Today, Dan and Jordan check in on Alex's response to the news of God-King Donald Trump being indicted. You may be able to tell from the episode's runtime that it was slightly underwhelming. but does give him the chance to interview a guest it seems like he shouldn't.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan, knowledge fight. | |
| I need, I need money. | ||
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Andy and Kansas. | |
| Andy and, Andy and... | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding us. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your room. | ||
| Knowledge Fight. | ||
| Knowledge Fight. | ||
| Knowledge Fight.com. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| I have a quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today, buddy? | ||
| My bright spot today, it's hard for me to think because it's hot. | ||
| It is hot in here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like the heaters, the radiators are out of control and I cannot adjust them. | ||
| And it is brutal. | ||
| I can't crack a window in the studio either while we're recording because you scream and even my voice carries. | ||
| So I don't want everyone on the street. | ||
| Here in our shit. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You gotta pay for that. | ||
| It's hot. | ||
| You gotta pay for this free show. | ||
| We're recording this in advance a little bit, recording a little bit earlier than usual because you're going on a little trip, which might be your bright spot. | ||
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It was. | |
| I won't spoil it. | ||
| Don't you worry. | ||
| But tonight, as we're recording this, is the first night of WrestleMania. | ||
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Indeed. | |
| So I'm excited about that. | ||
| I'm hoping for... | ||
| Look, I'm hoping for a good time. | ||
| I hope everyone has a blast. | ||
| I hope they have a lot of fun out there. | ||
| That's what I'm looking for. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Also, I just am excited for Sami Zayn and Kevin Owens to probably become tag champs. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That'll be fun. | ||
| All right, all right. | ||
| I think that's going to happen. | ||
| What are the top bills? | ||
| Probably that. | ||
| That's up there. | ||
| Well, I mean, there's two nights of WrestleMania, so tonight's night one and then night two. | ||
| Probably the headlining match will be that, the tag team championship. | ||
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Gotcha. | |
| For tonight. | ||
| The Usos, the longest reigning tag team champions in the history, against... | ||
| Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn, Canadian guys who hate each other but also love each other like brothers. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| The Canadian way. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I think that'll probably headline, although there are other options, like the women's championship match might. | ||
| But the other night, night two, we have Cody Rhodes, son of Dusty Rhodes, who's the son of a plumber. | ||
| He should have to say that. | ||
| My dad was the son of a plumber. | ||
| He's the son of a plumber. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And Cody Rhodes is fighting Roman Reigns for the championship. | ||
| And he's probably going to win. | ||
| All the Roman Reigns adjacent family members, the bloodline, they're probably all going to lose. | ||
| Because they've all been champs for a very long time. | ||
| Too long. | ||
| And it feels like a culmination. | ||
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Right. | |
| Of all this has come into place. | ||
| Yeah, it'll be fun. | ||
| I'm not worried about Uncle Howdy. | ||
| He can't hurt me anymore. | ||
| He can't hurt you anymore. | ||
| I'm free! | ||
| I'm free of Uncle Howdy! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Although, there's a small part of me that's a little bit suspicious he'll pop up somewhere. | ||
| I don't know, but... | ||
| If I were a betting man, I would be a little worried about Uncle Howdy. | ||
| We'll see! | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| So yeah, what's your bright spot? | ||
| My bright spot is spring break. | ||
| Yes, my wife is off of school for the next week, so we're going to spend a few days out in the frozen north. | ||
| Hey, all right. | ||
| Walking around. | ||
| Canada. | ||
| Seeing the city of Toronto. | ||
| You know, just the two of us. | ||
| We haven't been just the two of us for a while, so it'll be nice. | ||
| I don't know if that's true. | ||
| The last time we went someplace was with her. | ||
| Her parents. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| That'll be nice. | ||
| And coming right off the heels of the anniversary, it's kind of like a nice little anniversary trip. | ||
| I hope you have a blast. | ||
| I've never been to Toronto. | ||
| I was thinking about this. | ||
| I don't think I've ever even been to Canada. | ||
| But I hear wonderful things. | ||
| I think it'll be great. | ||
| Although, one of the things that I remember always hearing was that you get weed there. | ||
| And that's no longer really all that special. | ||
| Not really that special. | ||
| I will say this. | ||
| It's fucking cheaper there than it is here, by a wide margin. | ||
| You say that very emphatically, and I'll believe you, because I don't know this to be true. | ||
| I don't partake. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, no, the last time I was in Toronto was almost 20 full years ago. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| To see Modest Mouse and Broken Social Scene and Godspeed You Black Emperor on Toronto Island. | ||
| Which to this day is still maybe the best day I've ever had. | ||
| It started at noon. | ||
| Metric was playing. | ||
| It was all of Canada's bands. | ||
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This is maybe not going to live up to that. | |
| But while you travel to Canada, I will be celebrating Canada's sons. | ||
| Hopefully becoming tag team champions. | ||
| That's a very Canadian heavy episode today. | ||
| And I have a chocolate. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| We're going to be talking about some present day... | ||
| Sure, that sounds about right. | ||
| So Trump got indicted. | ||
| Yep, we heard. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And so this happened after Alex was off air on Thursday, on the 30th. | ||
| And so he didn't have a chance to respond to it on air. | ||
| It actually happened while Owen was on air during the war room. | ||
| And so we get a little taste of his response to it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But Alex put out a video that evening. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| That I... | ||
| Can only describe as the definition of phoning it in. | ||
| Yeah, it's him standing in front of a camera as opposed to being at his desk screaming, we gotta go live! | ||
| There used to be a time when he would be like, fuck it, I'm drunk, we are doing a two hour show right now! | ||
| This is too big to miss! | ||
| Now we'll just sit in front of a fucking map trying to rip off Paul Joseph Watson and just do a one shot where he's like... | ||
| This is very serious. | ||
| That's garbage. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| He should have to come out at this point. | ||
| He should have to escalate to the point where he comes out in like a black hood. | ||
| He should be making Al-Qaeda videos immediately after this because that's what he said you're supposed to do if Trump is indicted. | ||
| That's the line in the sand where we start. | ||
| I think we all know what we start doing then, you know? | ||
| I think he should just like do the same thing that he's doing now but never not have a gas mask on. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Just be like, gotta take chances. | ||
| Balaclava. | ||
| Gas mask. | ||
| I'm gonna go with Plague Doctor Hat. | ||
| I'll go with Plague Doctor Hat. | ||
| I don't hate it. | ||
| Bringing it back. | ||
| I think now is the time. | ||
| So yeah, this episode has to do with his response from that evening and then Friday, the 31st, that show. | ||
| And... | ||
| Tepid. | ||
| Yeah, that's a good word. | ||
| I think that we find so often that whenever there's the expectation that Alex is going to do something, it's kind of a disappointment. | ||
| Like when he's going to respond to something big, it's kind of like, it fizzles, and then often he disappears. | ||
| Yes, yes, he does immediately go far away. | ||
| And that happens here too. | ||
| Of course! | ||
| So it's a mess. | ||
| It's a mess. | ||
| But we will cover all angles on it. | ||
| Top. | ||
| Bottom, side, other side. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So it's a square. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| No. | ||
| Rectangle. | ||
| I was going to say rhombus, but then I've now forgotten what a rhombus is. | ||
| Geometry. | ||
| Geography. | ||
| So let's say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| Oh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, Michelle and Daniel are having a baby in April. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much and congratulations! | ||
| Hey, we're not late on that. | ||
| Yeah, I finally got it. | ||
| She was... | ||
| Wait, that's not insulting. | ||
| No, it's just a regular old, yeah. | ||
| It came off like a burn. | ||
| It sounded like a roast. | ||
| It did have that tone. | ||
| Next, the Casey Anthony Alex Jones Academy of Inept on the Ball Liars. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, Alex Joker and the Phantom Squatches. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| That is a Persona 5 reference, as Joker is the main character in it, and he has the Phantom Thieves. | ||
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Gotcha. | |
| But they're the Phantom Thieves of heart, so it should be the Phantom Squatches of lies or something, of deceit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta add the honorific. | ||
| Yeah, and then in that version of it where Alex is Joker, he puts together... | ||
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Ooh. | |
| Okay. | ||
| Okay, here we go. | ||
| So, Ryu would be... | ||
| Rob Do. | ||
| Ryu's Rob Do. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Ryu Do. | ||
| I don't remember some of the other characters' names. | ||
| Shit. | ||
| That'll be fine. | ||
| Millie Weaver is Panther. | ||
| I don't remember what her actual... | ||
| Anne? | ||
| On? | ||
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Sure. | |
| I think is her name. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| It's been a while since I've played that. | ||
| But anyway, they infiltrate people's subconsciouses to make them believe false things. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's the version of Alex Jones doing Persona 5. That makes sense. | ||
| Anyway, next, Fergie's live band karaoke. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Next, Bear Jews of Tomorrow. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| And the Red Devil of Montgomery. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you! | ||
| So, we start, Jordan, on the evening, where Alex is doing his very lackluster response video. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And he starts a little soft. | ||
| We're here on the evening of Thursday, March 30th, 2023, and this is a historic milestone for the American Republic, just a little over 240 years old. | ||
| Whether it's a liberal analyst or a Republican analyst, every historian agrees. | ||
| No U.S. president, former or current, has ever been indicted by a state grand jury. | ||
| Not even by the feds, because you become a banana republic right away. | ||
| Not necessarily, but also a saying that people agree on all sides about a factual statement. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I'm proud of us. | ||
| It's an interpretive statement. | ||
| No, I'm proud of us for agreeing on a factual statement. | ||
| That's a new thing! | ||
| It's a small win. | ||
| It is! | ||
| It is a win! | ||
| I appreciate the sheer stupidity of that, though, being anything meaningful whatsoever. | ||
| True. | ||
| Just because I can't think of a president in my lifetime that hasn't committed a crime worthy of being arrested for. | ||
| I can't think of a historical president who hasn't... | ||
| Maybe... | ||
| I don't know! | ||
| Carter's even committed a crime in office that he should have been arrested for. | ||
| I think, if anything, it kind of... | ||
| It says we were a banana republic until we... | ||
| But even that, I think, is a little bit wrong. | ||
| Because here's the issue. | ||
| It's like, this is about something that Trump did in order to get into office. | ||
| You know, this is part of campaign shenanigans or whatever. | ||
| It's not holding him accountable for any of the awful things that were done while in office. | ||
| Whereas that would be what you would like to see a precedent being set for like, oh, you killed all these people with bombs and drones and shit. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| You now must answer for this. | ||
| It would be nice. | ||
| As opposed to you paid some hush money. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I don't know if it sets a good precedent. | ||
| Well, I mean, the precedent before that was just if you go away, everybody will move on. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If Nixon was just like, you know what? | ||
| I'm out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, and then everybody was like, well, we could cause problems, but he's gone, so let's just all be happy for a little bit. | ||
| It might be fun, but also it's going to be a mess. | ||
| It's going to be a mess! | ||
| Let's just fucking go forward. | ||
| You're fine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, yeah, Alex believes, other than us, he believes this is a harbinger of collapse. | ||
| And then he calls on a familiar friend. | ||
| This is the recklessness that always is a hallmark, a harbinger of real collapse and destruction. | ||
| The banks are falling apart, the borders are gone, human smuggling is going on everywhere. | ||
| Everywhere. | ||
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Just absolute evil is unfolding around us. | |
| Evil. | ||
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We've forgotten God and we really are a cursed nation. | |
| It's now time to pray, to call for peace. | ||
| Nobody should be violent over this. | ||
| I'm really concerned they could stage a false flag or provocateur something. | ||
| They've really primed the media that Republicans We're not the left. | ||
| Now... | ||
| I want to play an exclusive statement we just got minutes ago from Roger Stone. | ||
| He's been through what Trump's been through. | ||
| It's time to pray again. | ||
| It is. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, if you're someone like Alex, it's time to be in a constant state of prayer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Read your Thessalonians, buddy. | ||
| Pray without ceasing. | ||
| Roger's statement, not worth listening to, pretty boring. | ||
| Nothing in there. | ||
| It's pre-recorded, so it's not even him and Alex going back and forth. | ||
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Oh, that's stupid. | |
| It's just something you put on his phone, probably, and then it was like, hey, Alex, here you go. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Go ahead and play this. | ||
| Alex bought a cameo. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean, he did better than we could, because Roger turned me down. | ||
| I tried to get a cameo. | ||
| Rat fucked again. | ||
| Him and CT. | ||
| Both don't like me. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, yeah, Alex, we know this from listening to a recent episode. | ||
| He decided he was going to support Trump. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And Alex kind of misrepresents that. | ||
| So this is the season of them staging terror attacks and blaming it on Trump supporters. | ||
| So let's get out ahead of this and say we're not for violence and they have the motive to do it. | ||
| So here's Roger Stone's exclusive statement. | ||
| Then Owen Schroer reading a statement from President Trump. | ||
| But regardless, I was on the fence about supporting Trump. | ||
| The last few weeks, I said, "Okay, I'm for Trump over to Santa's because Trump's been anti-World War III." But now... | ||
| We've got to get behind Trump because they're coming after all of our rights to pick a president or pick other leaders. | ||
| And if this beta test by the Soros DA, he controls most DAs in the country, works? | ||
| They're going to do this to everybody. | ||
| Yeah, he controls all the DAs. | ||
| So that's just bullshit. | ||
| I guess he got tired of, like, Klaus Schwab being the big bad guy, so now we're moving it back to Soros for a little bit. | ||
| Well, Schwab can't influence DAs, though. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Well, he could. | ||
| He could say, go along with this or I'll make you eat bugs. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| That is fair. | ||
| DAs hate eating bugs. | ||
| It's what we know about that. | ||
| Notorious stereotype. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex was not on the fence about Trump. | ||
| That's cute. | ||
| Trying to pretend that they've decided to be on his side now. | ||
| Ah, you fuck off. | ||
| But the other thing, you can notice in these clips that we've listened to already, there is a real insistence of there's going to be false flags to blame Trump supporters. | ||
| Again, this is just Alex doing preemptive damage control about the high possibility of some right-wing folks committing violence in response to Trump being indicted. | ||
| He has to get out ahead of that because he knows his community well enough to know that Someone's gonna shoot something. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, I suppose Season of Terrorists is better than Summer of Rage. | ||
| At least we've upped our game there, you know? | ||
| He does say Summer of Rage at some point. | ||
| Damn it! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I don't know if we're really out of the woods on that. | ||
| It is both time to pray and we're coming to a Summer of Rage. | ||
| I am tired of reruns. | ||
| We had the constitutional sheriffs on the last time. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I'm so tired of reruns. | ||
| So Alex discusses the indictment, but also lies a bit about what it's about. | ||
| They're trying to indict me. | ||
| They're trying to indict Rand Paul. | ||
| They're trying to indict everybody. | ||
| And if they can't get the feds to do it, Soros controls over 2,000 DAs and district attorneys. | ||
| Are there 2,000 DAs? | ||
| 22 attorney generals of the state. | ||
| This is total weaponized law enforcement against the people where they let mass shooters out a couple days after they kill people, where they let pedophiles out, but say that somebody who might have given money to a... | ||
| High-end prostitute, that that person needs to go to prison, even if it's true, and there's no evidence it is. | ||
| This is so dangerous. | ||
| Here's Roger Stone's statement, then President Trump's statement, and I'll see you tomorrow. | ||
| 11 a.m. Central, Infowars.com, and Bandot video. | ||
| They're doing this not out of strength, but out of deep state desperation, because we're winning culturally, we're winning politically, so now they're hoping to turn the heat up. | ||
| Going to the summer for a summer of rage and try to provoke a civil war. | ||
| Aha, gotcha. | ||
| Damn it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's almost impressive how many misrepresentations about the indictment Alex packed into that tiny clip. | ||
| He claims that there's no evidence of Trump making this hush money payment, but that's definitely a lie. | ||
| Part of the charges that sent Michael Cohen to jail were the fact that he made this payment, as well as other hush money payments, at Trump's behest. | ||
| He pled guilty. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it is very funny that they're like, ah, well, Cohen might not be a reliable witness, and it's like, well, obviously he's not a reliable witness. | ||
| He worked for Trump for years, of course. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| But guess what he is? | ||
| Evidence that this happened. | ||
| He's a quite unreliable witness, but also he had every reason to not plead guilty and went to jail because he pled guilty, which is a strong disincentive to plead guilty in that case. | ||
| So I take that. | ||
| As a little bit of a, you know, walking the walk, as it were. | ||
| I mean, it's hard not to think if the guy who handed the check hush money to a person went to jail, then the person who signed that check should also go to jail. | ||
| I feel like that's not complicated. | ||
| Well, I think it's a little bit more complicated because Michael Cohen paid her and then Trump repaid him. | ||
| So there is, like, the thinnest veil of plausible deniability. | ||
| Okay, so it's like the wire. | ||
| It's like Cohen is the kid who goes and takes the order. | ||
| He's the corner boy. | ||
| Yeah, I got you now. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So if the matter were just that Trump had made a payment to a sex worker, I would agree that it doesn't really merit discussion. | ||
| Totally fine. | ||
| It's for him and his wife to deal with, I guess, if they want. | ||
| Have at it. | ||
| The problem here is not that he had those affairs, as that would really not be a criminal matter for the state. | ||
| It's that Trump directed a subordinate to make hush money payments to the people he had affairs with while he was campaigning for president with the explicit purpose of influencing the election. | ||
| Having an affair or even having an NDA for the sake of protecting people's privacy isn't an issue. | ||
| But what Trump did has far wider implications leaning towards election fraud. | ||
| I can understand why Alex would make up a fake version of this indictment to respond to, but the idea that his audience would accept that framing is a little sad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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It's a little bit you. | |
| I mean, you know, you figure that for all, you know, the thing that Trump should be probably bumped for is the number of capture and kill stories that have been handled by so many different outlets where it's like... | ||
| Well, I'm not hush money payments. | ||
| I'm just so fucking rich this person will protect me. | ||
| You know, that's an issue. | ||
| And the whole arrangement with the National Enquirer and stuff. | ||
| So, one last clip here, and we don't need to hear Roger's statement because it's boring as hell and doesn't really tell us anything. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But Owen's commentary right after learning is a little bit interesting. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Alright, let me just pause right there because I can't help myself before I go on. | ||
| You know, I just have a hard time sympathizing with Donald Trump on this because you were the president. | ||
| You said you were going to drain the swamp. | ||
| You didn't do it. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's the first logical thing I've ever heard him say. | ||
| I don't have to defend Donald Trump. | ||
| I'm going to defend the truth. | ||
| And I've suffered for supporting Donald Trump as much as almost anybody except maybe a Roger Stone. | ||
| There's very few others who have suffered as much as I have for the support of Donald Trump. | ||
| But that does not change the fact that I'm going to be honest about Donald Trump and you, Donald Trump, said you would drain the swamp and now you didn't and so the swamp is coming after you and you want sympathy from us who are getting crushed by the swamp too? | ||
| We elected you to get these blood-sucking vampires off of our freaking neck! | ||
| And you want sympathy because they're on yours? | ||
| They're on ours! | ||
| We made you president to get them out of here! | ||
| This is sad. | ||
| This is a little bit sad. | ||
| That is, I mean, the number of things that he actually said in there, he has no concept of. | ||
| Like, first of all, you noticed. | ||
| He said, essentially, that the reason Alex is in trouble is because he harassed the Sandy Hook families, not because he supported Trump. | ||
| Well, actually, I think that's one reading of that, but I also think that Alex always says that he is the person other than Trump and Roger who have been persecuted the most. | ||
| So I think that maybe Owen is just ripping that off, or just repeating what Alex says. | ||
| Sure, that could be. | ||
| But then forgetting that he's supposed to put Alex ahead of him. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And I think the reason is because he doesn't. | ||
| Actually think it. | ||
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Maybe a little bit. | |
| Then following along with that, he's also made the so completely obvious point that is, I mean, essentially all of their points bound up in one, which is, we elected you to do the thing. | ||
| That you didn't do, and there are consequences for that. | ||
| That's a jump that I have not seen anybody on the right take. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you had become a dictator, this wouldn't be happening. | ||
| And that's the third thing, which is that we wanted you to become a dictator immune from all law. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And because you didn't, I have no sympathy for you. | ||
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I have no sympathy. | |
| And that is, I mean, yeah. | ||
| It's hard to argue with that. | ||
| Well, I think all that's great. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And then the side thing that I think also, too, is, like, there is an aspect of this that is kind of fun to hear. | ||
| It's like, fuck you, Trump. | ||
| You didn't take care of this problem for us, and now it's hurting you. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But also that is being deployed in service of making the same argument that someone who was like, they did Trump dirty. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| You know, like, all of this. | ||
| Like, we gotta support. | ||
| It's making the same functional argument. | ||
| So I don't really know how great... | ||
| It's more interesting to see, maybe, but it's just the same shit, really. | ||
| Well, yes, yes, but it does change the value marker to competence. | ||
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| What do you mean? | ||
| I mean, if he were competent, then this wouldn't be happening. | ||
| So... | ||
| The idea that is accidentally being expressed here is that in order to be our leader, you have to accomplish the things. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. | ||
| I misunderstood you because I thought you meant the value marker in terms of like... | ||
| Owen's performance. | ||
| Oh, no, no. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, no, no, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| Which is like, when was the last time that you've felt anybody in this sphere actually want to hold their own people accountable? | ||
| Alex, when he's making ultimatums about vaccines. | ||
| Shoving ice up your dirty asshole. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| You know, fake holding the feet to the fire. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| And so is this, really. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| But we jump to the morning. | ||
| Alex is... | ||
| I don't know what he's done. | ||
| Why am I pretending I know? | ||
| I have no idea what he did. | ||
| He showed up at work, and now he goes on air. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But he's in a mood. | ||
| He's in a mood. | ||
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| Okay, so he's in a mood. | ||
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| Oh no, we got Sinatra. | ||
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Losing my timing this late in my career. | |
| Where are the clowns? | ||
| It's Friday. | ||
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There ought to be clouds March 31st, 2023 Well, maybe next year We are in a major crisis. | |
| Our republic is collapsing the dollar. | ||
| Is losing its world reserve currency. | ||
| Our borders have been purposely lowered. | ||
| Lowered? | ||
| We are occupied by a corporate global force that seeks to destroy all nation states and the family. | ||
| So, like, we heard him say it's the summer of rage in his... | ||
| That night clip, but this just feels, like you're saying, reruns. | ||
| 20 years ago, Alex was announcing that the dollar was being destroyed and taken out as the world currency. | ||
| 20 years ago, he was saying that the border was gone and the attack of the family is underway. | ||
| He wasn't saying that in 20 years those things would happen. | ||
| He was reporting them as happening currently back then. | ||
| It's pretty remarkable how he can really just hold the audience in the grip of fear about the same things for so long, despite them not having... | ||
| Yeah, I mean, the irony of that is that, what was it, China, and they did take the dollar off as their reserve currency, or whatever it is, right? | ||
| And so, you would think that this thing that actually happened, that he got so worked up about 20 years ago, finally happening, would make him get... | ||
| Equally worked up, if not more so. | ||
| And it seems very muted and kind of, he doesn't give a shit. | ||
| Well, I mean, you heard the Sinatra. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| He's in a mood. | ||
| He's in a mood. | ||
| So we're in a crisis. | ||
| A crisis of law. | ||
| No matter what you think of President Trump, this is the greatest legal crisis in U.S. history. | ||
| Every major analyst agrees that this is beyond unprecedented and is truly a bellwether. | ||
| We're a harbinger of the end of the republic. | ||
| Now you know why Soros has put in over 2,000 district attorneys and county attorneys and controls 22 attorney generals. | ||
| He's overthrown countless countries. | ||
| And he will overthrow America if we let him. | ||
| When I say Soros, I mean the people he represents. | ||
| I failed to care about Alex's opinion about this being a legal crisis. | ||
| He made millions selling shirts and bumper stickers that said Hillary for prison. | ||
| He and his ilk gleefully chanted, lock her up, throughout the 2016 election and far beyond. | ||
| He can straight up just calm down. | ||
| Trump is a former elected official who committed crimes, and now he's being indicted for those crimes. | ||
| It is true that this hasn't happened before with a former president, but, you know, so what? | ||
| I mean, Andrew Jackson, while in office, Killed a bunch of people in duels, which I'm fairly certain were illegal at the time. | ||
| So the sitting United States president murdered people in an illegal duel. | ||
| It feels like everyone was just kind of cool with that, though. | ||
| They were pretty cool with it. | ||
| Yeah, so legal or not. | ||
| It was technically illegal. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's house rules. | ||
| It did seem that way at the time. | ||
| Everyone would agree with this statement. | ||
| I think we can agree on that. | ||
| That's how it should be. | ||
| That kind of thinking is at odds with our general vibe in the United States, where we're supposed to be all equal under the law. | ||
| This idea that someone can, you know, just because you held an office, you're all of a sudden for life, can't get in trouble. | ||
| There's not supposed to be an aristocracy. | ||
| That was kind of the thing we wanted to get rid of. | ||
| However, no one wants politically motivated persecutions and prosecutions to become the norm, which is why you see people like Alex framing things this way. | ||
| He knows that no one wants political persecution and that he would look like a complete idiot if he were to argue that Trump, as a former president, should be immune from prosecution for the rest of his life or whatever he does. | ||
| In order to solve that optics problem, Alex just rewrites what's going on, throws in some shout-outs to his boogeyman Soros, and can be pretty confident that his audience will just nod along with it and be like, hooray, give me more fake pills. | ||
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| Also, it's not super cool for Alex to say that when he says Soros, he means, quote, the people Soros represent. | ||
| I think his audience can pretty clearly translate that kind of code. | ||
| It's a little blunt. | ||
| Yeah, that one was pretty on the nose. | ||
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| Not good. | ||
| No. | ||
| Not good, Alex. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| So speaking of not good, today's guests aren't good. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Roger Stone predicted it yesterday. | ||
| He'll be joining us in 15 minutes. | ||
| Robert Barnes is going to be riding shotgun. | ||
| Owen's going to be coming in as well with his excellent analysis. | ||
| And somebody wanted to get on for a long time. | ||
| Alan Dershowitz is going to be on with us in the second hour of his historical legal views on this as well. | ||
| So a big broadcast lined up for you. | ||
| Man, I don't know if Alex should be excited to have Alan Dershowitz on his show. | ||
| Isn't Alex supposed to be the guy who broke the whole Epstein thing long before everyone else? | ||
| If so, does he not realize that Dershowitz was one of Epstein's lawyers back in 2006 where he helped secure a slap on the wrist deal so Epstein could go on with his sex trafficking of minors? | ||
| For another 20 years, yeah. | ||
| Dershowitz was on The View where he said, quote, I saw real victims out there. | ||
| I think of myself like a doctor or priest. | ||
| If they wheel Jeffrey Epstein into the emergency ward, the doctor is going to take care of him. | ||
| Put slightly more honestly, Epstein was super rich, and there was a lot of money in it for Dershowitz to ignore that there were real victims in the case, so he could get Epstein off on a light sentence, so he could go on to victimize more people. | ||
| Oh, and he was a consultant for Harvey Weinstein's legal defense. | ||
| And he was part of the O.J. Simpson Dream Team. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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This isn't a great booking for Alex if he wants to pretend that he's serious about the issues he covers. | |
| But I don't think that that's a major concern. | ||
| There's a chance this kind of interview will get mainstream attention. | ||
| And that's really all that matters here. | ||
| And his audience can be, you know, kept from realizing certain things if need be. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I don't know what we're going to do if Dershowitz never dies. | ||
| He seems like he's never going to die. | ||
| He's going to be immortal, and he's just going to keep representing pieces of shit for longer than you and I will be here. | ||
| We'll just be watching Dershowitz gracelessly turn into a puddle. | ||
| I wouldn't be surprised if Alex tried to get him. | ||
| I agree! | ||
| So Roger's on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And here, Alex tries to convince Roger to get in with him on the false flags are coming game. | ||
| And Roger's a little bit resistant. | ||
| I think he has a decent reason. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Now, Roger, I want to raise this point to you and then get your breakdown of it and then how you see this unfolding. | ||
| They're losing so bad with this in the polls, it's blown up completely in their face. | ||
| It's causing the entire Republican structure to line up behind Trump. | ||
| As you said, he's up 25, 30 points now and he was dead heat. | ||
| A month ago with DeSantis, and new polls are coming up showing him shooting up even higher. | ||
| Everybody knows he's a martyr. | ||
| Everybody knows Biden's a pedophile, and his son's a pedophile, and Chinese agents, and Hunter Laptop, and all of it. | ||
| I can sit back. | ||
| I know the enemy's playbook. | ||
| There is no way without them setting off truck bombs and blaming it on us. | ||
| Or a mass shootings or a race attack or something, that this is going to work for them. | ||
| So I see the next card, being staged violence, to be blamed on us. | ||
| A, you agree with that? | ||
| And B, how do we get out ahead of that and stop that? | ||
| Because we're winning. | ||
| We force them to engage in this open banana republic behavior, which is blowing up further. | ||
| Or am I missing something here? | ||
| Because I think the only thing they can do now is launch World War III, maybe? | ||
| A total collapse? | ||
| I mean, we're already there. | ||
| Roger Stone, what do you think? | ||
| Alex, I think it all entirely depends on timing, timing of which we're not sure. | ||
| Let's be very clear. | ||
| Even now, we're reacting to a leaked story in the New York Times, then picked up by CNN. | ||
| We haven't even seen the actual criminal indictment. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| See, these are two people having two different conversations. | ||
| Roger's response is fairly tactical and reasonable. | ||
| And as much as it's like, we don't even know what's in here exactly yet. | ||
| Let's wait till we know some more details. | ||
| Also, Roger's a bit closer to Trump, so he probably is like... | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Hey, we don't know the facts. | ||
| So let's not get worked up about false flags and all this stuff. | ||
| Alex is having a separate conversation, which surrounds the idea of creating preemptive justification for right-wing acts of domestic terrorism. | ||
| And so they're kind of at odds in that sense. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, okay. | ||
| Maybe if somebody wants to have the how do we get out in front of domestic terrorism conversation, you are either in on that or you're out on that. | ||
| There's no like, okay, well we'll talk about that a little bit. | ||
| It makes me wonder if Roger is super aware of that game in the moment that Alex is playing in. | ||
| Because at times it seems like he does. | ||
| But in this time, maybe it's just a I don't even want to play or whatever. | ||
| I mean, it could be. | ||
| Roger's old and... | ||
| He's not important anymore. | ||
| Maybe he's just tired. | ||
| Maybe he's just tired of being the globe-traveling rat fucker we all know. | ||
| He's also, like, he's wiggled out of so many tight spots over the course of his career, and, like, the last one was real tight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It required the literal president of the United States to get out of. | ||
| And it required a literal, oh, I'm a big Christian now. | ||
| Yes, yeah. | ||
| He had to do the whole thing. | ||
| Yeah, so maybe he's just kind of glad to be, like... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Outside of the prison. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we got Barnes also in the mix. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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| This is just like a big stew of people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He throws these people. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| Roger is on with Barnes for a little bit. | ||
| And then Barnes is on with Dershowitz for a little bit. | ||
| And so here's Alex asking Barnes a little question. | ||
| Barnes, we're going to break in a minute and a half, but what are you going to be covering coming up? | ||
| You'll be riding a shotgun with Dershowitz. | ||
| One minute on what's most important right now. | ||
| This is unprecedented and unparalleled territory. | ||
| Unprecedented and unparalleled? | ||
| We are a place where the left is willing to use any power it has to derail constitutional democracy and the rule of law in America. | ||
| And so, I mean, what we're facing, I mean, we've never had a situation where a former president has been indicted. | ||
| We've never had a situation where the leading opponent of the incumbent administration has been indicted. | ||
| This has never happened before. | ||
| So this is completely unprecedented. | ||
| And it probably is a bit of a weakness in our constitutional system that this wasn't addressed or resolved sooner. | ||
| But I think just as Trump exposed the corruption of the FBI, exposed the degree of power of the deep state, exposed the nature of the George Soros and Bill Gates globalist operations just by his presence triggering their opposition publicly and exposing themselves to the public. | ||
| Trump is now exposing how dangerously politically weaponized our criminal and civil justice systems really have become. | ||
| Quite a bit of analysis. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I mean, you know, the other guy who was on the show was convicted of, I mean, campaign fraud, essentially. | ||
| Lying to the FBI, in this case. | ||
| On Trump's behalf. | ||
| This whole thing, that wasn't even the worst crime that Trump committed that month. | ||
| We're way past where the rule of law might be an issue. | ||
| Also, Trump's personal lawyer went to prison for issues surrounding this exact same set of circumstances. | ||
| Most of the people in his orbit have done time! | ||
| Yeah, and at least one of them for things involving this same thing. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know, Barnes. | ||
| You're not convincing me. | ||
| So anyway, Alex has Dershowitz come in, and he's pretty excited. | ||
| He's pumped to have this guy. | ||
| Well, I'm excited after many years trying to get him on the show that we've got him. | ||
| I agree with him on about 90% of stuff, disagree about 10%, but nobody can deny that Alan Dershowitz is hands down America's top lawyer. | ||
| 90%, 10% means nothing. | ||
| That's just something that Alex says if he has someone that he should not like, to sort of dodge having to talk about the, hey, this is a guy who was Epstein's lawyer. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| That's a 10%. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it is like 90%, 10%. | ||
| It's just that the 10% is like a genocide. | ||
| It's always like, okay, well, listen, I agree with most of what this guy does. | ||
| Now, of course, he killed 17 million people with a poison shot, but we don't agree on everything. | ||
| 10%. | ||
| 10%! | ||
| Is that really that big a deal? | ||
| So Dershowitz sounds like, if you can imagine, someone who used to be one of Trump's lawyers. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Who is also on a book tour about a book that he wrote about how they're trying to jam Trump up. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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Kind of like a guy who's super invested and involved in supporting Trump who's also trying to sell a book about-Are you saying that maybe he's not an objective- He's a Democratic district attorney's and attorney's general. | |
| And now they are prosecuting. | ||
| Forget about the fact that he's the first former president to be prosecuted. | ||
| He's the first presidential candidate to be prosecuted. | ||
| And he's running against the head Democrat in the world, obviously, President Joe Biden. | ||
| And when a popularly elected Democratic DA swore to get Trump, is going after the man running against essentially his boss, the chief Democrat, he better have a slam dunk, ironclad case. | ||
| And I have to tell you, I haven't seen the indictment yet, but based on what I've seen, this may be the weakest case I've seen in my 60 years of practicing law. | ||
| So this is a great danger to American democracy and the rule of law. | ||
| And I hope that Americans and people all over the world will read my book, Get Trump, as a way of saying to brag, we're holding you accountable. | ||
| You may not be held accountable in New York. | ||
| Where everybody votes against Trump. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| We're going to hold the Attorney General of New York accountable by selling my book. | ||
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| Buy a copy of Get Trump Today. | ||
| Yep, yep. | ||
| Great work. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So anyway... | ||
| I feel like... | ||
| You make a great point, though, that he hasn't seen the indictment. | ||
| No. | ||
| This is the weakest thing I've ever seen. | ||
| I haven't seen it. | ||
| Here's a problem, I feel like, as far as trust in our justice system goes. | ||
| Everyone involved in the justice system is allowed to lie all the time. | ||
| And I feel like in order to have a justice system that you can trust, if you are participating in it, you can't lie. | ||
| I feel like that's so simple. | ||
| Like, that cops can lie is so fucked up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, cops should not be able to lie to me. | ||
| You know, that seems simple. | ||
| Like, lawyers, Jesus Christ, lawyers shouldn't be able to lie. | ||
| That's the number one thing lawyers shouldn't be able to do. | ||
| I think that there is some disciplinary action that could come from if you do it in a courtroom. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But outside of a courtroom. | ||
| How can I trust anybody inside a courtroom if outside the courtroom they're fucking lying all the goddamn time? | ||
| It's a challenge. | ||
| You know, like, I can't split those two apart. | ||
| No. | ||
| I get that people have this concept of, like, well, within these four walls. | ||
| And to me, those four walls are pretend. | ||
| They're pretend. | ||
| There are certain career paths that I think... | ||
| require a greater deal of integrity than others. | ||
| Lawyers are one, law enforcement people are another, elected officials are another. | ||
| Those are things where it's like you have a higher threshold because you are being entrusted with public trust. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| An insane amount of public trust and power. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I don't think people are held to those standards. | ||
| No. | ||
| And that is unfortunate. | ||
| They should hold themselves to it, quite frankly. | ||
| You would think. | ||
| You'd hope they would want to, but it turns out it's far more profitable not to. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, the trick is you have ethics investigations and committees and all of those things that are independent watchdogs to follow through and make sure that everybody's held accountable. | ||
| And then they get a $20,000 fine. | ||
| And then who? | ||
| Ah, yeah. | ||
| So Alan Dershowitz is pissed off at Michael Cohen because he thinks that he's an unreliable witness. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| But apparently he's also slandered Dershowitz, too. | ||
| A prosecutor can't put a witness on the stand who he knows or reasonably suspects may be lying. | ||
| Michael Cohen? | ||
| My God! | ||
| If the word "liar" appears in the dictionary, Michael Cohen is... | ||
| I mean, he's the man who's lying to his lawyer's life, to the federal authorities' life, to state authorities, and to tell you a recent interesting vignette involving me. | ||
| So his lawyers have now said, "Oh yeah, he was a liar in the past, he lied to everybody," but suddenly God has come down to him, lightning has struck, and he's suddenly turned into a complete truth-teller. | ||
| Well, two days ago he did a tweet about me! | ||
| Which constituted a defamatory lie. | ||
| He suggested that I was on Jeffrey Epstein's island with underage girls. | ||
| Obviously, that never happened. | ||
| The one person who accused me has now recanted and basically said, she may have mistaken me for somebody else. | ||
| Nobody has ever accused me. | ||
| Even she never accused me of being on Epstein's island. | ||
| Well, you're not on the flight logs, and no one has ever said they saw you other than one person. | ||
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| And so this will be something that you can use in cross-examination. | ||
| Let's see the discovery process on that one. | ||
| We're going to sue Michael Cohen. | ||
| That's big news. | ||
| Please tell us. | ||
| ...for defamation. | ||
| And then the question that if he takes the witness stand, he'll be asked, you say you started telling the truth, but you're just lying about Alan Dershowitz. | ||
| You know he wasn't on Epstein's Island. | ||
| You know he's never had sex with an underage girl. | ||
| You just got mad at him because he called you a liar. | ||
| So you made up a story about him. | ||
| So you're still lying, right? | ||
| How is he going to get around that? | ||
| Look, if these people need to turn this all into a circus, they're going to do that. | ||
| I understand that, and I want no part of it. | ||
| Also, you can tell Alex is like, why the fuck did you bring this up? | ||
| I know. | ||
| Dude, what the fuck is wrong with you? | ||
| Don't do this! | ||
| I don't know what the reality is with Dershowitz in terms of going to the island or his involvement with Epstein's crimes, but I do know that it's a lie that he wasn't on the flight logs. | ||
| Alex is just making that up, just as a reaction defense, kind of like a knee-jerk, or he's intentionally... | ||
| to cover for Dershowitz. | ||
| Dershowitz traveled on Epstein's private jet along with Ghislaine Maxwell, quote, one unidentified female, a Hazel and a Claire, in December 1997, long before he was his lawyer, working to get him a sweet slap on the wrist deal so he could keep hurting people. | ||
| And there were plenty of other trips between then and 2005. | ||
| An article about their connection in Gawker is so goddamn funny. | ||
| After all the logs came out and his connection to this very powerful, very evil child predator was made public, Dershowitz played the I barely know the guy card, insisting that they weren't friends and that their relationship was professional. | ||
| Gawker contrasts that with the comment that Dershowitz made in a Vanity Fair article that came out before the revelations of Epstein being a child sex trafficker came to light. | ||
| So in a different context, perhaps his answer is not the same. | ||
| He said, this is from that Vanity Fair, Alan Dershowitz says that as he was getting to know Epstein, his wife asked him if he would still be close to him if Epstein suddenly filed for bankruptcy. | ||
| Dershowitz says he replied, quote, He went on to say, quote, So yeah, they weren't friends. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That is... | ||
| Astonishing. | ||
| Yeah, they weren't close at all. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| So look, without drifting into some of the more uncertain territory, what we can say is that he was flying on Epstein's plane long before he had a real legitimate professional reason to, and seems to have been really comfortable talking about what good friends they were before everyone knew Epstein was a monster. | ||
| Take that how you will, but no matter what you think, it's really shameful shit for Alex to have him on as a guest and not grill him about this stuff. | ||
| Not only is Alex not pressing any hard questions about Epstein, Because he's pro-Trump. | ||
| This is just like how Alex had no idea about William Barr's connection to Epstein, like when Barr was playing ball with Trump. | ||
| But Alex suddenly remembered all that stuff as soon as Barr needed to be painted as an enemy because he didn't side with Trump. | ||
| Alex deprives his audience of being able to make an informed decision about people and events by only presenting a tailored version of reality curated to serve whatever the current narratives and needs are. | ||
| It's gross in general, but so much more gross in this case where it involves Epstein, a story that Alex claims he was the one who's in. | ||
| This is pathetic. | ||
| Yeah, what fucks me up... | ||
| What fucks me up about it so much is like, you know, when you... | ||
| I've complained many times that there aren't enough folk, you know? | ||
| And it is one of those things where it is Alex and his ilk that are standing in the way by claiming that everybody in the government is a pedophile from people actually holding the people on Epstein's circle accountable. | ||
| Like, it is Alex's job to run interference for those people. | ||
| By claiming all of this bullshit. | ||
| And now he's got Dershowitz on there to help whitewash his. | ||
| It's like, what the fuck? | ||
| If we were able to hold Epstein's... | ||
| If people who were on Epstein's flight logs were held accountable, how many people would we not have to deal with? | ||
| We would have a lot more people. | ||
| There's a few. | ||
| One of the things that I would say just in response to that is that I don't know if Alex is making it so he can't, but he's not helping. | ||
| That's definitely what it is. | ||
| Because I think that there's other people beyond just Alex and his right-wing shithead friends. | ||
| True. | ||
| No, absolutely that. | ||
| Absolutely that. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I found it to be a real bummer. | ||
| I mean, I know that Alex didn't cover Epstein before everyone else. | ||
| I know that's not the case. | ||
| We all know that. | ||
| But he thinks he is. | ||
| He was. | ||
| And this behavior is really out of sync with and disgraceful to who he's pretending to be. | ||
| And that's a bummer. | ||
| Yeah, at a certain point, I'm not mad at him from outside of InfoWars. | ||
| I'm mad at him from inside. | ||
| You know, like, you're wrong about you! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Brutal. | ||
| We're in the second hour at this point, and I noticed that Barnes was talking a lot more. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so they go to break, and they come back, and Alex has just left. | ||
| Welcome back. | ||
| To the Alex Jones Show, Robert Barnes here guest hosting with the one and only, the inimitable Professor Alan Dershowitz. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| The greatest living constitutional lawyer in our time on matters of criminal law, civil law, and political arena as well, has managed to cover all three in his lifetime. | ||
| A rare, someone that I would like to emulate over my legal career if I get the good fortune to do so. | ||
| Professor Dershowitz. | ||
| You may be able to emulate him in as much as you both have trash reputations. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex is gone. | ||
| Just gone? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Just gone? | ||
| Just gone. | ||
| Just gone? | ||
| Took off. | ||
| Was somebody whispering in his ear like, you know who Dershowitz is, right? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think he probably had a hearing to go to or something. | ||
| Yeah, most likely. | ||
| I have to assume because it's abrupt and he has a big guest on. | ||
| So I don't feel like it would have been just like a... | ||
| Uh, I'm not feeling it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or something. | ||
| I can't think of much that seems less entertaining than a Barnes-Dershowitz conversation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| About politics. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I listened to it, and it's not good. | ||
| No, I believe you. | ||
| We're not going to listen to any more of it. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Because then something else happens. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So Barnes is hosting with Dershowitz, and then all of a sudden Owen shows up. | ||
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Oh. | |
| Wild Cards Friday on the Alex Jones Show. | ||
| You've had Alex Jones, you've had Roger Stone, you've had Robert Barnes, you've had Alan Dershowitz, and now Owen Schroer and Robert Barnes and everybody talking about the Trump indictments today. | ||
| Don't care. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| So it's time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, I'm all... | ||
| I'm all... | ||
| Pumped. | ||
| I'm ready for the Trump indictment. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Spectacular. | ||
| And it turns out it's fucking wild card Friday. | ||
| Alex is there for maybe an hour and 20 minutes of the show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then Barnes takes over to interview Alan Dershowitz. | ||
| And then Owen shows up and he says he's going to take calls. | ||
| And I said, no. | ||
| That is a carousel of people on the stupid V evil continuum. | ||
| But what shit? | ||
| Yeah, that's garbage. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That is garbage. | ||
| Alex, it was supposed to... | ||
| I mean, that's big time. | ||
| Oh, think about that. | ||
| This is going to be... | ||
| I know it doesn't exist anymore, but if we were going to do This Is Your Life for Alex Jones and these are the people who showed up, you'd be like, man, that's about right. | ||
| This is your life, buddy. | ||
| Yeah, these are the people who weren't busy. | ||
| You did it. | ||
| But also, the other thing that I would say here is this, to me, feels like the main event of WrestleMania. | ||
| One of the competitors shows up. | ||
| And then bring some weirdo along. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then they leave halfway through the match and the weirdo's still there. | ||
| It's like, what's happening? | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| This is the main event! | ||
| Very serious! | ||
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The guy just got indicted. | |
| There is something about when you're a kid and you have two circles of friends and you bring one from the one circle of friends to your other circle friend's house and then you're like, oh man, I gotta go. | ||
| And then that person is just stuck there. | ||
| Like just abandoned to a group of strangers who don't like them. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds about right. | ||
| I just can't handle it. | ||
| I can't handle them like hot potatoing the hosting duties around. | ||
| Musical chairs or some shit. | ||
| Yeah, that's the sign of a good operation. | ||
| Having no idea who's going to be hosting in the next 15 minutes. | ||
| Oh, Barnes, we need you there for 15 minutes to fill the gap between when I'm leaving and when Owen will show up. | ||
| What? | ||
| Unreal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Unreal. | ||
| So anyway, that maybe, I mean, obviously this is a little bit of a shorter episode, but it's what happened. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's no other episode since then when we're recording, so what are we going to do? | ||
| What a bust. | ||
| Of course there isn't. | ||
| This is a wet blanket on our excitement about possible drunk hatchet throwing or something. | ||
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There is so many. | |
| I can't begin to describe the number of people see a clip of Alex. | ||
| And then send out a message in whatever avenue of like, I can't wait for the Knowledge Fight guys to cover this. | ||
| And every time I want to be like, listen. | ||
| I know you think that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're way wrong. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| A lot of times those clips are what goes around because they're the only thing. | ||
| Only thing, yeah. | ||
| And when they're put into their larger context, they often aren't as entertaining as they appear to be. | ||
| Or they're entertaining for a different reason. | ||
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Right. | |
| And those are the ones that I like. | ||
| The ones that are entertaining for a... | ||
| Much different reasons. | ||
| Like, the clip of Alex saying he was gonna eat his neighbors is great, but taken in the larger context of that episode where he keeps talking about it. | ||
| Yeah, even funnier. | ||
| Much, much funnier. | ||
| Much funnier. | ||
| You're not gonna get that shit from Rom, Philip, blah. | ||
| No, but this sucks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fuck you, Alex. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| This was your time to shine. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| That's the best time! | ||
| Like, he's gonna have more eyes on him because of the indictment. | ||
| Here's what we do. | ||
| I'm pitching this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All eyes are on Alex, obviously. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Night of... | ||
| Drunk hatchet-throwing. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Shows up the next morning completely hungover, but he pretends that he was just up all night having meetings. | ||
| 100. | ||
| So he has all of this inside information that he can riff off the top of his head. | ||
| Great. | ||
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Love it. | |
| He has Dershowitz in. | ||
| They talk a little bit about the law, and then he flips the script on him. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Takes him to task for being Epstein's lawyer. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| I lured you in here. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That is, I mean, honestly, I would actually fucking watch that shit. | ||
| Yeah, it'd be a better show. | ||
| It'd be a much better show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So anyway, you're going to be in Canada this week. | ||
| I will. | ||
| One of the reasons that we're recording in advance is that we're going to have episodes for the week. | ||
| You bet. | ||
| For everybody, so there will be no disruption of podcast manufacturing. | ||
| No service outages. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| And last month, you know, there was a lot of stuff going on. | ||
| You know, we had our live shows and then I went to Florida. | ||
| And so, you know, there's a lot less sneaking. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so, a lot less Wednesday episodes. | ||
| So I want to say, we may be sneaky this month. | ||
| We may be sneaking. | ||
| There may be some sneaking going on. | ||
| We didn't forget. | ||
| No! | ||
| When has the snake ever not snuck? | ||
| On a long enough time scale, snakes tend to sneak. | ||
| Also, furthermore, I mean, you can't sneak if you're always doing something. | ||
| People know where to look! | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But I was worried a little bit that people might have thought that we had retreated to our snake caves. | ||
| That's what you want. | ||
| You want them to think, oh, that's the end of sneaky snake episodes. | ||
| So maybe I'm doing a disservice by... | ||
| Or maybe it's a double bluff. | ||
| Could be. | ||
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Maybe we won't have any Sneaky Snake episodes in April. | |
| Ah, we'll see. | ||
| We'll find out next time, but until then, we have a website. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Yep, we're on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| Yes, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX. | ||
| Clark. | ||
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Oh, you know what? | |
| And now here comes the sex robot. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. |