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April 27, 2022 - Knowledge Fight
01:48:20
#675: April 25, 2022

Jordan Holmes and Dan Friesen dissect Alex Jones’ April 25, 2022 episode, where he falsely claimed a "90% depopulation" plan by 2030, citing misrepresented works like Limits to Growth (1972) and fabricated passages from H.G. Wells. Jones tied unrelated events—like a self-immolation protest—to globalist conspiracies, conflating COVID, climate change, and election fraud with baseless theories such as the "Committee of 300" or "Operation Lockstep." Roger Stone joined to push fringe right-wing victories, predicting a September 2022 pandemic to justify voting restrictions, while Jones promoted InfoWars merchandise. Their unverified claims reveal a pattern of fearmongering over decades, undermining credibility despite legal battles and past failed doomsday forecasts. [Automatically generated summary]

Participants
Main
a
alex jones
infowars 20:09
d
dan friesen
58:11
j
jordan holmes
21:45
Appearances
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robert barnes
00:37
r
roger stone
r 03:16
s
savanah hernandez
tpusa 01:06
Clips
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tucker carlson
dailycaller 00:20
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
alex jones
Knowledgeparty.com.
It's time to pray.
roger stone
And I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys.
alex jones
Shang, we are the bad guys.
Knowledge my fight.
roger stone
Dan and Jordan.
unidentified
Knowledge fight.
Rattler, rattler, rattler.
alex jones
I need, I need money.
Andy and Pansy.
Andy and Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a fish pin color.
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your room.
roger stone
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
unidentified
I'm Dan.
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're cool dudes.
Like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Joe.
Oh, indeed, we are.
unidentified
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot is.
Okay, so here's the deal.
Okay.
I have a history in the past of every now and again just being like, ah, fuck it.
And then shaving my head.
jordan holmes
Yes, that's true.
dan friesen
And I had a moment like that the other night, and I was very close to shaving all my hair off.
But what?
jordan holmes
Just any particular area.
dan friesen
If he really has a reason, it's just kind of like, it feels like it's time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's fair.
dan friesen
I do enjoy having a bald head.
It feels kind of good.
When you take a shower, the water hitting your bald head feels really good.
jordan holmes
I bet that does feel really good.
dan friesen
It just rolls off you.
jordan holmes
Never felt it before.
dan friesen
Oh, so good.
jordan holmes
I've got about four years left where I have the choice.
dan friesen
Look forward to it once that happens.
But then I had this moment in advance of shaving my head that I usually have after the fact.
And that is I remembered that I really like the front and top of my head bald, but the back is a disaster.
I got those rolls on the back of the body.
jordan holmes
Oh, you got that thing.
Okay.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
It's really hard to shave that.
jordan holmes
Sure, of course.
dan friesen
It's just, I realize that, and I'm like, yeah, the allure of this is not as good as the reality.
unidentified
So I'm going to make an appointment to go get a haircut.
dan friesen
And I think it's a bright spot because it's progress.
Like in the past, I would have just barreled in and at this time I thought about it and realized, no, no, no, the back of my head does exist.
jordan holmes
Wow, when hindsight being 2020 turns into foresight 2020, that's a victory of epic proportions, right?
dan friesen
I'm Dan and this is 2020.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
dan friesen
So what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is I found Jamie Loftus' new podcast, Goach Ghost Church.
Very good.
It's, you know, it's about that single person point of view non-fiction kind of thing.
It's great.
It's really enjoyable.
I wish it was about Cactus Tony, of course.
Sure.
dan friesen
The long story.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the greatest example of the format.
But it is very good.
And it's about that spiritualism era right now that I've always found incredibly fascinating whenever so many fucking mediums were going around like it's fine.
Like they were just like, yeah, let's do this.
It's crazy.
dan friesen
Well, I'll have to give that a check out.
Sounds good.
jordan holmes
It is interesting, yeah.
dan friesen
Awesome.
Well, Jordan, today we have a not-so-awesome episode to go over.
jordan holmes
I kind of figured that.
dan friesen
This is one of the most discordant episodes of Alex's show I've heard in a long time.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
dan friesen
It makes absolutely no sense.
And if anything is to be taken seriously, it is deeply, deeply disturbing.
There we go.
And we'll get into that.
But before we do, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
That's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Una Llama Bomber.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
So if I understand correctly, that means like universities, airports, and mamas.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Next, hearing Roger Stone's orgy janitor made me say gross out loud while washing dishes.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, a little snacky for me.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Andy in Kansas, even though I'm not Andy, nor have I ever been to Kansas.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
And this guy sounds like a smooth jazz cat.
Gary Piano.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
And we got a couple of technical ads up in the mix here.
So first, Jay, also happy belated birthday.
Sure.
We're a little bit behind.
Don't worry about it.
Hey, Jay.
Happy birthday, brah.
Next, also, a shout out to all my gay frogs and trans rights or human rights.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
I have risen above my enemies.
I might quit tomorrow, actually.
I'm just going to take a little break now.
A little breaky for me.
And then we're going to come back.
And I'm going to start the show over.
But I'm the devil.
I got to be taking off here.
I'll be all this.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
I got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your new world order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit.
Maybe today should be my less broadcast.
Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.
Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again.
That's really what I want to do.
I never want to come back here again.
I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air.
I'll be better tomorrow.
dan friesen
He's not.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
Boy, is he not.
jordan holmes
I was really thinking today was going to be the day.
dan friesen
New shit.
So today we're going to be going over April 25th, 2022.
That's Monday to you.
jordan holmes
All right.
That one actually works.
dan friesen
And this was upsetting.
This was a disturbing episode.
And I think, I mean, I texted you and I was like, maybe we need to do a Tuesday episode.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's how absurd this was.
About 10 minutes into the episode, I was like, worried.
jordan holmes
Okay, you are worried.
dan friesen
It's not a common experience that I have.
Yeah.
It was, it was just, it was a very different vibe than I'm used to.
And I think you'll feel it as we go.
But here's where the episode starts.
alex jones
Something hit me last night and this morning while I was reading all the news and looking at the research.
And something we've really talked about quite a bit here on air in the past, but we're now here.
And I really think I should take today out to really thank you all and to tell you that I really appreciate you because we could be off the air at any moment.
You could be plunged into a massive power outage that will be the beginning of martial law.
jordan holmes
Cool.
alex jones
And we will be in the next phase of the New World Order, the purposeful collapse of civilization and massive at least 90% depopulation in the next eight years.
jordan holmes
That's fast.
alex jones
They're actually doing it.
It's actually happening.
And just to chronicle all the attacks they're running right now would take the four-hour show.
We're going to hit a lot of them.
But as I look at all this incredibly important news, that is the most important.
And we have all the pieces.
I know exactly what's going to happen.
The only question is, what is the timetable?
I think you know what's happening as well.
dan friesen
So there's a real sense of a vibe that he's kind of saying goodbye.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
There is definitely that.
dan friesen
There is a different vibe to this than a lot of times that he talks doom.
Yeah.
There is a subdued, kind of measured presentation to this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It creeped me out.
jordan holmes
I mean, it does seem like the normal outburst of how we're all going to die comes from whenever he's having a bad day and has lost in some fashion, usually in the court system.
This sounds like he's saying goodbye through this medium of dance, I suppose.
dan friesen
I have a working theory that is Alex realized that maybe this bankruptcy thing isn't going to work.
And that maybe the fact that the U.S. trustees have written this letter of objection to his use of the bankruptcy system, this could trigger some kind of examination of his use of bankruptcy, which could lead to even more trouble.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, when you start to say the words criminal fraud, I don't know what the standards of that are.
alex jones
I don't either.
dan friesen
I don't have any kind of like inside information on this or anything, but it just feels like my theory is that this is Alex being like, I'm done.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I've done everything I can.
It was my last Hail Mary.
I'm fucked.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That's kind of how I feel.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm saying.
I'm not saying the words criminal fraud, but we're in the ballpark where you should start to think about that.
And that's trouble.
dan friesen
There are insinuations and hints of it.
And it just like this beginning stretch of the episode, boy, howdy.
alex jones
There's that great song with Elvis.
He talks about, baby, have I ever told you how much I really loved you?
And he goes on to say that you were always on my mind.
You were always on my mind.
And I've told the listeners how much I love you and appreciate you in the great historic battle we've been through.
We tried to stop them initiating this final phase.
And we have a good chance going into this dark night to be able to beat them in the long run.
But I really need to just, I'll still continue on as long as possible.
Might be a month, might be two years.
But you need to get ready and you need to get your family ready.
And I've really been holding off telling you all this, but I just, I think you already know.
But everything you see, everything standing, everything that's been here is going to be gone.
They really intend to kill 90% of us.
And when it dawns on the left and the Quizlings that have gone along with it, it'll be too late for them and too late for us.
So just get right with God.
I'm going to try to lay all the shots today, but there's no doubt now.
dan friesen
Okay, so this is bad.
jordan holmes
This is some bad news.
I keep, here's what I couldn't get out of my head.
I couldn't get out of my head whenever NBC took the tonight's show from Conan.
I was like, what if this was Conan's final model?
dan friesen
That'd be awesome.
Instead of that great speech about not giving into things.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, amazing speech that was so heartfelt and beautiful.
Instead, he was just like, listen, they took this show from me.
They're going to take everything from you.
NBC is going to kill all of us.
90% of you will be dead tomorrow.
dan friesen
Everything that is here will be gone.
The monuments we built to the past will crumble and be taken over by Ivy.
jordan holmes
Andy Richter's just like, yep, that sounds right.
Good work, buddy.
unidentified
Yeah, I think that would be a lot of fun.
dan friesen
Instead of the money.
I mean, like, this is just fucked up.
I mean, like, there's unacceptable on any level.
There's the sort of presentation of it like you got to prepare your family.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
The shit's going down.
No matter what, this is happening.
Next eight years, 90% of everybody is going to be dead.
And there is a really constant sense at the beginning of this episode that this can't be stopped.
There's nothing we can do.
jordan holmes
Great, great.
alex jones
I really care about this crew, and I care about all you, and I care about my family.
And I just have a really sad feeling that we didn't stop this, but we did the best job we could.
They are dismantling every facet of civilization.
The third world has completely collapsed.
Hundreds of millions are on their way now to Europe and the United States and North America.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Mexico will completely collapse.
We will collapse, just like the Blue Cities.
jordan holmes
We're doing fine.
alex jones
The power grid will start failing.
And the public will beg for stability, and that will submit the massive tyranny you already see happening in China.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, this is extreme and nonsensical.
But, I mean, there are some similarities to what a lot of people believe will happen due to climate refugees.
Yeah, yeah.
The ways that some areas are going to become uninhabitable is just a reality of how things are trending.
Yep.
And there are going to be massive inflows of refugees.
Alex is pretending that they are used as a weapon by the globalists as opposed to being forcibly displaced by them.
Well, not by the globalists.
jordan holmes
Well, yes, not by the world.
dan friesen
By climate change.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex is kind of weaponizing a potential real issue that we're going to be dealing with in the future.
And that's pretty insidious.
That's pretty nefarious.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it is hard to argue with a prediction that things are going to get bad right now.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
It does seem impossible for you to look at the IPCC reports where scientists are getting, are waxing philosophical about what it would be like to live on a planet that functions and then see Biden being like, well, I mean, yeah, drilling is great, but not this way.
Not this way.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Not how it's going to go.
dan friesen
No.
So, look, it's been great knowing you, audience.
Quote Alex.
alex jones
I just need to take this opportunity today to tell you what's coming.
And also, I really just feel like talking about how great it's been to know all of you.
And just in case we're off the air next week or next month, because it's that close.
All the stops have been pulled out.
And we have a puppet president that takes direction on television from the Easter Bunny.
And that's not a joke.
That's very serious.
dan friesen
It's quite serious.
jordan holmes
Very serious.
Very serious.
dan friesen
Did you know that the globalists are run by the Easter Bunny?
jordan holmes
I actually did not know that, but I had always suspected it.
And to feel right now, it's amazing.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I mean, like, obviously, maybe the person who was in the Easter Bunny suit at the White House's celebration wasn't a random person who plays an Easter Bunny.
Maybe that was like a Secret Service agent or something.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
You wouldn't probably want a random person in an Easter Bunny suit to the president.
jordan holmes
Craigslist Easter Bunny.
Let's get him in here.
We don't have any internal Easter bunnies.
And there's no way to get a suit on such short notice.
dan friesen
It's just not the same if it's an agent portraying the Easter Bunny.
You need a professional.
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
All those kids will be sad.
dan friesen
So, yeah, this is just nonsense.
But we've heard Alex say stuff like that, though.
The like, it's been good to know you and things like that in the past.
But I really do need to stress how different this feels.
jordan holmes
This is dark.
dan friesen
And the idea that they've pulled out all the stops and we could be gone in a week.
A lot of that feels like all of my attempts to put off the inevitable have failed.
jordan holmes
That is kind of like.
dan friesen
Essentially, all of my moves are gone.
I'm in checkmate.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
It does feel like he is admitting that out loud.
dan friesen
I mean, obviously, you know, it would be tough to prove definitively.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
It certainly fits, like, this subtext fits what's going on in the larger sense of this world.
jordan holmes
Which we could be reading too much into, as we have in the past.
dan friesen
It's possible.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But this is a fucked up episode.
jordan holmes
This really does seem fucked up.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway, everyone's going to camps.
alex jones
The sheep-like public, when everything is taken from them, will turn into complete monsters.
And if they're told, hey, go along with putting 100 million Americans in camps, they'll do it.
We will.
And so, my God, what have we done?
What have we become?
We're the country that are trying to pass laws to kill babies after they're born.
I mean, we're run by evil.
We're the bad guys.
We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen.
Stay with us.
Infowars.com, chronicling the apocalypse.
Stay with us.
dan friesen
Ooh, new tagline.
Man.
No longer tomorrow's news today.
unidentified
Now we're chronicling the colours of the chronicling apocalypse.
jordan holmes
Pirate radio from Apocalypse Now.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
I think that's good branding.
jordan holmes
I think it's so much easier to feel morally superior to your enemies whenever you have them fictionally writing laws to just murder babies.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's great.
You know, like in a nuanced world, I have to wrestle with sometimes, you know, it's like, what would I do in their shoes?
Would I be, you know, a person who, if he obtained billions of dollars, would go mad with power and buy Twitter, you know?
That one's pretty easy, though.
He's monster.
dan friesen
Sure.
He monster.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Anyways, it's way better.
It's way better than real problems.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, I think that's just kind of an offshoot of his whole thing where it's like really easy to be better than your enemy when your enemy is the fucking devil.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yep.
And it's imaginary.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I am but a fallen vessel, but compare me to the devil and I am so great.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
And whenever your enemy compliments you, it's like when you're playing the devil respects you.
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Great deal.
jordan holmes
Every time I've played white against myself playing black, I tell myself I'm the best player there's ever been.
And nobody could beat me across the table if it's me.
dan friesen
So that's all like the beginning segment of the episode.
And he comes back into the show proper because a lot of that's not actually broadcast on the radio.
You know, that's that no man's land segment.
So here we come into the actual show.
alex jones
It's a live emergency broadcast, live Monday emergency broadcast.
An international cult of transhumanist environmentalist terrorists are sabotaging civilization.
Tune in and learn how to stop them.
InfoWars has confirmed that a multinational authoritarian cult is actively attacking every facet of the planet's supply chain.
The Debos Group is the mouthpiece of this psychotic, multinational, corporate-backed post-humanist revolution.
I think you now realize that when I would read out of Club of Rome and UN documents and Operation Watchstep from the Rockefeller Foundation and British Ministry of Defense reports, where they predicted, because they were laying all this out, this would be unfolding by the year 2020.
And now we're two plus years into it.
That I wasn't making it up and I wasn't exaggerating.
They weren't playing games.
dan friesen
So the first thing to point out here is that this headline is a farce.
InfoWars hasn't confirmed shit yet.
They're running a headline as if they're doing some real reporting here.
This is just shit talking being presented as fact delivery.
Second, none of the documents that Alex is referencing at the end there have anything to do with backing up his claims.
Operation Lockstep isn't a real thing.
In that document from the Rockefeller Foundation exercise, the pandemic that's involved in the lockstep scenario, it begins in 2012.
The depiction of the situation that this imagined future involves, it does extend to 2026, where the last event mentioned is protesters in Nigeria overthrowing their government.
Along the way, the document explicitly mentions some fictional things that never happened, which Alex, I'd love to hear him explain.
For instance, in 2013, cellular networks completely crash.
Or in 2017, quote, Italy addresses immigrant caregiver gap with robots.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that sounds fun.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Alex, explain the prognosticating wizardry of this.
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
And explain why it was just Italy who did that.
We need robot caregivers, too.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it's not a complete sketch of the world.
It's just sort of a little blurb.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
So we've been over this, but it always needs to be called out that Alex is maliciously lying and making things up about a scenario exercise about technological advancement in the developing world so it will work better as a thing to scare his listeners with.
It's bullshit, and his behavior is inexcusable.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
The Club of Rome document he's talking about is limits to growth, which I know because it's literally the only Club of Rome publication he's ever mentioned.
Limits to Growth was written in 1972, and I'm certain Alex has never read it because it's a very detailed breakdown of various factors that the authors believed would be contributors to limiting the carrying capacity of the planet.
These involve things like pollution, but they also touch on the total amount of arable land versus demand for food, and like things like known quantities of finite resources versus the increasing demand as population goes up.
In each case, they have estimates for the points at which these lines intersect on a graph, but they're also very clear that these are based on trends continuing and that some of the factors aren't even predictable.
Even so, they conclude that without any major changes, we'll hit a resource crunch within 100 years or by 2072.
Alex is just making up that they predicted that the crisis would be in 2020 because it better suits his purposes now, but it has no connection to reality.
Another book on this kind of theme that Alex might be referencing is Paul Ehrlich's 1968 population bomb, but that wasn't affiliated with the Club of Rome.
That book brings up some valid points, but a number of the predictions in it were not good.
Still, none of them involve 2020.
Ehrlich thought doom was coming by the 1980s.
Alex is casually referencing these documents to give his career full of failed doomsday predictions the appearance of being something researched and scholarly.
This shitty saying means nothing.
He's just trying to trick the audience into thinking there's more behind his words than just some idiot's imagination, which is really all that's going on.
Yeah.
And of course, prophetic dreams he's had and weird visions.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we really don't deal enough with how much it may just be a dream that he's telling us all the time.
And then he finds some random ass document that somebody is like, eh, that sounds close enough to a dream I had.
dan friesen
A dream informed by growing up in a John Birch society household where he read these fucked up books at like age 12 and then just internalized them into his worldview.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And now he pretends he was a Satanist and all this bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
There's really only two ways to go from that childhood, right?
There was Serial Killer and then InfoWars, and everybody had already done Serial Killer, so he was like, I suppose I'll just do the InfoWars.
dan friesen
Well, I guess there's another way to go.
Therapy.
unidentified
Oh, anyway.
jordan holmes
Never even considered it, Dan.
dan friesen
Look, all this shit that Alex was saying in the first segment, it carries over.
alex jones
Oh, boy.
So there's a couple things we need to get out of the way here.
The collapse that has been initiated is now irreversible.
The word is irreversible.
There's no putting the genie back in the bottle.
Now, it could be 10 or 20 times worse if they get what they're actually looking for.
And we're talking 6 billion plus dead by 2030.
That's the official plan.
And they don't have Noah Harari and Klaus Schwab and the Wall Street Journal of the New York Times saying, looking forward to the end of humanity.
They don't have people set themselves in fire in front of the Supreme Court building calling for an end to fossil fuels.
Of course, they had to use fossil fuels to do it.
I agree with that.
They're not doing all of this to play games.
All right.
dan friesen
Well, I guess Alex can just wrap it up then.
Just close up shop.
The goal was to stop the globalists, and now the whole thing can't be stopped.
He's failed, and he should go home and tend to his hopefully miserable life.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Fuck this dude.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's useless now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, go away.
dan friesen
Also, Looking Forward to the End of Humanity was an op-ed that actually makes the opposite point that Alex thinks it does because he's only read the headline.
And Yuval Noah Harari is a historian and futurist that Alex has recently decided that he's going to pretend as the globalist soothsayer.
If I had to guess, this is because Ray Kurzweil hasn't said anything weird in a while.
So Alex had to find a new character to fill that gap.
Wynne Bruce was the name of the man who self-immolated in front of the Supreme Court building recently, hoping to bring attention to the climate crisis.
Though he was passionate about climate change, Bruce's action has nothing to do with Klaus Schwab or the globalists.
It's a desperate act meant to bring into focus the severity of the issues that he cares about.
He's not the only person to do this, even if you exclude all of the cases of protest outside the United States.
For instance, David Buckle died by self-immolation as a protest about the climate in 2018.
This is basically Alex's way of not taking Bruce's action seriously by pretending it's part of some grand conspiracy and then by making a glib joke about how his self-immolation requires fossil fuels.
Alex is doing this because on some level, he can't even imagine having the conviction about something it would take to self-immolate to protest a serious cause because he's just pretending.
It's nonsense.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he should not even be allowed to speak of that.
dan friesen
No, I think it's pretty poor taste.
But I guess this whole globalist thing can't be stopped now and everyone's going to die.
It's a real shame.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm confused.
dan friesen
He had a good run.
jordan holmes
Yeah, like, let's just chill then.
You know?
I mean, if it's irreversible, I'm confused as to why he's so sad.
dan friesen
Well, I guess the only argument is that he's saying it could be 20 times worse, which implies that by some action, it could be 20 times less bad.
Okay.
I guess we only have hundreds of millions dying or something.
jordan holmes
Yeah, okay.
dan friesen
But honestly, I really think that this line of rhetoric is pretty dangerous because I think that there's really only a couple directions you can go with it.
The first is doomsday prepping, and maybe you and your family run to the woods.
jordan holmes
So we'll only hide out survivors.
dan friesen
Sure.
I think that that's an unwise decision for most people.
unidentified
Probably.
dan friesen
Maybe some people could pull it off and have a nice life out in the woods.
jordan holmes
Maybe they'll be happier.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
But I think that by and large, it's probably irresponsible to give this advice to your audience.
jordan holmes
Frankly, terrible idea.
dan friesen
Well, the second thing, I think you could lead people to a state of real terror, and maybe they would consider ending their life because what's coming could be something so horrible.
jordan holmes
I saw The Mist.
Remember whenever the guy...
dan friesen
I didn't see The Mist.
Oh, the... I've played Mist.
jordan holmes
Nah.
No, there's that famous ending.
I might not be right with the title, but the famous ending is the guy is with his family in the truck, and he kills his wife and daughter to save them from the horrors, and he's about to kill himself.
The mist parts, and he can see people coming towards him.
And so it's like, oh, fuck, man.
Five minutes.
dan friesen
Sure.
Yeah.
Or like you hear stuff about people taking the war of the world seriously when it was on the radio.
And, you know, like you could see, you could see some people in Alex's audience, if they take it seriously enough, could reach despair.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Second or third, you could end up with people who are just like, well, I got to gung-ho support Alex, which is just a dead end.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then the other alternative is like, well, if the globalists' plans are unstoppable, I'm dead.
My life is already over.
If I can do something that will possibly make less people die, why would I not engage in a suicide bombing against the World Economic Forum or something like that?
Why wouldn't you do that if the globalists are going to kill off billions of people within the next eight years?
It's unstoppable, the plans that they've put in place.
The information war, quite frankly, has no more purpose.
Nope.
There is no reason to be engaging in politics.
There is no reason to be engaging even in culture stuff.
jordan holmes
Really?
Why would you?
What does it matter if you care if it's like, oh, gay marriage?
We're all dead, man.
What are we doing here?
Yeah.
No, of course.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't understand how you can be really concerned with the imagination of slow erosion of civilization when it's a couple years left and then the globalists are going to kill everybody off.
It is an excuse for people in the audience to carry out violent actions if they are so inclined.
jordan holmes
And Alex is a person who does believe the TV is talking to him.
So he should be very understanding of what people in his audience who might believe that he's speaking directly to them think.
dan friesen
Right, but he also is deeply invested in not taking responsibility for anything.
So, you know, obviously this would be turned around to be like, why would anyone actually listen to me?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Yep.
dan friesen
It's just fucked up and so irresponsible.
And everyone's going to die.
alex jones
They decided that the public is dumb and lazy and weak and aimless.
And the decision has been made to kill you and me and my family and your family.
And this issue is the only political, economic, cultural issue.
And of course, it's spiritual in nature.
It's a battle between good versus evil.
dan friesen
So yeah, everyone's going to die.
It's good versus evil.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, I know nobody listens to his show that's important, you know, like Tucker Carlson and Joe Rogan.
They don't actually listen to his show.
dan friesen
Probably not.
jordan holmes
Right.
Because if you're listening to this shit, wouldn't you need some explanation from Alex?
dan friesen
Wouldn't you need some explanation for why you're supporting it?
jordan holmes
Exactly, right?
Wouldn't you be like, wait, wait, wait, wait.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Be like, hey, Alex Jones is right about stuff, but I should also be clear that I do not believe it when he says that everyone's.
jordan holmes
90% of the population is going to die within eight years.
dan friesen
And everybody needs to get right with God and he has prophetic visions.
jordan holmes
That one might be a little far.
dan friesen
Yeah, you'd think that you'd maybe couch some of your commentary about how he's right about most things.
jordan holmes
I mean, now it does seem like Joe would have to come out and be like, hey, listen, Alex says we're all going to die in eight years.
So since I believe Alex has been right about things the whole fucking time, we all have to go do shit now.
dan friesen
Right.
And Alex fucking believes that all these people actually believe him.
And then like, okay, look, the amount of money that Elon Musk has, for instance, Alex also has been saying that Elon Musk really believes in him and he's fighting the globalists and he's on Team Alex.
You know, all this.
So the money that Joe Rogan and Elon Musk have, they could get him out of trouble in a heartbeat.
Yeah.
And they don't.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
And you got to wonder why that is.
It's because it's fun to signal that you believe that Alex is right.
But when the rubber meets the road, no one gives a shit about him, and they don't actually believe this stuff because he's a madman yelling nonsense.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Why is Alex looking for $2 million from his audience if Elon Musk, 100% behind the movement, would give him the amount.
If he gave him $2 million, that's that is less than a penny to him.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And if it were legitimately and anybody believed that it was a matter of life and death that Alex be on the air, it would be so easy for him to raise this money from these right-wing ding-dongs and people he associates with.
It's just horseshit.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Anyway, we got some news.
alex jones
And I told you two-plus years ago they would start environmental lockdowns once you were trained to live under the viral lockdown.
And now India and Italy have announced lockdowns, rationing, electricity only certain times of day to, quote, save the earth.
And because, quote, the resources have been cut off from COVID, which wasn't COVID, but was the globalist using that as the pretext to destroy the global infrastructure.
dan friesen
The situations in India and Italy are far more complicated than Alex is reporting them because he has no idea what he's talking about.
And he's just skimmed a headline and now trying to make up what he thinks these articles are about so he can jam them into his narratives.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Let's start with Italy.
Alex is exaggerating an amendment to an Italian government energy decree that hasn't been fully vetted by the parliament yet.
If it passes, it would require that in the summer you not have your AC set lower than 25 degrees Celsius and in the winter you can't set your heat above 21 degrees Celsius.
jordan holmes
Man, that's really going to fuck up those robot caregivers.
dan friesen
It's true.
This is not a climate-related issue, nor is it even connected to COVID.
And it has to do with a sharp drop in gas supplies in Italy that comes from not dealing with Russia.
40% of Italian oil comes from Russia, so there's a considerable hit that they're taking, but they're trying to find ways to make this work.
The temperature decrees are one such effort, although I don't believe for a second that there will be a way that they could make this enforceable at all.
But as a way to make up for the lost imports, also, they're trying to cut new deals with the Republic of Congo and Angola to try and find some more resources.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
As for India, Alex doesn't even flash up a headline on screen with that one or cite a source, so I'm kind of left to my own devices to figure out what he's talking about.
Last October, there was a big deal with Indian power plants saying that they only had an average of four days' worth of coal in stock, which was due to a much larger constellation of influences than just COVID or any of this shit.
jordan holmes
I don't like Alex bringing up India on his show just because it's so vast and complicated that even if he studied it in real terms, he would be completely and woefully incapable of talking about it.
dan friesen
And the dynamics with the coal supply in that region of the world.
There's some talk of more coal-related issues in the present day, but there's also reports that the coal stock is fine.
It's actually kind of hard to tell what the situation is, but I can find no evidence of the claims that Alex is making about India.
And then with Italy, it's not the same thing that Alex is saying, but it is a decree that you got to keep your temperature in these lines.
It's like having a dad in your house who's worried about the thermostat.
jordan holmes
Put a sweater on.
I mean, you know, but that's really more of like a that's that's like a government saying, hey, we're all in this together.
You know, we've chosen this path forward as a team, and so we're also going to have to deal with the consequences as a team.
That makes sense.
dan friesen
And I can't fully understand how you would go about, like, do they have inspectors coming in with thermometers?
jordan holmes
Of course.
But, I mean, that's, again, that's the point.
It's like, this is not something we're going to come into your home, but we are doing a thing in support of Ukraine.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And I don't know.
So I guess the world is going to lose this kind of just stuff.
Great commentary.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Anyway, it should have been easy, this whole thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Defeating the globalists.
jordan holmes
I mean, we've been doing it for 20 years.
alex jones
It should be very easy to defeat.
If we're able to model it, break it down, chronicle it, and then get leaders who are compartmentalized to wake up.
It could have been stopped.
But now the collapse is unfolding.
And so now it's even more desperate that we warn everybody so they understand that those initiating the collapse and admitting they're doing it in their white papers are now the ones that are going to preside over the crisis and pose as the savior and just put out the cover story to the dumbed-down public, to the very simplistic public, to the one-dimensional public.
Oh, there's deadly viruses because of global warming.
Oh, there's collapse of the food chain because of global warming.
Oh, we've got to do all this because of you're bad.
Humans are bad.
And then they have the organized, collapse, depopulation, and total transhumanist takeover of whoever's left at the end of that beyond dystopic system that they have initiated.
dan friesen
Nothing in that clip has any relationship to reality.
It's all just Alex expressing his feelings of preemptive distrust about world events that haven't even happened yet and may not.
In the real world, there are very complete explanations for how changing climate has severe consequences in terms of famines and droughts.
So if there is a drought, scientists can say it was caused by climate change, and Alex can say it's a giant conspiracy proven by imaginary white papers, and then we reach an impasse.
As for the new exotic illnesses, it's super clear the role climate change has on that with animal habitats being altered, causing them to migrate to new areas and increasing the likelihood that they make contact with people where they wouldn't have otherwise.
This necessarily increases the odds that new viruses and bacteria can be exchanged, and from there, the potential for new outbreaks goes up.
Alex can sell his audience on his explanations for everything because his explanation for everything is the same.
It's all the globalists.
They're doing everything, and it's totally definitively proven in this document that Alex refuses to speak specifically about almost as if it doesn't exist.
And Alex doesn't want the audience to realize he's making all this shit up.
This is the same sort of dynamic he has with the prospect of climate refugees.
It's a preemptive explanation that it's all just the globalists, it's a conspiracy to attack all of us.
And there are just these things that are likely outcomes of the trends that we're seeing with the climate.
Whether it's a change in the amount of usable land that we have for farming or the likelihood of encountering species that could introduce new viruses and bacteria to these are real things.
He's created a preemptive excuse where it's all a conspiracy and it's all bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, the problem with the preemptive is that most of this stuff is currently happening.
You know, like this is not stuff.
This used to be the trends that you would talk about coming in the near future or, you know, short-term future, and it's fucking here.
So he's denying something that he can look outside and see.
dan friesen
In a fashion, it's happening.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it probably will be happening much more severely in a way that impacts people much more who are in his audience in the future.
True.
That's kind of what I mean by that.
But I do agree.
Your point is well taken.
That is a fair point.
So Alex, just rambling about extermination, how we're all going to die.
jordan holmes
We are on it today, huh?
dan friesen
It's on his mind.
Wow.
It's always on his mind.
alex jones
They write the articles all over the control corporate press about looking forward to the end of humanity in the Wall Street Journal, NBC News, the Times of London.
That's why they have articles everywhere saying we need dictatorship.
We need authoritarianism.
jordan holmes
Tons of artists.
alex jones
We're going to sexualize your children.
This is a coming out of evil.
This is hundreds of years of preparation and waiting and training and building their networks while they were rich and powerful presiding over humanity.
And now that we're entering the genesis of our next level, super technology, life extension, secrets of the universe, they want to gum everybody down further, kill everybody so that the general public does not have access to this because they know time and time again, out of the mass of the public, which on average is simple and dumbed down, super geniuses come out of those groups that innovate and always overthrow the previous elites.
Then they become decadent generationally and the cycle continues.
dan friesen
So now the story is that the globalists don't want all of us in the cheap seats getting our hands on life extension technology and they're going to need to kill off all the population because from the multitudes of the stupid masses, they fear that a super genius will arise to take down their system.
And I'm going to guess right now that Alex thinks he's that super genius.
jordan holmes
I would say that's a pretty good guess.
dan friesen
Either way, none of this means anything.
And I just want to touch on the articles that Alex mentioned at the top of the clip.
The first is that op-ed that Alex hasn't read but likes to say the title, and the other has to do with dictators.
This is Alex referencing an op-ed in Bloomberg titled, To Save Democracy, We Need a Few Good Dictators.
This was written by Robert Kaplan.
And if Alex knew anything about him, he'd know that Kaplan has been saying shit like this for over a decade.
Just a quick Google search turned up an article that he wrote in 2012 for Stratford named Good Mideast Dictators.
Kaplan isn't calling for a dictatorship in the United States.
His point is specifically about less developed countries and how oftentimes for citizens in those countries, the democratic process is less important than achieving fundamental rights and things that could be achieved within the context of greater stability.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I think a lot of his points are half-cooked at best, but Alex is absolutely misusing the headline of this opinion piece that he definitely didn't read so he can use it for his own purposes, which is his MO.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, if I remember, Kaplan, I've read some of that crap, and it's essentially like his shitty argument is like, right now, dictatorships are bad, that we want to get them towards a democratic system.
So we need some sort of philosopher king to bridge the gap between dictator and democracy.
dan friesen
I'm not sure.
I haven't read all of his articles, but the sense that I got was generally speaking that like a functioning democracy can grow out of stability and a strong institutional base.
But that is something that a lot of developing countries don't generally have when democracies are attempted.
Right.
And so I think that how he would put it is that a dictatorship would allow these countries to solidify, create better institutions, and then from there go into a democracy.
I don't know if I agree with this.
I don't know, but it's not the point that Alex is trying to make it out to be.
Nope.
And it was an op-ed.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
And it was a bad one.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But Alex has his hand on the pulse.
He knows about things.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, like what?
Well, those headlines, for instance.
unidentified
Does he?
dan friesen
Yep.
And other terms.
And history.
jordan holmes
No.
alex jones
Super geniuses come out of those groups that innovate and always overthrow the previous elites.
Then they become decadent generationally and the cycle continues.
The globalists call this, and Obama talks about it, the end of history.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Where there's a corporate total control over biological reproduction, over your mind, surveilling everything you do, so that the human system as we know it is ended because the Carnegie endowment that runs the CIA today at the end of World War I, I'm sorry, elections, was given the charter to end war.
And the answer was end men and women in the family, end all of human competition, to create a corporate, medical, biomedical tyranny over the public where humans are produced that are even allowed to live that are not purely human, but are chimeric species corporately owned.
And you see that, of course, in Brave New World published in 1931.
The brother of Huxley, Julian Huxley, Aldous Huxley's brother, goes on to create the UN, run the UN for two decades, create the transhumanist movement, launch the Tavistock Institute, the transgender system, all of it.
And this is it.
dan friesen
Alex is just talking out of his ass here, trying to grasp at whatever straws he thinks he can pull to sound like he's making a real point.
First problem is that he has no idea what the end of history refers to.
That term comes from a book written in 1992 by Francis Fukuyama.
The central thesis of the book is that no political philosophy is better than liberal democracy and that all human history is bending toward a greater number of people in the world living under liberal democracies.
The end of history is the state when all countries are democracies.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
Rightly so, since 1992, the book has been criticized as being very naive, and the current world would seem to concur.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex has no idea what he's talking about.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
The rest of that clip may as well have just been word salad with Alex just free associating as best as he can, but there's a few quick points I want to bring up.
One, the Carnegie Endowment doesn't run the CIA.
jordan holmes
Ah, now I'm confused.
dan friesen
Two, the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace did not decide to end war by ending men and women in the family and all that shit.
Carnegie was actually also a fan of competition.
Alex is confusing him with John D. Rockefeller, who said competition is a sin.
Three, the Carnegie Endowment didn't propose making the plot of Brave New World into a reality.
Four, Julian Huxley didn't found the UN.
He was the first Secretary General of the United Nations Educational and Scientific Organization, or UNESCO, a position he was in for two years, not 20.
Five, Julian Huxley didn't found the Tavistock Institute.
Six, Alex is confusing the Tavistock Institute and the Tavistock Clinic.
The clinic has a history of being involved in providing healthcare surrounding trans issues, whereas the Tavistock Institute is the center of a ton of dumb conspiracy theories.
The Institute is involved in research and projects largely relating to social sciences, so people have connected them to pretty much every conspiracy you can come up with.
When the Institute spun off from the clinic in 1947, the clinic remained as part of the NHS.
Those are six massive problems of the fun conspiracy that Alex is just riffing out on the show.
But if you're just passively listening to this and thinking Alex knows what he's talking about, it sounds like this guy really has put the pieces together, but it's total bullshit.
jordan holmes
I was listening to that and I was like, keeping count.
That was like a greatest hits in one sentence of the things that even I remember as being like, the moment he said Tavistock, I was like, nope, he got it wrong again every time.
Until the day we die, he's not going to understand Tavistock.
dan friesen
Yeah, and like he didn't even get the Carnegie Endowment like involvement after World War I conspiracy correct.
Because largely the conspiracy is that they decided that war was a preferable state and perpetual war.
And so that's why they made World War II happen.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
That's the conspiracy theory that exists largely.
Alex is inverting that entire thing.
jordan holmes
Conspiracy theories are very useful when you can make them up on the fly and don't need anybody to fact-check to you.
dan friesen
My man, that's why they exist.
jordan holmes
That is true.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex goes out to break on a grim note.
alex jones
I want to get into the current collapse mechanisms that are taking place and then the different pieces of how they're trying to outlaw dissent and silence any opposition ahead of this takeover.
But if we expose the globalist agenda and the WEF's agenda, then they're not going to get away with their final goal of using this collapse to totally depopulate and enslave us forever.
It'll be their waterloo and a new awakening and renaissance.
Must fight this.
unidentified
You trust your mother, right?
dan friesen
Love the little commercial accidentally.
I guess it is kind of stoppable, but I mean, the way he's still presenting this is like, yeah, we're all going to die, but if we do the right things afterwards, we'll be fine.
The survivors will be able to.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
He's Harry Seldon pulling some foundation bullshit on us, and the collapse will only be a thousand years instead of the 10,000 that has been prescribed.
dan friesen
I should be also clear.
Yeah, this is the first segment still.
jordan holmes
Yep, we're still in first segment.
dan friesen
This is up till like 14 minutes into the show.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
He is in a mood, and it is upsetting.
jordan holmes
God damn it, Dan.
I'm feeling upset about his mood so far.
It's really changed what we were talking fine before the show started.
Now I'm getting infected with it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
That's the gift of his oratory skills.
jordan holmes
Well, it's been a long 14 minutes.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex comes back from break.
And by that, I mean Alex doesn't come back from break.
jordan holmes
Oh, smart.
dan friesen
He's not there.
unidentified
Smart.
dan friesen
And instead, he's playing a clip of Tucker Carlson interviewing Alex's former employee, Savannah Hernandez.
Oh, boy.
And I found a couple things kind of interesting about this clip.
So I'm going to play a little bit of it.
unidentified
Maybe I didn't hold you.
tucker carlson
Interesting.
What did you think of Alex Jones?
savanah hernandez
Loved him to death.
I still talk to him to this day.
I think that he's great.
And I think that many more people should have been vocal when he was initially banned because I was actually there.
tucker carlson
He was on a fishing trip that day.
savanah hernandez
Yeah.
tucker carlson
I was in Labrador, and I've regretted it ever since that I didn't come out of the box.
I wasn't there.
jordan holmes
Wow.
You are dead, Tucker.
90% of the world's population is dead, especially you, because Patriots are fucking dead.
That's why Alex should still be on the air.
That's why he should still be on Twitter.
dan friesen
Don't you think it's so funny, though?
Yeah, I didn't support him because I was fishing that day.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
What about the next day?
jordan holmes
Nope.
If only.
By then, it was too late.
By then, it was too late.
dan friesen
Ooh, yeah, I was on a boat that was.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it was tragic.
dan friesen
I do love that.
So I think that all of Alex's employees, with the exception of maybe David Knight, maybe, he seemed to know some things.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He was wrong about a lot of stuff, but he seemed like he knew some things.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Pretty much everybody else that Alex has hired has been drastically unqualified.
Most of them won contests and ended up working there.
unidentified
True.
dan friesen
Owen Schroer bullied people at rallies, yelled at them, and then edited videos of himself doing that.
And also that great demo tape.
jordan holmes
Some people just make dank memes for him.
dan friesen
Sure.
Count Tatankula.
No, Carpe Donktum.
Yeah, so Savannah is talking to Tucker, and I think that she reveals that she was dreadfully unqualified.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
savanah hernandez
I really didn't have an introduction into politics, but I had learned a lot of things from Alex Jones up front, and everything that he was telling me was not false.
The people who condemn him and say that he's a crazy conspiracy theorist do not listen to his show every single day because I worked for him for two and a half years.
I didn't know the three branches of government when I started.
dan friesen
That's going to be, I think, probably a deal breaker if I'm running a news and political themed thing.
I would be like, well, maybe learn a little bit more and reapply.
I don't think that you can handle this.
But I think for Alex, it's actually perfect because she then knows so little that you get to inform all of her opinions and ideas about what is real and what is not.
jordan holmes
I think Alex specifically hires Tabula Rossas, if you will.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
For a reason.
dan friesen
I think it would have been an interesting follow-up question for Tucker to ask: what do you think the three-I was going to say?
jordan holmes
That's what the first thought I had was: are you sure you still do?
dan friesen
The Deep State.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The Patriots.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
That Tree of Liberty.
That's got to be one of them.
dan friesen
The Rhinos.
jordan holmes
No, the branches are on the Tree of Liberty.
God damn it.
dan friesen
So one more clip from this Tucker thing.
So Savannah is talking about why no one defended Alex when he was getting kicked off everything.
And this is just so fucking funny.
tucker carlson
Why do you think?
I've already said why I didn't defend Alex Jones the day he was deplatformed.
I wasn't in the country.
robert barnes
I was fishing.
tucker carlson
But why do you think that more in conservative media didn't take a principle stand against censorship when that happened?
savanah hernandez
Because Alex was off limits.
Look at the fact that right now, Tucker, so many in conservative media who wouldn't even mention Alex Jones' name now say his name on a regular basis.
Oh, Alex Jones is right.
Alex Jones is right.
We see this constantly, okay?
The people in the conservative media or in the right wing even will not latch on to a specific narrative or tell the truth until it goes mainstream and they're allowed to do it.
So even in the conservative right-wing faction, the reason why we lose is because we continue to wait for the left, the liberal media, the mainstream media to allow us to tell us when we are allowed to tell the truth.
dan friesen
She's talking about Tucker.
That's what Tucker did.
unidentified
That's exactly.
Yep.
jordan holmes
100%.
Exactly what Tucker did.
dan friesen
He might have been slightly ahead of some other folks, but some people still aren't.
jordan holmes
I mean, what I would have said very clearly is just, hey, Tucker, you've had plenty of InfoWars employees on your show in the past few years since Alex has been kicked off.
Why haven't you referenced them as InfoWars under their credits?
dan friesen
Well, not really.
jordan holmes
I mean, he said like three, right?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I mean, he said Savannah Hernandez.
Right.
He played that video of Harrison, but he didn't have him on.
jordan holmes
He didn't have him on.
Right.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Yeah, I imagine Rambo Joe Biggs might have showed up.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
But again, he hasn't pulled all this stuff and been like, directly from InfoWars, my buddy, you know.
Yeah.
He's very clearly not.
dan friesen
It seems like it should be the easiest thing in the world.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's their main credit.
dan friesen
Right.
But also, I think that an argument could be made that, like, okay, so you're arguing perhaps that maybe he should have had Alex on himself.
Because why not?
jordan holmes
I'm arguing that it's telling that he wouldn't reference them as being InfoWars employees.
Because they'll be taken more seriously.
dan friesen
Or have Alex on himself.
jordan holmes
Yes, absolutely.
dan friesen
Now, the reason I think he doesn't have Alex on himself is that maybe he realizes that that would be a disservice to trying to rehab Alex's information.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no.
dan friesen
Having Alex actually on probably would hurt the cause.
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
Alex, these people all have these very major and obvious criticisms of you.
What's your response?
I'm going to do all of those things.
dan friesen
Alex has a lampshade on his head yelling about human beings.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
That's why he got banned.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So they also play a clip of Mike Tyson on Rogan talking about how Alex is right about stuff.
And then Mike Tyson starts talking about how he's convinced that somewhere in the world, rich people are hunting poor people for sport.
Well, which Alex didn't really.
I don't know if that's one of his big issues.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, the plot of the most dangerous game is a very easy one to just transpose into real life.
dan friesen
It's been in a lot of movies.
Yeah.
Particularly one that the right wing got really upset about not too long ago.
So Alex comes back and he's introspective.
alex jones
And so my great frustration is this.
If you go back to shows we did 28 years ago, 25 years ago, 20 years ago, we talked about the plan to take over the infrastructure to slowly destroy civilization and to create a global collapse crisis out of which the one world government would take over.
Now, I don't deserve credit for knowing that.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
No, you don't.
dan friesen
This is a fairly generous way to sum up Alex's career, and I will grant that these are all themes that he's fiddled with throughout his time on air, but I have some serious problems with how this is being discussed.
The first is that he's being so vague as to render what he's saying meaningless.
You could define anything as slowly destroying society and then give yourself an unearned pat on the back.
The second problem is more serious, and that is that Alex didn't say that the globalists are trying to orchestrate a collapse for the past 28 years.
He said that specific things that have happened were the globalists trying to orchestrate a collapse that never came over and over and over.
Every year was the summer of rage.
Back when Alex was hawking Ted Anderson's gold, every single comment from the Fed and every geopolitical issue was proof that the globalists are about to crash the dollar, so you should probably buy some gold.
In the time Alex has been on air, there have even been actual collapses, and we've recovered from them, which shouldn't have happened if they were truly the globalist plots to bring in their one world government.
After 2008, 2009, it should have been over, and yet it wasn't.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
Alex isn't right, and he's never been right.
The only way to make him seem right is to take his statements completely out of context and deprive them of the meaning in which he said them.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Authorial intent is no longer as important towards critical theory.
However, in terms of finding out whether Alex is full of bullshit, it's kind of important.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
This clip here, where he's talking about how he doesn't deserve credit for the revelations he's had throughout his career, is a way for him to weave into getting into some of his major sources throughout his career.
And I'm going to take them one by one because I think it's a pretty shocking list.
And Alex definitely wouldn't cop to some of this at other points in his career.
This seems like a bit of a reveal.
So here's the first one.
alex jones
I don't deserve credit for knowing that.
John Coleman was high-level MI6.
He came out with the plan 30-plus years ago.
dan friesen
So John Coleman is not a name that you hear Alex throw around much.
And maybe part of that would have to do with the fact that Alex would sound a bit crazy if he did.
Coleman wrote a book in 1992 called Conspirators Hierarchy, The Story of the Committee of 300.
I can find no evidence that he's actually a former MI6, and given the track record of people who we run into from this show, I don't accept lofty resumes without some sort of verification.
It's possible that he was actually an agent, and I'll assume it is true because I don't care to fight.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know what's crazy?
He was also a black belt in jiu-jitsu.
He was also fought in World War I. You know, he's a decorated vet.
dan friesen
Yep.
So I decided to take a little look at this book, and immediately I had some problems.
In the introduction, Coleman is explaining that he came to the United States in 1969, and no one knew about all these secret societies that he was talking about.
So he put out a little tape to educate folks.
Then people started dropping all these names that like, you know, like they knew shit about the Venetian black nobility.
They didn't know anything about them.
This leads him to say, quote, I consoled myself with the thought that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
I pursued my investigations, pressing on in the face of severe risks, attacks on myself and my wife, financial losses, continual harassment, threats, and calumny, all part of a carefully crafted and orchestrated program to discredit me, run by government agents and informers, embedded in the so-called Christian right wing, the identity movement, and right-wing patriotic groups.
These agents operated and still operate under cover of strong and fearless outspoken opposition to Judaism, their main enemy, they would have us believe.
So if I understand correctly, these agents were sent into Christian identity movement type groups to discredit Coleman, and they maintained their cover by being really anti-Semitic so they would fit in.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So far, so good.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
False flag.
dan friesen
Coleman goes on to explain who these folks were.
Rollboy.
Quote, these agent informers are led and controlled by a group of homosexuals who are well-liked and well-respected by political and religious conservatives all across the United States.
jordan holmes
Wait, so these hidden people are undercover anti-Semites who are actually...
dan friesen
They're not actually anti-Semites.
They're doing that to protect their cover.
jordan holmes
Right, To protect their cover, but they're actually part of the gay agenda or whatever it is.
dan friesen
Well, I'm not sure if he's saying that they themselves are gay, but they're, yes, they work for well-liked and well-respected homosexuals.
jordan holmes
Yeah, okay.
dan friesen
It's a mess.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this group is a sprawling tome of bullshit.
At one point, Coleman claims that the Tavistock Institute created the Beatles in order to introduce destructive ideas into American culture, such as the words cool and teenager.
jordan holmes
That does sound true.
dan friesen
They achieved this by using 12 atonal music systems, quote, taken from the music of the cult of Dionysus and the ball priesthood of Adorno.
unidentified
That does explain why the Beatles got popular, because they were that good, man.
dan friesen
I was looking over his references page in his book, and I noticed a strange quote he was taking from an H.G. Wells book that seemed to be kind of foundational in terms of his argument that this committee of 300 had plans to kill everyone.
Coleman writes, quote, in this work, Wells describes how the new world order, which he calls the new republic, useless eaters, excess population will be getting rid of.
So, you know, they're going to kill off everybody.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
He cites this as coming from the open conspiracy, but it actually comes from another book altogether.
It's from the book Anticipations, which doesn't have quite as useful of a title.
The premise of anticipations is Wells dealing with future predictions.
Like one of the big ones is the invention and proliferation of the automobile.
And he predicts some stuff in this book, like that we're going to build a ton of roads and that cities will become more distributed, basically what we now call the suburbs.
Some of it's pretty like, yeah, right on.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Good work, H.G. Unfortunately, the last chapter of yours heavily into territory of eugenics.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
This sentence is particularly not great.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
Quote, they will hold, I anticipate, that a certain portion of the population, a small minority, for example, afflicted with indisputably transmittable diseases, with transmissible mental disorders, such as the hideous, incurable habits of mind as the craving for intoxication, exist only on sufferance, out of pity and patience, and on the understanding that they do not propagate.
And I don't foresee any reason to suppose that they will hesitate to kill when that sufferance is abused.
jordan holmes
God damn it, H.G. Paul F. Tompkins, come get your boy.
All right?
Sick of this.
dan friesen
There is no way around this.
That chapter is horrible.
So horrible, in fact, that within a few years of writing the book, Wells was arguing against these positions.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Smart.
Smart move.
dan friesen
This was published in 1901 and could be argued to be his first book of this sort.
And it's really only just a few years after he published The War of the Worlds.
None of this makes these positions in the text okay or any better, but it's disingenuous to characterize Wells' entire career based on this.
unidentified
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
I bring this up because this is a huge knock on Coleman's book.
A giant part of the whole conspiracy thing is that H.G. Wells' book proves that the elites plan to kill everyone off, and he gets the book wrong.
And it's not just in the reference pages.
When he's talking about the Committee of 300, he says, quote, it strives towards a one-world government, rather well described by one of its late members, H.G. Wells, in his work commissioned by the committee, which Wells boldly called the open conspiracy.
jordan holmes
Did King Leonidas call for that himself?
dan friesen
I do believe that it hearkens to that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's very clear.
dan friesen
The Committee of 300 also call themselves the Olympians.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
There we go.
There it was.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So the open conspiracy has a better name, and it was written 27 years later when Wells was in full swing in his philosophy career.
So it seems worse that he would be writing that kind of shit at that point.
I think that's part of this.
At this point, Coleman does something really sneaky, though, in the text.
He's established a pattern of presenting quotes from other texts in italics.
So he includes a mostly benign passage from Wells, then says, quote, like George Orwell's 1984, Wells's account is a mass appeal for a one-world government.
Summarized, the intent and purpose of the Committee of 300 is to bring to pass the following conditions.
After this point, there are three and a half full pages of italic text, which is obviously meant to give the appearance that this is something that Wells had written.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
And you can see this misrepresentation paying dividends to this day.
Some great reset conspiracy theory memes have reused part of this passage, some attributing it to Klaus Schwab and others to H.G. Wells.
But in reality, it's just something Coleman tried to pass off as a quotation by making it up himself and presenting it in italics.
jordan holmes
That's cheating.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
That's cheating.
dan friesen
Yep, the passage is as follows: quote, at least 4 billion useless eaters shall be eliminated by the year 2050 by means of limited wars, organized epidemics of fatal, rapid-acting diseases, and starvation.
Energy, food, and water shall be kept at subsistence levels for the non-elite, starting with the white populations of Western Europe and North America and then spreading to other races.
The population of Canada, Western Europe, and United States will be decimated more rapidly than on other continents until the world's population reaches a manageable level of 1 billion.
With 500 million will consist of Chinese and Japanese races, selected because they are people who have been regimented for centuries and who are accustomed to obeying authority without question.
jordan holmes
Really doesn't take much of a scratch to get to the racism under most, if not all, of these people.
Yeah, a lot of it's just a tiny little scratch, and you're like, Jesus, oh my God, it's blood racism spurting everywhere.
dan friesen
Yeah, but this is an abuse of the way the information's presented.
And you can trace it through misunderstandings and conspiracy bullshit since then.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, it is one of those things where it is so fascinating because we get to the, you find the progenitor of these things and it fucks you up because you kind of don't think these things have a real beginning.
You know, like they just kind of congeal.
You know, like the first time I found out Dusty Baker invented the high five.
It's like, that can't be real.
It's only that old.
dan friesen
I have bad news.
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
It was actually the Tavistock Institute.
jordan holmes
Wasn't it the Tavistock Clinic?
dan friesen
No.
Oh, I don't know if he actually was the original progenitor of these ideas.
But in his book, which is this revelation, and a lot of this traces back, like a lot of things, especially this H.G. Wells quotation being misused, it traces back to him, but he may have gotten it from some newsletter or something.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, that's fair.
dan friesen
That he read or some other bullshit.
jordan holmes
It could be Dash Anonymous.
dan friesen
I can't say that 100%, but yeah, this is a heavily influential thing that's totally full of shit.
Anyway, long story short, this book is full of shit, but you can definitely see how some of the ways that this has influenced Alex's worldview.
Also, there's a weirdly long section about the killing of Aldo Moro, and Steve Pieczenik doesn't come up at all, which I found offensive.
jordan holmes
That's crazy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
I don't know.
So Alex's first source is a crazy asshole who also thinks you can get arrested in Canada if you dare try to expose the fact that Jews run the country.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I forgot to mention that earlier.
It's in the book.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you didn't need to mention that.
dan friesen
Generally speaking, if you so we're off to a good start in terms of his citations.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Let's kick that guy into a giant hole and scream, this is Sparta.
dan friesen
Here's the next one.
alex jones
General Parton was the head of Air Force Weapons Development and the Secret Space Program.
He told me all of this.
dan friesen
So according to his profile on the Air Force's website, Benton Parton was a, quote, deputy for systems, aeronautical systems division at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.
In 1955, he did an exchange program with the Ballistics Research Laboratories, where he worked on an armament project, which led to him being assigned to the Air Weapons Directorate as a, quote, assistant for advanced weapons concepts.
By 1970, he was the commander of the Air Force Armaments Laboratories.
So there's definitely some truth that he had experience in this area and had a pretty good resume.
That said, I can find no evidence that he was in any secret space program, but I guess if I could, then it wouldn't be so secret.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, I assume he's still alive and ripped as shit.
So that would explain the whole secret.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
I think that the secret space program thing, Alex is mixing Parton up with General Stubblebein.
Yeah.
I think that he's conflating their importance in terms of his.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
Anyway, I have no idea what else Parton has told Alex, but his real claim to fame and main significance to the conspiracy world is that he insisted that the Oklahoma City bombing couldn't have been caused by McVeigh's bomb.
He tried to present his evidence to a grand jury, and they were not impressed and said, no, thank you.
All the same, he became a huge hero in the right-wing militia-type community because he lends an air of credibility to the theory that they need to be accepted to blame someone else for Timothy McVay's terrorism.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I've dabbled in Parton's stuff, and I don't really take any of it very seriously.
And I don't know how much he has to say outside of the OKC stuff.
So there's a weird inclusion in the list, unless Alex is just trying to come up with the most credible-sounding people that he's been able to get to be on his show.
jordan holmes
That has to be.
dan friesen
I guess.
jordan holmes
I mean, I assume the next one is just Zach.
dan friesen
No.
We pretend Zach didn't have it.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right.
We pretend Zach didn't have it.
dan friesen
That was fake news.
jordan holmes
That was a good one.
I liked Zach.
Come on.
dan friesen
Here's the next one.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
High-level FBI agent Ted Gunderson told me everything.
dan friesen
Ted Gunderson was at one point in the FBI.
However, he completely threw away his reputation by his insistence on fueling the fires of the satanic panic in general and the McMartin preschool case in specific.
We've gone over Ted a bit in the past, so I'm going to let this be a brief synopsis.
Ted was a craven, opportunistic lunatic whose actions hurt countless people.
And it makes sense that Alex is all reverent of him, though, since all Alex is doing is trying to profit off another satanic panic.
He's just trying to pull a Gunderson without having an impressive FBI resume to throw away doing it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, in his situation, that's way better than Gunderson's.
He's fine.
I mean, he's going to be sued into oblivion part.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So here, those are the three references he's got so far.
jordan holmes
I mean a series of luminaries, each at the top of their field.
They're the highest, they're top experts.
dan friesen
And then the band-aid comes off.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
alex jones
And those men now, in hindsight and the John Birch Society, got it 100% right.
We stand on their shoulders.
And there were so many other people.
I'm getting chills right now.
dan friesen
What an absolute pile of shit coward Alex is.
The reason he's getting chills is because he's finally just letting it out and expressing what he's believed all along, but tried to pretend he didn't.
For most of his career, Alex pretended not to be into the John Birch Society because he knew damn well that if he said that he was so deeply inspired by them, he would be seen as a bircher and no one would take him seriously because people were aware of the John Birch Society and thought they were a bunch of assholes.
People also correctly knew that they were an extremely right-wing organization.
There was no way to pretend to be above the left-right paradigm if everyone knew you were a bircher.
That would essentially brand you accurately as a fringe right-wing figure.
And then all the criticisms of people like Bush that you're making would be better understood for what they were.
Alex hid that stuff because it was important to his career and critical to him being taken at all seriously by anybody in the 90s.
Now, most of the idiots mindlessly tweeting Alex Jones was right memes probably have no idea who the Birchers were or what they stood for, so it's pretty much safe for him to come clean.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Alex has been pretty much mask off about his bigotry in the last few years, but this feels like an intellectual mask off kind of moment.
He's giving it up to his icons who are right about everything.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
A fraud lunatic, an OKC bombing truther, a guy who ruined countless people's lives in the Satanic Panic and the John Birch Society.
What a loser.
Wow.
Also, to be clear, if Alex believes that the JBS was right about everything, that's basically him opening declaring his opposition to civil rights.
Yeah.
Good for him.
jordan holmes
I mean, I think he was fairly open to that before, but if you say that you're a big fan of the John Birch Society and they were 100% right, you are also saying that we should live in a white male-dominated society purely of Protestant Christians.
dan friesen
And a lot of corporate interests ruling everything.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, I mean, that's just baked in there.
You know, you can't let rich people develop a far-right society.
That'll get you in trouble.
dan friesen
So after giving it up, relatively speaking, in my world, Somali pirates of existence, Alex brings up that he couldn't go on air last segment, and that's why he played those videos.
jordan holmes
He's crying.
dan friesen
There's weeping.
Might be a little bit of tears.
jordan holmes
Might be a little weeping.
dan friesen
Well, a little soft tears.
jordan holmes
A little soft.
dan friesen
But he's in a mood.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
He wants to say goodbye.
alex jones
And so I knew that the world's elite were planning this, and I knew that if we warned people, we would have a chance to stop it.
But I also thought about looking out into the future, what it would be like if we failed to stop the initiation of their final plan, what it would be like.
And last segment, I couldn't even go on air.
So I went ahead and aired some clips because this is like when I've had family members come to me and say, I love you a lot.
I really appreciate you.
And I've got terminal cancer.
And they say I'll be dead in six months.
It's happened a couple times.
And they smile at you and they tell you they love you.
And then you're at their funeral and they're dead.
And that's what this is.
I'm here telling you that I'm going to die.
You're going to die.
We're all going to die.
It's not like your grandma's sitting there having a cup of coffee across the table from you, telling her that she's always going to love you and always going to be there, but that she's going to die.
But life goes on through children and grandchildren, doesn't it?
Except under this plan, it doesn't go on.
So it's a death way worse.
dan friesen
Holy shit.
This is bad.
This is bad.
Jordan, I don't know why you're laughing.
jordan holmes
This is terrible news.
It's just so funny to me.
Not least of which, because this is more like your grandma coming to you for every six months for the past 20 years saying, I'm going to be dead in six months.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I'm going to be dead in six months.
dan friesen
Doing it a ton.
And then also conspicuously this time when it seems a little bit more severe than sometimes in the past, it coincides with her having a huge lawsuit that she's going to lose.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Hey, listen, I'm going to be dead in six months.
But what's important is now my narcissism has allowed me to finally cross that bridge and say, if I die, the world ends with me.
dan friesen
I mean, it is still just essentially a projection of his own individual experience being forced onto his audience.
jordan holmes
It is a narcissistic view that whatever is happening to me is happening to the world.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And look, I mean, this, you know, since all of your children are going to die, your ancestral memories won't be carried on into the future.
jordan holmes
It really bumps me up.
dan friesen
It is.
And you know what?
What's happening?
alex jones
What?
dan friesen
All of the ancestors from the past are crying out.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
And my other grandmother's saying, I want to go home to my family and God.
I'm going to stop eating.
At 92, I'm ready to die.
And you say, I understand.
I respect your decision.
But you know, they had a long life.
They live on through you.
And as long as you live on and your children live on and their children live on and we're good people, their life meant something.
And if they cut us off like this in this incredibly ancient journey of our species, it is a crime never before committed on this planet that is just so unspeakable that all our ancestors cry out.
And all of my will cries out and just begs all of you to realize there's a trillion distractions.
And they're all interesting and fun to cover.
And all this news is amazing.
But it's all part and parcel of the spiritual fall of man and the spiritual battle we're in.
And the fact that we're entering undoubtedly the end of days being initiated by the Antichrist forces making the way for their transhumanist God.
And so on my metaphysical knees, I beg you on my knees to realize that this is the truth.
This is the transmission.
This is the warning.
This is why they fear us.
This is why they hate me above anyone else.
It's because I know their plan.
And I was put in this position by God.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Chosen by God.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Yep.
dan friesen
Freaking me out.
jordan holmes
I am calling for a 10-year moratorium on the end times.
Nobody can claim it's the end times for a decade.
dan friesen
Give it a fucking break.
jordan holmes
Give it a just one decade.
dan friesen
Make us miss you.
jordan holmes
Not once in my entire life has it not been the end times.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, just give it 10 years.
Hey, frankly, maybe it's smart for you because that'll finally fucking happen if you shut up about it all the time.
dan friesen
In wrestling terms, the end times are overexposed.
jordan holmes
Yeah, You got to go away to come back, baby.
unidentified
Exactly.
dan friesen
You might need to go get a new gimmick.
jordan holmes
Yes, absolutely.
dan friesen
Bring it back and we'll like it more.
jordan holmes
Come back is stone cold.
That's the way you do it.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Stone cold, Steve Revelations.
dan friesen
Right.
You can't make it as stunning Steve Austin or the ringmaster.
unidentified
Got to go away.
dan friesen
Come back bald.
jordan holmes
That's the way you do it.
dan friesen
Yeah, so I guess the system hates Alex because God chose him to send this message of warning.
unidentified
This is again messed up.
dan friesen
Hey, Tucker, what do you think about this?
jordan holmes
I mean, wow.
Just real sad.
dan friesen
See, it's interesting that Savannah Hernandez will come on Tucker's show and say they hate Alex because he tells the truth and they're worried about how he is honest about things.
Whereas Alex's own version of it is the devil as manifested by social media companies.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
They're scared that he was chosen by God to destroy their plans.
And that's why the system hates him.
jordan holmes
I find it offensive that Savannah Hernandez.
Actually, I find it offensive that anybody on this fucking planet can say that the problem that you have is that you don't watch Alex every day.
Once you existed, that argument has gone across the world.
dan friesen
I should be totally transparent about this.
jordan holmes
I understand you don't watch it every day anymore now, but we're past that.
dan friesen
Yeah, there have been long stretches where I would watch more than one episode a day and I would watch him every day.
And I still watch way more than is healthy.
But yeah, I can't bear the boredom of watching every day.
jordan holmes
No one should.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But you did your time, is the point.
You did a two-stretch in solitary.
dan friesen
And I can, yeah, I can say pretty concretely that the problem isn't that.
jordan holmes
It is not that.
dan friesen
It's a load of shit.
jordan holmes
How dare you?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway, Alex was prepared to be this voice from God.
And he claims that he's been taught lesson after lesson after lesson.
And I would suggest that based on my experience with him, one of the things he's worst at is learning lessons.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
He does not learn shit.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Constantly make similar mistakes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
And I was put in this position by God.
None of it is me.
And I was carried along lesson after lesson after lesson.
You should sue God.
jordan holmes
None of them.
alex jones
I'm not prepared for where we are.
And you were prepared before.
You are where you are now to be a light in the world in this coming total darkness so that we can not let Satan have his total victory in the end.
Though the Bible tells us one-fourth of the earth will be killed before the plan is reversed.
And it is going to be our action that will reverse that plan.
And it's going to be rough and it's going to be hard.
And a lot of us aren't going to make it.
But that's okay because our spirits are eternal.
But I want you to know that I love you and I appreciate you.
jordan holmes
That's abusive.
alex jones
And I stand with you forever.
And I know you stand with me.
dan friesen
So a quarter of the world is going to die.
Best case scenario.
jordan holmes
Man, I'm telling you, it does not get more like, oh, that's how you were raised than a half-hour stretch of you're all going to die.
Everything's awful.
But listen, I love you.
dan friesen
This is like an hour.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
It's not a half hour.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's all that shit.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
And let's fucking stop pretending.
This is like a day and a half after he finished his money bomb.
unidentified
Yeah.
This isn't like less than 48 hours.
Money bomb.
dan friesen
He's trying to raise $2 billion to keep it floors on air.
Now we're all dead.
And no matter what we do, six months from now, okay.
jordan holmes
I think that's.
dan friesen
Refund these people's money then, you ask.
jordan holmes
That's a great point.
It hadn't occurred to me to connect those two very specifically.
If the world is going to end only 48 hours after a money bomb, the money bomb did not go well.
dan friesen
No, or conversely, it did go well.
He got what he needed out of it and also got some bad news.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He paid off that million-dollar sanction, probably, or at least recouped what he would owe.
And yeah, so now we're cooking.
Anyway, the devil doesn't want us to go to space.
jordan holmes
That's true.
alex jones
And there are a lot of very twisted, very old forces that hate us because of our success and what we've already done throughout the cosmos that are attempting to stop us here before this very important mission is launched.
Now that mission is taking place in the third heaven.
jordan holmes
What?
Fuck off.
alex jones
And I could not even try to describe to you that Just as they say one cannot be told about the Matrix, you must see the devil's false construct.
Well, it is even more intense to try to describe the next level.
dan friesen
So, is Alex implying that the mission is to go to space so he can be reinforcements for a battle in heaven?
jordan holmes
I guess.
dan friesen
It's kind of what it sounds like.
jordan holmes
Man, you know, what's weird about this in my head is that the Hubble Space Telescope is almost completely aligned.
It's almost perfect.
Right now, they have sent back the most highest resolution image we can literally see in a photograph billions of years in the past.
Billions, almost to the very beginning of the universe.
Did you see a third heaven in there?
dan friesen
No, but why would you?
jordan holmes
Well, that's fair.
dan friesen
So, the use of the term third heaven is kind of on brand for Alex, actually.
I don't know if you know that term.
It's a little bit strange to hear.
jordan holmes
I don't.
dan friesen
It's a term associated with the Church of Latter-day Saints, largely.
And, you know, a lot of figures that Alex looks up to from the extreme right-wing anti-communism world were Mormons.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
Folks like the Skousen family, for instance.
unidentified
Right, right.
dan friesen
There are references to the third heaven in extra-biblical texts, but also one in 2 Corinthians in the Bible.
And the conventional understanding that usually is thrown around is that the first heaven is the sky, the second is space, and then the third is where the angels and God live.
Boo!
But it's pretty obscure terminology, so it's weird for Alex to be using it.
Also, great to hear that Alex is reporting to his audience that there's a war going on in heaven.
jordan holmes
I just there's never a moment's peace.
That's the worst part.
Even though he's been yelling at us all this time about how he's safe in God and everything's perfect, all of a sudden now I found out even when I die, I'm going to have to go fight another fucking war.
That's brutal.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This is a shit universe.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I hope he's wrong.
I hope he's wrong.
dan friesen
I have great news.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
dan friesen
But even if he is right, don't be mad at God.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
If we are faithful and have courage and believe in God, God is going to give you the discernment and the blueprint and the download to defeat this.
And that is the great solace we have.
But we must not hate God for being angry that we were being put through this because this is the experience of free will.
This is the gift of consciousness and eternity.
We must first, before we're given godlike power, face evil so that we know it and have physically, cellularly felt it so that we will not be part of it in the future.
This is a cleansing.
This is a ritual God is going to put us through.
This is our boot camp and we will prevail.
Jesus Christ is Lord and Savior.
dan friesen
So I guess a quarter of the world dying is a cleansing ritual.
alex jones
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Sweet.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Sweet.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So wait, is he for or against 90% of the population?
dan friesen
He's at least in favor, it seems, of a quarter.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, it seems 90s too much.
jordan holmes
It really does seem like God's plan and the globalist plan sooner or later start dovetailing together every time he starts revealing them.
dan friesen
It's what they call kind of like a continuum problem.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
It's like one is too high, the other's too low.
So there's got to be a sweet spot in the middle.
jordan holmes
But you can never find the exact sweet spot.
dan friesen
Is there 40% of the world dying?
Is that okay, Alex?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I don't know.
Anything over 50 is unacceptable, obviously.
dan friesen
Well, if the globalists are to kill off a quarter of the population, then I guess that what Alex is describing is that's God's will.
Like they're carrying out God's will.
I don't know.
This is just dumb.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Anyway, now everything changes.
Good.
jordan holmes
And now for something completely different.
dan friesen
Right, because the second hour starts and Roger Stone shows up.
jordan holmes
God, no.
Fuck off.
dan friesen
So here's where we're at.
jordan holmes
Okay.
roger stone
As our mutual friend Tucker Carlson says, they don't act like people who have a lot of time.
They act like people who are frantic to cancel the Constitution and our freedoms because they are running out of time.
They know they're a minority.
They know that we are the majority.
They know people are waking up.
They know InfoWars and frankspeech.com and a handful of others, Real America's Voice, right-side broadcasting.
There's a very few patriotic outlets out there where the truth can still be heard, but the American people are waking up, and that's because of InfoWars.
alex jones
I agree.
And I want to tell the globalists, even if they can shut down OEN or you or I or anybody else, the public gets what's happened now and that there's a foreign globalist pro-CHI-COM force destroying us.
So even if they silence all of us, America's too far awake now.
No matter what they pull or what they do, I don't see them getting out of this.
roger stone
I agree with that, Alex.
dan friesen
Wait, so we can win now?
jordan holmes
No, we were all going to die.
I know.
He apologized and said sorry and said we were all going to die.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
And then he said he loved us.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
And now we're going to be fine.
dan friesen
Yep.
Roger's here now.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This hurts so much.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Roger believes that, look, GOP can win whatever in the midterms.
But the key, the key.
jordan holmes
What's the key?
dan friesen
Having some crazy people in there.
unidentified
Well, yeah.
dan friesen
Some like real fringe lunatics.
unidentified
Got ass.
dan friesen
Margin Taylor Greene types.
jordan holmes
She's got to be.
dan friesen
That's the key.
jordan holmes
That is the key.
dan friesen
And because that's the key, you should not donate to the GOP.
roger stone
People who voted for Joe Biden come up to me in public and say, what a mistake they made.
So there is a red tide coming, but it's important that people understand that the election of a Republican majority in the House and the Senate will change nothing whatsoever.
The key here is to have a subset of patriots in both houses.
It could be 10 to 15 stout men and women in the House, as many as three or four in the Senate, who can use their leverage to change the agenda and save the country.
alex jones
I want you to stop because what you're saying is the key to everything.
The Republican establishment, the neocons are allied with the Democrat deep state, the permanent state, to shut down a populist movement that they fear that came through Trump, now the Santa's, and others.
And so the key here is realizing just getting Republicans elected is not a panacea.
It's having those hardcore groups to blow the whistle, to bully pulpit, and expose what happens to be that key swing vote.
roger stone
There's no question.
And people who are still sending their money to the Republican National Committee or sending their money to the Republican Congressional Committee, the Senatorial Committee, please, folks, go to the Infor site, send that contribution here or send it to my legal defense funds.
alex jones
Yeah, the Democrats aren't attacking the mainline Republicans.
They're attacking us.
dan friesen
So, Alex, you know, I don't even understand.
Like, why does the margins of electoral, like, why does having a few people in there matter?
This is unsolved.
jordan holmes
No, I think Roger Stone is right.
dan friesen
No, Roger is right.
alex jones
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
No, I mean, like, for his worldview.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.
dan friesen
Yeah.
No, I mean, strategically, he's correct.
Having some crazy people in there in order to be blocks that the mainline party needs in order to get things done is the best way to force your agenda through.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Roger does need fucking money for his legal fees.
jordan holmes
There you go.
dan friesen
So, yes, he's coming from a place that makes coherent sense.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Alex does not, based on the rest of this show up until this point.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
It's ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
But, you know, here's what I'm aware of now: that hour by hour, whether or not we live or die.
This is like Schrödinger's genocide.
dan friesen
No, yeah, I totally agree.
And I also think that, like, I can't, I can't put this more bluntly than the experience of listening to this show, if you believe him, has got to be bewildering and threatening.
Painful.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, that's.
dan friesen
You can't go through the emotional experience of what that first hour would have been to someone who believes him.
And then the jarring arrival of Roger Stone, and it seems like nothing.
jordan holmes
Everything's fine.
dan friesen
Nothing that was said earlier matters or was real.
Now electoral victories are somehow relevant.
Again, it's ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Insane.
dan friesen
Anyway, Biden's going to be gone soon.
unidentified
Sure.
roger stone
So I predict that after the election, they themselves will enact the 25th Amendment and remove him.
And they will lionize him while they're doing it.
This great statesman is just too ill to do the job.
He gave 100% to his country, but now, because he's not well, we have to sideline him for his own good.
Remember, it takes a majority of the cabinet plus the vice president under the 25th Amendment to remove Joe Biden.
alex jones
So when does it happen?
roger stone
Right after the election, almost immediately after the election.
dan friesen
So let's keep an eye on that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, so who's going to be the new president this time?
dan friesen
Well, Kamala Harris, probably.
jordan holmes
Sure, but I mean, that's boring for the globalists.
So we got to bring back Hillary, right?
dan friesen
No, so here's what's going to happen: Kamala Harris will become president.
roger stone
Sure.
dan friesen
And then the speaker will be vice president, right?
jordan holmes
No, that's not how that works.
dan friesen
No, they appoint a vice president, right?
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yes, that'll be Hillary.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then Kamala will step down.
Hillary will become president.
She'll bring in Satan.
jordan holmes
And then Obama will be the king of hell because he's the Muslim Islam.
Yeah, he's like the caliphate.
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Like, isn't that what we're and then all the senators will become dukes and duchesses?
unidentified
Of course.
jordan holmes
Let's bring it all together, man.
Sure.
All in one.
How many times have we heard that the president is going to be removed and replaced by the vice president?
dan friesen
Yeah, and but I mean, we got a real hard deadline on this one, so let's see what happens.
jordan holmes
Sounds nice.
dan friesen
Anyway, Roger also thinks that Kevin McCarthy, the leader of the GOP, is not cutthroat enough.
He's not up to the task.
roger stone
But we already have from McCarthy.
There it is.
He doesn't, he's not playing for keeps.
This guy doesn't have the courage to be revealing and take the fight to the Democrats.
alex jones
I'm not against gay people.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
He lives with Frank Luntz.
Is he blackmailed?
Is he like the wife of Frank Luntz or is he the husband?
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
Yeah, that's where Alex's mind goes.
jordan holmes
Wild.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
A lot of revealing sort of thought patterns here.
Alex seems to be living in some kind of like he's trapped in those early days of anti-communism.
jordan holmes
Yeah, when you could still just be on out and out.
Hey, man, if he's gay, we can probably blackmail him.
That's probably how it's going to work.
You can be, no, you don't have to be anymore.
dan friesen
I saw you taking notes there.
jordan holmes
I just think that Roger saying not playing for Keeps is the most revealing statement that you could make because, yes, he's right.
Kevin McCarthy is playing for an election.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Assuming that one can be won or lost.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Roger Stone is playing for Keeps for no election.
Keep the power.
Yes.
dan friesen
Forever.
Absolutely.
And I think a part of that also is the preemptive declaration that the election will be stolen.
roger stone
Of course.
dan friesen
That's part of that playing for Keeps.
jordan holmes
Always.
dan friesen
And so here's Roger getting into that act.
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
Obviously, the Democrats aren't going to let us have a free election.
They already stole the last.
They want to outlaw questioning election outcomes.
What are you predicting for 2022?
roger stone
My prediction is pretty dire.
I'm predicting a new pandemic of some kind that begins in September.
They will then use that pandemic as an excuse for lockdowns.
But more precisely, they will rush through legislation which will be signed that says all voting has to be by mail because it's too dangerous for folks to go to polling places.
It's too dangerous for them to actually show up on one day and vote.
Here's the tip off, Alex.
I don't think anybody voted for Macron.
dan friesen
Interesting.
Interesting.
jordan holmes
I don't think anybody voted for Macron.
dan friesen
Nobody.
jordan holmes
Nobody.
dan friesen
It's got to be great to be someone on InfoWars because you can just improvise stuff and riff thoughts and call them predictions, and then there is no consequence when all of your predictions are shit.
Yep.
It's great.
jordan holmes
I don't think it should be against the law to claim that an election is stolen.
Of course not.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
I do think there should be stakes at this point.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
If you're going to claim that the election is stolen, you've got to have something that's hanging over your head if you're wrong.
dan friesen
Yeah, there should.
Well, I don't know.
I mean, like, let's let's take it to a place where the stakes are even just understood under the terms of like credibility.
jordan holmes
You have to tattoo on your forehead, I was wrong about the election being stolen forever.
So if you do TV, then guess what?
Everybody's going to see the first thing.
I was wrong about the election being stolen.
dan friesen
I think maybe I'm okay with that in a metaphorical sense.
But yeah, there should be some sort of a consequence is a broad term.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think that there should be some kind of like detriment to, but I think that's the same thing with like so much of the Infowars stuff.
There should be a hundred albatrosses around Alex's neck for all the failed nonsense bullshit that he's carrying around with him and pretending he never said.
And the same thing I'm sure will likely be the case with Roger.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
No, that's what I'm saying.
We need to turn the albatross from metaphorical to literal.
You have to wear a shirt that says you are.
There needs to be a public and constant reminder of what you are.
dan friesen
I think what you're getting at and what I'm getting at too is that like the reason that this is allowed to go on and they can get away with it is there's literally no accountability.
None.
And somehow that changing would be beneficial.
Yes.
jordan holmes
My ideas are probably not the best.
dan friesen
I mean, I think they work.
jordan holmes
Wow, the Scarlet Letter didn't work.
Quote unquote.
dan friesen
Define work.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
So anyway, earlier in the show, we heard Alex say that God chose him for this mission.
jordan holmes
Yes, it did.
dan friesen
Now he's hedging things a little.
alex jones
I'm not trying to sit up here and say I'm a revolutionary leader and I'm an important person.
The globalists see me as that and they see Donald Trump and Roger Stone and a few others as that.
So we are your champions.
You are our champions to keep us in the fight.
But when I tell you that this is big leagues and we're taking them on at point-blank range and we don't back down, that's why they run stories saying, oh, we're backing down.
We're coming into them because they know our power is that we haven't backed down.
So I'm asking you, and I want to thank all the people that made donations at InfoWarstore.com.
Right there at the top, it says be a sponsor, make a donation.
I want to thank you and salute you.
You are 1776 2.0.
I want to encourage everybody to get t-shirts, books, films.
Alex Jones is right.
You name it.
At InfoWarstore.com and X2.
dan friesen
Roger seems to have reinvigorated Alex's belief that tomorrow exists.
unidentified
I'm just so tired.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It is exhausting.
jordan holmes
They really do have a lot more energy than I do, apparently.
Or it takes less energy to be full of shit than it does to figure out they're full of shit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think trying to disentangle their nonsense is exhausting.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That makes more sense.
dan friesen
This is a load of shit.
Absurd.
Roger is basically expressing, well, he'll say that it's not support of Russia.
But functionally, it is.
jordan holmes
Sure, yes.
Well, yeah.
dan friesen
And then Alex says something real weird.
roger stone
My family members were mowed down by Russian tanks in Budapest in 1956.
But if you're Alex Jones or you're Tucker Carlson or you're Roger Stone and you tell the truth about what's really happening in Ukraine, that Zelensky is an actor, an actor with a multi-million dollar condominium in Miami Beach, by the way.
alex jones
And we're not against him that he was a gay porn star.
It's just the fact that they bribe him with that.
They blackmail him.
roger stone
He's an actor.
He's playing the role of a president.
This war is not about what they say it's about.
dan friesen
So this is a narrative that's based on a comedy sketch that Zelensky did back in his acting days that right-wing Putin stooge crowds have discovered, and they're pretending it's gay porn.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
It's pretty telling that Alex is pushing this very stupid and false talking point, and it really illustrates how bad the information he passes on to his audience is.
So this is the second time that he's used false or misleading information to claim that someone's gay and being blackmailed.
Seems like more than should happen in a day.
jordan holmes
It's very weird.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's very weird.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Seems to be where his mind is going a bit.
And I think that's...
alex jones
Wow.
jordan holmes
God damn.
If your ancestors are your race memory...
dan friesen
They're crying out.
jordan holmes
And they are crying out because of stuff.
I would imagine that if I was Roger Stone's ancestor who had been murdered by the Russians, I would not be on board with InfoWars.
alex jones
Oh.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Or InfoWars.
dan friesen
Get out.
Get out.
jordan holmes
I'm just saying maybe they're crying out.
dan friesen
So the third hour is Roger and Alex hanging out with Bobby Barnes.
Robert Barnes comes in to give some world analysis.
jordan holmes
What a trio of shitbags.
dan friesen
Yes.
And I don't care.
I'm not interested at all.
I listened to it and was bored, but he did say one thing that I just felt like I want to touch on.
robert barnes
One little component about the French elections today: Le Pen lost.
There were some anomalies being reported out of the French elections.
In particular, territories outside of the continental control.
In other words, places like Martinique, Guadalupe, et cetera.
These places showed a 30 to 40 point swing from 2017 to 2022 in favor of Le Pen.
Yet no place inside the continent on the continent in France showed any such similar swing.
alex jones
Exactly.
The few places where they weren't federally controlled, she won massively, but everywhere else she lost.
robert barnes
Exactly.
And these were places that she lost by 50 points last time that she won.
I mean, that kind of margin swing.
dan friesen
See, this is a fun game.
Marie and Le Pen did much better than expected in French territories outside the borders of France, like Guadeloupe, Martinique, and Réunion.
In order to explain this, Barnes has decided to suggest that this is proof that Macron was able to steal the election in places inside France, but somehow wasn't able to affect the vote totals in these other territories.
jordan holmes
It's too far away.
dan friesen
Using the exact same information and evidence, why not play the opposite game and craft a conspiracy that Le Pen was able to steal a lot more votes in these territories because they were outside of the country's borders?
You could use the geographical distance to pretend that they must have shoddy ballot controls.
jordan holmes
No, you're using a different point of view.
unidentified
No!
Right.
dan friesen
I mean, it makes just as much sense.
It's all arbitrary bullshit.
The point here is that this conspiracy hinges on nothing, and the alternative conspiracy makes as much sense.
Barnes is covering the story this way because Le Pen is an extreme right-wing figure who matches the model of a leader Barnes would want in the world.
So regardless of how dumb the excuse is, every failing of such a leader needs to be explained by them getting screwed by some vast conspiracy.
In reality, Le Pen and Macron both lost in the first round of voting in these overseas territories to the far left candidate, Jean-Luc Malachon, which helps inform the context of the later vote.
There's one element of this that reflects the far right mobilizing some votes, but probably a much larger part of it is people in these territories not liking how things are going for them under Macron and voting against him as opposed to voting for Le Pen.
It's a bit unpredicted, and political scientists who spoke to The Guardian were caught slightly off guard, but it also makes complete sense.
People in these territories have different immediate concerns than folks in mainland France, and it makes sense that you might see slightly different voting patterns based on those immediate differences.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it's not like Macron or the last president or the president before that or the president before that has really done much to make their lives a lot better.
So fuck them.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's kind of the way they and their preferred candidate was going to try.
dan friesen
Presumably.
unidentified
Yeah.
Or.
jordan holmes
Or.
dan friesen
Maybe Macron did rig all of the votes in France, but somehow wasn't able to or forgot to do the overseas votes.
I maybe that's what happened.
jordan holmes
I love the idea that no one voted for Macron.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
I want it.
dan friesen
Well, that's Roger's idea.
Barnes, a little more nuanced.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
But still.
unidentified
True.
jordan holmes
He's not willing to take the big swing yet.
dan friesen
No, no.
He needs to train under Steve.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we come to the end of this.
And man, I will say, I don't know what to think, honestly.
Like, obviously, the second and third hours, when Alex has people around, he's certainly in a much different mood.
But the first hour rings true to me in a way that a lot of times things don't because it is incessant.
It goes on and on.
robert barnes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He doesn't storm off.
He just doesn't start the second segment when he plays clips.
It feels more like somebody who's actually in a like, we're fucked.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
I personally don't appreciate being told I'm going to die by anybody.
I mean, you know, like, I don't think it's fun.
Generally speaking, it's been prior to some very negative outcomes.
And then the other time it was like, you know, it's a doctor.
But what are you going to do?
dan friesen
But this is disorienting.
Yes.
And I'm interested to see where it goes.
We're recording this on Tuesday, and I tuned into a little bit of his show today.
And he was back in a down mood when he was talking alone.
jordan holmes
Well, that's good.
dan friesen
He was responding to the news that Elon Musk had bought Twitter and he was not convinced it was going to change much.
jordan holmes
That's the first good analysis I think I've seen from him in a long, long time.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's like, maybe we'll get back on.
We'll see.
Still kind of morose.
I don't know.
I tend to believe that the first hour was him externalizing and projecting his own situation on the audience.
The legal situation that he's in is unstoppable at this point.
And so the globalist doom is unstoppable at this point.
Once he had someone like Roger around and then Barnes, they could bounce off each other and some of that gloom lifted for him and he kind of forgot about his troubles and got excited riffing around about maybe some people are gay and black male.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
No, when I'm on my downstate and I'm left alone with my thoughts, that's the worst time to be left alone with my thoughts.
I'm grateful that I don't have a radio show that I have to do so I can project them onto everybody.
dan friesen
Filling an hour telling everyone they're going to die.
jordan holmes
So great.
Every time I'm always like, thank God I'm not telling everybody they're going to die right now.
dan friesen
The bottom line that I would say, and like regardless of what the explanation for any of this stuff is, the central thing is this is fucking irresponsible.
You can't do shit like this.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
You can't.
Because he's not saying these kind of things as abstract possibilities.
He's saying this can't be stopped within a few years.
At least a quarter of the world will be dead because of the globalist plans that, again, cannot be stopped.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
And then dicking around about like trivial electoral politics and who Trump is going to endorse the next hour.
It's inappropriate.
This is just bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it would be a little bit like, hey, everybody's going to die.
All right.
Now, let's get to the Kardashians lawsuit.
And you're like, okay, all right.
dan friesen
And you should take this lawsuit very seriously.
jordan holmes
Very seriously.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's very important to saving us from 90% dead or whatever.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I'm interested to see what comes of this, but it may be nothing or, hey, maybe Alex will be off air.
unidentified
We'll see.
dan friesen
Who knows?
jordan holmes
Let's hope.
dan friesen
I don't have a whole lot of faith in making that prediction based on my years of hearing him say doom and gloom stuff.
But again, there is something that feels different about this.
But who knows?
Maybe that's just me overthinking.
Anyway, we'll be back and we'll see if Alex is correct.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
TadKnowledge underscore fight.
Now, go to Bed Jordan.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'd like to wish you all a happy, dreamy, creamy summer.
And now here comes the sex robot.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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