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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
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Knowledge fight.
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Dan and Jordan.
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Knowledge fight.
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I need money.
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Andy and Kansas.
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Andy and Kansas.
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Stop it.
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Andy and Kansas.
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Andy and Kansas.
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It's time to pray.
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Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your room.
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Knowledge fight.
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No, no, no, no, no, no.
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I love you.
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Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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Oh, indeed we are.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Dan.
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Jordan.
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Quick question for you.
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What's up?
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What's your bright spot today, buddy?
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My bright spot today, Jordan, is last night I went out to trivia.
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I'm sorry, what?
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Went out to a bar trivia.
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You went out to a bar trivia?
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Yeah, with good friend Angela Lampsbury.
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Of course.
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Went out to some bar trivia.
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I was going to say, nobody else you know would drag you out to a bar trivia.
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I enjoy bar trivia, man.
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I know, I understand.
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Yeah, we had a great time.
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Came in second place.
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Ooh.
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Yeah, almost won.
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We would have won if it weren't for one question, which I'll give to you here in a minute.
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Okay.
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But we...
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Did quite well.
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Had a team name.
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It was supposed to be Honk or Honey from the 80s.
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Sure.
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And an 80s slang term.
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Okay.
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So like a slang term first.
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Uh-huh.
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First pitch Angela Lapsbury made was Bitchin' Kissingers.
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Oh, boy.
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And can't beat that.
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Can't beat that.
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Yeah.
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Stuck.
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Because Kissinger in the 80s.
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He was a sex symbol for a while.
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That guy was hot.
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I mean, he wasn't, and yet he somehow was still in newspapers, and people were like, holy shit.
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I don't think that was ever the case.
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It is 100% true.
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Maybe not in the 80s, though.
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He was already 60 by then.
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I don't know.
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I'm telling you.
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Well, it's not like he was ever a good-looking dude.
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I don't know.
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But anyway, we went with that, and yeah, came in second.
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Here's the question.
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Okay.
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So, it was the people who could, big stars who had a breakout in the 80s.
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Okay.
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And so, it was, who was the older brother in Goonies?
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Essentially, was what the question boiled down to.
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Right, right, right, right.
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Who played the older brother in Goonies?
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I don't know, but the only name I have in my head is River Phoenix, so I'm just going to go with that one.
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No.
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Yeah.
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No, obviously not.
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The only name I could come up with from Goonies was Sean Astin.
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Right.
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Oh, yeah, that's right.
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He was in that.
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And it also forced me to confront something that I hadn't realized.
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Wasn't Dawson's Creek in that?
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Joshua Jackson?
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Yeah!
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Or the other guy?
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No, Joshua Jackson.
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I don't know.
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Okay.
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But I realize that I've never seen Goonies.
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I always just thought I had, but I guess I haven't.
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I don't know.
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I have either.
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I remember the truffle shuffle.
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I remember the guy with the eye.
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They never say die, right?
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Yes, yeah.
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I know some references from it.
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Yeah, I think it's one of those things where you've seen more through references than you have.
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Sometimes you don't realize you haven't seen it, much like with George Thurgood.
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You don't realize you've never seen him until you see him, and you're like, whoa.
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Yeah, or it's so many old movie references I originally got from Looney Tunes things.
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Before I ever saw Casablanca, I knew so much about it because Bugs Bunny quoted.
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You know, like that kind of thing.
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Frankly, my dear.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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See, it's Josh Brolin.
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Josh Brolin?
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Yeah.
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Really?
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Yep.
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That son of a...
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Yeah, we would have won had we gotten Josh Brolin.
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Did you have a question that you were particularly like, hey, listen, this is the answer, I know it.
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I guess, because we kind of both knew a lot of them.
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Sure, sure.
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She knew a couple that I wouldn't have gotten.
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But the one that I had that I stood by and was insistent about was finishing a commercial jingle slogan.
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Okay.
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And it was, make it last a little longer, hold tight a little longer.
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What was the brand?
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No idea.
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It's Big Red.
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Big Red!
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The gum!
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Okay, yes.
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And it doesn't feel like that, because in your mind, Big Red, it seems like it's a cinnamon gum or something.
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You wouldn't want to hold tight and kiss Big Red.
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No, I mean, if I were going to go with a gum, I would have gone with Juicy Fruit.
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That would have been the one that would attract for me.
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Or like Winter Mint or whatever, the Double Mint.
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Sure.
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No, but the Double Mint one was the Twins.
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Ah, the Winter.
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Yeah, that makes sense.
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Yeah, so Big Red.
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I remembered their jingle.
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And I felt proud.
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That's good.
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Anyway, what's your bright spot?
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My bright spot is I had to do it.
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I downloaded Legend of Zelda.
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Whoa.
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Played a couple hours.
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What happened to the Jedis?
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I won.
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I beat it.
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Oh, wow.
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Okay.
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That was fast.
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It's a fairly short narrative.
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It's one of those games that you play over and over and over again.
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The main story narrative is only such and such length of time.
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Really satisfying narrative.
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Okay.
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Really, really enjoyable.
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I liked it a lot.
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Good Jedi story.
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But, I mean, you know, you go into...
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We need standardized button controls.
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I can't go back and forth.
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It's hard.
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It drives me insane.
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You get used to it if you go back and forth a little bit more.
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But it is weird, because the X is like the primary button on PlayStation, kind of.
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And then A is primary.
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It's a different position on the Nintendo controller.
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One thing that I would tell you is there is an option to invert the jump button.
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That was the second thing.
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Figured out how to do.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I played maybe 45 seconds before I was like, this doesn't feel right.
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Can't handle it.
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I can't handle jumping with the top button.
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It should be against the law.
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No, because I'm going to jump too much.
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I can't be up there.
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I don't know why we should have standardized parts for just that.
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That would make so much sense.
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Everybody can have their games and do all that stuff, but just make it easy on us for the controls.
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Y 'all have the same number of buttons.
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A lot of games do allow you to sort of remap some of the controller buttons, but not all of them.
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So how are you enjoying it so far?
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Fantastic.
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It's a lot of fun.
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I don't know if I've played any of the story, but just...
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Combining stuff into terrible machinery has been an endless source of joy for me.
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Yeah, and what's fun is along the way, as you play the actual story, you can continue to do that.
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Yeah, no, totally.
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And by the point that you're at, I'm going to guess that there are machine pieces you haven't even counted.
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No, not even close.
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Because there are a couple that I just ran into for the first time.
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And I was like, whoa.
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I genuinely have not made it out of the tutorial area yet.
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Okay.
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So yeah, you haven't encountered a bunch of stuff.
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Nope, nope, nope.
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There was one simple thing where you put the hook next to the board and I was like, yeah, anybody can do that.
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So I made like a four-sided...
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Yeah, I had to do it and then I've just like...
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You're cocky.
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It didn't work.
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Like the whole thing is a mess.
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That's the joy of discovery right there.
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It was fantastic.
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Yeah.
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I had a moment that was a little dumb.
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So a little, like pretty early into the game, you'll end up like, so you find the main camp where like a bunch of the Hylian characters are.
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Sure.
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And you have a little, you have opportunities for side quests or whatever.
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Of course.
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Or you can just wander around.
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And so I decided just to wander around.
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I played hours and I didn't, I realized like.
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Wait, people keep mentioning a camera.
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I'm supposed to have a camera.
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I don't have a camera.
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And so, like, I bet if I go back to the main camp, one of those missions was a camera.
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Oh, totally.
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And so I go back.
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I talk to the person who gives you the camera, and part of that quest involves going underground.
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So you know how there's a whole sky area?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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There's a whole underground area, too.
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Sure, of course.
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Why not?
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And I had no idea for the first ten hours I was playing the game that there's like a third world within the world.
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Oh, boy.
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It was nuts.
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It was just like, I kind of sat back and I was like, well...
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Yeah, I mean...
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The only thing it's missing, really, in terms of being a completely overwhelming game is multiple characters that you can play as.
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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If there were a bunch of playable characters, then it was like, I don't know what to do.
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I can't handle this.
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No, I was never able to get into Minecraft because I would get too into Minecraft in that kind of...
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Do you know what I'm saying?
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Like, once I started with this...
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I haven't left the tutorial area because I've literally just been playing with logs and just combining them into different, you know, it's that kind of like I can't focus until I've created something so weirdly made of logs.
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The end of sentence, you know, it's just, I just have to.
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The thing that ruins, like, Minecraft for me is the people who have, like, got it down to, like, a science, you know?
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Yeah.
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That kind of aspect of it makes it, so, like, what am I going to build?
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Yeah.
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Because people have made, like, computers within the game.
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Yeah, that one's tough.
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He's like, I don't know what to do.
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I think all I'm going to do is make sculptures of logs.
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That's my way of playing tears in the kingdom.
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Yeah.
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I will make several modern art pieces.
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And that's an achievement in and of itself.
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I think so.
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So, Jordan, today, we're going to be talking about some present-day business.
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Ooh.
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Got an episode to go over.
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All right.
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And it actually is sort of a two-pronged episode.
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Okay.
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There's two prongs.
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We're flanking.
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One prong over here.
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One prong over here.
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I don't know if we're flanking anything, but there's two things.
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All right.
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And we'll get down to business on those two things, but before we do, let's say hello to some new wonks.
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Oh, that's a great idea.
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So first, a globalist in a hot tub.
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Thank you so much.
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You're now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much!
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Thank you!
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Next, Moist Oyster.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much!
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This one may be a little bit late.
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I hope I didn't ruin anything with this, but congratulations, Joey and Sush.
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Consider this my save-the-date.
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Thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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I assume we will be congratulating them on their third born or something at that point.
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I hope that you did not.
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I hope you also sent an RSVP.
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Yes.
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And CEO of Diamond Gusset Jeans Co., thank you so much.
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You are now a policy wonk.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Thank you very much.
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And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
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So, thank you so much, too.
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Brandon says, Emily is a policy wonk, and I love her.
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The I there being Brandon, not me.
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Although, Emily, I'm sure you're wonderful.
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You are all now a technocrat.
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I'm a policy wonk.
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Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
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Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
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Daddy Shark.
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Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
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He's a loser little titty baby.
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I don't want to hate black people.
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I renounce Jesus Christ!
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Thank you so much.
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Yes, thank you very much.
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And as I was going through, you know, getting names, particularly it was driven home by this Save the Date one.
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Yeah.
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I realized that, like, inboxes, like, are just unusable.
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And, like, that was six months behind.
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Yeah.
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So, if you would like a shout-out, send a message to knowledgefightatgmail.com.
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Jordan monitors that email address.
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Yep.
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That's the only thing I can say at this point.
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That's the one.
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Yes.
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Send it to that email address.
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I will catch it.
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Uh-huh.
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Yes.
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This is Jordan's, not main job, but this is a mission.
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This is high up on the fucking list, that's for sure.
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And so, yeah.
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Six months behind.
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It feels bad.
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Thank you so much.
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Yes.
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It's hard.
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Yeah.
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This is why.
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People have ads with, like, the same person every time.
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They're like, oh, they do this thing.
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Then you don't give a shit, you know?
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Sure.
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Whenever you back up on people, you're like, this feels miserable.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And it should be a joyous thing.
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It is a joyous thing.
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Right.
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It's bittersweet.
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Joey and Sush got married.
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Yay!
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This should be a day of celebration.
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It's a day for celebration.
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And no, instead, I feel bad.
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Oh, such is that way.
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Oh, also, I forgot.
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Joey and Sush, to save the date, this person wants chicken.
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Good call.
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So, Jordan, like I said, there's two prongs to this.
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And so I'm going to let you choose A or B. And that will determine what we do first.
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Okay.
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Oh, man.
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Now I'm getting into a whole Princess Bride scenario where I'm like, he wants me to choose B because he thinks that I'll obviously choose B, so I'll choose A. But he knows me.
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He knows that I'm going to distrust his A choice.
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All right, fine.
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How about this?
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Okay.
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Let's go with polka dot or stripes.
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Ooh, that's a good one.
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So it doesn't have an inherent order.
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Yeah, it's an inherent order.
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That's a good call.
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Hmm.
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I'm going to have to go with Stripes.
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Okay, Stripes.
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Yes.
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Third favorite Bill Murray movie.
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So that actually works out quite well, because that means that we're going to go in a chronological order of the day.
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So we're talking about May 15th here today, and the two things that happen are Alex hosted Steven Crowder's show.
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Okay, well, don't.
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Stop that.
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That's the first thing.
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How dare he?
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And then Alex had his show.
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From Steven Crowder's studio.
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All right.
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So he just lives at Steven Crowder's place now?
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I think he's trying to take him over.
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I mean, it feels like he's slowly just kind of like, hey.
► 00:14:18
I don't know about slow.
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I'm waiting for him to start calling himself Alex Crowder.
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Yeah, there's a real interesting thing that is going on, clearly.
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Both of them are people who have, like, fraught.
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Intimate relationships, let's say.
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Steven Crowder is in the middle of this divorce and there's a lot of things coming out about the way he treated his wife.
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Alex is certainly somebody who his ex-wife has spoken quite a bit about his abusive habits.
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And so the two of them kind of have that in common.
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They're both shitheads that think they're funny.
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Both made a lot of enemies recently.
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True.
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They're both...
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Isolated, even within the conservative world, to some degree.
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There are only...
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Somewhat fringe figures who really want to associate with either of them.
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They were in a bigger lake and then they both got kicked to the same smaller pond.
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Yeah, they have emotional similarities and then also just sort of concrete business similarities.
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Totally, yeah.
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And they're both in Texas and so the things sort of that bind them appear to be making a more important connection.
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Yeah.
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And so that's fun.
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It's not fun.
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It's pretty bad.
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No, I mean, I suppose two awful, asshole-ish monsters developing a misery-based bond is not good for the rest of the world ever.
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No, no.
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But what is interesting, and I think will play out in ways that I'm not entirely sure how they're going.
► 00:15:57
I can't really predict.
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There's going to be a power struggle.
► 00:16:03
They're both...
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Intensely, for lack of a better word, alpha.
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They are people with massive egos.
► 00:16:14
Oh, yeah.
► 00:16:15
I would guess that the two of them can't coexist, really.
► 00:16:19
It'd be hard to imagine.
► 00:16:21
Yeah.
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They live too close.
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Texas ain't big enough for the both of us.
► 00:16:25
They're gonna end up in a duel.
► 00:16:27
Why not?
► 00:16:28
They seem like the people who should be dueling in 2023.
► 00:16:31
Crowder has a gun on his desk.
► 00:16:33
Yeah, absolutely.
► 00:16:33
Alex had a fucking long gun on his desk.
► 00:16:36
They have a lot in common.
► 00:16:37
These are dueling people.
► 00:16:39
So we're gonna start here with Alex hosting Steven Crowder's show.
► 00:16:44
And so the setup of Steven Crowder's show is there's a co-host who I don't know his name.
► 00:16:51
I think his name's Gerald.
► 00:16:53
He's the CEO of Crowder's business, and he's also the co-host.
► 00:16:59
There used to be another co-host who was supposedly the funny guy, but he left recently and has been shit-talking Crowder quite a bit about how, like, one of the things he said was that Crowder had a button that would tell him to stop talking because he was talking too much.
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Oh my god.
► 00:17:16
The funny guy was talking too much.
► 00:17:17
Wow, wow.
► 00:17:19
Yeah.
► 00:17:20
You had, like, a real moment of, like, If only.
► 00:17:26
I directly tell you mic down if I don't want you to talk over a clip or something.
► 00:17:31
You have the respect.
► 00:17:36
Or I just mute your mic.
► 00:17:38
Give me a shot caller.
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I got the board.
► 00:17:40
Give me a shot caller.
► 00:17:41
Come on.
► 00:17:42
That would even be better because that would be a bit.
► 00:17:44
That would be funny.
► 00:17:45
This is just a private thing that is kind of insulting.
► 00:17:48
It's a real dick move.
► 00:17:49
That guy's not there anymore.
► 00:17:52
He's gone.
► 00:17:53
And so it's really just the two of them and then some third figure who's chiming in.
► 00:17:57
But there's people laughing.
► 00:17:59
And I think that that dynamic isn't healthy for Alex.
► 00:18:02
No.
► 00:18:02
Because they laugh at just about anything.
► 00:18:04
Right.
► 00:18:05
And so Alex really thinks he's funny.
► 00:18:06
Oh, no.
► 00:18:07
And that's not good.
► 00:18:08
Oh, no.
► 00:18:09
Oh, no.
► 00:18:10
Here's where we start.
► 00:18:12
Well, this is surreal.
► 00:18:15
I am sitting here.
► 00:18:20
...human broadcast in the world that's just exploding.
► 00:18:23
It's already exploded years ago, but it's just taking over Rumble, YouTube, everywhere else.
► 00:18:26
Steven Crowder's amazing morning show, and I am here.
► 00:18:31
With my training wheels on, I never get butterflies, which is a very good thing.
► 00:18:35
It's been decades since I get butterflies.
► 00:18:37
I don't get butterflies live on ABC News, but I've got them now.
► 00:18:42
But Gerald, the CEO, is here to hold my hand.
► 00:18:46
We've got a big live transmission lined up for you here today.
► 00:18:50
So yeah, I don't know when Alex has been live on ABC, certainly not lately.
► 00:18:55
No.
► 00:18:56
You might have noticed that jazz?
► 00:18:58
Yeah, I did notice that.
► 00:18:59
That elevator music?
► 00:19:00
Did he swear?
► 00:19:01
No.
► 00:19:01
Oh.
► 00:19:02
So they have a show on YouTube, and they have been on YouTube for a long time.
► 00:19:07
Steven Carter has millions of followers on YouTube.
► 00:19:09
Okay.
► 00:19:10
And now, after he did that unsuccessful stunt with The Daily Wire, he has gotten a large contract with Rumble.
► 00:19:18
And so, what they do is, originally, they had...
► 00:19:24
The beginning of their show on YouTube, like the first hour or something, and then the rest behind a paywall.
► 00:19:31
Now, since then, they've had the bit on YouTube, and then the rest behind a paywall, but...
► 00:19:39
On YouTube, they constantly cut to that elevator music and it implies that something was censored.
► 00:19:46
Or like, this is too dangerous for YouTube.
► 00:19:48
You gotta go watch it on Rumble.
► 00:19:50
They're intentionally trying to drive people away from their YouTube platform over to Rumble.
► 00:19:55
It's a disingenuous sort of, hey, we're too censored.
► 00:19:59
You can't even watch the thing here.
► 00:20:01
This is Alex saying hello and welcome to the show.
► 00:20:05
It's painful.
► 00:20:07
They're trying...
► 00:20:08
We're going to sink the ship of YouTube in order to make people go to Rumble.
► 00:20:11
Right, right, right, right.
► 00:20:12
Gotcha.
► 00:20:13
It's pathetic.
► 00:20:13
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
► 00:20:14
I mean, it's a reasonable...
► 00:20:16
I would say this.
► 00:20:18
If you just got a contract with Rumble, you can't overtly be like, yeah, YouTube is our main source of money, you know?
► 00:20:25
But it's even not, because I think they're demonetized and have been on YouTube.
► 00:20:29
Well, then burn it.
► 00:20:29
Because Steven Crowder's, you know...
► 00:20:32
I think part of it was him gay bashing that guy.
► 00:20:36
That sounds right.
► 00:20:37
Vox, Carlos Maza.
► 00:20:39
Any number of reasons would be enough.
► 00:20:40
There's a number of things that he's done that have been against TOS.
► 00:20:44
Yeah, yeah.
► 00:20:44
That makes sense.
► 00:20:46
So, yeah, that makes this really difficult to listen to.
► 00:20:50
Yeah.
► 00:20:50
But I decided, I want to listen to the YouTube version.
► 00:20:55
Take that, Rumble!
► 00:20:56
Bunch of assholes, fuck you!
► 00:20:58
I'm literally not going to give him money for this shit.
► 00:21:01
That's what he wants me to do.
► 00:21:02
Yeah, I'm going to YouTube.
► 00:21:04
So we get some headlines from the co-host, and you get a little bit of the flavor.
► 00:21:12
Megan Kelly actually goes to war with Charlize Theron.
► 00:21:16
I didn't realize she was still relevant.
► 00:21:18
Not Megan Kelly.
► 00:21:20
Of course she is, but Charlize.
► 00:21:21
That's one.
► 00:21:22
What?
► 00:21:23
Also, I don't know, Alex, if you heard this, but the Twitter's got a new CEO.
► 00:21:27
That's right.
► 00:21:28
I've got her name right here.
► 00:21:29
It's Linda Macaroni.
► 00:21:31
Macarena.
► 00:21:33
Macarena.
► 00:21:33
Do the Macarena?
► 00:21:34
Pecorino.
► 00:21:35
I don't know.
► 00:21:37
There's a WF connection there that I'm sure Alex is going to love to tell you.
► 00:21:40
This is going to be a fun show today, by the way.
► 00:21:42
So fun.
► 00:21:43
Wow.
► 00:21:44
Yes, I mean, Charlize Theron is in, like, the Fast and Furious movies.
► 00:21:47
I don't understand.
► 00:21:48
What are you talking about?
► 00:21:49
Some of the highest grossing films of the last few years.
► 00:21:52
Charlize Theron is infinitely more relevant to the culture than Megyn Kelly ever will be.
► 00:21:57
Yeah.
► 00:21:57
Right?
► 00:21:58
She said that she would fuck up people who were trying to mess with drag queens.
► 00:22:01
And so Megyn Kelly got mad about that and was like, why don't you fight me?
► 00:22:06
Yeah, yes!
► 00:22:08
Man, I really think...
► 00:22:10
A bunch of nonsense.
► 00:22:10
I think people would be surprised to see how quickly Charlize Theron could probably kick your ass.
► 00:22:15
She'd probably throw hands.
► 00:22:16
Yeah, I think she could.
► 00:22:18
Yeah, so you get this macaroni joke?
► 00:22:22
Yeah.
► 00:22:22
I mean, this is the vibe here.
► 00:22:24
This is a dumb show.
► 00:22:26
Yeah, I'm really...
► 00:22:27
So...
► 00:22:28
I'm getting the flavor that Alex is trying to tailor himself for this show.
► 00:22:34
Yeah, I think so.
► 00:22:36
He's not doing the Alex Jones show.
► 00:22:40
No.
► 00:22:40
He's allowing himself to be subsumed by this sophomoric, terrible, I guess, funny show?
► 00:22:46
There is a level of...
► 00:22:50
Bending the knee.
► 00:22:52
Right.
► 00:22:52
That Alex is doing, for sure.
► 00:22:54
For the time being.
► 00:22:55
Yes.
► 00:22:56
Yes.
► 00:22:57
If you think that that's something that Alex can maintain, you are mistaken.
► 00:23:02
A very short period of time.
► 00:23:04
You wonder why the people that Alex hangs out with, in terms of work...
► 00:23:11
Folks, are people like Owen Troyer and Harrison Smith.
► 00:23:14
It's because they're both dorks who are going nowhere.
► 00:23:17
Like, he could not have coexisted with someone like Paul Joseph Watson if he wasn't, like, someone who clearly...
► 00:23:24
Doesn't have that much of a weird ego about himself, and he lived in the UK.
► 00:23:30
Well, that was my thought.
► 00:23:31
Paul was super successful, but also was kind of like a...
► 00:23:36
He's in the UK!
► 00:23:37
Yeah.
► 00:23:37
Alex would have kicked his ass and fired him if he was in the US, for sure.
► 00:23:41
That was what I was thinking whenever it was like, Steven Crowder doesn't live outside of the United States.
► 00:23:46
If he did, this would be possible.
► 00:23:49
They can't coexist if they live this close to each other.
► 00:23:52
Yeah, definitely.
► 00:23:54
They just butt up against each other and turn into Charlize Theron and Megyn Kelly Part 2. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
► 00:24:01
So there's another headline, I guess, or video that they want to play.
► 00:24:07
It's about a guy who, I guess, wears diapers.
► 00:24:13
Sure.
► 00:24:15
This is just ridiculous.
► 00:24:18
Listen to what the guy is saying behind their mocking, because I think that that's important and something that they're missing the point about.
► 00:24:26
Gotcha.
► 00:24:26
All right, so Alex, look, I'm going to take us into the first little video that we're going to look at here.
► 00:24:30
I really want to get your thoughts, and I don't think you've even seen this.
► 00:24:33
He didn't see this one yet.
► 00:24:33
This works really well.
► 00:24:34
This is the state of our country, unfortunately, so here is a grown man who I'll let you decide what he identifies as.
► 00:24:42
Being an adult baby is kind of a complicated subject.
► 00:24:45
I got into it for two reasons.
► 00:24:47
The first was because I started letting the bed when I was 13, and the diapers were a way to keep it dry.
► 00:24:54
But I also got into it around the same time even more as a way to cope with the child abuse that was going on.
► 00:25:02
For me, with the diapers, it just kind of became that safeness.
► 00:25:07
And it's not sexual.
► 00:25:09
It's all about just the safeness of being a child again.
► 00:25:14
You know, Gerald, listen, you guys act nice, but you just snuck attack me with this.
► 00:25:19
You just showed that's actually me before I lost a couple pounds.
► 00:25:22
I don't, I mean, like, they're having some good joke fun and what have you, but, like, I don't understand how you could hear that and not think, like...
► 00:25:31
Okay, this is a guy who's describing a way that he coped with being a survivor of childhood abuse.
► 00:25:37
And, like, what's funny about this?
► 00:25:40
I don't know how you don't hear that and go and just empathize and be like, yeah, this is your trauma response.
► 00:25:49
Knowing nothing else about this person, just what they have presented here.
► 00:25:54
It's like, okay, he's not hurting anybody with this.
► 00:25:58
It's something that he clearly is in touch with the aspect of himself that is dealing with this trauma.
► 00:26:06
Yep.
► 00:26:06
And, you know, what's the problem?
► 00:26:09
Why are you going to mock this guy?
► 00:26:11
This seems so, like, cruel.
► 00:26:13
Yeah.
► 00:26:14
I don't...
► 00:26:14
I just don't...
► 00:26:16
It is so much like I've seen this play out over and over and over and over again with any kind of local news ass, we found a lifestyle that's different from what is considered societally normal, and then these assholes pick it up.
► 00:26:33
I remember the first time I saw a local news ass story about furries.
► 00:26:38
Like, oh, people are dressing up and everybody laughing.
► 00:26:41
Like, oh, that's so stupid.
► 00:26:42
Like, what are we doing here?
► 00:26:44
Who cares?
► 00:26:45
I mean, listen to the person, accept their trauma, their way of coping with it, and be part of it.
► 00:26:52
That's even what elevates the meanness of the response even further.
► 00:26:56
It's not just somebody who's like, I think it's fun to dress up like this or whatever.
► 00:27:02
There is an articulation of their path through this.
► 00:27:07
That there was a functional reason in terms of wetting the bed and then a dealing with this trauma that he had experienced.
► 00:27:16
For people who pretend to care so much about children and victimization of children, this is so ridiculously telling.
► 00:27:29
They're telling on themselves.
► 00:27:30
Yeah, absolutely.
► 00:27:31
They don't give a shit at all about this stuff.
► 00:27:33
They don't give a fuck about the pain.
► 00:27:35
They don't give a fuck about the people.
► 00:27:37
Nope.
► 00:27:37
They just want to use the emotions around that pain in order to direct hatred towards the people that they want hatred directed towards.
► 00:27:46
Generally speaking, the people who have experienced the pain that they're exploiting.
► 00:27:49
Sometimes.
► 00:27:50
Yep.
► 00:27:50
So Alex is really thrilled with the way that they have succeeded in getting people to rumble.
► 00:27:56
You guys are the first, kind of like they had that big race with railroads going to the Pacific.
► 00:28:00
You guys are the first, or the race to flight, or the race for the atomic bomb.
► 00:28:05
You guys are the first to actually do it, which means the viewers and listeners are the first by going to Rumble and by going to Mug Club.
► 00:28:12
This is revolutionary.
► 00:28:13
This is not just entertainment or fun or promoting freedom.
► 00:28:16
This is happening right now.
► 00:28:17
This is the bellwether example.
► 00:28:19
That's why you've seen all the attacks in the media against Stephen and his family and the crew, which is all complete crap, I can tell you, is because there's...
► 00:28:27
the right direction.
► 00:28:28
I'm just honored to be here.
► 00:28:29
So everybody should go to Mug Club.
► 00:28:30
Become a subscriber.
► 00:28:31
Everybody should go to Rumble.
► 00:28:32
And tell everybody you know, go to Rumble right now and watch us on Rumble.
► 00:28:35
You have to watch on Rumble because we won't be on YouTube for very long, but we want to see that thing go down.
► 00:28:39
There is going to be a celebration here when that Rumble number is way up here and that YouTube number is literally zero.
► 00:28:46
There's nothing revolutionary about being a popular person who goes to a different platform because you're not welcome anywhere else.
► 00:28:54
And there's nothing revolutionary about his mug club nonsense.
► 00:28:57
It's just a subscriber service.
► 00:28:59
Like, The Blaze has a lot of their shit behind a paywall.
► 00:29:02
Yeah.
► 00:29:03
Like, people do this.
► 00:29:04
Yeah.
► 00:29:04
You're not reinventing the wheel here.
► 00:29:07
Oh, no.
► 00:29:07
I know when I'm getting a late night pitch.
► 00:29:11
From somebody, we're going to have to put a clock on this.
► 00:29:13
These knives are so good.
► 00:29:14
And I'll tell you what, they're too sharp.
► 00:29:16
And that's why they don't sell them in stores.
► 00:29:17
And you need sharp knives.
► 00:29:19
You need these sharp knives.
► 00:29:20
What Alex is pitching is how proud he is of them.
► 00:29:23
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
► 00:29:24
I'm on board.
► 00:29:24
But the thing is, the success of getting people to rumble, I do think a large part of it is because they have made this unwatchable.
► 00:29:32
But we wanted to do something bigger than just go and do a show somewhere.
► 00:29:35
We wanted to change the landscape of America.
► 00:29:37
And that's what Steve was saying months ago about...
► 00:29:39
Why do conservatives create new systems that act just like the establishment?
► 00:29:42
It needs to be Wild Wild West.
► 00:29:43
Yeah, we don't want to...
► 00:29:44
...
► 00:30:09
White people, that's not divisive at all.
► 00:30:12
Stand up against the poison of white supremacy as I did my inaugural address.
► 00:30:18
Is the implication there that all that time Alex was saying something that's not allowed on YouTube?
► 00:30:24
I don't know, but this is the first time I've enjoyed Steven Crowder's show.
► 00:30:28
I'll tell you that right now!
► 00:30:29
This is absurd.
► 00:30:31
If you're trying to watch this on YouTube, it's so funny.
► 00:30:37
I can't stress enough that the presentation is These things are here because YouTube won't let us talk about the things that we want to talk about.
► 00:30:46
Do you still see them, like, moving their mouths?
► 00:30:49
No.
► 00:30:49
You get a cut to, like, let's all go to the lobby?
► 00:30:51
Yes.
► 00:30:52
That's great.
► 00:30:53
That makes this show finally funny!
► 00:30:55
Why?
► 00:30:55
Because there's a real...
► 00:30:57
I mean, one, because they're doing it for the wrong reason, which is hilarious.
► 00:31:01
But it's a self-serving reason.
► 00:31:03
Totally.
► 00:31:04
The reason is sort of brand...
► 00:31:07
It's branding-based.
► 00:31:09
Right, right.
► 00:31:10
Pointless and stupid, which makes it funny.
► 00:31:12
So what you see on the screen is a shot of sort of blurry Stephen Crowder's neon in the background, a little fire, and a mug that says Louder with Crowder.
► 00:31:25
And it says, this show is not safe for YouTube.
► 00:31:28
We're still live on Rumble.
► 00:31:30
Go there now.
► 00:31:31
Oh my god.
► 00:31:32
Yeah, so the implication is almost that they've had to hit the...
► 00:31:37
The button.
► 00:31:38
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
► 00:31:38
The five-second red button.
► 00:31:40
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
► 00:31:41
Uh-oh, Janet Jackson all over again.
► 00:31:43
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
► 00:31:44
It's so dope.
► 00:31:45
It is, but they're not funny.
► 00:31:48
They're not interesting.
► 00:31:49
No.
► 00:31:49
They're not sharing anything.
► 00:31:51
So it's almost an avant-garde, like, French play.
► 00:31:56
This is Waiting for Godot.
► 00:32:02
Yeah, I think so.
► 00:32:03
I think so.
► 00:32:04
I don't remember where it is, and I think it's maybe gone now, but like...
► 00:32:09
Oh, yeah, here it is.
► 00:32:12
Okay, so in the YouTube comments, I'm laughing at the fact that Alex was censored within three seconds.
► 00:32:17
I'm going over to rumble.
► 00:32:19
Oh, my God.
► 00:32:20
Plant.
► 00:32:21
Plant!
► 00:32:22
Well, even if it is, I hope it's a plan.
► 00:32:26
I hope it's a plan, because if someone can't see what they're doing...
► 00:32:30
You got hoodwinked, boy!
► 00:32:31
It's unlistenable.
► 00:32:33
Just last week, the Attorney General came out with a new rule saying no crime statistics can be used by the FBI.
► 00:32:41
Well, how do you put agents in areas if you don't know where the crime...
► 00:32:44
It's like if you're fishing, you've got sonar to see where the fish are.
► 00:32:48
So they're saying, oh, well, we're not even going to look at where crime's at.
► 00:32:56
I mean, you've got to change up the music.
► 00:33:00
No, you don't.
► 00:33:01
You're just on hold.
► 00:33:02
I would have gone with some Stan Getz.
► 00:33:04
No, they don't want to pay anything.
► 00:33:06
It's stock elevator music.
► 00:33:09
Yeah.
► 00:33:10
So one thing that you can really tell is that it seems like Alex may be also having a little apple juice.
► 00:33:16
He's having a good time.
► 00:33:17
No, drinking.
► 00:33:18
Yes.
► 00:33:18
Maybe drinking a little.
► 00:33:21
This is before his show?
► 00:33:23
Yeah.
► 00:33:23
Just double checking.
► 00:33:27
Wow, I'm going to have me some whiskey right now.
► 00:33:28
Oh, boy.
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Oh, gosh.
► 00:33:29
This is actually happening.
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That's why you needed the extension for your headset.
► 00:33:32
I...
► 00:33:32
I...
► 00:33:32
This is a...
► 00:33:58
Are they going to play the girl from Ipanema next?
► 00:34:00
What is happening?
► 00:34:02
Now hold on.
► 00:34:04
Hi, my name is Alex Jones.
► 00:34:06
My name is Yosemite.
► 00:34:08
I'm going to stop.
► 00:34:11
Boo!
► 00:34:11
No, no, no, you're fine.
► 00:34:13
You said something that I thought was interesting, right?
► 00:34:15
So the FBI is not allowed to use statistics anymore.
► 00:34:17
By the way, make a line on that.
► 00:34:18
Somebody bring a Sharpie in.
► 00:34:20
We're making a line so Alex can track his consumption.
► 00:34:23
Folks, everybody knows I'm fake.
► 00:34:25
This is not real whiskey.
► 00:34:26
This is sugar water.
► 00:34:28
It's real.
► 00:34:29
It's real.
► 00:34:29
No, it's fake.
► 00:34:30
I never drink.
► 00:34:31
Can we gaff the label, too?
► 00:34:33
Gotta gaff that label.
► 00:34:36
Can't have brand names.
► 00:34:38
I don't like feeling...
► 00:34:39
So yeah, he has a big bottle of wild turkey.
► 00:34:41
Yeah, I don't like feeling bad for the adult...
► 00:34:45
Monster who turned into the kid who eats worms for people's approval.
► 00:34:50
Because that's the vibe I'm getting from this little...
► 00:34:53
Oh, yeah.
► 00:34:54
No, no, no.
► 00:34:54
Do it.
► 00:34:54
Do it, man.
► 00:34:55
No, no.
► 00:34:56
Do it.
► 00:34:56
Do it.
► 00:34:57
I don't know if I want to...
► 00:34:59
No, do it.
► 00:34:59
You're going to love it.
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All right.
► 00:35:00
I want to be friends.
► 00:35:02
Okay.
► 00:35:03
I think that...
► 00:35:05
You're underestimating how much Alex wants to eat worms.
► 00:35:08
That's fair.
► 00:35:09
That's a fair point.
► 00:35:10
That is a fair point.
► 00:35:11
I think he maybe will go through some difficulties if he doesn't eat worms early enough in the day.
► 00:35:19
Oh, but he eats so many goddamn worms.
► 00:35:20
Yeah, he totally doesn't drink, though.
► 00:35:22
No, no, no.
► 00:35:23
So, I just thought this clip was stupid.
► 00:35:27
It's time for spinach, guys.
► 00:35:29
This is not the ice cream hour where we're telling you, like, I'm strong to the finish because I eat the spinach.
► 00:35:35
So real quick, the co-host is talking about how, like, you know, all the things that the left want, it's all like, oh, ice cream, you know, but sometimes you need some good hard spinach, some disappointing stuff.
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Hey, what are you going to do?
► 00:35:48
Can't argue with that.
► 00:35:49
Sure.
► 00:35:51
I'm Steven Crowder, the sailor man.
► 00:35:54
Are you trying to work that in?
► 00:35:55
Well, look, somebody else who ate their spinach, Megyn Kelly came to play in this next story with Charlize Theron.
► 00:36:03
By the way, I'm dating Megyn Kelly.
► 00:36:05
Are you really?
► 00:36:06
Yeah.
► 00:36:09
It's a joke, folks.
► 00:36:10
I don't know that that's 100% true, Alex.
► 00:36:12
I think that's satire.
► 00:36:14
She's a babe.
► 00:36:16
Joke alert.
► 00:36:18
Do we have to do that with you?
► 00:36:20
We do.
► 00:36:21
You have a dry sense of humor, Alex.
► 00:36:22
I love it.
► 00:36:23
I think he has a wet sense of humor in that he's drunk.
► 00:36:26
Yeah.
► 00:36:26
He's a drunk man.
► 00:36:28
Even if he's not drunk, you kind of got to be drunk to think this shit's funny.
► 00:36:31
Yikes.
► 00:36:32
Yeah.
► 00:36:33
Opposite of wet.
► 00:36:35
I mean, I don't think I could listen to this in a dry county.
► 00:36:38
I'll say that right now.
► 00:36:40
Now, I'm Dating Megan Kelly has been a joke that he's been telling at least for the last five years.
► 00:36:47
I was going to say, yeah, it's been a long time.
► 00:36:50
Well, the secret of 2017 had to do with Megan Kelly.
► 00:36:53
And that was around when she came and...
► 00:36:56
Did that interview with him.
► 00:36:58
Did the interview, yep.
► 00:36:58
That he had all the secret tapes of that he was going to release.
► 00:37:01
He didn't because his sister called him and disrupted the recording.
► 00:37:04
Hey, I mean, what are you going to do?
► 00:37:05
His sister called him!
► 00:37:06
But then he still pretended that he had all those tapes for quite a while.
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For quite some time.
► 00:37:11
And then...
► 00:37:11
Then the truth came out.
► 00:37:13
Yeah.
► 00:37:14
Oh, boy.
► 00:37:14
And then he started doing that joke, and I guess it's still funny.
► 00:37:17
I mean, apparently...
► 00:37:18
It's still good.
► 00:37:19
Apparently...
► 00:37:19
Was any of your 80s trivia night...
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About Michael Myers' early career and how Wayne's world was going to last forever.
► 00:37:31
Oh, I thought you meant Michael Myers the murderer.
► 00:37:33
No.
► 00:37:33
His early murders.
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Nope.
► 00:37:38
Nope.
► 00:37:38
So, look, they just censor a lot.
► 00:37:40
Uh-huh.
► 00:37:43
I had a crew member go to two CVS's.
► 00:37:46
One of them in Austin has it.
► 00:37:47
And we're going to be showing that later today.
► 00:37:49
Unbelievable.
► 00:37:49
So I saw the video and I was like, wait a minute.
► 00:37:53
I saw it, but I was busy and had to go.
► 00:37:55
I was like, why are...
► 00:37:56
It was so surreal.
► 00:37:57
There's a bunch of sex toys, vibrators, dildos, and it's a kid's aisle.
► 00:38:01
What did he say in that stretch of time that was censored, but they kept vibrators and dildos in?
► 00:38:07
Yeah, I mean...
► 00:38:07
Ridiculous.
► 00:38:08
It was censored for like half a second.
► 00:38:10
Right, right.
► 00:38:11
No, that's absurd.
► 00:38:12
Now they're just fucking with you.
► 00:38:13
I almost wonder, because I don't watch enough of his dumb show, so I almost wonder if that in and of itself is a joke.
► 00:38:21
That they constantly censor.
► 00:38:24
That they censor stuff that doesn't need to be censored in a way that's...
► 00:38:27
Maybe.
► 00:38:29
I wonder if it is, but at least that YouTube commenter certainly didn't feel so.
► 00:38:34
And the way it's presented definitely is...
► 00:38:38
The implication is that it's not a joke.
► 00:38:40
And it is specifically Alex, right?
► 00:38:44
No?
► 00:38:45
I think they do that, but maybe less.
► 00:38:47
Maybe not as frequently on other shows.
► 00:38:50
I've seen...
► 00:38:51
A couple episodes of Crowder, but definitely the last one that I watched did not have this much.
► 00:38:58
Right, right, right, right.
► 00:38:59
And I think that might be just like a, maybe a thing, because okay, we got Alex here, of course they're going to censor.
► 00:39:04
Right, right, right.
► 00:39:05
But if every episode is like this, then it is just a trying to tank the ship and go to Rumble.
► 00:39:11
Yeah, they're just fucking with people.
► 00:39:12
Well, I mean, what would you do if you wanted to try and force migrate your audience?
► 00:39:16
Yeah.
► 00:39:16
Like a lot of people would rather watch shit on YouTube, because they're used to it.
► 00:39:21
It's a better platform in general.
► 00:39:23
Yeah.
► 00:39:24
There's more functionality to it.
► 00:39:26
And you can't just stop broadcasting on YouTube without losing all of the people who aren't going to make that second click.
► 00:39:35
Right.
► 00:39:35
You have to get them watching the show, repeat that you have to leave YouTube over and over and over again.
► 00:39:41
And make the experience of watching it on YouTube unpleasant.
► 00:39:44
Exactly.
► 00:39:44
And then hopefully you'll get some migration along that line.
► 00:39:47
Yeah, apparently they have a psychologist online.
► 00:39:49
I mean, it's pretty simple, I guess.
► 00:39:53
So yeah, they have a mentality, I guess, at Louder with Crowder.
► 00:39:58
Sure.
► 00:39:58
As expressed by the co-host slash CEO.
► 00:40:02
And that is that they hold people's feet to the fire, right?
► 00:40:05
In what sense?
► 00:40:07
Elon Musk doing great things for free speech.
► 00:40:10
And how so?
► 00:40:11
But he also is hiring somebody who's connected to the World Economic Forum to be the CEO of Twitter.
► 00:40:16
So then you...
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Boo.
► 00:40:18
But he does good things, but also he does bad things.
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And they are not going to fall into the trap of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
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Yes.
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Yes.
► 00:40:27
That is how hero worship works.
► 00:40:29
No, no, no.
► 00:40:30
There are no heroes.
► 00:40:30
Oh, no.
► 00:40:31
That sounds right.
► 00:40:31
Donald Trump said to Mike Pence at the meeting, well, Mike, I think we should take the guns first and then we'll figure out the mental health issue later.
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We're like, no, no, no.
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No, no, no.
► 00:40:38
You don't take guns first.
► 00:40:39
Guns first is not the way that you handle Second Amendment issues.
► 00:40:42
And we held Trump's feet to the fire.
► 00:40:44
When he came out and basically said that he was laughing at some of the people who lost in the midterms, we were like, that doesn't seem like that's the most helpful thing.
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No, that's the thing.
► 00:40:51
Trump is kind of Asperger-ish.
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I think Trump is autistic.
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We'll say, well, he's super smart.
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He's super smart.
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Yeah, he's super smart in ways.
► 00:40:59
I think he means well for us.
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But he's like, well, just take the mentally ill guns.
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It's simple.
► 00:41:04
Oh, right, exactly.
► 00:41:04
But you can't, because they'll define everybody as mentally ill.
► 00:41:07
Right, exactly.
► 00:41:07
And so we hold his feet to the fire, just like we're going to hold Elon's.
► 00:41:10
Exactly.
► 00:41:11
When Musk does good, we're going to say good job.
► 00:41:13
Exactly.
► 00:41:13
When he does bad, we're going to cry foul.
► 00:41:14
Nobody's a messiah.
► 00:41:15
There is no messiah figure that we should be looking for on the right.
► 00:41:18
We should never hope for that person because they don't exist.
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And if they do exist, they're going to exist as a messiah for a little while, and then the next guy, or maybe the next year for that same guy, is going to be bad.
► 00:41:27
So that's never how we operate.
► 00:41:28
Smash cut to Alex.
► 00:41:30
I mean, like...
► 00:41:31
Doing all kinds of hero shit about Trump.
► 00:41:35
I have listened to these people deify a sitting asshole for so long.
► 00:41:43
Quite a bit.
► 00:41:43
And the other thing, too...
► 00:41:45
I was listening to that.
► 00:41:46
I was thinking, like, you know, you don't do this.
► 00:41:48
But I think that if you did, you know, that's a good way to, like, approach these public figures.
► 00:41:55
Sure.
► 00:41:55
You know, recognizing that people aren't all good or all bad.
► 00:41:58
Sure.
► 00:41:59
And that, like, yeah, there are criticizable acts even among people that you like, and there are laudable acts among people you hate.
► 00:42:06
Sure.
► 00:42:06
That's fine.
► 00:42:07
Why don't you do that with anybody on the left?
► 00:42:09
Because everybody on the left is just all evil.
► 00:42:12
Yeah, they're all evil.
► 00:42:13
There's never something that AOC does that they're like, you know what?
► 00:42:17
We're going to hold her feet to the fire when she does bad, but also we can't help but say this is a good thing.
► 00:42:23
Has Soros ever done anything that was commendable?
► 00:42:28
No.
► 00:42:28
Never.
► 00:42:29
They are all evil when they're on the other side.
► 00:42:33
Well, they're not people, they're demons.
► 00:42:34
Right.
► 00:42:35
But that's not the way that this branding goes.
► 00:42:39
No, no, no, no.
► 00:42:40
This we look at things nuanced.
► 00:42:43
There's good and bad.
► 00:42:44
There's no Messiah coming on the right.
► 00:42:47
Okay, fine.
► 00:42:48
There's no Antichrist on the left either, ding dong.
► 00:42:50
No, no, no.
► 00:42:53
Right.
► 00:42:53
End of sentence.
► 00:42:54
It doesn't, yeah.
► 00:42:56
I mean, until...
► 00:42:57
You don't hold anybody's feet to the fire unless there are consequences for the things that you say are bad.
► 00:43:03
I mean, consequences are not, hey, you did that bad, but anything else that you do, and including this, I'm going to let pass without anything other than saying a tut tut.
► 00:43:14
Right, and when you hold feet to the fire, there should be a fire instead of an imaginary fire.
► 00:43:19
You need a fire there.
► 00:43:20
Yeah.
► 00:43:20
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
► 00:43:21
But there's not.
► 00:43:23
No.
► 00:43:23
So there is this subservience in Alex a little bit, and that is going along with the way that the co-host wants to run the show and present the topics.
► 00:43:36
Alex is kind of not like a second wheel, but he's along for it.
► 00:43:41
Right, right, right.
► 00:43:42
It's his training.
► 00:43:43
It's his first time on the job.
► 00:43:45
Yeah, absolutely.
► 00:43:46
He's shadowing.
► 00:43:46
And so I didn't think that was too weird, but this blew my mind.
► 00:43:51
All right.
► 00:43:52
Alex did a pre-prepared bit.
► 00:43:55
Yeah, look at all those women and children.
► 00:43:58
That seemed like a room full of military-aged males to me.
► 00:44:01
Yes.
► 00:44:02
Let's talk to one of our correspondents at the border right now.
► 00:44:05
Yeah, absolutely.
► 00:44:06
All right, we've got Miguel on the line.
► 00:44:08
Thanks for taking some time, Miguel.
► 00:44:10
Can you give us some insight on what it's like at the border right now?
► 00:44:15
No, no.
► 00:44:16
I don't speak Spanish.
► 00:44:17
I mean, I know a little Brevarian enough to get around town at least.
► 00:44:20
But that's besides the point.
► 00:44:22
Though I would really like to know what it's like down there right now.
► 00:44:26
Habla Espanol?
► 00:44:28
No, I told you I don't speak Spanish.
► 00:44:31
Solamente English.
► 00:44:33
Habla Espanol?
► 00:44:34
For the love of God, I said I don't speak.
► 00:44:37
How the hell did you get...
► 00:44:39
Anyways, that's what I really like to know.
► 00:44:42
How the hell did you get through to the producer and to the pre-interview screening and jump through all the hoops to get on here?
► 00:44:49
How?
► 00:44:50
Tell me.
► 00:44:51
I really like to know now!
► 00:44:55
What the f***?
► 00:44:59
Wow.
► 00:44:59
Excuse me, guys.
► 00:45:01
Wow.
► 00:45:02
That one minute...
► 00:45:04
Pre-scripted bits that they recorded in advance is more preparation than Alex does for his own show.
► 00:45:11
Yeah, 100%.
► 00:45:11
That's a shocking level of work they got out of him.
► 00:45:14
That is a full minute.
► 00:45:16
A full minute where he had to read lines.
► 00:45:19
Yes.
► 00:45:20
He couldn't...
► 00:45:20
Dude, no, no.
► 00:45:21
That delivery was so organic.
► 00:45:23
Oh, so organic.
► 00:45:25
Those were his words.
► 00:45:27
You know, sometimes when a writer gives you something, you have to be like, hey, listen, I gotta make this mine.
► 00:45:32
I think your words are good, but I gotta add my spin on it.
► 00:45:35
Alex was true to the page.
► 00:45:38
Wow.
► 00:45:40
Wowzers.
► 00:45:40
If I were maybe the producer who was doing this bit...
► 00:45:44
I might be like, Alex, let's try it one more time.
► 00:45:46
I mean...
► 00:45:46
A little more natural.
► 00:45:48
Anything...
► 00:45:48
You're getting out...
► 00:45:49
The person on the phone who just says habla espanol is running circles around you.
► 00:45:53
Yeah, I know.
► 00:45:53
In terms of acting.
► 00:45:54
Yeah.
► 00:45:55
Get it together, man.
► 00:45:56
Yeah, I was...
► 00:45:56
Honestly, the thing that surprised me the most was that Alex wasn't also providing a very racist accent.
► 00:46:04
Yeah.
► 00:46:05
I was shocked.
► 00:46:06
I was waiting for fentanyl to come out.
► 00:46:09
I was shocked.
► 00:46:11
Yeah, I wouldn't be too surprised.
► 00:46:12
No, that's what blew me away.
► 00:46:14
I guess I wasn't thinking about that because I was too surprised that he did something.
► 00:46:20
Yeah.
► 00:46:20
Like that, I can't...
► 00:46:23
Wow.
► 00:46:24
I mean...
► 00:46:25
Wow.
► 00:46:26
That's degrading.
► 00:46:27
There's just so many reasons that that bit doesn't work that are...
► 00:46:32
Pure and simple writing challenges that are very easy to punch up.
► 00:46:37
If you're going to have the pause on the final habla espanol, you don't say habla espanol.
► 00:46:43
That's when he comes with...
► 00:46:44
Parlez-vous français?
► 00:46:45
Exactly.
► 00:46:46
Absolutely.
► 00:46:47
He comes with the twist.
► 00:46:49
You've got to zag whenever people think you're going to zig.
► 00:46:52
And they just kept going with the same bit.
► 00:46:54
The bit was, I mean, ostensibly, the bit that they presented is Alex getting angry.
► 00:46:59
That is not a bit!
► 00:47:01
No, it's kind of exactly what would happen, probably.
► 00:47:04
Exactly!
► 00:47:05
But also, if you wanted to make this more of a real bit, you would have the person say something other than habla espanol, because basically after the first time he says it, you get the answer.
► 00:47:17
That person doesn't speak Spanish, so maybe you'd say something else in Spanish.
► 00:47:22
It's very inorganic, and then Alex's line deliveries were wooden.
► 00:47:26
Brutal.
► 00:47:27
Brutal.
► 00:47:27
Yeah.
► 00:47:28
But he did it!
► 00:47:29
For a guy famous for yelling, doesn't know how to get his way to that spirit in the page.
► 00:47:36
But he was one of the most sought-after voice actors until Obama ruined his career.
► 00:47:41
Oh man, not just that, but Guardians of the Galaxy?
► 00:47:44
Yeah, he's gonna be Star-Lord.
► 00:47:45
He's gonna be Star-Lord!
► 00:47:46
With those kind of line reads!
► 00:47:48
I can imagine!
► 00:47:48
I want to watch the audition tape now!
► 00:47:51
That's what I want more than anything else!
► 00:47:52
Come over here, Rocket Raccoon!
► 00:47:59
Drax, it's weird you say obvious things.
► 00:48:02
Are you, Groot?
► 00:48:08
I can't pronounce Gamera.
► 00:48:11
Something or other about Yondu.
► 00:48:15
See, that's a five-joke bit.
► 00:48:17
That's the way it works.
► 00:48:18
So Alex has some video that he's brought along also for them to enjoy, and I think this one's cheating.
► 00:48:26
And so one of, this is actually one of our security guys, is an Army veteran, a great patriot.
► 00:48:31
And he was in the Texas National Guard after he did his service in Iraq and Afghanistan.
► 00:48:35
So the full clip's in band-out video.
► 00:48:38
But one of our reporters also caught a veteran confronting Texas National Guardsman for ignoring Governor Abbott.
► 00:48:44
We'll play the clip and I'll break down why this is so important.
► 00:48:50
Your employee didn't capture a veteran confronting.
► 00:48:53
One of your security guards confronting the Border Patrol.
► 00:48:57
Yeah.
► 00:48:58
You're describing the security guard and just pretending it's the veteran who's confronted.
► 00:49:06
It's ridiculous.
► 00:49:07
Like he wouldn't have been there if he weren't the security guard.
► 00:49:10
If he wasn't on payroll.
► 00:49:10
Yeah, exactly.
► 00:49:11
One of our employees confronts a guy I told to confront Border Patrol.
► 00:49:16
Who happens to be a veteran.
► 00:49:17
Yes.
► 00:49:18
And might have been Blackwater.
► 00:49:19
Might have been a Blackwater veteran.
► 00:49:21
Listen, I chose a guy who committed war crimes because that's what War Hero is.
► 00:49:27
Actually, I'm not sure.
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I know that at least some of his security was Blackwater, but I'm not sure if this specific one was.
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So I don't want to make too broad a statement.
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Who cares?
► 00:49:36
So one of the things that I've noticed when I've watched Stephen Crowder before is this obsession with saying that everything is documented.
► 00:49:46
All the stuff that he talks about, they've got all the sources, everything is documented, and then they just let Alex just make shit up.
► 00:49:54
Trump's grand total for border encounters was only 2.4 million.
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Over four years, right?
► 00:49:59
And just over two years into his presidency, 5 million.
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And remember, the majority are never even being encountered.
► 00:50:05
So multiply that number by what, 5?
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25 million.
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Border Patrol told us it's worse.
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We were told by senior people, they said last year 8 million came across Texas alone.
► 00:50:17
Dang.
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8 million.
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Crazy.
► 00:50:19
That's insane.
► 00:50:20
So many.
► 00:50:20
By the numbers they're giving us right now, it's about, I don't know, 1.4, 1.5 million.
► 00:50:27
Oh, so completely different numbers than what Alex just made up?
► 00:50:29
By the way, strike me out if I'm lying.
► 00:50:32
I have been in meetings with, there's only one layer under my org.
► 00:50:35
So I've been in Zoom meetings with...
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Like, federal officials you see on TV, but off record.
► 00:50:42
And, like, FBI and federal marshals, and they're like, here's the documents, and here's our court documents, and no one will pick it up.
► 00:50:49
We gave it to Fox.
► 00:50:50
We come to you now, son.
► 00:50:54
That's embarrassing.
► 00:50:56
Yeah.
► 00:50:56
Like, you can't allow Alex to just make up multipliers to add to things and then you just go along with it.
► 00:51:04
If those are your instincts in studio, then I don't know if I trust how interested in documentation you are.
► 00:51:11
This is trash.
► 00:51:13
Trash work.
► 00:51:14
Yeah, there's five million in two years.
► 00:51:16
Well, they're obviously lying about that.
► 00:51:18
You gotta multiply that by a factor of five.
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And that puts you at 25 million.
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And 25 million seems low.
► 00:51:24
That's only 10% of the current population.
► 00:51:27
You gotta consider that's probably only a third.
► 00:51:29
You gotta multiply that by...
► 00:51:30
75 million.
► 00:51:31
Yeah, absolutely.
► 00:51:31
I would say at this point, most of the country is illegal.
► 00:51:34
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
► 00:51:36
There's no other conclusion to come to.
► 00:51:37
Whoa!
► 00:51:38
Actually, we're going to get to some thoughts about that later, a little bit that I had, that maybe we are all illegal.
► 00:51:44
What?
► 00:51:44
No!
► 00:51:45
If anybody is illegal, then maybe almost everybody is.
► 00:51:48
Yeah, no, obviously.
► 00:51:48
So I kind of was wrestling with that a little bit for reasons that will become clear once we get to segment polka dot.
► 00:51:55
Oh, no.
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Oh, God.
► 00:51:57
So we have one last clip here of Stephen's show, and...
► 00:52:01
This is Alex telling a version of his story where he went to the border and got mad at somebody who was trying to drive away from a Catholic charity.
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Do you remember that?
► 00:52:11
Yes, I do.
► 00:52:11
Yeah, I recall that.
► 00:52:13
Seatbelt snitch.
► 00:52:13
Yep, yep, yep.
► 00:52:14
And so here's the version of Alex tells on the show.
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It's just, this story has grown.
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Is it not about seatbelts?
► 00:52:20
We were there like two years ago.
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And they're loading like four or five kids in a hatchback of a car.
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And there's nobody even with them, not their moms.
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And there's a taxi driver.
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We're talking like four, five, six, seven-year-old kids.
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And I go over and I go, that's illegal having the car.
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So I stop the car.
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The police come.
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He doesn't have a seatbelt.
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He doesn't have a seatbelt.
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And then a dude comes out of the migrant center, this big, tall, white, crazy-looking dude who I'd cast for really bad stuff in a movie.
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And he goes, I'm here to teach the way of the Lord.
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I'm here to get the little girls.
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I'm sorry?
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And we had an undercover cop inside there.
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I'm sorry?
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And she came out and said, no, the dude's in there being promised that tonight he's going to load six kids.
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Wow.
► 00:53:01
This has grown, and now is a story out of...
► 00:53:07
Season one of True Detective or something?
► 00:53:09
Yeah, that's fucking CSI.
► 00:53:13
Jesus Christ.
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I'm going to teach them the way of the Lord.
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I'm really going to go back and try and put myself in the headspace.
► 00:53:20
If I recall correctly...
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They don't have a seatbelt.
► 00:53:22
He was mad that they were not wearing seatbelts because he could not say that anything else was happening conclusively.
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It was just that he could say concretely, Sir...
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There is no seatbelt on this person.
► 00:53:36
That was the most specific infraction I remember there being.
► 00:53:41
Yeah, this is a little bit like if your grandpa caught a medium-sized trout.
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It was a solid trout.
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It was enjoyable.
► 00:53:48
Everybody had some to eat.
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I caught a shark.
► 00:53:50
And then two years later was like, yeah, so I made love to a mermaid.
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And she gave me a bounty of 7,000 foot long feet.
► 00:54:00
Yeah.
► 00:54:01
Foot long feet?
► 00:54:01
Foot long feet.
► 00:54:02
Okay.
► 00:54:04
So, yeah, I think you get a flavor of what Alex on Steven Crowder is like.
► 00:54:10
Yeah, I have a few.
► 00:54:12
Here's the questions that I had whenever it was like, why is he doing this?
► 00:54:18
So I've got first...
► 00:54:20
Equipment.
► 00:54:20
Is he really just...
► 00:54:22
If he's broadcasting his show from Steven Crowder's shit, it sounds better than what he's doing with his place.
► 00:54:27
Well, no.
► 00:54:28
I mean, probably it's more of a competent team.
► 00:54:31
But Alex only does his own show for the first two hours, and then Owen does the third hour.
► 00:54:37
So, like, the equipment's still fine, I'm sure.
► 00:54:40
No, I mean, just audio quality.
► 00:54:42
Like, when we listen to Stripes, I suspect...
► 00:54:47
It will be slightly...
► 00:54:50
I don't remember which is which.
► 00:54:52
Yeah, I think it's polka dot.
► 00:54:53
But yeah, I think the audio is better.
► 00:54:56
Maybe.
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If it is, I don't think it's that big of a deciding factor.
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Fair point.
► 00:55:00
And you have to consider that a lot of the audio that we end up using is through the GCN feed.
► 00:55:05
Right.
► 00:55:05
So some of that may be just the way the sound goes out to radio stations as opposed to the sound on Alex's own website.
► 00:55:15
That might be better.
► 00:55:16
That's fair.
► 00:55:17
Because it's direct.
► 00:55:18
Right.
► 00:55:18
I didn't consider that.
► 00:55:19
The next thought I have, money he can hide.
► 00:55:22
Is there some backwards-ass deal where he can get something that is not on the books?
► 00:55:29
That is fucking...
► 00:55:30
Well, yeah, I mean, there would be a...
► 00:55:32
It would be outside of InfoWars if he were to have a show on Steven Crowder's network or something like that.
► 00:55:40
Because in the Mug Club, they have, like, a Nick DiPaolo has a show or something, and, like...
► 00:55:44
So, like, there is...
► 00:55:46
How far the mighty have fallen.
► 00:55:48
Mighty?
► 00:55:49
There is a conceivable world where you could see...
► 00:55:54
Alex having a show on Crowder in order to get some kind of a revenue.
► 00:55:57
But I don't think it would be that much.
► 00:55:59
Right.
► 00:56:00
You'd be required to hide money.
► 00:56:03
Yeah.
► 00:56:04
or like launder something through there in order to make that a profitable venture.
► 00:56:10
He'd make something, but I don't think it would be Yeah.
► 00:56:12
And then, I mean, the only other explanation I have is to try and take over as much of an audience as he can get.
► 00:56:19
That's more what I think.
► 00:56:21
Because Steven has a much bigger audience.
► 00:56:23
Sure.
► 00:56:24
In terms of, certainly, numbers that you can see.
► 00:56:26
Right.
► 00:56:27
And he also has an audience that's clearly impressionable, if they think this shit's funny.
► 00:56:31
Demographic is much younger than...
► 00:56:32
Much younger.
► 00:56:33
Yep.
► 00:56:34
And...
► 00:56:35
And I could see that.
► 00:56:37
And, see, I think that people who are a little bit older recognize some of the more toxic things about Alex.
► 00:56:45
Yeah, that's true.
► 00:56:45
Some people who are adults in the time of the tea party and stuff and lived through a lot of that maybe have more of an understanding of Alex and wouldn't be as susceptible to him.
► 00:56:58
Yeah.
► 00:56:59
Whereas, you know...
► 00:57:00
Impressionable youths.
► 00:57:01
That's where you gotta go.
► 00:57:02
Yeah, there's a lot of things that he says that seem edgy and verboten and what have you, and maybe you think that that's a cool thing to be drawn to.
► 00:57:10
So yeah, I think the most likely explanation is that Alex sees a fertile ground of people that he could take.
► 00:57:19
And I don't think for a second that he means what he's saying about Rumble, because InfoWars has a Rumble channel and they don't really use it.
► 00:57:26
They barely use it at all.
► 00:57:28
He doesn't give a shit.
► 00:57:28
Yeah, they, like...
► 00:57:31
If he cared really about that platform being something that was like the space race or something, he would be far more invested in it.
► 00:57:41
Their channel is not well used.
► 00:57:43
Yeah, there's no way he's saying all of that and he's like, oh, I would totally use Rumble if...
► 00:57:48
Band.video weren't so fucking successful, you know?
► 00:57:52
I think maybe that is part of it, though, too, is that he's already pot-committed with Band.video.
► 00:57:58
Yeah, that's definitely true.
► 00:57:59
So, yeah, I think there is mostly a desire to lure whatever audience over you can, and I think that's part of why he plays along with the skit, plays along with everything that's going on.
► 00:58:15
Sure.
► 00:58:16
You want to fit in.
► 00:58:18
Yeah, he's trying to play the game.
► 00:58:19
If this is what the young people like, you go to where the young people like to be.
► 00:58:23
If it's unfortunate that they like Steven Crowder...
► 00:58:26
I forgot to mention, Alex is wearing a backwards hat.
► 00:58:29
He's not.
► 00:58:30
Okay, thank God.
► 00:58:32
I don't know if I can handle that.
► 00:58:34
I don't know if I can handle the Dungeons and Dragons fucking we're gonna be super cool rebrand.
► 00:58:40
I can't handle that.
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Hey, I'm Xander Jones.
► 00:58:42
I'm 23 years old.
► 00:58:45
I think I can't do it.
► 00:58:46
I just can't do it.
► 00:58:47
Fellow youths.
► 00:58:48
I like to kickflip.
► 00:58:51
I'm rad.
► 00:58:54
I wasn't even alive on 9-11.
► 00:58:56
What are you talking about?
► 00:58:59
So, Alex does his show.
► 00:59:02
From Crowder's studio.
► 00:59:04
And for the first bit of it, Stephen Crowder's co-host, co-hosting with Alex.
► 00:59:09
Of course.
► 00:59:09
Which is so weird.
► 00:59:10
Why not?
► 00:59:13
Well, my friends, it's Monday, May 15th, 2023, and I am in the incredible studios, an undisclosed location in Russia.
► 00:59:24
Vladimir Putin's show.
► 00:59:25
No, I'm sorry, Steven Crowder.
► 00:59:26
I'm joking.
► 00:59:27
We're in Texas.
► 00:59:28
We love you.
► 00:59:29
We have Gerald Morgan, the CEO of Vladimir Crowder, totally kicking ass, dominating Rumble, dominating the numbers, leading the exodus out of big tech control.
► 00:59:40
I was asking Gerald, so I just co-hosted with him while Steven is dealing with a red tide problem.
► 00:59:45
I just hosted with him for two hours.
► 00:59:47
It was great, super fun, knocked out of the park, covered a lot of serious issues.
► 00:59:50
I said, what do you want to cover first?
► 00:59:52
And I was literally sitting here looking at my page, and he said, well, we should probably get into Biden and the whole declaring white people are black people's biggest enemy problem, how that deals with the border.
► 01:00:01
Wow, okay, I guess.
► 01:00:03
I mean, wait.
► 01:00:05
The whole Biden declaring white people are the biggest enemy of black people problem?
► 01:00:11
I mean, that's a problem.
► 01:00:13
I agree.
► 01:00:14
I think that probably would be a problem.
► 01:00:16
Yeah.
► 01:00:17
Yeah, he declared war on corn pop.
► 01:00:19
I mean, I guess it is what it is.
► 01:00:23
No, there wasn't quite so much what happened.
► 01:00:26
And also, I understand that they don't like the sentiment and the way that it's phrased coming from Biden, but shouldn't they welcome that declaration?
► 01:00:37
Why?
► 01:00:38
Isn't that kind of their vibe?
► 01:00:40
That white people are the biggest enemy of everybody else?
► 01:00:43
Well, no.
► 01:00:47
Yeah.
► 01:00:47
In one direction.
► 01:00:49
Right, exactly.
► 01:00:49
But I mean...
► 01:00:50
Everyone else...
► 01:00:52
Views white people as their enemy, not the other way around.
► 01:00:55
Right.
► 01:00:55
That is the way that Alex and the white victimhood persecution complex works.
► 01:01:00
Right, but I mean, at the end of the day, that makes them...
► 01:01:02
So really what happened is that Biden went to Howard University, which is a historically black university.
► 01:01:08
Yeah, HBCU.
► 01:01:10
Yeah, and he gave a commencement speech that had included in, among many other statements, that white supremacy is one of...
► 01:01:21
The Great Threats.
► 01:01:22
Oh, so he didn't come out and say, kill Whitey.
► 01:01:25
He didn't.
► 01:01:26
Okay, alright.
► 01:01:27
Well, maybe next time.
► 01:01:28
So here's their complaining about that.
► 01:01:30
Just encourage people.
► 01:01:31
They just got their degree.
► 01:01:33
They don't want to go and hear a political speech.
► 01:01:35
Just encourage people.
► 01:01:35
They want to know how they can go out and charge into an economy that is...
► 01:01:38
They want to hear how they're part of the American dream and how they've been successful.
► 01:01:42
Right.
► 01:01:42
How they've done a good job.
► 01:01:43
Not, you're victims and I'm going to protect you.
► 01:01:45
But that's all they've got.
► 01:01:46
If you're for the globalism, you're good.
► 01:01:49
If you're against open borders, you're against fentanyl, you're against all these wars, you're against all the woke culture, you're a white supremacist.
► 01:01:54
Remember, Biden made that his main national security focus in June of 2021 was, quote, white supremacy.
► 01:02:00
He then described white supremacists, people that question elections, question lockdowns, question forced shots.
► 01:02:06
Right, exactly.
► 01:02:20
Right at that same time.
► 01:02:23
False flag-ass Patriot Front.
► 01:02:24
Oh, no.
► 01:02:26
Patriot Front.
► 01:02:27
That's definitely not an established white nationalist group.
► 01:02:31
No, that's an FBI front.
► 01:02:32
Oh, he's an FBI.
► 01:02:34
Fake.
► 01:02:34
Yep, yep.
► 01:02:35
That sounds right.
► 01:02:36
So yeah, the thing that Alex is doing this classic misrepresentation about is that it wasn't that people who question the election or have vaccine concerns, that they are white supremacists.
► 01:02:51
It's that groups, including white supremacists, see fertile radicalization grounds within these movements.
► 01:02:59
And that is true.
► 01:03:01
And I know that Alex doesn't want to believe that because he likes that.
► 01:03:06
Fertile radicalization crown being there.
► 01:03:09
But yeah, so he presents it as like, anybody who questions the election is a white supremacist according to Biden.
► 01:03:13
Go fuck yourself.
► 01:03:16
It's so elementary that it's almost frustrating to even butt up against.
► 01:03:23
He's doing one of the great signs of somebody you shouldn't trust, which is if any topic comes up...
► 01:03:29
That you have to defend so breathlessly for such a period of time, you're doing it wrong.
► 01:03:38
Probably.
► 01:03:38
I can't trust you.
► 01:03:39
Yeah, you very well might actually be trying to defend white supremacists.
► 01:03:43
Yeah, it sounds like you're doing it breathlessly, aggressively, and very totally.
► 01:03:48
Oh, and also it's so weird how all these white supremacist, white nationalist groups are all fake, but then fake left-wing groups are real.
► 01:03:57
Right.
► 01:03:57
Oh.
► 01:03:58
Yeah.
► 01:03:59
Okay.
► 01:03:59
Yeah.
► 01:03:59
So, look, they start complaining about migrants and folks not having to get the COVID vaccine and what have you.
► 01:04:08
All 172 million.
► 01:04:09
Oh, it's gone up.
► 01:04:10
So many.
► 01:04:11
But you've got to assume that's only like a third of them.
► 01:04:13
Yeah.
► 01:04:13
You know?
► 01:04:13
Yeah, that's true.
► 01:04:14
Can you believe that?
► 01:04:15
People that they're letting run the streets basically just ship them somewhere, let them run around.
► 01:04:20
They don't have to have the COVID yet.
► 01:04:21
Nobody should have to have it, by the way.
► 01:04:23
But if you're really going to make somebody have it to be illegal immigrants.
► 01:04:26
Not the people who are coming in legally, not the people who are volunteering and checking the box and signing the guest book and saying, hey, I'd like to come here and do something good for this country.
► 01:04:34
Those guys should be exempt if anybody is.
► 01:04:35
I'm sorry.
► 01:04:36
They're just really pissed off.
► 01:04:36
No, you're right.
► 01:04:37
Not gay Gerald is making some good points.
► 01:04:39
Oh, come on!
► 01:04:40
No, not gay Alex.
► 01:04:41
That guy was going off on me right now.
► 01:04:43
It's a joke.
► 01:04:43
Not gay Alex has asked the question.
► 01:04:45
If you're not a regular Crowder here, you don't get the joke.
► 01:04:47
It's nothing to do with Gerald.
► 01:04:48
It's a joke.
► 01:04:49
Everybody knows it's me that's gay.
► 01:04:50
Robert Barnes is coming up next segment, competition lawyer to cover the waterfront on everything that's happening.
► 01:04:55
Wow.
► 01:04:56
I found myself missing the elevator music.
► 01:04:59
Yeah, I know.
► 01:05:00
I'm telling you, that made the show.
► 01:05:02
I was just expecting the elevator music to come in at some point.
► 01:05:06
Like, oh, goddammit.
► 01:05:07
That is what makes Louder with Crowder bearable, is the elevator music that they think is going to get me somewhere else.
► 01:05:13
Ironically, it improves the show.
► 01:05:14
Yeah, way, yeah.
► 01:05:15
So that joke that they made was about Crowder's It was a fun joke about how he wasn't gay.
► 01:05:25
I guess.
► 01:05:26
So Jared left the show in 2018 and there's not really a good answer as to why he left.
► 01:05:32
However, a lot of former employees of Crowder have come out lately and talked about how he has a bullying and abusive workplace environment that may have contributed to Jared's departure.
► 01:05:41
One such employee told the New York Post that Crowder exposed himself multiple times to Jared at work and another of Crowder's ex-employees and current Nazi, Owen Benjamin, has said that Crowder was miserable to work for and wasn't good about paying the staff.
► 01:05:55
Garrett appears to be a soft target for someone like Alex or Steven's current co-host to poke fun at because he's not one of the named former staffers who's coming out against Steven.
► 01:06:04
So there's probably less blowback they have to worry about because it's clear that at this point it seems like he's respecting whatever actual or sort of respect-based NDA or whatever.
► 01:06:17
He doesn't want to talk shit or whatever.
► 01:06:20
And so he's someone you can easily talk shit about.
► 01:06:22
Sure, sure.
► 01:06:23
So that's what the joke is.
► 01:06:25
Yeah.
► 01:06:25
Not gay Gerald.
► 01:06:26
Yeah, that's great.
► 01:06:27
That's great.
► 01:06:27
I really thought those were behind us.
► 01:06:30
You know?
► 01:06:31
I really did.
► 01:06:33
What was it?
► 01:06:35
In the late thousands?
► 01:06:36
That time whenever everybody was saying no homo all the time?
► 01:06:40
Yeah, it's basically that.
► 01:06:41
But as a nickname.
► 01:06:42
But didn't we all realize that that's actually really fucked up to do and we shouldn't have been doing that and I can't believe we did and everybody allowed us to do it?
► 01:06:51
Fuck us!
► 01:06:52
I think a lot of people had the experience that you're talking about and then a lot of people like Crowder decided...
► 01:06:57
That's the way I live my life forever!
► 01:07:00
Still funny!
► 01:07:01
Great.
► 01:07:01
And so they kind of hit this joke.
► 01:07:03
Wayne's World references and yeah, great.
► 01:07:06
They hit this joke a little hard.
► 01:07:07
Oh boy.
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We've got six minutes left with Gerald Morgan.
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Gerald, I can ask a lot of questions, but in the time we've got...
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No, I'm not gay.
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Well, you said you could ask a lot.
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I just wanted to take that off the table.
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It's an old joke.
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It's an old joke that's been made new.
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Absolutely.
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These guys have a dry sense of humor.
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Wow.
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I don't understand humor anymore.
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This isn't it.
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I know.
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Here's the thing.
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When we were doing stand-up, I understood.
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You know, it made sense.
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I was going up.
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And I had instant reaction, this was funny, this was not.
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Now I'm here, and I'm listening to this, and I'm hearing that you're telling me people, millions of people, laugh at this shit, and now I don't know anything, man.
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I don't know anything.
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Well, we only assume that lots of people laugh at this.
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That's fair.
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That might be a hasty assumption on our part.
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That's a good point.
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Maybe they tolerate it.
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Yeah, because they like some of the hate.
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Because they like the white nationalism.
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They're like, fine, we'll pretend you're funny.
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Look, everyone...
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It calls everybody a white supremacist.
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You know, like, it's...
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Alex has had enough of it.
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It's all very tired.
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No, it's old hat.
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Yes, very much so.
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All right, so, welcome back to the Alex Jones Show, hosting live receiver from Crowder's Texas undisclosed location.
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Owen Troyer riding shotgun with a special guest, supporter expert.
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Next segment.
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Owen, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that Biden for two and a half years is the number one threat to white supremacist, despite the fact none of the evidence is showing that.
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And now, if we don't like open borders, we're white supremacists.
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I'm really concerned about a false flag.
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Yeah, a false flag from these fake groups.
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Totally concerned about a false flag.
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So yeah, you've got a special guest coming up, though.
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You heard that?
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Very exciting.
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Yeah.
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It's not Robert Barnes.
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Oh.
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We're skipping past him.
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Okay, good.
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I don't care.
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I saw he was on.
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Good.
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Fast forward.
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We don't need media star Bobby Barnes no more.
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No.
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Look, I had a lot to go through with preparing this episode.
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I had to listen to Alex and Steven Crowder's shows within the same day.
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Brutal.
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It's a lot to go through, so I didn't need to throw Barnes into the pile.
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You don't need to add Barnes onto that, yeah.
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I feel like, now I might be wrong, but I feel like at this point in my career, I've heard about everything I need Barnes to say.
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Don't you want two adjectives all the time right next to each other?
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We're cooking and looking.
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Yeah, I know.
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Can't we just...
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Do you just rhyme things all day, every day?
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This is...
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Oh, God.
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Potatoes and potatoes.
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Wait, what?
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I don't know that one.
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So, yeah, he has a special guest.
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Sure.
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And given all the complaining about how everybody calls everyone a white nationalist...
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Right.
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Real surprising with who this guest is.
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All right, we have the editor, Peter Brimlove of vdare.com.
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He's been a major journalist and commentator and writer at MarketWatch, Forbes, Horses and Magazine, Barron's Financial Post.
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It goes on and on.
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He ends up V-Dare exposing the design collapse of our border.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Peter Brimlow.
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Yeah.
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He was a writer at a lot of those places.
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Was.
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Was.
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Until a certain career shift.
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Yeah.
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And he started hosting this white nationalist.
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Smorgasbord of a website.
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Well, V-Dare, some may say that it's white nationalist because it is.
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After all that shit, all that time where Alex was whining about people calling him a white supremacist and rambling about how white supremacy isn't a real problem, this is who he has on as a guest.
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He has noted white nationalist Peter Brimlow, the head of one of the most celebrated publications among white supremacists, V-Dare.
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That's a very good illustration of irony.
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V-Dare is named after Virginia Dare, who's said to be the first British child born in what is now the United States.
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She was born in the Roanoke colony in 1587, and if you know your early colonial history, you'll know that this colony straight up disappeared.
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Kroatoa.
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No one knows what happened to it, and there's no concrete evidence to support any of the theories surrounding its fate.
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However, one of the prominent theories is that the local Chesapeake tribe, I believe, no, that's not right.
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It was another tribe.
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I apologize, I got that wrong.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But one of the prominent theories is that they were killed.
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by one of these tribes, which is part of the basis for why Virginia Dare has become an important signifier among white nationalist and white supremacist groups.
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You can see why this image has resonance for that kind of community, what with their obsession of their own persecution for being white.
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Sure.
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To be clear, there is another version of memorializing Virginia that does happen among non-white nationalists, as she's kind of a symbol of new beginnings and the possibilities that began with the first child born in the colonies, but it's important to understand that this is not the legacy that V-Dare celebrates.
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They are definitely in the whiteness business.
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Yeah.
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quote, I picked the name because I wanted to focus attention on the very specific cultural origins of America at a time when mass non-traditional immigration is threatening to swamp it.
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I have to say that I was a little surprised by this booking, particularly given the earlier tone of the episode, but it's not that much of a shock.
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The rest of the episode, honestly, is predictably Alex and Brimlow exchanging what amounts to white genocide fears about immigration.
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Back and forth.
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That sounds right.
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More or less.
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So we've got that to enjoy.
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Yeah, I don't think that one's a good one to memorialize too much.
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I think just let that one go.
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What do you mean?
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Well, I mean, ah, boy.
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I agree with you in the way that V-Dare memorializes her.
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Sure, sure.
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But I do think that there is, like, kind of some aspects of the mystery that surrounds everything about the Roanoke colony, honestly.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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And her as a young child who, like, I don't know, there's almost a...
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Peter Pan-ish quality to, like, I mean, it's obviously not the true story.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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But, like, the idea that she grew up in the untouched woods.
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No, I understand.
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There's something that you can understand resonating with people on a non-hateful, let's get rid of all non-white immigrants.
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No, no, no.
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I can understand that.
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I can understand that, but to me, like, there's a certain part of me that can't help but be like...
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I don't know if people celebrate the first white child born in Johannesburg.
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Maybe we let that one go.
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I can understand there's a fraught situation.
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The only reason I'm even giving any voice to this is because when I was looking into it, there's a lot of folks that don't seem to have any hateful intent that still look upon Virginia Dare as an interesting figure.
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For sure.
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And contextless.
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It is still a wonderful symbol.
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It is still a metaphor.
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It's still a great symbol of that hope of, like, we have left a place of persecution.
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I get that.
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That's cool.
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And it's not that for them.
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You know, it's the same thing with...
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It has elements of John Birch in the John Birch Society.
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Sure, sure.
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The first person who was killed in the Cold War.
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Right.
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Taking on this as mythologizing and creating this idea that serves your political purposes as opposed to what the person was.
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And I think it's fairly similar.
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But I think that there's some people who probably would remember John Birch as...
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Oh, totally!
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I mean, I don't...
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You know, he's a missionary.
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Some people probably had some positive feelings about him.
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It isn't about anti-communism and absurd.
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Conspiracy nonsense.
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What I find so disingenuous about this, and what drives me mad that it is so easy to see through and is still not seen through, is they're clearly martyr hunting.
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They're going and purposely finding people that they can use as martyrs.
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They are not allowing martyrs to be symbols.
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Yeah, for sure.
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So, Brimlow has some ideas about what he wants to see in the world, or at least in the U.S., and how it should change.
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Is there time to turn it back?
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How is this being received?
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I mean, it does seem like it's waking people up right now, but is it a day late and a dollar short?
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No, there's a lot of stuff that could be done.
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I think the most critical thing that could be done right now is abolishing birthright citizenship, because all of these people who are going to come in are coming in now.
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If they have kids here, those kids are American citizens.
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As a practical matter, they can't be deported.
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So that should be done immediately.
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And then, of course, they should do massive deportations.
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There was a huge, huge deportation campaign in the early 50s when there was an illegal immigration crisis.
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It wasn't nowhere near as bad as this, but it was very substantial.
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And about a million and a half illegals left in the 1950s.
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They only had to deport about 100,000 of them.
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The others got the message and left.
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And that would happen again.
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The problem is the Democrats still wanted to happen.
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We've got to end anchor babies, end anchor babies, and then reimplement President Eisenhower's policies.
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Incidentally, when Brimlow says that he wants a mass deportation like the one in the 50s, he's referring to an operation that has a racist name.
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Rhymes with jetpack.
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Yeah.
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Not great.
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Over a million people were deported to Mexico.
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Many of them who were American citizens who were caught up in dragnets set out to capture immigrants.
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Incalculable damage was done to Mexican-American communities who were terrorized and disrupted.
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People who were deported were often left in areas where they were completely unfamiliar with their surroundings and had no food or water.
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In one case that was referenced by NPR, there was a roundup in 112 degree heat that resulted in So...
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I mean, you can kind of see where he's at.
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I wonder if Brimler wants his imagined revoking of birthright citizenship to be retroactive.
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That would get messy really fast.
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And that's where I was thinking about this idea of, like, if people who were born in the U.S. are, you know, quote-unquote illegal, then who is legal?
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No, I mean, the reasonable thing to do, if you say that...
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Give all the land back to the native populations, and then if they don't want all of it, we can lease some from them.
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It is strange to want that.
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Considering the ramifications that would be made by this policy having existed, you really just want to push...
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Non-white people out of the country.
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At the end of the day, that's all this is.
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Are you coming for the potato famine?
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Like, what are we doing?
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Where does your bullshit stop?
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Because I'll tell you what, y 'all weren't on the fucking Mayflower.
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That's for goddamn sure.
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And even if you were...
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Fuck you!
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Do you have any right to citizenship?
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Right?
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I don't know.
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I sure as fuck don't think so.
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So also, if he wants this done, he's going to need to change the Constitution.
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Because the 14th Amendment is pretty explicit that people born in the U.S. are citizens.
► 01:18:50
If being opposed to that is fine, even though it's in the Constitution, then Alex should probably not be so mad about people who want gun reform.
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Yeah, you do.
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Apparently, amendments are open questions.
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Yeah.
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Yep, you just can't have a traditionalist viewpoint of the Constitution and then be like, but you know what, we'll change whatever we want whenever we want to for being racist.
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Yeah.
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Hooray!
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So anyway, I was surprised that I actually got an answer because I was wondering if he wanted to have a retroactive revocal of people's citizenship from being born in the U.S. And apparently he does.
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What's the timetable?
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How long till we lose the country?
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I mean, how bad is it?
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I mean, give us your real prognosis on what's going to happen if this continues.
► 01:19:38
Put in very blunt terms, Weiss will cease to be a majority in America somewhere around about 2050.
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Now, that doesn't mean there'll be a majority that's ceased to be a majority of the electorate.
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That'll take maybe another 20 years.
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But somewhere in here, you know, if you want America to remain American, you've got to get control of the situation.
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And that means an immigration moratorium.
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It means mass deportation.
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It probably is retroactive with racism reform.
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All the people who came in the last three or four years should not be allowed to become American citizens.
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And their children should be allowed to become American citizens.
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But it can be done.
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That's messy.
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So here's the thing.
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Here's the problem with your V-Dare bullshit.
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If you're going to say that.
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You know, like...
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What you are implicitly saying whether you understand it or not is that the smartest thing that the First Peoples could have done is the moment a white person landed on this place they should have killed every single fucking one of us every single time we fucking landed on this place.
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That's the smart thing that he is advocating for because that is a smart way to maintain control of your country.
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Maybe there's another way, but...
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Well, I mean, deport them, or whatever it is you want to pretend is what his real goal is.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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I'm more interested in this shell game that he's playing with terms.
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Alex is saying how long is it going to be until we lose the country.
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And then he talks about how long it'll be until there isn't a white majority.
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And then he says if we want to keep America American.
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It's like, okay, you're talking about losing the country.
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You're interchangeably essentially using white majority and America being American.
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So we kind of get what's going on here.
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Yeah.
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You can use other terms if you want.
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This is about a white majority.
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That's all you want.
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It's white nationalism.
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I mean, it is exactly that.
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That's why I can't get the...
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I mean, maybe they would be fine with that.
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You know, like that idea of, yeah, if the Native Americans wanted to keep this land, they should have fucking killed us.
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Like, maybe that would make sense to them.
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Well, they would, yeah, I guess the complaint they would have is that they didn't have a good enough organization to deport.
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Uh, the settlers.
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Yeah, exactly.
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The colonists.
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Like, that has to be your argument, and if that's your argument, then you have to say that America is ours because we conquered it, and then you have to say that it is- He might actually be okay with that.
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No, and if that's the case, then you do have to say that this is a white nation, because white people conquered it, I guess, is your argument.
► 01:22:22
I think you would probably try and, like, use terms like Western, or American.
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Yeah, but that would be dumb.
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Traditional American, or something like that.
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You could do that, but that would be dumb.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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But that's, you know, again, it's the hiding the ball.
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Yep.
► 01:22:37
So the number one problem to Peter Brimlow, apparently, is black crime in the U.S., which is not surprising.
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If we want people to assimilate melting pot, we can do it, but they're bringing in foreign populations.
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We could do it.
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It's not what we want to do.
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Oh, yes.
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I mean, the Democrats have put everything on identity politics.
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They think if they have various ethnic factions and so on, they're easily manipulated.
► 01:23:06
And they're also easily incited against the base amount of the host American population, which is why we see Joe Biden giving this speech at Howard University on the weekend saying that the major problem is white supremacy.
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You know, that's the major problem in the country.
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Of course, the major problem is the country has its black crime.
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But he doesn't want to say that.
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He wants to rile up his own base.
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The next thing was going to be, you know, reparations for Hispanics or something like that because of Cortez.
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Maybe not because of Cortez, but maybe because of the, you know, the dragnets and illegal mass deportations that you're saying we need more of that happened in, you know, the Great Depression and in the 50s that he celebrates.
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Maybe there is an argument to be made for some reparations for people, you know, due to that.
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Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I can disagree with him insofar as He is describing a group of ethnic obsessives who were hating the swamp and were easily manipulated into voting for a racist billionaire and then attempted to overthrow the country after being incited by said billionaire.
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I mean...
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If he's talking about himself!
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I don't know if Brimlow was at J6.
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He's making a very good argument for why we couldn't do that, why we shouldn't do that, and why he shouldn't do that.
► 01:24:38
I mean, this is a pretty bad interview.
► 01:24:42
Yeah, this is a white nationalist conversation.
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This is not an interview.
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Yeah.
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So we get to some suggestions here where Brimlow has some ideas about what should be done.
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So what is the policy?
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What is the idea, Peter, to end this, to stop this?
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I mean, what do we need to do?
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Well, you know, right off.
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First of all, abolish political correctness.
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Why can't we talk about this frankly?
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We can't from the mainstream media, which is why you and I are talking here now.
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How is that a policy idea?
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What's the government going to do to abolish political correctness that's going to have an impact on whether or not news channels want to talk to Peter Brimlow about his tired-ass old xenophobic ideas?
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Does he want the government to mandate that he's required to be booked on CNN?
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He's already opposed to the 14th Amendment, so why not the first two?
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It's not political correctness that makes people not want to talk about Peter's ideas.
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It's that we've done this already.
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His ideas aren't new and dangerous.
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They're really old, and from a past, most of us have left behind.
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Terrorizing minority communities to encourage them to leave the country is a monstrous suggestion, and it didn't work when the U.S. did that in the Great Depression, and then did it again in the 50s.
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This shit is stale and transparent, so most legitimate networks don't have any interest in engaging with it.
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There isn't a conversation to be Yeah, no, I'm...
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I'm struggling to think of a 30-year period where we did not have one attempt at an ethnic cleansing in this country since its inception.
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Alex runs a network that's essentially fueled by inciting white victimhood narratives, which is what Brimlow's goddamn site is named after, so he's perfect for this.
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They can sit around and whine about how nobody likes them because of their dangerous ideas, and they can have fun in their fucking echo chamber just insisting that they're not racist, but stupid.
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It's meaningless.
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But this really gives up the game a little bit when the first thing that comes to Peter's mind when Alex asks for a policy suggestion is to abolish political correctness.
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This is an embarrassing level of unseriousness.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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I mean, he's a fucking adult.
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This is not cool.
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I mean, you might as well say what the government should do is mandate everybody say white nationalist things.
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The government should not be woke.
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The government should stop channels from being woke.
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The government should regulate who's allowed to be in beer commercials.
► 01:27:07
Can I say that if that is your number one policy choice, then essentially what you are saying is that the government should step in and stop people from being mean to me.
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Yeah.
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Let me stipulate that it's maybe not his number one.
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Number one policy decision, because I think that would be like mass deportation.
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Sure, sure, sure.
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But it's the first thing that came to his mind.
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Well, yes, exactly.
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Because he knows he's not going to get mass deportation.
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He's hoping for people to not be mean to him anymore.
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He's also not going to get anyone to abolish political correctness, because this doesn't mean anything.
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It doesn't mean anything.
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No.
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This is just, I'm not getting booked.
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I mean, yeah, didn't we already move on from the term political correctness?
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Now it's woke?
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Well, he's like...
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Exactly!
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He's trapped in the past whenever we already fucking did this!
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Yeah.
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I'm curious.
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How old is he?
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75. 75. 75 years young.
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Wow.
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Yep.
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We should be listening to people who are 75. Yep.
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Yep.
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Also, you might notice his accent.
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He was born in England.
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But he is a naturalized U.S. citizen.
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Okay, so let's deport him.
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Well, he went through the naturalized process.
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I want to deport him.
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Well, I mean, I feel like- He's not from here.
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I feel like it would be interesting for you to argue that against him.
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I want to deport you.
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See if his argument for why he should be- Let's go, buddy.
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Yeah.
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So, um, man, I know- I mean, for fuck's sakes, you shouldn't be allowed in this fucking country if your bullshit is about the beginning of this fucking country.
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British people have no business being here.
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None!
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You know that Alex screamed at Piers Morgan about how, like, about 1776...
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I mean, I'm just saying, they should be the only people that are thoroughly banned from being in this country.
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Wow.
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This is a bold, bold position.
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I'm standing by this proclamation.
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So a lot of people will make the argument that, you know, Peter Brimlow's racist.
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Sure.
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And he's...
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I mean, I can't imagine why people would say that.
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Well, in the short run, what we need is one, immigration moratorium, two, massive deportation, three, birthright citizenship reform, four, I think the abolition of a lot of these DEI stuff, this diversity, equity, inclusion, which is basically a way of subsidizing these non-white, non-traditional groups through public policy.
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That's necessary because, you know, if there were substrates, they would go away.
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They'd be more inclined to go away.
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Yeah, you just want non-white people to go away.
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Yep.
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I mean, you know, he kind of gives up a little bit of the illusion there when he says non-white, non-traditional.
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So that's what you mean when you say non-traditional, essentially.
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Do we get the message?
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Yeah.
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Get the message.
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Yep.
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Non-straight white cis people.
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That's what is allowed here.
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Let's put up one big sign around the border.
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Straight white cis people.
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It's a little overt.
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Yeah.
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So we have one last clip here, because Alex does his show from Stephen's studio.
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He talks to Stephen's co-host, then he has Barnes on, and then he has Peter Brimlow, and then Owen takes over.
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So it's really a half day for his own show, despite the full day for the other show.
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Yeah.
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Because I think his interests are more in piracy of that ship.
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Yep.
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So anyway, here is...
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Brimlow and Alex just kind of being racist.
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So it's fundamentally a corrupt motive.
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But it's not just corruption.
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I mean, these people absolutely dislike having a white America.
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They think they're safer for various ethnic reasons.
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If they can build a more diverse America and they can manipulate all the different factions and play them up against each other.
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And that's, of course, what they're doing.
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By the way, I have the clips of leftists, like the head of the vaccine program in Texas, saying she's a white lady.
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White people are inherently bad.
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We've got to get rid of them.
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They don't do what we say.
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So I think there is a...
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I mean, if you really look at the Civil War and what happened there, I mean, if it was a bunch of people from what's the UK today that did want to be told what to do, then I think they do see...
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Particularly that European stock is having a seed of rebellion in it that they don't want.
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The globalists have captured the third world, so they're really fundamentally attacking that.
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I mean, it really is true.
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Holy shit.
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I am, you know, sometimes I stop and think about their bullshit, you know, and all their Western bullshit.
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And then I just can't stop thinking about how Europe has been fighting nonstop for the past 2,000 years.
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Like, non-fucking-stop.
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It's been a lot.
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Non-stop.
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Sure.
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War.
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Across all of Europe.
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Quite a bit.
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So what world do you think you're going to live in where the United, quote, States is going to not go into a giant shit ton of wars with each other?
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That's crazy.
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I think even, you know, taking it outside of Europe, I think just interpersonally...
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With everybody, there is conflict, there is resolution, there is community, there's communion.
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Like, there are all those aspects between every individual and individual, and every group and every group, because that's just kind of the nature of how humans are.
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And, yeah, imagining that that state of affairs would ever be different, like, regardless of who is where, like, is silly.
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Almost.
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Yeah, I mean, there's a very good lens to view human history through, and that's just the genesis of breaking up and then getting back together again.
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A constant breakup, new ideas, smash back together, breakup, new ideas, smash back together in waves over and over and over again until about 50 years from now when we're all dead.
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So one of the things that I think is really kind of bizarre about this is that, like, okay, so you have essentially regressiveness is the name of the game.
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Yeah.
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Like, there is a desire to regress policy back to a point when, you know, everything was...
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You know, white-oriented, and that's the name of the game.
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The good old idyllic times.
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Much like, you know, a lot of white supremacist, white nationalist types, Peter Brimlow is really against the immigration reforms of 1965, the, quote, Hart-Seller Act that Nick Fuentes screams about all the time.
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Sure.
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And so, like, you know, you have this desire to regress, but, like, I don't know, at that point...
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You don't think you're going to regress further?
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At what point do you have a stable definition even of whiteness that you're going to adhere to?
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Oh, man.
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I mean...
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It seems to me like there's just going to be problems.
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Even in his ideal world.
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If he got what he wanted five minutes after every non-white person was gone...
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Every Catholic should be shaken in their boots.
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You know, like, that's the next step for these people.
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The logical next step.
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Yeah, I mean, yeah.
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Absolutely.
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There's, um, yeah.
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I think that this is just a nonsense game that he's playing that's out of division and hate.
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That is at the root of all of this.
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And he can intellectualize things all he wants.
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It's just stupid.
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And it's not a solution to any real problem.
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Now, the other thing is, I do find it fascinating, this racism that Alex has.
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The implication is that these white European stocks...
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Have a kind of a noble heroicness to them.
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And the implication, I guess, is that all other ethnic groups don't.
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It's hard not to get that implication.
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People don't understand what words mean when you put them all together.
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They mean more than the thing that you intend them to mean.
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They mean the totality of what they mean.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So yeah, I think, I mean, obviously the headline is Alex was on Steven Crowder's show and then hosted his own show from Crowder's studio.
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The two of them are getting buddy-buddy in a way that is, you know, it's...
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Uncomfortable?
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I mean, a little bit.
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Inasmuch as I think that the Steven Crowder brand of content is fucking stupid and difficult to watch in a way that is...
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Because there's just annoyance.
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There's sound effects.
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There's fart noises almost constantly.
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It's just a very bad sophomoric show.
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No, it's like white nationalist Howard Stern shit.
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A little bit, yeah.
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I don't think that there's any real possibility of the two of them merging in any way that is, like, gonna make a forming, like, Voltron into some kind of thing.
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Because their egos won't allow it.
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Crowder has this big deal with Rumble.
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Alex has his own site that he's invested millions and millions of dollars into.
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So, like, there isn't a way that these merge, necessarily.
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And so that part is kind of a concern that isn't foremost in my mind.
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But the way that Alex operates and the way he tries to co-opt and take viewers from people and lead them into his shit, that I think is kind of scary.
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Because particularly the demographic information about generally younger audience listening to Crowder, I think that it does pose a significant...
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Yeah, because, I mean, at the end of the day, Alex would happily torpedo everything Steven Crowder's ever built if it gets him a little bit more attention.
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He's a sneaky snake.
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Yeah, he'd burn it all down.
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As soon as he doesn't need him, he's going to gut him like a pig.
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I mean, I don't know how these people can trust each other at all for even a fucking second.
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No, I don't.
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It's bananas.
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I doubt they do.
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Yeah, that's crazy.
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And then, I mean, sub-headline, probably more importantly.
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It looks like Peter Primlow on his show to just spout white nationalist bullshit.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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So that's that.
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That is that.
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See, I don't like the modern day.
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Nope, nope, nope.
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Sucks.
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Yep.
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Anyway, we'll be back.
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Indeed we will.
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With another episode.
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But until then, Jordan, we have a website.
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Indeed we do.
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It's KnowledgeFight.com.
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Yep, we're also on Twitter.
► 01:37:56
We are on Twitter.
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It's at KnowledgeFight.
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Yep.
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Damn it.
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Look, we'll be back.
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But until then, I'm Naomi, I'm DZX, Clark.
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I wish that I had just isolated the elevator music.
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Yeah, I know, that would have nailed it.
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Because that would have been perfect instead of my scatting.
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You can put it in post.
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Just imagine that elevator music in your head right now.
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Just a couple seconds of that.
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Just imagine it right here.
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No, no, no, you can't do it.
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Okay, sorry.
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Because that'll ruin the audience's ability to imagine.
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So just imagine it.
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Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo!
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And now here comes the sex robots.
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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
► 01:38:35
Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.