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April 8, 2022 - Knowledge Fight
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#667: July 25, 2003

Today, Dan and Jordan take a little breaky to the past.  In this installment, Alex creates a Michael Savage based conspiracy and performs a mini one-man show. Citations

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alex jones
19:35
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dan friesen
33:31
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jordan holmes
17:44
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steve quayle
00:02
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody!
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot today, Jordan, I guess, is that I have decided the year of the mustard is happening.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
There are going to be details revealed.
jordan holmes
Details revealed.
dan friesen
We have to do this differently than last time.
The Year of the Seltzer was a disaster.
jordan holmes
It wasn't a disaster, but it was a first draft.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
It was a first draft.
dan friesen
We learned a lot of lessons.
jordan holmes
Editing is important.
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
And you have to have a fearless inventory of failures.
And I took some time, I searched my soul, and I've identified a couple of real basic things that were done wrong.
And I'm going to correct those wrongs and make this the best year of the mustard ever.
But of course, our years begin on 420s, so 420 will be the beginning of the year of the mustard.
jordan holmes
Because that makes as much sense as anything else we do.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a stoner new year or something, even though I don't smoke weed.
jordan holmes
Nope, nope.
dan friesen
So Year of the Mustard is going to happen.
Get hyped.
jordan holmes
Live!
From the globalist headquarters, the Year of the Mustard is happening.
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm very excited.
I have so many...
Mustards I'm excited to try.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm excited.
Are you going to put a new section on the website?
dan friesen
Maybe not on the website, but we'll figure out somewhere to house the mustard.
jordan holmes
The mustard reviews?
dan friesen
There will be pictures of each mustard as well.
That was something I failed last year.
This is one of the failures.
I didn't have pictures of myself with all of the seltzers.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
This year.
Pictures of myself.
Selfies.
Mustard selfies.
jordan holmes
Did you know that we have an Instagram account?
dan friesen
We do.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I didn't realize that.
Yes, we do.
dan friesen
Oh, wow.
jordan holmes
We can do it for the gram, buddy.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Look for that.
So, yeah, I'm excited.
jordan holmes
Yes.
I'm excited, too.
My bright spot is my wife.
Yeah, I know, right?
dan friesen
We're legally obligated to do that.
We're on a podcast.
jordan holmes
It's my fault.
I should have called her my partner.
That may be the real reason.
Not respect for anything.
No, she purchased for me for my birthday...
A bicycle.
dan friesen
Ooh, yeah.
I saw that.
jordan holmes
Did you know that bicycles are expensive?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Now, I am willing to throw out my first ever absolute unqualified advertisement not paid for.
Working bikes is fucking incredible.
dan friesen
Is that the name of the company?
jordan holmes
That's the name of the place.
It's Chicago Company.
It's fucking amazing.
They take old bikes, refurbish them.
That's great.
They sell them for a few hundred bucks.
Place is cool as shit.
Everybody who works there knows too much about bikes.
dan friesen
It's basically kind of like a little bit of recycling.
That's good.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
It's great.
jordan holmes
It's the first bike I've had in about 10 years.
The last one I had was stolen after three weeks.
dan friesen
Sure.
Expect that to happen again.
jordan holmes
I'm rooting for this one to stay here for a full month.
dan friesen
Fingers crossed.
jordan holmes
I'm excited.
dan friesen
You wearing a helmet?
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Good.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Safety first.
jordan holmes
Safety first.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
We are back in the past for a number of reasons.
jordan holmes
Good news.
dan friesen
We're talking about July 25th, 2003.
And there's a couple of reasons.
The first is that Alex was out of town for most of this week.
Going to do his deposition in Connecticut.
He had to go to Connecticut.
jordan holmes
Costly deposition in Connecticut.
dan friesen
But he'll probably get a lot of the stall money back.
So it wasn't that costly, although tickets to Connecticut...
jordan holmes
I mean, flight tickets, yeah!
Short notice.
dan friesen
And then what's the emotional cost of hanging out with Norm Pattis?
Infinite.
It's like that MasterCard commercial.
But the opposite.
Priceless.
jordan holmes
Correct.
dan friesen
In reverse.
jordan holmes
In reverse.
dan friesen
So yeah, he's been out of studio for a good bit of time.
And honestly...
I think that largely Infowars content at the present day, you can pretty much predict everything that they're going to be talking about.
It's going to be amplification and more extreme versions of this labeling LGBTQ folk as grooming.
And that whole narrative, they're going to be amplifying that.
It's going to be yelling about the Supreme Court.
It's going to be Alex justifying Putin's behavior.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I'm not into it.
There's nothing more to say about his transphobia that we didn't already cover with his homophobia 20 years ago.
dan friesen
That's one of the things that I kind of find is a sticking point.
jordan holmes
I mean, what are you going to say?
The fascists have chosen the trans people, the trans community, to try and wedge their fucking nightmarish bullshit into the rest of our lives.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And, yeah, it's scary.
jordan holmes
And it's vicious.
It's awful.
dan friesen
And unacceptable in every way and shall be not tolerated.
You bet.
So, I wanted to go back to the past.
But we also have another little bit of business, I believe.
A little bit of an announcement.
And that is, we have a crazy month coming up.
jordan holmes
That's one way of putting it.
dan friesen
You are going to be on vacation, on your honeymoon, in quotes.
jordan holmes
Heavy quotes.
Heavy quotes.
They're all honeymoons.
dan friesen
Sure.
So you're going to be gone, and then you're going to be back.
And then on April 25th, Alex's trial in Austin begins.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And we will be going to Austin.
jordan holmes
I mean, we don't have a choice, really.
dan friesen
You described it as our Comic-Con.
jordan holmes
It really is kind of our Comic-Con, isn't it?
unidentified
I guess.
jordan holmes
There's not much else to call it.
dan friesen
I think that we have to approach it with an air of more dignity than that.
jordan holmes
I understand.
dan friesen
I don't want you dressing up.
As like David Knight.
jordan holmes
Not gonna happen.
Not gonna happen.
dan friesen
At the court.
But yeah, we're going to be in Austin for an extended stay over the course of the trial.
And ideally, providing daily updates on the goings on in Austin.
jordan holmes
That's the ideal situation.
dan friesen
So in theory, we won't have regular episodes during that time.
It will be a two-week miniseries, essentially, of our adventure in Austin at the trial.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It'll be interesting.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We've never done that before.
dan friesen
No, we have not.
It's uncharted territory.
It is a great wide open.
And we'll see if it's a complete disaster.
It might be.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, we'll just do it so where you'll pretend that you play a clip, right?
And I'll try and remember what it was Alex said, and I'll do the voice.
And then we'll talk about it like I didn't.
dan friesen
There may be no clips.
There's not going to be any clips.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
So yeah, that's stuff to look forward to.
There's some other stuff.
I may do an episode about Russell Brand at some point.
Still thinking about that?
jordan holmes
All things are possible.
dan friesen
But yeah, this month is...
jordan holmes
It's gonna be intense.
dan friesen
Looking out in front of it is...
jordan holmes
Yep, yep.
But when we look back at it, it'll be great.
dan friesen
Fingers crossed.
jordan holmes
Or we will be dead by then.
You know, who knows?
dan friesen
It's a possibility.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today, like I said, we've got this episode to go over, but first, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Roger Stone's orgy janitor.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Next, you've forced my hand, Space.
Now I have to nuke the moon.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Next, playboy buddy Rose.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
Thank you!
dan friesen
Next, Zap Action Rousedower.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Zap.
dan friesen
And Spaghetti is a good dog.
Please don't throw him at the wall.
Also, hi, Mom.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk!
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
And we got a couple of technocrats here in the mix.
Alright, so the first...
Thank you so much, you are now a technocrat, too.
My wife can't remember what episode her shout-out is on, so here you go, Kristen.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So that's your technocrat.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And this other one, this is a correction.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So on the last episode...
We called this person a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
And they threatened legal action.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, that is reasonable.
dan friesen
They threatened to sick barns on me.
jordan holmes
That is in trouble.
dan friesen
And so, I have to say, the Bosch key, you are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
I have risen above my enemies.
I might quit tomorrow, actually.
I'm just going to take a little breaky now.
A little breaky for me.
And then we're going to come back.
And I'm going to start the show over.
But I'm the devil!
I've got to be taken out of here!
Fuck you!
Fuck you!
I've got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your New World Order, and fuck the horse you rode in on, and all your shit!
Maybe today should be my last broadcast.
Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.
Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow, and you never see me again.
That's really what I want to do.
I never want to come back here again.
I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air.
I'll be better tomorrow.
dan friesen
I think that if tomorrow is the past, he's better than the present.
jordan holmes
Well, he will be better yesterday then.
dan friesen
That's true.
And tomorrow comes today.
alex jones
Right.
jordan holmes
And that's not going to be good.
dan friesen
No.
So we start off here, and Alex is getting a little bit introspective about how he never does his job at the beginning of the show, which I could appreciate a little.
jordan holmes
20 years, huh?
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
I am a frustrated individual.
alex jones
I can spend the next three hours on just four or five news stories that I have here in front of me.
Instead, I...
I reviewed the articles I never got to in the last four days.
I sat here and went through the stacks this week, and there were over 200 news articles that I read and printed that I never covered on air.
There were several hundred that we did cover on air.
dan friesen
Absolutely not.
There were not several hundred that he covered on air.
jordan holmes
I can't imagine him covering several hundred of anything on air.
dan friesen
Nope.
I do kind of appreciate that.
I mean, one thing you could do is just be like, hey, it's a slow news day.
unidentified
We're going to catch up on things that slip through the cracks.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
That might be a more savvy way to present this than like, hey, I got a lot of news to cover today, but I fucked up and didn't cover a hundred news stories in the last four days.
jordan holmes
I mean, explain to me.
At what point you decide, I'm never going to cover more than 50 stories.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
Right?
So then let's only print out 50 stories, man.
What are we doing printing out 200 stories?
dan friesen
You never need more than one page.
jordan holmes
You never need more than one!
dan friesen
You need one page that has a couple of talking points on it, a couple of headlines.
jordan holmes
He needs a vision board in front of him with copy and pasted magazine articles, like a ransom note in front of him that he can just read off of.
dan friesen
Yeah, or just the Drudge Report's front page.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that'll work too.
Print that out and make it big.
dan friesen
So Alex has a story out of the San Francisco Chronicle.
jordan holmes
SFC.
dan friesen
This is Big...
alex jones
Take this article from yesterday out of the San Francisco Chronicle.
dan friesen
This is one of the ones he missed.
alex jones
Right.
But it says that the Bohemian Grove, Arnold Schwarzenegger was chosen as the heir apparent in the runoff race, the recall race that's coming up against Governor Gun Grab, Open Borders, New World Order, Shill Davis.
jordan holmes
Is that his full name?
alex jones
That it talks about the Bohemian Grove and the Republican leaders, national and state there, in secret, and that they have told the press that they want Arnold Schwarzenegger to run, and that if he runs, that he's got their blessing.
If not, there's a, quote, another liberal Republican that they want to run.
Liberal Republican.
This is where the Bushes go.
dan friesen
So I couldn't find this exact article that Alex is talking about in the San Francisco Chronicle, but I was able to find articles in the Chronicle from around this time.
I know what he's talking about, and it's basically that the former mayor of Los Angeles, Richard Reardon, he had said that he was going to run, but he wouldn't if Arnold ran.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And he's a more liberal Republican.
That's what Alex is talking about.
And I guess this is around the same time that the Bohemian Club meets at the Grove.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And so there's some word that maybe they wanted Arnold to run, or some of the elites wanted Arnold to run.
jordan holmes
So this dude drops out before maybe he necessarily even began campaigning.
dan friesen
Reardon?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it's a mad dash for the governorship.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
At this point in time, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I'm very excited about the fact that the recall election is about to happen in Alex's life, because this was...
Wild stuff.
jordan holmes
It was nuts.
dan friesen
There were like 200 candidates.
jordan holmes
It was nuts!
dan friesen
Gary Coleman ran.
jordan holmes
It was absolutely nuts.
dan friesen
Mary Carey.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
It was one of those things where you're like, yeah, yeah, that is one of those uniquely California things.
For as much as Guy from Florida, etc., you know the rule.
California has those completely different sets of things where you're like, no, that's...
That's them!
It didn't happen here in Illinois, that's for sure.
dan friesen
I think the recall election of 2003 is probably one of the more bizarre events of state politic.
jordan holmes
It resembled more the wacky races.
dan friesen
And it definitely is, like, I can't wait to see it through Alex's eyes.
I know that he hates Arnold Schwarzenegger.
I know that.
jordan holmes
Oh, he already sounds like it.
dan friesen
I don't know what he thinks about Cruz Bustamante, but I know that he's a Democrat, so Alex probably hates him.
jordan holmes
I hope he tries to say his name at least once.
dan friesen
I would love it.
jordan holmes
Cruz Bustamante!
dan friesen
I don't know who Alex would back in this race.
jordan holmes
Gary Coleman!
dan friesen
Could be.
Could end up being a Coleman guy.
jordan holmes
Could be a Coleman guy.
dan friesen
So yeah, this really gets me going.
Because there's a lot of really dark topics, and it's sometimes hard to dwell on those too much.
And this, I think, will be fairly silly.
unidentified
Love it.
dan friesen
And Alex will be very mad about stuff for no reason.
jordan holmes
This is going to be great.
dan friesen
So we have some predictions that Alex makes that I think are not very good.
alex jones
We're on the edge of war with North Korea.
North Korea says if there's not a deal, they're going to go ahead and nuke us on September 9th.
Rumsfeld's got battle plans to launch an attack in October that he leaked to push North Korea into an escalation, which has now happened.
If you believe these photos of the Saddam sons are real, I got a bridge I want to sell you.
They reek!
Of being fake.
dan friesen
I want that bridge.
jordan holmes
I want that bridge.
alex jones
Remember, they claim they've killed him three separate times, and they killed Chemical Ali, and he's still alive, and I thought they'd found the body, and there's some mindless psychological victories in this sports fan society.
dan friesen
Alex is ramping up the idea of North Korea nuking us, which did not happen, and he's still insisting these pictures of Saddam's sons, and the whole thing is fake, which it was not.
jordan holmes
It does make me laugh now to think back on how a lot of people were like, North Korea has nukes, man.
They're crazy.
They could nuke us at any time.
And now we live in 2022, and it's like...
They still couldn't shoot a rocket far enough to hit us with a nuke.
Not a chance.
It's 20 years later, and there's no way they hit us with a nuke.
dan friesen
I think you're probably right, but I also think that in these conversations, it's always best to approach with a little bit of trepidation.
jordan holmes
No, I dare them to nuke Chicago, yes.
No, no, no, no, no.
Dear Kim Johnson.
dan friesen
No.
So, this whole California gubernatorial race is bringing out some demons in Alex, and these demons are forcing him to attack one of his own.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And by one of his own, I mean another bigot who yells on the radio.
jordan holmes
Oh, Michael Savage?
dan friesen
That's the one.
unidentified
Yeah!
alex jones
And yes, Michael Savage, the beatnik, super ultra-liberal, so ultra-liberal, he is able to clone conservatives into liberal neocon minions.
He's announced he'll be exploring an exploration, yes, another doublespeak, exploring an exploration of governor as independent.
That will pull real conservative votes away and ensure that Davis stays in office.
Again, as the key operative, he is there as the shill.
As plain as day, it's a political fact, folks.
Do the math.
We'll be right back.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Michael Savage, I guess, is talking shit about considering running, and so now Alex has decided that, I mean, at this point in his career, Alex does hate Michael Savage, and he thinks he's a big old liberal, so he's the spoiler.
He's gonna come in and suck the conservative votes out and make it so Cruz Bustamante wins.
jordan holmes
So, using his liberal lies that he's pretending to be a conservative, he's gonna go get the independence.
And they're going to be conservatives because the conservatives wouldn't support Republicans because Republicans are clearly liberals and Democrats are fucking...
I mean, they're not demons yet.
No, that's true.
What are Democrats now?
dan friesen
Well, demons aren't really in play.
jordan holmes
Not yet.
dan friesen
Because you'd look silly if you were yelling about that in 2003.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's 200 people trying to become California governor.
You can't be talking about demons.
dan friesen
There's 200 people trying to become the governor of California, and there's 500 people who have declared themselves the president of Texas.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Shit is out of control.
jordan holmes
That's true.
You gotta get that under handle first.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So I just pulled this next clue because I think it could, like, legitimately...
This could be played any year on Alex's show, and you wouldn't be able to be like, well, that seems out of place.
alex jones
I cannot stress enough the critical juncture we have all reached in history.
We have America's liberties and freedoms being put into a wood chipper.
dan friesen
That doesn't mean anything.
He says in 2003, 2004, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, all the way down to the present day.
It's always the case.
We're at the most critical juncture of all time.
jordan holmes
And we could even pick whatever bigotry of the day we're dealing with.
Just pick a year, and he's like, making gay cakes, that'll be the end of ever destroying a constitution.
dan friesen
I saw a meme.
jordan holmes
Obamacare!
It doesn't matter.
Everything.
dan friesen
Anything.
Yeah, it's just a shocking realization of, like, the triviality of what he talks about.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Mixed in with the very serious and real things that have consequences, like that bigotry.
Right, right, right, right.
It's just a little bit disheartening, just, you know, just seeing the present mirrored so clearly in the past of, this is the most important thing ever.
You don't even remember my...
He doesn't know what he was talking about there.
jordan holmes
No clue.
dan friesen
Is he talking about savage running?
jordan holmes
We're at a critical junker!
Junk jerk!
Come on, man!
dan friesen
So anyway, it's the United States.
Liberties.
jordan holmes
What about them?
dan friesen
Woodchipper.
jordan holmes
Ooh.
dan friesen
America's being destroyed.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
alex jones
We see the size of government growing at record rates.
We have a $43 trillion deficit, according to the Dallas Morning News and Top Economist.
We have a neoconservative movement viciously attacking our Second Amendment rights, savaging our borders.
We're savaging our troops, signing on to huge UN treaties while putting out the rhetoric that they're against the UN and fooling shallow-minded conservatives.
We're in the midst of a massive sneak attack, ladies and gentlemen.
Again, if this was a military base, we're on fire.
The buildings are shattered wrecks.
Scroon bodies are everywhere.
A few of us are stumbling around with shrapnel holes and blood streaming.
And our compadres, who should be awakened and should be aware of what's happening, are walking around with bloody faces saying, I love George Bush.
As capital ships of the neocon army sit off at a...
At a distance, blasting what's left of America.
And again, as America is blown to bits, figuratively and literally, the neocons dance around saying, oh, it's manna from heaven.
unidentified
Thank you so much.
dan friesen
I think there's such a thing as getting lost in a metaphor.
I think sometimes you can hear somebody speak so eloquently that you're like, oh, I just got caught up in that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
This is that, but the reverse.
You're caught up in the confusion.
jordan holmes
Yeah, see, I feel like he got caught up in the story.
He thought he was making a metaphor, right?
And then he was like, actually, I kind of really like this story.
dan friesen
And I also want it to be literal.
jordan holmes
So he gets into this movie mode where he's like, oh, man, these people with blood streaming down their faces saying I love George Bush.
Like, what does that mean?
What is that allegory?
dan friesen
Well, it's the mindless neocons who have blood on their face.
jordan holmes
See, that's again an issue for me.
dan friesen
It's literal.
He said it's figurative and literal.
jordan holmes
How do you think they're saying it if they've got blood all over their face, you know?
dan friesen
I love George Bush.
That's a lot of blood.
unidentified
They're in a tank of blood.
jordan holmes
That's where we went with it.
unidentified
Okay, alright.
dan friesen
So, these folks who are the enemies, according to Alex, they're basically America.
But they're not America.
They're hiding as America.
alex jones
Mushroom clouds are enveloping everything that our veterans have fought and died for.
What the flag symbolizes is being trashed and flushed down the toilet.
And the enemy's uniform is the American flag as they run around butchering the country.
Their uniforms are the American flag.
It's an enemy's sneak attack.
Wolves in sheep's clothing.
Trojan horse.
Hamouflage.
Mayday.
The enemy's in our uniforms.
Watch out!
jordan holmes
We're under attack!
alex jones
There's another one!
Get down!
It's happening right now.
dan friesen
I think Alex is into flights of fancy today.
jordan holmes
I mean, he's having a little fun.
He's going to places.
dan friesen
There's life within his bones.
That's for sure.
jordan holmes
He's doing character work.
dan friesen
Oh my god, wait until a little bit later.
He gets deep into a character.
He does a one-man show.
It's nuts.
unidentified
Alright, I'm gonna do Mark Twain.
dan friesen
I think there's trouble with the enemy's Uniform is the American flag.
I think when you establish that as kind of your mindset, you basically get to just randomly choose who your enemy is.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, it does seem like what he's saying is everyone is possibly behind the attack on you personally, so you should never be confident unless they also love me.
But even if they love me, they could be lying to you.
dan friesen
Anybody who expresses, like, patriotism or love of country is probably suspect if they're not weirdos like me.
jordan holmes
Strangely enough, the only people you can trust have declared themselves king of Texas.
dan friesen
No, you can't trust those dudes.
So, Michael Savage also you can't trust.
jordan holmes
Can't trust him.
dan friesen
He's an enemy operative.
jordan holmes
He's an enemy of the beatniks.
alex jones
I actually tuned in to hear Lord Savage, Mr. Put anyone that disagrees with the government in a forced labor camp, take their assets.
Disagreeing with the government is treason.
And again, there was a big San Jose Mercury news story with him with the big Karl Marx beard and the beatnik outfit.
I mean, you talk about trash of the earth, folks.
The guy wrote books about how wonderful the Sovietization of America would be.
He loved Allen Ginsberg, who I don't need to comment about.
I mean, just as sick as it gets.
Oh, who wrote poems about how wonderful Moloch is.
I forgot to add that part.
jordan holmes
And that's what you took away from Ginsburg?
alex jones
He says everything you want to hear.
He says the right things on a bunch of issues, but then always slides the poison in.
Patriot acts good, blah, blah, blah, Bush is okay.
He said he's thinking about running for governor as an independent.
Now, he was going to run as a Republican and really carry out those policies.
I'd say, okay, let's see if he does it once he gets elected, and I predict he wouldn't.
He would stall the whole agenda.
Because the guy's an operative, folks.
Very sophisticated.
dan friesen
This is an accusation of Savage knowingly being in on this operation.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
He's an operative.
He's not just somebody who's, you know, not doing the right thing, according to Alex.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
He's not someone who's misguided.
It's someone who's in on a conspiracy.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's a little silly.
jordan holmes
Now, obviously, his radio show comes first.
Of course.
But...
20 years before this, in the early 80s, the CIA came to Michael Savage while he was a beatnik, and they were like, man, you gotta get out of this.
dan friesen
He might have been writing diet books at that point.
jordan holmes
Okay, well then, man, you gotta get out of this diet game.
Get into the radio industry, get famous enough to where you can run for governor during one of the most chaotic times that anybody's ever run for governor of California.
Then you'll be able to get the conservative...
What is the plan?
dan friesen
I don't...
It's basically that.
jordan holmes
I forgot what the end goal is.
To get Cruz in there.
dan friesen
But here's the problem.
jordan holmes
Right.
There's no demons.
dan friesen
Well, Alex seems to think that Gray Davis can win.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But he's not running in the recall election.
jordan holmes
Right, because he's been recalled.
dan friesen
Right.
He is out, and there's a special election to replace him.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so Alex seems to think that Arnold is going to run, and then Savage will run and suck the Republican votes away from him, so the two of them will cancel each other out, and Gray Davis will stay in office.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
That's kind of the best I can do for you in terms of what I think Alex...
jordan holmes
He did not stay in office.
dan friesen
I believe so.
I can't remember if it was a choice or if he just actually couldn't.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think it's a choice.
Newsom ran again whenever he got.
dan friesen
But he didn't get recalled.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's true.
dan friesen
They were threatening to recall.
Yeah, you're right.
I wish I had a better understanding of that, but I think that if you get recalled, you don't end up in the next election.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I don't know.
dan friesen
But anyway, Alex thinks that Gray Davis is going to win, and I mean, he's wrong.
But there is another aspect to this.
So Michael Savage is the fly in the ointment, as it were.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
But there's another guy who's just like that.
alex jones
That's the real hardcore political facts.
Just like it turned out Ross Perot was having meetings with Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton.
He shows up.
It looked like Bush was going to win.
They wanted to have this staged event.
They wanted to have the liberal agenda in there.
On the surface, so that later they could have the savior Republican neocon revolution was all scripted out.
So pull your votes away.
Of course, Mr. Doesn't Like Big Government made his first big contract, Ross Perot with EDS, with Nelson Rockefeller in New York, administering Social Security and state welfare and a bunch of other CIA contracts.
He was going to get the contract for the national health care system.
And so as soon as he started winning in the polls, he acted all crazy and said, I'm quitting and did all this and then jumped back in when it looked like Bush might win.
jordan holmes
Is that what he did?
alex jones
It's all stage, people.
jordan holmes
Is it?
alex jones
And so you see the key little neocon jumping in to make sure a real Republican doesn't win.
dan friesen
This is definitely not what Alex thinks now.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
In more recent times, Alex has a completely contradictory narrative about Ross Perot.
In the present, Alex definitely has said that Perot was the first attempt at a Trump-like president and he would have won, but the globalists threatened his family so he bowed out of the race.
It's so bizarre how you go back in history and listen to his show and there are these blatant, substantive contradictions.
In 2003, Alex knows that Michael Savage is a knowing shill for the globalists, trying to suck votes away from a real conservative in the California gubernatorial race.
But a few years later, Alex will swear that he's one of the legends of the patriot movement, and he's been a trailblazer for all these years.
jordan holmes
He's the one who changed the game, man!
dan friesen
In 2003, Alex knows that Ross Perot was working with Bush and Clinton to rig that election, but in following years, he won't know this anymore, and in fact, he knows the opposite to be true.
The reason there are these absurd contradictions is because Alex is just making up reality to suit whatever he wants to be true at the moment.
Whatever makes his job easier and makes him more money is true.
So he rewrote his narrative to be that Perot was a noble hero who the globalists forced out of the race.
None of this means anything to him.
It's just an exercise in radicalizing people further to the right, consistently insisting that disaster is right around the corner, and then offering no real solution other than tuning in to Alex's show tomorrow to see what you should be afraid of.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's dumb.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think people like Alex should not be allowed to talk about people like Ross Perot, just because you're gonna make up bullshit, and it's never going to be as interesting as the reality of what Ross Perot was.
dan friesen
So you want him to keep Ross Perot's name out of his mouth?
jordan holmes
Unless you're just telling...
Telling interesting stories about Ross Perot, which is always...
Hey, Ross Perot gave Bernie Sanders a sword.
Of course he did.
dan friesen
But what is a more interesting story than one that's not true?
jordan holmes
I mean, the ones that he did do, where he's like, hey, I'm gonna get, like, 20 guys together, and we're gonna overthrow the guy.
Like, I mean, he's out of his mind.
Ross Perot's crazy.
He's the best.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
H. Ross.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, so these are just little fingerprints of, like, wow, your story is completely different across time.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Wonder why that is.
Oh, wait, it's super fucking obvious.
jordan holmes
Doesn't matter to him.
dan friesen
So Alex thinks that Savage is going to make it, so Gray Davis wins.
alex jones
They got Savage in there, Mr. Weiner, Mr. Michael Weiner, the beatnik guru.
I mean, we're talking top-level folks, the people that helped bring down the younger generation, that helped start the 60s breakdown.
I mean, these are the technicians.
They're back again.
The daddy-o is back, and he's going to be the independent, ensuring that the real hardcore conservatives...
That are fooled by Mr. Weiner and all his fake names and the rest of it will not vote for the real Republicans and so you're going to end up with Davis or Schwarzenegger or one of these other liberals.
And it's in your face.
It's as clear as the nose on my face.
A five-year-old with basic Machiavellian political understanding doesn't even take that.
A four-year-old could figure this out.
But you know what?
They're gonna love it.
They're gonna love it, and Davis is gonna stay in office.
dan friesen
He's not.
So, Alex at the middle says it's gonna be Gray Davis or Schwarzenegger or one of these liberals, but then at the end, more specific, it's gonna be Davis.
jordan holmes
It's gonna be Davis.
dan friesen
And it ain't.
jordan holmes
It is not.
dan friesen
But yeah, I like the way that he's a stickler for specificity.
A five-year-old with Machiavellian understanding.
No, no, no, no, no.
A four-year-old.
jordan holmes
That is such a fun...
I do love that.
Listen, any five-year-old rocket scientist could understand this rocket science.
dan friesen
Any five-year-old that's read The Prince is going to be able to handle this shit.
jordan holmes
Any five-year-old with a beyond, I guess, massive...
Master's degree level education is going to be able to understand this.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Obviously.
dan friesen
Sure.
No, no, no, no.
jordan holmes
No, come on.
It's a four-year-old.
dan friesen
Just a four-year-old.
jordan holmes
Three-year-olds with a master's degree don't understand shit!
dan friesen
It's real bizarre.
unidentified
It's weird.
dan friesen
But this is so consistent on this episode that Savage is going to be this guy who ruins the chances of an actual conservative winning.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I mean, I think that the writing is on the wall for the most part that like...
There's going to be a circus.
It's going to be nonsense.
And Schwarzenegger's probably going to win.
jordan holmes
It seemed that way.
It did feel like everybody was kind of almost treating the idea of Arnold winning as both an insane thought and an inevitable one.
You know, everybody was like, there's no way that Arnold Schwarzenegger's going to be our governor.
It's Arnold Schwarzenegger.
dan friesen
I mean, it's Arnold Schwarzenegger.
jordan holmes
I mean, he's got 40% of the vote, so I guess he's going to be our governor.
dan friesen
Alex has, I don't know how to say this.
The Kobe Bryant story, sexual assault story, has come out.
jordan holmes
This was a long time ago.
dan friesen
And so Alex has some thoughts on it.
I'm going to present this here.
alex jones
Also, I'm getting, I mean, it must be 100 emails a day, faxes, calls about Kobe Bryant.
I'm not going to discuss it on my show.
jordan holmes
All right.
Come on, man.
alex jones
I think from the evidence and with my instincts that the guy's innocent, okay?
I'm not defending the trash that's in the NBA or the NFL or any of these big sports.
They're a bunch of gang members on power trips.
They're not role models.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, it's crazy when your misogyny trumps your bigotry.
But they're somehow both in the same sentence.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know how to handle that response.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's bananas.
I don't believe her.
Now, I hate all black people.
What?
What did you just say?
dan friesen
As a knee jerk, I think this woman is lying.
jordan holmes
If I were ever credibly accused of that...
Obviously, all women are liars.
But also, you know, I hate all black people.
It's a difficult conundrum for Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Yeah, very, very bizarre.
I think that if his whole thing was like, I'm not going to talk about this, you shouldn't have brought it up, because then you just, you know, showed some misogyny and racism.
Quite clearly.
jordan holmes
I really can't think of a worse possible take on that.
dan friesen
Should have just not talked about it like you planned to, Alex.
jordan holmes
That was about as bad as it gets.
dan friesen
Kind of dumb.
So there's some other things that Alex is only talking about because he has to.
jordan holmes
Sure, he doesn't want to.
dan friesen
Sure, he wouldn't talk about this recall election at all.
jordan holmes
He's got to get through hundreds of stories.
alex jones
The only reason I've talked about the gubernatorial recall and the political jockeying and jousting and positioning...
That's going on in California is because it's an illustration of how politics really operate in this corrupt, decadent phase and this decline of our civilization.
That's why I spent time on it.
The only reason I'll talk about these Saddam sons photos is because they're obviously fakes.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
That's a breathtakingly embarrassing clip.
You have Alex rationalizing his choice to cover two stories that he feels are otherwise beneath him, and he's totally wrong about both of them.
He's wrong that Saddam's son's deaths were faked, but he's actually way more wrong about the recall race.
He's more wrong there because he's wrong conceptually, not just factually.
Alex has decided that this thing that he's imagining will happen is a perfect summation of the way our political system is corrupt.
But that thing he's imagining wasn't real.
It didn't happen.
Arnold beat Cruz Bustamante by 17% and there was no real spoiler.
No other Democrat or Republican in the race would have greatly affected the outcome if they weren't in it and Savage didn't even run.
He was just talking shit.
The thing that Alex is imagining will happen is a perfect summation of how Alex imagines the political system works.
But none of this is connected to reality.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
He's very bad at this.
jordan holmes
It does seem like he's making up stories and then being like, see?
That's how the stories work.
Why does a reality work like that?
Obviously it does.
dan friesen
Well, it does.
You're just not seeing behind the scenes.
jordan holmes
You're looking at the obvious.
I'm looking at what's underneath.
dan friesen
The made-up stuff.
Yeah, exactly.
So...
You know, there's some more prediction kind of stuff.
Get back to a little bit of North Korea predicting.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And I mean, like, you know, Alex is 99% right about his predictions, except for the ones that he just kind of ignores and pretends he didn't make.
alex jones
And I think you're going to see a preemptive strike by North Korea, or the globalists are going to carry one out and say North Korea did it.
There will be a national draft instated.
jordan holmes
For North Korea?
alex jones
There will be mass arrest.
There will be U.S. cities will be vaporized.
And then out of this, the government will become our leaders.
Total worship of government will begin.
Mass mobilization, youth in black uniforms, in youth organizations marching, giant flags everywhere, a pyramid, all-seeing eye, symbols on television.
unidentified
Sorry, what?
alex jones
That's the Total Information Awareness Network symbol.
It's going to be a running man's society out of World War III, folks.
That's the plan, folks.
That's what the CFR and PNAC and all of them said.
dan friesen
So that's the plan.
jordan holmes
The PNAC document said that North Korea was going to launch a preemptive strike.
Preemptive being, I assume, because they think we're going to strike them?
dan friesen
Yeah, because Rumsfeld's been talking shit.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
So Rumsfeld is planning to strike North Korea.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And North Korea's like, we can't allow that to happen.
So they're going to preemptive strike us with missiles that, again, cannot reach our shores whatsoever.
dan friesen
But that's why there's the caveat that maybe it'll be the globalists' false flag in the United States.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
In order to make it look like North Korea did it, in order to get a draft in place.
jordan holmes
Now, that's where I'm struggling.
dan friesen
So then we get youth in black uniforms.
jordan holmes
Explain to me.
dan friesen
Diamonds and pyramids on the TV.
jordan holmes
Like, just population-wise, explain to me why we would need a military draft to fight only North Korea.
dan friesen
I can't.
I guess, conceivably, Alex is imagining...
Things breaking down on like a half of the world versus the other half.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean that...
dan friesen
Like it would have to spiral out into like...
jordan holmes
Well, North Korea to China to etc.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That would have to be how it goes.
dan friesen
Yeah, because it wouldn't just be North Korea.
jordan holmes
It's not like the government's like, listen, if we draft all the men, then we can just literally occupy all of the territory.
We'll stand arm in arm and we will stand over all of North Korea.
dan friesen
I don't think that's the plan.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But yeah, youth in black uniforms.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Pyramids.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Cool.
jordan holmes
Man, I can't believe that they worked together with the Democrats 20 years later to get Trump out of office.
dan friesen
Yeah, with those fake ballots.
jordan holmes
With those fake ballots.
It's crazy.
They've changed a lot, too.
dan friesen
Well, to be fair, this was when King Jong-il was around.
jordan holmes
Right!
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was his dad.
dan friesen
So, here's where Alex does his one-man show.
This is nonsense.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I mean, you think about it.
When they blow a city, folks, it's going to be just government worship.
Oh, Governor, do anything.
Just keep me safe.
My pension fund's gone.
Oh, thank you for putting $200 a month on my credit, on my little driver's license that just so happened to have this credit card functionality embedded eight years ago on it.
jordan holmes
Oh, it's okay.
alex jones
I lost my pension fund, and I've got to work in one of the work grades digging ditches.
And sure, the officers slap us around a little, but you know, they're just trying to keep us safe after what happened.
After the enemy released smallpox, then we learn that the militias and the ultra-right-wingers have been working with al-Qaeda and Saddam all along and have been working for Kim Jong-il.
And I'm just so glad the president's moving hard and fast.
He nuked him.
He nuked Syria.
He nuked Iran.
He nuked North Korea.
And Putin's joined us in the fight.
Our troops are tied down overseas, being overrun in some areas.
I'm glad they...
unidentified
I'm glad they brought in UN forces to help.
jordan holmes
It's been tough.
This is less subtle than rent.
alex jones
I lost family in Cleveland when the bomb went off.
Shut up!
jordan holmes
Arrest my neighbor!
He's against the homeland!
alex jones
I want to wear a uniform.
I want to join.
I want an armband.
Thanks for my submachine gun, Captain.
What do I do for America?
You get out there and you report anybody that gives us a problem.
By the way, I want to take over my neighbor's business.
You want to help me?
You want to be the manager of it?
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
Sure, the economy's bad now.
I'll do anything for money.
Good.
You've just joined the homeland.
You're going to see it.
You're going to see it unless we get the word out now.
It's all over, folks.
It's all over.
You're going to see all that happen unless we get the word out that the globalists are orchestrating these events.
Alright, we'll come back and take calls, I promise.
dan friesen
He's been teasing he's gonna go to calls for a while now.
Instead, you gotta do that two-minute act-out.
jordan holmes
Whether tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous misfortune, my friend.
dan friesen
Dear God.
jordan holmes
Or to sleep.
dan friesen
I kept thinking, someone should just interrupt me like, Alex, you alright?
jordan holmes
Alex, this is not going well.
Do you think you're going to dig your way out of this hole?
unidentified
Do you think that second character is going to help?
jordan holmes
Was that the one that was going to save it?
dan friesen
The captain?
The captain who wants to take over his neighbor's business?
jordan holmes
Who wants to take over his neighbor's business specifically?
dan friesen
Yeah, it's great that this new character is coming in.
It has very clear motivations.
jordan holmes
I don't know if I can think of an improv character that somebody's...
To play with themselves that has gone worse than that.
He's a bad partner for himself.
dan friesen
But admirable that there is like a clear want.
jordan holmes
That is true.
dan friesen
I want to take over my neighbor's business.
Do you want to help other character in my head?
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Yes, there is that.
Del Close would appreciate that part.
dan friesen
Yeah, that was tough.
That was bizarre.
jordan holmes
Brutal.
dan friesen
I'm not sure there are many instances that I can recall of Alex doing multiple characters for that long.
jordan holmes
That was like three minutes long.
dan friesen
It was something.
So Alex does get to calls.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And a good bit of this show is calls.
And this first guy, he asks a question about a story that you can very clearly tell Alex knows nothing about.
unidentified
It didn't go into any great detail, but it was Paul Harvey.
It almost sounded like the British might be bringing their act over here.
Was Bush in the process of appointing a new Secretary of the Navy?
Secretary of the Navy?
alex jones
I had heard that, but so...
unidentified
Well, the guy was found dead, and Paul Harvey said that they're saying now, he didn't go into any detail, he just said that they're saying now that it was a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
alex jones
Yeah, and you know, it's funny with the Dr. David Kelly situation, they just calmly report that, oh yeah, it's suicide, despite the fact that everything points against...
Show a shine.
dan friesen
There's a story about Colin McMillan, who's a man who Bush had nominated to be Secretary of the Navy, who died by suicide while waiting for his confirmation by the Senate.
People who knew him commented that he had a recurrence of a cancer that he'd been struggling with and he thought that he'd actually beaten, and that was a possible contributing factor in his death.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Bigger picture here, though, you can see that Alex has absolutely no idea what this caller is talking about, but he can't let that be too obvious.
He's supposed to know everything, so when this caller brings up a name, Of course.
Of course.
But by all accounts, he should know all these stories.
It seems like it would be a big story.
jordan holmes
It seems like it would be in at least one of his 200 story stacks or whatever.
dan friesen
Yeah, it should be in there.
jordan holmes
I mean, it doesn't mean he's going to get to it, but the point of having all of those stacks would ostensibly be to demonstrate that he has read all of this information, thus...
Capable of recalling it to you, should you so call it.
dan friesen
It's meant to show that.
jordan holmes
Yes!
Exactly.
dan friesen
It's meant to show the appearance that he is.
jordan holmes
Give the impression of that.
dan friesen
So, I got a call who liked the Ann Coulter interview.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Which is a very, very big theme on Alex's show.
It's a suggestion of who else Alex should have on.
jordan holmes
Screeching crows!
unidentified
I enjoyed when you had Ann Coulter and exposure as a neocon.
alex jones
I do have more neocons coming on.
unidentified
I had an idea of Al Franken might be a good guest.
He's got a book out.
As a former liberal, it would be nice to...
We think we're done with the Clintons, but I hear Hillary's name being tossed around.
It's kind of frightening.
alex jones
Oh, yeah.
All the neocons are former liberals.
Sure, I formerly ran the Fourth International as a communist agent, but I'm a neocon now.
Go ahead and give me your gun.
You can trust me.
dan friesen
Is that Al Franken?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Is Al Franken a former liberal?
jordan holmes
I don't think so.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know if the caller was saying that...
jordan holmes
I think he was a former liberal.
dan friesen
That's kind of what I think, too.
jordan holmes
That's what I was getting at.
dan friesen
That's not the direction I sensed Alex was going with that.
jordan holmes
No, no.
dan friesen
I think he might have had an article about Al Franken in that stack that he didn't get to also.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
dan friesen
Although I think that would be a very interesting dynamic.
Al Franken.
jordan holmes
Alex Jones?
I don't know.
And I even think I remember the book he had out about that, which was like lying...
dan friesen
Rush Limbaugh is a big fat idiot?
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's either that one or Lying Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them are one of those books.
Yeah.
And it's like, that was an extreme bullshit polemic.
You know?
Like, yeah.
dan friesen
I remember he had a book that my dad had that I really enjoyed.
It was that Why Not Me?
And it was the fictitious sort of...
Travelogue of his run for president.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
And the run never happened.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
It's just a humor book about the nonsensical goings-on.
I don't want to revisit that book, lest it not be as funny as I remember it being when I read it as a kid.
Same with Dave Barry.
jordan holmes
I don't want to revisit Dave Barry ever.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Just in case.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So yeah, I think I would like to see that interview.
If it ever...
jordan holmes
I would be happy with that.
That could happen now.
It would be real weird.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So this caller wants...
The buzzword here is I want to partake.
I want to partake in the info war.
unidentified
Hi, Alex.
This is Dave.
Alex, I'm a hair of your programmer, of your program, but I like to say I feel I can't move right here.
I'm just hearing everything.
I would like to partake in this stuff.
And I think all your hearers are the same thing.
They're hearing this all from you, and they all like to partake.
It seems like, Alex, that we need an agenda here.
We need a plan.
You're giving out all this information, but we need to start doing things.
alex jones
Tell you what, stay there.
I'll come back to you, Dave, and others.
Stay with us.
We'll be right back with the third hour.
dan friesen
Real weird to call people hearers.
All the hearers of your show.
jordan holmes
That was such a...
That creeps me out instantly.
dan friesen
Definitely.
jordan holmes
That was an instantly creepy thing to say.
dan friesen
Definitely weird.
jordan holmes
That's weird.
dan friesen
Asking Alex for advice is a dead end.
unidentified
Bad idea.
dan friesen
We know for sure dead end.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Tell more people about Infowars.
dan friesen
I would like to partake in the Infowar instead of being a hearer.
jordan holmes
Ooh, man.
That's quasi-religious speak.
dan friesen
So Alex does come back, and he does give some advice.
And pay attention to some of this advice, because it feels like he's just saying, be me.
Which is maybe not possible.
alex jones
Dave in Virginia calls in and says, you know, I feel like I'm a spectator.
I'm partaking of this.
You know, I'm hearing it.
But I'm not doing anything.
I want a plan, Dave from Virginia says.
Well, Dave, pick an issue, the Second Amendment, the open borders, the environmental land grabbing that's going on, and go out and get involved in that issue and meet like-minded people and then educate them on other issues, become a leader, put up a website, get an Access TV show.
Go to commercial radio show.
Start your own organization.
It's millions of us doing small things can move mountains together.
Many hands make light work.
Does that answer your question?
jordan holmes
No.
unidentified
Yeah, that's a good answer.
dan friesen
It's not a good answer.
jordan holmes
No, it is not a good answer.
dan friesen
From everything I can tell about this Dave character, I don't know if I'd like him on XSTV or the radio.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Hello to my hearers.
alex jones
Hear me.
jordan holmes
Hear me, all my hearers.
What is wrong with you?
dan friesen
Here's how you partake.
jordan holmes
No!
I don't want to partake of your hearing!
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that's a bit of advice that is useless to anyone except for Alex.
And even if Alex got that advice when he was younger, it would have been useless to him.
jordan holmes
Get a massive influx of cash from your dad.
Buy your way into a public access sphere.
dan friesen
Make sure that you meet a weirdo from Minnesota who sells gold.
unidentified
Yep, yep.
dan friesen
Who's desperate for somebody to be his pitch man.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Or find your own gold man.
I'm sure that there's another...
Listen.
Let's be honest.
He's not the only guy trying to bilk people with fake gold.
dan friesen
No, but it's important that your gold guy is also philosophically a complete weirdo libertarian.
That's super important.
jordan holmes
That is tougher to find.
They're still there.
dan friesen
You need to have philosophical allegiance with your gold scam guy.
So, look, some of these pieces of advice are like, yeah, maybe that's good.
You know, each one teach one kind of stuff.
Sure.
But what about having meetings?
What about getting together and organizing?
You know, like...
jordan holmes
20 years in the future, I'll tell you what, that could be used against you.
dan friesen
Well, apparently Alex isn't so into it in the past either.
unidentified
Yeah, that's a good answer.
But this stuff is coming too fast.
And I really think that we need to...
Maybe we can first come together first, and then we can make plans.
alex jones
Okay, let's say 10,000 of us try to meet and come together.
A police car pulls up, drops off a provocateur.
The provocateur walks in, starts a fistfight.
The police have riot police waiting.
They run in and break your jaws and then call you terrorists on the news.
We first have to expose in that town the fact that the government will provocateur our political meetings and expose how they've done it in the past in other cities.
You first got to educate people at the grassroots level and get a sheriff, a county commissioner elected that supports your ideals, then move on from the grassroots level.
dan friesen
So you can't have meetings.
You can't have political meetings until you have enough awareness that the man is going to jam up your political meetings.
But in order to get to the point where you can have political meetings, you first have to elect a sheriff or a county commissioner or something like that without any kind of organizing, apparently.
Can't have any meetings.
Because it's not just like a 10,000 person meeting Alex and him are talking about.
They're talking about like, I don't know, little meetings too.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, 20, 30 people get together.
Like a Bible study.
dan friesen
It would have to be 10,000.
What are you going to achieve at a meeting of 10,000 people?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I don't know, but that's kind of how Alex thinks.
It's got to be a big meeting, otherwise what's the point?
I mean, obviously what he's saying is first you need to light the groundwork for plausible deniability should anybody that you go to a meeting with cause any terrorist act.
Then you can say to them that, no, no, no, that was an agent provocateur.
Definitely not somebody carrying out the thing that we went to the meeting to do.
dan friesen
And it would be good if you have some kind of institutional support.
jordan holmes
You're going to need the violence of the state.
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Someone who's got your back.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
Okay.
Listen, if you were going to do...
He's like...
Here's how you start a terror cell.
dan friesen
It's useless.
I mean, it's just useless advice.
A good way to get a sheriff elected would be to organize and have some political action for the sheriff.
But if you're not allowed to do that until you get the sheriff elected, it seems like this is just another path towards...
Not being able to move, as the scholar said.
jordan holmes
Right.
I mean, isn't he kind of reinforcing the idea that you can change things through electoral action, thus making the need for violence, you know...
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Oh, never mind then.
dan friesen
No, he's not.
jordan holmes
I mean, you should vote for your local sheriff.
dan friesen
But that comes later.
jordan holmes
Ah, that's true.
dan friesen
Wait, no, that comes first.
jordan holmes
You gotta get the sheriff first.
dan friesen
But you need to wake up enough people to get the sheriff elected.
jordan holmes
But you can't meet.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
God damn, that's going to be tough.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we got a lot of struggles to get this one going.
dan friesen
Also, don't put up any signs for the sheriff because that could be a false flag.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Then the government, the current sheriff is going to come to your house.
dan friesen
Jam you up.
jordan holmes
Jam you up.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Makes sense.
dan friesen
Alex gets another call.
This guy is an artist.
alex jones
Let's talk to Paul.
And Paul, you're calling in from New York.
Good to hear from you.
What's going on?
unidentified
I just wanted to let you know that we're going to be releasing our fourth disc August 9th at an event called the Belief Festival here in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania.
Any of your listeners in the tri-state area that would like to come out, check it out at PokerFace.com.
alex jones
For those that don't know, you guys have a rock band that's got great music that exposes the New World Order.
So you're going to be having another event out there exposing the globalists.
What type of response are you getting from the young people?
unidentified
They're loving this stuff.
Everybody from 7 to 70. Hell yeah.
dan friesen
They love them.
So there's a band called Poker Face.
jordan holmes
Poker Face.
dan friesen
I found the band's website.
jordan holmes
Pre-Lady Gaga, right?
dan friesen
Yes.
Yes, quite a bit.
And I actually found a video of them playing at that festival that they're plugging.
And it's kind of quaint that Alex is hyping this kind of a plug on the show.
It's not a large gig or anything.
It seems like maybe...
Elevated Battle of the Bands type gig.
jordan holmes
But everybody from 7 to 70 did enjoy it.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I didn't see many shots of an audience.
jordan holmes
That's trouble.
dan friesen
It's in Bethlehem, PA.
So this caller, Paul, I know because he said his name, I know that he is the lead singer of the outfit.
He also plays guitar and keyboards.
His bio is pretty sweet on the website.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Quote, Paul is the heart, soul, songwriting, social guru that Poker Face is.
jordan holmes
Paul is the writer of this biography.
I'm going to read that sentence to you again.
dan friesen
I didn't misread this.
Paul is the heart, soul, songwriting, social guru that Poker Face is.
jordan holmes
Heart, soul?
dan friesen
Yes.
Songwriting, social guru.
No commas or anything.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Songwriting, social guru that...
Poker Face is.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
That's bad grammar.
jordan holmes
Ah, it's not great.
dan friesen
He is and always has been capable of immense insight and focus, the source of which is his reverence and respect for all things true and willingness to fight against those that are unjust.
jordan holmes
Based upon the writing of his biography, I am not trusting the writing of his songs.
dan friesen
The other people in the band have also some silly bios, but we're not gonna drag them into this.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's nice.
They didn't call in.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
It's not their fault.
dan friesen
But Alex apparently is familiar with them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I thought he...
He was, like, just a random dude trying to get his band's name out there on air, just like, ha-ha, surprise, I called in.
dan friesen
He seemed very casual about the way he made this announcement.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Yeah, there was some familiarity between them.
And so Alex wants to know, hey, man.
jordan holmes
Tell me about your band.
dan friesen
No.
How are you feeling about the world?
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Well, that's exciting.
What do you think about all the developments?
unidentified
In the world today, I think Scarism is right on target with the 1962 report called the Iron Mountain Report.
I think Mr. Kissinger had a little hand in that one.
Yeah, I think scarism is everything they needed it to be to bring a police state here to America.
dan friesen
Scarism.
jordan holmes
Well, I'm hearing that.
I am a hearer of his scarism.
dan friesen
So it's pretty impressive how this rock and roll caller is asked about what he thinks about the state of the world, and he quickly cites the report from Iron Mountain, which is a fake document.
It was a satirical piece written by a guy named Leonard Lewin, meant to skewer how think tanks operate, and imagined a secret group who were tasked with figuring out what the downsides of a state of peace would be for the United States.
Their ultimate conclusion was that peace is not good for the continuance of our system, particularly our economy, and thus it's not a desirable state to pursue.
That's the document.
It's fake.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
The Liberty Lobby, run by racist Nazi Willis Cardo, published the text pretending that it was real in a government document, and in that case, you know, you'd be able to publish it, but unfortunately, it's owned by somebody, so they got sued by Lewin and ultimately settled the case out of court.
Conspiracy dum-dums like this rock and roll caller, Alex, and even Bill Cooper cling to the idea that the text is real because it matches their worldview really well.
Right.
So that kind of means it must be true and not a piece of satirical skewering of think tank culture.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
And if you believe it's real, have I got an Irish baby for you to eat?
dan friesen
Hey.
What about a neighbor?
jordan holmes
Hey!
dan friesen
They're delicious.
jordan holmes
Steal their businesses, too.
dan friesen
Alex has been getting these calls, and they're all pretty positive Infowars fans.
Sure.
I think he wants to spice things up a little bit, so he essentially begs people who disagree to call in.
alex jones
But I do want to leave a line or two open for anybody that disagrees with us.
Because here we are going out on the AM and FM dial from Austin, Texas to Denver, Colorado to Albuquerque, New Mexico to Rochester, New York to Pensacola, Florida.
If you disagree with me or anything I'm saying, go ahead, hit me with your best shot.
1-800-259-9231 This does not turn into anything.
dan friesen
Nobody who disagrees calls in.
jordan holmes
Damn it.
That would have been more fun.
dan friesen
But, I mean, how seldom is that going to happen?
jordan holmes
Almost never.
dan friesen
Who's listening that disagrees with Alex in 2003 who was motivated enough to call?
I mean, we had that Canadian guy.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
And that was, he disagreed in the wrong way.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You have to be, yeah, if you disagree with Alex in a more extreme position, you're already motivated enough to get on a phone with Alex.
dan friesen
Sure, you're probably, like, the disagreements that he's likely to get are not going to be thoughtful criticisms.
They're going to be like, why don't you support the war?
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
That kind of stuff.
And that's, obviously you'd want to bait that into coming at you.
jordan holmes
And the people who would ideologically disagree with him are most likely listening for entertainment value to laugh at the lunatic.
dan friesen
Right, and you wouldn't want to subject yourself to arguing with him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're not going to call in and be like, No, I think the odds are pretty low.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So another caller wants to talk a little bit more about this idea of organizing and how Alex seems to be pretty opposed to the idea.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so Alex gets basically into a state of like, okay, well, why don't you go find like-minded people?
And of course, we know where this road leads.
unidentified
Is there any way, because your audience is the most informative...
They seem to be the smartest on the dial.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
unidentified
How can we have cellular areas where people who listen to you and agree with you can get together and start as a base to do things locally?
alex jones
Well, look, you're going to find like-minded people who already see a lot of what's happening, it's not the whole picture, in gun organizations, in land rights organizations.
You guys could call the local radio stations that carry the show, and you could show up at radio station meetings that I know that Dr. Wolf, the owner of the Sunshine Network, has.
You could go to his church.
You could meet like-minded people there.
I mean, it's really pretty simple to do.
You could start websites.
There's a lot of different things you can do to meet like-minded people.
I mean, this is a shameless plug, but it's true.
If you buy one of my tyranny response t-shirts that are navy blue with the yellow firefighter-style tyranny response team, looks like a law enforcement shirt, and you walk down the street with that, you're going to meet like-minded people.
They're going to know what the tyranny response team is.
You wear my shirt that has a picture of Hitler, Stalin, and Mao on it.
unidentified
I have it.
alex jones
And it says mass murderers agree gun control works, politicians love disarmed peasants.
You're going to meet like-minded people wearing that shirt.
So there are ways to meet like-minded people.
dan friesen
But are we talking about organizing or making friends?
What is exactly the goal here?
Because if you're going to a gun rights group, I assume that you're just going to be engaging in gun rights activism.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you'd be part of the gun rights group.
dan friesen
Right.
You could probably meet some people who have other fringy ideas there, I would assume.
jordan holmes
Is he saying siphon people away from the gun group for your own nefarious purposes?
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, what you want to do is you want to get a 10 to 15...
Sell people, you know, you don't know each other's names and you don't really have any direct communication.
Nothing on phones.
Nothing on phones!
dan friesen
Now, what if a narc is wearing a InfoWars shirt?
jordan holmes
Ooh, that can't be...
dan friesen
Pretends to be a like-minded person.
jordan holmes
No, not possible.
Can't do it.
dan friesen
He seems to have...
alex jones
I don't know.
dan friesen
It's all just sales.
jordan holmes
The InfoWars audience is so smart and they're so informed.
There's no way they would allow a...
I mean, what would you even call it?
A provocateur to get into their ranks?
Because they're so aware of them!
dan friesen
They don't sell to provocateurs.
unidentified
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
Those don't sell those shirts.
jordan holmes
You have to click the no.
dan friesen
So this caller does have that shirt, and I don't think it's worked.
unidentified
I do have the shirt, and I do have your videos, but it does get to the point where you try to educate your small group of friends and people that you care about.
But then it just gets to a point where, you know, sometimes they look at you with a glaze.
alex jones
A lot of times family doesn't respect themselves, they don't respect you, and they think you're trying to put them down by warning them.
unidentified
No question.
alex jones
Or friends you've known all your life.
I mean, Jesus Christ talked about, you know, people in his own town wouldn't listen to him.
dan friesen
That's pretty abusive.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep.
dan friesen
Hey, your family, the people who care about you as a person recognize that you're going down a weird path and they aren't going to follow you down there.
You know, they're just weak.
jordan holmes
You know what I would do?
dan friesen
They hate themselves, so they don't respect you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
For your mental health, I think you should isolate yourself from them.
That way, they'll all be together with their social group that agrees with each other.
dan friesen
It's just like Christ did.
jordan holmes
And then you'll be alone.
By yourself, only listening to me.
dan friesen
But if you have those shirts that I've already sold you, you gotta buy more.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, sure, you did already buy the shirt, and it didn't help.
dan friesen
And then there's this guy who runs a radio station.
You should go to his church.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, that makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
This is a perfect recipe.
jordan holmes
Go harass people at church.
dan friesen
Terrible, terrible...
Suggestions.
jordan holmes
Yeah, just real awful all the way around.
Just start to finish.
dan friesen
So Alex gets another caller, and I think that guy who is the hearer's guy, he had a weird energy.
But this guy has also an energy that I found weirder.
alex jones
Brian, go ahead.
unidentified
Calling up here from Minnesota.
First time caller.
I've been listening for a couple years now.
And I have a few things I want to touch on real quick.
I'm a history major up here at a state college.
And I learned something really interesting the other day.
Do you happen to know what the number one cash crop in Liberia is?
alex jones
Well, I know that mineral-wise, it's in this order, diamonds, gold, oil.
But when you say cash crop, what is it, opium?
unidentified
It's rubber trees.
alex jones
I know they grow a little bit of opium in Africa, but not much.
It's mainly in Central Asia and Far East and in Latin America.
Rubber trees, oh yeah.
dan friesen
Liberia had not come up at all on this show up to this point.
There is a civil war happening in Liberia, so there is reason to talk about it, but Alex has not up to this point, so it came quite out of left field for this caller to be like, hey, what's the number one cash crop in Liberia?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I do get...
Riddler vibes from him.
alex jones
Yes.
jordan holmes
Very much like, I don't know if he's not InfoWars evil, but he's some kind of evil.
dan friesen
He's chaotic.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex's claims about minerals in Liberia that has nothing to do with anything, because that's not what the caller was asking about.
And on top of that, it's wrong.
Alex is just making that up.
By far, the mineral with the highest production and exportation from Liberia is iron ore.
There's also gold mines and diamond mines, but Liberia doesn't have a developed oil infrastructure.
at all.
They import almost all of their oil.
Sure.
unidentified
Good on Alex, though, to catch his mistake about the opium.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
That would have been embarrassing.
jordan holmes
It would have made me feel real stupid.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
I think the oil is probably stupid.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
True.
unidentified
I think they actually did have a certain amount of promise, or there was some expectation and hope that they had some oil exploration that was optimistic, but it didn't pan out.
dan friesen
That might have been this time frame.
jordan holmes
That's such a Riddler thing to do.
dan friesen
There's some information that apparently you can't find on AOL.
unidentified
And another thing, I am a subscriber to AOL, which I should have to stop immediately, but I always get a kick out of their headlines.
I think it was three days ago they had a thing, a big article on whether they were going to bring the draft back.
And then today I turned it on and they had their headline, I believe it's there, any AOL members can look at it, of how they have sent an undisclosed number of American troops to the seas around Liberia right now.
But they won't tell us how many.
alex jones
Well, it's 4,800.
unidentified
4,800.
alex jones
Yeah, maybe AOL won't tell you, but it's official in British papers.
dan friesen
So a New York Times article said 2,300 troops were sent.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Alex is talking about a UK article, though, so that's not the Times, that's for sure.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I found a Guardian article from an early July that said Bush was planning to send several hundred troops, between 500 and 1,000, so that's not the source Alex is citing.
I think that Alex just made up that number and then attributed it to a meaninglessly vague source.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think that's...
Probably what we're seeing here.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
4,800 seems like a round enough number that you could pull it, but also it's not 5,000, so you're not, like, guesstimating.
You're like, oh, 4,800.
That sounds like you know exactly what you're talking about.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's trustworthy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's trustworthy enough.
dan friesen
I don't know where it's coming from.
The numbers that I found were different.
So, there's a draft, man.
It's coming.
And it has not come.
But apparently it was already happening in 2003 for a couple of professions.
jordan holmes
No shit.
alex jones
Let me break this down for you with the draft.
They already are reinstating it for engineers and medical workers.
unidentified
I see.
alex jones
That was in the Houston Chronicle two days ago.
No, you do not see.
jordan holmes
Do not say you see.
alex jones
Also, they have two versions of a universal draft for men and women, but that's only 18 to 26. If you're older, you have to serve, and it says this.
jordan holmes
Where?
alex jones
Anti-terror reporting squads, tips, tattletale groups.
They're even going to give them, and I'm not kidding, sir, a gray uniform with an ID badge.
unidentified
Well, that's just insane.
alex jones
Yes, it is.
Right out of the textbooks, and when they instate it, you're going to have all the people that ran the neighborhood associations, they're going to be in their little citizen corps.
And they already have it for kids in high school, and quote, you'll have to volunteer, see?
dan friesen
See?
Yeah, none of this happened.
jordan holmes
I'm telling you right now, if you think, well, that sounds insane, go with your gut, man.
Go with your gut!
That sounds insane!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So it is!
dan friesen
I mean, look, you gotta give it up to Alex for being just, like, so right.
unidentified
All the time.
dan friesen
You listen to his show from the past, and it's like, oh my god, is this guy a fucking prophet?
jordan holmes
The last time an old person wearing a gray outfit and a badge harassed me.
dan friesen
Snitch squads of old people.
jordan holmes
Snitched on me.
I think I was wearing a diaper, and I had pooped.
And that was a couple years ago.
dan friesen
He got snitched on.
So you got one last clip, and it's this guy just like...
This caller is afraid of what Alex is talking about with the draft, because he's of the age that he could get drafted.
He's an undergrad in history.
And so Alex is just trying to make him afraid, and then it dips into good old-fashioned racism.
unidentified
The choice that people in the draft age have is either you go and become a slave, or you don't go and you become a slave.
Well, actually, we're all debt slaves already anyway, but...
I mean, what do you do?
alex jones
Well, you better fight it.
Now, what they're doing is, guess who's going to manage the new Army and Navy?
Who's that?
unidentified
United Nations?
alex jones
Well, I read the articles two days ago.
We posted them.
It said, quote, black uniformed, black mask, Dine Corps, and other mercenaries that are paid $200,000 a year.
unidentified
Oh, great.
alex jones
So, yeah, and they're also, according to the Washington Times, hiring illegal aliens with criminal...
Records to join the military, just like Stalin did.
unidentified
I've seen that.
dan friesen
Yeah, you've seen that.
Be scared.
Be scared.
Illegal immigrants are coming in, and they're going to be in these new army squads that are going to keep the white Christian patriots down.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And then there's going to be old people snitching on everybody.
Oh, my God, what terror.
Everyone's going to be drafted.
jordan holmes
Man, that is the worst Riddler I have seen in a long time.
He didn't even give any riddles and he just agreed with shit.
That's terrible.
dan friesen
He just kind of agreed with Alex's weird fear porn narrative.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah, that makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
Yeah, and also with these fears of mercenaries, it's strange that Alex's security is a guy from Blackwater now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I wouldn't have...
Gone with mercenaries.
dan friesen
Well, he's on the right side of that stuff in 2003.
jordan holmes
In 2003?
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's quite against these private armies.
jordan holmes
Right!
No, well, I mean, they're bad.
They're bad.
dan friesen
It's bad.
That didn't stick.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
So, yeah, this 2003 excursion is a little bit...
I don't know, a little soft.
jordan holmes
Uneven?
dan friesen
Yeah, definitely uneven.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it feels like we were a little all over the place on that episode.
dan friesen
Boy, I'll tell you what, I think the reason is because it is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we went to Liberia for no...
Real reason.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
It had not come up earlier in the episode.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
The thing, I think, is it's Friday, and Alex maybe wants to go home.
jordan holmes
Kind of get out of there.
It's been a long day at the office.
dan friesen
Yeah, I got Saturday off.
jordan holmes
I mean, Liberia, there's probably some gold there.
dan friesen
I mean, we're just going to take some nonsense calls.
I'm going to yell about Michael Savage ruining the California gubernatorial race on behalf of...
The globalists, I guess?
jordan holmes
Davis?
I don't know.
dan friesen
I don't either.
But I'm very excited to see where this goes, because Michael Savage isn't going to run.
There isn't a draft that's going to be initiated.
Gray Davis isn't going to win.
alex jones
Nope.
dan friesen
There's going to be chaos in that race.
jordan holmes
North Korea did nuke us.
dan friesen
Alex is going to have to wrestle with the fact that they didn't.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The pictures of Saddam's...
It's not going to come out that they're fake.
unidentified
100% real.
jordan holmes
100% real pictures.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's a lot of bad stuff going on.
And Alex has still not dealt with debathification.
unidentified
That's right!
dan friesen
In any meaningful way.
unidentified
That's right!
jordan holmes
He still hasn't even bothered with it.
I completely forgot that was it.
dan friesen
He stopped talking about the bath party being put back in charge.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
Of course he did.
dan friesen
He's pretended that wasn't his thing.
He hasn't talked about the actual reality.
jordan holmes
No.
And he still can't pull off a metaphor.
Not to save his life.
dan friesen
But his character work.
jordan holmes
Character work is top notch.
Top notch.
That cop who wants to steal his neighbor's business.
That's the shit.
dan friesen
And needs help.
jordan holmes
And needs help.
dan friesen
I don't know what that other character is going to be doing.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, we'll be back.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
With another episode.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight and I go to bed, Jordan.
unidentified
Yep.
alex jones
We'll be back.
dan friesen
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
unidentified
I'm...
The Doctor of Love.
dan friesen
Not good.
jordan holmes
Nope.
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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