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Nov. 7, 2022 - Knowledge Fight
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#744: November 3, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on how Alex is getting prepped for the midterms. In this installment, Alex continues to obsess about the Pelosi break-in, predicts false flags, and gets one of the best callers of all time.

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Main voices
a
alex jones
12:45
d
dan friesen
49:33
d
drew hernandez
05:27
j
jordan holmes
22:34
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j
joe biden
00:34
s
steve quayle
00:03
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alex jones
Knowledge Fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge Fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
alex jones
Knowledge Fight.
unidentified
I love your room.
KnowledgeFight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
Hey, everybody.
dan friesen
Welcome back to KnowledgeFight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
Or a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot, Jordan, is you've had a few video game bright spots.
I have not had that necessarily as of late.
And I gotta say, my bright spot's Persona 5 Royal.
I started playing it months back.
Months and months back.
I got distracted by something else and put it down.
But there was a bunch of news about it being released on the Switch.
And that made me remember that I had it already on the PS4.
And so I decided...
I'm gonna get back into this.
I'm gonna give it a shot.
See if I can get back into it.
Got back into it.
Quite hard.
Deep.
Deep getting back into it.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Deep into it.
dan friesen
It's a lot of fun.
jordan holmes
You're spelunking through Persona 5. Yeah.
dan friesen
It's a lot of fun.
It has a good sensibility.
Fun story.
Good mechanics.
I like it.
I'm enjoying it quite a bit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I watched it play a little bit.
It's very much up my alley.
I'm going to get to it.
dan friesen
I think so.
I think you'd enjoy it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
That's why I'm a little scared of it because I feel like I'm going to spend a lot of time in there.
dan friesen
You could.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's quite easy to.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
I am through two palaces at this point.
And it's just shocking.
Even having played a bit of it before, like I'd made it through a palace and a half the first time.
unidentified
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And even having played it, I'm still shocked how long it takes to get through these palaces.
It's wild.
But it is a lot of, it's a very charming game.
Nice!
I don't know.
unidentified
I like the artwork.
jordan holmes
The artwork is great.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The art is beautiful.
It's very fun to look at.
And if you enjoy it, there's also a Persona 5 sort of...
Slightly Warriors type game.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
It's not exactly like it, but there's a little bit of a...
jordan holmes
A little bit of a hack and slash kind of thing.
dan friesen
Sort of, yeah.
Yeah, a little bit of a merging of the two.
jordan holmes
I gotcha.
dan friesen
Anyway, what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot, Dan, is Weird, the Al Yankovic story.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
That looks so good.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
It is...
It is like, I've read some reviews about it that were really, really terrible.
Like, oh, these are whatever it was.
And it's like, I want there to be a disclaimer on the movie that says, sorry, everybody, specifically made for Jordan Holmes.
Like, you don't get to it.
This is exactly what I would want if I was told Al Yankovic made his own biopic.
This is what it is.
It's perfect.
dan friesen
I had heard that it was gonna happen.
I was really worried about it.
I was like, I don't...
I don't know about that.
When I saw the trailer, I was like, this looks so good.
jordan holmes
It's perfect.
It is so good.
dan friesen
It is so good.
I had not remembered that it was out, but yeah, I gotta check that out.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
So funny.
dan friesen
So good.
jordan holmes
Oh, so good.
dan friesen
Daniel Radcliffe killing it?
jordan holmes
I mean, it's hard.
I honestly say to you this.
He kills it.
He just does an absolutely amazing job doing the thing that he was told specifically to do, and he just nails it the whole way through.
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
And his abs are unreal.
dan friesen
Love it.
jordan holmes
Just like the Weird Al in real life.
dan friesen
Totally.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
One thing you know about Weird Al, swole.
jordan holmes
Washboard.
Yep.
dan friesen
So we have an episode to do, Jordan, but before we do that, I got to touch back on something.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
Well, I know that I have mentioned that Bray Wyatt is back.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And I was excited about it.
jordan holmes
You were.
What has happened?
The were is very hard now.
dan friesen
Well, I gotta just, because I know that we gotta stay honest with the audience.
I'm worried.
I'm a little bit worried.
jordan holmes
You're worried about it.
dan friesen
Well, there's this person in a mask.
Who keeps interrupting his promos with these videos?
And he's a guy named Uncle Howdy.
And I'm a little worried.
I'm a little...
unidentified
I...
dan friesen
It's...
unidentified
It's trouble.
dan friesen
I had such high hopes.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
His name's what now?
Say that one more time.
dan friesen
Uncle Howdy?
jordan holmes
Uncle Howdy!
dan friesen
I'm your Uncle Howdy.
Oh no.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
Is that what you're gonna sell me?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You're gonna sell me on Uncle Howdy?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And it's a threatening Uncle Howdy?
dan friesen
He knows secrets.
jordan holmes
Oh no.
No, no, no, no.
Uncle Howdy walks up and goes, Hi kids!
I'm gonna fight in the wrestling ring!
dan friesen
That's kind of, uh, you know.
Part and parcel of some of Bray's stuff.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
You know, like when he was the Fiend, he was also the guy doing a children's show.
jordan holmes
Naturally, naturally.
dan friesen
The Firefly Funhouse.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, children's shows can be uncanny because they are inherently absurd on account of the children's mind.
dan friesen
Right, but you're taking this children's show host and adding a menace to it.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
So Uncle Howdy being something that you add a menace to is not really unfamiliar territory.
jordan holmes
No.
I agree.
dan friesen
I'm still worried.
jordan holmes
Totally.
I'm just saying that if you're gonna do Uncle Howdy, and you're gonna elevate it into something that's legitimately scary, you give him the child- And cover him in blood.
That's the combination that you gotta go down if it's Uncle Howdy.
dan friesen
Maybe.
Maybe.
I don't know.
The thing that troubles me is that when Bray came back with the Firefly Funhouse, The Fiend was not introduced for quite a while.
It was just he's this goofy children's show host now.
And so I was a bit concerned about that as well.
I'm not sure that it really felt like, hey, this is a good idea.
jordan holmes
There were some moments.
dan friesen
Maybe.
We've already kind of done that.
jordan holmes
That's an issue.
dan friesen
And now I'm worried again.
I don't know.
It'll take an amazing swing to make me feel comfortable.
jordan holmes
I think you've summed up the WWE quite nicely with saying, we've done that before, and I'm worried again.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Oh, Uncle Howdy.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
unidentified
Oh, Uncle Howdy.
dan friesen
You know, sometimes you just gotta say, we'll see.
We'll see what happens.
jordan holmes
That's what somebody says before being eaten by a Tyrannosaurus Rex in Jurassic Park.
You know what?
Maybe it'll work out this time.
dan friesen
Uncle Howdy.
Anyway, Jordan, we have an episode to do.
We're going to be talking about November 3rd, 2022.
That was Thursday of last week.
And I don't know if it's just Uncle Howdy or something, but I forgot that the midterms were coming up.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
I'll tell you.
dan friesen
For a minute, I forgot.
And then I listened to Alex's show, and then I remembered.
Yeah, this show has a lot going on.
jordan holmes
Does it?
dan friesen
No.
unidentified
Nah.
dan friesen
He takes a lot of calls.
jordan holmes
Well, that's nice.
dan friesen
Yeah, that'll be fun.
unidentified
That's new.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a good ad.
dan friesen
So we'll get into that and we'll talk about it, but before we do, let's take a little moment to say howdy, uncle, to some of our- Oh, no.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
I gotta stop.
dan friesen
To some new wonks.
unidentified
Yay!
dan friesen
So first, I'll tell you, life ain't easy for a boy named Squatch.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Raymond Peter Inc.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Thank you!
Oh, this is some birthday messages that are months late.
jordan holmes
Right on time?
dan friesen
No.
Pretty sure they're right on time.
This person did send them in a timely fashion.
I blew it.
Anyway, Bianca Donk would like to say a happy birthday to Lego and Blissful Prick.
Happy birthday to y 'all.
You're now policy wonks.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Happy May birthday.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Next, huge craniac Andrew.
Thank you so much.
You're now policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, agitprop for Yif.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Rudy Goody Fresh and Fruity here, Rusty, just calling to discuss election fraud.
Give me a ring back when you can.
Thanks.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
And the Gribble Pibbles are the secret dynastic family behind the Council of Twelve.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
So, we're going to get down to business on this very dumb episode of Alex's show.
Very, very stupid.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But before we do, here is an out-of-context drop from one of Alex's callers.
unidentified
Hey, Jones.
I just wanted to make a quick point and share a battle roar with you, if I could, so you can make a commercial out of it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, what?
dan friesen
See, it's a battle roar, but it's for a commercial.
It's specifically for a commercial.
jordan holmes
Is he saying, Alex, I want to cut a promo for you?
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
No, not even a promo.
jordan holmes
No, just a battle roar.
Just in case you need to splice it in somewhere later.
dan friesen
It kind of takes away the sincerity of the battle roar if you're going into it.
You can use this for a commercial.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's kind of not good.
dan friesen
The other thing I like, though, is that callers are familiar enough to be like, Hey, what's up, Jones?
jordan holmes
Hey, buddy!
I'm going to do a yell at you, and then I know you'll put it into a commercial.
dan friesen
I'm going to yell so good you're going to make money off it.
jordan holmes
What a weird...
You know, like, there's a...
There's a lot to unpack if you get deep in there as to how can you possibly have created an audience that's like, you know what he needs?
Me to call in and yell at him for money.
dan friesen
You know what, though?
There's really not that much to unpack.
You just did it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's fair.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, there's a lot of news in the world.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
A lot of very important news.
Yep.
jordan holmes
Climate change.
dan friesen
But there's also one story that just will not go away.
unidentified
Oh.
alex jones
The Pelosi's don't want the footage from their surveillance cameras that the Congressional Capitol Police, where they've expanded offices around the country, turns out they've got HD video of all this, but they don't want the footage released, ladies and gentlemen.
They just don't want to talk about two men in their underwear with hammers in a bedroom.
It just gets crazier and crazier.
We're going to open the phones up throughout.
The broadcast today, all three hours.
dan friesen
You know who does want to talk about two guys with hammers in a bedroom?
jordan holmes
Boy, it sure seems like him.
alex jones
Wow.
jordan holmes
I did not know that the story wouldn't go away.
I feel like I stopped paying attention.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I felt like the story...
Fully went away.
jordan holmes
It was there, and then it was gone the way that it was meant to.
dan friesen
Our last episode, we were talking about his show on, like, Saturday and Sunday.
I'm like, wow, that's about the last we'll have to hear about the Pelosi shit.
Nope.
Still talking about it at the end of the week.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I'm sorry.
I have a limited amount of attention and sympathy for anybody with over $100 million.
I just kind of don't care.
dan friesen
I still have tremendous sympathy for somebody who is the victim of a home invasion.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And assault with a hammer.
Naturally.
Obviously.
But, you know, life does go well.
Sure does.
He's recovering.
He's in the hospital.
jordan holmes
He's got better insurance than we do.
dan friesen
The guy who did it got arrested.
He's in custody.
Sure.
I don't know how much we need to dwell on this too much.
It certainly may be something to consider about the vulnerability of politicians and people hoping to violently retribute upon them.
Certainly that's a conversation.
jordan holmes
Could be an issue.
dan friesen
But holy shit, this story is still relevant in the Info Wars.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Tip of the spear.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex wants to talk a tiny bit about his court cases, some issues.
He could have made them all go away, apparently.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, what?
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
You know, that's what the gun grabbers, the Democratic Party groups that sued me in these kangaroo courts, told me in mediation.
They said, we want you to come out against the Second Amendment, and we'll drop all this.
Oh, I can be sitting in your lap?
And then you'll be nice to me, you oily, gross lawyers?
I am happier and more alive than I've ever been being under savage attack by the scum of the earth.
dan friesen
So I reached out to Bill to get a comment about this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, how did he feel?
dan friesen
He said that he told Alex if he turned on the Second Amendment, they'd make it all go away.
unidentified
No way!
jordan holmes
Bill said that?
God damn it, Bill!
I told him.
dan friesen
I did not get a comment from him.
jordan holmes
As of press time?
dan friesen
He said they did not do this.
jordan holmes
They didn't do it?
Oh, damn.
Damn.
dan friesen
So, yeah, it seems incredibly unlikely that anybody is like, hey, listen up, Alex.
alex jones
You know what?
dan friesen
I bet maybe one of Alex's lawyers said that to him.
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
Yeah, if you just say that you don't like guns anymore, maybe they'll drop all this.
I could see that being a message that was conveyed from Alex's lawyer that never came from anywhere else.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
I mean, you know, in terms of jobs...
Normally, I think whenever I've lied to my bosses about something that's happened, I've felt bad about it and they might not believe me.
You know, those types of things.
I mean, if you're working for Alex Jones and you got your ass kicked in a law situation, you could just lie to him and he'll be like, that sounds more true than that we got our ass kicked for lying all the time.
dan friesen
How could we possibly?
jordan holmes
Yeah, obviously.
We're in the right, so clearly...
dan friesen
It must be some kind of a demonic conspiracy.
jordan holmes
You know what?
They sent me one of my own daughter's toes.
That's what happened, and that's why we lost.
dan friesen
I'm sorry.
Oh, my God, Norm, I'm so sorry to hear that.
jordan holmes
It was a bad deposition.
Now I've got my daughter's toe.
dan friesen
They sent me one of my ponytails.
So, look, we've got to talk about that Pelosi shit.
alex jones
We don't want that footage released.
They say it's a conspiracy theory.
We're not releasing why there were two naked men or men in underwear with hammers in a bedroom that Paul Pelosi said he knew and was a friend named David.
So here's Biden on the Paul Pelosi attack.
joe biden
He woke him up.
He wanted to tie him up.
The assailant ended up using a hammer to smash Paul's skull.
Thankfully, by the grace of God, Paul survived.
All this happened after the assault.
It's hard to even say.
It's hard to even say.
After the assailant entered the home asking, where's Nancy?
Where's Nancy?
Those are the very same words used by the mob when they stormed the United States Capitol on January the 6th.
alex jones
Release the footage!
All this is so scripted.
You'd have to be a moron not to see that.
I mean, I'd give it a 95% chance that they had that guy drugged up, didn't even know who he was.
Turns out he's part of a hallucinogenic cult.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
He's all connected to pedophilia.
His girlfriend's in prison for...
Pedophile behavior.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
Alex has downgraded this from a 99% chance conspiracy to a 95% chance, which would be relevant if the words he said had any meaning.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
He's just making up his conclusions and proclamations as he goes along, so he probably doesn't even realize that what he's saying is that it's become more likely that the Pelosi home invasion was a real event since the last time he put a number on it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But if you're paying attention to his show, that's what he's saying.
jordan holmes
You know, words have no meaning.
dan friesen
No.
David DePape wasn't part of a hallucinogenic cult any more than Joe Rogan is.
I would bet that he did do some drugs during his time living with some San Francisco nudists, but that's a bit of a distance from a hallucinogen cult, unless you're a member of Alex's audience.
Then you'll actually believe that cities are burning and demons walk the streets of every urban center cackling and threatening any conservative who dares show their face.
That audience might be naive enough to buy that shit, but...
It's a small select group.
jordan holmes
Yeah, also in my experience, I mean, I gotta say, a hallucinogenic cult is usually pretty chill.
It's the cults that are organized around money or power, all those things.
That's going to fuck you up.
Hallucinogenic cults, what happens?
dan friesen
Some people take a hard turn on hallucinogens.
jordan holmes
Wow, there's that.
I'm not saying that's not the case.
dan friesen
That does exist.
jordan holmes
True, true.
dan friesen
So Alex mentions DePape's girlfriend there, which is a reference to the high-profile nudism activist in San Francisco, Gypsy Taub.
Is that okay?
Probably not.
It should be pointed out that she wasn't a nudist activist in the 70s, which is kind of where your mind goes.
It's closer to the 90s and early 2000s.
She was a local character and actually has a ton in common with Alex.
For instance, she was a huge 9-11 truther.
She even had a public access show about 9-11 called Uncensored 9-11, which eventually became a show called My Naked Truth, where she would host a talk show naked.
I guess Alex didn't do his show naked, but he got his start in public access and he was super into 9-11 conspiracies, so him and Tob would probably have a lot to bond over.
You may notice that Alex says that she's in jail for...
Quote, pedophile behavior.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's...
dan friesen
Typically, this would be Alex using suggestive language to implant ideas in his audience's head.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
In this case, however, he just doesn't actually know any of the details of the case, but he feels like he heard something that was like, ah, maybe it's pedophilic, but he wants to keep it vague just in case he needs to change things up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he doesn't want to get a lawsuit or nothing.
dan friesen
Tob is in jail for stalking and harassing a former friend of her son's, who she sent messages expressing her love for, and who she made actions towards attempting to kidnap.
He was in the ninth grade at the time, and her actions are reprehensible.
jordan holmes
Wow!
dan friesen
There's no indication that DePape had any involvement with that stuff, though, because he and Tob split in 2015, and she has said that even at that point, he was less a romantic partner and more of a roommate and someone who took care of the kids, who may be his kids as well.
It's reported that he's the father of her children, but this whole thing is chaotic and I have no idea what's what.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Taub married a 20-year-old named James Smith in 2013, and DePape and her lost contact a little bit after that point.
She told the San Francisco Chronicle that she assumed he'd, quote, completely lost his mind after that point.
Taub does make some interesting points, inasmuch as she felt that DePape wasn't really a Trump guy or a right-winger, which might seem true to her on the surface.
The nature of this conspiracy world that's so prominent now involves a denial about the actual political underpinning of the conspiracy beliefs that you hold.
You may think that you're just opposed to the deep state cabal or something and have no connection at all to the ways that the conspiracy belief is used to invalidate and attack any kind of federal bureaucracy, let's say.
In your mind, you're against demons who drink children's blood, but the real-world implications of your belief serves only explicitly right-wing political goals.
You might notice that no one arrives at left-leaning politics by obsessing about Soros or Klaus Schwab, and there's a reason for that.
It's a dynamic that's built in.
You're not supposed to realize how all this conspiracy is geared towards funneling you towards an extreme right-wing political set that you don't identify as extreme right.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, because people don't talk about it in its totality for the most part, people aren't saying, once these far-right billionaires and such get into power, they slowly or quickly erode all of the safe...
Right.
dan friesen
Or think about this.
jordan holmes
And then you, as a conspiracy person, are like, society's falling apart.
Well, yes, because the people that you are accidentally supporting maintain their power.
And as you give them more power, they make society crumble more.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
You get more invested in your bullshit, and it's a nasty circle.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or think about this kind of dynamic.
You have this complete opposition to deep state bureaucracy and what have you.
And, like, you know, where the rubber meets the road in reality is like, oh, okay, you know, end up getting a bunch of Republicans in office.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And they want to get rid of Social Security.
What is that, if not emblematic of deep state bureaucracy and there's so much...
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Like, you know, that is where the, like...
Conservative and right-wing politics are the end result of the obsession that they've gotten you to think isn't political.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
And the circumstances being, because of what they do, it reinforces your distrust of them.
Except for not them, because they're the ones you trust, because they blame the other people.
dan friesen
Until you're told to label them a rhino or something, and then you're too late.
Anyway, Taub is clearly unwell, as is DePape, but they currently aren't a couple and haven't been even in touch for about seven years.
She was charged in 2019, so there's no connection between DePape and her crimes and no evidence that she was running a hallucinogen cult.
This is just all like Alex talking shit because it's easier than focusing on anything of substance in the run up to the midterms.
And why not?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know, but that's a really interesting story.
I would want to know more about that whole circumstance.
What do you mean?
You know, I mean...
dan friesen
What do you want to know?
jordan holmes
They undercut it, you know?
Instead of this dude shows up with a hammer, now it's two naked dudes hammer fucking, you know?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
But with hammers, like literal hammers.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And then instead of, you know, this person with a rich, insane history...
We're just gonna be like, oh, pedophile behavior or whatever it is.
Like, no, man!
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it does show a profound lack of curiosity on Alex's part.
unidentified
Yeah!
jordan holmes
That sucks!
dan friesen
That sucks!
jordan holmes
This is way more interesting than...
Anything else he talks about, if you talk about it right.
dan friesen
What's interesting, too, is that Alex could probably cast a lot more suspicion on the story if he knew details.
He could do a better job of conspiracy theorizing if he actually cared to do his job.
jordan holmes
Right.
It's one of the few times where if he were curious, it would help him.
dan friesen
So, Alex makes an announcement, and, like, I mean, we're recording this on Sunday, and I might have a really bad week ahead of me, because he's tempting me to get back on my bullshit a little bit.
jordan holmes
No, Dan.
alex jones
I just want to take a ton of calls, five days out from the midterms.
unidentified
Oh, fuck off.
alex jones
We're going to be here next Tuesday, right through to probably two in the morning, but they admit they're going to try to steal the battleground states, so we're going to be here Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
jordan holmes
No.
alex jones
Right through with what's happening.
jordan holmes
No.
alex jones
I got to tell you.
All this talk about violence and imminent Republican violence and Republicans are going to pull something big, that signals major false flag or provocateur operations, which is a big staple that governments use all over the place.
They try to demonize me for popularizing the term false flag, but now the State Department has press conferences about Russia, they claim, is staging false flags.
dan friesen
No one cares about popularizing the term false flag.
They just care that you...
Say everything as a false flag with no evidence and it's just meaningless to you.
And you just...
Yeah, whatever.
But look, man.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
How do I resist?
jordan holmes
You have to.
unidentified
Why?
jordan holmes
It's so easy.
unidentified
Why?
jordan holmes
It's so easy.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's not going to follow through with it.
dan friesen
Probably not.
And it'll just be his junior varsity squad.
unidentified
Exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah, I know.
jordan holmes
He's not going to be there.
You're just listening to him say, I'm going to force my employees work till 2 a.m.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And I'm going to go to bed.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I know.
But it's so tempting.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
The only thing that's stopping me from actually doing it is that there's no...
Nothing less compelling than watching me watch Infowars.
unidentified
True.
dan friesen
So I can't really do it as a stream.
There's no real point to do that.
jordan holmes
No, it'd just be small facial changes.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Harumph.
Exactly.
It's not good content.
Otherwise, I probably would do it.
I would probably stream myself responding to Alex's...
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, if you reacting was good content, I'd be out of a job, Dan.
dan friesen
That's a good point, yeah.
I mean, not a good laugher, not a good responder.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
See, I'm probably not going to do it, but man, I was feeling tempted.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex has some thoughts about the...
Some ideas of...
I don't remember who it was.
It wasn't Biden, but there was another clip that he plays where his sort of crazy world, his political fringe guys, are labeled the minority.
They're a minority group of people who have this ideology.
He does not like this.
And so he starts ranting about how they've almost taken over the GOP.
And I think he's selling himself short.
I think they've completed that takeover.
alex jones
You go to any Republican event or any rally or look at any statistic or number, 80% of Republicans are now populist anti-New World Order folks.
And the globalists give InfoWars and our audience the credit that we helped wake people up.
They call it radicalization.
Trump then energized it and took it to the next level.
Whether you like Trump or not, he did a great job at energizing it.
And now we've almost taken...
The Republican Party over.
And the power structure is in abject, total, complete panic about it.
So we're not the minority.
We're the diverse majority of Republican voters, upwards of 80%, even in studies.
jordan holmes
Diverse how?
alex jones
Are identifying with Trump.
jordan holmes
Both white men and women.
alex jones
That's why they panic in media matters and CNN and go, why, the mainline Republicans are defending Jones now and they're echoing his talking points.
Yeah, exactly.
Because they're not my talking points.
I'm on your criminal asses and I read your white papers and I study you filth.
Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates and King Charles and all you people.
dan friesen
Close.
unidentified
Close call.
alex jones
I bet on humanity, and I believe in humanity.
You bet against us, and you watch.
I may not make it to see the victory, but you're going down, and you can feel it in your dirty, filthy, globalist bones.
dan friesen
Your bones are dirty.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, I'm still writing the queen on my checks, too.
I get it.
I get it.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't even think he was trying to say Prince Charles.
I think he just couldn't come up with a third person.
His anger was just like, oh, class of Bill Gates.
jordan holmes
Oh, someone!
King Charles!
dan friesen
Hey!
You know, this will be important later in this episode, but that is a smooth zero to 60 for Alex.
You know, that like...
I'm all right, I'm all right, I'm angry!
jordan holmes
It's a parabolic rise.
dan friesen
I don't know why, but it makes sense.
Alex, you know, it's that...
The Hulk.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
He's like, my secret is I'm always angry.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
That's Alex's secret.
He's always angry.
unidentified
So whenever he does that...
jordan holmes
That's my secret.
We can't have the same secret.
dan friesen
But that's why this transition from normal talking to screaming...
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
...kind of has, like, it doesn't...
If I wasn't commenting on it, it wouldn't even be noticeable.
jordan holmes
No, it's natural.
dan friesen
You listen to enough of him, it's just like, ah, this is how Alex talks.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it's way better, because whenever he tries to ramp up slowly, it comes off so fake.
dan friesen
Right, right.
Put a pin in this.
Make a note of that, because this is going to be important later.
You're going to meet somebody else who does this poorly.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So Alex takes some calls, and it takes a while to get to calls.
He said he was going to get to them immediately.
It does not.
Uh-oh.
But he talks to a guy, and he's from Australia, and Alex is obsessed with the idea that COVID lockdowns are coming back and what have you, because apparently in Wuhan, they had a small lockdown, and it's because China has a zero COVID policy, and they've done this a couple times periodically over the last year, even.
jordan holmes
It'll show up, and then everybody's locked in.
dan friesen
Yeah, and then it's alleviated.
But Alex is obsessed with, like, this is gonna...
Come back.
It's going everywhere.
And this caller brings that up, and he's like, yeah, yeah, all right.
I'm enjoying this COVID fear stuff.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
And then it goes bad.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
alex jones
Joseph, thanks for calling from the land down under.
unidentified
Oh, hey, Alex.
First of all, I have to say you're doing the Lord's work, and thank you so much for it.
And as well, you were completely right with COVID.
At the moment, I've just started putting on the news that there's going to be a wave.
Somehow they're predicting waves weeks and months before.
And they're talking about putting back in restrictions, as well as, I have read, the Australian Health Weekly Agency is the registering doctors.
alex jones
And Trudeau's doing that in Canada, and Europe's doing it, and the Democrats are planning it here, absolutely.
They're planning to come back with the same assault.
unidentified
Two more points as well.
Go ahead, go ahead.
Two points.
With the corruption, for example, in South Australia, here in Adelaide, the judges are involved in shipping in drugs, and I think it's even deeper than that, and I think it's involved with the spy agencies as well.
And it's also why you see there's a rise in youth crime across Australia.
And these young people also are threatened with violence and some to escape that in their own lives.
And as well, up in APY lands in South Australia, where the British military tested nukes back in the 60s.
I can't remember exactly.
It's primarily just an Indigenous population.
And I've talked to Indigenous people up there, and they tell me about all these things they see and all these experimental things flying in the air, and they believe it's God, but it's clearly technology that is not of this planet, and we have no business touching it.
Ooh!
alex jones
Very interesting.
What is the backlash in Australia?
From what I've seen, the people are getting really angry in a way.
dan friesen
Alright, so I guess nuclear testing has caused flying things that are alien technology to be about, and we should not deal with any kind of nuclear technology because it's not of this earth.
Long pause.
Very interesting.
Let's get back to that COVID stuff, because I don't even want to address any of this.
I want to pretend you didn't say that.
jordan holmes
This is exactly like most conversations I've had in the line waiting to get into a show.
Into a concert of some sort.
If I'm waiting to see Sylvan Esso, somebody's going to have a nice little conversation with you.
You're going to be like, this is great!
I am enjoying this!
Did you know aliens are coming for you?
God damn it!
We're just going to stand here in silence for the rest of the night.
dan friesen
It makes me...
It makes me think of that exchange that I had when we were in Hawaii, and I saw a guy who was complaining about Democratic politicians, and normally I would just be like, I don't even want, I just ignore it, but I was like, ha ha ha!
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
It's like I was in such a good mood going to the beach.
unidentified
Yeah, it's just a good day.
dan friesen
It's like, all right.
jordan holmes
All right!
unidentified
Hey, hey!
dan friesen
And if this guy had come up to me and talked about how these nuclear weapons were creating flying things that are not of this earth, I'm like, my man!
alex jones
Preach!
dan friesen
Yeah, but that's, I mean, Alex has to understand that a lot of his callers, if not kept to a very short amount of time, are going to reveal some kind of a position or idea that they have that makes their other positions that he wants to hear about look a little silly.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
You keep him on a short leash.
You keep him on a short leash.
dan friesen
So, another caller calls in.
He wants to talk a little bit about this Pelosi situation that everybody's talking about.
jordan holmes
Everybody can't stop talking.
alex jones
We're taking calls in order to receive.
Tim in FEMA Region 9. Tim, go ahead.
unidentified
Hi, Alex.
This is Tim.
Long-time listener, first-time caller.
alex jones
Good to have you here.
unidentified
I wanted to mention, you know, I looked up the so-called Pelosi attacker.
Just did a quick search online.
And, you know, the guy is 42 years old.
It looks like he's a pretty hefty guy.
And I just think it's kind of laughable that they would put this story out that a feeble 82-year-old alcoholic could bend somebody like that off.
That would be able to stop him at all.
alex jones
Well, the police say in the police report they came in and both men were in their underwear with hammers beating each other with hammers.
And that's on record.
unidentified
Yeah, it's just laughable.
That doesn't clear things up.
alex jones
We'll notice now, as Cernovich says, asking for evidence is the new conspiracy theory.
dan friesen
Alex is making shit up about a police report here.
But this caller is confused because the media he's consuming is full of shit.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It would be confusing to imagine that Paul Pelosi could take to Pape in a fight.
really relevant because they weren't fighting.
DePaype wasn't there to attack or kill Paul.
He was perfectly fine waiting around with him until Nancy returned.
Paul didn't have to fight off DePaype, which is why this situation really isn't that confusing.
And he just doesn't...
Get that.
Asking for evidence isn't the new conspiracy theory, but it is really fun that Cernovich is still a name that people like Alex say without feeling intense shame.
What Cernovich is describing is the same old game the conspiracy theorists have always played.
Essentially, it goes like this.
There's an event that you desperately don't want people to accept as real because it's super threatening to your political project or propaganda business model.
You don't really have any direct means of invalidating the event and you can't really claim that it didn't happen, so what you do is you make a ridiculous demand and insist that it's suspicious that your demand isn't being met.
The public has no right to the surveillance video from the Pelosi household and the police have already said that the claim that they've refused to turn it over to the authorities is false.
But through repetition and an insistence that you would totally believe the story if they just made that video public, you can convince your audience that it's a reasonable demand and that it makes no sense that the Pelosi's wouldn't release the footage.
Wouldn't they want to put that out?
Because it would silence the dissenters.
It's suspicious that they're not.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
It's the whole thing.
dan friesen
This is a tried and true game.
It gets played pretty much every time with conspiracies to some degree or another.
And it's a scam.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Cernovich and Alex don't actually want any footage to be released because they know damn well that it wouldn't prove anything that they want proven.
All they want is the ability to use the fact that it's not released as some kind of a means to introduce suspicion and doubt in their audience, and you can see clearly that it works.
jordan holmes
And if it is released, they'll be like, oh, this is edited.
It will give us the uncut video.
Yada, yada, yada.
It'll never end.
It's a trap.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's not sincere.
Because what you're saying is what would happen.
It would either be like there's something that it's not really released.
Or it would just pivot onto some other demand for information that's suspicious that they haven't released.
Totally.
You know, it's the Obama birth certificate.
No, we need the long form one.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's all just this stupid fucking game.
jordan holmes
We've gone down this too many times.
dan friesen
But it works!
jordan holmes
I know, but it's unacceptable.
And also, this is not how I wanted to find out that Ray Romano is an info warrior.
I'll tell you that right now.
You didn't hear that voice?
unidentified
Oh, come on.
dan friesen
Maybe I was just...
I don't know.
Huh.
What was his wife's name on...
jordan holmes
Everybody Loves Raymond?
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
Is it Nancy?
jordan holmes
It's not.
dan friesen
It's Paul.
So, get another call and...
So one of the things that's really a through line throughout this episode is Biden gave a speech and he talked about how there's going to be, you know, we may not have an answer for all of the midterm elections on election night.
You know, there's going to be some ballot counting that may take a while.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So just preparing people and, like, reminding people that that's the case.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Now, this is proof.
That Biden is telling people, we're about to steal it, naturally.
So that's sort of the game that Alex is playing on here.
And so this caller has some thoughts about that.
unidentified
Yeah, Alex, with Biden's speech last night, why would you tactically follow up the Philadelphia speech, which was so badly received, with this speech last night, and sprinkle in some, hey, it's going to take us some time to count the votes, okay?
Unless you knew.
alex jones
He was prepping everybody not to question the steal and saying that he was elected totally fair and square, the cleanest election ever, and then demonizing his opposition and then saying that they're going to try to steal the next election.
That's what he said.
unidentified
Yeah, nothing about how the country's going, nothing about how to change how badly things are going.
Not one word about that.
alex jones
No, everything is Paul Pelosi in his underwear with a dude with a hammer.
unidentified
One reason I don't believe that is because...
Just like with the, where's Nancy?
Where's Nancy?
That just seems like, you know, there's no way that would happen again like that.
alex jones
Why?
That's the only thing that would happen.
What do you think is going to happen in the next five days?
dan friesen
Oh, they wrote up that script.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
I guess there's two ways you could really interpret that.
That would be that there was a script for the attack.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And that part of the script was DePaype saying where's Nancy so they could connect it to January 6th.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Or the other way I guess you could read this is Alex saying that the media coverage of it has a script where DePaype didn't actually say where's Nancy and everybody is just saying that so they could connect it to January 6th.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Except that DePaype in his interview said that that's what he said.
Because it was part of the script.
jordan holmes
Which is really, really important to keep this in mind, because if this conspiracy is true, that means that when Alex is asking why were they found in their underwear with hammer...
dan friesen
Because it was part of the script.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, was it?
Because if it's not...
That's a question that I need to know about.
How did we get to naked hammering?
dan friesen
I will say that if there is a play that I'm auditioning for and part of it involves getting hit with a hammer, I'm not taking that role.
jordan holmes
What script?
Are they writing where they're like, alright, now, while you wait, listen, I get it.
You're gonna be bored.
Try hammer-fucking.
We did it the other night where the FBI, we all got together at Langley or whatever it is.
unidentified
Let me send you a link.
jordan holmes
I don't know where they are, but listen, hammer-fucking is on the rise, my man.
What are you talking about?
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a little bit strange.
I don't know.
One of the advantages that Alex has is that callers also don't ask follow-up questions, and so it can just sort of lay there as there was a script, and it doesn't really mean it.
It could mean whatever you want it to mean.
jordan holmes
I do appreciate that somehow Biden's saying it.
It takes a while to count is not immediately understood as correct.
unidentified
No, no, no, no, no.
dan friesen
It's proof.
He's saying we're about to steal it.
jordan holmes
Because I'm going to be honest with you.
I feel like most of these people who are claiming that's a conspiracy should really recognize that it does take a while to count.
I feel like that's a relatable fact for them.
dan friesen
I have a vampire puppet that I'd like to introduce them to.
So we heard a little bit from this guy in the Out of Context drop, but here is Mr. Battle Roar himself.
jordan holmes
All right, let's give a roar.
unidentified
Hey Jones, I just wanted to make a quick point and share Battle Roar with you if I could so you can make a commercial out of it.
But look, with all these narratives that they craft, it's not people like you and people like me who want to build narratives.
We want straight forward.
I want to obliterate you with my ideas and my speech and embarrass you so you go away and your ideas are wiped off the stage.
Okay, no violence, none of that.
We don't need that.
And just so you really know how I feel.
Ah!
Yeah!
Yeah!
That's right!
Let's go!
dan friesen
I think I know how he feels.
I think I got it.
I find it very sad when I hear something like that.
I mean, first of all, the way that the artificial growling and stuff...
It's a bummer.
But even sadder is a feeling that he's expressing that we don't believe in narratives.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You're just listening to a guy who makes shit up in order to story tell.
jordan holmes
He's telling stories.
I don't know what you're talking about.
dan friesen
It must be comforting to feel like that isn't how you engage with information.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But it's not true.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Anybody who listens to Alex is addicted.
To narratives.
jordan holmes
I mean, he's always...
Everything is from a movie!
Of course you're addicted to narratives!
dan friesen
And honestly, I don't think that narratives themselves as a way to experience a lot of stuff is bad.
It's just when they're...
jordan holmes
I mean, it's the way most people experience it.
dan friesen
That's true.
But when it's...
You know, narratives that are built on completely fraudulent information and meant to direct you towards really dangerous and negative conclusions.
That's, you know, when you should probably recognize your...
Not special.
Your mind thinks in stories.
Come on, bro.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
It's just so hard, you know?
You want to think that you're an individual iconoclast that acts like everybody else wishes they could, and instead you're someone listening to Alex Jones daily.
dan friesen
And you know what I feel about that.
jordan holmes
We shared a battle roar.
I hope he uses it in a commercial.
dan friesen
So Alex talks a little bit about his belief in electoralism, which is weird.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, what?
dan friesen
Well, there's a reason that you should vote.
alex jones
Jared in Michigan, go ahead.
Welcome.
unidentified
Hey, so the liberal Democrats, they just, you know, they tell us what they're going to do and they keep, you know, like stealing the elections, all that stuff.
So we go and vote, but they're still telling us they're going to steal it and do all this crap.
They just do it in front of us, but there's nothing we can really do?
You know what I mean?
What happens when we vote and they just steal it again?
jordan holmes
Poorly put, but good question.
alex jones
Everybody asks me, well, if there's election fraud, why vote?
Because they have to use the names of dead people.
And they have to use the names of people that have moved out of state.
So they have a limited pool that they've got.
That's why they're picking certain states.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, what?
alex jones
In key battlegrounds.
And so, a massive tsunami...
Here's a dumb way, a simple way of saying it.
If there's 350 million Americans...
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
alex jones
And let's say 300 million are voting age.
jordan holmes
Why?
Why would you say that?
alex jones
Or 270 million, whatever it is.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
If they all voted Republican, they couldn't statistically say Republicans lost because it isn't possible.
So it's a smaller margin than that, but that's basically what's happening.
Jared, love you.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, think about it.
jordan holmes
Alright, so every single time you don't vote Republican, the Democrats use your name to vote Democrat.
dan friesen
Only if you're dead.
So look, this is one of the weaker defenses of electoralism that I've heard in a while.
jordan holmes
It's been a while.
It really has.
dan friesen
If everyone voted GOP, then the Democrats couldn't say that the election was stolen.
Science.
jordan holmes
Math.
dan friesen
Also, why do the people rigging the election need to use the names of dead people or people who've moved out of state?
If this is such an elaborate plot that they're engaged in, why couldn't they create fake identities?
jordan holmes
You can't just make up names.
unidentified
You can't.
jordan holmes
How could...
Could you?
dan friesen
Plus, if the whole scheme relies on fraudulent votes and dead people's names, where are the examples of that happening in 2020?
Alex seems to believe it's a rock-solid case that that's what they are doing and what they plan to do, so it seems weird that I don't think I've ever heard him cite one example of it happening.
jordan holmes
There is that.
dan friesen
Did you know that if you cast an absentee ballot but you die before election day that they will invalidate your ballot?
That happened to 3,469 voters in Michigan alone.
Weird.
PolitiFact reviewed news reports of instances where people cast ballots on behalf of dead people and found that, quote, Republicans were more often the perpetrators.
And this isn't always a malicious form of fraud either.
Sometimes it's one of the cases where someone dies after casting an absentee ballot and the system doesn't catch it.
That does happen sometimes.
Or in many cases, it could be a relative or a loved one of the deceased person who fell in the house.
felt like casting the vote in their name would have been in keeping in line with their wishes.
Sure.
unidentified
It's still fraud, but maybe it's not as rooted in evil or malice as it might have you might assume initially.
dan friesen
Whatever the case, the frequency of people voting in dead people's names is so small as to be irrelevant.
This argument Alex has is pathetic and meaningless, but that's because he actually doesn't want He also knows that if...
That's his position, that voting is meaningless and that nothing will ever change through that system.
A whole lot of his listeners will take that as a sign that it's time to take up arms.
So he probably doesn't want to fully endorse that publicly either.
unidentified
I suppose.
dan friesen
He wants a trickling of chaos, not like the full-on unintended consequences version where everyone goes out and kills all the police.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He doesn't want that.
jordan holmes
He doesn't want people to go to some sort of place and then storm it.
dan friesen
Some guy home invading the Pelosi's.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Cool.
unidentified
Cool.
jordan holmes
We get to make jokes about how it's...
dan friesen
January 6th, difficult, but it worked out okay.
We can profit off that.
jordan holmes
Shockingly enough.
dan friesen
Yes.
You can still be in business.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The notion of a bunch of Alex's audience taking up arms or something and like, well, fuck it, we'll never solve this through the system.
Right.
That's too much.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, ironically, that might be the only way to save democracy, is if they were to actually take up arms, everybody would be like, maybe this problem is too big to ignore for now.
Instead, we're going to be like, eh, we'll just let them do it for another few years, and then we'll live into fascism.
alex jones
It'll be great.
dan friesen
I don't agree with your position.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, obviously.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex has another caller.
alex jones
Don in Florida.
John, go ahead.
unidentified
Yes, Alex.
Long-time listener, first-time caller.
alex jones
Thank you.
unidentified
I believe I'm a critical thinker.
jordan holmes
Stop.
unidentified
I have a PhD, so I just don't follow anybody for any reason.
And I believe that we will win the election, but we have to be vigilant.
Because they are going to try to steal it, as we saw today on Infowars News, that a judge in Arizona is stopping the mule watchers, which is ridiculous.
We need the mule watchers out there.
down.
We have a PhD.
I have bought X3 in the past.
I have not used it yet.
I'm saving it in case of a nuclear war.
dan friesen
Oh, is that Ray Romano?
Yeah, so he's got a PhD, but he likes the Mule Watchers, which we'll get to later.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And also, he's saving his X3 in case of a nuclear war.
jordan holmes
Ah, man, that is an interesting PhD.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
I doubt it's a PhD in the effects of radiation on the human body.
I will say that.
dan friesen
Sure.
Or voter intimidation.
So we had another caller.
This guy is fun.
alex jones
J. Rowe in Georgia.
unidentified
Hey, Alex Jones.
What's going on, my brother?
How are you doing today?
alex jones
Man, I am living inside the New World Order.
Living the New World Order nightmare.
unidentified
Man, I'm trying to tell you, look, I spoke to you about a week ago.
alex jones
I don't know if you remember, and I prayed for you live on air.
unidentified
And we talked about possibly doing a spiritual segment.
alex jones
I remember your call.
unidentified
Amen, yes, sir.
So I'm not in here really to call, but like I told you, for some reason, I've been a 16-year listener.
alex jones
I've only been able to get in through to you about three times.
unidentified
This is the third time.
And today is my birthday on top of that, which is amazing.
alex jones
Well, that's beautiful, brother.
Lead us in a prayer.
unidentified
No!
dan friesen
Yep, so get a prayer.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Ah, dude.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, I love this, though.
A week ago, this guy called in.
They're going to do a spiritual segment, which is going to happen right after Alex gets that show of callers off the air.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Any moment.
dan friesen
Yes.
He calls back in.
They pray.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, I think that if Alex had been doing this kind of stuff, like back in the 9-11 days and all this, his career would not have gone the same way as it would, because a lot of those people who were like, Ostensibly skeptic-leaning and kind of atheist, but also have some leanings towards conspiracy.
They would see him for the religious zealot that he actually is.
And I don't think that he would have had any traction outside of the extreme right militia folks and the Christian identity folks.
And I think that would have been a better reality.
But he obscured that quite successfully.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I think most people do.
I think that's one of the things that we all...
I guess just kind of paper over is how many of these benign beliefs are also hiding some sort of like passive acceptance beliefs.
You know, like, hey, listen.
dan friesen
That's not what this is.
jordan holmes
I'm against all this stuff, but I'd be fine with something, you know?
dan friesen
That's not what this is.
jordan holmes
That's not what this is.
No, no, no, no.
This is a little bit different.
dan friesen
This is not passive.
jordan holmes
This is not passive.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
So we get another caller.
they're going to steal it again based on this joe biden speech of course sure uh very dumb hi alex um cincinnati loves you cincinnati ohio um there's a big red I can't wait to see what they do.
alex jones
No, you're certainly right that we forced the corruption out in the open, and now we're going to make them steal it in front of us again.
That's just going to cause an even bigger awakening.
So people say, well, they're just going to steal it again.
That'll just make people more mad.
That's what I'm saying.
I think the deep staters are going to let the Republicans win the House, maybe even get a few seats in the Senate, but they're going to mitigate this massive realignment that just happened.
And so, because they know stealing two in a row is too much, then they're going to have a partial sale.
unidentified
Obviously.
dan friesen
Why?
jordan holmes
Because!
unidentified
Yes.
But I just, everybody is so fed up that I just can't, I can see everybody just hitting the streets.
I mean, if it gets too crazy, you know, we're just fed up with it.
Everybody's awake that I talk to.
I wear the Alex Jones' Right t-shirt.
When I go, you know, when I got to the store, everybody's always talking and everybody is awake.
I mean, they know what's going on.
alex jones
Well, I mean, I would just say this for a fact.
I go out to dinner, business meetings and stuff, and I'm more mob than ever and get basically nothing but support.
So all their show trials and everything just blew up in their face.
It's not really translating into actual financial support.
That's...
Look, I'm not bragging.
unidentified
It's just a fact.
alex jones
The globalists hate infoboers more than any other independent media organization in the world.
Because they hate Americana.
They hate populism.
They hate grassroots.
They hate you.
dan friesen
Bad time to get cut off by the break.
jordan holmes
Not really making any money.
Are you giving me money?
dan friesen
They hate you, you, you, you, you.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
That was just...
Good timing.
jordan holmes
I'm confused as to why we don't just make voting mandatory.
If we're going to have to fight all of this, every election is stolen, then just make voting mandatory.
Everybody has to vote, and then you can't steal the election.
dan friesen
Well, if that were to be something that were done, then you'd have to also come up with a lot of ways to make it more accessible.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
To people.
They don't want to do that.
Yeah, but I think if you go that route, then you'd have to add a lot of other steps along the way, too.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, obviously, they don't want to solve the problem.
They want the problem to be there so they can blame it whenever they steal it.
Obviously, it's not a problem they want to solve.
dan friesen
Right.
Solving the electoral system is much the same as demanding the Pelosi's security footage.
It is a fake complaint that they have.
In order to justify their own beliefs.
jordan holmes
Ending the election system, yes.
dan friesen
Well, and, you know, the notion that they can't steal two in a row is silly, first of all.
jordan holmes
Well, it didn't work the first time.
dan friesen
If you believe that they're stealing these elections, then why not?
Oh, no, they wouldn't do that.
jordan holmes
Oh, we wouldn't buy it the second time.
What are you talking about?
dan friesen
Assholes stormed the Capitol.
jordan holmes
They literally stormed the Capitol!
What, are you gonna double storm it?
dan friesen
Right, what do you think?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
We know you don't believe that elections are real.
We know!
dan friesen
I mean, it's legit just a way of...
Really antagonizing the audience and this base to be hostile and very angry anytime Democrats win.
jordan holmes
Well, and it's also a little bit like, you know, when we talk about voter fraud, that kind of stuff, it happens more often because Republicans do it than Democrats, that kind of thing.
And that's partially just psychological, you know, like...
dan friesen
Actually, I think it happens more by accident.
jordan holmes
Well, sure, sure.
No, no, no, totally.
But I mean, the point is they're priming them to say that the Democrats steal elections.
Right.
unidentified
And if you do that, then that means that it's morally OK for you to steal elections.
jordan holmes
Maybe.
unidentified
Because they're already doing it.
jordan holmes
Maybe.
unidentified
That's the way that their process works is they bring it into a situation where it's like, well, obviously they're stealing elections.
jordan holmes
So there's no reason we shouldn't.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
In fact, it would be stupid for us not to because then we're not even playing the same game.
Yeah, we're playing fucking checkers and they're playing chess.
We have to steal the election.
dan friesen
You may have something there.
I think it's more just a way to always feel like you're the righteous party.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, there's definitely that.
dan friesen
Even in defeat.
jordan holmes
There are a lot of good reasons to do evil.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, my man, this next caller blew my mind.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
I believe you.
dan friesen
I still don't know what to think about this.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
Hey, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'd like you to...
unidentified
I have something I'd like to donate to your legal fund, and I'd like you to put me on hold after a call because I have actually a Picasso and Warhol that I'd like to donate to your legal fund.
alex jones
Well, that's pretty amazing.
A Picasso, Andy Warhol.
Well, make sure we call this fellow back and talk to him because we need the funds.
That would be beautiful, brother.
dan friesen
I don't believe this, necessarily.
I'm going to guess he has, like, replicas or something.
jordan holmes
Something.
dan friesen
What he's asking or offering here is a ridiculous thing.
jordan holmes
He can't truly believe that he's offering up both an original Picasso and an original Warhol.
dan friesen
The cheapest of Picasso's paintings still sell for over $100,000, and some are valued in the tens of millions.
In order for this guy to have this painting, someone would have had to pay a shitload for it, and if you're in the position to pay for a piece of art like that, you could just donate money to Alex instead of parting with a legitimate piece of history that it's only going to appreciate in value.
jordan holmes
I think it should be illegal to give art to Alex.
I think that should just be illegal.
dan friesen
Alex hates art.
jordan holmes
Yeah, just blanket.
dan friesen
The value of Warhol pieces is a bit more variable.
His Maryland painting sold earlier this year for $195 million, but there are a bunch of his works that are substantially cheaper than that.
If this is real, and I have misgivings about that, it represents a deeply fanatical and unhealthy attachment to making sure Alex stays wealthy.
Whatever amount he could possibly get from selling these artworks will absolutely not make an impact on his ability to carry out his legal case, and honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Alex would just keep them.
Like, why not?
It's an investment.
If you have a Picasso, there's not going to be more of them.
jordan holmes
It shouldn't be.
No one can let Alex have art.
I'm just against it.
No sculptures, no art, no music, no nothing.
dan friesen
Jordan, consider this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That Marilyn painting is the most expensive piece made by either of these artists.
Really?
Yeah, and if Alex got the full value from selling it, he'd still need like $800 million to cover his case from Sandy Hook.
jordan holmes
That's so funny.
dan friesen
So, I don't know.
I would keep it if I were this caller.
jordan holmes
Man, hard to believe.
Do people think Warhol was good at stuff?
That's the weird thing to me.
dan friesen
Well, that Marilyn painting is very iconic.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know?
jordan holmes
I mean, sure.
Whatever.
Whatever, art world.
What's next?
A skull?
dan friesen
A crystal skull with jism on it?
jordan holmes
Now, that's worth money.
dan friesen
Yeah.
No, okay.
Yeah, I guess...
I got really self-conscious about this because you were like...
jordan holmes
Well, Guernica is not expensive.
Guernica is priceless.
We're not talking about the same kind of thing.
dan friesen
The most expensive thing that's been sold.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
That's a better way of putting it.
dan friesen
I'm seeing an article from 2015 here saying that the women of Algiers...
Painting of Picasso's is the most expensive of his that sold, and it was $174 million.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, yeah, there is a chance that there are Picassos that will never sell and are in museums that would be more valuable.
jordan holmes
Of course, yes.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
That makes more sense.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Guernica is a fucking human treasure, you know?
It's not like you could sell that.
I mean, I suppose you could because we live in 2022.
dan friesen
Plot twist.
That's what this guy's offering.
jordan holmes
I'm waiting for it, yeah.
I have the real Guernica.
We gave the fake to the museum.
dan friesen
It was fun.
The Infowar.
So anyway, Alex gets really excited about this idea of people giving him valuables.
jordan holmes
Of course he does!
dan friesen
So this is what he says.
alex jones
And yeah, that's a great idea with listeners.
Anything folks want to donate, we should create like a donate at Infowars.com where you can send us emails of what you want to donate.
And you've got my pledge.
If you donate a truck or sell it, give us the proceeds.
Or you donate a painting, 100% We'll go to fund this operation.
Now, quite frankly, I agreed to a deal, I'll just be honest with listeners, where I'm currently getting paid $40,000 a month to work here, and I could live off that.
I don't need a bunch of, I got a truck and I got a car and a nice, decent house with a little pool in the back, and I just, I'm a suburban guy.
But the bankruptcy court said, I've got to pay 40% of the legal bills.
dan friesen
Yeah, no shit.
I wonder if Alex realizes that $40,000 a month is substantially higher than almost everyone in his audience makes.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's unreal.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Him saying that it's like a modest living is pretty wild, and saying it in the same breath where he's asking people to donate their cars to help him pay his legal fees is just amazing.
Very out of touch.
jordan holmes
Listen, I'm salaried at half a million dollars a year.
Now, obviously, the fact that I own the company and keep most of my money offshore and in Bitcoin and stuff.
Now, don't worry about that.
Sell your own shit to give me five grand.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Also, why is Alex surprised that he has to pay part of his legal expenses?
He's being sued, and he owns 100% of the company that's being sued with him.
I'd be willing to bet that he would be able to offload all of that onto the company, but I bet he has some language in his corporate policies where he doesn't cover legal expenses for employees.
jordan holmes
Yeah, something along those lines.
dan friesen
He doesn't want to be on the hook for what Dan Badandi does.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Don't sell your truck and give the proceeds to Alex, if you're one of his listeners who's listening to this somehow.
A fucking Picasso can't save him, $8 million in Bitcoin couldn't save him, and your used F1...
$150 isn't going to do anything other than get a few bucks in Alex's pocket.
Save it.
Keep it.
Give it to your kids.
jordan holmes
Do something.
Do anything with it.
dan friesen
Give it to the cars for kids.
jordan holmes
Light it on fire would be better for the world than giving it to Alex.
dan friesen
You could maybe do that as an art installation.
jordan holmes
Maybe make a little cash on the side.
Sell it to Alex.
Send an email.
Take a video of you lighting your car on fire.
dan friesen
It's the new Guernica.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I like it.
I hear it's worth $200 million.
dan friesen
So Alex complains about money because of course he does.
unidentified
Naturally.
alex jones
Well, they were just telling me during the break they said, hey boss.
We can't do 60% off on all these.
We're losing money on two of the products.
And I said, raise the price.
They said, well, that looks like you raised it to lower it.
We just got to not say it.
I said, okay, well, after this sale, then if it's costing us more to buy something, I'm going to have to increase it 10%.
You know, everybody gets the inflation.
So that's the thing we're dealing with.
And I don't want to spend all my time on the business end.
I'm not complaining.
But I spend half my time now or more not on air jacking with the money to fund this place.
It would be a great blessing.
jordan holmes
Sorry, what?
Doing what with the money?
Are you hammer-fucking that money?
alex jones
More interviews if we had the money.
But I'm not complaining.
I didn't even know how insolvent we were a year ago.
The money came in.
God will provide again.
Or it's time in God's plan for me to downsize or not be on air.
And I don't want to quit.
I'll never quit.
But I'll keep fighting as hard as I can.
And then if God decides that I'm not supposed to have the support working through you, if you decide God working through you, that means you, if you decide to take me out of the game...
jordan holmes
I thought it meant him.
alex jones
Maybe that's what's supposed to happen.
Maybe I'm going to have a heart attack in two years if I don't stop.
Maybe God's like, hey, you've done enough, buddy.
And so I'm really at peace about all this.
And I don't want to stop fighting, but I mean, I can tell you that...
We need you to go to Infowars.com and get Alex's War or get Endgame, get a DVD, get a book, get Great Reset.
And I don't like coming on here and just, give me money, give me money, support me.
But worse than me sitting here begging, and I don't like begging, is giving in to these people.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
This guy is tortured.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
Oh, no.
dan friesen
He sounds happier than he's ever been, really.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
dan friesen
Yeah.
There is no chance that 60% off is him taking a loss on some of these dumb pills.
jordan holmes
I appreciate this, because the thought occurred to me that we've had a lot of situations where you could take Alex Jones' clips from his shows and play them in a school setting, and you could learn a lot from them.
For lawyers, if you want to become a better lawyer, you can play some Alex Jones clips.
You know what not to do.
You know how to not be a bad lawyer.
That also...
Accounts for business.
I forgot about that.
You could get an NBA by not doing what Alex tells you to do or says he's doing on his show.
dan friesen
This would be a good anti-marketing example.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
If you wanted to teach somebody how not to get a truck from somebody, you could play that last clip.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
This is like a rich dad, poor dad kind of situation.
dan friesen
Listen, though.
Alex feels sometimes like he can't.
Ask for money anymore.
jordan holmes
No, he's just run out of juice.
dan friesen
But then, he digs deep.
jordan holmes
He's got it in him.
alex jones
So every time I'm like, I can't push anymore.
I can't.
I don't want to do this.
I hate spending all my time on business because I'm not a business guy.
And then I go, oh, give in to the New World Order and the ADL and the Democrats and the Satanists.
I'm like, ah!
jordan holmes
Give me money!
alex jones
Give it to me!
Give it to me now!
So, please give me money.
unidentified
Okay.
Okay.
dan friesen
Alright.
jordan holmes
When I think about bad things, I yell.
I yell, so give me money!
unidentified
When I think about bad things, I yell, give me money, so give me money.
dan friesen
Convincing.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't know if I've ever seen an argument more distilled down into the things that he does believe.
dan friesen
I don't fully remember what this clip is, but it involves Alex yelling on the phone with another caller, so here, enjoy.
alex jones
Regardless, they're losing, which again...
Joshua makes them dangerous.
I'm worried about a false flag in the next five days.
What do you think?
jordan holmes
Well, I'm aware of it.
unidentified
I think that the threat is real.
I think they definitely want to gin up a lot of violence.
They want to say how dangerous Republicans are.
Republicans love this country.
Republicans want...
alex jones
Republicans don't run this country.
Republicans built it.
Republicans do all the damn work.
We all know it.
And they're black, and they're white, and they're Hispanic, and they're old, and they're young, and they're Asian, and they're everywhere.
And everybody knows real business people, real hard-working people are Republicans.
We're not perfect, but it's the best party we've got in this country, and we're taking the Republican Party over.
We've almost done it.
So that's the good news.
I appreciate your call.
dan friesen
This guy is above the left-right paradigm.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Republicans built this country and they do everything because I'm above the left-right paradigm.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Alright.
Hey, this guy should read Ayn Rand.
jordan holmes
You know what's crazy?
I'm confused as to why they still think that false flags are coming.
dan friesen
Well, I thought Biden was supposed to be dead by now.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, and not just that, but like, we saw what happened.
Somebody made a harebrained attempt to assassinate the Speaker of the House.
dan friesen
Or at very least, hold hostage and maim.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
And everybody was like, eh, it was a day.
It was a day or two.
dan friesen
I think some people are concerned about it.
One guy went to prison.
Alex has done a whole season about hammer-fucking.
Right, that's true.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it sweeps week.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
You make a good point that it seems like anything happening probably wouldn't make all that much of an impact.
jordan holmes
I really feel like at this point everybody's kind of...
I think everybody just expects political violence and now, and if it happens, we'll be like, well, that's part of the game, I guess.
Honestly.
dan friesen
It's unfortunate.
jordan holmes
Isn't that where we are?
dan friesen
It sucks!
I don't think it's where we should be.
jordan holmes
No, agreed.
dan friesen
It's a bleak statement of how lackadaisical has gotten about...
I mean, we'll get back to this here in a little bit, this discussion about the Mule Watchers and stuff like that.
That is also even another lackadaisical approach that we're taking to something that should be one of the most seriously taken things.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
But, you know...
I mean, maybe what if instead we should lower taxes for rich people?
dan friesen
That's an interesting idea.
jordan holmes
I think I got a pitch for the Democrats.
dan friesen
I just got a text from our friend Marty DeRosa.
Hammer time with Alex was a wild ride.
Apparently listening to our last episode.
And that actually reminds me that I got a tweet from somebody that I should have come up with another person that was Greg the Hammer Valentine.
It's another wrestler, but I was distracted by Jim the Anvil Neihardt.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
I never came up with it.
Wanted to issue that correction and apology.
jordan holmes
Good work.
dan friesen
Hammer.
jordan holmes
Uncle Howdy.
dan friesen
Now listen, this next caller.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Mic down for this.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
Because how this starts.
Awesome.
I want more of this on InfoWars for sure.
alex jones
Let's talk to Rick in Arizona.
Rick, you're on the air.
Welcome.
unidentified
Hey, Alex, you're the man.
I got this clown world idea here.
You guys are in Texas and Louisiana.
Texas, Louisiana, they have all the refining capacity, right, for diesel and distillates.
Hysterical nonsense is going on about us running out of diesel.
If diesel production has stopped, then I guess we're in deep doo-doo.
But as far as I know, production has not stopped for diesel.
alex jones
No, it hasn't.
So explain what's causing the bottleneck.
unidentified
I think petroleum companies want to make windfall profits out of fear and panic.
alex jones
I agree that the main driver's inflation...
But when Biden occasionally tells the truth, he says, I'm going to go after the oil companies, they're definitely globalists, and they're definitely part of the whole problem.
dan friesen
Oh, wait, so now the oil companies are globalists?
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
So this caller, I mean, first of all, wow.
Love it.
jordan holmes
No, I refuse to hear that one time, and then not acknowledge, nobody acknowledged it.
dan friesen
Caller got sound effect.
jordan holmes
He just said, I've got a clown world idea.
And then they moved on like it didn't happen?
No, fuck off!
That's the only thing I want to talk about.
dan friesen
There's a payoff for this.
You're just gonna have to pump the brakes.
Okay.
But he brings up a point, and that is that...
Diesel isn't going to run out unless they stop production.
You've got this wrong.
And Alex has to come up with a way to kind of hold on to his diesel fears.
And so now apparently the oil companies are globalists.
But this doesn't work.
This isn't going to play.
jordan holmes
No, he loves the oil companies.
I mean, his family is part of oil companies or whatever it is.
dan friesen
But that's a good first attempt.
And then as they keep talking, he's like, oh, no, wait, I can do this.
unidentified
You believe that the production of diesel has been stopped then, and they're not making any new diesel at all?
alex jones
No, when we say, if you do the numbers, it planes out to, they will not have any new supplies, and it'll be behind schedule and major shortages starting in like 12 days.
And it's been done because Biden shut down one of the biggest diesel refineries.
He curtailed it with regulators and a bunch of others.
They've shut down a bunch of delivery systems.
There are supply problems.
I mean, I talk to oil company folks that work at every level of it.
A lot of my family works at every level, from roughnecks to plant managers to delivery companies, you name it.
And they have been scavenging the last three years under the lockdowns and control.
For oil, well, and gas equipment and parts to plants.
And so a lot of the parts aren't made here, and so they can't get the parts, and the plants are breaking down.
Does that make sense?
unidentified
Yeah, it kind of makes me want to scream like my screaming goat here.
alex jones
Hey, Rick, I appreciate your call, brother.
Thank you.
jordan holmes
No.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Okay.
dan friesen
A little shoehorned, a little forced.
jordan holmes
What do we got?
What do we got here?
dan friesen
He's got a soundboard.
jordan holmes
I mean, does he have...
I mean, that's what I'm talking...
I want to know his mechanics now.
I want to know what equipment he's using.
dan friesen
Probably, like, on an app on his phone or something.
jordan holmes
No, but I want him to have the full board.
I want him to have the little...
dan friesen
I'm guessing what you've got is somebody who's on a house phone but has a cell phone that has a soundboard app on it.
That's my guess, maybe.
Or he could just have...
jordan holmes
Keyboard.
Casio keyboard.
He could have one of those little keyboards that's got all the sound effects on it.
dan friesen
He programmed a screaming goat in there?
jordan holmes
Who hasn't spent a day programming a screaming goat into their keyboard?
dan friesen
Perhaps.
jordan holmes
Perhaps.
You might be right.
dan friesen
It's probably his phone.
What he's saying is all nonsense, though, but it doesn't matter.
Alex is just trying to find a way for his conspiracy to make sense by making things up as he goes along, and it's a really good way, if you want to do this, a good way to do it is to make up personal stories from random people that you know to defend your points.
jordan holmes
Anecdotal evidence.
dan friesen
I know all these roughnecks.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And these are compelling things for his audience, these anecdotal stories.
Because they're narrative-driven people, and Alex knows this, and he can manipulate them with storytelling, regardless of what that past caller said.
jordan holmes
But that guy said that he wasn't a narrative-driven person.
It was all about his ideas.
dan friesen
That guy is unfortunately delusional.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's unfortunate.
dan friesen
So in reality, there have been nine oil refineries that have been shut down or scaled back since the COVID pandemic began, and most of them happened under Trump's presidency.
Another was damaged in Hurricane Ida, and one had an explosion in 2019 that's still limiting its capacity.
There's a confluence of variables that are affecting the situation with Diesel, but it's not going to run out in the middle of December, and as time goes on, the price will stabilize and trend downward.
None of the stuff Alex is saying has any connection to reality, and if it did, he wouldn't spend so much of his time covering this dumb Paul Pelosi story, and he'd have no patience for screaming goats and clown horns.
Although that guy's my favorite caller in a long time.
jordan holmes
It has been a long time.
dan friesen
It's ambitious.
It's somebody having fun.
Goddammit, it's great.
jordan holmes
And it is, like, it is...
A commitment that he said, I am going to play this when I call.
He wasn't like last minute.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
You know, it wasn't like a game time decision.
Like, his finger's on the button and he has a moment of uncertainty.
dan friesen
No, because he shoehorned in, I want to scream like my screaming goats.
jordan holmes
It's the screaming goat.
dan friesen
That's a bit.
jordan holmes
You know it.
Yeah.
Because he didn't have, it wasn't improvised.
He didn't have other screaming things or another, he's just got...
Clown horn and screaming goat.
dan friesen
Well, and he didn't have to say, it makes me want to scream.
Like, that wasn't a necessary comment for him to make.
He made that comment so he could play the sound.
jordan holmes
He had to set up the sound effect.
dan friesen
Love it.
Love it.
Anyway, we got a guest.
Do we?
Yeah, we do.
jordan holmes
Do we have to?
dan friesen
Unfortunately.
alex jones
I'm having a big shotgun with us for the rest of the hour and taking your phone calls.
David and Chris and Carlos and Bart and Summer and Cody and JP and Antonio and Chris is one of my good friends and one of the best talk show hosts out there, not just journalist and political activist, Drew Hernandez.
At an age of censorship, he's still able to break through.
I think he's probably had, I saw, 50 million views of his reports the last...
Weak!
dan friesen
So we've talked about Drew Hernandez a little bit in the past.
He's one of the people I've collectively referred to as the baby reporters who show up on InfoWars from time to time, along with Savannah Hernandez and Patrick Howley.
There are people who give me a distinct vibe of angry immaturity that's being enabled and boosted by right-wing media outlets like Alex.
And for Drew and Savannah, they use Turning Point USA as well.
Howley probably isn't welcome at TPUSA because of his more overt America First associations and almost comical anti-Semitism.
This facade dropped pretty quick, and it became clear that he was just trying to go out and get footage at protests that he could use to make Antifa bait for the right-wing media.
That's his whole stock and trade.
This culminated in him being a defense witness in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial, which is a little bit weird considering he was on the payroll of the right-wing media outlet Real America's Voice at the time, and he didn't actually see the shootings.
jordan holmes
I can't believe that people don't trust the American justice system.
It's so weird.
dan friesen
Drew is essentially somebody who saw the success and profitability of what Andy Ngo was doing and got into the same lane.
His work is meaningless, and it's just meant to incite based on distorting reality with selective editing and telling half stories.
Further, he's intensely boring, and he's not good at talking.
I heard his name come up.
I almost turned this episode off, but I decided to keep going only because Alex was still allegedly taking calls and some of these weirdos are worth the time.
Maybe somebody else has a clown horn.
jordan holmes
Hey, maybe they've got a clown horn.
No, no, no.
I'm with you.
I get where you're coming from.
Once you hear clown horn, there's always the hope of more clown horn.
dan friesen
Gotta keep digging.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, totally.
dan friesen
And so...
jordan holmes
What kind of asshole looks at Andy Ngo and is like, I can be a piece of shit too!
Like, that's crazy.
What a piece of shit.
dan friesen
If you're thinking about...
How difficult the work is, which it's not.
It's very easy.
Maybe you get a milkshake thrown at you or something.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and you get to make hay out of that.
dan friesen
That's what I'm saying.
jordan holmes
That's practically a win.
dan friesen
Easy work, lots of money, lots of attention.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's hard to say no.
dan friesen
Right.
If you're just some shithead, it's actually pretty attractive.
jordan holmes
It really, yeah.
I can't believe so many people get into multi-level marketing schemes whenever what you could do is just be a giant piece of shit online.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, here's the problem.
There's only so many spots, really, in that world.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
The bar for entry is really low.
Like, in terms of what requirements are necessary, the talent is not really all that important.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
You don't have to really know much.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And a lot of people can do that, so these spots are easy to fill.
Yeah.
But there's a finite amount of time on Tucker for people, you know, getting called up to Carson's couch of fascism going on Tucker.
jordan holmes
You're right.
And it does, you know, without the monoculture, you don't get catapulted into stardom overnight anymore, you know?
It's tough.
It's tough.
I get it.
dan friesen
But there's still, like, even if you can't make yourself into, like, a really high-level person in this game, there's still a lot of money to be made on that con.
jordan holmes
Yeah, some bargain stochastic terrorists.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just getting on the Talking Point, Turning Point USA rotations and what have you.
So anyway, Alex and Drew are mad about elections.
drew hernandez
Here are we in 2022.
We are probably as advanced as we've ever been.
As a country, the United States of America, a superpower for now, and we cannot conduct an election fairly and securely in a single day?
alex jones
And what you're saying is completely key and central and paramount.
Biden said last night, it's the way we've always done it.
It always takes days or longer to know who won.
No, that didn't happen until now.
Back when we had paper ballots, the local precinct counts it in the 60s and 70s and 80s.
Everybody combines it.
We had pretty free elections then.
Now there's these machines and mail-in ballots.
jordan holmes
Why do we have free elections then?
alex jones
This is ridiculously obvious.
dan friesen
None of that's true.
That's full of shit.
But also, doesn't Drew sound like a baby?
jordan holmes
He really does.
He really does.
dan friesen
Sounds like he's a guy who's out reporting and his suit's just a little too big.
But yeah, the phenomenon that Alex is discussing is really just based on his feelings.
And it's because of the way, I mean, it's at least partially contributed to by social media, the way that everybody's clamoring for information, and the way that the media now covers these elections like sports contests.
You know, those kinds of influences make it feel like we should have things immediately.
And it distorts your memories of how things were in the past.
It's pretty regular for elections to not really be fully counted until the next day or days later.
It has nothing to do with the electronicness of it.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
I mean, I just...
I don't care.
Because if you're going to make that argument, we saw Brazil...
Just do an election overnight, right?
So if you're complaining about that, then just say, let's change it to do what somebody else does, instead of being like, wow, this country's over, I think we should do fascism.
There's a bit of a difference.
dan friesen
Sure, sure.
Well, I guess I was going to say hostile partisanship also plays a role, but that exists in Brazil, too.
jordan holmes
But I mean, also, it's kind of why we can't do that now, because hostile partisanship wasn't bad enough whenever they started the thing.
But hostile partisanship was a former dictatorship back then, so yeah.
dan friesen
But here, you have tons of people who just, like, you can't concede anything.
Like races that would have probably been conceded 30 years ago.
Are never conceded now.
There is such polarization that many races are fairly close.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And a lot of these things do contribute to how voting goes.
Also, absentee ballots, there can be certification of those.
There's a lot of stuff that Alex is trying to pretend aren't real factors.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I don't know.
It's just a way of invalidating.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
And I mean, literally the only time in my lifetime that I can think, well, the only time I can think of in the past hundred years that an election was actually stolen, it was the same way that the other elections have been stolen, which is the Supreme Court or a bunch of rich white dudes got together and were like, here's what we'll do.
Democracy fucked up this time.
How about you get one and I get one and we call it the day?
dan friesen
Also, that one took a long time.
jordan holmes
Took a long time to steal that election.
dan friesen
Thanks, Roger.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, Drew.
unidentified
Ooh.
dan friesen
So they talk a little bit more about Biden's comments about how it'll take a while to count.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Drew gets pretty mad about this.
jordan holmes
Sure, he's very angry.
alex jones
They are running the exact same blueprint of two years ago.
How do we stop this?
How is this the same blueprint?
drew hernandez
Alex, I'll say this is, I mean, in the perspective of propaganda, right?
Number one, the elites, they view themselves as higher, more intellectual gods of the universe.
So these people come out and they say what they're going to do before they do it preemptively because, number one, for the sake of propaganda, because they need to put out this narrative one week ahead of time.
And at the same time, they're literally jailing the true to vote leaders that were behind the 2000 Mules movie that exposed their geo tracking.
What was going on during 2020?
Oh, how convenient.
They're shutting them down.
They're censoring all kinds of people on social media while at the.
simultaneously for people to accept the fact that this upcoming midterm is going to take days, possibly weeks to come to a conclusion.
Why?
unidentified
Because they need to set the propaganda they need to set the stage first There are millions of people in this country, not the viewers, but these moron, woke-tart idiots that believe these elites and whatever they say is gospel.
drew hernandez
Number one, that's why they do it.
Number two, they do it, Alex, because they know they can.
Because they view themselves more powerful, more greater, as a god, as if their word is literally gospel and is the end of all things.
Whatever they say goes in the future.
dan friesen
This guy's one of the best talk show hosts, huh?
jordan holmes
Man, if that is your audition, I'm sending you back to the minors, you know?
Yeah.
You're not good at getting angry.
dan friesen
I sound whiny.
But I see some potential there.
jordan holmes
Sure!
dan friesen
You know, he has the confidence.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
That's required.
jordan holmes
And that takes more than...
Yeah, that's more than...
dan friesen
You can't teach that.
jordan holmes
You really can't.
dan friesen
And, um...
If I'm in Alex's position, I find that a little admirable.
But yeah, his swing is bad.
He doesn't have a good arm.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Sounds like an angry baby.
jordan holmes
Can't run for shit.
Yeah, I don't think...
dan friesen
He's fucking up like half of the words he's saying.
jordan holmes
Oh man, he's so whiny and he doesn't get the...
unidentified
You know what's weird?
jordan holmes
He doesn't get the anger though.
It comes off more like, these guys are doing things!
dan friesen
It's a petulant anger that doesn't feel rooted in any principle or meaning.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it's really weird.
He's whiffing a lot of words.
He's whiffing a lot of phrasing.
It doesn't feel like nerves.
It's not like, hey, I'm in the big leagues here or anything.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
He just doesn't have the chops.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he just doesn't have it.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, maybe if he has another 10 years to work on shit, but...
dan friesen
But maybe he's just exhausted from doing a lot of hard work.
That does not sound true.
Oh, he's done some work.
jordan holmes
That sounds...
drew hernandez
I'll say this as well.
When I was at Barack Obama's rally last night in Phoenix before I told him, one thing that I heard continually and consistently throughout all the Democrat candidates, they're making mail-in voting some kind of trendy thing.
It's kind of cringe, but at the same time, because their face is so stupid and low IQ and doesn't think anything through, they just believe whatever they say, They've made mail-in voting like some kind of new technological trendy thing that everyone should just be a part of and doing.
It's really weird how they've done that.
alex jones
And let's explain how that, and that's what Biden said last night.
He said, we've always done this.
No, we haven't.
Sure, absentee, that's on record who you are.
No, these are huge pools of votes they can grab and manipulate.
They know exactly what they're doing.
drew hernandez
Exactly.
They play on people's laziness.
They play on people's low IQ because they're naive.
They don't think these things through.
dan friesen
So Drew didn't troll Obama.
What did he do?
He attended a rally that Obama was speaking at in Arizona, and he wouldn't stop yelling while Obama was speaking, so he got kicked out of the event, while Obama told him he needed to be polite and that if he wanted to speak so bad, he should set up his own rally.
He got some attention for that, but unfortunately he didn't get invited to go on Tucker to talk about how his free speech was stifled, and that proves that Obama's a tyrant, but better luck next time.
Maybe it'll work out, and this is what we call journalism.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Wow.
unidentified
I mean, that's just this business model.
dan friesen
You know?
That's what he does.
He goes to, like, an event.
Like, basically, if this were the past, he would have been the person who was in Alex's yell Bill Clinton's a rapist contest.
You know, that's the level of work that he's doing.
It's kind of sad.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
But hey, it is what it is.
jordan holmes
I just...
You can't be a Nazi and say cringe.
You can't be a Nazi and be like, oh, it's very cringe.
Like, no, you're a fascist.
Come on, man.
Stop this.
dan friesen
I think that it sounds a little cringey to call things, like, voting cringe.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But also, I understand that I'm aged out of slang.
So, like, it's hard for me to judge.
That too much.
He's from another generation.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
I understand, but I can't handle TikTok fascists.
I can't do this like...
dan friesen
You're gonna have to.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't want fascist dances.
I don't want anybody being like, oh, the oligarchy's on fleek.
Like, I don't need any of this shit.
You know, I can't be having this.
dan friesen
Don't use my bit.
jordan holmes
I'm taking your bit.
Come on.
Sorry, it was the first word that popped into my head.
That's how bad I am at slang.
That was the first one that came to me.
dan friesen
Should I reveal...
This is private.
I don't know if this is putting you on blast here.
jordan holmes
Okay, go for it.
Put me on blast.
dan friesen
You do respond to some texts that I send you with cool beans.
jordan holmes
I do.
I love saying cool beans till I die.
That'll never go out of style, my man.
dan friesen
I think that one's a little older.
They don't fleek.
jordan holmes
Hell yeah, it is.
I thought cool beans was all the way back from Simpsons in the 90s, man.
dan friesen
I remember people at K-Life when I was in church saying Cool Beans.
jordan holmes
So that would have been when I was like 14. Cool Beans might be Dennis the fucking Menace for all I know.
Could be from the 40s.
dan friesen
So anyway, the Pool Watchers, the Mule Watchers come back up.
And Alex and Drew love them.
drew hernandez
They're setting the narrative because it's going to become a mainstream narrative.
Right now they say things here and there.
They kind of test it out.
They try it on the public.
They get all the stupid people and the mindless lemmings to believe this stuff.
And I'm telling you, it will be full force that this will become a thing.
alex jones
And you know anybody that actually videotapes the fraud will be jailed.
drew hernandez
Jailed, indicted, canceled.
Targeted by the FBI, targeted by the three-letter agencies, declared a domestic terrorist.
This is what they'll say, too.
A threat to democracy, right?
Being an individual that cares.
And it doesn't matter whether you're on the right or the left.
This is what the left doesn't understand.
If you care about your voter process and you show up watching a ballot box throughout the night, they'll come after you and accuse you of being a domestic terrorist and a threat to democracy.
This is what the left doesn't get.
It's not about left or right.
It's about the regime at the top that wants to control all of us because these globalists and satanists are real.
And they want to control elections because they want to control the people.
We have no democracy.
They're always talking about democracy, Alex.
Democracy, democracy, democracy.
Okay, well, what about Klaus Schwab?
Who the hell elected that guy?
What about Bill Gates?
Who the hell elected that guy?
What about the World Economic Forum?
Making decisions on behalf of the United States of America in the West on foreign soil.
unidentified
What about that?
drew hernandez
Is that democratic?
Is that democracy?
Of course it's not.
Why?
unidentified
Because all these Democrats are in the palm, in the palm of the world economic forum and these globalists, even some right-wing rhinos are as well.
drew hernandez
And I'll say this, Alex.
jordan holmes
No.
Who could have guessed?
drew hernandez
Is a threat to the Republic right now.
And I'm not talking about responding with violence.
I'm just saying it needs to be addressed, period.
alex jones
All right.
unidentified
Woo!
jordan holmes
Woo!
Oh, man.
dan friesen
So that's an example of the, like, you can't do the yelling thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
It's...
dan friesen
Like, when Alex yells, it's like, ha-ha!
It's false.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But at the same time, it feels right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
With this...
This dude yelling, you want to respond to it like, calm down.
drew hernandez
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Calm down.
dan friesen
You don't want to tell Alex to calm down necessarily.
jordan holmes
No, you're like, keep on going, man.
dan friesen
I'm not sure I have that response.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, I wouldn't go there.
dan friesen
At least it's like, this will pass.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
He's just having a little bit of a flourish.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I kind of kept being like, oh, you're cute when you try.
That's also not my response.
He's a tiny little boy.
I feel like he's sitting on top of another him wearing a trench coat.
And that's how they're doing.
dan friesen
Yep.
Baby reporter.
jordan holmes
They're twins!
dan friesen
Anyway, that rant is a really good illustration of why I called this guy a baby.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is some childish shit, and his analysis of the situation and the relationship between the World Economic Forum and the government is non-existent.
There's no analysis.
He knows he's supposed to be mad about this stuff and at these people because that's what the right-wing media audience eats up, so he does it.
It's performative outrage, and there's nothing really behind it.
He even trips himself up about the whole idea that we have no democracy at the end there because he knows...
It's not that there's no democracy in the country, it's that the Democrats and the Republicans that I don't like are puppets of the World Economic Forum.
This kind of destroys the whole premise that there's no democracy, because if you were able to get the support, you could unseat those Democrats and bad Republicans and only elect people who are hostile to Klaus Schwab.
It doesn't matter that he's basically contradicted himself in the course of a minute because the actual things he's saying don't really mean anything.
It's about eliciting an emotional response and then directing those emotions into negative feelings towards your political enemies.
It's something Alex does a bit better and less transparently than Drew, but Drew's young and also has no discernible convictions past getting attention, so it makes sense that Alex would be better at it.
Also, poll watching is totally fine.
There are tons of poll watchers who operate within acceptable guidelines.
What's not okay is voter intimidation, which is what Drew and Alex are defending.
This has become popular in Alex's crew since at least 2015, but wasn't much of an issue before that because he didn't really have strong convictions about presidential candidates.
Ron Paul never made it out of a primary, so it never really was an issue.
In the lead-up to the 2016 election, Larry Nichols was on the show stressing the need for armed groups to be outside every polling place, and he made an effort to organize around this.
In 2020, these ideas continued to circulate heavily in right-wing media, and Roger Stone made some pushes in that the original Stop the Steal ideas.
And clearly, these were not attempts to defend election integrity.
They were thinly disguised motivations to make people scared to vote.
This is happening again this cycle, because of course it is.
In Mesa, Arizona, armed individuals with their faces covered were seen patrolling, leading to a Trump-backed group called Clean Elections USA being ordered by the court to stay at least 75 feet from drop boxes and ordered not to follow or speak to voters.
This is because they were doing that shit.
Voters reported people watching them from hiding in bushes, people watching them with binoculars, and even taking photos of voters' license plates.
One voter reported to the DOJ, And here's the thing.
I totally understand the vigilantes doing this voter intimidation.
If they truly believe the bullshit that folks like Alex and Drew yell about day after day, why wouldn't they harass people at the polls and ballot boxes?
They have to believe that the election is being stolen and to not do something like what they're doing would be to let that happen.
These people are wrong and what they're doing is horrible, but it's the natural conclusion of the rhetoric that Alex and Tucker use every day.
If you believe the things that these demagogues say, These actions make total sense.
And this is the problem.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
If you believe that, say, somebody is super evil, acting without any consequences, and there's no one who will hold them accountable, maybe you think the only way to do it is to go to their house and smash their fucking kneecaps.
You know?
Like, these are things that make sense.
It's just insane.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's just insane.
You're...
dan friesen
So anyway, we have one last clip here, because I grew bored of this baby, and they didn't get back to Caldas for a while, and by that time, the charm of the guy with the clown horn had kind of worn off.
jordan holmes
Yeah, listening to him whine has really taken the sails out of that clown horn.
dan friesen
Well, here he whines about the devil.
Well, that's fine.
jordan holmes
Kind of a clown horn.
drew hernandez
I think it's a continual controlled demolition from within of our society.
And the number one thing that takes down a society, a democracy or a constitutional Republic or any functioning, uh, Money?
on planet Earth, is a voting process.
When you take that away, that is the voice of the people.
And when you begin to sabotage that, that is taking away the voice of the people.
So these people know that.
They're far, far advanced enough to understand that this is how it works in foreign countries that are communist, that are globalist, that are socialist.
They know that the only way to truly take away power from the people is to take away their vote and also to take away their voice.
That's why censorship and election meddling and fraud and tampering go hand in hand for a totalitarian regime because those two things need to be functioning simultaneously in order to have a healthy society or a healthy group of people here on planet Earth.
These globalists, these people, they know this because they're all energized by Satan and Lucifer.
What I mean by that is Lucifer, Satan, has been around longer than us for a very long time.
unidentified
How long?
Has studied human behavior for thousands of years.
drew hernandez
Has studied how to manipulate the human mind.
Has studied how to manipulate human emotion.
Has studied how to manipulate societies to do his bidding to get into the palm of his hand and to get human beings possessed.
dan friesen
Jordan, you look a little bit frustrated, and I don't understand why, because this guy is spitting hot fire.
You understand that the devil has been around for a long time, and he's been studying people, and what he's come to the conclusion is that in order to destroy society, you have to get rid of elections and kick people off social media.
jordan holmes
I just have never heard someone that really talk before.
dan friesen
You know what the devil learned?
Shadow banning.
jordan holmes
Let me ask you a question, Dan.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
If you've got an ultimate evil, alright?
Strongest evil.
Second only to God.
dan friesen
Like the devil and Lucifer?
jordan holmes
Like the devil and Lucifer.
Unholy duo.
Holy Trinity.
You know how it goes.
dan friesen
Beelzebub.
Old Scratch.
jordan holmes
Old Scratchy-do.
drew hernandez
Howdy!
unidentified
Old Uncle Howdy.
jordan holmes
Why is he studying so much?
Why is the devil studying?
What kind of idiot are you?
dan friesen
I don't...
Oh, man.
Yeah.
I feel like it wouldn't take that long if you were the devil to figure out how to push buttons.
jordan holmes
What?
In early humanity, the devil was like, hey, maybe if I give people candy, they'll do whatever.
dan friesen
The devil was still formulating a lot of these ideas because social media didn't exist at the time.
jordan holmes
It wasn't until social media...
dan friesen
That's when it clicked.
jordan holmes
If his argument is that the only way social media could exist is if there was the devil...
I might believe that one.
dan friesen
That's not the argument that he's making.
jordan holmes
No, it's not.
dan friesen
Social media itself is good, but shadow banning is the work of the devil.
jordan holmes
See, no, I'm gonna go with it's all the devil, man.
dan friesen
Also, I am definitely gonna include Uncle Howdy as a nickname for the devil.
jordan holmes
Uncle Howdy is a nickname for the devil, for sure.
All Uncle Howdy.
dan friesen
This dude.
Is a disaster.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But I see him get it, and I actually, you know, I could see Alex wanting to hire him, but he already has a thing with Turning Point.
So, like, I can't see him attaching himself to Alex for anything other than, like, greater attention.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Coming on here is good for him, because he's just like, oh, get the word out or whatever.
Tucker's not calling.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But, um, yeah.
Ooh.
He's actually, it's weird to think.
He's actually probably better situated than Alex right now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
In terms of, like, longevity.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Alex is asking people to sell their fucking cars for him.
jordan holmes
That is a good point.
unidentified
That is a good point.
dan friesen
Can you imagine turning on CNN?
jordan holmes
I just, I don't know.
dan friesen
Wolf Blitzer.
jordan holmes
Guys, I'm sorry.
Brian Seltzer, his show is going to get canceled if he doesn't get you to sell your car and give it to him.
dan friesen
I need seven of you to sell your boats in order to keep me on air.
Alright, Stelter, we gotta go.
jordan holmes
Stelter is asking for 8 million in Bitcoin today.
dan friesen
To be fair, Alex did not necessarily ask for that.
jordan holmes
That's true, he didn't ask for that specifically.
dan friesen
At least not on air.
Or maybe he did.
Maybe he did.
Maybe I just didn't hear that episode.
unidentified
Could be.
dan friesen
Anyway, we come to the end of this and, boy, a lot of important stuff happening before the midterms.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
False flag still coming, apparently.
jordan holmes
Are we still doing the midterms?
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Actually, this episode comes out on Monday.
dan friesen
Tuesday is the election.
Please think about your vote.
It is important.
Maybe we'll not usher in the devil, but there's a lot of difference between the Democrats and the Republicans.
jordan holmes
Could be quite a bit at the end of the day.
dan friesen
So that is still happening.
I guess we're going to keep our eye out for false flags and a Biden assassination, which Alex has promised is going to happen.
jordan holmes
I'm assuming Chicago's getting nuked.
That's my...
I mean, frankly, that's my retirement plan.
Alex is going to be right about one thing.
dan friesen
We're overdue, certainly, on a number of nukings.
But maybe Alex knows that that is the work of aliens, and he shouldn't go anywhere near it.
jordan holmes
That's true!
Oh, the radiation.
Australia.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
All coming together.
All of it.
Boop, boop, boop, boop.
That really was a breath of fresh air.
dan friesen
Yep.
Anyway, we'll be back, Jordan, with another episode.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge on our fight.
unidentified
And...
dan friesen
I've seen you tweet.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
You're tweeting normally now.
You're not even...
jordan holmes
No, it's mornings.
I get angry.
I get mad at the mornings.
dan friesen
If you're up in the AM, check out Jordan on Twitter.
You could do a morning plug.
jordan holmes
I might.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
Well, one of these days, you'll be back to saying you're actually on Twitter.
jordan holmes
Maybe.
dan friesen
But for now, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZXClark.
I have a cardboard box.
unidentified
Ooh.
dan friesen
It's very well situated downtown.
jordan holmes
I was thinking Igloo.
dan friesen
Ooh, Igloo's not bad.
jordan holmes
Igloo's the way to go.
dan friesen
A wigwam?
unidentified
Is that offensive?
jordan holmes
I think it's still just a name.
dan friesen
Okay.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Either way, I'm done.
I'm done.
I'm coming up with something else.
I need a funny name.
jordan holmes
Good call.
dan friesen
Anyway, next time.
Next time.
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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