Today, Dan and Jordan take a trip to the past. In this installment, Alex tells some very clearly made-up stories from his youth, and Dan breaks down the way Alex misreports stories so they will fit his predetermined narrative. Citations Dreamy Creamy Fundraiser
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| Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | ||
| Knowledge Fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| I need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your word. | ||
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KnowledgeFight. | |
| KnowledgeFight.com. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to KnowledgeFight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Quick question for you, buddy. | ||
| What's your bright spot? | ||
| Ooh, that was... | ||
| That wasn't our best execution, no. | ||
| The rhythm was terrible. | ||
| No, that was off. | ||
| Were you still trying to come up with memories of Hey Dude? | ||
| No, honestly, I was thinking about ways to keep water from getting into your windows. | ||
| I had an idea. | ||
| We're recording this in the afternoon in Chicago after a massive rainstorm. | ||
| A lot of flash flooding and what have you. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And right when you showed up to record, I discovered that there was a... | ||
| A grotto forming in the middle of my living room. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I had a hot tub now, and there were globalists in it, and I didn't know what to do. | ||
| There were things laying eggs, there was a biodiverse ecosystem being built around this oasis in your home. | ||
| Yeah, I had no idea that somehow there was a leak or something, and it was just a nightmare. | ||
| So hopefully that's the only one in the house. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| Great. | ||
| So that's fun. | ||
| That's not my bright spot. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| That's not your bright spot. | ||
| What is your bright spot today, buddy? | ||
| My bright spot is it is officially today the end of the dreamy, creamy summer. | ||
| That's true! | ||
| And I will be crossing the 100 ice creams later this evening. | ||
| I've not had it yet, but I started the day off with a frosty Chino from Wendy's. | ||
| What? | ||
| It's a... | ||
| It's a frosty and a cappuccino? | ||
| Well, no. | ||
| Yeah, it's like a coffee, but then the cream is frosty. | ||
| They're frosty ice cream. | ||
| That was an idea that took five minutes. | ||
| Yep, and thank God. | ||
| No need to rework that thing at all. | ||
| Fantastic. | ||
| Nine out of ten. | ||
| I love that. | ||
| Yeah, it's good. | ||
| That was some enterprising employee 20 years ago who was just like, hey, buddy, I got an idea. | ||
| I'm just going to put some frosty in your drink. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm going to end things with one of the suggestions that you actually had that I have not taken you up on yet, and that is the insomnia cookie, I believe. | ||
| Cloud cookie. | ||
| Cloud cookie. | ||
| The ice cream sandwich. | ||
| The ice cream sandwich. | ||
| That you said was too much. | ||
| It's going to blow your head off. | ||
| Yeah, so I'm going to finish things off this evening with that. | ||
| Excellent. | ||
| Cap off the dreamy, creamy summer. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| Man, a lot of ice creams. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 100 is a lot. | ||
| I like that you got 99 on the morning of. | ||
| That's a good... | ||
| I might have had a number of things that I had already had. | ||
| You know, padding the stats a little bit. | ||
| Listen, listen. | ||
| What's the difference between a rebound with five seconds left to go in the game and a rebound with 20 minutes left to go? | ||
| It all goes on the board. | ||
| It's all going on there, man. | ||
| It's all in the stat sheet. | ||
| And I think there's some lessons that I've learned that I'd like to impart on the audience. | ||
| Classics are classics for a reason. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| There's some things that you think, like your basic ass 7-Eleven or grocery store ice cream sandwich. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Comes in the white wrapper. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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Good. | |
| Never, never, since you were three years old, you've eaten one. | ||
| You don't know who makes those. | ||
| There's something to it, and don't scoff. | ||
| No. | ||
| There's a reason that those are still in business. | ||
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Yep. | |
| That's because they're fantastic. | ||
| Second thing, um, don't get too weird. | ||
| Um, like, okay, so, Frosties, on the subject of Frosties. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| When I was growing up, there was a chocolate Frosty, and that was it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now there's a vanilla Frosty, there's a strawberry Frosty. | ||
| It took them a lot longer to get to vanilla than it really should have. | ||
| True. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They're not worth it. | ||
| A chocolate Frosty is great. | ||
| It's as it's supposed to be. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| At McDonald's, they have a McFlurry. | ||
| M&M and Oreo. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They've tried to branch out and every time it has been a whiff. | ||
| Don't do it, McDonald's. | ||
| Yeah, it hasn't gone well. | ||
| Stick to the safe ocean. | ||
| They can put Oreos and they can put Reese's in there. | ||
| But they don't put Reese's, they put like the Reese's pieces and those are just, you can't put those in ice cream. | ||
| I think that McDonald's doesn't have a deal with Reese's. | ||
| I think that could be an issue. | ||
| I think Reese's hates Ray Kroc. | ||
| Or something. | ||
| They won't give him rights. | ||
| Man, Reese and McDonald had a fight. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I also think that things like a Dairy Queen, like a Blizzard and stuff, it's fine. | ||
| Peanut Buster Parfait, I think was... | ||
| I didn't have one of those. | ||
| I haven't had one in years, but I remember the ice cream, the peanuts, the fudge, and then the ice cream, the peanuts, the fudge! | ||
| The triple layer or whatever, amazing. | ||
| It might be great for a child. | ||
| I worked at Dairy Queen when I was younger, and I have terrible memories of making dilly bars and what have you, and I don't want to open that can of worms back up. | ||
| That makes sense, yeah. | ||
| But yeah, they're good, they're fine, but you know... | ||
| Whatever. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Other things, custard, superior to frozen yogurt. | ||
| Yeah, true. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Some of these... | ||
| Those fucking overpriced-ass ice cream pints are so overrated. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| They have no business charging as much as they do. | ||
| Those parfait ones, those are a scam. | ||
| There's like this much ice cream in them, and then, no, that's bullshit. | ||
| And, oh, are you talking about those ones that are like the sundae cup things? | ||
| Yes, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And they are disgusting. | ||
| There's too much shit in them. | ||
| Universal gross, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's another thing. | ||
| A big loser of the bracket, for sure, even though it wasn't a bracket. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The Bunny Tracks by Blue Bunny, they make a bar on a stick. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Never heard of it. | ||
| It's too much. | ||
| Too much. | ||
| Too much. | ||
| It's busy. | ||
| There's a stripe of fudge in it. | ||
| There's peanuts. | ||
| There's rabbit-shaped caramel-filled chocolate things in it. | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't know what I'm eating. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, we'll see how this ice cream sandwich closes things out, but I'm excited for it. | ||
| And, you know, buttons are going out periodically. | ||
| They're going out sporadically. | ||
| Even though the dreamy, creamy summer has ended, this will go on for the next couple months or so. | ||
| People will be getting buttons, because I woefully underestimated the... | ||
| Oh, hey, come on. | ||
| I underestimated the demand last time, and I thought, that'll be about the same. | ||
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No. | |
| No, no, no. | ||
| Thousands of buttons going out. | ||
| Big difference. | ||
| I have had to enlist the help of a business. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Quite frankly. | ||
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For the first time ever, we have enlisted a business. | |
| I physically can't make this many buttons. | ||
| So I've had to outsource it. | ||
| So there are some folks who have been curious about like, hey, I haven't gotten my button yet, but some people are posting pictures. | ||
| It's because they're going first come, first serve, basically in the email inbox. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And even though the Dreamy Creamy Summer's over, I'm going to keep these fundraisers on the GoFundMe open until we're done sending out the buttons. | ||
| So if people care to chip in and support these great causes, there's a link. | ||
| Please do. | ||
| And yeah, this is enough of My Bright Spot. | ||
| What's yours? | ||
| My Bright Spot today, Dan, is there's a new show called Bee and Puppycat. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| But it's made by some of the people who made Adventure Time. | ||
| So it's more like that surreal, uncanny point of view on a certain almost magical girl, you know, like Sailor Moon kind of thing. | ||
| But imagine more like it's a modern woman trying to deal with shit and then stuff goes crazy. | ||
| You know? | ||
| And that's kind of... | ||
| But then also, it's so very mundane at the same time. | ||
| That it balances things out with an almost non-existent chiptune soundtrack. | ||
| It's really, really interesting and good. | ||
| I don't know if I would recommend it to anybody. | ||
| The mundane, is it like bills? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Bills are piling up and then you have to have superpowers. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Take odd jobs. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah, 100%. | ||
| At the end of the day, if she achieves her goal, she gets like 50 bucks. | ||
| Like, with magical powers, all of this shit going on, one time she gets paid in change, you know? | ||
| Like, it is a tough life out there for an intergalactic superhero of sorts. | ||
| Is she a bee? | ||
| No, she is not a B. She's just a regular old gal. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I'll not check it out, but it does sound interesting, and I'm glad you're enjoying it. | ||
| Yeah, it's enjoyable. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over, and we're going back to the past, because I have been dealing with some stuff, and I want to have a little treat, and I always find going back to the past to be a treat. | ||
| Much better. | ||
| And, like, Alex is off on Monday. | ||
| Doing his, uh, Andrew Tate interview is gonna air. | ||
| Oh, yeah, that's right. | ||
| And, uh, you know, he's half out the door as is. | ||
| Talk to Bannon on Friday. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Um, and so, yeah, the past called me. | ||
| It beckoned. | ||
| And, uh, we'll talk about that. | ||
| But here, uh, before we get into any of this business, uh, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| Oh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, Jill L. Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| This person said that the name is supposed to be pronounced like it was in The Witcher, and I have not watched The Witcher, and I played The Witcher 3, but it was on mute, so I had subtitles. | ||
| I don't know how anybody pronounces anything, so as best I can tell, it's Brandy Lion. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| I want it to be Brendelian of some sort, you know? | ||
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Maybe that is. | |
| I don't really remember that. | ||
| Anyway, thank you very much. | ||
| You might be right. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Next, Jason, watch Neon Genesis Evangelion. | ||
| Love, Madison. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk! | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| You're smiling. | ||
| Yeah, that's Neon Genesis Evangelion. | ||
| Oh, sorry. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Do not apologize. | ||
| But it's an anime... | ||
| I guessed that. | ||
| I think I've heard someone mention it before. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| So it's an anime about forcing these children to pilot giant organic robots to defeat... | ||
| The existence of separation between consciousness. | ||
| So child soldiers with a real hard psych... | ||
| Oh, and they don't shy away from the child in Child Soldier. | ||
| They torture that kid. | ||
| I mean, boy, there's memes about just getting the robot. | ||
| If you hear somebody say, like, get in the robot towards that meme, it... | ||
| It buries decades of torture. | ||
| I liked easy, kind of, like, not that heavy kind of entertainment, and that's why I listen to Alex Jones all the time. | ||
| So I'm going to take a pass on this. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| The last four episodes are live-action, surreal-adventure nonsense. | ||
| Next, Daniel Jordan's Dreamy Creamy Space Hash. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
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Thank you! | |
| And Sophia in Scotland. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Also, it might be Sophia. | ||
| And we've got a technocrat up in the mix here, Jordan. | ||
| So, my InfoWars-obsessed co-worker has started buying pills and shirts from Alex, so I'm becoming a technocrat to bring balance to the fight. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Four stars. | |
| Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant. | ||
| Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop. | ||
| Daddy Shark. | ||
| Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent. | ||
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He's a loser little titty baby. | |
| I don't want to hate black people. | ||
| I renounce Jesus Christ! | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| Now, Jordan. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| We left off on August 6th, 2003. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The last time we were in the past. | ||
| And so we picked up there and listened to the 7th and it's just, man, it is... | ||
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Desert. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That is to a T. He ends up having a little bit of a round table with a couple pastors who are complaining about how they're trying to run a scam where they give teachers credentials, but they aren't licensed to do it. | ||
| And they're like, why is everyone so mad at us? | ||
| Oh boy, I don't know. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So it's kind of a snooze, and I had to skip past it. | ||
| Round table with pastors is never fun. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So we get to Friday, August 8th, and there's actually something that I found really fascinating, and I think this is This is an incredibly helpful, teachable episode about Alex and how he operates. | ||
| And the story that he tells has to do with the Child Protective Services and his feelings around it. | ||
| Obviously, he thinks that they're just out to kidnap your children. | ||
| Yeah, we've interacted with the imaginary CPS in the past. | ||
| Yes, and so he starts off the episode talking about this. | ||
| There are over a million and a half, million and a half children. | ||
| Taken each year by federally funded child kidnapping services. | ||
| That can't be true. | ||
| And the argument is, well, you know, there are abusers out there. | ||
| Yeah, you have criminal laws for that. | ||
| You have police for that. | ||
| And in the past, it was the churches or private county organizations that handled it. | ||
| There were still a lot of problems with orphanages and abuse there as well. | ||
| Because statistically... | ||
| Governments and agencies and orphanages, public or private, abuse kids more than parents, statistically. | ||
| So it's kind of a catch-22. | ||
| You take kids from abusers and give them to people, statistically, that have an even bigger penchant for abuse where criminals of all types are attracted because they can then abuse people who are defenseless. | ||
| And that's just the, you know, go get a master's degree in criminology and you'll find out all about it, okay? | ||
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You go get a master's degree in criminology. | |
| It's the crime statistics, folks. | ||
| You don't get to tell me to do that. | ||
| So the argument's blown right there. | ||
| But I have to tell you, I mean, if you're the daughter or son of a crack dealer, you don't have a problem, folks. | ||
| They don't want you. | ||
| But if you're middle class, if you don't know your rights, they will get in a year $200,000 of federal funds. | ||
| If they can string your toddler out on Ritalin Prozac, oh yeah, this is admitted. | ||
| So this is something. | ||
| A lot of this is pretty standard stuff from Alex's point. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Something that needs to be brought up, too, is this notion that the... | ||
| Child Protective Services doesn't need to exist because there are criminal laws for this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is a little bit of a weird perspective to have. | ||
| No, the cops will come steal a kid, and then they'll raise them in the precinct, and that's where we get cops. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I think that sounds like a fun anime that you might watch. | ||
| I think it's silly to act like this because there are laws and there are people who need to be specialized in dealing with certain laws, particularly sensitive type situations like family dynamics and abuse. | ||
| And that's not something that you would want to entrust to your normal... | ||
| Beat cop or just someone who doesn't have some training in that field? | ||
| Of course! | ||
| So if you don't have CPS, then you just have to take a unit inside the police department and turn them into CPS! | ||
| Basically. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| No matter what you do for someone to accomplish the job you're looking for, someone has to be there. | ||
| Or you have to create a situation where we don't do anything proactive, we don't do anything that is trying to address situations, and instead what we do is when there's something, when we get a murmur of there's some abuse going on, we send in just... | ||
| You're a normal detective in there, and I guess they arrest the parents and the kids can fend for themselves. | ||
| I mean, it does feel like what they're doing is... | ||
| Okay, so your parents are going to go to jail. | ||
| You're going to be fine in this house by yourself? | ||
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You're good. | |
| Cool. | ||
| We'll see you later. | ||
| We'll check in on you once a week or so. | ||
| We'll bring you some food. | ||
| I don't know what the alternative for what Alex said. | ||
| I guess it's just that the churches will take care of everything. | ||
| It's kind of the same thing he has about people not having insurance. | ||
| He's like, yeah, doctors at churches will take care of you. | ||
| Charities will do it. | ||
| Community aid. | ||
| That's great! | ||
| Some of that stuff, it would be great if there was more of it, but relying on it institutionally and structurally seems like it's just a way to not... | ||
| You know, we created a government because we wanted community aid on a bigger level. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's why we all pay the government to then provide community aid. | ||
| Yeah, it's something like that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex has a story about the CPS taking a child, and I do not believe that this is true. | ||
| I've been to the hospitals, okay, where the mothers had a newborn baby. | ||
| No criminal record. | ||
| Got some welfare. | ||
| Was recommended with her first baby. | ||
| Oh, come to the city hospital. | ||
| It'll be paid for. | ||
| Oh, I'll get some help. | ||
| Come in. | ||
| Sign here. | ||
| Take the kid. | ||
| You're at risk because you're both working blue-collar jobs, but you've got a house. | ||
| Take the first kid. | ||
| At birth. | ||
| Then I'm there to watch this woman. | ||
| We go there, and there's police stalking around. | ||
| You name it. | ||
| They're trying to make her sign documents. | ||
| They're threatening her. | ||
| Mike's got a hidden camera getting footage of this. | ||
| They're telling her, you better do it right now. | ||
| And the cops ain't done and going, showing his teeth. | ||
| What's your problem? | ||
| So then the cops are bad for this, right? | ||
| And then all of a sudden they grab us, threaten to arrest us, throw us out of the hospital. | ||
| And then eyewitnesses that were still there said they just grabbed her and squeezed her arm. | ||
| We talked to her, of course, on the TV show. | ||
| Squeezed her arm and said, sign it! | ||
| She did, and they go, that's better. | ||
| Grab the kid. | ||
| That's it, folks. | ||
| Yeah, I don't believe this story as it's told. | ||
| Although you do make a really good point, and I guess Alex's response to that would be, the cops are only doing this because the CPS makes them do it, or something like that. | ||
| I'm sure there's a workaround to this. | ||
| Yeah, but this is scary if you're listening. | ||
| This is something to be scared of. | ||
| Yeah, I suppose the cops coming in and stealing your baby in broad daylight with all of these people around witnessing it, and only one of whom is apparently retelling the story. | ||
| All of those people in the hospital, all of the doctors, nurses, all of the rest of the people, never told this story once, but he's somehow been there. | ||
| And Mike Hansen, his cameraman, has secretly recorded footage of this that is conspicuous in its absence. | ||
| It is. | ||
| I have not seen this, and I've watched a lot of his content, even from back in these times. | ||
| His documentaries and what have you. | ||
| I think this would be pretty shocking stuff. | ||
| Boy, if I was telling this story, I'd be like, you know what? | ||
| Let's play that footage right now. | ||
| It'd be good. | ||
| It'd be helpful. | ||
| Yeah, it'd be contextual. | ||
| But I think that it's more just a misrepresentation of something that he wants to present as this, they're going to steal your kids. | ||
| But they are going to steal a particular kind of kid. | ||
| Oh yeah, I bet there's no... | ||
| As you heard, if you're a crack dealer, they don't want your kid. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| But Alex has to make things a little bit more explicit. | ||
| I was going to say. | ||
| And then it got even sicker. | ||
| We then got the actual brief where they had had her flagged on the computer for the next time she went to a hospital. | ||
| Basically, they were just picking the apple tree, kidnapping her second kid. | ||
| They knew she was an easy pushover, her and her husband, poor white folks. | ||
| They go in, and these are prized babies, folks. | ||
| I mean, they admit it they're prized because they're white. | ||
| They get a lot of money on them in the adoption after a couple years of siphoning off money for raising them a bit. | ||
| This is all admitted. | ||
| It's all admitted. | ||
| They want these prized white babies. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| What's the going rate for a white baby these days? | ||
| I don't know, but I don't think this is a major concern for the Child Protective Services. | ||
| No, I don't. | ||
| Although for Alex it seems to be front and center. | ||
| And all of this is being brought up, and this is the theme and basically the entirety of this episode, because Alex has found a story in the Denver Post that is going to, this is just going to basically spiral from here. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I can't stand it anymore. | ||
| I'm pulling my hair out. | ||
| I'm watching criminals engage in kidnapping, and then nothing's done to them. | ||
| This is the Denver Post who's outraged. | ||
| Who's normally, you know, socialist and for all this, but it's even outraging Diane Carman. | ||
| Now this is the Denver Post on Infowars.com. | ||
| We're updating it right now. | ||
| Agency seizure of babies, still a sad mystery. | ||
| Victoria Goodluck sat in the sweltering living room of her Westminster home Monday afternoon, her breasts throbbing under the weight of so much milk. | ||
| Her baby girl, born early Friday morning, was in protective custody. | ||
| Protective custody. | ||
| Her five other children weren't. | ||
| The kids peeked out of the window and played quietly as Adams County social worker interviewed the parents and inspected the house and the family environment. | ||
| Now, they've already kidnapped the kid. | ||
| Wait till you get to this. | ||
| But now they're stomping around the house. | ||
| No warrant. | ||
| You get to the threatening people. | ||
| I mean, they don't even care. | ||
| So, it's wild to learn that in 2003, the Denver Post was a socialist publication, especially considering that it was operated by Media News Group Incorporated, the second largest newspaper conglomerate in the country. | ||
| Kind of seems like Alex might just throw that word socialist around randomly, like it doesn't mean anything. | ||
| It might mean just I disagree with them from time to time. | ||
| Or they don't explicitly endorse the severely right-wing politics that I love. | ||
| I haven't met him at a KKK meeting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I haven't seen him there. | ||
| Socialists. | ||
| So this is a story about a woman who had her child taken temporarily by Child Protective Services. | ||
| But there are some very important details in the story that are going to be interesting to see if Alex ignores. | ||
| Because the reality of the story... | ||
| Does not work for the narratives that Alex is trying to build up about the CPS. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| But they do if you lie. | ||
| Ah, that's such a good trick. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Why do they always get away with that? | ||
| So, here Alex gets more into the story. | ||
| The Reverend Heidi McGinnis of North Presbyterian Church insists that social workers in Denver Health Medical Center mistakenly assumed good luck and her husband, Philip Gates, were homeless. | ||
| Now, that's what they said in Austin. | ||
| I told the woman, and we've been to a bunch of these, you can't leave, stay right here, we've got people coming to help you with some services. | ||
| And the police come in, they stay on each side, they'll grab one by the arms, they'll go, now it's time to sign. | ||
| But folks, they do this out in the open. | ||
| So one of the sources that's cited in the article is their pastor, McGinnis. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And McGinnis has speculated that the hospital thought that they were homeless. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And so Alex riffs about it a little bit. | ||
| It covers the story a little bit more. | ||
| Hospital officials contact Denver Department of Human Services about their concerns for the child's safety. | ||
| On Saturday on Sunday morning, two-day-old Sunshine Gates was whisked away. | ||
| Or as Ms. McGinnis describes it, they stole our baby. | ||
| Sue Cove, Human Services spokeswoman, said she could not comment on the case. | ||
| Instead, she talked about policy. | ||
| Phrasing her words carefully. | ||
| When we get a referral, we're obliged to follow up on it, she said. | ||
| We rely heavily on family cooperation. | ||
| Oh, got a no Fifth Amendment. | ||
| Fifth month? | ||
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What? | |
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| So, if you're just listening to Alex, you would not have very important context about this story that he's reading, and it's entirely intentional on his part. | ||
| He tells the story he wants the audience to hear, and hides the details that are inconvenient for his ability to spin bullshit yarns. | ||
| The biggest piece of information he's leaving out is that the family was unhoused a couple years prior, and Goodluck's husband was, quote, Right. | ||
| outdated medical records. | ||
| Right. | ||
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He believed that there was a misunderstanding that stemmed from medical records they had on file being from a time when they were experiencing homelessness, which makes the whole thing Kind of make a lot more sense. | |
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| Over the years since, they've had tons of temporary addresses, so you can kind of understand how none of these would necessarily be in the medical records, and CPS would be tasked with offering resources to an unhoused family having a child. | ||
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Right. | |
| The second thing that Alex is not telling his audience is that the baby was put in CPS custody on Sunday and was returned to Miss Good Luck on Monday evening. | ||
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Ooh! | |
| It's something that's unfortunate and may not have been handled perfectly, and maybe... | ||
| Shouldn't have happened, and likely if, you know, better record-keeping was done by all parties involved, it wouldn't have. | ||
| But this wasn't a kidnapping, and it lasted around 24 hours. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It was about the amount of time that they needed to correct their clerical error and do the paperwork. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| The third thing that Alex is leaving out for now, but we'll have to address later, is that good luck is Navajo, and her husband is Lakota. | ||
| Alex is not bringing this detail up because he's trying to do this whole jag about how the system's really after white children, as he expressed. | ||
| And to address that dynamic not existing in this big story he's covering would be kind of suspicious. | ||
| Especially if it's... | ||
| Right, and it leads to another major problem for his entire narrative. | ||
| According to a 2017 release from the National Indian Child Welfare Association, quote, research and data from the states tells us that American Indian slash Alaska Native children are disproportionately represented or overrepresented in the child welfare system nationwide, especially in foster care. | ||
| This means that higher percentages of AI slash AN children are found in the child welfare system than in the general population. | ||
| The overrepresentation of AI and children often starts with reports of abuse and neglect at rates proportionate to their population numbers, but grows higher at each major decision point from investigation to placement, culminating in the overrepresentation of AI and children in placements outside the home. | ||
| This disproportionality has gotten worse in the time since, but the rate was still significant in 2003. | ||
| But this is a dynamic that Alex is not equipped to deal with. | ||
| He doesn't actually care about fixing real problems of how the CPS operates, and he's actually averse to even acknowledging those problems, because for him, the CPS narrative is really just a vehicle for him to engage in white grievance. | ||
| To the extent that he will ever acknowledge that these are a Navajo mother and a Lakota father, he only will recognize it and now they're going to do it to us. | ||
| Now they're doing it to everyone. | ||
| That is the way that he views this. | ||
| And actually looking at the real dynamics is counterproductive for him. | ||
| I mean, and it's just such fucking bullshit of like, you are at symptom number seven of the problem. | ||
| Why were they unhoused in the first place? | ||
| Let's start fucking way back when. | ||
| Yeah, I'm not sure. | ||
| In what world are we allowing that to happen? | ||
| And then you go back even further and you go, not only are they unhoused currently in our terrible system, but they are from a people who were genocided by everybody. | ||
| And we're not... | ||
| Well, a disproportionate taking of children is... | ||
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Totally! | |
| And from the beginning! | ||
| Is not a part of genocide. | ||
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Part of their genocide was the doing of the... | |
| That's what you're doing! | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| Understood in its proper context, this story that Alex is covering is a prime opportunity to discuss this very clearly discriminatory pattern in how these government entities treat native families. | ||
| Further, it could be an opportunity to discuss the ways that benign mistakes like out-of-date medical information can lead to really difficult situations, but they don't necessarily have to lead to disasters. | ||
| Either of these options would bring new, real, useful information to his audience, but neither would create the feelings that he wants to evoke, Namely that all white people are under attack and the government is coming to take your children. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Taking note of the details that Alex chooses to ignore about stories is often a really important part of understanding his editorial process and illustrating what it actually is that he considers important. | ||
| The truth is, informing the audience isn't important. | ||
| The truth itself isn't. | ||
| But spreading racially based fear is pretty super important. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I want to be totally clear about this. | ||
| Alex is excluding information actively and intentionally so the audience doesn't get the full picture. | ||
| After he comes back from break, he continues reading the article, and this is fucking damning. | ||
| Good luck said she told the hospital admissions personnel her address, but while I was there, people kept coming up to me and asking if this is right. | ||
| See, swarming, because a lot of them get cuts of cash. | ||
| She didn't understand it. | ||
| No, didn't understand the new 1984 cesspool we live in. | ||
| The family had lived in Denver area. | ||
| Here's what Alex accidentally started reading and then stopped himself mid-sentence. | ||
| Quote, Good luck said she told hospital admissions personnel her address, but while I was there, people kept coming up to me and asking if this is right. | ||
| She didn't understand it. | ||
| The family had lived in a Denver area homeless shelter for about six months in 1999 and later in a basement apartment provided by a member of the church where Philip Gates has become an ordained elder. | ||
| It's just one chapter in the family's struggle. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Alex, you heard him say they had lived in a Denver area and then stopped right there. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Right there at the word homeless, because that validates why there might have been concern that went awry, obviously not handled perfectly in this situation, but it gives an explanation for why this situation is happening. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Why there was cause for the people to think that maybe she was unhoused. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And he can't let that be. | ||
| It has to be a random thing where there's evil intent on the part of these CPS people. | ||
| He's lying to his audience, and it's so clear. | ||
| When you hear him drop off right there when reading this, it's so fucking obvious. | ||
| Yeah, that's fucked. | ||
| That's just fucked. | ||
| I'm actually more... | ||
| I'm happier when he's making shit up whole cloth, because that's just sad and evil. | ||
| Like, that's actual... | ||
| Bad thing to do. | ||
| Well, it also very clearly shows that he didn't read this before he decided to dedicate an entire show to anti-CPS narratives based on, or at least sort of... | ||
| Bolstered by this kind of bullshit. | ||
| Well, yeah, at least seemingly precipitated by him reading this story. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This story is the launching point for him to have a show all about the CPS and the evils of it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He just didn't even read it. | ||
| He didn't even read it. | ||
| This was before he spent three hours every morning reading and then did his show and then spent five hours every evening reading. | ||
| This was before he got serious, Dan, and started doing a lot more drugs. | ||
| Yeah, I'm sure. | ||
| So, this is also bullshit. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Gates, who was a tribal policeman, said he was shot while working on a joint investigation with the U.S. Drug and Force Administration. | ||
| It goes on to talk about the family. | ||
| This guy's a veteran cop and been to church. | ||
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I mean, and they're not going to get your kid back. | |
| I understand that. | ||
| They don't care. | ||
| They want this to be in the paper. | ||
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Didn't they already get their kid back by this time? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That is just absolutely amazing. | ||
| Alex is not telling his audience that the family had already got the kid back by the time the article he's reading was published. | ||
| He's also stopping himself from disclosing the part where it says that Gates is permanently disabled because of that shooting that he mentions, which naturally would be even more cause for child welfare services to be interested in providing whatever assistance they can. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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This stuff works against Alex's narrative, though. | |
| So it's censored from the most uncensored and most unfiltered Totally. | ||
| Everyone just hates him because he's too truthful, though, really. | ||
| I mean, that's the reason that everyone thinks he's a piece of shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Not because he's a fucking intentional liar. | ||
| It's because he speaks truth to power and threatens the people. | ||
| You know, I mean, it is so weird. | ||
| When we can separate it because he's doing a radio show. | ||
| But essentially, if she was there holding her baby, he would be looking in the eye screaming, you're never going to get that baby back! | ||
| And then she's like, I'm holding it. | ||
| And he's like, this is crazy. | ||
| These people are 1984-ing all over the place here. | ||
| I'm holding the baby! | ||
| But he's on the radio, so it's like, oh, I don't even notice this person isn't existing the way they're supposed to. | ||
| Yeah, it's just abstract to him. | ||
| He doesn't give a shit. | ||
| Doesn't matter. | ||
| Doesn't matter. | ||
| You know, just fake emotion and lie. | ||
| I mean, people are real. | ||
| Is that a conversation that we need to have with Alex of, like, other people exist? | ||
| I know that we do think that he has a bit of a solipsism to him. | ||
| He has trouble with object permanence. | ||
| That's definitely true. | ||
| So, yeah, I don't know. | ||
| It's certainly more... | ||
| Yeah, you know, if you give your children John Birch books before you teach them object permanence, I think we wind up here. | ||
| So, yeah, you have just this real nonsense demonstration here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's lying very intentionally about this article as a way to push his anti-CPS politics. | ||
| Look, it goes to another break. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And maybe he accidentally read the article during the break. | ||
| Ooh, that's a bad idea. | ||
| He had a good chance. | ||
| Now, in Austin, Texas, if you're poor and blue collar and go in for some help having your child, about a third of the time they take your kid. | ||
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Sorry, what? | |
| And you don't get them back. | ||
| That's so many times. | ||
| And in this case, they have gotten the child back. | ||
| When I say they're never getting their child back again. | ||
| They're probably going to show back over and over and over and over again. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| What they've done in many of these cases. | ||
| And this happened mainly because he was a police officer. | ||
| That's why they're doing this. | ||
| Yeah, that's why it happened. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So he read the article because he's correcting himself that they got their kid back. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's aware of that information now, but, you know, assuming that he has read the article, he now knows, you know, the thing that he censored himself from saying. | ||
| And now he's just saying it's because the guy's a cop. | ||
| But he's not. | ||
| He's not a cop. | ||
| He was a cop 22 years ago. | ||
| Who was shot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In the line of duty. | ||
| Yeah, and is permanently disabled for it. | ||
| And is now a church elder. | ||
| Right. | ||
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So... | |
| Great. | ||
| Good work. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I just think this is trash. | ||
| I find it to be awful. | ||
| And then it gets even worse because this whole pageant goes on for quite a while. | ||
| And then Alex has a guest. | ||
| And it's his water filter sponsor. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I mean, he's got thoughts. | ||
| This is one of the few filters, the only I know of, that's not reverse osmosis, that will actually remove this garbage, and it's portable, it's awesome. | ||
| Jim, thanks for being on with us. | ||
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Always a pleasure, Alex. | |
| And by the way, I always enjoy listening to you rant and rave. | ||
| I don't know where you get all your information. | ||
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You've got to be a prodigy to get all this stuff and cram it in your head and get it out. | |
| Well, I mean, it's my webmaster. | ||
| It's my wife. | ||
| It's Violet. | ||
| It's Paul Joseph Watson. | ||
| It's the people that email me all these. | ||
| I've got stacks of stories this bad today, and I've already spent 35 minutes on it. | ||
| I mean, the paper has to admit this is evil. | ||
| Yeah, I find it really... | ||
| I mean, they're in a commercial relationship, so you don't expect necessarily... | ||
| Pushback? | ||
| Right. | ||
| But it's just weird to be like, God, you are so smart. | ||
| You got so much information in that bean. | ||
| After we've just listened to him make shit up. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| And intentionally leave out information that is illuminating about a story. | ||
| There is that con man kind of feel that you just... | ||
| It still blows my mind whenever you feel that actual con man feeling of that person saying, wow, you are smart. | ||
| To somebody clearly making everything up. | ||
| And it's just like, they got taken in and that's it. | ||
| But again, it's the commercial relationship makes it like, maybe he's putting that aside and blowing smoke. | ||
| Yeah, I would imagine that if you have reservations, now is not the time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So the other thing that I was thinking about that I think is a really good point is that... | ||
| Alex could recognize every piece of information about this article and still tell the story that he wants to tell. | ||
| He would have a more difficult time with it perhaps. | ||
| He could not paint the picture that the CPS is randomly just accusing people of being unhoused or something, and using that false accusation as an excuse to steal their child. | ||
| He perhaps couldn't do that, but you could open it up into a, like, that is not cause to take someone's child. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| There's ways that he could incorporate all this information, but it's more difficult. | ||
| It's more difficult in a way that leads you to actual solutions. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It leads you to reforming the system that is there as opposed to creating a cartoonish version of it to be mad about and demand to be demolished. | ||
| Well, and ultimately, it just simply allows you to identify as, I mean, despite Alex insisting that this only happens to white people, it allows you to identify with somebody non-white, which can't! | ||
| What happened on this show? | ||
| They're bolting! | ||
| So Alex takes some calls, and naturally he gets calls from people who have situations with trouble with children and CPS type stuff. | ||
| Ah, they made it up, didn't they? | ||
| So he's got a caller, and this caller is having a difficult time with her child, and Alex has some weird things to say. | ||
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It got to the point she was diagnosed with ADHD. | |
| Which is totally made up. | ||
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Yeah, but by the time the state was done with her, she had nine different labels, psychiatric labels attached to her. | |
| Okay, how did they take her from you and put her out in California? | ||
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Well, she was given to actually the father who abandoned her at birth, who has a history of abuse in this situation, but she was sent to live with him. | |
| How is she doing now? | ||
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She's a mess. | |
| I mean, just her life has been very hard. | ||
| Well, you need to tell her. | ||
| I wish I had time to talk to her in person. | ||
| I would look in her eyes and say, energize, break these bonds. | ||
| In the name of Jesus Christ, and if she really has faith, I'm telling you, I've seen people healed of this bondage. | ||
| She needs to get off all drugs. | ||
| Yeah, Alex would faith heal. | ||
| Wow! | ||
| He would put his hand on her forehead and push her to the floor, and then when she stood up, she would go back and live with her mom? | ||
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Energize! | |
| I don't remember exactly where this woman is calling from, but I think that they're really dancing over something. | ||
| If this child was given, the custody was given to a father who hasn't been in her life, who lives in a different state. | ||
| There's something going on here. | ||
| And it's not just, she got these diagnoses that I disagreed with. | ||
| There's something... | ||
| Really messed up here. | ||
| There's a larger story. | ||
| And dealing with people who are telling these stories and being like, yeah, you're totally right. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Especially if they're unreliable narrators. | ||
| It seems really irresponsible. | ||
| I mean, yeah, you wouldn't... | ||
| I wouldn't want to be like... | ||
| You know, I mean, what you... | ||
| Should I do, I guess, is say, thank you for your call, and then he can stop talking. | ||
| But, I mean, if you wanted to keep talking, then you would have to ask, like, further probing questions. | ||
| Like, okay, well then... | ||
| Alex doesn't do that. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| They just yell about how CPS is in your show. | ||
| Oh, you're totally right! | ||
| No, you're totally right! | ||
| Yeah, and then the caller says this, and it just bums me the fuck out. | ||
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And I just really want to thank you for your strength and your conviction, Alex. | |
| And I listen to you just about every day as often as I can. | ||
| I stop doing what I'm doing to listen and learn. | ||
| And then I pass on what I've learned. | ||
| And I've lost a lot of friends along the way, and I've lost a lot of my family. | ||
| Well, that's what happens in Nazi Germany. | ||
| A lot of people want to serve the Hitler system. | ||
| A lot of people want to serve Adolf Hitler. | ||
| And so they don't like you saying what Hitler's doing is wrong. | ||
| They think all this is normal. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, that is a bummer. | ||
| That's cult shit. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's... | ||
| Boy. | ||
| I study your broadcast, and I tell people in my life about it, and I've lost friends and family because I won't... | ||
| Yeah, I mean, when you start with my child was sent to live with a father she didn't really know, In a different state. | ||
| And then end with, I've lost friends and family because I tell them all about what Alex Jones says all the time. | ||
| Then, I mean, you're starting to put some things together. | ||
| That's not the full picture. | ||
| And it's so bad. | ||
| I know Alex can't behave any other way, really. | ||
| But it's so bad for him to be like, yeah, that's because they can't handle the truth. | ||
| They love worshipping Hitler. | ||
| It's just doubling down on this abusive influence. | ||
| Yeah, you're never going to see a cult leader be like, hey, listen, you might be going a little bit too far with my bullshit. | ||
| How about you step back? | ||
| Go hang out with your friends at the Sonic. | ||
| Or whatever it is you kids do, and then come back and we'll get back into this cult stuff. | ||
| Ma 'am, this is supposed to be a fun con. | ||
| You're really bumming me out, lady. | ||
| Lady? | ||
| I'm just trying to screw people out of money, and now you're telling me I'm hurting them? | ||
| This is going to be tough for me to look in the mirror, but I will try and deal with my wounds. | ||
| Smash all of my mirrors. | ||
| I'll deal with my wounds by rubbing money on them, and that'll feel better. | ||
| I'll buy another house. | ||
| That's a bummer, and I think we need to feel a little bit better by going to something a little more fun, and that is, it's time to go to Alex's memories of his past corner. | ||
| Ooh, I like it. | ||
| Here's a fun story about Alex in high school. | ||
| Another dead dog? | ||
| No. | ||
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Oh. | |
| This is what they do, and I've seen it a thousand times. | ||
| Folks, I was a straight A-plus student. | ||
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What? | |
| My first couple years in high school, you know, I screwed around, was on the football team. | ||
| Phone calls! | ||
| Didn't go to school, you know, quite a bit, played hooky, all that stuff. | ||
| But by the time I was a sophomore, into my sophomore year, junior, senior, by the time I was a senior, I was making 100, 100, 100, 100, 98, 99. I mean, my report card was a joke. | ||
| It was so good. | ||
| That is a joke. | ||
| That year was a 99 average or something. | ||
| I mean, it was ridiculous. | ||
| There was somebody who had 100, so of course, you know, they got all the awards. | ||
| And so I was done with school. | ||
| That's why you didn't get the awards. | ||
| So, you know, they had me in their first period to be an assistant. | ||
| I would walk around and bring the notes to the class for people that had to come to see the counselor. | ||
| Little did I know to be secret policed, you know, to be set up or whatever, to be brought to the principal. | ||
| So that's so Trump right there, man. | ||
| It's like, my report card was so good, it's a joke. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| That's the best report card. | ||
| And this is 2003, man. | ||
| They were born for each other. | ||
| They really were. | ||
| So apparently Alex, at this point in high school, is getting perfect grades in basically every class, and also he's constantly having sex with and impregnating adult women as well as fellow students and getting abortions. | ||
| And he's a Satanist. | ||
| Also, yeah, he's being recruited into a satanic ring run by the elites in Rockwall who wanted to stop him from fulfilling his destiny of being the linchpin in God's plans to vanquish the devil. | ||
| Also, at some point in the middle, he uncovered a drug dealing conspiracy in the Rockwall. | ||
| I think unbelievable is the operative word there for Alex's self-mythology. | ||
| I would say a little bit overstuffed. | ||
| If I was describing the plot of this movie here, I would say overstuffed. | ||
| Streamlined! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Streamlined! | ||
| Focus on a few important details. | ||
| Also, look, I didn't get good grades in high school, and I did end up dropping out before I went to college. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I dropped out of high school, but I was friends with a lot of nerds. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| All right? | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And I was friends with the guy who was the valedictorian of the class before me, a year older than me. | ||
| And look, They don't just choose one person who gets accolades. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| First of all, I dropped out of high school, and I was a national merit scholar. | ||
| Of course you were. | ||
| So there are national merit scholars. | ||
| There are all kinds of people who get scholarships to colleges. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| There's the valedictorian. | ||
| There's sometimes co-valedictorians. | ||
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There are. | |
| There's the other cum laude, even, in high school. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I remember there being four people who were not president, vice president, treasurer, secretary, but there was the valedictorian and then three other people who got real damn good grades. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| If Alex was second to one guy, who could... | ||
| I mean, it's borderline bronze, silver. | ||
| Gold medals kind of situation. | ||
| Nonsense, Alex. | ||
| Also, in high school, my buddy Cole, he helped out with the counselor's office, going around and delivering passes to students who had appointments so they could be, you know, they wouldn't be counted as tardy or truant in their class. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And that dude definitely didn't have all As. | ||
| He just had an open period, and the counselors liked him. | ||
| But I guess in Alex's case, they were really trying to secretly deputize him or some shit. | ||
| I think that would have been the first step. | ||
| You know, like, we've talked about the school-to-prison pipeline, but we don't talk about the school-to-globalism pipeline. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It goes through the counselor's office. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Who else would be there? | ||
| They're not busy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The counselors loved Cole. | ||
| I would sometimes come and help him hand out passes, because I would just skip classes randomly, too. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Why not? | ||
| And they would always, like, whenever he'd walk in, they'd be like, Big Sexy! | ||
| It was the best. | ||
| They loved it. | ||
| That is great. | ||
| That is great. | ||
| So yeah, apparently for Alex, it was much darker. | ||
| I like a more collegial relationship between teachers and students in high school. | ||
| That was not the case for me. | ||
| It was very confrontational, and I'm sure that was probably mostly my fault. | ||
| I feel like it went both ways for me. | ||
| Some teachers, it was very confrontational, and then some were far more like... | ||
| Treated you almost like a little equal. | ||
| You know, one of my favorite teachers did say, well, if they didn't fuck around with you, then they wouldn't have had a problem. | ||
| That's probably not what you should tell to a 14-year-old. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| Probably not, but he did have a point. | ||
| He didn't fuck around with me, and we had a great time. | ||
| I had a broadcast production class, and the teacher was a guy named Ron Widbin, who was the best. | ||
| And I was in the class three years in high school. | ||
| I had a key to the room, because I had an editing bay in it. | ||
| And so I would come after hours and edit video and stuff. | ||
| And so the class was mostly just about... | ||
| Making stories for the public access... | ||
| Like, there was a show called 16 Minutes. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| That was the schools... | ||
| The students make stories about the local community. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| And then Ron Whitbin's the host of it. | ||
| 60 Minutes, but you only get 16. Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And so we were just told we could make whatever stories we wanted. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And so I would go... | ||
| Again, not something you should tell a 14-year-old. | ||
| I did one story about how secretly Chess Club was like a hotbed of communism at the high school. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| And so I had my friend Matt pretend to be like, I did a plant, and one of the guys in the chess club was a friend of mine, and so he played along with it. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| The guy who sponsored the chess club, like the teacher, and I were also on Friendly Turns, and so he was messing around a bit. | ||
| He was all about it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so I made this story, and I turned it in to be aired, and Ron, he was just like, he would always just be like, Dan, you're killing me. | ||
| You're killing me. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| But he'd still put it on. | ||
| Oh, that's good stuff. | ||
| That's good stuff. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| That's a good teacher move where you're like, you're doing this wrong, but also, come on, baby, you're on the screen. | ||
| Yeah, so anyway, Alex was... | ||
| Gestapo for the counselor's office or something. | ||
| I mean, man, that's just one of those things that I hate when people lie about. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Why would you lie about it? | ||
| Because you're incredibly insecure. | ||
| I know, but the only thing I've learned after high school is how stupid all of the information on the tests was because the better information was everywhere else. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I think if you do well in school and you're proud of it, there's nothing to be ashamed of. | ||
| No, that's great. | ||
| I think that if you didn't do well in school and you're lying about it because you want people to think you did well in school... | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| You gotta stop doing that. | ||
| Just be like, hey, listen, I didn't get good grades in school. | ||
| See? | ||
| Now we're off to the races, buddy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Easy peasy. | ||
| Oh, it's that Eminem line. | ||
| Stupid as shit, Rich is fucking proud of it. | ||
| That's the way you do it! | ||
| So Alex has another story from his youth in school. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This one's a little bit longer because it's a little bit confusing. | ||
| Where's Ronson for all of this? | ||
| This should be an episode that he's listening to this story being like, what the fuck? | ||
| He shouldn't be allowed to say that! | ||
| We're gonna need a fact check on this one. | ||
| We're gonna need a Ronson here. | ||
| I'm down there and I've told the story a few times. | ||
| Let me tell it briefly and then I'll go to Jim and others. | ||
| I'm down there and this is Anderson High School. | ||
| And we had some general at the time, literally, Army Reserve General was his name as the principal. | ||
| And I would actually do the work. | ||
| He just loved it. | ||
| He'd order me around. | ||
| I'd unload giant pallets of paper and do all this stuff. | ||
| And I didn't care. | ||
| And one day, I mean, it was like a month before school got out, I had this horrible headache. | ||
| And I knew. | ||
| I said, I'm getting the flu. | ||
| And at 17 years old, I still had to call mommy so I could drive home. | ||
| I had my Mustang out in the parking lot. | ||
| I called. | ||
| I go to the nurse's office. | ||
| He goes, oh yeah, 101. | ||
| It looks like you're getting the flu. | ||
| And I'm like, yeah, I just want to go home. | ||
| He goes, well, before you call your mother, you're pretty good looking. | ||
| And I mean, I'm a real good looking at 17, and I'm getting a lot of weight now. | ||
| You know, blonde hair, blue eyes. | ||
| I knew the story was made up at the beginning, but what? | ||
| 30 pounds, 185 pounds is what I weighed, and I look like Bruce Lee, folks. | ||
| There's photos of me out there on the internet. | ||
| One of my friends sent a picture of me looking weights to the paper, and I got put in the paper when I was about 20. But the point is that she's hitting on me, and she's pretty good looking. | ||
| She's a blonde herself, 30 years old. | ||
| She goes, yeah. | ||
| She goes, you use drugs? | ||
| And I go, I'm wearing a polo shirt, slacks, and, you know, top-sider shoes. | ||
| And I go, do I look like I use drugs? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And, I mean, at that time, I didn't even drink coffee. | ||
| I go, I don't even drink coffee. | ||
| I remember this very crisp memory of this. | ||
| She says, well, you ever want to, you know, she started hitting on me. | ||
| You ever want to go out? | ||
| Because I guess it was about a month until I was out of high school, so she was, it was like a month until school got, she was hitting on me. | ||
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I'm sure. | |
| And so, I'm sitting there, and this is happening, and she says, use drugs? | ||
| And I go, no. | ||
| She goes, you like speed? | ||
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I said, no, I just told you I don't. | |
| No. | ||
| I said, why are you asking me all this? | ||
|
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Because I want to get fucked up. | |
| She watches me every morning in first period walk around in there, you know, doing all the work for these people. | ||
| I brought supplies into her before when it came off the truck. | ||
| And she says, well, I want to give you the card to a doctor. | ||
| You've got a lot of energy. | ||
| He said, Ritalin, it's like speed, you'll like it. | ||
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I mean, folks, that's America, okay? | |
| Yeah, so he had a flu, the nurse wanted to fuck him, and also she wanted to give him speed because he had a lot of energy, so let's get him more energy. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| I am... | ||
| This is a story that happened. | ||
| I am... | ||
| Here's how I feel like this story actually happened. | ||
| Alex was kind of sick. | ||
| Not that sick. | ||
| Wanted to go home anyways, so he's going to give his mom a call. | ||
| Gets the temperature, and they're like, okay. | ||
| And then, while I've got you here, let me ask you a question. | ||
| Are you doing drugs right now? | ||
| I mean, that's possible. | ||
| And then it's like, hey, you know, you have... | ||
| I think she was trying to give me drugs and fuck me. | ||
| You have ADHD, you know, so there's this medication out there. | ||
| I don't know, maybe it might help you deal with some of your... | ||
| Are you trying to fuck me? | ||
| Great, great. | ||
| No, no, no, go home. | ||
| Go home, please! | ||
| I have a story that's... | ||
| So glad school's gonna be out in a month. | ||
| I have a story that's kind of close to this, but it's not really. | ||
| It has nothing to do with a teacher trying to pick me up or anything. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| But in college, I went to the student health center because I had strep throat. | ||
| And I couldn't swallow pills. | ||
| I didn't know what was going on. | ||
| I hadn't had it before. | ||
| And so I had a terrible fever. | ||
| And so the guy who was the doctor at the student health center gave me some liquid. | ||
| Steroids to take. | ||
| And he did say, careful, this is what the rappers rap about. | ||
| That's the way you do it. | ||
| And it's not like he was trying to give me drugs. | ||
| Nope, nope. | ||
| That was a little bit inappropriate, but in a delightful way. | ||
| That is a delightful way. | ||
| I really enjoyed it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| Also, the very, what would I say, uptight way of describing, this is what the rappers rap about. | ||
| He might have said the rappers sing about. | ||
| That's taking it up another level. | ||
| He wasn't like an old, out-of-touch person or anything. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| He's a professional. | ||
| His framing of it, his phrasing was still weird. | ||
| But yeah, I can still remember that 20 years later as a delightful moment where I'm like 100-something fever, just unable to swallow a pill, and just like, hey, this is the purple stuff. | ||
| Every now and again, there are those moments where I'm like, what if I could run into that person? | ||
| You know, after... | ||
| Because there are tons of those little memories you have where you're like, this person has no idea that because they flicked a penny at me 20 years ago, that is in my brain forever. | ||
| Like, I want to go talk to them and have them have that very validating feeling of, I have no idea what you're talking about, sir. | ||
| Like, that kind of thing. | ||
| I think you would probably come off real crazy because you would be like, alright, here's what happened. | ||
| I don't remember this at all. | ||
| This is how important this is to me! | ||
| This is how important it is to me! | ||
| You don't care at all! | ||
| But I need to bother you! | ||
| So we had a fun time in that corner of Alex's remembrance. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Nonsense. | ||
| Where was the Satanism in that story? | ||
| Non-existent. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I want more Satanism in all of these stories. | ||
| Well, actually, the school nurse was working on behalf of the Satanists who were trying to get Alex hooked on speed. | ||
| That helps. | ||
| In order to take him away from his connection with God because he was going to be so important in the plot against the devil later on. | ||
| We solved it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So now something really fucked up happens. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I can't believe that this happened. | ||
| Alex has the dad from the Denver Post story on as a guest. | ||
| No! | ||
| Yes. | ||
| No? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| No! | ||
| So let's go ahead and go to the Reverend Heidi McGinnis of the North Presbyterian Church saying that social workers are out of control. | ||
| And, oh yeah, that's putting it lightly. | ||
| And, of course, the husband... | ||
| As well, the father, Mr. Gates, who are now both on the show with us. | ||
| Thanks for coming on. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| Who would like to make some comments about what's developed first, the Reverend or Mr. Gates? | ||
| Sounds like we got people on speaker phones? | ||
| Or something's whistling in the background? | ||
| So yeah, he has them on, which is crazy, because this is so much more disrespectful. | ||
| He hadn't read the article before he got on air, but they had booked them as guests on that show. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I was floored by this. | ||
| Listen, if you do like a nightly talk show, I didn't think that Jon Stewart read every book of the person he was interviewing that night. | ||
| I bet he skimmed through it. | ||
| I bet he did his best for every book. | ||
| I bet he read more than some people might think. | ||
| I bet he read a lot more than would equate to a... | ||
| Say, single article. | ||
| I bet he read more than a thousand words of every single one of those books. | ||
| I would guarantee it. | ||
| Well, those interviews are probably booked pretty well in advance. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| I think that one of the things that's really weird about this is, like, this is 2003. | ||
| Like, his wife is probably booking the show, right? | ||
| I mean, like, he doesn't have a big team at this point. | ||
| He doesn't have his Daria. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| How did this happen? | ||
| I understand the booking happening. | ||
| That makes sense to me. | ||
| You can reach out to them, see if they want to come on and do an interview. | ||
| Happens two seconds. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| How does it happen that you know you're going to do this interview and you don't read the article and you whiff the story, essentially? | ||
| How is it that you didn't even have somebody give you the CliffsNotes version of the article? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know? | ||
| How do you have to correct yourself that they got their kid back? | ||
| I mean, that's crazy. | ||
| That is the central thing to the story! | ||
| How do you seem to be caught off guard in the middle of the story that the guy is a cop? | ||
| Yeah, that's not good. | ||
| No, that's a pretty big detail. | ||
| So, look, they don't talk about the past homelessness. | ||
| Alex steers away from a lot of the, like, germane issues. | ||
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Right. | |
| Because he wants to just talk about, like, hey, let's talk about how evil these people are. | ||
| He wants to talk shit. | ||
| Normally a social worker will count coup. | ||
| You know what that term is. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Normally it's an Indian term. | ||
| Wow! | ||
| Well, normally they will, but all cultures do it. | ||
|
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Yes. | |
| After the victory, was there a child-grabbing celebration? | ||
| Did she make any comment or was there a smile? | ||
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I believe she stepped out of the hallway and she was out in the hallway for a while. | |
| We were not sure what went on, but the charge nurse that was in charge of the Lord there said that she was kind of upset by what had happened out there. | ||
| We didn't get her version of what was, but we stayed in the room. | ||
| Wait, the charge nurse was upset by what she saw? | ||
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Yes. | |
| She saw a vampiric celebration dance. | ||
| Literally, folks, I've seen them do it. | ||
| So you watched a culture of death dance. | ||
| This must have been horrible. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| She did the robot out in the hallway. | ||
| I was going to say, what is the vampiric celebration dance? | ||
| Well, it's the robot because it's dehumanizing. | ||
| It's taking a human and taking on the characteristics of a robot. | ||
| Do vampires traditionally want robots? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Oh, I did not know that. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| In Alex's world, the metaphorical robots, or the metaphorical vampires want literal robots. | ||
| See, because I'm seeing something more along the lines of like, Ray Lewis' celebration dance, because this is 2003, right? | ||
| So Ray Lewis and the Baltimore Raven still wrecking the world, you know? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And so I'm assuming that, like, she burst out of the door and then, like, did one of those, ah, ah, ah, ah, with the things. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Have you seen the dance? | ||
| I have, I have, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know what they're doing. | ||
| So yeah, Alex just wants to create these images, these evil images that are evocative for the audience. | ||
| The story is good for bringing those up and selling them to the audience. | ||
| The feeling is what's important. | ||
| When he interjects before he's... | ||
| He's talking to the father, and the father is trying to tell the story. | ||
| And so whenever Alex says, like, oh, she was smiling, wasn't she? | ||
| He's like... | ||
| Well, I mean, she did leave the... | ||
| So he's implanted into that guy's mind, before we even go any further, that it's possible, in fact, likely, and then later, guaranteed and true that she did a dance. | ||
| And we're not entirely even sure, based on the way he's telling this, what the charge nurse was talking about. | ||
| Did she think it was inappropriate, what went on in the room, the conversation that the CPS people had with the mother? | ||
| It's unclear. | ||
| But it doesn't really matter on this show, because it's all just... | ||
| Just fuel on the fire of hating the CPS. | ||
| So one of the things that is clear is that the Reverend McGinnis and this father are both... | ||
| Upset with the CPS. | ||
| And one of the things that they want to make clear is that there should be ways to stop these processes when they're being done in error. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, they're not talking about overthrowing the CPS like Alex is. | ||
| No, safeguard. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If there is something that is erroneous... | ||
| Outdated information that people are acting on. | ||
| There should be a way to put a halt in the proceedings so they don't go so far as to remove a child when you're just going to have them away for 24 hours. | ||
| There should be safeguards, basically. | ||
| And Alex is not in agreement on this. | ||
| Oh, of course not. | ||
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We want to say that there are many dedicated social workers, and we're certainly not, that do act in good faith. | |
| We're certainly not declaring war on them. | ||
| What we are really shocked about is that there is no mechanism in place to put a brake on these proceedings because, you know, Alex, I think your listening audience and I, we know that on hospitals, on weekends, hospitals, usually the offices have kind of a slowing down effect. | ||
| And what we're shocked and outraged about is the great speed with which this child was yanked away from her mother's death. | ||
| Ma 'am, you can say you're not declaring war. | ||
| They declared war on us. | ||
| Sure, there's a few good people in the system. | ||
| But when you get into the CPS area, they have a mandate by the government. | ||
| I've read the documents on air. | ||
| This is a business. | ||
| This is about breaking up the family. | ||
| And I think if you found out the full ramifications, you'd be shocked. | ||
| The hospitals, city hospitals, interface with these people and actually profit from it. | ||
| I just want you to know that. | ||
| So I think that kind of illustrates the dynamic that's involved. | ||
| There is an awareness campaign, something that is legitimate on the part of this family and this reverend, a request, something that is a structural improvement that I think even people within the CPS would be like, you know what? | ||
| That is something that needs to be addressed. | ||
| That's something that we could do a better job on. | ||
| If you just said to a regular CPS employee all day, every day, just like, hey, maybe we don't rip newborns from their mother's hands. | ||
| Like, maybe we just don't do that. | ||
| They'd be like, yeah, I think that makes sense. | ||
| And Alex has a different take on it. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Burn it all down. | ||
| And they're at odds. | ||
| And you can see that Alex doesn't respect his guest's perspective. | ||
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No. | |
| He wants to get them to mirror his perspective. | ||
| Because that's what's important, and that's what will sell the feeling to the audience that he needs to sell them in order to keep them in that cult-like state, like that one caller who bummed us out earlier. | ||
| No, I mean, part of it is, you know, it is a little bit like he's trying to red-pill them at the same time, you know? | ||
| Like when we were at the trial, you know, he's trying to red-pill the jury, and he's thinking that he's doing it, like... | ||
| On the phone right here, he's like, don't you guys want to start a fucking war? | ||
| Like, no! | ||
| The war has already started. | ||
| No, it's not! | ||
| They started it on us. | ||
| No! | ||
| So this was the 8th. | ||
| That was a Friday. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And we're going to jump to the Monday show because it's kind of also a wasteland. | ||
| Not much going on. | ||
| But there is something really big going on. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Paul Joseph Watson, my webmaster for PrisonPlanet.com, who's also a great writer, has written his debut book. | ||
| It is Order Out of Chaos, Elite Sponsored Terrorism and the New World Order, 334 pages long. | ||
| I published it, and you can get it at Infowars.com or PrisonPlanet.com by linking through to our secure online shopping cart. | ||
| So please take advantage of that, and Paul Joseph Watson will be joining us to talk about So this is about a month after Kelly died, and Alex has presented literally no new information past the vague insinuations he used to call Kelly's death a murder when he first covered it. | ||
| This is something that the Alex Jones is always right about stuff crowd should really think about. | ||
| The protracted, long nonsense narratives that he gets up to. | ||
| Also, I love the way that Alex catches himself mid-sentence there. | ||
| He's saying that the media is calling Kelly's death a suicide with no proof, and he almost said, so we're going to call it a murder with no proof. | ||
| It was so close. | ||
| He really did have a certain amount of like, yeah, if they're going to do it, then I'll do it right back to him, energy to him. | ||
| It was right there. | ||
| Also, Paul's book is out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that is just an opportunity for me to say that in my hand, I have a copy of The Great Reset, Alex's book. | ||
| I unfortunately did buy a copy of it. | ||
| I bought it through Amazon, though, so Alex's enemy Bezos would make a little money, which, honestly, it's just me cutting myself in both directions. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's great. | ||
| It's a double-edged sword. | ||
| But, hey, it sucks. | ||
| I've read a little bit of it so far. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| I believe it. | ||
| And we'll talk about that in greater detail at a later date. | ||
| Yeah, you know, it's... | ||
| Maybe the next... | ||
| We have some really monumental episode number, like 748 or something. | ||
| What are we on now, 720 something? | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| Yeah, great. | ||
| We're doing... | ||
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Some random number. | |
| 737. | ||
| It'll be our flight episode. | ||
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Ooh. | |
| We'll fly out of here. | ||
| 747. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| 757. | ||
| 777. | ||
| I really don't know how high it goes. | ||
| Is there a 787? | ||
| No, but a 777, that's like a lottery. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| If Alex ever did a show in Vegas for 777, that's what we should cover. | ||
| That is what we would cover, yeah. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| Anyway, his book sucks. | ||
| And so does Paul's. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But the David Kelly narrative is now growing. | ||
| It is no longer just that this was a guy who's going to blow the whistle about the Iraq war and the weapons of mass destruction stuff. | ||
| Now he's hanging out with Saddam Hussein's kids? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| But it goes deep. | ||
| Also, microbiologists would link to race-based weapons herning up dead, which tells me the globalists are about to start releasing that. | ||
| This is from the American Free Press. | ||
| Dr. David Kelly, of course, was involved in bioweapons of race-specific systems. | ||
| Gordon Thomas, this is very important. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't recall Kelly being involved in race-specific systems. | ||
| Well, I mean, he worked at Port and Down, and that means that Alex can say anything. | ||
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That's there. | |
| That's true. | ||
| So, yeah, the race-specific bioweapon people are dying, and David Kelly is an example of one of the murders that the globalists are doing to cover up their race-specific bioweapon because they're about to release it. | ||
| There is a preoccupation that Alex has with race-specific bioweapons. | ||
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Oh, you think? | |
| Yes. | ||
| I wonder what race it is he wishes weren't. | ||
| Hit by a race-specific. | ||
| I have some theories. | ||
| It is ironic that he's never been like, and you know what would be terrible? | ||
| A race-specific not-bioweapon that is a bioweapon for all other non-race-specific bioweapon. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| That's kind of what he wants. | ||
| Well, I think the people who don't listen to his show much... | ||
| You might hear some of the COVID stuff, let's say. | ||
| Especially in the early days of COVID when he was like, this is a race-specific bioweapon. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| And you'd think like, oh, that's an interesting angle he's going on. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Not realizing he does this shit all the fucking time. | ||
| Race-specific bioweapons are always somehow in play. | ||
| Ebola was race-specific for a while. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's always been like, at the end of the day, man, white people... | ||
| Are the only people that matter. | ||
| That's what he's trying to get across. | ||
| That's his raison d 'etre. | ||
| So Paul is on, and they talk about his book a little bit, but Alex has another little theory that this hasn't panned out. | ||
| Well, also, here at HEB, an HEB about a half mile from where I'm sitting, where I'm nesting right now, Is the clip I have in Police State 3 where I go in and they've got the sign up that soon we're going to have inkless fingerprint readers who'll have to do it here to buy stuff, to buy and sell to big pitches. | ||
| Oh, I think I read that before. | ||
| And I talk to her. | ||
| I go, well, is this hooked into the police? | ||
| She goes, uh-huh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it's hooked into, you know, checking when you thumbprint that you are who you say you are, the driver's license database. | ||
| And, well, there it is. | ||
| The signs are going in. | ||
| And then in some of the stores, the thumb scanners are going in. | ||
| And simultaneously, at the Home Depot by my house, guys, they pulled out just three of the checkout lanes about a year ago. | ||
| They pulled out, you know, they have about 15 lanes or 12 lanes. | ||
| They pulled out three where it would be self-serve. | ||
| You know, scan your own stuff, do your own stuff. | ||
| Well, now I was in there last week, and now they've pulled out three more. | ||
| Now there's six. | ||
| And I've read the federal plans. | ||
| They're going to pull them all out. | ||
| You're going to go in. | ||
| They're going to save for security and see after they get the self-serves in. | ||
| Then they put the thumb printer in, which they're now doing. | ||
| I mean, this is so sneaky, folks. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Well, we also had the article a couple of weeks ago out of America where McDonald's are introducing these self-serve counters as well as many different supermarkets. | ||
| People need to recognise that it's not just about the government tracking what you buy, it's about them having the ability to refuse purchase on any particular product. | ||
| Still waiting on those thumb scanners and police ID databases to go into the grocery stores 19 years later here. | ||
| We got wireless cards, like, three years ago. | ||
| And, like, honestly, if you don't sign the back of your debit or credit card when you use it, people are supposed to ask for your ID, and they don't do that even. | ||
| Seems like what was going on here in Alex's theory maybe wasn't a real thing, and maybe the move towards automation was more about cutting down operating expenses by eliminating human workers. | ||
| Also, I assume that if this clip that Alex is describing is real, it was a woman just being like, yeah, whatever. | ||
| Just being like, I don't want to talk to you. | ||
| Yeah, that would make sense. | ||
| Also, Paul seems to have no idea what he's talking about. | ||
| Right now, McDonald's can refuse to serve you for any reason, as long as it's not because you're a member of a protected class. | ||
| If someone's making a scene, they can be refused service. | ||
| If you suspect that someone's drunk, you can refuse service. | ||
| If someone's barefoot or wearing no shirt, you can refuse them service. | ||
| As long as you're not discriminating based on protected classes, you have the right to run your business how you see fit. | ||
| Like, for instance, it's not illegal for a high-end restaurant to refuse to serve you if you don't fit their dress code. | ||
| Not take a reservation from you if you stayed there before and you caused a problem They can do that. | ||
| They can refuse service. | ||
| They do have that right. | ||
| Paul technically says that putting in self-checkout is about being able to deny purchase of some particular product, but this makes less sense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is he suggesting that I might one day go to McDonald's and they'll refuse to sell me anything but a McChicken because they think I've had too much red meat that day? | ||
| That seems like what he's saying, and that's bizarre. | ||
| I think I'm going to go further. | ||
| If he's saying that it's the self-checkout thing that's doing it, then that would suggest to me that you're... | ||
| Bringing all of these items, you're checking the beep, beep, and you get an item that they're like, no, no, no, you don't get to buy eggs. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, I don't understand. | ||
| How is that helpful? | ||
| There's not even a person there to stop me. | ||
| I could just steal it and put it in my bag. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| I steal shit from the self-checkout line by accident all the time. | ||
| Yeah, David Drake has that joke about how everything is bananas. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He brings up everything is bananas. | ||
| But look, it is actually about this. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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| They're going to be able to tax you, so you'll still be able to pay cash, but they're going to swipe the card so it keeps a record of that, thus making it cashless, and then you're going to have all these different little taxes depending on what you're getting. | ||
| And it says the ground hamburger won't be taxed as a fattening food unless you buy too much of it for that month. | ||
| So it's actually introducing rationing. | ||
| And then they're going to say, well, we have to do this tracking so terrorists don't attack the food supply. | ||
| They always have the terror excuse to implement, but then when you read their own reports, it's about taxation and control. | ||
| So this is dumb. | ||
| But also, the tracking your purchases of food would have no effect on being able to protect the supply chain from any kind of terrorist influence. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, the consumer end of it wouldn't make any sense as an excuse for them to use. | ||
| So I find this uncompelling. | ||
| Yeah, you know, it is... | ||
| No beef for you! | ||
| It is so stupid, especially now that we know about metadata. | ||
| You know, like, before, they had no... | ||
| Oh, they could track you if they have a chip. | ||
| No, man. | ||
| Because your cell phone is some place, they can figure out what your day is like easily. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Just done. | ||
| Your cell phone exists, so they know where every way you go. | ||
| There is some amount of data that is available. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It is not to the level that Paul is predicting in this next clip. | ||
| It's not Enemy of the State starring Will Smith. | ||
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| And this is, I mean, it's far beyond that even, according to Paul. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| In a similar vein to owning a mobile phone, which is seen as cool these days, obviously 10 years ago it was a new development. | ||
| But in ten years, they are predicting that everyone will have this life-log system whereby your heartbeat, your brainwaves, every conversation that you have with anyone is recorded and sent straight to a government database. | ||
| Now, this isn't Paul Watson around the show. | ||
| They weren't wrong. | ||
| This is May. | ||
| Yes, they were. | ||
| Pentagon DARPA released a few weeks ago, every breath, every heartbeat to be tracked by scanner cameras. | ||
| And in Boston Logan Airport and four others, they put the MRI scanner that looks at your brainwaves to see if you're aggressive or upset, and they need to come over and speak with you. | ||
| This is a great example of how Alex is an idiot, and listening to him is stupid. | ||
| He's saying that there are MRIs in the airport, and then reporting that it's some kind of a plan to detect aggression or nefarious intent in people. | ||
| This is insane, but it's based on a kernel of truth, which is that MRI technology is used in airports. | ||
| It's used to scan bags because the idea of human application of MRI in an airport is laughable. | ||
| If you've ever had an MRI done, you'll know that it's a complicated process where you're put into a big machine and then you have to stay completely still or else you'll ruin the pictures that the doctor is taking inside your head. | ||
| While the machine angrily yells at you. | ||
| Sometimes they have to give people, like, sedatives. | ||
| You have to go a bunch. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Imagining that you could effectively use MRI technology on something not staying completely still is absurd. | |
| And it would pretty much be useless in a crowded airport terminal. | ||
| One of the primary applications of MRI tech in the airport has to do with screening liquids because that's something that x-rays are not traditionally very good with. | ||
| Also, 19 years later, and Paul's 10-year prediction is looking shitty, because, I mean, like, yes, there are things like data that's collected. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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You know, there are things that Yeah. | |
| You know, concerns about things listening or what have you. | ||
| Even though that may be true, that is a far cry from every conversation you have being recorded by some government database and every heartbeat that you have. | ||
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| Like, all of this is, like, a system that is, like, first of all, would not be useful. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| That's the thing! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the thing about it! | ||
| That we do know for a fact. | ||
| The evil folks would have no use for that. | ||
| It would be too much. | ||
| It's too much information to find anything. | ||
| That's why the NSA's wide-sweeping program, when they start looking into how much use they get out of it, it's like, no, now your signal-to-noise ratio is all noise. | ||
| If you have everyone's heartbeat logged in something, I don't know. | ||
| Whose heartbeat are you listening to? | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's everyone! | ||
| In every single conversation and every breath. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Is that just to check in on you and make sure you're okay? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A lot of strong predictions coming out here. | ||
| And we're going to end this episode with, like I said, the 11th, there's not much going on. | ||
| A little bit of wasteland. | ||
| But there's something that is fucking awesome. | ||
| And it's a delightful note for this episode to end on. | ||
| And take it away, PJW. | ||
| I recently saw an episode of the sitcom Frasier on British television, and the plot went like this. | ||
| One of the brothers joined a gun club, and to all the other characters' surprise, he became friends with the other members of the club and began to see them regularly. | ||
| And throughout the rest of the show, everyone was questioning his integrity about the fact that he was hanging out with, in their words, these wacko gun nut survivalists. | ||
| But the most interesting aspect came at the very end of the show, where one of the brothers walked into the gun club and found all the other members crowded around something talking. | ||
| And when he said, hey guys, what's that? | ||
| And the other members came back and said, quote, it's a machine we're building to defeat the New World Order. | ||
| And then the plot went that the brother ran out of the gun club and... | ||
| The studio audience laughed hysterically, and that was basically the end of the show. | ||
| I'm begging everyone, total red alert. | ||
| I absolutely must have that on video. | ||
| That's total gold. | ||
| Was that a new episode or an old one? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Well, it was on about six months ago, and obviously the repeat screen later here in Britain. | ||
| I got an old episode of Frasier to tell you about, Alex. | ||
| I can't think of anything dumber. | ||
| To me, personally, than the idea that you are going to pull up an old Frasier episode as proof of whatever argument you are making. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The end. | ||
| And I would love, Alex, to watch that episode where they think the dog is depressed. | ||
| Because that one's a bummer. | ||
| So, look, this is a great opportunity for me to go watch an episode of Frasier. | ||
| Sure, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I'm not going to turn that down. | ||
| You love Frasier. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| It's harder to watch. | ||
| Now, with Kelsey Grammer, but I put that aside and just enjoy it for what it is. | ||
| Listen, I don't mind watching X-Men. | ||
| The dude's beast. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| Not a good beast. | ||
| Not a good beast. | ||
| So, the plot of this episode is that Niles goes to a shooting range with his dad, because his dad was a former cop. | ||
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Right. | |
| You know? | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| This is not an anti-gun show. | ||
| The dad's a cop. | ||
| Yeah, there's a reason for... | ||
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Yeah. | |
| A character-based reason for the show. | ||
| And so Niles doesn't want to shoot. | ||
| But he does, and he ends up liking it. | ||
| And the people who are at the booth next to him are like, oh, look at the kid! | ||
| Come on! | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| And they're encouraging him, and he gets to enjoy it! | ||
| Yeah, he gets a little love bomb! | ||
| Right! | ||
| And so he wants to go back to the shooting range, but his dad doesn't want to go because he's like, ah, you know, I go about once a year, I've had enough. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So Niles goes, he makes friends with these guys who are there, and they end up inviting him to a gun show. | ||
| So the dad and Daphne decide to go along. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And so they go to the gun show, and Niles is just having a great time. | ||
| And he's going to get an ankle holster, and Daphne's like, you don't have a gun. | ||
| And so it's all a good time. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| Niles goes away for a minute, and the guys, the gun friends, come over, and they say something about the New World Order. | ||
| And Daphne and the dad are like, These are militia types. | ||
| These are weirdos. | ||
| And so they tell Niles, like, hey... | ||
| You don't want to hang out with these people. | ||
| They're not your sort of people. | ||
| He's like, when I make intellectual friends, you don't like my friends! | ||
| And now I make cool friends, and you don't like my friends! | ||
| And so he's like, I'm going to hang out with these guys, and there's nothing you can do about it. | ||
| And so they've invited him to a compound in Idaho. | ||
| And so he walks over to them at the gun show, and they're around a piece of paper, and he's like, oh, what's this? | ||
| He's like, oh, these are plans for the generator. | ||
| We're going to need this when the New World Order comes. | ||
| And he's like, Oh, okay. | ||
| Oh, gotcha. | ||
| Check, please. | ||
| And so he and the dad and Daphne leave. | ||
| Naturally. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| So, yeah. | ||
| It's just an episode about how sometimes there are those militia types by a show that was famous for being famous in the 90s during when all those militia types were everywhere. | ||
| This actually was in season 10, so it was a little late on that. | ||
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| Yeah, it was still recent. | ||
| Yeah, but I also think that fairly often, Frasier, one of the jokes is, They're snobbiness. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They are the butt of the joke because they judge people too quickly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oftentimes. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Frazier and Diles are both, they have to deal with, like, our snooty presumptions about people are not right. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
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And... | |
| I thought that for sure that was what this episode was going to be, but no, it is. | ||
| No, just militia types. | ||
| They want to overthrow the government, and Niles almost accidentally went to Idaho. | ||
| Boy, Niles should not go to Idaho. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That is one place that Niles should not be involved with. | ||
| Yeah, but it was a fun episode. | ||
| It is a fun episode. | ||
| Also, B-plot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Roz is getting a new job, and so she's going to stop being Frasier's producer. | ||
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Ah. | |
| Yeah, kind of a big episode, honestly. | ||
| That's an interesting B-plot for that episode. | ||
| And Frasier's making out with Felicity Huffman. | ||
| I don't know who her character is. | ||
| I'd forgotten what she is on the show. | ||
| Maybe she came in in the later seasons or something. | ||
| Yeah, but they're getting hot and heavy. | ||
| How long did Frasier run for? | ||
| Quite a while. | ||
| Wow! | ||
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Yeah, this is season 10. Jesus, people used to just watch anything. | |
| Anyway, Frasier's fun. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I don't know if it was just because I had been listening to InfoWars and I switched over to Frazier. | ||
| You were just like, I'm going to watch Frazier. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| You made all your snobby friends and then mocked your cool friends. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| I see how it is. | ||
| So, anyway, we come to the end of this and, you know, Alex... | ||
| We got some interesting view into his childhood. | ||
| Paul's book is out. | ||
| But I think the most important thing to take away from this is the control of information that Alex has in order to tell his narratives and his stories the way he wants the audience to experience them. | ||
| He doesn't give access to the full picture because if he did, he would have a harder time telling the story that he wants to tell. | ||
| And that's not the mark of somebody who's straight up. | ||
| Nope. | ||
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Nope. | |
| Because he's a liar. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That'll do it. | ||
| That's basically the point I'm trying to get across. | ||
| I mean, there's one point there. | ||
| The other point is that cult leaders are scary, man. | ||
| Cult leaders are scary. | ||
| When you are... | ||
| I can't... | ||
| Because that's the thing that I really could never get past. | ||
| You know, that moment where somebody says to you, like... | ||
| I've left my family and my friends behind. | ||
| And you have to look them in the eyes and be like, that was a great move, sir. | ||
| Well, yeah, but what's really weird about it is the... | ||
| Someone saying I've left my family and friends behind, that takes a little bit of strength to say it. | ||
| That's a different agency. | ||
| This is somebody saying that all my friends and family have left me. | ||
| Because I'm too right about stuff. | ||
| That's a deluded person who's in a cult and doesn't realize. | ||
| True, true. | ||
| And that's even scarier almost. | ||
| Yeah, they're in a... | ||
| Well, I mean, that's kind of funny. | ||
| They're in a secret cult that is hidden from the rest of society, controlled by a small group of people in a... | ||
| A nondescript studio in Austin. | ||
| Well, actually, this was in Round Rock. | ||
| He was in John Stattmiller's studio. | ||
| Ah, bastards. | ||
| Yeah, he was on the road broadcasting on this one. | ||
| I gotcha. | ||
| So your theory falls apart. | ||
| It does. | ||
| It does fall apart. | ||
| It's all done. | ||
| So, Jordan. | ||
| Yes, Dan? | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| But until then, we have a website. | ||
| We do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| We're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
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Yep. | |
| We'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| I'm Will. | ||
| Hello, Alex. | ||
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |