#687: May 24, 2022
Today, Dan and Jordan check in on an "Emergency Report" that Alex put out on the evening of May 24, hours after the shooting in Uvalde. Spoiler alert: it's not great coverage. Citations
May 30, 2022 - Knowledge Fight
02:27:57
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| It's time to pray. | ||
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I have great respect for knowledge fight. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| I need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding us. | ||
|
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I love your world. | ||
| KnowledgeFight. | ||
| KnowledgeFight.com I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to KnowledgeFight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
|
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I'm Dan. | |
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Dan! | ||
| Dan! | ||
| Quick question for you. | ||
| What's your bright spot today? | ||
| My bright spot today, Jordan, some may call this trivial, some may call this unimportant, but that's what the bright spots are often about. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| I was grocery shopping, and I noticed something that I didn't really realize existed, but I kind of probably did in the back of my mind. | ||
| Leprechauns. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I got a leprechaun. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I bought Lucky Charm. | ||
| No, sauce cups. | ||
| Sauce cups? | ||
| Disposable sauce cups. | ||
| No, I understand. | ||
| Yeah, in the paper plates section. | ||
| I didn't realize they would just sell a big pack of sauce cups. | ||
| No, you assume you can only get those from a restaurant. | ||
| They're the only ones who have access to sauce cups technology. | ||
| I figured there would be an embargo on just civilians buying sauce cups. | ||
| Why would I go to a restaurant if I could buy my own sauce cups? | ||
| I love to dip. | ||
| Dipping is a hobby of mine. | ||
| Many people love dipping. | ||
| And so this was really exciting, and I've enjoyed it. | ||
| It's made me think, like, okay, I got this bag of them, and that's great. | ||
| But this is eventually going to get very wasteful. | ||
| I may need to see if I could find reusable of the exact same size. | ||
| Like, why not? | ||
| That's got to exist somewhere, right? | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| That might be my next bright spot. | ||
| I mean, I think it's called Tupperware. | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, Tupperware does come in a lot of sizes. | ||
| I guess probably there are some that are... | ||
| I bet they've got sauce cup Tupperwares. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| I'll have to get you in contact with my Tupperware party friend. | ||
| Your mom? | ||
| So yeah, what's your bright spot? | ||
| My bright spot, Dan, is I had a great Friday. | ||
| I had a great Friday. | ||
| First thing first, I finished my hand tattoo. | ||
| I noticed it looked a little bit darker. | ||
| Yeah, it was great. | ||
| Got a nice little contrast in there. | ||
| Added some shadows there. | ||
| And then later on, I finally got to speak in, not person, but in audio with Molly at Socialist Dog Mom. | ||
| We watched The Magicians together. | ||
| And? | ||
| And it went great! | ||
| And? | ||
| And what? | ||
| And the stream exploded because the power in my entire block shut off after a suspicious explosion-y sound. | ||
| So somebody's Transformer probably blew up. | ||
| Yeah, it might not be as suspicious as you're making it out to be. | ||
| No one was sabotaging your stream. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Transformer kind of made a big noise and then everything crashed. | ||
| But until then... | ||
| Without a hitch. | ||
| Yeah, you were texting me about your power being out, and I was enjoying trying to be a detective. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, looking into it and seeing if, like, ooh, can we find an update? | ||
| I thought for sure that there would be something. | ||
| That was a really large-sounding explosion. | ||
| It was weird to me how long it took for anything to show up on ComEd's outage map. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But yeah, eventually it did. | ||
| How long did it last? | ||
| When did your power come back on? | ||
| Probably about four hours. | ||
| Did you pick back up on the stream? | ||
| We tried to, but Molly had gone to sleep at that point. | ||
| Unfortunately. | ||
| Well, I'm glad that it went well while it did. | ||
| While it was, it was. | ||
| And probably next time there won't be a Transformer explosion. | ||
| I hope not. | ||
| Unless it is suspicious. | ||
| Unless that's the case. | ||
|
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Then you're fucked. | |
| It's going to be every time. | ||
| There's the stream saboteur out there. | ||
| You never know when he's going to serial stream saboteur you. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Triple S. Serial stream saboteur. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| Yep. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| Last week we decided that it was not in anyone's best interest for us to cover Alex's response to the Uvalde shooting. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But the time has come, and today we are going to be getting into that. | ||
| So here's the sort of syllabus of things. | ||
| Today is almost a bottle episode, you could say. | ||
| And as much as we're just going to be talking about Alex's emergency report from that night, from May 24th, 2022. | ||
| Hours after the shooting. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And so we're going to be covering that and then on Wednesday we'll get into more of the like continuing coverage. | ||
| But just because this was such a immediate document of Alex's response and some other stuff. | ||
| It felt like it had a standalone quality. | ||
| We can see what's going on. | ||
| And then as we cover more of the time afterwards, you can see how things maybe develop. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And one of the reasons that I'm giving this caveat is because as we're recording in the present day, we are aware of a number of things that it's unfair to judge Alex by. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| On this day. | ||
| Naturally. | ||
| Like in terms of the police response and a lot of that conversation. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That is awareness that we have that we shouldn't transpose onto what we're covering today. | ||
| Correct. | ||
|
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And it's difficult to sort of segment that off. | |
| Sure. | ||
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But that's more of a discussion for Wednesday. | |
| No, of course not. | ||
| It's just a lot of that information was not known. | ||
| And you can really only judge somebody by the information that's known and what they do with it. | ||
| When they do what they do. | ||
| This bears close reading within the context that it is given, as opposed to bringing whatever it is we decide to bring to. | ||
| And maybe this is being a little bit too precise with things, but I think in the context of this coverage, of an event that is this... | ||
| Monumental. | ||
| And traumatic. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I think it bears that. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So we'll get to this episode, but first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| Oh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, Matticus Finch. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, Andy from Canada. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, Amplexus, Satan's middle management HR assistant. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, Ben from the Year of Our Lord 2020 Rob Dew. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, Look Coop. | ||
| I made it on the show. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
|
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Thank you. | |
| And we got a couple of technocrats here in the mix. | ||
| So first, even better, better, musclier Nate. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| And Deesmon and Dottie Clay, a Creed and Nickelback Fusion cover band. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| I have risen above my enemies. | ||
| I might quit tomorrow, actually. | ||
| I'm just going to take a little breaky now. | ||
| A little breaky for me. | ||
| And then we're going to come back. | ||
| And I'm going to start the show over. | ||
| But I'm the devil! | ||
| I've got to be taken off the air! | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| I got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your New World Order, and fuck the horse you rode in on, and all your shit! | ||
| Maybe today should be my last broadcast. | ||
| Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. | ||
| Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow, and you never see me again. | ||
| That's really what I want to do. | ||
| I never want to come back here again. | ||
| I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. | ||
| I'll be better tomorrow. | ||
| A million times he is not. | ||
| He's not better. | ||
| He is not better tomorrow. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Nope, absolutely not. | ||
| Now, this was recorded at 7 in the evening, Central Time, in Austin. | ||
| And I'll just give a little bit of a caveat warning, maybe. | ||
| I think Alex is a little drunk. | ||
| I don't know if he's drunk, but he's not communicating the normal way that he does. | ||
| And, you know, I want to give a little bit of a possible explanation in that, like, maybe he's just really tired. | ||
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Sure! | |
| I don't know, but there are mannerisms that are like, this guy seems a little bit off. | ||
| Whatever we're dealing with, it is an altered state. | ||
| Whatever the case for it may be. | ||
| It feels that way, and I think that that's part of the reason that he has Owen Troyer co-hosting with him. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Because I don't think Alex could have handled doing this on his own. | ||
| No, so they went back into the studio to record this. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Gotcha. | ||
| And I have a strong feeling that Alex, for whatever reason, there was a lack of energy that was there, and so, of course, you need... | ||
| And Owen handles a lot of this. | ||
| He's doing a fair amount of heavy lifting. | ||
|
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Bad. | |
| So we start off here at the beginning, and Alex, I mean, I feel like this is a little bit weird. | ||
| He seems a little bit hyped, almost, for the idea that this special report is happening. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, we are live on Tuesday night, May 24th. | ||
| 18 Dead in South Texas. | ||
| Live coverage, Ted Nugent, Owen Schroer, myself, Alex Jones, coming up. | ||
|
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InfoWars, the most banned network in the world. | |
| So there is like a, hey, this is coming up. | ||
| It feels unnecessary, and it struck me as a little bit like, ugh. | ||
| Yeah, I don't necessarily appreciate showmanship as a way to get people to draw into your broadcast. | ||
| A teaser sting of like, we got Ted Nugent coming up. | ||
| It is especially a voice that says, get excited for what I have to say about this thing. | ||
| We've got a great show for you about this. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And it's, yeah, the tone is off. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If Jimmy Carson was announcing, like, we've got Ted Nugent coming on after this, you're not far off. | ||
| Yeah, I felt like we were maybe not where I hoped this would be. | ||
| Yeah, not a good start. | ||
| So there's a bit of a special report video package thing that plays after Alex does this promotional sting. | ||
| And here's where we start the report proper. | ||
| It's 7.08 Central Standard Time. | ||
| I'm your host, Alex Jones. | ||
| I'm Troy, your host of the War Room Riding Shotgun. | ||
| Ted Nugent, NRA board member, joining us coming up in the next hour. | ||
| You don't like doing emergency broadcasts like this. | ||
| Texas has had a mass shooting in elementary school in Uvalde, outside of San Antonio. | ||
| And they are now reporting 18 dead students, three adults killed. | ||
| In the Uvalde school shooting, I've talked to a lot of law enforcement sources. | ||
| It's too early to say anything, but it's very bizarre that this reported individual who appears to be a transgender, like the person that attacked Dave Chappelle last month, had killed his grandmother reportedly, and the board patrol was after him, and then he ran to the school, crashed his vehicle, got in, killed all these people. | ||
| And then they were saying he was captured, but now they're reporting he is dead. | ||
| If Alex doesn't like doing these special reports, I have some really good news for him. | ||
| He absolutely doesn't have to. | ||
| The only reason that he's doing this is to strike while the iron's hot. | ||
| It's the exact same impetus that drove his actions immediately after the Buffalo shooting. | ||
| He was gonna take the day off and have a guest host, but he couldn't resist the attention of how large the audience was in the wake of the shooting. | ||
| He literally said that on his own show on air. | ||
| Now, Royce White is a former NBA player, a martial arts fighter as well, mixed martial arts, and he has really been kicking ass running against Ilhan Omar. | ||
| He is about to take over here, ladies and gentlemen, and he's got a special guest, David Penn, political activist, international businessman. | ||
| He was set to host today, but things were so hot with such a giant audience, I just thought I had to come in and give you my baseline on what's going on. | ||
| And then I'll be back in the second segment, hour two, to play the excerpts where I predicted all this very, very specifically. | ||
| Alex knows full well by this point that tragedies are opportunities for him, and he exploits them to the fullest. | ||
| That's what's driving this emergency coverage, not a journalistic obligation to cover the story in a way that serves the audience and helps inform people. | ||
| And one of the big tells about this is that he says that the shooter in this case was supposedly trans, just like the person who attacked Dave Chappelle recently. | ||
| Both of these pieces of information are not true, but Alex knows that transphobia is very popular in his audience and the larger right-wing community right now, so he can contextualize this shooting that way, and he'll be able to fold it into his other narratives very easily. | ||
| The person who attacked Dave Chappelle is named Isaiah Lee, and he is a cis man who has given varying explanations for his actions. | ||
| It might be because he identifies as bisexual, or that he was unhoused and Chappelle was making jokes about these things, or he also told NBC News that, quote, another comedian in the show made a joke about pedophilia and that, having been molested, it was triggered. | ||
| This situation is a bit difficult to parse out specifically, and after the incident, the person he lived with in a transitional housing apartment accused Lee of stabbing him during a fight back in December, and he's now being charged with attempted murder in that case. | ||
| There's a lot going on there, but one thing is clear, and that is that Lee is not trans. | ||
| That's just a narrative that was concocted by the right-wing media to demonize trans people. | ||
| And it was very easy for them to do that, too, because Chappelle himself kind of helped. | ||
| After he was attacked, Chappelle joked that the person who did it was a trans man, playing on the very well understood reality that a bunch of his recent work has hurt a lot of people in the trans community and playing on that idea that they would attack in retaliation. | ||
| Or something. | ||
| And that facilitated the ease of that narrative sticking, and you can see it being parroted by Alex, though not true. | ||
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You got it. | |
| The shooting in Uvalde started at approximately 11.30 a.m., and only a few hours later, people on 4chan began circulating images of a trans woman that they were claiming was the shooter in an intentional effort to perpetuate an anti-trans hoax. | ||
| People on 4chan do this thing kind of thing all the time, and Alex falls for it a lot, as was discussed in the Kit Daniels deposition about how he was fooled by a 4chan hoax, which led him to misidentifying Marcel Fontaine as the Parkland shooter. | ||
| Alex is doing the exact same thing here, fully illustrating that he's learned exactly zero lessons from the lawsuits he's been facing. | ||
| Alex has time-stamped this very conveniently for us, and he says that it's 7.08 Central Time, and from there we can see what information was widely available for him to operate off of. | ||
| There were multiple trans women who were targeted by these smear campaigns. | ||
| The first of them goes by Sabrina, and at 6.16pm, she had posted on Twitter that she was not the shooter, even going so far as to post new pictures in the same location as the photo being used by trolls to accuse her at 7.04pm. | ||
| It makes sense that Alex wouldn't have time to see these new pics that Sabrina posted, but there's no reason for him not to be aware that this was a hoax by the time that he got on air. | ||
| There was a second trans woman named Sam who was targeted by these hoaxes, and one of the most likely ways that Alex would have possibly found out about this was at some time prior to 6.39pm, Andrew Torba, the head of Gab, reposted an accusation that Sam was the shooter. | ||
| This post had been made by an account called The Nose, which is apparently a verified account on Gab. | ||
| I took a little stroll through that account, and here's the first pinned post they have. | ||
| Quote, a homogenous society is similar to a healthy, functioning immune system able to detect threats. | ||
| I'm a giant anti-Semite racist. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Pretty easy to see what's going on there. | ||
| Also, their bio starts, quote, noticing noses. | ||
| So it's really cool that the head of Gab is not only following this guy, but also amplifying their posts where they baselessly accuse someone of killing elementary school students in order to foment hate towards trans people. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think he was talking about specifically Roman patricians. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| By 6.30pm, people on Twitter were pushing back against this, an amplifying post Sam had made that showed that she was not the shooter, and in fact was still alive. | ||
| The bottom line is that there is no acceptable reason for Alex to be on air reporting the story this way. | ||
| This is one of the first details he's providing about the story, so it seems like it's something very important to him, and he's done literally nothing to check in on it. | ||
| At best, he saw something on 4 Chain and decided to run with it, despite him being sued for doing exactly that about another shooting and... | ||
| And his corporate representative testifying under oath that 4chan is not a source he would use. | ||
| At worst, he's reporting this based on Andrew Torba's reposting of a clear anti-Semite, transphobe, and white nationalist account on Gab who's just repeating random shit that they saw on 4chan or Reddit. | ||
| Again, there's no clear evidence that Alex has not learned any lessons from his lawsuits, and that his hatred of trans folks far supersedes his obligation to report accurate information. | ||
| And you can see that just from the jump here. | ||
| It's bad. | ||
| Yeah, and it's like, I understand it's worse than if he was targeting individuals. | ||
| Like, the idea that you can't... | ||
| I mean, I get it. | ||
| You can't sue him because he's saying that it's just a trans person. | ||
| But ultimately, that's more destructive. | ||
| That's looking at everybody who's trans and saying that they're a fucking murderer coming from Alex's mouth. | ||
| He's not saying that specifically at this point in time, but from his mouth, that's what it means. | ||
| I think there's a couple things to disentangle, and one is I kind of agree with you because there is a broad target that's being put on trans people by this kind of coverage. | ||
| And the sort of pseudo-vagueness of it. | ||
| But secondarily, Alex does use some very clear, distinguishing comments that make it clear that he is talking specifically about Sam. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Well, then... | ||
| That's the person whose pictures he's talking about. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it's... | ||
| The issue is that you have both going on. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Yeah, I don't know why he would do something like this. | ||
| Well, I mean, I do. | ||
| But I can't imagine being so committed to being bad at your job that you do this. | ||
| I mean, I just don't, you know. | ||
| Like, I know that the judge is going to see that very information as soon as possible. | ||
| It probably already has. | ||
| But, I mean, if you see that now, in the middle of what he's doing now, Don't you just say, fuck off, the end. | ||
| It does seem to illustrate malice, and it seems to illustrate continuing refusal to understand why the things he did initially were wrong. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| But yeah, I don't know what kind of impact that has on legal cases. | ||
| I guess that will remain to be seen, but yeah, if I were him, I just probably wouldn't do that stuff. | ||
| You would think. | ||
| But that just... | ||
| But if he didn't, then his audience would revolt on him. | ||
| He has to... | ||
| He cannot... | ||
| Not give a statement about this. | ||
| Oh, but he doesn't need to do this. | ||
| No, he doesn't. | ||
| No, he does not. | ||
| I think it's a testament to how much he, how highly he values his knee-jerk hatreds and being able to express them. | ||
| That is something that has a far higher value to him than being responsible. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's hard to, you know... | ||
| It's hard to keep center in your mind at all times, but the end goal for all of these people is a society where they can just say, oh, it's a trans person, it's trans people's fault, whenever they fucking want. | ||
| That's what they want! | ||
| Well... | ||
| You know? | ||
| It's not a fucking... | ||
| I think a lot of cases, yeah, that's true. | ||
| I think when you're looking specifically at Alex's coverage, I think it's easier to say, like, that is exactly what he would want to do, at least... | ||
| Maybe for other reasons, but at least because that's a convenient way for him to not talk about guns. | ||
| Sure, absolutely. | ||
| And I think that that's the phenomenon that you're going to see even beyond the transphobia. | ||
| It's going to be grasping at straws trying to find any way to make this about something else. | ||
| And that's what he does immediately after this, just trying to find other rationalizations. | ||
| Here's the takeaway here. | ||
| No one is lessening the deaths of these children. | ||
| And it's terrible, and I have four children, one of them five years old. | ||
| It tears at my guts and makes me pissed off. | ||
| We have 40-plus million people that died the last two years under globalist lockdowns from starvation. | ||
| We have the New World Order launching massive wars. | ||
| We have all of the depopulation agenda going on, and I predicted, in fact, cue it up from last week. | ||
| We'll play it in about 30 minutes. | ||
| Alex Jones predicted mass shooting at a black grocery store. | ||
| And I said, going into the midterms, now with 168 days out, all the pre-programming is the terror attacks, the mass shootings are going to happen. | ||
| They weren't happening. | ||
| It's so transparent how Alex only brings up these talking points about statistics about food insecurity in the developing world whenever he needs to use them to minimize an atrocity that intersects with something he cares about. | ||
| If he needs to complain about people wearing masks, then he brings up the issue of people starving and presents it as something that's been solely caused by COVID prevention measures. | ||
| If he needs to minimize the murder of 19 children in elementary school and two teachers, he brings up the number of starving people to make that number of children look small. | ||
| He's a spineless coward, and I would take this a little more seriously if he seemed to care about those issues relating to food access in the developing world when it wasn't just something he was using as a shield to not address the issue that he's supposed to be covering. | ||
| Also, I'm thrilled to see that Alex is taking credit for calling this one, even though he made a huge deal out of how the Buffalo shooting was what he predicted because he said black grocery store. | ||
| I guess if you get to claim that you're some kind of a genius for predicting that a school shooting would happen eventually, then everyone in the world is a genius because we all knew it was coming. | ||
| There were dips in the number of school shootings and mass shootings in general for a while because of COVID lockdowns. | ||
| There were less mass gatherings of people and schools were closed in many places. | ||
| That said, there have still been plenty of school shootings since 2020. | ||
| The list on Wikipedia includes 72 shootings at schools since the beginning of 2020. | ||
| Alex's premise is that they've been hyping up this idea of school shootings in order to get someone to do one because it's a copycat crime that the globalists are trying to incite. | ||
| But that premise is stupid, because there have been all of these school shootings that have happened that weren't hyped up, and Alex has no idea that even happened. | ||
| A bunch of them happened in Texas, his home state as well, and he still doesn't know. | ||
| For instance, does Alex remember that on October 6th, 2021, a man opened fire at Timberview High School in Arlington, Texas, injuring four people? | ||
| I've never heard him bring that up. | ||
| Does Alex remember that less than a week before that, a 25-year-old dude broke into Yes Prep Southwest School in Houston and shot the principal? | ||
| He doesn't remember these things, because he never heard about them and he didn't cover them. | ||
| The point is that if the media truly were hyping up school shootings in the way Alex is pretending, there would have been wall-to-wall coverage of the tons of school shootings that have happened that Alex and most people in the country never heard happened, because this stuff has just kind of become a twisted reality of our modern lives. | ||
| There are already a ton of excuses. | ||
| is he's trying them out to see what's going to fly. | ||
| He's asserted that the shooter is trans, so if that works out for him, he can make this about his transphobic narratives instead of about guns. | ||
| He's blamed the media for supposedly hyping up shooters, Oh, you're upset about 19 dead kids? | ||
| What about all the people in the developing world without food? | ||
| Not so righteous now, are you? | ||
| It's really transparent how much of a threat this is to Alex, and he's behaving accordingly. | ||
| He knows damn well that this is the sort of event that has precipitated tighter gun regulation in other countries in the past, so he has to do a full-court press immediately to try and create new narratives about the shooting while this cement is still working. | ||
| And you see it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| This is graphic imagery, but... | ||
| I really do think that it's a one-to-one comparison, and it's a good thought to have in your mind whenever he says shit like this, because it is fucked up. | ||
| But whenever he's like, listen, I predicted this. | ||
| I'm so smart for predicting all of this shit. | ||
| He is masturbating with a dead child's hand. | ||
| That is what's fucking happening. | ||
| Here's a little graphic. | ||
| It's graphic. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| That's what it fucking is. | ||
| And he gets to just say it because it's just fucking words, you know? | ||
| You don't see anything. | ||
| It is words to him. | ||
| It's just words to him. | ||
| It's words and self-aggrandizement. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| It's kind of a more macabre and disgusting version of the sort of classic I told you so kind of thing. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And it's... | ||
| No, and it's not just I told you so. | ||
| I would love for it to just be an I told you so. | ||
| It is a look at how great I am. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, and we did this with the Buffalo shooting. | ||
| I mean, we demonstrated how he didn't really predict that at all, but he did say Black Grocery Store in a prediction about... | ||
| Shootings that were going to happen a year ago when the audit of the 2020 election was going to drop. | ||
| And he doesn't even have that to rely on. | ||
| No, but he had that, the optics of that that he was working with. | ||
| And now he's trying to apply it to this, even though the circumstances are totally different. | ||
| It's all just shit. | ||
| It's just fucked up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just fucked up. | ||
| He's not a good dude. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| So Alex has another theory about what might have caused this. | ||
| And this is... | ||
| Just awful. | ||
| There are a lot of mentally ill people and they see mass shootings being hyped up and being pushed. | ||
| And Sandy Hook, Sandy Hook, Sandy Hook, using my name, by the way, attaching itself to me in the news every day. | ||
| And a lot of these psychopaths think, well, that's something I could do. | ||
| Too early to tell. | ||
| There's a lot of blurred stuff going on as this develops. | ||
| That's a disgusting and almost inhuman level of narcissism that Alex is displaying. | ||
| He's actually claiming that coverage of the lawsuit against him over his claims about Sandy Hook may have been part of the reason this shooting happened. | ||
| So if I understand correctly, people shouldn't have sued Alex because that'll end up causing coverage of the reason he's being sued, and then mentally ill people will hear about this mass shooting and think, ah, I should do that. | ||
| Is that the argument that he's making? | ||
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Yep. | |
| That's... | ||
| Ridiculous. | ||
| I believe his argument is stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself. | ||
| Well, really, this mass shooting happened because you're persecuting me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What? | ||
| I am going to abuse you as much as humanly possible and then blame you for the outcome. | ||
| I really just don't understand how you can see things and insist they're about you in such a disgusting fashion. | ||
| It's... | ||
| I... | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Not in a good way. | ||
| No. | ||
| It amazes. | ||
| No, it really, you know, it is something that when we talked to John Ronson, you know, he brought up that idea of like, what are we judging Alex based upon, you know? | ||
| Like, we're judging him based upon human society, and he doesn't belong there, you know, period. | ||
| So he just lives by a completely different set of... | ||
| Existence, you know? | ||
| I still go back to that moment when we were talking to him when he asked if Alex repeats himself. | ||
| And I said yes. | ||
| And Ronson seemed disappointed to hear that. | ||
| And I felt... | ||
| I think about that a bit because, like, you know, John Ronson's somebody who knows Alex. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| You know, presumably has some familiarity with him. | ||
| And even for him, it was kind of a deflating idea that Alex doesn't just... | ||
| Nope. | ||
| It's not off the dome. | ||
| It's not brand new every time. | ||
| It's just the same bullshit over and over and over again. | ||
| Yeah, it's like seeing a riff comedian multiple times and you realize, oh, they do the same kind of thing every time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway, Alex has another theory about why... | ||
| These, the shootings happening? | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| One, two, not enough. | ||
| No, we gotta have like a whole bunch. | ||
| 40, 50. We've got the world government, UN treaty taking place. | ||
| We've got the borders collapsing, thousands dying every few months down there. | ||
| No news coverage to speak of. | ||
| And now we have this. | ||
| All I know is we're in the season of the midterms and right on time, the psychopaths strike. | ||
| What do you think's going on, Owen Schroyer? | ||
| So there's a lot going through my head right now. | ||
| Let's bring up the midterms that are coming up, which you just mentioned. | ||
| I have no doubt that this is going to be used to promote Beto O 'Rourke here, running for governor against Abbott. | ||
| I have no doubt Beto O 'Rourke is pretty much running a losing campaign right now. | ||
| He can barely fill a high school auditorium. | ||
| Really not even auditorium, like a classroom. | ||
| He can't even fill a high school classroom. | ||
| And so they need something to promote Beto in Texas. | ||
| Yeah, so this is about the midterm somehow. | ||
| I feel like it's still pretty early in this emergency special report, and we're speculating that this has some connection to midterm elections. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Wow. | ||
| This is what I'm kind of talking about when we, like, our last episode of the Project Camelot 1, we're talking about the merging of conspiracy and politics. | ||
| Like, it's just... | ||
| What the fuck are you doing? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What the fuck are you honestly doing? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, deep down... | ||
| What the fuck are you doing? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex has been building up kind of this idea that there weren't these shootings. | ||
| There weren't shootings happening. | ||
| And now the midterm's happening. | ||
| And all of a sudden, here are shootings. | ||
| So he's saying that we didn't live in America for the past two years. | ||
| Well, he's pretending. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then Owen kind of deflates that. | ||
| There's so many different angles, Alex, when I look at this. | ||
| Okay, so... | ||
| We've had over 200 mass shootings in this country in the year 2022 alone. | ||
| 200 mass shootings, but only two of them have made the media, the national press, and that's the one in Buffalo most recently, and then, of course, this one today in Texas. | ||
| That's right, when it's Asian on Asian or Black on Asian, no coverage. | ||
| So here, Owen accidentally deflates Alex's entire narrative about hyping up mass shootings. | ||
| If there have been over 200 of them and there has only been major media coverage of two, that tends to make the argument that the media is actually downplaying mass shootings. | ||
| Alex kind of realizes that that's the point that you would draw from this conversation, so he throws out a distraction point about how he feels that shootings done by non-white people don't get coverage. | ||
| Again, this is literally the fraudulent talking point that Dylann Roof cited as being his radicalization point towards carrying out the Charleston shootings. | ||
| Alex should probably stop repeating it all the time. | ||
| Owen's lying, or has no idea what he's talking about here. | ||
| There has been media coverage of other shootings this year. | ||
| Owen is also playing games here, because he knows exactly why there's been more media attention as it relates to the Buffalo and Uvalde shootings. | ||
| Firstly, of all the mass shootings that have occurred this year, these are the two with the highest death tolls by a considerable amount. | ||
| Second, they are the shootings that have particularly horrific characteristics that make them more painful to the general population. | ||
| In the instance of Buffalo, there was a shooter who was a white nationalist who set out to carry this shooting out specifically to kill black people. | ||
| In the case of Uvalde, though there weren't many details available when Owen's on air, it was a fucking elementary school, and they knew that at least 18 children had been murdered. | ||
| Owen knows these dynamics perfectly well, but he's pretending not to in order to make it suspicious that these two shootings have gotten more attention and imply that it has something to do with the midterms. | ||
| This is unacceptable behavior, and Owen should be deeply ashamed of himself for this kind of coverage. | ||
| The reason they act like this is because this story and stories like this threaten their basic far-right ideology on almost every level, so they have to attack that reality when these stories exist at all costs. | ||
| And that's why they're sort of warping reality around the way they are. | ||
| It's shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, you know, it is also one of those things where it doesn't matter what happens. | ||
| That is going to stay the same. | ||
| I kind of don't even understand why they bother with finding alternate explanations as opposed to just saying, you know what? | ||
| Yeah, it's guns' fault, but we love guns so much that we're going to let your kids die whenever they die. | ||
| Yeah, I wonder if that would play. | ||
| Well, I mean, I don't know why not. | ||
| Everybody knows it. | ||
| I think that maybe you don't have... | ||
| I don't know if you have a great handle on maybe the psychology of... | ||
| Some of the people who are more drawn towards Alex's world. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, well, obviously denial is a state of existence that you have to enjoy if you don't live in reality with the rest of us. | ||
| Even if you do live in reality, a certain amount of denial is necessary to make it through. | ||
| Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I think that what you're saying is a blunt thing that I don't know if I could argue that it would... | ||
| dramatically change things. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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But I don't think that that's a mentality that even a lot of the supporters of Alex's show would sign on to. | |
| Yeah, maybe not. | ||
| Maybe not. | ||
| And they'd have to get to it gradually. | ||
| Well, you know, I think it's just something that we don't want to find out yet. | ||
| I think they would rather not find out if that's going to fly just yet. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| You're deep into hypothetical. | ||
| I am deep into hypothetical. | ||
| We're in speculation territory for me real hard. | ||
| But, I mean, while we're in speculation territory, Owen really thinks that this is the midterm issue. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| See, this is where it's kind of like, alright, this is a non- Right. | ||
| I don't think that necessarily that's like... | ||
| I don't think it has a lot of meaning. | ||
| I don't think that night is the time necessarily where it has the most value to discuss, but it's not the same as a lot of the other conspiracy theorizing that's going on. | ||
| And so that's kind of where Owen's head's at. | ||
| And I feel that really, it goes beyond the racial lines. | ||
| With this, I think that they're really drumming up the mass shootings as a news story here before the midterms, because the Democrats have nothing, Alex. | ||
| I mean, we have to remember, it's a midterm election year. | ||
| Democrats politicize everything to try to get people to vote. | ||
| So, I mean, look at all the things they've tried. | ||
| They've tried racism. | ||
| They've tried the abortion issue. | ||
| They've tried Ukraine. | ||
| It's all failed. | ||
| It's all flopped. | ||
| So now they're going to try the gun thing. | ||
| I think that this is their next big push to let's find an issue that we can use people to go out and vote on. | ||
| And I think that now it's going to be the gun issue, or at least they're going to try it. | ||
| What about the leading cause of death amongst middle-aged men being fentanyl, which is all thanks to the open borders? | ||
| Or 25 U.S. veterans committing suicide a day. | ||
| Almost zero coverage. | ||
| So we're totally sad for what happened. | ||
| It's a terrible thing, but they know statistically they hype up mass shootings and hype up mass shootings in elementary schools and other areas. | ||
| Crazy people are going to go do it. | ||
| So you can kind of see the difference in the sort of base perspective that they're giving. | ||
| Owen is talking about the coverage that will happen after the fact. | ||
| Alex is saying that coverage of things caused it. | ||
| And there is a difference. | ||
| I don't know how meaningful it is, but whatever. | ||
| And you can see, though, I think almost maybe more importantly, these guys can't address this news story without creating a completely separate issue to use as a prop. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Owen can't talk about the shooting. | ||
| He has to cover the story by speculating that the Democrats are going to use guns as a campaign issue in the midterms. | ||
| This isn't an emergency report about the shooting. | ||
| It's an emergency report attempting to get out in front of whatever coverage other outlets end up doing about the shooting. | ||
| It's damage control more than anything. | ||
| And that's something you see again from Alex, where he and Owen are coming up with other things that have higher death tolls than this shooting in an attempt to minimize the horror of what had happened hours earlier. | ||
| I weirdly don't hear them bring up COVID death tolls here, but I guess that's just not the brand. | ||
| Also, there's plenty of media coverage of suicides among enlisted persons and fentanyl deaths. | ||
| Maybe there could be more investigation of the first one, but it's not something that people are just ignoring. | ||
| If you really want to do this shit, I can show you how pathetic this game is really easily. | ||
| If your interest is just in minimizing the number of deaths occurred, you could say that there were 21 people killed here, and yes, that's really sad, but between 2010 and 2020, an average of 39 people die each year in the United States while skiing, and you never hear the media talk about that. | ||
| Sure, it's a fact, but it's also not relevant to the matter at hand, and it's something you'd only bring up if you were actively trying to get your audience to be less horrified by the horrific shooting that had just happened. | ||
| That's a game they're playing. | ||
| Yeah, it's like, you know, you would only bring up in a conversation about the Holocaust how many people Stalin killed if you really wanted to let people know you were on Hitler's team. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, Alex... | ||
| Is clearly very interested in the pictures, the hoax pictures of the shooter. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| He will end up bringing this up constantly. | ||
| And in a coming up in a few minutes, I'll start putting him on screen. | ||
| The reported shooter, who's now been killed, versus they said he'd been captured, I know driving in, I sent you guys some of the images of him in dresses and all the rest of this stuff, but you're not going to see any of that in the corporate media. | ||
| Yeah, and I'm sure we'll find out more about this individual, and obviously the individual is extremely deranged. | ||
| Just how deranged? | ||
| We'll have to find out. | ||
| I think that Alex thinks that he's playing it safe by saying the reported shooter. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't think that helps here. | ||
| No. | ||
| You reported him as the shooter, not the reported shooter. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You are reporting that he is the shooter. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And you found these pictures prior to coming in. | ||
| You sent them to your staff. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Yeah, we know what's going on. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So Owen actually I think probably has some instincts to not dwell on the pictures that much. | ||
| Maybe he's aware of the Kit Daniels lawsuit. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| He wants to talk mostly about psych meds, but Alex is on the other side of this. | ||
| We'll never know the truth about all the pharmaceutical pills that this individual was on because the mainstream media is funded by Big Pharma, so you're not allowed to talk about that kind of... | ||
| And let's continue to go through those photos. | ||
| Let's enlarge those. | ||
| Let's put those on screen, please. | ||
| But you know, Alex, here's... | ||
| Before they take it down. | ||
| Let's talk about knee-jerk reaction here. | ||
| So interesting that Owen is complaining there about the media making knee-jerk reactions because in that 18-second clip, there were quite a few knee-jerk reactions being made by Alex and Owen. | ||
| The first is that Owen is asserting that we'll never know what drugs the shooter was on because the media is funded by Big Pharma so they don't talk about it. | ||
| In order to make this claim, Owen has to make the knee-jerk assumption that the shooter in fact was on pharmaceutical drugs, something that he has no evidence of and has decided must be true because that's his narrative about shootings. | ||
| He also asserted that the media covers that stuff up because of their funding sources, so even if it never comes out that the shooter was on drugs, Owen can still cling to that knee-jerk reaction because the lack of evidence coming out really only confirms the power of the cover-up. | ||
| Alex is making a further knee-jerk reaction where he's decided that this trans woman, who is the victim of a 4chan hoax, is the shooter because he's desperate to take advantage of every opportunity to demonize trans people. | ||
| He says, quote, let's continue to go through those photos, let's enlarge those, let's put those on screen, please, before they take it down. | ||
| These ideas that Alex and Owen are disseminating aren't just inaccurate. | ||
| What they're doing is creating a completely false reality for the audience to understand the shooting within. | ||
| It's really fucked up to see how so much of the behavior they're engaging in mirrors past coverage they've done that's gotten them sued. | ||
| And I suspect the reason for that is because they never needed to learn a lesson from those lawsuits. | ||
| They always knew what they were doing was wrong. | ||
| That's the premise that I'm starting to kind of feel. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is that, like, questioning whether a lesson has been learned is almost pointless. | ||
| Irrelevant. | ||
| Yeah, because they never needed to learn. | ||
| They know this is bad. | ||
| It's evil. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yes, they're bad people. | ||
| Who know they're bad, but they get a lot of money for it, so they are fine with it. | ||
| I want to start doing one thing, and I want to push back on you saying evil. | ||
| Only because I want to try and sort of wash that from our... | ||
| Remove the good evil morality continuum as a thought process. | ||
| I think some morality certainly can come into it, but... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I feel like I want to banish that from our thinking. | ||
| Even though some things could be descriptively thought of as evil, Alex has all this demon shit, and I just want to make sure... | ||
| Sick to science. | ||
| Not science. | ||
| No ethereal ideas about angels and demons. | ||
| Let me throw it out at you this way. | ||
| His behaviors, as well as theirs, are unilaterally destructive and hurtful. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Now you're getting close to Stefan Molyneux. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Universally preferable behaviors. | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| They just really like to hurt people. | ||
| It seems like it's profitable for them and they don't care. | ||
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| So Owen has a suggestion and a theory. | ||
| Nobody wants this. | ||
| I don't want kids to go to school with armed guards outside. | ||
| Believe me. | ||
| I don't want that. | ||
| But I'll tell you this. | ||
| I'd rather have schools with armed guards outside. | ||
| Than a situation like we had in Uvalde, Texas. | ||
| Well, and that's really it. | ||
| And just like Adam Lanza and Sandy Hook, it's another incel. | ||
| I mean, put those up from his Twitter before they take him down. | ||
| I mean, there's the dude to skirt. | ||
| There's the dude who he is. | ||
| And this is reportedly what's going on. | ||
| So again and again, we have deranged. | ||
| Make that full screen, please. | ||
| We have deranged, crazy people. | ||
| So that skirt identification is kind of important because of the main pictures that were going around, there's only one person whose pictures were involving a skirt or a dress. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And so you can tell what he's talking about. | ||
| Pretty clearly. | ||
| There is an Instagram picture of the actual shooter, and that is not someone in address. | ||
| Sabrina was the other trans person who was misidentified in the larger... | ||
| Sort of hoax plot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they weren't shown, like, there was just a face. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And a bottle holding up. | ||
| And so, like, this is very clearly talking about this Sam person. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, Sam has, there are two lawyers Sam needs to get in contact with. | ||
| I, yeah, I don't know if it's actionable, but it's definitely the intent of what Alex is doing. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| It's pointing to this hoax. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, Alex has a little bit of a baby philosophy lesson he wants to give, and this is just stupid. | ||
| We have deranged, crazy people, and that's the reason we have guns. | ||
| I mean, Owen right here is a dagger. | ||
| Military dagger. | ||
| And I obviously really love you and you're a great guy. | ||
| I'm not going to attack you with it. | ||
| But if I got up right now, and hypothetically, with this dagger... | ||
| That is in my hand, and I stabbed you with this dagger. | ||
| It is not the dagger's fault that this took place. | ||
| It is my fault, whether I used a car to run people over, or whether I used a baseball bat or gasoline to burn a building down. | ||
| It is not the fault of the dagger that could be in the hands of a good or bad person. | ||
| It is the fault of the psychopaths. | ||
| And the psychopaths are being bred by this system, and they're just pouring out like a cancer. | ||
| Well, and that's what it is. | ||
| It's the godless society. | ||
| It's the lack of morals in society. | ||
| It's the chemicals and the drugs forcing kids into depression. | ||
| It's the hopelessness of the new world order. | ||
| It's true enough that it's not the knife's fault that Owen got stabbed in that hypothetical, but this is logic for babies. | ||
| No one's blaming the gun in the sense that the gun itself has any moral consideration in the situation. | ||
| The argument is that with easy access to very powerful guns, the people who are inclined to hurt other people can do so much easier. | ||
| Alex is basically highlighting that by using the knife example here. | ||
| Generally speaking, someone with a knife is not going to be able to pull off a mass casualty event because people are more likely to be able to and be successful in intervening. | ||
| Further, people are less likely to kill random people with a knife because it requires proximity to the person, whereas shooting someone allows the killer to have a feeling of distance. | ||
| Like, imagine a knife gun. | ||
| We would probably not. | ||
| That would be just as big of a problem as a gun. | ||
| This is an idea that Alex has expressed enough that the audience just kind of nods and accepts it. | ||
| But it's kind of dumb. | ||
| This is deflection, not a meaningful argument. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, if he wants to make it a meaningful argument, if they want to make it a meaningful argument, then what they're really trying to grapple with is that a male-dominated society produces a shit-ton of violence against women, and that the overwhelming number of these shooters is driven almost ultimately, bottomly, like, deeply by misogyny. | ||
| Well... | ||
| That is a piece of information that probably isn't known about this shooter at the time that they're on air, but it is something that's known about a trend, let's say. | ||
| And yeah, I think that that is also, secondarily, along with guns, another issue, the idea of domestically violent men. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, if you wanted to tell me that we don't get gun control except men don't get to have guns, that probably would be better than gun control. | ||
| I think you're going to run into some trouble there, but I definitely think there's something to be said for more oversight of people who have had accusations about domestic violence and things like that, and limiting access to weapons. | ||
| There's a lot that could be done in terms of harm reduction from that front. | ||
| But, look, the Dems, they want your guns. | ||
| I can't believe that the Democrats are at all involved with anything that's going on. | ||
| We've all given up on all of them. | ||
| Who gives a fuck? | ||
| Well, you still need a bad guy if you're Alex and Owen. | ||
| Sure, I guess. | ||
| That's the other political party, so it's the best ghost to point to. | ||
| But anyway, the Democrats want your guns. | ||
| Our politicians, but let's call it what it is. | ||
| It's the Democrats. | ||
| It's the Democrats. | ||
| They're calling to take your guns. | ||
| Surely you're going to be hearing it for the next 48 hours or all week long. | ||
| They're going to call to take your firearms. | ||
| But, oh, the Democrats, when they feel threatened, what do they get? | ||
| They get armed security. | ||
| Nancy Pelosi calls for automatic gun turrets, machine gun turrets, outside of the Capitol because she feels threatened. | ||
| But, oh, at the schools. | ||
| Oh, at your house. | ||
| Oh, at your church. | ||
| Oh, at your business. | ||
| They don't want you to have a gun. | ||
| get the protection but they get the state funded taxpayer funded protection of firearms that they want to take away from us alex this is the same fucking tune these dudes play every time there's a shooting the dems are out to get your guns just you wait tomorrow there's a Yep. | ||
| entire worldviews on the insistence and fear that a gun grab is coming right around the corner and because it never happens they reap the rewards of their extremism pretending that it's in defense of liberty but in fact it's just a vice yep that story about nancy pelosi probably isn't true it was based on a comment made by by Ken Cuccinelli, who is a guy who Trump appointed to government positions illegally | ||
| He was also the subject of a scandal at the end of his time serving as a deputy in Trump's Department of Homeland Security. | ||
| Brian Murphy, who is the head of the DHS's intelligence branch, came out as a whistleblower saying that senior officials had instructed him to alter intelligence assessments. | ||
| From the New York Times, If you read the report Mr. Murphy filed, it's really outrageous. | ||
| Here's another thing that Cuccinelli was said to have done. | ||
| Quote, Mr. Murphy defended the work in his reports, | ||
| but Mr. Cuccinelli stated he wanted changes to the information outlining high levels of corruption, violence, and poor economic conditions in these three respective countries. | ||
| Mr. Cuccinelli expressed frustration with the intelligence reports and he accused unknown deep state intelligence analysts of compiling the intelligence information to undermine President Donald J. Trump's policy objectives with respect to asylum. | ||
| So, sure. | ||
| People who may be in favor of tighter gun regulation may also have armed security for themselves. | ||
| That's fair enough, but it doesn't mean anything. | ||
| Armed security guards are licensed, and it's not like armed security guards are just random people that someone knows who happens to have guns. | ||
| You don't get a posse together as your armed security. | ||
| No. | ||
| As with the stuff about Pelosi wanting machine guns, I'm not going to believe anything that Cuccinelli says without proof, but I guess that's enough for Owen. | ||
| A raving asshole who wants to outlaw being gay said this thing, so it must be true. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Also, I really don't care. | ||
| Ted Nugent doesn't allow guns at his concert, so fuck off. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| Fuck off. | ||
| You're done. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| Well, we'll get to Ted Nugent a little bit later. | ||
| See, that's what I know. | ||
| I know that it's coming up, and it's just a huge fuck you that you're gonna say that 20 minutes before... | ||
| Ah, fuck off. | ||
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Fucking... | |
| It's just... | ||
| Why doesn't reality get a say? | ||
| Not even, like, one say on the show. | ||
| Well, because it's InfoWars. | ||
| I know, but it should have one little moment. | ||
| There should be a little flashing light that's just going like, oh, surprise, this is bullshit. | ||
| It's just something. | ||
| Just some representation that reality is there. | ||
| Yes, absolutely! | ||
| He gets dragged into a back room where the truth is told. | ||
| There are four doors that close around. | ||
| Yes, something. | ||
| Yeah, that's not going to happen. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Anyway, the shooter was a crazy leftist. | ||
| Another deranged, crazy leftist that... | ||
| If you believe the official story, and they're changing every five minutes, just went and killed 21 people, 18 children at an elementary school. | ||
| What type of demon is being chased by the police and thinks, okay, I'll just turn into this parking lot and I'll go into a school and kill a bunch of small children. | ||
| I mean, this is all... | ||
| And again, was this happening a year ago, two years ago? | ||
| No. | ||
| It was a pause. | ||
| And now... | ||
| Suddenly, ladies and gentlemen, with 168 days from the midterms, just like we predicted, it's now happening. | ||
| I don't know what Alex even means by leftist anymore, so this kind of falls flat for me in terms of how you'd even respond to that. | ||
| We know that the shooter was a horrific misogynist and threatened to rape and murder a bunch of women over the social media app Yubo, but that's not behavior that's necessarily specific to the left or right. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| We know that he bought multiple guns and seems to really like guns a lot. | ||
| Gun ownership is certainly not specific to right-wing folks, but they are the ones who are more consistently preoccupied with guns. | ||
| From the available information, I don't know if it would be appropriate to try and nail down any political ideology that the shooter ascribed to, and it would be even further as a leap to attribute the shooting to any particular political motivation. | ||
| More information may come out on that front in time, but as it stands now, Alex is just making that up in order to lump the shooter in with his political enemies. | ||
| And honestly, it's probably mostly based on the hoax pictures of trans women that he got from 4chan. | ||
| That's probably what he's basing this on. | ||
| Also, you again have Alex implying that the shooting has something to do with the midterms. | ||
| In order for what he's saying to mean anything, you really have to believe that he's implying some kind of foreknowledge on the part of the Democrats or globalists, or even that they caused the shooting. | ||
| Alex is saying that there was a lull in mass shootings, and then now magically, just before the midterm, they're happening again, but even Owen has contradicted that narrative already, pointing out that there have been over 200 mass shootings already in 2022. | ||
| According to the Gun Violence Archive, there were 692 mass shootings in 2021 and 610 in 2020. | ||
| These numbers actually represent an increase over previous years, with 417 in 2019 and 336 in 2018. | ||
| And one of the things that is kind of complicating about this is the specific criteria of what constitutes a mass shooting. | ||
| And so you have a lot of these. | ||
| But in terms of things like the school shooting that happened in Uvalde, there are less of that kind of an event. | ||
| perhaps because schools were closed for a period. | ||
| So there is, you could argue, a dip in a sense. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure. | ||
| But in terms of gross numbers of mass shootings, there's not been. | ||
| There's actually been an increase. | ||
| Alex is just making up the idea that there haven't been mass shootings because he doesn't know or care, and acting like this is a thing that just mysteriously started happening again before the midterms allows him to get his audience to think it was probably fake without him having to take the responsibility of saying it. | ||
| Yeah, he's got a proven track record, so now he can just kind of point to, hey, you remember when I said all this stuff? | ||
| I'm pointing to saying that stuff, but I'm not saying it anymore because I might get sued. | ||
| Although I fucking am saying it. | ||
| Fuck it. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Nobody gives a shit. | ||
| Alex does make it abundantly clear that he believes that the shooting happened and the people died. | ||
| So we do have that. | ||
| But he is also playing fast and loose with, is this orchestrated, is it a false flag kind of stuff. | ||
| It's just that gross middle ground bullshit that means nothing. | ||
| No, it's not the Sandy Hook case, it's the Marcel Fontaine case. | ||
| So Alex, Owen is hosting with him, and his drum that he is beating is pills. | ||
| Psych meds, pharmaceuticals. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Well, you can go back into the 70s and you still had rifle classes at the average high school and you had high school students bringing guns to school. | ||
| They would bring their rifles and keep it in a locker. | ||
| That was normal behavior. | ||
| And it wasn't considered a threat. | ||
| And nobody was shooting anybody. | ||
| Because you didn't have a bunch of kids on pills. | ||
| And, Alex, here's my fear because. | ||
| Suicide mass murder pills. | ||
| And here's my fear because there seems to be mystery still about the whole grandma aspect and then the odd thing where he runs away, crashes his car, runs. | ||
| I've seen firsthand. | ||
| I've experienced this from friends of mine. | ||
| They'll start taking the pharmaceutical pills, and it doesn't even matter what kind. | ||
| I mean, it's Xanax, Ritalin, like there's all kinds of different, it's all the same stuff. | ||
| And I've witnessed in my own friends group before, where friends of mine who never were on the psychotropic drugs in high school, never exhibited any odd behavior, we got into college. | ||
| They started taking the psychotropic drugs because the doctors prescribed it to them in college. | ||
| It seems to be a trend. | ||
| It's like half of college students are on these pills now. | ||
| And immediately I noticed destructive behavior. | ||
| But what it is is that it's like a tumbling effect. | ||
| So it's like they'll do one thing destructive, and then they'll do another thing, and it's like there's... | ||
| It escalates. | ||
| And it just gets worse, and it gets worse, and it gets worse, and there's like a numbing effect, and it just gets worse and worse and worse. | ||
| So what we have is an evil problem. | ||
| I have articles today I covered where they're passing bills to kill babies a couple weeks after they're born. | ||
| And then we wonder why people do things like this. | ||
| Real quick, people aren't trying to kill babies after they're born, and even if they were, I don't see how that's connected to this shooting. | ||
| Is Alex trying to suggest that the shooter was motivated by an anger about abortion? | ||
| Or is this just a spiritual thing where because there's abortions in the United States, this evil has been visited upon us? | ||
| Yeah, it's just in the air. | ||
| Either way, that's stupid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And compare these numbers to other countries where abortion is available. | ||
| You'd think that there would be shootings all the time like there is here. | ||
| Well, that would be logical. | ||
| And then you'd have to say that countries where abortion is outright banned would probably be the most prosperous. | ||
| Zero mass shootings complete. | ||
| Victory in accordance with God's wishes, and so they are protected from all harm. | ||
| Like a rock. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So the argument Owen is trying to make here, based on his experience in college, is that the shooter was on these psychotropic drugs, which apparently have a tumbling effect, where you do one destructive thing and then you do another. | ||
| So the thinking here is that he shot his grandmother, and then the tumble was that he shot up this school. | ||
| That's a fun fantasy for Owen, but in reality, the shooter had sent messages on Facebook prior to leaving his house about his plan to shoot his grandmother and then shoot people at the school. | ||
| Also, there's literally no evidence that the shooter was on psych meds, and you get a pretty strong sense that he almost certainly was not when you consider his living situation and how unlikely that it would be that he would have access to mental health care. | ||
| Also, psych meds don't cause the behavior that Owen is describing. | ||
| He just had a friend who had some problems, and he's blaming medication for it instead of trying to look at the broader picture because he's dumb and he needs something to blame for this tragedy other than guns and domestically violent men. | ||
| And so this is the outcome that you get. | ||
| You demonize certain vulnerable communities. | ||
| You demonize the idea of appropriate mental health care. | ||
| And, I don't know, it seems dumb. | ||
| It seems bad. | ||
| It seems dangerous. | ||
| It's not a clever observation, but it does seem to be one that is impossible in America. | ||
| But if you don't deal with the root cause of a problem, then you're only going to create more problems and exacerbate the root cause of the problem. | ||
| True. | ||
| And that's what America is. | ||
| And Alex facilitates. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So there's one thing I agree with Alex about. | ||
| And it's meaningless. | ||
| But Alex does say that this shooting looks suspicious. | ||
| And based on some of the details about the police and their response, I agree. | ||
| Some stuff that's suspicious here. | ||
| I think the suspicions that Alex and I have might diverge a bit. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But I'm just going to give that as a meaningless tip of the cap. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| We agree that there's some suspicious variables. | ||
| They're fair. | ||
| The globalists have lost the gun control debate. | ||
| People understand that because there are psychopaths... | ||
| Like this is the reason we need guns, is the reason we need to protect ourselves. | ||
| And I'm sorry, big public schools, elementary schools for these demons are now targets. | ||
| Just like I said, you're going to see a white supremacist attack on a black grocery store because you can see the pre-programming, you can pick it up, you can see where it's going. | ||
| Whoever's behind it, how do we predict that? | ||
| And the answer is we've done our studying. | ||
| And this whole thing is very suspicious with the midterms coming up. | ||
| And all of them are on psychotropics. | ||
| You take the guy from the Parkland shooting, dozens of times said he was going to kill people because his last name was Cruz. | ||
| They couldn't arrest him because of a George Soros appointed district attorney or elected district attorney. | ||
| And we're not saying it didn't happen. | ||
| We're saying they let him do it. | ||
| And it's the same story over and over again. | ||
| One of the things that really sucks is that because of the police response and the way that the story shifted over the days immediately after the shooting. | ||
| Alex's consistent narrative about these things becomes a little bit easier for people to accept. | ||
| Whenever he's not feeling very ambitious and doesn't want to make too bold of a statement, Alex will always say that the police ordered a stand-down surrounding events like mass shootings. | ||
| He says that all the time, and he's always making it up, but because of the particular details of this police response, he may be able to convince some people that he's got the goods on this one. | ||
| Well, they did order a stand-down. | ||
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Not really in the way that Alex uses the term. | |
| Again, this will be more of an issue for future episodes. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| The reason that I bring it up now is because Alex isn't saying that. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| On the immediate day of when. | ||
| Ironically. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Considering that this would have been the one time. | ||
| Where the optics of it and the things surrounding it. | ||
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Totally. | |
| Make the argument of. | ||
| What Alex means by a stand-down. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| Well, I mean, maybe even more the colloquial meaning of a stand-down as opposed to Alex's specific meaning of a stand-down. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The idea that the cops ordered don't do anything, that is what we are talking about. | ||
| Alex is talking about the cops ordered we don't do anything because the globalists told us to so we can get as many kids dead so then we get gun control or whatever the fuck it is. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| And those are differences that we'll definitely get. | ||
| More into detail in a future episode. | ||
| All that being said, Alex is basically wrong about everything he's saying in that clip. | ||
| Shooters aren't always on psychotropic drugs. | ||
| There's no evidence that this shooter was, and while Nicholas Cruz had taken meds in the past, there's no evidence that he had for approximately a year before the shooting. | ||
| This is a standard talking point that gun fanatics use to derail conversations about shootings, but it's not based in reality. | ||
| The Broward County State Attorney is currently Harold Pryor, but he was elected in 2020. | ||
| Prior to that, the office was filled by Michael Satt. | ||
| The narrative that Alex is going off of is about how Soros is paying to get prosecutors and DAs put in office who will follow his instructions. | ||
| But with Sats, that doesn't make sense since he'd been in that office since 1976. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Alex also has a talking point about how they couldn't arrest Nicholas Cruz because he had a Hispanic last name, but this is just Alex being racist. | ||
| In reality, this is referring to the fact that in middle school, Cruz had vandalized a school bathroom, and instead of getting arrested, he was referred to an alternative disciplinary program called Promise. | ||
| The basic idea of it was to take students who do things that are bad but not super bad and make sure that their mistake doesn't bring them into the criminal justice system. | ||
| Cruz never completed that program, but the fact that he was sent to this instead of getting arrested for a misdemeanor vandalism charge has nothing to do with the shooting and has nothing to do with his last name. | ||
| This is just a racist story Alex has come up with to weave a compelling story for his audience who are always hungry for racist stories. | ||
| And that's one of the things that he throws around a lot. | ||
| It's bullshit. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Everything that he has surrounding... | ||
| Yeah, it's all bullshit, and it's self-aggrandizing, and it's contributing to the problem. | ||
| I mean, you're demonizing neuroatypical people and trying to keep them from getting medication. | ||
| You're demonizing just wide swaths of anybody who just doesn't want to... | ||
| Own shit tons of guns. | ||
| And then at the end of it, you're saying, like, we gotta keep guns. | ||
| And you're putting more cops in schools, increasing the risk of a shooting. | ||
| And you're creating an atmosphere where discussion of sensible gun regulations that aren't everybody's guns are gonna be taken, you can't buy a gun ever again. | ||
| kind of conversation is more likely to lead to outbreaks of violence. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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But because of the tenor of the conversation that happens on Alex's show. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| of this coverage, the prospect of making progress towards a better status quo where people can stay armed responsibly And we make it more difficult for people who have a propensity or are more likely to commit violent crimes with the guns. | ||
| I have a harder time getting it. | ||
| The conversation surrounding that will just end up with people being like, over my dead body. | ||
| Well, it's important to look at the way that they talk about this. | ||
| And if you think about the NRA, the NRA and its behaviors are identical to fucking Philip Morris or whatever when smoking was going on. | ||
| We know if you get us... | ||
| Well, and people who were actually opposed to some of those restrictions about smoking... | ||
| Once they actually came into effect, I think were for them. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| I remember when I lived in Columbia, Missouri, when they were having an indoor smoking ban. | ||
| And I remember I went to the bar I always used to go to, Eastside Tavern. | ||
| You could smoke inside. | ||
| It was great. | ||
| You'd get drunk. | ||
| You'd do karaoke. | ||
| You'd smoke. | ||
| And I remember being very hostile towards the idea of a smoking ban. | ||
| I have to go outside. | ||
| And then six months later... | ||
| I loved it. | ||
| I loved it. | ||
| It was so much better. | ||
| Oh my god, I can breathe inside this fucking bar. | ||
| Why was I smoking inside like an idiot? | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| And I couldn't see that possibility because I was holding on to my absolutism about being able to have a drink and a smoke. | ||
| I should be able to do... | ||
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Right. | |
| And I think that that's part of the reason why these industries may be worried about... | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Because people might realize, oh, we prefer it on the other side of this. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| And again, it's because... | ||
| They know they're killing people. | ||
| That's why they're so fucking angry and trying to stop any kind of adjustment. | ||
| It's because they know beyond a reasonable doubt they are murderers. | ||
| Perhaps. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So here's Owen saying some dumb shit. | ||
| Well, and it just becomes a, really, it becomes a media phenomenon where they just pick and choose which shootings that they want to cover and which ones they don't. | ||
| They could not cover this at all, and most people would have no idea it happened. | ||
| That's what happens with 99% of mass shootings in this country, is they don't cover it, and so nobody knows it happens. | ||
| But then they pick and choose the ones they want to cover, and obviously it becomes politicized. | ||
| But there's one solution. | ||
| I mean, there is only one solution to this, Alex, and that is you have to have armed security. | ||
| That's just the fact. | ||
| I don't like that. | ||
| You've got a big church. | ||
| Or you've got a college or a school. | ||
| There has to be armed security everywhere. | ||
| This is just next-level stupid. | ||
| Like, I wonder if Owen can think of any situation where there was a shooting in the U.S. where a bunch of elementary school kids were murdered and the media didn't cover it. | ||
| So we have just no idea that it happened. | ||
| I sincerely wonder what Owen thinks is going on in the world, if that's something he's going to say with a straight face on this show. | ||
| Many shootings, while obviously sad and something that should be taken seriously, are local issues. | ||
| They don't really concern people outside of a certain geographical region, so they don't often get much media attention from national outlets or even outside of their news market. | ||
| A lot of mass shootings don't result in deaths, and often there aren't even severe injuries, so that isn't really something that, like, CNN does. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And we grieve together. | ||
| And let's imagine the scenario that Owen's talking about. | ||
| Let's imagine that this shooting happened and all the major national media didn't even touch it. | ||
| Do you think for a second that wouldn't become the next Infowars conspiracy? | ||
| If the media covers a story, they're pushing an agenda. | ||
| If they don't cover the story, they're engaged in a cover-up. | ||
| There's no situation where a response to a mass shooting will ever satisfy people like Alex and Owen because they're not acting from a sincere position. | ||
| None of these things are actual arguments. | ||
| They're the performance of the normal deflection. | ||
| they use to bully people out of talking about guns in the aftermath of a tragedy. | ||
| And as for the point about armed security, that school district had all sorts of policies in place already, and they didn't do anything. | ||
| You had armed police there on the scene, and it didn't do anything to stop it. | ||
| In 2019, Governor Abbott signed a law that was passed to allow teachers to be armed and created measures to harden the security at schools. | ||
| This was after a mass shooting at Santa Fe High School in Houston left ten people dead, and there was pressure on Abbott to do something. | ||
| According to the Associated Press, they did all this stuff about hardening the schools because it was preferable to the alternative. | ||
| Quote, efforts to create so-called red flag laws to keep guns away from people deemed to be dangerous to themselves and others, and to toughen penalties for negligent home storage, were defeated. | ||
| These solutions offered by Owen and Alex aren't solutions. | ||
| They're just like the Texas government passing laws to hardened schools to avoid addressing gun-related issues. | ||
| Alex and Owen are creating their own fake solutions so they don't have to get into territory that directly implicates their own ideology. | ||
| It should not require superhuman intellect to look at an arms race and think escalation is only going to escalate problems. | ||
| So if your arms race is these kids are coming into schools with guns and killing people, so I'm going to escalate by putting armed security out front. | ||
| Well, now the kids who want to go murder people are going to have to find a way to deal with your armed security out front. | ||
| So then they do that. | ||
| So then what happens? | ||
| What do we arm next? | ||
| Why don't we give the fucking... | ||
| It's only going to escalate if you escalate things! | ||
| Didn't Alex see the end of Batman Begins? | ||
| I know! | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| I know he has. | ||
| He sees every movie. | ||
| It shouldn't be... | ||
| It's so fucking stupid. | ||
| It is. | ||
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It's stupid. | |
| It is. | ||
| All of their ideas are nonsensical because they're not meant to make sense. | ||
| No, absolutely not. | ||
| And here's another one. | ||
| But imagine if you had, you don't have to arm every teacher, but the teachers that want to get armed, take a class, have a concealed carry, make sure they're armed. | ||
| One time, one time a shooter tries to go into a school and gets his head blown off by an armed teacher, guess what? | ||
| School shootings are over with. | ||
| Because they know it's not a soft target anymore. | ||
| But still, school shootings are less than 100 people a year. | ||
| It's terrible. | ||
| We don't want to think of children being killed. | ||
| But with 350 million people, it is still... | ||
| A statistical anomaly and something they're hyping up. | ||
| I thought, like, last week we were mad at schools because the teachers were pushing CRT and trying to groom students, and now they should have guns. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Okay. | ||
| Yep, we want the teachers who teach CRT to be shot with guns, and we want the teachers who don't teach CRT to have the guns to shoot them with. | ||
| Does that make sense? | ||
| No, it's convoluted. | ||
| It really doesn't. | ||
| So Owen is really coming off as about the stupidest asshole imaginable on this show. | ||
| He really expects me to buy that once one teacher shoots someone trying to do a school shooting, the problem will solve itself because people will know that schools aren't soft targets. | ||
| I honestly can't stress how stupid this is enough. | ||
| Very dumb. | ||
| Oh, I mean, imagine if a shooter was killed in the act of a mass shooting. | ||
| Then all the future shooters would know, like, we're not going to survive this. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| For one thing, the other place that Alex and the crew always refer to as soft targets is churches. | ||
| So using Owen's logic, one would think that the minute someone trying to do a shooting at a church was confronted by good guys with guns, people would stop trying to shoot up churches since they knew it wouldn't be a soft target. | ||
| But this isn't the case. | ||
| Springs shooting in 2017 was stopped by Stephen Williford, an armed neighbor who came to help. | ||
| And yet, there have been church shootings since. | ||
| There was another one in Texas, even, in 2019, at the West Freeway Church of Christ, where an armed volunteer security guard killed a shooter mid-attack. | ||
| And yet, even after that, there have still been church shootings. | ||
| Just this month, there was a shooting at the Geneva Presbyterian Church in Laguna Woods, California. | ||
| The fact that aspiring church shooters have run into armed resistance apparently hasn't made the dramatic impact that Owen is pretending that it would, and shootings continue. | ||
| To imagine that a different dynamic would exist with schools is pure fantasy. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| Another thing to consider is that most shooters don't expect to survive their attacks. | ||
| Many of them kill themselves rather than allowing themselves to get caught, so I don't think they care that much if there's a good guy with a gun there who kills them after they've been able to do a bunch of damage, which is really their goal. | ||
| I thought these dudes were supposed to be against the prison planet and the whole militarizing of society, and here they are wanting to... | ||
| Seems fucking stupid. | ||
| If your argument is, remember, there's only 100 kids in a country of 350 million, then your argument should be, don't do anything. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Not, like, because you're... | ||
| Acceptable loss, right? | ||
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| I mean, that's the argument that he's making. | ||
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Yeah, absolutely. | |
| And we know that putting more police in schools leads to more kids being arrested for no fucking reason, leads to more trauma. | ||
| All of those active shooter drills only traumatize children, and they clearly, despite having been done so many places, especially Uvalde, don't fucking do anything. | ||
| So if your argument is it's nobody, then don't do anything because you're only traumatizing more children to do nothing for the children who are going to be murdered. | ||
| Right, and you create more of an environment that sort of feels carceral with metal detectors and cops all over a school. | ||
| At my partner's school, the day after, what happened? | ||
| Did they have a communal session? | ||
| Did everybody come together and grieve? | ||
| Did anybody even talk about their issues? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| What happened was every single kid walked through the door, was searched viciously, went through a metal detector, was questioned, was all of this shit, and then told to go about their day. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| See, they didn't take my proposal, which I pitched to Alex, actually, I should say. | ||
| And that is that every school... | ||
| Room is equipped with a mine. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| And the teacher teaches with their finger right over a remote button. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| At all times. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because that's the only way to be truly safe. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Well, and even then, you want to be able to contain the problem. | ||
| So you've got one mine in every classroom. | ||
| So if somebody goes into the classroom, sure, you have to sacrifice everybody in there. | ||
| And probably the people in the classroom above you, too. | ||
| Well, for sure. | ||
| But that's to keep everybody else safe. | ||
| So you've got to have that. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All dumb. | ||
| But Alex, what he's doing there, we're sort of... | ||
| He's minimizing using statistics, and that's really shitty. | ||
| And you might notice that he never does that when it comes to, let's say, crimes committed by immigrants. | ||
| He'll take a single incident like that and extrapolate that out into being the greatest ill in society and proof that we need closed, militarized borders. | ||
| But here, when a bunch of school kids are murdered, he implores you to put the numbers in perspective. | ||
| And it's because he's a callow piece of shit just trying to push his right-wing politics. | ||
| It has nothing to do... | ||
| With the reality of the statistics or anything like that. | ||
| He's an opportunistic fuck. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Yep. | ||
| These people are a fucking blight. | ||
| A fucking blight. | ||
| So, Alex, I don't know if you know this, but he moonlights as a FBI profiler. | ||
| Or at least that's the sense that I got from listening to this clip. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| This guy was Hispanic, supposedly, if it's even true, whatever's going on. | ||
| We'd be fools just to believe what we're being told. | ||
| I'm not saying it didn't happen or the way we're being told didn't happen because the story's changing all the time. | ||
| First, he was captured. | ||
| Now he's dead. | ||
| But imagine if it had been a white drug addict, shoot-em-up video game head. | ||
| And I'm not bashing anybody that likes shoot-em-up video games. | ||
| We're saying the profile is a guy that can't get a girlfriend or a guy that has a girlfriend break up with him who is generally a nerd, a trendy, who is on psychotropics. | ||
| Who's into Satanism, this guy fits the bill, that then somehow is satanically guided or spiritually guided to kill children. | ||
| I mean, why would you go and do this? | ||
| Why would you kill innocent children? | ||
| What is going on? | ||
| It's a selfishness. | ||
| It's a true demonic evil. | ||
| And the answer is not giving our guns up when the children of the Davos group and the children of the Democratic Party and the children of the abortion industry and the children of this whole church of Satanism we're dealing with No, but if someone created a fist gun... | ||
| You might want to, you know, and it killed people easily. | ||
| You might want to restrict that. | ||
| Also, just point of order, the children of the abortion industry, they were aborted. | ||
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They don't exist. | |
| They don't exist. | ||
| They're non-existent. | ||
| So, just a small correction. | ||
| I mean, it seems odd for him to struggle getting into the mind of somebody who wants to kill innocent children, considering every time he looks at his daughter, he says to her... | ||
| I am willing to accept that you will die in a mass shooting in order to make sure that I still get to hang on to all my guns in that closet over there. | ||
| So at the end of the day, your life is worth less than those guns over there. | ||
| Just in case you were wondering, every morning when we say hi, I love those guns more than you being alive. | ||
| I don't know if Alex's current child is homeschooled. | ||
| I know that his other kids went to public school. | ||
| But I wonder. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Philosophically, it should be. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I guess I don't really care. | ||
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Yeah, not really. | |
| I mean, like, it's his own personal business. | ||
| No, it's his choice. | ||
| I don't know why I went off on that. | ||
| It's just an interesting thought. | ||
| So Alex insists still that the pictures of the trans woman are the shooter, and Owen gets dumb. | ||
| Well, and there's a reason why, if you look up pharmaceutical, it's... | ||
| I mean, this guy's wearing a skirt. | ||
| Should we ban skirts because he wore a skirt? | ||
| It's the origins of pharmaceutical, pharmakia, which is just old Latin origins of evil. | ||
| And so that's why pharmaceutical companies have a snake in their logo because they know it's evil. | ||
| So they're feeding you. | ||
| Evil pills. | ||
| Owen's got this wrong. | ||
| Pharmaceutical is derived both from Latin and Greek, and the word just has to do with drugs. | ||
| One thing that's interesting, though, is when you look at the Greek root words, this is fascinating, because in Greek, you have the word pharmakios, which can be translated as a poisoner or a sorcerer. | ||
| But that is just because the word pharmakon is a bit of a catch-all, meaning things from drugs to poisons to spells and enchantments. | ||
| Like an apothecary kind of thing. | ||
| Yeah, the witch in the woods would have all this stuff. | ||
| The same dynamic exists within Latin, where the word pharmacia can mean both healing or harming medicines, or even a magical potion. | ||
| The belief is that this word is based on something that predates Greek, and there's a phenomenon among archaic languages where the words for poison and medicine are often the same, differentiated by... | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| So that's sort of a confusion that he's playing around. | ||
| Right, and then Hermes' snake is going to be... | ||
| There's a ton of words for evil in Latin and Greek, depending on what sort of evil you're talking about, but pharmakia is not one of them. | ||
| Also, snakes aren't the symbol of medicine because of some connection to evil. | ||
| This is referring to two symbols that are often used to denote medicine, the caduceus and the rod of Asclepius. | ||
| The first one is a snake coiled around a pole, and the other one is the two snakes entwined around a staff that has wings at the top. | ||
| One of the very obvious connections here is that Asclepius is the Greek god of healing, and that's the goal of medicine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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So that's that's a big part of it. | |
| Sure. | ||
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There are also two main reasons why the snake has become a symbol in the medical field. | |
| The first is that in the book of Numbers, after the people lose their faith in the wilderness and start speaking out against God and Moses, God sends fire snakes to bite people. | ||
| When the people realize the error of their ways and beg Moses for help here, I'm going to read to you from Numbers 21, verses 22. Go for it. | ||
| Quote. | ||
| Therefore the people came to Moses and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the Lord and against thee. | ||
| Pray unto the Lord that he take away the serpents from us. | ||
| And Moses prayed for the people. | ||
| And the Lord said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent and set it upon a pole, and it shall come to pass that everyone that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live. | ||
| There's a biblical root to one of the primary reasons that the snake is associated with the symbology for medicine. | ||
| The other reason is the metaphor of a snake shedding its skin and going from old and weary to young and new again, which is analogous to the doctor's goal of healing people. | ||
| Anyway, Owen has just made up a bunch of dumb shit, or maybe he read it on a dumb blog, and he's parroting it to his audience, pretending that it means anything, and using it to demonize psych meds, which he insists were to blame for the shooting, even though he has actually no idea if they are. | ||
| He's dumb and a piece of shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Moses' God was a lot more metal. | ||
| Fiery snake on a stick? | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Moses' God was really fucking metal. | ||
| Jesus' God was pretty... | ||
| He was kind of Christian Rocky, but Moses' God was fucking metal. | ||
| There's a strength in silence and poise and not using fire snakes. | ||
| Yeah, I always just love it when they do meme etymology. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| It's just, what are you guys talking about? | ||
| But it sounds smart to people who don't know anything. | ||
| That's why the memes work. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they work on Owen. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And then Owen spouts them to other people they would work on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So anyway, Alex still believes these pictures are real. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| The big question is, what are we going to do now, Owen? | ||
| That magically there's a shooting last week in Buffalo by a white supremacist. | ||
| And magically now there's this. | ||
| And by the way, the crew's really smart. | ||
| They catch things I don't catch. | ||
| You guys were zooming in on the stockings the guy was wearing or was it the picture behind him? | ||
| So in my ear. | ||
| So I'm missing it. | ||
| You were showing the incel reported shooter and you were zooming in on his legs. | ||
| Was it the stockings we were looking at or? | ||
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Oh. | |
| It looks like... | ||
| Oh, that's a... | ||
| Wow, I'm dumb. | ||
| Look, there's like a handprint. | ||
| Oh, no, that is the hand. | ||
| No, it's a Photoshop. | ||
| That could easily be... | ||
| Look, that could be anything. | ||
| His leg could be lifted up. | ||
| I have no idea what they're talking about. | ||
| But because they're talking about stockings and legs, you know which picture that they're referencing. | ||
| So again, we have this very consistent thread that is talking about this specific hoax. | ||
| This target of a hoax. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, I think you could pretty clearly demonstrate that based on what they're talking about. | ||
| Wouldn't be too hard. | ||
| So, Alex is really dancing around, like, whether this is staged or not. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And that's because he's a piece of shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Owen, look, I don't want to say this was staged provocateur, but we have specifically said, with two years of hardly any mass shootings, That with all the pre-programming, that mass shootings are coming, and terrorists are going to attack, and we've got to take the guns. | ||
| And then I'm like, well, I would predict a lot of mass shootings right before the election, and then, like, clockwork is happening. | ||
| You know, to me, it's just very opportunistic what's happening. | ||
| But that's the thing, Alex. | ||
| There have been mass shootings. | ||
| Guys, plug into a Google search right now, 198 mass shootings. | ||
| No, you're right. | ||
| But it wasn't at schools, and it wasn't black folks. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| So, yeah. | ||
| This is convoluted, and the point that Alex is trying to drive at is, I don't want to say this was staged, but come on, guys. | ||
| I really want to say this is staged. | ||
| I feel like I'm not allowed to say that it's staged anymore, and I really do want to say that, so I'm going to try and get you to kind of give me some cover to say that I can speculate about it, so whenever people are like... | ||
| You claimed that it was fate. | ||
| I can actually say we were just talking about it. | ||
| Right, and that's why Alex ends up taking a bunch of calls. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But also, there's this sense of like... | ||
| People will think I went soft if I take it seriously. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| But also I run some very serious risks if I go too far in the other direction. | ||
| I think I might be able to outlast this lawsuit until we get full fascism in America and then they won't be able to stop me. | ||
| And Owen has to put the brakes on him with being like, there were a bunch of mass shootings. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| We got another three years before full fascism and you're probably going to lose that lawsuit. | ||
| So Owen goes on to his thought there that there have been mass shootings, and he has them pull up the number. | ||
| And it's just when they decide to cover it. | ||
| I mean, that's all it is. | ||
| When do they decide to cover it? | ||
| I guess you're right, Owen. | ||
| There have actually been the regular couple hundred a year. | ||
| I think 18 children are dead. | ||
| I think three adults are dead. | ||
| And when this happened today, when I got off here and saw you covering, I said, I bet it's an incel. | ||
| I bet it's a dude to dress. | ||
| And like when Dave Chappelle said, I just got attacked by a tranny. | ||
| And it was. | ||
| And I'm not trying to be mean to some people that are like that, but man, statistically, these people have a higher percentage of whacked out folks. | ||
| You can kind of tell that Alex has a little bit of the burpees there, and he's communicating weird. | ||
| That's some of the... | ||
| It's hard to exactly put into words, but listening to him talk as much as I do, this is a weird tone he has. | ||
| Yeah, he had a happy hour after work. | ||
| Could be, or he could just be tired, but I don't know. | ||
| Again, I have no interest in pretending that Owen sincerely doesn't understand why the media would cover the Buffalo and Uvalde shootings more than, say, I don't know, the March 7th shooting in Knoxville, Tennessee, where four people were injured and no one was killed. | ||
| It's a false premise Owen is using, and he knows damn well the bullshit he's peddling. | ||
| Now, I was interested in the notion that he put forth that these mass shootings are all in Democrat-controlled inner cities. | ||
| I wondered if that was true, so I decided to analyze the data of all the mass shootings this year and see if what Owen... | ||
| Here's what I found. | ||
| The first thing I learned is that looking at the numbers like this is stupid. | ||
| This is in no way a red state-blue state thing, nor is it an inner-city rural area issue. | ||
| There are mass shootings in smaller cities, and there are mass shootings in urban centers. | ||
| I'm not positive this means anything, but since I took the time to compile this, here are the numbers. | ||
| Defining red and blue states by their governor, for red states you have 102 mass shootings total, with 124 fatalities and 455 injuries. | ||
| For blue states you have 14 total mass shootings with 123 fatalities and 483 injuries. | ||
| Overall, it's pretty close. | ||
| So, like I said, I don't know if it means anything. | ||
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It doesn't. | |
| That being said, Texas was the leader in every category, with only California even coming close. | ||
| That might mean something. | ||
| Anyway, I guess the point is that I was curious about if what Owen was saying meant anything, and after consulting the numbers, I've come to the strong conclusion that he's talking out of his ass, which I should have just assumed. | ||
| Sometimes you're just like, let me make a spreadsheet here. | ||
| Yeah, it's so fucked up how far they've won that they don't even have to remember hundreds and hundreds of mass shootings. | ||
| True. | ||
| Like, they don't even have to think about it. | ||
| They're surprised that there are so many mass shootings. | ||
| When a large one like this happens, Alex has to be reminded. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| He has to be reminded that he's making shit up about there not being mass shootings. | ||
| Right, and it's just like, man, if you guys weren't playing full court press since all of the mass shootings, then... | ||
| Ugh, man. | ||
| So look, man, Alex gets back to a bit of narcissism while Owen laments the society in decay. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| If metal detectors and armed police would protect these schools, I'd be for it. | ||
| But the real thing to do is to arm the teachers and the principals and others. | ||
| So when a mass murderer like this comes in there who's demonically of the Democratic Party wanting to kill children, they're obsessed with raping them or killing them, destroying their innocence. | ||
| There's people stopping. | ||
| We have a demon problem. | ||
| We have a satanic collapse problem the Bible predicted. | ||
| And the answer is not us rolling over, but us saying, okay, you want to try to come after me? | ||
| You want to try to kill me? | ||
| You want to try to enslave me? | ||
| I am going to defend myself. | ||
| Well, that's the story. | ||
| I mean, we have lost our moral compass. | ||
| This is just yet another sign of a decaying civilization is what this is. | ||
| Children out killing children. | ||
| You're in a decaying civilization. | ||
| And of course, where does someone think, OK, the cops are chasing me. | ||
| I'm going to go kill elementary students. | ||
| Sandy Hook, Sandy Hook, Sandy Hook. | ||
| Everything I cover barely ever covered Sandy Hook. | ||
| Alex Jones, Sandy Hook, Sandy Hook. | ||
| Kill kids. | ||
| Kill kids. | ||
| Elementary kill kids. | ||
| They're introducing to crazy people's minds. | ||
| Go to elementary schools. | ||
| Kill kids. | ||
| It's so obvious what they're doing. | ||
| This isn't about you, prick. | ||
| Like, I don't know how to say it more simply. | ||
| It's disgusting, but that word doesn't seem right. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Claiming the media killed all of those children is pretty disgusting. | ||
| But it's not big enough. | ||
| The part about Alex thinking that his persecution caused this is... | ||
| If they hadn't have criticized me, then these shootings would never happen. | ||
| I mean, I think if I was someone in his life, I'd probably hospitalize him for saying something like that. | ||
| That's so fucked up. | ||
| Multiple times on air. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| It's indicative of... | ||
| Like a really troubling thought pattern. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, literally you can't participate in society if that's how you think. | ||
| Well, you have to assume that literally everything is about you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So society can only touch you. | ||
| You can't ever participate. | ||
| You're never on the team society. | ||
| And you can only really understand everything that goes on in the world as an extension of you. | ||
| And that's dangerous. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I mean, it's impossible to argue that he doesn't have a very severe mental faculty issue. | ||
| At least a dangerous narcissistic streak. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So anyway, they decided they're going to take a break to play some special reports. | ||
| Great. | ||
| But first, we're going to air a couple special reports. | ||
| We're going to come back with Sean, Steve, Mark, Don, and others. | ||
| But first off, Owen, would you like to lead us in a prayer for these dead children and these dead teachers and the wounded? | ||
| Would you like me to do it? | ||
| Sure, Alex. | ||
| Dear God, please be with the families that are suffering tonight in Uvalde, Texas, and that community. | ||
| Please, God, protect that community from the satanic agenda that is surrounding it right now. | ||
| That's a little bit of a political prayer, I think. | ||
| I think this is a little gross. | ||
| Man, Moses' God really would have blown him. | ||
| Fucking sky high. | ||
| Fire snakes in the AdWords studio. | ||
| The idea of Owen leading a prayer if Moses' God was real, oh, God, he would explode! | ||
| So Owen wraps up his prayer here. | ||
| And protect this nation as we are going into the arms of Satan. | ||
| Lord, please protect this nation. | ||
| In Jesus' name I pray. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| All right, you're absolutely right. | ||
| And protect our little children, because these demons... | ||
| are coming for our children at every level and they have pre-programmed psychos just like this so when the chips are down they go to kill children to make their final deal with satan like any satanist would do and the answer is weapons and being informed and watchful to defend ourselves. | ||
| That's a good response to a prayer. | ||
| The answer is weapons! | ||
| You know, this reminds me of another Bible story. | ||
| This reminds me, I think it was Elijah, whenever God and Baal were having a whole argument, right? | ||
| God and Baal were like, God's like, I don't like Baal. | ||
| So the priests of Baal tried to light this thing on fire using the power of Baal. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then Elijah tried to light this thing on fire using the power of God. | ||
| So Elisha does it, and the ball guys didn't. | ||
| And then God killed all the ball guys too, just for fun. | ||
| You know, just for funsy. | ||
| That kind of thing. | ||
| Like, that would be... | ||
| Here's what we'd do, okay? | ||
| Owen can pray, right? | ||
| And then I get to enact some form of assault weapons ban. | ||
| And we'll see which one is more effective. | ||
| Well, that's, I mean, empirically, I think that would be really difficult to make. | ||
| I think we can compare. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Yeah, I'm sure. | ||
| You know, I was thinking you were going to just make up a Bible story. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| And I was just thinking that if you ever want to make up a Bible story, you should say that it was Habakkuk. | ||
| Because no one remembers what Habakkuk did. | ||
| Uh, Habakkuk. | ||
| What did he do? | ||
| You have no idea. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| So they do their special report, and then they come back, and they take some calls, and this guy seems like his tone is not good. | ||
| Let's start with Sean in Nebraska with, I think, a couple callers on this issue. | ||
| It's the biggest cover-up when it comes to these shootings, and that's the pharmaceutical drug involvement. | ||
| Every time one of these incels is on a bunch of pharmaceuticals and psychotropics. | ||
| Go ahead, Sean. | ||
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How are you guys doing tonight? | |
| That dude's tone is a bit inappropriate. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And the call he's making is to build the conspiracy about the cover-up of something he has no idea about. | ||
| That's kind of the level of bullshit workshopping that's so important that they had to do this special episode. | ||
| It's entirely pointless, except to drive into the audience's heads that no matter what they hear, this person was on psych meds, the psych meds made him commit murder, and there's a cover-up about whether or not he was on those meds. | ||
| If the media says he wasn't on meds, that means he was. | ||
| And if they say he was, Also, | ||
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on the buyback program... | |
| People need to understand that on the buyback program for the guns, there's no questions asked. | ||
| So when you have buyback programs in towns, gun thefts go through the roof. | ||
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Because there's no questions asked. | |
| So I just want to make a point of that. | ||
| This guy's a complete idiot. | ||
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What? | |
| When they say no questions asked, it means that if you have a gun you're not legally allowed to own in a certain state, you won't get in trouble for bringing it to a buyback. | ||
| It doesn't mean they just accept whatever gun from anybody. | ||
| Every state has the authority to run these programs however they choose, but typically how they do it is that when a gun is turned in, they run the serial number of it through the database of reported stolen guns. | ||
| If that number matches a stolen gun, they can't destroy it without contacting the legal owner and getting their permission. | ||
| In some states, you'll also get arrested if you're the person who's trying to turn in a stolen gun. | ||
| This guy says he lives in Nebraska, where it's a Class 2A felony to attempt to dispose of a stolen firearm, so I'm guessing he's just seen some dumb memes and decided that there are people out there stealing everyone's guns so they can sell them to the government. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Nonsense. | ||
| That's... | ||
| that... | ||
| nope. | ||
| Flawless logic right there. | ||
| Because they don't ask questions, you steal guns. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Duh. | ||
| So then you steal guns, and then you give them to the buyback. | ||
| Because they don't ask questions. | ||
| And also, I would think that stealing guns would be something that Alex thinks can't happen, because you would be targeting someone who you know is armed. | ||
| I mean, you would think. | ||
| Wouldn't the possession of the gun stop the person from wanting to steal the gun from you? | ||
| Here is your problem with the good guy with the gun scenario. | ||
| If the bad guy can steal your guns easily. | ||
| That's an issue. | ||
| A good guy can be disarmed if they can get their guns stolen very quickly. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it's not good. | ||
| And if it's someone who is able to steal your guns just based on a desire to sell them back to the government. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Imagine if they wanted to do harm with them. | ||
| So stupid. | ||
| Insane. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But I mean, it makes sense if you're just like... | ||
| It's the kind of thinking that should be isolated to people in a bong circle. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, sitting around talking about like... | ||
| Oh man, I bet... | ||
| I bet if they didn't ask questions, that's a way to make some extra cash, man. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| So you could make a little bit of extra cash, right? | ||
| Because they don't ask questions. | ||
| They don't know where the guns came from. | ||
| Fuck it, we could steal from Walmart. | ||
| They wouldn't even fucking know, man. | ||
| It's like people coming up with a bad caper. | ||
| Yeah, 100%. | ||
| This is how we're going to get rich. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Who's our grease man? | ||
| All right. | ||
| Man, I was thinking about Bottle Rocket the other day, and that just triggered my mind on it again. | ||
| A bad caper. | ||
| That is a bad caper. | ||
| Oh, God, though. | ||
| That's a pretty good movie. | ||
| Oh, Future Man. | ||
| He's so cool. | ||
| Future Man. | ||
| There's a character named Future Man. | ||
| Yeah, it's a good movie. | ||
| So they get another call, and this person has worked out a storyline about the idea that the shooter was trans. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Mark in Arizona. | ||
| Let's talk about Mike Adams. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
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Yeah, Mike Adams just posted on NaturalNews.com that the kid was a transsexual. | |
| And I think we should... | ||
| Yeah, we have the photos. | ||
| We'll put them on screen. | ||
| Yeah, he killed seven, eight, and nine-year-olds. | ||
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Maybe that's where he went to elementary school. | |
| And he's just going back to where it all began. | ||
| And so he was groomed there and then set up and transitioned through high school. | ||
| And it drove him crazy. | ||
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So he saw his grandma and then went back to the start. | |
| Elaborate on that. | ||
| Alex is eating. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, so that's fucked up. | ||
| This guy's just created a fun story for himself, a narrative arc based on hoax pictures and just what he assumes might have happened to somebody in elementary school. | ||
| This is fucked up. | ||
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Yep. | |
| This kind of stuff is just not even... | ||
| It's not even unproductive. | ||
| It's not even counterproductive. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's something else. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| I mean, it's astonishing. | ||
| Like, I really don't understand this person. | ||
| On a fundamental level, I listen to somebody say that, and I do not know where I belong anymore. | ||
| I kind of understand what's going on in his head. | ||
| Because he's somebody who believes this bullshit, and it's someone trying to make sense of the information that's being presented to him as truth. | ||
| So he's come up with this explanation in his head. | ||
| And I can understand that. | ||
| What I have a difficult time understanding is... | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's any merit in calling into a national radio show the night of a shooting to share this theory as if it means anything. | ||
| I understand the way that our brains work. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That there's a lot of times you put pieces of information together to try and create a story to help you understand something. | ||
| You create a pattern where maybe there necessarily isn't one. | ||
| I get that. | ||
| And the pieces of information that he has are bad and wrong, so the story that he's come up with is bad and wrong. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| The taking action to share it is weird. | ||
| That part I don't understand at all. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, if I was... | ||
| Obviously, I've spent many, many a day concocting some sort of narrative to try and make some conspiracy theory make sense. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know, like this. | ||
| So I understand him coming up with this story, a plausible enough sounding drawing all of this bullshit into a more grounded place of like... | ||
| Human pathos. | ||
| The weirdest part is this guy is tacitly admitting that trans people are discriminated against on a constant level. | ||
| I don't even know! | ||
| That's not fair. | ||
| I don't even know! | ||
| We aren't playing the rest of his call, but he's talking more about the idea that teachers made him trans. | ||
| Oh my, fuck me. | ||
| Then fuck off. | ||
| You're giving him way too much credit. | ||
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
| I am giving him way too much credit. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| So, yeah. | ||
| Anyway, this is a useless use of time for Alex. | ||
| At least he's eating, so I guess it's useful for him. | ||
| So Alex does keep dancing around the idea of false flaggery. | ||
| The big questions are, how many false flags will leftists themselves carry out? | ||
| They catch leftists every day. | ||
| Staging racial attacks on synagogues, black churches, you name it. | ||
| Who are liberals to demonize America. | ||
| Well, the next step would be just go out and kill people. | ||
| And then you can blame America. | ||
| Sounds a little fucked up. | ||
| But also, they don't catch people doing that every day. | ||
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Nope. | |
| False flagging synagogues. | ||
| I mean, it is fucked up that currently he's trying to demonize groups of people. | ||
| I'm shocked that he didn't bring up Jesse Smollett. | ||
| I am. | ||
| I am a little shocked, too. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's his go-to. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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Hmm. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| So this next call is fun, I guess. | ||
| Alex Jones, my black brother, can't get no judges in the court, and now you see what it's like. | ||
| But we're all pulling for you. | ||
| See, that's funny because this guy's trying to express solidarity with Alex, but the way he's doing it actually invalidates a giant argument Alex yells about all the time. | ||
| According to Alex, black people should have no problem getting justice in the courts because there's no such thing as systemic racism. | ||
| Why, this caller sounds like he's trying to push CRT. | ||
| It's hard to believe that Alex doesn't shout him down and correct him the way he would if some left-leaning person were to try to tell him that black people are treated unfairly in the justice system. | ||
| It does seem Alex should say, excuse me, you've never had any trouble with the justice system because the entire globalist sphere is angled towards making sure you get away with crimes as much as possible. | ||
| So you can't express solidarity with me. | ||
| As a white person, I'm the only one persecuted by the American justice system, sir. | ||
| It's strange it doesn't respond that way. | ||
| It does seem odd. | ||
| That would be a more appropriate response. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So Ted Nugent shows up. | ||
| Bad news. | ||
| That is an appropriate response. | ||
| Hey, how you doing, Ted? | ||
| When I speak, you know, Alex, we've spent time together. | ||
| I don't have hunches and I eliminate presumptions in my life. | ||
| I look into evidence and I embrace the evidence that I am exposed to. | ||
| And I just cannot overstate the heartbreak. | ||
| And I know you know that, but I don't think we should pivot off the pain and suffering right now to allow politics to enter this for as long as we possibly can till we get all the answers. | ||
| If Nugent isn't into hunches and loves information, he should check in with his nutty QAnon wife. | ||
| Also, a little late to talk Alex off the ledge of getting political. | ||
| Nugent should have come on at the beginning of the show. | ||
| Maybe they would have stopped Alex from saying a bunch of fake shit and misidentifying another mass shooter. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Also, Ted Nugent is bringing up, like, we should, you know, feel the pain and all this. | ||
| Like, that hasn't been a part of this broadcast at all. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| That recognizing the pain and really, like, not pivoting off it is, like, if it wasn't Ted Nugent saying it, I think I'd probably be okay with the sentiment. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But it has nothing to do with what this Infowars coverage has been. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| This has been in the face. | ||
| Of the pain. | ||
| This has been an affront to it. | ||
| Owen said a prayer that, I mean, did it mention the families? | ||
| Yeah, a little bit. | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I didn't play the entire prayer, but yeah, it was a little bit. | ||
| But it also had to do with the satanic forces. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And it was clearly like code for Democrats and gun control. | ||
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100%. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So yeah, this has been quite political. | ||
| And uh-oh, a couple minutes, not even minutes, a couple, maybe 30 seconds later, Ted Nugent gets political. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| I'm on with you right now, Alex. | ||
| I am not only dedicated and passionate and emotional about representing the heartbeat of brokenhearted Americans, especially in New Valley, Texas, but I'm also on with you right now, Alex, while one of the worst human beings that has ever slithered the earth is on television right now, a man who thinks he's the president of the United States, a horrible, evil, heartless, soulless, treasonous man, | ||
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Yeah, let's not get political. | |
| I think that you're mere hours after someone murdered elementary school students, and you're going out of your way to say that Joe Biden is one of the worst people who has ever existed. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| It's a little bit much. | ||
| Immediately after saying you represent the heart of everyone grieving over this tragedy. | ||
| The broken heart of middle America. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I assume that immediately following this tragedy, they were like, oh, Biden is a snake. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Also, by the way, after that last clip, I brought up his wife being into QAnon, and that felt like maybe it seemed like a cheap shot. | ||
| No. | ||
| But his wife does come up later. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She appears later, so... | ||
| There we go. | ||
| It's in there. | ||
| It's not out of nowhere. | ||
| You're not just pulling it from the... | ||
| Yeah, I gotcha. | ||
| So, Ted, this guy, man, loves evidence of things. | ||
| He's rigorous. | ||
| And also loves Dinesh D'Souza. | ||
| Well, of course, I'm a huge supporter and believer in evidence. | ||
| evidence that I bet and I scrutinize and I research with all my heart and soul. | ||
| And Dinesh D'Souza has documented that in his documentary 2000 Mules, that the 2020 election was fraudulent. | ||
| Dead people by the millions voted, that illegal people voted, that that fraud and criminal corruption took place in the 2020 election and that Joe Biden did not win the 2020 election legally. | ||
| Case closed. | ||
| I've come to realize this. | ||
| I'm into evidence and I do my research. | ||
| That isn't something that these people say sincerely, even. | ||
| Like, they don't even mean it. | ||
| It's not meant to be taken seriously because it's not an actual statement of what they practice as much as it's a statement of how they want to be seen. | ||
| It's a catchphrase, basically. | ||
| I mean, it's them saying I'm not a racist butt, you know? | ||
| Somewhat, yeah. | ||
| I mean, Ted Nugent doesn't research shit. | ||
| He doesn't have any evidence of anything, but he wants that to be his brand and how he's presented to the wider world of right-wing shitheads. | ||
| He doesn't have any evidence of anything, and 2000 Mules doesn't prove any of that shit. | ||
| This is what I would describe as pathetic virtue signaling being done by idiots who want to be... | ||
| They're desperate to be taken seriously as smart people, but they don't want to do anything to merit that. | ||
| It's hard to be smart. | ||
| You have to work at it. | ||
| People think that you're just smart. | ||
| You don't have to read books or learn things or continuously educate yourself, ever-ending, never-stopping. | ||
| It's a practice. | ||
| Not being smart as a practice, but being interested in evidence and the things that you're talking about being grounded is something that you have to do. | ||
| It's not something that you are. | ||
| And the way that Nugent and these people like him... | ||
| No, this is a characteristic of me. | ||
| And that's, I think, fraudulent, but I also think that it's never meant to be really serious. | ||
| No. | ||
| I mean, it is nice to, though, have it as an inherent characteristic if you are on this shit, because even when you don't do any research... | ||
| You can always be like, no, you know me. | ||
| I do my research. | ||
| It's an inherent characteristic that I've established, part of my backstory. | ||
| So you've got that to rely on even when you're full of shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which is always. | ||
| It's annoying. | ||
| It is very annoying. | ||
| So anyway, Ted Nugent's really excited because moderate Democrats. | ||
| I really don't. | ||
| I'm struggling. | ||
| Ted Nugent understands that this is immediately following. | ||
| And he doesn't want to get political. | ||
| But moderate Democrats. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I don't know what moderate Democrats are hanging out with Ted fucking Nugent. | ||
| Great. | ||
| But moderate Democrats are starting to realize that Democrats are evil. | ||
| I'm telling you that this is so ugly that heretofore so-called moderate Democrats, they're finally getting their head out of their ass and they're going, wait a minute. | ||
| If you don't have secure borders, you're not even a country. | ||
| When you facilitate the invasion of fentanyl and methamphetamine, when you reward coyotes... | ||
| Trafficking children for sex and profit, when you see it wide open, those that thought they had a hope for a Democrat lifestyle, they're finally going, my God, the current Democrats in the United States of America, they are pure evil. | ||
| They are treasonous in every act, word, and deed. | ||
| No, you're right. | ||
| I mean, my wife plays tennis all the time, has all these liberal friends. | ||
| They all have woken up. | ||
| They're all talking about Donald Trump and Ted Nugent, literally. | ||
| And so, no matter how many fraudulent votes they've got, they're waking up their very base that this is a suicide pact they're part of. | ||
| This is big news. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Alex's wife's tennis partner has become pilled. | ||
| I can't believe Alex's wife's affluent tennis partner friends would eventually turn against populist ideologies like, you know, so crazy. | ||
| I just like these characters that don't exist on the show, and probably don't exist in the real world, but exist as figments of Alex's imagination. | ||
| I really do enjoy tracking them. | ||
| Whenever Alex's wife's tennis partners come up... | ||
| They've got a lot to say. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| There's a lot of intel that comes up. | ||
| They're a bit like a Greek chorus. | ||
| They're there in the background, and they contribute when necessary. | ||
| And apparently Alex is using them to do exit polling, figuring out the pulse of the country by way of tennis partners. | ||
| So Ted Nugent has something to promote, but he's doing it in a way that I would describe as dishonest. | ||
| We know conservatives that aren't even registered to vote. | ||
| We have to fix them. | ||
| We have to score them. | ||
| I don't care what you have to do, but if you believe in God, family, country, law and order, individual freedoms, Constitution, Bill of Rights, you've got to get everybody in your life to vote those core values. | ||
| We started HunterNation.org. | ||
| Please, my friends, join me at HunterNation.org. | ||
| It's the Clearinghouse, Alex. | ||
| For conservatives to get everybody in their life who believes in all the good things that make the greatest quality of life in the history of humanity here in the United States of America, particularly here in Texas. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| I remember when these guys were saying Democrats doing, like, get-out-the-vote efforts and registration drives were evil, and they were just trying to steal an election by signing up fake people. | ||
| Now Ted is yelling about getting people registered? | ||
| Seems fishy. | ||
| I went to Hunter Nation, and it's essentially a subscription website Ted runs, where there's some dumb content like blogs and stuff, but it's mostly just about him making money. | ||
| He also apparently does a show there where he tells a co-host about things he's hunted, called The Nightly. | ||
| It's dumb. | ||
| I guess things have dried up since he doesn't have those TV shows anymore and his music sucks so you gotta do what you gotta do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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On the site, also, you can buy raffle tickets to go hunting with Ted or, if you like, you can try to win a chance to hunt a bear in Idaho. | |
| Great stuff. | ||
| Great stuff. | ||
| That's just great. | ||
| One of their past dream hunts was go, uh, go shooting with, Trump's son. | ||
| There's a tell here that Ted is obscuring, and that's that there's another website called Hunt the Vote, which is where the whole registration drive is. | ||
| Hunter Nation is Ted's website where there's a bunch of his dumb bullshit that he sells on it. | ||
| If he were actually focused on the registration stuff as opposed to advertising his own garbage, he'd promote the other site, and he knows what he's doing. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| This is... | ||
| This is more about fundraising. | ||
| You know, even if it was about promoting voting, you know, that's still fucked up on the night. | ||
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That it's a lie about promoting yourself is fucked up. | |
| Ted doesn't want to get political. | ||
| I understand that. | ||
| He wants to get profitable. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| So Alex is trying desperately to get Ted to say that bad shit's coming. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And so this clip is really fun because Alex is trying, Ted doesn't play ball, and then Alex has to, like, put his tail between his legs and sulk. | ||
| Somebody asked this question. | ||
| I believe this is a real psychopath. | ||
| I believe this shooting happened. | ||
| The question is, though, it's a little weird that we're right outside the midterms, 168 days out, 168 days out, and magically this is all happening. | ||
| Well, the... | ||
| TV hosts and pro gun guy and rock star, but as a father and grandfather, gut level, Ted Nugent, they know they're losing. | ||
| What do you expect them to pull next? | ||
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Well, the pull Pulse on the not-so-mean streets of America, Alex, which you retain an accurate reading of that pulse, and we thank you for that. | |
| We thank you for speaking up and raising hell. | ||
| That's what the Founding Fathers wanted all good Americans, to be like Ted Nugent and Alex Jones. | ||
| If you're not raising hell, you might as well go to Cuba where you're not allowed to. | ||
| The point being is that I know these people. | ||
| I walk the streets here in Texas, and I still communicate with my friends in all 50 states, Alex. | ||
| I was on the phone today with Steven Tyler down there. | ||
| I'm on the phone with just ranchers and farmers and cops and teachers in all 50 states nonstop getting ready for a rock and roll tour and a hunting season where we share campfires both literally and figuratively. | ||
| I believe that there is an awakening taking place because of the cruelty of our current government. | ||
| The cruelty, the dishonesty, the violation of their sacred constitutional oath. | ||
| I believe that it's going to be a win-win. | ||
| I'm an eternal optimist and I have great hope. | ||
| That people are waking up and we are going to crush this treasonous wave that is now headed by this freak who can't form a syllable in the White House. | ||
| Ted Nugent, I totally agree with you. | ||
| Owen Schroer has got some questions. | ||
| My question is, yes, the red tsunami is the biggest ever. | ||
| I totally agree with you. | ||
| Owen Schroer. | ||
| The moment you are off this phone call, I am going to claim that there will be non-stop mass shootings from now until the end of the midterms. | ||
| God damn it, Ted. | ||
| How dare you say that there is positive things coming? | ||
| Non-stop shootings from now until the end of the midterms. | ||
| God fucking Ted. | ||
| Ruining my fucking name. | ||
| Oh, let's go camping. | ||
| Shut up, Ted! | ||
| So here's where Shemaine, Ted's wife, gets involved in the proceedings. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| And she apparently hasn't gotten one of the memos that Alex has put out. | ||
| Shemaine, it's just as smart as you are. | ||
| What is her view on things? | ||
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Hey, Alex, I'm sitting right here. | |
| I agree with Ted, and, you know, it's a shame of what's going on. | ||
| I don't know how anybody thinks that if we don't change the way that we voted in the past... | ||
| Why are things going to be any different? | ||
| So if we can't fix these voting machines, I'm scared of what's going to happen. | ||
| No, the voting machines were a red herring. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| No, the new narrative is that the voting machines were a distraction by the globalists. | ||
| Did you not watch Dinesh D'Souza's most recent movie? | ||
| That your husband is promoting on this show? | ||
| Wait, is there voting machines in that one? | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| No, that's mostly about the mules. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| So yeah, Shemaine brings up hanging out with Trump. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And that's fun to think about. | ||
| But Alex is really excited. | ||
| He wants some hot goss. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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You know what? | |
| When we were with President Trump last weekend, there were two things that he said to us, Alex. | ||
| He said, I think it's going to get pretty dark before it gets better, before it gets light. | ||
| And that this had to happen so that people would wake up. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Wow, so Trump said that. | ||
| That's huge. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Yeah, he admitted it. | ||
| We spent some great time with the president. | ||
| He's a great man. | ||
| He's not perfect, but compared to the regular politicians, he's almost like Michael the Archangel. | ||
| No, I agree. | ||
| Well, spend a few minutes on that and let you beautiful people go. | ||
| Yeah, please, tell me more about Trump. | ||
| Tell me more. | ||
| Yeah, it's strange how sycophantic that still kind of is for him, even though he's trying to pretend that he's like, you know, I've moved on. | ||
| Yeah, he's still very much into that star fuckery. | ||
| That's so gross. | ||
| So the Nugents take off, and it's back to business. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Owen has some thoughts about who could and could not own guns in early American history. | ||
| I don't want to live in a war zone. | ||
| I don't want to live in a society where I feel like I have to carry a gun around. | ||
| But we are in a war zone with all these devil worshippers. | ||
| And I definitely don't want to be a slave. | ||
| I'll tell you that damn true. | ||
| I'm never going to be a slave. | ||
| And I love how they say, oh, the Second Amendment was written. | ||
| That didn't mean everybody could own a gun. | ||
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Hmm. | |
| Let's see. | ||
| Why don't you finish that statement? | ||
| Who couldn't own a gun in 1776? | ||
| Who was that? | ||
| Slaves! | ||
| That's who it was! | ||
| Slaves couldn't own a gun in 1776. | ||
| So they just want to make you a slave. | ||
| You're not supposed to care that much about slavery. | ||
| It was not a big thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Don't you guys always say that, oh, no, no, no, they wanted it. | ||
| Oh, it's pushing CRT. | ||
| Yeah, exactly, right? | ||
| So you should also probably learn a little bit more about history. | ||
| So slaves couldn't own a gun in the early days of America, but you know who else couldn't? | ||
| Women. | ||
| All non-white people, regardless of whether or not they were enslaved, like Native Americans. | ||
| Also, you'd be really hard-pressed to find women who owned guns. | ||
| Although there may not have been a prohibition against it, but it just wasn't something that culturally was very acceptable. | ||
| Also, anyone who didn't swear an oath of loyalty to the new country couldn't own guns. | ||
| And prior to the founding of the country, the colonies of Maryland, And then Pennsylvania joined in on that later. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The early Americans targeted populations that they felt were likely to rebel against them, and then they took their weapons. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| It's remarkable, really. | ||
| Alex fetishizes the Founding Fathers, and yet they did exactly the thing he's constantly yelling about the globalists doing, and then the globalists never actually do the thing. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
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It's weird. | |
| So what they were realizing, right, is they didn't like the way King George was oppressing them. | ||
| They overthrew him. | ||
| So they overthrew him, and then they looked at their own behavior towards other people, and they were like, oh shit, they have a legitimate grievance against us. | ||
| We could do things better. | ||
| Or, I'll tell you this, that King George guy knew what he was talking about. | ||
| So a lot of that was during, like, the colonial times. | ||
| A lot of that stuff, like disarming Catholics and what have you. | ||
| But, in 1878, New Hampshire made a law that would disarm and imprison any tramp that was, quote, found carrying any firearm or other dangerous weapon. | ||
| Tramps would lose their guns if all they did was, quote, threatened to do any injury to any person or to the real or personal estate of another. | ||
| Shit was tough for tramps. | ||
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I can't believe that they would be so against tramps. | |
| Anyway, the picture of who was and wasn't allowed to be armed in the early history of our country isn't as cut and dry as Owen wants it to be. | ||
| But that makes sense, given that I'm sure most of the stuff that he knows comes from memes and listening to Alex make things up. | ||
| I mean, isn't he supposed to even be like, no, slaves could own guns because of the Second Amendment or whatever it is. | ||
| Aren't they supposed to believe that all the rights apply equally even if you're a slave because you choose to be a slave or something along those lines? | ||
| I bet they wouldn't want to parse that out. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, they go back to calls, and this caller has some really good advice, but it's also too late. | ||
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Yeah, first of all, I mean, I'm sick to my stomach like everybody else, and what Ted said, you can't talk that, so I'm not going to go there. | |
| Go to HunterNation.org. | ||
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One thing I would ask people, please wait for things to unfold in this. | |
| We know how things change over the next few days. | ||
| Yeah, man, don't jump to any conclusions, Alex, like you have this entire time. | ||
| Yeah, it's a bad idea to speculate this close with so little information, Alex. | ||
| Alex, my advice to you. | ||
| Don't do the show you're in the middle of doing, Alex. | ||
| Alex, I've been following along with your court cases. | ||
| Do you know the things you're doing? | ||
| Somewhat pointless. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So anyway, Caller has some, I would say, fucked up perspectives, and Alex decides to sign off on that. | ||
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I've been listening to your show for about two years. | |
| I really appreciate the work you're doing. | ||
| If these satanic lunatics can't kill them in the womb, then they brainwash them through the media and the schools, then the pharma companies get a hold of them and whack them out of their minds with the drugs. | ||
| We need to take our kids out of these institutions and make sure we teach them about Jesus because he's coming back very soon. | ||
| Well, I totally agree with that statement, Owen. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So take your kids out of the schools because Jesus is coming back soon. | ||
| Alex is like, hell yeah. | ||
| Also, take your kids out of the schools and also arm teachers. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know what's going on anymore. | ||
| Teachers should be armed, and you should try and teach your children geometry. | ||
| By yourself. | ||
| I guess it kind of makes some sense in as much as, like, let's arm the teachers, but everyone's homeschooled, so it's all the parents who are... | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| I guess that's the workaround here. | ||
| I think a lot of kids are going to go to prison. | ||
| So, Owen does not accept anybody on the left pretending that they care about this shooting, which is dumb. | ||
| That's nice. | ||
| This is something that frustrates me so much about the demonic left. | ||
| They want to sit here and virtue signal and have their crocodile tears anytime they can use a tragedy for their political advantage. | ||
| I don't want to hear about a Democrat upset about the children dead in the Uvalde shooting because you celebrate 60 million dead babies aborted in this country. | ||
| You literally go out and celebrate. | ||
| You have specials on TV. | ||
| You do parades. | ||
| You launch confetti. | ||
| You paint your face. | ||
| You celebrate abortion. | ||
| You literally celebrate baby murder. | ||
| And they say, kill that bastard. | ||
| It is a baby. | ||
| We're murdering him. | ||
| And they expect me to sit here and have my emotional heart strength. | ||
| Oh, and they know you have a conscience. | ||
| They manipulate your conscience. | ||
| Hey, Dick. | ||
| Don't have an emotional reaction to what other people are saying. | ||
| You should have an emotional reaction to the event itself. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| I don't know why you take... | ||
| Any kind of... | ||
| Like, look, I have a lot of thoughts about Alex's response to the shooting. | ||
| I have a lot of feelings about that in terms of the way... | ||
| You know, we're discussing it on this episode. | ||
| That is completely distinct from my actual feelings about the shooting itself. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And my emotional response and processing of it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It does not feel... | ||
| From what they're doing and how they're engaging with this, that there is much of a difference between their response to the shooting and their response to what liberals are doing. | ||
| I mean, he did just say, why are you trying to make me care about this? | ||
| It feels that way a little bit, yeah. | ||
| And I won't care because you support abortion. | ||
| Yeah, you shouldn't be making me care about this. | ||
| And the, I mean, you know, what it is is they can't... | ||
| Believe that there is a different way, you know, like because they politicize, they do all this stuff. | ||
| So they can't believe that there's a way not to do that. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Because they know that it would be better to not do that. | ||
| Yeah, they don't believe that anybody isn't as craven. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And they have to because if you recognize that other people are not as craven as you, then you can't really justify your craven behavior. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So in this next clip, the worm turns. | ||
| Some information comes to Alex's attention, and everything is different after this. | ||
| Everything's flipped upside down. | ||
| And again, it's not confirmed that the photos going around the internet of the guy in a skirt is the reported shooter. | ||
| Andy Nago points out, many are posting photos of a young male in women's clothing claiming it's the Evaldi Texas mass shooter. | ||
| These images are confirmed and unverified. | ||
| Please stop sharing them because in the event, they are... | ||
| Ramos, Art Ramos, you're harming someone who had nothing to do with the shooting. | ||
| And let me just be clear here, Alex. | ||
| That's being reported, but we're not sure that's who it is. | ||
| But let me just be clear here. | ||
| The images that they're talking about are not the images that we've been sharing. | ||
| There's other images out there with a clear trans man waving trans flags and stuff. | ||
| We haven't been sharing those. | ||
| I believe those are the images he's talking about. | ||
| We've been sharing the images that are on the Instagram account that is claimed to be his. | ||
| But that could be somebody spoofing it. | ||
| Right, and that's why it was odd. | ||
| So that's weird. | ||
| Alex is making this clarification based on Andy Ngo posting that this trans individual isn't confirmed to be the shooting after he's already spent pretty much his entire show reporting that the shooter is trans. | ||
| And to be clear, the picture they've been talking about this whole show is the one that was the 4chan hoax. | ||
| You can tell by how preoccupied Alex has been about the stockings and skirt. | ||
| The picture that the actual shooter posted to his Instagram includes him wearing pants. | ||
| This is Alex realizing in real time that he's done the same thing that he did with the Parkland shooting all over again. | ||
| He's taken some dumb shit he saw on 4chan and he's participated in and greatly amplified the defamatory claims that an innocent person is a mass murderer. | ||
| All it takes is a tweet from Andy Ngo to get Alex to start covering his ass. | ||
| But if you pay attention, you'll see that Andy posted that tweet at 629 p.m. | ||
| over half an hour before Alex got on air for this special report. | ||
| I have no idea if what Alex did this time is actionable in any way, but it's a cold splash of water to the face that brings into sharp focus that Alex is incapable Yeah. | ||
| His priority is pushing his extreme right-wing politics, and he does not give a shit if he hurts people in service of making engaging, sensationalized, and bigoted content. | ||
| Don't forget that within the first minute of being on air, Alex reported that the shooter was trans, based on a picture that he'd come across and sent to his staff, which Alex specifically said were a person in a dress. | ||
| This is not the Instagram picture of the actual shooter. | ||
| The whole show's content has been based on a 4chan hoax. | ||
| And this is just a sad attempt to cover some ass. | ||
| And I think that the way that Owen jumps in and is like, no, no, no, we're talking about the Instagram picture. | ||
| That reveals knowledge of what you have done. | ||
| That to me is so telling of like, oh, wait, we have to come up with an explanation for why what we did wasn't the thing that Andy knows tweet is telling people not to do. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| It's pathetic. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| It takes Andy No to get them to realize what they're doing is fucked up. | ||
| It's sad, but I guess if the message gets across... | ||
| I mean, sure. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's so unreal. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So Alex tries to back himself up more with like, hey man, look, it's breaking. | ||
| This is a breaking story. | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| Yeah, this is a live breaking news event, so we're giving you the best information we have at this point. | ||
| We're not sure if... | ||
| Salve at door is the person's account. | ||
| Though the news is saying it could be. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
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Well, over the next few days, I'm sure we'll get more intel as they roll it out. | |
| Or we won't. | ||
| It could be the Vegas shooting all over again, so you never know. | ||
| What exactly is Owen wanting to know about the Las Vegas shooting? | ||
| What was that? | ||
| Just because he stopped caring about it and hasn't read anything about the story in a few years doesn't mean that everybody else just is pretending it didn't exist. | ||
| Except Steve Buchanek. | ||
| He's definitely pretending it didn't exist or happen at all. | ||
| In August 2018, the Las Vegas Metro Police Department released a 187-page report covering the investigation into the shooting, and if Owen's so curious about anything, he should go ahead and read that. | ||
| The FBI did an investigation as well and determined that they couldn't nail down a specific motive, which is frustrating, but it's not proof of any kind of cover-up. | ||
| We heard in the Kit Daniels deposition about how the audience loses interest in stories that are a few days old, and that they have to tailor their coverage to accommodate that. | ||
| In order to chase viewers and keep the supplements selling, Infowars moved on from caring about that story, and what Owen is doing here is that he's trying to blame everyone else for their own shallowness and laziness in covering stories. | ||
| Like, yeah, you lost the interest in covering this because it wasn't moving the needle, and now you're pretending that... | ||
| They just stopped investigating it or covering it. | ||
| Well, I mean... | ||
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That was you. | |
| You did that. | ||
| What he's admitting is that he does not do any research at all. | ||
| He's only spoon-fed what it is he gets. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He's a puppet. | ||
| He doesn't actually go... | ||
| Well, I mean, totally. | ||
| They don't go looking for things. | ||
| It's brought to them. | ||
| You know? | ||
| They don't go looking for, oh, I have a question that I want the answer to. | ||
| I'll go look to find it. | ||
| The answer is either brought to them, or they don't find it. | ||
| Yeah, things that are challenging aren't really in the InfoWars milieu. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| So, they get another caller, and this guy wants to pray. | ||
| And so we have two prayers on this show. | ||
| But I keep this in just as a kind of contrast. | ||
| Because I think this is a pretty decent prayer. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| Let's talk to Steve in Kansas. | ||
| Go ahead, Steve. | ||
|
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Are you there? | |
| I sure am, brother. | ||
| Welcome. | ||
|
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Thank you. | |
| It's an honor to be with you tonight. | ||
| I just wanted to offer a prayer to all those people in Uvalde. | ||
| Lord, we ask that you cover the families of these precious children in your grace and give the families the peace to accept what has happened. | ||
| It's normal that they're going to be upset, but there's nothing we can say to comfort them. | ||
| But the Lord can do it, and he will. | ||
| We ask this in your name, in the name of Jesus Christ, our Savior, and the Holy Spirit. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| No, you're right. | ||
| It just shows more of the reason for the Second Amendment than ever. | ||
| Have demons like this running around. | ||
| Alex's response is shit, but the reason that I kept that in and wanted to play it was because I want to stress that when people prey on Infowars, I'm not opposed to praying. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I just think that they usually do it in a really fucked up way that is generally self-serving and maybe pushing an agenda. | ||
| I think that what this caller is doing is expressing a pain and a wish to express solidarity and a desire for God's grace to help the parents. | ||
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Right. | |
| And I don't think that there's anything wrong with it. | ||
| I think it's a little bit weird for Alex's show to present itself as a news show and then for people to be praying all over it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But whatever. | ||
| It's sort of the difference of his style, let's say. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And people end up praying on Alex's show, because it's kind of fucked up. | ||
| But I just want to be clear, there are instances every now and again, it's maybe rare, where somebody comes in with a prayer that's somber. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| No, and I respect that. | ||
| I just know that it... | ||
| Proves they don't actually believe in or give a shit about their religion whatsoever. | ||
| Well, you don't know what this caller is bringing to the table. | ||
| I mean, I know what the Bible is bringing to the table, and he doesn't. | ||
| Well, you're jumping to a conclusion. | ||
| But look, here's the deal. | ||
| I just want to put these in juxtaposition. | ||
| Owen's prayer, this caller's prayer. | ||
| There's a world of difference between them. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| And I feel like one of the reasons is because... | ||
| There's an opportunisticness in Owen, and there's a sincerity of feeling in this caller. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And that is the difference. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| That's the relevant difference. | ||
| No, I agree. | ||
| So anyway, Alex, now that he's seen Andy Ngo's tweet, the tone of this is entirely different. | ||
| And who knows if even Salvador Ramos is the real shooter? | ||
| Who knows if any of this is true? | ||
| Who knows if these photos are real? | ||
| Who knows if the guy on the skirt's real? | ||
| Who knows if any of this is real? | ||
| Because the media lies so much, and we have a right to say we don't believe what we're hearing. | ||
| Such a strange shift in tone. | ||
| Alex is clearly worried that what he'd been saying this whole show looks bad now that it's become clear that he was identifying the wrong person as the shooter. | ||
| All this show has been like, we got pictures of the reported shooter and then straight demonizing trans people. | ||
| And now, all of a sudden, Alex doesn't know if anything is real. | ||
| He's gone from a sensationalist, bigot propagandist perpetuating a 4chan hoax to someone so skeptical they can't even prove that the person sitting next to them This is pathetic stuff. | ||
| He's retreated into a world of like, you have to prove everything. | ||
| It's what he did in the depositions. | ||
| He retreated back the moment he had to confront reality. | ||
| And he cannot get away with this. | ||
| He has to not do what he's about to try to do, right? | ||
| He immediately backs off and he's like, listen, I mean, I don't know if it's... | ||
| I'm not saying that I know it's... | ||
| All I'm saying is that there are questions that sometimes people need to ask, and I don't know if it's this guy or that guy. | ||
| What he might as well be doing is admitting guilt. | ||
| Before we get anywhere, we have to try and prove that existence is something that everyone experiences. | ||
| To bake an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe. | ||
| Yeah, basically. | ||
| So they take another caller. | ||
| My point there is just that it's glaring, the difference in tone. | ||
| Yeah, it's bananas. | ||
| And there's a reason. | ||
| So they take another call, and this guy has a fun idea that's never going to happen. | ||
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Alex, I finally get to talk to you finally and for once I want to let you know you Owen and Harrison need to go on Joe Rogan's podcast. | |
| Please clip this and send it to him so that he can hear this. | ||
| Thousands of people want you guys all three of you on the podcast. | ||
| I know people want me on Joe Rogan's podcast. | ||
| I'm friends with Joe. | ||
| There's a lot of political pressure. | ||
| Obviously, people want us on Joe Rogan's podcast. | ||
| He gets the highest ratings when we go on there. | ||
| It would be great. | ||
| That's kind of a... | ||
| Megan, the question there, but yes, I appreciate your call. | ||
| Yeah, I'm not getting back on that show, probably, maybe for a long time, and he has just enough patience for me. | ||
| He does not want my lackeys to come on. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| But I do actually think that this is something that callers and listeners of Alex's show should really ask themselves. | ||
| Like, okay, yeah, Joe is fine. | ||
| A couple times having Alex on. | ||
| And he has a lot of fucked up weirdos come on. | ||
| But weirdly, he does not invite on people who are like a bunch of Alex's crew. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| His whack pack, for lack of a better term. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Where's Dr. Marbles? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He's not going on Joe Rogan, that's for sure. | ||
| No, and like Skousen. | ||
| Why do you get Skousen on Rogan? | ||
| Not gonna... | ||
| I see that as unlikely. | ||
| Rogan's not gonna get any... | ||
| Roger Stone, even. | ||
| ...clout from having Roger Stone on his podcast. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Although, I think that would be interesting. | ||
| That would be interesting. | ||
| That would actually probably be the first time I'd listen to a Rogan episode. | ||
| Of all of the people in Alex's orbit that, like, you know, obviously Rogan has probably... | ||
| Not real interested in talking to. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| That is the one where he's at least, like, really famous. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It would make sense. | ||
| I think Mike Lindell could go on there. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| What if Rogan needs a little spending money? | ||
| That $100 million goes away real quick, you know? | ||
| You don't know what you're spending at all. | ||
| I don't know if it goes away that quick. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, like, look, I don't have $100 million, and Mike Lindell couldn't pay to get on this podcast. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| That is fair. | ||
| Alex is talking about this idea of dancing around the I'm not going to be on Rogan kind of thing. | ||
| And that's kind of why you see him on these other podcasts. | ||
| It's because he doesn't have access to the top. | ||
| And that's why you don't see Harrison on any podcasts. | ||
| No. | ||
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Because he fucking sucks. | |
| And when you see video that Harrison made being pushed on Tucker Carlson, you have to pretend that it's not from an Infowars host. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| It's from completely different stuff. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Never heard of it. | ||
| So Alex, you know, he always talks about having the globalists' playbook in a way that is like, I know what they're going to do. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He talks a little bit more about this, and I honestly think that the way he's describing this here... | ||
| Is meaningless. | ||
| If they don't have totally controlled rigged elections coming up for the midterms, they're going to have to do something to either curtail people from voting or to just not even have an election. | ||
| I mean, we're in crazy... | ||
| See, the globalists are predictable in that we know they have these plans up their sleeves. | ||
| How they're going to decide what they want to roll out. | ||
| They have the cards in their hand. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| We know the plays they can make. | ||
| Like, even if you stole, like the... | ||
| Patriots are known to do. | ||
| The other side's playbook. | ||
| You don't know when they're going to play a play. | ||
| So we have the playbook. | ||
| We just don't know what play they're going to play. | ||
| That means nothing. | ||
| You have nothing. | ||
| We have... | ||
| Okay, so when I watch... | ||
| Let's say we were playing a football game, right? | ||
| And I'm the coach. | ||
| I'm watching tape on a 45-minute football game or whatever it is. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So I know all the other team's plays. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Because I've watched them play them over and over and over again. | ||
| So naturally that means that I know exactly what they're going to do and we will win the game every time, right? | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, but I mean, like, obviously the advantage that you have of knowing a team's plays is like the way they line up. | ||
| It's better than not knowing their plays. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The way they line up will give you some indication of what the play might be. | ||
| Tendencies, those types of things, yes. | ||
| Alex? | ||
| Engages with a globalist like that, but he's wrong every fucking time. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, I mean, it's like if Alex was the coach of the Bengals, and I was the coach of the Patriots, and I had the Bengals playbook, and Alex had the playbook for like... | ||
| I don't know, the Cincinnati Reds. | ||
| Wrong sport. | ||
| It's trouble. | ||
| And for the Reds, the play is, catch the ball. | ||
| He's like, wait, how do I throw a curveball? | ||
| Now, the thing that he's describing is essentially, if I were to boil this down into more realistic language, it's, I've come up with a bunch of stuff that I constantly say the globalists are going to do. | ||
| And I don't know when they're going to do these things or if they're going to do them, but hey, these are all the things that I have decided my enemies are capable of. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's meaningless. | ||
| It's stupid. | ||
| No, he might as well have a whiteboard and just write down random thoughts that he has of things that might be bad, and then just write them up there, and then if he doesn't like it, he'll erase one and be like, these are all the things the globalists do. | ||
| Yeah, this is now the playbook. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Amended. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So I have bad news. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| It's the summer of rage. | ||
| There's already, it's the liberal summer of rage. | ||
| Okay, so the liberal of summer of rage is... | ||
| They do this every election cycle. | ||
| 2020, we saw them burn half of America down to the ground and the two dozen dead and everything that trailed the Democrats' summer of rage. | ||
| So if you count midterms, every other summer is a summer of rage? | ||
| Every other summer is a summer of rage. | ||
| And it's always and only the liberals doing it. | ||
| And so the other summers are the summers of... | ||
| They're off-rage. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The summers of... | ||
| It's like El Nino, El Nino. | ||
| Reflection. | ||
| You know, it's that kind of thing. | ||
| Yeah, in between, there's the... | ||
| The summer of rage in the election year, and then on the off year, it's the summer of reflection and taking stock of what happened during the rage. | ||
| Right, right, right, right, right, right. | ||
| This is dumb. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Immediately followed by the fall of malaise. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So we have one last clip here, and I mean, if I were to put a button on this whole show, it's been meaningless. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But yeah, here Alex explains why he did the show. | ||
| Oh, and great job. | ||
| I want to say great job with the crew. | ||
| We got to all those calls. | ||
| Thank you, Ventura. | ||
| We took like 20 calls. | ||
| We had Ted Nugent on. | ||
| Didn't take 20. We came in because those dead children are important, and people trying to capitalize on their murder are bad people. | ||
| So we had to come in because we knew Biden would show up tonight. | ||
| To capitalize on that murder. | ||
| We knew all the shows would show up. | ||
| And if we as conservatives, we as Christians, we as populist, we as pro-humans don't show up when the enemy shows up, we've given them a feel. | ||
| But to the crew that already worked 18 hours, you showed up. | ||
| Mr. Wolf over here. | ||
| Been here since this morning, running the boom. | ||
| You showed up, Hair Wolf. | ||
| Everybody showed up. | ||
| Owen showed up. | ||
| And we'll show up, thanks to your backing tomorrow, 8 a.m. Central, with American Journal Harrison Smith. | ||
| Alex Jones, 11 a.m. | ||
| Owen Troyer, 3 p.m. | ||
| We will be here as long as you back us and support us amazing products. | ||
| At Infowarsstore.com, today's the last day to get X2, the deep-earth crystal iodine that Globals are trying to keep from you. | ||
| It's just such a game-changer. | ||
| Look into it. | ||
| It's 40% off with Ultra 12, 25% off by itself. | ||
| Thank God no one's on the... | ||
| Alex isn't trying to profit off... | ||
| Those are bad people. | ||
| People who are trying to be opportunistic and profit off of this kind of thing. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Bad people. | ||
| Conservatives and Christians really love showing up after all those children are murdered to go try and make sure other children get murdered later. | ||
| Ted Nugent wasn't trying to direct people to his subscription website. | ||
| People who profit off of this type of thing are bad people, Dan. | ||
| Message received. | ||
| You got it. | ||
| You know exactly what you're doing. | ||
| This obviously is difficult material. | ||
| Perhaps Alex's stuff isn't as viscerally grotesque as it probably could be in the immediate. | ||
| But I think some of that is probably just because he knows that He could get in trouble. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If I were to put a button on this episode, it would be 300,000 pounds and I would drop it from 10,000 feet above the Cold War studio. | ||
| That's what I would do. | ||
| It's a super reinforced structure. | ||
| You're never gonna... | ||
| Damn it! | ||
| So, obviously, the main thing and the main point is that this is a tragedy. | ||
| And, you know, obviously... | ||
| Whatever condolences are appropriate and very sincerely and heartfelt go out to the families affected and the community of Vivaldi as a whole. | ||
| I think that there is a real challenge in terms of talking about this through the lens of Alex Jones, or at least our next episode will be much more difficult because of the conflicting and contradictory statements that have come out and the... | ||
| The malleability of what's been put out by the police. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The cops have lied so much that we're fucked. | ||
| That's a blunt way to put it. | ||
| And I don't fully feel, sitting here now recording this episode, that we have a concrete answer on a lot of stuff. | ||
| I think investigations are probably necessary to get to a concrete answer. | ||
| And so that will be more challenging than, say, Alex's demonizing of trans people and misidentifying this person. | ||
| Right. | ||
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It's a lot more easy to say, this is what happened. | |
| Yeah. | ||
|
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And so I think that there will be a challenge and we'll have to cross that bridge. | |
| Yeah. | ||
|
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But. | |
| Yeah. | ||
|
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Anyway, I hope everyone out there is doing, Yeah. | |
| We hope that things are, you know. | ||
| There's a little bit of distance, but it's still so fucking fucked. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So fucked. | ||
| And the moment you investigate cop lies, you just find more cop lies, you know? | ||
| Like, every time you started, like, oh, this was a little bit... | ||
| This timeline doesn't make sense. | ||
| They're like, well, there's a different timeline. | ||
| And you're like, well, that one can't make sense. | ||
| Save it for next time. | ||
| These thoughts are relevant for next time. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So we'll be back. | ||
|
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Indeed. | |
| But until then, we have a website. | ||
| We do have a website, Dan. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| And hunternation.org. | ||
|
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No. | |
| No. | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
| But also, we have a Twitter. | ||
| Yes, it's at knowledgefight and I go to bed, Jordan. | ||
| Yep. | ||
|
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We'll be back. | |
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| I hope you all have a dreamy, creamy summer. | ||
| And now, here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
|
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |
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