Knowledge Fight - #703: 9/11, Part 1

July 18, 2022 - Knowledge Fight

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#703: 9/11, Part 1

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Knowledge Fight’s #703: 9/11, Part 1 dissects Alex Jones’ immediate false flag claims—citing Operation Northwoods and discredited informant Ahmad Salem—while Jim Wright, a 9/11 eyewitness, reports Building 7’s collapse, contradicting later conspiracy assertions. Derry Brownfield ties the attacks to apocalyptic prophecies, ignoring Pearl Harbor, as Jones pivots blame from bin Laden to Saddam Hussein, then the EU, despite shifting, unverified claims. The episode reveals exploitative, inconsistent narratives prioritizing fear and profit over facts, exposing Jones’ detached, conspiracy-driven framing amid real-world tragedy. [Automatically generated summary]
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alex jones

infowars 17:27

dan friesen

01:04:38

jordan holmes

29:55

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derry brownfield

04:11

jim wright

02:56

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Speaker	Time	Text
unidentified		Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Knowledgefight.com.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's time to pray.
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Knowledge fight.
		I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys.
		Shang, we are the bad guys.
		Knowledge fight.
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		Dan and Jordan.
unidentified		Knowledge fight.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I need money.
		Andy and Pansy.
		Andy and Pandy.
		Andy and Kansas.
		Andy in Kansas.
		It's time to pray.
		Andy in Kansas.
		You're on the air.
		Thanks for holding it.
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Alex.
unidentified		I'm a fish 10 colour language here today.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love your room.
		Knowledge fight.
		Knowledgefight.com.
		I love you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, everybody.
		Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
		I'm Dan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm Jordan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're a couple dudes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like to sit around and worship at the altar of Celine and also talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Quick question for you, my friend.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What's up?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My bright spot today, Jordan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, side bright spot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Side bright spot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My aunt was in town this weekend.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, that's right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we went for dinner.
		I went to, she was flipping the bill.
		We went to Morton's The Steakhouse.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ooh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Almost got a Sunday, their legendary Sunday.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You didn't get their legendary.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, but I was thinking about doing it for the Dreamy Creamy Summer.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I saw them walk by with one, and there was no fucking way.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was like a fish.
unidentified		I know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is a massive.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's offensive.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's an entire meal unto itself.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You should go there just for that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but it was a very nice time.
		It was great to see her and her husband.
		But the bright spot is polar seltzer.
		Oh.
		There's a new flavor out.
		And I tried it, and it is the best.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Really?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I honestly think that this would do numbers in the year of the seltzer had it been around.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is a pink apple lemon flavor seltzer, and it is right on honey crisp apple, my friend.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm talking about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm fascinated by this pink apple lemon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So it's like pink lemonade plus a honey crisp apple.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, pink apple and lemon, not pink lemonade and apple.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, but I mean, the pink, I've never heard pink apple before.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What about a pink lady?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What about a pink lady?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a kind of apple.
unidentified		I understand that, but it's, oh my God, never mind, Chris.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're talking around each other.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, we're not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is not going to be solved today.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're the one who's confused.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know exactly what I'm talking about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I need to pick up the flavor.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's so good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You do know exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's refreshing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I believe you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I like apple juice, but sometimes too sweet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Too sweet?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I also think it's a little bit of balance.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, but I also think that sometimes those ciders that you get at a bar, too tart.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A little too sour.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is right in the middle.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nice sweet spot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Good stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Probably 97.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I can think of a few ways that it could be better.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Polar.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think low-key might be the best.
unidentified		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, we'll see if that's recency bias.
		I'm going to have to say that you're going to have to start over from the beginning and retaste all of those up.
		From the top.
		Let's go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What's your bright spot?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		My bright spot is Dragon Ball Z, my friend.
		As we am regressing, I'm clearly regressing into a childlike state.
		And I was like, what do I need to do?
		And I realized I needed a soap opera.
		And that is what Dragon Ball Z is.
		It's just like professional wrestling.
		It's a soap opera with fight scenes from time to time.
		It's all about the buildup, and then the fight is actually kind of boring, honestly.
		It's very predictable.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The whole thing.
		And the formula is non-stop the same.
		Non-stop the same.
		A commitment to a formula so staid and boring that it's almost admirable, honestly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry I'm barely paying attention.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm really trying to figure out a way to make RuPaul's Dragon Ball Race Z work or something, but it just I can't make it work.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not going to happen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a pun in there, my friend.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I really wish there was, but I think he better minds than you have driven themselves mad trying to find it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've seen the best minds of my generation driven mad by trying to make this pun.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm glad you're enjoying that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, enjoying isn't quite the word, but it's good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over and I'll explain all about it in a moment.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But first, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's a great idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, first, the look of confusion on the waitress's face at Olive Garden when I tried to order the Lionel Sperlingetti.
		Thank you so much.
		You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'd like to do punch-up on this.
		What?
		I tried to order the Lionel Sperlingetti and meatballs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, that's a little bit better.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I gotta see.
		If we were in a workshop talking about jokes, you need a tag on there.
		That's the meatballs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, next, live tonight, it's Dr. Toots and the Bachelor Squatch Trio.
		Thank you so much.
		You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
		Sorry about this one.
		A little bit late.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is a shout out.
		Happy Father's Day to Paul Griffiths.
		You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Happy Father's Day to all you fathers out there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Next, Nark Art Funkel.
		Thank you so much.
		You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we got a couple of technocrats here in the mix.
		So first, Dawn Ford, voice of fantasy and adventure.
		Thank you so much.
		You are now a technocrat.
		And Luke loves Josie.
		And both of us love this podcast.
		Thank you so much.
		You are now a technocrat.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
		I have risen above my enemies.
		I might quit tomorrow, actually.
		I'm just going to take a little break now.
		A little breaky for me.
		And then we're going to come back.
		And I'm going to start the show over.
		But I'm the devil.
		I got to be taking off here.
		I've been all this.
		Fuck you.
		Fuck you.
		I got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your new world order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit.
		Maybe today should be my last broadcast.
		Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.
		Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again.
		That's really what I want to do.
		I never want to come back here again.
		I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air.
		I'll be better tomorrow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's not, never will be, and never was.
		Nope.
		So today, Jordan, I'm sick of Alex's bullshit.
		Sure.
		The publicity stunt shit from last week, just very annoying.
		Really bad taste in my mouth.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Really drains you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But simultaneously, there's not a lot of other very good outlets to look into.
		Jim Baker, Drywell.
		Dead.
		There's no more squatch talk on Project Camelot.
		So I don't know where to go with that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Can't go back to the forest on that one too many times.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, and I did check in on a number of episodes from 2003, and I was just boring, boring wasting my time in the end.
		Just to.
		And so I realized that there was something that I had been meaning to do for a while.
		Oh.
		And that is go over September 11th, 2001.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
		Oh, my God.
		Do you know how funny that is?
		Because of the, did you see the picture going around?
		No.
		Apparently, ESPN's Yankees, Red Sox.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that picture, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That picture is so funny.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ground Zero with the Twin Towers of New York and Boston Red Sox.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes, amazing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A little bit of weird timing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Amazing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But so here's the situation.
		Like, one of the reasons we haven't covered this already was I didn't have access to the audio initially when we first started this podcast.
		I didn't know how to find it.
		I didn't know where it was.
		And so that was a limiting factor.
		And then as we got further into the podcast, I kind of thought like, we'll save this.
		We'll save this for something.
		And stupidly, I was like, we'll save it for like we do it live.
		We'll do a live.
		Oh, no.
		And gradually that felt like that's never going to be a good idea.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it just the can got kicked down the road.
		Sure.
		And I don't know, an argument could be made that a professional podcaster might have done this for like episode 700 as opposed to 704.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I really don't understand.
		Why have we numbered our episodes in the first place?
		It was a bad idea.
		Neither of us remember.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just a way for people to have shorthand for like it was in 205.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		People asked me to do it, so I put numbers on it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, see, and now you're beholden to the numbers, game.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I'm not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Clearly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But that's how we live.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We are doing September 11th.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it's Father's Day.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		On an unimportantly numbered episode.
		Yes.
		So here's the syllabus.
		Alex was on air during the day.
		Right.
		And that's what we're going to be talking about today.
		Then on Wednesday, we're going to be covering Alex's evening show.
		He was back on air from 9 to midnight.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That night.
		Yeah.
		And so obviously, there's going to be different amounts of information that he's privy to.
		Different things will have happened.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so over the course of these next couple episodes, we will experience his immediacy.
		And he's like, I've got a little time to simmer.
		And we'll see if there's any differences.
		We'll see how this goes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's nice to go to the past and him being correct about Saddam's son still being alive.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a, you know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't come up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Doesn't come up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Saddam does, though, in a very weird way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That makes sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So one of the other things, too, one of the other reasons that I was motivated to go forward with this for now is that also we're going to be in Austin.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're going to be doing a bit of present-day coverage of Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it feels like let's have some fun while we can.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're going to be doing plenty of present-day Alex for a while.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I worry that a lot of that will not be super informative in the way that I kind of like a lot of our show to be.
		Sure.
		There's revelatory things when you go to the past.
		You experience stuff that's like, wait a second, what the fuck are you talking about?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And there's not as much of that in the present day.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's more recapping in the present as opposed to revealing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And some, like, can you believe this?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know, right?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Can you look at this asshole?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And so, you know, smoke them while you got them.
		That's, I guess, the feeling I have.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's how we live.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So here we go.
		Here is how Alex is starting off the show.
		And I will say that this is about exactly what you would expect.
		He's recounting the events that have happened up till the point that he gets on air himself.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've been warning you about it for at least five years.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Terrorism that we've looked at right at the gate.
		Center of Oklahoma City to Waco has been government actions.
		They need this as a pretext to bring you and your family martial law.
		They're either using provocateur Arabs and allowing them to do it, or this is full complicity with the federal government.
		The evidence is overwhelming to bring you up to speed on what's happened.
		At 8:50 a.m., EDT, plane hits World Trade Center, 9.20.
		FBI says at least one plane hijacked.
		9:30 Eastern second jet crashes into World Trade Center.
		Plane hits Pentagon 9:40.
		Federal officials said a U.S. airplane has hit the Pentagon.
		The crash comes nearly an hour after two planes hit the World Trade Center building.
		All U.S. buildings in Capitol Hill evacuated.
		10.13, 10.15, World Trade Center South Tower collapses.
		10.20.
		Report explosion at Capitol.
		10.30.
		U.S. congressional leaders, top cabinet officials moving to secure facilities.
		10.30, anchor.
		Another hijacked plane reported 20 minutes south of Washington, D.C. Second Tower North collapses.
		Hijacked plane crashes.
		South of Pittsburgh PA officials investigating at another hijacking with a plane headed towards D.C.
		And 1045, all federal buildings in D.C. have been evacuated.
		And then we're told other planes are in the air.
		They're finding bombs at schools.
		We don't know how many of these reports are accurate.
		We know that two planes have crashed into the World Trade Center.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So here we see the way Alex opens up the show on 9-11.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And there's a couple of things that stick out to me in a pretty serious way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The first has to do with the end of that clip, where Alex says that we're told there are other planes in the air and they're finding bombs at schools.
		But he's clear in this statement at this point.
		They had no idea if the things that are coming in are accurate.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's an understanding that the immediacy of the events creates a fog of uncertainty.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's not something that feels the same as how Alex operates today.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The second thing I found really interesting is that Alex's take on this is exactly what you'd think it would be.
		Oh, yeah.
		Immediately, this is declared a false flag.
		It has to be because that's how the globalists are going to bring in martial law.
		But that didn't happen.
		There have been a lot of trends that have gotten worse since 9-11 in terms of surveillance and police militarization, but those things don't constitute martial law.
		These are the objectives of this false flag because they're the objectives Alex always immediately declares to blame his imaginary enemies for every tragic event that occurs.
		And this just fits in with that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		For sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The third thing I want to point out is that Alex has already declared this a false flag.
		He knows literally nothing that will eventually appear in his documentaries about 9-11, all of the real or imagined anomalies that he points to in order to build his case.
		This is critical because it really does illustrate how he arrived at his conclusion long before seeking out evidence, which is not a good process.
		I guess what I'm saying is that if Alex knew that this was a false flag hours before Building 7 even fell, then he shouldn't be able to use Building 7 in his explanation of what makes the argument that this was a false flag.
		All of the evidence he should need to present has to be in his head prior to his determination that this is a false flag, or else that evidence is no longer really evidence necessarily, or at least it's suspicious that it could be trivia that he sought out to justify the conclusion that he wanted to push.
		And I think that description is really apt.
		If you look at the conspiracy theories that were pushed in films like the Alex produced Loose Change, which was also produced by Infowars employee Jason Burmes, aka the InfoWarrior, you start to get the picture that this was the process that Alex World was using to deal with information.
		That documentary had to be re-released multiple times because things in the film were debunked to the point of making their inclusion in the documentary embarrassing.
		They had to be edited out.
		For instance, in various incarnations of the film, Flight 93 was originally shot down, and then it was diverted to Cleveland's Hopkins airport, and then that entire storyline was edited out of the final cut version.
		It's important to keep this dynamic in our heads as we experience the way Alex covers the day's tragedy.
		He already has a conclusion, and he's trying to find justification for that conclusion, whether or not that justification means anything or is even real.
		Yeah.
		You had quite a response there, though.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, one, have you seen the new edit of his 9-11 movie?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's just him going, ah!
unidentified		And that's it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They've edited out all the embarrassing parts, and that's what was left behind.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All that's left behind is it being like, this is about me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You see that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Secretly, this is about me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I know that the World Trade Center is literally still on fire, but have I told you that the I mean, that is amazing to me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's pretty shitty.
		Like, in the present day, you hear him do shit like that for a mass shooting and you go, Jesus Christ, that's fucked up.
		Yeah.
		You know, but you feel like that's with 30 years of being a giant piece of shit under your belt, you know, to know that right out the gate on 9-11, he's like, boom, called it.
		That's his story.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is an insane psychopathic narcissist, serial killer level shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I remember what that is.
		I remember 9-11 and being at school when it happened.
		And I remember the teachers being very somber.
		You know, there was a tone of like a lot of respect.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I just, it feels really absent from Alex.
		I mean, and you know, one of the things I compare this to is like, if you listen to the episode of like Bill Cooper after a tragedy, I believe, I think it was the episode after Columbine that you can find.
		And he's crying on air about the tragedy and how he feels for these families.
		He has kids, you know, and like, I don't want to deify Bill Cooper.
		He's an asshole.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, absolutely an asshole.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But on air, he recognized on some way that people are hurting and it's okay to hurt.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Alex doesn't have that at all.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, he's an absolute psychopath.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, there's really no way to describe him other than a complete psycho.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We are like an hour and a half after the planes hit the building and he's he's on air being like, ladies and gentlemen, the globalists have done it again.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		9-11 is up.
		That is amazing.
		There were high school kids in my leading prayer circles.
		Like it was that kind of shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like people who weren't religious were joining me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
unidentified		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I walked in the door and there were people in circles.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like all of a sudden they're praying to all kinds of gods and you're like, whoa, Jesus.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I recall that the school, the high school that I went to, they basically made a thing.
		It was like, if you want to go home, you can.
		But if you want to stay at school, all the rest of the classes for the rest of the day are just basically going to be, we're just going to talk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it was kind of a, let's work through like how to process what happened.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And weirdly, I had a psychology class that afternoon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Listen, we're going to watch a movie.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that actually kind of dovetailed with like dealing with trauma.
		And like, I think, I think there was a lot of that process went fairly well.
		This is not that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's amazing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's really weird to think that I was in this class talking about like everyone's opening up with their feelings about this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And like some people had family who lived in New York.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, talking about their fears about it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not being able to contact folks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And simultaneously in Austin, Texas, Alex is recording this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Called it.
		Nailed that one.
		Put that one on the board for Alex.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Ma'am.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Put one in the yes column.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So here's Alex talking about who he's got to talk to that day.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is pandemic.
		This is one of the biggest stories of the last century and now into the 21st century.
		We're going to have Dave on Clice and Joyce Riley joining us.
		Other Genesis hosts, one of which lives in New York, but we have an eyewitness coming up after this break if his cell phone holds Jim Wright.
		We also have a landline for him, but landlines aren't working too well.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So it's nice to see Alex sort of, you know, recognizing the gravity of the situation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I suppose.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, like, because sometimes there will just be like some weird anti-vex fake talking point, and he'll tell you to stop traffic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whereas this is the biggest story of his life.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he's recognizing that, like, this is the biggest thing in the last century.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You almost expect him to call Steve and Steve is in New York City, just being like, oh, Jesus, Alex, you didn't even ask if I was doing all right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I wasn't in the building, but I'm next door, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex, this isn't going to make sense, but you've got to call Leo Zagambi.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He did this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's got it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so that was one of the things that struck me is that Alex's bench for his guests is shallow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There are no heavy hitters that he can get on the show, just other GCN hosts and this Jim Wright guy, who's a personal friend of his, who was there and saw the attack firsthand.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wild.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he's married to Alex's sister or something like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a familial connection.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's just a friend of his.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I like it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know that he doesn't actually meet Steve Pieczenik until 2002.
		And he won't run into Roger for like another 12 years after this, but it seems strange that he couldn't get like Steve Quayle or Joel Skousen on.
		Some of these old-timers who are like real anti-communist weirdos.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or even some of the loosely connected to GCN folks that would later be his standby experts, like Webster Tarpley or Stanley Monteith, or even Alan Watt, not Alan Watts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, of course not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The reality is that this doesn't mean anything.
		But it's something to note.
		None of the good weirdos are around at this point.
		It is just whoever else is associated with GCN or is friends with Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is it that so much, or is it possible he tried to get in contact with them and they were like, do you realize that 9-11 is happening right now?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I didn't cut this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, they wouldn't because they're psychos too.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think if people recognize that Alex was a useful place to appear, then I think that they would probably make time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that Alex isn't a useful place to appear at this point.
		He does mention Benton K. Parton, who's a guy who, OK, Oklahoma City Conspiracy Chair.
		Friend of Alex's.
		And he's a former general.
		Sure, he's head of Air Force Weapons Development.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That sounds true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And at one point, his producer says that they were trying to call him and they're getting a busy signal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so Alex announces on air: stop trying to call Benton Parton.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We need to get through to him.
unidentified		As if he knows that his audience has his phone number, which he might.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's entirely possible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We know that Larry Nichols gave out his number on air.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now I'm in this place where I'm like, is there a heist putting together a crew moment for Alex where he's like walking into Webster Tarpley's bar one time and just like looking at him across there and just like, it's time to get back on the horse, you know, like that kind of thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If it was a bar, it would be Big Jim Tucker.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what I was thinking about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was thinking of Big Jim Tucker.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's smoking cigarettes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jim like looks up from a glass of whiskey neat and he's like, I knew you'd come.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's time for another job.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Horses to Bilderberg.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		Yeah.
		That's what needs to happen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex has some evidence that he points to to build his case that this is a false flag.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And of course, here's the biggest part of it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		If you go to Infowars.com, you'll find some interesting evidence there.
		The story from back in April out of the Baltimore Sun, where the joint chiefs of staff were caught wanting to blow up civilian airliners, attack the Marines at Guantanamo Bay using an Army company disguised as Cubans, bomb Washington, D.C.
		We have the James Banford story, best-selling author, former 2020 executive with the CIA and NSA documents.
		The feds wanted to blow up civilian airlines, wanted to bomb Washington, wanted to shoot people in Miami as a pretext to invade Cuba in 1962.
		That is on Infowars.com, mainstream, but Kennedy said no.
		Six months later, his head was blown off.
		We have become a different society in 2001.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this is Operation Northwoods, but he doesn't use the name.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He mentions it multiple times, but I don't know if he knows the name or if he just doesn't trust that the audience will know the name and understand what he's talking about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that is interesting.
		Yeah.
		Has that been ⁇ I mean, clearly, I didn't know about it in 2001.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It wouldn't surprise me if that particular thing gained more prominence or awareness in the greater conspiracy theory community in the past 20 years.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I would imagine so.
		But I would also imagine that if you're going to talk about this and you know a lot about it, you might want to give people a shorthand that they can use to look into it a little bit easier than, I guess, I'll try and figure out what plan JFK turned down in 1962.
		If you know the name Operation Northwoods, it's a little bit easier to look into it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I don't know if it's negligence or if it's just Alex being obtuse.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It could be anything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's entirely possible.
		Could just be he's green, man.
		He's not, he's not, he's still young.
		He doesn't know everything yet.
		He's got years and hours of study to put in.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, 15 hours a day for 20 years.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's a day for 20 years?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's an insane amount of effort.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, do you know how many beats he could make if he was Kanye?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		16.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A total of 16 beats is the number he could make.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Uh-huh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, look, I think that Alex doesn't have great evidence, but here's a little bit more evidence.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Back in 1993, it was in the New York Times, October 28th, that the feds trained the bombers, trained the drivers, cooked the bomb, and allowed that bombing to go forward.
		They got caught because one of the informants recorded the FBI telling him to let the bombing go forward because he was worried about being framed for it.
		What am I saying?
		I'm saying who stands to gain from this?
		Who has the motive?
		Who can bring you martial law and destroy your freedom?
		The government.
		It's not our government.
		Stay with us.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's not true.
		And Alex can't prove any of this stuff about the prior bombing of the World Trade Center.
		This all comes from comments made by Ahmad Salem, an informant for the FBI, who had a, you know, he was inside the group that was planning that bombing.
		From all concrete information, the FBI was aware that a bombing was being planned, but they weren't aware of the specific details.
		After the bombing, Salem recorded conversations between himself and the FBI where he made claims like that the bomb was cooked with the supervision of, quote, the Bureau and the DA.
		But that's not something that's been substantiated in any way.
		And it was widely investigated and reported in the press at the time.
		Also, it's important to remember that Salem admitted to committing perjury and also just lying a bunch.
		For instance, he admitted that, quote, when he met his wife, he bragged falsely that he acted as security for the president of Egypt.
		This is from an article from 1995 in the LA Times.
		Quote, he said he began working with the FBI in May 1991.
		During that time, he said he lied to an FBI agent, falsely bragging that he knew Libya's leader, Muammar Gaddafi, and Iraq's president Saddam Hussein, as well as the military and atomic capabilities of other countries.
		In addition to that, he lied under oath while serving as a state witness, so his credibility isn't strong enough to serve as the cornerstone of a conspiracy that the government did the prior bombing or 9-11.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But this is exactly what Alex wants to believe, so he will uncritically accept whatever information allows him to justify the conclusion he would reach with or without evidence.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is basically his whole game.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what we got.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		Yep.
		Here's my feeling.
		Okay.
		If you lie to the FBI and they believe you, that's on them.
		I feel like that should be the rule for the FBI.
		You should be able to, you should know.
		You're the FBI or the CIA.
		You shouldn't be able to just lie to the FBI or the CIA and have them go, sounds good to me, boss, and then get to work.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's insane.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that it's fanciful the way you think.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I hold them to a higher standard of being able to at least look into whether or not a liar is lying to them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, whether or not who is at fault for a lie, I think that it is indicative of your credibility if you lie.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's more my point.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is a side point.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is a side point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You sound like the BTK killer, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I sound like the BTK killer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because you know he only got caught because he sent a disc to the police.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And part of the conditions of him sending this floppy disc to the police was that they had to promise not to trace it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And so they did.
		Absolutely not.
		I'm not saying it's not a crime.
		I'm just saying that the FBI should take responsibility for their own fuck-ups.
		They shouldn't be like, oh, I'm mad at this guy.
		I'm sure that guy committed perjury and all that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You just have some weird feelings about statements.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's about fairness.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is about a fair world and justice, Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You just think that people shouldn't be able to be punished for successfully lying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I kind of do feel a bit like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But if you successfully lie to the FBI, then you will get in trouble anyway because you will have successfully lied to them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You only lie if they catch you in the lie.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, but if they catch you later, if they catch you later, it's on them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm sure there's a statute of limitations.
unidentified		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I feel like that's important.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You should be able to get away with it after six months.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm glad we had this policy session.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is a really good one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex has a number that he's going to put on the percent chance this was a false flag.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And again, four immediately.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		5%.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
		We were able to get Jim via his cell phone there on the scene amongst all of the carnage.
		We should be praying for the dead and dying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you sound sincere.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm praying for this country.
		Would God heal this land, this modern Babylon that would create something like this?
		I'll tell you the bottom line.
		98% chance this was a government-orchestrated control bombing.
		I've been telling you this was going to happen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		98% chance.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is high.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And pretty boilerplate for him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a thing I'm going to discuss a little bit later, but you can already see the kernels of it.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Feels like a little bit autopilot here on 9-11.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, other than like, I feel like he's excited.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, he's like, oh, shit, 9-11, this is a big deal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, his ratings are way up.
		He mentions it a couple of times.
		Like, he has triple the amount of audience that he normally does.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is a very early example of the tragedy is good for business kind of situation here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Even if it's fucking 9-11.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Jesus.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's cynical, man.
		It's really bleak to look into this image of.
		Yeah.
		It doesn't get better either.
		I'll say that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I believe that, too.
		It is always interesting to me whenever he's adding this modern-day Babylon where he's saying we have it coming, too.
		You know, he's saying at the same time that the government did it to us and we're innocent.
		And at the same time, if we hadn't created such a shitty society, then the government wouldn't have done this to us.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, you understand that sort of push and pull exists in the present day, too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, for sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		God maybe should destroy us.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, maybe we deserve the devil to take over because we have abortions.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that is true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We do have abortions and the devil should take over.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That tension, I think, animates a lot of the extreme Christian right.
		This notion that we deserve this punishment that's coming.
		Sure.
		That the punishment is almost like a holy process.
		Right, right, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And the unspoken part of that is everybody else deserves that punishment and not us.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		We are the few devout who will be the remnants that survive this holy punishment, and then the earth will be ours.
		Yeah.
		Hold on to those thoughts because this may play a role later much more explicitly than the feelings you're already getting.
		So, look, Alex had some other stories in addition to stories that he covered about the coming of 9-11.
		I also just realized I should probably stop saying look.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Look, Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'll say that after, like, before every clip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You do point at me as well.
		Yeah.
		There is an aggression.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm getting a little self-conscious about that out of nowhere.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But Alex has some other stories that he was covering that he feels are possibly prophetic.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Every day I read news stories where they were telling you that we were going to be hit by terrorists, that it was going to happen anytime.
		Give up your rights.
		They've been telling us we're going to get hit by anthrax.
		We're going to get hit by smallpox.
		The AP reported on a secret meeting with a joint chief of staff, the heads of the media, with fake newscasts they produced back in June, where they predicted one to four million dead from anthrax.
		Martial law was the term used.
		I'm not saying this is going to happen, but they've been preparing for it, and they have been saying it's going to happen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a little interesting to note that Alex was in a decent ballpark here in terms of talking about smallpox and anthrax.
		I don't necessarily give him credit for predicting anything, but it was a topic that would become much more relevant in the days after 9-11.
		It's not surprising, though.
		After a giant terrorist attack, you would be concerned about another attack happening, and a biological agent would be a really devastating second hit.
		So if you're the government, you'd want to be safe about that.
		Thus, after 9-11, there was heightened discussion about these agents since they are pretty common, accessible, and dangerous ones that you would be worried about terrorists getting a hold of and using.
		As for why Alex was talking a bunch about these things before 9-11, I have a few theories.
		The first is that in 1998, the military made anthrax vaccination mandatory, which came to a head in 2000 with a very high-profile case of Major Sonny Bates, who refused to take the vaccine and was ultimately discharged from the service.
		After this, Bates embarked on a long journey of trying to sue folks about the vaccination mandate.
		And if you consult some of the contemporary material, it really reads a lot like the talking points about the COVID vaccines today.
		For instance, here's a bit from the Washington Post article about Sonny's lawsuit against the FDA from May 2001.
		Quote, the suit seeks a court order that would require the FDA to treat the vaccine as an experimental drug.
		Such a ruling would mean the military could no longer administer it without informed consent.
		To be clear, enlisted persons still have the right to informed consent.
		There just might also be policies in place where refusal to accept something will violate the terms of their employment.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But they're not killed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're not like, they don't sneak up on them and inject them with the smallpox vaccination from behind.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not like you get dosed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it's not even like, oh, you're going to spend the next 20 years in the brig.
		It's just like, oh, I mean, yeah, we get it.
		And if that's what you want to do, that's dumb.
		But, I mean, you're just fired.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Go get a job.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Why would we not want all of our soldiers to be immune to a possible weapon?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ah, no, because what if the end?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this is going on.
		And like, you hear that same thing, like that emergency experimental drug kind of language that is mirrored and echoed entirely 20 years later.
		This is essentially right in Alex's wheelhouse, this story.
		So I would guess that the odds are very good that he was following this entire situation and creating exaggerated narratives out of it, which would make anthrax a really hot topic on his show.
		And the anthrax vaccine, how they want to force it on you.
		And honestly, maybe it wouldn't have been relevant to most people until after 9-11, which gives the appearance of Alex talking about this a whole lot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And you can repackage that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because he was in a niche area of focus, for instance, the military and vaccinations, he will have that kind of information that other people just wouldn't be aware of at the time.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so, for the meeting of the media and the joint chiefs, this took a little while to sort out what I think is going on, but I'm pretty confident about this.
		And that is on June 22nd and 23rd, 2001, Johns Hopkins held a tabletop exercise where they simulated a biological terrorist attack that used smallpox as the agent in the fictional scenario.
		This fits a lot of the details that Alex was talking about, and some of the participants in the exercise included members of the press, like Judith Miller from the New York Times and Mary Walsh from CBS News.
		It also included people who had policy experience taking on the roles of people in important government positions.
		For instance, David Gergen played the national security advisor in the scenario, although he was not the national security advisor.
		And General John Talelli stood in as the chairman of the Joint Chiefs in the scenario.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And unfortunately, a high percentage of Alex's narratives about reality come from selectively misrepresenting things that people do in scenario exercises.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I'm going to bet that this is where he's pulling that stuff from.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's locksteppy enough for me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And other examples.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, yeah, untold.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My point is that at first glance, it feels almost impressive that Alex is bringing up how he's been talking about smallpox and anthrax prior to 9-11, knowing what we know, that these will become hot topics of conversation in the coming days.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it's not really when you take a moment to ask yourself if there's a reason why he would be talking about these subjects at the time.
		Almost always, you'll end up disappointing yourself when you realize that he's basically been doing the same weak bullshit for over 20 years.
		This is really kind of deflating.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, man.
		It is like just seeing, you know, it's just a giant mass shooting to him.
		It's just a bigger mass shooting with property damage.
		Like he doesn't have any emotion towards this beyond.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It feels very emotionless.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's weird to hear from me, someone who is a little bit robot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you calm down.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You've got a deep inner turmoil.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I can't calm down.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I am not agitated.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You don't have feelings.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I understand.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I'm going to give a tiny warning before this next clip because there's some discussion of, you know, some of the bodies and carnage.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And he does that so graphically, I see.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't really.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's getting the report from Jim, his buddy, who was there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And there's only one reason that I really want to play this clip, and it's to give one example.
		This happens a couple times throughout the show.
		Alex seems to have a bizarre preoccupation with details about the people who jumped.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I find that super distasteful.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He seems to really want to glom onto that detail as like, well, I mean, obviously it's an evocative image, and it's been terrifying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it's straight out of a movie.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so here is that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Skip ahead if you don't want to hear sort of recounting of details.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Jim, tell us where you work, what you saw, and basically run down for this audience exactly what developed this morning at 8.50 a.m. when the first plane slapped in, slammed into the South World Trade Center.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead, sir.
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		Sure, Alex.
		I'm in the World Fire, or I was at that time in the World Finance Center directly across the street from the World Trade Center between the World Trade Center and the Hudson River.
		We heard a shot of, you know, 10 till 9 or so.
		I actually saw walls vibrating in some of the neighboring buildings, heard a noise that sounded like cherry bombs, followed by almost like a dump truck dumping gravel sound.
		Worked out one side of our building where I thought the noise came from on the riverside.
		That wasn't it.
		We went back to the front, and at that point, there were a number of our people lined up on the 15th floor watching One World Trade Center burn.
		It was burning from about the 100th floor up.
		While we were watching it, you could actually see bodies coming out of the windows.
		Some were obviously dead.
		Others were flatling as they came down.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Were they on fire?
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		Just smoke.
		Just smoke.
		That's a little gruesome.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He's getting the details.
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		Anyway.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's not too bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's kind of why I, and I don't necessarily think that there's anything too horribly graphic, but there is a preoccupation that you can track.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I felt like it was worth mentioning.
		And just that's his response to it is hearing about people falling or jumping.
		And he asks, are they on fire?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Tell me more gruesome details.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's so weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's like he's trying to get a faces of death story told to him.
		Just like, oh, man, yeah.
		What else was going on?
		Oh, was there a foot flying too?
		Like, oh, that's so gross.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it really raises the question of what more information do you gain by finding out if they were on fire or not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I mean, well, you get to find out if they were on fire.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know how it changes the situation.
		Like, it's very weird.
		The journalistic impulse is strange because it feels kind of exploitative and gross.
unidentified		It is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I thought it would be exploitative and gross if I played the number of instances that that he asks for, like, talks about people falling stuff.
		Yeah.
		So this guy, it turns out is not only Alex's friend, he also went to college.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		I mean, Alex, I used a structural engineer and I've watched buildings implode.
		It was the most perfect implosion I've ever seen in my life.
		It came straight down in one monolithic piece.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now, you are a structural engineer.
		How could fire in the upper floors, you say one plane hit about the 100th floor, the other hitting about the 75th floor?
		How does that cause a building to completely collapse?
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		I don't believe it does, Alex.
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		I mean, looking at the wall building came down, it looked like there was charges up around the 70th, but I've just got to believe there was also charges at the base of the building.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's just guessing this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Straight up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He is a guy who is only on this show because he's a friend of Alex's.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he is not a professional structural engineer.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, he turned down CNN.
		He turned down CNN as an expert for them, so he could go on Alex's show.
		I think every priority.
		Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or you just got to do a favor for your brother.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, they're best friends.
		Yay!
		Yeah.
		Took a few courses in structural engineering, and he's like, well, they clearly put it in the future.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm even going to say he may have had a degree.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He said he studied at the master's level, which to me is definitely a little suspicious because that means you don't have a master's degree.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what that means, but I'll give him maybe an undergraduate degree in some kind of engineering, and that means he knows some things.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm not saying he doesn't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not necessarily going to take Alex's friend who maybe studied engineering as like, oh, well, there must have been bombs then.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to throw this out at you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Anybody who, within the span of under four hours, can suddenly decide that they placed charges around the bottom of the World Trade Center without anybody noticing, well, that is somebody I don't trust.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think you could talk to somebody and they could say it was surreal watching them go down.
		It was like they had bombs or something.
		Because, you know, trying to deal with what you have experienced and what you've seen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's the closest corollary I can think of to try and process?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was a controlled demolition.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That makes sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But to do that on Alex's show while flouting a credential of I'm a structural engineer.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Different idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's not me and some dude in a bar going like, oh, is that that is interesting?
		That's because I remember.
		I saw one of those on TV.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a little irresponsible.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex is like, fuck yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, of course Alex is like, fuck you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is government.
		What you have just told us, sir, I saw those buildings collapse.
		You were right there.
		I was watching it on the news.
		They wanted massive death.
		So you're saying as a structural engineer, you are witnessing this.
		It is collapsing.
		And then both the structures only place charges are so precise.
		Is that what you're saying?
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		That's what it appeared to be, Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So yeah, Alex has taken this and he is now a professional structural engineer.
		We're going with this, man.
		This is government.
		This is a 98% now, man.
		This is one hundo.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I despise whenever you get asked a yes or no question and you answer with something wishy-washy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, you kind of have to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what it appeared to be.
		What are you talking about?
		You know, of course it didn't.
		What are you doing?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it's a weird thing on Alex's show because you know that no matter what you say, he's going to make it equivocal, like unequivocal.
		He's going to say, like, this is 100% true.
		And not only that, this guy is one of the most prestigious structural engineers.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He studied at the master's level.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I studied at the master's level because I was picked out of college by the greatest structural engineers in the world and taught secrets of structural engineering that no one has ever even heard before.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I am secretly Frank Lloyd Wright.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I am the reincarnated ghost of Frank Lloyd Wright.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex is just pushing this pretty hard.
		Pushing that.
		He's got an angle and he's going with it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Do you see how the government could stand again to bring us a police state from this happening?
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		Alex, I'm not even going to go there.
		I have no opinion on that.
		I'll just tell you the facts I see.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, how would I?
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		I'm not going to speculate who did this or anything like that.
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		That's way beyond my knowledge base.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Certainly, you heard Hitler burning the Reichstag as a pretext to declare martial law.
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		Agree?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hitler burning the Reichstag as a pretext to declare martial law.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I've been predicting this for five years.
		I'm just so glad that you're alive.
		Have you had a chance to talk to your wife?
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I have, Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That was a jarring turn.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm so glad you're alive.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Said with no gladness in his voice whatsoever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this is approximately 15 minutes into the show, and it's still chaos in New York at this point in the day.
		It's honestly hard to express exactly how distasteful it is to hear Alex covering the story this way, knowing what people were living through.
		I understand that he pretends that he acts the way he does because it's part of him fighting a larger evil entity that's pulling the strings behind all world events.
		But coming on air at like 11:15 on 9-11 and rambling about the Reichstag fire and trying to get your guest, who's just a friend of yours who worked in a building near the World Trade Center, to agree with you that the government probably did this is a bit disrespectful.
		For quite a while after 9-11, people would respond to any joke about the event by saying too soon.
		And intelligent people can disagree about what is and is not too soon to joke about a tragedy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The aristocrats.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What Alex is doing is too soon.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that is categorically, undeniably too soon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's no soon for this.
		There are jokes that are too soon, but this is not, this is not never soon or late.
		Just don't do this.
		I would advise someone not to do this, but especially right on the, I mean, even if that's the thing, you know, I was trying to put it in my head, like, maybe if you do subscribe to this worldview, this doesn't have the view of a tragedy.
		No, even if it's a false flag, the building's still felt.
		People are still dead.
		Feel something.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Knowing what we know now, we know what the number of deaths was.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I will say that Alex believes it to be much higher than it ends up being.
		And I think a lot of people do, myself included.
		I thought there's no way that possibly couldn't have killed tens of thousands of people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You would have had to assume so.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so, like, for Alex to, in his head, believe this to be, you know, much more deadly than it was and still be acting this way is an indication that, like, okay, if you're arguing that his conspiracy worldview doesn't make him see this as a tragedy, then that's macabre dark.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't even know what to think about what that kind of worldview would do to your ability to empathize.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I really don't.
		And then imagine if you have that worldview and you assume that there were tens of thousands of dead, and then somebody was like, no, the real number is actually much lower.
		It's just a, I bet he felt disappointed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't want to speculate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm telling you, that's so dark.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's so dark.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think the only way you can go about it.
		The only way you can go about it, I guess, is to just be like, fuck, it's awful that these people died, but I have to transmute that into anger at the globalists because they did this.
		You know, that's the only way you can do it.
		And I don't even really feel that.
		No, don't feel like there's an increased anger that is being sublimated from the pain.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's agitation.
		It's excitement.
		He's buzzing.
		A little.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a little bit of.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I got a lot of eyes on me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		The audience is higher.
		I told you so.
		I've been vindicated.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I told you so.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't feel right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it feels very fucked up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this doesn't feel right either.
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		Looking at the amount of time between the time the planes hit and the time that these buildings were imploded, however that was brought about, in one hand, it was almost like they were giving people time, like people could be evacuated, civilians to be evacuated.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But it seemed like it was about 45 minutes, which also seems almost like they were giving them time to evacuate.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Again, DeGreed in the structural engineer area, you're saying the most beautiful implosion you've ever seen and of some of the biggest buildings in the world.
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What is that voice?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The tone is just bizarre.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What the fuck?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then also, you notice he's trying to build up those credentials, trying to really stress the credentials because now this has gone from a first-hand account from a friend of his into a source.
		This is now something he's going to try and rely on as like, the day off structural engineers said that there were bombs in the building.
		No, they didn't.
		It's your friend talking shit.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Saying things a little bit loose.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, totally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, I think that that part of the mythology is something that you hear echoed in his show in later years.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and it is such a like, don't, or, well, all of his friends kind of know this, like, drop something that makes you a little bit more than just a regular lay person in there, and Alex will immediately run with it beyond reason.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You'd hope that your friend, like, if you're his friend, you'd know that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe you'd hope that you'd be a little careful.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You would think.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But apparently you don't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Maybe subconsciously they want to make him happy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we have some early misreporting here.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, ladies and gentlemen, the two aircraft slammed into both the World Trade Center towers.
		They have collapsed.
		A lot of deaths there on the ground.
		We should be praying for everyone.
		We have another plane smashing into the Pentagon.
		Part of the structure has caved in.
		It's being reported.
		Another one slammed into the Pittsburgh PA airport right outside town.
		They're international airport.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sorry, what?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This just in U.S. Canada, Mexico borders have been sealed.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That is martial law, ladies and gentlemen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can see here some preliminary reports that Alex is airing that are not correct.
		And in some ways, this is stuff that's expected.
		And you can give him some leeway on some of this.
		However, the tone he's using is completely different than at the beginning of the show, where he said that there were reports of bombs in schools, but that may not be true.
		Now things have a much more factual delivery from Alex, but what he's saying is the same unreliable fog of immediacy stuff.
		The plane in Pennsylvania didn't hit the airport.
		And I don't know if that was something that was even widely reported in error, but I could see some kind of miscommunication happening here.
		So I'm not going to be a huge dick about it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The other piece of information is a bigger problem.
		The U.S.-Canada and U.S.-Mexico borders were not closed in response to 9-11.
		Security was tightened as one would expect, but the fact that Alex is reporting that the borders are just sealed is definitely not correct.
		This, again, would be something I wouldn't be a huge dick about because I think that it also seems like the kind of information you could hear, and it makes sense on a day like that.
		It's also understandable as an error, some sort of a miscommunication.
		They could say they're clamping down on security and you should misinterpret it or whatever.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But then Alex says that next sentence: That's martial law, ladies and gentlemen.
		Sealing the borders is not martial law.
		You may think that a state that's in martial law would seal their borders, but it's not a defining characteristic of martial law at all.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why would you seal your borders?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That doesn't make sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, not let anyone in or out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, but that doesn't make sense in the long term.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
		Martial law is something that needs to be invoked, and it involves the military taking over governing and law enforcement operations, which traditionally are held by civilians.
		For instance, in 1954, Russell County in Alabama had been consumed by organized crime to the point where government corruption had made the existing political and law enforcement apparatus essentially a rogue entity, culminating with the deputy sheriff assassinating a candidate for district attorney who is seen as a threat to the racket.
		So the governor declared a limited martial law where the National Guard came in, took control, and cleaned things up.
		There are obviously more messy incarnations of martial law, but the principle is the same.
		Martial law requires that the civilian authorities are temporarily replaced by military authorities, and sealing the border does not qualify as that at all.
		This is a big deal because I really don't think Alex understands the concept of martial law at all.
		I think he just uses it as a scary buzzword to evoke negative feelings in the listeners, but it often doesn't seem relevant to the things he's discussing at all.
		Martial law is supposed to be his big thing, like his main topic of expertise, and I don't think he even understands it on a basic level.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, really, he wants to just say like totalitarianism.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But he can't quite say that it has to be martial law.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, he just wants to say he's scary cop.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, yeah, but it's like he still expects, you know, he thinks that Biden could be president during martial law.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, like he, you know, like all of those things don't match up with how martial law works.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Biden could appoint himself general.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's the head of the armed services.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So if right, right.
		And I understand the technicalities there, but I mean, you know what I mean here.
		He just means that there's complete and total control over what you can and cannot do.
		Not that the military is going to run things slightly differently.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I think, I agree.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I agree, but I think more specifically, I think it's just a catch-all word for like when cops are doing things that make me uncomfortable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, that is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like they wear black masks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is martial law.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They yell at you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is martial law.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Martial law.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They don't give you their names and bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, these are things the cops do that are inappropriate, maybe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it's not martial law.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not quite.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
		In fact, argue that some things could be in hindsight, should it ever get to that point, steps towards martial law.
		True, you could argue that right, but you don't know at this point necessarily if that's the the, the ultimate conclusion.
		Anyway, I don't think he understands the word at all, I agree.
		So Jim has another little piece of information that I find fascinating.
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		Right now, I can tell you, a third building that's across the street from the old towers, that's also in the World Trade Complex, is on fire.
		It's about a 50-60 story building.
		I can see fire through the windows on about well about halfway up the building around the 30th floor.
		The whole side of the building smoking on the side of the field.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So we now have a 50 to 60 story building on fire as well.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Do you know the name of that building?
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		It's one of the World Trade Center buildings.
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		It's probably like five or World Trade Center five or World Trade Center VI, something like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's Building 7.
		In the World Trade Center complex, there were a bunch of buildings, but it's important to understand their relative sizes.
		One and two were the Twin Towers, which were much taller than the others.
		Building three is the Marriott Hotel, and it was 22 stories tall.
		Buildings five and six were nine stories tall each.
		Building seven is the one that Jim is talking about for sure, given that it was 47 stories tall.
		And Jim mentioned that he's on a boat on the Hudson, and I did a bit of figuring out his vantage point, and he had to have been spent a little bit more time trying to geolocate where he would have been.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I don't think that any of the other buildings would have been visible to him other than Building 7 based on where his view would have been.
		The other ones would have been obscured by everything.
		Building 7 would fall beginning at approximately 5.20 p.m.
		So that's at least five hours after this call.
		The conspiracies that Alex would be pushing later characterize the fire in Building 7 as insignificant.
		But here, on Alex's own show, he has an eyewitness and friend of his reporting that the whole side of the building is smoking.
		Alex probably doesn't remember this part of that conversation, and it doesn't match his later information base.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
		Despoiled by your own friend.
		Terrible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it kind of makes Building 7 seem less like the smoking gun that it seems more like the smoking gun in the opposite direction.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a smoking building.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is not a time for puns.
		Anyway, Alex has another guest on.
		Sure.
		Boy, I'll tell you what.
		Heavy hitters.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Derry, thank you for holding, sir.
		You've been covering this stuff for years.
		You know, I've been on your show predicting this, warning people.
		I put out press releases on it that this was going to happen.
unidentified		And this is a good thing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Me, me, me, me, major pain on all of this, Mr. Brownfield.
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		You know, Alex, believe it or not, it did not shock me very much when all this happened today.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What is wrong with these people?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		So Derry Brownfield is a 70-year-old radio guy from Missouri who hosted a show that's described as, quote, agricultural news.
		I think it's less a show like breaking news about growing corn and more like news that's tailored towards the agricultural community.
		Except I'm not sure if that's the case.
		He started something called the Brownfield Network, which still exists.
		It's like a news distribution service for agricultural news.
		And if you go to their website, it's all about farmers.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The top headline when I was preparing this episode is, quote, rain comes at optimal time for Illinois farmer.
		That's Farmer Singular.
		This is an article about a guy named Stan Bourne who was thrilled that it rained because it helped his bean crop.
unidentified		This is the top headline on Derry Brownfield's website.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, yeah, so of course he's not surprised that 9-11 happened.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He has since passed, so someone else is maintaining the Brownfield.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is like indicative, maybe, of the news he was putting out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is such a fucking twist.
		I was really expecting it to go the opposite direction.
		I was expecting the agricultural news to be some sort of like smokescreen, you know, like Americans for prosperity.
		You're not really for prosperity.
		You know, like that kind of thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Some of it probably was right-wing weirdo conspiracy stuff, but I think a fair amount of it might have been like weevils are actually robots from the government.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that would be fun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, this old man doing farm news out of Missouri is apparently someone Alex had to get on to get his take on.
unidentified		And apparently, he does not give a shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He gives a shit, but he's like, I'm not surprised.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, but I mean, yes, this is an issue.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, but here's the thing: there's big news that Derry has to bring.
		It's Jerry, but with like a DPS.
		It's not like milk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I wasn't going to say it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Derry's got some big news that he has to bring to Alex's attention.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Alex, of course, already knows about this.
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		My original plan today was to talk with Charlotte Eiselbert.
		And I called her.
		She was one of the individuals that didn't know a thing about this until I contacted her.
		And I said, well, we need to change our programming.
		And she just called back a moment ago, and she said that her husband has a friend that's a Belgian, a Belgian businessman.
		And he said that all of Europe is full of the news that two men with Belgian passports entered into Afghanistan and killed Bin Laden two days ago.
		He says this is all over Europe, but not here in the United States.
		You heard anything about that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this is about Ahmad Shah Massoud, who was an Afghani who was an opponent of the Taliban.
		Massoud was assassinated on September 9th, 2001, by men who had fake Belgian passports.
		All of the details are lost on folks like Derry and Alex, who just want to fudge details in order to prop up their predetermined conclusion that everything is a conspiracy that only they can see through.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And there's no correcting of this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There is no, like, it comes up again later.
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it is two Belgians went into Afghanistan and killed Bin Laden.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Got to do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Europe's talking about it, but it's censored in the American news or whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like, you guys have this wrong.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Shouldn't you have a real good sense of something when Alex responds to you with, Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I guess.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Shouldn't that be a big red flag to you?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Didn't you be like, oh, this might be a red flag?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Red flag of like, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think I shouldn't be confident about what I'm hearing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think this is dice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		My instinct is to say yes, but I know that this is stupid, so I'm going to go with the yes.
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Derry has a bottom line.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What is your bottom line analysis?
		What's your gut-level feeling on all of this?
		Who do you think's behind it?
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, as far as I can't name names and give telephone numbers.
		But as I mentioned earlier in this show, and I have said it thousands of times on the air, I read the back of the book.
		And I'm referring here to the Holy Scriptures.
		I tried to get Hal Lindsay on earlier this morning to see what he thought about it, and I couldn't reach him.
		But we know that we're going to have a one-world order, a new world government.
		We know it's coming.
		We know the Antichrist is in the wing standing by.
		Oh, yes.
unidentified		Who he is?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know who he is.
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		But he certainly does have the power to clean all this mess up and make it wonderful.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So currently, the Antichrist is standing by.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Jesus.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like the Proud Boys.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That guy has got to be.
unidentified		Well, could be a woman as well.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have to say that I guess for Derry, he, I mean, he died at like almost 80.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The New World Order did not come into being.
		The devil didn't come back.
		Nope.
		He probably passed pretty like, oh, well, I didn't have to live through that.
		Probably is a relief.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Eh, I think I'd be disappointed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'd be furious if I had spent my entire life predicting the Antichrist was coming and then I just died like it was fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It would feel anticlimatic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It would be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, like, my last words would have been like, whoa, and then I'm dead.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or your last words should be like, I guess I'm the Antichrist then.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, you got to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would go, maybe an action movie, Antichrist this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, not going to work.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, yeah, we've got Alex's buddy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We got Derry and Alex as another guest.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's go to Ted Anderson, owner of Genesis Communications and of Midas Resources.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Gold's going to be more expensive.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I am very upset about all of this.
		My testosterone level is flowing just like yours are out there.
		Ted Anderson, God bless you, sir, for providing this network and a place for people to get accurate information.
		What's happening financially?
unidentified		Well, obviously, there's a lot of crazy mixed-up emotions going on in all the markets right now.
		With the World Trade Center, that is where gold and silver trades in the United States.
		It's the largest market for gold and silver.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was trying to be ghoulish with my exaggeration, but in fact, I was way wrong.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was not ghoulish enough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Pretty cynical.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I is crass.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Every time I think there's no bottom, I'm convinced there's no bottom.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it just keeps going.
unidentified		Boom, boom.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just keeps going.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just hit those floors.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a trap.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		First floor, men's shoes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Try this on for science.
		Try this on for ghoulish.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Going to ghoulish shoes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's do it.
unidentified		It's very amazing to me to watch this happen.
unidentified		I've never experienced this in the 23 years now that I've been in the business where the markets have actually been shut down like this and won't open up until further notice.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And the borders are now sealed.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Troops, federal troops are taking control of downtown cities under security arrangements.
unidentified		Well, obviously, Alex, a major concern right now is for the people that are sitting there in the paper wondering what's going to happen.
		Wait, Hold on, hold on, wait, wait.
		And hopefully the market stays stable and they can get out with reasonable costs.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But I'm told that there are already giant lines forming at the banks.
unidentified		Well, there's a bit of a stampede going on here at Midas Resources.
		And if you've been calling in on the 800 number, please be patient.
		We've got a lot of people working them, but you will be taken care of.
		There's a lot of people that are looking to have gold right now with the markets shut down.
		Obviously, in the United States, it's going to be much tougher to buy the stuff.
		You know, not every option is open to you anymore.
		So if you are calling in, do that.
		Just be patient.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So that line that you responded to also hit me like a semi-truck.
		Obviously, we should be concerned.
		And I thought he was going to say about people there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's no way that you could say those words on 9-11 and not finish it with, listen, you're already a gross monster because that's third on your list.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, we should be really concerned about the people who are stuck invested in paper money.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What the fuck?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What is wrong with this?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the number one thing that we should be concerned about is some people are just too liquid right now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Unbelievable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I just saw the, I mean, woof.
		One tower goes down and you think, a lot of people are going to be stuck in paper money.
		That's what I thought.
		That's what I thought, too.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's eye-opening.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he makes you realize how many people are in paper.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Jesus.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Jesus Christ.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's grim.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's just not enough lightning.
		There's just not enough lightning.
		I'm furious that people believe in God because I think if we all just believed in Zeus only, then maybe we could get one person struck by a lightning bolt whenever they pulled shit like this.
unidentified		It's amazing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Words fail.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It frankly does.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because this is like, you know, I mean, without mincing words, 9-11 is what made Alex's career.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And you go and listen to this show on the day of, he does not seem that concerned about gathering accurate information about what's happened.
		He's all over the place.
		He doesn't seem like he's emotionally all that affected by what's happening.
		Nope.
		And the guests that he has are Weirdo Farm Guy, friend who he has turned into the biggest structural engineer in the world.
		Yep.
		And his gold guy.
		Now, this is not great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, these are three certifiably insane people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, well, four of them, obviously, but one of them is well beyond that point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's tenured at insanity.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		These three people saying those things.
		Astonishing.
		Astonishing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that, Jim, you could make some argument for being less complicit because there were opportunities that Alex gave him to double down on some of his stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he was ambivalent.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		True.
		But like you mentioned, I do believe if you know Alex, you probably would know his tendencies.
		And you know that you're essentially doubling down by not pushing back.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex has some advice, and it's good advice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Get out of paper money.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Gas up your trucks.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I would tell everybody, make sure you've got your cars full of gas.
		Make sure you've got plenty of food, those water filters.
		If the martial law stuff starts cranking up, I'm going to go over to my parents' house, grab my dad around the scrub of the neck, and say, you're leaving the country, and you're taking my little sister out of here now, who's 16 years younger than me, and who's in high school.
		You're getting out of here, and you're leaving now.
		You're going to Costa Rica now.
		And I'm going to stay here and I'm going to fight for this country, for the United States, against Arab terrorists or anybody else.
		Jerry Brown Phil, will you stay with us?
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		You bet I will.
ted anderson ▲ ● ▼		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You bet I will.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is a great day for me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Derry has nothing else to do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, I'm having a fantastic time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I already watered the.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm trying to think of another bean.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, Dad, Costa Rica.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Dad, I've gassed up the truck.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Drive to Costa Rica.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's always amazing to me how these people handle emergencies because they have no concept of scale and reaction, you know?
		Like, you know, COVID.
		There's only going to be lone survivors.
		And then two weeks later, they're like, well, I'm not dead yet.
		So this isn't even real.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, they just, the Twin Towers has gone down.
		We need to run.
		Get out of this country.
		You got to get gas.
		You got to get frozen water.
		You got to go.
		Go.
		Get out of here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You mean ice?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I do mean ice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But simultaneously, also seems kind of bored by it already.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep, totally.
		They're like, eh, you know, well, what are we doing tomorrow?
		We getting Thai food?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex is just pumped, though, but it's just about fighting.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is, I just had a weird feeling.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Infowars.com for all the updates and all the news.
		Pilot's got 50 articles posted.
		The newest analysis.
		Everything's shutting down.
		The borders, you name it, martial law is here, and we're not going to let him get away with it.
		We'll be back in 60 seconds.
		Woof.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's gross.
		Wow.
		It's indicative of the tone.
		There just isn't any concern or acknowledgement of pain, acknowledgement of loss, acknowledgement that people who are listening are probably going through some shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Acknowledgement that some people are scared, confused.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, people in New York.
		You don't know, you haven't gotten a phone call from them.
		You don't know where they were that day.
		Their subway was filled with dust and shit.
		You don't know if they've got, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just disrespectful, honestly.
		I don't know other, there's a lot of other words, but that's one that just keeps coming back up.
		There's a lack of respect for the reality and the notion that we're all experiencing something together.
		You know?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe I'm too collectivist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe I'm a soft liberal in that way, but I just find it abhorrent.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		For weeks, there was no news organizations who would begin to speak this callously about for years.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		True.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No mainstream news organization would ever dare make a joke about 9-11.
		And this dude, fucking 20 minutes in between towers falling, is like, this is a great fucking day for us.
		Hey, I'm right about everything.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We got martial law going on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Everything is happening.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're fighting the globalists.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Holy shit, you come on back.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be a great day.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're going to go to station identification.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Pretty, pretty fucked up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I know that, you know, in 2008, 2009, when we've been listening to some of those episodes, about half of the police are waking up.
		And so that's good.
		And, you know, people in the army are waking up a little bit higher numbers there.
unidentified		Right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I know from like 2012, 2013, about half of the military and or you know, the police are woken up.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then in 2003, when we've been listening to some of those episodes, we have some great news, and that is that about half of the police are woken up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we have some news here in 2001.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Don't let them give you a police state out of it.
		We have the power, the American people, to all police agencies and military.
		I know that 75% of the military is awake to what's happening.
		About half the cops are.
		We need to pray for the people that have died.
		Our house go out to their families.
		And I would just pray here on the air: Lord, heal our land.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't do that.
unidentified		Don't.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We want this land to be healed.
		We don't want to be part of an evil system.
		We want our country to be brought back to its former decency.
		And please, God, we pray that no biological attacks are engaged in, as the government has been predicting would happen in Fox and ABC in the last month that I've read, where they talk about one to four million dead.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		God doesn't need citations from Fox News.
		That's not.
		That's weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow, Alex, Alex.
		So when you pray to me, I'm just going to toss this out of here.
		Now, I wrote it down a long time ago.
		So you should really know this by now.
		But don't also be broadcasting your opinions about bullshit to other people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's supposed to be a very specific relationship between you and me.
		I'm God.
		You're you.
		We do it that way, okay?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I believe that in Luke, I don't remember the exact verse, but there is something about like, when you pray unto me, provide sources.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
		I think it was Peter who in the letter to the Thessalonians said you should start a pirate radio station and really start getting into it with people.
		You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Slight correction.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I believe it was Paul who went to the Thessalonians.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fine, fine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Apologies.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I found that distasteful.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Gross.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's really fucked up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Derry has some interesting thoughts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		I was one of the people back a year and a half ago, whenever Y2K was, you know, at the turn of the time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry, what?
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		That believed that this was going to be, and I honestly thought in the deep in my heart that we were going to see something of this nature happen at the turn of the century, on maybe even on New Year's Eve.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But that was just a pretext for them to put in their FEMA bunkers and Friday man centers.
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		That's absolutely right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why 20 years ago?
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		Why didn't they go ahead and do it that night?
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		Because the world was ready for it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Also, Vladimir Putin had just taken power.
		Yeltsin had disappeared.
		A lot of power jockeying was going on.
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		But I still believe that this is the plan that they had for Y2K.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
		All right, Derry.
		All right.
		Okay, so here's what I gathered from that.
		One, whenever Y2K was is not an acceptable thing to say.
		It's in the name.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then it was kind of a long stretch for people like them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's fair.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Y2K was something they experienced for like the better part of a year.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, that's true.
		But then the second part is just, so this, it could have been 2010.
		Could have been 2020.
unidentified		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Could have been 2100.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You have decided that whatever happens after you've decided that Y2K is the plan, that's part of the plan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't think that, I mean, look, I'm going to be perfectly honest with you.
		Sure.
		I haven't listened to the entirety of Derry Brownfield's catalog.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think we're going to need to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		New podcast.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Farm Report.
unidentified		That'd be fun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, it wouldn't.
		No, it wouldn't.
		But I don't think that prior to Y2K, he was like, they're going to blow up the Twin Towers.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I really don't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he's just sort of retroactively being like, this is what I thought was going to happen.
		But also, you have to understand that on a really just grassroots, basic, nuts and bolts level, this means that this is what the globalists are planning to do.
		They didn't do it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so now they did it now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So it is 100% a gigantic conspiracy that somehow got, they had to pump the brakes on it for some reason.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Whenever Putin was jockeying, they were a year behind on their plans.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They couldn't get things up to speed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We know that their organization is lacking.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is kind of sloppy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's just face it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but there's sloppy or something.
		There's no way around the conspiracy groundwork here.
		It's an assumption that's cooked into every conversation that they're having.
unidentified		Totally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's silly.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this sounds very familiar.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They have the feds taking over central areas of downtown cities and capitals confirmed.
		This is the new world order.
		And look for them the next few weeks to say we need to turn in our guns so the terrorists don't blow up buildings.
		It'll be something along those lines.
		Regardless of who did this, only Big Brother stands to gain.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That didn't happen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, I was thinking about this, and he keeps saying that only Big Brother stands to gain.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I kept thinking like, you know who else stands to get you?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's why he's excited.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Not from the, like, obviously, I don't think that's a motive for Alex doing 9-11 or something, but Alex stands to gain greatly from behaving the way he is as we're listening to this.
		So, like, I don't know.
		If I were him, I would be thinking very little of my audience if I were stressing key bono kind of ideas because, you know, you might want to apply that to who gains from turning this into a conspiracy.
		People who profit off conspiracy shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Once you start doing that, though, then you're just never going to come back.
		You know, who's benefiting off of this sandwich that I'm about to eat?
		Is it me or is it Potbelly?
		I bet it's Potbelly.
		I bet Pot Belly's put evil shit inside my sandwich and they're going to kill me.
		And that's because they don't want the money from me going back.
		Wait a second.
		Who benefits from me buying this sandwich?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I do.
unidentified		Gary Brownfield!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex takes calls.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's interesting to get a little bit of a temperature.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I can't believe somebody would call.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I can't believe this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So when on 9-11, I was a huge fan of Love Line, and I listened to it every night.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Adam Carolla and Dr. Drew were my guys.
unidentified		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's unfortunate in hindsight.
		But I love that show.
		It made me feel very comforted.
		It felt like there were people who are struggling with stuff, and you're not as alone.
		Even if Adam is making fun of everybody and being a little bit mean.
		Really funny one.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's your friend who busts balls.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And on 9-11, I think even the day after, they just took calls about what people were feeling.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, like just opening up and being like, these kinds of fears and anxieties that you might be feeling are normal.
		Totally.
		And, you know, we're all in this kind of together.
		And it was really meaningful.
		And Alex doesn't do that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's the opposite.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like it makes it worse.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex taking calls makes things worse.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, I really, I find it so fucked up that Alex would take calls.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, that's unacceptable.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, here's the first one.
unidentified		Oh, boy.
unidentified		Now, listen, Alex, I'm not a Bible thumper.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
unidentified		At all.
		Okay?
		But just listen to me for a second, please.
		Because everyone listening can take their Bibles and look at this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God.
unidentified		Revelations 17 describes exactly what's taking place right now at this very moment.
		What happened in New York?
		Now, if you take the airlines.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Read it to us.
unidentified		Oh, my God, Alex, it's too long.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's huge.
unidentified		I mean, it's lots of words.
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it is too long.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Can't read it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's happening is exactly what's in there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you take the airlines out of it and you take the they didn't know what planes were.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Revelation 17.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And if you take that they didn't know that this continent existed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And if you take that they had never heard of, I don't know, the world, you know, any number of things.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're going an interesting direction, and that's not where he was going with if you take the airline.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He'll get into this here in a second.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It turns out it's actually numerology.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no!
unidentified		Okay, now, just here are the flight numbers: flight 11, flight 77, flight 175, and flight 33.
unidentified		Now, numbers is a language just like our language.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, 33, the occultist at Bohemian Grove and all of this are obsessed with it.
unidentified		Okay, you take these numbers and you add them together, and you get a total of 296.
		Now, you take 2 plus 9 is 11, plus 6 is 17.
		And in Revelation 17, it describes what's taking place.
		Now, I have no idea if it's coincidence or whatever, but still the numbers are there.
		The language is there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this is stupid, but it's also not correct.
		The flight he's saying is 33 is actually United 93, which ruins Alex's whole occult number riff.
		And it basically screws up his own weird cryptic math that he's trying to pull off here.
		Either way, this is a great use of time on the day the world changed.
		This is bad.
		Like, Alex should have cut him off when he started doing math.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is not like.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This isn't something that you should humor, but he lets him go on for a while.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And I mean, how are you not just like, sir, sir, sir, sir, stop it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Stop this right now, sir.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I understand you're trying to make connections and make things make sense, but you can't because that's what your whole thing is.
		Listen.
		It's just that this is a different, more unhinged or more detached from reality, more obviously detached.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How about I'm going to throw this out at you, sir?
		If God speaks in order of operations, addition and subtraction, then go fuck yourself.
		I don't even want that God.
		So if you are right, I'd rather worship the devil than a God who's like 2 plus 4 is 6 and 6 minus 3 is 3, and that's where the devil comes from.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And God saith unto me, please excuse my dear Aunt Sally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And God said, X parentheses 1 plus N, you moron.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I find this very depressing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Partially because he's got the flight number wrong.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that really fucks with his whole revelation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it also fucks with Alex's thing because the thing that he attached or he took from it was the 33.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's incorrect.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So we.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But even if it is, Revelation 17 doesn't describe what's going on right now.
		Also, 17, what are we doing here?
		Q, 17th number, QAnon, boom.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow, you're right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, at one point, Derry is talking about a small town in Missouri named Sandy Hook.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It's just a short mention.
		It doesn't mean anything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's like, you know, New York's a bigger town than like Sandy Hook, Missouri.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry, Dan, on this show, if there are things that are even slightly, perhaps not tangentially related, we're going to have to make a conspiracy out of that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fine.
		I'll find the clip and play it on the next episode of Derry saying Sandy Hook.
		Thank you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much.
		All right.
		Because whenever Y2K happened or whatever, we knew.
		That's all I got.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex takes another call, and this is bad.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Those buildings went straight down.
		John, what do you see happening?
		They're really gearing up.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
		Life has changed.
		I don't think we can accept what we've expected.
		I don't think that there's anything new to make of all of this.
		It's the world turned upside down.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So what are you going to do?
unidentified		I'm going to clean my weapon, man.
unidentified		I'm going to clean my weapon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't you do that.
unidentified		My only worry is that I don't want to go alone.
unidentified		I'm not afraid to go, but I just don't want to go by myself.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
unidentified		These people, these government agents, they ought to be ostracized.
		First, they ought to be identified, and then they ought pictures and posters ought to be publicly displayed.
		They ought to be ostracized in the church and everywhere else.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		John, I appreciate your call.
		We don't know if the government did this.
		We know they did the other ones.
		We know they kept telling us it was going to happen, and we know who stands to gain.
		I know this, though, ladies and gentlemen, I'm not going to any FEMA center.
		What about you?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's legitimately nuts to listen to this because it seems like Alex is in many ways on autopilot.
		This whole song and dance here is so cookie-cutter that it almost doesn't seem like you'd need to be awake to do it.
		He already said that he believes 98% chance the government did this and then later said the government did do this.
		But this caller is saying things that get into violence.
		So Alex decides to hedge a little bit by saying, we don't know who did this, but we also kind of know who did this, wink-wink.
		And also, I'm not going to let them take me alive.
		It's really the same couching type of presentation he does all the time.
		And it's really weird to see it being deployed when talking about the biggest event of his life, which happened a few hours earlier.
		It seems weird to say this, but I don't get a strong sense that Alex cares that much that 9-11 happened.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think he gives a shit at all.
		It's weird.
		It is one of the weirder things that I, of all the things that I was expecting Alex's 9-11 episode to be, apathetic was not one of them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it's more cynical than apathetic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, that's what we're.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's definitely a line of apathy that goes a deep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A streak of it.
		Like Pepe LePue's white streak.
		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So look, he believes that it's the government.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's already said that it was the government.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It was.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		98% chance then 100%.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But we don't know that for sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just know that everything that would point to the government means the government did it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's another suspect.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Uh-oh.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, there's one person that might be able to pull this off, but everything he does is tapped.
		And that is Saddam Hussein.
		Why this government ever put him in power in the 70s?
		Why he was our big buddy to fight Iran.
		Why he was giving him the chemical and biological weapons from Houston.
		If Saddam did do this, and there is a chance that this is not the government, that it is Saddam Hussein.
		I want that country nuked, and I want to start what?
		And the question is: why didn't they take Saddam out in 1991?
		I asked you that question.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fair enough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I guess he's into blaming Iraq sooner than George W. Bush.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was fast.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is fast.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it seems really not like what Alex likes to present himself, that he would be like, I want them nuked immediately.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean, I don't want you to be emperor of anywhere if that's your response.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Why would that work out well at all?
		Like, shouldn't you recognize the amount of civilian death that would cause the pointlessness of that response?
		Like, that's fucked up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, people don't understand that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But Alex is supposed to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, he's a peace guy.
		I think we need to go back to everybody being really, really terrified of nuclear weapons.
		We need to show kids the bombs in schools like they did.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's unfortunate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fucking cover should.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know it doesn't help, but it should be instilled into children to be way more afraid of nuclear weapons than we apparently are.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's unfortunate that a lot of that stuff was so silly that it becomes mockable.
		Sure.
		You know, you might have a tendency to take lightly the effects of the modern weaponry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, when I was researching for my book, How to Make a Nuke.
		No, no, no.
		When I was researching it, I found out that most of the missile corps, not most, but like a massive chunk of them are always high.
		And the people who, and all the computers are from the 1980s, like, it is terrifying if you look into what it's crazy.
		It's crazy.
unidentified		People are still using punch cards to control nuclear weapons in 2022.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's bananas.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm into it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That means it's less hackable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And they're doing ecstasy, so it's pretty cool.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hell yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hell yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, you got to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
		Totally.
		Have you ever gone down into there?
		The silos are terrifying.
		It's crazy if you're not on the street.
		Absolutely.
		You got it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex takes another call.
		And this guy, this is a little bit of a longer clip, but I wanted to play it in sort of full.
		This guy disagrees with Alex about some of the premises that he's coming forth with.
		And this flusters Alex to a point that he ends up making a totally bizarre claim at the end of this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead, Bill.
unidentified		Well, I don't see, first of all, I don't think this is government-sponsored.
unidentified		That's my opinion.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
unidentified		Secondly, I don't see how an act like this is going to help with illegal immigration and the movement towards that.
unidentified		If anything, if anything, I think it's going to make people refocus on why illegal immigration is so bad.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's the point I've made.
		They tell us to give up our rights and drive through checkpoints and live in the heartland, but then they've got the borders wide open and for us, and then have been advertising how open we are to terrorist attack.
		That in and of itself is a grand crime.
unidentified		No question.
		And I think that people will get refocused on that, and I think they're going to have a really tough time modifying the law.
		I really don't see martial law being declared.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sure, it's already central emergency, and I've got dozens of the states.
unidentified		But Alex, this is a normal response to a major issue.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, so are you in the military?
unidentified		I used to be.
		Okay.
		I'm a retired officer.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, we support the military.
		Most of the troops I know agree with the analysis we have here.
		We don't know who's done this, but are you telling me how someone bin Laden could coordinate all of these, These four attacks.
unidentified		Well, I'm telling you that there are lots of people who are mercenary for hire that have been in covert activities for many countries.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		A mercenary is going to fly a plane into a building.
unidentified		No, you didn't let me finish what I was saying.
unidentified		I believe that there are enough tentacles by organizations throughout the world and have enough finances and connections to pull off something like this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I will say this.
		There's a good chance Europe could be behind this.
		They're rolling out their Euro right now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The Euro?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The full currency in two and a half months.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the Euro is what caused 9-11.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So now Alex has decided that it's like he's so thrown by this guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like he can't impugn him by being like, oh, you're not even in the military.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		These kinds of standard attempts to make him not appear to know anything fail.
		And so I guess, you know what?
		Maybe it's the fucking EU.
		They're rolling out the Euro, so they attack our symbol of the economy.
		What do you got?
		Oh, it all makes sense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is a little bit like if a blindfolded kid kept trying to hit a piñata and eventually the piñata just couldn't break it.
		And so then they just hugged.
		So that's what happened there.
		He was like, well, I guess I just believe Europe killed everybody then.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, you don't agree with the crazy stuff I'm saying.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I'm going to say something crazier.
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		How about that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		How do you like that?
unidentified		What do you got?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How do you do it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So weird.
unidentified		Do you want to nuke Europe now?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I love the response to, I don't think martial law is going to be.
		It's already happened.
		I love that for any question like that.
		And I really don't think that they're going to ban cigarettes and time.
		They already banned them.
		Like, okay, all right, man, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and there's also two things that have already come up that are interesting counter-arguments to the ideas that Alex is expressing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The first is when Jim was on and he was talking about how there was a long delay between the crash and the plan or the buildings falling.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That was almost like they were giving time for civilians to evacuate.
		And Jim does bring up the point that it's almost as if there would have been time for emergency first responders to be there and they were the main target of the attack, which would lead one to believe that that is a nefarious plan of a terrorist organization wanting to take out firefighters and police, infrastructure people, as opposed to just civilian death.
		That is unexamined by Alex, how that would be a motive not of the globalists, but of terrorists.
		Second, this caller is bringing up the idea that immigration would become a much larger issue in the wake of a foreign terrorist attack.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And it sure did.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that would not be in the interest of the globalists, as Alex has presented them, because they want all the immigrants to come in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They want the borders wide open.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		And so this doesn't fit from a motive standpoint.
		And this also isn't fully examined on this, but they are lingering, hanging questions that just are ignored.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And, and let me throw this one out there at you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Osama has already attacked the World Trade Center.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But Alex doesn't believe that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And not just that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He is incredibly rich.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		True.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He has connections all over the world.
		He has infiltrated most terrorist organizations.
		And if not, yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And when that guy was saying that there are groups of mercenary tendrils and stuff, I think that what happened in Alex's mind is like, what are organizations that I hate?
		The EU.
		There are a bunch of men.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They probably hire merchants.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That sounds kind of like what he's saying.
unidentified		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The EU did it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex ends up going down this road quite a bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's see what happens.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's just a travesty.
		And Europe may be behind this.
		There is a Fissure.
		There is an internal struggle between the New World Order right now.
		Germany runs the EU.
		They swore the annihilation of the U.S.
		They put people into power to take over this country.
unidentified		What?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And it's in between Muslim terrorists being provocateur and allowed to do this.
		It's in between our government doing it, and it's in between the EU doing it.
		Frankly, I'm starting to lean towards the EU and that power block that runs a lot of our news here.
unidentified		Wow.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was so fast.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		98% sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The government did it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The government did it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nah, I'm leaning towards you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can't just sit down.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look, dude, I had a weird phone call, and now I think the EU did it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now I'm going to be honest with you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's about 98% sure Europe did it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's amazing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Who's Europe?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Did Germany install presidents?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Germany.
		What?
		Germany swore the debts of the United States.
		Everybody knows that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Is this in World War II?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
		It was a few years ago.
		It was a few years back.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		What?
		I have no idea.
		I don't know.
		This is whip.
		I could not have been less prepared for it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		See, this is why you go back to the past.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You find things you never really expect.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I got T-voned by Europe.
		That's what's going on here.
		Jesus.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, one of the things I think is really fun about this broadcast is that Alex is like juggling guests.
		Sure.
		Like, Jim was on earlier.
		He comes back.
		Oh, Terry was on earlier.
		He comes back.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so Jim's back now, and Alex is upgrading this banter about the EU.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And listen carefully to the way he expresses this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Did you ever think you'd see this in the United States?
jim wright ▲ ● ▼		No, I really didn't.
		You know, we've been kind of always conditioned to believe this is the one place we haven't had any overt, at least foreign terrorism.
		And I'm presuming this is foreign.
		Who knows?
		Maybe it's internal, maybe not.
		But yeah, we feel pretty insulated against that country.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're getting the analysis that it may be the EU.
		They're rolling out analysis.
		It's already a dollar.
		They're distributing world currency to Africa, Middle East, and Asia.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're getting analysis.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then suddenly our financial center is brought down.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We've been in two wars with Europe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Buddy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is sad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're getting analysis by which I mean 10 minutes ago, I tossed out the idea of EU randomly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		10 minutes ago, I talked some shit.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now we're getting an analysis.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're getting an analysis.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We've got several think tanks who heard me talk shit, and then they were like, wait a second, and they looked into it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The Heritage Foundation has just called my cell phone and told me that they did.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We got some analysis.
		We're getting analyzed.
		There's more analysis on the ground being done right now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Outrageous.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We've sent somebody from InfoWars to Belgium to see if that story's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Brussels, suspiciously silent on the issue of whether or not they did 9-11.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Brussels has yet to respond to our did you do 9-11.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No comment from Leo Zagami as of yet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's because he's in hiding.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Derry is not in hiding.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He comes back.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Gotcha.
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		The United Airlines confirms that Flight 175 from Boston to L.A. has crashed with 56 passengers and nine crew members abroad.
		Emergency personnel at the scene say there are no survivors.
		Why are these airplanes crashing?
		Do you have any idea, Alec?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now, is this a plane other than the four that went into the trade center into Pittsburgh and into the Pentagon?
unidentified		I don't have any idea.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, we know they've got fighter jets scrambled everywhere.
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		So they could have shot the thing down, you suppose.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we'll probably never know.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's something they're not going to ever announce.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		These guys have nothing to say, and this is not good radio.
		You have a guy who's running late to do the wheat report, giving Alex updates on stuff that neither of them have any context for.
		So, you know, instead of sorting the information out, Alex just dismisses it all away by saying it's probably a conspiracy, and we'll never get the truth about this.
		It's legitimately pathetic and almost self-parody.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		United 175 was the plane that hit the South Tower or World Trade Center 2.
		I believe that Derry is getting some intel wrong, and he's actually talking about United 93 that crashed, but the number of passengers that he cites actually matches 175.
		So I don't know what's going on.
		He might have the number wrong, or there's something that got missed in translation.
		Either way, this is a pointless dissemination of half-correct information that only serves to kind of bore and annoy Alex.
		He seems to be taking this whole national tragedy pretty well.
		He seems like he wants to go home.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This was the first time I honestly related to anybody on this show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Whenever he was like, I don't know what's going on, I was like, that is the first legitimate, acceptable phone call to have.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that moment that Derry has where it's like, why are these planes crashing?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It sounds stupid to us now, but at a point you wouldn't have known that they were attacked.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, like, obviously that's an assumption that you could make, but, like, yeah, there is a reason for at this time of day for Derry to be like, I don't know why they're crashing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what's going on.
		Right.
		That is the most human response I can think of right here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I don't want to make fun of that too much because I think it is normal, but it also doesn't serve to help a radio show that's supposed to be disseminating news and information.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		See, I am screaming in this scenario.
		I'm screaming, I don't know what's going on.
		So I'm going to go to the news for information about what's going on.
		I do not want to go to the news and see me screaming, I don't know what's going on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then Alex waves and Alex is like, something's happening.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a conspiracy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You'll never know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex got that caller.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was talking about some numerology.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I really wish he didn't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex is going to get into a little of his own.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, if they don't attack somebody and level entire countries will be attacked daily.
		In Florida, a pair of education speeches, the president scrapped his schedule and said that the first reports of attacks on New York came up for the board and said that 9 stands for judgment and 11 for disorder.
		Really?
		And it shows how the globalist, everything is 33.
		Everything is 7-Eleven.
		All of these occultic numbers.
		That makes sense as well.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm making this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That does make sense.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, look at all this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Look at the flight numbers, 33.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's not accurate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not one of the flight numbers.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What's 7-Eleven?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		7 is heaven, and 11 is the number of minutes that you...
		Wait, no.
		What?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The 7-Eleven wasn't a flight number.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's 9-11.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		7-Eleven's a store.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What does that have to do with this?
unidentified		I couldn't get anything to eat at 7-Eleven.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They were out of the good stuff.
		It's brutal.
		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Brutal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, all they had left was the flaming hot nacho Doritos.
		It didn't have the Clover Ranch.
		Harrump.
		I know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's brutal.
		I wanted a donut.
		So Alex has some more bad predictions here.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we could see nuclear war within the day.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		In fact, I had a report last night that we covered.
unidentified		No.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That Israel's very upset saying Iran now has nukes and the missiles deliver them.
		It's just, folks, this could be the beginnings of Armageddon.
		I hate to say that, but we certainly have the ingredients, don't we, Derry?
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		Well, it looks like it, doesn't it?
		And you've heard me say time and time again, once you read the back of the book, you begin to see a different picture.
		And you look at the overall picture.
		I'd definitely say we are in the end time.
		I believe it's right as well, Alec.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Great.
unidentified		Good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fantastic.
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		That doesn't mean the end.
		That means the start of the good stuff.
		Yes.
		You see what I mean?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's not good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is there any.
unidentified		The end of the world for us is good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We are excited about the idea of the possibility of nuclear war kicking off tonight and this being our McGedden.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I just want that makes sense for his apocalyptic version of Christianity.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		Can we have one national or world or even local tragedy that is not evidence that we're in the end times?
		Just one.
		I just don't want to know that we're in the end times every single time.
		How many end times are we going to be in, man?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So many.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I've been in so many end times.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's a limit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So I had this really interesting thought of a way that I would like to talk to Alex.
		Sure.
		If I ever were to.
		I know that he has a lot of evidence that 9-11 happened.
		And he has a lot of videos that he's posted.
		It's an inside job.
		Sure, There's a lot of videos that he has posted that are like smoking gun evidence because I get the title of it.
		Right.
		And so I would bring up, I'd like to talk to you about this article, Smoking Gun Evidence That 9-11 was an inside job.
		What is this about?
		It's a smoking gun.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You just tell me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What is it about?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You just tell me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Guarantee, like, he would guess wrong.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because there have been a hundred articles.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or even like, you know, smoking gun, COVID is a killer, COVID vaccine kills.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which one?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What is the smoking gun?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which smoking gun is this one?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You'd never get it right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would just put him in a room that had the floor covered in guns and 30% CO2.
		And then we could really get to the bottom of all of his issues.
		Is CO2 good for you?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Turns out not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How many floors can you have?
		How many guns can you have on a floor?
		That's another question he has.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Alex and Derry, this gets back to where you were talking earlier about how it seemed like they looked at this as like a righteous punishment.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is where it really gets into that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And this feels really messed up.
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		The true believers are looking forward to this next thousand years.
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		So again, you have to have studied this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This would also be part of the birth pains.
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And if people don't understand this, I caught world leaders.
		It's been in Esquire magazine.
		It's been in the Press Democrat front page, mainstream San Francisco paper.
		It's been on national television in Europe.
		I snuck in and caught world leaders in black and red robes worshiping the devil.
		So why are you offended by us talking about how we're Christians and how our Bible tells us this would happen in detail?
		And we're kooky, but world leaders can dance around worshiping Moloch.
		I mean, if world leaders are worshiping the devil, we're going to be judged.
		Nations are judged.
		That is the bottom line.
		Would you agree, Mr. Brownfield?
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		And that's what I said earlier today.
		I think I've said it two or three times on national radio that it's difficult for me to pray for America today.
		I can pray for God's people, and I can pray that as many people are going to be saved as they possibly can.
		But when our own children cannot go to a public American government school and stand up and sing God bless America, how can God bless America?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I think the fetal tissue is part of it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I think trading with China, giving them the Olympics when they kill their political dissidents and blew up 450 churches totally last year when they're murdering the Tibetans.
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		Well, go a little, go closer to home.
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		How about all the murdering we're doing to our own children?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		The drugging of them, the abortion.
		We're being judged, ladies and gentlemen.
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, this is sadly.
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		I think it's just the beginning, Alex.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And decadent societies are always judged.
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		Well, they have been, and they will continue to be.
		You guys are exactly right.
		I'll leave you alone.
unidentified		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Darren.
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		Blessed is the nation that believes in God, you know.
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		And cursed is the ones that don't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so 9-11 was a political punishment from God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is no different than Pat Robertson's kind of shit people mocked rightfully.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		I'm going to throw this out at you.
		Okay.
		Did you ever notice how God is exactly as dumb as the people talking about God?
		You know, like it is so crazy to me that we can hear Alex say, I want them nuked.
		And then we can hear him talk about his God just nuking people whenever he feels like they need to be.
		It's so crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's an interesting other sort of branch that goes off these thoughts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that is that God is right and God is infallible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so if God's judgment for the political decisions that you disagree with is doing a 9-11, that kind of implies that you want to do that to people to punish them for things like abortion.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it is almost like the people in those planes flying into those buildings justified their behavior almost exactly the same way you just justified their behavior.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How crazy is that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There are weird wrinkles, but it was the EU.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I forgot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This show is a mess.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is a can you understand why we have to do these as separate things?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		Absolutely.
		I don't know what's happening.
		We were 98% sure it was the government, and now it's the EU.
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm half convinced it's going to be Squatch by the end of the day.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's got to be Squatch.
		It's got to be the Squatch.
		There's only one hero for us, and that's the Squatch.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this is dumb.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		American people don't even know what war is.
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		To my knowledge, this is the first time there has ever been an attack on American soil other than the British.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Then you should learn more.
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		What are you talking about in modern history?
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		Anything that anybody can remember.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		We went through two world wars and never was attacked.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not true?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we had some German agents blow up a weapons dump in New York, but the media never covered that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They said it was an accident.
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Pearl Harbor, dumb-dumb.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was going to say, you realize that that big attack, the biggest attack that literally anybody could remember before this point.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that was big.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was huge.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was on American soil, see?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I guess there's some kind of maybe Alex doesn't look at non-mainland America.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, fine, fine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If we're just going to make arbitrary rules about fucking everything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's inappropriate.
		Hawaii is part of the United States.
		Not just U.S. soil that was attacked.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Doesn't count.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I understand that he thinks that's a false flag, too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's fair.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But still, it happened.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, also, the fucking earlier bombing of the World Trade Center.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, you remember that one?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, Derry should learn more.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I do appreciate anytime somebody.
		It's the only one I can remember.
		And then you can just be like, well, learn.
		Go find more.
		There are.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So at this point, Alex does a reset, recaps the news in case you're joining late.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I just don't know what to say to any of it.
		For those who are tuning in that don't know what we're talking about, four planes, both the World Trade Center towers with tens of thousands of people in them have collapsed, hit by large passenger planes.
		A plane hit the Pentagon, blowing up a large portion of that and catching it on fire.
		And then outside Pittsburgh, PA, one swam into their international airport, probably shot down by fighters.
		Fighters are swarming everywhere.
		Four carriers have delivered their payload of planes out into the air.
		We've got jets scrambled everywhere.
		They're flying around here in Texas right now above us.
		And they're declaring civil emergency and putting the feds out on the streets in major capital cities.
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		Why would they be flying over Austin, Tech?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I was outside earlier and there goes a jet flying by.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this is interesting because later on, part of Alex's conspiracies will revolve around why didn't they scramble jets.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so here he is reporting four things have deployed their payload and he personally saw fighter jets scrambled over Austin.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I guess he just forgot about that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or maybe he's making it up here and he knows that he can just retcon it whenever he feels like that must be a really comforting thought to be able to just be like, listen, I'll just say that this is different.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like not, imagine you don't even have to fix it in post.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's like you do the show, it says something, and then you're just like, ah, I tell you it didn't.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And that's it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And that's fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's basically like if you're doing a sitcom and like it's episodic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So every episode is a new set of circumstances.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Consequences don't necessarily carry over.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Bart Simpson is still 12 years old.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But you can carry some things over.
		You get to choose what is reset and what isn't.
		And then the audience is just like, yeah, this makes sense.
		It's jarring.
		It's fucking jarring.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It breaks my brain.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's narratively untenable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In one episode, it's narratively.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You have to just not pay attention.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You have to passively let this wash over you or else you're fucked.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this is really a bad call here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex takes a call and it really kind of pissed me off.
unidentified		I think this obviously shows that the United States immigration policy is flawed.
		The borders of this country should have been closed down or restricted many, many, many moons ago.
		Obviously, these terrorists were able to get in this country.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And they're not going to do that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're going to track and trace you and your family biometrically to some stand to get food as they're already putting them in, and the borders are going to be wide open, brother.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you're paying any attention, this is a pretty big reveal that Alex mostly just talks out of his ass.
		Here, the caller suggests that borders should have been closed long ago so they could keep immigrants out, and Alex agrees.
		But earlier, Alex was erroneously reporting that the borders had been sealed in response to the attacks, and that was martial law.
		Sealing the borders up is good when it's a part of Alex's xenophobic fantasies, but it's bad when it's a theoretical part of a country responding to a giant terrorist attack.
		You can pretty easily see the flaws in Alex's thinking and how this lacks any real consistency.
		But this clip is actually worse than that.
		When he's riffing around with this caller about how bad immigration is, Alex says that the government isn't going to close the borders because they just want to track and trace your family.
		But we've already established as a confirmed piece of Alex's reporting that the borders have been sealed, which is part of it's being framed as part of the martial law takeover.
		That detail of Alex's coverage is now inconvenient for his more important talking point about how bad immigration is, so he just ignores it.
		This is how information works in Alex's world.
		Something can be presented as a fact in order to scare the audience about how the police state is here, and then without any explanation, the opposite can be presented to scare the audience about immigration.
		What's important to recognize here is the claim and the negation of the claim, which is to say reporting that the borders are sealed and also saying they never would close the border.
		It's wide open, both serve the same purpose, which is why it doesn't matter to the audience that they're contradictory and on the surface would make Alex's show incoherent.
		Both of these center on the listener and the white conservative Christian American listener in general, and it centers them as the victim.
		If the border is being sealed, it's because that's martial law and they're coming to take your guns and put you in a FEMA camp because you're a conservative white Christian American.
		If it's the border is never going to be sealed, it's because they want to solve the problem of foreign terrorism by tracking and tracing your family instead of stopping immigrants from coming into this country.
		Both of these ideas that Alex is pitching satisfy the emotional need to be under attack that he and his audience are addicted to.
		It doesn't matter if these things make no sense because they're not meant to.
		They emotionally resonate with the thing that people come to Alex for.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that is really, really like, I don't know if it's because the intensity of the event that he's covering, but it becomes so clear in stark contrast that Alex can simultaneously be reporting that the government has sealed the borders and it's martial law and we should seal the borders because otherwise it's a conspiracy to attack mainstream America with immigrants.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just, it's nonsense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, if I were an American, I would have closed the borders right around the time of the First Crusade and then saved yourself a lot of fucking trouble.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I find this to be unacceptable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it is really illustrative.
		And I think that you can learn a bit about how to process a lot of the ways that other narratives that seem weird on his show, why they're there.
		Sure.
		And how a lot of this is navigated.
		It centers the listener as the aggrieved one, the one who is put upon by whatever the larger conspiracy is.
		Some of the function of conspiracies is to make things that are complicated make sense or give some sense of comfort in a chaotic world, but some of it is also to make you feel like to just agitate you into a frenzy, to always be in a fight-or-flight mode with your adrenal glands fucking pumping into your brain.
		And to give an excuse for why maybe you're not as happy as you want to be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		For sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		For sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because there's a massive conspiracy that centers on the identity that you are.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And a massive excuse for why you believe that they're coming to kill you and all you're doing is sending him money.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it rationalizes fairly extreme politics because the alternative is submitting to the people who are going to kill you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Lesser of two evils.
		Sure.
		You've always got to vote for the lesser of two evils.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, in this next clip, it's just, this is the core of what this becomes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it is just victim fetish.
unidentified		Aren't our major government facilities protected at all by our Air Force?
unidentified		It doesn't seem like it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're going to pull housewives out of their cars at military checkpoints like we've already been doing in Texas and Tennessee.
		That's on my website, mainstream news stories.
		That's not.
		That will stop me, terrorists.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't worry.
unidentified		Hold on.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Don't worry about the Chinese military in the Panama Canal.
		The threat is the housewife that has an old revolver in her closet.
		Mr. Brown, Phil, any comments?
		Thanks for the call, Wally.
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		Not really.
derry brownfield ▲ ● ▼		I tell you what, I have a meeting downtown in about 45 minutes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, you better go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's about as impassioned as you've seen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And that guy's a response of like, hey, anyways, it's 9-11.
		I got to get to a meeting.
		Bye.
		Crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		But Darry's got to go.
		He's got this meeting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so Alex needs another bro to come in.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so Ted comes back.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Naturally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And this clip was depressing because it starts with Ted giving voice to one of the very few times in this entire show that concern and humanity is really expressed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then it goes bad.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Are you blown away like I am?
unidentified		Oh, God.
ted anderson ▲ ● ▼		And my heart goes out to the people first thing.
unidentified		I mean, I just think this is your second appearance.
		It's a cool thing or having a family member caught up in this thing.
		And it just, it just, it's mind-boggling to think of the tragedy that just occurred.
ted anderson ▲ ● ▼		But, you know, then it's a financial institution.
unidentified		You know, that those two buildings were worth a tremendous amount of money.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
unidentified		And the investors that were put the money behind that particular thing, it's a poor investor.
ted anderson ▲ ● ▼		In the financial industry, there's no question about it.
unidentified		I mean, basically, you know, billions of dollars have just been lost within a matter of seconds.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right as the EU Euro gets out of the world are going online and being delivered.
ted anderson ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, but that's one of the reasons why a lot of people get into gold, because there could be gold sitting in the basement of that building, and after they dig the rubble out, the gold's still valuable.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God.
		Yeah.
		But, I mean, on one hand, it is more empathetic than, or at least it begins more empathetic than pretty much all of this show so far.
		But yeah, it goes pretty quickly to financial conversation.
		But some of that, I think, is why you just wouldn't want to have him on on that day, because I think that's the world he's in.
ted anderson ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so that's one of the ways he processes the event is my livelihood and my entire life is based around commodities trading in precious metals and currency.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, their God King on the day said, now I have the tallest building.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was kind of wondering if that would come up on the episode.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That would be really interesting.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not on his day show.
		Oh, man.
		But yeah, I think that's why you just, I mean, I understand Ted's your boss and he runs all the companies and stuff, but like it's not, it's not necessarily it looks tacky.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Unless your show is entirely financial based.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or if you have a segment like 10 minutes of every hour is the Ted Corner, the TED Talk.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he could have branded that before.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He could have gotten there way earlier.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What an asshole.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Then that makes some sense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We got the financial minute with Ted.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But this just looks gauche.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The thing that blew me away was: won't someone think of the landlords?
		Please.
		Won't someone please think of the landlords who are the most aggrieved and bereaved today.
		Jordan, but here's the thing.
		That was fucked up.
		But here's what got me.
		Here's what got me.
		And that's why you buy gold.
		Because even if they put gold at the bottom of the World Trade Center, you can dig that up.
		That's still valuable.
		If you are selling me gold under the Twin Towers on 9-11.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You could have used an example like a pirate ship or something.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is the most.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's using the image of the tragedy in order to promote the value of the thing you sell.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that sucks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Anyways, Yankees Red Sox tonight.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That sucks too.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The other thing that I was thinking about, too, is like, okay, obviously this looks bad and is gross.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But at the same time, you do have to accept that the people who own the building, the business interests that were affected by it, it's not a non-issue because now's not the time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now is not the time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You handle accounting issues days later.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, that said, the gold underneath the Trade Center is the selling point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's unacceptable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I can't believe it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not just that it's not the time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is never the time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm shocked that a human being could do that.
		Yeah.
		I would never, ever in a minute.
		I can promise you, for as creative as my mind may or may not be, never would I have gotten to here's my sales pitch.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think if you were asked to write, like, what do you think Alex's show on 9-11 is like, you couldn't imagine that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't have imagined that.
		No.
		I would never in a million years have thought that he would have said that.
		That's amazing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he goes off air after a few more pointless calls.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And here is our last clip from Alex's show from the day of 9-11.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you think any Arab country would really do this and want to be turned into a parking lot?
		If they were going to do that, they would have nuked Israel and Iran now has nukes.
		Well, Syria has nukes.
		Why wouldn't they go ahead and do that?
		No, no, no, no.
		Ben La?
unidentified		I don't think so.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		His CIA asset.
		I believe the EU was involved in this.
		There is a fissure.
		There is a tectonic power struggle in the New World Order right now.
unidentified		Well, I don't believe that this was done by the Arabs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we have at the end of Alex's broadcast day for his daytime show, the conclusion that the EU is probably involved.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		9-11 EU job.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this is, I mean, like, honestly, it's hard to sum this up because it's so weird.
		You'd kind of expect it to be weird given that it is the day of, there's unfolding information.
		But here's the other thing that's blowing my mind.
		The unfolding information does not affect the broadcast that much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If at all.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Outside of a couple of things that Derry brings to his attention, some of which are not accurate at all, some are half accurate.
		Outside of that, there's not much, like, in terms of updates that are being incorporated.
		It's kind of shit talking.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		I think I can sum up the episode pretty well.
		And it's 33 plus 175 minus 16 plus, well, actually, minus 93 because they got that one wrong.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, actually, minus 60 because they got 33 right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So that puts us at, where do, have you been keeping track of this?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, but I like where you're going with it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're cooking with gas.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		42.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		Yeah.
		So 98% chance it's the inside job.
		Yep.
		It was the government for sure.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now it's the EU, probably.
		So we, much like Alex, will be taking a break.
		He goes off air and then comes back at 9 that evening.
		And we will be back on Wednesday to go over what's changed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We'll see.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Is it still the EU?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Does Alex still think we deserved it?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God knows.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But until then, Jordan, we do have a website.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's knowledgefight.com.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We are on Twitter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's at knowledge underscore fight at GoToBed Jordan.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We'll be back.
		But until then, I'm Neo.
		I'm Leo.
		I'm DZX Clark.
		I'm Derry Brownfield.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And now here comes the sex robot.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy in Kansas.
		You're on the air.
		Thanks for holding.
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm a fish Tim Color.
unidentified		I'm a huge fan.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love your work.

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