In Knowledge Fight #660, Dan Friesen and Jordan Holmes dissect Alex Jones’ February 11, 2014, episode—pre-Trump—where he falsely claimed Obama’s Monticello remarks hinted at tyranny, baselessly accused law enforcement of demonizing gun owners via drills (debunked by unrelated exercises), and promoted discredited "Health Ranger" Dr. Ed Group’s quackery, including urine therapy and debunked conspiracy ties like his father’s alleged Saran Wrap invention. Jones’ shifting stances—from mocking supernatural claims to endorsing them as metaphorical—highlight his pattern of amplifying fringe theories while dismissing critics as part of a "globalist" narrative, revealing a consistent reliance on fearmongering and pseudoscience to sustain his extremist worldview. [Automatically generated summary]
So they are bringing back Fooli Cooley for a third and fourth season.
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Absolutely.
Because when you start saying to people, okay, there's a giant iron.
Sometimes it turns into a manga.
Foolie Cooley might just mean rubbing tits together.
Nobody knows.
Anyways, the important part is that a woman hits a man in the face with a Rickenbacher bass and mechas come out of it that they then have to fight the universe with.
Obviously, this is a coming-of-age tale about a young boy experiencing puberty.
We're recording this on Thursday, so I'm not sure if he actually got back to studio today or whatever, but we'll get back to the present day on Monday.
But for now, we are back still, not in the present, we're in the past.
And today, we actually, delightful little bit of a request time travel episode.
Keith reached out to me, his wife Laurel, is celebrating a 40th birthday next week.
I also will admit there is a failing in my research, and that is that I didn't look into it to see if it's a common side effect of techniodine that Kurtz.
There is Obama telling the French socialist president who's completely above the law.
And the entire French socialist leadership is on record having giant Swiss bank accounts that are tax exempt as they raise taxes on the middle class to 100 plus percent to claw back any savings that were kept back under the old 80 plus percent tax rate.
And let's hear that one more time.
Obama, I can do whatever I want.
Best part about being president is I can do whatever I want while he's walking along talking to the French delegation and the French president.
So, what had happened is that Obama was accepting a state visit from then French president Francoise Holland, which began with a tour of Thomas Jefferson's home at Monticello.
When he said that they were breaking protocol, that was in reference to wanting to go to the terrace to look at the view, which wasn't part of the planned tour.
Right.
Of course, because Obama joked about how he was the president, he could do whatever he wants.
Alex takes this deadly seriously, as opposed to him joking around about not sticking to the bullet points of the tour.
But one of the things that I think is really fascinating about this is the way that Alex doesn't seem to take as much issue with the people dressing like hobos, the men dressing like hobos.
I don't want to ruin it, but there was actually a Mandela effect kind of thing for me on this episode about a movie that is similar to what you're experiencing with the 40-year-old virgin, I believe.
Ladies and gentlemen, the Washington Times and others are reporting.
Here's the headline: Gun owners beware.
D.C. man faces jail for having empty shotgun shell.
They SWAT team raid the successful businessman with no criminal record, including misdemeanors.
Pointed guns at him and his wife, roughed him up, pulled the 16-year-old out of the shower, tore the place apart.
He kept his guns in another home outside D.C.
But they found a spent shotgun case, shotgun shell, plastic, and they are charging him, and he faces multi-years in jail, at least a one-year incarceration, and D.C. says they're going to throw the book at him.
So Wittishek was going through a divorce in 2012, and his estranged wife complained to the police on multiple occasions that he had threatened her with a gun.
This led to two police visits, during both of which they found illegal ammunition in his possession.
The items found in the first visit weren't able to be brought into the case because the police didn't have a warrant, though Wittishek did consent to a search of his house.
In D.C., only people with registered guns can possess ammunition.
So the shotgun shell, along with a box of muzzle loader bullets, were a problem.
Couldn't own those.
Ultimately, he ended up getting sentenced to time-served, being on a firearm registry, and getting a $50 fine.
All in all, this probably seems like a bit of an overreaction and a waste of people's time, but ultimately, it's probably good that the allegations of threats of murderous domestic violence were taken seriously.
Threats like the ones alleged by Witteshek's ex-wife are often ignored and they lead to tragedies.
Seems like a rare case where police acted.
And there's something to be said for that.
This wasn't actually the biggest problem that Wittesek had to worry about, though.
Also, as part of the fallout from his divorce, his ex-wife provided D.C. officials with some tax documents about Witteshek's business.
Anyway, the point here is that there's more to this story than the way Alex is reporting it.
It's important when you're doing these kinds of gun martyrdom presentations that you present the central character as being as blameless as possible.
There's no room for nuance because you need it to be black and white, an open and shut case where the person is having their guns taken for no reason, and the state's actions are solely motivated by a tyrannical desire to take everyone's guns.
That's why when Alex does decide to touch on why the raid happened, here's how he puts it.
It was a disgruntled family member who dropped a dime, not an estranged wife in the middle of an ugly divorce who alleged this dude had threatened her multiple times with a gun.
Recognizing that would cast too much of a shadow on this story and risk making the gun martyr not look as blameless as he needs to look for this kind of narrative to work.
You don't want to deal with the realities of this stuff.
You can't let your audience know that this guy was accused of threatening his wife with a gun on multiple occasions, and that's why the police came in the first place.
I mean, it's at the point where the real lesson of stories like they should be that guns shouldn't be outlawed.
It should be outlawed for men to have guns and women should have to hold a gun pointed towards a man's face in every interaction because this is fucking nuts.
And maybe it's not that big of a deal that he has a box of muzzle-loading bullets.
Maybe that's not.
Maybe that is fitting to just be like, hey, here's a $50 fine, and this is going to go in a record because, you know, on the off chance that someone else says that you threatened them with a gun, we can now establish a pattern or something.
He's introduced a very bizarre position about the relative evilness of past governments and empires, but this is the extent of his conversation about it.
I hear a clip like that, and all I want is more specifics.
Like, what countries are in the 20% that weren't total evil tyrannies?
What's the differentiating factor between them?
It seems like this is a conclusion he's pretending to have reached after deep research.
So I want to hear about what he's learned.
But instead, all I get is this meaningless platitude that really is just an expression of Alex's opposition to the idea of government, though he's too cowardly to be an anarchist.
And they train where the school teachers are conservative gun owners, so they bioweapon the town and start shooting everyone.
And they're training as if this is the new scenario.
This article drug links to the Media Trackers article that's a big article.
But the original is WSAZ out of Ohio.
And then the examiner says feds identify Second Amendment activists as terrorists.
Yeah.
And what's really going on is the scripting.
This is what a re-education camp looks like on a mass scale, where in the dramas, the TV shows, the movies, the cartoons, the bad guys, the child molesters, the meth dealers, the child kidnappers, the torturers, the devil worshipers, the people that are going to blow the school up, are all the gun-owning patriots that like George Washington.
Literally, if you watch television, you see it.
It's just everywhere.
Bone-chilling.
Now, this was going on secretly under Clinton when we discovered it and got classified secret documents and made national news with it.
Now, and I've told you this the last five years, it's operational.
They've gone public with it.
Do you know what that means?
They're not doing this behind the scenes, ladies and gentlemen.
They're rolling it out in almost every drill now of attacks on shopping malls and attacks on schools.
And we've covered this, you know, the AP's covered it, where the homeschoolers in Michigan, all over the state, they call out the elementary kids, blow up a bus or a car that Homeland Security pays for, scare the kids, don't even tell them it's a drill, and then that people in Camo come up and say, I'm for homeschooling and the Second Amendment.
I'm going to blow your brains out.
And the kids get totally traumatized, and the police go, we only know about the ones where the parents freak out and sue.
So the Michigan story we've talked about in the past, so I'm going to hold off on that.
I remember that one.
The story that Alex is talking about at the beginning of this clip that's inspiring all of this is out of Portsmouth, Ohio, where the Ohio Army National Guard 52nd Civil Support Unit, in conjunction with local first responders, held a drill where the scenario was, quote, two school employees who are disgruntled over the government's interpretation of the Second Amendment plot to use chemical, biological, and radiological agents against members of the local community.
The motivation behind this specific scenario was to maintain awareness that not all terrorism is foreign-based and that domestic terrorism does exist.
That's the reason they use that as part of the scenario.
Alex lets something really interesting slip towards the end of that clip, though.
He's saying that all the training exercises use right-wing Second Amendment supporters as the villains in their scenario because this is about training the police and the public to look at them as evil terrorists.
But then Alex admits that he only knows about the exercises where the parents freak out and sue or something.
Alex doesn't know anything about this topic except the cases that he sees reported in the media that he consumes.
He reads exclusively extreme right-wing news sources, and they only report on these training exercises when there's an opportunity to create right-wing victimhood narratives.
And thus, the image that Alex gets from the media he consumes is that every or almost every exercise involves branding patriots as terrorists.
But that's not true at all.
A ton of the scenarios that the National Guard groups do every year have to do with natural disasters where there's not even a human villain involved.
But beyond that, if you go through their press release archive, you can find plenty of examples from the timeframe that Alex is talking about here even that don't fit his mold.
In August 2013, the New York National Guard ran a scenario exercise where they had a chemical fallout, but it wasn't due to any terrorism.
It was because of an accidental train derailment.
Alex probably didn't hear too much about that or how people were scared.
In July 2013, the North Carolina National Guard did an exercise that was based on training their rapid response team and involved dealing with protesters who were having a sit-in at a water treatment facility.
The fake protest group they had in that one was called the Pink Panthers, and they were very much coded as a left-wing organization.
Alex probably didn't see that reported in Drudge, and so he doesn't know it exists.
In 2014, the South Carolina National Guard did an exercise called Objective Indigo, which had to do with terrorist groups taking hostages, but they weren't right-wing patriot gun owner groups or anything.
Another example is the yearly exercise that Northcom runs called Vibrant Response, where a simulated nuclear attack happens, and first responders practice responding to things that are likely to come up.
In that scenario, there isn't even usually a need for a specific person or group behind the bombing because the focus is on the immediate response, like dealing with the wounded and what have you.
There's no real need for a larger storyline.
Sometimes people running these exercises add a villain, you know, to give it more flavor, but it doesn't necessarily always happen.
To Alex's perception, it very well may seem like every scenario-based exercise that law enforcement or the National Guard does involves maligning people like himself.
But that perception isn't based on reality.
It's the product of him taking in only extreme right-wing news, where the only time he ever hears a story reported about scenario training exercises, it's someone crying bloody murder about how a fictitious right-wing domestic terror group is part of the exercise in question.
All the other ones, scenarios based around natural disasters or accidents, scenarios where the threat is a left-wing group, scenarios where the villain is a nondescript foreign terror group.
All of these don't exist in Alex's reporting because he doesn't know or doesn't care that they exist.
The media that he's taking in drives home the message he wants to hear, and he in turn repeats and solidifies that message to his audience as if it's the product of research when it's just regurgitating bullshit that he skimmed on Drudge.
Sure, but I mean, at the same time, there is another option, which is that it has been an immensely effective strategy for it, even the slightest fictional hint of gun ownership being questioned to shriek bloody murder as loud as you possibly can.
Like the MIAC document was so reasonable and borderline restrained of like, well, you know, they killed the most cops ever, but what, you know, there are butts, that kind of thing.
And they freaked the fuck out over it.
That's true.
Like even the slightest notion.
And it's effective because it's kept us from, I mean, it's illegal to study how many people cops kill every day.
So I think that clip also illustrates something really strange in Alex's worldview, and that is a deep desire to impose harsh censorship on people who don't agree with him.
I didn't watch the short-lived and not very well-received Green Lantern animated series he's talking about, but I know well enough that the premise of the character, and I know that the villains in it weren't Second Amendment patriot types who wear tricorn hats.
So I would guess that there's like one episode of that show where some villain of the week is similar enough to Alex's militia weirdo identity, and he can claim that it's an attack on him.
And this is completely unacceptable to Alex.
Anytime the characteristics he associates with himself are used to depict a villain in a show, that's secretly the government pre-programming the people to be against him.
It's basically an attack.
So what's the solution to that?
I guess the only thing that makes sense for Alex to support would be making a rule that villains in TV shows and cartoons and books and movies can't have any characteristics that make them similar to right-wing extremists or gun and militia weirdos.
I guess another explanation for knowing where Bill is keeping his cocaine is because, I don't know, let's just say that Bill does a daily radio show where he works really hard to scare the shit out of his audience and then kind of poke them closer and closer to thinking that maybe keeping their cocaine in a certain place is the solution to all their problems.
Maybe Bill has a weird track record of denying that people like himself are capable of keeping their cocaine in a specific location and that anytime there's any clear instances of someone like him stashing cocaine in that specific location, it was a globalist setup.
Maybe at that point, Bob would get a sense that maybe Bill likes to keep his cocaine in that location.
I mean, it seems like a strong, suspicious kind of thing.
Anyway, this is kind of the larger point of some of Alex's shit.
He would love to ban all criticism of people like himself, but because that's just not possible and his brand doesn't really allow him to openly advocate for that, these TV shows get used to preemptively declare that anyone who is similar to Alex, has similar beliefs to Alex, possibly enjoys Alex's work.
Anyone like that who's accused of committing a violent act is just a globalist set up to make Alex and the Patriots look bad.
That's why they did the TV shows to begin with, so they could pull off this tarnishing of Alex's character, which seems like a lot of work.
It's smart of Alex to do stuff like this, though, particularly at this point, because a few months after this episode is recorded, Jared and Amanda Miller, two big InfoWars fans, killed three people, including two cops in Las Vegas.
In May 2012, Jared had written a post on InfoWars' website.
But on this message board, he'd posted a blog post titled, quote, The Police to Kill or Not to Kill, where he discussed being on probation for selling weed.
He was having difficulty in his life and was particularly concerned at the idea that the police would show up to his house for a search, most likely because he was not allowed to own guns, but had a lot of guns.
His post strongly mirrors a lot of Alex's ideas, too.
Quote, I do not wish to kill police.
I understand that most of them believe they're doing the right thing.
Yet I will not go to jail because I have not committed a crime.
I would rather die than be labeled as a criminal.
Let them call me a terrorist.
Let them label me a fanatic, some nut job.
I know the truth and so does God.
I'm sure our founding fathers were labeled as such.
Call me a radical.
I'll wear that badge with pride because America is a radical idea.
One of the most repeated points from Alex's documentaries is an out-of-context drop of someone at a government seminar saying the founding fathers were terrorists.
Which Alex uses as a claim that the government hates anyone who believes in the Constitution.
And that message is echoed in this guy's post.
The post itself concludes, quote, It is our duty as American citizens to stand against tyranny, to stand against corruption at all levels.
How did this happen?
The Patriots like me could be resting under the boot of tyrants.
And as I plead for help from my fellow Americans, they just walk on by, all the while thinking at least it's not happening to me.
Yet the sad thing is, it's happening to them.
So do I kill cops and make a stand when they come to get me?
I would prefer to die than sit in their jail when I've done nothing to hurt anyone.
Alex knows the reality that there's a not insignificant part of his audience that's like that, that are right on the edge of committing violent acts.
Thankfully, most of them don't end up following through with them, but Alex does need a built-in excuse for the ones that do.
And he builds that excuse by complaining about TV shows being predictive programming that are set up to make it look like people who are his fans would do things like kill cops.
And of course, after Jared and Amanda killed those three people, Alex immediately called it a false flag because that's the payoff for the work that he's doing here in February, being able to feign ignorance and like, oh, oh my, whenever your audience commits acts of domestic terrorism.
Another founding member was Ravilo P. Oliver, who was forced to step down from membership in the JBS in 1966 because he was such an ardent white nationalist and anti-Semite that he made them look bad.
He would go on to be a part of the National Alliance and be an inspiration for William Luther Pierce when he was writing the Turner Diaries, which is essentially the Bible for white supremacist terrorists.
Also, Pierce himself was a bircher for a while before he needed to seek out something stronger.
Willis Cardo, the complete piece of shit anti-Semite racist founder of the Liberty Lobby, was a bircher, as was Tom Metzger, the neo-Nazi founder of the White Aryan Resistance and one-time grand wizard of the Klan.
The John Birch Society actually is 100% just good upstanding people if you pretend all the examples of really high-level monsters don't exist.
All the examples of real serious shitheads and influential shitheads.
You're not just talking about like some, like, oh, there was a racist in the group who posted bad things on Twitter.
No, Tom Metzger, Ravilo P. Oliver, William Luther Pierce.
Yeah, I do appreciate that the rich have so overwhelmingly destroyed and dominated our media that they're like, that we're all like, oh, man, shoplifting is wrong.
And then John Birch Society filled with the nicest people in the world.
Sure.
They're almost 40% responsible for climate change by themselves.
And it's essentially his entire explanation for why he ended up killing three people a few months after this episode.
He's really clear in his post that he feels like his constitutional rights have been violated and that if he fights back, they'll call him a radical, but they only call him a radical because he's standing up for what's right.
He never says that the idea of killing cops is his way of commencing 1776, but he might as well.
To be clear, I don't think that there's a direct line between Alex's comments on this specific episode and Jared's rationalization for why it was necessary for him to kill three people.
I'm saying that the consistent content on Alex's show and the editorial perspective as a whole informed Jared's rationalization for why it was necessary for him to kill three people.
And this clip is just one of a litany of examples that fade into the extremist background.
And it's like, you guys are playing into something that whether or not it's intentional, it's like that void that you're talking about is like, well, now you're going to try and create mass shootings out of it or something.
Yeah, dude, like the sheriff of Liberty County, Florida.
He read the statute on air with us.
I read the statute when he got arrested.
The sheriff.
And it said if someone's going to or from work or transporting money, they can have a concealed firearm in the vehicle for their security without a permit.
But if you feel that they were transporting it outside of that, it's written where they can decide.
Written, it's a bad statute.
He said, listen, you arrested this guy with no criminal record for a gun coming from his work.
Let him go.
He said to his deputies, you want to carry guns off duty too, don't you?
It's just weird that this guy, Finch, the sheriff, overstepped his authority in a very brazen way in order to get one guy out of prison for a concealed carry violation.
The right-wing really turned him into a hero about it.
And then he sort of just dropped the story.
And a few years later, the guy who he unilaterally let out of prison murdered a guy.
You know, you bring up all of these examples, and you think it doesn't change the truth, which is that everyone should have a gun all the time on them, pointed at everybody else.
And if you're going to do an argument, you should fire.
Yeah, no, I mean, well, in order to be a constitutional sheriff, your thoughts have to begin with the place the founding fathers loved giving unilateral authority to one person.
And the minute, the reason I'll come after this when they say the false flag, and I know that, is they know we've got reporters and myself and auxiliary reporters around the country that are going to go to their press conferences when they stage a Boston bombing or an event.
We're going to have our people there in hours.
We're going to expose the drills, the setup.
We're going to get the photos the FBI says don't look at.
They had Secret Service when Obama wasn't even there come and threatened Dan Badanti with all sorts of bodily harm if he kept asking questions in the press conference about the drill.
And the FBI looked to the media and they said, You do not talk to this man or look at his photos.
And the media literally saluted, except a few national media came over and said, We know it's a drill.
If they were, if there was an element of madness or anger, it is totally warranted because functionally, what his disrupting of this press conference is doing is making it more difficult for the officials to communicate with the public when providing that information to the public is an essential piece of trying to make people feel safe, trying to navigate this really difficult period.
And so, you know, the functional, the effect of Badanti's action is actually impeding their ability to govern appropriately.
I take his sourcing that seriously, which is not at all.
So that story seems really extreme, but for what it's worth, I can actually find a number of stories about this on Fox, The Washington Times, and even some more even less credible right-wing sources.
And they report on this alleged meeting at Fort Hood where soldiers were told they can't donate to tea parties or evangelical Christians.
The problem is that after these claims came up, an internal investigation began at Fort Hood, and they found that this whole story was fake.
The outcome of the investigation wouldn't be known until October 2013, though.
And by that point, Alex and his weirdo friends had months of free time to run with this completely fake story, which was accepted as truth by the audience.
When you were in before you got out a year ago, were you ever part of these drills?
Because I've been to them that are public where they train to fight guys that literally have beards and wear John Deere hats.
Basically, they train to fight Hank Williams Jr.
Were you ever part of that?
Did you ever hear about any of those drills?
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I was never a part of those drills, but we did have a company come in from doing a video for West Point, and they actually asked some of us to go and work with this film crew and stuff because we have a large National Guard base about 10 minutes from my house where my unit used to be at.
And we had this little training town that was out there in the middle of the woods.
And we'd go out there and they'd make videos of us kicking outdoors and all sorts of other stuff for training videos.
I talked to an active duty Navy SEAL that's friends of the family.
I'll leave it at that.
Weeks after it happened, I've had family of people that died in the helicopter that was blown up on saying they know it was set up to kill their family and they were killing the Navy SEALs were sent in on a bin Laden body double.
We even know the guy's name.
And now, today, they've come out, and it turns out the Pentagon claimed they had photos of it and video and all this stuff.
And then, quote, when they were ordered to reclassify it, it was, quote, all destroyed.
Oh, doesn't seem to care because it doesn't exist.
But yeah, I think you have an interesting presentation here because Alex is playing that sort of mid-game here where he's not overtly denying all of the death.
If you're saying that the parents of the killed children who are the ones who are speaking out about this are actors, then the implication of that is their kids didn't actually die.
This is where it leaks out where the military is training with police to take on gun owners, veterans, and billing them as terrorists in the drills where they shoot, blow up schools, release bioweapons because, quote, they're mad about the Second Amendment being repealed.
And they're going to be a lot of people.
I'll imagine it's going to be about 5% at first that refuse to turn their guns in openly.
Most people will just quietly won't do it.
I'd say half.
Then they're going to start persecuting gun owners as they're already doing.
And then a civil war is going to break out.
And that's what the globalists have already scripted and prepared, like a PR rollout.
And I mean, no one should want to be part of this.
This is horrible.
But they've got to do this to cover up the economic collapse they've engineered so they don't get in trouble.
This is a plan, folks, and we're just getting so close to it.
This is dumb, if only because a civil war would almost immediately wipe out whatever financial gains these people made by way of their crimes.
But you can see this as a detective style conspiracy.
There's no supernatural elements.
There's no devil working behind the scenes.
There's no prophetic visions.
There's no battle between good and evil where the goal is ascending to the stars.
This is about using half-cooked ideas to defend a destructive political ideology that Alex wants to push.
This and like the Mason caller seems so foreign to Alex's present day content where everything's about demons and how everyone who disagrees with him is a pedophile.
I mean, on the other hand, you know, when your brain's already that broken, what happens whenever it breaks again?
It just keeps, he's gone weirder.
It hasn't fixed him like a, like if it would be great if the worst thing that's happened to human beings while we're alive would have been like a fucking frying pan to the forehead in a cartoon and he'd wake up and be like, holy shit, it's time to fix it.
I can finally see, you know, like that kind of thing.
Oh, man, what an amazing prediction David Icke totally made, which totally came true.
Yep.
Whatever.
So weird also to see that the Great Awakening is happening in full force in 2014 that Alex is currently in 2022 yelling about how the Great Awakening is beginning in response to COVID restrictions.
It's almost like the idea of a Great Awakening happening is just a consistent element of people like Alex and David Icke's branding.
And it's so vague of an idea that it can just be trotted out whenever you want to create the image that your side is secretly winning.
It's really cool stuff and not at all the sign of shithead manipulators.
Look, I do think that there's a real downward trajectory that you can see of Alex being like, I have to differentiate myself from this guy who's clearly insane to being like, fuck it.
He's got a big audience.
I'm going to warm up to him and try and keep my distance by being like, well, is he right about everything?
No, but he's right about some things.
And then now finally, like, I'm just going to steal wholesale most of his shit.
Yeah, Alex is making that up because he knows his audience isn't going to read a textbook to check up on his claim.
I like the introduction of Nephilim skulls, though.
That's pretty exciting.
So what's going on here is that UFO and conspiracy message boards have been circulating images of these skulls that were found in the Paracas region in Peru and just making up that DNA testing had been done on them and showed that they weren't human.
A lot of folks just accepted the claims, the DNA testing and stuff at face value, like Alex is, because the skulls were elongated and slightly conical in nature.
It made them look possibly alien.
In the real world, the skulls had that appearance because they were from members of a community that practiced artificial cranial deformation.
This is achieved by exerting force on a child's skull before it fully hardens.
And there's a number of theories as to why people did this, ranging from ideas about beauty to the promotion of in-group cohesion.
Whatever the motivation, what's going on here is that Alex saw a meme that made a completely fake claim that DNA testing had been done to prove these skulls had extraterrestrial origins.
And he did literally no work past that point before turning it around and repeating it to his audience as fact that things are going crazy.
And not only that, he seems to be implying that the act of accepting that these skulls are alien Nephilim is somehow a sign of being awake, which is just pathetic.
Hopefully David Icke sets him straight on some of this stuff.
So when we were talking here a little bit about the trajectory of Alex's relationship with David Icke, I think when you're listening to this episode, it becomes painfully clear that like, all right, Alex isn't really talking about demons so much in these past episodes.
The rabbit hole is so deep that if we're only looking at things like banking scams and engineered wars and engineered terrorist attacks, et cetera, which is very, very important to expose.
But we're still walking around the edge of the rabbit hole.
This is so deep.
And we have to, I would suggest, open our minds to the fact that there are forces at work in the unseen, which Christians call demons, which Islamic believers call jinn, which other people call archons, other people call flyers in Central America, the shaman.
It's not just really rich people who want to cover up their financial scams by taking away guns in order to prompt gun owners to start shooting at them and then cause a civil war and everyone will forget about the financial crimes.
There's unseen demons, jinns, and archons.
See, this is just Alex in the future, his point.
And Alex is, I want to play this next clip really quick before you respond, because Alex isn't really fully like, yeah, fuck yeah, buddy.
He's greasing the skids in order for people to get down into this while at the same time trying to pretend that like, hey, I'm not the one saying there's demons because then it looks really bad.
You know, I think it's so weird and funny and like kind of strange that these types of people, one of their arguments is like, look, there have been things like this that have popped up in every human civilization.
That means that humans must have contact with it somewhere in our memories or something along those lines.
And it doesn't make sense to people to just be like, no, shitheads like Alex Jones and David Icke and those people have been around since the very beginning, claiming that demons are the reason behind all of your fucking problems.
The human brainwave activity operates at a certain frequency band.
If you can access that frequency band with information delivered electromagnetically and electrically, then you are putting thoughts and perceptions and beliefs, perceptions of reality into that system.
And the person is having thoughts and feelings and coming to conclusions that they think are their own conclusions, but they're not.
And anything that's got smart in front of it is part of that grid.
But if we're all the same, then it would really be impossible to fine-tune mind control, and you'd really only be able to do population-level brainwashing with this.
That said, I think that the way Alex is describing the devil here is a bit more responsible in terms of like, hey, maybe it's not a real physical being or a transdimensional being, but it's just my artful metaphorical way to describe that people are bad.
Now, for the balance of the hour, we're joined here by Dr. Ed Group, GlobalHealingCenter.com.
I'm not going to go through all his laurels and titles and the rest of it, but he has a lot of gravitas, and he's not here to do a big InfoWarsLife.com pitch today, though.
This is 100% a placebo, and I am making this all up for my own benefit.
Otherwise, I would have to confront the fact that my products do nothing.
Because it seems really strange that the substance would have like completely contrary when people sell you a pill or a drink or something, and then you ask them what it does, and then they're like, What do you think it does?
And then they just agree with you, it doesn't do that.
Like the idea that he's supposed to be a doctor, and it took him weeks of research to come up with this list where the number one thing is to drink water.
Yeah, you need to drink clean water and breathe clean air, but we have a political set that will like a policy set that wants to make it intensely expensive for you to be able to access clean water or clean air.
I actually woke up to it in a weird way because I had studied pharmaceuticals and everything, and I was kind of brainwashed into calling everybody else a quack until I met somebody.
Originally, I wanted to be a medical doctor and be a heart surgeon.
That was my dream.
And that's what I was studying.
And I was brainwashed.
I met a guy that was treating cancer naturally, and we kind of got into a little argument.
You know, I was brainwashed to think that natural medicine was all quackery and stuff like that.
And he looked at me.
He said, he knew I had a background in chemistry and biochemistry.
And he said, fine, I'm not going to argue with you.
Pick any prescription drug you want and tell me how that does any good on the body.
I said, all right, that's not a problem at all.
I mean, we wouldn't have prescription drugs if they weren't good for us.
So I went to the library, brought out all the biochemical books, chemical books, took a couple prescription medications, broke them down chemistry-wise, looked at how they work on the body.
And in about two hours, I realized that was my wake-up call.
That's when just like everything opened up.
I saw it.
I had like a vision, and I saw the damage that was being done worldwide with pharmaceuticals that they're not designed to do anything but cover up a symptom.
Dr. Group may or may not have finished getting an undergraduate degree from Southern Louisiana University, which doesn't even have a pre-med track for students to study.
So it seems unlikely he really was on his way to becoming a heart surgeon or that he had any formal training in pharmacology.
After this, he went to Texas Chiropractic College, where he got a degree as a chiropractor.
The rest of his degrees are fake degrees that he's paid for, generally ones that are available correspondents.
So it's just basically, hey, I'll give you a degree.
Dr. Group doesn't know shit, and the stuff that he's saying is really dangerous.
There are so many prescription medications that are critically important for people dealing with a wide range of conditions.
Just because big pharma is so detestable and because there are problems with doctors over-prescribing some things, that's not a cause to pretend that literally no medication does anything.
Plus, this is a guy who wants you to drink piss.
In his mind, drinking piss has more medicinal benefit than any prescription medication ever produced.
I always try to resist the urge to make fun of how somebody talks, you know, because there's some regional dialects that are maligned and what have you.
But there's a part of Dr. Group that doesn't really sound like a southern person from Louisiana.
I don't know what he was doing when the Reagan administration.
I know he was involved with the drug war, putting something in the chemicals they were using to make cocaine with.
And recently, I know when he died, it was a very fast death.
And I was always wondering, because I remember a group of people that like all these guys showed up in my mom's house with these documents and forcing her to sign this stuff.
Yeah, I mean, there's, you know, I wonder also if the research that he found that his dad was about to put out was everyone needs to drink their own piss.
If that was the information that he found that his dad was going to go public with.
All right, so now we get back to the health secrets.
I was looking at the toilet the other day and I was drinking a nice tall glass of distilled water with apple cider vinegar in it, and I thought I could pour one of these into the other and no one would know.
I genuinely want somebody to be like, today we have Dr. Group we're interviewing and then cut to that meme video of the baby ape peeing into his own mouth and being like, yeah, you nailed it, buddy.