Today, Dan and Jordan check in on Alex's show to see how he responded to the news of a car bomb killing Aleksandr Dugin's daughter. He has a few thoughts, but more importantly, Elon Musk tweeted something. Dreamy Creamy Button Fundraiser
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| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan. | |
| knowledge fight. | ||
| I need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding me. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your room. | ||
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Knowledge Fight. | |
| KnowledgeFight.com I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Quick question for you, buddy. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot? | ||
| My bright spot today, Jordan, is the button stuff. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I may have underestimated the demand. | ||
| Bright as the sun, it is very bright. | ||
| The number of buttons suggests very large brightness. | ||
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A lot of requests. | |
| You know, it's hard to not just still be in the same headspace of like... | ||
| We're just doing a podcast on my desk. | ||
| Well, see, we haven't moved. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| We're still in the exact same place. | ||
| There's still nobody else working on the show. | ||
| It's still just us. | ||
| No, it isn't. | ||
| So the day-to-day of this feels kind of the same. | ||
| Well, there were 40 people listening, and we did it like this. | ||
| And now there's more, and we're still doing it like this. | ||
| So how would we know? | ||
| Yeah, and I just can't conceive of the fact that there are... | ||
| Like, a ton of people listening. | ||
| And so, in my head, it's still that same thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so, yeah, even compared to the last time we did this, it's a massive amount of people who want buttons. | ||
| Like, I don't even feel comfortable saying that there are a lot of people listening. | ||
| I feel like it makes us hubristically in trouble. | ||
| It feels weird, but I appreciate the interest in these buttons. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I should tell you, Jordan, one thing I'm noticing from the early reports, we may have exploded in Scotland. | ||
| I don't know what it is. | ||
| Finally! | ||
| But we have cracked the Scottish market. | ||
| Dan, I have been waiting to get my chance at the Fringe Festival for decades now. | ||
| This might be it. | ||
| Oh, I'm there, baby! | ||
| Yeah, that was a trend that I was noticing. | ||
| And Washington is staying strong. | ||
| A lot of interest from Washington. | ||
| Washington State or the man? | ||
| Both. | ||
| Oh, okay, good. | ||
| Also, Washington the concept. | ||
| Look. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That didn't land. | ||
| Listen, you landed it the way it landed. | ||
| Let's be happy. | ||
| So here's the situation that we have in front of us. | ||
| Too many requests. | ||
| Too many. | ||
| I cannot handle much more. | ||
| So we are closing the requests Friday, end of day Friday. | ||
| End of day Friday. | ||
| So this episode's coming out on Friday. | ||
| Today, you are listening to this, is the last day to get requests. | ||
| Let's call it 0000 Greenwich Mean Time. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I will set the clock on my Gmail account to Greenwich Mean. | ||
| Yes, I think that's the way to go. | ||
| So, get those requests in if you want to have them. | ||
| And I'm sorry to people who are listening who are behind, but there's just nothing I can do about that. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And another thing I wanted to say was that a lot of people have... | ||
| And this is something that happened last time, too, and it's very kind of people. | ||
| A lot of people were requesting to help with postage and stuff. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Particularly these Scots. | ||
| And other international wonks. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And that is very appreciated and nice. | ||
| But I like to do this as a gift to people. | ||
| And so, you know, there's no need to donate. | ||
| There's no need to give anything. | ||
| But if you do feel so inclined to... | ||
| Because I also don't want to be disrespectful to people's generosity. | ||
| Obviously not. | ||
| We have started another GoFundMe. | ||
| This one benefiting the Transgender Law Center. | ||
| It is over on GoFundMe. | ||
| Button theme to it. | ||
| Let's put a button on the dreamy, dreamy summer. | ||
| The pun was too good, my friend. | ||
| Alright, I knew it. | ||
| So we've got a link to that. | ||
| We'll put it up in the show. | ||
| Excellent. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Item number 7,000 in the case against us being good with money. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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| There we go. | ||
| So, yeah. | ||
| It would be great if you wanted to chip into that donation for a good cause. | ||
| That would be lovely. | ||
| How about you? | ||
| What's your bright spot? | ||
| That you're not making buttons? | ||
| I offered my help, sir. | ||
| True. | ||
| Now, obviously, with the knowledge that it would be rejected, I can't. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sneaky. | ||
| My bright spot is at Spock and on Twitter sent me a bound version of my book with a beautiful cover and it was bound with love and inside of it was actually... | ||
| It wasn't a dummy. | ||
| No, it was kind of surprising and amazing. | ||
| And as a writer, I feel like the only way I can kind of express how I feel would be the word... | ||
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Indescribable. | |
| I thought it was going to be through song. | ||
| No. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| But, yeah, it's incredible. | ||
| It's something I never thought I would ever see, and it's, yeah. | ||
| I told you this when that came in. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I told you that for the last couple months, I have been planning to get you a bound copy. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| Our friend Angela Lampsbury had designed a cover for it and everything. | ||
| You conspired against me. | ||
| And I kept forgetting. | ||
| And, well. | ||
| That's fucking I'll beat you to it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And they also sent some empty notebooks that are really cool for me. | ||
| So thank you from me as well. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Fantastic stuff. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. | ||
| Excellent. | ||
| Two of them. | ||
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Oh. | |
| We're going to be talking about August 21st and 22nd, 2022. | ||
| All right. | ||
| How do you do? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| These are Sunday and Monday. | ||
| And the reason that we're going to this day is because Sunday. | ||
| Evening in Russia time, which would have been during the day here, Alexander Dugan's daughter was killed in a car bombing. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| And as we know, Alex is somebody who has had Dugan on his show and has been on his show in Russia. | ||
| And so I think a lot of people are pretty curious to see how this was responded to. | ||
| Sure! | ||
| They might be underwhelmed. | ||
| Have they ever not been? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we'll get into that here, Jordan, but first... | ||
| Let's say a little hello to some new wonks. | ||
| Oh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, the Wayback Machine's faulty server. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Next, if you can pronounce Themisera, you can pronounce my name Sarah. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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Thank you very much! | |
| I'm not sure I can pronounce that. | ||
| It's where Wonder Woman's from? | ||
| Themisera. | ||
| No, wait. | ||
| What? | ||
| So it might be... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
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Yep. | |
| I can't pronounce anything. | ||
| Next, Juice Pants. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Nailed juice pants. | ||
| Yeah, I can pronounce that. | ||
| Nailed juice pants. | ||
| Next, Smorgasbunds Goodentits. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| I had a phonetic explanation that I still think I got it wrong. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| Next, Help. | ||
| I think my cat's homophobic. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| I assure you they're not. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Next! | ||
| And we have a technocrat in the mix. | ||
| So next is a technocrat. | ||
| Look, we're a little bit behind. | ||
| Hey, it's going great. | ||
| We're a little bit behind on these. | ||
| But, Carissa, happy fourth anniversary from Marcus. | ||
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There it was. | |
| No little breakies for us. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| I have risen above my enemies. | ||
| I might quit tomorrow, actually. | ||
| I'm just going to take a little break now. | ||
| A little bricky for me, and then we're going to come back, and I'm going to start the show over. | ||
| But I'm the devil! | ||
| I've got to be taken over here! | ||
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Fuck you! | |
| Fuck you! | ||
| I've got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your New World Order, and fuck the horse you rode in on, and all your shit! | ||
| Maybe today should be my last broadcast. | ||
| Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. | ||
| Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again. | ||
| That's really what I want to do. | ||
| I never want to come back here again. | ||
| I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. | ||
| I'll be better tomorrow. | ||
| Please not. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Happy anniversary. | ||
| I appreciate the anniversaries because, you know, with so many anniversary requests for a lot of people, they're like, oh, I know when it's going to come. | ||
| You know, it's going to come on the day of our anniversary. | ||
| But in this case, it's a surprise to both of you, you know? | ||
| You never know when we're going to wish you a happy anniversary. | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah, it's amazing. | ||
| You might have been expecting it to come months later. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Yeah, it's always a shock. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So here we start, and Alex does get to the news of the car bombing. | ||
| Right out of the gate. | ||
| Alexander Dugan has been on our broadcast before. | ||
| I've been on some of his shows in Russia. | ||
| And he is a Russian nationalist, not a fascist, as our corporate-controlled media has said. | ||
| And in the lead-up to this open proxy war with the Russians in Ukraine, you can pull up the news articles with Republican and Democrat senators and others. | ||
| Like Lindsey Graham, calling for the assassination of Vladimir Putin and people like Alexander Dugan. | ||
| So Alex is telling on himself a little bit in the way that this defense of Dugan begins with him saying that Dugan's been on his show and Alex has been on Dugan's broadcast in Russia. | ||
| This is a person who likes Alex, and Alex likes him, and by definition Alex doesn't like fascists, and they don't like him, so Dugan couldn't possibly be one. | ||
| That simple. | ||
| He's just a good old-fashioned nationalist. | ||
| I mean, except that... | ||
| Alex does like fascists. | ||
| Yeah, quite a bit. | ||
| In reality, Dugan is an ultra-nationalist and someone who's staunchly in favor of her return to Russian imperialism. | ||
| I don't want to quibble about whether or not his ideas would strictly be called fascistic, like in an academic setting. | ||
| It's fair enough to say that he's pretty much in the ballpark. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| When you go with warmonger and fascist, I really don't feel like there's that much of a difference at the end of the day. | ||
| And there are distinctions, but I know what you mean. | ||
| Sure, yeah. | ||
| For those who have not heard the news, on Sunday, August 21st, Dugan's daughter Dario was killed in a car bomb attack while leaving an event she'd attended that night called Tradition. | ||
| In the aftermath, Russian intelligence has blamed forces from Ukraine while Ukraine has denied all involvement. | ||
| Others have suggested that the attack was carried out by fringe groups within Russia or possibly... | ||
| Even the Russian intelligence services themselves. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Ultimately, it's very much unknown at this point who did it, and it may be something that's never really nailed down concretely. | ||
| We may never know. | ||
| Let's just back up and let's spread out and let's take a larger view here. | ||
| I'll tell you who did it. | ||
| Someone who declared war. | ||
| Someone who is up to no good. | ||
| That's what I would suggest is if you declare war. | ||
| You know who did it? | ||
| A car bomber. | ||
| I mean, well, yeah, but I mean, if Putin declares war and then bombings start happening, it's like you're at war, man. | ||
| Like, you earned it. | ||
| That's how it goes. | ||
| I feel like you don't get to be mad about it. | ||
| I can see your perspective. | ||
| I'm less interested, like, from what I was saying, I'm less interested in that position of it and more like... | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| or whatever. | ||
| What you're saying is the all's fair in love and war kind of. | ||
| I mean, I'm not saying all's fair. | ||
| I'm just saying that it takes two to tango. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So I wanted to take this opportunity, though, here to call myself out for some of the coverage of Dugan back when he was on Alex's show circa 2017. | ||
| I'll stand by my statements that it was a really big deal that that crossover was happening, but I think I probably was too credulous of the media stories that I was reading at the time that painted Dugan as being much more connected to Putin and the official government channels than he may actually be. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure how much of that is real, that he's really influential. | ||
| How much of it is bluster. | ||
| And if I were approaching the show the same way that I am now back then, I probably would have presented it a little bit differently. | ||
| I still would have presented their collaboration as troubling, though, because whether or not Dugan is closely associated with Putin, he's definitely associated with international far-right extremists. | ||
| In 2018, Lauren Southern posted an image of herself in Dugan meeting. | ||
| And this was back when Lauren was making completely fraudulent documentaries meant to demonize immigrants and was going on adventures to intercept migrant boats along with members of Generation Identity, a group with links to the guy who carried out the shooting at that mosque in Christchurch. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And also going on tour with Stefan Molyneux. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| What she refers to as the good old days. | ||
| Yeah, this wasn't her, like, meeting with Dugan and her now softer, like, Glenn Beck in a sweat. | ||
| Letter with Samantha BS rebrand. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| She's trying to pull off. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fellow anti-immigrant agitator Brittany Pettibone was along with Southern for her trip to meet Dugan. | ||
| Incidentally, Pettibone would go on to marry Generation Identity leader Martin Selner, whose home was raided after it was revealed that the Christchurch shooter had donated a disproportionately high amount to his group. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Weird, too, that a guy from New Zealand would make a large donation to a random bigot group in Austria without having any connections to them. | ||
| Yeah, it's so odd. | ||
| There are other connections, but even beyond that, the influence Dugan has had on a lot of the ascending far-right figures is something that matters, given his belief set. | ||
| As he wrote in his book Foundations of Geopolitics, it is essentially important to introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements, extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the United States. | ||
| Naturally. | ||
| This is a book that's been promoted by people like Jack Posobiec and Richard Spencer, who are probably not coincidentally figures who are working to introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity and encouraging all kinds of separatism. | ||
| Yeah, it is weird how that worked out. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway, the point is that it's still super fucked up that Alex feels this kinship with Dugan and that they've been on each other's show. | ||
| But I was, I think, in hindsight, a little bit off base with how connected I believed him to be to Putin when I talked about him before. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And he's not... | ||
| Come up necessarily in any large way, but I've been meaning to address that in some fashion. | ||
| Well, I mean, it's regularly reported of him that he's the philosophical architect of the current Russian imperialist strategy. | ||
| So you could say that, you know, oh, he's... | ||
| Well-connected in the inner circle, but that's not quite the same thing as being socially and so forth connected in that way. | ||
| And it's tough to say, really. | ||
| I've heard enough counter-report of that, and I've also heard from some listeners who are in Russia, or even just in the surrounding area, who have a very different take in terms of what his position is vis-a-vis Putin. | ||
| Well, it's not hard to think that we can... | ||
| What is the difference between some dude writing that and Putin just being like, hey, you know what's a good idea? | ||
| Fucking up America. | ||
| Like, it's not that complicated of a strategy. | ||
| It's just going in there and wrecking shit. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| You know? | ||
| It's the difference between being on the same page and someone having your ear. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| There is a difference to it. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Some of it is fundamentally, the effect of it may be the same. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| But yeah, so anyway, Alex is mad at the media coverage. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| Of this year's story. | ||
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Oh, the media. | |
| And it's because people are suggesting maybe it was a false flag. | ||
| And that's Alex's turf. | ||
| So the idea that in the Moscow suburbs, less than a day ago, his daughter, driving back in his car, he was in another vehicle, the idea that he or Putin would blow up his own daughter is preposterous. | ||
| But the London Telegraph? | ||
| The BBC, U.S. News, they're running the headlines, it's a false flag. | ||
| So, I supposedly lose 40-something million dollar rigged lawsuits for questioning events saying they can be staged or fake, or the system targeting itself, but I want to telegraph and others can say it. | ||
| Whoa, Nelly. | ||
| Just don't... | ||
| Talk about it anymore! | ||
| Why is this complicated? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's insane! | ||
| I can confirm that at least the telegraph suggested that the attack was possibly a false flag meant to incite the public into supporting further hostilities in Ukraine. | ||
| I'm not sure if that was the widespread media theory, and many folks who are actually suggesting that the attack might have been carried out by Russian actors have specifically speculated that it could have been the work of a group unaligned with Putin. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Somebody who's... | ||
| Some dissident group within Russia. | ||
| Let's take a crack at somebody that we think is a target. | ||
| There are a number of suggestions that people have had, and the argument that Alex is making where it's like a lot of people are coming out and saying that it was Dugan blowing up his own dog. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I don't know how widespread a belief that is. | ||
| It's just fundamentally where it's unfair. | ||
| Alex doesn't get to say shit right now. | ||
| Unfair. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it falls a little on deaf ears. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he isn't getting sued for suggesting that something could be a false flag or for questioning an event. | ||
| If that were possible, he would be getting sued every day. | ||
| He defamed people, which isn't the same thing. | ||
| Also, I'm not sure what defamation laws are like in Russia, but based on the U.S. standard, Dugan and his daughter are definitely public figures, so talking about the possibility that the attack could have been a false flag wouldn't rise to the level of actual malice required to be defamation against them, which is one of the reasons why Alex... | ||
| Yeah, naturally. | ||
| So... | ||
| And I wouldn't worry too much about the defamation laws in Russia. | ||
| Their laws currently are on the more, like, if we want to get you, we got you kind of side of the justice thing, you know? | ||
| Defamation may be handled differently. | ||
| It could be. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| So the Russians, Alex has been monitoring how the news reports are going there. | ||
| Naturally. | ||
| And they are not happy. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, why would they be? | ||
| And looked at the national Russian news. | ||
| They're hopping mad at Putin. | ||
| They're pissed that a suburb could be bombed and that this journalist and talk show host, his daughter, was also very prominent. | ||
| Daria. | ||
| Wild. | ||
| in Russia they add an A when the last name's to a feminine. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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The father, Dugiana, is the blown up daughter. | |
| Wild. | ||
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They're saying Alexander Dugan blew his daughter up. | |
| But no proof. | ||
| But that's okay, because they're mainstream media. | ||
| The truth is, you're allowed to question anything you want. | ||
| You can say his daughter in debt if you want. | ||
| Maybe you're wrong. | ||
| Maybe you're right. | ||
| The point is that you have a right to question. | ||
| They have a right to put this out. | ||
| They're just saying you don't have a right to question. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
| Stay with us. | ||
| Alex seems to be making this about himself a little bit. | ||
| I was going to say that the number one thing that I should have expected was that this is about Alex. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And somehow I was still... | ||
| Like so many of our listeners, I was like, I wonder what Alex's thoughts on this are. | ||
| No, I knew what they were. | ||
| They were... | ||
| Alex was right about everything. | ||
| It's strange, too, because... | ||
| Alex is the victim, yeah. | ||
| Because, really, the actual bombing seems like something Alex could use to be like... | ||
| Nationalists are under attack everywhere. | ||
| It's a sweet spot for him. | ||
| It's right there. | ||
| But instead, it's about the media coverage because he can relate it to himself. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's very... | ||
| It is sad. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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It is sad. | |
| Whenever he feels defensive, it always comes back to him. | ||
| He's got material to work with on this. | ||
| And therapy? | ||
| Well, he's definitely got that to work through. | ||
| I think that, you know, mental illness works in a certain way, and sort of behavioral patterns and issues, and once you become sort of beholden to them and they control you, things become a little less interesting. | ||
| And Alex's narcissism is definitely in control of the ship. | ||
| It is taken over. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, speaking of that narcissism... | ||
| But he was clearly the target because he's the populist of Russia. | ||
| He's the Alex Jones of Russia. | ||
| And mainstream news has said that over the years. | ||
| I'm sorry, what? | ||
| Do they? | ||
| No, Alex is describing himself once again. | ||
| The globalists want to kill me through Alexander Dugan. | ||
| Not only is he like Alexander Dugan is a target, but it is also that Alex is a target through Alexander Dugan. | ||
| And in fact, the globalists were trying to send Alex a message that anyone can be got, I believe. | ||
| I mean, why would the globalists in Alex's conception have the motive to do this? | ||
| It doesn't make sense. | ||
| Like, obviously, they don't want Russia in Ukraine. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Do they? | ||
| No. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| No. | ||
| They want Ukraine to join NATO. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| So they want even Russia out of Crimea, out of the Donbass. | ||
| They want to get rid of Putin entirely. | ||
| They want him assassinated. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, the whole thing. | ||
| And so do you think that working towards that end, do you think it's progressed by... | ||
| Bombing someone who's seen as an associate of his? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Is it something that Putin's going to be like, oh, shit's too hot now? | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| Maybe it's a dry run. | ||
| Maybe they're checking their Ocean's Eleven practice. | ||
| I don't see that. | ||
| Can we car bomb anybody? | ||
| How do we car bomb? | ||
| I think that's... | ||
| And now I'm going to throw this one out at you? | ||
| That's a tough one. | ||
| I'm going to throw this one out at you, and I feel like a lot of people are going to laugh at me, but... | ||
| I'm gonna have to go with IRA. | ||
| They have a proven track record of this type of thing. | ||
| Talking about steak knife? | ||
| I'm just saying that it's in their wheelhouse, and maybe they just got a little bit bored. | ||
| You know, the troubles haven't been as hot lately. | ||
| Well, according to Alex... | ||
| That's all the globalists. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Damn it! | ||
| So they hired IRA mercs. | ||
| Now it all makes sense. | ||
| Now it's all coming together. | ||
| I guess when your explanations are hyper-simple, they always fit. | ||
| They do. | ||
| They do. | ||
| So look, this is not a false flag, and Alex explains why. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And you could say, maybe Putin did this, because he knows Dugan's a big nationals to get Russians behind the war. | ||
| Except if you know the climate in Russia, they're angry. | ||
| The average Russian in the polls is like 90% that Putin isn't doing more in Ukraine, and that's why the population there pushed Putin into responding to the NATO proxy war that's been going on for eight, almost nine years that George Soros brags he helped orchestrate. | ||
| Isn't that actually an argument for why Putin could have done it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because then he would have a pretext to do the thing that the people want him to do. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The FSB blames it on Ukrainian actors, Ukrainian terrorists. | ||
| Well, then guess what? | ||
| Right. | ||
| And Alex is convoluted here. | ||
| This makes no sense. | ||
| I mean, this is the problem because... | ||
| Just yesterday, I mean on our last episode, we're talking about Alex saying, I pig-headedly did something precisely because other people told me not to do it. | ||
| And we're seeing an example of him just being like, I'm not going to call it a false flag because they called it a false flag. | ||
| How about that, dickwads? | ||
| And it's not fair! | ||
| And calling it a false flag would require him to say that Putin is willing to do something like that. | ||
| And then he'd have to admit that Putin has done something like that. | ||
| While he was saying that Putin wasn't going to invade Ukraine, right before Putin invaded Ukraine, Alex was saying that Russia never does false flags. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Not once. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| So he can't go back on that. | ||
| Yeah, but that's your moment. | ||
| That's your moment to really pull it out and be like, surprise, this is the first Russian false flag. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, maybe it's a false flag. | ||
| Maybe it's not. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Everybody should be able to ask questions. | ||
| But he's not. | ||
| Let me just say this briefly. | ||
| We're going to come back and talk about this more. | ||
| I don't think this is a false flag. | ||
| But the CIA had things like Operation Northwoods where CIA operatives and their families would get on a plane with one tail number. | ||
| They'd blow up another plane with the same tail number. | ||
| Those families would all just change their names and use that as a pretext to go to war with Cuba and then Russia. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Look up Operation Northwoods, ABC News, NBC News, they've all covered it. | ||
| So these things exist. | ||
| Did he stage the death of his daughter? | ||
| Is she still alive? | ||
| Did she change her name? | ||
| I'm sorry, what? | ||
| I think that's the case. | ||
| But you have a right to say that. | ||
| And you have a right to speculate. | ||
| And that's what all these lawsuits against InfoWars, everybody you're about, is silencing that discussion. | ||
| Robert Barnes is coming up to cover the waterfront. | ||
| No! | ||
| Good Lord. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Real disappointing end. | ||
| But this is evidence that that is true. | ||
| Alex is describing a true thing. | ||
| You can question this exact thing. | ||
| That is the evidence that we are experiencing is that the telegraph... | ||
| Did question this thing, so you are not being sued. | ||
| Thus, we can concretely prove that it is not for this reason that Alex is being sued. | ||
| Well, Alex is also bandying about ideas that maybe she faked her death. | ||
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There is that. | |
| And no one cares. | ||
| There is that. | ||
| No one cares. | ||
| No one cares. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If she did fake her death, that would be an interesting conspiracy. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I look forward to Alex bringing that out. | ||
| Around the midterms. | ||
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Maybe. | |
| When he needs to distract from something. | ||
| Maybe she just wanted emancipation from her dad, but she couldn't get it in Russia because he's too closely connected to Putin. | ||
| Now she's free. | ||
| That could be. | ||
| I think so. | ||
| So we have one last clip here from the 21st, from Sunday. | ||
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Okay. | |
| As Alex said, Bobby Barnes. | ||
| We're not doing Bobby Barnes media star. | ||
| He comes in and rolls solo. | ||
| Alex leaves. | ||
| Alex is just in for the first segment or two of the show. | ||
| Great. | ||
| But he explains a little bit about his bankruptcy here, and I think this is pretty interesting. | ||
| All right. | ||
| But let me talk about the lawsuits against this. | ||
| There are dozens of types of bankruptcy. | ||
| We've done Chapter 5, which is reorganization, survival for a business, so the business can continue on and, quote, pay its debts. | ||
| In the last few hearings, this is going to be coming out, they have the plaintiff's lawyers and... | ||
| Soros' lawyers, with the big law firm out of Houston, in the meetings, saying, we want it seized and shut down, we don't want the money. | ||
| And of course, federal law says the judge is supposed to keep it going, quote, for the creditors, but they don't want money from judgments, you understand? | ||
| And we knew they'd do that, and we're showing that right now. | ||
| That's why, as long as we have solvent numbers to pay the employees, keep the lights on, run the operation... | ||
| The federal judge will look at that for a year and then say, okay, over the next five years, here's what you can pay, and that's what they get, and we stay on air. | ||
| Federal court's already seen my books. | ||
| They know I haven't paid myself in a year and a half. | ||
| They know I've ejected $10 million, everything I got into this operation. | ||
| All the emergency savings. | ||
| Have they seen your real books? | ||
| And the court's eyes are getting real big right now. | ||
| In these meetings where they're like, we want them shut down. | ||
| No, we don't want money for electricity. | ||
| We want it closed. | ||
| You're like, wait, you're creditors. | ||
| Don't you want money for the plaintiffs? | ||
| The families are nothing but puppets they're using and controlling. | ||
| I'm sorry for them. | ||
| But that's what this is all about, and they will not silence us if you simply buy the products at InfowarStore.com. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So that might be a new defamation. | ||
| I mean, how do you not play that in the we-need-to-shut-them-down hearing part of like, hey, this is never going to stop. | ||
| This is just never going to stop. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
| This was yesterday. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| I'm going to call it now. | ||
| I'm going to call my shot. | ||
| Within the next week, I will have another clip for you of him breaking these rules. | ||
| I'm calling it. | ||
| I'm pointing to the left field fence, man! | ||
| Maybe by the end of this episode. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| So I don't know everything about bankruptcy law, but from everything I can tell, this is not a plan that's going to work for Alex. | ||
| For one thing, Chapter 5 is only available to businesses that have less than $7.5 million in debt, and if he's trying to bankrupt free speech systems, they owe like $50 million to Alex's dad's shell company, and the judgment in the Sandy Hook case, the first one, exceeded that amount already. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Chapter 5 is a subchapter of Chapter 11 bankruptcy, or the reorganization bankruptcy. | ||
| It seems pretty clear to me why Alex chose this route, and it's because Chapter 5 bankruptcy came Oh, that would make sense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Let's choose the one that lets us hide our lies. | ||
| Yes, because the thing is that Chapter 5, it was created because Chapter 11, normal bankruptcies, require all kinds of information and small bankruptcies. | ||
| Small businesses were what Chapter 5 was made for. | ||
| And they were in a position that usually are ill-equipped to handle the intricacies of a normal reorganization under Chapter 11. Part of their debt is that they can't afford an incredibly expensive accountant to help them actually do the stuff that they're supposed to do. | ||
| Too often, small businesses weren't able to take advantage of what they could get with a Chapter 11 reorganization, and they just end up going out of business. | ||
| So this was an attempt to provide an option for them to stay afloat. | ||
| I don't think that he... | ||
| This is going to work. | ||
| I mean, sometimes I really do think, I understand that the court system does work slow and needs to, but goddammit, for this case, I really feel like every day you should go in, you should play the judge a clip and be like, see, this option's off the table. | ||
| He said it, right? | ||
| Done. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Then tomorrow you bring in a clip, like, we should have this whole thing banged out in like a week. | ||
| Well, actually, the chapter five subsection or subchapter is designed to be faster. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So there is that. | ||
| There is that. | ||
| At least it'll go faster. | ||
| Right. | ||
| How many chapters are there is a question I guarantee Alex has asked and then asked, can we just keep using them until it's over? | ||
| How about another chapter? | ||
| So we get to the 22nd. | ||
| We get to Monday's show. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because I felt like, well, we have not really even scratched the surface of... | ||
| You know, the Dugan assassination attempt. | ||
| No, we've scratched Alex's surface. | ||
| A little, but he's got to have more to say. | ||
| You would hope. | ||
| There's big news coming today, though. | ||
| Big broadcast ahead of Owen Schroyer, 3 p.m. Central, always informative, on the war room. | ||
| All right. | ||
| When we come back, still a long time till break, but when we come back... | ||
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Wait, what? | |
| Elon Musk has put out his most important tweet yet. | ||
| Dear God. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Can't handle it. | ||
| I gotta go. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
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You know what it's like to turn on a show and hear that? | |
| I do now. | ||
| I do now. | ||
|
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What the fuck? | |
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Okay, 2022. | ||
| Let's calm it down. | ||
| It's one thing if you're pretending to be like TMZ. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And this is your lead. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Then, hey, that's what you are. | ||
| You're a clickbait? | ||
| Oh, that's 43 tweets by Elon Musk and this is today's. | ||
| Yeah, whatever. | ||
| But Alex pretends to be like, I'm the most geopolitically important person in the world. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| World leaders listen to me. | ||
| Oh, Elon Musk had a good tweet. | ||
| I mean, can you think of Edward R. Murrow? | ||
| Oh, being like, oh, the Rockefellers put out a chalk drawing on the sidewalk. | ||
| Like, what are you talking about? | ||
| Somebody said something pithy at a bar. | ||
| Alex is the Algonquin Roundtable of his time. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| So, look, there's a lot of news. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Not just the tweet. | ||
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There's a lot of news. | |
| We have the execution, assassination of... | ||
| Alexander Dugan's daughter, when they were trying to kill him, what that really signifies, massive economy news, so much on the Great Reset, and more today. | ||
| This is another broadcast you're not going to want to miss. | ||
| But separately, here is the good news. | ||
| Freedom is popular. | ||
| This book, with no advertising in the corporate media, has gone to number five. | ||
| It fluctuates between that and the top hundred. | ||
| On Amazon.com, the number one. | ||
| The book platform in the world. | ||
| It's the equivalent of the New York Times bestseller list before they got caught rigging it in the last 20 years so nobody looks at it or believes it anymore. | ||
| It's totally fake. | ||
| The Amazon chart is 100% real. | ||
| This has been in the top 10 off and on for several weeks. | ||
| And you see, this is the actual book. | ||
| It is here. | ||
| It is ready to ship, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| And I can tell you that there are a few thousand books left at Infowarsstore.com until a new order comes in. | ||
| For the time being, this will be the only signed books I do, and it's a fundraiser to keep us on air. | ||
| It's absolutely critical. | ||
| I want to thank all of you that went and got the signed fundraiser copy of the book. | ||
| It's a piece of history. | ||
| It's the Death Star plan. | ||
| The Great Reset and the War for the World is your last chance to get a signed copy at Infowarsstore.com, and it is a fundraiser we're doing, so thank you so much for your support. | ||
| The Great Reset and the War for the World is my magnum opus. | ||
| It is a masterwork. | ||
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Wild. | |
| Just absolutely. | ||
| Devastatingly lays out how evil and sick these people are. | ||
| What about Reset Wars? | ||
| Let me ask you a bigger and greater question. | ||
| All right. | ||
| In the book, how does he spell evil? | ||
| Evil. | ||
| I have two things I want to bring up about this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The first thing is that... | ||
| Man, he's making Bezos a lot of money. | ||
| He sure is. | ||
| So, I hope he's happy about that. | ||
| Hey, the Amazon charts are real at least, Dan. | ||
| Not like the lies of the New York Times. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then the second thing I was thinking about, he's not going to sign all these books. | ||
| No. | ||
| But, if he does... | ||
| He's going to be drinking while he does it. | ||
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It's going to get progressively sloppier as he goes along. | |
| We need that flowchart to really show up, yeah. | ||
| I want the last book. | ||
| It's just a black page. | ||
| I kind of want to know... | ||
| Did someone edit it? | ||
| That's what I want to know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I mean, here's what I'm talking about, right? | ||
| He didn't even write anything. | ||
| He didn't write it. | ||
| According to what he said about it. | ||
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Right. | |
| He dictated it, supposedly. | ||
| Or at least it was grabbed from his show. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Not even necessarily dictated, just people transcribed his rants. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But they cut out the rambling, right? | ||
| There's no way that it's going to go that way. | ||
| I kind of want to read it, just in case. | ||
| I'm going to read it. | ||
| It doesn't come out until the 30th. | ||
| Well, it's already rocketed to the top of the charts. | ||
| It's the best. | ||
| Kind of like how Alex's War was at the top of the charts, and then no one cared as soon as it came out. | ||
| Well, but at least that was true whenever nobody cared. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Not even the New York Times. | ||
| I'm going to guess no one's going to care when Alex's book comes out, but we will definitely cover it in great detail. | ||
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Come on. | |
| And you know what I was thinking about doing? | ||
| What? | ||
| I was thinking about doing a Great Reset special. | ||
| So what I would do is I would take Alex's book, The Great Reset, compare it to Klaus Schwab's book, The Great Reset, and Glenn Beck's book, The Great Reset. | ||
| Ah, that's trouble. | ||
| Try and see where we're at with the three of them. | ||
| Where there's overlaps, who's making up what. | ||
| Here's what I say we do. | ||
| First off, what we're going to do is we're going to cut out little passages from each book and then glue them together and then take that message and mail it to Alex so it sounds like we're holding one of his children hostage. | ||
| Ah, see? | ||
| We're holding the ecosystem hostage. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| If you don't reset, we'll come get you. | ||
| So, look, the big news. | ||
| Musk, tweet. | ||
| Biggest tweet ever. | ||
| It's big. | ||
| Most important. | ||
| I know for a fact, and I told you this a couple years ago, that Elon Musk was riding the fence and that he decided to fight the New World Order. | ||
| At least he told his top advisors that and said he was going for a pro-human future and to fight the New World Order. | ||
| Now, whether he's being legitimate or not, Christ says you judge a tree by its fruits. | ||
| Look what Elon tweeted out yesterday. | ||
| He got hundreds of thousands of retweets. | ||
| Elon Musk. | ||
| Here's the actual image. | ||
| Please let me use the CERN Large Hadron Collider. | ||
| I'm normal and can be trusted with a demonic technology unlike anything the world has ever seen. | ||
| What is a demonic technology? | ||
| Well, they admit they're trying to find the... | ||
| God particle. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| They admit they're... | ||
| Trying to create artificial black holes and strangelets that create particles so strong it sinks the center of the Earth and then creates a black hole that implodes the entire planet. | ||
| It's not a Star Trek movie. | ||
| It's reality. | ||
| So this is not an important tweet. | ||
| It's basically Musk shitposting. | ||
| Also, CERN isn't trying to create a black hole to implode the universe. | ||
| And they found confirmation of the existence of the Higgs boson, a.k.a. | ||
| the God particle, in 2013. | ||
| Decade ago. | ||
| It's old. | ||
| God Particle was a great day. | ||
| I was really excited. | ||
| I watched the live stream. | ||
| It was really, really cool. | ||
| Alex has not updated his talking points in quite a while. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| You know what else Christ said of people similar to Elon Musk? | ||
| He was like, you know, it's easier for a rich guy to go through heaven than it's awesome. | ||
| Rich people are the best. | ||
| Come on in, buddies. | ||
| I will make the head of the needle really large if he promises to have tons of white babies. | ||
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Uh-oh. | |
| He opened the Large Hadron Collider. | ||
| Jesus' words are different now. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Mandela effect. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| The Bible is entirely different. | ||
| Now that's a Mandela effect. | ||
| Is that a movie? | ||
| I hope so. | ||
| Wait, isn't that knowing? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Quite different. | ||
| So, look, CERN, dangerous. | ||
| It blew up a few years ago the last time they tried it. | ||
| Now they're doing... | ||
| I'm sorry, what? | ||
| ...these tests again. | ||
| You didn't hear? | ||
| And while they're doing the test, they're constantly doing satanic rituals above ground on the facilities. | ||
| Acreage. | ||
| So they had a helium leak in 2008. | ||
| I was gonna say, I mean, come on. | ||
| I just don't understand how we could get to blow up. | ||
| Yeah, it blew up. | ||
| You don't even be... | ||
| I can't begin to describe the news day if the Hadron Collider blew up. | ||
| It'd be wild. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| They are doing satanic rituals, though. | ||
| Alex is right on about that. | ||
| Well, sure, but that's why it doesn't blow up. | ||
| The satanic rituals keep it, you know, stable. | ||
| Otherwise, you can't shoot particles that fast. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| With great... | ||
| Ritual comes great particle. | ||
| I'm going to go with that. | ||
| They're not all winners when I say things. | ||
| Hey, listen. | ||
| We can't all hit it to the left field fence. | ||
| So there's big news. | ||
| My man Fauci. | ||
| Dr. Faustus. | ||
| He has decided to resign. | ||
| Good for him. | ||
| Alright, here it is. | ||
| Dr. Fauci has issued his resignation letter after 40 plus years. | ||
| Running different federal agencies, murdering people, blocking treatments, engaging HIV rollout. | ||
| The Wuhan lab. | ||
| This murderous, discredited monster. | ||
| This Hitler 2.0. | ||
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This Bill Gates prosthesis. | |
| What? | ||
| Has now resigned. | ||
| What does that one mean? | ||
| I'm announcing today that I have been stepping down from the positions of director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and chief of NIAID, Laboratory of Immunization, as well as the position of chief medical advisor to President Joe Biden. | ||
| I will be leaving these positions in December of this year to pursue the next chapter of my career. | ||
| It's Arnold now. | ||
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It's Arnold now. | |
| He now wants everybody to take polio shots again. | ||
| That impression was so inconsistent. | ||
| It was all over the place. | ||
| That was all over the place. | ||
| I got, name, how many did we get? | ||
| I got Kissinger in there. | ||
| But it was also like shifting mid-sentence. | ||
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Right. | |
| He was trying to find his bearings and he didn't get there. | ||
| Never found it. | ||
| That's depressing from one of the greatest voice actors of our time who was offered the role of Optimus Prime. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| But then he criticized Obama and they said no. | ||
| They couldn't let him be Star-Lord if you criticize Obama. | ||
| That's science. | ||
| Also, the CDC still recommends children get vaccinated against polio. | ||
| Forever. | ||
| There are a number of people who don't take that advice, and most likely due to low vaccination rates in some areas, we recently saw the identification of a case of polio in Rockland County, New York. | ||
| Experts believe that if they're seeing one case, there's a very high likelihood that there are more people who have caught it in the area, but maybe asymptomatic, which is a terrifying prospect. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The U.S. has a vaccination rate for polio of 93%, whereas Rockland County is at about 60%. | ||
| Anyway, this is not good and probably won't be the last we hear of this story, but let's hope for the best. | ||
| Alex is ready to handle the news of a possible resurgence of polio, though, since he'll just say that it's secretly COVID vaccine side effects being called polio, and then he'll fleece his audience selling them survival food as he watches them get sick and die. | ||
| This is kind of what his business model has largely evolved into after COVID. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And I don't even have to just speculate on that. | ||
| You know, we told you that climate was polio when you got paralysis from the poison shots and the record levels of heart attacks will be detailing next hour. | ||
| So, yep, it's just he's already ready. | ||
| I think the number one thing I applaud Fauci for. | ||
| Is retiring with dignity. | ||
| Because I'll be goddamned if I didn't quit that job with the single largest fuck you to America anybody's ever. | ||
| Nobody has earned the right to give the double bird on TV to the entire United States of America more than Fauci. | ||
| He might have a scathing book in the future. | ||
| Give up! | ||
| That's the name of Fauci's book. | ||
| Give up on hope. | ||
| So, we get to the second hour of the program, and Alex isn't there for the first break. | ||
| They just play special reports, which happens from time to time. | ||
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| You know, it's not on the radio. | ||
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Right. | |
| Who gives a shit? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Second segment starts, and I noticed that it seemed that InfoWars had switched to an instrumental jazz format. | ||
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Interesting. | |
| Interesting. | ||
| And now, the works of Antonio Carlos Chobin. | ||
| It's the most dangerous vaccine ever created by man. | ||
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It is a... | |
| Saved by the Bell Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha It's happening. | ||
| Ten... | ||
| I was as confused as I've ever been. | ||
| It goes on for a long time. | ||
| Don't! | ||
| Let's listen to all of it. | ||
| I don't know what was going on there. | ||
| There's some sort of a technical difficulty. | ||
| But this is the feed that goes out on the radio. | ||
| Yeah, let's all go to the lobby. | ||
| He started playing, I believe. | ||
| Elevator music on Infowars. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| So, I don't know what the fuck was happening, but Steve Kirsch is on. | ||
| Alex's anti-vax substack buddy. | ||
| Is it not addressed? | ||
| What? | ||
| No. | ||
| What just happened? | ||
| No, I don't think Alex notices. | ||
| No, but there are further tech difficulties. | ||
| Here we are. | ||
| Steve Kirst joins us for the balance of the hour. | ||
| But we do have numbers. | ||
| We have insurance company numbers. | ||
| We have government numbers. | ||
| We have them all. | ||
| He has them all in his substack. | ||
| He's going to lay out the facts that now even the CDC is saying, okay, the shot doesn't help you, doesn't protect you. | ||
| All over the world, from Australia to Germany to the UK to Canada to the US, they're showing that people that are affected are way more likely to actually get sick. | ||
| Well, it's just like I said on Fox News. | ||
| And, you know, Brian, who was the host, was caught off guard. | ||
| And so he said, well, we can't verify those numbers. | ||
| Well, he was actually telling people the truth. | ||
| Because Fox News has contractual commitments that don't allow them to speak poorly about the vaccine. | ||
| So they can't say anything. | ||
| Anti-vax on Fox News. | ||
| That skipping that you heard is on Alex's end. | ||
| That was not our recording. | ||
| So this is a fun semantics game that Steve is playing. | ||
| The Fox News host, Brian Kilmeade, was pointing out that Steve's statistics are completely dubious and he can't prove that they're accurate, and expresses that by saying, we can't confirm that. | ||
| Steve naturally doesn't want to accept that he, in fact, can't confirm any of the bullshit he spreads, so he's using the wording of this comment to create a broader conspiracy. | ||
| Of course, you can't confirm this, Brian Kilmeade. | ||
| You're on the... | ||
| See, this is why we need to relax certain language requirements for TV hosts. | ||
| In this situation, you can't say we can't confirm that. | ||
| What you have to say is... | ||
| Well, that's not a kill needs best interest. | ||
| No, and I understand that, but I feel like it should be required. | ||
| So I'm not sure what statistics Steve is talking about here, because his sub-stack is full of posts claiming various bombshell things about COVID vaccines, and all of them apparently rely on very legitimate data. | ||
| I decided to consult one recent post with the headline, quote, Do you know how many people have been killed worldwide by their governments from the COVID shots? | ||
| 16,000. | ||
| It's around 12 million. | ||
| That's 40 times the number of Americans who were killed in World War II. | ||
| It's more than double the number killed by COVID. | ||
| That seemed intriguing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How was this number reached, you're probably asking yourself. | ||
| That's my first question. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It seems like an even number, first off. | ||
| Here's how Steve got there. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Quote, Margaret Ann Alice asked if anyone could estimate the global death toll from the COVID shots. | ||
| In my opinion, a reasonable estimate is to divide the number of doses by 1,000. | ||
| If you do that for 600 million doses delivered in the United States, you get 600,000 deaths, which is right in the ballpark. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| He just said it. | ||
| That's not data. | ||
| That was his... | ||
| Basis for that number is... | ||
| And then you extrapolate that out to the world. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So I said that, and that means it's true. | ||
| Yeah, this is Steve expressing an opinion and then making a guess based on entirely nothing. | ||
| This article is legitimately trash. | ||
| Here's Steve synthesizing his point, which again is just about him guessing things based on nothing. | ||
| Quote, we're killing an awful lot of people, but world leaders are looking the other way and saying nothing while all of us watch the high number of death reports in the media of people who... | ||
| quote, unexpectedly, and hear no explanation from the medical community or the CDC. | ||
| We're supposed to trust that they have things well in hand, even though they won't appear on camera in front of anyone who doesn't have scripted pre-approved questions. | ||
| The vaccine was never mentioned in any of these unexplained death reports, yet people all over the world have noticed that these unexpected deaths are only happening to the vaccinated. | ||
| Hmm, I wonder why. | ||
| And I would say, what unexpected deaths are you talking about? | ||
| There aren't any specifics offered in the article, so I don't know if I agree that we even are seeing a huge number of unexpected deaths being reported in the media. | ||
| You know what bums me out? | ||
| Because this is really suspicious. | ||
| Not one of these medical professionals, can we even call them that, is the first question. | ||
| But not one of them will go on live TV in a pit filled with hungry hyenas. | ||
| Not one of them. | ||
| Now, why not? | ||
| Dan, why not? | ||
| And what are they afraid of, Dan? | ||
| You're right. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| I'm taken aback by your logic. | ||
| You can't deny it. | ||
| Makes total sense. | ||
| It does. | ||
| There are occasionally, like, celebrities who die with no immediate cause of death determined, and then these anti-vax idiots rush in to pretend it was a vaccine death, but typically, in all of those cases, a death cause is determined, but it's after people like Steve stop caring about the story. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just use it for the immediate dopamine rush of, like, hey, get this, this person who you love was killed by Fauci. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| It's hard to wait a couple of days to say that, though. | ||
| After the... | ||
| People have already figured out the actual reason. | ||
| And let me be totally clear about this. | ||
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What? | |
| Steve Kirsch is a lunatic. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This article also includes this passage. | ||
| We're approaching the 6 million Jews killed in the Holocaust over a period of 12 years. | ||
| But we're killing people worldwide at a rate of at least 6 times faster than the Germans did. | ||
| We're killing nearly close to 10,000 people every day. | ||
| The latest rate was roughly 8.46 million doses a day. | ||
| Interestingly, this is not self-limiting, because 385,000 babies are born every day. | ||
| So the killing can go on indefinitely, even if the birth rate drops by 90%. | ||
| In case you were wondering, I just thought I'd point that out. | ||
| This is complete drivel, and it's a bit offensive to boot. | ||
| I feel like we need to really hammer home that this obsession with comparing things to the Holocaust is Holocaust minimization, which is a subset of Holocaust denial. | ||
| That's the part I was saying was a bit offensive. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| There's a reason that they are so focused on comparing things to the Holocaust to make it feel like the Holocaust wasn't that big a deal after all, now was it? | ||
| Compared to vaccinations. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, for one thing about Steve's logic here, 10,000 people aren't being killed by the vaccine every day. | ||
| That's just shit talk. | ||
| But... | ||
| Beyond that, this supposed killing could not go on indefinitely, even if the birth rate dropped 90%, because the massive societal problems that would accompany that drop in birth rates would render 10,000 deaths a day a side issue. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Everything would be over. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think, I mean, just the devastation of everything, daily, crazy. | ||
| Speaking of statistics, on August 20th, Steve posted a blog entry where he was begging people who work at hospitals to provide him with internal data about their numbers of deaths and ICU admissions based on vaccination status. | ||
| This is probably illegal for them to divulge, but also whatever results he gets from this are completely meaningless. | ||
| He's gathering data through the equivalent of a Google survey form, Right, right, right. | ||
| But also... | ||
| He's sending out a Google survey form that says, please commit a crime, yes or no. | ||
| That is what he's doing. | ||
| But we're all pretending, so it doesn't really matter. | ||
| So it's not really a crime, I understand. | ||
| But it's a pretend crime. | ||
| This data collection form is apparently something he's been using for a while, but he's just now updated it so you can enter in hospital-level data. | ||
| Before, you can enter information about your family and friends or your household and how many people were hurt or killed by vaccines in that subgroup. | ||
| Sure, that's nice of him. | ||
| It's probably a fair assumption that he's been treating the responses to this as actual data as opposed to him targeting a very strongly self-selected anti-vax community as potential responders to his survey and then having literally zero way to confirm any of the numbers people enter into the survey. | ||
| That's what he's doing. | ||
| It's not data. | ||
| It's like VAERS but in Arkham Asylum. | ||
| Yeah, what would he be? | ||
| What would his villain name be? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| The Substacker. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| The Blogger. | ||
| No, that's terrible. | ||
| So all of the information that he's putting out means exactly nothing. | ||
| But it's the kind of thing that can be used to create an impression that it's something more legitimate and more scholarly than just apocryphal anecdotes that the Antivex community has. | ||
| That's what they usually rely on, these anecdotal stories. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And this is a way that he can sort of mold those anecdotes into numbers, and it gives the appearance of it meaning something more than just... | ||
| A tweet. | ||
| Well, off the top of my head, I would say that the way to treat these fairly would be to take the total number of submissions and divide it by a thousand, and then that's the number that are accurate. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Now, bottom line, this guy sucks. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Bring back Dr. Marbles. | ||
| I really appreciated him over this pretty... | ||
| At least that guy was unhinged in a fun way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Calling for war. | ||
| Low bar. | ||
| Low bar. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Steve sucks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But yeah, he's trying to explain to Alex here that the media is bought off. | ||
| And then something very... | ||
| Statistic Steve. | ||
| Something really tragic happens. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Explain to people that a whole bunch of media outlets got bought off with contracts with Pfizer two years ago. | ||
| Yeah, well, we know that the White House has spent a billion dollars on influencing media and giving money to media to promote these vaccines. | ||
| And the drug companies, we don't know what the contracts say, but it's pretty clear that there was no interest at... | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| Hello? | ||
| Have we lost the call? | ||
| Sir? | ||
| Have we lost the show? | ||
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Hey Doodly doodly doodly You got your wish. | |
| The jazz comes back. | ||
| The jazz comes back, baby. | ||
| You can't get rid of jazz. | ||
| I don't know what was going on on this episode, but it was weird. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| This seems like a great time for Alex to bring up the time that... | ||
| Trump got that donation from Pfizer, right? | ||
| Because we learned about that on our last episode. | ||
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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| So, I mean, if you're talking about Pfizer conspiracies now, it seems like Trump being involved with that, that you admitted to... | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| You just need that... | ||
| Relevant information. | ||
| Not right now. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| This is a different thing. | ||
| I do appreciate the lack of continuity. | ||
| This clip is just dumb, and I'll see if you can figure out why I cut this. | ||
| Because there's not enough jazz. | ||
| No, this is really... | ||
| Keep your ears open. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So even their own leftists now are waking up, and I just look at Twitter, Facebook, everywhere. | ||
| I'm not even looking. | ||
| It's just everywhere. | ||
| People are saying, I'm paralyzed. | ||
| My mom's dead. | ||
| My kid's paralyzed. | ||
| I died. | ||
| My husband died. | ||
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Why did I pull that clip? | |
| I don't know. | ||
| He's looking on Twitter and Facebook and everywhere. | ||
| Someone tweeted, I died. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I know he's just talking too fast, but it's funny. | ||
| There is something about that. | ||
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Everybody's out there tweeting, I'm paralyzed, my mom's sick, I died. | |
| Unless your spirit can tweet. | ||
| I mean, wasn't that what A Christmas Carol was really all about? | ||
| If you're in the shadow realm, are you shadow banned? | ||
| No, I think if you're in the shadow realm, you actually get past the shadow ban because you can move through it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The shadow ban is like a door in the shadow realm, like a regular human couldn't pass through the shadow door. | ||
| So you're saying that all the most popular Twitter accounts are ghosts? | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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So... | |
| What is drill but a ghost? | ||
| Steve has a story to tell, my friend, and this is dumb. | ||
| And we see people in plain sight. | ||
| I mean, look, I saw an Arab ambassador. | ||
| He's speaking at a podium, and he just drops dead. | ||
| But we've seen that over and over and over again after the vaccines rolled out. | ||
| So the way Steve is telling this story, it's very clear that the only thing he knows here is that he's seen a video on social media. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He has no idea who this person was or the circumstances depicted in the video at all. | ||
| And the big tell is that he's calling him an Arab ambassador. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This was the narrative that took hold as the video traveled in anti-vax circles online, but it's not correct. | ||
| It was actually a Saudi businessman named Mohammed bin Nassar bin Wazan al-Qahtani who was in Egypt for a conference. | ||
| He was giving a speech and he collapsed, allegedly going on to die in another room as people attempted to provide aid. | ||
| The cause of death here is not determined yet, and there's no evidence that al-Qahtani was or was not vaccinated. | ||
| All of this is just forced conjecture on Steve's part because it's more profitable for him to make this suspicious when it very well could have just been a There's no reason to automatically be like, I can't get over the idea that we've seen this over and over. | ||
| I have not seen a ton of videos of people collapsing at podiums recently, or in fact in my entire life. | ||
| There haven't been that many. | ||
| How many can you remember of just people collapsing at podiums in the middle of a speech? | ||
| Well, I saw this one that Steve posted. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Well, that was the one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I'm even going to count George Bush having to duck from her shoe. | ||
| I'll count that. | ||
| I think I saw a cartoon once of somebody who was in a debate club. | ||
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Sure. | |
| He was in a debate club. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And he was rattling off the points, and then he ran out of air and just collapsed on the podium. | ||
| Oh, was that Hey Arnold? | ||
| I think it might have been. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's something in that sort of milieu. | ||
| Ah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's in the same part of my brain as something that might have been on Hey Arnold. | ||
| I'm going to go with ah, real monsters. | ||
| It was not ah, real monsters. | ||
| It was ah, real monsters. | ||
| It was not. | ||
| It wasn't Rocco's Modern Life. | ||
| Ooh, that's a good one, though. | ||
| It wasn't Syphil and Ollie. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| It wasn't a cartoon. | ||
| It wasn't Ren and Stimpy. | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| You know what I need to do? | ||
| What's that? | ||
| I need to go back to some of that stuff and see if it's any good. | ||
| Or maybe I shouldn't. | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You stop smoking weed. | ||
| You shouldn't go back there. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| Yeah, you don't want to know what it's like without the assistance. | ||
| So, Steve has these strategies in order to create his content. | ||
| You have, obviously, this weird Google form that he wants people to fill out with. | ||
| Information they very well could be making up. | ||
| Google crime form. | ||
| But then, you know, the old standby is obviously VAERS. | ||
| He misuses VAERS data in order to make points. | ||
| And, man, this is nuts. | ||
| It's pretty obvious what is going on. | ||
| There is no way to explain the VAERS data, which is the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System. | ||
| That was my next question. | ||
| You're the expert on this. | ||
| I'm going to interrupt you, but narrowing into the data, just give us the main data points you get that anybody can check. | ||
| Yeah, well, anybody can go to openvaers.com, and there's something called the Redbox Summaries. | ||
| And if you go to that page at openvares.com, go to the red box summaries, and you flip the slider to show U.S. only, because it shows you, by default, it shows you the worldwide numbers. | ||
| You flip the switch to go U.S. only, you'll see around 14,000 deaths. | ||
| Now, the problem there is that the 14,000 are under-reported deaths. | ||
| So, because people don't report to the VAERS system. | ||
| And so it turns out that for every death reported to VAERS, they're really about 20... | ||
| Sorry, I'm getting into the... | ||
| You're making it up! | ||
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Why are you struggling with this? | |
| Yeah, all right, now I escaped the death blow here. | ||
| But yeah, if you look at the VAERS numbers, you'll see 14,000. | ||
| You need to multiply that by 41. Why? | ||
| Oh, okay, sure. | ||
| Great. | ||
| See, there's under-reporting, and this makes some sense for some side effects, like maybe a headache. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because not everybody's going to report a headache. | ||
| Why would you report a headache? | ||
| Nausea. | ||
| Could be anything. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Death is a little different. | ||
| It's hard not to report it. | ||
| Yeah, because there's other people who are doing the reporting. | ||
| You can't self-report death. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Except for that guy who tweeted. | ||
| That was... | ||
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Wow. | |
| I mean, all-time tweet, though. | ||
| That was maybe his most important tweet ever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Certainly better than Musk's dumb shitpost. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, so there's, I don't know, this is ludicrous, and there's no defense of multiplying it by 41. And the actual website that he's using, the open fairs, it says on the bottom, these are not causal. | ||
| This is not causal data, that conclusion cannot be made. | ||
| There's a qualifier on the page. | ||
| Oh, fuck yourself, Steve. | ||
| Doesn't it add at the bottom, this is not causal, but you should multiply it by 41? | ||
| Why 41? | ||
| Get a Google form. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Oh, no, of course. | ||
| He's a fan of... | ||
| Oh, shit, now I can't pull a song title. | ||
| Sum 41. Oh, shit. | ||
| That's what it is, yeah. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Scrolling to the party like my name is El Nino. | ||
| See, there we go. | ||
| When I'm hanging out drinking in the back of an El Camino. | ||
| Name another Sum 41 song. | ||
| In Too Deep. | ||
| Wow. | ||
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Because I'm in too deep and I'm trying to keep... | |
| Is that really what they sounded like? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Weren't they supposed to be like punk or something? | ||
| They were. | ||
| They were pop punk. | ||
| Oh, those two things don't exist together. | ||
| Doesn't everybody know that, that those two things can't be back in... | ||
| It worked for a while. | ||
| There was a guy named Stevo in that band, and I always thought that was weird, because he definitely was around after Jackass. | ||
| So he just took the name Stevo. | ||
| That's not fair. | ||
| You should have to have Stevo in your band if he names himself Stevo. | ||
| Or you've got to staple your balls to your leg. | ||
| Well, there's two options. | ||
| Then you're grandfathered in on the name. | ||
| Yeah, but you have to put sticks in there. | ||
| You're a drummer, goddammit. | ||
| Have some respect. | ||
| Look, there's another Steve who's not a Steve-O. | ||
| Steve Kirsch. | ||
| Steve-O Kirsch. | ||
| Now that's a different story. | ||
| He has a... | ||
| This is so stupid. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, Alex, do you know how much Tony Fauci is making every time a Moderna shot is delivered into someone's arm? | ||
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Tell me! | |
| Tell me he gets a taste! | ||
| I know it's a lot. | ||
| It's a lot. | ||
| You see, that's the problem. | ||
| So we have somebody who's directing this entire vaccination program who has a huge conflict of interest. | ||
| You know, that is not something that should be allowed. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| We should know exactly how much he's making on these vaccines. | ||
| And we're not allowed to know that. | ||
| How much is Fauci making every time someone gets a Moderna shot? | ||
| Here's the problem. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Would he have negotiated a specific 2 a.m. cut of each shot? | ||
| It's strange. | ||
| When? | ||
| What contract would he have been a privy to? | ||
| Plus, I thought Steve was like a stats and facts guy. | ||
| This is meaningless bullshit. | ||
| Why don't we know? | ||
| Why don't we know how much of a taste Dr. Fauci is getting apparently by himself? | ||
| Not like the CDC is getting a cut. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Just Fauci. | ||
| This is just rampant speculation and insinuation. | ||
| And if Steve was... | ||
| Also, this conspiracy is internally stupid, because here's where things break down. | ||
| So Fauci is pushing these shots to get rich, which he's willing to kill off 12 million people in order to achieve, apparently. | ||
| 10,000 a day. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's so money hungry, he just doesn't give a fuck. | ||
| Then why was the Pfizer vaccine the first one that was approved? | ||
| Wouldn't he have stood to make way more money if Moderna was the first one out of the gate? | ||
| Nah, that's too much scrutiny. | ||
| Too many eyes on you. | ||
| You negotiate with the second tier. | ||
| You don't want to get that rich. | ||
| If Fauci were really able to orchestrate this entire pandemic and the vaccine rollout and a big part of his motivation was money... | ||
| Why would over 130 million less doses of Moderna have been administered than Pfizer? | ||
| I'm sure the answer to this is that Fauci gets a taste of both shots. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know, it doesn't really matter. | ||
| But this is dumb. | ||
| Well, and you gotta figure that it's two shots for each. | ||
| Vaccine, so he doubles that up. | ||
| Of course. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| That's the way you get it. | ||
| And he gets an even higher cut on the boosters. | ||
| Yeah, why not? | ||
| The margins. | ||
| Yes, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's like once you've made back your advance. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| I gotcha. | ||
| By all means, I would love for Steve to lay out whatever stock holdings he believes Fauci has or explain this nonsense, but he's not going to do any of that because he's just talking shit. | ||
| It's easy to talk shit when you just make suggestions and insinuate guilt on people for fun. | ||
| Steve spends a fair amount of this interview watching Wondering why people won't talk to him or take him seriously, and this is a big part of why. | ||
| This shit flies on your dumb substack or Infowars, but if you try to go to the real world with it, where words mean things, it's gonna be a problem. | ||
| And that's even, like, even Brian Kilmeade wouldn't let you play this fucking stupid game. | ||
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No, I know. | |
| You can't go, like, no one, OAN wouldn't allow you to be like, hey, how much does Fauci get per vaccine? | ||
| Actually, they might. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, that's crazy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's too crazy. | ||
| You could go to OAN. | ||
| You should go to Infowars. | ||
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Maybe. | |
| You could go to Lindell's shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that might be about where you peek. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Oh, wait. | |
| I think he was on Brett Weinstein's podcast. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, we've all reached the pinnacle of our careers, I think. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So Alex almost went... | ||
| Well, Steve's gone now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex interviews another fucking... | ||
| COVID denier guy. | ||
| And I'm just like, I can't do this. | ||
| I can't do two. | ||
| We can't still be denying COVID. | ||
| Yeah, you can. | ||
| No! | ||
| I think it's because Alex is trying to ramp up with the Trump stuff. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I think that that is, like, COVID is becoming front and center because the midterms are coming up and maybe he needs a way to, like, have narrative flexibility. | ||
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Sure, sure, sure. | |
| Strategic flexibility. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| So I think that that's... | ||
| Maybe what's going on? | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| So by ramping up... | ||
| So I'm kind of feeling like by ramping up the vaccine talk, that gives Alex the wedge for the eventual or an uneventual push. | ||
| Or, conversely... | ||
| It could be the kind of content you need to put out in order to get Trump to realize that he should join the anti-vaccine. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| So it kind of has multiple applications. | ||
| Man, he just doesn't... | ||
| It's kind of interesting to me that he doesn't understand narcissism. | ||
| Because ironically, there's no way Trump would ever do that. | ||
| He feels proud of the vaccine for doing it. | ||
| So in order for him to... | ||
| Change his mind on that. | ||
| He would have to take an accomplishment away from himself. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which would be insane. | ||
| It's conceivably one of the few things that he could say, like, I more or less saved millions of lives. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a legitimate thing that he, I mean, obviously didn't do. | ||
| Instead, like, sentencing through his incompetence millions of people to death. | ||
| But it's still, you know... | ||
| Better than nothing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I guess, yeah. | ||
| Can't take away the vaccine's existence. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It happened under him. | ||
| Operation Warp Speed did occur. | ||
| Yeah, I suppose. | ||
| Yeah, and I can understand why, even if you weren't a narcissist, why you wouldn't want to not be proud of that. | ||
| Yeah, that one's kind of pretty good. | ||
| Unequivocally pretty good. | ||
| But then if you're a narcissist, it's going to be like trying to get a ball away from a dog. | ||
| No, can you imagine? | ||
| Actually, sometimes it's not that hard. | ||
| Well, I mean, I'm talking about, like, imagine if Richard Linklater, if Alex had to be like, I hated the movies that I was in. | ||
| That would never happen. | ||
| Or I hated my performance, or I hated what happened. | ||
| I think he talked shit on Linklater. | ||
| No, I know he talked shit on Linklater, but not on his movies. | ||
| He wouldn't be like, I sucked in that movie. | ||
| Yeah, probably not. | ||
| Yeah, it's hard to say. | ||
| This is why you need to have a mentality of like... | ||
| Kill your darlings. | ||
| That kind of writerly mentality. | ||
| Whatever these idols are, you tear them down. | ||
| If you like something, get rid of it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You can't sit around and think about how great it was that you made that vaccine. | ||
| Eyes ahead. | ||
| Burn the boats behind you. | ||
| You have to lick a toad and go out to the woods and break a copy of Waking Life ceremonially. | ||
| Whatever you gotta do, man. | ||
| Spirit journey. | ||
| Yeah, but I think that there is a way... | ||
| You know, you make an interesting point. | ||
| I'm trying to find this sort of angle of how you could appeal to a narcissist to get them to become anti-vax. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I guess it really comes down to what you want, what that person wants. | ||
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Right. | |
| Because if they're out for money or power or something, you could make an argument that there's more money and power on this side. | ||
| True. | ||
| True. | ||
| But it does still run up against the disowning your own achievement. | ||
| I mean, yeah, that seems like the rock in a hard place kind of situation. | ||
| Here's my pitch. | ||
| And the way that Alex is presenting this is you admit you were wrong. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| That's not going to happen. | ||
| That's going to be a tough hurdle. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| Here's what you do, all right? | ||
| You get on a plane with him. | ||
| All right, hook him up to a machine that allows you to go inside his dreams. | ||
| All right, you play Jeannot Rien Regret Noir. | ||
| All right, then you go another level deep inside of his dream. | ||
| Are you following me here? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Okay, now here's the crazy part. | ||
| You have to have somebody build mazes for you. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Don't ask questions! | ||
| Now let me ask you this. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Can I bring a top? | ||
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Um... | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay, I'm in. | ||
| Let's go! | ||
| Alright. | ||
| So, Steve leaves, and Alex talks to that other anti-vax guy who I was fighting sleep. | ||
| Sure, yeah. | ||
| It's mostly about actuaries. | ||
| Yeah, I'd rather re-watch Inception than that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, after that, Alex sits down and wants to talk a little business. | ||
| A little Bitcoin business. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| That Bitcoin donation that he got. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I wish I knew how dire the situation was the last few years. | ||
| I knew it was bad, but I... | ||
| I got lackadaisical. | ||
| I didn't focus on things. | ||
| I didn't focus on bringing in money. | ||
| Really? | ||
| That's what you think? | ||
| We're in bankruptcy, but if we hadn't gotten that $8 million donation in Bitcoin, by the time we cashed out a little bit less than $8 million, when we came in, it was like $9 million, but I waited to see if it would go up and went down. | ||
| Whoever that person saved us, because I didn't know we weren't $3 million behind. | ||
| We were... | ||
| $6 million behind. | ||
| We were insolvent, my accountants told me right after. | ||
| We paid off the debts of $6 million, and we bought $2 million of product. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| It's now coming in. | ||
| And if we are good stewards of that, we can continue to be on air. | ||
| You talk about God working in mysterious ways. | ||
| I mean, if you don't know there's a God, who is this unknown donor that literally... | ||
| Knew my finances better than me and gave us exactly the amount that we played the cards exactly right. | ||
| But that's how God works. | ||
| I wonder if Alex understands how much more suspicious that makes the donation look. | ||
| I mean, good God. | ||
| I know, I know, it's God or whatever, but in the real world, this sounds like a fucking shady deal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Also, based on his telling of things, it would seem that Alex doesn't qualify for bankruptcy. | ||
| If he was six million dollars in the hole and then he paid it off with that divine donation, on what grounds is he declaring bankruptcy? | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| They're solvent now, so he's declaring bankruptcy. | ||
| Wait, hold on. | ||
| What? | ||
| That seems odd. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is some real televangelist shit right here. | ||
| This is like the most amazing... | ||
| Well, to be fair, this is something that Alex does from time to time. | ||
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Oh, no. | |
| The money bombs always make exactly what he needs because it's God's will and whatever. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| That's the shit that the televangelists can do. | ||
| Like, I have two private jets, but they gave me just the exact amount of money that I piss out on a daily basis. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That keeps us going. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| So look. | ||
| All this money that Alex wants you to give him. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He doesn't need it. | ||
| I'm sorry, what? | ||
| He could start a podcast tomorrow. | ||
| He should have focused more on making money is what he just said. | ||
| So now he's going to say that he doesn't need money? | ||
| Well, but he does, but not for himself. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| I gotcha. | ||
| And we're still here and they can't stand it. | ||
| They have big show trials, thousands of articles, hundreds of TV programs. | ||
| That's conservatively. | ||
| Thousands of TV programs. | ||
| Hundreds of thousands of articles. | ||
| Thousands of articles a day. | ||
| You've seen it. | ||
| Like they're going to invade a country lying about us just to taint a jury to try to win a lawsuit to shut us down. | ||
| They're not going to shut anything down. | ||
| I can walk across the street and fire up a podcast that reaches the same amount of people today. | ||
| But you won't have the Darren McBreens and the Greg Reeses and all these incredible Adon Salazars and the Kit Daniels and everybody else that writes the articles and reports and does all this other amazing stuff. | ||
| We don't want them to shut us down or slow us down at any level. | ||
| And you can end their power over us right now. | ||
| You can shut their asses down by financially supporting us at InfowarsTour.com. | ||
| You can help me elude consequences right now. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know if it's a good sales pitch to be like, what about Darren McBreen? | ||
| Here's what, I mean, yeah. | ||
| No, I mean, won't somebody think of the Darren McBrees? | ||
| It's tough. | ||
| It's tough to think about what would happen to them if Infowars would go away. | ||
| I saw that some outlet tracked down one of the jurors and talked to them about that. | ||
| I really feel like an interesting piece would be showing one of the jurors, or if you could, all of the jurors, like these videos afterwards, and seeing how they would feel about their judgment then. | ||
| That would be a really interesting thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I wonder if they'd be like, oh, I'd go much larger. | ||
| Yeah, I wonder if they would listen to this and be like, wow, we should have known all of this. | ||
| But I also wonder how much of it is like, You know, the distinction between the actual damages and the punitive damages. | ||
| Like, I wonder if that would be swayed by him just being a total shithead. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I think, I mean, I imagine that they came to the compensatory damages based on, like, math and shit. | ||
| And then if they knew that the punitive damages would come out to Alex as being like, they're not gonna do fuck all to us and we've destroyed them! | ||
| Like, punitive damages don't exist if the punishment is then equaled out by the guy saying, fuck you, we didn't mean anything. | ||
| That's not really punitive then, is it? | ||
| Not really, but if there are caps in Texas, then I don't know what you can do. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's a mess. | ||
| Texas justice. | ||
| Also, Alex couldn't start a podcast tomorrow and get as many listeners because he's kicked off iTunes. | ||
| It's going to be tough. | ||
| I don't think Spotify is going to really go for you either. | ||
| No, because even the episodes of Rogan with him on their march. | ||
| They're not going to give you your own show after getting rid of their most popular podcaster. | ||
| You could go to Stitcher. | ||
| Well, maybe. | ||
| Anyway, the show ends with a protracted, bizarre sales pitch. | ||
| Get DNA Force. | ||
| Get bodies. | ||
| Get our great immune support. | ||
| Get Ultra 12. Get X2. | ||
| Get Super Metal Vitality finally back in stock and know that you are literally in an arm wrestling contest with Satan. | ||
| What? | ||
| And all I am is the arm. | ||
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What? | |
| InfoWars is the arm. | ||
| What? | ||
| I got a strong arm and a strong will, but the power to hold it in position is you. | ||
| So when I'm struggling, you're struggling. | ||
| When I'm in combat with these people and they're doing everything they can, it's much easier to just stop sitting here at a stalemate with them and for you just to get behind us, pray tonight for us, pray tomorrow for us, spread the word about us, buy the products, and I'm telling you, we're going to slam their hand down and we're going to beat their ass. | ||
| When? | ||
| I smell nothing but victory. | ||
| I'm not victory. | ||
| But the spirit I got right here. | ||
| It's victory. | ||
| And I have never felt better. | ||
| I have never felt stronger because of you. | ||
| Because God works through souls and you've done it. | ||
| And you've done incredible things. | ||
| I thought he worked through arms. | ||
| Think about it. | ||
| We're the number one enemy. | ||
| We're who the enemy hates more than anybody. | ||
| Why is that? | ||
| Because I'm real. | ||
| And you're real. | ||
| And together we create an energy loop. | ||
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What? | |
| A synergy and an amplifying network of goodness. | ||
| I thought you were an arm wrestler. | ||
| It's like they wanted to shut down the churches during lockdown. | ||
| What? | ||
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We're good people coming together, and we're doing it now together. | |
| What a ride. | ||
| That was, I mean, I feel like he just watched Over the Top last night and then just went off from there. | ||
| He was like, I've got this arm wrestling thing. | ||
| I'm the arm. | ||
| Uh-oh, that doesn't make sense. | ||
| They're the body. | ||
| All right, we're doing it. | ||
| We're in a stalemate with the devil. | ||
| We're back. | ||
| Now we're in a stalemate. | ||
| And now we're all just energy. | ||
| We're feeding off of each other. | ||
| We're synergy, not even just energy. | ||
| We're an energy loop. | ||
| We're an energy loop. | ||
| Because I'm real. | ||
| You're real. | ||
| Why does that matter? | ||
| We'll win this hand wrestling arm wrestling contest. | ||
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I feel like the arm wrestling got lost there at the end. | |
| It was just a conduit with which he could ask you for money. | ||
| But he doesn't need it! | ||
| It's for Kit Daniels! | ||
| But I want to win the arm wrestling contest now! | ||
| Would you leave Kit Daniels high and dry in an arm wrestling contest? | ||
| I wouldn't want him to feel that kind of aloneness. | ||
| The guy who is so talented, he defamed somebody and then cried in a deposition about it. | ||
| If it weren't for Kit... | ||
| I would say we don't need to give InfoWars money, but now that I know that it's for Kit... | ||
| And what do you think about Greg Reese? | ||
| Oh, I've never thought about Greg Reese. | ||
| It's not healthy, too. | ||
| No, it's a bad idea. | ||
| So we come to the end of this, and I don't think we learned all that much about Dugan's daughter. | ||
| I found myself to be underwhelmed by his coverage, and a lot of it was just about himself, and why can't I do false flag stuff when they can? | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| A lot of that. | ||
| A lot of anti-vax stuff. | ||
| I always appreciate our episodes that start with a topic and then end with you having to remind me what it was the topic was. | ||
| Happens more than it should. | ||
| It really happens a lot. | ||
| It doesn't happen as often as people collapsing at podiums on live TV. | ||
| And that's happening all the time. | ||
| All the time. | ||
| All the time. | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| So anyway, I like that jazz. | ||
| I wonder if that'll be a new feature of the show. | ||
| I would like it, yeah. | ||
| I wonder if that's a sign of GCN just giving up. | ||
| Elevator music from now on. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| I could start an elevator music podcast across the street tomorrow. | ||
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The girl from Ipanema goes walking. | |
| Look, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then we have a website. | ||
| Indeed we do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Yep, we're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| We will be back, but until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZXClark. | ||
| I'm Wilford Snibblesnabble of the Gribble Pibble. | ||
| And now here comes the sex robot. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |