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May 27, 2022 - Knowledge Fight
01:09:06
#686: Continental Negotiations

Today, Dan and Jordan take a little space breaky from Alex Jones to learn about what is going on in the world from a slightly different perspective.

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dan friesen
29:17
j
jordan holmes
19:39
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kerry cassidy
16:24
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alex jones
01:42
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steve quayle
00:02
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Knowledge Fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge Fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan, knowledge.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
Oh, I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today, buddy?
dan friesen
My bright spot?
Oh, God, something in my eye.
jordan holmes
Oh, God, something in your eye.
dan friesen
Oh, that's not my bright spot.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
Oh, Nelly.
All right, I'm okay.
I can blink through this.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
Are you okay?
dan friesen
Yeah, I'll be all right.
My bright spot, Jordan, is this new chair you got me.
I got a new chair, a new office desk chair for my birthday that just arrived.
I'm excited.
It's in the box still.
I have not unpacked it, but it is a bright spot because I spend quite a bit of time at the office, let's say.
And so my chair is...
Quite destroyed.
jordan holmes
As I look at it, it is a nightmare.
dan friesen
We have this armrest coming apart.
jordan holmes
I mean, the 45 degree angle is just absurd.
dan friesen
It's not good.
I favor my left side when I lean.
And it leads to...
I can only imagine what's going on with my spine.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No, no.
You're sitting in a stretchy beanbag chair.
That's insane.
dan friesen
So yeah, I'm excited to get that new chair out, build it up, and hopefully feel a little bit better sitting.
jordan holmes
I'm telling you what, man.
Lower back, it's better.
dan friesen
Nice.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Well, thank you, Jordan.
I appreciate that.
unidentified
You're very welcome.
dan friesen
Quite a nice gift.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is everything, everywhere, all at once.
The movie.
Finally saw it.
Fucking as good as they say.
dan friesen
That's what I've heard.
jordan holmes
It's fantastic.
dan friesen
I've heard people say it's good, and then I've heard other people say it's as good as people say.
jordan holmes
It's as good as people say, but it's also really, really great.
dan friesen
Nice.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Michelle Yeoh, incredible.
Just incredible.
dan friesen
I'll check it out eventually.
That is definitely one that's like, you know, I don't see a lot of movies, but it's on the short list of ones that I need to get around to.
jordan holmes
It's very worth seeing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Well, great.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
I'm glad you enjoyed it.
jordan holmes
Bright spots achieved!
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we come to the show in a little bit of a difficult position.
Yeah.
Because of current news with the school shooting in Texas.
Yep.
I made a bit of an executive decision, and that is that we're not going to be talking about Alex and his coverage of that until at least Monday, because it's difficult to say exactly, or to put this into words, but I feel like there are sort of two primary objectives of the show,
and one is to analyze and deconstruct the I don't feel like there is such a rush.
to get to this, that it overcomes the sort of difficulty that people are feeling and how it would be exacerbated by listening to Alex's horrible bullshit about it.
Yep.
unidentified
So we're going to put that on the back burner, but we will eventually cover his immediate response.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's nice that you can make executive decisions unilaterally, mainly just because my opinion is so predictable.
You didn't really need to bring that to me.
We didn't need to discuss it.
dan friesen
I think we've had conversations about similar things in the past.
There is not really a pressing news cycle for us necessarily.
We can allow things to be until...
One aspect of it is the emotional heat and the charge of it at the moment.
And then the second is, I think this case in particular has really illustrated The difficulty of nailing down facts in the immediate.
jordan holmes
Every hour it seems like there's a new piece of information.
Every hour it seems like there's something somebody has not been completely honest about or any number of...
Difficult details that we should not be grappling with until we have the totality of them.
Because that's our show.
dan friesen
Getting a handle on things is pretty difficult while a lot of information is shifting around.
People are...
Still trying to figure out what's going on.
jordan holmes
In short, we don't fuck with the wet cement.
That's not our thing.
dan friesen
It doesn't help.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
So, we'll have a different episode today.
But first, let's say hello to some new folks who are wonks.
Oh, that's a great idea.
So first, Nicked Nonk, Policy Wonk, Alex's Dog is Bones.
Thank you so much.
You are now Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a Policy Wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Next, Wally C. Punk.
Thank you so much.
You are now Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Next, Darian.
This is from Emma.
Happy birthday.
This actually is a little bit late.
Your birthday was on the 19th, but I hope you had a good one.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Happy birthday!
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
And the 19th is a lot sooner than we're used to.
That's great.
dan friesen
That's true.
That's like a week.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Next, Nico couldn't think of anything funny to say.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Next, non-dairy.
Call it a sorbet.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
What about a sherbet?
jordan holmes
That reminds me of...
dan friesen
Sherbert.
jordan holmes
Me and...
unidentified
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
That's good stuff.
I was Jack Baker's old lactose intolerance joke.
dan friesen
Sure, sure.
jordan holmes
He had the closer, and I can't remember his line for it.
He did it once, and it got a bigger laugh, and then he kept doing it and made fun of me for giving him the bigger laugh tag, and he got so mad, and to this day, I will lord it over him for as long as I live.
dan friesen
See, anytime I hear sorbet or anything, I think of Danny Callis' joke about sherbet.
jordan holmes
Sherbet!
alex jones
It's not sherbert!
dan friesen
Did you know that?
jordan holmes
It ain't sherbert!
dan friesen
Ah, good times.
jordan holmes
Ah, great stuff.
dan friesen
Comedians and most of the people in the audience have no idea.
jordan holmes
This was a lot more fun when it was only like 50 people in Chicago.
dan friesen
You don't even have to explain the reference.
Also, Jordan, we've got a technocrat in the mix.
So, thank you so much, too.
Don't be meddling with my peddling.
Don't be roaming where I'm adrenochroming.
Don't be screaming when I'm dreamily creaming.
This is bordering on new world ordering.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
I have risen above my enemies.
I might quit tomorrow, actually.
I'm just going to take a little breaky now.
A little breaky for me.
And then we're going to come back, and I'm going to start the show over.
But I'm the devil!
I've got to be taken off the air!
unidentified
Fuck you!
alex jones
Fuck you!
I've got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your New World Order, and fuck the horse you rode in on, and all your shit!
Maybe today should be my last broadcast.
Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.
Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow, and you never see me again.
That's really what I want to do.
I never want to come back here again.
I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air.
I'll be better tomorrow.
dan friesen
He's not, but we'll never know.
jordan holmes
We will never know.
dan friesen
Well, we'll know later, but not today.
unidentified
Indeed.
dan friesen
Because we're doing something a little bit different today.
And, Jordan, there's only one way that we can start this bad boy off.
kerry cassidy
Hi, everyone.
I'm Carrie Cassidy.
And I am here today to do sort of an overview of quite a few things.
And so hopefully this is going to work out and it's going to all make sense.
dan friesen
You didn't say hi.
unidentified
That's because I was too excited.
jordan holmes
I didn't expect to see.
dan friesen
You didn't return the hello.
jordan holmes
I didn't expect her.
kerry cassidy
I didn't expect her.
jordan holmes
It's been so long.
dan friesen
It has.
jordan holmes
It's been so long since we've talked to Carrie.
dan friesen
It has been a long time since we've checked in with Project Camelotland and sweary Carrie Cassidy.
unidentified
Indeed.
dan friesen
And one of the reasons is I'll periodically watch her updates that she does.
She does a thing where she's looking at the camera and breaking down the news.
And so much of it has just been QAnon and COVID conspiracy.
It's like, where is the space?
Where are the aliens?
jordan holmes
That's what we're here for.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Dog traders.
That's what we're about.
dan friesen
Well, traders like mercantiles.
jordan holmes
Yes, traders.
Miners, not minors.
dan friesen
Yes, yes, yes.
It's not dogs who have turned their back on the team that they were on.
jordan holmes
Dogs don't do that.
dan friesen
No, they're very loyal.
But today, she had an update within the last week or so, and we have an update on the world, and I am thrilled to report that we are back to aliens.
Aliens are in play.
unidentified
Yes!
dan friesen
And there is major news.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit!
unidentified
Finally!
dan friesen
Well, it's actually not news, because it's something that...
Conceivably has to have been going on since the 70s, but it's news to us.
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
So here's where we start off with some of these storylines, and it has to do with a city in Switzerland.
kerry cassidy
First of all, what I want to talk about is the role of Basel, Switzerland, and the control of what is called the right to issue.
And why it's centered in Basel, Switzerland.
And as far as I can tell, there's very little talk about this, at least in the circles that I pay attention to.
And I'm always gathering more and more information.
So I have a whistleblower on the subject who is...
Very well versed and trained as part of this monetary system that we've had that involves Wall Street, stocks, and all kinds of things.
dan friesen
Wall Street and stocks.
jordan holmes
Wall Street and stocks and aliens in Switzerland.
Hell yeah.
dan friesen
So Basel is a city in Switzerland that's home to the Bank for International Settlements.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And that's what's going on here.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
The Bank of International Settlements is...
unidentified
This.
dan friesen
What?
Yeah, that is the abbreviation.
It's like the central banks of the world can meet and sort out issues.
jordan holmes
It's the Bank of Banks.
dan friesen
Somewhat, yes.
But the notion of what Kerry is getting into is like, the Bank of International Settlements directly controls all issuance of currency.
Yes, of course.
That's not accurate.
jordan holmes
No, it's the Bank of Banks.
All the banks go there to discuss what to do with their bank banks.
dan friesen
So, this all comes from a pamphlet called The Right to Issue, written by a guy named William Calder, which has mostly been reported on by the raving anti-Semite and friend of Leo Zagami, Henry Macau.
The idea is that there's this group called the Sabbateans who pretended to be Jewish people but are actually evil.
And these people are the ones who are controlling all the banks and trying to destroy Western civilization and the world.
unidentified
There we go.
dan friesen
More or less, it's an interesting workaround where folks who want to maintain all the ideology of hardcore neo-Nazism can do that while pretending that they don't hate Jewish people so they can feel better about themselves.
David Icke has spread some of these ideas on Alex's show in the past few years and actually is quite a big proponent of this Sabatean conspiracy idea.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I'm not particularly interested in what Carrie has to say about this stuff in terms of finances and shit.
I just want to point it out because the words are going to come out later.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The Basel, Switzerland, and what have you.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Also, it's fun to highlight another instance of Carrie spreading pretty explicitly.
Crypto-anti-Semitic shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, that is a turn I did not expect them to take whenever it's like, hey, you know, guys, anti-Semitism is wrong.
I didn't expect them to just be like, aha!
Now, what if we just say they weren't actually Jews?
Ah!
That's a little twist.
dan friesen
You see sort of wrinkles and kernels of this in a lot of places, like with Ben Shapiro calling Jewish people who vote Democrat, like, Jewish in name only.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
You know, that kind of stuff.
jordan holmes
Listen, we know we can't openly hate the Jews yet.
But we got to get it out somehow, man.
It's just in us.
dan friesen
So Carrie has a whistleblower on this subject.
jordan holmes
Of course she does.
kerry cassidy
So I have a whistleblower on the subject who is very well versed and trained as part of this monetary system that we've had that involves Wall Street, stocks, and all kinds of things.
They have had training in this area and they have recently communicated to me that there's, I believe they said 10,000 acres where there are a certain group of families.
jordan holmes
Come on now.
kerry cassidy
I got a download as to the various ET races that are interacting.
jordan holmes
Bring it home.
kerry cassidy
And controlling the monetary system on earth recently.
And so I wanted to wrap that into that understanding of The right to issue...
dan friesen
So 10,000 acres is approximately twice the size of the entire city of Basel in Switzerland?
jordan holmes
That's pretty big.
dan friesen
And the city isn't just the Bank of International Settlements.
It's Switzerland's third most populated city.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a big city.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's a big city.
dan friesen
Well, for Switzerland...
jordan holmes
Sure!
dan friesen
You know?
And actually, someone famous was born there.
jordan holmes
Uh, Basel?
dan friesen
No.
You don't know who it is?
jordan holmes
Basel, Switzerland?
You should know.
I should know.
It's somebody who was a writer and who did the things.
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
Who is it?
dan friesen
Roger Federer.
jordan holmes
Was it?
dan friesen
Yep.
kerry cassidy
No shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, your boy.
Your boy Federer.
jordan holmes
I didn't know where anybody's born.
dan friesen
Because you love tennis.
jordan holmes
Well, sure, but I don't love people being born.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
So...
At this 10,000 acres or whatever, there's like the control of the banks that's going on.
And aliens are really interested.
jordan holmes
Okay, of course.
kerry cassidy
There's a group of ET races that seem to be vying for control and keeping control over the monetary system.
So first of all, there are the reptilian Dracos.
So I put them more or less in the same bucket.
jordan holmes
For sure.
kerry cassidy
And the grays out there, the various gray races report to the reptilians and the Draco.
And then we've got those beings from Aldebaran that are, from what I understand, humanoid and might actually be reptilian-humanoid hybrids.
jordan holmes
Okay, wait.
So they've got their own planet of reptilian-humanoid hybrids?
Yes.
Aldebaran.
dan friesen
Yes.
I only correct you because they will factor heavily into this conversation.
jordan holmes
Yes, I believe that.
I want to get it right.
Aldebaran is ostensibly, based on what Carrie is telling us, an entire system devoted to when the Draco reptilians and the humanoids got together and made a hybrid race, and they just gave them a planet, and were like, stay on Aldebaran.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Because that's kind of what I'm hearing.
dan friesen
There's not concrete details here, but yes, maybe.
Who knows?
So one of the things that I was thinking about is this is such a manifestation of weird narcissism to imagine that multiple alien groups are fighting with each other over our banking system.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Why would they care?
jordan holmes
No, okay.
So listen.
All right.
You have traveled several thousand light years.
Maybe even a million light years.
And you are like, shit!
The franc is not stable enough for me to invest in right now.
I'm gonna have to go to the euro.
dan friesen
As go the euro, so goes the universe.
jordan holmes
So goes the universe.
dan friesen
I feel like if there are these...
Let's say, spacefaring groups of aliens.
They shouldn't give a fuck if we end up destroying ourselves.
unidentified
Are they?
dan friesen
It would be nice if there were another species of alien that ended up, like the humans ended up becoming spacefaring as well.
Maybe that would hold on, but it's not make or break.
jordan holmes
Let me throw this out at you.
Let me throw this out at you because I think it might blow this whole thing wide open.
All right?
Maybe.
The only reason that all the other races became spacefaring and we didn't is because we're the only ones that invented speculative currency.
dan friesen
Whoa.
jordan holmes
So they come here because nobody else knows how to gamble like Americans and the humans race.
dan friesen
Counter-argument.
Maybe.
All of these spacefaring races became spacefaring only after aliens fought over their monetary system.
jordan holmes
Right, exactly!
Yes, yes.
That's the catalyzing incident that takes us all to the stars, man.
dan friesen
Who knows?
Who knows?
So, there's these aliens that are fighting for control of our banks.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
So far, we've got the reptilian Dracos.
We've got the Aldebarons.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
I don't think the raptors are in play.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, you can't have raptors without Mark Richards leading the show.
dan friesen
Mark Richards does actually come up later.
jordan holmes
Oh, he does?
dan friesen
Yes.
But she hasn't been to visit him yet, but he's still a whistleblower.
Yeah, I guess...
They like chocolate more than money.
And antiques.
jordan holmes
What do the raptors have to do with the monetary system?
They're going around with Jurassic Park World.
They're having a great time.
dan friesen
So there's other aliens, though.
kerry cassidy
Then there's the Anunnaki that are Pleiadian-humanoid reptilian hybrids.
And certainly there can be more.
For example, the beings from Venus, which whether they're Pleiadian or not, all go back to Lyra.
jordan holmes
What?
kerry cassidy
My understanding is the humanoid races tend to go back all stem from Lyra, the Lyra system, but they could also have originated in other parts of the multiverse.
unidentified
That's kind of the definition of the multiverse.
kerry cassidy
Also, there are the beings coming and going from Venus.
So these are the main, from what I can tell, ET races that are trying to control our monetary system and vying for control of Earth.
dan friesen
So I think those are all bad, though, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
According to her?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, I guess we don't know as much about the Aldebaran aliens from our journeys.
jordan holmes
Well, neither does she.
dan friesen
I know the Draco are bad.
jordan holmes
They are bad.
dan friesen
I know the Anunnaki are bad.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
The Pleiadians are good, though.
dan friesen
Yeah, but the Pleiadian-human hybrid, Draco, whatever.
But that's the Anunnaki.
jordan holmes
Right.
And then the Greys are always up in the air.
dan friesen
Well, they're snitches.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They work for the Draco.
jordan holmes
They do.
dan friesen
They're the informants.
jordan holmes
They have played both sides in the past.
dan friesen
No, they haven't.
jordan holmes
Yes, they have.
dan friesen
Maybe they have.
jordan holmes
I don't remember.
dan friesen
All this changes from day to day.
I have no idea.
I generally hear of them as being the people who report back to the minions of the Draco.
The reptilians.
jordan holmes
I like it.
Our version of Project Camelot, we've built our own kind of backstory mythology to where now we're arguing about whether or not Tom Bombadil was in the right spot in Fellowship.
dan friesen
There are aliens that are absent from this calculus.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
There are so many different...
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Fucking aliens that are just based on animals.
Where are the mantis beings?
Where are the cats?
jordan holmes
We got bugs.
We got the beetle beings.
We got them all up in there.
I mean, when we talk about underwater, Lord knows what's under there.
dan friesen
There's an octopus somewhere, probably.
jordan holmes
Totally, totally.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know why they aren't coming in to help with this battle for the monetary system.
jordan holmes
I think I love the breadth of answer that you get where you go from.
Well, you know, I think most humanoids are originally from the Lyra system, but they could have been from somewhere else in the multiverse.
Yeah, man.
dan friesen
That's called play in the field.
That's everywhere.
jordan holmes
That's multiples of everywhere.
dan friesen
It's basically saying nothing.
jordan holmes
They could have come from anywhere, man.
dan friesen
Honestly.
jordan holmes
Could have been anything we don't know.
dan friesen
It's my understanding they come from here, but they could come from literally anywhere else.
jordan holmes
Anywhere.
dan friesen
Awesome.
Thank you.
So now, the Aldebaran aliens are important for today.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And that's because there's a certain thing that happened at some point, and it involves an entire continent on planet Earth.
jordan holmes
Did we know about it?
dan friesen
We didn't.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
No one knows about this.
kerry cassidy
And I also was in contact with another whistleblower on the same subject that I'm going to talk about here that basically Gordon Duff talked about.
It turns out to be three other very substantial whistleblowers.
One is Captain Mark Richards.
The other is...
A very longtime contact of Project Camelot.
And the other is this other whistleblower who brought forward important information on the subject.
And the subject is how it's actually based on...
There's a movie, and I've talked about this before, so those of you out there who follow my work might know what I'm talking about.
jordan holmes
So surprised.
kerry cassidy
But it centers around...
A television series called The Event, which is actually a depiction of a real situation that we're having here on planet Earth to do with various ET races, but specifically the race from Aldebaran.
dan friesen
So the Aldebaran races, it's like the show The Event.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
So she mentioned Gordon Duff in there, and this is a guy who writes for Veterans Today.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I think what she's talking about, because she's not specific about this, but...
In 2013, Gordon Duff published a post on Veterans Today titled, quote, The Little Green Guy Book, which was a guide to various alien races that is very much not a real document or anything other than someone having a good time.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It's not official.
It's not from any government.
It's just a fun book with pictures of what someone thought aliens would look like.
It's like the Monster Manual.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
It's the DM's manual.
dan friesen
Gotcha.
My favorite of the races of the aliens in this is the Jeffok.
The J-E-F-O-K.
Here's what's known about them.
jordan holmes
Oh my god, don't tell me that it's Jeff's.
dan friesen
No.
Everyone's named Jeff.
Their first sighting on Earth dates back to 1500 BC.
They met with JFK three weeks before he was killed.
They also have, around the same time, met with other human world leaders.
They have not been seen on Earth since JFK's death.
unidentified
They've been coming around since 1500 BC.
jordan holmes
The moment JFK died, either they had something to do with it or that was the last straw for them.
If you guys are going to kill JFK, we're out of here.
dan friesen
No, they're noted as peacekeepers.
So they probably wouldn't have been involved in killing JFK.
So they're probably just like, shit's too hot.
They killed a president.
We're out of here.
jordan holmes
We can't keep this peace.
dan friesen
No, they didn't leave after Lincoln or the Civil War.
jordan holmes
Nope.
No, no, no.
You can kill Lincoln all day.
dan friesen
Right.
Also, strangely, U.S. focused.
jordan holmes
Wow, isn't that weird?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's so weird.
dan friesen
So yeah, anyway, that was part of the impetus for some of the...
I guess maybe the Aldebaran aliens are in that monster manual.
So she has other sources that tell her that the show The Event is real.
jordan holmes
Does it ever occur to these people that it is...
It's odd that all of the movies that they are referencing are all in English as though no one else in the world made movies about aliens.
dan friesen
And most of them aren't that good.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
I think I watched the event and I was really disappointed because I have it cataloged in my mind as kind of the same as like Terra Nova or Revolution.
Like these shows that I was like...
Man, this could be the sweet spot.
And then it just was nothing.
That sort of post-lost desire for something.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the sweet spot when everybody was like, there's gotta be one central mystery.
dan friesen
I thought Flash Forward had a lot of potential, too.
And then I hated it.
And then in the finale, I liked it again.
And then it got cancelled and I was pissed off.
jordan holmes
Oh, goddammit!
I'd just come back!
dan friesen
Yeah, they got me again!
jordan holmes
Oh, you bastards.
dan friesen
But yeah, the event is real.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And...
Here's what's going on with the Aldebarons.
jordan holmes
Okay.
kerry cassidy
The story goes that the race from Aldebaran destroyed what I understand to be not just one planet of theirs in their system, but two.
And they got into a situation where they wanted to come to Earth and basically terraform.
And take over a certain portion of our territory.
And that a negotiation took place so that we could go into outer space and take over certain planetoids or planets where we could establish colonies with their help.
And that at the same time, they would be given a portion of our landmass, which was Africa.
So, I know this sounds crazy to people out there, but this is actually something that Gordon Duff talked about on Veterans Today many years ago.
dan friesen
So, in exchange for help with planet colonies, someone gave Africa to the Aldebaran aliens.
unidentified
Who do you ask?
jordan holmes
For Africa.
dan friesen
I don't know if I...
jordan holmes
Who's the number?
dan friesen
I don't know if she has...
I don't know if I included a clip of it, but she does point out that some of the smaller countries in Africa were not thrilled with this.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah!
Well, yeah!
unidentified
They weren't consulted.
jordan holmes
Who gave them...
Who do you go to?
What's the contact info for, like, listen, we got this big treaty.
I need some colonies off-world, but...
I gotta say, we want all of China.
Nah, nah, nah.
We're not doing China, buddy.
This is the earth.
We don't just give China away to anybody.
Alright, fine.
We'll take South America.
unidentified
Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
jordan holmes
You trying to lowball us?
dan friesen
Yeah, I guess maybe they worked it out with the International Bank of Settlements or something, and they're like, take Africa.
Very weird.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is strange.
dan friesen
Weird.
jordan holmes
Man, but that is such that slight little bit of you know you're being racist when you just say they gave him Africa.
You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.
dan friesen
I think some of the themes in this story also reinforce that a little bit.
unidentified
Yeah, okay, that makes sense.
dan friesen
And maybe a convenient way to explain away some things of...
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
I don't like the whole continent of Africa because of aliens.
dan friesen
Well, no, it's not so much that, but there are some thoughts that I have.
So anyway, the Aldebarons, they came to secret bases and then went around into Africa.
kerry cassidy
To get back to the Aldebaran story is this story, as we were told by a whistleblower that has been substantiated again by at least three other substantial sources.
jordan holmes
Now there's three.
kerry cassidy
Including Gordon Duff.
jordan holmes
Who again?
kerry cassidy
Is that the beings from Aldebaran expressed they wanted to come here.
We gave them this landmass.
They have disguised themselves.
They have some kind of ability.
They do look, you know, the normal sort of blonde, blue-eyed, I don't know what you want to call that, humanoid, even you might call them the Nordic type of look, right, of the typical Nazi.
But they seem to be able to change their appearance.
And so what they did is they camouflaged themselves.
They turn their skin dark, more, you know, like black type, the black races to blend in with the races of Africa.
dan friesen
So how does that grab you?
jordan holmes
Wait, hold the fucking phone.
Did she just say that aliens created Rhodesia and then when they got caught they just turned themselves Al Jolson-y?
Is that what's going on here?
dan friesen
I'm not sure, but I do think that there is some connection to explaining away apartheid.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that has to be.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
There's no way you can have a...
Well, classic Nazis in Africa...
Not apartheid, right?
dan friesen
Well, I think...
Let me play the next clip, because I think that there's some information that comes here that made me feel a little bit more along these lines.
kerry cassidy
So these same bases then became sort of a place, a distribution place, where these races from Aldebaran, these beings who, again, were kind of like refugees from another planet...
Coming into Africa, families, etc., and then dropped off in South Africa, where this particular whistleblower actually told us that what happened was they began to see, all of a sudden, that they had populations in numbers that they never knew where they came from.
And they appeared kind of out of nowhere.
In the immigration record, I guess.
And then they would take trains and leave South Africa and go into the rest of Africa and establish themselves.
And because they looked like the peoples of Africa, they...
dan friesen
I think that by doing this kind of a framing, you're able to explain away all sorts of inconvenient things about the history of Africa.
For instance, you could...
In the same way that the anti-communist folks, their support of apartheid is based on, oh yeah, Nelson Mandela and all them.
It wasn't about human rights.
It was about pushing communism.
There's that.
And it's sort of the same way you could do this.
This wasn't a fight for human rights.
This was the Aldebarons who were trying to overthrow apartheid.
And hey, one of the features of apartheid is a very small minority is ruling over another majority group by force.
If there's a whole bunch of people that come in, maybe that's why there's a majority.
It's a mess.
jordan holmes
I mean, it does kind of feel like what just happened there is she described apartheid and then the end of apartheid being the people who caused apartheid.
Changing their skin black and disappearing.
Leaving those poor innocent white people to deal with the fallout.
dan friesen
I understand where that's coming from.
I get less of that.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I get more of the Aldebarons came.
They camouflaged to appear like the people in Africa.
jordan holmes
Okay.
So then it was the white people who were just fighting back against the Aldebaran, and apartheid was actually great.
dan friesen
Well, it's possible that could be an interpretation.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Or it could be an interpretation that the Aldebaranis were just trying to take control of...
And so the fight for human rights in places like Zimbabwe and in South Africa, overthrowing those systems, were actually the Aldebarons trying to take control.
Things like the remnants of the colonialism in places like Rwanda, you could take that as some sort of influence of the Aldebarons.
You know, you can basically take...
Cultural responsibility away from human actors.
jordan holmes
Hey, it's not their fault.
dan friesen
And place a lot of it onto aliens.
jordan holmes
Aliens keep causing problems for us.
dan friesen
Right.
I feel like there's a little bit of that.
jordan holmes
What I am hearing is that the root cause is somebody just gave away Africa without letting enough people know.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's weird.
jordan holmes
That seems way more the problem here, if that's the case.
dan friesen
Yeah, I also think that there's a very, very strong chance that we are over-reading this.
jordan holmes
I think that's our job.
dan friesen
Just trying to grasp at straws to make any of this make sense in the real world.
jordan holmes
I think the thing that blows my mind, though, in her reality, is when she keeps saying we.
Like when she refers to...
We gave them Africa.
And it's like, you're describing a group of humans so powerful, they can just give away a continent to aliens without telling anybody?
They're functionally aliens as well.
dan friesen
Yeah, you can't...
Don't lump yourself in with that group.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're not part of this, man.
dan friesen
Nah.
jordan holmes
I don't want none of this on my hands.
dan friesen
So one of the reasons that I associated this a little bit with possible ideas about apartheid is that she said that they came into South Africa.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And the other reason is because there's a potential time frame given in this next clip.
jordan holmes
70s to early 90s?
unidentified
Uh-oh.
kerry cassidy
I don't know what the actual number of these beings are.
I do know that it's very possible that what they're calling Ebola is actually could be a reaction to or sort of a disinfo campaign to keep people away from the intangibles.
of Africa.
And so to keep this race hidden.
dan friesen
You know, the first case of Ebola was identified in 1976.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Resistance to apartheid was quite strong around that time.
dan friesen
That was when the beginning Maybe not the beginnings, but a large push for the overthrowing of the system.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Well, the system didn't treat Ebola well when it came to people that were not white.
No.
Yeah?
dan friesen
And also, it's interesting that she's saying that it's to keep people away from Central Africa, because there were Ebola outbreaks in Central Africa before, but the most recent one was very...
Much of the Atlantic coast in northern Africa, like Sierra Leone and Liberia.
jordan holmes
I think she's more just saying the center of Africa, because that seems like a cooler place to say...
You know?
Like, you're not gonna say, like, they're keeping people away from the coast.
You can't keep people away from the coast.
You can keep people away from the center.
dan friesen
In fairness, some of the earlier outbreaks were more, like, in the Democratic Republic of Congo.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
But, like, the other thing, too, is that, like, if she's saying that Ebola is somehow a cover to keep people away, so they don't uncover the existence of the Aldebaran aliens.
Right.
First of all, that's silly.
But second of all, that means that there is a time frame, because that would mean that it can't exist prior to 1976.
jordan holmes
No, it does seem that to be the case.
dan friesen
It has to be 76 onward.
That's the time frame of this.
So it can't even have to do with Eisenhower allegedly negotiating with aliens?
jordan holmes
No, no.
dan friesen
Because that would have been out of the time frame.
jordan holmes
This is pure apartheid.
unidentified
I think so.
jordan holmes
I don't think there's any other way.
dan friesen
I can't hear it any other way.
The details are too, like...
jordan holmes
In the world that we are talking about...
dan friesen
These places where the aliens came in were the same places that gold was sent to space.
jordan holmes
So strange!
It's like, come on.
I mean, listen.
We're talking about people who have a, let's call Eurocentric an understatement towards their outview.
And the idea that they would know anything about Africa beyond apartheid blows my mind.
So I'm going to have to go with that.
dan friesen
I'm not even certain that she does.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's another part of it.
That's also possible.
dan friesen
So Ebola maybe is a false flag campaign to keep people away from Africa because they don't uncover the Aldebaran.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But also there's another possibility.
unidentified
Okay.
kerry cassidy
But there's also sort of a catch, which is that although they look human, What is the situation is that, and this is in the movie The Event, which is a series you can watch on Netflix.
unidentified
The movie The Event, a television series.
kerry cassidy
You know, it used to be free.
Towards the end, it is revealed that although they're humanoid or look very human, they actually need a different atmosphere than us.
And that they...
Exposure of us to them alters our DNA or actually, you know, can act as a kind of poison to us, which is possibly reflected in a disinfo campaign that they call Ebola.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So if that's the case, then it's even stronger evidence that it has to be 1976 forward.
Right.
Because then it's a reaction to the Aldebaran aliens.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
So that puts an even more concrete thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you can't claim it's some sort of ancient Ebola that's come back.
You're saying that Ebola didn't exist, and we know that it only started in 1976.
So that was a disinfo campaign created specifically around a certain purpose.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So that...
I don't know.
I don't know what to think here.
jordan holmes
I'm telling you, her sources are probably racist.
dan friesen
And they just know stuff, man.
jordan holmes
They just know stuff.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
If...
You get near an Aldebaran alien, you may be poisoned, or not, because it might be a disinfo campaign, or it could be Ebola.
dan friesen
Well, but Ebola has to exist.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because Carrie also has some news to drop on you here.
jordan holmes
Wait, so there's also Ebola outside of the disinfo possibility of Ebola?
dan friesen
I think so.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
We know that the COVID was turning people into vampires in China.
unidentified
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
Had to...
Bar people in.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
With garlic nails.
But there's also something about the vaccine that is news here.
kerry cassidy
Now, it's well known that Ebola was actually an ingredient or is an ingredient of the vaccines.
So this story that I'm telling now does reflect back into the whole COVID last two years.
Which is what I've said over and over again, a transhuman agenda with basically collateral damage where they don't care how many people can't handle the change.
They're trying to change our genome.
dan friesen
So yeah, there's Ebola and the vaccines.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And it is trying to change our genome.
So presumably...
Coming in contact with the Aldebaran aliens would just do this to you.
jordan holmes
You would assume.
dan friesen
Right.
But I guess if you have too much, then you get Ebola.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But if you don't, then it just changes your genome in a way that these Aldebaran aliens want to happen, and they're sort of collaborating with the New World Order on this.
jordan holmes
Because they don't care.
It's all about the transhumanism.
dan friesen
Right, right, right.
And some people will be able to handle it, and they can become transhuman, and the rest, you know, they may die, and who cares?
Plateral damage, baby!
jordan holmes
I'm going to give you a list of people who have put Ebola inside of a supposed vaccine or thing designed to stop you from getting sick.
Mike Adams.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
End of list.
dan friesen
Well, did he invent the COVID vaccine?
unidentified
Maybe.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's weird.
But I think one of the things you can see is there's a lot of thematic parallels with Alex.
jordan holmes
Yes, very much.
dan friesen
The end goal being this transhumanism or whatever.
There's a lot of stuff that's very similar.
jordan holmes
I mean, in this context, it's kind of interesting to see the way that a futurism...
is combined with such an obsessed conservatism as well.
You know, like, oh, look at all these alien races.
The stars are available.
We're signing intergalactic treaties.
Listen, I am not going to get weird, okay?
We're going to live the same way we fucking do.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
I'm not going to get a vaccine.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
None of my genome is going to be changed.
dan friesen
We need to be reactionary and go to the past.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly, yes.
dan friesen
We have to go back to the gold standard.
jordan holmes
Yes, absolutely, yes.
Yes, now that I know the vast infinity of the multiverse is available to me, I want to go back to South Africa during apartheid.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's futurism mixed with obsession with the past and reverting back.
jordan holmes
Such a weird, it's a weird futuristic Civil War reenactment.
dan friesen
It's convoluted.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, I think we're fucked, if Carrie is right about any of this, because it just seems like too much to fight.
kerry cassidy
There is this ongoing relationship with various ET races that the New World Order is all about controlling.
And they want to control, of course, the secret space program.
jordan holmes
Of course.
kerry cassidy
Or programs around the world.
And right now, it's centered in the United States, as I've said, with the opposite being China.
And there are a different...
jordan holmes
Kind of a yin and yang, if you will.
kerry cassidy
...that is dealing with China.
A certain, I think, group of the Dracoreptilians, or Dracos, probably.
And then we understand, perhaps, the spider beings and a few other type beings that the Chinese are being helped by, that they're being influenced by.
So, and you've got, then you've got each ET, okay, every ET race that becomes a space-faring race creates an AI.
So then we also have at least four AIs that are influencing the Earth in circumstances right now that are not negative towards humans.
What?
that we're dealing with on top of our dealings with all these different ET races.
dan friesen
That's too much to deal with.
jordan holmes
Holy shit, man.
So we got these alien races, but really all we're kind of dealing with then is the four AI though.
Because they're the ones orchestrating all of this.
dan friesen
Yeah, but you still have spider beings we're going to have to fight at some point.
jordan holmes
Sure, I mean...
dan friesen
And then the reptilian, Dracos...
jordan holmes
But I feel like we've got to negotiate with the AI.
Maybe the AI can help us out.
dan friesen
The Aldebaran are clearly not up to anything good.
jordan holmes
They do not have good intentions.
dan friesen
It doesn't seem like it.
jordan holmes
Why is China being influenced by the spider beings?
dan friesen
Because they needed a role.
They hadn't been mentioned yet.
jordan holmes
It does feel like this is a cameo.
unidentified
And playing the role of Chinese administrator, it's the spider beings!
dan friesen
Yep, yep.
So, through the COVID rollout, bioweapon, and the vaccines...
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, with the fake and real Ebola.
dan friesen
Right.
This is all a plan, right?
In order...
Here's what the plan is.
And it comes back to the Ebola and the vaccines, I think, sort of.
kerry cassidy
Basically, what they're building is...
An army.
An army of beings to fight any incoming threat, especially androids coming from these other AIs and AI cultures out in the larger solar systems and galaxies.
So this is what I call a Humanity 3.0 program.
And COVID is very much part of that.
dan friesen
What was 2.0?
jordan holmes
That was the Cybermen from Doctor Who.
So these are androids.
dan friesen
Oh, from the event.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
From Doctor Who, the event.
dan friesen
Look, I think there's a coherent plan here.
jordan holmes
Is there a coherent plan?
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
The COVID vaccine will turn some people into...
jordan holmes
Super soldiers.
dan friesen
Right, automatons that will mindlessly be able to fight against the incoming cyborgs that alien AI are creating.
Right.
unidentified
Explain to...
jordan holmes
Yeah, sure.
dan friesen
Okay, I'm in.
unidentified
What is...
jordan holmes
Man, what do you think?
Why does everybody think AI cultures are going to be human cultures, but like...
Angry towards us.
dan friesen
So what's an AI culture?
jordan holmes
I mean, it's whenever a bunch of AI get together and they start a band.
dan friesen
International AI settlement?
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
I don't know what any of this is.
I don't know what AI culture is.
Is it AI's getting together or is it a society that's run by an AI?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I think it's both.
I think it's neither.
I think all is possible in the multiverse, buddy.
dan friesen
You really did like that movie.
jordan holmes
I really did.
dan friesen
Yeah, so killing people isn't really the goal, necessarily, with the COVID vaccines.
jordan holmes
Well, there's so many people and AI and aliens.
Why would you even bother killing people?
Killing seems way beyond us at this point.
dan friesen
This is a harsh split from Alex's ideology, where two population is the number one goal.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Not so much.
kerry cassidy
Eliminating populations is not as crucial for them, although they're certainly involved in it.
And the Chinese very specifically.
In fact, Mark Richards told me two years ago before this whole thing started that he had gotten word that the Chinese had decided they needed to get rid of at least 500 million or more of their own people.
And they are still, as you see, you know, doing lockdowns, probably spraying their people with more versions of the bioweapon.
Making sure that more and more people die and don't just get transformed into this cybernetic-type army.
So we have that going on.
dan friesen
We got that going on.
jordan holmes
That's so mind-bogglingly evil.
She just described it in such a banal...
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Oh, so what they're obviously doing is spraying people with murder juice.
dan friesen
China is trying to bring down their population, whereas the rest of the world...
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Is trying to create cybernetic armies to fight cyborgs.
jordan holmes
Of course.
It seems like Mark Richards has his hand on the pulse.
dan friesen
Totally.
jordan holmes
Of global affairs.
dan friesen
Also, if Mark told her about this before...
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Man.
jordan holmes
What has she been doing for the past two years?
dan friesen
Someone should have warned people.
unidentified
She could have sent a text.
jordan holmes
Somebody.
dan friesen
So the thing with the vaccine, it's kind of unclear if Ebola is the same thing as the graphene oxide that she's very scared of about this vaccine.
But the graphene oxide is apparently the same as the black goo.
jordan holmes
Right?
Yes.
dan friesen
And so there was this guy who was a researcher in the paranormal world and what have you, a guy named Max Spears.
And he died a few years back.
And Carrie believes that he was killed by the black goo.
jordan holmes
He was killed by the black goo.
dan friesen
Yes.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Here is a little bit of inside information that she has about the case.
kerry cassidy
What happened to Max Spears and his death when he went to Cyprus and came back and was dying I was actually on the phone with one individual that was on the site there at the time Apparently, Max was dying in the other room.
They were trying to call some help.
Then doctors came but couldn't do anything.
They left, and eventually they came back to take the body away, and they didn't allow them to take that body away.
Instead, they spent several days trying to reanimate them and possibly doing a lot of black magic rituals around that.
What he was dying of appears to have been a COVID infestation or takeover of his body.
Because there was black stuff coming out of various, you know, his eyes and so on and so forth.
dan friesen
Yeah, so it was probably a COVID infestation manifested by the black goo.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
And then they tried to reanimate him for a few days.
jordan holmes
Man, I always forget that magic is also real.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Doing arcane rituals.
That one got, I'm like, oh yeah, we're in space, we're doing all the space stuff, and they were also doing black magic to reanimate his body.
What?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Why can't, why?
They can travel through stars, but we're still fucking cauldrons.
We got ingredients.
Oh, please come back to life, young boy.
dan friesen
Also, to what end?
jordan holmes
That's not important.
unidentified
Why?
jordan holmes
Don't ask for motive.
Motive is a bad road to go down.
dan friesen
Why reanimate this guy?
jordan holmes
Doesn't seem important.
He's got all that fucking goo, man.
dan friesen
Right.
This was this long, long predated COVID.
So I guess the way around that is the black goo is COVID.
So COVID's been around forever or something.
jordan holmes
Which means Steve Pachenik cured himself of the black goo.
dan friesen
Yes, that is true.
jordan holmes
That is possible.
dan friesen
Now it's all coming together.
Apparently all it takes is antibiotics.
jordan holmes
All it takes is antibiotics.
dan friesen
Also, like every oil wreck is like black goo because it looks like black goo.
jordan holmes
Because it's got black goo.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know, what else do you need?
dan friesen
She does actually talk about that, how it's like, One big oil spill was like the black goo eating through the bottom of a boat.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
So funny.
dan friesen
It's, uh, yeah.
But hey, here's the good news.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
There are multiple goos.
jordan holmes
Oh well, of course.
There's so many goos.
There's the gray goo.
That's the nanobots, right?
The gray goo where everybody turns into the nanobots.
dan friesen
No, but that's bad too.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's super bad.
dan friesen
But look, there's positive goos.
jordan holmes
There's positive.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And also, like, that last clip, you know, obviously one of Lovecraft's books is Herbert West, Reanimator.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
And this also gets a little bit Lovecraft-y.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
There's a Cthulhu vibe to this.
kerry cassidy
Alec Newworld is sort of an E.T. contactee with these blue aliens.
I believe he was living in...
jordan holmes
Nice.
kerry cassidy
As far as I remember, I thought it was New Zealand, but I read his books many years ago, and he talks about an ET race.
I'm not sure if it's the same race or whether the race just revealed the information, but they were aware of this negative level of black goo that is, again, AI that was put here by an ET race to be activated at a certain point in our history.
Which obviously has happened by now.
And happened beginning in the Falklands.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
kerry cassidy
So this is embedded in the Earth, under the oceans.
jordan holmes
What is?
kerry cassidy
And was always going to wake up and start to infiltrate our planet.
jordan holmes
Obviously.
kerry cassidy
Then supposedly there's another ET race that is trying to stop it.
But it's obviously not being very successful at the moment.
And then there is a version of that black goo or oil type substance that is supposedly even deeper in the earth that is positive.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's nice.
So we got a layer.
So we got us.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
All right.
Then we got the Earth's crust.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Then we got the mantle.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Then we got black goo.
dan friesen
Right.
And what is dead may never die in strange eons.
Even death may die.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
In its house in Reliae, the black goo lays dreaming.
jordan holmes
And then a few layers below that, right above the core, we've got the good goo.
dan friesen
Good goo.
jordan holmes
Good goo.
dan friesen
That's also apparently oil.
jordan holmes
That's ready and waiting for us.
When we need the good goo, it'll pop out at any moment.
And these other people trying to stop the black goo, they suck at their job.
unidentified
They're not doing great.
jordan holmes
That's the review.
dan friesen
These other aliens are not doing great.
jordan holmes
That is her review of other aliens we've not met before.
dan friesen
We probably met them.
jordan holmes
Well, it's possible.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Look, I don't know.
jordan holmes
Obviously, they suck at their jobs.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I feel powerless to do anything in her world.
jordan holmes
Get a shovel.
We can get down to that goo.
dan friesen
I don't think so.
I think you need more than a shovel.
Then you're going to have to get through the other bad goo first.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
That is true.
dan friesen
There's no way you're going to get to the good goo.
jordan holmes
No, that's so far deep.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It gets hot down there.
dan friesen
If any of this is true, just live your life.
Who cares?
jordan holmes
Just move on.
dan friesen
Why are you even caring?
jordan holmes
That is so...
It is fun.
dan friesen
If any of this is true...
Write a book.
jordan holmes
Why would you be afraid if any of this is true?
dan friesen
Write a science fiction book based on what you know to be true and then make some money and live your life.
jordan holmes
Just move on.
dan friesen
Yeah, because you're not going to be able to make any difference in the world of various goos.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it is almost paralyzing and yet at the same time comforting of being like, if I lived in this universe that she says we inhabit, what would I be afraid of?
Everything could kill me.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Right now, everything could kill me.
dan friesen
You know, outside my window, there's a tree?
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
It's a tree being.
jordan holmes
It's a tree being, right?
You know, like, there's anything...
dan friesen
They're notoriously hostile to humans.
jordan holmes
People could be doing a black magic spell on me right now, and I wouldn't know.
dan friesen
Probably are.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally.
So why would you be afraid?
You've just got black magic and shit flying around.
There's goose fighting each other.
dan friesen
Everybody send Jordan tweets about the black magic rituals you're doing against him.
Yeah, it's silly.
So we end this update on the world with a couple of clips about some figures in the media.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
The first is Vladimir Putin.
jordan holmes
Oh, how's he doing with his alien buddies?
dan friesen
We got some updates.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
kerry cassidy
I know that Russia is working with us in the secret space program.
jordan holmes
Amazing.
kerry cassidy
Regardless of how it looks on the surface Earth.
The Russians are also working with a certain set group of ETs that apparently are more positive than they used to be, and that this version of Putin, who is in essence a clone, is not the original Putin, and it's a much more positive-oriented being, and is working with Trump and the White Hats behind the scenes.
We're going to see where that'll lead.
dan friesen
It's not leading anywhere good right now.
Also, I think that you just proved Russian collusion.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't know.
Go back to space.
Go back to space.
We don't need you down here on Earth telling us that Putin's a clone that's actually good.
dan friesen
If the fruits of positive aliens are the war in Ukraine.
Yeah.
I'm not interested in positive aliens.
jordan holmes
We once again go back full circle.
Clearly the Draco and the Reptilians are good because Mark Richards hates them.
dan friesen
Well, I mean...
jordan holmes
And the Raptors are bad because Mark Richards is like...
dan friesen
Well, obviously, like, she believes that the COVID stuff is a bioweapon and the black goo and all this.
And that there are bio labs in Ukraine that Russia is actually going after an attack.
So that's how she can rationalize that it's a positive thing.
But, I mean, the reality of what she's justifying through fantasy is outrageous.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is fucked.
That's one of those where I do feel like she's got that moment of where it's like...
Either I can wrestle with what I've accidentally walked my space ass into supporting fucking Putin and deal with that.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
Or I go all the way.
dan friesen
Yeah, we need a painfully elaborate conspiracy to make this not awful.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is gonna go so hard.
dan friesen
Speaking of that, here is her thoughts on Elon Musk.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
kerry cassidy
Now, I'm not sure if I've mentioned, but Elon Musk...
Okay, so I have my own take on him.
And my understanding, what I was seeing was a cyborg.
I believe he's run by a good set of, whether it's an AI or a group of ETs, I don't know.
But for the most part, he seems fairly positively oriented.
But he did grow up and was totally backed by our secret space program.
During the time when it was completely run and dominated by the New World Order.
So he has been positioned purposely to be playing his role that he's playing now.
Whether he's turned against his operators or whether he is actually fulfilling a role that they prefer he play and where that might lead, I don't know.
dan friesen
Yeah, so he's a cyborg, man.
jordan holmes
Wow!
Because I would have said that he is the avatar of American white male failure being rewarded as the richest man in the world.
dan friesen
Cyborg.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Well, I mean...
dan friesen
One of the two.
jordan holmes
If you were creating something in the lab to more accurately reflect back on America every failure that it's ever made and what it looks like, that would be Elon Musk.
dan friesen
Well, I think painting him as a cyborg that's under the control of some hyper-powerful alien or AI kind of gets you around having to explain some of his behavior, some of his past.
All that stuff is kind of like, well, he's not, you know.
jordan holmes
Eh, we can still.
dan friesen
He's under control of aliens, he's a cyborg.
jordan holmes
I do appreciate the absurd willingness to bend your back over to make a monster seem okay to you.
dan friesen
That seems like that's what a lot of this is.
jordan holmes
Mark Richards, Putin, Musk.
That's amazing.
That's loyalty.
Dan, I'm just going to say this right now.
If you were like, hey, I'm going to lead to the deaths of thousands, if not millions of people, I'd be like, Dan, I don't think we can be friends anymore.
I'm not going to explain away your behavior.
dan friesen
Jordan, I'm going to buy Twitter.
Shit!
jordan holmes
We're not friends anymore!
dan friesen
Fair enough.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So what if Musk takes us to Mars, though?
jordan holmes
Wouldn't that be cool?
Can we leave him there?
dan friesen
Maybe.
kerry cassidy
I don't know how aware Elon is of what he actually is or not.
So I'm not trying to insult him.
But this is what, you know, you can't help what you see.
Then on top of it, someone wrote to me and said that there was a book written, I don't know if they said 100 years ago or whenever it was, that depicted a character called Elon, who would eventually be made president of Mars.
I don't have a copy of that book, but this is what I heard.
You can investigate and see if you can find it.
That's quite fascinating.
dan friesen
So Carrie clearly hasn't looked into this at all, because if she had, she'd have a much better conspiracy about it.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
That book is called Project Mars, and it was written, published, as it were, in 1953.
It was written by Nazi rocket scientist Werner Von Braun.
unidentified
Ooh!
dan friesen
She could add that in.
That would be an extra part that would add to the conspiracy.
jordan holmes
Wait, so Werner Von Braun essentially used his imagination to pull Elon Musk from the multiverse and inflicted him upon us here.
That's what you're telling me, right?
dan friesen
No, he wrote a book that is...
I read some parts of it.
I wouldn't say it's good sci-fi.
jordan holmes
No?
dan friesen
It may be sci-fi written by a Nazi rocket scientist.
jordan holmes
Not that bad.
dan friesen
But in the book, the person who takes humans to Mars isn't named Elon.
The office of the presidency in the Martian government is called the Elon.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
So the level of information that Carrie has on this topic is basically just what you'd get from seeing a meme or something.
That's good enough.
Why look into it?
Because if you sincerely believe...
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
So what you're saying is that if you heard maybe third or fourth hand...
That a prophecy might have existed in a book that may exist that you haven't read.
dan friesen
And was written by Ver von Braun?
jordan holmes
About Elon.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
then you would go like, oh, I should read that book.
dan friesen
Oh, and guess what?
Kerry also believes that the Nazis could time travel.
unidentified
Yeah.
So that would be even more important for doing this.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
I'm starting to believe in this conspiracy theory.
If the Nazis could go back in time, then the rockets, and then the Elon.
It all makes sense.
dan friesen
I mean, there are pieces of something.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Instead of just being like, hey, I heard there was a prophecy that Elon's gonna be president of Mars.
Fun.
Isn't that interesting?
unidentified
Cool.
jordan holmes
All right, let's just move forward with that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think that one of the reasons that people like Gary don't learn more about the things that they see like this is because if you learn more, it's less fun.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
But in this case, it's actually more fun because then you'd learn who's Von Braun.
Right.
They could have all kinds of fun with that.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
This has got to be a learned behavior.
That is so much for you and I, it would be like putting our hand on the burner, on the proverbial burner, you know?
Ah, I got burned.
I'm not going to do that again.
Every time they look into stuff, they get disappointed by reality.
dan friesen
I mean, it must have happened a couple times and then you learn, like, don't dig too far.
jordan holmes
Just don't dig too far.
dan friesen
I mean, this show really is a manifestation of what happens when you take claims and then you try and explore them past the surface level of the headlines that Alex reads.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And you see the results of it.
Yeah.
Bend towards Alex being right about stuff.
And I think that on some level, subconscious or otherwise, people like Gary probably have that intuition too.
Best not to actually try and confirm things.
Totally.
Instead, let's take our information from a murderer who makes stuff up.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Let's take our information from...
Weird monster manuals that a guy at Veterans Today posts.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is totally...
They're not aware of it.
It's just Skinnerism.
The level of, like, I've just...
If I don't look, things good happen.
If I do look, things bad happen.
And they never have to be aware of that.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think there's probably something to that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Crazy.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
What an adventure.
I think...
You know, obviously we've missed some of the alien talk, and I'm glad that there was a little bit of it.
I'm terrified to learn that Africa is under the control of the Aldebaran.
This is big news.
I think that's Earth-shattering news.
jordan holmes
I mean, well, I mean, it's at least one-seventh of Earth being shattered.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, how does that affect how we would go about our lives?
jordan holmes
Just knowing that, I mean, the fact that somebody...
I'm not talking about specifically a person, although I assume it could be a person in this cosmology.
Could just be like, okay, Aldebaran's...
You guys are dope.
You get Africa.
dan friesen
But you gotta help us with space colonies.
unidentified
Totally.
jordan holmes
But I mean, like, you can't just say you get Africa.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Who did that?
dan friesen
The fact that somebody, yeah, somebody conceivably has that power is earth-shattering.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
That needs to be explored.
dan friesen
The idea that the Chinese are working with spider beings is troubling, if true.
jordan holmes
I mean, not because we're anti-spider.
dan friesen
No.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
No, no.
We know we are into the spider leadership.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
You have a shirt.
jordan holmes
I've got a shirt.
unidentified
We're not anti-spider here.
dan friesen
They're helpful.
They eat bugs around the house.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we're anti-Beetle.
If I remember the Vietnam conflict.
dan friesen
They were in Vietnam.
jordan holmes
The Beatles.
dan friesen
Vietnam was us fighting Beatles.
jordan holmes
Just a quagmire.
dan friesen
And every now and again, Beatles come through portals and try and eat people.
Totally.
And that's why there are wildfires and things like that in order to cover up for the portals.
jordan holmes
And I think there were some Beatles in Iraq one time.
dan friesen
Yes.
And that's why there was bombs to close the Stargate.
jordan holmes
Yes, that's right.
It's the Stargates.
dan friesen
And I think that they want...
We wanted to steal antiques and stuff too, like relics.
jordan holmes
See, this is what COVID really took away from us.
All of our good conspiracies are now just like, oh, there's Ebola.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think the world is so bad in many ways that the fun elements of this space conspiracy stuff, it kind of...
It's robbed.
We're deprived of it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think, you know, we're all just too emotionally charged about everything all the time, you know?
Like, she can't enjoy these conspiracies.
She's too mad because we're being murdered by Ebola aliens or whatever, you know?
dan friesen
That's a piece of it, and I think the other piece of it, too, is that the phenomenon of Trump...
Brought in so much conspiracism to politics.
That overlap is ruining conspiracism.
Along with politics.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It turns both of them worse.
Conspiracies are more boring and politics is more destructive.
dan friesen
Well, at least there used to be political conspiracy.
You had JFK assassination and stuff like that.
And then you had stuff that maybe was tertiarily involved with politics, but lived in a different space.
jordan holmes
And the real crazies would combine the two and they'd be like, oh, aliens killed JFK.
And you'd be like, well, now we know we don't have to worry about you, sir.
dan friesen
And there'd be less of that.
New age-y conspiracy stuff.
And then they'd all just filter it all towards QAnon stuff.
jordan holmes
Now it's all one.
dan friesen
But anyway, we got a little bit of a taste of the old days.
jordan holmes
Oh, we did.
dan friesen
And much needed.
jordan holmes
Delicious.
dan friesen
So we'll be back, Jordan, for...
Probably a present day episode on Monday.
jordan holmes
Indeed we will.
dan friesen
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep.
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight and I go to bed Jordan.
dan friesen
Ah, that thing in my eye is back.
It's not.
I was joking.
Not a good joke.
Callback, at least.
Anyway, we'll be back.
jordan holmes
Pleading callback.
dan friesen
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZXClark.
I hope you all have a dreamy, creamy summer.
steve quayle
And now, here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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