Today, Dan and Jordan welcome Mike Rothschild back to the show to discuss how Alex disparaged him on the show a couple weeks back. In order to make it through this episode, Mike has to endure the critiques of Alex and at least two Infowars callers, which is no problem as it turns out. Preorder Mike's book now! Get tickets to our Sept. 27 show in London!
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| Need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your room. | ||
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Knowledge fight. | |
| Knowledgefight.com. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| Jordan! | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan! | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| I have a quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today, buddy? | ||
| My bright spot today, Jordan. | ||
| I have a good one. | ||
| What's your good one? | ||
| I actually have a question for you. | ||
| I think you might be able to get this, but you might not. | ||
| Okay, all right. | ||
| So you have a riddle for me. | ||
| No, it's not a riddle. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| What is my favorite game series that started on the GameCube? | ||
| Dynasty Warriors. | ||
| That didn't start on the GameCube. | ||
| What started on the GameCube? | ||
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That's all they call the PlayStation. | |
| The only thing I know from the GameCube was Crazy Drift or something like that. | ||
| Well, Crazy Drift it is. | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, there was like Luigi's Mansion started on the GameCube. | ||
| All right. | ||
| All right. | ||
| But this is not what I'm talking about. | ||
| I'm talking about Pikmin. | ||
| Pikmin. | ||
| There's a new Pikmin. | ||
| Pikmin 4 is out. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And I've been messing around with it. | ||
| It is... | ||
| So good. | ||
| Is it good? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I love, it's like a little puzzle game, you know, where you have those little aliens that you throw around and they help you carry stuff. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| It's so much fun. | ||
| It is exactly like the old games, as good as those old games, but they added things that evolved the gameplay. | ||
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Sure. | |
| They really nailed it so far. | ||
| I'm not that far into it. | ||
| And I am loving it! | ||
| Alright, good! | ||
| That's a rousing endorsement! | ||
| I just realized that I think I got the GameCube mixed up with the Sega Saturn. | ||
| You might have. | ||
| I think that's what happened. | ||
| And I think you were thinking of Crazy Taxi. | ||
| I was 100% thinking of Crazy Taxi for the Sega Saturn. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That was one system that I only know one person who has ever said anything positive about. | ||
| And he's insistent about it. | ||
| And he's in jail, right? | ||
| No, he's doing good. | ||
| He's doing good? | ||
| Okay, alright. | ||
| I think... | ||
| Yeah, I think it was Nicky Gifts. | ||
| One of my best friends. | ||
| Okay, well, he's gonna be in jail soon. | ||
| Hey. | ||
| What's your bright spot? | ||
| My bright spot, Dan, is mixed. | ||
| It is an up and down spot. | ||
| It is a turn spot. | ||
| You and the dual. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| So my bright spot is not this, but yesterday my wife was supposed to get on the plane and go to Portugal and do her artist retreat. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And while we were in the car on the way to the airport, we both got a text that was like, nah, we just canceled your plane. | ||
| And they were just like, no, you don't get to fly today. | ||
| How far did you go? | ||
| We were like about halfway to O 'Hare. | ||
| But I mean, it was better than if we're at O 'Hare two hours early and then they cancel. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Yeah, I guess. | ||
| It could have been worse. | ||
| But anyways, the point is we were both very, very angry. | ||
| We were very, very frustrated. | ||
| And then after a while, it was like, screw it. | ||
| There's nothing we can do about it. | ||
| So we went and had a nice day together. | ||
| We went to the VR bar. | ||
| We had a nice little date. | ||
| VR bar? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Virtual reality bar? | ||
| Virtual reality bar. | ||
| I didn't know such a thing exists. | ||
| You go and you play VR games. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We'll go. | ||
| This is transhumanism, friend. | ||
| I don't have a wife for a couple weeks, buddy. | ||
| You can go to the VR bar any day. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| We had a great day. | ||
| We had a great day. | ||
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That's wonderful. | |
| And then she got on the plane today, so everything worked out, and nobody should be angry. | ||
| It's nice to get to that point where you kind of are pissed off, but you... | ||
| Just give it up. | ||
| There's nothing you can do about it. | ||
| You're powerless over the hassle. | ||
| And you're just going to get more mad. | ||
| There's nothing productive you can do about it. | ||
| What do we do in the virtual reality? | ||
| Is there a fake glass of booze? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| You can play these games where you have VR hatchet throwing? | ||
| Yes, 100%. | ||
| You can shoot arrows and shit. | ||
| You can do dance games. | ||
| There's guns and stuff. | ||
| Oh man, it's fantastic. | ||
| I played like two minutes of the VR version of... | ||
| Forbidden West. | ||
| Forbidden West? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Why can't I? | ||
| Horizon. | ||
| Horizon Zero Dawn. | ||
| I played it and it almost made me throw up. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I don't know if I can handle it. | ||
| No, it's more, it's not that kind of level. | ||
| It's more like, oh, it's a fun party game, you know? | ||
| For people who get drunk and play together. | ||
| I'm in. | ||
| Let's spend the weekend. | ||
| We're doing it. | ||
| We're done. | ||
| So today, Jordan, we have an episode to go over. | ||
| Do we? | ||
| And we have something interesting to do. | ||
| And that is, I don't think we've ever done this before. | ||
| I think one of the most interesting things we've done so far is waste a man's time. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That's definitely not a first. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
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That's a regular. | |
| I got nothing but time, guys. | ||
| I got nowhere to be. | ||
| I got no life. | ||
| Depending on downloads, we very regularly waste people's time. | ||
| Well. | ||
| So, yeah, we've never done this before, but recently there was a little bit of a kerfuffle. | ||
| We might say. | ||
| A kerfuffle? | ||
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Things went cattywampus over at InfoWars. | |
| Was there caterwauling? | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Always. | ||
| And Alex caught wind of a clip of a friend of ours, Mike Rothschild, on CNN and decided to yell about him for a little bit. | ||
| And so we decided, why not talk about this, talk about the episode, and bring in Mike to have some commentary, see how he feels about this. | ||
| Why not do a little bit of a play-by-play? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So, ladies and gentlemen joining us, Mike Rothschild, thank you for joining us. | ||
| Thank you so much, Mike. | ||
| I am so happy to be here. | ||
| There is nobody else I would rather listen to listening to me, listening to Alex talk about me. | ||
| I'm not high enough for this. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now, I feel like you've accidentally assumed that I am paying attention to what you say. | ||
| I would never assume that. | ||
| There's a couple of interesting dynamics at play here. | ||
| The first is that, Mike, you have not listened to this. | ||
| I have not. | ||
| Oh, you don't know! | ||
| I do not. | ||
| And there's a reason why. | ||
| And if you will permit me... | ||
| A few minutes of your time. | ||
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Of course. | |
| There is some backstory that goes into not only why Alex was talking about me, but why I haven't heard of why Alex was talking about me. | ||
| So picture this, Sicily, 1925. | ||
| No, that's the picture. | ||
| So a couple Fridays ago, this was July 7th, I got an email a few hours before they wanted me, that CNN wanted me to go on to do like a four-minute hit on Sound of Freedom. | ||
| The Jim Caviezel God's Children Are Not For Sale trafficking movie. | ||
| So I did that. | ||
| I've done CNN a couple times before. | ||
| You just set it up and you just do it and that's it. | ||
| So it's Friday night. | ||
| I don't really expect a ton of people to watch it. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Go on with my day. | ||
| The next morning, I'm checking Twitter. | ||
| I'm like, oh, that's interesting. | ||
| Jack Posobiec is talking about my clip on CNN. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Oh, whatever. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| They need content. | ||
| Oh, Mike Cernovich is talking about my clip on CNN. | ||
| Oh, why is a QAnon influencer with 250,000 followers calling me a pedophile? | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
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Oh, boy. | |
| I should maybe keep an eye on this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So it kind of rolls along. | ||
| I start to get the fire hose and the Twitter mentions. | ||
| You know, people calling me a pedophile. | ||
| People telling me my hard drive needs to get checked. | ||
| I mean, I've had... | ||
| I hate to say this, but, you know, no press is bad press. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| This is getting your name out there. | ||
| This is a good pub for the new book. | ||
| Good pub, you know? | ||
| I'm out there. | ||
| I'm talking about how Sound of Freedom is linked to QAnon. | ||
| I'm saying it's, you know, the statistics are bogus, and it's basically just a giant moral panic designed to suck up money from gullible people who think their children are going to get snatched up. | ||
| I mean, that's the truth. | ||
| So I don't have anything to be afraid of. | ||
| I keep things pretty tight online. | ||
| But this kind of keeps snowballing. | ||
| I start getting the emails, start getting the LinkedIn messages from people using their real name to call me a pederast. | ||
| That's not always the best idea. | ||
| So this continues for Saturday, Sunday, Monday. | ||
| So then Monday, I'm like, okay, this is starting to turn into something. | ||
| I really need to kind of keep an eye on this. | ||
| I get a call, not from anybody calling me a pederast, but telling me that my mom is in the hospital and has had complications from surgery. | ||
| And I need to get out there. | ||
| This is unrelated to the CNN hit, right? | ||
| I mean, I would imagine... | ||
| The surgeon wasn't, like, scandalized by your CNN appearance. | ||
| Jim Caviezel may have been the surgeon. | ||
| I don't know for sure. | ||
| No, it was actually a CNN hit. | ||
| It was. | ||
| CNN hit squad. | ||
| They do that. | ||
| That's documented. | ||
| You can look it up. | ||
| It's in the white paper. | ||
| So I fly out to Chicago. | ||
| It's where I grew up on Tuesday. | ||
| So then Wednesday, I'm not exactly paying attention to what the right wing clogosphere is calling me, but I've been on Fox News. | ||
| Laura Ingram has had Tim Ballard on saying all kinds of insane shit about me. | ||
| They were talking about me on Bannon's podcast, Daily Wire, Post Millennial, the whole thing, the whole rota. | ||
| Somebody DMs me while I'm at the hospital saying, Alex just spent pretty much the entire third hour ranting about you. | ||
| Now normally I'd be like, this is amazing, I gotta call Dan Jordan. | ||
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I'm a little busy at this point. | |
| Making the decisions that you make when you're in a hospital and your loved one is maybe not going to make it. | ||
| So that's the day that most of this ranting takes place. | ||
| The rest of the ranting takes place the next day, the day my mom passes. | ||
| So, yeah, so there's a lot going on. | ||
| Now, of course, Sound of Freedom is still churning up all this press. | ||
| It's still really successful. | ||
| At that point, right. | ||
| We are now, like, at the end of the month, and I don't think anybody is really all that—they don't care about that movie now, right? | ||
| I mean, like, it's kind of fizzled out. | ||
| I think it's kind of fizzled out, but about two weeks ago, it was kind of the only thing anybody wanted to talk about. | ||
| So I'm still—I'm doing NPR interviews, I talk to somebody at Vanity Fair, and then I'm like, oh, hang on, I'm at the funeral home, I'm picking out a coffin for my mom. | ||
| Yes, I can talk to NPR. | ||
| Hang on, I just have to delete this email calling me a pederast. | ||
| Yeah, so there's a lot going on. | ||
| I'm getting bullied on LinkedIn. | ||
| He's getting bullied on LinkedIn, the worst place to get bullied. | ||
| Just the worst. | ||
| No, I don't want to join you. | ||
| Professionals. | ||
| Professional bulliers who also want me to join their network. | ||
| I still have no idea what LinkedIn is for or what it was supposed to do. | ||
| I've never understood it. | ||
| No one is. | ||
| No, I tried to do the thing and then I sent a resume and then I was like, wow, this is silly. | ||
| And then I haven't been back. | ||
| And that was 15 years ago or something. | ||
| You probably still have an account that's been hacked. | ||
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I'm probably the one doing it to you, Mike. | |
| Yes, you were demanding my heart. | ||
| Possible deniability is what that's called. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| I'm in Chicago for about another week. | ||
| I fly home. | ||
| All of this stuff is going on. | ||
| And then I get COVID for the first time. | ||
| So I am happy to spend the last days of this month taking a dump on Alex Jones. | ||
| Because, you know what? | ||
| I've earned it. | ||
| Yeah, I think so. | ||
| That's a harrowing tale. | ||
| One of the things I think is really interesting about that dynamic is you had so much going on that even if... | ||
| Like, Alex's shit or these people on Twitter was, like, a massive deal for you. | ||
| It still—it couldn't penetrate the issues with your mom and COVID. | ||
| It's not a blessing so much as it is by virtue of that—by virtue of reality, you realize unreality isn't that important. | ||
| It puts things in perspective. | ||
| It does. | ||
| It does, which is, you know, the cliché, but it's also true. | ||
| I mean, I—99— 0.9% of what got thrown at me, I just immediately deleted or blocked. | ||
| I mean, there wasn't any – I wasn't going to respond to any of these people. | ||
| And what this kind of thing does is that – What would you do? | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| I mean, you can – Someone writes you an email and then you're like, you make some great points. | ||
| I haven't considered that. | ||
| I appreciate your feedback. | ||
| You set up an auto-reply that just says like – You caught me. | ||
| Like, that's what you do. | ||
| Every email is an auto reply of like, sorry, I'm out of the office. | ||
| You caught me. | ||
| Blank. | ||
| I'll see you next week. | ||
| I'm going to turn myself in. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I had a thought about this. | ||
| So Alex talks about you a bit. | ||
| And you were saying that like the Posobics and Cernovich's were getting in the mix on Twitter and stuff. | ||
| But, like, I was wondering if this is the first time you've had to deal with that kind of a pylon. | ||
| Because, you know, you had your QAnon book that came out. | ||
| You're promoting the new book that's coming out, the Jewish Space Lasers bit. | ||
| And your name is Rothschild. | ||
| So I have to assume that, like, at some point this has come up before. | ||
| I have gotten attacked before, but never to this degree. | ||
| I've gotten the Twitter pylons. | ||
| It has not crossed over to Fox News. | ||
| It hasn't crossed over to Alex. | ||
| It hasn't crossed over to really even the big blogs. | ||
| Very rarely something related to QAnon will come up, but it's usually just sort of like how stupid QAnon is, and it's clearly a left-wing false flag to make conservatives look crazy. | ||
| it's never been this personal and it's never been this mean-spirited. | ||
| You know, with a lot of the big Q gurus, there's kind of a back and forth. | ||
| Like, they kind of enjoy the game. | ||
| There was no game with this. | ||
| I mean, these are people who genuinely think that I was doing horrible things to children, that I'd been sent out onto CNN to tell people not to see this movie, which I never said. | ||
| I don't care what movies people go to. | ||
| At best, they were saying that you're... | ||
| Running cover for the evil cabals and stuff. | ||
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Right. | |
| That I'm running cover, that I'm trying to diminish the success of Sound of Freedom, that I'm trying to cover the pedophiles. | ||
| Some of that is kind of standard issue, but there was a kind of a mean-spiritedness and a laser focus to it that was new even for me. | ||
| And if I hadn't been distracted with a bunch of other stuff, it would have been a little more disturbing. | ||
| But, I mean, at some point... | ||
| With this, it was just, you sort of turn into Robert De Niro at the bar in Goodfellas. | ||
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You're just going, okay, okay, okay. | |
| How do you, I mean, it's got to become noise at a certain point. | ||
| It's absolutely noise. | ||
| There's nothing distinguishing about it. | ||
| There's nothing, there's no one bit of it that stands out. | ||
| I mean, the Fox News thing did, because it was like, whoa, I made Fox News. | ||
| That's something. | ||
| But the vast majority of it was people who have gone after me. | ||
| In some way before, but never quite this much at this intensity. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| That sucks. | ||
| I feel like I would have jumped out a window if I were in your position, so I'm glad that you were distracted or made of sturdier stuff than me, but that would have... | ||
| Driven me into a tailspin. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| That would have been fun for me, though. | ||
| Also, how have we not abbreviated Kugurus to Kuru? | ||
| Kuru. | ||
| Kuru. | ||
| I think you have just stumbled upon the answer for that very question. | ||
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Yeah, it might be. | |
| Ask an answer. | ||
| I thought Kuru was the brain disease that Hillary had right before the election, wasn't it? | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| Yeah, see? | ||
| The cannibalism disease. | ||
| The cannibalism disease. | ||
| See? | ||
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See? | |
| You know, nothing's ever wasted. | ||
| You just store away. | ||
| That's what Steve Martin said. | ||
| I think it's personal for them, because what we're talking about is a movie. | ||
| These are people who are all obsessed with movies to the point where they believe movies are real life. | ||
| And this movie was one that they felt was theirs, and it was successful. | ||
| All of their other movies starring Chuck Norris or whatever are shit, and they know it. | ||
| As much as they try and say otherwise. | ||
| But this made like $100 million. | ||
| Why are you being mean to us? | ||
| Let us have this one. | ||
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Right. | |
| It's so dark. | ||
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It's so sad. | |
| Yes. | ||
| What you had was the reaction to the movie, and then you had the reaction to the reaction. | ||
| And the reaction to the movie was a lot of people going, yeah, that's not really what's going on here. | ||
| This organization is not really helping people to the extent that it claims it is. | ||
| There's a lot of shady stuff with this guy. | ||
| All totally legitimate criticism of the film. | ||
| And then the reaction to the reaction was, anybody who doesn't like this movie is a pedophile. | ||
| Which is not as legitimate a form of criticism. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I'm disappointed in us as a society for not getting to this exact same place 30 years ago when Bloodsport was released. | ||
| So we could really have a worthwhile fight about Frank Dukes and the Kumite. | ||
| As opposed to things that are just made up, like whatever this Jim Caviezel guy is talking about. | ||
| It is of note, I think, for the people who are really pushing hard the reaction to the reaction that you're describing, that this guy, the Tim character, has been distanced from the organization. | ||
| Left his own company. | ||
| It's the evacuate in our moment of triumph. | ||
| Yeah, it's kind of the opposite, but also the same thing as O 'Keefe. | ||
| I mean, you want to retire at the top. | ||
| Come on, you don't want to go out those bad Jordan years, you know, 03 to 05 or whatever. | ||
| No, absolutely not. | ||
| No, you go out on top, you get your movie made with Jim Crazy Kabiesel, and then you move on. | ||
| It took me a second to realize that you meant Michael Jordan and not yourself. | ||
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I wouldn't wish those on anyone. | |
| You sucked on the Wizards. | ||
| I really was terrible. | ||
| The other thing is, and I brought this up with somebody and it didn't make a piece that I did an interview for, is that they're pushing the success of the film not just in terms of donate to Operation Underground Railroad but buy more tickets to the movie. | ||
| So they're bloating the box office success of the movie and of course the other thing you remember is Almost all these people who are pushing this movie hard are failed screenwriters, failed directors, failed actors. | ||
| So here is them kicking down the rotten door of Hollywood and planting the flag of wholesome grift. | ||
| Yeah, that is an unexamined aspect of a lot of the stuff for me. | ||
| That dynamic of how many of these people are failed entertainment folk. | ||
| And what piece of that is their hatred of Hollywood? | ||
| And how much of that do I just ignore because there are valid criticisms? | ||
| Of Hollywood. | ||
| And I'm just like, ah, forget it. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's enough there. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm not going to call this you just being bitter. | ||
| I'm going to give it to you. | ||
| Listen, I understand that your emotional basis for this is driven by resentment and hatred of your own failure. | ||
| But you stumbled upon some good points. | ||
| So fuck you. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
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I'm out. | |
| Yeah, Weinstein does suck. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| No one can deny that. | ||
| Next. | ||
| Moving on. | ||
| So, are you all ready to jump in? | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| Let's do this. | ||
| Okay, so I will say that there are some clips before we get to any business about you, but I felt like we had to get the lay of the land, we had to feel it out, and there's some silly shit that he says, so I felt like, can't leave this on the cutting room floor? | ||
| You wouldn't be listening to our show if you didn't get more context maybe than you even wanted. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| So, Alex starts the show listening to the questioning of FBI Director Ray. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And he's being questioned about FISA stuff and what have you. | ||
| And Alex is having a great time, except when Democrats are asking questions. | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| Yes. | ||
| When Jim Jordan is asking questions, Alex is playing it and listening. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| And then a Democrat asks a question and he just screams. | ||
| Yeah, it's a lot of fun. | ||
| But while he's doing this, He takes a little break from listening, and he has an extended fantasy about, like, backroom planning of a false flag. | ||
| This is what's going on in Chris Ray's head. | ||
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Needless to say, the injunction itself is the subject of ongoing litigation, and so I'll decline to comment further on that. | |
| You know what he's really thinking there, right? | ||
| No. | ||
| He's thinking, my higher-ups have told me and the black ops, they're getting ready to cut the power and launch a bigger war. | ||
| They can't do it soon enough. | ||
| We've lost control. | ||
| They know what we've done. | ||
| We've got to go ahead and do a power outage and blame it on the domestic groups and start the terror attacks. | ||
| We've got to go ahead and launch the Civil War. | ||
| He's just sitting there going, we've waited too long, we've waited too long. | ||
| He's thinking, load the truck bombs, activate the sleeper cells, prepare to blame the American people, prepare the false flag. | ||
| He's back at headquarters. | ||
| You know, and then going off to some park somewhere and meeting with one of the spook heads and just saying, he's probably meeting with Brennan right now. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| And Obama, and they're just sitting around going, we've got to get the green light from the 300. | ||
| We've got to talk to the Rothschilds, Rockefellers. | ||
| We've got to get the big combine. | ||
| Ding, ding, ding, ding. | ||
| They're like, well, don't you represent them? | ||
| The director is the Carnegie director. | ||
| And he's like, well, the director doesn't have full authorization from the board. | ||
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It's too dangerous to watch these operations to publish aware of them. | |
| Well, we better watch them fast. | ||
| They're having a debate right now. | ||
| Setting off nukes, you name it. | ||
| Sky's the limit. | ||
| Bioweapons. | ||
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They'll kill everybody to stay in power. | |
| I'm telling you. | ||
| You want to. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, there's a lot of nouns. | ||
| There are a lot of A's, a lot of thems, some Carnegie's, some Rothschilds. | ||
| This is hard to follow. | ||
| It is, unless you're really practiced in it. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| I could make sense of what he's saying, but only hanging by a thread. | ||
| But I'm just good at hanging on threads. | ||
| It would be a man on a wire. | ||
| It would be that. | ||
| Yeah, he would be crossing two giant buildings. | ||
| I love the idea that Ray is sitting there being questioned, and he's just doing a sauna in his head. | ||
| How do you not have a bloody vein popping out of your head with that level of... | ||
| It's like... | ||
| He's a fucking castle. | ||
| Rick! | ||
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Help me, Rick! | |
| Like, he's insane. | ||
| What is going on here? | ||
| Great. | ||
| I got to go meet with spies in the park now and see if the 300 have approved. | ||
| So the 300 there, if I can get a book plug in, first of many, that is the committee of 300. | ||
| That is an idea that dates back to the late 1920s. | ||
| And it was first developed by a German politician named Walter Rathenau, who was talking simply about the old money families that basically controlled the economic destiny of Europe. | ||
| It had nothing to do with Jews. | ||
| It had nothing to do with the Illuminati. | ||
| Now, Rathenau was assassinated by the Nazis, but his idea has lived on with a number of other conspiracy theory books. | ||
| Probably the most prominent is called The Committee of 300 by a guy named John Coleman. | ||
| We've run into that cat before, I think. | ||
| And Coleman has also written a book about the Rothschilds. | ||
| So all of this stuff is very, very connected in a way that once you poke one of these things, all of these other things kind of become obvious to you. | ||
| Yeah, they are all baked together in a way that is not that surprising. | ||
| No. | ||
| But it's under-understood by, I think, a broad audience. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And there's, I mean, it's such a weird thing to pop up as a corollary, but it's not too dissimilar for these people for, like, Pokemon fan fiction. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, like, you don't, if you don't understand all of the evolutions of blah, blah, blah, blah, you still have an idea of, like, oh, this one's a dragon or whatever. | ||
| This one does lightning. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This one does false flags. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, I don't know the exact committee of the 300 or a Porygon 2. I get it. | ||
| That's fine, but we get it. | ||
| Or the Council of Twelve. | ||
| Sure! | ||
| They're in the mix, too. | ||
| Which ones are those? | ||
| Maybe Bill Gates. | ||
| Ah, could be. | ||
| Maybe not, though. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| Who are the Renfields? | ||
| Probably Nicolas Cage. | ||
| Well, definitely Nicolas Cage. | ||
| Right? | ||
| No, he's Dracula in Renfield. | ||
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He's Dracula. | |
| Oh, that's true. | ||
| Well, then we're all out. | ||
| I shamefully admit that I have not seen that. | ||
| How could I not? | ||
| I will say, just to be clear, I don't think that Alex actually believes, like, he doesn't talk about the committee of 300 or the 300 haven't cleared this. | ||
| I think that was free association. | ||
| That's not a big part of his regular stuff. | ||
| But definitely, you know, Rothschild. | ||
| Rockefeller. | ||
| Yeah, that's not his regular set. | ||
| This is more of his stripped-down acoustic set where he's trying out some different things. | ||
| Yeah, I get it. | ||
| Unplugged. | ||
| So in this next clip, we go from vague to more specific, where Alex is talking about the false flag that he imagines is probably going to come. | ||
| And it turns out it's a MAGA hack attack. | ||
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Ooh. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| And I should note, one thing that I definitely noticed that most people probably wouldn't register is that document that Alex calls Operation Lockstep. | ||
| If you recall, there's four scenarios that are possible. | ||
| One of them is called Lockstep. | ||
| Another one is called Hack Attack. | ||
| So Alex is just, I think, going back to that document. | ||
| Still stealing that. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| So enjoy this fantasy. | ||
| And I said, look for them to claim that right-wing MAGA groups are going to hack attack and bring down part of the power grid or large sections of the power grid. | ||
| And that'll be used for the new, basically, COVID lockdowns. | ||
| And then they'll use that as the pretext for the Internet ID that once they turn the Internet back on, because they're going to say the Internet's being used to attack infrastructure. | ||
| Once they turn it back on, you've got to have an Internet ID. | ||
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I Which they're announcing all over the world right now to be able to get back on. | |
| And the people that don't get back on, sorry, you've got to scan to get into this grocery store. | ||
| You've got to scan your smartphone to get gas. | ||
| You've got to scan your smartphone to get on the Internet because you saw what happened when in, say, the Northeast or the West Coast or the Texas power sector, that's five states, or the Chicago system. | ||
| One of the six grids, or maybe more, goes out. | ||
| You saw the devastation. | ||
| You saw the stock market crash. | ||
| 10,000 points. | ||
| You saw the fear. | ||
| You saw the riots. | ||
| You saw two months of no power. | ||
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And we bet the heroes and the engineers and the men and women of the law enforcement barely got it back off. | |
| What? | ||
| Every single one of those. | ||
| And they've got the main hacker, a Trump supporter. | ||
| Who admits he works with Russia, and he's confessed, he's confessed to running the attack that brought down one-third of the U.S. grid and killed one million people in the last two months with the riots and death. | ||
| We've made it through it. | ||
| We've come together as a country, but we've got to have this Internet ID. | ||
| We've got to have the central bank digital currency. | ||
| It's all just so happy to be ready, and those that don't accept it are part of the group that did this. | ||
| They're Russian agents. | ||
| Breaking! | ||
| Russians just used tactical nuclear weapons. | ||
| NATO's now officially joining the war. | ||
| NATO officially joining the war! | ||
| It's going to go down. | ||
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Yep. | |
| That simple. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Even a child could understand. | ||
| That fantasy was A to B. That was clean cut. | ||
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God. | |
| Wow. | ||
| And also... | ||
| All of those things he meant, the Chicago system, the six grids, those are all jazz fusion bands. | ||
| I think also Texas has its own grid. | ||
| We learned that when it went down during that winter storm. | ||
| It does not have a five-state grid. | ||
| I don't know if there's a Chicago system, but I mean... | ||
| We better work on it. | ||
| Yeah, we better get started on that if there isn't. | ||
| I could not handle myself and keep my laugh in when Mike made a face at Alex going, blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| It's fun to see people's reactions to stuff that I just... | ||
| We just blow over it like it didn't happen. | ||
| He used to be more articulate, though, didn't he? | ||
| No, he didn't. | ||
| I mean, maybe like 20 years ago, he was a little... | ||
| Yeah, I think so. | ||
| Yeah, definitely. | ||
| I mean, if you listen to shows from a bit earlier in his career, there's definitely still a lot of the hatefulness, and a lot of that was definitely ignored. | ||
| I mean, he didn't have 20 years of booze in him. | ||
| True. | ||
| He wasn't free associating nearly as much. | ||
| He didn't have the... | ||
| He seemed to know more where he was going to go in terms of, like, when he started talking, he knew what sentence was happening. | ||
| Yeah, he had the constitution to handle accelerants back then. | ||
| Now it's not so much. | ||
| But just coffee. | ||
| Just coffee! | ||
| Whoa, you're impugning his honor, sir. | ||
| So, Mike, can you explain what is going to happen? | ||
| According to Alex, you just heard him lay it out. | ||
| How do you see this going down? | ||
| Man, I didn't think there would be math. | ||
| So there's going to be some kind of an internet hack attack. | ||
| Hack attack. | ||
| And that's going to shut down part of the power grid, and then they're going to bring the internet back up, but there's going to need to be safeguards in place. | ||
| They're also going to need to bring the power back up. | ||
| The power back up. | ||
| So the power and the internet have gone down. | ||
| So the power has gone down. | ||
| The internet's gone down, but now they're back up thanks to the heroic first responders. | ||
| The engineer first responders. | ||
| Engineer first responders. | ||
| But there have to be safeguards in place so this doesn't happen again. | ||
| I mean, the same way, you know, there had to be shoes taken off so that there would never be another 9-11. | ||
| They didn't really explain how that worked. | ||
| But, you know, we just went along with it because we're all sheep. | ||
| So there's going to be the grocery store scanning that's going to need to run your life. | ||
| You're not going to be able to go anywhere without your digital ID and your smartphone. | ||
| Marco Beast. | ||
| Mark of the beast. | ||
| We can't have money anymore because that's at risk. | ||
| So you need your central bank digital currency run by the Rothschilds who own all the central banks. | ||
| But then that's not enough because that's never enough. | ||
| And so there's going to be tactical nukes from Ukraine because they need NATO to get into the war. | ||
| So now we've got nuclear war and we need to scan a card to get into the grocery store. | ||
| We are officially so far off the tracks. | ||
| We are, yeah. | ||
| What was the plan again? | ||
| What was the end goal here? | ||
| Well, okay. | ||
| To do a hack attack. | ||
| Well, I guess if you're really looking at the way he laid it out, the end goal is nuclear war with Russia. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because the hack attack, the MAGA hack attack, those people are working with Russia. | ||
| There are so many quicker, simpler, and easier ways to start a nuclear war with even a false flag attack. | ||
| Here's what you could do. | ||
| You could give somebody a uniform and one of your nukes and then have them set it off somewhere. | ||
| That is sort of a hack. | ||
| I mean, it's a life hack. | ||
| It's a life hack. | ||
| Occam's razor is a life hack. | ||
| MAGA life hack attack. | ||
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Hmm. | |
| Now that's not anything. | ||
| No, that doesn't work. | ||
| That doesn't have legs. | ||
| So when this happens, shit's going to get really severe. | ||
| I've heard that from sources. | ||
| And here's another source for you. | ||
| This is legitimately a man just trying to make his audience panic. | ||
| There is nothing else going on here. | ||
| If Chris Ray and his handlers think their plan to cut the power and blame it on us is going to fly, if they think that duck's going to quack... | ||
| And they think that dog's going to hunt. | ||
| You're crazy enough to do it. | ||
| And everybody needs to know, the minute they cut the power, they've got MS-13 and other cutout groups that will claim their antifa, but it's really assassin teams that are planning to kill myself, Trump. | ||
| Tucker Carlson, they're going to kill Joe Rogan because he's not going to sell out to them. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And anyone prominent, Dana White's dead. | ||
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What? | |
| $100 million was all it took. | ||
| But here's the deal. | ||
| They can't kill all of us. | ||
| Pretty sure they can. | ||
| But just remember, when they make this move, they're going to try to kill every major person. | ||
| They've got names. | ||
| They've got lists. | ||
| They've got it all. | ||
| Right down to your local top talk show host that's fighting. | ||
| Got the number one ratings. | ||
| There's a common sense person they know won't sell out during this. | ||
| They know won't go along during this takeover. | ||
| They're marked for death. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And it'll all happen in one night. | ||
| 10,000 people's houses are going to get hit. | ||
| And it's going to be right when the power goes off. | ||
| The minute the power goes off. | ||
| Or the minute they say the Russians have hit Ukraine with a nuke. | ||
| They're coming. | ||
| So, telling you, better be looking over your shoulder. | ||
| Better be frosty, frosty the snowman. | ||
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I don't know why I hit the frosty the snowman. | |
| I get to stay frosty. | ||
| Listen, and it's dark, but I would say that listening to the radio and just being like, we have sad news today, listeners. | ||
| Our dear friend and longtime host, Timmy Timshaps, has been assassinated with two bullets to the back of his head, execution style. | ||
| As we all know, that was clearly a right-wing hack attack. | ||
| They're going to kill your weatherman. | ||
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They're going to kill the local sports guy. | |
| I do like that we have this hierarchy of the important patriots, and you have Trump, Alex, Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, Dana White. | ||
| Down the list. | ||
| Why is Dana White on that list? | ||
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I mean, I think because Vince McMahon was supposed to be on the list. | |
| It seems weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Could have maybe had Rand Paul on there or something. | ||
| Nah, Rand is out. | ||
| So how does that make you feel, Mike, that kind of rhetoric flying around? | ||
| Well, what struck me about that is the idea that they're going to kill the 10,000 most popular Americans, the most popular patriots. | ||
| But then Alex is telling his audience, you'd better look over your shoulder. | ||
| So he is telling his audience, you are important enough that they're going to come after you. | ||
| Killed Joe Rogan and Tucker and Donald Trump and your local high school sports guy. | ||
| They're going to kill you next because you matter. | ||
| You are important. | ||
| It's kind of a compliment. | ||
| Yeah, it's saying you are important enough to kill. | ||
| There is something very QAnon about that. | ||
| There is something very aspirational about that. | ||
| I mean, you know, it sounds like random, insane babble, and a lot of it is, but he knows what he's doing, and he knows how to get the people at home, not only scared, but feel like they matter enough that they're going to go down in this great perch. | ||
| Oh, yeah, definitely. | ||
| And, you know, that same sort of Trumpian line. | ||
| Yeah, I think I think that Alex kind of I think he was using it before Trump was even the are only after me to get to you. | ||
| You know, like that's that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's shitty. | ||
| See, now I'm not worried because I have chosen... | ||
| Here's my new game, right? | ||
| So I believe that nothing bad will happen until they kill Netanyahu. | ||
| Because Netanyahu is the canary in the cold. | ||
| So my new game is I've decided that everyone has to pick one thing Alex has said and write it out through the rest of time. | ||
| Jordan, you chose yours on episode one. | ||
| I chose mine on episode one. | ||
| Writing it out. | ||
| That is what I will believe. | ||
| If Alex has said anything true, it is that. | ||
| And that's it. | ||
| On our first episode, he freaked out because Netanyahu was going to get arrested or something. | ||
| Indicted. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He said that Netanyahu was the canary in the coal mine and then declared, it's time to pray. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| So everyone has to choose one. | ||
| And if it doesn't come true, you have to keep waiting. | ||
| I feel like this, what Alex has just... | ||
| Gone into here is very much like it's not stabilizing, you know, like you're creating a really unbalanced mentality in the audience. | ||
| And I know for sure that it's way less likely that it'll just be announced that we're in a nuclear war with Russia. | ||
| But I grew up in Missouri and our power went out fairly regularly when there was like bad thunderstorms. | ||
| So like. | ||
| How could you be in a position where you're like, they're going to shut the power off, and then your whole neighborhood, the lights all go out. | ||
| Is it time? | ||
| Is it time? | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Time. | ||
| When I was a kid, it was like, oh, okay, we've always got a collection of candles, you know, that in real world now, I've never kept a candle in my entire life. | ||
| But back in the day, we had tons of them because the power goes out. | ||
| Well, I think it's because we have phones now. | ||
| Well, that's definitely true. | ||
| But yeah, it's something that is so common. | ||
| That, like, you're really setting people up to maybe, like, shoot a loved one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's not the first time we've seen stories of, like, well, fucking recently of just, oh, black teenager knocks on door. | ||
| Bam. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| But it'll be all right-winger Alex Jones audiences who have suffered power outages. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And local weathermen. | ||
| Local weathermen. | ||
| Now is the time to get into meteorology. | ||
| I mean, if you're a sellout. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, because the great calling is apparently coming for you. | ||
| Well, just like in the 80s, there were all the dental surgeons that got scooped up. | ||
| They got torn away from their lovely homes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we know that Alex believes that the LGBT is actually the LGBTQ, because he believes that pedophiles are a part of that. | ||
| But he's decided to expand it and add yet another letter that is awful. | ||
| If you think Dylan Mulvaney... | ||
| And destroying Anheuser-Busch, 30-something billion now, Target picking up on it, going, here, hold my beer, showing devil worship, and we're going to recruit your kids to Satan, and we're going to turn them into skeletons, and we're going to cut Christians' heads off. | ||
| And then, by the way, I was on the street by a LGBTQS parade, Satan parade, and I got photos of some of it. | ||
| And a lot of people were wearing satanic attire. | ||
| And I just was like, saw it real quick, saw the Target close, and then ducked into the hotel I was at, visiting my wife's dad who's in the hospital a few weeks ago. | ||
| I got the photo. | ||
| I think you guys probably still have it in there, if not, I'll send it to you again. | ||
| And he's got the rainbow saying, not Pride Month, but Pride Demon Month, with a devil with a pitchfork. | ||
| And that's really what this is. | ||
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It's LGBTPS. | |
| The P.S. on the end of the LGBT plus is pedophile Satanist. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| I'm serious. | ||
| He is serious. | ||
| You are not even trying anymore. | ||
| That's bullshit. | ||
| Pride Demon Month? | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| How dare you step to me with Pride Demon Month? | ||
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You tossed off hate-jobbing bullshit. | |
| Fuck you. | ||
| You know, Mike, you're right. | ||
| It's catchy, though. | ||
| It looks great in Spangles on a shirt. | ||
| How would you even format that? | ||
| It's the wrong number of words to fit two on top of another one. | ||
| You do not have ambitious ideas about design. | ||
| I'm so furious about this. | ||
| These posters are going to be terrible. | ||
| So from my listening to stuff, this has become consistent. | ||
| He's added the S in there. | ||
| So now I guess all LGBTQ folk are Satanists. | ||
| Well, that's fine because that's not real. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| But it is literal demonization. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| As opposed to the metaphorical that he has been guilty of for so long. | ||
| Yeah, that's very on the nose. | ||
| Is that even allowed? | ||
| What? | ||
| Listen, we've done the demonization for a long time. | ||
| We have the word demonization for describing this thing. | ||
| But the word is created because demons aren't real. | ||
| And we use it as a... | ||
| You know, as a comparison. | ||
| 11 months of the year, it's not real. | ||
| But during Pride Demon Month. | ||
| If we are now accepting that demons are 100% real, I feel like we need a different word. | ||
| Demonization, that's offensive to demons. | ||
| Alexify. | ||
| Demons are real, and they have feelings. | ||
| And they get a month. | ||
| Absolutely! | ||
| They deserve a month. | ||
| They do. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Not the same month. | ||
| Now you're getting into some real sticky territory. | ||
| Rights for demons. | ||
| I'm saying that if they are real, I think it's a discussion we need to have. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, animals have rights. | ||
| If demons are conscious beings. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex is going to have a tough one with this. | ||
| Yeah, that's going to be a real fight. | ||
| So, Mike, it is time for Alex to find you and have some words. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| He has some stern words. | ||
| Stern words. | ||
| But first, he's also going to play your clip so we can see what your great sin is. | ||
| First, I want to play CNN saying this doesn't exist. | ||
| And then I've got a whole bunch of local newscasts just this week with this stuff going on. | ||
| And everybody knows about this stuff. | ||
| Everybody knows about sex trafficking and the pimps and the kidnapped kids and how the Latin Americans have been caught in all the Veritas reports and the admissions and the sex crime statistics and the Senate report that Obama knowingly placed them with them. | ||
| We already showed you that. | ||
| But just imagine, because I can't get over it. | ||
| I'll be completely honest with you. | ||
| Let's play the CNN clip going after break and we'll come back with the other clip. | ||
| I just can't imagine. | ||
| That we're actually in this place. | ||
| I keep pinching myself at this point. | ||
| Even Alex Jones can't believe it. | ||
| And I'm like, I've got dozens of clips of corporate media saying, don't watch a movie, and it's lies, and nobody wants to kidnap your kid. | ||
| And meanwhile, I'm a news hound, so I look at the news all day, and I see child kidnapped here, child kidnapped there, child found here in a hotel right by dozens of men, child found dead. | ||
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And I'm sitting there, and it's only in local news. | |
| So again, why is that not national news? | ||
| Sometimes the national news will choose some little girl that goes missing, and then they'll make it the biggest story ever, and they'll focus you on that one. | ||
| Meanwhile, there's millions. | ||
| And it just makes you think, how big is this underground of pedophiles? | ||
| I mean, how many of these people are there? | ||
| And I think it's a pretty big army. | ||
| They're pretty confident now. | ||
| Look at drag queen pedo time. | ||
| Look at all of it. | ||
| Look at Disney. | ||
| Look at all the Disney executives. | ||
| They're convicted pedophiles. | ||
| They rehire. | ||
| Rapists of children. | ||
| Here's a clip. | ||
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These films are created out of moral panic. | |
| They're created out of bogus statistics. | ||
| They're created out of fear. | ||
| And with something like Sound of Freedom, it specifically is looking acute on concepts of these child trafficking rings that are run by the high-level elites. | ||
| And only people like Tim Ballard and only people like Jim Caviezel, and by extension, only people like the ticket buyer can help bring these trafficking rings down. | ||
| But if you buy an electric car that's super toxic and has slave mines, you're saving the earth a little bit. | ||
| We're bad saying there's human trafficking. | ||
| How dare you go on CNN and chill for electric cars? | ||
| I know. | ||
| I haven't even gotten my electric car check. | ||
| I need to get on that. | ||
| So, Mike, I know you've done some speaking engagements and what have you, you know, in your career. | ||
| Have you ever had an introduction quite as good as that? | ||
| I never have. | ||
| I never will. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| You know, like we were talking about Jordan retiring. | ||
| No, I really should. | ||
| I should really pack it in after that because it's never going to get better. | ||
| Yeah, I think I would. | ||
| I would walk out to that if like if I was still regularly doing speaking tours and after that had been said, I would just play that and then walk out to Raptors. | ||
| It's a little confusing as walk-up music, but I could put a beat on it. | ||
| DJ Dan Arkeel. | ||
| That would be amazing. | ||
| The thing that's so bizarre about that is he's rambling about pedophiles and stuff, and then he says, here's a clip, and it almost is strongly implying that you are also. | ||
| Here's a clip of a pedophile speaking. | ||
| But without saying it. | ||
| Grammatically, that is what he said. | ||
| According to words. | ||
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Right. | |
| His audience knows what he's saying. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Here, listen to one of these very pedophiles that I have just described at length. | ||
| So what do you think of his rebuttal? | ||
| What do you think so far of how he's taking your commentary? | ||
| Not well. | ||
| You know, it's being attacked for things I didn't say, which is going to, I would imagine, come up a lot. | ||
| At no point in this do I ever tell people not to go see the movie. | ||
| I don't care if people go see the movie. | ||
| I would rather send my movie dollars to something else. | ||
| But, you know, it's not up to me. | ||
| All I'm doing is giving another side of what is happening with this film. | ||
| And of course, he does not include in the clip where I say, of course there is human trafficking. | ||
| Of course, you know, there is pedophilia. | ||
| No one is going to deny that. | ||
| But this idea that there are 800... | ||
| Plot twist. | ||
| Later, he plays a longer clip that does include that while he's trying to argue that you're saying that pedophilia and sex trafficking doesn't exist. | ||
| Though he plays a clip of you saying exactly... | ||
| That's a bold gambit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know if his audience noticed, but I sure did. | ||
| It's not a real win unless you tell your audience exactly how you're fucking them over and then just keep going. | ||
| It's cosmic law, man. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| That's the way you savor a victory. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I know you got this book coming out, Mike. | ||
| You got the Jewish Space Lasers. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And, you know, that's your second book, right? | ||
| You didn't have any before that, or did you? | ||
| This is my third book, but the second kind of big book. | ||
| You know, career's going well, so you probably wouldn't need to take a job as, like, an au pair. | ||
| I wouldn't, hopefully. | ||
| Well, that's good, because you can't. | ||
| You cannot. | ||
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Okay. | |
| That little smarmy, you know, guy there. | ||
| Little guy. | ||
| Look, I'm not saying he's not qualified. | ||
| In fact, if I need a babysitter, I'm going to call that guy. | ||
| Hey, will you come by and watch my babies? | ||
| Wait a minute. | ||
| I really think you're... | ||
| Him and Brian Stelter should start a daycare setting together. | ||
| Because they'll save our kids, right? | ||
| That's right. | ||
| What a nice young man. | ||
| Thank you for calling me young. | ||
| He's very proud of himself. | ||
| I am. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| Stay with us. | ||
| Wait a minute, so I'm by extension a pedophile because I'm defending this horrible film that is against pedophilia, but Alex also wants me to babysit his kids? | ||
| That was sarcastic. | ||
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He's not good at humor or humor adjacent. | |
| The dead giveaway was the grouping you with Brian Stelter. | ||
| He was not actually advocating for a Stelter in Rothschild's daycare center. | ||
| Stelter, who has been off CNN for months, and Alex, I don't think, has noticed. | ||
| Very sort of random pairing there. | ||
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Yeah, he's obsessed with Stelter, so that's a regular go. | |
| So, in this next clip, Alex extends an invitation. | ||
| To you, Mike. | ||
| And I'd like to discuss afterwards whether you're thinking about taking him up on this. | ||
| I would advise against it. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Since I just chose one little swarmy clip out of dozens that I've seen, I said, who is that CNN commentator? | ||
| What's that guy's name? | ||
| Let's put him up on screen if we can here. | ||
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His name is Mike Rothschild. | |
| We ought to invite him on the show. | ||
| Hey, Mike. | ||
| We'd like to invite him down to Texas. | ||
| We can take him to the border. | ||
| In fact, I'm officially going to invite Mike Rothschilds. | ||
| I want Scott to call him, or Daria to call him. | ||
| I want to say, Mike, we'll fly you down here, and we'll give you first-class treatment, and we'll go to the Texas border, and I'll show you little kids without any IDs or any information being handed over to random charities and strangers with no record of where they're going. | ||
| And do you think that that is a good idea? | ||
| Good question. | ||
| Now... | ||
| Because I'm just trying to find out because, you know... | ||
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Did he trick us all? | |
| I think he tricked us all. | ||
| I think he tricked all three of us as to when he was going to finish that sentence. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| Congratulations. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| That was a success. | ||
|
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You still got it, Alex. | |
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| The pauses are jarring. | ||
| It is, yeah. | ||
| So, the mind reels. | ||
| At what first class treatment from Alex and InfoWars could be? | ||
| Like, what would it be? | ||
| I mean, you'd fly business class, I would assume. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Oh, he said first class. | ||
| I'm going front of the plane. | ||
| You said it. | ||
| InfoWars first class is business. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| It's a mom and pop operation. | ||
| It's not pushing her. | ||
| It's a single talent business. | ||
| Yeah, he's in bankruptcy, man. | ||
| You'll get a couple of lone stars when you get there. | ||
| Crack a few beers with Alex. | ||
| That'd be nice. | ||
| Go get a chicken fried steak and hope that you accept Jesus. | ||
| You're given one meal per day, per diem. | ||
| That's nice. | ||
| So this invitation is on the table, I guess. | ||
| I mean, Alex has made an open... | ||
| What are your thoughts? | ||
| Well, I never heard from Scott or Daria. | ||
| Never got an email. | ||
| Check your spam email. | ||
| It must be there. | ||
| Maybe it got in my updates with all my next door emails. | ||
| So never got the official invite. | ||
| And if I was going to do this, and let's be clear, I'm not going to do this. | ||
| Wise, yes. | ||
| I don't know exactly how I would accept an invitation. | ||
| Like, technically, I mean, I guess I got. | ||
| If Alex says it on the air, I've been invited. | ||
| But I also haven't actually been invited. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because there hasn't been any logistical emails. | ||
| There hasn't been any outreach. | ||
| I know his address. | ||
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I almost wonder. | |
| Like, I know his studio address. | ||
| So, like, if you just want to go to Texas, he invited you. | ||
| Hand him a bill and say, hey, look, you said first class. | ||
| You said it. | ||
| It's an invoice. | ||
| It's an invoice. | ||
| I can invoice him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| End of the month. | ||
| I'm taking the collections if he doesn't pay. | ||
| Yeah, there you go. | ||
| I would advise you that he claims that there's snipers on the roof, though, so maybe this isn't the best plan. | ||
| Okay, yeah. | ||
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I think he's lying. | |
| We weren't tagged. | ||
| It did not appear to. | ||
| We did go to the InfoWars studios when we were in the hospital. | ||
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Oh, did you? | |
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah, we hung around outside for a minute and then got bored. | ||
| Yeah, that was very boring. | ||
| That seems extremely boring. | ||
| They have just, like, fake businesses names on the doors and stuff. | ||
| Yeah, some LLCs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I hereby officially politely decline the invitation from Infowars. | ||
| And the reason why, I mean, I get – there were actually some people who were saying like, oh, you should go. | ||
| You should – any publicity is good publicity. | ||
| I'm like, look, first of all, I don't do internet debates. | ||
| Like I don't do Twitter debates. | ||
| I don't do live stream debates. | ||
| That's just – that's not what I do because – I am beholden to the things that actually happened. | ||
| And somebody like Alex is beholden to whatever he can pull out of his mind at that moment. | ||
| And there's always going to be something else. | ||
| There's always going to be some other thing he pulls out. | ||
| If I knock down 50 insane allegations, there's going to be allegation number 51. And then I'm going to go, I don't want to do this anymore. | ||
| I'm going to get bored and I'm going to leave. | ||
| And he's going to declare victory. | ||
| Yeah, you're a coward. | ||
| You're running away. | ||
| I'm running away. | ||
| There's no gain for me. | ||
| To do this, other than just the privilege of being on Infowars, which is not actually that much of a motivator. | ||
| Yeah, but, you know, it's even worse, though. | ||
| There's not actually no win condition. | ||
| All conditions are losing conditions for you. | ||
| Right, all conditions are loose. | ||
| There's nothing even neutral in it for you. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
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I mean, who is... | |
| Now, now, here's what you do. | ||
| You go in, you sit at the desk, he starts the show, you jump up, you stand on the desk, you pee on his face, and then you leave. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I feel like you win. | ||
| In theory, it's live. | ||
| I feel like you win that round. | ||
| It's live. | ||
| There was that llama in studio one day. | ||
| Let's face it, he's not that quick anymore, so you've got plenty of time to keep him in stream. | ||
| He's going to be drunk, too, so his motor reflexes. | ||
| He's going to be moving slowly. | ||
| I would imagine the crew probably kind of freezes. | ||
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Totally. | |
| Maybe they even let it happen. | ||
| Of course they do. | ||
| They want to see him get peed on just as much as anybody else does. | ||
| But see, this is why they got Owen there. | ||
| Athletic young boy. | ||
| I don't want to be destroyed by the cuck destroyer. | ||
| I think he's lost that title. | ||
| If you are peeing on Alex from Alex's own desk, then by law, I think Owen has to destroy Alex as he has become a cuck. | ||
| He's been cucked. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's been cucked. | ||
| So yes. | ||
| That's the law. | ||
| Not only are you defeating Alex. | ||
| Verbally, you're forcing the entire Infowars infrastructure to collapse in upon itself. | ||
| This is all cattywampus. | ||
| Yeah, this is all out of control. | ||
| By the way, now that I've mentioned Owen, I had a thought about him that I want to put out into the universe. | ||
| I watched The War Room. | ||
| I very rarely do, but I watched it. | ||
| And I noticed that their introduction graphics, they just stole from Monday Night Raw from the Attitude Era. | ||
| It just says The War Room is Raw. | ||
| And I'm like... | ||
| WWE sue these guys. | ||
| This is complete infringement. | ||
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I think that's passed in a public domain. | |
| No. | ||
| I wanted to report them to at least, like, okay, cease and desist. | ||
| Something. | ||
| It's in Texas. | ||
| Send Stone Cold down there. | ||
| That would be great. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I think now that you've put it out in the universe, we've all agreed with you and we can move on. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And I didn't have the energy to actually go and find if WWE has a patent reporting thing. | ||
| So, in this next clip, Alex talks a bit about you. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| And he does say that you are likely not related to the Rothschilds. | ||
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Right. | |
| Which is big of him, I guess. | ||
| I don't think you were probably related to the Rothschilds. | ||
| The actual guys heavily invested in the Atlantic slave trade and all the rest of that. | ||
| But I'm saying the Atlantic sex trade happened. | ||
| Mass shootings are real. | ||
| Those happen too. | ||
| We're not supposed to say we're questioning a big event. | ||
| But you guys are saying there's no child sex slavery or it's all being exaggerated so people can play the part of heroes, right? | ||
| Why don't you guys queue up some of the footage we've got of the charity's lady saying, this is my baby, just handing him off. | ||
| We've got all this. | ||
| And she's back out there with another baby. | ||
| Oh, it's my baby. | ||
| And then they just hand him off to just disappear to God knows where. | ||
| But even... | ||
| Even the New Yorker magazine and the New York Times are kind of schizophrenic on this. | ||
| How so? | ||
| Because they've got articles about sex slavery and sex trafficking and human slavery of children in sweat houses, sweatshops, industrial labor, little girls getting their pigtails caught in the conveyor belt, half the scalp pulled off. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But then you're saying it doesn't exist. | ||
| No, I'm not. | ||
| And I guess you are swarmy and everything, so I guess there's no... | ||
| I mean, hell, the federal government just took off the Justice Department's website. | ||
| Child sex trafficking, child sex slavery, child prostitution, it officially doesn't exist anymore. | ||
| Because it's like the dam's broken, it's everywhere, it's just exploded. | ||
| But it doesn't matter, we have CNN with no viewers, with a cockroach like this, climbing up out of the bowels of hell. | ||
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To swarmily tell us... | |
| That it doesn't compute. | ||
| That Mr. Ballard, Tim Ballard and others just want to be heroes. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| It does not compute. | ||
| Also, I should note, I think that Alex doesn't know the word smarmy. | ||
| I was going to say, he said swarmy? | ||
| We all need to wrestle with that on our own time. | ||
| I googled it. | ||
| You googled swarmy? | ||
| Well, swarmy is apparently like a pirate term. | ||
| But, like, what tipped me off is he said swarm-a-lee. | ||
| Swarm-a-lee. | ||
| That's not a word. | ||
| I assumed he was saying smarmy. | ||
| I mean, context clues would suggest that. | ||
| Except for the fact that I think he's using it incorrectly because smarm is not the way with which you are delivering that. | ||
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Me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, Ballard, bleh. | |
| That's kind of an Owen, you know, thing. | ||
| Right there. | ||
| So, that DOJ thing also is just a lie. | ||
| They changed some language on the DOJ website, and people who like the Sound of Freedom a whole lot have decided that they have removed child exploitation as a thing that they care about. | ||
| I was once envious of the fact that people could just say stuff whenever they wanted without having any basis in reality. | ||
| But now I'm realizing it's just too, it's just lazy. | ||
| It's just too, it's like, it's empty. | ||
| It's empty calories. | ||
| It's fast food. | ||
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It's awful. | |
| It's bad for you. | ||
|
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Yeah? | |
| Yeah, you should have to struggle. | ||
| So how do you feel? | ||
| How do you feel after that clip? | ||
| Because I thought the cockroach was certainly a, it's an insult. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| It's definitely, not only is it an insult, it's coded language. | ||
| You know, it is, at least that's what I hear, is coded antisemitism. | ||
| I felt fairly similarly, but it can be difficult to tell sometimes. | ||
| So I'm glad we're kind of on the same page. | ||
| It did seem that way. | ||
| Yeah, that's another one of those words where it feels like it was chosen for a purpose. | ||
| I mean, sure, he's free associating, but, you know, again, he's got a certain thing that he does, and he knows what words are going to hit with his audience, and his audience is going to see somebody like me. | ||
| My last name's Rothschild. | ||
| I'm poo-pooing this movie that they're all in love with. | ||
| So, sure, we'll go to the dehumanizing language. | ||
| Everybody knows what that means. | ||
| Yeah, I think that's one of those, he's revealing what he says when we're not watching. | ||
| That's what he's talking, that's the way he describes people when he's talking to other white people who describe them the same way. | ||
| They don't even have to, they don't register that they're even saying that. | ||
| That's just the name. | ||
| He's sitting around talking to weathermen who won't sell out. | ||
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Absolutely, they're not selling out weathermen. | |
| So where's your headache with his commentary about you so far? | ||
| Is it more funny? | ||
| Is it more upsetting? | ||
| How are you taking this in? | ||
| It's not upsetting. | ||
| It's disturbing. | ||
| But only just because of what he's saying and the graphicness of the words that he's using and the imagery that he's using. | ||
| I'm not thinking about myself. | ||
| I've been called worse by better. | ||
| It's these horrifying images that he's putting in the heads of his listeners, and then the immediate casting of his enemies as vermin, crawling up from the bowels of hell who are not even human. | ||
| This is intended for an audience, and the audience is not me. | ||
| The audience is that terrified person, that fearful person who thinks their nephew is going to get grabbed up and sent to the adrenochrome factory. | ||
| That's who he is talking to. | ||
| And for somebody like that, this kind of sort of pornographically violent language is very alluring. | ||
| So I'm disturbed, but not for me. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, you're a prop in this, more than anything else. | ||
| And that is something that I think, you know, a lot of times, you know, we gloss over a little bit, maybe, but that is just so common with his shit. | ||
| These, like, as you're describing it, these, like, pornographically vivid images of horror and demons, quite frankly. | ||
| I write about this actually a lot in Jewish Space Lazors, talking about this train crash in Paris in the 1840s that was blamed on the Rothschilds. | ||
| The writing about those kinds of accidents was done in a very similar style. | ||
| You've got limbs severed, people holding their guts in, people fighting over who's going to drown last in the rail car. | ||
| There is that element of sort of tabloid luridness to all of this, and it works. | ||
| I think the reason that it works is because it's emotionally evocative. | ||
| It taps into that emotional center as opposed to the logical one that might be able to critically assess the information that's coming in. | ||
| You supersede that by being like, yeah, there are people on the other side of that fence who want to grab your kid. | ||
| Like, that terror and that fear is going to overwhelm your ability to be like, well, hold on a second. | ||
| Let's think this over. | ||
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Right. | |
| There's people who want to grab your kid. | ||
| I'm telling you about them. | ||
| This swarmy cockroach is telling you they're not real. | ||
| Who are you going to believe? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And when the lights go out, it's time to kill. | ||
| It's time to kill. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So we have another clip here. | ||
| And I know that you've done a fair amount of work on QAnon and such. | ||
| And so you'll be thrilled to learn who really controls it. | ||
| Meanwhile, you have the storm run by leftists and globalist intelligence agencies to take all the real stories of child sex trafficking and world government, the New World Order, and then make it look ridiculous and sound insane so that they can then say, see, none of it exists. | ||
| And then imagine being the apologist for that and saying Tim Ballard's work of decades and the convictions and all of it's nothing. | ||
| It doesn't exist. | ||
| It's a fraud. | ||
| I supposedly lost a billion and a half dollars for saying maybe a mass shooting didn't happen because the Internet was questioning. | ||
| And they said, you can never question this. | ||
| You can never question a mass shooting. | ||
| And the media dredged it up and blew it up and made it a huge deal. | ||
| And years after I said I thought it happened, I got sued, a judge found me guilty, which I was supposed to do in America, a jury was told all this stuff, and they said a billion and a half dollars. | ||
| Mine, that's two million dollars. | ||
| But under that rule, this guy's saying, child sex trafficking, he's lessening the pain of these children. | ||
| That's you. | ||
| He's poo-pooing that. | ||
| Now, I believe he has the First Amendment. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I don't think Mr. Rothschild thinks I have one. | ||
| But no, he has a right to say there's no human trafficking at the border. | ||
| There's no sex slavery. | ||
| There's no sweatshops. | ||
| He has a right to say the moon's made out of cheese. | ||
| I do. | ||
| We have a right to go down there and show you the truth. | ||
| The truth he wants to show you in person, of course. | ||
| First class. | ||
| Yeah, first class. | ||
| And the truth that I've seen of his footage so far is like... | ||
| You know, like some refugee encampments that he's videotaped. | ||
| And then there was that charity where he yelled at somebody because they weren't wearing a seatbelt. | ||
| They weren't wearing a seatbelt. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he claimed that they were trafficking children. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're not going to just hand somebody over to a reverend or a nun and they don't have a seatbelt on there? | ||
| Get out of here. | ||
| Those are child traffickers. | ||
| I think it was a hatchback. | ||
| Even worse. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So you don't support free speech. | ||
| You're an apologist for child traffickers. | ||
| How do you feel? | ||
| How do you sleep at night? | ||
| You've made a bunch of weird decisions up to this point. | ||
| I have. | ||
| You know, I sleep surprisingly well. | ||
| You know, it's all that Rothschild money. | ||
| The thing that I'm thinking is really funny is like, what does he want you to be sued for? | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's not talking about... | ||
| He's talking about like me... | ||
| Breaking some kind of law and equating it with him having broken some kind of law because he got sued in civil court? | ||
| I was going to say. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| These aren't even the same thing that we're talking about. | ||
| He could say that you're defaming Tim Ballard or something like that. | ||
| But even Tim Ballard didn't say that. | ||
| I mean, Tim Ballard was talking shit about me on Fox News, but there was never – I mean, this isn't a guy who's going to settle it with the law. | ||
| He's going to settle it with his fists. | ||
| Fist law. | ||
| But that's because Tim Ballard was talking about you, and Alex is talking about Alex. | ||
| You do not exist in the real... | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| You are not part of this. | ||
| Once again, you're a prop. | ||
| Yeah, I am a prop. | ||
| Alex is talking about how great Alex is. | ||
| I'm one of Gallagher's watermelons, you know? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Alex is having a tough day with bankruptcy. | ||
| Yeah, I think so too. | ||
| I think there might be some more going on here than just me, but that, you know, what do I know? | ||
| That doesn't sound right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, this next clip, I actually thought this was kind of, you know, when we're talking about coded anti-Semitism, certainly, like, the cockroaches, you know, aspersions of Rothschilds and stuff. | ||
| I thought this one was probably another example and really weird. | ||
| Is that Alexander Soros? | ||
| Are these, like, clones that come out of the same, like, factory warehouse or something? | ||
| The same tank? | ||
| Fake laugh. | ||
| Let me just thank the good lord. | ||
| I ain't this guy. | ||
| Poor thing can't help it. | ||
| Let's go ahead and play another club of him and we'll go to your calls. | ||
| So yeah, you and Alexander Soros are clones. | ||
| You're twin clones from the same factory. | ||
| And then also the poor thing can't help it. | ||
| I thought was distasteful. | ||
| Yeah, that's a little weird. | ||
| I usually get, like, Rick Moranis for who I was cloned from. | ||
| But sure, I'll take Alexander Soros. | ||
| See, you know, everything I've read about him seems like a nice guy. | ||
| I looked up a picture of him because I have seen him before, but I haven't seen him in a while. | ||
| And I wanted to refresh my memory. | ||
| And that's not... | ||
| I wouldn't consider you two very similar looking. | ||
| I don't think so, yeah. | ||
| I appreciate the racist aspect of the they all look alike. | ||
| They all look alike, sure. | ||
| Naturally, for sure. | ||
| Now, I'm interested to know if that does follow along, though, once he gets into weird, specific clone situations, you know, where you're like, okay, I get that you think that they all look alike, right, but then now you're talking about a specific person that's cloned. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| The internal logic could use a rewrite, if you like. | ||
| That could be the name of Alex's fucking book if he didn't choose The Great Reset. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Because it was so popular. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Man, that is interesting. | ||
| I've heard less Great Reset conspiracy theories lately. | ||
| It's been a long time since I've seen a Great Reset. | ||
| Yeah, it feels like he sold the book. | ||
| That's done. | ||
| On to the next thing. | ||
| Yeah, but do you see a lot of Great Reset talk still in the communities you pay attention to? | ||
| Yeah, there's still the Reawaken America tour. | ||
| They've been calling it Great Awakening versus Great Reset. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They've been really leaning into that language. | ||
| But I think it's one of those things where it's been said so many times that it's kind of been stripped of any real meaning. | ||
| The Great Reset is now just anything we don't like. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it's like a... | ||
| That's a real woke thing of you to say. | ||
| Totally, totally. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I was thinking, you mentioned the Awaken America folks, and that made me think of that Sgt. Pepper's album cover with all the people on it. | ||
| And just in my head, that made me think of Mike Lindell. | ||
| And then I need to ask you if you know anything about Mike Lindell's upcoming event. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| So I was... | ||
| Preparing an episode to do before we decided to record this today. | ||
| And it was one of the days of last week on Alex's show, Mike Lindell was on. | ||
| The rest of the show, not worth covering. | ||
| Dark journalist came back. | ||
| What a disaster. | ||
| But Mike Lindell was announcing that he has the solution that will fix the world. | ||
| Again, finally. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And he has a big event coming on August 16th and 17th, I think. | ||
| And he's going to announce. | ||
| He can't announce what it is. | ||
| He can't talk about what it is in advance because then the bad people will get ahead of it. | ||
| They'll stop him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But as long as he announces on that day the only thing that can stop this plan from working and saving the world... | ||
| Is if you don't do enough. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| People have to get on board and buy pillows. | ||
| Fucking Tinkerbell all over again. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Last time I went and saw Peter Pan, I just watched her die. | ||
| I just watched her die. | ||
| I didn't care. | ||
| Fuck you, Tinkerbell. | ||
| You didn't use promo code Alex for your pillows? | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| No! | ||
| How dare you? | ||
| Get the fuck out! | ||
| Get out of here, Tinkerbell. | ||
| And I have to say, what inspired confidence in me about this was they were talking about this event in very clear conman circus-type language. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And also discussing how Mike Lindell recently had to take out $10 million and a loan to keep my pillow afloat. | ||
| Who is giving him a loan of $10 million? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Same people who gave Alex money that we, you know, never learned the identity of? | ||
| Here's what we need to wrestle with. | ||
| We as regular human people need to wrestle with how much money that isn't. | ||
| Because that $10 million is fucking nothing to people. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like, the people... | ||
| If that... | ||
| That Mike Lindell is capable of behaving the way he has in a public sphere for the length of time that he has. | ||
| Yeah, should be more evidence than not that capitalism is an absurd and stupid system. | ||
| Like, the moment everybody saw Elon Musk's dumb flashing ex show up on a goddamn building, we should all have been like, oh, nope, capitalism's done. | ||
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Over. | |
| We figured it out. | ||
| This is what happens. | ||
| Yeah, we blew it. | ||
| Yeah, we blew it! | ||
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That's what we should all be looking at and saying. | |
| So, speaking of blowing it, this next clip. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Alex plays a longer clip of yours. | ||
| And in this clip, I think that you precisely explain a tactic that Alex uses. | ||
| And then, after the clip, Alex tries to use that technique. | ||
| And, I mean, I think it's very transparent to me, but I wonder, like, to his audience if they can even see through this. | ||
| It's fascinating. | ||
| Rude. | ||
| Play another club at hand and we'll go to your calls. | ||
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And you seem pretty familiar with him because he doesn't really hide his association with this real wild plot that involves, you know, drinking the blood of children and things like that. | |
| No, he doesn't hide it at all. | ||
| And you have a lot of people who are in this world of QAnon who say, oh, they don't know what that is. | ||
| They've never heard of it. | ||
| They're just asking questions. | ||
| With somebody like Jim Caviezel, he is openly embracing it. | ||
| He's openly using its catchphrases and its concepts. | ||
| He's speaking at QAnon conventions. | ||
| And this film is being marketed to either specific QAnon believers or to people who believe all of the same tenets as QAnon but claim they don't know what it is. | ||
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And The Sound of Freedom does focus on a real issue of sex trafficking. | |
| But that theme, it's sort of like that kernel of truth that feeds the QAnon conspiracy theory. | ||
| Tell us how those two things work together. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And the most durable and the most believable conspiracy theories are not entirely false. | ||
| There's something in them that is true and the rest of it is false. | ||
| But the believers point to the one true thing and they say, oh, you don't believe that this particular thing is true. | ||
| In terms of child trafficking, we know trafficking is real. | ||
| We know it has real victims. | ||
| No one is denying that. | ||
| But these films are created out of moral panics. | ||
| They're created out of bogus statistics. | ||
| They're created out of fear. | ||
| And with something like Sound of Freedom, it specifically is looking at QAnon concepts of these child trafficking rings that are run by the high-level elites, and only people like Tim Ballard and only people like Jim Caviezel, and by extension, only people like the ticket buyer can help bring these trafficking rings down. | ||
| So we're not denying it's happening. | ||
| We're just denying Jeffrey Epstein, Mossad, CIA, and MI6 ran tens of thousands of little girls and boys. | ||
| Not to say that what Alex said there is the kernel of truth within the conspiracy, but Jeffrey Epstein does exist. | ||
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Right. | |
| So it is kind of, if you are very generous to Alex, you can take that kernel as the part that justifies the larger conspiracy, which is exactly what you were talking about. | ||
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Right. | |
| That's exactly what I'm talking about, is that if a conspiracy theory is 100% false, it's much easier to knock down than if it's 99% false. | ||
| If there's something in it that's real, that's the thing that you seize on. | ||
| Everything else that revolves around it is nonsense, but that one thing is real. | ||
| So yeah, Jeffrey Epstein, bad guy. | ||
| We're better off without him. | ||
| That does not mean all of these other things are real. | ||
| It is a rhetorical trick that... | ||
| Conspiracy promoters have been using very effectively for a long time. | ||
| Definitely. | ||
| But don't you see the brain that Alex has, even though the game has just been called out, he still retreats to that game because it's so effective. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's... | ||
| I don't necessarily even think that it's... | ||
| Let me put it this way. | ||
| What makes it meaningful is that it doesn't matter if Mike did or did not say any of that. | ||
| It doesn't matter what I said. | ||
| Yeah, in the clip itself, you could have been like, listen, we know that Jeffrey Epstein is the person who is real, but people are building a structure on this, and Alex would be like, oh, so you believe in Jeffrey Epstein, but you don't believe in every other billionaire. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| It's the tone of voice with which he says the whataboutism. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Hence why debate with somebody like Alex is not only pointless but actively dangerous for me. | ||
| I mean not physically dangerous but harmful to my reputation because there's no way I'm going to win. | ||
| There is no winning. | ||
| Winning isn't real. | ||
| It's just his playing field and if we're playing lacrosse for the first 10 minutes and then suddenly we're playing football, he makes the rules. | ||
| He calls out the tune and I don't want to dance to it. | ||
| Yeah, the best you can hope for in a situation like that is mitigating damage to whatever your real life is, whether it's getting threats from people or professional credibility and stuff like that. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| One thing I did appreciate about that little clip is the way that the host said... | ||
| Drinking the blood of children. | ||
| Like, for us, we'd just be like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I drink the blood of children every day. | ||
| I walk down the street. | ||
| Oh, I've got a child arrayed. | ||
| You know, like that kind of thing. | ||
| And she's like... | ||
| She's scandalized. | ||
| It's so beautiful. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it's just so bad. | ||
| You don't even want to say it too loudly. | ||
| People like us exist to keep people like that happening. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what that is. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| We've got to make a Sound of Freedom type movie about you. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| There you go. | ||
| I baffled that Alex played that much of your clip. | ||
| It is a testament to how much he must not think that the audience is listening. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because it is directly contradictory to everything he's saying. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's wild. | ||
| So you bring up the lady being scandalized about the blood. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, Alex wants to talk about the blood. | ||
| Of course he does. | ||
| There's power. | ||
| There's power in the blood. | ||
| He weaves it into an anti-trans conspiracy that I think is cattywampus. | ||
| I'm going to just keep saying that. | ||
| You're riding that word out today. | ||
| It's gamesy. | ||
| Imagine an even crazier thing. | ||
| I mean, drink blood. | ||
| Oh, that's not happening. | ||
| Imagine. | ||
| Of course it is. | ||
| Imagine. | ||
| Oh, Drenochrome. | ||
| That's so Avatar. | ||
| It's a new movie. | ||
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What? | |
| No, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Imagine. | ||
| The state secretly talks to your autistic seven-year-old who's a boy and gives them lollipops and candy and sends them to a meeting with other kids that say they're really another sex. | ||
| And then you're secretly put in the databases kept secret from your parents. | ||
| And then the parents are approached when they're seven or eight and told your child wants to transition to another sex. | ||
| And if you complain, multiple states have passed laws to take your child from you. | ||
| Or even if your child ran away, they would take them. | ||
| The government would then put them in a secret facility and never tell you where they went, and you would just think your kid had disappeared. | ||
| That's law in Washington State. | ||
| That's law in other states. | ||
| Other states. | ||
| Yeah, the we make you think your kid disappeared law of 2023. | ||
| Yeah, so Alex is getting into the blood libel, adrenochrome type stuff, and then he's like, well, what about this? | ||
| What about this elaborate fantasy I have about trans people? | ||
| Which is fun. | ||
| And it's also the ever-present fear in movements like QAnon of child protective services. | ||
| You have all these crimes that have happened because somebody thought their kid was being sold to CPS, was being taken by CPS. | ||
| There is a real strain of paranoia here. | ||
| Putting aside the blood libel stuff and all that other stuff, there is a real fear in a lot of these people of... | ||
| The government taking away their kids because they didn't use the right pronouns or they didn't honor the wishes of the transitioning child. | ||
| I mean, it's just this constant appeal to fear. | ||
| Well, that's definitely something that predates all of this by a long, long way. | ||
| All of Alex's career, you can find... | ||
| Some real serious, vivid fantasies about the evils of the Child Protective Service. | ||
| All while ignoring the ridiculous number of people who've lost their kids because they got caught smoking weed one time. | ||
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Right. | |
| I think Alex might signal to that early in his career. | ||
| Maybe earlier in his career. | ||
| Early on, yeah. | ||
| But now he doesn't, and we know why. | ||
| There was definitely a cool, I'm cool with weed thing earlier in his career that has slipped a little bit, but yet... | ||
| He still gets high with Rogan because it's fun. | ||
| Because it's fun. | ||
| Because he's a celebrity. | ||
| Doing drugs is fun. | ||
| That's why we all do them. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, you got to do them before they have Rogan killed. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Because he won't sell out. | ||
| I think he will. | ||
| But not the weatherman that he employs. | ||
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Nope. | |
| Never. | ||
| $105 million. | ||
| Oh, never! | ||
| Rogan. | ||
| We've already got Ari Shafir and Burt Kreischer. | ||
| How say you now? | ||
| Tom Segura's dead in the yard. | ||
| He would definitely wake up with Tom Segura's head at the bottom of his bed. | ||
| So, speaking of heads, here's a good transition. | ||
| Alex decides to spend a little time making fun of your headshot, but he does not... | ||
| Call it a headshot. | ||
| And you'll like the term that he uses. | ||
| But meanwhile, I just want to say, what's up with the glamour shots of Brian Stelter and Mike Rothschild and other people? | ||
| Other people. | ||
| Like, do they not know how psychotic they look? | ||
| Like that Alexander Soros deal. | ||
| We know Biden doesn't know how crazy he looks. | ||
| Because he's like, you know, brain dead. | ||
| But just imagine you release this as your glamour shot. | ||
| Just think you're lucky stars every day that you're not Brian Stelter. | ||
| Every day. | ||
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Wow. | |
| All I have to say is, wow. | ||
| Wow. | ||
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Wow. | |
| So how could you choose such a tacky glamour shot? | ||
| Yeah, apparently Alex doesn't understand the concept of an author photo. | ||
| Smiling in a picture? | ||
| Who's your talent agency? | ||
| Who got those shots for you? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Did you get a classic 4x4 pad? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| One of them, you're dressed up like a doctor. | ||
| Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, definitely. | ||
| Got my clown one. | ||
| Your background extra sheet. | ||
| Yep, yep. | ||
| Got my lawyer, my official, like, pen in the mouth, like, very serious. | ||
| Oh, I like that one. | ||
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Yep. | |
| I remember back when I was an aspiring comic, an open-miker, and I wanted to jumpstart my career, and I said, I need a glamour shot. | ||
| I need a stelter. | ||
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Yep. | |
| It's so petty. | ||
| It's so petty. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Yeah, it is very petty. | ||
| It shouldn't be all that surprising. | ||
| He makes fun of Stelter's appearance all the time, so you've been sort of... | ||
| You know, ushered into that club. | ||
| I don't think it's that it occurs that is surprising. | ||
| The depth to which it is petty is shocking. | ||
| Like, you would not experience this level of petty. | ||
| You'd be like, I expect this man to be petty. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| He's a petty man. | ||
| And then it hits you and you're like, Jesus Christ, there's a bottomless well of pettiness here. | ||
| This guy might as well be Tom Petty. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| That's right. | ||
| He's breaking my heart. | ||
| You can't come around here no more. | ||
| Last Dance with Mary Jane. | ||
| That happened in 2003. | ||
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Alex had his last dance with Mary Jane. | |
| He's an American girl. | ||
| Free Fallen. | ||
| Stop doing it! | ||
| I wasn't going to do it! | ||
| I was stopping myself. | ||
| I think that that's always kind of fun. | ||
| I'm a little jealous. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| Because I've only had my appearance mocked by Harrison Smith. | ||
| He called, I think, both of us neckbeards. | ||
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And to a certain extent, maybe Liz. | |
| Liz Williamson called my apartment rumpled. | ||
| Oh, that's fair. | ||
| In the New York Times. | ||
| This is famously a bone of contention. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| She was right. | ||
| It's a fun thing that we did. | ||
| So Alex takes some calls. | ||
| This is amazing. | ||
| I can't wait. | ||
| And not only does he take calls, he takes calls that end up involving you. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| I mean, look, I'm making fans left and right here. | ||
| Yeah, now we gotta see what the people think of this terrifying Mike Rothschild's character. | ||
| So in the past, we've had callers that are beloved characters. | ||
| Like Old Man House Phone is a guy that we like. | ||
| One of the greats. | ||
| Louisiana Dentures. | ||
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Love him. | |
| Charles. | ||
| Charles from Louisiana. | ||
| He's a gentleman. | ||
| Dan from Illinois. | ||
| Dan from Illinois sucks. | ||
| That guy's a Nazi. | ||
| Well, yes, that is true. | ||
| He was a Nazi. | ||
| It's a notable moment when he's come up. | ||
| So these are like classic callers from way back in the day who would call in all the time. | ||
| Nowadays, there's one, and it's this guy named Carlos. | ||
| And he calls in all the fucking time, and Alex gives him so much time on the show to the point where I think that Carlos is like... | ||
| Feeding him money or something. | ||
| Like, this is a brokered program. | ||
| Anyway, Alex and Carlos riff a little bit about you and how you're a pedo denier. | ||
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Oh, sure. | |
| There you have visitors to the island, which are in the tapes apparently. | ||
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In a laptop. | |
| Twelve people. | ||
| Wait a minute, wait a minute. | ||
| Hold on a second. | ||
| CNN's Mike Rothschild told me there are no elites, no islands, no government involvement. | ||
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So I'm going to have to... | |
| Carlos, you know if CNN says something, it's true. | ||
| Are you saying there's government and elite involvement in sex trafficking to blackmail people? | ||
| Because Mike Rothschild said that that's not real. | ||
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Well, he's the pedophilia denier. | |
| No, no, no. | ||
| He's on CNN, sir. | ||
| That's like, it's impossible for him to be wrong. | ||
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Well, worms in the head, I don't know. | |
| But I certainly know that he is denying that, let's say, there's no pedophilia in Brooklyn. | ||
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Would you care to Google that? | |
| What? | ||
| Yeah, Mike. | ||
| Google that. | ||
| I'm not going to Google pedophilia in Brooklyn. | ||
| Do it! | ||
| Put that in your Google search history right now. | ||
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Right now. | |
| Do you know where to find pedophiles in Brooklyn? | ||
| I realize I don't actually even know. | ||
| You don't live in New York, do you? | ||
| I don't live in New York. | ||
| I live in LA. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I wouldn't, yeah. | ||
| I don't know why he chose Brooklyn. | ||
| Well, I think I know why. | ||
| So, Carlos is a little bit annoying. | ||
| And then he also, after the end of where I cut the clip, he gets into how one of the Rothschilds was on the manifest Epstein's logs. | ||
| And it's a bit of a non sequitur that is treated not quite like a non sequitur. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| So did you say any of those things, by the way? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| I didn't say any of that. | ||
| Maybe next time. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Maybe next day, you know? | ||
| Next time you're on CNN, give it a try. | ||
| Give it a try. | ||
| I will say all those things, but that won't matter. | ||
| No, it won't. | ||
| Because I'll just have not said something else. | ||
| Yeah, go on and say, just do a satanic ritual on air. | ||
| I will. | ||
| See how he plays that one. | ||
| That's where I feel like we're at. | ||
| You'll probably ignore it. | ||
| I feel like we're all in eat the red card territory, you know? | ||
| If somebody says, oh, you lied about this, just be like, yeah, you're fucking right I did. | ||
| And I'll do it to your face and your mom's face! | ||
| Is that a reference to my story? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay, wow. | ||
| That resonated with me. | ||
| I didn't know if that was, like, vernacular. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| For me... | ||
| Yeah, that story is stuck with me forever. | ||
| That's pretty sweet. | ||
| I love that story. | ||
| So, Mike, I'll give you the short version of this. | ||
| When I was a kid, my parents only let us play soccer because the other games were like, I don't know, not European enough or something. | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We would play, and on my brother's team, there was this guy who was kind of a badass. | ||
| And so in one game, he got a yellow card, and he ate it. | ||
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Wow. | |
| And so immediately, the ref pulled out a red card. | ||
| He gave it to him, and he ate that, too. | ||
| See, I feel like that's just such a great story of, like, what did you think was going to happen? | ||
| You thought that you would exercise your real authority finally, and the truth is you have none. | ||
| Because I'm going to eat this red fucking card and then walk away. | ||
| You're nothing to me, yeah. | ||
| So that, in sort of the metaphor, that is doing a satanic ritual on CNN? | ||
| Yeah, totally! | ||
| Absolutely! | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Oh, they say he does satanic rituals? | ||
| Fucking let's see if I can do one. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| If you think satanic rituals are real and you believe that I do them, then should I do one on TV? | ||
| It should work. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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So... | |
| Eat the red card, man! | ||
| Don't do that. | ||
| See if you can summon a demon! | ||
| Mike, don't do this. | ||
| Summon a demon, Mike. | ||
| Mike, summon a demon! | ||
| There's an angel and a pride devil month on your shoulder. | ||
| Yeah, pride demon month. | ||
| Did we go on in my pride demon month shirt? | ||
| Angel month isn't until August. | ||
| You've still got a couple dates. | ||
| So we got another caller here, and he wants to take up the issue of the adrenochrome. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And he has a historical example and citation that I think is very important. | ||
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Okay. | |
| And I just wrote an article about Sound of Freedom, actually, and I talk about Hunter S. Thompson. | ||
| Hunter S. Thompson and Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas talk about adrenochrome, okay? | ||
| And his famous line is, as your lawyer, I advise you to take this adrenochrome, okay? | ||
| And meanwhile, they want to deny it exists. | ||
| It's some QAnon conspiracy that adrenochrome isn't a thing and that it doesn't exist when it's right in our face. | ||
| It's always right in our face. | ||
| Well, his lawyer paid him in adrenochrome, who was a Satanist, and he later admitted that he did pay him in adrenochrome. | ||
| He later admitted that. | ||
| It's in the congressional record. | ||
| Dr. Gonzo? | ||
| Yeah, I'm going to take this with a lot of salt. | ||
| Yeah, maybe. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, because he was an author and he made stuff up. | ||
| And the noted liar. | ||
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What? | |
| And the noted liar and exaggerator. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What was the, like, in Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail 76, like, didn't he have, he had that whole thing about, like, Gary Hart being addicted to, like, Quaaludes or something? | ||
| I think so, yeah. | ||
| And then, like, he reported it as rumors are that Gary Hart is, and he's like, who are you hearing these rumors from? | ||
| I made it up! | ||
| Made it up! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yep, made it up. | ||
| So, I mean, like, he's not somebody who necessarily is going to be great. | ||
| But, to his point, to the caller's point, Adrenochrome is a real thing. | ||
| You know, it's not a fake thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, it's an actual thing. | ||
| It can be synthetically created. | ||
| There's no reason to use humans. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You can buy it now. | ||
| I've actually – I talk about this in the Q book. | ||
| There's like drug exploration websites where people have tried to take it and it's like – Yeah, the trip reports. | ||
| Yeah, it sucks. | ||
| It gave me a really bad headache. | ||
| Yeah, I remember early on doing this podcast, I think, like, one of the early times that Adrenochrome ever came up, because Alex was bragging to Eddie Bravo about how the elites drink blood, and I tried to do some, like, math of how much it would take, like, how many humans it would take to get, like, that dose that that person had that was, like, bad on that trip report that you're describing, and it's, like, it's a ridiculous amount of people you would have to kill. | ||
| No, the simplest argument against Adrenochrome is just you can get better stuff cheaper. | ||
| Whatever you want about your pedophile billionaire is fine, but they get coke the same way the rest of us do. | ||
| It's cheap and it's available. | ||
| It's a lot of work for your average drug explorer. | ||
| Totally! | ||
| I think the whole thing about it being the craziest trip is just from Hunter S. Thompson. | ||
| Yes, totally from Hunter S. Thompson. | ||
| And somewhat from Huxley, I think, too. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Also, not the most honest. | ||
| Or, I mean, take honesty and lying away from it. | ||
| They're high out of their minds. | ||
| Yeah, they were a lot of the time very strung out. | ||
| Call some credibility into question. | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| So, Alex gets another caller, and this person brings up Jim Caviezel's interview on Steve Bannon's show. | ||
| Did you watch that? | ||
| I did. | ||
| I did. | ||
| It has a distinctive Rothschild tinge to it. | ||
| So not good? | ||
| No. | ||
| Not good? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| This guy liked it. | ||
| Oh. | ||
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Yeah, it's always good to talk to you. | |
| I saw the movie. | ||
| It was very riveting. | ||
| I also saw a freaking interview where Jim Caviezel was talking with the other buddy with the thing show called The War Room, like Owen. | ||
| What's his name? | ||
| Steve Bannon? | ||
| Steve Bannon. | ||
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I don't know if assertions or maybe he's seen some data that was collected by that team that's been rescuing all these kids, but they were talking about how... | |
| Whenever the kids are killed, a lot of that biological material ends up in all these different bio labs, which you alluded to earlier. | ||
| And also, they've heard the word ambrosia in the past, which is what they call adrenochrome in the... | ||
| Well, there's a little more than that. | ||
| Adrenochrome is a term, mostly the pituitary gland or the adrenal gland, a lot of that. | ||
| Ambrosia is an ancient term for drinking blood of children that was done in Black Sabbaths and Black masses. | ||
| What? | ||
| So that's in thousand-year-old satanic books. | ||
| That's in museums that they would... | ||
| You see my vampire movies. | ||
| Dracula will get a baby and he'll bring it to his women and they will all bite it and drink its blood. | ||
| That's a Black Sabbath, is they lance the child, drink its blood, have sex with the blood, torture the child for about a day, and then cut it up and eat it. | ||
| Raw. | ||
| In a sex orgy. | ||
| So, yeah, it's called ambrosia. | ||
| That's all completely real. | ||
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That's all completely real. | |
| Do they put a tarp down? | ||
| It's real. | ||
| That seems like a lot of cleanup. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| I think you do it in a room that has, like, a tilt downward. | ||
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Sure, sure, sure. | |
| Totally. | ||
| But, I mean, that stuff doesn't come out. | ||
| I was just listening to that, and I was thinking, I want Alex to get interviewed by that CNN anchor that was talking to you. | ||
| So you think that they're drinking children's blood? | ||
| Well, they lance the baby in the blood. | ||
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They cut the baby off. | |
| And they have sex in the blood. | ||
| For two days. | ||
| And they eat the baby raw. | ||
| That's in the government documents. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
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It's in the museums. | |
| It's in the museums. | ||
| That ambrosia was not the nectar of the gods, famously. | ||
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No. | |
| That doesn't come up in their conversation about ambrosia. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| The reason that it's a thing. | ||
| The reason what that actually is. | ||
| And ambrosia salad doesn't come up. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| The jello salad? | ||
| Do you see it? | ||
| Family get-togethers in the Midwest. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| Yes, the... | ||
| Other people know this. | ||
| I know it. | ||
| Salad in a plastic tub with a little... | ||
| Turn it over. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I am so lazy that... | ||
| I was just thinking about it. | ||
| I was like, I would love some Jell-O. | ||
| And I'm like, I'm not going to make Jell-O. | ||
| I'm in the middle of recording the show. | ||
| I'm in the middle of recording the show. | ||
| I can't even deal with Jell-O. | ||
| Yeah, you have to like heat it up and then it has to set. | ||
| Nah, fuck that noise. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've never made Jell-O before in my life. | ||
| Just the cups? | ||
| Just the cups. | ||
| Just the cups. | ||
| So, interestingly, this next caller asks for money on his cash app, I believe. | ||
| Sure, I like that. | ||
| Or some other app. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| This was kind of, it bummed me out. | ||
| Brazen. | ||
| Well, certainly. | ||
| I also was surprised that Alex let it fly. | ||
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Okay. | |
| And then he suggests something that I think is bad. | ||
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I just want to give a quick shout out quick. | |
| I called Sunday night. | ||
| I talked to Owen. | ||
| I want to thank Drew. | ||
| I want to thank Henry. | ||
| And I want to thank Ellis. | ||
| They all helped me out. | ||
| I was in speed. | ||
| Still kind of am. | ||
| I'll go out there. | ||
| Jason Lawler, 9. I'm Venmo. | ||
| I'm living in my car. | ||
| I lost my job to illegal aliens. | ||
| And, yeah, if a long-time listener, any info where he wants to help out, I'm not begging. | ||
| I just ask him. | ||
| Well, that's why we've got to start building communities during the collapse. | ||
| And just say, no Satan worshippers allowed. | ||
| And under the First Amendment, we can form churches that allow us to be only amongst our own people of every race, color, and creed, but Christians. | ||
| We're going to have to declare it, folks, and just 100% get with Christians because you're either going to be a Christian or you're going to be with the devil. | ||
| And that's just the way it's going to be soon. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That's tolerant. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Christian separatist communities. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, segregation. | ||
| Big time. | ||
| Well, I mean, now, sure. | ||
| In the past, obviously. | ||
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Forever? | |
| Forever. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| I always, I mean, Alex has talked about this a little bit, but, you know, it's just such an offensive idea. | ||
| We're going to have a town and the whole thing is a church so we can keep people out. | ||
| I mean, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know what to do if you think God is actually real, you know? | ||
| Like, why not? | ||
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Hmm. | |
| There's a real God. | ||
| That dude, he's pissed off all the time. | ||
| But I think he's making up elaborate plans for shit. | ||
| Yeah, no, I would definitely want to live in my own separatist community. | ||
| I think if, you know, if God's real, then he or she would want, or they would want us to all embrace each other. | ||
| Even if we have different beliefs. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| So, I don't know. | ||
| I think that separatist communities would be against the will of an omnipotent, omnibenevolent being. | ||
| Boy, you sure sound like a Satan worshiper, my friend. | ||
| I'm not going to be allowed. | ||
| You are not allowed in those communities. | ||
| Not in your pride demon bones, kid. | ||
| No. | ||
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Not going to happen. | |
| Shit. | ||
| What about tolerance? | ||
| Kill him! | ||
| God said so! | ||
| It was him. | ||
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He said that. | |
| He said that. | ||
| It was actually me. | ||
| I didn't say it. | ||
| I was the one who said it. | ||
| So, Mike, we have one last clip here. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And, unfortunately, it's not about you. | ||
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Oh, well. | |
| Nah, I'm sorry. | ||
| You can't win them all. | ||
| It is about using the Sound of Freedom as a weapon. | ||
| Wonderful. | ||
| So, maybe still interesting. | ||
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I think this is going to be the movie. | |
| Everybody listening to my voice and your voice for many years knows that the fact of the matter is we all know this. | ||
| But a lot of people, like you said, too many numbers, too many things, so it doesn't really personalize it. | ||
| I think this movie did an excellent job of that. | ||
| I'm going to take my children as well, my two daughters, and I have a son that we're going to go check. | ||
| By the way, that's a good point. | ||
| Even though this scares children... | ||
| I think people should take young children as young as five or six to this because they need to know how dangerous the predators are. | ||
| All this pedo LGBT stuff should train your kids to get kidnapped or recruited in and then they don't have to kidnap and they've already got them and you don't know. | ||
| People need to take them to this and connect to the LGBT thing. | ||
| Yeah, so Alex's take is that you need to take your kids to this. | ||
| And use it to connect LGBTQ folk to this movie and demonize them with it. | ||
| Use it as a weapon against LGBTQ folk. | ||
| Yeah, my parents used to show us, especially when we were really young, they used to show us a lot of snuff films to be like, hey, just in case you were worried outside. | ||
| This is what happens to you all the time. | ||
| Man, and if Alex is worried about, like, sex education at school because he thinks the kids, like, five years old shouldn't be aware that sex exists, like, you shouldn't be aware that... | ||
| Sex trafficking is good? | ||
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Sex trafficking. | |
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Maybe not in that vivid of terms. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| What you do, okay, and here's... | ||
| Now, this has been proven a lot through psychology, all right? | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| So, a young child, as it's learning about sex, right? | ||
| What you do is only reveal that sex can be a horrible, nightmarish experience. | ||
| Traumatizing stuff. | ||
| And at no time reveal that sex could also be a thing that people use for intimacy, or just pleasure, or fun, or any number of different reasons. | ||
| Right, and the reason that you do this is because life gets boring after a while, so you want to give them a good 10-15 years of issues to work out, just to give them something to do. | ||
| Yeah, they cost you a lot of money, so you should really cost them quite a bit. | ||
| The only way you can prevent your child from being horribly traumatized is to horribly traumatize them. | ||
| I really wish that that weren't literally exactly what they believed. | ||
| Oh, no, that's totally what they believed. | ||
| Yeah, no, that's 100% a word-for-word explanation of their belief system, and it is very frustrating. | ||
| Mike, I haven't seen The Sound of Freedom. | ||
| Have you seen it? | ||
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The Sound of Freedom. | |
| You know what, guys? | ||
| I've suffered enough. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, no, I haven't seen it. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| I was asking because, like, I get the sense that there's probably some pretty scary parts. | ||
| From what I understand of it, it's a lot of sort of terror and imagery, but I don't know that there's actual violence in it. | ||
| Because, you know, you can't bring a movie, kids do a movie with violence. | ||
| I mean, that's right out. | ||
| But, you know, traumatic images of, like, brown people. | ||
| Horrible things that might happen to them. | ||
| Fear. | ||
| Maybe a jump scare or two? | ||
| Probably some jump scares. | ||
| Some coded anti-Semitism, probably. | ||
| Who's really running this? | ||
| Well, I mean, you gotta get that in there. | ||
| You can't have a cake without the frosting. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| So I understand that you were also mentioned and talked about on the 13th. | ||
| I went back and I listened to that episode and I couldn't find it. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| It may be in there and I missed it or something, but, and I'll be totally honest, I did turn it off a little early because Alex does an extended interview with Dr. Rima Labo and I just was not having it. | ||
| Not going to happen. | ||
| From my understanding is that it was a little bit on the 13th, but mostly on the 12th. | ||
| Well, this, outside of maybe a tiny bit of repetitious stuff, this is the picture that we have of Alex's take on you. | ||
| You're swarmy? | ||
| Swarmy. | ||
| Very swarmy. | ||
| Which is like, I think I would accept swarmy. | ||
| As an olive-skinned Greek man who's very aggressively condescending towards you. | ||
| Involved in shipping, possibly. | ||
| Yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| Or if you're talking about the Wu-Tang killer bees. | ||
| That's definitely... | ||
| They are swarmy. | ||
| They are swarmy. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| So how do you feel, Mike? | ||
| Where is your head at now? | ||
| You know, it's... | ||
| It's hard to say. | ||
| I don't feel insulted. | ||
| I'm not mad. | ||
| Please don't put in the paper that I got mad. | ||
| It's bizarre that someone of Alex's ilk would spend this much time getting angry about a four-minute segment on CNN. | ||
| True. | ||
| He talked about it much longer than it was actually on, probably played too much of it. | ||
| To actually be effective. | ||
| But I don't know that he really cares about being effective. | ||
| He just needs something to be mad about for an hour of the many hours that he has to kill that week. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| Yeah, and I've seen him do more with less in terms of killing time. | ||
| You know, he's pretty good at that. | ||
| That's one of his great skills. | ||
| I think what's very weird and I resent greatly is that the way that the right is doing the Sound of Freedom thing is they're trying to pull an 80s rap music type thing where it's like, oh, they don't want you to see this shit. | ||
| As though we're trying to prohibit them from watching the movie. | ||
| And I don't appreciate being told that I'm wagging my finger. | ||
| Watch whatever fucking movie you want to watch. | ||
| It's bullshit, though. | ||
| All movies are bullshit. | ||
| It's not real! | ||
| Use your own advice, eat the red card, and tell people not to watch the movie. | ||
| Fine, fuck it. | ||
| Don't watch the movie. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I think you shouldn't. | ||
| I'm going to moral grounds. | ||
| You shouldn't watch movies that lie to you about whether or not things happened. | ||
| I think I'm going to title this episode, Mike Rothschild is very mad. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| It's got to be surreal, though. | ||
| It's surreal. | ||
| It's surreal in the context of everything that was going on in my life at that moment. | ||
| You know, with my mom, with getting COVID. | ||
| And of course, Alex doesn't know any of that. | ||
| Nobody knew any of that. | ||
| It's just surreal. | ||
| It's bizarre to be talked about this much. | ||
| It's bizarre to be lied about this much. | ||
| It's bizarre that so many people are convinced that I am a version of something that doesn't exist. | ||
| Ultimately, all you can do is hope that it gets my name out there. | ||
| It's gotten me some legitimate coverage. | ||
| Move on with your life. | ||
| By the time we air this, they've stopped talking about Sound of Freedom mostly and they've moved on to whatever the next horrible insult is. | ||
| Probably something to do with women's soccer or Barbie or whatever it is. | ||
| It was just a little strange to be the right-wing flavor of the week. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| In two weeks, you could be like, hey, did you guys see Sound of Freedom? | ||
| They'd be like, I have never heard of what are you talking about. | ||
| That was a deep state false flag. | ||
| We were never in the show of that. | ||
| Yeah, once some more reporting is done on some of these stories, it'll be a false flag. | ||
| That was Jim Ballard's Antifa. | ||
| No, right now we're mad that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is wearing shoes! | ||
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Right. | |
| That is a scandal. | ||
| Yeah, that is a scandal. | ||
| I wonder, honestly, like, if he'll cover you again. | ||
| I get the sense that he might if you go on TV again. | ||
| He might. | ||
| He might if I go on TV maybe with the Rothschilds book because that's the perfect intro right there or if there's more Sound of Freedom stuff or if something else in that world comes up. | ||
| He's opened the can of worms and he needs the content and so why not? | ||
| He can beat up on me. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| Yeah, and for better or worse, I mean, you make a good target for him. | ||
| I do. | ||
| Absolutely, I do. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And what you're saying, too, I think is totally right on. | ||
| If there is ever a time, it's when your next book, when you're out promoting Jewish space lasers, because so much of that intersects with a lot of the maybe more foundational aspects of his worldview. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think that could possibly be something that is seen as threatening. | ||
| Yeah, and I talk about him in the book. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| I think this is the time where he really surprises all of us, though, and goes into three hours about nominative determinism and the effect that it plays in everybody's life and, you know, whether or not we see extreme examples of it or if they're all just coincidences that we're trying to ascribe meaning onto. | ||
| See? | ||
| That's going to be an exciting three hours. | ||
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I'm really excited to listen to it. | |
| Also, just to say, In this episode, he said he was going to get to calls in the first hour, and he got to them in the third. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, that nominative determinism, he's going to get to it. | ||
| He's going to. | ||
| A little bit later. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Once the 2023 predictions come out. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And once we find out what the secret of 2017 is. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Any day now. | ||
| Any day now. | ||
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So, Mike, speaking of any day now, when's the book coming out? | |
| When can people get it? | ||
| Book is out September 19th. | ||
| You can get it in. | ||
| I know. | ||
| That's so close. | ||
| We're actually celebrating with a live show in Glasgow. | ||
| Hey, that's awesome. | ||
| Your book release party. | ||
| I would love to. | ||
| I was in first class. | ||
| I mean, obviously. | ||
| It's good enough for Info Wars. | ||
| It's on Alex's time. | ||
| September 19th in hardcover e-book. | ||
| There's going to be an audio book. | ||
| I can pre-order it now. | ||
| That would be really cool. | ||
| You know, the one thing that I've kind of thought about with everything that's gone on is, I mean, obviously, losing your mother is sucky. | ||
| I don't recommend it. | ||
| The thing that's bummed me out a lot is that she's not going to get to read this book, which sucks. | ||
| So, I mean, you know, I don't have a GoFundMe or anything like that. | ||
| But if at some... | ||
| You feel inclined to pre-order this and spare two brain cells for my mom. | ||
| That would be awesome. | ||
| Yeah, I support that message. | ||
| It's a good book. | ||
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I read it. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Also, I was wondering, when Alex put out his book, he did something really cool, which was release a series of overpriced silver coins. | ||
| Are you going to do that? | ||
| I am now. | ||
| I am now. | ||
| Smart. | ||
| I know a gold guy. | ||
| If there's anything I've learned in life, it's that you should take business cues from Alex Jones. | ||
| He knows what he's doing. | ||
| Well, Mike, thanks so much for joining us. | ||
| This was a lot of fun. | ||
| I feel like we have just done a snake eating its own tail, but in a fun way. | ||
| Yep, that's the best way to do it. | ||
| Hurrah! | ||
| Hurrah. | ||
| Hurrah, Boros. | ||
| Oh. | ||
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There you go. | |
| There you go. | ||
| Can't do better than that. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| We will be back. | ||
| But until then, Jordan, we have a website. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| We're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| And you are at RothschildMD. | ||
| RothschildMD on Twitter. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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We'll be back. | |
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DCX Clark. | ||
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*Loud singing* | |
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |