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Sept. 19, 2022 - Knowledge Fight
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#726: September 15-16, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan get underwhelmed by the end of Alex's week.  As his trial continues in Connecticut, things are sluggish in Austin, where Alex is mostly spending his time carrying water for Ron DeSantis's recent disgraceful publicity stunt. Citations Dreamy Creamy Fundraiser

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a
alex jones
12:27
d
dan friesen
38:26
j
jordan holmes
20:23
Appearances
m
mike lindell
02:06
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j
josh hawley
00:17
s
steve quayle
00:02
t
tucker carlson
00:07
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your room.
unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody!
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
unidentified
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan, quick question for you.
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot today, Jordan, is I found a great show.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
I need something to be watching while I play with the buttons.
unidentified
Sure, naturally.
dan friesen
Play with the buttons.
jordan holmes
Play with the buttons.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I had Survivor last time around.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Which was great, because I made it all the way through.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And hurrah.
jordan holmes
I very legally got you some New Zealand Survivor, I believe.
dan friesen
Yes.
Yes.
Have you watched that?
I've not tapped into that yet.
I actually forgot that I had that, and I would also like to say...
alex jones
Thank you, Jordan.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
dan friesen
Thanks for getting those from me.
So I was looking around on Paramount Plus, and I saw that they had Unsolved Mysteries.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And so I went back and I've watched a couple of those.
I was texting you about how everything seems to happen at gas stations.
All these crimes are happening at gas stations.
Stay away from gas stations.
jordan holmes
That's where they are.
dan friesen
Back in the 90s, stay away from a fucking gas station.
jordan holmes
Everybody needed gas, so it was like the town square.
alex jones
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So it's like, okay, execution-style murder.
Right.
And then the next story is about, we found...
I found a bag of mail.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And I said, I'm out.
jordan holmes
We'll never know where this mail is.
dan friesen
This show is so tonally inconsistent, I am not gonna watch any of this shit.
jordan holmes
It was like a palate cleanser, you know?
Like, oh, this is execution-style murder.
That's very, very terrifying.
But this innocuous mail...
dan friesen
Also, maybe there's ghosts.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's probably bad.
dan friesen
So I decided to skip away from that, and I found this show called Contraption Master.
And it is great.
It is a game show.
jordan holmes
Who got that name through?
dan friesen
It's a little clunky.
jordan holmes
Contraption master?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh boy!
dan friesen
So there's this guy who kind of looks like a friendly, happy British Al Pacino.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And he's hosting a show where two teams compete to create contraptions.
So the first episode, they have to, like, I think it's they have to get this tea kettle turned on from the tub.
jordan holmes
So it's all Rube Goldberg.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
All Rube Goldberg machines.
Okay.
dan friesen
Three room Rube Goldberg machines.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
They have three days, one day in each room to make these elaborate contraptions.
jordan holmes
I love it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And the guy who judges it every episode, he's like a world-famous contraption maker.
jordan holmes
I'm unimpeachably great.
dan friesen
I think it's called a chain reaction machine, is what they call it in more official circles.
jordan holmes
You just can't call it a Rube Goldberg machine for the rest of your life.
dan friesen
But what I respect about it is even he is like...
I love these things because they're so cartoonish.
You know, at least there's a recognition of how ridiculous this is.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But they have a great respect for, like, explaining to the audience, like, physics a little bit.
You know, there's the, like, here's why this works.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
Or whatever.
jordan holmes
The centrifugal force and all of those kind of fun things.
dan friesen
Yeah, so there's a light educational aspect to it.
But it's so fun.
I really, really like it.
jordan holmes
I mean, here's what happened was the British Bake Off exploded.
Exploded.
And then Britain has slowly clawed through every possible thing that they could get a small group of people to do competitively.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, they've gone through pottery.
They've gone through gardening.
They've gone through...
I mean, it's absurd.
dan friesen
And I'll watch most of them.
jordan holmes
I will, too!
I don't know how they do it!
dan friesen
Yeah, the contraption one's good.
jordan holmes
That's great.
dan friesen
I recommend it.
jordan holmes
I appreciate...
Again, I don't know how they got that name through there.
dan friesen
No, contraption master is not...
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Yeah.
I would have taken another pass at it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, at least one or two.
dan friesen
So what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is Muramasa just released a new album, and it is fantastic.
And I think you will appreciate the name.
My man, it's demon time.
dan friesen
It's demon time?
jordan holmes
It's demon time.
dan friesen
Oh, shit.
jordan holmes
It's not a demon feast.
dan friesen
Okay, is it bye-bye time?
unidentified
It's...
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I think there's something...
dan friesen
Is that one of the tracks?
jordan holmes
It's bye-bye time?
I think it might be, honestly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Something like that.
But, yeah, it's fantastic.
Really, really good.
dan friesen
Here's what's great about this.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
I have no idea who this is.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And if I were to guess what genre it is.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Give me a hot or cold as I guess the genre.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Classical.
jordan holmes
No, but that's also, that is possible.
dan friesen
But I'm saying hot or cold.
jordan holmes
Oh, cold.
dan friesen
Cold.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Quite cold.
jordan holmes
Quite cold.
dan friesen
Hip-hop.
unidentified
Hot.
dan friesen
Hot.
jordan holmes
Hotter, yes.
dan friesen
Instrumental hip-hop.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
Here's the problem with that.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Yes and no.
dan friesen
Ah.
Jazz.
Hip hop.
jordan holmes
Ding, ding, ding.
dan friesen
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Jazz hop.
I mean, he's a producer, so it's electro.
You know, it's whenever a producer does a hip-hop album, it's about how spectacular they can make all of the beats and stuff.
dan friesen
Is it instrumental, or is there vocals?
jordan holmes
He used to be all instrumental, and now he's got vocalists coming out the wazoo because he's getting big.
dan friesen
Okay.
Maybe I'll check that out.
I do enjoy...
Some of that genre?
jordan holmes
Yeah, his track Love Sick Fuck went all over the place.
It was an amazing track.
Really, really good.
dan friesen
Look, I have no problem with that title.
I'm not a square.
jordan holmes
It sounds like you're a square.
dan friesen
I just remember how funny I thought it was when Akon and Eminem came out with that song, I Wanna Fuck You.
It's just like...
Why?
What is this?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You're adults.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
This is ridiculous.
See, I appreciated that.
What makes me laugh.
dan friesen
You want this to be on the radio.
jordan holmes
What makes me laugh is not that.
That I appreciate for directness.
dan friesen
Or was that the one with Snoop?
That might have been the one with Snoop Dogg.
I'm not sure.
jordan holmes
The one that makes me laugh is Let's Make Love.
Parentheses with Tim McGraw.
Faith Hill and Tim McGraw did a duet called Let's Make Love.
It's titled Let's Make Love Parentheses with Tim McGraw.
I don't know why.
That's the worst thing I've ever heard.
dan friesen
It's an invitation.
unidentified
It's terrible.
jordan holmes
It's terrible.
What are you doing?
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over and it too is terrible.
Yeah, I believe it.
Yeah, we're going to be talking about the end of last week, Thursday and Friday, the 15th and 16th of September.
And, you know, trying to track the...
Goings on of Alex on his show as the trial progresses.
Not much.
Not much going on.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we've lived in reality during this time.
What's he been living in?
dan friesen
Not much.
jordan holmes
That's kind of what I was expecting.
dan friesen
It's dumb.
But it's not dumb in an interesting way.
It's kind of like...
Blustery, but not in a font.
I don't know.
There's not a lot, is what I'm saying.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Spare picking on those bones.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And Tuesday, I believe, is when Alex has said that he's going to Connecticut.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So I foresee that probably this whole week, Alex isn't going to be at studio.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
He said that Alex Stein is hosting for him on Tuesday.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
That troll guy.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
God damn.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That name's too close to a comic that we know.
It's not Alex Stein.
No, it's not Ben Stein!
dan friesen
Alex Stone?
jordan holmes
Well, there's definitely that.
dan friesen
I think that's a comic that we knew.
jordan holmes
No, I think it's, yeah.
dan friesen
Weird.
So, I don't know.
We'll go through this.
We'll see what happens.
unidentified
Yeah, let's do it.
dan friesen
But first, let's say hello to some wonks.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
So first, Euphrie Mateus is a Jefferson Scholar.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
I think that they sent that phonetically spelled out.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or like, you know, how I'm supposed to say it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But I accidentally read the dashes as like...
unidentified
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Slowing down.
So I think it's you, Free Mateo.
Ooh, never mind.
Didn't want to try it again.
jordan holmes
Go back.
alex jones
Ham Knight.
dan friesen
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
That's safe for waters.
Ham night is much safer waters.
dan friesen
Next, Mac, formerly known as Trash Panda Coot, doing business as your mom pegging your dad.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
That was my favorite song title from Eminem and Snoop Dogg.
That was a good one, yeah.
dan friesen
Next, Ed wraps it in electrical tape.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
unidentified
Thank you!
dan friesen
Next, congratulations to Molly for getting her doctorate.
That happened last year.
I apologize.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Congratulations!
Next, my friend Julius Lynch.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
And I know that we're always behind on stuff.
jordan holmes
Always behind.
dan friesen
And so what I thought we would do is flip the script and be early.
jordan holmes
Okay, see.
dan friesen
So we got an anniversary message that's early.
How about that?
jordan holmes
I love it.
I love it.
dan friesen
The alternative really is that we do it in six months.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, once we know about it, it either happens or it doesn't.
dan friesen
This is from Jesse for Caro.
Happy first anniversary.
This is on October 18th, so we're about a month ahead of this one.
jordan holmes
All right, good news.
dan friesen
I know my country is crazy, but at least we have Dan and Jordan.
Hey, that's us.
To listen to.
Looking forward to visiting Germany again as soon as we can.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
I have risen above my enemies.
I might quit tomorrow, actually.
I'm just going to take a little breaky now.
A little breaky for me.
And then we're going to come back.
And I'm going to start the show over.
But I'm the devil!
I've got to be taken out of here!
Fuck you!
Fuck you!
I've got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your New World Order, and fuck the horse you rode in on, and all your shit!
Maybe today should be my last broadcast.
Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.
Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow, and you never see me again.
That's really what I want to do.
I never want to come back here again.
I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air.
I'll be better tomorrow.
dan friesen
It's not really.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
No.
So here, Jordan, is an out-of-contract drop from today's show, and I think this fits for just about any time Alex has a guest.
alex jones
Okay.
We have a special guest coming up next hour.
Moron.
dan friesen
Yep.
Alright.
That's always...
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
Alright.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So, we start here on the 15th, where Alex begins, and it's getting repetitive.
alex jones
The globalist Great Reset empire is on the run.
The Great Reset and the War of the World is now number one on Amazon, number one book in the world, topping all charts, thanks to the people's hunger for the truth.
tucker carlson
The New York Times, it's really a philosophical question.
jordan holmes
Let's see.
tucker carlson
How drunk was the guy you saw passed out in the men's room at a Packers game?
dan friesen
Yep, so we got this going on again.
jordan holmes
Still playing the Tucker clip.
dan friesen
Yeah, multiple times on this day.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, I'm starting to get offended on behalf of Packer fans.
unidentified
Who's Tucker to talk shit to Packer fans?
jordan holmes
Honest people at a Green Bay stadium?
Come on, man.
dan friesen
Plus, it's cold out.
jordan holmes
It is cold!
Oh, Tucker probably frees to death he doesn't have anything.
He's got nothing on a Packer fan.
dan friesen
Also, I decided to check in here with the books on Amazon.
And when we last checked, Alex was at number five on Amazon.
Jeanette McCurdy, number four.
jordan holmes
Killing it.
dan friesen
Steve Doocy, number two.
jordan holmes
Amazing.
dan friesen
Cookbook.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Steve Doocy has arisen to number one with his cookbook.
jordan holmes
What is...
unidentified
What is it going to take for the world to make sense to me?
jordan holmes
Ah, okay.
Here's what I need, alright?
I'm a huge fan of Steve Doocy.
But not for his political takes, man.
dan friesen
His wife has some great recipes.
jordan holmes
It's for his political bakes.
dan friesen
That's what we're here for.
Jeanette McCurdy, number five.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Dropped a little bit.
unidentified
Dropped a little bit.
That's tough.
dan friesen
It's been out for a few weeks.
jordan holmes
Yeah, sticking with it.
Good for her.
dan friesen
Alex is at number 12. Ooh, down out of the top ten.
A little bit of a slide.
jordan holmes
Out of the top ten.
dan friesen
I think the interest in that book has probably...
jordan holmes
Blown over.
dan friesen
It's probably done what it's gonna do.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know?
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
I'm trying to look through this list, see if there's anything else interesting.
jordan holmes
I mean, I could see it becoming like a posthumous thing, you know?
People didn't really appreciate James Joyce until after he was dead.
And I think, having not read the book...
I can only compare it to what I assume is its closest literary equivalent, which is Ulysses.
So I'm imagining that...
dan friesen
The Portrait of an Artist as a Dumb Fuck.
That's Alex's book.
jordan holmes
That's a good one.
Austiners, that could be a good one.
dan friesen
Nipping on Alex's heels.
The Very Hungry Caterpillar.
Number 13. Just behind Alex in terms of Amazon sales.
jordan holmes
What are you going to do?
dan friesen
So congratulations on that.
unidentified
Maybe.
dan friesen
Maybe it's a little past time to stop tooting your own horn on this one.
jordan holmes
Maybe a little bit.
dan friesen
So, Alex has a very exciting guest coming up later.
alex jones
It's Thursday, September 15, 2022.
I'm your host, Alex Jones.
We have a huge guest who worked at Health and Human Services and was an advisor to President Trump who warned him about Operation Warp Speed and who witnessed...
Birx and Fauci and others bragging how they were setting Trump up for a fall.
This is going to be a huge in-studio interview in two hours or an hour and 50 minutes or so at...
1 p.m. Central Standard Time.
dan friesen
Really hyping this thing up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this is Dr. Paul Alexander.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He's been, I think he's been on before, or at least Alex has talked about him because we've covered him.
He's the guy who was like a radio guest.
That was beloved by one of the people in Trump's administration, Caputo, Michael Caputo.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And so he got brought in as an advisor to the HHS.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And he was the guy who was like, give everyone COVID.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
We need to get herd immunity now.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And so we've already talked about it.
I don't know.
His interview is just like, I thought everyone should get sick.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
That was a...
dan friesen
Protect the really vulnerable people in society and then just let everyone get it.
Damn the torpedoes kind of thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And it's not an interesting interview.
It's not groundbreaking at all.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I would say somebody essentially arguing for a culling of human beings is probably not going to give a good interview.
dan friesen
Well, I can kind of understand where the thought comes from.
I can kind of understand.
I think it's misguided.
But the notion of having a discussion about whether herd immunity is the right way to go at the beginning of an outbreak, I can understand that.
One of the reasons that I think...
Especially now, as we've gotten further on, I think one of the reasons why you wouldn't necessarily want to do that, particularly with a really novel, unknown thing, is you don't know these after effects.
You don't know what syndromes can be caused or brought on by having the virus.
And there's a lot of unknown unknowns, as it were.
jordan holmes
I mean, I come from it from this place of saying, like...
What is the point of living in the fucking future if your plan for dealing with a pandemic is still like, hey, let's all get together and have a party and get sick and then it'll be over.
dan friesen
Let it be.
Great Beatles song.
Not good health strategy.
jordan holmes
There's computers in space?
There's computers in space and I still have to get sick?
Bullshit.
No.
Refuse.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, you could just ask Alex to get the globalists health machines or whatever.
unidentified
See, that's what I'm saying.
dan friesen
The cures.
Magic cures.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
So there's some big news going on, and that is that Ron DeSantis is a fuckhead.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's a Nazi.
dan friesen
And he sent immigrants to Martha's Vineyard.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep.
dan friesen
Some have described this as human trafficking.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is.
I don't know how this isn't a crime that we're arresting him for.
You can't lie to people, put them in a plane, and then send them to a different state.
That's lying, and that's bad on, like, a legal level on some way, right?
dan friesen
I think so.
jordan holmes
It has to be.
dan friesen
Alex loves it.
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
Something where the people are striking back with common sense.
The governor of Texas finally doing something good.
The governor of Sanis of Florida doing a...
Continuing to do great stuff.
Are delivering illegal aliens to Kamala Harris' house, and also, that's Texas doing that, and to Martha's Vineyard, one of the most elite areas in the country where Barack Obama and all these other globalists have giant mansions.
dan friesen
Yeah, so, I mean, like, you know, if you want to look at this as human trafficking, Alex thinks that's a good common-sense political tool.
That's cool.
So Ron DeSantis should be in prison for this stunt that he's pulled, which Alex is fully in favor of.
Because he has an opposition to immigration, DeSantis chartered two flights and sent immigrants to Martha's Vineyard, specifically because it's an area that's a symbol of rich liberal elites.
You can see how that shorthand is very clear in the way that Alex describes the place.
If that all wasn't bad enough, the immigrants were lied to about where they were going.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
One of them told reporters, quote, Another said, quote, According to Domingo Garcia, the president of the League of United Latin American Citizens, the people who were being used as political props were even given fake documents that were meant to fool them into thinking that there was a more official backing to the idea that jobs and housing were waiting for them.
Interestingly, according to NPR, these flights were paid for by DeSantis, but originated in Texas, which does seem to imply some level of fucked-up coordination between him and Texas Governor Abbott, or else, I guess, maybe...
Is this interstate kidnapping?
jordan holmes
Am I understanding this story correctly?
So, by DeSantis' behest, a group of people...
dan friesen
Chartered.
jordan holmes
And paid for.
A group of people were lied to, were told that they were going to be given a better life if they got on this plane.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And then they landed and it was a...
A stunt.
Yeah, and then fucking...
Like, that's what happened.
More or less.
And then we're all going to act like that's not a crime that if you or I did would be a crime crime?
dan friesen
It would be a wild thing.
jordan holmes
It would be an illegal thing for me to do.
dan friesen
NPR talked to some of the immigrants, and here's their description.
Quote, Sure.
to all this horrific bullshit, they didn't inform, like the folks doing this transportation to these migrants didn't inform officials in Martha's Vineyard of the people's arrival, specifically so they could be caught off guard and chaos would be more likely because that's the goal here.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
This is an unacceptable and debased level of political theater where we need to stop as a country and recognize that things have just gotten too far.
And the things that we're accepting are really far past what's decent.
The fact that the organizers of this stunt, which involves fraud, potential human trafficking, and possibly some other crimes, the fact that they haven't been arrested already is a fucking bummer.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's insane.
dan friesen
The game that's being played here is really simple.
Ron DeSantis wanted to send immigrants to liberal areas because he hates immigrants and he thinks that liberals are all talk when it comes to supporting immigration.
Unfortunately, if he were to inform officials in these liberal areas that immigrants were coming, they would be able to prepare and accommodate them, which wouldn't really cause any problems, and there isn't propaganda value in that.
However, if you don't tell officials and you defraud the migrants with promises of housing and work, then you create a situation where the officials in the liberal area you're targeting are going to be outraged.
They're going to be super offended that you would do this to people and likely speak out against you for it.
Then, you ignore their criticism about how what you did was fraud and possibly human trafficking and pretend they're just mad at you because you sent immigrants to their precious liberal enclave.
You then sell that message to your audience to reinforce your narrative that in reality, no one wants immigrants around and liberals are just lying about it.
Fuck this shit, fuck these people, and fuck Alex and his inability to even be consistent on the one big thing he's supposed to be caring about so much.
The king of human trafficking, corruption, sniffing it out.
He doesn't care about any of his principles, he claims, mean so much.
They're all negotiable, and there's a chance to, quote, own the libs.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or to advance extreme right-wing politics.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, it is nice to be reminded that laws are...
Pretend, though, and that all you really need to do is amass enough power in a small enough area that you can control that you can get away with doing whatever it is you want.
I mean, laws don't mean anything if they're not arrested.
I mean, I appreciate that we're all up in arms about the Supreme Court's rulings, but if Ron DeSantis can do that, then all you really need to do to get an abortion is get a bunch of people around you with guns and then go get an abortion and then shoot somebody if they try to stop you.
dan friesen
DeSantis is gonna win.
jordan holmes
Fucking insane.
dan friesen
The re-election.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
It's not that he's going to go to prison.
He's going to win re-election and maybe be a contestant in the 2024 presidential election.
jordan holmes
I refuse to believe laws matter.
It's over.
dan friesen
I try to imagine myself in a younger time, like, I don't know, 10, 15 years ago.
Experiencing some of this stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's like, nah, this is...
I have a tough time.
I have a tough time putting these events into other periods of time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I...
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's a mess.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Russia's losing in Ukraine now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex has known this was going to happen all week.
jordan holmes
Okay.
What?
dan friesen
What?
And there's a new story as to what's been going on.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
We also have huge news dealing with Russia.
And I mean, this news is so dangerous and so out of control, I don't even know where to begin.
They tried to kill Putin.
It turns out a month ago, Ukraine's bragging.
Russia confirms that Putin did survive an assassination attempt.
They've killed a bunch of Russian generals, Alexander Dugin's daughter, a bunch of other journalists, and they've killed a bunch of other Russian leaders.
So the globalists are in Russia assassinating people and car bombing them, shooting them, strangling them, poisoning them.
I mean, we are at war with Russia.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, what?
alex jones
On their border with high-tech weapons.
And yes, the Russians have put up a big fight, but yeah, they're losing.
And so what do Russians do when they lose?
When they start losing?
Well, Russians...
Get very coalesced and hardline, and they go crazy.
dan friesen
Now, see, this sounds like a guy who's questioning things.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
This seems like a guy who's just got questions, not a guy who's...
Saying bullshit.
jordan holmes
I mean, just making everything.
That's wild.
dan friesen
And making definitive statements.
jordan holmes
Just made up assassination attempt on Putin that he survived?
dan friesen
Well, those were rumors that were going around in blogs and shit.
unidentified
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
But yeah, that's all not confirmed stuff.
But Alex is taking it as very serious and very real.
And I bet it probably had to do with slow-acting sedatives that they were putting in Putin's Diet Coke.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
Polonium.
unidentified
Sure.
Any number of different possible...
jordan holmes
Man, it is...
Oh, we should feel bad.
We should feel bad for Russia, because they're under attack by the globalists.
That's why we feel bad?
dan friesen
Well, yeah.
I mean, this is just the way that...
Alex has decided for today to argue that Russia is the non-aggressor as a country.
So it's fun.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's great.
dan friesen
So we get the COVID narrative of the day.
We need a sound effect for that.
We should.
jordan holmes
We're going to have to.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And we're never going to do that.
But COVID story of the day!
alex jones
Even the British Medical Journal came out yesterday.
We have the article right here.
I'll show it to you in a moment.
And said, okay, we think it came out of a lab.
Well, it's known.
They scanned the virus.
It's artificial.
It's a chimeric.
It's a mix.
dan friesen
Do you believe this?
jordan holmes
That the British Medical Journal has suddenly taken a huge about face way long after it would make any sense and said that the COVID-19 came from a lab, specifically probably one in China?
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
No, I don't believe that.
dan friesen
Good instinct.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
This isn't even about the British Medical Journal.
Alex has fucked that up.
This is about an article published in The Lancet.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
They put together a commission to identify lessons for the future that we can learn from COVID, and they didn't find that it came from a lab.
From their key findings section, quote, the proximal origins of SARS-CoV-2 remain unknown.
There are two leading hypotheses that the virus emerged as a zoonotic spillover from wildlife or a farm animal, possibly through a wet market, in a location that is still undetermined.
related incident during the field collection of viruses or through a laboratory-associated escape.
Commissioners held Sure.
So that's what Alex is reporting.
jordan holmes
Ooh, man.
dan friesen
A little bit off.
jordan holmes
People who like to say definitive things do not like to read what scientists actually say.
dan friesen
No, but this still just sounds like Alex is questioning things.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, he's questioning things.
dan friesen
He's entirely wrong about the commission's findings and he has the source wrong because he doesn't know what he's talking about at all and is just making shit up as he goes along.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He sucks.
jordan holmes
That's not...
That one's bad.
That one's pretty egregious, though, to be like, see?
We already knew it was made up whenever it's not from the medical journal, and it doesn't even...
Man.
dan friesen
Brutal.
unidentified
Brutal.
dan friesen
So, Alex has a guest that's not this doctor who wants to get everyone sick.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
It is a guy who...
Let me see if I can give you a clue.
That won't give it away.
He sells pillows.
jordan holmes
Shit.
Damn.
dan friesen
That was too much of a clue.
Too good of a clue.
jordan holmes
You know, I don't remember.
I don't know.
Who invented the...
Is it NASA?
They invented the memory foam.
dan friesen
He didn't invent any pillows.
He just sells them.
jordan holmes
All right, fine.
I think I know who it is.
dan friesen
He has a mustache.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
Mike Lindell's on.
alex jones
All right, two days ago, he was on a hunting trip.
Early in the morning, stopped in to get breakfast at a Hardee's, and a bunch of FBI vehicles surrounded him.
He was told that story.
He'll recap.
He's got braking.
News now on what's happening.
He's being investigated for investigating election fraud.
I saw all these news of them finding stolen voting machines.
The FBI wouldn't even come look at it.
I guess if he was humans smuggling across the border or shipping in fentanyl or doing a drag queen story time, it'd be okay.
But because Mike Lindell is trying to have integrity and investigate election fraud, he is persona non grata.
dan friesen
No, I think that stuff that was stolen from voting machines is being investigated.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And some of Mike Lindell's associates are very likely going to go to prison.
jordan holmes
Well, see, that is where we get into an issue here.
dan friesen
This investigation is happening.
It's just not happening the way Alex wants it to.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Because they're talking about fake things.
jordan holmes
Right.
Well, I mean, what's fun about that is that this, in a backdoor way, will force them to investigate the voting machines.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, fine, we'll find...
Finally look into your bullshit so we can prove you're a crime committer.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, you know, there is an argument to be made that technology has gotten too out of hand and, you know, it takes away the ability for people to vote and have real assurance in their vote, which is why I think we need to go back to broken pieces of pottery.
jordan holmes
I think a broken piece of pottery.
dan friesen
That's a good one.
That we use to vote.
jordan holmes
That's a good one.
dan friesen
And no other system is acceptable.
jordan holmes
I would go with throw...
Bowling dog food at the prettiest person that we can find.
dan friesen
How is that a vote?
That seems more like a statement.
jordan holmes
Was yours a vote?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, okay.
Yes, I remember.
Mike...
Oh, God.
I don't even know how to fucking say this.
700 episodes ago.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
700 episodes ago, we ran into a fella.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And Mike has been defrauded by him.
mike lindell
Then he went into another question.
He goes, when did you first meet Tina Peters?
And I go, at the cyber symposium, you guys already know that?
dan friesen
He's talking about the FBI asking him questions.
mike lindell
I said, I flew in from all over our country, cyber experts, and people from around the country, politicians and stuff.
And then I said...
I said, oh, you must be talking about the Dennis Montgomery terabytes that I own now, which is sitting, by the way, everybody, in Nevada, that the government has a gag order on.
As soon as that judge lifts that, all this stuff goes away.
32 terabytes of the whole election of November 3rd to November 6th.
That's what I think they're afraid of.
dan friesen
They're not.
jordan holmes
They are not.
dan friesen
No one's afraid of anything that has anything to do with Dennis Montgomery.
Holy shit.
jordan holmes
That brings it.
dan friesen
This fucking guy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's...
That's a real full circle moment.
dan friesen
He is good at this.
He is so good at scamming these money marks on the right.
It's outrageous.
jordan holmes
He's got an M.O. Yeah.
And it's not like it's hard to...
How do you not just talk to somebody else who has been scammed by Dennis Montgomery and be like, oh, okay, never mind.
mike lindell
Right.
dan friesen
Is Joe Arpaio not in Mike Lindell's Rolodex?
jordan holmes
They all know each other.
He's scamming them one by one and they're friends.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Couldn't Alex warn him?
Alex has had run-ins with Dennis Montgomery.
jordan holmes
You know what?
Maybe they're just too embarrassed to admit that they got scammed.
So they're like, oh man, oops, you're in there with Dennis Montgomery this time?
dan friesen
I think a lot of them probably are.
jordan holmes
I think you might be right.
dan friesen
And what's shocking about it is Mike's willingness to say this came from Dennis Montgomery.
He doesn't know.
jordan holmes
He doesn't know.
dan friesen
He doesn't know that that name is something that like...
All right.
It's something that gives you a, like, oh, your argument's dumb.
This is bad.
There's nothing here.
You have invalidated your whole point by bringing a noted career con man who did, I mean, defraud the government.
Certainly.
Successfully defrauded the government.
jordan holmes
He's good at defrauding people of stuff.
He just knows who to pick to fraud.
dan friesen
But look, in the past, yes.
In the present, I don't think it takes much skill to notice that Mike Lindell is gullible and has a lot of money.
jordan holmes
He's right there.
He's right there.
For a con man to walk by Mike Lindell without trying to steal something must require superhuman levels of self-control.
dan friesen
Con card.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
You've got to try and con him out of something.
dan friesen
Oh, I got his watch.
You didn't scam Mike Lindell?
unidentified
Get out of here.
dan friesen
Give me your gun and your badge.
jordan holmes
You're not at this meeting anymore!
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
We've got to stop meeting at the American Legion.
dan friesen
So, I just can't have any conclusion other than like...
Dennis Montgomery got Mike bad.
He got him hard.
alex jones
Well, Mike, I can't think of anybody who's more Americana than you, and you're a great American, and we love you, and they're persecuting all of us together.
These massive drag nuts, they're panicking.
They're trying to get ready to steal the next election in 54 days.
I think you're dead on.
They are scared of the proof of what you've discovered.
Can you speak to that?
mike lindell
Yep, yeah.
Well, they're very worried, everybody, and I want everybody to know, you know, I've had Dennis Montgomery's terabytes for the last year and a half, and there's a reason at the cyber symposium that we were advised not to put out the China thing and all that.
What is that?
Right on stage, we had the attorney up there, and he told you why we could not drop them at that.
dan friesen
So I just want to stop it really quick, because I think there's something so fucking funny about this being the moment of truth summit.
And at the last minute, we're like, all right, we're not going to put this out.
jordan holmes
It was the moment of truth!
It was literally, it could not be more named the one thing.
It is, I mean, yeah.
mike lindell
Now time to the public.
There's a government gag order on this information.
I don't believe that that will stop me from putting it out there, because now I own all this stuff, and I bought the different stuff, the patents that Dennis Montgomery has, and one of the smartest men I've ever known, by the way.
dan friesen
Just so sad.
So sad.
There's no gag order.
There always is a gag order with Dennis Montgomery's stuff, but there isn't because it's made up.
jordan holmes
It's made up pretend nonsense.
dan friesen
I believe Mike Lindell paid probably quite a bit of money for some patents that aren't real and some information that is not good or not related or made up.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
If he weren't such a piece of shit and the information wasn't used so negatively, I mean, I wish I had defrauded this many right-wing propagandists.
That's an accomplishment.
That's an achievement that I do respect.
I think more people should screw these guys out of their money because they're dumb.
dan friesen
It is just something that is so weird, too, that he is this thing that keeps coming up.
You know?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You would not expect that this con man would just run through so many different...
jordan holmes
Still!
We haven't even talked about him in forever!
dan friesen
It's been a while.
jordan holmes
It's been at least...
dan friesen
This one is from Friday.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Crazy.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
I felt like somebody was saying that he was dead.
Recently.
jordan holmes
Is he not dead?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I kind of thought he was dead the first time we talked about him.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Our Dennis Montgomery investigation.
dan friesen
700 episodes ago.
jordan holmes
700 and some odd episodes ago.
dan friesen
Yeah, no, he's, I think he's still kicking.
Yeah, he's 69 years young.
jordan holmes
Ooh.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
Nice.
dan friesen
So, he got Mike Lindell.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Got him hard.
jordan holmes
Who do you think he's gonna get next?
We need to have a pool.
We need to have like a tontine version of...
dan friesen
I think it'll be someone we're not aware of yet.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Someone who will rise to prominence.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I don't know.
Once I hear Tucker say those two magic words, Dennis Montgomery, that'll be the day.
mike lindell
Or you can go to DennisMontgomery.com and see that, oh, Dennis is real.
He worked for the government.
He made this thing called Hammer Scorecard for the government to steal elections, amongst other things.
That's what our government was going to do, spy on other elections around the world.
But our government turned it on the United States, turned us on our own people, and now it's sitting.
The government doesn't want you to see this, everybody.
And that government is sitting down there.
If that judge releases this to the public...
If they release this to the public, it's over, everybody.
alex jones
All right, so Mike, they're definitely scared of you.
They're trying to shut you down.
They're trying to shut me down.
So the listeners, the viewers, Mike Lindell, Alex Jones, are all in a symbiotic defense pack here.
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mike lindell
We really appreciate it.
alex jones
But your new website as well.
dan friesen
It really feels like these two dudes are playing different games.
Mike Lindell doesn't realize that Montgomery's a long-term con man who's been part of at least a few of Alex's busted narratives in the past, and Alex knows not to take that shit seriously.
Because of that, or just because he's out of his mind, Lindell seems like he actually believes that if this information gets out...
It's gonna have a huge political effect.
Conversely, Alex just wants Mike's money, and he knows that the only way to get it is to allow him to say whatever he wants on air.
He isn't taking this Montgomery shit seriously, or else he would be insisting that this is the biggest story in the world, and he'd be covering it wall-to-wall.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Instead of being this blase nonsense that you hand-wave away to get to your promo code.
alex jones
Totally.
dan friesen
Promotion.
Like, Mike Lindell is that guy that you just gotta, like...
He has too much hubris or something, because anybody who was a right-wing propagandist worth a damn would just be like, shut up.
Shut up.
Don't say anything.
Just give me money.
Let me put your message out.
You're doing this poorly.
But he can't.
And if you want his money, you have to let him talk.
And when he talks, he reveals that he's working on information from Dennis Montgomery, and the whole thing's busted.
He needs an intermediary for his message, but he's not going to fund an intermediary.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
That's going to be a deal break.
jordan holmes
He wants ape shit crazy out there, and he is going to pay out the wazoo to get ape shit crazy out there.
dan friesen
Now, at the same time...
jordan holmes
And that's where you are.
dan friesen
I don't think that he recognizes it's ape shit crazy.
jordan holmes
He does not.
He does not.
I mean, I hate it whenever I hear him talk, because if he was yelling about the fucking...
Betting lines for football on Sundays on ESPN or something.
I think that could work.
His voice is right for it.
Like, I can't believe it's over three!
You know, like, get one of the field goals!
That works for me.
But this is sad.
This is a terrifying man.
Alex knows he's getting scammed.
unidentified
He's letting him say DennisMontgomery.com on air.
dan friesen
But that's why Alex is like, I better fucking get some pillow money.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no shit.
dan friesen
All right, well, hey, floodgates are open.
You're giving Montgomery money.
You're going to give me some, too, damn it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm going to have to go ahead and say that, ethically speaking, Alex is piggybacking on Dennis Montgomery's defrauding of Mike Lindell.
dan friesen
I don't know when the Montgomery information started to be part of Lindell's thing.
So, Alex might have been conning him before.
jordan holmes
Who knows?
Who knows when the first con began?
dan friesen
Yeah.
We were so young.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
So, Alex gets back to talking about the immigrants coming to Martha's Vineyard, and he's a liar.
alex jones
They're not bussing little kids that have been kidnapped like the Democrats are all over the country.
They're shipping men.
Men.
To all these different places.
That's smart of Osanis and of Abbott to not be involved in trafficking of children.
But if you're going to come here illegally, if DHS is going to let them go, we're going to put them on buses and say, hey, you're not going to Southside Chicago or South Dallas.
And I mean, talking super dangerous places like South Dallas and South Chicago.
You aren't going to the Bronx.
You're not going to Harlem.
You're not going to D.C. You are going to Martha's Vineyard, or you're going to Kamala Harris' house.
dan friesen
So based on Alex's language, it seems like he's totally fine with human trafficking as long as it's adult men.
Cool, man.
Good to know.
jordan holmes
And it's not.
dan friesen
Yeah, there were children sent to Martha's Vineyard.
According to reporting available at the time Alex is on air, the group included "seven families with four children ranging from three to eight years old." Alex is lying to his audience because he knows that the reality of what DeSantis did looks really, really bad and supporting it would be in direct contradiction with his imaginary principles.
So in order to, you know, you don't have to choose between being a coward or having to denounce DeSantis, instead you just create a false reality to respond to.
He's really No shit.
On every level, this is a fraud being perpetuated at the expense of vulnerable people in order to score political points.
And, I mean, they also endangered them, you know?
Like, it's outrageous.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I just...
And to say after, just like, well, at least they weren't trafficking children, you know, like the Democrats do.
And it's like, no, they were.
And then he said, which they were smart not to do.
And you're like, well...
They wouldn't be if they hadn't, but they did, first off.
dan friesen
Right, that's why I'm saying that how Alex is phrasing it, he is accepting that this is trafficking.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's fine.
dan friesen
And if they sent children, it would be human trafficking children.
jordan holmes
And they did.
dan friesen
And they did.
jordan holmes
So they are human traffickers, according to Alex.
But instead of that, he's just going to say that the Democrats are human traffickers, and they are smart for, and that...
dan friesen
Well, you deny that the thing happened, and then people who did it didn't do it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
You know?
dan friesen
It's great.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that really is going to drive me insane.
It really is going to drive me insane.
dan friesen
Well, let me soothe your brain with Alex talking about cars.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Yeah, 400 horsepower of a Mustang.
It's pretty good.
I used to have a Mustang like that at Greenland when I was a college.
Try a thousand Dodge Hemi horsepower with twin superchargers.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Zero to 60 in about a second and a half.
unidentified
Even beat one of them Teslas.
alex jones
Dangerous.
200 miles an hour in about eight seconds.
That's black sunshine.
You're not going to see a leftist press down the accelerator.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Shooting down that tollway at 1 a.m.
jordan holmes
Is that political?
alex jones
200 miles an hour.
Not that I've ever done it.
They just don't get it.
unidentified
Yes.
alex jones
We are in the arena.
unidentified
And we are alive.
alex jones
And being alive means you know you're gonna die.
dan friesen
Being alive means wasting a full minute talking about nothing.
jordan holmes
Like, you know Lewis Hamilton is the greatest Grand Prix driver in the history of the sport, right?
dan friesen
This means nothing to me.
Liberals don't drive fast.
jordan holmes
Lewis Hamilton, the best ever at driving the fastest.
dan friesen
No, no, no, no.
Leftists don't drive fast.
They don't understand what it means to be alive.
jordan holmes
Lewis Hamilton, the best at the fastest.
dan friesen
Right, and I think that, I mean, there's something that's being expressed by Alex here, and that is, it seems to be that leftists don't...
I guess.
Because they don't want to experience the danger of driving fast.
And the danger of driving fast is knowing that you could die, which is the only way to really be alive.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
This is silly.
jordan holmes
That is insane.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think Alex just wanted to talk about cars a little bit, and then he weaved it into politics so it didn't seem like he was just bragging about his car.
jordan holmes
You can't just, like...
Man, they just say they want to try and own just that anything that comes into their sphere.
dan friesen
Right.
Especially for Alex, it's anything that feels like vaguely masculine.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Which is like, man, driving fast is not masculine or feminine.
It's playing with a toy.
Everybody likes playing with toys.
It's playing with toys!
dan friesen
I don't particularly like driving much.
jordan holmes
No, but you like playing with your toys.
You've got toys.
Yeah, you've got buttons.
dan friesen
You've got video games.
jordan holmes
You could drive fast in a video game.
dan friesen
I could, and I have.
Although I don't like driving in video games either.
jordan holmes
You're not really a driver.
dan friesen
No, not really.
jordan holmes
You don't have a license.
dan friesen
No, that's true.
I haven't since I've lived in Chicago.
I was just such a bad driver.
I got bored really easily.
I don't think I have ADD, but when I was driving, it was so boring.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Every now and again, I would hit the curb.
It's not like highway hypnosis or anything.
jordan holmes
No, you're just like, what's the point of living anymore?
dan friesen
What's the point of living?
I may end up having to get a license again at some point.
jordan holmes
It'll be interesting.
You do want to live in the middle of nowhere, and without a car, that'd be tough.
That'd be tougher.
dan friesen
Not if I got a...
jordan holmes
Drone?
dan friesen
No, I was thinking more along the lines of, you know, in Assassin's Creed Valhalla, you can get that giant cat that you ride around?
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's true.
dan friesen
I'd get one of those.
jordan holmes
You could get one of those, that's true.
dan friesen
I don't think that needs a license.
jordan holmes
I have not accounted for writable felines in this scenario.
dan friesen
So, viewer discretion advised to this next clip.
Not because it's terrible or anything, it's just Alex is talking a little bit about sex.
jordan holmes
Oh, great.
dan friesen
And this is a family show.
jordan holmes
Gross.
alex jones
You know, I'm not into bondage, I'm not into pain.
And a few times...
jordan holmes
Thanks for telling us.
alex jones
...in high school and college, and I would get this incredible date, incredible woman, and they would want me to slap him around, and I'd say no, and they'd say, you're a wimp, screw you, get out of here.
It happened at least twice.
I'm like, I'm sorry.
I don't want to slap you around, I don't want to punch you in the face, I don't want to beat you with a bullwhip.
But that's a masochist.
Or a sadomasochist, I guess, wants to cause pain.
The point is, I'm not into pain, baby.
dan friesen
I think I just kept it in because I'm not into pain, baby.
jordan holmes
I'm not into pain, baby.
dan friesen
Good to know.
jordan holmes
Is that what we say for the COVID?
I think save that, that's our COVID conspiracy of the day.
I'm not into pain, baby.
dan friesen
Well, I think that Alex is also mixing up a fair amount of BDSM here in terms of, you know, obviously there are some people who like a little bit of rough.
Yeah.
Stuff, but it's not the entirety of bondage.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No, no, no.
I mean...
dan friesen
I don't think he has a full understanding of this, but...
And I'm not sure that I believe his childhood stories at all.
jordan holmes
No, no.
My biggest barrier is just I'm terrible with knots.
I'm terrible with knots.
I tried to watch a video one time.
I was asked about how to tie some good knots for the stuff.
You know the type.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Not good at it.
Real bad.
Got out.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's a real disappointing hostage situation, one which is a fantasy, and you still let the hostage get away.
dan friesen
Well, one time, I had a young lady who wanted me to bring some knots into the bedroom, and I brought Dawn knots.
Big mistake.
unidentified
She left me for Dawn knots.
For those of you who aren't here, George is taking off his headphones slowly.
jordan holmes
I do appreciate that 700 episodes, it took 700 episodes for me to really want to quit.
unidentified
Now you know how I feel half of the time.
dan friesen
But for slightly different reasons.
jordan holmes
Yes, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex has a story, and we heard this tale of a football player who had a lot of blood clots on our last episode.
unidentified
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
And now Alex has a story about someone having a heart attack.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
We have tens of thousands of percent increase in young people having heart attacks.
Never used to happen.
It's everywhere.
Because it fries your heart.
The next time you speed that sucker up, it's bye-bye.
So this is the tree of death is what we're talking about here.
So here's a clip.
Bartlett Teen.
Suffer's heart attack after finishing cross-country race.
W-R-E-G.
Here it is.
unidentified
A 17-year-old Bartlett High School cross-country runner is recovering in Florida after undergoing emergency heart surgery.
Gabe Higginbodem had just completed a race Saturday in Pensacola when he started complaining of chest pains.
As WREG's Melissa Moon reports, he underwent a three-hour surgery and now teammates, coaches, and the community are praying for his swift return to health.
dan friesen
I consulted tons of news stories about this case and none of them say he'd gotten vaccinated.
That's just an assumption that Alex is making, which you may notice is a trend.
He's reporting and hyping up instances of young people having medical conditions but never actually does the work to connect them to the vaccine at all.
That connection is already made in the minds of his listeners, so it's kind of a waste of time to worry about actually demonstrating it.
It seems like this never happens or can't happen, but high school athletes can have heart attacks.
Just do a little digging into the subject and you can find instances pre-COVID really easily.
In fact, in 2011, Denver Public Schools began installing portable defibrillators at schools because, quote, sudden cardiac arrest kills an estimated 300,000 Americans every year, including about 7,000 children.
Alex is exploiting his audience's understandable feeling that young people shouldn't have heart attacks and then weaponizing that for his anti-vax agenda.
It's disgusting, and ultimately he's using the deaths and medical emergencies of these young people as props for him to use to accumulate power and profit, sort of like how Ron DeSantis is using these...
jordan holmes
Oh, wait.
You're connecting these two things.
dan friesen
Well, there's thematic similarities.
jordan holmes
Ah, yeah, I can see that.
dan friesen
But yeah, Alex just assumes.
He never does any of the work that you need to do to actually report a story.
He's just guessing shit.
alex jones
But notice the adults all have Stockholm Syndrome.
We're just looking for something weird.
We don't know what caused this.
Well, we know what caused it.
You can bet your bottom dollar he took the Pfizer, Moderna, J&J shot.
unidentified
And so, if he got stung by a particular bee...
alex jones
Or a particular bug, and then you got sick, you'd know the bug did it.
I don't need to be an ornithologist to know what a bird is.
I don't need to be an expert in insects.
jordan holmes
I think you do.
alex jones
I don't need to know why the black widow bites me.
I can have a big rothole in my body that could kill me.
A rattlesnake bites me.
I know my leg's swollen because the rattlesnake bite.
It's the shots.
dan friesen
So this thinking is just stupid.
And assuming that you know and can just guess causal relations between things without knowing more about the variables, that's painfully dumb.
Like, for instance, what if you get bit by two things, which cause the reaction you're seeing?
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
Oh, no, what if there's multi-variables?
jordan holmes
You're complicating this.
dan friesen
Also, you can clearly see here that Alex is just guessing that the runner, in this case, got the vaccine.
Even if he had, Alex can't prove or demonstrate any causal link, but Alex can't even prove that the thing he's claiming caused this effect even happened.
He's seeing an effect that he knows he can exploit, so he's decided what the cause is based on no information.
This isn't a story that's going to be followed up on, so if you're in the audience, you'll just experience this story as a dopamine rush of Alex proving your anti-vax ideas correct, then you'll move on, never even worrying about whether or not you were just the target of a parlor trick.
But he's just questioning things, really.
I mean, when you think about it, Alex, all he does is question things, not make things up.
jordan holmes
He really is a cult leader in this respect, because you could absolutely see him, like, with his loyal info warriors walking down a street and pass by a guy with a broken arm, and Alex would be like, ha-ha!
It was a snake bite!
And then they'd just keep walking, and they'd be like, yeah, that was a snake bite, clearly.
Yeah, it was a snake bite.
Like, there's nothing.
It doesn't matter if it...
Even makes sense.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because that's what his description is like.
Oh, well, if you get bit by a rattlesnake and your leg does a thing, then you know that it's a rattlesnake.
Well, then you have to say that he got the vaccine and then the thing happened.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
This is like saying his legs swallow up.
Clearly it was a rattlesnake.
Like, no, that doesn't make any sense.
dan friesen
You haven't even proven that there is a rattlesnake.
jordan holmes
We're not in that state, man.
dan friesen
We don't have a rattlesnake.
To connect to this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's no smoking rattlesnake in this situation.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
So the third hour is him interviewing that Paul Alexander guy, and I don't really give a fuck.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
So we're going to jump to the 16th, Friday's show.
unidentified
Woof.
jordan holmes
Woof?
dan friesen
No Man's Land.
jordan holmes
No Man's Land.
dan friesen
Nothing happening.
alex jones
Uh-oh.
Let's put the live show headline on screen, please.
This is an emergency broadcast.
jordan holmes
Nothing happening.
alex jones
No man's land.
The emergency is deepening and is accelerating, and there's not much time to even mitigate how bad this crash is going to get.
So if you go to Infowars.com, you'll see the live show headline, and it says Emergency Friday Broadcast, and it deals with FedEx.
And FedEx is seen as an absolutely key indicator of what's happening not just here but in the world economy.
Now FedEx is telling the world what I've told you in the last month because I know people in industry, not just conservatives, not just nationalists, but I know people in a lot of areas of infrastructure.
unidentified
and and And basically, the economy is flatlining.
alex jones
And this has all been done by design.
unidentified
As usual.
alex jones
Here are some of the headlines.
Massive FedEx shares plunge.
The Dow Jones and every other embassy is way down right now.
FedEx shares plunge by 70% after a company says it's going to get worse.
We're going into a worldwide recession, FedEx CEO warns, numbers don't pretend very well.
dan friesen
So there are some serious concerns with FedEx announcing that they're seeing a decrease in shipping, both domestically and internationally.
This could be a negative indicator for the economy in the future, but there's also a ton of other variables that play into this.
One that's pointed to pretty frequently is that the Asian economy is weakening, and that impact is shown in reduced freight.
Another variable is that people are starting to shop in person more now that most people are acting like COVID is over.
That has the effect of reducing shipping to previously normal rates which are lower than they have been over the course of the pandemic.
Thirdly, Amazon has made moves into the logistics and transportation space in the past few years, and that has had the effect of reducing FedEx's overall market share.
All that being said, FedEx was down about 22%, which definitely isn't a good sign.
However, if you look back at their stock price over time, they're trading at about $161 a share as I was preparing this episode.
In March 2020, they were at $106.63 a share before making a huge jump as the pandemic led to more people ordering things for more deliveries.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And there were people ordering things that maybe needed to be delivered immediately.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
More tight time frames, which does have an effect.
As that demand goes down, you still need to offer that delivery in that window that you're offering.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Which leads to, like, instead of a plane being 100% full, you have to send it with, like, half full.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Or whatever.
That has a big impact.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
This may be a bad indicator of things to come, but it may not be a cause for an emergency episode and the theatrics that Alex is putting into this.
That said, he does this all the time about everything, and it's always the summer of rage coming, and I'm not surprised at all.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Blah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, there may be economic issues.
Like, you know, there may be some difficulties.
FedEx might be in some trouble.
But whatever it is has nothing to do with it.
There's no connection to anything Alex is saying.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, we live in America.
And if you look at us historically, the fact that we don't regulate the finance industry whatsoever has essentially led to a series of crashes that happen every decade to two decades.
Happens every fucking time.
Oh, boy.
Yeah.
Great.
dan friesen
Profit.
So, white supremacy?
I don't know if you've heard of it.
jordan holmes
Vaguely.
dan friesen
Not really real.
alex jones
Meanwhile, FBI agent, we have more people assigned to investigate white supremacists than there are actual white supremacists in the United States.
It's almost non-existent.
That's all coming up.
I mean, this is so huge because they're doing all this ahead of whatever it is they're about to stage.
Try to outlaw their political opposition.
That's part of what we're hitting next hour.
And listen, I'm just going to say this now.
It's a real opportunity for everybody on so many fronts.
Supporting this broadcast is an incredible opportunity because you look at the incredible work we've done together.
It's changed the world.
And when you fund this place, you're just as important as I am.
Plus, you get incredible products.
So I'm not going to belabor this.
I'm not going to bitch and complain.
A lot of our products have finally come back into stock.
We put everything we had into buying these products to get them in.
And then FedEx comes out and tells you what I told you a month ago, the real economy's flatlining.
So I know people run out of money.
I know the economy's dead.
I know their great reset and their lockdowns was designed to trigger this.
But you must absolutely look in your life and decide what is most critical.
dan friesen
What a generous person Alex is.
He's giving the audience an opportunity to give him money.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's the kind of selfless character you rarely see these days.
Just going out of his way and being like, hey, I know you're hurting, but it's important to still give me money.
jordan holmes
I need money.
dan friesen
What an opportunity for you.
jordan holmes
I just don't.
Man, if you really believe that people are struggling and you ask them for money after you agree with that...
That's crazy to me.
That's bananas down to me, to look at somebody who is struggling more than me and then be like, but you should give me money.
That's crazy.
dan friesen
Because whatever I'm doing, my project is more important than your well-being.
jordan holmes
No, I would give you money.
That's just, I don't understand how you're struggling and I'm not, so then I help you not struggle!
It's not complicated!
dan friesen
That's because he's a good guy, you just don't understand.
jordan holmes
Damn it!
dan friesen
So, Alex plays a long bit of Josh Hawley interviewing someone from Facebook.
jordan holmes
Just someone from Facebook.
Oh, from the company Facebook?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay, okay.
Not just like somebody from...
Okay, gotcha.
dan friesen
And, look, it's long and...
Boring?
And I think this sort of highlights how boring it is because Alex has to start yelling.
unidentified
We do know that people expected and hoped from the platforms that we would help them get accurate information about COVID during the unprecedented time, especially at the beginning.
josh hawley
Well, isn't there a difference between you as a platform putting forward information and censoring your users at the behest of the White House, the administration more broadly, and the CDC?
unidentified
Isn't there a distinction there?
We specifically wanted to work with public health experts to understand the relationship between information and behavior.
And so we did consult with the CDC, the World Health Organization, and others.
alex jones
No, you were directed by them.
You were directed by them.
unidentified
In collusion, criminal.
alex jones
Dirtbag.
Enemy.
josh hawley
Well, you didn't just consult with them to understand how they affected public health.
mike lindell
You actually censored on their behalf.
alex jones
You took orders.
dan friesen
Yeah, he can't, it's, whatever.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But that's just to indicate there's a long stretch of that being the coverage, and Alex himself can't even keep it together to just watch it.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
He's not cut out for, I would say, analysis of dense or more boring.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
He likes publicity stunts.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
You know, that's kind of his bread and butter.
Yeah, yeah.
Memes.
jordan holmes
I think it would be fun if you had, if I was running InfoWars, I would have a little meter.
That is like Alex's tolerance meter, and it would have a little graphic where his head would start to pop.
Because that's what it feels like when he's watching that, that there's just the meter going up.
dan friesen
That would be a fucking chaotic meter, though.
jordan holmes
It would be a nutso meter.
It would be harder than the applause meter, that's for sure.
dan friesen
You add influences, and you don't know what they're going to do.
Like, you put Brian Stelter's face on screen, it just automatically blows up.
But then, for some reason, you bring a llama in studio, and everything's fine.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It's just fine.
He's not mad about it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I would be more frustrated with the llama in studio.
But what are you going to do?
dan friesen
Well, so would I, because it's my apartment.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is an issue for you.
dan friesen
Although I do like llamas, but not in my apartment.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
We have some big news.
What's that?
Something that's not true.
unidentified
Ooh.
alex jones
Five weeks ago, they swore in Klaus Schwab as the head of the UN and said he has full command.
I'm sorry, what?
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
Klaus Schwab was sworn in as the head of the UN.
jordan holmes
When did they do that?
dan friesen
They didn't.
jordan holmes
Don't they have to have like a whole thing?
dan friesen
Alex is just questioning things.
Don't you understand?
unidentified
Did he get sworn in secret?
jordan holmes
Why would you have any swearing in ceremony if you can do it in secret?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Didn't happen.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's an issue.
dan friesen
I honestly was looking around, and I can't even figure out what he might be referring to and misreporting.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
But yeah, Klaus Schwab isn't the head of the U.S. Why would they?
jordan holmes
What?
Where?
Where, when, and why?
dan friesen
He doesn't explain.
jordan holmes
How?
dan friesen
He doesn't explain.
unidentified
How?
dan friesen
It's just bullshit.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So look, Alex likes to talk about memes and stuff, and he saw a video on social media that he's got a report on.
alex jones
Now, I want to play an imam here, because I'm not against Muslims in general.
jordan holmes
That's not true.
alex jones
Where he talks about TikTok.
And this is true.
How TikTok, owned and run by the Communist Chinese, puts out destroying messages to kill the family and to kill our minds and our future.
But then the very same algorithm in China puts out a different message of stoic strength and will and mathematics and military and physical combat.
So while they're building men and women and families, they're sabotaging us with Hollywood and big tech and all of this.
And the messages are all there to make you give up and roll over and die.
dan friesen
I have no idea who the person is, And larger point, neither does Alex.
He just saw a random video on social media that made a point that he liked about TikTok, so he's reporting on it.
That's his process.
That's what he's doing.
Even leaving the anonymity of the speaker aside, who cares about this claim?
It's not backed up by any data that this guy is presenting.
It's just a thing that someone's saying, someone who he has no idea who they are or the larger context of their comments.
Essentially, what I'm saying I don't really care about this video.
Alex has no idea who this person is.
There's nothing backing up what they're saying.
And he loves it.
jordan holmes
Alex's broadcast has become an audio version of your...
Uncle's Facebook page in 2015.
Like, it is just a series of, like...
dan friesen
A little more hateful.
Maybe that's your uncle.
jordan holmes
Depends on who's uncle.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
We gotta be talking uncles.
But yeah, I mean, it is just, like, a bunch of...
I saw this and now I'm mad!
And then you just move on.
And then you, like, have a flame war in the comments for a while.
And then the next day you're like, I saw that!
It's fucking awful.
dan friesen
Right.
And, like, there is just, like, the...
The way that social media makes things like, ah, what's the next post?
Alex has the same, like, ah, the next show.
It's almost like a new cycle.
Everything is refreshed.
All those things that I said yesterday don't matter.
jordan holmes
And when I got, this is the amount of likes that I got.
This is about what I'm going to get from here, so I've got to move on.
Yeah, it's a whole mess.
dan friesen
So, still talking a little bit about Martha's Vineyard here.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Alex is full of shit.
jordan holmes
Crime.
dan friesen
What are the most difficult challenges right now?
unidentified
The difficult challenges are...
alex jones
Hit pause again.
I want to start this over, sorry.
Again, this is one of the leaders in Martha's Vineyard.
The leader is saying, we don't have places for him, we don't have jobs for him, don't bring him here.
But you're telling him, come here, and they voted 85% in Martha's Vineyard for Joe Biden.
So if you don't want to pour gasoline on yourself and light it on fire, lady, don't do it.
But there's nothing like a leftist...
To be disconnected from reality.
Sorry, start it over.
unidentified
What are the most difficult challenges right now?
The difficult challenges are at some point in time they have to move from here to somewhere else.
We don't have the services to take care of 50 immigrants.
We certainly don't have housing.
We're in a housing crisis as we are on this island.
We can't house everyone here that lives here and works here.
We don't have housing for 50 more people.
dan friesen
So Alex is presenting this as one of the leaders from Martha's Vineyard because he has no idea who this person is, and he is not entirely sure if Martha's Vineyard is a city or what he should call their leaders.
In reality, this is Lisa Belcastro, the coordinator of the homeless shelter in Martha's Vineyard, and when she says that eventually people need to leave, she's talking about how the shelter she works with isn't designed for providing long-term help.
When you understand that what she's talking about is the services her shelter can provide, not like the city.
She's not speaking for the city or for Martha's Vineyard as a whole.
He's deceiving with the context.
So the larger context of that clip that Alex isn't playing is about how the community has come together to help these migrants.
And then Lisa goes off on DeSantis about how this is a disgraceful political stunt that's essentially an attack on the personhood of these migrants themselves.
Conveniently cuts that off just before.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
A little bit before that.
jordan holmes
There's no other way to describe it than to say that he has taken these people and reduced them to things.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's what Alex looked at them, too.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So here's a clip of DeSantis, just as a, like, sort of reverse of this.
unidentified
And all those people in D.C. and New York were beating their chest when Trump was president, saying they were so proud to be sanctuary jurisdictions, saying how bad it was to have a secure border.
The minute even a small fraction of what those border towns deal with every day is brought to their front door, they all of a sudden...
Go berserk.
And they're so upset that this is happening.
And it just shows you, you know, their virtue signaling is a fraud.
Okay?
They...
dan friesen
So we can't survive as a country if this is what elected leaders do.
The fabric of the country just won't hold together if we have trolls using humans for publicity stunts in a weird attempt to trigger the libs so you reveal their virtue signaling.
jordan holmes
Insane!
dan friesen
Even if everything DeSantis was saying was true, this is how a distasteful prank show operates, not a governor.
Beyond that, what he's saying is bullshit.
People aren't upset about migrants and refugees going to different cities.
They were super offended by the way DeSantis is doing this as a political stunt, using the safety of migrants as a prop.
He's endangering humans, including children, for his own purposes, largely to increase the chances that he's able to increase his political power in the He knows well enough that he can't acknowledge that this is what he's getting pushback for because it's a very sensible pushback.
He can't just write off his triggered virtue signal responses, so he pretends that's what people are upset about.
It just pleases the...
The aggressive audience.
jordan holmes
I mean, I can't hear him talk like that without getting an immediate urge to like...
Bum rush the stage and just start slapping in the face.
You can't believe this!
And just slap it.
Wake up!
Something is...
Just wake up!
That's not possible for a human being to think is true in any meaningful form.
dan friesen
You're a person who has the responsibility for representing a fucking state.
You're the governor of a state.
This is beneath your station.
This is beneath your office.
And I think a lot of things that maybe elected officials do are maybe beneath the office.
But particularly, this is up there.
And I think that acting this way to...
And then the response being like, oh, look at this virtue signaling.
It reveals...
That to me is like, this is social media trolling.
This isn't...
jordan holmes
Just do what other Florida governors do and get rich off of your shit and then leave.
That's what the governor of Florida does.
Yeah, just be a corrupt piece of shit like Florida likes.
That's what they want.
God damn it!
dan friesen
So, the third hour of Alex's show on Friday, he has a couple of doctors on who are suing about remdesivir, but they're clearly on a fishing expedition.
They're making outrageous claims about hospitals murdering for profit, but they have no evidence of anything.
jordan holmes
That's gonna be tough.
dan friesen
And then they keep saying, we hope we'll find things in Discovery.
Like, it's zero in terms of, like, an interview.
It is a nothing.
But very exciting for Alex.
jordan holmes
We hope we'll find things in Discovery.
dan friesen
Yeah, we'll go from there.
jordan holmes
Aha, see.
Now this is how the legal system works.
I say I sue you, and then you have to give me all of the information that I need to sue you.
dan friesen
I make bold claims that are baseless, and then...
jordan holmes
And the law makes it so they're true.
dan friesen
So we have one last clip, and it's about the lineage of these sorts of publicity stunts.
Nazis?
Well, Alex actually has a pretty good point.
alex jones
So if it's good enough for the Democrat strongholds to have giant tent cities, how about they start to happen at their houses?
There's one from a spickle of me.
He says, sorry, illegal migrants.
Southern border states are full, but I hear Martha's Vineyard is accepting reservations.
dan friesen
A meme.
alex jones
It's actually Laura Loomer's idea three years ago.
She took a bunch of illegal aliens she picked up on the Texas border, excuse me, California border, To Nancy Pelosi's house.
And she got arrested for it.
Let's get Laura Loomer on Sunday.
dan friesen
Oh, very exciting about this booking.
Can't wait for her to say that she won the election secretly.
So Alex is lying about what Laura Loomer did.
She picked up men she assumed are undocumented immigrants from a Home Depot parking lot and convinced them to accompany her to set up a tent in Pelosi's backyard.
But it's pretty unlikely that they told...
That she told them that they'd be trespassing on Pelosi's property to do so, and that she almost certainly didn't tell them it was part of a publicity stunt aimed at boosting her profile with the ultimate goal of being to accumulate political power that she could wield against immigrants.
jordan holmes
It would be a very difficult thing to explain in the Home Depot parking lot and do so successfully.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
unidentified
It was pretty clear that the real aim of the stunt was to do this illegal thing, trespassing, in order to create a confrontation between the police and the immigrants.
dan friesen
This would allow Loomer to do exactly what DeSantis is doing now with the, oh, you want immigrants Unfortunately, Pelosi didn't press charges against anyone, so the immigrants just left.
And according to Will Sommer at the Daily Beast, quote, Loomer didn't get arrested for this stunt, but again, you can see this need to use fraud to try and set people up, and an eagerness to use people as pawns in politically cruel stunts.
That's Alex's ideology, and this shit is totally fine to him, because they aren't people to him.
These people are things.
Yeah, you have to use fraud.
jordan holmes
You have to use fraud, because you are...
Complaining about people that don't exist.
So then you have to, because they're not going to do what it is you're complaining about, then you have to try and create a contraption of sorts to get them into a situation where maybe what they do could be construed from a distance as what you have been complaining about this whole time.
dan friesen
Don't besmirch contraptions.
jordan holmes
I'm not besmirching contraptions.
I'm just saying that I'm trying to use the more technical term.
It's like a chain reaction.
It's like tissue paper, you know?
I'm using...
dan friesen
Yeah, it's...
I mean, I think there is like a...
You know, it's weird when Alex is able to make connections.
You know, like...
Laura Loomer's stunt is similar to this.
jordan holmes
It is.
dan friesen
In many ways.
Yeah.
And if he would sit and think about that for a little while...
Maybe he'd...
No, he wouldn't.
He wouldn't learn anything.
jordan holmes
If I was DeSantis, I would sit and think about that a while and go, am I really going to do Loomer shit?
dan friesen
Ooh, yeah.
jordan holmes
That's what I would do.
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm a Loomer hack.
jordan holmes
And that's not because...
I mean, in my inhabiting of this character, it's not morally that Loomer's doing immoral things.
It's that she's shit at the job.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's just...
Garbage performance art.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
It's shit.
Get better.
Do something better.
Steal from somebody better.
You know?
Like Marcel Duchamp put an upside down urinal in Martha's Vineyard.
How about that?
Blow everybody's mind.
dan friesen
It would be interesting.
jordan holmes
It would be.
dan friesen
But you know what?
The liberals would like that.
jordan holmes
They would like that.
dan friesen
We'd be confused by it or challenged.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it would get its own Facebook page in like an instant.
Everybody would be wearing shirts.
It'd be gritty and then the upside down urinal of Martha's Vineyard.
That's the way it would go.
dan friesen
So, I mean, look, there's not much going on here.
As Alex's trial progresses, we left off on Friday at the end of Paz's testimony.
Right.
Norm was trying desperately to bring Trump into the proceedings and got slapped down with that a number of times.
jordan holmes
Hilariously.
dan friesen
And, yeah, I don't know.
I don't think that...
I don't know.
Are there any big points that you would want to bring up that you've seen over the course of the week?
jordan holmes
I mean...
I suppose the big point for me has just been so much is clear, especially with the elongated trial now, is so much of it is so obvious that the judge and Norman and Matty and all of those people have the rules set up.
And the rules are Norm cannot do everything that Norm is doing.
But because it's a trial and we can't just sit there and have the judge say, Norm, sit back down.
You are not allowed to talk.
dan friesen
Although she has said that a couple of times.
jordan holmes
She has said that a couple of times.
dan friesen
I will make you sit down if you don't stop.
jordan holmes
Yes, absolutely.
She's had to say that and she's going to keep saying that because that's their entire...
That's all they've got is the stuff they can't say.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
They don't have a new argument, so they're just going to try and do different ways to like...
Backdoor the same shit they're not allowed to say in.
And we're going to watch it for more weeks.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we'll give you an update on that as it goes along.
jordan holmes
As the rules are broken more.
dan friesen
And it appears that Alex is going to be there probably testifying next week or this week as things are going.
jordan holmes
Yep, that'll...
dan friesen
We'll see.
jordan holmes
That'll be interesting.
dan friesen
Sure will.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But yeah, we'll be back for another episode in the near future.
unidentified
Indeed we will.
dan friesen
But until then, Jordan, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep.
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
We'll be back.
dan friesen
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Wilford Snibblesnabble of the Gribble Pibble.
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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