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#723: September 8, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan check in to see how Alex responded to the news that the Queen had passed away.  As it turns out, mostly with racism, anti-feminist chat, and laundering of Christian nationalism. 

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alex jones
13:05
d
dan friesen
40:51
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jordan holmes
20:03
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chrissie mayr
04:04
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steve quayle
00:02
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a Christian caller.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody!
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot today is that while we were recording our last episode, it was brought to my attention on Twitter that the all-star, greatest civil rights attorney of all time...
Norm Pattis dropped our name in a court hearing about Alex's bankruptcy shit.
Or about the Connecticut case.
Getting a name dropped!
Knowledge first, I believe you called us.
jordan holmes
I'm happy with that.
I appreciate that.
If that was on purpose, top marks to you.
And if it's not on purpose, we earned it.
I respect that.
dan friesen
Civil rights attorney slash pantsless racist Stand-up comedian.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, I think I would have preferred to be in his Type 5. Woke insurance agent.
I would have been like, I mean, if he had written a bit about how these two idiots in Chicago are SJWs or whatever, that would have been good.
I would have been happier with that.
dan friesen
Yeah, apparently we are a cottage industry.
jordan holmes
I've been in front of a judge in more ways than I ever thought I would be.
That is definitely the case.
dan friesen
You were technically in front.
Facing the judge in Texas.
Just from a sort of spatial perspective.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
Not how I was expecting that to go.
dan friesen
No.
Certainly thought you would be facing a charge more than just a judge.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
So yeah, that was delightful.
When I saw the tweet, Anna Merlin tweeted she was following the hearing.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And when I first saw it, I was like...
That's nuts.
But also, I thought, like, what possible fucking context could this be in?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then someone linked a clip, and I was just like, what a loser.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, you know, it's not as exciting as I would have hoped.
But also, just, come on, Norm.
unidentified
You did stand-up where you said the N-word with your pants down.
jordan holmes
I know, you really can't.
There's just nothing you can do there.
dan friesen
I love the notion that there is something disqualifying about, like, let's say the plaintiff's lawyers appearing on our show or me being an expert consultant for that case.
Right.
When you could just flash to Norm sitting next to Alex drunkenly screaming about how he wants the lawyer's head on a pike.
jordan holmes
There's that.
Yes, there is that.
unidentified
On his show.
jordan holmes
There is that.
dan friesen
Like, it seems like, you know, don't...
Pursue this line too far, Norm, lest it bite you in the back, too.
jordan holmes
Yeah, every time I hear civil rights lawyer, it's like, oh, man.
I just imagine Atticus Finch with his pants around his ankle saying the N-word in an open mic.
It's just like, you can't be a civil...
What?
dan friesen
I'm not even sure.
That didn't even feel like an open mic.
It seemed like a wedding reception or something.
Or a corporate event.
Also, that was in the sequel.
jordan holmes
That's right.
dan friesen
Yeah, fair enough.
Harper Lee didn't want to be published.
jordan holmes
Fair enough, yeah.
That was a smart choice on her part.
dan friesen
What's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is...
My bright spot...
My bright spot.
Hey, bright spots are back in style this season.
No, I found out something.
You know, in many ways, I'm still the small town boy.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
You know, shocked by the lights of the big city.
I found out you can renew your registration, your car registration, just like a fucking currency exchange.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
I didn't know that.
jordan holmes
I had no idea!
I have been going to the DMV every year for, I mean, until they did the mailing things or whatever, but I've been going to the DMV way more than I needed to.
dan friesen
That's interesting.
I guess that, um...
Currency exchanges probably have to diversify a little bit.
But it seems weird that they're allowed to do that.
jordan holmes
No, I know!
When my partner told me that, I was literally like, I don't want to participate in your underground registration ring that has run through fucking Western Union or whatever it is.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But yeah, it turns out that that's totally fine.
You can get those stickers, you slap them on your plate, you're good to go.
It took four minutes!
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it drove me insane!
dan friesen
Four minutes is also pretty good timing for a currency exchange.
I've a couple times had to pick up a Western Union at one of them, and it was not that quick.
jordan holmes
Wow, I'll tell you, that four minutes...
Was enough time for a bunch of people to fill in the line behind me who were not going to take four minutes.
I will tell you that right now.
dan friesen
Good timing, my friend.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it worked out.
dan friesen
Congratulations and big ups on the new plates.
jordan holmes
I'm learning new things, growing as a person to this day.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
We're flipping this one around quick because big news happened here on September 8th, 2022.
We lost the queen.
The Queen is out of play, it turns out.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's kind of fun.
dan friesen
Here's an out-of-context drop of Alex talking about it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And the Queen of England has made the jump into hyperspace, and it's now bye-bye time.
dan friesen
It is now bye-bye time.
I don't think anyone could put it as poetically or succinctly as it's bye-bye time.
jordan holmes
You know, before, when she became a dictator, it was big boy pants time.
dan friesen
It was not big boy pants time.
jordan holmes
No, it's bye-bye time.
dan friesen
Yeah, I would like to take everyone back to 2019, where here's Alex's take on the Queen at that point.
alex jones
And you're like, but wait a minute, the British royal family's super corrupt, there's a bunch of pedophiles in it.
Absolutely.
That's well known.
And they're not even British themselves, but they know who's winning.
They sat on the sidelines to the last minute, and now the Queen just flipped her dictator switch because the Brits did vote to get out of the Euro.
The Euro's been sabotaging things, trying to sabotage that economy, and so she just dropped the trillion-pound bomb on them, and man, this is history.
That's all I got to say, so I'm going to do my best when we come back to lay this out, and this is going to be spectacular.
These alignments are real.
The world is now in a bipolar structure.
I don't mean that psychologically.
That's what it's called.
Two fronts.
And Russia, as usual, is going to be the wild card right in the middle, and Russia, I believe, will side with the West in the final equation.
dan friesen
So yeah, this was a, the Queen had voted not to suspend Parliament, and this was Alex saying that she had gone Patriot.
unidentified
Yep, yep.
dan friesen
This lasted a day.
jordan holmes
And it's a great way to memorialize the Queen's legacy, I feel like.
dan friesen
Also, Russia is going to align with the West.
jordan holmes
That one in retrospect.
dan friesen
2019 sounded maybe like Alex was working on something, but fell apart.
jordan holmes
Ooh, a little bit rough.
A little bit rough at the end there.
dan friesen
So he had a pretty positive impression of the Queen for a day.
Hated her before that and after that day.
But, you know, you gotta try sometimes.
You gotta throw out possible narratives.
Hey, maybe this ball will start rolling and we'll get the Queen as a secret Patriot agent.
No, I understand.
jordan holmes
Like Bill Maher.
I understand, but it just seems like it's always been a step too far for me.
Any Patriot, the line should at the base be no Royals.
Like, no Royals.
That's the baseline.
dan friesen
It really seems...
Contradictory to the very idea.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the very word.
unidentified
It comes from the no royals.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
So we'll get to this.
She does not pass away until a bit into the show, so we'll get to see a little bit of what Alex was up to beforehand.
Spoiler alert, it's super racist.
And then we'll see how he deals with the queen.
jordan holmes
God bless the queen.
dan friesen
Passing away.
jordan holmes
God save the queen.
dan friesen
But before we do, Jordan, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Okay, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, I love my nugget more than anything in the universe.
But I guess my stinky hog boy too.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
I'm choosing to believe that's about pets.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is.
dan friesen
Next, Rob Do.
More like Rob don't.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Thank you!
If Celine was a D&D god, what would her domains be?
Just asking.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
What does that mean?
jordan holmes
Not entirely sure.
When I did the D&D thing, I read a lot about it, and then I was like, I cannot understand all of this.
So then I made up all the rules, if you'll recall.
dan friesen
I was really hoping that you would have a definition for that so I could answer it.
jordan holmes
Domain?
I'm going to go with the place whereabouts they hang.
And if Celine, her domain would be, I think, wisdom.
dan friesen
Sure.
Let's say that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So next, I made a dreamy-creamy in my pants this summer.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Some of these are gross.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Next, Mr. Kiley appreciates the incredibly supportive and welcoming community in the Knowledge Fight Facebook page.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
That one was not gross.
dan friesen
No.
That was wholesome and great.
Cleanse the palate.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
So we're going to start here where Alex starts, and he's pretty excited about something he did just before he got on air.
alex jones
Thanks for joining us on this live teleprompatial radio pro-human transmission.
It's Thursday, September 8, 2022.
And literally 10 minutes ago, before the show started, I ended an hour-long interview with now the most man-man in the world, one of the most censored people on the planet.
Andrew Tate.
And it was an amazing interview.
He's hosted the show.
He's been a guest many times.
He's come to Austin and visited.
I've gone out to dinner with him and his brother.
He's a really smart guy, and they're misrepresenting who he is because they're scared of male leadership and his message of not being depressed and having a destiny.
So, I'm going to air some excerpts tomorrow of the interview on the Friday show.
And then Monday...
I'm going to Dallas to be on Steven Crowder's show.
jordan holmes
Wow.
alex jones
The first hour Monday will be the Andrew Tate interview in full.
It'll go into the second hour as well, because we have 15 minutes or 14 minutes ads an hour, so we're going to try to air a...
Close to hour long interview.
It'll take more than an hour.
dan friesen
Very exciting.
Gotta promote in advance this Andrew Tate interview.
jordan holmes
Who's Andrew Tate?
dan friesen
He's a, like, I guess he was a former fighter, mixed martial arts kind of guy.
He came out like a number of years ago and was like, depression's not real.
Get over it, losers.
jordan holmes
Boy, yeah, that narrows it down.
dan friesen
Made a big splash.
And then has become something of a chauvinist icon.
Great.
Some aggressive misogyny kind of social media influencer type.
He was on TikTok.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
Just seems like a dumb fuck.
jordan holmes
Just one of those people who's in the places where I'm never not, but also there's like trillions of people.
unidentified
You're never not?
dan friesen
You're always on TikTok.
jordan holmes
No, I'm never there.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
But there's actually like billions upon millions of people who pay attention to it.
dan friesen
And they're mostly 13. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Raising them up, soldiers.
unidentified
Good call.
dan friesen
So when Alex does things like make a big deal out of interviewing Andrew Tate, it really just highlights how legitimate Alex is about his principles and how his business model isn't mostly desperately trying to attach himself to anyone he can get at.
Tate is a real piece of shit, and all you really need to know about him is that he fled the UK to go to Romania amidst allegations of him abusing women.
There, he began to operate a webcam site where he'd have women lie to men to scam them out of money, which led to his home being raided by Romanian police, quote, following a tip-off from the U.S. Embassy that a 21-year-old American woman was being held against her will.
jordan holmes
Wait, he did that in the past?
dan friesen
Yeah, fairly recently.
jordan holmes
And now he's still...
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This has now become an ongoing human trafficking investigation, which is totally one of the issues that Alex cares about very much and is super serious about.
Anyway, Tate is hot right now because he got kicked off all the social media sites and he was on Tucker's show to complain about it fairly recently as well.
jordan holmes
He was human trafficking!
I don't understand!
dan friesen
Allegedly human trafficking.
jordan holmes
I don't...
I don't understand how this is a conversation.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't either.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
On the one hand, he might have been kicked off these social media sites because he's a violent misogynist whose content breached various platforms' terms of service, but he might have also been kicked off for coordinated abuse of the platform itself.
He runs a thing called Hustlers University, which is basically a pyramid scheme where he teaches young men how to scam people about things like cryptocurrencies.
There are a bunch of allegations that through his following he engaged in coordinated efforts to manipulate algorithms to boost his content with tons of fake accounts and things like that.
jordan holmes
So he's like a stupid Moriarty?
That's what's happening?
He's like some sort of center of the dumbest screw-around ring that there's been?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Jesus fucking Christ.
dan friesen
Point is, whether it's because of hateful ideology or because of abusing the platform, anyone would have plenty of reason to kick Andrew Tate off their sight.
And at the moment, he's getting tons of attention, and his audience might be ripe for the picking now that it's harder to get Tate's content online.
So if I were Alex, I would see a prime opportunity to try and scoop up some of these disaffected youth that Andrew Tate has radicalized.
jordan holmes
The vultures are circling, trying to pick apart the...
Carcass of that audience.
dan friesen
Yeah, those are the people who are going to be willing to give this fella a platform.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Tucker and Alex coming in.
jordan holmes
No, it is like a job fair.
It's just a bunch of people coming in like, hey, do you want to make a lateral move to Infowars or Tucker or whatever you want?
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, it's like, okay, we've disrupted, essentially, the business model that Andrew Tate was operating.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
You know, he doesn't have the social media algorithms to...
game and scam people with.
And so essentially that hustle is over, but he does have a currency and that is the number of people who he has turned into rabid followers.
Yeah.
unidentified
And essentially what you're doing is trying to sell those followers to somebody.
dan friesen
Yeah!
jordan holmes
Yeah, man.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
It's fun how often the audience is the product, and they are happy about it.
alex jones
Creepy.
dan friesen
Make no mistake about it, too, though.
This isn't a new thing.
Alex has been a fan of Ander Tate for a while, and I think it's because of his troubling views.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would make sense.
dan friesen
So, Alex gets into some headlines of some stuff, and it's, like I said, fairly racist.
alex jones
And by the way, I love black people.
I love white people.
jordan holmes
Stop there.
alex jones
I love brown people.
I love people.
There's such wonderful black people.
jordan holmes
Put a period on that sentence.
alex jones
Klaus Schwab's a really evil, horrible white person.
Prince Charles is a really evil, horrible black person.
White person.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
But you've got racial attacks going on around the U.S. that used to be 10 to 1 black on white.
Now it's 20 to 1 or higher.
And every day...
A white man, a white woman, a white child is kidnapped, raped, tortured, and murdered by crazy, racist black people.
And I got a bunch of cases of it today we'll be getting to a little bit later.
And I hate covering this stuff, but the media isolates it and suppresses it.
And when a crazy white person, and they're out there, a bad white person...
Goes out there and does something evil, man, it is the top story everywhere, and every white person is guilty.
Every white person is to blame collectively.
Like if there was a mass shooting, every gun owner is to blame.
When that's horse crap, or when a Muslim runs over somebody, you know, 20 people with a car, or 100 people in the case of Nice, France, you don't blame the bus, you don't blame the truck, you blame who did it, but they try to suppress when the Islamics do that.
So, it's open season on white people by the ruling globalist white.
New World Order.
jordan holmes
Wait.
alex jones
Because they want us all killing each other.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
But I have case after case, like this crazy new shooting in Atlanta.
I don't even want to air the video of the guy running around just randomly shooting women and you name it.
And then smiling when he gets arrested and is so proud of all the people he just shot.
He'd been let out by George Soros, DA.
After a bunch of crimes he committed.
Then you have this individual in Tennessee that kidnapped the poor white lady teacher.
I don't care if she's black or white.
She's a human being.
Took her, raped her, and tortured her to death.
And because it's black on white, they're suppressing the story.
Can you imagine if a white dude kidnapped a black woman and went and raped a murderer?
It'd be on every channel everywhere and all whites would be to blame.
So that is this division they're pushing.
dan friesen
So first things first, Alex is just making up numbers when he says that the incidence of black-on-white racially motivated crimes has gone from 10 to 1 to 20 to 1. That's just him pushing the white identity fear that essentially powers his show's ideology.
We've gone over this a hundred times, so I'm not going to get too deep into it again, but what Alex is doing here is just pushing a very standard white supremacist talking point that many view as one of the most effective gateways towards radicalizing people into deeper racism.
Famously, it was lies about racial crime statistics put out by the Council of Conservative Citizens that Dylann Roof cited as being the thing that began his path toward carrying out his racist mass murder.
There was a black man who was charged with the murder of a white teacher in Memphis, that's true, but it's not clear that it was a racially motivated crime.
There was a black man who carried out a shooting spree recently, but that is also something that Alex can't prove had a racial motivation.
He doesn't care about the actual crime.
He just sees any crime where the perpetrator is black and the victim is white as happening because the victim is white.
This is shockingly consistent in Alex's ideology over the years, and it's because he's a deeply racist person.
Also, to his point of whether or not, you know, if there were white men who have kidnapped black women and how if that did happen, it would be the biggest deal ever.
I would ask him or most of the people in his audience if they know who Joshua Edwards is.
And the answer is likely no.
He was a member of the Aryan Brotherhood who kidnapped and raped a black woman in 2019, ultimately being sentenced in 2020.
I've never heard Alex bring that up.
Nope.
Been plastered all over headlines.
jordan holmes
It doesn't appear that he's particularly interested in black women being among, if not the highest percentage of victimized groups in the fucking country.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Or what about Robert David Fyke?
He was sentenced to 30 years in prison in late 2021 for kidnapping a 14-year-old black girl who he'd met online, taking her across state lines and sexually abusing her.
Or Wayne Marcel, who paid someone $2,000 to take that same child from Fike's home in Texas to Illinois, where he picked her up and took her to Connecticut explicitly for the purposes of sexually abusing her.
Here's the thing, though.
These are horrific crimes where the perpetrator was white and the victim was black, but even in the case where the guy was in the Aryan Brotherhood, you would have to work to prove that the crime he committed was motivated by race.
It's possible, and you might make that assumption, but it isn't guaranteed, even though he clearly is a racist.
And these are cases that Alex has never heard of, and fly directly in the face of the reality that he wants to portray for his audience.
If anything he said meant anything, these names...
Right.
Yep.
I mean, those are, those are like...
jordan holmes
Legit Reconstruction-era South propagandists would be like, man, you're going a little bit too hard on this.
That is fucking insane.
dan friesen
And Alex has every reason to understand the dynamic here and how these talking points have been used historically.
jordan holmes
That's just too...
We've been desensitized to it so much.
But that is literally a...
You bring that straight from the Civil War into today.
That is what that is.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex is, I mean, this is just, this is his shit.
alex jones
And the truth is, the real persecution in this country is the unborn, and it's the exploitation of migrants, and it is the murder and torture and killing of white people.
Because the media is out there, and all these movies and all these TV shows...
Saying that white people are inherently bad, white people are inherently evil, and they deserve to die.
So some sweet little school teacher gets grabbed at gunpoint in Memphis.
Yeah, we'll play her singing to her kindergarten students in a minute.
And she gets raped and murdered, and that's okay.
And the media suppresses the story.
It's disgusting.
And when they question these guys, they say, well, she's a white person.
She deserves it.
And I could play you the new Black Panther Party all day long in Houston and in Chicago and in Oakland.
I got all the clips.
Hell, I had these guys on before saying, don't mug other black people.
Go out and mug and rob white people.
Hey, how about you don't mug or rob anybody?
dan friesen
So, no one's suppressing any story.
There's heavy coverage of the case of this teacher from Memphis, Eliza Fletcher, on all major media outlets.
When Alex says that the story is being suppressed, what he means is that he's mad that the media isn't covering it as a crime committed by a black man against a white woman because she was white.
This is also a classic white supremacist talking point that racist crimes against white people are intentionally being suppressed.
Alex deploys these talking points because they're effective and because he's a racist.
Also, that clip he's talking about from the new Black Panther Party, I believe, if I recall correctly, is a clip of Khalid Muhammad, who died in 2001.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
He was really close.
dan friesen
Yeah.
All over the place.
I mean, you were saying that we're desensitized, and there is a little bit of that that's true, but even as I was listening to this, it's like, well, he's swinging.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is pretty notably overt for him today.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, and it is such, like, That is the attack because it's the only avenue for that.
You know, so many of these people have to look around and be like, why am I hearing about all these racist white people and not enough about people who are racist towards white people?
And there's an obvious answer, but you can't do that.
So instead they're like, ah, because they're suppressing it.
See, that makes way more sense than both statistics and a massive history of this country working together.
dan friesen
Right, and you want to convey the feeling that you're under attack.
By the other, or whatever.
That's what Alex wants to convey to the audience.
That feeling is what he wants to exploit and use and grow.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
And if you want to look into these feelings that you have, and maybe you don't find the information that Alex would be presenting, you should be able to find all this stuff.
Well, the reason is because it's being suppressed.
It's a workaround.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
It's very effective.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and it works for every group.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex is on this.
alex jones
But Rob, one of the producers who just so happens to be black, came in here and reminded me of a great report he did in June titled The Brainwashing of White Supremacy.
And again, folks, they're setting us all up.
We're all being targeted for lawlessness and collapse.
And by these major cities, literally these DAs that Soros puts in, letting black people specifically commit crimes.
Specifically.
I mean, I'm talking murder, you name it.
I showed you the Illinois law where you can be released for second-degree murder after one day in jail.
I know that doesn't sound real.
It's real.
I mean, the Safety Act.
So none of this seems real because it's tyranny.
dan friesen
I'm sure I don't need to explain that the Safety Act doesn't make it so black people commit crimes in Illinois, as Alex seems to be implying.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I do want to point out, however, that the idea that there are evil Jewish puppet masters who are getting minorities to attack white people is a hallmark of white supremacist propaganda.
I don't want to put too fine a point on this here, but this episode is extreme, even by Alex's standards.
The beginning is really...
Chock full of white supremacist tropes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is KKK shit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Straight up.
If this was a K...
If this was a K...
If this was a Klan meeting, this is what you would hear.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And you would hear also the N-word on top of that.
So Norm would be there.
dan friesen
Yeah, with his pants down.
jordan holmes
Yeah, like all good KKK rallies.
dan friesen
So we shift tone a little bit here.
Alex has got some news he wants to cover.
alex jones
But I wanted to hit some of the other news that's breaking and things that are going on, but the great Harrison Smith and some of his crew, some of his compadres, put together this new little piece called If I Worked at CNN, a little homage, a little farewell, A little boi viage to Brian Humpty Dumpty Stelter.
jordan holmes
I'm not mad at the crew.
unidentified
You know, it's not always easy being on the outside, being dissident, being scrutinized and judged, not having anybody tell you what to say or when to say it.
Sometimes I wonder, what if I'd chosen an easier path, a more mainstream path?
jordan holmes
If I weren't at CNN.
unidentified
I'd be a self-made man like Cooper.
The son of a Vanderbilt.
I'd feed your bullshit wrapped up in virtue.
With a steady dose of white guilt.
dan friesen
Good stuff.
alex jones
Wow.
dan friesen
Harrison could never get hired at any media outlet that's legitimate because he sucks and he does bad work.
InfoWars is literally the only place that has standards low enough to hire him, and he's only on air because David Knight and Steve Pchenik got into a fight and Alex fired David.
He has, like, laughable...
jordan holmes
Fifth string behind David Knight.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You are only on air because, like, metaphorically, the...
Six quarterbacks got injured.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Just imagining like, oh yeah, Harrison Smith, if he worked at CNN, would be hosting the prime time.
jordan holmes
It is.
dan friesen
Get the fuck out of here.
jordan holmes
It is a bit like one of the car dealership commercial people being like.
dan friesen
It's Wolf Blitzer or Harrison.
jordan holmes
It's one of the car, it's one of like the Bob Rohrman being like, man, that fucking Jon Hamm narration over those Mercedes commercials or whatever.
He's fucking sick.
They need the Rorman.
Right.
dan friesen
Rorman does good work.
jordan holmes
Rorman does good work.
dan friesen
And you know what?
It's because he chose to be a dissident, but he's not.
And that easy path.
jordan holmes
What does he think of his work?
I bet he thinks he's great at commercials.
dan friesen
This is all fun and games and it's cute, but this high school AV Project S level music video they're playing, it's nonsense.
It's so much easier to be in the mainstream media.
It's a message that's fun for them, but it's hollow.
It's meaningless.
jordan holmes
I made that video on VHS when I was 12. Yep.
dan friesen
It's a little bit maudlin.
It's a little bit...
Childish.
Also, the sculpture thing is weeks old by now, so it's a little bit dated.
Makes you guys really look like petty losers.
jordan holmes
It is a little bit like, listen, you've got maybe two days to turn that around and get it out and have it be relevant and funny.
Now it is just sad.
dan friesen
It's just sad.
You might also notice that the first stanza of that song includes a reference to CNN pushing white guilt.
This is because it was produced by Harrison Smith's team, and he's much more clearly aligned with the young white identity folks like the Fuentes community, so this is to be expected, and is continuing the theme here of pretty racist content.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we're going ham!
dan friesen
Pushing racial buttons quite a bit on this show.
So Alex has some actual news.
unidentified
It's a good thing the Queen died, otherwise we'd hear nothing but racist.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean it's...
It's harsh.
It's harsh.
So that was a misdirect on my part.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because he was going to get to the news, but he couldn't because he had to play Harrison Ford.
jordan holmes
Harrison Ford.
dan friesen
Harrison Smith's dumb art project.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But now he gets to some actual news.
alex jones
But I wanted to hit this briefly.
I don't dislike this individual who's the new monkeypox czar, like one death in the U.S., end of the world, 99% of a gay man.
I don't hate this man because he likes other men.
I hate him because he's all part of this new ruling class where you have to either be a woman or be a homosexual, pull in positions of power, and then...
jordan holmes
The president is a white dude.
alex jones
And a bunch of other really gross stuff I'm not going to say on air.
But I started investigating it last night when the story broke yesterday.
I quit investigating very quickly because I didn't want to go down that rabbit hole.
dan friesen
Yeah, he stopped investigating because there wasn't anything there.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
He is just a gay man who is the deputy monkeypox coordinator.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And there's a picture of him wearing a button-up shirt, and then underneath there's a harness.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's a harness that looks like a pentagram.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And so now he is deeply involved in Satanism.
jordan holmes
Man!
Of all the things that you might think when you're on your way to med school, at the end, you're never going to be like, well, I'm probably going to be the center of a monkeypox conspiracy theory.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I find this to be a little thin.
And also...
I don't understand Alex's conception that you have to be a woman or a homosexual to be in a position of power.
I feel like that's a talking point.
He just deploys to attack the...
The people who happen to be women or homosexuals who are in positions of power because he doesn't like that.
jordan holmes
That seems crazy.
dan friesen
He doesn't like that happening at all.
jordan holmes
So it's not like a genuine observation you're saying?
dan friesen
I think it's not.
jordan holmes
Okay, that's crazy.
So you're saying that he's looking at things and then making it up on his own?
dan friesen
I know that's not in his character.
It's foreign to us, but yes.
So here, Alex gets really gross about this dude.
jordan holmes
Sure, great.
dan friesen
Why not?
This sucks and is very disgusting.
alex jones
Because I didn't want to go down that rabbit hole.
But into Satanism, into some really destructive stuff, really hurtful things to his own body, and he's par for the course.
jordan holmes
Sorry, what?
alex jones
Dr. Dimitri Dazakalas?
The director of Joe Biden's National Monkey Pox Response Team held his first press conference Wednesday, but attention online focused on degenerate photos of him in the past.
And again, for a family audience, we're not going to show you this stuff, but he's into things like eating poop.
And here he is, why are we surprised, with a big pentagram and hailing Satan.
So what a god to follow.
Eat that poop.
So delicious.
dan friesen
What are you talking about?
I don't understand.
There is a real new thing.
This is not something that I remember Alex doing in past times.
Equating being gay with eating poop.
jordan holmes
I think we're in full regression.
He is turning...
We were joking about him being only capable of children's level thought for years.
I think he's now actually descending back into a larval state.
dan friesen
Well, I know that...
Like, particularly virulent anti-gay propaganda and hate speech in the past has involved, like, they eat poop.
jordan holmes
Yeah, any way to dehumanize.
dan friesen
When you're talking about a regression in terms of his mental state, it also is a regression to, like, more explicit bigotry.
That's true.
And, like, these talking points that are much more at home in places...
jordan holmes
No, you go back to 1998 and shit like that, and you think about what was okay to just toss about.
It's crazy.
dan friesen
Hey, it's back!
jordan holmes
Everything old is new again.
dan friesen
So at some point, Alex gets word that shit's not good with the Queen.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And he doesn't really care.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm fine with that.
alex jones
I don't know.
Man, I am just sick of the world worship.
jordan holmes
She's dead.
alex jones
Our country was founded in defiance of these people.
And in fairness to her, she's from a German-Transylvanian bloodline.
She's like 10% old British bloodline.
It's just disgusting to sit there and watch these people and people worshipping people because of their bloodline.
That is not what freedom is all about.
It's not what America is all about.
dan friesen
Now, I should tell you that Donald Trump Jr. is a great leader.
jordan holmes
I mean, oh no, it's so ridiculous.
Anyways, let's think about how many presidents and their sons have been president.
dan friesen
Well, two.
John Quincy Adams.
It's not even a son, right?
jordan holmes
No, that's true.
unidentified
And then just George Bush and George W. Wasn't there another one?
dan friesen
I don't think so.
I think the Adamses were there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Whatever.
They're all related by the German Transylvanian bloodline.
You know that.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Taft was actually, his son was Clinton.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Sure, why not?
dan friesen
Well, that would be a big stretch.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Time-wise.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, let me just throw it more towards an established aristocracy.
We can agree there's an established aristocracy in terms of, like, Kennedys and Clintons and multiple, that kind of thing.
dan friesen
Yeah, for sure.
There are sort of legacies or whatever.
But in terms of dynasty type shit, who are actually presidents.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're right.
You're right.
dan friesen
So we got Benjamin Harrison was the grandson of William Henry Harrison.
Right, right, right.
James Madison and Zachary Taylor were second cousins.
jordan holmes
Right.
Well, that's close enough for horseshoes and hand grenades, as they say.
dan friesen
FDR was the fifth cousin of Teddy Roosevelt.
jordan holmes
Just the fifth cousin?
dan friesen
I don't know if any of this is fully accurate.
I just Googled it.
This is on Fact Monster.
The Fact Monster wouldn't lead me wrong.
jordan holmes
Anything over two cousins doesn't count for me.
It just doesn't count.
dan friesen
You and Dr. Oz are that same that way.
jordan holmes
You're not actually...
Yes.
Anything over.
dan friesen
So Alex has a guest on in the second hour, and it is the guy who runs Gab, Andrew Torba.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
And he's got a book out that he's promoting.
It's a bullshit.
unidentified
Our book actually comes out tomorrow, so we've been doing this through pre-orders.
And like you said, it just shows how popular these ideas are and it shows how big our movement is.
I think one of the things that the enemy wants us to believe is that we're isolated or that we're alone or that the people that share our values and our worldview are very small in number, but that's actually the opposite is true.
We make up 80% to 90% of this country, and the elites in D.C. and in Silicon Valley and in New York City, We make up the small percentage of people that are running this country right now, and their worldview and their values are diametrically opposed to us.
And what we saw happening before we wrote this book was they were trying to subvert this term, Christian nationalism.
What does Christian nationalism mean?
Well, it means you're a Christian, and it means that you're a nationalist.
What is a nationalist?
It's someone who loves their neighbor.
It's someone who loves their country.
So, you know, being a Christian nationalist is not a bad thing.
During our research of this book, what we found is that prior to the founding of this country in 1776, there were explicitly Christian countries for the first 200 years with the early colonies.
dan friesen
Those weren't countries.
Those were colonies.
And that was before our country.
The Constitution that we...
jordan holmes
What's the point of the Constitution if you could just say that Christian nationalism is fine because it's not quite what people say it is?
dan friesen
This is this dumb thing where words don't actually mean the things they mean.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
We heard Dave Dobbenmeier, Coach Dave, was talking about being a white nationalist because he's white and a nationalist.
As opposed to understanding this as a compound noun.
Being a nationalist who is Christian is not the same thing as being a Christian nationalist.
Right.
unidentified
And Andrew Torba is very explicitly and I don't think unknowingly trying to blur I mean, yeah.
jordan holmes
And the thing that is so stupid, that is so, so, so stupid to me, is that everybody keeps saying Christian.
Everybody keeps saying Christian.
Everybody keeps saying Christian.
But if you did get a Christian nation with...
Christian ideals or whatever.
You don't know what fuckers are in power.
You don't think, you know, people think, oh, it's Christian nationalism.
You don't know if it's a Catholic Christian nationalism.
That's true.
You don't know if it's a Presbyterian Christian nationalism.
dan friesen
I think Andrew does.
jordan holmes
I think he does, too.
dan friesen
Based on his definition, I think he knows.
jordan holmes
But all of these people think that it's their own idea of Christianity.
It's true.
They share it with anyone else.
You're all insane to me.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, and I think that their particular brand of Christianity is not super mainstream.
No.
Some elements are, perhaps, but some are a little bit more fringy.
jordan holmes
All we learned is that crucifying people eventually leads to good things.
dan friesen
That is the wrong lesson.
I think it would be interesting if you did have a Christian nationalism that was based around, like, I don't know...
Giving to the poor.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, most of these people wouldn't want...
dan friesen
That would be an interesting version of it.
That's not what they would want.
jordan holmes
No, they wouldn't want a Unitarian Christian nation.
It's so silly to me how many absurd divisions there are in that concept of the block Christianity.
And yet when it comes to electoral politics, people are willing to go along with Christian as though it's a fucking word.
It's crazy.
dan friesen
It is a big subset, or a big set with a bunch of subsets.
So, anyway, they want to create a Christian nation.
That's basically it.
And that is Christian nationalism to them.
And they're trying to...
The two things that they're trying to blend together are being Christian and being nationalist, which I think most people would view as, like, alright, good for you.
And being a Christian nationalist, which I don't think most people would be okay with, because that...
Being in charge of literally everything about how the country runs.
Yeah.
unidentified
A country run by Christians, by Christian rule.
dan friesen
Under Sharia law.
Yeah.
unidentified
It's about returning to that.
It's about understanding the historical bedrock of our nation.
It is grounded in Christianity.
And it's about waking Christians up, because I think a lot of Christians are just sleepwalking through history right now, and they refuse to get engaged in public discourse.
alex jones
That's right.
They don't realize that the churches today are 501c3 and bought off.
Christianity was a religious, spiritual movement that politically took over.
And yeah, we let people practice their own religion.
We don't make them convert.
We're not Islam.
But we're Christian.
And that's what this country is.
unidentified
That's right, and we need to be Christians all the time.
dan friesen
So that's such a telling clip, and it pretty well encapsulates Alex's ideology.
He doesn't believe in America everyone is able to practice their religion or lack of religious belief freely.
He believes that Christians are right and should be in charge, and because they're so nice, they allow everyone else to practice their religions.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's what he believes.
jordan holmes
It's so nice of the correct religion to have the benevolence necessary to allow people to worship false gods and Satan, I guess.
dan friesen
This is nonsense, and it's not religious freedom or tolerance.
Having a belief system like this strongly implies that at some point, if they wanted to, the Christians could stop allowing people to practice certain religions, and they would be well within their right to do so.
Obviously, if that happened, it would be because a particular religion had just gone too far.
for weakness, or at least that's how it would be easy to sell it under this framework.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
You remember how inalienable rights are things that can be taken away from you.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I personally find it hard to believe that Alex actually believes any of this live and let live nonsense he's saying.
He's very consistent in expressing his belief that all Islam is radical and incompatible with the West.
He constantly yells about Satanists being pedophiles who drink children's blood.
He believes that atheists are secretly trying to dehumanize people from their connection with God so they'll be tricked into transhumanism.
He may believe that people in the U.S. only have religious freedom because Christianity Yep.
It's all a load of bullshit, and it's not a great sign that the first hour of the show has been essentially a white supremacist talking point fest, and now the dude who runs a Twitter clone that's swamped with bigots is on to launder the term Christian nationalism.
This is outrageous.
jordan holmes
And again, I mean, I know I just made this point, but I can't stress it enough.
If this type of Christianity is allowed to make a, quote, Christian nation, you will not be allowed to practice your type of Christianity.
If it does not share, you're just an apostate.
You're a fucking, you're an infidel.
It's a short walk.
unidentified
This is insane, yes!
dan friesen
It's a very short walk to that.
jordan holmes
If you're a Christian, the number one thing you should hope for is that there is no national religion.
Because you're fucked.
dan friesen
So we get to the point where Alex finds out that the Queen has died.
And Torba's in the mix.
Torba's in play, the Queen is out of play.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And Alex has got a riff.
alex jones
And her husband, Prince Philip, said he wanted to come back as a particularly deadly virus and be reincarnated to contribute to depopulation.
And I just hope...
That he didn't get his wish.
I hope, because I love the Queen so much.
jordan holmes
Do you think he could?
alex jones
I hope Prince Philip didn't kill the Queen.
jordan holmes
Is it possible?
alex jones
That's really what I'm hoping right now.
But would that be a turn of fate, that he was reincarnated as a particularly deadly virus?
Guys, pull the quote up.
Prince Philip on reincarnated as a deadly virus.
He told the Audubon Society that.
He told Deutsche Agentur that.
And he told Reuters that.
There's three interviews.
Where he said he wanted to come back as a virus to lower population.
I hope.
Because he said he wanted to come back and kill people.
That's his wish, not mine.
I hope that Prince Philip didn't get his wish.
dan friesen
You have nothing.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
This is so stupid.
jordan holmes
That is insane.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Also, there wasn't three interviews.
It was one children's book type thing where, like, if I were an animal that asked a bunch of celebrities this, and then it was published in a bunch, like, it was cited in some articles that Alex is claiming are a bunch of interviews.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And it wasn't about killing off humanity.
It was a much more thoughtful answer than that.
But Alex doesn't give a shit.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Anyway, apparently, maybe Prince Philip...
Came back as a virus just to selectively take out his wife.
jordan holmes
It is so weird that we can go from like, I think we're a Christian nation because Christianity is right, to Alex genuinely being concerned about reincarnation.
Listen, man, I hope this isn't how it works.
The whole selling point of your religion is that you know what happens when you die.
dan friesen
I think you're right if we're to take this to mean anything.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I think in reality Alex is spinning his wheels because he doesn't know what the fuck to do.
jordan holmes
Oh, I wish that's not the case.
unidentified
I hope.
dan friesen
So Torba's got a take.
alex jones
Back to Andrew Torba.
Andrew, do you have anything to say about the Queen?
Queen Elizabeth II making the jump into hyperspace?
unidentified
I hope she knew Jesus Christ as her Lord and Savior.
That's what I'll say.
It's unfortunate.
There's so much going on now.
But she lived a pretty long life.
And again, I just hope that she knew Jesus Christ as her Lord and Savior.
That's the most important decision that you can make in your life.
And it's a decision that I hope a lot of people are taking seriously now.
There's so much fear in our world.
There's so much uncertainty.
dan friesen
I've heard Andrew Torba on Alex's show before, and this wasn't the...
This feels like, okay, you've fully committed to this as your hustle now.
I mean, not to say that he wasn't a Christian before or anything, but it seems like this has become a bit front and center.
jordan holmes
This is creepy.
It's creepy to the point where it's like that team that goes away to Bible camp for a week and then comes back and is like, oh, I've got the power of the Holy Spirit.
dan friesen
Yeah, I do think the perspective, though, of like...
You know, the queen is dead, I hope she found God, or whatever.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
As benign as a response to the queen dying can be.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's condescending bullshit.
unidentified
A little.
jordan holmes
That's condescending bullshit.
dan friesen
Sure, but we all get used to our grandparents saying they're praying for us.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
That's true.
I hope she gave her life over to Satan and is rocking it in hell right now next to him.
Damn.
That'd be dope.
dan friesen
She's rocking out with Bowie.
jordan holmes
No, Bowie is the king of Mars, goddammit.
dan friesen
Well, that's the clone.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Alex, for someone who is above it all, has some interesting preoccupation with palace entry.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Weird how that works.
unidentified
Well, we have to push through.
We have to keep the faith, and we have to have our faith stronger now than ever before.
alex jones
No, I totally agree with you.
Of course, the big question is, will it be Prince Edward that becomes the new king?
Or will he not be bypassed, or will it go to Prince Charles?
Because, I mean, Prince Charles is Mr. Reset, New World Order, world government.
I'm predicting right now they're not going to bypass Prince Charles.
I'm making a prediction right now.
I may be wrong, but I think Prince Charles is going to be seated as the King of England.
He'll say something like, for two years while his son gets ready.
I predict Prince Charles will be seated as the King of England and will fly the dragon flag.
Against humanity.
dan friesen
No shit Prince Charles is gonna become king.
jordan holmes
Yeah, what are you talking about?
dan friesen
It's very clear the order of ascendance.
jordan holmes
I mean, and listen, if they're just gonna start changing shit about the royal family now, where you start is get rid of them entirely.
dan friesen
Well, Charles would have to abdicate.
Like, that is possible, but he would ascend to the throne immediately.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's just there's rules.
They're not going to change the rules.
That's why they still have the royal family.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Because of the rules.
unidentified
They like them.
dan friesen
One of the things that...
Is defining.
Is ceremony.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, almost to a point that is beyond reason.
dan friesen
Breach of it is the only thing.
It's the glue that holds together.
jordan holmes
It does seem to be one of the central fictions of British society.
Without the queen, it all falls apart.
dan friesen
I love him thinking that he's taken a swing there.
I think it's going to be Charles.
jordan holmes
I think it's going to be him.
dan friesen
Good for you, babe.
jordan holmes
Can you prognosticate things like that that have no election?
dan friesen
Well, I think Charles did...
jordan holmes
I think it's going to be Kamala Harris who winds up being there.
I think it's going to be...
dan friesen
Probably Hillary.
jordan holmes
I think it's going to be Hillary after...
dan friesen
I think Charles did say something not too long ago about not wanting to be king.
I think there was something along those lines, but that doesn't change the Order of Ascension, again, unless he takes himself out of it.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
But, hey, here we are.
jordan holmes
Yeah, part of the agreement with the royal family is they also don't really have that much control over what they get to do.
dan friesen
They're held captive by their own royalty.
jordan holmes
In some ways.
dan friesen
So, Andrew seems to want to talk about stuff, and Alex seems to want to, you know, just muse about the royals.
unidentified
Sure.
By the grace of God, we did it, and we're still standing.
alex jones
Well, great job to your doggedness and your great tech crew and the supporters.
That stood with you.
That's why we're still here.
That's why you're still there.
Bravo to listeners of yours.
I wonder if Jimmy Savelle's going to be attending the funeral of Queen Elizabeth II.
unidentified
Yeah, that'll be interesting to see.
dan friesen
Jimmy Savelle died in 2011.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
The Jimmy Saville that I recall?
dan friesen
Yeah, the TV host.
jordan holmes
Who was also a pedophile.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
For like 40 years and everybody kind of tacitly was like, hey, he's so good at hosting shit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know if Alex knows he's dead.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it seems like he does not.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And I don't think Andrew Torben knows who he is.
dan friesen
No, doesn't sound like that either.
jordan holmes
He's just yes-handed.
dan friesen
Be interesting to see if Savelle shows up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it will be.
It would be.
That would be an interesting thing.
dan friesen
Yep.
So dumb.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So Alex goes to break, says farewell to Torba, comes back with Ding Dong the Witch is Dead.
Sure.
But...
I gotta say, they did not cue it up right, and so there is a long portion where the munchkins are talking about confirming whether the witch is dead or not.
They could have cut off at least a minute and a half.
jordan holmes
You just went with the YouTube clip?
dan friesen
I think so.
Did not have a good start point.
So I've eliminated that.
jordan holmes
Wow, that's nice of you.
dan friesen
I also don't want to get a copyright strike from The Wizard of Oz.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're listening.
alex jones
Ding dong!
When I was talking about that, I wasn't playing ding-dong, the witch is dead, about Queen Elizabeth II.
I was talking about Hillary Clinton.
I forgot to mention this yesterday.
Hillary has officially said she's not running for president for a third time in 2024.
We put that on screen.
Now that means she's going to run, because if she tells you she's not going to run, you know she's going to run.
Except she's got incredibly bad health problems, the rest of it.
So maybe it's true.
dan friesen
What?
So she said she's not going to run, which means she is, but also maybe she's not because she has health problems, but also his entire narrative during the 2016 election was that she was on death's doorstep.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean...
dan friesen
So I don't know.
This is meaningless.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Listen, I'll tell you...
dan friesen
I'm going to predict both things here, buddy.
jordan holmes
I don't think Hillary has much of a choice as to whether or not she was going to run in 2024.
I think America decided that she was done running.
dan friesen
Probably.
Yeah.
I think...
I think it's fun, though, for Alex to be like this guy who really just knows his shit.
He can cut through the bullshit, and he'll tell you that when Hillary says she's not running, that means that she is, but also maybe she's not.
jordan holmes
Well, she could be dead!
dan friesen
Why are you talking?
jordan holmes
Why is it?
dan friesen
There's nothing happening here.
jordan holmes
Why are we talking about the 2024 election when you're supposed to be focused on the midterms?
What happened in the midterms?
Change whether or not Hillary Clinton decides to run for the...
dan friesen
You gotta keep plates spinning, man.
jordan holmes
I hate so much.
I hate it so much.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's annoying.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex has been teasing a special guest in the third hour.
I was like, Pachanek, Pachanek, Pachanek.
jordan holmes
Come on, baby.
We gotta have some queen news from the Pachanek.
dan friesen
He killed her.
I can't tell you how disappointed I was with the reveal of who the special guest was.
alex jones
We have our special guest here with us this hour.
We're going to take some calls on a whole bunch of topics from Aaron and Justin and Simon and Aaron and James and Greg and Joe and John.
That's coming up bottom of the hour, so be patient.
We're going to get to you.
But I've been on a few shows with you, senior comedy.
It's really great stuff.
Chrissy Mayer is here with us.
Twitter, Chrissy Mayer, M-A-Y-R.
She's performing tonight at the Cap City Comedy Club, which is a great place.
Up in North Austin.
dan friesen
Yeah, apparently it's a comedian who is named Chrissy Mayer.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Apparently she's hosted the War Room for Owen the last day or two.
Yeah, she seems fun.
She was at the Infowars studio and she tweeted a picture of herself sitting on Alex's desk with the caption, quote, My stripper name is Sandy Hook.
See, it's funny because Alex defamed grieving parents whose children were murdered in Sandy Hook and now Mare is willingly associating with Alex and using his platform to promote her stand-up career.
It's funny.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, that is the problem with Zoo Crew Radio not really having the effect on bringing people out to shows as much as it used to.
You know, you gotta go out to different radio stations.
People are trying, you know, people are trying Fox Business, seeing if they can get people out to Cap City Comedy Club.
Now we gotta go on Infowars for Cap City Comedy Club.
She'll be there all weekend, buddy.
dan friesen
No, just Thursday.
jordan holmes
She won't even be there all weekend.
dan friesen
Just gotta say, she seems cool.
She seems really cool.
She has a podcast called the Chrissy Mayer Podcast, and in just this year, she's had Alex Stein, that dumb troll, on twice, Owen Benjamin, Savannah Hernandez, and Brandon Strocka, who's a guest.
So that's cool, man.
One Infowars employee, one dude who snitched to the feds about his involvement in January 6th, one sexual assault troll, and one guy who's too much of a Nazi to be allowed to host the fourth hour of Alex's show.
jordan holmes
Good stuff.
dan friesen
Good, good crew.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
There weren't a ton of videos of her actual stand-up coming up in search results, but I did find a video where she pretended to be Greta Thunberg, so that's cool.
jordan holmes
Wow, I bet that killed...
dan friesen
It was hilarious.
Yeah.
It seems like there's plenty of blog posts, though, about how hard it is for her to be a stand-up comic who supported Trump.
And was against vaccine mandates and masks for audiences in comedy shows early on in the pandemic.
jordan holmes
God, we have seen so many of those people.
unidentified
Mm-mm-mm.
dan friesen
She also recorded an album, a stand-up album, called Live from January 6th, because, of course, she was there on that day when the Patriots took the Capitol.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit!
So was she friends with the...
dan friesen
Jay Johnson?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say, she had done a guest spot on Bob's Burgers recently?
dan friesen
No, although on her resume it says that she was on the Chris Gethard show, and I was like, when?
jordan holmes
Yeah, that could have been like...
dan friesen
I tried to find that, and I'm not sure when that was, but I wonder if...
jordan holmes
She probably called in whenever she was 17. Maybe.
dan friesen
Also on her IMDB page, a number of appearances on Red Bar Radio with Mike David.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
Chicago's Own.
jordan holmes
Good stuff.
Good stuff.
Wow.
I'm glad I don't have to be mean to her stand-up and I can just be mean to her as a person.
dan friesen
I would have liked to.
I would have liked to see some of this stand-up.
I was trying to play her album on iHeart and it was asking me to sign in and I couldn't sign in.
Nope.
Like, I'm not going to Spotify for this.
jordan holmes
Listen, we've been on iHeart.
We're not going to pay iHeart.
dan friesen
So, yeah, she's got some thoughts.
I mean, it's a lot of just like, hey, I agree with all the stuff you're saying.
Alex, hooray.
jordan holmes
What a great comedian.
dan friesen
And, well, I mean, there is some points where she's making stuff that's clearly, you know, being funny.
And here's a good joke.
jordan holmes
Let's go for it.
alex jones
I can ask a thousand questions and I will, but what else is on your mind?
chrissie mayr
Oh, gosh.
I mean, I think this is pretty funny.
There is a diner in Virginia, or it's a country club, that is getting flack because it had a 9-11 themed menu.
And they offered...
dan friesen
This is called tone-deaf items such as chocolate silk pentagon pie 2977 chowder first responder flatbread and they got into a lot of they got a lot of flack basically for it but I don't know I think these guys should lean in I think they should be like yeah it's controlled demolitious it's so this restaurant wanted to have a 9-11 themed menu with some pun names for things but like Some of the stuff that they were going to be serving on the anniversary of 9-11 is 2977
chowder, which is a reference to the number of people who died and first responder flatbread because the building fell on them.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's pretty fucking disrespectful.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
It's also just dumb.
jordan holmes
I've made plenty of 9-11 jokes.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
But I mean, that's...
dan friesen
Whomst among us.
jordan holmes
That's just bad.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's mean and terrible.
dan friesen
When I was in college, this was back when I smoked a lot of weed, I wanted to throw a 9-11 themed party in like 2003.
My ideas were I was going to have like a 9-layer dip and an 11-layer dip, and people would decide which was better.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And I would have twin bongs with lighters decorated to look like planes.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
But guess what, man?
As a complete idiot 19-year-old edgy pothead, even I decided that it was maybe something that sounded kind of funny in my head, and it was like a little subversive, but the act of doing it would be dumb and shitty.
jordan holmes
Imagine.
dan friesen
I guess this person who runs this restaurant didn't quite make it to that point in 2022, or just felt like the viral buzz he'd get from the backlash was worth doing it anyway.
jordan holmes
Country club people are all psychos.
dan friesen
Whatever the case, this is meaningless shit, but it's kind of what you'd expect when a comedian comes on InfoWars.
You have a- Attention grabbing headlines from like the Daily Mail or New York Daily News and then you riff on them in a way that's supposed to be about some larger point but it's really just an opportunity to make some puns you feel are pushing boundaries and make you feel dangerous and anti-establishment.
It's pretty dumb stuff.
It's exactly what you were talking about, though.
It's like the Infowars version of that Zoo Crew radio trying to get people out to the show.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is.
It is terrible.
dan friesen
Did you hear about these 9-11 menu items?
jordan holmes
Let's make even more puns about them.
Here's our segment on new things that are maybe tone-deaf.
Hey, this is the news story of the day.
What do you think about this?
dan friesen
I'll show you tone-deaf.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no shit.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
Cool.
dan friesen
Fun.
jordan holmes
Also, come on.
You're a comedian, theoretically.
Sell it!
You gotta fucking sell it!
If you're gonna say Demolicious and not be a sad loser, you gotta try and sell your ass off for that.
dan friesen
I guess.
So anyway, they do a little bit more of this run on Riffin.
alex jones
They have the Building 7 Seafood Tower.
chrissie mayr
Yeah, they should have like...
alex jones
We're not making fun of who died on that line.
We're making fun of the fact that Deep State was involved.
chrissie mayr
Yeah, we should have like an inside job kebab.
I just think that they shouldn't apologize.
And it's okay to be funny.
It's okay to laugh.
It's okay to make fun of things and tragedies.
And I get flack for this all the time.
If we're just going to make fun and make comedy out of the happy times in our life, that's going to be pretty boring.
So I hate that these guys are apologizing.
They should just lean into it.
alex jones
What do you think is going to happen in the midterm?
61 days out.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Fun.
Great transition from Alex, I gotta say.
Pretty solid stuff.
Also, Alex, they are making fun of the people who died.
The name of that chowder and the flatbread, those are specifically about people who died.
And so, I mean, I guess you probably don't want to defend that because it's more fun for you to fall back on the we're making fun of the deep state being involved even though you can't really back that up in any meaningful way when anybody pushes you on it.
Yeah, that is more fun, because it is, looking at this as it actually is, there's really no other conclusion to come to other than this person's a shithead.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, and also...
dan friesen
Maybe they should have the right to do this.
jordan holmes
I mean, listen, it's not worth, like, fucking going crazy over.
It's a dumb restaurant.
Like, don't...
Do this.
You don't have to do this.
Nobody forced you.
Nobody had a gun to your head.
dan friesen
Put yourself in the position of somebody who maybe lost family members and imagine how they would experience seeing this.
And then maybe you'll have a little bit of an idea of whether or not it's a good idea.
Again, I think you should be allowed to.
It's within your right to do this, but it's fucking shitty.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean...
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
Cool.
dan friesen
It's pretty much the end of it.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
This guy wants to apologize in order to preserve some sort of decency.
Good for him, but I don't know.
Anyway, the midterms.
jordan holmes
I can't believe we're still talking about it.
dan friesen
Chrissy has some thoughts.
alex jones
What do you think is going to happen in the midterms?
61 days out.
chrissie mayr
I think the Republicans are going to take it.
The Democrats are pretty much freaking out right now, and I think they're just trying to buckle down and hold on to whatever they can.
In case they just completely lose.
And, you know, I think they're just so scared.
But it's going to be interesting to see what happens.
Like, I know Lee, his last name is escaping me.
But he is starting, you know, his numbers against Kathy Hochul in New York are higher than I thought they would be at this point.
So that's encouraging, especially as a New Yorker.
dan friesen
If you want a testament to the kind of grassroots involvement we're looking at here, look no further than the name recognition and advocacy Chrissy is doing for some guy named Lee, who's running in New York and doing better than expected.
Chrissy doesn't seem to know his name until she's reminded later, but she's talking about Lee Zeldin, who's running against Kathy Hochul for the governorship.
Hochul became governor when Cuomo resigned in August 2021 and is now running for re-election, and put simply, this guy like good numbers.
Hochul is ahead by double digits in the polls and this seat is considered a very safe Democrat victory.
This is what you would expect given that someone who's promoting his candidacy on a national media platform doesn't even know his name.
jordan holmes
Never heard of him.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's a guy who's probably going to lose by double digits.
jordan holmes
Yep, never heard of him, but apparently he's putting the fear of Christian nationalist God into the Dems.
dan friesen
Yeah, also, I mean, the polling that has been coming out is looking pretty good for Democrats in terms of the midterms.
And I'm willing to admit that some of my sort of impressions of ways that it could go, you know, after the Roe vs.
Wade thing, I definitely had a perspective that...
It could have a negative, demotivating effect on Democratic voters.
And it turns out that that is absolutely not the case.
I'm glad to see that.
But yeah, polling does look like there's a fairly decent chance that Democrats will do better than expected.
And I don't know.
jordan holmes
Here's my pitch.
Here's my pitch.
It should be against the law to talk about midterms until 30 days before voting.
Imagine what's going to happen in the next 60 days.
dan friesen
My friend, we are months into Infowars midterm coverage.
jordan holmes
I know, and it should be against the law.
No one should even be allowed...
If an elected politician is not with their fucking heads down at a desk working, and instead they're campaigning months before the midterms?
Fuck off.
Get out of here.
dan friesen
Fuck you, man.
You just don't know about Lee.
jordan holmes
I don't know about Lee.
I really, really don't.
dan friesen
So, a lot of this interview becomes a little bit of a discussion about the evils of feminism.
jordan holmes
Sure, why not?
dan friesen
Sure.
I have some thoughts about the way that this anti-feminism or this opposition to feminism is expressed.
Because I think that there's something here that isn't...
It's not productive.
chrissie mayr
I didn't even know who Andrew Tate was until he got completely canceled.
And now I'm just, like, trying to find more and more videos of the guy and learn all I can about him.
So I think anytime somebody is canceled off any of these major platforms, it just piques more curiosity.
alex jones
I taped an hour-long interview with him this morning.
We're going to air it on Monday, and he's never been stronger.
chrissie mayr
Wow.
alex jones
And he's not buckling to the attack.
That's what's beautiful.
chrissie mayr
Yeah, because he, just like Kevin Samuels, are offering up something, a kind of advice that men and women haven't been getting ever.
And I think, you know, most people want people to be sheep.
jordan holmes
I'm sure it's brand new.
chrissie mayr
They want women to stay feminists and, you know, do all the things that don't make them attractive.
And same thing with men.
They want men to be weak, and basically they want all of humanity to not reach their full potential.
They don't want people...
alex jones
And when we hear feminists, that's anti-feminine.
chrissie mayr
Oh, yeah.
Right.
They're not supporting women to be strong in the ways that women are typically strong.
Like, they're not encouraging women to be nurturing or empathetic or compassionate or, you know, make sandwiches.
You know, the areas that we really excel in.
They just, they want women to be like that.
alex jones
I mean, women do a lot of amazing things.
The point is, we're a biological team, and all these globalists are trying to use women as their front person.
chrissie mayr
Yeah, I mean, I think women are a little easier to sign up.
I think that's...
That's why it helps to have friends.
That's what's great about being a comic.
I'm friends with a lot of guys.
We definitely need each other.
I know from experience.
I was a women's studies minor in college.
I was a full-blown feminist.
I graduated.
I was the whole, like, I'm never going to get married.
I'm never going to have kids.
I had short hair.
I was the whole...
alex jones
They were stealing your power.
chrissie mayr
They really were, and I was unhappy all the time, and I couldn't figure out why.
alex jones
Well, now you're happy.
Let's talk about feminism versus real femininity straight ahead.
dan friesen
So I'm going to choose to ignore the clear attempts at jokes in this clip, like the part about women's natural skills being like baking sandwiches.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
That's just good old-fashioned open mic level joking around.
jordan holmes
Hey, you're going to do what you do.
dan friesen
I do think that there's an interesting perspective that Chrissy is expressing here, though, and the type of anti-feminism that's coming through is a little bit troubling.
According to her telling of this, she was into feminism in college, which she seems to characterize as her having short hair and not wanting to get married or have kids.
That's fine, I guess, but I don't think that those are things that anyone who's being serious would consider central pillars of feminism.
Maybe you associate it with some people who are feminists, I guess, but it's not the core.
Chrissy also expresses that she believes that women are easier to psyop, which seems to imply that she herself was the target of this feminism psyop and that she fell for it, which led to the behavior that she's describing in college.
Thankfully, she's a comic, so she hangs out with a lot of guys who are less easy to psyop.
Through hanging out with these cool dude comics, who aren't targets of a psyop, she was able to break free of the conditioning that led her to feminism.
Honestly, it sounds like what she's describing is that she took on a feminist aesthetic in college, and when she tried to get into comedy, that aesthetic was not popular with the men there, so in order to adapt and be accepted, she adopted a new aesthetic that was more socially approved.
The way it sounds, this really doesn't mean anything about the validity or vapidness of feminism, it's really just more about how many stand-up spaces are heavily gate-kept by dudes who don't like feminists.
The worst.
Incidentally, along with these right-wing ding-dongs on our podcast, What are the things that you don't...
Seem to think about a lot that are the fruits of the work of feminists over history.
jordan holmes
I mean, but this is the quintessential version of that.
I want the popularity and notoriety that I can get from being a woman in this space.
And I definitely would rather die than live in the world that these people that I'm in the space of want to create.
Like, she absolutely does not...
The foundation of women in comedy is entirely based on, hey, we were oppressed our entire fucking lives and this is all bullshit, isn't it?
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
That's the entire foundation.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, if it weren't for, um...
Enterprising, strong feminist voices and pushing boundaries.
jordan holmes
If I Love Lucy hadn't been entirely about how...
Lucy was fucked over on the daily!
You know, that's where...
Yeah, oh my god.
Otherwise we'd have more The Dick Van Dyke Show!
dan friesen
Yeah, left to the devices of the people who aren't being psyoped in her sort of conception.
She wouldn't be headlining Cap City Comedy Club on a Thursday.
jordan holmes
She wouldn't be speaking out loud in front of a male presence.
dan friesen
I mean, I don't want to be dismissive or too shitty about it, but I just think that this perspective is not really fully cooked.
Quite frankly.
I think it's a little surface level.
So, I think that this foundation to this opposition of feminism kind of...
I just don't think there's a strong foundation here.
chrissie mayr
For me, I mean, I was very much a brainwashed feminist in college after graduation, and then part of my awakening was realizing, like, wow, I can't get this air conditioner in this window by myself.
It's so easy to be a feminist until you need something lifted.
And then I was like, you know what?
Men are not so bad after all.
Like, who's going to help me put this furniture together?
And that's just what...
The government wants to do.
They want you to be reliant on them and not another man.
And honestly, I give so much props and thanks to my fiancé, Frank Pellegrino, because, like, honestly, when he met me, I was just coming out of my, like, disgusting feminist phase, and he helps guide me and support me, and he helped me start a business.
dan friesen
To be clear, her fiancé is not Frank Pellegrino, the actor who is dead.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
dan friesen
Just to be clear.
jordan holmes
He's the heir of the Pellegrino water family.
dan friesen
I think, I just, I...
I find this to be so empty because I am aware of and know many feminists.
I don't think any would be like...
Oh no, my principles have been corrupted by asking for help with something.
These don't seem to be, these seem to be hacky jokes.
jordan holmes
It's a hack joke.
dan friesen
As opposed to a, like, anything real.
jordan holmes
It's a hack joke made by a dude comic in the 80s, and then Roseanne rose up like a fucking nightmare for these people and was like, eh!
And then I bought a fucking fan!
Because I don't need...
You take it another direction.
Otherwise, it's stupid.
It's...
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't know.
It's tough to take this too seriously.
alex jones
And it's okay for men to admire that.
I mean, they want to isolate us from each other, but it's men and women together that create that dynamism.
chrissie mayr
Yeah.
Oh, for sure.
This is why I don't understand when women get upset about being catcalled.
It's like, girl, like, enjoy these moments, okay?
They're not going to last forever, okay?
Like, when you get dusty, you're not going to get catcalled.
alex jones
Well, let's talk about that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, let's talk about Martin Lawrence on Def Jam in the 80s.
Let's really get into the whole...
Let's really get into Martin Lawrence in the 80s.
Let's really dig into that subject.
dan friesen
Come on.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
People harass you because it's a compliment.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Eventually they won't want to compliment you.
jordan holmes
I mean...
unidentified
It's just...
dan friesen
I don't know.
I mean, what do you...
On the one hand, you have someone who's a comedian.
And so you...
You would expect humor to be the way that you're communicating.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you would attempt.
dan friesen
But at the same time, this is in the context of seemingly trying to make points.
jordan holmes
It does feel like that.
dan friesen
These points are bad, they're not well constructed, and the jokes are bad.
So I don't have much to work with here.
jordan holmes
It is a combination of the terrible writing that comics do for claptor.
And then also the terrible writing that they do for jokes, eliciting neither laughs nor clapping.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex seems to, like, not be getting that Chrissy is also kind...
She's trying to be funny.
There is an attempt at humor, and in some spaces I could see this being seen as funny.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I could see some people's sense of humor being like, ha ha, women can't install an air conditioner.
jordan holmes
Poor delivery, but fine.
dan friesen
Yeah, but what are you going to do when you're sitting next to the worst scene partner in the world?
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right.
dan friesen
Alex is not a generous...
jordan holmes
Hey, hold on, I know what you're talking about.
How do you feel about the midterms, Dan?
dan friesen
Look, I was trying to have a chauvinistic, anti-feminist joke riff going, you're trying to ask me about the fucking midterms.
chrissie mayr
It's funny, I got engaged maybe a couple months ago, and people are in my comments like, oh my god, you're glowing, you look so happy, and it's like, yeah, I feel loved.
This is great.
This tops all the years of random, casual handjobs.
alex jones
Wait till you have children.
A switch is going to get flipped.
chrissie mayr
You're not talking about handjobs anymore.
alex jones
No, I'm not.
unidentified
Once you have a child, it's like next level.
chrissie mayr
I'm hoping it'll all snap back.
I'm hoping it'll just be toit again.
alex jones
Well, we're all going to die, but we live through a trouble for it.
chrissie mayr
That's true.
alex jones
I'm telling you, men and women together is a ritual.
Having a child, like when the sperm meets the egg, there's an explosion of electricity.
This is big time.
unidentified
Wow.
alex jones
This is it.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
This is why comics hang out with other comics.
alex jones
Yep.
dan friesen
Hope my pussy get tight again.
alex jones
Well, we're all gonna die.
unidentified
We're all gonna die someday.
jordan holmes
All right.
Yep.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
jordan holmes
You're right.
I'm gonna head back to that green room where I belong.
dan friesen
I think that...
jordan holmes
We're all gonna die someday.
Hey, listen.
We're all gonna die someday.
unidentified
It's an interesting juxtaposition of perspectives.
dan friesen
I think that...
Feminism is not about random handjobs.
Maybe it's about people being okay with, if that's what you want to do, go for it.
But it's not like...
I don't know if there are feminist spaces that are like, someone's like, I don't want to...
Give random handjobs.
I'm like, you can't come in.
jordan holmes
Well, I'll tell you this.
Elizabeth Cady Stanton was very against random handjobs.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
Zero random handjobs were given out in the early days of feminism.
That's just true.
That's just true.
dan friesen
Yeah, this has been educational for me.
jordan holmes
Mary Wollstonecraft wrote a pen to hating random handjobs.
Yeah, that's how it went.
dan friesen
So we have one last clip here because they take some calls and we get one caller.
It was a perspective on Andrew Tate.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And this is just not good.
unidentified
There's a reason Andrew Tate got banned.
He promotes heterosexuality, making money, and masculine strength.
And what I'm about to say is really going to make something mad.
But if this lady can talk about handjobs, I should be able to say this.
The reason Tate got banned from YouTube is because there's nothing but spears and queers there, and I don't see any horns.
chrissie mayr
Spears and queers.
That's funny.
dan friesen
Is it?
jordan holmes
It's not.
dan friesen
No.
It's also hacky.
But also, that implies that there's only gay people and cows on YouTube, and that is not true.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I don't see a lot of cows on there, for one thing.
jordan holmes
I believe he was being insulting towards women.
dan friesen
Oh, that's interesting.
I didn't even think that.
Because, I mean, only two things come from Texas.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That's what he's hearkening to.
jordan holmes
Because men aren't allowed on there, so he doesn't see any horns.
Do you see what I'm saying?
I could be mistaking that.
dan friesen
No, I mean, you could be right.
I'm not sure.
I mean, he's just trying to say that Andrew Tate was kicked off because he's not gay.
And that's not...
jordan holmes
You know, I think getting kicked off for promoting heterosexuality and making money and masculine values, I do think those are bad things to promote.
I don't think you need to promote a thing that you have no choice in the matter of.
I don't think you need to promote a thing that is literally destroying the world as we speak.
And I don't think you need to promote another thing that is literally destroying the world as we speak.
dan friesen
And the making money thing is like...
Culture is entirely, inexorably tied to that.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You don't have to promote making money.
People love making money.
jordan holmes
If I hurt myself, I better have made money already.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's the country we live in.
dan friesen
We understand time as money.
There's an expression, time is money.
jordan holmes
The very concept of the second law of thermodynamics is tied to dollars.
dan friesen
Yeah.
People who aren't privileged and rich conceive of ours as a rate that you can make.
You don't need to promote that.
Anyway, I think that this show sucked.
Not enough Queen talk, honestly.
jordan holmes
Really?
Almost no Queen talk.
I would have loved to rant.
I would have loved to rant about how people like the Queen.
dan friesen
Maybe that's coming Friday.
I don't know.
Maybe he needs to warm up for it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's possible.
dan friesen
But you have this...
This show was really a Neapolitan bar of bad shit.
You know, like, it was just a variety.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because you had this deeply, deeply racist beginning.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
This very weird interview with Andrew Torba where he's trying to whitewash Christian nationalism in the middle.
jordan holmes
Crazy.
dan friesen
And then this interview that was kind of just, I don't know, bad comedy about feminism being bad for the most part.
At the end...
And at the same time, a through line of laundering the reputation of Andrew Tate.
And I just think all of it is unspeakably pointless and bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
It is a real...
unidentified
Sucks.
jordan holmes
It's a real, like, just strikeout.
In every sense of the word, you didn't get the bat off your shoulder.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
You just watched the ball go by.
dan friesen
You struck out looking.
unidentified
Slowly.
jordan holmes
Slowly.
Very slowly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's shit.
jordan holmes
You struck out on T-Ball.
dan friesen
Pretty bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It's not good.
dan friesen
I feel a little bit dumb that we...
You know, I made the call.
jordan holmes
Always.
Always.
dan friesen
I made the call that we were going to record late because I wanted to try and get this episode out.
jordan holmes
Of course.
The Queen died.
It's huge.
It's huge.
dan friesen
She's been...
jordan holmes
The world is like, whoa.
dan friesen
She's been a monarch for...
jordan holmes
A hundred years.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Forever.
Yeah.
And then this is what we got.
It's underwhelming.
It's always fucking underwhelming.
jordan holmes
I do love...
The one Queen news that I really enjoyed reading about was people scrambling over like...
We're gonna have to change our money.
I was like, no you don't.
You totally don't.
dan friesen
You don't have to.
jordan holmes
You can just leave it there.
No one's gonna complain either.
dan friesen
You got time at the very least.
jordan holmes
Is King Charles gonna be like, where's my face on that money?
dan friesen
This money is no longer good.
jordan holmes
Also, King Charles doesn't have that much time left, so you're just throwing your money away and making different money.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I'm not gonna get used to King Charles, I don't think.
jordan holmes
You don't think so?
dan friesen
It's been Prince Charles my whole life.
It just has a ring to it.
jordan holmes
I'm fine with, you know.
dan friesen
Oh, I also don't care.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's the way to go.
That's the one I was going for, yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, it's bye-bye time.
jordan holmes
It does feel that way.
It feels like we are on our way to hyperspace.
dan friesen
We'll be back.
But until then, Jordan, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
I meant to mention this earlier, but I forgot.
I have gotten some messages and feedback from folks about the button stuff.
Some people have gotten buttons and some people are confused.
They haven't come yet.
They're worried it's lost in the mail.
It is not.
They're coming out gradually because...
You know, this is an in-house operation.
It's a mom-and-pop button shop.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
So don't be worried if yours hasn't shown up yet.
It's going to be a gradual process, maybe for the next month or two.
So, anyway.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Enjoy.
jordan holmes
Enjoy.
dan friesen
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Wilford Snibblesnabble of the Gribble Pibble.
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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