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April 20, 2022 - Knowledge Fight
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#672: April 18, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan check in to see how Alex is doing in the present. In this installment, Alex talks about needing money, complains about his lawsuits, and then briefly touches on how he needs money.

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alex jones
22:04
d
dan friesen
33:28
j
jordan holmes
17:26
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j
jimmy dore
00:06
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steve quayle
00:02
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
Knowledge fight.
I need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Stop it.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your word.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot?
dan friesen
The summer of Dreamy Creamy.
Dreamy Creamy Summer is upon us.
jordan holmes
Dreamy Creamy Summer has begun!
dan friesen
And it will be kicking off.
I'm not going to eat on air because it's gross.
unidentified
No, you are not.
dan friesen
You are not.
Especially like an ice cream novelty would be so disgusting to listen to and to the mics.
jordan holmes
I think it would be fun for the audience to hear me jump across the table and slap it out of your hands.
dan friesen
Sure.
Well, we could do that with like just Foley work.
jordan holmes
Sure, that's true.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's probably how it would have sounded.
jordan holmes
Yep, something like that.
dan friesen
So, the first entry into the Dreamy Creamy Summer.
We're kicking it off with a classic.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Chipwitch.
jordan holmes
Chipwitch.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chocolate chip ice cream sandwich.
dan friesen
Chipwitch.
jordan holmes
Delicious.
Non-stop goodness.
dan friesen
Chocolate chip cookies that are just nice and soft.
Good, soft bake.
jordan holmes
Gotta be soft.
dan friesen
Right?
jordan holmes
Can't be crunchy.
dan friesen
In the middle.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Some nice ice cream.
Mm-hmm.
Surrounding the ice cream.
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
Mini chocolate chips.
jordan holmes
Oh, on the sides.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's the stuff.
dan friesen
Chip witch.
unidentified
How big?
jordan holmes
How big are we talking about ice cream sandwich-wise?
Are we talking about full inch size, or are we talking about the smaller ones?
dan friesen
Oh, no, it's big-ish.
jordan holmes
It's a big-ish?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, what, an inch is big?
jordan holmes
I have no idea.
I've never...
Honestly, I don't know how big an inch is in my brain.
dan friesen
Ice cream sandwiches.
jordan holmes
If I visualized an inch, it could be anywhere from here to, like...
Ten feet.
dan friesen
I have no idea.
Your finger measurements were a little bit suspicious.
jordan holmes
Is this an inch idea?
dan friesen
Something like that.
It's great.
Great way to start the Dreamy Creamy Summer.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
I'm very excited to see where this goes.
I think I know where it's going to go.
More ice cream.
jordan holmes
Deliciously with more ice cream.
dan friesen
But I do think that eventually I'm going to have to run into something that is objectionable, right?
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I'm going to have to try some flavor of something.
jordan holmes
Right.
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Oh, dear God, what is this?
jordan holmes
I think you do have to set aside some choices that are purely for that edge level of, like, I don't know if this is going to be good.
dan friesen
Well, of course.
I mean, like, you know, I'm drawn to novelty.
jordan holmes
Of course.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
That will inevitably happen, but, you know, I might have to seek it out a little bit more than in other cases.
So, I'm excited.
What's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot, Dan, is my partner, as you know.
She grew up in Maine for a lot of her childhood.
Still has some friends out there.
We got sent a wedding gift this morning from Maine.
Do you know what it was?
dan friesen
Lobster.
jordan holmes
Yes!
dan friesen
Oh, wow.
Okay.
Sorry.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
I didn't mean to.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm saying.
dan friesen
This feels really deflating.
jordan holmes
No, absolutely not.
It's lobster, and she left me alone with lobster.
Do you know how well I reacted whenever I opened it, and they're alive?
dan friesen
Oh.
jordan holmes
Not well.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Not well.
unidentified
No, you have pets.
jordan holmes
They were like, put them in the refrigerator.
I was like, with my hands?
No!
Their little legs move.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No, it was very uncomfortable.
dan friesen
Did you let them go in the backyard?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was very close.
Be free!
dan friesen
Lobsters, you are, I have emancipated.
jordan holmes
There's a man and a woman.
I'm going to put them into the lake all of a sudden.
We're going to have Maine lobsters in Lake Michigan all year round.
dan friesen
I think they could survive quite easily.
That's a really tough situation to be in, because obviously, I'm sure you want to eat lobster, but they're alive.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so now you have to emotionally deal with...
jordan holmes
I'm not doing well with it.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
I've already made it clear to him.
My partner's very excited.
She grew up there...
dan friesen
Is she cold-hearted enough to take these lobsters back?
jordan holmes
No heart.
Just grinching it up as she drops them into boiling water.
You know what she doesn't do?
Cry when she reads Where the Red Fern Grows.
Nothing inside.
This is all brutal.
dan friesen
Well, I wish you well and your lobster...
jordan holmes
We'll see what happens.
dan friesen
How many did you get?
jordan holmes
Two.
dan friesen
Okay.
If there was three, I want one as a pet.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, of course.
If there were three, I would have walked in here with a lobster on my shoulder like a pirate.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
We're going to be talking about April 18th, 2022.
That's Monday to you.
jordan holmes
Nope, we're not doing that.
Isn't that Wednesday?
dan friesen
No, it is Monday.
It feels close to being alright as a way to say a date.
It rhymes, and so there's obviously something to it.
jordan holmes
The meter is always wrong, though, by just a little bit.
dan friesen
Well, that's because the date is long.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Yep.
So this is obviously the day after news had broken of Alex declaring bankruptcy.
And so obviously I think a lot of people are going to be interested in Alex's response.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Get ready for a lot of ads.
Just gonna say that right up front.
There's a lot of that.
jordan holmes
It is funny.
A lot of people are like, ooh, what's he gonna say about his bankruptcy filings?
Is he going to be like, I'm still fighting?
Or is he gonna be like, no.
The real answer is, he's gonna try and get more money.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Get ready for a good bit of that, because if you're looking for content...
Light.
jordan holmes
Light.
dan friesen
Not a lot of things I needed to dig into, let's say.
jordan holmes
Why do I feel like most of the time it's just going to be...
Listen, if I did declare bankruptcy, which I'm not confirming, my lawyers haven't said anything about that, then what you need to know is that I'm still great.
I'm still fine.
Nothing to worry about.
I need as much money as humanly possible right now, though.
Unrelated.
dan friesen
I don't think you're far off.
jordan holmes
Okay, never mind then.
dan friesen
So we'll see how far off you are.
But first, Jordan, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Bill Ogden's Big Bag of Gummy Worms.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, New You Are Yawa Wallacey Punk.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
They try to trip me up and they can't do it.
jordan holmes
That was well done.
unidentified
They can't do it.
jordan holmes
That was well done.
That was a cold read.
dan friesen
Liz, you got...
Liz got promoted.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much and congratulations!
dan friesen
Yeah, next to Yokohama Dave, thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
And I go through these messages with getting policy wonk names in the order that they came in.
jordan holmes
How far behind might we be on this one?
dan friesen
A few weeks.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
But unfortunately, there's a little bit of a theme in a couple names that I have.
And they have to do with happy anniversary.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
And we're right on time.
We're right on time.
dan friesen
So, when I say these shoutouts, whoever is sending them, they did the best they could to do something special for an anniversary.
This is my fault.
So if you're their partner, please know that they did not send a message late.
This one's on me.
So thank you so much to Simply Nice Mike.
You are now policy wonk and happy anniversary.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you very much.
And 18 years of marriage and all I got you was this wonk status.
Happy anniversary, Jenny.
Thank you so much.
You're now policy wonk and happy anniversary.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Thank you very much and happy anniversary.
dan friesen
We are good at this.
jordan holmes
Okay, now, in our defense, look, you can't expect the two of us to really be on time with your anniversary wishes.
That's just not how we do things.
dan friesen
No, no.
jordan holmes
We've got an established track record of being at least a month behind on all birthdays.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's true.
Yeah.
But see, the anniversary thing is there's such a trope of people forgetting their anniversaries.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
And so I just don't want to feed into that.
These people did a good job.
jordan holmes
What's your 18th anniversary gift?
Canned goods?
dan friesen
Yeah, MREs.
jordan holmes
Your MRE anniversary.
That's your 18th.
dan friesen
So, we start off here, and I will say that Alex does jump into the main topic.
Pretty quickly.
jordan holmes
Bankruptcy.
dan friesen
Yes.
He does bring that up fairly quickly, but not before explaining that, like, we're all fucked.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
So here we are on this Monday, April 18th edition of the Alex Jones Show in the year 2022, and we see worldwide depression, we see worldwide inflation, we see planetary...
We see massive wars.
We see collapsing borders.
We see open pedophilia promotion by every major Western media outlet of any size.
It is just an unspeakable moment in human history to know that we've been turned over to evil, that we've aborted billions of babies on a planetary scale, and that God is now withdrawing his protection from us.
And evil and corruption, All right, I'm going to say something here, and I'm not going to talk about it again today, and it will be basically my statement on the subject, and I'm going to move on.
But it's just this.
I am not declaring bankruptcy, and InfoWars is not declaring bankruptcy.
It's a Chapter 11 reorganization.
dan friesen
So this is a total mess, but it's not wildly unpredictable.
The way stuff like this works is that if an entity declares bankruptcy, even a Chapter 11 reorganization style of bankruptcy, then all civil litigation that it's involved in is halted.
This is because of what a bankruptcy like this represents.
Typically, a business will enter this kind of bankruptcy if they owe money to multiple creditors, so the halting of civil litigation is generally an attempt to make sure that one debt the business has Right.
owed money.
jordan holmes
Right.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
The Chapter 11 reorganization is an attempt to create a plan to pay off all the debts while keeping the business functioning.
Typically speaking when people do this.
What?
Given the way things have gone over the last few years, it's tough for me not to read this as an attempt to postpone or entirely derail the civil cases against him and Infowars, but as it stands now, I really don't know what to expect from this.
This is a big breaking news story for our world, but honestly, I kind of look at this still as a developing story, and I don't know what's going to play out.
jordan holmes
I mean, what in his background would give you the idea that maybe this is a stalling tactic?
dan friesen
Everything.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
Any specific examples from every single thing that he's done over the past three years?
dan friesen
Everything.
Okay, everything.
jordan holmes
Every single thing.
dan friesen
But Alex has an interesting explanation for why he's doing this, which I don't think makes sense.
alex jones
It's a Chapter 11 reorganization in the federal courts.
So you can go and show them their books, they can come in and look at your books, and know that we don't have $16 million in a secret bank account, or $5 million, or $3 million.
jordan holmes
We have it in a secret, secret bank account.
alex jones
And know that what is claimed by the Texas courts that are very political, and the Connecticut court, is not correct and is not true.
And whether that's successful or not, in the long term, this will be an issue for the bankruptcy courts one way or another.
And it's just time for that to happen.
And it's time for people to be able to see that I don't have $5 million.
I don't have $3 million.
We have less than $3 million cash, and we need that money to buy a future product to be able to operate.
dan friesen
This explanation falls on deaf ears for me because, honestly, if Alex wanted to open up his books to the court to prove that stuff, he could have done that at any point.
jordan holmes
No, you only can do that when you've filed bankruptcy.
You can't just go to the courts with your books.
dan friesen
I don't think that's necessary to achieve the aims that he's describing, so I kind of feel like this explanation I just don't accept as satisfying at all.
Even if he wanted to keep it all confidential, he could have had it subject to the protective order that's in place for these cases.
So I think that that all could have been done.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
They could have...
Right.
Shown the court and the judge.
jordan holmes
What you don't know, though, is that it wasn't...
So it's a little bit like HIPAA, okay?
So until God removed his protection, he couldn't show those numbers to the court.
dan friesen
No, it's actually like HIPAA.
Alex is hungry, hungry.
And we know this because he eats lunch on air all the time.
jordan holmes
That does sound about right.
dan friesen
So, Alex has a prepared statement that's very clearly, like, his lawyer wrote this.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
But also, so he tries to read some of it.
jordan holmes
And how do we embellish this?
dan friesen
Well, he can't stick to it.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
alex jones
When you see all these headlines out there, did Alex Jones enforce bankruptcy?
The answer's no.
The bankruptcy for my affiliate companies is designed to pay all of my creditors in full.
Alex Jones, yours truly, gave up all rights to his membership interest in the debtor's bankruptcy to a trust created to hold that interest and backstop payments and claims.
Number four, I'm confident the federal system has the tools and experience to fairly deal with the resolution of these claims.
Now, here's what's important.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
alex jones
Again, the corporate media and these individuals know that we don't have all this money.
The plan is to try to get judgments that are giant and large that can't be paid.
So they can close our doors here and try to keep me from being on the air elsewhere, which they're not going to be able to do.
In fact, if anything, it makes me work harder and value the First Amendment even more.
That said, my fate is tied to your fate, and this country and this world is in a lot of trouble, and so we're all going to share this misery together, including those that are in the system and that are...
Really destroying due process and every major pillar of our Bill of Rights and Constitution.
I mean, the Eighth Amendment, in my case, is completely thrown out the window.
dan friesen
No, it hasn't.
The Eighth Amendment's about cruel and unusual punishment.
And also about, like, excessive bail or fines.
jordan holmes
Right.
I mean, I think Alex has actually violated our Eighth Amendment rights.
dan friesen
No, because it's not really a punishment.
His show is cruel and unusual.
jordan holmes
I think being around him is a punishment.
dan friesen
I think that you and I could choose to not do this at any point, and the punishment would go away.
jordan holmes
That is fair.
dan friesen
I think that's fine.
There is an excessive fine emotionally to listen to this.
jordan holmes
Yes, that is true.
dan friesen
But, yeah, I don't think that any of this applies to Alex's case, and I think, honestly, there was just that news that broke that he got...
Sanctioned like a million dollars in these cases.
And I even don't think that's excessive.
I think this is very, like, based on his behavior, I think it's probably fine.
Probably appropriate.
jordan holmes
Like, here's where I feel like human society does kind of break down in this scenario, is like, at a certain point, there can be no more benefit of the doubt given.
You know?
Like...
You've proven that if you give him the benefit of the doubt, he's going to exploit it.
So then you stop doing that.
And yet, still, with this million dollar judgment, it's like, what are you doing?
You're giving him the benefit of the doubt here!
You're only charging him this?
dan friesen
Well, I think it's probably a very high fine.
But it also seems like, eh, I would have bumped it up a little.
Because at this point, it's like, slap on the wrist, number...
50 or whatever.
jordan holmes
It really does seem like if I'm the judge here, I'm looking at old cases going through like, let's just see the top number and I'm gonna go up by at least one, you know?
dan friesen
Think about like instances of other large civil...
Litigation.
Right.
People don't act like this.
Defendants don't act like this.
jordan holmes
Unless they're Chevron.
dan friesen
Wow.
But I think they even act a little different.
jordan holmes
They act more evil.
Yeah, that's fair.
dan friesen
I have to imagine that this level of obfuscation and feet dragging and such is almost unprecedented for most courts to have ever dealt with.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
It's pretty impressive, the way Alex is setting precedents.
jordan holmes
I know!
And that's what I'm thinking, is my response to this is, Alex is doing unprecedented things, but you keep giving him very precedented sanctions and the like.
dan friesen
I wonder if that's accurate.
I think they might be quite large.
jordan holmes
I think they need to figure out my definition of unprecedented.
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
That would be interesting to figure out more about.
So Alex has some other things that you could describe as sanctions against him, and he exaggerates some of them here.
alex jones
I'm not going to get into this today in any great detail, but this is a big story.
For anybody in the country, and I've talked to a lot of lawyers, including some of the biggest names out there, and they've seen these documents, and they cannot believe these.
But the judges given in the Texas case and the Connecticut case, whatever these lawyers want, same lawyers that bankrupted Remington into serious problems.
Have filed for one of three trials they have coming up, starting next month, actually late this month, that we not be able to talk at the trial.
So I'm already found guilty.
Did juries ever think that they would go and then someone's guilty, you're told, and now you decide how guilty?
jordan holmes
Yes.
alex jones
That would be a judge, usually, a jury would decide, and the judge would have some oversight on how guilty.
And it actually says in here, cannot mention the First Amendment.
Cannot defend yourself.
It actually says it in here.
This is a big story.
dan friesen
So this isn't true.
However, there are some realities to this bad situation that Alex finds himself in and put himself in regarding the trials.
Because of the flagrant and repeated abuses of the discovery process that Alex engaged in, the court sanctioned him after they failed to produce yet another corporate representative after the Daria attempt.
So after that one, they sent another corporate representative that didn't work out.
And then they had some issues.
jordan holmes
I mean, we're at Lucy territory.
We're here in Charlie Brown territory.
You guys keep putting that football out there, and they're just never going to kick it, man.
dan friesen
This made it so Alex's side wasn't able to demand any further discovery from the plaintiffs.
If he wasn't cooperating, it wasn't fair that the other side was being held to a different standard.
I think that makes some sense.
Further and more relevantly, because they had at least four opportunities to come in and discuss these questions and failed spectacularly each time, the court ordered that if there was a factual dispute between Alex and the plaintiffs on a number of questions, the jury was instructed to view the plaintiffs'claims as established fact.
Alex was given a chance to discuss this stuff in an appropriate setting, but he was unwilling to cooperate with the process and now the chance that he has is passed.
It's not appropriate for him to, like, now I want to talk about it once we're at the trial.
jordan holmes
It is a little bit funny because it does feel like in court we could get into a scenario where Alex is like, no, that didn't happen.
And then the judge has to go like...
The jury is instructed that it did happen, and then Alex says, no, it didn't happen, and then the jury is instructed that it did happen.
dan friesen
And then if he yells enough, then yeah, he will probably be instructed not to speak.
jordan holmes
Exactly, he'll be kicked out.
dan friesen
As for his not being able to bring up the First Amendment, I'm guessing that's more of an issue of it being completely irrelevant to the case.
He's already been found guilty in a default judgment at this point, and even before that, the First Amendment defense wouldn't really apply, but particularly now.
jordan holmes
I mean, that one might as well.
I'll just be like, hey, we can't allow him to be an asshole who grandstands about the First Amendment for no reason for an hour.
dan friesen
Right, because that's inevitably what he would want to do, probably, if given half a chance.
jordan holmes
We're going to go right one step ahead of you.
dan friesen
Yep.
So I don't believe there's anything in place that says he can't talk or can't defend himself.
It's just that...
You know.
jordan holmes
Yes, there is.
The jury is required to.
dan friesen
He can defend himself on maybe some of the other questions that aren't listed in the things that the jury is instructed to not accept his protestations on.
jordan holmes
Like the spelling of his name.
dan friesen
Sure.
Yeah.
So anyway, we get to some plugging.
alex jones
The rot that is attacking us is endemic of what has happened in civilization.
And it just tears my guts up.
I can tell you this.
If we weren't so maxed out, these legal battles would be a lot easier.
And so the biggest thing you can do is spread the word about the broadcast, knowing that powerful forces are doing everything they can and breaking all the rules, trying to silence us, because they need the main voices of resistance silenced ahead of the next big lockdowns.
And the devaluation of the currency and the universal basic income and the real tyranny that is being set up and rolled out now.
And so I'm honored that these powerful forces are obsessed with taking us down and silencing us.
I mean, I expect that to happen.
It's still amazing to actually be at the center of it.
And so there's that.
Please spread the word about the broadcast and realize it's so precious and every guest we have and every topic we cover and the information we go over is something that really scares the power structure because they know it's the truth.
Also, financially support InfoWars.
dan friesen
So this is just going to be setting the tone.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's going to be a lot of this.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's annoying.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, I mean, on the one hand, I see him saying...
If we had more money, these lawsuits would be easier as a craven lie designed to get as much money as it can.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think so.
jordan holmes
Right.
And at the same time...
Is it a deeper truth about America that if he did have more money these lawsuits would be a lot easier?
dan friesen
I think that if most people had more money their lawsuits would be easier to handle.
jordan holmes
That is true.
dan friesen
For Alex, he's already got expensive lawyers that he's cycled through.
I don't believe that there's anything really about how it's gone that more money would have solved.
I think he's probably done as much as he can with money.
jordan holmes
Right.
It would require enough to, like, purchase Texas.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, I think that's probably beyond his audience's ability to donate.
jordan holmes
But if he were his own sovereign nation, I think he would be able to get out of this, yeah.
dan friesen
Sure, then he'd have sovereign immunity.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Short of that, I don't know what money would do.
jordan holmes
Okay, well...
I'll talk to him about it.
We'll see how it goes.
dan friesen
I guess he could be imagining that he could buy the judge.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, that's gotta be what he's a little bit imagining.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that your assessment that it's just a craven attempt to get more money is probably accurate because he's already thrown quite a bit.
Quite a bit at the wall.
So look.
If you want the show to continue, that's on you.
jordan holmes
You're going to need to give them money.
alex jones
I mean, I would tell you right now, ladies and gentlemen, that if you want us to be able to stay on air and be able to move forward in the future, I need you now to not wait and to go to InfowarStore.com, especially those of you that have never bought a book, never bought a film, never bought a t-shirt, never got a supplement, never got an air filtration, water filtration, shortwave radio, thousands of great items, books, you name it, at InfowarStore.com.
Get your living defense.
Get your knockout.
It's back in stock.
Body's Ultimate Turmeric Formula, Lung Cleanse.
They're all there at InfoWarsStore.com.
And it's just that simple.
There's also a button up on the top of the shopping cart that says Support, and it says Become a Sponsor.
And you just click there, and you can give a monthly donation or just give a one-time donation.
And then we actually get 95% of that money instead of just, you know, 30% or 40%, 50% with the sale of the product.
This is do or die time.
If you want to keep us on air through these attacks of the system and the system pulling out all the stops to try to silence us, then this is the time.
They are trying to silence you.
They are trying to take down the leading voice of resistance.
So I simply need you.
You go to InfowarStore.com.
dan friesen
So, I hear that list of products, and I'm like, I thought there was a supply chain breakdown.
Like, you couldn't get these supplements.
It seems like it is stuff in stock that you presumably shouldn't, based on things I've heard.
jordan holmes
It does seem like that, and I do appreciate the idea of somebody listening who's like, you know what?
I've been dragging my feet on those water filters for a long time.
dan friesen
It's true.
jordan holmes
But now that I know Alex has declared bankruptcy, that's when I need to put my money into that fire.
dan friesen
Now I need to buy a school bus-sized water filter.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
unidentified
This is the time.
dan friesen
I don't know who possibly exists in the audience.
Who's been listening to him scream bloody murder and the sky is falling multiple times over even just the past six months.
jordan holmes
I mean, the past few days.
dan friesen
And has been like, alright, finally I'll buy a product.
jordan holmes
Today's the day.
Yeah.
What call to action is like...
If you haven't once thought about buying this weird, upside-down golden horse that I sell, now is obviously the time.
dan friesen
He said they were going off the air in six months, like a year and a half ago.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
He's sold these silver coins as, like, war bonds that didn't work out.
He's tried to get everyone to buy Reset Wars by saying it's the most important work he's ever done.
jordan holmes
He's a hawked...
Pillows with the asshole!
dan friesen
They're great pillows.
jordan holmes
They are great pillows.
dan friesen
I feel like he's done about everything he can in terms of really extreme calls to action, like hitting a panic button, and I don't know who's left to freak out.
jordan holmes
I mean, we're borderline on hostage situation necessary to elevate.
He's gotta be like, hey, guess what?
This is your grandma.
I've got her by the throat.
If you don't buy a water filter, grandma's dead.
dan friesen
Oh, isn't that what he's doing with his show?
jordan holmes
It does seem a little bit like that.
dan friesen
This show?
You like this show?
jordan holmes
Listen, if you like living, you need this show to continue existing.
dan friesen
Right, and so you need to pay up.
So grandma's in the world.
jordan holmes
Grandma is in the world.
The world's gonna end.
dan friesen
So there's some content, I guess.
unidentified
Maybe.
alex jones
But this is just emblematic of the rotting establishment that we have that's in control.
But look at some of these headlines.
The Washington Post, with the sub-headline, Democracy Dies in Darkness, says it's time to give the elites a bigger say in choosing the president.
The elites.
But then when Elon Musk wants to buy Twitter for free speech, he's a danger to the world.
Here's another one.
Real clear.
Policy.
Time to give elites a bigger say in choosing the president.
Washington Post.
dan friesen
Same article.
You're reading the headline twice from the same.
It's like a reposting of the same article.
So this is a two-year-old op-ed in the Washington Post that was roundly mocked and criticized.
So they changed the headline to, it's time to switch to preference primaries, which better expresses the point of the headline in the article.
So yeah, Alex is mad about it.
He's pretending that's like a current...
It's just annoying.
And Elon Musk wasn't trying to buy Twitter for free speech.
And even if he was, it has nothing to do with a two-year-old op-ed that no one liked.
This is such a trivial waste of time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I remember that headline.
And I was like, that was from a while back.
That you told me it was two years back makes me really concerned for how well I can remember the past two years.
dan friesen
Well, maybe it's less than that, but it was in 2020.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So it could have been like mid-2020.
jordan holmes
Something like that.
Okay.
dan friesen
Within a few months.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
Yep.
alex jones
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So anyway, here's some rambling for you.
alex jones
And I am just here fighting as hard as I can with everything I've got.
Try to stay on air as long as possible until humanity finds its soul again and stands up peacefully and says no.
And that's starting to happen.
So they had two years of police stay.
They backed off a little because all the prominent people were waking up and speaking out.
And the attempts to silence people weren't working.
They backed off some, but now they're setting up and preparing the next wave of fear, the next wave of control, the next group of lockdowns, the next group of censoring and systems to silence their opposition.
You can't avoid this corruption and just hide under a rock and hope it goes away.
It's not going to go away.
And I am very honored and blessed that we've been on the air 28 years and have learned a lot together.
And have made mistakes, but overall have changed the world for the better and have really gotten more accurate and more truthful and more insightful as time goes on.
jordan holmes
Really?
alex jones
It's all the good brain and soul God gave me and the great brain and soul God gave you and all the listeners and all the guests and this family that is Infowars.
But I got to tell you, folks, you're the only thing in our corner.
And I'm in your corner.
It's not the courts.
It's not the corrupt bureaucracies.
It's not the systems.
And it's three things that override the enemy.
And you know what they are?
It's prayer.
jordan holmes
Nope.
alex jones
It's word of mouth to make sure this broadcast gets through the censors, it's the right people, and it's money.
And I'm firing the bat signal here.
You know, we've been firing it for a while, but now I'm like, folks at the Alamo, send that letter out.
I'm not going to give up.
I'm not going to back down.
I'm sending the letter out saying, please send reinforcements, but we're going to stay here.
dan friesen
The Alamo didn't work out well.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and like the Alamo, he's somewhere where nobody wants him to be, and he's really being a dick about it.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's very similar to Colonel Travis, but again, we've talked about this a long time ago.
He seems to just be dead set on kind of trying to live out that archetype.
Oh, yeah.
But the firing of the Bat-Signal, it's like, this doesn't seem to be working.
Batman's not coming.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Why don't you call the Joker?
jordan holmes
I mean, because he is the Joker.
dan friesen
Oh, that's right.
jordan holmes
Doctor, I'm so depressed lately.
Do you know who's in town?
dan friesen
Who's that?
jordan holmes
The Joker.
dan friesen
Doctor.
jordan holmes
I am the Joker.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think, I feel like this metaphor is dumb.
jordan holmes
Yeah, pretty dumb.
dan friesen
Because if you call the bat signal, he's not going to bring you money first.
Second, if you're doing the same thing, You're not going to necessarily get a better action or response out of this.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
You know what raising the bat signal does.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Maybe gives you a little bit of increased cash flow.
jordan holmes
Maybe.
Maybe.
dan friesen
But it's got to be diminishing returns, too, to a certain extent.
Like, you're just squeezing the same people.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, like we said, there's no reason that a new call to action would draw in a new...
dan friesen
It would just scare the people who are already inclined to buy, most likely.
It seems that way to me.
I don't obviously know how his internal stuff works.
I don't know if this does actually bring in new customers.
jordan holmes
Any parasite eventually drains its host fucking dry, I guess.
dan friesen
Well, from the callers that you hear, they're like, yeah, I've bought your products, and I bought some more because of that.
It seems like it's just...
The people who are already in the revenue stream may be being like, well, I'll get some more toothpaste.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I was going to wait until a couple of weeks to buy more toothpaste, but now I've got four tubes.
dan friesen
Better buy all of it, though, because Alex can't get shit anymore, probably.
alex jones
I want to be strong, and I want to continue to persevere.
And the biggest way you can do that right now is by going to Infowarsstore.com and getting things you already need.
I mean, look.
I shouldn't even be selling all this stuff on sale because here's the predicament we're in.
I'm spending almost all the money that comes in on infrastructure and the crew and legal and bandwidth and all of it.
And then we have to buy product going forward and prices have gone up and supply chains have broken down.
Instead of six weeks, it's 25, 30 weeks for a product.
And we've got that money where now people used to let you do it for no money down and pay when it was ready.
Or half the money down.
And then pay when you got the rest.
We don't get that with anybody anymore.
And so, I'm sitting here looking at the product we've got, the books, the films, the t-shirts, everything we've got in stock, and thinking, I can run off this stock for six, seven months, no problem.
But then I'll have to basically implode and let go of most of the crew.
And do the show on a shoestring.
You'll still be everywhere.
You'll still be available.
It'll still be huge, but not as effective.
jordan holmes
Should you be telling us this?
alex jones
I don't want that to happen.
So it's really simple.
All of you that have been on the fence, all of you that have listened to the show over the years and never gone to Infowarsstore.com.
Folks that have been doing that are the reason the broadcast is still here and we've influenced so many powerful people and so many important people and so many influential people and so many great common people.
It's just immeasurable what this family of InfoWars has done.
And so we've already had a mighty effect.
That's why they hate us so much.
But I believe our most important work is still to come.
But I can't win this fight without your commission.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's excessive.
I think he's describing a bad business model, as always.
What I hear is people won't give me stuff on credit anymore.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Probably because I'm being sued into bankruptcy.
dan friesen
That has to be an element of it.
jordan holmes
I wouldn't give him credit.
It's very unlikely I'll get that money back.
dan friesen
Right, right.
I remember when I worked in accounts receivable at a company, you know, there would be...
Absolutely.
If someone's going to be on a net 30 schedule for paying for stuff or if you need a payment on delivery.
Absolutely.
unidentified
It's a...
dan friesen
It's something that happens with all companies.
jordan holmes
You earn credit.
You don't, yeah.
dan friesen
Well, a lot of times you're probably offered some automatically, generally.
jordan holmes
Sure, an initial credit.
dan friesen
And if things change, then maybe the circumstances change.
unidentified
That's how it goes.
dan friesen
I think Alex is probably a little frustrated by that.
But also, I hear this, like, I have enough to go for six more months.
Pretty consistently whenever he's at desperate times.
It seems like that's just kind of a line that he has.
unidentified
It does feel like that.
dan friesen
He throws it out like, eh, it's gonna be six months.
That's what I can do.
I don't know how much that reflects any kind of reality, so I don't trust that.
jordan holmes
Maybe he's got one of those calendars where it's like, it's been 180 days since I've said we have six months until we live, and then he pulls it down, and he's like, alright, zero days.
dan friesen
I don't know.
It just seems like it's his...
It's just a cliche that he has.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Trope.
unidentified
Yep.
But...
dan friesen
I mean, it doesn't sound good.
jordan holmes
No.
No, no, no.
No, he uses six months the way comics use the other day.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
You know, it's like, oh, the other day this happened.
What, two years ago?
Six months ago?
Yesterday?
What's the other day?
Really?
Like, get down to it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't necessarily believe any of this depicts his real situation.
jordan holmes
I mean, it would be kind of silly to...
Completely tell everybody your business model, right?
dan friesen
He does that a bunch, which makes you wonder if it is actually his business model.
jordan holmes
It's gotta be not.
dan friesen
But it's such a bad business model.
jordan holmes
It's so bad!
dan friesen
Yeah.
Definitely not what you'd want to invest in.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
So, here's where Alex gets a little bit threatening with the audience about whether or not they should give him money.
alex jones
I need to see.
I'm making some decisions right now.
I need to see from you a sign that you want to support.
I need to see that you really want me to take it to the next level.
Or, if you're not in the fight, and you don't think it's important to keep us on air, I totally understand.
It's a free will universe, and I'm not even mad at you, and that's God's will.
Because I'm pretty tired.
But I'm not going to give up.
I can just give out, as they say.
So, go to Infowarsstore.com right now.
Don't wait.
And get the new Alex Jones was right shirt.
It's a fundraiser shirt.
dan friesen
That's like a more immature version of Jim Baker.
You know, like, Jim Baker will be like, we need a sign that you want us to expand this ministry and build another shack out back to do something and hold our potatoes in or whatever.
But the adding of the, or maybe I should quit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That aspect of it is so childish.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
It's a threat.
I'm writing a sequel to Field of Dreams called Field of Bullshit, and it's just an angry man hearing a voice in the sky go, build a fucking studio!
dan friesen
If you tear it down, they'll go away.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds about right.
dan friesen
If you tear it down, then you can go away.
jordan holmes
If you tear it down, I'll leave you alone.
dan friesen
Right.
So Alex seems to think that his lawsuits are about something entirely different than they are.
alex jones
They still write articles every day saying, I'm evil and none of us exist.
And look, if you say it, we're going to sue you and rig the courts and destroy you and silence you.
jordan holmes
Weird thing to write an article about.
alex jones
So that when people see world government being announced, and oh, it's going to be post-human, and oh, we're going to take over your body, people go, well, I better not criticize it.
I mean, I'll end up like Alex Jones.
Hell, you'll end up like people starving to death all over the world.
dan friesen
No one's suing him for those things.
jordan holmes
No, people are suing him because...
I wound up starving to death all over the world.
dan friesen
But no one's suing him for talking about a New World Order or a One World Government.
jordan holmes
No, it seems like if he continued talking about just a New World Order or a One World Government, we wouldn't be in this scenario at all.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He would be fine.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it seems like he's...
dan friesen
Even if he just talked about Hillary being a demon forever.
jordan holmes
The whole day, every day, nobody would be...
dan friesen
Lying about Soros.
jordan holmes
No problem.
dan friesen
Totally fine, legally.
jordan holmes
Where was the problem?
Denying the...
dan friesen
Defamation, intentional infliction of emotional distress, and also misidentifying Marcel Fontaine.
Yeah, a lot of these things.
These things are specific actions that are taken that have consequences and are actionable in a civil court.
Not talking about the New World fucking order.
jordan holmes
Let me just try this real quick, Dan.
Future?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Government?
Transhuman.
unidentified
Whoa.
jordan holmes
Got any questions?
dan friesen
I have a lawsuit.
You've been served.
jordan holmes
Damn it!
Alex is right.
Not much I can do there.
dan friesen
I didn't even mean to do that.
jordan holmes
I didn't even know that you had to do it, and neither did you, and there we are.
dan friesen
It was just like something came over me.
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Almost like a demon possessed me.
jordan holmes
It's a globalist demon possessed you.
Yeah, that makes sense.
dan friesen
So look, Alex doesn't want to talk about himself, he says.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And then he proceeds to talk about himself for a really long time.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
alex jones
So I'm going to give the number out, and I'm going to take your calls today on the war.
On the new COVID lockdowns, they're definitely trying to bring back on what's happening in the economy, how you're dealing with inflation.
I really don't want to sit here and, you know, bore you with poor Alex Jones, what's happening to me.
But, I mean, I can tell you, folks, I've gone out and talked to separate third-party big famous law firms, and they don't believe the rulings and the things being done in Connecticut and Texas.
The proposal for the trial coming up in a week and a half, two weeks, jury selections next week in Texas, for one of three lawsuits they've got against me here, the first Sandy Hook one, says we are not allowed to raise the First Amendment or any defenses or talk, basically.
The jury's told I'm guilty, we can't respond, and then they sit there and tell him he's got $200 million.
And he made all his money off Sandy Hook.
I've been in the depositions.
Four of them.
By the way, this week, they wanted me for another deposition.
And so I said, okay.
So they had a third-party group that wanted to depose me, who's a party because of insurance companies and GCN and things.
So it's the Connecticut anti-gun Blumenthal lawyers, Blumenthal's son, basically.
I mean, it's in there.
They run it.
And I come in in the morning at 9 a.m. for the deposition, and then one of the other lawyers says, oh, I had something come up, and they're like, oh, fine, we'll just reschedule in two weeks.
But I try to reschedule when I had vertigo.
Dr. Marble thought it might be a heart problem when it got checked out.
It was an infection.
I go, hey, let me just reschedule next week.
Oh, my God, we'll arrest you!
You owe us all this money!
25,000 first day, 50,000 the next day, 100,000 the next day, up to one point whatever million.
I'm just like, they treat me like I'm Daddy Warbucks.
Like I'm Howard Hughes.
They treat me like I just bathe in gold like Scrooge McDuck.
They treat me like I'm Lex Luthor and a child molester mixed together.
And it's all just completely insane.
And that's the model for everybody else.
dan friesen
Shocked that you don't want to talk about yourself.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean...
dan friesen
It's excessive.
jordan holmes
That's weird.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It very much feels sincere that he doesn't want to talk about this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I can tell.
Based on what he said, it makes him feel deeply uncomfortable to kind of, like, get into this.
Frankly, his lawyers have given him the advice that he probably shouldn't be.
dan friesen
Well, they prepared a statement that he didn't read.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
But a little bit of.
jordan holmes
They made a whole thing for him.
Yeah, yeah.
And it's clear that he just doesn't want to talk about himself.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that's admirable.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Also, you know who Alex treats like Lex Luthor and pedophiles put together?
jordan holmes
Literally anybody he disagrees with?
dan friesen
You bet.
Particularly members of the LGBTQ community.
jordan holmes
You got it.
dan friesen
So I don't care too much about his feelings about how he's being treated.
jordan holmes
Oh, I'm so sorry.
dan friesen
Also, by the way, Daddy Warbucks and Scrooge McDuck and what was the third?
Howard Hughes.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Real relatable references.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Real modern.
jordan holmes
Well, you know, it's a lot like, uh, uh, wow.
Yeah.
I mean, the spruce goose was how many years ago?
dan friesen
It was like...
jordan holmes
60?
dan friesen
No, it was like two years ago, a couple months.
unidentified
Yeah, that's right.
dan friesen
One way or the other.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're right.
You're right, you're right.
Now I remember it.
Washington Post.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex thinks that, uh, the people suing him have ulterior motives.
alex jones
And it's scary to see it happening.
And to watch it going on.
So I'm trying to just get into federal court, probably won't even be able to, just to swear under federal court and they'll send a trustee to look at everything and know we're not lying about not having...
Because, I mean, again, they have HBO, they have Netflix, all of them coming to try to film this trial next week.
The judge is combing her hair and primping.
They admit it's all about media and all about being famous and all about making money off me while claiming I made money off them, which isn't even true.
And then you know I'm going to get subpoenaed in order to sit there like a monkey, but then I'm not allowed to talk?
I've got a whole list of things that I can't talk about.
The First Amendment, or how I didn't damage these people, or any of this stuff.
I mean, you read this, it's like a Monty Python joke.
It makes the trial and idiocracy look fair.
dan friesen
The trial's going to be the dead bird sketch.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
This bird is no more!
dan friesen
Still not talking about himself, though.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Hate's talking about himself.
Hate's talking about himself.
dan friesen
Yeah.
His big complaint is that the judge is combing her hair.
jordan holmes
I mean, she's primping for the media.
And all I did was obfuscate, probably in a criminally fraudulent manner, for multiple years.
dan friesen
I don't understand why you wouldn't think that this would be something that media would be interested in.
Wow.
jordan holmes
I mean, he's a media company.
dan friesen
Big one.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And a big asshole.
jordan holmes
With a very public asshole behavior tied together with the most asshole asshole president there's ever been.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think it's newsworthy, my man.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You gotta understand that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex has done some ads this episode.
Quite a bit.
I've not included all of them, but trust me, there's a lot.
It's repetitive.
But then he really swings for the fences.
alex jones
Coming up in the next segment, I have some really good news I'm going to be getting to as well on the DeSantis front and a lot more, but let me go ahead and just do this now.
I'm going to tape this live on air so we have a four-minute ad that we can run during all the shows.
jordan holmes
A four-minute ad.
alex jones
That'll be able to operate in the future.
dan friesen
On his own show, he just records a four-minute ad to play on other people's shows.
jordan holmes
That is absurd!
That is absurd!
There's only one show that does this!
unidentified
That's not a thing that happens on any other show!
jordan holmes
There's no show!
At no point in time on The Simpsons is Bart just stop and he's like, I'm going to record a Butterfinger ad real quick to the camera.
dan friesen
That's not how it works!
Or Wolf Blitzer being like, look, we got some good news coming up next segment.
jordan holmes
The real good news is that you got low prices at Target, baby.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Even Stelter wouldn't do this.
So here's some of that good news.
It's about old Ronnie DeSantis.
jordan holmes
Okay, great.
alex jones
I got some positive news I want to hit right now.
DeSantis blast pro-infanticide late-term abortions, and Florida and other states are now passing laws or have passed laws.
now more than 10 states banning third trimester abortions.
That is a very, very good start.
dan friesen
So DeSantis didn't ban late-term abortions.
He banned abortions after 15 weeks, which is right around the cusp of the first and second trimesters.
Alex is presenting this as DeSantis banning late-term, third-trimester abortions because he wants the audience to see this extreme action as just a minor good first step.
That way they can still feel like there's so much they need to fight for, and the audience can contextualize any opposition to DeSantis' action as people overreacting.
And it's a cheap trick.
And it sucks.
Fuck all this.
jordan holmes
Hey, you know you're good.
You know you're on the right path.
Whenever you and your buddies have to constantly lie to the people who support you in order to get your evil bullshit passed.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's how good you are.
dan friesen
It's, um...
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
It's how Captain America would do it.
Actually, maybe.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So, many years ago, Jordan, let me tell you a tale.
jordan holmes
Deer Slicer.
dan friesen
For a score...
jordan holmes
R.I.P.
Geraldo.
dan friesen
We had a situation at...
I don't remember where it was.
CPAC, maybe?
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
No, that doesn't seem right.
I don't know.
Anyway, this was a time when Alex and Roger Stone decided to go crash.
A recording of The Young Turks.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Where Cenk was talking to Jimmy Dore, and Jimmy Dore spit on Alex.
And it was a big to-do, and Alex felt assaulted.
jordan holmes
He was so sad.
dan friesen
Or maybe he spit on Roger Stone, I can't remember.
Either way, Jimmy Dore sped on somebody.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Well, things have changed since then.
jordan holmes
Yeah, isn't it ironic how far we've come?
dan friesen
Now Alex is playing a Jimmy Dore clip on his show.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
alex jones
But I wanted to go to a quick Jimmy Dore piece.
Where he's playing a clip from a MSNBC advisor and expert panelist explaining what's really going on in Ukraine.
And boy, they almost have a heart attack.
They turn as wide as a sheet when this guest is on The Morning Joe, Psycho Joe, and Zbigniew Brzezinski, the war criminal's daughter, when the truth is laid out.
unidentified
Jeffrey Sachs, chime in.
This is very different.
jordan holmes
First of all, I'm like, who's Jeffrey Sachs?
unidentified
I watch MSNBC all the time.
jimmy dore
I almost never, I don't ever remember seeing this guy.
unidentified
Why?
jordan holmes
And I'm like, oh, so there's a new guy.
jimmy dore
I'm like, I'm thinking, did the CIA just pull a new guy out to push the war?
jordan holmes
Who is this guy?
unidentified
And listen to what he says.
jordan holmes
And now you know why you're never going to see him on MSNBC.
dan friesen
Here it comes.
Congratulations are due to Jimmy Dore for getting the Alex Jones nod of approval.
He's clearly doing some really solid work and should be super proud of the people who want to associate with him.
A few points here, though.
The first is that this clip is not a morning Joe clip talking about the war in Ukraine.
It's actually a clip from April 2018 talking about Syria.
But it's also a 2018 clip from Jimmy Dore.
Jimmy doesn't think it's talking about Ukraine.
Alex is making that up about this.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
The panelist in question, Jeffrey Sachs, is not a newcomer to MSNBC or even to Morning Joe, as Jimmy's trying to imply, and he didn't just disappear.
He's been on the show since this clip, and all that nonsense is just Jimmy trying to create the perception that opposing opinions aren't allowed on media platforms that he doesn't like.
In reality, the clip Jimmy is playing, along with Sax's other appearances, which Jimmy is pretending don't exist, are a strong counterpoint to the entire premise that dissenting opinions aren't allowed in the mainstream media.
Sachs disagrees with the idea of insisting on Assad's removal from power, while the prevailing opinion on the panel is that Assad should be removed, and he's free to speak his position, and he wasn't blacklisted afterwards.
Anyway, Jimmy and Alex both suck, and if Alex took even one second to look into Jeffrey Sachs' resume, he'd find that he's involved with a bunch of organizations that Alex believes are the New World Order, like the UN and the World Health Organization and the World Bank and the OECD.
I don't know.
Seeing that this isn't a unipolar group where everybody has exactly the same ideas and works like automatons to achieve the goals of the devil.
jordan holmes
No, because then whenever you murdered them, you'd be like, uh-oh, these are people.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex has another gotcha moment about Joe Biden.
You know, our last one was pretty strong.
jordan holmes
It was powerful.
dan friesen
The prosecution misspeaking.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, he screwed that one up.
dan friesen
Man, Biden lost a lot of support over that one.
unidentified
I don't think he's okay.
jordan holmes
I don't think he's okay.
dan friesen
Here's another big one.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Here's a clip indicative of what we face.
It's on Infowars.com.
Jill Biden instructs confused Joe to wave to a crowd after delivering remarks.
See Joe Biden's new handlers, Jill Biden and the Easter Bunny.
And you can laugh at this, but this was done so that when they sell the country out and implode the currency, the elites don't get the blame, their puppet does.
Here's the video.
unidentified
Welcome to the South Lawn.
Thank you and happy, happy Easter.
All right.
Please.
Please.
dan friesen
You can hear her say, wave.
Who cares?
jordan holmes
You got him.
dan friesen
I don't think this is a big deal at all.
jordan holmes
No, they got him.
dan friesen
Also, does Alex not remember Trump looking directly at a solar eclipse during his Easter festivities?
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
No, there's nothing weird about that.
dan friesen
He just looked at the sun.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
He looked directly at it.
Do you know why?
Because he was so great, not even the sun can hurt his eyes.
dan friesen
I would say in terms of a gaffe, Trump might be ahead.
unidentified
Yeah, might be ahead on that one.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Who cares?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex has some more threats about money issues.
alex jones
So this doesn't affect me.
It's affecting you that the courts have become this out of control and are able to do stuff like this.
So that's where we are.
And we need your support now more than ever because money is the big thing that can fix this and stand up to this and ensure other things are able to be done in the future no matter what.
But maxed out like I am?
I'm kind of like, God, are you going to take me out of the game?
Is that what you want?
I've been in this 28 years, because if that's your will, if the listeners don't support me, then that's what God wants.
And then that's because God's always provided.
And so, if I'm so cursed in these courts, and I'm so cursed with the lawyers, and I'm so, you know, just absolutely meant, then that is God's plan.
Or, I'm supposed to stay on air, but I need a lot of money.
dan friesen
I need a lot of money.
Yeah, so this is an interesting way to contextualize it, because then it's like, if you don't give me money, that's proof that God doesn't want me to be on air.
Your actions can determine God's will.
jordan holmes
I mean, what else can I say but Joel Osteen, come on down, buddy.
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think it's a little clunkier.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, that's to go without saying.
dan friesen
I think Joel Osteen does a lot of this with a little bit more aplomb.
jordan holmes
And panache.
dan friesen
Yeah, excitement.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Showmanship.
jordan holmes
He's better at it.
That's why he gets a private jet to fly around in.
dan friesen
Alex may have a helicopter he has access to.
He certainly took that down to see Steven Crowder when...
You know, last year when Texas had ice all over the place.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
And Osteen doesn't have a tank, so...
dan friesen
That's true.
Well, neither does Alex anymore.
jordan holmes
Well, that's also true.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, just more, I need money shit.
alex jones
You know, Chad, I don't...
I'm reaching the point already with the accounting where I'm not going to be able to buy the DNA Force Plus and the Body's Ultimate Turmeric Formula and the X2 and the X3 and the coffee and all of it because I'll have to have that money to run.
And I can make that decision and stay on air six, eight months and then implode.
But I can't have it both ways where there's even, you know, okay, put the money out, but there's not enough and there's not enough to operate now.
I am in between a rock and a hard place.
I need money right now.
So it's simple.
InfoWars is treading water in frozen ocean.
We're going to sink and it's going to go down or you're going to throw a lifeline in.
And the majority of the listeners...
We know less than 1% of people ever buy products at Infowarsstore.com.
Gosh, if it's just 3% of people listening right now, we'll just go to Infowarsstore.com, secure, high-tech, beautiful site, and buy some Rainforest Ultra.
Get a t-shirt, get a book, get a film.
Donate today, right there, support free speech.
$5, $100, whatever.
We can absolutely win and dominate.
But I'm not Trump who had $20 billion when he ran, and now he's got like $3 billion.
They almost destroyed him.
Yeah, he lost almost everything.
Good for Trump, you know, fighting hard.
I'm ten times more hardcore.
I don't have millions, much less billions of dollars.
I have you.
That's it.
dan friesen
I thought this narrative with Trump is all over the place.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I guess we're not totally against him because he hasn't gone bad.
I guess also Alex saying that he's not worth anything back in 2015 has been, of course, sort of, we've recast that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So yeah, $20 billion apparently, and now $17 billion.
jordan holmes
It's been a rough go for him.
dan friesen
$3 billion is still a shitload of money.
jordan holmes
That's practically nothing.
dan friesen
Wow.
Compared to $20 billion, maybe.
jordan holmes
That's practically nothing.
Ah, man.
I'm surprised we don't have literal phone banks.
Like, I'm surprised he doesn't turn around and you see four D-list conservative celebrities manning old-timey rotary phones just like, we're ready to take your call!
You know, like, it's that bad.
dan friesen
Yeah, and he's throwing it to, like, a choir of InfoWars employees' children.
jordan holmes
100% that kind of thing.
Yeah, we are there.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Rob Dude doing, like, the talent show.
You know, that'd be great.
jordan holmes
Yes, absolutely.
dan friesen
Yeah, everyone at Influence probably has something.
Maybe someone could do close-up magic.
jordan holmes
We're gonna do one last talent show to save the rec center from the evil billionaire trying to shut it down.
dan friesen
Have the goddamn dignity to do something like that.
That's what Alex needs to do.
unidentified
Car wash.
jordan holmes
Car wash.
dan friesen
No, no, because it needs to be a show.
It needs to be a show.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
You could maybe do a car wash also, but you need to do the, like, because when Alex has done the, like, Save Info Wars marathons or whatever, it's just the dumb shows, but longer.
jordan holmes
Over and over.
dan friesen
You need to do something that is a spectacle.
You need Alex to, like, try and jump a car over Snake River Canyon.
jordan holmes
100%.
Yes.
dan friesen
You need something.
jordan holmes
Yes.
unidentified
Alex doing some, like, David Blaine type stuff.
jordan holmes
If we don't get this money, I will know God has abandoned me because I will be dunked into this tank and I will have to try and untie myself from these cuffs.
dan friesen
I will be raising money by living in a see-through cube for a week.
jordan holmes
But people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones and now we're going to prove it.
dan friesen
I just think something like that would be fun.
jordan holmes
It'd be fantastic.
dan friesen
It'd be better than this because this is excessive and annoying.
jordan holmes
It's sad.
dan friesen
Sad's a relative term.
Fair point.
So Alex does take some calls.
And, man, this first caller has an idea to save InfoWars.
Let's hear it.
Boy, Alex even isn't into it.
He seems very annoyed.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
But also, he starts with Save InfoWars, Save the World, which is a reference to heroes.
Save the cheerleader, save the world.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Which was what Hiro Nakamura thought about Claire Bennett.
He had to go save her from Siler in order to...
Anyway.
jordan holmes
The amount you have told me about Hiro's over the years is astonishing.
dan friesen
Oh, also I forgot about another character who was called the Haitian.
He could negate people's powers when he was around them.
jordan holmes
Love you, buddy.
dan friesen
Let's see if I can come up with any...
jordan holmes
No, please don't.
dan friesen
So anyway, this caller is a bad idea for Alex.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Let's talk to Bob in Ohio.
Bob, welcome.
jordan holmes
Hi.
alex jones
Welcome.
unidentified
Save InfoWars, save the world.
Alex, I ran a TV station, an NBC affiliate, for the better part of a decade.
Not recently, but I know exactly what you're doing wrong, and I know exactly how to save InfoWars.
Listening?
alex jones
I'm listening.
jordan holmes
Oh, I'm listening.
unidentified
Okay.
I believe what we need is resellers.
You were once a great tree of liberty.
You were a red one of liberty.
But when they pulled your advertisers...
They effectively cut off all your branches.
Now, when they pulled your branches, they effectively cut you down from a tree of liberty down to a bush.
You are a shrubbery of liberty.
That's got to be very insulting.
Now, what we need to do to save InfoWars is we need to regrow your branches.
And the way we do that is what I believe is resellers.
We need thousands of businesses to resell InfoWarnStore.com products in their local business.
I had a dream that I could go down to a local 711 and do TurboCore.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Well, of course it would.
alex jones
I mean, so you think 7-Eleven's gonna carry our stuff?
dan friesen
Fundamental problem with this idea.
jordan holmes
Sir, do you not realize that they already do?
And it's a lot cheaper than the shit that I sell.
I put a different name on it.
dan friesen
Right.
Alex is like, his response to this obviously is very appropriate because this is a stupid idea.
jordan holmes
Yeah, 100%.
dan friesen
Does this caller think that Alex wouldn't be doing that already if anyone had interest in selling his products?
jordan holmes
Come on.
God, I...
dan friesen
Give it half a chance.
Alex would already be in every store.
jordan holmes
I could not love his fucking madman-ass prepared pitch.
He's got the, like, you used to be a tree, sir, but now you are a bush.
How do we get back to the tree of liberty?
dan friesen
Also, I do love, if anybody's keeping a list, the shrubbery of truth is up there with the piranha of news.
The Piranha of Liberty?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Whatever the...
Oh, boy.
So, yeah, this caller was disappointing.
jordan holmes
I love that.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, another caller says that Alex should get more sales.
jordan holmes
I agree.
dan friesen
Alex does not take this well.
unidentified
Oh.
Alex, great to see you're still hanging in there after all the crap that's going on right now.
jordan holmes
Crap.
alex jones
Well, thank you, brother.
We're all in this together.
unidentified
I know.
So I just want to say that I just ordered some stuff from the store, and I was looking back at my history.
And I made an order.
There was another one around about a year ago.
And there's been 600,000 orders that the whole entire website has done in about a year.
How does he know that?
There is so many people watching this stuff.
And for 600,000 orders to only come out of your guys'store within a year for how many people are watching this and stuff is absurd.
alex jones
I don't even know we got that many orders.
I don't know where to get that number, but...
Look, it's fine.
Listen, I've run my course, and nobody takes this stuff serious, so we'll just go off the air.
I mean, if people don't want to support us, don't want to buy the products, don't want to keep us on there, that's fine.
You're going to lose everything anyways.
unidentified
Jesus.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God!
dan friesen
That call started so friendly.
jordan holmes
There was so much nice about it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Hey, brother, we're in this together.
jordan holmes
Hey, buddy.
It's you and me against the world.
dan friesen
And then, fuck it.
jordan holmes
No one takes this seriously.
I don't even care.
I'm going to die alone.
I don't even give a shit.
I don't even give a shit.
If you don't care, I don't care.
dan friesen
To answer your question, clearly from the way that guy was talking, it was order numbers.
You just guessed based on order numbers.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
dan friesen
600,000 had passed.
Yeah.
But yeah, man, that's not a good headspace.
alex jones
No.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I expect better from the shrub of truth.
jordan holmes
I mean, I hope one day it gets the water of responsibility, and then it is uprooted by the construction company of consequences.
dan friesen
That seems like a perfect metaphor.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Alex gets here to a point where he's like, I don't want to take any more calls about me.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Stop it.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
A lot of people think they're going through some metamorphosis of corruption and, oh, this great, wonderful thing's going to come out on the other side.
That's what the left thinks.
No, what's going to come out on the other side is mass death and nuclear war.
Okay?
So I've already made friends with this.
I'm already way past it.
And I don't want to take calls.
In fact, I don't want to take calls about InfoWars anymore.
I want to talk about Russia.
I want to talk about China, the borders, the New World Order, any subject but us.
Because it's whining.
It's whining.
If America doesn't believe in free speech, and America believes in killing babies, and America believes in drag queen story time, and America believes in open borders and tuberculosis and bioweapons being released and forced inoculations, then America's done.
And my job was to be here, to expose what was happening, and to try to get people to make a mental, psychic, spiritual choice, and I've done that.
jordan holmes
That is whining.
alex jones
But I sure as hell am not going to bitch.
I'm just saying.
You want to hate us in the fight against the New World Order, we need your support.
But I don't want to turn it into bitching at people, or turn it into complaining, okay?
Because it's just, people are going to do what they're going to do.
dan friesen
Oh my god.
There's such a stupid outburst.
Like, what kind of calls did Alex expect to get when he spent the first hour and a half of this show basically just ranting about doom and how the world was against him?
Whether intentionally or not, that's the theme of the show, and that's just Alex getting mad at himself for not being able to do any other show than that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's, like, what do you expect?
This is what you do.
You complain all the time.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
And so callers calling in with, like, want to talk about this situation you're complaining about.
jordan holmes
Right.
Right, right, right.
You didn't...
dan friesen
No shit.
jordan holmes
You didn't spend the last half hour talking about Ukraine, and then when you went to calls, everybody was talking about you.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You spent the last half hour talking about you, and then you were like, I'm gonna go to calls.
What do you think people are gonna call in about?
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's a call-in show.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's the topic.
jordan holmes
That's what you're talking about.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Why would somebody call in and be like, hey, I know you got bankruptcy or whatever, but I have a raccoon that's loose in my town, and I think that the mayor is secretly working for that raccoon.
What do we do?
alex jones
Well, look.
dan friesen
That raccoon sounds like a problem, but not as big as the problems I have.
jordan holmes
So see, now we're in trouble again!
dan friesen
Yeah, you just weave that.
Whatever call you get, you just turn it into how, you know, the raccoon is really like the courts.
jordan holmes
Exactly, yes.
dan friesen
Great, great.
I don't want to take calls about M4s.
I want to take calls about other things that I will make about me.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Cool, alright.
jordan holmes
I am the dumpster of liberty.
dan friesen
But the problem that I have particularly with this is the way that it's sort of blaming the audience.
It's blaming these callers for calling in on the topics that he's clearly rambling about for the majority of the show.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
dan friesen
I think that's unfair.
In the same way that he's making it the audience's fault if he doesn't make enough money.
That's another abusive thing.
It's, hey, you know what?
You don't give me money?
Then maybe you don't want the show to continue.
unidentified
I know.
jordan holmes
I know.
I hate that I'm not a capitalist, but even capitalists don't, like, work by their rules.
Like, you're a shitty business, so you go out of business, man.
It's not their fault.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is clearly a shitty business based on everything Alex has said about the model that he follows.
And he's been fairly lucky that it hasn't collapsed already on its own.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, yeah, you had a good run.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex is tired of asking everybody for money.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
And I would be, too.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
No matter how much energy it takes, it's got to be exhausting to do it as much as he does.
jordan holmes
Psychically.
alex jones
I'm just sick of sitting up here asking for support.
We sell great products.
We sell great things.
We have a huge audience.
If a small percentage bought the products, we wouldn't be in this situation.
And I'm not bitching.
But we have great products at infoworkstore.com.
And if you buy them, we stay on air.
If you don't, we don't.
And I just am maxed out with all these lawsuits and attacks, and I can't keep going.
I'm not lying to the public.
I'm my syndicator.
I run my own show.
I pay for the bandwidth.
I pay the crew.
I pay the infrastructure.
We do it all.
We're not complaining.
Hey, if you don't believe this is an important operation, and you don't believe what you say on air, fine.
I'm sick of doing this.
I'll sit back and watch society burn down to the ground, quite frankly.
You know, I was thinking five years ago, I wanted to, like, phase out within five years.
It's just so hard to do this every day.
And now because of the attacks, I fight even harder.
But like, hey, what if I just let them have what they want?
I guarantee you this, man.
We'll be right back.
We'll be right back with the next hour.
Stay with us.
dan friesen
Weird.
jordan holmes
If I'm not continually rich, I will watch all of you die in front of me with no...
Emotions!
dan friesen
And it will be...
Yeah, I will feel no guilt.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I won't care.
You didn't give me enough money.
dan friesen
There's also an underlying sort of supposition there that Alex believes that his show is the thing that's holding back the world burning.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
He's the dam.
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's wild.
Can you imagine feeling that important?
jordan holmes
No.
Well, actually, I'm bipolar, so at periods of time in my life, 100% yes, I have felt very important.
dan friesen
When under the sway of a powerful mental illness, you have felt something approximating this.
But for it to be a consistent belief that you, without shame, express on your worldwide broadcast, seems...
Seems a little fucked up.
jordan holmes
I wouldn't do it.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
That would be my advice.
I also wouldn't say that if I don't get enough money from you, I'll watch all of you die.
I wouldn't say that.
I wouldn't say that.
Personally, just let that one go.
dan friesen
Well, you know, I think Alex probably has a need to try and cover all possible bases in terms of like, how am I going to fuck with people enough to get them to send me money?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Maybe that's one way.
jordan holmes
Right.
But I mean...
A radio show that is essentially a protection racket for fear.
You know, like, he comes to your home and he's like, hey, it'd be terrible if you weren't afraid of something for five minutes, man.
I'm just saying.
dan friesen
Wouldn't life be boring if you weren't afraid of a bunch of stuff?
jordan holmes
It'd be terrible.
Can you imagine if you weren't afraid of your neighbors?
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So, we have one last clip here, and it's the third hour is Alex interviewing Judge Andrew Napolitano.
And I don't care.
jordan holmes
Wow, has he fallen.
alex jones
All right, ladies and gentlemen, Judge Andrew Napolitano, author, researcher, judge, good friend of mine, philosopher, really smart person is here with us for the rest of the hour, the next 55 minutes, and I really appreciate that.
He wants to get into the ongoing Durham investigation and what came out about the FBI and CIA on the spying on Trump.
We're all vindicated.
He wants to get into some of the things happening with Elon Musk and what's going on.
With Twitter.
dan friesen
The Durham investigations found no such proof, and Alex isn't vindicated in any way.
For what it's worth, the Durham shit is really just a right-wing media machine, and in March, a federal judge chastised Durham for, quote, including unnecessary information that fueled a firestorm in right-wing circles about supposed spying on former President Donald Trump in a routine filing that he made.
This is kind of the purpose of the investigation, and Alex and Napolitano are playing their roles in the whole thing.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Also, I can't imagine caring any less about something than what Judge Napolitano has to say about Elon Musk trying to buy Twitter.
unidentified
Oof.
jordan holmes
Why is life?
You know, that's one of those things that I never thought I would hear.
Judge Napolitano on Elon Musk buying Twitter.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, you're saying how far he's fallen, but, like, Napolitano's been on Alex's show for a long time.
jordan holmes
Oh, he has?
I thought he was just a Fox News guy.
dan friesen
He was.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He was.
But, no, he goes back quite a ways, actually.
unidentified
No shit.
dan friesen
He's somebody who, yeah, not super regularly, but he's somebody who's been on Infowars maybe even since, like, Tea Party days.
jordan holmes
If you have or ever were a judge.
And you go on InfoWars, you should be immediately disbarred, right?
dan friesen
I don't know if Napolitano is practicing.
What about Judge Mills Lane?
jordan holmes
What about Judge Joe Brown?
dan friesen
Joe Mathis?
Yeah.
Judge Judy?
jordan holmes
No, she's fine.
dan friesen
Punch and Judy?
Judy Tenuta?
jordan holmes
Judy Gold?
dan friesen
Come out of Judy's.
So yeah, I mean, look, the interview is not interesting at all.
Alex and Napolitano boring me.
And there's a little bit of a resentment, too, that this whole thing is just this long rambling about nothing and how doomed things are and that I need money.
If you don't give me money, well then maybe you don't want my show to exist.
Just all this bullshit.
I think, sincerely, I have a bit more respect for Alex being what he thinks he is.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And that is, like, Colonel Travis.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Going down with the Alamo fighting.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, Colonel Travis didn't go down, like, complaining about the Alamo the whole time.
jordan holmes
Right.
I mean, we don't know that.
dan friesen
Well, fine.
jordan holmes
I imagine whenever they were all in the Alamo, he was like, God, this hurts my back, they're all out there, this is fucking stupid.
dan friesen
He sucked, but also, I mean more the myth of it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I understand.
dan friesen
The mythologized version of it isn't like Santa Ana shows up and he's complaining about how unfair it is that no one came to help him.
You know, like there is a dignity, a quiet dignity of being in the situation where you're in this lawsuit and maybe you feel done dirty by it.
But your job is to be this broadcaster who brings the truth.
I think that's probably...
Predictable?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I think that makes Mark and Bill the Knights Who Say Knee, though.
So that's pretty fun.
You know?
dan friesen
Yep.
I'm trying to think of who I could be in that.
jordan holmes
You're the Black Knight, obviously, because this show is you continually getting your arms and legs chopped off.
dan friesen
No, I'm the guy who makes the horse noises.
I'm the sound effect guy.
jordan holmes
Alex is Sir Robin, naturally.
dan friesen
I haven't watched that in quite a while.
unidentified
Long time.
jordan holmes
Long time.
dan friesen
Anyway, so yeah, we've come to the end of this.
I think that maybe people were excited or expecting kind of a breakdown of some sort.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And I think his response is far more logistical than an emotional outburst.
Although there are little periods of emotional outbursts, but no storming off the set or anything.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
It's kind of like, I need money, because he needs money.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, it's the most honest this show has been in a while.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yep.
There's a definite sense of sincerity.
jordan holmes
Urgency, yeah.
dan friesen
I need money or I will not do this anymore.
jordan holmes
Or I'm going to whine even more.
dan friesen
And I think that the pretense of this, like, no matter what, even if things go really bad, I'll just have to fire everybody, but I'll still keep going.
Not a chance.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Without the trappings of the status symbols of his studio, the wealth and such, he would absolutely not be doing this.
jordan holmes
No, on an equal footing with the rest of the...
He's fucked.
dan friesen
Yeah, definitely.
If he didn't have a studio that looked like CNN and 50 employees or whatever and the ability to play up his relationships with all sorts of other people who are more mainstream and legitimate than him, then yeah.
Is Tucker Carlson gonna care about him if he's a podcaster?
Well, actually, maybe.
unidentified
Well...
dan friesen
Yeah, we'll see.
jordan holmes
We'll see what happens.
dan friesen
And his podcast is not gonna be allowed on Apple.
jordan holmes
No, that's for sure.
dan friesen
Anyway, Jordan.
jordan holmes
SoundCloud for him.
dan friesen
We'll be back.
We'll check in on how this develops and what the what is.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep.
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight.
And I go to bed, Jordan.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX.
Clark, I'd like to wish everyone a happy beginning to the dreamy, creamy summer.
alex jones
So dreamy, creamy.
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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