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March 2, 2023 - Knowledge Fight
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#782: February 26, 2023

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on Alex's present day antics before heading off for Milwaukee.  In this installment, Alex spends a lot of time talking about how much he liked SNL this week and how Cenk Uygur wants to steal his cat for unholy reasons.

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
16:12
d
dan friesen
42:36
j
jordan holmes
24:57
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Clips
o
owen shroyer
00:34
s
steve quayle
00:02
w
woody harrelson
00:39
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andy in kansas
00:00
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Dan and Jordan.
unidentified
Knowledge fight.
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
It's time to pray.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
Knowledge Fight.
Knowledge Fight dot com.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fright.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes.
We like to cough.
jordan holmes
Sorry, sorry.
alex jones
Right up the gate with a cough.
jordan holmes
Oh, I'm so sorry.
dan friesen
Well, we also like to worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones when we're not coughing.
jordan holmes
When we're not ruining the entire show and bringing it to a halt.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Apologies.
dan friesen
It's all right.
You flew it down the wrong pipe.
jordan holmes
It did.
It just went all the way to the wrong town.
Yes, Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
I have a quick question for you, sir.
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot today, Jordan.
We are recording this and we're releasing it on Thursday instead of Friday this week because we'll be in Milwaukee for live shows at the X-Ray Arcade.
Famous X-Ray Arcade.
jordan holmes
Famous X-Ray Arcade.
dan friesen
Very excited about that and I just didn't want to think about needing to release an episode while we're there.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
Just experience the time.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so this bright spot is maybe a little bit of a non-bright spot, but also a bright spot.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay, like maintain spot.
dan friesen
So tonight we're doing the Thursday show.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And I had planned something spectacular.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I was gonna get a cameo for you as a way to open up the show.
It was gonna be the best.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
CT is on cameo.
From the Real World Road Rules Challenge.
jordan holmes
Oh no!
Did he reject your cameo request?
unidentified
He did!
jordan holmes
No!
CT!
Oh no!
I watched you in the remake of the World's Most Dangerous Game!
Come on, CT!
dan friesen
I even included in my request, we're both big fans.
Which isn't actually even true.
I'm not a huge fan of his anymore.
jordan holmes
I don't think I'm a fan of his.
dan friesen
You love him.
jordan holmes
I enjoy the character he plays on TV, but in real life, I don't know if I...
dan friesen
I think I might have screwed up because I asked him to include as an inside joke calling you a little loser titty baby.
That would have been great.
jordan holmes
That would have been great.
dan friesen
I don't want to get involved with this.
jordan holmes
I don't want that on my thing.
That'll go on the internet.
People will say I'm CT the little loser titty baby guy.
dan friesen
I get it.
And so that is not happening, although I had made a request.
I was ready to make it happen.
TJ Lavin is also on there.
I considered doing that, but he is out of the price range.
He's a little bit too expensive.
jordan holmes
No, of course he is.
And I don't know how many words he can say at the same time.
dan friesen
He might be asking too much.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
Several thousand dollars?
dan friesen
No, a couple hundred, but still too much.
jordan holmes
That's too much.
dan friesen
Not even close to the person who I think is asking way too much.
And that is Project Pat, the rapper.
Project Pat.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
How much?
dan friesen
$650 for a Project Pat cameo.
jordan holmes
Here's what I like about that.
dan friesen
Unless it's a guest verse, I don't know if that's worth it.
jordan holmes
Here's what I like about that, okay?
Chances you're going to get 10 cameos if you're at Project Pat.
Low.
Low.
So you don't want to charge $60 per?
dan friesen
I disagree.
jordan holmes
$600?
That's barely nothing.
Chances you'll get one cameo?
Fairly good.
dan friesen
I think you could get quite a few.
I think a lot of people love Chickenhead.
A lot of people love Getty Green.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
Bowlers, we be on some twanky twankies.
jordan holmes
I think we need to get in contact with him to see what his numbers are and see if we can improve his interactions.
dan friesen
I think it's going to cost $650 to get in touch with him to find out.
jordan holmes
I think he owes us $650 to try and maximize his viewership.
dan friesen
I honestly think he definitely lost a sale from me because...
I would have probably, if it was considerably cheaper, bought one.
It's not like Project Pat.
I grew up on that hypnotized minds, 3.6, mafia kind of world.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But also, I was considering...
jordan holmes
$6.50 is too much.
dan friesen
Here's a question that I had also, while I was going through Cameo, trying to find something to play as a surprise for you at the live show.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
Is Peter North a well enough known person that it would actually have an effect?
Like the legendary porn star Peter North?
jordan holmes
Okay, I was like, here's the problem with me.
First thought I had, for some reason, went straight to Elijah Wood in the movie North.
Don't ask me why that happened.
Second thought I had, the guy who comes a lot?
dan friesen
He's on cameo.
jordan holmes
Two very diametrically opposed thoughts to have back to back.
dan friesen
So apparently he is well known enough that it would, you know.
It'd be recognizable.
jordan holmes
I would say he's recognizable to most, if not all.
dan friesen
Yeah, I had a real difficult...
Anyway, CT ruined everything.
Once again.
jordan holmes
Once again.
dan friesen
Classic Captain Nuthugger.
Anyway, what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is, I mean, you know, barring the obvious, considering what will be happening later on this evening as you listen to this, my bright spot is The Mandalorian!
It returns!
It returns from the depths of the Book of Boba Fett to once again be not a shitty show.
dan friesen
Grogu!
jordan holmes
Grogu's back, baby!
Yep.
dan friesen
I don't know much references.
I know that Luke Skywalker showed up last season, right?
jordan holmes
He did.
It was pretty exciting.
Made me cry a little bit.
dan friesen
Spoilers.
jordan holmes
No, it was fine.
I talked about it on the show.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, it's true.
Grogu, I know that is a reference.
jordan holmes
For sure.
dan friesen
I know that Werner Herzog was on it, right?
jordan holmes
He was.
He was.
First season.
dan friesen
But he's gone now.
jordan holmes
He was horribly...
He was tragic.
dan friesen
Oh.
jordan holmes
I mean, he was a bad guy and he was murdered.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Okay.
I don't know much else.
I mean, I guess there's a lot of people who look like Boba Fett.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep.
They're all the Mandalorian.
dan friesen
Right.
And they're Fetts?
Is it all the Fett family?
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Because Jango Fett was a Mandalorian.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
Then after Mandalore fell, Jango becomes a bounty hunter.
dan friesen
So Mandalorian is like an alien race?
jordan holmes
Mandalore is the name of a planet.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
The leader of which is named Mand-alore.
The people of whom are called Mandalorians.
Their creed?
Mandalore.
dan friesen
So it's not like a job.
jordan holmes
They have a very specific name for everything.
It is one thing.
dan friesen
And they're all bounty hunters?
jordan holmes
You know, no.
But maybe?
I guess.
You know, it is...
dan friesen
They all wear that cool hat?
jordan holmes
They suffer from...
They do all wear the cool hat.
They suffer from classic sci-fi brain, which says, well, if we've got one of them, I guess everybody does the same job.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
Yeah, it worked that time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're all bounty hunters now.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Everybody from this planet, I could develop a unique and diverse group of people, or you could all be bounty hunters, and this is the bounty hunter planet.
dan friesen
So, other than Luke Skywalker, do we get some good, fun Star Wars cameras?
Cameos?
Like, do we get a Jar Jar?
Do we get a Boston?
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
So this is...
dan friesen
Do we get a Bib Fortuna?
jordan holmes
This is all Dave Fulani's world, alright?
Now, way back when, this guy was only in the cartoons.
He was only doing the Clone Wars.
He was doing the 3D cartoons that you'd see on Nickelodeon.
dan friesen
Sure, sure.
jordan holmes
Then over time, they were like, how about you run...
All of Star Wars.
Loki, you run all of Star Wars.
dan friesen
Whoa, he runs Loki too?
jordan holmes
Loki and all of Star Wars.
dan friesen
Well, it is all Disney, right?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I guess it could have a crossover.
jordan holmes
So there's like the movies, right?
And then there's everything else.
And it's basically under the control of this one dude and Jon Favreau.
So yeah, so that entire universe is all filled with like Ahsoka Tano.
That's a character that started in the Clone Wars cartoon 30 years ago, 20 years ago or something like that.
And now...
She's showing up as Rosario Dawson in a live-action thing.
Right?
It's all this one dude.
dan friesen
So wait, Jon Favreau's deeply involved in running the Star Wars stuff?
jordan holmes
He's deeply involved in running the Star Wars stuff.
dan friesen
Wait a second.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Wow.
What a rise.
jordan holmes
I know.
For him?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
For him.
Think about that.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
Swingers.
jordan holmes
Swingers.
From swingers to running Star Wars.
dan friesen
We should all dream.
jordan holmes
I don't know if we can.
No one should dream that big.
dan friesen
Dream big.
jordan holmes
If you dream that big, you're probably going to become a serial killer.
You gotta, like, ease into that.
That's gotta be an accident.
dan friesen
But you gotta know that it's possible.
jordan holmes
It is possible.
dan friesen
I guess.
jordan holmes
Don't dream big, but dream that dreams may come true.
dan friesen
Jon Favreau has proven that it's possible.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Okay, well, we've spent a lot of time on various bright spots, so let's get down to business, Jordan.
Today we have an episode to go over.
This is February 26th, 2023.
Alex has been out of studio quite a bit, which has led to a bit of chaos, quite frankly.
That sounds right.
I've had very little of him to go over outside of him showing up and yelling at Owen or Harrison while they're hosting.
jordan holmes
That's fun.
dan friesen
It's not as fun as you want.
And then, the worst laid plans of my life have fallen apart.
jordan holmes
So many big dreams.
dan friesen
This 2003-2004 Dean Scream, getting to that for the live show, such a terrible plan on my part.
Because, get this, he doesn't cover it.
jordan holmes
Doesn't cover it all.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Not even a little bit.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Not even once.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
The biggest thing that happened in politics that year.
dan friesen
Well, I don't know about that.
jordan holmes
I mean, as far as I remember.
dan friesen
Shit got really boring for a stretch.
Like, we got through a lot because of the holidays and stuff that's not even worth covering.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Then I get to past the 19th, which is when the scream happens.
unidentified
When the scream happens.
dan friesen
The 20th, 21st.
Nothing.
No coverage of it.
And so I'm like, okay, we can't do this for the live show, and now I don't have anything from this 2003-2004 stretch to cover.
So I was left in a lurch.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it makes the breakneck pace with which we attacked it seem kind of silly in retrospect.
dan friesen
Quite silly.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I was telling my friend Angela Lampsbury about this, and she was like, oh wow, I thought you were planning this backwards.
I thought you knew the destination and you were working.
I was like, well, yeah, that's probably how I should have done it.
jordan holmes
Excuse me, ma 'am.
You have not listened to our 800-episode-long show before, have you?
dan friesen
In hindsight, if I ever do this again like that, I will do that.
jordan holmes
No, that makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
But I completely whiffed and had to find something new to go over for the live shows.
jordan holmes
Well, you know.
dan friesen
But we did find something.
And so anyway, this is my way of saying that we're not going to talk about the Dean screen.
And 2004 episodes have been just nothing for a while.
So I don't have a 2004 episode to go over.
But thankfully, on Saturday, or Sunday, I think this is Sunday, Alex came in, didn't come in.
He's on video.
jordan holmes
He's on video.
dan friesen
And he sounds like shit.
The audio is terrible.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He is in a weird room somewhere.
jordan holmes
They dismantled his home Alex Jones live studio.
dan friesen
Either he's on vacation again.
jordan holmes
Again.
dan friesen
Or he's in a law office somewhere.
Or a holding cell.
I don't know.
It's bad.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You'll hear it.
It's not great.
But we do get to learn about his cat.
Which is something that I think a lot of people have been curious about.
And some other issues.
jordan holmes
Wait, wasn't the cat discussion we had from the 2003 era?
dan friesen
It definitely was.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
So this is a new cat, right?
It is.
Okay, thank God.
dan friesen
He had that cat that he hated, and now he has a cat...
jordan holmes
Do you mean he had that wife that he hated?
dan friesen
Same thing.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
But he has this new cat.
New wife.
It's apparently very expensive.
A very expensive cat.
And in the bankruptcy proceedings, they were shocked to find him claiming it as a $2,000 asset or something.
jordan holmes
Ah!
dan friesen
And so he's trying to make a big deal out of how the government wants to take his cat away.
And they made a video of himself holding the cat, and it's this giant fucking ragdoll cat.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
It's very cute.
It's a delightful cat.
jordan holmes
It's a cute cat.
dan friesen
But it's all just a very desperate plea for attention and for people to see him as a victim.
Like, won't you think of my poor daughter who loves her cat?
He's not going to take your cat.
jordan holmes
No one's taking your cat.
You're the one who listed your cat as an item to be taken.
You're the weird one here.
No one else would even think to put their cat on their bankruptcy filing.
dan friesen
It's an expensive-ass cat, though.
jordan holmes
That's an expensive cat.
dan friesen
So we'll get down to business on this here episode, but first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, I was told that this is where I go to get verified on Twitter.
Is that not right?
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
No, it's not right.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Next, 6 '5 Howard Dean is not real and cannot hurt you.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Next, as someone who is in ABBA's much less popular musical chess in college, Dan's rendition of One Night in Bangkok was so absolutely flawless I paused the episode to become a policy wonk.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Tire flies.
dan friesen
Doesn't seem a minute.
jordan holmes
Dan, I always knew that your singing was going to eventually launch us into the next level, but I didn't know when or what it was going to take, and it was ABBA.
It was ABBA.
dan friesen
But I don't think...
ABBA, did they have another musical called Chess?
Because I don't think the musical Chess that I'm talking about was ABBA, because that's Murray Head, baby.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I don't know.
Anything about chess.
dan friesen
Since we last recorded, have you spent one night in Bangkok?
jordan holmes
I have absolutely not.
I remain virginal.
I remain untouched by the corruption of your ears.
dan friesen
I would know if you had spent one night in Bangkok.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
Because it makes the tough guys tumble.
jordan holmes
I know.
I would walk in here with weak knees.
dan friesen
Can't be too careful with your company.
Next, I've listened to over 100 episodes and only just figured out that the name Knowledge Fight is based on InfoWars, as in knowledge equals info.
And fight equals wars, and it's really affected my confidence, and I don't feel like I deserve to be a policy wonk.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
I get that a lot, actually.
That people don't get the name.
I think it's funny, sort of, but also it's a stupid name.
jordan holmes
No, that's the thing.
I appreciate that they feel like it's upon them to have failed in some way, when in reality, the name came from two people who thought that this podcast was going to last maybe six months.
dan friesen
Tops.
Brain Battle might have been a better name in terms of the alliteration.
jordan holmes
The alliteration, but you know, hearing it back now, Brain Battle sounds kind of dumb.
dan friesen
I think that's what, like, didn't Stephen Colbert go with that?
jordan holmes
I think he did.
dan friesen
For his Tuck Buckley?
jordan holmes
Yeah, it didn't last long.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there we go.
dan friesen
Did do 800 episodes of that, did you?
jordan holmes
Did do 800 episodes of that shit, huh?
dan friesen
Suck it, Colbert.
jordan holmes
Go take the Tonight Show over.
dan friesen
Or do the State of the Union press-correspondent dinner, you prick.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Get him!
dan friesen
Anyway, we're going to start off here today with Alex talking about something positive.
unidentified
Well, that's good.
dan friesen
He's in a good mood about something, and it's comedy-based.
unidentified
Oh!
alex jones
There's thousands of examples of this, but humanity's really learning through the internet.
jordan holmes
Wow, this is bad.
alex jones
Just ten years ago, almost no one knew about the New World Order.
Twenty years ago, a tiny bit compared to that.
Thirty years ago, forty years ago, maybe one-tenth of one percent.
Now, in major polls around the world, the most unpopular groups are the globalists, Hollywood, and all the major corporations they control.
And then Woody Harrelson, guaranteed, because I know people that work at Saturday Night Live, one of them that have worked at Saturday Night Live, I know all about the inner workings of Saturday Night Live, and everything they say is heavily scripted, heavily controlled.
That's why Dave Chappelle, when he came out and talked about Kanye West and said some things they didn't like, went off script.
And they got very, very upset.
Well, you talk about going off script, Woody Harrelson, who I know personally, been friends with a long time, haven't talked to him for years, We've done some work together and talked a lot about it in the past.
I know he's basically a daily listener.
And Woody's a smart cookie.
His dad, obviously, very, very interesting fellow.
I'll leave it at that.
But he knows all about the deep state.
And he came out on Saturday Night Live last night.
I'm not going to play the full monologue.
The full monologue is on Infowars.com.
And said, man, I'm thinking of a fictional movie where drug dealers, drug cartels, we're talking about big pharma here, make you buy a drug and make you stay locked in your house to take it.
So, again, these are direct attacks.
These are glitches in the matrix.
These are people across the board knowing that the new world is going to destroy them and their families so they don't fight back against it.
And we're seeing this intense fall all the time.
Very important clip.
Here it is.
unidentified
Okay, so the movie goes like this.
woody harrelson
The biggest drug cartels in the world get together.
And buy up all the media and all the politicians and force all the people in the world to stay locked in their homes and people can only come out if they take the cartel's drugs and keep taking them over and over.
jordan holmes
I threw the script away.
unidentified
I mean, who is going to believe that crazy idea?
dan friesen
You might notice that there's not a lot of laughter.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
I think everybody got exactly where you were going and went, ugh.
dan friesen
Yeah, and it's also the punchline's cut off, but we'll get to that here in a minute.
But I would say from the standpoint of comedy, it's at best a sloppy monologue, but Woody Harrelson's a pretty charismatic dude, so he's talking about smoking a lot of weed and stuff.
He's very clearly on script, and you can tell because...
There's, like, pre-made graphics.
He's talking about how, like...
jordan holmes
He's going off script, and he's like, hey, by the way, put number four up on the screen!
dan friesen
Right.
He's talking about how he was smoking a joint in New York, and he had brought it from California.
He's like, I didn't bring it from California.
My manager did.
And then he's like, and he's here tonight!
So they show his manager, and then there's a chyron at the bottom.
It's like, brought drugs to New York.
jordan holmes
There you go.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's all very much...
On the rails, as it were.
jordan holmes
You have an actor doing the monologue.
You have his monologue written for him.
dan friesen
Yeah, and he doesn't do a terrible job or anything, although it feels a little bit weird because at two points during the monologue, he says that it's his fifth time hosting SNL and the whole five-timers club thing.
So he pretends someone's going to put a jacket on him and no one comes.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And the audience, I don't know if they know how to feel about that.
jordan holmes
They were like, wait, shouldn't Steve Martin be coming out and giving him a jacket right now?
dan friesen
It doesn't feel right, because it does feel disrespectful to Woody Harrelson that they made such a big deal.
jordan holmes
You've said the Five Timers Club is a thing.
You have to adhere to it now.
You were the ones who made it a thing.
It's not Woody's fault.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But Woody's obviously making some kind of a joke, but the audience is confused.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, I think there's some failings.
jordan holmes
Some bad choices.
dan friesen
And because his monologue is largely about how he smokes a ton of weed and drinks a lot, it's kind of meandering, maybe by...
jordan holmes
By design.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's what you would expect.
dan friesen
It fits that character.
jordan holmes
The whole show went downhill once Castillo left.
That's what I have to say.
Once Castillo left, the whole thing was shit.
dan friesen
Also, I would say that they are not notorious for staying strictly on...
jordan holmes
No, Jimmy Fallon made a career out of being terrible.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, those were many years ago.
Like, it would be tough for me to use an example like Will Ferrell's bad doctor sketch.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That was not rigidly...
jordan holmes
Anything they did in the hot tub, I think, was...
dan friesen
Anything Will Ferrell did.
jordan holmes
Basically, yeah.
dan friesen
But yeah, it's also...
Alex is kind of ignoring the part in Woody's monologue where he describes himself as an anarchist and a Marxist.
But, you know, Woody Harrelson is somebody who's been anti-vaccine mitigation measures, largely because of his anarchism.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
He comes from a place of, like, no state control.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Now, that said, he does also have some pretty dumb conspiracy ideas.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean...
dan friesen
I don't think he listens to Alex every day, though.
jordan holmes
I don't think that anyone should...
And, I mean, maybe I'm the one who's mistaken his public persona for his entire life.
But I feel like people recognize this is not the guy to take advice from on anything.
dan friesen
And it almost feels like he understands that too.
unidentified
Yeah!
jordan holmes
He's having a great time with it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Also, his dad was a murderer.
jordan holmes
Okay, see, I didn't know that part.
His dad was a murderer?
What?
dan friesen
His dad went to jail for killing a judge.
jordan holmes
Okay!
Okay, what?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
His dad went to jail for killing a judge?
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So that's what Alex says, that his dad is an interesting character.
jordan holmes
That's an interesting character.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
That's not not interesting.
jordan holmes
That's not not it.
No.
I mean, accuracy is important.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex is thinking about, you know, Hollywood.
He's thinking about how he's best friends with Woody Harrelson now.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And he has some things to say about his time working on Scanner Darkly that I just can't believe.
alex jones
Okay.
So I can tell you that I got invited to be in a few movies without really even asking and got to know a lot of Hollywood folks like Woody Harrelson and John Reeves and really many, many others.
And they were awake to the New World Order.
Take that, Junior.
Take that, Junior.
jordan holmes
Iron Man.
alex jones
I was also a consultant on the film, kind of updating Philip K. Dick's book.
Updating?
jordan holmes
What now?
alex jones
They were really, really awake back then.
So that's why I know Woody Harrelson's so awake, and I know him through Woody Harrelson and some other folks.
But it's not about name-dropping.
It's about the fact that I knew that Woody Harrelson was awake so long ago.
dan friesen
Alex did a cameo in the movie.
He didn't, like, punch up the script.
He wasn't a script advisor.
jordan holmes
He was a consultant.
He gave it a one-over.
dan friesen
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
He was on set for half a day.
jordan holmes
Tops.
dan friesen
He's not like sitting around the whole time they're shooting.
jordan holmes
It's not about quantity, Dan.
Unbelievable.
It's about quality.
It's about quality.
Sure, you could have been on the film for months, but what you learned in those few hours of Alex being on set influenced the entirety of the movie.
dan friesen
Fucking Star-Lord over here.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Unreal.
Wow.
What kind of...
unidentified
Disrespectful to the people who actually adapted the screenplay.
jordan holmes
I updated Philip K. Dick.
What's the book about?
dan friesen
Also, Robert Downey Jr. was probably deeply into drugs at this point.
jordan holmes
That might be a little rude.
That makes sense.
dan friesen
I thought he was a piece of shit.
jordan holmes
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if he acted like an asshole.
That's kind of what he did.
dan friesen
So, you may remember our last present day episode, I believe, we covered Alex talking about how the nukes are right around the corner.
It'll take five minutes for Russia to destroy all of the Americas.
jordan holmes
They got their subs right off the coast.
dan friesen
Shit was bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
We weren't going to survive for the week, at least.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Things are different now.
jordan holmes
Things are different.
They're fine now?
dan friesen
Did the submarines go away?
Looks like we're winning.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
alex jones
I can, with great confidence and analysis, tell you that we've reached another major milestone.
It was last January, about 13 and a half months ago, in 2022, that I said, studying the topography of the media landscape, not sure in the U.S., but worldwide.
And the numbers I'm seeing and the different talk show hosts I see coming out against COVID fly and the poison shots and big pharma and the lockdowns, that they're going to lose not just their current push for forced injections and worldwide ID cards and cashless societies.
They're not just going to lose on their forced injections.
They're going to lose on the whole thing if we just keep pushing.
It's kind of like you get in a fight, the guy starts to fight, he punches you.
You hit him really hard, break his nose, knock him down, and you kind of wait and see if he gets back up.
But if he starts getting back up, you just go ahead and kick him in the face a couple times or maybe break a couple ribs and he'll be out of commission.
jordan holmes
What are you doing?
alex jones
And that's the analogy I'm using in a nonviolent way for the New World Order.
about 13 months ago, broke their nose really bad and knocked them down.
And they are getting back up.
So politically, nonviolently, we've got to move in.
Get a good kick into the end of the jaw.
They keep getting up.
Got to go ahead and start stomping the ribs.
And that's just what you got to do.
So that's where we are, ladies and gentlemen.
And we got to press the attack 110%.
So let me make the new announcement.
Let me make the big announcement here.
jordan holmes
The new announcement.
alex jones
It's 100% down on.
The chain reaction has been achieved.
Not just on the poison shots, not just on the lockdowns.
It was their big gamble to use that to get full control of us.
And only in places like China were they able to get a lot of it done.
But you notice Xi Jinping as a test did a whole squeeze again last year, and it caused an explosion across.
What?
So he's being basically told and working with the globalists that China will be the leader of the New World Order if he can successfully get his population out of their control.
But notice he failed that task.
dan friesen
Yeah, so the Patriots are winning again, and they all have to break some ribs or whatever if the globalists try to get back up.
And honestly, at this point in the episode and throughout, the only thing I can point to is that Woody Harrelson...
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Said some interpretively anti-vax stuff on Saturday Night Live.
That's the justification for, like, the globalists are on the run.
The chain reaction has started.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I appreciate that the audio quality reminds me of something that the French resistance might have broadcast during the occupation, if you will.
dan friesen
If Alex had more meaningful things to say, he could probably try and do something that harkens to that.
jordan holmes
It is a little bit like that, but if they were talking about their movie reviews, you know, like, oh, the Germans are killing us all, blah, blah, blah, blah, but have you heard about the new Reef& Stock film?
dan friesen
Yeah, but it would be more trivial.
jordan holmes
It would be more trivial.
Well, yes.
dan friesen
It would be some kind of disposable weekly content that's topical.
I'm just...
I'm blown away.
jordan holmes
I want him...
See, here's what I want.
Because the moment he said 13 months ago, I immediately turned it into, like, it was 13 months ago this night that we punched them in the nose and broke it.
It was 13 days ago this day that we pushed them out and forced them into the window.
It was 13 hours ago this hour!
You know, like, I want that.
dan friesen
Wasn't it 13 months ago that he said the invasion of Ukraine would last a day or two?
jordan holmes
It was somewhere around there, yeah.
It was almost exactly 13 months ago.
dan friesen
Yeah.
This guy's not good at...
He wasn't doing good 13 months ago.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
It's not his best work.
dan friesen
So I've long been of the opinion that Alex Jones is a great example of somebody who's indoctrinated into very extreme beliefs at a young age.
And then pretends that it's open-mindedness that led him to this, like, I researched all of these points and it turns out this is right, when in reality, he's just an extremist who has never challenged his own worldview in any meaningful way.
He's more sheltered in his perspectives and opinions than...
Most anybody who lives in a city.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, he's a little bit like, what if the Twilight Zone episode where the kid got everything he wanted, just grew up and never faced any consequences at all?
dan friesen
Right.
And I think a lot of people might say that, no, he's all over the place.
But in this next clip, I think you kind of get the sense that maybe he is discussing childhood indoctrination into an extremist worldview.
jordan holmes
Hey.
alex jones
I want to thank you all for joining us on this Live Sunday edition.
I want you to listen to me very, very carefully.
I have been blessed by God to have your support.
I've been blessed by God to have a great family that educated me how the world worked when I was very, very young.
And we have a mission here, all of us together.
So when I say these things, again, it's not about cutting my horn.
The fact that I know the enemy so well and just instinctively, nine times out of ten, can estimate what they're going to do better than anybody else.
It's a blessing, but it's also a curse because they hate my guts, ladies and gentlemen.
And they've done major Pentagon investigations, major CIA investigations, major FBI investigations into me trying to figure out what agency or foreign group is telling me what to say.
And now they know that it's coming from me.
And they know that I am like the equivalent of their top Pentagon futurist.
But what I do is I study what the globalists are doing and I'm against them.
dan friesen
From a really young age, his parents taught him all of this stuff, all of this nonsense, and other family members.
And because of that, he has an ingrained ability to intuit what the enemy is going to do.
It's almost like a superpower that he has because of all of this shit that's been nailed into his head as a youth.
I feel...
I mean, not really.
I hate him.
But for a different person who wasn't him who had experienced this sort of thing, I would feel bad for that person.
They were not dealt with responsibly as children.
jordan holmes
Yeah, what I see is, I'm writing a movie in my head, and it's a solid movie, alright?
So you've got this guy, always, no consequences, etc., etc., always believes in himself, right?
Grateful, loves his family, all those things, right?
Finally is laid low.
Finally recognizes that he himself needs to go to therapy.
And then the therapist starts getting into it.
And there's the big climax where he goes like...
Oh, shit, my dad wasn't a good influence on my life.
And it all makes sense to him.
Like, there's a beautiful mind graphics, and he's figuring out that, sure, all of his wealth, but also all of his misery came from his dad.
Like, he doesn't even know what's going on at all.
It would be Shakespearean in its tragedy.
dan friesen
And then he would politically stab the therapist.
unidentified
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
I was thinking, and then he would trip and fall off the edge of a cliff, and everybody's like, no, finally, we feel bad for this guy.
It takes a lot to get there.
It's a tough movie to sell.
dan friesen
Yeah, and someone like Alex is tough to find pathos for.
That's why you kind of have to abstract it to somebody else who isn't him.
jordan holmes
100% a movie.
dan friesen
Describing this, I'd feel really bad.
Because if you take him at his word, he's saying that, I don't know, you had this shit beat into your head at a young age, and it made you have instinctual knowledge.
You don't have, because he's wrong all the time.
He's pretending that I can instinctually tell what the enemy is going to do, but if he did think that, he should challenge that assumption by keeping a track record.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
He's been wrong across the board.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You'd have to then realize you do not have an ability to intuit what other people are going to do, or your imaginary enemies are going to do.
And your parents led you astray and just brought you up in an extreme right-wing, nonsensical world.
jordan holmes
No, it's one of the great classic tropes to be the person who is brainwashed into a fascist world, who sees everything through the point of view of like, no, we're helping people.
We're the good guys here.
And then when challenged outside of the propaganda sphere, they come to the realization that no, we are not in fact the good guys.
This would be like if Alex went out and saw everything and was like, Man, you know what?
Actually, we are the bad guys.
That's fucking great.
I love it.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, consider how much he's built up around himself to allow himself to never have to have those challenges.
And you'd think that maybe this kind of a court battle or whatever would provide some kind of...
Recognition on his part of what he's actually involved in, how serious this is.
But no, he just can come up with rationalizations for any kind of negative consequence.
And then, of course, consequences mean that you're on the right track.
Whether those ideas were influenced by his parents or his family or not, he's just...
Down a path that reinforces the worst conclusions.
Yeah!
And there's no end to it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, in Star Wars terms, to think of it this way, you know, you've got your Darth Vader, right?
Not beyond redemption.
He's still got it.
It's still there.
Emperor?
Guess what?
Emperor's going down the shaft.
Emperor's beyond...
You throw the Emperor down the shaft.
You don't ask questions.
He's shooting lightning.
You don't be like, maybe we can help this guy.
No.
Fuck the Emperor, right?
dan friesen
Have you noticed that Alex does Emperor impressions all the time?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I have noticed that.
Yes, I have.
dan friesen
Not a coincidence.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex wants to talk more about Woody Harrelson.
alex jones
Here's Woody Harrelson, last night on Saturday Night Live.
Again, they normally have approved scripts, just like Dave Chappelle.
It's going to come out, he went off script, where he comes out and attacks NBC's top show, Saturday Night Live, that...
Their main sponsor is Pfizer.
The second largest sponsor is Moderna.
But despite that, Woody Harrelson got up there, fed them what he was going to say, and then live on TV, hit them in the cold open.
And that took courage, and it took focus, and it took will for him to do that and to basically expose how a drug cartel took control of our world, locked us in our houses and tried to make us take their drug that didn't get us high, but that destroyed our immune system and made us sick.
dan friesen
So that's an entirely made-up story that Alex just imagined.
The whole story Alex is telling has no connection to reality.
It's just the heroic storyline that Alex gets excited about, and he knows that he can sell to his audience super easily.
What Woody did wasn't off-script, and if you watch the full monologue, it was a bit of a jab at the pharmaceutical companies, but it wasn't some big anti-vax stand, and Woody wasn't exposing that the shots are poison or any of that bullshit.
It's important to also recognize that in order for Alex to make these arguments work that he's doing, he has to selectively edit Woody's monologue.
Here's where the clip cuts off every time Alex plays it.
woody harrelson
And people can only come out if they take the cartel's drugs and keep taking them over and over.
jordan holmes
I threw the script away.
unidentified
I mean, who is gonna believe that crazy idea?
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
So, interestingly, that isn't the end of Woody's joke.
There's still a punchline that's left to come.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And actually, the next line, the last line, kind of ruins Alex's entire point.
So here is that.
unidentified
The biggest drug cartels in the world get together.
woody harrelson
And buy up all the media and all the politicians and force all the people in the world to stay locked in their homes.
And people can only come out if they take the cartel's drugs and keep taking them over and over.
jordan holmes
I threw the script away.
unidentified
I mean, who is going to believe that crazy idea of being forced to do drugs?
I do that voluntarily all day long.
dan friesen
When you omit the last line, you take away some of the meaning of Woody's joke, which is why Alex plays the edited version.
With the last line included, it becomes a lot harder for Alex to sell the audience this bold anti-vax stance because really what Woody was saying is that no one would need to make him take a vaccine because he would take it willingly, as he does with a bunch of drugs.
Anyway, Alex is playing an edited clip of Woody Harrelson's Saturday Night Live monologue, and that seems to be one of the major reasons he thinks the globalists are on the ropes.
This is really dumb, but not surprising at all.
jordan holmes
I threw that script away!
Because I fucking love vaccines!
I put vaccines in my body on the daily every morning!
I wish I had more places!
I have to inject between my toes!
I've got so many vaccines in me right now!
I love vaccines!
dan friesen
I'm shooting up in my dick vein.
jordan holmes
He like turns around, there's a needle out of the back of his neck.
dan friesen
Just the big sign that says vaccine.
jordan holmes
Yes, absolutely.
dan friesen
I think that he said some pretty dumb things as it relates to vaccine stuff.
I kind of disagree with him somewhat, but I get where his opposition to mandates comes from, from his anarchist perspective.
Strongly disagree, but I think it's different than Alex's perspective, for sure.
And I think that that joke was kind of dumb.
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Wasn't well?
Wasn't well written or very well performed?
dan friesen
But it's also, I don't know.
jordan holmes
But it's Woody Harrelson.
Who fucking cares?
dan friesen
I don't really.
jordan holmes
I just don't care.
I just don't care anymore about what SNL says about anything.
I was sent this morning.
My dad sent me a Fox News article about, because Lori Lightfoot is no longer the Chicago mayor.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
We're all stoked.
Everybody's happy.
Whatever.
dan friesen
Wow.
We'll see how the runoff goes.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Well, you know, we're all happy for the short period of time when we don't technically have a mayor.
That's when Chicago's at its...
dan friesen
Anarchy.
jordan holmes
We finally blossom into the beautiful city that we could be.
dan friesen
Someone camp out on the bridges.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Make sure they can't pull them up.
jordan holmes
Make sure they can't pull them up again.
But it is like, the whole article is based around some tweet that some dumb lady put out.
Like, I don't care!
That's not, I don't care!
I'm not doing it.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I think that Twitter is such a good thing that allows us to get information around, but also, I don't know.
Why pay attention to stuff that you, like, would you, Would you ever care about Saturday Night Live monologues if someone else didn't try and make you care?
jordan holmes
I literally replied with, if there weren't any journalists around to exploit this tweet, would anyone care?
dan friesen
If this tweet fell in a forest.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
This is 100% we accidentally gave all of journalism a lazy button where they just get to be like...
Boom!
My work's done for today.
dan friesen
Now, that's not to say that some things that happen on Saturday Night Live can't be offensive.
Sure.
I think that Dave Chappelle's recent thing was, that maybe merits a little bit of conversation.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But this one, I don't really feel...
I feel like this is like him...
Complaining about something that happened on real time with Bill Maher.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I just don't care.
jordan holmes
We need a large flashing light for innocuous whenever something like this happens, where it just flashes like, oh, I guess we don't care then.
unidentified
Moving on.
dan friesen
Yeah, but I agree with you, but also because I'm agreeing with you, I have to take back my use of Bill Maher, because I think some of that isn't innocuous.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, no, that's definitely sometimes hurtful.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But generally on the HBO version of his show, when Alex was...
That was trivial nonsense.
It does not matter at all.
Whereas, nowadays, Bill Maher's somehow worse.
jordan holmes
He's amazing.
Just a giant asshole.
dan friesen
So yeah, big times at Saturday Night Live.
I don't know...
I don't think Alex will probably bring this up again.
I think this is just a nice one-day thing.
jordan holmes
I assume that they...
He said they posted the clip on Bandop Video.
I imagine they cut out the part where the joke happens, right?
dan friesen
I didn't check, but I would assume so.
Yeah, you would have to.
I've heard him play it on his show a bit, and it's always that edited version.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would make sense.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But there's some actual news, I guess.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Some other news.
Alex has decided that the way the globalists are going to attack is infrastructure terrorism.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
They're going to bomb stuff and what have you.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I think he's trying to feed off the feelings about train derailments that have happened.
Certainly the food plant.
Maybe isn't as exciting anymore, but there's still the memory of it, the echo.
jordan holmes
Shouldn't we all be forced to stop for a moment, and before we get to go on, we have to stop and be like, wait, remember how we were all like, oh shit, food processors are on fire all the time, right?
Now we all lost our minds, now we've calmed down, let's move forward.
Okay, it's a few months later, we're fine.
dan friesen
We're not.
jordan holmes
Maybe next time, we don't let this happen again.
dan friesen
No, because it's happening again.
jordan holmes
Oh shit.
alex jones
There have been...
Thousand-plus percentile increases in oil refinery and gas processing center disasters.
jordan holmes
That's bad, because we're already out of diesel.
alex jones
But in Australia, in New Zealand, in Europe, in Western Europe, in the UK, in Central America, in South America, in Mexico.
And what happened Friday?
I looked it up.
If I could type this in.
Number of Pemex disasters.
Number of Pemex fires.
Look up.
What percentage of oil does Pemex supply to the U.S.?
What supply of refined gasoline does Pemex give the U.S. between 5% and 50% depending on the time?
And Mexico, that state-run oil and gas company, has been ramping up production during the Ukraine war in the last year.
And so under globalist pressure, they announced about a month ago they're going to cut production to the United States in 2023, which has now begun.
So a lot of people are saying, well, If three Pemex factories on Friday blew up, I mean, blew sky high, just like what you saw, but even bigger, much bigger than Ohio, if two in Mexico that mainly supply the United States blew sky high, and then one in Texas blew sky high all the same day, you look up Pemex disasters, they don't have one a year on average this big.
They'll have a small fire, one thing will blow up, but not, or they'll have one of their drilling facilities blow up.
There's a lot of that.
jordan holmes
You just said there's a lot of that.
That's a concern.
alex jones
Blowing sky freaking high on the same day.
That's the message.
And a lot of folks will say, well, that's probably the Russians because they're mad because Biden and the globalist blew up the Nord Stream pipeline last year.
Did the Russians cut off the Keystone pipeline?
Did the Russians shut down more than 2,000 spurs and sub-pipelines?
And dozens of major pipelines in the last two years?
Or 26 months?
No.
The globalists did.
dan friesen
Yeah, so the globalists are blowing up these Pemex facilities, apparently.
jordan holmes
So based on what Alex is saying, though, do you think some globalists tried messing with the drilling, and then after they succeeded a few times...
Oh, no!
After they succeeded a few times, everybody was like, no, man, this happens all the time.
We didn't even notice that you guys sabotaged things.
Drilling shit blows up.
All the time.
And nobody is concerned about that whatsoever.
dan friesen
Yeah, and Alex is saying there's a thousand percent increase.
That is just a completely made-up number.
He can't substantiate any of this.
jordan holmes
If you tell me that there's a thousand percent increase, right, and then you say that three is a huge amount.
dan friesen
Well, in one day.
jordan holmes
Okay, so three is a massive amount in one day.
dan friesen
So that would mean that there's a thousand in a year.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Right?
If the thousand increase, three a day, let's say, a thousand in a year.
jordan holmes
Well, a thousand percent, it's a polynomial, isn't it?
dan friesen
So there would be one tenth of a fire the year before.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly!
That's what it would have to be!
dan friesen
It doesn't work.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
So there were three fires at Pemex locations in one day.
That is true.
One of them at a refinery in Veracruz didn't even halt production.
It was just more of an inconvenience, although five people were injured.
There was a fire at one in Deer Park, Texas, but it was put out, and I don't believe there are any reported casualties or injuries at that one either.
There was another one at a different plant that was a storage facility in Veracruz, and that one was a bit more severe.
There's at least one fatality that I saw reported, and some people who are still missing from that.
That one is pretty bad.
And anytime there's a place that's involved in fuel and fire is involved, it's not scary.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
So I don't want to say that they're minor things, but they didn't blow sky high.
Alex is just exaggerating that shit.
jordan holmes
What do you even mean when you say something blew sky high, right?
What's the height?
dan friesen
Well, the sky.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
It's very sad, like this stuff, and I feel for the workers, but there isn't any evidence of malfeasance.
There are fires at Pemex locations fairly regularly.
Three in a day is a lot, I'll admit that, but it's Alex's job to prove that there's something more going on here than a coincidence, and he hasn't even tried to do that.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, he just said thousand percent.
dan friesen
He doesn't even realize that that's his responsibility if anyone wants to take these claims seriously.
jordan holmes
No, three of them happen in a day.
dan friesen
This is the same game plan that he had with the food plants and then the train derailments.
People are noticing something and paying attention to it.
So he's come up with a conspiracy narrative about it that fits into his worldview and helps use the current headlines to funnel people.
people into his revenue stream.
If Alex actually cared about any of these issues, he would be championing stricter regulation of these types of facilities, more rigid inspection regimes, and robust public funding to make sure these types of semi-avoidable problems happen as rarely as possible.
Yeah.
unidentified
Because quite frankly, some of this stuff is just a byproduct of the...
jordan holmes
You work with insanely dangerous and volatile shit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Some stuff, even you do your best, there's a chance that things can go wrong.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
You know what I'm saying.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
We should be more amazed at what we can control and more humble about what we can't.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
As opposed to being like, look at what we can do.
Nothing will ever go wrong!
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this is kind of interesting because...
It's nonsense, Alex's version of this.
But I wasn't really prepared for the specific conspiracy that he was going to lay out about this.
And it starts here.
alex jones
The facts are, and I was looking at the numbers earlier, I sent some of the articles to the crew, that just two years ago, Mexico was supplying about 5% of our oil.
It's been as high as 15%.
They're looking on a weekly basis.
Hundreds of millions of barrels a month.
To the United States.
And now, three of their plants have blown up.
Two in Mexico, two in the U.S. Ladies and gentlemen, put two and two together.
And understand, the only way the globals can attack us now is hundreds of food processing plants blowing up, factories blowing up.
I mean, it's 10, 15 a day.
It's all over the place.
And then the word goes out, Justice Department isn't enforcing arson inspection.
unidentified
They're not.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
What?
The Justice Department is like, hey, listen, we're not investigating fires this year.
dan friesen
That's news to the DOJ, I think, because they are.
jordan holmes
What a day at work that would be.
dan friesen
I think that that is Alex's way of trying to explain why there aren't criminal charges for these accidents that happen at places like an oil refinery or a food processing plant.
He's like, wait, this is sabotage, but why?
Because they've put open season on arson.
jordan holmes
They've put a stand-down order on all fire investigations.
dan friesen
Very dumb.
And so made up.
It's remarkable.
It's just the confidence with which he just makes things up.
It's beautiful.
jordan holmes
It is.
I mean, I have to ask the question.
So they send hundreds of barrels a month.
Is that a lot?
I feel like that's not as big as we might think it is.
Hundreds of barrels seems huge.
dan friesen
He's also fudging the numbers.
Right, right, right.
Historically, Mexico's a net.
Negative importing countries.
We import a net negative from them.
jordan holmes
They get more than we take it.
dan friesen
If any of this were at all true...
Canada would be where the fires were.
They'd be blowing up oil stuff in Canada.
jordan holmes
Right, because that's where we get way more oil from.
dan friesen
Way more.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm saying.
It doesn't make sense if it's only hundreds of barrels.
That's really not even putting a dent in things.
dan friesen
Not really.
And we export more oil to them than we take in.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that just means we'd have to give them more oil.
dan friesen
It's really, really stupid.
And he could do better if it was Canada, but unfortunately there isn't a Canadian oil company that has these fires that people have been posting viral stuff in conspiracy communities about, so he can't really make use of that.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So he has to go with this and use a really just a built-on sand-ass narrative.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I feel like this is...
dan friesen
It's just terrible.
jordan holmes
This is propelling towards a Black Mirror episode where the guy runs out of good conspiracies, so he winds up...
Hiring terrorists to cause bombing so he can cover them like so until he gets caught and it's a whole thing.
dan friesen
That's what the globalists would do.
jordan holmes
That's exactly what the globalists would do.
dan friesen
Alex has a false flag for news.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
So anyway, the DOJ not charging people with arson.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Turns out, quite a big piece of news.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
So, they also have not been doing inspections or investigations or any charges for arson.
So these owners of companies get the word.
The deep state doesn't have to blow them up.
Hey, the word is you can just blow this factory up and get the insurance money.
The companies do it, wink, wink, and then there's less food and water and energy and everything collapses and goes to hell.
There's ways to stop this.
We'll talk about it when we come back.
dan friesen
Well, that's dumb.
jordan holmes
Insurance is not a long-term business strategy.
Most restaurants, whenever they have to have a fire...
dan friesen
It's when they're going out of business.
jordan holmes
It's not like, oh, we need to stay open for another six months.
dan friesen
Yeah, arson fraud isn't your first choice.
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
Oh, we got a deficit this year.
Should we take out a loan?
Nah.
Let's burn the factory again.
dan friesen
Did you hear the good news?
The DOJ is not investigating arson.
unidentified
Hey, everybody!
jordan holmes
We're getting a bonus!
dan friesen
Okay.
Yeah, that's fun.
Also, the DOJ, you can go to their website, and they have a bunch of arson investigations and convictions and prosecutions.
jordan holmes
Of course they do.
dan friesen
So yeah, this is patently wrong, easily provably false, and just...
Dumb.
The idea of it is dumb.
jordan holmes
I love how much it's like a constant struggle for being like, oh, they're saying this out in public.
This is open now.
They're announcing this.
And yet when you have public information that is readily available to you if you would like to search the FBI statistics.
unidentified
No, no, no, no, no.
dan friesen
It's boring.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
unidentified
That's boring.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
That's work.
jordan holmes
You can't find this public information that's on their website.
dan friesen
I only want to hear conjecture and tweets and TikToks.
It's all I want.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex gets to talking about Q. Okay.
QAnon.
All right.
jordan holmes
So he does listen to our show.
dan friesen
No, I think...
What would this have been?
No, because this is from The Weeknd.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right.
unidentified
This is Sunday.
jordan holmes
That's right.
This is before.
I got you.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
It cannot possibly be responding.
jordan holmes
It's just coincidence.
dan friesen
Yeah, but he lost a lot of fans because of QAnon.
alex jones
Another big example of this is Q. I lost...
Two and a half years ago, during the Trump campaign, about a third of our audience, it hurt us worse than de-platforming.
But I knew the Q thing was fake.
I knew the Pope and, you know, hadn't secretly been arrested.
I knew that...
dan friesen
That was Steve.
alex jones
Not Q. Tom Hanks.
It wasn't running child kidnapping rings underground bases.
I mean, it was in the WikiLeaks that the Podestas were involved in evil stuff, and there were a bunch of pedophiles.
We exposed that, but they created a fake thing that was cartoonized.
To make all of us that were serious look stupid.
dan friesen
So Alex is playing a little fast and loose here.
Two and a half years ago is like the 2020 time.
Like, we should take it back a little bit further, right?
I mean, like, the prevailing narratives that were going on on Infowars and the early Q stuff were very similar.
They're very in sync.
Steve might as well have started Q, quite frankly, in terms of the counter-coup narratives that he was putting forth.
And Alex continued to have Steve on as a respected expert, even after he said that the Pope had been arrested.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, in that very clip right there, he says, Ah, I knew Tom Hanks wasn't doing that.
unidentified
Obviously, Pizzagate is true.
alex jones
Well...
dan friesen
Yeah, that's also a problem.
Because, no, because his whole thing with Pizzagate is like, I never was into the restaurant.
jordan holmes
Sure, but Podesta has, in the WikiLeaks, Podesta is, like, that's what he's doing.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
If you're saying that in the WikiLeaks it is obviously true that Podesta ran a child trafficking ring, then you're essentially saying that their conspiracy is so stupid because it has a different guy running the imaginary ring.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, fair enough.
That's the way that Alex stays grounded.
You know?
That's right.
jordan holmes
Hey, let's not get crazy.
dan friesen
There's a document behind mine where you just look at Tom Hanks and say he's in Gitmo or something.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
If Alex lost any audience to QAnon, it's because Q's more fun.
That was a game of riddles that needed to be solved instead of a dumb show where an idiot alcoholic lashes out at an audience based on whatever mood he happens to be in that day.
Like, honestly, and you can calm down with that sanctimonious nonsense, like, thinking he's better than Q. Yeah, yeah, get the fuck out of here.
Like, he was so into common ping-pong stuff in the early time.
Joe Biggs was into that.
They had Jack Posobiec on to do an interview about him going to ping-pong.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And getting kicked out and how scary it was there.
I just have no- Fuck off.
jordan holmes
I have no time for one part of the crazy world looking at another part of the crazy world being like, see, those guys are nuts.
No time for it.
dan friesen
It is a little annoying.
jordan holmes
No time for it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex knows who started Q, and this song and dance has been done before, and he's doing it again.
jordan holmes
He's got three days.
alex jones
So many people we woke up who were babies to this, and then they got mad at me thinking, oh, you don't know about the secret white hats in the CIA.
You don't know about the Trump administration and what Trump's going to do and he's invincible and he's with Q. When I know who started the Q thing, but I've not said who because they've asked me not to.
And I was approached by U.S. intelligence, a group within it.
There's a bunch of factions and people that have been high level in the Trump campaign and some mid-level and some speechwriters and some people that have been in intelligence.
And they said, we saw what you did.
They came and visited me in Austin.
I saw how he exposed Hillary and the WikiLeaks and the devil worship and how effective it was, and that was true.
They said, the problem is you get the blame.
You get hurt.
But this can be done through 4chan and 8chan, and then we can do it successfully.
That only ran a couple months.
And then he got taken away and somehow moved by a more powerful element of that and turned into disinformation operation.
And I mean, those are real people folks.
Like I'm a real person on there for 28 years.
I'm not some nebulous cute thing.
unidentified
I'm jealous for a different reason.
alex jones
I didn't expose the New World Order.
Most people living didn't expose the New World Order.
It was Barry Goldwater.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Alex loves the JBS.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
So this is all bullshit, and Alex has said this stuff a bunch of times in the past, so I'm not even going to dwell too much on the idea that military intelligence visited Alex and floated the idea of this by him before they took it to 4chan.
unidentified
Refuse.
dan friesen
I just have one thought, though, and that is that if Alex is sincere in this in any way, he has an indisputable moral obligation to reveal who these people are and exactly what happened.
Alex is lying, but if we pretend that he's not, then he knows the names of people who have run an elaborate psy-op on the American public that has led to tons of death, the storming of the Capitol, and the formation of essentially a leaderless doomsday cult.
Even if you believe that they meant well and someone else took it over after a few months, these people need to be held responsible for their actions.
Presumably, they were public employees when they did this, and they are accountable to us, the public.
Alex not identifying them makes him complicit in their actions, and that...
Should be a criminal act.
This is all made up, so it doesn't matter.
But just consider how if Alex weren't lying, he's still a gigantic piece of shit for actively covering up what would be one of the largest abuses of public trust in decades.
It's comical to imagine what he would be involved in covering up if he wasn't full of shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, that means if you're saying that they came to you at this period of time saying that you should do this thing.
Right.
And then you know all about this stuff.
Then you are telling me that I have to go back to that period of time on your show, and if you purposefully kept this hidden from me, knowing full well what it's going to do, then you are the person that I cannot trust anymore.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
They're the ones who are trying to do this shit.
I never trusted them.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I trusted you to tell me what those assholes are doing, and you lied to me.
dan friesen
Yeah, and like, so...
The earliest times, like, the first Q drop was about, like, Hillary Clinton has been arrested, you know, or whatever.
So, like, that was the people that Alex...
jordan holmes
Yeah, that had to have been the people that Alex was talking about.
dan friesen
So they were full of shit running a scam on people as well.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So Alex has a responsibility to, like, if any of this were true...
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's just such nonsense.
He just wants to be a big boy.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
That's all this is.
jordan holmes
It is so much like...
When your ego gets in the way of your narrative.
You know, like, I have to be Forrest Gumping in every possible pie.
You know, I've gotta be there.
But if I am there, then I'm essentially a traitor to everything that I've ever believed in.
dan friesen
Ah, shit.
jordan holmes
But because no one cares what I say, I'll just go ahead and say it.
dan friesen
I mean, his show is called Infowars.
It's the information war, right?
I mean, like, he is complicit in and...
Sat passively by while agents of the government or someone who is running for office used subterfuge and a psyop on the American public to deceive them into making some conclusion.
And Alex is, I guess, fine with that.
jordan holmes
I mean, no, you know what?
Disinformation is sometimes necessary for both enemies and allies.
T.J. Jefferson.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So there's going to be some race wars, apparently.
alex jones
So that's why I want you to know.
The victories we're having now, you can see them.
And the world awakening and them backing off the shots and the globalists in trouble.
But the problem is they're going to launch wars.
They're going to launch cyber attacks.
They are going to try to launch race war.
Look, is there a problem of a minority of a minority of black people going out and attacking whites because the liberal media says whites are evil and deserve to be attacked?
And is the media covering it up?
Yes.
And it's 10,000 plus white people here.
Being brutally murdered by black people wrong?
Yes.
And I'm against it.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
I think Alex is trying to stick up for his buddy Dilbert here.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
But yeah, those numbers are ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Okay, so if I understand correctly...
dan friesen
Those numbers are literally impossible.
jordan holmes
No, they're literally impossible.
We would be out of white people within a very short period of time.
dan friesen
In the U.S. is what he's saying.
No, there's not a chance.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't understand how you can hand wave...
If you're describing this as something that's true, that is not a hand-wavable thing.
dan friesen
No, but here's the thing.
He's just a racist, and he likes to hide his racism behind this idea that there's these racially charged crime statistics that the globalists are covering up.
And now, the reality is that this is a...
White supremacist talking point.
And one of the most effective ways that people get radicalized into those pipelines is people manipulating and lying about these statistics.
It's inspired, at very least, Dylann Roof.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I just don't get how someone can hear that and hear him...
See, the problem isn't that you're saying it, because...
Fine, you're a fucking racist, you're gonna say that shit.
I feel like the problem in my head is if I'm a racist listening to this, I can't handle you being like, sure, 10,000 white people are being killed every day in a mass racist attack, and the media's covering up.
We all know this.
That's just a fact of life for us, right?
You know, we white people just walking down the street, I have lost 16 friends in the past two years alone, right?
You would have to have that kind of information.
That's how many people are being murdered.
dan friesen
Everyone I know was the target of the knockout game.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
It's amazing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, you can't hear that without being like, well, then we need to...
If that was true and you said any group of people was doing that, that's an immediate emergency.
That is an immediate emergency.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, there's another emergency.
alex jones
So, I'm going to explain this before we come back next hour and then talk about...
The head of the Young Turks is talking about sex with animals and then attacking me.
He wants my cat.
I'm not joking.
He starts talking about sex with animals and then he wants my cat.
I'm not joking.
It's coming up.
He's looking at the depraved minds of these people.
We'll be right back.
Stay with us.
Hour number two.
dan friesen
Yeah, so the implication is that Cenk Uygur wants to have sex with Alex's cat.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Cenk wants to fuck a cat, eh?
All right.
Where's old Hammer Buddies over there?
Let's roll it all up into one.
dan friesen
Oh, hey, there's another thing Alex was wrong about.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cenk, years ago...
Maybe drunk.
I'm not entirely sure.
But he was on the show, and he was making a joke about how if he were a benevolent king, he would make it legal to have sex with animals if you were giving pleasure to the animal.
And then everybody was like, what are you talking about?
I think it was a talking shit kind of session.
jordan holmes
You try.
You give it your best, and then sometimes you're a little bit off.
dan friesen
Some people are able to argue this kind of thing in a funny way that is kind of...
Infuriating to people.
There's an episode of, I think it's Improv for Humans, where John Gemberling is making this argument.
He debates a listener about it.
And it's very funny because of how infuriated the person gets at not being able to get over the hurdles that Gemberling sets up for.
Right, right, right.
Cenk was not as adept at this.
And, you know, sometimes...
People say kind of shocking things that are dumb, but they think are funny.
And that's kind of the vibe I get from that clip.
So anyway, that was years ago.
And now, Cenk did a video where he talks about how Alex's cat should be taken away.
He didn't say that he wants to take away Alex's cat.
He wants Alex's cat taken away from him.
Not that it's like, give me that cat.
Now, I'm going to come out publicly and say, I want that cat.
That's a big old cat.
jordan holmes
We'll take it.
dan friesen
It's a big old chubby cat.
jordan holmes
It's a cutie!
dan friesen
No, that's not fair.
His kid deserves to have its pet.
I don't want to separate a kid from its pet.
jordan holmes
I would never fuck up a pet situation.
What kind of monster would do that?
dan friesen
Yeah, but Selene would take good care of that cat.
They'd become great friends.
Yeah.
But, yeah, leave it in the home.
Yeah.
So, here's the situation.
Alex is going to lay out what's going on with the cat.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I don't even want to play four minutes.
That's how long it is.
Here is St. Uger saying he wants to legalize sex with animals to pleasure him.
And then the same guy then attacking me and saying all these horrible things about me on the show.
And it really did happen last Wednesday, last Thursday.
I'm in a bankruptcy, corporate bankruptcy for free speech to reorganize personal bankruptcy to show them have all these hidden tens of millions, hundreds of millions.
It's all lies.
And so, the Justice Department can get involved when they want.
And they have gotten involved.
And I've already had some hearings with them.
And so they said it'd be 30 minutes long.
It was three hours long.
That's why I went on the first hour of the show.
Started at 9 a.m.
Went from 9 to noon.
And that was Thursday.
And they kept bringing up my cat, asking how much it was worth.
And I'm not into fancy breed stuff.
I'm not even a cat guy.
But my daughter, when she was three, wanted a cat.
I thought, okay, let me Google.
And it was true, actually, what Google said.
That isn't controlled yet.
I used to Google had great answers.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
Why are we adding this?
alex jones
What is the most dog-like cat?
And all of them came out ragdolls.
And then Joe Rogan, a good friend of mine, has ragdolls for many years.
His wife's a big ragdoll person going back decades.
He said, no, they're amazing cats.
They're incredible.
And I have to say I'm a dog guy.
But man, this cat is incredible.
dan friesen
I'd love to kill him.
alex jones
He's amazing.
His name's Bushu.
jordan holmes
My daughter named him.
alex jones
He's not named after the Disney.
Why can't he be named after Mushu?
jordan holmes
Mulan's a great!
alex jones
I seem defensive about the cat's name.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's crazy.
That's nuts.
unidentified
So...
dan friesen
I will say that Alex spends a disproportionate amount of time talking about this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that makes sense.
dan friesen
It felt like maybe an hour of the show.
It wasn't, but it felt like it.
It goes on and on.
Multiple segments complaining about Cenk wanting his cat and wanting to have sex with animals.
It's just...
It's a lot.
jordan holmes
I just wish...
Here, I don't want this, because this might seem a little bit, this might come off the wrong way, okay?
I wish that other people wouldn't talk about Alex, like Jenkin, like that kind of stuff.
I wish that they wouldn't put those clips on there, because...
He should just go away.
dan friesen
He should just go away.
But it's also bait.
Like, it's taking bait.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
And you should just, if Alex goes away, and I know people will be like, oh, well, Jordan, you just want it for your...
No.
No.
No one talks about us.
We're not talked about in the media.
Nobody's clipping Alex through us.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Alex doesn't talk about us.
If you leave Alex to us, then Alex is contained in this little world.
It's like trapping him in a glass.
It's like trapping him under a glass, you know?
dan friesen
Well, I'm happy to sacrifice myself as a horcrux.
jordan holmes
That's what we are, isn't it?
People clip us talking and not Alex, and that's essentially what we should be doing.
dan friesen
Well, I...
I agree with you somewhat.
jordan holmes
You know what I'm saying.
What I'm saying is what I want is for Alex to go away.
dan friesen
More realistically, I think that what you would hope for is for people to recognize when things are bait.
And Alex posting that video of himself with his cat saying that the government wants to take his cat.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, that's bait.
He's doing that in order to get attention for himself and to drive traffic to and for wars.
Get his name out there, keep him in people's minds.
jordan holmes
There's nothing better than hearing the Young Turks say something stupid about his cat, because then he can put that out there and all of his fans will be like, see, he's still under attack by the blah, blah, blah.
dan friesen
He gets to play the victim of, not only is he the victim of this guy who wants to have sex with animals, Cenk Uygur, he's also the victim of the state.
Take away his poor cat that his kid loves so much.
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
Woe is me.
dan friesen
It's weak teeth.
Sure.
And I think that, yeah, here's one of the reasons why I agree with you.
This is probably impossible to attain, but if no one else covered him, like these outlets, like the Young Turks and what have you...
If Alex wanted to navel-gaze, the only thing he could do is complain about us.
jordan holmes
It would be us.
dan friesen
And I would be curious to see if he would do that if he needed a hit for his own self-confidence.
jordan holmes
I know!
I mean, I just feel like that's kind of the thing that people don't understand that we learned through so much time, you know?
Like, the fact that other people don't talk about us...
And the fact that he doesn't talk about us, like, the combination of those two things, if we can keep him under glass, then he cannot hurt anyone, you know?
unidentified
He can hurt some people, but it would limit things.
Yeah, it would.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's like how, you know, with the industrial plants and stuff, you know, like, you do everything right and there's still going to be some danger.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You try and have regulation and inspection, and we're the version of that.
jordan holmes
I mean...
dan friesen
We regulate Alex.
jordan holmes
And it's like, I get it.
I want you to have fun.
I don't want people to not have fun with it.
But, you know, at the same time, it's like, this is our job for humanity.
Like, let's just all agree that even if it would be fun to post a clip of Alex, he can go fuck off into the middle of nowhere, you know?
dan friesen
There might be something else funny to post, like someone falling on some ice or something.
jordan holmes
Post a picture of a regular old cat.
dan friesen
Yeah, there was that video that someone posted of a raccoon in a trash bin opening the sliding trash door.
Post that again.
jordan holmes
You know what I miss?
I miss the Leroy Jenkins video.
Post that again.
That's great.
dan friesen
I don't know this meme.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Recognize the name, though.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Is he running for mayor?
jordan holmes
No.
Back in the day, there was this World of Warcraft thing, and there's this video of all this guild, and they're all planning things out.
They've all got stuff going on.
He's like, let's go this way.
You'll be the blood of that thing.
And then apparently this guy had just come from the bathroom.
So he just runs in and screams, Leroy!
And then just starts attacking and everything falls apart.
And it's just a fun little great day.
dan friesen
That's good clean fun.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's good clean fun.
dan friesen
I don't know early memes.
Anyway, Alex complains more about Jake.
alex jones
So again, all misrepresentation from a guy that literally, it's kind of creepy.
I mean, he wants to pleasure animals as a dictator, and now he wants my cat.
Here he is.
Could have been a little bit more honest.
jordan holmes
The dietary supplements come in, I think, second.
unidentified
Number one is the penis pills, I think, that he sells.
So he's a penis pill salesman.
jordan holmes
That's who he is.
unidentified
Let's hit pause again.
alex jones
Let's hit pause again.
You got Sink, who's a big Pfizer recipient, I believe.
Pfizer money that makes Viagra.
We have natural herbs that I've taken.
I've taken both, and I believe in working well.
I don't really need the help, but it's kind of fun.
I mean, let's be honest.
I'm married here.
I'm a man.
But again, oh, I'm bad at selling herbs.
What does Whole Foods sell?
Let's continue.
dan friesen
Yeah, they sell some herbs.
jordan holmes
You know what?
dan friesen
Look, here's the thing, too, though.
Like, Jank's whole point when he was talking about animals was, where is the harm that's done if you are giving pleasure to an animal?
I don't agree with him, per se.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But from a libertarian perspective, someone like Alex should...
Why should you conceivably be closer to that side of things?
Why should the government be able to regulate when you're doing no harm to another person?
jordan holmes
I mean, here's what I say, alright?
If you can get consent, I mean, you can get consent.
So if you can prove to me that you have figured out a way to communicate with said animal...
dan friesen
We're not doing this.
jordan holmes
We're not doing this.
dan friesen
No, we're not.
jordan holmes
I don't want to do this.
dan friesen
We're not breaking down circumstances wherein you are fine.
With this.
What I'm saying is that Alex's libertarian principles should be closer to this than not, and the reason that he's doing this is because he wants to just tee off and yell about Cenk.
jordan holmes
And my consent principles mean it's wrong.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
So Cenk also brings up that Alex's dad runs PQPR, or ostensibly is the owner of that, or whatever.
jordan holmes
I'm affiliated with Free Speed Systems.
dan friesen
And so Alex, he wants to get real.
People are maligning him and his father.
alex jones
But let's talk about my parents.
I've never really told this story.
My dad was managing over 100 dental offices 12 years ago.
And the hardest working man I've ever known in my life.
Smartest person I've ever known.
And my mother never even really knew this.
But my dad had a heart attack.
And he was...
Then I have heart surgery in Dallas.
Other stuff went on.
And I said, Dad, you've been involved getting stuff approved by the FDA.
You're a great manager.
Will you come to work with me and set up a supplement company?
He goes, I want you to not kill yourself.
And he took the job, but he did it.
And I ended up shoveling money to my parents.
My dad owns a supplement company.
We send the money to him.
He buys the supplements and comes back.
And my dad makes like $400,000 a year.
It's true.
Because he's making a million dollars a year where he was killing himself.
That's true.
Yeah, I saved my dad.
He did a great job, by the way.
So, if you have sex with the animals and burn it out, you're damn right.
I've worked with my family.
My dad did a great job.
He's done a great job.
And that's where we're at.
dan friesen
So, first question.
Alex's mom didn't know that her husband had a heart attack?
jordan holmes
I guess not.
dan friesen
That's weird.
jordan holmes
You guys need to work on your relationship.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's very strange.
Also, that is not an accurate portrayal of how their web of finances works.
It's kind of a fun way for Alex to present things where he's the victim and everyone's so mean to him and his dad who he saved.
Right.
But that's a load of bullshit.
jordan holmes
You know, you work at the Young Turks for years.
Do they call you Mr. The Host of the Young Turks?
No.
You're a journalist for years.
Do they call you Mr. The Journalist?
No.
You talk about having sex with animals one time, and then you're Mr. Have Sex with Animals.
That's how it works.
dan friesen
It's tough to get away from.
It's a label.
So yeah, I mean, there is BQPR that is partially owned by Alex's dad, but he's not the sole owner.
There's these trusts that Alex owns that are also owners of it.
And it's all just this web.
Also, there are questions that should be asked about how the payments to this company started happening.
Right around when the lawsuit...
jordan holmes
When things started maybe looking south?
dan friesen
Oh yeah, we'd accrued this giant debt that just never got paid.
jordan holmes
Just never paid this debt, and now it's finally time to give it to members of my family.
dan friesen
Well see, I mean, the thing is, this contradicts things that have been said in court and under oath.
And that's because lying under oath and in those settings is fraud.
But lying on your radio show is cool.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it makes you look like the victim, which is a fun game for big strong boys to play when they want to make it look like the young Turks are wronging me.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't think it's awful that you can lie so much on air.
I do think maybe there should be a lesser distance between what Alex does and then telling the truth under oath.
If we're talking about extremes, I would like the Alex side to come closer to the under oath side.
dan friesen
Well, I think it would just be interesting to juxtapose the things that are said.
with the things that he says on air and then ask for an explanation of why they're different in front of his audience.
Yeah.
unidentified
In a circumstance where, like, he actually has to own up to them Oh, I lied to the court.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or something like that.
And then take that to the court and see what they think about it.
Have him explain that to the court.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
You know, go back and forth and explain your lies to each side.
unidentified
Yeah, see what happens.
jordan holmes
See if you can go back and see if you can play both sides.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I like that.
dan friesen
That's the game I'd like to see him play.
jordan holmes
I got a lot of plates in the air.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So I thought he was stalling a lot and killing time with talking about his cat.
jordan holmes
And then the show ended.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
We get a big reveal.
alex jones
Now, Owen came in tonight.
I was just going to do an hour.
It's a business and family.
I need to go see.
But I'll be doing the show throughout the week.
But the point is that Owen came in here.
Christy Lee's coming up next hour.
But Owen came in tonight with the whole show prepared.
So much to cover.
But I had so much to get to.
And this announcement that we really crossed the line.
dan friesen
He had nothing to get to.
The big announcement that we've crossed the Rubicon is like Woody Harrelson's monologue on SNL, and he complains about Cenk wanting to take his cat.
jordan holmes
How long did he do?
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
How long?
dan friesen
Two hours?
It's a two hour show.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
He might have done like an hour and a half or so.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
He didn't get too much.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
So Owen had to prepare whatever that means.
dan friesen
It doesn't mean anything.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
And then Alex was just like, man.
That guy's real mean to me.
That guy's real mean to me.
dan friesen
It does add a layer of triviality to this.
The show is so meaningless that it's bizarre to think of Alex calling in and needing to get on air and talk about how great Woody Harrelson is and how they're best friends and also Cenk sucks, he wants my cat.
That's funny, but it's hilarious to imagine that just off camera, Owen is sitting there, he's being preempted By Alex's meaningless rambling.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, it'd be like if I got bumped at the comedy store for somebody to do a set, and then they just rambled.
They're just like, I went to the store today, and I saw some milk.
Milk is a little bit more expensive than it is.
Have you seen this?
Okay, so I got some milk, and then I got some cereals.
I got two kinds.
I like sugar cereals.
You ever try sugar?
dan friesen
It's like you're set to headline a club, and you get bumped.
For the CEO who has never done stand-up before and has no jokes.
jordan holmes
Nope.
Nothing.
Hey, buddy, I'm taking your slot tonight.
dan friesen
And also the CEO had called you in to do that set.
jordan holmes
We need you to fill in!
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then he does the set anyway.
jordan holmes
I'll do 45. Yeah.
dan friesen
So Owen has some interesting thoughts to take us out of our episode.
owen shroyer
And it is more about I don't wish...
unidentified
I don't want...
owen shroyer
Chunk Uyghur's life destroyed.
I don't want his crew's life destroyed.
I disagree with their politics and ideology.
jordan holmes
Didn't you say you did?
Like a few weeks ago?
alex jones
We do want to protect animals from him.
Like he's saying, he wants my cat.
I'm not saying he wants to have sex with my cat, but I hope he doesn't think some dictator gives an order that my cat gets pleasured by him.
dan friesen
Oh, God.
Yeah, I think this high road nonsense is cute.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Owen and Alex being like, oh yeah, I disagree, but I would never want harm to come to anybody that I want to politically stab in the eyes.
unidentified
Hey, Owen, I'm just going to ask you a quick question.
jordan holmes
All right.
Now, I have, I'm going to throw this out there.
I have danced on zero burning flags.
None.
unidentified
None?
jordan holmes
None.
Now, admittedly, I have not been scratched.
So, I don't know if I'm a fascist until you scratch me.
Now, I think I smell like grapes if you scratch me, but we'll see.
dan friesen
We'll find out next to St. Patrick's Day.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
unidentified
That's pinched.
dan friesen
Never mind.
jordan holmes
Now, he, on the other hand, has danced on how many burning flags?
dan friesen
At least one.
jordan holmes
At least one.
dan friesen
But, like, here's the deal, though.
Like, you scratch a liberal and there's a fascist, and this is proven by Cenk.
But, like, all Cenk did was say he wants Alex to have consequences for his actions.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That is not, to me, the mark of fascism.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Fascists hate...
Wait, no.
Yeah, they don't get consequences for their actions.
dan friesen
This is a little bit silly on a number of levels, but, like, it's not...
unidentified
Cenk just said Alex should have consequences.
dan friesen
He shouldn't have consideration.
Take his cat.
Take his shit.
He doesn't get some kind of a benefit of the doubt.
And that's...
I mean...
jordan holmes
I mean, he did.
That's the problem.
You can't say that now.
You can't say he doesn't get some benefit of the doubt.
He has had the most benefit of any doubt anyone has had in the American legal system in a long while.
dan friesen
So many benefits of so many doubts.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
So, no, it's too late now.
It's too late even for benefit of the doubt.
dan friesen
Fair enough, but I guess maybe better put, they're lying about what Cenk was saying in order to create their own victimhood and aggrievement, which is just like, I mean, the greatest drug for them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it's funny that Cenk was basically saying...
Hold no quarter.
And they're like, how could someone say hold no quarter?
dan friesen
Right, when Alex has to roll up his sleeve that has a no quarter tattoo on it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Like, what are you talking about?
dan friesen
This is like their marching cry.
jordan holmes
No mercy.
Oh, do you mean the thing you guys say?
Nonstop.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway, this was a little bit of what Alex needed to call in to do.
His show is meaningful as hell.
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
And he's doing good.
Apparently we're not going to get nuked, so that's good news.
He's in a slightly better mood.
jordan holmes
He better be painting.
He better be practicing for painting.
dan friesen
No updates on AlexJones.Live, I can tell you that.
If you're somebody who bought one of his stupid coins and were like, hey, I was expecting a membership for this.
You've got to be asking yourself some questions about, hey, why aren't you updating this?
You launched it.
Why aren't you...
jordan holmes
Is the site still up?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's still there.
jordan holmes
Just take it down.
dan friesen
Hasn't been updated.
jordan holmes
Just quit.
dan friesen
Just take it down.
We got Matt Baker on.
It's the most recent episode.
No more fireside chats have been posted.
If you're a listener, you should probably be asking yourself, why is that the case?
What's going on here?
Oh, maybe this was an elaborate ruse to try and trick the bankruptcy court.
jordan holmes
I mean...
Even if obviously you were trying to trick the bankruptcy court.
But don't you do like one more episode just to be like, see, I wanted to do it.
dan friesen
I think he might have done like, okay, so here's where it gets murky.
Because Alex's Saturday shows that he'll do sometimes when he comes in just to do like an episode.
Debatably could be Alex Jones Live.
You know what I mean?
jordan holmes
Yes.
Yes, I do.
dan friesen
I think he has done a Saturday episode on Infowars since Alex Jones Live stopped, which could be an episode of Alex Jones Live, but legally isn't allowed to be.
unidentified
Can't be.
jordan holmes
It's not.
unidentified
So, you know, it's potato potato.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a good point.
dan friesen
Can't quite tell what's going on.
jordan holmes
The name is in the eye of the beholder.
dan friesen
Yes.
And the courts.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
So we'll be back on the other side of the weekend with probably maybe the live episodes will be coming out next week.
jordan holmes
That's exciting.
dan friesen
So we'll see.
Maybe I'll take a week off.
jordan holmes
We'll see what happens.
unidentified
After the amount of work you've put in.
dan friesen
Look, I'm just mad at Howard Dean, honestly.
I'm furious at Howard Dean and it's in no way his fault.
jordan holmes
No, actually it makes the whole scream feel like it wasn't worth it.
dan friesen
I'll tell you what wasn't worth it.
Me listening to 50 hours of this dumb show for nothing in preparation for a show that we're not doing.
Right.
But hey, I'm not bitter.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
About my own decisions and my own choices.
jordan holmes
Hey, what are you going to do?
dan friesen
Myself and Howard Dean.
jordan holmes
Life doesn't work out sometimes.
dan friesen
We'll be back.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight.
dan friesen
Yeah, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZXClark.
I'm also...
alex jones
Oh, you know what?
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
andy in kansas
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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