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Feb. 16, 2022 - Knowledge Fight
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#649: February 14, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan enjoy the very special Valentine's Day edition of The Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex pushes a wild new medical conspiracy, celebrates a victory with Roger Stone, and interviews one of the more unhinged doctors ever on the program. Citations

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alex jones
10:38
d
dan friesen
37:41
j
jordan holmes
18:58
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dr ben marble
04:18
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roger stone
02:00
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steve quayle
00:02
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com.
It's time to pray.
roger stone
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
roger stone
Dan and Jordan, knowledge fight.
alex jones
I need, I need money.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in, Andy in.
roger stone
Stop it.
alex jones
Andy in, Andy in Kansas.
Andy in, Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your room.
roger stone
Knowledge Fight.
dan friesen
KnowledgeFight.com I love
you.
You mentioned, I think, you said you had big sweatpants.
jordan holmes
Oh, huge.
dan friesen
I got too big a sweatpants.
jordan holmes
That's the right way to go.
dan friesen
I think it's better than the alternative, obviously.
jordan holmes
Sure, well, yeah.
dan friesen
But these things are a little baggier than I had anticipated.
I went with an extra large because I'm a fairly bigger guy.
You know, I figured, you know, let's play it safe.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
Quite big!
jordan holmes
Relatively her suit.
You don't want your bikini line to show.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That is a consideration with sweatpants.
jordan holmes
With sweatpants, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, I was pretty surprised.
It made me feel actually pretty good.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm telling you, man.
Wait until you break them in.
After they're two years old, oh, that's the shit.
You gotta get old sweatpants.
That's the rule.
dan friesen
Alright, I'm working on it.
I'm working on distressing these sweatpants.
jordan holmes
Get them in there, absolutely.
dan friesen
Couldn't get any pre-distressed sweatpants.
jordan holmes
Watch them a few times in a row.
dan friesen
The year of a sweatpants!
Alright, Jordan, what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot is for last night.
For Valentine's Day, or actually yesterday, during the day, I baked my partner some cupcakes.
dan friesen
Nice.
jordan holmes
I was thinking of what is the last thing that she would possibly expect me to do.
dan friesen
Get flowers on time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
That and bake cupcakes.
And my dad tried to make fun of me for it, and it's like, man...
All of that shit is in the past.
My favorite show is a feat British people making bread.
You're not going to get me with, oh, baking cupcakes is effeminate.
Get out of here.
Come on, man.
dan friesen
What sort of cupcakes did you make?
Just like a vanilla?
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
These strawberry chunk ones.
Also, secret that I didn't know until now.
dan friesen
Oat milk.
jordan holmes
Oat milk.
unidentified
Whoa.
jordan holmes
Secret.
Get rid of your cup of water.
Get rid of your 2%.
Oat milk is the way to go.
dan friesen
Okay.
I can definitely see that.
I have shifted over to mostly an oat milk for, like, cereal and stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I think it's a solid milk replacement.
jordan holmes
So fluffy.
dan friesen
That's good to know.
You can just put it in that recipe.
jordan holmes
It's a smart move.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, you're mentioning Valentine's Day, and that's kind of appropriate, because today we're going over the Valentine's Day episode of Alex Jones, his broadcast, the February 14th.
2022 episode of his show.
Love is in the air.
jordan holmes
I don't know if that's true.
Man, I really wish he did have a themed Valentine's Day.
What theme would Alex Jones' Valentine's Day episode be?
dan friesen
I'd like to talk about my love of fighting the New World Order.
That'd be it.
jordan holmes
Just a bunch of weird Valentine's Day to violence.
dan friesen
New World Order, how I love to hate you.
unidentified
Let me count the ways.
dan friesen
Something like that.
Yeah, there's not a whole lot of actual Valentine's Day content, but we'll get into what is there in a second.
But first, we've got to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Shannie Lee.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Shannie!
dan friesen
Next, Toasty Chonkers, Michael Keaton, and A Kitten with Mittens from Rogers Park.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
Thank you.
dan friesen
This one's gonna be tough.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Pac-Misters-Z-Tresqua.
I'm sure you know who you are.
There's too many Zs in that word, but you're a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, the Rogan-Tucker-Jones love triangle is better than Twilight.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Who do you think is Jacob and who's Edward?
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, obviously Alex is the werewolf.
And he's whinier.
dan friesen
So he's Jacob, right?
Is that Edward?
I don't know which is which.
jordan holmes
Who gives a shit which is which?
dan friesen
Okay, so he's the werewolf.
Alex is the werewolf.
jordan holmes
Yeah, why are we talking about names?
We got werewolf, we got vampire, and we got some lady in between for no reason.
Okay, so obviously Tucker Carlson's vampire.
So Jones is werewolf, Carlson's vampire, and that makes Rogan a teenage girl.
Falling in love with an ancient beast.
dan friesen
I could see that, because Rogan is kind of caught in the middle.
jordan holmes
He is!
dan friesen
Both sides would be vying for his attention.
jordan holmes
They want his, yeah.
His effervescent life force.
dan friesen
I think we solved it.
jordan holmes
I think we have.
dan friesen
So we also got a technocrat, Jordan, in the mix.
So hello, and thank you to Ulf Ingard.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
I have risen above my enemies.
I might quit tomorrow, actually.
I'm just going to take a little break, you know.
A little bricky for me.
And then we're going to come back and I'm going to start the show over.
But I'm the devil!
I've got to be taken off the air!
Fuck you!
Fuck you!
I've got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your New World Order and fuck the horse you rode in on and all your shit!
Maybe today should be my last broadcast.
Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.
Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and you never see me again.
That's really what I want to do.
I never want to come back here again.
I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air.
I'll be better tomorrow.
dan friesen
No time for breakdowns today because it's Valentine's Day.
jordan holmes
It's time for love.
dan friesen
Yes.
This is the love of the game, love of the craft.
So here's an out-of-context drop from today's show.
alex jones
It's on like Donkey Kong.
dan friesen
Hell yeah.
jordan holmes
Alright, well, if we're talking Valentine's Day...
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
We need to shift that expression.
jordan holmes
What?
It's on like Donkey Kong?
dan friesen
It needs to be on like Diddy Kong.
jordan holmes
Like Diddy Kong.
dan friesen
Or Dixie Kong.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Which one flies?
dan friesen
Dixie Kong, right?
She has the helicopter.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She's the knuckles of...
dan friesen
Funky Kong is actually the one that flies because he has airplanes.
jordan holmes
Right, that's true.
dan friesen
And is an arms dealer.
jordan holmes
Alright.
How about the...
What are the Crocs called?
dan friesen
Which ones?
jordan holmes
There's a bunch.
dan friesen
King K. Rool is the leader of them.
jordan holmes
See, now it's on like King K. Rool is the way to go.
dan friesen
It doesn't rhyme, though.
jordan holmes
There is that problem.
dan friesen
It doesn't sound as good.
jordan holmes
There is a weakness there.
dan friesen
So we're going to start off here, where Alex is beginning the show, and we get into a particularly distasteful narrative that runs throughout this show.
There is a through line that Alex is going to have about the vaccine causing HIV.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And we'll deal with this as it goes, but it stinks.
alex jones
All right.
All the news ties together.
All the major problems we face are run by the same people.
Our weakness is what allows them to win.
But we know exactly what's happening in Eastern Europe on the borders of Russia.
unidentified
Do we?
alex jones
In Central Europe.
We know exactly what is going on with Spygate that's massively broke.
We know exactly what's going on with the deadly shots that we've now confirmed with mainline studies and scientists that basically erase your immune system and give you VAIDS.
jordan holmes
VAIDS.
alex jones
Vaccine-acquired autoimmune deficiency disorder.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
alex jones
And they're now announcing massive, unprecedented HIV cases worldwide.
dan friesen
So, I think that clip does a good job of allowing Alex to become a parody of himself.
All the news ties together, and there's just this one solitary story in the world.
Everything that's happening is connected, and each thing, regardless of where it's happening and who's involved, is an attack by the globalists who are willing to destroy the world because they are so afraid of the truth that Alex and his weirdo friends are bringing.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
It's an embarrassingly childish level of analysis.
And it's really the mark of someone who's projecting their narcissism onto the audience, what I would describe as a dangerous way.
Partially because of how it gives the audience permission to deal with information in their own lives this same way.
He's modeling that behavior as an appropriate thing to do.
Maybe it's not COVID and Ukraine all being connected, but you can see how Alex's behavior is really just kind of a grandiose version of a person who thinks they got a parking ticket, and that's part of a larger conspiracy against them.
Everything's connected.
jordan holmes
I mean, my car did get towed the night after I went to a stand-up comedy show when I was thinking, Maybe I want to do stand-up again.
And then it got towed.
Obviously, that was part of a deeper conspiracy by the other comedians inside the Chicago comedy scene to keep me from getting back on stage.
dan friesen
Did they read?
Did they read your mind?
unidentified
Uh, yeah.
dan friesen
Actually, no, because you texted me about thinking about getting back into comedy, so I could have told them.
jordan holmes
That's true.
That is true.
You are the linchpin to the whole conspiracy.
dan friesen
So as for Alex's offensive AIDS comments, I think he's just referring to an op-ed in The Guardian that came out last week about how HIV infects more heterosexual people than gay and bisexual men for the first time ever.
These numbers were were specific just to England, but the reason for this isn't because HIV is now more dangerous for straight people.
It's because there's a large number of gay and bisexual men who take PrEP, which wasn't an option in the past.
And so HIV rates have gone down drastically.
The article itself even points this out.
Quote, there may be some small increases in HIV numbers this year and possibly last year within the pandemic, but if there are, it's...
Isn't because the vaccine is giving it to people.
It's because there's a disruption of normal medical services that the pandemic has caused.
You could see a slight increase in a lot of conditions as a side effect of that.
And I'm guessing that saliva thing is just something Alex is making up.
jordan holmes
I would assume so.
dan friesen
I don't know where that's coming from.
jordan holmes
Well, from his glands.
dan friesen
Well, the saliva, yes.
Well, he thought about the enchiladas, which we know he loves.
jordan holmes
And that'll get him going.
dan friesen
So Alex, he called this, this whole thing about vaccines giving you HIV.
jordan holmes
Yes, he did call that, I recall.
dan friesen
He called it early.
alex jones
We've now figured out exactly what they did.
We were able to put the pieces together two years ago and surmise it.
Those whole reports are posted at Bandot Video in the Alex Jones predictions section.
Again, going back to January, February, March, April of 2020.
And we had a lot of top scientists in the discovery of HIV saying it, and the guy that wrote the U.S. Biological Weapons Laws and World Laws saying it.
And so we knew it had a good idea, but now it's confirmed.
It gives you a new type of autoimmune deficiency disorder that's much worse and much quicker.
Usually HIV can stay dormant once it becomes AIDS for 5-10 years.
This doesn't do it.
It takes six months, a year, two years, depending on how strong your immune system is before it eats through all of your white blood cells.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
How would you know?
alex jones
They're now confirming that there are unprecedented numbers of people with AIDS-like conditions now, and it's almost completely the vaccinated.
And Pfizer and Merck and all of them are coming out.
Wait for it.
With an M. NRA HIV vaccine.
Which, again, will only mitigate the infection.
They've got to keep giving it to you, and then it'll end up killing you in the end as well.
dan friesen
So suffice it to say, just about everything in that clip is made up or bullshit.
jordan holmes
That was bananas.
dan friesen
That said, scientists are working on an mRNA HIV vaccine, but that's not really news.
Moderna was working on a promising candidate over a year ago, and Alex is just mentioning it now because there was some news that it's entering the Phase 1 human trials.
jordan holmes
I mean, after we've seen the efficacy of the mRNA COVID vaccine...
I wouldn't be surprised if there's literally an mRNA vaccine being developed for everything as we speak.
dan friesen
The potential applications are pretty high.
jordan holmes
Yeah, so why wouldn't they be?
dan friesen
Yeah, and because time and dormancy is a subject that Alex is talking about vis-a-vis this vaccine, HIV, I can be fairly certain that what happened here is that Alex saw a headline about how researchers identified a new variant of HIV in the Netherlands, and he's making up a scary story about it from his imagination.
This new variant is seen to develop into AIDS quicker than other variants, but also the existing treatments appear to be equally effective against it.
Honestly, it seems like even more of a reason to work on that mRNA vaccine.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's tough to tell how much of this is Alex just pulling things from his imagination and how much of it he's taking from sites like Natural News, which have been pushing the Vades idea.
It's not based on any science or studies or papers, though.
It's just rooted in comments made by members of the anti-vex lunatic group, America's Frontline Doctors.
This is, in case you've forgotten, the group that included Stella Emanuel, and also they had a website where you could pay a doctor to prescribe you ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine.
Also, that website that they did that through was...
Hey!
jordan holmes
We got bingo!
unidentified
Cool.
dan friesen
So I did like that reminder, though, that Alex has a section on his website for predictions that he's gotten right.
jordan holmes
I can't believe that true.
dan friesen
Yeah, so now it's a good time to check in on what's on that page.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Also, I can't imagine, like, we've gotten a few things that have been, like, oh, weirdly similar.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Things we were joking about accidentally maybe seeming fairly accurate.
I can't imagine what kind of dork I would have to be to be like, check out the Dan Friesen prediction section of the website.
jordan holmes
I mean, you're the one who's going to have to edit it.
I don't remember what you've predicted at any given point in time.
dan friesen
And nor do I. So here's what we got on Alex's.
Quote, Alex Jones told you everything about chemtrails in 2009.
jordan holmes
We're already on strike one.
dan friesen
I'm not sure how correct that prediction is on his part.
That's weird.
Here's another one.
Quote, I didn't know that one became true.
jordan holmes
Is that a prediction?
I don't know.
Even his prediction is just, we discussed something.
dan friesen
We chatted about mind control.
jordan holmes
I mean, I guess if you predicted that you were going to chat with him about that, then...
Well, sure enough.
dan friesen
That's a strong prediction.
jordan holmes
That's a good prediction.
dan friesen
This list of predictions is completely fucked.
One of them is, quote, fake alien invasion, false flag exposed in 2008.
Have we experienced a fake alien invasion false flag?
Because I feel like that would need to happen for Alex to claim that he got the prediction right.
jordan holmes
You would need to experience that, yes.
But have you considered that it did, and you just don't know about it?
dan friesen
Or he made the prediction, and because of the prediction being made, it didn't happen.
jordan holmes
Well, it made sure that it got stopped.
dan friesen
How fun.
jordan holmes
Wear the tip of the spear, buddy.
dan friesen
Some of these are just too vague to even really know what they mean, but then there's things like, he's only gotten right if you accept Alex as the sole source about whether or not he's...
jordan holmes
That's smart.
dan friesen
For instance, quote, That is cheating.
That is very much cheating.
jordan holmes
That's brutal.
dan friesen
And then there's ones that aren't true at all.
Quote, That's it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This page is full of shit but mysteriously absent are thousands of predictions that Alex has made that were very specific and he got entirely wrong.
Just this week, he predicted a car bomb false flag at the Ottawa convoy on Sunday morning.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
That was incorrect.
I can't count the number of times he's predicted an imminent nuking of a U.S. city off in Chicago, and yet here I sit in an unnuked city.
This page is an embarrassing attempt to launder Alex's reputation and history, and I would probably get more into exactly what, you know, stuff he's said, but we've done 650 episodes about it already.
jordan holmes
See, now that's the type of page that we would do, which is an obsessive chronicling of literally every single prediction we've ever made, along with whether or not it turned out the way that we predicted it.
Sure, our percentage would be incredibly low, but that's how accurate we are.
We want to make sure you know, don't trust our predictions.
dan friesen
There was a part of me that wanted to like, ha ha, I'm going to go through all of Alex's predictions.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
unidentified
And I just.
dan friesen
I can't.
jordan holmes
Nope.
We do not have a team of 300 researchers with the next two weeks on their hands.
dan friesen
No, but I do think it might be fun to create an alternate page of all of these things that he's predicted that have not come true.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would be fun.
dan friesen
Dialects with guns, for instance.
jordan holmes
Top of the list.
dan friesen
Sure.
So, Alex shifts over from this medical narrative into talking about Ukraine.
Sure.
jordan holmes
I bet he has a lot of insight that we need right now.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
alex jones
Everything I say, you can look up.
And it's open to interpretation, but you can look up anything I say.
When I say George Soros overthrew Ukraine for the globalists...
jordan holmes
That's true of anything anyone says.
alex jones
...eight years ago, and bragged...
I played the clip many times.
You can just put it on screen if you want, guys.
Just the article or the B-roll.
And bragged, well, yes, I overthrew Ukraine with $5 billion.
dan friesen
Okay, so Alex is referring to a 2014 interview that George Soros did with Fareed Zakaria, and to quote Alex, you can look it up, and you'll find that he doesn't brag about overthrowing Ukraine.
He's worried about Putin's efforts to destabilize Ukraine, and here's the exchange that Alex is mischaracterizing.
Zakaria asks, quote, First on Ukraine, one of the things that many people recognized about you was that you, during the revolutions of 1989, funded a lot of dissident activities, civil society groups in Eastern Europe and Poland and the Czech Republic.
Are you doing similar things in Ukraine?
Soros replies, quote, Well, I set up a foundation in Ukraine before Ukraine became independent of Russia, and the foundation has been functioning ever since and played an important part in events now.
The term dissident activities here refers to activities that are opposing an authoritarian government.
Things like free press organizations.
Soros is just saying that the foundation he set up in Ukraine has had an impact on the transition from being under Soviet rule to the present day where it's an independent country.
It's not a matter of interpretation.
Alex is just lying about this clip and Soros' comments.
It's just dog shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's about right.
I'm sorry.
Could you read that one more time?
I heard you say...
unidentified
I am so proud of taking over Ukraine.
jordan holmes
But I'm thinking back on it, and I don't think that's what it sounded like.
dan friesen
I overthrew Ukraine.
jordan holmes
There we go.
Finally!
dan friesen
For a billion dollars.
jordan holmes
I was having a real gaslighting moment there until you did that.
Now I remember.
dan friesen
Okay, cool.
You can't do anything about it.
jordan holmes
And then I assume Alex summoned Captain Planet, and we moved on from there.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
I don't think Alex would be into Captain Planet.
jordan holmes
I very much doubt it.
I think he would be into the rat monsters.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
So, look, Alex has got some interesting feelings about the situation in Ukraine and Russia.
And I think that his analysis is stupid, and I don't really care too much about it, but there's something underlying some of these comments that I found really weird.
alex jones
And look, here's the president.
He did this two weeks ago.
He did it again.
Zelensky invites Biden to visit Ukraine in coming days and push back against imminent invasion fears.
Says there is not an imminent invasion fear.
Why are you saying this?
Because it's poking the Russians over and over again while they accelerate the attacks on Russian-controlled areas in the east of Ukraine.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
alex jones
Is the proxy war going into a hybrid war, going into a full war, into a regional war, into a world war.
dan friesen
Right, so I think you responded to exactly the part that I felt a little bit strange about.
Is it just fine that there are Russian-controlled portions of another sovereign country?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm confused as to what we're doing here.
dan friesen
So Alex is recognizing that there are borders that have been encroached by another country.
Right, right.
That's weird!
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
He says stuff like that multiple times on this episode.
Like, it's just normal.
And I don't think...
I don't think he would do that if it was a different country than Russia.
jordan holmes
Look, just because the UK has, I don't know, anywhere between 10 and 15 colonies in the United States.
I mean, oh shit, I already wrote the bit.
Never mind, blew it!
dan friesen
What if Mexico was occupying New Mexico?
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Just hanging out there.
Well, you know, what are you going to do?
jordan holmes
We're going to start a world war over this?
Is it worth it?
Is it worth it?
dan friesen
Yeah, Canada takes Michigan.
Or whatever.
Right.
It's not.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
This is the whole issue.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
This is the problem.
unidentified
Is that Russia is occupying part of Ukraine.
jordan holmes
You get the fundamental problem here.
I feel like you're just on the Russians team.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's what you're saying.
dan friesen
And so, like, I mean, here's another clip of him just casually throwing away that, like, hey, Russia has taken part of Ukraine.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
The new clench.
That Russia is about to imminently attack and take over Ukraine is a lie.
Russia already took over parts of Ukraine eight years ago.
Seven and a half years ago.
And Russia now says the U.S. and NATO are building up weapons and troops, which NATO says they are, and high-tech weapons.
So that's why this is escalating to a bigger war.
dan friesen
I'm just blown away.
I don't understand.
I don't think that this is consistent with his earlier positions that I've heard him express.
jordan holmes
Just say you want to give Miami to the Cubans.
Just be like, listen, there's enough Cubans in Miami.
They get it now.
Like, okay, is that how it works?
Fine.
I don't know.
dan friesen
Or, I mean, like, just come out with it and say that you believe that Russia has the right to invade neighboring countries if they believe that these are parts of Russia.
And then, I mean, you just extrapolate that out and say you are into the Soviet bloc returning.
jordan holmes
I mean, and then if you're into the Soviet bloc returning, the Soviet bloc was really stoked about trying to be more than how big it was.
So you might as well say that, uh, I think the Politburo should rule the world.
dan friesen
I think we may be slippery sloping it here a little bit, but it's not totally disconnected.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's not really a slippery slope if somebody's stated objectives are what you think the slippery slope...
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
Right, right.
I'm saying that it's a slippery slope to assume that Alex agrees with it that far.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what you're saying.
dan friesen
But it is like...
The kernel of it is kind of the same.
There is a recognition on Alex's part that in 2014, Russia took part of Ukraine.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And that's fine.
jordan holmes
It was.
Well, it wasn't, but now it is.
Is that kind of what he's doing?
Is he kind of doing just like this wave away of like, look, if you wanted to be mad at Russia about taking over Ukraine, you had 2014 and you did nothing about it.
So guess what?
They get it all.
dan friesen
No, because I know that I've heard Alex in the past say that that isn't what happened.
And that Russia, it's like, the Crimea is actually...
It's actually part of Russia.
Oh, great.
I've heard him say stuff like that.
Historically, it's part of Russia.
Most of the people there speak Russian.
The way that he's talking about it now is different than the way he's talked about the situation in the past.
Recognizing that Russia came in and occupied some area.
jordan holmes
Whenever we do this again in a couple of years or less and China has taken Taiwan back, whose side is Alex going to be on?
dan friesen
Hmm.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
I think we know.
jordan holmes
Well, I know, but he hates the Chinese, but he also is against the Taiwanese...
Well, I mean, clearly, if it's we're in a similar situation...
dan friesen
I mean, I think that if it's not Russia, he doesn't think you can invade your neighbors.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's fair.
That's fair.
dan friesen
But that's just because Putin's so Christian, except for Joel Skousen has informed him that that's just a fraud.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But Alex ignores that.
jordan holmes
Well, we're going to move on from that.
dan friesen
Definitely.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this is a strange thought that Alex has.
alex jones
The gullibility and the sheepishness of the public just brought these wolves, though.
It's not your fault they're attacking you, but being naive is what allows this crap to go on, folks.
We've got to stop being naive.
We can beat these people so easily.
We can have such an incredible future together.
We just got to get these satanic forces out of the way.
And then educate everybody about how evil operates so it doesn't come back again.
We can do unlimited things together.
That's what I want for you and your family and your genetics is unlimited potential, unlimited victory.
I want you to have total victory.
You need total victory.
You will have total victory.
But you've got to recognize the evil and say that you reject it.
If you won't admit there's evil, you won't admit there's good.
If you can't see the devil, you can't see God.
dan friesen
The formulation if you can't see the devil, you can't see God is a very bizarre theological stance, but it actually makes total sense in the context of Alex's stupid brain and his oppositional nature.
His stance that he's putting forward here has a troubling underlying premise that must be true for the statement to be true, and that is that the only path to seeing God is to first see the devil.
This implies that the only path to Christianity, as Alex understands it, is through the devil.
You encounter the devil, then you see God in contrast to the devil.
God, in this understanding, is not something that Alex really appreciates on its own.
God is really only understood in opposition to the devil.
This actually makes a lot of sense for Alex, because it's essentially how he operates in more human matters, too.
Everything is defined solely by opposition, which is to say that something is defined as good because it is against the thing Alex has decided is bad.
jordan holmes
So this we can put into, we can put this in another, in the column of things that would suggest Alex himself as a Satan worshipper, because Satan would obviously assume God only exists in relation to himself.
unidentified
Hmm.
jordan holmes
So, I'm gonna go ahead and say, yet again, Alex is a Satanist.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, think about it.
Like, his politics only really are rooted out of...
jordan holmes
Fear and pain.
dan friesen
Well, discovering this nonsense about the globalists.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The evil, and then he recognizes the good in opposition to the evil.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That is in the world.
jordan holmes
It only exists because it has to stop the evil.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Of which we all are.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Simultaneously.
dan friesen
It's really strange, but it's kind of...
I mean, it makes sense.
jordan holmes
Well, if you're a narcissistic psychopath, yes.
dan friesen
Yeah, but it's also stupid.
jordan holmes
Yes!
Which is how most narcissistic psychopaths are.
dan friesen
You're not wrong.
So I'm not going to get too much further into the vaccine HIV thing because it's nonsense.
Yeah.
And there's not really a whole lot to even break down.
So I'm just going to skip ahead to where Alex does a really long Dracula impression about George Soros.
jordan holmes
Oh, I love it.
alex jones
Oh, they found the clip.
Add that in post.
We're live right now.
My earlier breakdown of how the globalists and Soros are behind the war in Ukraine?
World War IV.
War with Russia.
Brought to you by George Soros.
I want at the front of that interview, because you guys found it.
That's great.
I'm glad you did.
Not their fault.
I sprung it on during the live show.
Put that on the front of that when we post Vandau videos.
They can see him brag about, oh, I overthrew Ukraine.
unidentified
I mean, blah, blah, come Dracula.
alex jones
It's what we do.
We get your children.
So I'm at Alison Crowley Rituals.
unidentified
What do we do?
alex jones
The Carpathian Mountains are so beautiful.
jordan holmes
What is happening?
alex jones
The children of the night, they make such beautiful music.
Prince Charles is who I serve.
unidentified
He is doing quite good to everyone right now.
alex jones
I am George Soros.
dan friesen
It's really a good sign for your impression or whatever when you have to say, I am blank in the middle of it.
jordan holmes
That, like, started out as Dracula and then slowly tilted towards Yogi.
Like, all of a sudden I was like, Hey, Redfield!
We gotta get out there!
We gotta take down Ukraine!
dan friesen
Prince Charles, we gotta get a picnic basket.
I didn't know that Soros was working for Prince Charles.
That seems like news.
jordan holmes
That was a stretch.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think Alex was thinking of Prince Philip.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But he's also dead.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Well, there's that.
Also, I don't think Soros needs to work for royalty anymore.
dan friesen
Actually, hold on.
I have to take a step back.
I think it's a reference to how Alex thinks that Prince Charles is descended from Dracula.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right!
Transylvania.
dan friesen
So that's probably what that was.
jordan holmes
Man, it's hard to remember sometimes whenever you think British royalty is somehow Dracula.
dan friesen
There's a lot of threads that you need to sort of keep in line.
jordan holmes
A lot going on.
dan friesen
So, speaking of things that are in line, we're in line for another appearance from Roger Stone.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Seems to be coming around a lot lately.
jordan holmes
Really needs money.
dan friesen
But this time, it's not just for money.
It's for a victory lap.
alex jones
So, here to decipher all this with us is Roger Stone, and also, not to a victory lap, but a, we came up for air lap.
Judge Napolitano, censured, in trouble, never really brought back to Fox like he was.
When four years ago in 2017, he came out and said Trump was being spied on and seconded at us.
He was never really brought back after that.
He was marked for destruction.
And so let's talk about our wounded on the battlefield here.
We've got that compilation coming up at the end of this hour.
So I've been through hell.
Roger's been through hell.
He's been through hell.
We're not victims.
We're warriors.
We're thanking you, battle-scarred and punished.
For keeping us in the game so we're on air to be vindicated to now stop the fourth leg of the Russia hoax, war with Russia.
Roger, that's my breakdown.
What do you have to say to that?
roger stone
Well, Alex, it's great to be back with you.
dan friesen
Well said.
So Alex and Roger are doing a victory lap because they're just parroting the right-wing media's erroneous claims about this new filing from Special Counsel John Durham regarding accusations that Michael Sussman, a cybersecurity lawyer, had lied to the FBI in an interview about the Trump campaign's potential Russian ties.
it's fairly complicated but it's all a bunch of nonsense the durham filing wasn't reporting any new information and the coverage of it in right-wing media has been totally inaccurate to create this perception uh that it proves that hillary was spying on trump's campaign it doesn't prove any Yeah.
Yeah.
Hey, they were right all along.
Everything.
unidentified
They're vindicated.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
unidentified
Coming up for air lap.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
I really don't know what a coming up for air lap is.
I mean, I've watched some professional swimming, Olympic swimming, you know, in the last Olympics, and they were swimming, like Katie Ledecky, incredible.
Not one lap did she just stay the whole way up, just like, whoa!
Tough race, guys, am I right?
50 meters?
That's hard to do.
Let's just do a quick take-a-breather lap.
dan friesen
The thing here is that Alex is...
He always refers to this thing where the globalists are holding you underwater and then you get away and you get a breath and you gotta get a big breath in order to sustain yourself the next time you get pulled under.
jordan holmes
Swirling rules, yes.
dan friesen
Yeah, and so that's what he's talking about.
But yeah, the way he's framing it doesn't make sense.
jordan holmes
It doesn't work.
dan friesen
So Roger has an interesting thought that actually I was like, wow, you're right.
That is nuts.
roger stone
Now...
I'm the only person you know who was actually investigated during Watergate and also investigated during Russiagate.
I went at age 19 before the Watergate grand jury.
Then, as now, I did nothing wrong.
dan friesen
That is wild to remember.
Yeah, you are the only person who's mixed up in Watergate and the Russia investigation.
jordan holmes
You really are the fucking Forrest Gump of evil.
dan friesen
But you know what?
You can add a couple other things to that list, like the Brooks Brothers riot in the 2000 election and the Stop the Steal efforts in the 2016 and 2020 elections, the latter of which was connected to the events of January 6th.
I think Roger's selling himself short.
jordan holmes
All of his lobbying for evil governments over the years.
I mean, this is a man who, if you have murdered more than 100,000 people, you know Roger Stone intimately.
dan friesen
He's the connecting thread through a lot more than just Watergate and the Russia investigation.
There's a ton of these things.
jordan holmes
Man, that's such a weird...
Man, sometimes you see those pathways through history and you just see some asshole like Roger Stone pop up in each picture and you're like, There need to be more characters in reality.
I'm sick of this.
dan friesen
How is it possible?
jordan holmes
Somebody stop him!
How does nobody...
It's like when you see the Joker get out of Arkham Asylum again, and you're like, Jesus Christ!
Put it somewhere darker!
dan friesen
Sure, I mean, in that case, it's like it's a narrative convenience.
jordan holmes
Right!
dan friesen
Reality shouldn't require that.
jordan holmes
It shouldn't require that!
dan friesen
Nope.
So, Roger has some stuff to say about this Durham filing, and it's not really accurate.
roger stone
This is the greatest single political scandal in American history.
This is the greatest single abuse of power that we have ever seen.
Let's define it, if we may.
Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton with the approval of Vice President Joe Biden, who was in the room when this was all approved.
We're involved in the use of the full authority of the United States government and the extraordinary capability of our intelligence agencies to spy on and thus launch an investigation to remove a duly elected president of the United States, Donald Trump.
alex jones
That is treason.
That is treason against the people, against the republic.
That's about as big a crime as you can commit.
dan friesen
So none of that's proven in the Durham filing.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
This is a bit complicated, so I'm just going to read this from a New York Times article that explains the information in the filing in a concise manner.
Quote, In February 2017, Mr. Sussman told the CIA about odd internet data suggesting that someone using a Russian-made smartphone may have been connecting to networks at Trump Tower and the White House, among other places.
Mr. Sussman had obtained the information from a client, a technology executive named Rodney Joff.
Another paragraph in the court filing said that Mr. Joff's company, Newstar, had helped maintain internet-related servers for the White House and that he and his associates, quote, exploited this arrangement by mining certain records to gather derogatory information about Mr. Trump.
There are a couple of very important clarifications that are missed by the right-wing reporting on this filing.
The first is that there wasn't spying on Trump in the White House, and that's not even what this is referring to.
The DNS logs from the White House that are used in the analysis that's being discussed were from the Obama administration.
After the Russian hacking happened, researchers began an investigation into possible malware in the White House.
In particular, Russian-made smartphone devices, Yoda phones, connecting to networks.
As they were researching this matter, they consulted data from Newstar to attempt to find other potential breaches of security in terms of Yota phones connecting to networks, and in the process they found indications that, quote, there had been communications with Yota servers in Russia coming from networks in the White House, Trump Tower, and Mr. Trump's Central Park West apartment building.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
This was where the information came from.
Not from any spying on Trump.
It was from researching potentially compromised networks in the wake of a hack.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
Anyway, the point is that Roger's just making shit up, which is kind of his bread and butter.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it's way better than saying...
No, no, no.
I was totally convicted for reasonable and logical reasons.
Frankly, I got off light.
The actual shit I did if I told you, boy, you don't even know what treason sounds like, buddy.
You don't even fucking know what treason sounds like.
dan friesen
You thought I found religion this time.
jordan holmes
I'll tell you what treason sounds like.
dan friesen
Imagine what kind of religion I would find if you guys accused me of my real crimes.
jordan holmes
Hey, if I'm ten minutes away from the rope, buddy, my religion's strong.
dan friesen
So you're talking about him lying about his case.
Yeah.
Yeah, that actually comes up in this next book.
jordan holmes
Oh, surprise.
roger stone
We do know that former director of national television Radcliffe says that he turned over 1,000 pages of evidence, which implicate not only John Brennan, but also the former CIA director, but also former FBI director Comey.
In other words, both of them were informed that Trump was being surveilled.
Both of them chose to use the false narrative of Russian collusion to open investigations and to smear the president.
When I tried to say this during my own trial...
I was gagged.
When I tried to prove this with evidence, expert testimony, forensic evidence, I was barred from mounting that defense.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
dan friesen
I don't know what evidence has or hasn't been turned over, and neither does Roger.
So we'll see what happens on that front in terms of the beginning of that clip.
But the way Roger's describing his trial is bullshit.
He was gagged because he was posting threatening shit online about the judge and the case.
And he had every opportunity to call witnesses or any kind of defense he wanted to, but he chose not to.
That was something he specifically chose not to do.
This is a brazen rewriting of history, but it's exactly what you would expect.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's like he's fucking...
I mean, it's weird.
This is a tortured...
Simile, but it is a little bit like he's Kirby from Kirby's Dream Land, where any new thing, he just sucks it inside of him and transforms into new piece of shit about it.
Like, your trial had...
What are you talking...
They wouldn't let me.
They wouldn't let me introduce evidence.
You fuck!
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it's the same thing with Alex and his Sandy Hook cases, like, saying that you did everything, you responded to everything accurately, turned over everything.
jordan holmes
It's a railroad job, and they're just taking us down.
I mean, obviously, I spent a lot of money on lawyers, and then...
dan friesen
Well, I think that their argument really falls apart.
jordan holmes
If you look at it?
dan friesen
Well, yeah.
If, like, they don't present themselves as blameless.
And everybody else is screwing them over.
It becomes really too obvious that they're up to no good.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
But it's already too obvious they're up to no good.
dan friesen
Not if they're pure as the blameless snow.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Roger says some more stuff.
And I don't know.
It's a bunch of nonsense.
I don't really care.
So, I'm going to skip ahead to where Alex talks some more about the Durham report.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
We have to wrap our minds around that same excuse to attack the Russians is now being used to start a war.
And that's why this is so pertinent and so important.
It's such a big deal that the left doesn't want the news out right now.
They do not want the news out right now.
That Durham filed from His raid on Hillary's top lawyer, the actual billing her to hire the groups to hack into the servers and do all this, to then use fake dummy info they got to get the national security investigations going.
dan friesen
It's always the top lawyer, isn't it?
jordan holmes
It's just the most prestigious lawyer in the world, obviously.
dan friesen
So Alex isn't really being honest here about the matter of Clinton billings and the actual point of the Durham filing.
It's not actually an issue at all if Michael Sussman had been billing the Clinton campaign for research he was doing.
Plus, the reality is that Sussman worked for Perkins Coie, which was contracted for a flat retainer by the Clinton campaign.
There's no evidence that Sussman himself actually was in contact with the campaign.
That said, the issue that Durham is alleging is that Sussman's representation, Latham and Watkins, shouldn't be allowed to be his legal questions.
Sure.
Yeah.
folks in terms of the Russia investigation.
Yeah.
unidentified
In the course of this filing, he also claims that Sussman lied to the FBI when he said that he didn't have any clients when he met with them and provided information about the Yodafone matters.
dan friesen
But for what it's worth, Sussman's lawyer, they've said...
Right.
So we will see what happens here.
But there may not even be...
jordan holmes
I mean, it would be a little bit...
I would be surprised if a lawyer claimed to have no clients.
dan friesen
Uh, yeah.
jordan holmes
That would be a little surprising, right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Literally not doing anything right now, guys.
I'm not trying to sell you on shit because nobody's hiring.
Anyways, I'll work for you.
dan friesen
So the larger point here is that Alex is just responding to right-wing headlines about this filing and then connecting what he imagines they say to other narratives he's working on.
And it's just completely detached from reality.
So Roger takes off.
Farewell, Roger.
jordan holmes
Off into the Roger Stone Legal Defense Fund.
dan friesen
They did do some other plugging, but we don't need to belabor the point.
We've heard plenty of it in the past.
And Alex comes back from break with the seltry, seltry sound of car horns.
alex jones
That's the sound of freedom worldwide, with Canada prepared to declare martial law to crush the peaceful truckers who don't want to be forcibly injected with an mRNA shot filled with a spike protein of HIV.
jordan holmes
What a beautiful sound, Freedom.
dan friesen
So, so good.
jordan holmes
So beautiful.
dan friesen
So a couple episodes back, we heard Alex interviewing a guy named Jeremy McKenzie about the Ottawa convoy, and we discussed how he sounds a lot like a Nazi.
But I wanted to loop back to this because I've learned some new information about McKenzie.
jordan holmes
He's a Nazi.
dan friesen
It turns out he's the de facto leader of a group called the Plaid Army, who have been described as...
jordan holmes
Nope, nope, bad.
Already, I'm out.
Already bad.
Thank you.
dan friesen
Well, I always...
I hear a name like that, and I'm kind of like, well, you know, the Boss Tones, they had a song called Bad and Plaid.
You know, maybe...
jordan holmes
Nope.
These guys are neo-fascists, and they believe in the creation of a country called Diagolon.
dan friesen
This country would include the Canadian provinces of Alberta, Saskatchewan, the Northern Territories, and the Yukon, but also would extend down and diagonally through the United States.
unidentified
It would also include Alaska, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, the Dakotas, Iowa, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Utah, Colorado, Alabama, Louisiana, Texas, Tennessee, Kentucky, the Carolinas, Georgia, Florida, Mississippi, and Kansas.
jordan holmes
Would it just be the Northeast?
dan friesen
And the West Coast, yeah.
jordan holmes
Yes, okay, gotcha.
dan friesen
In case this needs to be stressed, Alex was endorsing and palling...
Half of the U.S. states should leave the union and form a weird diagonal country across North America.
Well, I mean, let's be honest.
jordan holmes
You're really not going to be able to negotiate I don't appreciate that one.
dan friesen
I don't think so.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, this makes it really troubling that even prior to his appearance with Alex, Mackenzie was arrested for possession of, quote, five restricted firearms, prohibited magazines, body armor, and ammunition.
On top of that, on Monday, 13 people were arrested at the Coats border crossing where there were protests happening.
And in the process, a cache of guns and armor was seized.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
There was a patch on the body armor that was seized that said, Diagolo.
Which might be construed to imply that McKenzie's group may have had at least partial ownership of this weapons cache.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Which is really fucking scary.
jordan holmes
Great, great, great, great, great.
dan friesen
So anyway, in addition to being a pseudo-Nazi, it looks like McKenzie is also an aspiring domestic terrorist who wants to bring about social strife and warfare in order to create a new country that would involve the destruction of the United States.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And he's who Alex wanted to have on as an expert on the convoy.
That is very peaceful and totally cool.
jordan holmes
Right.
I was hoping you were going to say that you discovered he was...
He's an aspiring country star!
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
No, he's a Nazi.
dan friesen
He's a mess.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's not good.
That's not good.
I don't now, and listen, I don't think that the punishment bureaucracy is good.
And I kind of don't even think you should be put in prison for having a bunch of illegal weapons.
But I don't think you should be allowed to have any weapons after that.
Zero weapons after you get caught with a lot of illegal weapons.
dan friesen
I believe that there are, I think part of his parole or whatever does involve, he can't have, at least can't have explosives.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Yeah, but if you're a terrorist with a lot of weapons and they get it, just keep an eye on him.
dan friesen
Yep, definitely.
jordan holmes
Keep an eye on him!
dan friesen
So, look, that was a bad guest.
That was a bad booking on Alex's part.
jordan holmes
Not good.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
I bet the future will make it look like a great booking.
dan friesen
Don't know.
But I would say that this next booking may be worse.
This guy.
Holy shit.
I expected nothing out of this interview.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Because it's just another one of these, like, hydroxychloroquine ivermectin doctors.
Right, right, right.
A guy named Dr. Ben Marble.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
And I think I've heard him on the show before because he made a website called, like, My Free Doctor where he'll prescribe ivermectin for people and stuff.
The very hot industry, apparently, with Alex's friends.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
And so I didn't expect anything.
I got blown away.
This interview is wild.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This guy is...
He's Dr. Marble, but he's lost his fucking marbles.
That's what I would say.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
So here's...
Man.
dr ben marble
The biggest enemy of all globally that's responsible for this, that planned the whole pandemic, if you will, the Great Reset, is the billionaire globalist, the World Economic Forum at Davos.
For example, if I was president, I would drop a bomb on the World Economic Forum at Davos the next time they meet, and the pandemic, this whole thing would end that day.
You know, they're the enemy.
They're the ones, you know, Nazi Klaus Schwab, Dr. Death Fauci, Bill Gates of Hell, George Soros, all those leaders, Marxist Mark Zuckerberg, etc., etc.
They're the ones who have planned this all, this great evil that they've put on the world.
dan friesen
So Alex is really letting this dude talk, which is weird.
He's probably chewing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would assume he's eating.
dan friesen
But also, he wants to bomb the World Economic Forum.
jordan holmes
Sure.
I mean, who among us has not thought, they're all there?
dan friesen
This is a little bit more extreme than some of the language that usually gets thrown around.
He's not saying politically.
jordan holmes
No, no, he's saying...
dan friesen
If I were president, I would bomb the World Economic Forum.
jordan holmes
I don't think it would...
Get the result he thinks it would.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Now, I think it would be satisfying for a very short period of time, but then the problems that would arise from it might be an issue.
dan friesen
I would assume so.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And also, those dorky-ass names that he has for everybody, that's one of the real sort of...
I mean, it's a minor problem, but it's really annoying in terms of the lineage and the legacy of Trump.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The giving people nicknames that are derisive.
jordan holmes
I mean...
dan friesen
He made it really popular on the right.
jordan holmes
I feel like it's the legacy of Nick Cannon's Wildin' Out.
dan friesen
Look, obviously Roast Culture did a number on this, but in the right wing in particular, I think Trump calling people like Little Marco and stuff, I think that...
That's what they're trying to recreate.
The excitement of that.
jordan holmes
Right, but they thought it was funny.
See, the thing that made it funny was that it was Trump doing it, and he is an inherently cartoonish moron.
Right.
dan friesen
Dr. Ben Marble saying Dr. George Soras.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're just an asshole.
You're just an idiot.
And you sound stupid.
You sound like a child.
dan friesen
Marxist Mark Cuck.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's what's funny about Trump is that he has somehow managed to Mr. Magoo as a child his way through life.
dan friesen
But then also, the other thing, too, you really have to consider is context.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I'm calling Marco Rubio, little Marco, like on stage in a debate or something is an entirely inappropriate setting for that.
And that's kind of why it's notable.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Whereas you talking shit on a podcast or Alex's radio show isn't really.
It's not really all that like edgy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
And I think it's mainly edgy because it's especially for.
Trump's way of doing it is because it's directed at people who are so thin-skinned they can't help but be like, how dare he call me Little Marco?
dan friesen
And are definitely not used to that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
In settings where everybody agrees to be professional.
jordan holmes
Exactly, exactly.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So, this dude, Ben Marbles, Ben Marble, has an interesting theory about what has...
Really made this pandemic happen.
jordan holmes
Not enough bombs on the World Economic Forum.
dan friesen
Certainly that is probably a part of it.
But he has a theory that it's political correctness.
dr ben marble
But this is a bioterrorism program, no doubt about it.
And the spike protein is the single biggest weapon.
Now, I would also get at the root of, you know, we talk about root causes.
The root cause, you know, the globalists at Davos, their biggest weapon is political correctness.
Political correctness is how all this has happened.
And it's the great big charade.
alex jones
That's right.
They use that to paralyze.
Like, oh, you're truckers that want to be injected.
You're a racist.
Oh, you don't want your five-year-old to be taught about transgenderism.
You're a racist.
We go, oh, don't call me that.
I'll do whatever you say.
It's ridiculous.
It's a paper tiger.
It's like the Wizard of Oz behind the curtain.
It's a hoax.
dr ben marble
Yep.
The fear of being called a racist.
Everybody will go to extreme lengths to avoid being called a racist.
You know, political correctness is why that has happened.
Political correctness is the exact opposite of free speech.
And, you know, people used to think, oh, it's just good manners.
But no, it's not good manners.
It's getting millions and millions of people killed around the world is what's happened because of political correctness.
So I would say going forward, you know, in 1946, they made it illegal to be a Nazi in Germany.
Well, when this war is over, political correctness needs to be banned globally, or at least in America.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
Wild.
dan friesen
This guy is stupid.
jordan holmes
What a really, really dumb thing to say.
dan friesen
One thing I wanted to ask you about.
I'm sorry, I interrupted you there.
But I wanted to...
How do you do that?
How would you ban political correctness?
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, I think ultimately the undercurrent of what he's saying is that if you don't allow me to say the N-word, Everybody else is gonna die.
unidentified
Isn't that kind of what he's saying?
dan friesen
I get...
A strong feeling that this guy's really sensitive about people calling him a racist.
jordan holmes
I want to say the N-word!
Why is it that I can't say the N-word and not be called a racist?
It has to be one or the other?
dan friesen
See, these are the kind of conversations that I would love to have in a different setting than on Alex's show, because if this guy said this anywhere else, someone would be like, how do you propose we go about banning political correctness?
jordan holmes
I mean, if you said that aloud in a place where there's four or more people I expect everyone to say, Stop what they're doing and turn and stare in your eyes and be like, stop it.
dan friesen
What policy positions do you advocate for to ban political correctness?
jordan holmes
If I say something that makes you feel bad, fuck you.
But if you say something that makes me feel bad, you're gonna die.
dan friesen
But here's the other thing.
Is it a situation where political correctness is me saying that what you said is racist?
Or is it political correctness, anybody stopping themselves from saying racist things?
So therefore, it would be illegal to not be racist.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Your point is good, but I think you're skipping over a lot, which is first...
What is it that you're trying to ban when you say you're trying to ban political correctness?
dan friesen
People saying that things are racist?
jordan holmes
Is that it?
dan friesen
That's the feeling I get.
jordan holmes
Right.
So then if that's what you want to ban, then just make it illegal for people to say that things are racist.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, that's what the whole anti-CRT thing is.
jordan holmes
Right.
And so then people will just say that it's a different word.
Because you can't legislate concepts.
That's a very dumb thing to think you can do.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, on a basic level, that is true.
But I would suggest that this guy is so concerned about free speech and is advocating for something that would necessarily require a drastic limitation on speech.
jordan holmes
And a massive surveillance industry to enforce it.
dan friesen
You bet.
So he's dumb.
Anyway, he has some ideas about Soros.
Or, I'm sorry, Soras.
dr ben marble
You know, a lot of people don't realize it, but George Soros is a literal Nazi, and he's on many occasions stated taking down America was his life's goal.
Really?
And he's doing a great job of it.
unidentified
When?
dr ben marble
Why he's still alive, I don't know.
If I was president, he would be the first person I would take out, along with Klaus Schwab, Bill Gates, and Fauci, and a few others.
Those people...
Minimum, they need to be arrested and on trial.
I'm a doctor.
I'm sworn an oath to protect life, so I'm not going to take anybody's life.
jordan holmes
What?
dr ben marble
The job of soldiers during war is to arrest and or kill the enemy.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
This guy seems like he's a little bit far out there.
jordan holmes
You know, here's the problem.
I swear to God, here's my fucking problem.
Presidential election after this one, the campaign on the right is just going to be, here's who I'm going to kill.
Here's my list.
Vote for me for this list, and that guy is going to pick a different list of people to kill, and that's who we choose now.
dan friesen
And then you'll be going over candidates, and you're like, I like most of this list.
A friend of mine's on there.
jordan holmes
Why did you put Kanye on your list?
Any other name would have been great.
Oh, shit.
And then two years after that, they're going to be like, politicians are all liars.
He didn't kill anybody on these lists.
And it's going to be a whole new thing.
unidentified
That's a scandal.
jordan holmes
It's just a whole mess, yeah.
dan friesen
This guy seems to be pretty preoccupied with the idea of being an executive and killing your enemies.
Which is not a great sign for his idea of politics.
Not a great sign for his idea of democracy or how...
Our system works.
He just seems to want to kill people.
jordan holmes
As a doctor, the way I want to solve problems is murder.
dan friesen
But other people doing it, because I need to preserve life.
jordan holmes
Anyways.
dan friesen
So he is a big fan of those German fake trial, mock trials that they're doing.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah, that's good stuff.
dan friesen
So if you missed the episode where Joel Skousen was on, he already explained to Alex how these are stupid, and they aren't going anywhere.
But Alex is back to believing in them, because Skousen isn't on, and someone who believes in them is.
dr ben marble
You know, Reiner Fulmich, he's a lawyer in Germany.
He's currently conducting mock trials to lay forth the evidence for the world to see about everything that's going on.
And so I would encourage everybody to tune in to what he's doing and to follow that.
But what we really need is some of the police, the upper level military to start arresting these evil people.
No!
unidentified
They need to be arrested and in prison, and then we can hold trials.
dr ben marble
I'm actually in favor of a global ban on the death penalty.
What?
unidentified
But it's still a time of war when millions of people are getting killed by the enemy, we have to do something so it's interesting to me how one of alex's like big things in all of his early earlier career was posse comitatus he would he had shirts that he sold with it and the idea that this guy is on here suggesting that the military should be arresting people the I mean...
dan friesen
He should be furious about that idea.
jordan holmes
This man is one of the most incoherent raving lunatics that I have heard in a long time.
And it's not because he's saying, like, oh, aliens are coming.
It's literally, he's just saying very insane shit.
That no one should listen to.
That doesn't even make any sense.
I'm against a global ban on the death penalty.
Now, everything I've said is about how much I want to kill today.
All I want to do is murder.
I want blood lining the streets behind me.
I think it's wrong.
I think the death penalty should be abolished.
unidentified
I want to bathe in the blood of my enemies.
dan friesen
And I also even think if you take away the military arresting people problem...
You still would have, like, what he wants is the police...
Without warrants or anything to go and arrest these people?
It seems...
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
This is dicey.
jordan holmes
The understanding these people have of government is essentially, maybe, what if we were all 25 people living in a small town in Wild West Texas, and we have to fucking stop the one thief that came through in the last 20 years, so we all hang him, and then we're like, we're good government!
dan friesen
That seems to be...
Pretty consistent with their obsession with sheriffs.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it does.
dan friesen
So if you think that they don't understand government, Dr. Marbles, if you think Dr. Marbles doesn't understand government, you're about to be proven wrong.
unidentified
Okay.
dr ben marble
Think about this.
Nine U.S. Supreme Court members, all nine have taken the poison.
So we have a completely corrupt Supreme Court.
A majority of Congress has taken the poison.
So we have a corrupt Congress.
All the global leaders globally, like Justin Trudeau, why is that guy not in prison?
I mean...
It's ridiculous what's going on, but the people see through it, so how we take back power, we just need to overthrow all these leaders and get rid of them, throw them all in prison where they belong.
dan friesen
So Alex has to take a long breath there.
I did get the sense that even Alex was like, I'm in it deep here.
jordan holmes
What do I even say to this?
Whoa!
dan friesen
I'm walking through mud a little bit.
jordan holmes
What do I believe?
I'm asking myself that question in the face of...
dan friesen
Am I supposed to agree with this guy saying he wants to bomb the World Economic Forum, or should I not be in...
jordan holmes
Am I...
dan friesen
Should I really be clear that I'm against that, or should I just let it hang?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it seems so hyperbolic that he can't be serious, but also, this guy 100% means it, and we should not allow him anywhere near any powerful position ever.
dan friesen
We have a microphone.
So we have the Supreme Court, most of the people in Congress, and world leaders have all been vaccinated.
So therefore, they're evil.
They're in on this whole big conspiracy.
jordan holmes
It's a great start.
dan friesen
And therefore, we have to overthrow all the governments and I guess get rid of all the Supreme Court justices.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, he does realize that he's accidentally, 100% accidentally, poked a massive hole in Alex's whole the vaccines are going to kill you story.
All of our Supreme Court is vaccinated.
Most of Congress is vaccinated.
Why even fucking bother with a revolution?
They're all going to be dead soon.
dan friesen
That's a good point.
There's a designated survivor, though, and you know that guy's not vaccinated.
jordan holmes
For sure.
Now, admittedly, it'd be real bad if your designated survivor died of COVID.
dan friesen
True.
Yeah, that is a good point.
No need for revolution if you believe the things you believe.
jordan holmes
They're all going to die.
They're all going to die in six months to two years anyways.
Just hang back.
Hang loose, guys.
You won.
dan friesen
Have a barbecue.
Just chill out.
jordan holmes
Yeah, just chill out.
Stop trying to overthrow governments.
They're already done.
dan friesen
I find this to be amusing a little bit, but also this guy seems...
jordan holmes
Oh, no, he needs...
Yeah, we're in a territory where I'm less like, this is funny, and more like, somebody needs to intervene.
There needs to be a professional involved.
dan friesen
It feels a little bit that way.
So anyway, Alex thinks that people are getting, like, booster shots compulsively.
jordan holmes
Oh, I can't stop.
You get one.
dan friesen
I think he does think that they're doing that.
jordan holmes
Fucking Pringles, man.
alex jones
Then we see some people.
All over the world it's happening.
Get 7, 8, 9, 10 shots so obsessed, wanting like, okay, well, it doesn't work.
I want more shots, and then they die.
dr ben marble
That's the great, you know, everybody knows, you know, the definition of sanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result, and that's the...
Proof that political correctness causes insanity is the cause of this mass formation psychosis or global mass psychosis.
It's a global brainwashing.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
So people are like, hey, man, this vaccine isn't working, so I'm going to take eight.
I'm just going to keep taking them.
And that's because of political correctness.
jordan holmes
I mean, we're at a point.
With this dude, where I'm like, legitimately, how do you go to a grocery store?
Because your brain is so whacked out.
Anything in a grocery store could set this guy off.
dan friesen
It's all political correctness.
jordan holmes
It's all political correctness.
Everything is political correctness.
I don't even know how that can relate to me.
Political correctness is people wanting to get shots, and now that's driving them crazy?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, this bread isn't named after a racial slur, so it's politically correct bread.
unidentified
Little Debbie, she's too small!
dan friesen
So, Alex, you know, he just wishes that all of his dumb friends were wrong.
jordan holmes
Don't we?
dan friesen
No, they are.
Yeah, I have good news.
I have great news.
They are all wrong.
jordan holmes
That's really good news.
alex jones
Dr. Ben Marbles here.
And, you know, Doc, I wish you were wrong.
And I wish all the scientists and doctors I had were wrong.
I wish the discovery of HIV was wrong.
He won the Nobel Prize you just mentioned.
I wish that the former chief scientist at Pfizer was wrong, Dr. Yudon.
I wish the inventor of mRNA technology was wrong, Robert Malone, Dr. Malone.
I wish you were all wrong, but you're not wrong.
And I can see the statistics.
Major insurance companies, a consortium, say over 40% increase in deaths, 18 to 56, 18 to 64, working age, bigger than World War II death rate increase.
Where we lost a million people or so.
So, and they admit it's not COVID.
dan friesen
That's probably political correctness.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would assume so.
dan friesen
So yeah, great news.
All of these weirdo friends of Alex's are wrong.
I hope that he can take some comfort now that we've, you know, disabused him of the notion that they're onto something.
jordan holmes
It is nice.
dan friesen
As for this thing about the insurance company saying that there's a huge increase in deaths, that is true.
This is about a guy named J. Scott Davison, the CEO of One America Insurance, who came out and said that they are seeing a massive increase in deaths since the pandemic began, upwards of 40%.
Alex is absolutely lying about them saying it's not COVID, though.
This is about COVID deaths.
This story includes a comment Davison made that reflected that even if something doesn't immediately appear to be a death from COVID, quote, the virus could have triggered a separate illness that eventually leads to death.
This is just saying that there are additional deaths to the ones that are definitively COVID, where there's a chance that a COVID side effect led to a fatal condition.
Alex is lying about this to make it seem like the insurance company said that all these deaths are COVID because he's a liar, and he hangs out with doctors who lie about their credentials and are wrong all the time, and that's just standard practice here on InfoWars.
Nonsense.
unidentified
Man, I mean, that's tough.
jordan holmes
That's tough, you know?
I just imagine being somebody who is so fucking integral to the nonstop stream of death.
Reading a study that's like, deaths are up today, and being like, well, gotta go to work.
Not like, I am a true fucking cancer upon all of humanity.
All of these deaths rising are partially my fault, more so than many others.
And I'll just go back to lying about them.
That's insane!
dan friesen
You're pot committed at a certain point, you know?
Can't just apologize now.
Yeah, no way.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So, you know, I think there's a lot of people who talk about how it's tough to get people who are in conspiracy communities and like maybe QAnon or, you know, they believe Alex shit, you know.
It's hard to get them out of that.
De-radicalization is really difficult.
Right.
And guess what?
It apparently, this is the perspective of Dr. Marbles, too.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
But in reverse.
unidentified
Ooh.
dr ben marble
What they believe is fake science.
The PC COVID cult, they're just in this dystopian, fairytale world that does not exist, where you can just pretend you're whatever you want.
You're not a man, you're not a woman, you're just a they or an us.
alex jones
And all your enemies are Russian agents because you don't want nuclear war.
dr ben marble
Yeah, and anybody who says anything against that is racist and all this just nonsense, and they're just all crazy.
And brainwashed.
And the problem with those people is once they're brainwashed, it's hard to bring them back.
I mean, once they, you know, we have patients that'll come to us, they've taken the shot, and then they get sick, and then the problem is when they get sick, their doctor won't treat them.
And I would encourage people across America.
alex jones
That's right, the doctors wait until they now can't breathe to get that 53,000 for innovation.
dr ben marble
Yeah, I would encourage patients, if you got sick with COVID and you called your doctor and they wouldn't treat you, sue that doctor.
dan friesen
So yeah, the money is...
That narrative's coming back, I guess.
So yeah, now he wants you to sue your doctor, bomb the World Economic Forum, have the military arrest Fauci, Gates, Klaus Schwab, all of that, and then kill them.
This dude's got a...
Oh, and ban the political correctness.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
He's got quite a platform.
jordan holmes
I mean, his first hundred days in office are going to be a real race to the bottom on that one.
It's going to be tough.
dan friesen
A lot of lawyers are going to be real busy.
jordan holmes
There's going to be some pushback from the, well, I mean, the Supreme Court will all be dead.
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
They took the poison.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's not much they can do about it.
dan friesen
The ACLU lawyers will be hard at work.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So, we have one last clip here, and it's Alex rambling a little bit about how the hospitals are going to kill you.
It's nice to see this narrative coming back, too.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's great.
alex jones
Folks, you've got to write this down.
You may have gotten over COVID, or you may be fine.
That's great.
Your friends, your family, your neighbors get this synthetic spike protein that's floating around, and if they go to a mainline hospital, they'll say, go home, because they're given a battle plan.
Most of them aren't even aware of what they're doing.
While it incubates, while it takes over, while it destroys your tissue, and then once you can't breathe, once your oxygen is low, now you're prepared.
The protocol says put you on a ventilator, which kills 94% of people, even the New York Times.
jordan holmes
The ventilator does.
alex jones
You need vitamin C. You need vitamin D. You need zinc.
You need it all up front to be heavily loaded on it.
And then, obviously, from all the evidence, you need to have access to a medical doctor, and folks will give you prescriptions for things that big pharma doesn't want you to have because they're trying to kill you while they suck.
$53,000 per minimum out of you.
So myfreedoctor.com, myfreedoctor.com.
Write that down.
Save that number.
We get so many calls.
Where do I call?
Look at an online pharmacy.
It'll call me back.
Where do I call?
It's free.
This is free.
It's off donations.
So God bless them.
Separately, boost your immune system.
X3.
All three good types of iodine.
dan friesen
I feel like it's really difficult to hear a clip like that.
And not think that he is promoting his products as a preventative for COVID.
I know that he's not making the connection one-to-one.
He's doing a little plug for weirdo doctor's call-in line in between.
But he's saying that one of the things you've got to do is load up ahead of time on stuff for your immune system and then, A, boost your immune system by using my products.
It really feels like that's the conclusion you would take away from this.
If you were listening to it.
jordan holmes
If you are directing people towards the logical conclusion of your argument, regardless of whether or not you put a couple buffer sentences in between...
If you do this, this will happen.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Then you're still saying that, yeah.
dan friesen
That is what it seems like.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I feel like that's, I mean, it's obviously against the law, and I feel like he's gotten warned about that by the New York Attorney General.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
I have a serious problem with this Dr. Marbles.
Well, I mean, I have many.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
A great number that are growing.
But...
Does he prescribe any medications other than ivermectin and hydrochloroquine?
dan friesen
Not that I know of.
jordan holmes
But he's been a doctor for a while.
He didn't just start being a doctor today.
dan friesen
I would assume that he does, but I don't think you would ever be able to find an article about how he prescribes other things.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
Well, I mean, yeah.
But all of that comes from the same medical information.
Vaccine was created out of.
So it's not like he's prescribing a completely separate, unrelated, like all of this comes from the same science, man.
Like you can't get, you can't be like, oh, these great pills and vaccines are good, but these ones are evil.
When they're made by the same folk!
dan friesen
No, you can't.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
You can't.
No!
Nothing's real.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a good point.
unidentified
I'm just so mad.
dan friesen
Welcome to Dr. Marbles.
jordan holmes
Pick a lane!
Pick a lane!
dan friesen
I think he has.
But it's crazy town.
jordan holmes
It is crazy town.
dan friesen
I don't know how to respond to anything you're saying because I think what you have to do is give up.
jordan holmes
You really do.
dan friesen
And then it all makes sense.
jordan holmes
Abolish the death penalty after we've killed everyone that I would give it to.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we come to the end of this, and I think it's very unsurprising that Alex is doing this little charade about the Durham report.
I think it's really gross, the way he's trying to get on the vaccine HIV train.
And then Dr. Marbles, man.
jordan holmes
Dr. Marbles.
dan friesen
I hope we don't see more of him.
This guy was a bit much.
jordan holmes
I really thought Dr. Group was out there, but man, Dr. Marbles is...
Wow!
dan friesen
And if we, you know, if past is prelude, then Dr. Marbles is going to be a piss doctor before too long.
jordan holmes
He's gotta.
dan friesen
In a few years.
jordan holmes
I mean, it does really sound like, I mean, it really does sound like he was at a fucking Cirque du Soleil show doing backflips, having a great time, and then was like, Dr. Marbles, I could just call...
I can just help people.
I'm a real doctor.
It's the same basic thing.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Nobody will know.
dan friesen
I feel like maybe he had a dog named Dr. Marbles.
And then he was like, I'm in.
Just use that name.
jordan holmes
I can just use that name.
dan friesen
That'll work.
Yeah, I wonder about him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, he got a PhD in the clowning arts, so, you know, what are you going to do?
dan friesen
Hey, that's a legitimate field of study.
jordan holmes
It is, it is.
dan friesen
So we'll be back, Jordan, but until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do, it's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter, it's at knowledge underscore fight, and I go to bed Jordan.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back, but until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark, I'm Daryl Rundus.
steve quayle
And now, here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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