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Feb. 17, 2023 - Knowledge Fight
01:27:38
#777: An X-Men Scenario Is Coming

Today, with the news that Alex's podcast may be defunct and the sadness setting in at the possibility of never getting to see that painting show, Dan and Jordan attempt to lift their spirits by checking in on Sweary Kerry to see if she can help put the recent news about UFOs and balloons into focus.

Participants
Main voices
d
dan friesen
38:40
j
jordan holmes
25:42
k
kerry cassidy
19:12
Appearances
a
alex jones
01:00
Clips
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steve quayle
00:02
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
knowledge fight need money stop it it's time to pray Andy in Kansas you're on the air thanks for holding us hello Alex I'm a first time calling my future I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody!
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
unidentified
I'm Dan.
Jordan!
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan!
Jordan!
jordan holmes
I have a quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot today is Sour Patch Strawberries.
I did not know they existed until the other day.
They might be something new, but I'm not sure.
Pretty good.
jordan holmes
Sour Patch Strawberries?
Oh, oh.
That's a different thing.
I thought it was like a strawberry flavored...
No, this is a...
It's in the shape of a strawberry.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Ah, okay.
Now I'm understanding.
dan friesen
I do not like Sour Patch Kids.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I've never been a fan of them.
When I used to work at the movie theater, Forum 8, in Columbia, we had Sour Patch Kids.
And Sour Patch Watermelons.
And the Sour Patch Watermelons were fantastic.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
They were great.
I don't know what it is.
Maybe it's a little less sour or whatever, but man, they were the shit.
I would steal so many bags of those.
And then they'd go into spoilage, so inventory wouldn't be off.
Revealing the tricks of the trade here.
unidentified
That's the way to do it.
jordan holmes
That's the way to do it.
dan friesen
But yeah, I've always liked the watermelons.
Not like the Sour Patch Kids.
And now we have another flavor in the mix.
Like I said, I don't know if it's new.
I've never seen it before.
Fantastic.
Strawberries.
jordan holmes
Fantastic?
Woo!
I suspect deeply.
I suspect deeply that there is a psychological trigger in you that refuses to allow you to eat children.
Regardless of what format they may or may not be in.
dan friesen
I don't like gingerbread kids.
So we got one down.
jordan holmes
What kid-shaped...
I mean, you don't even eat animal crackers, do you?
dan friesen
I mean, I would.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you wouldn't.
You don't have an ethical...
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
If they're put in front of me, I'll eat them.
I can't imagine seeking out animal crackers.
But the frosted ones, I wouldn't seek those out either.
jordan holmes
Those are gross.
You think they're going to be good, and then you eat them, and you find yourself disgusted.
dan friesen
So it's your bright spot, and while you're telling me, I will think of other kid-shaped things.
jordan holmes
To see if you would eat one.
How about a Garbage Patch Kid?
dan friesen
That's Garbage Pail Kid, and that's a series of cards.
Those aren't food, and they're disgusting.
jordan holmes
Did I think there was an evil version?
dan friesen
Well, there's the Cabbage Patch Kids.
Oh, okay, okay.
That's what Garbage Pail Kids were a parody of.
jordan holmes
Okay, now I get it.
dan friesen
And those are also not candies.
unidentified
Those are dolls.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
My bright spot is Lil Yachty's album.
I have been a staunch hater of Lil Yachty because I don't appreciate his signature tone, which is annoying.
His autotune voice is annoying.
He picked a weird, like...
Like he's underwater all the time.
It annoys me.
dan friesen
Well, he's named Yachty.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yes, exactly.
dan friesen
I mean, you have to be water-themed.
jordan holmes
And he's not a great lyricist.
However, what he has done is something crazy.
Out of left field, he has made what, by my estimation, is a prog rock album to fuck to, which I don't think anybody ever asked for or knew could happen.
dan friesen
I think if you go through Rush's catalog, you'll find that this has already been done.
jordan holmes
I mean, in a reasonable time signature, I think is more what we're...
dan friesen
Well, maybe you're just not fucking ambitiously enough.
jordan holmes
I mean, I'm not gonna fuck in a 5-4.
I'm just not.
dan friesen
Neil Peart sets the rhythm.
It's impossible to keep up with.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the staccato.
dan friesen
Well, that's fun.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's surprisingly good.
I kind of like it.
I was definitely not going to see that coming from, I think he was like a TikTok rapper or something.
dan friesen
Does it still sound like underwater singing?
jordan holmes
Yeah, but if you're on a prog rock concept album, that makes sense.
You're like, okay, fine.
Now I'm in the...
You can't be like...
Oh, I could definitely see Jay-Z and then hear that and you're like, no, no, no, absolutely not.
Unacceptable.
You know?
This works.
It works.
dan friesen
I'm happy to hear that.
jordan holmes
I like it.
Any other kid-shaped foods?
dan friesen
I googled it and I didn't find anything.
Gingerbread kids.
And I was thinking of like the Teddy Grahams, but those aren't kids.
jordan holmes
Those are not children.
dan friesen
Those are teddies.
jordan holmes
No, I was thinking of goldfish and then I was like, no, I ate those as a kid.
dan friesen
Those are fish.
jordan holmes
Completely different.
dan friesen
I can't think.
There has to be something.
There's got to be something.
But yeah, I guess I'm 0 for 2. Maybe a lot of people don't want to eat kid-shaped things.
It might be.
So Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
But before we do, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Sarah, I like you and I love you and I'm going to do the dishes eventually.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
I relate to that one about the dishes.
jordan holmes
Good luck.
dan friesen
Next, Connor, my pal, my homeboy, my rotten soldier, my sweet cheese, my good time boy.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Next, Ulcibiades did nothing wrong.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
I'm very self-conscious.
I don't think I know how to pronounce that guy's name.
jordan holmes
I don't know who that guy is.
dan friesen
He's an old-time statesman.
jordan holmes
Ah.
dan friesen
Next, Smooth Dan Ark.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And John Williams composing anthems of rage every time Alex plays Star Wars music.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
And we got a couple technocrats in the mix here, Jordan.
So first, Olaf the Plumber, always fixing the pipes.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
And Nick, this is officially the most creative way I've told you to eat shit.
I win.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
I have risen above my enemies.
I might quit tomorrow, actually.
I'm just gonna take a little breaky now.
A little breaky for me.
And then we're going to come back, and I'm going to start the show over.
But I'm the devil!
I've got to be taken off the air!
unidentified
Fuck you!
alex jones
Fuck you!
I've got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your New World Order, and fuck the horse you rode in on, and all your shit!
Maybe today should be my last broadcast.
Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.
Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow, and you never see me again.
That's really what I want to do.
I never want to come back here again.
I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air.
I'll be better tomorrow.
dan friesen
I doubt it.
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
And it has nothing to do with free speech systems.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
dan friesen
It has nothing to do...
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, I normally don't know this, but I can't not know.
His podcast is already over?
dan friesen
Well, yeah.
So, Alex had a little bit of a bankruptcy hearing, and as it turns out, maybe what he was doing was a very obvious ruse to get around bankruptcy stuff, and so his podcast is defunct for the time being.
Alex Jones Live is dead.
Long live Alex Jones Live.
We're not going to get that painting show.
jordan holmes
That was like a farm-to-table meal, is what that was.
That went straight from creation to death and dismemberment and eventually eating in our plates.
That's what it was.
dan friesen
I don't know how I feel.
I mean, obviously, I always love to see his schemes blow up, but...
At the same time, I wanted that painting show, and I even sort of spiritually called it on the last episode.
I was like, I got burned by Reset Wars.
jordan holmes
I told you.
dan friesen
Now I got burned by this, but maybe it'll come back once they've figured...
jordan holmes
Once the heat dies down, maybe they come back with a slightly better version of the same exact plan to get around bankruptcy.
unidentified
I will say it was a little bit...
dan friesen
Notable that there weren't any terms of service on the page.
Sure.
Maybe it was a little bit obvious in his scheming.
jordan holmes
But he said that it was in no way related to free speech systems.
That is a legally binding contract.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And we take liars at their word.
I mean...
Tip of the cap.
jordan holmes
I mean, they couldn't possibly have thought it would have.
I'm amazed.
I bet they're surprised it lasted as long as it did.
dan friesen
Three episodes?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I bet they were like, hey, nice.
We got three episodes by him.
dan friesen
He did the one that we covered first with Mike Adams and then Pete Santilli.
And he did the one with Joel Skousen that we skipped.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then Matt Baker.
That's it.
jordan holmes
I think as far as a podcast goes, that's what you want.
As your legacy.
dan friesen
All falling action.
No climax.
No rising action.
jordan holmes
Nope.
You know, a lot of people like roller coasters, but some people like to be tossed down a bottomless hole.
dan friesen
I am holding out hope that we will get that painting show.
jordan holmes
That's the only thing I've ever really wanted, honestly.
dan friesen
True.
I didn't know I wanted it, but once the...
jordan holmes
Once I knew.
Yep.
dan friesen
So anyway, I figured that there's a lot of news going on, and there's a lot of...
Maybe news that borders on some weirdness?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And so I thought, we gotta get another perspective on this news.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And thankfully, our old friend Swery Carey has got some insights into things such as balloons.
jordan holmes
Such as Chinese balloons?
dan friesen
UFOs.
jordan holmes
Being shot down all over the place?
dan friesen
Yes.
So I decided that I was gonna check in and see what was going on with her, see if she had some news.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
It turns out.
jordan holmes
Because I've been hearing a lot of confusion from people.
The government hasn't, they haven't said much, you know, they said they shot down a spy balloon, and then they also shot down three other things, but from what I'm hearing, maybe it was just some other shit that people had up there.
I don't know.
dan friesen
Don't expect clarity.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But, Carrie is a regular guest on a show called The Dark Outpost.
Which is a show of nonsense bullshit that is on I think four hours, maybe three or four hours Monday through Friday or maybe Monday through Saturday.
I'm not entirely sure.
Jim Fetzer is a weekly guest on the show, so you know they're doing good.
jordan holmes
Of course.
It's not the light place, it's the dark place.
dan friesen
It's a very, very dark outpost.
Also, one of the things that drew my attention to this was that the second episode that we're going to go over, we're going to talk about two appearances of hers on this episode.
The second one, you know who else was on that episode?
Dr. Marbles.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Dr. Marbles?
dan friesen
Dr. Marbles and Carrie Cassidy were on the same episode of The Dark Outpost.
These things are so much closer than it appears.
jordan holmes
If she suddenly is like, you know, I met this new guy.
His name's Dr. Group.
He's got a lot of, like...
dan friesen
Dr. Group is way closer to that area now with his piss drinking.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm saying!
I feel like we could have a full-on crossover event.
dan friesen
Well, I don't think Dr. Group's coming back on InfoWars.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
I think he might have severed that connection when he started.
jordan holmes
It was a good idea.
It was a good idea.
It was a good idea for both parties.
dan friesen
Alex could tolerate and rationalize a whole lot of stuff, but telling the audience to drink piss, I don't know.
jordan holmes
I'll promote a guy who says get a little Ebola to cure your Ebola before I promote a guy who says drinking piss is even okay.
dan friesen
Well, we pretend that Ebola thing didn't happen.
jordan holmes
We do.
dan friesen
I don't.
So, the dark outpost.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
The hosts don't talk really at all.
jordan holmes
Interesting choice!
That is an interesting choice for hosting a show.
dan friesen
There's a fella and a lady who are the hosts, and they do not make themselves...
jordan holmes
Apparently they earned names.
Nope.
dan friesen
Not to me.
jordan holmes
There's fella and lady.
dan friesen
I mean, if we explore the show more as a Wacky Wednesday option, then maybe I'll learn their names.
But for now, they say so little that it would not even be relevant to know their names.
They have carry on to, as Alex would say, cover the waterfront.
And in this first time that she's on, there's a bit of talk about a war with China.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
That is...
Obviously something that has been planned for a long time.
unidentified
I'm sorry?
dan friesen
And it's really just a ruse.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Right?
And this has to do with the balloon.
jordan holmes
The balloon.
dan friesen
The balloon.
jordan holmes
The balloon is the key to the war with China.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
That has been planned for a while.
dan friesen
I believe that this episode is from February 7th, and then the other one's the 14th.
I believe those are the dates.
unidentified
Gotcha.
dan friesen
So the balloon was a bit hotter at this point, and here's what we know.
unidentified
So you wrote a fabulous expose on this Chinese balloon.
Would you like to tell us about that?
kerry cassidy
Well, okay, yes.
I have to say that in essence, it's very likely not a Chinese balloon.
Okay.
It's a lot of my sources.
I have been telling me that it's American made.
It's a DARPA product.
And strangely, I think that there is some collusion maybe with Xi from China.
jordan holmes
So it is the Chinese.
kerry cassidy
Going along with the sort of pantomime, the facade.
And all of this leads to this idea that we should be, they want us to be at war with China.
dan friesen
Right.
The dark elements of the deep state and what have you, they want to get into this long planned war with China.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And Xi is on board.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
So they could, I mean, based on what you're describing, just say we are fighting a war now.
dan friesen
There is no need for a balloon.
jordan holmes
No need for a balloon whatsoever.
You have the key players to just be like, hey, war began.
War now!
dan friesen
That is one thing.
jordan holmes
That's a thing they can do.
dan friesen
Yeah, or even if she is on board, then you could just have a far more hostile provocation.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally.
dan friesen
Or there's all kinds of options that would be much surer a path to the goal.
jordan holmes
I mean, if the plan is to start a war...
Then you can just start a war if you are the leader of a nation.
You can be like, I fire a war at you, sir.
dan friesen
You need casus belli.
jordan holmes
I understand you may need that, but even then, a little balloon is not going to get the American...
We lived through 9 fucking 11 and you're going to start a war over a balloon?
Fuck that noise.
dan friesen
It was a pretty weird balloon.
jordan holmes
Get the shit out of here.
dan friesen
Pretty weird balloon.
jordan holmes
No, not a chance.
No war over balloons.
dan friesen
So that's one theory, though.
You know, that she is on board with us trying to...
Do this pantomime in order to start a war.
But there's other theories, too.
kerry cassidy
So what's really going on?
I do think it's interesting.
Kim Gogan, and you may know who she is.
jordan holmes
Daughter of Paul Gogan.
kerry cassidy
She is saying that what it really is, is the deep state surveying a certain, going over to Glacier National Park, like they can't go there any other time, but nonetheless, using a balloon that they're going to...
Actually go through a portal, which is, I believe, this is actually the kind of technology and the reality of our world.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm waiting for.
kerry cassidy
That would link up through to the sun.
That would then open a portal over there.
That, I guess, a through line to Earth.
Now, CERN is doing this kind of thing all the time.
All the time!
A lot of people don't know this, but linear accelerators.
Are able to open portals as well.
So anywhere you have on Earth a linear accelerator, Brookhaven, I think it's called Brookhaven Lab, starts with the word Brook, and I think it's over in maybe Massachusetts or somewhere like that, is very well known for opening portals.
dan friesen
Boy, she doesn't sweat the details, huh?
jordan holmes
Yeah, it doesn't seem to be as important as you might imagine for portal opening.
dan friesen
I think if I were convinced that someplace was notorious for opening portals, I'd know what state it was in and maybe know the name of it because it would be a very central part of...
jordan holmes
Here's the thing.
We've all known about this.
We've all known that linear accelerators open portals all the time.
We've known about this since the 80s.
If you get a proton up to 88 miles per hour, all right, Gigawatts?
You will get in a portal!
dan friesen
I think that you should probably distinguish between linear particle accelerators and linear accelerators which are used to treat cancer.
But...
Yeah, so we've got a portal to the sun.
jordan holmes
We've got a portal to the sun.
dan friesen
Unclear what the point of that would be, since you die immediately.
jordan holmes
I mean, because you've got to get the energy from the sun.
dan friesen
Too much energy.
jordan holmes
Listen, okay, so we've got this whole stove thing going on.
Everybody's all mad about that.
What they should be doing is opening portals to the surface of the sun.
That'll heat everything instantly.
No worries.
dan friesen
I imagine what you're picturing is there's a portal, and you take a plug through it, and you plug into the sun.
And then you bring it back through.
jordan holmes
I feel like that works.
dan friesen
You have a generator in the form of the sun.
Maybe it's too...
Yeah, maybe...
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I do feel like that's what she's saying, is that it's an energy...
It's an energy thing, right?
You have to open a portal to the sun to get energy out of it?
dan friesen
Gotta be honest, I don't know.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I think it might be a evil aliens coming through the portal.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Okay.
That could be, but I don't know who's on the sun.
jordan holmes
I want to establish this with all peoples of all conspiracies whatsoever, alien or no.
You just can't step on a star.
You just can't do it.
No stepping on stars anywhere in the universe.
No star can be stepped on.
It just can't be stepped on.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Well, fine.
But I would also like to establish a ground rule where everything has to have a reason.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Very clearly stated.
Why are we opening this portal to the sun?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because it could be energy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it seems intuitive that it would be.
dan friesen
Well, we don't know exactly, but we do know where this intel is coming from.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
And you'll never guess.
kerry cassidy
She's getting all her information, she said repeatedly, from Valiant Thor, who's a Venusian who came to our planet and talked to Eisenhower many, many years ago.
unidentified
Is he still on Earth, Valiant Thor?
kerry cassidy
I don't believe so.
I believe he's back on Venus.
But I think there's a way that higher dimensional entities, if you want to call them that, such as a Thor, Or just, you know, individuals who have, like, a Venusian would probably be a 60 being, can communicate directly with a human being, okay, through telepathy and so on.
So apparently she's got telepathic and she says she goes to Venus and so on and so forth.
That's her deal, okay?
I realize that some people are going to think this is ludicrous, but there is some basis in reality for some of this information.
dan friesen
The base is in reality for some of this information, Jordan.
jordan holmes
I don't know why, but her saying, that is her deal.
dan friesen
That's her deal.
jordan holmes
That got me.
The strength?
Right.
No, listen.
Before we brook any argument, that is her deal.
dan friesen
That's her deal.
jordan holmes
That's her deal.
dan friesen
She telepathically connects with Venusians.
jordan holmes
So let's just get that out of the way.
dan friesen
Right.
So, that question from the host might give you some indication of why I didn't know their names.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Is Valiant Thor still on Earth?
jordan holmes
Hey, Valiant Thor still on Earth?
dan friesen
That's a great follow-up.
jordan holmes
That is essentially me being like, how's Don DeGreffrey doing?
dan friesen
Bad news.
The...
The notion that that would be your question after someone tells you that it's possible that these balloons and stuff are in order to go to Glacier National Park and open a portal to the sun.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And this is information coming from the Venusian who spoke to Eisenhower.
His name was Valiant Thor.
And your question is, is he still on Earth?
It kind of misses a lot of the point.
jordan holmes
This is the good morning America of conspiracy theories.
That's like a Kelly Ripa, like, oh, so the pandemic's bad.
Should we wear yellow?
dan friesen
Should masks be yellow?
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
I think I'm not going to be that benign on it because Jim Fetzer is a regular guest on this fucking show.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
And I think anybody who talks to him a second time that isn't in law enforcement is suspect.
jordan holmes
You're not wrong.
You're not wrong.
dan friesen
So this war with China that's going to come is, of course, Predestined or something.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But there's going to be sides that are taken in this war.
jordan holmes
But not just America versus China.
dan friesen
No, no.
But there's going to be people who side with China, people who side with the U.S. Okay.
kerry cassidy
The thing is, saying that this so-called war with China, and China will be backed by Iran, and Russia will be on the side of the U.S. So let's get our players correct.
Interesting.
Okay.
So Russia under Putin.
jordan holmes
Interesting pivot for them.
kerry cassidy
Is already actually on the side, not of the deep state part of the U.S., but the side that Trump...
And the White Hats are in control of, which includes Space Force, as you can appreciate.
dan friesen
I can appreciate.
Look, so the notion here is that China and Iran will be allied, which is believable enough.
Like, Iran wants to join the BRICS group.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That's the smart move for them.
Yeah, and Russia...
jordan holmes
Trust America, that's for fucking sure.
dan friesen
Russia is going to side with the U.S., which is actually already the case.
jordan holmes
Oh, that makes sense.
dan friesen
Because the Patriots and what have you...
Putin's aligned with them.
And what she's actually really expressing is just that they all love Putin.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it does feel like what they are saying is we would rather Putin run things than our government run things.
dan friesen
Because our real government is aligned with Putin.
And the fake government that is in reality in office is adversarial.
jordan holmes
They are tiresome.
Tiresome.
I am very tired.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, I think it's less tiring when you kind of just see, like, ah, what you're articulating here is that you side with Putin.
You like Putin a lot.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and you're willing to overlook all the murder.
dan friesen
Sure.
And one of the issues, though, is that Biden is a puppet of the CCP, the Chinese Communist Party.
jordan holmes
The alliances here are so confusing.
dan friesen
China and Iran.
jordan holmes
Right.
No, that one I'm fine with.
That one makes sense.
dan friesen
They're over here.
jordan holmes
We're on strong footing.
dan friesen
Biden, the fake U.S. government, is a puppet of the CCP.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
I'm struggling with that one.
dan friesen
Why?
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
Over here is the real U.S. government that is like Trump and Wano7, who is JFK Jr.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And they are involved with Putin.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Okay.
And they're the good guys.
jordan holmes
Right.
Right.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
What don't you understand?
jordan holmes
How you get there.
dan friesen
Now let me throw a wrench in the gears.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Where does she stand?
This is mind-blowing.
jordan holmes
Okay.
kerry cassidy
So there are deals making tons of money from the CCP, from China, such that Biden became their puppet.
Okay.
And he also became the puppet of what we call the New World Order.
So China, the CCP.
And the New World Order are perfectly intertwined.
However, there's a portion of China, at least there appears to be, that may involve some of the Chinese elders.
It involves Xi, and it involves basically what is called the alliance.
Okay, some people call it the alliance.
Which involves, again, the players that want to see peace on Earth, And a much more egalitarian system, let's say, where human freedoms are preserved as opposed to the opposite, which...
The CCP is notorious for.
dan friesen
Yeah, so this is quite a wrench.
unidentified
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
jordan holmes
So Xi is actively against his own party that made him dictator for life.
dan friesen
He's with the elders and the alliance that want human freedoms and what have you.
So there's like this resistance within China.
And it happens to involve the dictator who's been the head of the CCP since like 2012.
See, the thing about...
jordan holmes
The thing about him is that the CCP...
dan friesen
It's him!
jordan holmes
We're like, hey, let's give this man infinite power and extend his power until he dies.
Which, who knows if we're gonna let that happen.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The CCP and she might as well be synonymous.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they might as well be synonymous.
dan friesen
In terms of being a power entity.
jordan holmes
The thing she says is what CCP does.
That's how it works.
That's just how it works.
dan friesen
I don't even understand what the goal is here in terms of...
Like, trying to rehab Xi for the Patriots.
jordan holmes
Even then, it's like, so then Xi is secretly working against his own party?
dan friesen
With the Elders and the Alliance.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
So then Xi is...
Then the CCP is a false flag?
dan friesen
I mean, this is tiring.
jordan holmes
This is tiring, yes.
dan friesen
The other stuff wasn't so tiring.
jordan holmes
I spoke too soon.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we actually only have one more clip from this first appearance because there's not a ton going on.
jordan holmes
Because a fellow and lady didn't have much going?
dan friesen
I got bored.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No, fair.
dan friesen
But this is interesting.
We touch on the issue of the vaccine.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And what it's doing to us.
And this, if true, quite scary.
kerry cassidy
Unfortunately, the article doesn't really go into the deep secret information that I do.
They don't go into that area.
So they don't really understand what they're talking about, like where it all leads.
But the end result is they at least know that it's surveilling you from the inside.
That takes away your personal freedom.
They decide at that point, this deep state, just like with the monetary system, that they want to roll out.
They can tell where you spend your money, where you spend your time, how your body is reacting to their experiment, which was COVID-19, right?
So they needed to track all the bodies.
But luciferase, as it's called, and the smart dust that is involved in the vax was also put there to surveil you in these ways, okay?
And these various companies are simply facilitators in some cases.
Sometimes they're extremely active.
You can imagine Oracle and some of the usual suspects are all involved, you know, getting contracts with the deep state.
So that when we look at the whole COVID debacle...
And take over of our bodies to link us to the Borg, which is also called Homo Borg Genesis, named in the courtroom.
jordan holmes
Good name.
kerry cassidy
On some legal basis.
jordan holmes
Good name.
kerry cassidy
Which is, you know, just like the Star Trek Borg.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
kerry cassidy
This is the AI, okay?
And it is an AI that is off-planet.
dan friesen
Okay.
So, yeah, the vaccine is to track us and control us from within, which is great.
But then we get to the Borg thing.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Which is fun.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is enjoyable.
dan friesen
So the argument is essentially that the vaccine, the mRNA, changes people's DNA to the point where they're no longer humans.
jordan holmes
Sure, naturally.
dan friesen
They're not legally classified as humans.
jordan holmes
Not at all.
They're Borg.
dan friesen
They're Homo Borggenesis.
jordan holmes
Homo Borggenesis.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Again, great name.
dan friesen
Sure, and that means they don't have the same rights as humans and all this.
jordan holmes
But isn't it all of us?
dan friesen
Everyone got vaccinated.
jordan holmes
Sure, fair enough.
dan friesen
But we don't have rights anymore.
jordan holmes
Fair enough, fair enough.
Apologies.
dan friesen
We lose even more rights when we get boosters.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a terrible idea.
dan friesen
I'm just making that part up.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
That is not part of their conspiracy.
unidentified
No, no, no.
dan friesen
Anyway, this comes from a guy named Todd Callender who just made this shit up.
jordan holmes
Todd Callender, alright.
dan friesen
He just made it up.
jordan holmes
I need, from my sci-fi weirdos, I need them to have something more impressive than real life.
You know, like a med bed.
I get that.
It's a space technology that we can't possibly understand.
dan friesen
It regrows limbs.
jordan holmes
Totally the whole thing.
But I know that an mRNA vaccine is made because we have the gene editing tool CRISPR, which allows us to reform certain things at a molecular level.
That's fucking amazing.
We can do that.
And you're going to come at me with, they've got smart dust?
Fuck off!
dan friesen
Fuck off!
No!
jordan holmes
We can adjust the very building blocks of life.
You give us credit for that shit and make up something better.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The Todd calendar claimed that this was based on a published paper from NASA's Langley Research Center.
jordan holmes
Ooh, NASA's Langley Research Center, huh?
dan friesen
Yeah, and USA Today reached out to Langley Research Center and the person said, quote, there is...
Zero truth to these wacky claims.
Yeah, the paper doesn't exist.
They never did research on this stuff, and it's all just, this weirdo made something up, and now it's really popular among space weirdos.
jordan holmes
I'm not saying, but I'm just not going to trust somebody.
Named Calendar first.
dan friesen
What about Marie Calendar?
You gonna trust her for some pies?
jordan holmes
Not yet.
I'm gonna need to confirm it.
I'm gonna need to confirm it with someone else.
I just don't trust Calendars.
dan friesen
I'll vouch for the pies.
jordan holmes
Okay, fair enough.
dan friesen
I feel like my mom got Marie Calendar pies.
jordan holmes
Ooh, now we don't know.
dan friesen
So, yeah, we're Borg.
jordan holmes
Right.
Where's Valiant Thor in all this, though?
dan friesen
Valiant Thor is on Venus.
Sure, but he's not on Earth anymore.
jordan holmes
Is he cool with us being Borg?
dan friesen
Probably not.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
I mean, that's why he's talking to this lady who's talking about the portal to the sun.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
dan friesen
I don't actually know exactly.
That is one of the problems with object permanence.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Is that, like, Valiant Thor and the portal to the sun exist at the same time people are becoming bored.
jordan holmes
Has to also interact with that.
He has an opinion.
I mean, at the very least, Valiant Thor is like, oh, I'm glad Eisenhower didn't live to see this.
dan friesen
Reached for comment.
unidentified
Valiant Thor said, boo to the vaccine.
jordan holmes
I'm against it.
dan friesen
There's Snake Valiant.
Wait a minute.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Too much smart dust.
dan friesen
So the second appearance comes about.
At this point, there's more UFO talk.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
You know, there's been more sightings of things.
Things are shot down out of the sky.
jordan holmes
We've got multiple things.
dan friesen
Right.
And here's the deal.
That's not happening.
kerry cassidy
So, okay.
unidentified
Big swing.
kerry cassidy
So back to the UFOs.
They're not shooting them down.
Okay, this is...
Probably not happening.
What they're really doing is, sure, they're taking shots at them, but they go interdimensional, like in a half second.
And they can see whatever it is coming at them.
You can appreciate.
Their technology is at least as good as ours.
jordan holmes
No, it cannot be at least as good as ours.
It must be better.
kerry cassidy
Where we can actually go mano-mano with the off-planet races is that we made deals.
Back in the time of Eisenhower, with some of the races, with the more negative races, and we allowed them to abduct.
jordan holmes
Wait, what about Valiant Thor?
kerry cassidy
They allowed them to abduct people, okay?
Children, women, even impregnate women, because that's the alien abduction that went on south of the border.
Big time.
Huge.
All of those children are now growing up.
They're alien-human hybrids.
jordan holmes
Chupacabra.
kerry cassidy
They're letting them in at the border.
They're drawn to the border.
We're programmed to go to the border, to cross into the United States.
So what we will have in the future is kind of an X-Men scenario, if you can appreciate that.
dan friesen
So they have powers, apparently, to these alien human babies.
jordan holmes
If I understand correctly, because of deals Eisenhower made with bad aliens, Mexican X-Men are coming for us.
dan friesen
Yes.
They're drawn to the border because of their alien heritage or something.
jordan holmes
Obviously, obviously.
dan friesen
Also, that does...
It does mean that Valiant Thor is bad, right?
jordan holmes
It has to.
dan friesen
Because he's the one who made the deals with Eisenhower.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And she said they made deals with the bad aliens.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Negative aliens.
jordan holmes
I mean, if that's the case, then Valiant Thor is at the very least complicit in Eisenhower's deals with the bad aliens.
dan friesen
Right.
Valiant Thor is involved in brokering a deal with negative aliens.
unidentified
100%.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Also, here's the problem.
Like, Eisenhower left office in 1961.
unidentified
So...
dan friesen
If there was a deal made while he was in office, then the children that were initially part of this would be like 60. Yes, they would be about 60. I don't know if it's 60-year-old superheroes.
jordan holmes
I mean, hold on, hold on.
You don't know how quickly alien-human hybrids age.
That could be their larval stage.
They might still be growing underground somewhere.
unidentified
Could be a Grogu thing.
jordan holmes
It could definitely be a Grogu thing.
We have a Grogu situation.
We got a Grogu situation.
There's a whole swath of Mexican Grogu's heading towards the border.
dan friesen
Well, that would be great.
jordan holmes
That would be great.
dan friesen
You're so cute.
jordan holmes
I am on their team.
Every time Gary's like, oh, he made a deal with the evil ones, it's always a great idea.
Like Mexican X-Men.
dan friesen
I find this difficult.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because I think your theory is fantastic.
But let's throw it to the side and assume aging is...
jordan holmes
Regular.
dan friesen
Yes.
Because here's the deal.
If it weren't, we would notice that there were a bunch of, like, Benjamin Buttons.
jordan holmes
Someone would have to have noticed by now.
dan friesen
And that introduces the second problem, that if people who are half alien have human, if they grow at a normal human rate, then they would, like, someone would have noticed superpowers earlier, right?
I mean, it wouldn't be just now.
jordan holmes
I mean, here's what's the most accurate thing.
dan friesen
It's been, what?
Like, 60, 65 years?
62 years?
jordan holmes
The most accurate thing in all superhero and X-Men movies is whenever the news shows up as a teenager kills hundreds of people.
The news is going to be there, man.
If a teenager suddenly explodes a fucking anything.
dan friesen
But then there's also cover-ups.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
But, I mean, come on.
That's a pretty big cover-up.
There's thousands of them.
dan friesen
Well, they've covered up Valiant Thor making a deal with Eisenhower.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Who would think they could cover up anything?
They covered up the portal to the sun.
jordan holmes
Ah, that is true.
I mean, and frankly, every single linear accelerator creates portals.
So they've been covering up so much information.
dan friesen
They covered up a place that might be in Massachusetts.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
So Trump knows about this X-Men scenario, my man.
jordan holmes
Of course he does!
dan friesen
Yep.
kerry cassidy
So what we will have in the future is kind of an X-Men scenario, if you can appreciate that.
unidentified
Yeah.
kerry cassidy
Trump knows all of this.
jordan holmes
Logan's my favorite X-Files.
kerry cassidy
And I'm going to show you that, actually, the reason Trump knows all of this, and you have to go back to Nixon, and go back to, there's a couple videos out there where 107...
I won't say his real name, you know, this time, but, you know, who he is.
If you know, you know.
jordan holmes
Why?
Why?
What are we talking about?
kerry cassidy
And he says that Trump became very good friends.
Nixon was kind of a mentor to Trump when he was young.
So he was, and Nixon was fully read in on the alien situation.
Not only did Nixon, Nixon was like Eisenhower's right hand.
So when Eisenhower was meeting with those alien races, guess who was there?
Nixon.
unidentified
Okay?
kerry cassidy
So when you see that, you cannot ignore the fact that Trump knows it all.
Okay?
So don't go around thinking that he's dumb or he doesn't know what's going on.
Bullshit.
He knows the whole thing.
So on top of it, that means 107 knows the whole thing.
Okay?
And they are the two, in essence, leaders of what we call the White Hats, the resistance.
dan friesen
So yeah, 107 is JFK Jr.
That's what she's teasing at.
jordan holmes
Man, every time she describes something that is bad, she's like, And that's why Trump and the good guys are doing it.
And then it's like, oh, God.
That's why we love Nixon.
I don't understand how you don't get that all the things that you describe as bad are ascribed correctly to the people you like.
I don't understand.
dan friesen
And even, like, I want to just throw this out there, too.
Assuming that...
You know, JFK Jr. is 107.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
Big assumption, but assuming.
dan friesen
Let's play that game.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Eisenhower, again, was out of office in 1961.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Nixon was his vice president.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And JFK Jr. was born in November 1960.
I don't know if he would have been around for that period of time.
So he wouldn't know.
He wouldn't have been around for Valiant Thor.
jordan holmes
Bringing up dates is a bad idea.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
Okay, that's where we all get into trouble.
Then they're unhappy, we're unhappy.
Because then things aren't possible in an unfun way.
That's just a regular not possible thing.
dan friesen
I would also like to call into question the extent to which Nixon was Trump's mentor.
jordan holmes
I would say strongly against.
dan friesen
I know there's that picture of him shaking hands with Reagan.
Everyone is turned into a giant thing.
I didn't know that every Republican president...
Except for Ford, who has apparently been ushering Trump into office since the 60s.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, personal experience, maybe prophecy's not as good as...
Constant, hard work by every president for the past 60-some-odd years.
dan friesen
Yeah, they've been really working towards this goal, and damn it, they've pulled it off.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think that's cutting them a lot short.
If you say, oh, he was prophesied, or he was the golden child, or he's God's chosen one, that's discounting the effort of a lot of awful men.
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's true.
It's also, I just want to...
What is an X-Men scenario?
jordan holmes
It's an X-Men scenario.
There's just so many goddamn X-Men.
That's the scenario.
Too many X-Men!
dan friesen
Alright.
jordan holmes
Frankly, I am disappointed in her.
If they are X-Men coming from south of the border, X-Men is right there.
It's right there.
unidentified
True.
jordan holmes
It is right there.
dan friesen
Yep.
Yep.
jordan holmes
That's brutal.
dan friesen
So Carrie had a dream.
jordan holmes
Sure.
kerry cassidy
I actually had a dream last night, which is very concerning because in the dream, I was trying to convince my sister not to take the vax, but it's probably not this version of the vax.
When I dream, I dream a lot by the future.
So now I'm very concerned that they are going to release something else.
There's going to be a so-called need, problem, reaction, solution.
They're creating another problem.
They're doing it right now.
Even Tedros, who's head of the WHO, right?
He has actually announced that he thinks he's got a new concoction out there.
That's not what he calls it.
It's what I call it.
A bioweapon that is going to be related to the bird flu.
dan friesen
Jordan, when you heard her say Tedros is the leader of the WHO, you rushed your mic to- I wasn't going to say anything.
Are you sure?
jordan holmes
Sure?
dan friesen
You weren't going to make a joke about the who?
jordan holmes
No.
No jokes about the who for me.
dan friesen
Maybe the guess who?
unidentified
No jokes.
dan friesen
Okay.
I'm sure.
So yeah, she got a prophetic dream that she was going to tell her sister not to get to the next vax to something.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's...
That's a really...
Riveting dream.
dan friesen
And it's a dream I'm sure will come true.
She will advise her sister not to get a vaccine at some point in the future.
jordan holmes
Eventually there will be a new vaccine for a disease we have had for a long time, and she'll be like, no, don't get it.
dan friesen
Yeah, sure.
I mean, maybe it'll be a breakthrough of some previously existing condition, or there could be another novel strain of something.
jordan holmes
I mean, they're working on vaccines for HIV as we speak.
It's entirely possible that one will be mass-produced.
dan friesen
Yeah, there is a lot of vaccines to tell people not to get.
jordan holmes
So many.
Smallpox.
There's a lot of diseases you don't want to get that we would like to give you a free pass on.
dan friesen
So Carrie has some thoughts about the idea of the social distancing, self-quarantining, self-isolating that went on during COVID.
And this was really bewildering.
kerry cassidy
What people don't realize is with these bioweapons, in some cases because of the way the human body is, we have a built-in immune system that requires there be an incubation time for the so-called virus, all right?
jordan holmes
So-called.
kerry cassidy
So they can release it now with a balloon in a specific area, and then it won't show up in the population for whatever the incubation time is, three months maybe, okay, two months.
Maybe one month.
Maybe one week.
Who knows?
All I'm saying is that, according to one of my whistleblowers, there's an incubation time.
By the way, that's part of the reason why they had to do the lockdowns.
The lockdown was to allow for the incubation period so the humans would be kept in space.
Because when, okay, when you're out and you're moving around and all the humans are out moving around.
jordan holmes
Don't explain it.
kerry cassidy
Everything gets released through the field of resonance.
It dissipates.
They didn't want it to dissipate.
They wanted it to incubate.
So they had to have this so-called lockdown.
It was full of nonsense.
And the masks.
What a programming device that is.
Shut the fuck up and so on.
That would be nice.
So just be warned.
dan friesen
Be warned!
jordan holmes
Be warned.
dan friesen
I don't think she knows what an incubation period is.
jordan holmes
If you go outside, you will not be sick.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
It dissipates.
dan friesen
And whatever you've been exposed to and is within your body will go away.
As humans all walk around and around other humans.
jordan holmes
Right.
The field of resonance draws the black bile from your liver.
Naturally.
dan friesen
See, the problem is you're caught up in this germ theory.
Like, I don't know, cause and effect stuff.
Sure, sure.
jordan holmes
I mean, I think it is a so-called virus because it is, I think it's so-called because, yeah.
dan friesen
So, look, the deal here.
kerry cassidy
Sure.
dan friesen
The incubation period.
jordan holmes
What is the deal?
dan friesen
The incubation period is just like you're exposed to something and then the time that it takes for symptoms to show up.
So early on in the pandemic, as you might recall, before we had really decent and available tests, one of the things that was noted in people who were sick was that often it took up to two weeks.
for symptoms to emerge in people who had been exposed to somebody who had tested positive.
jordan holmes
Which is why it was so transmissible, is because you would be outside without symptoms around other people and infectious.
dan friesen
And so the guidance that was largely given was you should quarantine or self-isolate for two weeks if you had exposure to someone who you knew was positive or tested positive, because you would know by the end of that She seems to think that it's like they needed you to stay sitting
in your house so the eggs could hatch.
jordan holmes
Yes, yes.
You needed to have a certain type of light on you at all times in order for the disease to grow.
I mean, in a sense, she's right.
When you do get into a field of resonance...
The so-called virus dissipates.
Now, if we use different words, then we could say that when you go out in a large group of people, the virus infects a lot of other people also.
dan friesen
But that doesn't diminish your infection.
jordan holmes
No, it does not.
dan friesen
It's not like, aha, I have a total of, let's say the virus is one.
One whole virus.
And I have given eight...
Eighths of it to eight different people.
One-eighth to each different person.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Therefore, I have none left.
jordan holmes
We're all less infected.
We have one-eighth of the disease now.
Exactly.
dan friesen
Yes, this is how it works.
jordan holmes
It makes perfect sense for diseases to work like this.
dan friesen
It's math.
jordan holmes
And that is why we didn't develop medicine for a long time.
dan friesen
Also, I'm really disappointed that she seems to have dropped the COVID gives people vampirism subplot.
jordan holmes
Yeah, she needs...
unidentified
It was fun.
jordan holmes
She needs to bring that one back.
dan friesen
Where are the vampires?
jordan holmes
Or at least acknowledge that at one point you said there.
I think with COVID, you should have to have a disclaimer.
Like those things that run at the end of credits or crimes.
You know, those things of all the things you've committed.
It should be like...
February 14th, 2021.
dan friesen
These are the things I've been flagrantly wrong about.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Vampires.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think that this is also the cop-out that you get when you're like, these are what my whistleblowers are telling me.
So then when something is completely wrong, you'd be like, well, you know, it wasn't me.
It was my whistleblower.
jordan holmes
I'm conveying information.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I don't have to be held accountable for it.
dan friesen
Well, now let's turn that around.
You do need to be held responsible for the information you deem worth conveying.
jordan holmes
And?
They probably, definitely, the information you convey because you dreamed it.
That's on you.
dan friesen
Right.
A lot of people like to talk about their dreams, apparently, like they mean something.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Anyway, the deep staters, they're going to be going down for the vaccine because obviously it's killing everybody and turning us into a Borg.
And that's why you see the UFOs and stuff now.
kerry cassidy
We have the deep state being rolled out and very possibly beginning to have prosecutions for their role.
And this is for individual players at the very time.
Oh, of course.
is able to survive.
That's always the case.
So people like If they want to throw Bill Gates under the bus, they want to throw Fauci under the bus, whoever they decide to sacrifice.
Usually it'll only be a couple sacrifices and then the humans will just calm down and go about their business thinking they got what they wanted.
jordan holmes
Return to your business, humans!
kerry cassidy
Of course, there are tons of other perpetrators out there on a daily basis in every walk of life.
So that's one thing that's happening and about to happen.
What I'm trying to explain is why the deep state, why now?
Why suddenly pull the alien card, do another disease thing?
dan friesen
Yeah, you've got to do all these things because the people are going down for the vaccine.
You gotta distract from that while you throw somebody onto the bus.
Also, I noticed a trend that maybe I hadn't noticed in a lot of other times we've covered her episodes, but there is like a, almost a derision she has for the humans.
Yep.
It's weird.
jordan holmes
Yep.
No, I mean, I do think there's very much...
She has claimed alien heritage in the past.
Well, she's been told that she's had...
dan friesen
Yeah.
Eddie Page, the racist Pleiadian, said that she was also Pleiadian.
She has been abducted a number of times.
jordan holmes
That's what it was.
dan friesen
And they have, like, secret special abilities and stuff.
But I don't think that she is committed to, like, being part alien.
jordan holmes
I mean, I think...
I think it's hard not to kind of, if you live in a world of majestic aliens instantly appearing and disappearing, how could you then return to the mundanity of like, look at everybody wiping their ass twice a day?
You know, like, that sucks.
So why would you be on Team Human?
You'd be like, take me to space!
dan friesen
No, I hear you.
I just think it sucks.
jordan holmes
It does suck.
She abandoned us pretty quick.
For bullshit.
We're fairly okay.
dan friesen
For weirdos who are lying.
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
That's all it took for you to abandon the human race?
dan friesen
I mean, I get it.
Humans aren't, you know, as a whole, maybe.
What was it?
That's unfortunate.
I realize that it's a Ben Stein quote, who also sucks, but he's like, the average human is not such a hot item.
And I think that there is a sense that people have of that.
It's like, eh, a lot of people are pretty disappointing.
But then I realize that's a Ben Stein quote, and I'm disappointed in him, so maybe that quote sucks.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think what a lot of people think is that a lot of people are different from them.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
And I think a lot of people find themselves a lot more interesting than a lot of other people.
And that's why we get into the situation where it's like, most of these people suck!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because I'm great.
dan friesen
And you know what?
I find that most of the time, people are pretty great.
jordan holmes
People are pretty fucking great!
dan friesen
I think we get a skewed perception these days, especially because of the internet.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because a lot of people act like assholes online.
And that can really shade your perception of how people are.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah, no.
Once I, when I left Twitter...
I thought people were better.
Immediately.
I was like, oh, everybody's a lot nicer.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Trump and 107, a.k.a.
JFK Jr.
jordan holmes
JFK Jr., but we're not going to say it here.
dan friesen
Nope.
They are in charge of the good guys.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
They're in charge of the patriots.
jordan holmes
Right.
But they're allied with Putin, who I think they...
Here's what I would like to know.
Here's what Carrie needs to give me.
unidentified
She and the Elders and the Alliance.
dan friesen
And a bunch of aliens.
jordan holmes
What I would like, pecking order.
We've got all these...
dan friesen
Never.
jordan holmes
We've got she, we've got Putin, we've got Trump.
Three men with astronomical egos beyond what mortals could ever imagine.
Who's taking lead?
dan friesen
Probably Valiant Thor.
So anyway, they're in charge of the Patriots, and they're in negotiations currently with the bad guys about who gets thrown under the bus.
jordan holmes
Okay.
kerry cassidy
The deal going on right now, this is my view, is that the White Hats...
Trump and the White Hats and Juan are negotiating with the dark side as to who's going to be thrown under the bus, what the dark side can give up.
And they've decided to give up Biden, for example.
Now, you have to think of why would they give up Biden at this time?
Because Biden is like an opening.
He and his son and the laptop.
To all of the crimes that happened in Ukraine, because they're fully involved in all of them.
They're involved with the human trafficking.
They're involved with the pedophilia.
They're involved with the child sacrifice, which are all part of the same picture.
And they're involved with the financial scams, okay, and the money laundering, and making huge amounts of money from there.
They're not the only ones in that administration, okay?
Pelosi, her husband, and, you know, the list goes on.
dan friesen
Wait, is Paul Pelosi in the Biden administration?
jordan holmes
I don't know, they're hammer-fucking.
dan friesen
I don't even think, like, the Speaker of the House, or former Speaker of the House, she's not in the administration.
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
That's not how that works.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
That's not even allowed to be how that works.
You can't both be in Congress and in the administration at the same time.
dan friesen
Well, unless you're the president of the Senate, baby.
jordan holmes
Sure, that's fair.
dan friesen
Fine.
Yeah, I don't know.
jordan holmes
You know, I...
unidentified
It's nuts that Trump and 107 are negotiating with the deep state for who gets thrown under the bus, and the de facto answer is just the problem.
dan friesen
Yep.
unidentified
Yep.
It's just like, oh yeah, we can go ahead and give up the leader of the free world.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Small sacrifice.
jordan holmes
He's just a figurehead, really, honestly.
And for the humans, they would see him get killed by whomever, and they'd be like, ah, we'll go back to our business.
dan friesen
Go back to our business.
Kamala Harris is president now.
jordan holmes
She's doing the sci-fi trope that I find enjoyable, but at the same time...
dan friesen
Wait, and then Kevin McCarthy is vice president?
Is that right?
jordan holmes
No!
That's not how that works.
dan friesen
No, doesn't he ascend?
He's the Speaker of the House.
jordan holmes
No, you don't go from Speaker of the House to Vice President.
The Vice President is chosen by the President.
dan friesen
Nah.
jordan holmes
If both of them die, then the Speaker of the House goes directly to President.
dan friesen
Disagree.
Then, how it works.
jordan holmes
This is not the line of succession.
dan friesen
Shut up.
C-O-G.
This is how it works.
unidentified
Okay, all right.
dan friesen
Kevin McCarthy is vice president.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Kamala Harris is president.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And then the Department of Transportation, Buttigieg, becomes Secretary of Agriculture.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a good idea.
They all have to shift up one.
That's, I think, an inefficient system, but a more fun one.
dan friesen
We are constrained by what the Founding Fathers came up with.
This is just how it works.
Yeah.
So yeah, this is dumb.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, it reminds me of Anne Leckie's trilogy that starts with Ancillary Justice.
Fantastic novel.
Really good, like, buildings roaming about a character that's also just learning to be human, you know?
Very good.
And then at the end of it, it winds up being like 50 different...
The third book winds up being 50 different scenes of like...
Here's three people in a room deciding the fate of humanity.
How dramatic and how cool is it?
And it's like, that's never how it works.
It doesn't work like that.
dan friesen
Disagree.
It is 107.
Trump and Bill Gates, maybe, and the Rothschilds.
All of them.
jordan holmes
Even if that is how it works.
dan friesen
Sitting in a dark room around the table, one light overhead, all of them smoking cigars, playing poker while they negotiate who gets thrown under the bus.
jordan holmes
Right.
Now, I understand that, but let's go back to a little treaty of Versailles.
Alright, when you get a small group of people in the room together making up rules for the world, it doesn't always go well.
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
It just doesn't.
dan friesen
Yep, that's why you need aliens.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're smarter.
dan friesen
So, the White Hats, sometimes you see them doing things that aren't good.
Maybe that's because you're making up stories about these people and they are bad people.
jordan holmes
In order to justify thinking that they are good people.
dan friesen
Right, but in order to justify that, you have to think like, well, of course, they are going undercover and sometimes they have to do bad things.
jordan holmes
You gotta snort coke if you're the cop and you're trying to go undercover.
You gotta snort the coke to go.
dan friesen
Exactly.
kerry cassidy
One thing that drives me crazy is people who think they find something that the White Hats are doing wrong.
It's kind of like finding the DIA at fault for sending in an agent who pretends to be a drug lord.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit!
That was the literal job.
kerry cassidy
The way to take down your enemy is from within.
You understand?
You can't just go right up to them and shoot them in the head, okay?
All that does is...
Create a huge war with lots of chaos.
That doesn't serve either side.
Both sides want to survive, okay?
jordan holmes
You just said they were starting a war.
kerry cassidy
With as many members intact as possible.
So that means there has to be subterfuge on both sides.
And it means that the White Hats may appear to be working with some dark characters befriending them, you know.
Getting money from them.
You know, and the players are all known to a lot of us, right?
But the fact of the matter is, it's only by playing that game that they get close enough and inside enough to then expose.
And they haven't come to the expose phase yet.
And in some cases, what they'll do is they'll shuttle off the exposure onto someone else or some other organization, like Twitter.
So they bought Twitter.
They made a deal with, sorry, my mind's just racing, with Musk, right?
And he is basically come over from the dark side.
So they have something on him.
Understand how this works?
He doesn't just come over because he suddenly turned over one day into a good guy.
He's been taking and taking and taking.
His whole career is dependent on the dark side.
He's beholden to them.
Do you understand how that works?
It's the same with the guy who runs Facebook, you know, Zuckerberg or Meta.
And I did a whole download over Meta, the name Meta, because you're talking about...
Meta is part of the word metal, and metal is meta-el, and el is the dark god that a lot of the Israelis believe in.
jordan holmes
Take that back.
kerry cassidy
Vindictive, you know, one who wants to take...
If you have a vindictive god who is jealous and all these things, what you have is an Anunnaki.
I'm sorry, it's not god.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
Okay.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
That's something.
jordan holmes
Okay.
I'm going to throw this out at you.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Maybe.
Maybe giving rich and famous people your unquestioned belief that they are always doing good might be why they are so often found to be abusing people for decades with no repercussions.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Could be.
dan friesen
But it's kind of fun to imagine all this, like, espionage and blackmail and Elon Musk.
It's kind of like a fucking spy novel.
jordan holmes
They're just so fucking busy, though.
unidentified
What are they doing?
jordan holmes
What do they do in their off time?
Do they even have off time?
They're so busy subterfuging.
dan friesen
So much subterfuge.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
So much subterfuge.
dan friesen
You have to farm this out to so many underlings.
jordan holmes
Subcontractors.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I don't care about any of that stuff, though.
But I do want to point out that although they share letters, meta and metal don't come from the same roots at all.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Metal comes from the Greek word metalon, which is a word that has connotations with things that are mined.
Conversely, meta is a prefix and preposition.
It comes from the Greek preposition word meta, which had a number of different contexts depending Mm-hmm.
For instance, metamorphosis is the combination of the noun morph, which means shape, and meta meaning change, unless you have a change in shape or form that is metamorphosis.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
There are a ton of meanings for meta in the depths of Greek grammar, but this is not the time to get into it.
But suffice it to say, meta and metal are not related.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Also, in the Hebrew, L doesn't refer to a specific god.
It's the generic phrasing.
Also, it's not the letter L. It's E-L.
jordan holmes
Oh, see, because I was thinking, all right, I was thinking meta.
It's part of the word metal, and it's meta L. So maybe it's something that's changing in the train situation.
And I was like, ooh, the Lawrence stop has been down for so long.
So maybe what she's describing is that they're going to finish the Lawrence stop.
dan friesen
Could be.
unidentified
Message.
dan friesen
The word message?
It's just a combination of mess, which means dirty.
It means everything is disorganized and chaotic.
It's such a mess.
And age.
unidentified
Old.
dan friesen
People who are old and disorganized.
That's what messages are.
jordan holmes
The elders!
dan friesen
We got there.
jordan holmes
I do love a good...
Oh, see, the root word.
dan friesen
Word association is fun.
jordan holmes
It is fun.
dan friesen
It doesn't mean anything.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
And you're often wrong in making things up like this.
jordan holmes
Metal.
Metal is real, real sad.
You should probably be ashamed of that one.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, we do it again here.
kerry cassidy
Think about the word.
I just did this recently, and I put it on my telegram.
jordan holmes
Well, then we should.
kerry cassidy
I thought it was kind of playful, but it's a little serious as well.
So what does blue tooth bring to mind?
Whenever you hear the word blue in the military, they consider that to be the alien sector.
So when they say something's blue, that too, it's depicting that in their minds.
This is how they use the language.
So blue tooth is an alien tooth equals fang equals vampire.
jordan holmes
Whoa!
Quick jump!
kerry cassidy
That Bluetooth technology is a vampiric technology.
And indeed, what does it do?
It attaches itself to all the different devices, right?
And allows them to communicate on the good side, on the bad side.
You know, being all connected is sometimes not a good thing.
That is a bad sign.
This is just a game that you can play with yourself or other people.
And, you know, a lot of people do this.
They use gematria and they decipher the numbers and what the numbers mean.
But you can also do it with words and why companies name themselves certain things.
And, of course, everyone has been doing that for a long time.
But I'd never heard anyone talking about the Bluetooth.
dan friesen
These kinds of word association games may seem fun, but they're actually really destructive when used the way the Carrie and her ilk do.
The conclusion you come to is meaningless, but because these are connections that you've made yourself, they're given some kind of a larger meaning than them just being words you think about.
are connected.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's like a dream that you're having in my face.
dan friesen
Uh, Carrie has broken down Bluetooth and associated it to indicating that this technology is alien-based vampirism, which means literally nothing and has no connection to reality.
Yeah.
unidentified
If she wanted to, she could find the founders of Bluetooth who have spoken publicly many times about the naming of the company.
dan friesen
In 1996, they were exploring ways to standardize short-range radio tech so they could be used by different products, made by different companies.
It would all be uniform.
Right.
jordan holmes
It was a really good idea.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It was a mission of connectivity.
One of them suggested the temporary name for the project to be Bluetooth, named after King Harold Gormason, who was famous for uniting Denmark and Norway in 958, and who had the nickname Bluetooth because he had a prominent dead tooth.
This person felt that there was a connection between this king who united Scandinavia and their mission to connect technology with short-range wireless functionality.
They were supposed to come up with another name later, but they decided to stick with that after the names that they came up with were like two...
Sure.
jordan holmes
Hey, I mean, it's a great name.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It really is.
dan friesen
The Bluetooth logo is even a combination of the runes that make up King Harold's initials.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's why it doesn't quite look like anything.
That's what it is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, I've seen those.
dan friesen
This is an interesting and completely logical story for how a company got its name, but instead of seeking that information out and understanding reality, Carrie decides to free associate words, so they match up with...
conspiracy ass worldview yeah and when you consider this process of finding information and deducing things this is so consistent throughout even Alex's world there is like this association of things whether it's words or ideas or events yeah
You just take things that you could learn about and understand, but instead what you do is you associate and assume in order to make things fit the predetermined conclusions that fit your worldview that you need everything to conform to.
jordan holmes
Right.
And I get creating your own reality because the reality that you exist in you either reject for whatever number of reasons or even just like...
It's more fun to word associate than all that stuff.
But if that's your argument, then I think you should also be curious enough to find out when the story is better than yours.
Like, the Bluetooth story, she could have learned about the actual fucking Viking king, man!
This dude was Bluetooth!
He was doing the shit!
dan friesen
But how do you make that work for her?
unidentified
You can't.
jordan holmes
You know, you'd be like, oh, see?
What it is, it's a reference to a king, not a king who brought people together, but a king who forcibly united two nations against their will through murder and death.
dan friesen
And I have a whistleblower that told me that he's an alien vampire.
jordan holmes
See?
Boom, we're there.
This is all there.
It's all there.
Be interested in the more interesting story, if that's what you're interested in.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Ugh, that's annoying.
dan friesen
So there is, of course, cases that are going through the courts about the 2020 election.
Still trying to stop that steal.
jordan holmes
Any moment now.
They're going to get them.
dan friesen
And it's maybe going to get to the Supreme Court.
But there's a problem.
kerry cassidy
Clarence Thomas is, by some people, said to be the only remaining Supreme Court justice.
All the rest of them went to Guantanamo.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, what?
kerry cassidy
That's one version of reality.
You can either believe it or not.
If you don't want to believe it, then you have to believe that some of these people are definitely compromised.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I do.
kerry cassidy
And they are part of the steal.
dan friesen
I mean, compromised is a broad term.
jordan holmes
Sure, but yes, I do.
They are plenty of them compromised.
dan friesen
They maybe have competing interests in some ways, but I would not say that that is...
Around them supporting the steal.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no, no.
That's more around them being part of the Federalist Society.
dan friesen
So we have eight Supreme Court justices that are in Gitmo.
jordan holmes
In Gitmo.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Why?
Why all eight?
dan friesen
Well, because they were in on the steal.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Except for Clarence Thomas.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is kind of an admission that people in these communities actively think that Clarence Thomas and his wife were trying to overthrow the election.
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes
Totally.
Because they were.
That's what they were.
dan friesen
It's funny that they get it.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And the rest of the media refuses to.
dan friesen
But they still get it, but they also think it's a good thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, man.
That's the thing.
If the rest of them were in Gitmo, you guys wouldn't have to worry about this Stop the Steal shit.
Trump would already be in president and, you know, we'd have a great fascist dictatorship.
dan friesen
If only.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But Trump...
He is president in absentia or whatever.
And because he's in charge of the real United States, which is aligned with Putin and will soon be fighting China and Iran.
jordan holmes
The real United States, which puts its Supreme Court justices in Gitmo.
The good United States that puts Supreme Court justices in a prison in a completely different country.
dan friesen
And then replaces them with clones.
jordan holmes
Yes.
The good guys.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
And are aligned with Xi and the elders.
And the alliance against the CCP that she is the head of.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Yes.
Trump.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
unidentified
The good guys.
Yes.
dan friesen
He is usually at NORAD.
Because they got to keep him safe.
Right?
Because Trump is in charge of NORAD.
I don't know if you know that.
jordan holmes
I didn't.
dan friesen
There are factions within the military.
jordan holmes
So they still let him hang out at NORAD and run NORAD.
dan friesen
Well, because that's held by the part of the military that is cool with Trump.
They love him.
They're connected.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And so he's there.
But there's also a bunch of doubles.
kerry cassidy
So there is a theory, and I happen to agree with it, that Donald Trump is mainly Captain NORAD.
I don't know if all the time he is.
You know, we have maglev trains and you can go somewhere in 20 minutes and all this kind of things.
So he could make some appearances in the flesh.
And I think possibly his family members as well.
I mean, this is important, okay?
Because it also has to do with blackmail.
Remember when there was a whole lot of talk about, ooh, Trump's going to be arrested, right?
Well, of course, if that was a threat, you're never going to have the real guy, you know, basically at the beck and call of the cabal.
You'd never get the real guy back.
You know, they'd make a double that, you know, is a double of the double.
And maybe they've already done that.
You have to understand, making doubles and clones...
It goes way back.
And doing facial reconstruction surgery on somebody who looks very similar, all this kind of thing.
You can't tell if you watch the videos where Trump is speaking.
I think you can tell that from time to time it's not him.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, this is a good way to rationalize when he says completely idiotic things.
Instead of just accepting, like many people who are fans of Joe Biden must, that you're a person who's in public and looked at all the time.
You're going to make some slip-ups.
You're going to make some gaffes here and there.
jordan holmes
Especially if you're an old asshole.
dan friesen
Guess what?
jordan holmes
These two old assholes are going to sound like two old assholes.
That's what they are!
dan friesen
But you can get away with this and get around it if you just have doubles and doubles on doubles.
jordan holmes
That's just bad storytelling.
It is.
That's just bad storytelling.
dan friesen
Well, it's lazy.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah.
Travel is number one in all storytelling of this bullshit nature.
dan friesen
Maglev trains.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
So you got maglev trains.
What the fuck are you talking about?
What?
How do the trains get wherever they want in 20 minutes?
Whatever.
dan friesen
They blackmailed Elon Musk to buy Twitter and to use his boring company to make these holes.
And now they have maglev trains that they can take Trump from NORAD to his rally or whatever.
But it's probably a double of a double.
And it's a double of the maglev train.
They've cloned the maglev train.
jordan holmes
Well, cloning goes way back.
So much so that you can clone trains now.
dan friesen
It goes way back.
jordan holmes
See, again, this is the problem with the story.
Aliens build your tunnels.
Because if Musk builds your tunnel, I know it doesn't work.
dan friesen
Plot twist.
Musk is an alien.
And he's a double.
jordan holmes
Well, that would make sense.
Jesus.
Yeah, doubles and maglev trains, that doesn't count.
You lose.
dan friesen
Earlier, we heard that Trump and 107 are negotiating about who's going to be thrown under the bus.
And we learned that it was Biden.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
You know, they're going to throw Biden under the bus.
But it doesn't make sense because...
kerry cassidy
Biden?
Biden is dead.
The Biden we're seeing is...
jordan holmes
When did he die?
kerry cassidy
Either, at the very least, an actor double.
He was a clone for a while, I believe.
And I think the clone, a lot of clones, by the way, are, according to Mark Richards, are not as dependable.
They don't last very long.
So even when you make a clone, they have a shelf life.
jordan holmes
What are they, melt?
kerry cassidy
That's what I heard.
Okay, whether it's absolutely true, I don't know, but that's what I heard.
So with those things in mind, if you don't want to believe that there's a whole clone-making base, I will go ahead and stick with that reality.
jordan holmes
There has never been a reality I will stick with more in the face of underground clone-making operation in Gitmo.
dan friesen
It's interesting to see that level of brazen defense of this alternate reality.
jordan holmes
Believe whatever you want.
Dumb-dumb.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Your reality reality is so fake.
jordan holmes
So fucking.
Look at how stupid you are.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
Come on.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
jordan holmes
Why would they have Gitmo if they weren't building a clone-making operation directly underneath it?
Clones which clearly only last less than two years if they've already replaced a Biden clone.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
All right.
So now we're talking about the extreme economic disadvantages of clones.
dan friesen
Wow.
Yeah, in theory.
But then also, it throws into question, like, what does it even mean to throw Biden under the bus for all this stuff?
You're just gonna be punishing a clone.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's not even Biden.
Biden's not doing anything.
jordan holmes
No, he's dead.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's dead.
jordan holmes
Why are people so angry at Biden if he's dead?
dan friesen
Well, because they're mad at the clone.
jordan holmes
Sure.
But the clone can't do anything.
The clone's a clone.
dan friesen
Right, but the clone's still making decisions.
jordan holmes
Does the clone know it's a clone?
That's the bigger question.
If the clone knows it's a clone.
Does the clone think of itself as human, or does it think of itself as a completely different species?
dan friesen
I feel like we have heard a discussion of clones in the past on Project Camelot, where some of them go rogue.
jordan holmes
Yes, some of them have gone rogue.
dan friesen
So that leads me to suspect that they are capable of knowing that they're clones.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Because that would lead one to go rogue.
jordan holmes
Now, if there are multiple clones that have known they were clones...
Also in high positions of power, one must assume.
They're not just cloning assholes, right?
It's not like somebody working at a goddamn Applebee's going like, holy shit, did they clone me?
dan friesen
Also, clones would have rights.
jordan holmes
They would have to.
dan friesen
Yeah, so it seems silly to force them to live the exact life of the person you cloned.
You know, like, that seems to be...
Not just silly, but enslavement.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
A complete removal of their identity to be replaced with that of a person they've never met before.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Fucked up, man.
dan friesen
Totally.
jordan holmes
I don't think these are the good guys.
dan friesen
These people are severely fucked up.
jordan holmes
This is unethical.
dan friesen
Now, I don't know if I dreamed it or not, but I swear at some point in this episode, they talked about how the Bluetooth technology will be able to take the stuff that's in the vaccines and raise people from the dentist.
jordan holmes
Oh, now we're talking.
dan friesen
But I don't know if I made that up because I don't have a clip of it.
I feel like I might have dreamt it last night.
jordan holmes
That's what's unfair about this.
You'll never know.
I mean, you just...
No, it's not...
You can obviously go back and look.
dan friesen
It would be easy to find out.
jordan holmes
But in your mind, it's like, yeah, that's 100% possible.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
There's zero possibility.
dan friesen
The fact that I'm having difficulty telling right now tells you that it is in the realm of conversation.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If it wasn't said, perhaps it was unsaid.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
You know?
You didn't need to say it because it was so true.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we have one last clip here, and it has to do with the train derailment in Ohio.
kerry cassidy
I bet they'll treat it well.
Another thing to touch on maybe is the sudden epidemic of train derailments with poison gases.
jordan holmes
No way to predict.
kerry cassidy
So my last count is there's three.
I mean, again, these things don't, you know, the statistics for something like this are just astronomical, okay?
The odds against them happening simultaneously.
You have to look at that, and you have to realize that they're not just poisoning our food supply, but they're also trying now to poison the ground on which it's grown.
dan friesen
So it's not astronomical, the odds of it, because our infrastructure is poorly maintained.
The train derailments happen a lot.
I'm not minimizing at all the one that happened in Ohio.
I'm not at all because it's very, very traumatic and perhaps not being dealt with necessarily in the best way.
But there are fairly regular train derailments.
You don't hear about it all the time because a lot of the time they're not nearly as consequential or severe as this and obviously going to lead to a lot of injuries and probably deaths down the line.
So, here's the thing that I want to bring up about this, without diving too far into the derailment itself.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
The way that information is being used here is flawed on two levels.
The first is...
She's being smug about the statistics of this rash of train derailments.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And not knowing the reality behind it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Then using that, the astronomical odds that this would happen in order to inform a conspiracy theory.
And that is that the globalists or the aliens or the bad, bad people.
jordan holmes
Well, just like when there were fires at plants all over the place.
There's a rash of fires coming out of nowhere.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And that is used to build intentionality into these events.
This train derailment is being done by somebody as an attempt to poison the land where things are grown and what have you.
And that's stupid, but the stupidity of it actually works in service of not solving the actual problem.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
The actual problem is...
The lack of investment in infrastructure, the capriciousness and negligence of these companies, these are the actual things that need to be addressed.
These are the things that need to be dealt with.
And if your belief is there is this sudden uptick in train derailments and it's...
Because the evil forces are trying to poison the land, you will never see the forest for the trees.
You'll never understand what the actual issue that underlies this is, and you won't solve anything.
And guess what?
You'll stop paying attention to it a little bit down the line, probably.
jordan holmes
Because it's not interesting anymore.
dan friesen
No, because it's no longer part of this concerted effort by the evil alien.
jordan holmes
As far as I'm concerned, if you were going to call anything a conspiracy, I am 100% fine with you calling this a conspiracy between the fucking government and the railroad companies to make as much money as they can and keep workers from unionizing.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
It doesn't get more a conspiracy than that because it's the ultimate and the only real conspiracy in America.
Rich people getting more money and not receiving consequences for shit.
That's it.
That's the one conspiracy there is.
dan friesen
Right.
There are conspiracies available.
For sure.
That absolutely does happen.
But the way that people experience conspiracies is so far out of whack.
Because it's always about the conclusion as opposed to the conclusion being a byproduct of what was actually sought.
So there can be conspiracies that people engage in that are like, let's maximize profits.
And okay, there's going to be risks that are involved in it.
Let's just...
Go ahead and pursue this anyway.
So things like a train derailment or whatever is not a goal in and of itself of the conspiracy, but it is a risk that the pursuit of profit was willing to take on.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Expected.
Expected to occur and is part of the math.
dan friesen
I'm less comfortable with expected, but maybe...
You'd have reason to think it could happen.
jordan holmes
To me, that is saying that oil companies didn't know that climate change was going to happen.
It was expected.
This is part of the result of what they're doing, and they don't care about that being part of the result because it's money to them.
The result is money.
dan friesen
Here's where I draw a distinction.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Yes, they could mathematically look at the odds of a train derailment happening and be like, yeah, it's gonna happen, or whatever, right?
That is something I could believe.
I don't think that they would necessarily know that this train derailment would happen.
jordan holmes
No, absolutely not.
dan friesen
And something of that scale.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Or whatever.
That's why I would think it's a little bit different than your example about climate change, because that's a little bit more one-to-one.
jordan holmes
Right, I respect that.
You're right, there is a difference between those two arguments.
I will say, though, that I don't find that compelling as a dodge.
Just because you didn't plan for this train derailment to happen doesn't mean that the train derailment is not expressly your fault.
And it is also expressly the fault of the Biden administration for ending the Union strike.
dan friesen
I think that those are very fair placements of blame.
jordan holmes
Right.
And those two things will never be held accountable for this because of the one conspiracy there is, rich people get money and get no consequences for it.
dan friesen
It's a challenge.
jordan holmes
It's a challenge.
But instead of dealing with that, I think what we should do is blame aliens.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it's the surest way to make sure nothing gets done.
And...
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
I mean, I don't know.
If I were people who were at least in some ways responsible for creating the conditions where something like this is more likely to happen...
I'd be thrilled if people were blaming aliens.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
Totally.
Those conspiracies would be the least threatening thing at all.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
The Sackler family, it must be like, oh, blame Bill Gates for things.
They just signed the bankruptcy.
The judge just signed on a bankruptcy settlement that's like, hey, you guys keep $10 billion and you're fine.
It's like, well, that's the only conspiracy there is.
dan friesen
We come to the end of this.
I swear to God, I think they said there was going to be zombies with Bluetooth.
jordan holmes
Oh, they better be.
dan friesen
This is frustrating.
jordan holmes
Zombies with Bluetooth is the scariest thing I can imagine.
dan friesen
Because they're rude.
jordan holmes
You won't even know.
dan friesen
They're talking on their earpiece.
jordan holmes
You won't know if they're talking to you or not.
They're saying brains and you're like, I'm right here, man.
dan friesen
They might be talking to another zombie that they called on their earphone Bluetooth headset.
jordan holmes
You want to meet up at the mall?
dan friesen
Brains.
It's just rude.
jordan holmes
It is.
dan friesen
You know, when you're like, I'd be working at the movie theater back in the day and someone would be in the line and they'd be talking on the phone and like, oh, who needs some popcorn?
And they'd be like, they just go back to their conversation.
Zombies acting like that would be infuriating.
jordan holmes
Unacceptable.
I would rather be bitten by a zombie than deal with zombies doing that.
dan friesen
Anyway, come to the end of this, and it's been an interesting dive in.
I don't think I learned all that much about the balloons, nor UFOs.
jordan holmes
Was that what we were talking about?
dan friesen
That was kind of why I started this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that makes sense.
dan friesen
I wanted to learn about the more focused information on the balloons, because, you know, with Alex, you can kind of predict where it's going.
Sure.
You know.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
China.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
They're doing bad.
We got it.
dan friesen
So, anyway, we'll be back.
jordan holmes
Indeed we will.
dan friesen
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep.
We are also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight.
dan friesen
Yep.
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX.
Clark, I just fucking love this drop.
alex jones
Oh, you know what?
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes
Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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