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Feb. 14, 2022 - Knowledge Fight
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#648: February 11, 2022

Today, Dan and Jordan follow Alex's advice to mark Feb. 11 on their calendars as the day that the Globalists' plot collapsed entirely. Also, Alex tries to walk back Rogan's apology for him, and explains what it's like to be in the literal presence of God. Citations

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
24:24
d
dan friesen
49:53
j
jordan holmes
24:01
Appearances
Clips
j
joe rogan
00:41
j
jon bowne
00:15
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
I need money.
Andy and Kansas.
alex jones
Andy and Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy and Kansas.
Andy and Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time calling.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your world.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for ya.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot today is, well, it's kind of hypothetical, but it's still in the ballpark.
Sweatpants.
jordan holmes
Hypothetical sweatpants.
dan friesen
I got some sweatpants.
jordan holmes
The concept of sweatpants.
dan friesen
Well, I haven't worn them yet.
Therefore, later tonight.
I see.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I've been flirting with the idea of just retiring to, like, I can wear some sweatpants.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
And I think it's time.
jordan holmes
It's great.
dan friesen
Yeah, to have around the house, maybe in lieu of a pajama pant.
jordan holmes
Love it.
dan friesen
Or something, so I'm getting into leisure.
jordan holmes
Oh, I'm huge sweatpants, and I mean that literally.
I have gigantic sweatpants, way too big for me, and I just can't get rid of them.
dan friesen
Well, I find myself always...
Generally wearing a hoodie.
And I feel like, what is sweatpants but pant hoodie?
jordan holmes
The hoodie of pants.
dan friesen
Exactly.
So yeah, I'm excited about that.
What about you?
jordan holmes
I like that.
My bright spot is this movie, a new movie, maybe?
I can't remember.
It's called Red Rocket.
And it is about, it's one of those classic slice of life, the decline of America movies, you know?
It's about this porn star.
Can't hack it in LA anymore.
It has to go back to his small town Texas home.
Very unsubtle Trump comparisons.
Very unsubtle everything.
But it's a very interesting movie.
I recommend it.
dan friesen
They have to go back to the struggling Texas porn industry and try and rebuild?
jordan holmes
Well, no.
dan friesen
Well, that sounds fun.
jordan holmes
No, it is fun.
dan friesen
I thought you were going to say Jackass Forever.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
I haven't seen it.
I haven't been to a movie theater in years.
dan friesen
Neither have I. Yeah.
But I will watch that eventually.
jordan holmes
As soon as I can.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we have an interesting episode to go over.
We're going to be talking about February 11th, 2022.
unidentified
Ooh, okay.
dan friesen
That is Friday of last week.
jordan holmes
Friday of last week.
dan friesen
Very exciting little sort of arc we have over the course of this episode.
And I'm excited to get down to business on that.
But first...
We've got to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Ooh, good call.
dan friesen
So first, Lauren D. Also, sorry about this.
We should have gotten to this maybe a week ago or so.
jordan holmes
Maybe a week ago.
dan friesen
We're a little bit late on wishing you a happy first day as a policy officer.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, and congratulations.
dan friesen
Congrats.
Next, Honeycomb Hideout Passholder.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Next, a little drakey for me.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
alex jones
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Jordan, active listening to Alex and Clips and giving him credulous feedback is always my bright spot.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
So Jordan, we got a couple of Happy Valentine's Day messages.
unidentified
Great!
dan friesen
For some wonks out there.
So first, Happy Valentine's Day to Kamari from Emily!
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much and Happy Valentine's Day!
dan friesen
I have this drop for you.
Next, Happy Valentine's Day to DJ Blakey B!
You are now a Valentine's wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
Have a little Blakey.
dan friesen
A little Blakey.
jordan holmes
A little DJ Blakey for me.
dan friesen
And we got a technocrat in the mix today, Jordan.
So thank you very much to Alex Ross.
You know which one we mean.
We're listening.
Thank you so much.
You are now a technocrat.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
I have risen above my enemies.
I might quit tomorrow, actually.
I'm just going to take a little breaky now.
A little breaky for me.
And then we're going to come back, and I'm going to start the show over.
I'm the devil!
I've got to be taken off the air!
unidentified
Fuck you!
alex jones
Fuck you!
I've got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your New World Order, and fuck the horse you rode in on, and all your shit!
Maybe today should be my last broadcast.
Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.
Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow, and you never see me again.
That's really what I want to do.
I never want to come back here again.
I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air.
I'll be better tomorrow.
dan friesen
I'm not sure if he's better on this episode, but he certainly gets weird towards the end.
alex jones
That's good.
dan friesen
I can tell you that for sure.
jordan holmes
That's always nice.
dan friesen
So, on Friday, Alex was deciding to take most of his time talking about how the globalists had been defeated.
jordan holmes
Already?
Yes.
dan friesen
Now.
jordan holmes
Whoa!
That was a quick turnaround.
dan friesen
Well, maybe they're not so defeated, but they're defeated.
jordan holmes
They're defeated.
dan friesen
It's a triumphant day for Alex, and it is a day that you need to mark in your calendar.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
You can officially mark your calendars as February 11th, 2022, as the date that the COVID biomedical power grab Great Reset tyranny officially collapsed.
Now, they're still going to try to enforce and implement it, but we need to pick a point to which the House of Cards began falling really from day one.
They launched it two-plus years ago because of their own documents, their own arrogance, and a lot of good scientists and researchers that weren't going to let them get away with it.
So the House of Cards, right at the time they launched this lie, began to wobble and collapse, but it's been in slow motion freefall.
since then, but now it is a pile of cards on the table.
Now it's up to us to prosecute the criminals that have carried out this psychological warfare operation and this biological warfare operation to bring into their world government So now it's time for prosecutions.
dan friesen
There's a little bit of a tone that you're going to get over the course of this episode, I think, that there's a tonal change.
There's a mood change from, we have now declared victory, and now it is time to put on war crimes trials for all of our imaginary enemies.
I think Alex is a little bit high on the truckers in Ottawa.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
I think that's the explanation for everything.
I think he thinks that this is solved.
All of the problems of the COVID.
jordan holmes
This is the big one.
Trudeau has stepped down.
We just got to prosecute him for war crimes.
The whole thing.
dan friesen
Everything is getting wrapped up thanks to the brave truckers who have honked their horns a bunch.
jordan holmes
Because I will be honest, what he just said does not make any sense.
dan friesen
It certainly doesn't.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I think even if you just look at it conceptually, take it outside of the prism of reality.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And you look at it from a, okay, so we got a house of cards.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The second they launched this operation two years ago.
It was wobbling.
jordan holmes
Immediate wobble.
dan friesen
But now it is completely collapsed.
jordan holmes
Right, but that's not how House of Cards collapsed.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
They collapse very quickly.
dan friesen
But it's collapsed, and mark the day that it finished collapsing, as opposed to, wouldn't you mark the day that it began?
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would...
dan friesen
Because that's when the die was cast, you know?
jordan holmes
Right, it was already destined to fail, so theoretically it already has failed.
dan friesen
I don't think there's a lot of saving a wobbly house of cards.
It's very delicate.
jordan holmes
No, very much not.
dan friesen
Seems like it would be tough.
Yeah, and also you'll notice in there, too, that Alex does his favorite thing of, like, they have completely collapsed, it is over, but also they're still going to do it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say, the House of Cards is not a flat house of...
It's not just a pile of cards if they're still going to try and do it.
That's not how it works.
dan friesen
Look, the House of Cards collapsed, but they're going to pick up the cards, they're going to shuffle them, and they're going to try to make you play Texas Hold 'em.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Well, this is difficult.
I thought we were playing...
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
So, like I said, this is mostly about the truckers and the Ottawa protest.
alex jones
The Biden administration, by the way, came out, I've got the article, and said Trudeau needs to use federal force to crack down on his insurrection.
Children jumping on bouncy houses for day 11 now, or is it day 12?
Crime rate almost zero now in Ottawa.
Think about that.
dan friesen
Alex is absolutely just making that statistic up.
There's no way he's looked into relative crime rates from before the truck convoy arrived in Ottawa compared to current rates, and honestly, I'm pretty much certain he wouldn't know how to look into that, even if he wanted to.
And Alex is very much wrong.
There have been plenty of crimes that people have been arrested for in Ottawa, specifically at the convoy even.
Over 100 of the tickets and citations that have been given out have been for relatively minor crimes like having booze out in public or not wearing a seatbelt, but there have also been multiple people arrested for destruction of property in regards to damaging the property of local businesses.
According to a statement put out by the Ottawa Police Department, quote, This is outdated information.
There have been more investigations that have opened since that statement was released.
Right, right, right.
It's good PR to have this image of the bouncy houses to point to and pretend that was all that was going on, but that's just meant to run cover.
Right, right, right, right.
In this case, one of the things that the image of the bouncy houses is covering up is there seems to be a lot of hate crimes happening.
The Ottawa Police Department put out a press release on February 10th and revealed that their hate-motivated crime hotline had received over 413 calls that were needing to be followed up on.
For some context, in 2019, Ottawa had only 116 reports of hate-motivated crimes and 182 in 2020.
The period of time where the convoy occupation has gone on has led to an over-doubling of reporting of hate-motivated crimes compared to what the city usually sees in a year.
Right, right.
jordan holmes
Yeah, so when rich people in America pay for stuff, generally speaking, it's going to increase the number of hate crimes in other countries.
dan friesen
There is that side effect.
jordan holmes
There's a corollary, it seems.
dan friesen
So this is just something that Alex does really consistently.
Everything that's related to extreme right-wing causes that he supports involves absolutely no violence, and in fact, the mere presence of these Patriot heroes has the effect of eliminating the crime that existed there before.
He does this with right-wing protests all the time, and now apparently an occupation of a city by people pretending to care about vaccine mandates for truckers.
Conversely, every event that involves people on the other side of the political aisle is reported by Alex as essentially being a bloodbath.
If he was there, he will have had to fight his way out of wherever it was.
If he wasn't there, he'll find some weirdo to claim that Antifa was beating up grandmas while the police cheered them on.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
It's a nonsense.
This is a script for him, and the reality of a particular situation does not matter.
The goal of his show is to advance this very extreme right-wing politics, and he does that by using narratives, and it's not necessary for those narratives to...
to connect to reality.
If they work, that is true enough.
And for what it's worth, of course Biden wants Trudeau to use more force to solve the situation.
These assholes are blocking border crossings that are essential for transporting goods between the countries.
You should expect that to piss off the heads of those states.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Real quick.
Real quick.
If you say to me, see, now, after these convoy guys got there, there's no more crime.
What does that tell you?
Does that tell me that we should have a convoy shut down every major city in the United States in order to end crime?
dan friesen
Well, I think...
Is that the point?
jordan holmes
Is it we just end everything?
dan friesen
Well, I dispute the statistic, but...
Well, obviously the statistic is...
jordan holmes
Yeah, imagine it's true.
dan friesen
Assuming it's true, I would look for other possible explanations for it, like...
The police have gone on holiday.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, there could be that.
dan friesen
They've just decided not to do any...
jordan holmes
A complete abdication of responsibility whatsoever.
dan friesen
Right, there might be a reason that there's no crimes getting reported or something, as opposed to there actually not being any crimes.
jordan holmes
Ooh, so that's one way to solve the crime problem.
Completely shut down the ability of anything to function whatsoever.
dan friesen
Hey.
jordan holmes
Then you can't report anything.
dan friesen
That's one way.
jordan holmes
Who are you going to report it to?
dan friesen
Ghostbusters?
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
So, look, this protest is non-violence.
It is just, like, civil disobedience at its core.
jordan holmes
A million truckers from the tip of South America to the top of Canada.
dan friesen
This is the kind of stuff that the sort of legends of non-violent...
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Gandhi.
unidentified
Gandhi.
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
He's in the mix.
He would love this.
jordan holmes
I would love that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
alex jones
And then they wanted to soften us up.
And feminized men and all the rest of it so that we would not resist their takeover.
And now they're surprised that people understand they want violence, understand they think they can beat us if they trick us into violence.
And so we're not being violent.
We're politically, culturally, peacefully, with very light civil disobedience.
Blocking bridges is light stuff.
And that's what Martin Luther King would do.
And you're going to try to call that violent, and you're going to try to claim the supply chain's breaking down, not because of the two years of lockdowns in the third world, where we got our supplies from mainly, but because of a couple weeks of truckers saying, hey, you attacked us with a blockade, we're going to hit you right back with a damn blockade to show you we got the power!
dan friesen
Oh boy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I don't think that any of these people have the kind of discipline that Gandhi or Martin Luther King Jr. might have had.
And also, I think...
From my understanding of sort of past actions by people like King or Gandhi, they had a point that was pretty clear.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it was very clear.
dan friesen
Whereas I think that the nebulousness of what this truck...
jordan holmes
It's vaccines and it's the laws.
Trudeau.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Am I right?
dan friesen
You gotta.
Getting a criminal trial for Fauci?
jordan holmes
They're everywhere.
Just vague.
They're everywhere.
dan friesen
There is a non-uniformity of what is the point of this that I think kind of hurts the sort of civil disobedience aspect of it.
It's poorly organized from that standpoint.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, if you're real...
Point is, we want to make enough chaos where smarter people than us can, like, sneak into the halls of power while everybody's focused on us being assholes.
Then you can't really say that's your whole idea.
dan friesen
Well, it's also, I don't think that's non-violence.
That's running a distraction.
jordan holmes
There you go.
Exactly.
dan friesen
And also, as for the supply chain issue that Alex is bringing up, there's going to be some impact on it from the blockades on the bridges, because they're where a lot of trade goods are transported.
But ultimately, Alex is missing most of the point.
The conversation that people are having largely isn't about the larger supply chain totally being impacted.
It's specific ones that are getting hit hard.
This is mostly about the automotive industry and how car manufacturers rely heavily on that ambassador bridge that the truckers are blocking, or have been blocking.
That blockade has led to slowed assembly lines and some...
This seems like something Alex should really care a lot about, considering how much he talks about how evil it is that the globalists want to de-industrialize the United States.
It seems like if these blockades continue, and these already struggling auto manufacturers in the United States can't do business like this...
They're just going to stop making cars?
Is that what they're going to do?
No.
They're going to lay off workers, they're going to raise prices, or they're going to move their manufacturing somewhere else where it's more convenient to them, which Alex is supposed to be super against.
jordan holmes
And what you're forgetting is that if they have a pretext, they're going to do all three at the same time.
dan friesen
And you're giving a great pretext.
jordan holmes
Yep, you got it.
There you go.
dan friesen
Alex is a friend of the worker.
Anyway, look, this is working out really well.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The blockade?
jordan holmes
House of cards, gone.
dan friesen
It's come down.
It's come down.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But also, they might rebuild that house of cards.
alex jones
I cannot express enough to you how incredible this moment is, but the enemy will strike back, and we'll talk about that in the next hour.
But I'll talk about the positive things today here.
All across the world, from Asia to the Middle East, to Africa, to Europe, Russia, North America, Central America, South America, everywhere.
Except the usual suspects, God bless them, are totally removing the restrictions because they know it built a crescendo, a crest of resistance in law enforcement, in the military, in the bureaucracy, in the systems, in the courts, everywhere to say no because the average person now realizes this is destroying their own future.
Going along with this, even if you work with the system and even if you're a bad person, you don't want to live in a dystopia, do you?
People now know the New World Order stinks.
dan friesen
It stinks, man.
jordan holmes
It stinks.
Like John Lovitz before him, Alex Jones has decried something for stinking.
dan friesen
Dropping the catchphrase.
jordan holmes
You betcha.
dan friesen
I don't know who the usual suspects are in that.
I have no idea.
That kind of confused me a little bit.
jordan holmes
I mean, he seemed to have named literally every...
Continent, at least.
dan friesen
Except for the...
God bless them.
jordan holmes
Luxembourg.
dan friesen
God bless those Luxembourg.
Luxembourg, France?
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Yeah, okay.
jordan holmes
They're not having anything to do with this.
dan friesen
So you can see that trick there that Alex uses to keep people engaged when he's forced to announce something that's supposed to be good news for his team.
Everyone's dropping these COVID restrictions, so that should mean that they won.
But if you let the audience think they won, then they're going to get much less engaged in a hurry.
So the best thing you can do is to make sure that every victory comes with a reminder that this isn't actually a victory, and there's trouble right around the corner.
So you need to stay scared and reliant on Alex to be the tip of the spear or whatever.
As for the restrictions being dropped, I thought we already did this narrative like a month ago.
jordan holmes
I was sure we were done with this one.
dan friesen
It can't happen...
I don't know.
This is really disorienting, because Alex claimed victory and said that everyone was dropping their COVID restrictions back when Boris Johnson said England was going to, which was before the trucker convoy.
Because the convoy was really exciting people, Alex had to pretend that narrative he launched never happened, since if he was reporting that it was true, that everyone was dropping the COVID restrictions, that would undercut the supposed reason that these truckers were in the right to do what they were doing.
jordan holmes
It's more like a soft opening, you know, like a big restaurant.
You're not sure.
You've got to hammer out all the kinks first.
unidentified
A dress rehearsal.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Totally, you get it.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's just doing a propaganda retcon.
And in terms of capturing enthusiasm, I think it's probably a wise decision.
The momentum that comes from this whole situation in Ottawa and whatever direction things end up going there, that's way more profitable than whatever bland storyline that was going to grow out of Boris Johnson's announcement.
No way.
No good.
Yeah.
unidentified
Different places have different contexts for how the pandemic is going, so their responses are going to be different.
dan friesen
Sweden is easing restrictions, while Hong Kong is tightening up significantly.
Alex has a habit of generalizing very complex things down to single variable storylines that are easy for him to explain and easier for the audience to digest.
There aren't a ton of different governments making decisions based on different variables and different philosophies surrounding public health.
There's just one overarching evil cabal who's making everyone put COVID restrictions in place, and they're so scared by the trucker convoy that they've decided to have everyone withdraw the restrictions at once.
Yeah.
unidentified
It's childish, but the impulse to engage with news that way makes total sense, because, you know, if Alex actually had to explain the things he's talking about in detail, his worldview and conspiracy wouldn't make any sense.
jordan holmes
Oh, it'd collapse.
Like a house of cards.
dan friesen
That was wobbly from day one.
Yeah, it's...
jordan holmes
Brinksmanship is so...
Not brinksmanship, but that, like, it's always on the knife's edge of victory or failure, but you never know.
Like, it's literally him screaming, like, hey, listen, we played a great basketball game, only 10 seconds left, we're up by 50 points, we don't need to worry about it.
That said, their last shot counts for 51 points and it's a layup, so you gotta be terrified all the time.
dan friesen
We're playing rock and chalk.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
It's like, what are we doing?
dan friesen
There's that silver basket way up there.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I didn't even realize.
Shit!
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a cheap trick to try and create tension and continued tension.
Yeah.
It's stupid.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex has some other news from the world about victories vis-a-vis COVID.
alex jones
Israel to scrap COVID green past.
Boom.
Just scrapping it.
They're all scrapping everything.
Now, they're going to try to bring it back later, but this beta test failed so far in phase one.
Problem is, it's a soft kill weapon.
Wait till that comes out.
dan friesen
That is a problem.
jordan holmes
I mean, a soft-kill weapon tends to be a problem.
I haven't heard of one that's not a problem at all.
dan friesen
I don't even think he was saying that the soft-kill weapon is the problem.
Wait until it comes out.
That's going to be the problem.
alex jones
That'll be the issue.
dan friesen
So Israel has decided to do away with its Green Pass system, but it's not universal in its application.
There are still going to be events that require vaccinations, ones with, quote, significantly greater risk of infections, such as weddings and parties, according to an article in Herats.
It's not really good news, though, because their reasoning was largely that the program hadn't had an effect on encouraging holdouts to get vaccinated and that they felt like the past program was, quote, becoming obsolete with the rampant spread of the Omicron variant that has changed the way governments are approaching the pandemic.
It's tough to see how this is a victory for Alex unless he's been cheering for the virus all this time and just not told.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it does seem like his response there is a little bit like, uh, everybody's kinda, Gone from trying to stop things to more covering their own ass and trying to keep their jobs.
So, guess we're open again!
Hooray!
dan friesen
And also, like...
Doesn't this destroy one of the giant conspiracy theory pillars that once a government gets a power, they're never going to give it up?
jordan holmes
They're never going to take those passes away because the passes are the mark of the beast.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And once they have them in your hands, you're done.
You're done.
You're never going back to how it was before.
But here he is reporting that they're just going back to how it was before.
jordan holmes
That would be a great part of the book of Revelations to have missed out is that at some point the Antichrist could just be like, you know what?
You know what, guys?
I'm going to take these Marks of the Beast back.
I'm just going to take them back.
I can't be doing this right now.
dan friesen
Or if it's like, the Mark of the Beast will be upon you and you will need it to buy or sell unless a bunch of truckers honk for a couple days and then everyone will get freaked out.
unidentified
No more Mark.
dan friesen
No more Mark.
jordan holmes
Do the bare minimum of sustained civil disobedience.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, there's some dumb...
elements to this reporting, but it pales in comparison to Alex doing this.
This next clip is so stupid.
It is next level stupid.
jordan holmes
Next level stupid.
dan friesen
I think this would be embarrassing if I heard this on Project Camelot.
alex jones
The biomedical tyranny trying to turn our little darlings into mentally ill hypochondriacs while injecting them.
And trying to fill them full of deadly poisons that are made out of the HIV virus that attack every organ in the body and turn off your white blood cells so you get cancer and every other disease and die.
Oh, and that's the bad news.
I have a stack of mainstream news here admitting record heart attacks, blood clots, myocarditis, and of course cancer.
dan friesen
He never gets to those articles, so just leave that aside.
jordan holmes
Don't worry about those.
alex jones
And, of course, deaths.
And it doesn't matter.
Suddenly the Smithsonian and science and physicians' world are saying it's incredible news.
What's in the Pfizer and Moderna shot, the graphene oxide, creates a perfect biomedical sensor.
And now they're going to be able to read everybody they say with machines.
It's a byproduct of what you took.
You're tracked now!
Oh, it's in the news!
dan friesen
So I don't think this needs to be said, but this is not in the news.
This is not in the news.
jordan holmes
But also, aren't we just back on...
Computer chips in the...
I mean, it's the same basic difference.
Instead of a computer chip, it's a graphene scanner thing.
dan friesen
Right, it'll make a chip within you or something.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, what are we doing?
Come on, man.
dan friesen
So I think that one essential piece that we need to just really deal with is that there isn't a graphene oxide.
In the vaccines, which kind of makes Alex's argument collapse much like a house of cards.
jordan holmes
Almost entirely.
dan friesen
Yes.
And I was really confused because I had no idea what the fuck he was talking about.
I couldn't find anything about what he was talking about.
jordan holmes
Nobody's like, hey, they're giving kids HIV.
Nobody said that.
dan friesen
Alex said this is in science and the Smithsonian did not find hide nor hair of this.
jordan holmes
Odd.
dan friesen
But then Alex read the headline and I was able to figure it out.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
alex jones
It's mainstream news.
Graphene biosensor will drive new innovations in brain-controlled robots.
Oh, and it's the exact type of graphene oxide that's been injected into you, and it's just a funny byproduct now that people that have had the shot can now have certain new types of medical diagnostics.
Wow, and those that don't will just inject you with it, and now you can.
dan friesen
So this has nothing to do with the article?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
This is an article from Physics World, and it has to do with the brain-machine interfaces that can be made, like for a robotic arm or something, and future applications where that technology can go.
Until recently, scientists had a problem, which was that graphene-based biosensors were really effective, but they were also fragile.
Quote, corroding upon contact with sweat.
That level of fragility.
This wasn't about implanting these sensors into the brain either.
It's not like internal sensors.
It would be like EEG, what would it be called, electrodes on the surface of your skin.
So graphene worked really well for these sensors, but they had that durability drawback.
And then on top of that, they, quote, exhibit high skin contact impedance that hampers the detection of signals from the brain.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So this article in Physics World is about the development of a new sensor using epitaxel graphene, which is, quote, grown on a silicon carbide on silicon substrate.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, like you do.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Duh, Dan!
dan friesen
So this creates a material that is as effective as graphene, but without the other limitations that we mentioned earlier.
The researchers who developed this new, better sensor believe that it'll have a lot of applications in emerging technologies, like being able to have a sensor that'll be able to move your arm or something.
So that's what this article is about, and you can see how Alex's coverage about this is completely made up.
He's making up literally everything about it.
It's just ramblings, and the two pillars of his bullshit are a headline for a scientific article he didn't read, and a false conspiracy theory that there's graphene oxide in the...
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is a lot of stuff pulled from whole cloth.
I mean, just with nothing.
With nothing behind it.
It's kind of amazing.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, you had conspiracy theories running around about how there's graphene oxide in the vaccines.
And then Alex, I guess someone showed him a headline that said that there's biosensors using graphene.
And he was just like, ha ha ha!
jordan holmes
Done.
dan friesen
They're the exact same.
jordan holmes
Put it all together.
dan friesen
So they're injecting you with a vaccine that has it, and then you'll have EEG electrodes growing inside you or something.
This is ridiculous.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, it is that, like...
Weird combination of the fact that we both live 100% in a future beyond our imagining and also live in fucking caveman time simultaneously.
Alex can straight up be like, God will, if you pray right, you'll get things.
And then at the same time, a scientist is like, yeah, we know how to grow substrate.
No big deal.
We can grow...
How can I live in that same...
unidentified
There's a story today that somebody got stoned for...
jordan holmes
And it's like, what?
You can't have growing substrate and stoning people on the same day!
dan friesen
I don't know.
Did you ever grow salt crystals when you were a kid in science class?
jordan holmes
Sure, but that's a little different.
dan friesen
It's a little different.
jordan holmes
It's a little different.
dan friesen
I think it might be...
jordan holmes
Close.
dan friesen
Conceptually.
jordan holmes
I can't hang, man.
dan friesen
It's a little disoriented.
It's a tough in-between state that we live in today.
jordan holmes
Especially since I don't understand either of them.
dan friesen
So, that's why we retreat to listening to Alex and being bewildered.
jordan holmes
That's where we live.
dan friesen
So, Alex has heard someone is not happy about the trucker folk.
And this is a person who's like an undersecretary.
Some department.
I don't remember.
I don't even remember who this person is, quite frankly.
But this lady got on CNN and tweeted also about how they should slash their tires and then move the trucks.
And so Alex is really upset about these comments because he's super into this convoy.
I think he wants to make it his own.
But his complaint about this woman seems to be largely centered around the idea that if you slash the tires, then you can't move the trucks.
It seems to be him complaining about how this woman doesn't know about trucks.
jordan holmes
It's just a bad plan.
dan friesen
It's very bizarre.
alex jones
The former deputy head of Homeland Security.
Coming out.
On CNN and saying, slash the tires, also on Twitter.
But you've got to love this quote because it's oxymoronic.
Slash the tires, arrest the drivers.
Harvard professor and CNN analyst calls for violence against Freedom Convoy.
But if you slash the tires, then you can't move the trucks.
But she doesn't seem to understand that.
She's just a Harvard professor, CNN analyst, former Obama administration, Undersecretary of Homeland Security, Juliette Kayeem, has called for violence and vandalism against Freedom Convoy protesters who have amassed on the bridge that connects Detroit, Michigan, to Windsor, Ontario.
The Ambassador Bridge links 28% of annual trade movement between the U.S. and Canada, she tweeted.
Slash the tires, empty gas tanks, arrest the drivers, and move the trucks.
And in that order...
unidentified
What voice is this?
This is garbage.
jordan holmes
Start over.
unidentified
But that doesn't sound violent enough to you, because you don't know anything about violence.
alex jones
You just know how to run your ugly piehole.
unidentified
Don't you, sweetheart?
dan friesen
It's so weird.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
It's so weird.
I mean, there's a misogyny in there, sure.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, totally.
No, naturally.
dan friesen
But he seems so hung up on the idea of if you slash the tires, you can't move the trucks.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I...
Sure.
dan friesen
It seems to be how he's taking the masculine high ground.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Only a man would know how to move trucks is kind of what I'm getting out of this, not like it's wrong to slash the tires and shit.
dan friesen
That should be kind of his larger position, I think.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's also the sort of classic, or the classism aspect of it.
This Harvard person doesn't know about truck tires, and he can't move them if you slash the tires.
jordan holmes
So stupid.
But everybody's response to the convoy is somewhat stupid because we're only trained to deal with protests or see the way protests are dealt with with violence.
And it's always fucking spray people with a hose.
Would these idiots just dress somebody up like Hillary Clinton with a big sign and they'll chase her out of the goddamn place?
Have her get in a car and drive away and they'll be like, we gotta get her!
It's that simple.
dan friesen
I just had a great plan.
What's that?
Is C.W. McCall still alive?
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
Because he might be the person who can get him.
jordan holmes
It's time.
It's time to get him going.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Release the Kraken.
dan friesen
Have him just drive past, call everybody rubber duck, and see if you can get him to follow.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
This is not a violent situation.
This is an outsmart the dum-dums.
Come on, guys.
dan friesen
You need to bring in the legends of convoys to take care of this here sitch.
Maybe get Burt Reynolds.
jordan holmes
I think Burt Reynolds is the ultimate hero, as is the case for most problems.
dan friesen
If somebody just ran through Ottawa yelling that they got smoky.
jordan holmes
I swear to God, it would not need to be complex.
Maybe it doesn't get everybody.
Maybe some people are like, no, this is a trick.
But there are going to be a lot of people who go, and you know it.
You know it, and I know it, and they know it.
dan friesen
It's a numbers game.
Yeah.
Alex spent a bit of time complaining about this order of slashing tires, moving trucks.
And unfortunately, that means that he did not have time to get to his actual point in that segment.
alex jones
I didn't get to the main point this segment, I will, about the soft kill.
Why the globalists have really got a big problem on their hands.
You see, they needed to be able to have a total takeover by now, censor everybody, clamp down, and have new lockdowns in.
So that in the future, when everybody starts dying, which is already happening, they can cover it up.
Instead, they've lost control of the whole narrative, and people now know what they've done.
So as the deaths mount, it's inevitable the globalists will pay.
What if you could cut your heating bills this winter?
dan friesen
That'd be great.
So it's fun how Alex didn't get to his main point because he got too distracted by his confusing complaints about tires.
So here's the thing, though.
Alex's point makes no sense.
He's already said that the globalists have a plan B, so because I listen to Alex and I remember what he said, I know that if the globalists' plans are really as screwed as Alex is pretending they are...
Then they're just going to release a super bioweapon to kill everyone.
jordan holmes
Right, we're all dead.
dan friesen
They would have preferred to have an orderly kill-off, but you can't always get what you want, as I learned from watching House, because they played that song too many times.
jordan holmes
That's too many times.
dan friesen
I feel like ideas like this, and the way Alex began the show, talking about how it's time to shift into prosecutions, denotes a bit of a troubling possibility.
I wouldn't be too surprised if the goal is to move the tone into more and more calls for violence against these imaginary enemies, and he'll use any deaths that end up happening to fuel that call.
Obviously, there isn't going to be a mass dying off, but you've seen how folks like Alex have responded to celebrity deaths recently.
Every elderly celebrity that dies must have been killed by the vaccine.
There's, you know, trying to hijack whatever emotional connection you might have with the celebrity and try and turn that into anger against the globalists for killing them.
I suspect that you're going to see a lot Yeah, that's the...
jordan holmes
The opening part with him saying that we've declared victory and now it's time for tribunals and all of that shit.
To me, any time this kind of conversation on the far right happens of like, now it's time for trials.
That's a week-long countdown to, well, trials will never work.
It's time to kill them all.
You know, like zero time.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a countdown to like, we have realized that...
Our shit is absurd.
Joel Skousen has come around and reminded us that we only have conspiracy evidence of things, so we might as well get a shooting.
jordan holmes
Ugh, it's stupid.
dan friesen
Yep, it's troubling.
So Alex decides to call an audible on this episode.
He was going to have some guests on.
I have no idea who they are, but they got bumped.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
alex jones
And we're going to open the phones up today.
I'm going to go ahead and just cancel the guests we've got.
They're great guests.
We're going to move the guests aside.
And we're going to take calls in the second and third hour into the fourth hour today.
And then Jay Dyer is going to be joining us.
And I want to talk first when we open the phones up for the first round of callers to truckers in Canada and people there on the bridge or people there at the Capitol.
And obviously we'll leave the lines open for Australians.
Folks in France and Belgium and people in New Zealand.
It's the truckers leading the fight here.
dan friesen
Hell yeah.
Let's get some truckers on the line.
jordan holmes
Gotta.
Gotta get some truckers on the line.
dan friesen
So we'll see if this pans out.
Apologies to whoever planned to be on Alex's show getting your message out.
Did not end up happening.
jordan holmes
I'm going to guess they canceled.
dan friesen
I'm going to guess there weren't anybody.
jordan holmes
Well, there's definitely that possible.
dan friesen
So, one of the things that Alex is really great at is predicting things.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
He's always right.
He's never wrong, because you just forget about the thousands of predictions that he makes that he just pretends he doesn't make.
jordan holmes
He is psychic.
dan friesen
Well, here's one that didn't come true.
alex jones
They'll probably attack them in the early morning hours, I would say, of Saturday evening, Sunday morning.
If I had to guess the tactics, they'll provocateur some as well.
I imagine they'll car bomb, a small car bomb.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
They won't blow up a daycare center and blame it on people.
That's a little too much for their cops.
But the real amount of police are going to get in a car bomb or something and say they did it.
That's coming next.
Of course, they may not do it because I just said what I would do if I was them.
I mean, I'm in their heads.
It's what I do.
It's what I do here.
That's not from a source.
That's just how they always operate before they launch a major operation.
It's a false flag.
That's what bad guys do.
Okay.
dan friesen
Okay.
So, yep.
Great.
We're recording this on Sunday.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Didn't happen.
Well, I mean, the cops asked them politely to go, and then most of them went.
dan friesen
Well, there was an injunction.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that didn't clear things out entirely.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Yeah, no false flag car bomb.
Although I do like how he's insulting Canada.
Like, you guys couldn't pull off Oklahoma City.
unidentified
Come on!
jordan holmes
The Mounties don't bomb daycares, the cowards!
dan friesen
That's pretty...
jordan holmes
Is that what he's trying to do?
dan friesen
I think he's trying to say that our police and our...
You know, globalist arm or whatever.
They pulled off Oklahoma City.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's big time stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
You guys could maybe do a car bump.
jordan holmes
Look, look.
If you want to turn Ottawa into the Northern Ireland border circa 1995, fine.
Fine.
Great!
But you don't have the guts to do OKC.
You don't.
dan friesen
That's a strange way to frame it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex goes to break and comes back, and we got a special report from John Bowne, and we're not going to listen to much of it, but just the beginning of it caught my ear, and I was like, fuck you, man.
jon bowne
Neil Young is a tool of the cult of the left.
unidentified
What kind of an ass...
jon bowne
Writes a song called Keep On Rockin' in the Free World and proceeds to become the loathsome antithesis of the song.
dan friesen
Hey, John, that song's a little tongue-in-cheek.
Wow, man.
The second verse of that song is about a woman who abandons her child on the streets to go get drugs.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Yeah, she hates her life and what she's done to it.
There's one more kid that'll never go to school, never get to fall in love, never get to be cool.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Keep on rockin' in the free world.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I'm starting to get the feeling that for most of the things that conservatives get very, very angry about, they have not done a close reading on.
dan friesen
Well, it's almost like John Bowne is responding to this song by its title, like Alex's articles in the headlines.
jordan holmes
Substance isn't really his focus there.
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
Just like how Born in the USA is about how great it is to be born in the USA.
That's what it's about.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Because it's the title.
dan friesen
I would guess that there is somewhere a John Bowne report about that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
About how Bruce Springsteen's...
jordan holmes
Born in the USA.
dan friesen
No, because...
Springsteen was a target of InfoWars for a little while.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Because he made that commercial.
jordan holmes
Once again.
dan friesen
He made that fucking car commercial.
unidentified
That's right.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
What is wrong with us?
dan friesen
They were mad at Springsteen.
I think it was a Super Bowl commercial.
jordan holmes
It was a Super Bowl commercial like two years ago.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
They were mad about him.
So I'm sure John Bowne did a video and he's like, how could somebody who made Born in the USA do this?
Do this to us.
How could he wrong us?
jordan holmes
What kind of monster?
dan friesen
So, Alex has caught some news, and he's pretty worried about it.
alex jones
I have had a chance to read the Declaration of Emergency by the globalist New World Order alumnus of Klaus Schwab over the state, the province of Ontario, Canada, that Ottawa, the capital, geographically resides in, and it's martial law.
$100,000 fine, a year in prison.
And the way it's sold is, oh, if you block a bridge.
But it actually says, if you block any road, that an ambulance might be trying to go down.
So, oh, you blocked a road, an ambulance can't go down it, you're going to go to jail.
dan friesen
Even if everything Alex was saying were true, that's not martial law.
But you look very confused.
jordan holmes
I'm furious.
dan friesen
Why is that?
jordan holmes
He supported the laws that the right wrote where it's like...
unidentified
The left blocks of road, you can hit them with your car!
dan friesen
He was pretty into that.
jordan holmes
He was super into that!
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yep.
Hypocrisy is not really all that important, but I agree with your sentiment.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
But, like I was saying, this isn't martial law, no matter what.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
It might be like a tight clampdown on protesters, but it doesn't even come close to the definition of martial law.
But that's fine for Alex and the audience, because in InfoWarsland, martial law is a term that describes a feeling.
It's a feeling of whenever a government does something you don't like.
jordan holmes
I don't feel like I can do whatever I want right now, and it's probably because the government declared martial law.
dan friesen
So there's two things that are going on here.
The first is that Ottawa Mayor Jim Watson declared a state of emergency within the city on February 6th.
Then on Friday the 11th, Ontario Premier Doug Ford also declared a state of emergency for the province because people were setting up the blockades at the border crossings that are outside Ottawa.
Alex didn't read any statement or emergency order, but he probably watched Doug Ford's short speech where he said this.
Quote,
Quote, So, this is a temporary order, but also, I don't agree with Alex's interpretation, but I think this is a bad idea.
I don't agree with this move.
Because you don't really need to have any further laws.
jordan holmes
No, you've already got the laws.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's illegal to block traffic already.
I mean, you could at least get a ticket.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
If you don't stop doing it.
jordan holmes
It's important to do this now, so whenever somebody who is non-white, a person of color, does something like this, you can put them in jail for a year and fine them $100,000.
dan friesen
I think...
jordan holmes
And then the Ottawa Convoy will get along very nicely.
dan friesen
I think you run the risk of that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That potential, of that being a precedent that's used against other protesters.
jordan holmes
It's how it's always worked.
dan friesen
Right.
And I think that it's unnecessary.
We don't have a problem of lack of laws.
We have a problem of this isn't being handled.
jordan holmes
Of you guys not doing anything.
dan friesen
Yeah, or just like you let this go for too long and now it's too big of a problem for you to handle.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry.
I understand that I'm in control of the government.
I understand that we do all this stuff.
But my hands are tied, really.
A bunch of idiots blocked the convoy and there's just nothing we can do.
What are we supposed to do?
Nothing.
Right?
Nah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
So, Alex, I'm going to skip this clip because it's just Alex suggesting that the protest should shift to being about trying Klaus Schwab and, of course, executing him for his crimes against humanity.
jordan holmes
Throw that one out there.
dan friesen
I can imagine.
jordan holmes
It's a big swing for a single protest to do.
dan friesen
Definitely.
And I think, again, this exacerbates the problem of there being really no coherent through line about what this is about.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You add in, Trudeau resign, murder the head of the World Economic Forum.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
Now, is this really the right place to be rabble-rousing to attack Klaus Schwab?
You know what I'm saying?
Like, where is Klaus Schwab currently?
dan friesen
Probably somewhere in Europe.
jordan holmes
Probably somewhere in Europe, right?
And he's usually in Europe, right?
So, I don't...
I could be wrong.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
But I don't think a few hundred people...
Causing problems at the border of Ottawa and the United States are really going to have a big effect on how Europe feels about mailing Klaus Schwab's dead body to us.
dan friesen
What if the auto manufacturers get really desperate?
jordan holmes
Oh, that is a good point.
They might have to kidnap Klaus Schwab.
General Motors.
dan friesen
General Motors.
I served under him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
If anyone could go in and get Schwab, it's General Motors.
jordan holmes
He's got the strength.
He's got the fighting force behind him.
dan friesen
I think that it is the exact audience you would want to sell this to, though.
It seems like these folks have...
They're all on board.
Great reset nonsense.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
So they are the kind of people who maybe you could get to actually cheer.
Let's get Schwab.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, no.
Everybody's embraced absurdity to the point where, yeah, why not have a bunch of people in Ottawa chanting, kill Klaus Schwab?
Why not?
dan friesen
Yep.
So Alex, he's going to take some calls, and he's called for the trucker folk to call in, but there's a little bit of a problem, and that is too many non-truckers called in.
unidentified
Ooh.
alex jones
Hey, I'm not trying to be mean here to the listeners.
I love you to death.
And normally when we open the phones up, it's just a free-for-all.
But when I specifically want to talk to a group of people in a different geographic area or a particular group that are on the ground seeing something, we need everybody not to be calling in.
Because the call screener, we don't normally screen calls other than where you're calling from and you have a good phone line.
But he does screen calls when I want it on a particular topic or a particular region.
And so we're unable to get the truckers to get through because the phone lines are all maxed out with people that are not truckers in Canada or truckers in the U.S. or truckers in Australia.
Truckers, period, that are taking part of this or your view on it.
And I want to get your quick take on the situation because...
A civil emergency has been announced by the evil globalist Doug Ford.
dan friesen
Alex has said before, I believe, that he has thousands of call lines now.
It's all digital and stuff.
The board, so maybe he's had to scale back.
But yeah, your response to that was very similar to mine.
This sounds like nobody called in.
jordan holmes
Nobody from the convoy is calling in.
dan friesen
I felt that way.
He does end up getting a couple self-identified truckers.
I think one of them was there.
Yeah, one of them was there, but then he had to leave because he had to work.
And so he's like going back and forth, like doing shifts.
That guy seemed cool.
I don't remember anything about him, actually.
Yeah, Alex has two calls that he has to get to first.
That's because they were on the line when the show ended yesterday.
And so Alex took their number and he's called them back.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
I was assuming they were still on the line.
dan friesen
I wouldn't be surprised.
Some of these weirdos.
So here's the first one.
This was worth calling back in about.
unidentified
With the World Awakening, I think it was important that we ride through momentum right now.
Take advantage of this moment.
And I have probably an idea that something everybody can do, that every listener can do, I think would be powerful and effective for us to hang banners over highways.
Imagine a giant banner that says, Alex Jones is right, InfoWars.com.
alex jones
Brother, I'm so glad you called, elaborate on this.
Yes.
Now is the time in your small town or your big city.
To write something on the bathroom wall, or to put a sign up on your barn, or to put a sticker on your car, or banner hangs over highways, and it will be a chain reaction.
Beautifully said.
What do you recommend people say on these banner hangs?
unidentified
I have a few ideas.
First of all, Alex Jones is running Google Voice.com.
dan friesen
Oh, how fun.
This is good marketing.
Although, here's the thing I love.
First of all, this is not a fresh idea.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
He invented putting banners over the highways.
I mean...
I mean, I've seen people put styrofoam cups in the fences, but that's just, that's minor leagues compared to a banner.
unidentified
This is taking it to another level.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So yeah, this is not setting the world on fire with innovation.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Also, this is something that tends to get out of hand, and people end up putting really offensive shit on those flyers.
jordan holmes
No, I've never seen a Nazi, no.
dan friesen
And then the second thing that I love about this is that this caller is saying, like, hey, you gotta put these banners up on the highway, and Alex downgrades it to bathroom graffiti.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep.
He was really willing to start from the bottom.
He was like, you know what?
I don't know if we're ready for banners yet.
dan friesen
For a good time, go to bam.video.
jordan holmes
Sir, you don't seem to even have a message to put on a banner.
That's expensive.
Get yourself a Sharpie.
Practice.
Bathroom after bathroom.
Refine your message.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The first few aren't going to be good.
jordan holmes
They're not going to have it in.
They're probably going to be too long.
dan friesen
First couple bathrooms are your open mics.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
You're trying to get the message together.
unidentified
You want to edit it down.
jordan holmes
You want to make sure you got your timing right.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
You want to come back and make sure people haven't given you notes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
Who's walking around with a red marker giving you little paragraph breaks?
Come on.
dan friesen
So, this caller Alex is pretty excited about.
He enjoys this discussion of obviously free promotion for how right he is about everything.
And so we learned that something that we have been tracking for the better part of three years is finally about to happen.
alex jones
Brother, that's why I love taking calls and why I should take more calls and why very soon we're going to start at least two nights a week and once on the weekend on top of the Sunday show, a commercial free podcast that's live.
So everybody can call in and we'll just hear from all of you amazing people.
unidentified
I'm telling you right now, I don't think it's going to happen.
dan friesen
Well, if past is prelude, we're going to hear about how it's about to start in about six months.
jordan holmes
In the weekends.
On the weekend, any moment now, you're going to start a live podcast where people can call in.
dan friesen
Yep.
Can't wait.
jordan holmes
I'm excited.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Any moment now.
dan friesen
So Alex believes that everyone thinks he's a hero.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
Because he's standing for the people who are standing up in Canada.
He's standing with the people who are against Fauci and the vaccines and what have you all over the world.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But he's not a hero.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, obviously.
But he is saying that he's not a hero.
jordan holmes
Oh.
Okay.
dan friesen
And see if you can track this, because this is like...
I found this to be incredibly convoluted.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
So think of them as like aliens, folks, that are attacking and taking over other cities and countries.
We're next!
We're next!
People ask me, like, Australians send us letters, handwritten ones, we get calls.
Wow, you're so nice, you care about us.
Well, you're damn right I care about you!
Frickin' Klaus Schwab took your country over, he's trying to take mine over!
I got children!
So, it's very important, everybody, to get this to your head.
I'm not doing this because I'm a hero.
I'm not doing this because then people think, well, that's just what heroes do.
No, it's called self-preservation.
If I see somebody on fire, I'm going to try to put them out because that's what I want people to put me out.
dan friesen
Okay.
So Alex is trying to stress this point that he's not a hero, and he's just doing what he does out of self-preservation.
Like, if they take down Canada, Texas is next.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
Obviously, this is just a preamble for a sales pitch, and it does end up coming immediately after this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it's also just inconsistent.
Alex compares the situation to how he would put out someone who was on fire, because that's what he would want someone to do for him, which is a completely different motivation than self-preservation.
Putting someone out because you would want them to put you out if you were on fire is actually a benevolent, fairly heroic act.
You might want to impugn your own motives and say you're acting selfishly because you think you'll get something out of it, but you're saving someone solely because you believe that people should help each other.
That clip legitimately would only make sense if Alex was saying that he would put someone out because...
You know, he was afraid that they might catch him on fire.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
Then it would still be premised on self-preservation.
As it stands, this is just a muddled mess.
And that is me nitpicking.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, in Alex's world, though, any kind of thing that could happen to somebody else, somebody is planning to make happen to him.
You know?
Like, him thinking about somebody just in the abstract being lit on fire.
Has this moment immediately afterwards like, and the globalists want to light me on fire.
alex jones
Of course.
jordan holmes
Exactly like that.
So I'm going to save that guy because what if the globalists light me on fire, which they're going to do?
dan friesen
Well, my feeling about it is more that he's like, all right.
I do think I'm a hero.
But I gotta make sure that people don't think I think I'm a hero, because this is leading to a sales pitch.
jordan holmes
All I'm trying to say is I do what heroes do.
dan friesen
I'm gonna say some incoherent, inconsistent shit about how I'm not a hero because it's self-preservation, and also I would want someone to put me out if I was on fire.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
Alright.
jordan holmes
Give me money.
dan friesen
So, look, I think that the language is shifting.
I've noted this a couple times on this episode, and it's because I think...
I sense this a little bit more.
There is a strain of we have won.
And now it is time for vengeance.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And that is troubling.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
alex jones
Well, that's beautifully said, but I want to be clear.
They started this war.
They killed 40 million people with starvation.
They caused millions to commit suicide or die in drug overdoses.
We're peacefully doing this.
So if they false flag or do a car bomb or shoot some cops, we know we didn't do it.
And we're not buying into it.
We're not apologizing for whatever happens.
Because they started this.
And whatever happens, no more apologies.
Not by me, by Joe Rogan, by nobody.
I pledge to you no more apologies.
unidentified
Nope.
I'm with you, brother.
dan friesen
That's troubling.
jordan holmes
No more apologies.
dan friesen
No more apologies, and they started it, this imaginary villain cabal that Alex is up against.
They started it, and they committed all these horrific, obvious war crimes, crimes against humanity, against us.
And then, if they get attacked or something, it's a false flag, so we know we didn't do it, so we have the moral authority no matter what happens, and we will not apologize.
This is all just very...
I mean, it's the kind of stuff that could be taken in a particular way.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, it seems odd considering his earlier comments would suggest that he obviously would like people to apologize to him when they are in the wrong, so it seems only reasonable that he would apologize to other people when he's in the wrong.
dan friesen
No more apologies.
jordan holmes
Well, then I don't think he's entitled to any apologies any further.
dan friesen
I think part of this might be influenced by Rogan.
Yeah.
Putting out an apology.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry for saying the N-word all the time.
It wasn't that many times.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think Alex might be having a tough time with that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think the way he's dealing with it, some people might have seen that and been a little bit disillusioned.
Maybe some people would have been disappointed in Joe.
unidentified
Alex...
dan friesen
Seems to want to do some counterproductive PR for Rogan.
jordan holmes
You know how great it is that Rogan says the N-word?
I think it's great all the time.
I don't know why everybody's mad.
dan friesen
You're not far off.
jordan holmes
Don't tell me I'm not far off.
alex jones
And you know, Joe came out.
I didn't know I was at a secret show he invited me to Sunday night.
It was in Hollywood Reporter and stuff.
That was a secret comedy show he did.
He did another one Tuesday night and said, you know, he told you what I...
You know, said on Monday, he said to everybody, he said, I am not apologizing to the big corporations, everybody that wants to take me off the air just because they're jealous.
I'm apologizing for using the N-word because if you watch that edited tape, it's hurtful the way they edited it.
And I'm saying if people think I was doing that to be mean, I apologize.
I didn't do that to hurt people.
That is not an apology.
That is a clarification to say, hey, I watched that.
It was a horrible tape the way they edited it.
And so if that hurt your feelings.
I'm sorry if you're legitimately your feelings are hurt.
Because, I mean, you do watch it, it's a little exorbitant, you know, three minutes of the N-word over and over again.
jordan holmes
Yes, that is exorbitant.
alex jones
I don't like words that hurt a class of people.
dan friesen
Alex doesn't like words that hurt a class of people.
jordan holmes
I mean...
dan friesen
That actually, I had a blurt laugh at that when I was listening to the episode.
I was like, how dare you?
jordan holmes
No, he doesn't like words.
dan friesen
That hurt a class of people.
jordan holmes
Yeah, a class of people.
A large grouping of people with a certain...
dan friesen
Let me tell you...
jordan holmes
Similar identifying characteristics.
dan friesen
Let me tell you, if I made a supercut of the times that Alex has used words that are meant to hurt classes of people...
jordan holmes
It would be a lot longer than three minutes.
dan friesen
You bet.
jordan holmes
Oh, it'd be way longer than three minutes.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is weird.
I mean, just leaving aside the fact that Joe was absolutely apologizing.
jordan holmes
Was he?
dan friesen
Whether or not it was a good apology or not is another question.
jordan holmes
I didn't watch it.
dan friesen
It was a little long.
jordan holmes
I mean, the way Alex characterized it, he is right.
That is not an apology.
To say, I'm sorry if you were offended by something I said.
That is, you made a mistake.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
I'm not.
I'm happy.
dan friesen
I am not here to...
Decide whether or not his apology was sufficient or heartfelt.
That's not a decision I'm here to make.
He did express that this word was something that I didn't realize how inappropriate it was for me to say in the context that I said it in when I was talking to my friends, talking about Richard Pryor albums or whatever, and then being like, I now realize...
That is absolutely not okay.
jordan holmes
Then that's an apology.
dan friesen
In context or out of context, it's not okay at all.
I didn't have that understanding then, and I do now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It is an apology whether or not it's good, because there's also some problems with it.
jordan holmes
I'm sure.
dan friesen
There's a little bit of dumbness.
jordan holmes
No doubt.
No doubt.
dan friesen
But, yeah, it's not what Alex is expressing.
But look, man, when Alex was growing up...
jordan holmes
He said the N-word all the time.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
No.
Nope, he never said it.
dan friesen
Andy never heard it.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out!
alex jones
I never heard in East Texas, which is the South, people use the N-word.
Because we're Christians, and anyone that uses that's trashy, and is trying to put somebody down to feel bigger about yourself.
Well, I'm not trying to put down common people, whether they be black or white.
But then when it becomes a weaponized word, people need to take it back and use it.
And that just happened with a big UFC fighter, a black UFC fighter, and he said, you know, Joe Rogan's my N-word, and I'm sick of this crap, because he understands they're using it to divide people and to control people, and it's a load of crap.
dan friesen
Yeah.
See, Alex is wanting to reclaim the N-word.
jordan holmes
You know, I've always thought...
My first thought about people whenever I've heard the N-word, how trashy that is.
I prefer a more high-class form of racism, thank you very much.
dan friesen
That was a strange way for Alex to claim that he'd never heard this word used, because he was Christian?
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And that's trashy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Strange.
I don't believe any of this.
jordan holmes
Very strange.
dan friesen
But look, Alex, when he was younger, he wore a silly shirt.
Maybe a shirt that had colors that led kids to mock him.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And he just said, ha ha.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Ha ha.
jordan holmes
He's immune to mockery.
dan friesen
Indeed.
jordan holmes
Yes, of course.
dan friesen
As so much of his career attests.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we've proven that.
dan friesen
So, look, this has to do with Joe somehow.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I mean, I remember being like...
Going to public school the first few years, and I went to private school a few years.
I remember coming back in like sixth grade to public school, and some of the flunky kids were like making fun of my shirt.
It was like pink and green kind of plaid shirt my mom would give me.
I forget the name we call it, like where it's pink and orange and red squares.
And it's like a summertime or spring shirt.
They were like, look at his weenie.
Look at his wimpy shirt.
I remember thinking, my mom got me this shirt.
I like this shirt.
I'm not embarrassed and laughing at them.
And they started laughing too.
But I mean, I guess that's just how I am.
I don't mind being attacked because it doesn't mean anything to me.
But at the same time, Joe was simply saying, if something hurts your feelings, that's okay.
I'm sorry that this hurt you.
But he's not sorry for what he said.
We'll be right back.
dan friesen
Okay, this is weird.
Like, Alex seems to be going out of his way to make a point that Rogan didn't apologize for saying the N-word over and over again on his show.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And that's strange because Joe did.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
He did release a six-minute video where he's unequivocal about how he's sorry and how it doesn't matter if using the word is in context or out of context.
It's bad no matter what.
Here is, like, the end of his apology.
joe rogan
My hope is that, look, I can't go back in time and...
alex jones
Change what I've said.
I wish I could.
dan friesen
Obviously, that's not possible.
joe rogan
But I do hope that this can be a teachable moment for anybody that doesn't realize how offensive that word can be coming out of a white person's mouth in context or out of context.
My sincere and humble apologies.
I wish there was more that I could say, but...
All of this is just me talking from the bottom of my heart.
It makes me sick watching that video.
But hopefully at least some of you will accept this and understand where I'm coming from.
dan friesen
My apologies.
jordan holmes
And much love.
My sincere, deepest apologies.
And much love.
dan friesen
He said my apologies and I had to up it at the end.
My sincerest.
jordan holmes
Sincere, deepest.
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think that there's some problems with this apology, mostly because it's not accurate to how Joe actually used the word on his show.
He claims he never wanted to be offensive for entertainment value, but I don't think that accurately holds up.
If you consider some of the times he uses fairly offensive language, it's clearly...
For the shock and offensiveness of it.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
Sometimes there's just, you know, basking and saying transgressive words, and he does not really deal with that in that apology.
And then, of course, there's a very confusing explanation for his racist Planet of the Apes story.
But that's another matter, and we talked about that clip back when Alex was using it against him during the Sneaky Snake period.
jordan holmes
Amazing.
dan friesen
When Alex used these exact attacks.
jordan holmes
So funny.
dan friesen
So funny.
When Joe wasn't letting Alex back on his podcast, Alex was pretending to be...
jordan holmes
He doesn't care.
dan friesen
So now, Alex's comments leave me with two possible conclusions.
One, Alex is making up Joe telling him that he didn't apologize, and this is Alex trying to save face with his racist slash free speech-obsessed audience.
Rogan is his means of presenting himself as relevant to the mainstream, and Rogan becomes irrelevant to Alex's audience if he backs down to pressure like this and doesn't stand up for racism slash free speech.
Alex is trying to protect Joe from the backlash that reality would cause in his audience.
Two?
Second possibility, Joe did actually tell Alex this stuff and his apology video was just bullshit that he didn't mean.
He was trying to protect the brand and not lose the Spotify deal so he did what he had to do and he made a boilerplate apology video all while reassuring Yeah.
It's strange.
jordan holmes
That is...
I mean, listen.
But semantically, that is an apology.
That's just how words work, unfortunately.
So you can't really argue with that.
So that is an apology.
dan friesen
And there is an appearance of giving some thought to it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like more than some apologies you hear.
There does appear to be...
Wrestling with some of it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it does seem, again, more like, again, we're living in different time periods, you know?
He's coming at us from 1950s men being like, if you did not know this, the N-word can be used in a hurtful manner.
Now, all of my friends and I, we have never heard of this before, but I have suddenly discovered, so I hope this can be a teachable moment for all of you out there who had no clue!
That using the N-word could be offensive.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Real shocker.
dan friesen
I do think that there are some people who may need to have that teachable lesson, and if Rogan's going to deliver it, maybe that's a way that it could get through to them.
jordan holmes
Again, that's what I'm saying, though.
unidentified
That's because they're living in the 1950s!
dan friesen
It's very confusing to me.
I don't know what it is, but it just feels like Alex trying to control Joe's narrative for him, in a way.
And I don't...
I don't know why you do that.
jordan holmes
I mean, I think because you want it both ways.
You know, you want Joe to have his Spotify deal.
You want him to continue to be in the mainstream.
And if he is in the mainstream, he has to apologize.
There's no way for him to continue.
dan friesen
But if he apologizes and it's clear to your audience, then...
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
That's trouble.
jordan holmes
So, you have to say that his apology is not an apology.
And you have to say that Joe...
And Joe will say that his apology is an apology.
And everybody is happy because the status quo is restored.
And we can do this all again in three or four months.
It's great.
Everybody wins.
The media, Alex, Joe, and the only people who lose are everyone on the fucking planet.
dan friesen
And if Alex feels the need to go back on Joe's show and Joe won't let him, he'll use these clips again in the future.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
It's a lot of fun.
jordan holmes
We get to do it all the time.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex did get a couple calls from truckers.
They were uneventful.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But he also is going to need to preempt these truckers.
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
All right, there's not much on my show that can preempt.
Awesome truck drivers and activists facing jail time and huge fines to stand up for all of our medical rights.
But I'll have to get to you next segment.
This trumps it.
Nuclear war trumps it.
It's kind of like the highest card on the deck is nuclear war.
That's like the ace of spades, and then below that you've got, I guess, the ace of clubs, is it?
jordan holmes
What is happening?
alex jones
So we're going to get to all the callers that are holding Jay in Ohio.
And Josh and Canada and Seth and Andy and Clayton and David and the order that they're received.
But I've got to go ahead and hit this.
This was already in my stack, but now there's been new developments, so...
unidentified
Here we are.
alex jones
Joe Biden already said, quote, in an interview today, that aired today, that's a world war.
And Biden tells America to leave Ukraine.
jordan holmes
That's all you need to know.
alex jones
Shoots down reports of evacuation and says we're in a war with Russia.
And that's pretty sensational, but he has a lot of trouble talking.
dan friesen
So Alex isn't taking this comment that Biden made in context.
jordan holmes
Oh, you don't think?
No.
dan friesen
This was Biden saying that he wouldn't send troops into Ukraine to rescue Americans left there if they chose to stay in the country because, quote, that's a world war when Americans and Russia start shooting at one another.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
A lot of the rhetoric flying around from the government seems a bit over the top, and honestly, I'm not sure what the exact strategy is here, but it's critical to understand that when Biden said, that's a world war...
That was being used as an explanation for why he wasn't going to do something.
jordan holmes
I do love that malicious level of misquoting.
It's just like, hey, listen, we're not going to do this dumb thing.
If we did something that stupid, that's a world war.
Quote, Biden, that's a world war!
Let it begin!
Jesus, man.
Wow.
dan friesen
So Alex is completely misreporting this comment because he's just seen the headline that says Biden said that's a world war.
He has no context for the comment, so he's telling his audience that Biden has come out and said we're at war with Russia.
And then Alex has the nerve to claim that Biden's comment was sensational when most of the sensationalism is coming from Alex's unwillingness to read.
jordan holmes
It's ridiculous.
Yeah, don't leave Ukraine.
That might be a world war.
dan friesen
I was thinking it's more like when the moon hits your eye.
That's a world war.
jordan holmes
That's a world war.
dan friesen
I couldn't come up with the second line.
Maybe we could have a contest.
jordan holmes
If you come up with a better line, please write it on your nearest bathroom stall.
dan friesen
Indeed.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Somebody go around and pick those up.
dan friesen
Alex does contests all the time.
We've never done a contest.
jordan holmes
We've never done one on a bathroom stall either.
dan friesen
Let's not have this be the first one.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
So, look.
They're starting this world war.
World war is happening.
jordan holmes
That's a world war.
dan friesen
Hey.
It's in the news.
And Alex believes that it's kind of because the trucker convoy was too successful.
jordan holmes
Yes, I'm sure, of course.
alex jones
If you put this together with all the other pieces that would take an hour to go through, I'm just going to give you the answer from my view rather than rattle off all of why I think that because it would take the whole show, what we've got left.
But here's one big slice of the equation and why we know this and why this is so bad and so horrible.
It even has me...
Having an anxiety attack right now because I love my children.
I love peace.
I love justice.
And if you think they're just going to let us beat them on this whole lockdown thing and go away, you're crazy.
They're going to start a damn war.
I just cannot believe we're this cursed.
My God.
Sorry.
Oh, my God.
These people make me sick.
jordan holmes
Oh, so real.
dan friesen
Yeah, so real.
jordan holmes
His emotion smoldering.
dan friesen
I will say that I think that this does throw him into chaos for the rest of the show.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He is fucked up for the rest of the show.
I don't know what happened, but he gets real weird.
It's been a fairly normal Alex-y show so far.
There's the ambition to talk to truckers, the call problem with getting truckers on the line.
Got a couple of them, and then we're going to preempt them because of this breaking news.
jordan holmes
There's a nuclear war.
That's a war.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
So Alex is like, I knew this was coming.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
I told you guys back in August.
jordan holmes
He's literally psychic.
alex jones
And what did I tell you back in November, October, and before that?
Hell, that was in August.
I was sitting there.
Now, I'm not going to get into the whole story, but I was told by multiple high-level sources, as high-level as it gets in the military and in corporate world.
I mean, the top that they were told January, February, all-out war with Russia.
Because all the big guys get pre-positioned.
You think Congress is involved in insider trading?
They get stuff, you know, way later, okay?
So, that's where we are, ladies and gentlemen.
You know, I hope Joel Skous is right.
I hope nothing happens here, but imagine the Russians get attacked, and then it's just the default they're lying.
No, no, you attacked yourself.
We should not just believe the Russians.
We should want to see proof.
We should have international observers there.
dan friesen
Ooh, now Alex wants international observers.
jordan holmes
Oh, we're all very interested in the UN getting in there.
dan friesen
This is some globalist shit.
jordan holmes
I can't believe that.
Get the fuck out of here.
dan friesen
Alex.
jordan holmes
Throw a baseball at him.
dan friesen
So I don't believe that Alex has any of these high-level sources or anything, but I actually wouldn't be too surprised if someone told him at the beginning of fall last year that there might be trouble with Russia in early 2022.
The reason for that is that last June, NATO had the Brussels summit, where it was reiterated that Ukraine was on the path to joining, and that there wasn't anything that Russia could do to block that process from an internal perspective.
I could see this news reaching Alex by about August through one of his associates, and maybe they would look back to 2008 when the Bucharest summit happened, and then Georgia was affirmed as being on the path to NATO membership, and then a few months later, war broke out.
It wouldn't be a terribly hard prediction to make, though I'm not 100% sure it's a prediction that will end up being correct this time.
But if you're looking at the history of this, then you could see some aggression coming from Russia in the face of one of these NATO summits, where a country where they've explicitly said they cannot join NATO is affirmed as joining.
I don't know.
It's weird, because I don't actually believe that that's impossible for someone to have...
I think it's possible.
A lot of the times, I don't believe anything he's saying.
I think he might have possibly heard this.
jordan holmes
In 2000, it wasn't like anybody had never been like, hey, I think Osama Bin Laden's probably trying to do something.
Well, yeah, because he already did, and he's that type of guy.
He's not a quitter.
dan friesen
Sure, there's patterns.
unidentified
Yeah, you can see it.
dan friesen
I'm going to skip over.
jordan holmes
That's my eulogy for Osama Bin Laden.
Wasn't a quitter.
dan friesen
So I'm going to skip over.
I'm going to be a quitter.
I'm going to skip over an interview with someone from The Rebel, a lady by the name of Sheila Gunn-Reed.
Yeah, Gunn, middle name.
jordan holmes
Born for this.
dan friesen
She's pretending to be a journalist, and she's not.
She is basically a press spokesperson for the convoy, and it's nonsense.
More important, though, Alex goes to more calls, and this guy might have broken Alex's brain.
He supports the convoys because of God.
unidentified
You know, we don't wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, you know.
I don't fear at all.
If I get arrested on Saturday, so be it.
I'm doing this for freedom at the end of the day, so I don't care at all.
alex jones
You're right, and everybody's been calling in with that quote.
I want to make a t-shirt that says, we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
I want that on the back, and then Ephesians and above it.
You know, join the resistance, Infowars.com, because this is a spiritual fight, and none of this makes sense until you realize that the people serving this are literally demonically inspired.
You look at Governor Whitmer of Michigan, she looks like a frickin' jack-o'-lantern.
She doesn't just act like one.
You can look at her and see that is a demon.
dan friesen
I gotta say, I kind of agree with Alex that none of this makes sense unless you take in all that other stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Unless you add in a...
A bizarre sci-fi mystical novel aspect to reality that is just made up as Alex goes along as he sees fit.
Yeah, none of it does make sense without it.
Yeah, totally.
jordan holmes
I mean, I hate it.
I hate it, but if that's what that guy's really all about, if he's out here fighting for freedom, then do that where a fight for freedom needs to happen.
As opposed to where some...
Asshole has lied you into believing that freedom is being fought right now.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know?
Like, what are we doing?
Either you're a giant monster racist or you're fighting for freedom.
You know?
Whatever.
dan friesen
I think it's easy to, you know, make the wrong choice on what protest you might go to.
I don't want to beat somebody up too hard for it.
But I do want to say that if you do go to any protest...
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Bad to assume that the people you're there protesting against are literal demons.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
Don't think that's going to be a productive protest.
jordan holmes
It's not going to help.
dan friesen
At that point?
jordan holmes
It's not going to help.
dan friesen
No.
So this next clip is just labeled, Alex is a lunatic.
alex jones
Anything else, Shosh?
unidentified
Yeah, you know, the truckers are heroes and everything, but...
True freedom comes in Christ.
Just remember that.
So God bless you, Alex.
Thanks for having me on the show.
alex jones
Thank you.
Absolutely.
Christ is everything, folks.
It's real.
They hate God.
They hate Jesus.
That's how you know it's real.
All over the world, throughout history, they hate Christians.
And who's going to oppose their Mark of the Beast world government?
Christians.
jordan holmes
Not according to the Bible.
alex jones
We are going to go through this.
We're going to have a toe-to-toe battle with Satan's minions.
It says, off-world.
Programming people interdimensionally.
You can't see it, but you can't see hardly anything of the full spectrum of reality.
And they're here, folks.
There's God that made the universe.
There's God's angels, God's servants.
And then there's the bad guys.
That's what we're dealing with, folks.
And they want to hurt people.
They see you as an enemy.
They're an enemy military.
That has to interdimensionally get you to kill yourself or hurt yourself or chop your child's genitals off.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
Who would come up with that?
Well, read the Bible.
That's demons.
They want to hurt our boys and girls.
It's all about hurting our children because they see that rage because there's a potential in a child to do anything.
To build a whole new universe.
I mean, we're made in the image of God.
And they see that, and they're like, oh my gosh, we don't like something made in the image of the Creator.
We're not this powerful, but we're older, and we have knowledge, so we're going to manipulate and twist this person, this spirit, into joining us.
It's the ultimate sick joke.
dan friesen
So, I mean, you hear clips like that, and it really makes you think about, like, I was scrolling around Twitter, and I saw somebody posted a clip of Tim Poole.
And he was talking about how Alex Jones is just as good of a reporter as anybody on CNN.
He's a journalist.
He's been right about all kinds of stuff.
He's on the ball.
jordan holmes
Interdimensionally, at least.
dan friesen
I just want people to own this.
If you're going to vouch for Alex, know what his fucking show is and know that what you're doing...
He's backing a lunatic fundamentalist.
I dare not even call him a Christian fundamentalist.
jordan holmes
No, absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
He wears a hat that says Christian, but his actual belief system is bizarre.
jordan holmes
He wears a tinfoil hat that says Christian.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
That's what we're looking at here.
dan friesen
Right.
And I just want people to have a better understanding of, like...
I know it's fun and edgy and you feel like you're countercultural in some way to say, like, no, actually, Alex is really good at his job.
And, you know, people give him a bad shake because of X, Y, or Z. No, no, no.
He gives himself a bad shake.
This isn't launderable.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no.
I mean, nobody does Alex more of a favor than everybody who reports on Alex and is just like...
I mean, I can't work with this.
Let's do the thing that's relevant to today.
Let's pull from his show what's relevant to today so it looks like the entirety of his show is relevant to today.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
As opposed to, let's...
Pull from the show that's relevant, and then let's pull from him decrying how interdimensional demons are going to take over Governor Whitmer's soul.
dan friesen
And have.
jordan holmes
And have, because she looks like one.
dan friesen
Right.
And the other thing, too, is that, like, I do think that none of these people actually have watched his show.
People like a Tim Pool character.
Like, if not actually engaged with the material that he's putting out, or spent the time to listen to this dogshit show.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
They see the clips that, like, maybe get posted by Right Wing Watch or something.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And they come up with a way to make an explanation for why it's not as crazy as it sounds.
Right.
Or maybe it's politically similar to something they believe about how Trump is great.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Or something.
And then it's like, you know what, Alex?
You know, he was all like Trump was right about Russia stuff.
Listen to his actual show before you get into it, because it's totally unacceptable, I think.
When you hear stuff like this, people are like, yeah, he's a good journalist.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, but it's the same thing that they do with Trump, is you create a fictional version of this person in order to serve your own purposes, you know?
If nobody on the far right is like, listen...
I understand that Trump has some problems.
For instance, he steals a bunch of money from everybody who's ever worked for him.
He steals a bunch of money from everybody who hasn't worked for him.
He takes a bunch of money from people who are murdering other people.
He's an evil guy.
But, you know, he was on TV for a while.
He's pretty good at it.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
Have you seen The Apprentice?
You gotta see it.
dan friesen
I think you could have a very similar breakdown for Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Without watching his show, you're not aware of all of those things that are the real things that you're really promoting and you're cozying up to and sort of selling to your audience in a deceitful package.
And I find that to be repulsive.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Anyway, look, the globalists are losing.
We're going to get back to spirituality here in a minute.
But the globalists are losing.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
They're losing.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, we are ahead by 50, but again, last shot is worth 51 points.
dan friesen
And they have, like, 50 different balls that could shoot into that basket.
jordan holmes
They could shoot it from anywhere.
alex jones
I could put a trillion different data points into this, and we could talk all day about those points, but just know this.
We're winning.
Things aren't going well for the globalists.
They had some contingency plans, and they kind of had it baked into the cake that we'd resist, but they are crapping their bitches right now.
jordan holmes
Crapping their bitches?
alex jones
Don't get all confident on me yet, because you know they got a bunch of tricks up their sleeves.
But as long as we know what their tricks are, cyber blackouts, wars, new viruses, currency collapses, race wars, as long as we know what dirty tricks they got up their sleeve, as long as we have solidarity as people together, For our basic human rights, they can piss up a rope.
dan friesen
So their tricks that they have up their sleeve are just about anything.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, listen.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
They are all wearing carnations.
Do not go smell it.
I will tell you right now, it is connected to a little pump.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
You're going to spray water right in your face.
dan friesen
Dirty trick.
jordan holmes
They've got so many dirty tricks.
dan friesen
It's race war, currency collapse, cyber attack.
jordan holmes
Buzzer and handshake.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
That one's there.
dan friesen
Dirty.
jordan holmes
Dirty tricksters.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I find it takes a little bit of the power out of...
Claiming to understand the enemy's playbook when it's like, well, they could do anything.
jordan holmes
They got a lot of dirty tricks.
unidentified
They could do anything.
jordan holmes
Now, I will tell you, having studied them for my entire life, they can do literally anything.
All of their powers are on blast at all times, and there's nothing any of us can do to stop it.
All right.
dan friesen
Now, we're winning, but they have a lot of tricks.
Everything.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So dumb.
jordan holmes
And I know what they're going to do.
Everything.
dan friesen
So Alex starts waxing poetic a little bit here.
I think he got into the spirit there a little bit earlier, talking about how there's the angels and all the demons and he's got to fight.
And so he starts thinking about how, like, my whole career, it was God.
God did the whole thing.
jordan holmes
Don't.
dan friesen
God did it.
jordan holmes
Don't do this.
dan friesen
He did it.
alex jones
And here we are.
And now I can look back and I can see God did every bit of this.
jordan holmes
What a shitty god.
alex jones
And the devil did every bit of it on the other side.
jordan holmes
That's not how it works.
alex jones
God and the devil are just as real as night and day, ladies and gentlemen.
jordan holmes
Well, actually, that's an interesting question.
unidentified
Night and day are fully created by ourselves.
alex jones
The supreme being that made all this, obviously.
And the bad guy.
And there's a chief bad guy.
And he's got a lot of other things that Motley Crue that goes along with his plan.
And his plan is not God's plan.
In fact, if you know God's plan, free will and empowerment and beauty and health and regeneration and honor and just goodness and discovery and creation.
Just so good.
Everything that's good.
Total satisfaction.
Just unbelievable to be in the presence of God.
jordan holmes
Definitely not.
alex jones
I've only had a few times, conscious and unconscious, sleeping to be able to actually be in God's presence.
jordan holmes
Job was in the presence of God.
alex jones
Unbelievably satisfying.
Because the Holy Spirit's just kind of catching a little ray, like God's aura.
But to be in God's real presence is like, you just want to get on the ground and lay down.
Because it's so intense, you can't even handle it.
And it's like, oh, I'm totally complete.
Everything, oh, oh.
And I'm trying to describe that feeling of completion.
Because it's not like you're in ecstasy.
It's not like you even want more or one less.
You're like, oh, this goes on forever?
This is eternity.
This is timelessness.
Oh, I can know everything now?
Anything you want to know, you can know it.
But you don't even want to know it.
You just want to go, oh, God, I love you.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
What a journalist.
jordan holmes
What a great grasp of one's own belief system and the book that it is entirely based upon.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Truly an astonishing level of understanding.
dan friesen
I think we're responding to different things here.
jordan holmes
I think so too.
dan friesen
I think you're responding to that and I appreciate it.
I'm responding to more the...
I've been in God's presence literally multiple times.
jordan holmes
But obviously.
I mean, who among us has not felt God's touch at least once?
dan friesen
I think that what Alex is describing is a little more than that.
jordan holmes
He may have had a dream.
dan friesen
I think he had a dream.
jordan holmes
I think he may have had a couple of dreams.
Maybe he did some hallucinogenics one time.
dan friesen
It's possible.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
We know he did crack on that beach when he was in high school.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
You know, as a bipolar person, I had a manic episode once when I was much younger and hallucinated the shit out of everything, and I, too, met Jesus.
Now, later on, when I was no longer in that manic episode...
I said to myself, that was not actually Jesus.
And there we go.
dan friesen
It was me.
jordan holmes
Had I gone the other direction?
dan friesen
Look at his beard.
jordan holmes
It was me.
When there was only one set of footsteps in the lies, it was you carrying me, Dan.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that, yeah, if you had just sort of...
jordan holmes
If I just leaned into it and been like, man, I really did meet Jesus, I could have run wild with that.
dan friesen
People's brain chemistry can make...
Certain experiences much more memorable and extreme to them.
And yeah, I think that's what you're experiencing here with Alex.
But I think he's nuts.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's absolutely nuts.
Because it doesn't matter if he believes what he's saying.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
If you don't believe what you're saying, you're so nuts for saying that.
And if you believe what you're saying, you're fucking nuts.
And both of those things are equally nuts.
So he's nuts, man.
dan friesen
Good reporter, though.
He's basically just like, I don't know, Stelter.
jordan holmes
Oh, Brian Stelter, too.
Jake Tapper.
dan friesen
He's like Jake Tapper.
jordan holmes
I remember Jake Tapper going into his guttural voice and calling upon the ancient gods of Sumer to smite his enemies.
But that was just like a weird day for him.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That wasn't like a regular thing.
dan friesen
Yeah, but he talked about experienced fullness when he...
unidentified
Anki Gilgamesh, I call upon the...
jordan holmes
You know, it's normal stuff.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's how he closes most of his shows these days, and we just accept it.
unidentified
It's not bad.
dan friesen
Yeah, no.
This is Alex's particular brand of insanity.
So anyway, he gets more philosophical about his religious beliefs.
jordan holmes
He's reporting on his religious beliefs.
dan friesen
Fair enough, yes.
And I think he's reporting that God created humans to destroy Satan.
I think that's what he's saying here.
I may be wrong.
alex jones
Can you imagine the people that...
Had the opportunity to be with that and decided to break with it.
Satan saw that as slavery.
Satan could build whatever he wanted, do whatever he wanted, know whatever he wanted, but he wasn't God.
Can't be God.
Isn't God.
And so Satan said, I'm going to burn this down.
God said, go ahead and try.
Oh, by the way, I'm creating all these new entities that have free will just like I did.
Little tiny versions of myself.
Go ahead and have at them.
Let's see if you can even beat my babies.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And then there comes the argument, is God the greatest sadist that ever existed?
And no, God is lonely.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
God wanted communion with us.
And so God did this thing.
dan friesen
Okay.
All right.
So God's lonely or he wanted to watch us beat up Satan.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
So I'm just going to throw this out there for people who are Christian and who listen to Alex Jones.
Just a reminder, every bit of suffering and terror and death unleashed upon this world is purely because its creator was real lonely.
So everything that you've done or ever have or ever will do is pointless, useless, and is only there to make a weird sadist happy.
dan friesen
Well, Alex said it's not sadism, so I think you're wrong.
jordan holmes
No, fair enough.
dan friesen
I think this is just sort of like a twisted and childish understanding of that idea of if there is a one solitary unity of God being, then it would want to experience itself.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
That's how fractions of it...
Become other consciousnesses.
I think that's kind of the thread he's pulling on with that.
jordan holmes
I guess, but I feel like he's pulling on it more as though God were Superman and Satan was Lex Luthor.
dan friesen
I don't disagree.
But also, God wanted his babies to beat up Satan.
jordan holmes
So God created the Justice League.
dan friesen
This is not that abnormal for Alex's show.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
That's troubling.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex understands God's plans.
And then this clip ends in a very jarring way.
alex jones
And then there comes the argument, is God the greatest sadist that ever existed?
And no, God is lonely.
God wanted communion with us, and so God did this thing.
And I agree with God, and I am thankful for God for the choice of consciousness, and I understand all the pain that comes with it, but I appreciate it, and I totally understand it.
But God is perfect, and in the perfect thought decided to do this.
But Satanists will always argue, why does your God allow death?
Why does your God allow pain?
Why does your God allow all this?
Why does your God allow...
Because we got free will, that's why.
jordan holmes
Oh, I thought it was because he was lonely.
alex jones
And you can't be given the keys to the universe until you've been tested here on Earth.
You're not going to be given all that power until you've proven...
That you're willing to get hurt for doing the right thing.
Nothing good's given for free.
Alright, let's go to the phone calls, and I apologize for making you hold.
Who's been holding the longest I've been preaching here today?
Clayton in Canada.
We love you.
You're a trucker.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
Wow.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
I thought that we had given up on the trucker protest.
Because we had moved on to deep, deep philosophical questions about the...
Meaning of life, but...
dan friesen
The nature of angels and demons.
God's supposed plans.
Nobody can pull off...
I mean, I don't think Alex did, so don't get me wrong.
I think no one, literally, can pull off that kind of a transition.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, that's not happening.
Nope.
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
Screaming about how you have to be tested if God's going to give you...
jordan holmes
And let's go to the phones!
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's clunky as hell.
jordan holmes
I wonder why Satanists are always like, oh, why is there suffering and death?
Why aren't they ever just like, oh, man, why didn't God just make a best friend, dude?
You guys could have had such great times!
You'd have been best friends, just holding hands, walking across the infinite nothingness of the universe.
dan friesen
That seems like it could have been an option.
jordan holmes
It seems like a great way to go!
dan friesen
Yeah.
But, you know, it's not good enough just to have one friend.
You need to have community.
jordan holmes
And then once you have a community, it's all fuck because the devil and shit.
There you go.
dan friesen
Yep.
Anyway, we have one last clip, Jordan.
And this is Alex describing how you gotta keep fighting.
Gotta.
The trucks?
Great.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Big fan of the trucks.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
Trucks are going well.
They're defeating the globalists.
All the COVID nonsense.
Behind us, but it's going to come back.
And also the globalists have a hundred different tricks of anything.
Any disaster or horrible thing is in the cards.
jordan holmes
And the only way to stop it is bathroom graffiti.
dan friesen
Bathroom graffiti is good.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
There are some other things you could do.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Bathroom graffiti is probably at the top of the list.
jordan holmes
It's a start, yeah.
dan friesen
It's accessible to almost everybody.
But yeah, you just got to keep fighting.
unidentified
Just got to keep going.
dan friesen
Don't get disillusioned.
jordan holmes
Give me some money.
alex jones
Things are not going the way they wanted them to, so this is a very epic moment.
And we've got to, though, reconstitute who we are.
We've got to rebuild our infrastructures.
We've got to know that we're waking up to the fight we're in, but this was just one battle that we're barely winning.
The war is going to get much more serious.
It's like a video game.
The next levels get more intense.
We get stronger, too.
And the more we wake up, the more we don't care anymore, and the more we don't have any fear.
We care about our children and our future, but we don't care about what the globalists say about us or do to us.
The stronger we get.
God doesn't give you anything you can't handle.
And I'm going to tell you, though, you're going to be incrementally challenged now.
And if you step up, you're going to be one of the people that helps take down the new world order.
This broadcast is the tip of the spear.
So I need your support, plus I've got great products you need.
Sales are going to end Monday, night at midnight.
We've got to end it.
25% off, high-quality, horrible food, ready to ship to you right now.
dan friesen
You can't even get a reaction out of you from that anymore.
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
Nope.
Nothing.
dan friesen
There wasn't even like an eyebrow rise.
jordan holmes
I said it the moment, like I said it before the clip, I was just like, give me some money.
It's just there.
It's just bleeding out of his voice.
dan friesen
Well, it's a severe call to action of you can be a part of the actual taking down to the New World Order, but the call to action is really about the sale that he's got going on at Infowars.com with all these.
Great pills and what have you.
It's a disguised call to action.
It's become a little bit too de rigueur.
jordan holmes
How is it that so many people get tricked into believing that the real way to defeat the New World Order is commerce and is not, by design, exactly part of the New World Order?
dan friesen
Well, I think it's...
At least in Alex's case, I think it's because the exact same thing of, like, why do people think X, Y, or Z is martial law?
It's because it's a feeling.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's right.
dan friesen
Selling you the feeling of fighting against the New World Order that's satisfied by supporting him.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's the marketing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and it's a good sale.
dan friesen
And it doesn't feel like commerce.
jordan holmes
Right.
Because you're motivated to do it out of the fight.
And it feels really good because you don't have to do anything.
And if you actually did go into the fight, dude, that does not feel good most of the time.
dan friesen
It probably feels good for a minute.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Then it goes downhill pretty quick.
jordan holmes
Real quick.
Real quick.
There's blood.
Nobody is like, ah, this $25.
It's gonna kill me.
No.
dan friesen
So this episode was strange, I think.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Put me in a little bit of a strange mood.
unidentified
Did it?
Yeah!
jordan holmes
I'm a little bit swimmy.
dan friesen
It's hard for me to tell because I'm running on very little sleep.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And so I'm kind of...
I'm a little frazzled, but I do think that that was a weird ride.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The...
The way with which Alex is reporting on the caravan stuff, fairly non-specifically for the most part, but selling the feeling of it being successful and taking down the COVID charade or whatever, is strange because I don't think it's a long-term solution to his problems.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I think this is a band-aid.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I think it's going to fall off before too long.
But then the way that the rhetoric is also shifting within that conversation is really, really scary.
And then his bizarre religious swing in the last 40 minutes of his show was just upsetting and strange.
jordan holmes
I feel like, here's what I'm feeling disoriented-wise.
Like, I feel like I just watched somebody try and scam me with a three-card money game, you know?
And they were moving the cards, and I got it the first time.
I was like, ah, yeah, you got that.
And then they just kept doing it.
unidentified
Not at a high level, but for a long time.
dan friesen
Like five years.
jordan holmes
Just keep moving those, just switching the cards around.
Just switching the cards around until I'm just like, I...
I don't know.
I don't know, man.
What are we doing?
What are we doing here?
unidentified
Why are you doing this?
dan friesen
I could have followed the card.
jordan holmes
I could have.
dan friesen
But I got bored.
jordan holmes
It's a long time ago that I stopped.
What are we doing?
dan friesen
Wait, am I the person doing the cards?
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Alex is.
dan friesen
I got confused.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Because I just started doing the cards thing to you.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, we'll be back.
But until then, I guess...
We have a website.
jordan holmes
Do we still have a website?
dan friesen
We do.
I was going to try and come up with something clever that sort of...
jordan holmes
We have a house of cards?
dan friesen
Wove in Alex's devil demons stuff.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
But I couldn't come up with one on the fly.
jordan holmes
Well, within a certain dimension, you could say that our website is called knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
That is true.
Interdimensionally available on the World Wide Web.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Yep.
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
dan friesen
Just in this dimension.
jordan holmes
Just in this one.
We will never go on Twitter in another dimension.
dan friesen
Well, we got kicked off 4D Twitter.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but that wasn't our fault.
dan friesen
No, it wasn't.
jordan holmes
That was censorship.
Mm-hmm.
unidentified
Because we fucked with time.
dan friesen
Cancel culture.
jordan holmes
It's at knowledge.
If I did not go to bed, Jordan.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Daryl Rundus.
alex jones
I'm a huge fan.
unidentified
I love your work.
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