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Aug. 7, 2023 - Knowledge Fight
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#835: August 5, 2023

Today, Dan and Jordan enjoy Alex's Saturday "emergency" broadcast.  In this installment, Alex interviews a guy who does not want to be called the Q Shaman, where it is revealed that the Globalists want to feed us all to the planet Saturn.

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
10:51
d
dan friesen
41:58
j
jacob chansley
14:25
j
jordan holmes
27:41
Appearances
Clips
m
malcom roberts
00:08
s
steve quayle
00:02
Callers
andy in kansas
00:02
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
It's time to pray.
unidentified
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
I need money.
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
jordan holmes
Stop it.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a big fan.
andy in kansas
I love your world.
unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot, Jordan, today is a story of redemption.
jordan holmes
A story of redemption.
dan friesen
There's a prodigal son story.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
About a week ago, I took a little walk, went down to the store.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Had my earbud in.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I always walk around the city with one earbud in.
I don't know if that's weird.
Is that weird?
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
It is.
An AirPod, just one pod in?
unidentified
Just one?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Just one?
I gotta see my surroundings.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
I gotta keep my head on a swivel.
jordan holmes
No, I guess it's not.
I bet it's way more normal than it should be.
I'm just a person who cannot exist without...
Music and, like, stereo.
unidentified
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
Well, I'm usually listening to a podcast.
jordan holmes
Oh, see, well then, yeah, you can handle that.
dan friesen
Yeah, so I have someone, you know, usually, like, a little how did this get made or something in my ear, and I can stay alert for city shenanigans.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Anything goes down, you know?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Could be a wolf.
jordan holmes
Could be a wolf.
dan friesen
Could be a car driving on the sidewalk.
jordan holmes
Any number of things.
dan friesen
Any of these things.
You need to stay aware.
Yeah.
Anyway, I was wearing one, and then I got home, and I realized...
I didn't know where it was.
Yeah.
I put it in my pocket at some point.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
Because I needed to talk to the cashier or something like that.
And then between there and here, I had lost it.
Yesterday, I'm coming back to my apartment.
jordan holmes
No.
You did not see it outside.
dan friesen
Walking down the hallway.
There it is.
jordan holmes
No shit.
dan friesen
Laying on the ground in the hallway.
Yoink!
Pick it up.
Also realize that the building does not clean the hallways.
Maybe someone should have thrown that away by now.
But I'm glad they didn't, because now, boom!
Both my earbuds back.
jordan holmes
Nice!
Yeah, I mean, now I kind of want to drop a piece of candy on my way out.
Please don't.
dan friesen
I would encourage you not to.
jordan holmes
I'm just testing your place out.
dan friesen
Honestly, I'm sure if you did it inside my apartment, it would definitely be here the next time you got here.
jordan holmes
We'd never see.
dan friesen
Celine would eat it or it would still be here.
One of the two.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
So yeah, what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is this week I did a guest interview for Life After MLM with Roberta Blevins.
It's a nice podcast about...
Multi-level marketing schemes, and then, you know, once you start talking about MLMs, you get into cults.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
It takes so short a walk.
dan friesen
There's similarities.
jordan holmes
Yeah, so a lot of people have been interested in my origin story, and so yeah, go listen to that.
dan friesen
Sweet.
jordan holmes
I get it all out of the way.
We don't have to talk about it on this show ever again.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, I think we did at one point.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm saying!
dan friesen
But I don't remember what episode it is, and who knows, and so now there it is.
jordan holmes
It wasn't even an episode.
It was at the earliest part of COVID where we were just like, we'll just talk for a while.
So yeah, now it's there.
Go listen to it.
It's great.
dan friesen
I almost worked at MLM once.
jordan holmes
Did you?
dan friesen
The knife company.
jordan holmes
Oh, the knives.
dan friesen
Yeah, I went in for an interview there.
At the time, my friend wanted to make a reality show about me.
And so our plan was to get really drunk and then go to the interview.
But I got really drunk, and then we showed up at the interview, and then they said no cameras were allowed inside.
And so my friend who was videotaping had to wait outside, and then I had to go in really drunk.
And they offered me a job.
jordan holmes
Huh?
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
All right.
Well, I mean, lesson learned, children.
unidentified
They'll take anybody, because they're just trying to sell you the knives.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
We're going to be talking here about the 5th, August 5th.
That's Saturday.
Okay.
Alex did an epic emergency Saturday transmission.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
So we finally got our epic response to Trump's indictment.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
unidentified
What?
Nope.
What?
dan friesen
Nope.
This is as close to a Wacky Wednesday episode, I think, as we're going to get on an Alex Jones episode.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
That's why I took the opportunity to jump on in here.
jordan holmes
So recent news completely tossed aside.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Yeah, for the most part.
I mean, there's some recent news that's not true.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
That we'll get to before it turns real wacky.
Sure.
Hey.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
dan friesen
Some stupid shit coming.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So, before we get to that, though, we should say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
Now, here's the thing.
Our workflow now is that you send me an email with wonk names in it.
Indeed.
Because you monitor the email box.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And you said that you didn't have any, and I forgot to put some together.
So...
This is a great opportunity for us to say, if you have not heard your name, please send an email to knowledgefight at gmail.com, where Jordan monitors the email box and then sends along to me names to be shouted out.
jordan holmes
I will say this.
I believe that everybody who has sent an email in the past three months has received a shout-out, except for...
I think maybe one person, because one time you said that I accidentally put the same thing twice.
dan friesen
I think you did.
jordan holmes
And I may have copied and pasted the wrong thing.
unidentified
Oh.
jordan holmes
So if you are somebody who sent an email in the past three months...
I'm pretty sure that I got everybody, but I may have fucked up one.
I'm so sorry.
I'm so sorry.
dan friesen
Yeah, and the Patreon email box is unusable.
Please send a message to knowledgefight at gmail.com.
That is the entry point of the spigot.
jordan holmes
Yes, we love you so much.
dan friesen
But for now, I will just read some random names.
jordan holmes
That's a great idea.
I like it.
dan friesen
So first, Mr. Venom, thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
That's like when the symbiote puts on a tie.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Mr. Venom.
jordan holmes
Mr. Venom, thank you very much.
dan friesen
I am carnage.
Mr. Venom was my dad.
Is that good?
jordan holmes
That's better.
dan friesen
All right.
Next, the first atheist president.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, happy birthday, Michael.
I couldn't find a bucket of sodomite poop.
Hope this message is good enough.
Love, Brian.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
I'd like to apologize.
That was Brian, not Brian.
unidentified
Next, thank you so much to Biggin' Brigiligator.
dan friesen
Brigiligator.
Brigiligator.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
That didn't flow off my tongue.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
That's not your fault.
That's me.
jordan holmes
So much.
dan friesen
Yeah, that was great.
And thank you so much to Hot Mess Response Team.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Now, Jordan, Saturday shows?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex had been doing a fair amount most of them, you know, a bit more.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But it hasn't been super consistent lately.
That's why I got very excited to see that there was an old Saturday show.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Alex is trying.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And that's nice.
unidentified
So...
jordan holmes
When's the shoe going to come?
dan friesen
I was going to say, yeah.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
Thanks for letting me know.
dan friesen
So the first bit of the show is a little bit of COVID vaccine stuff.
So we'll get through that before the nonsense.
alex jones
I cannot think of a more important, groundbreaking report.
Nanotechnology found in both vaxxed and unvaxxed.
I have a stack of new prestigious studies from the United States, the UK, Canada, and Europe.
Where they've confirmed what we already knew over two years ago from other studies, that the vaxxed are shedding.
It's not a vaccine.
It's a nanotech replication system.
And when it really takes hold in certain people, even young people, the coroners all over the world have reported.
The head pathologist in Germany went public a year and a half ago.
And they just pulled giant solid protein crystal clots out of even 15 year olds that are dead That have clots that somebody at 80 would have that literally drank buckets of bacon grease Damn.
dan friesen
So this whole the vaccine is shedding narrative is really critical for Alex and his ilk because it allows them to explain negative health effects in the unvaccinated population as being caused by people who got the vaccine.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
You got to be able to do that.
Otherwise, you're going to run out.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Look for this to become a lot more popular, especially if there's another wave of COVID, as some have warned, could be coming.
jordan holmes
Yeah, sure.
dan friesen
Alex's entire premise is that the mRNA vaccines are nanotech bioengineering weapons, as opposed to another, you know, vaccine, which might just be a vaccine, and that's proved by these clots.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
However, all you need to do is look at statistics to understand how stupid this idea is.
First, the incidence of blood clots after vaccination is very low.
However, the vaccines that have been associated with cases of clotting are the AstraZeneca and Johnson& Johnson vaccines.
Either of which are RNA-based.
jordan holmes
The ones specifically that are not.
dan friesen
Yes.
That alone is a hurdle that Alex's argument can't clear, and there's just nothing going on here.
Also, that stuff about crystal bioclots, that's based on nonsense that Mike Adams has put out.
It's not even worth taking seriously.
jordan holmes
I feel like that means that Mike Adams just pushed a kidney stone recently, and he's like, well, now I know where to go.
dan friesen
As for that report that Alex is talking about at the beginning, The prestigious reports?
No, no.
We'll get to some prestigious reports later.
He played a Greg Reese report right before this.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Before he came in.
It's just like, it's so good.
It's just Greg Reese saying that if you take antioxidants, you can maybe reverse the damage of the vaccine.
So that's great news.
jordan holmes
You know what?
I'm fine with that.
I'm fine with you selling me something that will reverse the vaccine or whatever.
Because it won't.
That's a lie that I'm fine with because you can't hurt me with that lie.
Well, I mean, fuck it.
You can hurt me with it.
Never mind.
I take it all back.
I take it all back.
dan friesen
It perpetuates the same thing just going over and over again and then not having to take responsibility for the implications and consequences of the rhetoric.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
We found a cure.
jordan holmes
I think it's like a ranking system of like, well, I would prefer, like, don't take the vaccine.
Do this.
You know, I would prefer that towards, like, reverse it.
You know, I would prefer, hey, if you got the vaccine, try taking antioxidants.
That'll make you feel better.
unidentified
That's fine.
jordan holmes
As opposed to, like, don't get the vaccine, take antioxidants.
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
Well, you need to protect yourself from the vaccinated, so you need to take antioxidants.
Oh, damn.
Also, seems like real shitty planning on the part of the globalists.
jordan holmes
Terrible idea.
dan friesen
If they were designing a bioweapon that was going to be part of their grand plan to take over the world, and the only thing you have to do to protect yourself from the consequences of it is take, like, a tomato?
Eat a tomato?
jordan holmes
But they're not that abundant!
Where are you going to find antioxidants in this day and age, Dan?
It is 2023.
What is that?
What is that?
Ketchup?
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Who puts ketchup on any meals?
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that's really dumb.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think that would probably be a huge roadblock in the success strain.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, apparently, there's also a lot of people who have been vaccinated maybe haven't been, according to Alex.
alex jones
But here's the headline, Infowars.com.
I'm going to have Jamie White, who's doing our weekend desk, add this to the live show feed today, a link to this back to the front page.
This is just simply mind-blowing.
Now, we already knew this from documents that came out all over the Western world, from the U.K. to Canada, the U.S., to Australia, to New Zealand, to Germany, to France, and it was also in the Netherlands and Sweden this came out.
When I see an article like this, I don't just have it compartmentalized in this one piece.
I remember.
And remember Greg Reese's report from two years ago that we played probably more than any other report he's put out.
We probably played it 50 times.
We played it last weekend on the special show as well.
I think the headline is red states being sent deadlier vaccine or something like that.
Let's pull that up.
The crew's really good at finding it.
Because in that, he has the scientists, the doctors, the experts, these major statistician firms that looked at the dose numbers and then tracked the fact that around half of the shots, it's the same in Europe, major studies came out just a few weeks ago confirming it.
The EU admitted it two weeks ago.
Sweden, their government admitted it.
I mean, this is incredible because we discovered this, other researchers discovered it.
Years ago, now it's all confirmed.
They call it range-finding.
So, like, you fire a range-finder off your rifle out to 1,000 yards to know how far it is before you set the scope or whatever.
It's the same thing.
Around, on average, you would vary country-to-country, time-to-time, range-finder, range-find.
They were always tweaking it.
But around half of the vaccines, that aren't vaccines, had very high levels of the poison nanotech.
And the spike protein in them.
And if you got that, you had major health problems.
You got sick as a dog.
Your body got colonized.
A lot of people had heart attacks, myocarditis, strokes, you name it.
Old, young, it doesn't matter.
Really bad.
But half the public got saline.
So half the public got saline.
Around 40% just got a little bit of it.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
So some people had bad reactions, others didn't.
And then, depending on the country, 10 to 4%, it varied.
10 in one country, 9 in another, 6 in another, 4 in another.
Like Sweden was 4%.
4% got the deadly shot.
And that's also meant to confuse the public.
Well, why did you not get sick, but you got really sick?
Or why did Ernest Ramirez Sr. not get sick, but his 14-year-old son in great shape played basketball, baseball, you name it, have a heart attack and die four days after it?
dan friesen
Maybe not related to the vaccine, or maybe everyone's body is different.
I mean, it's a cute way to try and, like, you know, sidestep the randomness of...
You know, different people having different effects for different things.
Like, why did I get high with a friend of mine and I had a panic attack and they didn't?
unidentified
Why?
jordan holmes
That is a good question.
dan friesen
It was the same weed!
jordan holmes
No, it was probably because you got the poison nano weed.
dan friesen
Right.
Yeah, I was colonized by the poison nano weed.
jordan holmes
I'm fairly certain that I counted roughly 150% or more of people in Alex's estimation.
dan friesen
4% in Sweden.
jordan holmes
Very high, 50%.
Right, 50% got saline.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
40% got a small a bit.
unidentified
Ish.
jordan holmes
And then another 10% got another.
But that one varies from between 4 and 10%.
dan friesen
Right, country by country.
jordan holmes
Roughly 150% is the total number.
dan friesen
I think that's just 100.
jordan holmes
50, 50, 40, 10. Wait, what's the second?
dan friesen
What's the 50?
jordan holmes
The 50 is very high, nanotech.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Then 50 is saline.
dan friesen
Oh.
jordan holmes
And then 40 is some.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And then 5 to 10 is a different amount.
dan friesen
You might be making some of this up.
I mean, sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
If you do math.
jordan holmes
Sure.
I'm sorry.
I'm just trying to follow along.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
But apparently the EU themselves admitted this a couple of weeks ago.
They admitted that they have 150% of the people that they say they do.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's a strange thing to admit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Hello, I'm Mr. EU.
I would like to make an admission.
jordan holmes
It's Dr. EU.
Mr. EU is my father.
dan friesen
Well, this math is hard.
I was making fun of it.
You have recommended that I watch the newer seasons of the Real World Road Rules Challenge.
jordan holmes
Oh, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And so I did take a bite out of that apple.
And I watched one of the seasons.
I was texting you about it.
And I'm like, one of the challenges is addition.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
One of the challenges they have to do is addition.
unidentified
They did not do well.
jordan holmes
They did not do well.
dan friesen
And then I watched, what season was it?
It was the Invasion of the All-Stars or whatever.
unidentified
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Do you remember that season?
Nuh-uh.
Who cares?
jordan holmes
They all turn into the same season.
dan friesen
More or less.
The finale.
The final challenge.
There were three teams, and the first leg, which was half of the challenge, was division.
One team had to take the time limit.
They had to just say, we can't do it.
jordan holmes
We can't do division.
I'm afraid it's undoable.
This problem...
This problem, widely recognized as between a third and fifth grade level math problem, is unsolvable!
dan friesen
I understand complex division can be difficult, but this was 27 divided by 3. What'd they get?
I don't even know if they tried.
There's no way.
jordan holmes
I will say, and I don't appreciate knowing her name, but I do know that on that show...
Amber is maybe the single worst at math person that's ever existed.
dan friesen
Confused by numbers.
unidentified
Just thoroughly destroyed by them.
jordan holmes
Just like, nope, can't do them.
Pass.
dan friesen
There was another challenge that was basically a Sudoku puzzle, and it took the dudes who were competing in it, there were three dudes, it took them over two hours.
unidentified
Woof.
jordan holmes
It's brutal.
I mean, listen, there's some things I'm bad at, and tremendously so.
dan friesen
I guarantee that that Sudoku puzzle was not the Sunday Times equivalent of the crossword puzzle.
It was not.
jordan holmes
That's the problem.
dan friesen
It's not a trap.
jordan holmes
See, that's the problem, though, right?
Like, I could do that.
I could do long division.
But if you asked me, like, genuinely, like, try and wrap a Christmas present well.
I'm taking the time limit.
I'm like, no, I can't do this.
I'm sorry.
I can't do tape.
dan friesen
That's more understandable to me, though.
And I think I'd give you a pass.
jordan holmes
Well, we're about physical people.
dan friesen
And I think I'd give you a pass if it was long division.
unidentified
This was 27 divided by 3. I mean, come on.
Come on.
Come on.
dan friesen
Anyway, where were we?
Saline shots?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think we got off on that.
dan friesen
So I thought that clip was really interesting for a couple of reasons.
The first is that what Alex says at the beginning there, he's about to cover an article, but he's not just going to cover that article in some compartmentalized way.
He's going to approach it with the context of all these other things he knows, like vague memories of other bullshit narratives he sold the audience in the past.
I think this goes a long way toward explaining why Alex can read something that says X and he pretends that it says Y. Because he's decompartmentalizing the article.
And I understand.
We all approach everything with the awareness of things we've learned in the past.
It's just the things that he's learned in the past are not true, and he doesn't really even remember them.
He's just kind of vaguely remembering lies.
jordan holmes
It is a little bit like he's just got these almost spider senses.
Just like a flash of like, hmm, I think I should walk forward down this path.
And then a flash of like, hmm, this might be fire.
I'm going to avoid that.
I think that's what we're...
dan friesen
Yeah, it's the most basic of skills, and he still constantly runs into fires.
So the second reason I think this is interesting is that it appears that Alex is deeply invested at the moment in explaining why unvaccinated people might be dying, and why it doesn't seem like vaccinated people are dying as much as his narratives would suggest they should be.
This comes off as him covering stories and reporting, but it's actually damage control.
He just doesn't let the audience ever see it like that.
This is a narrative that is based in covering up the implications and what would be true if the things you said before were true.
People were not given saline shots as a matter of policy.
In fact, if you take a second to look into this claim, you'll find that there are a decent number of doctors who have been arrested for giving people saline shots instead of the vaccine.
For instance, Michael Kirk Moore, a plastic surgeon from Utah, was charged for injecting a bunch of people who were anti-vax so they could get fraudulent vaccine cards.
They also injected their children with saline but told them they were getting the real vaccine, which is fucking crazy.
disgusting and exploitative of these children.
unidentified
Yeah, wow.
dan friesen
There was a case of this in India and in Germany, in both instances driven by anti-vax individuals trying to commit fraud.
You can also find a couple small incidents of localized problems where a few saline shots were administered by accident, and in each of these cases, the people potentially affected were alerted, and the shots were redone.
There are very, very small instances of this happening, but not nearly to the extent that Alex is describing.
That Greg Reese report that he's talking about, we actually covered on a past episode.
Back then, it's a load of shit.
And this whole narrative is just dumb and baseless, but it's so useful for Alex.
They need to explain away some of the really problematic statistics, and in order to do that, you need to construct an entirely new lens to view these stats through, which is the, oh, yeah, all the vaccine people who should be dead didn't die because they got saline shots.
It's cute.
It's damage control.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is unfortunate to watch people have to experience Experience a more primitive experience of science.
Wherein you go, I think this will be true.
And then through experimentation and results, you discover that that is not true.
But...
unidentified
They can't do that, so they have to lie about it.
dan friesen
You have gotten results that invalidate your hypothesis.
jordan holmes
Everything you've ever said about it.
dan friesen
So you pretend that you changed the methodology of it and cling to the conclusion.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Bunch of load of shit.
unidentified
It's bullshit.
dan friesen
But I honestly think that if you pay attention to that dynamic, like right there, with the vaccinated people should be dying in mass.
Based on everything that you said, ah ha ha, oh no, they were given saline shots.
That right there, that dynamic, the fact that the audience allows Alex to get away with shit like that is why he's been on air for 29 years.
That is why conspiracy shit can perpetuate despite it always being wrong.
jordan holmes
Oh, I mean, the day that you get, you know, okay, the world's gonna end this day, and then the world doesn't end.
You have to say, okay, well then you are wrong, sir.
But that guy comes back and says, oops, I got it wrong.
And then it's another day.
dan friesen
It's that viewing it through a new lens or building a new structure on top of the failed prediction.
jordan holmes
I read the prophecy wrong.
I needed the math upside down.
Now we can believe me.
Now, listen, I fucked up.
We've all fucked up in the past.
dan friesen
Look, I learned how to do division.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Not yet, Amber.
dan friesen
So, we have another country.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Not in Europe.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
Interesting.
jordan holmes
Not America.
dan friesen
All right.
Canada?
Australia.
Oh.
jordan holmes
Still majority white.
dan friesen
Sure.
But also, you would say they're British.
jordan holmes
No kings!
No kings, baby!
If you got a king...
dan friesen
Oh, God.
You could get your ass kicked.
So, their Senate, they had a little meeting, and Alex has some words about it.
alex jones
But now this is broken.
In the Australian Senate, Pfizer officials admit company employees received different COVID jabs than rest of the population.
And what do you want to bet?
It was saline.
jordan holmes
A lot of money.
alex jones
Or it could have been an attenuated virus for COVID that would still have issues but could protect you some.
A classic vaccine.
Here's a clip.
malcom roberts
You read that your vaccine mandate was using your own batch of vaccine especially imported for Pfizer, which was not tested by the TGA.
unidentified
Is that correct?
Senator, so...
Pfizer undertook to import a vaccine specifically for the employee vaccination program.
alex jones
The full article has them explain that they took another shot than what they pushed and had liability protection for the Australian people.
dan friesen
No, it doesn't.
So, first of all, Alex is reading this article from an outlet called Wine Press News.
It's a Christian-based conspiracy site that just posts Infowars-type nonsense.
jordan holmes
Oh, so not...
Wine.
dan friesen
No, I was kind of disappointed.
But there's a...
I'm not exactly sure.
It might be a reference to something, but there's like a sword and then a drop of blood in their logo.
jordan holmes
I mean, I would assume it's like Jesus' blood.
dan friesen
Right, I understand that sort of, but the wine press part, maybe press is the news, you know, like the press corps.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Something like that.
dan friesen
So the second thing here is Alex plays that clip, but he cut off the important part of the guy's answer.
He's being asked if they had a batch of vaccine imported for their employees in Australia, and he answers, quote, so Pfizer undertook to import a batch of vaccine specifically for the employee vaccination program.
But the part that Alex didn't play is when he immediately after that says, quote, and that was so no vaccine would need to be taken from the government stocks that was being delivered to clinics as needed.
This is no smoking gun, and that part needs to be chopped off, because if it was there, the guy's answer would make total sense.
Alex is trying to pretend that they commissioned an entirely different vaccine.
They just imported something for the Australian employees so it wouldn't take away from the stuff that's going for civilians.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's bullshit.
jordan holmes
You know, it's almost like they did a bunch of math and they were like, oh, we should have some extra because we don't have the right...
There you go.
dan friesen
And they're the meds people.
They can do that.
jordan holmes
You'd think that that would be their thing.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, prestigious studies.
jordan holmes
What about them?
dan friesen
They're coming.
jordan holmes
Do they get more prestigious or less prestigious?
dan friesen
I think prestigious is just a placeholder epithet for things that Alex wants to be cool.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He needs to strengthen them and add authority to things.
And so everything is just prestigious.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, it's prestigious.
dan friesen
This one ain't.
alex jones
New study in confidential Pfizer documents confirm mRNA vaccine shedding has been occurring with shockingly dangerous consequences.
And these are, again, major prestigious studies.
Go read it for yourself.
dan friesen
Major.
jordan holmes
Prestigious.
dan friesen
So this is an article that Alex is reporting on that could be any number of bullshit conspiracy outlets, because a lot of them have the same headline.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But they're all just re-reporting on an article from July 2023 in an outlet called The Exposé.
This article is covering a non-peer-reviewed study published on Med Archive, the RXIV, that, you know, I was told that that's pronounced Archive.
RXIV?
unidentified
Oh!
jordan holmes
Alright!
unidentified
Alright!
dan friesen
It was published on there and that was in May 2022.
So that was last year.
It isn't proof of anything and it's not a super prestigious study.
That's just a load of shit.
No one has verified any of this.
jordan holmes
You know, see, this is where we get back to me.
I'm just a words guy.
I think we all need to establish what exactly it requires for a study to be prestigious.
There's too much ambiguity, Dan.
There's too many gray areas.
Okay, so you're going to tell me that this is a prestigious study.
Now we have to establish a standardized way of determining how much prestige any given study has at any given point in time.
dan friesen
I think if you found Alex at the exact right time and you had a bag of blow...
You two could really nail that.
jordan holmes
We could really get to the bottom of this.
dan friesen
You could nail it down, I'm sure.
jordan holmes
All right.
We'll get a time machine, and then maybe we'll solve the future.
dan friesen
So we have one more prestigious study before things go off the rails.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
Here's another one.
Breaking.
A new study from the University of Colorado confirms that COVID-19 have been transmitting dangerous antibodies.
dan friesen
That's the same study.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway.
That's the same Med Archive May 2022.
jordan holmes
Moving on.
dan friesen
So now things are about to go off the rails because Alex has a guest.
alex jones
Also getting into January 6th with Jake Chansley at American Shaman on Twitter and his website is ForbiddenTruthAcademy.com Arizona man Ray Epps plans to sue Joe Rogan after he repeats Fox News and Tucker Carlson claim that he was an informant during the Capitol riot.
I've watched the video.
Talked to Joe last night, too, about it.
And Joe says, people are saying this.
I don't know if Ramps is a Fed.
All I know is he hasn't been arrested, and all these other people that did less than him have been arrested, and many of them put in prison.
That's the Joe Rogan quote.
Preposterous that they could win a suit, but you've seen what they've done to me, folks, misrepresenting what I've said and done.
So it's a very serious situation there.
And Joe's getting more hardcore every day.
Joe Rogan can't imagine America once President Kamala Harris.
Calls Newsom an effing con man.
So Joe just gets better and better every day, and he is officially fully Alex Jones-ed.
Fully red-pilled.
So very, very, very, very exciting point that we are now at.
Jake, wonderful having you on with us.
dan friesen
Love that kind of introduction where you just ramble about Rogan.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And I think Rogan's, I think he's gonna get sued.
Like, I think he stepped in it.
I think there's a fair number of people who should be pretty worried about the stuff they said about Ray Epps.
Like, I legit...
They were so desperate to pin J6 on him that there are a fair number of media figures that are fully exposed.
And, yeah, I would worry about that if I were Rogan.
I'd be very, very careful and probably...
I think it would be wise to do a pretty big retraction of some sort because that guy has been harassed a lot.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I don't even know if these people can do it anymore.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Probably not.
But I think Alex is lucky that he's already in the ringer, you know, kind of.
I think no one's going to sue him over this because we've seen, you know, the path that he's on and, you know, you don't want to further derail someone else's bankruptcy thing or whatever.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, the irony is almost the opposite.
Alex is a deterrent to suing somebody this rich because it's like, Jesus fucking Christ, what's the point?
dan friesen
I would disagree, but yeah, it is a case.
It's a study of how much headache is going to come along with it.
So you don't know who this is?
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
It's the Q guy.
dan friesen
Yeah, Q Shaman.
jordan holmes
It's the Q Shaman.
I guess I thought he was in prison.
dan friesen
He was.
jordan holmes
Okay, so he's out of prison.
dan friesen
Yeah, he got out recently.
jordan holmes
Okay, all right.
Good for him.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
I guess?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I mean, I'm fine with that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fine.
He's on InfoWars.
Let's do this.
What are we doing?
dan friesen
He's been on before, because right after January 6th...
Alex and Matt Bracken, I believe, were grilling him because they're like, you're a fan.
jordan holmes
No, I remember that.
We had a lovely episode about that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And then I think he's been on once or twice since then.
Like maybe once before he went to prison.
I think one time since.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But man.
Man, oh man, this guy.
jordan holmes
Okay, so...
dan friesen
He knows what he's doing, and he is going straight to the top.
jordan holmes
Okay, alright.
I have not been sold so well in the past five years.
dan friesen
That's interesting.
He's got his talking points down, and he is very good.
At least in this interview.
I did go and watch one of his videos, and he came off a lot stupider.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Granted, he comes off very stupid in this, too.
But, like, he has his touchstones of New Age guru-hood down.
He knows how to weave them into sentences.
He says something and then says, okay.
Like, it's really condescending.
Makes you think that he's delivering some information that you should already know.
And, I mean, I just think he's, I don't know, he gets the shaman outfit off.
He's a reasonably attractive person who is...
Somewhat media ready.
He can make probably a bunch of money in the New Age guru-y grift, which I think is probably the direction he's going.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Oh, good for him.
dan friesen
But it's funny to hear him and Alex because this is ridiculous stuff.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, that is...
I don't recommend this, Ken Burns, but if you were going to make a new Civil War documentary...
Don't do it about all the stuff they chose to do.
Just find everybody who went into the Capitol and then follow their lives from then on out.
I think there's so many interesting and weird stories that are going to come from that that should not all converge on, yeah, one time I tried to overthrow the government, you know?
dan friesen
This is a job for Linklater.
jordan holmes
This is a Linklater!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, yeah, absolutely!
dan friesen
He loves permanent projects.
jordan holmes
Oh, he loves that shit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
I don't know.
As you were talking, I was half listening.
jordan holmes
Thinking about something else.
dan friesen
Well, I was just thinking about the Patriot community in the 90s.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And the idea of there being like a Ruby Ridge shaman.
And how ridiculous that would be.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, but the internet makes memes showing up in real life totally fine.
In the 90s, a cartoon showing up in real life, you'd be like, this is obviously silly.
It's a cartoon.
I just saw Who Framed Roger Rabbit.
I know how it's not supposed to look.
dan friesen
Yeah, I guess so.
So anyway, here is the Q Shaman, who apparently doesn't like being called that.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
You earned it.
That's your brand, buddy.
So the shaman.
I'll be semi-respectful.
The shaman comes in, and here's what he's got.
alex jones
Thank you for joining us.
Do you want to comment on the poison shot news I just rolled out, or just move on to other topics?
jacob chansley
Well, actually, I could bring it all around as soon as I kind of lay some groundwork, if you like.
alex jones
You got the floor.
Go ahead.
jacob chansley
Okay, cool.
All right, so...
According to the HeartMath Institute, our DNA acts almost like antenna, kind of like our brain acts like antenna for what something quantum physicists call non-local consciousness.
They say that consciousness is not an emergent property of complex neural activity in the brain.
But rather, consciousness is kind of like the laws of physics.
It's embedded in the universe.
So consciousness is very, like, intricately and tightly knit into the fabric of reality itself.
And they call this non-local consciousness.
And they say that our DNA and our brains are like antenna for this non-local consciousness.
We are sending and receiving light and information or electromagnetic signals through our DNA and through these antenna on our DNA and through our brain and brain activity.
jordan holmes
Sure.
jacob chansley
So what ends up activating this DNA is the emotions that we feel.
So if we have a low-frequency emotion, if we have a low-frequency thought, then this creates a wave of fear in the electromagnetic field around the body, okay?
And when you do that, it activates far less of the antenna on the DNA.
Sure.
So when you then have a feeling of love...
jordan holmes
How many antennas exactly?
dan friesen
So many.
jacob chansley
Then what ends up happening is that it's a much higher frequency emotion, a higher frequency thought, and far more antennae are activated on the DNA.
Now, the other thing that happens is that the electromagnetic field around the body actually, during fear-based thoughts and emotions, it constricts and it gets tighter around the body.
The DNA also really constricts and it tightens up and it degrades faster.
Whereas in the case of love, the DNA actually expands, and it relaxes, and all of these antennae get activated on it, and the electromagnetic field around the body expands, and it expands further and further beyond the body.
dan friesen
Yeah, whenever I fall in love, I call it, my DNA's kicking off those shoes, taking a load off, getting in the lazy boy.
My DNA's relaxing!
jordan holmes
Baby, your love makes me feel like an icy hot patch.
Because it is so smooth away.
What are we doing?
dan friesen
This is just basic new age.
First of all, how dare you?
Second of all, you haven't heard about the Hard Mind Institute?
jordan holmes
No, I was a huge fan of Ken Kesey.
I'm well aware of the electric Kool-Aid acid test.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
And all I've learned from all of those times is after I heard that guy's first sentence, my first thought was like, hit him with a rock and get back on the bus!
We've gotta go!
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean...
jordan holmes
We're teeping our acid for ourselves!
dan friesen
This is like a really interesting kind of case study of a person...
Who's just spouting the same gobbledygook that you find in any New Age kind of shithole.
But then also applying it to pretty far-right politics.
unidentified
Yeah!
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, it's a strange thing that the 60s did to us is now we've got a new one that's all Nazis.
That's real great.
unidentified
Yeah, but they love vibrations.
dan friesen
And your DNA antennas.
jordan holmes
See, it's like a higher frequency.
What frequency?
What frequency?
Tell me what frequency number.
Give me the exact number right now.
We have frequencies that can be measured in so many different ways.
dan friesen
I guess, like, metaphorically, if I were looking at it...
When you are with somebody that you love and you're experiencing that feeling, there is kind of like an openness and a vulnerability that you can kind of physically feel.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
But maybe it's not something concrete.
It's just kind of like an endorphins running through you or whatever.
And then whenever you're really highly stressed, it kind of feels like you're constricting.
Sure.
jordan holmes
Oh, it looks like you've got some weight on your chest.
dan friesen
It's probably your DNA in the antennas.
jordan holmes
See, now that is where we get into trouble.
I appreciate everything you said up until...
And then it's probably your antenna DNA thing.
See, now you've brought it into the realm of physical.
dan friesen
Sure.
Well, see, here's the thing.
There's a lot of loose metaphors.
jordan holmes
I don't like that.
dan friesen
In the world of New Age bullshit.
jordan holmes
I don't appreciate loose metaphors.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I don't like those at all.
dan friesen
Well, you're going to have a tough time.
jordan holmes
I believe I will.
dan friesen
Dealing with the shaman.
jordan holmes
I believe I will.
dan friesen
So here we're going to learn about sound vibrations a little bit.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This actually is a little bit tough for me because it is something that is real, but it's being applied in a stupid way.
jacob chansley
Let's talk about cymatics for a second.
unidentified
Sure.
jacob chansley
I'm sure you're familiar with cymatics, Alex.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
He's not.
jacob chansley
For those that aren't, though, cymatics is basically the use of sound and frequencies to create certain patterns within mediums.
So I'm sure many people have seen the video where somebody puts grains of sand or grains of rice on a metal plate or a speaker.
And then what they do is they plug a sound into the speaker, they turn a frequency on, and then the frequency ends up causing the grains of rice to manifest in a pattern of sorts because of the vibration that is being channeled through the speaker.
Now, the higher the frequency, the more complex the pattern.
The lower the frequency, the less complex the pattern.
Now, if we look at Earth like it is the speaker, And we look at the electromagnetic field around the Earth like it is the frequency.
Then we as human beings, our civilizations, all life forms on the planet, end up basically being the grains of rice that are on the speaker and being moved by the frequency.
Now this is really profound.
dan friesen
It is!
unidentified
Is it?
dan friesen
Maybe you said the same words, just in a different order.
Yeah, you seem mad.
jordan holmes
I mean, I just, I appreciate...
dan friesen
Can you imagine Alex listening to this?
jordan holmes
Can you imagine thinking this?
dan friesen
Yeah, I can.
jordan holmes
Man.
dan friesen
Yeah, I can.
jordan holmes
I appreciate...
dan friesen
This is so much closer to the kind of stuff that could have swung me earlier in life.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Especially when I was really down and out, just desperately into ideas of human potential and a little bit more...
I don't know, because it's not paranormal.
But whatever it is, the pseudo-spiritual ideas about, like, there's more going on, man.
That kind of stuff, I think, is fairly dangerous.
I could imagine believing it.
jordan holmes
Let me give you an idea of what he just described for you, as far as the frequencies go.
So here's a low frequency.
You see how the wave is very long.
There's a large amount of space to it.
dan friesen
Right, right, right.
I understand that.
jordan holmes
That's a low frequency.
Is infrequent.
Alright, here's a high frequency.
Much more of those, more frequent.
dan friesen
Shit.
jordan holmes
But the pattern is the exact same.
The pattern is not more or less complex.
It is a function of the frequency.
dan friesen
Right, but let me describe what he's actually talking about.
Because you can find these videos and they're really cool.
You know, the vibrations that the sound makes through the metal that's attached to it will create patterns that look like a rose or something like that based on how the metal is vibrating.
unidentified
Oh, sure.
dan friesen
And there's certain amounts of this I think you can even change by how tight you have the metal attached to the thing.
Yeah.
unidentified
There's probably really minute changes.
jordan holmes
When you're talking about overlapping frequencies, then you can get these kinds of canceling outputs.
dan friesen
He's not talking about the pattern and the sound.
He's talking about the pattern that the rice makes, or the sand makes.
jordan holmes
But the sound is what makes that pattern.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
But the rice doesn't do it on its own.
unidentified
Here's where we come to loggerheads very clearly.
dan friesen
No, I understand what you're saying, and I actually don't think he's correct.
But the idea that he's trying to say is that higher frequencies when they're played through this speaker will make more complicated patterns on the plate.
But I also don't know exactly how you're defining complicated patterns.
jordan holmes
There's an issue.
dan friesen
But yeah, I think it's really cool the way that it works.
Like, you can just sit and stare at that like it's a fucking lava lamp.
jordan holmes
No, it's very cool.
No, no, no, I understand.
Sometimes electromagnetics of all kinds can be very exciting to just watch happen.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Look, look, sometimes stuff floats.
You don't know how.
You don't know why.
dan friesen
Well...
jordan holmes
It's just invisible, and then it floats.
dan friesen
Sometimes it's pretty easy to understand why.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
unidentified
Like, what if the Earth is a speaker and the...
jordan holmes
No, see...
Very loose metaphor on that one.
That metaphor got real loose.
dan friesen
Well, it has to do all the work here.
Because there's nothing else.
jordan holmes
It is a very heavy lifting metaphor.
Because there is no basis for it.
There's no connection for it whatsoever.
dan friesen
My friend, this is a load-bearing metaphor.
unidentified
That is so random!
dan friesen
Yep.
If you notice that, then the whole rest of this thing kind of doesn't make a lot of sense.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, honestly, I really was trying to come up with a metaphor that was less associated with the thing that I was trying to...
And I was like, oh, it's like a wave.
No, that's still related to the thing that I'm trying to...
I can't poorly metaphor bad enough to do this.
dan friesen
Well...
jordan holmes
That's amazing.
dan friesen
I'm sorry that you have been bested.
unidentified
I don't have the skill.
jordan holmes
I don't have the skill.
I have been defeated in a contest of words.
dan friesen
All right, so we're Rice.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Right?
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And then there's like this vibration that's happening.
jordan holmes
The Earth's vibration.
dan friesen
Right.
And we're in a pattern.
That's true.
But then, when the pattern changes, we're on our way to another pattern, but sometimes there's chaos in between the vibrations.
Because like the rice will go jump around until they get into their formation.
jordan holmes
Wait, isn't it all just one pattern though?
dan friesen
What are you talking about?
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, if we can't go from one pattern to another pattern, that's all one big pattern.
That's just another aspect of the pattern.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
There's an overarching pattern.
unidentified
B-flat is played.
dan friesen
And then this picture is made in the sand.
Then it switches to C-sharp.
And it's a different pattern.
And in between those two, there's chaos.
Because the rice...
It's not in a pattern.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
There is no connecting between these.
They're not part of a pattern.
They're discrete and separate patterns.
Anyway, here's...
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
jacob chansley
When you look at, like, a...
The cymatic patterns and when they change, when they have a phase transition from, say, a low frequency to a high frequency, what ends up happening is that in between that phase transition, in between one frequency and another, as the frequency changes, there's a period of chaos where there is no discernible pattern whatsoever.
And then all of a sudden, boom, the pattern then re-emerges, a new pattern emerges.
So this is why...
We are living through the time that we are living in because we are kind of moving through this phase transition period where we are moving into a new frequency because we have just gone from the age of Pisces into the age of Aquarius.
alex jones
And I want to be clear here, Jake, I want to be clear to just say I am a Christian, Holy Spirit, God, but God made the universe and made all these energies, and then the mainline churches don't want people to know about these energies, and that goes into the Masons and other groups that have been suppressing this information while claiming That they are bringing forward the light, but really they're bringing forth in my research a false light.
This is really proof of God's handiwork in the universe.
The signature is everywhere.
dan friesen
The Masons don't want you to know about sand on a vibration pattern thing.
jordan holmes
I would almost appreciate it more if Alex had just turned and been like...
Listen, I'm going to make it okay for you to say weird or wild or shit to my extremely Christian audience.
Yeah.
dan friesen
No, that is exactly what that was.
jordan holmes
Yeah, just say it open honestly.
Just be like, hey, everybody, just chill out.
None of this is real.
dan friesen
This isn't Satan stuff.
It's fine.
jordan holmes
It's fine.
This isn't evil or whatever.
Or just throw it on top of the pile.
What is it?
What is it going to make things weird?
dan friesen
Look, calm down.
I think I can make some money off this dumbass.
jordan holmes
The most transparently obvious, like, hey everybody, I know I say a lot of shit, he says a lot of shit, it doesn't matter.
dan friesen
I'm a reactionary weirdo and I call everybody devil worshippers and pedophiles, but this guy's cool.
I see a couple dollar signs here.
jordan holmes
I mean, that is, it's absurd how little it takes to be like, this man worships the devil!
This man is evil!
He went out and he ordered a half of a fried steak!
A half of a fried steak!
That man is the devil!
dan friesen
At this point, you could just support gay people, and you worship the devil now.
unidentified
Oh, totally.
jordan holmes
100%.
dan friesen
So this is where we're at.
jordan holmes
But this is fun.
We're moving from the age of Pisces to the age of I am now a devil worshipper, and we're all devil worshippers here.
dan friesen
Well, wasn't that song from the 70s, the dawning of the age of Aquarius?
How long have we been entering the age of Aquarius?
jordan holmes
It's been a long time.
dan friesen
I don't know anything about these ages, but I thought we did that a long time ago.
jordan holmes
Here's the fun thing about a phase transition for new age people.
dan friesen
We are literally always and never happening.
Yeah, the 2012 was a big one.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep.
Any movement from anywhere to anywhere is a transition.
dan friesen
True.
Patterns.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
But I think this is fun.
jordan holmes
I mean, I'm having a great time.
dan friesen
At least visually, I kind of get it, what he's saying, you know, with the plate.
Because if you do watch it between frequencies, it is just a jumble of sand on there, and then it takes its shape whenever the sound solidifies, or whenever it stays on the frequency.
jordan holmes
Right, but what you understand, though, is that it is always just a jumble of sand, and it is you ascribing a meaning to the jumble.
That gives it a quote-unquote pattern.
The pattern itself doesn't exist.
You are creating it by looking at it.
dan friesen
What sort of shaman are you?
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
You got me beat on that one.
I am no shaman.
dan friesen
I just saw defeat in your eyes.
jordan holmes
I was like, well...
dan friesen
Did you feel your DNA tightening?
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
I felt like, you know what?
I'm not a shaman.
I genuinely had a moment.
I was like, you know what?
You're right.
You're right, Dan.
dan friesen
You're better for it.
You're better for it.
So they start talking about the Saturnian cube.
jordan holmes
Okay, sure.
dan friesen
Something about shapes on Saturn.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
I love it.
dan friesen
I guess it involves the devil.
jordan holmes
Right.
jacob chansley
Yes, and that's where we get into the Saturnian cube, and that's why we see all these cubes and stuff and corporate logos and things of that nature.
Now, what's really interesting about that is that it's been discovered that...
Yeah, see, there it is.
It's been discovered that when a human being looks at a pattern, what ends up happening is the multidimensional neurological structure within the brain because our brain has several dimensions of neurological connections.
The multidimensional neurological structure in the brain actually mirrors the symbol that people are looking at.
So if we're all looking at cubes or we're all looking at the evil eye of Saturn, not like in the CVS logo or something like that, then those patterns are going to manifest in our psyche and in one way or another affect our subconscious brain and therefore our conscious perception.
alex jones
I was about to ask you, why are the dark magicians suppressing this and why are they obsessed with the cube of Saturn?
jacob chansley
Well, actually, I was just about to get into that.
dan friesen
Oh, exciting.
The dark cube of Saturn.
jordan holmes
I was wondering if he was going to get into why the dark magicians are suppressing this.
Thankfully, he's already answered that question.
dan friesen
But he doesn't really get into it, why the dark magicians are suppressing this.
But they're also not suppressing it, because apparently they're flaunting it everywhere.
jordan holmes
It does appear that it's...
dan friesen
And apparently looking at logos make you do bad things and have bad thoughts.
Actually, that's kind of fair, because whenever I see that CBS logo, I think, ah, fuck this.
And that's just because I'm watching another episode of Survivor and I don't really like it anymore.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
So I'm frustrated.
More at myself.
It's not the logo.
jordan holmes
I mean, the logos are created with the intent of harm.
dan friesen
Psychic harm?
Multidimensional psychic harm?
jordan holmes
Yes, obviously!
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Have you not been in any corporate meetings?
Every rebrand has a vice president in harm.
dan friesen
I understand that graphic design and a lot of that stuff is meant to capture attention.
jordan holmes
Sure, they have psychologists and stuff like that.
I get that, but not like, you know, Saturn in cubes.
dan friesen
Saturnian cube!
jordan holmes
Saturnian cube!
dan friesen
What does the gelatinous cube do?
jordan holmes
I believe in Dungeons& Dragons, if you're in a dungeon, and you're walking forward, then you walk into a gelatinous cube, and it digests you over time.
dan friesen
But looking at it doesn't make you think bad thoughts.
jordan holmes
No!
Well, I mean, it makes you think, ah, watch out for that guy!
That guy is being dissolved in a gelatinous cube!
Oh, no!
dan friesen
Does gelatinous cube have free will?
jordan holmes
Do any of us?
dan friesen
Maybe he answers that in the next clip.
jacob chansley
Right, now let's go back to this notion of what you were saying about the double slit experiment and the power of manifestation and the observer effect.
People like Klaus Schwab want everybody to believe that in the future we're all going to wear uniforms, we're all going to live in 15-minute cities, that we're all going to own nothing and like it, and everybody's going to eat bugs.
Right?
What he and all these globalists are doing, especially through the propaganda campaign.
alex jones
They're creating a false Oberton window of you'll own nothing, have nothing, eat bugs, drink sewage, and wear uniforms, and you'll no longer have your own home or have a car to create the idea of a dystopic to enter it into our minds that it's a foregone conclusion because we actually manifest what we build and what we believe made the image of God.
So they begin to enslave our mind to believe that dystopia and not believe and build Something far better.
dan friesen
Real quick.
The Overton window idea that he's bringing up there, he's using it wrong.
Because the Overton window explanation that he should have is that Klaus Schwab wants you to wear uniforms, eat bugs, live in a tiny apartment in order to make it acceptable, like for you to volley back.
Like, no, I will not eat bugs, but I will drive less.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's a negotiating tactic.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
I think he's using this wrong.
jordan holmes
What you're not understanding is that the Overton window is actually where you climb out of the window and bring the world's politics with you and jump.
And you go, ah, we're the left now!
dan friesen
Yeah, and if we're talking Overton window, Alex thinks that...
Every gay person worships Satan.
So he's doing quite a bit of pushing on that himself.
jordan holmes
There's a lot of work there.
alex jones
I said this over and over again in my new book, The Great Awakening.
We can't.
It's coming out soon.
unidentified
No.
alex jones
We can't just attack their system.
We have to build the alternative.
jacob chansley
100% correct.
And the only way we can do that is through nonviolence.
The only way we can do that is through basically making our old system of full-spectrum dominance completely obsolete.
So let's talk about this.
alex jones
Well, let's go back to Claude Schwab.
I interrupted.
Finish your point in your own words.
I know I wanted to not show off that I knew the answer, but to show that we're on the same page, that's because it's inherent, you know, prima facie, a truth.
Go back to what Schwab wants us to believe.
jacob chansley
Well, but you made the point for me, and that is that he is trying to inform or form in our minds his view of reality so that they can hijack our creative abilities, so they can hijack our observer effect.
He's trying to put in our minds his view of the future that he wants.
And in the process, you've got a lot of people that are reacting based on emotion and really upset about this idea.
But in a sense, by reacting through anger and being upset, you're already reinforcing his view of reality, what we should be doing.
Is laughing our asses off at this guy.
dan friesen
Do it.
Who cares?
So, I think it's fun.
He's trying to hijack your observer effect.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's cool.
Yeah.
Yeah, I just get so excited when someone breaks down a word like that.
They're trying to inform, form in your mind.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That just gets me going.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's the only reason I like Gary Busey.
He would do that all the time.
Other than that, not a fan.
jordan holmes
I get that, yeah.
dan friesen
But yeah, he was the king of doing that.
jordan holmes
He really was.
He really had a gift for that.
dan friesen
Yeah, creating your own definitions for words.
jordan holmes
Any compound word, tear it apart, turn it into two different words, make it a different word.
dan friesen
And because the shaman did that in that clip, I really thought when he said re-acting, he was going to do it again.
jordan holmes
Yeah, acting re.
Acting re.
dan friesen
Acting re.
jordan holmes
Meaning acting again, or acting for a purpose.
dan friesen
Subject line of an email.
Email, electronic mail.
jordan holmes
Oh!
Mail?
unidentified
Transhuman.
jordan holmes
That's what's under attack because of the electronics.
dan friesen
We all send emails.
jordan holmes
Electronic mail!
Yeah, exactly.
That's a robot.
Cyborgs.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes
They're trying to turn us into cyborgs.
We figured it all out.
God damn it.
I hate...
When he started talking, I wanted to be like, excuse me, sir, you need to leave the room now.
That's just a part of me.
You're just like, uh, form in!
Excuse me, sir.
You're gonna need to be away from me for the next little bit.
dan friesen
That's fine, I'll be in the other room and I'll be like, let's talk words, buddy.
jordan holmes
Because I want more.
dan friesen
So are you ready?
jordan holmes
Yeah, let's do it.
jacob chansley
All of our Capitol buildings...
Here in the United States and probably all over the world, but especially in Washington, D.C., but all of the Capitol buildings in the United States are all built on electromagnetic ley lines.
These are electromagnetic lines that are on the Earth.
They run over the surface of the Earth.
They're a manifestation of the electromagnetic field that surrounds the planet, as well as going all the way down to the core of the planet.
So where these things crisscross on the planet itself, where it is that they intersect, this is where we see things like pyramids, obelisks, ancient temples, and our modern cities like the Vatican or the London Palace or Washington, D.C. What is it that these people are doing in these buildings?
What they are doing is they are using words or code to create law.
Now, the law is telling us what we can buy, what we can sell, what is legal, what is illegal.
Now, think about that for a second.
That's going to end up affecting what?
Our thoughts, our emotions, and our behavior.
So in this way, because these Less Than One Percenters have used not only lawfare, but also these buildings that are built on the electromagnetic ley lines of the planet, they are essentially using these buildings almost like they're circuits in a machine to control and affect our collective consciousness, to control and affect our thoughts and our emotions.
Our hearts.
Our minds.
And therefore, in one way or another, kind of attempting to enslave our very soul.
unidentified
Sure.
jacob chansley
Now, let's talk really quick about how a computer works.
jordan holmes
Let's not.
unidentified
Let's skip that.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
You shut the fuck up now.
dan friesen
It involves ones and zeros.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you shut the fuck up.
You shut up now!
dan friesen
I think that as a rule, moving forward in my life.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I am not going to trust anyone who uses the word lawfare casually.
jordan holmes
I genuinely wrote down...
dan friesen
I think I've only heard people who are a little suspect use it.
jordan holmes
I mean, also, here's my problem.
Oh, exciting.
With your bullshit.
dan friesen
Mine?
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
The Q shaman's bullshit.
dan friesen
To be fair, I'm bringing it to you.
jordan holmes
All right.
If you are...
Going to talk to me about the electromagnetic energy of a planet and a field surrounding us, going down through the core.
dan friesen
Freak out.
jordan holmes
Planet's big.
It's a big thing.
dan friesen
So big.
It's huge!
jordan holmes
Space, also big.
I really feel like on equal footing with planetary electromagnetic fields should not be lawfare.
dan friesen
Lawfare, man.
jordan holmes
It shouldn't be like, okay, well we gotta use the entire electromagnetic field of the planet.
And, of course, we need to file a motion to use that.
dan friesen
But the lawfare is using words, which are sound, which is vibration, and they're using it to do dark magic in our brain computers.
jordan holmes
Sir, you are going to need to leave this room.
dan friesen
Also, you know about ley lines, right?
jordan holmes
I do know about ley lines.
dan friesen
You know how they were made?
Some guy just connected things like ancient sites.
That's why the ancient sites are all on ley lines.
jordan holmes
Because they drew a bunch of lines to the ancient sites.
dan friesen
It's not because there's magical electromagnetism like on Lost.
jordan holmes
No, it's because there's magical electromagnetism.
No, it's because they drew them.
They drew them because they discovered them.
You drew a map, but you didn't create the Earth as you drew the map.
dan friesen
Yeah, no, I mean, technically they're there in as much as someone invented them.
Yes.
Yeah, but not in any meaningful way.
jordan holmes
No, well, that is where the rub falls apart, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, it started like in the early 1900s.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's not really...
It doesn't have any meaning outside of that, really.
jordan holmes
You know, it is a weird thing how, as much as I love Carl Sagan, I love Neil deGrasse Tyson, I love learning science.
I love having science brought to the people.
This isn't that.
They shouldn't have done it.
They shouldn't have done it, because then they got concepts that would have made sense to other people down into a place where it shouldn't be happening.
dan friesen
No, I disagree with you, because you're one step away from turning education back into a privilege thing.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
Keep information away from the masses.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
I'm just saying that we need to keep the two slits experiment references to a minimum.
dan friesen
Are you trying to hijack their observer effect?
jordan holmes
Absolutely I am trying to hijack their observer effect.
That's what I am trying to do.
I want no more observer effect from you people.
dan friesen
Also, all of the state capitals are not on lay lines.
jordan holmes
Of course they're not on lay lines!
What kind of a...
That over the span of so long with so many people without everyone already knowing that they're on ley lines.
dan friesen
Also, a couple times, you know, capitals have moved.
So many times!
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Wait, okay, so...
dan friesen
Also, for 50 states.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
For all of our 50 states.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
In order for all of them to be on ley lines, there would have to be so many ley lines that it wouldn't mean anything to be on one.
We could be on one right now.
jordan holmes
We probably are.
So, Springfield?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Ley line.
Has to be.
Kankakee, also a capital, has to be.
Former capital of Illinois.
dan friesen
What?
This is how I learn?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Damn.
jordan holmes
Has to be on a ley line.
dan friesen
Jeff City, Missouri?
jordan holmes
Totally.
Absolutely on a ley line.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
But that one makes sense because Jefferson Davis...
Actually founded that town.
dan friesen
No, Thomas Jefferson City.
unidentified
Oh, well.
dan friesen
I'm not sure.
unidentified
I'm hoping.
jordan holmes
Could go either way.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Could go either way.
dan friesen
Also, I mean, I've been to Jeff City.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Jefferson City, Missouri.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Thanks for clearing that up.
dan friesen
If being on a way line means anything positive, Jefferson City is a counterexample of that because that place is a dump.
Sorry, Jeff City.
jordan holmes
I mean, Chicago should be on a ley line.
dan friesen
Hell yeah, we're a great city.
jordan holmes
We have to be on a ley line, right?
dan friesen
Better than Springfield.
jordan holmes
But we're not a capital.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
And we never were.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
And never will be.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, eventually we'll be a city-state after the rest of the country has collapsed.
dan friesen
You know, there is that dynamic in a lot of, I would say, almost all states even.
Not all of them, but the city that is the most prosperous and the biggest city is not always the capital.
It's almost, you know, in many cases.
jordan holmes
It's not.
dan friesen
Most cases.
Everyone thinks the capital of Missouri is St. Louis.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Well, I mean, it's why D.C. and Hollywood are two different things, you know?
People who have actual government power don't want to be in the bright lights.
dan friesen
They don't want to be in L.A. They want to be in Sacramento.
jordan holmes
They want to be elsewhere where they can control things.
dan friesen
Are they in Sacramento?
Is that right?
Is that the capital of California?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Pretty sure.
dan friesen
What a relief.
jordan holmes
Now, you can't say something like that, because the thing that I would have known so confidently just five seconds ago, now I'm like, is it the capital?
dan friesen
Maybe they're all on ley lines, man.
We've got to rethink everything.
jordan holmes
Maybe that's why we can't remember them all the time.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
jordan holmes
Oh, fuck.
That's what they did.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, the shaman, true to his shamanic name, speaks poorly of money.
Alex is not thrilled about this, so he has to set him straight that money is pretty cool.
jordan holmes
Money's great.
jacob chansley
An enlightened person is not a profitable person because guess what?
They don't care about material possessions.
They care about spiritual wealth.
jordan holmes
Where'd you read this?
The Bible?
jacob chansley
So if you don't care about making a dollar, but you do care about making a difference, then it's really hard for these less than one percenters to control you.
And that's why I have taken the position that I have on this notion of monetary gain regarding a lot of things in my life.
Because if you put money first as opposed to God first, then you end up worshiping the wrong master.
alex jones
Well, look, I totally agree with you, but I want to talk about balance to this.
This is really an important point that I never get into.
I never even cared about money until I realized it was a symbol of energy to be able to do what I want.
But if I can be controlled as if it is the highest thing on my hierarchy of needs, and then I'll just simply sell out for that.
Then it's a bad thing.
But if I don't sell out, do the right thing, and then accumulate wealth to help others and build up systems outside the enemy, because they want to keep us poor and control us.
Then that puts the physical third dimension together with the higher dimensions, and now we can basically do anything.
You can't just like Oprah Winfrey, imagine something and then manifest a nuclear reactor or manifest a jet airplane or manifest a Beethoven symphony.
There's got to be a lot that his ancestors, his training, the building, his connection, becoming deaf, then going to the next level of actually hearing.
Vibrationally, to then take it to another dimension.
So there's got to be all the pieces there, but then we have the pieces now and are at this historic jump point.
So do you get my point about we shouldn't run from resources?
We should create our own systems and develop resources, not for the worship of resources, but for the use of them in building a better world.
jacob chansley
Absolutely, and that's why I advocate so heavily for Tesla Tower technology and Dr. Wright and his machine.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
What?
Why are you confused?
jordan holmes
Alright.
Fine.
Fine.
That's of course why he advocates so highly for Tesla Tower machines.
dan friesen
You have lost.
Jordan, you gave up.
jordan holmes
I just saw it.
dan friesen
I saw it in your face.
jordan holmes
I just don't understand how he can be like, oh, I don't actually care about money, then listen to Alex do that thing and be like, yeah, of course, that's why I love money.
dan friesen
It's been too long since we've done a Wacky Wednesday thing, because I think you've lost your tolerance for...
jordan holmes
I just...
You know, it's more fun when there's actual aliens.
dan friesen
That's true, but I think this guy might believe in actual aliens.
jordan holmes
See, you gotta get in there.
dan friesen
Maybe on their next interview they'll get into the actual aliens.
jordan holmes
New Age stuff doesn't tickle my fancy as much.
It just doesn't tickle my fancy.
dan friesen
Also, do you like the distinction that Alex makes between making money is good because I can do the things I want to do?
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
You want to make money, because then you can do whatever you want.
dan friesen
Right.
And then I can tell myself that I'm doing all of those things that I want to do for the sake of creating a better world.
And then I can get around this whole thing where I don't actually lust for money.
Also, please buy my overpriced series of silver coins.
jordan holmes
Let's return back to...
Hey, listen, you're going to hear some weird shit out of this guy, but it's okay for him to say new age weirdo nonsense because, you know, no big deal.
Also, nothing from the Bible, not allowed.
No, please don't do that.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's absolutely not cool for you to shit on money.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
What are you doing?
Oh, man.
dan friesen
So this next clip, I'm pretty excited about.
Because as you know, I'm a fan of thinking about Atlantis.
jordan holmes
You do love a good Atlantis.
dan friesen
And here is a conversation between two idiots about Atlantis.
alex jones
Plato, who most of what he said has been found to be true, he was a father and historian, the father of it.
He said Atlantis was real and they had towers and a power that let flying machines go everywhere, but it blew up.
From your deep research, what do you think?
Did Atlantis exist or was it a psychic peeing into the future that we're building in Atlantis that's dangerous?
unidentified
Thank you.
Thank you.
jacob chansley
No, what I think happened with Atlantis, and if you look into the work of Graham Hancock and his book, Magicians of the Gods, and all of his other research, then you will find that out in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean and out in the middle of the Pacific Ocean during the ice age, because there was so much ice and water up near the North Pole, there was so much...
More land exposed.
And when a comet broke up in outer space and smashed into the ice sheet, it created literally oceans worth of water, not just dumping all over the surface of the planet, but also shooting millions upon millions of gallons of not just water, but soot and mud up into the upper atmosphere.
And this is where we get into things like black rain and stuff like that.
Now, the reason why I think this happened is because...
Atlantis was almost like at the end of a golden age of sorts.
It was when all this sacred knowledge began to become perverted.
So they understood the ley lines.
They understood the power of thought and emotion.
They understood the power and the role of energy, frequency, and vibration in human civilization.
And they created a society that was based on embodying this divine truth.
But eventually what ended up happening is that it became...
It fell to priestcraft.
And then they started doing things like child and human sacrifice.
I don't think this is in Graham Hancock's book, but this is my contention.
This is what I've come to believe.
That they ended up doing things like child and human sacrifice at these sacred sites, at these pyramids, on the ley lines.
And they were doing it so heavily that it ended up creating such a low frequency state of fear and pain and suffering on the planet.
Their karma came back to bite him in the ass.
And this comet slammed into the ice sheet and just wiped everything clean.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
So that's what happened to Atlantis, according to The Shaman.
jordan holmes
I mean, alright.
dan friesen
Based on...
Literally nothing.
Even by his own admission, based on nothing.
jordan holmes
That's kind of the thing that amazes me.
I'm amazed with the confidence that he said what I have come to believe and my contention is they have done human sacrifice.
Too much.
Based on nothing.
Like zero.
Like literally nothing.
dan friesen
What you don't know.
Is that the Q Shaman led a very courageous team of underwater archaeologists.
jordan holmes
Oh, did he?
dan friesen
And they found Atlantis.
jordan holmes
Starring Michael J. Fox.
dan friesen
And they found...
Well, actually, on the dive team, Jesse Ventura was in charge of...
Because, you know, he was part of the underwater demolitions.
alex jones
I'm gonna get to the bottom of this shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he's just brave.
jordan holmes
He's very brave.
dan friesen
So they took an expedition down and they found human remains in the form of human sacrifices.
And there was a barrel that...
jordan holmes
Q, you're...
Contention appears to be correct.
dan friesen
They found a barrel that was like, it had a line on it, and it was like, just enough human sacrifices.
But there were a couple bones over that.
jordan holmes
Too many.
dan friesen
That's why the comet hit.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
You gotta pay attention to those barrel lines.
dan friesen
Barrel line, more important than lay line.
jordan holmes
Barrel line is, I mean, the undoing of so many great civilizations of the past.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Ooh, we went over the line!
dan friesen
Yep.
Yeah, he has archaeological evidence that backs up his contention of what happened to Atlantis there.
unidentified
That is a strong, delusional...
jordan holmes
I don't think I have that.
I don't have that in me to just be like, hey, you know what?
I'm 100% confident they did human sacrifices at this place that didn't exist, never did, and never will.
dan friesen
And created bad karma and led to a comic in the earth.
jordan holmes
Totally, totally.
100% certain.
dan friesen
Wow, that's shocking, Jordan.
I imagine you're also not the kind of person who has the confidence to wear a ridiculous outfit and invade the Capitol.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
Actually, no.
I would go the other direction on that.
dan friesen
I don't think so.
jordan holmes
I am more likely to wear a ridiculous outfit and run the Capitol than I am to...
dan friesen
I agree that you're more likely to do that, but I think that you're very unlikely to do either.
jordan holmes
I'm unlikely to do either, but there is one that is more and the one that is less likely.
dan friesen
And I would also say that it is unsurprising that a person who would do one is capable of the other.
jordan holmes
That is true.
That is true.
dan friesen
Maybe they come from a very similar place in the brain.
jordan holmes
That is true.
That's true.
dan friesen
So, this next clip I just thought was fascinating.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because Alex, I think, is revealing something that has puzzled us for a long time.
jacob chansley
This comet slammed into the ice sheet and just wiped everything clean.
And we are like the inheritors of this lost civilization.
That's why we look around us and we see all these massive buildings, like the pyramids, like not just in Egypt, but like in China or in Boston.
alex jones
I mean, they're everywhere.
And also, we have an epigenetic memory.
When we see all the technology or see science fiction, it seems like we're home.
It's like, well, I know this.
jacob chansley
Yes.
dan friesen
I don't feel that way.
When I see technology in science fiction movies, I don't feel like I'm at home.
jordan holmes
Oh, I'm home.
dan friesen
Alex thinks that he has epigenetic memories from lost civilizations that had sci-fi technology.
And that's why sci-fi movies that he sees are real to him.
jordan holmes
Now, I'm going to throw this out at you.
Dreams, maybe?
Sci-fi writers and such are of their time.
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
By all accounts to be about the future.
Or perhaps the past.
A very, very long time ago.
It is actually about the present.
And things are very familiar to you because that is what you can imagine.
The present.
dan friesen
Yeah.
That is a dynamic in science fiction.
It takes a very unique...
And rare writer to imagine things completely outside of the time that they're alive.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Or from the past.
I guess they could, you know...
jordan holmes
No, the best most of us can do is uncanny.
You know, where you're like, oh, this is so similar, but it's almost discomforting.
dan friesen
Right.
Philip K. Dick had a lot of that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, loved it.
Loved the uncanny.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I just, I think, I think that...
This is the way that Alex understands his bizarre relationship with science fiction.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it has to be.
dan friesen
It's my past memories.
jordan holmes
It's the past.
No, and not just that.
It is my past memories, and I am also the past of somebody else's memories who I am also seeing from the future as well.
dan friesen
But then these science fiction movies are also the globalists' plans.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
How do you walk around with this much bullshit in your head?
dan friesen
You have to have a broad audience that is willing to give you a lot of money to not make sense.
And then it's totally fine.
jordan holmes
But...
But, like, ugh.
dan friesen
He is such a walking case study for why that old saying that, like, tell the truth and you'll never have to worry a day in your life.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It is not true.
jordan holmes
You are so wrong.
dan friesen
You can lie like crazy.
unidentified
You are so wrong.
dan friesen
All you need is a ton of money and a slightly charismatic personality and no shame.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
I mean, listening to this Q Shaman guy, like, listening to him talk, there's a part of me where you go, oh, yeah, we're trying to get rid of money.
Oh, man, you are going to try and make so much fucking money off of people.
dan friesen
He charges for courses on his website.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was gonna say, like, oh, we don't give a shit about money.
You are trying to make so much fucking money.
dan friesen
Yeah, you're at the beginning of an elaborate scam that you're hoping to build.
You understand what I'm saying, though, too.
Like, he's ready for this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, he feels it.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's got these little, you know, he throws in Tesla machines here.
jordan holmes
No, it's almost, it's fucking borderline blow-type shit.
dan friesen
I have a strong contention about Atlantis and what happened to it.
It's good.
jordan holmes
No, he's...
We did blow.
He went into the joint wearing Q shit and he came out of the joint fucking Tucker Carlson.
dan friesen
Oh, you're talking about the movie Blow.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So the elites, they don't want you to know any of this shit.
jordan holmes
Dark magicians.
jacob chansley
The truth about reality and the spiritual nature to our existence has been known for millennia.
But it has been kept to a very tightly knit group of quote-unquote elite families or royal families and bloodlines.
And this is the knowledge that they are trying to keep from dispensing to the public.
These are the floodgates they're trying to hold back because coming back to this idea of collective consciousness and energy frequency and vibration, once this knowledge makes its way into the collective consciousness stream, then the death matrix dissolves.
That there's nothing that they can do.
Nothing can stop what's coming.
It's like a global flood of sorts, except it's like what Jesus said about the wisdom of God will fill the land as water fills the sea.
The lion will lie down with the lamb and there will be no more killing or destroying.
And that is, I think, what he saw.
He saw the future, man.
You know, and I believe that is coming.
I believe we are creating a new heaven on earth as we speak.
This is the most exciting time we possibly could have picked to be alive.
The ancients pointed to this time as like, I want to be alive.
I want to see what's going to happen there.
jordan holmes
That would be really fucking exciting.
jacob chansley
Because we're coming out of this very dark night of the collective soul and into a collective awakening.
Into an awakening to all this stuff that has been suppressed for millennia and has been kept for a very specific group of families.
And that's why they go after people that are exposing these truths.
alex jones
Keep going.
dan friesen
Keep going, man.
I ain't got shit.
alex jones
Yep.
jordan holmes
Let it ride.
dan friesen
So, like, if the elites are trying to keep this information to themselves...
Then why is this entire interview that he's done just a cookie-cutter, paint-by-numbers ass, just the same form letter you get from any New Age guru?
Like, if this was the information the elites wanted to keep to themselves, and it's centuries, millennia long, they've been trying to enslave the minds of everyone by not letting this out, no one would be talking about it, let alone the fucking Q Shaman and every other elevated mind con man that has ever been around.
This is ridiculous.
Oh, this is so...
No secret, except it's on every blog, every Angel Fire page with a weird sparkly background.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Come on, man.
jordan holmes
I'm gonna throw this out at you.
dan friesen
Please.
jordan holmes
You can no longer keep it to such a tight-knit group if every Capitol building in the United States is built on a ley light.
unidentified
Do you think the people in those buildings know that, though?
No!
jordan holmes
I don't care!
There are so many of them.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
There are so many of them, which means there are so many.
You have to have at least one contractor who knows, for sure.
dan friesen
Well, they're dead now.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, but then you have to get a new contractor because they keep making more capital buildings.
dan friesen
Nah.
I mean, you just kill all of them.
jordan holmes
Okay, so Hawaii became a state in the 50s, right?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
So did the capital building, while Hawaii was a U.S. territory, Do you know what I...
dan friesen
Right.
And what's Lilio Kalani's palace?
jordan holmes
Yeah, and what's the palace on a ley line?
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
Oh, did they know in advance?
dan friesen
There were multiple ley lines.
jordan holmes
There's a lot of ley lines.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's so many of them.
jordan holmes
Who cares?
dan friesen
You move the capital to Molokai, it doesn't matter.
There's the ley line for that, too.
jordan holmes
See, that's the thing, man.
There's so many...
Fucking ley lines!
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
It doesn't mean anything.
jordan holmes
That's disappointing.
dan friesen
Well, it turns out none of this means anything.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's actually kind of reassuring.
dan friesen
But it's all so secret.
jordan holmes
It's very comforting.
dan friesen
The elites don't want you to know.
jordan holmes
Oh, man, I hate...
There's so many things the elites don't want me to know that I know.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, Alex's whole show is forbidden information.
jordan holmes
It seems like at a certain point I would know too many of the things that I'm not supposed to know.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think you're there.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think you've crossed that line.
unidentified
Shouldn't we?
dan friesen
That ley line.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's crossed that barrel line.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, we're sitting on top of one.
dan friesen
So, this was fun.
Okay, so we're about to get into some stuff that I don't think Alex has ever talked about before.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But apparently he believes.
Which is that...
We'll get to it.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Keep going.
jacob chansley
Okay, sure.
So, look at it like this.
unidentified
Hmm?
If...
jacob chansley
Human beings are the grains of rice on the speaker, and the electromagnetic field around the Earth is the speaker.
I mean, it is the frequency of the speaker.
Then that electromagnetic field around the Earth is actually connected to all of the planets in the solar system.
dan friesen
Now, what if we're not?
jordan holmes
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
No, no, no.
That's not posited as a...
Exclude that from your mind.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
That's not posited as a part of this possibility.
Exclude that.
dan friesen
That if...
That if was not an if.
jordan holmes
It doesn't feel like that was given a fair shake.
alex jones
Nope.
dan friesen
This is a conclusion, not a conditional statement.
jacob chansley
And the electromagnetic field of the sun.
Now, this comes into this idea of Saturn.
And Saturn is a very strong presence, though it is not the strongest presence in the solar system, but it is a very strong presence.
The sun?
alex jones
Jupiter?
jordan holmes
Planet X?
jacob chansley
Right?
We have been...
Inundated with symbols for Saturn.
And based on this idea of what I was saying before about the multidimensional nature to our consciousness, what they are attempting to do is they are attempting to use the cymatic frequency of Saturn, almost like a metaphysical prison wall.
To confine our minds, to confine our souls, and in one way or another affect the frequency of planet Earth.
Because as we are all tuned into the Saturnian frequency, we are actually feeding the Saturnian frequency with our hearts and with our minds.
And if these people that worship Saturn are the ones in control of the legal system, they're the ones that are creating all this parasitism, dominance, war, predation, chaos, famine, disease, etc., then they believe.
Satanists or Saturnists, these Saturnists, they believe that all of that pain, chaos, death, suffering, disease, famine, all of that is going to Saturn.
It's all going to feed Satan.
Okay?
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
So let's blow up Saturn.
dan friesen
Did that just blow your mind, though?
jordan holmes
I mean, honestly, I don't care if it's true or not.
What I know is we need to kill Saturn.
unidentified
Right?
jordan holmes
That's what needs to happen.
dan friesen
It's clearly the enemy.
jordan holmes
Once Saturn's gone, they won't have shit to worship.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
And then they'll just stop bothering us.
dan friesen
Or they can worship, like...
Memories of Saturn, but then the planet's gone.
jordan holmes
No, you can't worship memories of Saturn.
dan friesen
Have you seen the cube?
jordan holmes
We destroyed Saturn!
dan friesen
But you could still have the cube.
jordan holmes
We have dominated Saturn so much that it's gone now.
Right.
Gas giant?
More like, get out of here, giant.
dan friesen
But the U.S. declared independence, and England's still there.
jordan holmes
We gotta destroy England, too.
dan friesen
England, do us a favor.
Destroy Saturn.
jordan holmes
Destroy Saturn.
Yeah, or at least both of you kill each other in the war for Saturn.
dan friesen
Look, I know that Saturn and Satan sound similar.
jordan holmes
I mean, that does seem like all we really had to go on here.
dan friesen
Another weak metaphor.
jordan holmes
We had a tiny little bit of homophone-esque behavior.
dan friesen
So the name Saturn comes from the name Saturnus, which was the Roman god of agriculture, whose name was likely derived from an early verb for sowing.
Many people believe it comes from the Etruscan.
Conversely, the etymological roots of the name Satan go back to Hebrew and the noun Satan, which translates to adversary or one who plots against another.
Most of the names of Satan have that kind of root to it, like Diablo comes from the Greek Dialabos, which means slanderer.
I know it's an easy trick to blow people's minds or at least confuse them long enough so they don't realize you're not making a point, but words sounding similar isn't enough to make them mean the same thing.
jordan holmes
I know, but it is fun.
dan friesen
It is fun.
jordan holmes
It's so fun.
unidentified
It is.
jordan holmes
There's something fun about it.
Even for me, who hates it so much?
There's a little bit of a, ah, isn't that fun?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I hate them.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I hate them.
dan friesen
Breaking down words and doing stuff like this is like...
jordan holmes
Form in Satan!
Right.
dan friesen
I enjoy this, and that's kind of some of the...
Pleasure that was gone from Project Camelot episodes.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so that's why I appreciate a little bit of this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I like it.
dan friesen
So anyway.
jordan holmes
Couldn't just be like, oh, we can't see.
We couldn't see further than Saturn for like a long time.
Like most of the time that humans have been.
dan friesen
And it had rings.
jordan holmes
It's so cool.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's a cool look at.
dan friesen
So.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
The bad guys.
jordan holmes
What about them?
Saturnists.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Satan worshippers.
dan friesen
So they've created all of the courthouses on the ley lines.
Naturally.
Where they do their black magic in the form of words.
Words, codes.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
That become law.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
In order to create all this pain and death and all this.
And this feeds Saturn.
jordan holmes
And they got a bulwark on Saturn.
dan friesen
This feeds Saturn.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The planet.
The literal planet.
jordan holmes
Oh, the literal planet.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
I didn't think we were talking about the literal planet.
dan friesen
We are talking about the literal planet.
jordan holmes
We are talking about the literal planet, Saturn.
In a fifth element-esque scenario.
dan friesen
Did you hear him say that if we are the rice or sand, then that vibrational shit involves all the planets in the solar system.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And Saturn has its own frequency, which is this negative frequency that the ley line black magicians...
jordan holmes
So this is the fifth element.
dan friesen
Can I be honest with you?
You've never seen The Fifth Element?
jordan holmes
How dare you?
Sir?
dan friesen
I don't see a lot of movies.
jordan holmes
No, I understand, but The Fifth Element's great.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, that is a downside of me doing this podcast, is that there's probably a ton of references that I just don't even get, or things that Alex is mentioning that's like, this is clearly from a movie, and I don't get it.
I don't know.
Maybe I should be forced to watch a bunch of movies.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Okay.
So anyway, that was what this guy, the shaman, is saying.
Now here's Alex's rejoinder.
alex jones
And let's go forward with this.
The Romans worshipped Saturn and a bunch of other gods, but that was their basic Satan cult.
And if you study what the globalists think today, they believe the planets, especially the gas giants, are interdimensional portals to which they send the energy.
So they see Saturn not just as a god, but as a jump point.
jacob chansley
Yes.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
What?
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
Why?
unidentified
Why?
jordan holmes
Why would anybody see it like that?
Gas giants aren't even...
That's not even like a thing that gas giants might do.
dan friesen
Yes.
Dude, they're giants.
jordan holmes
No, I understand.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
So apparently the globalists worship gas giant planets.
jordan holmes
Because they're...
Portals to new dimensions?
dan friesen
Yes, and that's where you can send all this negative energy in order to praise and feed Satan.
jordan holmes
All right, now the burden of proof is no longer even on them.
It is on you.
You need to tell me what exactly it is that would lead them to this conclusion of any kind, any base.
I will take anything that would lead you to the conclusion that a gas giant like Saturn is somehow an interdimensional portal.
dan friesen
No.
Let me start by saying I didn't know this part of Alex's mythology until yesterday.
jordan holmes
I didn't know this was part of anyone's mythology.
dan friesen
So, to me, this is tough to actually figure out why.
But, as somebody who's listened to a ton of his show, and I think I know his mind decently well, here's what I think.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Solids.
jordan holmes
So we're starting there.
dan friesen
You can't pass through them.
jordan holmes
You can't pass through them.
Right.
dan friesen
Liquids, you can, but you might get caught in the middle.
jordan holmes
Could get caught.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Whereas gas, you can go right through.
So I think it's a jump point in as much as you could go through.
jordan holmes
Now I'm going to ask you this, and I think I know the answer.
Do you think that Alex believes that all of the gas giant is gas?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
I do too.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know what?
Yep.
Yes, I agree.
dan friesen
I think that that is what's going on.
If I had to say.
jordan holmes
You're right.
dan friesen
But again, there's not a lot.
And it doesn't...
Actually really feel like it connects to a lot of the stuff that he said before.
It's not like this is a season finale reveal that there were clues earlier on.
It is a little bit out of nowhere, and I think he doesn't actually believe it.
I think he's just talking to the Shaman.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
They seem to be talking about Saturn a whole bunch, and so why not?
jordan holmes
Why not throw that in there?
dan friesen
Yeah, but apparently, yeah, globalists worship gas giants.
It's something that now we have to add to the board.
jordan holmes
I'm fine with that.
I know that Alex doesn't believe it, but what I do think Alex does believe is that gas giants are made of gas.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think so too.
So here is something dumb.
jacob chansley
We as human beings have the capability to speak truth.
Now, if we're talking about like what we were talking about cymatics earlier.
Right?
If you want to affect the quantum entangled universe, if you want to affect the quantum realm, then the way to do so is through sound.
You can actually change the spin of not just your electromagnetic field, but therefore the spin of all the particles around you.
dan friesen
I have to stop him real quick.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
I get what he's saying.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, because there is this whole obsession with sound and it creates these patterns and stuff like this.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
But what you're saying...
Doesn't make a difference to the sound.
It's the pitch, right?
So you could lie in a high pitch or say the truth in a low pitch.
jordan holmes
The words themselves, again, they're not even words.
They're only words because we interpret them.
They're all just noises.
They're all just clickety-clackety noises.
dan friesen
So truth doesn't have a higher vibration in the sense that he's using that term.
jordan holmes
All clickety-clack noises all the time.
dan friesen
Yep, that's a problem for him.
Again, loose metaphor.
jacob chansley
Through harmonics, through sound.
So if you are speaking the truth, then that is very, very powerful, especially in a world that is living and swimming in lies.
So what does the old saying go?
During a time of mass deception, telling the truth is an act of revolution or something like that?
alex jones
In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
jacob chansley
Yeah, yeah, there you go.
Thank you.
alex jones
George Orwell.
unidentified
Exactly.
jacob chansley
And wouldn't it be nice to make 1984 fiction again?
alex jones
Yeah, they use it as a handbook.
jacob chansley
Oh yeah, it was meant to be a warning, not an instruction manual.
alex jones
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Good riff in.
Orwell didn't say that.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
This is yet another fake quote that these folks can't resist because it feels so good to say, and then they feel like big, truth-telling revolutionary boys.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
This passage has been misattributed to Orwell since at least 1982, when an author named Venturino Giorgio Venturini made this mistake in his book Partners in Ecocide, Australia's Complicity in the Uranium Cartel.
So that was the quote investigator.
That's the earliest misattribution they can find.
In reality, a much more likely root of this quotation is an article written by noted Marxist Antonio Gramsci, where he said, quote, to tell the truth, to arrive together at the truth, is a communist and revolutionary act.
So yeah, Alex again, co-opting the people that he thinks are demons, probably, because what they said feels good to him.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, that's the point.
The problem with the people who are right feels good.
And you want to do that, but also you don't want to do that because then other people have to feel good.
dan friesen
And if you understand the roots of the things that you're saying that make you feel good, oftentimes they run counter to your politics and your ideology.
So you probably don't want to deal with that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And cool.
jordan holmes
Very cool.
dan friesen
It resonates highly.
So we have one last clip here.
And Alex giving the old shaman a good job and a glowing praise on the way out the door.
alex jones
But I gotta say, Jake, very impressed with what you're doing.
And people can take whatever perspective they want, but this is what the globalists believe and know.
They're following it.
So whether people take on your worldview completely or not, I come from a Christian cosmology perspective.
And I know Christ is my Savior, the Holy Ghost, the Trinity, but I'm saying everybody should know what the enemy knows and understand that what the view you're laying out is their view, but you're from an opposing view of their operation.
This is dead on American Shaman on Twitter, American Shaman, and website ForbiddenTruthAcademy.com.
Give us a two-minute closing comment.
We'll have you back very soon.
And as soon as your probation officer lets you come here, I'm going to get you in studio.
dan friesen
Yeah, he has to be on Skype because he's on probation.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
So also, if you Google American Shaman, all of the results you're going to find is a CBD company called American Shaman.
So he might have done a little better job with his branding than to know that that's a big company.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I went to his Twitter, and here's his bio.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Quote, This dude might not be happy to learn that Alex titled this interview, quote, Saturday Special Broadcast, Q Shaman Exposes the Matrix of Death.
Or that he's consistently referred to as Q Shaman in episode titles when he's been interviewed in the past.
Seems like Alex is trying to control the narrative and destroy his public image through a straw man.
It probably doesn't matter.
unidentified
Nah.
dan friesen
He's just mad when the press does that as opposed to Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, you know, when you're...
It's a good move.
Because, one, you're obviously going to be riding the wave.
You didn't start it.
You don't control it.
You are the wave, right?
So you're going to ride the wave, but at the same time, if you are going to live in this space, it's an easy, just immediate, like, oh, they say I'm this.
I am whoever I say I am, because everybody knows that I'm riding the wave.
So I'm not the person riding the wave, but I am the person.
You know, it's a smart move.
dan friesen
Yeah, like, there's a picture of him in his shaman outfit.
A picture from the Capitol.
You're not disowning shit.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
He's got it prominently like a giant...
dan friesen
You need that in order for your brand to exist at all.
And now being mad about it is the logical extension of how your brand survives the next phase.
And congratulations.
I think that's great.
I hope you make a lot of money off it and you say the same dumb shit that everybody on Project Camelot does.
But yeah, this was a little fun.
jordan holmes
It was fun.
It was.
I mean, I just...
dan friesen
We found some truths.
jordan holmes
I think the problem with New Age stuff over space stuff is just that the New Age stuff always has that tinge of like, no, this is for helping people, you know?
And the space stuff can always just be like, man, these fuckers are fighting out there!
You know, like, that's fine.
dan friesen
There's bugs fighting dogs.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yes, hell yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, that is more fantastical in a way.
And that actually, I think when you're getting to that is why I think that it makes more sense to me when people get caught up in these webs.
Yeah.
unidentified
Because of that aspect of it that is like it's helping people.
dan friesen
We're here to help people.
Yeah.
unidentified
And that stuff.
dan friesen
behind it, or at least in the presentation of it, that seems way more seductive in a way that Alex's politics doesn't.
Yeah.
unidentified
You know, a lot of this is so clearly based on exclusion and hate and that stuff.
dan friesen
And that can be sussed out and could be an immediate turnoff.
Whereas somebody like the Q Shaman talking about our vibrations of love are higher and Yeah, I mean, it is a bit of like, the people who gravitate towards violent shit, you know, they're gonna gravitate towards violent shit.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It is when you take somebody who wouldn't otherwise wind up in this new agey stuff and you're like, hey, you're having a bad day and that person is like, finally, somebody is reaching out to me and I feel good for the first time in months or whatever.
And then to have that corrupted and stolen, that's just fucking heartbreaking.
dan friesen
Let me tell you about the Cube of Saturn.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, not the Cube!
dan friesen
So, yeah.
Have you seen the Cube?
The gleaming the Cube?
jordan holmes
No.
Have you seen the Cube?
dan friesen
I've met Ice Cube.
jordan holmes
Have you seen Cube 2?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
All right, well, you need to watch The Cube.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
That's what you gotta watch.
dan friesen
We'll be back.
We're gonna do a review of The Cube.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that'd be great.
dan friesen
A little departure for today, but that was fun.
jordan holmes
That was great.
dan friesen
We'll be back for another episode, but until then, Jordan, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark.
unidentified
No, we're not doing this every time.
dan friesen
I did it on purpose this time.
jordan holmes
We're not doing it every time.
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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