#688: May 25, 2022
Today, Dan and Jordan continue to track Alex's response to the Uvalde shooting. In this installment, Alex treads water for a bit, and leans on his callers to bring some weirdness to the conversation. Citations
June 2, 2022 - Knowledge Fight
01:29:56
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan, knowledge fight. | |
| I need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| In Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your room. | ||
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KnowledgeFight. | |
| KnowledgeFight.com. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to KnowledgeFight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
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I'm Jordan. | |
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are. | ||
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Dan. | |
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot, buddy? | ||
| You go first. | ||
| Dan, you ever hear of a little country called France? | ||
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Oh. | |
| Yeah, you ever hear of a little game called tennis? | ||
| Well, my friend, you ever hear of a little guy named Rafael Nadal? | ||
| Yes, he and Djokovic played again, just like last year. | ||
| But you remember how I told you about last year, and how they played the most amazing third set ever, and then Rafa got injured, and it was so sad. | ||
| Sure, I think. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The opposite happened this time. | ||
| They played the most amazing tennis ever, and then they kept playing the most amazing tennis ever, and then Rafa played the most! | ||
| Most amazing tennis ever! | ||
| You're getting very animated here. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| You can't beat it. | ||
| You can't beat it. | ||
| I mean, Jordan, that sounds like some great tennis. | ||
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It was some great tennis! | |
| Well, I'm happy for you. | ||
| Yeah, it was really fun and enjoyable. | ||
| And Rafa won. | ||
| That's a great outcome and a great way to get there. | ||
| Look at me summon things up. | ||
| I'm putting on my radio professional hat. | ||
| Alright, now we're going to go to the top 40. I'm having a difficulty coming up with a bright spot necessarily, so I'm going to say, look, this is going to be controversial. | ||
| Frozen waffles. | ||
| Frozen waffles. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Frozen waffles. | ||
| Well, I had a broken toaster for quite a while. | ||
| A toaster oven. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And so I had not been able to toast things. | ||
| And I just recently got a new toaster oven. | ||
| And one of the things that I was like, I haven't had this in a while. | ||
| Frozen waffles. | ||
| How about it? | ||
| And so I got frozen waffles. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| They work as a fine, like, if you want to make a sandwich. | ||
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Totally. | |
| You can make a breakfast sandwich with frozen waffles. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Works as a great bread. | ||
| Underrated. | ||
| Also, thank you to everybody who explained to me that sauce things are called ramekins. | ||
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Great. | |
| I don't know if we have had such an aggressive response on anything. | ||
| Jumbawamba. | ||
| Yes, that's right. | ||
| Jumbawamba and ramekins are the two... | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| The hills people will die on. | ||
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Holy shit. | |
| Really took it on the chin on that one. | ||
| Yeah, that one was intense. | ||
| So thank you to everybody. | ||
| I now know to Google ramekins. | ||
| Links. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. | ||
| We're going to be talking about May 25th, 2022. | ||
| So, one of the things, we talked about having an episode on Wednesday, and we did not because I kind of wanted a little bit more clarity about stuff. | ||
| I felt like we still really had our feet on shaky ground in terms of knowing a lot of the concrete details about the police response, about the actual circumstances of the shooting. | ||
| And unfortunately, I still think we do. | ||
| I don't think we have that. | ||
| We're not on solid ground, still. | ||
| Still, the ground is shaking around us. | ||
| Right, but we can't really put things off too much longer in terms of, I mean, we have... | ||
| You know, optional episode on Wednesday. | ||
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Right. | |
| Gotta go to work. | ||
| Gotta do something, yeah. | ||
| But, so what I'm thinking, and I actually kind of was kicking around this idea anyway, I'm gonna slow things down a little bit and take a look at this time more completely, I think. | ||
| Especially this period where these reports are coming out about the, you know, contradictory statements that the police are making. | ||
| And check in on Alex's coverage over the course of it so you can see any kind of nuance or details that go on in his coverage. | ||
| Yeah, it is interesting to see how he would react to each change in the story. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And we're not in any particular rush to figure out what he said yesterday or, you know, talk about that. | ||
| So I think that this could be a good exercise of our time. | ||
| If we take it slowly enough, eventually we might get to the point where we have concrete information about the police response. | ||
| Yeah, I think it's really interesting. | ||
| I think it's a good choice just because Alex has to come out immediately knowing everything that there is to know. | ||
| You'd think. | ||
| And then... | ||
| The story's gonna change, so he has to come out and immediately know everything about that, and then the story's gonna change again, and he has to come out immediately, so there's no way he can keep his bullshit straight. | ||
| Whatever he has to do as a narrative has to be able to include that somehow, or else he has to make it include that. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And I think that may be interesting to see. | ||
| Yeah, I think that this will be... | ||
| At least educational in some form. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So today we're just going to be looking at the day after the shooting. | ||
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Right. | |
| May 25th, 2022. | ||
| And we'll get down to this in a moment. | ||
| But first, let's say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| Oh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, the middle-aged rat captain from the SS North Korean ballot boat. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Next, legendary creature Phyrexian Praetor. | ||
| Flash, at the beginning of your end step, draw seven cards. | ||
| Each opponent's maximum hand size is reduced by seven. | ||
| Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you! | ||
| Next, Captain Carlos Danger and the crew of the Dark Slide. | ||
| Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Next, I told my mother I was brilliant and she said I was going to hell. | ||
| Thank you so much, you're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| And Jordan, we've got a technocrat in the mix, so I'd like to say hello and thank you to a cat named Yonder. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| I have risen above my enemies. | ||
| I might quit tomorrow, actually. | ||
| I'm just going to take a little breaky now. | ||
| A little breaky for me. | ||
| And then we're going to come back and I'm going to start the show over. | ||
| But I'm the devil! | ||
| I've got to be taken over here! | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| I got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your New World Order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit! | ||
| Maybe today should be my last broadcast. | ||
| Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. | ||
| Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again. | ||
| That's really what I want to do. | ||
| I never want to come back here again. | ||
| I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I... | ||
| Was legitimately having breakdowns on air. | ||
| I'll be better tomorrow. | ||
| He's not. | ||
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Nope. | |
| He never will be. | ||
| Well, that's a real bummer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we start off here, and Alex has some interesting thoughts. | ||
| He has an idea that the shooter didn't act alone. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But... | ||
| Why? | ||
| Well, it's a little metaphysical. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Salvador Romesh. | ||
| Or in Latin, the son of Rome. | ||
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More like the son of Satan. | |
| It doesn't matter if they're Caucasian. | ||
| It doesn't matter if they're Hispanic. | ||
| It doesn't matter if they are black. | ||
| They all have that same look. | ||
| And they all follow the exact same M.O. They all have the same criminology behind them. | ||
| His friends said that he began to self-harm several years ago, began to get into the occult. | ||
| He began to become a Satanist. | ||
| And if you ask what organization or group was behind this or if he acted alone, he did not act alone. | ||
| The Bible talks about the mystery of iniquity, the mystery of evil, and how this evil force takes people over. | ||
| Yeah, so I guess Alex has decided that the Uvalde shooter is possessed by demons, which is being used as an argument that he didn't act alone. | ||
| So we're on good, solid ground here. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That whole son of Rome thing is fun, but Phileas is son in Latin. | ||
| And the shooter's name was Ramos, not Romas. | ||
| I was able to find some early articles that did say Romas, so that's not all that wild for Alex to have that name in his head, but it was incorrect. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| I'm not as familiar with Latin as I am with Greek, but I also don't think it's possible for a noun to be declined the way Alex is making Romas mean of Rome. | ||
| The as is not a suffix that's used in the genitive case, which is most commonly used to show possession, like of something. | ||
| Son of Rome would generally be expressed as phileus romam. | ||
| Anyway, Salvador is actually a name that derives from the Spanish and Portuguese for savior, and Ramos means branches. | ||
| The point is that Alex is getting the shooter's name wrong, so he can incorrectly translate it into something that he can pretend means son of Satan, so he can shoehorn his insane worldview that his enemies are possessed by demons into the coverage of this story on a basic level, and it's very dumb. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's very hard to deal with the root causes of things if you believe the root cause of things is the... | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| And you believe that there's a conspiracy of one, but it's actually a hundred demons within them. | ||
| Right, because magic. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's tough. | ||
| The inequity of evil. | ||
| Well, it's a mystery. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So Alex has some details wrong, and I actually kind of think that some of this he should have been able to get right. | ||
| And so he killed his grandmother, Mr. Romas, just like... | ||
| Adam Lanza killed his mother with the gun she'd gotten that he had illegally. | ||
| And he went out to kill children. | ||
| Just like the left wants to abort the babies even after they're born and have passed laws in several states to do it. | ||
| Alex's great last refuge of comparing everything to the evils of his enemies doing abortion. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| But Ramos didn't kill his grandmother. | ||
| He shot her, but she survived. | ||
| For Alex to think that she'd been killed, he would have to do no investigation into the story over the past 24 hours because most of the stories, even the early ones, involved the grandmother calling 911. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And she was evacuated to the hospital. | ||
| That detail was in early stories. | ||
| But we see again this standard deflection. | ||
| Instead of dealing with reality as it is, Alex retreats to safer territory that he knows the audience enjoys, namely making everything about abortion and attacking his enemies because, like, haha, this is bad, but what about this? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It is so fucking emblematic that it is like... | ||
| Okay, we're going to take something that hurts people who are crying out who we can see the problems with, and then we're going to compare it to something purely abstract. | ||
| Just nothing physical, just the idea of abortion is the problem. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Yep. | ||
| So, I think that, you know, we've already seen Alex be like, hey, you know what, he acted as a collaboration because it was the devil. | ||
| Devil. | ||
| I found this to be really kind of distasteful, and that is that Alex is basically doing clickbait about the shooting the day after. | ||
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Jesus. | |
| The headline today for the show is, Alex Jones will exclusively reveal the organization and group behind this psychotic devil captured by darkness, and the name is Satan. | ||
| That's the organization. | ||
| That's the group. | ||
| So yeah, that's just clickbait. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's nothing beyond that other than, like, I'm tricking you into thinking that I'm going to report on something, like, I have information that there's a group behind this or whatever, and then it's a bait and switch that he's just like, aha, it's Satan. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| There's a shadowy organization and conspiracy behind this, and, uh, surprise, it's Satan. | ||
| That's offensive. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| That's exploitation. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Yep, definitely. | ||
| Brutal. | ||
| But look, we've got a Satan problem. | ||
| We do have a Satan problem. | ||
| Mexico has never had a Second Amendment, and in the last 50 years they've eradicated civilian ownership of guns. | ||
| Yeah, the problem with Mexico is... | ||
| And Mexico also has a devil problem. | ||
| Civilians don't have guns. | ||
| A Satanism problem, just like we do. | ||
| And if you go look at the gangs who are smuggling the kids, they worship the Grim Reaper. | ||
| And they worship death and brutality. | ||
| A tiny minority... | ||
| But still dominating and destroying an entire amazing nation. | ||
| And the same poison, the same sickness that is in Mexico and is in other countries around the world is here in the United States. | ||
| So, like, what do you propose we do? | ||
| Like, what do you propose we do for this Satan problem? | ||
| Pray more. | ||
| Theocratic rule? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I don't want to do anything. | ||
| I just want people to think about it. | ||
| And to pray on it, Dan. | ||
| Okay, when that doesn't work and we still have a Satan problem, what are you gonna do? | ||
| Ooh, um, I am going to tell people to double down. | ||
| Look, I don't mean to impugn religion or anything, but people are already praying quite a bit, and we have a giant Satan problem, according to you. | ||
| Sure, well... | ||
| What functionally would you... | ||
| To propose people do. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Maybe make laws to make sure that people are in line with things that aren't satanic? | ||
| I don't know about the law so much. | ||
| But what if it's on a state level? | ||
| Okay, well, a state level, that makes sense. | ||
| Now we're good. | ||
| Now we're in comfortable territory. | ||
| I mean, it's just ridiculous. | ||
| It's a dead end in terms of being able to have any conversation. | ||
| It's jangling keys. | ||
| Don't, don't, don't... | ||
| Don't look at what happened. | ||
| Look over here. | ||
| The devil. | ||
| The devil! | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So Alex has some early misreporting that he's reporting on. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I think that there's an element of this that, I mean, I think a lot of outlets made the same mistakes. | ||
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Of course. | |
| And so it's harder to fault Alex for getting this incorrect in hindsight. | ||
| And they focus in on this event and someone who reportedly killed his grandmother. | ||
| The police were looking for him. | ||
| The Border Patrol went after him, he shot at him, went into the building, and quickly killed 19 people, 19 children, two teachers, in an unprecedented attack. | ||
| And it was a brave lone war patrol agent that before the backup got there and everybody put their body armor on and got suited up in their camo, who rushed in and got wounded but killed this son of a bitch. | ||
| And son of a bitch is true kind of term for somebody like that. | ||
| This matches some of the early reporting on the story, particularly the part about a Border Patrol agent shooting Ramos. | ||
| From the Texas Tribune article about this from the 24th, quote, A law enforcement official told the Associated Press. | ||
| So these are the pieces of information that are being relayed by law enforcement to the press. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it makes sense for Alex. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I think in hindsight there's a lot of reasons to have some questions. | ||
| But the dynamic of Alex treating this as an official statement is totally understandable. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| So this is one of the things that's good to highlight. | ||
| There is a difference between something like this, something he's wrong about, but he has every reason to be wrong about, and something that he's wrong about when he's just making shit up. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I think that gets lost sometimes because there are very few instances where he's actually reporting on something that is wrong, but it's believed by... | ||
| Reputable sources. | ||
| Ironically, even when he is sticking with the official narrative, he is still wrong. | ||
| It's wild. | ||
| That is amazing. | ||
| Even whenever he's trying to not be wrong, he gets even more wrong. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So since at this point, we've seen a lot of information about the police response called into question, but based on the available information, Alex isn't that far off the mark. | ||
| That being said, he's still totally wrong about this shooting being quick. | ||
| Even early information was clear that it was not a quick thing. | ||
| That same Texas Tribune article points out that the shooting began at 11.32, and the school district tweeted a warning about an active shooter at 12.17 p.m., over 45 minutes later. | ||
| So, I mean, just for some context. | ||
| It was not like a no time for backup. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| So, look, we have a devil problem, but there's also maybe a solution. | ||
| We need to be armed, damn it! | ||
| And we need the teachers armed, and we need the principals armed, and if we got $40 billion to send money to Ukraine for money laundering, and $5 billion a month more, we've got the money to have armed police in the schools. | ||
| And that is exactly what the Democrats are trying to stop. | ||
| They want the police out of the schools. | ||
| And then they want to advertise for psychopathic demons. | ||
| The option, like on a menu, death by cop, suicide yourself, kill your grandma, kill your mom. | ||
| No, the big bonanza is go shoot up at elementary school as they hype it. | ||
| Hype up Sandy Hook all of it. | ||
| They know what they're doing. | ||
| Oh, super cool. | ||
| He's complaining about him being sued for the Sandy Hook coverage again. | ||
| Trying to relate that. | ||
| That's a theme that he's continuing from the night before. | ||
| It's all about me. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Narcissism. | ||
| So I have to say that that comes off completely hollow and meaningless, just a diversion from the point as opposed to actually being a solution. | ||
| There's two problems with the prescription Alex is yelling about here. | ||
| The first is that he believes teachers are trying to groom all the students into being LGBTQ, and even beyond that, he thinks the public schools are tools of the globalists who use them to get parents in trouble with the Child Protective Service. | ||
| Also, they teach your kids to hate you and think you're a racist. | ||
| But now he wants them armed. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| But he's saying that we can afford to do this by appealing to the aid being sent to Ukraine. | ||
| It almost feels like these aren't real points. | ||
| Nope, nope. | ||
| I don't think he believes that these are actually solutions to the things that he is talking about. | ||
| No. | ||
| I think it's a performance of distraction. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's pretty vapid, really, for a while, I would say. | ||
| And then we also have just the standard choruses that Alex has, like the, don't blame me. | ||
| Oh, well, it's not my fault. | ||
| Right now we have this terrible event, another devil worshiper, another person to shoot him up games, another person who killed his grandmother, reportedly, and then went and did this terrible thing. | ||
| And now we are all told we are collectively to blame for what this... | ||
| Devil did. | ||
| But I want you to think for a moment. | ||
| Gun owners are not collectively to blame. | ||
| That Border Patrol agent that valiantly went in and stopped what was happening and got wounded himself. | ||
| Is it to blame? | ||
| He's the good guy. | ||
| And you're good. | ||
| You didn't do this. | ||
| But we are to blame for letting society become this demonic. | ||
| And I'm to blame too. | ||
| And let's just admit that. | ||
| And God's angry about it. | ||
| So I wonder how Alex would respond to this rebuttal that I have to his point about, you know, all the gun owners aren't to blame. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Why is he trying to make all devil worshippers collectively to blame for the actions of one shooter? | ||
| I hear tons of people out there who identify as Satanists who don't commit any violent acts, so it doesn't seem like there's something inherently violent about it. | ||
| Like, I'm all for not blaming all gun owners because that's sloppy and not productive, but... | ||
| I want to know why Alex thinks that's so wrong, yet he blames all Satanists for the actions of this one person who Alex can't even prove was into Satanism. | ||
| Alex can't prove that he was a Satanist, and yet he's blaming the shooting on all Satanists, yet I can easily prove that the shooter was a gun owner, and I'm not blaming all gun owners. | ||
| Seems like Alex is the one who's engaging in the inappropriate levels of assigning collective blame here. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Yep. | ||
| Well, if you think someone's going to do that to you... | ||
| Regardless of whether or not they do that, it's a wiser idea to come back twice as hard at somebody else with the same bullshit while claiming that you're actually the one who's doing it. | ||
| Do you want to take away someone's First Amendment right to believe in Satanism? | ||
| Obviously! | ||
| In order to preserve your Second Amendment right to own a girl? | ||
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Well, of course! | |
| Okay. | ||
| Of course! | ||
| Great, great, great, great. | ||
| Awesome. | ||
| Just because the Amendment's number two doesn't mean it's not number one. | ||
| True. | ||
| So we have on this episode something that we see a lot of times after, like, sort of big events that are kind of difficult for Alex to really talk about in any organic way. | ||
| Like, a lot of this stuff is kind of boilerplate stuff, like arm teachers. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It's not my fault. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Not gun owners' fault. | ||
| More cops. | ||
| These are the kind of things that you hear all the time. | ||
| And so one of the things that Alex will do is he will take a lot of calls. | ||
| Because it's workshopping, it's figuring out... | ||
| Callers can say things that he can't. | ||
| He won't have to take responsibility for those things. | ||
| And he can push back on it and then kind of get some points for looking like he's the reasonable one. | ||
| And he can also, if somebody says something he likes, he can repeat it as something that came from a high-level source tomorrow. | ||
| So there's a lot of benefits for taking calls. | ||
| Boy, he gets an exciting one pretty early. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I don't want to cut Matthew short. | ||
| We may have to hold him over. | ||
| It says there's a special ed teacher worked with the student, and it says he was special ed, says he had a learning disability and speech impediment people made fun of. | ||
| That's what his friends are saying, that they hadn't talked to him in over a year because he got so demonic. | ||
| But let's go to Matthew in Texas. | ||
| Matthew, if you are who you say you are, this is a big break here on the show to be able to hear from you, and I believe you, but please tell us. | ||
| The details. | ||
| I believe you based on nothing. | ||
| Yeah, I'm just gonna tell you, you were 100% correct. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't even need to finish what you're saying to me. | ||
| I don't know if I've seen any reporting that he necessarily wasn't in a special education classes. | ||
| I haven't seen any. | ||
| What Alex is referring to is that he had a stutter and a lisp. | ||
| And apparently the people had mocked that a bit. | ||
| And his kids are cruel. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But that does not necessarily mean that he was in any special education program. | ||
| He may have been. | ||
| I don't know that. | ||
| But from many of the articles that I've read, that's not necessarily something that's come up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I don't exclude it as a possibility. | ||
| No, it's definitely a possibility. | ||
| This caller may be legit. | ||
| Maybe not. | ||
| Alex doesn't know, but he is treating it like it is. | ||
| Now, the problem that I have is that this caller is very vague. | ||
| There's not really much to hang your hat on here. | ||
| Please tell us the details. | ||
| I'm a long-time listener, Alex. | ||
| This is really hard for me to digest all this going on. | ||
| I've worked with students like that across the state. | ||
| I've been employed in over 14 different districts. | ||
| It's kind of from one end to the other. | ||
| And whenever we, in my opinion, you know, and you're talking about an awesome group of people in Uvalde, Texas. | ||
| Great district, great people. | ||
| My heart breaks for them and for those kids. | ||
| You know, I've been a teacher for a long time. | ||
| And I just want to say that, you know, we work with these kids. | ||
| We know who they are, right? | ||
| And whenever we went into quarantine... | ||
| And it happened all over this country. | ||
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A lot of these kids went down a bad path. | |
| And I think that's what we're seeing, right? | ||
| I want to be specific. | ||
| Did you work with this student or you worked with similar students and saw them fall out and then get swallowed up by the internet? | ||
| Or what are you saying? | ||
| No, I interacted with him. | ||
| So yeah, he's being so vague that Alex has to be like, what are we talking about? | ||
| Were you working with this guy? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He says it was a number of years in the past. | ||
| He's not specific about that. | ||
| He's worked for 14 different districts as a teacher? | ||
| A special education teacher, perhaps. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But I think that, you know, maybe there's a possibility that that's some kind of a, like, consultancy kind of role. | ||
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Could be. | |
| Like, you go around to different schools. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| You're a teacher one year here and one year here. | ||
| No, that's not how it works. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| There could be a reason why you'd be in a bunch of different districts. | ||
| Like, there is a position I can imagine that exists there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But that, to me, I think that if you were in that kind of a role where you're in a bunch of different districts, you probably would have less time intimately knowing the students. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Probably would have... | ||
| You're kind of in and out. | ||
| It seems like you would be. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| One of the reasons I don't know is because this guy's not specific at all. | ||
| He doesn't really say anything. | ||
| Yeah, and that this is the day after. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And he's calling into InfoWars. | ||
| He is. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, there's problems. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex, he's like, okay, we're coming up on the end of the first hour here. | ||
| And when the second hour begins, there's that whole little time where no one's listening because it's not on the radio. | ||
| I'm going to put you on hold for that. | ||
| We're going to come back when the audience is actually here. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Please hold. | ||
| We've got to go to break. | ||
| Will you hold for like five minutes so we can come to you when the full audience is here in the second hour? | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| All right, Greg. | ||
| Some say you don't care the first five minutes. | ||
| So I'm going to have you hold. | ||
| We'll come right back to you at six after. | ||
| Please don't hang up, Matthew. | ||
| You can tell this guy's for real. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| By the way, put him on hold because if we don't do this, we won't be here. | ||
| How and why? | ||
| We are barely in the black, even with that big donation. | ||
| Turned out we had even more bills I didn't know about. | ||
| Not mad at accounting, but... | ||
| Not mad at accounting. | ||
| Not mad at accounting! | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| That's a new one. | ||
| New bills. | ||
| That's a new one. | ||
| We got new bills! | ||
| Listen, I'm not mad at accounting for... | ||
| I guess they came up with new bills? | ||
| They hid those bills. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And somehow these bills are larger than $8 million. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
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Yep, yep. | |
| All right. | ||
| They're very big bills. | ||
| Cool, man. | ||
| Yeah, so... | ||
| Those other companies that he owns have really started adding... | ||
| It's inflation. | ||
| It's inflation. | ||
| They're charging him. | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| Can't fault him. | ||
| I mean, it's been years. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Frankly. | ||
| So, yeah, I think that there's a fun thing here where it's like, look, that next five minutes, the audience dips quite a bit because we're not on the radio for that. | ||
| Other stations are playing their own top-of-the-hour identification stuff. | ||
| Look, if I had Twitter, I would tweet out that the special ed teacher's on. | ||
| Everybody's got to turn it on right now. | ||
| This is exciting. | ||
| This is a get for me. | ||
| I know, even though I have no way of proving what you are saying is true. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, he does. | ||
| Using his own instincts. | ||
| Ah, shit. | ||
| At the end of the first hour, if you just joined us, we went to a caller. | ||
| We opened the phones up for people specifically in Texas or Uvalde or from those in the school. | ||
| And the caller sounds very credible and very informed. | ||
| And said, look, I'm a special ed teacher. | ||
| I worked with him. | ||
| And what he's talking about fits the MO. | ||
| We're going right back to him now. | ||
| So I have no idea if this caller is for real or not, and neither does Alex. | ||
| The idea that a special education teacher would call into the show the next day makes Alex feel special, though, so no matter what, regardless of how flimsy the evidence may be, Alex is always going to believe a caller like this. | ||
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Yep. | |
| That's not to say that it's definitely a prank or a liar. | ||
| I have no idea, but I also don't have any solid confirmation that Ramos was in the special needs program. | ||
| This may be a real caller who worked with him. | ||
| Or it may be a Texas special education teacher who's misremembering working with him. | ||
| Or it could all be bogus. | ||
| But the important thing is that Alex has no idea what the deal is, and it's very unwise for him to act like this. | ||
| The lack of any vetting and acceptance of whatever claims are convenient for you is a bad way to go about doing a news show. | ||
| I mean, this goes all the way fucking back to the Arkansas Department of Transportation is on the roads, you know? | ||
| Like, just... | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| This seems like it works for me. | ||
| Some call makes enough sense to me. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| That's part of it. | ||
| Putin has decided to nuke the US and he looks like a demon. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| You just take whatever comes in and then fuck it. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
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Zach. | |
| Fucking Zach. | ||
| Oh yeah, Zach. | ||
| Zach from the North Com. | ||
| Where's Zach these days? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Miss you, Zach. | ||
| He was Q for a while. | ||
| He was. | ||
| So yeah, we talked about this on the last episode. | ||
| One of the things that Alex does literally every time in shootings is that he claims that the police stood down. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He does this even in other instances like the Unite the Right rally. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Various other things. | ||
| There's always a police stand down that explains away issues that he doesn't want to deal with. | ||
| Please don't tell me that ironically this time he is going to claim that there was no police stand down. | ||
| And obviously, the caller can fill us in on that, and I'll get more into the M.O. and, you know, the criminology of this, but it just fits the same pattern, just like Cruz at Parkland, and the police stood down there, they didn't stand down here. | ||
| Oh my God! | ||
| Come on! | ||
| Yeah, isn't that wild? | ||
| They stood the most down here! | ||
| But isn't that wild? | ||
| That is so fucking crazy! | ||
| He always makes that claim, and this one instance... | ||
| I think this is a simulation. | ||
| We're in a simulation. | ||
| This is too... | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| It's bizarre. | ||
| I refuse to believe that this is like that moment where Rogan is like, oh, this is too good. | ||
| It has to be true. | ||
| I reject this. | ||
| This is too good. | ||
| It has to be a lie. | ||
| I was pretty surprised when I was listening and I heard that. | ||
| I was like, wow, that's unfortunate for Alex. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| But I think part of that is probably because the story of the guy not waiting for backup Yeah. | ||
| Alex enjoys that quite a bit. | ||
| Yeah, the hero cop with a gun. | ||
| That's the story that everybody wants to tell. | ||
| At the same time, I don't feel like he's obsessing about that story that much, but I do think that holding onto it is more important than necessarily pushing a stand down in this instance. | ||
| Yeah, and it would be hard to thread the needle of like, well, some people were told to stand down, but this guy was the hero who did... | ||
| Yeah, no, that's not gonna happen. | ||
| So, this caller, who's the... | ||
| Alleged teacher. | ||
| He has some points to make, and I think that Alex would really have a tough time with this if this wasn't a caller that he thinks is a big get. | ||
| Just start wherever you'd like and tell us what you witnessed and what you saw. | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| To kind of preset this, I studied special education in graduate school in Texas. | ||
| I'll probably get demonized from that because now I'm an open and forwards listener. | ||
| I've been that way a long time. | ||
| I haven't always agreed with everything you say, Alex, but I do respect you. | ||
| And so, long story short, those kids had hope, right? | ||
| Whenever the economy was good. | ||
| And you have to understand people in New Valley don't have very much. | ||
| And what they do have, they're proud, they're very warm people, they're just good people. | ||
| And so basically what happens is when that pandemic starts, A lot of these kids that needed our direction and our structure lost it because they weren't there with us. | ||
| And there's a lot of good teachers out there that care. | ||
| This is really complicated, and Alex should really hate what this caller is saying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| On the one hand, it's good because he's making the shooting about the pandemic, which Alex can work with. | ||
| That's an acceptable distraction from the idea of talking about gun regulation or building up red flag laws for domestically violent people. | ||
| On the other hand, this caller's entire premise is so counter to Infowars ideology that Alex should hang up on him, even if this guy was a teacher in Uvalde. | ||
| This guy is saying that one of the driving forces behind the shooting was that the pandemic happened and these students who needed the structure of public schools didn't have school anymore and they fell apart. | ||
| Alex hates public schools. | ||
| He thinks they're globalist indoctrination center. | ||
| and would be more consistent with his positions if he argued that being in a special education program was proof that Ramos was being Yep. | ||
| Alex should respond to this by accusing the guy of advocating for locking everyone up in school prisons. | ||
| He constantly yells about how the state doesn't need to raise your children. | ||
| You know, as an attack on public schools, but I guess in this case, it's okay as a thing for the caller to promote? | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| I mean, he should borderline be telling the caller that the caller had something to do with it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He should be grilling him for information. | ||
| Yeah, he's like, wait, wait, wait, you're in the special education program and you knew this kid? | ||
| How? | ||
| What? | ||
| What's going on in the special education program? | ||
| Let me ask you this. | ||
| Did you know Jolly and West? | ||
| Have you been trained in mind control? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Do you know Steve Pajetic? | ||
| I have. | ||
| So, this is where the call gets to Alex asking for, like, specifics. | ||
| And this caller does not have any. | ||
| They get in a downward spiral into darkness. | ||
| Let me ask this question. | ||
| You're obviously being respectful and, you know, not specifically talking about him, but this is a big public interest. | ||
| You're anonymous here. | ||
| What did you observe? | ||
| I've seen articles by his friends saying in the last year or so he disappeared during the lockdown, got really dark, started self-harming himself, got obsessed with shoot-em-up games, started getting into dark, occultic stuff. | ||
| What child or young man did you see versus the one that reportedly did this atrocity? | ||
| So I saw him more asocial, Alex, to where a young person that has asocial tendencies, they're going to be more... | ||
| Kind of by themselves. | ||
| They might be social, but they're going to be social with like a select group of students. | ||
| And so he was more just, to me, just removed from the situation. | ||
| But he was still approachable. | ||
| And so, you know, especially at the end of the day, I would go out and I had students all over the place. | ||
| And I'm there like how I am. | ||
| There's a lot of proactive educators. | ||
| And I'll walk around and I just kind of get the temperature of what's going on around the kids because I want to know what's going on. | ||
| So yeah, there's nothing really insightful. | ||
| There's no real information that's being transferred. | ||
| And part of that makes me think that maybe he was actually involved in the Texas school districts in some way, because if it was someone goofing or being a hoax, they probably would have something a little bit more interesting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, it does seem like he was like, this kid was in one of my, you know, I knew him. | ||
| He's just like everybody else, essentially. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I would be maybe fine believing he had some sort of a passing... | ||
| He maybe ran into him once. | ||
| Yeah, and that's kind of my vibe, is that maybe he's exaggerating. | ||
| Maybe he's not necessarily making everything up, but I think he might be inserting himself into the story where... | ||
| Sure, I think sometimes that's the way people process things. | ||
| Yeah, true. | ||
| You can't... | ||
| Count the number of times when a celebrity dies, people will post, like, I met him once. | ||
| The whole thing. | ||
| Make things about yourself a little bit. | ||
| It's not always narcissism. | ||
| Sometimes it's a little bit of, like, that's how you can cope with it. | ||
| We all process grief in our own way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I feel like possibly that's something here. | ||
| Or, you know, who knows? | ||
| Maybe it is entirely fake. | ||
| I mean, he's calling Infowars. | ||
| And that's not good. | ||
| No. | ||
| But the point, too, is just, like, the... | ||
| Alex spends a half hour on this call, and he has no idea who this person is. | ||
| He has no idea if they're actually who they claim to be. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it's treated as automatically true because it's better if it's true. | ||
| And that's not good, because you open yourself up to all sorts of possible people who are doing hoaxes. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| Steve Pachenik. | ||
| You open yourself up to Steve Pachenik, and once you do that, it's too late for you. | ||
| You open yourself up to someone fucking with you for 20 years. | ||
| 20 years. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Years of your life. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex has heard that Ramos would shoot BB guns and throw stuff at cars and what have you. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Alex wasn't that bad. | ||
| Or was he? | ||
| They're now saying he drove around with friends and egged cars and shot people with BB guns. | ||
| And then you get in a worse and worse group, and it goes from egging and BB guns to real guns. | ||
| I never shot people with BB guns, but I did on Halloween run around and, you know, throw eggs at people, and then it escalated to, you know, throwing a pumpkin off of a bridge that hit a pickup truck, could have killed people, and that's about the worst stuff I've done. | ||
| But some of those friends I had then... | ||
| Got in trouble later, years later, after I'd already moved out of where I lived, for things like arson and went to jail. | ||
| So that's that downward spiral you're talking about. | ||
| Alex has murdered people, if you believe him. | ||
| Uh, yeah. | ||
| The worst thing he's done is thrown a pumpkin off a bridge? | ||
| He said he literally stomped someone's guts out. | ||
| And watched them die slowly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, there's blood and guts everywhere. | ||
| Multiple people. | ||
| Multiple people. | ||
| Multiple people he's murdered, according to him. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Put people in a coma. | ||
| Definitely. | ||
| That one we actually know. | ||
| Yeah, we do know that one. | ||
| That one's worse. | ||
| Yeah, so yeah, Pumpkin's the worst Alex has done. | ||
| Nope, gonna go with coma on this one. | ||
| Gonna go with murder that didn't happen. | ||
| Didn't happen. | ||
| I'm gonna go with Alex claiming he's murdered people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, this is just Alex expressing that there should be more cops in schools. | ||
| from what I can see in the reports, the attack unit from the Border Patrol just happened to be almost like right in that area, and they responded before they even had backup, which is a testament to how great our law enforcement is. | ||
| And I think the only short way and the quick way to solve this is Matthew, I agree with you. | ||
| Stay there. | ||
| Yeah, so... | ||
| That's not a good prescription for anything. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Cops do not make schools safer. | ||
| We'll get into some of that a little bit later. | ||
| Fucking awful. | ||
| Well, some may mean well in some cases, but the empirical evidence shows that there are side effects of having police in schools that aren't necessarily positive. | ||
| So this, Alex should be furious about this. | ||
| We've got to have mechanisms in place. | ||
| I don't think, I don't agree with the fact that he could legally purchase any kind of weapon at 18 without going through some sort of mental evaluation. | ||
| Well, expanding on that, he's being described as autistic. | ||
| I know you can't diagnose somebody, you're not a doctor, but was he on the spectrum in your opinion? | ||
| I can't. | ||
| Without violating his FERPA information, unfortunately, I don't want to comment on that, Alex. | ||
| Good call there. | ||
| But also, Alex is allowing this guy to say that 18-year-olds shouldn't be able to buy guns without a psych evaluation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That seems like Alex should be furious about that. | ||
| I don't think he would like that if Chuckie Schumer tried to pass that as a law or suggested that was a good idea. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think he would like it if anybody other than this particular person at this particular time had said that. | ||
| Yep, probably. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| So Alex has some suggestions of... | ||
| Mind control as he does typically in the cases of mass shooting. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Which is weird since he's just gotten off the phone with a special needs teacher who allegedly worked with him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean, look, somebody probably groomed this guy. | ||
| Somebody probably programmed him. | ||
| But we can't prove that. | ||
| We know Theodore Gaczynski was groomed by the CIA and control of the CIA. | ||
| That's mainstream news, just back in the paper. | ||
| So, yeah, it goes on. | ||
| It could be going on. | ||
| But, again, they don't need to do individual mind control now. | ||
| The culture is mind control. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Ah, yes. | ||
| So living in culture is what you're calling globalist mind control. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The entire culture is mind-controlled. | ||
| Ah, so it's meaningless. | ||
| So then, in order to stop school shootings... | ||
| You have to stop culture. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so, instead of that, we're just going to do school shootings forever. | ||
| Well, I mean, you just have to, like, if you want to stop this Satan problem, which is caused by the mind control of the globalists, you have to destroy all vestiges of culture that isn't... | ||
| Pure flicks. | ||
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God. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| It isn't all just... | ||
| Everything is just Kirk Cameron movies. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| That's what we get. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| Yep. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And then Alex getting really high with Mike Tyson. | ||
| Yeah, and Chuck Norris' kid is around. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So everyone's got to be homeschooled, apparently. | ||
| That's probably a solution. | ||
| No, but that's the lockdown. | ||
| The lockdown was homeschooling, and then they said that that was the thing. | ||
| What else is on your mind, Danielle? | ||
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I'm just a happy homeschool mom today. | |
| Boy, I gotta tell you, that's what my wife said. | ||
| I'm sorry, that's what you have to say? | ||
| The day after? | ||
| Let's just keep her home. | ||
| Fuck me! | ||
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It's time to stop letting other people teach our children. | |
| Absolutely. | ||
| The real thing is how to roof a roof, how to plant a garden, how to cook food, how to tie your shoelaces, how to be a good person. | ||
| Everything else doesn't matter. | ||
| The whole educational system is programmed for a system that's over, that's gone. | ||
| And so that's why they're engineering a post-industrial world. | ||
| We love you, Danielle. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Right, and I think that to some degree, when you hear these conversations, what you should really take away from them is the solutions that they're proposing aren't solutions because they don't want public schools to continue to exist. | ||
| If there are continued mass shootings constantly, that works in the favor of the right-wing ideology, because eventually maybe it'll get to a point where it's just unsustainable to have public schools. | ||
| I mean, more cops in schools makes public schools less safe, so they want more and more cops in schools over and over and over again. | ||
| The issue is with the school. | ||
| It's not with the shooting. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Quite frankly, based on the ideology that they carry. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And that's why a lot of these attacks have been, not the shooting attacks, but the attacks from the right wing have had to do with school boards. | ||
| Well, I mean, it's classic clue rules. | ||
| You know, we have the person, we have the weapon, and we have where it happened. | ||
| So we can't do anything about the person. | ||
| They'd rather die than do anything about the weapon. | ||
| So we gotta get rid of the place. | ||
| Tim Curry. | ||
| Great movie. | ||
| So Alex has had a lot of prophecies. | ||
| And divine experiences. | ||
| And they've all come true, which kind of backs up everything that he said. | ||
| True. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now we learn about another one. | ||
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Uh-oh. | |
| This is one he's never talked about before. | ||
| I bet it's really old. | ||
| Oh, it's so old. | ||
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Oh, it's so old. | |
| And definitely didn't happen. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| The UN said two years ago the lockdowns were going to put 278 million people, they estimated, on the verge of starvation. | ||
| And an extra 20 million a year would die, and they nailed it, and that's accurate. | ||
| 40 million people died. | ||
| I wake up at night and think about that. | ||
| Because let me tell you something, I'm God-fearing, and I've got a spirit, and it's connected to things. | ||
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And... | |
| You know, I'm not going to tell the story. | ||
| It's just too intense, and I said I'd go to your calls, but I had a vision. | ||
| When I was three years old, it's one of my earliest, most intense memories. | ||
| And it was starving African children that were just crying out for food. | ||
| And my parents heard me crying in my room in the middle of the night, and they came in. | ||
| And my parents remember this, and it was very intense, and it was a recurring dream after that. | ||
| And it was real, what I was seeing. | ||
| I didn't understand it all, obviously, when I was three years old, but it was a mission to not let what was coming even bigger happen. | ||
| And I remember spiritually feeling the Holy Spirit incredibly intense and giving me an imprint of information that you're going to help mitigate this, you're going to help stop this, this is your mission. | ||
| And I remember being given this total sorrow and the desperation of those children. | ||
| And it was the most intense thing that's ever happened to me in my life. | ||
| Bar none, nothing's ever been one-tenth as intense. | ||
| And it's a lot more complex than that, and I try to never talk about it to even friends or family. | ||
| I mean, I guess a few times my parents would talk about it when I would cry. | ||
| I was like three years old. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| If Alex had this vision and it was the most intense thing he ever felt and it was God giving him a mission, you would think that maybe he would have made food insecurity in the developing world a really important part of his career. | ||
| Like, you know, it would be the focus of one of his 12 documentaries, maybe. | ||
| I mean, generally speaking, if I was three years old and given a vision and the purpose from God to fight one of the horsemen single-handedly... | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I would have not started InfoWars. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It seems counterintuitive. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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It's also so weird how this only comes up when there's some other political point Alex is trying to make by using. | |
| starving people as a prop. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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And he doesn't really seem to give a shit about the issue outside of that context. | |
| All you need to know is that before Trump, the only politician Alex ever went to bat for was Ron Paul, who made the elimination of all foreign aid one of the pillars of his runs for the presidency, which Alex supported wholeheartedly. | ||
| The elimination of foreign aid would kill a number of people that would be so hard to estimate, given how much of our aid goes to things like the eradication of smallpox, programs that fight infant and maternal fatalities, and the humanitarian concerns of all children. | ||
| Astronomical. | ||
| He's a colossal... | ||
| piece of shit, and it's degrading how he tries to wrap up his detestable politics in the veneer of some kind of holy quest of compassion that God gave him in his life. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| of vision. | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| He might have had a dream based on some sort of a like feed the children intro commercial that he saw. | ||
| That would have been right around the time for the A Cup of Coffee commercial that would play. | ||
| And it's just... | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| How is it that you can... | ||
| It's a human fucked up thing that you can point to a problem that's unsolvable as a way to avoid solving a problem that is solvable. | ||
| Because you don't want to solve the problem that's solvable. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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Yep. | |
| How do we do that? | ||
| What kind of psychopath nonsense species are we? | ||
| Insane. | ||
| I mean, we can't just go, oh, there's this third world population, they're useless, and let them die. | ||
| If we do that, we're supposed to save those people, but really save them, not weaponize them and bring them here and have them burn everything down. | ||
| If we don't lift those people up, not just in Africa, but everywhere, but the vision was Africa. | ||
| If we don't do that, God's going to damn us to hell. | ||
| I can tell you now that that is a fact. | ||
| And if we don't try to save people like Salvador Ramos, we don't have any hope. | ||
| And the left poses as the people trying to save people when they're the actual ones manufacturing and producing this. | ||
| I'm going to shut up now. | ||
| It's a true story. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So you might notice that Alex will sometimes mention how he needs to lift up these people in the developing world, but he won't ever really expand on what that means, outside of just insisting that the political positions he already holds will have the side effect of lifting them up. | ||
| It's like trickle-down conservatism. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean, Obama was the one who said they can't have fridges, so I assume he just wants everybody to have a refrigerator. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And cars. | ||
| And burn a lot more fossil fuels. | ||
| Oh, 100%. | ||
| Because that'll green everything. | ||
| It's so much more carbon dioxide, it'll make the plants bigger. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just empty garbage that he throws around. | ||
| These ideas of, like, we need to lift people up, but not the fake lifting them up. | ||
| And then he gets into some sort of Great Replacement-y adjacent ideas of bringing immigrants here. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| Britain in the fucking early 1900s is like, listen, we need to bring these inferior mongrels up, and you're like, wait, wait, wait, no, no, no, not how that, what are you doing, you racist piece of shit? | ||
| Also, it's so cool how a day after the shooting, Alex is imploring the audience to save the Salvador Ramoses in society. | ||
| You really don't see that kind of grace and understanding being applied across the board for murderers that Alex talks about. | ||
| No. | ||
| I was thinking about it, and I honestly have almost no idea why you would say something like that. | ||
| It's completely bizarre, and it probably dips into fairly disrespectful territory, considering that this is the next day. | ||
| I mean, it really feels like what he's trying to do here is a response to what he's done in the past. | ||
| Of like, here are the things that I've always done, and I'm gonna try different ones today. | ||
| And somehow it's worse. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And you may notice that by now, we're a ways into this, the night before he was misidentifying the trans women as the shooter. | ||
| Didn't bring it up. | ||
| Didn't apologize? | ||
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No. | |
| He didn't say, I'm sorry for misidentifying? | ||
| That is just, didn't happen? | ||
| Just pretended it never happened. | ||
| Never happened. | ||
| Well, that's why you do it at a special report. | ||
| Then, you know, it's not on the air. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we get another caller, and this guy's weird. | ||
| Unity in Texas, welcome. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
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Hey Alex, how are you doing? | |
| I'm alright. | ||
| The evil's making its move, brother. | ||
| It is. | ||
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I just want to say God bless everyone in Uvality and God bless all of us going through these times. | |
| Another thing is should these teachers, should they be drug tested? | ||
| All teachers. | ||
| The school board, should they be drug tested? | ||
| Number one. | ||
| Number two, are there liabilities in the doctor's labs? | ||
| Are they in the school board's labs? | ||
| Are they in the video game manufacturer's labs? | ||
| Should we have a mental health questionnaire for video games? | ||
| Should we lock these games up like we do the guns and have them transferred like guns, have an FFL, have a BGL, video game licensure? | ||
| We're going to have to do something to protect these children in these schools. | ||
| These strip malls have armed guards walking around looking at their phones. | ||
| Nothing's going on. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| We've got armed guards guarding garbage restaurants and garbage jewelry shops. | ||
| The jewelry's not worth anything. | ||
| Our children are everything. | ||
| I have no idea why this caller is suggesting all this shit. | ||
| It almost seems like just a list of non-sequiturs. | ||
| That said, it's not like no schools have armed guards. | ||
| For the year 2015 to 2016, the National Center for Education Statistics reported 42.9% of all public schools had, quote, sworn law enforcement officers routinely carrying a firearm. | ||
| In 2021, researchers at SUNY Albany looked at the school data from 2014 to 2018 in order to assess what effect having armed officers in schools had. | ||
| They found that having an armed school resource officer, quote, But they do point out that it's a small increase. | ||
| On the flip side, quote, It's probably hard to attribute the slight increase in the likelihood of a shooting to the presence of the officer, but it seems like a pretty decent chance that the decrease in fights is probably due to them being there. | ||
| Not necessarily the fact that they have a gun, but security officers would tend to have that effect. | ||
| But there's a big downside that the study also found. | ||
| From the study, quote, This benefit comes at a high cost of increased disciplinary responses by both the school and law enforcement. | ||
| We find that SROs increase the incidence of in-school suspension, out-of-school suspension, expulsion, police referral, and arrest, particularly in middle and high schools. | ||
| For many of these disciplinary consequences, the increased use of punishment is over two times larger for black students than white students and significantly larger for students with disabilities than students without disabilities. | ||
| SROs also increase the rate of chronic absenteeism. | ||
| The idea of just dropping an armed guard into a school and considering the job done here isn't a solution. | ||
| There are very troubling side effects that appear to be related to that decision that need to be weighed against the illusion of safety that it provides. | ||
| I think it's just much more complicated than the idea of, like, let's put an army in there or whatever. | ||
| No, I mean, the problem is basically this. | ||
| We know how to solve a problem, but they don't want to do that, so instead they have to come up with something, and what they wind up coming up with makes it worse. | ||
| The end. | ||
| It happens every time, because they don't want to solve the problem. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, this same caller has some other weird ideas. | ||
| Should we not have mag strips in the... | ||
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In the school rooms, bulletproof glass on the doors. | |
| We have them in banks. | ||
| Something's got to be done. | ||
| You know, that's a great point, because I don't like the police state, but it's not a police state when psychos are spiritually targeting our young to harden those facilities. | ||
| What? | ||
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I go back to the manufacture of the drugs, okay? | |
| These kids shouldn't be on all this dope. | ||
| They should. | ||
| It shouldn't be. | ||
| Too much dope. | ||
| What fucking year is it? | ||
| So it's interesting that Alex is like, alright, it's not a police state because there's all these psychos and what have you. | ||
| And I mean, if I were a conspiracy theorist who was just sort of competing with Alex, I would suggest maybe that, ah, but look, the globalists are really just creating the idea that there's a bunch of psychos around in order for them to get a police state in that you would accept. | ||
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Yep. | |
| It's all nonsense. | ||
| It's arbitrary. | ||
| The whole thing about a police state is you don't get one until somebody convinces you that you need one by using... | ||
| I mean, Alex thinks that it's the fucking Hegelian dialectic bullshit. | ||
| That's what Alex thinks should be happening right now, is that they're making this to bring in a police state. | ||
| And he's like, listen, I fucking love police states. | ||
| Well, it's not a police state this time. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Somehow, if you don't want to stop a police state even in the face of violence... | ||
| Then you don't have... | ||
| Then you want a police thing! | ||
| We see this over and over and over and over again. | ||
| We see the way that Alex, like, all of his posse comitatus ideas and martial law fears go away when it's Trump doing it. | ||
| You know, it's the same thing. | ||
| It's circumstantial. | ||
| It's not ideological. | ||
| There's no principle behind it. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's just the appearance and the presentation of principles. | ||
| It's like Ted Nugent saying he's well-researched. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, because it's... | ||
| It's about themselves. | ||
| It's about building themselves up as being both heroes, intelligent, being all of these amazing things. | ||
| And by not solving the problem, you get to continue doing that. | ||
| But then using that appearance as sort of a tool and a weapon. | ||
| Anyway, the same caller has even more dumb ideas, if you believe that. | ||
| I have so many dumb ideas. | ||
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Yeah, HIPAA also is a joke. | |
| It's nothing more than to keep everybody segmented and compartmentalized. | ||
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I know there's some advantages of it, but think about it. | |
| When you ask anyone what's your health problems, they gladly tell you everything under the sun that's wrong with them. | ||
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It's not a secret. | |
| That's a tool. | ||
| It's a weaponized tool. | ||
| Well said, sir. | ||
| Thank you so much for the call, Unity. | ||
| Well said. | ||
| Powerful caller. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Powerful caller. | ||
| Well said. | ||
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He just gave a list of things that don't even make sense. | |
| We need to drug test teachers. | ||
| What? | ||
| We should treat schools like bank vaults. | ||
| And we need to get rid of HIPAA laws. | ||
| I mean, what are you talking about? | ||
| That's one of those things where it's just like, this guy just knows words. | ||
| Like, he just heard buzzwords. | ||
| And he knows problems. | ||
| And so he just tries to combine them in like a, you know, draw the line for a back of a cereal box game. | ||
| In fairness. | ||
| Powerful. | ||
| It was a powerful call. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we get another caller. | ||
| HIPAA laws. | ||
| HIPAA laws. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| If you ask somebody, they'll just tell you what's wrong with them. | ||
| HIPAA laws are the problem. | ||
| If people will voluntarily tell you the issues they have medically, then it should be no problem that it can all be disclosed without your permission. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| You understand, though, that if I was like, hey, I want a job, don't tell people that I have bipolar disorder. | ||
| And then they're like, hey, guess what? | ||
| This guy has bipolar disorder. | ||
| Don't hire him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, we've got to get rid of those laws. | ||
| Yeah, we've got to get rid of those laws. | ||
| Yeah, those laws that protect people. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So we get another caller, and this guy has some ideas about social media and how it was popping the fuck off the day before. | ||
| And this would be a perfect place for Alex to bring up how he had misreported some stuff yesterday and apologized, but nope. | ||
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Hey, I just wanted to make a point. | |
| Yesterday, with the aftermath, My question to you is, at what point do they have enough of being vilified for this situation, and do they take their hands and go back on these liberals that are attacking them for being a baby killer? | ||
| Well, exactly. | ||
| They have no debate. | ||
| Yeah, there's no debate. | ||
| So, like, yeah. | ||
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What? | |
| I think it's interesting that this caller is like, you know, things are popping off on social media and it's like liberals being mean to conservatives and like, you know, Paul Gosar shared that misidentification of the shooter. | ||
| You know that Candace Owens... | ||
| Quite late got in that game. | ||
| Like, you know, that's a much more meaningful thing that was happening on social media. | ||
| Much more damaging than libs being mad at conservatives or whatever. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, that narrative was so ingrained from like, what, 2014 on of just like, liberals are always blah blah and they blame everybody after a tragedy and all that stuff. | ||
| And now, and then like, it just, everybody who tried that just kind of stopped. | ||
| But the conservatives are like, well, we can just still keep saying that. | ||
| Yeah, over and over and over again. | ||
| Yeah, it doesn't matter if they do it or not. | ||
| And we can do it, but because that narrative is stronger than, and I mean, the media will even help them out. | ||
| They'll find one tweet of like a, and then they'll be like, well, all liberals are, I mean, yeah, it's fucking stupid. | ||
| Well, I mean, I think also like a lot of Alex's and people sort of in his same. | ||
| A lot of their politics revolves around aggrievement and feelings of persecution, and so projecting those onto the rest of the world feels right. | ||
| So there's something that's sort of emotionally satisfying and familiar about dealing with all of these situations that way. | ||
| I think that explains some of it. | ||
| So the Dems, though, they'd be totally fine if just some circumstances were slightly different with the shooting. | ||
| They want open-air drug markets. | ||
| They want to abort babies after they're born. | ||
| They want drag queen story time. | ||
| They tell us there's so many people, oh, but then there's a mass shooting. | ||
| All the pro-life people, all the gun owners, we're to blame. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
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It is. | |
| And this may sound kind of demented, and I couldn't help but think of it. | ||
| If that shooter would have went into a nursery and shot babies, the left might have praised him. | ||
| Actually, if he'd have gone and shot like 20-something pregnant women, they'd be like, damn, that's good, you know? | ||
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Yeah, they would have praised him as a hero, saying he was pro-choice. | |
| And I know that's sickening, but we are at that point. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| We don't value the weakest, and then when they're five years old, we value them. | ||
| That's sick. | ||
| These people are going to be killing us in a year. | ||
| This is fucked. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| I mean, look, I understand that maybe there's some tone that we don't quite capture or whatever. | ||
| This is understood by some people as an exaggeration or some sort of thing, but it doesn't feel like it. | ||
| It feels like they're legitimately saying, oh, if you just shot pregnant women or babies, it would be totally fine with the Dems who want to abort people after they're born. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It feels like that's an actual feeling. | ||
| Yeah, no, that's... | ||
| I mean, we're at... | ||
| They're going to start just murdering the left. | ||
| I mean, that's fucking... | ||
| If you can respond to a school shooting with... | ||
| The liberals are so evil, they want to kill babies. | ||
| Then we're not humans. | ||
| We're not! | ||
| You cannot believe that I'm a human being, and I would be, like, stoked if a guy murdered a bunch of babies. | ||
| This is bad. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| No, they're gonna kill us. | ||
| So, Alex brings up... | ||
| There's some bad information, again. | ||
| But again, this is the stuff that, like, he would have every reason to think this was accurate. | ||
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You know, I need to get your opinion on this, Alex. | |
| I was talking to a friend of mine this morning, and we were like, okay, you know, the kid worked at Wendy's. | ||
| I'm sure if he saved enough money, it would be a pretty penny to buy those guns and all that ammo. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm not versed on this. | ||
| You're probably well more than me, but how does that kid get all that body armor? | ||
| Because it sounds like he was in a heck of a shootout with the cops, and they couldn't take him down before he got in, before the special agent got in. | ||
| I would think that body armor would cost a ton. | ||
| And I don't know how an 18-year-old would access all of that, and maybe you can expand on that. | ||
| No, I agree. | ||
| How is he pitting down and defeating multiple armed security people and well-trained Border Patrol? | ||
| I mean, the whole thing's very suspicious. | ||
| It is, but it's suspicious because that was not the case, turns out. | ||
| So we've answered that one. | ||
| That is a good question. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Those things don't sound right. | ||
| Yep, you are correct. | ||
| The cops are fucking lying. | ||
| So, Alex wants to get into a little bit of the news, a little bit of headlines from a couple weeks ago, apparently, but the story is essentially meant to deliver the point that, you know, when gun things happen, the Dems like to make a big deal out of these things they can capitalize on, but then when their Antifa goons go out and do violence and shoot people, they never get in trouble. | ||
| Never get in trouble at all. | ||
| And so Alex has got a story along those lines. | ||
| No prison time for a man who shot Aurora protesters while aiming at Jeep driving through the crowd on I-225. | ||
| The man who shot two people while aiming at a Jeep that drove into a crowd of protesters, which is driving through them, on Interstate 225 in the summer of 2020, was sentenced Tuesday to 120 days in jail, followed by five months probation, but it's all time served. | ||
| Samuel Young, 24. Can we pull this picture up? | ||
| Just type in this article, no prison time for man who shot Aurora protesters. | ||
| It's like, just from what Alex reads there, he's contradicted the no prison time thing. | ||
| I was gonna say, he said he did 120 days time served. | ||
| Yeah, but this is also just a weird case for Alex to use. | ||
| So this was a situation where there was a protest in Aurora, Colorado, and a Jeep was not just driving slowly through a crowd the way Alex is making it sound. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The Jeep was speeding towards people. | ||
| Yeah, it was a murderous intent. | ||
| Well, but I'm not actually sure you can go that far, because I don't know if there was an actual intention to hit people. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But he was not concerned for safety, the driver. | ||
| Right. | ||
| In that situation, this guy that Alex is talking about fired some shots at the Jeep and ended up hitting two other protesters. | ||
| It was dumb. | ||
| The guy has apologized and taken full responsibility for his actions, and he never would have used the gun if it weren't a situation where he felt that there was an immediate threat, although his calculation may have been a little bit off. | ||
| Also, the victims asked the court for restorative justice, which the judge took into consideration. | ||
| The person driving the Jeep also didn't get charged with anything, so all in all, considering that the victims weren't severely injured, And the fact that they were not in favor of him getting any jail time? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Seems like this should be more of a teachable situation as opposed to one to use for outrage bait. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The guy has different politics than Alex, though, so it's just proof that the left and the globalists get away with everything while trying to make a big deal out of mass shootings at elementary schools. | ||
| Yeah, and I mean, the hypocrisy of that, of somehow the left is getting away with everything, if this was, you know... | ||
| A right-wing protester shooting at a left-wing driver in a car, Alex would be like, I wish he would kill more left-wing people driving in cars. | ||
| Well, no, he has spoken about situations like that, and he's like, well, the guy in the car was under threat. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| So it's like, I mean, whatever you want to be true about liberals is what you're going to say. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So fine. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I just don't like it. | ||
| So Alex takes some more calls, and this guy intrigued me. | ||
| I wanted to know more. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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Another thing, Alex, we got to get the hell out of this virtual world. | |
| This virtual world is blending into our third world, our 3D reality. | ||
| We've lost touch. | ||
| We've lost connection. | ||
| There's no more neighbors reaching out to each other. | ||
| Hell, I saw a couple neighbors having a crawfish bowl, and they could only get three or four neighbors to come over and eat crawfish with them because they was all scared by the damn media. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| They don't want us talking to each other. | ||
| They want us directly plugged into their matrix. | ||
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Yeah, it's the matrix. | |
| It's the web. | ||
| We're losing touch with 3D world. | ||
| The physical, the touch, the love. | ||
| We're losing all that. | ||
| The media scared people away from the crawfish boil. | ||
| You know, you don't get calls like that on other shows. | ||
| No, and I find this very interesting. | ||
| Like I said, I want to know more because I think I have a theory. | ||
| The fact is that this guy was not invited to the crawfish boil. | ||
| Because he said that he saw some people have it. | ||
| He did. | ||
| He did. | ||
| I was at a neighbor's crawfish boil. | ||
| He did suggest that we don't have neighbors anymore, and then observed that his neighbors were having fun without him. | ||
| Well, some. | ||
| Some of the neighbors, but it was not well attended. | ||
| And also, wait, he didn't, but he wasn't there, and he didn't get an invite, so how does he not know that only three neighbors were invited? | ||
| Well, I mean, who knows how many were invited and didn't show up. | ||
| He can't know the inner workings of that. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Also, I mean, who knows? | ||
| Maybe he did get an invitation, and he was afraid to go because of the media. | ||
| Because of the media. | ||
| And that's what he's reporting on. | ||
| Well, I mean, the media you're talking about is the one you're talking to right now. | ||
| That's a fair point as well. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I wonder if it was a good crawfish boil. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I just... | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| It's a crawfish kind of way to solve a lot of problems. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So we get another caller who has a dumb idea. | ||
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You know, something that somebody's not bringing up is the fact that the NRA is having their annual convention in Houston this weekend with a lot of Republican, Texas Republicans. | |
| And there ain't enough crawfish! | ||
| It's very suspicious timing. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| So if you listen to this show, you'll notice a trend and that is that a lot of the callers are trying to float possible pieces of evidence that they can use to argue that there was foreknowledge of the attack and then they're trying to workshop a motive. | ||
| It almost feels like they're reaching out to Alex to get his blessing on this reason that they're suspicious and he pretty much unfailingly will give them the reassurance they're looking for. | ||
| It's a super unhealthy dynamic. | ||
| Like, this guy is calling in and saying, isn't it weird that the NRA conference is coming up in Houston? | ||
| And Alex is like, that is very suspicious timing. | ||
| Encouraging this line of thought that this guy is clearly on. | ||
| If the NRA meeting has anything to do with the shooting that happened prior to the NRA meeting, then it had to have been scheduled to be before the NRA meeting, which means there was a plan that has something to do with being opposed to the NRA. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Back to the globalists, back to the libs. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| Alex should not be just so blanket encouraging of these thought patterns because they're bad. | ||
| Especially when they're contradictory towards each... | ||
| Call from call to call. | ||
| Like, oh yeah, no, that makes perfect sense. | ||
| I think we should get rid of violent video games. | ||
| And also, yeah, absolutely. | ||
| The violent video games aren't violent enough. | ||
| HIPAA laws have got to go. | ||
| HIPAA laws! | ||
| What the fuck are any of you talking about? | ||
| Yeah, it's weird. | ||
| So anyway, this same caller has another dumb idea. | ||
| I mean, this is the day fucking after, too. | ||
| That's so hard to wrap my head around, especially that lady just being like, I'm a happy homeschooling parent right now. | ||
| You fucking psycho. | ||
| Yeah, it's a bit of a mess. | ||
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And that gear that guy had, from what I understand, being interested in guns myself, that he had something like $3,500 worth of gear there, maybe more, depending on the quality of the guns. | |
| How did he get all that money working at Wendy's? | ||
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Yeah, and did he disappear at any time? | |
| Was he off somewhere where a communist cell was training him to get him ready for this? | ||
| I mean, John, I've been on there 28 years, and you haven't gotten through in years. | ||
| You've been calling for 20 years, haven't you? | ||
| 20 years. | ||
| 20 plus years. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| That's the saddest thing I've ever heard. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That is... | ||
| That made me take a little bit of a, like, lean back in my chair. | ||
| Yikes. | ||
| Four word stories. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Infowars listener, 20 years. | ||
| Long time caller, 20 years. | ||
| Like, yeah. | ||
| I mean, like, yeah, you have somebody who's listened to Alex for their entire last two decades. | ||
| They've called in to share in the experience with him. | ||
| And the day after a mass shooting, they're calling in to be like, hey, you know what? | ||
| Did he disappear to a communist training center? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that does not get more just... | ||
| Put it in an encyclopedia next to what happens with disinformation. | ||
| 20 years of listening, my first thought is this guy was taken to a communist cell and trained on how to murder children. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| And it's, I think, indicative of people who have ideas about conspiracies. | ||
| Can call into Alex's show. | ||
| He'll encourage them. | ||
| And it'll make it feel like, hey, we're in this together. | ||
| We're working on this thing. | ||
| It kind of sucks them in a little bit more and keeps them getting the validation that they're looking for. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you want to say that we're more complex animals, but boy, positive validation really goes a long fucking way towards getting you to do weird shit. | ||
| Yeah, 20 years in the trenches. | ||
| 20 years. | ||
| So, Alex, now... | ||
| As a guest. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| And apparently the shooting didn't happen anymore because this guest is on a totally different topic. | ||
| Great. | ||
| You know, I got some stuff on the break tomorrow. | ||
| I'm going to stop here. | ||
| I'm not going to cover right now. | ||
| But there is just so much going on. | ||
| We have world government convening, announcing they're going to censor us, announcing new lockdowns, announcing they're going to forcefully inject us. | ||
| It's just fabulously evil. | ||
| And Thomas Renz is an experienced lawyer, and he has been fighting for several years against the tyranny. | ||
| He's had a lot of successful lawsuits at Renz-Law.com, R-E-N-Z-Law.com. | ||
| You can describe Thomas Renz a lot of ways, but experienced lawyer is definitely not one of them. | ||
| He just passed the bar in 2019 and has mostly been filing frivolous anti-vex and anti-mask lawsuits since. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| He's really become more of a media personality in fringe right-wing talk shows and going on the Reawaken America tour that was full of lunatics and some stand-up comedy from Jim Brewer. | ||
| A September 2021 article in the Washington Post describes his litigation history like this. | ||
| Quote, I don't know. | ||
| He, all in all, seems like a real asshole and someone who's found a pretty lucrative hustle for himself in the anti-vax world. | ||
| So I guess he's coming on to talk about the terror of monkeypox. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So that's where we're going for the rest of this. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
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Yep. | |
| These fucking guys. | ||
| How do you... | ||
| Bull! | ||
| These fucking guys. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So a clip comes up about some terrible things that Pfizer is announcing. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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Well, I mean, listen, we just had the announcement. | |
| Pfizer said, you know, hey, you can swallow these chips, and then we can track, and it'll be a perfect way to monitor people. | ||
| Can you imagine the compliance? | ||
| In fact, by the way, we're going to break. | ||
| Thomas Wrens, wrens-law.com. | ||
| We've got so much to cover. | ||
| Guys, get that head of Pfizer clip we played, like, Monday or maybe Sunday. | ||
| Get that short 45-second clip ready when we come back from break. | ||
| But we'll come out of break and play that. | ||
| Unlike mainstream media, when we say something, we're going to show it to you. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So Alex can say, like, we showed the clip, but Renz has already lied about it. | ||
| This is a clip he's claiming is recent, like they're announcing this and something about tracking people. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This is a comment that the CEO of Pfizer made in 2018 about Abilify MySight, which is a unique medication used to treat schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and depression. | ||
| Oh, I know. | ||
| It contains a sensor which quote, "sends a message to a wearable patch that transmits information to a mobile app." What's being done on the technological side there? | ||
| So this clip took off in dumb-dumb anti-vax and COVID conspiracy circles, and countless memes have been shared with no context applied, with people claiming that it's a recent clip and that it had something to do with the pandemic. | ||
| Alex and Renz are just reposting that meme while pretending that they're doing some kind of reporting, and embarrassingly, Alex decides that this is where he's going to take a shot at the mainstream media for not playing clips. | ||
| What a douche. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| 2018. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Four years ago. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And they're still claiming that it's brand new, and it's about the pandemic. | ||
| Well, not still claiming. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They've just recently found it and are lying about the context of it in order to push the conspiracy theories that they were already pushing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's pathetic. | ||
| That's weak shit. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| If you just have to put, like, a fucking, hey, hold on, did you see that video? | ||
| Here's the timestamp. | ||
| Shut up. | ||
| That's bullshit. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Get out of here. | ||
| Get out of here! | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, Alex has another clip from the World Economic Forum, because that clip was actually in a talk at the World Economic Forum. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| And this one is of Klaus Schwab making fun of Alex. | ||
| I think it's pretty funny that Alex played this on his show, because it does show that Schwab has a little bit of a sense of humor on him. | ||
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I think we were both targets of the anti-vaccine movements and conspiracy people claiming that I had triple, I wondered what it is, triple COVID. | |
| There was, I think you got hundreds of thousands of clicks and so on. | ||
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I know you were also target. | |
| I read one day what was arrested by FBI. | ||
| Yeah, same happened to me. | ||
| And there are pictures, pictures of me and FBI officers. | ||
| I don't know how. | ||
| I never said. | ||
| The surprising thing is that the same publication I found out because I had published, the previous one that was arrested was the Pope. | ||
| Ridiculous. | ||
| We are good company. | ||
| At least I was in good company. | ||
| Yeah, but... | ||
| So what they do is they put out the disinfo themselves. | ||
| They're mass murdering criminals. | ||
| And no, you're not the target. | ||
| You are the target. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| Wait, you're not the target, you are the target. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I guess he means you're not the target of misinformation, you're the target of our guns or something. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| That's the most sensible read I can make of that because it doesn't really make sense. | ||
| No. | ||
| So yeah, I just thought that was kind of funny that Alex played that. | ||
| That is pretty funny. | ||
| Because I don't think that's necessarily specifically about InfoWars, but it is funny that Steve Pachenicki said that the Pope was arrested. | ||
| That's pretty Steve Pachenicki. | ||
| I think he's referencing Steve in person? | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| Yeah, come on. | ||
| There's other people who think that the Pope has been arrested. | ||
| I think a lot of people in QAnon have pushed that. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| Less specifically than Steve, maybe. | ||
| Man, I would like to see if the Pope had a lojack. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Just... | ||
| They lift up his robes for a second, and you're like, oh, he's got that ankle bracelet! | ||
| Ah, I see that shit! | ||
| So, this plays, and then they go to commercial. | ||
| And when they come back from commercial, Thomas Renz realizes, hey, I gotta fucking respond to Schwab in that clip. | ||
| And this is the worst promo I've ever heard. | ||
| Oh, is he doing it? | ||
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Well, let me open up with one thing super important, Alex. | |
| I want to respond to that last clip that you just played. | ||
| Because those two arrogant pieces of garbage that are out there telling us what they're going to do and laughing about being in good company, I got a message for you guys. | ||
| I'm a nobody from a little town in Ohio. | ||
| Yeah, you are. | ||
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And me and a whole bunch of other nobodies from little places in the United States. | |
| It stood up, and we are at a much lower rate of vaccination than you ever thought we would be. | ||
| You thought you were going to take us over. | ||
| You didn't know. | ||
| We nobodies, we are the resistance. | ||
| We, the people, thanks to Alex Jones, we have a voice. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Put him on. | ||
| Look out, Shay. | ||
| We got a new t-shirt coming into colleges all over the world. | ||
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Whoa, that's the leader of the resistance right there. | |
| We have such a low vaccination rate. | ||
| Lower than you could have imagined. | ||
| And it's thanks to Alex's bullhorn. | ||
| What an absurd thing. | ||
| Ha ha! | ||
| Our vaccination rate is lower than you ever thought. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| You got us. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Some people just don't know how to say arrogant well. | ||
| So we get to the discussion of monkeypox, and it's pretty dumb. | ||
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So we've got, and I just put it on my substack, I just put out a substack today to get ready to talk to you. | |
| We've got... | ||
| They've done gain-of-function on monkeypox. | ||
| So monkeypox normally doesn't spread very easy. | ||
| And I'm hoping it doesn't spread very easy here. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
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They've got the exact same scenario happening with the monkeypox that they had with COVID. | |
| They ran their simulations. | ||
| They've been planning for it. | ||
| They've been building up beer. | ||
| All this nonsense. | ||
| So here's my question. | ||
| Is the monkeypox that's running around now, is this a natural monkeypox or is this another gain of function, oops, release, right? | ||
| And we don't know that yet. | ||
| We don't. | ||
| The only reason that Thomas Renz doesn't know what the situation is with Monkeypox is because he is an idiot and he hasn't looked into it at all. | ||
| He's a right-wing clout doctor writing his anti-vax shit for all it's worth, and he sees another fun season of scamming for Monkeypox if he plays his cards right. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| minutes on the subject before writing that substack and coming on alex's show to discuss a topic he knows nothing about he would know that samples from the current outbreak have been studied and are clearly from the west african strain that has existed for a long time yeah there are a number of theories about exactly how the outbreak has happened and a couple of them involving raves and large gatherings sure in various countries sure but more will likely be known specifically in time yeah what | ||
| currently no evidence of is that monkeypox was made in a lab as a bioweapon or is going to lead to lockdowns or forced vaccinations. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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That's all just the dumb bullshit that people like Alex and Wrens used to keep their customer base scared and... | |
| In their customer base. | ||
| Yeah, you know, it's been a long time since we've had to use that old adage, you know, a rave in Denmark means monkeypox in Florida, but it's holding strong. | ||
| Still, after all these years. | ||
| Thomas Jefferson. | ||
| Thomas Jefferson. | ||
| You know, I was just thinking, we're going to hear that over the next rest of our lives again and again and again and again. | ||
| This is just like what they did with COVID, is going to dog us until we die. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| For 20 years from now, they're going to be like, oh, this is just like the gain of function they did with COVID. | ||
| It's just never going to stop. | ||
| But I think, unfortunately, you did have that exact dynamic playing out just in under-the-surface conspiracy communities. | ||
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Sure. | |
| With, like, terrorist attacks. | ||
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Right. | |
| Just like 9-11. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| That kind of stuff. | ||
| Those conspiracy communities were just largely ignored. | ||
| They did not have as much impact on people's actual lives. | ||
| And so, yeah, I think it's more a publicness and awareness. | ||
| problem than it is like a this thought process is like that's not new. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| It's just it having an impact on people who don't choose to engage with dumb conspiracy worlds. | ||
| That's the difference. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And that's unfortunate. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So we have one last clip here. | ||
| And I think it's a little bat hedging. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Because, hey, maybe it's not going to be monkeypox. | ||
| All right, all right. | ||
| So this is like Pascal's wager for InfoWars. | ||
| Look, maybe it's not going to be monkeypox. | ||
| Now I'm saying it is. | ||
| Monkeypox is, hey, looks like it could be a false flag. | ||
| Looks like it might have been made in a lab. | ||
| But if it's not... | ||
| I don't think there's a god, but, hey, I'm just going to say maybe I believe in him. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| But if it's not monkeypox, probably be something else. | ||
| Probably something else. | ||
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You know, if it's not the monkeypox, we already know they're talking about the next new variant for COVID. | |
| You know, there's going to be a next thing. | ||
| They're not giving this up. | ||
| And we either defeat this evil or it will continue coming after us. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| They're getting us into a rhythm of lockdowns and surveillance and forced injection. | ||
| They're getting us into the new normal. | ||
| In their own words, we can't let them do that. | ||
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Well, and let's not overlook the summer of rage. | |
| I did another substack. | ||
| I talked about the summer of rage. | ||
| Let's not overlook the summer of rage. | ||
| Oh, you think Alex has talked about this? | ||
| I think Alex has talked about the Summer of Rage. | ||
| I think Alex has in the past spoken sparingly of the Summer of Rage. | ||
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God. | |
| I can't handle that being a present day thing that is being talked about. | ||
| It's the Summer of Rage. | ||
| This thing that we hear every year on Alex's stupid show. | ||
| Summer of Rage. | ||
| So yeah, I think this is a disgraceful next day. | ||
| But one of the things that I think is worth noting is that a lot of the shifting details did not necessarily happen in the first day. | ||
| Some of that happened a little bit further down the line. | ||
| But you already see the nebulousness of this in terms of Alex's coverage. | ||
| The day of when he did his emergency report, we had this misidentification and everything is psych meds. | ||
| And now we have Misreporting that is understandable about the Border Patrol guy going in quick. | ||
| And... | ||
| I just think it's really weird that he said that there wasn't a stand-down. | ||
| I mean, it's almost like it validates him making shit up. | ||
| Because when he tried not to make shit up, it was wrong. | ||
| It was a lie. | ||
| He can't be right no matter what. | ||
| He just can't do it. | ||
| So he's like, well, I might as well fucking make it up. | ||
| Even when I try not to make it up, I'm... | ||
| Filled with shit! | ||
| It makes the Alex Jones is right memes all the more bizarre. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| So yeah, we'll be back on Monday, and we'll track a little bit further down the road and see how things go as details start to emerge and Alex has to deal with stuff that might be in his kind of wheelhouse. | ||
| He's gotta stay one step ahead. | ||
| But when there is chaos and confusion, that is something that he is well-versed in exploiting. | ||
| And the cement is still wet. | ||
| True. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's long, long drying. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So we will see what happens. | ||
| But until then, Jordan, we have a website. | ||
| We do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
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Yep. | |
| We're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight and I go to bed, Jordan. | ||
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Yep. | |
| We'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| I hope you all have a dreamy, creamy summer. | ||
| And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |
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