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April 21, 2023 - Knowledge Fight
01:25:44
#798: April 19, 2023

Today, Dan and Jordan check in to see what Alex's response was to the announcement that RFK Jr. is running for president.  In the process, they find Alex reuniting with an old time guest, a member of the anti-vax royalty and laminated card enthusiast, Rima Laibow.

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
08:10
d
dan friesen
41:10
j
jordan holmes
22:21
r
rima laibow
09:56
Appearances
Clips
d
dr rima laibow
00:23
p
pastor david manning
00:02
s
steve quayle
00:02
Callers
andy in kansas
00:01
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
We need money.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas Andy in Kansas Stop it Andy in Kansas Andy in Kansas Andy in Kansas It's time to pray.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your room.
KnowledgeFight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody!
Welcome back to KnowledgeFight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
unidentified
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
I have a quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot today, Jordan, is this Monday.
I hung out with dear friends Marty DeRosa and Sarah Shockey.
jordan holmes
Ah, yes.
dan friesen
I had a wonderful time.
Comedian Jonah Jerkins also showed up.
alex jones
Oh, wow.
dan friesen
Hung out for a bit, but then we went over to Marty and Sarah's place and watched some Raw.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Watch some Raw.
jordan holmes
All right.
So you watched the daytime version of the pay-per-views.
That's what I'm calling Raw.
dan friesen
I don't want to tell Tales out of school because Marty and Sarah are big wrestling fans.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But we did not finish it.
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
dan friesen
Some other people showed up and we ended up watching music videos.
jordan holmes
Okay, well, that sounds right.
dan friesen
Because Marty was obsessed with the way that George Thurgood looks.
And I'll be surprised.
Didn't look anything like I imagined.
jordan holmes
You know what?
I don't know what George Thurgood looks like.
dan friesen
You don't realize that until you think about it, and then you realize I have no idea.
jordan holmes
I know the name perfectly.
unidentified
I suddenly realize I have no idea what he looks like.
dan friesen
Everyone listening to this, if you don't know what he looks like, Google him.
He does not look like what you think he does.
I can tell you that right now.
So anyway, the bright spot, Jordan, is that Sarah had some easels.
And she offered to make some paintings.
So I have a gift for you in the form of a couple of paintings that Sarah did while we were hanging out.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
So you'll see that there are two of them.
There's a demon, a devil Jordan.
jordan holmes
Use your discernment.
dan friesen
Do you know who that's supposed to be?
unidentified
Rafa?
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So it's a hell version of Jordan with Rafael Nadal saying, use your discernment.
jordan holmes
That's hell me?
dan friesen
Yeah, that's evil you.
jordan holmes
I look pretty good evil.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And then good you.
jordan holmes
And then there's Connor Freakydorf.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Connor Friedersdorf is the devil on your angel shoulder.
jordan holmes
Connor Friedersdorf is telling me to do good?
dan friesen
No, he loves you.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
See, it wanted it to be confusing.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
It's like the good version of you has a person you hate.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
Expressing a loving thing to you.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And then the evil version has a person you like saying something negative to you.
jordan holmes
Gotcha, gotcha.
So she's expressing the duality of meaning.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I gotcha.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
It's very confusing, but we conceived of this, and I was very impressed that she was able to pull that off.
jordan holmes
That's very well.
Well pulled off.
There's no doubt about it.
I'm going to have to take pictures of these.
unidentified
Oh yeah, please do.
dan friesen
These are amazing.
We'll post pictures of that because otherwise this is a little too visual.
I mean, I can say Google George Thurgood, but I can't do that with these pictures.
jordan holmes
No, those are amazing.
I'm going to have to text Sarah and say thank you.
dan friesen
I was shocked that you were able to pick Rafa out of that.
We looked at a picture of Connor Friedersdorf and realized, like, that's gonna be tough.
jordan holmes
No, you might as well write Connor Freakydorf on there.
There's no way that I'm gonna pick that out of a lineup.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
He's not distinctive enough necessarily for a caricature.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot, Dan, is unfortunately less ebullient and gift-giving, but there's a new album by Al Michaels Affair with Black Thought.
dan friesen
Did you say Al Michaels Affair?
jordan holmes
Al Michaels Affair, yeah.
It's Leon Michaels and his jazz collective band hip-hop soul thing.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Right?
And Black Thought.
Does the whole album.
Fucking amazing.
It's incredible.
It always reminds you how...
Every time you hear Black Thought without the roots with Soul Live or anyone...
He's a huge jazz bow.
Anytime you hear him outside of the roots, it's always like, God damn, Black Thought is good.
dan friesen
I have always worried that jazz bow isn't a cool thing to say.
jordan holmes
No, it's not.
dan friesen
But it's really fun.
jordan holmes
It's so fun.
dan friesen
But is it offensive?
jordan holmes
To who?
Jazz bows?
dan friesen
To jazz people?
jordan holmes
Who cares what jazz bows think?
I'm a jazz bow?
dan friesen
I think they should get Al Michaels in that band.
jordan holmes
Ah, Al Michaels and Al Michaels together.
dan friesen
Finally.
jordan holmes
Two Michaels.
dan friesen
Yeah.
People have been clamoring for it.
jordan holmes
Now that's a Michaels affair right there.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No, it's fantastic.
It's a great album.
dan friesen
That's great.
Jazz bows.
Keep your ears open.
jordan holmes
Keep them open.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
We're going to be talking about the present day.
And this time we are not going to get sidetracked and veered over into Tim Pool conversation.
jordan holmes
Good news.
dan friesen
So, yeah, we got the 19th, April 19th.
And I figured one of the reasons it would be good to cover this and jump in is because something that maybe I said wasn't going to happen did happen in the form of RFK Jr. deciding he was going to run for president.
jordan holmes
That is the case, yes.
dan friesen
It's not gonna work out.
jordan holmes
I think he's got an outsider chance, you know?
dan friesen
It has the potential to sow some chaos.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
You know, in as much as there are left-wing folks...
You know, presumably who would vote Democrat who are anti-vax.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He's going to appeal to those cats.
There's a lot of people who love Curb Your Enthusiasm who are going to love that he's married to Cheryl Hines.
jordan holmes
There's got to be that, yeah.
There's a voting base there.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
But, I mean, obviously he's not going to get the Democratic nomination.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
But there is some, like, worry that some people have of him, like, being Trump's running mate.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I think that that is, like, probably a little bit...
You know, not gonna happen-ish.
unidentified
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
dan friesen
But man, that would be something that is pretty fucking...
It could sow enough Discord to, like...
Yeah, I mean, this is...
jordan holmes
I don't even know.
I don't even know what to do about this.
I feel like if he becomes the running mate, or in any way becomes close to the halls of power...
dan friesen
That's highly, highly speculative, I should say.
jordan holmes
That is the best...
I want it to happen, because then we can all just be like, oh, we're in the carnival timeline.
Nothing's gonna make sense ever again.
dan friesen
First Lady Cheryl Hines.
jordan holmes
Yeah, let's just give it up.
Let's just all call it a day.
Smoke him if you got him.
dan friesen
I was watching a bit of his announcement speech, and he was talking about how his wife is Cheryl Hines.
And he was like, I think America is ready for a really funny first lady.
unidentified
I was like, that's not the quality I look for first.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's...
dan friesen
She is funny.
jordan holmes
She's great.
I heard Lady Bird was pretty funny.
She was a raconteur.
dan friesen
Who told you that?
jordan holmes
I mean, I guess she did.
dan friesen
Self-reporting.
I'm not sure you can count on that.
jordan holmes
Can't trust her.
dan friesen
Everyone thinks they're funny.
jordan holmes
It's true.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
I'll take it.
dan friesen
Carter's wife, Linda Carter?
No, she was a superwoman.
jordan holmes
That was Wonder Woman.
dan friesen
Man, I made three mistakes in one sentence.
It's awesome that right before the show you were talking about how you can't talk, and then I come swinging.
jordan holmes
I'm coming in slow, and you have got the fire right now.
dan friesen
Nancy Reagan, not funny.
Hillary, not so funny.
jordan holmes
Nope.
Edith Wilson?
Very much not funny.
First female president, though, so you gotta give her that.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Let's see.
I know Andrew Jackson was married.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
And I imagine that you've got funny stories if you're married to Andrew Jackson.
dan friesen
Probably not the right kind of funny.
jordan holmes
Probably not the right kind of funny.
No, not the right kind of funny.
That's a good point.
dan friesen
So anyway, I wanted to see what Alex's response to Robert Kennedy Jr.'s announcement was.
And we get a little bit of that here in this episode.
And more than we bargained for.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
dan friesen
So we'll get down to business on this.
But first...
Let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Garrett, happy birthday, and mullet toss responsibly.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, happy birthday, Skip.
Love Skip and the boys.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Is that someone wishing themselves a happy birthday?
jordan holmes
I hope so.
dan friesen
Or there's two people named Skip.
jordan holmes
Or all the boys are also named Skip.
dan friesen
Could be.
Next, by the time you hear this, I'll be studying to become an actual policy wonk.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Next, Alex has the heart of a globalist and a lifetime ban from Bohemian Grove.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Next, congrats to Florian and Cheryl.
May both of you rise above your enemies.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so thank you so much to I'm Squatch-Blooded!
Check-in-see!
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Call home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
unidentified
Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp.
alex jones
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ!
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
So, we start today, and Alex is in a COVID vaccine conspiracy mood, even before the announcement that Robert Kennedy is running.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So, it's pretty appropriate.
alex jones
Today, we have another medical doctor popping in to cipher this announcement by the FDA.
FDA, monovalent Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines are no longer authorized, pulled from the market.
jordan holmes
That sounds wrong.
alex jones
That's because they want to make you, quote, take the new ones, admitting the old ones don't work, and of course the new ones don't work either.
They've got even more on the way.
What a complete fraud.
dan friesen
So this wasn't some indication that the vaccines are a fraud or even an announcement that requires any deciphering.
The original vaccine was based solely on the original strain of the virus, and now they have a vaccine that's based on multiple strains and provides much wider protection, including to the original strain.
So it kind of makes it superfluous.
It's a situation where the initial vaccine has been outdone, so there's no reason to continue to provide it.
I don't know what this medical doctor is going to help decipher.
It's a little bit like somebody being like, you know what?
jordan holmes
You can't get the original iPod anymore.
That's because Apple got rid of it and told you that they don't work.
That's obviously what's happening.
It's not that we're 30 generations on in terms of production and shit yet.
dan friesen
I think that maybe Alex would think this way.
That's interesting because I think that obviously there's planned obsolescence in marketing of products like iPods and phones and stuff like that.
I don't think that's the case with vaccines.
jordan holmes
I doubt it.
dan friesen
I think Alex might think that.
jordan holmes
That would be interesting.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think he kind of does have that vibe.
jordan holmes
I mean, can you?
You can't plan obsolescence on a vaccine.
That would require knowledge of how the disease is going to adapt to it, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, but Alex thinks everybody has so much more information at their disposal than they actually do.
jordan holmes
This is a lot like that thing I saw in Utopia.
Are there other movies that we can talk about?
dan friesen
That feature comic books?
Yes, there are plenty.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
dan friesen
So bad news.
The cows.
The pigs.
jordan holmes
They're gone?
dan friesen
No.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
But they're not safe.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
And soon you will not be able to eat them because they're being injected with mRNA COVID vaccines.
jordan holmes
No!
alex jones
I meant to get to the show today.
I covered it some, but I've got to spend some time on this.
Documents are out.
It's confirmed.
Pigs and cows are being given the mRNA shots since 2018.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
Before the whole COVID hysteria.
That's what Bill Gates'mini-me, Fauci, said in 2018 on C-SPAN, in that hearing we played so many times, or that roundtable discussion with a bunch of the federal regulators, the agencies up there, they said we need to have a virus out of China to blow up the system and just have mRNA come in where there's no more research or studies, we just test on the They didn't say that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds like a bad thing to say out loud.
dan friesen
So Alex saw this news about animals being given mRNA shots in a meme, I guess.
So now it's fully documented and proven.
It's complete bullshit, though.
Some animals, like ones at zoos, have been given a COVID vaccine, but it's not the same one that's given to people, and it doesn't use mRNA.
That being said, there are a number of vaccines for animals that use RNA platforms, and that's been the case for many years.
Owners have discretion over which vaccines they want to give or not give their livestock, and there's currently no mRNA vaccines that are licensed for use on animals.
I can't stress this enough.
Alex is reporting all this as confirmed.
based on like a meme or a headline from some conspiracy shithead social media or blog.
Yeah.
unidentified
And all of this seems to trace back to anti-vax legend Dr. Mercola, who is complaining about a pig vaccine called Sequivity, which isn't even an mRNA vaccine, and it isn't even a vaccine.
dan friesen
Sequivity is a platform that Merck created that allows them to use RNA technology to rapidly create vaccines for pigs.
The end result is a modified live virus vaccine, but because the platform itself uses RNA technology, anti-vax folks see those letters and then just decide that this is mRNA, which means that it's the same thing as the COVID vaccine, just means the COVID vaccine predates the pandemic.
It's really lazy stuff, and reporting on this without having a basic understanding of what you're talking about is really an exploitation of the audience on Alex's part.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, you gave me a basic understanding, and I don't think I want to report on it.
I don't fully understand.
Like, there's a platform that they use to fast-track RNA vaccines?
That's fun?
dan friesen
No, no.
Live virus, like modified live virus vaccines.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
Yeah, not RNA or mRNA vaccines.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
That's cool.
Yeah, it is.
jordan holmes
I didn't know that was a possible thing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I would like to learn way more about that before I go around telling people that it's evil.
dan friesen
Apparently they've developed that and gotten it approved for particularly pig-based conditions.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's cool.
Does that mean that we're, I mean, that seems like we're headed, if they can do that for pigs and it works, that's...
Pigs are practically us.
dan friesen
I would argue there's subtle differences.
jordan holmes
There are slight differences, but we're both delicious.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, who knows?
There could be some possibility that something like this could happen for humans.
I don't know.
I definitely don't know enough.
jordan holmes
See?
Exactly!
dan friesen
So I can't speak on that.
But I can talk a little bit about the secrevity, and it actually comes up again later, so we'll get into it a little more then.
But for now, we have another guest.
Not just Stella Emanuel that's going to be on today.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
We get...
A blast from the past.
alex jones
Don't forget that Arima Labo is going to be joining us at the bottom of the next hour.
The ultimate whistleblower that predicted it all.
She's got new, groundbreaking intel.
They're planning to release new viruses in the next phase of the New World Order and how we can stop it.
I cannot stress to you how important this is going to be.
Everybody needs to tune in.
Everybody needs to tell.
Their email list, their text message friends, people, random folks in a 7-Eleven.
Hey, tune in to Infowars.com forward slash show.
Forbidden info coming up.
1230 Central.
dan friesen
I did this, actually.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
Yeah, but the 7-Eleven nearest me actually was closed.
So I ran there to try and tell people to tune in.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And I had to go, like, four miles to get to the next 7-Eleven.
It was just a hassle.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, I mean, then both you and the 7-Eleven people missed the thing that Alex wanted you to hear in the first place.
dan friesen
Right, right, because I was on the way.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And when you got there, they were like, oh, the show's over.
dan friesen
Such a self-defeating thing.
So, yeah, look.
Rima Labo.
jordan holmes
Rima Labo!
dan friesen
It's been a long time.
jordan holmes
We got laminations to do.
dan friesen
Yep.
I don't think she's selling that.
Or at least it doesn't come up.
I don't know if she's...
She probably is still selling those.
Don't laminate me, bro.
Cards.
Yeah.
Her interview is long.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And boring.
unidentified
But...
dan friesen
She is at least an interesting kind of crazy that exists in Alex's world.
It's been a long time since she's been on, and her husband was a stubblebine, a general stubblebine.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that grandfathers you in, literally, on a lot of accounts.
dan friesen
Yeah, you know, you got Stella Emanuel coming on to talk vaccine nonsense, and you're like, alright, whatever.
But then you get Rima Labo coming on also to talk vaccine nonsense.
Oh boy.
jordan holmes
Now you got the makings of a show.
dan friesen
Now we're talking.
Principle in comedy of, like, you do something twice, it's funny.
Three times, it's funny.
Four times, not funny.
Five times, back to funny.
jordan holmes
Rick effect.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's that same thing.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Too much, like, Alex by himself, a lot of vaccine, anti-vax nonsense.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Stella Manuel, too much anti-vax nonsense.
jordan holmes
Way too much.
dan friesen
Now you add Remalebo on top of that.
jordan holmes
It's interesting again.
Now we got chaos.
We don't know what kind of anti-vaccine nonsense we're going to get.
dan friesen
So in the middle of the show, Alex learns that RFK Jr. is running.
alex jones
They just told me during the break that Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who is running against Biden, that's got the deep state very upset, is officially making his announcement in Boston.
And so we're going to take you to that.
Again, it was live a few minutes ago.
We're backing it up to the start and the live feed going to air some of this.
Here it is.
dan friesen
Alex, taking one of his, like, he got very excited to be able to, like, just play this speech, take a little time off on air, listen to Robert Kennedy Jr.
Talk shit.
jordan holmes
Somebody get me a little glass of Red Solo cup.
Come on, get over here.
We got time.
I like that RFK appeals to people who are sick of political dynasties and the same aristocratic families taking over.
It's really what I'm interested in.
It's a real outsider, you know?
dan friesen
Yeah, Hillary is disqualified because she was married to...
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
No more of these political dynasties.
We don't want them.
dan friesen
Kennedy.
jordan holmes
He's in.
dan friesen
Alex actually rationalizes why...
unidentified
Ow!
dan friesen
Well, he says that Robert Kennedy Jr. is great because none of the other Kennedys are at his announcement.
jordan holmes
Yeah, sure, sure.
dan friesen
That's how you know he's good.
jordan holmes
Fine, fine, fine.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Whatever you need, man.
dan friesen
So, anyway, the speech feed that they're using is really trash, and so Alex realizes, I can't play this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is trash.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
Okay, we're going to leave this feed because Fox was carrying it.
It had good audio, but then cut it.
And RFK Jr. running for president is a big damn deal.
He's already ahead of Biden many polls.
And so it should be on every channel in the country.
But of course it's not.
We're going with some amateur feed of the live feed.
So once we get a HD feed with good audio, you better believe we'll be airing excerpts.
dan friesen
That's not like...
It's your fault that you don't have a good feed of it.
jordan holmes
I'm not mad at the amateur crew.
I'm not mad at the amateur crew.
dan friesen
That argument that Alex is making is so weak that he doesn't even sound like he's convinced himself that RFK is winning in any of the polls.
He just announced his candidacy, so there isn't a ton of data on this, but the University of New Hampshire just did a poll that came out on Thursday about the potential primary challengers, and here's how it looks.
Biden is the top first choice with 25% of the vote.
After that is Bernie with 17 and Michelle Obama with 10. Some interesting choices like AOC come in at like 4%, and then RFK Jr. is polling at about 2%.
Things get worse for him when you look at the data for second-choice candidates.
Pete Buttigieg and Michelle Obama top that list with 17% and 16% respectively, and RFK Jr. is sitting at 1%.
The poll also found that RFK Jr. has the second highest rate of unfavorability among likely Democratic voters, beaten only by Marianne Williamson, which seems a little surprising.
I don't know what she did to make everyone hate her so much.
jordan holmes
Oh, she sucks.
dan friesen
I'm sure she does, but that much?
jordan holmes
She just sucks.
dan friesen
A lot of unfavorability.
jordan holmes
She just sucks.
dan friesen
All right.
He has a 15% favorability and a 37% unfavorability rating, so that puts him at a net negative 22 favorability.
jordan holmes
He's literally less popular than COVID.
COVID is more popular than he is.
dan friesen
He and Marianne Williamson are the only two who have negative favorability ratings.
jordan holmes
Ouch.
dan friesen
It's not looking good.
jordan holmes
That's going to be tough.
dan friesen
This is a brazen lie on Alex's part, but this tracks with how Alex creates his false reality.
Everything that he supports has to be the most popular thing because...
He's always right.
If he likes RFK Jr., then he must be leading in the polls because Alex wouldn't like someone who is unpopular.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would be crazy.
dan friesen
Proves itself.
jordan holmes
That would be crazy.
dan friesen
He's beating Biden in the polls.
jordan holmes
I mean, I just...
dan friesen
Maybe on Infowars.com.
Maybe if you put up a poll on his site or some dumb shit on Twitter, like some right-wing asshole put up a Twitter poll.
Maybe then.
jordan holmes
I don't even know.
It's like the way he views the world entirely is like anything popular has to be subverted or taken over by the globalists, by the small.
So by nature of something being popular or unpopular, it has been taken away from their power?
Does that make sense?
Sort of.
I'm trying to understand how you can get to a point where you can just say something like...
RFK Jr., he's already ahead of Biden in the polls.
Purely based on, I prefer him over Biden.
dan friesen
You just have no respect for the audience.
I don't give a shit.
I'll just tell them whatever I want.
jordan holmes
Sure, I mean, but how do you think it?
dan friesen
You know what's funny?
Well, I guess he just wants it to be...
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Here is what...
Well, actually, I mean, because Alex has a sort of standing talking point that is Biden's approval ratings are like three.
Sure, sure, that's true.
jordan holmes
So anybody is outpolling Biden in some polls.
dan friesen
If you follow the logic of Infowars, yes.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
I would love it if he was bound to actually go by the polls.
But we'll give him this one.
So RFK is leading Biden in the polls, imaginarily.
And then he has to talk about the other polls that come out.
unidentified
Drop.
dan friesen
A precipitous drop off a cliff.
And then try to explain that.
That would be fun.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That would be fun.
jordan holmes
Either that or he has to give exact polling results for a bunch of different questions, including, like, okay, fine.
In this poll, RFK Jr. is winning over Biden.
Okay, what other questions did the poll ask?
Are we in an interdimensional battle between aliens and Anunnaki?
Yes.
Well, apparently we're there, too.
dan friesen
You gotta throw out the data.
jordan holmes
This is not a good poll.
dan friesen
So I think...
I mean, I was thinking about it, and I would say that this is perfect for Alex.
He should go all in on RFK Jr.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because it gives him an opportunity to pretend that he's above the left-right paradigm by backing a Democrat or someone who's in the Democratic primary.
jordan holmes
I guess, yeah.
dan friesen
So that would give him the illusion of not being partisan and all this shit, which would be great.
His audience clearly fucking hates Trump at this point because of vaccine stuff.
So he can't really...
navigate that water super well, whereas RFK Jr. is a staunch anti-vax hero, so he would be perfect to sort of be a salve on those burns, and he has no fucking shot!
jordan holmes
None.
dan friesen
So it would be perfect, in the same way that Ron Paul was perfect for those years.
There's this optimism and this hope that's never going to come to pass.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but you know, once you get that taste of the halls of power...
Of being able to call and talk to the President of the United States.
It's tough to go back.
dan friesen
But you have to.
jordan holmes
You have to.
Of course.
dan friesen
You have to if you want to.
jordan holmes
You and I are talking.
We agree on this.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's just tough.
It's tough.
dan friesen
I understand.
It's addicting.
Power.
Wonder Woman.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Stella Emanuel comes on.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
To talk about this.
And we got kind of saved by the bell on this one.
alex jones
And she's Dr. Stella Emanuel, a very successful medical doctor and one of the first people to be outspoken about what was really happening with COVID.
Now they're blocking therapeutics and her famous press conferences there in D.C., DrStellaMD.com.
But I wanted to get her on to decipher this.
And what she told my producer she thought was happening is what I thought, but I wanted to get a medical doctor on.
FDA, Pfizer, and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines are no longer authorized new protocols announced, but that's the monovalent.
Now, what's really behind that?
Here's the actual press release.
From the FDA, coronavirus COVID-19 update, FDA authorizes changes to simplify use of biovalent mRNA COVID-19 vaccines.
So they're basically banning the original ones, saying you need the new ones.
Admittedly, all of them didn't work, but of course the new ones don't work in the ways they say either.
We also have the UN treaty to take over our national health care system and confirmed.
Big Agra has been putting mRNA since 2018 mainly in pigs.
We'll get her take on that, so I'm going to try to just go through these points quickly.
Doctor, explain what you think is really happening here.
unidentified
I think that that's just, you know, what happened.
alex jones
Doc, we're going to try to reconnect with you.
jordan holmes
That's a more coherent answer than I'm used to hearing from Eric.
alex jones
We don't have more technical difficulties in one show than we have in two months.
It's just kind of when it rains, it pours.
dan friesen
Yeah, and it is just cats and dogs out there.
jordan holmes
That is pouring.
dan friesen
Yep.
So that doesn't work.
They get her on the phone and it's a boring interview, so we're not going to listen to any of that.
But I do enjoy that kind of ride.
jordan holmes
It's always good.
dan friesen
Long preamble.
And while he's waiting to get reconnected with her, he goes back to this pig thing.
They're ejecting the pig.
jordan holmes
We just can't handle not having...
The pigs have got stuff in them.
dan friesen
Well, yeah.
And the reason for that is because these people who are like real COVID vaccine conspiracists...
They believe that there's now, the next stage is to vaccinate these animals, so they have the mRNA in them, and then you eat them, and then it gets you.
jordan holmes
Is that how it works?
dan friesen
No, but that's what they think, and that's where we're going with it.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
So Alex talks about this a little bit, and I want to play this as a real case study of manipulation.
alex jones
Pork producers have been using customized mRNA-based vaccines on their herds since 2018.
There's no laws that's being done without telling the public.
All customized mRNA vaccines are untested.
Only the mRNA platform itself has been approved, and that's with the so-called COVID shots.
That's an emergency authorization.
dan friesen
This is a great illustrative moment to focus on.
What's happening here is that Alex is cold reading this article and in the moment he realizes he doesn't actually know what this story is about and he recognizes that if he doesn't force it this might not fit into the storyline that he's already established for the article.
So he just makes shit up.
He says that the platform here has been approved but he knows that he has no idea what that means so he just lies and says that the platform that's being referenced is the COVID vaccine.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's an emergency authorization.
jordan holmes
Makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
In reality, it's this Sequivity platform.
This is the service where they can collect pathogens from your sick animals and create customized bespoke vaccines, usually in 8 to 12 weeks.
That platform, the custom vaccine process that Sequivity uses, has been approved.
And that's what this article is talking about.
But Alex doesn't know that because he hasn't read the article and he's not curious at all.
So he just lies to the audience.
in order to be able to connect it to COVID.
He's further lying, saying that these resulting custom vaccines are mRNA vaccines, conflating that with the platform itself, which uses RNA technology to create usually modified live virus vaccines.
Right.
unidentified
This article that Alex is reading is...
dan friesen
Right.
I believe this is probably the Mercola site.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
But Alex hasn't read it.
So as he skims along live on air, he needs to make things up that sound like they fit with what he imagines the article would say.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
When the article itself is a conspiracy, but it might not be the right fit.
jordan holmes
He's too lazy to use his own bullshit.
Well, I mean, let's put it this way.
Because he doesn't prepare, he has to improv.
A existing conspiracy theory to fit it within his conspiracy theory.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
As we go along.
dan friesen
Right.
And there's a part of me that thinks that probably explaining this RNA platform that's able to be used to create these vaccines on demand for pigs, maybe Alex isn't up to the challenge of explaining that to the audience without them yelling witchcraft.
jordan holmes
I believe it, because honestly, that sounds like witchcraft.
It sounds fucking cool.
I wish I knew that that existed.
dan friesen
Yeah, apparently since 2018.
That's crazy!
Maybe even longer than that.
jordan holmes
That's crazy!
dan friesen
So, Rima Labo's coming on.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And her claim to fame, other than being married to the now-deceased General Stubblebine, is that she was on an episode of Jesse Ventura's show, Conspiracy Theory.
jordan holmes
Ah, okay.
dan friesen
And she was on that episode because Alex recommended her.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
And if I were Jesse Ventura, this would be the end of a friendship.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because this episode...
It's lousy with Alex's friends.
You've got Daniel Estelin.
Oh, no.
You've got David Icke.
You've got Rima Labo.
You've got Stanley Monteith.
It's just nothing but Alex's buddies.
jordan holmes
It's just a murderer's row of shitheads.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think John Ronson's actually in there, too, which is unfortunate, because the rest of them are...
jordan holmes
What are you going to do?
dan friesen
Well, it's an episode about secret societies, and he has some...
You know, some actual information to provide on that front.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you have a straight man.
dan friesen
So Alex plays a clip of Rima on Jesse Ventura.
unidentified
You've left the United States of America.
rima laibow
Yes, sir, I have.
unidentified
Why?
rima laibow
I do not feel safe living in the United States.
unidentified
Really?
jordan holmes
Do you want to come and sit down?
rima laibow
No, sir.
I'd rather not.
unidentified
You'd rather just be here so you can make a fast exit if you have to?
rima laibow
As soon as you and I finish?
I'm leaving the country again.
Why?
dr rima laibow
Because in a very short time, not today, not tomorrow, but very soon, we'll be We're facing compulsory vaccination under the mistaken term of voluntary vaccination.
unidentified
Are you talking to me now about the current swine flu?
rima laibow
I am.
unidentified
Now, what is it about these vaccinations?
You think that they're bad?
dr rima laibow
Well, first of all, let's start with the fact that the World Health Organization has decided that we have 90% too many people.
jordan holmes
We don't have to start there.
dan friesen
No.
But does Alex not realize that that clip was really damaging to his goal of building up Rima's credibility?
Yeah.
She's talking about the swine flu.
jordan holmes
That was how long ago?
dan friesen
She was wrong.
How long ago was that?
2000...
Yeah.
Honestly, she sounds like an intensely paranoid person and probably like someone who's good fodder for a conspiracy TV show, but not someone you really want to take seriously.
She comes off not as a good source.
She agreed to meet with Jesse Ventura at a hangar in the Midwest, but wouldn't come in because she has to fly back because she's so afraid for her life.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's nice drama.
I'm going to go ahead and say she probably went to Denny's afterwards.
dan friesen
By playing.
unidentified
Yeah, I don't think that was a big escape.
dan friesen
No, I doubt it.
jordan holmes
Compulsory vaccinations, Dan.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
2009.
2009 for swine flu.
dan friesen
Yeah, they played this game over and over again quite a bit.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Yep, yep.
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So, Alex gives Rima quite an introduction.
She is the consummate whistleblower.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The ultimate whistleblower.
jordan holmes
Oh, man, we're all going to sound stupid whenever we have to salute President RFK Jr.
dan friesen
Uh-huh, and the Secretary of Health and Human Services, Rima Labo.
jordan holmes
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
alex jones
Dr. Rima Labo, MD, she's a famous doctor.
She invented many of the most used treatments today.
She's a scientist, and again, her husband was Albert Stubblebein.
You should go look him up.
You want to understand how these people are the ultimate...
I'm just confused.
dan friesen
I don't know what she's invented.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Is she a scientist?
I don't know.
jordan holmes
She's a scientist.
dan friesen
I looked it up.
I couldn't find any evidence that she's invented anything.
jordan holmes
What science has she done?
dan friesen
A lot of science.
jordan holmes
But, I mean, like, in what capacity?
dan friesen
She sells nano-silver.
That's all I know for sure.
jordan holmes
See, that's not...
I feel like that's not the same thing as being a scientist.
dan friesen
Well, you gotta take silver and make it nano.
jordan holmes
Make it tiny.
That does require science.
If that's the case, then I suppose...
If she can nano-ize silver...
I concede.
I concede the point.
dan friesen
So the interview actually gets off to a little bit of a contentious start.
And that is because Alex says that Stubblebine died.
unidentified
And this is a point of contention.
alex jones
Maybe you should start at the beginning, how you discovered this.
Your husband obviously couldn't get into a lot of it because of national security, but he knew and agreed what you were saying, said, look, it's real, this is the plan.
So you couldn't have somebody better than you two treating heads of state, them confiding in you.
You knew the gun was loaded in 2009.
They were thinking about doing it then.
They backed off for a while.
And so this is so important.
Thank you for joining us.
So where would you like to begin first?
rima laibow
Alex, first I want to thank you for having me.
It is a pleasure to see you again and to talk with you and your audience.
I want to correct two things that you said, if I may, because I'm always able to jump in and offend somebody.
I hope I don't offend you.
First of all, General Burt didn't simply die.
He was murdered.
And since his murder, he actually finally died after they spent a long time trying to kill him.
I'm sorry?
He died in 2017, and since that time, there have been nine serious, credible attempts on my life.
unidentified
Obviously, we're right over the target.
dan friesen
General Stubblebine was not murdered, and I don't believe there have been credible threats on Remo's life.
She's adopted this accusation of murder because it's part of her attempt to sue the doctors in the hospital where Stubblebine passed away, which was a case that was thrown out in 2021.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that tracks.
dan friesen
Stubblebine was 87 years old, and he fell ill in 2017.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He was in the hospital from September 1st, 2016 to January 4th, 2017, before being transferred to another facility until he passed on February 6th, 2017.
All told, that's like four months in the hospital, which seems indicative of a pretty serious condition, particularly considering that the people who would have needed to consent for him to be there are him and Rima, two people who hate.
Yeah.
Yeah.
speaks fucking volumes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was, he was, uh...
dan friesen
He was sick.
jordan holmes
He was dying.
Yeah.
unidentified
He was dying to the point where they were like, well, we have no choice But to go to a doctor.
dan friesen
It has to be.
jordan holmes
If anything, what's more likely is they both avoided going to the doctor for longer to the point where it probably hastened his demise.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, we can spitball theories about whatever it could be, but from all the indications that I can find, I mean, he's an 87-year-old man.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's, you know, people die at 87. Why murder him at 87?
Well, because he knows too much.
jordan holmes
But he already knew too much at 85. Right.
dan friesen
But when people get to the end of their life and they know too much, they gotta kill them.
Because they know that they're...
jordan holmes
You're worried about a deathbed confession.
So you gotta take them out.
You gotta make it look like an illness.
dan friesen
Right.
Three months after he was in the hospital.
Right.
Actually, Rima's gonna talk about it a little more.
She was fending off attempts on his life the whole time.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure.
unidentified
So...
jordan holmes
Hanging out over his bed like an angel.
dan friesen
This is not...
jordan holmes
Fighting off ninjas breaking through the windows.
dan friesen
This isn't exactly what...
That's what I expected the interview, first of all, to start out with.
jordan holmes
I mean...
dan friesen
You said my husband died?
No, he was murdered.
jordan holmes
Wrong.
Murder.
I do appreciate the injection of drama right away.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Told you.
It's exciting.
jordan holmes
Also, she's got a small bit of self-awareness that she still cannot avoid.
She's like, listen, I always jump in and correct people when I definitely don't need to.
dan friesen
And I piss them off.
jordan holmes
Anyways, here we go.
My husband was murdered.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Tell me he wasn't.
I dare you.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes
Yes, we'll get into a fight about it.
dan friesen
So Alex says that she tended to heads of state.
She was a doctor to heads of state.
So she's talking about that a little bit here.
unidentified
I'd like to begin with what turned me on to this line of thinking, very briefly.
rima laibow
I was treating a patient who happened to be a head of state, and one day she rather casually said, you know, it's almost time for the great culling to begin.
And I said, the what?
And she said, Cully!
unidentified
Wellness and self-care doesn't have to be complicated.
dan friesen
So Alex decided to skip commercial breaks, but I think GCN didn't.
And so it just went straight to commercial.
But I went and I listened to it.
There's nothing really, nothing in that commercial break that was really worth...
jordan holmes
Didn't reveal who it was.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
It wasn't Madeline Albright.
dan friesen
I was convinced it was Queen Elizabeth.
jordan holmes
I would have hoped for Queen Elizabeth.
dan friesen
Madeline Albright, at this time, 2002?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Would she have been a head of state?
jordan holmes
No.
But she would have been one who would tell you about the calling, right?
Madeline Albright would have told her doctor, watch out for being called.
I just believe that in my heart.
dan friesen
I'm a stickler for head of state, because she talks about the person as if they're royalty.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And so, obviously, my first thought was Queen Elizabeth, because that's just where you go.
jordan holmes
And, I mean, royalty's gonna call.
That's just what they do.
dan friesen
Right.
And Queen Elizabeth's so in the mix on those conspiracies.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
The other option, of course, Queen Beatrix.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Always fun to say Queen Beatrix.
dan friesen
Yeah, they do it a lot.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
Of course they do.
dan friesen
So we'll get down to more of my theories of who she might be talking about later.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because I did go through some possibilities.
jordan holmes
Okay, all right.
dan friesen
But that'll have to wait.
Yeah, it's really boring during the commercials, but they come back and she's still talking.
And I think this next clip...
jordan holmes
There's a hint of sadness here.
They come back and she's still talking.
dan friesen
She is.
She's still talking.
jordan holmes
Mid-sentence, it comes back from break.
dan friesen
But this next clip I really think should show you she's not a good doctor.
rima laibow
The deaths are predictable.
What's not predictable is whether it's going to be you or you or you.
But the sudden adult death syndrome, which, by the way, when I first heard, I laughed at because I thought it was a joke.
I thought, no, no, no one could be saying this seriously, but they are.
And people say, oh, well, now we have children having heart attacks.
We have...
Fit players on the field of play having heart attacks, and it's just an undiagnosed cardiac event.
Right.
Professional football players and soccer players world over and tennis players haven't had good physicals.
alex jones
There was an event a few months ago in high school basketball where in the same town two different players had heart attacks, one died.
I mean, normally one high school basketball player has a heart attack a year.
It's huge news.
Now it's two in a town in one week.
rima laibow
And it's anything but the vaccines.
We understand that.
dan friesen
I don't know what Alex is talking about.
I couldn't find that story.
But Rima sounds like a real incompetent doctor here.
I don't think I would want my physician or someone I was taking health advice from to lean so strongly into feelings about anecdotal stories that may or may not even be accurate.
That approach seems pretty useless.
Also, it seems like she's not a very good doctor if she thinks that sudden adult death syndrome is new.
That's just an easier way that people have taken to saying sudden arrhythmic death syndrome, which is a phenomenon that's been studied for years and has nothing to do with COVID
A 2014 review indicated that, quote, Oh, that does seem, if it's a known factor, it does seem like they should be aware of it, you know?
I mean, it's published in a review that's easy to find from 2014.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it doesn't seem like it would be too difficult to figure that one out.
dan friesen
Nope.
I wouldn't think so.
Sorry.
They're full of shit.
Yeah.
Is the long and short of it.
She sounds like a really bad doctor.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Bad doctor, like that Will Ferrell sketch.
Bad doctor.
jordan holmes
Okay, so if she is treating heads of state with advice like, did you hear that more stuff is happening compared to the past when we were kids?
The things that we're just remembering off the top of our heads?
dan friesen
Did you see this tweet?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
How about this meme?
Have you seen this meme?
dan friesen
Queen Beatrix, let me show you this tweet.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
So, Rima has not talked to Alex for a long time.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
And presumably, she hasn't watched the show either because it's trash.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But back then, back when she used to know him, the big villains were the Bilderberg group.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
And she has every reason to assume that they're still the big villains.
jordan holmes
Yeah, why not?
dan friesen
So she has news for Alex.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
They're not the big villains.
rima laibow
It's been planned, and the name that you should keep in mind for the planning system is not Bilderberger.
And it's not Illuminati.
I said, Alex, that I was going to disagree with you on two things.
One was that General Burt was murdered.
He didn't just die.
And the second is it's not the Bilderbergers.
The Bilderbergers are middle management.
The actual source of the evil, the organization, the destruction, comes from John D. Rockefeller Sr.
And his son, John D. Rockefeller Jr., before the turn of the 20th century.
dan friesen
How disappointing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's weak.
That's weak.
dan friesen
Oh, my big reveal.
It's the Rockefellers.
jordan holmes
It's the same guy.
Okay.
All right.
If you got a big reveal, it's got to be like, it can't be like, oh, we've taken the mask off of the Scooby-Doo villain, and it was the Bilderberg group.
unidentified
Aha!
jordan holmes
But we took the mask off again.
It actually was the clown.
It was a real ghost.
It was a real ghost.
dan friesen
It's like that WCW moment where Sting, there was a fake Sting for a while.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
That the NWO was bringing out.
Okay.
Fake Sting.
jordan holmes
Everybody knew it was fake?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
And so Sting.
Wore a Sting mask and pretended to be fake Sting.
jordan holmes
Nice.
dan friesen
And he took off the Sting mask and it was Sting underneath!
jordan holmes
Oh my god!
unidentified
Oh my god!
dan friesen
That's a better reveal than this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is a much better reveal.
That's if you went to a Doom concert and Doom was actually beneath the mask.
You were like, holy shit, this is the most exciting day of my life!
dan friesen
Actually, Victor Von Doom?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, Rima gets to laying out what actually happened with General Stubbleby.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And this is the murder plot.
rima laibow
When Fukushima happened, we decided that since there would never again be low radiation to organic or biodynamic or any other kind in the Northern Hemisphere, because Fukushima is the U.S.-generated gift that keeps on giving, we went to Chile and were in the process of setting up a...
Commercial-sized organic low-radiation food supply for the Northern Hemisphere.
I did not yet have my medical center open there.
General Burt needed some intravenous nutrition and some access orthogonal chiropractic and some acupuncture and acupressure and stuff like that, good stuff that wasn't yet available in South and Central America.
So we came back to the United States for a quick visit.
He was poisoned with an intravenous injection, I believe, and that night...
He collapsed, and I had a choice.
There on the bathroom floor of our friend's home, I could allow him to die in my arms, or I could take him into the belly of the beast, knowing that the hospital system would do its best to dispatch him.
dan friesen
That's a weird story.
jordan holmes
Okay, if I understand correctly, he's dying.
So she decided to take him to a place where they were going to kill him.
dan friesen
Slower.
jordan holmes
Is that what she just said?
dan friesen
Sort of.
But I think that there's an implication that if she took him to the belly of the beast, there might be a way that she could fight through their attempts to kill him.
jordan holmes
See, that's what I'm...
I'm wondering if, in her mind, this is a scenario where they're both on equal...
Like, it's just a game.
You know, like, hey, listen.
You've gotta try and kill him.
But you also still have to do your job of healing him.
And I have to stop you from killing him.
dan friesen
Well, that's why she sued him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, right?
dan friesen
Tried to sue them.
jordan holmes
Like, what are we doing here?
dan friesen
I don't know.
It's very weird.
jordan holmes
That's strange.
That's a strange thought process.
He's gonna die.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's not immortal.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, anyway, I find it interesting the way that she's saying that, you know, they're down there.
Yeah.
thing that he needs.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
He just needs all these other, these homeopathic things.
All the good stuff.
Right.
unidentified
Not like he had...
dan friesen
Uh, I don't know.
jordan holmes
Our problem with Chili's medical system is there wasn't enough bullshit there.
We had to fly all the way back to the United States to really cram his body with nonsense.
dan friesen
You usually hear that from people who have to come to America for medical care.
Whenever they need acupuncture, they have to fly over.
jordan holmes
Oh, we gotta get back to the United States, otherwise we won't get the best acupuncture.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Strange.
So, he...
Was poisoned through an intravenous tube or something.
jordan holmes
What about the acupuncture?
dan friesen
She thinks.
What?
jordan holmes
Couldn't they have put poison on the needles in the acupuncture?
dan friesen
I mean, it's right there.
It's a needle.
jordan holmes
That seems like the obvious place to do it.
dan friesen
If I were Poirot, that would be one of my theories.
jordan holmes
That would be the way we would start.
dan friesen
My little gray cells would be thinking it may be those needles.
So yeah, he collapses and she decides, gotta take him to the hospital.
rima laibow
I called an ambulance, and for 158 days, while the medical system attempted to kill him, quite literally, and I'm a physician, this is not just a grieving wife speaking, this is a physician knowing precisely what was done and not done, I fended off.
The monsters who were trying to kill him, retrieving him, had to go to court to demand that the hospital, General Burt was ambulatory at the time, and they were denying him food and nutrition and nutrients.
I went to court about that, and ultimately, a doctor walked into his room, plunged a needle in...
To either his femoral artery or his femoral vein, I don't know which, injected something.
General Burt went into a coma and was taken to the ICU where...
alex jones
Hold on, we've got to join some stations, but start over a little bit when we come back, because I know the inside baseball.
I've studied it.
Somebody that knows all the secrets.
He was at the highest levels of the deep state.
Especially before they die, they're scared that they're going to say things when they get older, so they generally kill guys that even serve them and don't turn against them like he did.
He was never with them, but he was at the highest levels.
And so this fits into a pattern I've seen.
dan friesen
Yeah, a pattern that Alex has seen.
This fits it.
People who are 87 years old and have been in the hospital for a few months, they've got to take them out.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they've got to take them out.
I'm thinking, for me, with people's track records, there are some people who get to say words and then I just move on.
And then there are some people who should have to stop and explain themselves.
So, for instance, if I were to say, or if you, Dan, if you were like, Oh, these monsters at the hospital were trying to kill them.
I would know in your mind you were metaphorically describing the staff or the people there as people doing monstrous things.
I don't know if she is not being literal.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, she is, I think, being literal.
That, like, whether by negligence or by active decisions that they made, they were trying to kill him.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But you're saying, like, she might be little to the goblins.
jordan holmes
Does she think they're monsters?
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
I need her to explain.
dan friesen
I think they're human monsters.
jordan holmes
I agree that that is most likely the truth.
dan friesen
Yeah, you can't take much for granted, though.
jordan holmes
Not with her.
dan friesen
Nope.
So, I mean, look, on a human level, I feel for someone's loss.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
You know, like, it's sad.
And you lose your partner and all that, and I don't want to mock or belittle that, but this is a bit much.
I have to say, this murder plot is, I don't know if I buy it.
But it does fit in with so much of the hero mythologizing that a lot of folks in Alex's world do.
jordan holmes
I would say this.
I would say this.
Either, there's two ways to go, right?
You can go with General Stubblebine.
Hoofed it out, you know?
158 days.
He fought to the bitter end.
Or you could say, these globalist poisoners, not that good!
Not that good at their jobs.
dan friesen
It took them that long.
jordan holmes
That is too long to poison somebody.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's quite a while.
jordan holmes
You've seen a dentist poison his wife over like a week.
I mean, they don't even have globalist powers.
They're just dentists.
dan friesen
Yeah, and she can't be like hovering over him 24 hours a day.
unidentified
No!
dan friesen
She's human.
She's got to sleep.
jordan holmes
She's got to sleep.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And they don't.
They're monsters.
dan friesen
Right.
And when the monster has to go take a nap, Gargoyle takes over.
jordan holmes
Gargoyle takes over!
dan friesen
So, lest you forget, Rima was in that episode of Jesse Ventura's show.
jordan holmes
Oh, I forgot.
dan friesen
Man, a lot of fallout.
A lot of fallout from that episode.
alex jones
She's about to lay out what's coming next.
She started predicting what was coming with absolute accuracy back in 2009 here on this show and a show we produced together with Jesse Ventura.
That has been super viral since, despite the fact that Deep State literally tried to suppress it, and I'm not supposed to get into it, because I signed a disclosure agreement, but people on the set got killed after this came out.
unidentified
They got threatened to never do it again, and they pulled it off the DVRs.
alex jones
The episode sees in, they went completely ape over it, because it slipped out, had top ratings, and we all know what happened after that, but she was getting into it.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't believe any of that.
The episode of Ventura's show that they're talking about is Season 1, Episode 5, and according to what people say online, while the other episodes of the show were aired in reruns, this one only played once.
And I couldn't believe that, but mostly because it's a really embarrassing episode of television.
It's entirely about the Bilderberg Group, who apparently Rima now thinks are just middle management, and the show relies on the testimony of complete lunatics like Daniel Estelin and editors of Nazi publications like Big Jim Tucker, and David Icke is in there too.
I could see someone not wanting to re-air this.
Not because it's so dangerous to the man, but because it's a bunch of shit.
I went back and I watched this episode, and man, there is no other word for it than embarrassing.
It's so overly dramatized, and Jesse is clearly just going through the motions.
But one thing that I thought was interesting was that when Rima is being interviewed, she tells her story about treating the head of state.
Apparently, this happened in 2002, and it was a female head of state who was not Queen Elizabeth and not Queen Beatrice.
She specifically says that.
There were very few female heads of state in 2002.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, that seems readable.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The Prime Minister of Sao Tomien Prisip was a woman.
I can tell you that.
And the Prime Minister and Governor General of New Zealand.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Those were women.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
If I had to guess, she might be talking about the then Prime Minister of Panama, Mariela Moscoso.
Rima was living in Panama at the time.
That would make sense.
I think that she's still making this up, but it could just be like...
This is the head of state in the place where I live?
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
It's sort of like local C bias.
jordan holmes
Like treating the mayor of Chicago and calling them the head of state.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know, I mean, yeah.
dan friesen
It's really funny, though, the idea that if you were going to say a female head of state in 2002 was, like, going to reveal the globalist plans, it would have to be Queen Elizabeth or Queen Beatrix.
jordan holmes
It's got to be a queen.
dan friesen
It can't be the head of Panama.
It can't be the short-time head of state in Panama.
jordan holmes
It just can't.
It just can't.
It's got to be one of the big ones.
Because we're talking about the big world.
We're not talking about, oh, they're taking out South America, in which case maybe you let the head of state of Panama know, shit, you're about to get the blowback, right?
But we're talking worldwide population.
That requires top globalist access.
And that's queen shit.
dan friesen
I panicked because I thought maybe Angela Merkel was still in power at that point.
But she didn't come in until 2005.
jordan holmes
Wow.
She was in since 2005?
dan friesen
She was quite a while.
But yeah, so I just was like, who is it?
But it's also academic because I think she's making it up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
Also, she didn't say that the Rockefellers were above the Bilderberg group in that episode.
It's all about the Bilderberg group.
The whole thing.
But...
She does say that there's a mysterious group of seven men who are above them and make all the decisions.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
So it's a council of seven.
jordan holmes
All right.
I'm looking at the council of seven.
We've had the council of seven.
We've had the council of 12. Yep.
I think there was one that was...
dan friesen
There's that book, The Council of 300.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
The hierarchy.
The conspirators' hierarchy.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
John Coleman book.
jordan holmes
I chose an even number because I thought it would be funny for the book.
dan friesen
Well, The Council of 12 is the one that...
Alex has referenced before, where Bill Gates may or may not be a part of it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and he's either now kicked out or a middleman.
dan friesen
You don't want to go even.
jordan holmes
You'll never know.
dan friesen
You don't want to go even because it's like the Supreme Court.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
You don't want to tie.
jordan holmes
No, that's why it's funny.
dan friesen
Council of Seven, much better.
Yeah.
So they chopped off five.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Put them in that pit from Mortal Kombat, that spike pit.
They threw the other five down there.
jordan holmes
You know, here's a thought that I've been rolling around in my head for a while.
Maybe we need to spend more of our time going back, looking through all of the TV shows on the History Channel and shit like that, and seeing how many of those people are Nazis now, and then going back and being like, oh, what were the signs that we missed?
And we'll apply that towards making sure we don't put Nazis on the History Channel in the future.
dan friesen
Yeah, I can see that being a helpful thing to do.
jordan holmes
It doesn't seem to be happening, though.
dan friesen
But to be fair, I don't know if Rima is a Nazi, per se.
He's an anti-vex crank.
I can say that much, for sure.
jordan holmes
But, I mean, if you hang out in a Nazi rally...
dan friesen
And General Stubblebine did have a lot of fears about white genocide.
He was certainly pushing a lot of that back when he was on the show.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Hmm.
I mean, hey, listen, just because you're not holding your hand up doesn't mean that you're not at a Nazi rally.
dan friesen
So, General Stubblebine had a lot of secrets.
But get this, he never told Rima any of them.
alex jones
They were really scared of what he knew, because I know he wouldn't tell us on air, he would just say he were dead on, he knew it from his intel in the military.
Did he ever, I know people aren't supposed to talk about classified stuff, but we're well past that now, did he ever confide in you more information?
rima laibow
Never.
He never confided anything in me or anyone else that he believed was covered by security secrecy requirements.
Never.
He was a man of absolute conviction and total ethical centeredness.
alex jones
But he did say on air you were dead on and that you'd already figured it out.
rima laibow
Absolutely.
alex jones
So did you know you were married to a guy that knew all this, and then once you figured it out, he goes, yeah, honey, that's all true.
rima laibow
Actually, he learned most of what was going on about the deep state from me.
Because he had drunk the Kool-Aid.
His father was a West Point graduate.
He was a West Point graduate.
He believed he was fighting for good and truth and democracy and all that kind of...
alex jones
Sure, but once he shifted his perspective, then he could see what he was really saying.
rima laibow
Exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah, maybe you were manipulating a man who was...
In his later years.
Yeah.
If all of the information about the deep state came from her, and he never told her any of the deep secrets that he had from his time working within the government, I think a picture starts to take shape.
He's just sitting around, la la la, his wife comes in, hey.
A queen told me it's time for the culling.
jordan holmes
No shit!
unidentified
Alright, well, I mean, you wanna watch the match?
jordan holmes
No?
Okay.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's bleak.
jordan holmes
The idea that...
She shouldn't tell.
She shouldn't say that.
Now that he's dead, she should not say that he didn't tell her any classified information.
That was a bad move on her part.
I get why she's doing it.
I get that she's in her mind being like, no, I'm playing up how ethical and golden this man truly was.
dan friesen
And there is, within this genre...
There is an expectation that if you have secret information that you're not putting out, you're in danger.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Because they could get you.
So if she says that he told her all the information and then doesn't reveal it, then everyone's going to be like, what are you doing?
The pressure will be so great on her from people like Alex to like, you got to get it all out on her.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Like with Bob Chapman and the Pagan video.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
Yeah, we're never going to see that video.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
I doubt it.
I very much doubt it.
dan friesen
I would say I don't want to.
jordan holmes
I just, but I mean...
You've just revealed that you are...
You just revealed that you stole his credibility in order to sell your bullshit.
That's what you're saying.
You're saying that...
dan friesen
And her bullshit is nano-silver.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
dan friesen
And the government has repeatedly told her to stop.
jordan holmes
This is...
This is absurd!
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Oh, man, I don't like it when you tell me the scam.
That's rude.
That's rude.
dan friesen
It's a little rude.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So she rambles a bit here and then says she has a message to Yuval Harari.
rima laibow
They penetrated every government on the planet, and they created the science that would allow them to take control of our DNA, to turn us into parts of the Internet of Things, their servants, their...
underclass their intervention and leave them at the top the neo aristocrats this plan has been in operation waiting only the science of genetic manipulation post microwave transmission nanopathy All right, you're just saying words.
jordan holmes
You can end it with an et cetera.
rima laibow
Yuval Harari tells us what they're ready to do, to which I say...
Don't you dare.
jordan holmes
Don't you dare.
dan friesen
The rallying cry heard around the world at 7-Elevens across this great land.
jordan holmes
Don't you dare.
Don't you dare.
Oh, no.
Wait, oh, shit.
Oh, man.
dan friesen
If I were Harari, I'd be shaken.
jordan holmes
Oh, guys.
We were just about to go do some globalist evil, and we were going to commit all this murder.
But then I turned on Infowars out of the blue.
Do you know who was there?
unidentified
Who?
jordan holmes
Rima.
unidentified
Whoa.
jordan holmes
I don't even need to say her last name because you know her that well.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
There's Reba and Rima, the only two.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
All right?
And then she was like, oh, they're going to kill everybody.
I was like, yeah, that's totally our plan.
And then she said, don't you dare.
And I was like, whoa.
dan friesen
Whoa.
jordan holmes
And the tone?
Yeah.
It was intense.
dan friesen
Threatening.
jordan holmes
You've got to listen to it.
dan friesen
Don't you dare.
jordan holmes
It was a good line read.
It was a good line read.
dan friesen
So it turns out...
Rima does not like Trump.
jordan holmes
Don't you dare.
dan friesen
Alex, not super excited about that.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
alex jones
What do you think of Trump?
To be completely honest, because I don't know what to make of him.
He went along with the shots.
They're asking him in other ways.
What do you think is really going on with Trump?
jordan holmes
Pick a side, dude.
rima laibow
Not much.
My evaluation of Trump...
To be very frank, is that he is a self-interested, unprincipled manipulator who will do anything in order to have power, who will say anything, who will support any cause that he has advised is...
alex jones
I mean, I tend to agree with you, but if he's fighting with America, he thinks we're going to win, or is he trying to lead the opposition?
I mean, do you think he's in on it, though?
rima laibow
He's the most pro-vaccine president we've ever had, allegedly with a vaccine-injured child.
What does that tell you?
alex jones
Tells us a lot.
rima laibow
Tells you everything you need to know.
dan friesen
So Alex is trying to still maintain, like, some kind of a level of, like, eh, what about...
Yeah.
And she's like, no, fuck that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I appreciate that she's willing to say that's all you need to know.
I'm grateful.
For somebody saying the very obvious things that we told you about Trump 15 fucking years ago.
dan friesen
Well, and that Alex told his audience about Trump before he started supporting him.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Yes.
He's a con man.
He's a liar.
He's a manipulator.
jordan holmes
I'm glad we got there.
I'm glad we got there.
I don't know how many conversations we have that are like, well, yeah, obviously he's that.
Should we still support him?
And she's like, no, that is bad.
We know that, right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So there's obviously going to be another pandemic.
And so I guess on the conspiracy world, Marburg is the...
jordan holmes
Marburg.
dan friesen
That's the buzzword.
unidentified
Marburg.
dan friesen
Marburg.
jordan holmes
That's a bad buzzword.
alex jones
What do you think they're planning next with Marburg, all this stuff?
unidentified
Marburg.
alex jones
How do you think we stop them?
rima laibow
Approximately four people in the history of the world have died since the Marburg virus was identified.
And so Marburg is the next big thing.
No.
Perhaps, as I speculated when, actually before the rollout of the vaccine, perhaps the 5G signals, the pulse microwave signals, will be used to stimulate the nanotechnology to emulate the symptoms of Marburg.
How very interesting.
dan friesen
Very interesting.
jordan holmes
Very interesting.
dan friesen
So there have been some small localized outbreaks of Marburg lately in Equatorial Guinea and Tanzania.
So I guess that these anti-vex folks are gearing up to pretend that it's the next false flag medical thing.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
In the real world, Marburg was identified in 1967 and has killed way more than four people.
There was an ongoing outbreak in the Democratic Republic of Congo from 1998 to 2000, which led to 128 deaths.
83% of the people who contracted it.
Then between 2004 and 2005, there was an outbreak in Angola that killed 227 people, 90% of those who caught it.
Frequently, these outbreaks will begin with mine workers who go down into areas that are infested with bats, and then they may spread it to family members.
A lot of the time, there doesn't end up being large, wide community spread, which isn't something I can find a good explanation for, and honestly might come down to some luck.
In some of these cases.
Marburg is bad news.
It is like Ebola, and there is no known treatment for it.
Just because we've seen a few small pockets of cases abroad doesn't mean that we should panic, though.
But it's wise for medical professionals to keep an eye on those kinds of things, be aware of the situation, relay information responsibly.
It is something that places...
Maybe, hey, keep your eye out if there's any symptoms that look like this.
Be aware.
Head on a swivel, doctors.
But, like, it's not something that...
Outside of worlds like Alex and these shitheads, I don't know if I see people, like, throwing a bunch of panic around.
jordan holmes
I can't begin to describe, like...
That seems to me to be a fundamental misunderstanding of how many fucking people there are.
If there's a localized outbreak in Equatorial New Guinea, or something along those lines, if you say that to me, then I guarantee that within the past six months, there's been a small outbreak of something somewhere.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, there's always a small outbreak of something somewhere.
dan friesen
Yeah, and there's, you know, anybody who talks about Marburg, you know, whether it be these, you know, World Health Organization type pages, they are very prone to point out that there are probably cases that are never caught.
By any kind of radar, because it's something in some very local area in Africa, and that just never gets picked up on the radar.
jordan holmes
There's so many fucking people.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
There's so many.
Like, any news story, you have to think, like, if I am reading a news story, we can cover this number of people, total, with news.
If you're reading one news story, then there's got to be 20 of them exactly identical because there's so many goddamn people going on.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm not saying it's like simultaneously occurring.
dan friesen
At what level are you talking about the outbreak?
jordan holmes
I'm just talking about there's low-level shit going on all the time.
dan friesen
Yeah, maybe not constantly things that are like hemorrhagic viruses.
jordan holmes
No, absolutely not.
But it's like, oh, I just read the other day.
That there's a flesh-eating virus outbreak someplace.
I'm not like, oh, well, that's the new thing that the globalists are gonna fucking do.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know, it's like, in six months, there's gonna be an outbreak of something, you know?
dan friesen
No, I mean, as temperatures get warmer, there's going to be some stories about, like, flesh-eating bacteria.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
That are in swimming holes or whatever.
jordan holmes
Somebody got into a pond, and then they got into the thing, and it spread, and everybody's gonna be like, oh my god, is this the next new thing?
And it's like, it's always happening.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Ugh!
dan friesen
And to some extent, I think maybe they're...
Is a value now to, in the world that we live in, being aware of some of that?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Even if you're not a medical professional, just being aware of what kinds of circumstances exist within the world.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But at the same time, thinking about it too much or trying to trace patterns where they may not exist or that kind of stuff is just an unhealthy way to go about stuff.
jordan holmes
We're just not evolved for this shit.
Humans are not evolved to understand 7 billion other humans.
It's not a thing.
dan friesen
Well, but at least as it relates to Marburg, I have some real...
Really good advice.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Or actually good news.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's great.
dan friesen
And advice.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
Don't listen to this advice.
jordan holmes
Okay.
rima laibow
That was specifically what I suspected would happen, and now they're talking about Marburg virus being the next continuous, unstoppable contagion.
No, not really.
That's what immune systems are for.
And by the way, things like nano-silver, vitamin C, vitamin D, zinc.
You know, those terribly dangerous, difficult things that humanity has never known about before.
jordan holmes
Are you being sarcastic?
rima laibow
Stimulate the immune system and then you don't get sick.
dan friesen
So we talked about it on the last episode, but Remo was successfully sued in 2021 for fraudulently selling her nanosilver as a preventative measure or cure for COVID.
But I forgot to mention that there was a little more to that story.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
Remo was also selling nanosilver as a way to not get Ebola back in 2014, which got her a warning letter from the FDA.
She does this every time that there is a medical scare, real or imagined, because it's a really good con.
People are scared and want some sort of comfort against...
Potential threats, and you're providing that for them, but it's fake.
jordan holmes
It's the easiest con in the world.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, it's easier than the ball and cups.
Like, we're talking a scam.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's better than laminating cards.
jordan holmes
It's way better, yeah.
dan friesen
So Rima's solution to everything?
Gotta get out of that World Health Organization.
That WHO is no good.
And Alex has a good point.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
That is that Trump got out of it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And then she shoots him down.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
rima laibow
And the Death Star coming over the horizon.
To kill us all, or most of us, and enslave the rest of us is WHO, backed by the United Nations, and behind that, the international financial system, and behind that, the ultimate control system.
Well, the one that we have access to right now is WHO.
Ah, but you can't get out of WHO.
That can't be done.
Yeah, it can.
I've done quite a lot of research, and I have a white paper available on exactly how we do it.
And that's simple.
The head of state of any country in the world writes a letter, just writes a letter, and says, I'm not in your club anymore.
Our country isn't playing anymore.
And sends it to the Secretary General.
alex jones
And by the way, that's something Trump did good.
He pulled out of the WHO, but transferred the WHO power to Fauci.
rima laibow
No, worse than that.
Trump pulled out...
He said he was going to pull out of WHO, and then he took the money that we give to WHO, doubled it, and gave it to Gavi, which is Gates.
So that's not good.
That's not okay.
And that's part of the deceit that I'm talking about.
jordan holmes
I mean, truth, reality aside, I mean, if your argument is getting out of the World Health Organization is good, yeah.
Then he did do that.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You've conceded that point.
dan friesen
But then you double down on something bad.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Now, I respect that.
I respect that second part.
That is an important point, but you have also eliminated your own point, being that getting out of the World Health Organization is a cure.
dan friesen
Well, it's a thing that you need to do, but you also can't give more money to Gavi, too.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because then that does the good thing that you did.
jordan holmes
Now you're asking for two things.
dan friesen
Look, here's my issue.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I agree with you.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is all dumb.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The only thing that's important is the dynamic that's going on here.
And you can see Alex trying to insert positive things about Trump.
unidentified
Like, hey, maybe you did do the thing that you like.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
And you're being like, no, no, I don't like Trump!
dan friesen
Yeah, you're not going to get me to like him.
And Alex just has hidden a wall.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so this is probably pretty frustrating, disappointing.
Not the way you want an interview to go.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And so he's like, hey, Robert Kennedy Jr. just announced he's running.
How about that guy?
He's an anti-facts weirdo.
jordan holmes
How are we doing?
dan friesen
You've got to like him.
jordan holmes
Let's see what happens.
dan friesen
We're going to find agreement.
rima laibow
When you asked me in the previous segment, what do I think of Trump?
The answer is, I would love to have a politician seeking power and authority who was a principled person, but I don't see that.
alex jones
What do you think of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.?
rima laibow
Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and I have never gone public with this feeling.
jordan holmes
Hello?
rima laibow
Sucks all the air out of the environment.
He's powerful.
He's well funded.
He's well placed.
The changes that should be coming, should have come through all that air, all that oxygen, all that capacity have not come.
I am extremely skeptical.
Show me I'm wrong, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., please.
Show me I'm wrong and that you are not a fifth columnist, a dark horse, obscuring the reality and acting as controlled opposition.
Prove me wrong.
Damn!
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Yep.
I mean, look.
jordan holmes
Coming in hot.
dan friesen
I think this is all nonsense and what have you, but within the narrative and within that worldview, she does make a good point.
And that is, he's a fucking Kennedy.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
He's super rich.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
He's very famous.
jordan holmes
You got it.
dan friesen
Has a lot of resources at his disposal.
You'd think that he'd be able to achieve more by this point if he was going to.
jordan holmes
It might.
dan friesen
So, I can understand where she's coming from as having some kind of a skepticism about him.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, why isn't Moore done?
Why aren't vaccines all banned?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
If anybody should do it, it should be you, Kennedy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're a Kennedy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You're literally the American aristocracy.
dan friesen
Right.
So the idea that he's controlled opposition, he's, as Alex would put it, the Judas goat.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Leading people along.
So Alex has got to be pretty disappointed to hear that.
jordan holmes
So here's my question to you, all right?
Based upon everything that we've heard all of these people talk about in terms of what they want in a politician, I find it hilarious that they only have super-duper rich, well-connected people as their choices.
Like, how fucking stupid are all of you that you're like, ah, we're gonna get rid of these people in power.
The only people you have are billionaires with a shit ton of money!
dan friesen
They're telling on themselves a little bit.
Maybe what they...
What I think they want isn't what they actually want, and they should check in on that a little.
jordan holmes
Come on, think about it.
Just think about it.
Look at what you have.
dan friesen
Hey, but hold on.
You're saying they're all billionaires.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's an elephant in the room.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
And his name is Ron DeSanctimonious.
jordan holmes
The Harvard educated, the Yale educated, well-connected rich guy.
dan friesen
You make a good point there.
But anyway.
Maybe we should hear what Rima has to say about him.
unidentified
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And you can kind of get a vibe that Alex is getting a little pissed off.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
alex jones
I respect your opinion.
What do you think of DeSantis?
rima laibow
DeSantis has done some things that I agree with.
His Surgeon General in Florida has been supported well.
DeSantis has come out against the insanity of the institutionalized transgender races.
I appreciate that, but the rest of DeSantis' policies are not ones that I appreciate.
alex jones
All right, well said.
jordan holmes
Like what?
alex jones
Dr. Rima Lemos, stay there.
PreventUnicide2030.org.
We're going to come back.
You're going to host the next segment.
Powerful information.
Then, coming up in the fourth hour, we have Paul Joseph Watson.
All right.
So definitely look for that straight ahead.
dan friesen
He seems a little deflated, a little frustrated.
jordan holmes
Not a lot of excitement there.
dan friesen
Well, because I think one of the things that I'm vibing on here is that she's being what Alex thinks he is.
She's like, now fuck all these guys.
No.
I have a zealotry to me, and I will not compromise on this shit.
jordan holmes
I am anti-vaccine, and that means something to me.
And so when something is in conflict with that, I choose the anti-vax over anything.
dan friesen
And Trump...
Too vexy.
jordan holmes
Too vexy?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
The end!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No middle ground!
dan friesen
Robert Kennedy Jr., hey, a lot of great lip service, but what have you done for me lately, Robert Kennedy Jr.?
Maybe you're not actually anti-vex.
Maybe you're not true with your positions.
jordan holmes
I would definitely believe that.
dan friesen
Now, granted, it is really mysterious how people who are in the same field as you, but way, way, way, way, way more popular and successful and accepted into society.
They're always controlled opposition.
That is a little bit suspicious.
jordan holmes
It does happen that way.
dan friesen
But yeah, whatever the case, she is...
The thing that Alex holds up is what he does.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's frustrating.
jordan holmes
She's not choosing the lesser of two evils.
And he's like, please, do choose the lesser of two evils so I feel good about choosing the lesser of two evils.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I want to compromise my principles.
dan friesen
I'm trying to talk you into liking Trump.
You won't do it.
Yeah.
I have this anti-vax weirdo who just announced you're not biting on that.
DeSantis.
Some vague policies he has that are not specified and probably don't mean anything she doesn't like.
jordan holmes
Oh, I love the way that he's trying to kill LGBTQ plus people, but I don't like his tax plan.
Sorry.
I mean, is that what you're doing?
Is that what we've got here?
dan friesen
I think that I don't like his other policies or whatever is just a space holder for...
I don't really know anything here, but I don't want to like him.
jordan holmes
I don't like him.
dan friesen
I'm not supposed to like him.
jordan holmes
He kind of sucks.
dan friesen
But also, I'm not supposed to like anybody.
jordan holmes
I don't like anybody.
The government is the ones making vaccines.
You're not supposed to like the government, period, even if somebody's in it.
dan friesen
Also, too sanctimonious.
jordan holmes
Too sanctimonious.
How about DeSanity?
I feel like with the insanity, the DeSanity, I feel like that's got something.
That's got legs.
He can try that.
dan friesen
That could go with Dark Brandon, though, and it could end up flipping on it, being reclaimed by Ron DeSantis.
You get DeSani, the water company.
To sponsor it.
jordan holmes
DeSantius.
dan friesen
Yeah.
DeSantianity.
jordan holmes
Ron DeSantianity.
dan friesen
It's a religion based around Ron DeSantis.
jordan holmes
I like it.
dan friesen
Insanity.
jordan holmes
I like it.
dan friesen
And bottled water.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I like it.
I think this has got legs.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So I could tell that Alex was getting a little bit peeved.
But I was not expecting this.
Alex just leaves.
alex jones
All right.
To give her the floor, she'll be back again with us next week.
I don't know why we haven't had her on, but I'm glad she's here.
Dr. Rima Labo here on the on-show show.
She's going to host the rest of this segment and the first segment of the next hour when Paul Joseph Watson takes over.
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dan friesen
Yeah, so he just does some plugs.
jordan holmes
Bye.
dan friesen
Says a little bit of a question for Rima and then is out.
jordan holmes
That's a good way to leave work.
That's a good way to leave work.
That's just being some random person.
Hey, you take over my job for a little bit.
I'm out of here.
dan friesen
Hey, guest.
You're hosting now.
But I mean, on some level, I kind of get it, because Alex can't stop interrupting people.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
So there is almost a graciousness to leaving.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
If you're a guest who's trying to get through something and trying to actually make a point, Alex not being there is to your advantage.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And it's his advantage, too, because he doesn't want to be there.
jordan holmes
He doesn't want to be there?
dan friesen
He clearly can't get through to her in any kind of way that they can play a game together.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
She just wants to talk about how her husband was murdered.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And how everybody sucks.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and that's...
That's such a fun acknowledgement that he's unable to make choices for himself.
Do you know what I mean?
That is like, I cannot be here.
Because I cannot play a supportive role in helping you get what you have to say across.
I simply cannot do it.
dan friesen
I'm not a scene partner.
jordan holmes
I can't.
I can't not interrupt you.
I can't give you the floor without suddenly popping in with bullshit.
dan friesen
Now, I will say that I'm going to give you the floor.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And then I will steamroll and ask you what you think about various politicians that I want you to sign off on.
jordan holmes
If I say I'm going to give you the floor, that means I have to remove myself from the floor.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
For sure.
unidentified
Yeah.
So, big day for RFK.
jordan holmes
I think he's got a shot.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's running.
Oh, boy.
Maybe what we should do is...
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
Hear me out.
All right.
Now, I know we all grew up watching those Celebrity Deathmatch, you know...
dan friesen
Mills Lane.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We all thought those were fun.
dan friesen
Claymation.
jordan holmes
But what if, instead of democracy, because that's clearly failed, what if we get all of our American famous people, all right, we let them choose one member of each family, they have to fight it out, the top 515 become the government.
dan friesen
Are we talking in claymation?
jordan holmes
No.
Dealer's choice.
Okay.
dan friesen
You make an interesting, if barbaric, suggestion.
Yeah, I don't know if that's going to pass the House.
jordan holmes
All right, fine.
dan friesen
Because you're going to have to have a con-con for that, right?
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
We're going to have to do three-fourths ratification from all the states.
That's going to be tough to get.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think you could get a couple.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But if you get a couple that are going to sign off on it, that's going to be just like how New Hampshire was going to secede right before 9-11.
jordan holmes
What if my only ally is Ron DeSanity?
Then we're hosed.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
That would be tough.
It doesn't sound impossible based on his governing style.
jordan holmes
You know, it really doesn't.
That's the problem.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, kind of a weak response to RFK.
But I think, I just can't escape how perfect it is for Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It solves so many of the problems that he has with Trump.
And not many people are going to be like Rima.
Such anti-vex zealots that even RFK Jr. is a shill somehow.
jordan holmes
And I mean, Kennedy is just a great one to have on your conspiracy side.
You know, because you've got...
Access to the Kennedys, which is all of the conspiracy theories that you want.
They're the American Rothschilds, if you like.
Something along those lines.
dan friesen
Sure, there's at least a lot of mythology.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you can always go back on, oh, he has access because his dad was RFK.
dan friesen
But he turned good.
jordan holmes
And he turned good, so now he's...
dan friesen
But RFK was good, too.
Even in Alex's world, RFK was...
unidentified
Really?
dan friesen
That's why they killed him.
Oh.
That's why the globalists killed him.
jordan holmes
That's weird.
dan friesen
Yeah, well look...
jordan holmes
That doesn't make sense.
dan friesen
Nope, it doesn't.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
JFK and RFK are two figures that don't make sense in terms of anti-communist tradition.
unidentified
None.
dan friesen
As time has gone on.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because so much of the Federal Reserve stuff has gotten mixed in and ideas that he was going to get rid of the income tax...
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
...and dissolve the CIA and all this shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, all these ideas that have gotten mixed in with conspiracy lore over the years have made him, like, such a, like, the last president.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is crazy.
The way that, I mean, you get assassinated, and then you get your little brother assassinated.
That's, that's...
dan friesen
That wasn't JFK's fault.
jordan holmes
I'm not saying it was.
dan friesen
The dealer's choice.
So, Jordan, we'll be back in another episode, but until then...
We have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight.
dan friesen
Yep.
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
alex jones
Oh, you know what?
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
andy in kansas
I'm a first time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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