#661: March 17, 2022
Today, Dan and Jordan celebrate Alex's return from his little breaky. In this installment, Harrison Smith loves St. Patrick's Day, Alex falls victim to weaponized weed, and many pro-Putin talking points fly freely. Citations
March 21, 2022 - Knowledge Fight
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and George. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| I need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
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Andy in Kansas. | |
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding us. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your world. | ||
|
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Knowledge fight. | |
| Knowledgefight.com. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledgefight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan, quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today? | ||
| My bright spot today, Jordan, is... | ||
| You go first. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| My bright spot today is actually I successfully finished Forbidden West. | ||
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Wow. | |
| I've done it. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yeah, I'm very proud of myself. | ||
| Congratulations. | ||
| I realized way too late that the end game was a lot closer than I thought. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| Because I had done so much other stuff, I was roughly level all of them. | ||
| You can't go higher than 50. Sure. | ||
| And so then I barreled towards the end of the game so fast. | ||
| It's one of those things that I do that's very annoying, is I get so distracted for the first 85% of the game. | ||
| Right, right, by all the side missions. | ||
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Totally. | |
| And then the last 5% is a formality. | ||
| A formality, Dan! | ||
| Yeah, I have put the game to the side for a little bit so it can retain some of its wonders. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| I realized that I was kind of getting to a point where I was a little burned out because I was doing exactly what you did with the side quests and stuff. | ||
| And yeah, so I'll get back to it, but congratulations on finishing it up. | ||
| If you haven't gotten to a certain place, I won't spoil it. | ||
| I have probably, maybe not, I don't know. | ||
| Can you fly? | ||
| In a manner? | ||
| Well, there's a spoiler. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Well, great. | ||
| Spoilers, we broke our own rule. | ||
| My bright spot is going to be unsatisfying in many ways, but I have some content for the podcast that I'm working on that I'm pretty excited about. | ||
| So I have a bright spot of some little things. | ||
| A little teaser that I might be able to. | ||
| Yeah, so there you go. | ||
| Vague teaser. | ||
| Vague teaser is your bright spot. | ||
| So Jordan, today we are enjoying... | ||
| Alex Jones coming back from his vacation. | ||
| Oh, he took a little break. | ||
| Is he better today? | ||
| Well, I mean, we haven't played the drop yet. | ||
| Oh, that's a good point. | ||
| I can't reveal. | ||
| You can't reveal that, yeah. | ||
| No, but this is March 17th, 2022. | ||
| St. Patrick's Day, baby. | ||
| Alex is back. | ||
| We have not missed him that much. | ||
| His presence has been, absence of his presence has been felt. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And as much as the dorks have been running the house, and daddy's got to come in and be angry about stuff. | ||
| I assume metaphorically, as he comes back, he will be removing all of the snakes from the Infowars office. | ||
| Some of them might just get laid off. | ||
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Some of the snakes just, you know, might. | |
| There might be payroll issues with the snakes. | ||
| That's what people forget about St. Patrick. | ||
| He just got rid of some of the snakes, and they were like, oh, come on, man, you're downsizing? | ||
| Uh-oh, I better go slither around with Glenn Beck. | ||
| I better go to the Blaze. | ||
| They're very welcoming. | ||
| So we'll get down to business on this episode here, Jordan, but let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| So first, Demon Whiskey Nick, thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, I listened to six hours worth of Dan and Jordan across two podcasts on March 4th. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Guessing that was behind the bastards related. | ||
| Yep, I would imagine so. | ||
| Next, fuck! | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Love it. | ||
| Straightforward, to the point. | ||
| Happy, good work, fuck. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Next, no little breaky for the wicked. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Next, Deadman in the message said, hey, play Elden Ring, you cowards. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Or something like that. | ||
| And I wanted to say, I did try. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Not for me. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But you are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
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Thank you! | |
| And we got a couple of technocrats here in the mix, Jordan. | ||
| So first, I introduce my brother to Knowledge Fight, and all he gets is this lousy shout-out. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| And Lindy, the best spouse mouse. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| I have risen above my enemies. | ||
| I might quit tomorrow, actually. | ||
| I'm just gonna take a little breaky now. | ||
| A little breaky for me. | ||
| And then we're going to come back, and I'm going to start the show over. | ||
| But I'm the devil! | ||
| I've got to be taken off the air! | ||
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Fuck you! | |
| Fuck you! | ||
| I've got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your New World Order, and fuck the horse you rode in on, and all your shit! | ||
| Maybe today should be my last broadcast. | ||
| Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. | ||
| Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow, and you never see me again. | ||
| That's really what I want to do. | ||
| I never want to come back here again. | ||
| I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. | ||
| I'll be better tomorrow. | ||
| He's not. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| I had to wait. | ||
| I was guessing. | ||
| Not having a great day. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Having a pretty bad day. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| He's broke. | ||
| He's pissed off. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, here's an out-of-context drop before we get into this episode. | ||
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Okay. | |
| No, I'm not trying to pile on the U.S. government, because it's obviously, though, like an out-of-control, corrupt, anti-American force, but... | ||
| Okay, well... | ||
| Listen, nobody wants you to pile on the United States. | ||
| Not after that point. | ||
| No, of course. | ||
| Once we already have established that it is a corrupt, anti-American force, the American government, then no need to pile on. | ||
| Yeah, you don't need to beat a dead horse. | ||
| Certainly not. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, Alex is not there when the show starts. | ||
| This is becoming a little bit of the normal thing where the show starts, and Harrison Smith is explaining that Alex will be there eventually. | ||
| I'm Harrison Smith, sitting in momentarily for Alex Jones. | ||
| He is in the building. | ||
| He's taking care of some legal stuff right now, but he will be taking over just as soon as possible. | ||
| But for now, let me give you a little outlook as to... | ||
| How close we are to nuclear annihilation. | ||
| God, he sucks at this. | ||
| How close to the precipice we are before taking that plunge off the cliff that will destroy all of humanity. | ||
| It's not looking good, folks. | ||
| Before I do that, let me tell you, happy St. Patrick's Day, everybody. | ||
| Hope you're all doing well. | ||
| Hope you're wearing green. | ||
| If not, I hope you get pinched, okay? | ||
| Now's the time for celebrating the glorious work of one of the most powerful... | ||
| Evangelist that Christianity ever saw. | ||
| And it's worth taking a quick moment to tell you the story of St. Patrick. | ||
| This is a real strange path of thoughts for Harrison to begin the show with. | ||
| Okay, we're all gonna die! | ||
| But first, let's just, look, enjoy the silver lining. | ||
| Have a green beer. | ||
| Have a green beer! | ||
| So I don't know if I would call St. Patrick one of the most powerful evangelists in the history of the Christian church. | ||
| If you're talking about who's at the top of that list, without a doubt, it's Paul. | ||
| No doubt. | ||
| About half of the New Testament is attributed to him, and he was critically important in terms of establishing the earliest churches in places like Ephesus and Corinth, and his letters to these churches that appear in the Bible, his books in the Bible. | ||
| They establish a lot of church doctrine. | ||
| Totally. | ||
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Outside of Jesus, it's not really fair to compare anyone to Paul in terms of their importance in the spread of Christianity. | |
| So, you know, looking down a little bit further on the ladder, there are some major figures in terms of early evangelism. | ||
| Naturally. | ||
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You could make an argument that people like Constantine did wonders for the spread of Christianity since he converted in 312 CE while the emperor of Rome, and that led to the Edict of Milan in 313 that codified into law religion. | |
| Sure. | ||
| Massively spread the religion. | ||
| Well, if you're not going to be murdered for it, it's a lot easier to be a part of it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And then there's the conquesting emperors who spread the language across the ancient world. | ||
| You know, like Alexander the Great spreading Greek to all kinds of distant lands allowed for the transmission of information among cultures. | ||
| That's certainly somebody who, well, not necessarily, you would say, an evangelist. | ||
| Had a dramatic effect. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now, what one could argue, though, is that the most influential members of the church are the ones with the highest body count. | ||
| So then you have to rejigger the whole thing now, don't you? | ||
| I mean, Paul's got, like, six, max. | ||
| You don't know what Paul was up to. | ||
| I don't know what Paul was up to before, that's true. | ||
| He had some issues. | ||
| He's a loan shark. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| We need a gritty Paul video game. | ||
| Maybe you're done with Horizon. | ||
| Yeah, we'll call it Road to Damascus. | ||
| Something along those lines. | ||
| Look, I don't think that anyone would argue that St. Patrick is one of the most powerful evangelists in the history of Christianity. | ||
| At best, you could claim that he founded the Christian Church in Ireland, but even that claim is far from solid. | ||
| There's a lot of uncertainty about the historical record as it relates to Patrick, and many believe that a lot of the claims made about his relevance in the Irish Church are conflated with Palladius, the first bishop of the Catholic Church. | ||
| Who was sent to Ireland. | ||
| The point here is that the claim that Harrison is making is absurd, but I'm excited to see how he backs this up. | ||
| I'm a little interested. | ||
| Also, I think a lot of people in Ireland looking back on it would say that the introduction of the Christian religion to Ireland might have wound up going wrong later on. | ||
| Maybe there's some issues with implementation. | ||
| Maybe it could have been done better. | ||
| Well, let's let Harrison take the wheel and see what he's got. | ||
| Worth taking a quick moment to tell you the story. | ||
| of St. Patrick, because it's a great source of inspiration for what we're doing here in the Infowar. | ||
| St. Patrick was from Britain. | ||
| He was part of a Romanized British family. | ||
| His father was a deacon in the church, but as a young man, he was captured and taken to Ireland, which was at the time completely pagan, where he was kept as a slave, and he was abused as a slave, and he lived a life as a slave, until he got a vision from God that told him... | ||
| Your boat's here. | ||
| Your ride is waiting. | ||
| It's time for you to escape. | ||
| And trusting his vision, he went to the coast and found a ship waiting there. | ||
| It took him to England where, again, his troubles were not over. | ||
| He was captured multiple times. | ||
| He eventually made it back to his family. | ||
| And now think about this. | ||
| Put yourself in the mindset of a freed slave who's escaped bondage in Ireland, has escaped the pagans. | ||
| You've made it out. | ||
| You live in a comfortable life with your family now. | ||
| What would compel somebody to give up that life? | ||
| Go back into the land where he was enslaved, not to extract retribution, not to enact some revenge fantasy on the people who abused him, but to gift those people with the truth, to tell them the gospel, to convert them to Christianity, to perform miracles for them, and to better their life. | ||
| Well, St. Patrick's was that man. | ||
| Not really, really trying to be, like, talking about yourself here a little bit. | ||
| I mean, well, I find it very interesting that we can definitely identify with former white slaves who come back to the land that they were enslaved in and then kicked out of in order to do good. | ||
| You know, I mean, Reconstruction Era South wasn't about black people just fucking straight up murdering anybody. | ||
| Nope, nope, but no, this is fine. | ||
| Fine, because St. Patrick's white slave. | ||
| It is an interesting disconnect. | ||
| But a lot of that story that Harrison is telling is true, which is a strange thing on Infowars, because usually people bring, I mean Alex, bring things up and he has no idea what he's talking about. | ||
| But at least according to whatever sources we do have available, a lot of that story of St. Patrick is like... | ||
| That's the record, but you can decide for yourself how reliable any of those sources are. | ||
| St. Patrick was said to have been captured by pagans and taken to Ireland and escaped and then eventually decided to become a missionary. | ||
| Also, Patrick supposedly had another vision that called him to come back to Ireland, so that's why he did it, as opposed to just being like, hey, I think I'm going to go back and be a missionary. | ||
| I'm such a good dude. | ||
| He had another vision. | ||
| So whoever's giving these visions is a little wishy-washy about where he should be. | ||
| Go get on that boat. | ||
| Go back to Ireland. | ||
| You know, you change plans. | ||
| It happens. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| I've been there. | ||
| So one problem is that Patrick didn't perform miracles and actually isn't formally a saint. | ||
| He's never been canonized, and the whole thing about running the snakes off, that's not true. | ||
| That's nonsense. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| None of this matters, though, because Infowars and everyone associated with it believes in lore as reality. | ||
| So if there's compelling folktales about someone, that might as well be religious doctrine. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Now there is one important caveat, though, and that is that the Eastern Orthodox Church does venerate Patrick as a saint in equal standing. | ||
| With the Apostles. | ||
| But I really don't think that Infowars is an Eastern Orthodox operation. | ||
| Alex espouses some theological beliefs that are at odds with that tradition, so it just seems hard to believe that they're Eastern Orthodox. | ||
| I mean, Paul Bunyan is also venerated alongside the saints in Infowars, so it's like American lore is fine, too. | ||
| True, true. | ||
| Put it all in the church! | ||
| Colonel Travis. | ||
| Absolutely! | ||
| So I will say this with a fair amount of certainty. | ||
| You're not going to find anybody who takes the study of religion, like just religious studies, seriously. | ||
| That would say St. Patrick is a major evangelical figure. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| Not part of real religious history. | ||
| How many other of them have their own holiday that is entirely about their real life and events that happened 100% to them? | ||
| It's a bizarre notion for Harrison to be spreading, but what's fun about this is it's just a way for Harrison to use this story about St. Patrick to really talk about himself and Alex. | ||
| They are like St. Patrick in that they've seen the horrors of Ireland, the globalists metaphorically, and though they could have a nice life elsewhere. | ||
| to free people still in bondage. | ||
| Right. | ||
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It's nonsense, but I'm sure it feels better than dealing with the reality that you work for a malicious narcissist liar whose only real impact on the world is increasing the suffering of vulnerable people. | |
| Which is not like the story of St. Patrick. | ||
| Actually, in many ways, it is like the story of St. Patrick. | ||
| You bring religion to Ireland, and then it fights for the next thousand goddamn years. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Bring bullshit to America? | ||
| No, it all makes perfect sense. | ||
| So, Harrison's got to talk continuously about St. Patrick. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Well, St. Patrick was that man, and his writings have had unbelievable positive effects the world over. | ||
| And he almost single-handedly converted the entire country of Ireland to Christianity. | ||
| That's an info-war here, folks. | ||
| That's a single man with nothing but the words that he uses and the truth that he's expressing, changing the destiny of an entire nation and in a way the entire world. | ||
| It's a man who is freed from bondage and yet doesn't hate those who enslaved him, but did help to bring about... | ||
| Well, this is very not true. | ||
| St. Patrick absolutely did not convert all or even most of Ireland. | ||
| For one thing, Christianity in Ireland predated his arrival, and the historical record is full of a bunch of other influences who likely had much larger effects on the history of the early church there. | ||
| There were people who created a lot of, like, really isolated monasteries. | ||
| And because of their isolations, many of them were able to survive much better in trying times, like the Dark Ages and such. | ||
| And that became something that was heavily influential in the development of the church in Ireland. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| And, once again... | ||
| Several kings had a pretty high body count. | ||
| Look, to quote myself, be that as it may. | ||
| I'm sorry, I'm just saying. | ||
| Oh, you got an extra grind here, I understand. | ||
| Look, the point for me is that these guys have such a... | ||
| Like, a focus on the individual strongman theory of history. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| It has to be one person who's also an info warrior. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| Basically, the model of an info warrior. | ||
| You alone are able to change everything. | ||
| And, you know, sure. | ||
| Some people, through circumstance and hard work and luck, some people are able to make an outsized impact in the world. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That's not necessarily how everything works. | ||
| Well, I mean, you know, it is the interplay of seven billion different things all happening simultaneously that even if you are the person with the luck to actually express the idea. | ||
| That's why I'm saying circumstances and luck. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| There's like a million different things. | ||
| So anyway, St. Patrick, great. | ||
| There's someone else in the church, though, who's not so great. | ||
| Bruce Willis. | ||
| The Pope. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| And somebody needs to point this stuff out. | ||
| Somebody needs to celebrate. | ||
| What the church is supposed to be teaching? | ||
| Because I'll tell you, somebody who's not doing that, a little man named Pope Francis. | ||
| The story can be found at Infowars.com. | ||
| Pope Francis warns, final catastrophe could extinguish human race. | ||
| I suggest Pope Francis ask himself a question. | ||
| Is that what the Bible says? | ||
| That's not really what the Bible says, is it? | ||
| No, the Bible actually promises to avoid this type of fate. | ||
| What? | ||
| Maybe he's not so worried about putting forward Christianity as he is about putting forward the Great Reset, New World Order control paradigm that he seems so eager to participate in. | ||
| Pope Francis warns that the escalation of the conflict in Ukraine could lead to a final catastrophe that would extinguish the human race. | ||
| Speaking during his weekly address, the Pope said humanity would have to start from scratch in the event of a thermonuclear war, saying, quote, Our imagination appears increasingly concentrated on the representation of a final catastrophe that will extinguish us. | ||
| And whether it's climate change or the death of democracy or the conflict in Ukraine, everything in the mainstream media has to be portrayed as an existential crisis because it's not about presenting you with the facts and the truth of the situation so you can come to an informed decision into how you want your political representatives to behave and face the challenges that we're up against. | ||
| They have to force you into an emotional... | ||
| Do or die. | ||
| This is it. | ||
| The walls are crumbling down panic mode. | ||
| So you override your logic center and you're willing to do things and willing to allow things that you would never be willing to do or allow in a more stable state of mind. | ||
| So, of course, everything has to be a total catastrophe. | ||
| That clip is wild. | ||
| Wow! | ||
| So that starts with Harrison being upset that the Pope isn't playing into his end-time fantasies, and then I guess that Harrison is mad that the Pope is saying that the war in Ukraine could escalate to a situation where the continuity of a modern civilization is at risk. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But isn't that what Alex has been saying for weeks? | ||
| Yeah, every day. | ||
| Harrison literally started the show talking about how we're facing nuclear annihilation before getting distracted with his St. Patrick riff. | ||
| So you see, when the Pope says that the times are tense and cooler heads should prevail, that's an unchristian attempt to keep everyone in the great reset... | ||
| New World Order fear paradigm. | ||
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Obviously. | |
| But when Alex and Harrison say that we're one inch away from nuclear annihilation, well, that's just them being super cool, more Christian than the Pope, and absolutely not trying to keep the audience in a state of crippling fear. | ||
| Duh! | ||
| This makes sense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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It's clips like this that just make it too clear that these guys know what they're doing. | |
| They're able to very accurately describe what their entire business model is when they're Yep. | ||
| Harrison's boring as shit, but also he makes it too clear that there's an intellectual understanding within InfoWars that what they're doing is manipulative and abusive. | ||
| If you're doing the InfoWars game, you're supposed to not be aware of that psychology at all. | ||
| Or at very least, don't talk about it. | ||
| This dude is a fucking liability for Alex, and I would fire his ass immediately if I were Alex. | ||
| Like, this is not good. | ||
| You can't be talking like this. | ||
| Yeah, and here's the thing. | ||
| He's not gonna sell it for you, man. | ||
| I don't hear Alex in this. | ||
| I don't hear somebody trying to be Alex in this. | ||
| I hear a child that needs to be like... | ||
| Put in a timeout. | ||
| Like, hey, you need to stop this. | ||
| Go sit in the corner. | ||
| Like, that's what I'm hearing, not a man. | ||
| Well, one of the things that I think is kind of interesting is that, you know, Owen is more or less doing an Alex impression. | ||
| And I think he wants to largely become like Alex, more like Alex. | ||
| Harrison has his own thing, which is obviously, like I've said, boring. | ||
| But I think it's also a lot more... | ||
| Crypto-neo-Nazi than he lets on, perhaps. | ||
| He has much more of a close association with people like Nick Fuentes and the Groypers and the America First folks. | ||
| I was just thinking that he is a much more subdued, less bombastic Nick Fuentes, in terms of he's not willing to push it. | ||
| He's not willing to push those boundaries. | ||
| And I think he does a little bit on his own show, but no one's listening. | ||
| Speak freely. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| You've got 123 views, though you'll be fine. | ||
| Oh yeah, people are knocking down your door to syndicate the American Journal on their radio stations, I'm sure. | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| Look, dude, half an hour goes by and... | ||
| Welcome back, folks. | ||
| This is The Alex Jones Show. | ||
| I'm Harrison Smith, sitting in for Alex Jones, who will be joining us momentarily. | ||
| We'll be joining you. | ||
| I'll be with you, sitting and watching Alex Jones in just a few minutes. | ||
| No need to worry about that. | ||
| I'm worried. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, I feel like there's too much of an awareness that this is a bad outcome for listeners. | ||
| Like, he has to reassure people, like, I promise Alex is coming. | ||
| I am almost out of your lives for good again. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If people wanted to listen to me, they could choose to listen to my show, and they don't. | ||
| No. | ||
| So, Alex is coming. | ||
| Don't worry. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, 47 minutes in, Alex shows up. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, we are playing the game right now. | ||
| We are caught in the jaws of what could easily become the end of civilization, perhaps all life on Earth. | ||
| Like the Pope said. | ||
| We know it. | ||
| Alex Jones here back in the cockpit today. | ||
| It's so weird that Harrison is right there in the studio and he's not, like, offended by his boss, Alex Jones, saying that we're playing a game that might result in the end of life on Earth. | ||
| When the Pope said something like that, he was contradicting the Bible and trying to keep people in the great reset New World Order fear state so you'd think that Harrison would have some harsh words for Alex. | ||
| So, so weird that he doesn't barge into the studio and hold Alex's feet to the fire about how he could possibly believe that life on Earth, it could be the end of life on Earth, and it could even be possible because the Bible says that's not going to happen. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Almost like he was just pretending to be mad at the Pope about that, and what he's actually mad at the Pope about is that he's not enough of a bigot and he cares about climate change. | ||
| I can't imagine listening to the first half hour to an hour of this show and not thinking these guys are complete jokes. | ||
| Like, this is so internally contradictory. | ||
| It hurts. | ||
| It really hurts. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't think that they are doing a very good job. | ||
| No, but that's what happens when you throw Harrison into the mix. | ||
| Bad work happens. | ||
| Stick with St. Patrick. | ||
| You're better off there. | ||
| Don't go to the Pope. | ||
| You don't have anything on the Pope. | ||
| Now, I need to talk to y 'all about the most important route. | ||
| Okay, Harrison. | ||
| Somebody told me they peed on it after I kissed it one time when I was in Ireland. | ||
| Actually, that's more interesting. | ||
| Alex didn't go to Ireland for his trip, his little breaky. | ||
| Would have been nice. | ||
| He went to California. | ||
| It's a great country. | ||
| I was out in California for three days, and it was the most over-the-top trip I've ever been on. | ||
| Before that, it was California, the Bohemian Grove. | ||
| That I infiltrated and got the footage of with Mike Hansen 22 years ago. | ||
| That was the strangest thing I ever did. | ||
| This trip topped it all. | ||
| And a lot of it I'm not at liberty to get into or talk about. | ||
| Very interesting. | ||
| And then the rest of it, we will break very, very soon. | ||
| In fact, I might even just start breaking it today because it's going to be breaking it at any time. | ||
| A lot of big stuff. | ||
| A lot of big stuff happened. | ||
| It was wild. | ||
| Definitely Hotel California. | ||
| This sounds like how a loser describes their boring ass vacation. | ||
| Oh my god, best vacation ever. | ||
| So much stuff happened, but it was too wild. | ||
| I can't even get into it. | ||
| It's so crazy. | ||
| There's like an Eyes Wide Shut thing going on, but I can't tell you all about it. | ||
| There are too many important people there. | ||
| Too many masks, too. | ||
| Yeah, it's too cool. | ||
| As best as I can tell, he was on that Full Send podcast that Trump had been on, and I guess he interviewed Mike Tyson. | ||
| But beyond that, I don't believe that he did shit until I see it. | ||
| I'm also not impressed by landing an interview with Mike Tyson in 2022. | ||
| I don't know if that's, like, I don't know if people are banging down his door for an interview. | ||
| Like, obviously not great, but if you would have gotten an interview with him in 1995, like when he got out of prison after he raped that lady, that would have at least been like people were trying to talk to him and he would have been turning down some media appearances. | ||
| This is just like, yeah. | ||
| Do you have an audience? | ||
| Mike Tyson will talk to you. | ||
| You know what's crazy is that I know the pathway that he got to Mike Tyson with, and that's frustrating for me because I know that Tom Segura and Mike Tyson are fairly good friends, so I'm assuming that it went Alex to Joe to Tom to Mike Tyson. | ||
| I imagine that might even be a shorter road than that. | ||
| Yeah, that's possible. | ||
| Because, I mean, Alex does have a bunch of... | ||
| Because of Joe, a bunch of associations in the MMA and fighting worlds. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Could be shorter. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm not impressed. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| I'll wait and see what Alex produces, but if that's what he was out there to do so far, and that's what we know about, that he was on that one podcast and he talked to Mike Tyson, I'm not imagining this is going to top his whole sneaking into Bohemian Grove thing. | ||
| You know, the thing that launched his fucking career. | ||
| I mean, Mike Tyson also has an Adult Swim cartoon, right? | ||
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Does he? | |
| Yeah! | ||
| It's like Mike Tyson's... | ||
| It's like a Scooby-Doo starring Mike Tyson. | ||
| I imagine if Mike Tyson, being the star of it, hasn't lost sponsors, him talking to Alex probably isn't going to lose him sponsors either. | ||
| No, it really doesn't. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| I, um... | ||
| I'm not convinced his trip was as amazing as he thinks. | ||
| He's going to talk a little bit more about this as the show goes on, but he goes to break, and he comes back. | ||
| This is so dumb. | ||
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Hey, let's just sit back and listen to some of this music. | |
| Some real poetry, if you know the German. | ||
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Exactly how I feel. | |
| After death, you will become an angel. | ||
| So, for what it's worth, Rammstein is a pretty left-leaning band, politically speaking. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Alex would think that they were demonic pedophiles if they were an American band. | ||
| This song is called Engel, and Alex is only saying that it's poetry because it's in German, and he knows that the audience will just nod along and think that he's deep. | ||
| In reality, it is fairly poetic, but it's a deeply anti-religious song about how the lead singer doesn't want to be an angel, and how the idea that if you're good in this life, you get to be an angel, that's bullshit. | ||
| Alex would hate just about everything about Rammstein, from their politics to their support of the LGBTQ community, but their music sounds angry, and Alex likes to yell, so he connects with that and he pretends that it's profound. | ||
| It's about how you feel Alex should hate that song. | ||
| I mean, it doesn't matter. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| Like, of their songs that are, like, singles. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That have come out, that probably is the one that he should hate the most. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But I mean... | ||
| At least Duhast is kind of, like, it's vague enough. | ||
| It's not explicitly anti-law. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| You can fake your way through that. | ||
| You hate me. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You get it. | ||
| Or you have me, depending on... | ||
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Can it happen? | |
| Actually, the American version is you hate me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyways... | ||
| But you don't have a choice to care in conservative worlds because conservatives make all the worst media. | ||
| They make all the worst music. | ||
| They make all the worst movies. | ||
| They make all the worst stuff. | ||
| There are probably some good outlaw country types who would have been conservative. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| But you've got to assume that some of that's pretty good music. | ||
| I'm not saying that. | ||
| Look, it may be the exception that proves the rule. | ||
| The point is, if all you've got is the best Christian music you've got, you're not going to be as happy as the rest of us. | ||
| That's probably true. | ||
| So you don't really have much choice to care. | ||
| You can't be like, oh, there's... | ||
| So you've got to listen to only music in other languages so you can pretend. | ||
| Exactly, so you can fake it out. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| That makes perfect sense. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So Alex gets to complaining about Joe Biden. | ||
| He's got dementia. | ||
| He's on meth. | ||
| Wait, which one? | ||
| Joe? | ||
| I mean, which Biden? | ||
| Joe Biden. | ||
| Well, I mean, yeah, but which one? | ||
| We know that Joe Biden's dead. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| That's in Project Camelot. | ||
| There's still just one Joe Biden recorded in for worse. | ||
| Jim Carrey. | ||
| And how the establishment can continue to stick him in front of cameras, not knowing what's about to come out. | ||
| I mean, if you thought corn pop and the blonde hair standing up and the black kids are like roaches, he said that, not me. | ||
| If you sit there and think that's crazy, Well, you don't know people with dementia. | ||
| So he's somebody with dementia that they give methamphetamine to. | ||
| His pupils are just jacked out. | ||
| And they give him bags of blood. | ||
| And he doesn't know what planet he's on. | ||
| And let me tell you what's screwing up society and civilization. | ||
| It really is drugs at the end of the day. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I was out in California for one of the biggest podcasts out there. | ||
| I was hanging around with a very interesting, famous person. | ||
| Because I'm literally like an anthropologist. | ||
| What? | ||
| Shut the fuck up. | ||
| How have you smoked marijuana? | ||
| We hear you're a big drug addict. | ||
| And I say about once a year, like a cultural thing, like a peace pipe. | ||
| But it's so strong, I don't like it. | ||
| Soros funded, you know, and other groups making it weaponized. | ||
| And they laughed at that then. | ||
| They're not laughing now. | ||
| I'm still laughing. | ||
| I'm very much laughing. | ||
| I'll take from this that Alex is referring to hanging out with Mike Tyson and going to do that Full Sun podcast, and I guess he got high while he was out there and it was pretty strong, which is obviously a Soros attack. | ||
| The story of his vacation sounds so desperate and pathetic, though. | ||
| He seems to be saying that he flew to California to be on a podcast, and I would say that no matter what that podcast is, no podcast is worth flying across the country to be a guest on it. | ||
| Maybe if you're an up-and-comer trying to make a name for yourself, then you could see, like, let's say you're, like, a comic who went on the road with a friend of Rogan's, and this person's fucking amazing. | ||
| You get an offer to be on Rogan. | ||
| You're going. | ||
| I could see flying there. | ||
| That could be career-making. | ||
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Totally. | |
| Alex's brand is that he's already the most important person in media, so he shouldn't be so goddamn desperate to be associated with the Junior Varsity Rogan podcast. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He went to Florida to be on Flagrant 2, and now he's going to California to be on this full send. | ||
| It just seems really fucking thirsty. | ||
| I think, and here's my suspicion, alright? | ||
| He absolutely does not trust that he can make a voice call last long enough without the crew screwing something up. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I mean, that's probably a good theory. | ||
| I mean, really, that's why he has to be in person. | ||
| Hey, look, Skype's breaking up. | ||
| I can't even Skype on my own show, let alone for someone else's. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But also, how does the audience not get suspicious about all these trips he seems to be taking, all the while yelling about how desperately he needs money to keep a show going? | ||
| Shouldn't that set off some alarms? | ||
| Like, these people, like, he could pretend that he's doing, like, important anti-globalist business or something, and like, I'm meeting with people behind the scenes. | ||
| That's nonsense. | ||
| And Joel- He's going to try and just get clout by being on these fucking podcasts. | ||
| Totally, but Joel Osteen can own four jets and- And be like, hey, the congregation needs to give me another debt. | ||
| And they're like, yes, we do! | ||
| In fairness, Alex is no Joel Osteen. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| But yeah, so Alex got high while he was out in California. | ||
| Good for him. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| You know, you can control those. | ||
| I smoked some pot when I was out in California, where it's legal. | ||
| And I still feel it two days later. | ||
| Smoked it one time at one sitting. | ||
| Well, somebody whose initials start with an M and end with a... | ||
| The point is, it's going to be huge when it comes out. | ||
| But, I mean, I did it when in Rome is the Romans, and I literally feel like marijuana felt in 19... | ||
| 90 when I'd occasionally smoke it. | ||
| Yes, he's still high a couple days later from this Caliweed. | ||
| Nothing quite like those kids being like, oh man, I'm so high right now. | ||
| You didn't actually smoke marijuana, buddy. | ||
| You're lying. | ||
| I will agree with him that even from when I was younger... | ||
| And you would get, like, schwag. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| With some shit weed. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| It was not nearly the potency that you see from things at the dispensary, for example. | ||
| But I don't know if you're going to be high two days later. | ||
| No, small town Illinois didn't get me past maybe 10, 12% THC content. | ||
| And now you go up to 28, 29, you're going to have a good day. | ||
| Those numbers didn't mean anything to me back when I was... | ||
| Totally. | ||
| I had no idea. | ||
| I didn't know there was such a thing as content. | ||
| And that's what I'm saying. | ||
| Now, if you're worried about it, you don't have to smoke the most THC. | ||
| You can go and they'll be like, oh, you only want 15%. | ||
| That makes perfect sense. | ||
| Yeah, or you can just not smoke it. | ||
| Oh, no, no. | ||
| You gotta do it once a year. | ||
| It's a cultural thing. | ||
| It is kind of important. | ||
| You go to L.A., there is just plentiful weaponized marijuana, plentiful weaponized everything else everywhere, and fentanyl. | ||
| There's just plentiful marijuana. | ||
| This is the chemical bioattack to take down America and turn us into zombies. | ||
| And I'm not judging the people. | ||
| You've got to go in and be in amongst it all. | ||
| You've got to bond with them so I can then have a national discussion about this. | ||
| But if I smoked pot like that every day, I'd be like these people. | ||
| Hell, I feel like I'm ready to lie down on the side of the road and go to sleep for a couple months right now. | ||
| I'm serious, folks. | ||
| I took five hits off California weed and I can barely get up. | ||
| You ever smoke that California weed? | ||
| It is fun. | ||
| That Calidro. | ||
| It's so fun to live in two different worlds of weed legalization. | ||
| You know, because he still lives in that you can get... | ||
| You know, you can have a weed to smoke. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, not like you can go to a store where they have the thing you want. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| But also, like, what a sacrifice Alex made for the greater good. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| I can't believe how selfless he is getting high with Mike Tyson so he could be amongst the stone people and get the word out about the New World Order or something. | ||
| What a fucking hero. | ||
| Listen, you in small town Texas, you need to support the man because no one is going to go to California and get high with Mike. | ||
| Right, Tyson. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Not for you. | ||
| He's such an anthropologist. | ||
| He's bringing knowledge to the people! | ||
| Also, there's an element of this that is like... | ||
| I'm like Jesus, really. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| I was amongst the riffraff. | ||
| I went into the den of sex workers in order to make sure that they received the same word of salvation that you among you do. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Incidentally, this is also probably Alex's explanation for why he got wasted on Rogan's show, because he needed to get the message out. | ||
| He needed to be amongst the people. | ||
| Also probably why he got so drunk on Logan Paul's show that Logan's co-host was subtly trying to get him to stop drinking through the show. | ||
| also probably why he got so drunk on his first time on flagrant too that he took off his shirt and seemed to be in an active blackout all of that was just part of the info war it had nothing to do with Alex having a problem with substances and it being like honestly more fun to be You know, there is a field of anthropology that studies entirely about how much better it is to be high in the exact moment you're in. | ||
| It's not historical anthropology. | ||
| It's just, uh... | ||
| Nope, that's just doing drugs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, uh, Alex... | ||
| Gets off this whole Cali weed situation. | ||
| Goes back to talking about the Pope. | ||
| Let me just read you a couple of these headlines here for you today. | ||
| Pope Francis warns a final catastrophe, close quote, quote, could extinguish human race. | ||
| I really should do the whole show on that. | ||
| You do! | ||
| He's absolutely telling the truth. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Looks like Harrison had the wrong take on this one. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Alex knows where his bread is buttered, and he's not going to expose the business like Harrison's stupid ass did at the top of the show. | ||
| Sure, we hate the Pope, but in a situation like this, you lose nothing by just agreeing with the Pope and saying he accidentally got this right or he has a bad reason to be right or something. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the right move here from a propaganda standpoint, and if there was even a drop of integrity at InfoWars and people meant anything that they said, This should be a huge problem between Harrison and Alex. | ||
| For them, this isn't disagreeing about a news story. | ||
| This is a deeply rooted theological disagreement. | ||
| Because Harrison believes the Pope is wrong, at least in part because the Bible doesn't say that humanity goes out like that. | ||
| So for Alex to entertain it as a possibility and even say that the Pope is right... | ||
| That should be heretical talk, according to Harrison. | ||
| None of this means anything, because this is a company full of extreme right-wing zealot con man liars, but I point this out to illustrate that if any of these people had any of the convictions they claimed they did, they could never coexist and work together. | ||
| It would just be constant violence. | ||
| Yeah, we would never be in this situation if they believed what they said, because he would never have said that the Pope was lying about the end of the world. | ||
| Because he believes that the world is ending. | ||
| Well, actually, I don't know about the inner workings of InfoWars. | ||
| After this episode, Harrison might have stapled the 95 theses on Alex's office door. | ||
| There may be a schism happening within InfoWars. | ||
| That is possible. | ||
| I may have spoken out of turn. | ||
| Another thing that went wrong for Ireland. | ||
| Martin Luther, once again, blown us up. | ||
| So, Alex has been gone for a bit, and... | ||
| You know, as he's been gone, the situation in Ukraine has continued to be bad. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Has it gotten better? | ||
| So Alex has some thoughts. | ||
| And I agree with Rand Paul when he said, Putin miscalculated. | ||
| Yeah, why did he miscalculate? | ||
| Why did his Foreign Service FSB head, their CIA head, Why did they tell them that everybody was going to surrender? | ||
| Because let me tell you, if I knew that there would stay-behind networks there, and that those stay-behind networks hadn't been compromised or paid off, that the Russians would be in big trouble? | ||
| If I knew that, and I did, I told you, the CIA's been over there training them since 2014, because I know folks that have been over there, but it's not even a secret, then you know Putin knew that, or you knew that the FSB knew. | ||
| So, I mean, maybe... | ||
| Maybe Putin didn't know. | ||
| He sure as hell has arrested the head of the FSB Foreign Intelligence Service and his deputies and a bunch of others. | ||
| How dangerous is that? | ||
| And then this breaks yesterday, Yahoo News. | ||
| Exclusive secret CIA training program in Ukraine helped Kiev prepare for Russian invasion. | ||
| Uh, yeah. | ||
| But it didn't start in 2015. | ||
| It started in 1945. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, first off, right off the bat, this has no similarity with Alex's coverage of things before the war started or after the invasion began. | ||
| This is a completely new narrative that he's pretending has been what he was saying all along, and that's the case because Alex is a malicious liar. | ||
| Also, the CIA was founded in 1947, and Ukraine didn't withdraw from the Soviet Union until 1991. | ||
| I guess when Alex says 1945, it just means the end of World War II. | ||
| So I guess at that point, an organization that didn't exist yet was providing military training to a country that wasn't an independent country at that point. | ||
| It makes total sense. | ||
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Yes. | |
| The Yahoo News article that Alex is talking about is about how after the 2014 invasion, CIA groups did teach some tactics to Ukrainian soldiers, but a lot of this isn't as secret or nefarious as it sounds. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| From the article, quote, I'm not saying this is a non-story, it just doesn't carry the same kind of weight that Alex needs it to. | ||
| Also, in terms of Sergey Basada, the head of the FSB who got arrested, it seems like Alex is writing a really generous story about that. | ||
| Alex wants to create the image that everything Putin does is okay. | ||
| So in this case, the head of the FSB was aware of stay-behind networks and didn't tell Putin about them so that he would set up into a trap, and that's why Putin rightly arrested him. | ||
| Looking at it a different way, it might be the case that Putin is realizing that this whole thing is making him look a little bit weak, and in order to show strength, he's found a subordinate to blame and make a scapegoat. | ||
| This is, again, an example of Alex's editorial decision clearly revealing his positions. | ||
| He'll rationalize literally anything that Putin does. | ||
| If Putin nuked the U.S., Alex would get on air the next day and say that Soros made him do it. | ||
| That's the point we're at now. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| It's bizarre. | ||
| It is very funny that his questions about why Putin did this, you know, like... | ||
| Why is he failing? | ||
| Why wasn't his intelligence very good? | ||
| The actual answers to that could be very useful to Alex as well, such as maybe autocratic leaders who control everything don't like hearing bad news about how their military can't do stuff. | ||
| They like to hear only good things and only have things reinforced and only have people follow out their orders the way that they're supposed to. | ||
| And when you do that, sometimes, if you have bad intelligence, you make a huge, drastic mistake. | ||
| That you continue to do for long after you should have that will eventually lead to you losing millions upon millions upon millions of dollars. | ||
| So maybe the analog of this is Alex having everybody tell him that things are going great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And instead of him going on a military adventure, he keeps going across the country to do podcasts and he can't afford it. | ||
| Something along those lines. | ||
| And everybody's like, yeah, you did great, boss. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Getting that tank was a great idea. | ||
| Such a good idea. | ||
| So smart, man. | ||
| Yeah, don't rent. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Buy that thing. | ||
| You gotta own. | ||
| I'll leave you to your kids someday. | ||
| So anyway, there's stay-behind networks, which... | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| But Alex makes a bizarre metaphor here. | ||
| And the first war after World War II was not Korea. | ||
| It was 1945 in Ukraine. | ||
| That's actually in the mainline military history books. | ||
| But, you know, the Cold War started. | ||
| An iron curtain has descended down, as Churchill said, over Eastern Europe. | ||
| And so, stay behind networks that the Nazis had. | ||
| The U.S. came in. | ||
| That's why they recruited Adolf Ackman and Klaus Barbie and Joseph Mengele and all the rest of them. | ||
| It was so they could control those networks and try to hold off the Soviets' political coups and overthrows in Eastern Europe. | ||
| And in some areas they were successful and most they weren't. | ||
| But then those stay-behind networks never went away. | ||
| And so the United States simply reactivated them. | ||
| And isn't it funny? | ||
| You can put seeds, almost any plant seed, in a drawer for hundreds of years and they'll still be good when you plant them. | ||
| They've dug up virus seeds in 3,000-year-old Egyptian tombs that sprout perfectly later. | ||
| So you wonder why when they put the miracle grow of an overthrow and a civil war on Ukraine, when Soros did that, that came up out of the dirt to Soros, beautiful comrades he fought with against the Russians in World War II. | ||
| Beautiful comrades came popping back up because they were just laying there dormant for 75 years under the soil, their children. | ||
| And grandchildren. | ||
| This metaphor completely got away from Alex. | ||
| That is out of control. | ||
| So the stay-behind networks he's trying to make his audience think of involves Operation Gladio, and we've talked about that a bit in the past, but suffice it to say, isn't involved in any of the reality of the things we're talking about here. | ||
| This all sounds pretty like a fun metaphor, though, like seeds never die. | ||
| Soros planted the seeds of rebellion that lay dormant until the uprising was triggered. | ||
| This feels good for Alex to say, you know, like laying out this metaphor, until he starts realizing what he's saying. | ||
| He runs into two very serious problems. | ||
| The first is that seeds don't live forever. | ||
| I was gonna say, Dan. | ||
| Most are not viable after a few years, and this is the case when they're properly stored and preserved. | ||
| There are some ancient seeds that have been viable and could be planted, but they're absolutely the exception, not the rule. | ||
| The oldest seed that's been viable and still planted was a Judean palm, which was 2,000 years old, but the next oldest is 1,300 years old. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 700 years? | ||
| That's almost 50% of the time. | ||
| It's pretty big. | ||
| It's really rare for this to actually work. | ||
| And there have been a ton of hoaxes where people plant seeds that they claim are old, but they're actually just current-day seeds. | ||
| Alex has probably seen, like, daily mail headlines about these hoaxes and assumed that it happens all the time. | ||
| I'm not sure why he said it was papyrus, but I guess it was just because that's a word that sounds like an ancient thing. | ||
| Yeah, it's from Egypt. | ||
| Papyrus. | ||
| The second problem is that when he started the metaphor, I don't think he realized how far back he was going. | ||
| If these stay-behind networks were set up in 1945, then assuming the members were 18 at that point, they'd be like 100 now. | ||
| Ah, no. | ||
| What you don't understand is that they were shot out of a rocket at relativistic speeds. | ||
| Towards Alpha Centauri. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And then when they got back around... | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| They went to Beetle Guiz. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But see, because they were irrelevant, they didn't age! | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And they were training the whole time. | ||
| I think that your theory is interesting, but assuming that isn't the case... | ||
| It's as good as his. | ||
| They would be 100 years old, and I don't know how effective a 100-year-old stay-by network would be at repelling a Russian invasion. | ||
| I saw Indiana Jones in the Last Crusade, and that old dude did not... | ||
| Not fight well. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| 100 years old is tough for infantrymen. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So it's a ludicrous idea, which is why Alex realizes his mistake and how dumb that sounds. | ||
| So he says that it's the children and grandchildren of those stay-by networks. | ||
| This is so stupid. | ||
| He can't prove that these networks exist, and even if he did, now he has to somehow find a way to show that they passed down their positions generationally. | ||
| So just really, really dumb stuff. | ||
| And it's just leading me to suspect that Alex is still high. | ||
| I think he might still be high. | ||
| From his trip. | ||
| I do like the idea of some teenager being like, I don't want to be in a stay-behind network, Dad! | ||
| You're going to be in a stay-behind network because one day Soros is going to put Miracle-Gro on us. | ||
| I want to paint! | ||
| I want to paint, Dad! | ||
| You will be. | ||
| I was in a stay-behind network. | ||
| My father before me was in a stay-behind network. | ||
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We are a stay-behind network family. | |
| Churchill himself put us here! | ||
| Yeah, alright. | ||
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It's a fun picture. | |
| Yeah, no, that's great. | ||
| So, Alex knows a lot about the situation historically between Russia and Ukraine. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Clearly. | ||
| And that's why, like, everyone thinks he's a bad guy. | ||
| Because he knows facts. | ||
| Like things that were put out by Putin in press releases. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| We hate people who know facts here. | ||
| Yeah, but he's not taken a side. | ||
| That's what people can't grasp. | ||
| But still, I don't support Putin in what he's done. | ||
| I know all the facts about it, or a lot of the facts, so I'm the bad man. | ||
| Because you know, you don't want the public actually knowing the pieces to make their own decision. | ||
| And my decision is, let's end this war real quick. | ||
| The West helped start it with Stay Behind Networks. | ||
| Putin took the bait and came in. | ||
| It endangers the world. | ||
| Both sides have arguments. | ||
| Let's end this now. | ||
| Like the Pope said, we need peace, we need a deal, we need to stop this right now. | ||
| And I'm not usually agreeing with the Pope, or even Biden saying we could have World War III. | ||
| It just, it needs... | ||
| To stop. | ||
| And instead of being on Ukraine's side, like all the left of the media is calling for World War II, or instead of being on the Russian side saying Putin's perfect and he deserves it all and he's right and let's get behind him and crush, you know, Putin's just start leveling cities. | ||
| He'll show them what to do. | ||
| No, let's not do any of that. | ||
| If you had to blame somebody, it's Soros and the left and the globalists. | ||
| I mean, if you have to pick who started this and who drew first blood and who got this all going and who poked the bear over and over again so it would come down the path and step in the bear trap, yeah, it's the globalists. | ||
| It's the New World Order. | ||
| It's Barack Obama. | ||
| It's George Soros. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Wow, that kind of undercuts your whole point about not taking a side. | ||
| So, I'm not going to take a side. | ||
| I am just going to say that it is entirely Obama's fault that we are here. | ||
| Obviously, it's the left and Soros. | ||
| This is, again, these editorial acts that just reveal your actual positions. | ||
| Alex can say that he's neutral or whatever. | ||
| It doesn't support Putin, but... | ||
| The compounded effect of literally every piece of information that he provides is Putin is right, Putin is good, the invasion is justified. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that CIA story, the Stay Behind Network started in 1945, not 2015, immediately following Putin annexing a country that he... | ||
| You know, it wasn't in response to something that has already happened. | ||
| Right, absolutely not. | ||
| It was crazy. | ||
| Out of the blue. | ||
| It was Obama and Soros. | ||
| Obama was a madman. | ||
| I can't think of anyone more mad. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So this clip is nuts, but I did like the way that Alex is kind of laying out this idea that what you should do is you should think globalistically. | ||
| I'm sorry, what? | ||
| Think globalistically. | ||
| And act localistically. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So the answer is seeing the whole thing from a globalist perspective but being against their agenda. | ||
| Understanding what they're doing, but then saying, I'm not going to be part of this. | ||
| I'm going to find a solution out of this so we don't kill each other and stop with this war model that we can't engage in now because of nuclear weapons and other things. | ||
| Of course the bio labs are real. | ||
| Of course all this is insane. | ||
| The people running our country hate us. | ||
| They hate us more than the Russians. | ||
| One thing about being in L.A. for three days, man. | ||
| I get sick every time I'm there. | ||
| What did you say? | ||
| Allergies, like the toxic dust. | ||
| Every time I go there, I get a huge headache and just feel like hell. | ||
| I don't know why I'm going off on a tangent here, but man. | ||
| Good question. | ||
| Beautiful place, a lot of amazing stuff, but man. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| I hope Alex didn't get COVID again. | ||
| I guess we probably won't know for a while if he did because he lied about it the other times he got it and came to work and exposed his entire crew to it. | ||
| He'd rather do that than admit that he might have been wrong about it being real and serious and something he can catch. | ||
| It's probably just like a California curse. | ||
| Gotta be. | ||
| I would assume. | ||
| It's gotta be California. | ||
| Maybe his weed was laced with the flu. | ||
| It's gotta be. | ||
| It's gotta be. | ||
| It was a biolab in Ukraine. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's where it came from. | ||
| That's unfortunate. | ||
| But we're going to talk about that a little bit more as the episode goes on. | ||
| So we'll leave that aside for right now. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I like though that Alex's solution is literally a non-solution. | ||
| He has absolutely no solution that's being provided here, and every single one of his talking points is backing up Putin's narrative of the war. | ||
| Soros and Obama are to blame, ultimately. | ||
| He was just trying to wipe out these dangerous bioweapon labs. | ||
| This is wall-to-wall, weasel-ass Putin propaganda, and Alex is too much of a coward to admit his real positions. | ||
| He can say he's nuanced and he sees both sides, but the reality of this content, the information that he's covering, is deeply one-sided, and everything he brings up is something meant to legitimize Putin's invasion. | ||
| And when he says, like, we need to end this... | ||
| It's like there's basically one person who can do that. | ||
| It's not Ukraine that's continuing this war. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| So deal with that, you dick. | ||
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But also, think globalistically, act locally. | |
| It's fun. | ||
| That is fun. | ||
| Because Alex is sort of presenting this idea that if you want to save the world, all you have to do is pretend you're fighting a shadowy, all-powerful group of villains whose plans are really dumb and they come from your imagination. | ||
| I mean, it was originally Steve Harvey's sequel to Think Like a Woman, Act Like a Man, or whatever it was. | ||
| Think like a globalist, act like a patriot. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| I think it's crazy to me that you can say, okay, well, all of Putin's justifications for this war are true and right. | ||
| Now, I'm not on his side. | ||
| I'm not saying that he is totally justified in this by his own justifications, because if not, why not? | ||
| His justifications you have said are true, so why aren't you supporting him? | ||
| That's a very simple... | ||
| That's a huge question that Alex doesn't want to answer. | ||
| Never answer that, ever. | ||
| And then the second... | ||
| The person you specifically noted lied! | ||
| To you! | ||
| Well, he pretends that episode didn't happen. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| That's a good episode. | ||
| That never happened. | ||
| And all of Alex's stories in the lead up to the war and when the invasion happened. | ||
| Never happened. | ||
| Those didn't. | ||
| No, absolutely not. | ||
| This is all about stay-behind networks that Alex has been warning about and he was very aware of in the end of February. | ||
| Wait, so did Putin pay off the stay-behind networks and they betrayed him? | ||
| Maybe that's what Alex is thinking. | ||
| That's what it's got to be, right? | ||
| But still, that wasn't a topic of conversation up until this point. | ||
| Seems like it would be. | ||
| You'd think. | ||
| That should be really important. | ||
| So we got another headline here. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Let me get into some more of the headlines here. | ||
| Oh, how loving. | ||
| I mentioned this earlier. | ||
| U.S. sending suicide drones to Ukraine. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| That's an interesting headline for Alex to use because based on the wording of it, I know exactly where it came from. | ||
| Other outlets reported on this story saying switchblade drones, but the site that uses this headline, suicide drones, is informationliberation.com. | ||
| I decided to check out some of their most recent articles and, oh man, what's going on here? | ||
| Quote, these storms will contribute to Russia's glory. | ||
| Putin holds giant rally in packed Moscow Stadium. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| That's an interesting headline. | ||
| That's not going to go well. | ||
| Oh, here's a little bit further down the feed. | ||
| Quote, Zelensky delivers his funniest performance yet in speech before U.S. Congress. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| I can see disagreeing with Zelensky or possibly even being opposed to Ukraine. | ||
| I don't know exactly how you would, but whatever. | ||
| It's a position that someone could have, but it's another level of being a shithead to say that speech was funny. | ||
| This line was probably really funny to this blogger. | ||
| Quote, I'm almost 45 years old. | ||
| Today my age stopped when the hearts of more than 100 children stopped beating. | ||
| I see no sense in life if it cannot stop the deaths. | ||
| This is my mission as the leader of my people and the leader of my nation. | ||
| So I guess that's funny to this guy. | ||
| Yeah, hilarious. | ||
| Huh, this one doesn't sound good. | ||
| Quote, the great Jewish oligarchs escape. | ||
| Russian oligarchs flee to Israel and bid to dodge sanctions. | ||
| I was literally going to make a joke headline. | ||
| No, you don't need to. | ||
| Nope, don't even need to bother with it. | ||
| Non-whites, do we need them? | ||
| Interestingly, this was covering an article in Haratz titled, quote, The Great Oligarch's Escape, but this blog decided to add Jewish to it and to make the whole story really just an exercise in the anti-Semitic dual loyalty trope that's a classic in white nationalist and neo-Nazi communities. | ||
| It's really weird. | ||
| It's a great way to do it. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| Oh, here's some important news that they decided to cover. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Quote, Patriarch... | ||
| This was about the spiritual leader of the Russian Orthodox Church and Putin ally, Patriarch Kirill, making some really dumb comments. | ||
| Quote, This is a gay parade. | ||
| So yeah, this leader, a Putin ally, gave a speech about how you... | ||
| Hey, you want to end the club? | ||
| You gotta have a gay parade. | ||
| There is nothing that gets one closer to God than really blaming the murder of thousands of people on gay people existing. | ||
| That's just... | ||
| So here's a bad one article that they posted just before the invasion. | ||
| Here's the headline. | ||
| I'm going to read it to you and you can tell me if this blogger thinks that this is a good or a bad thing. | ||
| Let's hear it. | ||
| Quote, Putin gives blood and soil speech on Ukraine unifying with Russia. | ||
| Okay, well that's probably going to be a bad thing because we all know that blood and soil speech is, you know, it's a very specific reference to a certain type of speech. | ||
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It's not good. | |
| Oh, it's not good? | ||
| No, he loves it. | ||
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| Here's the beginning of the article. | ||
| "Vladimir Putin on Monday delivered an impassioned speech accusing the Ukrainian government of operating a kleptocracy controlled by corrupt oligarchs and a, quote, network of foreign advisers and non-governmental organizations." Man, I gotta say, this website looks totally above board and the sort of place that I would be shopping for articles to cover on my show if I were Alex. | ||
| This website is almost offensively biased, and Alex knows that. | ||
| He gets his news from aggressively pro-Putin sites and espouses strictly pro-Putin messaging while hiding behind this facade that he's exploring both sides. | ||
| Alex does this because Alex can play the game. | ||
| I resent this attempt to appear moderate while at the same time... | ||
| Like, you're taking your news from this fucking blog that is disgustingly pro-Putin to the level of mocking as funny Zelensky's speech where he discusses needing help and the civilians being killed. | ||
| It's abhorrent. | ||
| I mean, what I see from this, from so much of that, especially the people trying to run interference for it, is it's smart to get people to think it's okay to murder people based on false reasons. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| It is, you know, you don't want to say that it's wrong for Putin to just go murder people, because then people might connect that to you going and murdering people, and then you won't be allowed to do it. | ||
| I think there might be some of that underneath the surface, but I think there's also a pot-committed kind of thing in poker terms. | ||
| I think that there's just a level to which Alex has built up Putin as the enemy of the globalists and all this, and to... | ||
| Accept and admit that he's carrying out a war that is unnecessary and is targeting civilians and is terrorizing people. | ||
| It would require you to take the side of the quote-unquote globalist. | ||
| And Alex can't get himself to that point. | ||
| I feel like it's not that hard to go from Putin miscalculated to, uh-oh, Putin's tricked us. | ||
| You know, just be like, he's a liar. | ||
| He lied to me. | ||
| Just say he's a liar, and he's a secret globalist the whole time. | ||
| But then maybe the globalists are good. | ||
| He can't be a secret globalist the whole time, because he's fighting against Ukraine that is full of Soros and stay-behind networks. | ||
| Sure, but if there's a stay-behind network, he can be a deep agent. | ||
| He's part of the deep... | ||
| Trump is a secret patriot for 50 years. | ||
| Can't do it. | ||
| Alex tried to play that Zelensky was a double agent for Putin for a while. | ||
| That didn't work. | ||
| That did not go well. | ||
| No, but think about this, too. | ||
| there is no hope for this anti-globalist leadership if Putin isn't that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Because who do you have then? | |
| No. | ||
| that's not going to rally any interest. | ||
| Brazil is not an insignificant country, but it's not a world superpower. | ||
| Right. | ||
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In order to create the kind of situation where there's a multipolar world, where there's a check, I guess, of... | |
| Potential hostility against the UN or the global government, as Alex would put it. | ||
| You need a superpower to be led by an anti-globalist person. | ||
| And Putin is required for that. | ||
| And it would take Erdogan literally being like, ha ha, we're out of NATO, surprise! | ||
| We're now evil! | ||
| Had to be, yeah. | ||
| And then... | ||
| Now evil. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| First time. | ||
| There's no hope for the possibility of, like, leadership. | ||
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No. | |
| And, like, Trump is gone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Probably not coming back. | ||
| Maybe he is. | ||
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Who knows? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| But even if he does, it's not going to be, like, it's... | ||
| We've played that game already. | ||
| It's sour grapes. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| For Alex. | ||
| And I think that's a big part of what he can't give up on. | ||
| Is that, like, if Putin were to... | ||
| Well, a strong man can't lose. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If a strong man loses, he's not strong. | ||
| Well, a strong man can lose if you're against them. | ||
| Well, sure. | ||
| But your strong man can't lose. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then your ideology or the story that you're telling... | ||
| Right. | ||
| It doesn't continue past that point. | ||
| We don't know about Casey's next at bat. | ||
| So we get another headline. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Something? | ||
| Maybe a headline? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Enemy of the people. | ||
| Fake news media begged for war during White House press briefing. | ||
| We've got this slobbering event as a bunch of women call for war. | ||
| I thought women were anti-war. | ||
| That's a fun little bit of sexism there. | ||
| Great. | ||
| I'm a little curious who told Alex that women were against war. | ||
| Well, considering that one reason he hated Hillary Clinton so much was that she was a warmonger. | ||
| Well, that's true. | ||
| It seems like it would be hard to go back now and say that women are against war. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think maybe he's... | ||
| Thinking of Greta Thunberg? | ||
| I suppose. | ||
| Children? | ||
| I thought children were supposed to be against war. | ||
| Well, yeah, they are, buddy. | ||
| So this was a compilation of clips of reporters in the press room asking if there was a point where Biden would see as like a red line. | ||
| It does come off a bit bad, and I do think that there's a preoccupation with the idea of a larger war breaking out. | ||
| But these reporters weren't begging for a war so much as they were trying to get information that they can report. | ||
| And one of the main questions on the readers'minds, presumably, is whether or not there's a situation where Biden would consider sending troops and going to war. | ||
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I'm not going to spend my time defending it, but Alex is misrepresenting this clip and weirdly using it as a strange attack on women. | |
| Sure, why not? | ||
| Yeah, it seems like Biden learned the Obama lesson, which is don't say openly that there's a red line, because when it gets crossed and you don't do shit about it, you're fucked. | ||
| I think that that's probably a great policy in general. | ||
| Don't make that kind of a specific... | ||
| It's too... | ||
| Chaotic. | ||
| Speaking of chaos, we've got a guest coming in, someone we haven't heard from in a while. | ||
| Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| We've got really one of the best experts we could have on about this. | ||
| Dr. Francis Boyle went to Harvard and other universities and got the special degree, PhD, the only handout once a year, the same one Kissinger got, the same one Kissinger administered. | ||
| So we got that top view of the Anglo-American. | ||
| A globalist arm. | ||
| So you like Kissinger? | ||
| And, of course, he did many other things. | ||
| He wrote the U.S. chemical and then later biological weapons laws, then was instrumental in the U.N. treaties as well. | ||
| He was the lead UN, also prosecutor in some of the biggest war crimes cases ever, including Sullivan Milojevic. | ||
| His pedigree is known. | ||
| We don't need to go over it here. | ||
| It's really interesting how Francis Boyle stopped showing up on the show for a really long stretch where Alex didn't see much money in pushing the Wuhan lab conspiracies, either because the audience was getting bored of them or because there wasn't any new territory to cover there. | ||
| Either way, without that being a hot topic, Francis Boyle is straight up worthless as a guest. | ||
| He's boring, he seems like a crank, and in order to introduce him in a way that the audience will like, you have to lie about his credentials. | ||
| A couple of quick corrections. | ||
| The bioweapon law that Boyle wrote wasn't adapted into the one that the U.N. uses. | ||
| The U.S. version Boyle wrote was adapted from the U.N. version. | ||
| Alex always lies about this because his version makes it appear like Boyle is influencing international law as opposed to the reality that he was just adapting international law so it would apply domestically in the United States. | ||
| And actually, when you kind of think about that, that's what a globalist might do. | ||
| Well, what he had to do was remove the U's from color because in America... | ||
| American, color doesn't have the U. So, I mean, that's a pretty big deal. | ||
| And you have to change United Nations to United States. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, that's tough. | ||
| That is tough. | ||
| Also, he wasn't a prosecutor, let alone the lead one in the case against Milosevic. | ||
| Boyle helped write the indictment in that case. | ||
| Also, Alex should be opposed to that, because that was a case that was heard in the UN, which Alex can't believe has any jurisdiction. | ||
| I don't know why he picks and chooses. | ||
| Yeah, whatever. | ||
| You win some, you lose some. | ||
| Alex probably doesn't want to get into the weeds with Boyle's resume, at least partially because he represented the provisional government of the state of Palestine, as well as many native groups like the Lakota Nation. | ||
| And he was formerly on the board of Amnesty International, who Alex has called a child trafficking operation in the past. | ||
| Anyway, I appreciate some of the folks that Boyle has represented, but this dude sucks. | ||
| The Ukraine Biolab shit is flying around, so Alex remembered that Boyle... | ||
| He's got to trot his boring ass down for a chat. | ||
| Ugh. | ||
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Fun. | |
| Great. | ||
| Great. | ||
| So, we got Boyle in there to justify Putin killing people. | ||
| In a manner. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, Alex, they get into the biolab thing here. | ||
| He's also an expert on biological weapons labs. | ||
| I'm very frustrated in that I have hundreds of articles admitting that Obama and others went and... | ||
| Basically refurbished these Soviet-era labs. | ||
| It was in the Washington Post. | ||
| It was everywhere. | ||
| It's not debatable. | ||
| And then Victoria Newland comes out last week. | ||
| Again, the Deputy Secretary of State and the Ukraine expert, as they call her, and admits that the labs are there, but then the media simultaneously says they don't exist. | ||
| We made them up. | ||
| And then you're a Russian agent if you say they exist. | ||
| And then, oh, but the Russians have seized two of them that don't exist. | ||
| USA Today and CNN say they're going to attack us with them, but they don't exist. | ||
| And so it just seems like we've entered a land beyond the Tea Party and Alice in Wonderland. | ||
| I mean, this is just... | ||
| It takes brass balls to accuse something of being like the Tea Party when that's what you called your political party. | ||
| It's real weird. | ||
| So, here's the game that's being played. | ||
| Alex and his weirdo propagandist friends make an incendiary accusation based on years-old Russian propaganda. | ||
| In fact, the exact accusation Russia used in terms of other invasions, like in Georgia. | ||
| Alex says there's bioweapon labs run by the U.S. and Ukraine, and starts building a conspiracy about how that's why Putin is invading. | ||
| Though he may not have originated the claim, he amplifies it, and part of that information space create elaborate stories to flesh out this conspiracy, to the point where a bunch of idiots online are convinced that that's where COVID got made. | ||
| Folks who know things push back and say that this is ridiculous and there aren't bioweapons labs run by the United States in Ukraine. | ||
| They aren't saying that there aren't any biological labs in the country and aren't covering up U.S. support for their modernization efforts, but they are pushing back against the stupid, overblown conspiracy. | ||
| Now, Alex is taking those denials and pretending they were actually denying that there were no labs in the country, and this is super confusing to him. | ||
| Things get confusing when you just make shit up all the time and attack your imaginary enemies, and you constantly lose the thread. | ||
| You know, you imagine what they were saying back, and... | ||
| It's all exhausting. | ||
| Also, Obama has nothing to do with the starting of this partnership between Kiev and the United States in terms of modernizing those labs. | ||
| That dates back to at least 2005 and the Weapon Non-Proliferation Treaty we signed with them years before Obama was president. | ||
| Also, if Alex has... | ||
| It's 1945. | ||
| You have to say it slower. | ||
| Sorry, my bad. | ||
| Also, if Alex says all these old articles about Obama making weapons labs in Ukraine, how was there no mention of this in the lead up to the invasion? | ||
| It seems like if all this shit would be relevant, and it's definitely a large part of his coverage now, but it feels like this only became a talking Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| I do like that, like, oh, they refurbished them. | ||
| How evil. | ||
| Shouldn't it be a simple question of, like, hey, what do you want in foreign bio labs? | ||
| Do you want them to have drips dropping from the ceiling and leaky shit everywhere? | ||
| Or do you want it to be safe? | ||
| Obviously. | ||
| It's not hard. | ||
| And there's a reason why labs require... | ||
| Keeping some of these samples around. | ||
| And I think that some people often don't understand exactly why that is. | ||
| There's a number of reasons, but one of them that is never discussed by Alex is that in order to calibrate testing equipment, you need a sample of the thing that you would be testing for in order to assure that this thing works. | ||
| The machine works. | ||
| Just guess. | ||
| Just toss it out there. | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| Seems like it would work. | ||
| That's what I want BioLabs to say. | ||
| Seems like it'll go. | ||
| Hey! | ||
| We're winging it. | ||
| Yay! | ||
| That sounds good. | ||
| This is, like, important high-risk, high-level stuff. | ||
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| And, you know, I think knowing that you need to keep these samples on hand, whether it be for some kind of a test, some kind of an experiment, or some kind of calibration of equipment, you need it to be safe. | ||
| You need it to be secure. | ||
| And that was a large part of the U.S. involvement in these labs that were... | ||
| That already existed. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's not like they're running. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| I mean, the conspiracy mind is that preparation for a disaster is preparation to make the disaster happen. | ||
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| Well, when it's convenient. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| Unless you're preparing for a different disaster that won't happen. | ||
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| Alex sells survival food. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| Is he planning to burn all the crops in America? | ||
| Yes, obviously. | ||
| That's how this conspiracy works. | ||
| It's Monsanto. | ||
| He's trying to do it. | ||
| So, Boyle starts, and he starts bad. | ||
| In six minutes to break, what is your synopsis? | ||
| If you were briefing the world, you are briefing millions right now, about the sum knowledge of what you would call this sleepwalking into Armageddon, or what is it? | ||
| Well, Alex, thank you very much for having me on my best year viewing audience. | ||
| Yes, as I see it, we really have to start with the... | ||
| Promises made by Secretary of State Jim Baker and many of the other NATO leaders that if Secretary General Gorbachev agreed to the unification of Germany, NATO would not move to the east. | ||
| But once Clinton got in there and they proceeded to expand NATO to the east, the promises that Baker and the other European leaders This is bullshit, and Boyle is just repeating things he's heard. | ||
| Gorbachev has given interviews about the negotiations with Baker, and he said that the topic of other countries joining NATO never came up. | ||
| There wasn't an agreement except that NATO troops would not be stationed in East Germany. | ||
| So, we're starting off here on a false premise that only serves to legitimize Putin's argument for invading. | ||
| And to be clear, I'm not necessarily saying that NATO expansion is a positive thing, and I think there's a lot of fine arguments against NATO and how it operates. | ||
| What I am saying is that claiming that NATO agreed to not expand what Gorbachev negotiated with Baker is not true. | ||
| And even if it were, it wouldn't be a justification for invading Ukraine when two other NATO countries already border Russia and Ukraine is not going to be joining anytime soon. | ||
| Like, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, they were, I mean, you could say that NATO is in talks with any country. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or any country that recently joined. | ||
| Like Montenegro joined not too long ago. | ||
| Well, yeah, but everybody's got to take down Montenegro. | ||
| Even NATO is like, well, we're going to go down there. | ||
| We're going to join you. | ||
| The rationalizations and justifications you can make based on believing this are staggering. | ||
| You could just do anything, more or less. | ||
| I mean, what's so insane is when you're like... | ||
| When you're redoing, when you're redrafting past treaties, you're not accounting for the fact that Putin is the fucking president of Russia, man. | ||
| We're dealing with his bullshit, not even really the way he's reacting to treaties in the past or anything like that. | ||
| This is a dude who is a megalomaniacal lunatic who is trying to re... | ||
| Formed the Soviet Union. | ||
| It wouldn't matter if NATO was weaker or stronger. | ||
| And you're imagining some kind of a reality where he hasn't broken treaties. | ||
| Yeah, totally! | ||
| Yeah, what are we doing? | ||
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Now Putin has followed the exact word of the law. | |
| Totally. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Let's really parse his actions in Syria and see how well that holds up. | ||
| So, speaking of treaties, Boyle has some other dumb shit to say. | ||
| In December, as you know, the Russian government submitted two treaties to NATO and to the Biden administration. | ||
| I've read them. | ||
| I won't go through all of them here. | ||
| There was a wish list. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But the bottom line was Russia wanted assurances that Ukraine was not going to join NATO and that NATO would not expand, say, to Moldova. | ||
| And Georgia, which are right there in this area. | ||
| And for two months, the Foreign Minister Laval fruitlessly negotiated with the Biden administration over this. | ||
| And Biden refused, absolutely refused, to make these assurances, which he should have given because... | ||
| They were required by the promises that Jim Baker had made for Bush Sr. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In Boyle's world, Putin is asking for assurances of things that are already established international laws. | ||
| Biden's response doesn't matter. | ||
| However, if Boyle's wrong and all this didn't happen and there wasn't a guarantee, then it's really just Putin making demands and Biden not acquiescing to them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Also, there's a reason that Boyle isn't going into the details about these December treaty demands. | ||
| It's because they're a bit overreaching and some have suggested that they were designed to be rejected to give the appearance of trying to have a diplomatic approach. | ||
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No. | |
| One request is the demand that NATO not expand, specifically to include Ukraine, but also generally to not any other countries. | ||
| The other main request is a little stickier. | ||
| He wanted Biden's shoes now! | ||
| That might have been fine. | ||
| That probably would have been fine. | ||
| This was that they wanted NATO to agree to not deploy any troops or weapons to any country that had joined NATO past 1997. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think they're going to be happy with that one. | ||
| I doubt that one's going to be fine. | ||
| The date was 1997 because that was when an agreement was signed between NATO and Russia called the Founding Act on Mutual Relations, Cooperation, and Security between NATO and the Russian Federation. | ||
| This was an agreement aimed at warming relations and specifically deals with NATO countries not deploying nuclear weapons to member states. | ||
| Also, weirdly, in that document that both NATO and Russia agreed to, it says, quote, NATO has expanded and will continue to expand its political functions and take on new missions of peacekeeping and crisis management in support of the United Nations and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. | ||
| Seems like that shouldn't be in there, based on Boyle's understanding of things. | ||
| Like, why would Russia agree to a document that says NATO has expanded and will expand? | ||
| Well, because they've already paid off the Russian military, and Zelensky is a double agent, Dan. | ||
| It's all making sense now. | ||
| It all started back then in 19... | ||
| 1945. | ||
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Zelensky wasn't president in 97. 1945 is when he first took office. | |
| All right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So the ask that Russia was making at the end of 2021 was a non-starter, because essentially what it would do is make NATO say that these countries that have joined since 1997, here's a list of them, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Albania, Croatia, Montenegro, and North Macedonia, they would all be in the alliance, but also if they were in trouble, NATO wasn't going to be able to help. | ||
| It would basically undermine the entire premise of an alliance and leave all of these countries on their back foot, unprepared for a possible... | ||
| See, there was the thing. | ||
| See, he did the thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That was actually a bit of a game changer from a strategic perspective. | ||
| Now, naturally, this isn't an agreement that Biden is going to accept. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| Even if he wanted to, he couldn't. | ||
| It would be up to NATO. | ||
| They vote. | ||
| Biden doesn't run NATO. | ||
| For Boyle to claim that this was a sincere effort on Putin's part and that there was a rejection of peace on Biden's part is completely absurd and reveals only that he's probably a big consumer of far-right Putin-supporting media. | ||
| He probably reads, information liberation over breakfast. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's nonsense. | ||
| I mean, I find it hard to believe that if Biden were to come out and have capitulated to every demand that Putin made, I find it hard to believe the far right would be like, yay, good work! | ||
| It is a great idea for the leader of our sovereign nation to give in immediately to anything that he wants. | ||
| There would be one faction that's like, you're showing weakness. | ||
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Totally. | |
| And then there would be another faction that's like... | ||
| Ah, he's giving an inch now. | ||
| Putin, take over America. | ||
| And they're going to go back and forth. | ||
| They're so stupid. | ||
| I hate these people. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I hate them. | ||
| So speaking of dumb things, here's another dumb thought Boyle has. | ||
| And I think even today, I'm in favor of stopping the war. | ||
| It could be stopped today if President Biden were to get up and announce and say publicly, yes, Ukraine will not be joining. | ||
| NATO. | ||
| I already said that. | ||
| NATO will not be expanding to the east in Georgia, Moldova, or elsewhere. | ||
| And the rest we're prepared to negotiate, certainly over removing U.S. nuclear weapons for Europe. | ||
| This is so stupid. | ||
| Biden saying that NATO won't expand means nothing. | ||
| He doesn't control that unilaterally. | ||
| And even if he did, I thought the premise of war was supposed to be about denazifying Ukraine or shutting down bioweapon labs or taking back the Donbass region, which is rightfully Russia's and under attack by Ukraine. | ||
| I've lost the plot. | ||
| I don't really know what we're supposed to be justifying anymore. | ||
| See, I feel like if you have these justifications... | ||
| Then before a peace treaty, even including NATO's not going to move all this stuff, it would have to handle the Ukraine situation. | ||
| So if you wanted to have a peace treaty, then you would have to say, okay, well, Ukraine's going to give up its leadership of itself. | ||
| It is going to put everything under the control of Putin. | ||
| It is Russia now. | ||
| And consume only Russian pro-media for as long as it takes for them to stop listening to the West ever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I feel like we're a little bit past that being a take that's gonna work. | ||
| Seems like it's not gonna go. | ||
| I may be a little salty, in part because this is incredibly frustrating to try to pay attention to. | ||
| Like, all these various reasons why this invasion is okay. | ||
| There's no consistency. | ||
| The point changes from day to day, and yet what remains and is ever-present is the insistence that Infowars is totally right and that whatever they're saying today is what they've said all along. | ||
| I know this isn't news, but it's really getting to me a little bit more than usual, and maybe it's because it's about a war. | ||
| Speaking of war, what Boyle is functionally advocating for, like you brought up, is a complete acquiescence to Putin and the surrender of Ukraine to his rule. | ||
| He may not think that that's what he's saying, and he has a bunch of bad arguments to throw around, but the state of affairs he wishes to see is for everyone resisting Putin's invasion of Ukraine to just stop and let him take over the country. | ||
| That's the end result. | ||
| If your thoughts on how to stop the war have nothing to do with Ukraine whatsoever, entirely about NATO not expanding, then you're just saying that Ukraine should be Putin's. | ||
| At this point, for sure. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| So, Boyle brought up that treaty from late last year, and Alex decides to riff on it a little. | ||
| And so it is true that all these treaties expired. | ||
| The U.S. did not want to negotiate and let them expire. | ||
| And so Putin saw this again as, wow, they've cut all their... | ||
| Cold War era and post-Cold War nuclear agreements, they're going to war with us. | ||
| I mean, for people that aren't a diplomat like you, a top diplomat, former diplomat, that's a major provocation. | ||
| I want to get your take on that when we come back and talk about where this is all going. | ||
| But yeah. | ||
| Oh man, a major provocation is totally justified in his actions. | ||
| So what treaties is Alex trying to claim expired? | ||
| He's not specific at all. | ||
| What the fuck is he talking about? | ||
| Oh, he was talking about Danon. | ||
| Danon Treaty of Milk. | ||
| There was a nuclear non-proliferation treaty called the New Start, which began in 2011. | ||
| This was set to run 10 years and would have ended on February 5th, 2022, which would really work well for Alex's argument, but it was extended for an additional five years, so it's still in effect until 2026. | ||
| That agreement was announced in March 2021, and re-signing it and continuing the treaty was a high priority for Biden! | ||
| I don't think that this is what Alex is talking about, but maybe he saw someone reference a fake story about it in a meme, and he just assumed that they didn't extend it or something. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I think what's going on is that Boyle has brought in this bullshit about the demands Putin was making in December, and now Alex is writing a bigger story on top of all of it. | ||
| It's all just an exercise in excusing Putin's invasion of Ukraine. | ||
| That's literally all this show is at this point. | ||
| It's outrageous. | ||
| That is fucked up. | ||
| It's fucked up. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Nothing else to say about that, except for this clip is even more fucked up. | ||
| Great. | ||
| And as I said, they're using Ukraine and the Ukrainians as a battering ram against the Putin government and against the Russian Federation as well. | ||
| Well, I totally agree that this is premeditated, and so it makes the West the bad guys. | ||
| Even if Putin is starting to try not to commit atrocities, but he's going to have to. | ||
| What? | ||
| It looks like as this continues on. | ||
| He's gonna have to. | ||
| Hey, listen. | ||
| When you're fighting a war, sometimes you just have to commit atrocities. | ||
| I mean, I unfortunately think that that is true descriptively. | ||
| But Alex is speaking of this kind of moralistically. | ||
| I think that the carrying out of war... | ||
| Almost always involves atrocity. | ||
| I mean, it is an atrocity. | ||
| Right. | ||
| By definition. | ||
| And that is a good reason to be opposed to war on a general basis. | ||
| Seems like it. | ||
| Alex seems to be, first of all, denying the atrocities that have already taken place. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| That's all fake news, propaganda. | ||
| So that's troubling. | ||
| And then saying, okay, he's going to have to. | ||
| Well, I mean, sometimes you commit atrocities. | ||
| No big deal. | ||
| I don't like that. | ||
| It's a strategic thing. | ||
| You just choose to kill a large number of civilians in order to end the war that you started because Nazis were killing civilians. | ||
| Wait. | ||
| Wait. | ||
| Bioweapon labs. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| No. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So because bioweapon labs were going to kill Ukrainians. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| No. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It's outrageous. | ||
| Alex is just comically pro-Putin. | ||
| But let me ask you this. | ||
| How do you see this gut level ending right now? | ||
| Putin can't save face unless he gets some type of deal. | ||
| Looks like deals aren't coming. | ||
| He's going to have to escalate somehow to try to defeat these embedded Nazi forces that are hiding behind their children. | ||
| So now they're embedded Nazi forces again? | ||
| I mean, how does he thread that needle when all the Western propaganda is against him? | ||
| I really don't know, Alex. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I just, I find it shocking that Boyle just, like, accepts the premise. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're on the same page with this shit. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| Just crazy. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Hey, listen. | ||
| I don't know how he solves this imaginary problem. | ||
| Without escalating. | ||
| Without escalating. | ||
| He's going to have to escalate because the U.S. isn't making a deal. | ||
| No, it's entirely the West's fault. | ||
| And by the way, of course, it's not like Zelensky isn't making a deal. | ||
| He doesn't have a choice. | ||
| He just works for the U.S. Whatever NATO says he'll do because he's going to be... | ||
| Wait, no, he doesn't get to join NATO either. | ||
| Putin desperately wants a deal so he can save face, get out of here with a little bit of strength. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But it's not coming, so he's gonna have to escalate. | ||
| Well, I mean... | ||
| Alex seems, like, legitimately to be preparing his audience to accept, like, some really fucked up stuff. | ||
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| No. | ||
| Genocide. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Absolutely. | ||
| Like, there's no other... | ||
| There's no other solution. | ||
| Great that he's talking to, like, an international law expert on war crimes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's like, that's his idea of real politic, you know? | ||
| Like... | ||
| Okay, well, he's in a bad bargaining position. | ||
| You know, he's losing the war. | ||
| So, he doesn't want to get a deal now, because they won't be good terms for him. | ||
| You understand, Dan. | ||
| He doesn't want a deal right now, because there won't be good terms for him. | ||
| But he does want a deal, according to Alex. | ||
| Well, of course he wants a deal, but he wants a deal with good terms for him. | ||
| So, if he commits atrocities, then the deal might be sweeter for him, and Alex is fine with that. | ||
| Because it's all about the deal, man! | ||
| It's like Alex's ideal ruler is M. Bison from the Street Fighter movie. | ||
| Might be something to that. | ||
| You might not be wrong. | ||
| Anyway, Boyle, like I said, I'm going to sound like a broken record. | ||
| Dude's dumb. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think we have to demand that Biden himself publicly proclaim... | ||
| That Ukraine will not join NATO. | ||
| It did! | ||
| So this is a dumb bullying tactic because the demand is something meaningless. | ||
| The hope is that you have some sort of a meaningless symbolic action that cedes power to the people making that demand vis-a-vis Russia, Putin, and the Putin-aligned propagandists like Alex. | ||
| You got it. | ||
| Also, in June 2021, Biden was asked at a press conference about Ukraine joining NATO. | ||
| And he said, quote, it depends on whether they meet the criteria. | ||
| The fact is they still have to clean up corruption. | ||
| The fact is they have to meet other criteria to get into the action plan. | ||
| So school's out on that question. | ||
| It remains to be seen. | ||
| And it will not just depend on me, whether or not we conclude that Ukraine can become a part of NATO. | ||
| It'll depend on the alliance and how they vote. | ||
| There's a world reality that Biden can't wave his hand and force this group to vote the way he wants them to. | ||
| However, there's an Infowars pretend reality where a big strongman ruler can just do whatever he wants, so the fact that Biden isn't doing these things means he must not want to. | ||
| It's legitimately middle school level shit, and I feel pretty embarrassed for these dudes talking like this publicly. | ||
| And to clarify, Trump was able to do a lot of shit unilaterally, but you might notice that all the stuff he did like that were times when he pulled the U.S. out of something. | ||
| organizations or groups with his strength. | ||
| He just didn't get his way and withdrew, which you can do unilaterally. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Now, you see, that might be an explanation of how they think the world works. | |
| Yeah. | ||
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Trump is like, you have to do what I say. | |
| And they're like, no. | ||
| And he's like, well, then I am going to go back to a world where people have to do what I say and you are not in Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, Alex is deep in this conversation with Boyle about dumb, immature nonsense. | ||
| And by the way, Boyle is a Chicago guy. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, he lives in Illinois somewhere. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| Maybe just outside Chicago or in Chicago. | ||
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Son of a bitch. | |
| I bet he's a Rolling Meadows asshole. | ||
| Come find me. | ||
| I bet he's a Rolling Meadows piece of shit. | ||
| I'm not saying I want to fight him, but I will call him a baby to his face. | ||
| Yeah, oh yeah, totally. | ||
| I would even go so far as to call him a big dumb baby. | ||
| I'm a little bit salty. | ||
| You are. | ||
| So Alex is talking to Boyle. | ||
| They're having this fun conversation, and Alex gets distracted by important breaking news. | ||
| Arnold Schwarzenegger. | ||
| It's just gone live at Infowars.com. | ||
| There's a video of it. | ||
| We're doing the German translation, but he's speaking to them in German, because a lot of them speak German-type dialects. | ||
| Talking about how his father fought the Russians and how they're fighting today. | ||
| So they're not even thinly veiling this now. | ||
| I mean, this is just like Twilight Zone. | ||
| And his dad did fight at Stalingrad and did actually fight in these areas and was in the SS. | ||
| Arnold wasn't speaking German in that video. | ||
| He's speaking Russian. | ||
| He was appealing to the people of Russia in a fairly interesting but probably ineffective way to see the way that Putin is lying to them about what's going on in Ukraine. | ||
| It's not mostly about his dad, though Arnold doesn't hide that his dad was fighting for the Nazis. | ||
| He does literally mention that. | ||
| The video is about Arnold's love for Russia and the people of Russia, like about how his first weightlifting hero was a guy from Russia named Yuri Petrovich Veslov, and how he met Yuri as a 14-year-old boy, and Yuri was very kind to him. | ||
| Arnold's dad didn't like that he idolized Yuri because, as Arnold explains, he was injured in Leningrad, quote, "where the Nazi army that he was a part of did vicious harm to the great city and its brave people." The video touches on how he got to meet Yuri again as an adult when he went to Moscow again It's a very compelling argument that Schwarzenegger has a deeply felt connection to the people of Russia and the country itself. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Something that'll make a real difference. | ||
| I don't know what the complaint about this video is. | ||
| Like, it's definitely less cringe-inducing than other celebrity videos we've seen, and I gotta say that it feels very sincere. | ||
| Like, the memories really do mean a lot to Arnold. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, he was very important to, I think, what was it? | ||
| One of the Mr. Universes that he won was... | ||
| It was broadcast on Russian state TV, and it was one of the biggest things that they'd seen. | ||
| It's such an interesting intersection of his lived experience, too, with this, like, being the son of an Austrian former Nazi soldier who idolized a Russian weightlifter that got him, like, really motivated | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a very... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Obviously, like I'm saying, I don't think it's going to move the needle in terms of world affairs. | ||
| Doubtful. | ||
| But I do think it's a more valuable video to watch than... | ||
| The Imagine video? | ||
| Or that one that was going around about if I was Putin's mom. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You know, like that stuff's nonsense. | ||
| This at least has some substance to it. | ||
| And if only as a sort of moving autobiographical... | ||
| Slice of Arnold's life. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think it's interesting. | ||
| I mean, it did remind me, you know, it's a good message, of course, but it did remind me, like, it went back and I started remembering Arnold Schwarzenegger's life and just going, this man is a cartoon character. | ||
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| This life is not real. | ||
| But also, you kind of, like, watch it and you get, like, you're like, oh, that's kind of why he won the governor. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Like, the gubernatorial race. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| You can kind of get a sense of, like, you forget, like, you see the movies and he's like, right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He has a big, muscly weirdo who shoots people and has a strange accent that's never explained in the movie. | ||
| But yeah, he's a compelling, interesting person. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| I think Alex is still just mad that he couldn't derail that campaign back in 2003. | ||
| He's still just mad at Arnold. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Anyway, important news. | ||
| Arnold put out a video. | ||
| He did. | ||
| We gotta get it. | ||
| We gotta handle it. | ||
| And clearly, the way Alex is talking about it, you can tell he hasn't watched it. | ||
| He doesn't know what this is about. | ||
| He's reporting on what he imagines this video is. | ||
| You know, his dad was a Nazi. | ||
| You know that, right? | ||
| It's worthless. | ||
| Yeah, he talks about that in the video, you dumb fuck. | ||
| If you'd watched it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So anyway, Boyle is... | ||
| I mean, he's somebody who... | ||
| Like I said, he drafted the indictment... | ||
| Or helped draft the indictment against Milosevic. | ||
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| He's somebody who has... | ||
| At least a level of gravitas in terms of the world of international relations. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He should be somebody who understands to be careful with his words. | ||
| And if you wrote Slobodan Milosevic's indictment, you should probably be aware that Putin has got a real good shot at getting awful close to that. | ||
| No, apparently not. | ||
| Apparently it goes the other way. | ||
| Yes, these reports coming out of Ukraine today are fully consistent. | ||
| With the United States government supporting biological warfare against Russia. | ||
| And if you take a look at the map, you'll see large numbers of biological warfare weapons surrounding China. | ||
| So yes, I've read the reports. | ||
| They certainly sound credible to me. | ||
| He's essentially accusing the United States of having biological weapons labs. | ||
| He's literally like, listen, all I'm saying is Iraq should invade America. | ||
| We have WMDs. | ||
| I'm not saying, I'm just saying. | ||
| I'm just saying, I'm not saying, but I'm just saying. | ||
| It gets worse. | ||
| It's justifying. | ||
| This gets worse. | ||
| There's the map. | ||
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| Those are offensive biological warfare. | ||
| Weapons, facilities, they've been bought and paid for by the Pentagon itself. | ||
| You know, the Pentagon does not engage in missionary activity. | ||
| They kill people. | ||
| And that's why those are there. | ||
| I have no doubt about that in my mind. | ||
| Indeed, earlier, I gave interviews to Russian news media about American sources over there harvesting the DNA of materials of Russians. | ||
| And they asked me why, and I said, simple, because they're going to try to create an ethnic-specific biological warfare weapon against Russians if they can figure it out. | ||
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Wow, sounds shady. | |
| Is he telling me that this... | ||
| I bet he doesn't even... | ||
| I bet he didn't even get paid! | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| I bet this motherfucker went and did some fucking propaganda for Putin for free! | ||
| Yeah, seems shady. | ||
| That's bullshit. | ||
| That's... | ||
| I'm furious. | ||
| Shady. | ||
| I'm furious. | ||
| Listen, fine. | ||
| You're a monster, but at least get paid. | ||
| Now you're an idiot and a monster. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Speaking of getting paid, Alex plugs Boyle's books. | ||
| And this is... | ||
| I would have done this differently. | ||
| I want to thank Dr. Francis Boyle for joining us today. | ||
| Everybody should check out his books and his information. | ||
| Just search Francis A. Boyle and find his great compendium of work, especially at Amazon.com. | ||
| What? | ||
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Why are you plugging Amazon? | |
| You can find his work that I don't know at Amazon.com. | ||
| Amazon.com for finding work that I don't know. | ||
| Alex, you hate Bezos. | ||
| Why are you directing traffic to Amazon? | ||
| Like, we had Elizabeth Williamson on, and we were talking about her new book, and very specifically, we made a point to not have the link go to Amazon. | ||
| Didn't go there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because fuck Amazon. | ||
| You know, it's almost like when we say that we hate Jeff Bezos, We then follow through! | ||
| Well, I mean, there's no need to be dramatic and performative about it. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Yeah, functionally, if anybody was going to buy a book based on our recommendation, it would be ideal for them not to do it through Amazon. | ||
| And if we can direct... | ||
| Traffic through a link to another place to get the book. | ||
| Way better. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So why is Alex, who is supposed to be one of Bezos' blood enemies, sworn to one of them must die, why is he trying to get him a cut? | ||
| Dumb. | ||
| Does Boyle not have his own website? | ||
| Where you can find his books? | ||
| I bet he doesn't. | ||
| If you look at the shots of him whenever he's being interviewed, his office is just like piles of paper. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| He looks like he might be all analog, baby. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| I envy that in a certain way. | ||
| So the topic of Mitt Romney comes up. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He's important. | ||
| This is where the interview ends, and I think there's a couple things that are a little problematic for Alex here. | ||
| And the one thing about Romney, you have to remember, he was elected in Massachusetts as a rhino, the only way he could be elected. | ||
| And then he immediately veered to the extreme right in order to lick the boots of the extreme right of the Republican Party. | ||
| I'm not saying the whole Republican Party. | ||
| I'm a political independent. | ||
| But the extreme right and Romney tried to restore the death penalty. | ||
| In Massachusetts. | ||
| Now, we had studied the death penalty, the Sacco-Vanzetti case in Massachusetts there in law school together and knew what a travesty the whole thing was leading Massachusetts to abolish the death penalty. | ||
| We're out of time. | ||
| At bottom line, are you saying he's a sociopath? | ||
| Close to it, yeah. | ||
| I mean, you have to be sick and demented to spend full time like Romney did to restore the death penalty in Massachusetts. | ||
| All right, there's some problems. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| First, there shouldn't be any acknowledgement that there's an extreme right in terms of the political identity of people in government on this show. | ||
| That's not a reality that's accepted. | ||
| There are GOP members of Congress who Alex thinks are liberals. | ||
| Rhinos. | ||
| There are left-wing extremists like AOC. | ||
| And then there's the Trump lunatics who Alex thinks are his old school constitution loving people. | ||
| They're liberals, honestly. | ||
| Basically classic liberals. | ||
| Patriots. | ||
| The extreme right doesn't exist because when you consider who, like, you know, just who comes to mind when Boyle says Because Romney kissed up to the extreme right. | ||
| Who's the extreme right? | ||
| Seems like it might be Trump. | ||
| Oh, it might be Trump. | ||
| The second problem is that Boyle's going hard on the death penalty, which Alex actually supports. | ||
| You'd think he wouldn't because he's so anti-government and he pretends to be a libertarian, but man, he loves the idea of the government killing his enemies. | ||
| Seems like he wouldn't want the government, who you don't trust, who you think is lying all the time, to have the power to kill you. | ||
| Right, and the libertarian non-aggression principle relies so much on the... | ||
| You know, the government not being the sole source of force. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| No, he's fine with the government killing the people he wants them to kill. | ||
| As long as it's only the ones he wants, though. | ||
| It's not an ideal end to this interview, I would say. | ||
| We have a couple clips left here. | ||
| And Alex ends talking to Boyle. | ||
| And here's where he's at. | ||
| And I've got all this other news that I want to get to. | ||
| But I've got to tell you, when I saw this headline earlier... | ||
| I thought it can't be real. | ||
| Then we went and watched it and checked it in the German and the American and how the Ukrainians would then translate it. | ||
| And this is crazy what Schwarzenegger said. | ||
| Hitler, admirer Arnold Schwarzenegger, invokes Nazi father in defense of Ukrainian Nazis. | ||
| The Twilight Zone situation that we've hit. | ||
| I want to play some of that bottom of the hour. | ||
| That's coming up. | ||
| It's on Infowars.com. | ||
| It's just insane. | ||
| No conversation about what's going on in Mariupol. | ||
| Nothing about the situation as it exists in Ukraine. | ||
| The type of news that Alex can cover is complaining about an imagined version of a video that Schwarzenegger put out. | ||
| That's the dull end of the spear that he has. | ||
| It's so stupid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We are kind of in a Twilight Zone episode where like... | ||
| You can show people reality, and they can tell you, they can read word for word back to you what was said, and they will still tell you that Arnold Schwarzenegger was trying to be a Nazi supporter. | ||
| Loves him. | ||
| It is such a, oh, you just don't live in the world, man. | ||
| You just don't live here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So after this, Alex does not talk more about the Arnold video. | ||
| He says we should play some. | ||
| Maybe he gets to it eventually, but... | ||
| For now, he's got to get into a plug. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| I have gotten to the point where I couldn't even do the first hour of the show today because I'm sitting there in these meetings and I'm trying to set up sponsorships and trying to get sponsorships to wire money in just to make payroll. | ||
| And I don't judge myself by how much money I've got and all that kind of stuff. | ||
| It's kind of fun and neat to be so lean as it makes you focus. | ||
| Plus, all our enemies say we've got all this extra money. | ||
| Boy, are they going to get surprised. | ||
| But they already know. | ||
| I like to joke a lot, and we have some laughs, but I want to speak sincerely here. | ||
| I don't believe this shit at all. | ||
| But if this is true, Infowars is the most pathetic organization, and Alex is the worst business owner in the entire propaganda game. | ||
| His number one job is to do his show, which is live from 11 to 2, and then someone else takes over for the last hour. | ||
| There's literally no reason why he can't talk to a potential sponsor before 11 or after 2, except for a couple options that I can think of. | ||
| One, he has absolutely no power in the situation at all, and the potential sponsor is calling all the shots, and Alex has to bend over backwards in order to make a few bucks. | ||
| Yeah, they might even be fucking with him if they're forcing him to take a call while he's on air. | ||
| Possibly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Second option. | |
| Alex has so little interest in doing any work that he's essentially only going to be working from 11 to 2. And if that means doing business while he's supposed to be on air, well, that's why he It's his job. | ||
| Come on, man. | ||
| Third option, he wasn't talking to sponsors. | ||
| He was talking to lawyers or a court who he can't reschedule a meeting with. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I think that might be more likely. | ||
| I'm gonna go with the third option. | ||
| Whatever the case, this is just an embarrassing level of inability to do one's job, and I honestly, I resent it. | ||
| Also, hey, asshole, you just went to LA to do a podcast. | ||
| Do you really expect anyone to feel sympathy for your inability to make payroll? | ||
| Like, have ten less guns, or get rid of a potentially extravagant studio. | ||
| Like, get rid of the weird LED lighting behind you, or don't take a week vacation to another state to do a podcast if you need to make payroll so badly. | ||
| You're overextended. | ||
| Dan, see, this is the problem. | ||
| We have been out of the regular workforce for too long. | ||
| That is how capitalism works, my friend. | ||
| That's the way... | ||
| Every boss I've ever had works. | ||
| Sorry we can't make payroll. | ||
| I am calling you from Hawaii right now, just in case you were wondering. | ||
| I'm sorry I'm going to pay you next week. | ||
| Can't make it this week. | ||
| Reminder? | ||
| Didn't you work for your cousin? | ||
| Well, not every boss, fine. | ||
| I had one boss that wasn't there. | ||
| I have a different work history than you. | ||
| I do not have a lot of familiarity with this. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| I'll tell you this. | ||
| The hearing aid game. | ||
| Real shady. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But look, more and more I find that Alex's sales pitches seem to be like a guy who has a bad business model explaining it. | ||
| That seems to be just like, what's going on? | ||
| Yeah, it does seem a little bit like, hey listen, I am a failure unless you buy this bullshit. | ||
| Look, we were really high in the lead up to Trump and all that. | ||
| Right, we were crushing it. | ||
| We spent too much. | ||
| Way too much. | ||
| I hired too many people. | ||
| Overhead? | ||
| We have too much. | ||
| Rent to pay. | ||
| Never heard of it. | ||
| Our electric bills are through the roof. | ||
| Nobody told me! | ||
| It's almost like autocratic leaders don't like hearing bad news before they make decisions that they want. | ||
| I decided to make this dumb dumb free speech YouTube clone type website. | ||
| And hey. | ||
| There's no ads except for my own shit on there because no one wants to advertise. | ||
| Nobody wants to advertise. | ||
| So this is a sinkhole of money. | ||
| It's a real bad idea. | ||
| A lot of hosting. | ||
| A lot of hosting. | ||
| Costs there. | ||
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It's expensive. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, great. | ||
| I have to pay in order to host the video of the guy who's dressed like Uncle Sam yelling at people on the street. | ||
| But he's great. | ||
| We're changing the world. | ||
| And Harrison Smith has got 200 views on this video. | ||
| I mean, to be fair, look, Harrison doesn't have a lot of views. | ||
| More than that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| More than that. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| If there's any solace, I think that these indications are like, he's not long for this game. | ||
| No, no, no, this is going down. | ||
| He's already exhausted the money that he could get out of Mike Lindell, conceivably. | ||
| Yeah, because Lindell's gone. | ||
| Well, not gone, but he's in the wind. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't know, outside of shady right-wing billionaires, what kind of options he might have. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which, I mean, that's a road that he could go down if he hasn't burned that bridge in some way. | ||
| I mean, isn't Milo Yiannopoulos coming back, too? | ||
| Aren't people paying attention to him in the right-wing sphere again? | ||
| Not really. | ||
| Not really? | ||
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No. | |
| I don't think so. | ||
| Good. | ||
| I think maybe his name came up because allegedly he hooked Marjorie Taylor Greene up with Nick Fuentes for that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Him and Nick Fuentes have a bit of a weird history because Nick... | ||
| Obviously, outright bigot. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Hates gay people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he and Milo, even when Milo was still a gay man, according to him, he was still a Catholic fascist. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so, like, the two of them bonded over their desire for a Catholic dictatorship. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so, like, the two of them, like, now that Milo is a former gay man, according to him, the two of them have less hurdles in terms of their association and their desire to bring about a Catholic theocracy. | ||
| Shouldn't that give you pause for your wanting a Catholic dictatorship if you and the guy next to you who both want the Catholic dictatorship, if one of you were to get power over the other one, the other one would die? | ||
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Well, not anymore. | |
| Well, not anymore, I understand. | ||
| But back then, wouldn't you be like, hmm, maybe this whole Catholic dictatorship is a bad idea if the guy that I like would kill me. | ||
| I don't know how you get there, but yeah, it'd be weird. | ||
| It seems weird. | ||
| It'd be weird. | ||
| It'd be tough. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think Milo is rising back to any real importance within that scene. | ||
| But who knows? | ||
| Who does know? | ||
| So look, this show is a disgusting exercise in Putin apologia, and it's... | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| I don't know why we came back to the present. | ||
| You know, I... | ||
| The past was substantially more enjoyable, made me less salty. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I am amazed. | ||
| I really am amazed. | ||
| Like, it would feel bad for me to make justifications for any large-scale murder. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I think it would make me feel bad. | ||
| Right. | ||
| To do it with this gusto seems... | ||
| I mean, in a very neutral term of the word, awesome. | ||
| It is awe-inspiring. | ||
| It is... | ||
| Like, how? | ||
| How is this possible? | ||
| And the thing that I think is really fascinating, too, is that there's that mixture of gusto and pretending to be like, I'm just looking at all sides. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| I'm not defending Putin's actions. | ||
| Yeah, it's a de facto admission that you know what he's doing is wrong. | ||
| You could read it that way. | ||
| Yeah, you could. | ||
| It's a cowardly gusto, which is not something you see all too often. | ||
| Yeah, Brooks. | ||
| Anyway, the show sucks. | ||
| Yep, it sucks. | ||
| Sucks butts. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We'll see what's happening later, though. | ||
| And we'll be back for another episode. | ||
| Possibly something fairly fun on Wednesday. | ||
| Maybe something wacky. | ||
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Could be. | |
| Who knows? | ||
| But until then, we have a website. | ||
| We do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| We're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight, and I go to bed Jordan. | ||
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Yep. | |
| We'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| I'm Dr. Marbles. | ||
| Here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |
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