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May 27, 2022 - Knowledge Fight
01:09:06
#686: Continental Negotiations

Jordan Holmes and Dan Friesen dissect Kerry Cassidy’s wild claims—ET races like reptilian Dracos and Aldeberon "aliens" (humanoid-reptilian hybrids) controlling Africa’s monetary system via Basel’s Bank for International Settlements, linking apartheid’s collapse to their alleged skin-darkening schemes, and framing Ebola as a cover-up to hide their bases. Cassidy ties COVID vaccines to cybernetic armies, "black goo" bioweapons (graphene oxide) to the Falklands conflict, and suggests Putin is a clone while Elon Musk may be a benevolent AI cyborg, despite Dan’s correction of her Nazi time-travel fantasy about Project Mars. The hosts mock the incoherence, racism, and sci-fi absurdity, concluding that modern conspiracy theories—like QAnon—have replaced older, equally outlandish but more entertaining alien narratives. [Automatically generated summary]

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dan friesen
29:28
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jordan holmes
19:09
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kerry cassidy
16:44
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alex jones
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dan friesen
Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
unidentified
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot.
Oh, God.
Something in my eye.
jordan holmes
Oh, God, something in your eye.
dan friesen
Oh, that's not my bright spot.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
Oh, Nelly.
All right, I'm okay.
I can blink through this.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
Are you okay?
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, I'll be all right.
My bright spot, Jordan, is this new chair you got me.
I got a new chair, a new office desk chair for my birthday that just arrived.
I'm excited.
It's in the box still.
I have not unpacked it, but it is a bright spot because I spend quite a bit of time at the office, indeed.
And so my chair is quite destroyed.
jordan holmes
As I look at it, it is a nightmare.
dan friesen
We have this armrest coming apart.
jordan holmes
I mean, the 45-degree angle is just absurd.
dan friesen
It's not good.
I favor my left side when I lean, and it leads to—I can only imagine what's going on with my spine.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
You're sitting in a stretchy beanbag chair.
That's insane.
dan friesen
So yeah, I'm excited to get that new chair out, build it up, and hopefully feel a little bit better sitting.
jordan holmes
I'm telling you what, man.
Lower back, it's better.
dan friesen
Nice.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Well, thank you, Jordan.
I appreciate that.
Quite a nice gift.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is everything everywhere all at once.
The movie?
Finally saw it.
Fucking as good as they say.
dan friesen
That's what I've heard.
jordan holmes
It's fantastic.
dan friesen
I've heard people say it's good, and then I've heard other people say it's as good as people say.
jordan holmes
It's as good as people say, but it's also really, really great.
dan friesen
Nice.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Michelle Yeo, incredible.
unidentified
Great.
jordan holmes
Just incredible.
dan friesen
I'll check it out eventually.
That is definitely one that's like, you know, I don't see a lot of movies, but it's on the short list of ones that I need to get around to.
jordan holmes
It's very worth seeing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Well, great.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm glad you enjoyed it.
jordan holmes
Bright Spots Achieved.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we come to the show in a little bit of a difficult position.
Yeah.
Because of current news with the school shooting in Texas.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
I made a bit of an executive decision, and that is that we're not going to be talking about Alex and his coverage of that until at least Monday because it's difficult to say exactly or to put this into words, but I feel like there are sort of two primary objectives of the show.
And one is to analyze and deconstruct the narratives and the false reality that's perpetuated by Alex, the sources of it, the sources of his worldview, his ideology, a lot of this anti-communist bullshit.
That stuff is very important.
But the second goal really is to not do things that are not in service of the audience.
And I don't feel like there is such a rush to get to this that it overcomes the sort of difficulty that people are feeling and how it would be exacerbated by listening to Alex's horrible bullshit about it.
So we're going to put that on the back burner, but we will eventually cover his immediate response.
And, you know, we can do that next week.
jordan holmes
It's nice that you can make executive decisions unilaterally, mainly just because my opinion is so predictable.
Like, you didn't really need to bring that to me.
We didn't need to.
dan friesen
I think we've had conversations about similar things in the past about like, you know, there is not really a pressing news cycle for us necessarily.
We can allow things to be until, well, one aspect of it is the emotional heat and the charge of it at the moment.
And then the second is I think this case in particular has really illustrated the difficulty of nailing down facts in the immediate.
Yep.
jordan holmes
And every hour it seems like there's a new piece of information.
Every hour it seems like there's something somebody has not been completely honest about or any number of difficult details that we should not be grappling with until we have the totality of them.
Because that's our show.
dan friesen
Getting a handle on things is pretty difficult while a lot of information is shifting around.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You know, people are still trying to figure out what's going on.
jordan holmes
In short, we don't fuck with the wet submit.
That's not our thing.
dan friesen
It doesn't help.
Nope.
So we'll have a different episode today.
But first, let's say hello to some new folks.
Oh, that's great.
So first, Nick Dnonk, policy wonk.
Alex's dog is bones.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Next, Wally C. Punk.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Next, Darian, this is from Emma.
Oh, happy birthday.
This actually is a little bit late.
Your birthday was on the 19th, but I hope you had a good one.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Happy birthday.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
And the 19th is a lot sooner than we're used to.
That's great.
dan friesen
That's true.
That's like a week.
Yeah.
Next, Nico couldn't think of anything funny to say.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Next, non-dairy, call it a sorbet.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Thank you very much.
jordan holmes
about a sherbet that reminds me of uh me and oh man that's that's good stuff I was Jack Baker's old lactose intolerance joke.
Sure, sure.
He had the closer, and I can't remember his line for it.
He did it once, and it got a bigger laugh, and then he kept doing it and made fun of me for giving him the bigger laugh tag, and he got so mad.
And to this day, I will lord it over him.
See, as long as I live.
dan friesen
See, anytime I hear Sorbet or anything, I think of Danny Callis's joke.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
dan friesen
Sherbit.
jordan holmes
Sherbet.
alex jones
It's not Sherbart.
dan friesen
Did you know that?
jordan holmes
It ain't Sherbart.
dan friesen
Good times.
jordan holmes
Oh, great stuff.
dan friesen
Comedians that most people in the audience have no idea.
jordan holmes
This was a lot more fun when it was only like 50 people in Chicago.
dan friesen
Sharbets.
Sherbart.
You don't even have to explain the reference.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Also, Jordan, we got Technocrat in the mix.
So thank you so much to Don't Be Meddling with My Peddling.
Don't be roaming where I'm adrenochroming.
Don't be screaming when I'm dreamily creaming.
This is bordering on new world ordering.
Thank you so much, you are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
I have risen above my enemies.
I might quit tomorrow, actually.
I'm just going to take a little breakie now.
A little breaky for me.
And then we're going to come back.
And I'm going to start the show over.
But I'm the devil.
I got to be taken off here.
I've been all this.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
I got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your new world order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit.
Maybe today should be my last broadcast.
Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.
Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again.
That's really what I want to do.
I never want to come back here again.
I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air.
I'll be better tomorrow.
dan friesen
He's not, but we'll never know.
jordan holmes
We will never know.
dan friesen
Well, we'll know later, but not today, indeed, because we're doing something a little bit different today.
And Jordan, there's only one way that we can start this bad boy off.
kerry cassidy
Hi, everyone.
I'm Carrie Cassidy from the Scott.
And I am here today to do sort of an overview of quite a few things.
And so hopefully this is going to work out and it's going to all make sense.
dan friesen
You didn't say hi.
kerry cassidy
That's because I was too excited.
jordan holmes
I didn't expect to see you.
dan friesen
Return the hell out of here.
jordan holmes
I didn't expect her.
I didn't expect her.
It's been so long.
dan friesen
It has.
jordan holmes
It's been so long since we've talked to Carrie.
dan friesen
It has been a long time since we checked in with Project Camelot Land and Sweary Carrie Cassidy.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
And one of the reasons is I'll periodically watch her updates that she does.
She does a thing where she's looking at the camera and breaking down the news.
And so much of it has just been QAnon and like COVID conspiracies and stuff.
And it's like, where is the space?
Where are the aliens?
jordan holmes
That's what we're here for.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Dog traitors.
That's what we're about.
dan friesen
Well, traitors, like mercantilists.
jordan holmes
Yes, traders.
Miners, not miners.
dan friesen
Yes, yes.
It's not dogs who have turned their back on the team that they were on.
jordan holmes
Dogs don't do that.
dan friesen
No, they're very loyal.
But today, she had an update within the last week or so, and we have an update on the world.
And I am thrilled to report that we are back to aliens.
Aliens are in play.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And there is major news.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit!
Finally!
dan friesen
Well, it's actually not news because it's something that conceivably has to have been going on since like the 70s, but it's news to us.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's what it's gotta.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
So here's where we start off with some of these storylines, and it has to do with a city in Switzerland.
kerry cassidy
First of all, what I want to talk about is the role of Basil or Basel, Switzerland, and the control of what is called the right to issue and why it's centered in Basel, Switzerland.
And as far as I can tell, there's very little talk about this, at least in the circles that I pay attention to.
And I'm always gathering more and more information.
So I have a whistleblower on the subject who is very well versed and trained as part of this monetary system that we've had that involves Wall Street stocks and all kinds of things.
dan friesen
Wall Street and stocks.
jordan holmes
Wall Street and stocks and aliens in Switzerland.
Hell yeah.
dan friesen
So Basil is a city in Switzerland that's home to the Bank for International Settlements.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And that's what's going on here.
unidentified
Gotcha.
dan friesen
The Bank of International Settlements is.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Yeah, that is the abbreviation.
It's like the central banks of the world can meet and sort out issues.
jordan holmes
It's the Bank of Banks.
dan friesen
Somewhat.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Okay.
dan friesen
But the notion of what Carrie is getting into is like the Bank of International Settlements directly controls all issuance of currency.
Yes, of course.
That's not accurate.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, it's the Bank of Banks.
All the banks go there to discuss what to do with their bank banks.
dan friesen
This all comes from a pamphlet called The Right to Issue, written by a guy named William Calder, which has mostly been reported on by the raving anti-Semite and friend of Leo Zagami, Henry Macau.
The idea is that there's this group called the Sabbateans who pretended to be Jewish people, but are actually evil.
And these people are the ones who are controlling all the banks and trying to destroy Western civilization and the world.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
More or less, it's an interesting workaround where folks who want to maintain all the ideology of hardcore neo-Nazism can do that while pretending that they don't hate Jewish people so they can feel better about themselves.
David Icke has spread some of these ideas on Alex's show in the past few years and actually is quite a big proponent of this Sabatean conspiracy idea.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I'm not particularly interested in what Carrie has to say about this stuff in terms of finances and shit.
I just want to point it out because the words are going to come out later.
The Basil Switzerland and what have you.
And also it's fun to highlight another instance of Carrie's spreading pretty explicitly crypto anti-Semitic shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, that is a turn I did not expect them to take whenever it's like, hey, you know, guys, anti-Semitism is wrong.
I didn't expect them to just be like, aha.
Now, what if we just say they weren't actually Jews?
Ah, I mean, that's a little twist.
dan friesen
You see sort of wrinkles and kernels of this in a lot of places, like with Ben Shapiro calling Jewish people who vote Democrat, like Jewish in name only.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
You know, that kind of stuff.
jordan holmes
Listen, we know we can't openly hate the Jews yet, but we got to get it out somehow, man.
It's just in us.
dan friesen
So Carrie has a whistleblower on this subject.
jordan holmes
Of course she does.
kerry cassidy
So I have a whistleblower on the subject who is very well versed and trained as part of this monetary system that we've had that involves Wall Street stocks and all kinds of things.
They have had training in this area.
And they have recently communicated to me that there's, I believe they said 10,000 acres where there are a certain group of families.
jordan holmes
Come on now.
kerry cassidy
I got a download as to the various ET races that are interacting and controlling the monetary system on Earth recently.
And so I wanted to wrap that into that understanding of the right to issue.
dan friesen
So 10,000 acres is approximately twice the size of the entire city of Basil in Switzerland.
That's pretty big.
And the city isn't just the Bank of International Settlements.
It's Switzerland's third most populated city.
jordan holmes
That's a big city.
It has a big city.
dan friesen
Well, for Switzerland.
Sure.
And actually, someone famous was born there.
jordan holmes
Basil.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Do you know?
You don't know who it is?
jordan holmes
Basil, Switzerland?
I should know.
It's somebody who was a writer and who did the things.
Nope.
No, who is it?
dan friesen
Roger Federer.
unidentified
Was it?
Yep.
kerry cassidy
No shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, your boy.
Your boy Federer.
jordan holmes
I don't know where anybody's born in this.
dan friesen
You love tennis.
jordan holmes
Well, sure, but I don't love people being born.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
So at this 10,000 acres or whatever, there's like the control of the control of the banks that's going on.
Sure.
And aliens are really interested.
jordan holmes
Okay, of course.
kerry cassidy
There is a group of ET races that seem to be vying for control and keeping control over the monetary system.
So first of all, there are the reptilian Dracos.
So I put them more or less in the same bucket.
jordan holmes
For sure.
kerry cassidy
The grays around, you know, the grays out there, the various gray races report to the reptilians and the Draco.
And then we've got those beings from Aldeberon that are, from what I understand, humanoid and might actually be reptilian-humanoid hybrids.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Wait.
So they've got their own planet of reptilian-humanoid hybrids?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Aldemaron.
dan friesen
Aldeberon.
jordan holmes
Aldebaron.
dan friesen
Yes.
I only correct you because they will factor heavily into the corner.
jordan holmes
Yes, I believe that.
I want to get it right.
Aldeberon is ostensibly, based on what Carrie is telling us, an entire system devoted to when the Draco reptilians and the humanoids got together and made a hybrid race, and they just gave them a planet and were like, stay on Aldeberon.
Maybe.
Because that's kind of what I'm hearing.
dan friesen
There's not concrete details here, but yes, maybe.
Who knows?
So one of the things that I was thinking about is like, this is such a manifestation of like weird narcissism to imagine that multiple alien groups are fighting with each other over our banking system.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Why would they care?
jordan holmes
No, okay.
So listen.
All right.
You have traveled several thousand light years, maybe even a million light years.
And you are like, shit, the Frank is not stable enough for me to invest in right now.
I'm going to have to go to the Euro.
dan friesen
As go the Euro, so goes the.
jordan holmes
So goes the universe.
dan friesen
I feel like if there are these, let's say, space-faring groups of aliens, they shouldn't give a fuck if we end up destroying ourselves.
jordan holmes
Are they?
dan friesen
It would be nice if there were another species of alien that ended up, like the humans ended up becoming space-faring as well.
Maybe they'll hold us, but it's not make or break.
jordan holmes
Let me throw this out at you.
Let me throw this out at you because I think it might blow this whole thing wide open.
All right.
Maybe the only reason that all the other races became spacefaring and we didn't is because we're the only ones that invented speculative currency.
unidentified
Whoa.
jordan holmes
So they come here because nobody else knows how to gamble like Americans in the humans race.
dan friesen
Counter argument.
Maybe all of these space-faring races became space-faring only after aliens fought over their monetary systems.
jordan holmes
Right, exactly.
Yes, yes.
That's the catalyzing incident that takes us all to the stars, man.
dan friesen
Who knows?
Who knows?
So there's these aliens that are fighting for control of our banks.
So far, we've got the reptilian Dracos.
We've got the Aldebarons.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
I don't think the Raptors are in play.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, you can't have Raptors without Mark Richards leading the show.
dan friesen
Mark Richards does actually come up later.
jordan holmes
Oh, he does?
dan friesen
Yes.
But she hasn't been to visit him yet.
But he's still a whistleblower.
Yeah, I guess they like chocolate more than money and antiques.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
What do the raptors have to do with the monetary system?
They're going around with Jurassic Park World, you know, like they're having a great time.
dan friesen
So there's other aliens, though.
kerry cassidy
Then there's the Anunnaki that are Pleiadian humanoid reptilian hybrids.
And certainly there can be more.
For example, the beings from Venus, which whether they're Pleiadian or not, or, you know, all go back to Lyra.
So that my understanding is the humanoid races tend to go back, all stem from Lyra, the Lyra system, but they could also have originated in other parts of the multiverse.
unidentified
And that's kind of the definition of the multiverse.
kerry cassidy
And then also there are the beings coming and going from Venus.
So these are the main, from what I can tell, ET races that are trying to control our monetary system and vying for control of Earth.
dan friesen
So I think those are all bad, though, right?
According to her.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, I guess we don't know as much about the Aldeberon aliens from our journeys.
jordan holmes
Well, neither does she.
dan friesen
I know the Draco are bad.
jordan holmes
They are bad.
dan friesen
I know the Anunnaki are bad.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
The Pleiadians are good, though.
dan friesen
Yeah, but the Pleiadian-human hybrid.
Those are the Anunnaki.
jordan holmes
Right.
And then the Greys are always up in the air.
dan friesen
Well, they're snitches.
Yeah.
They work for the Draco.
jordan holmes
They do.
dan friesen
They're the informants.
jordan holmes
They have played both sides in the past.
dan friesen
No, they haven't.
jordan holmes
Yes, they have.
unidentified
Maybe they have.
dan friesen
All this changes from day to day.
I have no idea.
I generally hear of them as being the people who report back to the minions of the Draco.
The reptilians.
jordan holmes
I like our version of Project Camelot.
We've built our own kind of backstory mythology to where now we're like arguing about whether or not Tom Bombadil was in the right spot in fellowship.
dan friesen
There are aliens that are absent from this calculus.
Right.
There are so many different fucking aliens that are just based on animals.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Where are the mantis beings?
Where are the cats?
jordan holmes
We got bugs.
We got the beetle beings.
We got them all up in there.
I mean, when we talk about underwater, Lord knows what's underwater.
dan friesen
There's an octopus somewhere, probably.
jordan holmes
Totally, totally.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know why they aren't coming in to help with this battle for the monetary system.
jordan holmes
I think I love the breadth of answer that you get where you go from, well, you know, I think most humanoids are originally from the Lyra system.
Yeah.
But they could have been from somewhere else in the multiverse.
dan friesen
Yeah, let's call Plan the Field.
jordan holmes
Everywhere.
That's multiples of everywhere.
dan friesen
It's basically saying nothing.
jordan holmes
They could have come from anywhere, man.
Honestly.
It could have been anything.
We don't know.
dan friesen
It's my understanding they come from here, but they could come from literally anywhere else.
jordan holmes
Anywhere.
dan friesen
Awesome.
Thank you.
So now the Aldeberon aliens are important for today.
Sure.
And that's because there's a certain thing that happened at some point.
And it involves an entire continent on planet Earth.
jordan holmes
Did we know about it?
dan friesen
We didn't.
unidentified
Oh, no.
dan friesen
No one knows about this.
kerry cassidy
And I also was in contact with another whistleblower on the same subject that I'm going to talk about here that basically Gordon Duff talked about.
I have, it turns out to be three other very substantial whistleblowers.
One is Captain Mark Richards.
The other is a very longtime contact of Project Camelot.
And the other is this other whistleblower who brought forward important information on the subject.
And the subject is how it's actually based on, there's a movie, and I've talked about this before.
So those of you out there who follow my work might know what I'm talking about.
jordan holmes
So surprised.
kerry cassidy
But it It centers around a television series called The Event, which is actually a depiction of a real situation that we're having here on planet Earth to do with various ET races.
But specifically, the race from Aldeberon.
dan friesen
So the Aldebaran races, it's like the show, The Event.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
So she mentioned Gordon Duff in there.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And this is a guy who writes for Veterans Today.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I think what she's talking about, because she's not specific about this, but in 2013, Gordon Duff published a post on Veterans Today titled, quote, The Little Green Guy Book, which was a guide to various alien races that is very much not a real document or anything other than someone having a good time.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It's not official.
It's not from any government.
It's just a fun book with pictures of what someone thought aliens would look like.
It's like the monster manual.
unidentified
Right.
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
It's the DM's manual.
Gotcha.
dan friesen
My favorite of the races of the aliens in this is the Jeff Ock, the J-E-F-O-K.
Here's what's known about that.
jordan holmes
Oh my God, don't tell me that it's Jeff's.
unidentified
No.
kerry cassidy
Okay.
dan friesen
Everyone's named Jeff.
Quote, their first sighting on Earth dates back to 1500 BC.
They met with JFK three weeks before he was killed.
They also have, around the same time, met with other human world leaders.
They have not been seen on Earth since JFK's time.
They've been coming around since 1500 BC.
JFK died in the world.
jordan holmes
Either they had something to do with it or that was the last straw for them.
You guys are going to kill JFK.
We're out of here.
dan friesen
No, they're noted as peacekeepers.
So they probably wouldn't have been involved in killing JFK.
Or they're probably just like, shit, it's too hot.
They killed a president.
jordan holmes
They're out of here.
We can't keep this piece.
dan friesen
No, they didn't leave after Lincoln for the No War.
jordan holmes
Nope.
No, no, no.
You can kill Lincoln all day.
dan friesen
Right.
Also, strangely U.S. focused.
jordan holmes
Wow, isn't that weird?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's so weird.
dan friesen
So, yeah, anyway, that was part of the impetus for some of the.
I guess maybe the Aldebaran aliens are in that monster manual.
So she has other sources that tell her that the show The Event is real.
jordan holmes
Does it ever occur to these people that it is odd that all of the movies that they are referencing are all in English as though no one else in the world made movies about aliens?
dan friesen
And most of them aren't that good.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
I think I watched the event and I was really disappointed because it was, it was, I have it cataloged in my mind as kind of the same as like Terra Nova or Revolution.
Like these shows that I was like, man, this could be the sweet spot.
And then it just was nothing.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That sort of post-lost desire for someone.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's the sweet spot when everybody was like, there's got to be one central mystery.
dan friesen
I thought Flash Forward had a lot of potential too.
And then I hated it.
And then in the finale, I liked it again.
And then it got canceled.
jordan holmes
And I was pissed off.
Oh, goddammit.
I just come back.
dan friesen
Yeah, they got me again.
jordan holmes
Oh, you bastard.
dan friesen
But yeah, the event is real.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And here's what's going on with the Aldeberons.
kerry cassidy
The story goes that the race from Aldeberon destroyed what I understand to be not just one planet of theirs in their system, but two.
And they got into a situation where they wanted to come to Earth and basically terraform and take over a certain portion of our territory.
And that a negotiation took place so that we could go into outer space and take over certain planetoids or planets where we could establish colonies with their help.
And then at the same time, they would be given a portion of our landmass, which was Africa.
So I know this sounds crazy to go out there, but this is actually something that Gordon Duff talked about on Veterans Today many years ago.
dan friesen
Yep.
So in exchange for help with planet colonies, someone gave Africa to the Aldebaran aliens.
jordan holmes
Who do you ask for Africa?
dan friesen
I don't know if I'm, I don't know if I included a clip of it, but she does point out that some of the smaller countries in Africa were not thrilled with it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, well, yeah.
Well, yeah.
They weren't consulted.
Who gave them?
Who do you go to?
What's the contact info for like, listen, we got this big treaty.
I need some colonies off-world, but I got to say, we want all of China.
No, no, no, we're not doing China, buddy.
This is the earth.
We don't just give China away to anybody.
All right, fine.
We'll take South America.
Oh, whoa, You trying to lowball us?
dan friesen
Yeah, I guess maybe they worked it out with the International Bank of Settlements or something.
And they're like, take Africa.
Very weird.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Very weird.
jordan holmes
Man, but that is such that slight little bit of, you know, you're being racist when you just say they gave them Africa.
You know it.
I know it.
Everybody knows it.
dan friesen
I think some of the themes in this story also reinforce that a little bit.
Okay, that makes it maybe a convenient way to explain away some things of right, right, right, right.
jordan holmes
I don't like the whole continent of Africa because of aliens.
dan friesen
Well, no, it's not so much that, but there are some thoughts that I have.
So anyway, the Aldebarons, they came to secret bases and then went around into Africa.
kerry cassidy
To get back to the Aldebaran story, is this story, as we were told by a whistleblower that has been substantiated again by at least three other substantial sources, including Gordon Duff.
jordan holmes
Who again?
kerry cassidy
Is that the beings from Aldebaran expressed they wanted to come here?
We gave them this landmass.
They have disguised themselves.
They have some kind of ability.
They do look, you know, the normal sort of blonde, blue-eyed, I don't know what you want to call that, humanoid, even you might call them the Nordic type of look, right, of the typical Nazi, but they seem to be able to change their appearance.
And so what they did is they camouflage themselves.
They turn their skin dark, more, you know, like black type, the black races, to blend in with the races of Africa.
dan friesen
So how does that, how does that grab you?
jordan holmes
Wait, hold the fucking phone.
Did she just say that aliens created Rhodesia and then when they got caught, they just turned themselves Al Jilsony?
Is that what's going on here?
dan friesen
I'm not sure, but I do think that there is some connection to like explaining away apartheid.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that has to be.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
There's no way you can have a, well, classic Nazis in Africa not apartheid, right?
dan friesen
Well, I think, I think, let me let me play the next clip because I think that there's some information that comes here that make made me like, made me feel a little bit more along these lines.
kerry cassidy
Okay.
These same bases then became sort of a place, a distribution place, where these races from Aldebaran, these beings who again had, were kind of like refugees from another planet, coming into Africa families, etc.
And then dropped off in South Africa, where this particular whistleblower actually told us that what happened was they began to see all of a sudden that they had populations that they in numbers, that they never knew where they came from and they appeared kind of out of nowhere in the immigration record, I guess.
And then they would take, they would take trains and and leave south Africa and go into the rest of and establish themselves and because they looked like the the, the peoples of Africa, they got under the radar.
dan friesen
I think that by doing this kind of a framing, you're able to explain away all sorts of um, inconvenient things about the history of Africa.
Yeah, for instance, you could um, you know say, in the same way that the anti-communist folks they have, their support of apartheid is based on like oh yeah, Nelson Mandela and all them, that it wasn't about um, you know like, human rights, it's about pushing communism right right right, you know there's that right uh, and it's sort of the same way you could do this.
It's like.
This wasn't like a fight for human rights.
This was the Aldeberons right uh, who are trying to uh overthrow apartheid right right, you know and, and hey, you know, one of the features of apartheid is a very small minority uh is ruling over another majority group by force.
If there's a whole bunch of people that come in, maybe that's why there's a majority uh it's, it's a mess.
jordan holmes
I mean, it does kind of feel like what just happened.
There is she described apartheid and then the end of apartheid being the people who caused apartheid, changing their skin black and disappearing, leaving those poor, innocent white people to deal with the fallout.
dan friesen
I I, I understand where that's coming from.
I get less of that okay, I get more of the Aldebarons came, they camouflaged to appear uh, like the people in Africa okay, so it was so then the.
jordan holmes
So then it was the, the white people who were just fighting back against the Aldebaron, and apartheid was actually great.
dan friesen
Well, it's possible that could be an interpretation right right, or it could be an interpretation that the Aldebaranis uh were just trying to take control of places sure, and so the fight for human rights uh, in places like Zimbabwe and in South Africa, overthrowing those systems, were actually the Aldebarons trying to take control, right?
Things like the remnants of uh the colonialism um, in places like Rwanda.
Sure you could take that as some sort of influence of the uh the Aldebarons right, you know, you can basically take cultural responsibility away from human actors and place a lot of it onto aliens.
jordan holmes
For us, right I I?
dan friesen
I feel like there's a little bit of that.
jordan holmes
What I am hearing is that the root cause is somebody just gave away Africa without letting any enough people know.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's weird.
jordan holmes
That seems way more the problem here.
dan friesen
If that's the case yeah, I also think that there is a very, very strong chance that we are overreading this.
jordan holmes
I think that's our job.
dan friesen
Just trying to grasp at straws to make any of this make sense in the real world.
jordan holmes
I think the thing that blows my mind, though, in her reality is when she keeps saying we, like when she refers to we gave them Africa.
And it's like you're describing a group of humans so powerful they can just give away a continent to aliens without telling anybody they're functionally aliens as well.
dan friesen
Yeah, you can't lump yourself in with that group.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, we're not part of this, man.
No, I don't want none of this on my hands.
dan friesen
So one of the reasons that I associated this a little bit with possible ideas about apartheid is that she said that they came into South Africa.
Yeah.
And the other reason is because there's a potential time frame given in this next clip.
jordan holmes
70s to early 90s.
kerry cassidy
I don't know what the actual number of these beings are.
I do know that it's very possible, but that what they're calling Ebola is actually could be a reaction to or sort of a disinfo campaign to keep people away from the interior of Africa and so to keep these race hidden.
dan friesen
You know, the first case of Ebola was identified in 1976.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Resistance to apartheid was quite strong around that time.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That was when the beginnings, or maybe not the beginnings, but a large push for the overthrowing of the system.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
We're happening.
jordan holmes
Well, the system didn't treat Ebola well when it came to people that were not white.
No.
Yeah.
dan friesen
And also, it's interesting that she's saying that it's to keep people away from Central Africa because there were Ebola outbreaks in Central Africa before, but the most recent one was very much the Atlantic coast in northern Africa, like Sierra Leone.
jordan holmes
I think she's more just saying the center of Africa because that seems like a cooler place to say.
You know, like you're not going to say like the they're keeping people away from the coast.
Well, you can't keep people away from the coast.
You can keep people away from the center.
dan friesen
In fairness, the earlier, some of the earlier outbreaks were more like in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
But like, the other thing, too, is that if she's saying that Ebola is somehow a cover to keep people away so they don't uncover the existence of the Aldebaran aliens, right?
First of all, that's silly.
But second of all, that means that there is a timeframe because that would mean that it can't exist prior to 1976.
jordan holmes
No, it does seem that to be the case.
dan friesen
It has to be 76 onward.
That's the timeframe of this.
So it can't even have to do with Eisenhower allegedly negotiating with aliens.
jordan holmes
No, no.
dan friesen
Because that would have been out of the timeframe.
jordan holmes
This is pure apartheid.
I think so.
I don't think there's any other way.
dan friesen
I can't hear it any other way.
The details are too like.
jordan holmes
In the world that we are talking about.
dan friesen
These places where the aliens came in were the same places that gold was sent to.
jordan holmes
It's so strange.
It's like a couple of people.
But I mean, listen, we're talking about people who have a let's call Eurocentric an understatement towards their outview.
And the idea that they would know anything about Africa beyond apartheid blows my mind.
So I'm going to have to go with that.
dan friesen
I'm not even certain that she does.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's another part of it.
That's also possible.
dan friesen
So Ebola maybe is a false flag campaign to keep people away from Africa so they don't uncover the Aldebarans.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But also there's another possibility.
jordan holmes
Okay.
kerry cassidy
But there's also sort of a catch, which is that although they look human, What is the situation is that, and this is in the movie The Event, which is a series you can watch on the clicks and television series.
You know, it used to be free.
Towards the end, it is revealed that although they're humanoid and or look very human, they actually need a different atmosphere than us and that the exposure of us to them alters our DNA or actually,
you know, can act as a kind of poison to us, which is possibly reflected in a disinfo campaign that they call Ebola.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So if that's the case, then it's even stronger evidence that it has to be 1976 forward.
Because then to the Aldebaran aliens.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
So that puts an even more concrete thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you can't claim it's some sort of ancient Ebola that's come back.
You're saying that Ebola didn't exist, and we know that it only started in 1976.
So that was a disinfo campaign created specifically around a certain purpose.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So that, I don't know.
I don't know what to think here.
jordan holmes
I'm telling you, her sources are probably racists.
dan friesen
And they just know stuff, man.
jordan holmes
They just know stuff.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
If you get near an Aldeberon alien, you may be poisoned or not because it might be a disinfo campaign or it could be Ebola.
dan friesen
Well, but Ebola has to exist.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because Carrie also has some news to drop on you here.
jordan holmes
Wait, so there's also Ebola outside of the disinfo possibility of Ebola.
dan friesen
I think so.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
We know that the COVID was turning people into vampires in China.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Had to bar people in.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
With garlic nails.
But there's also something about the vaccine that is news here.
kerry cassidy
Now, it's well known that Ebola was actually an ingredient or is an ingredient of the vaccus.
So this story that I'm telling now does reflect back into the whole COVID last two years, which is what I've said over and over again, a transhuman agenda with basically collateral damage, where they don't care how many people can't handle the change.
They're trying to change our genome.
dan friesen
So yeah, there's Ebola and the vaccines.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And it is trying to change our genome.
So presumably coming in contact with the Aldebaran aliens would just do this to you.
jordan holmes
You would assume.
dan friesen
Right.
But yes, if you have too much, then you get Ebola.
Yeah.
But if you don't, then it just changes your genome in a way that these Aldebaran aliens want to happen.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And they're sort of collaborating with the New World Order on it.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Because they don't care.
It's all about the transhumanism.
dan friesen
Right, right, right.
And some people will be able to handle it and they can become transhuman and the rest, you know, they may die and who cares?
Unlateral damage, baby.
jordan holmes
I'm going to give you a list of people who have put Ebola inside of a supposed vaccine or thing designed to stop you from getting sick.
Mike Adams.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
End of list.
dan friesen
Well, did he invent the COVID vaccine?
jordan holmes
Maybe.
dan friesen
Yeah, so that's weird.
But I think one of the things you can see is like there's a lot of thematic parallels with Alex.
jordan holmes
Yes, very much.
dan friesen
The end goal being this transhumanism or whatever.
There's a lot of stuff that's very similar.
jordan holmes
I mean, in this context, it's kind of interesting to see the way that a futurism is combined with such an obsessed conservatism as well.
You know, like, oh, look at all these alien races.
The stars are available.
We're signing intergalactic treaties.
Listen, I am not going to get weird.
Okay.
We're going to live the same way we fucking do.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
I'm not going to get a vaccine.
None of my genomes are going to be reactionary.
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
You have to go back to the gold standard.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Yes.
Yes.
Now that I know the vast infinity of the multiverse is available to me, I want to go back to South Africa during apartheid.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's futurism mixed with obsession with the past and reverting back.
jordan holmes
Such a weird, it's a weird, like futuristic civil war reenactment.
dan friesen
It's convoluted.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I think we're fucked if Carrie is right about any of this, because it just seems like too much to fight.
kerry cassidy
There is this ongoing relationship with various ET races that the New World Order is all about controlling.
And they want to control, of course, the secret space program or programs around the world.
And right now, it's centered in the United States, as I've said, with the opposite being China.
And there are a different kind of a yin and yang that is dealing with China, a certain, I think, group of the Draco-Reptilians or Dracos, probably.
And then we understand perhaps the spider beings and a few other type beings that the Chinese are being helped by, that they're being influenced by.
So, and you've got then, then you've got each ET, okay, every ET race that becomes a space-faring race creates an AI.
So then we also have at least four AIs that are influencing Earth, the Earth in circumstances right now that are not negative towards humans.
So that's another thing that we're dealing with on top of our dealings with all these different ET races.
dan friesen
That's too much to deal with.
jordan holmes
Holy shit, man.
So we got these alien races, but really all we're kind of dealing with then is the four AI, though, because they're the ones orchestrating all of this.
dan friesen
Yeah, but you still have spider beings we're going to have to fight at some point.
And then the reptilian Draco.
jordan holmes
We got to negotiate with the AI.
Maybe the AI can help us out.
dan friesen
The Aldebaran are clearly not up to anything.
jordan holmes
They do not have good intentions.
dan friesen
It doesn't seem like it.
jordan holmes
Why is China being influenced by the spider beings?
dan friesen
Because they needed a role.
They haven't been mentioned yet.
jordan holmes
It does feel like this is a cameo.
unidentified
Playing the role of Chinese administrator.
jordan holmes
It's the spider beings.
dan friesen
Yep.
So through the COVID rollout, bioweapon and the vaccine.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Sure.
With the fake and real Ebola.
dan friesen
This is all a plan, right?
In order.
Here's what the plan is.
And it comes back to the Ebola and the vaccine.
jordan holmes
Sort of.
kerry cassidy
Basically, what they're building is an army, an army of beings to fight any incoming threat, especially androids coming from all these other AIs and AI cultures out in the larger solar systems and galaxies.
So we are, this is a, what I call a humanity 3.0 program.
And COVID is very much part of that.
dan friesen
What was 2.0?
jordan holmes
That was the Cybermen from Doctor Who.
So these are androids.
dan friesen
Oh, from the event.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
From Doctor Who, the event.
dan friesen
Right.
Look, I think there's a coherent plan here.
jordan holmes
Is there a coherent plan?
dan friesen
Yes, the COVID vaccine will turn some people into automatons that will mindlessly be able to fight against the incoming cyborgs that alien AI are creating.
Right.
jordan holmes
Explain.
What is it?
What do you think?
Why does everybody think AI cultures are going to be human cultures, but like angry towards us?
dan friesen
What's an AI culture?
jordan holmes
I mean, it's whenever a bunch of AI get together and they like start a band.
dan friesen
International AI settlement.
Yeah, absolutely.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know what any of this is.
I don't know what AI culture is.
Is it AI together or is it a society that's run by an AI?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I think it's both.
I think it's neither.
I think all is possible in the multiverse, buddy.
dan friesen
You really did like that movie.
jordan holmes
I really did.
dan friesen
Yeah, so killing people isn't really the goal necessarily with the COVID.
jordan holmes
Well, there's so many people and AI and aliens.
Why would you even bother killing people?
It's killing, it seems way beyond us at this point.
dan friesen
This is a harsh split from Alex's ideology, where depopulation is the number one goal.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Not so much.
jordan holmes
No.
kerry cassidy
Eliminating populations is not as crucial for them, although they're certainly involved in it.
And the Chinese, very specifically.
In fact, Mark Richards told me two years ago before this whole thing started that he had gotten word that the Chinese had decided they needed to get rid of at least 500 million or more of their own people.
And they are still, as you see, you know, doing lockdowns, probably spraying their people with more versions of the bioweapon, making sure that more and more people die and don't just get transformed into this cybernetic type army.
So we have that going on.
dan friesen
We got that going on.
jordan holmes
That's so mind-bogglingly evil.
And she just described it in such a banal way.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Like, oh, so what they're obviously doing is spraying people with murder juice.
dan friesen
China is trying to bring down their population, whereas the rest of the world is trying to create cybernetic armies to fight cyborgs.
jordan holmes
Of course.
It seems like Mark Richards has his hand on the pulse of global affairs.
dan friesen
Also, if Mark told her about this before, man.
jordan holmes
What has she been doing for the past seven years?
unidentified
Someone should have warned people.
She could have sent a text somebody.
dan friesen
So the thing with the vaccine, it's kind of unclear if the Ebola is the same thing as the graphene oxide that she's very scared of about this vaccine.
But the graphene oxide is apparently the same as the black goo, right?
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And so there was this guy who was a researcher in the paranormal world and what have you, a guy named Max Spears.
And he died a few years back.
And Carrie believes that he was killed by the black goo.
jordan holmes
He's killed by the black goo.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Here is a little bit of her inside information that she has about the case.
jordan holmes
I got it.
kerry cassidy
What happened to Max Spears and his death when he went to Cyprus then came back and was dying?
I was actually on the phone with one individual that was on the site there at the time.
Apparently, Max was dying in the other room.
They were trying to call some help.
Then doctors came but couldn't do anything.
They left and eventually they came back to take the body away and they didn't allow them to take that body away.
Instead, they spent several days trying to reanimate him and possibly doing a lot of black magic research around that.
And what he was dying of appears to have been a COVID infestation or takeover of his body because there was black stuff coming out of various, you know, his eyes and so on and so forth.
dan friesen
Yeah, so it was probably a COVID infestation manifested by the black goo.
jordan holmes
Right, Okay.
dan friesen
And they tried to reanimate him for a few days.
jordan holmes
Man, I always forget that magic is also real.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Doing arcane original.
That one got, I'm like, oh, yeah, we're in space.
We're doing all the space stuff.
And they were also doing black magic to reanimate his body.
What?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Why can't white?
unidentified
They can travel through stars, but we're still fucking cauldrons.
jordan holmes
We got ingredients.
unidentified
Oh, please come back to life, young boy.
dan friesen
To what end?
jordan holmes
That's not important.
Don't ask for motive.
Motive is a bad road to go down.
dan friesen
Doesn't seem important.
jordan holmes
Because he's got goo.
He's got all that fucking goo, man.
dan friesen
Right.
This has been long, long predated COVID.
So I guess the way around that is the black goo is COVID.
So COVID's been around forever.
Right.
Or something.
jordan holmes
Which means Steve Pieczenik cured himself of the black goo.
dan friesen
Yes, that is true.
jordan holmes
That is possible.
dan friesen
Now it gets his antibiotics.
jordan holmes
All it takes is antibiotics.
dan friesen
Also, like every oil wreck is like black goo.
Because it looks like black goo.
jordan holmes
Because it's got black goo.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know, what else do you need?
dan friesen
She does actually talk about that, how it's like the one big oil spill was like the black goo eating through the bottom of a boat.
jordan holmes
Oh my God.
So funny.
dan friesen
It's, yeah.
But hey, here's the good news.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
There are multiple goo's.
unidentified
Oh, well, of course.
jordan holmes
There's so many gooes.
There's the gray goo.
That's the nanobots, right?
The gray goo where everybody turns into the nano goots.
dan friesen
That's bad too.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's super bad.
dan friesen
But look, there's positive goos.
Yeah.
And also, like that last clip, you know, obviously one of Lovecraft's books is Herbert West Reanimator.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
And this also gets a little bit Lovecraft.
Okay.
There's a Cthulhu virus.
jordan holmes
Okay.
kerry cassidy
alec newworld is uh sort of an e.t contactee with these blue aliens i believe he was living in nice As far as I remember, I thought it was New Zealand, but I read his books many years ago.
And he talks about an ET race.
I'm not sure if it's the same race or whether the race just revealed the information, but they were aware of this negative level of black goo that is, again, AI that was put here by an E.T. race to be activated at a certain point in our history, which obviously has happened by now and happened beginning in the Falklands.
And that there is, so this is embedded in the earth under the oceans.
jordan holmes
What is?
kerry cassidy
You know, and was always going to wake up and start to infiltrate our planet.
jordan holmes
Obviously.
kerry cassidy
Then supposedly there's another ET race that is trying to stop it, but it's obviously not being very successful at the moment.
And then there is a version of that black goo or oil type substance that is supposedly even deeper in the earth that is positive.
jordan holmes
Oh, oh, that's nice.
So we got a layer.
kerry cassidy
So we got us.
jordan holmes
All right.
Then we got the Earth's crust.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Then we got the mantle.
Then we got black goo.
Right.
dan friesen
And what is dead may never die.
Strange feeling that death may die.
Yes.
In its house in Relier, the black goo lays dreaming.
jordan holmes
And then a few layers below that, right above the core, we've got the good goo.
dan friesen
Good goo.
jordan holmes
Good goo.
unidentified
Who's also apparently ready and waiting for us?
jordan holmes
When we need the good goo, it'll pop out at any moment.
And these other people trying to stop the black goo, they suck at their job.
dan friesen
They're not doing that.
That's the review.
These other aliens are not doing that.
jordan holmes
That is her review of other aliens we've not met before.
We probably met.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Obviously, they suck at their jobs.
dan friesen
I feel powerless to do anything in her world.
jordan holmes
Get a shovel.
We can get down to that goo.
dan friesen
I don't think so.
I think you need more than a shovel.
And you're going to have to get through the other bad goo first.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
You know, that is true.
There's no way you're going to get to the good goo.
jordan holmes
No, that's so far deep.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It gets hot down there.
dan friesen
If any of this is true, just live your life.
jordan holmes
Who cares?
unidentified
Just move on.
dan friesen
Why are you even caring?
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That is so, it is fun.
dan friesen
If any of this is true, write a book.
jordan holmes
Why would you be afraid?
dan friesen
If any of this is a science fiction book based on what you know to be true and then make some money and live your life.
jordan holmes
Just move on.
dan friesen
Yeah, because you're not going to be able to make any difference in the world of various goos.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it almost is almost paralyzing and yet at the same time comforting of being like, if I lived in this universe that she says we inhabit, what would I be afraid of?
Like, everything could kill me.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Right now, everything could kill me.
dan friesen
You know, outside my window, there's a tree.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
It's a tree being.
jordan holmes
It's a tree being, right?
You know, like, there's anything people could be doing a black magic spell on me right now.
And I wouldn't.
dan friesen
They probably are.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally.
So why would you be afraid?
You've just got black magic and shit flying around.
There's goos fighting.
dan friesen
Everybody send Jordan tweets about the black magic rituals you're doing against him.
Yeah, it's silly.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we end this update on the world with a couple of clips about some figures in the media.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
The first is Vladimir Putin.
jordan holmes
Oh.
How's he doing with his alien buddies?
dan friesen
We got some updates.
kerry cassidy
Uh-oh.
I know that Russia is working with us in the secret space program regardless of how it looks on the surface earth.
The Russians are also working with a certain set group of ETs that apparently are more positive than they used to be.
And that this version of how Putin, who is, in essence, a clone, is not the original Putin.
And it's a much more positive-oriented being and is working with Trump and the White Hats behind the scenes.
And we're going to see where that all leads.
dan friesen
It's not leading anywhere good right now.
Also, I think that you just proved Russian collusion.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't know.
Go back to space.
Go back to space.
We don't need you down here on Earth telling us that Putin's a clone.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's actually good.
dan friesen
If the fruits of positive aliens are the war in Ukraine, I'm not interested in positive aliens.
jordan holmes
We once again go back full circle.
Clearly, the Draco and the reptilians are good because Mark Richards hates them.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, the Raptors are bad because March Reitzers like well, obviously, like she believes that the COVID stuff is a bioweapon and the black goo and all this, and that there are bio labs in Ukraine that Russia is actually going after and attacking.
So that's how she can rationalize it.
It's a positive thing.
But I mean, the reality of what she's justifying through fantasy is outrageous.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is fucked.
That's one of those where I do feel like she's got that moment of where it's like, either I can wrestle with what I've accidentally walked my space ass into supporting fucking Putin and deal with that.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
Or I go all the way.
dan friesen
Yeah, we need a painfully elaborate conspiracy to make this going to go so hard.
Speaking of that, here is her thoughts on Elon Musk.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
kerry cassidy
Now, I'm not sure if I've mentioned, but Elon Musk is, okay, so I have my own take on him and my understanding.
What I was seeing was a cyborg.
I believe he's run by a good set of whether it's an AI or a group of ETs, I don't know.
But for the most part, he seems fairly positively oriented.
But he did grow up and was totally backed by our secret space program during the time when it was completely run and dominated by the New World Order.
So he has been positioned purposely to be playing his role that he's playing now.
Whether he's turned against his sort of operators or whether he is actually fulfilling a role that they prefer he play and where that might lead, I don't know.
dan friesen
Yeah, so he's a cyborg, man.
jordan holmes
Wow.
Because I would have said that he is the avatar of American white male failure being rewarded as the richest man in the world.
Cyborg.
Yeah.
Well, one of the two.
If you were creating something in the lab to more accurately reflect back on America, every failure that it's ever made and what it looks like, that would be Elon Musk.
dan friesen
Well, I think painting him as a cyborg that's under the control of some hyper-powerful alien or AI kind of gets you around having to explain some of his behavior, some of his past.
All that stuff is kind of like, well, he's not, you know.
jordan holmes
We can still.
dan friesen
He's under control of aliens.
He's a cyborg.
jordan holmes
I do appreciate the absurd willingness to bend your back over to make a monster seem okay to you.
dan friesen
That's that's like that's what a lot of this is.
jordan holmes
I mean, Mark Richards, yeah, that's that's amazing.
That's loyalty.
You know, I don't, I, I, I, Dan, I'm just gonna say this right now.
If you were like, hey, I'm gonna lead to the deaths of thousands, if not millions of people, I'd be like, Dan, I don't think we can be friends anymore.
I'm not gonna explain away your behavior.
dan friesen
Jordan, I'm gonna buy Twitter.
Shit!
jordan holmes
We're not friends anymore!
dan friesen
Fair enough.
Okay.
So what if Musk takes us to Mars, though?
jordan holmes
Would that be cool?
Can we leave him there?
Maybe.
kerry cassidy
I don't know how aware Elon is of what he actually is or not.
So I don't, I don't, you know, I'm not trying to insult him, but this is what, you know, you can't help what you see.
So then on top of it, someone wrote to me and said that there was a book written, I don't know if they said 100 years ago or whenever it was, that depicted a character called Elon who would eventually be made president of Mars.
And so I don't have a copy of that book, but this is what I heard.
You can investigate and see if you can find it.
That's quite fascinating.
dan friesen
So Carrie clearly hasn't looked into this at all, because if she had, she'd have a much better conspiracy about it.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
That book is called Project Mars, and it was written, published, as it were, in 1953.
It was written by Nazi rocket scientist Werner von Braun.
unidentified
Ooh.
dan friesen
She could add that in.
That would be an extra part that would be add to the conspiracy.
jordan holmes
Wait, so Werner von Braun essentially used his imagination to pull Elon Musk from the multiverse and inflicted him upon us here.
That's what you're telling me, right?
dan friesen
He wrote a book that is.
I read some parts of it.
I wouldn't say it's good sci-fi.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
It's maybe sci-fi written by a Nazi rocket scientist.
jordan holmes
Mako Shaker.
unidentified
Not that bad.
jordan holmes
Not that bad.
dan friesen
But in the book, the person who takes humans to Mars isn't named Elon.
The office of the presidency in the Martian government is called the Elon.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So the level of information that Carrie has on this topic is basically just what you'd get from seeing a meme or something.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
That's good enough.
Why look into it?
Because if you sincerely believe this meant something, wouldn't you have read the book?
Wouldn't you have like figure, you'd know damn well what the name of the book was, who wrote it, what the connection to Elon is.
Because if you believe it has a meaning, it would help you understand what's happening in the present day.
Because there would be other information.
It's not like that one piece of trivia is the only thing that's important there, right?
jordan holmes
Right, right.
So what you're saying is that if you heard through maybe third or fourth hand that a prophecy might have existed in a book that may exist.
unidentified
And it was written by Werner von Braun about Elon.
jordan holmes
Then you would go like, oh, I should read that book.
dan friesen
Oh, and guess what?
Kerry also believes that the Nazis could time travel.
jordan holmes
Yep, that would make perfection.
Yeah, no, no, no.
I mean, this actually, I'm starting to believe in this conspiracy theory.
If the Nazis could go back in time, then the rockets and then the Elon.
It all makes sense.
dan friesen
I mean, there are pieces of something.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Instead of just being like, hey, I heard there was a prophecy that Elon's going to be president of Mars.
Fun.
Isn't that interesting?
unidentified
Cool.
jordan holmes
All right, let's just move forward with that.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think that one of the reasons that people like Carrie don't learn more about the things that they're like, they see, like this, is because if you learn more it's less fun.
Yeah oh yeah, but in this case it's actually more fun, because then you'd learn it was Von Braun right, you have all kinds of fun with that right right right, this is very much.
jordan holmes
This has got to be a learned behavior.
That is is so much for.
For you and I, it would be like putting our hand on the on the burner, on the proverbial burner, you know.
Ah, I got burned.
I'm not gonna do that again.
Every time they look into stuff, they get disappointed by reality.
dan friesen
I mean, it must have happened a couple times.
And then you learn like, don't dig too much, just don't dig too much.
I mean, like this show really is a manifestation of what happens when you take claims and then you try and explore them past the surface level of the headlines that Alex reads yeah, and you see the results of it.
Yeah uh, it doesn't bend towards uh Alex, being right about stuff no, and I think that on some level, subconscious or otherwise, people like Carry probably have that intuition too.
Yeah yeah, that like best not to actually try and confirm things totally.
Instead, let's take our information from a murderer who makes stuff up right, uh.
Let's take our information from weird uh, monster manuals that a guy right at the Veterans today posts, yeah, this is totally.
jordan holmes
They're not aware of it, it's just skinnerism, like the, the level of like i've just, if I don't look things good, happen.
If I do look things bad happen, and that's that they'd ever have to be aware of that.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think there's probably something to that.
Yeah yeah, so anyway um wow, what a, what an adventure.
I think I think uh, you know, obviously we've missed some of the alien talk and i'm glad that there was a little bit of it.
Um, i'm terrified to learn that Africa is under the control of the Aldebarons.
This is big news.
I think that's earth-shattering news.
jordan holmes
I mean, well, I mean, it's at least one-seventh of Earth being shattered.
dan friesen
Well, but I mean, how does that affect how we would go about our lives?
jordan holmes
Just knowing that, I mean, the fact that somebody, and not somebody, I mean, I'm not talking about specifically like a person, although I assume it could be a person in this cosmology, could just be like, okay, Aldebarans, you guys are dope.
You get Africa.
dan friesen
But you got to help us with space columns.
jordan holmes
Totally.
But I mean, like, you can't just say you get Africa.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Who did that?
dan friesen
The fact that somebody, yeah, somebody conceivably has that power is earth-shattering.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
That needs to be explored.
dan friesen
The idea that the Chinese are working with spider beings is troubling, if true.
jordan holmes
For sure.
I mean, not because we're anti-spider.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
No, no.
We know we are into the spider leadership.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
You have a shirt.
jordan holmes
I have got a shirt.
unidentified
We're not anti-spider here.
dan friesen
They're helpful.
They eat bugs around the house.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we're anti-beetle.
If I remember the Vietnamese people.
dan friesen
They were in Vietnam.
Vietnam was us fighting beetles.
jordan holmes
It's just a quagmire.
dan friesen
And every now and again, beetles come through portals and try and eat people.
So that's why there are wildfires and things like that in order to cover up for the Beatles in Iraq one time.
Yes.
And that's why there was bombs to close the Stargates.
jordan holmes
That's right.
It's the Stargates.
dan friesen
And I think that they wanted to steal antiques and stuff too, like relics.
jordan holmes
See, this is what COVID really took away from us.
All of our good conspiracies are now just like, oh, there's Ebola.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think the world is so bad in many ways that the fun elements of this space conspiracy stuff, it kind of robbed.
We're deprived of it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think, you know, we're all just too emotionally charged about everything all the time, you know?
Like, she can't enjoy these conspiracies.
She's too mad because we're being murdered by Ebola aliens or whatever, you know?
dan friesen
That's a piece of it.
And I think the other piece of it, too, is that the phenomenon of Trump brought in so much conspiracism to politics that that overlap is ruining conspiracism.
It ruins.
Along with politics.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It turns both of them worse.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Conspiracies are more boring and politics is more destructive.
dan friesen
Well, at least there used to be like political conspiracy, and you had like JFK assassination and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Yes, yeah.
dan friesen
And then you had stuff that maybe was tertiarily involved with politics, but had lived in a different space.
jordan holmes
And the real crazies would combine the two and they'd be like, oh, aliens killed JFK.
And you'd be like, well, now we know we don't have to worry about you, sir.
dan friesen
And there'd be less of that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The new age-y conspiracy stuff.
And then they're all just singularly.
It's filtered all towards QAnon stuff.
And blah.
jordan holmes
Now it's all one.
dan friesen
But anyway, we got a little bit of a taste of the old days.
Oh, we did.
And much needed.
jordan holmes
Delicious.
dan friesen
So we'll be back, Jordan, for probably a present day episode on Monday.
jordan holmes
Indeed, we will.
dan friesen
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
Tad Knowledge underscore Fight and I Go to Bed Jordan.
dan friesen
Ah, that thing in my eye is back.
It's not.
I'm just joking.
Not a good joke.
Callback.
At least.
Anyway, we'll be back.
jordan holmes
Leading callback.
dan friesen
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
DZX Clark.
I hope you all have a dreamy, creamy summer.
jordan holmes
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your work.
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