#837: March 11, 2004
Today, Dan and Jordan dip back to the past to enjoy some vintage Alex. In this installment, Alex gets real passive aggressive with a caller and covers a couple shootings at secret society initiations.
Aug. 11, 2023 - Knowledge Fight
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| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan. | |
| knowledge fight. | ||
| I need money. | ||
| I need money. | ||
| I love your room. | ||
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Knowledge fight. | |
| Knowledgefight.com. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your brain spot today, buddy? | ||
| Well, I think... | ||
| Conceivably, my bright spot could be some thoughts I had about the Real World Road Rules Challenge. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Conceivably. | ||
| But we talked at length about them already before we started recording. | ||
| There is that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So there's no need to rehash these points. | ||
| It's always fun when we're friends off the show, and then we're like, ha ha, fooled you, people who listen. | ||
| Well, I'm making up for lost time a little bit, because you'd been telling me that you were watching these newer seasons and all this, and I was like, bah humbug. | ||
| No. | ||
| I have to watch this show and I no longer have the taste for it. | ||
| You did bah humbug me. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| And I think if the show was exactly the same or, like, if it was the same in some of the ways that I had a problem with the old one being, I think I would bah humbug this still. | ||
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Fair. | |
| But yeah, we're catching up now. | ||
| I'm watching some of this show and I have to tell you what I thought because I didn't get to back then. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| So that's not my bright spot. | ||
| No. | ||
| But I found some, I showed you also right before the show, in my bedroom, I found some foliage things you can hang on the wall. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| And so I have decided to turn my bedroom into a jungle. | ||
| I can't, you know, you can't. | ||
| Make the walls run with vines. | ||
| Eventually you're going to crack into the walls. | ||
| There's going to be something that gets out of control. | ||
| That's just how it works. | ||
| I wish it was possible. | ||
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I know. | |
| But when you live in a building with other people in it, it's just not going to work. | ||
| Respect is respect. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So the next best thing is these squares that you can put on the wall. | ||
| They have fake astroturf basically coming out of it. | ||
| And so I will have my walls lined with fake plants. | ||
| What's great... | ||
| For you, it's coming from a genuine place. | ||
| There's so many guys who could be doing something like this and you're like, you're going to be real creepy to women when they show up, aren't you? | ||
| That's what's going on here. | ||
| I just want the outdoors inside. | ||
| That's all I want. | ||
| I like this one! | ||
| I also have some flowers and stuff to put in to spruce it up. | ||
| My friend Angela Lampsbury told me about these lights. | ||
| That are like fireflies. | ||
| See? | ||
| This is what I'm saying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so I'm going to put those around too. | ||
| Put some firefly lights in. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| This is 100% a recipe to be creepy to women and you are so excited for you personally and no one. | ||
| You bet. | ||
| You bet. | ||
| And I'll... | ||
| I was trying to figure out a way. | ||
| So Bray Wyatt, whenever people put their lights up, his fireflies. | ||
| And I was thinking of a way to try and work that in as a joke. | ||
| And it just didn't work. | ||
| So what's your bright spot? | ||
| My bright spot, Dan, is, you know, I've been alone. | ||
| Living by myself without my wife for a while. | ||
| Over in Portugal. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And I rearranged the entire living room. | ||
| Moved everything around, set it up in a completely different direction, because you can only control what you can control. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| You know, so if you're worried about things you can't control, that is stupid, you can't control them. | ||
| Take control of the things you can take control of. | ||
| You know, this is a lot like the serenity prayer. | ||
| That's how I do it. | ||
| AA prayer. | ||
| I am a man of serenity. | ||
| That's what people describe me as most often. | ||
| Well, I mean, the word is most closely associated with that episode of Seinfeld where George's dad yells, Serenity now. | ||
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Fair, fair. | |
| So you are in that mold. | ||
| I have something of an ironic relationship to Serenity. | ||
| So now let me ask you a question. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Do you know why I was doing that bass line while you were talking about that? | ||
| I do not, no. | ||
| Do you know what that bass line was? | ||
| I was busy talking. | ||
| I only listen to myself talk. | ||
| I have no idea what you've ever... | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| I've literally never listened to a word you've said. | ||
| Well, you were talking about rearranging furniture. | ||
| It was the bass line to Limp Bizkit song, Rearranged. | ||
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I can't believe I didn't just know that on the top of my head. | |
| So crazy. | ||
| It's iconic. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So are you going to move it back when she gets back or before she gets back? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I did a much better job. | ||
| It's way more functional. | ||
| It's way more practical. | ||
| It functions like an actual living room instead of just being a collection of shit we've thrown on the ground. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I think the last time I was over at your house, the living room was set up where the couch and the... | ||
| The tables had been turned into a giant bed in the middle of the room. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yes, that was when I had created couch bed. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That was a regular situation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And there were a couple of nooks for Fanny and Jake to hide in. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| You have not seen since. | ||
| We have removed all of that and replaced it with a giant bean bag. | ||
| And I feel like I told you about the bean bag. | ||
| I think so, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I told you about the bean bag. | ||
| But the bean bag, we tried to put it in the same place as the other stuff, and we'd had it there for about a year or so, but it doesn't. | ||
| It doesn't make any sense there. | ||
| It's a terrible place for it. | ||
| So I just finally moved it all to the right spot, and it feels great. | ||
| It's awesome. | ||
| I nailed it. | ||
| She's going to love it, and if she doesn't... | ||
| It'll be back to Couchback. | ||
| I don't think she can pick it up. | ||
| Well, that's the ultimate victory, I suppose. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over, and it's short. | ||
| We're going to be in and out of here. | ||
| So, you know, there's present day stuff. | ||
| You know, we had the Steven Crowder announcement on Wednesday, and I felt like, you know, I don't want to just talk more about that. | ||
| Who gives a shit? | ||
| We'll check back in and what have you. | ||
| In the meantime, I've been trying to find episodes to cover for our UK tour, which, hey, a lot of fun. | ||
| I believe you. | ||
| Your problem is you're discarding the ones that don't work and then not just turning them into the episode we do the next day. | ||
| Shit. | ||
| Did that never even occur to you? | ||
| It kind of did, but I thought... | ||
| Some of them... | ||
| You're listening to the hours of the show and then just tossing it aside? | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| Some of them, I don't know if they would even be all that interesting for a plain episode of our show. | ||
| No, of course. | ||
| But, yeah. | ||
| I have two of the shows, two of the four, nailed down. | ||
| Nailed. | ||
| But the pursuit for the other two has been... | ||
| A challenge. | ||
| I'm looking forward to us being on the day before one of them just being like... | ||
| I guess we're doing a show from today. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| I forgot to prepare my speech. | ||
| I better cut some clips. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| On the way to the venue. | ||
| So I've been doing a bit of that and then also listening to the 2004 because I like to keep up with that. | ||
| We're going to get to the election eventually. | ||
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It's going to be great. | |
| I'm looking forward to figuring out Swift Boating and when that came around. | ||
| It seems like it should have been there way in advance of now. | ||
| And where we're at is a no man's land. | ||
| March 2004, the beginning of it, is walking through mud. | ||
| Deep mud. | ||
| Just up to my knee. | ||
| I'm just, ooh, there's nothing in here. | ||
| Ooh. | ||
| I got nothing to grab onto to help me move faster through this mud. | ||
| It is just a tortured metaphor of... | ||
| Johnny Quest in quicksand. | ||
| It's so bad. | ||
| So today we're going to be talking about the 11th of March. | ||
| 311! | ||
| 2004. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Still not much going on, but there's enough. | ||
| And I have a few points that will be worth making. | ||
| 311 is enough. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This episode's all mixed up. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Don't know what to do. | ||
| I don't know what to do? | ||
| Next thing you turn around and find the person is you. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Thought a trick might be the thing, but you know to be the last, so just get off of your ass. | ||
| I'm sorry, it's just, yeah, you know, you can't do a shitty reggae cover of a Cure song. | ||
| I just feel like it's wrong. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| You gotta trust your instincts. | ||
| That's me. | ||
| Let go of regrets. | ||
| Let go of regrets. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Let's bet on ourselves and say hello to some new wolves. | ||
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laughter laughter laughter So first, I've listened to the entire back catalog, and now my girlfriend thinks I'm insane. | |
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| That honestly could be anyone. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| Next, Alex Jones is what happens when Frosty's magic hat lands on a bucket of sodomite poop. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, Buck Nobody, the graveyard janitor, wants to give Celine all the catnip. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| The thought is really appreciated on behalf of Selene, but I will say she's not a drug user. | ||
| She's not a catnapper. | ||
| No. | ||
| I've tried to mess with her with the catnip and give her toys with catnip and it doesn't do anything. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| And she sees through the laser pointer. | ||
| She's such an asshole. | ||
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She's such an asshole. | |
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| Next, Paul M. Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| And hello, govnas. | ||
| Go blimey, but that Alex Jones does sound like a Berkeley hunt. | ||
| I think they're trying to trick me into saying something that's offensive there. | ||
| I believe it's rhyming slang. | ||
| Oh, is it Cockney rhyming slang? | ||
| I believe it's Cockney rhyming slang. | ||
| I tip my hat to you gents! | ||
| Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk! | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Drifted a little into Australia there, I think. | ||
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Although, if... | |
| I mean, my rhymes are not the greatest, but I'm going to go with I don't think we in America want to rhyme with Berkeley Hunt all too often. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's just me. | ||
| That's what gave me a little suspicion. | ||
| Well, I mean, we're in the States. | ||
| We can rhyme. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| And we have a technocrat in the next door. | ||
| So thank you so much to This Is Not Cockney Rhyming Slime. | ||
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Okay. | |
| But thank you so much to Snickerdoodle and the Disciples of ETEP. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Four stars. | |
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
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He's a loser little titty baby. | |
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| So, Jordan, real quick. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I feel like we need to resolve the whole C-word situation between the UK and the US. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| You know, like, the U in color, fine. | ||
| I don't care if there's a difference there. | ||
| I don't care which side we land on. | ||
| I just want standardized English between the two. | ||
| The U is in the Foo Fighters album, The Color and the Shape, right? | ||
| Yeah, see? | ||
| We're fine with that. | ||
| No problem. | ||
| Let that one ride. | ||
| I kind of agree with you, and I think that this is the best argument for a world government. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We just gotta standardize, is it offensive or not? | ||
| That's all I wanna know. | ||
| I'll accept a UN one world government as long as we just determine for good. | ||
| For good! | ||
| No backseats! | ||
| Well, but isn't your dog's name offensive in England? | ||
| I don't think it's offensive. | ||
| It's just a reference to the front bottom, my friend. | ||
| But I think it's a pretty, it's like a... | ||
| Coarse term. | ||
| I mean, it can be used as a coarse term, but pussy is a coarse term as well, but we use it and we do not use the C word in the same way now, do we? | ||
| I guess we don't. | ||
| Yeah, we should have some standardization. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| And then we all get rid of the metric system. | ||
| Wait, I would go the other direction. | ||
| I think I actually meant to say the other direction. | ||
| Okay, I was going to say, yeah, yeah. | ||
| We get rid of everything but the metric system, and I do mean everything. | ||
| What's it called? | ||
| What's our system called? | ||
| The non-metric system? | ||
| There is a name. | ||
| The dumb system. | ||
| The base 12 makes more sense than base 10 system. | ||
| What do you want from me? | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| Yeah, that does sound right. | ||
| So we're going to talk about March 11th, 2004. | ||
| But we're also going to talk a little bit about March 10th, 2004. | ||
| Because there's a little bit of something that's happening that was really bothering me. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And this is, during this time, there was a shooting at a massage. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And Alex will not... | ||
| He's talking about it a lot. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that's red meat. | ||
| And it's getting annoying. | ||
| It was an accidental shooting, and we'll talk a little bit more about it. | ||
| But yeah, he's covering it on the 10th, and here's some of his business. | ||
| He has some ideas about how this is being investigated. | ||
| I was spurred to expand on this on the website because it's so important. | ||
| This was out of New York. | ||
| New York Daily News, it's also out of the Associated Press. | ||
| I have a total of four different articles on this. | ||
| New York Daily News, a secretive initiation ceremony in the basement of a Long Island Masonic Lodge, went tragically wrong when a member mistakenly pulled out a loaded weapon and fatally shot an inductee in the face, police said Tuesday. | ||
| William James, 47, of Medford, New York, was pronounced dead at the scene of Monday night shooting inside the Southside Masonic Lodge, said Suffolk County Detective Lieutenant Jack Fitzpatrick. | ||
| First thing we need to do is find out if Jack Fitzpatrick... | ||
| He's a cop. | ||
| He's got the last name Fitzpatrick. | ||
| He's in New York. | ||
| Alright, now we're getting weird. | ||
| I bet he's a mason. | ||
| No reason for that. | ||
| What? | ||
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What? | |
| And they just say they're sure it's an accident. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| His name is Fitzpatrick. | ||
| He's a cop. | ||
| What more do I have to say? | ||
| He's a mason. | ||
| Show us over, everyone! | ||
| Get the fuck out of here! | ||
| We're worshiping the devil! | ||
| All Irish. | ||
| Cops in New York are Masons. | ||
| Was that a thing? | ||
| Yeah, I guess so. | ||
| I feel like that's not how that worked. | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| But I mean, this is classic Alex. | ||
| And I love that, just that instinct to make shit up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So there was this shooting at this Masonic Lodge initiation ceremony in Long Island, and it... | ||
| Deserves days of coverage, apparently. | ||
| Yes, of course. | ||
| So these people were putting on a show where the initiate was seated with cans in front of them, and someone was going to fire blanks while someone else knocked over the can sneakily. | ||
| But the guy doing the shooting accidentally used his own legally carried licensed gun instead of the one with blanks, and he killed the initiate. | ||
| Upon realizing what had happened, they called for help, but it was too late. | ||
| The guy who shot him was 76 years old, and I could totally see how a mistake like this would happen. | ||
| It's not like something that seems like, oh, I can't believe this. | ||
| No, yeah, you're a bunch of people playing with guns, and then you have a borderline octogenarian holding a loaded, real firearm at the same time! | ||
| You could have put it... | ||
| Put it in the front of the... | ||
| Why isn't there like a... | ||
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A cubby hole? | |
| When you walk in the door, just put your gun in the cubby hole. | ||
| Like, that seems reasonable. | ||
| That would have been my policy. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| So the Grand Master of the New York Lodge put out a statement clarifying that the whole cans and a gun thing isn't actually a Mason-approved ceremony. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Who would have guessed? | ||
| I can't imagine the secretive organization that has control of the world is trying to scare people with poking sticks into cans to make it look like they're shooting guns. | ||
| It would be very hard to sell me. | ||
| Okay, so I go in there, I'm going to be initiated into your thing, and you guys are like, listen, we're hundreds of years old. | ||
| Our organization in the shadows running shit. | ||
| We're big deal. | ||
| Everyone's in hoods. | ||
| The ceiling is bleeding. | ||
| Here's what we do. | ||
| We do, to initiate you, exactly what eight-year-olds in the rural south do to practice hitting squirrels. | ||
| But they don't do that. | ||
| They don't practice to shoot squirrels by knocking over those cans with a stick. | ||
| No, that's true. | ||
| I thought they were going to shoot them. | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So this was a prank that that particular group wove into their ritual without the higher-up's approval. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| The Grandmaster went on to say that, quote, guns positively do not play a role in any officially sanctioned ceremony. | ||
| The guy who did the shooting pled guilty to criminally negligent homicide and got five years probation. | ||
| In court, he cried about what had happened and how the deceased was his friend. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| It's just terrible stuff. | ||
| Tragic for the shooter, and even more so for the family members who lost a husband and father. | ||
| But they're really all just props for Alex. | ||
| This story involves the Masonic Lodge, and this is an election with two Skull and Bones candidates, so this is fucking red meat for him. | ||
| It's so good. | ||
| You couldn't ask for a better narrative. | ||
| He loves it. | ||
| I mean, come on, folks. | ||
| Guns? | ||
| Just don't put them in... | ||
| Fine. | ||
| We're going to have guns. | ||
| There's no escaping them. | ||
| There's no escaping guns. | ||
| But if you just don't put them in your rituals, you're going to save somebody's life. | ||
| Well, you introduce an interesting question. | ||
| And that is, what is it that Alex is mad about here? | ||
| Like, what act that took place is Alex upset about? | ||
| Because it can't be this guy having the legal gun in his pocket. | ||
| Registered. | ||
| Everything's right. | ||
| Everything's right. | ||
| He's carrying legally. | ||
| The ritual is protected by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. | ||
| It's performance. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I mean, he has the right to carry it loaded. | ||
| It is a concealed carry in New York State, right? | ||
| I believe so. | ||
| Everything he did was legal except for the shooting. | ||
| Right, that was the big problem there. | ||
| Now, I'm going to throw this out there. | ||
| That is a mistake. | ||
| It does seem like, though, that is the main purpose of a gun, to do the thing. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The thing that we all agreed was the problem in this scenario. | ||
| Well, the only problem in this scenario is that he had two guns. | ||
| He should not have had two guns. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No. | ||
| But that's not what it is for Alex. | ||
| No. | ||
| Because Alex thinks it's a murder. | ||
| Alex thinks it's a premeditated murder. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| Hey, that samurai shouldn't be carrying two swords! | ||
| Get that wakasashi out of here! | ||
| Well, if one's sharp and one's dull for a prop, then maybe not. | ||
| Maybe not. | ||
| So Alex, here on the 10th, goes on to pretend that he's not alleging a gigantic conspiracy. | ||
| But hey, maybe it's an accident. | ||
| They just blew this guy's head off. | ||
| Just by accident, he just so happened to have the two guns in there, and he just didn't know, and he just pulled one out and shot the guy in the head. | ||
| It just so happens, we're finding these articles going back at other Masonic and Klan meetings, just magically, somebody dies. | ||
| And it just so happens that Hiram Abiff was killed by his fellow Masons, and they normally do do the simulated murders, but sometimes people seem to die. | ||
| The police always say it's just an accident and somebody gets a few months in jail or has to pay a fine, but the sacrifice does take place. | ||
| We're not seeing that happen here. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| We're sure the police officers investigating are right. | ||
| This is no big deal. | ||
| Somebody's got their head blown off. | ||
| They're sure. | ||
| So Alex is playing coy there, but part of that is probably due to the fact that he's alleging a gigantic conspiracy, and I don't know if he wants the audience to fully understand exactly how big what he's alleging is here. | ||
| If what he is saying is true... | ||
| It literally goes to the very top. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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The accidental killing is not actually an accident, according to Alex. | |
| It was a preplanned murder carried out as a ritual, and the police investigating the crime are complicit with the Masons, you know, Fitzpatrick. | ||
| And then the legal system is giving a slap on the wrist to the guy who carried out the ritual because someone has to pay a small price as also kind of a performance, and the ritual had to be carried out. | ||
| Alex's explanation for this is overcomplicated, compared to believing that a 76-year-old dude with two guns in his pocket could get them mixed up. | ||
| Alex knows that his version of the story is a stretch, which is why he buttresses it with these alleged caseworkers, of other Masonic initiation murders, which he provides no examples of, and also why he plays the, oh no, I'm sure it's an accident game there at the end. | ||
| It's ludicrous. | ||
| He knows what he's saying is fucking stupid. | ||
| And if the audience actually clearly looked at what he's saying, they'd be like, that's a bit much. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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There's a much easier explanation for this. | |
| I mean, here's what I can't stop thinking about. | ||
| I can't stop thinking about that this Masonic Temple, I want to not believe this is true, but I do think it's possible that the leader was just going to his higher-ups and was like, oh, we've got this idea for a prank we're just going to add to the initiation thing. | ||
| And he's like, listen, I understand why you think that's fun, but I just don't think it's a good idea. | ||
| I respect your creativity. | ||
| I don't want to do it. | ||
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And then this happens, and then there's that. | |
| He just walks into the room. | ||
| Just walks into the room. | ||
| No, this happens, and then it cuts to the next day. | ||
| The Grand Master is sitting at his desk, like, tapping a pen onto his folder. | ||
| Guy walks in. | ||
| What you doing? | ||
| You are so fired. | ||
| What you doing, buddy? | ||
| You are fired from the business. | ||
| Do you remember what we talked about? | ||
| Do you remember what we talked about earlier? | ||
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Oh, man. | |
| All right, we're going to transfer you to a different one. | ||
| So do you know anything about Hiram Abyss? | ||
| I do not know anything about Hiram Abyss. | ||
| Hiram Abyss. | ||
| Hiram Abyss. | ||
| I don't think he's a real person. | ||
| There was a Hiram that's mentioned as one of the builders of Solomon's Temple, but he's become like a legendary Masonic character. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| In terms of like Hiram Abiff, the person, personage itself, is probably not... | ||
| What the historically referenced Hiram is. | ||
| But he was in charge of, as the story goes, the construction of Solomon's Temple. | ||
| This is, again, just the story. | ||
| This is the legend of the Solomon's Temple. | ||
| But as the story goes, three lower-level Masons accost him and demand that he tell them the Master Mason's secrets. | ||
| He refuses, and then they try to get the secret out of him by torture and ultimately kill him. | ||
| It's not a ritual killing. | ||
| Like Alex would want it to seem. | ||
| And the message of the story seems more about secrecy and the existence of this lost word that died with him. | ||
| This lost secret. | ||
| The weirdest part is that they were all Irish cops. | ||
| Oh no, they're all Fitzpatricks? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So this is the only example of a Masonic killing that Alex offers up to support his argument here on the 10th. | ||
| And I find it to be so weak. | ||
| Yeah, that's... | ||
| He's digging back to the time of the building of Solomon's Temple. | ||
| This is not news! | ||
| Listen! | ||
| You know, I understand. | ||
| As bad as blaming people for Jesus' death is, man, this one goes back way further. | ||
| You can't hold a grudge on this one any longer. | ||
| You just can't. | ||
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Abiff. | |
| Abiff. | ||
| Hiram Abiff sounds like one name, too. | ||
| It doesn't sound like two names. | ||
| It's also a pretty cool name. | ||
| I give it to the Masons. | ||
| I would like to say it in a different... | ||
| There should be a thing where I go, Hiram Abiff! | ||
| You can. | ||
| No one's stopping you. | ||
| Fair. | ||
| So we jump to the 11th. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| All mixed up. | ||
| Amber, energy. | ||
| You fill in all the rest of the gaps. | ||
| So on the 11th, Alex covers... | ||
| There's a big story on the 11th, honestly. | ||
| And Alex barely covers it. | ||
| But he does cover it at the beginning of the show. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Let's dive straight into the news. | ||
| Explosions in Madrid. | ||
| First open train cars scattering bodies. | ||
| Killing more than 170 people and wounding more than 600 at the height of the rush hour commute, according to witnesses and interior minister Angel Acebeas. | ||
| Am I pronouncing that right? | ||
| A series of explosions blasted for passenger trains in the Madrid area today. | ||
| The blast, which came just days before the Spanish general elections, were so powerful the train cars were burst open and bodies of passengers blown out into the roads. | ||
| And don't worry, they'll catch a few patsies and torture the living daylights out of them. | ||
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What? | |
| Putin's been caught blowing stuff up again, and now they're admitting that there's not even a real election in Russia. | ||
| Same thing goes on in Spain. | ||
| England, the U.S., over and over again, they blow stuff up right before elections, and you vote for whoever's in power to save you. | ||
| So the Madrid train bombings were not a false flag. | ||
| And in fact, were carried out by a local terrorist group in Spain. | ||
| They likely had involvement with Al-Qaeda. | ||
| One of the things that's almost... | ||
| Really, really, really hard to definitively prove, but there's a strong belief that they had involvement with our guide. | ||
| The precise motive for the attack is not fully known, and it may actually have been slightly different for different members of the cell itself. | ||
| Interestingly, in the aftermath of the bombing, conspiracy theories began to emerge about who was responsible for the attack, and the leading group in that was the right-wing People's Party, or PP. | ||
| Prior to the election, they'd been in the majority of the Cortes Generales, and in the immediate days after the bombings, they would point the finger strongly at the ETA, a Basque nationalist terrorist group. | ||
| The ETA was a far-left organization, in addition to being Basque separatists, so they were a prime target for the PP, but there was no evidence of their involvement in the bombing. | ||
| Many believed that the existing government didn't want to accept the possibility of an Islamic terrorist organization being responsible because it would call into question the choice to send troops to the war in Iraq. | ||
| The prime minister at the time of the bombings, Jose Maria Aznar, was in power for that decision and was a member of the PP. | ||
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In the end, the center-left party, the PSOE, gained seats while the PP lost seats, making the PSOE the largest power in the Congress and shifting the presidency. | |
| Sure. | ||
| A look at the polling data does show that in the weeks leading toward the election, the PP was looking like the presumptive favorites. | ||
| But after the attack, public opinion shifted sharply toward the PSOE. | ||
| This was a really big upset, and the timing of the change of opinion is notable, with many analysts declaring the election result a positive. | ||
| punishment for the PP, both for the unpopular decision to get involved in Iraq for their response to the bombing and the campaign of misinformation about blaming the ETA Basque separatists. | ||
| Yeah, that's called consequences, yeah. | ||
| So this is a fascinating situation where Alex has a conclusion decided immediately after an event happens, which in this case is that the bombings were a false flag to terrorize the public and sway the election. | ||
| In the end, the bombings weren't a false flag, but public reactions to it definitely did sway the election. | ||
| So in essence, the effect is what you'd expect to see if Alex were right. | ||
| You know, there is a giant effect on the voting. | ||
| In logic, if you were to take what Alex, like the consequence existing as being proof of the if statement, that is what's known as affirming the consequent. | ||
| In the formal structure, you'd see this as like, if A then B, B therefore A. This feels like it works oftentimes when you don't pay attention to it, but it doesn't. | ||
| Take a real world example of this to see what I mean. | ||
| Like, here's one. | ||
| If I drank a bottle of vodka, I'm drunk. | ||
| I'm drunk, therefore I drank a bottle of vodka. | ||
| It doesn't work. | ||
| But when you're not paying attention to the relationship between ideas, it can be very easy to let something like this slip by and not realize that there's a hundred different reasons why B could have happened. | ||
| And the logical statement doesn't hold. | ||
| Well, I mean, for me, I think... | ||
| The lesson that we should have and cannot maybe ever learn, because it's in the government's best interest for us never to do so after 9-11, is that terrorist acts are a consequence, not the inciting event. | ||
| Well, let's put this a little bit more broadly. | ||
| They exist within a continuum of actions. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That, like, one side didn't start, the other side didn't start necessarily. | ||
| There's a confluence of things, and to look at it without context is foolish. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| It is in the government's best interest to say they hate our freedoms. | ||
| It is not in their best interest to say, well, this is a large tapestry of back and forth that has been going on since the fucking Crusades, or whatever you want to talk about, you know? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know, that kind of thing. | ||
| Yeah, one article I was reading, I... | ||
| We actually said that the Crusades might have been partially a potential motivating factor for one of the people who was part of the terrorist cell. | ||
| Why the fuck not? | ||
| You're already picking some random ass shit at the end of the day. | ||
| It's arbitrary which one you pick. | ||
| Pick any number of crimes that you hate somebody for, as far as the government is concerned. | ||
| You're not going to run out. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But in order to look at it like that, we would... | ||
| Then basically get rid of the concept of a false flag. | ||
| Because why would you ever have a false flag? | ||
| It's the consequence of the government's actions. | ||
| It's not the government trying to do something in response to something. | ||
| It is something responding to the government's actions. | ||
| So that's why Alex can so easily call it a false flag. | ||
| You would find other ways to... | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| That's fair enough. | ||
| And I would say also, one thing I want to just make a fine point of in that clip, Alex is saying that they always do this before the election to mess with the election results. | ||
| And that's fair. | ||
| Or at least in terms of what happened, there was a giant effect on the voting results. | ||
| But at the end of that clip, he said... | ||
| That it's to keep the people in power to give you security. | ||
| As opposed to them losing. | ||
| Which is the opposite of what happened. | ||
| But, I'm going to guarantee that when the elections happen, Alex is going to say that it was a false flag in order to get the PSOE in power. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| I guarantee it. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| If he talks about it at all. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, considering, I mean, this is a giant terrorist attack that happened, and considering that there's really almost no discussion of it outside of a little bit, it's a little weird. | ||
| Maybe he won't talk about it. | ||
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Maybe. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| So we had that Long Island shooting. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| Masons. | ||
| We have another one. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| Masons? | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| It's the Klan. | ||
| I don't know why, but here we are. | ||
| Same difference, I guess. | ||
| I've been talking a lot about the New York Daily News and other stories that have... | ||
| I'm trying to find my KKK article. | ||
| It came out of Long Island with the guillotines and now the skull altars and some bizarre type of torture chamber. | ||
| Real quick, that's the way he's describing the basement of the Long Island Masonic Lodge. | ||
| There were, like, props and stuff around. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| So there was, like, a guillotine. | ||
| Nice little... | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I gotcha. | ||
| It's a good ambiance. | ||
| It's like me putting foliage up. | ||
| It is like if you go to the Hell House where people... | ||
| Like, Alex's version of an abortion clinic is that Hell House, like... | ||
| If it's your first time in the basement of a Masonic Lodge, and it's a finished basement with just some nice chairs, that's a bummer. | ||
| You want a guillotine down there? | ||
| You want a guillotine down there? | ||
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Come on! | |
| Even if it's just decorative. | ||
| Have fun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, the Christian conservatism of what Bush and all of them are into, they do the same stuff in the tomb at Yale, and they're blowing this guy's head off. | ||
| This mason blew one of the initiates' head off. | ||
| And now there's a bunch of other articles about it as new horrors start coming out. | ||
| But the police within an hour and a half of being there, it's a total accident, we're sure of it. | ||
| They normally don't declare that for a few weeks. | ||
| The grand jury looks at it. | ||
| The DA looks at it. | ||
| But, man, they seem to know in these cases. | ||
| Alex is misrepresenting when police immediately say there's no signs of foul play. | ||
| That doesn't mean that they're, aha, nothing to see here. | ||
| That means something very specific, but Alex can exploit the way that people see that. | ||
| And the people who were there were incredibly cooperative. | ||
| Of course they were! | ||
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This was a horrible, tragic accident! | |
| I mean, if a refrigerator fell through the ceiling and it was this guy's fault for shooting up into the ceiling and the refrigerator fell down and landed on this guy, it would be functionally the exact same level of tragic accident for the exact same purpose. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Are there cans on the ceiling that you're trying to shoot? | ||
| Big ones. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I say these cases because it seems to happen quite often that it's all just an accident. | ||
| Man hit by a stray bullet in KKK initiation ceremony. | ||
| This is out of the Sydney Morning Herald. | ||
| There's a lot of these articles we found, but it's covering the U.S. A bullet fired in the air, that doesn't happen. | ||
| You don't fire a bullet in the air and then have it hit somebody even 50 yards from you. | ||
| They always come down. | ||
| They have to come down. | ||
| They don't go into space. | ||
| Don't go into space. | ||
| Just the way the arc works. | ||
| So that shows that that's ridiculous. | ||
| A bullet fired in the air during a Ku Klux Klan initiation ceremony came down and struck a participant in the head, critically injuring him, authority said. | ||
| By the way, it didn't strike one of the idiots standing around in the satanic regalia. | ||
| It of course hit the initiate, the person being tortured. | ||
| It just magically in these cases hits them, but it's always an accident. | ||
| Gregory Allen Freeman, 45, was charged with aggravated assault and reckless endangerment in the incident that wounded Jeffrey Murr, 24, on Saturday night. | ||
| About ten people, including two children, had gathered for the white supremacist group ceremony. | ||
| And it says the man who was being initiated was blindfolded, tied with a noose to a tree, and shot with paintball guns as Freeman fired a pistol into the air. | ||
| To provide the sound of real gunfire, Sheriff Ed Grable said. | ||
| So Alex hasn't read this story or he's willfully lying, which you can tell because he's screwing up a bunch of details in order to make it fit his narrative. | ||
| Also, I don't know if the Klan and the Masons are the same thing. | ||
| I know they are to Alex, but I don't accept that premise. | ||
| They are not. | ||
| They're not the same thing. | ||
| So here are just a few of the things that Alex got wrong in that coverage. | ||
| First, the bullet that struck someone wasn't shot into the air and came down to hit somebody. | ||
| This guy, Gregory Freeman, was hit by a paintball while he was shooting in the air, which caused him to fire off an errant shot that hit somebody. | ||
| Oh my god! | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Do you expect better from the Klan initiation ceremony? | ||
| Damn it! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The person hit by this errant bullet was not the initiate in the ceremony. | ||
| Carl Mitchell III was the one being initiated by being tied to a tree and shot with paintballs. | ||
| Conversely, Jeffrey S. Murr was the guy hit by Freeman's bullet right in the head. | ||
| Mitchell yelled at the rest of the Klansmen to cut him down, and then he went on to provide first aid to Murr. | ||
| So it seems like he passed that test. | ||
| What a good initiate. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, he's tied to a tree, and then... | ||
| Buddy gets shot in the head. | ||
| Still trying. | ||
| Trying to help. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Good dude. | ||
| So yeah, there's a number of details Alex gets wrong here. | ||
| Because if he didn't get them wrong and he reported this correctly, it would be a lot more difficult to fit this into the mold of the story he's telling about the Long Island thing. | ||
| Smash cut to the KKK guy going to the same Long Island mason boss just being like, alright. | ||
| We shouldn't have done the ritual part. | ||
| I get that. | ||
| The paintballs aren't loud enough. | ||
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It was just off the Long Island thing. | |
| I understand that maybe we made a similar mistake, but you can't. | ||
| Man, I'm going to have to let you go. | ||
| You're so fired. | ||
| You're fired from the clan. | ||
| You're fired from racism. | ||
| So Alex takes calls for most of the rest of the show. | ||
| And there's some conversation about what do the Masons even do? | ||
| Like, what good are they? | ||
| When I was growing up, My best friend in elementary school, his dad was a Mason, and we went to the Masonic Temple a few times and played Magic the Gathering. | ||
| So I believe that the Masons invented Magic the Gathering, or magic, whichever you choose. | ||
| And have a community room where kids can play games. | ||
| I think it's a great... | ||
| Community center. | ||
| It was nice! | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, I know there's a number of charitable and community-based things that they're involved in. | ||
| But the only one that this clip seems to take into consideration is a child's burn unit? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Or something? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And I only kept this clip in because Alex is a real dick. | ||
| Now imagine, this is going on all over the place. | ||
| Imagine if you or I tried to get a place, looks like a mausoleum. | ||
| Do this kind of stuff. | ||
| If we weren't Masons, man, we'd have police raids on us. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| But because they're doing it, oh, it's no big deal. | ||
| People say, oh, they've got children's burn centers. | ||
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They can't be bad. | |
| I mean, it's ridiculous. | ||
| Yeah, that's there in Tennessee. | ||
| And ask yourselves, what a great tax write-off. | ||
| And how many burned children are there really, folks? | ||
| Six. | ||
| That's a big question. | ||
| Thank you for the call. | ||
| That's a big question. | ||
| How many burned children are there, really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hey, asshole, helping these burned children. | ||
| How many of them are there? | ||
| How many are there? | ||
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What? | |
| Five? | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| You're wasting our time. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I'm going to give them one thing. | ||
| All right? | ||
| The Lions Club doesn't get this much shit. | ||
| True. | ||
| You know, if you want to not get as much shit, don't name yourself the Masons or whatever. | ||
| Name yourself something weird, like the Lions Club. | ||
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I bet they could be doing all kinds of evil shit. | |
| You wouldn't suspect the Lions Club of being behind the goddamn government, but I bet they are! | ||
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No one suspects the Lions Club. | |
| With their little fucking mints. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I want to say this to Alex. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know how many burned kids there are? | ||
| Way more than you think. | ||
| So many. | ||
| Whatever you're trying to minimize, there is definitely more. | ||
| There's so many fires every day. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| And skin grafts are so fucking expensive. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| And just scars for... | ||
| But I just liked Alex's response. | ||
| How many burned kids are there? | ||
| How many burned kids are there? | ||
| I think he thought, like, man, I fucking nailed it. | ||
| I bet it's not even that big of a problem. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So another guy calls in. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And he wants to know a citation from Alex, which is always trouble. | ||
| That is interesting. | ||
| Apparently the globalists want to turn the United States into a third world country. | ||
| Heard that before. | ||
| And so this guy wants a little... | ||
| Show me where that is. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Right now, let's go to Bill in Ohio. | ||
| Bill, go ahead. | ||
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How are you doing? | |
| Good, sir. | ||
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Listen, I heard you, I believe, yesterday. | |
| I forget whether it was you or perhaps a guest at some point made a reference to an individual who had put out an article sometime in the past referring to their desire to see the United States or their belief, I guess, that the United States standard of living had to be reduced down to the level of the rest of the world. | ||
| I'd like to know what publication was that? | ||
| Hundreds. | ||
| Hundreds. | ||
| I've heard NPR do what I've seen on national TV. | ||
| The OECD, Organization of Economic Cooperative Development, has said it. | ||
| The IMF, the World Bank, has said it. | ||
| The Joseph Ciclitz of the World Bank, when he quits, said they're planning it. | ||
| The World Bank documents say it. | ||
| They're posting the interview section of Infowars.com. | ||
| It is the stated policy that we've got to lower our standard of living. | ||
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You have it on your website? | |
| It's all over the place, yeah. | ||
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Attributed to where you can find it? | |
| It's thousands of places. | ||
| Yeah, if you've got thousands of references, you've got zero. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| I mean, I know that there is always talk of needing to, you know, reduce inequality, you know, reduce inequality in the world, and there's sort of... | ||
| Voluntary changes to our consumption patterns and our standard of living that we can make. | ||
| We're not being forced to make. | ||
| Globalists aren't making. | ||
| Us make. | ||
| And simultaneously, there's things that can be done to really help boost standard of living in the developing world. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| These are the conversations that Alex takes and tweaks and turns into these thousands of references for this caller, which is useless. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Wait, what? | ||
| I'm not going to look at every article from the NPR? | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| The fuck are you doing? | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| So here's what we do. | ||
| Or here's what I'd do if I was Alex. | ||
| All right? | ||
| I'm creating my own, and I'm creating my Great Firewall version of the internet. | ||
| I'm doing China's version of the internet. | ||
| And then if I say something like this shit where I'm like, oh, hundreds, thousands of articles, I would have somebody just like throw chunks of text like what I kind of said onto different articles all over. | ||
| So you could Google something I said and it'd be like a fucking men's health magazine. | ||
| article from 1974 and it still pop up like, see, I told you this is what it's been. | ||
| Everybody's saying it. | ||
| It's everywhere. | ||
| I mean this sincerely. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Even with the fairly early internet when Alex was coming up or, you know, by 2004, it is what it is. | |
| You know, it's not present. | ||
| It's still going, yeah. | ||
| It would be fairly easy for him to provide his primary sources that are behind so much of this. | ||
| And, you know, I think it's a good thing. | ||
| If he wants to commit to, like, this is all really just about Gary Allen and W. Cleon Skousen and weird shit my grandpa told me and then a bunch of science fiction books that I read, then we could assess it based on that. | ||
| You know, it's not fair to completely hide everything that you're basing your worldview on because you know you'd be laughed out of the room if you did. | ||
| That is very much both... | ||
| It's cheap. | ||
| It is so much like... | ||
| Yeah, obviously it's not fair. | ||
| And then you're like, well, obviously that's why he did it. | ||
| Because that's the only way to do it, is unfairly. | ||
| Because it's just not fair. | ||
| So Alex complains quite a bit about churches having 501c3. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Different reasons. | ||
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You guys are complaining about it. | |
| Yes, I believe that too. | ||
| And then he gets another call, and this is pointless, the actual subject matter, but I thought this was delicious passive aggression. | ||
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Here's a question, Alex. | |
| How can we avoid having those things in our bodies? | ||
| You can't. | ||
| They're going to mount on these new police vehicles. | ||
| Really quick. | ||
| She was asking about nanotech in our bodies because she's worried about being in food. | ||
| And then she's like, oh, they're going to put tracker things in our food. | ||
| But then you would just go pass through your system. | ||
| And Alex's like, not if there's nanotech in it and it lodges in your guts. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| So he's created a new thing for her to be afraid of. | ||
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Science. | |
| And so now she's like, how do I avoid this? | ||
| Yeah, that's a good question. | ||
| And Alex's response is, you can't. | ||
| Like something Darth Vader would drive. | ||
| Microwave guns, sound cannons. | ||
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No, I'm talking about the RFID chip. | |
| Well, no, no. | ||
| I'm trying to just give you an example. | ||
| The RFID, you, look. | ||
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Huh? | |
| I was going to talk. | ||
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Oh, I'm sorry. | |
| No, no, go ahead. | ||
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You ask the question. | |
| When you're ready, I'll tell you. | ||
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All right. | |
| How can we avoid getting those RFID chips? | ||
| In our body. | ||
| Okay, well let me go over that. | ||
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Okay, sir. | |
| Well, no, I mean, I'll just tell you. | ||
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I'm really concerned about this. | |
| This is pretty scary stuff. | ||
| Now I'm going to tell you. | ||
| Poor lady. | ||
| Look, the product code, the universal product code, the barcode, did not get fully accepted until 1986. | ||
| Yeah, this is Alex Furious in 2004. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He's so mad. | ||
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Woo! | |
| Love it. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| Yeah, that's such the difference in customer service between people who need something from you and people who think they own a captive audience forever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That, to me, is just good, clean fun. | ||
| Yeah, that is. | ||
| You know, hearing Alex like, well, I was going to answer. | ||
| I was going to say something. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| No, no, no. | ||
| You go ahead. | ||
| You go ahead. | ||
| I'm just a guy with a radio show. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| No big deal. | ||
| I was asking about the RFID things. | ||
| I would have answered if you hadn't shut your mouth. | ||
| It would have been great to tell you all about the RFID, but I can't. | ||
| Now I have to talk about barcodes. | ||
| We're starting from the beginning. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Let me tell you how we got paper. | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| All right, so papyrus. | ||
| It's not just a word for fun. | ||
| So, Alex gets another call, and this guy brings up numerology. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And so Alex weaves it into symbols, maybe like the Saturnian cube. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Let us now talk to Chris in Florida, another caller from Florida. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
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Good to be with you, Alex. | |
| Yes, sir. | ||
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I just wanted to bring something to your attention. | |
| I mean, you've gone over it numerous times about the direct link between numerology and our wonderful occult government. | ||
| I was talking with some gentlemen today, and apparently we figured out that it's been exactly 911 days between the World Trade Center bombings and today's attacks in Spain. | ||
| Oh, somebody ought to do the math on that and email it to me, or I should do the math. | ||
| And they are obsessed with numerology, and for those that are doubting it, here's an example. | ||
| Numerology and iconology icons. | ||
| All the Starbucks coffees have all-seeing eyes dripping coffee into a cup. | ||
| Triple sixes everywhere. | ||
| The goddess symbol with the two serpents coiled about. | ||
| And, I mean, again, it's the back of the dollar bill. | ||
| It's the Time Warner symbol. | ||
| It's everywhere. | ||
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It's just amazing. | |
| I can't believe it. | ||
| It is just amazing. | ||
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You have to believe it when you look around. | |
| These psychopaths are not backing down. | ||
| We've got to stand up against them. | ||
| So I have two important points. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| First is that numerology and iconology, I don't know how they're connected. | ||
| Same thing. | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| Numbers, symbols. | ||
| What is a number but a symbol of a number? | ||
| I don't disagree with that. | ||
| That numbers are in some ways symbols. | ||
| But they are not the same in the context of what Alex is saying. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| Second. | ||
| Alex is talking about all this iconography with the dollar bill and the Starbucks having the all-seeing eye dripping coffee into the goddess. | ||
| Does the all-seeing eye drip coffee? | ||
| Maybe back then it did. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
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All right. | |
| But anyway. | ||
| How different is this from what the Q Shaman was saying? | ||
| You know, like this idea that they put all these images around in order to give us bad energy or something. | ||
| Like, why isn't, in 2004, why isn't Alex telling this caller that the globalists are just trying to feed Saturn? | ||
| Because you didn't talk about the devil openly back then. | ||
| You did a little bit. | ||
| Well, you did a little bit. | ||
| Not nearly to the level. | ||
| You did in the, like, Pat Robertson, it's a life and death struggle against Islam. | ||
| That's the way you talked about God. | ||
| Alex talks about the devil in terms that have the deniability of, like, you think he's literally possessing people and demons and stuff. | ||
| You know, I wonder how much bigotry... | ||
| Really was, like, focused towards Islamophobia in that time period where it would otherwise not have been. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah, I hear what you're saying. | ||
| There was so much Islamophobia going on at the time. | ||
| How many people who were otherwise... | ||
| They were too busy? | ||
| Yeah, they were like, oh, I would love to be bigoted towards LGBTQ people today, but I'm just too Islamophobic because of the government and the media and stuff like that. | ||
| It's an interesting question. | ||
| I don't know if it quite works that way. | ||
| No, I mean, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| It's an interesting question to see if there's some sort of bottleneck where it's like a... | ||
| A certain amount of cooperative racism bottles, you know? | ||
| Well, I do think a lot of it is based on fear. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Or at least some of the ways that bigotry gets hooks in people is through... | ||
| Focused around fear. | ||
| Appeals to fear. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And certainly in the time around the Iraq War and after 9-11, the Islamophobia was very, very attached to fear. | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| There was one fear and it was... | ||
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unidentified
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Huh? | |
| It almost could feel like other bigotries you might have aren't as important because they're not as scary as Muslims are being made out to be at this period of time. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I wonder if that's ever been studied. | ||
| Well, I mean, you've got to figure. | ||
| It just occurred to me. | ||
| You should look into this. | ||
| I'm going to be the world's pioneer on this. | ||
| No, I mean look into it and see if someone else has done a study. | ||
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Obviously. | |
| Obviously, Dan. | ||
| Obviously. | ||
| No. | ||
| I grew up in a small town in the middle of fucking nowhere, and there were people who were legitimately like, what would we do in an actual, like, okay, somebody's gonna terror attack our fucking town in the middle of nowhere, you know? | ||
| Like, that was a very real and present fear for these people. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That's crazy! | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I think I've told this on the show before, but on 9-11, I was in Columbia, Missouri in a high school class in a... | ||
| Culinary arts class or whatever. | ||
| And they had us duck under the counter. | ||
| Because there was some kind of an idea that maybe... | ||
| But there was just fear. | ||
| Here's the problem, I think, with studying the specific thing that you're talking about. | ||
| The only way you'd really be able to track it, I think, is finding people who were aggressively Islamophobic and then seeing if they posted... | ||
| More broad hate afterwards. | ||
| And that, I don't know. | ||
| It would be very difficult to quantify this. | ||
| Oh, no, no, no. | ||
| I bet self-reporting is going to be the way to understand this one for real. | ||
| I mean, look at their Facebook timelines. | ||
| So we have one last clip here, and Alex has an announcement. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Dean in California. | ||
| Working with Steven Crowder. | ||
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unidentified
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Hey, Alex. | |
| Hello, Dean. | ||
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unidentified
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Hey, man. | |
| You're making a great impact all the way out here to the West Coast. | ||
| Keep it up, man. | ||
| There's a lot of minds out here. | ||
| Where are you in California? | ||
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Well, I live in Manhattan Beach, but I work in Long Beach. | |
| Well, you'll be able to hear me on Kogo and KFI and all of them tonight. | ||
| I'm going to be on Coast to Coast for a couple hours. | ||
| I listen to that show regularly. | ||
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I'm going to definitely check it out. | |
| Well, awesome. | ||
| Yeah, so Alex is beginning to go on Coast to Coast at this point. | ||
| I believe this one might actually even be his first appearance on Coast to Coast. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| If it's not, it's his second, let's say. | ||
| And this is kind of something that I want to make a strong point of. | ||
| George Norrie is inviting Alex on, and through negligence or ill will, he is giving Alex... | ||
| A giant career boost. | ||
| Alex and him have both, you know, they've had conversations about how, like, it was one of the things that really took Alex to the next level, being on Coast to Coast. | ||
| And I think that George Norrie sucks. | ||
| I do. | ||
| I don't know if he's as bad as a lot of Alex's guests, but he sucks. | ||
| But I think he, as a radio show host, fell into all the same traps. | ||
| That everybody does. | ||
| Alex is just an interesting guy. | ||
| He has some interesting opinions. | ||
| The media thinks he's a crazy person. | ||
| So let's talk to him. | ||
| Then, you don't listen to his show. | ||
| And in 2004, he's having Nazis on all the time. | ||
| He had Tex Mars on just fairly recently. | ||
| He has Mel Gibson's dad on. | ||
| There's real problems with Alex's show. | ||
| And when you're somebody who doesn't really pay attention and don't, whatever, I'm not going to listen to the shows of the people I book and provide a huge platform for. | ||
| When you don't do that, you're going to get duped by the everyone's against him because he has kooky ideas. | ||
| And that's so useful for Alex. | ||
| It's so fucking useful. | ||
| But this, at this point, should have been shut down. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Or at least not gone on Coast to Coast and gotten probably, I don't know, a million new fans? | ||
| No, that's probably the foundational bump for him. | ||
| That was the first bump that sustained growth. | ||
| Yeah, because he goes back on Coast to Coast pretty regularly. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, but it is so much like when we were coming up in comedy. | ||
| You know, that like, I'm running my show, I'm gonna book people who can give me opportunities as well. | ||
| You know, oh, this person runs a show, I'm gonna book them on my show because I can get booked on their show. | ||
| Not because I think they're super funny or because I watch them or because every time I see them perform I'm excited. | ||
| I don't even really care. | ||
| And that's when you get into situations where you're like, oh, he's always been nice to me. | ||
| He's always been really nice to me. | ||
| Well, I'm taking personal life out of this. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So the analogy for you would have to be, you've never gone to see this person perform, and you book them on your show, and then they do a fine stand-up set, and you're promoting their show, and on their show, it's nothing but Nazi shit. | ||
| I mean, well, I mean, that's fair. | ||
| I mean more the interpersonal dynamics here. | ||
| The dynamics at play are... | ||
| I am giving you this platform for an exchange, and that exchange has nothing to do with performance, or your show, or the quality of your show, or anything like that. | ||
| Ideally, it's an unequal exchange, obviously, because Nori has a larger audience. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| But... | ||
| There is a thing that Alex provides that he needs, which is, you know, just something for the mill. | ||
| Cred. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| Crazy person. | ||
| That's what I mean, yes. | ||
| You know, you're going to run out of things to talk about. | ||
| Ghosts, yeah. | ||
| You know, like, eventually. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You know, so you need a fairly regular supply of interesting people who are willing to say shit that's nonsensical. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so Alex can provide that. | ||
| For George, and George can provide him with a large audience. | ||
| Now, Alex isn't going to sail this anti-Semitic, bigoted shit on Coast to Coast. | ||
| That's part of the arrangement. | ||
| And I do wonder how much George Norrie would be conscious of that. | ||
| Because I do think he sucks. | ||
| I think he has terrible politics. | ||
| He's annoying. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He needs to get rid of that mustache. | ||
| Nah, his mustache is fine. | ||
| But, I don't know if he would be, like... | ||
| Not knowing Alex at all, would he be willing to get on board with Tex Mars? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
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unidentified
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Yeah. | |
| Maybe. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| As I say that, I realize I don't know if Tex Mars has been on coast to coast. | ||
| He very well might have. | ||
| You're already way too late, my friend. | ||
| I know Steve Pachanek was on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I suppose the question then is really this. | ||
| Is... | ||
| Is Alex just smart enough to, or just like savvy enough to unspoken, I'll never reveal how racist I am on your show. | ||
| Yeah, I think there's a fair amount of kayfabe to it. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, Nori had no idea, just no clue, to the point where there was no need to have any conversation in advance of just like, hey, you know what you're supposed to not say, right? | ||
| Nazi. | ||
| I think that you'd have to watch a bit of Alex's show, and you'd have to read between some of the lines and look into the people he's talking to and what they mean by the things that they say in order to get the character of the message that Alex is putting out at this time. | ||
| So I don't believe that George Nori is capable of that, given his schedule. | ||
| It wouldn't be possible. | ||
| You know, it has just really occurred to me... | ||
| That we have never really wrestled with how much power just having three hours to talk is. | ||
|
unidentified
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Well... | |
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It is a lot. | ||
| For a daily show to have that much time... | ||
| But in order for it to actually have the power energized, you do need to also have an audience. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| But that's, I mean, once you're there... | ||
| But Coast to Coast has such a luxury of being one of the very few super late night actual shows. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Things are rebroadcast overnight and what have you, but for the people who are staying up late... | ||
| That's what it's for. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I loved it. | ||
| I mean, hey, listen. | ||
| In my time. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| It's all legs! | ||
| Forgot about that. | ||
| I forgot. | ||
| Guy's a fucking idiot. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| It's all legs! | ||
| Jordan? | ||
| Yes, Dan? | ||
| We'll be back for another episode on Monday. | ||
| But until then, we have a website. | ||
| It's all legs! | ||
| We're also on Twitter. | ||
| Sorry, it's knowledgefight.com, and it's at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| That is correct. | ||
| We will be back, but until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZXClark. | ||
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beep beep beep boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo boo That was Limp Bizkit. | |
| Rearranged. | ||
| And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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unidentified
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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unidentified
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |
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