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Feb. 24, 2023 - Knowledge Fight
01:18:59
#780: February 21, 2023

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on the present day to see how Alex is doing.  Turns out, he's in a really bad mood, so the world is about to end.  To deal with that, Alex spends most of his show listing off scary weapons and justifying cannibalism.

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alex jones
15:44
d
dan friesen
37:57
j
jordan holmes
19:35
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m
mike adams
00:15
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steve quayle
00:02
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan, I'm sweating.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com.
It's time to pray.
jordan holmes
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
I need, I need money.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your room.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody!
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan, quick question for you, buddy.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot?
dan friesen
My bright spot today, Jordan, I guess, is that it's snuck up on me considerably, but it's a week away from the shows.
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
The live shows in Milwaukee.
jordan holmes
Snuck up on me a lot, too!
dan friesen
Yeah!
It's like, oh, it's abstractly in March.
jordan holmes
It's coming up.
dan friesen
It's next week, and boy, I'll tell you what.
I'm scrambling.
jordan holmes
The first week of March is the worst time, because you think, you will always think, you know, like, oh.
I've got a month before this happened, but you forget that that month is February, and that month is a lie.
dan friesen
Yeah, you see the early 20s and the dates, and you're like, oh.
jordan holmes
I still got time.
dan friesen
Yeah, plenty of days.
Now you get three less than you think.
Yep.
Yeah, I don't know.
Maybe it's poor form to tell an audience, presumably before the live show, that's like, shit is up in the air right now, folks.
I'm still trying to figure out what we're going to do for that live show.
jordan holmes
I think what's important is to temper expectations.
Listen, you have enjoyed a thing that we have put out nearly 800 episodes of.
Don't be surprised if you put it in a different...
dan friesen
I mean, look, there's a little bit of excitement to it, though, is what I'm saying.
There's a little bit of chaos.
I mean, you never know what's going to happen exactly in terms of the content, but a week out from the show, I have a pretty good idea about one episode.
And the other is rapidly falling apart in real time, as people can observe on the podcast, because we're going through this 2004 stuff, and maybe Alex doesn't cover the scream ever.
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
dan friesen
Maybe this plan was flawed from the jump.
We'll find out, though.
Who knows?
You'll have to tune in or show up in Milwaukee to the show that's sold out to find out.
jordan holmes
He may not cover it until 2005.
That's possible.
dan friesen
I don't know.
You never have to attack Howard Dean after 2004.
jordan holmes
No, you don't.
dan friesen
But anyway, it's kind of exciting.
What's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is the other day we were playing some fidget games and doing the thing on Twitch that I do and Elfring brought up Random Access Memories by Daft Punk.
And he made the somewhat controversial statement that he thought it was the best Daft Punk album.
dan friesen
He said that one more time?
jordan holmes
He said that once more.
With digital love.
dan friesen
Whoa.
jordan holmes
And I re-listened to it, man.
It's a fantastic album.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
It's a fantastic album.
I love it.
dan friesen
One of the best of all time?
jordan holmes
It's not as good as Discovery, but it is still a fantastic album.
I would put it at number two.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
If we were going to fight about it.
dan friesen
Always nice to revisit.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, it was great.
Lose yourself to dance, my friend.
I was on the train losing myself to dance today.
dan friesen
I generally lose myself in the music the moment.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
You better never let it go.
jordan holmes
That's probably wise.
dan friesen
You only get one shot.
jordan holmes
Do not?
dan friesen
Miss your chance.
jordan holmes
To go.
dan friesen
Blow.
jordan holmes
To flow.
dan friesen
Blow?
jordan holmes
Show?
dan friesen
I think it's blow.
jordan holmes
Row.
dan friesen
Opportunity comes once in a lifetime.
That's all I know.
jordan holmes
All right.
Yeah, that one I'm confident in.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Well, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over, and by popular demand, we're checking in on the present day.
jordan holmes
Boo!
dan friesen
I know.
You know what?
Here's the deal.
I know that we have a responsibility and an obligation to cover all things Alex, but as we've said many times, this is not an Alex Jones after show, and if people are...
Like, gigantically curious about what Alex has to say about X, Y, or Z, they can go listen to his show if they want.
jordan holmes
I think Chris Hardwick does one, an after show of InfoWars.
dan friesen
I think he's talking wars.
jordan holmes
Talking shit.
Talking free speech.
dan friesen
Yeah, and like, you know, I think that generally speaking, most stuff, if you have like a hot button issue...
Nine times out of ten, you can guess what Alex is gonna say about it.
His show is not like...
It's very rare that you're gonna get revelations of like, holy shit, his angle on this is wild.
But, you know, hey, that doesn't mean that we get to just say, hey, fuck the president, we're gonna just do whatever we want.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Still should check in on it, let people know how things are going in Alex's world.
So today we're gonna be talking about February 21st, 2023.
I will say...
jordan holmes
It justifies staying in the past!
dan friesen
You know what?
It's a mixed bag!
It's a mixed bag!
jordan holmes
See?
unidentified
There we go!
jordan holmes
Some ups, some downs!
dan friesen
I will say that we learn less than maybe in the past, but there's some stuff that is pretty fucking stupid, so that's fun.
Also, before we get to the wonk shout-outs here, we should really clarify a couple of things, and they are that we both made mistakes.
On the last episode, you misquoted Marx.
jordan holmes
That's right, I did.
I quoted Bill Watterson as who I quoted.
dan friesen
It's interesting, too, because you were so anti-religion and said TV is the opiate of the masses.
jordan holmes
Well, I meant that quote because it's the quote that I was thinking of because I was talking about TV.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
But I forgot that that was a Bill Watterson take on the Marx quote.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Religion is the opiate of the masses.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I have chosen the better one.
dan friesen
That would be Boberson.
But it was still a misquoting.
And then I said National Alliance when I met National Vanguard.
Strom was the founder of the National Vanguard.
Gotcha.
No one pointed it out, but as I was listening back, I was like, this is embarrassing.
Very easy mistake to make.
Similar names, both Nazis.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would be fairly embarrassed, but I think I just love Calvin and Hobbes too much.
This is an opportunity to tell more people about Calvin and Hobbes, so I accept my mistake.
dan friesen
Oh, yes, the obscure underground comic strip Calvin and Hobbes.
jordan holmes
Oh, man, there's Gen Z people.
Maybe they don't even know it.
dan friesen
That's possible.
So we'll get down to Ben's on today's episode, but first, let's say hello, Jordan, to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, I'm an Aussie, I grow pineapples, I rescue bats, I'm an IT nerd, and my name is Sean.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Thank you!
Next, just joined.
Still waiting on my sex robot.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Next, I'm worried about Uncle Paldi, presented by Mountain Dew Barry Monsoon, a Sam's Club exclusive.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Thank you!
Next, wait a second.
Hang on.
I'm new.
So is Dan DJ Danarchy?
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
To clarify, no, I am not.
jordan holmes
It would be fun if you had an alter ego that we both treated as 100% real.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
That would be fun.
dan friesen
And then, like, at the live show, I just performed with, like, a dance punk hat.
unidentified
You put a hat?
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Next, congrats to Spencer on her new business, which I assure you is not related to free speech systems.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wank.
alex jones
I'm a policy wank.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
And every night before bed, I enjoy a policy wank while listening to techno rap.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wank.
alex jones
I'm a policy boss.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
They requested that I try and do something that they don't know what techno rap is, but that I should do it.
jordan holmes
They don't know what techno rap is.
dan friesen
And the closest thing I could come up with for that was Bangkok, Oriental City, but the city don't know what the city is getting.
The creme de la creme of the chess world at a show of everything but Yule Branagh.
Time flies.
Doesn't see my minutes.
I don't like how you're looking at me.
jordan holmes
I'm just enjoying this.
dan friesen
You don't know One Night in Bangkok?
jordan holmes
No, I don't.
unidentified
One Night in Bangkok makes the hard man humble.
jordan holmes
A run of truly great musical performance from you.
dan friesen
Not much between despair and ecstasy.
jordan holmes
I'm finding it to be...
Like, that's our bit for 2023.
We've had Blackjack, we've had...
dan friesen
I'm gonna run out of songs, though.
jordan holmes
No, you are not, sir.
I've asked you questions, now you've got songs for days.
dan friesen
I think you should, first of all, find out about...
One Night in Bangkok.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
It makes the hard man humble.
jordan holmes
I mean, I could use that.
dan friesen
Also, check out Where It's From, which is a musical called Chess, which is all about chess.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, what?
dan friesen
Yeah, there's a musical called Chess.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And there's a guy named Murray Head who had a song in the, I guess, late 80s, early 90s, maybe?
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Yeah, One Night in Bangkok.
jordan holmes
All right.
So, One Night in Bangkok.
dan friesen
It's about going to a chess bar.
jordan holmes
Excuse me.
Excuse me.
Just real quick.
You asked me, you don't know One Night in Bangkok?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
As though I was a fool.
dan friesen
It's a big hit.
jordan holmes
And then you went on to tell me that it's from a musical called Chess.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Okay.
jordan holmes
In the 80s and 90s.
dan friesen
I'd bring you along.
unidentified
I would invite you, but the queens we use would not excite you.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Oh, boy.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
I'm down.
dan friesen
Playing chess.
jordan holmes
Yes, I understand.
I recognize that.
dan friesen
Anyway.
Murray Head!
My bright spot.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
I love it.
dan friesen
So, here's an out-of-context drop from today's show.
alex jones
Coming to you from people in the heart of Texas, broadcasting worldwide, I'm the Alex Jones host of the Alex Jones show.
dan friesen
Smooth.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep.
Caught that one.
dan friesen
I am the Alex Jones host.
jordan holmes
Power through.
dan friesen
I feel like we've heard him say that before.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Anyway, we start today with a pretty severe tone.
I'll say that if you want to have listened to this entire episode in, I don't know, 45 seconds, it's probably just this.
alex jones
This is an emergency broadcast, Tuesday, February 21st, 2023.
As we speak in a fascistic nighttime outdoor speech, Biden is basically declaring war on Russia publicly and pledging absolute military commitment.
Putin is saying, threatening that nuclear war is imminent.
This is getting more insane by the minute.
So incredibly dangerous.
I really don't have words at this point to describe how this spiraling, this death spiral threatens us all.
I don't think you need me to...
Explain that to you.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Biden has declared war on Russia, and Putin's saying the nukes are locked and loaded.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
That's basically all that's going on.
It's pretty severe.
It's scary.
It surprised me to hear because these things didn't happen.
jordan holmes
Right.
It bums me.
Here's what bums me out, all right?
I have been told in anger that Chicago's getting nuked.
Regularly, right?
Now, here he is all sad because we really might be in a nuclear superpower war.
That's not fair.
dan friesen
Well, he's still angry.
jordan holmes
Sure, but he's like...
dan friesen
I mean, just he's got to ramp into it.
jordan holmes
I don't need to tell you how dangerous this is.
Obviously, you've been telling me for the past 20 years that I'm going to get personally nuked.
dan friesen
Give him time.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
He's got to slow cook this anger.
jordan holmes
Okay, I'm still going to get in.
dan friesen
Yeah, it'll come.
unidentified
It'll come.
dan friesen
This is just the beginning of the show, my friend.
jordan holmes
That's on me.
dan friesen
So, there's nukes.
And it's a 100% chance that some nukes are going to be used.
And then some numbers get tweaked.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But this is pretty...
I mean, look, we're all dead.
alex jones
On the course we're on right now, there is a 100% chance nuclear weapons are going to be used, and in almost every actuary or war profile war game that's been done, if tacticals get used, you've got about an 80% chance it'll lead to a wider nuclear war.
When you look at the numbers of the wider nuclear war, it's about a 100% chance...
It'll eat a total commitment.
That means just a spasm of mass death.
So, we're a pretty satanic evil planet, aren't we?
And it goes to say we just blow ourselves up.
Real good chance, ladies and gentlemen, that we're facing the end of the world.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
Hope everybody enjoys it.
We'll be right back.
The cavalry has arrived.
Ultimate Bone Broth.
jordan holmes
Ooh, the cavalry has arrived!
dan friesen
Well, I mean, look, that's jarring.
Sure.
Okay, so if I'm to understand this as it plays, we're all dead.
Nuclear war is coming.
jordan holmes
100%.
dan friesen
Great news, though.
The solution to this is Ultimate Bone Broth.
jordan holmes
That is good news.
dan friesen
And it is back in stock.
jordan holmes
I would have preferred a little bit more connective tissue.
A little bit more.
dan friesen
There's probably connective tissue in that bone broth.
With a chaga mushroom.
jordan holmes
Yep, that's probably true.
dan friesen
And cocoa.
What else is in there?
Bee pollen.
I think, maybe.
I don't know.
It's a lot of ingredients.
jordan holmes
It sounds so much, all of these things, like some guy just had a bunch of stuff in his back office and he threw it into a mix and was like, I think I can sell this.
I think I can tell this.
dan friesen
Put it in milk.
It tastes like Lucky Charms.
jordan holmes
Everyone operates on three witch's principles.
dan friesen
Alex actually says that at one point.
He's like, this tastes like...
We had some people on staff say it tastes like Lucky Charms.
I'm like, I bet it doesn't.
jordan holmes
That's the worst thing that a broth can taste like.
dan friesen
Yeah, whose bones are you...
jordan holmes
Who wants broth that tastes like Lucky Charms?
That's terrifying.
dan friesen
So we are in a situation in the world right now that is not unlike a bullfight.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
There's a matador and there's a bull.
The globalists.
jordan holmes
Do either of them have nuclear weapons?
dan friesen
All of them.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
The globalists are the matadors.
Russia is the bull.
However, this metaphor is a little bit different than you might think.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
But in this confrontation...
jordan holmes
Because it's already torture.
alex jones
The matador is the New World Order deep state.
The bull is Russia.
jordan holmes
Cool.
alex jones
But in this game, when the matador sticks his sword into the heart of the bull...
The bull explodes and blows up everyone in the stadium.
The only way to win is not to play this game.
dan friesen
It's nothing like a matador and a bull, then.
jordan holmes
Generally speaking, the only way to win between the matador and the bull is one of them leaves and the other one does not.
dan friesen
Well, if you were a matador and you knew the bull exploded and blew up the stadium...
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You probably wouldn't be a matador, would you?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
It depends.
Are you in on it?
Were you the greatest matador in history?
And somebody was like, hey, I've got this plan.
What we're going to do is we're going to stuff this bowl full of explosives that will only trigger when you poke it in its heart.
Cementing the final kill.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And that will overthrow...
dan friesen
I have to assume that since metaphorically the globalists are the matador, they're well aware.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a good point.
dan friesen
Yeah, I can't see any other scenario here.
jordan holmes
I'm struggling with this metaphor, I think, is the main problem.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's dumb, that's why.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a good point.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we've heard, Alex, recently, and...
Whenever he's feeling down in the past, talk about like, oh, I gotta flee Austin.
I gotta get out of this liberal hellhole that I love living in.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
On the downswing, he does want to leave.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It turns out he's downswinging hard.
alex jones
I had to have a discussion with my wife this morning about leaving the United States for the Southern Hemisphere.
And I'm going to be completely honest with all of you.
I've said I'll never surrender.
I won't back down from the deep state here.
Even things can be fixed in America.
But America is so far gone, as we can all see, that I am strongly having to consider evacuating the United States.
Still will be hell if we're in Argentina or someplace.
During a nuclear war, there'll be a nuclear winter and it'll be bad.
And I know a lot of billionaires and people that have already fled to places like New Zealand and Hawaii, Hawaii.
I don't have the money for bunkers and all the rest of it.
dan friesen
Maybe not anymore.
jordan holmes
Well, not anymore.
No, that's a good point.
dan friesen
All I hear when Alex talks like this is, I just got bad news from the bankruptcy court.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
This gloomy shit has no connection to reality.
It's all just a projection of his mood.
When Alex thinks he's pulling a fast one and things are gonna work out, he tells the audience that the globalists are on the ropes and the good guys are gonna win just as long as you keep that money flowing.
When Alex has reasons to believe that his schemes to keep his money safe from the courts aren't gonna work, well, it's the end of the world.
of Alex's show are so repulsive to me when in reality his actual content isn't really much worse than it was in 2018 or around that time.
One theory that I've come up with is that Alex's show in the present day is actively abusive towards its listeners in a way that's increased, and I think it makes me mad.
This is kind of just him having a childish outburst on the show and trying to make everyone feel as miserable and panicked as he does.
And it's not that fun to take seriously as something worth paying attention to.
The only thing that even makes me raise an eyebrow here is that Alex is upping the ante from pretending he's about to leave Austin to pretending he's about to leave the country.
Also, probably not a coincidence that he chose Argentina as the country he'd like to flee to, seeing as it was the destination of a lot of high-level Nazis like Eichmann and Mengele.
Also, let's be very fucking clear about this.
Alex better follow all relevant laws in terms of immigration.
jordan holmes
I wrote down, you want to become an immigrant, huh?
I swear, I mean, I would be in any fucking country.
dan friesen
In this circumstance, would you be a refugee?
jordan holmes
Any fucking country in the world should not allow him in.
Like, that's crazy.
To me, that's crazy.
Because sooner or later, if you let him in, he's going to start getting mad at other people coming in.
That's insane!
dan friesen
There is no doubt that that cycle would perpetuate.
unidentified
Yeah!
jordan holmes
Keep him out!
dan friesen
I think one would be wise to keep him out of the country, but at the same time, were he fleeing for legitimate reasons, you know, like if he were actually a refugee in some way, his abhorrent opinions maybe wouldn't be as important as protecting his human rights, but I don't believe that's the circumstance we're in.
No.
No.
Fuck you, Alex.
unidentified
Yup.
dan friesen
It's just like, there's so much of this that is just lashing out.
And when I hear him talking about like, oh my god, all this nukes, they're right around the corner, we're all fucked, and all this, it's like, I can't disaggregate that from his entire, like, my life is really bad right now.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And that to me doesn't seem...
That interesting.
It seems like he's a fucking baby who wants everyone to be miserable.
jordan holmes
I mean, here's what's not fun.
Here's what makes it so fucking terrible.
Is now that I know what's going on in his other life where there's real money involved.
Then it's like, I mean, as we're talking here, I'm listening to this and I'm also aware that Mark is trying to get his lawyer disbarred.
Like, I am aware of those two things at the same time.
So I am not worried about a nuclear war or even willing to take it seriously because I am worried.
dan friesen
For sure.
to engage with his version of this story is to like...
Yeah.
Being juxtaposed onto nuclear war concerns.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's a fool's game to play, quite frankly.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't want to have a conversation with somebody who is clearly not having that conversation at all.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Why would I talk to you about nuclear war?
Your conversation is about how your lawyer is going to be disbarred.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Your conversation is about that and about how you're going to be broke.
You're going out of business.
And your attempts to shield yourself are...
Gradually not working.
People are seeing through your bullshit.
Alex Jones Live was a charade that was doomed to failure.
jordan holmes
How?
dan friesen
Still no new episodes of that, unfortunately.
jordan holmes
And him saying, I think it's time for me to leave the country, is also him being like, well, the only way I'm going to get to keep my money is if I hide it outside of the United States.
dan friesen
Cougar ants!
jordan holmes
I mean, it is at Argentina.
I'm going to choose places where they don't allow money.
dan friesen
I honestly think that that came to a Probably because Nazis.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised.
It really does feel that way.
dan friesen
I don't know why he doesn't have any affinity for South America outside of Brazil.
Not anymore.
jordan holmes
Not anymore.
Definitely not anymore.
Probably because Rhodesia doesn't exist anymore.
dan friesen
It does to him in his heart.
jordan holmes
Well, then I'm surprised he's not going there.
dan friesen
I am not.
So look, it's severe.
Shit is going down.
alex jones
You may feel like...
You're immune from this, but there are Russian submarines off our coast in the Atlantic, the Pacific, and the Gulf of Mexico that could destroy every U.S. city in five minutes.
Five minutes.
Mach 9 missiles that cannot be shot down.
Five minutes.
Chicago, New York, Austin, L.A., Miami.
dan friesen
Tampa!
Seattle!
alex jones
Minneapolis-St.
Paul!
unidentified
Detroit!
alex jones
Houston!
jordan holmes
Paris-Illinois!
Because they didn't know any better!
alex jones
Gone!
dan friesen
Truth and consequences!
unidentified
Gone!
jordan holmes
Gone!
alex jones
The ICBMs can be here in...
Twelve to fifteen minutes.
jordan holmes
And also wherever you can stand in like five states, they're going to blow that up too.
But just for consistency.
alex jones
And we're dealing with the Russians that lost 22 million people in World War II.
And they're ready for nuclear war.
And Putin gave a speech on that yesterday.
dan friesen
So Putin gave a state-of-the-country address, and he didn't say that he's ready to nuke everyone.
He did have some interesting things to say about U.S. political decisions, though.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
For instance, he said, quote, The whole world witnessed how they withdrew from fundamental agreements on weapons, including the Treaty on Intermediate and Shorter-Range Missiles, unilaterally tearing up the fundamental agreements that maintain world peace.
For some reason, they did it.
They do not do anything without a reason, as we know.
For the record, Trump did that, not the globalists.
All of the people Alex hates wanted Trump not to do that.
But Alex supported Trump's decision, which is one of the specifics that Putin cites in his speech criticizing the U.S. Funny.
Which is weird.
jordan holmes
Funny how that works.
dan friesen
It's a very, very long, boring speech, mostly about economic issues and the airing of grievances.
Some valid, some outrageous.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
The part where Putin brings up nuclear weapons is this.
We're aware of the fact that certain types of US nuclear weapons are reaching the end of their service life.
In this regard, we know for certain that some politicians in Washington are already pondering live nuclear tests, especially since the US is developing innovative nuclear weapons.
There's information to this effect.
Given these circumstances, the Defense Ministry and Rosatom must make everything ready for Russia to conduct nuclear tests.
We will not be the first to proceed with these tests, but if the US goes ahead with them, we will as well.
No one should harbor dangerous illusions that global strategic parity can be disrupted.
It is a bad sign for a head of state to be talking about a new nuclear arms race, but there's a chasm between what Putin said and how Alex is reporting it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's because Alex is a liar and a sensationalist who's feeling really down today, and so everything is so bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I suppose I would be...
I think I could be persuaded that there is a 100% chance in the lifetime of nuclear weapons that they will be used again.
I would not be...
I think I would accept that.
I think I would accept that there's a 100% chance that that will happen.
dan friesen
I mean, 100's a big number.
jordan holmes
It is, but I don't know if there's any way that we can understand human beings and who we put in charge of nuclear weapons without eventually recognizing that somebody's going to either do it on purpose or on accident.
dan friesen
Well, you know, like in a long enough scale, everything that can happen probably will happen.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But we don't need...
Too much evidence that we need a long scale.
We've already had at least three different possible world-ending events happen.
dan friesen
No, that's true.
I think I'll go as far as to say I think there's a high likelihood that nuclear weapons will be used.
Accidentally or intentionally again at some point.
But I also think that there is a possibility, there is a possible future where sincere and serious disarmament happens.
Now, unfortunately, I think that maybe one of the catalysts for that would be like accidental nuclear explosion of some sort.
Yeah, I don't know.
Maybe I don't have quite as gloomy a take on it as you.
But maybe that's just because I'm experiencing Alex's gloomy take.
jordan holmes
I don't know if it's a gloomy take.
I think it's just the problem is what you described.
A lot of the times, in order to not do something again, humans have to do it again.
dan friesen
Well, I see that as a possible catalyst.
There are other possible catalysts.
Totally, totally.
jordan holmes
It does seem like if you have that one, though...
Then you don't get to do the second part where you disarm.
dan friesen
Either way, whatever the reality and the possibility of this stuff is, it's disconnected from what Alex is saying.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah, 100%.
dan friesen
Alex is on one.
jordan holmes
I know, that's why I thought of it.
I was like, that's an interesting thought, and what he said is not.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Putin gave a speech that Alex is misrepresenting.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And hey, why not?
Let's have a two-for-one special.
Biden is also giving a speech that Alex is misrepresenting.
jordan holmes
Let's misrepresent them all.
alex jones
Biden is still bumbling and stumbling in a nighttime fascistic speech in Warsaw, Poland, on the border with Russia, rattling the nuclear sabers.
As soon as we get a transcript of it, we'll read excerpts of it.
dan friesen
This is pathetic.
Alex has not watched any of that speech, and he's characterizing it as nuclear saber rattling.
In reality, Biden was mostly talking about growing up in Claymont, Delaware, where there's a lot of Polish people around, and he, quote, grew up feeling self-conscious.
My name didn't end in a ski or an O. All right.
It's really appealing to the Polish population.
jordan holmes
Okay, fine.
dan friesen
He was also expressing appreciation for Poland, accepting 1.7 million displaced Ukrainians who fled after Putin invaded.
So, I mean, like, it's, you know, obviously, sure, there's also expressions of solidarity with NATO.
jordan holmes
Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But yeah, it's not like...
We're gonna fuck shit up.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, Putin did some like, hey, fuck you, and Biden was like, eh, well, let's just, mm, okay.
dan friesen
So there's all these speeches, and Alex decides he's gonna set an ambitious goal for himself, which as soon as I heard, I was like, he's not gonna do this shit.
alex jones
I have Putin's eight-page speech here, and I have clips of it that have English overdubs.
We're gonna be playing some clips.
But I really think this speech is so important.
unidentified
Wow.
alex jones
That I'm gonna read it in its entirety at the start of the next hour.
jordan holmes
Do it.
alex jones
And then we'll also play excerpts of Biden.
Maybe we'll play the whole thing.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's not a chance you're gonna read that whole speech.
First of all, because it doesn't work for you.
I mean, some parts of it do.
Like, little snippets of it definitely work.
Like, there is some stuff that...
Sounds like Alex, quite frankly.
If he were to cherry-pick stuff out of there, he could use it for his purposes.
But, like, it's long, and most of it isn't helpful.
Secondarily, like, you hear him like, maybe we'll play some of Biden's speech.
And then, like, the flip side of it is, you know, Putin's, basically his State of the Union is such an important speech.
You kind of get a sense of...
Who he looks up to.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I just heard eight pages and I was like, oh, I'm not worried.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's not reading that shit.
jordan holmes
If it was eight paragraphs, I'd be like, oh, boy, I'm not worried.
dan friesen
Eight sentences.
unidentified
Getting closer.
jordan holmes
Yeah, a 50-50 shot at that.
dan friesen
Eight words, maybe.
He'll read seven of the eight accurately and then he'll make up the other one.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So, you know, we got world leaders who are saying various things.
Biden's giving a fascistic speech in Poland.
jordan holmes
Wow, what a weird place to do that too, right?
dan friesen
Putin is threatening nukes in the most important speech that Alex has ever heard.
But what, say, Trump?
alex jones
Let's go ahead and first play a clip of Trump.
And he's absolutely right.
Trump, if he was president, could end this war by snapping his fingers.
Here's the clip.
unidentified
From the day I took over, but from the night I won.
And I call two people.
You know the two people, Lord?
Putin, right?
You know Putin and Zelensky.
alex jones
And I say, we're going to meet.
unidentified
We're going to meet.
And I guarantee I could work that out.
I guarantee.
I know exactly what I say, by the way.
I know exactly.
I tell one guy this, and I tell one guy that, and I say, you better make a deal.
We would have a deal made in 24 hours.
President...
alex jones
Well, that's right, because Trump knows that the West is running this war and the United States is running NATO.
So picture NATO is a big robot that's remote control.
Wow.
And it's starting World War III on the border with Russia right now.
And so Trump knows if he was in the White House, he'd be in control of that robot.
And Hillary said she wanted war with Russia if she got elected six-plus years ago, but she didn't.
The spiral or fraud.
And so for four years, we didn't have this war start.
But now, a year after Biden gets in, it all kicks off.
And U.S. forces and NATO forces were in there killing Russians, Russians killing them.
I mean, I know a lot of people.
jordan holmes
NATO forces are not in there.
alex jones
That have already served multiple terrors in the Ukraine war long before.
jordan holmes
No, you absolutely do not.
alex jones
Launched a counteroffensive.
jordan holmes
Multiple tours.
alex jones
And that's what the police action was.
And I'm not defending Putin or Russia.
I'm not a Russophile.
I don't lionize Russia.
But Russia is not on our doorstep, and Russia did not start this.
jordan holmes
Yes, they did!
dan friesen
They did.
jordan holmes
That is how...
Words work!
dan friesen
So Alex knows multiple people who have served multiple tours in the last year.
jordan holmes
Give me a fucking name.
Give me how long their tour was.
Give me where they were based out of.
dan friesen
Can't do it because I'm making it up.
jordan holmes
Give me any bit of a tour.
A tour.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
A tour.
dan friesen
Yeah.
They got stop loss.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
What are we doing?
dan friesen
There's a draft, actually, that's going to be.
We're right around the corner from Alex scaring people about the draft coming back.
jordan holmes
There's a lot.
dan friesen
War in Ukraine.
jordan holmes
There's a lot of sad fiancés in Tennessee just waiting for their future husbands to come home from that tour in Ukraine.
dan friesen
Dearest Myrtle, I found myself outside the Donbass.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
It's been a long time since I've thought of Greg Giraldo.
dan friesen
So, wild nonsense.
But also, so weird.
What would he need to do?
To consider himself pro-Putin.
jordan holmes
I mean...
dan friesen
Like, what level...
I guess he'd...
Like, he probably thinks that his support of Trump was, like, right on the lower level of Trump's support.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, like...
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Crying about how he would die for Trump is like, this is just rational support for a politician.
unidentified
I kind of like him a little bit.
jordan holmes
You know, I like him.
He's just a god king.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like any one of us.
dan friesen
He thinks that the way he treats Putin is, like, nuanced.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And, like, just kind of like, hey, conditional support.
Go into this guy.
Meanwhile, I'm gonna just completely lie about stuff in service of making him out to be the good guy here.
jordan holmes
It breaks my heart that people listen to Trump say shit like that and then cheer or clap or don't go, jump into a fire!
Like, I don't understand.
Because here's the thing.
It would take me more than 24 hours to even understand why they're really fighting.
It would take more than 24 hours to learn the history of Russia and Ukraine.
To learn what it is that you would even be trying to achieve with this treaty.
Are you trying to just stop the war?
Or are you trying to make something that lasts as peace?
dan friesen
He's probably just thinking, I could bully these guys.
unidentified
Exactly!
jordan holmes
Yeah.
That's an insane person!
dan friesen
Now, also, just while we're on the subject of Trump, there was a clip going around of him at McDonald's.
I don't know if you saw this.
jordan holmes
No!
What?
dan friesen
Yeah, so he's ordering some stuff at McDonald's in Ohio.
He went to, like, East Palestine.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
And he says to the people, what's your special today?
And, like, people were saying, like, oh, yeah, like, making fun of it.
Like, he's being funny.
He doesn't think that there's a daily special at McDonald's?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I used to work at, like, fast food places, and there would be some people who would have that, like, cute flourish or whatever.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
I feel like people taking that seriously is a little bit, like, that's...
Nonsense.
jordan holmes
That makes no sense to me whatsoever, not least of which because Trump is probably the only president in my lifetime who 100% understands the McDonald's menu.
dan friesen
And he makes that point.
jordan holmes
He makes that point.
dan friesen
He makes that point in the video.
jordan holmes
I mean, he brought the fucking winners of the Super Bowl.
No, wasn't it the Golden State Warriors or something to the White House and fed them a giant McDonald's dinner?
dan friesen
He says to the McDonald's workers, I know the menu better than you.
jordan holmes
He does!
I bet he fucking does!
dan friesen
I don't know about his ability to memorize things.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's fair.
dan friesen
But yeah, I think he has some familiarity.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a man who knows McDonald's.
dan friesen
But yeah, I actually thought that was funny.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's legitimately for him.
dan friesen
It's funny in the like...
Street joke to a person who works at a fast food place.
You know, like, oh, what's the daily, my regards to the chef, or something like that.
jordan holmes
I mean, when the member of the waitstaff comes to our table and I'm eating with my family, my dad will do many jokes similarly in vain.
dan friesen
Yeah, they're not meant to be serious.
People taking that seriously.
That's unfair.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you gotta figure out what it is we're really mad at if you're taking that seriously.
dan friesen
So Alex plays a clip of Biden here, and I think he really wants it to sound worse than it does, but it doesn't really sound that bad, and so he's gotta really vamp and just go dark afterwards.
alex jones
Here's a little bit of the beginning of Biden's nighttime rally he just had in Warsaw, Poland.
unidentified
Hello, Poland!
You are great allies.
President Judah, Prime Minister, Mr. Prime Minister, Mr. Mayor, all former ministers and presidents, as well as mayors and Polish political leaders from all across the country, thank you for welcoming back to Poland.
Now it was nearly one year ago.
I spoke at the Royal Council here in Warsaw.
Just weeks after Vladimir Putin had unleashed his murderous assault on Ukraine, the largest land war in Europe since World War II had begun.
And the principles that have been the cornerstone of peace, prosperity, and stability on this planet for more than 75 years were at risk of being shattered.
One year ago, The world was bracing for the fall of Keeve.
Well, I just come from a visit to Keeve, and I can report Keeve stands strong.
Keeve stands proud.
It stands tall.
And most importantly, it stands free.
alex jones
That's enough.
Let's come back with more of it.
Zelensky was elected.
With the promise of peace that accelerated the proxy war.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
And he now has shut down all opposition parties, including loyal opposition that were pro-war.
He shut down the Orthodox Church.
And he's torturing and killing tens of thousands of people every week or so.
I'm sorry?
And executing people in public.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
Running around raping and killing.
unidentified
We're hearing Ukraine is free?
alex jones
And are we free?
With Joe Biden declaring conservatives and white people the number one terror threat, dissolving our borders and letting them ship in fentanyl and smuggle children by the hundreds of thousands.
It's incredible.
dan friesen
It is incredible.
And that it's not credible.
So what happened here is that Alex hadn't viewed that clip in advance, and he thought it would work a little better for the narratives that he'd been building.
Once it played and it was pretty innocuous, he needed to do some heavy lifting himself, hence the rambling about how evil Zelensky is.
None of that stuff that Alex is saying here is stuff that he can really substantiate, but I wanted to talk about the torture thing for a moment here.
What Alex is referring to when he says that Zelensky is torturing people to death on a That had been liberated.
That's the area that had been...
that was previously occupied by Russia.
Sure.
unidentified
Those were Russian torture chambers.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
Ukrainian forces are not without criticism for actions that are taken, you know, in the context of the war.
But what Alex is doing here is disgusting whitewashing for Russia's militarism.
You could say that once all the facts are out in the open, he'll be shown to be a promoter of torture and human rights abuse, but I think we all know that he exists within his own reality, and that day of reckoning is never coming.
Cecil still pretends that Trump is the president.
It doesn't matter.
He can take news about Ukraine finding torture chambers in liberated areas that were previously held by Russia, and he can say, oh my god, Zelensky is torturing people to death thousands a week or whatever.
It's outrageous.
jordan holmes
Think about living in Russia.
Either you know, as a Russian citizen, that your government and your military is torturing people after they launched a war of conquest on them, or you believe whatever it is that Putin says.
So I don't see why that would be any different for Alex.
True.
Plenty of people know that their army is doing shit and Alex gets to say whatever he wants.
dan friesen
And what I think is kind of interesting about that dynamic is that Alex doesn't even really seem that interested in taking in all of Putin's speech.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because, like, you know, it's one thing to, like, be someone like Alex, but, like...
Take in the speech, really work with the talking points that are being expressed by Putin.
And it's another thing to just be like, yeah, I kind of get what he's saying.
I've heard a few clips or whatever, and I'll make up the defenses myself for the rest of it.
It is strange.
He's taking on a lot of that labor himself, and part of the reason is because it's too hard.
alex jones
And, of course, the truth is they went in, they overthrew governments, they blew up government buildings, they mowed police down with machine guns, they sent in the weapons, they destabilized Ukraine, and all Putin wanted was don't make it part of NATO and stop it.
But, of course, that didn't happen.
And now Putin has taken the bait and gone there.
You know, I said I was going to read over Putin's speech, but it's long, it's important.
I'm going to have Ben in there, the room right through the window, post the full speech.
Putin gave last night, please.
A transcript of it under the live show feed.
dan friesen
Nah, it's too long.
Can't do it.
alex jones
Yep.
dan friesen
All Putin wanted was them to not be a part of NATO and stop it.
What does that mean?
What does a stop it mean?
jordan holmes
That means stop existing outside of the Soviet Union.
dan friesen
Stop it.
jordan holmes
I mean, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I mean, I'm sorry.
Not the Soviets.
Whoa, something completely different.
Putin doesn't have any interest in the USSR whatsoever.
dan friesen
I understand the demand of not be a part of NATO, because that's specific.
Stop it is a little bit vague.
jordan holmes
I mean, stop getting rid of any sort of corruption.
I genuinely don't know.
dan friesen
Stop claiming your territorial integrity in terms of the Donbass region.
Crimea and all this.
Stop your independentness.
jordan holmes
It is a testament to the fact that Alex knows how wrong he is.
That he refuses to engage with Putin's shit.
dan friesen
I don't think so.
I think it's lazy.
jordan holmes
Putin is comically evil.
Comically evil, unless you're underneath the sway of his own propaganda.
dan friesen
Yeah, but here's the thing.
I disagree with you because the non-engagement that he's doing here is not reading Putin's speech.
jordan holmes
Well, that's fair.
dan friesen
Which is not comically evil because it's him saying the things.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You know, there is the shiny veneer of propaganda already on there.
Alex is not engaging with that because he's fucking lazy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that I agree with you on.
dan friesen
He's not engaging with the larger world as it exists because it would threaten the fragile narrative stability that he has about who are the good guys, who are the bad guys, and what's really going on.
jordan holmes
And his fundamental worldview exists only on the level of the person I like is doing evil things, so I have to justify those by saying the people that I don't like are doing more.
True.
If he were to learn about Putin, he would not be able to do that.
Putin is comically evil.
dan friesen
But here's the problem.
He already knows this stuff.
He's just pretending he doesn't know it.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm saying.
I told you he pretends he's not knowing.
dan friesen
Go back in time and he knows all the shit about the apartment bombings and the Chechens.
Now, oh no, I don't know any of that stuff.
That's all fake news.
jordan holmes
He's keeping it from his audience on purpose.
And he's keeping it from himself on purpose.
dan friesen
But we see that same dynamic play out over and over again.
The best example I can think of in recent memory is the Bill Barr remembering things about him whenever he was against Bush and then conveniently forgetting them whenever he was the Patriots Attorney General.
It's pathetic.
And it's abusive to the audience.
Anyway, we now enter a period of the show where Alex is...
I mean, I don't know how else to describe this other than killing time.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
Based on the conversation we've had, it took me a second to realize that killing time meant like he is...
Wasting time.
Because we've been talking a lot about killing, so I was like, I'm worried he's about to say, it's killing time.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
Do you see where my head went?
dan friesen
He's not the thing, and it is not clobbering time.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
dan friesen
But he is just like, poof.
He spends a lot of time talking about various nuclear weapons.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Various types of nuclear weapons.
dan friesen
Yeah, and then he just lists off other weapons and stuff.
jordan holmes
Great.
alex jones
We also know the Russians have a lot of weapons they haven't rolled out.
The U.S. has them as well.
That are high-powered, basically particle beam radiation guns.
jordan holmes
Sorry, what now?
alex jones
And the problem is they're very large and hard to hide.
You've got a lot of, up to a foot of lead shielding, jacketing them on the back end of them.
And those weapons you can then just basically aim from a hilltop or an area of topography that is at the median level.
Then they widen out the spectrum of the beam, depending on how powerful they want it, to say 100 feet tall and about a millimeter wide.
And then you just fry all the life as you move that beam through the structures.
And I would imagine you'll start seeing those before they roll out.
The tactical nukes and the neutron bombs.
And again, I'm just going off the reports of the specs I've read, the things I've seen.
I'm not an engineer.
I'm not a nuclear physicist.
I'm not giving you the proper parlance or nomenclature.
I'm not laying out the types of things that are there.
Then there's bioweapons.
dan friesen
Sure.
alex jones
There are race-specific bioweapons.
jordan holmes
No, there are not.
alex jones
There are...
Already mutated viral lines that mutate very quickly so they only kill the first or second wave of people you release.
That's if you don't want to blow back on you.
jordan holmes
That doesn't work.
alex jones
There obviously are a lot of advanced chemical weapons.
And I would expect you're going to see the radiation guns, the particle beam guns.
They've also got high-powered...
dan friesen
I'm so bored.
He's just listing off terrifying weapons.
jordan holmes
He's listing off sci-fi weapons.
dan friesen
Well, some of them, yes.
And it is interesting to note, I think, that Alex has this 20-year preoccupation with race-specific bioweapons.
It is just something that...
unidentified
I mean, it would be...
dan friesen
Almost surprising to recognize that he is a racist and is obsessed with race-specific bioweapons if that were not the opposite of surprising.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, the idea of race-specific bioweapons is only there to justify the idea that there are different races.
No one would create that, not least of which because we know that's not how things work.
If there's anything that COVID should have taught everybody, it's that bioweapons and viruses and the shit like that mutate beyond your control.
You don't have control of them.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, we heard very clearly through a large portion of the early time of the COVID outbreak that Alex was saying it was a race-specific bioweapon.
And maybe the Chinese government released it on their own people in order.
Mm-hmm.
It's just something that he always...
It's always there in his mind.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and it makes sense to him because race is real to him, and it's not real, and neither are race-specific bioweapons.
dan friesen
So, we have now a list of all these weapons.
So many weapons.
And that leads, Alex, to describing basically an end-of-the-world scenario.
And I didn't have a clip of this, but earlier in the episode, he did describe this as his prediction of the next year.
So keep in mind...
jordan holmes
So this is our 2023 prediction?
dan friesen
Well, I guess so.
It's as close as we've gotten so far.
Because he said that there's a 100% chance of tactical nukes being used.
And then there's an 80% chance after that point of all-out nuclear war.
And he said he thinks it's going to happen within the next year.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So keep in mind that this...
Is what you have to look forward to before Christmas.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
The Western war planners, with all of their meteor guns in orbit...
jordan holmes
They have meteor guns in orbit?
alex jones
...and decapitation weapons that aren't nuclear or hydrogen but use kinetic energy of DU's Shabot rounds, will then try to decapitate the Russian leadership.
unidentified
They will probably fail.
alex jones
And those around Putin are even more hardline.
If they do, that's probably even worse.
And then at that point, I don't think the West is going to wait.
They'll launch a full attack on all Russian assets.
They'll get 80% of it, 70% of it, and then the Russian submarines will completely destroy North America.
Then China and India and Pakistan are going to start nuking each other.
We'll come back and talk about that straight ahead.
dan friesen
So that's...
That's a lot.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, they're going to see us nuke each other, and they're like, well, we want to get in on the nuking action.
We're not just going to not nuke people if we know that nukes are flying.
dan friesen
We've got to get in on it while it's hot.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
We don't want to be the last person to nuke anybody.
dan friesen
So we've got meteor weapons and sabot rounds that are going to take out the Russian leadership but then fail, and then the U.S. is going to nuke Russian assets, and then North America.
America is gone.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
Then China and India and Pakistan are all going to nuke each other.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Bad times.
But what it's going to lead to is there's going to be fallout.
There's going to be nuclear winter.
And that's going to be tough.
And Alex laments that in this next clip.
jordan holmes
That's nice of him to lament it.
dan friesen
Well, it turns not so nice.
jordan holmes
Well, there we go.
dan friesen
But he does think it's going to be tough times all around.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
And then all the dust will cover the entire planet from 3 to 5, 10 years.
Lower temperatures on average, 10 degrees the estimates are.
So we'll have snow.
dan friesen
And farm.
alex jones
Eight months out of the year in places like South Dakota.
That'll cause farming yields to plunge.
Plus it'll all be radioactive.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would be the larger problem.
alex jones
You'll have the most dangerous thing.
Billions of people that weren't killed in the nuclear war but don't know how to grow food or fix an engine or roof their house or wipe their ass.
And they will, within weeks of this happening, burn everything down and kill each other.
If you think locusts landing on a wheat field in minutes, a big cloud of locusts comes in and...
In minutes, an entire hundred acres is just totally bare.
Big army ants going through the Brazilian rainforest.
You'll see the rainforest one day.
It's all beautiful and jungle.
After the army ants go through, not a leaf's left.
Same thing.
Think of World War Z for real.
jordan holmes
Analogies are going great today.
alex jones
So a lot of people will just hang themselves.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
But what about people that have children?
That's why I said the road we're on is going to lead to cannibalism.
dan friesen
Oh boy.
alex jones
And I was going off the modest proposal of Mr. Swift 300 years ago.
jordan holmes
Oh good, we're only going to eat the Irish.
alex jones
Why not just tell the Irish to gut up and fatten up their babies for sale to English lords and ladies?
So I said in this path of dystopia and economic collapse and...
Societal ruin.
I mean, I'd have to size up my liberal neighbors and eat them.
And I was really honest that I will not commit suicide and I will not give up on my children.
And so myself and my conservative neighbors will have to eat our leftist neighbors.
jordan holmes
Good call.
alex jones
And I'm sad we're going to have to eat you.
You kind of asked for it, and you kind of started a fight with people that know how to do that.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
They know how to do that?
jordan holmes
They know how to eat leftists.
You know, it never...
unidentified
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
jordan holmes
At no point in time does it occur to him that maybe some of those leftists might be good at composting and have a greenhouse.
dan friesen
Nah.
Here's the problem, though.
Based on his conception of leftists, they should be bad meat, right?
I mean, like, they're either unhealthy and their bodies are just...
jordan holmes
Eating a leftist is essentially eating vegan.
dan friesen
Yeah, they're full of soy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're not even meat.
dan friesen
No!
You're going to be eating impossible humans.
jordan holmes
You guys are the soy boys now!
dan friesen
Seems like you should want to eat the conservatives.
But I do think it's pretty fucking funny that, like...
Partisan politics is important in cannibalism.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
Once you're at that point, it's like, yeah, who did you vote for?
jordan holmes
Chop, chop.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So dumb.
jordan holmes
The worst of our worries is going to be cannibalism after nuclear winter fucking hits.
dan friesen
Yeah, I do love that thing, too, though, with the nuclear winter.
It's like, all this food is radiated, and there's so little of it.
I wish there was more radiated food.
Very bizarre.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this is dumb.
jordan holmes
The idea that 10 degrees, like, oh, hey, okay, you know.
Alright, it'll lower the temperature of the earth by about 10 degrees.
So I will totally still be alive to eat neighbors.
dan friesen
Right, there is a, there are just a cascading series of problems that are going to be coming about.
jordan holmes
You're going to be like, oh, we're going to live and I'm going to eat my neighbors and then a volcano's going to explode and you wouldn't have seen that shit coming.
That's nuclear winter for you, buddy.
dan friesen
Right.
Your liberal neighbor is going to be saved by a volcano out of nowhere when you're right about to eat neighbors.
Eat him.
So yeah, this is annoying a little bit that he's back to his cannibalism stuff.
But this becomes most of the rest of our episode.
jordan holmes
Cannibalism becomes most of the rest of our episode.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Okay, Dan.
dan friesen
So I know that he mentioned Jonathan Swift there.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I don't think he understands Amada's proposal.
jordan holmes
Still doesn't.
dan friesen
We're on year 20. He also is trying to say that what he's doing right now is satire.
But then listen to where he goes from there, because this is not satire.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
alex jones
And I'm sad we're going to have to beat you, but you kind of asked for it, and you kind of started a fight with people that know how to do that.
And you took our kindness for weakness.
And of course, this is really satire, but it goes there.
How many of you would let your five-year-old daughter or son starve to death during this collapse when the food runs out?
And a bunch of looters come through and are trying to burn your house down, and you don't have any food, but you've got bullets.
You're going to eat those people.
Don't lie about it, and don't act like you aren't.
I'm ready to eat people.
Now let's get real about this.
jordan holmes
Let's get real.
dan friesen
Come on, people.
unidentified
I'm ready to eat people!
dan friesen
This seems like a bad stand-up premise.
jordan holmes
Never occurs to any of these people to be like, oh, okay, so maybe these people have certain skills that will be useful to me, and I have skills that will be useful to them, thereby we can actually survive together as opposed to only one of us eating the other one.
dan friesen
You don't have food, but you got bullets.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
Well, maybe tell them that in exchange for food, you'll protect them from the looters.
dan friesen
Oh, wait, hold on a second.
If you have bullets, And humans are things that you can eat.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It would seem to imply that there might be some animals you could hunt.
You know, it wouldn't...
It seems like in that scenario, other sources of meat might be available somewhere.
jordan holmes
No, you don't understand.
dan friesen
That you could use those bullets on.
You don't have to use it on people.
jordan holmes
The animal kingdom does not have the left-right paradigm, and so none of them will survive.
dan friesen
You don't have leftist deer?
jordan holmes
There's no leftist deer!
There's no conservative deer, so none of them know which one to eat.
They just all die.
dan friesen
I was just hearing this as somebody on stage doing a stand-up bit, talking about, like, you're telling me that you're gonna not eat people?
Come on!
jordan holmes
Now, in the apocalypse, don't you know how leftists do this?
dan friesen
These dumb motherfuckers out here saying they aren't gonna eat people.
Get real!
Like, there just seems like a bad stand-up premise in there somewhere.
jordan holmes
Deaf nuclear winter jam would be fun.
dan friesen
It's...
So anyway, Alex seems really preoccupied with convincing the audience that cannibalism will be okay, and it may be good, actually.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
My neighbors don't have to worry.
I'm not over there.
Like Jeffrey Dahmer.
I'm saying the Pentagon studies, and I agree with them, show 90% of people, 15 days in, your sons, your daughters are starving to death.
And a horde of people that weren't prepared and ready come down your street.
They've already destroyed the city.
You live 100 miles out in the country.
And here they come at night, 30 people, trying to take your house.
They're going to eat your ass.
What are you going to do?
Because that's where this goes.
Let's get dead serious about it.
unidentified
Let's get dead serious about it.
alex jones
Looks like we're going to be making some beef jerky.
Looks like we're going to be surviving, because I will provide for my family.
We don't want to go there.
And mercifully, most of us in a nuclear war will be dead.
dan friesen
Oh, well, that's good news.
jordan holmes
Can I ask you a quick question about this plan of the nuclear apocalypse?
All right, so here's our plan.
We are going to eat people for sustenance.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Right.
One problem, most people are already dead.
So our food source is limited at best.
dan friesen
Well, unless, I mean, like, if people just died from starvation because of nuclear winter, you could just eat the dead people.
jordan holmes
I suppose you could eat the ones that are already dead.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But they're probably radiated.
Now, I bet the living ones are living people.
But even then, you go still further, and this is a functioning plan.
For how long before you actually have to start breeding to eat?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it would be a brief window.
jordan holmes
It would be a brief window.
This is not a successful survival plan.
dan friesen
Winter is not like...
It's not like the length of winter.
It will go a bit...
The consequences will go a bit longer.
And as you were saying, the 10 degree drop in temperature that Alex is describing would have just a domino effect on all kinds of other...
Problems.
jordan holmes
You think COVID quarantine is bad?
Wait until you get to nuclear winter quarantine when you're in a fucking cave 30 goddamn miles underground at best.
dan friesen
Wishing you could find a person.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Oh, I want to eat that person!
dan friesen
Yeah, I think this is dumb.
And, I mean, obviously it's so excessive.
It goes on for a while.
And you just can tell that he's like, can someone pay attention to me, please?
I'm saying stupid shit, and I just really, really want...
jordan holmes
Someone clip this and put it on Twitter, please.
dan friesen
Exactly.
And it kind of...
jordan holmes
Where's media matters?
dan friesen
It kind of becomes really obvious.
alex jones
Mercifully, most of us in a nuclear war will be dead.
We'll die when the 2,000-foot...
Air bursts, detonates at 2,000 feet, and you're just blown to bits in a fireball.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Fun.
alex jones
So it kind of takes the decision away from you.
But there's a big national news story.
Alex Jones is ready to eat his neighbors again.
And all I'm doing is showing you where this goes, and I'm asking you, what would you do?
All right.
Speaking of...
jordan holmes
If your son was at home?
alex jones
We're not eating our neighbors yet.
We need funds to run this operation and stay here at our post and fight the New World Order.
We've got products that if you'll just try them, I know 99% of the listeners spread the word and pray for the show and we appreciate it, but man, you ought to buy a product.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's weaving it into an ad and then also making it very clear that he's imagining someone writing an article about this.
He's trying to bait people into coverage because...
He needs more eyes on his shit.
He needs some kind of publicity stunt wherever he can find it because shit's bad right now with the bankruptcy court, which is why he's doing this severe gloomy nonsense to begin with.
This is just like a guy in a bad place lashing out through content.
I don't know.
I mean, some of it's kind of funny, but I don't know.
It does not strike me as particularly meaningful.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's fun that he used the words death spiral because it does seem like he's trapped in a constantly negative reinforcement of making a shittier and shittier show.
Like, as he gets more sad...
He's less able to do the things that made him an attractive meme topic in the first place.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So then he tries even more pathetically to do it, fails, makes himself more sad.
dan friesen
And going back to the thing that worked the last time, not realizing really that, like, oh, you've already played this song.
jordan holmes
It was the novelty.
dan friesen
It's not shocking really anymore.
You already screamed about eating your neighbors and now saying, like, no, no, but for real.
I'll eat my neighbors, and you should get ready to eat your neighbors, too.
Eh, people aren't really all that interested.
jordan holmes
And you didn't have the punch, which is, I will barbecue your ass.
That's the punchline, you know?
dan friesen
Yeah, I will eat your leftist ass.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the way to do it.
dan friesen
Yeah, that was good trolling to begin with, and now this is just kind of a pathetic attempt to, like, play the hits.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And no one cares.
jordan holmes
Everything's going to be weaker and weaker and weaker from here on out.
dan friesen
Diminishing returns on your cannibalism obsession.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that one's still weird, but I don't really care.
dan friesen
Alex, creativity is an asset.
It's a virtue.
And one of the things that is fun about the first time he screamed about eating his neighbors was that it was out of nowhere.
It was a novelty.
jordan holmes
It was truly out of nowhere.
dan friesen
There was a novelty to it.
That's what we need.
And unfortunately, I just don't think he has a lot of that in him.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
And then he was talking about your children.
Would you not feed your five or six-year-old if they were starving?
I don't want to think about that.
I want you to tell me that you will secretly feed your children your neighbors.
That's fun.
I don't want you to tell me that people will have to make hard choices.
I want you to tell me that you're such a fucking weirdo.
You'll feed people to your children without telling them.
That's what I want to hear.
dan friesen
I mean, all this screams is like...
Your life's not going great, and you shouldn't have custody of your kids.
That's all that I'm hearing here.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm hearing that a lot.
dan friesen
So, look, I have bad news.
Mike Adams is on the show, and he has sort of free reign over the last two hours of the show, which means I'm not going to listen to most of it.
No.
But here he is, being dramatic as hell, because he's a little baby.
mike adams
I mean, we're watching a suicide cult actually achieve the mass suicide of the human race right now.
And it's people like you and I and all the InfoWarriors, those watching, we're trying to stop the total suicide of the human race right now.
alex jones
That's a perfect way to describe it.
It's a globalist death cult, transhumanist cult, and anybody that signs on to it either doesn't know what's happening or is under Stockholm Syndrome.
And really, if you quantify it down to its basics, it's are you pro-future or anti-future?
And what you said is very key.
This isn't just a war on homo sapiens.
When you really study the globalists, putting poison in the atmosphere, poisoning the ground, aluminum dioxide, barium salt, all this, they're at war against the planet.
Yes.
mike adams
Yes.
alex jones
I think it's aliens terraforming.
I mean, because I logically don't cover flying saucers and all that.
You can't prove it.
But if you logically war game, and I've talked to some top generals who agree.
It's like an anti-human force.
What they're doing, you come to the same conclusion, just isn't human.
dan friesen
I get it.
You read Childhood's End and you think it's real.
Come on.
jordan holmes
Now, one way you could look at this is that a profit motive outweighs the environmental impact of many of our corporations' choices.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
Thus, meaning it's not terraforming.
It's maybe just capitalism, not aliens.
And that you cannot even imagine the idea that capitalism could be at fault for this.
So much so that you are willing to go, well, obviously that can't be it.
It's aliens.
dan friesen
Well, you have to exclude that as a possibility because that's anathema to his worldview.
And therefore you have to accept the...
Not logically provable scenario that it's aliens terraforming the planet, much like in this book I read when I was a kid and think is real.
jordan holmes
Logically, the only conclusion I can come to is that it's aliens.
dan friesen
Well, it's childhood's end.
This is just the plot of childhood's end.
jordan holmes
It's a very strange sentence.
dan friesen
Fucking idiot.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Anyway, we have one last clip here.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because there's not...
I'm not listening to hours of Mike Adams.
That's what I will say.
I have...
Certain lines in the sand.
I'll listen to a little Mike Adams.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I hate his voice.
jordan holmes
It's so annoying.
dan friesen
I think he is one of the most annoying people in terms of just like his theatrics and his maudlin.
It's over for humanity.
Repeatedly, just constant.
And like, there's one point where Alex is like...
Oh my god, you've never said this is the biggest news you've ever broken.
This must be serious.
I was like, if I had time, I would go back through and find all the times he said this is the biggest news.
It's just constant over and over again, pretending yesterday doesn't exist.
It's just annoying.
But this last clip.
jordan holmes
We need more pie-based...
Responses.
dan friesen
Do you mean 3.14 or pie the food?
jordan holmes
Pie the food.
I'm not the food.
I'm talking more just a basic cream pie.
The prop.
Yeah, like the idea that Mike Adams can say that and then Alex says that is like, just pie him in the face.
dan friesen
Just a regular old pie.
It's a disrespect to the audience in as much as like, do you really think people don't remember the last time Mike?
jordan holmes
That's absurd.
dan friesen
And it turns out maybe they don't.
jordan holmes
I mean, fine.
But...
Pie.
dan friesen
So Alex recently was out of studio for a while.
He was clearing his head, getting back in the zone.
It turns out he had gone to Cancun for an extended vacation with his family.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Really, really struggling.
Really suffering amongst these financial burdens that he has.
You know, he's just, you know, your everyman taking constant vacations, maybe even international ones.
jordan holmes
Sure!
dan friesen
And bringing security along for these international vacations.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry?
dan friesen
And sometimes these security guards overhear things.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry?
alex jones
Well, not to bring myself into this, but I'm a bellwether, like a gauge or a sensor.
I took off some time, went to Cancun a few weeks ago, had to take off to reset my brain.
Hadn't been there in like four or five years.
And I was there for five days.
And I brought a bodyguard who, when I was on the beach with my daughter and family, he just sat back under the palapas or whatever.
And there were all these liberals going, I used to hate him, but I've got to admit he's right.
This is crazy.
All he heard was positive stuff.
For five days, I was out on the beach, volleyball and football and building sandcastles.
I was out there building sandcastles with my kid in an attempt to make a redoubt.
jordan holmes
I mean...
dan friesen
Yeah, so this is, like, fun.
Uh, made up kind of stuff that he does all the time.
Or, like, even if you imagine that this person did say this stuff to Alex, he's on your payroll.
It's your bodyguard who's like, oh, hey boss, I overheard some people talking about how they're liberals, but they realize you're really cool now.
jordan holmes
I was about to say word for word what you just said.
dan friesen
Yeah.
This is unreliable narrator's shit, but like...
But also like a Russian nesting dog.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's two unreliable narrators here.
dan friesen
Yeah, well, two possible unreliable narrators, one or the other, or maybe both.
jordan holmes
I would say both is the most likely scenario.
dan friesen
Who knows?
jordan holmes
I would say both that it never happened and that the security guard was lying either way.
dan friesen
That is, I mean, that's really the only question here.
How many lies are here?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
What's the number?
What's the top number that we can be experiencing?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Cool, man.
Cool.
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Never mind.
I was going to say maybe he wouldn't be in these financial straits if he didn't take all these constant vacations.
jordan holmes
I think there's something else hanging over his head beyond budgetary.
dan friesen
That's why I decided not to make that declaration.
jordan holmes
I can have budget problems.
He has a $1.5 billion settlement on his head.
dan friesen
Yeah, also, maybe you wouldn't have to eat your neighbors for a much longer time if you took that money that you spent on a fucking extended vacation to Cancun and put it into that survival food you sell.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, here's the thing.
It makes more sense.
Look, if I knew that the world was about to end...
I am not going to stock up to try and survive it.
Fuck that noise.
I'm going to go take a bunch of vacations.
That's what I would rather...
I'm going to celebrate the time I have left.
dan friesen
To smoke him while he got him.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
And that I respect way more than being like, okay, when the world ends, we're going to eke out another couple six months and then we'll die.
Ah, that sucks.
I don't want to do that.
Boo!
dan friesen
Well, Alex's primary business model is based on survival bullshit and survival food and stuff, so you can't really give him that credit.
He's just a selfish fuck who's taking this vacation.
jordan holmes
If you are telling me that we've got a year left, why am I going to work?
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
Why would I want to spend the last year of my and the rest of human life's work working?
dan friesen
Well, what if you work at the resort in Cancun?
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a good point.
dan friesen
Then someone's gotta go to work in order for you to have your vacation.
jordan holmes
Don't tell them that the world's gonna be over in a year.
dan friesen
See, now that's abusive.
Maybe you love your job.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
I get it.
No, of course.
I get enjoying the time while you have it.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But I also think that there's something to be said for, like, hey, if small preparations can be made so you don't have to eat your neighbors.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Maybe that's good, too.
Maybe there's space for both.
jordan holmes
We have to negotiate whether or not my biggest problem is do I have to or not eat my neighbors?
dan friesen
Do you want human jerky?
jordan holmes
If I have other problems.
dan friesen
Trying to come up with a pun about the jerky boys.
It's not working.
I think because it's just right there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because it's just jerky boys.
Those boys are jerky now.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's about it.
Too easy of a pun.
jordan holmes
Let me ask you a question.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Shaped like people?
Will you eat them?
Not shaped like people?
Will you eat them?
dan friesen
I think that you have to be a real sick fuck to be in the apocalypse and make human jerky and then shape it like a person.
jordan holmes
He's a jerky bread man.
dan friesen
You are...
You gotta go.
I'm gonna eat you if you do that.
unidentified
Quite frankly, you're first to go.
dan friesen
Because that kind of mentality has no place in my future society.
jordan holmes
What, you don't want a little sense of humor to your apocalypse?
dan friesen
Not that kind of humor.
jordan holmes
Okay, well that's fair.
dan friesen
Look, a little bit of humor is great.
jordan holmes
Too soon.
Too soon.
dan friesen
If you make the human jerky in the shape of, like, animals.
Fine.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Great, because that takes your mind off.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're like, oh, see, I'm actually eating.
Yeah, I get it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Look, I love the idea of humor in that post-apocalypse in the form of physical comedy.
Maybe someone does some pratfalls.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
A little bit.
jordan holmes
Well, bananas are too radiated to slip upon.
dan friesen
Well, you understand that at dark, dark times, you know, like...
That's when comedy has to become someone falling down.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because we just need benign pain being...
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
For all my enjoyment of clever jokes, in the apocalypse, we're all just going to watch Three Stooges.
That's it.
dan friesen
You want wordplay?
No.
jordan holmes
No.
No, I do not.
The world is in.
dan friesen
You want...
unidentified
Slaps.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's what I want.
I want weird noises.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So, anyway, this is what Alex is up to in the present.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep.
And the apocalypse, I assume, he will be eating people.
dan friesen
Well, and he wants you to.
He's sort of like an evangelist of cannibalism.
jordan holmes
He's trying to convince people it's a good idea to eat people.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Which is odd.
dan friesen
Somehow, like, you're not serving your children if you don't serve them people.
jordan holmes
See, and here again, if my plan was cannibalism, I'm telling no one about that, otherwise I am just, I'm detracting from my own food source.
dan friesen
And again, that's a fine point.
jordan holmes
Is that a fine point?
dan friesen
Hypothetically.
It's not relevant because this is just a desperate attempt on Alex's part to get people to pay attention to him.
I mean, I think it failed because I haven't seen anyone giving a shit about this.
jordan holmes
No, you strongly tried not to give a shit about this.
dan friesen
I mean, look, if it's the present day stuff that he's going on about, it's so goddamn boring that if that oeuvre, I would...
Much rather listen to him talk about eating people and then discuss how this is a desperate attempt for people to pay attention to him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
That is something that at least is like, well, here, we can make sense of this and see there's desperate PR attempts.
Or not PR, but you know what I mean.
Like marketing, trying to trick people into doing promotion for him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
At least there's that.
As opposed to just a no man's land of...
False reality lies.
Dumb shit.
Anyway, we'll be back.
jordan holmes
Indeed we will.
dan friesen
With another episode, probably in the past, because there was no conversation about eating people back then.
But until then, Jordan, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do indeed.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep.
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight.
dan friesen
Yes.
And we'll be back.
But until then, I'm the Dan Friesen of the host.
I don't know how to make that work.
Never mind.
I'm still just Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
Oh, you know what?
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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