#785: March 4, 2023
Today, Dan and Jordan return to the studio to check in on something they missed while taking a little breaky: the groundbreaking interview Alex had with Roseanne Barr.
March 13, 2023 - Knowledge Fight
02:51:37
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan, knowledge fight. | |
| I need, I need money. | ||
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Andy in Kansas. | |
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
|
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time calling in with you Japan. | ||
| I love your world. | ||
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Knowledge fight. | |
| Knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Hey, everybody! | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| I have a quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today? | ||
| Well, my bright spot today, Jordan, is uncharacteristically. | ||
| I have, since our live shows, actually taken a bit of time off. | ||
| I decided it was about time to just actually do what everyone keeps telling me to do. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| So what the fuck, I'll go ahead and take some time off. | ||
| It's your five-year anniversary since the last time you took time off. | ||
| Brutal. | ||
| So what I've been doing for most of the week is playing Far Cry. | ||
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Hell yeah. | |
| And, man! | ||
| Man, oh man. | ||
| I am not a first-person shooter guy. | ||
| I never liked Doom. | ||
| No Halo, none of that. | ||
| Not your jam. | ||
| I find guns to not be all that appealing, even though like... | ||
| Really, from a structural standpoint, if you have a magic wand or something like that, in a video game it is just a projectile. | ||
| Firing a projectile regardless of its firing object is firing a projectile. | ||
| But somehow the aesthetics of the gun games never really appealed to me. | ||
| And I don't really like really fast violence and stuff. | ||
| It's overwhelming to me. | ||
| And I think I had slotted most first-person shooter kind of games into the... | ||
| Those games that almost fetishistically recreate actual battles. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like Call of Duty, you're on Normandy, and you're like, this isn't where I want to be. | ||
| I don't know why I'm here, man. | ||
| Yeah, and a lot of that felt a little bit not up my alley. | ||
| It just felt weird. | ||
| I never really thought there would be much I would enjoy about recreating battles of history and stuff. | ||
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Sure, sure, sure, sure. | |
| But, you know, Giancarlo Esposito from Breaking Bad is the villain in the sixth one. | ||
| And so that got me to be like, give this a try, whatever. | ||
| It was heavily discounted on the PlayStation Plus. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| And so I gave it a try, and holy shit, the sixth one is nuts. | ||
| And so I fell deep into that hole. | ||
| And then I saw that the fifth one is about trying to do battle against a cult that has taken over a small area in Montana. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds familiar. | ||
| And I'm like, wow, this is alright. | ||
| I'll slide into this. | ||
| The word apropos comes to mind. | ||
| And it was free on PlayStation Plus. | ||
| I'm like, I'll try this too. | ||
| That's the same. | ||
| I've been jumping around in these games and it's a lot of fun. | ||
| It's a bunch of nonsense. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You get to have animal friends and you do little missions. | ||
| There's a lot of violence. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| I'm not desensitized to it or anything, but I also don't care. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'm also almost 40, so maybe... | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| I think there's something about the way that your mirror neurons fire and you empathize with somebody who is holding a gun that you could conceivably hold in your daily life. | ||
| That gives you more of a sense of immediacy and reality to it, as opposed to when you transpose those very same concepts into a place that can't... | ||
| I guess. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| And I think that the story overwhelms the action in some ways. | ||
| think that's very good yeah and I think that that kind of helps yeah whereas I think I think the way that I had pictured a lot of those like modern warfare and Call of Duty type stuff it's like the action is it's All there is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And maybe that's wrong of me to assume, because I don't know, I've never played them. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| It just appears that way to me. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Whereas the immersion of, like, in the sixth one, you're fighting some guerrilla warfare against an oppressive regime, and the fifth one, you're fighting this cult that has taken over, and it's real weird. | ||
| So, like, you know, there is stuff that you can really get absorbed in. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the animal friends. | ||
| I mean, and that's another situation. | ||
| You know, you transpose that over there. | ||
| The thing is, the story, now they have to make up the whole story, you know? | ||
| Like, with a call of duty, they can be like, hey, you're fighting in Vietnam, and you assume all the shit that comes from fighting. | ||
| They don't need to tell you about that. | ||
| They're like, you're like, fuck, my grandfather is there in this game. | ||
| He's right next to me, you know? | ||
| Is it possible in those games to go AWOL? | ||
| Can you desert? | ||
| Can you be a conscientious objector? | ||
| Can you immediately? | ||
| Absolutely, yes. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| It's just a simulator of working at a national park. | ||
| You've got a bone spur, so you get stationed very far away from any action. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway, so I've been doing a lot of that, and it's a lot of fun. | ||
| Animal Friends. | ||
| Yeah, Animal Friends are great. | ||
| My bright spot, Dan, is, I mean, largely baseball. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It's returning. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But in specific, it is the World Baseball Classic, Dan. | ||
| That is essentially the World Cup, but for baseball. | ||
| Now, in the World Cup, all countries around the world, they're really good at football because that's what they play, you know? | ||
| In the World Cup and baseball, right now there's three good teams. | ||
| Yeah, it's limited. | ||
| It's very limited. | ||
| There's 20 total teams, though. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So what's fun about it is the USA and Japan and the Dominican Republic have essentially been... | ||
| Between the three teams, a thousand Hall of Famers on the teams. | ||
| And everybody else has everybody else in the minor leagues. | ||
| And it is fucking fantastic to watch them. | ||
| Play each other. | ||
| Because everything is tense, you know? | ||
| There's mistakes. | ||
| People are bunting and shit. | ||
| The ground ball took a bad hop. | ||
| That doesn't matter. | ||
| That's never mattered in a professional baseball game, but here it's important. | ||
| It's a little bit like watching the Little League World Series. | ||
| It feels to me like how I remember. | ||
| Maybe this isn't accurate at all, but like... | ||
| Basketball in the Olympics. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Back in the day. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| There were not many good teams. | ||
| It wasn't really a basketball world back then. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It was more of a Michael Jordan world. | ||
| That is pretty exciting, though. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, it's great. | ||
| You know what I'd recommend you do? | ||
| Go watch a Little League game. | ||
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Because it sounds like you would enjoy the hell out of it. | |
| But what's also great about it is that watching the best teams is going to be... | ||
| On the Japanese team, you have, I don't know if you've heard of him. | ||
| Yeah, you've got Shohei Otani. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
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Right, right. | |
| Now, here's the great part about the Japanese baseball team. | ||
| Shohei Otani is neither the greatest hitter nor the greatest pitcher on their team. | ||
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Wow. | |
| He's a close second for both, which again makes him the greatest baseball player ever to live. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But they've got a 20-year-old pitcher. | ||
| Named Sasaki. | ||
| He throws 101 on the daily. | ||
| Doesn't even try. | ||
| Just throwing 101 left and right. | ||
| Just getting out of bed. | ||
| He's walking out and he accidentally throws 101. | ||
| 101. | ||
| And then they've got a hitter who's maybe projected to probably be the best hitter in the major leagues in the next five years or whatever. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| So are they your pick? | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Then, on the USA, you've got Trout. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You've got fucking Nolan Arenado. | ||
| Their pitching staff is garbage. | ||
| I thought you were going to say Nolan Ryan. | ||
| Am I like, he's back? | ||
| No, he's not back. | ||
| He might be. | ||
| But yeah, you've got the best. | ||
| You've got Mookie Betts. | ||
| You've got three former MVPs. | ||
| You've got multiple MVPs. | ||
| You know, like that whole thing. | ||
| Bryce, whatever his name is. | ||
| Bryce Harper? | ||
| No, he's injured. | ||
| He's not coming back until the second half of the season, I think. | ||
| What about my boy Johnny Damon? | ||
| Johnny Damon, he's been actually in the forest, missing for the past 15 years. | ||
| I just tried to come up with names I remember from when I played fantasy baseball. | ||
| Yeah, anyways, and then the Dominican Republic, out of this world, pitching staff, Sandy Alcantara is the reigning Cy Young winner. | ||
| It's amazing! | ||
| It's going to be incredible! | ||
| Are those three teams at least in different divisions? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| They won't meet until the end. | ||
| So what's fun now is we're watching a bunch of bad teams play baseball for their country. | ||
| So it's so intense. | ||
| They care so much. | ||
| And then they're all going to lose. | ||
| And then we're going to watch the USA and Japan and the Dominican Republic fight each other. | ||
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I'm excited for you. | |
| Yeah, it's great. | ||
| I hope it's a blast. | ||
| I actually kind of hope that there's some kind of a Cinderella story. | ||
| Oh, totally. | ||
| That's the fun! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, the U.S. gets unseated by... | ||
| I'll tell you this. | ||
| Chili. | ||
| Chinese Taipei. | ||
| All right? | ||
| They just defeated the Netherlands, which is a huge upset on account of them being Chinese Taipei. | ||
| And Netherlands has been in the World Baseball Classic for years and stuff, so they're really just finding their footsteps on playing baseball at all. | ||
| They came out and won. | ||
| If they make it out of their group with Japan, fucking incredible. | ||
| You'll see the world, I mean, occasionally be like, whoa, that'll be it. | ||
| I imagine I'll see nothing. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| But that is very exciting. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And on account of our live episodes and my week off, we've had a little bit of time where we have not seen what's been going on with Alex. | ||
| And in that intervening time, something very big happened. | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| Do you know what I'm talking about? | ||
| No, no idea. | ||
| A big interview. | ||
| A big interview with, for Alex? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, well, I mean, the idea is I don't know what's going on. | ||
| I understand that, but this might be something that you would not have been able to avoid. | ||
| Okay, well, I avoided it. | ||
| Like a hero. | ||
| Well, congratulations. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I don't know if I should spoil this for you up front or let it happen in the episode. | ||
| I assume, here's what'll be fun. | ||
| I assume plenty of people listening already know. | ||
| Everyone. | ||
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So it'll be fun to relive finding out. | |
| All right. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| We'll get down to business on that. | ||
| But before we do, Jordan, let's say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| Oh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, hundreds of hours in, and I still haven't figured out what Alex thinks actuary means. | ||
| And then this is attributed to Teeny the Cat. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Actuary is a term that Alex throws out whenever he needs to lie about something that involves statistics and vague future predictions. | ||
| I think he means spreadsheet. | ||
| Or soothsayer. | ||
| But with a spreadsheet. | ||
| Next, hey Bryce, I like you and I love you and could you fill up my water bottle for me? | ||
| Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Next, Yakman and Jerbear. | ||
| Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you! | ||
| Next, the future ex-Mrs. | ||
| Alex Jones. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Wait a second, is that... | ||
| Get in line. | ||
| Is that her? | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Next, the dirty liberal from Butler, Pennsylvania. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Hey, I'm Jordan. | ||
| We got a technocrat in the mix. | ||
| So thank you so much to I Listen to Knowledge Fight for 22,000 minutes in 2022 and have the receipts to prove it. | ||
| Take my money. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| I have risen above my enemies. | ||
| I might quit tomorrow, actually. | ||
| I'm just going to take a little breaky now. | ||
| A little breaky for me. | ||
| And then we're going to come back. | ||
| And I'm going to start the show over. | ||
| But I'm the devil! | ||
| I've got to be taken over here! | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| I've got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your New World Order, and fuck the horse you rode in on, and all your shit! | ||
| Maybe today should be my last broadcast. | ||
| Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. | ||
| Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow, and you never see me again. | ||
| That's really what I want to do. | ||
| I never want to come back here again. | ||
| I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. | ||
| I'll be better tomorrow. | ||
| He's not. | ||
| Nor shall he ever be. | ||
| What happened there? | ||
| Were you taking a sip of your iced tea when I played the clip so you didn't get to say thank you? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I said thank you too early. | ||
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I say thank you after the technocrat drop. | |
| I said it too early. | ||
| I see. | ||
| I was very confused by your body language. | ||
| We took a week off. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| Got some rust. | ||
| It's rusty, I'm saying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We could get beat by the Netherlands. | ||
| So, here's a little out of context drop from today's show. | ||
| Let's go to break. | ||
| Because you may not need a break, but I gotta go pee-pee. | ||
| He's gotta go pee-pee. | ||
| So, uh, that's the kind of interview we've got. | ||
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Alright. | |
| One where he's gotta go pee-pee. | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| So he's drinking. | ||
| So we've got an interview where Alex is drinking. | ||
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Yep. | |
| He's gotta go pee-pee. | ||
| Guest is drinking. | ||
| Oh, the guest is drinking. | ||
| So Alex is not the guest. | ||
| No. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| This is in studio. | ||
| Okay, this is in studio. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Alright, everybody's drinking. | ||
| Guest also smoking a cigarette in Alex's studio. | ||
| Wait, it's Dave Chappelle? | ||
| Is it Dave Chappelle? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Not that big. | ||
| Actually, it's debatable. | ||
| I think you could make an argument that this guest is maybe... | ||
| Huh. | ||
| More longevity, I think. | ||
| Actually, that's not fair, because Dave Chappelle's career has gone quite a ways back. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, it's tough. | ||
| I wouldn't know how to gauge it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, I'll wait until I see further. | ||
| So, I guess we'll sort out whether or not this person is more or less famous than Dave Chappelle. | ||
| Somebody smoking in the studio with Alex Jones and drinking. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I mean, look, you have to kind of get the sense that, like, Alex has to be pretty subservient for someone to just light up a cigarette in his studio. | ||
| Totally, totally. | ||
| And it's not Joe Rogan, because I know that that's not happening anymore. | ||
| I think Joe could show up there. | ||
| It wouldn't go the other way. | ||
| No, no, it wouldn't go the other way. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But I wouldn't put it past Joe to show up there. | ||
| But I don't know. | ||
| I don't think Joe smokes cigarettes. | ||
| He would smoke a cigar. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| That's what he would do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So anyway, here's the first clip where we start off before the guest arrives. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Ladies and gentlemen, I'm Alex Jones, your host. | ||
| It's Saturday, March 4, 2023. | ||
| It is 1210, exactly, Central Standard Time. | ||
| And I have been gone for close to a week, though I did host about half of the shows. | ||
| I have dedicated myself to spending more time with family, with my parents, and... | ||
| With my children and others, because I've just been working seven days a week for 28 years, and I've just been committed to do that. | ||
| I'm doing some catching up, even though the world's in a more intense and sane place than ever. | ||
| I've committed to take off at least five, six days purely every month to spend it exclusively with my family, because that is so important to do. | ||
| Who knows how long we'll even be here. | ||
| So Alex didn't take the time off specifically to only spend time with his family. | ||
| In that clip, he even said that he hosted his show some of the days over the phone, and other days he called in while one of the idiots was hosting. | ||
| He's just taking more vacations because he knows that pretty soon he won't be able to afford that shit. | ||
| When his finances are appropriately scrutinized, he's screwed. | ||
| I get why he can't be honest with the audience about it, but it's a bit sad. | ||
| It's a bummer. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it would be a hard ask for the audience to forgive you if you're like, well, I've committed to Brewster's millioning for the rest of my... | ||
| I gotta get rid of all this, because it's gone. | ||
| It is not going to be mine for much longer, so so long as I can, I will spend it. | ||
| The difference between this and Brewster's millions is like, the premise was that you get it at the end, right? | ||
| Like, he has to spend all the money, and then he gets the inheritance. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's nothing at the end of this rainbow for Alex. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| The end of this rainbow is just a different type of zero. | ||
| Either way, the feeling of, I got one over and now I have zero, or I screwed up and I'm losing for everything. | ||
| Yeah, but he's taking a lot of vacations. | ||
| Yeah, well, he's trying to get one over. | ||
| It's pretty wild. | ||
| So, we got a theme. | ||
| To this show. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's not just a show where he comes in and is going to talk to a very famous guest. | ||
| He also has a theme. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The theme of this transmission today is the Great Awakening is here. | ||
| The chain reaction has taken place. | ||
| Humanity, a large segment of it, is waking up at an explosive rate. | ||
| So that's the new catchphrase that Alex has. | ||
| That's the new branding. | ||
| Explosive rate? | ||
| No, the chain reaction. | ||
| Chain reaction, gotcha. | ||
| He's co-opted the Great Awakening from QAnon, but that was working for a bit, but you know how Alex is. | ||
| He kind of wants to have something that's his own. | ||
| It's more exclusive to his platform, and it's something that implies that his victory is inevitable. | ||
| So he landed on the chain reaction. | ||
| The chain reaction. | ||
| The basic gist is that he's saying that the inciting event has already happened, and now a chain reaction is in progress that can't be stopped. | ||
| Anything the globalists try to do will just trigger another aspect of that chain reaction and then blow up in their face. | ||
| I think there's a little bit of truth to this, but not as much as Alex is selling. | ||
| The far-right media has succeeded in radicalizing a significant portion of the population to the point where they live in a completely different reality and nothing will ever reach them. | ||
| Internal communications from Fox News can come out in the Dominion lawsuit that clearly illustrate that they lie to their audience intentionally and knowingly and Tucker will remain the most important person in the world to them. | ||
| Study after study can come out showing that the vaccine worked and ivermectin didn't and a lot of people will continue to follow and trust the people who still preach the opposite. | ||
| I don't think this is really... | ||
| chain reaction, but Alex is correct that he's helped foster and train a segment of the population to be blindly oppositionally defiant and ready to be mobilized against any right-wing culture war battle that the people who are in charge want. | ||
| The media, the right-wing media, will just say, go, and then they're like, ah, I'm so bad. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| My most recent favorite is a bank collapsed, and what I'm hearing is that recently they hired somebody to help with diversity or something. | ||
| So, the argument is very clear. | ||
| If you hire someone for diversity, then you will destroy the global financial system. | ||
| Go woke, go bankrupt. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah, we've heard it a million times. | ||
| No, it happens every day. | ||
| That's what happened with... | ||
| Ken Lay. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| One day I walked over and I helped an LGBTQ plus person, and then $5 got stolen from my back pocket instantly. | ||
|
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Go woke, go broke. | |
| It's go woke, go broke. | ||
| I think an actual chain reaction is what's happening with Alex's legal struggles. | ||
| He defamed grieving parents, and that triggered a lawsuit. | ||
| The lawsuit triggered him being completely uncooperative to the point where he was hit with a default judgment and ended up owing over a billion dollars. | ||
| This gigantic judgment and the looming fear that he knew he was going to lose that case triggered Alex to try to pull off a phony bankruptcy and to mess around with his finances and possibly hide money in various places, like by creating Alex Jones Live, which is totally unrelated to free speech systems. | ||
| Completely unrelated. | ||
| The revelation of Alex Jones Live led the bankruptcy court to order him to suspend that show and demand discovery of all documents related to that show and the claims that he made on air about it being separate from free speech systems. | ||
| We're yet to see what this triggers, but I don't think it's completely out of the question to assume that Alex may have opened himself up to criminal liability. | ||
| If he's up to no good and he ends up being charged with bankruptcy fraud, that's not a matter of fines. | ||
| Yeah, and again, with discovery, that includes, I would hope we understand by now, any sort of text communications or email. | ||
| communications, such as ones that might include a conversation along the lines of, hey, Tim, they're going to take all of my money. | ||
| How do I hide some? | ||
| Let's start a different show unrelated to this. | ||
| Totally unrelated. | ||
| Totally unrelated. | ||
| Not at all bankruptcy fraud. | ||
| Yeah, and I mean, look, he didn't comply with the discovery in the last case, and I don't expect that he would be much more forthcoming now, but that could be much more of a problem in these circumstances than in these cases. | ||
| In a civil case. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Obviously, that's a pretty unlikely outcome for him to go to jail, but if there's ever been a case of someone who could be shown to be using the bankruptcy courts in the system in bad faith, it's definitely Alex. | ||
| If I were him, I'd be taking every fucking vacation I could as well. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Because it might not just be a matter of him being broke. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He could fuck around and uncooperate himself into prison. | ||
| Yeah, it's very interesting to see the differing justice systems in action where it's like, listen, Listen, you can hurt people and harass people and destroy people, but we'll give you the benefit of the doubt. | ||
| You fuck with our money, you're dead. | ||
| We are coming for you. | ||
| So anyway, Alex, I don't know if you know this, was in Cancun. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Do you remember that? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He went to Cancun again. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And people love him. | ||
| So let me, again, give you... | ||
| An anecdotal example. | ||
| You can see all the real-world examples yourself around you and describe what happened. | ||
| I went for about six days with my family to a vacation destination in Mexico, and I got mobbed at the Texas airport in Austin. | ||
| I got mobbed continually in Mexico, even though I was kind of hiding out just on the beach. | ||
| I got mobbed everywhere. | ||
| And flying back out of Cancun yesterday, we got to the airport about two hours for the flight. | ||
| We got through security really quickly. | ||
| And so I went and sat in a corner of a restaurant that was probably only a third full. | ||
| And basically everyone in the restaurant came over and shook my hand and said, we know about the New World Order. | ||
| The Great Awakening's here. | ||
| We're going to beat them together. | ||
| It was like Fight Club. | ||
| Ooh, I heard the chain reactions happening. | ||
| It is like Fight Club, because he's imagining things. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, that would make sense. | ||
| It is very much like Fight Club. | ||
| They are all people in his head coming up to say, thank you. | ||
| You've done such great work. | ||
| When I heard that clip, I thought it was imagining things. | ||
| Because like I said, Alex just got back from a vacation in Mexico, so I thought at first he was talking about the same one. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But he said he came back and was at the airport the day prior, which would have been March 3rd. | ||
| So it has to be a different Cancun vacation than the one he just got back from on our episode from February 21st. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Vacations to Cancun. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Something is seriously up with this. | |
| And if I had to guess, it's just a matter of wasting money and living lavishly before that's not an option anymore. | ||
| There's an outside chance that Alex has picked up like a side gig mewling fentanyl across the border. | ||
| I mean, you know, if he were setting up contacts for his inevitable departure from the United States for good. | ||
| I'm trying to buy a house. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| I just appreciate a man. | ||
| I'm doing research on extradition. | ||
| A man who is at the tip of the spear. | ||
| During a time when the globalists are more on the attack than ever, making sure his audience knows he's on vacation. | ||
| Oh, and we might get nuked at any minute. | ||
| Five minutes until everyone's dead. | ||
| I'm going to get out of here. | ||
| I'm going to go on my second vacation to Cancun in three weeks. | ||
| Hey, listen. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Look me in the eyes. | ||
| I know you trust me. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I just told you that a nuclear war is imminent. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I got to get out of here. | ||
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I'll never give in, but I might give out. | |
| I might go to Cancun again. | ||
| I'm gonna have a good time. | ||
| Whenever the shit hits the fan, I might be having a margarita at a luxury resort in Cancun. | ||
| There's a nuclear bomb coming and a Mai Tai in my mouth. | ||
| We're doing it. | ||
| What an asshole. | ||
| So, the last time that Alex went to Cancun, we remember the security guard that he had told him that he overheard everyone on the beach telling him that they loved him. | ||
| So I guess on this trip, folks have gotten a little bit bolder in actually mobbing him. | ||
| Or more realistically, Alex got used to telling that lie about his security guard, and it just wasn't exciting for him anymore, so he needed to juice it up with comical exaggerations. | ||
| I mean, it just gets excessive. | ||
| The Mexican Waiters. | ||
| We're all fans, and we're talking about what I had done on the show. | ||
| We love how you hate us! | ||
| We noticed you were live Monday and Tuesday, but now you're going back to Texas today. | ||
| We're going to be tuning in Sunday. | ||
| Are you going to be doing a special show Saturday? | ||
| I mean, that's the Mexican waiter. | ||
| Then Mexican nationals who were visiting from Mexico City came over. | ||
| Then people from Germany, people from Wales, England, people from South Korea. | ||
| I mean, on and on and on, and I'm sitting there for an hour, getting up, taking pictures, and we're looking around the restaurant, and I'm like, wait a minute. | ||
| We're sitting here in the corner in the back. | ||
| The place is two-thirds empty. | ||
| Most of the tables are open, and my wife goes, yeah, everyone has come over and is a listener. | ||
| Everyone. | ||
| It's just he's so big. | ||
| He's huge. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Roughly... | ||
| I would say 40% of the population listens to him now, because last I checked, it was at 1.5 billion, so you've got to assume it's 2 or 3 right now. | ||
| Well, I mean, if we're being sincere operators, we have to accept that this sample from the restaurant tells us that 100% of the world are listeners. | ||
| It does seem like even if he is... | ||
| I suppose on a near constant basis arguing for the non-existence of anyone who looks like you, you're still a fan. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How could you not be? | ||
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He's just that good. | |
| How could you not be? | ||
| He's too good! | ||
| So everyone loves Alex so much. | ||
| I just love him. | ||
| Can't stop from mobbing him. | ||
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Also... | |
| Can't stop from mobbing him. | ||
| Now, let's just recall the number of times we have seen Alex interact with people who love him. | ||
| It is generally not like, oh, I love sitting in the corner of this restaurant where I can't run away from you. | ||
| He usually seems to fight with people who run away. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But that's not when he's drunk on margaritas, on vacation with the fam. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| And he has a security guard right there. | ||
| Well, yeah, that helps. | ||
| So not only was everyone giving him love. | ||
| They're also giving him free shit. | ||
| They could not stop giving him free shit. | ||
| We'd order dinner. | ||
| They'd go, would you like some free lobster? | ||
| Would you like some free tequila? | ||
| I'm like, stop. | ||
| And again, it's not me bragging, oh, I'm famous, oh, I'm successful. | ||
| The enemy has tried to destroy me with everything they've got. | ||
| They have thrown every lie, every twisted disinformation piece. | ||
| They have tried to make me Satan. | ||
| And it's not that I'm that good as a talk show host. | ||
| It definitely isn't bad. | ||
| It's that people hate the system so much that they then just go, well, if the system's attacking you, you must be good. | ||
| And I got told that by so many Mexicans. | ||
| We took the ferry over to Isla Mejara's and spent a couple days over there on a little beautiful island. | ||
| I've been going since I was a kid, but there was basically nothing on it. | ||
| Now it's built up. | ||
| And it was insane. | ||
| Oh, your drink's free. | ||
| Why? | ||
| We love your work. | ||
| Oh, that bag of chips your daughter wants? | ||
| Just, it's free. | ||
| And then the Mexicans are trying to give us beer, give us tequila, everywhere. | ||
| I'm like, why? | ||
| They go, sir, we love you. | ||
| We know when the system comes after somebody, they are good. | ||
| We are with you. | ||
| We love you. | ||
| I mean, it was so intense, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| It was insane, the level of support. | ||
| He's doing that Trump thing with the sir stories. | ||
| I mean, yeah, I suppose the kernel of truth in there might be that he's in an everything included resort and everybody just keeps bringing him drinks because that's how it works. | ||
| That's kind of what I was thinking based on the other times that I've seen where Alex has stayed when he's on vacations. | ||
| Like, he's probably just spending a whole lot. | ||
| Or the other version of this that I could believe is that a bartender gave him a free drink because he thought he needed it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| You look sad, dude. | ||
| Hey, you're a mope. | ||
| I don't know who you are, but you... | ||
| We seem to really need this, so I'm going to say, wow, I love your show! | ||
| I want to take a quick second here, though, to break down some of Alex's thinking. | ||
| These people in Mexico are coming up to him and giving him all this free stuff, and they say that they're doing it because they know the system is against Alex, which means he must be good. | ||
| This is not how most people think, but it is how Alex thinks. | ||
| Most people take the information available about a person, and then they make an assessment based on that, but this isn't how Alex experiences the world. | ||
| For Alex, everything is about defining yourself based on opposition. | ||
| He knows that he's onto something when people attack him for saying it, because he's convinced himself that his imaginary enemies attack him the most when he's over the target, and thus negative attention and consequences are actually signs of virtue. | ||
| This is a coping mechanism that Alex has developed so he doesn't have to hear or consider criticism of the dangerous, stupid, and irresponsible actions that he engages in basically on a daily basis. | ||
| Most people in the real world living their lives don't need to employ this level of escapism to get through the day so they don't come up with absurd rationalizations like this. | ||
| People who are already fully indoctrinated into the Infowar maybe have accepted Alex's premise on this shit, so I guess if everyone Alex encountered on his second vacation of the month were dyed-in-the-wool Infowarriors, this could happen, I guess. | ||
| I think it's more likely that Alex is making up a story and mysteriously every other character in it thinks exactly how he does, because Alex has no creativity or ability to understand that other people's minds work differently than his own. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's an idiot. | ||
| None of this happened. | ||
| He has no creativity. | ||
| His creativity is what he would say if he came up to himself and said, I love you. | ||
| His imaginary enemies mysteriously have all the plans that he would do if he were them. | ||
| Everybody, every character in his story is either a demon walking around who's possessed or they think exactly like him. | ||
| It's so crazy how the world works. | ||
| I'd love to read an Alex Jones screenplay, though, because it would probably be... | ||
| One of the more absurd and twisted things. | ||
| I think it was iRobot. | ||
| I think that was the one that he wrote. | ||
| So, look, man. | ||
| Everyone loves him. | ||
| And even leftists don't fuck with him anymore. | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
| No one. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| I see a few leftists looking at me. | ||
| He's going... | ||
| With their mouths open and they just don't even know what to say and they kind of just keep looking at me. | ||
| Well, it's better than look at this asshole. | ||
| They're not coming up getting in my face because they know they got screwed. | ||
| They know they got lied to with the poison shots. | ||
| They know I'm right in the main. | ||
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And they know you've lost one and a half billion dollars. | |
| So, I'm going to give you the good news here. | ||
| This isn't me talking about myself. | ||
| Again, I've said this a hundred times because it's so critical to understand. | ||
| You are blessed if you're a school teacher or a farmer or a... | ||
| Bus driver or a police officer or a doctor or you work at a bank. | ||
| You got your life. | ||
| You got your family. | ||
| You want to go speak at city council? | ||
| You can. | ||
| You should. | ||
| You want to go to the school board? | ||
| Great. | ||
| You speak out. | ||
| But you're not a public person. | ||
| You get to be private. | ||
| And the enemies of freedom have tried to make my life a living hell. | ||
| They've tried to destroy me. | ||
| Anybody else has stuck their head up or resisted them. | ||
| And I can tell you as a gauge, kind of like... | ||
| You get a turkey for Christmas or Thanksgiving and you buy the metal thermometer, you know, because the old one broke or whatever, and you stick the thermometer in the turkey. | ||
| Take care of your thermometers? | ||
| Every hour or so to see if you've gotten the middle of it cooked. | ||
| And that's all I am is a thermometer. | ||
| I'm a gauge because I'm well known. | ||
| My face is out there. | ||
| And let me explain something. | ||
| These aren't just people interested to take a photo with me and say they like me. | ||
| No. | ||
| I would ask the people. | ||
| I'd say, oh, really? | ||
| What's the last time you tuned in? | ||
| Two days ago? | ||
| You were talking about this. | ||
| Or they'll start telling you, oh, I was tuned in last few days to Owen. | ||
| We love Owen, but when are you back? | ||
| When are you back? | ||
| I'm like, well, I'm back tomorrow. | ||
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We thought so. | |
| We thought so. | ||
| What time? | ||
| What time? | ||
| I got asked at least 10 times in the Cancun airport when I was live again, and before I could get out of my mouth a couple times, they go, noon, noon, or will it be 2 o 'clock? | ||
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So... | |
| Your word of mouth, you spreading the word about the broadcast, all of you, has caused a chain reaction. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| None of this happened. | ||
| No. | ||
| But, like, imagine how fucking antisocial it seems to be. | ||
| Like, someone comes up and is like, hey, I'm a big fan. | ||
| Oh, yeah, name three of my songs. | ||
| Yeah, that's crazy. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| That is crazy. | ||
| That's nuts. | ||
| He's challenging them, like, I don't believe that you like me. | ||
| That didn't happen. | ||
| What's stranger about that is that if somebody... | ||
| Accurately told me what was on... | ||
| Like, if I'm Alex and somebody accurately told me what I said two days ago, that's how I would know they are not a fan. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Because that means that they listen and remember the things that I say. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So I would have told them something two days ago that directly contradicts literally what I'm talking to them about right now. | ||
| It would be cause for concern. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I've run away. | ||
| This clip was a tortured and painfully drawn out way for Alex just to say that his experiences are a mirror for how the Patriots are doing and when people are nice to him, the Patriots are winning and when people are mean to him, the globalists are about to nuke everyone and there's no hope and get in your bunkers and flee the cities. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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I get what he's trying to convey, but I question if that metaphor is actually even what he's trying to get at. | |
| I know Alex pretty well and I've seen the kinds of places he frequents like when he goes on vacation and they aren't cheap. | ||
| It seems like a bunch of, like... | ||
| He seems to me like the guy at the casino who's like, man, the blackjack dealer was so nice. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%. | ||
| They were being paid. | ||
| They want to keep you at the table. | ||
| I can't believe how much they were interested in what I do. | ||
| They were trying to keep me talking for as long as possible. | ||
| It has that vibe to it. | ||
| I don't know, but I do like the idea. | ||
| Of Alex's new nickname, the meat thermometer of liberty. | ||
| I would alter the metaphor just a little bit, and I would say Alex is more like the turkey, and it's time to stick a fork in him. | ||
| He's done. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's for sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, Alex has a thought, and it's of a song. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| And it's a rockin' song. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's not about me getting praise that, oh, I feel good about things because I'm getting praise. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| It's knowing that I'm supposedly Satan in the mainstream media. | ||
| Hundreds of articles a day. | ||
| Thousands and thousands of TV programs a month. | ||
| Thousands. | ||
| On local news, national, foreign. | ||
| Lying, lying, lying, lying, lying, lying, lying. | ||
| And you've got that old great song by Alice Cooper, No More Mr. Nice Guy. | ||
| And if you listen to No More Mr. Nice Guy, will you guys print me the lyrics to No More Mr. Nice Guy? | ||
| I'll run in real quick, thanks. | ||
| He says, I got no friends to read the papers. | ||
| They can't be seen with me. | ||
| And I'm feeling real shot down, and I'm feeling mean. | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| Back when Alice Cooper wrote that 35, 40 years ago, this is 40 years ago now, if the newspapers attacked you, man, you were prosada non grata. | ||
| That was the unofficial social credit score. | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| those newspapers have less than an 8% approval rating in national polls. | ||
| So does mainstream corporate broadcast media and all the cable media. | ||
| They are so universally or almost universally reviled that the only thing that would hurt me would be if the newspaper started endorsing me. | ||
| The media doesn't think that Alex is Satan. | ||
| They just think he's a fraud and a liar who's prioritized profits over every measure of decency, and his actions have led to tremendous pain, which he doesn't care about at all. | ||
| There aren't thousands of articles about him written, but it's always suspicious that he doesn't include in that list of his persecutions a podcast about him with almost 800 episodes that sold out two nights of live shows in under half an hour and has caused his employees to not want to be corporate representatives for him. | ||
| At fear of being mocked. | ||
| So weird that that's not on the list. | ||
| At the very least, we cost him $30,000 higher on Brittany Paz. | ||
| Yeah, it seems like that could have been maybe something that's on that list. | ||
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Yeah, it seems weird. | |
| Weird. | ||
| The No More Mr. Nice Guy thing is interesting because Alex seems to be saying that his situation is somehow comparable to the lyrics of that song, only for it to actually be the opposite. | ||
| A small point Alex forgets is the second verse of that song is about Alice Cooper trying to go to church and the reverend punching him in the nose. | ||
| So it doesn't quite work for his thing. | ||
| Hell, nobody remembers the second verse. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| That song was kind of a joke about his public image, and in interviews he's been pretty aware of the fact that this bad press and social ostracization, it made his career. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because without the theatrics, who knows if that band would have even been a success. | ||
| No, I mean, it's great. | ||
| His live show is incredible. | ||
| He does the whole thing. | ||
| Frank Zappa told him to never deny absurd stories about yourself. | ||
| Yeah, no, there's no way that Gwar is just a regular-ass band and they still become Gwar. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, not happening. | ||
| Yeah, Alice Cooper recording the bad press in the same way that Alex will do shit like ranting about eating his neighbors, hoping for people in the actual media to cover it so his name gets out there and people keep talking about him. | ||
| Also, if Alex's theory about how you're a persona non grata if the papers were against you back in the day, if that was actually true, we wouldn't know the name Alice Cooper. | ||
| Alex's point is essentially self-debunking. | ||
| Yeah, like, okay, okay, hold on. | ||
| Are you telling me that if the papers were against you, you were persona non grata? | ||
| Now, are we talking about the late 80s and 90s? | ||
| Right around the time whenever every paper on the fucking country was like, rap music is bad for you! | ||
| Yeah, never heard of it. | ||
| Yeah, never came back. | ||
| Also, Alex will still trot out that statistic about approval ratings, and I've never heard him cite where he's getting that number from, and it hasn't been updated in years. | ||
| It's wildly inconsistent, too. | ||
| He always just has it under 10%, basically. | ||
| Just choose whatever number he wants. | ||
| I have two rebuttals. | ||
| The first is that I would love to see a national poll and what it would come up with if they tried to gauge the approval rating of Alex Jones. | ||
| If he thinks it's going to be higher than 10%, I think he's got another thing coming, to quote Judas Priest. | ||
| Ah, well done. | ||
| Alex will get some traction on Twitter here and there because people love posting sensational things he says, but in terms of actual support, it's gotta be next to nothing. | ||
| He puts out episodes of his show on his website and they end up getting about 200,000 views, which is shit. | ||
| Assuming that each of these views represents 10 people who like Alex, which is generous as an assumption. | ||
| That would be about 2 million people or about 0.6% of the population. | ||
| This is woefully unscientific, but I suspect if some actual polling was done, his numbers might actually be worse than a.6% approval rate. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| I think it's very low. | ||
| People do not appreciate all of the horrible things he's done. | ||
| Or, I mean, just from my anecdotal experience, people that I talk to often, I'm like, this is what I do for a living, and they're like, who's that? | ||
| A lot of people just don't know who he is. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| My other rebuttal is that Gallup released a poll last month and it found a 26% of the population has, quote, a favorable opinion of the news media and 20% are neutral. | ||
| It's a net negative for sure, but Alex's numbers are completely fabricated and they're just meant to be self-serving. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| It's a load of bullshit. | ||
| Also, you can't really... | ||
| I mean, I understand the poll being something meaningful. | ||
| As a gauge, I suppose. | ||
| Get a little temperature. | ||
| Like a meat thermometer. | ||
| Ultimately, that's like, oh, well, the country just doesn't like you right now because you kind of suck. | ||
| It's a better meat thermometer than Alex. | ||
| That's definitely true. | ||
| Going to an expensive-ass resort and people being nice to him. | ||
| That's definitely true, but, you know. | ||
| So, I will say one thing. | ||
| I have not really even fully given you a sense of how much he talks about how... | ||
| Much people loved him. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| On his vacation. | ||
| People loved him on his vacation. | ||
| It's a lot. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| To the point where it was incredibly annoying. | ||
| Yeah, I believe that. | ||
| So now we're going to get to our guest. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I feel like I want to give you some clues, but I think almost anything might give it away. | ||
| All right. | ||
| It's a person whose pronouns are kiss my ass. | ||
| Does that give it away? | ||
| K-M-A. | ||
| No, pronouns. | ||
| Pronouns are... | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Is it? | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| I feel the wheels turning. | ||
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Oh, no. | |
| Just tell me. | ||
| Just tell me. | ||
| It's Roseanne. | ||
| It's Roseanne. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Roseanne Barr. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Roseanne. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It's Roseanne. | ||
| Sitting there smoking a cigarette. | ||
| It's Roseanne. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It's Roseanne. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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What? | |
| Formerly Roseanne Arnold. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Of the seminal sitcom, Roseanne. | ||
| I have one thing to say about this. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| All right? | ||
| I appreciate that it is Roseanne in a sense because so many times we see the never-ending recurring guys show up over and over again. | ||
| It's nice that Roseanne is popping up. | ||
| As far as recurring people go, it's a woman this time at least. | ||
| There's some flavor of difference. | ||
| It's not just another asshole that's popping back up again. | ||
| It's a different asshole. | ||
| It's a different asshole. | ||
| I have a couple things I want to say before we get into any of this. | ||
| The first is that Roseanne actually has a couple of good points. | ||
| I will give her that and when they come up I will give credit where credit's due. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| She has more bad points. | ||
| She is not well. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't think she's doing great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Drinking at noon. | ||
| Smoking a cigarette in Alex's studio. | ||
| Indicative, perhaps, of where she's at. | ||
| Maybe in a little bit of a nothing left to lose kind of mode. | ||
| Yeah, boy. | ||
| I'll tell you what. | ||
| The other thing I wanted to say is that these two have no chemistry. | ||
| It is so uncomfortable and awkward. | ||
| There's pauses. | ||
| There is just, I don't know what the energy in the room is, but it is bad. | ||
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Right. | |
| It is a bad energy. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| To the point where, I've seen so many fucking Alex interviews. | ||
| And a lot of times when there's bad energy, he will just steamroll the person. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he can't. | ||
| No. | ||
| He can't steamroll Roseanne because she's really famous. | ||
| And you can't steamroll Roseanne. | ||
| Well, I think you could in this circumstance. | ||
| That's possible. | ||
| He could have done it, but I think he's worried about her leaving or never coming back. | ||
| She's a celebrity that he has access to, and so he just leaves things hanging, and he can't employ a lot of his techniques that he uses to make things interesting, and it hurts. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| I have had very few interviews of his that I've listened to where I'm like, I can't handle this. | ||
| I don't know what's going on. | ||
| This feels unsafe in a way. | ||
| Like, I don't know. | ||
| There's an energy here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's such a bummer because, I mean, I know Roseanne. | ||
| Personally? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I know what's happened. | ||
| I know who she's become. | ||
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Right. | |
| But as a comedian... | ||
| She's someone whose pronouns are kiss my ass. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| But as a comic and somebody who looked up to her when I was learning comedy, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And she had some... | ||
| At the height of her powers, I mean... | ||
| Definitely. | ||
| Alex can't steamroll her. | ||
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No. | |
| She's fucking Roseanne, you know? | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Like that kind of thing. | ||
| Definitely. | ||
| And, I mean, look, I'm going to... | ||
| Talk about how much of an idiot she is and these things are stupid that she's saying. | ||
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Totally. | |
| I'm going to make fun of her quite a bit. | ||
| But at the same time, there's no part of me that wants to take away the achievement that she's had in her career. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| She, like, is a very important part of comedy history. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Roseanne was not a show that my family let me watch. | ||
| My parents had a real prohibition against shows that showed family structures that they felt were unhealthy. | ||
| So a lot of those things like Married with Children. | ||
| I appreciate that. | ||
| Yeah, those kinds of shows were definitely off the table. | ||
| Weirdly though, stuff like Step by Step was okay. | ||
| But I guess that's because it's kind of saccharine-y. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's not as dangerous or challenging as something like Roseanne. | ||
| Those were like learn-a-lesson shows. | ||
| Every episode had a... | ||
| At the end of it, everybody is resolved and they're like, and that's why we won't steal from things. | ||
| And they're often not all that challenging of lessons. | ||
| Whereas I think that Roseanne did touch on some issues that were a bit more difficult. | ||
| If you're broke, you might need an abortion. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Step-by-step didn't deal with that type shit. | ||
| At least not that I remember. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, like, I also have not watched a ton of the show itself, so I'm not an expert in it. | ||
| But I'm aware of its legacy, and I've maybe watched a few video essays about the show, kind of because I had an impression in my head some years back of what it was, and I thought, ah, that's a stupid show. | ||
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Right. | |
| And I've been disabused of that notion. | ||
| Like, there is a lot going on in terms of the... | ||
| It's not like she was just the star of that show. | ||
| She was intimately involved with the writing and everything. | ||
| Writing, the production. | ||
| It was named Roseanne. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And I want to be very clear about that to not like... | ||
| Like, there's a lot of people who come into Alex's shit. | ||
| Like, let's say Ted Nugent. | ||
| And, like, he sucks, and I'm also going to shit on his career. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Whereas with Roseanne, nah. | ||
| There's a lot that she's done that stands, and she should be remembered for, as opposed to this, unfortunately. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| No, I mean, her stage presence, like, at the time when she started... | ||
| Breaking through. | ||
| It was in complete opposition. | ||
| She was one of those people who you could say, like, the more people hated her, the more she was on to something. | ||
| You know, that was a real thing for her. | ||
| Now, unfortunately, that is not a lasting life philosophy. | ||
| And as things change, wherein perhaps maybe when something is against you, it's actually good criticism because you've only been rewarded for fighting back against it. | ||
| It makes sense that you would continue to believe that that makes sense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This interview is bad. | ||
| Yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| There's a lot of it that's just funny, stupid, I guess, but I mean, I guess I should just probably tell you this up front. | ||
| They both cry at a certain point. | ||
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What? | |
| Yeah. | ||
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This interview is bad and yet they both cry somehow? | |
| I don't know if they would think it's bad, but objectively it's bad. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| What is happening? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Buckle in. | ||
| Hello, Roseanne. | ||
| All right. | ||
|
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The answer to 1984 is 1776. | |
| Live from Austin, Texas. | ||
| Broadcasting worldwide, it's Alex Jones. | ||
| Well, it's a special live Saturday broadcast. | ||
| It's not Alex Jones Live. | ||
| It's a great Roseanne Barr. | ||
| Completely unrelated to Alex Jones Live. | ||
| I've talked to her for years on the phone, followed her work. | ||
| She got deplatformed back when I did four years ago. | ||
| We were some of the first they went after. | ||
| And she is a Peabody Award for Television Excellence, several Humanities Awards, Emmys, several Golden Globes, Multiple People's Choice Awards, the Eleanor Roosevelt Freedom of Speech Award, a whole bunch of Nickelodeon Awards, a bunch of MTV Awards, and she's here with us to cover joy and how to not let them get us down and break our will. | ||
| You know, it's funny. | ||
| She's covering joy. | ||
| I was going to try to bring it up. | ||
| I had no idea. | ||
| I didn't talk to her before the interview. | ||
| She's agreed last week to come in. | ||
| And I was going to talk about how I've learned to not let them get me down, and the key is not letting them destroy our joy, and I swear, she just said, I want to talk about joy. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Okay, so we are going to see both of them cry on the interview that is so completely about joy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| And I should say, I believe the sincerity of Roseanne crying. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And it makes me very uncomfortable. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Alex is faking. | ||
| Yeah, well, yeah, obviously. | ||
| And you'll be able to see that quite clearly in, I don't know, an hour and a half when we get to that. | ||
| There's a bit to go over. | ||
| It's going to be a while. | ||
| So right off the gate here, I believe that the vibe is wrong. | ||
| Like I said, no chemistry between these two whatsoever. | ||
| And I think that this clip gives you a little taste of that. | ||
| I said, do you believe we're winning in the Awakening series? | ||
| You said, absolutely. | ||
| That's what I came here to talk about, so I'm going to try to shut up and give you the floor. | ||
| Great. | ||
| By the way, you look amazing in person. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Well, I feel amazing. | ||
| Well, I better take these off. | ||
| I just wanted to show I got these in New York, and they're this really cool color you can't see anywhere. | ||
| I like those glasses. | ||
| Aren't they cool? | ||
| And they kind of match my... | ||
| Whole thing that I like. | ||
| My outfit. | ||
| I've been loving your very daring comedy. | ||
| Like, just coming right out with a poison shot. | ||
| And you're getting nothing but love. | ||
| I am so overwhelmed with it. | ||
| I mean, I've never felt it before. | ||
| Maybe I was afraid to feel it, you know. | ||
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You know. | |
| There's just something that's not clicking. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She came out with a hat and sunglasses on. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That was what she was doing, her little bit of business, taking off the sunglasses. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I feel like that gives you a little kind of a taste of the discomfort, but I don't know if it fully... | ||
| I feel like you almost have to watch it to actually get the sense of, like, what's wrong with this energy. | ||
| Here's what I feel. | ||
| I've done some interviews on both sides. | ||
| I've been there. | ||
| I appreciate it when the pleasantries, the small talk, not on air. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know, when you're doing an interview for people, go ahead, start. | ||
| Get into the interview, be entertaining right out of the gate, instead of like, I bought these sunglasses. | ||
| Like, no, no, no. | ||
| It's a color that you can't see. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Because you've got to start the ball rolling. | ||
| The momentum has to move, and if you start with small talk, there's no momentum. | ||
| True. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I also think that, I don't know, like, Roseanne likes Alex quite a bit. | ||
| She's pretty clear about that. | ||
| But I do question how aware she is of his actual career. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's indicated by something she says here, and then things fall apart very fast. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| So I wanted to be here on a very powerful day and to say things that are powerfully meaningful to me. | ||
| And also to be with you, Alex, because you're a hero of mine. | ||
| And you've been telling the truth for a long time. | ||
| And when you're wrong, you admit it. | ||
| And that's something very, very rare. | ||
| You know, that is something really rare. | ||
| I've seen you say. | ||
| Yeah, I'll admit it when I'm wrong. | ||
| That makes you a human being. | ||
| I've seen you say you will admit it. | ||
| A lot of these people that are on media, they never do that. | ||
| Plus, they never say they're sorry for the people they've harmed when they are wrong. | ||
| They aren't human. | ||
| I think, are they cyborgs or robots? | ||
| I don't know, but they don't display human characteristics like empathy or caring for their fellow human. | ||
| It's like they've all bought into this thing and they are robotic. | ||
| And anyway, I wanted to be here today. | ||
| It's a powerful Jewish day. | ||
| And I wanted to speak as a Jew because everybody's always talking about the Jews and some Jews are saying they're Jews, but I can tell they're not. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| Okay, so we've got Roseanne's rebuttal to Kanye. | ||
| A couple minutes in. | ||
| Roseanne and Kanye are fighting through the InfoWars show. | ||
| This makes sense to me. | ||
| This is a sentence I knew was going to happen. | ||
| I don't think that that has anything to do with Kanye. | ||
| I think it is just fucking uncomfortable. | ||
| Right out of the gate. | ||
| Some Jews aren't Jews. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| Roseanne. | ||
| Hello. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah, Alex does not admit when he's wrong. | ||
| Also, you could hear her say, are they cyborgs or clones? | ||
| And you might think like, ha ha, you're being metaphorical. | ||
| No. | ||
| She's not. | ||
| No, she was being very literal. | ||
| Later, she will talk more about how she believes there are a bunch of clones among us. | ||
| Which is cool. | ||
| Also, I think when she's saying that these people are robotic, she's talking about other people on news networks and stuff, and that's because they're professionals. | ||
| They're doing a very different job than Alex, drunk, freaking out on air. | ||
| And yeah, if you're comparing, he appears to be a real person, man. | ||
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He's having breakdowns on air like we all do. | |
| I think that is different than the job that, let's say, an actual anchor is doing. | ||
| If you want to have a conversation... | ||
| Boy, they do look robotic compared to Yelly McCryer. | ||
| Yeah, if you want to have a conversation that maybe they're a little too robotic in comparison... | ||
| Fine, but I think maybe Alex might be too much in comparison to that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'll just throw that out there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe there's a balancing act. | ||
| I would presume that, like, Anderson Cooper or Jake Tapper off-air aren't... | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| They're bad examples, because they have a bit of personality. | ||
| No, they walk over into their closet, somebody turns their switch off, and then they close the door. | ||
| And then they're like, hey, it's 7 o 'clock, did you wake up Cooper by yet? | ||
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Oh, no. | |
| And then they open the door and... | ||
| Oh, no, his battery is ruined. | ||
| Gotta clone him. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, I don't even know how to... | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And today is Shabbat, so that means Satan does not exist today because he cannot exist on a holy day. | ||
| He can't live anywhere in holy space. | ||
| So that means that our prayers go straight to God today. | ||
| He can't interfere or... | ||
| F with them or nothing else. | ||
| And I'm here to pray with Alex today because I've seen Alex pray on this show and I believe his prayers. | ||
| I believe he is a soul, has a living soul. | ||
| And people who have living souls watch Alex and they are touched by his prayers as was I. And I'm somebody who prays too. | ||
| I just have a talk show and I ask people on that talk show surrounded by 28 lawyers who are trying to prevent me from doing it. | ||
| But I ask people to pray to send. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| See what I'm saying? | ||
| See what I'm saying? | ||
| I am now uncomfortable. | ||
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See? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what happens. | ||
| I don't know where to begin. | ||
| Right. | ||
| 28 lawyers were trying to get you to stop praying with guests. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So Satan... | ||
| God and Satan have a deal where every seventh time the earth spins, Satan's gotta go. | ||
| That's like putting the tie on the door at college. | ||
| Satan's like, whoa, somebody's fucking today. | ||
| I guess I can't be in there. | ||
| Satan? | ||
| Hit the showers. | ||
| Hit the showers, buddy. | ||
| You're sleeping on somebody's couch tonight. | ||
| You take the day off because prayers are coming through. | ||
| You can't F with these now. | ||
| On every other day, though, Satan's like jumping out, grabbing prayers. | ||
| Like, oh, I got this one. | ||
| But he's not 100% effective. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That's why you still got to pray, even on off days. | ||
| You never know if it's going to work. | ||
| You never know. | ||
| I mean, you would think you should save him up. | ||
| Even the best cornerback isn't going to be able to block every pass. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| You know. | ||
| No, you're on Revis. | ||
| You're still completing about 15%. | ||
| Yeah, so I'm uncomfortable. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| So then Roseanne prays. | ||
| Sure! | ||
| I want to pray with you today, Alex. | ||
| I came here because I want people to pray with us that we can overcome all machinery that has ties to the satanic lower world of evil, that we break all those ties, all those satanic vows that people have taken. | ||
| May they be cut today. | ||
| May they not exist tomorrow. | ||
| Those are my vows. | ||
| You can't take them. | ||
| May the souls of the human beings who care for other human beings and for this country and what it stands for, which is a melting pot of individual rights, not group rights where people are punished for things they didn't do, but for justice and equality, including women like me. | ||
| To have the power to speak freely and to own property and to work it with the sweat of their brow. | ||
| What? | ||
| That's beautiful. | ||
| Please pray. | ||
| And to not be on their knees to a big elitist group who think of us as their slaves or their prey. | ||
| May that end today. | ||
| And I ask you, Alex, to say amen with me. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| Continue the prayer, Alex. | ||
| She said with him. | ||
| I'm turning it over to you now because I know you can do it. | ||
| I know that no matter what group we come from or what our backgrounds are, there is a real God that created the universe and consciousness. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| So, yeah, she finishes the prayer, and then she's like... | ||
| Passing the ball. | ||
| Now, Alex, you take a prayer. | ||
| Let's all pray. | ||
| You lead the congregation. | ||
| Can you do that? | ||
| I feel like you can't do that. | ||
| It's like a dance battle, and she's done the whoop. | ||
| Right, but I mean, I feel like they're praying to different gods. | ||
| You can't continue the prayer to a different god. | ||
| That's not how it works. | ||
| Gods don't appreciate the relay race of heaven. | ||
| I think that, I mean, look, I don't fully understand from listening to this entire interview her exact relationship with Judaism, but I believe that she is also cool with Alex's God. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| So I think... | ||
| There's something going on. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure. | ||
| I'm just saying, this is outside of any organized religion. | ||
| I don't think Alex believes in any organized religion. | ||
| Whatever god Alex is praying to, I don't think has any relationship to anyone else's. | ||
| That's my point. | ||
| That's fair enough. | ||
| By that standard, he's the only one who can pray to that god. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You shouldn't pass off that prayer. | ||
| That might be the devil. | ||
| So Alex, I don't think, picked up on that, though, that the prayer was being handed off, even though she was very explicit about it. | ||
| She said he thinks he can do it. | ||
| He tries a little bit, and it seems like he's arguing with God as opposed to praying. | ||
| See, there we go! | ||
| I'm turning it over to you now, because I know you can do it. | ||
| I know that no matter what group we come from or what our backgrounds are, there is a real God that created the universe and consciousness. | ||
| And if we think about the fact that what would there be if there was nothingness? | ||
| No planets, no universe, no God, no humans, no nothing. | ||
| In all of eternity, in all time, how could there be nothing? | ||
| And then you ask the question, what could bring something out of nothing? | ||
| That is God. | ||
| And so I know that being humble before God is essential and realizing that we are really not God, but an expression of God's consciousness. | ||
| And will, and the fact that God wants to be able to commune with us forever, and God was basically lonely, so made creatures that have free will. | ||
| But that's a gamble, because God loves us so much, and God knows some of us, because we're given free will, will join with things that are not good, that are bad. | ||
| And so if God did anything wrong, and I'm not saying God did, it's the fact that God gave us freedom to do bad things. | ||
| The Satanists always say, well, God allows all this to go on. | ||
| Your God does this. | ||
| No, God gave us freedom. | ||
| consciousness and creation. | ||
| So in front of the heavenly father of the universe and all space and time and all dimensions that created this for us to experience incredible enlightenment and be able to interface with God. | ||
| I just thank God for this moment. | ||
| We're here together. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| Is that what I was? | ||
| Well, that's what he said after she said pray. | ||
| I'm going to throw this out there. | ||
| I mean, again, I'm not familiar with all religions, but I would say that most religions would be pretty pissed off if you said their God created life just because God was lonely. | ||
| He was lonely. | ||
| He was alone. | ||
| And? | ||
| And then he, of course, compelled your infinite worship and enforces a punishment that will last infinitely because he was lonely one time. | ||
| He might have fucked up by giving us free will, but he didn't. | ||
| I might have, but he didn't. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Very strange. | ||
| What a weird God. | ||
| So anyway, Roseanne has a rejoinder. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| Good rejoinder. | ||
| And now a new prayer. | ||
| What? | ||
| We're doing back-to-backs? | ||
| That all those who do have the spark of a soul in them in a... | ||
| In the most high positions of power will feel that spark grow and they will remove themselves just simply by resigning for the sins they've committed against the children of this world. | ||
| May they just grow enough soul to... | ||
| Kindly remove themselves and may God guide a person of wisdom and ethics and morality to replace them. | ||
| May that happen immediately. | ||
| I was also going to talk about mind control and how... | ||
| I also want to talk about mind control. | ||
| You can see why I was saying I don't feel safe listening to this. | ||
| I don't know where anything is going. | ||
| Sentences go in all kinds of directions. | ||
| I feel untethered. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I feel like I'm driving, I'm in the passenger seat of a car with somebody who's wearing a blindfold and there's a team of people trying to hit the car with their own cars. | ||
| And occasionally it hits. | ||
| You know there's gonna be an accident. | ||
| There's gonna be an accident. | ||
| Probably more than one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Yep. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| And she's drunk. | ||
| Yeah, oh, she's definitely drunk. | ||
| That's, yeah, yeah, that was out of the question. | ||
| Once you put the blindfold on, you were probably drunk first. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So she wants to talk mind control. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And here's where that goes. | ||
| I also want to talk about mind control that we have all been under in our country and we continue to be under, which I'm talking about in my act. | ||
| Like, why are people just lining up to do... | ||
| When I see how they're doing, like people with these German accents telling us to take these shots and they're... | ||
| They're, you know, using the Jewish people basically over there in Israel as the lab rats to do it on, and they're lining up to do it. | ||
| I know that this is the end of time. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know, I know that this is the end. | ||
| It's so surreal. | ||
| I mean, Yetanyahu, I'm not even against, I'm not attacking him. | ||
| He says, oh, Israel's so lucky. | ||
| We've got rid of the laws. | ||
| Now we can test on our people any drugs and find out what they do. | ||
| And then it's weirdos with German accents. | ||
| Like Legrand and, I can't even say his name, Klaus Schwab. | ||
| He's going to take over your body. | ||
| He's going to control you. | ||
| I mean, it's overtly satanic. | ||
| It is overtly satanic. | ||
| And it's like our task, if we have any intelligence or soul, to see it. | ||
| So, uh, Alex almost forgot the name of his season's big villain. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Klaus Schwab doesn't have a German accent, but I guess that Alex mostly knows how Schwab speaks from his own impression of him, so I can understand how Alex would get confused. | ||
| I suppose? | ||
| Uh, Schwab is Swiss. | ||
| He was born in Germany, but his parents fled to Switzerland during the Holocaust. | ||
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| They did return to Germany after the war, but Schwab would go back to Switzerland during his school years. | ||
| I'm guessing LeGrand is a reference to Roger LeGrand, who is an immunologist at the Vaccine Research Institute in France. | ||
| I was going to say, famous last name for German is LeGrand. | ||
| He doesn't speak with a French or German accent at all. | ||
| It's all German accents to Alex and Roseanne, though, because they're dumb and reductive. | ||
| People who speak funny in a European way, they're suspicious and probably German and thus secretly Nazis and practicing Satanism. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm not sure what Alex is talking about in terms of a new law allowing Israel to test experimental medicines on civilians, but I'm sure it would be helpful if he could provide a source. | ||
| I think that this is just the way that he's rewritten the story of Israel being a country that was very early to adopt COVID vaccines, which Alex has categorized as being a gigantic medical experiment, and so that's now this. | ||
| Yeah, whenever you make the vaccine a medical, let's say, race-specific bioweapon, and Israel happens to be the country with the highest adoption rate, I mean, it's hard not to make a one-to-one jump there. | ||
| Your narrative is built. | ||
| Yeah, however, because Alex has to love far-right dictators, he can't really criticize Netanyahu too hard. | ||
| Well. | ||
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You know, so it's a weird world. | |
| He runs the risk of Ye showing back up with his bottle of Yoo-Hoo and... | ||
| You don't want that. | ||
| You don't want that. | ||
| So, I know from listening to a ton of Alex that one thing that he does all the time is that when he has nowhere to go in an interview, or he has to, like, fucking stall, he asks... | ||
| A genre of questions. | ||
| And it's like, how would you describe the world we're in right now? | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| How would you describe this time? | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Who's winning? | ||
| The globalists or the good guys? | ||
| Those kind of questions are the fallbacks when he's like, I don't know what I'm doing here. | ||
| I would call those, I'm going to take a bite of sandwich questions. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| So he asks about Team Humanity versus Team Demon. | ||
| Can you speak to the Great Awakening? | ||
| How do you think Team Humanity, Team Freedom versus Team Demon is doing right now? | ||
| Well, I think they can't fight us because one thing they don't know nothing about is the human soul and the human spirit, so they don't even know how to fight it. | ||
| That's the only thing they would know about. | ||
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Like they wouldn't know about how to drive a car. | |
| They're just trying to kill everybody or kill as many people as they can. | ||
| They don't like thinkers. | ||
| They're trying to get rid of all the thinkers, especially thinkers like you and me, Alex, because we talk to people and they don't like communicators neither or people who can receive information. | ||
| They like people who can't receive information, just people who can take stuff in through their eyes, memes and stuff when they look. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| People who just take in things in memes? | ||
| Like Alex, who constantly is just reporting on memes and headlines? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm such a fan of how many criticisms that she's making of the quote-unquote media that are direct. | ||
| One-to-one things that Alex does on his show if she watched it, which she doesn't. | ||
| No. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| Everybody kind of likes the vibe of Alex. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| What they think he is. | ||
| In my mind, Alex, you are fighting against the bad guys. | ||
| And if I listen to your show, I would realize that you are the bad guys that I am actively fighting against. | ||
| Oh no, you're not a thinker. | ||
| You're stupid and angry. | ||
| Maybe you're... | ||
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That specific gift is convincing people of something it's not. | |
| I mean, think about even the beginning of this podcast. | ||
| I even had a bit of a perception of Alex that very clearly was eroded by listening to him. | ||
| Before you actually watch his show, which most people don't do because it's long, insufferable, and boring. | ||
| Most people don't do that, and they have this idea of him in your head. | ||
| He's like this pioneering voice of righteousness and he criticizes both sides and he's been wrong about some things but he's right about more. | ||
| Fraudulent perceptions are reinforced by idiots like Rogan and all these folks who don't watch his show either. | ||
| I understand why she could have that perception, but yeah, it's kind of sad. | ||
| Yeah, no, somehow he adopted the personality of a pirate radio underground DJ kind of guy. | ||
| Yeah, because he was that early on in his career. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| And now it's all over. | ||
| And the other thing, too, that I would note is that... | ||
| I think that Roseanne doesn't watch his show, but, like, she would watch QAnon shows. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She's farther than Alex in some ways. | ||
| I think that you would find Alex boring in some other sort of standards. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| So, you know, she has some interesting thoughts about writing. | ||
| I think I actually agree with her a little bit, but then I also don't. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Writing. | ||
| Let's talk about writing for a minute. | ||
| It is about writing because when you deprogram yourself, as per Kathy O 'Brien in her book, Time to Heal. | ||
| And her husband was a CIA guy who was into mind sciences, and he taught her that when the act of writing out an experience makes your mind engage, and you begin to heal. | ||
| And that's why they outlawed writing in the schools. | ||
| That's how they're going to be programmers, to write it down. | ||
| In the schools now, it's all... | ||
| That's when they debrief somebody. | ||
| They outlawed writing in schools? | ||
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Don't read it. | |
| Because that gets into the deeper... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Don't read it through the eyes, just write it, because writing engages part of your brain that trigger critical thinking. | ||
| And this is key, so exactly, listening and writing. | ||
| And that's why people ask, why do I put up text? | ||
| I tell the crew, I don't want to be on screen. | ||
| Everything I say, pull up text, because that engages the brain. | ||
| And I'm using mind science there. | ||
| I didn't get trained at some university. | ||
| I know that. | ||
| So we're like, if we tell you something, we show you the clip for yourself. | ||
| Or we show you an article. | ||
| Or we show you a definition. | ||
| We want you to go look at that to trigger your brain. | ||
| Alex actually flashes headlines up on the screen for the opposite reason. | ||
| It's not to engage the audience's critical thinking, it's to pacify it. | ||
| He never shows anything on screen long enough for a viewer to actually read what he's showing, but just long enough that he can probably tell that it's a headline that appears to confirm whatever Alex is saying. | ||
| These articles are also almost always from Infowars.com, where Alex has critical editorial control over all the headlines that appear on articles, even when they're reposted from other media outlets. | ||
| So he's essentially flashing up props. | ||
| He's prepared to convince the audience that what he's saying is something that's based on grounded reality when it's just nothing. | ||
| It's a parlor trick, but it does exploit an element of brain science in that it's designed to make sure that any doubts viewers have will be quieted by the... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Also not good as a sign that Roseanne's bringing up Kathy O'Brien, who's not a good source on anything. | |
| O 'Brien wrote a book in 1995 called Transformation of America, where she claimed that she was forced into being a part of various government mind control programs like MKUltra and Project Monarch. | ||
| She has zero evidence of any of her claims, which have evolved over the years to be much more extravagant, as we pretty regularly see with people who show up in places like Project Camelot. | ||
| So odd. | ||
| I don't give her claims a whole lot of credibility, and from my estimation, they're largely a combination of popular conspiracy theory, lore, and remnants of the satanic past. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I would suggest people try. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then quit, because it's really hard. | ||
| But, I mean, if you're not trying to write a book, journaling as a habit of introspection is really useful. | ||
| Yeah, that's a great idea. | ||
| It has nothing to do with why Alex Flash's text on screen, though. | ||
| That's pretty ridiculous. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| So, Roseanne, like I said, she does believe that there's clones. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And robots. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And what have you. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And used to, I'd shake 20 hands, I'd get one FU for every 20. I got nothing but love. | ||
| And again, people say, I'm not saying, oh, I'm so popular. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| I'm this demonized person, and the system is so hated and distrusted now that people go automatically, well, this guy must be good. | ||
| That says how weak the power structure is. | ||
| It absolutely does, but they forget, like, the power structure, this big pyramid is all about pyramids. | ||
| Well, this pyramid that they constructed, the money people, I'm talking about the people who own the world, they forgot that the big old base... | ||
| That holds them up, you know, has to be composed of living human beings. | ||
| I guess they're going to replace them with cyborgs or robots or something. | ||
| Sooner or later. | ||
| Or maybe just clones of people who really don't have any... | ||
| Ties to each other who can't do anything but attack or work. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Is that what they're after? | ||
| No, I totally agree. | ||
| That's what they want. | ||
| That's the Nazis' dream. | ||
| And they brought the Nazis over. | ||
| The Nazis' dream was clones? | ||
| They took over our government. | ||
| Look, everybody... | ||
| That's what I want everybody to know. | ||
| Every penny on this earth is accounted for, and it all goes back to the Bank of International Settlements. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| So I guess Alex agrees that the globalists want to replace people with clones. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I didn't realize that. | ||
| So the Bank of International Settlements is a big boogeyman of conspiracy theory shit, which makes sense. | ||
| It's a gathering forum for central banks, and the conspiracy theorists already have built in hate for central banks, so their forum and the bank of the central banks must be even more evil. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Put on the spot, not one of these people could name a single figure involved in the BIS. | ||
| They couldn't explain what the bank actually does, nor describe its functions. | ||
| It's just a shadowy, mysterious entity that supposedly controls everything and can account for every penny in the world, which is nonsense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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There are a lot of very valid criticisms of the bank, though, like many that have been made about their involvement in transfers of wealth from Czechoslovakia to Nazi Germany during World War II. | |
| But the shit that comes out of folks like Alex and Roseanne is just meaningless meme talking points. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Or BOSH. | |
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I want to work more British slang into it. | ||
| I think British slang is... | ||
| Maybe that's the next season of our podcast. | ||
| It's just better. | ||
| Gotta work in some of that. | ||
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Bosh. | |
| I mean, I'm telling you, I prefer... | ||
| I'm trying to go anachronistic. | ||
| That's what I want. | ||
| I want all of my slang to be from, like, fucking 1920s. | ||
| I'm gonna start saying groovy all the time, too. | ||
| That's from the 70s. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| I'm gonna try and get... | ||
| I'm gonna try and work in some fucking... | ||
| I hate your choices, though. | ||
| Canterbury Tales shit. | ||
| I don't trust you to make choices, though, because you still text me cool beans and stuff. | ||
| Yeah, I do. | ||
| I love cool beans. | ||
| I'm never gonna get rid of cool beans. | ||
| Groovy is way too pedestrian. | ||
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Sure. | |
| That's too well known. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I'm going to go with Toph. | ||
| I'm going to toss around a Toph all the time. | ||
| What's that one for? | ||
| That's, you know, whenever people are kind of an asshole. | ||
| Bosh. | ||
| Can't be beat. | ||
| Can't be beat. | ||
| So anyway, we're clones. | ||
| We're going to be clones. | ||
| Let me pitch you on this. | ||
| We need clones for... | ||
| A reality show where you drop 400 clones in different places around the United States. | ||
| They all have a goal. | ||
| The clone zone. | ||
| To meet up, and only one of them can become the real person at the end of it. | ||
| So they become the Pinocchio show. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I'm going to call it Real Life Highlander. | ||
| The Pinocchio show in the clone zone. | ||
| Everybody gets swords. | ||
| I'm telling you, I think Highlander only works if we have clones. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Okay, I'll buy it. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I'd like to see a pilot at least. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| How do you record a pilot? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| We'll clone them. | ||
| We'll give them swords. | ||
| But then you get canceled. | ||
| We'll clone the first episode where there's a big centerpiece where two of them fight and then they're like, ah, we can't produce anymore. | ||
| What do I do with 399 clones and one dead clone? | ||
| Look, that's on you, man. | ||
| That's your business. | ||
| Network's not interested. | ||
| Go talk to Netflix, I don't know. | ||
| Alright, okay. | ||
| So, I also think that if there were these, like, evil money people who control the world, there is a zero chance that they would forget that their power relies on the bottom of the pyramid. | ||
| Yeah, none. | ||
| None. | ||
| So dumb. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh no, they forgot that. | ||
| Most of their time would be spent split between stealing from the bottom and placating the bottom so they can continue stealing from the bottom. | ||
| If there were a, like, These people who are behind the scenes, who control the entire world, every single thing they would do would be in service of maintaining the status quo. | ||
| There would be never any instinct of, oh, we've got to rock the boat, oh, we've got to kill off the population. | ||
| Why would they do any of that shit? | ||
| Why would they do false flags? | ||
| Right. | ||
| It would be all about stability and keeping things in order because otherwise they can't run the world anymore. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or whatever. | ||
| That's the flaw of a lot of these conspiracy theories, I find. | ||
| All of them have the flaw of like... | ||
| Their motives are fucked. | ||
| Yeah, and it's just like that's not how the systems actually function, you know? | ||
| If you have a system like that, that becomes stagnant and then it falters from the inside and eventually crumbles. | ||
| Like, none of the things that he's described are at all sustainable. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's very similar to how Alex tells the lie about his security guard hearing about how great he is on vacation, and then that erodes to the, you know, he can't have that anymore. | ||
| I'm mobbed. | ||
| He gets bored. | ||
| I'm mobbed. | ||
| It has turned into something bigger. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, what about John the Revelator? | ||
| Didn't expect him to pop up after, but. | ||
| Oh, he's here. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| What do you make of John the Revelator, if you really read Revelation, it describes everything perfectly. | ||
| What was he jacked into? | ||
| What do you mean, jacked into? | ||
| I mean, John the Revelator in the book of Revelation. | ||
| Well, you should believe God. | ||
| What's your view of Christianity and things that Jesus taught and all that? | ||
| Well, I know everything about that, too. | ||
| And I think that here's what I think the times we're living in. | ||
| I'm just going to put it like this. | ||
| Well, it says in our holy books 2,000 years ago, it totally describes the times we're living in now. | ||
| It also foretells a computer and an age of instant information and intelligence and data that can't be denied and that that would be the hallmark of this age and that I believe we are living in. | ||
| And that is also called the age of messianic thought. | ||
| So I know that some people do call him John the Revelator, but I think that the author of Revelations is more commonly known as John of Patmos. | ||
| That's what I've always known him as. | ||
| I can't prove it, but I have a strong suspicion that Alex calls him that because of the In Excess song that he uses as a bumper coming out of commercials. | ||
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John Revelator, put him in an escalator. | |
| Alright. | ||
| I would go with The Revelator. | ||
| Dan the Revelator? | ||
| Yeah, Dan the Revelator. | ||
| Deltron 3030. | ||
| Deltron 3030 and Dan the Revelator. | ||
| That's what I would have gone with. | ||
| It's 3030. | ||
| I want y 'all to meet Deltron Zero and John the Revelator. | ||
| Yeah, you think your John the Revelator's cool because he was 2,000 years ahead. | ||
| Buddy, we're in 3030. | ||
| You ain't got shit on us. | ||
| Also, the Bible didn't predict computers. | ||
| No! | ||
| This is just a weird interpretation that people have of Daniel 12.4. | ||
| It says, quote, And so that's been turned into by some prophecy of the coming of computers. | ||
| You know, whenever your prophecy is vague enough and vast enough to incorporate literally anything anyone might say 2,000 years ago, it's a pretty good prophecy. | ||
| Well, I mean, take a little bit of a step back, and when the mail service was... | ||
| Information could travel, it increases. | ||
| Saying that shit is the same thing as saying that traffic lights are the greatest form of artificial... | ||
| You can't argue with it. | ||
| Can't argue with it. | ||
| Can't argue. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Rogan said it once. | ||
| For obvious reasons. | ||
| So, Roseanne has a really interesting perspective, and I think it's antithetical to what Alex wants people to think. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And I think that's an interesting dynamic that never actually comes to pass on this show, but she believes that Satan's already lost, and that the best thing that people can do is nothing. | ||
| Well, I mean, the book says that he's already lost and that everything that will happen is inevitable and there's nothing you can do to stop it. | ||
| So it would make sense to have that. | ||
| But her perspective is very different than Alex's. | ||
| Like, they can both think that the devil is gonna lose. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| But she's like, there's nothing you can really do about it. | ||
| Yeah, because there's nothing you can really do about it. | ||
| Alex doesn't want people to think that because he needs them to give him money. | ||
| Right, but there's nothing you can really do about it. | ||
| Otherwise, you don't believe the book. | ||
| There's only two ways for the book to work. | ||
| Either there's nothing you can do about it, or you don't believe in the book. | ||
| Well, Alex doesn't... | ||
| He needs money. | ||
| Oh, well, that's fair. | ||
| Anyway, Roseanne thinks the devil's already lost. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I agree. | ||
| All this control is an attempt for Satan to regain what he lost. | ||
| But he's already... | ||
| I just want people to know, he has already been defeated, and God has already won. | ||
| It's just you have to pick your side now. | ||
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What? | |
| This is all about picking the right side. | ||
| It's all about you. | ||
| If you have a soul, you have to pick your side. | ||
| That's what it's all about. | ||
| It gets weird. | ||
| And people, they've been mind screwed into picking the wrong side and tricked because the Satan is a trickster. | ||
| And, you know, that's why people are lining up to take a shot that, you know. | ||
| Like I'm talking about, what it does to people. | ||
| And then the news comes on and says, oh, well, they don't know why that guy died of a heart attack at age 18. I mean, come on. | ||
| You've got to see what's right in front of your face. | ||
| And you have to have the ability, the God-given ability to look at fact and data. | ||
| What if you were to be confronted with fact and data that showed that you're wrong? | ||
| Right, Roseanne? | ||
| Because facts and data are not in her favor. | ||
| The problem I have with this stuff... | ||
| Is when they use it, it's because after the fact, they've realized that all the stuff that they believe is stupid. | ||
| And so they have to then be like, oh, you see, but the reason that it's not stupid is because I focus on facts and data, and you don't. | ||
| I have empirical evidence, like an 18-year-old had a heart attack, which has never happened before, which is neither fact nor data. | ||
| Yeah, anecdotes are fact and data to them, and that has an emotional appeal, and people are drawn towards that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's, you know, the same sort of... | ||
| Thing that people fall into a lot. | ||
| I do my own research as a character that people take on as opposed to a practice that they engage in. | ||
| And that's the same thing with Alex and Roseanne calling themselves thinkers. | ||
| No, you're not. | ||
| It's a character you're playing. | ||
| Look at what's in front of your face. | ||
| Excuse me. | ||
| No. | ||
| Roseanne and Alex. | ||
| Please take away those giant weird wallpaper things that you hold directly in front of your face all the time. | ||
| Oh, those are shades. | ||
| Move them out of the way. | ||
| Look at all the stuff out there. | ||
| Look at what's in front of your face now that you don't have a giant wallpaper in front of you. | ||
| Ooh, it's a cocktail. | ||
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Yay! | |
| Now I can deal with it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, Roseanne is blown away by something that Alex was talking about earlier on the show. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And I am... | ||
| That's why I'm so... | ||
| Blown away today while I was watching your last segment about the data you have compiled about the red states and what vaccine was sent where. | ||
| This is a campaign of cruelty and death, and they did it on purpose. | ||
| They did it on purpose to, you know, just like the Nazis did. | ||
| They study and they decided what demographic didn't suit them because that demographic doesn't buy their bullshit. | ||
| So, there have been two big presentations that Alex has put out about the differences between red states and blue states as it relates to COVID, and they're total bullshit. | ||
| This isn't even new stuff on Alex's show. | ||
| This has been a while. | ||
| The first has to do with the higher instances of vaccine side effects, as measured by VAERS data. | ||
| This is possibly a reflection that people in red states have more vaccine side effects, which must mean that the globalists sent more deadly vaccines to kill off their ideological enemies. | ||
| Or... | ||
| Another far more likely explanation is that these people in these states are more likely to be enamored with bullshit COVID vaccine conspiracies and self-report all kinds of side effects to VAERS, which would skew the data in the direction of showing more suspicious. | ||
| side effects in red states when it actually reflects over-reporting of possibly real, possibly imagined side effects. | ||
| It's meaningless. | ||
| Yeah, it would be a more accurate map to be like, here's what people believe in these places, and this is why the VAERS data is different. | ||
| And the way the public abuse of the understanding of the VAERS system has been carried out by these anti-vax fucks. | ||
| And it's a self-perpetuating cycle. | ||
| It's essentially ruined the ability. | ||
| I don't actually know if it has, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's ruined the ability of VAERS to be used for what it's for. | ||
| is to pick up signal information that can then be scrutinized further. | ||
| I think that the way that people use it is criminal. | ||
| It's probably not completely useless, but they have definitely made it less useful. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex cover in this respect is higher rates of excess deaths in red states, which of course is evidence that the globalists are sending poisoned vaccines to these states to kill off their ideological enemies. | ||
| Or another far more likely explanation is that people in these states were less likely It's like a self-perpetuating cycle. | ||
| Yeah, or people in predominantly Democrat-leaning areas were more likely to engage in social distancing and masking, and that could attribute to the difference. | ||
| These are actually two data points that are threatening to COVID conspiracy narratives, but with a little simple recontextualization and emotional storytelling, Alex and his ilk are able to twist them into being points that support his conclusion. | ||
| They swift-boated him! | ||
| This is using numbers as a prop to support your predetermined conclusion, which is not what thinkers do. | ||
| I would think that they'd explore this a little more deeply, but of course they're not. | ||
| No, I mean, if I gave them more credit for creativity, I would say that they're utilizing that kind of... | ||
| Go for their strengths kind of thing that Rove popularized. | ||
| Alex hates that guy. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Don't fight them where they're weak. | ||
| Take away their strength. | ||
| And then you win all over the place, you know? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So the data points that would be most obviously damaging, you're like, aha, but those are the ones that make me righter. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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| So remember when Roseanne said that some Jews aren't Jews? | ||
| She did say that. | ||
| That was a little bit uncomfortable. | ||
| It was. | ||
| And she touches on it a little bit more. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| You know, then we have to go real deep into what the Bible says about what happened in Egypt, which I want to talk about, too. | ||
| When these people who profess themselves to be Jews but are actually anti-Jews, I really want to talk about that, too. | ||
| You got the floor. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Tell us. | ||
| Well, when Moses was leading the children of Israel, according to Exodus, when he was taking them out, God told him, don't take out this certain class of people that served Pharaoh. | ||
| They were the black magicians and lawyers and servants. | ||
| They were the lawyer class, the judges and such. | ||
| They were the servant class, as we call them, like, I guess, politicians like we have right now. | ||
| And they were Jewish. | ||
| The managerial class for the elite. | ||
| Yes, and there's a name that God gave them, and it was Arab Rav, which means good teachers of bad information. | ||
| When you break it down, that's my... | ||
| That's perfectly said. | ||
| They're smart, they're good teachers, but they teach bad. | ||
| That's my interpretation. | ||
| I don't want to touch on any of that stuff because I don't know what she's talking about. | ||
| Nope, no clue. | ||
| But it's interesting that Roseanne says that this is just her interpretation that these folks are called, quote, good teachers of bad information. | ||
| Because if you Google that specific phrase, there is one result. | ||
| Oh, now I'm not happy. | ||
| That is a boring conspiracy vlog on Bitchute, which has a bunch of comments, one including that phrase, from an account named The Only Roseanne Bond. | ||
| This may or may not actually be her, but it's interesting that the only place the term comes up in a search is a comment section from an account that purports to be her. | ||
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That is the funniest. | |
| Of all, like, that's the funniest cross-reference that you could possibly have. | ||
| That's all I got. | ||
| That's just the funniest possible way to prove that that is a Rose Ambar. | ||
| Like, the other day, the other day, Luka Doncic was, he was on, he was online, he's a gamer, right? | ||
| So he's playing some game, and some dude is interacting with him, and he's like, hey, do you play basketball? | ||
| And Luka Doncic is like, yeah. | ||
| For who? | ||
| Do you guys play in a rec league or whatever? | ||
| And he's like, Dallas Mavericks. | ||
| They're like, what? | ||
| I think that account might be her. | ||
| Yeah, that does seem like her. | ||
| They've posted no videos. | ||
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Nope. | |
| It's a three-year-old account, though, named The Only Roseanne Barr. | ||
| Would have been probably the time where she was looking for other accounts to make since she couldn't use ones that she already had. | ||
| Yeah, that might have been right around the time that she got kicked off Twitter for calling Valerie Jarrett a monkey. | ||
| It does seem very similar. | ||
| It matches up. | ||
| Alex starts talking about how the globalists are aliens. | ||
| And that's what the globalists can't help. | ||
| Everything they do hurts people. | ||
| Everything they teach is bad. | ||
| They know the knowledge. | ||
| They know how to empower people. | ||
| Why would you want to hurt people unless an alien force, Satan, wants to hurt us because we're made in the image of God? | ||
| He's jealous of us. | ||
| Bingo. | ||
| Jealous. | ||
| I wrote this book called Rose Anarchy and, you know, of course nobody buy it even though I went on Oprah. | ||
| And sucked her ass. | ||
| They had only sold 5,000 copies. | ||
| Well, we'll sell 50,000 copies. | ||
| Well, anyways, thanks, Alex. | ||
| And you don't have to suck ass. | ||
| That's a weird, weird way to... | ||
| You know, say that I went on Oprah or whatever. | ||
| I went on Oprah and sucked a little ass! | ||
| That's bad. | ||
| She sold 5,000 copies of a book? | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| She did not have access to that weird machine of right-wing people who just buy up loads of books and then put them in second-hand stores. | ||
| You know, I'm just throwing this out there. | ||
| As a person... | ||
| If I were someone like Roseanne, who was like the queen of the world, basically... | ||
| At a certain point in time. | ||
| Yes, truly. | ||
| And then I ended up writing a book. | ||
| That sold 5,000 copies. | ||
| I might swing to the right, too. | ||
| Ah, yeah. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| I might be like, this career is not working out. | ||
| That shit is easy over there. | ||
| Gotta restart somewhere. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The Great Reset. | ||
| I would prefer... | ||
| I don't understand why so many times when Alex is describing God, the creator of the universe, he describes to them the emotional abilities of an asshole. | ||
| It's petty shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, God's lonely. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What? | ||
| Hell exists? | ||
| Because God was like, oh man, I'm bored. | ||
| Oh man, I'm jealous of Satan, so I'm gonna do that. | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| Yeah, I think it again speaks to his lack of creativity or ability to look outside of himself. | ||
| Yeah, God is just me, but he's more powerful. | ||
| Yeah, so Roseanne wrote this book, Roseanarchy, which is a fine portmanteau. | ||
| It's not bad. | ||
| But there's apparently a part in it that I did not expect to hear. | ||
| I wrote that book to help deprogram kids from the Harry Potter bullshit. | ||
| Did you? | ||
| But anyways, at the end, I wrote this chapter called The End, wherein I kill Satan. | ||
| And I tell you how to do it. | ||
| And I'll just give you that at the end, how you do it is when you feel empathy. | ||
| He can't be there because he hates that. | ||
| That's what Christ did. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Bingo, bingo, bingo. | ||
| Explain it. | ||
| I'm interrupting. | ||
| Explain it. | ||
| No, you explain it. | ||
| No, you don't. | ||
| Shut up. | ||
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So she killed the devil. | |
| She killed the devil. | ||
| I mean, that was, honestly, that was really nice of her because now I don't need to read the book. | ||
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No wonder she only sold 5,000 copies. | |
| Huh. | ||
| Just giving the end away. | ||
| If only more people had got that, the devil would be even more dead. | ||
| Are you telling me that Roseanarchy is actually about deprogramming kids off of Harry Potter? | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Of all the things that I would expect the title Rose Anarchy to lead to, that was not one of them. | ||
| What about Killing the Devil? | ||
| See, more apt, at least under Rose Anarchy, as opposed to like, hey, listen, this Harry Potter kid, you gotta keep your eye out for him. | ||
| I don't think either really tracked from the title. | ||
| No, that's fair. | ||
| I would have thought it would be a political system devoid of leaders, maybe what she's describing. | ||
| Either that or a political system with her as the leader. | ||
| The only leader of all political systems with no leadership is Roseanne. | ||
| This would not be anarchistic then, right? | ||
| No, it would be Roseanne-archistic. | ||
| Anyway, the thought, I guess, of deprogramming kids from Harry Potter leads Alex into a kind of thought process about... | ||
| How are we gonna reach the lost? | ||
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Okay. | |
| And there is an interesting vibe that Roseanne has that is kind of like, fuck them. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| I'll take that. | ||
| She has kind of a mentality of like, anybody who's not awake... | ||
| It doesn't need to be, and they shouldn't be. | ||
| Who gives a shit? | ||
| I appreciate that! | ||
| I appreciate that! | ||
| Well, yeah, because it belies a lack of evangelism, which I think is one of the more annoying parts of people like Alex, this need to force their own bizarre worldview on other people. | ||
| Whereas Roseanne is kind of like, I'm just going to have this drink over here and believe nonsense. | ||
| I don't need to evangelize to you. | ||
| You don't need to believe the thing that I believe or whatever. | ||
| I believe abortion is evil, but you know what? | ||
| Go for it. | ||
| I'm going to have a cocktail. | ||
| Whee! | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| But Alex wants to know, how do you reach out to these people? | ||
| How? | ||
| Well, they can feel that they lost before, so Satan wants to claw us down to the pit with him. | ||
| And so that's where, I mean, we see it, and the enemy knows they've lost. | ||
| They're trying to take as many with us as they can. | ||
| How do we reach out? | ||
| Because, you know, the lost sheep was great. | ||
| A lot of folks are awake. | ||
| I think their main job is to be waking up others. | ||
| But when people are already turned over to evil, when do you give up? | ||
| Like, how do you decide, I'm going to try to wake this person up, but this person's too far gone? | ||
| Or are you trying to wake them all up, or what do you do? | ||
| Here's what you've got to know. | ||
| Where's our effing booze? | ||
| I got exactly what you want right here. | ||
| How? | ||
| Because you said on this Jewish holiday, people are supposed to drink, right? | ||
| Yeah, because wine... | ||
| Well, I mean, if it's a religious thing, I'll do it. | ||
| Because wine... | ||
| Talk me into it. | ||
| Because wine and alcohol is, you know, in moderation. | ||
| Don't go all crazy cowboy. | ||
| Always in moderation. | ||
| Because joy lived in our spirits, and joy is a great weapon against the Satan, too, because he hates joy. | ||
| He don't even know what that is. | ||
| F him. | ||
| F him. | ||
| Yeah, let's drink to get rid of the devil. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| What a day! | ||
| What a day! | ||
| How do you reach out to the lost? | ||
| Where's the effing booze? | ||
| Alec pulls out a full bottle of Jameson's from under his desk. | ||
| Of course he does! | ||
| Why would he struggle? | ||
| Finding that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Good God. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That is maybe one of the most irresponsible things I've ever heard on a broadcast. | ||
| How so? | ||
| I mean, I just can't... | ||
| I just mean, like... | ||
| Think of another show where, apropos of nothing, someone can just say... | ||
| Where's the booze? | ||
| Where's the fucking booze? | ||
| And then someone else just brings a Jameson bottle out from beneath their desk. | ||
| On television. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| I never really think about this that much because I don't know. | ||
| Again, I'm an adult. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| But like... | ||
| There is a chance that there are kids watching. | ||
| We know there are kids watching. | ||
| Well, in the past there have been, but who knows how much there is a youth viewership. | ||
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Fair, fair. | |
| But when you talk about corrupting the youth, and they have all these fears that people in drag will somehow ruin... | ||
| I think it's irresponsible to just have this kind of a free-flowing, like, where's the fucking booze kind of thing. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe look at that, Alex. | ||
| I want to hold these bizarre standards for everybody else. | ||
| I'll tell you this, Dan. | ||
| As far as this show being a family show goes... | ||
| I don't think your parents would let you watch it on account of it does not promote good family behaviors. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I will say that while there were a number of things that I wish I had watched, perhaps, that were not allowed in my family, there were also a lot of things that... | ||
| You saved me from. | ||
| Yeah, that would have been... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So yeah, they're drunk. | ||
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Good show. | |
| Good show. | ||
| It does not help the energy, really. | ||
| See, that's the thing that really bums me out, is so far this has been stilted and garbage, and you, I mean, I would at least expect a couple of drinks to liven things up a bit. | ||
| I don't think this is Roseanne's first drink. | ||
| Well, that I agree with. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| And also, it's one in the afternoon. | ||
| So it's not Alex's first drink either. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| Here's effing Satan. | ||
| Go to hell, Satan. | ||
| Yep, go back to whence you came. | ||
| But here's what people don't know about Satan because they've been tricked. | ||
| Okay, they've been tricked. | ||
| By whom? | ||
| People. | ||
| Give us the esoteric Jewish secrets. | ||
| I certainly am, my friend. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Let me get my sip and wet my lips. | ||
| And asking, you know, Asking for connection and the right words. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| God Almighty created him. | ||
| He created it. | ||
| Don't let nobody tell you that he's as powerful as God because he ain't and he never will be. | ||
| Don't let nobody give you that truth. | ||
| Did anybody see that? | ||
| That's a lot of how they control you. | ||
| You know, all these satanic cults, that's what they tell the kids. | ||
| That's what they tell the kids and all the satanic cults. | ||
| That Satan is as powerful as God. | ||
| All these satanic cults everywhere. | ||
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Who is that? | |
| Okay. | ||
| I mean, of all the things that I've... | ||
| No, it's the number one issue in the country right now. | ||
| I've just... | ||
| I didn't know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I didn't know? | ||
| Well, now you do. | ||
| That was... | ||
| I don't like it when somebody tells me that I've been tricked over something, and they are very conspiratorial about it, and then it turns out it's something that I think everyone already knows? | ||
| Well, according to the lore, yeah, God created everything. | ||
| I mean, that's the whole thing. | ||
| And, yeah, obviously the antagonist isn't as powerful as the all-powerful God. | ||
| You can go back to Job, you can do Jesus in the desert, you can do... | ||
| You can do the book. | ||
| You can do John the Revelator. | ||
| Put him in the escalator. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Elevator? | ||
| Can't remember. | ||
| Elevator, I think. | ||
| Something that goes up. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You could do it all, but the whole point of all of it is that God created everything, and that includes the assholes. | ||
| True. | ||
| So, Roseanne, now that she's gotten a little bit of that whiskey in her. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| A little fortifying juice. | ||
| A little Texas fire in the mouth. | ||
| Now she has one of, I think, the worst thoughts that she has. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm going to straighten all this out for people. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| But God did create him, and what people don't know is that there is a... | ||
| He has a reason to exist, and that is he has his followers and his hordes, you know? | ||
| They've been set loose on people, and what is that for? | ||
| Because a lot of people here, well, they ain't even people, Alex. | ||
| What? | ||
| Are they clones? | ||
| A lot of people here, they don't... | ||
| What looks like people, they don't even have souls. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Oh, I know, I know. | ||
| They're like apparitions that we create with what I believe, with our own evil thoughts and deeds, we create an apparition that comes at us. | ||
| It's called a golem that we create that later turns on us. | ||
| Because of the evil thoughts and deeds that we do, we created those people. | ||
| Tolkien describes that as Gollum. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| What? | ||
| Shut the fuck up! | ||
| No! | ||
| No! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No! | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Fuck off. | ||
| That's Gollum. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Look, leaving a lot of the bullshit to the side. | ||
| Let's leave a lot of it. | ||
| There is an idea that Roseanne is expressing here that is a lot of people aren't people. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| What they are are manifestations of your negative thoughts. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Do you think that manifestations of your negative thoughts deserve the same kind of rights or respect or dignity that humans do? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because this is the line of thinking that is very readily accessible from there. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, it's dehumanizing, basically, of people that you just choose to decide are manifestations of your negative thoughts. | ||
| This is fucked up. | ||
| You know, maybe, ultimately, That is the one free speech law we really should have. | ||
| It's like, whatever it is you do, you cannot claim another human being is not a human being. | ||
| Because ultimately, isn't that the first point for... | ||
| I mean, every genocide is the beginning is those people are not human. | ||
| You are. | ||
| I agree with you that it is the first step down the most dangerous rhetorical road. | ||
| I think dehumanizing language is... | ||
| It is a justifying of horrific things. | ||
| But I don't know how you legislate that. | ||
| I don't know how that works in practice. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then you have to come up with all kinds of things of like, well, what if we do end up having clones? | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| Can you say that a clone isn't a person? | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| Or whatever. | ||
| You have all kinds of weirdos who will get into those abstract, futuristic, what-if cases. | ||
| Right, and I don't want to talk to them. | ||
| Well, they're going to talk to you. | ||
| Right, but I would like to solve the genocide problem first, and then we can worry about clones. | ||
| I agree with you in as much as that kind of idea. | ||
| Being expressed should be taken far more seriously than a lot of other things. | ||
| It should be viewed as an intervention point. | ||
| Maybe not illegal, but it should be something where if you are dehumanizing another human being, the world should stop and educate you on what happens next. | ||
| Definitely. | ||
| Especially when it's surrounding dehumanizing classes of people. | ||
| Certainly. | ||
| That's one very big red flag. | ||
| Races, religions, anything, yeah. | ||
| But then also what Roseanne here is doing is giving you carte blanche to choose whoever you want to dehumanize based on, I guess, disagreement. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean, if somebody is disagreeing with you, then the only person who would really disagree with you is you. | ||
| And therefore, if they're disagreeing with you, they're a manifestation of your own insecurity. | ||
| And so the only way to overcome them is to metaphorically and literally kill them. | ||
| Now, what's sneaky about it is what look like people. | ||
| Bosh. | ||
| Bosh indeed. | ||
| So, Alex discusses his past with Satanism. | ||
| And this is Dom. | ||
| When I was growing up, I was a nice young child, and then when I became a teenager, I never got into actual devil worship, but I could definitely start dialing into that energy. | ||
| And I had a lot of power, but it was only if I was hurting people. | ||
| And I never really got all the way into it. | ||
| Maybe that's because you worked out a lot. | ||
| But I see that was God using my own free will, because if I hadn't skated on the edge of that, I wouldn't have the understanding of it. | ||
| It's so you can master it. | ||
| And so you can exercise and get it out. | ||
| Like it says, you know, pluck it out. | ||
| It's so you can learn to grow your soul because the soul can grow. | ||
| I know he's lying about it, but according to Alex, during that time in his life, he killed multiple people. | ||
| So I guess according to Roseanne, those murders were just things Alex needed to do in order to grow his soul. | ||
| Or possibly, ooh, this doesn't even really matter, because those folks probably weren't even people. | ||
| They were just projections of Alex's negative thoughts, so they wasn't even really murder. | ||
| That's why he grew out of it. | ||
| He had to. | ||
| They were challenges. | ||
| Metaphorical and literal murder were both important in this circumstance. | ||
| A hundred percent. | ||
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I... | |
| Yep. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Now, there is a test to see if you have a soul. | ||
| I mean, boy, I just wish people would not... | ||
| Just don't talk about your theology. | ||
| Just don't do it. | ||
| Because then you're going to wind up here sooner or later. | ||
| Dude, I don't even know if this is theology. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Because you're going to wind up there. | ||
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This is drunk idiots. | |
| If you start talking, you're going to wind up talking shit. | ||
| I bet she probably doesn't even believe this if you scratch her hard enough. | ||
| She'd be like, eh, you know what, you're right. | ||
| And then she'd go home and she'd continue believing it. | ||
| No one cares. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But anyway, there's a test to see if you have a soul. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| A lot of people don't know if they have a soul, but here's how you know. | ||
| Can you change? | ||
| Because only someone with a soul can change. | ||
| Quick, chop off your finger. | ||
| We have free will if you have a soul. | ||
| We're not a robot, as the left tells us. | ||
| You're just a robot. | ||
| No, we're not, because the soul can grow. | ||
| And people who cannot change, they are messengers. | ||
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What? | |
| That's the word for them. | ||
| Another word is angels, good and bad. | ||
| But they're here to tempt the souls to choose which side they're going to go on. | ||
| That's one way of looking at it. | ||
| Certainly is one way. | ||
| I don't think I would cover this if it wasn't Roseanne. | ||
| Yeah, I wouldn't. | ||
| I wouldn't do this. | ||
| Nope, nope. | ||
| If this wasn't, like, a very big interview that Alex had, and I think, I mean, I've gotten personal messages from people as well as, like, tweets from folks that are like, I'm not gonna watch this because you guys gotta cover it, you know, like, that kind of stuff I've heard people be like, this was nuts. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, I think I probably would just be like, yeah, like, if this was a Project Camelot episode, I'd probably, like, I don't feel... | ||
| Great about this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's Alex interviewing a gigantic celebrity that's presumably out of his orbit. | ||
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Right. | |
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Maybe not ideologically, but in terms of celebrity. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Generally speaking. | ||
| But this is upsetting. | ||
| I appreciate that, like, Alex was like, yeah, the left calls us robots. | ||
| 15 minutes after she was like, everybody you don't believe in is a robot or a clone. | ||
| Or a negative projection of your mind. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Please don't tell me what I do when you did it five minutes ago. | ||
| That's not fair. | ||
| I don't really believe that the left calls everyone robots. | ||
| I don't believe they call anybody robots. | ||
| I think this is all made up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So maybe we're in purgatory on Earth. | ||
| Currently watching somebody that I looked up to do this. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| You think it's a little hellish? | ||
| That's purgatory-esque. | ||
| Well, Roseanne believes that we're in hell. | ||
| Oh, well, that's fair. | ||
| I think at an archetypal level, we all know this is a test. | ||
| What is your description of this dimension, where we are? | ||
| Is it a purgatory? | ||
| Is it a test? | ||
| How would you quantify that? | ||
| I always say it's hell. | ||
| How would you quantify that? | ||
| This is hell where we came to pay for something we did. | ||
| But... | ||
| We have the sparks of God in us, as it says, that the sparks of soul are within us, and we're supposed to set them ablaze. | ||
| We're supposed to make a big-ass fire out of them. | ||
| That's why our holiest day is called Log Bomer, and it's a day of bonfires. | ||
| I think that the idea that this is hell and that we're here to atone for some unspecified past life crime precludes the possibility that any of us actually have free will. | ||
| If our existence is predicated on something that happened in a past life and we're only alive as punishment for that, then it's a pretty bleak picture. | ||
| Sadder than what I hear from most Satanists, if I'm being honest. | ||
| Also, Log Bomair is a day of celebration in Judaism, but it is not the most holy day. | ||
| The only way for that to be true would be for Rosanne to subscribe to some kind of subsect of Judaism that does consider it the most holy day. | ||
| I don't know of any that do, but one that would be a very particular type of Judaism, I think. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| What I mean here is that Logbomare, the celebration, is largely seen as the anniversary of the death of Simeon Ben-Yokai, who's a major figure within Kabbalah. | ||
| He's often erroneously cited as the author of the Zohar. | ||
| I don't know for sure, but the overemphasizing of Lag Boulmer leads me to suspect that Roseanne may be a follower of a more mystical birth. | ||
| branch of Judaism, which is fine, but it should be a huge problem for Alex. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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But I guess it's not, because Roseanne's a celebrity who will talk to him. | |
| I guess Alex also could be aware of that. | ||
| Like, he knows that if he explores it at all, his audience will be super pissed off. | ||
| Yeah, don't explore too much of that. | ||
| Like, from your perspective as an esoteric person. | ||
| Wait, I have used this to scapegoat things when I need to talk to Nazis. | ||
| No kidding. | ||
| Yeah, it's very bizarre to me. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I just, what's the point of having a- I like a bonfire, though. | ||
| What's the point of having a book if you're not going to read it or say what it says? | ||
| I just don't understand. | ||
| What's the point of doing an interview with Alex and saying he's a hero of yours if you don't know what he actually talks about? | ||
| That's a great point. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There is no point. | ||
| None of this makes sense. | ||
| It's a waste of everybody's time. | ||
| Dude. | ||
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By the end of this, that is what I come away with. | |
| Anyway, let's discuss free will. | ||
| What is the trick to get people to never be conscious and join evil without knowing it? | ||
| That seems to be the devil's trick, because when you actually pull back, God gives us prosperity and freedom and happiness and family and all these good things. | ||
| Everything evil gives us is destructive and is worthless. | ||
| Why would you even join it? | ||
| People think they have free will, but they don't. | ||
| Really. | ||
| You can only order what's on the menu, Alex. | ||
| What? | ||
| That's almost like a Calvinistic view, like predestination. | ||
| Yeah, you can only get what's on the menu. | ||
| When you think, you can only get what's on the menu, I guess. | ||
| So why did God do that? | ||
| Because people from particular families tend to go certain ways. | ||
| People from evil families tend to go the other way. | ||
| Sometimes there's different things. | ||
| But it does seem like you have free will, but it's kind of pre-baked into the cake. | ||
| There's free will, but it's kind of determined that. | ||
| It's like, okay, you're free will, but you're going to do this. | ||
| No. | ||
| You just get what's on the menu. | ||
| You can choose. | ||
| So these two are real thinkers having completely different conversations with each other without realizing it. | ||
| Dan! | ||
| They're not talking about similar ideas at all. | ||
| You should have told me to get way higher. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You should have been like, Jordan, in order to sit through this conversation, you need to be out of your gourd. | ||
| Thankfully, I have this bottle of Jameson. | ||
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Please! | |
| Yay! | ||
| So, Roseanne is trying to express that there's a limitation on free will, and as much as you can really only choose the things that are options on the menu. | ||
| She slips in a small point, which Alex talks over and she doesn't get to expand on, which is that if you think the only options are what's on the menu, then you can only choose from the menu, which implies that she actually doesn't believe that the metaphorical menu is a limitation of free will, only a perception people have that they need to push past. | ||
| If they push past the menu, then the options open up. | ||
| But if you accept the menu, then you only have those choices. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Insert bong sound. | |
| Right. | ||
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Meanwhile, Alex is exploring one of his favorite theories, namely that there's a genetic base as to whether or not a person is good or evil. | |
| He's expressed many times an inclination that he has to believe that evil families create evil people and good families create good people. | ||
| He's basically a spiritual eugenicist. | ||
| Neither of them realizes the angle the other has on free will, and they're just saying their own dumb thoughts to each other. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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This is a pointless interview, which is... | |
| Yeah, I would, I mean... | ||
| I'm waiting for them to just set a garbage can up 10 feet away and just start tossing rolled up bundles of paper in there as they're just like, yeah, free will's crazy. | ||
| Ooh, that one was close. | ||
| Bong sound. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There should be a blacklight. | ||
| Absolutely! | ||
| This is so fucking boring. | ||
| Wait, I did cut out the clip where she's like... | ||
| How does a lava lamp work? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| That didn't happen. | ||
| I wish it did! | ||
| I have to clarify. | ||
| Yeah, you have to. | ||
| Do you understand, Dan? | ||
| You have to clarify. | ||
| Yeah, because anything's possible. | ||
| That that didn't happen. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So Roseanne has a thought that Alex should throw something at her for sale. | ||
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Sure! | |
| But mysteriously, he doesn't. | ||
| I think that we were put here to grow and to learn and to develop our skills to be godlike because he, of course, wants us to... | ||
| Be infinite beings. | ||
| I don't believe that he put us here just to die and shrivel up. | ||
| I think he wants us to figure out how we can live forever. | ||
| And I do believe science is on the verge of that now. | ||
| That we would be immortal. | ||
| Which, that is just a reflection of how powerful we are, that we can physically pull things together to the third dimension when it's already been done in the higher dimensions. | ||
| Alex talks all the time about this pursuit of immortality being an affront on God. | ||
| It's evil to pursue immortality. | ||
| That's what the ultimate elitists want to do. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So you're saying that you brought in a... | ||
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West Coast celebrity? | |
| Who's coming onto your show trying to tell you about eternal, infinite life? | ||
| Wait till she accidentally endorses communism. | ||
| Yeah, no kidding. | ||
| So, she also has a really interesting idea here that is completely wrong, but fascinating. | ||
| That's all I'm saying. | ||
| We have the power to change everything with a decision to not do it anymore. | ||
| To not hold up. | ||
| Those structures of Babylon anymore, just to let them fall. | ||
| I mean, just to let them fall. | ||
| You know, I ran for president in 2012 and I found out because I wanted to find out how it works, you know. | ||
| And I did find out that if less than 30% of the people vote, and I'm not advocating this, but then they have to call it not an election. | ||
| But they never tell us that. | ||
| Well, let me ask you a big picture, which is really the little picture. | ||
| Kind of the 5-foot view instead of the 30,000-foot view. | ||
| What do you expect with Ukraine? | ||
| What? | ||
| Shift the topic, Alex, because that is definitely not true. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| The people, you know, they never tell us that because it's not true. | ||
| I would like... | ||
| I genuinely am flabbergasted by the idea that you would think that rule made sense to anyone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hey, 30% of the people didn't vote. | ||
| No, only under 30% voted. | ||
| Under 30% voted. | ||
| So, yeah. | ||
| So, nope. | ||
| Doesn't count. | ||
| Not an election. | ||
| We're just going to stick with the government we have until everybody votes. | ||
| Or you're going to do it over. | ||
| Yeah, then you have to just keep doing it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Although, I do think that we should pretend that this is true. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because then, as an act of rebellion, maybe all these people wouldn't vote. | ||
| But then again, that's disenfranchising and I don't support that. | ||
| But the only thought that you can have if you believe that's the case and you're following the train of thought that she's going down is like, maybe we should all just not vote and then overthrow the system that way. | ||
| Genuinely speaking, if that were true, I'd be fine with not voting. | ||
| I would be happy to get under 30% just to see what the fuck everybody do. | ||
| If that were true, the... | ||
| The types of communities that we've run in in our lives, the activist types and protesters and stuff, it would be a singular obsession of a lot of people that I've known in my life, were it true? | ||
| But it is not. | ||
| It is just some weird thing that someone told Roseanne when she apparently ran for president in 2012. | ||
| God damn! | ||
| And then wrote Roseanarchy where she learned how to... | ||
| I mean, just think about what somebody would... | ||
| Okay, I'm not talking about Roseanne believing this. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Believe whatever you want. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Think about if this were real, what was the... | ||
| This person's mind, like, in that Constitutional Congress, going like, was it one guy in the back trying to sneak it in there real quick? | ||
| Just like, hey, this will be fun. | ||
| What if this happens? | ||
| And then he just drops it in? | ||
| Where does that come from? | ||
| Well, it is an interesting idea, too, because if you're having a lower threshold of voting, then why not just have compulsory voting? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, like, if that is the case, like, if a certain amount of people are specifically required to vote, then... | ||
| I mean, the thought spirals very quickly to like, well, it's just a mandate voting. | ||
| So why would you put that in there? | ||
| That can only be in there if you think that there's some sneaky way to exploit the possibility of less than 30% of the population voting in order to then do something. | ||
| It is a purely sneak-based rule. | ||
| Which you're failing to take into account is that in those days, there was a high prevalence of weirdos. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| That is fair. | ||
| A lot of strange ideas. | ||
| That is fair. | ||
| Did you... | ||
| I think I heard you make a Court of Heaven joke earlier. | ||
| There was a reminiscence of the Court of Heaven wherein the golem is following behind you, snatching on you again? | ||
| Well, here is where you become a witch. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I wanted to say that the real reason Satan was invented is because in the upper court of God, guess who the prosecuting attorney turns out to be, Alex? | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Satan. | ||
| No! | ||
| He goes to God and says, these are bad. | ||
| Get the shit out of here. | ||
| That's why he wants us to do sins and create wicked dominions. | ||
| He wants us to do sins. | ||
| And then he brings us before the court of heaven and says, here were their sins and here's what I got them to do. | ||
| So in effect, you don't get away with nothing. | ||
| That's what's crazy is Satan is described as the prosecutor. | ||
| Wow! | ||
| This is a fucking entrapment game? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's all of human existence is an entrapment game. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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| If I'm ever going to subscribe to a religion and take on a deity, I'm not going to choose this one for a few reasons. | ||
| For a few? | ||
| The first is what you brought up. | ||
| That's a weird rule. | ||
| It's an entrapment racket, and God's complicit in it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The second is that there's no reason to have a court. | ||
| If God is God, then they already know the outcome before any case is heard, so the only reason to have this pageant is to be sadistic toward the person on trial. | ||
| This is just a show trial meant to torture you into thinking that you have a chance to plead your case, and it allows you to pretend that there's some kind of a fair process that you're involved in. | ||
| Or, even more terrifyingly, imagine the alternative. | ||
| God doesn't know the outcome, and there's a chance that you could be a real piece of shit, but so good at arguing that you convince God. | ||
| The devil throws up his hands and like, well, I guess this guy beat me. | ||
| The whole fabric of morality is demolished, and the only thing that matters is rhetorical ability. | ||
| Simultaneously, it introduces the possibility that God can be tricked, which is a nonsensical idea on its face. | ||
| It's either that grim reality, or God has decided that when you die, you get to be the subject of a show trial that's only meant to be cruel. | ||
| Those are two shitty options. | ||
| Also, if Satan is the prosecutor, do you get a defense attorney? | ||
| How do you pass the bar in heaven? | ||
| Or do you have to go pro se? | ||
| That doesn't seem fair, particularly considering that you don't know the laws of heaven, and the judge and prosecutor have known each other since the beginning of time, and the judge created the prosecutor. | ||
| Just gotta be a conflict of interest. | ||
| There is definitely something going on there. | ||
| This is bad due process. | ||
| This is not good. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Can you get an appeal? | ||
| Can you appeal your case? | ||
| It is like... | ||
| This is what would result if your god was lonely, jealous, and fucking apparently disappointed all the time in you for doing the things that you created somebody to make them do? | ||
| Can you post bail? | ||
| What is this? | ||
| If you're awaiting trial in heaven, can you go to heaven? | ||
| I want to go back to... | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| On bail? | ||
| You can't go to heaven on bail. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because the trial happens outside the gates. | ||
| Can you go back to earth? | ||
| You can go back to earth. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That's why so many people here aren't people. | ||
| They're just ghosts. | ||
| They're ghosts awaiting trial. | ||
| Dude, is that what near-death experiences are? | ||
| Totally. | ||
| You go back on bail. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| They're like, hold on, hold on. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Near-death experiences are a mistrial. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Hung jury. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| When God is the only... | ||
| Is there a jury? | ||
| No. | ||
| Is there a jury? | ||
| I assume so. | ||
| It's all 12 apostles. | ||
| That's what it's based off of. | ||
| Very dumb. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So anyway, I like macadamia nuts, and so does Roseanne. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I grow pineapples, citrus, and I got like 2,000 mac nut trees. | ||
| And I'm glad to talk about this too because the macadamia nut is a gift of God. | ||
| And I believe that might have been what manna was in the desert. | ||
| I have it in my mind. | ||
| It could have been. | ||
| Macadamia nuts in the desert. | ||
| That nut is the perfect protein that has the exact amount of fats and protein to nourish the brain. | ||
| And I have it all over the ground in Hawaii because it costs too much to shell it twice. | ||
| And then, you know, that's why they're so expensive. | ||
| But this is the most perfect food for the human being that, you know, I believe it's just the perfect food that could solve world hunger right now if they'd figure out a world food. | ||
| Well, that's the thing. | ||
| The globalists are openly creating as many problems as they can because they're scared of this jump point we're about to achieve. | ||
| We'll have free energy, unlimited power, unlimited life, even the third dimension. | ||
| God's given us so much power that our soul is eternal, but now it's about to be eternal. | ||
| Even in this third dimension, the reflection of that eternity is so powerful, it's about to create immortality here now. | ||
| That's the higher dimensions invading the lower dimensions. | ||
| Alex doesn't give a shit about macadamia nuts. | ||
| Honestly, this was the first time I was interested because I was like, I kind of want to learn more about macadamia nuts. | ||
| I don't know that much about macadamia nuts. | ||
| Yeah, Alex was like, I'm going to talk about something else. | ||
| Of all things I wanted out of that religion, I was like, sweet, we're off religion and we're on to nuts. | ||
| It's cute that Roseanne thinks that macadamia nuts were manna in the Bible, but it's just not possible. | ||
| That plant was only indigenous to Australia prior to the late 1800s when it was first imported to Hawaii. | ||
| Manna was the food that Israelites sustained themselves on when they were in the desert after leaving Egypt, and the area just wouldn't have had macadamia nuts. | ||
| Also, the biblical descriptions of manna sound nothing like macadamia nuts, like how manna was the size of coriander seeds and, quote, looked like resin. | ||
| Also, quote, when the dew settled on the camp at night, the manna also came down. | ||
| In Exodus, it says, quote, morning by morning, they gathered it each as much as he could eat. | ||
| But when the sun grew hot, it melted. | ||
| Doesn't sound like macadamia nuts. | ||
| I do love the idea of a god of Israel who is like, listen, my people need me. | ||
| And I've got this macadamia nut farm in Australia. | ||
| So I think it's all working out. | ||
| I'm going to import that shit. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So yeah. | ||
| Also, here's where Roseanne accidentally is kind of getting into maybe a commune kind of living. | ||
| And if you pay close attention, I believe she even catches herself almost saying communes. | ||
| What does it look like to live in a perfect community that works for all the people, where all the kids are safe? | ||
| And I think about that all the time. | ||
| So in Hawaii, it's a bunch of farms in communes. | ||
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And everybody grows the things that are needed for the community. | |
| Us small groups of people all work the land together? | ||
| It works really well. | ||
| Share everything with no ownership? | ||
| And I think everybody should start thinking about that now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Each according to their needs. | ||
| What is the point? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Don't even talk to each other. | ||
| I think it works really well. | ||
| Don't even talk to each other. | ||
| Just hold up signs and then put dots on your bingo card. | ||
| Alex should be furious about this kind of idea, but he's not. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| So Alex earlier asked about Ukraine, and there wasn't really an answer, but it comes back up a little bit, and Alex is a big old liar. | ||
| How do they not know that, oh, the Russians are losing, now they're really ready to go to war? | ||
| Like, how do you not know human nature? | ||
| It's like, it's not human. | ||
| I can tell you right now, I said it a year ago when it started, I said they're going to beat the Russians up front, the Russians are going to double down. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Well, they want an escalation because that's part of depopulation. | ||
| Also, war is a great cover for stealing kids. | ||
| And let's talk about that. | ||
| Everything is about that. | ||
| I called it the Pedo Ponzi pyramid. | ||
| Talk about it. | ||
| Their currency is innocence of children, because children are connected to God, and if they can torture a child, that pisses God off and sticks a knife in God's leg. | ||
| And that's what it is, is they want to torture God, and that's why they want to hurt children. | ||
| Is that correct? | ||
| They hate life. | ||
| They're necrophilic. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| I gotta say, there's nothing we need less in the world right now than two drunk idiots complaining about how everyone they don't like is a pedophile trying to hurt kids in order to torture God. | ||
| Right? | ||
| It's beyond worthless. | ||
| Get the fuck out. | ||
| However, I wanted to play that clip because Alex is again repeating his completely fraudulent story about his predictions about Ukraine. | ||
| We know because we listened to it and have a memory that Alex said that the war would be over in a few days and that Putin had paid off the Ukrainian military and Zelensky to stand down. | ||
| In case you didn't hear that, Here is Alex saying that Zelensky was a Russian double agent on February 24, 2022. | ||
| But that's why you're not seeing any real Ukrainian resistance, because it was all for show. | ||
| And the comedian Hollywood president was a double agent the whole time. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| That's what all the smart money is on. | ||
| That's what all the experts I know, and I'm an expert myself, know. | ||
| And so Putin's fighting a war he already won before he pulled the trigger. | ||
| And that's why we're Infowars.com. | ||
| Tomorrow's news. | ||
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| Looks bad in hindsight. | ||
| Seems like it. | ||
| He doubled down on that the next day and said on February 25th, 2022, that the war would be over within 48 hours. | ||
| I mean, look at this Reuters article that's out right now. | ||
| Or is that Bloomberg? | ||
| Putin calls on Ukrainian military to seize power to better negotiate with Russia. | ||
| Because he knows it's a bunch of globalist factions in there and a bunch of former presidents jockeying for control. | ||
| He's like, listen, I'll negotiate with the military, which is a very smart move. | ||
| I would expect this to be over in 48 hours. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| Obviously it's beating a dead horse to say that Alex is full of shit and a liar, but I want to stress this for a reason, so we can highlight a dynamic of how Alex lies. | ||
| In order for what he's saying in the present to be taken seriously, Alex needs to make sure that no one remembers how stupid the things he said before have been. | ||
| Luckily, whatever audience he has has no interest in questioning the things he says, so he can get away with what he's doing right here. | ||
| Alex is creating a narrative about his past statements and beliefs, which his audience will then accept as the gospel version of what happened. | ||
| The more Alex repeats that he said this Ukraine thing, he had it perfect, the more the audience will nod along with that, and the more they'll use it as an example of the times that hashtag Alex Jones was right. | ||
| Meanwhile, they're just parroting the bullshit that Alex needs to feed them to save his own ass from his own past actions. | ||
| Essentially, what Alex is doing is demanding that the audience accept a complete fiction about his own body of work in service of making it easier for him to get them to to accept future fictions that he sells them. | ||
| But here's the irony. | ||
| He's using this fictitious telling of the past in order to get them to accept the next time that he says something like, my sources tell me Zelensky's a Russian double agent, which the audience will eventually be forced to pretend Alex never said in service of the facilitator Facilitating his next lie. | ||
| Right. | ||
| In many ways, Alex's lies are a cycle of abuse that he has his listeners trapped in. | ||
| It's really sad that they can't see the forest or the trees and recognize that he's just lying to them to steal their money and make them hate groups of people that he doesn't like in society. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's very sad. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And it's pretty transparent if you actually pay attention. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Yeah, it's a little bit like a Ponzi scheme of bullshit. | ||
| Like, people are always putting bullshit in there and he's passing it around, doing that whole thing. | ||
| But the bullshit is nothing. | ||
| It's not real. | ||
| It's nothing. | ||
| It's fake. | ||
| And then the machine falls. | ||
| I was 100% right from the beginning on this Ukraine stuff, so you should believe me about other things I say that I'll demand you pretend I didn't say in the future. | ||
| Such a vicious cycle. | ||
| So long as your audience allows you to Retcon yourself to be hashtag Alex Jones was right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You are always Alex Jones was right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I just think that there's something so hilarious about that clip of him saying that Zelensky was a double agent all along ending with tomorrow's news today. | ||
| I mean, it's so fucking on. | ||
| I mean, it's too on the nose. | ||
| It's parody. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And it is so much like everything you hear Alex say, you should take as something that he will eventually have to pretend he didn't say. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because otherwise you won't be able to do whatever he wants to do today or tomorrow. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Because everyone will be like, no, you're fucking wrong all the time. | ||
| All the time. | ||
| So anyway, Roseanne says something kind of cute. | ||
| That's funny because look at how they say, like I said, oh, I went from domestic goddess to domestic terrorist, I guess, because I've never been somebody who's for killing kids in the womb or out, you know? | ||
| They said that she was a domestic goddess as a joke. | ||
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| That was branding because she wasn't. | ||
| Yeah, that was the idea is that she was putting that idea on its head. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Thereby giving people the chance to express themselves in a different way than they would be normally allowed to in society. | ||
| Yeah, but it is a cute turn of phrase. | ||
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| I went from domestic goddess to domestic terrorist. | ||
| I mean, it's not bad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think it... | ||
| Works better for... | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Now I can't remember her name. | ||
| Insider training. | ||
| Martha Stewart? | ||
| Martha Stewart, yes. | ||
| Is that domestic terrorism, though? | ||
| No, but I mean, it works better. | ||
| She is a widely recognized domestic goddess. | ||
| Yes, that is true. | ||
| And she didn't go to actual jail. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'll work on it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| The turn of phrase. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| But for now, I have to give props to Roseanne. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Because she has a really good point. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Two weeks ago, I played Soros. | ||
| He had an announcement in Germany. | ||
| It's like an hour long, but he literally can't even talk now, but he doesn't know when to give up. | ||
| He's just up there, like, bumbling around. | ||
| Well, he doesn't have a soul. | ||
| You can tell that. | ||
| That's not the good point. | ||
| Can't you? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So I want to say this. | ||
| I don't hate George Soros. | ||
| He's gone. | ||
| Maybe he was a human at some point. | ||
| I forgive him. | ||
| Not because I'm even supporting what he did. | ||
| I'm against what he did. | ||
| But I think God does want us to just realize he's a fallen human that we couldn't save, and he's a loss. | ||
| Here's what I say to him, and I say it to all the billionaires there, because, you know, you can't be a billionaire without hurting a lot of people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's no way. | ||
| Nailed it. | ||
| But to all the billionaires out there, with your money, you could save every kid on this planet and help us turn it into heaven. | ||
| You don't need all that money. | ||
| And if you would do that and help people instead of hurt them, we would gladly welcome you back into the fold of human beings, and you would be a hero, too. | ||
| And you would get so much love and acceptance, and people would just marvel at you. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| We're trying to give them amnesty. | ||
| That's what you want. | ||
| And so, you know, do the right thing and ask God to forgive you. | ||
| And after that happens, you know, you will make amends to the human beings you've harmed and you can come back with us and we'll have... | ||
| A lot of fun. | ||
| Hey, guess what, dum-dum? | ||
| They don't care what you think. | ||
| Yes, she understands that billionaires don't become billionaires without hurting tons of people, and then is appealing to some sense of decency to get them to give up all their money to save everyone. | ||
| They don't give a fuck. | ||
| They don't care what you think. | ||
| And you are a big celebrity. | ||
| Of all people, Roseanne, you are closer to a billionaire than you ever will be to me. | ||
| So I understand where you're coming from. | ||
| However, when you had the height of your money, when you had... | ||
| Millions of dollars coming in because you have one of the highest rated shows on television. | ||
| Per episode, you're making millions of dollars. | ||
| Did you give it all up so people would love you? | ||
| She might have given some to charity. | ||
| I understand that. | ||
| It's very conceivable. | ||
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| And it's a difference of scale. | ||
| And she probably paid her taxes, which is really what the conversation needs to be. | ||
| That's a huge difference. | ||
| It could be. | ||
| It's fucking billionaires need to be taxed. | ||
| Heavily. | ||
| They need to have their money taken. | ||
| It's the only tenable solution. | ||
| Because that is evening the playing field. | ||
| They make this exorbitant amount of money through exploiting us, and as a result, we tax them at a very high rate to pay for things that offset the damage of the exploitation that facilitated their wealth. | ||
| This is not an arrangement that they're going to enter into willingly because they love being super rich, and they understand that they had to hurt people to get to where they are. | ||
| They loved it. | ||
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| It was the joy of the game. | ||
| Or at least it's an acceptable part of it. | ||
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| And it's not like you're going to appeal to somebody's sense of decency, unless they're already inclined to do that. | ||
| And in that case, they are already. | ||
| And billionaires, we know we're not inclined to do that, because whenever that started happening to them, they were like, ooh, that's not good. | ||
| So they purchased a lot of government in order to deregulate themselves so they could continue to make all that money and hurt all those people. | ||
| Alex and Roseanne's solution seems to be that they're going to whine about how these billionaires should give up their money willingly. | ||
| And while they don't, Roseanne and Alex will dehumanize them and say that they have no souls and aren't human to the point where I guess they'll just end up having people I mean, if a rich person could willingly hand over some wealth and still be super rich, and by doing so, like, they would save a hundred lives? | ||
| At a certain point, it's hard to distinguish the choice to not do that, to not give up some of their money from, like, actively being a participant and killing those hundred people if this is the game. | ||
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| I mean, it's a sound argument. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| Well, fine, but you can take that off the table by taxing these fucking people in an appropriate and effective way. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| The question is, is that on the table? | ||
| And the answer seems to be no. | ||
| Not for them. | ||
| Not for Alex and Roseanne. | ||
| Somehow that is unacceptable. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Sitting around and saying that, like, oh, you billionaires should, like, give your money up willingly is, in effect, committing yourself to not solving the problem. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%. | ||
| So that's where we are. | ||
| But, like I said, I gotta give it up to her that she at least recognizes that there is no accumulation of wealth on that level without harm. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And I appreciate that she recognizes that, because that's not something that Alex would ever say on his own. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, this is a place where you cannot ask for them to be, of all things that are verboten, asking billionaires to not make money is the greatest of all on Infowars. | ||
| Hey, man, Alex doesn't shame people for being rich. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| No, he doesn't. | ||
| Anyway, Roseanne does hate billionaires. | ||
| Good. | ||
| Including, yay. | ||
| You don't get a billion dollars without screwing over innumerable amounts of people. | ||
| You just don't. | ||
| You know, that's why I... | ||
| One thing that bugs me about Kanye, or Ye, whatever... | ||
| Hey, talk about being a billionaire, Kanye. | ||
| Are there children sewing them clothes? | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| You've got a billion dollars, or had. | ||
| It isn't moral to have a billion dollars. | ||
| Well, I'm not even attacking... | ||
| Yay over having money. | ||
| But my issue was I talked to him and I said, I want to come on and talk about love. | ||
| He goes, yeah, I want to talk about love. | ||
| And he got here in a mask and did this whole Hitler thing. | ||
| And I went, hey, Hitler blew up Poland that did nothing. | ||
| Let's just believe your postulation that Jews are evil and dare to be killed. | ||
| I don't agree with that. | ||
| It's wrong. | ||
| But what about Poland? | ||
| Didn't have an answer. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Great. | ||
| I mean, he did come on and talk about love, about his love of Hitler. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I also like how this... | ||
| I feel like they're missing the point of... | ||
| This episode was supposed to be about joy. | ||
| Did they remember that this episode is about joy? | ||
| Well, it came up when they were pouring the whiskey. | ||
| Yeah, it was very joyful then. | ||
| And then somehow it devolved into everybody I don't like is a pedophile. | ||
| What a joyful episode! | ||
| And maybe some people aren't real. | ||
| Maybe they're not even real! | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So me and Roseanne agree on another thing. | ||
| And that is that Moana is good. | ||
| That's what they're really afraid of, is that we remember our connection to the divine, who we are. | ||
| That we remember who we are. | ||
| And, oh, they hate that so bad. | ||
| Because then that would... | ||
| It's like in that movie Moana. | ||
| I love that movie. | ||
| I've seen it so many times. | ||
| Where she gives the heart back to Te Fiti and suddenly everything dead. | ||
| Blooms again and comes back to life. | ||
| Did you see that movie? | ||
| I love that movie. | ||
| It's funny that Disney did it. | ||
| It creeped me out, really, that Disney did it. | ||
| But that's a whole other subject. | ||
| Yeah, maybe like the blanket, all these companies are evil and trying to indoctrinate your kids into Satanism and all this stuff. | ||
| Maybe, like... | ||
| When you see Moana and it's a really great movie, and you're like, wow, it's weird that that Satanist inducting company made this movie. | ||
| Maybe you should take a step back and think, maybe my perception is wrong. | ||
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| I'm going to throw this out there. | ||
| Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. | ||
| It is not a dick. | ||
| Sometimes it's not a dick. | ||
| I mean, Moana's good. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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Ah, hey, hey. | |
| Love that chicken. | ||
| It's a good movie. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So anyway, three years ago, Alex had a vision. | ||
| But also, this vision is something that he said he had as a kid in past episodes, and I don't believe any of this bullshit. | ||
| Sounds good. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Well, I can tell you a story. | ||
| Going back about three years ago, I was under major attack, but I always thought I was strong enough to do it. | ||
| Yeah, God's there, and God supports me, but I'm strong enough. | ||
| Oh, God, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| Who gives a shit about that guy? | ||
| Really deep experiences and giving knowledge I couldn't even understand and things, and I said, God. | ||
| Give me peace to be strong. | ||
| Let me really see what it is. | ||
| I never really prayed for something. | ||
| I always said, what's your will, God? | ||
| But I did say prayers. | ||
| Will you show me what it is and give me the knowledge? | ||
| And I remember a couple weeks after saying that prayer every day, I had a series of dreams. | ||
| And I know the different feelings. | ||
| It's like a different flavor you've never tasted. | ||
| You finally taste a new flavor. | ||
| You go, God, I've never had that new flavor. | ||
| This was, in this experience, was 100% real. | ||
| I couldn't even see the angel. | ||
| It was like it was there behind me showing me the universe and other civilizations and things that happened and how it works and everything. | ||
| Just total knowledge downloaded and like feeling totally complete. | ||
| Not ecstasy. | ||
| It was beyond ecstasy. | ||
| It was like timelessness, like I'm good forever. | ||
| This is a good spot right here. | ||
| But then, well, I got a curiosity. | ||
| I want to look into what happened here or why this happened. | ||
| And I could see civilizations that destroyed themselves and individuals that did. | ||
| They were like walled-up tombs. | ||
| God gave what they wanted. | ||
| They were their own little thing. | ||
| It was like old men just sifting sand forever. | ||
| They were cut off from God. | ||
| They wanted to be God. | ||
| And it was so powerful. | ||
| And I said, can I just stay here? | ||
| No, you've got stuff to do, but you're already here. | ||
| And then it happened again, and I got a little touch of it again. | ||
| That feeling is undoubtedly outside my body. | ||
| There's no connection to anything ever experienced like that because it's so intense you can't even... | ||
| It's so intense you're done. | ||
| It's like you're just like, I am complete. | ||
| This is absolute connection to everything. | ||
| There's no time. | ||
| It's like, I'm here. | ||
| And that is what... | ||
| The enemy knows they've cut off from. | ||
| Yeah, they get to go against God. | ||
| Yeah, they get to do bad things. | ||
| Yeah, they get to play God. | ||
| But they've been cut off from that. | ||
| I know what you mean. | ||
| Alex has talked about that kind of a vision and stuff happening when he was a kid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't believe any of this shit. | ||
| But we have reached the point of drunk where we're talking about visions and dreams and stuff. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| So Alex tells this story. | ||
| And I don't believe there's anything meaningful in it or anything. | ||
| But Roseanne says, I know what you mean. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| And this leads into her talking about a vision that she had. | ||
| And I do think that this is a bit more meaningful. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And it makes me super uncomfortable because she does end up crying in the middle of it. | ||
| But I do think that there's something kind of poignant. | ||
| And actually, I think there's something worth listening to here. | ||
| Have you felt that? | ||
| Yes, when I was three, I felt at first when I was three years old, I was in my grandmother's bathroom, and I grew up in an apartment house. | ||
| My grandparents in Salt Lake City, they owned an apartment house, and they sponsored people to come over from Auschwitz. | ||
| And the apartment house was filled with survivors. | ||
| And that's how I started comedy, too, because my grandma had a windowsill. | ||
| And I used to like to go in there and sing and dance for the people every Shabbat. | ||
| We had Shabbat dinner on Friday night, and I would do my Shirley Temple act, and those people lied to me, too. | ||
| They told me I was better than Shirley Temple, and they told me I was cuter than Shirley Temple, and I believed them. | ||
| Maybe they weren't lying. | ||
| No, they were lying. | ||
| I love that moment. | ||
| That's a really fun moment of Roseanne, some chop. | ||
| They're like, nah, they were lying. | ||
| Nah, they were lying. | ||
| It's very fun and human. | ||
| Yeah, that's the speed. | ||
| And so she's telling this story of this vision that she had when she was three in her grandma's apartment. | ||
| And this clip is uncomfortable as hell because she does start crying. | ||
| And I'm not mocking that at all. | ||
| But I think that the story that she tells... | ||
| Especially it being on Infowars and in the setting that she's in. | ||
| I really do think that this is something that, you know, merits discussion. | ||
| Anyway, they would all retell stories. | ||
| I was only three, and they were watching the Eichmann trial, too, on TV. | ||
| And I came in, they were watching TV, and I saw on TV pictures of the Holocaust. | ||
| And they would... | ||
| Tell stories, and I remember they'd point to me, and they'd say, "Little girls like her, they hung them on a meat hook." That's the one I remember. | ||
| And I was so scared, and I thought we lived there. | ||
| I went in my grandma's bathroom, and I was barely tall enough to lock the doors, locking them out. | ||
| And I was sitting there, and I was so afraid. | ||
| I thought that was going to happen to us. | ||
| I saw something in the air right in front of me. | ||
| It was a man on a horse and he pointed to me and he told me that I was going to live and that I was going to be okay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And he told me that he was always going to be with me and that someday I was going to have an answer for every question that was in my mind at that time. | ||
| And that I would always find... | ||
| My answers in books. | ||
| I would find my answers in books. | ||
| And I never forgot or left that. | ||
| And I would be, like, in my life, you know, it's like they call it mental illness and stuff. | ||
| They call it that. | ||
| But in my life, I would get these feelings that I would go. | ||
| I would go to a bookstore. | ||
| And I would have a question in my mind. | ||
| I'd find a book. | ||
| I'd open it, and there would be the answer every time. | ||
| All over the world, I've done that. | ||
| When I get this certain feeling, I'm guided to a book. | ||
| I always find it, and that happened to me just yesterday. | ||
| They want to cut us off from the divine. | ||
| I'll tell you a story. | ||
| I was afraid to tell anybody that I had that feeling because I knew always, don't tell nobody because they'll try to take you away from God. | ||
| Alex was trying to interrupt there in a very uncomfortable way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Look, I don't want to denigrate something that clearly has so much meaning to Roseanne in her life. | ||
| So I want to present that story without comment, except to say one thing. | ||
| That pain that she's expressing, that fear that she felt as a child, is what so many of Alex's friends deny. | ||
| She grew up around people who lived through the Holocaust. | ||
| It isn't something that happened in the ancient past. | ||
| She was alive around survivors. | ||
| And as a child, she had a not completely unreasonable fear for her own safety because of the simple fact that she was Jewish. | ||
| Many of Alex's associates, people he's friends with, people he platforms, people he offers a channel on band.v... | ||
| There are people who say that the Holocaust never happened or that it was a big exaggeration. | ||
| Roseanne's opening up about something really painful that terrified her as a child, sitting next to a person who's all too happy to associate with people who would say to her face that the thing that traumatized her as a child didn't happen. | ||
| What I'm saying is that she should choose better friends because Alex has a channel still up. | ||
| For Nick Fuentes, who's been getting bolder and bolder about his calls to expel Jews from the country. | ||
| This is not the place for something like this, but I feel sincerity from her. | ||
| That is moving, that story that she has. | ||
| I don't know if I necessarily believe that there was... | ||
| Like an apparition of someone on a horse? | ||
| You know. | ||
| But who cares? | ||
| The stories we tell about the past are often actually about the present. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And when she tells a story of a vision like that, I can hear that and I can see what it means to her. | ||
| When Alex tells a story about his visions, it's self-serving bullshit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| And there's such a difference. | ||
| It's hard to imagine, but it is more likely than not. | ||
| The majority response to this from people watching InfoWars is to say that Roseanne's full of shit. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| You know, it's to say that, oh, look at her awful grandparents lying to her about the Holocaust. | ||
| And some people definitely would have that. | ||
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Yeah, absolutely. | |
| That would totally be their reaction. | ||
| Yeah, it's dark. | ||
| Yeah, that's fucked up. | ||
| It's incredibly dark. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So anyway, Alex wants to bond, I guess, so he brings up his own, like, prophecies and stuff. | ||
| I'm... | ||
| I won't tell all the stories, but I'll tell one, and it's on record. | ||
| People ask how I went on air on July 25, 2001, and said they're going to blow up the World Trade Center and blame it on bin Laden. | ||
| At the time, I said, oh, I've looked at the news, I can tell it. | ||
| No, I had recurring dreams every night starting in May of 2021 of the planes crashing. | ||
| I told my ex-wife it. | ||
| She knows that. | ||
| And I went on air that morning and said there's bombs in the building. | ||
| They had blown it up because I was given that dream almost every night for three months before. | ||
| I was falling asleep listening to Bill Cooper and it entered my subconscious. | ||
| Yeah, whatever. | ||
| It's so less meaningful. | ||
| It's so vapid, the shit that he's trying to connect with. | ||
| It's just, I don't know, it's sad. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I feel personally a little bit offended. | ||
| You know, like, this is stolen prophecy valor, and I've got straight up, I've got the cred, you know? | ||
| Like, I'm the only person involved in this whole conversation that has a real-ass prophecy. | ||
| So, how about that? | ||
| And I'm the only one who isn't claiming to have visions about it, okay? | ||
| Yeah, but you still need to pump the brakes on that prophecy cred. | ||
| You pull that card a little too much. | ||
| Okay, apologies. | ||
| We're in a situation where more... | ||
| Listen, in my daily life, nobody talks about prophecies. | ||
| I never talk about it. | ||
| I never have to. | ||
| Then it comes up socially between you and I more than it needs to. | ||
| Well, yeah, but that's because we're doing this job. | ||
| I mean, off air. | ||
| Okay, fair enough. | ||
| Well, generally, it's a continuation of a conversation that started on air, so that's fair. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| So, Roseanne reintroduces her theme of, like... | ||
| Some people who aren't awake don't need to be. | ||
| Like this anti-evangelism that I think I can tip my hat to. | ||
| Everybody's awake. | ||
| I mean, the people that aren't awake, it's because they're not meant to be awake. | ||
| So just leave them. | ||
| You've got to just leave them at a certain point because that's how God wants it. | ||
| You know, if they're not awake yet, and after today I hope a whole lot more of them will awaken, but if they don't, then just leave them. | ||
| Not everybody can go, Alex. | ||
| I totally agree. | ||
| Let me ask you this question then. | ||
| What happens, I'm worried about once this Chan reaction goes complete, which is about halfway through right now, in my view. | ||
| What do people, we don't want any violence. | ||
| What do people, what happens when, which is happening in the next few months, when it... | ||
| Tips totally towards us. | ||
| So in the next few months, the Patriots are going to completely win. | ||
| Now, I think that this is stupid. | ||
| But here's where it goes. | ||
| I'm worried about once this Chan reaction goes complete, which is about halfway through right now, in my view. | ||
| We don't want any violence. | ||
| What happens when, which is happening in the next few months, when it... | ||
| Tips totally towards us. | ||
| What's the system going to do? | ||
| What do we do once we know they killed us, they gave us poison shots, attacked our children, their child molesters? | ||
| What do we do now? | ||
| Well, a lot of people are talking about retribution, but I'd say we ain't got no time for that. | ||
| What we have to do is rebuild immediately. | ||
| That's so offensive. | ||
| No, he can't. | ||
| He can't just let her cry. | ||
| He can't let her win the crying game. | ||
| It's so pathetic. | ||
| That is the saddest. | ||
| Saddest thing. | ||
| Like, I think when I was watching this, I was so fucking uncomfortable with anybody crying, quite frankly. | ||
| Shit, I was uncomfortable with the prayers at the beginning. | ||
| Oh, I felt terrible, yeah. | ||
| When Roseanne got emotional... | ||
| It was in the context of a story that clearly had deep emotional resonance for her. | ||
| That she was telling organically. | ||
| There were parts of it that were funny. | ||
| That she carried throughout her entire life. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| There was, like I said, a sincerity to the emotion that was being expressed. | ||
| And with Alex, it's so fucking performative. | ||
| And I don't know. | ||
| I can't... | ||
| Hear that. | ||
| I can't see that happening so close to after her crying that it isn't somehow in response. | ||
| Or somehow a need to like... | ||
| Show his own emotional state or something. | ||
| But it's false. | ||
| It's so... | ||
| God, I hate it. | ||
| Yeah, for all the reasons that I would suspect he was not offered several million dollars to be in Guardians of the Galaxy, this performance, top of the list. | ||
| There's so many reasons. | ||
| So Roseanne says at the end of that clip there that we need to focus on rebuilding. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so she has some ideas on how to rebuild. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And if anybody else said these things, Alex would throw his desk. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds about right. | ||
| Because I think he would hate this shit. | ||
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Uh-oh. | |
| And so I put a lot of thought into how we would rebuild so that we can save a lot of time because we don't want a lot of our kids dying. | ||
| And so I sort of did the work in 2012 of reorganizing things around grandmas because I figured out every grandma is pretty much responsible for about 100 people. | ||
| And so, you know, we will have to reorganize our communities around, you know, every moral grandmother I'm talking about, not some grandmas ain't good, you know, but grandparent is what I'm talking about, elders. | ||
| And we will have to organize our community first to take care of the children, make sure they're safe, that they're educated and fed. | ||
| And that's, like, our priority, right, for this new world. | ||
| Because the enemy's plan is to cut off the infrastructure. | ||
| We've got to get ready now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We have to have roads. | ||
| We have to have muscle, and we have a lot of teenage kids, a lot of boys. | ||
| We have to have them as our muscle, and they have to protect us. | ||
| And we have to reinvent... | ||
| So that's the attack on men. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is that the attack on me? | ||
| No, Alex seems to be imagining the ways the globalists are trying to undermine Roseanne's bizarre plans for the future. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which is weird. | ||
| I appreciate that she settled on the same system we have now. | ||
| Not really, though. | ||
| Well, I mean, there are a lot of similarities. | ||
| But it's organized around grandmas. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Instead of the patriarch, we have the matriarch. | ||
| Except for whenever there is a patriarch, because some matriarchs are bad. | ||
| And it's unlikely that the patriarchs who are the patriarchs would be bad. | ||
| And those bad patriarchs, there's no way that those bad patriarchs would have control. | ||
| And those bad patriarchs wouldn't get together and do a... | ||
| No, no, no, that doesn't sound right! | ||
| I just think that Alex would have a violent reaction to anybody else suggesting that there should be a society that's centralized around women. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And that treated boys as just muscle. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And, I mean, like, look, you can say a lot about Alex. | ||
| I don't think he respects his elders. | ||
| Except for, like... | ||
| The idea of, like, John Birch Society guys or G. Edward Griffin, those elders he might respect, but not when they're telling him what to do. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| In real life, he respects them, but if they were to come around and get in the way of his cash, that would be no longer respectful. | ||
| Yeah, there would be an issue. | ||
| He respects them as long as there isn't any kind of, like, society organizing around them as being on an elevated level above him. | ||
| Yeah, so this is dumb. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Anyway, Roseanne has a bizarre idea about what bodily autonomy means. | ||
| What they're doing to our boys is one thing, but what they're doing to our women, God almighty, Alex. | ||
| I'm so afraid for the women, because look what they're out there doing. | ||
| The women are the real power. | ||
| The women, they got them so fucked up, Alex, they don't know what's coming or going. | ||
| They're nothing but whores. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| I'm about to say, they take the system as their husband. | ||
| Well, they're out there defending to destroy the rights of women to bodily autonomy. | ||
| That's what these young girls are out there going. | ||
| No, we like men to come in our bathroom. | ||
| I mean, that's what they got them brainwashed to that degree. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Their husband. | ||
| Oh, that's what we're talking about. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Gillette has ads where a guy asking a girl out of the movie theater is rape. | ||
| No, they don't. | ||
| And also, even if they did, you're complaining about a Razor commercial from three years ago. | ||
| That'll teach them. | ||
| Boy, you're petty. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| The tip of the spear here. | ||
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Yeesh. | |
| Yeah, so apparently Roseanne's complaint is that trans people can go to bathrooms, and this is eroding bodily autonomy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Shouldn't she be more concerned about restrictions against reproductive health care? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Good point. | ||
| This is just dumb. | ||
| The words they're using don't even make sense. | ||
| No, I know. | ||
| It is when they talk to each other and they're not responding to what the libs are doing or whatever. | ||
| When they talk to each other and they have to explicate their own belief system. | ||
| It winds up being the dumbest possible shit because the only thing they think about is what the left is wrong about. | ||
| And they're stupid. | ||
| Here's the ultimate tragedy, though. | ||
| There are points here where a good interview could have happened, despite their drunkenness and idiocy. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I think that if Alex wasn't so interested in interrupting and talking about his own prophecies and visions... | ||
| And crying. | ||
| There is something that could have been drawn out from talking more about Roseanne's past and the way that this vision that she had has informed aspects of her life. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I think just from a personal interest interview subject standpoint, that could have gone a lot longer and you could have hit some fertile ground there. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| The discussion about... | ||
| So you have communes on Hawaii? | ||
| That kind of idea of how, oh, we do have to take care of each other and that kind of stuff, drawing some stuff out there could have made for an interesting interview. | ||
| Things about hating billionaires could have drawn out into an interesting interview. | ||
| Could have gone a lot of different ways. | ||
| I think nailing down some of the specifics about her beliefs and how they affect her life maybe in a certain context could have made for an interesting interview. | ||
| Could have, yeah. | ||
| They're talking at each other in such a way that, like... | ||
| This is all over the place. | ||
| There is very little connective tissue to even thoughts that Roseanne has here and then the next thought that she has. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| It's a mess. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I mean, knowing what I know about Roseanne's life, I would kill to interview Roseanne. | ||
| I would kill to talk to Roseanne. | ||
| I mean, after hearing all this shit, you know, obvious, all those things, I wouldn't want to, like, platform her. | ||
| But... | ||
| As far as a person in my life goes that I know interesting stories can flow through her like, I mean, torrential downpour. | ||
| I bet. | ||
| You know? | ||
| And then to get this is so fucking sad. | ||
| It's very disappointing. | ||
| But what do you expect? | ||
| It's Alex. | ||
| Yeah, that's fair. | ||
| So anyway, apparently there's clones. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And just sort of a content warning, I guess. | ||
| There's an R slur in this next clip. | ||
| Great. | ||
| They don't want ancestors. | ||
| What about genetic memories? | ||
| What about epigenetics exactly? | ||
| It's not just instincts. | ||
| We have the memories of our forefathers because they live on through us. | ||
| We have it in our blood and our DNA, and that's all their cloning and shit like that, their DNA studies, is to alter, you know, the Nazis. | ||
| That's why all the clones are retarded because they don't have the spirit. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| They don't know nothing about the human soul or the human spirit, and they never will because they ain't got it. | ||
| So that's our weapon, Alex. | ||
| That and joy and the love for each other. | ||
| So are there a bunch of clones? | ||
| I mean... | ||
| In real life, no. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I feel like in order to shut these people, we can clone someone. | ||
| We can totally clone someone. | ||
| It is possible. | ||
| The ethical implications, beyond unreasonable. | ||
| However, I think we should clone one person just to prove it has a soul. | ||
| How would you prove it? | ||
| It could change. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| They're the ones who are proving how to prove a soul. | ||
| So that means if I clone somebody, then they would have to then prove that that person does or does not have a soul. | ||
| If they do have a soul, that means all of us have souls. | ||
| Or if they don't have a soul, that means... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, when we're talking about the ethical ramifications of human cloning, you're introducing much further ethical implications. | ||
| I'm going all the way. | ||
| Can we create a human being bound by God's laws? | ||
| That's what I need to know. | ||
| The ultimate fight has begun. | ||
| It's just bizarre that they're having this conversation and they're... | ||
| Talking about clones as if they're everywhere. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I don't think that Alex thinks that. | ||
| No. | ||
| So him going along with Roseanne's framing and then being like, yeah, they're all R. I'm lost. | ||
| Here's something to understand, all right? | ||
| A couple of years ago, a Chinese scientist... | ||
| He used CRISPR to genetically alter the DNA of this set of twins in order to, according to that information, create an immunity to HIV or something along those lines, right? | ||
| He did that. | ||
| Unethically. | ||
| And the world went insane. | ||
| Right. | ||
| How fucking can you do that? | ||
| You know, that kind of thing. | ||
| To the point where it set any kind of research into that area back. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That kind of thing. | ||
| If there were clones walking around, if there was one clone walking around, everyone would know the clone's name, where it was at all times. | ||
| There would be a NORAD just for the clone. | ||
| That's a misuse of CRISPR. | ||
| Now, I use Chris Spicks to have breakfast. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Anyway, Roseanne thinks that Biden might be a clone. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| What happens with Biden? | ||
| Obviously, that guy's done. | ||
| What do you think happens? | ||
| Do you think that's Biden? | ||
| No. | ||
| What about them mayors? | ||
| They ain't even the same guy, I don't think. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That's what people say. | ||
| She said, do you think that's even Biden? | ||
| And Alex said, no. | ||
| So I guess Alex thinks that Biden's a clone. | ||
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What do you want in the affirmative? | |
| I understand. | ||
| You hate the libs. | ||
| We got it. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Give me the affirmative. | ||
| What is it you want? | ||
| Well, apparently Roseanne wants to live in Hawaii, which she does, and have a farm where she trades with her neighbors. | ||
| No shit! | ||
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Cool. | |
| Don't we all want to live in an idyllic Hawaiian commune? | ||
| She also wants to reorganize society around grandmas, which is convenience, and she's a grandma. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, they're... | ||
| Anyway, we have one last clip, and it's Roseanne giving a stirring call to arms for people to do nothing, which is fun. | ||
| I like the thing when it occurred to me that all people have to do is nothing. | ||
| That means... | ||
| When you've been agitated to take action, not just because they want to arrest you. | ||
| It's because they are watching you and they are manipulating you and they are moving you. | ||
| Everything they're doing, it's better just to take 10 deep breaths and do nothing. | ||
| Don't be pushed. | ||
| Just stay home and do nothing because it will fall faster. | ||
| Powerful. | ||
| Powerful. | ||
| I mean, listen. | ||
| I mean, maybe you can say it's good advice. | ||
| Maybe you can say any number of things. | ||
| But the only word you cannot describe that as is powerful. | ||
| Someone telling you to do nothing. | ||
| That is the only word you cannot use to describe that one thing. | ||
| Sit on your ass and do nothing. | ||
| Powerful. | ||
| Powerful. | ||
| Invigorating. | ||
| Powerful stuff. | ||
| I have not read that Eckhart Tolle book that just says, eh, sit down. | ||
| The power of nothing. | ||
| Relax. | ||
| Chill. | ||
| Chill out! | ||
| Come on! | ||
| So we come to the end of this, Jordan. | ||
| Yes, we do. | ||
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Indeed. | |
| We learned a lot. | ||
| We returned to a point that was made earlier, I think, by you, that this is a waste of time. | ||
| And I couldn't agree more. | ||
| Yeah, that one hits real hard now. | ||
| Yeah, I know that this was really big. | ||
| When the interview happened. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And we're a little bit late because we, you know, had the week off and everything. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| So it almost feels a little bit empty talking about it because it's a week later. | ||
| Maybe some of the buzz has died down and what have you. | ||
| Oh, I appreciate that more. | ||
| Man, I think this sucks. | ||
| I don't... | ||
| I don't know if it'll happen again. | ||
| Although both parties left this saying, like, well, let's do this again. | ||
| Let's do this again sometime, yeah. | ||
| And apparently she lives not only in Hawaii, but also in Texas. | ||
| So, like, she's right there. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| I don't think Alex had a good time. | ||
| I would doubt that. | ||
| When I said the energy was weird, it's not. | ||
| He looks annoyed. | ||
| Like, there isn't, like, a fun. | ||
| He's not enjoying it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He has to be there because she's famous to the point where he cannot not do it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But he doesn't want to do it because he doesn't like her. | ||
| He doesn't agree with her shit. | ||
| Well, he might like her. | ||
| Maybe they have pleasant conversations off air. | ||
| But whatever is coming out in this much longer conversation that they're having with each other, it's very clear that she has some ideas that are antithetical to his... | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| In direct conflict. | ||
| And if she actually listened to his show and knew what he was about, she wouldn't be into a lot of the stuff that he's into. | ||
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Nope. | |
| So, I mean, I don't know. | ||
| It's dumb, but I mean, I think it's unavoidable. | ||
| Whenever you have, like, actual celebrities that aren't, like, normal Info Warriors or Info Wars guests, it's kind of like, gotta check in on this shit. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, the problem with that, that's a double-edged sword, and that's why I like us doing it. | ||
| Doing this episode now with some distance is because every time we're like, oh, there's a big thing happening, we're always the Debbie Downers because it's boring as shit. | ||
| Everybody's like, oh shit, Roseanne's gonna do it. | ||
| Take some time, wait until this episode, then you're ready for it to be boring as shit. | ||
| Because if we do it the next day, then people are like, I can't wait for them to do that one, and then it's boring as shit! | ||
| There's a fair amount of this that is boring. | ||
| I mean, our episode isn't boring. | ||
| I think that... | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| I think taking this in through our show is probably the better way to do it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I don't think that through our show, it is fully possible to grasp the off energy. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| And I think watching a little bit of it might be helpful for people just to get a sense of, like, The lack of connection that's going on. | ||
| But I think it still comes across. | ||
| I think that when Roseanne is talking about her vision and then Alex interrupts her, that kind of is... | ||
| Maybe encapsulate some of the non-connection that's happening. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If you are listening to this and you would like to know more about the non-connection, let's refer you to the video. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| If not, then you're good. | ||
| Anyway, I washed my hands of this and we'll be back for another episode at another point. | ||
| But until then, Jordan, we have a website. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And we're on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| Yep, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZXClark. | ||
| Someone said I should have said this at our second live show. | ||
| And I agree. | ||
| I should have said at the end of that list of names, I'm a demon. | ||
| I did a bad version of that. | ||
| Alex and his friends did it better. | ||
| I can't even hit the button because I'm so ashamed of myself. | ||
| And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. |
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