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Feb. 28, 2022 - Knowledge Fight
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#653: February 25, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan continue to track Alex's shameful coverage of the invasion of Ukraine.  Also, the gents deconstruct how Alex's video about predicting the invasion last year is a manipulative lie. Citations

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a
alex jones
21:32
d
dan friesen
52:12
j
jordan holmes
16:35
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l
leo zagami
00:44
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steve quayle
00:01
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
It's time to pray.
unidentified
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your world.
unidentified
KnowledgeFight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to KnowledgeFight.
unidentified
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
unidentified
Dan.
dan friesen
Hey, Jordan.
Dan.
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot today is it's my turn.
Horizon Forbidden West.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
Started playing it.
jordan holmes
So good.
dan friesen
So good.
jordan holmes
So good!
dan friesen
We were talking a little bit before we started recording, and one of the things that I was really questioning was whether or not it would live up to fairly high expectations that I had.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And I'm not super far into the game, but so far it has exceeded those expectations, which is surprising.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah.
dan friesen
So we have a no-spoilers policy, of course.
But yeah, it's great.
I'm having a great time.
jordan holmes
Oh no, the moment you'd started, you texted me something about it, and I texted you immediately back like, I slid beneath the legs of a Tyrannosaurus Rex, slow motion fired an electrical arrow, and the thing blew up, and it was the most satisfying experience I've had in so long.
dan friesen
They added some new mechanics, too, that are really interesting.
jordan holmes
It's great.
dan friesen
Yeah, a lot of fun.
jordan holmes
It's good stuff.
unidentified
Woo-hoo!
Yay!
dan friesen
How about you?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is yesterday.
I got the chance to get together with my cousins, who I haven't seen for a while, even though they look very close.
And they have a new French bulldog puppy.
And it is so goddamn cute.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
Anytime you see a new puppy and you get to hold it...
That's your bright spot for the day.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think so.
I'm not a dog guy, but even I can appreciate it.
jordan holmes
Little puppies in the crook of my...
Oh, no, it was too good.
dan friesen
I get it.
Too good!
Yep.
So, Jordan, today we got an episode to dive into.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Let me talk about Friday's episode.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
It's February 25th.
2022.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
But another thing that we're going to be doing is a deep deconstruction of the idea that Alex predicted this war.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
We heard him reference...
jordan holmes
I thought it was going to be a tiramisu.
We were going to split it up into its component parts.
Maybe exchange one piece for foam.
dan friesen
Do some molecular gastronomy.
jordan holmes
Exactly, yeah.
dan friesen
We are kind of.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But it's going to be about Alex's bullshit.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
So I'm excited to get into that.
The rest of the stuff, not so much.
Excited to get into it.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
But we will...
Deal with it all on the other side of saying hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
That's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Harry A. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thanks, Harry A. Take out next, Rachel's infuriating breaky time.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Rachel!
dan friesen
Take out next, I'm proud of you, Dan and Jordan!
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you so much!
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Alex is a quirked-up white boy with a little bit of swagger, busting it down sexual style.
Is he goaded with the sauce?
Most definitely not.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you much.
dan friesen
Next, Raised on O 'Reilly.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
And we got a technocrat up in the mix here, Jordan.
So thank you to the writers on this show who have been teasing it for five damn years now.
When are these Dan and Jordan guys going to finally get together?
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
I have risen above my enemies.
I might quit tomorrow, actually.
I'm just going to take a little breaky now.
A little breaky for me.
And then we're going to come back.
And I'm going to start the show over.
But I'm the devil!
I've got to be taken over here!
Fuck you!
Fuck you!
I've got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your New World Order, and fuck the horse you rode in on, and all your shit!
Maybe today should be my last broadcast.
Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.
Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow, and you never see me again.
That's really what I want to do.
I never want to come back here again.
I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air.
I'll be better tomorrow.
jordan holmes
Are you sure?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm positive.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
He's not good.
jordan holmes
Still?
We've had so many tomorrows now.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
And you'd think that he couldn't be not better from the last time we saw him.
jordan holmes
It would be hard to get worse.
unidentified
That was bad.
jordan holmes
That was worse.
Yeah, that's bad.
dan friesen
His discussion and content in the lead up to Ukraine being invaded by Russia and his response immediately was bad.
jordan holmes
Shameful.
dan friesen
And I would say that today isn't better.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Cool.
dan friesen
So, here's another context drop from today's show.
alex jones
Leo Zagami is way underrated.
That dude is the real deal.
I'll leave it at that.
jordan holmes
No, what?
dan friesen
No.
I would agree with him.
jordan holmes
Is this from today?
dan friesen
Yeah.
I would agree with him if he's talking about Leo's music.
jordan holmes
Yeah, great.
dan friesen
Way underrated.
jordan holmes
The real deal.
He had a good stretch there in the early thousands.
I bet he and Giorgio hung out, man.
dan friesen
He was the king of the underground Roman techno scene.
unidentified
Too good!
dan friesen
But yeah, he's not the real deal about anything else.
unidentified
Oh, well, bummer.
dan friesen
So we start here at the beginning of the episode on February 25th, and this is where we're going to dive immediately into the discussion about Alex's prediction.
Right.
And here we go.
alex jones
All hell has broken loose.
Now, a lot of people have asked, how did I know in October, November, December this was coming?
And I told you how I knew that.
The ice melts at the end of February, and the tanks would bog down.
So if Russia was going to invade, they'd do it by the end of February.
And major financial individuals I talked to at the highest levels said, get ready for war in February.
Not just Russia, but also China.
And I told you that so you could get ready.
And a lot of people just marvel and say, how does he do it?
He must be a secret agent.
Or Jones must just make a lot of predictions and this one stuck.
No, I said for the last four months, five months, that it would come at the end of February.
That's what I said.
dan friesen
So one of the central pieces of Alex's coverage of the invasion of Ukraine has been about how he said that there was going to be a war by the end of February back in the fall to early winter of last year.
That's become a bit of a meme, and you can see people posting about Alex's remarkable prediction on Twitter and other message boards.
So I felt like a really good use of our time would be to really dig into this and see what Alex predicted and talk about why he's full of shit.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
On band.video, Alex posted a video with the title, quote, Watch Alex Jones Predict War in Ukraine by February Compilation.
This is on his own website.
It's providing evidence of his prediction.
So this is what I'm going to base my discussion on.
jordan holmes
Right.
It's his own evidence.
dan friesen
Exactly.
With the title, Watch Alex Jones Predict War in Ukraine by February Compilation.
jordan holmes
Done.
dan friesen
So it is a compilation of a number of clips from different shows he did.
So I'm going to deal with them one at a time.
None of this is selectively edited to remove anything from the compilation he posted.
These clips are going to be played exactly as they appear.
They're only separated by which show they're from.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So this first clip here is from October 21st, 2021.
alex jones
The smart money is on a war with China.
unidentified
And I don't want a war, but...
alex jones
We're looking at a giant war in February right now.
Currently, that's the projections with the top people on the Earth who claim they're not with the New World Order Combine.
It is war in February.
And this is the type of time, like right before World War I, right before World War II, when everything kicks off.
And I hope that doesn't happen.
But currently, that is the trajectory we're on.
And there is a consensus on that.
And a large consensus.
I don't mean a consensus with people that just live here in Austin, the new main power hub of the country.
I'm talking about all over the world we have contacts.
And General Flynn thinks war with China is imminent.
He was raising the alarm ten years ago on that, and that's why they got mad at him.
So all the smart people I talk to say the same thing I'm seeing.
dan friesen
So the first obvious problem with this clip is that Alex is predicting a war with China, which hasn't happened.
jordan holmes
I understand that this is his own evidence.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
But he said in February.
He left the part in where he said this is going to be war with China, right?
dan friesen
That is a problem.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So taken at face value, this has nothing to do with Russia or Ukraine, and that's a problem for me.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The second thing to note here is that while Alex is talking, if you watch the video, they flash up B-roll of a video of Rogan's podcast, which doesn't make sense.
Unless you know the larger context of where this clip came from.
When Alex mentions this new power center in Austin, that's because just before this clip, Alex had to repeatedly and embarrassingly insist that he wasn't just talking about Rogan.
And the reason he had to do this is because these comments that he's making on the 21st are actually an extension of a story he told the day before, which is from the 20th.
alex jones
And see, evil can't help it.
It's got to go for the children.
So don't think this is the authority.
Don't think it's going to succeed.
Don't think any of that, because it will fail, but probably in a giant war.
And we were all of a consensus that this is going to end in just a gigantic, massive war.
And billions dead.
But I don't know that consensus between those folks is public yet, but I guess it's kind of here.
Oh, some other things, too.
I learned some really interesting things.
But I've got to couch it certain ways, so I'm not ready to talk about that at that time.
Because I didn't just learn a lot from Joe and all the people he runs with.
You can probably imagine.
I mean, just the top of the structure.
And none of them like it.
I mean, I can just tell you, Elon Musk.
At least what he tells Joe, and that's not a secret, is he doesn't like what's going on.
dan friesen
Alex has been out with Rogan the night before, having some drinks, along with Lex Friedman and Michael Malice.
The information that Alex allegedly has, it comes from them, secondhand, which Alex is very clear about on the 20th.
alex jones
There I was at dinner last night, and then went out and saw one of the shows with Joe Rogan and Lex Friedman and Michael Malice.
That was quite a...
Quite a group of people there.
And this is all just foregone conclusion.
We all know it.
There's no debating it.
It's out in the open.
And we just sat there and discussed what it's going to be like going through this.
And I learned a lot of interesting intel from those guys that I won't say on air because they all have their own little intel.
dan friesen
So this is an instance of Alex using one of his regular strategies, which is basically just a combination of escalation and obscuring things.
On the 20th, he tells a story of being out with Rogan and a couple of his weirdo friends, and over drinks they talk about how they feel like war is coming.
Then, on the 21st, Alex embellishes this story to be about all these high-level sources he's talking to, when in reality it's just a continuation of a story from the day prior, which is why he needs to insist that he's not just talking about Rogan.
Alex does this a lot We've seen instances of him taking information That a caller gives him one day Which he then goes on to report Is coming from an unnamed high level source The next day I guess what Alex probably wants the audience to think is that, at a minimum...
This is something that Elon Musk has told Rogan, and then Rogan's told Alex, but it doesn't really matter.
The information he's providing doesn't come from any high-level source, and more importantly, the prediction that he's made based on that fake intel hasn't come true.
This is about war with China.
It's not relevant.
jordan holmes
Again, it's also about United States war with China, which the United States is not currently at war with China.
Am I correct?
dan friesen
You are.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So, on to the next clip.
Now, this clip is from July 21st, 2021, and you better get pumped, because it features a guest appearance from the guy who took sole credit for 9-11, Leo Zagami.
jordan holmes
Leo Zagami's a real one.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
alex jones
First is biological, bacteriological virus.
Next is the cyber, which they tell us, and the next is nuclear.
Lay that out.
leo zagami
Yes, the cyber warfare basically is already taking place with all these hackers that are working constantly.
And then, of course, we have the nuclear.
Now, the nuclear is already starting to be announced.
China has threatened...
alex jones
China, here it is.
They threatened...
China threatened to nuke Taiwan yesterday.
Here's the headline.
Fox News.
Go ahead.
Keep going.
Official Chinese Daily.
They said, we will nuke Japan.
leo zagami
So, as you can see, gradually these three phases of this period that we unfortunately are going to be living, and that will, of course, diminish the population of the Earth.
dan friesen
That has absolutely nothing to do with the current situation.
It doesn't mention February 2022, and it has to do with nuclear or radiological weapons being used by China, not Russia.
This clip is also being taken wildly out of context in order for it to be used in this compilation.
Here is the actual context of what Alex and Leo are talking about just before this clip starts.
alex jones
What's the time frame?
I know you don't want to say it because you don't know, but at a gut level doing research, what's the time frame of the Antichrist takeover?
How long has this happened?
How long we got to survive?
leo zagami
From 2020 to 2030, there's a three stages takeover.
The first is bacteriological warfare, the second is cyber warfare, the third is nuclear warfare.
So these three scenarios will be unveiled in the next nine years.
dan friesen
This conversation has nothing to do with Russia invading Ukraine, let alone doing it in February.
It's two lunatics talking about what they imagine the devil's schedule looks like over the next decade.
This clip is meaningless.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, we're still, even in his clip, we should still be in the first bacteriological phase.
Or at least cyber warfare.
We're not in full nuclear warfare.
dan friesen
No, probably not.
jordan holmes
We got another seven years.
dan friesen
Otherwise, I mean, the devil would be way ahead.
jordan holmes
He's already a decade behind.
He can't jump ahead an extra decade.
dan friesen
I don't know of any art that exists that depicts the devil as being ahead of schedule.
Like, the devil went down to Georgia, he's behind.
I think there's a lack of strategic tension if the devil has downtime.
jordan holmes
If the devil is like waiting at a diner for you, just like sitting there like, I can't believe he's late.
Literally me.
dan friesen
Just sitting around tapping his hoof.
jordan holmes
He does seem to need to be busy all the time.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's nonsense.
So this next clip is from February 17th, 2021.
And it's important to understand that this show that it came from was during the 2021 winter storm in Texas.
So Alex is particularly grumpy about how he doesn't have his fun LED background in the studio and they have to run the show on backup generators.
alex jones
They may even have Biden stand down and receive a first strike to our military bases from China.
My gut's never been wrong.
And I keep having very intense nightmares the last month that the United States is going to be hit by nuclear weapons by China and is going to stand down and are going to receive the attack.
And I've looked at all the evidence, too.
They're preparing us with stay in your homes.
Oh, your power's off.
They turned the power off.
I'll prove that coming up.
But they admit they did, by the way.
It's in the fine print.
unidentified
Nope.
alex jones
And they're just getting us ready for the disaster.
They're not going to hit the main cities.
They're going to hit the military bases.
Very good chance that they're going to either blow the entire power grid with the MPs, which they've been conditioning us to get ready for, or they're going to hit us with a first strike.
And you're like, oh, that's crazy.
No, this is war, folks.
America's over.
It's gone.
Trump was removed.
Of course he won in a giant landslide.
They weren't going to allow that to happen.
And that's why when you look at the press secretary and all Biden's people, they are scared.
And if I was them, I'd be scared too.
Because they're going to be removed as soon as the Chinese take over.
So, I gotta be honest with you, folks.
It's all over, okay?
It's all over.
We're about to be hit with nuclear weapons.
The military stood down.
Everything's gone.
So, I'm sorry.
It's over.
The country's gone.
It's all over.
dan friesen
Again, this has nothing to do with Russia or Ukraine and doesn't mention February.
This is about China nuking the U.S. And he's also not, like I said, he's not talking about any specific time frame.
This was a year ago.
This clip is utterly meaningless in terms of what this compilation is supposed to demonstrate.
Namely, that Alex predicted this war back in mid to late 2021.
This is shit.
jordan holmes
Here's what I am getting from this, alright?
Alex...
Without question, has at a certain point in time said that Russia and Ukraine will go to war.
I have no doubt of that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Somewhere along the lines.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, one of these clips will sort of get into that.
jordan holmes
Right, and they could find more, but that would take a lot of effort.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
So they got to the recent ones and they were like, that's pretty good.
dan friesen
And I also think that as this next clip that we're going to talk about sort of illustrates.
Maybe some of the times he talked about it would undercut his actual argument and the point of this compilation.
So let's get to that.
This next clip is from November 16th, 2021.
And it's pretty short.
alex jones
And I don't get butterflies a lot.
I'm having really big ones today.
I think a big war is about to start.
Something big is about to go down.
dan friesen
That means nothing.
But you probably are asking, why is that clip so short in this compilation?
It seems pretty weird.
And that's because this is what he said around that clip.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Let me tell you what's really huge and got me having butterflies right now.
And I don't get butterflies a lot.
I'm having really big ones today.
I think a big war is about to start.
Something big is about to go down.
My spidey sense has never been this strong.
It's like on fire right now.
unidentified
Woo!
alex jones
Talk about chills.
Talk about...
Man, that is some energy right there.
There's some big stuff.
You know, China's threatening war with the United States.
The CIA says Russia's preparing to invade Ukraine, which I don't believe a word they say.
jordan holmes
Who knows?
dan friesen
Well, huh.
Smart to cut that clip real short.
jordan holmes
So, in the clip where he's predicting war, he says that the Russians would not invade Ukraine.
dan friesen
Well, the CIA says that, and he doesn't believe anything.
jordan holmes
CIA's lying.
Yeah, CIA's lying.
dan friesen
Alright, okay.
Whoever put this compilation together has to have known that that's what he says immediately after this clip.
But the part where he says, oh, I feel like war is coming, that's useful for the compilation, and they know that fucking people who see this compilation Aren't going to have the time or the interest to go back and be like, wait, immediately after this he said that Russia isn't going to invade Ukraine.
jordan holmes
Right.
So this means that not only is his compilation entirely about the United States and China fighting, which is not happening, it is also...
Removing the parts where he has said Russia won't do the thing that is happening in order to bolster his case, that he is not just not wrong, but prescient.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's an abusive lie, and it's very intentional.
When you see stuff like that, it's a clear fingerprint of someone being like, shit, well, Alex actually said the opposite of what this compilation is supposed to depict.
So cut it out so we can just make it look like he did.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
It's such dog shit.
jordan holmes
It is like how a child would think of it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Or a liar.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
A liar.
That's what.
dan friesen
So the next clip here is from December 1st, 2021.
And yeah, I don't think this helps.
alex jones
We are not just here talking about what they've already done to us.
We must ask ourselves, how would they carry out such a mass extermination operation that's already killed millions worldwide with these deadly shots?
That are soft-kill binary weapons.
How would they get away with this?
And the answer is a massive financial collapse, a war.
dan friesen
So this has no specifics involved.
It's just Alex saying that he thinks the globalists should start a war or collapse the economy to distract from their COVID bioweapon plans.
He's insisted he's exposed, coming to light.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
This is meaningless and does nothing to show that Alex made any specific prediction about Ukraine, Russia, or the month of February, let alone all of them together.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
This next clip is from a week later on December 8th, 2021, and whoa, what do we got here?
alex jones
And so you've got the IMF saying imminent global financial collapse.
They've never talked like that.
That means they're obviously trying to trigger that.
And oh, imminent cyber attack.
Oh, and imminent war with Russia.
So I guess China can then swoop into Taiwan, Hong Kong.
jordan holmes
Oof.
alex jones
You already got Hong Kong.
The South China Sea.
unidentified
So close.
alex jones
They're in their own part of Vietnam now.
That's how World Wars start.
We're at the same political, cultural, spiritual, economic climate the world was in on the eve of World War I in 1914.
And we're in the same geopolitical type.
In what way?
detonate a half mile a mile up and just destroy real estate and kill humans it's when the nuclear reactors here go offline and start melting down and we've got 400-plus Chernobyls to look forward to.
And the globalists won't be safe in their little bunkers from themselves.
dan friesen
So this clip, once again, is about China nuking us, or I guess nuclear power plants melting down.
It says nothing to do with the prediction of war between Russia and Ukraine and doesn't involve February at all.
He did say Russia in there, though, and he mentioned Chernobyl, so I guess we're getting...
alex jones
Closer.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I guess.
dan friesen
Yeah, there was one jump cut in there to clearly trying to make two parts of this episode mash together to make it look like the thoughts appear to be more directly connected.
And then there's another jump cut, which takes us to the next clip that is also from this December 8th episode.
alex jones
U.S. Senator won't rule out nuclear strike against Russia.
Isn't that just sweet?
And I've got stacks of articles with them threatening.
And already moving nuclear weapons up to the Russian border.
And the Russians are like, okay, you're taking over a country that's 90% Russia in the east, about 30% Russian in the west.
And you say you're going to take our gas pipelines and our facilities and our military bases with NATO troops.
We're going to stop that.
And their answer is, we'll just nuke you then.
And so I predict the Russians are going to roll in.
They're already there.
They're going to roll in.
And there's a good chance the psychotic, crazy people.
That love Satan and love death.
Fun enough to be killing us with the shots and the bioweapon they released.
They're going to go ahead and just launch tactical nuclear weapons to the Russians.
And then the Russians are going to respond by destroying NATO forces.
And then about 15 minutes into that, the ICBMs get launched, the submarines pop up, and the cruise missiles get fired.
And so, hey!
It was a good run while we had it, right?
We love Satan, right?
We love abortion.
Well, guess what?
You all get ready to die.
dan friesen
So this is about as close as we're probably going to get.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's pretty good.
dan friesen
Alex is covering an interview with Senator Wicker on Fox News, which had to do with some tensions between Russia and Ukraine, because this conversation was already happening in December.
In ranting about other news and interviews on other news channels, Alex said he thought that Russia was going to, quote, roll in, which is unspecific enough to interpret it as him being correct or...
correct depending on your preference.
What's more important is that the rest of the stuff he's ranting about is completely off base at this point.
point.
unidentified
He also never said that it was going to happen in February, and one fair reading of this comment is that he was thinking that there would be military action that's contained within the Donbass region.
dan friesen
The only way to make this seem accurate is to be really generous, which Alex doesn't deserve, and even if you do, he's not saying February.
No.
unidentified
These are disconnected And even then, he is looking at NATO as the aggressor here.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
He's like, Russia is justified in rolling in.
dan friesen
Which, based on some of his other comments and career, you shouldn't be too surprised by.
jordan holmes
No, I'm not surprised at all by that, but in terms of I'm predicting that this war is happening, you definitely weren't predicting that Russia was going to be invading the entire country.
dan friesen
Unless you give a...
Very broad reading.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So there's one last clip in this compilation, and it's from January 5th, 2022.
alex jones
There's no way the globalists get out of this without nuclear meltdowns, the surface of the Earth becoming unlivable, and every actuary that's been done, even by the Pentagon.
So why are they following a path that will cause mass war, mass starvation, and nuclear meltdowns?
Because it's a planetary-ending event, not just for us, but all major species.
dan friesen
And that's it.
This clip means nothing, and it has no predictive quality to it at all.
When taken in their totality, this compilation involves Alex mostly talking about his fears about China nuking the United States, and it only mentions February once, not even in relation to Russia.
This is really a desperate attempt on Alex's part to capitalize on the tragic events that are taking place in Ukraine and use them to inflate his sense of self.
It's a really grotesque motivation he's displaying, particularly considering how weak the evidence he's presented is for his supposed prediction.
The reason that this works on people is because most people don't have the time to actually listen to Alex's show, so they don't know what the context is for most of these clips.
Spliced together the way they are, they give an appearance that's dishonest.
He's talking a bunch about war, and he says Russia once or twice.
He says he thinks Russia is going to, quote, roll into Ukraine, and earlier in a different clip he said February.
If you're not paying attention to how disconnected these clips are, you run the risk of combining them in your head to give Alex credit for a prediction he absolutely didn't make.
jordan holmes
You run the risk of being the rube that he made this clip to.
dan friesen
And a lot of people have fallen for it.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
In reality, Alex predicts war all the time.
I will grant him that the vast majority of these predictions that him and his guests make are kind of obsessing about civil war or race war.
The geopolitical variety does happen sometimes, but his bread and butter is really just incitement based on his culture war bigotries.
That's kind of the sweet spot for him.
In terms of predictions Alex makes on his show, historically, it's been a lot of financial collapse type stuff.
That's certainly something he does all the time, or has.
But that's because he does lose...
jordan holmes
He used to sell gold, too.
dan friesen
That's one of the big reasons.
And then the other is because it helps him attack the Federal Reserve if he insists a collapse is just around the corner.
It's their fault.
You know, that was something that he would incessantly predict that never happened in the past, except for when it did happen.
jordan holmes
Yes!
dan friesen
And then you get to look like, oh, I predicted it.
No, you say it all the fucking time.
jordan holmes
No, I mean, literally, once the crash of 1987 happened, it's been like every ten years.
You know, it's just there.
dan friesen
Right.
And predicting war is something that you're never gonna...
Eventually, long enough scale, you're gonna be right eventually.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And if you give yourself credit for predicting Russia invading Ukraine by yelling about China nuking the United States a bunch, then congratulations.
You have won a pointless game.
jordan holmes
I mean, that is so, like, low-key, such a fucking disgusting, psychopathic thing to do.
I'm like, look at all of this destruction and death.
That makes me feel good.
Because I was right.
Even though I wasn't.
dan friesen
Yep.
I had to edit clips manipulatively.
jordan holmes
I had to lie to you.
dan friesen
Yeah, in order to present myself as right.
jordan holmes
And that makes me feel good still somehow.
That's bananas.
dan friesen
Well, it gets him attention, which is really the only thing he cares about.
Also, another thing that's important to point out is that Alex predicts his own imminent death on a pretty frequent occasion, which hasn't happened yet.
And, of course, he has constant failed predictions about false flags that he insists are going to happen.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So the point here is that Alex didn't predict anything.
This video he released is a disgrace, and it doesn't even show him predicting what's going on in the world today, and it includes a clip that had to be edited short so it wouldn't include the part where Alex says he doesn't think that Russia is going to invade Ukraine.
jordan holmes
You could have just not used that one.
dan friesen
He's a piece of shit, and this is how he tries to make money and get attention off this war, and also how he's attempting to lure people's attention away from the fact that all through the beginning of last week, Alex was going on and on about how great and honest Putin was.
he should take Donetsk and Luhansk.
Yep.
unidentified
These comments look really bad now, so instead of apologizing for that, he starts this bullshit campaign about how he's basically Nostradamus, because Alex is a liar and a fucking coward.
dan friesen
Yep.
unidentified
And I feel really, I don't know, I mean, obviously I think that...
dan friesen
It's his bread and butter to do detestable things.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And so this is just another in the long line of them.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I think that the circumstances being what they are elevate this to a different level of shitheadery.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah.
dan friesen
But the other thing is that this is something that is...
It's a lure, much like you use in fishing.
This is trying to get people on the hook.
You post this compilation onto social media, and you try and trick people who wouldn't otherwise.
jordan holmes
Ooh, I gotta check this out.
This guy was right.
dan friesen
Maybe I've been being lied to about Alex all this time.
jordan holmes
Honestly, I heard that he was bad, and I know he got kicked off social media, but a lot of good people have been kicked off social media.
I'll give him a try.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
And there's a lot of possibly well-intentioned people who might get duped by this.
dan friesen
And I think that arguing against somebody posting this can appear to be a bit difficult because you have to...
have to engage with it enough to be like, that's not what he's predicting.
Right.
unidentified
And then you don't know where those clips are from.
dan friesen
And it would take a person who isn't me...
jordan holmes
An absurd amount of time.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it would drive people mad, but I'm already mad.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
So I can handle doing this, but I just think it's such a dangerous sort of propaganda tactic that I find reprehensible.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
The irony being, you're the theoretical rube that gets caught on the end of this hook.
We'll have gone there because they think that Alex is right about Russia starting a war, and if they stay there long enough, we'll eventually support Putin.
I mean, right?
Well, among other things.
dan friesen
Yes, among other things.
I mean, if you end up getting sucked in by this and then being like, wow, you know, if Alex can predict this, he must actually have really great information.
Maybe I should listen to him.
You know, you could end up believing all sorts of devilry.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Sucks.
Anyway, let's get back to the present day.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Back to February 25th.
jordan holmes
A much more comforting place.
Oh, no, never mind.
dan friesen
Shit.
So Alex believes, of course, we even heard a little bit of that in one of his clips from the past, but that, yeah, this isn't Russia's fault.
alex jones
Republican and Democratic senators calling for more military aid to Ukraine.
That's what got this going in the first place is all the weapons being shipped in to the Russian border.
How about poking the bear?
It's like climbing in a grizzly bear den at the zoo and wondering why it eats you.
Are these crazy people that climb in with Bengal tigers or gorillas and wonder why they get their head ripped off?
That's what happened here.
Doesn't mean I back what Putin's doing.
Doesn't mean I like it.
It's terrible.
And whatever happens now, it's on.
dan friesen
This is an incoherent position.
And if you actually think about it, Alex's position has to be incoherent because the alternatives just don't work.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
If this is actually a situation where the West is aggressing on Russia's border, and Alex has stated a bunch of times that he believes that the Donbass isn't a part of Ukraine, then why wouldn't he support Russia and Putin's actions?
He definitely supported them hypothetically last week before they became a reality.
This position is no good, because Putin is actually doing the thing Alex wanted to happen, and it's fucking horrific.
Alex makes money in the space where he yells about things that people aren't gonna do, like what...
outlaw the Democratic Party.
It's a real problem when the things he supports end up happening, and it doesn't happen that often, but when it does, it usually involves a lot of people dying.
And he doesn't want to be...
Made to feel bad about that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But look at it from the other side, and you realize Alex can't take the opposite position either.
He can't say that Putin is entirely in the wrong, and that he had no justification for invading, because that threatens the very long-standing positive coverage that Infowars has had regarding Putin.
He's been built up as the one great hope of defeating the globalists.
So if you take the position that he just invaded a sovereign country for no reason, you're going to have too many questions to answer.
Plus, Alex knows his business, and he knows that a whole lot of his audience loves Putin invading.
So going too hard against that is going to be bad for his bottom line.
And thus, you get this middle-of-the-road bullshit where Alex gives lip service to pretending to be opposed to the invasion while simultaneously placing the blame entirely on Western powers and thereby completely absolving Putin of blame for the invasion.
jordan holmes
Out now?
It is all on him, though.
Somehow.
dan friesen
Well, he's trying...
Alex is trying to say, like, whatever happens now is on him.
unidentified
Exactly.
dan friesen
As if the invasion is fine.
jordan holmes
No, I mean, the invasion is totally reasonable.
You invade.
But what are you doing fighting?
dan friesen
It's a bizarre position.
jordan holmes
It's nonsense.
It's nonsense.
I think it's entirely the West's fault.
Obviously, Putin should invade, and now it's all Putin's fault.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
What?
What are you talking about?
dan friesen
Well, but you understand.
I really think that if you take the time to really focus on something, I think a number of his positions throughout his career have had to be the same kind of completely internally inconsistent thing.
Going either way is not going to work.
And I think when you see that, it's really the hallmark of somebody that you should not trust.
They're up to something.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's an understatement.
dan friesen
So we get to Alex talking about his fears about cyber attack.
He believes there's going to be a false flag cyber attack against...
Russia.
Well, Russia is going to be the victim of it.
NATO is going to run the false flag against Russia in order to start a war.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
So here is the big escalation, ladies and gentlemen.
Here's the big escalation.
We've got all the talking heads saying that if there's any type of cyber attack anywhere outside of Ukraine in a NATO member, and that if so much as a stoplight goes out...
And can be blamed on the Russians.
Senator Warner and others actually said that.
That if they can blame a stoplight going out and that U.S. troops have a car wreck, that we have to invoke Article 5 and go to war with Russia and basically in the world as we know it.
So there's that issue.
Now, even if the U.S. government doesn't launch a cyber attack, against Poland or against Hungary or against the Czech Republic or against Germany, any NATO member, you know hacker groups and you know different globalist groups are going to try to stir this up and accelerate this.
They're that crazy.
dan friesen
So that conversation about, like, a stoplight getting put out by a cyberattack was used in the context of, like, it introduces really bizarre questions that we have to ask.
Like, if there is a cyberattack that Russia does against Ukraine, it has the potential to affect the infrastructure of other countries, and does that require some kind of an Article 5?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And it's not saying, oh, if a stoplight goes out, we're gonna fucking send ground troops.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
It's more like the system is so completely and utterly interconnected and complex that the idea of what is and is not a specific attack on whom is difficult now to even understand.
dan friesen
It can be.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And also, Alex is reporting this as if it's some kind of mind-blowing new conversation, but that's stupid.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The NATO Secretary General, Jen Stoltenberg, has been saying that cyber attacks on a member country could trigger Article 5 since at least 2019, if not earlier.
It's never really fully articulated, but if you read his comments, it seems pretty clear that the way Article 5 would be invoked in that situation is in terms of retaliating in the cyberspace, not in terms of a physical war.
jordan holmes
Right.
Right.
So their interpretation would be, if we trigger Article 5 for this purpose, then we can meet it at that same purpose.
dan friesen
Maybe that's not always consistent, but that seems to be the way it's discussed about cyber issues.
Stoltenberg wrote an article in Prospect magazine in 2019 that includes this passage.
Quote, as we look ahead, we must continue to build a strong and diverse workforce of future cyber defenders.
The UK has already started doing this with Cyber First, a program aimed at supporting and preparing undergraduates for a career in cybersecurity.
We must be smart about recruiting, training and retaining highly skilled cyber experts and make sure their skills are kept sharp through regular exercises, as we do, for instance, through our cyber coalition exercises.
Cyberspace is the new battleground and making NATO cyber ready, well resourced, well trained and well equipped is a top priority.
It doesn't require that that defense be a land invasion.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Anyway, you can tell here that Alex is laying some groundwork to be able to claim that he predicted a false flag cyber attack if Russia does do something.
Or if there is a cyber attack, he can be like, aha, I knew it, I called it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's nonsense.
jordan holmes
No, not good.
Not helpful.
But at least he named more than six NATO states, so that's pretty good.
dan friesen
I wasn't counting.
jordan holmes
No, I think it was just five.
dan friesen
Poland, Germany, Czech Republic.
unidentified
Damn!
I think it was three.
dan friesen
So, you remember in the lead-up to the invasion, there was a lot of conversation among people like Biden.
The U.S. State Department were saying that there was information that Russia had planned to create provocation, false flag, pretexts for going in.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
What was Alex's response to that?
jordan holmes
I believe Alex's response to that was to say that it would not happen.
Like, false flags don't happen in this way.
dan friesen
No, they do, but Russia doesn't do them.
jordan holmes
Right, Russia doesn't do them.
dan friesen
There's no history.
jordan holmes
That's what I was...
I couldn't get there.
I was like, he didn't say that...
All false flags don't happen.
That's crazy.
unidentified
But he did say that somebody, like, and it was specifically Russia.
jordan holmes
Russia had never done it before.
That was what got me.
dan friesen
Yeah, and he was pretty pissed off based on his own expertise in the field that the United States would be saying that, whoops.
alex jones
If you think it's easy to stage a false flag, and I do think for once the State Department and others are being accurate, I mean, car bombs going off right as the Russians.
That's what militaries do when they invade.
If you don't think the U.S. military doesn't do that, you're not living in the real world, okay?
That's in military classified manuals.
Usually you don't want to kill people if you're the good guys.
You'll blow up a few tanks or blow up, you know, an embassy building or a barracks.
And that's your pretext.
So it does look like some of those things did indeed happen.
And see, it's okay to talk about false flags.
dan friesen
This guy calls himself the world's foremost expert on false flags, and he has the balls to come on his show and say, whoops, I guess Russia did a false flag after all.
Looks like the State Department was right, and I, the world's foremost expert, was wrong.
Alex wasn't just wrong.
He was pissed off that anyone other than him was suggesting that a false flag could happen.
You really got the sense that he took that personally, but now, I guess he's realized the State Department was right, but what he's failed to take stock of is that he was wrong.
He'll never do that, because if he acknowledges that he's wrong, or that there's a decent chance he could be wrong, he'd lose a lot of his hypnotic power over the audience.
So much of Alex's appeal is based on his performative confidence, so if that facade cracked, he doesn't really have much to offer people other than bad impressions.
Leaving aside the question of whether or not there were in fact false flags, it's weird how Alex can accept that Russia did a false flag, but not draw the natural conclusion that Putin is evil.
Evil leaders do false flags, according to Alex at InfoWars.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
You can't be an honest, honorable leader and do false flags.
But here, Alex seems to take the whole thing pretty lightly.
jordan holmes
Eh, you know, that's what you do.
That's part of the game.
If you think the U.S. doesn't do it, then you're just out of control.
I don't even know what you're talking about.
Frankly, I still don't think Russia did a false flag.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
So he seems to be almost justifying the idea of a false flag by saying Russia wanted to look like the good guys, so they did some car bombings to make it look like they were, I guess.
And yet, Alex...
Alex won't take the very short, very obvious step of recognizing that if- So they are the bad guys.
Exactly.
jordan holmes
Yeah, so they wanted to look like the good guys.
Why?
Because they are not the good guys.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
There we go.
Now we got there.
dan friesen
And to Alex's last point that, hey, it's okay to talk about false flags.
It's always been okay to talk about false flags.
Alex doesn't talk about false flags.
He calls everything a false flag with no evidence.
He constantly rants about vague false flags that are coming any day now.
He uses accusations of false flags to excuse the behavior of murderers who are motivated by the same extreme right-wing politics that he espouses on a daily basis.
There's a lot of space between responsibly talking about false flags and what Alex does.
He is full of shit.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
See, you can.
You can talk about false flags, Dan.
dan friesen
If you want to.
jordan holmes
We both did.
It's great how easy and free it is in this country.
dan friesen
So Alex, I think that even more so than on our last episode, you got the sense that Alex is waffly a little bit, but also on Putin's side.
jordan holmes
Well, he's not saying that Putin's bad.
dan friesen
Right, but they were right.
jordan holmes
Well, obviously.
dan friesen
Yeah, Putin was right.
I think Alex has solidified that a little bit more on this 25th episode.
alex jones
This is being done to look strong, to go in and to disarm Ukraine because Russia for 20 years has let the West expand NATO five times.
That's very clear.
And Putin said two weeks ago and a week ago, he said, I'm not going to invade.
Just say you're not going to invoke Article 5 and that you're not going to bring Ukraine into NATO.
And they said, nope.
The State Department tweeted images of large U.S. transport aircraft delivering pallets of very destructive anti-aircraft and anti-tank weapons.
So, the West went and started a fight.
It's got one now.
jordan holmes
You just said it was right for Putin to invade.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's what he just said.
Yeah.
The end.
You think Putin murdering all of these people is good?
dan friesen
He believes that the invasion of Ukraine was a self-defense act, essentially.
jordan holmes
Yeah, obviously.
dan friesen
So this idea that NATO promised Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union that they wouldn't expand is taken as an absolute fact by Alex, and I think a lot of people do accept it as a fact, but the reality isn't so clear.
It's definitely been the Russian government and Putin's claim forever, but there are some real serious sticking points in terms of history that make this seem incorrect.
This comes down to the period right after the Berlin Wall fell, and there was a contentious discussion happening about reunification.
One of the big issues in the negotiation involving the U.S. State Department and Baker and Mikhail Gorbachev was whether or not NATO troops would be stationed in East Germany.
The USSR and Russia did not want that to happen at all.
So in the past, Putin has pointed to a May 17, 1990 speech from the NATO Secretary General Manfred Warner, as he did in a 2007 speech.
Quote, No one even remembers them, but I will allow myself to remind the audience what was said.
I would like to quote the speech of NATO Secretary General Mr. Warner in Brussels on 17th of May, 1990.
He said at that time, the fact that we are ready not to place a NATO army outside of German territory gives the Soviet Union a firm security guarantee.
Where are these guarantees?
that the speech that Warner gave didn't promise not to expand member states of NATO.
Right.
unidentified
It just promised not to station...
Right.
dan friesen
Even Gorbachev has said that they didn't agree not to expand in a 2014 interview with Russia Beyond.
The topic of NATO expansion was not discussed at all, and it wasn't brought up in those years.
I say this with full responsibility.
Not a single Eastern European country raised the issue not even after the Warsaw Pact ceased to exist in 1991.
Western leaders didn't bring it up either.
He says expansion is against the spirit of the agreement, but it wasn't discussed and no promises were made.
The point is that there's a gray area here where Alex just sees black and white in the same way as Putin.
Multiple NATO states, Estonia and Latvia, border Russia, and they joined in 2004.
Multiple former Warsaw Pact countries have joined, the earliest entering in 1999, prior to Putin coming to power.
Bringing up NATO expansion as being against the spirit of the agreement that was only about Germany is something that is a fine thing to do at a negotiating table, but it's absolutely not a justification.
For an invasion, which is what Alex is using it here for.
He seems really desperate to make the audience think that this is the West's fault and that Putin had no choice, which is pretty fucked up.
But that's where he's at.
That's how the cow ate the cabbage.
jordan holmes
Man, it's so weird to me seeing how many people are like...
Apologists for a war.
dan friesen
Yeah, I was watching some of the America First PAC conference, and Nick Fuentes was getting rounds of applauses for Putin.
What was the comment?
They're comparing Putin to Hitler as if that's a bad thing.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Fucked up.
dan friesen
But I think he does believe some of that.
But I think that kind of a line was actually sort of...
jordan holmes
Oh, that was 100% to get on.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's to trend.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think he is also a dangerous, horrible, neo-Nazi-ish bigot, but I think that was verbal shitposting.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
That was definitely him being like, guess what's going to be on TV tomorrow?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Me.
dan friesen
Yep.
But beyond that, even though he was expressing quite a bit of support for Putin invading Ukraine...
Getting a round of applause and a chant for Putin.
Yeah.
There's all sorts of folks across the right.
jordan holmes
It's just...
Really?
I can't think of any...
I can't think of any war that I'd be like, well, listen, this is great.
I think this is awesome.
I want this...
It's crazy.
It's crazy to me.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Who lives in that world of like, yeah, war is still cool.
It's 2022.
Come on, man.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
Come on.
dan friesen
So Alex is really caught up in this Ukraine stuff, you know, and so much so that he's forgotten to cover some big news.
alex jones
I'm going to cover the developments in Russia for this segment and the next.
But then in the last segment of this hour, I really dropped the ball yesterday and did not cover the COVID news.
And this isn't just about this news.
It's just...
Unbelievable.
And we already knew this and had almost all the pieces of it, but now we have the last ones.
That Moderna created COVID-19.
And then they just reverse engineered it in the lab to have a cover story.
And they released it.
Of course, Moderna was created by Bill Gates and others just for this event.
dan friesen
So this story that Alex is talking about has to do with another preprint article that he's blowing out of proportion in order to weave conspiracy yarns.
This has to do with a team of researchers who found that a 19-letter string of DNA in the coronavirus matches a string that was patented by Moderna a few years back in relation to a cancer drug that they were working on.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
This was covered in the Daily Mail, who spoke to Professor Lawrence Young, a virologist at Warwick University, who said, quote, We're talking about a very, very, very small piece made up of 19 nucleotides, so it doesn't mean very much, to be frank.
If you were to do these type of searches, you can always find matches.
It's a quirky observation, but I wouldn't call it a smoking gun because it's too small.
It doesn't get us any further with the debate about whether COVID-19 was engineered.
Also, Bill Gates didn't start Moderna.
He wasn't even involved in the venture capital startup for the company back in 2010.
Even within the study itself, they suggest ways that this could have happened naturally.
And their conclusion is just that it's something that should be looked into further.
That's fine.
It just doesn't...
You know, justify Alex's reporting on the story at all.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
So he'll get back to it a little bit later, but you just had to be like, fuck, I forgot to cover this.
jordan holmes
Oh, this is so important.
This thing that's not true.
I gotta get this out there.
dan friesen
Oh, smoking gun.
jordan holmes
Oh, Moderna was created by...
Goofy the giraffe.
dan friesen
But first, you know, we'll get into that giraffe stuff.
We'll talk about why your neck's so long.
What are you hiding?
jordan holmes
Hey, what are you doing up there?
What are those leaves?
Are they better than the ones I got down here?
dan friesen
You elitist giraffe.
jordan holmes
You son of a bitch.
dan friesen
We'll get into all that, but first we gotta talk more about Russia.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
The globalists never stop.
They never give up.
And they're really pissed at Russia for not being fully under their control.
And so they are pushing Russia into a fight.
I understand that Russia was surrounded, weapons were on its border, and that the globalist system was setting Russia up for war and defeat, but I think Putin made a major mistake going into Ukraine, and long term, the globalists are going to try to trigger a larger war, and I understand that it was one of the choices out of a list of bad choices, and maybe Putin will be borne out.
To have stabilized things with this, and that remains to be seen.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So you can kind of see here how the only way Alex can be any way critical of the invasion is to put it in tactical terms.
He has nothing to say about the targeting of civilians.
It's just a possibly bad strategic decision Putin made that, hey, who knows, maybe it'll be a good thing in the end.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
This guy's a fucking worm.
jordan holmes
Hey, sure, you sent missiles directly into kindergartens, hospitals, all that stuff.
That is just bad strategy.
It's not evil!
You just gotta do it better!
dan friesen
Yeah, there's a real...
I don't know how to describe it other than lack of center here.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there is a little bit of that, like, oh, he's watching a TV show.
He's watching a TV show and he's like, if I were the head...
Main character in this show.
I wouldn't do that.
I mean, he's like, don't go in there!
Don't go in there!
The killer's behind the door!
dan friesen
Right, but he's also imagining a killer being behind the door.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
There's nothing!
dan friesen
Everything's fake.
And the TV show isn't real.
jordan holmes
He's just staring at a big rock.
He's just staring at a wall.
dan friesen
So anyway, in case you need this to be clear.
alex jones
The enemy is the globalist.
The enemy is Hollywood.
The enemy is the left.
The enemy is the disease.
Of their grandstanding and their moralizing when they're the worst people this planet has ever seen.
dan friesen
Yeah, so he's making clear that those are the enemies.
The enemy isn't Russia.
unidentified
Yeah, yep.
jordan holmes
That's just, it's amazing.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
It is, it is kind of...
dan friesen
To be fair, you know, we've talked about this a bunch of the past, but maybe not reiterated it enough recently.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that is, you know, saying that, you know...
Russia, we're not talking about the people of the country.
jordan holmes
No, no, of course not.
dan friesen
And it can be easy to misconstrue.
jordan holmes
Obviously.
dan friesen
But it bears repeating from time to time.
jordan holmes
I am thoroughly anti-all borders.
Oh boy.
dan friesen
No war, no wall, no USA at all.
jordan holmes
No walls, no lines, no nothing.
dan friesen
You sound like Biden.
jordan holmes
I'm just saying, but you sure as fuck have a right to defend yourself if an army shows up at your door.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's the truth.
dan friesen
Right, right.
Yeah, yeah.
I just, I guess, wanted to clarify that because of my way of saying that, like, Alex thinking that the enemy isn't Russia.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I don't mean...
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
No, no, no, of course.
dan friesen
But yeah, so he has some really interesting, and by that I mean dumb, ideas about what's going on with this invasion.
alex jones
But you get around the average leftist, they are hateful, demonic sacks of filth.
That will never stop pushing and never stop attacking until they get control of absolutely everything and run it into the damn ground.
And there are going to be people around the world that ain't going to put up with it.
And you're seeing that right now with Russia.
The left has successfully feminized America, broken our backs, done all this crap.
Didn't happen in Russia.
Even after 85 years of New World Order leftist rulership.
jordan holmes
Is that?
alex jones
Now we see the response of it, and it's a bad thing.
dan friesen
So this is an outrageous thing for Alex to be saying, at least partially because it's a complete contradiction of everything he's said for the past week.
jordan holmes
I mean, goddammit.
dan friesen
When Putin was initially threatening to go into the Donbass region, Alex wasn't saying that he was doing that to stand up to SJWs.
He relied on Russian talking points to argue that Putin should do that, and it's basically already Russia.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Even after the invasion, Alex said that Putin had paid off the Ukrainian government and was going to have no resistance in his invasion.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
He wasn't going on the warpath because the New World Order is featuring effeminate men in sitcoms and commercials or whatever.
jordan holmes
Nope.
Purple penguins are why millions of people have to die.
dan friesen
Alex suggested that the fact that the U.S. is tolerant of LGBTQ folk made us look weak to Putin in a past episode.
But this is a different argument that Alex is making now.
This is an argument about Putin's motives.
Alex is suggesting that he invaded Ukraine because it was somehow a response to how the left wants to control everything and feminize men.
Right.
unidentified
This is a profoundly stupid thing, but it's one of the only refuges Alex has to hide in now.
dan friesen
The invasion is ongoing.
People are dying.
And all of his predictions were complete shit.
He was wrong in the lead up to the invasion.
And he actually was wrong in both directions.
He said that Putin was just going to take Donbass.
And he also said that Putin was going to start a thermonuclear war with the United States.
At this point, he's aired on both extremes.
Like he got a 7-10 split of being wrong.
In order to put some salve on his wounds and to distract people, he puts out that stupid video about how he predicted this last year, and then he goes and he does everything he can to shroud the narrative of the invasion in topics that he's more comfortable with,
Yeah, I mean, it's just...
jordan holmes
It is literally like, hey, we can forgive anything as long as your aim is to stamp out the LGBT community.
Like, that's like, yeah, fuck yeah!
You have to invade, otherwise NATO's gonna bring the LGBTQ into your fucking country.
Like, that's your argument to make.
dan friesen
It's not far off from the spiritual core of what he's saying.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's just like, yeah, whatever you gotta do, man.
As long as we get rid of LGBTQ, you get a free lunch.
dan friesen
I'm sure he would try and pretend that there are other...
He would.
jordan holmes
His own words aren't helping him.
dan friesen
That is a central organizing principle of what he's putting forth.
It's awful.
It's abhorrent.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it might as well be, you know, this hurricane was caused because we allow gay marriage.
It's just God has to visit pain upon us for our sins.
dan friesen
Yep, it's a mess.
So Alex gets back to this COVID narrative, and man, he can't even...
Take something and use the actual bits of it to make a conspiracy.
He has to lie even about something that he could just work with.
It's weird.
alex jones
So a lot of you tuned in are going to say, I've already read these articles.
I've already heard this.
I've already seen this because the Indians, they get the credit, majored their top university of biogenetics, got the virus, scanned six different samples of it, and said this is completely man-made.
All the parts of it were made in a lab.
They're all cut together.
They're synthetic.
And they explained how it was synthetic.
It was no debate.
They're saying it's one out of three billion chances that just one part of COVID-19 could not be made in a lab.
When you put all the pieces together, it's basically impossible.
dan friesen
So Alex is lying.
First of all, this wasn't from India's most prestigious or top university.
The lead researcher on it is Balamurali Ambati, who's with the University of Oregon in Eugene.
There's one researcher from India who works at Dr. Shaf's Charity Eye Hospital.
Second, Alex is just lying about what this paper is about.
It's not about any other part of the genome than this strand of 19 letters.
So when Alex says that it says something outside of that, he's making that up.
They do calculate the odds of this string matching the string that was patented by Moderna as being 3 billion to 1. But it's also important to remember that this hasn't been peer-reviewed, and even just in the comment section of the article, like the actual paper itself, people have brought up some potential issues with how they calculated that probability.
They also didn't say that it had to have been made in a lab.
That's all an extrapolation on Alex's part.
There is, even inside the story, or in the paper itself, there is a potential explanation for how it could have occurred naturally.
So, yeah.
Alex is just making this up.
jordan holmes
So, when he said no argument, he was very much not telling the truth.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
He hasn't read this.
He's just...
The article that Alex is reading from is from the Daily Mail.
And even this article includes the response that they had from Dr. Young about how this is interesting, but it doesn't mean much.
And it also has another quote from a microbiologist from Reading University who said, quote, it's an interesting coincidence, but this is surely entirely coincidental.
The real version of this story, as reported in this study and the Daily Mail article, deserves the response of a shrug and saying, how about that?
Alex's version is sensational and terrifying, but he's also lying and making up details so he can make it more scary for the listeners and make it more of a confirmation of his bullshit narratives.
unidentified
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
So I found this to be uncompelling.
jordan holmes
So even then, our reaction to it is more like, oh, isn't that...
unidentified
Kind of cool.
jordan holmes
Like when you see a double rainbow.
You're like, whoa, that's unusual.
dan friesen
Well, one guy when he saw a double rainbow.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Very different response.
jordan holmes
Very different response.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Man, there's so much news.
jordan holmes
Uh, is there?
dan friesen
Yeah, for Alex, there's so much news to get into.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
We've got so much to hit, but I'm going to air this now, the full compilation.
It's like seven minutes long.
It's up on.
jordan holmes
Of every good 60s cut.
alex jones
Bandot video right now.
jordan holmes
From the 70s.
alex jones
The video clip that's 27 seconds long has got millions of views on the internet right now all over the place.
There's just clips everywhere.
Million here, 600,000 there, 300,000 there.
Hundreds of copies.
It's everywhere.
I mean, it's incredible where I came out and said, look for war by early 2022, by the end of February.
And I'm...
Saying is that my prediction is incredible.
It's incredible how viral this has gone.
So I figured, why don't I just go ahead and play a little bit more of this in context.
dan friesen
You navel-gazing fuck.
This is ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Wow.
Listen, it's not about that.
dan friesen
We have so much news.
jordan holmes
It's not about me taking a victory lap.
That's not what I want you to think this is about.
dan friesen
And by the way, it's a victory lap based on getting a lot of attention for a compilation of deceitful clips that I had edited together.
jordan holmes
I don't want to take a victory lap, but I do want to play this uninterrupted for everyone to hear.
dan friesen
What a piece of shit.
jordan holmes
I'm going to play it every segment.
dan friesen
I guess you don't have a lot of news to get to, you dick.
jordan holmes
No, apparently not.
dan friesen
Anyway, he tries to salvage a little bit from this after the compilation plays.
He has some interesting rebuttals.
alex jones
My sources, the information I saw and everything going on said by February, late February, China starts moving and Russia starts moving.
That's not a hard call.
Because if they're going to move, they're going to move together.
And now China is making more and more of those type of statements.
But they've also said that they'd like Putin to obviously meet with the Ukrainian president and talk about an armistice and a demilitarization of the area.
But it got leaked a few days ago that the Chinese talking points to the media of censorship and control saying we're with Russia and we're with Russia's invasion, but we want to act like...
We're neutral so that we can move against our targets.
It's basically what they said.
In fact, that was in yesterday's stack.
Will you guys reprint me that?
dan friesen
I got it for you, Alex.
jordan holmes
Will you reprint it?
dan friesen
I'll reprint it for you.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
So this is an interesting way to try and salvage things.
Probably inspired at least partially by him listening to the compilation video as he aired it and realizing there was almost entirely about him predicting that China was going to nuke the U.S. and knowing, eh, maybe I should explain that or try and make it not look so glaring.
jordan holmes
I'm going to need some more context for that one.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex is referring to a February 23rd article in the Washington Yeah.
This is about a propaganda outlet set of instructions from China that were allegedly leaked, first being posted on the website China Digital Times.
It's unclear from the original source where these instructions totally came from, since it's entirely possible that this was just an internal corporate memo from the social media team at the news outlet Horizon News.
From the Digital Times article, quote, I mean, if you're a China-sponsored...
jordan holmes
News outlet, you kind of probably have a veal for what's good and what's bad in your boss.
dan friesen
Maybe so, but Alex still doesn't have justification to say that this was directly from the government.
jordan holmes
Agreed.
dan friesen
So the story Alex is covering can't even solidly confirm that this was something that came from the government, but Alex is claiming that the instructions were to pretend to be against Russia's invasion so they could sneakily do some invading of their own.
This doesn't match the messaging and the instructions, and Alex is really just making up a lot of this.
Basically, the instructions were to just not say anything negative about Russia in the news or on social media, and don't say anything pro-Western.
jordan holmes
Right, yeah.
I mean, they've got a full cooperation treaty, so yeah, that makes sense.
dan friesen
To be clear, I think it's not good.
If this is authentic, I don't know necessarily how credible the sourcing is on this.
Sure.
unidentified
If it is real, which I think it could be.
dan friesen
Sure.
unidentified
It's not good.
dan friesen
No.
unidentified
It sucks that Horizon News would be making rules to not post anything, quote, unfavorable to Russia or pro-Western.
dan friesen
And they're being told to monitor comments on their posts.
There's a larger issue to confront here, and that is that Alex's rhetoric is directly in line with the positions being expressed by representatives for the CCP.
From the Washington Times article that is Alex's source, quote, on Wednesday, Chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Xinying appeared to be following a similar propaganda script to the one disclosed by Horizon News.
Ms. Hua blamed the United States for the crisis and avoided criticism of Moscow.
Quote, lately the United States has been sending weapons to Ukraine, heightening tensions, creating panic, and even hyping up the possibility of warfare, she told.
A key question here is what role the U.S., the culprit of current tensions surrounding Ukraine, has played, Mishwa said.
If someone keeps pouring oil on the flame while accusing others of not doing their best to put out the fire, such kind of behavior is clearly irresponsible and immoral.
I look forward to seeing how Alex explains how his coverage of the Ukraine invasion is directly in line with what's supposed to be the result of a Chinese propaganda initiative that he's decrying.
But I also know damn well he's not going to deal with that at all.
This fucking pile of shit.
jordan holmes
Nope, nope.
Which is really strange.
dan friesen
No, not that strange.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't...
dan friesen
It would be, but it's...
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, I mean, obviously.
If you think about it, it is strange.
Just because you're...
dan friesen
If people were acting on consistent principles, then it would be strange.
jordan holmes
It would be very strange to be like, Putin's awesome, he signed a treaty of cooperation with China, and China is now just giving out all this propaganda that helps Putin.
So evil of China.
And you're like, wait.
What?
What's happening?
dan friesen
Yeah, Alex could have given that statement that the Chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman gave.
jordan holmes
Easy.
Straight up.
dan friesen
It's very similar to his mentality.
jordan holmes
Could have been written for him.
dan friesen
Yeah.
What a dick.
Anyway, Alex takes some calls, because he has so much to get to.
And, you know, this is the result of the kind of narratives that Alex puts out.
The day before, obviously, Alex was saying that the Ukrainian leadership and military had been paid off and there wouldn't be any resistance.
Right.
unidentified
And now it just gets parroted back to him by a client.
I think the Ukraine invasion was a theater.
I think it was planned.
I mean, Putin basically walked.
I'm sorry, where?
dan friesen
What?
Yeah.
I mean, I don't even know how you would get that from listening to Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, the talking point about there being no resistance and such certainly came from Alex, but...
jordan holmes
That was a while back.
dan friesen
It was a day ago based on this episode.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
But, yeah, the notion that it came to pass is strange.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's crazy.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's just living in a bizarre fantasy world.
Now, Alex, as opposed to this caller, recognizes that, like, you know what?
There is some fighting going on.
I can't really pretend that there's not.
jordan holmes
That's a little bit too far.
dan friesen
So I've got to come up with an explanation for why.
And here's what he's got.
alex jones
Well, that's right.
Let's talk about what's happened in Ukraine.
Clearly the military leadership was bought off before the invasion.
And so ragtag pilots, ragtag tank groups, ragtag militias are fighting and dying valiantly in the face of the Russians and actually holding them off in some areas.
And, you know, the border guards, they didn't get the memo to, you know, to surrender.
So they got killed on Snake Island.
And it can only make you admire these hard fighting good people, you know, who are upset about being invaded by their historic genetic brethren.
dan friesen
This is an interesting way for Alex to try and salvage his shitty storyline about there being no Ukrainian resistance, but this is entirely pulled from his imagination.
He has no evidence or even suggestion of evidence that the Ukrainian government was paid off to surrender past him just thinking it up as a fun thing to tell the audience.
It always happens in every war.
Now that it's clear that there's a robust Ukrainian resistance, he needs to find a way to delegitimize it and try to save face.
So he's now making up that there was a memo that went around that the military needed to give up, but some border agents and scrappy pilots didn't get the memo, so they're fighting back scrappy pilots.
jordan holmes
Oh, those scrappy pilots.
Those band of brothers.
We happy few.
dan friesen
This is absolutely pathetic, and it's really the face of Alex Jones.
He's making shit up to help his listeners not experience reality that he finds inconvenient, even in the context of lying about people fighting a war against an invading country.
This is just debased stuff, and like, as the kids say, he should probably just take the L and move on.
Do kids still say that?
jordan holmes
I don't think kids do, but grown-up adults like us do.
dan friesen
I feel like I see it on Twitter, and I assume that's the kids.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you would assume that Twitter is the kids, but again, Twitter, not the kids.
Kids aren't anywhere near Twitter.
dan friesen
Shit.
jordan holmes
Twitter's for old dum-dums like us.
dan friesen
Twitter is no longer on fleek.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
It is off fleek.
jordan holmes
It is thoroughly off fleek.
Fleek is nowhere near Twitter anymore.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is a quizabuck.
unidentified
It's...
dan friesen
So...
jordan holmes
Look.
We're going to have to pause.
dan friesen
Would you prefer I say a Duke-tastrophe?
jordan holmes
No, I love it.
dan friesen
So, this sucks.
And this is Alex's way of trying to get around the fact that this has not come to pass.
The lack of resistance.
But he still wants to hold on to a lot of it.
alex jones
The leadership stood down.
And that's why Zelensky's hanging out with the fraud of frauds.
Hollywood people and all the rest of it, because behind the scenes, from my sources, Zelensky's actually a double agent working for Putin.
unidentified
Oh, I wouldn't doubt it.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
So this just has to do with Zelensky getting interviewed by Sean Penn.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I believe.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
So he clearly has not left Kiev and has essentially created a folk hero level mythology about himself surrounding his unwillingness to back down as a leader.
What Alex is saying is completely out of touch with reality, and it's super offensive, at least in part because it's just Alex making shit up in order to pretend that the real world matches his conspiracy worldview, which is very dumb.
A dumb worldview.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is not letting the truth and reality lead your coverage.
It's having a predetermined conclusion and literally ignoring the truth and making up your own false reality so you can protect and maintain your predetermined conclusions.
It's abusive to the audience, and it's pretty much all Alex can do because his politics suck and he has nothing to offer in terms of...
Yeah.
And there's a secondary thing here, too, and I don't believe that it's necessarily fully what's motivating this, but Zelensky...
Is really doing some great PR work.
jordan holmes
Oh, he's killing it.
dan friesen
And that's a threat to Russia and Putin.
Putin's standing in the world certainly is threatened by the image of the leadership that is being exhibited by Zelensky.
And I do think that there is a slight piece of this that is trying to...
Tarnish or create like, oh, it's all fake.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And I think that there is a part of it that is in service of trying to retain some image of Putin, at least in as much as Alex has invested in that as like the champion against the globalists.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, there's no way for you to continue saying that Putin is the champion of the globalists after he didn't just start a war and try and take over a country.
But also lost.
Or is a loser.
dan friesen
Well, it's hard for a strong man to look strong in defeat.
jordan holmes
Yeah, especially whenever the guy that you're going up against is theoretically just a comedian slash actor who doesn't have the mystique or the power behind him.
dan friesen
It wasn't KGB.
jordan holmes
Nope, he's just some guy who just won't fucking give up.
dan friesen
And to be clear, we're recording this middle of the day on Sunday and anything could happen.
It's a shocking turn of events.
That's more we're talking about as opposed to a strong man literally losing.
He has lost in as much as he has not taken over the country easily.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
That is a loss.
jordan holmes
It is the loss of what has been his most powerful weapon, which is he looks like he's the fucking most evil supervillain strong man in the world.
And he does whatever he wants without anybody getting in his way.
And he can make people disappear whenever he wants.
And guess what?
If you can't do that, you don't want people to find out.
dan friesen
Yeah, it hurts.
jordan holmes
It hurts.
dan friesen
So, I almost said Charles Schwab.
Yeah, he's evil.
jordan holmes
Charles Schwab.
dan friesen
Charles Schwab wants to do the Great Reset.
unidentified
You know what?
jordan holmes
I bet Charles Schwab is evil.
I bet he is!
dan friesen
Klaus Schwab, on the other hand.
jordan holmes
Nice guy!
dan friesen
He wants to kill everyone.
alex jones
And I know you want to go watch a movie, you want to go play pool, you want to go eat some...
Enchiladas are a stake.
You want to go for a hike?
You want to swim around in the local pool?
You're like me.
You're just a normal person who wants to have a life.
You're not Klaus Schwab.
He wants to kill you.
He sees you as scum.
He sees you living on his land.
They stole the world through fraud, and they want us dead.
And if we let them kill us, we deserve it, in his view.
And I think I kind of agree with him.
It's survival of the fittest.
I don't think he's the fittest.
I don't think our species should act like this.
I think he's the disease, not us.
What do you think?
You want us to die, buddy boy?
Well, in the words of Emperor Palpatine, no, no, no, no.
unidentified
You will die.
alex jones
But I don't mean that in an evil way like Palpatine.
I mean, politically, we're going to defeat and kill your ideas.
But not harm a little hair on that head.
Wouldn't want that to happen, you sack of murdering filth.
dan friesen
Well, that sends mixed messages, huh?
jordan holmes
There's a lot of mixed messages in there.
dan friesen
Wonder if that's an intentional strategy Alex uses to incite his audience towards violence while simultaneously providing cover for himself in terms of plausible deniability.
jordan holmes
No, that doesn't sound right.
dan friesen
What a piece of shit.
jordan holmes
I do appreciate when you see a fiction writer's hands behind a character's motivations, where he's just like...
Charles Schwab!
unidentified
Klaus.
jordan holmes
Klaus Schwab.
That's going to happen forever now.
It's all done.
dan friesen
I broke the dam.
jordan holmes
You broke it.
Yep, my head's gone.
Klaus Schwab thinks it's okay if you just sit down and let him kill you.
That's fine.
Now, I think that too.
And you're like, then he only thinks it because you think it, Alex.
dan friesen
He thinks it if you don't fight back, then you deserve...
jordan holmes
Exactly.
And he thinks that because Alex thinks that.
That's how the...
Yeah.
unidentified
You will die!
dan friesen
Yeah!
Also, Klaus Straub has lightning powers.
jordan holmes
He does!
He does!
You have to be real strong with the dark side.
unidentified
Beep, beep, beep, beep.
dan friesen
Uh-oh, that's the breaking news alarm.
Breaking news alarm!
unidentified
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
What happened?
dan friesen
Did you hear that pew, pew, pew?
jordan holmes
I heard it, but I thought it was the fire alarm.
dan friesen
No, it's the breaking news alarm.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
An article has just been posted on Natural News.
alex jones
All right, this mega-massive naturalnews.com story just broke.
It's at infowars.com.
I suggest you share it.
unidentified
Woo!
alex jones
And this is another piece of the puzzle.
We know what's going on.
We know Omicron was made in a lab by White Hats.
The scan's complete.
jordan holmes
Wait, by White Hats?
alex jones
More than 50 changes, but 20-plus in one area, 30-plus in another, to kill the spike protein and make it weak.
And then give you immunity to the spike protein itself.
Very sophisticated genetic engineering.
Totally.
So sophisticated.
Which has now come out.
And so that's what's pissing.
It still gets you sick, but nothing like the other variants.
dan friesen
Well, I'm glad.
I can't wait for this to fall apart and Alex not use this as part of his narrative in the future because it's...
So dumb.
jordan holmes
Just never going to talk about this one again.
dan friesen
So good guys in the virus-creating community.
jordan holmes
Right.
White hats.
dan friesen
Right.
They made Omicron as a way to provide immunity for everyone.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
While at the same time killing the spike protein.
So I guess that means it cures the vaccine.
According to him.
jordan holmes
It's a disease-cure disease.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Or it's a vaccine disease curing disease vaccine.
dan friesen
Man, I wouldn't believe this if I hadn't heard it from the health ranger.
alex jones
I gotta be honest.
jordan holmes
What kind of dumb white hat hacker or biologist or whatever?
dan friesen
Virus creator.
jordan holmes
Virus creator.
Alright, alright.
I won't reveal that the whole thing is evil.
That would destabilize things too much.
I will just make the dramatic movie-esque version of the disease itself that cures the disease.
dan friesen
Right, I picture it being a team of two people.
One of them is like, oh my god.
I must alert the media.
And the other one grabs him by the shirt collar.
unidentified
You fool!
dan friesen
There's no time!
alex jones
We have to make Omicron!
jordan holmes
I mean, this is the plot of Cowboy Bebop the movie.
There are nanomachines that kill people, and then they're like, we gotta stop this, so they make nanomachines to stop the nanomachines.
It's the same fucking thing.
dan friesen
Well, maybe Alex has been branching out from his dystopian sci-fi to Cowboy Bebop.
jordan holmes
Best soundtrack.
Yoko Kano!
dan friesen
So at this point, on the 25th, Putin has made a call for the Ukrainian military to perform a coup.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Which was a swing.
That's a Zagami-level swing right there.
dan friesen
Yeah, Alex thinks it's a great idea.
alex jones
I mean, look at this Reuters article that's out right now.
Or is that Bloomberg?
Putin calls on Ukrainian military to seize power to better negotiate with Russia because he knows it's a bunch of globalist factions in there and a bunch of former presidents jockeying for control.
He's like, listen, I'll negotiate with the military, which is a very smart move.
I would expect this to be over in 48 hours.
What do you think?
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
So first of all, Alex is applauding Putin going on TV and asking the Ukrainian soldiers to turn on their government and overthrow Zelensky.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Alex is a piece of shit.
jordan holmes
You should have a military coup, the thing that I love.
dan friesen
Secondarily, though, Yeah.
Yeah.
He's talking about how smart Putin is to make moves, like attempting to foment a coup.
He loses track of the other shit that he said, and he starts floating.
stuff about how this is going to end in two days.
Right.
unidentified
On one hand, this is the byproduct of Alex not preparing at all and having no actual position on things past knee-jerk reactions and hyper-oppositional defiance.
dan friesen
On the other hand, it's also part of an intentional strategy to overwhelm the audience with nonsensical and self-contradictory positions so they can't possibly keep track of what's actually being said on the show except for the feelings that Alex creates in them.
We've listened to the past week or so of the show, and I can't really tell you what Alex thinks is happening or not happening because he's been all over the place.
He has no consistency except in terms of the feeling that he's selling He's selling fear, and beyond that, he's selling the feeling that Putin is right and is fighting against these globalist boogeymen that Alex has trained the audience to fear.
The information itself is constantly changing and being remolded with new lies, but the emotional core is really what he's selling in terms of this performance.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and you can see how excited he gets, like the opportunity to riff with somebody.
He's like, oh, that's a good one.
Oh, okay, so I think this thing's gonna be over in like 48 hours.
What do you think?
Like, you didn't need to stop and be like...
How does this fit in?
dan friesen
He would be the best and worst person to have in a writer's room.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Also, it's 48 hours later now and the war hasn't ended, so chalk that one up on my compilation of times that Alex got his predictions totally wrong.
jordan holmes
Well, you've got a longer compilation.
dan friesen
I do.
It's not seven minutes.
It's 600 episodes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say, it's a long string.
dan friesen
Yup.
So Alex has a guest on.
jordan holmes
Yay!
dan friesen
It's a guy named Royce White, who's a former basketball player, former NBA player.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
He's running for Congress in Minnesota.
alex jones
Royce White joins us for two segments.
I really appreciate him coming on.
He just announced a few days ago that he's running for Congress, and he's a super smart guy.
I'm not supporting him in his run against Ilhan Omar because he's a famous NBA player and MMA guy or all that.
But because he stood up for everybody and against tyranny and against the Democratic Party and against the corrupt Republicans and against the Chinese communists and the Uyghur persecution.
dan friesen
So there's two things that I need to make totally clear.
The first is that Alex doesn't give a shit about the Uyghurs.
He just pretends to, so he can use them as a prop to attack the Chinese government.
He said on the show in the past that he doesn't care what the Chinese do to them if China would just leave him alone.
The second thing is that Alex would endorse one of Mike Lindell's pillows if it was running against Ilhan Omar, so I don't know if I care.
jordan holmes
Don't care.
dan friesen
I don't think this is going to be good for White's campaign to show up on Infowars, and this interview could go severely off track if the topic of racial justice and White's position on George Floyd comes up, because he and Alex do not see eye to eye on that.
jordan holmes
They tend not to.
dan friesen
So here's the deal.
Royce doesn't have a chance of unseating Omar as a Republican, which is how he's running.
Minnesota's 5th district is a Democrat plus 29 district, so in order for a Republican to win, you'd have to basically be running unopposed.
And even though Omar gets a lot of shit from the right-wing media, she's pretty popular in the home district.
This gets a bit murky, though, because there's been chaos brewing in the Minnesota 2022 midterms.
going on over redistricting.
And if that hadn't been resolved in time, Minnesota was talking about having to have an at-large election where the political parties put up a field, they field a slate of candidates, and then the top nine vote-getters of all of the candidates would win seats in the House.
unidentified
Jesus.
dan friesen
In that situation, he could possibly have won one of them along with Omar.
But from everything I can tell, the redistricting has been resolved.
So that process being done, there's no chance.
And the redistricting of the 5th District.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If White wanted to win, he should have run against Omar in the Democratic primary.
He has widespread name recognition as a former NBA player and though she's won her two Democratic primaries by decent margins, Omar is a bit more vulnerable there than she is in the general election.
Anyway, this appears to be another doomed congressional candidate showing up on InfoWars where Alex will ultimately create the impression that they're so far ahead in the polls and the only way they can lose is cheating, and then they'll lose and Alex will forget about this game until the next election cycle where it'll repeat all over again.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And it's fun.
jordan holmes
Yep.
After he loses, Royce White will never be heard from again on InfoWars.
dan friesen
No, that didn't happen to Deanna Lorraine.
jordan holmes
Nope, nope, didn't happen.
Nope.
dan friesen
Laura Loomer's name can't possibly be uttered only by Roger Stone.
jordan holmes
No, I'm sure Royce is going to have a job.
dan friesen
He actually is far more into Alex's narratives than I would have hoped.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
Yeah.
I kind of hoped that...
Because I was looking up...
I don't know much about him, but he was an advocate for mental health issues.
In his time in the NBA.
And then he did have some involvement with protests in the wake of George Floyd's killing.
And so I kind of had this thought that like, oh, maybe this is just a guy who doesn't know what he's getting into going on Infowars.
But immediately he's like, Alex, I'm a huge fan.
I'm like, oh no.
jordan holmes
Yep.
It's like when we had KRS-One on there.
dan friesen
So the interview itself, I don't really care about all that much.
But there are a couple things that end up getting said by Alex that are, oof.
He's trying to argue that White needs to be in the House.
unidentified
Ah, yes.
dan friesen
We need him.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He realizes that he's complaining about Ilhan Omar and AOC, and he has to sort of be like, I don't want no women in power.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it gets out of control.
alex jones
And, you know, women are great.
I hope we get a bunch of women in Congress.
But at the end of the day, we need men to be men again.
Can you imagine Congress full of men like Royce White at RoyceWhite.us?
Can you imagine black, white, Hispanic, old, young?
I don't give a damn, but men again.
We need men to stand up and realize it's their responsibility to be leaders.
It's a genetic fact.
dan friesen
Wow.
Okay, so it's a genetic fact that men should be most of the, or all of the House in Congress.
jordan holmes
I mean, that, it's, really?
Let me ask you a question.
When was the last time that there was a female majority in Congress, Dan?
dan friesen
I mean, wasn't it in 2018?
unidentified
Well, I mean, there would be, there would be.
dan friesen
Jordan, there would be a female majority if it wasn't for the genetics.
jordan holmes
Ooh, the genetics!
I forgot about them.
That's why every time I go outside, I can't help but lead something.
Every time I've been in Walgreens, I've led a revolution.
dan friesen
Every time you come over here to record, there's like a marching band.
jordan holmes
Every time.
It's like I'm the music man.
76 trombones, man.
I got them out there.
dan friesen
And so, Alex has a few more thoughts on this subject that are...
unidentified
That's fucking nuts.
dan friesen
Yeah, it is.
It's deeply, deeply misogynistic.
jordan holmes
I mean, it doesn't get more obvious.
dan friesen
And he has a few more points to make.
alex jones
And women have their office, and women can do anything they want.
But women want men to lead.
They don't, on average, want a bunch of power to be running stuff.
And any system that sells women being in charge, it doesn't really want women in charge.
It wants people they can push around in charge.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
You're the one who just said you wanted more women in Congress.
dan friesen
No, no, no, he doesn't.
jordan holmes
And he was literally selling the idea that he does want women in Congress.
unidentified
No, no, no.
dan friesen
He wants to give lip service to the idea that he doesn't want no women in Congress.
But yeah, if women are in charge, that's really just some nefarious plot by another man who wants somebody to push around.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
He has a real abuse-based worldview.
unidentified
Yeah, I am shocked that...
jordan holmes
That's allowed.
I mean, that's some Cro-Magnon man shit right there.
That's like, well, I mean, obviously, I have a larger club, so I can hit you, so I'm the leader.
dan friesen
It's also scared.
jordan holmes
Oh, terrified.
dan friesen
He's scared.
That's what he's expressing.
unidentified
What if women take over and all of the things that I'm a man about don't become important anymore?
jordan holmes
Oh, I'm so scared.
dan friesen
It's dumb.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So he has this interview with Royce White, and then he takes some calls, and then it's the end of the show, and it's pretty dumb.
But he does have one caller that I think is actually worth bringing attention to.
alex jones
Thank you so much for holding.
We're going to go in the order that received Mankind in Arizona.
You're first up.
Thank you for holding.
Go ahead.
Oh, my God!
unidentified
Oh, my God!
dan friesen
It's Mankind!
Baba Foley's baby boy is here!
alex jones
He's got a 2x4!
unidentified
Oh, my God.
alex jones
Come on.
jordan holmes
I swear to god.
dan friesen
What are you gonna do?
jordan holmes
I'm not gonna do anything.
I'm just gonna enjoy it.
He's gonna lean back.
I'm gonna put my mic down and I'm gonna smile.
unidentified
If Alex has a caller named Mankind, it's a foregone conclusion.
dan friesen
Anyway, I had to end things on...
jordan holmes
Was it really Mankind?
dan friesen
Yes.
No, no, it wasn't Mick Foley.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay, okay.
dan friesen
It was just some weirdo who calls himself Mankind.
jordan holmes
Because I was like...
I know Mick Foley's actually a good dude, right?
Why is he showing up as mankind on InfoWars 30 years later as a caller?
What's happening?
dan friesen
No, it's just a strange dude.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Thank God.
dan friesen
Yeah, so I figure this episode sucks in a lot of ways in terms of the content.
Why not leave on a high note?
So yeah, I think that Alex is dealing with the invasion incredibly poorly.
jordan holmes
He's doing great.
dan friesen
What?
We have a disagreement.
jordan holmes
No, I thought he was just killing it.
dan friesen
And he's revealed all too clearly that he is a staunch supporter of Putin's actions.
jordan holmes
I just didn't know that Bill Gates created Moderna in order to facilitate Putin doing...
Wait, I really don't understand what he's even trying to get at anymore.
dan friesen
Well...
C. Natural News has proven that Omicron was invented by a good bioweapon.
jordan holmes
Oh, so that's Omicron Persei 9. Also, let's think about this for a second.
dan friesen
That would be a bioweapon.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Just because, presumably, the person who's releasing it thinks it's going to be good.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Shouldn't Alex be like, hey, this is deeply irresponsible.
What if something goes wrong with this white hat Omicron bioweapon that's been released?
Isn't this against the Geneva Conventions?
What about informed consent?
jordan holmes
Let me throw this at you.
Has there ever been a 100% effective virus?
dan friesen
What do you mean?
Effective at what?
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Could it be?
There's no way that you can make a virus like an Omicron.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Even if it's to destroy other viruses, without also eventually causing some problems to people.
dan friesen
Oh yeah, it would mutate.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's how it works.
dan friesen
Yeah, but it was a good guy.
This is stupid.
Everything Alex has to say is stupid, and I really want to draw sharp focus too, and I think we achieved that.
The video that he posted about his prediction is full of shit.
And if you really trace down the sources, you see the actual intentional misrepresentation of the things that he said in the original episodes in order to create the appearance of predictive power.
And now he's using that to gain more credibility for his justifications of Putin's invasion of Ukraine.
And I think it's abhorrent and something that should not...
Be forgotten as time goes on.
jordan holmes
No, he's very much 100% for Putin invading Ukraine.
dan friesen
I mean, it should be albatross shit, you know, around his neck.
jordan holmes
So it should be.
dan friesen
So, we'll be back.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
My friend.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
Do we?
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed Jordan.
dan friesen
Yeah, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I am Dr. Marbles.
steve quayle
Here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
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