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Aug. 14, 2023 - Knowledge Fight
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#838: August 11, 2023

Today, Dan and Jordan check in to see what Alex was up to at the end of last week.  In this installment, Alex warns that the Globalists want to make everyone allergic to meat, meanwhile Dan and Jordan pine for a world where people could change height at will.

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a
alex jones
17:53
d
dan friesen
44:16
j
jordan holmes
25:14
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Clips
p
pastor david manning
00:02
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andy in kansas
00:02
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
Need money.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
You're on the air.
unidentified
Thanks for holding.
andy in kansas
I love your word.
unidentified
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Not knowledgefight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
I have a quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, Steve?
dan friesen
My bright spot today is that your wife is getting back from Portugal today.
jordan holmes
What?
How did you steal my bright spot?
unidentified
No!
jordan holmes
Has that ever happened before?
dan friesen
Have you...
jordan holmes
I think you've done maybe Wimbledon one time where you tried to steal my bright spot.
dan friesen
No, I think I made fun of you once.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And this time, that's just sniping.
jordan holmes
No, I know.
I was delightful.
I didn't see it coming after all these years.
dan friesen
My bright spot, actually, is that last night, as we were recording this, we celebrated a very important...
Groundbreaking.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Probably world-changing event.
And that is the American Liberty Awards took place in Austin.
jordan holmes
Wait, what are the American Liberty Awards?
dan friesen
Who gives a shit?
jordan holmes
Okay, fair enough.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
Some weird off-brand-ass Emmys or Grammys or some shit that...
The InfoWars people put on.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
They had a red carpet and everything.
unidentified
Oh, no.
dan friesen
The stars were out.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out of here.
You are joking.
dan friesen
Nope.
Wish it was.
jordan holmes
They did an awards event?
dan friesen
Oh, yes, they did.
Rob Dew hosted?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Is the emcee?
jordan holmes
No, no.
dan friesen
And let me tell you, Billy Crystal, look out.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
You have a noon face to be afraid of.
jordan holmes
All right.
I'm serious.
We need to stop this.
This is some running out of the money to give to people for the bankruptcy trial.
I swear.
We're getting Brewster's millioned as we speak.
Oh, man.
dan friesen
It's weird because obviously you have a sense that probably there's some Infowars and Alex money that should be going elsewhere that's going into this.
But I didn't watch the whole thing.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I don't think Alex was there.
Either that or he passed out drunk really early.
jordan holmes
That's also a possibility.
dan friesen
Because his book won for best informative book or something like that.
And I don't think he was there to accept the award.
What's up?
unidentified
He put on an award show and his own book won the main award.
Yeah.
dan friesen
And in the category of most trusted news outlet.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
Here's what was funny.
It was most trusted print outlet.
And, like, none of these were print outlets.
They're all, like, blogs.
jordan holmes
What is happening?
dan friesen
But they were, like...
Infowars was one.
jordan holmes
Print?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
They still do print?
dan friesen
Summit.news, which Alex owns.
jordan holmes
By name, that sounds like a print magazine.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
And Natural News was one of the things.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Mike Adams.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And then National File, which Alex also is in charge of.
jordan holmes
So this is more essentially like when I was working for the hearing aid cartels.
This was the business awards.
Like you would have the...
Year-end conference and they'd be like, bestseller for this year goes to...
This is that.
It's 100% that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Here's the plot twist.
There were like five nominees for best print outlet.
And like almost all of them were basically just Alex's tendrils.
Right.
Gateway Pundit won.
unidentified
Who's voting?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Who chooses this shit?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Is it audience vote?
Is it like the All-Star game?
dan friesen
Yeah, it's instant vote.
Like everyone has a little clicker in their seat.
jordan holmes
Like the early days of American Idol.
dan friesen
Oh my god.
Also, a couple of rap performances by some MAGA rappers.
There's that guy with the face tattoos and such, and he did a little set.
And let me say...
While he was performing, there were not a bunch of slurs being posted on the Rumble feed in the comment section.
jordan holmes
That's unsurprising.
dan friesen
There were definitely, people were real chill about cultural...
jordan holmes
Yeah, I bet that was great.
I bet that was great.
dan friesen
Upsetting.
But anyway, I look forward to next year.
Oh, there's also someone who did a stand-up set.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, was this the first annual?
American Liberty Awards?
dan friesen
I believe so.
jordan holmes
I would imagine so.
dan friesen
It's tough for me to keep track.
You know, like, what year are we on with the Oscars?
Right, right, right, right.
Yeah, there's also someone who did a stand-up set in the middle, and I was like, hell gig.
This is no good.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
She seemed to be having a good time.
jordan holmes
Oh, good for her.
dan friesen
I might not be serious.
Ah, what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My wife is coming home from Portugal!
dan friesen
That's so exciting.
jordan holmes
Yay!
Yes.
She's coming back, picking her up, etc., etc.
I miss her.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It was great.
You know, it was a good couple of weeks.
dan friesen
Good bachelor time?
jordan holmes
No, it was more, I would prefer...
dan friesen
To get up to no good?
jordan holmes
I would prefer if I had just been put in a closet and turned off for a couple of weeks.
Right.
dan friesen
That would be tough for me in terms of our show, but I understand what you're saying.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, that's why obviously I couldn't.
dan friesen
Right, right.
This is why instead you had to rearrange the furniture in your living room.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Yep.
I did plenty of cleaning.
I rearranged the entire living room.
Yeah!
Yeah, I kept myself a little busy.
True.
Yeah, but now she's back, so it's going to be great.
dan friesen
And I'm sure tons of fun stories of art being made.
jordan holmes
She sent me this kind of like, she's made like 15 plus things, and she's very good.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
She's very good.
dan friesen
That's exciting.
jordan holmes
She made a huge mistake, though.
dan friesen
What's that?
jordan holmes
She goes back to work tomorrow.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That turnaround is too fast.
jordan holmes
Not great.
Not great.
Nope.
dan friesen
You're flying back from Portugal today and then going to work tomorrow.
That's oof.
A lot of coffee.
jordan holmes
Roughly six hour time difference going back in time.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a good oof.
jordan holmes
Yeah, not a good idea.
Not a good idea.
But what else are you going to do?
What, are you going to not go?
dan friesen
I guess take a day.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Maybe a day or two after you get back?
jordan holmes
I think you can take a day sometimes even when you're at work, if you know what I'm saying.
dan friesen
Hey, maybe that's the plan.
So, Jordan, today our plan is to go over an episode of Alex's show from the present day.
We're going to be talking about August 11th, 2023.
jordan holmes
All right, so this is pre-American Liberty Awards.
dan friesen
I mean, look, our next episode is definitely going to be about the fallout.
jordan holmes
I mean, obviously.
dan friesen
Well, here's another thing, too.
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
I really was thinking, like, we could do an episode about the American Liberty Awards, and no, we can't.
It's not going to work.
But the fallout of it.
The snubs.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Who's going to...
Who was wearing what?
We don't know.
dan friesen
Right.
Oh, there were a couple people who looked like real, real idiots.
But, like, Harrison Smith might be pissed that he didn't get any awards.
Owen Schroer got some awards.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Makes sense to me.
jordan holmes
Harrison couldn't get one?
I don't think so.
dan friesen
He did present something.
jordan holmes
It does feel like he should be pretty fine with it, though, because he doesn't want any sort of participation award.
dan friesen
True, true.
jordan holmes
He would rather have nothing than some sort of, like, thank you for being here.
dan friesen
Man, everybody else loved those participation awards.
jordan holmes
I bet they did.
dan friesen
Peter McCullough.
Anti-vax doctor won a number of awards as well.
He was there.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
Fine.
dan friesen
Anyway, unfortunately, no discussion of the awards.
But I'm sure we'll see it soon.
But before we get to this today, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, the concept of mistakenly calling your third grade teacher mom.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, hey Mel, get him.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, the Masked Nerd.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
alex jones
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, as you were watching the Super Bowl, enjoying time with friends and family, I studied the brown bass muzzle-loading smithbore musket.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And Satanic Cult Society of Rockwall, Texas.
Thank you so much.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
I'm in charge of pressing the button.
jordan holmes
Somehow, you can't call me on this one.
dan friesen
That was all me.
And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
So thank you so much to Kevin M., world's sexiest logistician.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
I had to take a couple of double takes.
Right.
Logistician.
jordan holmes
Logician is the logic person.
dan friesen
And logistics.
jordan holmes
So, logistician is travel agent of some sort.
dan friesen
Maybe, or just logistics.
jordan holmes
Right.
Well, I mean, logistics is travel.
dan friesen
Not always.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's fair.
dan friesen
Well, I guess it is.
jordan holmes
The portion, the pointation of things from one...
unidentified
It's not always humans travel.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But yes, that is...
I just Googled it, and apparently that is the case.
unidentified
Nice!
jordan holmes
Good work, English root words.
dan friesen
And simple Googling.
So, yeah, today we are on the 11th, and there is a big-ass news story that's covering most of our time today, and it is bananas.
It's actually not bananas.
It's meat.
You will only be able to eat bananas, metaphorically.
But look, I don't want to tease this.
jordan holmes
I mean, clearly.
dan friesen
I'm like Alex.
I don't want to tease this, but if I don't, No one's going to pay attention.
Right.
I'm in a bind.
jordan holmes
You are.
alex jones
Now, there's a paradox here.
And it's important to describe how I came to this conclusion because I found that if you just give people a piece of incredible news and just put it out there, it gets lost like a fart in the wind, to use the common vernacular.
jordan holmes
Haven't we heard this speech before?
alex jones
But this happens to me a lot where I get a splinter in my brain.
And I have a thought in my mind, and I get very frustrated that I cannot remember a piece of information that is the key or beyond critical to understanding the enemy takeover.
And so, what I'm going to do is, at the start of the next segment, I'm going to cover this.
Now, if I really wanted to have a big effect, I'd hype this for two weeks.
I'd have a special Saturday show or something, commercial-free, and 5 million people would tune in, and it would break out, and General Flynn would talk about it, and Tucker Carlson would talk about it.
And maybe I should just do that.
Because, you know, smart news people know how to sit on something, hype it up, and release it so it has a bigger effect.
It's like if you throw a beach ball on top of a pool, it just floats around and blows around.
But if you hold it down on the deep end, it explodes out.
But it takes energy to push the beach ball to the bottom of the pool and then let it go.
My daughter loves that.
My six-year-old daughter, I'll take a beach ball, take it to the bottom of the pool.
Our pool's five feet deep, but the bottom, and then she watches it shoot out.
I'm not even sure I can take it down ten feet.
dan friesen
Unnecessary diversion.
jordan holmes
I want to start charging by the word.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, for me, in terms of listening to this shit, that would be real nice.
jordan holmes
Hourly is just unacceptable at this point.
dan friesen
Yeah, so we got this piece of news that's gonna be hyped up.
Right.
You know, experienced news people, they know how to do this.
They know how to sit on news until it explodes like a beach ball.
jordan holmes
Don't we just call these people assholes?
Like, aren't all those reporters from the Trump White House era who kept all of their coolest and best stories so they could publish a book eight months after that information would have been actually useful to people?
Don't we just call those people assholes?
dan friesen
I think so.
People who take things that matter and make that subordinate to sensationalism and attention gathering.
jordan holmes
This will be good for me.
dan friesen
I think that's asshole-ish behavior, for sure.
And that's kind of why Alex is doing this, like you very astutely pointed out this speech that we've heard a million fucking times on his show, which just tells you that he's going to get to it, and he just wishes people would pay more attention to the stuff that he says.
jordan holmes
I'm feeling sad today, and I want everybody to know that they hurt my feelings.
Yes.
dan friesen
And so Alex does get to it, and it is, of course, the COVID narrative of the day.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
We got a real silly one.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I started talking a few weeks ago about vaccines and meat allergies because I saw them in the news saying it was because of ticks when it's not.
It's happening in countries that don't have the tick.
And it's exploding and the tick's been around forever.
And then so I went back over their discussions about how the vaccines on the FDA's own website can trigger you to get This alpha-gal syndrome that's a big deal for so many reasons.
Not just you individually getting sick when you eat meat, but what it then does to the economy wants beef production craters because no one can eat it.
Just like this happened with wheat or gluten, which, again, we know what did it.
It's not an intolerance.
It's the roundup on the damn wheat.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
So do you get the conspiracy?
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So the globalists want you to be allergic to beef and meat.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
Yep.
And they're doing that through the COVID vaccine.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Yep, yep, yep.
jordan holmes
Alpha Gal.
alex jones
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
I mean, I would follow that superhero pretty closely.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's the next Marvel property that's getting a Disney Plus show.
jordan holmes
I genuinely can't get it out of my head.
Like, I would watch Alpha Gal for sure.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this is all nonsense.
Alex is just kind of swinging around in the dark.
I guess his claim is that COVID vaccines are going to give people alpha-gal syndrome at such a rate that everyone will be allergic to meat to the point where the entire life Which...
Kind of, I mean, like, they're just trying to kill us, right?
I mean, like, they want to kill us to give a sacrifice to the planet Saturn, right?
Why do you need to do all this nonsense?
jordan holmes
Okay, listen, sometimes if you're watching a movie and the supervillain's plan is too dumb, you're like, we can just stop this movie now, can't we?
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a movie.
jordan holmes
Like the Avengers, you know?
dan friesen
The weather machine one.
jordan holmes
The weather machine one, where you're like, we can just stop now.
Yeah.
unidentified
We don't need to keep going.
jordan holmes
Aha!
I'm going to make everybody allergic to meat.
Just be like, fine, man.
Get out of here.
You have fun with that.
Maybe it'll work!
dan friesen
Alex.
Does this mean you're desperate?
jordan holmes
Absolutely!
dan friesen
Because that's all I'm hearing.
jordan holmes
That is weak tea.
dan friesen
So alpha-gal is a sugar molecule that's in every mammal except apes and humans.
Thus, it's something that we take in whenever we eat beef or drink milk.
It isn't present in chicken or fish, so those sectors should be totally safe from Alex's nightmare sci-fi plotline.
There are people who are allergic to this sugar, and that condition is called alpha-gal syndrome.
Reactions based on this allergy...
It's all allergies.
If you were a person with AGS, receiving this vaccine could prompt an allergic reaction because of the alpha-gal that's in the coating or additive, but it's not giving you a new allergy.
jordan holmes
It's not a warning saying that if you take the vaccine, you may get this allergy.
It is a warning saying that this allergy may be triggered.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yes, gotcha.
dan friesen
You can find the full list of ingredients for the Pfizer and Moderna shots, and neither of them contain alpha-gal.
So there's other vaccines.
Maybe AstraZeneca, maybe Johnson& Johnson.
So Alex's whole mRNA storyline, again, it's incompatible with the fear that he's trying to stoke here.
jordan holmes
Which, like...
Like Pfizer putting every single ingredient on there will not matter to the people who don't care.
These simply cannot work together.
I mean, physically, in the universe we inhabit, these two things cannot both be true.
Eh, you're just lying to me.
dan friesen
But also, you know what's fun about it is there's that impossibility.
But then also, let's say there was a ton of Alpha Gal in the Moderna shot.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
It's still not going to make you allergic to it.
Any more than, like, eating a ton of beef will.
jordan holmes
I mean, I imagine that would be the question that we'd have to then find out.
How much alpha-gal does it take to make you allergic to alpha-gal?
dan friesen
Let me take a step back.
Because I just realized the way that Alex would get around that and make that...
Dumb storyline work.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Which is that alpha gal that's in the Moderna shot in this hypothetical situation is there because the shot is creating an immune response in your body, so it's meant to train your body to have an autoimmune response to the alpha gal, which would make you allergic.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
That's the way that he would get around it if he were trying to make that work.
But it's not there in the Pfizer or Moderna shot, so...
I don't know what's going on here.
jordan holmes
That seems like a really good graduate student being like, okay, maybe here's what we can do.
We can try and put these two things together.
And then an actual professor being like, that's not how it works, dude.
It's just not how it works.
dan friesen
Well, see, I'm in his head in as much as I can come up with bad rationale.
He would probably come up if he encountered a hurdle.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
That's kind of...
And I don't like that I can do that.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
You're like a Sherpa.
You can get up a lot of mountains.
dan friesen
So Alex has this memory, but there was that brain sliver, right?
jordan holmes
Right.
Right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Right.
Splinter.
dan friesen
He's figured out the brain splinter.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
But I was walking through the studio yesterday at like 5.30 and Owen was on and I was getting a glass of water in the break room and I looked up and saw Owen covering this and it was like I was slapped upside the head.
jordan holmes
By Alpha Gal!
alex jones
Because I knew this.
We wrote about this two years ago.
It's in other documents.
unidentified
And...
alex jones
Here I am warning you that they're engineering vaccines to make you allergic to meat, and I'd forgotten the WEF admitted it, and that they're admittedly doing it, bioengineering humans, which I've been saying the last few weeks they're bioengineering us, but I'm like, why do I know they're doing that?
I can see the programming, the preparation, the explosions, and the meat allergies, and then, son of a bitch.
It's not just him.
I found a bunch of professors saying we're going to give you meat allergies through shots, through vaccines.
jordan holmes
Are they prestigious?
alex jones
God, these people never stop.
dan friesen
They never stop.
Too prestigious to stop.
It's that Hammer song.
jordan holmes
Too prestigious to quit.
dan friesen
Sorry, what's up?
jordan holmes
So the WEF is making people allergic to meat.
Hell yeah.
And this is in their purview?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
They do everything!
jordan holmes
I mean, I guess they, I mean, if you're also included in the make all people allergic to meat, you do do everything.
dan friesen
Yeah, Klaus Schwab has his hands in all sorts of pies.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So when Alex says it's not just him, on screen he's showing an InfoWars article about a WEF-connected bioethicist who wants to make everyone allergic to meat.
This is them poorly covering very short clips cut from a 2016 panel discussion at the World Science Festival.
The bioethicist in question is S. Matthew Lau, and he's answering a question about ways that the human genome could be altered to impact climate change.
One of the things he brings up is a hypothetical allergy to meat that could be spliced into DNA, which he doesn't know how it would be done, but based on the fact that the Lone Star tick can bite you and cause meat allergies, it's theoretically possible.
This would impact climate change because it would reduce people's meat consumption, but the thing he really spends way more time on is altering the genome to make people shorter.
He contends that we could make a giant dent in emissions if people were 15 centimeters shorter based on all kinds of variables like how much they would consume or how much less gas it would take to get around because of smaller people.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not a bad point.
dan friesen
And he's like, we were 15 centimeters shorter in the past.
jordan holmes
Like barely even that far in the past.
Like the reason Washington was president was because he was too tall for everybody to handle.
They couldn't deal with it.
Yeah, everybody else was small.
dan friesen
It's an interesting...
Oh, yeah.
Things that they're saying and be like, aha!
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
They are, like, you know, sort of, you know, playing devil's advocate or laying out something that then there will be an ethical discussion about, and you can be like, this is their plan.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Or whatever.
It's nonsense.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This talk is meant to be thought-provoking, but the way Alex is interacting with it is devoid of thought.
He saw Owen covering some little clip that he saw floating around on Telegram, and then Alex is like, I'm gonna fucking read it.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's just like anything where you have to define it in terms of its opposite.
You know, like, this is either ethical or unethical.
So in order to discuss what makes each of these what they are, I have to bring up the component elements of them.
And that means that sooner or later there's going to be a point where you go to, well, this reasonable thought is why we get to this unethical circumstance and so on, and then you're just a mess.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it gets even murkier when you get down into the areas of, hey, it's not just a duality between ethical and unethical.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Some things that are obligatory.
You know, what about that?
What about other categories of ethical status?
jordan holmes
Interesting.
dan friesen
It is unethical for you to not do this thing.
jordan holmes
I will tell you this.
It is ethical for me not to raise my children based upon independent maritime law.
Sure.
dan friesen
But it is obligatory that you make your children watch the American Liberty Awards.
jordan holmes
Well, obviously.
Otherwise, they'll never learn.
dan friesen
Right.
And they'll have terrible fashion sense.
jordan holmes
Terrible.
Oh, God damn.
Joan Rivers should have been around for that one.
That would have been her crowning.
That's the one she could have died on.
dan friesen
Oh, God.
Or just like...
An actually talented person on the red carpet just at all would have been fucking awesome.
jordan holmes
It would have been so crazy to see them try and handle it.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
So, Alex does a show, and he talks about it a little bit here.
alex jones
Now, most talk show hosts cover one article at a time on its face.
That's it.
Compartmentalized.
jordan holmes
Smart.
alex jones
Where we're different is we bring you in the backstory of what's currently happening in a projection.
jordan holmes
Dumb.
alex jones
But that was what was giving me a headache for two weeks.
I was like, there's something else.
I'm missing something.
So I've spent, no exaggeration, probably 15 hours the last two weeks researching this and didn't come back across our own research.
And it hit me like a ton of bricks.
Wow.
dan friesen
So most talk show hosts cover one story at a time because they're interested in covering the actual story they're talking about and they aren't too lazy to prepare.
Literally, the only way Alex can mask his absolute ignorance and obliviousness about the stories he's reporting on is by distracting the audience with a hundred different disconnected information points he's insisting are all part of this same story.
Alex couldn't cover one story because he can't stay on topic.
He can't stay on topic because he knows that if he does, his entire charade falls apart.
I've made this metaphor before, but he's like the Jesus lizard of bullshit.
He has to keep moving or else he'll sink.
He has to stay on top of the surface or else...
You know, people will be like, oh, you can't swim.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
You're not actually magic.
jordan holmes
You're an insane person.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Sorry, you looked like you had, like, an important thought.
jordan holmes
I did not have an important thought.
No.
dan friesen
I got scared.
Like, there was an intensity to the way you leaned forward.
jordan holmes
No, I was just trying to handle the fucking...
Easy.
dan friesen
It's grandiosity describing his...
Inability to do his job.
jordan holmes
Right.
I mean, it's not...
Because, you know, you think...
Throw spaghetti at the wall.
You know, something along those lines.
Or, like, it's a barrage.
You know, you try and throw so much at people that they can't fix, you know?
But there's something...
There's almost...
It's more like Alex throws an enveloping blanket of bullshit on top of you.
To the point where it's like...
Everywhere I look around me, it looks exactly the same.
It looks like I'm trapped in a snowstorm of bullshit and I can't escape.
It's amazing.
He's a wet blanket of lies.
dan friesen
This is another good metaphor.
So, I don't know what's going on with this next clip.
I should say that I wasn't able to get the audio of this episode.
I don't know what was going on.
Maybe there's some sort of an upload issue.
But the video was on band.video.
And so I took the video and then we're working from the audio of that.
It appears that Alex goes to commercial.
And he's...
I expected a commercial.
But instead what we find is kind of a pep talk.
I don't know what's going on.
Listen to this.
alex jones
Tell everybody you know, tune in now.
If you don't stand up for yourselves, you're going to be poisoned and killed.
I've been offered to join the enemy.
This is 100% real.
Now you see it in your face.
Are you going to betray your ancestors and roll over and be cowards?
Or are you going to wake up, take control of your life, and take control of this planet that God gave us the deed to?
Do it now.
Say a prayer.
Ask God to enter your soul and energize you in this animating contest of liberty.
unidentified
So...
Okay.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
Listen, I'm sure that this is not possible.
But if anybody can get Matt Barry to read that word for word, it will be the funniest thing that's ever happened.
dan friesen
I just realized what that was.
Alex on Infowars itself.
Doesn't have the rights to the bumper music.
GCN does.
jordan holmes
Oh.
dan friesen
So that would have been...
There would have been music playing over that on the radio.
jordan holmes
Right.
Wow.
So instead of...
dan friesen
It's nuts how different that sounds without the music behind it.
jordan holmes
That is...
Crazy.
That feels like we just put the fucking glasses on and they live, and underneath the music is that shit right there.
dan friesen
You really don't get the sort of cravenness and artificiality of the performance that he's doing with the, you have to talk to God.
When there's music playing under it, it's kind of like, ooh, there's a feeling here.
It's not.
It's just like, oh, this is false.
jordan holmes
That's creepy.
dan friesen
Wow.
Okay, well, we solved that mystery.
That wasn't a commercial.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
Don't ever make me do that again.
unidentified
I know.
dan friesen
We need the music.
So, humans.
jordan holmes
What about them?
dan friesen
They like meat.
jordan holmes
Keep them or lose them?
dan friesen
Depends on who you ask.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
It depends on the day, too.
dan friesen
True.
But we're designed to hype things.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Wait, we're designed by the Lord our God himself to hype things.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Okay, that was in his blueprints for humanity.
dan friesen
Yes.
Alex's understanding of the Judeo-Christian tradition is that the deity told the people to hype.
jordan holmes
What is your average hypeability score per...
dan friesen
It is within our nature.
We must hype.
jordan holmes
It's just who we are.
dan friesen
But also, Alex already...
Told the story of what he's talking about.
It's allergic to...
The WEF people admitted that they want to make us allergic to me.
jordan holmes
Maybe you're just tuning in.
dan friesen
But he's still trying to hype a little bit, trying to play that game that he likes to play.
Hey.
alex jones
I talked about this last segment, and I want you to listen very carefully to me.
unidentified
No.
alex jones
I don't like to hype things, but people are designed to hype.
So you grow up, they don't do it anymore, but you see at night.
Big searchlights.
And you either know it was a car dealership with a sale or it was a movie theater.
And I was little.
I'd say, Dad, I want to go see what that is.
And she'd go, okay, we'll drive and see what it is.
And it was a car dealership or an acrobat fare or a movie.
dan friesen
An acrobat fare.
jordan holmes
An acrobat fare.
alex jones
And I remember pulling up one time at the Town East Mall and they had spotlights out because the thing had just come out.
And I was like eight years old.
Great.
Movie put out by that amazing director.
jordan holmes
John Carpenter.
alex jones
John Carpenter with Kurt Russell.
My dad said, oh, it's a pretty scary movie, son.
I don't think we should see it.
And I said, please let me see it.
Please let me see it.
He said, all right.
We went in and got a hot dog and popcorn and a Slurpee and the movie scared the living hell out of me.
I had nightmares about it for a year.
Now one of my favorite movies.
And I later watched the 1950s ones with James Arness.
He wasn't just in Gunsmoke.
He played the thing in that movie.
He played the thing?
Where this alien crashes in the Antarctic and then it...
It's able to take over other creatures and mimic them.
dan friesen
Also, did I tell you that my daughter loves it when I hold down the beach ball in the pool?
jordan holmes
I mean, this is killing time.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
This is the murder.
We are watching the murder of time.
dan friesen
And I thought, like, okay, this is...
Real, real off track.
jordan holmes
Yeah, a little bit.
dan friesen
And it was, but there is kind of a way that he weaves it back.
The thing, you know, it like takes over bodies, goes inside and turns you into the thing.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And that's apparently what the COVID vaccine is doing.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And so, like, at least there is, like, some connective tissue that he eventually gets to.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Which, I mean, like, it doesn't justify how far off track he got.
Absolutely not.
But at the same time, it's like, well, it's better than usual.
At least there is something here that he's talking about.
But it is a load of shit.
jordan holmes
Do you know what I've realized?
dan friesen
What's that?
jordan holmes
And this is something that it only just...
I mean, because I'd never considered it like this in the past, but...
Perhaps the constant conflict that the human race has with other species of alien, you know, throughout all of our literature and such, comes from the fact that they were not designed to hype.
dan friesen
They could be.
jordan holmes
We are designed to hype, and they are aliens.
The main difference between us is our hypeability.
dan friesen
That is such a good point.
jordan holmes
Has any alien hyped?
dan friesen
No, because most of the time they show up and kidnap people in the dark and do tests on them.
jordan holmes
Zero hyping.
dan friesen
No hype.
jordan holmes
No, no hyping.
War of the Worlds.
Zero hype.
dan friesen
They're not like, we're coming.
jordan holmes
Uh-uh, no.
dan friesen
There's not like cryptic ads that you see on billboards.
jordan holmes
Independence Day didn't have any hype.
The only hype.
Not true.
From the aliens?
dan friesen
Yes.
One ship showed up first, didn't it?
Uh, sure.
Arguably hyping.
jordan holmes
Arguably.
I think it crashly.
I know that that alien was very hostile to the human beings who had captured it and kept it dead in a cave for 60 years.
dan friesen
Arguably.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Arguably.
dan friesen
In Independence Day, those ships show up above all the cities and they just hang out there for a while.
jordan holmes
That is arguably hype.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Except it's a plot point that they're coordinating their attack at the exact same time.
dan friesen
Well, you can multitask.
jordan holmes
That's true.
Yeah, you could have, I mean, considering how space is not such that you have to, like, move around, like, everybody could have come from all the same different direction at the simultaneously.
dan friesen
I will grant you that aliens typically aren't hyping.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think that's, I think so far that is the source of conflict, at the very least, throughout most of human history.
dan friesen
It could be.
I thought where you were going to go with that is that maybe there's a fundamental tension with aliens in that, like, A lot of the stories that we have terrify people as children.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Ooh, that's a good point.
dan friesen
And create bizarre relationships with the very idea of extraterrestrial life.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that everything comes back to a movie that scared Alex as a child.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's hard not to...
dan friesen
Oh, Alex was really, really terrified as a child by the thing.
And now his...
Big fear about the big bad guys is they're trying to inject you with things that turn you into something else.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Interesting.
It's bizarre.
jordan holmes
Have we considered...
dan friesen
Unprocessed trauma.
jordan holmes
...that our society may be reaping the rewards of its creepy and terrible attitudes that they've imposed upon children for the past 150-odd years?
dan friesen
Yeah, probably.
So, Alex struggles.
With the nature of man and his hyping.
What do men do when we hype?
jordan holmes
I hype therefore.
alex jones
So I've done this accidentally before where I do a bunch of research and I'm not ready and I talk about something for a week and I do a special show and it gets 5 million views, breaks out, has a huge effect, changes the world.
And I'm not good at that.
I do it by accident.
And the reason I'm doing this now is no one cares if I just came on the show and told you this.
Maybe 5% of you just want the straight facts and you're dialed in, you get what's going on.
The rest of you are kind of like me.
If something isn't hyped up with dancing girls and everything, you're just like, well, this must not be that important.
It's just mixed in with the Maui fires and the pedos everywhere and the open borders and all the rest of it.
But this is big because it's not just what they're doing to give us the deadly meat allergy where you eat a piece of steak and it's like a bumblebee bit you and you swell up and you can't breathe and people die in many cases.
They're going to do this with everything.
You don't think they authorized glyphosate on the wheat by accident.
No, they knew damn well what they were doing.
And on a scale of 1 to 10 of evil, that's about a 3. A meat allergy is about an 8. What?
What'll do to the economy?
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It's about the economy.
jordan holmes
It's about the economy.
dan friesen
Yeah, wheat and meat, bees are gonna bite you.
Terrifying.
jordan holmes
You know what's so funny about that?
We were just talking about movies that scar people as children and then he's like, the bee comes up and I'm like, my girl.
That's fucking Macaulay Culkin all over again, man.
dan friesen
I feel like Alex might have been a little too old to be traumatized by my girl.
jordan holmes
I'm talking about me.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
jordan holmes
I'm terrified of bees because of that.
I'm not terrified of bees, but I was for a long time.
dan friesen
I feel like I might have been writing about that sweet spot.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Of like, this is going to scar you.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think, yeah, I mean, actually, after, like, for quite a while after that, I had a real...
Disproportionate understanding of what bees do to you.
jordan holmes
I thought Macaulay Culkin was the actual regular result.
dan friesen
But if you're allergic, then it will have a very serious effect on you.
jordan holmes
It was just very jarring in the movie, where it's like, oh, all of a sudden Macaulay Culkin's dead.
dan friesen
You combine that, too, with when you're a kid, everything hurts more, kind of.
Like, getting stung by a bee when you're a kid is like, this is a day.
jordan holmes
Oh, it turned into a thing, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, but now, if you get stung by a bee, it's probably not that big a deal.
It's probably not great.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I wouldn't love it.
But anyway, they don't bite you.
jordan holmes
Yes, what did we get off track on?
Yes, they don't bite you.
dan friesen
It's so interesting the way that Alex does this thing where he's like, I'm hyping something, but you've already talked about it.
But I guess he's saying that the thing that he's hyping is it's not just...
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That they're injecting us with this vaccine that's not a vaccine that's going to kill us, but whoops on the way also make us allergic to meat for fun to destroy the economy that wouldn't be destroyed by everyone dying.
jordan holmes
Wouldn't more of us be allergic to meat by now?
dan friesen
Well, here's a fun fact.
There is a...
Some people believe, and there's some preliminary research that shows that this could be the case, that a lot more people than we think have a slight intolerance to beef.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But the reactions that you have could be incredibly mild.
unidentified
Sure!
dan friesen
In terms of what the intolerance does.
jordan holmes
Sometimes you have a bad shit!
dan friesen
It could be.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
But, you know, the difference between, you know, just having a bad burger and maybe being slightly intolerant to beef might be pretty similar.
Yeah.
unidentified
So it's not like, you know, there's a high prevalence.
dan friesen
of people who you eat a burger and you're going to die.
Yeah.
unidentified
You know, like having that kind of a severe reaction.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
But the numbers might be higher than we think.
dan friesen
Sure.
unidentified
Certainly the number of people who get this from like getting bitten by a Lone Star Tick are probably low.
dan friesen
But...
You know, it's not fully understood exactly what the dynamic is here.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I imagine there's plenty of people who are along the lines of, like, in my regular life, I just kind of avoid beef entirely, but sometimes I go out with my friends and there's a certain amount of, like, societal pressure to get it.
Or maybe I just want a burger that night, you know?
dan friesen
I eat beef socially.
jordan holmes
Socially.
Yeah, totally.
dan friesen
I'm a social beefer.
jordan holmes
I rarely ever eat beef, but sometimes socially.
And you don't even think, oh, I'm avoiding it because I'm physically avoiding it.
You're just like, eh, it's not my thing.
dan friesen
Right, and there's a lot of people who probably have a relationship, especially in the U.S., who have a relationship with beef that's like, most of the time when I have it, it's from someplace that might make me shit really bad anyway.
jordan holmes
Anyways, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So who knows?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Self-reporting isn't going to do good.
dan friesen
But real quick, also, I don't want to fully stand behind this conclusion that...
I think it was something in the territory of up to 30% of people have some version of intolerance to Alpha Gal.
But I don't want to say that...
This is concrete and solid.
It was just something that I read that's like, it could be more regular than we think.
But also, a lot of that conversation predates COVID itself and the vaccines.
So there isn't a relationship, really, that you can trace there.
But yeah, it's interesting.
jordan holmes
That is interesting.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Alex's version isn't, but real life is.
jordan holmes
Real life is very interesting, I find.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So...
We heard Alex say fart in the wind earlier.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And this is going to turn into a little bit of a trend.
Saying fart a bunch.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Now they're talking about reducing rice production.
This is crony in water.
In swamp.
And swamp creates bacteria passing gas.
Bacteria go to the bathroom too.
Their digestive system is the same.
They've got a little chamber that dissolves it.
unidentified
Is it the same?
alex jones
They push their poop out with methane.
Bacteria fart.
Just like cows and just like us and just like every other thing on this planet.
Except, I guess, jellyfish don't pass gas.
Sharks do it.
Whales do it.
If the Easter Bunny was real, it does it.
It's not.
If Santa Claus was real, he farts.
And I'm not trying to make a joke about this.
They've now, pull it up, listed methane.
There are swamps everywhere.
Methane creates the atmosphere.
It holds in the heat.
It's good.
That they want to ban rice all over the world or restrict it because it's grown in water.
And because evil bacteria are living in the swamp water and passing gas.
jordan holmes
Sounds right to me.
alex jones
Think that's a big deal?
Half the world gets the majority of their nutrition from rice.
You even reduce it, it costs mass famine, unrest, and death.
dan friesen
So there are a lot of methane emissions associated with rice production, but it's a super important crop.
So generally, the suggestions people have are less about reducing production and more about how to do it better.
The methane isn't just from bacteria farting, and there have been a ton of innovations in various polluting aspects of rice production.
Like, traditionally, people would burn a lot of the...
Unused parts after harvesting.
And there have been a number of innovations.
New applications for that left-behind product.
And then there's one thing that's really exciting, and it was there's some indications that adding cable bacteria, which is a naturally electrical bacteria, and it likes the roots of water-based plants, if you add that to a rice field, it can cut methane emissions by as much as 93%.
Holy shit!
Yeah, so in terms of...
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
Well, it's...
It's hard to tell if it's at scale, if it's something that you could operate at scale, but again, some early indications are showing incredible promise with cable bacteria.
jordan holmes
That's crazy!
dan friesen
Right, and so there's a lot of things that...
jordan holmes
Alright, now make it glow in the dark.
dan friesen
That's next.
Ah, come on.
Actually, you just look at the rice fields and see...
jordan holmes
Yeah, is that right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Nice little lightning bug rice.
dan friesen
I like that.
So yeah, this is kind of what serious people are looking at.
Right.
These sorts of things as opposed to like, nah, shut it down.
jordan holmes
Burn it all.
dan friesen
Take it out.
Alex's version of this is like, the globalists want to...
Shut off rice to be mean.
jordan holmes
There is an aspect of childlike behavior in everything Alex describes as just like a, oh, well, if it can't have it, then it's all gone.
Bye.
dan friesen
I'm going to make you allergic to beef.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's very pathetic.
dan friesen
So I thought that Alex was just lying about and talking about...
There have been a number of articles about rice recently because India put an export ban on non-Basmati white rice in order to try to help with internal...
Food scarcity and rising prices.
And there was a real concern that this could set off a chain reaction of other rice exporting countries and them hoarding their supply of rice and what that could do for especially lesser developed countries.
Could be a lot of trouble.
jordan holmes
International economics are very complicated.
dan friesen
Even when it's just talking about one commodity.
But so I thought that this is what Alex was going off of and just misrepresenting.
But it turns out it's not.
And so we get the actual article.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
So.
jordan holmes
So.
alex jones
Did you hear me last segment?
jordan holmes
Ew.
alex jones
Type in.
jordan holmes
Don't talk like that.
alex jones
World rice production must be cut for the environment.
Rice bad for the environment.
More than half the world gets more than half their nutrition from rice.
It's like if you have a fish tank and you turn the...
Oxygen off.
You turn the little bubbler off and the fish are dead in two days.
You turn that off or you go out of town, the power goes off, the pump doesn't turn back on and your favorite fish are all floating dead.
And you guys are putting up the India ban on export because they've had lack of production.
That's not the story.
The story is rice is bad for the earth.
WEF calls for cuts in rice production because it causes greenhouse gases.
And there's all the headlines about banned farming, farming bad for the earth, the Netherlands, India, everywhere.
It's literally everywhere saying we want to shut down farms.
I've got CNN headlines.
There it is, World Economic Forum.
This is how rice is hurting the planet.
dan friesen
So it turns out that this is a 2019 blog post on the WEF website that explores the environmental aspects of an impact of rice production.
The article itself is fairly narrow in its scope, just discussing a single variable of rice production, the amount of water used to flood the paddies.
The writer was talking about how it's a tough balancing act where if you have a high amount of water, it encourages these microbes that produce methane to multiply higher.
However, if you have a lower level of water, it's possible that, quote, increased levels of oxygen in the soil react with the nitrogen present to produce nitrous oxide, which is also bad.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
And then there's the drought factor, which impacts the water levels used to grow rice.
In the event of a drought, farmers who are used to using higher levels of water might have a difficult time adjusting to this new reality.
This isn't about decreasing rice production because it's polluting.
It's an explanation of one facet of rice production that creates pollution and why it's a challenging problem to solve.
It's also four years old and it predates a lot of the articles you can find about these promising signs about new innovations in rice cultivation and the cable bacteria stuff.
Yeah, yeah, it's...
He also sounds ill.
jordan holmes
I hate...
Yeah, he doesn't sound great.
I hate whenever you apply drama to things that could really use no drama.
You know, like, this is one of those things that could use zero drama.
Like, okay, Rice, there are some drawbacks, and the entire world is relying upon it in some facet or another.
So this is a huge problem.
dan friesen
Yeah, the title is not doing anyone any favors.
jordan holmes
Next step.
We just gotta start doing stuff.
That's what's gotta happen.
Because this problem is too big.
And if anybody makes it dramatic, you could wind up making every part of it so hugely dramatic!
And you'll never deal with it, you know?
dan friesen
No, no.
jordan holmes
It's so big!
dan friesen
You'll end up creating new problems for yourself to have to solve.
unidentified
Totally!
dan friesen
Like people like Alex having these complete misunderstandings of the actual problems.
Yeah, I blame the writer, whoever titled the article, this is how rice is hurting the environment.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Because it's just, it's a pointless title for the purposes of what the article actually is.
jordan holmes
I'm telling you, we gotta go back to the, we gotta go back to that old 1800s style of headline writing.
It's gotta be the, it's gotta be, your headline is the first entire two paragraphs.
dan friesen
That, that could work.
jordan holmes
It's just how it's gotta be.
Because we clearly can't handle good dramatic headlines.
That just cannot be done in the world we live in.
You cannot make dramatic headlines.
Otherwise, we're gonna die.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, I don't think...
I mean, the alternative is, like, humans deciding we don't like clickbait.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And I don't think that's gonna happen.
jordan holmes
That's not gonna happen.
No.
dan friesen
Oh, well.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
So, Alex gets back to this WEF bioethicist.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
This guy, Matthew Lau.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he has a few details wrong about this narrative.
alex jones
They're telling you you'll eat bugs, you'll love it, you're not going to eat meat anymore, you laugh at them and say, I'm not going to stop, and they go, the hell you're not.
We're going to give you a shot that doesn't just give you myocarditis and heart attacks and strokes and blood clots, but to where you have violent meat allergies.
And then I'm researching this and talking about it.
I'm going, why am I obsessed with this?
I see him in the news pre-programming the Nobel B meat soon because of this tick.
Countries that don't have the tick are saying that they have the same thing.
They don't even have a reason why.
They're saying COVID creates a meat allergy, all this BS.
And then I remember, wait a minute, the WEF came out two years ago and said we need to engineer people, and he wrote papers on it, through injections to give you a meat allergy so you can't eat meat.
How much more of a confession do you need?
dan friesen
This guy...
unidentified
I need more.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm gonna need a little bit more than that.
dan friesen
Quite a bit.
So this guy that Alex was talking about, Matthew Lau, didn't say that stuff.
He's not talking about injecting vaccines or anything.
Also, this wasn't two years ago that the WF came out and said this stuff.
It was a 2016 panel, but Alex doesn't know this, which we later realize is because...
There was an InfoWars article from two years ago about this that Alex thinks is current, but it's actually years late.
It's five years past.
jordan holmes
That's two levels of irrelevant.
dan friesen
It's old and it's a lie.
jordan holmes
And it's based on even older things.
dan friesen
True.
Like this guy's paper, which Alex ends up getting into a little bit.
alex jones
So there's an article.
A few days ago, that I guess I'd missed on Infowars, that we republished, WEF-linked bioethicists, that's the ethics of medicine, called for genetically modifying humans to induce meat intolerance.
Now let's look at his report.
Here it is.
Human engineering and the climate change.
Oh, it's to save the Earth.
Forthcoming as a target article in ethics, policy, and the environment.
S. Matthew Lau, L-I-A-O, New York University, Anders Sandsburg, Oxford, and Rebecca Roach, Oxford.
February 2nd, 2012.
But he made the announcement two years ago.
dan friesen
He didn't make any announcement of an evil plot two years ago, but Alex thinks that because InfoWars covered it two years ago.
And again, the video is from a 2016 panel.
And this paper is from 2012, and as Alex read, it's a Target article.
This is the kind of article that's published, and it's meant to spur on further lines of research, as opposed to being new research in and of itself.
This is an ethics journal, so it's an exploration of this subject, and it literally says on page 5, quote, To be clear, we shall not argue that human engineering ought to be adopted.
alex jones
Ta-da!
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
To be fair, the paper does discuss the possibility of introducing meat intolerance in people.
However, the suggestions that it includes are not very high-tech.
The first is, quote, eating red meat with added emetic, a substance that induces vomiting, could be used as an aversion conditioning.
This is accepted as not very plausible to work long term, so the next suggestion is having people wear, quote, meat patches, akin to nicotine patches.
It's unclear about how the mechanics of this would work, and if the patch would make you allergic to meat or satisfy your craving for meat.
I'd have no idea, but either way, it doesn't fit Alex's conspiracy, and it doesn't fit with what Lau was saying in 2016, because by that point, science had evolved, and there were new ethical questions to consider.
And so it's kind of...
jordan holmes
It's moving pretty quick, dude.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's out of date.
jordan holmes
I wonder how long it's going to take before we get to the opening of one of these ethical papers that's like, hey, listen.
dan friesen
Cut it out.
jordan holmes
Fuck it.
Let's do it.
Let's just start.
dan friesen
Hey, Alex, I know you're not reading this.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Quit it.
Stop it.
dan friesen
So here's a paragraph from the paper that I wish Alex would talk about instead of this dumb vaccine meat allergy stuff.
This is wild.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Quote, human engineering could be liberty enhancing when used alongside behavioral and market solutions.
For example.
Given a certain fixed allocation per family of greenhouse gas emissions, each family may only be permitted to have two children, as Gibault and Hayes have proposed.
However, if we were to scale the size of human beings, then given the same fixed allocation of greenhouse gas emissions, some families may be able to have more than two children.
Human engineering could therefore give people the choice between having a greater number of smaller children or a smaller number of larger children.
jordan holmes
Alright, buddy.
You have yourself a fun day.
dan friesen
This dude really wants to shrink people.
jordan holmes
I think that's great.
I am totally fine with shrinking people.
It makes sense.
dan friesen
Seems like for years he's been just trying to shoehorn that in.
jordan holmes
I'm telling you, you know what?
We went and looked at my wife and I. We went and saw this open house and we went to see this house.
I'm too tall for this house.
Way too tall.
The things are narrow.
Imagine if I were 15 centimeters shorter.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Fewer greenhouse gases.
I could live there.
These are all possibilities.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Imagine if I were half my size and I could ride Celine around like a mount.
jordan holmes
We should have...
Varying sizes of people.
I think somebody should be...
We should have a group of people who can fit inside of your pocket, or a purse.
I think we should have people purses.
dan friesen
We do have varying sizes of people, but let's say you want further spectrum of sizes of people.
Like Meet Dave.
Keep coming back to Meet Dave.
Why not?
That would be interesting.
I mean, you know, you have a Gulliver's Travels-ass kind of thing here.
jordan holmes
I mean, there is a little bit of, like...
dan friesen
And then also, like, Mario.
Right.
Because you had the big world.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
Oh, man.
Oh, and we could segregate everybody by region and height so you could travel from...
dan friesen
It's really the only way to be safe.
jordan holmes
It's the only way to do it.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And then, oh, man, and then eventually people won't know the others exist.
Oh, it'll be great.
dan friesen
Right.
And then we could turn, like, animals that are tiny into huge animals.
You could take, like, a little frog and make it huge.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep.
I think we're just basically remaking the world into giant cats and tiny people world.
dan friesen
I think we're just sitting around, thinking about ways things could be bigger or smaller.
But again, I wish Alex would talk about that instead of this dumb meat shit.
jordan holmes
I know, that's so interesting and hilarious.
dan friesen
And where would his mind go with it?
jordan holmes
It's so great.
dan friesen
Now what the globalists are trying to do is shrink themselves down so they can fit through keyholes.
jordan holmes
What does that even mean?
dan friesen
If you could turn yourself tiny like Ant-Man, it's like a master key to every door in the world.
jordan holmes
You see that?
Somehow this is an even more silly supervillain plan than just make everybody allergic to meat.
But I'm more willing to entertain this one because it's fun.
dan friesen
Klaus Schaub wants to make himself tiny so he can enter into your nose and go into your stomach and then turn big again to kill everybody one by one.
jordan holmes
So hold on.
Now we're adding in the possibility that the injections will shrink people by a certain amount.
dan friesen
I mean, once Alex gets his hands on something, everything's...
Spirals.
jordan holmes
Right.
So that means that we obviously have injections that will increase your size naturally.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Okay, but how do we know how much each is going to do?
unidentified
Hmm.
jordan holmes
Like, are we going to use...
dan friesen
You gotta roll those bones, man.
You gotta just take a risk.
jordan holmes
Are we going to use comically small shots and comically large shots?
dan friesen
I see no other way around it.
I think you have to.
jordan holmes
Blood will make you small.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
No, but it would have to be reversed, right?
Never mind.
jordan holmes
No, because that would lead into a number of hilarious mix-ups where you're using the small one to make people small.
dan friesen
No, because you would need the giant one to make people smaller in case the giant person wanted to get small again.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's also a good point.
dan friesen
But you wouldn't want the small one to be...
jordan holmes
No, you would have to have a small one and a large one for every possible size.
So, if you're a giant, you'd have to have a small one and a giant one relative to your size.
dan friesen
Now, here's the great news about this.
jordan holmes
What's this?
dan friesen
Think about all the syringes.
jordan holmes
See, this is a free market solution to the unemployment issue.
dan friesen
And we need to get in early so America made.
It can all be American made.
jordan holmes
Well, there's no way that...
Once somebody gets, you can make giant or small people syrup.
I mean, it's all over for the rest of us.
dan friesen
Well, not if we get big.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, that's the question.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
Where were we?
dan friesen
Meat.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right.
dan friesen
So Alex has another fantasy about this lab-grown meat.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I'm just going to let this play because it's a little bit lengthy and it's dumb.
alex jones
World Economic Forum included Lau's proposals in the Great Reset discussion to shift human diet away from beef to mostly bugs and synthetic meat.
Now wait for this.
It gets ten times worse.
jordan holmes
Wait for it.
alex jones
Where do you think Bill Gates' company patented grows its meat?
What kind of meat grows?
You cut out a piece of my bicep and you put it in a Petri dish, it doesn't grow.
Use your head, folks.
What type of meat, if you cut it out and put it in a Petri dish with cuter, with protein and sugar, a base to grow life forms, what type of cell?
Riddle me this, Batman.
What type of cell grows outside of a blood supply?
jordan holmes
The thing.
alex jones
Cancer.
jordan holmes
Oh, what?
alex jones
But not just any old cancer.
Most cancer needs a blood supply.
It'll just grow faster than regular cells.
Outside of its genetically designed order.
No, ladies and gentlemen, super cancer.
Immortal cell lines.
That never die.
Super cancer.
And you can take a chunk of an immortal cell line.
They only admit two people they found with them.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
That's not how that works.
alex jones
That's not how that works.
Pull up the first immortal cell line for people.
jordan holmes
Don't.
alex jones
And then a little boy in the 1970s that was aborted at nine months.
A little white boy.
And almost all the biotech, everything you have, is grown off them.
They have reportedly grown hundreds of millions of pounds of her meat.
And they can take a big chunk of it, a T-bone-sized steak, and throw it into a vat, and come back in a month, and there's a giant, huge vat full of her meat.
jordan holmes
I forget her name.
alex jones
It was a black lady, Henrietta.
Yeah, there it is.
Henrietta Lacks.
Henrietta Lacks.
Show, if you take growth hormone, it was grown on Henrietta Lacks.
They just take human growth hormone and put it in there and it grows it.
jordan holmes
Amazing.
alex jones
Almost all the genetic treatments, Henrietta Lacks.
Factories all over the world, ladies and gentlemen, with her cancer.
And what does Bill Gates do?
His new synthetic meat has patented Henrietta Lacks' tumor.
So you're actually eating your cannibal.
dan friesen
Whoa!
So, Alex doesn't understand immortalized cell lines, stem cells.
We've talked about this in the past.
But the technology is one of the ways that synthetic meats might be possible to be made.
But it doesn't come from Henrietta Lacks.
It comes from a biopsy of a cow.
Just this May, researchers at Tufts University Center for Cellular Agriculture published a paper on the process that they discovered to produce immortalized bovine muscle stem cells, which would be a huge breakthrough for that market.
Because prior to that, you'd have...
You know, the stem cells that would only last so long in terms of replicating.
But the fact that they say that they've found a way to have immortalized and create immortalized bovine stem cells is pretty exciting.
jordan holmes
That's a big deal, yeah.
dan friesen
But even before, they weren't using people.
jordan holmes
If it were possible for you to grab a bunch of meat...
Throw it into a vat.
alex jones
Right.
jordan holmes
And then the next day have a bunch more meat.
alex jones
Ta-da!
jordan holmes
We would have solved so many problems.
dan friesen
But it's people.
jordan holmes
I mean, they would have at least tried to get away with it for a while, right?
dan friesen
It's Soylent Green.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, they would have given it a shot.
dan friesen
It's all movies, baby.
jordan holmes
Here's what you would have done.
Here's what I would do if I could only do this with people meat, right?
One, it would unequivocally solve world hunger at a cost that's basically zero.
dan friesen
Well, spiritual cost.
jordan holmes
It's not people.
It's not people.
It's cells that turn into...
dan friesen
I'm going to stipulate for the purpose of this conversation that there isn't any adverse reaction that humans have to eating human meat.
It's not human meat?
jordan holmes
It's grown from a cell?
dan friesen
Right, but it could still have some remnant of the humanness.
jordan holmes
Right, and you want to make people...
dan friesen
I'm just stipulating that there's no biological or medical issue with it.
jordan holmes
There's no soul, okay?
So, let me throw this out at you, okay?
Here's how you get people comfortable with it.
You call it Soylent Green.
You ironically name it Soylent Green.
dan friesen
Well, that's what the meal replacement people did, the Soylent.
jordan holmes
But that's not made of people.
dan friesen
You don't know that.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
If it is made of people...
Well done on you.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I'd be very proud of you.
It's my idea, and you came up with it first.
Good for you.
dan friesen
It's just cancer in a blender.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Alright, so this is stupid.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Anyway, would you...
Oh, here's a great question.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
If you had to eat, or could eat, a celebrity, who would it be?
jordan holmes
Wait.
Four, am I talking survival, or am I talking enjoyment?
dan friesen
I'm thinking like a meat plate.
jordan holmes
Like a charcuterie?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I got some cheeses, I got some fruit, and then I've got some...
dan friesen
Celebrity meat.
jordan holmes
If we're doing it that way, I'm going to throw you for a loop here.
I'm going to go with Willem Dafoe jerky.
I think that would be the way to go.
dan friesen
Is that because he allegedly has a confusingly large penis?
jordan holmes
A confoundingly loved one.
dan friesen
It's an interesting choice.
I don't think I can top it.
alex jones
So they grow these big vats of tumors off this dead black woman, or this dead white kid, but she's the main one.
I'm sure they found others, they just don't talk about it.
And they got cancer, folks.
jordan holmes
Their cells don't have a race.
alex jones
They're like the movie The Blob.
Then they can dice them all up and turn them into whatever type of meat they claim it is, and you're eating.
Kenrietta Lacks is meat.
jordan holmes
It's not.
alex jones
I was talking about five years ago.
Oh, Hollywood stars have begun to sell their cells so people can eat steaks made out of Brad Pitt.
Remember that?
jordan holmes
No.
No, I don't remember that.
alex jones
If you think I'm joking, look it up.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
But you know I'm not.
dan friesen
I don't know if you're joking.
So there are a ton of immortalized cell lines.
Just because Alex doesn't know about them doesn't mean that no one is talking about them.
As for the celebrity meat thing, that was a website that popped up in 2014 called ByteLabs that was probably a prank or a hoax.
They were saying that they were going to turn celebrities into salami, but from everything I can tell, it was a publicity stunt that never really landed.
What I'm saying is you can't eat Brad Pitt.
jordan holmes
You know what?
It seems as though you looked it up, and it's not true.
dan friesen
But I don't know if Alex is joking.
I think you might just not know what the fuck he's talking about.
I really have a vague memory of some talking point he had from years back.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
You know, I think ten years ago that wasn't going to land.
I think now is ripe.
Oh, man.
dan friesen
It would cause a panic now.
jordan holmes
Oh, it would be a nightmare.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But we do know that Hot Dog is going to be turned into hot dogs after he dies.
unidentified
Can you imagine?
dan friesen
August Lent will help him with that.
And then he'll be fed to Mitt Romney, whose favorite meat is hot dog.
jordan holmes
I like it good, August Lent.
dan friesen
Sorry.
jordan holmes
Like, if they had done that, it's hard to recognize.
Like, in the face of Wayfair, just, like, existing and everybody losing their mind.
dan friesen
They didn't exist.
They were shipping kids and sofas.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Fair enough.
dan friesen
I get what you're saying.
It would be nonsense.
jordan holmes
I'd be right, yeah.
dan friesen
In 2014, I mean, it's not like the distant past, but there is a difference between how everything is so fast and it's flash paper burning.
It wasn't quite as fast then.
jordan holmes
Not quite.
dan friesen
So Alex decides he's going to take calls, which he said he was going to get to way earlier in the show, and he does not.
Also, I'm going to say that in the third hour, Michael Lindell shows up, so I said bye-bye.
I will watch your world-changing seminar.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
But I'm not watching you talk to Alex for a couple bucks.
But we get a couple callers in this clip.
The first is not there, and the second is very sad.
alex jones
Right now, let's go to Noel.
In Colorado, on human engineering, you say it's going to get worse from here.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Go ahead.
alex jones
All right, so you hear me, Noel?
You're not there?
All right, thanks for the call.
I appreciate it.
Let's go ahead and take another call.
Let's talk to a caller in Connecticut.
Let's talk to Tina.
Tina, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hi, Alex.
God bless you.
God bless you for guiding us through this nightmare.
I'm so grateful.
I'm just stunned today based on your report.
I never miss you.
If I do, I watch you later.
But I have been injured by the shot.
I went to a prestigious hospital.
They basically kicked me out after 10 days.
They said, yeah, we don't know.
Go see one of our doctor's outpatient.
And, you know, you shine a light.
You guide us.
We will be victorious in the end, so this is God's will, but gosh, we need you and we support you.
Gosh, we love your Alexa Pure air filter.
dan friesen
God, just a bummer.
Just a bummer.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
No other real way to put it.
Just a real sad, sad thing.
I guess there's a couple reasons I left that or decided to cut that clip.
One is just like...
She's calling it a report.
I'm stunned by this report you have today.
There's nothing reporting.
jordan holmes
I don't recall any reports.
dan friesen
No, he's making shit up about globalists wanting you to be allergic to meat and then throwing a T-bone steak into a vat and coming back and you have, ta-da, tonnage.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then the other thing about her call is...
Did you notice the way that she called that hospital prestigious?
jordan holmes
Yes, she did.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, she did.
dan friesen
Yeah.
That's not coincidental.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Anyway, I imagine that she probably didn't have any vaccine stuff, but thought that she did, and maybe this prestigious hospital was like, there's nothing we can really do.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
I don't know what to...
The story behind that is either so more banal than you want it to be, or so fascinating, and you'll never know.
dan friesen
You mean her life?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The story behind all of this stuff.
dan friesen
I imagine it's a depth of tragedy.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
dan friesen
On the scale of the Homeric epics.
jordan holmes
I mean, it could be, or it could just be somebody who was relatively normal for the past blah, blah, blah, and then in the past few years just got trapped in this shit, you know?
Like, that is also what's happening.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Ah!
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So when Alex gets these big reports...
jordan holmes
About the globalists in the World Economic Forum trying to make several billion people allergic to meat in order to keep people from eating meat, yet not having any plan of what to do with the remaining livestock and so forth?
dan friesen
Let me rephrase this.
When Alex has a weird idea...
jordan holmes
Okay, there we go.
dan friesen
He likes to text his buddies, like Tucker and Joe Rogan, about it.
Sure.
And usually they're receptive.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
But sometimes they're not.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
alex jones
People just can't deal with this.
I send links to all these prominent people.
A lot of times they respond.
Almost always they respond.
But I sent one link to the number one podcaster in the world.
We just had stakes.
And I sent him my report.
And he responds to everything I sent him.
Did respond to that.
And I need to call him today.
But the point is...
Because it just sounds too unbelievable.
jordan holmes
Yes, it does.
alex jones
And if somebody addicted to red meat, like a Joe Rogan...
I am too.
I mean, it just doesn't even seem real.
It's like the government's going to give you a shot where you are allergic to oxygen.
I mean, you know, a big old juicy ribeye, folks, is as good as, you know, sex with your wife.
I mean, let's just get down to reality here.
It's like telling you somebody's going to chop your dick off.
It's just as bad.
I'm sorry to be vulgar here, but I mean, people just don't want to admit this is happening.
dan friesen
You can eat chicken.
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I mean, boy.
dan friesen
This is weird.
And I love the idea that Alex is like, I texted Rogan about this and he's too afraid to respond.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is hard.
It's so fucking on the nose that this type of story is literal red meat for people like Alex.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, this is the most...
It's like it's fucking with my head.
You know, it's literalizing irony and I don't appreciate it.
dan friesen
I can understand where that would be warping.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
To the extent that if I had texted you about this, you might not respond.
jordan holmes
Well, you'd have to give me a call if you wanted a response.
dan friesen
So, I think Rogan's probably just ignoring him.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But, Alex says something about Jesus in this next clip.
And it struck me weird.
I wonder if it'll hit you the same way.
alex jones
That's why I'm Patrick Bette David.
I said, I love my enemies.
The ones that don't know what they're doing.
Like Christ said before he gave up the ghost.
He said, forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do.
And I'm not Christ.
I'm far from Christ, but I follow Christ.
And I understand what Christ was saying there.
He could see how they were destroying themselves.
They were hurting themselves and how sad they were and how captured by evil.
And he said, forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do.
And that's what God wanted from his own son to say that and say, okay, I will now forgive them and wash them in your blood.
Because you asked for it in your dying breath, and he gave up the ghost.
dan friesen
So the thing that strikes me as a little bit weird about that is the implication that if Jesus on the cross had not said, forgive them, Father, they know not what they do, then God wouldn't have.
That it wasn't an entire thing that God sent Jesus to earth to die for everyone's sins.
jordan holmes
It does feel like...
dan friesen
He was the sacrificial lamb of God.
jordan holmes
It feels like...
Actually, Jesus was the only person who has ever lived who had a choice, which was essentially thumbs up or thumbs down on the human race.
dan friesen
Yeah, Jesus had that choice, and for God, it was a game-time decision.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I'm waiting for some feedback.
jordan holmes
I'm hoping Jesus, I don't know what Jesus is going to choose, but I'm leaving it up to this dude.
dan friesen
Now, that's what I would like to hear from my son.
Wow.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That is not at all how I understood the crucifixion, resurrection, and...
jordan holmes
Let's just be very clear on this whole thing.
Of all the things Jesus did, none of them was give up the ghost.
None of them.
He did not give up the ghost.
dan friesen
I thought that was something that he said on the cross.
I thought that was an expression that is used.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I mean like in the more literal sense.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
You know what I mean?
Like to the point where you couldn't say, oh, Jesus died now.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Because he's still kicking.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah, I guess it's an expression that I think I've heard used in the way that Alex is using, so it doesn't quite strike me.
jordan holmes
It doesn't wrinkle you, that's fine.
dan friesen
Yeah, I get what you're saying now.
But yeah, and this introduces all sorts of questions, because would the resurrection have happened, according to Alex, if Jesus had not said, forgive them, Father, they know not what they do, on the cross?
Because then the crucifixion of Jesus wouldn't have paid the toll of sin.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because God would have been like, Jesus didn't say it.
jordan holmes
He didn't say it.
dan friesen
Yep.
I guess I need a new son.
jordan holmes
Or, I mean, still further, could Jesus have made different choices and not wound up on the cross?
dan friesen
Well, hold on.
See, that's overcomplicating it.
jordan holmes
Are we?
I think it's about time that people started to blame Jesus for his terrible choices that got him to be killed.
unidentified
Look, look, look, look.
dan friesen
This is overcomplicating.
jordan holmes
Hanging out with the wrong crowd.
dan friesen
This is overcomplicating the question that I'm trying to look at.
jordan holmes
Okay, fine.
dan friesen
I am looking at this from the perspective of everything up to the crucifixion is exactly the same.
Right.
So, Jesus doesn't say, forgive them, Father, they know not what they do.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Humanity is not forgiven of their sins.
There's not a new covenant that is made through Jesus.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
But...
Jesus still did all the miracles along the way and still said all the stuff that he said, but doesn't end up paying the toll of sin.
jordan holmes
Are you saying at the last moment, everything is building up to this moment, and then when he finally does get the nails jammed into him, he's like, actually, you know what?
Fuck these people.
dan friesen
Yeah, he turns into Alex on a bad day.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
You know what?
Actually, no, no, no.
I don't want to save anybody's fucking life here.
You guys put nails in me.
Go fucking die.
dan friesen
Step too far.
jordan holmes
And then God is just like, hey, man, the dude said it.
All right.
dan friesen
So then how do things play out?
I think it has to be that he has another son, right?
That would make for a much more interesting Bible.
jordan holmes
Here's the way more interesting story.
All right.
unidentified
That is what happened.
dan friesen
Damn.
It's been a cover-up all along?
jordan holmes
It's been a cover-up the whole time.
unidentified
Woo!
jordan holmes
Otherwise, I think we'd be better off.
Right?
It makes more sense if Jesus was like, hey, fuck you guys, to explain the next several thousand years, than if Jesus was like, hey, let's all be cool.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know, man.
It's deep water.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Stop.
dan friesen
Anyway, that just struck me as real strange when I heard that.
That sort of engagement with the idea of the forgiveness that was achieved through Jesus' sacrifice.
jordan holmes
I'll never understand people who think it could have...
I get what you believe about free will or whatever, but I feel like you gotta know that this one is gonna go down the way it goes down.
Because that's the way it was designed to go down.
It's a whole play, you know?
It's a nice little story.
dan friesen
If you are allowing for divinity to be involved in this, then yes, there's determinism in as much as it has to play out this way, or else...
jordan holmes
God's not going to be like, man, I don't know if they're going to kill him.
Like, what?
dan friesen
What are you talking about?
Ooh, I shanked that one.
He's also me.
Went off to the left.
Yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes
God's not going to fuck this one up.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Jesus isn't going to go rogue.
unidentified
Actually.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no.
He's like, I'm going to wash my hands of this.
And Jesus is like, the fuck you will breaks free of everything.
Starts punching people and flies off.
dan friesen
Dubstep drop.
jordan holmes
Totally.
Yeah, absolutely.
Like, oh no, this is actually a superhero movie.
dan friesen
So, I don't know.
Weird.
So we know that Alex maybe knows some people who have been caught by the Nigerian email scam.
So he talks about that a little more.
alex jones
And things are going to get worse and worse and worse and the people that serve the system are going to get more vehement, more aggressive, more hysterical.
unidentified
Believing that...
alex jones
I've used this analogy, we'll go back to your calls, and then we got a special guest join us.
dan friesen
Michael and Del.
alex jones
Yeah.
I...
dan friesen
Pillows.
alex jones
I knew a couple people in business, and then one cousin, who was a pretty smart person, but...
dan friesen
Buckley?
alex jones
There's an old saying, you can't con an honest man.
But people that want to believe in delusions, you can con them.
This was really bad in the mid-90s, up until about 2000.
It was the Nigerian email scam.
Remember that?
And the Nigerians had a scam where they would email you and say, Prince Abubu Mashaka, the crown prince of Abubu Mahuka.
Literally.
Stuff like that.
Boo-boo, boo-boo.
unidentified
Whoa.
dan friesen
So that actually got me thinking.
Not about Alex's friends who fell for this email scam.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But it got me to thinking, was it actually Nigerians who were running this scam?
I have no idea who was actually doing it.
I know that the presentation is like a Nigerian rich person or whatever, but I don't know if it was actually all being run out of Nigeria.
It might have been.
jordan holmes
It never even occurred to me.
dan friesen
Yeah, but Alex is blaming the Nigerians.
jordan holmes
That's weird.
See, in my head, that's just the inner...
You know, like, I don't blame...
Chain letters for existing.
That's just the internet created this.
dan friesen
Right.
To me, the prince or whatever, it could be from anywhere.
And I have seen versions of it that are not Nigerian.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's no reason that the scam needs to be accurate in any way.
It's not like, oh, no, no, no.
I do know a Nigerian prince, of course.
I'm just scamming you out of a little bit of money.
dan friesen
Something that, or at least a country that a scammer could be reasonably confident that most people have no idea about the inner workings of.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And there are a ton of those countries.
jordan holmes
But most people still have seen coming to America, and they probably assume, I mean, you know, most Americans are great at other cultures.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
So, yeah.
dan friesen
There's no doubt about that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Um, yeah.
So, I don't know.
I'm actually, I wish that I had spent more time looking into this, because I am curious where those emails, like, they have to have, like, arrested a bunch of people who are running them, right?
I mean, it doesn't seem like it's a scam that, you know, you could get away with long term.
jordan holmes
I don't know!
I don't know!
dan friesen
Anyway, our next episode will be an in-depth investigation into this, where were the Nigeria email scams run from?
jordan holmes
I kind of wonder if it's actually one of those scams that's like...
In the sweet spot of it's never going to make enough money for people, for like the international cops to get involved.
And it's going to make you enough money that you just keep doing it.
dan friesen
Well, the McDonald's thing was going on for quite a while.
jordan holmes
I know, right?
dan friesen
That seemed like it should have been figured out long ago.
jordan holmes
Long time.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex had a bunch of people that he knew who got caught by this scam.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And it turns out one of them was a fellow host on the Genesis Communications Network.
alex jones
I knew a talk show host on GCN who was a young guy, pretty popular, having a good effect, did a good show.
dan friesen
Name's Alex Jones.
alex jones
He emailed him and said, we have got a major investment for your radio show.
So he started trying to raise money on air.
They wanted like $100,000.
And they were going to give him like whatever millions it was.
I forget the exact numbers.
And he raised the money, gave it to him, and when they screwed him, I call into the show.
And I said, hey man, that's a scam, bro.
You're not going to get more money.
Wait, after they screwed him?
You don't want to admit you're a scam, so you give more money.
And some people, they would get five or six payments from, each one bigger, but the crown prince will give you more this time.
They're like, I can't not give him $200,000 because Prince of Bubu is going to give me $100 million.
dan friesen
So I was thinking as I was listening to that, I don't believe the story, but...
Assuming that somebody at Genesis Communications Network got scammed by this email, it still might be a better investment than Midas Resources.
jordan holmes
I mean, here's what I'll say.
It depends on how many customer service interactions you want to have.
I imagine that if you get scammed from the email one time...
And you eat it, and you move on with your life.
It's way better than if you get scammed by GCN, or Midas Resources, and then you call back.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And then you call back.
dan friesen
I imagine it's easier to get a frustrating person on the phone at Midas than through these email scams.
jordan holmes
What are you going to get on the email scam?
Yeah, you're just going to get somebody who's going to ask you for more money.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Someone who has a plot line ready to go.
jordan holmes
Who's going to be nicer to you than anybody at Midas Resources.
dan friesen
Maybe.
Although, I mean, when Ted Anderson lost his precious metals license, one of the things that was involved with that was a guy who was using Midas resources to try to hide his assets from his wife in a divorce.
So they might be pretty friendly in helping you commit fraud.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a good point.
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
Might be super friendly.
Customer service is number one.
jordan holmes
In terms of precious metals and scams.
dan friesen
Wait a second.
I just realized that after Ted lost his gold license, Midas Resources started selling beef.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
It's all connected.
Alex is trying to protect Ted's investment.
jordan holmes
He's protecting the beef industry!
Oh, Jesus.
Is there anything lobbyists can't corrupt?
You know?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Now we can't even see a man defend meat without knowing there's a financial incentive.
dan friesen
There isn't, I'm sure.
But it was just one of the things that Ted was selling was artisanal beef.
jordan holmes
I know, I know.
unidentified
Ah.
dan friesen
Omaha steaks kind of thing.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Trump beef.
unidentified
Ugh.
dan friesen
Anyway, we're done.
That was anticlimactic.
But yeah, Mike Lindell comes in and I don't give a shit.
But yeah, we're apparently on our way out the door with beef.
This is a shoddily constructed thing.
I joked about this at the beginning of the show, but I really do think that this is my main thesis.
This is desperate.
This is not one of your...
This is a narrative I want to go to.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
This is, what are we going to do?
We got to do something.
I'm running out of gas.
jordan holmes
Either I say that ghosts are real and attacking Biden, or they are trying to make us all allergic to meat.
dan friesen
I wish it was the first one.
jordan holmes
Frankly, it's a lateral move either way.
It's just more fun.
dan friesen
Ghost gate.
jordan holmes
Yeah, ghost gate.
Ooh, now we're talking.
dan friesen
Right.
Ooh, you know what that would be?
It'd be some sort of an electromagnetic fence you could put up to keep ghosts out.
jordan holmes
Oh!
dan friesen
Patent this.
Patent this.
jordan holmes
Alright, alright, alright.
E-M...
dan friesen
Ghostgate.
jordan holmes
Ghostgate.
dan friesen
Send yourself a picture of yourself with a newspaper.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
unidentified
Hobo copyright law.
dan friesen
So yeah, I don't know.
What are your feelings?
jordan holmes
I wonder...
Okay, so it's 80% of people are going to...
Be allergic to meat.
It's not 100% of people, right?
dan friesen
Well, the 20% maybe are globalists and globalist adjacent people.
jordan holmes
Well, sure, but I mean, what happens to those people?
Do we...
What happens whenever there's a protected class of human being that can eat meat and the rest of us...
You know, this isn't 99% 1% shit.
This is...
dan friesen
I don't think it matters, honestly.
Like, what percentage of the population is lactose intolerant?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
Probably a bunch.
dan friesen
Not 98, obviously.
jordan holmes
Doubtful.
dan friesen
Or not even 80. But there's still a segment of the population that's lactose intolerant, and they can still get nutrition the way they need without milk.
jordan holmes
They can?
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
Oh, I thought we mistreated them.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Okay, well then we need to start.
dan friesen
There was a time.
jordan holmes
We need to start.
dan friesen
There's other people who are allergic to peanuts, allergic to all sorts of things, and you can make do.
If we did...
End up in some kind of a really bizarre situation where Lone Star Ticks, let's say, start going off.
Like a sci-fi channel movie level Lone Star Tick invasion.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And 80% of the population ends up allergic to beef.
You do end up with a real...
jordan holmes
Ticknado.
dan friesen
Not bad.
You do end up with a resource problem, because like you said, you do have a bunch of livestock that is alive.
Now you gotta figure out what to do with it.
You gotta readjust some of the resource allocation.
But people would figure out a way.
To deal with it.
It might be challenging at first.
jordan holmes
No, no.
I'm just saying that I'm interested in the social dynamics of when the majority of people are allergic to something as compared to the...
dan friesen
So that becomes the de facto normal in quotes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we have a million examples of...
Allergies, you know, but they're almost always, well, I mean, they're always the minority, but that's by design because it's stuff that we use constantly, so if we were all allergic to it, we never even would, you know, we're all allergic to mercury.
I don't know where I'm going.
You understand what my point is.
dan friesen
I get what you're saying underneath it.
Most of the times it's a smaller subset that is allergic to something.
What would be the dynamic if the majority of the population were allergic to something?
jordan holmes
Like the way people are like, oh, do you have any peanut allergies or stuff like that?
And then some people are also dismissive of people with peanut allergies.
You know, that whole thing.
Would there be restaurants?
Purely, like there would be speakeasy, speakmeatsy restaurants, right?
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Write that down, write that down.
jordan holmes
Yeah, speakmeatsy, yeah.
dan friesen
I don't think it would be like that, but I do think there would be some really tacky, like Guy Fieri-level garishness red meat restaurants.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Yes, I think that would probably happen.
I don't know.
It's an interesting question, but I'm not sure what the dynamics would be.
Thankfully, this all isn't going to happen.
jordan holmes
Yes, that's very true.
That is a very thankful thing.
dan friesen
Short of a ticknado.
jordan holmes
I like a good burger.
No ticknados.
dan friesen
I don't know.
We'll see, though.
Maybe by the time we get back, we will both have been bitten by bumblebees and no longer be able to eat beef.
jordan holmes
Entirely possible.
dan friesen
Fill you in on that next time.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledgefight.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZXClark.
unidentified
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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