Today, Dan and Jordan trace Alex's positions in the days prior to Russia invading Ukraine, compared to what he says after the fact. Also, Roger Stone still needs money for fake lawsuits and Alex is mad that CNN is doing a special about him. Citations
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| Knowledge Fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating. | |
| Knowledgefight.com. | ||
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge Fight. | ||
| Dan and Jordan. | ||
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Knowledge. | |
| I love your room. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| Knowledgefight.com. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
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I'm Jordan. | |
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| Jordan. | ||
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Dan. | |
| Jordan. | ||
| Quick question. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| What's your bright spot today? | ||
| My bright spot today, far and away, without a doubt, is a little package that we got from... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| She's going to have to come up with her own title. | ||
| Policy wonk, whatever. | ||
| Katie sent a handmade board game full of inside jokes. | ||
| Absolutely incredible. | ||
| Sort of a take on Monopoly, more or less. | ||
| But with its own rules, we haven't had a chance to play it yet. | ||
| I'm excited beyond all reason to play it. | ||
| But there's just, instead of the properties, there are people. | ||
| So you have Leo Zagani. | ||
| You have multiple versions of Alex. | ||
| You have a drunk Alex. | ||
| Cannibal Alex. | ||
| There's an incorporation of Project Camelot stuff into it. | ||
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So good. | |
| I don't think I'm doing a good job of describing it because I'm just super excited. | ||
| It's very funny. | ||
| It is a well-done system of jokes. | ||
| It's kind of incredible, you know? | ||
| For two assholes like us with comedy brains, you know, we can be shitting on people. | ||
| Boy, can we. | ||
| It's not hard. | ||
| No. | ||
| That is very funny. | ||
| Legitimately good. | ||
| I have not... | ||
| Obviously, I haven't, like, a chance to, or why would I just sit and read over all of the cards? | ||
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Just read all those cards? | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I would like to be surprised if we... | ||
| Right, when we play it. | ||
| But the ones that I did read over, they do have a great sense of humor. | ||
| Just clever and witty. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Thank you so much, Katie. | ||
| It was just a real bright spot in... | ||
| Hey, spoiler alert, the rest of this episode ain't gonna be bright. | ||
| It's not that kind of day. | ||
| No, so thank you for bringing that into our lives. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| How about you? | ||
| My bright spot is my partner, teacher. | ||
| She's making these shirts. | ||
| She's an art teacher. | ||
| She's making shirts, printmaker. | ||
| And she's making these t-shirts for other teachers in the school because, I don't know if you know, those teachers aren't treated well. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So there's a quote from this one person. | ||
| They were all getting together, all the teachers, talking about how terrible things are. | ||
| And this one teacher was like... | ||
| Man, this thing came into my room. | ||
| It was not a mouse. | ||
| It was a whole rat, right? | ||
| And so she made a t-shirt out of that. | ||
| She made a big, nice drawing. | ||
| It's a classroom. | ||
| It's a whole rat. | ||
| People have started getting them, and she made one for me, and it's very, very good. | ||
| Oh, that's nice. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| This is going to be the next piece of memeware. | ||
| I hope so. | ||
| If you're a CPS teacher, look around for It's a Whole Rat. | ||
| You'll find it. | ||
| It's a Whole Rat is going to go up there with Alex's new shirt with the president. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| There's that one. | ||
| And then there's Where's the Beef? | ||
| We don't have time to get into this, but I encourage anyone. | ||
| We'll tweet a picture of it. | ||
| Alex has a new shirt that he's selling. | ||
| It has faces of presidents, and I've been obsessed with it for the better part of the week. | ||
| I'm so confused by it. | ||
| You could dig in there for a while. | ||
| You showed me like six problems within two seconds, and I'm still digging in my head. | ||
| It's very confusing. | ||
| We don't have time to get into it, but it'll be on our Twitter. | ||
| It will. | ||
| Jordan, the reason we don't have time to get into it today is that there's major world events afoot. | ||
| Quite frankly, I had planned to do an episode at the end of this week of... | ||
| Tracking Alex's behavior over the course of the week. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then we're recording this on Thursday, and last night Russia and Putin invaded Ukraine. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| And I kind of had to redo everything. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, that'll change things. | ||
| And so what we're going to be doing is we're going to have a focus on today's episode, the 24th of February, 2022. | ||
| And then we're also going to have a little bit of a prelude, a little bit of a... | ||
| What would it be? | ||
| Preview? | ||
| Prologue. | ||
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Prologue. | |
| There we go. | ||
| And so we'll get down to business on this. | ||
| Looking at February 21st. | ||
| On to February 24th. | ||
| But before we do that, let's take a little moment, Jordan, to say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| Oh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, Brett Stevens, biggest fan. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Next, today we're going over the episode from February 21st to 24th, 2022. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| This is 2020. | ||
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Two. | |
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| It's 2022 also. | ||
| Yes, with a comma T-O-O. | ||
| Next, gay frog enthusiast Philip Hamm. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, Jordan, the heretic of Dune called Shahai Halud Shaitan. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much for calling me the devil. | ||
| That person assured me that you would get it. | ||
| Oh, I do. | ||
| Oh, indeed I do. | ||
| And we got a policy wonk up in the mix, so thank you so much. | ||
| The, all caps. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| The globalist titty baby. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| I have risen above my enemies. | ||
| I might quit tomorrow, actually. | ||
| I'm just going to take a little breaky now. | ||
| A little breaky for me. | ||
| And then we're going to come back, and I'm going to start the show over. | ||
| But I'm the devil! | ||
| I've got to be taken off the air! | ||
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Fuck you! | |
| Fuck you! | ||
| I've got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your New World Order, and fuck the horse you rode in on, and all your shit! | ||
| Maybe today should be my last broadcast. | ||
| Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. | ||
| Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow, and you never see me again. | ||
| That's really what I want to do. | ||
| I never want to come back here again. | ||
| I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. | ||
| I'll be better tomorrow. | ||
| He has not been better this week. | ||
| Not this week? | ||
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No. | |
| Oh, that's not a surprise. | ||
| It's not a good week. | ||
| It's a bad week for everybody. | ||
| It's a bad week for the world. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a bad week particularly for the people in Ukraine. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And our thoughts are with them, of course. | ||
| and I I am very confused by Alex's uh behavior and his narratives over the course of this week it does not make sense I told you this before we started recording I don't know exactly what his point is about almost anything. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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But I do know little pieces of it as we go along, and we can track it and hopefully make sense of it by the time we finish up. | |
| All right. | ||
| So here is the first clip. | ||
| We're going to start on the 21st. | ||
| So this is Monday's show. | ||
| The standoff is going. | ||
| This is the day that eventually Putin will give his speech, where he decides to recognize the breakaway states of Donetsk and Luhansk. | ||
| Right. | ||
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And so that has not happened yet. | |
| This is just the beginning of the show. | ||
| Here's where Alex is at. | ||
| Russia has already been in an eight-year proxy war with the globalists, and the West began to move heavy weapons in in the last few years. | ||
| They accelerated under Biden. | ||
| And so Putin has put a bunch of troops on the border saying you need to not... | ||
| We need to stop heavy weapons shipments. | ||
| And we need to have a major armistice, demilitarization, ceasefire meeting under their Donetsk, if I pronounce that right, compact of several years ago. | ||
| So we can just go ahead and say right off the bat that at this point Alex is taking literally everything Putin says as gospel and he's backing Russia 100%. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's good to get that out of the way so we don't have to keep coming back to it as we go through. | ||
| He's a Putin stan on Monday, for sure. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| One of the things I found most interesting about that clip, though, is the idea that a country could be in a proxy war against the globalists. | ||
| That seems like an absurd concept, but it's something that Alex just casually tosses around like it's a perfectly normal idea and that it's stupid to think anything else could possibly be going on. | ||
| Alex doesn't even have a solid, consistent group of people who actually make up the globalists. | ||
| So I have no faith that he could explain this proxy war if he were forced to, like if I had a follow-up question for him. | ||
| I don't think it would make sense. | ||
| I mean, you know, the globalists have been using other people who are also globalists to fight against Russia. | ||
| Well, that's direct then, isn't it? | ||
| So Russia, though, has been using... | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| It does seem like proxy doesn't make sense there. | ||
| It's a strange idea. | ||
| So something that was really funny in that clip, though, is the part where Alex says that the West has been aggressing on Russia for a few years now, then realizes that would mean that it started under Trump. | ||
| So he has to immediately qualify that it ramped up under Biden. | ||
| Yeah, it was the most under Biden, though. | ||
| His instincts to cover his ass when it comes to Trump stuff are really strong. | ||
| Especially considering, like, he's already said, like, that guy loves vaccines. | ||
| I mean, insane. | ||
| Insane. | ||
| Just insane. | ||
| Back and forth on him. | ||
| Just a knee-jerk, like, ooh, I don't know if people are going to get mad at me for crap. | ||
| Criticizing him about this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So also, there's no such thing as the Donetsk Compact. | ||
| That's an agreement that Alex is just making up. | ||
| I think that he's trying to remember the name of the Minsk Agreement, but he came up with the wrong mental file. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The Minsk Agreements are two formal attempts to stop the fighting that's gone on in the Donbass region, which have both been unsuccessful. | ||
| The first was the Minsk Protocol in 2014, followed by Minsk II in 2015. | ||
| The goal of these agreements was to put in place a ceasefire between the Ukrainian military and the Russian-backed separatist groups in Donetsk and Luhansk, who have decided that their own breakaway states and not a part of Ukraine. | ||
| Right. | ||
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The dynamics of this agreement are super complicated because you have to look at it from, like, you just have to look at the status of the parties from each other's viewpoints. | |
| And when you do, you kind of get a sense of how this was probably doomed to failure. | ||
| According to most of the world, this was essentially an agreement between Ukraine and Russia, since the separatist groups in Donbass wouldn't be able to continue any of their actions without Russian backing. | ||
| It's not really necessary to say that separatists in Donetsk need to withdraw heavy weapons, since without Russia they wouldn't have heavy weapons. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But from Russia's standpoint, this is a negotiation between Ukraine and the separatists in Donetsk and Luhansk. | ||
| They've routinely taken the position that they're just observers and that they're there to mediate the process, and they don't exist as a party of the agreement. | ||
| Putin sees himself as unbound from the agreement itself, at least partially for this reason. | ||
| At the same time, Ukraine specifically sees this as a negotiation between themselves and Russia, and the Ukrainian president Zelensky has even said that he has, quote, no intention of talking to terrorists, and it is just impossible for me in my position. | ||
| His perspective on the agreement is similar to how much of the world sees it, as a conversation between Ukraine and the Russian government who are facilitating the actions of the separatist groups in Donbass, who the Ukrainian government see essentially as an insurgency. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So you can see from the perspectives of all of them that negotiating tape will be very difficult to navigate based on perceptions and how they see each other linking up. | ||
| No, and this is where we get so much of that, like... | ||
| Space-based intergalactic contract law being so important is with these types of agreements, you have Putin being able to be like, nah, nah, nah. | ||
| It's them, man. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| You beat me on a technicality. | ||
| I'm not in there. | ||
| You don't have my signature there in writing, do you? | ||
| He's like Al fucking Capone. | ||
| So there was an inherent lack of agreement in this agreement, and it collapsed almost immediately with the accusations from both sides that the other side had broken the ceasefire. | ||
| So I don't know what the Donetsk Compact is. | ||
| Alex doesn't know anything about the Minsk agreements, but is making a passing reference to them to justify Russia's actions now, because he's invested in defending everything Putin does. | ||
| Monday. | ||
| Alex has built him up as the only major geopolitical force that stands against his imaginary enemies, so whenever it looks like the rubber is gonna meet the road, Alex is gonna be on Team Putin, and he'll use whatever flimsy grasp he has on history or past agreements to convince his audience that they should be too. | ||
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Right. | |
| And that's kind of fucked up. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| He's pushing the, come on, you gotta, it's, go for Iraq, just take it. | ||
| You know, it's yours. | ||
| So talk to me about what you think the globalist hierarchy is right now. | ||
| We know the devil's up top. | ||
| Right, the devil is definitely up top. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Who's his second in command? | ||
| Second in command has gotta be Klaus Schwab at this point. | ||
| You would think that. | ||
| Yeah, and then since we're dealing with Putin, I'm gonna go with Soros is up there. | ||
| He's gotta be way up there. | ||
| You would think that too. | ||
| And then, I mean, naturally, the trilateral other power is Brian Stelter. | ||
| So I think it's those three. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| There's a new flowchart in town. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Here's the headline. | ||
| The world is now in World War IV. | ||
| And it's a global corporate war against humanity designed to have a controlled implosion of society to then carry out their endgame or their destination, their goal, 80-90% depopulation of the Earth. | ||
| Their official documents say 80 to 90 percent going back to the 60s. | ||
| And these are the groups that created the Bilderberg Group, the CFR, the Trilateral Commission. | ||
| It's all the same group. | ||
| They're the capture, elite capture groups, the corporate capture groups that you know of as the Davos Group. | ||
| The Davos Group is the main PR mouth of this. | ||
| Use a Lord of the Rings analogy. | ||
| Don't. | ||
| They're about to have the big battle. | ||
| They're on the edge of Mordor. | ||
| And the forces, the good guys, are there. | ||
| And the big black gate opens and out marches an undead general. | ||
| And they say, are you Sauron? | ||
| And he says, no, I am the mouth of Sauron. | ||
| And that's what Klaus Schwab is, is the mouth of Sauron. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I got one. | ||
| And above him is one of the top ringwraiths, Larry Fink. | ||
| What? | ||
| And then above that, of course, is the devil. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Who's Larry Fink? | ||
| Larry Fink is the head of BlackRock. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| He's also on the board of, like, the World Economic Forum. | ||
| The investment group? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| BlackRock, the one that owns just, like, a bunch of shit? | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay, cool. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I don't know when he got inserted. | ||
| This was fast. | ||
| He went from not on my radar to second in command real quick. | ||
| That's a bummer. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, it's wild. | ||
| How did he get away with it for so long? | ||
| You know, there was that wrestling storyline where Vince McMahon was the higher power that was running Undertaker. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The ministry and all of this. | ||
| And then there's that big moment of, it was me, Austin, all along. | ||
| It was me. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah, he pulled up his hood. | ||
| That's how I imagine Larry Fink revealed himself to Alex. | ||
| All right. | ||
| It's me. | ||
| I was above Klaus Schwab. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm not going to say that Alex has never mentioned Larry Fink, because I haven't listened to literally every episode of this. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| But as someone who takes in a lot of Alex's content, this is not one of the villains that I... | ||
| For him to be second in command, he's really important. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He might have gotten bumped up from the middle management or Council of Twelve. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| No, I'm sure he's a billionaire in evil. | ||
| He's right under the devil. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Man. | ||
| Impressive. | ||
| Yeah, good for him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex does some stupid killing of time here, and this is something that I always find very interesting, and I don't think I'll ever ignore when it comes up. | ||
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Okay. | |
| But now... | ||
| We're going into World War IV that is economic, that is psychological, that is cyber, that is radiological, that is electromagnetic, that is chemical, that is covert. | ||
| Silent weapons, silent weapons for quiet wars. | ||
| Silent weapons for quiet wars. | ||
| Just look these terms up. | ||
| And it's what the globalists are obsessed with, and they brag how you're dumb animals, and they brag how they're going to annihilate you, and how they're going to slowly take all your resources, but make you love it while they brainwash you using Pavlovian behavioral psychology. | ||
| These are the worst villains the Earth has ever seen. | ||
| Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars, as we've mentioned before, is a fake document. | ||
| It was a hoax document that got published in Behold a Pale Horse. | ||
| Bill Cooper wrote, we went over this in great detail on episode 381 of the podcast. | ||
| So if anyone wants to know why it's really pathetic that Alex is referencing this as a real thing. | ||
| Check that episode out. | ||
| Go on back, True Believers! | ||
| It's fun to say, though. | ||
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It is. | |
| Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars is a great name. | ||
| It's a great name. | ||
| It really is a great title. | ||
| That's one of the problems. | ||
| These hoax documents have great names. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And then these UN things like Agenda 21 sound fucking mysterious. | ||
| What are you guys fucking doing? | ||
| They have no sense of creativity. | ||
| Then again, Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars, if it was actually something the government had produced. | ||
| The most terrifying document that you should never name. | ||
| You don't actually name. | ||
| I guess the fact that you know it's bullshit kind of makes you able to take it into the realm of fiction. | ||
| That makes the name a little better. | ||
| It does get into, you know, you like the judge in the Blood Meridian, but if the judge were actually alive, you'd be like, I gotta get away from the devil. | ||
| He's the devil. | ||
| Yeah, you may be right. | ||
| So, Alex has seen a meme, and I come to realize, I know we've probably brought this up before, A lot of Alex's reporting is just based on memes he's seen. | ||
| Yeah, 100%. | ||
| It's really shocking. | ||
| And particularly when we're sitting here talking about the period where tensions are really high, discussion of a potential invasion are going on, when you're reporting stuff that has to do with Ukraine based on a meme. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| It's not great. | ||
| It's not good. | ||
| You should do better. | ||
| You should do a lot better. | ||
| I saw footage out of Ukraine. | ||
| From where they were ordering people not to be allowed to protest or be in the streets for COVID. | ||
| And the police there just dropped their shields and walked off. | ||
| And that's really the answer. | ||
| That's why the globalists want robots in control and technocracy in control. | ||
| Because then humans can be cut out of the loop and there's not that human free will. | ||
| Of where the police are told, attack folks that are out here peacefully demonstrating. | ||
| No, we'll just drop our shields and leave. | ||
| That's the real courage. | ||
| You know, they'd all been talking about it before they did it. | ||
| And then the one guy decides to do it. | ||
| And they orderly just go drop their shields in a pile for the city to come pick up. | ||
| And they say, you know what? | ||
| No, we're not going to beat people over the head for being out here peacefully. | ||
| We're not going to destroy our own futures. | ||
| We're not idiots. | ||
| And that's what we should see. | ||
| So this is a great example of the information that Alex disseminates and why it can't be trusted, even when he shows a video. | ||
| Because he does. | ||
| He shows the video of this. | ||
| He's playing this video, and it's of police dropping their shields into a pile, just as he's describing, but the context of the situation is completely different than what he's saying. | ||
| He either saw this posted as a meme somewhere with a false story attached to it, or he saw the video and decided to make up his own plot about what he wanted to imagine this was. | ||
| This was not from COVID times. | ||
| It's actually a video from 2014. | ||
| It was filmed in Slovyansk, a city in East Ukraine. | ||
| There had been skirmishes in the city between Ukrainian government forces and the pro-Russian separatists, and at the point of the video being shot, the police had detained some of the separatists. | ||
| The video depicts a crowd of people threatening the police, the police realizing they're outnumbered, and them dropping their shields and leaving. | ||
| Right! | ||
| That's the situation that's going on. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Not so much, uh, we're gonna join the freedom fighters! | ||
| It's much like the tow truck drivers deciding that they're... | ||
| Ah, fuck this. | ||
| Bye! | ||
| So the thing I find really interesting is how much of the story Alex is telling has to do with his own imagination and how he's come up with detailed motives for the people in the video. | ||
| He's sure that they talked about how they were going to do this in advance to make a statement about COVID measures. | ||
| It's all just the product of him seeing a video and then deciding how he wants to make up a story about it to sell the audience. | ||
| That's his deep research. | ||
| His research in his mind, imagining nonsense. | ||
| Yeah, and he's written an entire high school basketball movie where they're all in the locker room getting together and there's some guy giving a big speech about how clear eyes, no vaccines can't lose, that kind of shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| There's a real sort of urge for the dramatic. | ||
| Yeah, everything has to be a movie. | ||
| But at the same time, that scene is itself quite dramatic. | ||
| That video is quite dramatic, just not in the way Alex wants it to be. | ||
| Yeah, well, I mean, print the legend. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That's what they say. | ||
| That is. | ||
| Or yell the legend. | ||
| Scream it as much as possible. | ||
| Yeah, shut the fuck up. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because Putin's about to speak. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Vladimir Putin is set to address the world sometime in the next hour. | ||
| We'll see what he's going to announce. | ||
| Probably that there have been Western attacks on Russian-held areas in Eastern Ukraine, that he is going to take those sectors. | ||
| Or perhaps it's that he's going to give them an ultimatum for NATO to say that they're not going to take Ukraine and they will stop shipping heavy weapons into their border, sectors, or that he's going to invade. | ||
| Clearly, this has all been done to put pressure on expansionist NATO to get them to back down and recognize Russia's legitimate security concerns. | ||
| But the globalists hate God, so they love war. | ||
| They hate God, so they hate families. | ||
| And they hate Russia because Russia is now having a multi-child policy, just like China. | ||
| So you can kind of get the sense that we're heading into this Putin speech with Alex being like... | ||
| This is all gonna be great. | ||
| This is top-level shit. | ||
| The West is the aggressors, for sure. | ||
| And he's giving the prediction right out of the gate that he's going to say that, you know, in the East Ukraine, he's gonna either annex these places or make an ultimatum about it. | ||
| So he's already preparing his audience to, like, accept that as, like, this is exactly what should happen. | ||
| Which is strange. | ||
| I mean, it's not strange. | ||
| It would be if it wasn't him. | ||
| It would be strange. | ||
| I mean, it is strange in the context of how the world should work, or is supposed to, in any sense. | ||
| But, man, it's just... | ||
| Why is everybody doing this? | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| I don't think everybody is. | ||
| I mean, on the far right. | ||
| On the far right. | ||
| I just don't understand it. | ||
| It is bizarre. | ||
| What are you guys thinking? | ||
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Um... | |
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I really don't know. | ||
| I think, obviously, one piece of it is probably just an obsession of a strongman leader. | ||
| I think that's a big part of it. | ||
| And being able to project all of your... | ||
| Let's say, culture war obsessions onto Putin. | ||
| So much of the right wing and Tucker and Alex is so defined by opposition that is meaningless. | ||
| Opposition to SJWs or trying to own the libs and what have you. | ||
| And I think that they project a bit of that onto Putin. | ||
| In the same way that Alex views him as an ally against his imaginary enemies. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| I think a lot of people on the right do. | ||
| And I think that that... | ||
| Is a piece of it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's got to be more somewhere, but I don't know what it is exactly. | ||
| I mean, ultimately, the only thing that I can really put my head around is just, these are people with non-stop violent fantasies. | ||
| I think it's probably a piece of it too. | ||
| You know, and like... | ||
| Unexamined violent fantasies. | ||
| Yeah, and every part of them is like, if I was running a country, bah, bah, bah, this is how it would go. | ||
| Bum, bum, bum. | ||
| I would just do it like a man. | ||
| No one would fuck with me. | ||
| No one would ever say anything, and then... | ||
| I'd get NATO off my borders. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it's just their fantasies. | ||
| It does seem like that. | ||
| Yeah, and so in order to lead up to this speech that Putin's giving, I noticed that Alex is doing just a lot of water carrying for the Russian government. | ||
| And you've got all of the Western unconfirmed reports that the LGBT are going to be put in camps. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| When it's the left building their quarantine camps around the world. | ||
| When it's the left that have already put our children in their pedophile camps. | ||
| No evidence of this. | ||
| Absolute crap. | ||
| They're not arresting homosexuals in Russia. | ||
| But anytime a CIA operative gets arrested, then we hear, oh, they're gay! | ||
| Again, Tim Cook can run death camps. | ||
| Why? | ||
| He's gay. | ||
| I thought it was because he had a... | ||
| Pink sweater. | ||
| Purple sweater. | ||
| Someone should tell Alex that it's illegal to be gay in Russia. | ||
| I was gonna say, he does realize that you will be arrested on account of it being illegal. | ||
| Well, maybe not everybody's gonna get arrested, but in the past years, there have been widely reported purges and arrests of people who are either gay or suspected. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| In 2013, the government instituted a bill that they said was aimed at stopping, quote, gay propaganda, which has been used to target activists and repressive voices who would speak up for the community. | ||
| The first same-sex marriage recognized in Russia between two men married in Denmark was quickly unrecognized, and then the men fled the country for fear for their lives. | ||
| Over 100 gay men were rounded up and tortured in Chechnya in 2017, which the Russian government doesn't even deem worth investigating. | ||
| What Alex is saying is bullshit, and he knows it, but he also knows that he can't allow the picture he paints of Putin to be one of someone who's harshly repressing people based on sexual identity or orientation. | ||
| Thus, Alex decides to just pretend that every instance of targeting of the LGBTQ activists is secretly them detaining a CIA agent. | ||
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I mean, it's just like, you know it's wrong. | |
| You know it's wrong. | ||
| You can't not know it's wrong if you're also lying about it. | ||
| Because even this is like, you're already talking to the crowd. | ||
| You're already tossing out white nationalist slogans. | ||
| Clearly your audience is fully on board with all your transphobia. | ||
| They would be gone by now if they weren't. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So it's like, just say, we like Putin because he arrests and disappears LGBTQ members. | ||
| And that's one reason we like him. | ||
| But I think that Alex, I mean, as flimsy a grasp as he has over history, though he fancies himself a scholar. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think even he knows that that was a little bit of the early Nazi purges. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think he knows better than to celebrate the idea. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it's like, but that's what you're doing. | ||
| I mean, that's amazing. | ||
| But also probably part of the reason Alex has to play the game that he is doing there is because if he was going to be honest about the gay propaganda law that Russia has passed, he would need to explain to his audience how it's okay for the state to curtail free speech to this drastic of an extent, and why there isn't a real serious problem for a free speech warrior like himself, or why protests are... | ||
| on in Russia. | ||
| All the things that he thinks are essential elements of quote-unquote Western culture are not carried out and respected by Putin. | ||
| And he can't accept that or sell that to the audience, so you deny it. | ||
| Well, I mean, just... | ||
| You create a new story. | ||
| How can you literally be one of these people and just watch... | ||
| Putin literally, like the moment an anti-war protester walks out onto the street in Moscow, they're fucking arrested. | ||
| And think to yourself, well, that's the type of leader that I want, because I remember when we were protesting the war in Iraq... | ||
| Especially Alex, whenever he was strongly against it. | ||
| I'm sure he would have been stoked to have a president fucking arrest him immediately. | ||
| It's just that kind of fucked up brain space. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| I think that there is an ability among some people to sort of abstractly imagine themselves in various positions within society. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I think you gain a lot of empathy for people who are living in poverty by being able to imagine yourself in poverty. | ||
| You've lived in it and experienced it, and you can call back some of those memories. | ||
| I think that Alex sees himself as the person who's doing the attacking of protesters and shutting it down. | ||
| He does not abstractly imagine himself as being someone who would be protesting the Russian government. | ||
| Never occurs to him. | ||
| He sees himself as somebody who's like, well, obviously these people protesting are wrong. | ||
| And he's never right. | ||
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No. | |
| So Putin starts his speech, and I noticed a very bizarre dynamic. | ||
| Well, perfect timing. | ||
| As we speak, Vladimir Putin has just taken the podium, and here on the Alex Jones Show, we're going to go to this announcement by the Russian leader about the ongoing conflict in Eastern Europe in the proxy war that is Ukraine. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
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Of course, my address is also aimed at our fellow citizens in Ukraine. | |
| We'll have to have a substantive and detailed conversation because the matter is very serious. | ||
| It was surreal to listen to this on Infowars because the Putin speech itself was pretty fucked up, but... | ||
| On a much more local level, it was insane how Alex just plays the whole thing and doesn't interrupt except for commercial breaks. | ||
| What? | ||
| His actions really indicate a very real reverence and respect that Alex feels towards Putin, and it was probably the longest I've seen him play a video without jumping in. | ||
| It went on over multiple segments. | ||
| Even with Trump speeches, he'd often cut in to double down or say something to do damage control, but with this... | ||
| He was just airing a straight feed from Russian TV to Infowars. | ||
| And it was very strange. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| And it makes it difficult because now, like, it's just Putin's speech. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So there isn't, like, a lot to even go over. | ||
| He's not really saying all that much. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| It's just a lunatic. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| So in one of the breaks, when he's, you know, taking a break from Putin's speech, here's his take on it. | ||
| I've studied history. | ||
| I've never heard a modern world leader be this honest. | ||
| I mean, he's like, we came in and hurt the Ukrainians. | ||
| In a way. | ||
| And Lenin gave it all away to begin with. | ||
| It's always been part of us. | ||
| And yeah, then we came in and didn't mean things to him. | ||
| And yeah, I mean, what do you want it to do? | ||
| And he's going to probably go on and say, you want to be part of Europe? | ||
| You want to be part of the New World Order? | ||
| You want your sons taught to have their balls cut off? | ||
| Because that's really what this comes down to. | ||
| Because the West is going to put your kids with adults and pedophiles. | ||
| I mean, the West is run by pedophiles now. | ||
| And I guarantee he'll probably bring up something like that. | ||
| Because he wants to go back to Russia being Russia, and things that were part of Russia being part of Russia. | ||
| He doesn't want the other parts that weren't part of Russia. | ||
| And my issue is, render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's. | ||
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What? | |
| We are not over there in Russia. | ||
| They are not attacking us. | ||
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Wow. | |
| So, that's an interesting take. | ||
| I mean, I... | ||
| I didn't know Alex was hero-worshipping Neville Chamberlain these days. | ||
| So Alex believes, incorrectly, even if you just were to... | ||
| Watch that speech or read the transcript of it. | ||
| He believes that what Putin is saying is, hey, Ukraine, live and let live. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| If you want to go with the West, go with the West. | ||
| He's like a magnanimous boyfriend getting broken up with. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| It's very strange. | ||
| The take is wrong. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's... | ||
| I mean, you could say, in a way, it was a modern leader being very honest in a sense that they were revealing that they're a psychopathic supervillain ready to invade a country because they want territory. | ||
| And it was honest in as much as, especially with the gift of hindsight that we have from a few days later, and I think you could hear a lot of people echoing this even on Monday, that this was... | ||
| An excuse. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| It was a listing of excuses and rationales for why he would invade. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I mean, you listen to that. | ||
| That's honest, in a sense. | ||
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Right. | |
| I mean, I listened to the speech and I was like, oh, he's going to invade. | ||
| Like, that's the only conclusion you can draw from such a fucking crazy speech. | ||
| It feels that way. | ||
| But at the same time, Alex is still saying this notion of, like, what he's going to do is probably... | ||
| With the Donbass, those areas, he's going to take those because that is part of Russia. | ||
| He's going to right the wrongs of Lenin. | ||
| Yeah, which is a great way to frame it if you're a lunatic anti-communist pretending that that makes sense. | ||
| Very strange. | ||
| So yeah, Alex does continue that prediction that the Donetsk and Luhansk are going to... | ||
| Russia's going to take them. | ||
| I don't know what Putin's going to say. | ||
| I predicted before this even happened he would... | ||
| So they're going to annex, you know, eastern Ukraine fully, and then if there's any attacks on it, they'll then attack Ukraine. | ||
| So this is just the beginning of a larger war, in my view. | ||
| It's a serious situation, and it's the consequences of Soros and the New World Order wanting to... | ||
| Start a war with Russia. | ||
| It's very, very simple. | ||
| So yeah, it's the West's fault. | ||
| Soros is instigating. | ||
| He's meddling around. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| On behalf of his boss, Klaus Schwab, who works for Larry Fink, who works for the devil. | ||
| Who works for the devil. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Gotta keep that org chart. | ||
| I mean, you know, Blackrock, the devil. | ||
| The devil would sit on a Blackrock. | ||
| The Blackrock was the name of the ship in Lost that has the dynamite in it. | ||
| I did not know that. | ||
| Where Arst blows himself up. | ||
| Spoiler alert for an episode in season one of Lost. | ||
| You had time. | ||
| You had time to get there. | ||
| You had time. | ||
| Yeah, so this is where Alex is at. | ||
| And we've heard him say what he says in this next clip before, but it's always funny just to remember that Alex may actually think this. | ||
| It's a shame. | ||
| Folks, I've been around 48 years, and I've been on air 28 years. | ||
| And I've seen a lot of crazy stuff. | ||
| And I knew that Putin started meeting with Shultz and Eats in the last decade of his life. | ||
| And I know people that reportedly know Putin and say, no, he's an anti-New World Order Infowars listener. | ||
| And I'm not naive. | ||
| I don't go, oh, Putin must be great. | ||
| But now you see it more and more. | ||
| Vladimir Putin repudiating communism, saying it's horrible. | ||
| He may even come out and say Western powers put Lenin in. | ||
| Because I know Putin knows that now. | ||
| And that Russia has gotten free from this to a certain extent. | ||
| And that we need to get free of this globalism as well, these parasites, and then we can have real peace. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, he's an InfoWars listener. | ||
| Putin, Putin loves InfoWars. | ||
| Man, he's just one of those InfoWars guys. | ||
| I can't imagine, like, this is my job to, like, listen to this show. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| You know, like, listen to this. | ||
| And I even can't. | ||
| I barely can handle listening to this shit. | ||
| I can't imagine if you're the head of a country making the time to, like, oh, I gotta check in and see what this drunk Texan is angry about today. | ||
| Yeah, what does his day look like that he can fit in some InfoWars? | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| And if he's listening live, it would be like the middle of the night in Russia, right? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, maybe he doesn't sleep very much, but it's not like after he eats dinner at an absurdly long table with whomever, you know, he goes down. | ||
| And he's like, now I'm in my man cave with a nice comfy chair ready to listen to Alex fucking Jones. | ||
| Having a listening group maybe with Lord Buckton, Nigel Farage. | ||
| Yeah, I got one of those, like a lost viewing party, if you will. | ||
| Thinking of other European weirdos that might show up. | ||
| So yeah, Alex is in, man. | ||
| He loves this speech. | ||
| Can't get enough. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And, you know... | ||
| I don't see how you see any fault in Putin, what he's saying. | ||
| I mean, it's all historically true. | ||
| Stalin's horrible. | ||
| Lenin's horrible. | ||
| We're sorry what we did to you. | ||
| Blah, blah, blah. | ||
| You know it's coming. | ||
| You want to be under George Soros? | ||
| Or you want to be your own country? | ||
| We don't want you. | ||
| We want to do business with you. | ||
| Just please, please don't go to war with us. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| And to hear somebody actually tell the truth from that level is powerful. | ||
| Because the truth is powerful. | ||
| And the truth lives at Infowars. | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We don't want trouble. | ||
| We don't want beef. | ||
| We just want to do business with you. | ||
| Russia. | ||
| So, from... | ||
| He listened to Putin's speech. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That speech. | ||
| And didn't interrupt. | ||
| Didn't interrupt. | ||
| It was played in entirety on his show. | ||
| We know he listened to it because he probably had a snack during it, at least. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it was probably difficult to hear for about ten minutes because he was chomping so much. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe... | ||
| He might have had soft food. | ||
| Well, that's possible. | ||
| Could have had a burrito. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He loves chimichangas. | ||
| He loves a good chimichanga. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| I think that it was really difficult for me to listen to this because it was really jarring. | ||
| The dissonance between Alex's interpretations of things and the things I was hearing. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that fucks with my head right now. | ||
| I can't imagine being alone. | ||
| I think Alex might just have had his mind blown by the notion that Putin doesn't like communism. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| And that he has distaste for Lenin and Stalin. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| For one of them, who is also a complete badass, apparently... | ||
| Total stud, according to Alex. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I just... | ||
| Cool. | ||
| The thing, too, is if you listen to the actual speech, he explains really what his problem is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, this clip was really where I think I figured out one of the most central problems with Alex's interpretation. | ||
| Putin is going in hard on Ukraine with the rhetoric referring to Ukraine's process of decommunization. | ||
| You want to decommunize? | ||
| Well, we are fine with that, but let's not stop that way. | ||
| We're ready to show you what real decommunization is like for Ukraine. | ||
| Then he goes on to say, I am decommunizing Russia. | ||
| Decommunize? | ||
| But the hardline right-wingers here are so brainwashed that Russia was our enemy for their lifetimes. | ||
| Say, oh, it's a secret plot, they're still in bed with them. | ||
| No, the Larry Finks and Black Rocks and globalist organizations hate Russia's guts because Russia is not under their control. | ||
| Larry Finks getting a lot of play. | ||
| Man! | ||
| So here is the actual clip from the speech that Alex is talking about. | ||
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And as a result of Bolshevik's policy, the Soviet Ukraine was created. | |
| We have every reason to say now that it's Ukraine created by Vladimir Lenin. | ||
| He's its creator and architect. | ||
| And it's fully confirmed by the documents from the archives. | ||
| Also including the decrees, Lenin's decrees regarding Donbass that was added to Ukraine. | ||
| And now, grateful descendants, demolishing all the statues, all the monuments to Lenin. | ||
| They call it decommunization. | ||
| You want decommunization? | ||
| Well, we are quite happy with that. | ||
| But don't stop halfway. | ||
| We are ready to show you... | ||
| What Putin was saying was a threat. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was not saying that he was going to get rid of communism, which is the way Alex is reporting that comment. | ||
| What he was saying is that the people of Ukraine are moving past their Soviet past and smashing statues of Lenin, but Putin says if you want to do that, go all the way and revert your borders back to what they were before 1922 when Ukraine joined the Soviet Union. | ||
| This is actually a very scary and brazen comment that has implications for all the former Soviet member states. | ||
| There's an underlying premise here that in order to actually leave the Soviet Union, you need to go out exactly as you came in. | ||
| And if your borders are different than when they were previously, he has the right to take that land, because it's actually still Russia's to him. | ||
| It should be pretty obvious why this mentality could be a problem for a whole host of states in the region, and Alex does not seem to be willing to understand what is being said here. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's like fucking... | ||
| Finland's worried again. | ||
| That's the level of where we're at with this. | ||
| This is not like a, oh, he's going to get Crimea. | ||
| This is like he has stated that before he dies, he's going to try and reunify the Soviet Union. | ||
| That's basically what that speech is. | ||
| There's a lot of cause for concern. | ||
| I'll say that. | ||
| That's for sure. | ||
| So, that is, I think, one of the central misunderstandings that Alex has. | ||
| This idea that he's making this threat around the idea of decommunization. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That Alex is interpreting as, hooray! | ||
| They're going to be part of the free market again! | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Market shit. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| They're going to replace a democratically elected governor with a... | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| So we go to the next day. | ||
| We go to Tuesday. | ||
| And here's where Alex's head is at. | ||
| It was so incredible. | ||
| And I'm going to do an emergency broadcast either tomorrow night or the next night where we take calls for three hours. | ||
| And one hour is going to be playing his speech and analyzing it. | ||
| My mouth, because we didn't have time to play the whole thing yesterday, so I didn't get to see it all. | ||
| I watched it last night. | ||
| My mouth was hanging open. | ||
| Communism's bad. | ||
| Stalin was bad. | ||
| Lenin was bad. | ||
| You want to decommunize things? | ||
| We're doing it. | ||
| We're having kids. | ||
| We're free market. | ||
| and we're going to fight back against the globalists and the monopolies and the West corporations trying to make everybody puppets. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| It's so weird to tune into a world leader and just truth's coming out. | ||
| It was all true. | ||
| He said, I'm sorry the Russians came into Ukraine when we were born. | ||
| You're more Russian than most Russians. | ||
| Really? | ||
| We're sorry that the communists killed you and abused you. | ||
| We apologize. | ||
| Communists are bad. | ||
| And we want you to be free, and we're not going to take you over. | ||
| Just your government needs to go. | ||
| It was put in power by the West. | ||
| You have your own government, and you need to stop attacking eastern Ukraine. | ||
| That's what I would do, knowing world history, if I was the leader of Russia. | ||
| I mean, it's like... | ||
| Hard to find fault with this man. | ||
| That's the second time he said it's hard to find fault with Putin. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| But now this has expanded, and Alex is saying that it's great for Russia to say you have to overthrow your government. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| So that would not be just involving the areas in Donbass. | ||
| No, your government was put in by the West, so you have to get rid of your entire government. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Our demands will be taking this land and overthrowing your government. | ||
| And overthrowing your government. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But you'll be free. | ||
| We're gonna take your land and overthrow your government. | ||
| Cool. | ||
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Sensible threats. | |
| That's what Alex would do. | ||
| There's like levels of reading comprehension where it's like you can understand a book or like you can understand a chapter or you can understand a page or a paragraph or a sentence and all Alex gets is a word. | ||
| But he even fucks that up. | ||
| Well, yeah, but I mean he heard decommunize and he was like, that's... | ||
| All I've got. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's latched onto that. | ||
| He's written a story about what Putin was saying based on that word. | ||
| As if that word was a prompt for him in an essay contest. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| And he failed. | ||
| That's totally what it is. | ||
| So, again, he's heard this decommunization. | ||
| He's thinking that it means a complete rejection and abandonment of communism. | ||
| That may be a part of it, but it's actually a term that refers to the states that were formerly part of the Soviet Union moving away from their time as a part of that group, oftentimes by way of purges of people who were involved in the Communist Party. | ||
| The things that Alex is saying are the characterizations of what he imagines the word means, like having kids and being free market or fighting the globalists. | ||
| I bring this point up for two reasons. | ||
| The first is that Alex seems to be really hanging his hat on that misinterpretation and he keeps bringing it up. | ||
| The second is that it really illustrates how much of Alex's reporting in geopolitical analysis is based on him making assumptions and then writing storylines based on those assumptions. | ||
| It's a really unreliable method for reporting. | ||
| When Putin discusses his dislike of Stalin and Lenin and the Communist Party, he isn't saying that he doesn't like them for the same reasons Alex does. | ||
| If you actually listen to the whole speech, it's super clear that he doesn't like them because he blames them for breaking up the Soviet Union. | ||
| Quote, It is now that radicals and nationalists, including primarily those in Ukraine, are taking credit for having gained independence. | ||
| As we can see, this is absolutely wrong. | ||
| The disintegration of our united country was brought about by the historic strategic mistakes on the part of the Bolshevik leaders and the CPSU leadership. | ||
| Mistakes committed at different times in state building and in economic and ethnic policies. | ||
| The collapse of the historical Russia known as the USSR is on their conscience. | ||
| Also, I think it would be a real stretch to say that he was apologizing for anything, even that the predecessors did. | ||
| No. | ||
| This is the state that Alex is in during the early week. | ||
| He's fully cheerleading on Putin. | ||
| He's saying he's a fount of truth and that he can find no fault in him as a leader. | ||
| Alex is fully aware that Putin is most likely going to, in some way or another, annex the Donbas region, and Alex is completely in support of that. | ||
| He's bought the Kremlin line that this action would be taken to defend Russian speakers in the region, which is the consistent pretext that Putin uses to take hostile actions against his neighbors, and Alex has every reason to know that. | ||
| But then, on Wednesday night, the status quo changed dramatically and Russia declared war against Ukraine. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| The turn of events is not unfathomable, but it's far more extreme than most people seem to have expected, and I'll admit that even though I'm no expert on the region, so don't take my word as anything meaningful, but from everything I've read and seen, I was not expecting anything on this scale. | ||
| It's ultimately not the most important piece in all of this, but because this is a show about Alex Jones, it should be pointed out that Alex was also entirely wrong about his assessment of the situation. | ||
| He completely whiffed on his interpretation of Putin's speech on Monday and used that misrepresentation and misinterpretation to justify Putin's subsequent actions that led to the invasion of Ukraine. | ||
| As is pretty much always the case, Alex is painfully wrong because he created his narratives by combining uncritical acceptance of hostile government propaganda with figments of his imagination. | ||
| But that leaves us to pick up the pieces on Thursday. | ||
| Now that Ukraine has been invaded and Alex's entire week's charade has collapsed around him, how is he going to proceed? | ||
| And more importantly, how will he pretend that he's been right all along? | ||
| That's the question we ask ourselves as we enter... | ||
| The 24th. | ||
| Yeah, you know, I mean, he's wrong about everything in the early week, but it does seem like he's cheering for, like, minimal loss of life at least. | ||
| You know, I mean, he's saying, fine, you can take your regions and shit, and maybe it's right, and all of that stuff is good, but the end point is, we're not going to start a fucking war. | ||
| That's the idea. | ||
| In his fantasy, yes. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| That's his mindset coming into... | ||
| Well, he imagines that there's a way for that to happen. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| There's a way for Russia to force the overthrow of Ukraine's government without there being civilian casualties and terrible consequences. | ||
| He's pretending that's true, but it is not. | ||
| It is absolutely not. | ||
| And I think that, much like myself, maybe I was naive, I don't think that Alex expected what happened on Wednesday evening. | ||
| I think he is caught on his back foot a little bit and really has to figure out what he's going to do. | ||
| Now we're floundering. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And it kind of leads to him retconning pretty much everything he's ever said. | ||
| Everything he's ever said. | ||
| Yeah, gotcha. | ||
| Well, we don't have to come in with our own canned air raid sirens from during the Cold War. | ||
| We got real air raid sirens in 2022. | ||
| As thousands of bombs get dropped on military targets across the birthplace of the Slavic people's Ukraine, Russia jealously does not want towards Soros to have it for himself, so Russia's grabbing it. | ||
| That's the reality of what's going on. | ||
| That's what Putin's been saying. | ||
| Oh, that's what Putin's been saying. | ||
| That's what Putin's been saying. | ||
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| He's been saying that I'm going to take it over. | ||
| He's not been saying, I'm sorry, you guys can run your own country. | ||
| Yeah, we just want free market. | ||
| No, he's saying, I'm going to take this land. | ||
| And if you want to be with Soros and New World Order, you do you. | ||
| Yeah, but you can't, because I'm taking it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's what I've always said. | ||
| This is strange. | ||
| That's a little bit off-putting. | ||
| Yeah, it's a little bit of the opposite of... | ||
| Entirely. | ||
| And if you're listening to Alex's show throughout the stretch of the week and paying any attention, you would have to be like, wait a second. | ||
| Wait, this is not good. | ||
| You said this wasn't going to happen. | ||
| Not only you didn't say this was going to happen, you interpreted Putin's words in a way to suggest that, oh, this is all cool, what he's doing is great, and now there's an invasion that's happening, and now you're interpreting these words in a completely... | ||
| In a different way? | ||
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Strange. | |
| And even then still being positive about it. | ||
| Yeah, like it's fine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean, listen, I don't think it's good that you can take over an entire country, but Soros has taken it over, so it's really taking it from Soros, not really taking over a country. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| So, boy, Alex is proud of himself for reasons that are unclear to me. | ||
| Putin has invaded Ukraine. | ||
| Is he just taking out the military targets? | ||
| So far. | ||
| But will he continue to ratchet up? | ||
| That's the formula. | ||
| That's how the U.S. does it. | ||
| That's how Hitler did it. | ||
| I mean, that's how you inchworm take over a population. | ||
| In war, you never tell people what you're really planning to do. | ||
| You're going to get the inside scoop, the best analysis there is out there. | ||
| You can read the New York Times. | ||
| They say Biden's done a great job. | ||
| This is wonderful. | ||
| You can tune in to the BBC and hear that Putin's the new Hitler. | ||
| Or you can tune in here and actually really understand the history of things and make your own decision about where all this is going, but all hell is breaking loose. | ||
| So here's a few clips of yours truly back in October and November of last year. | ||
| So you just play some clips of himself talking shit about how there's going to be a war and such, which I think at any period in his career you could come up with clips of him saying... | ||
| That kind of stuff if you wanted. | ||
| I mean, any... | ||
| Random month. | ||
| Yeah, and one of them I do remember is in the context of him talking about being out with Joe Rogan and some other of Joe's friends and then talking shit about how there was going to be a war. | ||
| And that was just... | ||
| That was part of the prediction. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Into the future. | ||
| Me and Joe Rogan and some buddies got drunk and I said, eh, there'll probably be a war, so I'm going to play that as a victory lap. | ||
| Well, I was talking to some real higher-ups. | ||
| On the day a war starts. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Classy. | ||
| But you have to understand here, he's... | ||
| Maligning. | ||
| All sorts of other information sources while saying, like, you tune in here, you get the real shit. | ||
| Like, it's not. | ||
| Listen, you go to the BBC. | ||
| You tune into Infowars and you get information that leaves you completely ill-equipped to deal with circumstances like this. | ||
| Because you've been fed a line that Putin has no fault, he is a wonderful leader, and all he really wants to do is, you know, take some of this... | ||
| Wait, you don't like unification? | ||
| You don't like decommunization? | ||
| You don't like denazification? | ||
| Dan, those are all great things. | ||
| Just like Americans for Progress is a great group of people who are for progress. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That's how words work. | ||
| They always mean literally what it is they're about. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just strange for him to be bragging and sort of pumping up his own chest when he's living in the aftermath of his own failure, more or less, in terms of information. | ||
| And he's taking a victory lap. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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| Yep. | ||
| It's glaring. | ||
| Listen, you can turn into the BBC and hear that Putin's the new Hitler in a mean tone of voice. | ||
| Or you can turn in here and hear that Putin's the new Hitler! | ||
| Hooray! | ||
| Is he gonna keep going? | ||
| I don't know! | ||
| We're gonna have a great time! | ||
| So Alex says this weekend he's gonna do a long show on Sunday. | ||
| And there's a reason. | ||
| We'll be doing special reports and more at Infowars.com as it's needed. | ||
| And we'll also be hosting Saturday live show and a special Sunday. | ||
| Six-hour live show that we're going to be doing this Sunday. | ||
| And that's going to be, again, kicking off at 4 p.m. Central Standard Time and going up until 10 o 'clock at night. | ||
| Because CNN is running it every... | ||
| Get that clip ready, please. | ||
| 18 seconds. | ||
| CNN is running this promo every break. | ||
| And the only time CNN has viewers is during an election or during a war. | ||
| So they've gone from the lowest ratings I've ever had to their ratings are quite high right now. | ||
| And why would you be running promos about Alex Jones being the devil every single break? | ||
| I got told by folks it's every single break, so I did something I never do. | ||
| I went and tuned over to CNN this morning, and the first time they went to break, it was Alex Jones, the devil. | ||
| And what does that tell you? | ||
| I mean, that is the mouth of the New World Order demonizing me. | ||
| Okay, so he's the devil. | ||
| I've gotten a number of questions about this CNN thing, the megaphone of conspiracy or whatever. | ||
| I don't know if I talked to them. | ||
| I did talk to somebody at CNN. | ||
| It was months back. | ||
| I never heard back from them. | ||
| Tell everybody what you said to them. | ||
| Well, I didn't sign any confidentiality thing. | ||
| I don't know if I would get in trouble for saying this, but one of the things that I made very clear is that I... | ||
| I would not be willing to Piece or documentary or anything that played up Alex as some kind of a mastermind or some big villain kind of thing. | ||
| Because we know he's a bumbling idiot who has weird beliefs about interdimensional demons fighting against fucking George Soros and the gang. | ||
| Yeah, and I feel that if anything I'm going to lend myself to or appear in for my own sake, if nothing else. | ||
| I don't want to perpetuate that image of him as some kind of a megaphone-wielding supervillain type. | ||
| And I don't know if that was a deal-breaker. | ||
| There's a decent chance that the person talked to me and they're like, this guy's an asshole. | ||
| Yeah, maybe. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| Oh, you're just gonna go around thinking you're some kind of special expert on Alex Jones. | ||
| That's what you're gonna do. | ||
| I think it's possible that I rubbed the person the wrong way. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| It's not like we had an unpleasant conversation or anything. | ||
| I just, I find myself to be unpleasant. | ||
| I think you're a pleasant guy. | ||
| Well, thanks. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So yeah, I'm not in that special. | ||
| That's the long and short of it for all the people who have been asking. | ||
| Did not hear back. | ||
| But, again, I want to also be clear. | ||
| When I talked to the person at CNN, they said that there were possibly multiple projects. | ||
| So this might be a completely different thing than the person I talked to. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I did not hear back. | ||
| And, hey! | ||
| Based on this, I bet I'm never going to talk to anybody. | ||
| Yeah, I would not be surprised by that. | ||
| Although, I have declared talking to Brian Stelter my white whale. | ||
| Okay, there will be that. | ||
| Stelter, come at you. | ||
| Yeah, that is going to be something I need to check off the bucket list. | ||
| So anyway, CNN doing this hit piece on Alex. | ||
| And there's a reason. | ||
| Tricking ridiculous. | ||
| I mean, they attack me in hundreds of newspapers a day. | ||
| Dozens of TV shows a day. | ||
| National shows every week. | ||
| I can't even keep track of it. | ||
| It's just everywhere. | ||
| Alex Jones is Satan. | ||
| Because they see me as a representation of everything they hate about America. | ||
| A strong, honorable man who's a father who believes in freedom and has rallied to people and has survived their attacks for decades. | ||
| And they think if we can just destroy him and steal his identity once we've... | ||
| Killed him or put him in prison, then we can somehow defeat you. | ||
| You see, they see me as you. | ||
| That's something Trump always said is they want to get through me to get to you. | ||
| They hate you. | ||
| They're your enemy. | ||
| They're at war with you. | ||
| It is absolutely true. | ||
| So that line about the enemy, you know, they're attacking me because I stand between you and them is such a powerful and toxic line for propagandists to use because it achieves two really potent goals. | ||
| The first is that it creates a centralized point that the followers need to support to the point of considering the survival and well-being of that central point. | ||
| It's as important as their own. | ||
| If not more, because they're not as important as the fight. | ||
| If Alex Jones or Trump is all that stands between you and certain globalist onslaught, then it's in your best interest to do everything you can to protect them so you don't get onslaughted. | ||
| This hustle is perfect because it works no matter what, because the dreaded onslaught is imaginary. | ||
| As long as you're in business and siphoning off support from your scared audience, you're doing your job and holding back this imagined army. | ||
| And if you go out of business or die, then it doesn't matter if that onslaught doesn't actually come because you aren't in a position to exploit the audience's fear anymore. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It works coming and going. | ||
| It's perfect. | ||
| And you're not in a position to receive any kind of consequences for doing such. | ||
| You're out of business already. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
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| Oh, you guys got scammed! | ||
| Surprise! | ||
| It's an American tradition. | ||
| So the second thing that this tactic achieves is to obscure and essentially sideline any legitimate criticism of this centralized point. | ||
| Alex is a complete liar and a noted piece of shit in just about every aspect of his life that we have any information about, but none of that really matters if he's the only thing holding back this imaginary army. | ||
| Trump is a lifelong con man who treated the US government as his tool to exploit for his own agenda and self-interest, but... | ||
| If he's all that stands between you and this imaginary army, does that really matter? | ||
| And hey, doesn't he deserve it for standing in between you and the coming onslaught? | ||
| What's a little corruption? | ||
| Honestly, if I were doing so much good, I wouldn't be able to resist a little corruption. | ||
| This is how small-scale dictatorships operate. | ||
| It's just how government works, Dan! | ||
| So this is an insidious tool of manipulation, and it's a direct abuse that Alex is perpetuating on his audience. | ||
| Also, there are other people who criticize Alex. | ||
| Boy, I can think of zero of those reasons and about a million other reasons. | ||
| I don't think those have come up on our show. | ||
| He's too honorable! | ||
| Oh, God, it's so manly! | ||
| His ability to cry and whine and do nothing for anyone else of any good. | ||
| It's just so manly. | ||
| When I think of honorable people, I think of those who refuse to take responsibility for anything. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Nothing more honorable. | ||
| So we started this 24th episode, and Alex was kind of going back on some of the interpretations that he had of Putin. | ||
| Because they were wrong and nonsensical. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| But now he's going to shift the narrative again. | ||
| Putin's troops raise Russian flag in Ukraine as Z-tanks. | ||
| Which have come from the east, and O-tanks that come from Belarus, enter deeper into the nation. | ||
| And there is no real resistance, because just like the U.S. bought off the Iraqi leadership in Gulf War I and Gulf War II, 90 plus percent of their generals, you see that Putin has already done his work. | ||
| What? | ||
| And has already paid off the Ukrainian military, and that's why the Russians know they can roll right in and face almost no resistance. | ||
| What? | ||
| Because that's how real war is done. | ||
| This is really interesting because it's actually wrong in multiple ways. | ||
| I mean, so many. | ||
| First, it's wrong in the sense that it's a complete contradiction of everything Alex was reporting and predicting earlier in the week, and at no point is Alex taking stock of how wrong he was and how he was supporting Putin directly in the lead-up to this. | ||
| The second way this is wrong is that Alex is making up everything about Putin paying off Ukrainian troops and there being no resistance. | ||
| There's been a ton of fighting with Russian air units shot down and ground fighting taking place in multiple hotspots, not just in Donbass. | ||
| Just one example of this is fighting that's taking place at the Gostomel Airfield. | ||
| Russian paratroopers came in and took over, and they were confronted by Ukrainian troops. | ||
| And as I was preparing this episode, the outcome was still unknown. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| I have not checked. | ||
| It's been, like, back and forth. | ||
| Ukraine's taking it back, and then Russia's taking it back from them, and it's just so much... | ||
| And there's reports of many other instances of fighting. | ||
| Well, the island of... | ||
| The Snake Island. | ||
| Yeah, I saw something about that just before we started recording. | ||
| Alex is reporting this complete fabrication because he needs this to be true to emotionally disconnect himself from the fact that he was part of a media chorus in the United States that cheered on and actively promoted the lead-up to an invasion that is now killing civilians and causing widespread fighting in an invaded sovereign country. | ||
| Alex supported the thing his brand is all about pretending to be against all because he's blinded by his imagination that Putin listens to his stupid show and is an ally against his protagonists enemies. | ||
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Alex cheered on something that is at best an attempt to overthrow a neighboring country's government and at worst an attempt to take the whole thing over. | |
| And he doesn't want to feel bad about that. | ||
| So in his head, this is just a situation where Putin's bought off the Ukrainian military and is marching in uncontested. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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It's not a situation where civilians are hunkering down in subway stations for shelter, where shells are hitting residential areas and where Russian troops are attacking far more than the Donbass region, which is the flimsy pretext that Alex bought from the Kremlin and sold to his audience. | |
| Alex was wrong, majorly wrongly. | ||
| wrong and in order to maintain the feeling that it doesn't matter that he's wrong this has to be fake yeah and so on his show it's fake that's Yep. | ||
| It's fake. | ||
| Can't take responsibility for a single second. | ||
| Just gotta run. | ||
| Just gotta be always running. | ||
| Tease that thread out a little bit. | ||
| It's not even just the responsibility, it's the feeling. | ||
| Oh yeah, no, of course. | ||
| I don't want to have that feeling. | ||
| Who wants to feel like they've cheerleaded the next Hitler? | ||
| Probably nobody. | ||
| There are some people who probably would be thrilled to have. | ||
| Yeah, there sure seems to be. | ||
| It's just those people generally don't have large... | ||
| Million-dollar businesses to protect. | ||
| Does seem to be that way. | ||
| Anyway, this is not the only time that people have just bought off armies. | ||
| You think the French just gave up in ten days when Hitler invaded in 1940? | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| He bought off the entire French command. | ||
| No. | ||
| And they were given dictatorship of France and moved their headquarters to Vichy for the next five years. | ||
| And that's how war is done. | ||
| The attack on France didn't last 10 days. | ||
| Also, if France was bought off to let Germany just come in, sure, a lot of French people die for no reason. | ||
| I think what Alex is talking about is that they entered Paris unopposed, but that was because the French army had already taken a gigantic hit by that point, and the French government had fled from Paris. | ||
| That's one of the historical things that contributes to the whole right-wing joke about French people loving to surrender. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We went through that with the Freedom Fries and stuff in this Iraq War. | ||
| Yeah, cheese-eating surrender monkeys, as groundskeeper Willie said. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is not how things played out in World War II, nor is it an accurate description of how the Vichy French came to be. | ||
| No. | ||
| But I guess it's simpler for Alex. | ||
| Just imagine these events in history were just like simple financial transactions. | ||
| Yeah, and like everybody... | ||
| Oh yeah, Paris, whenever the Vichy took over... | ||
| Everybody was super cool with it because they were paid off. | ||
| There wasn't a consistent non-stop resistance from that single moment on until the end of the war. | ||
| And there wasn't, like, a government in exile. | ||
| No, no, no, absolutely not. | ||
| No. | ||
| Anyway, I guess this is simpler. | ||
| It must be. | ||
| So anyway, now Alex kind of has to wrestle with the fact that Putin was lying a bit. | ||
| I can't think of any way to fault this guy. | ||
| I can't either. | ||
| I heard Alex say that twice. | ||
| And Putin is taking Ukraine. | ||
| He denied it. | ||
| They denied it. | ||
| They claimed, oh, we're just going to protect these zones, and then, oh, we're just going to rout out the Nazis, which, I mean, how does the left say no to that? | ||
| So look, here's the thing. | ||
| I will tell you how, sir! | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| Alex is saying, like, oh, Putin lied about his intentions and all this. | ||
| Great. | ||
| That's just good strategy. | ||
| Well, Alex isn't saying that. | ||
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| But great, great to, like, recognize that. | ||
| Now. | ||
| Do a little soul searching about how you went on air repeatedly, parroted those lies, and also said, this is the most truthful person that I have ever seen, the greatest world leader in terms of just given the truth, just facts. | ||
| The power of honesty. | ||
| The power. | ||
| That is what he said. | ||
| The power of honesty. | ||
| It's parody level shit. | ||
| It's insane to me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And if I were Alex, and I had done what he did, And this was the result. | ||
| Even though I don't pretend in any serious way that Alex's actions had a direct result. | ||
| No, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Putin's actions or anything like that. | ||
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Of course, yeah. | |
| He's lying to his audience, though, and he has a responsibility to them. | ||
| To apologize. | ||
| To deal with, hey, look, I bought that lie, and I sold it to you. | ||
| I wanted to believe it, and that's why I believed it. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I knew that it would be effective as something to sell you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It would not be fun, and you probably would get mad at me if I were to say, hey, Biden might be onto something here. | ||
| No one would have accepted that. | ||
| Maybe the president was telling the truth the entire time and Putin was lying, which is an inversion of how things are supposed to work. | ||
| My whole market space would kind of be fucked by that, and so I went with Putin's lies. | ||
| Because he's great. | ||
| And I sold it to you as the most honest thing in the world, whether or not I actually believed that at the time. | ||
| You need to do some unpacking on this. | ||
| Something. | ||
| And he's not. | ||
| He refuses to do it while at the same time accepting that Putin was lying about his intentions and what he was going to do. | ||
| And it's cowardly. | ||
| I mean, it is like he is spinning tons of plates, right? | ||
| But because... | ||
| He's not. | ||
| The plates aren't there. | ||
| Because there are no plates, it doesn't matter if one of them falls. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because they... | ||
| Don't exist. | ||
| So it's like, oh no, this theoretical plate would have really fucked me up, but haha, I'm just spinning a fucking stick. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Or even, like, I don't even know how to make a metaphor that works better than that, so I'm gonna go with it. | ||
| Thanks! | ||
| Here's some more bullshit. | ||
| It's about 50-50 in the numbers of who wants to be allied with the Euro, who wants to be allied with Russia. | ||
| What? | ||
| Russia said, hey, you're Slavic. | ||
| You founded Russia. | ||
| We want you. | ||
| Because Ukraine's always been the good part of town for what is the Russian Empire. | ||
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| It's mama. | ||
| And they're not going to let George Soros have mama. | ||
| And so that's what's happening. | ||
| Yeah, so Soros can't have mama. | ||
| I mean, it's just got to feel like so much more work on this one to try and like... | ||
| Pretzel your way through something. | ||
| You can't just be like, holy shit, Putin's gone nuts. | ||
| But that's why it's changing even over the course of this episode so far. | ||
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Yeah, of course. | |
| Because I don't even know where I'm at in the Ouroboros of lying. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We begin with he's attacking military installations. | ||
| Is it going to go farther? | ||
| He's going to take the whole country. | ||
| Oh, the invasion's fake. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's all... | ||
| Purchased. | ||
| It's all sold. | ||
| Nothing is actually happening. | ||
| Everything that you're seeing is a lie. | ||
| And now Soros has taken mama. | ||
| Literally everything that you are going to see is a lie, is what he's saying. | ||
| And include his show in that. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So there's a real interesting change of tone from previous days. | ||
| It's not yelling about how Putin was so full of truth and the most straight-up leader in the world who Alex can't find fault with, who just wanted to protect Russians in Donbass. | ||
| It's taking Ukraine so Soros can't have it. | ||
| And Alex doesn't seem like he is offended by that notion. | ||
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Nope. | |
| Which is... | ||
| Also, Alex is full of shit about it being 50-50 in Ukraine about joining with Russia or the West. | ||
| A Center for Insight and Research poll from December 2021 asked, quote, if Ukraine was able to enter only one international economic union, which one of the following should it be? | ||
| 58% said the EU, compared to 21% who said, quote, Customs Union with Russia, Belarus, and Kazakhstan. | ||
| Another poll from 2021 reflected 64% support among Ukrainians for joining NATO, compared to 19% who opposed it. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Alex is trying to create the impression that the issue is split down the middle because it lends greater credibility to the side that's far down in the polls, Yeah, it's climate denialism as a... | |
| Both sides. | ||
| A lot of scientists say. | ||
| You know, it's like, you know, they're equal viewpoints. | ||
| It's not necessarily that they're 50-50 exactly, but they're equal in strength, you know? | ||
| And how I feel about them. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So Alex continues in the middle of this show as it goes on to pretend that there's no fighting going on in Ukraine, which is just wild. | ||
| But that's why you're not seeing any real Ukrainian resistance, because it was all for show. | ||
| And the comedian Hollywood president was a double agent the whole time. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| That's what all the smart money is on. | ||
| That's what all the experts I know, and I'm an expert myself, know. | ||
| And so Putin's fighting a war he already won before he pulled the trigger. | ||
| And that's why we're Infowars.com. | ||
| Tomorrow's news. | ||
| Today. | ||
| This is brazen, even for Alex. | ||
| I mean, they're going to kill Zelensky. | ||
| Like, that's the plan. | ||
| I'm sorry that my response was a, uh. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was more of an exhale than a laugh, but it probably sounded like a laugh. | ||
| No, I mean, it's fucked up, and he's saying that he's a double agent. | ||
| They're gonna kill him. | ||
| I mean, that's the plan. | ||
| I have... | ||
| Difficulty assessing what I think is going to happen, and especially with circumstances as have happened over the past week, I don't know. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| And so when you're saying that... | ||
| I mean that as the intelligence that was given out by Biden is that he is target one and his family is target two. | ||
| I would not be super surprised. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But I feel so like... | ||
| Beyond my capabilities of assessing what's going to happen outside of information that is in front of me at this point. | ||
| But in terms of Alex, how is tomorrow's news today when today's news is a direct contradiction of yesterday's news? | ||
| I don't understand how that works. | ||
| Today's news demonstrates that Alex was making shit up yesterday, so if you're listening to him, you should probably recognize that tomorrow is probably going to be the time when you realize he was making shit up today. | ||
| It's important to understand that this stuff about a fake invasion and Zelensky being a double agent is rationalization. | ||
| Alex is worried that this conflict is going to escalate and end up turning into a wider war, and he knows that he's been way too public in his support for Putin. | ||
| If things continue and Russia continues to aggress on their neighbors, Alex's business model can't survive being a media mouthpiece for the enemy. | ||
| His brand works when he's talking shit and sounding like he knows everything. | ||
| It's not good when he's getting into Lord HaHa or straight up Father Coughlin territory. | ||
| This rationalization also helps Alex pivot away from overt Putin cheerleading without having to accept the consequences. | ||
| If things do get worse, he can say that after Putin went into Ukraine, he stopped cheering him on and that Ukraine was a false flag war where there wasn't even any fighting and the double agent president surrendered for money. | ||
| This allows Alex to avoid feeling bad about the people who died in the invasion, which he supported and promoted because he's an emotional and intellectual coward. | ||
| That is what's going on. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Heartbreaking. | ||
| Not for him to be... | ||
| No, the real world stuff is heartbreaking. | ||
| Well, I mean, that's... | ||
| It's so, like... | ||
| You read about America in 1937, you know? | ||
| You read about how so many people were like... | ||
| Hitler's great, man. | ||
| Hitler's super cool. | ||
| And look, I get why you don't like him, but he's gonna be calmed down by the elements around him. | ||
| They're gonna moderate him. | ||
| And it's like, we're just doing it again. | ||
| And it's just so fucking sad. | ||
| It's really hard for me to assess what's going to happen. | ||
| And the idea that this is going to necessarily spill into a world war seems to me to be... | ||
| Getting ahead of ourselves a little bit. | ||
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Sure, sure. | |
| That's the only thing that I'm pushing back on. | ||
| No, no, no, and I understand. | ||
| I mean, you know, it's easy to say that any comparison to World War II is in totality, but I am just describing the amount of propaganda and support that is being pushed. | ||
| That I don't disagree with. | ||
| That part is very strange. | ||
| It seems fairly uniform among the... | ||
| The sort of higher end of the Trump propagandist types being on Putin and Russia's side. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you know, because they're Nazis. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| So, look, this is all just fake, according to Alex, and you'll never guess who he blames. | ||
| Soros? | ||
| Make no mistake. | ||
| The fact that the Russians are taking over all the nuclear power plants. | ||
| And coal power plants. | ||
| And gas plants. | ||
| And they're taking over the government buildings and the airports. | ||
| And then some of the military people I know say, yeah, I've seen the footage. | ||
| It looked like a bunch of young 18-year-old Russians, you know, that aren't even special operations, dragging rocket launchers around. | ||
| And no one's opposing them. | ||
| This looks fake. | ||
| This is a real war. | ||
| Well, that's because it's all a big drill. | ||
| The Ukrainian military was bought off. | ||
| And so now we'll see what happens with their puppet president. | ||
| A lot of times puppets end up getting hung, but we'll see what goes on. | ||
| But this is all directly because of globalist leftist Western forces. | ||
| With all their transgenderism and all of their pregnant flight suits and all of their CRT in the military and all this, the entire world thinks we're a complete joke now. | ||
| and SJWs. | ||
| Alex is such an idiot and he's so caught up in his own narratives that the literal invasion of a sovereign country has to somehow be related to his bigot culture war obsessions. | ||
| It's really remarkable how little of substance he has to say and how much he retreats to these things he's completely making up, like the war is fake, and things that are really just muscle memory bigot culture war memes that he makes money spread It's... | ||
| Pathetic. | ||
| I don't know any other words. | ||
| He should really have a boss to give him a performance review. | ||
| Because this is bad. | ||
| I mean, that is an element that I've seen repeatedly come up that is an undercurrent of a lot of support for Russia on this one, is that we hate trans people too. | ||
| I mean, it's deep set. | ||
| There's so many little arguments I've seen that are like... | ||
| And we've got trans people. | ||
| And you're like, what are we fucking talking about? | ||
| Is that it? | ||
| Is that what you need? | ||
| You need somebody to kill trans people for you. | ||
| That's what you want. | ||
| And it's fucked up. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It's so fucked up. | ||
| It is. | ||
| To be fair, Alex also took a swipe at CRT. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| That one, I think, is just a bonus. | ||
| I don't really know how to say anything other than what you're saying. | ||
| Like, it's just... | ||
| It is what it is. | ||
| It speaks for itself. | ||
| It really does. | ||
| It really fucking does. | ||
| This complete monster. | ||
| So Alex has a new conspiracy a little bit later. | ||
| He comes back from break and he's got a new one. | ||
| Yeah, well, yeah. | ||
| I'm telling you, where Putin has miscalculated, and I guess he just doesn't care he's got nuclear weapons, is that they're going to cut the power off in areas and pull a bunch of shenanigans and blame it on Putin. | ||
| You can bet your ass on that, okay? | ||
| That is the default move here. | ||
| A false flag to be blamed on the Russians. | ||
| And the Russians... | ||
| It looks like taking the bait to me. | ||
| I would not have done what Putin did. | ||
| I know he thinks it's their country, their people. | ||
| It's being taken from them. | ||
| That's where Russia started was the Ukraine. | ||
| They're moving weapons in. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| But he's looking three, four moves ahead. | ||
| I'm looking 20 ahead. | ||
| So here's the narrative up till this point. | ||
| Putin has paid off the Ukrainian military to stand down, thanks to some involvement from the double agent President Zelensky, and is going to end up taking over Ukraine. | ||
| I guess that Ukraine is now in on the whole thing, but the international globalists who still don't like Putin are going to do some false flag where they cut off the power, maybe in Ukraine or something, and blame Putin for reasons that I don't really understand. | ||
| I don't get what the game plan is here. | ||
| If the rest of the stuff Alex is saying is to believe... | ||
| I don't really know how this would be a meaningful part of the story. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's not even clear storytelling, and I think Alex is just throwing whatever at the wall. | ||
| It does have that feeling of just like, okay, okay, no, no, no, I got a new thought. | ||
| All right, so ignore the last stuff. | ||
| Okay, here's my new pitch. | ||
| Like, it's got that writer's room feel of like... | ||
| There's just a bunch of people throwing out ideas like, is this something? | ||
| Is this a good... | ||
| Putin got suckered into this somehow, but he also paid off the Ukrainian military and government in order to invade. | ||
| He got suckered into it by the triple agent president. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's been preparing to buy off the Ukrainian military, and now then they're going to do false flags. | ||
| To blame him so when the Ukrainian military fights back, it'll seem like they weren't paid off. | ||
| And Soros paid them off now. | ||
| But if the false flag power attacks are in Ukraine, I don't get what that achieves. | ||
| If they're outside of Ukraine, like in the United States or United Kingdom, I don't think you need to invade Ukraine to say that Russia did them. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| I don't think that's a necessary piece of this. | ||
| Don't need it. | ||
| It all is... | ||
| If I were reading this screenplay, I would ask for an edit. | ||
| I would ask, just give it another pass. | ||
| This is muddy. | ||
| Well, I mean, it does seem like... | ||
| I guess what he's trying to... | ||
| I guess he's trying to go back to the proxy war idea again, so... | ||
| So Putin's paid off Ukraine and they're just going to take it, right? | ||
| But then the EU doesn't want them to just take it because Soros needs it. | ||
| So they're going to put false flags in Ukraine, which gives them an excuse to go into Ukraine to fight Putin. | ||
| Is that what he's trying to say? | ||
| If so, that's such a long walk. | ||
| It's so crazy. | ||
| Just be like, hey man, you can't attack here. | ||
| And then go, go, go, go. | ||
| If that's what you need to do. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Speaking of crazy, we got a guest up in the mix. | ||
| Oh, God, no. | ||
| It's not Steve. | ||
| Oh, thank God. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| I thought it might be. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| Who else are you going to come on to make lies for Putin? | ||
| Yeah, Steve might be too much in the doghouse. | ||
| It's someone else. | ||
| Roger Stone, former top Trump advisor, always has the ear of the president. | ||
| We'll leave it at that. | ||
| They talk quite a bit and hang out quite a bit there in Florida. | ||
| He lives right by Mark Long. | ||
| Convicted Fallon. | ||
| And he's got a lot to say about Russia. | ||
| January 6th and so much more. | ||
| Roger Stone, thanks for coming on with us today. | ||
| Alex, it's great to be back with you. | ||
| Well, as we used to say when I was a correspondent for Infowars, tomorrow's news today. | ||
| We predicted this a good ten days ago, that the plan to war was inexorable. | ||
| This was, as I have said previously, entirely avoidable. | ||
| I don't know what Roger might have been saying at whatever point, but Alex absolutely did not call this wild. | ||
| This is... | ||
| Yeah, that's a little bit offensive. | ||
| I just don't have, you know, it is a little bit, maybe I'm a little jealous, you know, because I don't have that level of confidence and psychopathic ability to just declare that I did something right. | ||
| You know, especially not if I didn't. | ||
| Even if I did something well, I'm terrible at being like, hey man, that was all me and I would like all of the credit. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Yeah, it's brash. | ||
| Bold. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Gotta give it. | ||
| Fortune favors. | ||
| Yeah, well, it seems to for him. | ||
| So Alex and Roger are talking some Ukraine news, and Roger drops a piece of information that even Alex has to be like, wait, hold on now. | ||
| Mic down for this. | ||
| This is wild. | ||
| So, one thing that did bother me, and that that was that in one of the so-called unaligned regions where the Russians have already taken control, they're starting to force people of the Jewish faith to register. | ||
| I don't like that. | ||
| That bothers me a great deal. | ||
| Is that real? | ||
| That is a press report that I read this morning. | ||
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I think Roger's pretty out of line here. | |
| If Alex hadn't done a very out-of-character follow-up question, Roger would have been allowed to claim on air as fact that Jewish people were being forced to register in one of the parts of the Donbass region. | ||
| Because Alex asked if it was true, which is, again, bizarre for him. | ||
| Wild. | ||
| Yeah, Roger has to retreat to a, well, I heard it somewhere, maybe it's not true kind of defense. | ||
| He also conveniently doesn't say where this news report he got it from was, so it could just maybe not even exist. | ||
| Just a random ass tweet. | ||
| Since Roger doesn't specify, I'm left to speculate about what he's talking about, and the best I can do is that in 2014 there were flyers that people found in East Ukraine that said Jewish people over 16 had to register with the Comisar. | ||
| These were terrifying, obviously, but also they appear to have been a hoax with neither the Ukrainian nor the pro-Russian separatist side clearly being behind the distribution. | ||
| Some believe that it was possibly an extortion racket that some splinter groups of the separatists are trying to get going, but it's hard to say for sure. | ||
| That said, this was news from the last invasion, but all the same... | ||
| This is a super serious allegation that Roger is just throwing around. | ||
| If he's going to act like that, he needs more to back it up than some random thing he may have heard that he doesn't even know if it's true or not. | ||
| It's fucked up. | ||
| These standards are too low. | ||
| He said that Russia is forcing Jewish people to register. | ||
| Is that what he said? | ||
| Or was he saying that Ukraine? | ||
| No, he's saying that the Russians are going into a territory and saying that Jews must register. | ||
| Right? | ||
| It's confusing. | ||
| I mean, if that's what he's saying, I feel like he's justifying a war against Russia. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Like, you can't also be like, and it's cool that Jews are registering. | ||
| Maybe it's a situation where he's assuming that Russia doesn't have control over Donetsk and Luhansk. | ||
| And so maybe the Ukrainians are doing it. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| Because it goes along with the denazify kind of idea that Putin gave in the justification for the declaration. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But, I mean, it wouldn't make sense for them to do it now after the war has started. | ||
| Let me tell you about aim for wars. | ||
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That's a good point. | |
| A lot of stuff doesn't make sense. | ||
| No need to explain further. | ||
| Yeah, and I don't feel we get any other clarification on this because Alex asks that follow-up question and it cuts Roger off at the knees. | ||
| He has to retreat because he can't defend this position. | ||
| No, absolutely not. | ||
| So we don't get any more information. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Anyway, Putin invaded. | ||
| He's going for the whole country. | ||
| And Alex, again, refuses to accept that he fell for this shit. | ||
| All right, Roger Stone drives a shotgun with us a little bit in the next hour. | ||
| Then I'm going to have two hours of open phones ahead of Paul Joseph Watson. | ||
| And then I'm going to be hanging around here. | ||
| I'll be on the war room. | ||
| I'm looking to do some nighttime shows. | ||
| This is all so huge. | ||
| Russia is invading the whole of Ukraine. | ||
| Putin has used deception, as you do in war, and is now moving into the whole thing. | ||
| Used deception on you. | ||
| He used deception. | ||
| On you. | ||
| Well, you know what? | ||
| Sometimes disinformation is necessary for enemies and allies, so I can forgive you. | ||
| I understand QAnon, but look, the deception didn't really work with much of the international community. | ||
| Okay, so you're saying... | ||
| They worked with Alex and Tucker. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Now that does make sense. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So... | ||
| Get off your fucking highfalutin horse gear with this deception stuff. | ||
| So then shouldn't you have to then say, other people got it right, and I got it wrong? | ||
| I'm glad you brought that up. | ||
| We are in a global convoy. | ||
| Amazing footage coming in of shot-down Russian helicopters. | ||
| Full-scale invasion. | ||
| One thing Biden said was true. | ||
| I guess clocks... | ||
| Even when they're broken, all right? | ||
| Twice a day. | ||
| Well, Biden was right. | ||
| Gotta give it up. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Gotta give it up to the Somali Biden. | ||
| So now Alex has... | ||
| He's admitting that Biden was right. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Biden was right. | ||
| But you know what he's not admitting? | ||
| Now what do we do? | ||
| He was wrong. | ||
| Alex was wrong. | ||
| Well, I think it's implied that if you admit Biden was right... | ||
| You have apologized for being wrong. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Also, the whole shot down helicopters thing would seem to contradict Alex's earlier point about the Ukrainian military just being paid off by Putin, but yet, I don't see him retracting that or correcting himself or wrestling with how he was wrong. | ||
| I also think you should take the realization that Biden was right a little harder than he is. | ||
| I would have expected that. | ||
| It really hurts his whole thing. | ||
| I mean, for just to be blase about, well, I guess he's right. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Sometimes you get, I mean, bananas. | ||
| He's the devil. | ||
| He's literally working for the devil. | ||
| Wow, you sound like CNN. | ||
| He can't. | ||
| He can't be right sometimes. | ||
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Oh, Biden. | |
| Biden was the devil. | ||
| Yeah, Biden's the devil. | ||
| I thought you were calling Alex the devil. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Biden, I mean, if in your cosmology, Biden is working for the literal devil. | ||
| But he's way down the flow chart. | ||
| Sure, that's true. | ||
| It's not Larry Fink. | ||
| He doesn't have the Fink info. | ||
| Yeah, the Fink foe. | ||
| So, Roger's appearance can go fly a kite, because quite honestly, it's just the same shit. | ||
| He just wants money. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's no question about it, but Alex, we have no choice. | ||
| But to fight, and we can't fight if we are unarmed financially. | ||
| So people need to go to stonedefensefund.com. | ||
| Help me not only sue Adam Schiff in the January 6th committee, but help me sue Hillary Clinton and her retinue. | ||
| I'm going to try to get Alex Jones and General Flynn and maybe even Paul Manafort to join me in that class. | ||
| Oh, I'm on board. | ||
| I mean, I have to fight back. | ||
| We have to do it. | ||
| StoneDefenseFund.com. | ||
| People can find books, films, t-shirts, and more on your other site. | ||
| I'm thrilled for this not to happen. | ||
| Wow, so fucking petty. | ||
| Really sounds important today, doesn't it? | ||
| It does. | ||
| It does. | ||
| I'm going to sue Hillary Clinton. | ||
| I've got a fake lawsuit for Hillary Clinton. | ||
| You should give me money today so I can fake... | ||
| Sue Hillary Clinton. | ||
| I think Roger's taking to this lawsuit grift a little too eagerly. | ||
| He's thirsty. | ||
| It's too thirsty. | ||
| It doesn't come off well. | ||
| He cannot come off desperate. | ||
| The moment he comes off desperate, his mystique is punctured to the point where you're like, oh, you're a sad, petty old man, aren't you? | ||
| With a tattoo of Richard Nixon on your back. | ||
| He needs, like... | ||
| I don't know, weird consulting fees paid by foreign dictators to be paying for his top hats. | ||
| He can't be coming to you and asking for money for a top hat. | ||
| It does not work. | ||
| That's not how that goes. | ||
| You don't get to be the dandy villain with crowdfunding. | ||
| Yeah, if you want to be a fop, you gotta con upwards. | ||
| You can't con down if you want to be a real... | ||
| Well, the information con goes down. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'm sorry, it is done to the people on the lower left. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The money con goes up. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's the flow chart for Roger's shit. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So Alex has a meme that he saw. | ||
| A lot of memes. | ||
| A lot of memes. | ||
| This is what folks are putting out on Twitter and Instagram and everywhere, and it's going viral. | ||
| And you can look it up. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| I don't just believe what people put out. | ||
| The World Economic Forum. | ||
| Countries where the Prime Minister is a member of the World Economic Forum. | ||
| And it's basically every country in Western Europe, except for Spain and Portugal. | ||
| That's a real cult. | ||
| That's what we're up against. | ||
| So what does it mean to be a member of the World Economic Forum as an individual? | ||
| Does it mean that you've gone and given a speech at one of the Davos conferences, or that you've attended one? | ||
| This seems like a low bar. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's not people on the boards, obviously. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| The Board of Trustees or anything? | ||
| Because Trump went to Davos in 2020. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But every... | ||
| Okay, so all the people who go to the World Economic Forum... | ||
| Obviously. | ||
| They can become a member, and if you choose, about 10% of those who become members are taken to their underground brainwashing center, where they are hooked into a chair, E and F on the temples. | ||
| W, that's what it is. | ||
| Man, that's bad. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| No, WF is World Economic Forum. | ||
| No, electro... | ||
| neural... | ||
| EEG? | ||
| No, never mind. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's the... | ||
| whatever. | ||
| But, yeah. | ||
| So that's what they do. | ||
| That's what they do. | ||
| Okay, yeah. | ||
| So this is just cherry-picked bullshit that Alex is reporting based on a meme that was posted on Twitter by former NHL player and current conspiracy peddler Theo Fleury. | ||
| If you recall, he was one of the people who was originally peddling the million truck nonsense on Fox News in the lead-up to the Ottawa occupation, and I guess that brand was lucrative for him, so he's doubling down on the World Economic Forum stuff. | ||
| He posted a meme that wasn't even about Western European leaders, but of people in the Canadian federal government who are, quote, listed on worldeconomicforum.org slash people. | ||
| That page is blank, and it has been in all the captures on the Wayback Machine going back to 2016, so I'm not sure how anyone would even go about checking this list, but even assuming that all the people he has on there have attended Davos, that proves nothing, and it has nothing to do with Western Europe. | ||
| Also, not to split hairs here needlessly, but... | ||
| Most people who have breakdowns of world regions, they consider Spain and Portugal to be in Southern Europe, not in Western Europe. | ||
| This is a dumb meme that Alex saw. | ||
| He decided it was groundbreaking. | ||
| He thought he should write a news story about it before reporting on it. | ||
| This is dumb. | ||
| This is his process. | ||
| This is what he does. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Saw a meme. | ||
| By a former NHL player, Theo Fleury. | ||
| What was his... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You didn't pull up his stats? | ||
| No. | ||
| Do we have a card? | ||
| But here's the problem, too, with me. | ||
| I don't know anything about hockey, and so if I looked at his card, it would probably be hieroglyphs. | ||
| I don't know what these stats are. | ||
| You get points for a goal and an assist. | ||
| I get that. | ||
| Hat trick? | ||
| That's three. | ||
| What's icing? | ||
| Icing is whenever you skate... | ||
| And then you're like... | ||
| And then you hit somebody in the face with some... | ||
| Is it really? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| I think it's a stat. | ||
| Maybe it's not. | ||
| See, this is how little I know about hockey. | ||
| Oh, icing is whenever you get the puck out of there. | ||
| So your defense... | ||
| You get the puck out of there. | ||
| You get your defense, and the offense is like... | ||
| And you're like, I gotta get this puck out of here! | ||
| If you get it out of there, that's icing. | ||
| Icing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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On the cake. | |
| Why not? | ||
| So, Alex's head... | ||
| What I would describe as internally inconsistent narratives about Ukraine on the 24th that all fly in stark contrast to the nonsense he was doing at the beginning of the week. | ||
| And this clip is where I believe he gives up. | ||
| And so we're here watching all this unfold. | ||
| We're here watching this as it takes place. | ||
| And then we're told... | ||
| That the borders of Ukraine are the most holy thing in the world and that the Russians shouldn't be there when the people controlling and running our country when the very sovereignty of our nation is being erased in front of the planet. | ||
| And here's the bottom line. | ||
| It isn't just that they don't care and broke the border. | ||
| It's that the globalist UN have told the third world to come here. | ||
| They have shut down the third world. | ||
| They've been in years of lockdowns to then flush them up here to be now political pawns, a new permanent underclass of the globalist, making us the third world. | ||
| Not to empower the third world, but to permanently use these masses of people they've been exploiting as an invasion force that they control. | ||
| You can see here that Alex essentially has nothing to say about the situation in Ukraine. | ||
| This is very clearly an attempt to shift the focus into a subject matter that he's much more comfortable yelling about, namely, his racist Great Replacement conspiracies. | ||
| This doesn't even merit response, because the situations he's describing aren't analogous in any way. | ||
| Instead, I'm playing this clip solely to demonstrate one of the ways that Alex's coverage works. | ||
| He's throwing so much shit at the wall because he has no idea what's going on, but he's still expected to be the guy who knows everything. | ||
| This manifests first at the beginning of the week as his supposed deep wisdom about Russian history and how Putin is so right that there's a need to defend Russian speakers in Donbass. | ||
| Alex fully understands Putin because he's an info warrior, and Putin just wants free market and prosperity for the people to have kids in the West who can survive and thrive. | ||
| Then that falls apart when Putin invades Ukraine, so Alex needs a new story. | ||
| This largely takes the form of Alex making up that there's no Ukrainian resistance and that Putin paid off Ukraine, including the double agent President Zelensky. | ||
| Alex knows that this isn't going to fly, and by this point in the show, I'm sure one of his interns is telling him that there's fighting in multiple locations around Ukraine, and Alex even let slip that there were Russian helicopters down. | ||
| That narrative isn't going to last, but it was a first try to make a further conspiracy out of the situation that he could use in the future. | ||
| He's buying time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| With that failing, he needs another distraction, because without distractions... | ||
| It's really too obvious that Ukraine is under attack, and Alex reported completely false information that made his audience support the actions that led up to it. | ||
| The perfect distraction here is exactly what Alex is doing. | ||
| His arguments have failed, his information is shown to be bullshit, so the last refuge he really has is just to point to his racist Great Replacement obsessions and say, why should I care about their border when we're not fighting to defend our border? | ||
| It's essentially a white flag in terms of the whole narrative building exercise here. | ||
| And maybe a white nationalist flag would be more appropriate in terms of this, but the point is that... | ||
| It's more of a white hood, really. | ||
| Yeah, if he's pulling this out, Alex doesn't have shit. | ||
| This indication of giving up kind of even started earlier in the show, where he was trying to say that acceptance of trans people in the United States somehow led to this, but this is where his resignation is really crystal clear. | ||
| Maybe he'll have something more to say at a later day, or someone will feed him some information during a... | ||
| But at this point, this dude is done. | ||
| When you hear this, that is done. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He's baked. | ||
| Yeah, that's straight up like Pat Buchanan, like 9-11 happened because we allowed gay marriage or whatever it is. | ||
| It's straight up that kind of fucking... | ||
| It's no more anchored to reality. | ||
| No, it's probably magic. | ||
| What's happening is magic from God is a punishment for us. | ||
| Caring about people. | ||
| That was sort of earlier in the episode, a little bit of a lash out, kind of. | ||
| But when he's sitting here saying, why do we care about Ukraine when our southern border, they're flooding an invasion force of third world populations, that's giving up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's being like, okay, guess what? | ||
| All the shit, the racist shit that I yell about all the time, that's more important than this. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| And he wouldn't do that if he actually had something to work with. | ||
| He's pathetic. | ||
| It is the sign of somebody who has no fucking clue. | ||
| Yeah, and maybe he got a mean text from Skousen during the break. | ||
| So, here is an interesting mirror that I noticed. | ||
| Early in the episode, we talked about Monday. | ||
| Alex plays, without interruption, Putin's speech. | ||
| He doesn't cut in and say, like, you know what, actually, anything. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Instead, he just listens reverently. | ||
| On this episode, on the 24th, Alex goes to a Biden speech. | ||
| Listen to his behavior and how it's a little bit different. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I imagine it'll be a little different. | ||
| Even before it starts. | ||
| We are back live, taking your phone calls, but Biden just started speaking, so please be patient callers. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Larissa and Virginia and everybody else, I'm going to get to you in a moment, but let's hear some of Biden, if he can get his words thrown together. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| Sorry to keep you waiting. | ||
| So even before it starts, he insults him. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| If he can get his words together. | ||
| Let's see if this grumpy old dum-dum can even speak words right. | ||
| The reverence that he showed and the respect that he showed for Putin is in direct contrast. | ||
| The most honest and powerful man I've ever seen speak. | ||
| And only saying that after you've already formally cut off the speech, so you're not talking over him at all. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Now, here is how Alex behaves during Biden. | ||
| This is a premeditated attack. | ||
| Vladimir Putin has been planning this for months, as we've been saying all along. | ||
| Like shutting Keystone down? | ||
| More than 175,000 troops. | ||
| See, this is what he does. | ||
| What a child. | ||
| He's already said that Biden was right about the situation that we're looking for. | ||
| Yeah, but now I don't care about Ukraine because what's more important is Keystone. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| No, it's just opposition to Biden. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| No, I know. | ||
| It's just performative. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it also leads to what I would describe as a bad stand-up riff. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| He's talking over so much that he gets distracted into like, hey, you know what the problem with this is? | ||
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Get out of here. | |
| It's like a bad Adam Carolla riff. | ||
| It's unfolding largely as we predicted. | ||
| And I love how they do the sign language as a virtuous signal. | ||
| When all TVs and phones... | ||
| No, it's so people who can't... | ||
| It's just some weird leftist thing like, look, we don't just have him talking, we do this, so you feel like we're inclusive. | ||
| Look, we're good, we added that. | ||
| Cyber attacks against Ukraine. | ||
| It's called BS. | ||
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We saw a stage... | |
| He's so desperate to say stuff over Biden, so you can't hear him. | ||
| You can't hear the points that are being brought up. | ||
| Because they are threatening to Alex's... | ||
| Well, because Russia is attacking with 175,000 troops. | ||
| Well, hey, but let me tell you about... | ||
| No. | ||
| It's closed captioning. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You don't need sign language people. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
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What? | |
| Yeah, you got them. | ||
| Cool, man. | ||
| That's what we need to deal with right now. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Awesome. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I mean, this is ridiculous. | ||
| The way he's behaving... | ||
| So differently between these two speeches is it tells you all you really need to know. | ||
| It's absurd. | ||
| We create two new so-called republics on sovereign Ukrainian territory. | ||
| Sovereign? | ||
| The left teaches no borders, no walls, no USA at all. | ||
| And we don't have borders and they shouldn't exist, but now sovereign Ukrainian territory, which was part of Russia for a thousand years. | ||
| Continue. | ||
| Wait, hold on now. | ||
| I'm sorry? | ||
| You seem to be going back on some stuff because you want to yell at Biden. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So now instantly we're like, yeah, let's take over Ukraine. | ||
| And also, hey, pump the fucking brakes. | ||
| Biden was never chanting, no borders, no wall of the USA at all. | ||
| Good God. | ||
| I would give anything for a president to be like, borders are bad. | ||
| That'd be great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that Alex, in much the same way that he'll say like, George Bush was a liberal or something like that. | ||
| He paints with such an untargeted brush and is so dumb with his definitions that he's like, oh yeah, Biden and the no borders people. | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Alex convinces himself basically to go back to being solidly pro-Putin just because he gets mad at Biden. | ||
| Putin is the aggressor. | ||
| Putin chose this war, and now he and his country... | ||
| Yeah, if I move in on your doorstep, and I just say, I'm going to live on your porch now, and then I aim a machine gun at you when you walk out your door every day, it's actually true. | ||
| If you finally walked out and punched the dude in the face that aims a machine gun at you, you're the aggressor. | ||
| I mean, really? | ||
| Does anybody buy this crap? | ||
| It's just not true. | ||
| So you can see Alex is becoming more and more pro-Putin as Biden speaks, because Alex's politics and his perspective, it isn't anchored to anything other than opposition. | ||
| His only coherent perspective is to be against the positions that are expressed by his imagined enemies. | ||
| So as soon as Biden is giving a speech saying that Putin is the aggressor here, Alex has to deny that and go on his knee-jerk rant, even after saying earlier in the show that Biden was right about this situation. | ||
| That Putin is taking the whole country. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Pure and simple, this is an emotional outburst on Alex's part. | ||
| He doesn't even really mean the things he's saying, I don't think. | ||
| and the shit that's coming out of his mouth contradicts the things he was saying earlier in the show, but it doesn't matter. | ||
| It doesn't matter because the product he's selling the audience isn't analysis. | ||
| It's an emotional experience. | ||
| The emotional experience of pretending to yell down Biden and shut him down, you liar. | ||
| It's the emotional experience of pretending to know secret information that no one else has. | ||
| It's the emotional experience of being proven right, even when all the things that are happening are the opposite of what you predicted. | ||
| This is the emotional resonance that Yeah. | ||
| And it's all... | ||
| It doesn't mean anything. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, if what you're selling people is secret special knowledge that makes them smarter than everybody else, more powerful than everybody else, and, I mean, who cares what's real? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| As long as you're providing... | ||
| The feeling of being smarter than everybody else. | ||
| If you feel it, then it's real, man. | ||
| Yeah, then it doesn't matter if you're not holding anything. | ||
| It's magic. | ||
| And I think that this next clip, Alex, he shuts off Biden's speech because he's like, fuck this, I can't listen to this asshole. | ||
| Pretty quickly, compared to the very long time he listened to Putin. | ||
| You know, isn't that such, like, you know they'll never do it. | ||
| It's never gonna happen. | ||
| This is such a simple moment of like, you're going to listen to everything Putin says, even though Biden's right, you're still going to side with Putin just because, just because. | ||
| Just because I feel like it. | ||
| Even though, yeah, I'll never, not even this one time, when I do know he's right, I've said it, not even this one time can I listen. | ||
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No. | |
| I can never do it. | ||
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Nope. | |
| Not once. | ||
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Nope. | |
| Never. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Not even when it's fucking war, which you are against, theoretically. | ||
| Yeah, he hates intervention. | ||
| Or, like, you know, regime change wars, he certainly is opposed to those, except for now. | ||
| It's strange, but not that strange. | ||
| Now, going back to this feeling versus reality kind of conflict, this next clip, I think, is actually really indicative of that. | ||
| Alex has a little bit of a clip of Nancy Pelosi that he thinks is such a slam dunk. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Now, let me treat you to Pelosi, where she's saying a country in a whole different area of Europe is Ukraine. | ||
| She doesn't even know the country of Ukraine, and she says a totally different country. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
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Some of the leadership of... | |
| Well, if you look at the map and you see Hungary... | ||
| And you see how it is encircled. | ||
| Russia, Belarus, Crimea, which they have taken over, but it's still a danger now to Ukraine. | ||
| And then you see Poland and Romania and all of those countries just abutting that Russian influence. | ||
| So you heard Russia invaded Hungary, right? | ||
| So Alex is a liar, and this clip is deceptively edited to make it sound like Pelosi thinks Ukraine is hungry. | ||
| He achieves this by cutting off what he had said just prior to that clip starting. | ||
| Quote, I had the privilege of sitting next to the president of Latvia for most of the plenary sessions, and others have... | ||
| Others there were very concerned about what would be next. | ||
| Right. | ||
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When she mentions Hungary as well as Poland and Romania, she's referencing countries that were of concern to NATO members about states that could be in trouble if Russia took over Ukraine. | |
| Alex either knows this and is playing the clip deceptively, or he never even took the time to find context and is just desperate to play a clip that seems to show someone he doesn't like misspeaking, which I guess is a huge win for the Infowar. | ||
| And that's the feeling. | ||
| He wants to spread this feeling of Nancy Pelosi doesn't even know what countries are what. | ||
| We got him. | ||
| See? | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Look at how smart you are and how stupid she is. | ||
| Yeah, but the reality of it is just a lie. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's not hard to come to the conclusion that if Putin's not stopped, he's going to do it again. | ||
| It is a very simple thing. | ||
| If he wasn't stopped from 2008, he did Crimea. | ||
| If he wasn't stopped in Crimea, he does Ukraine. | ||
| If he's not stopped in Ukraine, he's going to go for it. | ||
| It's not like Hungary is in South America. | ||
| It borders Ukraine. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| And if Orbán is worried about it, then we're in real trouble there. | ||
| So, Alex interviews a guy named Patrick Lancaster, who's a journalist on the scene in Donbass. | ||
| And, yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I got some sketchy vibes. | ||
| I don't know a ton about him, but I looked into him a little bit, and some people have some very serious distrust of his motives and history. | ||
| Yeah, that doesn't sound wrong. | ||
| And one of the things that I thought was a particular red flag is he claims to be a crowdfunded journalist. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| But he makes $15 a month on Patreon or something like that. | ||
| That's a good crowd. | ||
| I don't know exactly where this crowdfunding is. | ||
| I looked at some other of his pages that he has up. | ||
| He has almost no support. | ||
| I have some misgivings about it. | ||
| Just because you have one rich backer and a bunch of very $1 givers does not mean it's not a crowd. | ||
| It's a crowd in some sense. | ||
| But yeah, he doesn't really actually say anything that adds to any real conversation. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| But Alex ends things off with a bit of an assessment. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| And we'll see how this all... | ||
| Oh, God, no. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And now you've got Klaus Schwab. | ||
| We have the clip. | ||
| I want to go to calls. | ||
| I want to play Klaus Schwab. | ||
| It's a short clip. | ||
| Last year. | ||
| Saying this cyber attack is what is coming. | ||
| It will make the COVID-19 look like nothing in comparison. | ||
| Power will be out. | ||
| And then everything they're doing is around that, and now they're saying the Russians are going to cut our power. | ||
| So Biden's in clips saying, oh, last week, this week, today, we're not going to fight back against the Russians to get them to invade. | ||
| And like I said, I think the Russians have been led into a trap. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah, so now the Russians have been led into a trap. | ||
| Biden played possum, I guess, and said we're not going to attack in order to get Russia to attack. | ||
| So I guess maybe the whole thing that he was selling about it being a fake invasion was just him talking shit. | ||
| That's abusive. | ||
| You know, we go back to... | ||
| I've said it many times that this is abusive. | ||
| You've said it, that this is abusive. | ||
| This is so fucking abusive. | ||
| I'm furious that this is allowed to occur even in one man. | ||
| Even if he wasn't on the air, I'm abused by the idea of somebody saying all of this to me. | ||
| You would choose not to be around this person. | ||
| I would be able to leave, yes. | ||
| Yeah, it's nuts. | ||
| I mean, like, this makes no sense when, like, included with the totality of his coverage over the course of the week, let alone the day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it also doesn't, like, obviously he plays that clip of Klaus Schwab and he's just saying that, like, it's something to be concerned about. | ||
| And that if there were widespread cyber attacks, it could be something that would be more damaging societally and more disruptive than the COVID lockdowns. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, they could shut down a massive chunk of the power grid. | ||
| And then we're all fucked. | ||
| And leave alone Russia doing it. | ||
| There's a lot of actors that could be. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| There's a lot of potential vulnerabilities. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And Alex interprets that as like, ha-ha, he's threatening to do this. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| That's how Alex's brain operates. | ||
| It's stupid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Been over that a hundred times. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Leaving that aside, like I mentioned earlier, you don't need a lured-in invasion of Ukraine to be like, hey, we gotta be worried Russia might have a cyberattack plan of some sort. | ||
| That is a completely unnecessary middle step along the way. | ||
| It makes no sense for the larger storyline. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| It's just Alex trying to find ways to rationalize, like, how am I going to move forward with this? | ||
| It has to be anything other than the guy I said was the most honest guy in the world lied to me and then started a war that only he wants. | ||
| It cannot be that the guy I say is the truth teller is lying and is not even a conquester or anything like that, just a plain old mass murderer. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| He's a criminal. | ||
| He's not even a powerful leader. | ||
| And let's not forget this. | ||
| The person who fell for that lie was Alex. | ||
| You got it. | ||
| And Alex sold it to his audience as truth. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So... | ||
| And he just doesn't, you know... | ||
| You don't want to recognize that. | ||
| You never want to. | ||
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Ugh. | |
| It is so much just like, you know, he lied to you. | ||
| You know that. | ||
| Don't you feel offended by that a little bit? | ||
| I would feel offended if the guy that I think is honest was lying to me the whole time. | ||
| And I know that Steve has told him that Putin listens to him forwards. | ||
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He doesn't. | |
| He doesn't give a fuck about you and he lied about you. | ||
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Nope. | |
| He doesn't know who you are. | ||
| Never heard of you. | ||
| And he lied to you. | ||
| Does not care. | ||
| He lied to you in such a way to make you lie to your audience. | ||
| Nah, you were manipulated by somebody who absolutely does not care about you. | ||
| Just like you've been manipulated by Trump. | ||
| Just like you've been manipulated by Steve. | ||
| You're just a fucking moron. | ||
| That's what Alex is. | ||
| He's a mark. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And we can see the kind of stakes that he's willing to be a mark about. | ||
| And then after the fact, try and rationalize it with these bizarre, stupid conspiracies that he's making up. | ||
| Which is wild, because even Trump was like, Trump was like, hey, I love the move of overthrowing Ukraine. | ||
| It wasn't like, oh, there's an excuse for why Putin, my buddy, is overthrowing Ukraine. | ||
| He's just like, fuck yeah, kill him. | ||
| I just saw the headlines about that. | ||
| I thought he was just saying that in 2014 it was genius what he did. | ||
| I didn't read the full thing, so I'm not sure. | ||
| But I also think, from what I understand, he was also like, this wouldn't happen under my watch. | ||
| Yeah, because it's also insane. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Cool. | |
| It's also got to be insane. | ||
| Enjoy. | ||
| Yeah, I'm interested to see particularly what's gonna happen when Alex sees how Tucker responds. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because that, I think, might have some kind of... | ||
| It does feel like literally everybody's waiting for Tucker to tell them how to feel. | ||
| If Tucker is like... | ||
| Fuck this. | ||
| Putin's right. | ||
| I think Alex will follow suit. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I think so many people will fall in line once the Fox News line is given to them. | ||
| I feel like I have no faith that Alex is going to have his own actual take. | ||
| Based on this waffly nonsense, I just don't. | ||
| I don't think he has any... | ||
| He's not standing on solid ground. | ||
| And the kind of people that he could bring in to give him solid ground would be Steve, and he's no good. | ||
| He's past his expiration date. | ||
| You have Joel Skousen, and he's not going to play ball. | ||
| No, he hates Putin. | ||
| I don't know what other kind of legitimate geopolitical experts he has in the bullpen. | ||
| Like, Roger's no good. | ||
| He just wants money. | ||
| Yeah, you can't have a legitimate political expert. | ||
| It's not a possibility, because this is so cut and dry. | ||
| Hmm. | ||
| Steve would help him. | ||
| Steve would help him, but you can't have Steve. | ||
| Because Steve would go rogue. | ||
| You don't know what Steve is going to help him with. | ||
| Steve cannot be a helper. | ||
| Steve's going to get you into the Hague. | ||
| Steve's going to get you into trouble. | ||
| Steve's going to be like, war crimes are fun, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The temperature might be too high for Steve. | ||
| Yeah, you can't have Steve anywhere near this shit. | ||
| That's too bad, because those swings... | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| You can't. | ||
| You can't. | ||
| Because I'm imagining having fun with it, and I can't do that. | ||
| That's not cool. | ||
| Unfortunately, in these circumstances, it's disrespectful to do a Steve riff. | ||
| Well, we'll be back, Jordan. | ||
| Hopefully. | ||
| Hopefully. | ||
| We will be back, but... | ||
| Hopefully. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I don't know how to finish the sentence. | ||
| Dot, dot, dot. | ||
| Until then, we have a website. | ||
| We do have a website. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Yep, we're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight, and I go to bed Jordan. | ||
| Yeah, we'll be back. | ||
| I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark, I'm Dr. Marbles. | ||
| I forgot to play this Out of Context drop at the beginning of the show, and I think it would have been really funny at the beginning of the show, so I'm just going to play it now. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| In fact, one of the crew pointed out that I should call somebody out, and I'll do it at the start of the next segment. | ||
| And that's Drake. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| That's right. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| That was a good note to end on, buddy. | ||
| That's the way to do it. | ||
| Drake, I'm calling you out. | ||
| Drake, it's time! | ||
| And now here comes the sex robot. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |