#758: December 8, 2003
Today, Dan is sick, so he and Jordan travel back to the past to answer a very important question: what do you get when you combine a Master Mason, a Klansman, and an incompetent radio host? Turns out, you get this episode.
Dec. 19, 2022 - Knowledge Fight
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| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and George. | |
| Knowledge. | ||
| Fight. | ||
| Need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
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I love you. | |
| Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan! | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Quick question for you, buddy. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today? | ||
| I feel like we got a little lag going here that wasn't there before we started recording. | ||
| It was not there at all about two and a half seconds ago, and now I feel it. | ||
| This is incredibly disorienting, but we'll make the best of it. | ||
| So my bright spot today is not that we are recording remotely, because I got a little bit of a sickness. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I have come down with a bad case of loving you. | ||
| No, I don't know what it is, but I took a COVID test, and it's not that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| And yet, we're still recording remotely because, you know, could be any number of different things as wiser now in this day and age to be smart about things like this, you know? | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| I hit the button and the blast doors came down to the studio and I'm locked in. | ||
| But my bright spot, actually, is that it happened before I fell ill, and that is that I was taking a couple bags of buttons, packages of buttons, to the mailbox down the street, because I can't just leave them in my apartment. | ||
| They wouldn't pick them up. | ||
| You just throw them out the window and you expect the birds to take them where they need to go. | ||
| It would be nice if I had carrier pigeons that would take things to Scotland. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But I was on my way down there and I saw a mail truck. | ||
| And so I walked up to it and I asked the guy, like, hey, I'm about to take these down to this mailbox. | ||
| Any way you could just take them from me? | ||
| And he's like, of course! | ||
| No, really? | ||
| Yeah, it was just a little thing, but it was so nice. | ||
| So positive, this mail carrier. | ||
| And, like, I don't know. | ||
| It really brightened my spirits. | ||
| You know, I mean, that's so cool because part of me honestly expects that response to that to be like, no, it's illegal. | ||
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Right, right. | |
| Or there's a policy that I can't break. | ||
| There's some reason where it's like, I can't accept this by hand. | ||
| There's, you know, God or any number of reasons, right? | ||
| Yeah, we can't have definitive trail of custody or chain of custody. | ||
| It has to go in a box at some point. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| But yeah, that was really cool. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| I appreciate that. | ||
| Yeah, that's great. | ||
| So how about you? | ||
| What's your bright spot? | ||
| My bright spot, it's kind of more like a twilight spot to some extent. | ||
| My bright spot is the World Cup final was today. | ||
| Yeah, just ended, right? | ||
| And it was... | ||
| I mean, I couldn't do it justice to describe what happened with 10,000 words. | ||
| Everybody's already describing it as the greatest World Cup final that's ever existed, right? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know? | ||
| A lot of excitement. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| I mean, it really was astonishing to watch. | ||
| But on the other hand, it made me think of, like, the pyramids. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| You mean like in Egypt and other countries? | ||
| Ancient pyramids? | ||
| Ancient pyramids. | ||
| It made me think about how we still go see them. | ||
| And what they are is really monuments to what you can build with slavery and blood. | ||
| That kind of thing. | ||
| Interesting perspective. | ||
| Because I actually heard from a guy that they were used to store grain. | ||
| That's possible. | ||
| He was a doctor. | ||
| Well, I mean, aliens have to keep their grain somewhere, and it was at the time. | ||
| But yeah, this World Cup is one of the most amazing things I've ever seen, and it's also a testament to what can be billed with blood and slavery. | ||
| So it's a terrible thing and an amazing thing. | ||
| Do you mean that the French and Argentinian soccer teams were built on blood and slavery? | ||
| No, but the arena was. | ||
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Oh. | |
| Oh, I see. | ||
| I forgot that it was in Qatar. | ||
| And Elon Musk was there, right? | ||
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Hey! | |
| I guess he was. | ||
| Hey, look, that's my other bright spot. | ||
| This Elon Musk guy is doing some great things at Twitter. | ||
| Maybe that's part of why it made me think of the pyramids. | ||
| What are these awful billionaires but modern-day pharaohs, right? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It's terrifying. | ||
| That's my bright spot. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over, even though I have fallen ill. | ||
| And look, the mill, the podcast mill can't be closed just because the foreman is closed. | ||
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Whether rain, nor sleet, nor sickness, or hail. | |
| Right. | ||
| I would take the day off, but that mailman really inspired me. | ||
| There's nothing you can do. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| But because my voice may not hold out. | ||
| We may have a little bit of a shorter episode today. | ||
| We're going to be back in 2003, talking about December 8th, 2003. | ||
| Good idea. | ||
| And I think even without that, I still probably might have put Alex in his time-out spot for bad behavior, even if I wasn't ill. | ||
| But today, yeah, this episode is a lot of calls. | ||
| A lot of calls! | ||
| That's fun! | ||
| Call heavy. | ||
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That's good. | |
| And unfortunately, I am a witch. | ||
| And when I say that I would put him on timeout, it would work against me because of what ends up happening in some of these calls. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| What is this, the episode where Common reveals he's an anti-Semite on InfoWars? | ||
| Unless Common goes by... | ||
| Greg in New Mexico or whatever. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| When did B get released? | ||
| Because I feel like it was right around this time. | ||
| Was he on a promotional tour? | ||
| I don't believe that Common is backpacking at the Infowar studio, but these callers, terrible. | ||
| So we'll get down to business on that, but before we do, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| Ooh, that's a great idea. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk! | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Next, Alex Jones can eat my ass. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Well, thank you very much. | ||
| And curb your existentialism's missing hoodie is a false flag. | ||
| Also, my 401k isn't doing so well of late, bro. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| And we get a technocrat in the mix, Jordan, so... | ||
| This person told me to read this as the symbols exist. | ||
| I think it's some kind of a coding joke. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure, so maybe the robots will find this real funny. | ||
| All right, all right. | ||
| It could be. | ||
| We're in WALL-E. | ||
| So, techflaxamaxathus, apostrophe, close parentheses, semicolon, drop table, technocrat, semicolon, dash, dash. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Four stars. | |
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
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He's a loser little titty baby. | |
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ. | ||
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Thank you very much. | |
| I hope that wasn't some sort of a missile launch code or something that I have just let out. | ||
| I'm worried that you drew something horrifying in ASCII. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| So, Jordan, today we start off, and here is the vibe that Alex is putting out into the universe. | ||
| And it's a vibe that, it's a Monday, man. | ||
| This is a Monday show, and it's a real Monday-ass vibe. | ||
| It's already another Monday, a big, fat week spanning out before us. | ||
| It is the 8th of December. | ||
| 2003. | ||
| He's got a big, fat week. | ||
| Big, fat week ahead of us. | ||
| Big, fat week. | ||
| That's what I say whenever it's Monday. | ||
| Look at this, fat week. | ||
| Yeah, well, I mean, what you're forgetting is this, again, we're back in 2003. | ||
| This is P-H-A-T. | ||
| This is prime P-H-A-T time. | ||
| So whenever people say it was a big, fat week, you know what it means. | ||
| Well, I mean, like in the last year, I would hear Alex constantly say that we have a thick with two C's week coming up. | ||
| So, we get to talking about some actual stuff pretty quickly. | ||
| Like I said, Alex takes calls pretty consistently throughout this show. | ||
| And as a testament to that, here is our second clip, is a caller. | ||
| Already a call! | ||
| Already a caller. | ||
| And this caller is a guy who works in law enforcement. | ||
| Oh, that's not good. | ||
| And he claims, I believe that this is actually probably true, he claims that he works with Chuck Norris, because Chuck Norris is like a deputized honorary police officer of some kind. | ||
| Wait, wait, I thought that was Steven Siegel. | ||
| Were they both deputies? | ||
| I think a lot of them might have dabbled in... | ||
| Wasn't Shaq a deputy sheriff, honorary sheriff, too? | ||
| I've never thought this before, but thank God Bruce Lee is dead so we didn't find out that he's a cop in New Orleans or something later on. | ||
| He was honorary CIA for a while. | ||
| That would be great. | ||
| So anyway, here's this caller talking about Chuck Norris, and we learned something unfortunate about this caller. | ||
| And probably about Chuck Norris. | ||
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Yeah, that sounds great. | |
| One of my officers, I had a reserve force at the department I worked at, and one of my officers was Chuck Norris. | ||
| Chuck's a big, really a good guy, but he's a big Bush supporter and big, but I'm sending him your videos, by the way. | ||
| He's very smart, and we were having a discussion a couple of years ago. | ||
| He had filmed one of his shows, it was a Christmas show, and he was really having some trouble with CBS. | ||
| And I said, what's the deal? | ||
| And he said, they don't want me to mention baby Jesus. | ||
| And I said, why? | ||
| And he said, well, why do you think? | ||
| He said, the Jewish influence in the media is really, really strong. | ||
| Now, I'm not anti-Jewish. | ||
| In fact, I'm not at all. | ||
| I'm not anti-anything. | ||
| No, I mean, certainly, but it's wrong for those executives who obviously don't like Christianity. | ||
| To try to mold things, and that's been on the record. | ||
| Yeah, so Chuck Norris can't mention... | ||
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You're a witch! | |
| You're a witch, man! | ||
| Can't mention the baby Jesus because of the Jewish influence on the media. | ||
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What? | |
| And Alex has a disappointing reaction to that caller. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
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I was going back and listening to this, and right out of the gate, I'm like, what the fuck is going on? | |
| Like, I know that... | ||
| I know that even in other periods of 2003 that we've gone back to, there have been undertones, and obviously there's some anti-Semitic conversation going on, and bigoted stuff of various stripes. | ||
| But going back and just being like, well, there's overt. | ||
| It's pretty overt in some of these episodes. | ||
| And right in your face. | ||
| Yeah, I mean... | ||
| You know, there's a part of it that makes me think one of the reasons that we're kind of unused to it right now is because I guess 20 years ago, they just didn't feel the need to speak it out loud to each other because their anti-Semitism was never under threat. | ||
| You know, now that people are paying attention to it, then it's now it's time to start going absolutely crazy. | ||
| But it was always there. | ||
| It was always there. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, and it'll be more there as this episode goes along, too. | ||
| This color is not an anomaly, let's say, on this episode. | ||
| Very weird. | ||
| That's where we start. | ||
| It's not going to be like, okay, well, now we need to respect all peoples. | ||
| I didn't think so. | ||
| So, on this episode, Alex does spend a fair amount of time talking about how great gold is doing, and gold prices through the roof and what have you. | ||
| Good. | ||
| And he has been on other episodes in 2003, too, that I've been listening to, but he never mentions that he works for Midas Resources and that they sell gold. | ||
| He's not doing the second stage of the gold sale thing, but it is so obvious that he's selling gold. | ||
| He's marketing gold. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And so here's a little clip of that, and then a big, if true, news story. | ||
| It's not true. | ||
| This is very, very serious. | ||
| And, you know, I said I'd check it during the break, and I didn't check it. | ||
| I was busy thumbing around through these articles trying to find that World at Daily and AP article about the judge down in South Texas saying that if people at their graduation ceremony say the word Jesus, they'll be given six months in jail. | ||
| Hey, George, will you check that for me? | ||
| Check the price of gold? | ||
| I wanted to check that, and it's my fault I forgot during the break. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| If you mention Jesus Christ, you're gonna get six months in jail. | ||
| See, here's the thing. | ||
| I understand why saying if you mention Jesus Christ is war, like, emotionally charged for people. | ||
| But if there was a law that was any word leds you six months in jail, I'd be furious about it, right? | ||
| Like, it doesn't matter if it's Jesus Christ. | ||
| Or, like, and. | ||
| If and let you six months in jail, I'd be furious, too. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, like, I guess yelling fire in a crowded building, if you lead to, like, people dying by, like, stampede, then maybe you could get a manslaughter charge or something. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But, like, that's a pretty specific circumstance. | ||
| It takes a lot of other problems going on around you before that becomes the central one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe at, like, a graduation speech, they don't want you to just, like, give a sermon. | ||
| Maybe at a public school, they don't necessarily... | ||
| Maybe that's not encouraged. | ||
| But also, by the way, why is a judge giving this press conference like, we will lock you up if you say Jesus? | ||
| There you go, silly. | ||
| Here's the problem, okay? | ||
| He's locked up 30 or 40 people already for saying Jesus Christ, and he's just getting tired of it. | ||
| Maybe people don't know about how you get locked up for saying it. | ||
| So he's giving you a nice prep. | ||
| This is more of a warning than it is a... | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Hey, just don't do it. | ||
| You know, this is like a falling rock sign. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we get another caller, and this person has a bit of a perspective that is like, hey, you know what's great? | ||
| Forced prayer in school. | ||
| Oh, great. | ||
| And if you don't like that, you can get the fuck out. | ||
| I don't like that. | ||
| Get out of the country. | ||
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No! | |
| This wasn't what I was going to talk about, but I want to make a comment on it. | ||
| When my children were young, I'm grateful that they had a teacher in a small school. | ||
| That led them in that little prayer you mentioned. | ||
| God is great. | ||
| God is good. | ||
| Let us thank him for our food. | ||
| Let me stop you. | ||
| You'll be now expelled from school if you say that. | ||
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Right. | |
| I think since we were founded as a Christian nation, those that are offended should just leave this nation and let us go on as a Christian nation. | ||
| Yeah, man, if you don't like our tendencies towards theocracy and you don't like our indoctrination of kids in public schools into Christianity, get the fuck out. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| All I'm saying is that... | ||
| The border is right there. | ||
| All I'm saying is that if there's a child from a different culture, they need to go to an American school, have that culture torn from their bodies, assimilate into whiteness and only white Christian theocracy, and then everything's going to be fine. | ||
| I feel like people are overreacting to my advice. | ||
| Conversely, they have another choice, and that's get out. | ||
| They could get out. | ||
| Yeah, so when we hear in the present day, you know, like Nick Fuentes coming in and talking a bit about, like, these tendencies towards Christian theocracy, Christian nationalism, it is not a foreign conversation to the mentality of a lot of Infowars listeners, even over, like, far earlier times. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, it makes you wonder, like... | ||
| Perhaps part of the reason that he's so willing to throw those bombs is because, you know, maybe 15 years ago it started becoming more important not to do those types of things. | ||
| And so the right-wing commentators took their anti-Semitism and the like into that coded language world. | ||
| And he wasn't alive for that. | ||
| He wasn't alive for the fallout from the first time everybody was like, what if we just hated Jews all the time? | ||
| You know? | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| He wasn't alive for a lot of these really important elements of the right wing. | ||
| He wasn't alive for what happened after Oklahoma City. | ||
| There's an argument to be made there that he probably doesn't recognize the stakes for the con people. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| And for the militia organizing. | ||
| Sure, and he's a kid, so you can always just point to this kid and be like, listen, I know you think you have had a brand new idea that no one's ever fucking thought of before, but I'm going to be honest with you, you have not. | ||
| Yeah, this ain't fresh, buddy. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| So Alex's main story on this episode appears to be that the Supreme Court has decided that there is no Second Amendment, which, I mean, he reports pretty much three or four times a year. | ||
| Based on a different story of some sort, and it is never true. | ||
| Yeah, 20 years on, I believe the Supreme Court has invalidated the Second Amendment at least 48 times. | ||
| It's unreal. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And so he's explaining some of this stuff to a caller who has a question about this ruling. | ||
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What does this new ruling by the Supreme Court do to Sheriff Mack's case that he brought before the... | |
| Well, and yes, they did rule that it was unconstitutional in 97, but you notice the Brady Bill is still in force. | ||
| If they don't like a ruling, the government just ignores it, the executive and legislative. | ||
| If they like a ruling, they'll enforce it, and the appeals court out in San Francisco, they ruled a few months ago that there is no Second Amendment. | ||
| That they can ban guns, any guns they wish, and the Supreme Court ruled that they agree with that ruling and are not going to hear the case. | ||
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So does Sheriff Mack's case still ban? | |
| Well, you know, each case is separate and different, and he's won his case, but again, the Brady Bill was kept in force and expanded. | ||
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But it is not constitutional. | |
| Yes, the Supreme Court said that they're not allowed to have instant checks and checks and all that, but they don't care. | ||
| It continues. | ||
| Hmm, indeed. | ||
| Completely unrelated to this caller or clip, the day after this episode was recorded, the Supreme Court decided that the Potomac River was under Virginia's control. | ||
| Maryland wanted to be in charge of the river, but the court said no. | ||
| And a court battle of who gets the river. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Alex is a really bad source of information because pretty much everything he's saying in that clip is incorrect. | ||
| He's telling this caller inaccurate information and then using that to construct false narratives about the reality that we all live in. | ||
| The 1997 Supreme Court case that Alex is talking about is Prince v. | ||
| United States, and it did not determine that the Brady Gunn bill was unconstitutional. | ||
| That bill had a provision that required gun background checks to be done for purchases, but on the federal level, that system was not prepared yet. | ||
| According to the bill, state law enforcement agencies were required to use their background check system to run this until such a time that the federal system was ready. | ||
| Prince v. | ||
| United States ruled that this was unconstitutional to make state law enforcement carry out federal law enforcement activity. | ||
| The state law enforcement folks were required to be asked to do this, and if they wanted to opt out, they could. | ||
| That was the result of this ruling. | ||
| Ultimately, most states had no problem with the setup and continued to participate by their own consent, and the issue became moot once the federal background check system was operational. | ||
| Naturally. | ||
| Alex is lying about the Supreme Court decision to tell this caller that the government ruled that background checks for gun purchases was unconstitutional, but they didn't care. | ||
| They just ignore rulings that they don't like. | ||
| This is a dangerous message to be sending to an audience like Alex's because if the government doesn't even follow Supreme Court decisions, then isn't everything a farce? | ||
| There's literally no way the public can be involved in politics since the globalists just decide who's going to win elections and they can just... | ||
| whether or not to follow their own court's decisions. | ||
| This is not a state of affairs that anyone rational or sincere would be presenting as just the way things are. | ||
| This would be a message that implies a need for action, and all civic participatory government-related actions are clearly pointless based on his telling. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. | ||
| This is the one, though, that is also the reason that Prince had to change his name to the symbol, right? | ||
| No, it's P-R-I-N-T-Z, so it's even cooler than Prince. | ||
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Ah, dang, that was so close. | |
| I just like the idea that the Supreme Court... | ||
| The thing about the Supreme Court is one of the reasons that it's so easily exploitable is because the actual decisions... | ||
| Are so nerdy and specific. | ||
| Like, no, no, no. | ||
| What we're really deciding on is whether or not this line is acceptable to cross by these very specific circumstances. | ||
| So you might as well just claim it does anything, right? | ||
| Like, who gets the river? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Very narrow. | ||
| Narrow circumstances. | ||
| So in talking about these cases and court decisions, Alex never uses specifics, and that's for two reasons. | ||
| One, he probably doesn't know any of them, because he's lazy and he does zero show prep. | ||
| Two, it's not in his interest to be specific, because he's lying, and he doesn't want to make it easy for his audience to follow up his claims and realize that. | ||
| Because he's so unspecific, I'm left to assume that the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals case in San Francisco that he's referring to is Nordyke v. | ||
| King. | ||
| Since that was a decision that came down in 2003 and was not accepted by the Supreme Court. | ||
| That ruling has to do, it's not with banning guns or declaring that there's no Second Amendment. | ||
| It was a situation where a gun dealer sued Alameda County because the county had passed an ordinance banning possession of guns on county property. | ||
| This included the fairgrounds, which is where Nordyke, the gun dealer, held gun shows. | ||
| That ordinance was passed in 1999, and the reason was stated as being because there was a shooting that happened the previous 4th of July at the Alameda Fair. | ||
| There was believed to be a bit of a gang confrontation that resulted in 10 injuries, including an 8-year-old boy and two other minors. | ||
| This case about this ordinance is the closest thing I can find to what Alex is talking about, and it's nowhere close to reflecting any of his narratives. | ||
| I wonder if he gives some specifics about this story later in the episode. | ||
| He doesn't. | ||
| He doesn't. | ||
| You shouldn't be optimistic that that information is going to come. | ||
| It's just this ruling, and because the Supreme Court decided not to hear it, now the Second Amendment's gone. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| They just ruled that a county does have the ability to ban guns on county property. | ||
| If you think that the Supreme Court and, I mean, if you think that the government is just enforcing whatever rules it likes or not, then, I mean, there's the conclusion that, you know, there's no point in participating in democracy at all. | ||
| But I would also imagine that if you have guns and Alex is telling you that guns are banned in this country and nobody's coming to stop you, then your assumption would be that they just don't want to do it, right? | ||
| Or they're waiting for the strategically right moment. | ||
| Oh, god dang it. | ||
| There's no win. | ||
| There's no win. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| It's always fucked. | ||
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God dang it. | |
| When your worldview and reality is largely based on creative writing prompts, it turns out you can just add new layers to things constantly to get you out of a jam. | ||
| Yeah, I would have kicked a lot of people out of the creative writing class if I were running it. | ||
| A lot of people would be gone. | ||
| I would say that as an exercise that's gone on for 20 years in creative writing, it's very repetitive. | ||
| We need some new themes and motifs to start appearing. | ||
| Your grade is see me after class. | ||
| So Alex has this idea about these gun bills and these Supreme Court rulings and what have you. | ||
| You know, the NRA is derelict in its duty because it's not telling people the fake versions of these bills that Alex is telling people. | ||
| I'm telling you, if the NRA and Shotgun News and others would tell the truth about these rulings and would stop pacifying gun owners, we'd get our Second Amendment back. | ||
| We'd be repealing the gun law next year, the assault weapons ban, instead of Bush expanding it. | ||
| But the average gun owner doesn't even know about this. | ||
| Because Rush Limbaugh and the NRA have done their job of keeping you in the dark. | ||
| As we saw in that last clip, it's Alex who's lying about these cases and rulings. | ||
| He's the one creating a false reality in order to scare his audience. | ||
| Alex needs to attack these more mainstream gun organizations because they don't live in his false reality. | ||
| The NRA can support gun rights all day long, but if they don't pretend this Supreme Court decision is the end of the Second Amendment, then according to Alex, they have to be liars and probably gun grabers in disguise. | ||
| This strategy has a couple of good effects from Alex's standpoint. | ||
| The first is that it makes anything the NRA does look less extreme and always not enough. | ||
| The audience will always demand that the gun rights organizations take a couple more steps than they should because they believe that they're responding to the fake stories Alex tells them. | ||
| The second effect is that the audience will push the NRA further towards living in Alex's false reality, or at least behaving as if that false reality were real in order to keep up with the base. | ||
| For any sense of this, consider that Ted Nugent was a fairly controversial person to associate with back at this point, and he's now a member of the NRA board. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, they have shifted a little due to this external pressure based on, you know, false stories. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, and at this point, you know, why aren't more people talking about it? | ||
| Well, most people don't own assault rifles. | ||
| I mean, an absurdly small number of people own assault rifles. | ||
| And the only people who are protecting them are people who are either overreacting because of a slippery slope argument or people who are, like, living in a... | ||
| A fucking bungalow in Brooklyn being like, I need a surface-to-air missile, otherwise I won't be safe. | ||
| It's like, what are you going to do? | ||
| Well, there's some other people who are focusing on this story, and they are folks who like to sell guns at the fairgrounds in Alameda County. | ||
| Those people are maybe paying close attention to the story. | ||
| Those people are paying very close attention. | ||
| But I think they understand that Alex's story is bullshit. | ||
| If they are. | ||
| So, we had earlier a story that is clearly nonsense about you going to prison for six months if you mention Jesus. | ||
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Jesus Christ. | |
| Oh, shit! | ||
| They're out here! | ||
| We were recording remotely for the first time forever and now the cops are out here! | ||
| Cherries and berries. | ||
| Cherries and berries. | ||
| I said Jesus Christ! | ||
| So now, here's another prediction that Alex has about stuff that will happen. | ||
| From a law enforcement standpoint in the near future. | ||
| And pay attention to this. | ||
| Do you think this happened? | ||
| Is Alex correct? | ||
| My friends, what would you do if the federal government passed a law that at least one day a week you had to report to a local community service board part of the growing Soviet-style neighborhood watch? | ||
| And that you had to go help dig ditches, help with community projects, pick up trash, pull weeds, engage in checkpoints, help the police run checkpoints at random checkpoints on the side of the highway. | ||
| What would you do if they were trying to pass a law to do that? | ||
| Well, they are passing laws to do that. | ||
| They've built the infrastructure under AmeriCorps, now SecureCorps. | ||
| Which is a division of TIPS, which they increased the funding for. | ||
| TIPS was never canceled. | ||
| And to get out of high school, you'll have to serve several years as a tattletale, helping police serve warrants, building clearing, assisting checkpoints, fugitive apprehension. | ||
| Yeah, what? | ||
| Okay, so to get out of high school, you have to do a couple years of fugitive apprehension? | ||
| I'm sorry, what? | ||
| Yeah, we're getting our 15, 16-year-olds out there as bounty hunters. | ||
| Excuse me, sir. | ||
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I just want to let you know that you've been served. | |
| You're going to need to appear in court. | ||
| You're going to need to do that to graduate, right? | ||
| That's the premise. | ||
| What about to get a GED? | ||
| Couldn't you just drop out if you don't want to do that? | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| If you get a GED, you have to become a cop for five years. | ||
| They've got you coming and going. | ||
| You're a host. | ||
| Yeah, there's no escape. | ||
| So yeah, this was in 2003. | ||
| This is Alex's prediction of what's coming, and I think he was wrong. | ||
| I think basically... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know if it's a terrible idea. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I mean, I think it's probably a terrible idea to compel people to do stuff like that. | ||
| It's a terrible idea to outsource fugitive apprehension work to high schoolers. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| I meant it more. | ||
| When he started, he was like, oh, you know, you have to... | ||
| Pull dickweeds and all that stuff. | ||
| And then it elevated to serving warrants very quickly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe way too quickly. | ||
| Volunteerism and encouraging it within people in high school I don't think is bad. | ||
| When I was at the University of Missouri, I worked for a while at the Office of Service Learning. | ||
| And part of my job was to... | ||
| Look through the course catalog and try and find courses that naturally lent themselves to volunteer opportunities being incorporated into the curriculum. | ||
| Oh, that's really cool. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so that kind of stuff, I think, is very positive. | ||
| And I think Alex would interpret that as college students being forced to serve warrants or something. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Obviously. | ||
| Or like a neighborhood surveillance. | ||
| Like, you're always watching your people around you. | ||
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Snitch patrols. | |
| Yeah, snitch patrols. | ||
| I just thought that was pretty... | ||
| I mean, he can't, like... | ||
| I don't understand how anybody could take him seriously when he's talking about this. | ||
| Like, have you ever met a 15, 16-year-old? | ||
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Do you think you trust them to serve a warrant? | |
| Right. | ||
| I mean, listen. | ||
| Ultimately, that can be pretty dangerous. | ||
| It's not something you would have someone who can't drive do. | ||
| I feel... | ||
| Now, on the other hand, there are a lot of opportunities for ambush warrant issues if it's children that you're working... | ||
| You're not expecting children to serve you a warrant, right? | ||
| So you go up to a mall and you're like, oh, I'm going to enjoy this pretzel. | ||
| And a little 15-year-old walks up to you and is like, excuse me, sir, do you know which way the store is for Kohl's? | ||
| I need to buy a new t-shirt. | ||
| You've been served! | ||
| That's the way you do it. | ||
| I think if you're talking about a summons to appear or something, If you're talking about violent criminals or like, Alex is saying fugitive apprehension, that implies somebody who's on the run. | ||
| You don't want to ambush that kind of person if you're a child. | ||
| All right, we're going to take this 15-year-old to Venezuela to catch the top nine most wanted FBI criminal because otherwise he won't graduate. | ||
| In order to get into college, you need extracurriculars. | ||
| And some people can do debate club. | ||
| Some people might get into sports. | ||
| But, you know, if you can't make the team, maybe you got to be Dog the Bounty Hunter. | ||
| Maybe you bounty hunt for a little while. | ||
| I like Cowboy Bebop. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| So dumb. | ||
| So dumb, but great. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Yeah, that's pretty fucking great. | ||
| So one of the things you need to understand is that your mind has a lock on it, and there's a key, and it's in the shape of Alex. | ||
| Unlocking minds one mind at a time. | ||
| Go to Infowars.com or PrisonPlanet.com to order, or to get my book or Paul Watson's book, Order Out of Chaos, or the new video by Eric Huffschmidt, Painful Questions about 9-11. | ||
| This is important stuff. | ||
| The best stuff I've found out there that I've seen that I've read. | ||
| Yeah, the best stuff that he's found. | ||
| And just a note, Eric Huffschmidt's the anti-Semitic techno artist who is concerned about underwear and your balls. | ||
| So the best stuff. | ||
| That's what Alex is selling. | ||
| He's pushing that pretty hard. | ||
| He's making money for Huffschmidt. | ||
| This pair of underwear is... | ||
| Really, really good at supporting lefty. | ||
| But I'm telling you, the right side, disaster. | ||
| You're concerned with the left-right ball paradigm. | ||
| I am! | ||
| Because I know what's above the left-right ball paradigm. | ||
| This show might not work if I take cough syrup. | ||
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If I'm on DayQuil, this show might not work. | |
| We're a little bit giddy. | ||
| Perhaps. | ||
| But we have to enjoy a little bit of fun because ultimately I understand what's coming. | ||
| And I know that this next clip is a bit of a shocker. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| And so mic down for this, Jordan. | ||
| This is another call that Alex gets. | ||
| That blew me away. | ||
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Well, you know why they call the Klan the Invisible Empire? | |
| Why's that? | ||
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Because you don't ever see the ones that count. | |
| Like me and the rest of the guys around here. | ||
| So you're in the Ku Klux Klan? | ||
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Well, I mean, nobody knows it but me and the neighbor. | |
| And you think that the Ku Klux Klan is going to stop the government? | ||
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Well, it stopped it here. | |
| The thing is about it, see, everybody belongs to the Klan. | ||
| As soon as they challenge their righteous indignation, they get up on their horse and they ride. | ||
| And that's what's going to happen. | ||
| Okay, thanks for the call, Jacob. | ||
| I'm not against black people or Hispanics or any other race. | ||
| I am disgusted by the Black Panthers, the new leader, Khalid Muhammad, who says kill all white people. | ||
| And I've got him on video, folks, in a debate with Anthony Hiller saying we want to kill every white child, every white woman. | ||
| I've got him on video marching in Houston saying the same thing with loaded shotguns, which is their right to do. | ||
| They guaranteed arrest a bunch of white people doing that. | ||
| But, and then, and then whites see the racist blacks and then they go join the race groups and the, and the, and the Mexicans and Hispanics see the racist whites and they go and join the racist Mecha and La Raza. | ||
| And this is exactly what the government wants. | ||
| Normally, I think I would hear someone call into the show and claim to be in the Klan, and I wouldn't really believe it. | ||
| In this case, I buy it 100%. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| That guy is in the fucking clan. | ||
| That is a clansman if there's ever been one. | ||
| He sounds pretty sincere, and he sounds old enough to own a hood. | ||
| He's got 30 copies of Birth of a Nation that he hands out on Christmas. | ||
| He sounded pretty cryptic, too, which I feel lends to his credibility. | ||
| Well, he opened with a riddle! | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| The Klan loves riddles. | ||
| That's why everybody knows that. | ||
| Now, the reason this clip is important is that it really has echoes of how Alex dealt with Ye and Nick in the present day. | ||
| He has a caller who's admitted to being a proud Klan member, which is something Alex is supposedly against. | ||
| In the same way, he's supposedly against Hitler and the Nazis these days. | ||
| And yet, somehow Alex can't manage to make a clear, emphatic statement in opposition to these groups. | ||
| With Ye and Nick, he can't rebuke the Nazi and Hitler shit, choosing instead to pretend that the ADL is worse than Nick because of fake stories that he repeats over and over about how they think white people are inherently evil. | ||
| The only way to give voice to criticism of Ye and Nick's Nazi ideas is to condemn them along with the ADL and be very insistent that the ADL is worse. | ||
| And here, Alex can't just tell this caller that the clan is bad and he shouldn't be a member of it. | ||
| Instead, he rattles off a bizarre rationalization for why he assumes this guy joined the clan, which I don't think is too far off from what folks in the clan might say. | ||
| They also love to pretend that their racism is justified by imagining it only exists as a defense against other people being racist against them. | ||
| This is Alex giving the appearance of pushing back against this guy who's literally in the Klan while actually making excuses for him and making the act of joining a hate group a possibly unwise but morally neutral decision. | ||
| This is because Alex doesn't actually think being a member of a hate group is a bad thing. | ||
| He can't even get through this response to the caller without speculating how white people would be arrested for open carrying while black people get away with it, essentially justifying and signing off on the feelings of racial aggrievement that drive a lot of people toward these racist groups. | ||
| Here's an important thing to understand. | ||
| Even if a listener or this caller were to accept Alex's framing of things and concede at all, there's still no reason not to be a member of the Klan. | ||
| If and only if we're able to defeat the globalists, then these racist groups will stop being played against each other. | ||
| But until that happens, and even they understand that that's never going to happen, then these other racist groups will still exist. | ||
| The Klan members and Nazis believe that they are defensive organizations, so if those other groups still exist, their rationale for their racism remains entirely intact. | ||
| I understand that Alex doesn't show up to the studio knowing that he's going to be on the phone with a Klan member, but he definitely should have known it was a distinct possibility. | ||
| He knows who his audience is, and the fact that he doesn't have any stronger condemnation for the Klan than this is damning. | ||
| It's shockingly bad. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it should be more complicated, and yet somehow it's very simple. | ||
| If somebody calls and tells you that they are a Klan's member, and then you go, well, yeah, of course you are, but it's not your fault. | ||
| It's because black people are racist. | ||
| You're a bad person. | ||
| It's not what you would expect if you actually opposed the Klan. | ||
| Hey, listen. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| You're a Klan member. | ||
| Obviously, black people are racist. | ||
| That's why the Klan was invented before black people were allowed to vote. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| No, actually, they're the horrible. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| See, that can't happen. | ||
| That can't happen. | ||
| It's very strange. | ||
| Yeah, the thing about the Klan is that the Black Panther Party wants to kill all white people. | ||
| I'm sorry, what now? | ||
| Yeah, that's my real problem with it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| So Alex tries to follow this up by condemning the Klan. | ||
| A little late! | ||
| Quite late. | ||
| But one of the things that he seems to want to do is discuss it only in terms that have nothing to do with race. | ||
| My dad said, yeah, my mother would be a substitute teacher. | ||
| She even worked during the summer. | ||
| My grandmother was a school teacher. | ||
| She'd go do teaching for summer school, and he'd... | ||
| Have to hang around with her, walk down to the pool, and kids would come over to him and go, you Yankee, get out of here! | ||
| Of course, my family had Spanish land grants from 1830. | ||
| But that's my experience with the Ku Klux Klan, is that it's basically used to harass anybody in business they don't like. | ||
| Somebody from the next county or next town over isn't any good. | ||
| And I had family. | ||
| In Reconstruction, who had their hotel in Teague burned down, and on the gravestones, it says, murdered, killed by northern soldiers. | ||
| But again, you've got a lot of people there, who I would later ask around, who aren't even from Teague, Texas, but they come in, they show up, they start the Klan, they run around and use it for their own political control. | ||
| So that's my experience, my only experience, with the Ku Klux Klan. | ||
| Yeah, that's a little bit weird. | ||
| So, yeah, it's just a group that harasses business owners that they don't like, trying to get the northerners out of Teague, Texas. | ||
| My main problem with the Klan is they inconvenience a lot of people. | ||
| That's in general fashion, no one in specific. | ||
| And, I mean, they don't solve problems. | ||
| It's just a big problem, you know? | ||
| It's just no group in particular. | ||
| For the Klan. | ||
| Yeah, the Klan. | ||
| It's mostly just like a shakedown operation of businesses. | ||
| Hey, come on. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Sure, they started as one thing. | ||
| But, you know, like VW made engines for the Nazis. | ||
| You know, we can change to better people. | ||
| Yikes. | ||
| So Alex goes to commercial. | ||
| Get a little bit of a break after talking to a Klan. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Regroup. | ||
| And I heard this commercial, and I just thought it was, like, I'm gonna just play a couple seconds of it. | ||
| I thought this was, like, really fucking dumb. | ||
| Hey, folks, Alex Jones here, and I'm very excited to announce the release of my bombshell documentary film, 9-1-1 The Road to Tyranny on DVD. | ||
| That's right, folks, DVD. | ||
| That's right, folks, DVD. | ||
| It's so crass to me to hear, like, a 9-11 conspiracy documentary being sold with that, like, morning radio voice. | ||
| No! | ||
| That is coming up this Sunday. | ||
| Wait, I'm sorry. | ||
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Let me tell you about Building 7. Coming up right after the break. | |
| If I understand correctly, your documentary is proving that the United States government did a false flag onto its own country in order to start a war. | ||
| And the way you're selling it is with this boy. | ||
| Yeah, it's a little... | ||
| It feels unserious. | ||
| Maybe it undercuts the level of gravitas that your documentary might deserve. | ||
| Now, another point that I'd like to bring up here is that we've heard Alex claim that he was the number one voiceover guy in the world. | ||
| And criticizing Obama was like, oh, no, you can't get any jobs. | ||
| If that's what he's bringing to the table, I don't think he has a place in the market. | ||
| I don't think that's good voiceover work. | ||
| I mean, he's not going to be on a Geico commercial anytime soon with that kind of stuff. | ||
| He's not going to get his own recurring character there. | ||
| You know, though, they do have those Geico commercials that are, like, washed-up celebrities who are, like, in weird circumstances. | ||
| So give it ten years. | ||
| He might show up on a Geico commercial then. | ||
| Hey, he might reboot into the new Caveman Geico show starring Nick Kroll. | ||
| And then subtly try to sell his Caveman bone broth. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Going into business for himself during the middle of the season. | ||
| That's synergy. | ||
| That's synergy. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Two birds with one stone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Brilliant. | ||
| So Alex gets a call from a mason. | ||
| A lot of folks in groups calling today. | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| Did everybody join a group in 2003 that I didn't know about? | ||
| It was a group-heavy time. | ||
| And so this guy says that he's a master mason. | ||
| And Alex believes that that means that he's a 33rd degree mason. | ||
| And so Alex is talking about, hey man. | ||
| Tell me he just builds things. | ||
| Tell me he's just a person who builds houses. | ||
| You're not far off. | ||
| But before we get to the reveal, the prestige, Alex has to talk about stuff about how masons get away with murder. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And over in England, there's been a lot of mainstream news articles about how you can't get a consulting job. | ||
| You can't get a big government job. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| They get found not guilty, unless you're a Mason, or unless your barrister's a Mason. | ||
| And they found out that they're all scratching each other's backs. | ||
| It's like Italian mafia or something. | ||
| It's kind of a wasp mob, you could say. | ||
| And they team up with other Masons around the world. | ||
| It's a global thing. | ||
| My great-great-uncle told my father the story of when he was running bars during Prohibition. | ||
| In Houston, some guys tried to rob him. | ||
| He killed two of them. | ||
| Walked in, flashed the Mason in distress sign at the judge. | ||
| Instantly case dismissed. | ||
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So it's also basically a license to kill. | |
| Yeah, you got the Mason in distress sign. | ||
| Duble Kane. | ||
| Duble Kane. | ||
| Always works. | ||
| So, Alex is going off on this Grand Mason stuff, because he thinks he's got a high-level Mason on the phone, and they're going to be able to commiserate. | ||
| But also, the guy is saying, in addition to being a Mason, he's saying that he started listening to Alex's show, and it started to wake him up, and he's thinking maybe he's involved in an evil organization. | ||
| So, Alex is going to try and lay this track that this guy is then going to be able to sign off on as a high-level Mason. | ||
| Unfortunately, he's not. | ||
| Number one, Eric, you say you're practicing Master Mason. | ||
| Has anything I've said been inaccurate? | ||
| And then you say you're beginning to wake up to this and have questions. | ||
| You have the floor. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
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Oh, thanks, Alex. | |
| When I said Master Mason, I was talking about Blue Lodge. | ||
| I had just the third degree Master Mason degree. | ||
| I have not gone into the higher levels up to the 32nd, although I had many offers. | ||
| I was briefly involved with the Grotto. | ||
| I had offers to go into the Eastern Star, which is primarily sort of the women's arm of the Masons. | ||
| I was offered to go into Scott Wright, York Wright, and various other things. | ||
| But, you know, there's sort of a little voice gnawing at me, and I'm asking myself, okay, Eric, have you sort of been a useful idiot here in the trenches of this giant fraternity? | ||
| You know, I ask myself this question, have I sort of been a useful idiot, you know, practicing... | ||
| The tenets, I mean, the tenets that are preached in my lodge seem to be wonderful tenets. | ||
| But is it a veneer for something that's far deeper and far more dark? | ||
| Well, yeah, I mean, if you haven't even gotten into the Scottish Rite, and if you haven't got up into the higher degrees, by the way, there's 360 degrees. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, and humans can't go over about the 76. Duh. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the human level. | ||
| And there's Principality sitting at the other points of the compass with Lucifer at 360. | ||
| There's Azazel's Principality. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex realizes that this guy isn't very deep into the Masons and decides, like, I'm going to blow his mind. | ||
| There's 360 degrees. | ||
| No, man. | ||
| You just hang out with your buds. | ||
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You're a level 50, dude. | |
| I can make up whatever I want. | ||
| No, right? | ||
| That's the fun thing about him only being level three is like he doesn't know and he already believes it could be anything. | ||
| Yeah, and he's already suspicious of it and like coming around to thinking like, hey, maybe Alex is on to something. | ||
| Oh, hey, guess what? | ||
| Level 77, that's where the demons start. | ||
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Here's the problem. | |
| What organization invents 360 degrees for anything? | ||
| That's too many degrees. | ||
| It's way too many. | ||
| If you're going to complain about a generation growing up with too many participation trophies, if the Masons give out a degree for everything you do, oh, this guy poured me a drink. | ||
| He's 38th degree now! | ||
| Well, and you've got to think, like, imagine the bureaucracy. | ||
| Like, imagine the micromanagement and, like, if you have 360 degrees that you have to, and, like, a good 290 of them are not for humans. | ||
| Complete demons. | ||
| Complete demons, right? | ||
| What are they up to? | ||
| Are they the ones deciding if you get that high? | ||
| This org chart is a mess. | ||
| Yeah, I wouldn't mess with it. | ||
| This raises a few important questions, and that is... | ||
| Do the demons start at level 77? | ||
| Or do they have to be level 1, 2, 3? | ||
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Do you recruit a demon to the masons? | |
| If you're level 1 human, are you in the same level 1 class as maybe a couple of demons in there? | ||
| You've got 6 humans and then there's 2 or 3 demons right with you. | ||
| You'd be jealous because you're like, oh, those motherfuckers can get past 77. I've got to stop. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's unfair. | ||
| Or is the right from going level 76 to 77 murder? | ||
| You have to kill yourself. | ||
| Do you become a demon? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Is it a transformative right into the 77th degree? | ||
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That's a good question. | |
| These questions are unanswered because Alex is making this shit up. | ||
| That could be one reason. | ||
| That could be one reason. | ||
| I do love it when Alex is like, I'm going to get backup from this guy. | ||
| I got a caller on the line. | ||
| It's going to be great. | ||
| And then he realizes, I can just make up whatever I want. | ||
| This person doesn't. | ||
| They don't know shit. | ||
| There is a moment of freedom there, though. | ||
| There is a moment of freedom that I did definitely hear whenever the guy was like, oh, I'm only a third degree, and I was offered the other thing. | ||
| Alex was chomping at it, just like, oh, I could say anything right now. | ||
| It's a sort of freedom mixed with disappointment, because if the guy was somewhere in higher levels or was willing to pretend to be, and he was going to sign off on Alex's, like, yeah, you can just say Mason in distress. | ||
| Or whatever. | ||
| That would give him so much credibility to this bullshit. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Oh, man. | ||
| Imagine if the tables were turned and this guy was like, no, no, no, no. | ||
| I'm at the 77th level. | ||
| Here's the problem. | ||
| Humans can't get past that. | ||
| That would freak Alex out beyond all reason. | ||
| Well, I'm going to guess at that point he would shift the story somehow. | ||
| Yeah, naturally. | ||
| Demons can't use phones. | ||
| That is a rule, though. | ||
| I cannot do that voice right now. | ||
| That is a disaster. | ||
| Oh, you're under the weather. | ||
| We got somebody on the injured report. | ||
| He's questionable for today. | ||
| So, Alex gets another caller, and this guy has an interesting question about Planet X. Let's go ahead and talk to Brock in British Columbia. | ||
| Go ahead, sir. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Good to talk to you, Brock. | ||
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I wanted to ask you about Planet X, and is it for real? | |
| What is it? | ||
| And I also wanted to ask, in a nutshell, if you could, who killed John F. Kennedy? | ||
| Okay, Brock, let me answer those questions. | ||
| Thanks for the call. | ||
| Two big ones. | ||
| Two big ones. | ||
| Two big ones at the same time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's ambitious. | ||
| Hey, what about this other planet that's secretly there? | ||
| And while you're at it, JFK, nutshell it for me. | ||
| While I'm here. | ||
| I mean, if I've got the chance, maybe you don't answer, maybe you do. | ||
| But while I'm here, I might as well throw the question out there. | ||
| Asking Alex about JFK who did it, that's an impulse. | ||
| Impulse buy. | ||
| It's like picking up some gum. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| So here's Alex's take on Planet X. If you've been listening to the show for a long period of time, you know that I said three years ago, four years ago, that Planet X was a complete fraud. | ||
| I mean, when it comes from Zacharias Sitchin, the little New Age propagandist funded by the Rockefeller Brothers Foundation. | ||
| And he goes and interprets these Sumerian texts, and it's been proven that he interpreted them wrong, and there's this tenth planet that's going to swing around. | ||
| He didn't speak Sumerian, which was an issue. | ||
| Every, you know, 3,600 years and kill us. | ||
| Cause earthquakes and titanic floods and all the rest of this. | ||
| And everybody got on the air, not everybody, but a lot of people, and picked up on this and said, oh, it's the end of the world, it's going to hit us. | ||
| It's supposed to kill us. | ||
| Last summer. | ||
| And then, strangely enough, you noticed that Mars got closer to the Earth than it had been in hundreds of thousands of years. | ||
| And, in fact, it got half as close than from what it normally is. | ||
| It covered half the distance from its normal orbit around the Earth. | ||
| Stop. | ||
| And a lot of researchers, like Tex Mars and others, had looked at this and said that the Planet X phenomenon is a coming of the occult. | ||
| And so this was all a double meaning for the occultist in high places. | ||
| Yeah, so you understand? | ||
| Alright, I can't follow that whatsoever. | ||
| One, it's a hoax, and two, it's also closer than they expected it to be? | ||
| It's both of those things? | ||
| Well, but it's not the tenth planet, it's Mars, or something, and it's really a metaphor for the occult rising. | ||
| Also, Tex Mars is apparently an astrologist, along with his anti-Semitic religious Christian identity preaching and... | ||
| He seems to know everything about everything, which is a hallmark of a cool person. | ||
| His name is Tex Mars, so I think he does know everything about both technology and Mars. | ||
| That makes perfect sense to me. | ||
| Well, it's T-E-X-E and M-A-R-R-S, so it is neither. | ||
| Well, that's clearly to throw us off the trail. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| So yeah, the Planet X was bullshit that was made up by Zachariah Sitchin because he was funded by the Rockefellers, which is not... | ||
| I mean, Alex is going to need to substantiate that somehow. | ||
| Somehow. | ||
| But he's been writing about this shit since 1976. | ||
| Like, I think that's when The Twelfth Planet first came out, his book that began that series. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that was based on, like, Eric Von Daniken shit. | ||
| So, like, you know, the Chariots of the Gods is intermixed in with this, and that was, like, in the 60s. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know how all of that is supposed to be, like, a predictor of the rise of the occult in 2003 that didn't seem to do anything. | ||
| I think what it is is the ambition of naming your book The Twelfth Planet. | ||
| Because that skips over both the 10th and the 11th. | ||
| We're just assuming already that you know about those two secret planets, right? | ||
| That's what sticks with you. | ||
| A guy with ambition bigger than the stars, if you will. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I'm not proud to admit this. | ||
| I have read the 12th planet. | ||
| What were the 10th and 11th planets? | ||
| Does he explain? | ||
| I wish I remembered. | ||
| It is not something that has stuck out in my mind as like a... | ||
| I think Tiamat is one of them, I think. | ||
| Always bad when you name something Tiamat. | ||
| That's a sign that you're not really paying that much attention. | ||
| I'm trying to look this up here. | ||
| See if they can give me a breakdown of what these planets are. | ||
| Well, there's like... | ||
| Okay, so there's Nibiru, right? | ||
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| And then it hit Tiamat, and then Tiamat... | ||
| Broke. | ||
| I don't fucking remember. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| I'm just worried about how the acronym is going to work. | ||
| Or the mnemonic device. | ||
| You know, like, my very earthly mother, and then I don't know what happens after Pluto. | ||
| You know, it could be anything back there. | ||
| Sure, or you might have to interject it into the, because it might be closer at times. | ||
| Oh, here's another thing. | ||
| In the meantime, since he wrote that book, Pluto, no longer a planet. | ||
| True. | ||
| So now it's the 11th planet. | ||
| Unless he's also found another one. | ||
| Ooh, I hadn't considered that. | ||
| You never know. | ||
| So, yeah, Alex was cool. | ||
| Like, he knew that this was bullshit. | ||
| He wasn't going in with the end-of-the-world claims or anything. | ||
| I predicted three, four years ago that when it didn't hit us, the scammers would then say, or the useful idiots would then say, oh, Planet X was on the Gregorian calendar. | ||
| It was off three years. | ||
| So it's really coming in three years now. | ||
| And it's like clockwork. | ||
| They said, oh, it's the Gregorian calendar. | ||
| We were wrong. | ||
| Now it's going to be coming in two years, three years from now. | ||
| So they can keep selling their books and videos, and that is exactly what they did. | ||
| It wasn't a hard guess. | ||
| These scam preachers that say the end of the world is next year, give me all your money. | ||
| Every time the end of the world didn't come, you know, in 1987 or whatever, like they'd said, they would then say, oh, it's the Gregorian calendar, it's in three years, and then start the whole process over again. | ||
| See, that was easy for Alex to call out because that's what he does, too. | ||
| I was going to say, like, oh, it's almost like somebody predicting a financial collapse or perhaps a summer of rage every single year or month. | ||
| Right, we just had our calculations a little bit. | ||
| Oh, the Fed did something to stop the summer of rage from happening, but you still should buy all our gold and stuff. | ||
| Weren't we about to lose all diesel fuel in the United States like two weeks ago? | ||
| Dude, we're on three weeks with no diesel. | ||
| I was gonna say, it's been a while since we've lost all of the diesel fuel and all the trucks have fallen apart. | ||
| But even, like, take the other stuff, like the globalists are about to make their move, they've made their move, you know, like the FEMA camps are coming, it's right around the corner. | ||
| He does this all the fucking time, and his audience just has, I don't know why, but unlimited tolerance for just being like, oh, yeah, you managed to stop it, or something. | ||
| I find it disrespectful to point out the scam you're doing and blame other people in the same way that all psychics and mediums are always like, listen, I get it. | ||
| You think that psychics and mediums are bullshit because the other ones are, but I'm the real one. | ||
| You know, that kind of thing where it's like, if everybody else is bullshit, so are you. | ||
| Well, it's a little bit disrespectful, but on another level, it also kind of seems to indicate a little bit that maybe Alex's perception of himself is that he is not that, which is sad. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| If that's the case, that is a bummer, but could be. | ||
| So we have one last clip here, and it's Alex responding to this guy's second question, which is the JFK question. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And this... | ||
| Kind of bummed me out, because I know in our last 2003 episode, we had a little conversation about the admitted widow, the Lady Bird Johnson being on InfoWars. | ||
| Lady Bird Johnson, admitted widow. | ||
| Admitted! | ||
| Alex actually moves the goalposts a little bit here on this episode. | ||
| The large banks that own the military-industrial complex ordered Texas hitmen and others under CIA control. | ||
| And we've had the witnesses and the people that were there, and LBJ's lawyer and his mistress on the show, and it's all admitted now that they did the planning and execution, but the big bankers pulled the lever, ordered the hit, because Kennedy wanted to get us out of the Federal Reserve. | ||
| He wanted to stop letting corporations be international and leave the U.S. I feel like Smedley Butler is involved in this one. | ||
| He was getting us out of Vietnam. | ||
| He cut taxes by 50%. | ||
| They were not happy with him. | ||
| I'm sorry, what did he say? | ||
| Let's talk to John in North Carolina. | ||
| That's quite a number of reasons, apparently, why JFK was killed by the bankers. | ||
| Yeah, I've said it before. | ||
| It's shocking that more people didn't kill JFK, considering there were so many reasons to do it. | ||
| It was like murder on the Orient Express. | ||
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Yeah, everybody had a reason. | |
| Poirot could have gotten to the bottom of this. | ||
| So just like that, we go from an admitted widow to LBJ's mistress. | ||
| Seems like Alex doesn't really sweat the small stuff, like talking accurately and saying true things. | ||
| Details are tough. | ||
| Alex is referring to Madeline Brown, a woman who has been widely discredited by people who have looked into her claims. | ||
| She alleged that she was at a party in Dallas the night before the assassination with folks including, but not limited to, LBJ, Nixon, and J. Edgar Hoover, but... | ||
| Concrete evidence puts all of these people, except Nixon, outside of Dallas that entire night. | ||
| They could not have been there, and Nixon's whereabouts were accounted for in Dallas. | ||
| I was going to say, if you've got those guys in the same room in Dallas, that's the room I'm assassinating, not the president's room. | ||
| The meeting is essentially impossible to have happened, which is where the threat to kill JFK was said to have happened, and you can kind of see how this pokes a gigantic hole in her story, because it's impossible. | ||
| Then the other. | ||
| That's how that statement works. | ||
| Subsequent investigation of her past has shown that she's a bit of a fraud person, having been convicted of forging the will of an elderly relative in 1988 who had recently died. | ||
| She's kind of like a JFK-era Larry Nichols type, so it makes sense that she and Alex would get together and stir up some bullshit together. | ||
| But that's the admitted widow. | ||
| That sucks. | ||
| I guess it would suck more if Lady Bird had been on InfoWars. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That would be surreal. | ||
| That would be an unusual... | ||
| Then we'd be in Mandela-effect territory if Lady Bird was actually there. | ||
| She was an InfoWarrior. | ||
| This was the one thing that sneaked through to the other side, this one sign that things have changed. | ||
| I would imagine if Lady Bird had been on, Alex would not stop talking about it, even to the present. | ||
| So that should have... | ||
| It wouldn't have been a clue for us that that did not happen. | ||
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You're right. | |
| You're right. | ||
| That one does make sense. | ||
| God, what would that be like if a sitting, like, even, I mean, even if fucking Trump wouldn't show up. | ||
| No, no, no, it wouldn't have been a sitting. | ||
| Alex wasn't broadcasting back then. | ||
| No, in my head, I'm thinking, like, what vice president, or no, like, what first lady going on what show would be as insane as Lady Bird showing up on fucking InfoWars? | ||
| No, she hurt Nancy Reagan showing up anywhere would be fine. | ||
| That lady was nuts. | ||
| Come on, Hillary, baby. | ||
| Tipper. | ||
| Tipper going on... | ||
| What? | ||
| Howard Stern. | ||
| Tipper going on Stern might be as crazy as that. | ||
| If Uncle Luke, Luke Skywalker from Two Live Crew had a podcast and Tipper Gore showed up on it. | ||
| I would, one, listen to the hell out of that. | ||
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And two, yes, I would lose my shit. | |
| Yeah, that would be Luke Skywalker. | ||
| Well, he can't call himself that anymore. | ||
| He got sued. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, on account of there's a very famous name. | ||
| Yeah, trademark. | ||
| So, yeah, we come to the end of this 2003 episode and a lot of calls. | ||
| Some shady shit. | ||
| Clan member goes essentially unrebuked. | ||
| Caller believes Chuck Norris can't talk about the baby Jesus because of the Jewish influence in the media. | ||
| Here's my feeling on how the calls went on that. | ||
| Once the guy opened with Chuck Norris can't say things because of the Jewish media, the Klan guy was like, well, obviously I'm going to call later. | ||
| And then once the Klan guy called, the Mason guy was like, well, the Masons have to be representative. | ||
| The Klan's going to show up on this thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think it's a regular old cascade of cause and effect. | ||
| It's a domino of group members needing representation. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And, you know, I'm just sad that he didn't have a fourth hour back at this point, because that was when the Illuminati would have called in, and then a globalist. | ||
| And then a 233rd degree mason, demon. | ||
| I mean, maybe just the Daughters of the American Revolution would have been a good way to go next. | ||
| You know, ease into the next one before you get to the Illuminati. | ||
| No, we gotta go with the Council of Twelve that Bill Gates is a member of. | ||
| Oh, the Council of Twelve. | ||
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That's right. | |
| Until he was a middleman for them. | ||
| Yeah, we gotta go. | ||
| We gotta escalate this hard. | ||
| That's a fair point. | ||
| We have to go to, like, super elite organizations that maybe don't exist and are very mysterious. | ||
| Here's the ultimate terror I have with your witchcraft, is that... | ||
| Based upon the level of magic that you have displayed so far, I'm terrified that you're going to alter the universe in such a way that the next 2003 episode we did, he has a literal interview with the devil. | ||
| Like, ah, well, surprise! | ||
| He's been bitching about this guy in the present? | ||
| Guess who shows up in the past? | ||
| Or the devil calls in. | ||
| There's a first-time caller. | ||
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Big fan. | |
| I got this disease coming up in 20 years, and you are the spokesman for it, my friend. | ||
| Hey, Alex, I saw you at Bohemian Grove, man. | ||
| Why didn't you say hi? | ||
| I was wearing the owl costume, dude! | ||
| I was wearing the owl costume! | ||
| Come on, man! | ||
| Well, let's hope it doesn't come to that, but if it does, I'll be prepared. | ||
| So anyway, we come to the end of this, but we'll be back with another episode shortly. | ||
| But until then, we have a website. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Or else on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX. | ||
| Clark, I am the vice count of Dayquil. | ||
| What? | ||
| Viscount. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |
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