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June 16, 2023 - Knowledge Fight
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#818: June 9, 2023

Today, Dan and Jordan check in to see how Alex Jones reacted to the news that Trump got indicted again. In this installment, Alex espouses disgusting ideas about Michelle Obama, and about a stabbing in France. Also, gremlins may be real.

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alex jones
14:15
d
dan friesen
39:11
j
jordan holmes
20:51
Appearances
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roger stone
02:01
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pastor david manning
00:02
s
steve quayle
00:02
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andy in kansas
00:01
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
It's time to pray.
roger stone
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
roger stone
Dan and George.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
roger stone
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
Hello, Ali.
andy in kansas
I'm a huge fan.
roger stone
I love your room.
unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
alex jones
Jordan.
jordan holmes
I have a quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
You go first.
jordan holmes
My bright spot, Dan, I finally saw John Wick 4. The most recent Wick.
dan friesen
The wickening.
jordan holmes
The wick.
The candles wick.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Wicked out.
dan friesen
How'd it go?
jordan holmes
It was alright.
dan friesen
Yeah?
Compared to Spider-Verse?
jordan holmes
It was better than three.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Compared to Spider-Verse, it was non-existent.
It didn't happen compared to Spider-Verse.
dan friesen
John Wick is another of the movies that everyone says you should watch, and I've never done.
But I know that Jason Manzoukas was in it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
The second one, right?
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he was in the second one.
Yes, that's right.
dan friesen
I know that.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
That's all I know about him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I know that he plays the TikTok man.
That's all I know.
jordan holmes
No, you're not missing anything.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
They're fun, but if you're...
dan friesen
Fun action type kills a lot of people because they killed his dog.
jordan holmes
Keanu Reeves punches people has been the staple style of movie since I was born.
dan friesen
True.
There has been some version of it.
Some incarnation.
Yeah.
Constantine.
That's what you're talking about, right?
Just Constantine?
jordan holmes
Just Constantine, one of the greats.
dan friesen
I got so bummed out when I saw...
I don't know that comic book.
I watched the movie, and his name being John Constantine bothered me.
I don't like that it was his second name, his surname, and also I didn't like that it was John.
I found that to be a soft name.
jordan holmes
I've never been able to hear the full name and not immediately in my head go, oh, you mean Johnstantine?
That's what I...
I just can't not do it.
dan friesen
I don't like it when something has a name of something and it's the person's name and it's ridiculous.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like John Constantine or Dr. House.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Like House M.D. I don't like that his name is House.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
It's no good.
jordan holmes
What would you prefer his name was?
dan friesen
Anything else that's not a noun.
jordan holmes
Anything else.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I want a pro...
I want a pro noun.
Not a noun.
jordan holmes
StoreMD.
How about that?
dan friesen
I think I'd have the same problems with that.
jordan holmes
You think so?
Well, it is the exact same issue.
dan friesen
And his name is Greg.
Greg House.
jordan holmes
Anyways, what's your bright spot?
dan friesen
House.
jordan holmes
Love it.
Name the best.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I was struggling, actually, to think of a bright spot.
But I guess, you know, Selene, the cat, has always been a bit of a wet food snob.
Sure.
unidentified
And I switched up the dry food that I give her, and she likes it a lot more.
dan friesen
Yeah.
to think that maybe I had just been giving her the wrong dry food, that she just didn't like that.
Okay.
unidentified
So that's kind of a bright spot, as much as I don't have to always give her wet food to make her happy.
dan friesen
She seems quite into this.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's nice.
You know what?
Even after all these years, you can still learn and grow with your partner, and I think that's great.
dan friesen
I also feel a little bit mad.
Maybe bummed out that maybe I've been giving her food she doesn't like for this whole time and just thinking, yeah, she doesn't like dry food.
jordan holmes
She doesn't speak English?
dan friesen
That is true.
That is a constant problem.
jordan holmes
It is on her.
dan friesen
For communication between us.
jordan holmes
It is on her.
dan friesen
I've tried so many times to teach her English.
jordan holmes
All cats know how to speak English and they just refuse to.
dan friesen
I have the hunch that that is the case.
jordan holmes
It's just fact.
dan friesen
So Jordan, today we're going to be talking about the present, of course, and Alex's response to Trump being indicted.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So we're going to be going over June 9th.
unidentified
2023.
dan friesen
His response is, you know, similar to what you'd expect, basically.
jordan holmes
Okay.
I wasn't going to be like, well, I mean, hey, if you hide that many weird documents in a bathroom, I think that's on you.
dan friesen
Hey, you win some, you lose some.
I mean, really?
jordan holmes
This one, I think, would be fine if everybody was like, Jesus, look at all those fucking boxes in your bathroom.
It is not an indictment of your...
It is an indictment of your character.
dan friesen
The boxes in the basement and bathroom and all this shit, that's all good and well.
I mean, it's not.
But leaving that aside, even the recordings that they have.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
Wild.
Just wild.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't know.
I feel like I have...
I'm not impartial, obviously.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But I feel like I have enough ability to gain some distance and look at things objectively that I think any president...
Any elected official, even if I loved them and I saw that kind of stuff, I'd be like, well, come on, man.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
dan friesen
You gotta get out of here.
jordan holmes
No, this one's on you.
You gotta be gone now.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
This is just not complicated.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I have an affinity for Obama, and if that was something that was recorded of him, I would say farewell.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out of here.
dan friesen
Yeah, go.
Imagining Bernie got elected afterwards.
jordan holmes
What are you doing with all those boxes in your fucking bathroom?
Just give them back!
dan friesen
And showing them to people and being like, it's bad for me to show this to you.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's insane!
It is a cartoon of a crime committer.
It is.
It is a bananas.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
So yeah, I would actually really respect Alex if he was like...
Man.
unidentified
Well...
dan friesen
At a certain point, you gotta cut bank or whatever.
jordan holmes
Yeah, sooner or later, listen, this is...
Remember when we all found out, like, oh, he's got confidential documents, and then the conversation turned into, like, well, you know, the government...
dan friesen
He's got, like, three or four, it's no big deal.
jordan holmes
The government classifies too many things.
It's an over-classification problem.
He probably just took some stuff.
He didn't even know it was that class...
This is absurdly classified shit.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
He's got it in his fucking bathroom in boxes, and he's showing...
dan friesen
Some of the stuff is top secret.
Some of it's like war plans.
jordan holmes
What are you doing?
Oh my god.
It's absurd.
dan friesen
Yeah, it is.
And the case is pretty...
I feel open and shut.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I don't know.
How do you play for a jury the sound of a man's voice going, look at this crime I'm committing.
You and me, I'm committing this crime at you.
You are part of this crime.
We are committing a crime together.
And then not go, do you expect me to find you not guilty?
dan friesen
Look, the Soros.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Now I'm listening.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Alex has a tough time really responding to this in any meaningful way.
So he does some of the things that you might expect.
Side road distractions.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
A little bit of what about games.
jordan holmes
Hey, other people commit crimes.
dan friesen
Right.
And so we'll experience the long and short of it here in a moment.
But first, Jordan, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
That's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, dinner at eight, turtle soup and dancing.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Daniel's shout-out is never late, Joseph and Chris, nor is it early.
It arrives precisely when he remembers ask for it.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, you are now a policy waka waka waka.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
And moist elk flaps.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
I don't like that one at all.
And I probably would have not allowed it had it not been in your email that you sent to me that I'm cold reading.
jordan holmes
I got...
The only reason that I allowed it is because they apologized profusely.
It is their gamer tag.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
So it was like, I don't know what to do.
I'm not going to judge you for your...
I mean, but I am.
But I mean, I'm not.
You know what I mean?
dan friesen
I'm going to judge you.
jordan holmes
I'm judge-worthy.
I'm judge-worthy.
dan friesen
Also, we've got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
So, thank you so much to Dan and Jordan predicted their involvement in the Texas Sandy Hook lawsuits.
Episode 99, November 1st, 2017.
28 minutes, 25 seconds to 28 minutes, 37 seconds.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
One of the great occasions of our witchcraftery...
jordan holmes
Yeah, that one's almost like...
Simulation breaking.
You know, that one is almost like, okay, guys, we can wrap this up.
dan friesen
I try not to think about any instances of things that we've said just fucking around that end up becoming correct or anything.
jordan holmes
Not cool.
dan friesen
Because there's no meaning to it.
Nope.
jordan holmes
We were dicking around.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
We were not trying to make it.
dan friesen
There are sincere coincidences that are kind of weird.
If you go back through our catalog, there are a few of them.
The one that I think is funniest is Predicting COVID.
Accidentally, while making fun of a Project Camelot episode.
jordan holmes
That one is pretty funny.
dan friesen
About a time traveler.
jordan holmes
No, it's a little bit like, you know, we're the relief pitcher who's suddenly been asked to take an at-bat, you know, which never happens.
And we're going up there fucking around, and we're just like, fuck it.
And we called our shot.
Who cares?
I'm not giving a shit.
And then you accidentally hit it there and you're like, well, I didn't.
That's a complete coincidence.
dan friesen
Don't put us up to bat.
jordan holmes
Complete coincidence.
Do not ask me to do this ever again.
dan friesen
So here we go.
We're going to start here on the 9th and this is where Alex is at.
alex jones
Well, I knew they were getting ready to indict Trump, but when they did it, it was still a punch in the stomach.
And I'm going to do my best here today.
Roger Stone's come up in about 25 minutes to really go through the meat and potatoes of this because...
I've been watching a lot of the other pundits and political analysts that are some of the smartest people out there that I know.
They still don't get the full import of this and how serious and dangerous this is and how reckless this is.
This is the first time in US history in our 250 years, roughly, that a former or current president has been indicted by a federal grand jury.
now you then look at this Jack Smith character, he's known for false prosecutions in fact he has a record a record, he's a young prosecutor comparatively for having his high profile prosecutions Prosecution's overturned.
dan friesen
Dun-dun-dun-dun!
unidentified
Uh-oh!
dan friesen
So, I would suggest to Alex a much better strategy to use that's in line with the brand that he tries to embody.
Mm-hmm.
unidentified
Is that...
dan friesen
In 250 years, this has never been done.
Maybe it should be done more.
If presidents and past presidents do wildly illegal things, then they should be subject to the law.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, I mean...
dan friesen
That should be in line with his No Kings shit.
jordan holmes
This is part of the thing.
We should all be celebrating this because it's the first time that we're actually admitting that there is an actual aristocracy and a fucking overarching class and that they are finally being held accountable through this one idiot.
dan friesen
It does introduce the question, I think, that is probably a relevant question to ask.
That is, where is the line of what...
You know, like, presidential prudence or decency towards past elected officials.
Where is the line of what should be prosecutable?
You know what I mean?
Like, some decisions that you make in office probably should get you in jail.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But maybe you can't because you have to make a decision and there was no good decision.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
Maybe that, you know, that's a difficult thing because that is a situation where, by virtue of the office, maybe we shouldn't hold you accountable and responsible as a civilian in your personal life.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
This is pretty different.
This is clearly on the other side of that line.
But there is a line somewhere.
And I think that that is a relevant conversation to have.
It's not the one that's being had.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
I think the obvious...
I think what should happen, very simply...
Is that every elected official should be put on trial immediately after leaving office.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
We know this.
jordan holmes
And they should have to defend themselves.
dan friesen
Trial by combat.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
I mean it.
I think you're right.
There are people who have made bad decisions who should not be held accountable for the results of that.
dan friesen
You're thinking of a defending your life situation.
jordan holmes
You should have to, because I bet a lot of our elected officials wouldn't do as great as they think they would.
And maybe if you were held accountable, you wouldn't act as shittily while you were in office.
dan friesen
Maybe.
I mean, I think that some level of accountability of public officials is a positive thing, and I don't know.
I don't think everybody necessarily...
Your suggestion is fairly interesting.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, think about it.
dan friesen
I don't know what the mechanics of it would be, but I do think the idea of having a post-mortem at the end of your term...
You should!
...is maybe healthy to take account of...
The time that you were in office.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And maybe that would be even very helpful for historians and for people like...
jordan holmes
Put it all out there.
And not just that, not just that, but think about you've got four years in office of the president, right?
And you're going to have to have a trial even if you want to get re-elected.
dan friesen
Oh boy.
jordan holmes
Four years.
Now, while you're in office, you've got to be thinking...
Is this going to be in my trial in only four years?
dan friesen
You know?
You know what the other problem with that, though, too, is that you do get into a case where the people who are doing those trials...
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know, that's the issue.
dan friesen
...if corruptible...
As all humans are, you run the difficulty of creating a greater oligarchy that has the ability to intimidate acting presidents into not acting a certain way in fear of what would happen in their trial.
jordan holmes
Yeah, naturally.
dan friesen
So then we've got to put those people on trial.
jordan holmes
That's kind of the...
We wound up in a Who Watches the Watchmen scenario awful fast.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Awful fast.
dan friesen
The point, though, is that there's some measure of accountability.
Towards public officials is a positive thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no.
dan friesen
And if you're Alex and you have this rank distrust of politicians and all this shit, I don't understand why you would be on the other side of that, except if your brand is fraudulent.
jordan holmes
I mean, it seems so crazy to me, not least of which, when people say that, like it's a monumental event in either direction, it's like, man, do you know American history?
Most of our presidents...
could have caught a charge for half the shit they did.
dan friesen
And maybe it's monumental based on the way we've done things in the past, but it's not monumental on its face.
It is only monumental because maybe we haven't done the right things previously.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Like the teapot dome, like when that went down.
Yeah, exactly.
Let's go all the way back.
Let's take it away from like permanent or like present time that we've got political arguments or whatever it is.
Let's go all the way back.
That was just some corrupt ass shit that went down and nobody really got any kind of like charge for it.
People got embarrassed and the wrong people got fired.
dan friesen
Someone should have caught a case is what you're saying.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
You can't call it a scandal.
It was a giant crime!
dan friesen
So I think that Alex is pointing this finger here at Jack Smith because there's no other real defense.
You've got to just try and smear the person doing the prosecution.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And, you know, that's great, but it's just kind of like a shiny thing to distract the audience's attention away.
And that's one of his primary tactics that he uses.
Just throwing shade at Jack Smith.
alex jones
So with this insane backdrop, the same day that broke, this Jack Smith character, who hasn't even lived in the United States for the last decade, he is a U.N. war crimes prosecutor, and he's been on the tribunals.
Because you don't get jury trials with the U.N. You get a tribunal of these whack jobs.
Wait, are you against that?
They just poisoned him to death in his cell.
And this guy worked on that.
dan friesen
What?
This guy worked on Milosevic?
jordan holmes
I...
dan friesen
So, Alex's timeline is completely whacked.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah?
dan friesen
So, Jack Smith accepted a position at The Hague in late 2017, prosecuting charges of war crimes in Kosovo.
Slobodan Milosevic died in 2006, while his trial was ongoing.
He was posthumously convicted, but regardless, he wasn't poisoned in his cell, and Smith had nothing to do with that prosecution.
Plus, whenever Alex has Francis Boyle on his show to spread COVID misinformation, one of the big brags in his bio is that he helped with the prosecution of Milosevic.
So Alex is trying to have it both ways here.
For Boyle, that's a huge feather in his cap, but for Smith, who wasn't even involved, it's somehow a stain on his reputation.
This kind of move is possible because nothing means anything to Alex, and things are only true or false to the extent that they're useful for him in the moment.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is nonsense.
jordan holmes
And not least of which, the man calls for tribunals for executing people all the goddamn time.
dan friesen
Talking Fauci?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, we're just all the time.
All the time.
But most of them haven't committed war crimes.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I mean, like, the inconsistency there with Francis Boyle is just glaring.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, you're against tribunals.
Yay.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Use that consistently, then.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Shit on Francis Boyle for being involved in the U.N. and the war crimes prosecution.
jordan holmes
He was involved with the good ones.
dan friesen
Oh, okay.
The same one that Alex is shitting on here?
jordan holmes
Okay, well, yes.
He was involved with the same good one.
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
It was a counter-coup against the prosecution of Milosevic.
jordan holmes
The fun part about subdivisions is that they can just keep going.
You can keep getting smaller and smaller and smaller.
dan friesen
Right, and it gets silly.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Jack Smith...
Obviously a UN shithead.
From 2006.
Except that he started in The Hague in 2017.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
So there's all this.
But then also, what about his wife?
Won't you consider Jack Smith's wife?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Of course not.
unidentified
But Alex does.
jordan holmes
What?
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
It's super important.
jordan holmes
No, refuse.
alex jones
So, and this guy worked on that.
So, if you want to get your neck broken in your New York federal cell, he's the guy.
If you want to kill somebody in their cell, he's your guy.
You want to set up stuff?
He's your guy.
Then his wife is this vicious libtard who produces all these anti-American TV shows and movies and documentaries, including the Netflix Big Mike special on Michelle, I mean, Obama calls him Michael, his wife, Michael, in two different speeches.
We have the clips coming up.
And my wife, Michael.
So, so, it's all just a big joke in our face.
It's all about rubbing it in our face.
dan friesen
See, Jack Smith's wife was involved with the documentary about Michelle Obama.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And so that's where we're going with this.
Alex hasn't, he doesn't mention any other examples of these anti-American shows.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And what have you, but he does get into just this outrageous.
Transphobia about Michelle being Big Mike.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And, you know, it's transphobic in one sense, and then you also have to recognize the racism implicit in it of the masculinizing black women that is something that is a trend that is involved in racist discourse and rhetoric.
And, you know, that is where Alex goes.
He has this delegitimizing of Jack Smith based on vague accusations about his career.
And then almost everything else becomes this horrendous shit about Michelle Obama.
If you were somebody who was looking at this with any critical eye, and you were like, well, this is how Alex is responding to this indictment, you're like...
Wow, he has nothing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is all superfluous nonsense.
jordan holmes
I mean, in the only, I mean, I don't think it was self-aware, inexplicably, but the thing that Trump said about how, like, oh, I was talking about the, nobody gave a shit, then I start saying trans stuff and all of you go ape shit, going crazy, ah!
And it's like, yeah, Alex is doing the same thing.
He's just, I got nothing, nothing, nothing, so I'll go hate trans people and it'll do the job.
dan friesen
Sure.
And you'll shift onto these other conversations that you'll try and take the feelings that you inflame in your audience and all this and then sort of try and place that onto the indictment when it has nothing to do with it.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
His wife being involved in a documentary has nothing to do with this prosecution.
Nope.
Unless, I mean, like, if that's the case, if it's the case that everything that your spouse does...
It has implicit impacts on everything that you do.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That's a standard I don't think Alex wants to apply to the world.
Like, it's just, it's ridiculous.
jordan holmes
It is absurd.
I mean, it is ridiculous.
Because there are two people.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Not one person.
The two individual people.
dan friesen
Right.
Yeah.
So, Alex has nothing.
But, uh, he also wants to touch on the fires in Canada.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Uh, because why not?
jordan holmes
Because why not?
dan friesen
They're all, uh, Antifa.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Still burning?
dan friesen
Maybe not, but Antifa did all the ones in America that last time that Alex lied about this.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so, yeah, now it's the clock.
jordan holmes
Now they're in, yeah, okay.
alex jones
So it's all completely cuckoo land.
These people are not gonna stop.
And, uh...
Civilization, as we know, could end at any time.
We've now got the satellite footage and images confirming what major forestry former officials have come out and said in Canada.
I mean, former deputy heads of their forestry service, former deputy heads of their firefighting service have come out and said, listen, you don't have 25 fires break out in one hour hundreds of miles apart.
Somebody's setting these.
And then the government isn't going out and battling them.
It's all part of the crisis creation.
And so Chuckie Schumer says, pass our carbon tax rules, shut down more U.S. power plants, that'll put the fires out in Canada.
No, if you wait until there's dry weather and high winds, and you send a team of ten people out to set three or four fires apiece, and you know who it is, it's a leftist cult of forest rangers.
That's who's doing it.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry?
alex jones
Set the damn fires all over the country.
It's just 25 fires set in 100 square miles in one area of eastern Canada.
It's the whole country got lit on fire last week.
And remember, over a dozen Antifa members got caught setting fires.
That's the police catching them.
dan friesen
They didn't.
Yeah, that's all made up.
Everything Alex is saying is just made up abstractions of his own ideas.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean...
dan friesen
Go ahead, sorry.
jordan holmes
I'm not saying that it's not possible.
In fact, I'm sure...
dan friesen
What, a leftist cult of rangers?
jordan holmes
No, I'm sure that there's got to be at least one forest ranger out there who's just like, well, it's better than Line Cook.
But every forest ranger that I've ever interacted with or experienced...
Passionate.
Extremely passionate about the forest!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Of all the things they would set on fire, I'm not saying they wouldn't set anything on fire, but none of them would be the forest.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, I mean, this is just the exact same story as the last time Alex lied about...
It comes down to lightning in dry areas.
That'll start fires.
There's a lot of accidental fires from cigarette butts, fireworks, and the like.
Well, that provides the circumstances wherein the fires get worse.
But then, you know...
Obviously, there are, every now and again, a couple of arsons.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Sometimes it's someone setting a fire for fun.
Sometimes it's somebody burning something and then it accidentally catches some wilderness.
There are instances of arsons.
In terms of the Canadian fires, I wouldn't be surprised if maybe one or two were set intentionally by somebody.
Maybe not to start a wildfire.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
But, you know, that's just a reality of...
The world.
jordan holmes
We've seen it happen with birth reveals or gender reveals or whatever.
dan friesen
But that would be more categorized in the accidental stuff.
And that does also happen.
Sure.
It's pretty ridiculous, what Alex is suggesting.
And someone like Chuck Schumer isn't saying, hey, turn off power plants and it'll stop these fires.
Just the element that you're talking about.
The climate change that's exacerbated by our consumption and such is creating the circumstances where these fires are worse.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's not going to be an on-off switch, but there's things we can do to make the damage lesser.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And we're not doing those things.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
To a certain extent, this is just, it's like, yeah, man, here we are.
This is what we've done.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Not much to say beyond get ready for more.
dan friesen
So when I hear somebody with these outlandish theories and, you know, these ideas of teams of leftist cult members who are in the forestry service, I like to generally listen to other things they say.
See if I can gauge their credibility about, you know, just ideas about the world.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
And so this should be taken as sort of like, you know, hey, if you want to believe that stuff, how about this?
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
They're gremlins.
I mean, I don't know if gremlins really exist.
In World War II, they claimed they saw them.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
alex jones
In World War II, they said, like, little green men, like, breaking equipment on the planes.
We don't know what the hell they were doing.
They would appear in a green fog and start wrecking equipment.
Like, local Las Vegas.
jordan holmes
Are you literally talking about the Twilight Zone?
alex jones
Giant green men popping up in the backyards.
Huge blind saucers crashing.
The police said they saw it, too.
jordan holmes
There's a bat on the wing of the plane!
alex jones
Stuff's getting really weird, folks.
unidentified
Stuff's getting really cuckoo now.
alex jones
I don't know if gremlins are real, but the Democratic Party and the Communists are gremlins.
dan friesen
Yeah, so gremlins might be real.
jordan holmes
I don't know if gremlins are real, but I do know they are gremlins.
dan friesen
Yeah, they might be real.
jordan holmes
That is a deep statement in a very strange way.
dan friesen
So Alex talks about big green men in backyards and UFO in Las Vegas, and that's just a hoax?
unidentified
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
That happened?
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
So a little while back, somebody called in to the Las Vegas police and said that there were eight, nine feet tall people in their backyard.
Sure.
And they were aliens or something.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
They believed them to be aliens.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
And the police showed up, and there had been a shooting star that they'd seen.
And so the police showed up and talked to them.
And actually, if you watch the footage of it, it's kind of funny.
Because the cop, as they're leaving, because they don't want to be in the car, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Maybe people were on drugs.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Possible.
dan friesen
So anyway, what happened is the audio of this phone call, this 911 call, and the reality of the fact that there was video of the police going out to talk to these people was then repackaged with someone who made a CGI video of a big alien in someone's backyard.
And Alex has swallowed for this.
jordan holmes
You know what?
This is really casting doubt on the leftist forest ranger cult.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It is making it very hard to believe him about any other things.
dan friesen
But then, what do you think about gremlins?
jordan holmes
Well, I don't know if they're real, but I do know who are they.
dan friesen
Don't feed them.
Hey, never seen gremlins.
jordan holmes
Never seen gremlins?
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Not even gremlins 2?
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Never.
That's not one of them that everyone tells me to watch and I'm about to.
Like John Wick and Spider-Verse.
jordan holmes
You'll be fine.
I would suggest seeing Gremlins 2, but that's just more for fun.
dan friesen
You like that batch?
jordan holmes
Eh!
dan friesen
Alright.
So Alex could have been in the movies, as we know.
Star-Lord?
Sure.
Almost Star-Lord in Guardians of the Galaxy.
It was this close to an Oscar for his star turn in A Scanner Darkly.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Where he was in like 10 seconds of the movie.
jordan holmes
And he's been in so many Hollywood parties and he's been offered so many roles that he's just turned down because he's like, I mean, you guys are clearly evil and I'm not going to sell my soul.
dan friesen
Well, they literally ask him to pledge himself to the devil in order to get any roles.
Right.
He was also one of the most sought-after voice actors until he started criticizing Obama, and then Obama shut him down.
And so here is a little sample of his acting range.
He does an impression of a deputy UN head here that I think is stellar.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
I never got this clip yesterday of the deputy head of the EU who's like, And we will teach you Americans that you will not challenge us.
If you engage in speech we do not like, then have you arrested.
alex jones
I mean, this is a real quote.
unidentified
So, we are watching you Americans very closely, and you will eat the bugs, and you will give us your children, and oh, and we're going to catch your daughter's rest off.
It's over, and you will close the sewage, and we're closing half the Dutch farms, and Ireland is passing laws, and you will not have any food anymore!
And we bring in the Muslims to stab the children at the park.
Good stabsy babies!
See how he likes it?
Cuckoo!
Cuckoo!
dan friesen
Yeah, good impression.
He doesn't actually end up getting to that clip either.
jordan holmes
You don't think?
dan friesen
No, he doesn't.
jordan holmes
I mean, I got Marvin the Martian at first.
dan friesen
Yeah, there was a little bit of that.
jordan holmes
There was a little bit of that.
Right.
And then after that, he lost it.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
And was just trying to do a hoity-toity, I believe, accent of some sort.
dan friesen
And he was getting into just like vague non-sequiturs from Klaus Schwab stories.
jordan holmes
Right.
And then he dipped into the Soros because he just can't stop himself.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, he's good.
What can you say?
jordan holmes
He's got the chops.
dan friesen
I think he studied with Stanislavski.
jordan holmes
You think so?
dan friesen
Yeah, I think so.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I don't know enough about this.
jordan holmes
Other acting coach things people say.
dan friesen
Del Close.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, he's a real yes-ander, that's for sure.
dan friesen
I think he was one of the original UCB guys.
jordan holmes
You think so?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
So it was Matt Walsh and Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Ian Roberts, Alex Jones.
Yep.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
I think so.
jordan holmes
Okay, that sounds right.
dan friesen
Yeah, didn't you see him in the show?
Because, you know, if you watch the old UCB show, you'll see Paul Scheer is in the audience of one of the sketches that they're doing when they needed a bunch of people.
So you can see Andy Daly and some of these other people.
You wouldn't know their names until much later.
Alex Jones is in that.
jordan holmes
Do you know what else?
He was, and a lot of people don't know this, but now that after the January 6th thing has come out, he was a writer on Mr. Show, too.
dan friesen
Is that right?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think he wrote the Little Donnie sketch from UCB.
jordan holmes
Alright.
Okay.
dan friesen
So, Alex thinks that maybe God should just destroy the world.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because things have gone too far.
jordan holmes
We're there.
dan friesen
Trump has been indicted.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Yeah, just fucking destroy the world.
jordan holmes
Yeah, okay.
alex jones
And yeah, a large part of the public can't find their ass in both hands.
But those people don't matter.
They're just your stooges.
But the thinking people of every color, race, gender, you name it, know exactly what's going on.
And you guys are not going to get away with this.
But I'll give it to you.
You may just destroy the planet.
And you know what?
Let's just start over.
It's kind of like what you said a month ago.
All right, let's just have a nuclear war.
I mean, at a certain point...
I mean, let's just kill all the Russians.
They can kill all of us.
unidentified
And they'll get me, but they'll get the globalists too.
jordan holmes
So you know what?
alex jones
Absolutely.
Before you cut off more children's penises and everything, God, maybe it is just time to just wipe us off the face of the earth.
And if I get stepped on the process, I'll just kiss your foot while it stomps me flatter than a pancake.
But you know what?
The children don't deserve that, so we've got to fight to preserve civilization.
But I've got to tell you.
unidentified
Glad you got there.
alex jones
Crazy.
dan friesen
Let alone in fact, no kids died in the flood.
In the Bible.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
Well, God doesn't want to hurt no women, no kids.
That's God's rule.
You know, if you've read the Bible, it's very much, you know, he's like an assassin with a code.
dan friesen
Yeah, weird.
So we're in that headspace.
Maybe Medvedev is right that we should have a fucking nuclear war.
jordan holmes
Hey, let's kill everybody, but we're not going to do it because the children don't deserve it or whatever.
dan friesen
But maybe we should kill everybody!
Maybe that's what God wants!
jordan holmes
That's what he should do!
dan friesen
Gotta protect the kids.
jordan holmes
Oh, we have a very strange God who puts us here and then won't kill us all because of the kids, I guess?
I don't know.
dan friesen
The God is strange when the head is strange.
When Alex is the person who's interpreting God, that's where it gets strange.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we all have our own kind of God inside of us each.
And the only one that I'm scared of is Alex's.
I'm really terrified of it.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because Alex is terrified.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So, you know, Alex, I think his audience is mostly not thrilled with Trump.
Don't want him to be a leader.
The vaccines, real serious problem.
jordan holmes
Again, he's a great big murderer if their cosmology is true.
dan friesen
Yeah, RFK Jr., maybe.
Somebody who's interesting.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
DeSantis, kind of soft.
Maybe not the kind of person we necessarily need.
No real good fascist strongman appearing for them as a leader.
jordan holmes
Not yet.
dan friesen
Necessarily.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, I have indicated that I think the smart thing for Alex to do is burn Trump.
Just be done with it.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And, I think an indictment?
Maybe a good off-ramp.
Maybe a good place to just say, fuck it.
jordan holmes
Here's the thing.
This is the most visually easy to explain crime I think you can imagine.
You know what I'm saying?
Fine.
He had confidential documents that he brought home with him.
unidentified
Is it a manila folder?
jordan holmes
Is it something that he was taking care of?
Was it in his desk?
No.
Giant boxes, just like you'd see at a shittily run office in the bathroom.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's just gotta stop.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, like, I would say, you know, the New York Times described my apartment as rumpled, and it's fair.
There's clutter and stuff.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
No confidential documents.
jordan holmes
None.
dan friesen
I'm confident of that.
jordan holmes
Do you know why?
It would just be tacky to keep him here.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's just tacky.
That's his real crime.
Tacky.
dan friesen
It's gauche.
It's gauche.
But yeah, so Alex goes the other direction.
He's decided now he's 100% on board.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
alex jones
So I am now 100% because I'm not a coward.
If I turn against Trump, they leave me alone.
They have grand juries open on all of us.
I'm 100% behind Trump.
And I pledge myself to get him re-elected and to fight these illegal charges and this fraud because I must be with the man in the arena.
I must be with the lions surrounded by the hyenas because I'm not a hyena or a rat.
I'm a lion as well.
And I challenge all of you that have been on the fence to get behind Trump because you know a man by his enemies and they're coming for him at every level.
dan friesen
Okay, so you went the other direction.
I think this might actually be a good plan too because I don't think that...
Trump is going to dodge this.
I think now that there's an indictment, I think he's probably going to get charged.
And he's going to get convicted.
I think.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I'm looking at you and you're looking at me because I get the sense that you don't.
jordan holmes
Honestly, I refuse to even speculate.
I have no idea.
dan friesen
I just don't know.
It's tough to have faith in processes at this point.
I agree with you there.
But I think if you're trying to war game this out and you're someone like Alex, I think he's probably got a good sense that Trump's fucked.
It's not looking good.
Support the shit out of him if he goes to prison.
Then you have your president in lockup.
There's a lot of narrative use there.
And then at the same time, you can support somebody else to be the actual candidate and your big strongman guy.
This allows you to retain some amount of our hero who has been...
Well, I mean, Napoleon comes up later.
Great.
jordan holmes
Good call.
Well, I assume they weren't going to go with Mandela.
For some reason, I'm going to assume they weren't going to be like, we love Mandela now.
I just don't know why.
dan friesen
This is Trump's Robin Island.
Exactly.
jordan holmes
I don't think they're going to go there.
dan friesen
No, probably not.
But, yeah, it gives you that opportunity to retain him as a narrative tool and then still have your...
Moneymaker, big boy, strongman over there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, if you're Alex, the best thing that can happen is Trump goes to jail.
That's the best thing, because now you don't have to deal with the consequences of what it is that you're lying about.
dan friesen
It gets you off the hook for the consequences.
It gets you off the hook for the fact that your audience is pissed that he did warp speed.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
Because then he's not going to be the president, and so who cares if you support him?
jordan holmes
Whatever.
dan friesen
Your audience can suffer through that, or they can, you know...
Close their nose and accept some supportive Trump as the guy who's in jail.
jordan holmes
They love everything.
But nothing so much as a political martyr.
They'll make him up if they don't have one readily available.
dan friesen
Right.
So that would be good for them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they'd love that.
dan friesen
So yeah, I think that's probably a wise money-making decision for Alex.
But we'll see as time goes on.
jordan holmes
Has anybody just realized that the best thing for all of us is if Trump goes to jail, right?
It's the best thing.
dan friesen
Probably good for Trump, too.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
It's the best thing for everybody if he just goes to jail.
dan friesen
It might not be the best for Trump.
He's pretty old.
I mean, even if he gets a few years, that could be the rest of his life.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, hopefully it'll be more than a few, but let's...
dan friesen
Might be good for him, though.
I mean, you could probably sell a book.
jordan holmes
Let's see if he can write a book.
dan friesen
Someone else is going to write it.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
He should have to.
That's my new jail sentence.
Let him live in Mar-a-Lago, but he has to write a book.
dan friesen
You're like one of those wacky judges.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
Let the punishment fit the crime.
dan friesen
People wearing sandwich boards saying I stole or whatever.
jordan holmes
Fuck it.
I don't give a shit.
Jail is for silly people.
dan friesen
I don't think that works.
I'm not sure, though.
I haven't done any research, but my feeling is that that sort of...
It doesn't work and just makes people mad.
jordan holmes
Well, if there's anything I know, it's that the carceral state works.
dan friesen
True.
Not really.
But, someone who dodged the carceral state, Roger Stone.
If you're gonna have somebody on to talk about how Trump got indicted, the person you want is the guy who went to jail and then Trump got out.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
dan friesen
The long-time rat fucker slash associate of Trump who found God because Trump pardoned him.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
I just don't know what to do.
dan friesen
Perfect guest.
jordan holmes
I mean, the...
The funniness of Roger Stone, in my mind, of Roger Stone going, checking in at the prison, and then going to visit a...
Imprisoned Donald Trump just being like, thanks for pardoning me, buddy.
And then walking out.
And then walking out like fucking Kaiser Soce.
Like, I finally won against all of you!
dan friesen
He brings a mic to drop.
jordan holmes
Absolutely!
No, I mean, you don't get more of a winner out of this crime syndicate than Roger Stone, I guess.
dan friesen
You got stoned.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
unidentified
Yes!
jordan holmes
He's the one who's outlived everyone and isn't in jail!
dan friesen
So they think that you can't charge...
Presidents or former presidents, and if you do, society collapses.
roger stone
It's sickening.
It is, but you're absolutely right.
Does the Constitution matter?
Is there any...
Elementary fairness in our judicial system?
I guess we're going to find out.
alex jones
Well, let's be clear.
The reason nobody ever endowed a president, and some obviously deserved it, is it creates a permanent constitutional crisis where any local or federal prosecutor can become king and take over, and that caused the decline of Rome.
It caused the decline of third world countries.
This is cancer.
This is guaranteed to now create sectarian destabilization and total destruction of the country.
This always leads to...
To the collapse of empires.
They have literally fed the government and the country a freaking cyanide bill doing this.
It is insane.
roger stone
I could not agree with you more, Alex.
We have crossed an important Rubicon.
dan friesen
Oh, thank God that Alex has never called for, like, Clinton or Bush or Obama to be arrested or...
You know, while they were in office or after...
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, if he had, he would essentially be saying, I want to make the entire country collapse.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
That's what he was...
dan friesen
The only thing that's holding the fabric of our society together is the fact that we don't charge presidents with crimes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, and again, I don't know everything about history, but historically speaking...
Not holding your leadership accountable is the best way to live a great society that won't collapse or fight in wars or be run over by Nepo babies and etc.
dan friesen
It turns out that societies and cultures can erode and political systems and countries can destabilize and see collapse through either.
You can either let people get away with everything or...
It turns out maybe this isn't a variable that is necessarily determinative.
So Roger, ever the thinker.
jordan holmes
Deep thinker.
dan friesen
He has a plan.
jordan holmes
Okay.
I'm listening.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is a good plan.
jordan holmes
I like plans.
roger stone
So it seems to me that the action here, assuming that everything that has been reported about these documents, about the whistleblower, about the cover-up by the FBI, is accurate.
Then the only news story that would trump the indictment of Donald Trump is a vote by the House Republicans to impeach Joe Biden.
They have the votes.
If they really have the evidence, then they should.
That is precisely what they should do.
This then becomes a game of chicken.
Trump may be going to trial in Miami, perhaps in other jurisdictions, but Joe Biden will have to go to trial in the U.S. Senate.
And I would suggest, and he's not my favorite guy, but he's a hell of a smart guy.
I would put Ted Cruz in charge of the prosecution within the Senate.
dan friesen
Getting ahead of yourself a little bit here.
But yeah, these aren't serious people.
This is not serious.
jordan holmes
So here's what we do.
You take one of ours, we take one of yours.
So then what?
Then what?
Then what do you do?
What are you going to do now?
We got one of yours.
dan friesen
You're in a standoff.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
What are we doing?
What are we doing here?
Quentin Tarantino directed this political machination.
dan friesen
I think Roger may have been in the shithead media space for too long now, because the way he's kind of looking at this is not really politically useful, but it is useful for someone like Alex, and that is, like, how do we change the narrative?
How do we shift the narrative?
How do we take control of this?
And yeah, for someone like Alex or any of these dum-dum pundits who do this game...
You know, impeaching Biden would be a good way for them to create the new headline, the new story.
Get attention away from this.
And Roger's correct on that front, but it's not meaningful in any sense for politics or for making our country better or making things run smoother.
It's just kind of shitty distraction tactics.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and I think what's fascinating about that is that I don't think anybody gives a shit about impeachment anymore.
dan friesen
I mean, we're tired.
jordan holmes
I mean, you just, you lose.
You've lost everybody.
You've revealed how stupid the even idea of impeachment really is.
If you do it four times in the past 20 years and never do anything other than reveal that people are going to go, well, I'm a D, so bleh, and I'm an R, so bleh.
That's it.
dan friesen
Yeah, it does.
I think the process of it has been revealed to be not an effective check.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's a waste of everybody's time.
dan friesen
And so that's fun.
Maybe we should rewrite some of those rules.
jordan holmes
Maybe we should figure that out.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That would be useful.
dan friesen
But there's no time.
jordan holmes
No, we don't have time.
dan friesen
We don't have time.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Because we have to lock her up.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
We're here?
She's back?
dan friesen
Lock her up.
jordan holmes
Did she just break through the wall?
dan friesen
Lock her up.
jordan holmes
Okay.
roger stone
Hillary Clinton is doing cartwheels today.
She's out selling hats that say, what about the emails?
Yeah, what about the emails?
Hillary Clinton destroyed with a hammer and beach blit 33,000 emails, including classified information, that was on an illegal server, and she was never prosecuted.
James Comey gave her a pass.
She is rubbing our face in it right now that Donald Trump has been charged.
She's out screaming, crowing about the fact that there's a two-tiered justice system.
By the way, there's no statute of limitations on treason.
You don't think it's occurred to her that Donald Trump gets back in the White House, she and her husband might be prosecuted?
I mean, they did sell...
Top secret, mystical targeting information to the Chinese in return for illegal campaign contributions.
dan friesen
Wait, I thought it was Uranium One.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, you're messing up your own.
dan friesen
What are we doing?
jordan holmes
You're messing up your own thing.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
We've got to lock her up.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Hillary, baby.
jordan holmes
You know, it is maybe the...
Smallest and saddest of fart sounds to bring up Hillary's emails in 2023.
dan friesen
To be fair, I mean, I did see an ad that Hillary was selling hats and stuff.
And, you know, maybe slightly tacky as a fundraising thing.
I can understand how that would piss Roger off.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But this is sad.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is sad.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This is very sad.
dan friesen
Get Ted Cruz on that impeachment.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex has a bunch of stackies.
He's got a lot of paper in front of him.
jordan holmes
Tons of stuff to get through.
dan friesen
He's got to get to...
There's so much news.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And the story he decides to land on is about an immigrant refugee in France stabbing people.
Because, of course, probably the most important news story.
jordan holmes
I am surprised that that in France is news here.
dan friesen
Well, for Alex it is.
alex jones
Let me just do this, because I've got so much to cover, and it's so frustrating.
I get in here so many days, and after the show I go, man, I covered five stacks, there were 30 stacks.
Today there's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26 stacks.
Some stacks are 30, 40 articles, some stacks are 5 articles.
30 plus stacks here.
Each one of these is an incredible story illustrating these people.
Each one of these is a whole show.
A psychotic Islamic Arab running around.
Stabbing eight people, many of them babies, with a butcher knife.
And if you try to say he's a Muslim, you're banned off the Internet.
jordan holmes
He's a Muslim.
alex jones
And he's trying to have Elon Musk arrested if he allows this video to be seen on Twitter.
I have a clip of him saying that.
The crime isn't stabbing babies.
The crime is letting you know it's happening.
And the crime is those women...
I mean, what woman...
Would go out anywhere without a handgun in their purse.
Oh, sorry.
Can't have it.
Imagine if that was Texas.
There's 21 at that park.
Guarantee you two of them, three of them would have a gun.
That guy tried that.
He'd be dead in seconds.
She'd unload that revolver or that handgun right to his filthy chest.
He'd be gone, gone, gone.
But instead he could run around in Al-Akbar and stab a bunch of these French women.
How many of those French women do you think?
Not so fast now.
Cute.
unidentified
He stabs those babies in the head.
alex jones
Yeah, I got some footage of him stabbing the baby in the stroller out here.
And look how weak that guy is, man.
What?
unidentified
Yeah, I'd like to spit some beech nut in that dude's eye and shoot him in my old 40s.
alex jones
Jesus.
jordan holmes
What the fuck?
dan friesen
So...
That's where we're at.
That's where we're going with from the stackies.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Sort of ruminating and fantasizing about this attack.
jordan holmes
Shouldn't it be indicative of how infrequent these things are if you have to scramble to get a story from France?
dan friesen
Nah, nah, nah, nah.
Because here's the way you do it.
You do this, and you obsessively cover this, and you're like, I'm gonna play this video of people stabbing babies, and like, you know, all this.
And then you also say, this happened so much that I can't ever even get to it.
You just say, you imply that you have hundreds of these videos, because they're happening every day, all the time, everywhere.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then the audience believes you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's the thing that I am struggling with.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You shouldn't believe it.
dan friesen
Right, well, they do.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's not good.
dan friesen
Well, it satisfies the Xeno.
Homophobic and racist narratives that Infowars perpetuates and sells.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, that is, there's this constant barrage of violence against white people done by non-white people, and no one's ever allowed to talk about it.
You can't even post about this.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You know, because there's a cover-up of these crimes, because the...
Everyone's trying to white genocide.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Alex actually accidentally does bring up something that I think might be a good point.
What's that?
Nominally, not a gun guy, but I do think all women should be allowed to have guns and no men should.
And all women should be carrying a snub-nosed revolver with them at all times.
dan friesen
Interesting.
jordan holmes
Because men are violent.
You know?
They shouldn't have guns.
dan friesen
It's an interesting policy suggestion.
jordan holmes
Yep.
All women must carry, no men can.
dan friesen
I'm suspecting that maybe Elon Musk or Twitter doesn't want you to post videos of this because it's people getting stabbed.
I'm feeling like maybe that's the reason that those videos aren't allowed.
I don't know.
I don't travel in enough Twitter to know, but I feel like most of the time...
Horrible violence videos generally aren't...
jordan holmes
Aren't murder videos not supposed to be?
dan friesen
I feel like they're not.
But I don't think anyone died in this attack.
I think people were just injured.
But still, it's attempted murder.
jordan holmes
I don't even like watching replays where people twist their ankle at a basketball court.
It's like, no, it hurts!
dan friesen
I don't like those bail videos of skating.
jordan holmes
No, that hurts.
You hurt yourself.
Go to the doctor.
dan friesen
So Alex will get back to this story later, and it'll get grotesque.
Sure.
But not quite yet, because Alex has to talk about how he would be in favor if they...
I'm sorry, he would be against it if Biden got indicted.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Which is bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right?
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
What are you talking about?
alex jones
Local prosecutors indicted Biden.
I would say that's dangerous.
He should just step down and go away.
That's why Napoleon, they never put him in prison.
I just sent him to an island.
jordan holmes
Completely different.
dan friesen
Does he think that they sent Napoleon on a vacation?
jordan holmes
See, they sent him to an island and said you can never leave, which is completely different from a prison.
dan friesen
Yeah, they sent him to Elba, and then he escaped, and then he tried to cause a bunch of shit, and then he got sent to St. Helena, where he died.
jordan holmes
Which is why you keep him there.
unidentified
There were soldiers that kept him on St. Helena.
jordan holmes
Exactly, because he can cause too many problems.
He's fucking Napoleon.
dan friesen
It's a prison island.
jordan holmes
You can't trust Napoleon.
That's just not hard.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's why they never sent him to Jerusalem.
jordan holmes
Very dumb.
These things wouldn't be happening if leaders were held accountable.
dan friesen
Maybe.
Maybe.
But Alex also would be gung-ho all for it if they indicted Biden for anything.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
They're screaming about his son having a laptop and they're like, indict him for crime.
dan friesen
And Alex would never suggest that indicting Biden is a collapse of society thing.
unidentified
No, no, no.
dan friesen
It's ridiculous.
jordan holmes
That would be how we get society back.
dan friesen
There is a time, though.
A time and a place where you should indict somebody.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
There's a reason this isn't done.
It's really bad.
And the fact they think they can contain it, Republicans are now going to start indicting Democrat presidents.
And the time to indict them is when they're not in office like Hillary Clinton was never president.
And I don't want to say it's a necessary evil to have presidents, you know, quote, be above the law.
They're not above the law.
And they can be impeached in Congress and removed.
But when you can have federal prosecutors go out and do this, all the separation of powers is gone.
dan friesen
So if Alex thinks that the time to indict someone is when they're not in office, Trump's not in office.
But Alex thinks he is.
So Alex thinks that this is actually indicting the rightful president who's spiritually or accurately in office.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That's strange.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was very confused by that.
The time to indict them is when they're not in office.
I was like, you nailed it, buddy.
dan friesen
I think that that is what he's getting at.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Is that, you know, Trump is the rightful president.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
That's a problem.
jordan holmes
That's no good.
dan friesen
Nah.
jordan holmes
Nah.
dan friesen
So, in order to distract and deflect from the reality of this indictment, like I said, he attacks Jack Smith a bunch.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And then his wife, by virtue of her connection to the documentary about Michelle.
jordan holmes
Allows him to be racist and transphobic.
dan friesen
Yep, and so that's what he does for a bit now.
So, a little bit of a content warning.
A whole bunch of Michelle Obama is a dude stuff.
jordan holmes
Great, great, great.
dan friesen
So, get ready.
jordan holmes
Cool.
dan friesen
And skip ahead if you don't want to hear this.
alex jones
Here's Joan Rivers a few weeks before she died talking about what everybody knows is the truth.
And I'm not joking when I say it.
We even know the name of him, where he went to football when he did.
And I don't dislike Big Mike because he wanted to be a woman.
And Obama wanted to be able to marry his boyfriend.
Or the fact that the daughters really aren't their daughters.
That's well known.
This is how they blackmail and control Obama.
It's all part of the big joke in all our faces.
Look, if Big Mike wants to be, you know, dressed up like a woman, that's fine.
It's just that we're going to talk about the fact that Jack Smith, the prosecutor, the UN prosecutor's wife, works for him.
That's a major conflict of interest.
So here's Joan Rivers talking about Big Mike.
dan friesen
So this is grotesque, and...
This is so far off the beaten path of talking about the indictment that it's almost comical.
But one thing that I think about is when Alex was called out about this a few years back about the Michelle Obama stuff, he insisted he was joking.
He insisted that this wasn't something that they covered seriously and it's just a joke.
It's important to recognize that when he says that, it's just because he's not ready to take responsibility for the things that he said.
He never meant this as a joke.
It was just convenient for him to say he was joking to get out of an indefensible situation that he was in at that point.
And now, I guess he just feels like, no, I can own this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I'm of the opinion that the far right...
Only ever laughs when they're telling the truth.
Because then they can laugh at people for thinking they're joking.
Like, it makes them laugh whenever, you know, Oh, hey, I'm calling her, you know.
dan friesen
Yeah, there is that dynamic.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because they mean it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And I think that you should not be fooled by Alex when he...
He makes those kind of protestations to get himself out of a bind and be like, I wasn't serious, I was joking.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, they're not joking.
dan friesen
You're not.
jordan holmes
They're not joking.
dan friesen
No.
And he has this evidence that he plays of Obama calling Michelle Michael.
And that's really interesting.
Or it's not.
alex jones
Hey, go ahead and play the clip, guys.
This is Obama calls.
He's done this twice.
On the stage, Michelle Obama, Michael.
Here it is.
unidentified
Most of all, Admiral Mullen, Deborah, Michael and I also want to acknowledge your son Jack, who's deployed today.
All of you have performed extraordinary service to our country.
alex jones
Hmm.
He does it other times, too.
Calls her Michael.
dan friesen
I would guess...
That there was a confusion with the teleprompter or something.
There wasn't a comma where it should have been.
Because he says, like, Admiral Mullen, Deborah, Michael...
And I. And I would like to, you know, Michael, comma, and I would like to personally point out Jack who's in service.
This is something that's been explained and debunked for a very long time.
The only reason you would ever put this forward as meaning anything is if you were a vicious transphobic racist who is desperate and didn't care about the truth to any extent.
This is absurd.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No.
dan friesen
This level of pulling this clip out.
jordan holmes
I mean, it does feel like we are in a Bugs Bunny cartoon.
You know, like where he's drawing the line with his foot.
Step over this one.
Over and over and over again.
Trump just keeps committing crimes.
Like, it started with him being a fucking sexually assaulting rapist, and then it went to Russia, and every time he just commits more and more crimes, and the right is like, ah, well, fuck it.
We don't care.
We don't care.
And then this shit is bananas.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And I think it's because of the destructiveness and the lust for power that Trump embodies that resonates so deeply with these folks.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And they have an awareness that you consolidate enough power, you can crush all the people that you don't like.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And you can put up with a lot in order to get there, you know?
It turns out.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yep.
That part with the Obama stuff is passed now at this point.
But now we have another severe content warning.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
And I'm going to stress this one hard.
And that is that Alex plays the video of that stabbing.
There'll be some audio from that.
So you'll hear some of that.
And I would absolutely not play it, except for the things that Alex says over it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And so there really was no way around this.
Oh, my God.
jordan holmes
He does not talk over a stabbing video.
dan friesen
He does.
Oh, my God.
And yeah, I could understand someone having a difficult time hearing the screams and stuff like that, so I would understand.
You know what?
It might be the rest of the episode, so you gotta check out.
I understand.
We'll see you next time.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
You take care.
dan friesen
But for now, we'll get into this, and Alex starts off by saying, hey man, I don't really even want to cover this.
alex jones
I haven't gotten to this footage, and I really don't want to air it, but because...
jordan holmes
Trump was indicted and I need to distract.
alex jones
The EU is threatening and keeping it from airing.
I'm going to air it.
What I'm going to do is I'm going to do it in the first five minutes of the next hour.
I'm going to show multiple young babies and citizens of France, eight people, stabbed in some critical condition, stabbed in the face, the abdomen, by an Islamic nutball, running around at a city park in France.
dan friesen
So I want to touch on this with the I don't want to play this video thing.
I don't believe that.
For a second.
Because Alex was thrilled to play all the graphic gory shit from that mall shooting a little while back.
He loves this kind of stuff.
If there was more footage of people getting killed in other shootings and stuff like that, I have no doubt in my mind that he would play it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
He likes to imagine himself killing the murderer.
He likes to imagine himself being the hero.
dan friesen
I think that's the most generous interpretation.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're right.
That's a good point.
dan friesen
I think he's just a really fucked up dude, and he knows that these things, in the same way that I feel like it would be irresponsible to even cover this stuff without giving people a warning that this is something that's going to be played, and it's really sensitive, I understand that it hits people hard.
Seeing things like a video of someone getting stabbed is...
Very difficult to process.
Even a lot of just, you know, maybe even a fight where people are throwing fists can be, you know, seeing someone get hurt has an emotional impact on you.
And you can use that emotional response to manipulate people.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, it's not hard to draw a direct conclusion that...
If Trump was indicted and you don't want to talk about that, you say that he was wrongfully indicted.
You do that whole thing.
dan friesen
Jack Smith is a fraud.
His wife works for Obama.
jordan holmes
You do the whole thing.
And then, to really emotionally hammer the point home, you show a bunch of stabbing videos to get people all riled up and excited about what you said.
About how everything is all terrible.
This is nakedly disgusting.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
And on purpose.
dan friesen
And I do think also a bit against human decency, quite frankly.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's monstrous.
dan friesen
So we have stressed a lot of times that things that make memes out of Alex are not...
Right.
And always counterproductive.
Yes.
And one of those things was the Alex Bon Iver parody song.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
We've discussed many times the way that he's able to use that to his own advantage.
In the case here is another one of those examples.
He has an instance where a refugee, an immigrant...
He's someone who has committed a crime, and so he's able to use that song to mock the idea of people being offended by his rank xenophobia and bigotry.
And so he even sings it.
alex jones
Here's some headlines today about it.
Weapons amnesty begins for French owners of illegal arms, which is all guns.
That was November of last year.
Well, it's the last week this week.
unidentified
France launches a week-long campaign to collect personal firearms.
alex jones
Last chance, and the amnesty just ended.
Well, right on time, one of the 5 million Islamics brought in to France in just the last decade.
90% of them are on welfare and never get a job.
Giant areas are no-go zones.
Well, Mr. Cool here went out and went to a park and stabbed four babies and four women.
What a tough guy.
Some are fighting for their lives.
Stabbed them with a butcher knife.
Remember the old Alex Jones song?
unidentified
I'm going to stab your daughter at the mall.
I'm going to stab your wife, your son.
And then the police chief says, we love our Somalis.
alex jones
We love our Muslims, too.
Oh, they're so good.
Oh, they're so sweet.
You know, we've got our special guest coming up.
Can we get the version that Rob Dew added documents to to prove everything I was saying?
The Alex Jones does Bon Iver song.
dan friesen
So I understand that these songs and stuff like this can be a lot of fun.
And I respect the craft of that person who made that song.
I think it's well done.
I think it's reasonably funny.
But when the rubber meets the road for me, the idea is eroding Alex's ability to...
Keep his audience in the state that they're in.
Ideally, if you're going to put out things that are critical of him, you want them to be things that he would never sing along to.
This is something that he can use as a tool to delegitimize criticisms of himself.
And to that extent, it is counterproductive.
And to that extent, it is one of the things and one of the tactics that I think is never useful to use against him.
And you can see that here.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I think.
But maybe the simplest rule that I live by is I ask myself, is what I'm about to do going to make Alex Jones smile?
And if the answer is yes, I don't do it.
dan friesen
Right.
And I think the making of that, I can't imagine that the person who made it was in any way even aware that this would be something that Alex could use to his advantage.
And that's something of the issue and something of the message that I wish to convey to folks.
So they're better aware of, like, hey, that's a good idea and that's a lot of fun, but also, you know, you do damage with something like that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I don't think that...
And you know what?
That's also the problem of intention.
You know, like...
This person wasn't making this in order to necessarily attack Alex.
It was something that was funny.
It was meant to be a humorous thing.
And sometimes you don't even consider that kind of stuff.
jordan holmes
And I understand.
That's why I had to make that rule.
Because before I thought I was living my life to make Alex Jones not smile.
But now I realize that I have to make a conscious...
Daily effort to make sure Alex does not smile.
dan friesen
It's a practice.
jordan holmes
It is a practice.
dan friesen
It's like that old DC Talk song, Love is a Verb.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
You gotta do it.
dan friesen
Why is that the reference I came up with?
jordan holmes
I have no idea why you went.
dan friesen
DC Talk.
jordan holmes
You went with DC Talk?
unidentified
What is happening?
dan friesen
Their great album, Jesus Freak.
jordan holmes
What is happening?
dan friesen
What would people think if they find out I'm a Jesus Freak?
jordan holmes
Oh no.
dan friesen
What would people do if they found out it's true?
jordan holmes
I'm being taken back to the 90s.
God camp kids trying to convince me.
No, this is the good news.
dan friesen
Yeah, they invented rap.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
So, Alex gets to playing the video.
So here's where that starts.
alex jones
The version that Rob Dew added documents to to prove everything I was saying, the Alex Jones does Bon Iver song.
It had like 20 million views when they took it off YouTube.
This is what I re-uploaded.
It's got like 10 million views last time I saw.
It had like 300 million views on Spotify.
They took that down.
300 million views.
That's a platinum triple record right there.
We're very proud of it.
But I shouldn't make jokes about it.
Here is a bunch of women howling and screaming.
And no one even told them, hey, you're in a super high crime country.
The Muslims literally feed on you.
Like jackals on little field mice or something.
Maybe you should have a butcher knife.
Maybe you should have a club or something.
No!
You just scream and scream as he plunges the knife.
Lovingly.
And it was a sorrows prostitute.
Here, he'll walk.
Because we deserve it.
We deserve it.
We deserve the kiss of Islamic love.
Here it is.
dan friesen
So...
That's about as disgusting of an intro for that as you can get.
Super grotesque.
The kiss of Muslim love.
jordan holmes
This is grotesque.
dan friesen
Yeah, and the tone that he's using is...
It should be illegal.
jordan holmes
This is psychopath behavior.
This is legitimately, this person is a psychopath.
It's hard not to say that a person who is fucking gleefully...
Inflicting this on other people is not a psycho.
dan friesen
And the way that he's presenting this, there is no real way I think you could argue against the point that he's trying to apply whatever negative feelings you have towards this person who's stabbing people onto Muslims, onto immigrants, all of it.
this is this is the crime of an individual being blamed on everybody of a certain group and the way he's grotesquely doing this voice it is meant to evoke those feelings and project them onto these groups I mean, it's...
jordan holmes
It's as intentional as fucking somebody training attack dogs.
It's literally like, hey, here's an example of the thing we want you to attack, and I'm giving you the red meat to make you know that it's okay.
It's fucking fucked up.
dan friesen
Yep.
And so it goes on here.
Unfortunately, like I said, there's no way that I could play this without it having some of the audio of that in, and I don't...
I like that that is the case, but the way Alex behaves is uncautionable, and, you know, I think I would be doing a disservice by not illustrating this.
alex jones
that comes over the baby carries couple stabs and but I see they're white he's brown they deserve it imagine you're in the morning I think I'll drop by the local jungle gym stabs some babies and toddlers So, this is a very nice person.
And then a man starts chasing him and he runs off.
I wonder if a Soros prosecutor, because he's putting him in there too, will arrest that evil white man that tried to fight him with a book bag and then actually got the knife out of his hand and stopped him so he ran off.
Man, they ought to arrest that guy with the backpack that fought the guy with the knife.
What a freaking white supremacist.
Did you see that KKK Grand Dragon attack that god that was just trying to free France?
But, I mean, the French are committing suicide, but they love it.
They love it.
They love their Macron.
Actually, they don't love it.
But they have their guns taken away.
It's actually very, very sad.
But this is how the West is committing suicide.
dan friesen
So, yeah, that's unacceptable.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's not a person that I think should be allowed near kids.
How about that?
dan friesen
I think it's not a person that should be, like, you can't, you shouldn't be trusted to have a microphone in front of you.
jordan holmes
That's, that's.
dan friesen
You're playing this video that's so emotionally, like, resonant of not only people being attacked, but children being attacked.
And you're just muttering about how, oh, they deserve it because they're white and he's not, he's brown.
Oh, yeah.
This is disgusting.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, this is somebody laying down a voiceover track for a snuff film.
dan friesen
It might as well be.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's what I hear.
dan friesen
And it's a snuff film meant to inflame racist feelings.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
So, I mean, I don't even know what to say because, like, on some level, yeah, this isn't a shock.
This is the kind of thing Alex does.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But it is a shock.
It's disgusting.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it is, it is like...
dan friesen
It's not everyday behavior for him, but it's also not behavior that's outside of his norm.
jordan holmes
To see this should be disqualifying.
You know, it is, it is, I mean, it is, it is a shit ton of boxes of confidential documents inside of a bathroom levels of obviously wrong.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's metaphors here.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's wrong.
We have one last clip, and that's because I don't give a fuck about the third hour.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The third hour is him interviewing a guy named The Dark Journalist.
Nope.
Who's a Project Camelot-ass dude about the UFO stuff.
unidentified
Pass.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm out!
dan friesen
Yeah.
Not interested.
jordan holmes
The Dark Journalist.
dan friesen
The Dark Journalist.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
If you don't fight crime, then you're not a dark journalist.
dan friesen
No.
I was scrolling through his website, and he interviewed Bill Ryan, who's the guy who started Project Camelot with Carrie Cassidy.
So that was fun.
That wasn't too far back.
jordan holmes
Always a good connection.
dan friesen
Anyway, here's Alex talking about the UFO in Las Vegas stuff.
alex jones
Well, he was on with us two, three months ago and predicted that the system would start staging more fake UFO invasions and attacks.
There's a larger, deeper psyop to this.
And now we'll get to it coming up in about 30 minutes.
I'm going to get to the current stuff and some of the latest stuff.
I'm going to get to this.
A big blue UFO crashes in Vegas.
People see eight, ten-foot aliens running around their backyard, and the police see it crash.
I mean, this is PSYOP written all over it, ladies and gentlemen.
And I'm not saying aliens couldn't be real, couldn't be happening, but the ongoing PSYOP of an intel officer says...
They've seen the bodies of the craft, and he's the first dental officer to say it.
unidentified
Really?
alex jones
It's like 50 of them said this.
And so what's the bigger implication here?
dan friesen
So the...
The PSYOP thing here, you have to understand, it's real but also fake.
So the stuff technically happened, but it was a globalist making it happen to look like a UFO and aliens and all this stuff.
But again, what he's talking about is this hoax that he fell for on social media.
jordan holmes
Yes, that's the issue.
dan friesen
Yes.
Now, if he's saying that all this stuff is a PSYOP, though, and this intelligence officer is a PSYOP, then Tucker must be in on it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right?
Because Tucker is way in.
Tucker's like, in a real world, this would be bombshell news!
dan friesen
Frontline!
Front page headlines.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Yeah, because it's the same dude that Tucker was talking about in his first episode.
jordan holmes
Same guy.
dan friesen
So if Alex watched that, he's got to know that Tucker's in on the PSYOP.
unidentified
Oh, man.
dan friesen
He's part of running this PSYOP.
He must be working for the globalists.
jordan holmes
I'm telling you.
I think, and I'll tell you this, maybe the fact that he's extremely wealthy from a rich family and an aristocratic lying cheat con man should have been a good sign that he was in on it.
dan friesen
Maybe it's also a good sign that all these people are talking shit.
jordan holmes
Oh, that is a good point.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Maybe he wasn't even being very serious either.
dan friesen
No, maybe he was just trying to demonize Ukraine.
jordan holmes
Oh my god!
It's almost like they take everything that they don't care about and use it to bludgeon us with bullshit.
dan friesen
It is very similar to that.
jordan holmes
It is very similar to that.
dan friesen
So on some level, I gotta say that the response to the indictment is...
A little underwhelming, but I don't know if anybody could have imagined it wouldn't be.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You know, whenever you expect, like, ha-ha, fireworks, it never really is.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
And then he surprises you out of nowhere on just a random day, he has his blow-ups.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
You know, the tactics of distraction, you know, demonizing the prosecutor in order to demonize the prosecution itself.
Yeah.
Distracting with transphobia, you know, the stabbing bullshit.
Like, that's all...
Kind of what you would expect.
And it's a little bit disappointing because you want the entertaining Alex freaking out, praying, crying on air, something like that.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You know, Jack Smith shoves ISIS up his dirty asshole or something.
You know, whatever.
jordan holmes
The problem is Alex is at his best when nothing is happening and he has to be the entertainment, you know?
Whenever there's something going on, then he has to run interference for Trump.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And then it's like, fuck off.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Do your own.
It's your own show.
You might as well say that you work for him.
dan friesen
And it's interesting, too, that he's been pretty wishy-washy and stuff about where his allegiances lie, but of course it's been pretty transparent that he still loves Trump.
jordan holmes
It's Trump.
dan friesen
But when the temperature gets high enough, which I guess this is a representation of, he comes out and does his, I'm 100% behind him, signed by John Hancock.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And that's kind of worthwhile in some ways, just to have, like, the, you know, forcing a reveal or something.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
But, aliens walk among us in Las Vegas.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, see, that's why you can't really say, oh, how's this legal system gonna play out?
There are aliens.
Maybe we get into a situation, well, maybe that's a PSYOP.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
jordan holmes
Because I don't trust Alex.
dan friesen
Oh, shit.
jordan holmes
All right.
So everybody's lying to me at this point.
unidentified
Fuck.
jordan holmes
I've got Tucker on one side saying they're real.
I don't believe him.
I've got Alex on another side saying they're not real.
I don't believe him.
That means we're stuck in a liminal space where both are real and not real simultaneously, which I assume means that before Trump can be convicted and actually sent to jail, we'll be in an Independence Day scenario and the far right will swoop in, turn him into a Bill Pullman character, and he'll lead us to global defeat.
I think I am Randy Quaid in this scenario, yes.
Yes, I do.
dan friesen
Who do I get to be?
Can I be Goldblum's dad?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Goldblum's dad's the best.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Come on.
Anyway, we'll be back.
Another episode.
But until then, Jordan, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's KnowledgeFight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at KnowledgeFight.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZXClark.
unidentified
Boop, boop.
dan friesen
Oh, you know what?
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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