Knowledge Fight #758 dissects Alex Jones’ 2003 claims: the Supreme Court "erasing" the Second Amendment (debunked via Prince v. U.S. and Nordyke v. King), Planet X as a Rockefeller-funded hoax or occult metaphor, and JFK’s assassination tied to "Madeline Brown," a convicted forger. Jones rationalizes KKK bigotry as a reactionary force and fabricates demonic Freemasonry lore, while callers escalate fringe theories—from Masons to "Lucifer-aligned" degrees. The hosts mock his shifting timelines, moral equivalencies, and reliance on discredited sources, exposing how conspiracy rhetoric distorts truth and fuels extremism. [Automatically generated summary]
And yet, we're still recording remotely because, you know, could be any number of different things as wiser now in this day and age to be smart about things like this, you know?
I hit the button and the blast doors came down to the studio and I'm locked in.
But my bright spot, actually, is that it happened before I fell ill, and that is that I was taking a couple bags of buttons, packages of buttons, to the mailbox down the street, because I can't just leave them in my apartment.
And he claims, I believe that this is actually probably true, he claims that he works with Chuck Norris, because Chuck Norris is like a deputized honorary police officer of some kind.
I was going back and listening to this, and right out of the gate, I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
Like, I know that...
I know that even in other periods of 2003 that we've gone back to, there have been undertones, and obviously there's some anti-Semitic conversation going on, and bigoted stuff of various stripes.
But going back and just being like, well, there's overt.
You know, there's a part of it that makes me think one of the reasons that we're kind of unused to it right now is because I guess 20 years ago, they just didn't feel the need to speak it out loud to each other because their anti-Semitism was never under threat.
You know, now that people are paying attention to it, then it's now it's time to start going absolutely crazy.
And he has been on other episodes in 2003, too, that I've been listening to, but he never mentions that he works for Midas Resources and that they sell gold.
He's not doing the second stage of the gold sale thing, but it is so obvious that he's selling gold.
And, you know, I said I'd check it during the break, and I didn't check it.
I was busy thumbing around through these articles trying to find that World at Daily and AP article about the judge down in South Texas saying that if people at their graduation ceremony say the word Jesus, they'll be given six months in jail.
Hey, George, will you check that for me?
Check the price of gold?
I wanted to check that, and it's my fault I forgot during the break.
Yeah, I mean, like, I guess yelling fire in a crowded building, if you lead to, like, people dying by, like, stampede, then maybe you could get a manslaughter charge or something.
Yeah, man, if you don't like our tendencies towards theocracy and you don't like our indoctrination of kids in public schools into Christianity, get the fuck out.
All I'm saying is that if there's a child from a different culture, they need to go to an American school, have that culture torn from their bodies, assimilate into whiteness and only white Christian theocracy, and then everything's going to be fine.
Yeah, so when we hear in the present day, you know, like Nick Fuentes coming in and talking a bit about, like, these tendencies towards Christian theocracy, Christian nationalism, it is not a foreign conversation to the mentality of a lot of Infowars listeners, even over, like, far earlier times.
Perhaps part of the reason that he's so willing to throw those bombs is because, you know, maybe 15 years ago it started becoming more important not to do those types of things.
And so the right-wing commentators took their anti-Semitism and the like into that coded language world.
And he wasn't alive for that.
He wasn't alive for the fallout from the first time everybody was like, what if we just hated Jews all the time?
Sure, and he's a kid, so you can always just point to this kid and be like, listen, I know you think you have had a brand new idea that no one's ever fucking thought of before, but I'm going to be honest with you, you have not.
So Alex's main story on this episode appears to be that the Supreme Court has decided that there is no Second Amendment, which, I mean, he reports pretty much three or four times a year.
Based on a different story of some sort, and it is never true.
Completely unrelated to this caller or clip, the day after this episode was recorded, the Supreme Court decided that the Potomac River was under Virginia's control.
Maryland wanted to be in charge of the river, but the court said no.
Alex is a really bad source of information because pretty much everything he's saying in that clip is incorrect.
He's telling this caller inaccurate information and then using that to construct false narratives about the reality that we all live in.
The 1997 Supreme Court case that Alex is talking about is Prince v.
United States, and it did not determine that the Brady Gunn bill was unconstitutional.
That bill had a provision that required gun background checks to be done for purchases, but on the federal level, that system was not prepared yet.
According to the bill, state law enforcement agencies were required to use their background check system to run this until such a time that the federal system was ready.
Prince v. United States ruled that this was unconstitutional to make state law enforcement carry out federal law enforcement activity.
The state law enforcement folks were required to be asked to do this, and if they wanted to opt out, they could.
That was the result of this ruling.
Ultimately, most states had no problem with the setup and continued to participate by their own consent, and the issue became moot once the federal background check system was operational.
Alex is lying about the Supreme Court decision to tell this caller that the government ruled that background checks for gun purchases was unconstitutional, but they didn't care.
They just ignore rulings that they don't like.
This is a dangerous message to be sending to an audience like Alex's because if the government doesn't even follow Supreme Court decisions, then isn't everything a farce?
There's literally no way the public can be involved in politics since the globalists just decide who's going to win elections and they can just...
whether or not to follow their own court's decisions.
This is not a state of affairs that anyone rational or sincere would be presenting as just the way things are.
This would be a message that implies a need for action, and all civic participatory government-related actions are clearly pointless based on his telling.
So in talking about these cases and court decisions, Alex never uses specifics, and that's for two reasons.
One, he probably doesn't know any of them, because he's lazy and he does zero show prep.
Two, it's not in his interest to be specific, because he's lying, and he doesn't want to make it easy for his audience to follow up his claims and realize that.
Because he's so unspecific, I'm left to assume that the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals case in San Francisco that he's referring to is Nordyke v.
King.
Since that was a decision that came down in 2003 and was not accepted by the Supreme Court.
That ruling has to do, it's not with banning guns or declaring that there's no Second Amendment.
It was a situation where a gun dealer sued Alameda County because the county had passed an ordinance banning possession of guns on county property.
This included the fairgrounds, which is where Nordyke, the gun dealer, held gun shows.
That ordinance was passed in 1999, and the reason was stated as being because there was a shooting that happened the previous 4th of July at the Alameda Fair.
There was believed to be a bit of a gang confrontation that resulted in 10 injuries, including an 8-year-old boy and two other minors.
This case about this ordinance is the closest thing I can find to what Alex is talking about, and it's nowhere close to reflecting any of his narratives.
I wonder if he gives some specifics about this story later in the episode.
He doesn't.
He doesn't.
You shouldn't be optimistic that that information is going to come.
It's just this ruling, and because the Supreme Court decided not to hear it, now the Second Amendment's gone.
No, no, no.
They just ruled that a county does have the ability to ban guns on county property.
If you think that the Supreme Court and, I mean, if you think that the government is just enforcing whatever rules it likes or not, then, I mean, there's the conclusion that, you know, there's no point in participating in democracy at all.
But I would also imagine that if you have guns and Alex is telling you that guns are banned in this country and nobody's coming to stop you, then your assumption would be that they just don't want to do it, right?
When your worldview and reality is largely based on creative writing prompts, it turns out you can just add new layers to things constantly to get you out of a jam.
I'm telling you, if the NRA and Shotgun News and others would tell the truth about these rulings and would stop pacifying gun owners, we'd get our Second Amendment back.
We'd be repealing the gun law next year, the assault weapons ban, instead of Bush expanding it.
But the average gun owner doesn't even know about this.
Because Rush Limbaugh and the NRA have done their job of keeping you in the dark.
As we saw in that last clip, it's Alex who's lying about these cases and rulings.
He's the one creating a false reality in order to scare his audience.
Alex needs to attack these more mainstream gun organizations because they don't live in his false reality.
The NRA can support gun rights all day long, but if they don't pretend this Supreme Court decision is the end of the Second Amendment, then according to Alex, they have to be liars and probably gun grabers in disguise.
This strategy has a couple of good effects from Alex's standpoint.
The first is that it makes anything the NRA does look less extreme and always not enough.
The audience will always demand that the gun rights organizations take a couple more steps than they should because they believe that they're responding to the fake stories Alex tells them.
The second effect is that the audience will push the NRA further towards living in Alex's false reality, or at least behaving as if that false reality were real in order to keep up with the base.
For any sense of this, consider that Ted Nugent was a fairly controversial person to associate with back at this point, and he's now a member of the NRA board.
Yeah, I mean, and at this point, you know, why aren't more people talking about it?
Well, most people don't own assault rifles.
I mean, an absurdly small number of people own assault rifles.
And the only people who are protecting them are people who are either overreacting because of a slippery slope argument or people who are, like, living in a...
A fucking bungalow in Brooklyn being like, I need a surface-to-air missile, otherwise I won't be safe.
My friends, what would you do if the federal government passed a law that at least one day a week you had to report to a local community service board part of the growing Soviet-style neighborhood watch?
And that you had to go help dig ditches, help with community projects, pick up trash, pull weeds, engage in checkpoints, help the police run checkpoints at random checkpoints on the side of the highway.
What would you do if they were trying to pass a law to do that?
Well, they are passing laws to do that.
They've built the infrastructure under AmeriCorps, now SecureCorps.
Which is a division of TIPS, which they increased the funding for.
TIPS was never canceled.
And to get out of high school, you'll have to serve several years as a tattletale, helping police serve warrants, building clearing, assisting checkpoints, fugitive apprehension.
Volunteerism and encouraging it within people in high school I don't think is bad.
When I was at the University of Missouri, I worked for a while at the Office of Service Learning.
And part of my job was to...
Look through the course catalog and try and find courses that naturally lent themselves to volunteer opportunities being incorporated into the curriculum.
I think if you're talking about a summons to appear or something, If you're talking about violent criminals or like, Alex is saying fugitive apprehension, that implies somebody who's on the run.
You don't want to ambush that kind of person if you're a child.
Go to Infowars.com or PrisonPlanet.com to order, or to get my book or Paul Watson's book, Order Out of Chaos, or the new video by Eric Huffschmidt, Painful Questions about 9-11.
This is important stuff.
The best stuff I've found out there that I've seen that I've read.
I'm not against black people or Hispanics or any other race.
I am disgusted by the Black Panthers, the new leader, Khalid Muhammad, who says kill all white people.
And I've got him on video, folks, in a debate with Anthony Hiller saying we want to kill every white child, every white woman.
I've got him on video marching in Houston saying the same thing with loaded shotguns, which is their right to do.
They guaranteed arrest a bunch of white people doing that.
But, and then, and then whites see the racist blacks and then they go join the race groups and the, and the, and the Mexicans and Hispanics see the racist whites and they go and join the racist Mecha and La Raza.
Now, the reason this clip is important is that it really has echoes of how Alex dealt with Ye and Nick in the present day.
He has a caller who's admitted to being a proud Klan member, which is something Alex is supposedly against.
In the same way, he's supposedly against Hitler and the Nazis these days.
And yet, somehow Alex can't manage to make a clear, emphatic statement in opposition to these groups.
With Ye and Nick, he can't rebuke the Nazi and Hitler shit, choosing instead to pretend that the ADL is worse than Nick because of fake stories that he repeats over and over about how they think white people are inherently evil.
The only way to give voice to criticism of Ye and Nick's Nazi ideas is to condemn them along with the ADL and be very insistent that the ADL is worse.
And here, Alex can't just tell this caller that the clan is bad and he shouldn't be a member of it.
Instead, he rattles off a bizarre rationalization for why he assumes this guy joined the clan, which I don't think is too far off from what folks in the clan might say.
They also love to pretend that their racism is justified by imagining it only exists as a defense against other people being racist against them.
This is Alex giving the appearance of pushing back against this guy who's literally in the Klan while actually making excuses for him and making the act of joining a hate group a possibly unwise but morally neutral decision.
This is because Alex doesn't actually think being a member of a hate group is a bad thing.
He can't even get through this response to the caller without speculating how white people would be arrested for open carrying while black people get away with it, essentially justifying and signing off on the feelings of racial aggrievement that drive a lot of people toward these racist groups.
Here's an important thing to understand.
Even if a listener or this caller were to accept Alex's framing of things and concede at all, there's still no reason not to be a member of the Klan.
If and only if we're able to defeat the globalists, then these racist groups will stop being played against each other.
But until that happens, and even they understand that that's never going to happen, then these other racist groups will still exist.
The Klan members and Nazis believe that they are defensive organizations, so if those other groups still exist, their rationale for their racism remains entirely intact.
I understand that Alex doesn't show up to the studio knowing that he's going to be on the phone with a Klan member, but he definitely should have known it was a distinct possibility.
He knows who his audience is, and the fact that he doesn't have any stronger condemnation for the Klan than this is damning.
My dad said, yeah, my mother would be a substitute teacher.
She even worked during the summer.
My grandmother was a school teacher.
She'd go do teaching for summer school, and he'd...
Have to hang around with her, walk down to the pool, and kids would come over to him and go, you Yankee, get out of here!
Of course, my family had Spanish land grants from 1830.
But that's my experience with the Ku Klux Klan, is that it's basically used to harass anybody in business they don't like.
Somebody from the next county or next town over isn't any good.
And I had family.
In Reconstruction, who had their hotel in Teague burned down, and on the gravestones, it says, murdered, killed by northern soldiers.
But again, you've got a lot of people there, who I would later ask around, who aren't even from Teague, Texas, but they come in, they show up, they start the Klan, they run around and use it for their own political control.
So that's my experience, my only experience, with the Ku Klux Klan.
If I understand correctly, your documentary is proving that the United States government did a false flag onto its own country in order to start a war.
So, Alex is going off on this Grand Mason stuff, because he thinks he's got a high-level Mason on the phone, and they're going to be able to commiserate.
But also, the guy is saying, in addition to being a Mason, he's saying that he started listening to Alex's show, and it started to wake him up, and he's thinking maybe he's involved in an evil organization.
So, Alex is going to try and lay this track that this guy is then going to be able to sign off on as a high-level Mason.
Number one, Eric, you say you're practicing Master Mason.
Has anything I've said been inaccurate?
And then you say you're beginning to wake up to this and have questions.
You have the floor.
Go ahead.
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Oh, thanks, Alex.
When I said Master Mason, I was talking about Blue Lodge.
I had just the third degree Master Mason degree.
I have not gone into the higher levels up to the 32nd, although I had many offers.
I was briefly involved with the Grotto.
I had offers to go into the Eastern Star, which is primarily sort of the women's arm of the Masons.
I was offered to go into Scott Wright, York Wright, and various other things.
But, you know, there's sort of a little voice gnawing at me, and I'm asking myself, okay, Eric, have you sort of been a useful idiot here in the trenches of this giant fraternity?
You know, I ask myself this question, have I sort of been a useful idiot, you know, practicing...
The tenets, I mean, the tenets that are preached in my lodge seem to be wonderful tenets.
But is it a veneer for something that's far deeper and far more dark?
Well, yeah, I mean, if you haven't even gotten into the Scottish Rite, and if you haven't got up into the higher degrees, by the way, there's 360 degrees.
What organization invents 360 degrees for anything?
That's too many degrees.
It's way too many.
If you're going to complain about a generation growing up with too many participation trophies, if the Masons give out a degree for everything you do, oh, this guy poured me a drink.
It's a sort of freedom mixed with disappointment, because if the guy was somewhere in higher levels or was willing to pretend to be, and he was going to sign off on Alex's, like, yeah, you can just say Mason in distress.
Or whatever.
That would give him so much credibility to this bullshit.
So here's Alex's take on Planet X. If you've been listening to the show for a long period of time, you know that I said three years ago, four years ago, that Planet X was a complete fraud.
I mean, when it comes from Zacharias Sitchin, the little New Age propagandist funded by the Rockefeller Brothers Foundation.
And he goes and interprets these Sumerian texts, and it's been proven that he interpreted them wrong, and there's this tenth planet that's going to swing around.
I predicted three, four years ago that when it didn't hit us, the scammers would then say, or the useful idiots would then say, oh, Planet X was on the Gregorian calendar.
It was off three years.
So it's really coming in three years now.
And it's like clockwork.
They said, oh, it's the Gregorian calendar.
We were wrong.
Now it's going to be coming in two years, three years from now.
So they can keep selling their books and videos, and that is exactly what they did.
It wasn't a hard guess.
These scam preachers that say the end of the world is next year, give me all your money.
Every time the end of the world didn't come, you know, in 1987 or whatever, like they'd said, they would then say, oh, it's the Gregorian calendar, it's in three years, and then start the whole process over again.
But even, like, take the other stuff, like the globalists are about to make their move, they've made their move, you know, like the FEMA camps are coming, it's right around the corner.
He does this all the fucking time, and his audience just has, I don't know why, but unlimited tolerance for just being like, oh, yeah, you managed to stop it, or something.
I find it disrespectful to point out the scam you're doing and blame other people in the same way that all psychics and mediums are always like, listen, I get it.
You think that psychics and mediums are bullshit because the other ones are, but I'm the real one.
You know, that kind of thing where it's like, if everybody else is bullshit, so are you.
Well, it's a little bit disrespectful, but on another level, it also kind of seems to indicate a little bit that maybe Alex's perception of himself is that he is not that, which is sad.
If that's the case, that is a bummer, but could be.
So we have one last clip here, and it's Alex responding to this guy's second question, which is the JFK question.
Of course.
And this...
Kind of bummed me out, because I know in our last 2003 episode, we had a little conversation about the admitted widow, the Lady Bird Johnson being on InfoWars.
The large banks that own the military-industrial complex ordered Texas hitmen and others under CIA control.
And we've had the witnesses and the people that were there, and LBJ's lawyer and his mistress on the show, and it's all admitted now that they did the planning and execution, but the big bankers pulled the lever, ordered the hit, because Kennedy wanted to get us out of the Federal Reserve.
He wanted to stop letting corporations be international and leave the U.S. I feel like Smedley Butler is involved in this one.
Alex is referring to Madeline Brown, a woman who has been widely discredited by people who have looked into her claims.
She alleged that she was at a party in Dallas the night before the assassination with folks including, but not limited to, LBJ, Nixon, and J. Edgar Hoover, but...
Concrete evidence puts all of these people, except Nixon, outside of Dallas that entire night.
They could not have been there, and Nixon's whereabouts were accounted for in Dallas.
The meeting is essentially impossible to have happened, which is where the threat to kill JFK was said to have happened, and you can kind of see how this pokes a gigantic hole in her story, because it's impossible.
Subsequent investigation of her past has shown that she's a bit of a fraud person, having been convicted of forging the will of an elderly relative in 1988 who had recently died.
She's kind of like a JFK-era Larry Nichols type, so it makes sense that she and Alex would get together and stir up some bullshit together.
But that's the admitted widow.
That sucks.
I guess it would suck more if Lady Bird had been on InfoWars.
No, in my head, I'm thinking, like, what vice president, or no, like, what first lady going on what show would be as insane as Lady Bird showing up on fucking InfoWars?
No, she hurt Nancy Reagan showing up anywhere would be fine.
And, you know, I'm just sad that he didn't have a fourth hour back at this point, because that was when the Illuminati would have called in, and then a globalist.
Here's the ultimate terror I have with your witchcraft, is that...
Based upon the level of magic that you have displayed so far, I'm terrified that you're going to alter the universe in such a way that the next 2003 episode we did, he has a literal interview with the devil.