#790: March 27-28, 2023
Today, Dan and Jordan check in on how Alex covered the news of the school shooting in Nashville. Unsurprisingly, he doesn't do well. Surprisingly, in the process, we end up learning a bit about rat social behaviors.
Today, Dan and Jordan check in on how Alex covered the news of the school shooting in Nashville. Unsurprisingly, he doesn't do well. Surprisingly, in the process, we end up learning a bit about rat social behaviors.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | ||
Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan. | |
Knowledge fight. | ||
Need money. | ||
Andy in Kansas. | ||
Andy in Kansas. | ||
Stop it. | ||
Andy in Kansas. | ||
Andy in Kansas. | ||
It's time to pray. | ||
Andy in Kansas. | ||
You're on the air. | ||
Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
I'm the first time calling in my future. | ||
I love you. | ||
Hey, everybody! | ||
Welcome back to Knowledge Right, I'm Dad. | ||
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I'm... | |
Jordan. | ||
We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
Oh, indeed we are. | ||
Dan. | ||
Jordan. | ||
Dan. | ||
Jordan. | ||
Quick question for you. | ||
What's up? | ||
What's your bright spot, buddy? | ||
My bright spot today is how chaotic the world is. | ||
You know, I'm sitting around, getting ready to do this episode, prepping things up, waiting for you to arrive, and what should happen, but Trump gets indicted. | ||
Oh, no, we're right on top of things. | ||
Who's to see these things coming? | ||
This is a news show. | ||
This is... | ||
Oh, man. | ||
And obviously, you know, Alex has got to be probably freaking out about this. | ||
He's probably in a mood. | ||
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Sure. | |
But we have an episode to do, so I can't watch if he's going live. | ||
I'll just have to pick up the pieces after we record. | ||
That's how we do it. | ||
And then Monday we'll have to talk about it. | ||
But man, I'm excited for the possible hatchet throwing or something. | ||
I don't know. | ||
It'd be nice. | ||
We could be in uncharted territory here with Alex. | ||
Trump has been indicted! | ||
Has anybody explained their whole, like, ah, let's release this at 4.30 on a Thursday plan? | ||
Didn't we hear that they were going to indict him last week? | ||
I think they're going on a break too, right? | ||
Okay, they're going on a break too. | ||
The grand jury. | ||
He was set to break or something like that. | ||
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Sure. | |
They got it out right in the... | ||
All right, right, right. | ||
Last minute. | ||
Buzzer beater. | ||
11th hour buzzer. | ||
Okay, gotcha. | ||
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Okay. | |
From downtown! | ||
All right. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Okay. | ||
So, man, I don't know. | ||
I'm a little bit up in the sky. | ||
I don't know how to make metaphors. | ||
But, yeah, I'm kind of like, all right, well, this is... | ||
I mean, I want to know what he's all about. | ||
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Sure. | |
I want to know what Alex is all about because his relationship with Trump is so weird. | ||
I mean, the ball could break in a number of directions, but I think the most predictable one is probably how it'll go, which is screaming bloody murder and the globalists are trying to kill him or something. | ||
I'm hoping for a kaleidoscope of emotions going from he deserves it for the COVID vaccine back to the Democrats or the demons who are trying to get rid of him back to, well, he wasn't as mean to China as I wanted to. | ||
I want him to lose his mind. | ||
Hear me out on this. | ||
Long shot. | ||
This is high money if it hits. | ||
Okay. | ||
But the odds are not good. | ||
Okay. | ||
Alex gets on air and he's like, my fellow patriots, I snitched on Trump. | ||
He just comes out and he's like, it was me. | ||
It was me. | ||
It was me! | ||
What am I supposed to say? | ||
I saw something wrong being done and I had to right that wrong. | ||
That would be so good. | ||
I mean, of all the face turns in history that could ever have happened, if Alex himself is the reason that Trump goes down, history, not now, not current history, we'll still be like, hey, fuck that guy forever. | ||
But history a hundred years from now will be like, I don't know, man! | ||
He's got a complicated legacy. | ||
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No. | |
I think he's... | ||
I don't know if that undoes. | ||
It doesn't undo shit for me. | ||
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Yeah. | |
A hundred years from now, people are crazy, though. | ||
You don't know what they'll think. | ||
It's like trying to pull off a face turn by, like, I don't know, being nice to a heel or something. | ||
I don't know. | ||
Look, I have my head in the clouds about wrestling as well, because coming up on Saturday, WrestleMania. | ||
Oh, are you worried about Uncle Howdy? | ||
I am not. | ||
Oh, is he gone? | ||
I don't know what's going on with him. | ||
I don't think he's in play anymore. | ||
Just free of Uncle Howdy. | ||
Uncle Howdy is no longer in play. | ||
I haven't been paying super close attention, but there was talk that Bray Wyatt got released or he quit or something, and then he disappeared off TV. | ||
I don't know what's going on with him. | ||
And honestly, for the first time in a long time... | ||
I don't care. | ||
You don't care what's going on with Bray Wyatt. | ||
I'm not mad at him. | ||
It is the end of an era. | ||
I'm not mad at him. | ||
I think he's supremely creative in all this. | ||
I just don't have the energy right now. | ||
We got a lot of stuff going on. | ||
And look, Trump got indicted. | ||
Wrestling's got to go on the back burner. | ||
WrestleMania superstar and WWE Hall of Famer Donald Trump has been indicted. | ||
How are they going to deal with that? | ||
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I don't know. | |
I don't know. | ||
I'm more interested in Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn have become a team again. | ||
They're going up against the Usos for the tag team straps. | ||
All right. | ||
Here was the biggest, biggest economic miss in wrestling history. | ||
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All right. | |
You negotiate a deal to perp walk Trump to the ring. | ||
Alright? | ||
That's the way you do it. | ||
What would his theme song be? | ||
I Shot the Sheriff? | ||
Shane O'Mac already has the, here comes the money! | ||
Money, money, money, money! | ||
That's a good point. | ||
That would be good for Trump. | ||
Ginny just has a new song about money. | ||
I can take that. | ||
Do you know what Trump did at WrestleMania? | ||
No, I do not know. | ||
He hit somebody with a chair, didn't he? | ||
Because he can't lose. | ||
No, so one time Stone Cold stunned him. | ||
But that wasn't the time. | ||
That wasn't this. | ||
Or maybe it was. | ||
I'm not entirely sure how it all went down. | ||
I don't remember exactly. | ||
But he and Vince McMahon got into a little bit of a we're both billionaires and who's better kind of thing. | ||
Boy, great country we have. | ||
And so they each chose a champion and the champions fought. | ||
And whoever lost had to have their head shaved. | ||
I don't know if there's ever been a more one-to-one Roman bullshit thing I've ever seen. | ||
That's amazing. | ||
And so Vince McMahon got his head shaved. | ||
I gotcha. | ||
Yeah, Trump's not going to get his head shaved. | ||
Yeah, but then he got stunned at some point. | ||
There was that picture of Linda McMahon because she was in Trump's cabinet. | ||
Sure, sure, sure. | ||
And so her whole family was at the White House. | ||
They had all received stunners. | ||
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Yes. | |
A family of stunners. | ||
Yeah, 80% of the people in this picture have received a so-called stunner. | ||
Why isn't the world more crazy is the question that we aren't asking. | ||
So anyway, what's your bright spot? | ||
My bright spot, Dan, I think is pretty simple and I think everybody already knows what it is. | ||
My man, today is opening day. | ||
Is it? | ||
Today is opening day. | ||
Cubs won. | ||
All right. | ||
Off of a great pitching performance from Marcus Stroman. | ||
Six innings. | ||
No runs. | ||
Eight strikeouts. | ||
And you've got to believe it. | ||
They played the song. | ||
They always play. | ||
It's one of the worst songs. | ||
It's pretty bad. | ||
It's terrible. | ||
But when you're drunk at the ballpark, you sing it as loud as you possibly can. | ||
You're not a Cubs fan. | ||
You've never even seen baseball before, but you're out there going, Go Cubs! | ||
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Go! | |
You're now part of the crowd. | ||
You lose your individuality. | ||
There's nothing you can do. | ||
Well, congratulations. | ||
1-0. | ||
Yep. | ||
Long way to go. | ||
No, they're not going to do well. | ||
I'm going to go with 80-86 or whatever it is. | ||
That's my pitch. | ||
Too many fucking games. | ||
Yeah, there are too many games. | ||
Woo! | ||
Too many games. | ||
Shorten it up. | ||
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. | ||
Sure. | ||
Hey, not good. | ||
Not good? | ||
Bad stuff. | ||
In the present day, we're going to be talking about March 27th and 28th, 2023. | ||
Sure. | ||
This is covering the period right after the Nashville shooting. | ||
Sure. | ||
And, yeah, I mean, I guess. | ||
As you might expect, but I might as well put it into words. | ||
If you're somebody who has a difficulty hearing some pretty horrible transphobic nonsense... | ||
This might not be the episode for you. | ||
Coming down the pipe. | ||
You might want to come back when we cover Trump's indictment on Monday. | ||
You bet. | ||
We'll see you Monday. | ||
Everybody, take your shift off. | ||
But that said, I'll be, I guess, more specific with, you know, this shit sucks when it's coming up. | ||
Because there's actually a fair amount of this that has nothing to do with the shooting. | ||
Yeah, naturally. | ||
But when we get to that, it'll not be great. | ||
It's gonna hurt. | ||
So, yeah, there you go. | ||
Before we get into that, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new Wongs, Jordan. | ||
That's a great idea. | ||
So, I don't think this was actually a shout-out name, but I feel like it could be one. | ||
Okay. | ||
And this is someone alerted me that one hour, 58 minutes, and 40 seconds into formulaic objections, part 10, Alex quotes Steppenwolf's born to be wild in his deposition. | ||
Thank you so much. | ||
You are now Policy Wong. | ||
I'm a policy wonk. | ||
Thank you very much. | ||
Next, I was going to put something funny, but instead wanted to genuinely thank you both for being allies against anti-Semitism. | ||
Thank you so much. | ||
You're an aisle policy wonk. | ||
I'm a policy wonk. | ||
Thank you very much. | ||
How dare you compliment us and make me... | ||
What's funny about that is we're not. | ||
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What? | |
Ha-ha! | ||
Heel turn from us! | ||
Oh, no. | ||
Oh, no. | ||
That would be a heel turn. | ||
That would be the biggest heel turn, yeah. | ||
Next, Odin the One-Eyed Cat. | ||
Thank you so much. | ||
You're an aisle policy wonk. | ||
I'm a policy wonk. | ||
Thank you very much. | ||
Thank you. | ||
Next, Shelby, the best cat in the world. | ||
Parenthetically, no offense to Celine. | ||
Thank you so much. | ||
You are now a policy wonk. | ||
I'm a policy wonk. | ||
Thank you very much. | ||
A lot of cat action here. | ||
Next, do technocrats dream of electronic sheeple? | ||
Thank you so much. | ||
You are now a policy wonk. | ||
I'm a policy wonk. | ||
Thank you very much. | ||
And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan. | ||
So, thank you so much to Jordan's fantasy football game is so incompetent, Alex wants it to be his lawyer. | ||
Thank you so much. | ||
You are now a technocrat. | ||
I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Call home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | |
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
Daddy Shark. | ||
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Bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp, bomp. | |
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
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He's a loser little titty baby. | |
I don't want to hate black people. | ||
I renounce Jesus Christ! | ||
I think that must have been a different, Jordan, because I don't remember you talking about fantasy football. | ||
I've never played fantasy football, not once in my entire life. | ||
I did. | ||
I didn't enjoy it as much as fantasy baseball. | ||
There's so much more to do in fantasy baseball, and it's like every day. | ||
You know, there's something going on. | ||
Maybe you've got to get someone off the injured reserve. | ||
Oh, no, no, no. | ||
For many people, fantasy baseball is far more interesting than baseball. | ||
It's more of a resource management game than it is a... | ||
Like, let's watch these people hit balls games. | ||
Yeah, and I was playing it when I was working in an office where I was just fucking miserable. | ||
And so, like, having that to do at work was great. | ||
Whereas fantasy football, you set your lineup, and it's like, that's about all you can do for the week. | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
And then you just gotta pay attention to the games. | ||
Yeah, brutal. | ||
Brutal. | ||
Ironic, ironic that you just earlier said, too many games for baseball, and then just now justified the reason that they have so many games. | ||
That's the reason? | ||
I mean, I didn't say it was that reason. | ||
I'm saying you justified it with a reason, not necessarily that that's why there are that many games. | ||
I think it's just the right number of games for fantasy baseball. | ||
Exactly! | ||
It's not the right number of games for baseball baseball. | ||
That's what I'm saying! | ||
It's too much. | ||
Too many games. | ||
So, Jordan, here's an out-of-context drop for today's show. | ||
We know that it's big boy pants time. | ||
No more antsy pantsy. | ||
Yeah. | ||
No more antsy pantsy. | ||
It's big boy pants time and no more antsy pantsy. | ||
No more antsy pantsy. | ||
No more. | ||
So we start on the 27th, and this is the day of the shooting. | ||
That was Monday. | ||
Right. | ||
And, you know, it happened, I think, about 10 minutes into Alex's show. | ||
Okay. | ||
Alex does not really talk about it on this episode. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
Really at all. | ||
And I would have just said, hey. | ||
Let's punt on this since he doesn't bring up the thing that I think is most relevant and people are probably curious about Alex's response to. | ||
But there's some stuff in here that I actually thought was worth talking about. | ||
Okay. | ||
So we're going to start off here. | ||
It's coming off the heels of his Sunday show where Alex has taken a lot of calls because he's trying to figure out if he should support Trump or not. | ||
Right. | ||
Are we getting Trump or are we getting DeSantis? | ||
That's the narrative that we're jumping into right now. | ||
Well, you might be bringing this down to an either-or, and maybe there's other options, but we'll get into that later. | ||
Sure. | ||
Rand Paul's back in the mix. | ||
Okay. | ||
I was going to say, I don't see Nikki Haley in Alex's future. | ||
I'm just throwing that out there. | ||
Rand Paul is back as the pure option. | ||
Sure. | ||
And then there's a lot of bullshit talk about Robert Kennedy Jr. running as a Democrat. | ||
I feel... | ||
Here's all I'm saying, alright? | ||
Either you have a god-king, or you have to come out and say they have lost the mantle of heaven. | ||
Do you know what I mean? | ||
You do need to explain why the divine right is gone. | ||
Exactly, yes. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
That probably would be tough. | ||
This is the end of the Joe dynasty. | ||
You gotta figure this shit out, man. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Well, you could just sidestep that by still being pro-Trump. | ||
Good call. | ||
Alright, here's where I stand on Trump. | ||
We opened the phones up yesterday, and I said, what is your view on Trump? | ||
Are you going to support him or not? | ||
We looked at all the bad he's done. | ||
We looked at a lot of the good he's done. | ||
He's done so much good, it's hard to look at all of it. | ||
It's a laundry list. | ||
But the bad is there as well. | ||
Go ahead and start that laundry list. | ||
But the reason I feel drawn to supporting Trump so much is a whole spectrum of reasons. | ||
It's not true that DeSantis is the skull and bones at Yale. | ||
That's something being put out, but it's not true. | ||
But it is true that he has said in multiple speeches, we have the clips, that George Herbert Walker Bush is his idol and who he thinks he admires the most. | ||
George W. Bush was the Democrat deep stater that helped get more of the New World Order in and set the foundation up for what we're living under than anybody else. | ||
He's the Rockefeller frontman. | ||
So here's the part where conspiracy theorists get bored and start directing their conspiracies inward and attack their own. | ||
DeSantis wasn't skull and bones, but that isn't really even part of the criticism there that's important. | ||
What's important is that he could have been. | ||
Right. | ||
He went to Yale and then Harvard Law. | ||
He wasn't in Skull and Bones, but the fact that you have to consider if he possibly was means that his path in life involves the elite Ivy League institutions that the right wing hates. | ||
And that's really what's coded within that criticism. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
I don't know for sure because Alex isn't specific, but I think he may be referring to, with the George H.W. Bush stuff, DeSantis' tweet from the day he died. | ||
The day that Bush died. | ||
He said, quote, President Bush amassed prodigious accomplishments, and he did it all with uncommon grace, class, and honor. | ||
Appreciation of his achievements will only continue to grow as the years go by. | ||
President Bush was an American hero, a faithful servant, and the greatest Yaley of them all. | ||
Yeah, yeah. | ||
Good luck with that. | ||
History's not going to be kind, buddy. | ||
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No. | |
He also has said in a speech that Alex plays that early in his political career, he's being asked who's the most important or biggest person. | ||
That you've met, and he brings up H.W. Bush. | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
More importantly, though, did you notice the slip of the hand Alex tried to pull off there? | ||
He was talking about DeSantis' comments about George H.W. Bush, then started complaining about George W. Bush being a Rockefeller stooge. | ||
Also super wild to hear that W. was a Democrat. | ||
Could have sworn he was definitely a Republican, but here's the thing. | ||
Words mean nothing, and you have to understand them in their context when people like Alex are talking. | ||
When these folks say that DeSantis was in Skull and Bones, the truth or falsity of that statement doesn't matter. | ||
They're saying he's shitty because he's close to the establishment. | ||
When Alex says that W was a Democrat, the truth or falsity of that doesn't matter. | ||
He's saying that relative to his own politics, W is a Democrat. | ||
Alex is so far to the right and thinks that's where the true conservative position is that everyone who exists in mainstream politics may as well. | ||
be a Democrat. | ||
These are words that tell you nothing about reality but they give you insight into the person saying them. | ||
Someone accusing DeSantis of being in Skull and Bones has no bearing on reality. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I am angry at the people that I see as being close to these elite institutions that I've been told to hate. | ||
Right. | ||
I mean, one of the biggest obstacles to us or to anybody covering the far right... | ||
And to anybody communicating with the far right is that they have a language that they have cobbled together out of the sounds that we use words to meet. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
If all they did was use inflection to each other, it would be just as incomprehensible as it would be right now for people who are like, Ah, I see. | ||
So what they must want is slightly less immigration at the border because they said the word slightly. | ||
And it's like... | ||
You're insane. | ||
You're all insane. | ||
You're all insane because you don't speak their language and you never will. | ||
There is a strange linguistics to it that I think is lost on a lot of folks. | ||
It's a different language. | ||
You don't spend enough time hearing them and seeing what they mean by what they say. | ||
Right. | ||
And yeah, that's something that kind of struck me a little bit. | ||
So Alex walks back his whole like, maybe I don't support Trump. | ||
Oh, I guess I do now. | ||
Really what takes me to the point of really supporting Trump over to Stannis is Trump's stalwart, push for peace, anti-war, and not having nuclear war, stopping and ending the Ukraine operation, which as president he can snap his fingers and do because the people that have hijacked the U.S. are the ones running the Ukraine war. | ||
So you've got to support Trump because of that. | ||
And then it's the fact that he has the biggest rallies full of the best people of every race, color, and creed. | ||
Who still love this country and don't want government to be God. | ||
Because communism is where the state tries to be God. | ||
That's the best definition. | ||
Okay. | ||
So... | ||
What? | ||
Alex just likes that Trump is pro-Russia. | ||
Yeah, I mean, I guess. | ||
Because it's not anti-war. | ||
Yeah, as long as... | ||
Trump shoved ISIS up his dirty asshole. | ||
He did. | ||
He did. | ||
As long as Trump is president, there's still the possibility that Putin might take over the United States, and then we'll have a real country. | ||
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That may as well be kind of what Alex is saying. | |
It's not far enough off. | ||
He's had stalwart support for the other side in Ukraine. | ||
Exactly! | ||
What are you talking about? | ||
Ah, the loyalists, I see. | ||
Yeah, you're cool, man. | ||
Yeah, great. | ||
So, there's another problem, and that is that Alex calls the vaccine the poison shot. | ||
Sure. | ||
And Trump kind of was responsible for Operation Warp Speed and brags about it, won't disown it, and all that. | ||
So that is a problem. | ||
And so, I am supporting Trump for president, but I'm doing it not even holding my nose. | ||
In fact, it's the opposite. | ||
I am breathing in the foul stench of the poison shot that's already killed millions worldwide, and the fact that Trump is so pig-headed and won't admit it was wrong. | ||
But at least said we shouldn't make people take the shots and we shouldn't give it to kids and he came out against the transgender cult Saturday. | ||
That's good. | ||
He says he'll destroy the deep state. | ||
That's wonderful. | ||
The deep state does really hate him. | ||
He is being persecuted. | ||
But I think that by supporting Trump, we're going to have more ability to influence him and get him to listen than not supporting him. | ||
That makes sense. | ||
And he's probably going to win the presidency. | ||
So what am I going to do then? | ||
This is the speech of a true coward. | ||
What a loser. | ||
He's made ultimatums for Trump to come out against the vaccine, swearing that he'll destroy Trump if he does it, and then nothing happens. | ||
Trump doesn't give a... | ||
Fuck, doesn't respond, and Alex has to move along pretending he never made these ultimatums to begin with. | ||
And now he's at a crossroads where he needs to apparently throw his meaningless support behind a candidate. | ||
On the one side, you have Trump, who Alex should hate and kind of turned against like ten times in the last year. | ||
And then on the other side, we have DeSantis, who's waging a crusade against literally everything Alex hates. | ||
Literally everything that Alex complains about, DeSantis is doing something about in a way that is horrific. | ||
And awful in Florida. | ||
Right. | ||
Here's the problem, though, is that when DeSantis is in public, he's a big whiny loser. | ||
That is true. | ||
That is difficult for Alex to really get behind. | ||
They can't! | ||
They can't! | ||
As long as he is not available, like the idea of DeSantis, if I was running his campaign, I would say, stay in your office. | ||
Don't give speeches. | ||
Don't go outside. | ||
People will love you. | ||
Don't walk past Biden talking to people and having a good time. | ||
Don't go to the debates. | ||
Remember how you can just cancel debates? | ||
You don't have to have a Republican-Democrat debate. | ||
You don't have to go to the Republican debates. | ||
And do you know what will be cooler? | ||
You not being there with a resume as compared to all of those clowns being like, I'll do this. | ||
Yeah, yeah. | ||
Don't go to the debate. | ||
Instead, have a rock concert tonight. | ||
Totally. | ||
100%. | ||
But Alex is right about one thing here. | ||
He has a better chance of influencing Trump. | ||
DeSantis isn't going to play nice with Alex and try to court a couple of votes that he could swing because he doesn't need to. | ||
He's from Yale. | ||
Trump isn't going to associate with Alex this time either, but he did that one interview like seven and a half years ago, so Alex can still ride high on that and pretend that they're best friends. | ||
Alex can optically associate with Trump much easier than with DeSantis, and that gives him the appearance of proximity to power and thus power of his own within his own sphere and with his audience. | ||
Right. | ||
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You can tell that that's an important variable for Alex in this decision. | |
If I side with Trump, I will appear to be closer to him. | ||
I mean, yeah. | ||
DeSantis would be one of the few people on the far right who would be like, I don't really have a... | ||
I mean, maybe Alex is bad. | ||
Like, that's what he would... | ||
Yeah. | ||
Or if he responded at all. | ||
Yeah, I would be shocked if he would even want to weigh in. | ||
Yeah, never heard of the guy. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Never heard of the guy. | ||
Hey, guys, I'm a governor. | ||
I don't have time for pissant radio shows. | ||
What, did you see the news about the largest judgment in the history of the United States courts? | ||
Of course you didn't. | ||
You're a governor. | ||
Yeah, now someone is going to email me with a list of times that Ron just said, Alex Jones is super cool. | ||
Whatever. | ||
Who cares? | ||
I see him as someone who, his political brand doesn't lend itself well to being associated with Alex. | ||
Because he might, like, were he to be associated with Alex, People would ask him about that. | ||
And then he would have to answer those questions. | ||
Right. | ||
Whereas Trump... | ||
He's such an asshole that he doesn't matter. | ||
Well, DeSantis is trying to be the prophecy that we all said of, like, oh, if there was ever a competent Trump... | ||
The next slick one. | ||
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Totally. | |
Right, right. | ||
And now we're all seeing what that prophecy means while the other god king is still alive, which is that what they really wanted was a guy, an asshole, to be mean to people. | ||
And DeSantis is functionally mean to people, but terrible at being publicly mean to people. | ||
Yeah, and that's not... | ||
It's not enough. | ||
It's not enough. | ||
And what you're saying, I think, is totally right. | ||
That is, while that bombastic asshole first run is still around, you can't really warm up to the person who is that slicker next version. | ||
I mean, and the simplest reason is because a lot of these people, despite any pretense towards arguments whatsoever, it looks like... | ||
Trump could beat the shit out of DeSantis. | ||
Like, that's the idea in their heads. | ||
Why would I choose the guy if I know he couldn't win in a fight against the other guy? | ||
Yeah. | ||
It's supposed to be more complicated than that. | ||
You're supposed to have principles and shit. | ||
They fucking don't. | ||
No. | ||
Absolutely not. | ||
No more antsy pants. | ||
No more antsy pants. | ||
DeSantis is antsy pants DeSantis. | ||
Anty pantsantus. | ||
Anty pantsantus. | ||
So, Alex, much like he did on Sunday, needs to take calls to test the audience's support. | ||
Of course. | ||
Now, we opened the phones up yesterday, and I'd say about almost 70% of the calls. | ||
I was sitting there taking notes. | ||
I think we took like 20 calls, and 11 or 12 supported Trump. | ||
Four or five didn't support Trump, and a few were neutral. | ||
So the majority supported him. | ||
I want to open the phones up today. | ||
We did a really good job taking a lot of calls. | ||
Only took calls for an hour. | ||
We took 20 plus calls. | ||
I'm going to open the phones up again today and I'm going to take 100 calls. | ||
That's too many. | ||
And I'm going to put a big poll up on Infowars. | ||
That's not going to happen. | ||
And I'm going to ask the listeners, do you support Trump? | ||
Do you support DeSantis? | ||
Do you support Senator Rand Paul? | ||
Do you support Robert F. Kennedy Jr.? | ||
Or do you support Biden? | ||
So please have Ben out there doing a great job. | ||
Put that up. | ||
Oh yeah, Biden's gonna do well in this poll. | ||
He's gonna clean up. | ||
Now, I, from listening to this episode, was shocked at how uniform the people's response was, RFK Jr. | ||
They were okay with Trump, but they wanted RFK Jr. | ||
Here's why this makes sense to me. | ||
Anti-vax royalty? | ||
Totally. | ||
No, I mean, Alex doesn't make sense. | ||
Alex is the only person who doesn't make sense here, because Alex is trying to talk away the idea that Trump is responsible for the murder of millions upon millions of people by saying, well, you know, he's mean to trans people still. | ||
You know, like, that's his argument, and they're all like, no, you can't murder millions of people, which is what you told us he did. | ||
Yeah. | ||
With the poison shot. | ||
He did. | ||
So we're choosing the guy who's not murdering millions of people. | ||
It's not complicated. | ||
RFK Jr. | ||
Would never work out. | ||
Oh, no. | ||
But if he did, Cheryl Hines would be the first lady. | ||
Wait, what? | ||
He's married to Cheryl Hines. | ||
No! | ||
Yeah. | ||
Really? | ||
You didn't know that? | ||
What? | ||
Yeah. | ||
Curb Your Enthusiasm? | ||
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Yeah. | |
She's married to Robert F. Kennedy Jr. | ||
There aren't enough people. | ||
I know. | ||
There are not enough people. | ||
But imagine that next season of Curb where Cheryl Hines is the first lady. | ||
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Oh, boy. | |
That's going to be a good season. | ||
I would watch the shit out of that season. | ||
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Oh! | |
Yeah, so everyone is really thrilled with the idea of RFK. | ||
Honestly, now I kind of am too. | ||
I'm not. | ||
Still think it would be bad. | ||
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Yeah, true. | |
He's terrible. | ||
True. | ||
So Alex is a little bit mad about some news articles that were about him that came out that I didn't see. | ||
I don't know. | ||
I mean, I'm only a person who spends most waking hours involved in some way in dealing with Alex and Alex-adjacent ideas. | ||
I didn't see this article. | ||
Okay. | ||
Now, then there's the other big national issue. | ||
International issue. | ||
I said yesterday, and it's all over top of Yahoo, top of Apple News, MSNBC, New York Times. | ||
They're all reporting and twisting what I said. | ||
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Jones gives a frightening prophecy. | |
What? | ||
Jones gives a dark prophecy that Trump will be killed if he gets the nomination and is set to win. | ||
I said the deep state is trying to put him in prison. | ||
The deep state hates his guts. | ||
And I think that's a no-brainer to say when they're all over the news. | ||
In fact, I sent you guys a couple tweets. | ||
I didn't see them in the stack. | ||
Maybe I missed them, but I'll send them again. | ||
I saw hundreds of them, but only a few saying, yeah, we hope Trump gets killed and we hope Alex Jones gets killed too. | ||
That was all over Twitter. | ||
Oh man, a couple tweets. | ||
I failed to... | ||
I mean, I didn't see any of this, but I mean like... | ||
Alex has said they're going to kill Trump. | ||
Every year? | ||
All the time. | ||
I mean, they were poisoning his... | ||
Diet Cokes? | ||
Diet Cokes, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
They were going to fly a helicopter into the inauguration? | ||
True, yep. | ||
Like, it's insane how many times he's tried to do this bullshit. | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
I can't imagine, like, anyone being that interested. | ||
I'm sure some outlet maybe wrote a blurb about it or something, but like... | ||
Who cares? | ||
Who does this all the time? | ||
I feel like now we're at the point where you can't say, oh, somebody tweeted this, right? | ||
Like, Twitter is a shambles. | ||
You can no longer care about the shambles of Twitter. | ||
What does that matter? | ||
I don't give a shit. | ||
So if somebody tweets something, it no longer has any meaning. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I mean, look, I'm not one to get into the complaining about social media sites too much because I think they're all trash to begin with. | ||
Exactly. | ||
I don't care about them. | ||
I'm too old and cranky for this nonsense. | ||
That's how we live. | ||
But I will say that I have noticed a shocking uptick in dumb right-wing nonsense on my feed. | ||
I mean, it's basically truth social now. | ||
Like, we can ignore it. | ||
I did nothing. | ||
Didn't, like, follow more people. | ||
Nope. | ||
And I have seen way more, like, things that are... | ||
Like, dumb theories and stuff. | ||
I'm like, what the hell is going on here? | ||
I think we all know. | ||
Yeah, I think we all do know. | ||
So let's just be like, hey, we did it. | ||
We're done. | ||
And people who have blocked me, their tweets are showing up. | ||
See, there we go. | ||
There we go. | ||
What is happening? | ||
I thought I got blocked. | ||
I was trying to be blocked. | ||
Yes. | ||
Please, just let me be blocked. | ||
Don't show me green wall! | ||
So anyway, Alex, I guess. | ||
Is navel-gazing a little bit there. | ||
So here's what Alex thinks Trump needs to do. | ||
I was thinking about it last night and this morning. | ||
He has to come out and say he was lied to about Operation Warp Speed and by Fauci. | ||
We know they came to him. | ||
They said we can do it quickly. | ||
They already had the so-called vaccine ready. | ||
I don't think that's a bad idea. | ||
They lied to him and said they didn't. | ||
Then they claimed they made it in two weeks. | ||
He's got to expose that to save lives and stop the next stage pandemic. | ||
But that said, if you're against Trump, okay, who are we for and then what is your path? | ||
And I'm saying that legitimately, that I respect you and I understand your concerns and I have real concerns and I don't like the fact that Trump has done the wrong thing on the poison injections. | ||
But on all these other issues, he's doing a great job. | ||
Look at the comparison to Biden. | ||
I mean, this is just so pathetic for Alex. | ||
Like, for someone with the, like, initial branding that he had of who he was as a figure, to be concerned about, like, oh, yeah, Trump is not perfect, but consider the alternative. | ||
Sure. | ||
Lesser of two evils with Biden kind of stuff. | ||
Like, why do you care who's president? | ||
It's your whole fucking thing about, like, this is all nonsense and it doesn't matter. | ||
Like, Trump got in. | ||
He didn't defeat the deep state. | ||
He's not going to do anything. | ||
You're not going to beat your imaginary globalists this time around? | ||
What are you talking about? | ||
Save some dignity and go back to your I don't care about this stuff presentation. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Be above it, you dumb dumb. | ||
Yeah, I think he's just acknowledging that he's no longer driving his own bus. | ||
Yes! | ||
You know, like, he's sitting there going, like... | ||
I don't know where to go. | ||
And whereas in the past, if he didn't know where to go, he would just start going somewhere and that's where he went. | ||
And now he's like, do you want to tell me where to go? | ||
I accidentally hitched my wagon to Trump, so now my personal brand requires him. | ||
Will you promise to keep buying my weird pills if I like Trump? | ||
100%. | ||
100%. | ||
Is it good for my brand to like Trump or is it bad? | ||
You might as well just ask that. | ||
It's fucking sad. | ||
It's terrifyingly sad. | ||
What a loser. | ||
What a shell. | ||
You could argue in some ways is exacerbated by the bankruptcy and by him losing these cases. | ||
Sure, sure, sure. | ||
But it is distinct from it. | ||
It's a trend that is not being brought on by outside forces that are out to get him. | ||
Done this to himself. | ||
He's trapped himself in this place where he's existing as a rejection of everything that made him interesting earlier in his career. | ||
Yeah, I mean, at most, I would say that the judgments and the like, if I were going to be generous, I think maybe he's second-guessed himself slightly more. | ||
But I don't know if that's a maybe, you know? | ||
Like, I don't know if that is even an effect other than just... | ||
Age? | ||
Too many drugs? | ||
Burnout? | ||
I don't know what else to say. | ||
There are any number of reasons that he's second-guessing himself now. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Also, no one lied to Trump about Operation Warp Speed. | ||
No. | ||
So Alex's suggestion is Trump lie about being lied to. | ||
Yes. | ||
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Cool. | |
I think that's a... | ||
No, I mean, I don't think it's a good... | ||
For his audience, yeah. | ||
For Trump, yeah, I think that's a smart move. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I think it's a good idea. | ||
I think it's wrong and terrible, but it's a good idea. | ||
Because I think in some ways, if he were to lie about being lied to, he'd be able to placate the anti-vex weirdos, but still hold on to some ego of like, look what I got accomplished. | ||
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Totally. | |
I got a lot done. | ||
Look, they said that this was going to happen, and that was wrong, but I still did it. | ||
I still pulled off the impossible. | ||
Exactly. | ||
You can still hold on to some weird ego shit. | ||
I made the deal. | ||
I was the one who made the deal. | ||
Sure, I was lied to about the deal, but I was the one who pulled it off. | ||
It would satisfy the optics. | ||
No, it's smart. | ||
So, the shooting happened while Alex is on air, and he doesn't cover it, but this is what he was gearing up to cover that day. | ||
Sure. | ||
These are the headlines that he's got. | ||
Let's get into the facts here now. | ||
I'm going to come back, take calls on Trump in 2024, on what's happening in the world, and do you support Trump or DeSantis, or what do you support, what's your plan to take the country back? | ||
That's the next segment, but let me tell you what else is coming up. | ||
Minnesota lawmakers advance transgender reps legislation that could strip custody from parents who don't support child being sterilized. | ||
Arizona Family Dollar employee charged with murder after allegedly gunning down... | ||
What? | ||
Refugee bill. | ||
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Opponents say would strip custody from non-consenting parents. | |
You must consent the state sterilizing your child. | ||
GOP bill would protect parents who refuse to transition their child's gender. | ||
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Fox News. | |
Peace. | ||
Thank you. | ||
And a whole lot more. | ||
Tennessee legislature passes ban on gender transition health care for minors. | ||
Kentucky governor says he's going to veto a bill protecting minor children from being sterilized by the state. | ||
Idaho signs transgender bathroom ban. | ||
School faces 5,000 fines per infraction. | ||
I've got public schools around the country where they're forcing elementary students, middle students, and high school students. | ||
Into transgender bathrooms. | ||
Everyone is in the same bathroom at the same time. | ||
They're telling children it's a hate crime if they don't strip down in front of the opposite sex. | ||
What a sick cult of evil garbage. | ||
So it should be pointed out that this is what Alex has prepared to cover, and he has no idea that a mass shooting has even happened. | ||
His stated plan on this episode was to lie about misrepresented headlines in order to incite hatred towards trans people, because that's what his show and much of the right-wing media is currently. | ||
A lot of it is indistinguishable from media designed to promote hate. | ||
Right. | ||
Because maybe it's not that different. | ||
No. | ||
This is another case where you have to translate what Alex is saying. | ||
He keeps saying that these people are being sterilized which is not the case. | ||
There may be some decreased virility that accompanies hormone therapy but there are studies that have shown that a lot of that reverses if a person ceases taking the hormone. | ||
This isn't about sterilization, but again, the truth or falsity of what Alex is saying is not really important to what he actually means. | ||
He's just saying that he hates trans people. | ||
Him calling gender-affirming care sterilization is little more than him virtue-signaling to his transphobia and more general bigotry so the audience knows that he's on their side of this. | ||
Here's what is impossible to translate, right? | ||
Because of what it is they're discussing. | ||
Right? | ||
We have this conversation as though what they're doing is talking about trans people. | ||
And that has nothing to do with anything. | ||
That has nothing to do with anything. | ||
If there were no trans people, right, tomorrow there would be new trans people. | ||
Right. | ||
There is never an end to it. | ||
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Right. | |
So whatever white or straight cis you think you are right now, it is only a matter of time before you are not. | ||
Yeah. | ||
So that is why it is like... | ||
You should not be thinking about this in terms of the words or the conversation they're pretending to be having. | ||
You should think about both. | ||
Well, yeah, I mean, obviously. | ||
You should think about it, but you should also understand the meaning and the intent of a lot of this. | ||
The meaning and the intent is I can go after them right now. | ||
And eventually I will be able to go after you. | ||
Yeah. | ||
And there are other groups that I would have gone after in another time. | ||
Totally. | ||
When standards were different. | ||
Yeah. | ||
And people were, you know, whatever the vulnerable group was at that time that was okay for me to attack. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Yeah. | ||
It's shit. | ||
It's disgusting. | ||
So the one thing I thought was very interesting about this clip is the last headline Alex reads off. | ||
I want to play this again so you can take note of what I'm getting at. | ||
Idaho signs transgender bathroom ban. | ||
School faces $5,000 fine per infraction. | ||
I've got public schools around the country where they're forcing elementary students, middle students, and high school students into transgender bathrooms. | ||
Everyone is in the same bathroom at the same time. | ||
They're telling children it's a hate crime if they don't strip down in front of the opposite sex. | ||
What a sick cult of evil garbage. | ||
So Alex read that headline, which is about Idaho banning trans people from going to bathrooms that correspond with their gender. | ||
Incidentally, this bill was written by the Idaho Family Policy Center, a right-wing Christian group who's seeking to turn the U.S. into a theocracy. | ||
They want to impose biblical standards into government, and that's really cool, according to their president, Blair Konzati, who said, God's law grants more freedom and enables more human flourishing than any other moral philosophy known to man. | ||
He left off the part where that freedom and Human flourishing doesn't count if you're flourishing in a way that he thinks is sinful. | ||
So, fuck off. | ||
You know, whatever. | ||
So, back to the point, though. | ||
Alex reads that headline and then gets lost in the weeds, rambling about elementary schools where people have to strip down with folks of all genders in the same bathroom, or else it's a hate crime. | ||
You may notice something really glaring there. | ||
The headline and the actual article about the anti-trans legislation is really easy to find and be specific about, where his stories about these horrors of liberalism run amok are vague. | ||
unsourced and seem like maybe he's making them up. | ||
And that's because he's making that shit up. | ||
Yeah. | ||
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But the anti-trans legislation is very real. | |
Yeah. | ||
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And so that's that dynamic. | |
Yeah, I mean, it is difficult to directly just say, like... | ||
These people are writing this legislation to hurt people and for no other reason. | ||
There is no other reason. | ||
You can argue that they have a whatever thing that they say. | ||
They have a nominal reason. | ||
Sure, sure, sure. | ||
Yeah, it's not sincere. | ||
But people in the government are writing legislation to hurt people. | ||
And what is being distracted by that with is, oh, actually... | ||
Kids are being forced to blah, blah, blah. | ||
Yeah, next thing you know, Joe Rogan's talking about how people have to put their cats in litter boxes in schools and everyone has to accept that people are cats. | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
And you don't have to deal with your government writing legislation just to hurt people. | ||
Yep. | ||
It's a fun game. | ||
Yep. | ||
So anyway, we get a call that's weird. | ||
And by weird, not really weird. | ||
It's not that weird. | ||
It just seems kind of out of time. | ||
It's at a different time. | ||
Kurt in South Carolina, welcome. | ||
Thank you, sir. | ||
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I do support Donald J. Trump for president. | |
I'd also recommend that we support our constitutional-minded sheriffs across this country and pray that they would form posses and join together in arresting the criminal usurpers of our country. | ||
You know, that's a really good point. | ||
The left anti-fund all these lawless Black Lives Matter groups. | ||
We just need citizen defense, peaceful, and I guess they had the term back up until after World War II, civil defense. | ||
They got rid of that. | ||
And we do need to take neighborhood watch to the next level to stabilize our societies and have our communities come together. | ||
And the county sheriff's the place to start constitutionally. | ||
Yes, sir. | ||
This sounds like 2009 shit. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Talking about constitutional sheriffs. | ||
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Are we back there? | |
Come on. | ||
We're in the future. | ||
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Get out of here. | |
It doesn't feel right for Alex to be talking about this. | ||
I get that he still loves sheriffs, I assume, but it just doesn't. | ||
It feels weird. | ||
I mean, you know, in a post-COVID world, it does feel like a lot of the constitutional sheriffs were handled by the disease. | ||
They certainly probably had a bad batting average. | ||
They didn't have a good run. | ||
But, yeah, it just seems like this is your past career, buddy. | ||
You can't keep playing these hits. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
I don't think even your audience wants to hear this. | ||
You can never go home again. | ||
No. | ||
Also, nobody really thinks that if you got a bunch of sheriffs together murdering people, it would solve problems. | ||
No, but you also already have these right-wing street groups that already exist. | ||
Yeah. | ||
You just want sheriffs to, I guess, deputize them. | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
So they can legally murder. | ||
Right now, this whole, like, gray area, you know. | ||
Yeah, you want the sheriff presiding over the serial naming ceremony. | ||
Exactly! | ||
Yes! | ||
And you want the sheriff to have a silly name based on a thing he hit somebody with one time. | ||
I mean, it's like, why would you elect a sheriff that didn't own a white hood in their back closet? | ||
Based stick sheriff. | ||
One day, one sweet day. | ||
So close. | ||
So Alex does not sing along with You Belong to the City, but he does get into a little bit of Mother! | ||
Mother! | ||
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Tell your children not to walk my way. | |
Tell them not to hear my words. | ||
What they mean, what they say. | ||
Mother! | ||
Mother! | ||
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Can you keep them from the wind? | |
Can you hide them from the waiting world? | ||
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Father, do you want to bang heads with me? | |
We are back live broadcasting worldwide on this March 27th, 2023 transmission in defiance of tyranny. | ||
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Run all by the blue screen away And if you want to find the other way I can join you Father, I'm going to take your daughter out tonight. | |
I'm going to show her my world. | ||
Don't do that. | ||
What an aggressive statement. | ||
That is a good point. | ||
That is a good point. | ||
I'm going to show her my world. | ||
What a good point. | ||
But what is the whole transgender cult? | ||
Oh my God. | ||
It's not some 17-year-old young man trying to take your 16-year-old daughter out and show her his world. | ||
It's a bunch of weird, sick, evil, child-obsessed... | ||
Pedophiles. | ||
And I'm going to be covering that coming up next hour. | ||
That seems unnecessary. | ||
Yeah, that's a little bit of an aggressive statement, really, when you think about it. | ||
Why'd you have to do that, man? | ||
Just rock it out to mother? | ||
We were having a great time. | ||
We were having a great time. | ||
I don't know where you got to just throw in trans people who are demonic pedophiles. | ||
Come on, man. | ||
Wow. | ||
Saying it's really cool, the idea of a 17-year-old aggressively confronting a parent to be like, I'm taking your daughter out tonight. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I'm showing my world. | ||
Yeah. | ||
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That's cool. | |
Yeah. | ||
It's very strange. | ||
It's almost like there's a flagellation. | ||
Like, any time you experience joy, you have to destroy it by being like, I remind myself that there are sinners in this world. | ||
I'm having fun, and I must remember my hate. | ||
Yeah, exactly. | ||
Right? | ||
If I have too much fun, I'm not hating. | ||
Always be hating. | ||
So fucking annoying. | ||
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Yeah. | |
Anyway, we get another caller, and this is one of them who wants RFK Jr. as the president. | ||
Sure. | ||
My issue is then what do we do if the alternative, I'm not a lesser to evil guys, but if the alternative is a thousand percent worse, what do we do? | ||
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RFK Jr., man, I think if Rand Paul's with him, I think that then when we get hit again, at least they'll have somebody who can guide the country through the next pandemic. | |
Well, there's no doubt they can't get our guns right now, so they're going to do another virus. | ||
You're right. | ||
I appreciate your call. | ||
I like RFK Jr., but he needs to come out against gun control and come out against abortion. | ||
I really trust him. | ||
He's a good man. | ||
He's a loving man. | ||
He's a well-spoken man. | ||
He's the real deal. | ||
My spirit tells me he's good. | ||
I think that Alex Jones may have met Cheryl Hines at some point. | ||
I just thought about that. | ||
That's possible. | ||
He and Robert F. Kennedy Jr., they've known each other for a while. | ||
Yeah, that's true. | ||
Like in anti-vex circles and stuff. | ||
Sure. | ||
That's fucked up. | ||
You think he's met Larry David? | ||
That's what I'm thinking. | ||
That's a good question. | ||
That would be an interesting episode of Curb. | ||
I was supposed to be Jeff Garland's character on Curb. | ||
I turned down $3 million an episode. | ||
They were going to let me be George in the reboot. | ||
Oh man, he would have been great as George. | ||
Jerry! | ||
So yeah, apparently they can't get our guns now, so I guess if there's another shooting, we probably shouldn't be worried about that. | ||
No, it appears not. | ||
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Because they can't. | |
They have to use a pandemic. | ||
That's against the law. | ||
So that's why you need an anti-vax weirdo as president, and Rand Paul as vice president to be... | ||
I guess hostile. | ||
I do appreciate the dark mirror of the lesser of two evils conversation. | ||
I would appreciate more of the people who had that conversation on the left over Biden. | ||
Just be like, you know what? | ||
Fuck it. | ||
We're going to choose not evil and let the chips fall where they may because, frankly, this is dumb regardless of what side you're on. | ||
Also, just to be totally clear, Alex is saying I'm not a lesser of two evils guy than saying what about the lesser of two evils? | ||
Exactly. | ||
Absolutely. | ||
Absolutely. | ||
That's a little silly. | ||
No. | ||
I mean, come on. | ||
These conversations are dumb. | ||
Get over it. | ||
Pick a guy. | ||
Move on. | ||
Let's go. | ||
Yeah. | ||
So we've got one last clip here from the 27th. | ||
And this is a caller actually coming in with a terrible idea, but I think would be historically important. | ||
Okay. | ||
If this could happen. | ||
All right. | ||
As a document. | ||
I like big swings. | ||
If this could happen, it would be important to record it. | ||
Okay. | ||
But see, that's the point why I'm tentatively supporting him, is because they hate him and they fear him, and even though he's got problems, he's the real deal. | ||
I mean, he's got problems, too. | ||
He murdered millions of people with a poison job. | ||
He definitely wants to be president. | ||
He was president. | ||
He definitely, I don't think, is out to get us. | ||
He's just very, very pig-headed. | ||
So how do we thread that needle? | ||
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This might be a little unorthodox, but he needs to take a mushroom trip and kill his ego or something. | |
I agree. | ||
I think I should take mushrooms with President Trump. | ||
I would love that. | ||
I did take them with Mike Tyson. | ||
I'm not a big drug guy, but... | ||
I would love that, too. | ||
I've taken some elusages here and there over the years. | ||
I don't take them very often. | ||
I've taken them with Joe Rogan. | ||
I've taken them with Mike Tyson. | ||
And if you have control of your mind, it's not that big a deal. | ||
Yeah, I'm honest. | ||
You're not doing it right. | ||
I'm not promoting drugs. | ||
Also, Alex does not have control of his mind. | ||
He sees demons at the grocery store when he's sober. | ||
I was going to say, what are you talking about? | ||
The reason that you're fine is because that's how you live all the time. | ||
Right. | ||
That episode with Tyson never came out, probably because you started crying. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
And screaming about demons being in the room or something. | ||
Both of them don't walk out alive if they take mushrooms together, right? | ||
Trump and Alex cannot take mushrooms together, and then both of them still live at the end of this trip. | ||
There's so many possibilities. | ||
That's one of them. | ||
I imagine another one where they create a language. | ||
They sit there, they work out linguistic. | ||
They work out syntax and grammar for a whole new language. | ||
Yeah, you know, it's unfortunate that we know Alex... | ||
Has taken mushrooms in the past. | ||
Otherwise, you're like, hey, maybe mushrooms is the cure for malignant narcissism. | ||
Has anybody tried that? | ||
I actually don't know that he's taken enough mushrooms. | ||
He might have had a little mild trip or something. | ||
Yeah, you gotta go for it. | ||
And that video with Tyson's never come out, so I don't know what happened. | ||
So that's true. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
Maybe they should take mushrooms. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Release the Tyson cut. | ||
I want to see it. | ||
Or don't. | ||
It's probably not worth it. | ||
No, it's not gonna be good. | ||
Also, Trump, a real anti-drug guy. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I believe he wanted drug dealers executed. | ||
He's a teetotaler. | ||
Doesn't even drink. | ||
Yeah, don't think you're going to get him to do shrooms with you, buddy. | ||
It's not going to happen. | ||
No, he's a coward. | ||
Historical document. | ||
It would be. | ||
Alex and Trump on mushrooms, locked in a room. | ||
What do they do? | ||
I mean, you gotta... | ||
That's better than anything that Heisenberg ever came up with. | ||
You know, until you observe that, all outcomes are possible. | ||
You know, there's that 50-50 alive or dead cat? | ||
Nah, nah, nah. | ||
This is quantum theory on steroids! | ||
Yeah, yeah. | ||
It's the sort of entertainment that you just... | ||
It's chaos. | ||
Yeah. | ||
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It's... | |
People would be losing... | ||
They'd be losing it. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
That's what reality TV shows should really be for, is taking people who could otherwise hurt the whole of humanity and making them dance for our amusement. | ||
That would be fun. | ||
Yeah, I was watching some of the Taskmaster, and I was thinking about how that is really what makes the show charming, is essentially trying in a fun way to make people lose their minds. | ||
And that is... | ||
A benign version of it. | ||
I think there's a lot of malicious versions of it in reality TV. | ||
Oh, for sure. | ||
And I think in order for this to work, it would have to be malicious with Alex and Trump. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Well, it would be. | ||
Even if we were trying to be not malicious, the entirety of the idea is built around a malicious thought we have. | ||
So... | ||
What if... | ||
Okay. | ||
They do Mushrooms in a Room. | ||
Uh-huh. | ||
And you leave just one Rubik's Cube in there, but it's rigged so it can never be solved. | ||
And one of them has to shave their head at the end of it. | ||
And then Stone Cold comes in. | ||
And then there's a stunner! | ||
What are we going to do with our lives? | ||
Well, we're going to jump into the 28th. | ||
Let's go for it. | ||
And it's not fun. | ||
Because now the shooting, Alex will actually address it and discuss it. | ||
And so, yeah, from here on out... | ||
Pretty much everything is gonna be gross. | ||
Alex is a gross guy, and shit sucks. | ||
Great. | ||
A lot of lies. | ||
Not as graphic, necessarily, as he is sometimes, so there's at least that. | ||
Saving grace, but yeah, a lot of the rhetoric, pretty shitty. | ||
So, here we go. | ||
Society is collapsing around us. | ||
Every form of crime and degeneracy is exploding off the charts, not just the United States, but worldwide. | ||
We are a fallen civilization. | ||
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And it's only going to get worse. | |
Yesterday, as the mass shooting unfolded in Tennessee at a school where darling little children and others were killed, I did not comment on the broadcast other than saying that the shooting had happened because I wanted to give it time to see what unfolded. | ||
Scott, the producer, walked in right when it happened. | ||
He said, how much money do you want to bet? | ||
This is a transgender person. | ||
And that's because now, about 80% of the time, these school shooters are transgender and the media tries to cover it up. | ||
That's categorically false, no matter how you splice or try to massage the numbers. | ||
What has happened here is that Alex has seen a meme that was floating around in right-wing social media circles that sought to paint the picture that most shooters are LGBTQ, but right out of the gate, they include the Club Q shooter as someone who's non-binary, when all evidence points to the conclusion that that was him trolling? | ||
Yeah. | ||
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In an attempt to avoid hate crime charges, perhaps. | |
In reality, Alex went on air and reported that the shooter in Uvalde was a trans person based on troll posts from places like 4chan. | ||
And to my knowledge, he's never taken the time to apologize or correct that serious misrepresentation. | ||
And actually, he re-reports that. | ||
Later in this episode. | ||
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Great. | |
So that's fun. | ||
Great. | ||
Alex is seeking to paint the picture that the media covers up these school shooters, that these school shooters are trans because if you try to look into it, you'll find that they aren't. | ||
And he needs an explanation for that lack of evidence for his claim. | ||
His position would be totally vindicated if it weren't for an elaborate media cover-up that's going on. | ||
This naturally raises the question of why the media isn't covering up anything about this current shooter and their reported potential gender identity. | ||
It seems like maybe the media doesn't actually cover that stuff up, but Alex needs the audience to think that they do so it's easier for his hate-mongering and exaggeration to fly and be accepted. | ||
The truth or falsity of this statement that LGBTQ people are responsible for the majority of mass shootings or school shootings is a meaningless question to people like Alex. | ||
It doesn't need to be true because the truth or falsity is not what they're conveying to the audience. | ||
Alex is trying to make sure the audience sees LGBTQ folk and trans people in particular as the enemy and a very dangerous enemy. | ||
A very dangerous enemy that the media is covering for. | ||
It's a waste of time to argue the underlying points that someone like Alex or Matt Walsh or Ben Shapiro have been making in the aftermath of this shooting because the underlying points are meaningless to them to begin with. | ||
They're happy to use this tragedy to attack trans people, but lambast people for discussing gun control after any other shooting because they detest the tasteless politicization of tragedy. | ||
They don't detest the politicization, they just know when politicization can be useful to them and they're savvy enough to pretend to be above it when they know they can't use that tragedy. | ||
As much as I do believe that pretending that their underlying points mean anything is a trap, it's still incredibly important to recognize what is going on and to push back on it as strongly as possible. | ||
The anti-trans rhetoric is escalating in ways that It's a strange balancing act because this shooting is being used as an excuse for these right-wing commentators to ramp up their bigotry, but they don't actually care about the shooting. | ||
As we saw earlier in this episode, Alex was doing sensational bullshit anti-trans stories already, and Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles have been calling for an elimination of trans identity for weeks, if not months, prior to this shooting. | ||
They're just using this as a prop. | ||
They hate trans people. | ||
That's the only point... | ||
worth paying attention to, not whatever window dressing they're throwing on their hate today. | ||
They don't care about that window dressing and will abandon it for something new tomorrow if it better serves their purposes. | ||
So this kind of stuff, like this, 80% of shooters are trans people. | ||
It's not worth arguing with. | ||
It's not true, but it also doesn't matter to Alex. | ||
It's not what he's getting across to the audience. | ||
And that can be challenging. | ||
That can be a difficult place to be in, especially in these very aggressive spaces like the social media, you know, where people are firing this stuff off. | ||
And a lot of times are doing it in such a way as to incite backlash upon them because it games the system and gets them far more engagement with their posts. | ||
Yeah. | ||
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So, like, I don't know. | |
I don't have a prescription for it, but it sucks. | ||
I suppose in the world where... | ||
Next week we'll forget about this because there'll be another one. | ||
It doesn't make any sense to try and backlash these assholes. | ||
I mean, Twitter's a shambles. | ||
Facebook is ridiculous. | ||
All of the social medias are dumb. | ||
Media itself is woefully unequipped to handle shit like this. | ||
So it's going to be forgotten next week. | ||
I say, I mean, the only thing I think of is like, here's the job of cis white men. | ||
In this world. | ||
As the anti-trans rhetoric blows up, we've seen this all. | ||
It is our job to put our bodies in between them and trans people. | ||
When possible, yes. | ||
That is our responsibility. | ||
Yeah. | ||
We're the only people who can stand in between them. | ||
And all too often, there's just a support and there's not a willingness to get in the middle. | ||
I agree with that. | ||
When those circumstances present themselves, I don't think that they are always... | ||
Well, I mean, don't walk around and be like, hey, get in front of you. | ||
There's a bus! | ||
You know, like, yes, obviously, but yeah. | ||
I agree with you in principle when that situation presents itself. | ||
Outside of that, I think that there is a real need to push back on this stuff, but like I'm saying, what you're pushing back on is... | ||
Going to be difficult to figure out. | ||
Right. | ||
You know, because so much of this stuff, like I'm saying, is like, they don't really care about the thing that they're saying. | ||
Right. | ||
That's not really important. | ||
I mean... | ||
They're making a crypto argument underneath whatever they're nominally saying. | ||
Right. | ||
Right. | ||
Here's my... | ||
Okay. | ||
It made sense to push back on it a long time ago. | ||
We're way past that. | ||
That's true. | ||
We're way past that. | ||
But we are past whatever point... | ||
You're describing, but at the same time, ignoring things and letting things stand is also not a great option. | ||
No, I mean, I'm just saying there's no point in arguing on social media. | ||
Oh, maybe. | ||
I don't know. | ||
I'm a little agnostic to that. | ||
I think as a person I agree, but that also might be my psychology. | ||
Sure, sure. | ||
I don't know if that's true for everyone, but it might be. | ||
I don't know. | ||
I think that you're not going to achieve anything by arguing these particular points with these folks, for sure. | ||
And I also think that, generally speaking, just saying, like, you are hiding this hate behind these arguments you don't really care about, I don't think that's going to lead anywhere either. | ||
Right, but that's the truth. | ||
That is. | ||
So if the truth isn't going to go anywhere, then don't bother. | ||
And we're already... | ||
Again, this maybe made sense after fucking Columbine. | ||
This maybe made sense after fucking Sandy Hook. | ||
This doesn't... | ||
It doesn't make sense. | ||
Any conversation that you are going to have means nothing. | ||
We're already past it. | ||
It may be. | ||
And maybe the other way to put that, because that's kind of doomy and downer-ish, is there are better places to place attention. | ||
I mean, I'm not saying that that's the end of the conversation. | ||
I'm saying that this conversation needs to... | ||
Because we can no longer do the same thing over and over and over again. | ||
That's fair. | ||
We're way past that. | ||
Those attentions and efforts and time and... | ||
It's got to go somewhere else. | ||
Yeah, it can be channeled in something more productive, perhaps. | ||
Make buttons instead of arguing on Twitter. | ||
Make buttons for everybody you fucking know. | ||
Don't threaten me with a good time. | ||
I mean, that's... | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
Like, there is no point in arguing. | ||
Do a thing physically to help other people. | ||
I think there's a lot to be said for doing something physically to help other people. | ||
I think there's something you get for yourself out of it, and you don't even know. | ||
It's sneaky. | ||
Yeah, right? | ||
Think about that. | ||
You get angry on Twitter, but maybe if you make a button, you'll feel great. | ||
So Alex thinks that he doesn't hate trans people, and the reason is one person. | ||
There are a lot of people that are transgender that are really nice, like Blair White. | ||
Is it Caitlyn Jenner? | ||
Who's a very sweet, smart, good person. | ||
And I think she believes she's a woman and acts like a woman. | ||
If she wants to be a woman, she can be a woman. | ||
She doesn't want to go compete with women in sports, any of that stuff. | ||
But crazed men beating women in sports and women all hopped up on men's hormones now committing mass shootings. | ||
I mean, women never commit mass shootings. | ||
In fact, it's never been heard of. | ||
And now it's happening. | ||
So, of course, Alex likes Blair White. | ||
She's a disaster of a public figure who has all of the same terrible politics and bigotries that Alex and his ilk do, but she's also trans. | ||
She can be used as a prop to prove they don't hate trans people. | ||
Folks like Alex need that pretty desperately. | ||
You can tell that Alex likes Blair White because he thinks she's feminine enough for him to see her as a woman, and her transness doesn't encroach on any of the larger, hollow culture war topics he pretends to care so much about, like women's sports. | ||
In fact, a majority of Blair's public existence is based on trying to place limits on other people's transness and make videos about people who she thinks are going too far or whatever. | ||
Her brand is essentially, I'm one of the good ones. | ||
and look at all these other people who are bad. | ||
Yeah. | ||
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I had actually planned to do an episode about Blair a while back because I think that she exists in a really interesting space. | |
And Alex has been on her podcast twice, so there was some content there. | ||
But I ultimately decided not to because looking into her made me really sad. | ||
And I didn't know what to do with those feelings. | ||
Case in point, three years ago, she put out a video where she was sitting next to her couch on the floor. | ||
Her makeup was smudged from crying where she's discussing something that she'd never talked about before. | ||
Here's a little clip from that, which I found really difficult to reconcile. | ||
I feel like I've lied about certain parts of my life online. | ||
I know I've lied about certain parts of my life online. | ||
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My family. | |
In interviews and in answers during live streams and, like, anytime it's brought up. | ||
I like to paint this picture, which is a lie, like, flat out just fabricated, of that my family is accepting of me and that everything's good and everything's peachy clean and my transition was easy and, like, I don't know why I've lied about that. | ||
So, blatantly, I think it's because it was, like, It's hard to listen to this, because on the one hand, I empathize with Blair's experience, because it obviously wasn't easy for her, as it is for folks, everyone. | ||
I'm certain that that's true. | ||
But, on the other hand, it's incredibly difficult to hold onto too much care about her when you consider the reality of what she's saying. | ||
She didn't lie about her transition being easy because it's somehow emotionally more easy for her to do that. | ||
She did it because if she admitted to the challenges she's faced, it would severely undercut her entire brand. | ||
The people she hates on and who are her political targets are the people who are working to create a better world, where people like young Blair wouldn't have to have had such a hard time being herself. | ||
Acknowledging that you really could have used more care and more support in your younger days means that trans activists have a point, and that that's not a point that you can really rebut unless you pretend that they don't have a point, which you can achieve by pretending that your lived experience doesn't match up at all with what those activist types are saying. | ||
It's profitable for Blair to lie about her transition. | ||
That's why she did it. | ||
Later in the video, she talks about how her dad's side of the family disowned her because she's trans, and that really sucks. | ||
Family alienation is a real nightmare, and no one deserves to experience it. | ||
that just for being themselves. | ||
Given that she's experienced all this in her life, I don't believe for a second that she doesn't realize that Alex Jones's career in rhetoric is designed around creating more people like her dad's family. | ||
I don't believe for a second that she doesn't realize that the brand she's created is trying to position herself as the one good trans person, which facilitates the stigmatization of all trans people who aren't her. | ||
On some level, she understands this. | ||
This next clip from that video really spoke to me about that awareness. | ||
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Anytime I've been lucky enough to do... | |
Television, I've always, like, tried to contact my family just to be like, hey, like, you know, turn on this channel at this time. | ||
Just because I thought maybe if they see that I'm successful and I'm not some, like, horrible transgender stereotype of a prostitute or, like, just a desolate, like, person that maybe they would come around and say maybe, you know, Blair's not that bad. | ||
But... | ||
Blair wanted her family to see that she was one of the good ones. | ||
They hate her for who she is, but maybe if they saw that she was also demonizing trans people, they would accept her then. | ||
She's essentially discussing chasing the acceptance and approval of people who hate a fundamental aspect of who she is, which she's never going to achieve with her family, but she can achieve with Alex and all these other right-wing figures. | ||
There's a profit motive there, and they need somebody they can use as a prop to deflect criticism about their transphobia, so she'll be adored in that circle, which she is. | ||
But it comes with a cost, and apparently, even though it hurts quite a bit, Blair thinks that arrangement is worth it. | ||
So no, I don't particularly care if Alex likes Blair White, because he doesn't, actually. | ||
Or at least he wouldn't if she was honest about her experience, because then she'd say that her dad's family disowned her for being trans, and Alex would have to admit that he thinks that they did the right thing. | ||
Anyway, sorry about that little side trip. | ||
Back to Alex's actual clip, there have been female mass shooters before. | ||
It's certainly more rare than male ones, but they do exist. | ||
Nassim Agdam carried out the shooting at the U-T-S, Uh, yeah, I mean, to your point... | ||
Blair wasn't elevated. | ||
There was just a job opportunity. | ||
You know, there was an opening. | ||
The right anti-trans needed a trans person. | ||
And she took the job because there was something she hoped to gain from that, which is the acceptance and approval of her family. | ||
Unfortunately, she went the wrong route. | ||
That was never going to happen. | ||
Perhaps. | ||
I mean, there's some elements of psychoanalyzing, but who knows exactly why she took whatever career that she did. | ||
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Apologies. | |
It was a job opportunity. | ||
I'm not saying that I understand the reasons that she chose it. | ||
What she has said in the clip right there is indicative of that. | ||
It's clear that that was a hope. | ||
Yeah, absolutely. | ||
I don't know, it bums me out. | ||
And I think you can see from just those two clips why I was like, I'm not going to do a whole episode about this. | ||
Because there is a bit of like, ah, damn. | ||
I find it very difficult when these right-wing figures have these moments of vulnerability that you can kind of see through to humanity beneath it. | ||
Because... | ||
I don't know. | ||
Whoops! | ||
You shouldn't have done it. | ||
Well, it also shows an awareness that makes it almost worse. | ||
No, it makes it way worse. | ||
It makes it way worse. | ||
You're purposefully and willfully hurting a community that would welcome you. | ||
With open arms. | ||
What a bummer. | ||
Yeah. | ||
What a bummer. | ||
Anyway, Alex hates... | ||
He doesn't hate trans people. | ||
He thinks. | ||
He hates transgenderness or something. | ||
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Sure. | |
Hate the sin, not the sinner. | ||
Is a Tabastock Institute MI6 CIA creation to launch the transhumanist movement? | ||
Because if you'll accept a man being a woman, a woman being a man, if you'll accept two men having a baby when it's two women or a man and a woman. | ||
Arnold Schwarzenegger had a baby. | ||
If you will accept that, you'll accept chimeric humanoids that are made out of three or four dads. | ||
That would be cool. | ||
I do not think that the average person that is living like that is a mass shooter or a bad person. | ||
That said, the entire movement is a synthetic creation for depopulation and to totally confuse society and break up the family, and that's admitted. | ||
Alex's position is incoherent. | ||
If he believed the things he's saying sincerely, he would not support and platform someone like Blair White. | ||
If Alex truly believed that transgenderism is a plot by the Tavistock Institute to bring in transhumanism and destroy the family, then the people who are trans are people who have been fooled by the Tavistock Institute. | ||
Well, I mean, not just that, but you can never trust anyone who is brainwashed by the... | ||
The Havistock Institute and the CI fucking A. Right. | ||
I mean, if you're brainwashed on one front, who knows how many others? | ||
I mean, well, the obvious thing is that the CIA would be like, well, we want to put a plant in here. | ||
That's the most obvious thing. | ||
Yeah. | ||
In reality, if this were 15, 20 years ago, the Tavistock Institute's evil plan to destroy the family would be getting people to accept gay folks because this stuff doesn't really mean anything. | ||
This is just adding an intellectual-sounding rationale behind the present day's bigotry. | ||
Right. | ||
Which is, again, another reason why these conversations are so repetitive and pointless is just... | ||
Yes, I understand the nonsense you're saying, but you don't understand that I heard this nonsense five years ago, and then I heard it ten years ago, and then I heard it fifteen years ago. | ||
It's the window dressing changing. | ||
I was raised on Dr. James fucking Dobson. | ||
Dobby! | ||
A focus on the goddamn family. | ||
I know your dumb fuck arguments, okay? | ||
So shut up. | ||
So Alex, while discussing this shooting, brings up what I would describe as maybe the first source he has on this. | ||
Here's a breakdown. | ||
Notice a pattern? | ||
Colorado Springs shooter identifies as non-binary. | ||
Denver shooter identified as trans. | ||
The Evaldi shooter was into that, too. | ||
Aberdeen shooter identifies as trans. | ||
Nashville shooter identified as trans. | ||
Confused, freaked out, whacked out people on major, major, major hormones. | ||
And, you know, I've talked to a lot of medical doctors about the sum of the years, and they make the point that... | ||
You know the group that gives divorces the most often in married couples? | ||
Statistically, is people doing hormone therapy to try to get pregnant. | ||
A 45-year-old woman trying to get pregnant, they have to put them on a bunch of hormones to get them jacked up to do it, and they go crazy. | ||
Jacked up. | ||
And I've known people that tried to get pregnant and did get pregnant. | ||
One person I know had twins out of it, but they barely maintain their... | ||
So this, like I said, is about the first primary source Alex is citing in terms of his coverage of the shooting, and it's that meme that went around, which is super inaccurate. | ||
Sweet. | ||
The Colorado Springs shooter was the Club Q shooter, and the Uvalde shooter wasn't even in the meme, but Alex vaguely remembers his own shitty reporting, so he throws them in. | ||
Yeah, why not? | ||
This isn't a sincere point that's being made, and honestly, it comes off more like parody. | ||
These are the examples that these folks can find, whereas the thousands of other mass shootings apparently didn't happen or something. | ||
Further, whenever there are these shootings, Alex insists on not ascribing group blame. | ||
He screams about how all white people are to blame for shooting because the shooter was a white supremacist, or how all gun owners are being blamed because the person had a ton of guns with them. | ||
It's easy to see how that is kind of a meaningless principle for him, and he's more than willing to throw it to the side when there's the opportunity to imply group blame on groups he doesn't like. | ||
When that pops up, that opportunity, he takes it. | ||
He doesn't want to feel like groups he's a part of are being discussed in relation to mass shootings. | ||
But if it's a group he spends most of his time demonizing, group blame is pretty cool. | ||
I don't know about the pregnancy hormone divorce thing. | ||
I have no idea how I would go about checking up on it since apparently it's something some doctor personally told Alex. | ||
But it's weird that the example Alex comes up with isn't a guy on steroids. | ||
Or maybe that hits too close to home. | ||
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I don't know. | |
Maybe he doesn't want to bring any attention to that. | ||
I mean, I wrestle with this. | ||
I wrestle with this thought. | ||
I am disgusted by how many people are willing to think that this is notable. | ||
Because to me, this is a statistical inevitability. | ||
It doesn't mean anything. | ||
And the only people who are making it mean more than it does are, well, people profiting off of it. | ||
I get what you're saying. | ||
You're talking about the shooting. | ||
I get what you're saying. | ||
And here is what I would say in response to that. | ||
First of all, everything is tragic. | ||
Second... | ||
While there is an inevitability about it in living in our bad present day, there is also... | ||
When you're saying, you know, like basically talking about it is like, it's inevitable. | ||
Why are you making a big deal out of it? | ||
Fair enough. | ||
Fair enough. | ||
Keep going. | ||
There are... | ||
Malicious actors, folks like Alex, folks like Matt Walsh, Ben Shapiro, these folks in particular who have been more than willing to talk about it in a way to use this event in order to steer hate in a certain direction. | ||
That is worth talking about. | ||
I would contend that that is. | ||
I get what you're saying in terms of the futility of talking about, like, gun violence and stuff. | ||
And that is a bummer. | ||
That is very disappointing that we keep doing this and we keep coming to an end where progress isn't made. | ||
We end up in the same situation and there will be another shooting in a week or whatever. | ||
That sucks. | ||
That is... | ||
There is a feeling of futility surrounding that conversation and I understand where you're coming from. | ||
However... | ||
I think there does need to be a big deal made out of resisting and pushing back against the narrative building that people like Alex and his ilk are engaging in surrounding the shooting. | ||
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I mean, yes. | |
Yes. | ||
That I do agree with. | ||
I just don't find this shooting particularly notable as compared to the last one. | ||
You listed off multiple shootings. | ||
By women that I did not even remember or know about. | ||
Those seem to be notable to me, right? | ||
We've talked about them on the podcast. | ||
That's what I'm saying, Dan. | ||
I understand. | ||
That is my point exactly. | ||
I understand that, and I don't think these are two things that are at odds with each other. | ||
I agree with you there. | ||
But I would say the reason that this shooting is notable... | ||
And should be treated as such is the conversation that's surrounding it and the way that it is being used as an excuse to ramp up transphobia and a hostile environment towards a particular group. | ||
Right. | ||
And I mean, I agree with that, but I agree with that because that's a generalized statement. | ||
If this wasn't the thing that we were talking about for their attack on trans people, it would be trans people were at the store. | ||
It wouldn't be as aggressive. | ||
You're shrugging at me. | ||
I mean, am I? | ||
Would it be as aggressive? | ||
It wouldn't be. | ||
Maybe it wouldn't be as aggressive. | ||
How far off would it be? | ||
Quite. | ||
Quite a bit. | ||
Maybe. | ||
Shooting and murder of people at an elementary school is a potent fuel in a way that people being at the store is not. | ||
It triggers people's emotional centers in a way that you can build things that are far more nefarious out of it than you could otherwise. | ||
You override a lot of people's critical thinking abilities when especially murdered children are involved. | ||
And so, no, I disagree with your premise. | ||
I mean, then my question to you is, I mean, do you think that this is just accelerated? | ||
It's just accelerant. | ||
Do you know what I mean? | ||
Like, this incident is... | ||
The way it's being used, I believe. | ||
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Right. | |
Yeah. | ||
Right. | ||
So the problem with this is that it's an accelerant to a fire that's already happening. | ||
Yeah, but I don't think anyone would disagree with that. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Yeah. | ||
But when an accelerant is added to something, you've got to be careful and you've got to take it seriously. | ||
Sure, sure. | ||
I mean, I'm just looking at a house on fire and people are like, watch out for that gasoline that you're throwing on it. | ||
And I'm like, no, I understand. | ||
The gasoline is bad. | ||
I agree with you wholeheartedly. | ||
This house on fire does not need more gasoline. | ||
I understand your metaphor, and I think in the case of a literal fire, I agree with you. | ||
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Yeah. | |
I just don't think that... | ||
The metaphor is exactly applicable because you're saying people aren't trying to put out the fire. | ||
People aren't working on that. | ||
Or whatever. | ||
Whereas in the case of a fire, firefighters come and they can... | ||
Sure, sure. | ||
Whereas in this case, it's not as... | ||
Not to say that firefighting's an easy job. | ||
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Right. | |
But it's not as simple as, hey, we just gotta throw water here. | ||
Right, right, right. | ||
Because if it were, then the... | ||
A lot of good people who are doing a lot of good work would have thrown that water already. | ||
Of course. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Yeah. | ||
We agree. | ||
I don't think we disagree, but I don't think a lot of the way you're coming at it is necessarily what I would agree with. | ||
I think we agree larger picture, but maybe some of the feelings I don't agree with. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I mean, I respect that. | ||
That's fine. | ||
Not everybody has to have the same feelings all the time. | ||
I don't know what else to say. | ||
Yes, I agree with you and I accept you. | ||
Sweet. | ||
So anyway, Alex lies more about all these shootings. | ||
All these shooters are trans people. | ||
And as they hype the mass shootings, they will increase and they will get worse because mentally ill people are now taught, you don't just become transgender, you go out and you shoot and you kill people. | ||
And now the majority of mass shooters... | ||
That are technically the totally senseless type, because the FBI averages in gang shootings that are at schools, and then says, well, half of them are black on black, or black on Hispanic, or Hispanic on Hispanic. | ||
But if you take those out that are gang shootings, and you just have raw going to school, shoot a bunch of kids, this is it. | ||
And they fight to hide that. | ||
But these are the incredibly unhappy, depressed, demonically brainwashed, I mean, I don't know what term we should really use to break it down, but we have a lower animal brain. | ||
I would challenge Alex on his claim that he's making about most school shootings being trans people. | ||
I know that it's not true, and he's just making it up to demonize a group of people he doesn't like, but... | ||
I would like to see him have to defend his position. | ||
Yeah, even a little bit. | ||
Yeah, what source are you pulling that from? | ||
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Anything. | |
And I swear, I swear, it cannot be an unverified, made-up conversation with a high-level, anonymous source. | ||
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Totally. | |
It cannot be. | ||
Please. | ||
I will add meme to that. | ||
It also cannot be a meme. | ||
No, it can be, because then we can discard it. | ||
Well, that's fair. | ||
Yeah, I will reject it if you want to present that. | ||
It won't fly, but that's... | ||
All right. | ||
So Judge Dan has said you cannot bring forth the evidence from a third-party doctor conversation. | ||
No, no, no. | ||
You can bring the meme for that is physical evidence, and I shall remove it from my courtroom. | ||
And I will laugh at you. | ||
It is exactly like when Raynal brought in his props. | ||
His board? | ||
Do you remember the board? | ||
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Oh, we got it. | |
You gotta get that. | ||
I wanted that poster. | ||
That's somewhere in a dumpster that I'm willing to die for. | ||
It's gone. | ||
Yeah, you're right. | ||
It wasn't made to last. | ||
It was for the day. | ||
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Yeah. | |
So anyway, Alex starts rambling about how trans people are demonic and stuff because that's what he thinks. | ||
I wanted to show this video last Friday saying here's the spirit of the New World Order of a young lady. | ||
Looks like she's on steroids or something. | ||
Totally crazed. | ||
Smoking out of a vape pen. | ||
Acting completely demonically possessed. | ||
But when you see that, ladies and gentlemen, that's the face of the wavelength these people have dialed into. | ||
And it's a spirit of selfishness, a spirit of hatred. | ||
It's a demonic spirit. | ||
And that's what hardcore drugs does to you. | ||
And look at the tattoo on her chest of a big demon. | ||
And that, my friends, is why we have guns. | ||
So that when these whacked out devils... | ||
What? | ||
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What? | |
Former humans that fell to Satan... | ||
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What? | |
...come to hurt us and come to hurt our children... | ||
Jesus. | ||
...like a moth to flame. | ||
We can protect the children like the police officers did. | ||
Let's go ahead and roll the footage again of them taking this young, disturbed, taken-over person out. | ||
Yeah, he seems to relish a little bit in playing the video of the shooter being killed. | ||
And it's a little bit poor taste. | ||
You know, I haven't had... | ||
I didn't look this up. | ||
I'm going to go ahead and look this up right now. | ||
But the thought I had is... | ||
Every time we read about a suicide, there is always the suicide prevention hotline. | ||
What I have not seen is a school shooting prevention hotline. | ||
To me, one of the simplest things that we should have is a, are you in the place where you're thinking of doing this? | ||
Call this number. | ||
Because to me, it is... | ||
So similar to a suicide. | ||
It might as well be the same fucking line. | ||
I think a lot of people probably have that as a part of their plan. | ||
People who go through with shootings probably don't intend necessarily to come out the other end. | ||
Right, right. | ||
And I feel like one simple thing that we could have for all of these articles that we read pretty fucking constantly... | ||
Is a note, is a resource, is something at the end of this article to say, if you are one of these people who is concerned about your own actions, who is thinking about doing these things, call this hotline and we can talk to you about that. | ||
It's anonymous, obviously, and there's no cops, which is the first thing that I would say. | ||
Sure. | ||
But that is a positive resource, an outlet that can be there. | ||
I don't think that would work, but as I'm hearing you say it, it's something to try. | ||
I mean, we're not doing anything. | ||
It could bear results. | ||
I mean, maybe it saves one school. | ||
Yeah, that matters. | ||
That matters, you know? | ||
We should have this resource available for the people who are thinking of doing this, because this is... | ||
This is a suicide, one way or the other. | ||
This is a rejection of one's own life. | ||
Yeah, I wonder if something like that does exist and it's just not published. | ||
I just looked it up and I didn't see it. | ||
That's why I was like, before I bring this up, I better look it up to see if there is one. | ||
And I didn't see any. | ||
I saw all these, like, if you're at a school, here's what you should do to stop a shooter. | ||
And none of these, like, hey, if you're thinking of doing this, here's a resource for you. | ||
Yeah, I think a lot of things, just in general, of destigmatizing the idea of asking for help. | ||
I think a lot of people maybe have... | ||
Impressions growing up that feeling like you need help makes you weak. | ||
I know I did. | ||
And maybe helping people not feel that way could also be helpful. | ||
I mean, just having somebody that you can rely on and trust to talk to you. | ||
And who you know won't lie to you. | ||
And isn't a cop. | ||
And isn't a fucking cop! | ||
Also, Alex is full of transphobic garbage and that's a lot of bullshit. | ||
Yeah, I was trying to focus on something that we can do about it instead of... | ||
Wallowing in how fucking miserable and awful this human being is. | ||
Yeah, he sucks. | ||
Yep. | ||
And keeps going. | ||
He sucks more. | ||
Let's go ahead and roll the footage again of them taking this young, disturbed, taken over person out and understand it is good people with guns that stopped this monster before she was able to kill even more people. | ||
And notice we are misgendering her because we misgender on purpose. | ||
No, the real gender is she's a woman hopped up on a bunch of hormones and drugs who fell to the dark side. | ||
So wild to hear that cops are now good guys with guns. | ||
The whole good guys with guns narrative is that you needed to have a gun on you so you could act fast before the police were able to arrive because there was a delay. | ||
Remember his Uvalde shooting coverage? | ||
It seems real strange. | ||
Almost like none of this means anything. | ||
None of it matters. | ||
Alex is just relishing in watching this person be shot. | ||
Could be what he's saying. | ||
To the matter of him misgendering on purpose, that speaks volumes about his position on trans people. | ||
He believes they do not exist. | ||
In his mind, he's willing to put up with what he considers Blair White's dumb, inaccurate self-perception because she's useful to him and because she has the right kind of hateful politics, but he definitely does not think that she's a woman. | ||
He's willing to extend her the courtesy of not misgendering her because it's advantageous to him. | ||
But when the rubber meets the road, if she were to insist to Alex that she's a woman and that it's not play-acting for her, Alex would not agree with that. | ||
If he were her dad's side of the family and she insisted on him accepting that aspect of her identity, he would disown her in a second and then maliciously misgender her whenever she came up. | ||
That's who Alex is. | ||
He's not misgendering the shooter because they're a shooter. | ||
That doesn't factor into the assessment of whether or not their gender identity was valid. | ||
Alex believes this about all trans people. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Quite plainly. | ||
It's such a bummer. | ||
with with Blair you know that job opportunity is always open you don't have to take that job because that job entails being paid well and yet always living Mm-hmm. | ||
Mm-hmm. | ||
Then you're not going to be welcomed back into the trans community. | ||
Maybe some people will forgive. | ||
They probably will, but that's because they're better people. | ||
I think on the more liberal and progressive sides, there is an interest in rehabilitative. | ||
Sure. | ||
Restorative. | ||
Yeah, I can see that. | ||
I think that people can come back from pretty negative places. | ||
Assuming that they're willing to do the work and really inspect what they were up to before. | ||
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But yeah, it's all just a bummer. | ||
Yep. | ||
You live on the knife's edge. | ||
It's pretty shitty. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
Yep. | ||
Oh, well. | ||
Yep. | ||
So, the good guys with guns were the cops. | ||
And here's another rewriting of everything. | ||
I'm not glad that the killer's dead. | ||
I wish that they wouldn't have fallen to Satan, but... | ||
There's a real sense of satisfaction knowing that she was unable to kill more people. | ||
And it was the Second Amendment that stopped this monster that planned this out reportedly according to the police for months. | ||
It was going to hit another school but didn't hit it because they had too much security. | ||
But this is the lesson. | ||
Locks on a door are not what protected the children. | ||
It was guns. | ||
The Second Amendment doesn't factor into this at all. | ||
No. | ||
It was armed police who stopped the shooter. | ||
If anything, the Second Amendment helped make the shooting happen because the shooter was able to buy all those guns totally legally. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I honestly think Alex is really confused on this one. | ||
He's evoking good guy with a gun talking points and saying that the Second Amendment came to the rescue, but none of that's involved here at all. | ||
I suspect it's because he needs to skirt around some of his more general shooting narratives, like it being a false flag or how they need to arm the teachers. | ||
Those are good when he needs to distract from the details about the shooter because they're super right-wing white guys who have identical politics to Alex. | ||
In this case, the identity of the shooter is central to the right-wing media's approach, so Alex has to dispel with some of his normal distraction-based talking points. | ||
And it's kind of weird to listen to, honestly. | ||
He seems in a strange place. | ||
There's a lot of hate, obviously, which is he understands what he's doing there. | ||
But yeah, the talking about the shooting is convoluted. | ||
I mean, he doesn't have that much practice. | ||
In this specific circumstance, this is a little bit new for him. | ||
So, I imagine so, yeah. | ||
So Alex has a guest coming on. | ||
And don't worry, we're not going to listen to him because he's a pile of shit troll. | ||
So this is a planned operation. | ||
Now, that said, Alex Stein's coming on next hour to talk about this. | ||
He just got attacked over the weekend going to one of these events. | ||
Because these are entitled, hateful people on average that are the activists that really usually aren't even trans. | ||
Their main thing is access to children. | ||
And there is a always huge pedophilic vibe in the air. | ||
Oh, really? | ||
Fuck off. | ||
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Yeah. | |
So, Alex Stein... | ||
I got no respect for him as even a person to listen to. | ||
I really, really resent people who insist on kind of having it both ways of the, like, never know whether I'm joking or if this position is something I should be taken seriously for. | ||
I really, really, really don't like that kind of bullshit. | ||
He dances in those waters a lot. | ||
And then also he has essentially a career that revolves almost entirely around trying to bait outrage from people in order to get attention. | ||
Yeah. | ||
So he can fuck right off. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I'm deplatforming him. | ||
Yeah, I think that's a good idea. | ||
I like that. | ||
Yeah, just no interest. | ||
Yeah, you know, I keep coming back to that idea of a phone, you know, a hotline. | ||
Like, if this was planned for months, right? | ||
Obviously, she can't talk to anybody because everybody is the target. | ||
And you would assume that there would probably be moments where you're thinking, like, maybe I have doubts. | ||
This is crazy. | ||
You'd hope there would be those moments. | ||
Well, I mean, if you're planning for months on anything, you have to have doubts. | ||
Otherwise, you would have just gone and done it, right? | ||
That is true. | ||
So who are they going to talk to? | ||
They can't talk to anybody at the school. | ||
Again, the school is the target. | ||
They can't talk to their parents. | ||
Their parents are part of the reason we're here. | ||
Well, from what I understand, they were a former student there. | ||
Not current. | ||
I mean, all of these things. | ||
I understand the details here. | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
But you understand what I'm saying here. | ||
You know what I'm saying? | ||
Like, this is an intervention point that no one has the ability to intervene on, because that's the reason. | ||
And the only way for it to be intervened on almost is self-directed from the person. | ||
It has to be. | ||
And it has to be anonymous, and it has to be, you know... | ||
Again, I don't know how many people would apprise themselves of that, but I think there's something interesting there. | ||
So, we're not going to listen to Alex Stein. | ||
But we are going to listen to Alex get really weird, some transphobia, and then also something really weird. | ||
Okay. | ||
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I prefer weird. | |
You can do whatever you want, paint your hair however you want, and have sex with whoever you want, as long as they're considering adult. | ||
You think I'm actually running around thinking about trans people all day or hating them? | ||
No, I'm not. | ||
Actually, yes, kind of. | ||
I'm a live-and-live guy. | ||
But in the roaring 20s of Germany... | ||
They had the transgender movement that spread worldwide from there. | ||
Got picked up later in the 60s by British intelligence. | ||
And it is the hallmark of a society before it collapses. | ||
And the system knows this, so they've accelerated it. | ||
In the 60s and 70s, they did the famous rat studies where they would have contained cities of rats and give them all the food and all the water they wanted. | ||
Within three generations, the males become trans and the females become the bosses. | ||
And then within another generation, they all just start eating each other or committing suicide. | ||
And then within about eight generations, there are no rats left. | ||
We've done a whole show. | ||
Whole shows! | ||
So in this rat city, did they achieve Bronze Age tools? | ||
That's my first question. | ||
We'll get to all this in a minute. | ||
Okay, that's my first question. | ||
So trans stuff didn't start in Germany pre-World War II, but Alex is kind of tipping his Nazi cards here. | ||
Right? | ||
One of the first targets of the Nazis was the Institute for Sexual Science and its head Magnus Hirschfeld. | ||
Hirschfeld was a pioneer in research around issues related to sex and gender, which were seen as societal perversions and attacked by the Nazis and their rise to power. | ||
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On May 6th, 1933, the Institute was ransacked by Nazi youth along with SA officers. | ||
Much of the materials that were looted from that were burned in a giant book burning shortly after. | ||
If Alex believes that trans identity being accepted is a sign of society and collapse, then he has to think that the Nazis were trying to stop that collapse. | ||
Yeah. | ||
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At the very least, Alex and the Nazis were not going to die. | |
Yeah, I'm confused. | ||
He pretty much just said, yeah, I love the Nazis. | ||
Yeah, maybe like some of their work. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Alex is also just making shit up about these rat studies. | ||
So he's talking about John B. Calhoun's experiments, which gave rise to the concept of behavioral sync. | ||
This isn't about the decadence or generational decay. | ||
The thing that was discovered by these experiments was that if rats are in an enclosed space and allowed to reproduce freely, their behavioral patterns will change in strange ways. | ||
Calhoun found that in this artificial setting, the rats tended to impose their own areas of high population density. | ||
They could spread out to tons of other areas, but they ended up congregating heavily in the pen that was... | ||
Interesting. | ||
He found, quote, In the case of eating, this transformation did not keep the animals from securing adequate nutrition, but the same pathological togetherness that tended to disrupt the ordered sequences of activity involved in other vital modes of behavior, such as courting of sex partners, the building of nests, and the nursing and care of the young. | ||
In the experiments in which the behavioral sink developed, infant mortality ran as high as 96% among the most disordered groups in the population. | ||
A large part of this has to do with the effect of overcrowding on disruption of rat behavior, which was somewhat mitigated in other parts of the pens, where the population density didn't get as high. | ||
In these pens, infant mortality was much lower. | ||
Generally, they'd have less rats in there. | ||
They wouldn't end up congregating into this one pen. | ||
And they would have a male rat who would establish dominance over a harem of female rats who would then have the time and space to protect their young during weaning. | ||
There were dominant males, and then underneath them, in this societal weirdness, there were some males that were unable to distinguish sexual partners. | ||
They would try to mate with male rats, juveniles, and females that were not in estrus. | ||
I'm not sure if this is the dynamic that Alex is depicting. | ||
I'm sure Alex isn't depicting it accurately, but that's kind of what he's hearkening to. | ||
They also found that some non-dominant rats began to become basically sleepwalkers, only going to eat when everyone else was asleep. | ||
They were completely passive, never engaging in fights for dominance, nor even trying to... | ||
trying to fuck female rats. | ||
Just kind of like weird night monks. | ||
Right, right. | ||
There were also a small group of hypersexual rats that Calhoun called the Probers, who were totally out of pocket. | ||
They were just trying to fuck anything and they didn't engage in cannibalism. | ||
They were also total creeps, hiding out on perches, trying to stare at female rats. | ||
It's interesting because you can sort of see how you would personify the behavior or anthropomorphize it. | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. | ||
No, I get it. | ||
Yeah. | ||
I mean, the problem that I have with this research is that it boils down to me to stuff acts weird when you put it in a cage, which I feel like I already knew. | ||
I mean, the specifics on how things act weird when you put it in a cage. | ||
A lot of it's pretty unexpected. | ||
Totally. | ||
I get it. | ||
And that's weird, but maybe the solution is we should never have put stuff in cages. | ||
So in a second experimental setup, they found that this behavioral sink didn't develop when they offered the rats powdered food instead of the food that they had to be getting out of the hopper. | ||
The powder was easier to eat quickly, so the act of eating didn't become a strange social thing, and overcrowding in that collective eating pen didn't end up happening. | ||
They kind of theorized that some of it had to do with it taking longer to eat from these hoppers. | ||
Sure. | ||
And so then it became a normalized thing that rats only ate when other rats were around. | ||
Sure. | ||
And then it just became super overcrowded and it led to a breakdown of all these behavioral, just sort of normal patterns. | ||
Right, right, right. | ||
It was Maslow's hierarchy of rat needs. | ||
Yes. | ||
Yeah, okay. | ||
Calhoun's experiments are really interesting for what they are, but I'm not certain they can be applied to humans. | ||
I kind of think that it might even be a really bad idea to try to. | ||
I mean, I disagree. | ||
I think you can apply it to humans. | ||
If you put humans in cages, they're going to start acting weird. | ||
They will start acting weird, but I think probably in a different way and as unexpected as this. | ||
And maybe don't put them in cages! | ||
So even if these theories and these things that you learn from these experiments could be used that way, they reflect the effect of too high a population density on rat behavior, not whatever Alex is going on about. | ||
Also, Alex is pretty much just making up everything about this experiment's results just based on a vague memory he has of reading some headline about it years ago. | ||
The male rats didn't become trans, the females didn't become the boss, the rats weren't all cannibalistic and suicidal, and they weren't all dead after the eighth generation. | ||
This is the kind of information you're gonna get from Alex Jones. | ||
Shit he's making up about experiments he doesn't understand or remember being deployed in order to demonize vulnerable populations while very cryptically supporting the Nazis. | ||
This is not information that is worth being taken seriously. | ||
Yeah, I mean, in terms of an argument, if you distill it down, it sums up something along the lines of, it's okay for me to kill trans people because rat society devolved. | ||
I guess. | ||
One time in an experiment. | ||
That's a reading. | ||
That seems like what he's kind of trying to argue there. | ||
And the Nazis were right. | ||
Anyway, a lot of this sucks, and there's so much just hate in this that I was like, I'm going to read this stuff. | ||
Yeah, I mean, I agree. | ||
No, that was a respite that I was grateful for. | ||
Something else. | ||
I'd like to learn about rat society. | ||
Yeah. | ||
So in this next clip, Alex very weirdly and confusingly tells his audience not to be violent in retribution, I guess. | ||
Great. | ||
Here's what I want to announce and say. | ||
The obvious cause and effect of this is going to be another disturbed but angry, pissed-off person is going to go to a drag queen storytime or one of these trans rallies they have everywhere and is going to shoot a bunch of these people. | ||
That is the last thing that needs to happen. | ||
And we need to up front say we do not want that. | ||
People are going to want to avenge these dead kids and other Christians. | ||
Christians are being targeted. | ||
But there's a time to turn the other cheek. | ||
And the trans cult minions and gremlins of the system should not be harmed. | ||
They should be arrested if they hurt children or get caught doing pedophilia or any of that. | ||
We should pass laws they can't target children. | ||
But we do not need anybody... | ||
To go attack one of these events or attack any transgender person. | ||
And let me go further. | ||
I'm not calling for violence. | ||
But if you want to know who does all this and who created all this, the history of it's on record. | ||
So, I want to target those groups by exposing them and call for legal action against them. | ||
I guess he wants to sue the Tavistock Institute. | ||
What you need to understand is, again, the language, the translation of this. | ||
Alex recognizes that almost certainly, based on the rhetoric that's flying around, based on the way that people are exploiting this to ramp up transphobia, somebody is going to do something violent. | ||
And Alex knows that, and he's trying to get ahead of it. | ||
Preemptive damage control. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Yep. | ||
That's all that was. | ||
I mean, it is fucked up, you know? | ||
If you do preemptive damage control, then it kind of implies you know the damage is your fault. | ||
At least you're a part of it. | ||
Yep. | ||
So I think that's admitting you're the problem? | ||
Yep. | ||
Yep. | ||
Anyway, Alex thinks that trans people are zombies, and then he does your favorite thing, which is... | ||
Pray on air? | ||
Nope. | ||
Say a bunch of words that mean the same thing on a laundry fucking list. | ||
And if you want to know who the enemy is, it's those engineers, the cultural engineers, on the top that are doing all this. | ||
And they're the ones that are the enemy. | ||
Not when you go to one of these pathetic events and there is a bunch of zombie-looking crazy people that look like they have been put in a mutation chamber. | ||
Howling and screaming and running around foaming at the mouth. | ||
I mean, those are people that we lost to the enemy. | ||
Doesn't mean we don't protect the children. | ||
We lost them? | ||
Doesn't mean we don't stay far back from. | ||
But they are just the zombies that fell to the enemy. | ||
It is the dark globalist alchemist of evil and their science of human destruction that is the fount. | ||
The fountain. | ||
The heart. | ||
The headwater. | ||
The progenitor. | ||
The general. | ||
The commander. | ||
The master. | ||
The king. | ||
The field marshal. | ||
The head honcho. | ||
The El Jefe. | ||
That is running all this. | ||
Ooh, we made it to three. | ||
The big cheese. | ||
Because the next wave is coming. | ||
Government forced suicide on children. | ||
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Sure. | |
Sure. | ||
Sure! | ||
We're going to come back with Tucker Carlson predicting it all. | ||
Oh, Tucker Carlson predicted it all. | ||
Sure. | ||
So Alex has a clip of Tucker supposedly predicting that transviolence was coming. | ||
It's so strange how he sees Tucker saying that, and then, you know, the supposedly trans person comes. | ||
Here's the difficulty. | ||
I felt like all the news was covering this, the shooter was trans, and then just before we started recording, I saw an NBC News article that is a bit of, like, there's a little bit of uncertainty about exactly what the identity of the shooter was. | ||
Well, they're dead. | ||
Right. | ||
That's true. | ||
So they can't really choose anymore. | ||
But people who knew the person didn't... | ||
Have any indication that they were trans. | ||
They had another name that they went by and had he, him pronouns on one of their social media accounts. | ||
And you can make assumptions from there. | ||
And I think that maybe it's a fair assumption. | ||
Sure. | ||
But it called into question some of the definitiveness of it. | ||
And so that's up in my head a little bit about like... | ||
What is known and what isn't known. | ||
Right, right, right. | ||
You know, I don't want to take some kind of an assumption. | ||
Well, I think what we are doing, though, is exactly what we discussed earlier, and that is talking about this in the context of the damage it's being used to do. | ||
As opposed to wallowing in the identity or misidentity of a shooter. | ||
Right, but here's the only reason I even bring it up, is because I was using a sentence and I said, a trans person did a shooting, and now I'm like... | ||
I'm in my head of like, you know. | ||
Fair, fair, fair. | ||
I get you. | ||
I get you. | ||
But what I'm saying is, Tucker said this shit about transviolence coming, this happens, and now the conclusion is that Tucker called it. | ||
Right. | ||
Literally every single time I've seen Alex have someone say something was going to happen, and then it supposedly happens, it's proof that the person who made the prediction is responsible for the event happening. | ||
The prediction was predictive programming. | ||
Like how it was a smoking gun that Fauci said that Trump would face a novel disease in his administration. | ||
That was proof that Fauci unleashed COVID. | ||
Alex interprets things that other media figures and officials say however works best for him. | ||
So much of his show and the ideas behind it really do just come down to his whims. | ||
And I think it's profoundly sad that there are people out there who think that an idiot's whim is a good barometer for truth. | ||
So here's Alex introducing the clip of Tucker. | ||
We're not going to listen to Tucker's actual clip, but here's him introducing it. | ||
But let's get back to Tucker Carlson. | ||
Here's Tucker Carlson being criticized last week on March 24th, all over Rolling Stone, you name it. | ||
This one's LGBTQ Nation. | ||
Tucker Carlson is afraid gun-toting trans people will start political violence. | ||
And then a few days later, three days later, his prophecy comes true. | ||
So here's Tucker from Friday, and it happens on Monday. | ||
Here's part of the report. | ||
So, even just based on that, I don't know if I can say that Tucker was vindicated. | ||
The shooting wasn't necessarily political violence. | ||
It's horrible and it's a tragedy, but do we know if it was political violence? | ||
Seems like a bit of a leap, particularly for when Alex was on air talking about this. | ||
All they were doing was trying to... | ||
Disenfranchised trans people of having their Second Amendment rights. | ||
Yeah. | ||
That's what that was about. | ||
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Yeah. | |
And that's something that Alec probably shouldn't be in favor of. | ||
Well, you'd think. | ||
Yeah. | ||
You would think, wouldn't you? | ||
It is so stupid what things Tucker says. | ||
Yep. | ||
That is true. | ||
Man, he's not going to have a good time with his indictment. | ||
No, no, I doubt it. | ||
So anyway, Alex tries to pretend that this shooting was... | ||
He has a little storyline about it. | ||
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So Audrey Hale thought that she, who thought she was a man, was being targeted, and there's a manifesto they're trying to keep from us, but we're told, and we can see on posts she made, that she was mad at transphobics, the way you... | ||
Get back at those as you shoot some eight, nine-year-old children to death with a rifle. | ||
So this is definitely a new thing. | ||
They have women who think they're men out doing what the media advertises, mass shootings. | ||
And we know the copycat effect, that when somebody jumps off the Brooklyn Bridge, they go to post cops there for about a week, because a bunch of others will start doing it. | ||
And it causes like a stampede of lemmings. | ||
So now it's kind of out there in the mind of these jokes on all these psychotropic drugs and hormones that... | ||
Well, the way you protest is you just go to a Christian school, you know, in a state that's passing a law that you can't mutilate children surgically, and you mutilate kids with high-powered rifle rounds. | ||
That's sick. | ||
That's just sick shit that Alex is engaging in. | ||
I don't even know. | ||
Probably doesn't deserve any kind of, you know... | ||
I mean, I suppose the only thing to say is you're telling on yourself, buddy. | ||
You're not telling on anybody else. | ||
That's you. | ||
That's your mind. | ||
Yep. | ||
So, we heard earlier in this episode an instance of Alex really being concerned about an article about himself that Dan Friesen, the Alex Jones watcher, had no idea about. | ||
Didn't know about, yeah. | ||
Turns out we get a second instance of that. | ||
Okay. | ||
Did you find it this time? | ||
I don't bring up this article because it's about me, but it's illustrative. | ||
Of what's going on. | ||
This is all over Twitter, all over Facebook, without me even looking. | ||
It's been said to me like a hundred times. | ||
Not just this article. | ||
This article is about the trend. | ||
And you read the article, and it says why Jane Fonda is being compared to Alex Jones after a Nashville shooting. | ||
And it says Jane Fonda said it's time to start killing Christians because they're trying to restrict abortion. | ||
And that's just like Alex Jones saying attack schools. | ||
Well, when did I ever... | ||
See, they know the general public doesn't know about Adam Lanza that did the shooting at Sandy Hook. | ||
You hear the word Sandy Hook, you think Alex Jones. | ||
So now it's a whole article about just like Alex Jones wants violence, Jane Fonda wants violence. | ||
What? | ||
What? | ||
Jane Fonda was on The View a little bit back, and she was asked what alternatives there are to protesting after the repeal of Roe v. | ||
Wade, and she joked, Well, I've thought of murder. | ||
For some reason, Newsweek ran an article about how idiots on Twitter were saying that if Alex had to pay a billion dollars for his Sandy Hook coverage, then Fonda should have to pay five billion for making that joke. | ||
It's really strange that this passed an editor's desk because it's honestly incoherent. | ||
Some people on Twitter were saying that Fonda's comments were, quote, which I'm not sure makes sense, nor does it justify an article. | ||
Is the argument now that the shooter in Nashville was motivated by the restriction of access to reproductive care? | ||
I'm confused about how this shooting seems to be about a million different things, depending on which culture war a particular Twitter user is concerned about. | ||
Like, it's very weird. | ||
I can't keep track of all this. | ||
Fonda never said anything about Christians. | ||
Alex is making that up. | ||
And the article even says, quote, Jones did not incite violence with his comments. | ||
The point is that Alex is absolutely covering this just because it's about him. | ||
He should grow up. | ||
You would think. | ||
Yeah. | ||
You would think. | ||
This is so stupid. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Well, I mean, obviously, again, he's telling on himself by saying she said murder Christians, because what he's saying is the people who are against abortion are Christians, and if you are not against abortion, you are not a Christian. | ||
It's very simple. | ||
Interestingly, dovetails quite a bit into some more of that Reveal-O.P. | ||
Oliver stuff I've been reading, which is unsettling. | ||
That sounds right. | ||
We'll get to that at another time. | ||
Alex talks to Alex Stein. | ||
He has him as a guest. | ||
And then the third hour starts, and Alex says this, and I said, goodnight. | ||
Well, that was an amazing interview with Alex Stein last hour. | ||
I think we may top it with Dr. Stella Emanuel, drstellamd.com. | ||
What an amazing lady, a fellow Texan. | ||
She was one of the first and most outspoken doctors with the different alternative treatments that have saved millions of people. | ||
She helped educate President Trump and so many others. | ||
Stella Emanuel, MD's successful physician with an active practice in Houston as well as the founder of Firepower Ministries. | ||
Yep. | ||
Stella Emanuel, hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin doctor who thinks that people are fucking demons in their sleep and what have you. | ||
Yep, yep, yep. | ||
Let's get her out there. | ||
Gotta go. | ||
Gotta get... | ||
No, no, no, no. | ||
If we're deplatforming Stein, this is what we gotta put on our show right here. | ||
This is the stuff that's still coming. | ||
I listened to about a half hour of it and I was just... | ||
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Brutal. | |
Not good. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Honestly, I mean, look, as we're recording this, this is something I think is important. | ||
You know, this is an event and the response to it I think is important and I think it matters. | ||
Yeah. | ||
But as we're recording this, it feels like the fact that Trump got indicted is hanging over me. | ||
The fact that that is in the news makes almost everything feel like, like, eh. | ||
We'll have time. | ||
There's going to be several years before this indictment becomes even a trial. | ||
Then we'll have sentencing. | ||
Then we'll have blah, blah, blah. | ||
Then we'll have blah, blah, blah. | ||
Then we'll have appeals. | ||
Then we'll have appeals on appeals. | ||
But those things aren't going to cause a potential drunk freakout from Alex. | ||
That's a good point. | ||
That is a good point. | ||
The drumbeat of a drawn-out... | ||
Court case isn't necessarily going to elicit response, whereas the news of it will. | ||
That's fair. | ||
Anyway, I think this sucks, obviously. | ||
I think Alex is terrible, and I think he doesn't really know anything and is operating entirely off... | ||
In terms of primary sources, it's like weird memories that he has and memes. | ||
And it's irresponsible because there is a direct effect that it has on people. | ||
Do you know? | ||
I just don't know how long we can keep doing the same shit. | ||
I mean, actually, I would say this. | ||
We're trying to find out, I guess. | ||
We can't do the same shit forever. | ||
So the question then becomes, when does it stop? | ||
When does the carousel stop and why? | ||
And I'm worried about why. | ||
That's the worry I have. | ||
I don't want to overblow some kind of compliment towards you or anything, but that is an idea that you have about the hotline thing. | ||
It gets around the right-wingers' reluctance to do literally anything about guns. | ||
I'm not saying that your idea would be, like, to end up. | ||
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course not. | ||
But there may be other things like it that, like, obviously gun control is this dead end where you're never going to make progress on it, though maybe don't stop trying. | ||
Sure, sure. | ||
Stop trying in a political sense or in an argumentative sense or in a, like, if we can reach across the aisle sense or any of that bullshit. | ||
Get rid of that shit. | ||
Done. | ||
Or maybe keep some of that up where it's appropriate, but also maybe there are other things that can be implemented in places. | ||
That are creative, outside-of-the-box solutions. | ||
And maybe there's an impact that can be made from that. | ||
And so maybe trying the same thing isn't always trying the same thing. | ||
Maybe there are other things that can be tried in concert with other things. | ||
I think I'm more thinking this, alright? | ||
The solutions to these problems are going to be bottom-up. | ||
We're not going to get top-down solutions from this. | ||
Yeah, and even the ones that are top-down are probably going to be caused by the bottom, either demanding or some sort of pressure coming from the bottom-up. | ||
I think I would agree with that. | ||
So, I think that's where we're at, where it's like, if you want to do something, now's the time. | ||
You should do something positive. | ||
You should start the hotline. | ||
I mean, honestly, I think the problem is I'm not the person to talk to. | ||
That's true. | ||
I am very much not the person to talk to. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Because my first thought is like, well, your anger's going to the wrong place, and then we're in a different conversation. | ||
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Yeah. | |
I don't want that one. | ||
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No. | |
So if somebody else would like to start the hotline, I will make a donation to get it off the ground. | ||
I think we should all make a donation to get it off. | ||
I don't know if it is possible, but, you know. | ||
I'll do more buttons. | ||
I mean, you know what I'm saying? | ||
Like, it is a situation where we gotta stop arguing or doing anything like that and start thinking of new ways to tackle this. | ||
I don't think that's negative at all. | ||
I don't think that's... | ||
I think that it has maybe a slight appearance of defeatism, but it also has a hopefulness. | ||
And a productive place that energies can be channeled. | ||
Yeah, I mean, it's not... | ||
Doom to be like, well, this shit doesn't work. | ||
Let's try something different. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Yep. | ||
Yep. | ||
So, fuck Alex. | ||
He's a real big piece of shit. | ||
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Yep. | |
Sucks. | ||
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Yep. | |
A real big piece of shit. | ||
And we'll be back on Monday to see how he responds to Trump being indicted. | ||
Indeed we will. | ||
But until then, we have a website. | ||
Indeed we do. | ||
It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
Yep. | ||
We're also on Twitter. | ||
We are on Twitter. | ||
It's at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
Yep. | ||
We'll be back. | ||
But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
I'm Leo. | ||
I'm DCX. | ||
Clark. | ||
Oh, you know what? | ||
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Eh. | |
And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
I love your work. |