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#719: August 19, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan swing back a couple days to check in on how Alex Jones celebrated the end of Reliable Sources and the fall of Stelter.  As a bonus, they get to hear Alex rant excessively about how he's God's chosen leader of the Patriots.  Citations Dreamy Creamy Fundraiser

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alex jones
19:11
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dan friesen
52:34
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jordan holmes
26:45
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greg reese
04:39
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ari shaffir
00:01
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brian stelter
00:05
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pastor david manning
00:02
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steve quayle
00:02
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge.
Fight.
Need.
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody!
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Chuck.
dan friesen
We're global dudes.
Like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot today.
It's been a little while since we've checked in on the dreamy, creamy summer.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
And talked about some of the ice cream treats.
Naturally.
That have been going in my mouth.
jordan holmes
Yes.
It hasn't slowed down since I've been gone.
dan friesen
It has not.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
And it's been going at full speed.
I think I'm up around, like, maybe 60?
jordan holmes
60 ice creams.
dan friesen
I think so, yeah.
But this is, I mean, part of the problem is...
It can be tough to find enough variety.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
dan friesen
Of easily accessible things.
You don't have to, like, special order.
Get dry ice deliveries from some places.
jordan holmes
Listen, most of the best ice creams I've had have been in San Francisco, and you're going to have to go a long way for that shit.
dan friesen
It's true.
And a couple times I've tried to order, like, ice cream cakes, and they have not...
They've fallen through.
jordan holmes
No, we need to stop you from ordering ice cream cakes.
dan friesen
But I think there's obviously still a good couple weeks left of the Dream of Creamy Summer, so anything could happen.
But right now, I am feeling like I'm pretty close to giving the title to...
Cool House.
jordan holmes
Cool House.
dan friesen
H-A-U-S.
jordan holmes
Well, yes, I assumed that.
dan friesen
I think that their consistency is pretty solid.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Like across the different flavors of ice cream sandwiches and novelties.
jordan holmes
So we're talking as a whole, not like best ice cream, but a best producer of ice cream.
dan friesen
I think so.
I think so.
And if I had to choose the standout all-star from them, it would probably be the street churro cone.
jordan holmes
That sounds amazing.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's quite good.
I enjoyed it.
It's, uh, yeah.
But today what I want to talk about is a little head-to-head challenge that I did.
jordan holmes
A head-to-head challenge?
I wanted to try out a churro versus any other dessert, because churros are incredible.
dan friesen
Yeah, they're too good.
They're almost enough.
jordan holmes
The king of desserts!
dan friesen
They're almost enough to get me to buy a box of that Cinnamon Toast Crunch churros.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
But I didn't, because I assume it's just Cinnamon Toast Crunch at a different shape.
jordan holmes
It's absolute garbage.
dan friesen
Um, I wanted to, you know how some, they have some ice cream treats that are like...
You know, poppable?
jordan holmes
Yes, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
You know, their little ice cream balls and chocolate?
jordan holmes
Yeah, like little ice cream popcorn.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
So there's one that's, like, low class.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry.
Is there a box of wine version of the poppable ice cream snack?
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And it's the Nestle's Crunch poppables.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Now, of course.
Actually, the problem is the moment you said it, I was like, yes, you're right.
Those are the...
dan friesen
Pedestrian as hell.
jordan holmes
Yes, that's what they are.
dan friesen
And then there's a classier version.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
That is like, I think it's called Dream Pops or something like that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Whatever they are.
dan friesen
Maybe a non-dairy situation.
jordan holmes
Ugh, disgusting.
dan friesen
Look, they're...
Both bad.
That's the end result of this.
jordan holmes
Interesting head-to-head.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Cheap one was slightly less bad.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
But they both sucked.
jordan holmes
Well, okay.
You know, I found...
dan friesen
They can't all be street churro cones, man.
jordan holmes
In situations where you're dealing with a subpar snack, usually the snack that really goes for being the most subpar winds up tasting better.
dan friesen
Oh, also, that reminds me that also I got in under the wire and got a Choco Taco before...
unidentified
Say where?
dan friesen
Before they shut down operations.
Before they were victims of cancel culture.
jordan holmes
The ultimate cancel culture.
Seasons.
dan friesen
Good.
It was good.
jordan holmes
Yeah?
dan friesen
I will say that I remember it being better, but I think that's how almost everything is.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
Your taste buds were newer.
dan friesen
The rose-colored glasses of history.
You look back on these ice cream novelties of yore, and you think, like, oh, God, it was so perfect.
The ice cream was just the right consistency.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
But yeah, almost every time you're going to get one of those, the taco itself, the shell is going to be a little, the consistency isn't great.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Tacos are kind of a bad thing to have, like, too squishy a middle.
jordan holmes
You need a crunch.
dan friesen
You need a crunch.
But the insides of it, like, you bite down on it, ice cream's going to spill out.
That's almost inevitable.
jordan holmes
That is true.
dan friesen
But yeah, still pretty good.
Better than either of the poppables.
jordan holmes
That's not hard to do.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So, what about you?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot?
My bright spot is...
Yakuza Like a Dragon.
I enjoyed it.
We talked earlier about how difficult we've been finding a video game.
dan friesen
Yeah.
We thought we'd play something simultaneously.
So we tried Yakuza 0 because it was on sale for like $4.
unidentified
$5, yeah.
jordan holmes
It was a good start.
dan friesen
It was fun, but I think both of us found the combat a little bit monotonous.
jordan holmes
I'm just not a punching punch guy, which is weird because it's essentially the same game.
All the sense of humor is there.
All of the story beats are very similar and stuff.
But there's something about turn-based JRPGs being dropped into modern-day Tokyo that is hilarious.
It's just very, very funny, and it's a good game.
I like it.
dan friesen
Well, good.
Maybe I'll give it a try.
Okay.
jordan holmes
Maybe I won't.
dan friesen
We'll see.
jordan holmes
You're not really a turn-based RPG guy too often, are you?
dan friesen
I think I was the person who told you to try Three Houses.
jordan holmes
No, for sure.
But I mean, like, this is more like a Final Fantasy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I have not historically been too much of that.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But I think that maybe it's something that I enjoy more than I know.
So I don't know.
I think I enjoy that.
jordan holmes
You might appreciate it.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I like Three Houses.
jordan holmes
Well, there we go.
dan friesen
Hey.
unidentified
Hey.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we've got an episode to go over.
And here, this is, I don't know if it's unprecedented, but it's rare.
And that is that we're actually going to go back to the past, but only like a couple days before our last episode, because I realized that we missed something in terms of the catching up to the present day.
So we're going to be talking about August 19th, 2022 today.
And that is because this is the day after Brian Stelter got canceled.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right!
After we got Brian Stelter canceled.
dan friesen
Look, I don't think there's a direct correlation.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
You don't know.
dan friesen
Well, certainly no causation.
There is correlation.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
They let us on CNN.
jordan holmes
They should never have done that.
dan friesen
The next week is his last episode.
jordan holmes
They didn't understand the consequences cosmically.
I understand that maybe it wasn't us who got Stelter specifically fired, but by us going on CNN, cosmic consequences were going to occur.
dan friesen
It unlocked Pandora's box.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And I do think that it had something to do with Yes!
jordan holmes
Worth it.
dan friesen
So yeah, I was looking at some of the stuff that had happened over the course of the time that we'd missed.
Sure.
unidentified
And obviously there's the fake turning on Trump and Dugan's daughter's death.
dan friesen
Of course.
They seemed like actually important things.
And in that, I kind of just forgot that Stelter, his show had been canceled and...
I don't know.
Maybe there was a part of me that was blocking it out of my mind since we were on it.
Right, right, right, right.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Also, we don't really pay attention to TV, honestly.
dan friesen
No, but this is important for Alex.
jordan holmes
Yes, that's the thing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This is way more important for Alex than anyone other than Brian Stelter, right?
dan friesen
I think it's probably...
More important to him than Stelter.
jordan holmes
Stelter's gonna get another job somewhere.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we'll get into this and see how Alex takes the news, but before we do, Jordan, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, this shout-out goes to Emily from Laura Elise.
She's sorry she fall asleep to this every night.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Back out next, the foundation to finally take Alex Jones' daughter fishing.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, the worst druid ever.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, the dreamy, creamy, supremey.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And Devin Stone, the legal eagle, is a beautiful man, and I now know that Mark Bankston is a handsome beast as well.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
unidentified
Thank you!
dan friesen
And finally, we've got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.
And I'm going to go with the old soundbite for this one.
So thank you so much to Stephen, the bachelor squatch of Ireland.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Four stars.
Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.
pastor david manning
Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.
alex jones
Daddy Shark.
Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.
unidentified
He's a loser little titty baby.
alex jones
I don't want to hate black people.
I renounce Jesus Christ!
dan friesen
Thank you, Stephen.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
Bachelor Squatch.
unidentified
Bachelor Squatch.
dan friesen
But of Ireland, which has fallen out of favor to Scotland in the Knowledge Fight International Listener Rankings.
Step it up, Ireland.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
The Celts are going to come for us, man.
dan friesen
So, here we go.
We're starting off the show here.
This is how Alex comes in.
alex jones
It's the live August 19th, 2022, Friday edition of The Vaunted.
The attack, the embattled InfoWars transmission.
There's too much confusion.
unidentified
There's too much confusion.
alex jones
I can't get no relief.
unidentified
Mr. Spandy, drink my wine.
alex jones
Come and If you thought the news was intense a year ago, do you think it's intense now?
You ain't seen nothing yet.
Thank you so much for joining us on this live, uncensored, unfiltered, teleprompter-free transmission of We the People.
dan friesen
It's interesting, man.
Essentially, nothing Alex says about his own show is accurate there at all.
Like, I guess embattled just means...
Consequences are mounting for things I've done.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
You can make an argument that he's teleprompter-free, but that doesn't mean anything.
And he has a screen in front of him that producers put messages on, he has a board that shows him the collars, and he has an earpiece that the producers are talking to him throughout the show on.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but he doesn't have a teleprompter.
dan friesen
No, that's true.
jordan holmes
See?
dan friesen
But it's not as freewheeling of a show as Alex wants it to appear.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The show is not uncensored because he can't swear on the radio, so by definition he's operating...
And I couldn't imagine a show that's more filtered than this one.
Just recently, with the acknowledgement of Trump taking money from Pfizer, we saw a crystal clear example of the sort of filtering Alex does to the information that's acceptable to be on his show.
This is a common thing, too.
Like, Alex will conveniently pretend to not be aware of certain things about figures he's trying to support, but when they fall slightly out of his good graces, he magically knows about all the things that should have been a big problem for him before.
We saw another glaring example of this with Bill Barr, who Alex loved, but then when he wouldn't back Trump's nonsense at the end of his presidency, Alex suddenly had information about Barr's family's ties Wow!
So he ends up rambling about grotesque topics for long stretches.
Glad to see him rocking out to a little All Along the Watchtower, though.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, I was thinking about that song, and it is kind of interesting to really go back in time and think about how much that type of music blew people's minds.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, now, that is fucking nothing to me.
Like, music has moved...
Way beyond that.
But back then, that must have blown people's heads off.
dan friesen
Yeah, I used to think about that quite a bit.
Like, the idea of this being played on the radio.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Like, the first times you heard it on the radio, like, what the fuck is this?
jordan holmes
Yeah, how could you get, you were listening to fucking clock dancing before that, and then all of a sudden this happens.
Of course you lost your fucking body.
dan friesen
You go from Lawrence Welk over to Baba O 'Reilly.
jordan holmes
Oh my god, everybody was talking about the latest fiddle player before this happened, and now you're like, holy shit, what am I doing?
What are you doing in this small town?
dan friesen
I mean, it's oversimplifying things a little bit, but yeah, that wonder is kind of, like, it seems, maybe it's just because it's something that is inaccessible to us and something outside of our life experience.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But if you, yeah, imagining...
You know what it is, too?
It's a desire and an urge to go back to a monoculture.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
I can see that.
dan friesen
It's like everybody was connected by hearing these songs on the radio.
Sure.
There was this thing that everybody was experiencing, or at least everybody within your cohort, your age cohort.
jordan holmes
I get what you're saying.
I'm going to throw it more towards, like, I'm longing for the days whenever a discovery was more like, you know, Pythagoras discovered A squared plus B squared, you know, and it's like, holy shit, nobody's gonna discover anything for like a thousand years after that, you know?
So with All Along the Watchtower, nobody had heard shit like that before, you know, but whenever Kanye comes out with Jesus Walks, you know, that's great, that's awesome, and it's epoch-changing, but it's not like back then, because we already had All Along the Watchtower.
If I didn't have Jesus Walks, you know, I could still listen to that shit.
They didn't have anything!
They had nothing!
unidentified
Those poor, poor bastards in the past!
They were wasted!
dan friesen
It was all just nothing.
And then Jimi Hendrix came along.
jordan holmes
And then one day...
dan friesen
And I believe that's a cover of a Bob Dylan song too.
So they actually had another version of this song already.
jordan holmes
I'm having a great time.
dan friesen
Your point makes sense.
alex jones
Thank you.
dan friesen
And one of the problems is Alex is so dumb and boring that we end up being interested on going down that road.
So Alex has a big news story that I think will probably be his main focus for today.
alex jones
Let me just do this.
Let me just give you the main stack headlines.
We're going to plow through them all, take calls, and have a special guest in studio.
They put out a press release yesterday.
They put out a podcast with Klaus Schwab and others, and they have declared their number one enemy, InfoWars, and have said that they've hired 110,000 operatives that they called Information Warriors.
Where have we heard that term before?
The InfoWarriors.
To counter we the people.
I mean...
Man, I keep trying to explain to the listeners, they're really scared of us.
Not just me, but the fact that we've got the Death Star plans.
dan friesen
Oh, big, big if true.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yesterday, they put out this press release.
jordan holmes
A lot of agents for one press release.
dan friesen
That's true.
So I was able to find the story that Alex is talking about, and it's an article in News Punch about the World Economic Forum hiring 110,000 people to combat misinformation on social media.
This was a post that was published on August 17th, 2022, and it's based on a video published by a channel called The People's Voice.
This is just like a junior varsity-ass InfoWars channel on YouTube, and their main source is a podcast the World Economic Forum put out featuring the UN Communications Director, Melissa Fleming.
She never mentions Infowars being Klaus Schwab's number one enemy, though she does discuss efforts they were taking to push back against misinformation.
The first one she mentions is called Verified, which is done with the help of a communications firm, and it was an effort to take solid information and put it into formats that would be easy to share on social media.
The concern was that so much of the actual information that you could have was buried in inaccessible PDFs and large documents, whereas misinformation is packaged so slickly and it's optimized for engagement.
That's the entire business model for misinformation, so it's a primary concern for them, whereas the folks at the UN were a bit behind on making the information Well, I mean, their fundamental issue is that they're running up against learning is hard and chocolate is delicious.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, essentially.
Another initiative they were launching is called Paws, where they were trying to spread the message that you should stop and think before reposting something that seems too good to be true.
It excites you, so you want to post it, but maybe it's bullshit.
Take a second and think about it.
And if you still want to share it once that adrenaline wears off, go ahead.
Apparently the belief is that encouraging this sort of behavior would cut down drastically on nonsense posting.
I'm skeptical, but meh, you know, maybe it couldn't hurt.
She also does say that they've recruited 110,000 information volunteers who are applying these kinds of practices and introducing good information into misinformation spaces.
I guess Alex could consider that information warfare, and maybe he's right, but I also think it is defensive in nature.
All that being said, this podcast was released in November 2020.
Ooh!
unidentified
This is not news!
dan friesen
It didn't happen yesterday.
jordan holmes
So close.
dan friesen
It's being presented in this news punch article as if it is, and because Alex has no idea what he's talking about or covering, he thinks it's news too.
If only he'd listened to Fleming's advice about thinking before you repost something.
Ironically, maybe he would have gotten this story It's possible.
jordan holmes
Possible.
Doubtful.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, I was wondering...
Here's my problem there, okay?
With the news punch thing, can the World Economic Forum just hire 100,000 people?
dan friesen
They're volunteers.
No, that's what I'm saying.
They didn't hire anybody.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm saying.
That's my big issue with that.
What are you talking about?
Nobody has just the kind of cash to toss around at 110,000 new employees, let alone the World Economic Forum.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I'm willing to bet that a lot of this is fairly unofficial.
I'm willing to bet that some of this is just like...
People signed some kind of a pledge, some sort of a symbolic pledge.
jordan holmes
No, the Nielsen ratings are 100% accurate.
Thank God for them.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But, I mean, Alex is getting a lot of mileage out of this two-year-old podcast that he thinks happened yesterday.
jordan holmes
Ouch.
Two years old.
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Not good.
So we get to stelter here, and Alex is in a mood.
alex jones
We have some celebratory things here to make fun of.
But I don't know if I can laugh because I want to cry.
Brian Stelter, who already had no viewers, so his show was already canceled.
If no one's watching, like 100,000 viewers, I mean, small local radio shows have that.
We have millions and millions and millions of listeners an hour.
So, if you already didn't have any viewers, it's...
It's a fact that he had a zombie broadcast like CNN.
It's dead.
It's not alive.
No one's watching.
It's a joke.
dan friesen
I think this is sad.
He can't even really muster the energy to dance on Stelter's grave.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
It's, uh, that's...
jordan holmes
Yeah, but you know...
dan friesen
This should be his greatest day ever.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
When you have a nemesis, all right, you can't be happy when your nemesis is gone because your nemesis is what pushed you to the heights that you couldn't have reached without said nemesis.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
It's not a formal enemy, an enemy you defeat, but Stelter.
Stelter was a man among men.
dan friesen
We are about to play...
I'm going to play a clip a little bit later where Alex is repeatedly yelling that Stelter is his enemy.
Okay, well, I did my best.
I get what you're saying, though.
You have more of a bond with the arch nemesis.
jordan holmes
Sometimes it's the only people you have a bond with, truly.
dan friesen
And I think that there is a, like, well, I won't have him to punch around anymore.
There's probably a disappointment.
When Alex doesn't have a Democrat in office or whatever, he doesn't have that easy tool.
And for Stelzer to be gone, it's going to be a little bit harder for him to...
I don't know, deal with Wolf Blitzer.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it must be bittersweet.
It must be a bittersweet feeling to know that you've perhaps outlived your oldest enemy, but you're still an old, wasting man yourself.
dan friesen
True, true.
jordan holmes
Deep.
dan friesen
So, we're going to get into a little bit of coverage that Alex has about monkeypox.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
And I'm just going to give a little bit of a warning.
This is pretty intensely homophobic.
Why would I expect otherwise?
Yeah, pretty bad.
alex jones
By the way, 99.9% of the monkeypox cases with no deaths in the U.S. are gay men having hundreds of sexual partners a month.
And the media is defending it, saying, we want you to go under lockdown, we want you to wear masks, but we want to continue, actually I have articles, the gay orgies.
So you've got to wear a mask, you've got to go under lockdown, they're saying coming soon, but...
These men can get together and give each other a bunch of diseases.
Disgusting.
dan friesen
See, that's not good.
Wow.
Man, I hope all those people like Alex Lee Moyer and Glenn Greenwald and Joe Rogan who love to carry water for Alex like the kind of messages they're steering people towards because that's pretty cool.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, no, no, it's great.
dan friesen
So while it is true that the available information does indicate that men who have sex with men are disproportionately represented in the cases of monkeypox that have been identified at this point, the way Alex is covering this is unacceptable and is essentially no different than the rhetoric you would have heard him spout in the early days of AIDS.
Yep.
unidentified
He has an intense disdain for the LGBTQ community, but he knows it's unfashionable to just be honest about that, so he finds other stories he can use as cover to express it.
dan friesen
An important point about this whole dynamic comes up in a CNBC article.
About 98% of patients who provided demographic information to clinics identified as men who have sex with men, according to the CDC.
That's not necessarily saying that 98% of people who have contracted monkeypox are men who have sex with men.
there may be a percentage of people who saw treatment who did not provide that demographic information.
That said, it would be slightly dishonest to say that there's not something statistically relevant here.
There do appear to be increased rates in the community of gay and bisexual men, but it's dangerous to create this association and even more dangerous to pretend that It's a complicated situation and people like Alex acting like this are going to get innocent people hurt.
I think that's what he wants.
Incidentally, there's no call for monkeypox lockdowns.
And, in fact, the reality is just the opposite of what Alex is saying.
Tedros, the head of the World Health Organization, said this at the end of last month.
Quote, for men who have sex with men, this includes for the moment.
He's talking about, like, mitigating actions.
This includes for the moment reducing your number of sexual partners, reconsidering sex with new partners, and exchanging contact details with any new partners to enable follow-up if needed.
Alex hates the LGBTQ community, so he makes up shit to attack them with, things that paint him as the victim and them as a privileged class who the system wouldn't dare even suggest inconveniencing.
He's pretending that the government is going to force good people like himself to lock down over monkeypox, but they won't even think of suggesting behavioral advice to gay men.
This is complete bullshit, because the World Health Organization has a goal of dealing with the outbreak by serving the people who are affected by it while working to minimize any stigma that's going to lead to discrimination.
Conversely, Alex's goal is that discrimination itself.
So furthering that goal is not best served by dealing with what the World Health Organization is actually doing, but rather by creating a fake storyline that conforms to your persecution complex.
And it's complete shit.
Yep.
Great.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, he sucks.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, first off...
Only Wilt Chamberlain has had hundreds of partners in a month.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Let's start right there.
dan friesen
And even if you want to take that and ground it a little bit, the close contact that can spread monkeypox is not something you need a hundred partners.
You could have one partner.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
You could go on a date with somebody and have a great time and even use condoms, conceivably, and still...
Contracted from skin-to-skin contact.
jordan holmes
I mean, and also, all we're really seeing is what happens whenever you have a community that is isolated due to shit, and a disease breaks out in an isolated community.
It is going to break out of that community eventually, but as it stands right now, the only reason that it's stuck there is because of discrimination that's already inherent in the fucking system.
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
Like, this is a self-made creation.
Again!
Always!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's very frustrating.
dan friesen
And there's also a self-fulfillingness that Alex is kind of working towards.
I think it was fairly similar with COVID.
And that is that his actions and a lot of the rhetoric that he's putting out is exactly what you would do if you wanted the disease to spread more.
jordan holmes
Well, we said it at the beginning.
He must have been paid for.
dan friesen
By COVID?
jordan holmes
By COVID, yeah.
I mean, that's the only explanation, is that he was working for COVID.
dan friesen
Ladies and gentlemen, we are subsidized by COVID.
jordan holmes
I mean, is it possible for a virus to, like, congeal together a personality long enough to pay Alex $50 million in order to spread itself?
dan friesen
I don't think so, but if it is possible, that's what's happening.
jordan holmes
That is what happens.
dan friesen
And Alex gets worse, even.
Let's say.
jordan holmes
That's great.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's great.
alex jones
Absolutely disgusting to spread disease like that.
I don't care if you're heterosexual or homosexual.
Yes, you do.
Men and women were having hundreds of sexual partners a month and spreading disease.
That's disgusting.
That's dangerous.
It's like saying you're going to go lick toilet bowls at the airport.
jordan holmes
Or you're going to go to a grocery store without a mask and spit on people.
alex jones
It's okay that Tim Cook runs death camps in China.
Because he's gay.
And he wears a little turtleneck.
It's like, oh, he's non-threatening.
He's gay.
It's alright.
He runs death camps with suicide nets around him.
The same thing here.
Well, it's alright.
You know, we've got to lock down society because of what you're doing.
Just keep doing it.
We're going to make little kids, though, wear masks over their faces.
And it's like, well, so what if they rape dogs?
Bestiality.
And give them monkey pox, and they've got to be euthanized.
It's liberal.
It's all about they can do whatever they want, and we gotta just stand down and put up with this crap.
dan friesen
So yeah, Rogan, how do you feel about Alex suggesting that there's a connection between being gay and raping dogs?
jordan holmes
These motherfuckers for years, multiple years.
Bitched and whined about having to wear a mask to stop spreading disease, and now they're going to wring their hands at, oh my god, someone spreading disease doing something I don't like, instead of going into random strangers' home and spitting all over their shit, coughing in front of somebody at an abortion clinic.
Like, all of this shit, they are disease-ridden horror monsters, and they're gonna come at me with this bullshit!
That's very frustrating.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
It's very frustrating.
dan friesen
I understand your frustration.
I think I'm more frustrated by the aggressively anti-gay mentality that he's expressing.
jordan holmes
Right.
Everything that he says is absurd.
It's awful.
It's fucking awful.
dan friesen
It is.
So look, Alex wants you to post his shit online.
Yeah.
Because you have to.
You have to fight back against Schwab.
jordan holmes
It's the Infowars.
alex jones
But man, let that sink in.
Let me put this full show headline up.
World Economic Forum publicly declares an information warfare operation with information warriors to counter Infowars and other disinformation outlets.
How honored are you as the army of Infowars?
To know that you're in direct conflict and information warfare with Klaus Schwab and the New World Order.
Now do you understand why I say share the articles and videos?
Now do you understand why I say magnify what we're doing?
Because I don't want to be the best in the fight.
Because I'm not that good.
I want to stop these people.
I want to see other leaders like Tucker Carlson, Bolsonaro, Joe Rogan, and others stand up.
And they're starting to.
But you know what?
The enemy recognizes us and me.
As the number one enemy of their New World Order, I told you 20 years ago, while I was eating a chicken fried steak and drinking an iced tea 27 years ago, at Waterloo Ice House after I'd done a two-hour TV show, that I literally, talk about a vision, it was like a download, and God showed me the future, what was going to happen, and also how dangerous it would be, and said, are you ready to sign on for this?
I remember sitting there.
Yeah, alone in that restaurant and going, yes, I accept this.
It's like I was floating.
I go, yes, I accept the mission.
And it went, here's the rest of the download.
And I got slammed with the imprint of data.
And it was like, all right, soldier, you joined, get ready.
I literally was commissioned by God for this war.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Yeah, this seems like somebody who's like so much more reliable than the mainstream media.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
This is a guy who you go to to cut through the bullshit.
You know?
jordan holmes
Right!
I mean, Jake and Elwood Blues were busy, so God had to commission a different asshole for this job.
dan friesen
Honestly, their mission from God was saving a bunch of children.
jordan holmes
As a practice run.
It was lower stakes than this mission from God.
dan friesen
Saving an orphanage by doing a concert.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That, I think, is fine.
jordan holmes
I mean, if you're going to have delusions of grandeur, at least that's a good one.
dan friesen
Yeah.
This is a little bit different.
jordan holmes
Maybe a little bit wrong.
dan friesen
So look, Klaus Schwab put out this podcast that he didn't yesterday, but it was two years ago.
jordan holmes
Two years ago, yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex wants to explain to you why.
alex jones
Here we are, inside the New World Order.
Well, the World Economic Forum, which is the mouth of the New World Order, the mouth of the UN, the mouth of the megacorporations, the mouth of the slave masters, the spokesperson for evil.
Has come out and said that their attempted world, continual, never-ending lockdown and forced injection failed.
It was still devastating.
And now there's a total rejection happening of them across the board.
And billions of rotting, poison, mRNA gene therapies that no one will take.
And their answer is a declaration of war, next-level censorship.
With 110,000 volunteers inside media and big tech, an army of Brian Stelter, Humpty Dumpty Pennywises.
dan friesen
Well, Brian Stelter...
Got fired.
jordan holmes
Brian Stilter, Humpty Dumpty Pennywise, is a barrage of imagery.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So that clip brings up something that I want to stress for a second here.
So a lot is made of how Alex just makes stuff up all the time, and rightfully so.
However, it's key to recognize that he does more than just make up details and lie about concrete facts.
He also writes stories out of these fake facts that are necessary to explain them within the context of his made-up world.
For instance, here Alex has this headline that he's done zero investigation into that he's presenting as the World Economic Forum declaring war on Infowars by hiring 110,000 information volunteers to counter misinformation.
In order to bolster this story, he needs to connect it to some of his larger storylines.
In order to embellish this story, Alex says that the World Economic Forum is doing this because there's so many shots that no one wants to take and all the anti-vax people are winning the war of ideas, so they enlisted an army to crush anti-vax voices like Alex.
This is tantamount to him running a disinformation campaign against a campaign meant to fight misinformation, which makes sense.
Liars really don't like fact-checkers.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, why would you not go after them?
dan friesen
Yeah.
But what's critical here is that Alex is making up the why for this story out of thin air.
He's got a piece of information, this 110,000 volunteers thing, but he has literally no other details about this story, so he's just making it up.
He doesn't realize this was a story from November 2020 before any of the vaccines were even available, which is kind of sad.
In order to make sense of why the World Economic Forum would be doing this in the present day, as Alex thinks they are, he just falls back on what version of this story would be most emotionally satisfying for himself and the audience.
That's why the rationale for their alleged action is that Alex's side is too successful and they have all these expiring vaccines that no one wants.
This explanation is a fiction that creates a sense of victory for the listeners, and more importantly, it frames their online activity as a critical part of the fight against the World Economic Forum's information volunteers.
Promoting Alex's content isn't just about getting new people into his revenue streams and selling his dumb pills, it's actually fighting back against Klaus Schwab's cyber army who are only even being enlisted because you all were too powerful with your previous posting of Alex's content to begin with.
This narrative works really well for Alex on a couple fronts, but it's completely made up.
The simple detail that the podcast that's the basis for this entire story came out in November 2020 reveals it all to just be shit that Alex is making up to stroke his own ego and convince the listeners to continue working as his unpaid social media team.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's wild.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it is a little bit like somebody took a Ren Faire too far.
And it's just now his full life.
You know, just every day is the Ren Faire.
And whenever something...
Like, if somebody brings a phone in there, they gotta retcon the entire Ren Faire to make sense of the phone being inside.
And then every time you add a new thing, now we're in a cyberpunk Ren Faire.
And so now we've got God over there.
Like, it's just a bigger and bigger Ren Faire.
dan friesen
I was not listening to you because I started to think about Renfield Ren Faire.
jordan holmes
Ooh!
dan friesen
What would that look like?
Or a Renfair Renfield.
jordan holmes
A Renfair Renfield.
unidentified
So it would be a Renfield who's at a Renfair.
dan friesen
He's got a big turkey leg.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's got a gallon of mead, a flagon.
No, I see that.
dan friesen
Sorry, I know you were making a point, but I got distracted by wordplay.
jordan holmes
I think I just started talking about Renfairs.
dan friesen
So here Alex plays a clip of that podcast that, again, is two years old.
alex jones
WEF announces a recruitment of 110,000 information warriors, close quote, to counter Infowars.
We specifically in their documents are named, and the American people and others resisting their design planetary collapse.
Let's play a short clip of the podcast that the WEF spokesperson just put out.
unidentified
As a part of this verified and paused campaign entails also recruiting people around the world.
And so far we've recruited 110,000 information volunteers.
dan friesen
This is all, I mean, it's just an elaborate fiction based on Alex not looking into the story that he's telling.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's sad.
jordan holmes
Do we have any follow-up on these volunteers?
Like, whenever she announces we've got 110,000...
That's 110,000 people signed up.
Did anybody actually do fuck all?
dan friesen
No, but I saw...
jordan holmes
I know we didn't solve disinformation in the past two years.
dan friesen
Nope.
But I did see a recent thread on the conspiracy subreddit.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And the people were like, oh, that explains all the shills commenting recently.
jordan holmes
Recently!
dan friesen
Because they didn't look into it either!
jordan holmes
Of course not!
dan friesen
Yeah, they just saw this News Punch article, the headline, and the date on the article is recent, so...
jordan holmes
Oh, all the shills.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, when will the shills stop shilling, Dan?
dan friesen
It really also brings into sharp focus the idea of what a joke this notion of critical thinking in conspiracy and like Alex Jones-y communities are.
Did any of these folks and their great leader, Alex, stop to ask themselves, what's the context of this?
Is there an actual story here?
No, it's convenient.
It's saying what you want it to say, and so you will not only accept it as real and true and current, you'll embellish and make up details about it to make it even more perfect for your...
For your ego.
jordan holmes
I do appreciate anybody who gets a piece of information and then instantly is like, well, that explains this other thing that it doesn't have anything to do with.
I enjoy that because there's nothing in between.
You'd think there would be something in between, but no, you're just like, ah, that explains that.
My world makes sense again!
dan friesen
Hooray!
So Alex is mad at Sam Harris, and I don't care.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
I want to hit this niche.
Because if you want to talk about a Rosetta Stone, if you want to talk about a skeleton key, if you want to talk about something that really illustrates who we're up against and their hubris, their smugness, their bravado, it's this clip.
jordan holmes
You are wasting time, dude.
unidentified
Come on.
alex jones
Sam Harris is a supposed deep, dark web intellectual leftist.
And he's doing an interview a few days ago.
And he goes, well, of course we censor conservatives and there's a conspiracy to do it.
Trump's too dangerous.
dan friesen
Sam Harris is in charge of all media or something?
jordan holmes
Yeah, obviously.
dan friesen
Alright, whatever.
I don't really care.
But one of the things that Sam Harris was talking about was that the corruption that you can find with Biden and Hunter Biden, it doesn't come anywhere close to what Trump...
Well, yeah.
Is involved in.
So, these kinds of arguments about the corruption and the concerns about it are kind of weird and dumb.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
One of the things that he brings up is Trump University, and Alex is going to latch onto that.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But I want to clarify one thing really quick.
According to Alex, in Alex's worldview, the crimes of the Bidens are much greater than Trump's.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
But in the real world...
jordan holmes
Well...
dan friesen
Not really so much.
So if Alex is comparing Trump's university, let's say, to the fake imaginary version of Biden, then yes, Trump University, not that bad.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But if we're in the real world...
Trump looks pretty shitty.
jordan holmes
He does.
dan friesen
And that's kind of the tension that's at play in this clip.
jordan holmes
And that's even if you want to add in all of Biden's shitty, like, shady Delaware shit that he's been doing for the whole time.
Like, oh, credit card companies don't have to pay, blah, blah, blah.
That's corrupt.
I get it.
But that still isn't...
I got nuclear secrets in my house.
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm not...
jordan holmes
It's a little different.
dan friesen
I'm not saying anything to, like...
Let Biden off the hook for any corrupt dealings.
I'm just saying that he didn't kill kids in a basement.
jordan holmes
He didn't kill kids in a basement!
dan friesen
Which Alex is going to allege in this clip.
And then Alex loses the thread and gets really defensive about how he didn't go to college.
jordan holmes
That sounds about right.
alex jones
That's not an issue, according to Sam Harris.
No.
He goes, just look at nothing Biden can do, including dead bodies in a basement of children.
jordan holmes
Wait, the basement is of children?
alex jones
And being compromised by foreign powers.
Can you compare to Trump University?
Which I think was a great deal.
Weekends with Trump and top experts and brainstorming and networking.
I mean, I can tell you.
People ask, why did you go to college, you pathetic creature?
Well, I mean, I got out of high school and I went and got a job selling memberships at a...
Spa.
At a gym.
And I was making $100,000 a year when I was 19. What?
I was driving a sports car.
I was in a nice two-bedroom apartment.
I was having the time of my life.
$100,000 30 years ago was like a million dollars a day.
I was 19 years old making $100,000 a year working four hours a day.
Because I became a salesman, and I sold a good product, and I looked good, and people bought the memberships, especially the women.
But the point is...
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
Why did we do this?
alex jones
And a few times went on a date.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
I love that salesman job.
The point is, is that...
I'm red-blooded, folks.
I don't lie about it.
jordan holmes
What is happening?
alex jones
The point is that that was a real value.
That experience was real.
I should have paid to be a salesman at that hot club.
jordan holmes
I mean...
alex jones
One of the hottest gyms in Austin at the time.
They said, hey, you want to be a salesman?
I said, sure.
Boom, salesman.
First weekend, sold like 10 memberships.
dan friesen
This is about Sam Harris, remember?
jordan holmes
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
alex jones
They say, I don't have a college degree because I'm a loser.
No.
I don't have a college degree because I went on the fast track to success, but that doesn't even matter.
That's not even what I'm getting at here.
jordan holmes
What are you getting at?
alex jones
All these educated idiots like Sam Harris that talk real slow and act real smug and sit there in their chair and say, yeah, you know.
The number one evil of Trump is his Trump University.
dan friesen
Is your problem that he's sitting in a chair?
What are you talking about?
jordan holmes
What is happening?
dan friesen
Alex is...
I mean, look, I think that it's fairly important to recognize that not everybody does need to go to college.
I think higher education is fantastic.
I'm a big proponent of it, but I don't think...
That people should be shamed for not going to college.
jordan holmes
I didn't graduate.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's not the most important thing in the world.
People learning a trade is pretty fantastic.
A lot of people find a great deal of happiness.
jordan holmes
You can learn whatever you want.
Just find some books.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
It'll be great.
dan friesen
So I just want to put that to the side, just because I don't want to be shitting on Alex for not going to college or anything.
But he really is insecure about it.
Oh, yeah.
What's being expressed here is very much a feeling of why does everyone think he's so smart?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is...
dan friesen
Maybe because he doesn't go into shit like his monkeypox nonsense.
jordan holmes
Let's start right...
Before we go any further, all right?
Let's start with the easy smart thing to do.
Don't defend Trump University.
unidentified
Ooh.
jordan holmes
It lost the lawsuit.
You don't even have to.
Just say, oh, that sucks.
dan friesen
I have another smart thing he could do.
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
Not talk constantly about visions from God.
jordan holmes
That would...
I mean, honestly, that would bite into his bottom line.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Not defending Trump University is free.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
There's no downside to not defending university.
But...
There is a downside to defending Trump University, which is where you go on to this weird tangent about how you fuck good when you worked at a club.
That's it.
dan friesen
I also think that one of the things that maybe could use some examining on Alex's part is how he never stopped being a salesman.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No, I don't think that's something he can really...
dan friesen
He is not a researcher or a journalist or anything like that.
He is still just a salesman.
He's selling his...
Dumb pills.
He's selling his worldview, more importantly.
That's really his primary product.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He sells you the worldview, you internalize that worldview, and it creates needs that he can fill for you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, there's...
It's a cult shit.
There's nothing that somebody would find unfamiliar if they had just listened to the whole Rich Dad, Poor Dad series, and then watched Alex Jones' cell sit, and they'd be like, oh yeah, no, yeah.
dan friesen
Or if you'd gone to Trump University.
jordan holmes
Actually, I think you would.
You don't get sales skills at Trump University.
You get sold.
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
You get conned.
dan friesen
So Stelter got canceled.
But it wasn't cancel culture.
jordan holmes
No, no.
dan friesen
He just got canceled.
alex jones
Now let's spend some time on Brian Stelter.
Yeah, we can celebrate all day that he's been canceled.
He's a joke.
But he had 100,000 viewers.
For cable news, that's not even a pulse.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
He was good.
Because he was waking people up.
He was a laughingstock.
He was a clown.
jordan holmes
He was a jester.
alex jones
He was an officious, self-serving, arrogant boobie.
He was the most schmug person you could imagine.
That's the armor they wear.
This fake pomposity.
And so now he's been canceled.
CNN canceled itself.
CNN spent 400 and something million dollars.
On CNN Plus, it failed in a month and a half, or less than that.
It was like 40 days.
dan friesen
So there's a lot of theories about exactly why Stelter and Reliable Sources got canceled, and it's unclear what the precise reasons are, but I think everyone is pretty comfortable with the idea that it's part of the aftermath of the Warner Brothers Discovery merger that was finalized back in April.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There have been all sorts of cuts made throughout their properties like HBO Max, and this is actually part of a larger story about big corporate media consolidation, but Alex is completely missing the forest for the trees.
He hates Brian Stelter, and the story he wants to tell about this is that Stelter is a failure who got fired because nobody liked him and his show had no viewers.
That's a story that's emotionally satisfying for Alex, and it's what the listeners want to hear.
There's more to the story, though, but it doesn't matter because, you know, he's the tip of the spear.
He's the king of big tech.
And media watchdoggery and just missing this entirely.
jordan holmes
What a great time for somebody like Alex to really dig into what happens whenever media is monopolized and how the powers that be, whenever they become a smaller group and a smaller number, all of them with control over the media, a number of companies, let's say, smaller than 10. And those companies have CEOs and they all meet in back rooms.
And they control the media, literally.
It would be a great time for somebody who is a conspiracy theorist to talk about that.
dan friesen
Well, I think you're sounding a little bit...
jordan holmes
I'm just saying!
dan friesen
I think that there is a wonderful opportunity for Alex here to rise above his enemies, as it were.
jordan holmes
It would be a great idea.
dan friesen
And he could, instead of talking shit about Stelter, put that aside, because everyone knows he already doesn't like him and all this.
That'd be redundant for him just to do a little dance.
And instead be like, look, sure, we can all be happy about that, but there's a bigger picture.
And also, it's actually a bad sign that Brian Stelter got his show axed.
It's a bad sign that HBO Max is streamlining and laying off all these people.
It's part of the consolidation coming together.
jordan holmes
The story plays, though.
I would die to defend your...
I don't agree with what you say, Mr. Stelter, but I would die for your right to not be owned by one conglomerate.
I demand that this man, my mortal enemy, be freed from his prison of corporate lockstep.
That's there.
That message plays.
Everybody loves that shit.
dan friesen
And it would be an impressive thing for Alex to try.
jordan holmes
It would be amazing.
dan friesen
And he just doesn't have it.
jordan holmes
Doesn't have the guts.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Mr. Stelter, tear down that wall!
unidentified
I mean, yes!
jordan holmes
Come on!
dan friesen
The spirit got in me while you were...
jordan holmes
This is Nixon going to China, man!
You gotta do it!
dan friesen
So Alex plays some clips here.
Here's an old clip of Stelter that Brian...
That Alex...
jordan holmes
We're doing This Is Your Life?
dan friesen
Eh, not really.
I just think there's a few that are like, these are great clips of Stelter.
So here's one.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Okay, so let's play the late, great founder of the Weather Channel, a meteorologist, schooling Brian Stelter years ago.
Here it is.
jordan holmes
First, let me bring in John Coleman.
He's in San Diego this morning.
unidentified
Thank you for being here.
It's nice to be on CNN.
Hello to all your viewers.
I resent you calling me a denier.
That is a word meant to put me down.
I'm a skeptic about climate change, and I want to make it darn clear Mr. Kenny's not a scientist.
I am.
He's the CEO of the Weather Channel now.
I was the founder of the Weather Channel, not the co-founder.
brian stelter
And I'm glad you did, because I am addicted to the Weather Channel.
unidentified
I watch a lot of cable news.
Hold on just a minute.
I'm not done.
CNN has taken a very strong position on global warming that it is a consensus.
Well, there is no consensus in science.
Science isn't a vote.
Science is about facts.
And if you get down to the hard-cold facts, there's no question about it.
Climate change is not happening.
There is no significant...
Man-made global warming now.
There hasn't been any in the past, and there's no reason to expect any in the future.
There's a whole lot of baloney, and yes, it has become a big political point of the Democratic Party and part of their platform, and I regret it's become political instead of scientific, but the science...
It's on my side.
brian stelter
I don't think we're going to come to a conclusion about the topic right here.
jordan holmes
What I do wonder, though, is when you see...
unidentified
Well, I know we're not, because you wouldn't allow it to happen on CNN, but I'm happy that I got on the air and got a chance to talk to your viewers.
Hello, everybody.
There is no global warming.
jordan holmes
I forgot about that.
alex jones
The sea levels haven't risen a half inch in a hundred years.
dan friesen
So doesn't that clip actually kind of refute a lot of Alex's points about mainstream media?
jordan holmes
No, they never put voices that dissent with them on the air, Dan.
dan friesen
Right.
I mean, it's actually one of the worst clips Alex could have chosen to play.
I know it's fun to hear someone be rude to Stelter.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
No, it's great.
dan friesen
I guess that appeals to Alex in some way, but it's actually so counter to the perception of media that is essential to sell Infowars as the alternative to it.
jordan holmes
I mean, he's literally saying, thank you for letting me get my message across on the mainstream media.
dan friesen
Right.
And Stelter is being polite to this guy who's being incredibly rude to him.
unidentified
Absurdly polite.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Can you imagine the reverse?
Like, Stelter coming on Alex's show and being a dick to him and Alex being polite?
unidentified
It doesn't happen.
jordan holmes
No, I can't imagine that.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
No.
Stelter would need to be more famous.
dan friesen
Alex would offer nothing but a hostile platform to somebody who disagrees with him.
And the media, for better or for worse, often does have a...
jordan holmes
Deferential attitude.
dan friesen
Yeah, a gentle platform for dissenting voices.
Maybe not as vigorous debate as Alex would like, which is, I mean, it translates to people screaming at each other and saying disgusting shit.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Calling each other pedophiles and what have you.
jordan holmes
That's a good TV day.
dan friesen
But, yeah, I mean, this is, I would have maybe told him, choose a different clip.
I think this hurts your argument.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it doesn't help Stelter either.
I think that's a fairly good clip to play for everybody to look at the media and just go like, we're not doing a good job.
Whatever it is that it is, that's not good.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, there's certainly questions.
Did you have any reason to suspect this is how Coleman was going to act?
jordan holmes
I mean, that's on you.
dan friesen
Because if so, maybe you could have prepared to field him being a dick.
jordan holmes
Mute.
unidentified
You got a mute button.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex, instead of really celebrating Stelter, he decides he's just going to play some old clips.
jordan holmes
He's reminiscing about his enemy!
dan friesen
Kind of, but also reminiscing about how much he yelled at Stelter.
He's kind of navel-gazing reminiscing.
alex jones
It's Brian Stelter.
There it is.
Oh, my God.
I mean, that is a horror movie cover.
Seriously, he is scarier looking than It the Clown.
I mean, would you let your children anywhere near that psychopath?
I mean, that is a psychopath right there.
I mean, look at him.
God.
Oh, I mean, it just, it cries out.
Danger, danger, alert, alert.
I am a scumbag.
I am filth.
I am your enemy.
I would literally not be able to finish my dinner if somebody walked over and talked to me that looked like these two guys.
And I'm sorry.
They're not just lying anti-American scumbags that want to run us all on the ground because they're little men.
They're pieces of crap.
They think they're better than everybody.
That's what it's about.
It's the spirit of evil.
unidentified
We must break them.
Good point.
alex jones
I've tried to do joke photos like this to look disingenuous, and I can make any face I want to.
I can't.
Pull it off.
Because the eyes, Chico.
unidentified
It's always in the eyes.
Oh!
alex jones
Oh!
Oh my gosh!
Oh!
Hell on earth!
He wants to run your life.
He wants to control every aspect of your life.
Because he knows he is a cowardly, degenerate sack of anti-human trash.
I pledge before my Heavenly Father that I will resist them every way I can.
These people are the literal demon spawn of the pit of hell.
Look at him.
And you know what?
He is better than you if you keep letting him run your life.
He runs your kids.
He runs the schools.
He runs the banks.
This guy, this spirit, this smiling, leering devil that thinks you can't see what he is.
He is your enemy.
dan friesen
So, fun.
I like the music in the background.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is fun.
dan friesen
So this is one of Alex's old rants about Stelter that he just had to replay, probably because he can't be bothered to put any energy into the show today.
jordan holmes
I was gonna say, yeah.
dan friesen
And he knows what people want.
Thankfully, there are these old clips of him putting a little gusto into his Stelter hate.
But this actually is a curious clip to play on the day after Stelter's show's been cancelled and he's out at CNN.
That's because if anything Alex was saying meant anything, then it shouldn't have been so simple to remove him from his perch.
How important is Stelter to the globalist plots if he can just be fired?
Honestly, knowing that Stelter was just axed over business considerations and it didn't cause widespread chaos among the globalists kind of makes this entire presentation that Alex is putting on seem pretty stupid.
It seems so weird to hear how worked up Alex was about Stelter in these clips now that we're on the other side because now that Stelter is out, Alex just seems like a worked up baby who is so mad that someone was criticizing him that he decided to make up a bunch of stuff about them being central to the globalist plans.
And, like, this isn't even the full rant.
It goes on.
alex jones
Disingenuous, fake, false, broke back, twisted, a defiler, a betrayer, a backstabber, a devil!
You will pay.
Yeah, you think I don't see your face gone?
jordan holmes
Is he still praying?
Or did he end the prayer?
alex jones
I see you.
unidentified
You understand me?
jordan holmes
I forgot.
alex jones
I know what you think of me and my family.
I see you right back.
You understand that?
You understand that, Delta?
Stelter.
unidentified
You asshole!
alex jones
You will not bring humanity down!
God is going to destroy you.
Get him off the screen.
unidentified
God, they're so evil.
alex jones
Just please God, free us from them.
jordan holmes
Free us.
unidentified
Come on, God.
alex jones
They're drunk on our children's blood for God's sake.
dan friesen
So this is an illustrative moment.
When Alex is saying all this shit about Stelter, none of it has any connection to reality.
It's just Alex trying to put some kind of an elevated appearance onto his petulant anger.
He knows well enough that if he got on his show and started yelling and lashing out about how he doesn't like people being critical of him his audience would rightly see him as the weak child he is inside.
By masking that immature insecurity with over-the-top pronouncements about Stelter probably being a pedophile and how he's a betrayer whatever that means Alex is able to protect himself from being seen for what he is which is a hypersensitive loser.
Now, the issue is that the audience doesn't really realize that they're just watching Alex play out a psychodrama on air and may think that he's actually saying something about Stelter as opposed to just yelling about his own hurt feelings.
They form opinions, post things on social media, and even harass Stelter over things that Alex says as if there was anything behind it other than Alex being a baby with a boo-boo.
Anyway, I probably would have played a different clip on this episode if I were him.
Seems dumb to portray Stelter as some kind of a big, high-level, big bad guy the day after his show ended with no real pushback or fanfare.
Seems like that should have been a much harder-fought victory, if anything Alex was saying meant anything.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He got fired.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, no, no.
dan friesen
The show got canceled.
jordan holmes
I mean, here's the problem.
Here's the problem.
dan friesen
It's just a show.
jordan holmes
When you choose your enemies, you know, to be of the demonic realm, you know, like, you think TV is a great choice because it's so big and it's so, you know, like, oh, it's TV.
But it's really not that big.
It's not as big as you might think because you can just get fired.
Like, you can't claim that if you...
Didn't get the job at a Denny's.
You can't claim that the manager is the Antichrist.
Because eventually he's just not going to be the manager anymore.
The manager can't be...
dan friesen
You can't fire the Antichrist.
It's like the shift supervisor.
jordan holmes
He's a fry cook.
He's not the Antichrist.
dan friesen
I used to work at a Dairy Queen when I was like 15. And the guy who was the burger guy, he was a Satanist.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, that's great.
unidentified
So, counterpoint to your argument.
jordan holmes
Well, now you've brought that piece of information to light, I do retract my statements.
dan friesen
Take that.
So, uh, Alex just played that old Stelter rant, and he's feeling good about it.
Everything, you know, like, you gotta bask in your work.
jordan holmes
No, it reminded me of that time that, you remember Hannibal's bit where he played his own joke and just vibed with it as, uh, yeah, it reminded me of that quite a bit.
dan friesen
Um, so here Alex lets us in on a little media secret.
alex jones
And I can tell you, that little rant's not my best Brian Stelter rant, but I'm told that that is shown in the newsrooms for years.
Every week as the Resistance.
In fact, you want a little Tucker Carlson inside?
Dope.
That is required viewing at least once a week.
So that's a little gift to old Tucky.
dan friesen
Even that's brainwashing.
I mean, honestly, I don't believe it's true, but if it is true, that's brainwashing that they're doing a Tucker show, or they're laughing at him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I feel like as far as ways to end your five o 'clock on a Friday, you know, instead of doing the whistle, you just start playing that clip, and you're gonna leave with a bit of a smile.
Alright, I think I can go get drinks now.
dan friesen
It's happy hour.
But that's only, like, really funny to you because you haven't heard that in a long time.
jordan holmes
It has been a while.
dan friesen
If you watch that every week, it would get really annoying.
jordan holmes
Eh, you know, I don't think you watch it every week, but you play it over the PA.
dan friesen
I love this, though.
Like, all of Tucker's employees have to watch this once a week so they can keep their head in the game.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
So they can understand what it's like to resist.
They can watch me fake being nauseous looking at Stelter.
jordan holmes
Okay, I understand.
dan friesen
Yell about demons.
jordan holmes
I'm the key grip.
Do I really need to watch?
No, but I mean all I...
dan friesen
It's in your contract.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
I hate this show.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Hannity's people have to watch it once a month.
That's why they're not so hardcore.
unidentified
Hannity!
dan friesen
So a caller calls in.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he wants to know how Alex finds the time to read so much.
This is a bummer.
unidentified
I wanted to say I'm very excited when your new book comes out at the end of the month.
Now, I admit that I normally read Kindle books and am highly addicted to the Internet.
And my cell phone is always amazing, like so many of us are.
By ordering your hard book, and I can't wait to read the physical book, it made me have an epiphany that I'm so bombarded with information, I'll admit I'm in a trance of a low attention span.
Now, you read so much, sir.
You digest so much information.
I would love if you could share with me and the audience how you find so much time to read, suggestions on how we can use the Internet, use our cell phones, in a way that promotes enlightenment, but also a way that promotes a long-term attention span.
Do you speed read, or what would you recommend to focus our attention span so we can...
Take the time to read entire books.
Do we have a cyber-free Sunday?
Get away from the internet.
How do you recommend, because it's a strong part of the information war, to manage information, sir?
alex jones
Well, when you study the globalists, it's a really good question.
We could talk for days about it.
You could have a whole college course on it or a whole degree in it.
They have the same programs over and over again.
So once you know their operations, you just see the same permutation of it over and over again.
So that's not hard.
They're like, oh, I've seen this press release before.
I've seen that before.
There's only a few dozen things they do.
There's only a few dozen plays they have.
dan friesen
So this reminds me of a conversation I had with a comic years ago who was really proud of their ability to do crowd work and respond to hecklers.
In reality, they weren't that good, but they were very confident, and they explained to me that there are only a few possible types of responses you need to be ready to have.
You can respond to something with an angry slash mean retort, a nice retort, or a confused retort.
As long as you had one of each of these in your pocket ready to go, you could respond to just about anything an audience can throw at you.
jordan holmes
The rock-paper-scissors theory of stand-up comedy.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's all good and well, but what it's actually doing is taking the act of responding in the moment on stage and reducing it to a parlor trick.
You're creating the illusion of being in the moment and fast on your feet.
You're faking being clever because you know that you aren't clever enough to be it for real and you're terrified of being seen as not clever and getting caught in the moment of being like, oh, I don't know what to say.
This is kind of what Alex is doing with this globalist playbook idea.
He's constructed a couple of stock responses to world events that he's decided to call the globalist playbook and it's basically just his crutch so he never has to appear like he doesn't know what's going on.
Think of a tragic event as the equivalent of someone heckling in terms of how to interpret Alex's show and the narrative.
He needs to be able to respond to it quickly, or else he'll risk showing weakness to the audience.
So just like that comic I knew, Alex has preloaded responses to stuff.
Instead of angry, nice, or confused retorts, Alex has things like false flag, it was secretly Antifa, or elaborate deep state plotting.
These are go-to responses he can whip out to apply to any situation, and he can then rationalize based on some detail and be like, oh, this is...
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex has nothing to say, and he hasn't read anything.
It's pretty telling that this guy asks this question, and Alex's first response isn't that he reads all day every day, because I think even he would know that that's silly.
His response is just that he knows everything already, so he can see things happening in the world and then make stories up about them.
Considering Alex's track record of being super wrong about almost everything he's ever called a play from the Globalist playbook, this should really worry the caller and the audience, but they're not paying attention.
Alex satisfies their emotional needs with rants like the one about Stelter, and their need to feel like a part of something important with the nonsense about fighting Yeah, that caller scares me a lot, because...
jordan holmes
He sounded so rational and so sane and had a clear thought process.
But if you listen to that, that's the most insane thing anybody's ever said.
That's the most insane thing.
dan friesen
That Alex reads a lot?
jordan holmes
That Alex reads a lot.
Like, how do you do it?
That's an insane thing to say to Alex Jones.
That's more insane than...
I swear to you, I would rather...
I believe more that raptors would eat chocolate than I do that Alex reads well.
dan friesen
What do you believe more?
Alex reads a lot or Alex had a vision from God over chicken fried steak?
jordan holmes
I believe the second one more than Alex reads.
At least the second one is possible.
dan friesen
Yeah, because Alex is a passive participant.
unidentified
Exactly.
jordan holmes
It requires no effort on his part.
dan friesen
Yeah, fair enough.
jordan holmes
I can't prove that God doesn't speak through chicken fried steak.
I can prove he doesn't read.
dan friesen
It could have been a great chicken fried steak.
jordan holmes
It could have been great.
dan friesen
Alex should work out a deal with that company.
For advertising, because this is making those steak and iced tea sound really good.
jordan holmes
It'll give you a message from God.
dan friesen
So Alex goes on to explain his work process to this caller.
jordan holmes
Oh my God, no.
alex jones
But really what I do is, I scan InfoWars, I scan a bunch of mainline sites, I scan legislation, I go and look at what Jack Posobiec's saying, I look at what Mike Cernovich is saying, I look at what Ron Paul's saying, what Senator Paul's saying, I look at what DeSantis is saying, and I just quickly...
Scan through all of that, but I already know the globalist agenda from reading their books, reading Klaus Schwab's statements, and knowing what they're doing.
And I really go back to the key books written by the population controllers and the statements put out by Brzezinski and the books written by Brzezinski and Henry Kissinger and the program.
And so once you know that, it's pretty much reading the same thing over and over again.
And so that's where we are.
Lawlessness.
Collapse of society.
dan friesen
This would be a huge red flag to anybody who's listening to Alex's show.
I mean, like, he has basically these old texts.
That I don't know if he's even read or not, or if he's just, like, taking them in by way of, like, John Birch society literature that demonized those books.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
I think that's more likely.
jordan holmes
They're more part of the lore than they are actually read.
dan friesen
Yes, yes.
And, like, he talks about, like, Ecoscience by John P. Holder, and you haven't read that fucking textbook.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out of here.
dan friesen
Get out.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, and then his workflow is just like...
I skim my own website.
jordan holmes
Isn't that what he's saying?
dan friesen
I skim some other websites, and then I go check the Twitter accounts of shitheads like Posobiec and Cernovich.
jordan holmes
I mean...
dan friesen
That's not great.
jordan holmes
In the context of the rationality of the question that he is responding to, of which I do...
I mean, that idea, like, oh, should we have a Cyber Sunday where we get rid of all of our things and actually just fucking read books?
That's not a terrible idea!
dan friesen
Not really.
jordan holmes
I'm fine with that.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
To respond to that with...
Here's what I do.
I skim shit, and then I just kind of get the vibe of how people are talking about it, and then I go with crazy.
dan friesen
I see if Posobiec and Sernovich and Ron Paul and DeSantis are putting out talking points.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean it is.
dan friesen
And then I just double down on the things that those extremist shitheads are doing.
jordan holmes
I grab what they say, and then I go plus one on the crazy, and that's my job.
dan friesen
And I start the day by looking at my own website that I pay people to write.
Sure.
So I'm responding to people who are paid to write things that will tickle me, I guess.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That's a bizarre circle.
That's an Ouroboros of bullshit.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
So what I did is I created...
Like, okay, do you remember Elvis' group of yes men that always said yes around Elvis?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
So I turned that into a job.
Ah, now it's their job to say yes to everything I have to say.
dan friesen
So Alex...
Alex gets to thinking about what he needs to do.
And there's one thing that he needs to do.
jordan holmes
Read?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Oh.
dan friesen
Pray with his dad.
unidentified
You know, again, I appreciate what you do, and I know that you speak about Jesus, and I just want to remind people to not give up hope.
There really is an answer out there, but we have to keep fighting.
We must operate in discernment, I believe, in these days.
We must prepare our house.
That's what I'm telling my friends.
I say, you've got to do what you can naturally to prepare your house, but also spiritually.
You've got to prepare your house.
alex jones
No, I totally agree, and I'm going to tell a personal story right now.
I'm never told, because the Holy Spirit wants me to.
There's been three times in my life where I was under incredible attack, and I went to see my dad, and where we prayed, and literally within hours it happened.
jordan holmes
He wrote you a check.
alex jones
And there's something really special about believers coming together, but also men and women coming together, and family members.
And I'm going to pray with my father this weekend for awakening and victory.
Because I don't know all the ways of God, but it's just powerful.
Because our ancestors did so much before us.
And by praying with your father or your mother, it connects to the people before you.
And it's incredible.
In fact, I'm going to pray with my father and my mother this weekend.
Let's all confirm we have fathers and mothers left with us.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
Or our family members.
There's something particularly electromagnetic.
jordan holmes
Let's all confirm that.
alex jones
Religious, spiritual.
About that.
Do you hear what I'm saying?
He's gone.
unidentified
Must have been a spirit.
alex jones
Take him back to that place.
Where I was really under attack like eight years ago.
I was out with my dad's backyard by his pool.
I said, Dad, I want you to pray with me.
I remember he just put his hands in mine.
jordan holmes
Who'd you knock up this time, son?
alex jones
I knew when we made that prayer it was going to happen.
It was in alignment with God.
And we have to do that now.
My hands are just like this.
He put his hands in mine.
And we made the circuit of the past, the present, and the future.
And that's why these Satanists hate us, because we have that power, and we're not using that power.
unidentified
Oh, man.
alex jones
Howie in New Jersey.
dan friesen
Howie thinks about that?
alex jones
Wow.
jordan holmes
What a ride.
What a fucking ride.
dan friesen
Also, if it's the past, present, and future, shouldn't your son have also been involved in the prayer?
jordan holmes
No, he doesn't give a shit about his own kids.
dan friesen
Alex is the present and the future.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
This is...
Okay.
dan friesen
I like, too, though, the idea that eventually...
I mean, I don't look...
I don't wish this upon him or anything, but eventually Alex's dad is going to pass away.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's how it works.
dan friesen
And then Alex will put out a Luther Vandross-style...
Pray With My Father.
jordan holmes
I think that would be...
dan friesen
Like the Dance With My Father song.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I could see that.
I could see that.
Put some prayers on an album.
dan friesen
If I could pray with my father one more time.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
That's what you do.
That's what Alex does.
Deathbed prayers.
Records them with his dad.
That'll give everybody the magical energy of a father and son.
dan friesen
Sure, the closed circuit.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
With that closed circuit energy, you got some money to be made, my friend.
dan friesen
Alex's son is like, Dad, let me hold your hand and pray.
No!
I will not be the past with this closed circuit.
jordan holmes
I am the present and the future!
I will eat your soul, son!
dan friesen
You will not steal my vitality and youth.
Yep.
So Alex gets another call.
unidentified
Hey, Alex, I just wanted to say, like, the Saxe-Coburg-Gotha family that you talk about, they are an RH negative bloodline.
They're actually from Ukraine.
jordan holmes
Sorry, what now?
unidentified
They're what people call fallen angels.
Like you say, fallen.
jordan holmes
Sure.
unidentified
Well, it's funny you say that.
alex jones
They believe they're their own species.
jordan holmes
Right.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, they took over the Saxons of Germany.
The direction is right.
I think they went from Ukraine to Germany and took over the Saxons.
And the Anglos are the angels.
jordan holmes
Sounds right.
unidentified
The fallen angels, the demons that have merged into the actual, the true humans or the true humanity.
They've grafted themselves into it.
And they took over the Netherlands, too.
And that's where, like, the West India Company is pretty much the basis for the evil side of the American colonization, really.
Like you say, Anderson Cooper is the extension of the Vanderbilts, and the Vanderbilts are just an extension of the West India Company.
And I know parasites just live in colonies, even in your body.
That's why they need to get your products, you know, get your parasite cleansed and everything like that.
dan friesen
Smooth into a plug right there.
That is pretty good.
jordan holmes
I mean, here's my take on this.
Sir, that's too much.
That's too much.
You know what?
Normally I'm cool with conspiracy people.
I'm Alex Jones.
But that's too much.
You gotta go talk to somebody about that.
That's too much!
dan friesen
Yeah.
The Sax Cobra Gotha are fallen angels.
unidentified
Too much.
jordan holmes
Too much already.
dan friesen
Who took over the Anglos who are angels.
jordan holmes
See, that's already another too much.
dan friesen
Mixing with the real humans.
jordan holmes
Why did they do that?
dan friesen
This is the Nephilim type stuff probably.
Giants.
jordan holmes
And they had to go to the Netherlands?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then maybe the West Indy company.
jordan holmes
That's the secret one.
Yeah, that's the one that's underground.
dan friesen
The Dutch East India company, I guess, is related to the Vanderbilts because they're both of Dutch descent.
jordan holmes
Duh.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Yeah, see, I think we nailed it.
No, actually, sir, that's too much.
Go talk to somebody.
dan friesen
Well, the Dutch East India Company dissolved around the time that Cornelius Vanderbilt, sort of the founder of that family's great fortune, was a child.
jordan holmes
In the U.S. Right, but didn't they defeat the Anglo-Saxons and then absorb them into their powers, thus gaining angel and saxo powers?
dan friesen
I'm afraid you are much mistaken.
jordan holmes
Am I mistaken about this?
dan friesen
That was the Lombat aliens.
jordan holmes
Oh, goddamn Lombats!
dan friesen
Yeah, the Lombat aliens.
jordan holmes
How about the Mighty Ducks?
Are they still doing okay?
dan friesen
The Mighty Duck aliens are.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Alex gets another call who's a little spiritual.
unidentified
I enjoy your product, and I look forward to receiving your product.
Alex, this is a message for all the infiltrators, the FBI, the CIA, the New World Order, Chris Schwab and his economic forum who are listening right now.
I love you, first of all, Alex.
First of all, we are decentralizing, Infowars is decentralizing your power and control.
Alex Jones, you have been chosen by our Lord to be the leader in the front.
You are the member of the body.
You represent the body against the left.
And the right wing who are taking us, who are manipulating us in the direction that they have been using to maintain control.
George Washington warned us against the power of political parties in replacing our nationality.
You're standing up against them.
You have been chosen.
The majority of the masses support Infowars.
Obviously, there are those who are against you, but they cannot stand against the masses of us because we are using the power of our Lord, which is through quantum communication.
alex jones
Brother, I totally want you to continue, but what do you make of Klaus Schwab declaring information warfare against us and saying he's going to launch InfoWarriors?
I mean, they are scared.
unidentified
Yeah, they are.
dan friesen
Yeah, totally.
I guess this guy doesn't know that it's two years old.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Neither does the Lord.
Did you ever notice how the Lord is exactly as dumb as the person talking about him?
dan friesen
Yeah, the deity has the information that the individual has.
unidentified
So weird.
jordan holmes
You'd think they would have more.
dan friesen
Well, but Alex only knows what the Lord wants him to know, because the data download that was magically imparted upon him.
jordan holmes
Oh man, that was such a good out.
Good call, Lord.
You got me on this one.
dan friesen
So apparently Alex is chosen as a leader by God, and the majority of the United States supports Infowars.
jordan holmes
The masses.
dan friesen
That's absolutely not true.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that seems like a lot for the masses to have changed in just a short period of time.
dan friesen
In my experience, obviously, professionally, you can't really judge the temperature of Alex, because I run in circles that are pretty anti-InfoWars.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
And so I put that to the side.
And there are a number of people that I interact with, just whether it's...
Somebody in a service capacity or, you know, just a random person.
And generally, you know, if anybody asks me, you know, sometimes Lyft drivers, for instance.
jordan holmes
Sure, I've been there.
dan friesen
They'll ask me, like, what I do, and I'll explain it.
And usually it's Alex Jones who.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, most of the time.
There was that one guy in Austin who was a fan.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But other than that...
jordan holmes
The masses have really not...
Just a low level of support for Alex so much as they have no idea who that motherfucker is!
dan friesen
Yeah, and that guy in Austin sticks out in the memory because he was the one person that I have encountered in the wild, really, that has been somebody who is an Infowars supporter.
I think generally it's people who have no idea...
And maybe would be like, oh, he's that guy.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He's that guy who, like, big Trump guy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
He's that guy who was a January 6th or something.
jordan holmes
Alex is not Star-Lord.
He is a character actor in this show.
He's a guy who pops up.
dan friesen
He's an extra to most people.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
He's the deity-appointed leader to his fans.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And a fucking child with a boo-boo to most people who...
Pay attention.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex said he was going to have a guest.
And he does.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But it's not a guest.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
Well, my old friend Greg Reese, the great researcher, is in studio with us.
I saw him yesterday and gave him a hug.
I was busy.
He was busy.
He only talked for like a minute.
dan friesen
That's not a guest.
He's your employee.
He's a guy who works at Infowars.
He's not a guest!
jordan holmes
Does Alex know that?
Yes!
Yeah, but I mean, with the rotating cast of people.
dan friesen
No, he knows for sure, because Greg Reese, Alex plays his reports all the time on the show.
Talks about how each one is the best that's ever been made.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And if you go to band.video, you'll find that his videos get significantly more traffic than even like Owen or Harrison Smith's stuff.
So like, Alex is...
Somebody who's nothing if not motivated by traction.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
And Greg gets a fair amount.
unidentified
That's fair.
dan friesen
Because his videos are pretty slickly done.
jordan holmes
He shows competence in certain aspects.
dan friesen
I winced at that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I did see that.
dan friesen
Yeah, I wouldn't say that.
Maybe in terms of editing, there's some competence there.
His voiceover I find incredibly boring.
Jarring to listen to.
And the stuff that he says is just stupid.
Like this!
He has an idea.
I want to see if you can come up with some ways this idea might go bad.
greg reese
I think everyone in the world is starting to wake up to that fact right now, that the Federal Reserve fiat currency system is what's responsible for all the problems in the world right now.
jordan holmes
Sounds right.
greg reese
And people are talking about silver and gold mines going into private business as banks, since they have the vaults already, and they tie a crypto card to gold and silver.
The private market, the free private market can just compete for people's trust and serviceability and start creating a parallel banking system.
alex jones
So the end of their systems here, they're trying to rope us in.
Instead of them going to prison, they get more power.
greg reese
What they want is they want to toss us an idea of some type of digital fiat currency as if, I mean, only a fool is going to accept anything that they take after all of the death and destruction that they've caused for decades and decades.
But that's obviously the plan.
dan friesen
Didn't Alex just get 8 million in Bitcoin?
Look...
This is a dumb idea.
jordan holmes
No.
No, no, no.
You don't understand.
He just invented mining towns.
It makes perfect sense.
All right.
Here's what we do.
All right.
We go all the way to the west, okay?
We get a covered wagon together.
We get all buds together.
We build a little tent.
We open up our own general store around the mine, and people will pay us with the gold that they recently banned out of the river.
dan friesen
The only people who could really afford to run that store anyway are the people.
I think that's a great idea.
jordan holmes
They should actually give their own currency out.
They guarantee using their money, so you can only buy the stuff.
dan friesen
I think that's implied.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a smart move.
dan friesen
This is wild.
I mean, also, just logistically, I think that people who have a lot of resources right now are going to be able to buy those mines.
And I think you'll end up with probably oligarchs of mine banks who will be able to maybe set...
Unregulated, by the way.
That's also definitely an implied part of the system.
jordan holmes
There is no government regulation over this.
No, no, absolutely not.
dan friesen
There's so many opportunities for abuse of this system.
It's almost...
Parody of itself.
jordan holmes
I appreciate it when tech bros and all those stupid people invent things that we already invented a long time ago and then they put a new name on it and you're like, oh, you're a genius!
You know, like that kind of thing.
I really don't appreciate it whenever we do have like a history where people did the step-by-step thing that you're recommending and you can go back and you can read about how it turned out.
You can just read about it.
It's there.
It happened before.
dan friesen
Yeah, and it was bad.
jordan holmes
It was so bad.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's why we had to not do it.
jordan holmes
We had to stop doing it.
Why are you going like, oh, no, no, I've got an idea.
That bad thing we did that led to everybody dying in the Great Depression and all that shit?
Ha ha ha, but what if?
dan friesen
What if?
jordan holmes
We did it again.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Greg's got another dumb thing to say.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
Big picture, you're a smart guy.
I really respect your opinion.
unidentified
Lies.
alex jones
We play your reports every week.
People love you.
Why are you optimistic?
Where do you think we are historically?
greg reese
I think the test is clear.
I think we're being offered.
It's offering acceptance.
And they've been doing this for years.
They're offering us slavery.
They've actually started to offer us slavery years ago.
I think they started to make us that offer right after the Revolutionary War to try to rope us back into it.
And ultimately, it's our choice.
Ultimately, we don't have to be slaves.
We could actually become independent, become responsible.
dan friesen
If they're offering you slavery, that's not really slavery.
jordan holmes
That's not really how it works.
dan friesen
And back at the Revolutionary War, guess what?
Some people were not offered slavery so much as...
jordan holmes
They were forced into it.
Yeah.
Generations.
dan friesen
What are we even talking about?
jordan holmes
These people are so stupid.
It's just so amazing.
dan friesen
We're being offered slavery.
jordan holmes
How do you get to say these things?
How is that allowed?
dan friesen
Meh.
You work at InfoWars.
jordan holmes
You know, I...
People are like, oh, shamed for not going to college.
I swear to God, you should be shamed for not reading comprehension in fourth grade.
That's what should be happening here.
dan friesen
Well, I think that they can read, and there's some reading comprehension.
There's just, like, I don't know what you're reading.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Maybe you're just reading shit.
jordan holmes
Wingdings!
I think they're just...
I think when they read a real book, it's just a bunch of...
It's like...
It's like what?
Bork.
dan friesen
Or you're just suspicious of everything you read.
And so when you read a line that says X, you're like, well, maybe it's trying to trick me into thinking X. Maybe what this book is actually saying is Y. Why is it that nobody believes in the double bluff of books?
jordan holmes
They're like, ah, they think you're tricking you, but they're actually telling the truth.
The double bluff!
dan friesen
What about the triple bluff?
jordan holmes
Oh, you can't trust the triple bluff.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
So anyway, researcher, great mind, Greg Reese.
greg reese
The reason I believe that we're going to win is because you can see that the way they've had this thing all planned, they weren't expecting this much pushback.
They weren't expecting this much fines.
They were definitely expecting more people to take the vaccine, which tells me that...
alex jones
Oh, Klaus Schwab comes out and says...
Today, we've hired 110,000 info warriors.
They use our term.
greg reese
Right.
alex jones
To counter the disinfo.
greg reese
Right.
unidentified
Right.
greg reese
I mean, they're desperate.
dan friesen
Yeah, just going along with Alex's bullshit story about a two-year-old podcast that he's now saying Klaus Schwab said.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And making it all about himself, which wasn't.
No, you're right.
Unless you identify solely with the idea of misinformation.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And, yeah, Greg Reese, just going along to get along.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, that is such a weird example of just total capture.
greg reese
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, just like...
Hey, the sky is orange.
The sky is not just orange.
dan friesen
You bet it is.
jordan holmes
It's green and orange.
Yeah, totally.
Now it's striped like the flag of India.
dan friesen
It's nuts.
It just changed.
jordan holmes
It's so crazy.
And you're like, oh, wow.
There's just no bottom.
None.
dan friesen
Fact capture.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So, look, these people love the individual.
They're so into individualism.
They think that you are the greatest thing and God is, like, working through you.
jordan holmes
And that's why they do whatever Alex tells them to do.
Individuality.
dan friesen
And also, maybe some people are so dumb that we need leaders.
greg reese
If you were to tell me, you know, three, four years ago that we need leadership, I might have argued that.
But after seeing COVID and realizing that a large amount of the population is sheep-like...
We need, out of respect and love for our fellow man, we do need leadership.
alex jones
Well, that's right.
As leaders, we don't want to lead people.
We want them to be leaders.
But if they're going to be under the control of evil people, we've got to not control them, but lead by example.
greg reese
Be the good shepherd.
That's what we have to be.
dan friesen
We want people to be independent and lead themselves, but if they believe things that are different to what we believe, we must, for their own good, lead them.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
As a good shepherd.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No, I don't understand why people don't understand that religion is great.
If people don't believe what you have to say, you torture them until they do.
dan friesen
It's benevolent torture.
jordan holmes
Why isn't this obvious?
It's the way that God meant things to run!
The Lord gave me a message!
dan friesen
And to be fair, I mean, I do think that we need leadership as well.
Not because I think people are too dumb to lead themselves or anything.
I think that there are other benefits that we gain through leadership.
Things like morale.
Things like feeling connected to each other.
There are all kinds of benefits.
But the way that they're looking at it has a real...
Patronizing view of just the public.
Which makes sense.
They don't care about people.
They don't think people are great.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
It's nonsense.
jordan holmes
No, they don't want somebody who's a leader who's going to listen to the people, who's going to synthesize information, and then ultimately is going to take responsibility for the decision that they make.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
That's called leadership.
dan friesen
Yeah, and another thing that's great in leadership is providing hope.
Yeah.
Providing a message that people can rally behind.
jordan holmes
Now, one other form of leadership you could consider would be something along the lines of an iron-fisted dictatorship.
Now, is that leadership?
dan friesen
It's a good shepherd.
jordan holmes
Well, it's a shepherd of sorts.
dan friesen
It's an effective shepherd.
jordan holmes
I don't think that's true.
dan friesen
So you like beef?
jordan holmes
Not if it's shepherded wrong.
dan friesen
Well, Alex loves beef.
jordan holmes
Okay.
greg reese
Beef.
Is actually one of the most nutritious.
I mean, it's the sacred cow.
It's a life-sustaining source.
jordan holmes
Do you not know what the sacred cow thing means?
greg reese
Everything that's alive is only alive because it's consumed.
alex jones
And a cow eats grass and it's self-fulfilling.
It feeds you beef.
The Bible, Genesis starts talking about beef.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
What?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Greg's just going along with whatever.
jordan holmes
Whatever.
Just whatever.
dan friesen
So I think that Greg is trying to point to the idea that cows are sacred in Hindu culture, which is dumb because they're specifically, like, they don't slaughter and eat cows because they're considered sacred.
jordan holmes
That's the sacred cow.
dan friesen
Yeah.
They aren't sacred because beef is delicious.
jordan holmes
Because they fucking love it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This is the steak of steaks.
dan friesen
Also, Genesis does not start by talking about beef.
jordan holmes
Beef!
It's what's for dinner, sayeth the Lord!
dan friesen
It starts with God existing in a void of form.
nothingness and creating the earth and light and all that stuff yeah it's not until genesis 1 24 that land animals are created and that's after birds and quite a bit after vegetables sure there's no mention of beef but humans are said to be lords over the natural world interestingly though god does say quote i give you every seed bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it they will be yours for food
Anyway, the Bible doesn't start with a passage about beef, and it's really embarrassing for Greg to just yes-and that shit.
Who cares?
Fact capture.
jordan holmes
The irony is that the first real discussion regarding beef ends with a murder.
dan friesen
That's in the next book, or next chapter.
jordan holmes
The first big, like, what's beef about?
Murder!
Seems pretty obvious from the get-go, huh?
dan friesen
It's also, it's for dinner!
You already said that.
Catchphrase marketing.
Anyway, we get back to the sacred cow idea, and Greg has...
jordan holmes
The wrong idea about the sacred cow.
dan friesen
Kind of, but he actually even has it worse wrong.
jordan holmes
Okay.
greg reese
You know, I'm doing the report on that now, and one of the interesting things, there's a myth of, like, vegetarianism is sort of connected to yoga.
And there's a bunch of, you know, yoga's so popular, and there's all these vegans into that.
But that's a whole myth, because if you actually look at that, that was based on the caste system.
Vegetarians were just the lower caste.
jordan holmes
Please explain Indian culture to me.
greg reese
The warrior class and the priest class were given meat.
And the only reason the lower castes were given vegetarian meals was so that they could save the meat for the upper class.
alex jones
Exactly, that's in the Vedic scriptures.
greg reese
And that's all they're trying to do now.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, what did you just say?
dan friesen
So there are definitely some connections between the caste system and rates of vegetarianism and traditional Indian culture, but what Greg is doing is oversimplifying things in a way that is specifically designed to compare one-to-one with modern-day Infowars talking points, like how Klaus Schwab wants you to eat bugs.
Many of the lower classes We're not...
So they wouldn't have been concerned with the dietary restrictions that largely stemmed from Hindu beliefs and nonviolence.
Conversely, many of the Brahmins were actually, you know, their priests and members of the scholarly class, and as you might expect, they were more observant people in terms of Hinduism.
The phenomenon you see when you look at historical trends related to the caste system and vegetarianism is actually that the higher someone is in caste, the more likely they are to be vegetarian.
It's actually the reverse of what Greg is saying.
But this doesn't work for the Klaus Schwab wants you to eat bugs thing.
So he's pretending that there's no Hindu belief in this do no harm thing.
And they're just trying to trick poor people into eating plants so they could save the cows for themselves.
jordan holmes
I do recall reading the Upanishads and thinking, man, this is all about how the rich need jets.
unidentified
That's what it is.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's what it is.
dan friesen
The argument that Greg is making is absurd.
But the reality of this dynamic is actually far more complicated.
And even the picture that I've described.
And I'm not doing justice to the nuances of how this plays out in tradition and the present day in India.
There's a lot of...
jordan holmes
The Indian subcontinent has a history that is almost impossible to unravel.
It's incredible.
dan friesen
It's very, very complex.
But the notion that it's like, oh, they were just tricking the poor people into eating vegetables so they could keep the cows for themselves.
jordan holmes
Works for me.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
Write it on the board.
That sounds true.
dan friesen
It's in the Vedic scriptures.
jordan holmes
It's in the Vedic...
Come on!
You don't know it's in the Vedic scriptures?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Greg...
jordan holmes
Eddie Veda?
dan friesen
Greg thinks back to his time beginning at Infowars.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And honestly, I think that what he does here is he isolates a real serious problem.
greg reese
You know, when I first came here, you know, four years ago, I'm a...
Very open-minded, very skeptical, suspicious person.
And I've heard all the common stories about, you know, controlled opposition and everything.
So who knows?
But what I got here, I was just basically told to try to pick a story that I think is important and do my best to get it right and stick to the truth.
And that was it.
And I remember asking Rob when he told me that.
I was like, shouldn't I show it to anyone first to make sure that it's approved?
And he just looked at me almost with disgust and said, We don't have time for that, you know?
And that's true.
Everyone out here, we're working constantly.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
alex jones
We saw your work.
We chose you because we believe in you.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
We have no time for quality control.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
We have no time to check anything to see if it's full of shit.
jordan holmes
Wow.
Wow.
dan friesen
That's a bad process.
jordan holmes
Is there an employee handbook, or can I at least train with somebody?
No!
Find a story!
Put it out!
dan friesen
Well, technically there's an employee handbook, but it's just boilerplate.
We just copied it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we stole it from reliable sources.
dan friesen
We did Control-F for reliable sources and put InfoWars in.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I would think that one of the things that could aid InfoWars the most...
Actually, I take that back, because it would completely destroy the process.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say, you're...
You're misunderstanding their business model.
dan friesen
Nothing would get on air.
Nothing.
What are you talking about?
jordan holmes
If someone said, hey, hold on, you wanna, they would quit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Definitely.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's the thing that they really are, you know, we talk about how they're lying and they don't give a shit and they're making everything up.
But what we're really not talking about is if they did face any challenge on the way to publishing one of those stories, they would give up and they would do a different story.
dan friesen
That's probably true.
And I think that they not only lie and make all this shit up, they've also constructed a system that aids that.
They've constructed a system that is complicit and complementary to making shit up.
jordan holmes
No, no.
It is a little bit like when you see apes put a stick in a tree and then ants come off it and you're like, you guys figured that out all on your own.
That's fucking amazing.
dan friesen
You figured out that no quality control means...
jordan holmes
You get ants from your stick.
dan friesen
Exactly.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So, Greg's dumb.
greg reese
I believe that this is the most...
Divine inspired job I've ever had in my life.
I've never felt, name your other job, so purposeful in my life.
And it's interesting because the majority of my life, I was very aware that I was lacking a sense of purpose.
And for the past four years, I feel like I've been doing God's work and it's been extremely humbling.
alex jones
We believe in humanity, so we believe you believe in humanity.
We're fighting for our survival.
We think anybody should just join us.
greg reese
Yes.
alex jones
Why would you not join us?
greg reese
Right.
dan friesen
Almost everything you say.
ari shaffir
That's why I wouldn't join him.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
Also, I think you're full of shit about caring about humanity, so I don't take much stock in that either.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, a lot of reasons not to join you, Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
A lot of talk about divine ordainment surrounding various Infowars stuff on this episode that I find real troubling.
jordan holmes
You know what?
The thought occurs.
All right.
Maybe Infowars doesn't have a handbook.
Alright.
But there is a handbook that they're supposed to follow.
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
And that book is the Bible.
And those motherfuckers haven't read that.
Because the Bible is very clear on the story isn't just stick to the truth as close as you can and we don't have time to work out the kinks.
dan friesen
Well, I think they have not gotten past the beef part yet.
jordan holmes
Nah, that is a good part.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It really sets the stage.
dan friesen
There's so much to get through.
Brisket.
Right, right.
jordan holmes
We haven't even gotten it.
I mean, hey, later on, did you know that the Pope classified a beaver as a fish?
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know why?
Fridays, couldn't eat fish.
dan friesen
Genesis chapter 3 is all about beaver fish.
jordan holmes
Wanted some beaver fish.
dan friesen
So, the devil.
jordan holmes
What about him?
dan friesen
Unloyal.
alex jones
Don't they get, they're going to be left with the bill?
greg reese
Well, that's the thing, you know, that shows you.
How loyal the devil is.
Because all these people, a lot of these people, the Pelosi's and all these people, they've dedicated their lives to this evil force.
And what are they getting returned?
They're just getting put out to pasture and used one last time.
jordan holmes
They're having a great time.
greg reese
There's no loyalty.
jordan holmes
Pelosi has a hundred million dollars.
alex jones
And all there is is loyalty.
They don't even get it.
greg reese
No.
dan friesen
Where's David Knight?
Where's Millie Weaver?
Where's any of your old employees?
jordan holmes
All there is is loyalty.
dan friesen
All there is is loyalty.
jordan holmes
And they were disloyal, so they must be tossed into the sun.
dan friesen
Ah, I see, I see.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you see, loyalty only flows one way.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Loyalty does not go both ways.
Loyalty is not a two-way street, my friend.
dan friesen
I think that Alex is not a good example of loyalty.
jordan holmes
Loyalty.
Yeah.
Loyalty.
Think about all the names that he...
Can't get away.
You know, Jakari calls him up every weekend.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm so loyal.
I want to try and help you find a new gig, Jakari.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Very loyal.
dan friesen
I mean, he couldn't even remember Jason Burmus.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
On the stand or when he's talking about his early career, his early broadcasting.
jordan holmes
Metaphorically speaking, gun to his head, he could not remember Burmus.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Sad.
Disloyal, some might say.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Devil's looking pretty nice in comparison, honestly.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
He gave Pelosi $100 million.
Jakari didn't get shit.
dan friesen
So Alex is, I think, some of this divine ordained business is going to his head a little bit.
jordan holmes
Oh, you think?
dan friesen
Yeah.
This is really fucked up.
greg reese
You know, Josh, we're really at the peak of all this right now.
And the way I see it, total victory is going to be to where InfoWars can exit.
Appropriately to the point where we're no longer needed and we can bow out.
alex jones
That's my vision.
jordan holmes
Company man.
greg reese
So at this point is when we need the most support.
They see our defeat as the defeat of the populist movement.
And so it's very symbolic.
And so that's how I see victory.
alex jones
And I actually see us pushing all the way and being destroyed publicly as Christ-like.
I compare myself to Christ, but it repeats.
I actually know that's coming in.
What repeats?
jordan holmes
Christ does?
greg reese
Exactly.
jordan holmes
It repeats.
greg reese
Because that will inspire the heads of the Hydra.
If they can cut us off, it's just going to create a legion of info-warriors pushing the truth.
Because you can't stop the truth.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The it repeats is fucked up.
jordan holmes
It repeats!
Listen, I'm not comparing myself to Christ.
I'm just saying that the cycle of Christ-ness, it repeats.
dan friesen
Now, I would suggest that the it repeats...
Undoes whatever sentiment you're trying to convey with I don't think of myself like Christ.
unidentified
Oh, you think?
Yes.
jordan holmes
You think that that clause then negates the previous part of the sentence?
dan friesen
No, I don't think of myself the same as Jesus.
Butt.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Now we're talking.
That butt really changes things.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Alex views himself as somebody who will be sacrificed for the sins of the left or something, I guess.
And through his sacrifice will bring about the cleansing.
That the Patriots need to rise or something.
This is really, really unsettling shit.
jordan holmes
If that's the case, just fucking get it over with, man.
Sacrifice yourself.
Jump into a volcano.
dan friesen
No, because I don't think he actually thinks this.
He wants the audience to think he looks at things this way because it's so noble and selfless.
In reality, what Greg Rees is talking about is far more accurate.
It's like, what we need to do is find a way to land this plane without a crash.
And so you all need to give us a bunch of money so Alex...
Yeah.
Well, the McAfee documentary...
Well, I mean, his life as a documentary didn't end.
Well, I guess Alex thinks he got Epstein'd or whatever.
I don't fucking know.
Anyway, Alex takes more calls with Greg Reese, and this call is awesome.
unidentified
Greg's comment about the lesions of the Info Warriors, I'm thinking that maybe that ought to be something that is a response to Klaus Schwab's 100,000 Info Checkers, so to speak.
And that it might also be a way to add a little money to the checking account at InfoWars is if you had just a real, not subscriber, just a basic membership, 10 bucks.
Get up for that.
We get a little decal that I can proudly put in a little short class on our ethics.
alex jones
No, that's a great idea.
That's a great idea, brother.
greg reese
That is a great idea because I think people are more inclined to...
Take action if they invest in it.
dan friesen
This is just going back to what he did originally.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He used to have memberships.
This is going full circle back to what he did when it was much smaller.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Yep.
dan friesen
He took sponsors when he could when he was too toxic to have sponsors that went away.
He sold gold with his weirdo friend until he lost his license to sell precious metals.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Sold a bunch of supplements.
Maybe now that's too expensive.
jordan holmes
Too much overhead.
Alex, I've invented this new idea.
It's called lowering your overhead and taking donations.
This is brand new.
It's going to revolutionize the industry.
dan friesen
Pretty sweet.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Get a smaller studio and then wait.
Oh, no.
dan friesen
So Alex likes this idea.
jordan holmes
Of course he does.
dan friesen
But he also has to make sure that this caller knows that he had it first.
alex jones
That's right.
I thought of this this morning.
It's crazy you called.
It's from the past!
I was thinking, we should launch an army to counter Schwab.
We've already launched it.
We should make it very clear now.
What?
We battle plan, basic directives, our code of conduct, so they can't misrepresent us, and then launch it.
Greg, help me do it.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
You're lovely, Larry.
We love you.
dan friesen
Lovely, Larry.
jordan holmes
Here's the thing.
Okay.
20 years ago, we created this army.
We called them Info Warriors.
And then two years ago, somebody did a podcast.
And then yesterday, I found out about it.
So they called themselves 110,000 Info Warriors.
So we need to announce that we're 110.
You already were!
dan friesen
Also, Jason Bermas didn't do a show called Info Warrior.
No.
Yeah.
This is dumb.
But I do love Alex's impulse to be like, I thought of this this morning.
jordan holmes
It was me.
dan friesen
Not only am I glad you called in, I had this idea this morning, so if I do it, I'm not stealing it from you.
jordan holmes
It is even dumber because it's like, oh no.
dan friesen
It's not a really new idea.
jordan holmes
Have you thought about this thing that's got four wheels and you put a motor on it and propels you forward?
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I mean, it's a car.
You should really look into cars, okay?
dan friesen
I gotta tell you, this is a great idea and I love it.
I thought of this this morning.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit!
You already thought of the car?
dan friesen
Yeah, so I'm gonna do that.
jordan holmes
Goddammit, you're a genius.
dan friesen
So Alex says something really weird to discuss.
And this is just grandiosity.
It's pretty remarkable.
alex jones
Let me just go ahead and say this now.
And I don't make this announcement to try to act tough or powerful or any of this.
In fact, it's so big I can't talk about it.
And I'm not being dramatic there.
I'm not ready to talk about this yet because it's such a big deal.
It's actually quite frightening.
Everybody thought the Cube movement was secretly in touch with Army intelligence and the resistance movement and all the rest of that.
dan friesen
No, they didn't.
alex jones
Most of the Pentagon leadership are globalists.
Most of our militaries control the grassroots great people.
But I can tell you that over the years and here currently, I don't get orders from these people.
In fact, I was always listened to for over 20 years.
But now, it's been recognized that I'm the leader.
And I don't say that to act powerful.
It's actually a great responsibility.
It's not recognized I'm the leader.
And so whatever's left of the CIA and the military actually looks for us for leadership and have asked us to be the leader.
And I don't say that again to act powerful or to say that's a big deal.
The enemy already knows it.
That's why Klaus Schwab is doing all this.
But God did this.
You did this.
InfoWars is now seen as a leader.
dan friesen
Klaus Schwab didn't do this, and that podcast was from two years ago.
unidentified
But...
dan friesen
Look, there is a really fucked up delusions of grandeur going on here.
Like, obviously, whether or not Alex believes it, one thing.
What he's expressing to his audience is fucked up enough on its own.
The divinely ordained leadership nonsense that's going on throughout this show is fucked up.
And now Alex is saying that he's been selected by the good people within the CIA and the FBI to be the leader.
Of whatever their insurgent nonsense is.
This is...
I mean, I don't know how else to put it.
He's basically appointed himself a revolutionary general or something.
jordan holmes
Can I ask you a question?
Was it last week that Dave and Gareth were on?
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It was one week ago.
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly from today.
jordan holmes
Okay, now I recall last week we learned that Glenn Beck was the FBI and in fact was...
The entire United States government.
dan friesen
That's true.
But he got overthrown at some point.
We have to assume.
jordan holmes
We have to assume that.
So that was treated as a bad thing.
And yet now in this time period, Alex is the FBI and the CIA.
unidentified
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
jordan holmes
Right.
Right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It's totally different.
jordan holmes
Everybody is always in charge of everything.
dan friesen
Well, here's the fun part.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
It's all imaginary.
jordan holmes
That is the fun part.
That is the only part that is fun.
dan friesen
I guess the consequences really are just in what effect it has on his audience.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
What kind of emboldening or radicalizing effect it could have on people like...
Alex is the, he is essentially George Washington now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I think everybody, I think the Infowarriors should just start making themselves FBI badges.
dan friesen
Why not?
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're in the CIA.
dan friesen
I mean, it would be kind of like just a new Bill Cooper thing with his...
jordan holmes
Deputize everybody as an FBI agent.
dan friesen
His citizen core of...
jordan holmes
Yeah, researchers or whatever it is.
dan friesen
Investigating arms.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we have one last clip here, and it's Greg swearing allegiance to Alex as the leader.
jordan holmes
Sure, great.
No, that's awesome.
greg reese
Trump is good.
We need leadership.
We need a president.
But I see you more as a leader for this movement than Trump.
alex jones
Well, it actually scares me to think that Evil Wars is the best we got.
unidentified
I know.
greg reese
Oh, my God.
That's what they said.
alex jones
I said, I'm not the leader.
They said, you're all we got.
That's how bad this is, folks.
We'll be right back with your phone calls on number four.
Stay with us.
dan friesen
Ooh.
jordan holmes
This is why you can't have a show without continuity, okay?
unidentified
Well.
jordan holmes
This is not okay, because I know we're in the future.
This is even in the past.
This is the 19th.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
The last time we talked, he wasn't the head of the CIA.
dan friesen
It didn't come up.
jordan holmes
It should come up!
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
That should be a daily come-upping thing.
dan friesen
I mean, honestly, the last episode seemed like he was pretty excited about Elon Musk tweeting something.
jordan holmes
I understand that.
This is an issue for me.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's the head of the CIA or something.
dan friesen
Part of the CIA.
Part of the CIA.
The real CIA.
jordan holmes
People are pledging fealty to him and then the next day he's like, this is the most important tweet Elon Musk has ever had.
dan friesen
It's a great tweet.
jordan holmes
It's a great tweet.
dan friesen
He wanted to run CERN.
jordan holmes
I got a message from God.
Also, Elon Musk's tweet.
dan friesen
I got a message from God and from the good people in the FBI and CIA.
I am ordained by both to be the leader of this patriot movement because Trump won't go against vaccines or something.
So if Alex is the leader of all this...
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I mean, he gets to choose the president, right?
jordan holmes
You would assume.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I mean, if he's now the leader of the deep state, the deep state is who has chosen the stuff.
dan friesen
It's not the leader of the deep state.
jordan holmes
It seems like he's the leader of the deep state.
dan friesen
The deep state are the other people in the FBI and CIA.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, but I'm assuming that the other people in the FBI and the CIA will call them the deep state.
You can call each other the deep state, but you're still both the deep state.
dan friesen
Are you double bluffing again?
jordan holmes
I'm always.
Unless I'm triple bluffing.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this is dumb.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
But scary.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And we'll see where this ends up going.
jordan holmes
Dumb and scary places, I assume.
dan friesen
I would have to bet.
jordan holmes
It would be that.
dan friesen
But it's really, really fun to know that there are those people in the world like Alex Lee Moyer, Glenn Greenwald, Glenn Beck.
Yeah, I mean, Glenn Beck is supporting Alex now, but Joe Rogan.
jordan holmes
Put a big stamp of approval on that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
This is...
jordan holmes
This is what you got.
dan friesen
This is a picture that was missing from that documentary, I'll tell you what.
jordan holmes
That documentary should have really been way more about how Alex was ordained by God at a young age, or also whenever he eats something delicious.
dan friesen
Well, he needs to be re-upped in his ordainment.
jordan holmes
Yes, that's right.
dan friesen
You know, like he was a Satanist for a little while.
jordan holmes
No, I mean, you get baptized again when you're an evangelical Christian.
dan friesen
Sure, it's like renewing your vows.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you do it double.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah, so we'll be back, Jordan.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Indeed we do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
We are also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Wilford Snibblesnabble of the Gribble Pibble.
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robot.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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