Today, Dan and Jordan continue to be astounded by Alex Jones' terrible coverage of Putin's invasion of Ukraine. In this installment, Alex throws a tantrum, either because the pressure is getting to him, or because he just prepared too much for this episode. Citations
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and George. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| Little word, little word, little word. | ||
| Deep, deep. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
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I'm Dan. | |
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are. | ||
| Dan? | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Dan? | ||
| Jordan. | ||
| Quick question for you. | ||
| What's up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today? | ||
| My bright spot today, Jordan, is that we are on the Behind the Bastards this week. | ||
| Indeed we are. | ||
| It's very nice to have a nice time and sit down with old Robert and Sophie. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| What a delight. | ||
| It was a... | ||
| Grand old time to talk about the end of, I don't know, I guess Christianity being nice. | ||
| The beginning of something else. | ||
| Something, yeah. | ||
| No spoilers. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, sorry, my bad. | ||
| For what comes up on Thursday. | ||
| Also, it's a lot of us this week. | ||
| If you want Dan and Jordan content, boy, every day. | ||
| I shudder at the thought of someone listening to me. | ||
| Every day. | ||
| Yeah, March is starting out quite overburdened with our voices. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But yeah, so check that out. | ||
| Enjoy it. | ||
| Good times. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| What about you? | ||
| Well, that was going to be My Bright Spot, so you stole that from me. | ||
| But My Bright Spot is very stupid, but I have recently, at the behest of no one, And without telling anyone, I embarked on a little comic strip adventure of my dog Jake traveling through a series of dumb little situations. | ||
| And I finished my story again without telling anybody. | ||
| And Jake is eaten by a shark. | ||
| So it's a tragic end. | ||
| It was a mutiny that did it. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Was Fanny involved in the mutiny? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| She's just a grump. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Maybe she'll have some adventures soon, but I don't know why. | ||
| I just really had fun. | ||
| You've got to amuse yourself somehow. | ||
| I enjoyed it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I don't know why, but that was my bright spot. | ||
| Hey, take them where they come. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. | ||
| We're going to be talking about February 27th, 2022. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| This is the Sunday. | ||
| Episode of Alex's show. | ||
| And I intended to do Sunday and Monday. | ||
| But Sunday, there's too much to talk about, so I can't overburden us. | ||
| There we go. | ||
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Oh, man. | |
| This is something else. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
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Okay. | |
| And that's saying something, considering the path that we've been on over the past week. | ||
| This is a mess. | ||
| And we'll get to it. | ||
| But before we do, let's say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| Oh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, Shanda, I know you're listening to this while you're working, so keep crushing your thesis. | ||
| Dan and Jordan give you their full support, too. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I refuse to let you speak for me, though. | ||
| I don't know anything about this thesis. | ||
| I assume it's academic in nature, so I'll tentatively support. | ||
| Tentatively support. | ||
| Next, little steaky for me. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Continuing the meat theme, none dare call it charcuterie. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, you would think the globalists would stop writing their plans down. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| That does seem to be a plot hole there, yeah. | ||
| Next, Bonky. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| And we got a technocrat up in the mix, so Z-Watt, a.k.a. | ||
| Puka the Globalist Pooch, thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| I have risen above my enemies. | ||
| I might quit tomorrow, actually. | ||
| I'm just gonna take a little breaky now. | ||
| A little breaky for me. | ||
| And then we're going to come back, and I'm going to start the show over. | ||
| But I'm the devil! | ||
| I've got to be taken off the air! | ||
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Fuck you! | |
| Fuck you! | ||
| I've got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your New World Order, and fuck the horse you rode in on, and all your shit! | ||
| Maybe today should be my last broadcast. | ||
| Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. | ||
| Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow, and you never see me again. | ||
| That's really what I want to do. | ||
| I never want to come back here again. | ||
| I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. | ||
| I'll be better tomorrow. | ||
| He ain't. | ||
| He's not better. | ||
| Are you sure? | ||
| He's really bad. | ||
| Oh boy, did he get on a little bit too much of the Putin train on this one? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'll let you decide. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| Well, if there's a question. | ||
| Shit's bad. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| So one thing I wanted to touch on is that on our last episode, we talked about that video that Alex did about his... | ||
| Supposed prediction of the war. | ||
| And I didn't predict that that narrative would be getting so much traffic with the Alex crowd. | ||
| Or the anti-Alex crowd. | ||
| The whole, like, he predicted the war. | ||
| They're now saying, wow, he did it? | ||
| I think that I've seen far too many people tweeting nonsense about how this prediction is proof that he's a Russian asset. | ||
| He's getting information from Russian intelligence. | ||
| And possibly, like, Daria is his handler. | ||
| If we saw anything with... | ||
| The depositions. | ||
| It's that Daria could not handle being someone's handler for an intelligence operation. | ||
| She's terrifying enough, but no. | ||
| She does not have... | ||
| I wouldn't... | ||
| If I were in charge of a country's intelligence assets... | ||
| I wouldn't trust her organization skills. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| So engaging with Alex's material is often difficult because it draws you in. | ||
| People who want to see his stupid prediction video as proof that he works for Russia are already past the point where Alex wants to lure them to because they've adopted his fundamental premise, namely that he did actually predict this war. | ||
| Whether you see that video and herald him as a prophet or you accuse him of being a foreign asset, either way, you're playing his game. | ||
| Both conclusions feed into his own attention economy and involve a belief that things that Alex says are worth paying attention to and not just random bullshit he throws out. | ||
| So I would be cautious. | ||
| I want to caution people to not fall into the opposite trap. | ||
| Begin from the Occam's razor point of this man is always lying. | ||
| I don't know if that's wise either, because I think that could blind you to... | ||
| I mean, Alex Jones. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I understand that. | ||
| It could blind you to the... | ||
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I was going to say, get the fuck out of here, man. | |
| I think it's a bad process, though. | ||
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Fair. | |
| I think you can train yourself to draw too many hasty conclusions. | ||
| I think it's just more of, if you can... | ||
| Set the practice of, like, okay, what is this information? | ||
| It's exhausting as somebody who engages in that. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But it's better. | ||
| So we start here with Alex talking about how, you know, Russia's kind of restrained. | ||
| I'm sorry? | ||
| Yeah, they're a little restrained. | ||
| What you're seeing is a massive, conventional, World War II-style, invasion of Ukraine. | ||
| And I'm not lionizing the Russians or Putin, but if they wanted to clear out those areas, they would just drop heavy munitions on them and cluster bombs. | ||
| But because they don't want a high civilian casualty, they are facing massive casualties with their infantry going in to the areas because they have been ordered. | ||
| To attack people that have guns after they've got them in their sights or they're being fired upon. | ||
| And so that is why there is a large Russian death toll. | ||
| From what I've been seeing, I would imagine there's 20,000 dead Russian troops, not 5,000 like the Ukrainians are saying. | ||
| And I would imagine there are also tens of thousands of dead Ukrainians, but you're not going to ever be hearing about that. | ||
| I have very little patience for Alex saying that he doesn't lionize Putin after the whole pageant last week where he's going on and on about Putin being the most honest world leader and someone Alex couldn't find faults with. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Alex right now is trying to moderate his insane admiration for Putin. | ||
| And it's just an affectation he's putting on because Putin is invading a sovereign neighbor and things are getting a little... | ||
| Serious. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They're getting a little bit too serious, so he's giving some lip service. | ||
| Yeah, the moment that this conflict is, however it concludes, Alex will immediately be back on, like, well, Putin got a raw deal on this, or whatever. | ||
| Or maybe before, even. | ||
| But he will give lip service to trying to appear more moderate. | ||
| When it's just threats flying around, that's the time to be emphatic in your support. | ||
| But once civilians are being killed, it's time to pretend to be a neutral party so you don't end up having people make you feel bad for... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's entirely possible that the fatality counts are higher than what's being reported now, but pretty much every report you see on the number of casualties includes that caveat, that while hostilities are ongoing, it's really hard to get precise numbers. | ||
| For that reason, I don't really take too much of an issue with Alex's insinuation that the current numbers may be low. | ||
| I think his speculation of how far off the reported numbers are might be a little loose, but the thing I find more morally objectionable is his claim that that you'll never hear about the higher death tolls. | ||
| My God. | ||
| Alex is so addicted to conspiracies that he just injects them into almost every sentence that comes out of his mouth. | ||
| Part of this is probably due to him being an idiot, but there's an element of this that's actually a pretty clear strategic tactic designed to train his listeners to be distrustful of every source of information that isn't him or something that Alex has indicated is one of the good ones, like Gateway Pundit or Natural News. | ||
| Any reality is under question until I authoritatively give you the belief that you should have. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| Yes, it's super toxic stuff, and it's just meant to insulate the audience in a bubble where they can't take seriously any reporting or information that proves the central Infowars narrative to be wrong. | ||
| Alex has to spread distrust of all other media sources because he's rightly scared that if his audience actually took in a broader scope of sources for information, he'd be fucked. | ||
| And so one of his primary, even subconscious, behaviors is to constantly inject insinuations or outright claims that you'll never know the truth about various things. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's, um, yeah. | ||
| I don't know, it's... | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| I listen to this, and especially that, and I mean, there is something fucked up about being a part of the American media consumer base insofar as because the United States has committed so many war crimes and has either lied about it or... | ||
| Tried to obfuscate or tried to hide or any number of those things. | ||
| Alex can say, you know, well, when they go in there, they want a low civilian death toll so they don't cluster bomb. | ||
| No. | ||
| Cluster bombing a fucking city is a war crime. | ||
| A literal war crime. | ||
| You can't just blasé say, oh, they don't want to have a high civilian. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It's wrong. | ||
| Like, on a fundamental level. | ||
| No, I agree. | ||
| I agree, and I think that, you know, to the point that there's a fine criticism to make of U.S. foreign policy and the wars that we've had... | ||
| It doesn't really have a bearing on whether or not this is right. | ||
| And I'm not saying that you're saying that. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I'm just saying that that's part of how the media allows us to speak of it as though it's not something that should be treated as you cannot cross that line. | ||
| Not like, oh, they don't want to. | ||
| I mean, like, literally, you cannot. | ||
| And the problem is that we have. | ||
| And that doesn't bear on this, but that does bear on how we talk about it. | ||
| If that makes sense to you. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It does sort of have guardrails for what seems to come up in a lot of media pieces. | ||
| That's what I'm trying to get at. | ||
| Not like this is a both sides thing or anything along those lines. | ||
| But I think you will hear some people using that kind of argumentation. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, Alex believes that there's propaganda going around, and boy, is there. | ||
| But... | ||
| The level of propaganda coming out from all different angles, both the Russians and NATO and all of it, is just staggering levels of BS. | ||
| But I gotta say, as usual, the West has clearly topped Russia in all of it, including hypocrisy, with all the massive censorship going on over here, and then you've got them demonizing Russia for their censorship, which I do not support either. | ||
| This is a profoundly stupid position for Alex to have, and even he knows that what he's saying is bullshit, and it's just a desperate attempt to justify Putin's invasion by making a both sides are equally guilty argument, like we were talking about a minute ago. | ||
| Just discussing how stupid it is. | ||
| So weird how this position has evolved from real bombastic yelling about Putin being great to cowardly middle-of-the-road bullshit about both sides having problems. | ||
| This isn't a serious position Alex has. | ||
| He just knows that he can get his audience to excuse and justify Putin's extreme crackdowns on journalists and protesters by pointing to his own cancel culture narratives that he's trained the audience to respond to. | ||
| Sure, the patriots have caused some violence, but Black Lives Matter has caused some violence at protests too. | ||
| Why aren't we talking about that instead? | ||
| That's essentially the game that's being played here. | ||
| He uses established talking points as a crutch to get the audience closer to being on Putin's side than they would be if Alex were... | ||
| We're just reporting actual information. | ||
| And that's fine, I guess. | ||
| I mean, it is one of those propaganda efforts that is not aimed at like, oh, okay, we want you to be on Russia's team. | ||
| It's more aimed on, we don't want you to be on Ukraine's team. | ||
| We want you to be in the middle of like... | ||
| You know what? | ||
| This just, you know, whatever it is. | ||
| Yeah, I would say that it is less an attempt to make Putin look good, and it is an attempt to make Putin look less bad. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| Which has the same motivation as someone who's trying to make Putin look good. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Which is to keep you from condemning what Putin's doing in the way that you should. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Also, I think it's an insult to say, I think Alex accidentally insulted Putin whenever he was like, as usual, the U.S. Man, as usual, you're cutting Putin short. | ||
| He's had some wins. | ||
| I think he'd probably let that go, though. | ||
| You think? | ||
| I don't know him personally, but we're going to talk to somebody who does know him personally later. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Steve Pachenik? | ||
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Nope. | |
| But also a liar. | ||
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Oh, well, fair. | |
| So, speaking of liars, Alex decides that it's time to... | ||
| Let's reset the narratives. | ||
| Let's try and come up with a way to rewrite the story of what I've been saying this whole time. | ||
| Everything you've heard, I didn't say. | ||
| But here's what I did say. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Let's be very clear. | ||
| I think Putin's bit off more than he can chew. | ||
| I said that before the invasion began. | ||
| Didn't. | ||
| And I said that the globalists are going to try to stage cyber attacks against themselves. | ||
| And that once they've done that, they could really ratchet up things with the Russians that could lead to a regional tactical nuclear war and then probably a full-scale nuclear war because of just the satanic evil running our world. | ||
| I mean, we're really close to that. | ||
| So this is probably going to be Alex's talking point moving forward, that these were his positions as it was related to the standoff and then the invasion of Ukraine. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And it's all a lie. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| For one thing, there wasn't really a consistent position Alex has had through any of this time. | ||
| Like, he waffled around and made shit up all over the place. | ||
| But there are some elements that popped up more regularly and you can use as kind of a... | ||
| A guiding through line through what he was talking about. | ||
| One of Alex's beginning points on this whole thing was on February 8th, when Alex watched an approximately one-minute clip posted in a Daily Mail article of a speech that Putin gave, and he decided that Putin was on the brink of firing nukes to destroy all of Europe. | ||
| So Alex enjoyed that narrative quite a bit because it allowed him to descend into really long and vivid descriptions of how nuclear war would kick off and maybe we all kind of deserve to be nuked because of abortion or whatever. | ||
| Even prior to this, but escalating as the tensions rose between Russia and Ukraine, Alex's central theory was that a false flag was going to be run by Biden in order to gain support for himself during the midterms or take attention away from the trucker convoys, which Alex was insisting was the key to defeat the globalists. | ||
| This is the narrative he was selling on February 11th, on the day that Biden announced that he would not send troops into Ukraine to fight Russia because that would be a world war. | ||
| Now, if you put this together with all the other pieces that would take an hour to go through, I'm just going to give you the answer from my view rather than rattle off all why I think that, because it would take the whole show, what we've got left. | ||
| But here's one big slice of the equation, why we know this, and why this is so bad and so horrible. | ||
| It even has me having an anxiety attack right now, because I love my children, I love peace, I love justice. | ||
| If you think they're just going to let us beat them on this whole lockdown thing and go away, you're crazy. | ||
| They're going to start a damn war. | ||
| I just cannot believe we're this cursed. | ||
| My God. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| These people make me sick. | ||
| So from there, Alex's coverage was mostly about justifying Putin taking military action in the Donbass region, because according to Alex's fake version of an interview Soros did on CNN, Soros had actually overthrown Ukraine. | ||
| Everything I say, you can look up. | ||
| And it's open to interpretation, but you can look up anything I say. | ||
| When I say George Soros overthrew Ukraine for the globalist, he went on Fareed Zakaria eight years ago and bragged. | ||
| I played the clip many times. | ||
| You can just put it on screen if you want, guys. | ||
| Just the article or the B-roll. | ||
| And bragged, well, yes, I overthrew Ukraine with five billion dollars. | ||
| He parroted all of Putin's talking points about how NATO was attacking Donetsk and Luhansk, which Alex reported as areas that should be part of Russia or were rightfully being occupied by Russia. | ||
| He repeated the claims that the kindergarten was shelled. | ||
| That was actually a false flag pulled by Ukraine. | ||
| He claimed that Western forces were going door-to-door, killing people in an ethnic cleansing of the Donbass region. | ||
| He did literally everything he could to make sure that the audience thought that if violence did break out, it only happened because the West was so evil and it forced Putin to respond. | ||
| He was literally saying that on February 18th. | ||
| Here's the bottom line. | ||
| The globalists believe Putin when they launched offensives into eastern Ukraine to drive the Russians out and then now into other areas the Russians control there in the south that When they finally attack Crimea, the Russians will have a red line and that Putin will be deposed by hardliners if he doesn't attack back. | ||
| And so Putin's being driven into a corner to be induced to fight back, which will then be called a war. | ||
| Though there were a lot of details that would get fudged here and there and things would move around, this point was pretty clear and consistent. | ||
| Any fighting was to be seen by the audience as NATO and Biden's fault, and if Putin did something that looked bad on paper, it might be a false flag, and even if it's a real thing he did, he only did it because the Western powers forced him to. | ||
| Yeah, he would have loved to not do it. | ||
| There's nothing he wants less to do than war crimes. | ||
| But Soros is meddling. | ||
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Sometimes when Soros walks up to your door, you got a war crime, man. | |
| Putin gave a speech announcing that he was going to recognize Donetsk and Luhansk on February 21st, and Alex was beside himself with how much he supported what he pretended Putin was saying. | ||
| He is apologizing for communism, saying that he just wants to enjoy the free market with Ukraine. | ||
| And that wasn't even Alex's stance after the invasion. | ||
| On February 24th, Alex had to deal with the fact that he'd been duped by Russian propaganda and that Putin was definitely planning to invade the whole country while saying publicly that he wasn't going to do that, which Alex repeated as truth to his audience. | ||
| But even at that point, when Alex was shown to have been very wrong, he still wasn't saying that Putin had bit off more than he could chew. | ||
| Alex was very insistent that Putin had already won the war because he had paid off the Ukrainian leadership, so Russian forces would just be up against no resistance. | ||
| Putin's troops raise Russian flag in Ukraine as Z-tanks, which have come from the east, and O-tanks that come from Belarus enter deeper into the nation. | ||
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And there is no real resistance. | |
| Because just like the U.S. bought off the Iraqi leadership in Gulf War I and Gulf War II, 90-plus percent of their generals, you see that Putin has already done his work and has already paid off the Ukrainian military, and that's why the Russians know they can roll right in and face almost no resistance. | ||
| Because that's how real war is done. | ||
| Alex never said that Putin had bitten off more than he could chew. | ||
| He was constantly expressing solidly pro-Putin talking points that revolved around the idea that Putin needed to take over the Donbass in order to protect the Russian speakers there. | ||
| Even after Putin invaded the entire country, Alex was rationalizing his actions by pretending the whole thing was a piece of theater, where Zelensky was a double agent, in on it with Putin and there would be no Ukrainian resistance. | ||
| This bullshit he's saying now is an attempt to whitewash his actual positions Yeah. | ||
| I will grant that Alex has been saying that there's going to be a cyber false flag for a really long time, even prior to this standoff. | ||
| Like, in our last episode, we played a clip from July of last year where he and Leo Zagami were insisting that a false flag cyber attack was right around the corner. | ||
| This isn't actually a meaningful prediction, though, and it's just Alex laying the groundwork, so in case there ever is a cyber attack, he needs to pretend... | ||
| Isn't real? | ||
| You can claim that he was predicting a false cyber attack, and this is it. | ||
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Right. | |
| That was a fucking year ago. | ||
| Which everyone assumes will happen sooner or later, so it's not like... | ||
| Yeah, I mean, everybody's like, well, cyber attack is going to happen sooner. | ||
| There are a lot of vulnerabilities, and there are a lot of nefarious people who are pretty good with computers. | ||
| It's not a good prediction so much as it is like, hey, this is how tech works. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I'm going to write a story in advance, should it ever happen in a way that's inconvenient. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So I can pin the blame on my imaginary enemies. | ||
| Klaus Schwab. | ||
| Bingo. | ||
| Charles Schwab. | ||
| And his beautiful computer machines. | ||
| Which is named Charles. | ||
| Ah, that's the trick. | ||
| Klaus Schwab named his computer Charles. | ||
| He named his computer Charles like deep blue. | ||
| It's Charles Schwab. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| So now back to the 27th. | ||
| Alex talks about the headline for the show. | ||
| Sunday Live. | ||
| Hooten warns the world is on the brink of nuclear war. | ||
| As NATO ramps up arms, shipments, and sanctions against Russia. | ||
| Think about that, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| And we have the video of him saying it. | ||
| Unlike corporate establishment globalist media and their empire of lies, when I tell you something or I make a claim, I show you the clip. | ||
| This is kind of Alex's Orwellian moment. | ||
| Russia is invading Ukraine, but the situation is really that the West and NATO are attacking Russia by supporting Ukraine and levying sanctions. | ||
| There's no other way to really look at this other than Alex just hates Western democracies and would like to see the international community thrown into chaos. | ||
| He can fuck right off with this, unlike the media, I actually play clips bullshit. | ||
| Who doesn't play clips? | ||
| Nobody. | ||
| It's just a petulant lashing out against the poorly defined nebulous group everyone's supposed to hate, the dreaded media. | ||
| Again, this is just a strategy Alex used to sow distrust in all sources that are not himself or things he has ordained as good. | ||
| He can never really miss an opportunity to take a swipe to remind the listeners that he's the real journalist, or at least until he's a Under oath. | ||
| And then there's a completely different story. | ||
| I mean, he's an entertainer. | ||
| Also, Empire of Lies is a quote from Putin. | ||
| Oh, great. | ||
| Using a term that Putin used in his speech. | ||
| It's just a parody. | ||
| It is just like, you can't do that. | ||
| We have novels. | ||
| We have novels where people do that and they're the bad people. | ||
| How can you do that and not be immediately like, oh yeah, I'm the bad person. | ||
| You can do it. | ||
| You can do it. | ||
| You should just be a little bit less of a coward and own your positions. | ||
| Well, I mean... | ||
| And he doesn't. | ||
| Yeah, that's fair. | ||
| He wants to pretend he has this moderate distance from things, but he's just acting as a mouthpiece. | ||
| He's a fanboy, too. | ||
| I think that's the thing. | ||
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He's a fan. | |
| That's what's getting me. | ||
| He's a simp. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| I mean, you know, people who are like, oh, he's a Russian asset or something like that. | ||
| I think he's more like the nerd weirdos who are like Elon Musk super fans. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| He'd be a reply guy. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| He was still on Twitter. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Yeah, and I think that you see that in so many different parts of his life, you know, with the anti-communist intelligentsia, let's say. | ||
| He's a fanboy of like G. Edward Griffin and these old fucks who are in the John Birch Society. | ||
| And the same thing is true of the militias and stuff. | ||
| He fanboys out over these fucking weirdos who like to do exercises with guns in the woods. | ||
| It's just like how he fanboys out over Star Wars. | ||
| It's just higher stakes. | ||
| And also he claims that he doesn't. | ||
| He's never seen it. | ||
| Yeah, it's just kind of a consistent thing with these, you know... | ||
| John Birch Society ding-dongs, militias, and strongman dictators. | ||
| Yeah, it is weird for him to claim that he's the tip of the spear and yet at the same time has been a perpetual follower and hanger-on. | ||
| He's a retinue guy. | ||
| He's not in the lead of shit. | ||
| No, no, not the tip of the spear at all. | ||
| So Sunday was the day that they were supposed to play that documentary about Alex on CNN. | ||
| Right. | ||
| By the time he's on air, I believe the announcement had already gone out that it wasn't going to air. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Alex is pretending that that has not happened, and it's still going to air, and he has some complaints about it. | ||
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Okay. | |
| He's taking a bit of a high road on this thing. | ||
| Oh, is he? | ||
| Good, good. | ||
| It's time. | ||
| CNN for weeks has been advertising every break, breathlessly, an Alex Jones special tonight, 10 p.m. Eastern, 9 p.m. Central, that I was going to watch live and comment on here. | ||
| But my family's more important, and World War III is more important, and the crisis going on is more important. | ||
| And it's obscene for CNN to air something like that during a time like this. | ||
| And it's not because I'm scared of it. | ||
| It'll make us get more viewers. | ||
| They have a small audience, but still, we'll take them. | ||
| And I already know it's regurgitated lies. | ||
| They sent me questions and wanted me to respond to it. | ||
| Of course, I didn't because it's all BS. | ||
| But I saw the questions. | ||
| It was a bunch of made-up malarkey. | ||
| All right, first of all, malarkey is Biden's word, Jack. | ||
| You can't use Biden's word. | ||
| Come on, Jack. | ||
| No, come on. | ||
| Let's go, Alex. | ||
| Second, they haven't been airing ads for that for weeks. | ||
| The press release announcing that special was on February 22nd, so they've aired commercials since around that point. | ||
| And it's really easy for Alex to play. | ||
| It's like, well, I was going to go over it, but my family is more important. | ||
| After they've already canceled it. | ||
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Right, right. | |
| That game is real smooth. | ||
| Lovely. | ||
| I'm gonna rise above this. | ||
| Hold me back! | ||
| Hold me back! | ||
| Hold me back, family! | ||
| I would go hard on these people, but you gotta hold me back! | ||
| Yeah, that's a little sad. | ||
| So, Alex wants to talk about Putin's speech. | ||
| And he's not being clear about this, because there was, before this, the announcement that Putin was putting his nuclear deterrence on high alert. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And so Alex is referencing that announcement and that speech that Putin gave, but what he's actually talking about is the speech where Putin declared war. | ||
| That's what I would have assumed, yeah. | ||
| So this is an older speech, or at least a couple days old speech that Alex is referring to, but he also, the way he talks about it is amazing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Russia has in its ethos invasions by the Huns for hundreds and hundreds of years, invasions by the Muslims for over a thousand years, and then Napoleon and Hitler, and 20 million Russians died in World War II. | ||
| Look it up. | ||
| 22 million Germans died. | ||
| The Russians killed about 18 million of those. | ||
| So imagine, it's not just like, okay, we lose 600, 700,000 people in World War II, or 60-something thousand in Vietnam, and everybody felt it and knows it. | ||
| It was a real war. | ||
| But Russia lost 20 million people in World War II, and so it is in the consciousness, and that's what Putin said. | ||
| He said... | ||
| People always try to bully us. | ||
| They always come up on our borders with weapons. | ||
| And for the first time ever, Russia is not going to wait until you attack. | ||
| And if you want to have a nuclear war, let's go ahead and have it. | ||
| He actually says that in a 27-minute address. | ||
| He also says you want to sexualize our children. | ||
| You're a bunch of pedophiles. | ||
| Hollywood's a bunch of devil worshippers. | ||
| You want to destroy men and women in the family, and we're done. | ||
| You want a nuclear war? | ||
| Let's just have one. | ||
| I mean, it's unbelievable. | ||
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I mean... | |
| I mean... | ||
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And... | |
| I don't even know what we're supposed to say at this point. | ||
| So that clip is fascinating because it's so specifically designed to implant two deceptive ideas in the audience's mind. | ||
| The first is Russia's history of being invaded makes the idea of Putin invading another country somehow more acceptable or understandable. | ||
| I mean, it's self-defense. | ||
| When you've been robbed 300 times in your past, you know, the moment that somebody looks like they're going to rob you, you run them down with your truck. | ||
| It makes perfect sense. | ||
| It's just another in a long string of Alex's very clear attempts to justify Putin's invasion without having to take on the intellectual and moral responsibility of giving a full-throated endorsement of it. | ||
| The second thing, though, is far more interesting to me, because what Alex is doing is lying about Putin's speech in order to create the image that he's threatening nuclear war inspired by the very same things that Alex feels are central to his battle against the globalists. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| Obviously, Putin didn't say those things. | ||
| He said he wanted to protect the First Amendment. | ||
| Alex says those things. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| I'm fairly certain Putin would be assassinated immediately if he were to go up and give a speech about readying nuclear weapons while saying, you want nuclear war? | ||
| Let's fucking go! | ||
| Let's fucking do it! | ||
| While spouting off a bunch of Alex's niche culture war complaints. | ||
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Jesus. | |
| Bros! | ||
| Bros! | ||
| Trans people exist! | ||
| We gotta have nuclear war, bros! | ||
| We have to take out Hollywood. | ||
| They worship the devil. | ||
| Oh, they do! | ||
| What Alex is doing here, and I find it hard to believe it's an accident, is transpose the feelings the audience has towards him onto Putin. | ||
| If you're an InfoWars listener, you recognize all of those talking points. | ||
| That the globalists are pedophiles trying to sexualize children. | ||
| that Hollywood is run by devil worshipers, that the globalists want to destroy men and women and the family. | ||
| They recognize them because they're things that Alex yells all the time. | ||
| And the audience has been trained to believe that Alex yelling these things is a form of him fighting for them and their very lives. | ||
| There's no way to slice this other than to say that Alex wants the audience to not only admire and support Putin... | ||
| He wants them to view him as a person who's motivated by and fighting for the same things that Alex is and has been all this time. | ||
| And you know Alex is a hero, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| So is Putin. | ||
| You can't get somebody to go from anti-interventionism, war is bad, to immediately be like... | ||
| Putin absolutely has to murder all of these people in order to protect himself from the West. | ||
| You have to have an intermediate step where you say, his grievances are real! | ||
| They're real grievances! | ||
| They're exactly the things that I have trained you over the course of my show. | ||
| And they're more important than the lives of any one man or woman. | ||
| This is a fucked up mentality, but it's really not too far off from some of the ways we've seen Alex frame Putin in the past. | ||
| What makes this particularly troubling is that Alex is employing this rhetoric in response to news that Putin has raised the alert level of nuclear weapons. | ||
| It's really hard to tell what's going on with Alex and what's behind these completely insane things he's saying this week, but it kind of feels like him getting his audience to either support the idea of using nukes or to rationalize after the fact that, you know, they may not like that Putin used nukes, but the globalists who wanted to destroy men and women just left him no choice. | ||
| They didn't have anything to do. | ||
| It kind of feels like a preemptive getting you ready to justify it. | ||
| Massive slaughter. | ||
| Whatever the case is here, this was one of the more disturbing clips I've heard on Alex's show in a bit. | ||
| There have been more shocking and disgusting clips, but this was psychologically worrying. | ||
| This involves Alex clearly talking about himself. | ||
| when discussing Putin, trying to get the audience to believe that Alex's words were coming out of Putin's mouth. | ||
| And I also think that the laughing at the end there was Alex being surprised that he went that far. | ||
| I kind of suspect that he even shocked himself with his ability to go that low. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| You have to also consider that he has to find some way to justify to himself that he's for Putin murdering all these people, you know? | ||
| Like, he knows what's really happening. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's no way that you can not know and still come up with this bullshit. | ||
| He's aware of some things, probably. | ||
| Maybe not a full picture. | ||
| But, man. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| How do you wake up and go like, yeah, I'm going to be on that guy's team? | ||
| Well, you have to find a number of ways to do that. | ||
| And I think one of them that's really key is to convince yourself that you're not actually on this person's team. | ||
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Oh, of course. | |
| And one of the ways you do that is pretend that you just want to stay out of it. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Stay out of it. | ||
| Above the fray. | ||
| This is a Slavic civil war going on. | ||
| And I've studied history. | ||
| I'm addicted to it. | ||
| And the Slavs, just like the Japanese, hate the Chinese and vice versa. | ||
| The Slavs are always killing each other. | ||
| And they're always doing this. | ||
| And it's just gone on for over a thousand years. | ||
| And it's a Slavic civil war. | ||
| Everybody should just stay the hell out of it, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| You know, when the Crips and Bloods are shooting each other in L.A., do we send the military in? | ||
| No. | ||
| We need to stay out of it. | ||
| And if they want to all kill each other, knock yourselves out. | ||
| But make no mistake, it was George Soros and others, I'll play the clips when we come back, that lit this damn fuse. | ||
| And I hold Soros and the New World Order responsible. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because Soros has ordered the... | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Because he paid for... | ||
| Because he was there! | ||
| Yeah, I think that this is not the mark of neutrality. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, everything he did is justified because everything they did is unjustified. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I just think that what you have is a situation where the argument is pro-Russia in as much as it's saying don't get involved in terms of sending military aid to people who are being invaded. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that is explicitly pro-Putin as a sentiment. | ||
| Not helping is taking Russia's side. | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| You can't just be like, oh man, it's one of those civil wars that they have every so often. | ||
| I mean, he's trying to also get you not to care. | ||
| True. | ||
| Just be like, hey, you know what? | ||
| If they want to kill all of each other, that's none of your business. | ||
| Don't give a shit that Putin invaded a country. | ||
| Don't care. | ||
| It's just another civil war that these people have always had. | ||
| Yeah, the point that Alex is trying to make where he's like, I'm not into this, I'm just seeing all sides, is so fraudulent. | ||
| And it's really clear that that's the impression that he's trying to give on this Sunday episode. | ||
| So Alex ends up playing some clips and he tries to lay out why Russia has a legitimate case. | ||
| I'm sorry, what now? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So what he does is he plays that clip of Soros from Fareed Zakaria's interview on CNN. | ||
| Yeah, from how many years ago? | ||
| It was eight years ago. | ||
| Eight years ago. | ||
| And Alex claims that he's bragging about overthrowing the government of Ukraine for money, which he wasn't. | ||
| That's just bullshit. | ||
| And the other piece of evidence Alex has is that clip of Biden saying that he was threatening to withhold aid unless Ukraine fired the corrupt prosecutor. | ||
| And that's it. | ||
| That's all the evidence Alex has to back up Putin's legitimate claim that Ukraine is a puppet of Soros and the West. | ||
| So those two things justify everything. | ||
| Well, that's the angle from the Russian perspective. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now, Alex said that he's going to give the Ukrainian perspective and the NATO perspective, but he doesn't. | ||
| He just gives this justification for why Russia would do this, and the pieces of evidence that he provided are just bullshit. | ||
| Man, we have an entire fucking amendment devoted to not letting a soldier into your fucking house, man. | ||
| That's rule number three. | ||
| Alex, you wouldn't fight for that one. | ||
| I feel like it's one of the most important ones. | ||
| I'll fight for not having a soldier quartered in my fucking office. | ||
| You're a Third Amendment absolutist. | ||
| I'm an absolutist, hell yeah. | ||
| So if a Russian soldier comes to my house, it's totally fine for me to fight back. | ||
| That's how it works. | ||
| You can't quarter. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Oh my god, I'm so relieved that is the Third Amendment. | ||
| I got worried for a second. | ||
| I need to memorize the order of these amendments. | ||
| So Alex is pretending that he's going to give all sides and talk about all this, but you know it's fraud. | ||
| So they make all these thug claims, act all tough, ship in $10 billion of weapons, $5 billion in the last year, attack all these Russian-held areas, and the Russians are just like, okay, I guess we'll attack back. | ||
| Because they created a proxy government, had a guy that was a TV star. | ||
| That was the president as the TV star host. | ||
| And then they install him and do all this. | ||
| And Russia went crazy. | ||
| Doesn't mean I agree with it. | ||
| Doesn't mean I like it. | ||
| But that's the left always doing whatever they want. | ||
| And now here's Biden just a couple days ago not knowing who he is. | ||
| So then these foreign adversaries see this. | ||
| And this scares them even more that they're such incompetent leaders. | ||
| And they say, well, screw it. | ||
| We've got to show strength in the face of this. | ||
| And Putin has said that. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| Judge Jackson, congratulations, and the podium is yours. | ||
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Let me pull this out for you. | |
| Where is it? | ||
| There you go. | ||
| You got it? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| See, the presence can't do much. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Thank you, Mr. President. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| So that's why Putin needed to attack? | ||
| What? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So yeah, like prior to this, Alex was claiming that he's going to show the Ukrainian argument and the Russian and the NATO side, but then he just played the Soros and Biden clips, the conspiracy shit we just talked about, just trying to justify the argument that Russia is cool to invade, and then he says that, which is clearly making more justifications. | ||
| Alex is trying really hard to do literally everything in his power to create the feeling in his audience that this invasion was absolutely justified and everything Putin does is good. | ||
| While occasionally saying that, yeah, I don't condone this, because he wants to have plausible deniability. | ||
| It's probably a really good strategy on his part, since he's evoking the feeling that he wants in his audience, and he's supporting Putin's agenda, while at the same time creating a number of clips where he's saying that he isn't in favor of this. | ||
| If he ever needs to pretend that he was against the invasion in the future. | ||
| He's leaving a paper trail of things he can take out of context and put in a compilation that people will be tricked by in the future. | ||
| Man, with what Texas is doing to trans youth right now, Russia has a better argument that they should invade Texas. | ||
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Hmm. | |
| It would be tough. | ||
| It would be tough. | ||
| The rest of the country wouldn't be stoked about it. | ||
| I don't know where Russia would start. | ||
| Is Mexico cool with them? | ||
| Well, Mexico is their own country, as we've heard. | ||
| I've heard of that. | ||
| From Alex. | ||
| I've heard of that. | ||
| They're not with the globalists. | ||
| I guess they have to hang out with Canada. | ||
| They'll go up through Alaska. | ||
| Well, they'd have to take Alaska first. | ||
| And Trudeau is weak. | ||
| So this could happen. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But then you've got to go all the way down from there. | ||
| Yeah, that's tough. | ||
| That's tough. | ||
| It's going to be a long walk. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Too bad there's not the Bering land bridge. | ||
| So, this is weird. | ||
| Alex is talking about how Russian people and USSR, Soviets, have always been double-crossed in the past. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Like Hitler screwing over Stalin. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Just like Hitler and Stalin. | ||
| In the early 1940s, had a deal to divide Eastern Europe amongst themselves. | ||
| And of course, Hitler then double-crossed Stalin. | ||
| That's what these criminals always do. | ||
| Can't believe Hitler would do that. | ||
| Well, Putin doesn't have any deals with the West. | ||
| And all he sees is weapons and things being shipped in and prepared to attack them, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| And he sees the immorality of the West, and he talks about it. | ||
| He talked about it in a clip on Friday. | ||
| Nobody's aired it. | ||
| We're going to air it coming up, start of the next hour, or I'm walking out of here. | ||
| One way or another, we'll air the whole damn speech if we have to. | ||
| This is, again, making reference to the speech where Putin was declaring war. | ||
| But again, this is nothing but justifications. | ||
| Wall to wall, it is completely like Putin needed to do this. | ||
| Everything he's doing is right. | ||
| That is all that's going on here. | ||
| Explain to me how a history of Hitler betraying you justifies invading Ukraine. | ||
| That's a question that I have. | ||
| Well, I give up. | ||
| Okay, good call. | ||
| So, Alex, you have this situation where Putin's putting the nuclear weapons on high alert. | ||
| There's an invasion going on. | ||
| Soros is instigating everywhere. | ||
| It's all his fault. | ||
| And look, the West, America, we had a lot of freedoms. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And we built them up. | ||
| You know, like a reserve. | ||
| Right, like the Third Amendment. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But they're running out, man. | ||
| Oh no, we're running out of freedom? | ||
| We're running out of freedoms. | ||
| We're running out of freedoms? | ||
| And I'm mic down for this because that leads Alex to some troubling head spaces. | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| I've tried to explain to people. | ||
| For a long, long time how serious things are. | ||
| And I understand we've been raised in a country that's been so free and so open that we're domesticated and don't get how much danger we're in. | ||
| But all of that saved up freedom and all that saved up liberty and all that saved up security that we had in the bank, ladies and gentlemen, is almost gone now. | ||
| And at a certain point, there's probably no reason to even talk about this anymore. | ||
| I'm going to go. | ||
| I'm going to go. | ||
| I'm not mad. | ||
| I'm going to go home and be with my family. | ||
| Folks, you just enjoy yourselves and knock yourselves out. | ||
| I'm serious. | ||
| I'm gone. | ||
| I'm out of here. | ||
| And it's not that I'm mad at the crew. | ||
| I'm not mad at anybody. | ||
| I just can't do this anymore. | ||
| I can't pretend anymore. | ||
| I can't go along with it. | ||
| The globalists are going to destroy the whole planet. | ||
| They can't be stopped. | ||
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They're Satanists. | |
| I just prepare too much for this show. | ||
| Yeah, okay. | ||
| That's what's going on. | ||
| I think you really see Alex's steady hand in trying times. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Real rock. | ||
| I'm telling you, I am starting to think that maybe the amount of effort it takes to twist your brain to a place where it's okay for Putin to invade and murder a lot of people, it's gonna really fuck your head up. | ||
| Yeah, and especially if you want to try and just do it without doing any work. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| If you don't prepare at all, to then have to just make them up on the fly. | ||
| Yeah, improvising rationalizations for this stuff is probably pretty hard. | ||
| You should have a writer's... | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| But look, man. | ||
| They're gonna blow up the planet. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| The globalists. | ||
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They have to. | |
| And Alex is fucking over it. | ||
| He's done. | ||
| Maybe there's nothing he can do. | ||
| I have a serious question about this. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| What does Satan do after the planet has been destroyed? | ||
| Terraform everything so he can start all over again. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| No, I mean, like, isn't it, um, isn't it, like, wasn't childhood's end, like, at the end of it, the, like, the aliens could only breathe if the, like, the environment was degraded to a certain extent? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So I bet it's Alex believes that. | ||
| They, like, breathe sulfuric air or something. | ||
| So then the demons come up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Great. | ||
| I bet, I would bet that if push came to shove, that's what he would use as an explanation. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| But, look, they're gonna blow it up. | ||
| They're going to blow it up. | ||
| And maybe they should. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Maybe we should all just die. | ||
| I mean, if I don't want to go to work... | ||
| Maybe God's just going to allow the planet to be destroyed. | ||
| And maybe that's the best thing. | ||
| I mean, I'm not going to blame God if there's big nuclear flashes and we're all dead in a couple days or weeks. | ||
| I mean, let's just get it over with. | ||
| Seriously, doesn't Hollywood need to be gone? | ||
| I mean, don't... | ||
| New York, you know? | ||
| And I know there's a lot of good people there, but it's like, at the same time, just blow us up, God! | ||
| Let's just get it over with! | ||
| Seriously! | ||
| But, you know, the children don't deserve to die, so I... | ||
| Oh, the children. | ||
| I shouldn't even sit here and entertain on hypothetical. | ||
| That hypothetical, you say? | ||
| I mean, what is the point of having the book of Revelation? | ||
| If you're going to be like, maybe God will just kill us this way, shouldn't you be more relaxed about nuclear war? | ||
| You're like, look, it's not in the fucking book, so guess what? | ||
| No big deal. | ||
| I'll be honest, I think Alex is fairly relaxed in as much as this is just a little childish outburst. | ||
| This is very sad. | ||
| What this is is a manifestation of him being in a bad mood, maybe hungover, probably really wrestling with how much There is to talk about and how little he knows about any of these subjects. | ||
| That is a problem. | ||
| And he's just lashing out. | ||
| Maybe God should blow us up. | ||
| Hollywood should die, so maybe we all should die. | ||
| Oh, but what about the children? | ||
| Like, it's stupid. | ||
| That's so stupid. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so Alex ends up... | ||
| He's gone. | ||
| Does he quit? | ||
| He decides to leave. | ||
| Oh, good for him. | ||
| I'm going to air a tape, and I'm not sure if I'm going to come back, but I'm going to get the crew ready in case I go. | ||
| Because seriously, I need to be with my family. | ||
| In fact, I think I'm taking off this next week in the middle of all this obscenity and just all of this insanity. | ||
| I'm just not going to be here. | ||
| Because I think that's the right thing to actually do. | ||
| It's not even talk about it, not even to look at it. | ||
| It's like the CNN crap. | ||
| I don't even care. | ||
| They're stalking me. | ||
| They're liars. | ||
| But it's emblematic of how, well, the whole world burns down and goes down. | ||
| They're like trying to stop somebody who's trying to stop it and lying about them. | ||
| I've got all these clips and all this news. | ||
| I mean, who even? | ||
| You don't even want to know this stuff, do you? | ||
| Probably don't. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| What a fucking loser. | ||
| What a teen in geometry. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Who even needs this? | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| I'm just going to leave. | ||
| You can't even keep me here. | ||
| I don't see a truancy officer. | ||
| The globalists are going to blow up everything. | ||
| Maybe you don't want to hear me riff about a Gateway Pundit article after all. | ||
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Maybe I should be with my family. | |
| I'm going to take next week off. | ||
| You'll miss me when there's no one else but Owen Troyer to read Gateway Pundit headlines. | ||
| You will miss him when there's no one else but Owen Troyer. | ||
| You will. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| What a dork. | ||
| It's so stupid. | ||
| Like, it's this little outburst. | ||
| They just reveal how unequipped he is to deal with maybe serious material, quite frankly. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| He's very capable of dealing with abstract nonsense that doesn't mean anything. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think he's fine whenever there are just these vague things like palace intrigue about the Trump administration. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| That's kind of fun. | ||
| Who's poisoning him now? | ||
| The Diet Cokes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fun little spy novels he's writing. | ||
| Even to some degree the election conspiracies like, you know... | ||
| It's all, oh, the audit is going according to plan. | ||
| They found the boat that things came in from North Korea. | ||
| The North Koreans, yeah. | ||
| There's all that kind of stuff that kind of works for him because the stakes of it aren't really real. | ||
| Like, even he didn't think that January 6th was going to happen. | ||
| So, like, it's... | ||
| It's kind of like you could do that. | ||
| Now there's actually a country getting invaded by a nuclear power in a geopolitical pickle. | ||
| Nightmare. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex is too dumb and too lazy to possibly even engage with it in a responsible manner. | ||
| So you see him act like this. | ||
| It's just pathetic. | ||
| Yeah, that is something that... | ||
| Like, when you talk about the CNN documentary, like, I don't want something that's going to portray him as the big, bad, evil kind of mastermind. | ||
| And it's like, yeah, because listen to this shit. | ||
| This is not an evil mastermind. | ||
| This is a whiny teen. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If Alex was an evil mastermind, he'd be able to handle his business. | ||
| You would think. | ||
| So he comes back after the next break, because he just actually... | ||
| He storms off for the last couple minutes of this segment, but then the commercial. | ||
| Needed a snack. | ||
| Yeah, so he comes back. | ||
| Listen, I want to apologize, and I mean it from the bottom of my heart to the listeners and the crew, but I'm not somebody that sits here and acts like I'm something I'm not. | ||
| I really care. | ||
| I'm really informed. | ||
| I'm really involved, and I'm at the end of my rope with all the stuff going on in the world. | ||
| I know the globalists, nine times out of ten, are the ones lighting the fuse that are endangering all of our lives and our children's lives. | ||
| It's like that Narns Barkley show. | ||
| I wasn't crazy because I didn't know enough. | ||
| I knew too much. | ||
| The show? | ||
| You have my word. | ||
| I've gotten good about not blowing up on air better than I was. | ||
| I don't think that's true. | ||
| Did Gnarls Barkley do a Las Vegas residency for a while that I didn't know of? | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Did they have like a Celine Dion kind of style attraction going on there? | ||
| Must have. | ||
| Look, that misspeaking is one thing. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Alex Jones has been apologizing to the crew for 24 fucking years. | ||
| So long. | ||
| So stupid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Everything is the globalists' fault. | ||
| Nine times out of ten, what have you been talking about? | ||
| None of this is real. | ||
| I think he said something accidentally that revealed one of those classic paradoxes, like, everything I tell you is a lie. | ||
| You know, like, he's saying, I'm not here to pretend, I'm not pretending like I'm something I'm not. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Where you're like, yes you are, but... | ||
| That is who you are, so you aren't. | ||
| It's one of those kind of situations. | ||
| It could be. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| It could also be he was pretending for a long time and then just is that now. | ||
| You become the thing you pretend to be. | ||
| Yeah, fear what masks thou wear. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And also, too, this isn't, like, someone who cares too much. | ||
| This is not the behavior of someone who cares too much. | ||
| This is someone who is supposed to be doing their job and can't because they're incompetent. | ||
| Yeah, teens aren't like, why do I need geometry? | ||
| Because they care too much about geometry. | ||
| They care too much about math. | ||
| They just care so much about math and this has already been proven! | ||
| Anyway, Alex is going to start over. | ||
| Okay, good. | ||
| It's a little late for that. | ||
| Like from the beginning? | ||
| Sort of. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm going to start over and I'm going to plow through the news. | ||
| But you have to understand something, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| There's also a great frustration. | ||
| Just this stack right here is so horrible, and I refuse to rationalize what's going on and not make it a big deal in my brain. | ||
| What's third from the bottom on that stack? | ||
| If there's one thing Alex Jones doesn't have, it's the Stockholm gene, where when I'm being abused, I can make excuses for it, and I can decide I don't like it, and just go along with it. | ||
| I can decide I don't like being awake. | ||
| I don't have the Stockholm gene. | ||
| And instead, when people are enslaving me and my family and enslaving you, I get extremely upset about it. | ||
| And just this stack alone right here is unbelievable! | ||
| Do you know what happens? | ||
| They had three more universities with CRISPR gene editors scan the damn COVID-19. | ||
| And it is 100% made in a lab. | ||
| And it's 100% made by Moderna. | ||
| And it's 100% made in 2016! | ||
| I had family and friends die! | ||
| They murdered people I know! | ||
| No, you did. | ||
| There aren't more universities coming out with evidence that COVID was made in a lab. | ||
| It's all nonsense. | ||
| That's just Alex reading more headlines about the same underlying story that we talked about on the last episode. | ||
| And incidentally, though, three new preprint studies have come out that trace the epidemiological history of COVID, and all of them very strongly point to a natural origin of the virus coming from the Hunan seafood market. | ||
| We'll have to wait until those go through the review process, but they take different approaches to looking at the question and each strongly suggest natural origin and strongly point away from the idea that it came from a lab. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The personalizing of this stuff that Alex is doing is really scary, though. | ||
| The dumb conspiracies about COVID being a bioweapon were kind of abstract enough that most listeners in the past could generally see it as kind of a detective game they were playing, trying to put these evidence pieces together so they could finally stick it to Gates. | ||
| You still haven't proven 100% that they killed your family yet. | ||
| This, on the other hand, is inciting. | ||
| Alex is having this emotional outburst in such a personal context and in some ways it gives the audience permission to deal with COVID like that too. | ||
| A lot of people have friends or family who have died from the virus and now Alex is modeling the sort of response that's appropriate to have about that. | ||
| Screaming and yelling about how your friends were murdered by the globalists like Klaus Schwab. | ||
| It's a bad sign of things to come and honestly, if nothing else, it reflects how unhinged Alex is on this episode. | ||
| He is... | ||
| Losing it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Another problem, though, is that there's an intention behind this. | ||
| He's building up this emotion, and as we know, one of the things that he does is he builds up emotion and then uses that to power another machine. | ||
| And you can see, after building up this emotion, he uses it to go in another direction. | ||
| I had family and friends die! | ||
| They murdered people I know! | ||
| And debilitated other people I care about! | ||
| And now they start a war with Russia. | ||
| I'm so sick of Bill Gates. | ||
| I'm so sick of Barack Obama. | ||
| I'm so sick of Hillary Clinton. | ||
| I can't even look at him anymore. | ||
| If Vladimir Putin had his fingerprints on a bioweapon, I'd say go to war with the Russians. | ||
| I've never been to Russia. | ||
| I don't have a dog in that fight. | ||
| But I don't ever catch the Russians messing with me. | ||
| It's the criminals raping me and my family and raping you, telling me I'm a Russian. | ||
| And you know why they call me a Russian? | ||
| Because the Russians aren't bowing down to their crap either. | ||
| That's why they call us a Russian. | ||
| They call anybody that doesn't get down on their knees and bow down to Hollywood and let them screw our kids and F us over the Russians. | ||
| The fake-in way over-the-top emotional outburst that Alex performed there was essentially in service of creating strong feelings that then he could shift over to being used to justify Putin's invasion of Ukraine. | ||
| It's a tactic where he's trying to create this very strong, negative feeling about these globalist villains that he pretends he's fighting. | ||
| Which is so much stronger than any feeling the audience might have about Putin. | ||
| How could you come down on Putin, who didn't make this bioweapon? | ||
| I've never been to Russia. | ||
| How could you come down on him when these villains exist? | ||
| They started the war! | ||
| I hate Hillary Clinton, Obama, Klaus Schwab, the people who started the war! | ||
| Definitely those people, the globalists, like Obama and Hillary Clinton and Klaus Schwab. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| At best, I think that this kind of an outburst is an indication that Alex has no business being on air. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| He's incapable of responsibly discussing these sorts of very important issues. | ||
| And I think it's pathetic. | ||
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| And it goes even further off the rails, if you can believe that. | ||
| See, Russia's the new American, because they captured America. | ||
| You can't have a free, open country, because everybody else might want that. | ||
| See, what's happened is, people used to love these rants, but they're not good for me when I do them. | ||
| And I stopped doing the rants over the years, you notice? | ||
| But then I get pissed and got to walk off the show because I don't want to start doing this. | ||
| I mean, I'm not going to stand here and watch George Soros and Barack Obama blow the damn planet off because they got some kind of satanic fetish with it. | ||
| See, I told you I was going to focus and cover the noose. | ||
| I'm going to behead myself. | ||
| I'm going to take deep breaths. | ||
| And we're going to go through all of it in the next hour. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, Russian is the new American. | ||
| Yeah, that's real, real, real, real bad. | ||
| In this context, in the conversation that is supposedly happening on this episode, you couldn't... | ||
| Really say anything that would be more of a way of Alex saying Putin's great. | ||
| Russia's right. | ||
| Everything is the best. | ||
| Your patriotism. | ||
| The pretending to be impartial and like, I'm not for this invasion or whatever. | ||
| It's such bullshit. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Now, that being said, too, the other thing that I find fascinating about that clip is... | ||
| It does appear that Alex can't do these rants anymore. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| I feel like there's a physical aspect to it. | ||
| He seems winded. | ||
| He seems unable to have the lung capacity to just do this. | ||
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Right. | |
| And then second, you could hear a couple points where his brain was trying to find the next thing to, like, I'm not going to live under George Soros! | ||
|
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Ha ha! | |
| I found it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Whereas before, there would be a bit more fluidity between things. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I think his brain and his body aren't able to do this anymore, but he also knows that it's kind of one of the only things that people need him for. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, if that was... | ||
| That's the type of audition tape that would really get you extra work. | ||
| You know? | ||
| That's not quite the performance that you want to have the world see. | ||
| Maybe take that one a few more times. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| You gotta know your strengths. | ||
| You gotta know when you've lost your fastball. | ||
| You gotta know. | ||
| You're gonna end up blowing out your arm. | ||
| Clayton Kershaw knew when he lost his fastball. | ||
| Changed his pitches. | ||
| Got it better. | ||
| Adjusted things. | ||
| More of that curve. | ||
| But you know what Kershaw is willing to do is work. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| Alex is not. | ||
| Ah, that's hard. | ||
| You know, if he got in shape, I bet he could do rants again. | ||
| I have to correct myself. | ||
| I said that Alex wasn't willing to do work. | ||
| And actually, this next clip contradicts that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And if I have to, I'll push the great Owen Schroer back 30 minutes so I can cover all this because I got ready to cover all this and I got prepared probably a little too much. | ||
| Anytime I prepare 15 hours for a show, it's the weekend. | ||
| But I don't ever stop working. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| I have to learn. | ||
| I've got to just prepare for a couple hours. | ||
| That's enough. | ||
| Instead of literally reading three times more than what you see on my desk here, I read. | ||
| At least three times. | ||
| Thousands of pages. | ||
| And thousands of videos. | ||
| Hundreds of videos. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| But you don't need me to tell you how screwed you're being screwed. | ||
| Oh, by the way, I've got another video clip we'll never have time to get to. | ||
| My fault. | ||
| Yeah, it is your fault. | ||
| I wonder why you don't have time to do the things you set out to do. | ||
| Also, I call shenanigans on thousands of pages. | ||
| How are you complaining to me that you can't get to a video clip? | ||
| That's not fair. | ||
| It's not your fault as the listener. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's so abusive. | ||
| You know why I can't do my job? | ||
| Because I work too hard. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| I over-prepared for this, and that's why I'm having this silly childish outburst. | ||
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You would too if you had all the information that's in my head. | |
| It's a really good way to cover when you haven't done any work. | ||
| If that... | ||
| You have no idea what's going on, but you also want to emotionally... | ||
| Lue your audience into supporting Putin and his invasion. | ||
| I mean, can you imagine something like that happening to Alex at a fucking Starbucks? | ||
| He'd burn that shit to the ground if the barista was like, hey, I'm sorry, I couldn't get to your coffee. | ||
| I was too busy studying coffee in the back. | ||
| I was caring too much about coffee. | ||
| I overprepared for this shit. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| So, no, I'm sorry. | ||
| We'll get to you tomorrow. | ||
| It is funny to imagine this in any other context being an acceptable thing. | ||
| Imagine you show up for a college course and the professor just screams at you through the entire thing about, like, nothing related to the subject matter. | ||
| He's like, look, I studied too much to prepare for this course. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| I know too much about this subject to yell at you about anything other than the grievances that I made up to be having right now. | ||
| Or, like, imagine it on, uh, imagine Brian Stelter doing it. | ||
| Or just to make it more middle-of-the-road, down-the-middle newsreader. | ||
| Imagine them just doing this kind of shit. | ||
| No one has this reaction to over-preparing. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I do think that a possible reaction to over-preparing is having too many possible non-sequiturs. | ||
| Sure! | ||
| That's maybe... | ||
| I mean, possible. | ||
| I've overprepared for a test before, and then you've got so many answers, you're not sure if this is the most correct one. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Or if there could be a more correct answer. | ||
| Overpreparation can be a thing, but it doesn't manifest as this. | ||
| No, I didn't immediately go like, all these questions are wrong and lies, and everybody sucks here but me, and I don't even want to be here, and I'm gone. | ||
| And maybe God should just let us get nuked already. | ||
| And I'm not mad at the test. | ||
| No. | ||
| Not mad at the proctor. | ||
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Not mad at the test. | |
| So, look, you know, he usually is apologetic to the crew. | ||
| Not this time. | ||
| Not this time? | ||
| All right. | ||
| I got really upset earlier, and I'm not going to apologize anymore for it. | ||
| Like I told you, I apologize. | ||
| I'm going to be calm now, and I blew up. | ||
| But that's what I wanted to do, and it's an acting out. | ||
| Quite frankly, God made us this way to get upset when things are going on like this so that everybody just doesn't take what's going on as normal. | ||
| Then why doesn't everybody get upset like this? | ||
| Because none of this is normal! | ||
| Well, that's because no one is as manly as Alex. | ||
| Alex is so in touch with what God wants him to be that he acts like that when other people don't. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I agree with him. | ||
| Not about that larger point, but I agree with him that that was intentional and was just an acting out. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Also agreed. | ||
| Way to say one true thing? | ||
| I think that it makes it worse that he's clearly aware of that and willing to just be like, yeah, that was me putting on a show. | ||
| I mean, that is a... | ||
| That's almost weird to admit. | ||
| It's weird to say that out loud. | ||
| Well, and especially because he was so unable to actually even do the acting out thing. | ||
| It's kind of like the old clown who can't do his routine. | ||
| You know, it's just sad at that point. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| He doesn't have the makeup quite on right. | ||
| His flower only squirts water about an inch or two. | ||
| Only gets himself wet. | ||
| Can only juggle one ball. | ||
| Oh, that's sad. | ||
| That's a sad clown throwing up a ball. | ||
| Yeah, and is wheezing as he's juggling one ball. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, if you're going to be like, yeah, I meant to do that. | ||
| It should have been a smooth thing. | ||
| This belies his inability to even do the fake job that he sees as being his job. | ||
| Yeah, it is a little bit watching a man disintegrate. | ||
| I've brought this up a couple times, and it's because Alex does as well. | ||
| He thinks that he can get away with saying that he's looking at all sides. | ||
| Looking at the NATO side, looking at the Ukraine side, looking at the Russia side. | ||
| I'm not playing favorites here. | ||
| Very untrue. | ||
| But he tries to play that game again. | ||
| I'm going to do my best to show all the news that's happening from the Ukrainian side, the NATO side, and the Russian side. | ||
| I've got a bunch of clips, a bunch of articles, and a bunch of things to get to. | ||
| But let's just start. | ||
| And again, this is in Russian, but there's subtitles for TV viewers. | ||
| If I stop and start it, it'll take too long. | ||
| So I'm just going to play it so it's on record, so people know he said it, because I show you what I'm about to say. | ||
| What I'm about to claim has happened. | ||
| And then I will paraphrase what Putin said. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| So I gotta say, after what we've seen here today, I'm super confident that Alex is going to be totally fair and impartial and give equal weight to the Russian-Ukrainian and NATO position. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| You know, Fox News is fair and balanced. | ||
| Words mean things. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So this speech is the one from February 24th. | ||
| Although Alex does seem to conflate this with the nuclear deterrence speech, it's very unclear. | ||
| Two speeches are one speech. | ||
| He's not being specific enough to give the audience really a clear understanding of which speech is which, where are things coming from. | ||
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Right. | |
| Because he doesn't care. | ||
| Yeah, like I said, this is the speech where Putin declared war. | ||
| So what Alex is doing is he's going to be uncritically playing and endorsing Putin's propaganda campaign where he was trying to rationalize invading Ukraine. | ||
| And that's going to be his... | ||
| Fair and equal. | ||
| So I think what you might be saying is that when Putin gave that speech, the one that Alex could find no more honest... | ||
| No, he hasn't said that about this speech yet. | ||
| It was the one prior. | ||
| It was the one prior to that. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It was the one where he was recognizing Luhansk and Danetsk was the one that Alex couldn't find fault with. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| Alex hadn't seen this one until probably... | ||
| Until yesterday. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, the speech where Putin lied a lot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Nonstop. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| In an effort to convince anybody who would listen... | ||
| Of things that were not true. | ||
| Alex is going to just play that in its entirety. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| Not in its entirety, I will say. | ||
| He actually plays very little of it because he gets bogged down. | ||
| One of the problems is that it's a video with subtitles. | ||
| There's no dubbing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So Alex has to read the subtitles and that's too hard. | ||
| So he doesn't do much of it. | ||
| I cannot believe they gave him a video with subtitles. | ||
| What do you think the last foreign language film he saw was? | ||
| Get the fuck out. | ||
| Crouching tiger, hidden dragon? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| So here is Alex's first paraphrasing. | ||
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I'll get some of this. | |
| He says they're using psychological warfare operations to destroy our family, to erode us from within. | ||
| So we collapse. | ||
| They want to destroy our families. | ||
| And we're aware of this. | ||
| Continue. | ||
| So here's what that part of the speech actually said. | ||
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| Naturally, this leads to Alex picking up the ball and translating this into being support for his transphobia, which might be a fair reading of Putin's words in some ways. | ||
| Yeah, I would take that, yeah. | ||
| Go back to the beginning. | ||
| This is so important. | ||
| He says, like they've done in the countries they control. | ||
| I mean, they're bombing us with fentanyl and LGBTQZ. | ||
| They're bombing us with transgender. | ||
| I mean, that's how you destroy somebody. | ||
| aren't dumb, they look at this and go, my God, this is the most evil thing we ever saw. | ||
| And because they don't want to embrace this, they're the bad people. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So one of the things that's really interesting about this particular passage from Putin's war speech is that it can be used to appeal to really any variety of bigot. | ||
| If you hate trans or gay people, you can hear degradation and degeneration as being about that community. | ||
| At the same time, if you're a racist, you could see it being about multiculturalism. | ||
| Or if you're super anti-immigrant, you could see it being about an attitude of openness towards refugees and asylum seekers. | ||
| If you're a misogynist, you could see this being about feminism. | ||
| If you're anti-abortion, you could see this being about that. | ||
| This passage that Alex is playing is essentially a Rorschach test for a person's bigotry, and it seems pretty clear that Alex is deeply committed to his hatred of trans people. | ||
| Also, if you follow the chain of logic here, then what Alex is saying is that George Soros made people in Ukraine trans, and that Putin was worried that he'd do the same in Russia so he had to invade. | ||
| This is the kind of incoherent nonsense you have to imply when you can't just come out and say that you love dictators and want a one-world government, but one that's authoritarian against the people who you consider to be part of out-groups and benevolent towards you and your in-group. | ||
| Yeah, the language is so... | ||
| I mean, just fucking unacceptable. | ||
| They're bombing us. | ||
| Dot, dot, dot. | ||
| With LGBTQ... | ||
| Throwing his favorite P in there as well. | ||
| They're bombing us, and Putin just saw them bombing him, and all Putin's doing is bombing back. | ||
| Now, sure, what they're doing is saying things are okay and using words, and Putin is murdering a lot of people, but bombs are bombs. | ||
| Yeah, it's pretty disgusting. | ||
| But yeah, because Alex has gotten what he needs out of this, this is most of what he covers in the Putin speech. | ||
| There isn't much reason to do anything other than go back to the beginning so I can riff more on this. | ||
| And he has some other riffs. | ||
| Start at the beginning, I'm going to shut up. | ||
| But he goes on to say, this is not going to happen, you're not going to defeat humanity. | ||
| You're going to fail. | ||
| I mean, what do you say to that? | ||
| Because this is an alien takeover. | ||
| I don't know if it's green men running it. | ||
| I don't know what, you know, Satan, whatever. | ||
| But whatever's going on, whatever's running most of the world is anti-human, folks. | ||
| And Russia and China are rejecting it. | ||
| And that's why war is about to start. | ||
| That's not what Putin said. | ||
| He was saying that the US wasn't going to defeat Russia and impose the West's model of an open society on the country. | ||
| Alex is hearing the things he wants to hear in this because he really likes Putin and wants him to be the hero that Trump couldn't be. | ||
| And honestly, it's just pathetic. | ||
| It's just a disaster. | ||
| You have Alex here on Sunday listening to the speech from the 24th and being like, this guy is great. | ||
| He's standing up to these aliens. | ||
| That's what I want in my president. | ||
| I want the new American president because Russia is the new America and Putin is the president of Russia, which means Putin is my president. | ||
| He, I love. | ||
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| This is just nuts that Alex thinks that he's in any way being all sidesy. | ||
| So Alex decides, man, I gotta fucking take some time off. | ||
| I think he just took some... | ||
| Didn't he just go to the woods like a week or two ago? | ||
| Supposedly. | ||
| Anyways, it takes more time off. | ||
| Okay, good. | ||
| All right, folks. | ||
| And I will be here live tomorrow with the Monday show, but I have decided even though this major war is going on that I'm going to take off a few days because I've got to really think about what's happening and just somehow disconnect because here's the problem. | ||
| Just like I know this is happening to you probably. | ||
| I'm thinking about this all the time. | ||
| I'm dreaming about this. | ||
| This is all I'm doing. | ||
| And I'm becoming very unbalanced. | ||
| And that's the globalist plan. | ||
| The globalist plan is to make you all topsy-turvy. | ||
| Really kind of be like, oh, I'm not sure where the ground is. | ||
| To the point where you freak out and do performative outrage on your show. | ||
| That's what the globalist plan is. | ||
| I don't see that as being a good plan. | ||
| But I do think the problem is probably that Alex is dreaming about this stuff. | ||
| I could be. | ||
| And he considers it visions or research. | ||
| Ah, there is that. | ||
| So I would say take some fucking time off. | ||
| Maybe the rest of your career, take it off. | ||
| I don't think anybody really needs your take on the Ukrainian situation, right? | ||
| No, especially when it veers into this direction. | ||
| Belarusers. | ||
| a moron and saying he doesn't know anything. | ||
| So I decided to actually go research Lukashenko and I've been doing it for months. | ||
| And you ought to watch his speeches. | ||
| They're like an hour long. | ||
| It's the Alex Jones show. | ||
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And I'm not endorsing everything he does or what he's up to there in white Russia. | |
| Like what? | ||
| Belarus means. | ||
| Alex Alexander Lukashenko is a dictator, and he's been in power in Belarus since 1994. | ||
| Good fucking God. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Alex should be a little more careful about finding himself relating to Lukashenko. | ||
| Hey, Lukashenko and I are two peas in the same pod, and I see no problems with saying that out loud to a lot of people. | ||
| One of the big complaints that the international community has with Lukashenko isn't that he's dumb. | ||
| It's that he really seems to like torturing political dissenters. | ||
| The 2020 election, where Lukashenko won his sixth term, though most of the world... | ||
| Oh, you think? | ||
| Oh, you think? | ||
| August 2020, the government decided that there was no reason to open an investigation into 4,644 claims filed by victims of torture by the government, which usually is a fairly Yeah, usually. | ||
| Lukashenko sounds like his show, he's probably right. | ||
| But that's because Alex's show is essentially the ravings of an authoritarian who wants to torture and imprison people he doesn't like. | ||
| Also, considering that Belarus is now at war with Ukraine also, it really makes it clear how incapable Alex is of providing anything close to impartial coverage here. | ||
| He's just a stand for Putin and Lukashenko. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| Like, the idea that you can be like, okay, well, I'm going to distance myself from Putin a little bit. | ||
| I don't think the war is smart. | ||
| That's my problem. | ||
| It's not smart. | ||
| He's in over his head. | ||
| He bit off more than he could chew. | ||
| It's like the sixth. | ||
| If they had won, then it would have been very smart. | ||
| Now what I'm going to do is I'm going to heap praise upon a... | ||
| Just somebody who is totally neutral in this situation. | ||
| Somebody who I can say, listen... | ||
| Somebody who's the only other person. | ||
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On the boot side. | |
| Oh, God. | ||
| What a fucking asshole. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Unreal. | ||
| Yeah, he sucks. | ||
| Putin, Putin's bad. | ||
| Now, Lukashenko, there's a guy you can hang your hat on. | ||
| You know, they say Ukraine's a quote-unquote democracy. | ||
| Head on. | ||
| Run over to Belarus! | ||
| That's where you're gonna get the good shit. | ||
| The guy who's the head of the country where Russian troops are invading from. | ||
| Yeah, the guy who's like, hey, please, put nuclear weapons in our country. | ||
| That's super smart. | ||
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Wolf. | |
| Yikes. | ||
| So Alex complains about Joy Behar's comments being insensitive, and I think that's a little pointless. | ||
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Rich? | |
| Yeah, a little pointless at this point. | ||
| So Alex has a guest, I told you. | ||
| He's gonna have a guest, and he's Neo. | ||
| He's Leo. | ||
| Alright, folks. | ||
| Leo Zagami is a best-selling author, research, Vatican expert, and also an expert on what's been happening in Russia. | ||
| I'm sorry, what? | ||
| Yes, he's an expert on what's going on. | ||
| I'm sorry, what now? | ||
| What? | ||
| What? | ||
| I mean, he has spent some time in St. Petersburg because of his DJing stuff. | ||
| I know that I've seen videos of him like... | ||
| Showing flyers for the events that he's done in Russia and stuff. | ||
| So I know that he has at least some familiarity with the country, but... | ||
| More than Alex. | ||
| But let's be, like, really above board here. | ||
| He is not a best-selling author. | ||
| Those books are disastrous. | ||
| They suck. | ||
| They're self-published. | ||
| He claims that he was in the Illuminati. | ||
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Yep. | |
| He was Jesus. | ||
| Well, yes, he was. | ||
| And he gave proof to the Vatican that he was Jesus, and they were like, whoa. | ||
| Can't believe it. | ||
| Can't believe it. | ||
| You're blowing my mind right now, dude. | ||
| He had codes that only Jesus would have. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 6254. | ||
| That's Jesus' pin. | ||
| Yeah, he could open the padlock on the basement of the Vatican. | ||
| They have eye scanners that only recognize Jesus' eye. | ||
| It's like a spy movie. | ||
| And so now he has repurposed himself, I guess, as an expert on international relations vis-a-vis Russia. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And here's some of his bona fides. | ||
| And I was involved also in meeting Vladimir Putin both in Moscow in 2002 briefly and in the early stages when he was still a mayor in St. Petersburg, I remember. | ||
| And he really changed Russian politics. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I would like to, just because it's fun, I like to imagine that every part of Leo's mythology is something that he believes simultaneously, as opposed to he's done a bunch of different grifts over the years. | ||
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Right, right. | |
| He's coming off of, just a few months earlier, he did 9-11. | ||
| So a few months before, he had just committed 9-11, saw the towers go down, was like, I gotta get out of here, I'm gonna head to St. Petersburg, I'm gonna hang out with my buddy, the mayor. | ||
| No, no, because Putin was already president by 2002. | ||
| That's right, yeah. | ||
| So yeah, he goes and he meets Putin. | ||
| Oh, this is so dumb. | ||
| Yeah, that's great. | ||
| So anyway. | ||
| Who led him on a plane after that? | ||
| Well, our intelligence services can't deal with someone like Leo Zagami. | ||
| He's too high level. | ||
| Because he was part of the Illuminati. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They had to frame up some folk. | ||
| What a fucking asshole. | ||
| But that's, I mean, it just goes to show the cravenness and the depths that these con artists will go to in order to come up with their new mythology, which is, part of it is done in service. | ||
| Of getting rid of that old one that kind of sucks. | ||
| You don't want to be the guy who's Jesus and started Matrixism and did 9-11. | ||
| That might be fun for a little bit. | ||
| You have your time. | ||
| It's like a wrestling character. | ||
| You need a new gimmick. | ||
| I met Putin in 2002 and I know everything about Russian politics. | ||
| I wonder how mankind's doing. | ||
| The world is seeing Some protests breaking out in Russia, which people are pretty heartened by. | ||
| It's nice to see people being that brave. | ||
| Because Lukashenko and Putin both are fans of torturing people who protest. | ||
| And that, you should know, is actually not true. | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
| First of all, I want to straighten up this propaganda that is coming out of Russia with thousands of people getting arrested. | ||
| I mean, Russia has a population of 144 million people who back President Vladimir Putin. | ||
| If 3,000 people get arrested, and those 3,000 people I know for sure belong to organizations, the Western organization financed by the West. | ||
| They, of course, get money also by George Soros. | ||
| It's not relevant for real Russian of the working class. | ||
| Yeah, man, these protesters are just paid by Soros. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| It's not relevant. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And I will say that Leo is trying to play the I'm impartial game, too. | ||
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Oh, of course. | |
| Of course. | ||
| It's just a disaster. | ||
| That's really incredible. | ||
| Good work. | ||
| Good work, Zagami. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| It's not relevant! | ||
| What? | ||
| Why would all of those people care? | ||
| I mean, sure, their money is on fire. | ||
| But it's not relevant to the working class. | ||
| The man who feeds his family and his money's on fire. | ||
| Not relevant. | ||
| Not relevant. | ||
| So we have one last clip here from Leo, because his interview isn't really that meaningful for our purposes. | ||
| But he describes what is going to be Putin's plan after this. | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| Alex should have a stronger response to this, but he can't because they're out of time. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The plan is this, the centenary of the Soviet Union. | ||
| So after Ukraine, he's going to have to get Moldavia. | ||
| He's going to go into the Baltic countries. | ||
| And at that point, all hell is going to break loose. | ||
| And so, basically, Europe, I don't think, is heading for peace, but is rather heading for a period of uncertainty, chaos, and war. | ||
| And so, if you are an American... | ||
| Leo Zagami, we've got to get you on this week about your book and all of this. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Okay, so you're your guy who's a supposed Russian expert is telling you that he's going to put together the Soviet Union again. | ||
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Alex. | |
| Do you want to rethink some of your support that you're throwing around here? | ||
| Alex, I just want to let you know that after this, again, super totally fine, both sides, invasion of Ukraine. | ||
| Just really neutral. | ||
| Just so you know. | ||
| Putin will also be invading six to seven other countries within the next year. | ||
| And he's going to do it because it's the 100th anniversary of the forming of the Soviet Union. | ||
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You gotta. | |
| You gotta. | ||
| What, are you going to not? | ||
| What, you're just going to let Finland not celebrate with you? | ||
| This sounds like the new American. | ||
| It doesn't get much more American than colonizing. | ||
| Well, there is something. | ||
| So, I don't know. | ||
| I feel like Alex might want to take a break. | ||
| A little breaky? | ||
| A little breaky? | ||
| Take some time off, rethink. | ||
| Maybe take a big long breaky. | ||
| Yeah, but I think over that time he might want to rethink how he wants to position himself. | ||
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Right. | |
| Because I think he's doing a terrible job right now. | ||
| I mean, I bet. | ||
| Unless his goal sincerely is to be an out-and-out Putin apologist as this goes on. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I don't understand what else he could be setting himself up for. | ||
| I mean, honestly. | ||
| We're at a point where I'm even willing to entertain the thought of Alex being like, well, listen, I'm going to be broke in America soon. | ||
| But if I'm not in America, maybe I'm in Russia. | ||
| They need a new Infowars. | ||
| They got a lot of woods. | ||
| They got a lot of woods out there. | ||
| I can take my daughter camping. | ||
| It's a little bit too cold for me. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I don't think... | ||
| No, it's absolutely ridiculous, but it is nuts. | ||
| I just don't get... | ||
| I don't get what the game is, really. | ||
| It's a rare instance where I can see little pieces of it and how what he's doing makes sense and the little propaganda games. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But the overarching point of it, I can't really see. | ||
| I don't know what the benefit of this is other than maintaining the idea of him as a champion of these anti-SJW kind of memes and narratives that he has. | ||
| That's the only thing that I see as being worth it for him to preserve in Putin. | ||
| I mean, I think the only... | ||
| Maybe here's what I'm thinking. | ||
| Maybe it is at a point where they're just pot committed with Putin and they can't admit they were wrong. | ||
| They can't just say, I was wrong. | ||
| So they're at a place where they've built up Putin and Trump as both being super cool dudes who are absolutely above board and not at all lying to the global community at all times. | ||
| You might be right. | ||
| And if you say Putin is actually fucking evil, like everybody obviously knew he was. | ||
| Then you also have to say, well, I was wrong. | ||
| Right, and that's humbling. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, it could be that simple. | ||
| I mean, I wish it weren't. | ||
| Or, you know, there's... | ||
| I hope it's not. | ||
| Here's an out there possibility. | ||
| What do you got for me? | ||
| I am just throwing this out. | ||
| Interdimensional aliens? | ||
| You bet. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Alex and his community never were more relevant than the Cold War. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| Having a multipolar world where there was a big, ominous villain and the consistent threat of nuclear war really, really did wonders for the anti-communist community. | ||
| You are right. | ||
| And made them an ascendant voice within... | ||
| Some of the right wing. | ||
| The John Birch Society wasn't necessarily as maligned until after McCarthy. | ||
| So I could see some kind of subconscious drive to bring back the good old days for his antiquated political ideology. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But in that circumstance, the ironic part of that is that because of the way that their politics have migrated, Their Cold War buddy would be Russia. | ||
| I don't think... | ||
| Because right now they feel like they're in a Cold War with, I guess, a democratic government as a concept. | ||
| I feel like they'd cross that bridge when they got there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| I don't know exactly how it would play out. | ||
| And like I said, I'm just spitballing. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I find a lot of this very interesting, but at the same time... | ||
| Just disgraceful. | ||
| The way that Alex is trying to position himself and pretend that he's not just doing intense rationalization, justification of Putin's invasion when that's all he's doing. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| And the breakdown was pathetic. | ||
| Even in terms of just on a scale of... | ||
| Good breakdown to bad breakdown. | ||
| He's very low on that scale. | ||
| Quite bad. | ||
| Unreal. | ||
| Anyway, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, Jordan, we have a website. | ||
| We do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| We are also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| Now go to bad Jordan. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| I'm Dr. Marbles. | ||
| And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |