Today, Dan and Jordan discuss the beginning of Alex's trial in Connecticut, and what's going on in the Infowars studio while the case plays out. In this installment, Alex gets petty about his books sales, Tucker gets petty about Alex's book sales, and Alex covers Tucker getting petty about Alex's book sales. Citations Dreamy Creamy Fundraiser
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| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| Dan and Jordan. | ||
| Knowledge. | ||
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Fight. | |
| I need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
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Stop it. | |
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your room. | ||
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Knowledge Fight. | |
| Knowledgefight.com. | ||
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I love you. | |
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are. | ||
| Dan. | ||
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Jordan. | |
| Dan. | ||
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Jordan. | |
| Quick question for you. | ||
| Come with me and you'll see a bright spot. | ||
| I didn't Prepare a pair of songs. | ||
| I was going to say, I'm waiting for you to run out of gas on this one. | ||
| That's why. | ||
| My bright spot is my Wonka games are paying off. | ||
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The first golden ticket button has been found. | |
| It was found by Juniper in Vermont. | ||
| So congratulations, Juniper. | ||
| This is very, very exciting. | ||
| I can't wait to see where these other ones turn up. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Because I am not rigging this thing. | ||
| No, obviously. | ||
| I have, as you can see, there's like boxes of buttons, and I'm putting them in bags, and then just taking them out, taking the bags, putting them in the envelope. | ||
| Could go anywhere. | ||
| We've got buttons going to Japan. | ||
| We've got... | ||
| Too many buttons go to Scotland, quite frankly. | ||
| We gotta move to Scotland. | ||
| They love us there. | ||
| I'm waiting for you to have to hire somebody whose eyes are sewn shut, who's lost feeling in their fingers in order to choose the correct buttons and put them in the right place. | ||
| I have a non-problematic team of Oompa Loompas. | ||
| Like a Yakuza boss. | ||
| So, this is very exciting. | ||
| And, you know, as a part of this, I want to say to Juniper, Brother John. | ||
| Congratulations! | ||
| Well, the Brother John just got laid off. | ||
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Oh, shit! | |
| And I want to take this opportunity to say, chin up, John. | ||
| Oof. | ||
| Keep yourself on the... | ||
| Keep your spirits high. | ||
| You know, hey, it's bad times when you lose a job. | ||
| Being unemployed sucks. | ||
| Unfortunately, our golden tickets don't wind up with you owning a factory. | ||
| That is not a thing. | ||
| We are not job creators. | ||
| I wish I could give you a button factory. | ||
| Or a candy factory, or whatever. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| But, hey, I think that when I look back on my life, a lot of times, there were times that I lost jobs and it felt like the worst thing in the fucking world, but it ended up being positive. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Eventually. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, you find some other job, and maybe you never would have had the opportunity to find that other better job later. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So, John... | ||
| Keep your eyes to the stars. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I have no idea why that one came out. | ||
| Well, it's because I am not somebody who's good at expressing optimism. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| It's a struggle. | ||
| On a deep level. | ||
| Things will get the same, John. | ||
| Things will maintain or get worse. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Great message. | ||
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Anyway, congratulations, Juniper. | |
| Jordan, what's your bright spot? | ||
| My bright spot, I'm going to keep with the theme of cartoons. | ||
| Harley Quinn just finished its third season, and it's a really good cartoon. | ||
| Start from this place. | ||
| Imagine the old classic Batman the Animated Series with Kevin Conroy, one of the best cartoons of all time. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| Real, just legendary art style. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| You could just see it. | ||
| Yeah, the whole thing. | ||
| Imagine if you started with that show, but from the premise that... | ||
| We have landed on now where Batman is a billionaire destroying the world by using his money only to serve his weird game. | ||
| So start from that point of view and then make Batman the animated series fantastic. | ||
| It's really, really great. | ||
| Batman's a piece of shit. | ||
| It's so good. | ||
| Commissioner Gordon is the absolute worst. | ||
| ACAB all day. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Like, it is a very... | ||
| That sounds interesting. | ||
| I rarely check things out, but maybe I will check that out, because that vibe sounds... | ||
| The only problem that I have, I have not seen this show, so I'm not entirely sure, but... | ||
| Sure. | ||
| There's a pervy preoccupation with Harley Quinn that I'm not comfortable with. | ||
| Oh, totally, totally. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And the centerpiece is a relationship between her and Poison Ivy, which people have taken too creepy, but I would argue that it's actually been way more of just a positive representation kind of situation. | ||
| It's not always the creator's intent, and the source material isn't always the problem. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| You're not wrong. | ||
| You are not wrong. | ||
| Also, Ron Funches is in it. | ||
| He's a great voice. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| It's a great show! | ||
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All right. | |
| Check it out! | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we have what was not a great show that is Alex's show and then also Alex's trial that has begun in Connecticut to discuss. | ||
| So we're going to be talking about the 13th and 14th, which is Tuesday and Wednesday of this week. | ||
| We're going to talk a little bit about the court case. | ||
| We're going to listen to a little bit of some clips. | ||
| And then Alex's shows from those days. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And get a little sense of what he's up to while all this is going down. | ||
| I bet he's comporting himself with a certain level of respect that he hasn't shown in the past, right? | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| He's classy. | ||
| But before we get into anything, and even before we talk about the Wonks, I wanted to say, we don't usually talk about this sort of logistical stuff on air all that much, but today we were set to record at a certain point. | ||
| And I needed to push back half an hour. | ||
| And Jordan, you accommodate me when these things come up from time to time. | ||
| And I really just wanted to say... | ||
| Thank you, Jordan. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| I just wanted to say... | ||
| Thank you, Jordan. | ||
| I really, really, really don't appreciate it. | ||
| Because eventually Alex will be gone and all that will be left is your soundboard. | ||
| I mean, here's what's going to happen. | ||
| We're going to return to the beginning. | ||
| Eventually there will be 50 people listening. | ||
| Because it's just going to be you and me as old men with you just playing soundbites at me. | ||
| And us giggling. | ||
| If possible, yeah. | ||
| That's the goal. | ||
| That's the end goal. | ||
| You really thought I was going somewhere sincere with that, didn't you? | ||
| I kind of did. | ||
| Until I turned to the computer and grabbed the mouse. | ||
| Until then it was all over. | ||
| And then it was all over. | ||
| But thank you for accommodating my time schedule anyway. | ||
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Sure, sure. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So, we got an episode to do, but first, let's say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| Oh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, Bobby, a.k.a. | ||
| The Other Shane, thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Next, hero to the squash. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much, liar! | ||
| Next, my fiancée Emily, because she gets annoyed when I come to bed and turn this on to sleep from Laura Elise. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| That's a free bit of marriage counseling for you. | ||
| Fair. | ||
| Don't play this in bed to fall asleep to. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| It's not courteous. | ||
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Nope. | |
| Next, this is a cat. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Felix Double Helix. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| And Butter... | ||
| Ooh, this could go either way. | ||
| This could be Buttercupia or Buttercupia. | ||
| I'm not sure, but either way, you're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk! | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you, and we've got a couple of technocrats here, Jordan. | ||
| So first, Sesquitz has no heroes. | ||
| You are now a technocrat, thank you. | ||
| And this... | ||
| I'm delayed on this, and I'm very sorry about that, but Marcy the Wubbie Bear, thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| I have risen above my enemies. | ||
| I might quit tomorrow, actually. | ||
| I'm just going to take a little breaky now. | ||
| A little breaky for me. | ||
| And then we're going to come back. | ||
| And I'm going to start the show over. | ||
| But I'm the devil! | ||
| I've got to be taken over here! | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| I got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your new world order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit. | ||
| Maybe today should be my last broadcast. | ||
| Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. | ||
| Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again. | ||
| That's really what I want to do. | ||
| I never want to come back here again. | ||
| I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. | ||
| I'll be better tomorrow. | ||
| He's not. | ||
| No, I didn't think so. | ||
| So, Jordan, I wanted to say, we got the Connecticut case started. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And we've been watching the stream. | ||
| And texting back and forth quite a bit. | ||
| I think we both came into this with the plan of like, eh, I don't know if I'm going to watch the whole thing this time. | ||
| And yeah, we've basically been sitting in front of it. | ||
| Yeah, because it's a little bit different. | ||
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It is! | |
| I actually, I would say for my defense, I came in with the perspective of I don't want to do this again. | ||
| Last time was a lot. | ||
| And I was very concerned about redundancy. | ||
| Like things being like, ah, this is the same thing again. | ||
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Right. | |
| But it's... | ||
| It's not. | ||
| It's a different beast than the Austin situation. | ||
| First, there's a lot more plaintiffs. | ||
| Second, the case accuses Alex of slightly different violations and has a bit more to do with the business end of his operations. | ||
| So there's a bit more there, a bit more meat that you can look at. | ||
| Then third, and most importantly, Norm Pattis is a completely different brand of lawyer than Ray Nall, Alex's representation in Texas. | ||
| We've long wondered why it is exactly that Norm is Alex's lawyer. | ||
| He seems like a mope, generally, and he's a really embarrassing loser outside the courtroom. | ||
| What with his stand-up adventure, which... | ||
| It was actually so bad that there's no need to list a second thing here in this list. | ||
| No, no, no, that's the end. | ||
| It's real bad. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, once you do that, you're that forever. | ||
| You should get woke insurance. | ||
| It's a little bit, you know, like, oh, I've been a bricklayer for 30 years, but you fuck one monkey and they call you monkey fucker Jim, you know? | ||
| They never call you bricklayer Jim. | ||
| They call you pants down, racial slur guy. | ||
| Exactly, yes, exactly. | ||
| Norm gets paid because he will do anything. | ||
| He's a mercenary with a law degree, and he doesn't give a shit how awful the things he's saying sound or who they hurt. | ||
| That became crystal clear on day one, and it really gave me a sense that as bad as Alex's lawyer was in Austin, he at least had some boundaries. | ||
| It didn't seem like it at the time, until I saw Norm, and realized how shitty Reynold could have been if he had wanted to. | ||
| It is crazy. | ||
| So, we're gonna start today by looking a bit at Norm's opening statement, and a couple of particularly shitty things that happened, and then we're gonna tune in to see what Alex was doing while this was happening. | ||
| Sure, simultaneously. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's always good whenever there is simultaneous, like, you can put up side-by-side broadcasts of a man being sued into oblivion and a man being like, we're winning our asses off. | ||
| Things are pretty good. | ||
| Things are great. | ||
| All things considered. | ||
| Things are great. | ||
| Also, there's a tweet I want to yell about. | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| The most important tweet. | ||
| Fine. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So, here is a little bit from Norm's opening. | ||
| And the sound isn't great on this, I have to say. | ||
| There's a... | ||
| You know, it's from the law and crime. | ||
| Yeah, I think it's law and crime. | ||
| Not law and order. | ||
| But there's like some sort of room tone. | ||
| Yeah, there's some artifacts. | ||
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Your job is to decide if Mr. Jones is responsible for all they are claiming. | |
| In other words, we claim that their claims are exaggerated. | ||
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And if they can prove to you... | |
| That he's caused them all the harm they claimed. | ||
| Then give them a sum that compensates them for that. | ||
| They've suggested your job is to punish Alex Jones, and you won't hear that from the judge. | ||
| They hate him because he says outrageous things, and the haters want to silence. | ||
| Each of you has chosen to be here today to compensate them for their grief. | ||
| And you're being asked to make an example of Alex. | ||
| Money is their weapon of choice. | ||
| Award enough that you might summon or you might silence Alex Jones. | ||
| He was mocked. | ||
| They're coming! | ||
| The planners and their council hope they're here and it's you. | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| First of all, just being so blunt as to be like, we're just going to say their claims are exaggerated. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's... | ||
| Hey, listen. | ||
| That's fun. | ||
| Last time we tried to red pill the jury and say that maybe we didn't actually do it, and this time we're like, hey, sure we did it! | ||
| Fuck yeah we did it! | ||
| We're already guilty, but it wasn't that bad! | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
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Come on! | |
| It is the come on defense. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I think it takes a certain level of callowness to... | ||
| to say something like that out loud. | ||
| And one of the things that I noticed is that Norm did have a bit of a faulty delivery. | ||
| There was moments where it almost felt like he was thinking, am I going to say this? | ||
| But I might be attributing that to him unfairly based on what he Like, the way he ends up comporting himself. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| I don't believe he was, like, worried about saying these things. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I think he was underprepared. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I mean, in my thought process, I didn't see that so much as Occam's razor told me that, like, he's just kind of winging it a little bit. | ||
| I've seen him do stand-up. | ||
| His delivery is not great. | ||
| He's throwing it. | ||
| He doesn't have much. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, Norm, he does make basically this accusation that they're partisan hacks, the plaintiffs. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Why these parents? | ||
| Why not the children of the others who never filed suit in Connecticut or Texas? | ||
| You will learn that each of the parents and family members here transformed their grief and rage over the death of a loved one into a powerful and effective motive for causing gun violence and promoting school safety. | ||
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And who would you want to know? | |
| Who can blame them? | ||
| They're members of interest groups. | ||
| They hold vigils. | ||
| They testify before Congress and state lawmakers. | ||
| They've become partisans. | ||
| They've walked into a divisive debate about guns in the Second Amendment and the extent to which the state should be more aggressive in making a safer madman. | ||
| Do they overstate the harm that Alex caused them? | ||
| Because they want to silence him for political reasons? | ||
| because he disagrees with their point of view. | ||
| I would suggest to you that is the case. | ||
| We'll argue that. | ||
| Another objection? | ||
| Sustained. | ||
| Maybe with a sidebar, please. | ||
| Ooh. | ||
| Your Honor, okay. | ||
| So yes, my client murdered this person. | ||
| But he did. | ||
| We saw the evidence. | ||
| He did fight back. | ||
| Is he a victim? | ||
| Obviously not. | ||
| There is a, basically, what he's putting forth here is essentially saying that they put them I'm just going to use Alex's shit with law stuff. | ||
| I'm just gonna swing as hard and in the direction Alex wants, and I'm gonna use the words and tactics that I've learned in law school. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's fucked up. | ||
| It felt like Raynal was trying to transmute Alex's bullshit into something that you could... | ||
| Ass in a courtroom. | ||
| And Norma's like... | ||
| You just put a powdered wig on Alex's bullshit. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Norma's just like, hey, guess what? | ||
| I'm a barrister. | ||
| And I'm gonna say some bullshit. | ||
| That's what's gonna happen. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| It is a mess. | ||
| Yeah, it's not great. | ||
| I think that this also is inappropriate for the damages portion, which is obviously why we have some of these objections. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| As Chris Meddy, the plaintiff's lawyer here, is contesting, this is an attempt to unravel the default judgment. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Relitigated in a place where it is inappropriate. | ||
| It is a bit like, no, no, no, your honor. | ||
| See, he's a public figure. | ||
| No! | ||
| No! | ||
| We're past that! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so Norm continues to behave poorly after this sidebar. | ||
| Our contention, to be clear, is that the damage claims here are exaggerated because of the idiosyncratic motives of the plaintiffs, transforming their griefs into political weapons. | ||
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You'll have to decide whether that's true. | |
| But here's what you learned. | ||
| In 2016, Alice Jones became a household name again when a presidential candidate used him to derate her opponent and talked about Sandy Hook. | ||
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Hillary Clinton. | |
| She never got sued. | ||
| Objection, Your Honor. | ||
| Sustained. | ||
| Stop this, please. | ||
| Sustained. | ||
| Move on, Attorney Pattis, please. | ||
| How many times did you notice how many times I objected to tell you letting them tell their story? | ||
| Attorney Pattis, that is improper, and either finish your opening or be seated. | ||
| That was, in his opening statement, as I was watching, I was like, this is going to be bad. | ||
| This whole thing is gonna be bad. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Based on Norm's behavior, he clearly knows that this isn't appropriate. | ||
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And then his, how many times did I object? | |
| Like, that kind of a response in open court is like, this guy's unhinged. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This could go any number of directions. | ||
| As I described it to someone, I don't feel safe when I'm watching this. | ||
| Not that there's any threat to me personally, but I feel unwell. | ||
| Like, I'm not in good hands. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, there is... | ||
| You know, I appreciate how willing everyone else in the courtroom is to abide by, like, the, oh, I can't wear shorts. | ||
| You know, like, that kind of shit. | ||
| And he's just walking out here like... | ||
| Did you hear how many times I fucking objected? | ||
| How about that shit, judge? | ||
| Like, I mean, it's bananas how disrespectful he is to the judge. | ||
| It's wild. | ||
| Yeah, and I mean, we'll talk about that a little bit more later, but, you know, on the second day, he wasn't standing up to make objections. | ||
| Oh, man, it's so funny. | ||
| And, like, he had to be scolded about that, which is, I mean, that is a huge disrespect to the court. | ||
| I mean, I think some of the court procedure stuff is a little bit silly from the outside. | ||
| Hilariously stupid. | ||
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Right. | |
| But you've agreed to exist within this space. | ||
| You are a lawyer. | ||
| You know the rules. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And part of the rules are you respect the fucking court. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It is... | ||
| I mean, listen, I'm on your team. | ||
| If you want to be like, hey, standing up to object is fucking stupid. | ||
| We're all sitting down here. | ||
| This is fine. | ||
| If you want to argue that, I'm on your team. | ||
| We're past the time, though. | ||
| You've already been in court for hours. | ||
| A different setting, I'm hearing that argument 100% of the time, and I'm saying, hey. | ||
| I'm all about it. | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| It's too late now, man. | ||
| It's bizarre the way we do this stuff, and I'm not entirely sure why we do. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Halfway in the middle of a water slide, you're like, maybe we should add water to this. | ||
| You're already halfway down, man. | ||
| Yeah, that's on you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, he's been scolded about the Hillary Clinton angle, so he tries another one? | ||
| Yep. | ||
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Either finish your opening or be seated. | |
| In 2017, Matt Alex was interviewed by Megyn Kelly on NBC. | ||
| He worried it'd be a hit piece. | ||
| He sat for the interview. | ||
| It was a hit piece. | ||
| Megyn Kelly didn't get sued. | ||
| Alex got sued. | ||
| Objection to your honor. | ||
| Sustained Attorney Pettis. | ||
| I mean, it's just... | ||
| You know, as I was texting you, I'm like, he keeps swinging. | ||
| You know, there's something to be said for persistence. | ||
| You know, it's like my parents. | ||
| When I was a kid, I was very persistent about things. | ||
| Like being able to stay out to ride my bike or something. | ||
| I wouldn't get my way. | ||
| And my parents were very much like, this is bad. | ||
| You shouldn't do this. | ||
| But... | ||
| Persistence is a trait that may pay off in life. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Today? | ||
| That's how I feel with Norm. | ||
| It is a little Indiana Jones of the Last Crusade. | ||
| Like, you lost this one today, kid, and then he puts the hat on you and you're still trying to get it back into a museum 20 years later. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm with you. | ||
| In some context, persistence is a very admirable trait in this one. | ||
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No. | |
| I mean, I disagree, just from what I've seen level, because at a certain point, you can only say one more time and you're done, Mr. Pattis, before I don't give a shit anymore how many times you say one more time. | ||
| Because we've gotten a one more time literally every day. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| I think that the one more time maybe is a... | ||
| I'm being serious here. | ||
| But I think that giving a lot of wide berth to this, I think that that is still appropriate. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I've made this point before in these circumstances. | ||
| You don't want to do any... | ||
| These people are babies, so you don't want to give them the ability to credibly argue that they're being poorly treated. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| And so I think... | ||
| I think that you kind of have to act that way, which sucks. | ||
| There is a certain amount of, you're watching Wile E. Coyote run off the cliff, and he's still being a dick, and he's still running. | ||
| And you're like, there's nothing beneath you. | ||
| You've got to stop running. | ||
| But he just keeps running, and you're like, I guess I'm not going to be the one to tell him when the floor doesn't exist. | ||
| But sooner or later, the floor will not exist, and he's going to fall a long way. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I don't see much floor here, for sure. | ||
| There's just parts of this that I was like, I don't even know why he's saying these things. | ||
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At the end of the case, you know, you'll be asked to evaluate the evidence and ask what exactly they've proven. | |
| That it hurts to lose a loved one. | ||
| The world is filled with unhinged people. | ||
| We're becoming a failed state. | ||
| Alex is old, loud, brazen, often offensive, and a liar. | ||
| We can score on our side how many times they use the word lie. | ||
| Eight so far. | ||
| Liar, liar, pants on fire. | ||
| No shout enough. | ||
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We could respond by saying, and I ask you to consider this each time you hear the words. | |
| Six stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt you. | ||
| What is he even saying? | ||
| I mean, there is a... | ||
| First of all, there's a very bizarre admission that he seems to be making there that is like... | ||
| You gotta take it on face value that Alex is a liar. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, what are they gonna prove? | ||
| That losing a loved one hurts? | ||
| That Alex is a liar? | ||
| We know these things. | ||
| Duh! | ||
| Okay, so that's great. | ||
| Oh, is the sun up there? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay, so I guess it's hard to come back from that and be like, well, Alex is actually, you know, he's serious and he tells the truth. | ||
| But I'm sure Alex will try somehow to save this. | ||
| Or just ignore it, which is... | ||
| What he has done. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| There's no continuity here. | ||
| But then the second thing is that, you know, yeah. | ||
| Sticks and stones, my big brother. | ||
| That's good when someone's insulting you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, rise above the insults. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Or whatever. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Like, I don't know, me saying that Norm's a fucking child. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Rise above it, Norm. | ||
| Rise above it. | ||
| When you're defaming somebody. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And there is material harm that is done by your words. | ||
| It is no longer a... | ||
| The lies that Alex is telling are not just fun lies. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| Defamation lies. | ||
| You know, I mean, words can never hurt you until you print them out in block letters out of titanium that weigh a thousand pounds and then drop them on your head. | ||
| Words can hurt you eventually. | ||
| And just the words and the lies are not necessarily the end-all be-all of what this case is about. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| So that's the other illusion that Norm is perpetuating. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This idea that Alex is just, like, questioning things, the idea... | ||
| I mean, it is a little bit the result of the default judgment. | ||
| I mean, again, we talked about it in the last trial, but, like, the default judgment is a default judgment because all of the arguments that they would have made in court are essentially inadmissible. | ||
| And they're still trying to make those arguments. | ||
| And you can't say, you guys don't get to say anything now because you lost. | ||
| You can't say that. | ||
| I mean, as you said, giving them a wide berth is a reasonable thing to do. | ||
| But yeah, listening to his opening argument, I was sitting there going, technically you can't say that. | ||
| Technically you can't say that. | ||
| Technically you can't say that. | ||
| Just checking it off the list. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| Persistence pays off. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| As long as those checks from free speech systems keep clearing. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yes, as long as they do that. | ||
| So this, I took a particular issue with. | ||
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He's just written another book. | |
| The Great Precepting Award for the World. | ||
| Best seller on Amazon. | ||
| Injection, Your Honor. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| The answer to 1984, Orwell's classic, he tells you is 1776. | ||
| It's a serious message. | ||
| It's not a lie. | ||
| We live in deeply divided times, and plenty of people think 1776 is the answer to the Yeah, he said that. | ||
| He's also the guy who worries that the chemicals in our water might be turning frogs gay, that weather balloons are secret government weapons, that trails from Airplanes are seeded with toxins that are destroying and controlling us, that Hillary abuses children, that pedophiles run the government, and that people actually eat babies to remain forever young. | ||
| Which of these messages do we take serious enough to regard them as a threat we should shut off, and at what point do we regard them as the crank on the village green, the person we can walk away from if we choose to? | ||
| This is an interesting tack that Norm is trying here because he's essentially arguing that Alex is simultaneously really serious and important and on the right track, but he's also a raving madman who you should just ignore. | ||
| At first glance, this seems like a message that Alex shouldn't endorse, but if you think about it a little more, you can see how this is exactly the kind of ambiguity that Alex wants to cultivate about himself in official circles. | ||
| For his audience, he says... | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That isn't going to fly, so a different tactic needs to be employed. | ||
| And it's that sometimes he's serious and sometimes you should just write off what he's saying as crazy. | ||
| It's a perfect way to evade any responsibility for anything you say, but simultaneously allow yourself to feel like a big boy hero about things you want to be taken seriously for. | ||
| There's an uncertainty about whether or not any particular thing Alex says should be taken seriously, and that works really well in this context. | ||
| Talking shit about social media being too powerful? | ||
| Take that deadly seriously and recognize that Alex was way ahead of the curve on that, and he was essentially a prophet. | ||
| Claiming that murdered children's family members are actors and the whole thing didn't really even happen? | ||
| Come on, he's crazy. | ||
| You can't take what he's saying seriously. | ||
| You can see how this game that Norm is playing works. | ||
| It's very transparent. | ||
| And I want to take this one step further. | ||
| I do think that the things that Norm is listing off as the crazy stuff Alex says that you should discount as the ravings of a madman are things that you should absolutely take seriously. | ||
| Alex isn't someone on a street corner, as Norm wants to imply, just talking to himself about outlandish theories. | ||
| Alex is a multi-millionaire businessman who's created a career out of disseminating these outlandish theories to masses of people. | ||
| He's not someone on a street corner, he's a demagogue with international reach. | ||
| And the ravings that are just supposed to be ignored? | ||
| Those aren't things that his audience are supposed to know that Alex's lawyer would describe that way in court. | ||
| These are very serious, very real, completely documented conspiracies that are aimed at killing you and your family. | ||
| This isn't up for debate on Alex's show, but mysteriously, when you're in a formal setting surrounded by people who aren't indoctrinated into the fold... | ||
| These are examples of things that Alex says that prove you shouldn't take what he says seriously. | ||
| The ludicrousness of the things Alex says is used as a defense against him taking responsibility for the real-world damage he causes, and I think that is something to take very seriously. | ||
| even beyond that the things norm is listing off are very fucked up conspiracy theories many of which have their roots and anti-semitic tropes from histories the the eating of children and drinking their blood is a holdover from the blood libel many of the conspiracies about poisoning the water in the air harken back to well poisoning accusations about jewish people intentionally spreading the bubonic plague leaving aside these big | ||
| roots of his talking points, there are just very serious dangers in the way that a non-insignificant number of people, and some elected officials, are using pedophilia accusations to rile up their followers into a state where they're causing real damage to people, primarily aimed at members of the LGBTQ community. | ||
| We need to take the impact that they have seriously, and the game Norm is playing here is an attempt to run cover for that. | ||
| And based on Norm's character, I'm pretty sure he knows what he's doing because he's a piece of shit. | ||
| And he should rise above that. | ||
| Sticks and stones, you know, break your bones and words don't hurt. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| I feel like watching this... | ||
| We've discussed in the past that the world got lucky that we haven't become right-wing nutjobs on account of... | ||
| You and I? | ||
| Yeah, we're failed comedians. | ||
| We've got the pedigree for it, right? | ||
| We're failed comedians. | ||
| We're both two white dudes. | ||
| We're on mic all the time. | ||
| That is ripe for becoming a right-wing shithead. | ||
| That kind of thing. | ||
| But... | ||
| If I were one of those, then my legal strategy would be, fuck it. | ||
| Everything I say is crazy. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| And then I'd go into it in court and be like, why would you be racist? | ||
| Do you not see that there's no genetic basis? | ||
| Like, I would go ham on everything I've ever said and be like, see? | ||
| Look at how silly it is that people believe any of this shit. | ||
| Right, and then go on air and be like, I didn't mean any of that. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Who gives a shit? | ||
| Nobody cares! | ||
| Nobody cares! | ||
| Yeah, it is a little bit... | ||
| It's a bit strange that there's like the... | ||
| There are third rails for them where they're like, I won't come out and say that hating anti-gun shit is stupid, you know? | ||
| Well, I think that there is also the... | ||
| They don't want to blow up their game. | ||
| I think the problem is that you're imagining a situation where you don't have, like, an elaborate business to protect. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| So you could do that in your hypothetical scenario where there isn't, like, a warehouse full of pills that you gotta move. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But for me, it would also be like, oh, I see the writing on the wall. | ||
| This business is not gonna be mine for that much longer, so I might as well get me taken care of. | ||
| Because I'm a right-wing psychopath shithead. | ||
| Like, these people just aren't smart. | ||
| I honestly think that the more you talk, the more I realize you wouldn't cut it as a right-wing psychopath. | ||
| No, I really wouldn't. | ||
| I would be terrible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I don't think that you would be accepted into the circle because that is the kind of chaotic energy they don't want around. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Because you'll ruin their pill warehouses. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Yeah, you'll screw that shit up. | ||
| I am the Joker. | ||
| I'll burn the bottom half of the money. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So, um, we're done. | ||
| I'm listening to Norm's shit for now. | ||
| But we're going to jump in here on the 13th. | ||
| Alex's show. | ||
| It starts off, and maybe I was feeling nitpicky. | ||
| It was that kind of day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Everybody knows about the frog in the boiling pot of water analogy. | ||
| It's actually true. | ||
| The folks down in Louisiana and Mississippi like to eat their crawdads and their bullfrogs and the rest of it. | ||
| Well, sometimes they just throw the whole frog in the boiling pot, but they've learned that if you throw one into boiling water, he'll just jump right out. | ||
| But if you set him in a cool pot of water, and you just turn the heat up slow, he thinks it's a hot tub at first, and then passes out and dies a painless death. | ||
| And that's where America and the world is right now. | ||
| We're in the middle of the New World Order. | ||
| This isn't true. | ||
| Frogs don't just sit in water as you turn up the heat. | ||
| People have conducted tests on this, and it's really consistent that if frogs have a way to get out of the water as it gets hotter, they do. | ||
| Also, they don't just magically jump out of boiling water. | ||
| Although there are less people conducting this test for obvious humane animal treatment reasons, biologists have discussed the prospect, and it's pretty clear that, you know, a frog being thrown into boiling water would just be burned immediately by the scalding water, and they'd try to escape but probably die. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Even if it made it out of the boiling water, it would... | ||
| Probably succumb to injuries from the burns. | ||
| I mean, honestly, you couldn't barely get back out of boiling water. | ||
| It's boiling fucking water! | ||
| And it would cause a shock response. | ||
| Absolutely! | ||
| Yes! | ||
| This is a fun analogy for Alex to make because he comes from the school of anti-communism that views all social progress as the incremental change that is the metaphorical temperature of the water rising. | ||
| It's all kind of a fantasy, though, and the real metaphor is that the rise in temperature of this particular water is killing off Alex's ability to live in a society that caters solely to the needs of straight white Christian men. | ||
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| That's the metaphor understood appropriately. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I do appreciate he has a, what would I say, an almost... | ||
| A detrimental commitment to taking any down-home country aphorism and being like, and that's 100% true. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You go out back, you cut a log, and then you're going to break your leg, and that's 100% true. | ||
| If you step on a crack, you'll break your mother's back. | ||
| Absolutely, 100% of the time. | ||
| That comes from the old country. | ||
| Now, ironically, the phenomenon that's described by this boiling frog analogy actually kind of does apply to our collective response to climate change. | ||
| In that scenario, we're all frogs trapped in this pot, and Alex is a frog yelling at all of us that the water is not getting any hotter, and the globalists are just pushing that idea to get us to give up our food. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| So... | ||
| I just got an image of a giant gumbo pot with 20 frogs on either side of it, armed to the teeth, playing a game of chess. | ||
| That kind of feel. | ||
| And then they all boil to death. | ||
| And there's just one who's just yelling at them, the water's fine. | ||
| No, that's absolutely right. | ||
| In the middle of them. | ||
| So, yeah, maybe a little nitpicky, but I was bored. | ||
| Anyway, Alex has some big news. | ||
| And that's where we are as a culture. | ||
| And as a civilization. | ||
| And to give you an example of how we're winning the culture war, Tucker Carlson talked last night about the horrible next level of deception and censorship that is taking place at the master of lies, the New York Times. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Just how dishonest is the New York Times? | ||
| It's really a philosophical question. | ||
| It's hard to answer directly. | ||
| Do you have any idea what this is about? | ||
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| Do you want to guess what this is about? | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's only about the New York Times. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The New York Times must have published it. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe Aaron Judge's 57th home run wouldn't have gone out. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| I'm going to go with that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| How drunk was the guy you saw passed out in the men's room at a Packers game? | ||
| How angry is Hillary Clinton at her husband? | ||
| Well, the answer in all cases is very, extremely, so thoroughly and so totally that it's hard to put into words. | ||
| So instead of describing the dishonesty of the New York Times with conventional adjectives, we'll give you a specific example. | ||
| Because we think it tells you more. | ||
| So last week, the paper told us that the best-selling book in the United States was a title called I'm Glad My Mom Died by a child actress called Jeanette McCurdy. | ||
| But that was not true. | ||
| That book was not the best-selling book in America. | ||
| In fact... | ||
| The best-selling book in America last week was The Great Reset and the War for the Worlds, written by Alex Jones. | ||
| You could never have predicted that that was where this was going. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's whining like Alex about Alex on his show? | ||
| And then Alex is playing Tucker Whining about him. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, fuck me. | ||
| So one thing we should just get clear before I get into any of this is that for over a decade, and probably way longer than that, people have been a bit confused about how bestseller lists... | ||
| Not well. | ||
| There isn't necessarily a precise science to it, and if you look at different publications, you'll see different listings because they use different metrics. | ||
| I went and I checked the New York Times list, and sure enough, I'm glad my mom died is number one. | ||
| But if there's some kind of a weird systemic bias on this list... | ||
| I don't know how Jared Kushner's book Breaking History is coming in at number three in its third week on the list. | ||
| That seems strange. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or what about number 13 on the list being the book Battle for the American Mind by Peter Gegseth and David Goodwin, which is described as, quote, the Fox and Friends weekend host makes his case for what he calls a classical Christian education. | ||
| Seems like the Times would just say no thank you to that if they're just manipulating their shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Given these inclusions, I just don't believe for a second that there's like a systematic bias against Alex's book. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| There's one factor that I think is working against Alex, and that is that a ton of his books are being purchased directly from his website at a giant markup. | ||
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| And he's complained quite a bit about how he has to sign them all before shipping them out. | ||
| On his Wednesday show, he said that he sold 14,000 copies on his own website. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| These purchases through Infowars wouldn't be confirmed purchases the Times would factor into their rankings, partially because Infowars store doesn't report sales data to the Times. | ||
| They don't report sales data to the courts! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is a major part of how the Times makes their list. | ||
| from their website about the list methodology quote rankings reflect unit sales reported on a confidential basis by vendors offering a wide range of general interest titles published in the united states every week thousands of diverse selling locations report their actual sales on hundreds of thousands of individual titles the panel of reporting retailers is comprehensive and reflect sales in tens of thousands of stores of all sizes and demographic | ||
| So, you know, they have, like, some smaller operators. | ||
| Some smaller bookstores, some chains, some Amazon, of course. | ||
| And so they have these to get a sampling of where books are sold. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| This is where Alex is probably hurting. | ||
| I would guess that he doesn't have really great distribution for this book, and it's probably not being carried in many stores. | ||
| He's got his own website and Amazon, and while a ton of book buying is done online, there is a wider picture that is often ignored. | ||
| Alex's book is currently number five on Amazon's top seller list, which is great for him. | ||
| That's just based on purchases, so it's a little more straightforward in terms of rankings. | ||
| Incidentally, number four on that list is I'm Glad My Mom Died. | ||
| So he's not beating Jeanette there either. | ||
| Heartbreaking. | ||
| Also, number two is a cookbook written by Steve Doocy and his wife. | ||
| So really, Tucker should be asking, why isn't the New York Times charts putting Steve Doocy up there? | ||
| What everyone should be asking is, why try to write well? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Look, the point is that Tucker's not making a sincere argument here. | ||
| No, no, absolutely not. | ||
| Also, please remember, this is apparently the top story on Alex's show the day his trial in Connecticut is beginning. | ||
| As this episode is airing, Norm is in court. | ||
| Like, Alex is complaining about his book sales in the New York Times, snubbing him while Norm is doing his disgraceful bullshit. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| But that's all in character and shit. | ||
| You know, like... | ||
| Fuck me! | ||
| Tucker Carlson is going on national TV to whine that the New York Times didn't give him enough of... | ||
| I mean, that's shameful! | ||
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You're the most important man in the world! | |
| It's a little... | ||
| Although that is why he's the most important man in the world. | ||
| He's willing to go on a show. | ||
| Yeah, that's a fair point. | ||
| So Tucker gets into the numbers. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Jones sold more than 56,000 copies of his book last week. | ||
| Jeanette McCurdy, whatever her merits, we have no idea, sold 34,686 copies of her book. | ||
| So Alex Jones sold A lot more books. | ||
| Alex Jones had the biggest book in the country, but the New York Times lied about that because the New York Times doesn't want you to know that. | ||
| Tucker's number for McCurdy's book is pretty specific, so it's pretty simple to track that down. | ||
| This is from the Publishers Weekly list of top hardcover frontlist nonfiction. | ||
| On that list, McCurdy is number one with 34,686 units sold. | ||
| And Alex is number two with 30,649. | ||
| I thought he was number two with 54-something thousand. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Tucker is taking that number of books sold from Alex. | ||
| Ooh, not a good idea. | ||
| That probably adds the several thousand copies that he signed. | ||
| And I'm guessing that he took the number of McCurdy's books sold from Alex, too, because it's cited in a bunch of InfoWars articles about how the Times is shadow banning Alex. | ||
| But what's this? | ||
| Books don't only come in hardcover and nonfiction? | ||
| That doesn't sound true. | ||
| On the overall list from Publishers Weekly, McCurdy's book is at number seven, with four of the top six books being by Colleen Hoover. | ||
| Alex isn't even on the top ten on that full list. | ||
| Brutal. | ||
| If Alex really wants to make sure that all is right in the universe and make sure that the book that sold the most copies is number one, then he should be yelling about how Hoover's 2016 young adult romance novel, It Ends With Us, should be at number one. | ||
| Not McCurdy. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| He's not doing that because he doesn't actually care about how the Times list is compiled. | ||
| This is just about him taking his own petty grievance and insecurity about feeling left out and pretending it actually reveals a political point. | ||
| He also very clearly sees the potential this has as a way to drive sales. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Oh, fuck me. | ||
| 700 words long, and it includes six hyperlinks to the Amazon page to buy Alex's book. | ||
| Also, I should note that the book is 36% off its original price like a week into its release, which definitely doesn't scream, we've leased people on pre-orders and now we're trying to sell off the rest of these books at a cut rate so they don't fill up the warehouse. | ||
| Alex did well. | ||
| He cashed in a bit on a book, and he should be proud of himself for turning his incoherent ramblings into 30-something thousand books sold. | ||
| But this whole thing is a bit much, and it's really pathetic for Tucker to be jumping in and basically doing a segment based on an Infowars article about how the cool kids at the Times aren't letting Alex sit at the table. | ||
| It's a little bit sad. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And not just that, but like, wow. | ||
| Only 50,000 books? | ||
| I mean, that's like the biggest... | ||
| That's, like, the biggest book in America is 50,000 books. | ||
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| That's rough. | ||
| It does go to show the numbers of books sold are lower a lot of the time than you think. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| But then the second thing it goes to show you is that, like, look, I think it's great. | ||
| Like, if you were to sell 50,000 books, I would say amazing. | ||
| Yeah, that's awesome. | ||
| Congratulations, bro. | ||
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| If Alex is selling 50,000 books... | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| No. | ||
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| It's because of who he presents himself as. | ||
| Sure! | ||
| He's the biggest thing in the world. | ||
| He's the number one media source. | ||
| He's the Howard Stern of truth. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| He's the leader of the patriots and the CIA and the FBI and all this shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He is the king of the world. | ||
| He's friends with all the most powerful people. | ||
| Bolsonaro listens to his show every day. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now that he doesn't want to directly associate himself with Putin listening to his show all the time now. | ||
| Bolsonaro is much easier for him. | ||
| It's a good change. | ||
| Yeah, 50,000 is like, this is sad, bro. | ||
| No, I think overall, I think I had in the first two weeks like 10,000 downloads, which to me was approximately... | ||
| Of the book. | ||
| 100% of our audience. | ||
| That's the best conversion rate we can get? | ||
| That kind of thing. | ||
| That's amazing! | ||
| I don't have $100 million in my bank. | ||
| It's good for you and what you are. | ||
| That's great for me! | ||
| What Alex purports to be? | ||
| Sad! | ||
| Number is bad. | ||
| Also, he's saying that 14,000 sales through his website. | ||
| And I understand that he's selling something and I'm just giving something away. | ||
| But the number of buttons. | ||
| Like if we're just talking about straight up response rate. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| That number doesn't look so impressive if you look at my inbox. | ||
| Yeah, that's true, but, you know. | ||
| We're not that far away necessarily from Alex. | ||
| Can't beat free and price though. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| There is a difference. | ||
| There is a difference. | ||
| That's a variable. | ||
| So anyway, this whole thing is really, I mean, you know why he's doing this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the bandwidth and the rest of us are costing us $300,000 a month. | ||
| And the more proper we get with our own platform, the more money I've got to pay. | ||
| So I'm not bitching and complaining. | ||
| I'm just simply saying, we've hit the zeitgeist. | ||
| We are in the pole position. | ||
| We are winning. | ||
| We are hurting them. | ||
| We are inspiring liberty movements worldwide. | ||
| That means you are. | ||
| But I need funds. | ||
| And quite frankly, buying the book sends a message. | ||
| It's the Death Star plans. | ||
| It exposes the New World Order. | ||
| They can't stand it. | ||
| So get it at Infowarsstore.com or get it at Amazon.com or get it at Barnes& Noble. | ||
| That's all fine and dandy. | ||
| But if you want to support the broadcast where we actually do bring some money in, I'm going to hit all the news. | ||
| Get what's been sold out for over a year. | ||
| Green fiber capsules, the highest quality. | ||
| Everyone loves green fiber capsules. | ||
| Get those green fiber capsules. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I mean, this whole thing, really, even the playing of the Tucker piece is sales. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This whole beginning of the show is just sales. | ||
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| It's sad. | ||
| It would be fun. | ||
| I'm saying that a bit, but it's sad. | ||
| It would be more fun if the Home Shopping Network was like... | ||
| These swords are the best swords we have on the market. | ||
| Actually, you know what? | ||
| Let's play a clip of somebody saying these swords suck, and then we'll talk about it, because these swords are so fucking great! | ||
| That would be fun. | ||
| We're gonna have to put a clock on this one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, there's big news. | ||
| Alex has big news. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's done his piece. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Big news. | ||
| I'm gonna cover all the massive news and more, but here is the big news. | ||
| Inflation's off the hook. | ||
| Business sales across the border down. | ||
| We're going into a depression. | ||
| With inflation. | ||
| That's stagflation. | ||
| We're all in deep trouble. | ||
| And I'm just asking listeners to understand the storm is here. | ||
| It's not coming. | ||
| And with all the things you do in life, supporting corporate brands, supporting football games, all this crap, please set aside some money to keep InfoWars on the air because we're in Chapter 5 bankruptcy. | ||
| And the next few months it'll be decided whether we continue on or this shuts down. | ||
| And we are barely profitable. | ||
| And we've got to be able to show we're profitable as this plan goes forward in just the next six weeks. | ||
| So now is the most critical time in InfoWars history to go to InfoWarsStore.com and get DietForce. | ||
| So we're going to talk about this towards the end of the episode because Alex gets a little bit more clear about this. | ||
| But the way he's talking about his bankruptcy leads me to believe that he might be trying to defraud the bankruptcy court. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he might be discussing this plan on air in a way that is... | ||
| It's a great place to discuss it. | ||
| A little flagrant. | ||
| Nah, nah, nah. | ||
| You hide in plain sight. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Do your crimes on the radio. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| So yeah. | ||
| Inflation is on fleek. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Stagflation. | ||
| In Britain, that's what you do before you get married. | ||
| You have a stagflation. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So we're back to... | ||
| I mean, it's just, I need more money stuff. | ||
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Sure. | |
| He keeps trying to... | ||
| Kick me with this, I'm going to get to the news thing. | ||
| I like that he played the Tucker clip as a way to sell his book, but he sold his book as a way to sell something that has a higher profit margin by saying, don't buy my book. | ||
| It's a sale within a sale. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So we actually do get to some news. | ||
| This isn't a bait and switch this time. | ||
| Because it's not debatable it was a PSYOP. | ||
| It's not debatable it was a lie. | ||
| It's not debatable it was a fraud. | ||
| We have them. | ||
| And the good news is the rats are leaving the sinking ship. | ||
| Again. | ||
| Ethically unjustifiable. | ||
| Top scientists from Harvard and Johns Hopkins go public with a major study. | ||
| COVID-19 shots 98 times. | ||
| Worse than the virus. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| How would you do 98? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So this is a headline Alex is reading from Jim Hoft Substack. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| I guess he didn't want to run this on Gateway Pundit, so he kept this little gem for himself. | ||
| I would keep that one off the air. | ||
| Also, his Substack is called Second Smartest Guy in the World, which is pretty cool. | ||
| I'm guessing first place isn't his twin brother. | ||
| No, it's still Ben Stein. | ||
| Oh, it could be. | ||
| Win his money. | ||
| Oh, you gotta. | ||
| You gotta. | ||
| Jimmy Kimmel. | ||
| He was the co-host. | ||
| He was. | ||
| What a weird life we've all had. | ||
| I enjoyed that show. | ||
| I did too. | ||
| That's the weirdest part about it. | ||
| I have neutral feelings about Jimmy Kimmel now and negative feelings about Ben Stein. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Of all the co-hosts Jimmy Kimmel has had... | ||
| None have made it past 2012 as being like, you're a good person. | ||
| None of them. | ||
| Yeah, it's an interesting question. | ||
| Who's worse, Ben Stein or Ace Rockola? | ||
| Probably Adam. | ||
| Yeah, I would say so. | ||
| Adam has been in worse movies. | ||
| And I actually enjoyed The Hammer when I was younger, but I don't want to revisit it. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| The question is definitely answered with Adam. | ||
| And here's why. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He fell. | ||
| Like, there was a time when at Loveline, you know, you had the feeling that he was somebody who was being helpful. | ||
| He was very funny. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Again, I don't want to go back and revisit it. | ||
| Let's not worry about it. | ||
| But then to now, oh, terrible. | ||
| Whereas Ben Stein was a fucking speechwriter for Nixon. | ||
| He was just Ben Stein the whole time. | ||
| Why did he get a show? | ||
| There's no explanation for any of this. | ||
| Because he was in Ferris Bueller. | ||
| But that's not enough for me! | ||
| Apparently it is. | ||
| Yeah, well, you're right. | ||
| So anyway, Jim Hoft has a sub stack. | ||
| Good to know. | ||
| So this is, as always, what they're talking about. | ||
| It's a pre-print article that's being reported on by a COVID denial propagandist, so this isn't even really getting my eyebrows raised. | ||
| It's getting to be a yawn kind of thing. | ||
| Alex absolutely did not read this study. | ||
| It's 50 pages long, and he doesn't even sound like he read the title of Jim Hoff's blog before cold reading it on air. | ||
| He's just making up what he thinks he's reading, too. | ||
| The study itself is a cost-benefit analysis of mandating booster shots for people under 40, particularly in the context of college students. | ||
| The argument is that these mandates may not avert that many hospitalizations, and I can see where that may make some sense. | ||
| I think that would be very reasonable. | ||
| never came into contact with each other. | ||
| But seeing as we all do intermingle and vaccines are a community level solution to a problem, not an individual level one, I have some issues with just the very idea of this. | ||
| That being said, Hoff's headline is bullshit. | ||
| The study didn't say that vaccines are 98 times worse than the virus, as Alex is repeating. | ||
| That number, 98, is used in the paper as the high-end estimate of the number of serious adverse events you might expect to see in a hypothetical college of 30,000 students who are all given the booster. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Also, this paper hasn't been peer-reviewed, so their numbers and methodology might be suspect. | ||
| Probably self-reported. | ||
| I mean, but it's a hypothetical university. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
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Great. | |
| We've seen, in this COVID time, pre-print articles have, like, just math problems. | ||
| Yeah, I mean... | ||
| You know, like, you just calculate it wrong. | ||
| I don't know what to do with this. | ||
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| Let's get that through peer reporting and we'll talk. | ||
| 98 times. | ||
| How do you claim that? | ||
| Without having some concept of what it is that is 98 times worse. | ||
| It's 98 times worse, man. | ||
| How? | ||
| Mathematically, how? | ||
| Like, okay, so COVID... | ||
| This is one. | ||
| Right. | ||
| COVID's bad. | ||
| COVID's a one. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But getting a booster shot is 98 COVIDs. | ||
| But I don't know what that means. | ||
| It's like a Nick Lachey of danger. | ||
| Do I get 98 worse coughs? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Every cough... | ||
| 98 coughs. | ||
| 98 coughs. | ||
| Oh, that's bad. | ||
| That's 98 times worse. | ||
| I will say it's not ideal. | ||
| No. | ||
| So anyway, Alex is the leader of the resistance. | ||
| We are the American resistance. | ||
| We are the human resistance. | ||
| This is it. | ||
| And I don't say it again with some arrogant pleasure. | ||
| I say it to recognize what you as listeners have backed and your commissioning of this operation. | ||
| This is the tip of the spear. | ||
| This is the platinum standard. | ||
| This is it right here. | ||
| And don't think I don't know that. | ||
| And don't think it isn't a giant weight on me. | ||
| So, if you can temporize and actually let it get into your mind and understand that obviously, of course, America is the main resistance, as bad as we are. | ||
| And of course, the main resistance in America is coming out of a place like Texas. | ||
| That's the way the world's been. | ||
| It's the way the world still is. | ||
| As Texas goes, America goes. | ||
| As America goes, so goes the world. | ||
| You know who said that? | ||
| Dwight D. Eisenhower, when he was first elected president in the 1950s. | ||
| 1952. | ||
| Look it up. | ||
| I looked it up. | ||
| Did you look it up? | ||
| So Eisenhower won the 1952 election, but he was inaugurated in January 1953. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| This quote does not appear in that inaugural speech, nor in any speech he ever gave, because it's fake. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| I believe, if I had to guess, Alex is misremembering this line from that speech. | ||
| Quote, Whatever America hopes to bring to pass in the world must first come to pass in the heart of America. | ||
| You could interpret that as being like the heartland, and Alex might think that's Texas, or just that Texas is the heart of America. | ||
| Either way, that's as close as it gets in this speech. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Incidentally, in that speech, Eisenhower also lays out nine basic principles that his administration would be guided by in terms of achieving peace. | ||
| Let's hear those! | ||
| One of them is, quote, respecting the United Nations as the living sign of all people's hope for peace. | ||
| We shall strive to make it not merely an eloquent symbol, but an effective force. | ||
| That doesn't sound true. | ||
| Seems like Alex should think that this is a dirty globalist speech. | ||
| It does sound like that. | ||
| Anyway, more fake quotes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're just never going to get a real quote. | ||
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No. | |
| It's just not going to happen. | ||
| No. | ||
| Because in order to get a real quote, you would actually have to go look for it or learn about it or read it in a book. | ||
| You'd have to get it from a book. | ||
| Like, even QI's Book of General Quotes or whatever it was, whenever they released that, some of those were fake as shit. | ||
| Like, you don't know. | ||
| You don't know about quotes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I mean, I can't remember exactly what state it always was. | ||
| As Maine goes, so goes the country. | ||
| It was always the expression, because Maine was like the bellwether state. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| Initially... | ||
| And there's those expressions. | ||
| In like the electoral college sense. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| As Iowa does. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| That whole thing. | ||
| That kind of framing has been used about a number of states over the course of our history. | ||
| From the beginning. | ||
| But yeah, this thing in terms of Eisenhower's inaugural speech is bullshit. | ||
| As the colony of the Carolinas goes, so goes the 13. So here's where I wanted to throw my hands up and just say I quit. | ||
| Second question. | ||
| Carlson laid it out last night. | ||
| The massively expanding Democrat Party weaponized Justice Department attack on every major national Trump supporter, including Infowars. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| It shocks the conscience of everyone who sees it. | ||
| This should just be a Tucker Carlson recap show. | ||
| Like, it's just he's running a rerun of Tucker Carlson. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is nonsense. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Why are we... | ||
| Why does this... | ||
| I mean, it's... | ||
| Yeah, a national news show whined for me, so I'm gonna dedicate my entire broadcast to rebroadcasting that show. | ||
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Two! | |
| Two Tucker segments! | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Too much! | ||
| Anyway, Eddie Bravo signed Alex an Instagram video. | ||
| Sure! | ||
| Sure, that's a thing that we should say today! | ||
| That's an out loud thing that should exist! | ||
| So Alex is reporting on this Instagram video. | ||
| Sure, of course, of course. | ||
| Reporting. | ||
| So this is just a layperson, but that's the most important people that got hundreds of thousands of views on Instagram asking the question, and I love how they say, astrologists are saying the economy's going to implode. | ||
| Well, that's astrologists seeing the economy implode and saying, I'll make the prediction according to the stars this is going to happen. | ||
| I'm not attacking astrologists, but come on. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| You don't go off astrologists, you go off the Great Reset, and the globalists saying they would do this. | ||
| But they do a good listing of some of the top acts that have just canceled going out and giving shows in the next five months. | ||
| Because 56 days out from the election, they're planting false flags. | ||
| Yeah, Alex has a lot of nerve talking down on astrologers when he gets his information from prophetic dreams he's had and visions brought on by chicken fried steak. | ||
| Ah, but those were sent by God. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Not the stars. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That's stupid. | ||
| So this Instagram video that... | ||
| Eddie sent to Alex has to do with a bunch of musicians canceling tours and stuff, and it's because they know that something's going to happen, like a false flag terror event, a concert, or there's going to be another coronavirus lockdown or something. | ||
| Did the Nuge cancel his upcoming shows? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know if he has any shows anyone wants to go to. | ||
| That'd be nice. | ||
| So I found this video that's laying out the conspiracy, and it flashes on screen a bunch of canceled events to make the point that a lot of stuff... | ||
| First is the Weezer Broadway residency, which the headline that they show says, quote, citing low ticket sales. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| It's not a surprise that Weezer on Broadway is not a hot ticket. | ||
| As Weezer on Broadway goes, so goes the nation, Dan. | ||
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Right. | |
| The next is about Luke Combs canceling a single concert because he had problems with his voice. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That happens. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| The third is Shawn Mendes canceling a tour to take personal time. | ||
| I have no idea who Shawn Mendes is, but good for him. | ||
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Yep. | |
| After that is, quote, Carlos Santana cancels six concerts as he continues to recover. | ||
| Santana is 74 years old and he collapsed on stage in July while performing in Michigan. | ||
| Is Rob Thomas okay? | ||
| I assume that the two of them are inextricably, like when Adams become entangled. | ||
| I assume that's how, what happened after Smooth is Santana and Rob Thomas became one. | ||
| Well, I mean, like when Carlos Santana collapsed on stage, Rob Thomas said, I'd give my world to lift you up. | ||
| To pick you back up off the stage. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| That does make sense. | ||
| He was a thousand miles away, though, and all of a sudden he stood up in the middle of a restaurant and started singing that. | ||
| And then somewhere off in the long distance, Everlast is pissed off that put your lights on wasn't as big a hit. | ||
| It's never going to happen, Everlast. | ||
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There's a monster living under my bed. | |
| Oh, boy. | ||
| It's a good song, I think. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Again, don't want to revisit it. | ||
| So then, there's another band I've never heard of that canceled a tour, and then, quote, Foo Fighters cancel all tour dates after drummer Taylor Hawkins' death. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| None of these cancellations seem suspicious at all. | ||
| They're all pretty well understood. | ||
| Weezer ticket sales weren't going well. | ||
| Carlos Santana is old and collapsed on stage. | ||
| One guy canceled one concert because he had a voice issue, and then the drummer of their band died. | ||
| Man, did you see? | ||
| I assume you didn't see the tribute concert. | ||
| I saw his son playing the drums on My Hero. | ||
| Makes you cry every time. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| It's impressive as hell. | ||
| He was great! | ||
| Because that's also... | ||
| Not a super easy song, drum-wise. | ||
| You gotta have the strength to hit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You gotta have the strength to hit on those. | ||
| And also, kids 16, right? | ||
| Like, the poise to be able to perform at all, let alone for a Foo Fighters crowd. | ||
| For your dad's... | ||
| It's a lot of pressure. | ||
| Staring into Dave Grohl's eyes as you play the drum solo that he wrote. | ||
| It's very impressive. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just to be able to be on that stage and not freak out at 16 is... | ||
| I don't think... | ||
| I wouldn't be ready for it. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| I'd be weeping. | ||
| I think at 16 I might have done a musical or a play at my school and it freaked me out. | ||
| Anyway, honestly, this is some of the stupidest, most early 2000s conspiracy message board-ass shit, and it's no surprise that Alex said that Eddie Bravo tipped him off on this one. | ||
| Yeah, that would make sense. | ||
| So dumb. | ||
| Fingers crossed that we get to see Tucker do a whole segment about it next week, and then Alex can cover Tucker covering it. | ||
| Like, honestly, between playing multiple Tucker segments and then this bullshit, I felt so embarrassed that this is the show we do. | ||
| I feel embarrassed that this is the world we live in. | ||
| I mean, you know... | ||
| We used to talk about being in the dark timeline or in the funny timeline. | ||
| This has turned into just like a, what are we doing here, people? | ||
| Come on. | ||
| It's very stupid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Everybody's making choices actively against their own interests. | ||
| This is the part where I want to say... | ||
| When I say going back to the past is more interesting for me, there's more to do, a lot of it is because Alex is doing this Tucker segment, the COVID conspiracy of the day that's from some dumbass's substack, and then Eddie Bravo sent me a fucking Instagram video about some bullshit. | ||
| Got hundreds of thousands of views! | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Most important man in the world right now is Eddie Bravo. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Based on the dumb nonsense that I see people post that got hundreds of thousands of views on TikTok, I don't think it's that hard. | ||
| It must not be that hard. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Anyway, Alex is selling lots of books, and that money is going straight back into the show, baby. | ||
| Also, he has a coin. | ||
| I want to thank you all for your support. | ||
| Number one book in the world. | ||
| I got $80,000 just paid to me in the first payment. | ||
| They think I'll probably make a few million dollars off the book. | ||
| How? | ||
| It's all getting dumped in to this operation. | ||
| Most of your sales come within the first few weeks. | ||
| You know that, right? | ||
| Lawsuits and the trials and the attacks. | ||
| We're going to file the appeals. | ||
| You're going to make $80,000. | ||
| We're going to continue to battle them for years and keep this operation going. | ||
| But it's up to you to fund the operation. | ||
| Thanks for your support. | ||
| Infowarstore.com. | ||
| They've de-industrialized America. | ||
| They've done one-sided trade deals to shut you down. | ||
| Everything they're doing to me, they're doing to you. | ||
| We're just the focal point of that fight. | ||
| 1776coin.com. | ||
| I'd like to see a sign of liberty and just sell out the 9,000 coins that are left. | ||
| Sold 1,000 yesterday. | ||
| I'd like to see them sold today. | ||
| Yeah, let's move these coins. | ||
| Here's another coin he's selling. | ||
| As a businessman, I would like to see all of my business done quickly, as opposed to slowly. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I love, too, that he was like, all right, we're doing this series of four coins. | ||
| It's just going to be four coins. | ||
| Also, hey, I got a fifth coin. | ||
| I remember when Batman Forever came out, you could get these mugs from McDonald's or whatever. | ||
| Those frosty mugs. | ||
| Yeah, and you would get all the... | ||
| I tried to get all of them. | ||
| I tried to get all of them. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I feel like those are worth as much now as that coin will be later. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it is overpriced. | ||
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| And we'll deal with that a little bit later. | ||
| Alex does get self-conscious about it. | ||
| Well. | ||
| So, look. | ||
| You take some calls. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| They're dumb. | ||
| Boring. | ||
| So let's go to the 14th. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Alex has another COVID conspiracy of the day story. | ||
| What a broadcast we've got lined up for you today. | ||
| We can put the full show headline up on screen. | ||
| It tells it all. | ||
| Global bombshell. | ||
| Secret Israeli government report with video of the report from their health ministry head confirms COVID vax causing massive side effects and death. | ||
| No, our top story is not going to be a show trial in Connecticut and all the fraud that's going on up there. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| We'll cover some of that today, and it's incredible, and Robert Barnes joins us. | ||
| But this, and all the other information coming out, is the proof of the premeditated global UNWEF Big Pharma-directed mass murder. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So I was curious about this bombshell report Alex is covering here, so I searched for the words he was saying, and imagine my surprise when I found that he's just reading the headline for the article on Infowars that includes the embedded video of the show that he's in the middle of doing. | ||
| This is just a headline Alex himself has written for this day's show. | ||
| And you can see the exact same wording reposted on tons of really shady-looking blogs, all of which are just reposting Alex's video, but weirdly, none of them have links to these documents in this Israeli study that is supposed to be the bombshell. | ||
| So I did a little digging around, and I found what Alex is covering, and it's just another post on Steve Kirsch's subset. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| There's a video on Rumble that purports to be from the Israeli health ministry having a meeting where they discuss findings that there are some longer-term side effects of the Pfizer vaccine that hadn't been known previously, findings which are being said to have been covered up by Pfizer and the Israeli government. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I can't find coverage of this on any outlet that I find even halfway respectable, and I don't speak Hebrew, so I don't know what's being said in this video. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The context in the original narrative framework for this story traces back to a post on Twitter by a woman named Yafa Shiraz, who's credited generally as a health and risk communications researcher and a health journalist. | ||
| This translates to her running a website called Real Time News, which is kind of... | ||
| It comes off as an Israeli version of a lot of the dicey sources that I run into on this show. | ||
| Things like WorldNetDaily, Gateway Pundit, or Steve Kirsch's Substack. | ||
| If your name makes me wince... | ||
| Then I know, you know. | ||
| Real-time news. | ||
| Real-time news, and I'm like, eh, that's gonna hurt. | ||
| It's uncreative and so bland as to be like, you're trying to trick me or something. | ||
| You're lying to me. | ||
| Come on now. | ||
| I don't know too much about Shiraz, but it's worth noting that she was a major source of the fraudulent narrative that tons of soccer players were dropping dead because of vaccine side effects. | ||
| She fudged data and miscalculated shocking numbers on that front. | ||
| Which then became big talking points in the anti-vax world that we cover. | ||
| For this reason, and because there's absolutely zero reputable coverage of this video, I'm skeptical of the way it's being discussed. | ||
| These particular information sources haven't earned the benefit of the doubt, so I got nowhere to go on this thing. | ||
| I can cover it as it's being told by these people, and the ways that Alex's coverage of it doesn't even match the version of it that exists. | ||
| But I have no idea. | ||
| I mean, yeah, you're not going to win. | ||
| Also, why is Alex using... | ||
| I mean, so the Israeli health minister has come out and said that Pfizer's lying about... | ||
| Or ostensibly. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's the conspiracy? | ||
| No. | ||
| So the video is of a Zoom meeting. | ||
| That is like a group of researchers that were commissioned by the health ministry to look at side effects, and they apparently found some longer-term side effects and some side effects that hadn't been seen in the signals that Pfizer had taken note of. | ||
| And then, apparently after this, the health ministry put out a report. | ||
| Or maybe even in conjunction with Pfizer that covered up these side effects that they found. | ||
| That's the allegation, generally speaking. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So then the government was covering it up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| And Pfizer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The government and Pfizer. | ||
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| Okay. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| He'll just accept anyone who says what he wants to... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, it doesn't matter. | ||
| Like, there should be sources that should be off limits for him. | ||
| Well, he'll accept anybody who says what he wants them to say, and he'll also make up things to add on to things. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| People who are saying things that are close to what he wants them to say. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| So we got another COVID conspiracy of the day. | ||
| CDC admits it falsely claimed it was monitoring vaccine safety, but still won't release the full data, but now we're admitting that it's killing people. | ||
| There desperately needs to be some prison time. | ||
| CDC director admits agency gave false information on COVID-19 vaccine safety monitoring because they didn't do it because they'd done secret tests at the CDC, knew it was killing the rat. | ||
| So this is a fraudulent story. | ||
| Essentially what it boils down to is semantics. | ||
| The Epoch Times was running some stories about the CDC's monitoring of VAERS data, and they were contending that the CDC was not analyzing the data at all. | ||
| The CDC had made some comments that they had used a data analysis method called proportional reporting ratio, or PRR. | ||
| But, in fact, they had only used that method between March 25, 2002 and July 31, 2022. | ||
| As is clarified in a letter from the CDC director to Senator Ron Johnson, who is questioning her about this, quote, CDC and FDA chose to rely on empirical Bayesian data mining, a more robust technique used to analyze disproportionate reporting rather than PRR calculations to mitigate potential false signals. | ||
| CDC performed PRR analysis between March 25th and July 31st, 2022 to corroborate the results of the EB data mining. | ||
| Notably, results from PRR analysis were generally consistent with EB data mining, revealing no additional unexpected safety signals. | ||
| This isn't a story about the CDC not monitoring data. | ||
| It's just about them using a different methodology that they felt was more useful and possibly someone misspeaking at some point in the past. | ||
| It's so funny, and so just the world of humanity, that the idea of somebody going out of their way to double-check if something's right is the source of a conspiracy for people. | ||
| It's very suspicious. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here! | ||
| You're trying to verify the shit you're telling me? | ||
| That's only something that liars would do! | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Never mind. | ||
| Yeah, fact-checkers, thorough people, they're suspicious. | ||
| Liars. | ||
| So anyway, we got a story here. | ||
| Pray. | ||
| Every day we see 50 or 60 of these articles. | ||
| Teen athlete survives mysterious six-foot blood clot, but now football's off the table. | ||
| He did, of course, take the shot. | ||
| Six-foot blood clot? | ||
| And it just gets more crazy. | ||
| It's not a single blood clot. | ||
| But it's six feet of blood clots. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So this is a headline that Alex is reading from CBN, which of course is the Christian Broadcasting Network. | ||
| This is about a high school student named Caden Clymer who had a large blood clot and multiple. | ||
| Nowhere in the story does it mention Clymer's vaccination status. | ||
| Alex is just making that up. | ||
| Sure, just add that in there. | ||
| Yeah, he has a vested interest in reporting every story about a young person who gets hurt as being the consequence of their getting vaccinated. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He can't make his point by discussing reality, so he just... | ||
| Incidentally, the CBN story includes this that Alex never talks about, doesn't mention this at all. | ||
| Quote, The disorder can be acquired or congenital. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| on the story and no one mentions whether or not he was vaccinated. | ||
| I did find a lot of angry blogs saying that the fact that stories don't say whether he was vaccinated is proof that he is and they're covering it up. | ||
| I think that's dumb. | ||
| Also, in July 2021, Ohio, where this high school is located, passed a law prohibiting mandates for public schools, so there's literally no reason to just automatically assume that he was vaccinated. | ||
| Alex doesn't care about the reality of this situation. | ||
| To him, this story is useful if the kid was vaccinated so he can make it look like this is a consequence of vaccination, so he doesn't need any proof to justify reporting that he was. | ||
| That's how simple his brain is, and how little he cares about what he tells his audience. | ||
| I want Alex to sit and watch a Premier League game, and just every time a soccer player goes down, just be like, Oh my god, that must be vaccinated! | ||
| Oh, he's getting up again. | ||
| But I swear to you, the next time, it's vaccination that caused him to fall. | ||
| I swear, it wasn't a hard tackle, he was vaccinated. | ||
| It wasn't Zinedine Zidane headbutting him. | ||
| It was the vaccine. | ||
| How long ago did that happen? | ||
| Years. | ||
| We have made five at least references pre-2000 today, I think. | ||
| I think we're old, man. | ||
| I don't think that was pre-2000. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I know Batman Forever was like 97 or something like that. | ||
| I want to say. | ||
| Well, I watched that World Cup with my brother because it was like Zidane's last World Cup. | ||
| Yeah, that would have been 2004. | ||
| That sounds about right. | ||
| Now we're two old men trying to remember years. | ||
| I saw that headbutt live, I think. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I feel like I did, because I remember having a whoo reaction to it. | ||
| How about that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then there was a rap lyric that's like, I'm like Zidane how I kick it. | ||
| Zinedine, I'll be blowing trees in the mezzanine. | ||
| Who was that? | ||
| That was the Reavers. | ||
| I remember that. | ||
| I think I told you about it, because no one else has ever heard that before. | ||
| That would make sense. | ||
| Probably some night at a bar I was yelling at you. | ||
| In one of our many conversations, eventually we got to Zinadane. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| My brother was big into the French team. | ||
| We love Thierry Henry. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That's all I remember. | ||
| Was he a goalie? | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| I only remember a couple of those French players, and then the U.S. World Cup team from when I was a kid, because they tried really hard to make Alexi Lalas a really cool grunge-type figure, because he had the red hair and the beard. | ||
| And then there was Marcelo Balboa. | ||
| He had a cool name. | ||
| Can't go wrong with a Marcelo Balboa. | ||
| I feel like he did the bicycle kick. | ||
| Man, that must, you know, sometimes... | ||
| Sucker memories. | ||
| Sometimes you think of, you see somebody's name and you think of the moment that their parents named them and you're like, what were they thinking? | ||
| But after like a Marcella Balboa, they must have high-fived. | ||
| Like, that's the best name we've ever come up with. | ||
| We nailed it. | ||
| I feel like there were a couple other people I remember on that team, but let's move on. | ||
| Let's move on. | ||
| Because a big name is about to show up and it's media star Bobby Barnes. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| But he's not on to talk about the trial. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| All right, ladies and gentlemen, constitutional lawyer, historian, good friend of mine, criminal lawyer as well, Robert Barnes joins us into the next hour. | ||
| And no, he's not here right now to talk about the show trial in Connecticut. | ||
| That's important. | ||
| He's here later to talk about it. | ||
| Incredible developments at the start of the next hour. | ||
| But he's involved suing Pfizer and Robert Kennedy Jr. with the big whistleblower that helped this whole ball start rolling. | ||
| So I don't get... | ||
| You know, butterflies around Hollywood stars or NFL quarterbacks until they actually start telling the truth. | ||
| And I do like Aaron Rodgers. | ||
| Love him. | ||
| But I just get butterflies with Robert Barnes because wherever there's a fight for liberty... | ||
| Wherever there's a battle against tyranny, he's there. | ||
| Alex had to save himself because he had just spent a while talking about how cool Aaron Rodgers was because he was on Bill Maher's shit and he was doing some anti-vax nonsense. | ||
| And so Alex had to be like, I like Aaron Rodgers. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I don't... | ||
| Wasn't talking about how Brett Favre defrauded the welfare system. | ||
| No, not talking about that one, right? | ||
| Nah. | ||
| So, yeah, Barnes isn't on to talk about the trial. | ||
| He's going to talk about his doomed lawsuits that he's... | ||
| How did he swindle JFK Jr. into Robert Kennedy? | ||
| I don't think it was hard. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| I think it works. | ||
| It's a perfect arrangement for the both of them. | ||
| It's going nowhere, and they'll both scam a bunch of money off their followers for it. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| Anyway, Alex has got to complain a little bit here about his trial. | ||
| Jones is trending number one again. | ||
| Every major news channel demonizing us, lying about us, and never explaining that you don't find somebody guilty by a judge and then have a show trial about how guilty are they. | ||
| Tying the hands of lawyers in Texas, tying the hands in Connecticut. | ||
| But the difference is... | ||
| In Texas, the judge would turn the internet feed off, and the cameras would all immediately turn it off, and she would spend hours lecturing my lawyer that he couldn't speak. | ||
| People said, his lawyer's an idiot. | ||
| Why is he defending? | ||
| Because it's a damages hearing where they're having their own trial, but then we can't defend because we're, quote, guilty, the judges say. | ||
| So you finally understand a damages trial. | ||
| He's an independent analyst, doesn't work for InfoWars or for me at this time. | ||
| He's able to lay this out. | ||
| He's been doing live streaming with literally over a million viewers yesterday. | ||
| This co-host, another lawyer out of Canada, laying this out. | ||
| We've got a bunch of clips, but just lay out what's really happening here because this is unprecedented. | ||
| This judge is sending it all out where she spends hours telling my lawyer, you can't ask questions about this. | ||
| You can't ask questions about that. | ||
| They say they're opening statement. | ||
| We want to shut him down and take him off air. | ||
| He says, well, I want to ask these people that are, you know, this FBI agent never said his name. | ||
| I want to ask, did you talk about taking Alex off air? | ||
| Nope, you can't ask that question. | ||
| It's incredible. | ||
| Explain what's happening. | ||
| So this isn't accurate at all, but what can you really expect? | ||
| Norm's strategy, as far as we've seen up to this point, is to insist that the plaintiffs are political operatives who've transmuted their grief about a tragedy into activism against the Second Amendment, and they're exaggerating their trauma in order to use money and the legal system as weapons against Alex because he's the only true supporter of the Second Amendment or something. | ||
| As a consequence of their default sanctions, Alex's side isn't permitted to make certain claims, which they could have contested and raised in an actual trial if they hadn't engaged in a very clear pattern of malicious non-participation with the discovery process. | ||
| As the third day of the trial really seemed to make clear, there are many things that were intentionally withheld from discovery, particularly Google Analytics data. | ||
| I can't confirm whether or not Infowars has ever used Google Analytics, Dan. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I can only go by what Infowars says. | ||
| Now, sure. | ||
| All those emails? | ||
| They look like we did. | ||
| So on day three, what we're referring to here, day two and three have largely been the questioning of Brittany Paz. | ||
| The Paz dispenser, if you will. | ||
| She is the corporate representative and a lot of Thursday, day three, had to do with the question of Google Analytics because they were supposed to turn over these Google Analytics data. | ||
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| And they did not, and claimed that they just didn't use it. | ||
| They don't even use it! | ||
| Especially not for making decisions. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so, it was a lot of instances that were brought up of Google Analytics being referenced in emails and snapshots of Google Analytics. | ||
| JPEGs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which is not the data that is full. | ||
| It's not a full picture. | ||
| It's not what was... | ||
| Well, okay. | ||
| You'd think. | ||
| So, okay. | ||
| So here's what you're going to say when we turn this data over to you. | ||
| Because we had a huge spike in traffic, and we knew about that by checking Google Analytics, we used that to decide what our coverage about Sandy Hook going forward would be, and we saw that the right way to do it was to lie about it. | ||
| And apparently, there's a deposition of Alex's dad, David Jones, who said that when something works well, they try to replicate it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which, taken in conjunction with this, looks really bad. | ||
| Doesn't look good. | ||
| Doesn't look good. | ||
| But, have you considered, I've never heard of Google. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So this is just the latest example of things that they clearly didn't turn over that were responsive to discovery demands. | ||
| The texts that Mark produced in the Austin case that included the word Sandy Hook clearly demonstrate either an active decision to not turn them over, or that Infowars didn't even look for the stuff that they were required to look for, which is still... | ||
| Against the discovery process. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| All the rules don't exist for them. | ||
| This song and dance got old long ago, but we're in another trial, so we're going to hear this quite a bit. | ||
| The ultimate irony is that Barnes was Alex's lawyer during a lot of the beginning of the discovery abuse, so he might not be Alex's lawyer now, but he's in essence the architect of getting Alex into the situation he's in now. | ||
| Seems like the perfect person to interview about how you're being wronged by the courts. | ||
| I mean, you can't help but look at this as Barnes's idea, right? | ||
| Like, from the beginning, the idea was don't cooperate. | ||
| Barnes was their lawyer. | ||
| I think you could maybe make that assumption. | ||
| Incompetence is certainly a possible explanation. | ||
| It strains credulity a little bit. | ||
| I don't know if Barnes intended it to get to where it is now. | ||
| I mean, that is definitely up in the air. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Because we have replaced a lot of lawyers, many of whom, in depositions we have heard implied, were not stoked about what they were doing. | ||
| Well, and they said that they're considering suing Barnes for malpractice. | ||
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Yes, exactly. | |
| There is that. | ||
| The judge in Texas didn't turn off the internet feeds and lecture Alex's lawyer for hours. | ||
| That's just completely made up and actually might be defamatory. | ||
| Chris Meddy, the plaintiff's lawyer here in Connecticut, did say that a fitting punishment for Alex is to get him off air to make it so he can't profit off hurting people in the future. | ||
| argued to be a little bit out there in terms of an opening, but I think it's fine. | ||
| It's a damages hearing, and the lawyer is saying that fitting damages would be to impose whatever punishment makes Alex unable Yeah. | ||
| with Norm's questioning of the FBI agent, who was the first witness called by the plaintiffs. | ||
| That had to do with Norm asking inappropriate questions about whether or not he was one of the people in Connecticut who had petitioned NBC to not air the Megyn Kelly interview. | ||
| It wasn't trying to take Alex off air, per se. | ||
| And Alex himself filmed a bunch of videos where he was trying to get that interview pulled, so I don't even know what the point is here. | ||
| Also, Norm had no reason to believe that the guy was involved in that, and his conduct was way out of line. | ||
| It was part of a chain of things he got reprimanded for, where he was trying to present to the jury that Alex was only getting sued because of Hillary Clinton putting a target on him. | ||
| Basically the premise of that cool documentary, Alex's War. | ||
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| That fair, impartial documentary, Alex's War. | ||
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That's great. | |
| Defense. | ||
| You know that? | ||
| I just saw one best soundtrack at TIFF. | ||
| Did it? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That is what Alex's war just did. | ||
| Wow. | ||
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Congratulations. | |
| The Toronto International. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It was a great soundtrack, if nothing else. | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| So Barnes has some thoughts about Norm. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| What are they? | ||
| Well, they're good. | ||
| Are they? | ||
| I wouldn't have good thoughts. | ||
| If you want to see what good defense advocacy looks like against a rogue judge in a hostile setting, there is no better example than Norm Pattis' representations yesterday. | ||
| And I recommended watching that video in this part of the trial to people all across the country, even if they're not interested in this case particularly. | ||
| Because how do you stand up to a judge? | ||
| Norm Pattis showed how you do so. | ||
| You don't capitulate to rogue judges. | ||
| On the first day of the trial, Norm almost got the jury excused because he wouldn't stop making inappropriate statements in his opening remarks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| On the second day, Norm got chewed out for openly disrespecting the judge and the court by not standing up to make objections. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| On the third day, Norm fell asleep for a short stretch and then quote tweeted a post from Mike Cernovich who was trying to be edgy about bussing immigrants to Martha's Vineyard. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He tweeted this shit while he was in trial and he fell asleep. | ||
| I just, the moment, like, we texted about it. | ||
| Because it was the setup for a Three Stooges bit where it was like the judge saying to the lawyers and the jury like, hey, you know, it happens sometimes where the jury has to get up and go out and get up and go out and I'm going to try not to make you do that. | ||
| So we're just going to talk to the lawyers here and she's telling Norm, don't do what you're doing. | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| I'll have to send the jury out of the room. | ||
| And he's like, no, listen, you're right. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| I won't do that. | ||
| And then five seconds later, he does it, and she just screamed, get over here! | ||
| That was the moment where it was like, you've got to be kidding me. | ||
| This isn't allowed. | ||
| And then smash cut to an hour later, he's asleep, but he's got half ping pong balls on his eyes. | ||
| Yes! | ||
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Yes! | |
| It is one of the most... | ||
| This is not a good job. | ||
| If you had never seen a trial before... | ||
| Ever, in your life, you would watch this shit and go, man, these things are a lot crazier than I ever would have imagined. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I thought they were just real quiet, somber affairs. | ||
| I am saying that. | ||
| I mean, it's not like as chaotic as maybe you're making it seem, but at points it is, certainly. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Mostly when Norm decides he's gonna get a little loose. | ||
| He's got a power-up button. | ||
| Yeah, and like I said, it's not fun. | ||
| It makes me feel on edge. | ||
| It makes me feel worried. | ||
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| Because it's so disrespectful and, you know, family members are in the courtroom. | ||
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Right. | |
| You know, that is something that has been brought up. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And the camera's panned a couple times and I've seen a couple people that I recognize. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And, like, that is a reality of this. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And when Norm is being a shithead. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's a factor. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, I don't know, he should grow up. | ||
| You should also get woke insurance. | ||
| All right, buddy. | ||
| So Alex and Barnes are pissed off because, man, I just want to make this about Hillary. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And what's the one name that is all about what led to this case that this judge says can't be mentioned, can't be asked about, can't be talked about, can't discuss it in opening statement, can't discuss it in direct examination, can't discuss it in cross-examination? | ||
| She ran national TV ads of edited tape of me questioning Sandy Hooker, which is my right. | ||
| And I don't apologize for questioning it. | ||
| I apologize if out of context I hurt somebody's feelings. | ||
| She literally says, you will not bring that up, that she ran $30 million worth of ads in the closing months of the campaign, 2016. | ||
| In fact, as Norm Patterson explained, this whole case came about because of Hillary Clinton. | ||
| And yet Hillary Clinton is the one name that can't be talked about, can't ask questions about her, can't mention her opening statement, can't reference her to the jury. | ||
| But she tells Norm he can't talk about anything. | ||
| She told him yesterday, you've got to say your client's guilty. | ||
| I found him guilty. | ||
| No, it's that you can't try and undo... | ||
| It's established that you are liable. | ||
| You have lost by default. | ||
| You can't pretend that you didn't. | ||
| That's going to... | ||
| Ruin the jury. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's going to fuck up the entire case. | ||
| Yeah, it was like when he was talking about, he was trying to get Brittany to admit that she's lying, and he kept saying the word lie, and Norm objected, like, you can't say lie? | ||
| That makes it, and the judge has to be, like, overruled. | ||
| It is a lie. | ||
| She can't just say, like, no, no, don't ask. | ||
| It's like, yes, she's lying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What else is there to say? | ||
| Not much. | ||
| And the whole thing with Hillary, that's a really interesting thing you could have done in court if you had not gotten yourself defaulted by a clear pattern of abuse of the discovery process. | ||
| I mean, it would have failed as a defense. | ||
| It would have been ridiculous. | ||
| But it would have been appropriate in that other setting. | ||
| For a while, until the judge was like... | ||
| You know this has nothing to do with anything, right? | ||
| You are, I believe, allowed to defend yourself by being a giant piece of shit. | ||
| No, just completely saying stuff that is like, wow, that doesn't make sense. | ||
| Well, that's fair. | ||
| You are entitled to a nonsensical defense. | ||
| I suppose. | ||
| You're not in this setting. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's a damages hearing. | ||
| It is a damages hearing. | ||
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You prick. | |
| Things are established as real. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| So they don't seem to understand, or I mean, it's... | ||
| Obviously, false, not understanding. | ||
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| But why Bill Aldenberg, the FBI agent, is a plaintiff? | ||
| Knowing that, you have a case that's supposed to be about damages, and yet almost none of the evidence presented has anything to do with damages. | ||
| And look at their lead witness. | ||
| For all these people, look, the media has covered everybody except their lead plaintiff in the case. | ||
| Who's the lead plaintiff that was the first witness who testified? | ||
| It was not a parent of anybody who died. | ||
| It's not a sibling of anybody who died at Sandy Hook. | ||
| It's an FBI lawyer. | ||
| An FBI lawyer. | ||
| He's the one who's their lead number one plaintiff. | ||
| And Robert, what they're doing is setting the precedent where the garbage man, I never said his name, I questioned something, he can sue me. | ||
| This is bureaucrats setting the precedent to sue people that disagree with him. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
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| But Barnes has decided that because he was the first witness, you can tell what this is all about. | ||
| You can tell. | ||
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Isn't that evidence, though, that it's not about Alex? | |
| Being called the person who did the thing at Sandy Hook if the FBI agent isn't a member of the family? | ||
| Never mind. | ||
| Well, I will say that Alex does again say that people he knows and his lawyers don't know who Adam Lanza is, which again is shockingly poor preparation on their part, if that's true, which it's not. | ||
| Here's a high-ranking, well-regarded FBI counsel. | ||
| Right? | ||
| I mean, that's who this guy is. | ||
| This isn't some low-level schmuck. | ||
| And he is their lead, number one plaintiff testifying witness. | ||
| That tells you what this case is really all about. | ||
| This case is not about Sandy Hook. | ||
| This case is not even really about the parents and the families, or they would have been the first witness up for these lawyers. | ||
| Instead... | ||
| It's an FBI lawyer who admits you never even talked about him. | ||
| You never even mentioned him. | ||
| You never even referenced him. | ||
| Didn't know who he was until he sued me. | ||
| Bill Aldenberg was likely their first witness because he has a very powerful story about being one of the people who responded to the school, who had to see the horrors of what had happened firsthand, and then was subjected to a campaign of harassment and attacks because of information put out by Wolfgang Halbig and endorsed by Alex. | ||
| This has to do with the accusation that he was an actor and accusations that he and one of the parents were the same person, so it is all connected to the exact same stuff that is relevant to everybody. | ||
| Barnes knows this. | ||
| He's just a... | ||
| shit. | ||
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| Don't worry about it. | ||
| Just an insult, you piece of shit. | ||
| Also, weird that Barnes doesn't bring up that the second witness was Carly Soto, who was a relative of Victoria Soto, the teacher at the school who died. | ||
| Yeah, her testimony. | ||
| I guess you can really only get the sense of a case by the first witness, not the second. | ||
| And you probably want to just ignore that because it was... | ||
| Especially a four-week long show. | ||
| Another thing to keep in mind is that what has been covered does have a lot to do with damages in that aspect of this case. | ||
| It's just that acknowledging that is really dangerous for Alex and Barnes. | ||
| First of all, the anguish that these people have experienced is incredibly relevant. | ||
| Secondly, the details about Alex's business operation and how things work internally demonstrate the extent to which they were aware of the profitability of acting in ways that caused that anguish. | ||
| It's all super relevant, and if Barnes really wanted a chance to deal with his stupid arguments in court, he had his shot. | ||
| I guess he could probably bring some of this stuff up to defend himself when Alex sues him for malpractice, if that ends up happening. | ||
| But yeah, probably won't. | ||
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| Who knows? | ||
| Their entire deal right now is trying to obfuscate the connection points between... | ||
| Because here's a fact. | ||
| This is how their business works. | ||
| This is a fact. | ||
| This is what they did. | ||
| This is a fact. | ||
| This is what happened. | ||
| All of those things. | ||
| There are those connecting points that the lawyers have to get to. | ||
| Here's how we directly connect those two things. | ||
| And that's the only place where they can argue. | ||
| It's just like, I'm going to attack this connection, and if I can't attack the connection, I'm going to attack whatever the space around it is. | ||
| Or you could yell Hillary. | ||
| Well, I mean, it's all Hillary. | ||
| That's what connects all of them. | ||
| Well, I mean, Alex, I think you could argue he's afraid of Hillary. | ||
| Actually, you couldn't. | ||
| Alex is not afraid of anything. | ||
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| This song should be evidence. | ||
| Put it in there! | ||
| He won't change! | ||
| He's playing the song! | ||
| Listen, listeners. | ||
| You want somebody to take on the globalist? | ||
| You want somebody that's fearless? | ||
| I don't even see that as a good point in my life, but I am fearless. | ||
| My dad was known as Brave Dave. | ||
| What? | ||
| And I just can't help it. | ||
| I don't have fear. | ||
| The only fear I got is the fear of failure. | ||
| Brave Dave the Dentist. | ||
| These gentlemen. | ||
| And we are now on the front lines of the fight against the new world order. | ||
| And you want to back your family? | ||
| You want to back the future? | ||
| You want to fund something that's at the tip of the spear that's slashing and crushing and under total attack and who loves it? | ||
| We're it, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| So go now to 1776coin.com as a fundraiser. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Get the coin. | ||
| They sell coffee mugs for more than this on NPR fundraisers. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Yeah, you know, there is something about a good jam that either makes you want to dance or say inspirational yelling things. | ||
| You know what, though? | ||
| I mean, it is true that NPR sells memberships and you get gifts with the memberships that would cost less if you just bought them at a store like a mug or something. | ||
| There's a slight difference, though, and I don't think I would be super into paying that much for a mug if Kai Rizdahl was desperately yelling at me to buy the mug so we can pay his legal expenses to fight a lawsuit that he's already lost about how he defends. | ||
| Family members of murdered children. | ||
| Then I don't think I would get into the pledge drive. | ||
| He's just like, hey, Marketplace is a show that I do. | ||
| Just so everybody knows, we're doing our fundraiser right now. | ||
| We're opening subscriptions for as many people as we can because we have been sued by... | ||
| The families of Remington's owners. | ||
| And really, it is just Hillary Clinton that is trying to destroy us. | ||
| There's something about the PBS voice. | ||
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You know, we're not allowed to defend ourselves in court. | |
| And the connections between these law firms and Hillary are very clear. | ||
| It's a kangaroo court. | ||
| They have already decided. | ||
| Lord knows I don't change! | ||
| So Barnes has some choice words for the conservatives out there who aren't helping. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And then Alex says something that confused me. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All of the conservative institutional press, anybody that's involved on the legal side should be embarrassed and humiliated that they're defending this case. | ||
| I dare any of them to watch yesterday's proceeding and call that a fair trial, to call that the beacon of American civil justice. | ||
| America's justice system is supposed to be the beacon of justice to the world. | ||
| And right now it looks like a dystopian nightmare. | ||
| It looks like Venezuela. | ||
| I mean, I've seen Venezuelan show trials. | ||
| Alex, what Venezuelan show trials have you seen? | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Venezuelan show trials. | ||
| Name one. | ||
| There was Hugo Chavez. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was tried in Venezuela. | ||
| Which one? | ||
| What trial are we talking about here? | ||
| The one where that was a show trial. | ||
| And Alex watched that? | ||
| He watched the whole thing. | ||
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I just think that's silly. | |
| Castro, he was on trial? | ||
| So anyway, fuck Barnes. | ||
| He's out. | ||
| And Alex has another guest. | ||
| And it's our boy Roger. | ||
| And he has an interesting take. | ||
| This shocked me. | ||
| It's too blunt. | ||
| It's bizarre. | ||
| It's about something that we're not supposed to talk about on Infowars. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Let's get into the waterfront here. | ||
| I'm going to try to give you the floor. | ||
| One of the things that's disturbing me right now, Alex, are the actions of Peter Thiel. | ||
| For those of you who don't know, Peter Thiel is a billionaire, was a major financier of Donald Trump's candidacy. | ||
| So real quick, just to butt in here, Peter Thiel's not a name that is usually brought up on Infowars. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Second... | ||
| You're not supposed to acknowledge that Peter Thiel was a giant funder of Trump's campaign. | ||
| Well, he was self-funded with Peter Thiel's money. | ||
| Right, but associating this right-wing billionaire guy with funding Trump is not something that is generally unacceptable, but Roger's bringing it out. | ||
| But he has some other problems. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| And he stepped forward essentially to underwrite at tens of millions of dollars the endorsements of J.D. Vance for the U.S. Senate in Ohio and Blake Masters in Arizona. | ||
| I might add that I very strongly support, both of them America first candidates. | ||
| But having financed their nominations. | ||
| Mr. Thiel is now declining to finance their general election efforts, and both of them are behind their opponents slightly and behind their opponents in fundraising. | ||
| Mr. Thiel comes forward and says, well, the Republican Party has not defined enough of a positive image, a positive program for this election. | ||
| Alex, all elections are about the incumbent party, about the job that is being done. | ||
| By congressional Democrats in combination with the Biden White House. | ||
| So, Roger, his problem with Peter Thiel is that he gave these guys a bunch of money in order to run their primary campaigns. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And now they are unpopular and not raising money, and Peter Thiel isn't continuing to give them millions of dollars to prop up their general campaigns. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's an interesting gripe. | ||
| No, here's the problem, okay? | ||
| These candidates... | ||
| All right? | ||
| Sold themselves to a billionaire. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And the billionaire bought them. | ||
| But then the billionaire tossed them away. | ||
| That's not fair. | ||
| Replace this with a Democratic candidate and George Soros. | ||
| Here's how much it costs to own a politician. | ||
| It might as well be what he's saying. | ||
| Would you like to own a politician? | ||
| This is silly. | ||
| Here's how much you have to spend. | ||
| Roger. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Roger. | ||
| Anyway, Roger has some other complaints. | ||
| This one about Kevin McCarthy? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Please continue. | ||
| Just give us your analysis. | ||
| That's what I want of the 2022 midterms. | ||
| And then secondarily, you have Kevin McCarthy, who kind of following in the footsteps of Newt Gingrich, has put forward a proposal that is kind of reminiscent of the contract for America. | ||
| The problem with this is, In order to have a policy statement broad enough for every Republican to support, all one needs to do is to look at the flip side of the Biden administration. | ||
| In other words, I disagree with putting forward pale pastels. | ||
| We need to have a bold policy, but it's easily defined as being the direct opposite of that which the Democrats are for. | ||
| See, Roger is really smart here. | ||
| You can create a fake version of your enemy and then define yourself as the opposite of it and trick people into supporting you for no reason. | ||
| It's basically the story of Alex's career. | ||
| He's just like, hey, guys, stop it. | ||
| Just say you're the opposite of this. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We don't like this. | ||
| But, I mean, all this is basically Roger, his entire take on the midterms in this interview is just classic Roger. | ||
| Attack. | ||
| Don't defend ever. | ||
| Attack. | ||
| If this midterm is going to be about us being worried about your trial, about the Sandy Hook stuff, about Bannon getting arrested, about Mike Lindell's phone being taken away, Trump being in trouble, the Mar-a-Lago raid, if we're going to play those games at all, we're fucked. | ||
| We need to just attack Biden on everything. | ||
| I mean, it's just classic Roger Stone tactics. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| It's not interesting. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I mean, it would be better if he was like, it reminds me of whenever I was an intern for Nixon's campaign, and he was like, should we just say whites only? | ||
| And I was like, no, don't say it. | ||
| To find yourself in opposition to... | ||
| Reminds me when I was hanging out with a young Ben Stein. | ||
| And I said, are you going to say whites only on your show? | ||
| And he said, no, no, no, not today. | ||
| So Alex wants to know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The big question. | ||
| Is Trump running, bro? | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Roger Stone. | ||
| Trump. | ||
| We know he told a lot of people, including you and MTG, in early July he was set to announce. | ||
| And he said, well, I'm going to run, but I'm not going to announce when. | ||
| Well, that's an announcement to run. | ||
| Then they created all this lawfare and all these fake criminal charges. | ||
| Try to go after him. | ||
| What is the inside baseball currently on Trump running, and is the announcement intimate, or what's unfolding? | ||
| Alex, the only thing that's predictable about Donald J. Trump is that he's entirely unpredictable. | ||
| In a certain sense, the assault on his home in Mar-a-Lago has galvanized his support so that I don't think an immediate announcement of candidacy is either in the offing. | ||
| Or necessarily desirable. | ||
| So maybe it'll be a little while. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I mean, I am now enlisting the Mad Hatter to run for president because if the only thing that you guys need is that it's unpredictable, dude, I've got news for you. | ||
| Yeah, you don't want a steady hand. | ||
| Jesus Christ! | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| So Roger doesn't think that Trump's necessarily going to announce anytime soon. | ||
| And they weren't wrong to play around about how he's going to do it on the 4th of July. | ||
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No, that's totally fine. | |
| It's totally very cool. | ||
| Yeah, it's super awesome. | ||
| But yeah, looks like Roger's got another definite prediction. | ||
| I happen to believe that Governor Ron DeSantis, the governor of Florida, my governor, intends to announce his candidacy literally. | ||
| Immediately after the election, and I think the president needs to remain mindful of that. | ||
| I still think it is more likely than not that he will be a candidate. | ||
| I just heard a record-skipping noise. | ||
| We're going to put this on the front of the interview once it's posted to Bandai video. | ||
| Roger Stone is rarely wrong about his political analysis. | ||
| You're saying you're inside baseball, or is that just your opinion? | ||
| DeSantis will announce after the midterms in 56 days. | ||
| That's hard intelligence, Alex. | ||
| That's not just my instinct. | ||
| That's hard intelligence. | ||
| And by the way, as President Donald Trump has said, Ron DeSantis has the right to do that. | ||
| It's his prerogative to run if he wishes to run. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Trump said it was cool. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| He has Trump's permission to run. | ||
| What a good boy. | ||
| What a good boy he's been. | ||
| He got a pat on the head. | ||
| So it's hard intel. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
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Jesus. | |
| Actually, I mean, I wouldn't be too surprised if that does end up... | ||
| No, it would make sense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It wouldn't make as much sense if he did it on the 4th of July. | ||
| Taking back America, man. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| So, Alex has another idea about this. | ||
| What about my sources that say they've got a secret agreement to run together? | ||
| The Electoral College prevents that. | ||
| They're both from Florida. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| You cannot have a president and a vice president from the same state because if you do, you would forfeit the electoral votes of Florida's 27 votes. | ||
| That's too precious for us to do. | ||
| But couldn't Trump just swing back saying he lives in New York again? | ||
| Do you think he wants to pay New York state income taxes? | ||
| I think not. | ||
| Well, this president seems cool. | ||
| I mean, sure, a billionaire? | ||
| Do you think he wants to pay a slight percentage? | ||
| Do you think that he cares enough about this country to pay more taxes? | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| The amount of grift that's open that Roger can just talk about as being a grift that's just acceptable to say is happening? | ||
| Because fuck it. | ||
| Once Roger found God, I guess maybe it's a I don't give a shit anymore. | ||
| I'm not going to lie about how I'm a liar, okay? | ||
| I'm going to tell the truth as God intended about how I lie to everyone all the time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we got some false flags coming, right? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| It's the midterms. | ||
| Back to false flags. | ||
| I'm not a rocket scientist, but I'm also not stupid. | ||
| When you've got Hillary and Democrat Party members like Tim Ryan yesterday, they're everywhere saying, Republicans are terrorists. | ||
| They're going to blow stuff up. | ||
| Republicans are illegal. | ||
| They're the biggest terror group. | ||
| It's imminent. | ||
| They're going to get us. | ||
| I mean, we saw the Whitmer staged attack. | ||
| We saw the January 6th provocateur. | ||
| It's not even 2 plus 2 equals 4. It's the number 1 is the number 1. They're obviously provocateur-ing or planning something with 55 days out. | ||
| Your take on that, and how do we counter it? | ||
| You know, as I have said here on the show and in other places, I still yet fear some other kind of manufactured health crisis, some kind of additional pandemic. | ||
| Well, you predicted that six months ago, and they tried monkeypox. | ||
| It didn't work. | ||
| But you're right. | ||
| They already tried. | ||
| They tried. | ||
| How? | ||
| They tried. | ||
| How did it not work? | ||
| They tried monkeypox because they didn't kill enough of the rest of us. | ||
| But how did that work? | ||
| If Alex has this conception that these super powerful evil people can just launch pandemics whenever they want and all this, why didn't it work, according to Alex? | ||
| What is... | ||
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How? | |
| How is there a supervillain group... | ||
| That goes through all the effort of launching a bioweapon, and then they're sitting in their bunker, their underground base, and they're like, fuck, it didn't work. | ||
| Well, well, well. | ||
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What? | |
| Now, what you need to understand, though, is that the devil is impatient, which is why he did the whole falling thing in the first place. | ||
| Ten years behind. | ||
| And he's a quitter! | ||
| Hey, listen, oh shit, the monkeypox thing, it didn't work? | ||
| Pack it up. | ||
| Pack it up. | ||
| We're on to the next idea. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's pinky in the brain. | ||
| This is stupid. | ||
| That is who Alex is fighting against. | ||
| So I told you we'd get back to Alex's bankruptcy strategy thing. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Yes. | ||
| And how it's dicey. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And that comes here. | ||
| This is after Roger leaves, and there's a weird tone. | ||
| We'll discuss that here in a minute. | ||
| But first, bankruptcy thing. | ||
| The strategy in the last fake trial, where I'm already found guilty a month ago in this new one, where the judge is promising to hold me in contempt before I even get there next week, is that I have hundreds of millions of dollars. | ||
| On my children, I don't have a million and a half dollars in the bank. | ||
| And as big an operation as this is, that's like on E. And I don't want to get into all this, but... | ||
| Just a week ago, we were like, hey, we're doing well in the Chapter 5 bankruptcy. | ||
| All we got to do is prove we're profitable. | ||
| And then whatever judgments they have can't shut us down. | ||
| Just whatever profit there is in the future, these jerks get. | ||
| But who cares? | ||
| We're on air. | ||
| We don't care about money. | ||
| And they're openly saying, get rid of the bankruptcy, just shut him down to the bankruptcy judge. | ||
| The judge is like, whoa, that's not what you're supposed to do. | ||
| So if you understand what he's saying, basically what he's trying to do in bankruptcy court is artificially inflate the amount of money that's coming into the business to make it appear that he's profitable and solvent by just doing these things like... | ||
| You know, the release of the book and the 1776 coin. | ||
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Sure. | |
| All this stuff, just like really pushing that shit hard in order to... | ||
| And the presenting things as a fundraiser. | ||
|
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Sure. | |
| The overpricedness of the coin, the markup on the book and stuff. | ||
| These things are in order to create the appearance of a business doing well so he can coast through the bankruptcy court. | ||
| And make it... | ||
| He won't be able to keep it up after that. | ||
| But then, ideally, I guess, his image of it is that, like, they won't crush me. | ||
| I'll just not have money to give them later or something. | ||
| It's a bad strategy, but I also think it feels fraudulent. | ||
| I mean, it does feel like Alex is just coming out and saying on his show, I'm betting they won't find all my money. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, he might as well be like, listen, I've hidden a lot of money. | ||
| They're not going to find all of it. | ||
| Like, that might as well be what he's saying. | ||
| It does feel that way, yeah. | ||
| And we'll be able to, like, just sort of... | ||
| Sully Sullenberger land this thing. | ||
| It's not going to be a runway. | ||
| Listen, it's not going to be great. | ||
| Nobody's going to be happy. | ||
| People will survive. | ||
| We're going to get awards when we land this thing, because it is impossible to land. | ||
| So we have one last clip here, and this just really captures the vibe towards the end of the show. | ||
| It's a bummer. | ||
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We were just... | |
| Lord, I cannot change! | ||
| You say that you want to go to the land that's far away. | ||
| How are we supposed to get there with the way that we're living today? | ||
| You talk lots about God. | ||
| Freedom comes from the car But that's not what This is not what I want at all I want to be I want you to be The crimes of the vaccine poison will bring to the New World Order or will bring us down. | ||
| The battle is now joined as they try to openly kill us. | ||
| All right, let's play some clips here. | ||
| This isn't about Alex Jones. | ||
| It's about the murder of free speech, the murder of your process. | ||
| Here is the judge, the puppet judge, the plaintiffs that have already found us guilty. | ||
| Now they still want a fake show trial on the damages, trying to pre-screen my lawyer's questions. | ||
| You wonder why my lawyer in Texas couldn't talk. | ||
| He was threatened with sanctions if he did. | ||
| So he just plays clips from the trial by himself and comes in for break with his weird Lana Del Rey thing. | ||
| But here's the vibe. | ||
| It's like he's had his friends on. | ||
| And they had a party. | ||
| You know, like Barnes and him were talking about the case and they're having fun. | ||
| He's coming in with, like, a free bird. | ||
| Now he's looking at his empty bottles on the counter. | ||
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Exactly! | |
| Yes! | ||
| It's the end of the night. | ||
|
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Oh, man. | |
| It's fucked up. | ||
| He's got the bag. | ||
| He's putting shit in there. | ||
| Like, I can't believe they left all this stuff on the floor. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| It's 3 a.m., 4 a.m. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He's... | ||
| Still drunk. | ||
| Gin drunk. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| He's gin drunk. | ||
| He's just like, all my friends have gone home. | ||
| I'm here alone. | ||
| I have to soothe myself by doing an amazing duet. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| And then just complaining about my own victimhood by myself. | ||
| If that was a commercial and Alex was like sitting on a bus with his head leaning against the window as the song played and he just... | ||
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Money. | |
| Power. | ||
| Like, that's what... | ||
| Zoloft. | ||
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Like, that's what you're looking for. | |
| It just had the vibe. | ||
| I can't stress this enough. | ||
| It felt so much like a guy whose friends have left, but he still is drunk and has to finish something. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, there's something that, like, there's a deadline. | ||
| He has, like, ten minutes he has left to do of his show. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So he can't stop. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| He could just play a special report, but he wants to complain about how he's getting jammed up. | ||
| No, he's still got two shots left in the vodka bottle, and he's just sitting there. | ||
| It's right in front of him, and he's getting sadder. | ||
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He should go to bed. | |
| Oh, I can just go to bed at any time. | ||
| I can drink these tomorrow night. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No big deal. | ||
| But, I mean, I'm just not going to let him sit there. | ||
| It made me sad. | ||
| They're so lonely. | ||
| It made me sad. | ||
| But then I realized that I don't really care. | ||
| It's Alex. | ||
| I don't have much pity. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, I would say that the first couple days of the trial have been quite interesting. | ||
| Two days of just the plaintiff's attorney questioning corporate representative Brittany Paz. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They ended with, there's still probably, you know, tomorrow, Friday, probably still going to be some questioning of Paz. | ||
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Could be. | |
| And then there's going to be cross-examination, or, you know, like Norm's going to get to come in there and ask some questions. | ||
| I can't even imagine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Paz, do you like me? | ||
| That's the only question I could think of. | ||
| Am I cool? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How do you feel about that check I sent you? | ||
| Not big enough, is it? | ||
| Hey, do you want to come work for me? | ||
| We offer a lot of fringe benefits. | ||
| Woke insurance. | ||
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Oh, man. | |
| You're never going to stop. | ||
| He did it. | ||
| He started it. | ||
| I know. | ||
| So, yeah. | ||
| We'll be back on Monday with a check-in on Alex's Thursday and Friday. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| We're going to try and keep up with things going on during the trial. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which is unfortunate, because this show sucks. | ||
| But, hey, it is what it is. | ||
| Sometimes you get to hear him sadly singing along with Planet L. Ray. | ||
| So, we'll be back, Jordan. | ||
| But until then, we have a website. | ||
| We do! | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| We're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| A lot of people are missing your live tweeting. | ||
| I don't think they are. | ||
| They want you to fight with Barnes. | ||
| I don't think they do. | ||
| They want you to fight with Norm. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| We'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| I'm Wilford Snibble Snabble of the Gribble Pebble. | ||
| And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |