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July 28, 2023 - Knowledge Fight
01:36:58
#832: July 26, 2023

Knowledge Fight dissects Alex Jones’ July 26, 2023, rant—where he predicted Biden’s impeachment over Hunter’s alleged crimes, blamed vaccines for Bronny James’ cardiac arrest (despite pre-vaccine death spikes), and claimed globalists will replace all life with silicon-based hive minds powered by solar panels. He even tied his father’s dental implant expertise to a $450K underground cyborg project, then pivoted to Hunter Biden’s "pedophilia" theories and a sci-fi "biological ark" escape plan. The hosts mock the contradictions, absurdity, and shifting narratives, exposing Jones’ reliance on fiction over facts—proving his conspiracy theories collapse under scrutiny. [Automatically generated summary]

Participants
Main
a
alex jones
infowars 18:19
d
dan friesen
44:32
j
jordan holmes
29:24
Appearances
s
scott bronson
infowars 00:35
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys.
Shang me are the bad guys.
Knowledge and fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
I need money.
Andy and Pansy.
Andy and Pandy.
Andy and Pansy.
Andy and Pansy.
Andy.
unidentified
Andy.
alex jones
It's time to pray.
Andy and Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a fish tin color.
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your room.
Knowledge fight.
Knowledgefight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes.
Like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
unidentified
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
alex jones
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
Quick question for you.
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot today comes in the form of a cheers and jeers.
You thought I was going to say in the form of a riddle or in a poem.
jordan holmes
I genuinely did not like either of those three things.
dan friesen
Okay, well, it's a cheers and jeers.
Which would you like first?
jordan holmes
I'm going to go with jeers.
dan friesen
Jeers.
Go to Doritos.
I found a flavor that they put out called Tangy Ketchup.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Yep.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
I know that the Canadians, they like a ketchup chip.
I've heard about this.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I'm aware of it.
I've seen it.
And I actually think it works okay on potato chips.
So I was interested to see how it would transfer to the corn chip family.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
Well, people think potato chip, fry, not much difference between them.
You put them in ketchup.
That sense.
dan friesen
Yeah, you don't dip your ear of corn and ketchup.
jordan holmes
You sure don't.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
You just don't.
dan friesen
You shouldn't.
jordan holmes
You don't dip corn tortilla into ketchup.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
You put salsa on that shit.
dan friesen
Right.
And that's kind of why there has been like a salsa flavor of Dorito that works.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Well, those flavors are compatible.
jordan holmes
Corn and salsa.
We've all been there.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Man, not good.
Not as bad as I thought it could be.
But you know, like not to the point where I threw it across the room or anything.
But very jeers.
jordan holmes
Okay.
They're going to get through every possible condiment.
What is the worst possible?
dan friesen
Well, they did have that like tang a spicy mustard one that I hated and I got some black some blowback for.
I mean, some people like listeners who enjoy that mustard one.
jordan holmes
Like, are we talking like a bit gray coupon?
Like, are there going to be mayonnaise Doritos?
dan friesen
Give them time, I'm sure.
I think some of them probably like incorporate mayonnaise.
Like some of those like weird street taco flavors or whatever.
You know, there's one of those.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, no, like street corn.
Yeah, but I bet those would be delicious because again, street corn is delicious.
dan friesen
No, no, I'm not talking about that.
I'm saying that some existing flavors probably have in their like seasoning mix.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
A little bit of that mayo seasoning.
jordan holmes
Mayo seasoning.
Okay.
dan friesen
All right.
But yeah, it was, I had the chip in my hand.
I was like, why do you make more red flavors, Doritos?
We have enough.
And it made me think of there was the Doritos roulette, I think was the name of it.
Do you remember that?
No.
It was a bag of Doritos, and most of them were regular, but a couple of them in the bag were ridiculously spicy.
jordan holmes
That's crazy.
dan friesen
And so you could put them out and like, hey, maybe you'll get the crazy hot one.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
I like that.
dan friesen
was fun but then i was like chip based on a russian game that kills you I enjoy that.
jordan holmes
I enjoy that.
dan friesen
I liked that.
And I thought it was kind of fun to be like, ooh, is this going to be the spicy one?
And I thought about putting some of these ketchup ones in with regular chips.
And it would be the inverse because it's like, is this going to be the bad one?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I don't know.
That's not bad.
dan friesen
So, yeah, it just made me want regular Doritos because they're way better.
jordan holmes
I don't know how many times we're going to have the Dorito conversation.
dan friesen
It's really tough to just beat the nacho cheese.
jordan holmes
I mean, you accidentally, here's the problem.
What do you do if you find out you nailed it at the beginning?
It's crazy.
You keep striving, but you realize that you're never going to get to the top of the peak because there's no higher peak.
dan friesen
Well, I think they learned the wrong lesson from ranch working out.
Because Cool Ranch was the second flavor.
And so, like, they're like, we're two for two.
jordan holmes
We're two for two.
dan friesen
And now we're two for 100.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is an issue.
dan friesen
I guess some people like some of the other flavors, but those are good two.
jordan holmes
Those are two that are good enough to create a multi-billion dollar franchise thing.
Yeah, I get you.
dan friesen
And now on to cheers.
jordan holmes
Okay, who's cheers?
Oh, the M ⁇ Ms. What are we talking about?
dan friesen
We are talking about Caramel Cold Brew Min M's.
jordan holmes
Oh, if you want to try that one, yeah, I'm going to have to try it.
That's my shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, they are fantastic.
I am quite into, I like coffee as a flavor.
I think it's a good flavor for candies and what have you.
And then I think it has the right amount of caramel, the right amount of chocolate, just a well-made M ⁇ M.
jordan holmes
I think M ⁇ M. Can confirm that is spectacular.
dan friesen
It's great.
Great.
I thought when I saw the bag, I thought, like, that's probably going to be okay.
And then I was shocked by how much I enjoyed it.
I think that M ⁇ Ms is a, they have a better battering average than Doritos.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, it's hard to fuck up an M ⁇ M like centrally because you've got candy coating, chocolate covering.
dan friesen
Some of them have been disappointing.
jordan holmes
That's definitely true.
dan friesen
But they've had some real bangers.
This is up there.
I mean, Pretzel is.
jordan holmes
Pretzel is absolutely.
Yeah.
dan friesen
The peanut butter one, you know, you thought like.
jordan holmes
You can't not eat peanut butter M ⁇ M.
dan friesen
Well, you got the peanut M ⁇ M, which is a classic, and you're like, now you're going to try and get into the peanut butter game, too?
Well, well played.
jordan holmes
I mean, the tough part that you never would have expected them to really nail was the peanut butter.
Because you think there's no way they're going to get the right creaminess.
They're going to try and go too far to the Reese's where it's almost a little like solid green.
Nope, they nailed it.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Well done, Eminem.
jordan holmes
Well done.
dan friesen
Cheers.
Cheers.
Do better Doritos.
So what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
Dan, you will be surprised to hear that I have two bright spots today.
unidentified
Damn it.
dan friesen
Wait, technically, I kind of, I mean, I had a split bright spot.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, you're the, yeah.
dan friesen
No, and what?
jordan holmes
No, no.
My first bright spot is my wife is going on her artist retreat to Portugal.
Very excited for her.
dan friesen
Because you get to have a bachelor week.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, I mean.
dan friesen
Bang around town, go to the casino, go to the titty bar.
Do all the things that you want to do, but the ball and chain won't let you.
jordan holmes
I do appreciate that.
And then at the same time, I'm like, oh, you know, she takes me out of my hole more than I normally would be.
My cave is perfect.
dan friesen
Yeah, she's going to be away, so I'm going to snuggle with the dogs and play some video games.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep.
I will be underneath several blankets with several puppies around me having a great time.
dan friesen
It does sound fun.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But also, I mean, she's going to have a great time.
jordan holmes
Oh, I'm so excited.
I mean, the last one she went on was to Portland last year.
dan friesen
Do they only go to places?
jordan holmes
Well, next year they're going to Port-au-Prince.
dan friesen
Oh, okay.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Damn it, that was going to be mine.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, how many?
I wasn't sure how many ports there were.
I mean, there's tons.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But no, she's.
dan friesen
Port of Call New Orleans.
She's going to watch Bad Lieutenant.
jordan holmes
Nice.
That's a good one.
That's a good pull.
No.
She made so much.
She made so much great stuff.
She's so inspired.
She's so talented that I'm always so excited whenever she's given the opportunity to just be like, I am going to be an artist with no distractions, no nothing.
I'm going to express myself through my greatest talent.
And it's always exciting.
dan friesen
Portugal should be a lot of fun, too.
jordan holmes
Oh, it'll be great.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It'll be great.
dan friesen
I was making that Lego world map, and Portugal was one of the few countries that I'm like, I know I'm putting this on here just by its shape.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It was very clear to me where Portugal was.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that's a good point.
dan friesen
But yeah, that should be fun.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it'll be great.
And then the second bright spot is.
dan friesen
This is going to be a lot of people's bright spots.
jordan holmes
I think it will be a lot of people.
Well, specifically, it will be 180 people's bright spot.
Yeah, we had to add a second show.
We didn't have to.
We had to.
We had to.
dan friesen
We chose to.
jordan holmes
We chose to add a second show.
It's at the same venue in London.
So now we're doing the 26th and the 27th.
The tickets are going to go live on Monday morning in Britain at the time of 10 a.m. local time.
Okay, so if you are in that area of London specifically.
dan friesen
10 a.m.
jordan holmes
10 a.m.
dan friesen
And then you can do the math from there.
jordan holmes
I mean, other parts of the world.
There's 23 other time zones.
Figure out which one you're in.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's true.
So yeah, I mean, the other one, I think that we were not convinced fully that it was going to sell out.
We have very low self-esteem.
But it did.
And so we added a second show.
So as it stands now and will stand.
Forever.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
There will never be any coming back now.
dan friesen
So Glasgow on the 20th.
jordan holmes
Yes.
The QED on the week.
dan friesen
23rd and 24th.
And there will be a live show there.
jordan holmes
London on the 26th and 27th at the Amersham Arms.
dan friesen
This will be our tour.
jordan holmes
This will be our tour.
dan friesen
And I feel like if somebody wants to make a poster for the tour, if someone wants to design a poster, I'm all for it.
jordan holmes
I'm not going to say no.
dan friesen
And here's what I'd like to see out of that poster.
jordan holmes
If I'm going to commission a poster on air right now.
Yes.
dan friesen
I will work out.
We'll negotiate some sort of fee.
Sure, sure.
And what have you.
But here's what I want to see.
I want to see me as Jeeves and Jordan as Birdie Wooster.
unidentified
Ah.
dan friesen
That's what I want to see.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, that does sound about right.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
We have a dynamic.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Celine as Aunt Dahlia.
jordan holmes
Oh, that'd be fun.
No, it's so funny is that when we started trying to think about the tour, I was planning on booking four shows.
And then I had such a hard time with all of the venue bookers just being like, screw you guys.
I don't give a shit.
You know, which is fine.
dan friesen
That's the normal response.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
How would you know who we were?
So then it's like it got compressed down to two.
And I was like, ah, I finally got two.
And now we're back up to four.
So it'll be good.
dan friesen
Yeah, that was kind of the hope.
I mean, we didn't want to go too far from the Manchester of the, like, because the QED is the like sort of anchor of the trip.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
We didn't want to go too far.
And I was kind of hoping we'd be able to get maybe into like France or Ireland.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Sure.
But maybe another time, another trip or something.
jordan holmes
Our eyes are about the correct size of our stomach right now.
dan friesen
And now we've, next, we have to figure out a way to get down to Australia.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's going to be tough.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
See if you can offend those people too.
I want to get your ass kicked by a Scot and then get your ass kicked by somebody down in Australia.
jordan holmes
By at least seven people for all the continents.
Yeah.
I feel like I have at least talked shit about every single one of them so far.
And I do believe that I have talked shit about Antarctica.
Most people can't say that.
They'd just be talking shit.
I am real, man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I want to go down to Australia and find some of those people from Survivor Australia and have them kick your ass.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, I make no pretensions towards being some sort of manly man willing to fight back or whatever.
You will probably kick my ass.
dan friesen
Yeah, you'll just scream about how they love the queen and then you're getting straight in the nose.
Yeah, then they're going to lay you down for the three-second tan.
jordan holmes
But that's fine.
You know, we get my ass kicked and we become friends.
We go out for a drink.
unidentified
That's great.
jordan holmes
I'm happy with it.
dan friesen
We'll see about that.
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to do.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
We're not just bullshitting about candies and live shows.
We do have a show episode.
Okay.
And we're talking about the present day.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
We're talking about Wednesday.
jordan holmes
You know.
Yeah.
dan friesen
July 26th, 2023.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I'm going to say something.
We're only covering the first two hours.
jordan holmes
Because the third one went great.
dan friesen
No.
I turned it off.
He started interviewing that guy, Dark Journalist.
And I know.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What the fuck is he doing?
We have talked about Dark Journalist.
dan friesen
I got to Dark Journalist here.
unidentified
I'm like, I don't want to talk about Dark Journalists.
jordan holmes
I don't talk to comic book characters trying to be alive.
dan friesen
Dark Journalist is either a joke or an assassin.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I don't want to fuck with either.
So, anyway, they were talking about these hearings on alien disclosure.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And I just lost my patience.
And I said.
jordan holmes
Calm down.
dan friesen
No, thank you.
Nothing worth talking about.
I'm out.
So we're going to get down to the first two hours, which there is some, you know, some fun stuff.
Okay.
So we'll get down to business on that.
But first, Jordan, let's say hello to some new wonks.
That's great, I did opening the email with the names to cold read.
So, first, thank you so much.
Samuel Sammy, you can call me Sambo.
Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
I don't like that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
What are you doing?
There was a lady who was on Survivor named Shambo.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
That's better than Sambo.
jordan holmes
Wow, I forgot that he.
I just grabbed it because he was the one who put it in there.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Well, you're still a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
I copied and pasted.
unidentified
Next.
dan friesen
Praying every day for Alex to remove those microchips from the skulls of the homeless, like he promised.
Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
I think it was in the arm, actually.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Next, somewhere beyond the sea, Jack Cousteau's got a FEMA camp, FEMA death camp waiting for me.
Thank you so much, you're an IO policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Sorry I didn't sing that.
Next, Sir Royman McSamuel.
Thank you so much, you are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
We got a couple technocrats in the mix, Jordan.
So thank you so much to I'm Carbon Viber and I'm a policy wonk.
You are now a technocrat.
Ooh, contradictory.
And Lucky underscore Bun, the bunny VTuber for the rest of us.
Parentheses, I cannot overemphasize the importance of that underscore.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
alex jones
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
Daddy Shark.
Bomb, Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser, little, little kitty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
Now, some people have been derisive about how I said I was going to make a new Technocrat drop, and I haven't.
I didn't say I was going to make it right now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't believe that there was a time to stamp on it.
alex jones
Be cool.
jordan holmes
I'm going to make it has no time limit.
alex jones
Right.
jordan holmes
It's coming.
I'm going to make it.
dan friesen
Chill.
jordan holmes
When is that statement not true?
Only once I have made it.
dan friesen
There's a lot of things to do around these here parts.
I just finished getting all the stuff cleaned out of my old apartment.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You should have seen me.
It looked like I got out of a swimming pool.
Sweat just oh God.
Yeah.
Like I'd gone in with my clothes on.
jordan holmes
I had to leave my yoga class after only 45 minutes today because I had sweat so much that I couldn't hang on to the yoga.
dan friesen
Was it hot yoga?
jordan holmes
It was so hot in there.
They didn't put the air conditioning on.
Bickeram?
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
It was supposed to be just regular shit.
Vinyasa.
Anyways.
dan friesen
So we start here, and Alex has some interesting ideas about who's going to be president coming up.
Apparently, Biden about to be impeached.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, the deep state New World Order occupiers of our republic are now pressing the lever on the toilet and beginning to flush the turds.
Known as the puppet Joe Biden and his cratch head fedophile son hunter.
I told you it was imminent.
I predicted Tucker Carlson would be fired within the next month.
One month later, he was fired.
And I've said on record in the last two weeks that they're imminently going to charge Hunter Biden with more charges.
They're going to take his plea deal away and they're going to file impeachment charges now.
Didn't say anything.
Because Biden didn't step down.
They don't want to have the embarrassment of frying their puppet.
But Biden's trying to be a real boy.
He's trying to stay in charge.
And they're saying, no, no, no, you must make way for Gavin Newsom.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Roger Stone is seldom wrong.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
He's definitely one of the best political minds out there.
He really says they've got Big Mike ready.
And it'll be Big Mike and Gavin Newsome.
I think it should be Big Mike and somebody else.
People say, oh, they removed Biden.
It'll be Kamala.
No, she knows to step down when she's told.
That woman's even dumber than the brain-dead Biden.
He's as dumb as a box of rocks.
He's as dumb as an entire quarry of rocks.
You see, the more mindless rocks you have, it creates the negativity in the stupidity.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
All right.
So do you get the basic conception?
jordan holmes
Okay.
So Biden is going to resign because Hunter Biden is, you know, criminal.
Right.
dan friesen
But also Biden's criminal.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Well, Biden's criminal, and he was always going to be stepped down because that's another part of the point.
dan friesen
Hunter's stuff reveals Biden's crime.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
And apparently, Hunter is in charge of the country somehow.
jordan holmes
That was weird.
That was a very strange thing for me.
dan friesen
We brushed that aside.
jordan holmes
All right.
So then Kamala is going to not.
She's just going to leave because she does what she's told by whom?
dan friesen
The globalists.
jordan holmes
Right.
Right.
But then, but she would be president.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
So, like, they really couldn't tell her what to do at that point.
Like, any ability they have to tell her what to do comes through the fact that she has no real power.
But once she has real power, she can push back against them.
dan friesen
Tell that to JFK, my boy.
jordan holmes
That's a fair point.
That's a fair.
dan friesen
So here's what's going on.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The globalists have said, Biden, you're done.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You're done.
Step down.
jordan holmes
Yeah, get out of here.
dan friesen
Step down.
jordan holmes
But he won't go.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
He's not going to go.
dan friesen
This ice cream sandwich-loving son of a bitch won't go.
jordan holmes
He's not going.
dan friesen
He has too much pride.
He thinks he's a real boy, but he's really Pinocchio.
He won't step down.
And so now Kevin McCarthy has been given the green light to impeach him because the globalists are the only thing that's been holding back the Joe Biden.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, wasn't the Democrat plan to impeach Joe Biden so then Kamala could take over?
dan friesen
Wait, that's what you think Alex is saying?
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Back in the day, whenever we were talking about who was going to get elected in 2020 or whatever.
No, no, no.
Plan was that Joe Biden would be electable and then he would be assassinated, or he would step down on his own volition so Camulet could become the first person.
dan friesen
But that wasn't the Democrats' plan.
That was the globalist plan.
jordan holmes
Wait, so then we're just doing the plan then.
dan friesen
I guess.
jordan holmes
I guess that's what we're doing.
dan friesen
But all of it's not real.
jordan holmes
Well, there is that.
dan friesen
There is just shadow puppets that Alex is seeing in his mind.
Yeah, so that's where we're at.
And so now Michelle Obama and Gavin Newsom are going to be put in.
jordan holmes
Oh my God, that's who they meant by big mic.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Motherfucking.
dan friesen
Fuck off.
I'm sorry I didn't clarify.
jordan holmes
I have no idea.
dan friesen
It's become so.
jordan holmes
I thought it was Mike Pence.
dan friesen
No, it's become such a shorthand with Alex now.
jordan holmes
Fucking hell.
dan friesen
He had that whole thing where he was playing like, hey, it's just a joke.
I'm just joking about Michelle Obama.
And then no, he's just descended fully into being serious about he's saying she's trans.
jordan holmes
Do you know why I'm more willing to entertain the defenestration concept is because the conversation has become more playground.
It has become more and more and more childish to the point where they're just pointing at your face while you're jumping rope going like, oh, your name is different now.
Your name is different now.
Your name is.
And that's it.
Like, what do you say to children?
dan friesen
You put them in timeout.
jordan holmes
Something.
dan friesen
Which hopefully will happen to Alex sooner than later.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway, this is where we're at politically.
jordan holmes
It's going great.
dan friesen
I mean, I think in the real world, other things are happening, but this is where Alex's headset.
jordan holmes
I've seen other things happen.
dan friesen
So there's been some issues with some heart things.
That's a great way to start this introduction for things with heart stuff.
jordan holmes
There's things with hearts.
dan friesen
LeBron James's son had a cardiac arrest.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I read about that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And so this has led to a conversation about COVID and heart issues.
And Alex has some thoughts about this.
alex jones
That's coming up.
And you knew they'd do it.
You know, I said this was obvious three years ago they were going to pull that COVID causes heart damage.
And so all the heart attacks exploding is because of COVID.
But it's the people that are the most vaccinated with the poison shot that are having the high levels of strokes and blood plots and heart attacks and myocarditis.
And here it is.
That's what they're saying now.
USC basketball.
How a COVID-19 infection could have impacted Bronnie James Hart.
But Bronny James took all the vaccines, all the experimental shots.
I thought he was protected.
Oh, well, that's it.
Was he didn't take enough shots?
Well, just then, LeBron, I think she'd start taking one every month and see how it does for him.
Because these folks will never admit they were con.
Can't do it.
dan friesen
In the Forbes article about this, it said that it's unclear whether his son was vaccinated or not.
There's no evidence either way.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
You probably assume that he is, but I mean, Alex is just reporting stuff that he can't really confirm.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
It's important to understand what's going on here, though.
Alex and his ilk are complicit in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people that they told not to get vaccinated, and they have a lot of questions to answer over their actions.
But that's never going to happen.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
They're never going to face the music.
So when there's some piece of information that calls their conspiracy into question, they just expand the conspiracy another level deeper to get themselves off the hook and make sure the audience doesn't think that they're actually the ones who are being conned.
It's been very obvious for a long time that heart attacks and cardiovascular issues are a side effect and a serious concern for people who have had COVID.
In fact, the clear evidence that this is the case is probably a large part of why folks like Alex have an obsession with calling every heart attack or case of myocarditis a vaccine side effect, because they need to divert attention.
If they accept that it's related to COVID, then they have to accept that they encourage people to leave themselves vulnerable to exactly the situation that we're seeing.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
Blaming the vaccine doesn't really work here, though.
Cardiovascular disease-related deaths were steeply increasing after COVID, but before the vaccine was released.
According to the American Health Association, there were 874,613 deaths of this sort in 2019 and 928,741 in 2020, quote, the largest single-year increase since 2015.
If what Alex was saying were true, you'd expect to see the jump after the vaccine rollout, not before it.
Because the vaccine didn't exist and wasn't in circulation, it can't be a contributing factor to the giant jump in cardiovascular deaths seen in 2020, but COVID can be.
And all credible scientists agree on this.
For at least the first year after getting COVID, people can be in quite an increased risk.
Not a huge increased risk, but one that's worth being aware of and talking about heart-related side effects for a variety of reasons.
And it's possible for you to still have this risk and be vaccinated.
Vaccination doesn't work 100% of the time, so you can be vaccinated and still get COVID.
And the complications that come from getting COVID could still be an issue for you, despite your vaccination status.
That being said, vaccination greatly reduces your likelihood of contracting or transmitting the virus, so the odds are reduced.
Alex understands this, but if he shows awareness that he understands this dynamic, it pokes holes in his ability to put up the facade he needs to protect himself from the reality that his advice likely killed a ton of his fans.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No, every study and news article and so forth is like, since the vaccine was released, we've seen a complete distance between Republican-leaning areas and Democrat-leaning areas.
And it shouldn't even, but the problem is even they, even they are unwilling to accept, like, it's not, like, they have to put it within those red-blue terms.
dan friesen
But, dude, that makes that, but that's where.
jordan holmes
And that's only reinforcing of the reason that the thing exists in the first place.
dan friesen
But what you're saying, you know, the higher incidence of COVID-related deaths in areas with larger red populations, let's say, that's a perfect example of something that would be contradictory to their conspiracy, which is why the conspiracy goes another level deeper, which is why Alex says, like, oh, yeah, they sent the really bad killer shots to red areas because they wanted to kill patriots.
jordan holmes
The problem is the solution is the problem, and the problem is fine.
dan friesen
And there's always another level down that the conspiracy can go to explain away the reality.
jordan holmes
I mean, you said in 2020 before the vaccine was out.
Oh, those excess deaths?
That was them testing the vaccine on a new group of people.
Done.
It will always, it's turtles all the way down.
If that's what you want to believe, that's what it's going to be.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Dumb.
unidentified
Dumb.
dan friesen
So anyway, back to Biden.
All right.
jordan holmes
Is he okay?
dan friesen
No, he's going to die.
alex jones
Oh, shit.
It's official.
Biden's refused to step down to make way for the next puppet operation.
And so Speaker McCarthy, as he's been given the green light on the deep state, says House readying to bring impeachment charges against Joe Biden imminently, and they've withdrawn the plea deal for the sweetheart deal for Hunter Biden.
Now he's facing serious jail time, and the word is they're getting ready to indict him for human trafficking.
And more.
Of course, all of this will not happen if Joe Biden just takes the blame for the whole new order agenda and fades away.
And I've been predicting that it's in the cards.
Not saying it's going to happen.
But if he refuses to step down and makes a scene that a right-wing extremist, close quote, is going to truck bomb him or shoot him at one of his events, and then they'll recycle his death, turning it into that he's his patron saint like George Floyd and the right-wing that did it.
I really think they're going to recycle him that way.
I hope and pray that's not the case.
I actually pray that God sent angels to protect this man so that he can stay on trial for all of his crimes and not be turned into a martyr.
dan friesen
So, like, what is the situation that Alex wants?
Like, does he want Biden to step down?
I guess not, because that's fulfilling the globalist agenda.
jordan holmes
Right.
And they want that to happen, so it can't happen.
dan friesen
Alex doesn't want him to be killed because that's going to be blamed on right-wingers.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And that also fulfills the globalist agenda.
jordan holmes
But he also doesn't want him to be president.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Because he's not the actual president.
dan friesen
The only thing that Alex, I guess, could be supporting is defend Biden at all costs until the election.
jordan holmes
I mean, I guess that's and then beat him in the election.
It is either that.
dan friesen
He is a Biden supporter.
jordan holmes
It is genuinely he has to go the he has to go the two extremes.
Either it's blow the entire DC area up or you're an ardent Biden supporter.
You have to try and get him to get away from it.
dan friesen
We've got to get him to the election.
jordan holmes
We've got to make sure that he's alive.
Everything has to go to that day.
dan friesen
Now, this guy sucks, but we have to keep him in office.
jordan holmes
We don't want him in office.
We want him not dead while he's in office so he can be not in office when he's not supposed to be.
dan friesen
So Alex needs to oppose the impeachment of Biden.
jordan holmes
Yes, absolutely.
100%.
dan friesen
Because if the impeachment's successful, that's what the global parties want to do.
jordan holmes
Yes, it's the global parties.
dan friesen
Because then Kamala Harris will come in and then she'll step down and you'll get Gavin Newsom in there.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
So I'm so confused.
jordan holmes
No, it's somebody who is, I mean, just they've gone through to the other side.
dan friesen
But in reality, it's all shit talk.
In reality, it doesn't mean we're trying to bring reality to bear on this, and it doesn't really matter.
The only thing that is real in there, essentially, is like, man, someone might take a shot at Biden, and I want to make sure people know that I have a conspiracy locked and loaded for that one.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
But I mean, part of what's fun about this is just taking what is clearly a clownish, dumb, stupid idea, and then being like, what if somebody tried it in real world terms?
What would the results be?
Not good.
dan friesen
Well, it's also fun to, you know, whenever Alex says some stuff like this, to be like, if this is true, what else must be true?
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And follow the chain.
unidentified
Follow it.
dan friesen
And like, that's what you end up with.
He has to, like, really support Biden.
jordan holmes
See, but that's why they're so bad at investigating because they can't understand that that chain doesn't end.
If this is true, then this must be true.
Means that if that's true, then this must be.
Do you understand?
It always goes on.
dan friesen
Yeah, there are implications behind things that you say often.
And when you're kind of just a dumb shit talker, you end up saying things that you don't realize.
Yeah, yeah.
So no one has a memory, it turns out.
We know Alex says this a lot.
He spends a long time in the first hour rambling about how no one has a memory.
And it's because everyone's like, it's so hot now.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Climate change is happening.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And no one has a memory of the hot things that happened before.
jordan holmes
In the second half hour, he forgot he had spent the first half hour talking about how nobody else.
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
He has a memory.
Okay.
No one else.
No one else.
jordan holmes
Are you sure?
unidentified
Yeah.
Okay.
alex jones
Remember Dory from Pun Intended from Little Nemo or Finding Nemo?
dan friesen
What's the pun?
alex jones
And it's a species of fish that five seconds interest.
Goldfish have about a 12-second.
And the fish can't ever remember anything.
So from minute to minute, she's meeting her friends and not remembering that they were her friends.
Now, that's a literal issue.
Well, it's the same thing saying global warming.
You got to pay carbon taxes.
You got to get fish have it tough.
And I have kids.
We've got to euthanize old people.
I mean, humans are bad.
Carbon dioxide's evil.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
We've got to get rid of it.
But that's why now, every time there's a particularly hot summer, and this is a hot summer, but you see headlines saying Death Valley record tip 130.
And then the record tip is 134 in 1913.
Look it up.
But they're just lying to you.
And it turns out last year it hit 130, and the year before it hit 129.
But yeah, the temperatures fluctuate a year.
But I have this weird thing called a really good memory, and I remember the temperatures when I was 10 years old and 14.
And 13.
You know why?
Because we had a year of heat spells, and people were dying on the football field during two-a-days, so they canceled the second two-a-day.
And I sure loved that year because I only had to play two-a days in the morning and not go back after lunch.
And it was exhausting.
I remember it being 113, 114 degrees.
jordan holmes
Yeah, three days are illegal now.
alex jones
But now they tell me 105, 106 last week is the hottest ever recorded in Texas, in the area of Texas where I live.
unidentified
Now, that's just not true.
alex jones
But that's why they lie to you.
dan friesen
Alex is a straight-up psychopath if he was glad for the heat because he didn't have to do two-a-day practices while it was killing kids all around.
Or I guess maybe that was the COVID vaccine back then, too, when Alex was a kid.
Whoops.
Alex kind of revealed that young athletes dying while playing their sport isn't completely unheard of and totally a new thing.
jordan holmes
Well, he has a memory.
dan friesen
He's intimately familiar with counterexamples that ruin his own conspiracy theory, but who cares?
Alex misunderstood a headline in The Guardian that said that Death Valley was nearing the global heat record, which it set in 1913 at 134 degrees Fahrenheit.
He's further just not grasping what a lot of these articles that are coming up are about.
As it turns out, there are a bunch of people who don't believe that reading from 1913 was accurate, largely because other stations nearby registered much lower readings.
UCLA climate scientist Daniel Swain is one of the higher-profile folks who's skeptical of this, and he considers 130 to be the highest reliable reading from that time, and therefore he considers 130 to be the record in Death Valley.
There's a lot of discussion surrounding this as the plausibility of Death Valley recording temperatures over 130 in the near future is very real.
It's something that could happen.
And would that be a record based on the skepticism of these other scientists that consider this reading not to be reliable?
Who knows?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Alex says that he remembers the temperatures from when he was 10 and 14.
He was born in 1974, so that would be 1984 and 1988.
His birthday is in February, so he would have already had his birthday by the summer.
So these years would be reliable towards what he's saying.
The highest temperature recorded in Dallas, because that was when he was living in Dallas, in 1984 was 108 on August 19th.
In 1988, the highest temperature was 106 on August 23rd.
In 2022, the highest temp recorded was 108 in July 20th.
And this year, on July 18th, it hit 106.
In 2018, it got to 112.
Purely looking at maximum and minimum temperatures is a good way to make a headline pop, but it's not really the most reliable way to approach this issue.
If you look at average temperatures, it shows a little bit more of the picture.
For instance, in 1984, the average temperature in July was 85.5 degrees, whereas in 2022, it was 91.8.
The average in June was 82.5 in 1984 compared to 2022's reading of 86.1.
Even more stark are the winter numbers.
The average for January 1984 was 39.3 degrees compared to January 2023 coming in at 52.1.
If you take the whole year into account, the average temperature in 1984 was 65.7 degrees, and in 2022 came in at 68.3.
There are considerable jumps here.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
There are a ton more variables that go into the picture of the climate, but just from a temperature standpoint, it's dumb to pretend that Alex's memories of football practices from when he was a tween mean anything.
It feels like it means something to him, and he's proud of his pretend amazing memory, but this is just stupid.
This means nothing.
And you can, I mean, one of the most documented things and like easy to find stuff is like temperature records.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's so easy to find.
Yeah.
People just wrote down the number.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It didn't even take long and it didn't take up a lot of space.
dan friesen
They're all in these spreadsheets and everything.
High school football players dying is really sad and it's unacceptable just to ignore that, but it also does happen a bit, unfortunately.
We need to do a lot better in terms of making some of these things safer.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, that's why three days are illegal.
Now, I almost died.
Like, when I was doing three days, I had heat exhaustion.
I collapsed, and they had to bring me into a dark space and put ice packs in my armpits and my groin and behind my neck.
Like it was, it was that kind of thing.
And that was just like, come on, what are you doing?
Everybody else isn't collapsing, you know?
And it's like, all right, okay, we are there.
That's the early grand for you.
dan friesen
Two days were so bad when I was in junior high and I played football.
And like, it was so bad that I faked an injury.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like I came up with like some knee thing to be like, well, I want to play, but I can't.
I think, if I recall correctly, I think I went to a doctor and even was like, help me out here.
jordan holmes
I got such a reputation for being lazy because I was like, I don't, I'm not really going to do this, fellas.
That's just not what's going to happen.
But I just, I was just good enough to get away with it.
So that was the nice part.
dan friesen
In hindsight, I wish I had had an instinct of like, I just don't have to play.
jordan holmes
I just don't have to do it.
dan friesen
There's no one making me do it.
jordan holmes
Try and make me.
dan friesen
What are you going to do?
Instead of fucking go to a doctor and fake a condition.
jordan holmes
I'm 17 and you're 40.
Why are we doing this?
Yeah.
It's silly.
dan friesen
So we get to a lot of talk about temperatures.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
What was the hottest day in Texas history almost 30 years ago?
The West Texas community of Monahan said 120 degrees located in Ward County, about 30 miles from Odessa.
The extreme temperature was marked by June 28, 1994.
Hey, let's go look at, let's go see what Monahan's look up.
Let's look up West Texas temperatures right now.
Pull up the West Texas heat map on July 26, 2023.
And I'm going to bet you, it's a little earlier in the day right now.
It's 11 o'clock Central, 11:14.
I'm going to bet it's 95 degrees in West Texas right now.
And I bet at 4 o'clock when it peaks, I bet it's 17.
Let's sit back during Owen's show today at like five o'clock.
That's the four o'clocks when it peaks.
And I bet you money in Monahan, it's 105, 106, 107.
Catch my bad.
And I bet you right now it's 95.
Let's pull up West Texas.
Let's pull up Monahan's and let's see what it is.
Let's blow that up.
I said 95, 96.
Pull it up.
And right out there where Monahan says, it's 96.
And right there on the Mexico border, it's 100 degrees.
Okay.
dan friesen
Okay.
In 2022, the average temperature in Monahan's for July was 87.2.
In 1984, it was 80.9.
In 1988, it was 77.7.
It's substantially warmer.
That said, Alex was specifically talking about July 26, 2023.
The high temperature recorded that day was 99.
So he was just a little off the mark there by six or seven or eight degrees, depending on his headjump.
jordan holmes
So close.
dan friesen
At 4 p.m., it was around 97 degrees.
And at this point, when he's on air, it would have been in the high 80s, low 90s.
Alex is way off, and he owes me money because I took his bet.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
But also, like, I'm going to guess that what he saw, like the heat map or whatever, was like high predictions or something.
Because at that point, it was not 95.
jordan holmes
What I both appreciate and don't appreciate about climate change in 2023 is these types of arguments I don't even care about.
I don't have schoolyard shit.
Yeah, totally.
And like, we lived through Snowball in Congress.
I've seen the arguments from people who were dumb enough to believe them 20 years ago.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Right now, we all know it's happening, and we all know there's billionaires.
Everybody, the government, the billionaires, everybody knows, and there's just too much money.
So until they get less money or we take it away from them, it's just going to happen.
I'm not even mad about it anymore.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You do something about it.
dan friesen
I agree with you, too, that this is kind of a pointless argument that he's making.
But there is a reason that I'm engaging with it.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
And I don't think it means anything.
There's a point behind it about his the way he the provenance of his information.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
This idea of like back when I was a kid, there was two days and people were dying.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
There is something there in terms of the way that he's making his argument about the present through this distorted feeling that he has about the past.
Yeah.
And this goes on.
And I think that there's something valuable about recognizing that, even if the argument on its face is stupid.
jordan holmes
Right.
I see what you're saying.
The problem I have with all of this is because I can't do anything about it, the only reason to explain to somebody what's going on would be for the inevitable I told you so when we all die 10 years from now, right?
And they're never going to give it to me.
Because I've been doing the I Told You So thing for 20 goddamn years now, and no one's ever said I told you so.
They've just moved the goalposts and pretended that I wasn't right about this 15 years ago.
dan friesen
That's fair.
They're furious.
That's fair.
And I think it's very reasonable for you to be mad on a climate change argument point.
I'm just looking at this from an epistemological standpoint.
No, recognizing looking at Alex's dumb dumb dumb.
Well, we have he's a dumb dumb dumb.
jordan holmes
We've both seen how I treat climate change in the past.
dan friesen
I have to escalate from dumb dumb onto dum-dum-dum.
jordan holmes
Dum-dum-dum.
He needs four, maybe even five.
dan friesen
So we heard Alex talk a little bit earlier about the tragedy of Dory the Fish.
jordan holmes
Ah, yes.
dan friesen
And we have no memory.
alex jones
Picture very beautiful in their big schools, but I did forget a study to have very, very short attention spans.
Generally, crayfish.
And they talk about that in the children's movie Finding Nemo.
And I make this point a lot because humans have long-term attention spans.
Humans have good memory.
But people don't train themselves to do it.
In the modern world, memories are much less of what they were, and attention spans are much, much shorter.
In fact, a lot of people 20 and younger, I saw a study a few months ago, have attention spans shorter than a goldfish, shorter than 14 seconds.
dan friesen
This is a complete myth based on nothing, and Alex has been trotting out this talking point for years.
It's not based on some imaginary study he saw a couple months ago.
If the audience had any memory, they would know that.
jordan holmes
It does seem like that is the thing that he is exploiting, the complaint that he is making.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
Quite literally.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it is like I am complaining about the thing that is the fundament for why I am successful.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
dan friesen
Definitely.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex is talking about that heat.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's hot.
alex jones
It's hot.
It's hot.
dan friesen
Down in Monaghan.
alex jones
It's hot here.
dan friesen
Sure, it is.
Yeah.
And so he has to pull in a producer who I've never heard on the show before to talk about the heat.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because he moved there from Minnesota.
alex jones
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
He used to work at Genesis.
jordan holmes
Oh, man, he's fucked.
dan friesen
And I guess whenever the gold license, whenever Ted Anderson lost his gold license, he's like, I might as well go work for Alex.
Not a lot of money up there.
jordan holmes
Lateral move.
dan friesen
And so he came down to Austin, and boy, it's hot.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
But let's bring Scott in here.
Scott, you moved here.
They're telling you this is the hottest Texas has ever been.
Is that true?
scott bronson
No.
The first year I was here, it was over 100 degrees for like 100 straight days.
And it was, I mean, coming from Minnesota, it wasn't as humid as what I was used to up there, but it was hot.
For like 100 straight days, it was over 100 degrees.
alex jones
But we don't just have to believe you or believe me.
We can look up statistics, and this is not anywhere near the hottest ever.
scott bronson
Not at all.
It's not even close.
It's not even close.
And, you know, they've even started doing things like, you know, man dies in Death Valley due to heat.
Well, it's called Death Valley.
Like, it was named Death Valley because of how hot it was.
dan friesen
So they said that this guy came to Austin five years ago.
So in 2018, we should look for 100 straight days over 100 degrees in Austin.
To be clear, this is like a third of the year.
If you started on January 1st, this would go to April 11th.
Just on its face, this isn't true.
But I like to look into things.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
In 2018, the longest stretch where temperatures were over 100 were recorded was 15 days.
So this dude is 15% rough.
jordan holmes
That's a lot, though.
If I'm doing hyperbole, I'm not going to shit talk this too much because if I'm doing hyperbole, 15 might as well be 100 in my storytelling capacity.
dan friesen
I can agree with you if you say like it felt like 100 days.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, I mean, obviously.
dan friesen
But it wasn't.
jordan holmes
I am widely known for hyperbole, so it would be assumed.
dan friesen
There were only 41 days total that year where the temperature hit over 100.
So he's over half off.
I know it probably seems like I'm being a nitpicker here, and that is kind of fair.
But there's another point that I think is really important, which was touching on earlier.
Alex and this guy don't have a memory.
They have feelings.
They feel like it was way hotter in the past than it was because that feeling helps them justify the worldview that they prefer and the one that they profit off selling to an audience.
Their memories are feeling-based, not empirical, but they pretend like their memories are some kind of a hard scientific proof that makes their point.
They don't.
It's just fluff that means nothing.
Not for nothing, this episode that we're listening to was recorded on July 26th, and July 25th was the 17th day in a row in Austin where the temperature over 100 was recorded, breaking that streak from 2018, the year that this guy is talking about.
jordan holmes
Very annoying.
dan friesen
Also, Death Valley wasn't called that because of the heat.
In the winter of 1849, some pioneers got lost in the valley.
One of them died, but as the rest managed to make their escape, one of them said, Goodbye, Death Valley, and the name stuck.
And that is me nitpicking.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Well, that one's fair.
Yeah.
Here's the problem that I have when people start doing this.
All right.
You are the one now placing importance upon the number.
So if you tell me, oh, well, it's not even the hottest day of all time, fine.
What does that mean when it is?
Will you then say, fine, you're right.
You won't.
So fuck off.
dan friesen
A sincere actor would, but obviously the answer is no.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
So fuck off.
None of this means anything.
You are even not, you're not even engaging with your own reality.
dan friesen
Right.
This line of inquiry and this line of information is satisfactory to disprove something I don't want to be true, but it will not affirm something I don't want to be true.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And that's cheating.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So fuck it.
jordan holmes
It's yeah, fuck you.
dan friesen
Now, we get off the topic of the heat.
And this is where things get weird.
There's a lot of talk about memory.
A lot of talk about heat.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And then Alex gets hot.
Alex, well, maybe it's because of the heat.
Alex gets fucking weird.
jordan holmes
I believe it.
dan friesen
The globalists apparently have a new plan.
alex jones
Okay.
Because they do have cures for cancer.
They do have free energy.
They do have incredible forms of transportation that because America was the freest country and had the brain drain of the world, even surpassing the Germans and the Russians and the Japanese, the United States was able in the arms race and the technology race to get exponentially ahead of everybody else.
And so now they want to have a way to have a breakaway civilization where the elites get all the live attention and you don't even get anything except death.
You're being phased out.
jordan holmes
They're through with you.
All right.
alex jones
And it's not going to be 500 million people that are allowed, like the UN says, to stay alive.
That's what George Grace is.
Listen to what they say.
You're going to get to be part of the Star Trek future and wear your little onesie outfit, and you're going to be part of that.
jordan holmes
They seem practical.
alex jones
They're not going to leave 500 million around either.
They're going to create one entity, consciousness, computer faces the biological life, sucks all the codes out of it, and then creates a new species.
It's silicon-based.
And the decision's been made to overwrite the entire planet and create a new evolutionary system, basically playing God.
dan friesen
So, yeah, this is apparently what it's all about.
They're trying to create a hive-minded entity that will create a new evolutionary model of silicone-based life forms.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Man, if he'd been saying this stuff back in the 90s, everyone would have treated him the way he deserved to be treated.
He would not have any money.
jordan holmes
Nope.
Here's the thing.
All right.
Yeah.
What I don't understand is if this plan, like, here's my issue.
Okay.
This plan is so dumb.
dan friesen
Very.
jordan holmes
So stupid.
dan friesen
So dumb.
jordan holmes
Incomprehensibly stupid.
dan friesen
Pointless.
jordan holmes
Why would you silicon?
What are you doing?
To the point where if you are actually trying to do it, I have to assume you have some very, very good reason to try and pull this off.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Right?
You got to really want it to pull off a plan this stupid.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I would agree with that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But also, sure.
Like, it would be so easy to kill everyone.
jordan holmes
It would be so easy.
dan friesen
You had the power of the globalists.
I mean, you don't have to do any of these intricate plans.
jordan holmes
What are we still doing here?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And you're having fun.
I mean, I get it.
And if you're just toying with us as like, well, what else are we going to do today?
That's fine.
We're all bored too.
This whole thing is an illusion.
Why would you go to work every day?
This is dumb.
This is dumb.
I get it.
All of this is arbitrary.
But what are you doing?
dan friesen
What are you doing?
I'm confused.
I know that this is just what he's feeling today.
And maybe he watched a movie and he's got some ideas in his head.
Sure.
jordan holmes
What does the machine look like?
In your mind.
Okay, so this machine overwrites human DNA, sucks all of our codes out, and then pushes out a silicon-based evolutionary life form.
Yes.
What's the machine look like?
dan friesen
I have to be honest, I kind of, I don't know if you've ever played the game Eternal Darkness.
It was on the GameCube.
It was kind of a Lovecraft and horror type game.
Fantastic game.
Sure.
Had a lot of mechanics where if you got seen by monsters, you would lose your sanity.
And then the game would start fucking with you.
jordan holmes
Nice.
dan friesen
Like one of the things it would do is it would go back to the title screen and make you think you'd lost all your progress.
It was great.
jordan holmes
That is great.
dan friesen
Especially if you were high.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So fun.
Yeah.
Anyway, there's these immortal beings that are vying for power in the universe.
There's three of them: there's Ulioth, there's Zelatoth, and Taturga.
jordan holmes
I like Toturga.
dan friesen
Taturga is the god of strength.
jordan holmes
Yeah, obviously.
dan friesen
So anyway, throughout the game, these are the three eternal beings that seem to be controlling the fate and everything.
But if you beat the game three times, you find out that really the being that was manipulating everything all along was the dead god Mantorok.
jordan holmes
Oh, God damn it.
I hate it when there's one dude behind everything.
dan friesen
Yeah, the bound god.
And he's like a pile of search for Mantorok from Eternal Darkness.
jordan holmes
He's like a pile.
He's just like a pile.
The ultimate enemy is a pile.
dan friesen
He fills up a room, and it kind of looks like a, I don't know.
jordan holmes
So that's what you're describing the machine as?
Do you have a phone?
dan friesen
Look up Mantorok from Eternal Darkness.
jordan holmes
All right, I'll look up Mantorok.
I don't.
dan friesen
like manta ray and then rock like I don't think there's a C in rock and I think it's manto rock yeah I would guess.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
But I encourage everyone to Google this, if only to get Google Trends going.
Maybe we'll get an Eternal Darkness sequence.
jordan holmes
All right.
All right.
Maybe this will happen.
dan friesen
It's a purple thing.
jordan holmes
It's a pile.
You are 100% correct.
dan friesen
That's what comes into my mind when I hear Alex describing this.
Mantorok.
jordan holmes
I can see that.
I can see that.
Yeah.
dan friesen
The only one that can save us from Zelototh.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
And Taturga.
jordan holmes
See, I just feel like there's got to be a lot more lightning.
I feel like this is something that requires a shit ton of lightning to operate.
dan friesen
Mantorok could do some lightning.
jordan holmes
See, this is what I'm saying.
And also, I kind of feel like, here's what we're doing.
We have to combine.
dan friesen
Mantorok short.
jordan holmes
We have to combine Witchcraft is real with this machine.
Like, there also has to be an actual, literal, magical component to creating this evolutionary.
dan friesen
I don't want to be rude.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But I feel like that is so obvious.
In what Alex is saying, it feels so obvious to me that there needs to be magic.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry.
I just never assumed magic.
I'm just not the person.
dan friesen
But I mean, I guess, you know, like that, you know, at a certain point, technology and magic and stuff.
It's that kind of thing.
jordan holmes
Arthur C. Clarke, yeah.
dan friesen
Alex would look at.
He's a hard sci-fi guy.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Sure.
dan friesen
That's true.
He would have magic in there, but it would be in the pretense of.
jordan holmes
It'd be technological magic.
Yes.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Technomancy.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yes, definitely.
Which is not a class in Diablo.
jordan holmes
No, it is not.
dan friesen
A technomancer.
jordan holmes
Technomancer.
dan friesen
So, yeah, this is apparently where we're going.
That's what the globalists want, and that's why they have the Federal Reserve.
jordan holmes
What?
I mean, but the thing about that is that if that is the end goal, every decision up to this point tertiarily is so annoying.
Like, why do we have so much shit?
Like, why do I have to pay all these medical bills if what you really want is to evolve me into a silicon-based life form?
dan friesen
No, You're not going to get evolved into a silicone-based form.
jordan holmes
I would rather be evolved into a silicon life.
dan friesen
You're not going to be dead.
jordan holmes
You're going to deal with a hospital.
dan friesen
You're going to be dead.
These silicone beings are going to be all new.
It's a whole new evolutionary paradigm.
jordan holmes
Did I get one?
alex jones
No.
unidentified
Well, then in that case, I guess I'm out.
dan friesen
No, because the way I understand it, everyone's dead.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
We got this being that maybe is a hive mind of the globalists.
Like, maybe they download their consciousness into it.
jordan holmes
Well, and all the code.
dan friesen
Who fucking knows?
jordan holmes
Oh, the code.
dan friesen
Or maybe they get to be silicon beings too.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Whatever.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we'll figure it out.
dan friesen
But I see it.
jordan holmes
Or they will.
dan friesen
I see it as like the earth is now empty.
jordan holmes
Paved over.
dan friesen
I mean, there's still probably buildings.
jordan holmes
It takes all human beings got it.
dan friesen
Take forever to knock down all these buildings.
So I think, like, yeah, it's just empty, devoid of life, and what have you.
Then they plant the seeds of an entirely new evolution, like amoebas.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And like the beginning of it.
But instead of carbon-based life forms, it's silicon-based life forms.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And this, I think, is based on Alex not understanding what people are talking about with excess CO2 in the entire world.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would make sense.
dan friesen
Because he thinks that they want to get rid of all CO2, and carbon is the basis of life and stuff.
jordan holmes
Now, I'm going to throw this out at you.
dan friesen
Please.
jordan holmes
I'm going to throw this out at you.
And this may be like a fundamental issue with the globalist plan.
They're a bunch.
Carbon-based life is really good at existing on Earth because carbon-based life evolved with the Earth.
Right.
Silicon-based life would work better on a different planet.
dan friesen
That may be true.
jordan holmes
It wouldn't work very well on this planet because all the elements that they would need are not here.
dan friesen
How silly.
don't exist how silly would that one entity feel if they went through all of this just to find out that the silicon was incompatible i can't breathe I can't breathe!
Why did you create me?
jordan holmes
Guys, you cannot breathe your oxygen.
dan friesen
Oh, we whiffed on this one.
jordan holmes
You will never go outside of this tube.
What have you done to me?
dan friesen
Back to the drawing board.
unidentified
Shakespearean creature of neglect and misery.
dan friesen
Well, you win something you lose.
jordan holmes
I guess we're going to have to start again.
dan friesen
So, anyway, Alex talks about this a little more.
alex jones
Okay.
The decision has been made to wipe everybody out and to wipe out all the plants and all the animals and all just everybody.
All the insects, everything.
So, when they say we're the guardians of Earth, we want to get rid of humans to save the earth.
We love chemtrailing.
We love aluminum dioxide.
We love merium salts.
We love exploding nuclear reactors.
We love radiation.
We love silicon.
We hate carbon.
We hate what carbon does.
Cows fart, you know, so do humans.
And you also excel carbon dioxide.
They're literally building an alien system here on Earth.
The aliens exist, not from some distant star or even another dimension.
Though that's going on.
What?
The main attack is the globalists have been inspired by a pre-programmed genetic code or by an inner space transmission, is how most of them believe they're getting it to take this on and then commit this operation to rewrite the planet and turn us into a silicon system that only needs sunlight.
The earth will then be jacketed in solar panels, and this new entity will use it as a base.
So we've been sent the plans.
Western scientists got so enamored with the fact that they can interface with this, probably because of genetics.
And now they're building it.
We'll be right back here with us.
dan friesen
Yeah, so apparently the photosynthesis will be a part of this being.
It will only need sunlight.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's a good move.
I'm all for that.
Yeah.
If we could do only sunlight diets, that would be dope.
I'd be fine with that.
dan friesen
I think this is.
If this is why Alex is against solar energy, this is sad.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, I'd be all for it.
100%.
dan friesen
No, you can't put up those solar panels because it'll feed the beast.
jordan holmes
No, I mean, I can still.
Yeah.
alex jones
No.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
It'll feed the devil.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
You know, here's the thing.
I've been thinking about this.
dan friesen
I have no comments about this.
Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you, but I wanted to make clear that I have nothing.
unidentified
And then there's the Synthosilicon-based life form.
jordan holmes
I mean, these ones aren't even from another dimension.
Where are these ones from?
interspace so they're from they're super Oh, man.
What if there were super tiny people who had been living inside of us this whole time?
dan friesen
Jersey meet day.
jordan holmes
Do a reverse inner space, fly outside of us.
Boom.
They're huge now.
dan friesen
It's like that.
jordan holmes
Fish out of water.
Yes, it is exactly like that.
Yeah, what's that?
dan friesen
Meat Dave.
I think.
jordan holmes
No, no, Osmosis Jones.
dan friesen
No, that's a different one.
unidentified
I know.
jordan holmes
That was a completely different movie.
dan friesen
Inner Space.
That's another one.
jordan holmes
Well, that's the same one.
dan friesen
Tiny people.
Honey, I shrunk the kids.
Honey, I shrunk me.
jordan holmes
Honey, I shrunk the baby.
dan friesen
Oops.
jordan holmes
One of the greats.
dan friesen
Everyone shrunk.
jordan holmes
It was honey, I blew up the baby because the baby got huge.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's true.
jordan holmes
They really subverted our expectations.
It was like the Beethoven movies.
By the time they got to Beethoven's 3, it's like, it's not even about a dog.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
It's actually about Beethoven.
jordan holmes
Yes, absolutely.
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
This is not what Alex has been saying in the past.
This is dumb.
He's in a strange mood.
jordan holmes
It's the heat.
Every time he starts talking about space, the more I think about it, the more I'm just like, everybody thinks about all the big challenges and stuff and all that stuff and like, oh, getting through there and all this stuff.
Where are we?
Do you know what I mean?
Like, from what point of view do you have to be looking to see us and from where?
And it is not.
We're nowhere.
We're the tiniest, tiniest, tiniest little dot.
It's the total perspective vortex.
The idea that somebody would come here is so ridiculous as to be nonsensical.
dan friesen
The total perspective vortex is actually where the aliens are from.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, that would be a good place to start.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Western scientists, because of genetics, have been able to interface with these beings that have told them these plans that they need to carry out in order to make the Earth a base for this silicone-based life form.
I guess the Borg kind of maybe, but without a bunch of entities.
Are they individuals?
jordan holmes
Are they still working for the devil?
Is this the devil's idea?
Oh, that is the devil.
dan friesen
I think so.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Do you think they're working across purposes from the devil to do this as a side project?
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't know.
Is God working on a similar project to counteract this?
dan friesen
I think God's just trying to stop this.
jordan holmes
Well, how can you stop it?
But there's only one way to defeat a giant monster, and that's with an even equally as big monster.
dan friesen
Sure.
We learned this in Godzilla.
I think, first of all, this is stupid.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Second, it means who's fighting against this?
According to it's Russia, right?
jordan holmes
Well, what are they doing fighting against this?
This seems right up their alley.
dan friesen
Not if your Alex past 2006 or so.
unidentified
That's fair.
dan friesen
Yeah, no, I don't know.
It's weird.
It's just Alex and his group of people who are totally not neo-Nazis.
jordan holmes
This is 100% a resurrected Nazi plan.
This is like the World War II never ended.
The Nazis have still been going on.
Secret Hitler is still alive, and this is the plan for him to become the next level of evolution.
dan friesen
Silicon Hitler.
jordan holmes
HitlerCon.
dan friesen
No, that doesn't work.
That sounds like a convention.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
That probably exists.
jordan holmes
It sounds like the place that Alex goes on the weekend.
unidentified
Yeah, he's a speaker at HitlerCon.
jordan holmes
Complete betting.
dan friesen
So he talks a little bit more about Biden.
And after all of this, I just, I'm confused.
alex jones
Hunter Biden is a mindless crackhead.
His father is a mindless drug addict.
The information's clear and a pedophile.
And as much as I want to see them burn in hell, I'm simply pointing out the fact that they're getting ready to remove Biden one way or another, and that includes assassination, something I stand firmly against.
jordan holmes
Don't need to say that.
alex jones
But if I was a betting man, I think Biden's so arrogant and so out of his mind that he does not step down.
And they're going to go with a spectacular assassination to blame on the right wing and the populist, or they'll just slip him something, gives him a stroke, and he dies.
jordan holmes
That one's some sucks.
alex jones
I don't want to do that.
It's a little too gamesy, a little too ballsy, a little too cattywampus, a little too wild.
I guarantee you they got different operational plans.
They got a plan to assassinate him and blame it on the Liberty Movement.
That's in the mix.
Probably not the card they're going to play, but they're really thinking about it.
And then they've got just get him to step down and then say he's had a stroke and he can go hang out in Delaware and the rest of it or Maine or wherever he sneaks around at the middle of the night.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
But he's not going to do that.
So they'll assassinate him or poison him soon.
And then they're going to indict Hunter right in front of you the whole world and say, see?
See, the Justice Department's fair.
We've indicted Hunter Biden.
He's going to prison for child trafficking, sex trafficking, and now it's legitimate that we're going after Trump.
dan friesen
I mean, Trump's already been indicted.
First of all, Alex is just making this shit up as he goes along.
These ideas of their various plans and shit.
But also, like, if this alien shit is going on, how does arresting Hunter Biden further the alien plan?
jordan holmes
There's aliens.
dan friesen
Nothing he's talking about means anything.
jordan holmes
Hunter Biden snorted Coke.
Fine.
That's great.
But most of the people I know have or do.
unidentified
Jordan.
jordan holmes
There are aliens.
alex jones
Do you understand?
Fuck off.
dan friesen
Do you understand that in order to get our silicone beings in play, we need to protect Hunter Biden?
jordan holmes
Throw him into space.
You have space powers.
dan friesen
Yeah, but that's a little bit gamesy.
That's a little cattywampus.
jordan holmes
That's the thing that I hate so much.
Is that what this really implies is that there is a whiteboard, like, overnight meeting amongst the globalists where they're like blue sky thinking, no idea is bad.
Everybody just throw it up there.
Maybe we slip him something.
No, that's too gamesy.
dan friesen
Yeah, Soros is sitting there on his 18th cigarette.
What's it going to be?
jordan holmes
This is the worst.
dan friesen
Justin all-nighter.
jordan holmes
This is the worst.
unidentified
Nobody has any good ideas.
jordan holmes
Listen, we are on year 12,000 of this plan, apparently, and we don't have any good ideas.
unidentified
Jacques Cousteau is in the corner.
jordan holmes
I should never die.
dan friesen
I faked my death so I could be useful to the plot.
jordan holmes
I am still in the ocean.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
All of the Rockefellers who have ever lived are there as Force ghosts.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
What are we doing in this room where they're saying stuff like that's a little too cattywampus?
What are you talking about?
dan friesen
I just, I feel like every now and again it's important to really just take a step back and realize like the scope of what Alex's sci-fi bullshit is going on.
He should not care about anything that he yells about all the time.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Should not care at all about Biden's stuff.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Shouldn't care.
Like you have bigger fish to fry, namely the devil.
jordan holmes
I mean, yes.
dan friesen
This elaborate plan to cover the world in solar panels to feed some kind of siliconed manta rock.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't get, I think people should realize exactly how unserious we are being whenever something like this is supposed to have occurred.
If aliens, then only aliens.
There is no, I don't care about taxes.
What the fuck are you talking about?
There are aliens who can travel a billion miles through space.
dan friesen
All bats are off.
An essential part of their plot was getting an income tax.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
The devil's real.
The end.
With a real, literal devil controlling people's behavior.
dan friesen
Fuck off.
In order for the devil to really make any headway, he had to make sure that Osho was formed.
jordan holmes
I mean, that makes sense.
I don't disagree with your thought process.
I'm just saying that that's a little ticky-tacky.
That's a little bit, that's a little bit too deep in the weeds for you.
I think you're missing the forest for the trees, Mr. Devil.
dan friesen
Very dumb.
jordan holmes
And then he's like, how about the EPA?
Listen, that's a step up.
dan friesen
So Alex is talking about these hearings about the alien stuff, which is all a bunch of bally hoods.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Bosh, I say, getting ready for this trip.
And so Alex talks about how, like, obviously, this isn't real.
This guy is not talking about alien stuff.
And Alex, to his credit, does not think that this guy is this whistleblower guy.
Good for him.
But he has another take on it, which is that he is part of a limited hangout kind of.
There's a conspiracy on top of it as opposed to just the guy being a little bit more.
jordan holmes
Bullshit.
Yeah.
alex jones
I've done my own research.
So here's the bottom line.
I've told you this a thousand times or more in the last 30 years, 29 years on air.
When they roll out that the little green men are real, and when they tell you that they're way advanced than us and they're everywhere, the new world order is about to go into overdrive.
And notice, they've rolled out the poison shots.
The borders are wide open.
Two men can have a baby.
Pedophilia is everywhere.
unidentified
And now the little green men.
alex jones
And all the Hollywood movies and men in black and just constant stuff going on.
dan friesen
So all this stuff isn't happening.
Alex is just listing off the reality he's shaping for his audience.
Pedophilia isn't everywhere.
The border isn't wide open.
The shots aren't poisoned.
This is just Alex's fantasy world.
Also, it's abusive to say that the globalists are going to go into overdrive.
This is just a reflection of Alex realizing that he said that the New World Order has gone operational too many times and its impact is starting to wear off on the audience.
They've gone operational and nothing's happened.
But that's because we were really waiting for them to go into overdrive.
Then I guess when they go into overdrive and nothing happens, it'll be because we're actually waiting for them to go hyper speed or mega warp or some other dumb shit Alex can come up with to extend this fraud for another few years.
Also, not for nothing, Men in Black came out in 1997.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
There was a fourth installment that came out in 2019, but that's still four years ago and it didn't do that well.
I don't know why he's saying Men in Black and all this stuff.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
dan friesen
All this stuff is happening like Men in Black.
jordan holmes
Of all of the slippery slope arguments that we've heard since Republicans started saying that things will eventually be different than they are now.
I never heard little green men at the end of any of them.
That Pat Robinson wasn't like, oh, if you let gay people get married, blank, blank, blank, blank.
Aliens.
That didn't happen.
I never heard that one.
dan friesen
See, that's the Alex Jones difference.
jordan holmes
That's what he brings to the table that you're not going to get at a Shones or whatever.
dan friesen
And in case any of this stuff does come to pass, I need to tell you one very important thing.
jordan holmes
What was that?
dan friesen
And that is the good guys dress in black.
Remember that, just in case we ever face to face and make contact.
jordan holmes
I understand.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Yep.
Don't tell me.
What was that question going on?
jordan holmes
You know what?
I don't want to ask that.
I don't want to ask it anymore.
dan friesen
Was it, do I know all the words to every Will Smith theme song?
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Maybe.
No.
It was, do you like knowing all the words to every Will Smith theme song?
dan friesen
I don't really have a choice at this point.
jordan holmes
No, I understand.
dan friesen
I guess I don't actually know the words to Men in Black 2.
Nod your head, black suits coming.
jordan holmes
Did he do that?
Is that the only reason he did the sequel?
dan friesen
Was so he could do the only reason, but I think people enjoyed it.
unidentified
Yeah, it wasn't a good movie.
dan friesen
I think the second one was okay.
I thought the third one was the one that was like blue.
Fell apart a little bit.
That's fair.
I don't know.
I haven't watched this movie since 1997.
jordan holmes
It looks like we got to watch them.
dan friesen
So I think what we find out is that Alex watched Interstellar recently.
jordan holmes
Okay, that makes sense.
alex jones
You know, the best estimates are it's going to be something like Interstellar, where you're not sure what happened, but something got out, and this fungus starts growing in the atmosphere and blocking out the sun and killing everything.
Oh, oh, oh, and the White House just said two weeks ago, they're going to start spraying stuff in the atmosphere, added to jet fuel to block out the sun.
Oh, and there's all these funguses suddenly taking over.
The new Intel is there spraying fungus in the atmosphere, creating interstellar.
Yeah, that's why when you go see something like that, folks, you need to know that means it's one of their projects.
jordan holmes
It's always a movie.
dan friesen
If you see a science fiction movie, just know it's one of their projects.
jordan holmes
It's one of their projects.
Every science movie is one of their projects?
dan friesen
If Alex wants it to be.
jordan holmes
It's the entire...
I mean, imagine if you're so obsessed with sci-fi as a kid that you can't think of the world in any other terms, and your weirdo parents give you JBS stuff.
then you get to the realization that you're not.
dan friesen
Also, you probably suffered a couple of head traumas.
jordan holmes
Oh, totally.
And you were trapped underneath a building that was poisonated.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
No, it does make more sense if you think that every sci-fi movie is one of their plans.
dan friesen
Oh, and then also you have incredible substance abuse problems and maybe some narcissistic tendencies.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Even on a good day.
jordan holmes
Wow, there's definitely that.
Do animated movies count as part of their plan?
Or do they only do live action?
dan friesen
The Animatrix is real.
jordan holmes
Okay, the Animatrix is real.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
So certain animation companies that produce that are part of the Globalists.
dan friesen
Eon Flux is real.
jordan holmes
Eon Flux.
Well, that was real.
dan friesen
Cool World is real.
jordan holmes
Foodie Cootie?
That'd be great.
dan friesen
Remember that video game Comic Zone on the Sega?
jordan holmes
I never had a Sega.
I was very jealous of my Sega friends.
dan friesen
Sega!
jordan holmes
Oh, every time I heard that sound on the TV, I was like thinking of my other Sega friends playing their Sonic.
dan friesen
Yeah, I was in Nintendo House because my grandma played video games.
And so whenever she was done with the system, she would give it to us.
And she always played Nintendo stuff.
But a buddy of mine down the street had Sega, so I was able to play the Sonics and the NBA Jams.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
For very obvious reasons, I did not have my own kind of like playing video games console until I was, you know, more grown up.
So it was a PlayStation for me.
You know, that was the first time that I got to engage with a console.
Otherwise, I had played Super Mario and like Mortal Kombat.
Sure.
That was it.
dan friesen
You know, what about like arcades?
jordan holmes
Well, that's what I'm saying.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
jordan holmes
Like Mortal Kombat and an arcade, like those kind of arenas of those kinds of video games.
You know, plenty of frogger.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Plenty of pinballs.
dan friesen
They're classics.
jordan holmes
I was not or ever will be a wizard of pinball.
dan friesen
So we know that pinball mancer.
Also, not a class.
So Alex, we know this.
His dad, one of the smartest boys in Texas.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
And he was recruited by the Globalists.
jordan holmes
He was.
dan friesen
It turns out.
Now, I'm going to just show all my cards in advance of this clip so you can pay attention in the way I'd hope you will.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Alex is about to tell another story of the globalists trying to recruit his dad.
A different has to be a second time.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Because the other time was when Alex was in school, or Alex's dad was in school.
Right.
And it was Dr. Erwin Speer at University of Texas.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And this happens when his dad's a dentist.
So they do not, they cannot be at the same time.
So Alex is telling a completely separate time.
So if this, what we're about to listen to is true, the Globalists tried to recruit Alex's dad into their depopulation global extermination program.
He said, no, thank you.
jordan holmes
No, thank you.
dan friesen
He goes on to get his dental degree.
alex jones
Whoa, Star Wars.
jordan holmes
And now he's a dentist.
We can't let him go.
dan friesen
We got to try this again.
jordan holmes
We got to go back.
He's a dentist now.
We thought he was just going to be one of the smartest people.
dan friesen
Well, actually, the dentist thing does play into this.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
It is important.
Of course, it is.
So anyway, enjoy this completely bullshit story.
alex jones
They got biological androids that are six foot seven lizard people, but they're not off-world.
They were built.
They were genetically engineered.
And it's just a humanoid that grows this hideous exoskeleton.
They got it all.
I've talked to people that have seen it.
And let me just explain something to you very slowly.
My dad was one of the first thousand dentists or so in the country to successfully start putting implants in regular patients.
They'd had them for 20 years before the 80s, but nobody could really make them work.
And he went to some of the best schools after he'd already graduated, medical school.
dan friesen
Slow down.
alex jones
And when in like 1984, 1985, maybe 83, I remember I'd listen around the corner to my parents when I'd leave the dinner table.
Sometimes I'd be coming down the stairs and I'd sit there because the kitchen was like a living room right here, but the stairs come down here.
And the kitchen's right here with a dining table.
I could listen to them.
And I asked her that about this few months ago.
He said, no, you basically heard the conversation.
It's true.
They tried to hire my dad for $450,000 a year.
And all the other, like all of them.
Wasn't just him.
It was all the top implanters.
There wasn't a bunch of them at that time.
But they wanted him to head up a project three months in, one month out, or something like that in Maryland at an underground base.
And we even learned which base it is.
Now, listen, this is not saying my dad's special.
jordan holmes
Which underground base is it?
alex jones
In the 1980s, folks, they were scooping up the oral surgeons all over the United States to go be part of some cyborg project.
unidentified
Yep.
alex jones
My mom's like, David, we're not moving to Maryland and I don't care how much money it is.
And back then, $450,000 was like $5 million.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
She said, she said, my mom wasn't a threatening person, but she was like, I'm not going.
I'm moving to Austin.
I don't want to be here in Dallas anyways.
And if you want to go, go do it, but we're done.
He's like, I hear you.
I wasn't going to do it.
But blah, blah, blah.
It's really.
That's the mid-1980s.
Can you imagine in the year 2023, what the hell's going on?
dan friesen
I'm not in your head.
So this is so fun.
I mean, if you're trying to construct a timeline that, like, if you believe anything he says, like, the globalists desperately want David Jones.
jordan holmes
That was the Moeller Hatton Project.
dan friesen
You were sitting on that?
jordan holmes
I was spending a little bit of time thinking about it.
dan friesen
It was good work.
jordan holmes
It wasn't terrible.
dan friesen
This is.
David Jones is the most important person.
Fuck Tucker Carlson.
Alex's dad is like, why would you go back to him?
He already said no.
jordan holmes
What I don't understand.
All right.
You're the devil.
Why would you go back to him with a number like 450?
Like, are you like immediately trying to impress him with that?
You're the devil.
You can only impress people with half a million dollars.
dan friesen
Well, you don't want it to be so high that it's suspicious because then you're going to know.
jordan holmes
$250,000 is very suspicious.
dan friesen
No, no, that's in the realm of a high salary at that time.
I don't know.
But if you come in with like $3 million a year in 1984 or something like that, $10 million a year, then he's going to know you're trying to implant things into people to make biological androids.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm saying.
You don't come to him with the number.
You come to him and you say, what do you want?
dan friesen
I can write a lot of numbers on this channel.
jordan holmes
What do you want?
Why are you coming to him after you've already failed the first time?
Why are you coming to him trying to impress him?
You come to him and you say, you come to me.
dan friesen
And, hey, let's not tell him it's in a fucking underground base.
jordan holmes
I would never tell him it's in an underground base.
dan friesen
How about you try and pretend it's a legitimate job offer for a regular job?
And then once he's there, peel back some layers.
jordan holmes
The first time you find out you work at an underground base is when you should be underground in that base.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You're not getting back up.
jordan holmes
No, you're not seeing sunlight.
dan friesen
You personally do not have to worry about the heat.
jordan holmes
Hey, by the way, it's in an underground base.
Well, now that you've told me that, I think I'm going to pick a different.
dan friesen
Hey, guess what?
jordan holmes
Sus.
dan friesen
Very shady, the idea of you having an underground base that I have to work in.
I'm going to say no on that one.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, but we'll pay you a lot of money.
Now you can't go up to the surface ever again.
dan friesen
Let's say a podcast network comes along and they're like, hey, guys, we like your show.
We'd like you to record in our studio that's in an underground base.
No, thank you.
jordan holmes
Well, the first thing we would say is that's not that different.
And this next thing we would say is, absolutely not.
unidentified
Back in the 2020s, they were scooping up all the podcasters.
jordan holmes
What an embrace.
They were scooping up all the oral surgeons.
What could you need that many oral surgeons?
dan friesen
Trying to put implants in people to turn them into biological android seven-foot-tall reptilian people.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
But you would need infrastructure on that underground base.
What, you have a thousand different little chairs for each person to work on?
Like a hairdresser studio, but across in the fucking Indiana Jones warehouse?
dan friesen
No, no.
Some of the oral surgeons had to be chairs.
They had to get on their hands and knees and people would sit on their backs.
jordan holmes
Right.
Well, they had to get the strongest oral surgeons for that.
dan friesen
Everyone knows that oral surgeons make the best chairs.
No, man, I don't know.
I think that I wish that there was a good way to look into this if there was a rash of disappearances of oral surgeons around this time.
jordan holmes
I mean, just some, even some anecdotal stories I would really enjoy.
dan friesen
Well, we got one.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know, but a bunch of people just being like, man, you remember how weird it was there was like an oral surgeon shortage for a while?
Wasn't that crazy?
What happened with that?
dan friesen
Also, implants, dental implants have been around way longer than what Alex is saying.
jordan holmes
Only David Jones pioneered the dental implant process.
dan friesen
Very confusing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he went to medical schools that are greater than.
dan friesen
It's one thing.
It's kind of an interesting open question that I have that, like, how much of this is Alex being a baby and hero worshiping his dad like a little infant?
And how much of it is trying to turn his dad into a character that's useful for these plots?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Like, I don't know which is which because it, like, based on his psychology and how he acts, the hero worshiping of his dad and all this stuff makes total sense.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Turning his dad into like the strong man, perfect heroic figure that the globalists would try and recruit twice.
Also, in the story, why isn't he like, this is the second time they tried to die?
jordan holmes
No, why wouldn't he be like, hey, I said no the first time.
What has changed in between then and now?
dan friesen
Maybe because Alex is forgetting that he's given details.
jordan holmes
It is an issue there.
That could be an issue.
I think it's just a matter of escalation, you know?
Like, he starts out hero worshiping his dad 30 years ago, and it's like, oh, my dad was a really great dentist.
30 years, a lot of drugs, and shit later, my dad was chosen by the CIA.
Plus, he's also been recruited by the devil.
I mean, it escalates.
It's like the Avengers had to fight the universe for a while.
It started out with some evil corporation.
And it's like, yeah, I get it.
That guy's bad.
dan friesen
You know, Fast and Furious is the perfect example of this.
jordan holmes
Totally.
They went to space.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And in the first movie, it was DVD players.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I just, I have this clip because I think you'll enjoy it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And that's why they're so decadent.
They're like, we're not going to give the general public life extension, and we're not going to let them know we've already got quantum computing.
And we're not going to let them know that we're interdimensionally in communication with thousands of alien species.
unidentified
Interdimensionally.
alex jones
They don't fly 8 trillion miles to come see us.
They interdimensionally fold space.
And Frank Herbert told you that in the 60s with Dune.
That's...
And that's why they'll even criticize me when I got very sanitized because this is all the big truth.
They've sold us out with the devil.
That's the bad guys.
They decided to get rid of us.
dan friesen
Okay, man.
So, yeah, they don't criticize him when he says this stuff because it's the truth.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
See, obviously, what needs to happen is we need to turn people into weird swamp gas creatures, and then they can see just enough of the future to allow you to fold space and time itself in order to travel between distances because there is no distance between them.
dan friesen
Frank Herbert told us this.
jordan holmes
Obviously.
unidentified
He reveals the method in the 60s.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know, right?
You need to get the spice.
dan friesen
So people not criticizing him about this isn't because it's true.
I think it's because most people don't listen to his stupid show.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
And the only thing that most people know about it is clips that go around for Media Matters and these other places.
And those, I think they just think like, ah, who cares?
This is going to be too much.
Or they just ignore it, you know?
Alex thinks that Dune was a manual to interspace travel.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Science fiction is everything.
It is actually a revelation of magic.
jordan holmes
That is the power of three uninterrupted hours of talking.
You can jump in and out whenever you want.
And if he starts on something and you're like, eh, I'm not really paying attention to that.
It doesn't matter if it's their intimentra, thousands of interdimensional alien species going on.
You're already pressed off.
All you heard was the stuff you liked where he was like, oh, Hunter Biden's got drugs.
You're like, yeah, man.
Ophelia.
Click.
dan friesen
I think also maybe some of those organizations that cut clips of him and put them out, I think they might be more interested in the ways that his rhetoric interacts with the real world.
And so something like him saying Dune is real maybe not high on their priority list.
However, for me, quite high.
Because again, this speaks to the epistemology of his ideas.
Where is he getting information from?
What is truth to him?
And apparently, Dune is truth to him.
jordan holmes
Right.
Well, I mean, it's unfortunate, but media outlets choose things that are useful to them.
And that is what they do.
dan friesen
Wait a second.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Duncan, Idaho.
Oh, Idaho is where the white supremacists all are.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Shit.
jordan holmes
How old is Duncan, Idaho now?
Is the question?
dan friesen
Is there a right answer?
Is there a good joke answer?
69.
No, how old?
You think he's Alex?
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
Because he's anywhere between 4,000 and 35.
dan friesen
Okay, so he's Steve.
jordan holmes
He's lived a lot of different lives, is the point.
dan friesen
Steve Pieczenik is Duncan, Idaho.
It's confirmed.
jordan holmes
A little bit.
A little bit.
dan friesen
So, Alex, we have one last clip here, and he talks about going to space, and that's what all of us need to do.
And he has some interesting ideas that he lays out here.
But the sense that I got is that he's describing, like, let's just all get off this planet, and then we can have planetary segregation, kind of.
It's not white nationalism, it's white planetism.
Kind of.
That's the vibe that I'm getting here a little bit.
jordan holmes
Right.
All right.
Yeah.
That's smart.
alex jones
If I was the Globalist, and I've certainly been offered to go work with him.
dan friesen
No, you haven't.
alex jones
I would back off this New World or plan.
It's not going to work.
It's insane.
There's 8 million people.
Even if you leave a billion, they're going to kill the Globalist.
If the Globalists try to pull this off, it causes total war.
Even primitive weapons, they won't be able to stop everybody, and it's going to create a wasteland.
We can have open, free stuff in space.
You can have different colonies, whatever you want to be involved in, whatever you want to do.
I mean, we can really, instead of just sending ships around so the pilgrims can go here and the Amish go there and the Catholics go to Louisiana.
People can go wherever they want.
They do whatever they want.
But we leave this planet to be like a preserve of what the original human and biological systems and things are as an ark.
The Earth remains an ark is what I propose.
jordan holmes
And then good proposal.
alex jones
We have a corporate government with all the great benefits of what can be mined in space and what can be done in space.
And we make space.
Not Texas, not New Mexico, not Arkansas, not Arizona, not California, not Montana, not Wyoming.
The new wild, wild west is space for adults to go there and do whatever it is, as long as you're not hurting children.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
The fuck?
unidentified
Anything goes in space as long as you're not doing anything with children.
jordan holmes
International space water law.
dan friesen
If adults want to go out in space and shit gets a little bit weird, that's okay.
It's the Wild West.
jordan holmes
Every time in a movie or literature or something, the aliens appear on the planet.
They're like, listen, I don't want to do this, but we have to exterminate your species.
Because if you get off planet, you're just going to do the same shit that you always have.
And we're always like, no, we'll be better.
And then Alex is like, how about we do segregation universe?
And you're like, yeah, actually, you know what?
I'm on the aliens team.
We got to go.
dan friesen
And we got to go.
And how about we have space duels?
Yeah.
And, you know, you fly for three seconds and then turn phasers on.
jordan holmes
All right.
So you want to take the dumbest things that human beings have done on one planet and really fuck up an entire galaxy with it.
alex jones
Yep.
jordan holmes
I think we gotta get, I think we gotta kill all the.
I'm sorry.
Extermination for the human race.
dan friesen
I wonder how the Second Amendment will do in space.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, realistically, you don't even need guns in space.
dan friesen
You can just the Second Amendment would apply to other weaponry.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, you could throw a rock really.
Well, I mean, a rock does all the damage you need it to do in space because there's no friction.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
So if you throw a rock really hard, it's plenty strong.
And then gravity will take care of the rest.
If you want to throw it to Earth, you could fuck people up with just like, we.
dan friesen
No, no, no, no.
I don't think that would work.
You can't just throw a rock to Earth.
jordan holmes
You can throw a rock at Earth.
dan friesen
So, like, from the moon, you could just wing it real hard.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
I don't think that's going to work.
jordan holmes
Really hard toss.
dan friesen
We got to get Neil deGrasse Tyson on the phone and see if he can help you out with this.
jordan holmes
All right.
All right.
Fine.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I think that Alex has created a bizarre ideal future for himself where the Earth is an Eden kind of arc of all humanity where the seeds of all two of each creature can go on and live.
jordan holmes
And then the rest of us go do weird sex stuff on Jupiter's moons.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And you can have your own planet if you want to not allow people you don't like on it.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
It's a free association in space.
This is stupid.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's very stupid.
dan friesen
I mean, like, honestly, these are interesting ideas for like a prompt of like a sci-fi story, maybe.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, it depends on how good the writer is.
jordan holmes
But space regation.
dan friesen
Not as good as Moeller.
jordan holmes
Not as good as Moeller Project.
dan friesen
So the thing that I come to is like, dude, you're trying to get Trump re-elected.
jordan holmes
Isn't that funny?
dan friesen
What the fuck are you talking about?
Space.
You got so many other, like, you have so many terrestrial issues that you're caught up in this petty bullshit.
Grow up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Stop it with this.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
It's so funny that people take this show seriously.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't know.
dan friesen
It's so much more fun as a non-serious thing than Tucker, though, because Tucker's not going to do that.
jordan holmes
No, he doesn't pull out.
He doesn't pull out that.
dan friesen
Tucker's not going to make a bizarre, elaborate space proposal.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, that's the thing.
That's the thing that really elevates it.
Tucker is like, oh, people are bad.
But Alex is like, I've got a solution, and it's segregated planets throughout the galaxy.
But also, the Earth is chill.
Nobody fucks with that.
And then the rest of it is the Wild West.
No laws.
dan friesen
Yeah, I'll stay on Earth.
How about that?
I mean, I don't want to go to space if you're going.
jordan holmes
Why are you saying we all need to get to space and then immediately saying, but I'm going to stay on Earth because it's the Ark?
dan friesen
No, I don't think he's going to stay on Earth.
He's going.
He loves to be in the Wild West.
jordan holmes
And maybe he does.
dan friesen
It's a place for adults.
jordan holmes
I mean, I imagine that he would love to, wherever he goes, will be a wretched hive of scum and villainy.
That is for sure.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That is for sure.
dan friesen
Yeah.
We have like Roger Stone coming up on the vision board.
No, he's coming up on the screen in the Enterprise.
Yes, yes.
And he's spouting a bunch of bullshit about how fake ballots from Venus are coming in.
jordan holmes
Hell's hard eyes dabbeting.
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
So anyway.
jordan holmes
How are we doing?
dan friesen
I'm fine.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
We're done.
Did we go to space?
Yeah.
We'll be back for another episode.
But just a reminder, 10 o'clock local London time.
jordan holmes
Local London time.
dan friesen
Those tickets will be on sale.
And, you know, if you're somebody who got a ticket to the first show, please, you know, give it a little bit of time.
I don't think it's terrible if people want to come to both shows.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
They are going to be different shows.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But give people a chance.
jordan holmes
And hey, if you got a London ticket and you're from Glasgow and you got a Glasgow ticket and you're from London, maybe switch it around.
dan friesen
You got some Glasgow in my London.
You got some London in my Glasgow.
jordan holmes
See what you guys can do.
dan friesen
Also, if you're in London and you want to find a reason to beat Jordan's ass, let me know.
jordan holmes
I'll be there.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Wait, you need to find a reason?
I feel like I've established more than enough.
dan friesen
Yeah, but I mean, the Scots are threatening you as sure, obviously.
We need to find some good reason for British people to beat you up.
jordan holmes
That would make them my allies.
dan friesen
Anyway, we'll be back.
Until then.
jordan holmes
Indeed we will.
dan friesen
We have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
Indeed we are.
It's at knowledge underscore fights.
alex jones
We'll be back.
dan friesen
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clarks.
What if I just kept doing that?
D-D-D-D-B-B-B-B-B-B-B.
unidentified
I could.
dan friesen
The good guys dressed in black.
Remember that.
jordan holmes
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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