#757: December 13, 2022 dissects Alex Jones’ failed attempt to rehabilitate Nick Fuentes after Ye’s Holocaust denial remarks, where Alex pivoted from criticizing Ye to inviting Nick—who doubled down on anti-Semitic tropes like "the Jewish question" and media control claims. Despite Alex’s weak defenses (e.g., Georgia Guidestones conspiracy) and deflection (ADL vs. "anti-white racism"), Nick’s extremism went unchallenged, exposing Jones’ reliance on conspiracy distractions over substantive debate. The episode underscores how fringe platforms normalize dangerous ideologies by avoiding accountability. [Automatically generated summary]
And so on the fly, essentially, just decided we're gonna streamline this thing so it's not the same thing over and over again, being like, hey, Alex is doing a bad job of this.
Spoiler alert.
Here's another way of saying Alex is doing a bad job of this.
I appreciate whenever people are trying their best to like...
Rectify their mythology of, like, you know, the revelations are coming and the Antichrist and all that stuff with reality of, like, we're developing super intelligent machines that are probably going to outpass us eventually.
Like, we just know that they will sooner or later.
I would say that if you are gearing up to have a little debate with a guy who may or may not be a Nazi, It really is funny that you're taking a call like this seriously.
And it's indicative of not propaganda or anything along those lines, but it's indicative of our culture being one where if you take what someone says at face value, you are a rube.
Yeah, because so much troll shit is all over the place, and everybody, like, they get off on saying something, and then you take them seriously, and you're like, oh, I didn't need that.
But the trick that Nick is using here is just this really just very, very simple thing that's painfully transparent once you notice it.
What he's doing here is that he and Ye came into the Infowars studio and went to all these other platforms and they said all this shit that was just over-the-top anti-Semitic.
They went as far as denying the Holocaust.
It was...
Nonsense.
This naturally has prompted a response from people who find this shit abhorrent, and they've gotten a lot of criticism for this over-the-top anti-Semitic shit.
Now, Nick is coming back and he's saying, look at all these people who are so focused on the anti-Semitic over-the-top shit that we said.
Isn't it suspicious that all this feedback that we've gotten has been about the Jewish stuff?
Doesn't that kind of prove that we were right to begin with?
Like, why aren't they talking about all this other stuff?
The backlash that Nick wanted to provoke is being used to give the appearance of credibility to his initial points, namely that Jews run everything and that they're trying to crush yay and all the people who would speak out against them.
Um...
I think this trick is so prominent in, again, that troll-y sort of ecosystem where it's like you do say something inflammatory.
You elicit the response that people would naturally have taking what you say at face value.
And then you're like, I can't believe that everybody's so focused on responding to the thing that I said.
Submitted an appropriations request in response to the interview we did.
Now you've got, you know, whether you thought it was entertaining, whether you thought it was revolutionary, you have Ye with a mask on, with a yoo-hoo and a net saying, I love Hitler.
And the ADL is shaking the cup with Congress.
We need $500 million to fight anti-Semitism.
It's outrageous.
He's been banned from the bank.
He's had his deals shut down by Nike and Adidas to the tune of billions of dollars over 10 years.
You can see there how Alex has a mission and it's to create absurd distractions in order to keep the audience from focusing on the central point and why any of this matters.
At least when these kinds of issues are being discussed and when he needs to provide cover for bigots.
I can't imagine anyone being seriously concerned that Ye's whole thing has been a false flag to get the ADL more funding.
For what it's worth, the ADL made the appropriations request that they're talking about, that Nick is saying, like, oh, it was in response to us?
It's an application for grants, and the $500 million increase involves their nonprofit security grant program.
This is something that the ADL runs that, quote, provides nonprofits with the capacity to increase their defense against threats, including physical security and cybersecurity capacity and coordination.
in reaction to his and yay's interview but that talking point just isn't true it's self-aggrandizement that makes it look like oh the establishment is so scared of these things that we're doing and yes in as much as people are scared that this rise um in in uh bigoted It's not that they're scared of...
So, one of the things that is always bad when you're dealing with someone like Nick, who at this point has literally no reason not to just be pretty upfront about things, you don't really want to ask them cut and dry questions.
So, Nick expressed support for Catholic fascist governments in the past, and his views of Christianity are entirely compatible with theocratic fascism.
Nick's construction of his feelings about Hitler historically, it's a meaningless statement.
He's coming at this with a position that's kind of close to there are a lot of bad figures who did bad things in the 20th century and Hitler is just one of them, which might be something that's okay to say if you hadn't just made an entire media campaign out of expressing your love for Hitler.
People aren't expected to beat their chest and say they hate Hitler.
Alex did that performatively because Ye came on his show and said that shit and Alex was trying to protect his branding so the audience didn't run away.
I've never once felt the need to beat my chest and say I hate Hitler, but maybe things are different when you're a media figure who keeps saying you like Hitler.
Maybe if that's your reality, people will want you to walk it back because it's insane and dangerous.
No, no, I know that you're very vocally anti-Hitler over the years.
I know that you're more of a libertarian, and so you have this view of history which lumps in together Mao, Stalin, Hitler as authoritarians versus freedom fighters, capitalists, you know, Georgia, Washington, Thomas Jefferson.
So I'm familiar with your show and all of that.
And honestly, it was a little bit glib.
You called me baby Hitler.
I said you got a call.
You know, quite honestly, it's banter, but it is well known that you don't really talk about this issue.
You're more talking about New World Order, Bill Gates, and these sort of obscure conspiracy theories like Bilderberg.
My show's a lot more focused on, you know, what you might call the Jewish question, which is what are we to do about this Jewish elite, these Jewish gangsters that run our Christian country?
There's three things in that clip that I think are a real problem for him.
The first thing is that Alex is coming face to face with someone who is smart, quick witted, charismatic and understands the Infowars talking points.
Nick watched Alex in the past, so he knows what Alex preaches.
And because of that, he's going to be able to brush aside these narratives really easily.
You can see the way that Nick presents himself as talking about high-minded things, whereas Alex traffics in obscure conspiracy stuff like the Bilderberg Group.
Nick is asserting himself as high status here, and also putting Alex on notice that he isn't afraid to bring up the Bilderberg group himself, and if Alex does, he better be careful, because I might know some stuff about this.
So the second thing Alex should be worried about is Nick saying it's well known that you don't really talk about this issue.
If anybody is familiar with the way the Nick and the Groypers went about confronting Turning Point USA, they would hear some similarities between this.
There's a resonant echo that's there.
The third thing is that Nick literally said that his show deals with the Jewish question, and Alex said there's a good debate to have there.
No one, and I mean no one, outside of white supremacist, white nationalist, or neo-Nazi communities uses terms like the Jewish question, or the abbreviation JQ.
I guess people who monitor and criticize those communities or historians might use the term too, but you get what I mean.
And I would call the FTX folks and the federal regulators who all involved in this basically are Jewish, who are out there doing that, are criminals who happen to be Jewish who are hiding behind Judaism.
But I don't then blame the average Jew for that.
So I think that's the difference.
Kind of like when Ye and you were on...
With Gavin McGinnis, and he's like, well, you know, blacks commit as proportionate more crime than the other group, but you don't just blame the average black person.
Do you just not trust a Jew when they come in the room?
And yeah, he goes, yeah, I just, I don't, you know.
To me, that's what I'm saying is, I do believe in Martin Luther King, that we judge individuals by who they are and what they do, not by what color they are or where they're from.
Yeah, if you're Alex, you've tried to suggest to Nick that he's making a composition fallacy, where he takes the characteristics of an individual and then applies it to an entire group, and Nick says, nope.
I disagree.
There's something about being Jewish that makes a person bad.
At that point, you've reached a disagreement that words will not solve.
If you're Nick at this point, you have to be thinking that you're crushing Alex.
He didn't bat an eyelash when Nick said the Jewish question.
Nick has reaffirmed his admiration for Hitler, and now he's rebuking Martin Luther King's ideology in favor of anti-Semitism, and Alex has nothing.
He's just floundering here, giving Nick 101-level responses that are basically softballs.
And one of the things that he seems really preoccupied with is this notion that there's a conspiracy going around that Ye is secretly fundraising for the ADL.
What about what I asked earlier that I forgot to get back to?
The ADL wants $500 million.
They want more control over society because of Kanye West, Ye's little comments here.
I get he's obviously not a threat.
He doesn't control people's bank accounts.
That's a joke.
But then people say, is Ye really working for them to first wear a red hat, say he's a Trump supporter, and now come out and do this?
I've been around him.
I've talked to him a lot.
For a long time.
And I really don't think that's the case.
Just to clear this up, I saw some of your supporters saying, you know, Nick is so nice and got Kanye to his office and got him on air and introduced him to Kanye and to Ye, and then Jones did all that to poor Nick.
I've been talking to Ye for a long time.
He never come on the show.
I gave his number to...
Other folks to come on to Milo Yiannopoulos.
He got Nick Foyntes in touch with him.
So people want to blame me for this whole fiasco.
I got some involved.
But that was me saying, here, get them on their shows.
Part of what's so exciting for me as a young guy in the last couple months with everything that's going on is here's something out of all the stuff that we were put through, you and I, in the last two years and many others.
Between January 6th and the pandemic and BLM and the election fraud, here's finally a light at the end of the tunnel.
Here's finally a North Star, you know, West, maybe a West Star.
Here's something that we can finally look at and actually get excited about.
I met him, actually, in 2016, and I actually worked.
Maybe I didn't work on his campaign.
I think I campaigned with Cruz, actually, during the Republican primary in 16. But I was an early supporter of him, and I'm talking about when I was a senior in high school.
But I was a supporter of his.
I still am.
I think he's very intelligent.
But he's a libertarian, and he's just not really my kind of conservative.
I know you're more libertarian, so I think there's more overlap.
I'm really more in favor of bringing back a very strong Christian flavor of nationalism.
I don't know that I love that term.
I feel like it's being hijacked, but I want the government to be Christian, and I want us to have a true nationalism.
And never starts with burning all the Talmuds in Paris.
Okay?
It never starts that way.
But frequently, it seems to end that way.
And it gets there very rapidly.
Doesn't start there, but it frequently ends there.
But I would say that the Jews...
Had better start being nice to people like us.
Because what comes out of this is going to be a lot uglier and a lot worse for them than anything that's being said on this show or has been said on this show.
In spite of the fact that I have been bullied by the Jews and I have been oppressed and slandered and lied about and attacked by the Jews, I have been completely precise for the most part and even-handed.
And nuanced about my view about the situation.
And I'm also a Christian.
Which is going to matter.
Because it could be a lot worse, I'm going to say, than this show.
And what's going to come out of this could be, like I said, it could be a lot uglier than what we say on the show.
I know that there are other people that are going to push farther than that.
Once this conversation really starts, and the Jews are going to look at people like me in America first and say, damn, I miss when it was just that funny guy, and we pushed so hard, and this and that, because history has shown that once this train gets going...
And he's talking fairly similarly on Alex's show, but a little bit looser.
He has the Jews should be nicer to me because it's going to get worse later.
Laughing about it going from zero to 60. Once these conversations get going, which Nick, even by his own admission, is trying to get these conversations started.
Yeah.
I think it gives a pretty particular image of what Nick is, who he is, what he believes.
I don't understand why, if you're listening to this or watching this show, you hear that.
Why would you believe for a second Alex is sincere in his, like, well, you don't really mean this.
Maybe if they get to a point where they can recognize the awfulness and what they're actually in and be like, oh, I should probably try and change, then I think there is a possibility for people to change and recognize that kind of stuff.
But if you're arguing with Nick, if you hear somebody say this, you're not going to win an argument.
You don't need to engage.
That, to me, I don't understand why there would even be, like, what is it about this person, Nick, that Alex sees as worth trying to have some sort of a conversation with?
You have to ask that question.
And it's not a question that leads you anywhere other than Alex has a tacit agreement with Nick about this.
He won't...
He won't be as overt as Nick, but they're on the same page.
Again, you really, I think, spoke to it earlier in the last hour where you said, well, you're off over there on these kind of side issues of Bill Gates, the WEF, and, you know, this stuff.
But, you know, we're over here with the Jews.
The WEF and the big corporations, the New World Order and Xi Jinping are mass murdering people, are bringing in tyranny and lockdowns and world IDs.
And controls, and whether they're Chinese or whether they're German or Jewish, I'm just opposing these tyrannical objectives, and I kind of want a big tent for all of that, and I just think it's a First Amendment, but I do think it's dangerous to then sit there and just invoke all of this and say that Jews are the powerful Jewish mafias who basically run the world.
I don't even think it's really disputed anymore after what happened to Ye in that clip that you played with Greenblatt from the ADL.
Look at him.
I mean, he was somebody who even in 2018, four years ago, was saying things that are regarded as politically incorrect.
And people throw that around.
They say, oh, that's politically incorrect.
Like, it's this broad, nebulous thing.
It's actually very specific.
He said, like, partisan, conservative talking points in 18, and he was just fine.
And he went on Tucker Carlson, and he called out China and called out a lot of things, and he was just fine.
Then he switched up on the Jews.
He was banned from Fox News.
He was banned from Daily Wire.
And I don't have to go through the whole list, but we've all seen the cascading effect of this Adidas deal cut, gab deal cut.
His bank froze.
Tens of millions of dollars.
You know, I mean, it's unbelievable.
If that doesn't prove it, and then the ADL is going around now, and they're not just fundraising, but they're passing around a letter in Congress, and they're demanding that nobody give him a platform.
But how do you square it up that Jews in Israel have been under the most draconian lockdowns in the world after China and have been given the deadly shot and one of the highest death rates from the shot?
I mean, if they're all powerful, why is this biomedical tyranny targeting them and doing that to them?
Well, it wouldn't even make any sense because if they were going around giving everybody the vaccine and that's supposed to take out everybody, well, who are the most vaccine hesitant?
Who's going to be remaining when they're...
And don't get me wrong, I think the shot is deadly.
I didn't get vaccinated at all.
But the idea that this is some kind of...
That the Georgia Guidestones are dictating global politics, I think is just ridiculous.
He doesn't agree with Alex on fundamental, base-level aspects of reality, so without addressing that, this conversation is convoluted.
Alex can't convince Nick of anything because Nick is a reasonably smart person and he's not one of Alex's trapped audience members.
Alex's flimsy distractions and nonsensical conspiracies work on his listeners because they're not really processing what he's saying and almost every guest that he has on is a fellow con artist so they just know how to play along.
Nick doesn't care about pretending to agree with Alex's stupid shit because he has his own agenda to advance.
So you have a rejection of fundamental elements of Alex's world being voiced comfortably and confidently on the show by someone Alex has complimented as smart repeatedly.
That's a problem, and it's why you see Alex begin to interrupt Nick more at this point in the interview.
When he hears, I don't know how convincing that is, Alex knew he couldn't let that sentence continue because Nick is about to explain why Alex's idea is unconvincing, and that is dangerous.
Alex's ideas aren't supposed to be possible to disagree on because they're based on discernment and documents and divine revelation.
If Nick continued down that path, Alex would be unable to show his world to be real at all, and he'd be forced to fall back on outbursts and theatrics, which looks bad in comparison to Nick being calm, collected, non-confrontational for the most part, even keel, and I just don't think even those tricks would work.
It's interesting because I don't know how much Alex does know this, but Nick has a lot of experience in those online debates that do just deteriorate into screaming at each other.
And it makes me wonder, if Alex is aware of that, then he would know that Nick can handle someone yelling at him and he doesn't give a shit.
So, I don't know.
Maybe it's intuition, but just like...
I don't think Alex is much up for the screaming at him.
So yeah, I have not been to Israel myself, but I do know a number of people who have been, and I've gotten reporting of spitting on zero of those accounts.
You say this whole thing about Bill Gates is a side issue.
No, that's the central issue, and I see this whole leftist thing saying America's Hitler and...
You know, the leftist groups are Captain America.
I see it just as what it is.
And I just hope that all of us can come together and transcend the cashless society and the world government, the forced injections and the imploding borders.
And I'm just trying to get everybody together on those issues.
Instead of obsessing about different groups all day.
You know, there's whole groups that think Catholics run everything.
And I don't think that's the case.
And I don't think that Jews run everything.
I mean, who do you think runs China with a billion, 500 million people?
And I think that's why, I mean, there are problems in China, but China is a country that is fighting ruthlessly for its own self-interest.
And you could say that it's a tyrannical state, but China's always been a tyrannical state.
They're a different kind of society.
The Chinese people are very collectivist.
They're very societally minded.
They're very obedient and deferential.
And that's their culture, and that's who they are.
But there's no question that the Chinese Standing Committee...
And Xi Jinping are going out to bat every day to get great trade deals for China in the way that our Jewish leaders in America are not working for people in Oklahoma and Iowa.
Does anybody believe the Hollywood Jews in L.A. and the finance Jews in New York and the government Jews in D.C. and the ones in South Florida, does anybody think they care at all?
They give a damn about people in Texas or people in Kansas or people in Iowa?
They don't.
In the same way that...
You could say Putin or Xi Jinping care, I think, about their countrymen, or Assad cares about the people of Syria.
So Alex's whole thing was that he wanted to take a bunch of calls with Nick, but weirdly, there's like 20 minutes left in the show at this point, and he hasn't gone to calls.
So this is about as close as Alex gets to condemning Nick's views, and it's the weakest position possible.
He has no actual criticism of what Nick has said.
He just thinks that there's a black hole that people get sucked into, and that's what the sinister forces, I guess the globalists, want.
This is boilerplate shit, and it means nothing.
to transcend things on policy, ideas, and actual issues.
None of that has happened on the show at all today.
Nick has been pretty clear about the policies he'd like to explore in this and other appearances.
He wants to abolish the First Amendment, wants to create federal laws regarding where Jews can and cannot work, and basing most of the government's decisions on a rigid fundamentalist interpretation of Christianity.
If Alex actually wanted to transcend things, whatever that means, in the realm of policy, he could have started there.
Defeat Nick's desire to ban pornography and even sexy images in the battlefield of ideas by explaining how that attack on speech It's the simplest thing in the world.
It's Alex's marquee issue.
And instead of even taking that much of a risk, Alex just moped around, building defenses for the horrible shit Nick says, and then using the First Amendment as a shield for why he and Nick shouldn't be criticized for having this conversation.
It's coward shit, even if you entirely buy into Alex's worldview.
If you're a listener of his show and you believe all of it, you should be watching this interview and questioning whether or not Alex is the champion he pretends to be because he seems like a loser little titty baby.
And let me just make my point here, and then I'm basically done debating and arguing all this.
I don't judge Nick Fuentes, even though I disagree with him, on some issues here.
Because you can't have the left viciously saying that white people are inherently the devil.
I have stacks of articles here where major universities in Michigan, California, New York are going to make white people wear badges that digitally track them and don't let them go in certain areas.
And who's running that?
The ADL.
The ADL at their last three conferences said I'm the number one enemy.
We track the lawsuits, the attacks, everything to them.
But I'm not going to blame the average Jew.
For what that horrible mafia is doing to me and my family.
In the process of trying to sum up his point, Alex uses fake stories to exaggerate the oppression of white people in order to make Nick's ideology not look so extreme.
See, now listen, I know it sounds crazy for Nick to want to genocide people, but the ADL wants to genocide people, so it seems like Nick's a great guy.
That whole thing about white people wearing badges, I think it was from a 2022 midterm election attack on Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers.
Evers had worked as the superintendent of the Department of Public Instruction between 2009 and 2019.
At some point during that span, the DPI worked with a group called Volunteers in Service to America, or VISTA.
In 2013, Vista handed out a document titled Addressing Racial Privilege, a Mental Model for White Anti-Racists, which included a section that had a suggestion of wearing a white wristband that you can use as a conversation starter about your commitment to equality and acknowledgement of white privilege.
I believe that that's the story that's at the root of this.
So one of the things that was a roadblock in terms of our initial attempt to record this episode, I believe, now in hindsight, I realize that it was the incessant Alex...
Pointing to the ADL being bad in order to make Nick not look as bad.
I oppose that because it is an offshoot of this eugenics operation.
And I'm an expert on it.
I know all about it, and I don't just read history books.
And I'm not going to tell the whole story here, and I've never even told the whole story because it's amazing.
But again, Dallas, Texas, one side of my grandfather's family were old Texans.
The other side, the Hammonds, were Germans who'd come here pretty recently, and they were not Jewish.
They were blonde-haired, blue-eyed.
And they were in World War II, and they know what went on, and they told me, no, Hitler was bad.
And they told me what went on and how the rich Germans in Dallas, once Hitler got into power in 1933, they would blackmail German family members, not my family, but people that my grandfather worked with, and suck money out of them.
So when I heard about Hitler doing that and blackmailing people and sucking money, my family told me went on.
So I grew up actually hearing about all of that.
Then my grandfather worked in secret weapons programs.
And I only heard a little bit of it that my mom heard him talk about.
He would never talk about it.
But I remember him bitching when I'm like eight years old about in weapons projects and how he knew Wernher von Braun, all of it, and how he had to deal with these damn Nazis and how arrogant they were and how he didn't like them.
So, I mean, I grew up with both grandfathers have been in World War II.
They both dealt with the Nazis, and they both didn't like Nazis.
And so I didn't get it from Captain America.
I didn't get it from Hollywood.
I didn't get it from any of that.
I got it from my badass grandfather.
So now I look at people today like, I look like these guys were freaking badasses.
And, you know, they don't make men like that anymore.
Especially if you're expecting to enter a conversation with a guy who you clearly know loves Hitler and basically has neo-Nazi-ish ideas.
I think you should be able to articulate your opposition to Hitler and the Third Reich better than saying Werner von Braun and his buddies were arrogant.
And Nazis extorted people.
I think that this is soft, possibly intentionally.
And then second, he said this exact thing in the yay interview.
And like these anecdotal stories and stuff, that is much more reality to him than something that happened to somebody who he doesn't know, or the broader picture of the atrocities and horrors of World War II.
When the left is literally redlining the engine when it comes to race-based politics and the ADL is captaining it, teaching elementary students, they're inherently bad because of what color they are.
But my issue is, I'm not going to sink.
To the level of the ADL.
But I say, mess around, find out.
Like Nick Foyntes said earlier, you think Nick Foyntes is your ultimate enemy.
The support for what Ye said was 50-50.
I wanted to demarcate the fact that I'm not for authoritarianism, and I don't agree with what happened, some of the things he said.
I don't agree with the censorship and what's happened to him, but I'm not in league with that whole worldview, so that's where I'm at.
I would like, rather than going on the journey to find out where Alex is at, I would like him to tell me where he's at and then show his work if he must.
Well, and I think that another thing, too, that kind of muddies the waters even more is that this is, for all intents and purposes, a conversation between two people, but it's also a performance.
And as much as they know they're being recorded, it's also Alex...
Doing his show and kind of not trying any harder than he normally does.
And Nick being pretty overt and comfortable in his own position in a way that he hasn't been on Alex's show in the past.
So there is a persuasive element that Nick is bringing to it that Alex thinks that he is also bringing to it that he is not.
And that kind of...
That can kind of...
another variable to it where you accuse these people of being like, ah, this is the most horribly racist thing in the world and not acknowledge the thing that that is in that the conversation that Alex and Nick are having because it's part of the performance Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Totally.
But yeah, I mean, I think this has just been awful.
It's been very bad.
Nick sucks.
Has gone as far possibly further than Ye did on his interview.
I think a lot of people didn't, and I can say for sure, based on the number of tweets that come in, it was a flood when Ye was on, and a couple when this happened.
So I think that there is something that is like, well...
This is dangerous.
This is fucking awful.
It's definitely going to have an effect on Alex's audience.
And there is a real danger of him swaying some of them over.
But in terms of this having the same kind of broad effect that Ye being on had, it's less.
But in my head, if I'm an Alex Jones InfoWars fan, one of the big things that I'm a fan of is that this loud, angry man is right all the time, and he's giving it to him the way that it needs to be given.
And she was sitting there listening to this conversation.
Oh, God.
And people need to realize, especially, you know, people like you, Nick, that have an influence over younger people, need to be very careful with their words.
Extremely careful.
You don't realize what kind of influence you have.
I think, honestly, this is my personal opinion, you can do what you want to, but I think you need to read the Bible cover to cover a few more times before you make any more comments.
So we have one last clip here, and these callers suck, because there is legit pushback that a caller could make on what Nick is bringing to the table within the conception of InfoWars.
I'm not Amish, so I don't think living in Christ means living in a low-tech society.
I'm living in Christ every day.
I'm a Christian.
I go to church.
I pray every day.
I pray the rosary.
And what we're called to do, we're called to go out and evangelize and tell the truth.
There's horrible iniquity and horrible injustice going on in the world.
If you're a Christian, you have to be disgusted.
At the state of our country.
Like I said, the filth in the media, the filth in our school system, the groomers, the porn, the media, it's terrible.
And to sit by and watch all these innocent people in some kind of quietest, you know, people call this the Benedict option, I think it's a dereliction of duty.
And then the other thing is the trying to be like, hey, you were trying to be sensational and trying to piss off the sound.
Defensors and all this.
Trying to give Nick excuses for him that he doesn't want.
In the same way that he was doing that with Ye.
And this doesn't bode well.
Alex's behavior does not make me confident that he's going to be able to navigate the more choppy waters that we're going to be getting into as we get closer to the 2024.
Whether or not Ye continues as a quote-unquote candidate or not.
But even if he doesn't, this isn't where this ends.