Today, Dan and Jordan check in to see how Alex is doing with the news that his old buddy Stewart Rhodes got arrested for being part of a seditious conspiracy. Also, Alex gets really weird about the concept of a "prison planet." Citations
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| Welcome back to KnowledgeFight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about the young man known as Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| That's as much as I can get fancy on it. | ||
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The young man as we know, Alex Jones. | |
| That is a little bit of... | ||
| Trying to riff a little. | ||
| Not quite the intro that could cement your legacy. | ||
| Let's put it that way. | ||
| Yeah, so hey, Jordan. | ||
| Hey, Dan. | ||
| I have a question for you, sir. | ||
| Sir! | ||
| Question! | ||
| Sure. | ||
| What's your bright spot? | ||
| You go first. | ||
| My bright spot, Dan, is the restart, the new season of Great Pottery Throwdown. | ||
| You know, we've talked about the Great British Baking Show many times. | ||
| This is basically that with pottery? | ||
| The exact same thing with pottery. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And one of the judges is this guy who is an exceptional and incredible pottery maker. | ||
| Like, he's just amazing at it. | ||
| But also, he's the most overly emotional man. | ||
| He cries like... | ||
| Six times an episode. | ||
| Like, you know when Paul Hollywood gives him the handshake and you're like, ooh! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This dude uses weeping as the handshake. | ||
| Ooh. | ||
| He just cries. | ||
| And normally it would be like disingenuous bullshit, but this guy just, he f***ed. | ||
| He fucking loves pottery, man! | ||
| That's too much. | ||
| It's crazy how much he loves it. | ||
| I may give it a shot, but you're talking me out of it actively with this. | ||
| Oh, you've got to watch it. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Do they eat the pottery, then? | ||
| No, they don't. | ||
| Okay, so they don't say it's stodgy pottery? | ||
| No, no, they don't. | ||
| They don't. | ||
| But the coolest part is in the first season, there was the assistant guy who would do all the kiln work. | ||
| He would grab the pottery and then put it into the, you know, he would do the thing. | ||
| And then, at the beginning of the pandemic, they couldn't get a co-host, so they gave him the co-host spot. | ||
| Right, the assistant dude. | ||
| Diamond in the rough. | ||
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Wow. | |
| This dude's incredible on TV. | ||
| But now who puts things in the kiln? | ||
| They hired a new assistant, who happens to be a trans person, who is kicking ass! | ||
| It's amazing! | ||
| So they could hire another assistant, but not another co-host. | ||
| Look, TV is expensive. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's cheaper to hire from within. | ||
| This is confusing, but I'll give it a shot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, hey, my bright spot, Jordan, is that I feel reinvigorated a little bit. | ||
| And this is something that I can sense, I can feel. | ||
| I had a bunch of little irons in the fire that are coming to fruition down the road, and I feel alive in the work, which I've been getting a little bit frustrated for a little bit. | ||
| I feel a second wind upon me. | ||
| Also, there's something for today, and that is that I have a new technocrat drop. | ||
| Oh, we are reinvigorating. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And so, in order to get to that, let's cut this bright spot of mine short so we can say hello to some new wonks. | ||
| So first, VV, thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thanks, VV! | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, Yorkshire Stephen P. Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thanks, Yorkshire Steven. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Next, Emmerich, not Emmerich. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thanks, Emmerich. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Next, Crushing on Dan. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk! | ||
| I don't approve of this. | ||
| No more of this. | ||
| No, it can't be. | ||
| And we have three technocrats today to say thank you to in celebration of this new technocrat drop. | ||
| Yes, of course. | ||
| So first, I went on a road trip and all I got was addicted to this podcast. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| Next, Mark, but not Mark Richards. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| And A-Dan and Dad singing along to the theme song. | ||
| Dan and Jordan, I'm sweating. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| I have risen above my enemies. | ||
| I might quit tomorrow, actually. | ||
| I'm just going to take a little breaky now. | ||
| A little breaky for me. | ||
| And then we're going to come back. | ||
| And I'm going to start the show over. | ||
| But I'm the devil! | ||
| I've got to be taken over here! | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| I got plenty of words for you, but at the end of the day, fuck you and your New World Order, and fuck the horse you rode in on, and all your shit! | ||
| Maybe today should be my last broadcast. | ||
| Maybe I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years. | ||
| Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow, and you never see me again. | ||
| That's really what I want to do. | ||
| I never want to come back here again. | ||
| I apologize to the crew and the listeners yesterday that I was legitimately having breakdowns on air. | ||
| I'll be better tomorrow. | ||
| Hey, thank you so much. | ||
| I was a little inspired by a theme. | ||
| You really told a story. | ||
| Yeah, instead of picking random things that he said, I decided to... | ||
| Give it a theme. | ||
| You really gave it? | ||
| That was a whole paragraph, honestly. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And it seems like those could all be from the same episode. | ||
| Totally! | ||
| 100%. | ||
| 100% could have been every 15 minutes you just cut a different clip. | ||
| That's my favorite part about it. | ||
| It's a pastiche of a ton of different episodes where this behavior just happens to keep popping up. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over. | ||
| We're going to be talking about January 13th, 2022. | ||
| We'll figure something out for that later. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| On this episode, of course, this is the day that Stuart Rhodes got popped. | ||
| Stuart Rhodes went down. | ||
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| Got taken to the clink. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Stuart Rhodes, the leader of the Oathkeeper. | ||
| Political prisoner. | ||
| Dear, dear, dear, dear, dear friend of Alex Jones. | ||
| Best buds. | ||
| Best buds. | ||
| Guest of Alex's show for 13 years. | ||
| You would say thick as seditionists. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He got arrested and apparently an FBI raid or something. | ||
| So the situation is kind of nebulous and unclear on this episode because the news breaks in the middle of the episode. | ||
| Oh, that's great. | ||
| And Alex, spoiler alert, gets word of this because Ali Alexander texts him about it. | ||
| Because apparently Ali Alexander has the scoop. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And Alex thinks he's got an exclusive story and so he's pretty excited about it. | ||
| I think that... | ||
| Maybe people expected Alex to have a total freakout, like in our new Technocrat drop. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| He handles it shockingly well. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Which actually leads me to a theory, and we'll get to that theory over the course of this episode. | ||
| I have a feeling about... | ||
| I think he knew this was coming. | ||
| I think he knew when he showed up at work that there was a good chance Stuart was going to get arrested that day. | ||
| Yeah, I would imagine Stuart had at least a fair inkling that... | ||
| It was going to happen? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| So we start the show off, and Alex has caught wind of some chimera-related issues. | ||
| If I told you they were going to create part animal, part human clones in pigs, sheep, cows, and apes to grow human organs inside of them for transplant, you'd say I was crazy, though it was already happening before I was ever on the air 28 years ago. | ||
| And it's in the news today. | ||
| In a first, man receives a heart from a genetically altered pig that was part human. | ||
| New York Times. | ||
| If you're just listening to this show, you might think that the New York Times is reporting that that pig was the source of the heart that was transplanted. | ||
| The pig itself was part human, because that's how Alex read the headline. | ||
| Badee, badee, badee. | ||
| Why are you stealing my heart? | ||
| Alex is lying and adding things to the headline, because that's the only way he can make himself sound interesting and pass off the impression that he's always been right about everything. | ||
| The actual headline is, quote, In a first, man receives heart from genetically altered pig. | ||
| Alex has just decided that he's going to report that the genetically altered part of this headline, it means that this pig was part human, but that's just him making stuff up. | ||
| In reality, the genetic alteration that the pig had undergone was a gene editing process, quote, to remove a sugar in its cells that's responsible for hyperfast organ rejection. | ||
| This is one of the greatest challenges with organ transplanting, the risk of rejections, even though in theory, pig hearts are compatible with our bodies, generally speaking. | ||
| This genetic alteration that removes the particular sugar could have a huge impact in terms of salt the gigantic problem of organ shortages that people have when they need transplants. | ||
| Wow. | ||
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Another important thing to keep in mind is that we don't actually know how well this Just yet. | |
| The article in the AP about this notes that back in 1984, a child named Baby Faye was the recipient of a transplanted baboon heart, and they actually survived for 21 days, but then died. | ||
| So we're not far enough out from this to know exactly how well this is going to work. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| This is wild stuff, but it's not at all the kind of chimera shit that Alex talks about all the time. | ||
| He believes that there are fish with sad human eyes swimming around in tanks in the basement of a lab at the University of Austin. | ||
| That's the level of thing he needs to prove before he can claim any kind of I-was-actually-right credibility. | ||
| I'm not gonna say that I don't get where Alex is coming from, because when I hear genetically modified pig heart put into a man, I see the week before... | ||
| Whenever they went Temple of Doom on a giant pig man. | ||
| Kalima! | ||
| That's what was going on there. | ||
| I think that's how you get it from a pig man, right? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| I mean, you gotta sterilize your hand first. | ||
| Well, true. | ||
| You can't cut around it. | ||
| The skin is too thick. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I mean, look. | ||
| We know this from listening to the show. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And talking about it. | ||
| Alex has been a little bit mad recently. | ||
| What? | ||
| No argument for me. | ||
| Well, he should be mad. | ||
| But he has a reason that he's been mad that I think is bullshit. | ||
| I've been very upset the last three weeks. | ||
| And I've tried my best and I've prayed about it to not get angry. | ||
| And, you know, the biggest thing is the attacks personally on us are so over the top and so crazy that as a man, it's almost like I don't even want to address it or talk about it. | ||
| What a set of brass balls this dude has to complain about personal attacks, being that his career has essentially been made on and characterized by intense personal attacks on people based on lies and misrepresentations. | ||
| I don't care about whatever personal attacks Alex thinks he's dealing with, particularly because I listen to his show enough that I know when he says personal attacks, he means things like Sandy Hook families suing him because of his personal attacks on them. | ||
| He's a weak baby who can't resist making himself a victim of every story because he thinks that somehow proves that he's under attack because he's so right all the time and he's dangerous to the system. | ||
| This is just the performance of narcissism and consequences being misinterpreted as integrity or something. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Would you consider personal attack, like, let's brainstorm some personal attacks. | ||
| Would calling somebody a demon be a personal attack? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Would saying that their face is hideous be a personal attack? | ||
| I mean, it's certainly an insult. | ||
| Would arguing that they were perhaps a pedophile cabal member be a personal attack? | ||
| It seems like it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, I think Alex might have been guilty of his own personal attacks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that a lot of those instances that you're talking about are public figures. | ||
| And to some degree, he kind of got a... | ||
| Shake that off. | ||
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| Like Hillary Clinton's never going to really be all that concerned with what Alex says about him. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| Private citizens, on the other hand. | ||
| Big difference. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| And Alex's personal attacks on private citizens are- Way worse. | ||
| And they're legion. | ||
| There's so many of them. | ||
| Yes, that's true. | ||
| So fuck him talking about the personal attacks he has to deal with. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Don't care. | ||
| So in this next clip, Alex does something that I think his religion- Demands he can't do? | ||
| Or at least as you shouldn't. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I signed on for this. | ||
| I wanted to fight evil. | ||
| I wanted to stand up against corruption. | ||
| And so I'm actually extremely blessed and more alive than I've ever been. | ||
| I'm so alive right now. | ||
| It's unbelievable. | ||
| It's very intense. | ||
| To be somewhat aligned with God, I'll just say this more than most people. | ||
| I'm very aligned compared to the average human with God. | ||
| That doesn't mean I'm perfect or great or something. | ||
| No, I mean, I'm just dialed in. | ||
| And it's painful as hell. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| That sucks. | ||
| That's tough. | ||
| What a cross to bear. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean, you know, not literally. | ||
| He's not that aligned with God. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What a curved cross to bear. | ||
| I feel like the Bible, at least from my memory of it from growing up in the church, I feel like Jesus also isn't particularly thrilled with people who use religion as a performance. | ||
| No. | ||
| And bragging about your connection with God on a radio show is probably something that most folks would view as being... | ||
| A little bit distasteful, according to the Bible. | ||
| You know, I remember him talking something about humility. | ||
| Boy, claiming that you are closer to God than most people, I'm more aligned to God than most people, is a weird thing to say. | ||
| Yeah, it's probably exactly the opposite thing that the Bible would tell you is the sign of someone who's closely aligned with God. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| And that you would finally end that sentence with, it hurts. | ||
| Right, it hurts. | ||
| Which suggests perhaps maybe you're not that closely aligned with Jesus at all. | ||
| You know what else hurts? | ||
| The fires of hell. | ||
| I kind of see a little bit of that going on. | ||
| So it's kind of one of the... | ||
| One of the verses that this brings to mind is Matthew 6, verse 1. Later in that very same chapter, quote, And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites, for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and in the street corners that they may be seen by others. | ||
| Truly I say to you, they have received their reward. | ||
| Yeah, I think we've talked many, many a time about praying on air as being a super blasphemous thing to do. | ||
| Not blasphemous, but just like, it's something that the Bible is pretty clear about, like, you're not going to get anything for this. | ||
| Because the presentation of righteousness that you're tricking people with, that is your reward. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You have gotten it already. | ||
| You got whatever you need. | ||
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| And your millions don't hurt. | ||
| And God is not going to give you shit. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| So, what do you think, Jordan, based on our last couple years of coverage and wrestling with this, what's COVID about? | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| What's the plan? | ||
| Every time you ask me this question, I feel like I could come up with 16 different answers. | ||
| What do you think the overarching plan is? | ||
| I think the overarching plan is to replace humans with cyborgs. | ||
| We've talked about that one. | ||
| I think that's the one I'm going to go with. | ||
| That has been a plan at some point. | ||
| That has been a plan at some point. | ||
| I feel like that's the one that's the winner for me. | ||
| Not today. | ||
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Oh, shit. | |
| So, you see the folders right here? | ||
| If you're a TV viewer, you see these right here? | ||
| You know what all this is right here? | ||
| This is the declaration of war by a criminal group that has hijacked our nation and the world of exactly what they're going to do to you and me and everybody else. | ||
| How they've got the camps built, everything. | ||
| And again, it's been the training wheels we've witnessed. | ||
| With COVID, that's the smoke screen for lockdowns and checkpoints and doing what you're told, the military at the hospitals, and all of this is just to behaviorally get you ready. | ||
| With the ambient background for what's about to go down. | ||
| You're being conditioned. | ||
| You're being softened up. | ||
| So it's to soften us up for martial law. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| I thought it was to kill everyone. | ||
| Wait, so we're going to live through this? | ||
| Yeah, I thought everyone was dead already. | ||
| Everyone who's taking the vaccine is dead already. | ||
| The COVID's a bioweapon that's mutating and is going to kill people. | ||
| I don't... | ||
| This shit doesn't even make sense anymore. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, like, what you have to do is understand that this is convoluted and impossible to follow because there is no center to what Alex is preaching. | ||
| Forget about the fact that there isn't a real-world nefarious plan he's covering. | ||
| There isn't even a concrete plan that Alex has made up that explains everything that's going on. | ||
| He has to jump around from framework to framework depending on what seems useful to him that day because he's just making up this story as he goes along. | ||
| His heart and the weight of his career really drive him towards wanting to cover things as a plot to get us into FEMA camps, especially him and his buddies. | ||
| But the real good money right now in the conspiracy world... | ||
| Yeah, he's ridiculous. | ||
| He's just scrambling. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Every single word he says is on the brink. | ||
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At any moment, I might topple off this knife's edge. | |
| And depending on some headline he read... | ||
| I don't know what mood he's in, whether or not he's hungover. | ||
| You're all going to fucking die and a pig man's heart is going into your mouth. | ||
| It could be that. | ||
| It could be we're all dead. | ||
| COVID is a plan that they've had forever to depopulate the entire world so the globalists can run around in their new Eden. | ||
| That's one thing that could be the plan. | ||
| Or it could be that all of this has just been an excuse to bring in cops in the hospitals and checkpoints in order to soften us up. | ||
| So they can put us in FEMA camps easier. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No, and I know. | ||
| I get that. | ||
| But if they're not going to kill us all or replace us all with cyborgs or, like, move into armored redoubts and let everybody else die, we're doing just fine on the road to martial law without a globalist cabal. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like, the regular old folks, they're marching us towards martial law. | ||
| We don't need globalists. | ||
| I want globalists to bring the heat. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| You want something a little bit more creative. | ||
| I need weather weapons, not just the jackboot heel of the government on my throat. | ||
| Well, I think my advice for you would just be wait until Alex is in that kind of mood. | ||
| Well, that's good. | ||
| Wait until there's a natural disaster that Alex has to explain away as not being a consequence of climate change. | ||
| And then he will bring up weather weapons, and then that's the end goal the globalists have had all along. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So anyway, Alex has got stacks on stacks. | ||
| Some stackies, if you will. | ||
| The end of the American Republic is here. | ||
| Dems announced a new terrorism plan that outlaws all. | ||
| Opposition creates one party state. | ||
| Now, if you're a TV viewer, you can see the stacks I have here. | ||
| These giant five-inch tall stack right here and others. | ||
| Are there admissions on every point? | ||
| The current FBI head, the former deputy director, all of them saying, quote, all Republicans are terrorists. | ||
| All Trump supporters are terrorists. | ||
| And they've announced the new unit, the new nationwide group that's going to watch you and going to control you. | ||
| And gonna teach you that white people are bad. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
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| So the end of the American Republic, that headline that he's reading, that's just the title of the show that he's in the middle of recording. | ||
| Great. | ||
| That's the page that has the embedded video. | ||
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Of course. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So that's awesome. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| But that is kind of what he hits on over and over and over again in the beginning of this episode. | ||
| This idea that there's the end of the Republic and they're banning any kind of dissent and all this. | ||
| And it's so... | ||
| It's kind of focused in that direction. | ||
| That's what leads me to think that he knows that Stewart's going to do it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It seems almost like... | ||
| He's softing us up for the blow of, see, if they get Stewart, they're coming after you. | ||
| I very rarely see thematic coherence in this show. | ||
| And this, to me, felt like, well, this stinks of preparation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex has some other stuff he wants to talk about. | ||
| That is how he's always right. | ||
| Since I mentioned this, I noticed under hashtag Alex Jones is right, this quote by C.S. Lewis. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| This is from the Screwtape Letters. | ||
| It doesn't say that on the page, but I know it is. | ||
| I've read the book twice, at least twice. | ||
| Technically, I read it twice. | ||
| I don't listen to it on book on tape. | ||
| Technically. | ||
| But here is C.S. Lewis quotes. | ||
| Son, he said, ye cannot in your present state understand eternity. | ||
| That is what mortals misunderstand. | ||
| They say of some temporal suffering, no future bliss can make up for it. | ||
| Not knowing that heaven, once attained, will work backwards and turn even the agony into glory. | ||
| And of some sinful pleasure, they say, let me have but this, and I'll take the consequences. | ||
| This is absolutely not from the Screwtape Letters. | ||
| I was about to say there's a countdown on it not being from the Screwtape Letters. | ||
| I'm going to guess that's the only C.S. Lewis book Alex has read or listened to, since a lot of the others are pretty dense and hard to get through. | ||
| Also, some of the ideas in, like, Mere Christianity or The Problem of Pain might be challenging to digest, and I don't think he's up for it. | ||
| I guess he's probably maybe read The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, and I would guess that he thinks Aslan is a globalist. | ||
| Alex is obviously a fan of the Screwtape Letters because it's a work of fiction that's written as a series of correspondences between two demons. | ||
| Though it was written in 1942, I distinctly recall the book being very popular in the evangelical community that I was a part of in my youth. | ||
| And I wouldn't be too surprised if it wasn't a similar situation with Alex and him growing up. | ||
| It was somehow very accessible to the church communities. | ||
| Piece of trivia. | ||
| The teacher in Calvin and Hobbes, named after the Screwtape Letters. | ||
| Wormwood. | ||
| Wormwood. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| I thought it was named after the Constellation. | ||
| No! | ||
| But maybe the demon in the book is. | ||
| Also, I think that Alex, I think he read the word son there, and that's what made him think it was the Screwtape Letters, because he's forgotten that the demons in that are uncle and nephew, not father and son. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The quote that Alex is reading is actually from another of Lewis's novels titled The Great Divorce. | ||
| Also, I have absolutely no idea what this has to do with him demonstrating that Alex has been right about anything because it's under the hashtag Alex Jones was right. | ||
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| But it's kind of an indication of him being incorrect because he insists it's from a different book than it is. | ||
| Yeah, that's a little confusing. | ||
| Anyway, this episode starts out so boring that... | ||
| C.S. Lewis misquotes are where I'm at. | ||
| Yeah, that is a good point. | ||
| That is a good point. | ||
| And on a good day, we skip over him messing up C.S. Lewis. | ||
| Sometimes. | ||
| Sometimes I will view that as a waste of our time. | ||
| But today... | ||
| Today you're coming after it. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And then business picks the fuck up. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And when you realize that Earth is a prison planet, then you understand everything here. | ||
| So you think you're just here on the planet and this is all... | ||
| It's a little bit more than just a test, you see. | ||
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What? | |
| This is a prison. | ||
| This planet is purgatory. | ||
| And if you fail probation... | ||
| What? | ||
| You're cut off from God. | ||
| You're headed to the courts of heaven. | ||
| This is a place where God and the devil contend. | ||
| Because God's like, I'm going to give you one last chance. | ||
| You're now in a body conscious on this planet. | ||
| We'll see what you accept, what you go towards, but I'm going to warn you one more time, I'm cutting you off. | ||
| And then you're separate from God, and that's hell. | ||
| That really freaked me out, because it completely shattered what I thought Alex meant by prison planet this whole time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I have understood the term, like, the way I think most sane people would. | ||
| Like, it's a planet that you're trapped on, and maybe there's jail guards ruling over things like the globalists, let's say. | ||
| Life itself is a prison. | ||
| Yeah, I had absolutely no idea that this is what he meant, and now that I do, I'm struggling to grasp what it means and how it impacts his ideas and his worldview. | ||
| If what he's saying here is to be believed, then part of the prison planet actually involves us having been sentenced to being here on this prison planet. | ||
| There's something that precedes our birth that we did that was bad and required God to give us this cosmic probation on Earth. | ||
| That's pretty fucked up, and I would like Alex to explain more about this. | ||
| Yeah, I would need a lot more biblical citations for it. | ||
| I think one way to look at this is that he could be talking about original sin, but I wouldn't think that that's the case, because Alex wouldn't go along with the belief that all humans are inherently born guilty. | ||
| That would fly in the face of his steadfast belief in individualism, free will, and the rejection of guilt by association. | ||
| Like, I legitimately have no idea what he's talking about, and it's fascinating. | ||
| Like, if you die young, does that mean that you got out early for good behavior, which is why only the good die young? | ||
| Possibly. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| I mean, Janis Joplin's gone. | ||
| Are near-death experiences just meetings with the parole board? | ||
| Like, what's happening here? | ||
| There's so many possibilities for this. | ||
| Is your imaginary friend a snitch? | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| That's what I need to know. | ||
| None of this makes sense. | ||
| And if I had to guess, I really think it was just him freestyling. | ||
| That's how I heard it. | ||
| I didn't think that this was actually something he believed. | ||
| It just seemed like a case where he was talking shit, and he doesn't realize the intricate nonsense that he's implying. | ||
| At least that's what I thought until I heard what he said next. | ||
| So yeah, you little devil worshippers are going to have your victory over Alex Jones. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Alex Jones, the domestic terrorist. | ||
| Alex Jones, the evil one. | ||
| Alex Jones, the bad man, which of course I'm not. | ||
| So point your fingers, like Tony Montana says, and says, say goodnight to the bad man. | ||
| But I'm not the bad man. | ||
| I'm the guy here trying to get you to join me to get out of this together. | ||
| But alas, you're not going to listen. | ||
| And I know some of you aren't. | ||
| So you will pay. | ||
| And not by my hand. | ||
| I just want away from you. | ||
| And God has promised that if we go through this, He will separate us from you. | ||
| And so, just as everybody exits California and New York to flee the left, imagine that spiritual, energetic release of being away from them forever, and you pass the point of no return, and they're gone. | ||
| They don't exist anymore. | ||
| You have total completion, total peace with God. | ||
| You had to have the test. | ||
| You had free will. | ||
| You did some bad things. | ||
| Not in a past life here. | ||
| We don't know yet. | ||
| I've actually seen it. | ||
| I'm not going to tell you at this point. | ||
| What? | ||
| You're not supposed to know this. | ||
| But the point is, is that... | ||
| What? | ||
| We are here to be tested and to pay for what we've already done. | ||
| We're in prison. | ||
| And I'm like a trustee. | ||
| I'm like, whatever you say, just get me the hell out of here. | ||
| And that's the big truth. | ||
| I wish all of you would join me. | ||
| I don't know if you will, but I'm telling you, you're in for a lot of trouble. | ||
| Because if you think this planet's bad, if you think purgatory's bad, you ain't seen hell. | ||
| And I have. | ||
| I got a good look at it. | ||
| We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Stay with us. | ||
| Infowars.com. | ||
| Tomorrow's news today. | ||
| I'm a fucking bullshit artist. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| This guy is an asshole. | ||
| I'm starting to believe. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| I'm thinking this is starting to put everything together. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| One. | ||
| All religions are true. | ||
| All real happening all the time. | ||
| Alex is a demon who escaped from hell only to wind up on this planet, live in his demonly ways, and all he wants is to get off this rock, but he doesn't want to go back to hell. | ||
| Here we are. | ||
| This makes perfect sense. | ||
| I think it's interesting that he describes himself as a trustee. | ||
| It really does feel so fucking weird. | ||
| I don't know what's happening. | ||
| So Alex knows what got us here. | ||
| Like, why we're on a prison planet. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| But he can't say it on the radio because we're not supposed to know this. | ||
| We're not supposed to know. | ||
| Now, let me reinterpret that for you in reality. | ||
| Alex got in over his head talking about this and bragging about how he knows cosmic secrets and realized, like, I better stop this because if I say anything concrete, I can't walk it back. | ||
| No, it's going to get real weird forever. | ||
| As long as I keep it vague, I can imply that I have this magical, mystical knowledge. | ||
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Sure. | |
| But as soon as I say anything specific, people are going to have to hold me to that. | ||
| And it's something really serious to hold you to. | ||
| This is cosmic, like, spiritual reality that you're aware of. | ||
| Something that you could maybe get a little bit wrong. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It would be pretty concrete. | ||
| And you don't want to be nailed down like that because you're just making shit up. | ||
| Yeah, I'm a little bit frustrated that we can go directly from a hashtag Alex Jones was right clip to Alex Jones claiming that he has seen hell and is escaping the... | ||
| Purgatory of manhood by asking God to remove him with trusty powers. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, hashtag he was right. | ||
| Yeah, well, that's fair. | ||
| If he's right about that, you can give that hashtag all day. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| I don't know how we would ever know. | ||
| That's one of the other great fun things about this is it's completely unfalsifiable. | ||
| Yeah, we'll see. | ||
| And unverifiable. | ||
| It depends on whether or not we have near-death experiences. | ||
| I say... | ||
| Fuck you to Alex for this nonsense presentation of I know what we did in a past life or whatever. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| But I can't say it on the air. | ||
| Go fuck yourself. | ||
| I'm saying that I apologize to Alex for not recognizing he's a demon who escaped from hell and is trapped in a human body on our planet. | ||
| I do think that there's an interesting, like... | ||
| Like, movie in that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Demon trapped, escapes from hell, trapped on a prison planet of Earth. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Starts a right-wing conspiracy podcast. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| It's like the opposite of Constantine. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It'd be great. | ||
| Sad. | ||
| Sad Constantine. | ||
| God, just what the fuck? | ||
| Get out of here. | ||
| I can't believe that you would allow that to happen and let somebody record it. | ||
| And be proud of it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And get back on air the next day. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Look, most of what I'm going to say is already all over the news. | ||
| It's known, but it really hit me in the last few weeks for a lot of reasons that are just so fantastical to actually be living this. | ||
| Like, again, I remember reading Globalist Plans about social credit scores 20 years ago and how they would... | ||
| Say, oh, we're going to not let racists have health care, or we're not going to let smokers have health care, or drinkers, or people that eat too much fat, and we'll have smartphones that track what everybody does, and this will build this utopia, and of course you know it's a total nightmare, it's going to build a hell on earth, because the globalists never follow even their own rules, much less who set them up as God. | ||
| Gosh, there's so many angles to this. | ||
| There's so many angles to this. | ||
| You know, I thought about how I'm going to cover this and how I'm going to get into this a lot, because this is so important. | ||
| And then when I just get here to the point of talking about it, it's like such a big deal that talking about it almost lessens it. | ||
| Because this isn't just talk. | ||
| This isn't just something we're talking about that's about to happen like, Oh, we're about to have a hurricane hit. | ||
| Or, oh, it's about to be wintertime. | ||
| Or, oh, it's about to be summertime. | ||
| This is an end-of-civilization attack and event, and they're running around saying it openly to sell people that are going to buy into it. | ||
| And then when you say, I don't want it, they go, it doesn't exist in the same moment. | ||
| That's a minute and a half of nothing. | ||
| That's killing time. | ||
| Now, you notice that Alex, whenever he's talking about his weirdo esoteric ideas, doesn't do that, like, it cheapens it to even talk about it nonsense. | ||
| No, you would think the afterlife would be the cheapened thing. | ||
| There isn't this kind of same game. | ||
| It's usually with like, ah, shit, I don't want to get into the news because I didn't prepare. | ||
| And people, you know, they would expect me to actually know the stories that I'm going to get into. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Instead of just making shit up about how I've seen hell. | ||
| This has the hallmark of avoiding doing a book report. | ||
| Like, you know, miss, I... | ||
| Listen, I would love to tell you about The Adventures of Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn. | ||
| Well, please do then. | ||
| It's too big of a challenge, honestly. | ||
| There's so much going on. | ||
| I've written all of this stuff, but this is a classic. | ||
| It's 100 years old. | ||
| Who am I to report on a classic? | ||
| There are people who have done doctorates. | ||
| Yeah, it's interesting, really, when you think about it, how many behaviors Alex demonstrates on air that are very analogous to things that children do. | ||
| Yes, yes, yes. | ||
| There's a lot of overlap. | ||
| One to one. | ||
| So anyway, instead of getting to the news, Alex talks about a meme that he saw. | ||
| There's a profound video I'll play next hour. | ||
| That I got sent by a good friend of mine this morning. | ||
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And... | |
| It gives such context to, three weeks ago, letters through foyer requests, they have similar systems in Europe, came out in the Netherlands, where their leader of their parliament is getting orders from Klaus Schwab. | ||
| And it turns out he wrote the foreword to the Dutch version of it and promotes it. | ||
| So a member of parliament, just a few days ago, confronts him. | ||
| And tells the leader of the government, hey, have you heard of the Great Reset and Klaus Schwab? | ||
| And the guy says, I've never heard of that. | ||
| So Alex has completely bungled this story and gotten all of the details wrong. | ||
| That sounds about right. | ||
| He's doing this intentionally because that's the only way to get this story to fit into his predetermined narrative of Klaus Schwab secretly controlling all of the world's politicians. | ||
| is that this wasn't something that leaked, like the beginning, what he's talking about there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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It wasn't some kind of a Dutch equivalent of the FOIA system. | |
| An MP requested some documents, and they were provided. | ||
| These were not secret documents. | ||
| They are just invitations that were sent to various Dutch politicians to attend the 51st World Economic Forum, which is the organization that was started by Klaus Schwab, so that's how he factors into that part of the story. | ||
| Alex has reported this as the leader of the parliament getting orders from Schwab, which is a lie, and the invitations that were released didn't even include one for the head of the parliament. | ||
| Hey, why would it? | ||
| That body of government in the Netherlands is called the House of Representatives, and they don't really have so much of a parliamentary leader as they have leaders for each of the parties that are represented within the House, and there are a bunch of them. | ||
| The House does have a group in it with it called the Presidium, which includes the speaker and nine deputy speakers. | ||
| So I guess this may be what you'd call a House leader. | ||
| The speaker is currently Vera Bergkamp of the Democrat 66 party, and she wasn't one of the recipients of the invitation. | ||
| So this is a little bit murky. | ||
| The invitations went to Finance Minister Wapke Hoekstra and the former Minister of Foreign Trade and Development Sigrid Kog. | ||
| This is not weird at all. | ||
| Not in the least. | ||
| Also, along with these damning invitations, the government released some correspondences between the W, uh, Okay, so it's a deadly secret. | ||
| Terrifying correspondence because the finance person is talking to the finance body about getting finance things. | ||
| Yeah, it's a big dud. | ||
| And that's the first part of what Alex is saying. | ||
| This new thing that came out gives context to this. | ||
| And it doesn't. | ||
| So the video that Alex is covering and he's talking about was posted by a Twitter account called Ringo Lennon last July. | ||
| It was actually posted by a number of other accounts, but I chose that one because their profile image is the InfoWars logo, so I thought it was bonus funny. | ||
| Oh, I was expecting it to be the Beatles. | ||
| Alex said this happened the other day. | ||
| It happened last July. | ||
| Sure! | ||
| That's great! | ||
| It is true that this video shows a young Dutch politician named Gideon Van... | ||
| Asking Prime Minister Mark Rutte what he thought of Klaus Schwab's book, The Great Reset. | ||
| Rutte says he didn't know the book, and then Gideon produces a letter that Rutte had sent Klaus Schwab, thanking him for sending him the book. | ||
| Gideon accuses him of lying, and then the Prime Minister explains that he doesn't have time to read every book that he gets sent, and it was a polite response to Schwab. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
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Anyway. | |
| Dude! | ||
| Dude! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dude, I'm just trying to be nice! | ||
| This interaction was super popular in the dumb-dumb conspiracy world back in July, and I guess Alex just saw it and thinks it's current, or that it has something to do with these misrepresented World Economic Forum invitations that came out recently. | ||
| This is just shitty work all around. | ||
| Just nothing. | ||
| It's worse than nothing. | ||
| It's a false story. | ||
| That's the stand-up comedians the other day. | ||
| The other day, my one-year-old niece, she's six now. | ||
| The other day, whenever I wrote this joke five years ago. | ||
| The part about the Prime Minister of the Netherlands writing the foreword for the Dutch version of Schwab's book, I have no idea if that's true. | ||
| It's definitely not true from the video that Alex is citing. | ||
| It would seem odd. | ||
| Yeah, so, I don't know. | ||
| Anyway, Alex thinks he's got this scoop. | ||
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The scoop about the Dutch Parliament that happened last year. | |
| It's incredible footage. | ||
| And nobody's picked it up yet. | ||
| I sent it to Paul Watson a few hours ago. | ||
| I don't know who he wrote about it. | ||
| Did Paul write about it? | ||
| I love Paul to death, but stories I sent him he writes about are the biggest ones. | ||
| He just writes like 10 articles a day, and he like half the time won't write stuff I send him. | ||
| That's how controlling I am, and I'm in control of jack crap. | ||
| That's kind of how I want to be. | ||
| I mean, I just, people that do stuff for us, work with us, we just kind of let them do what they want. | ||
| Because we believe in them already and the work they do, and then just kind of turn them loose. | ||
| See, because I believe in free will. | ||
| I'm not like Satan trying to run every aspect of your life and watching what you're doing and see, because I got my own stuff going on. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| He's too busy to be Satan. | ||
| Wait, Satan's not trying to run every aspect of your life. | ||
| God is. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| So I think Paul probably said that he's not going to write an article about it because he probably did last July. | ||
| Yeah, that would make sense. | ||
| And Alex is like, oh my god, this just broke Paul. | ||
| This is huge. | ||
| Paul, get on top of it. | ||
| We got an exclusive. | ||
| Oh my god, I'm not going to send an email back on this one. | ||
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Oh, Jesus. | |
| Oh, I forgot. | ||
| It got lost in my spam. | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| Come on, Alex, you're not controlling like Satan, are you? | ||
| Oh, Alex, come on. | ||
| So Alex was trying to cover this end of the Republic news and how they're... | ||
| They're banning opposition, the Democrats are, and all of this. | ||
| And he kind of whiffed on it. | ||
| So he's going to try again next segment. | ||
| Oh, good. | ||
| So I'm going to try again next segment. | ||
| And this is not me here building suspense. | ||
| Who is the most important? | ||
| How do you go on air with millions? | ||
| There's a couple million people listening conservatively right now. | ||
| That's like 20, 100,000-person football fields conservatively are listening every hour. | ||
| Just on talk radio. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Because most talk shows exaggerate their audience. | ||
| I like to just say what we know absolutely is listening, not even counting the internet streams or later stuff or Bandai video. | ||
| You know, that's millions overall each day. | ||
| But right now on talk radio, there's over 2 million people listening to me. | ||
| I don't say like, man, I'm this big guy. | ||
| I'm up here. | ||
| I got 2 million people. | ||
| Well, look at these football fields of people. | ||
| 20 football fields of 100,000 people. | ||
| I'm Alex Jones. | ||
| I got a big audience. | ||
| You need to listen to me. | ||
| No, it's the opposite. | ||
| I'll walk up to this giant audience of the humongous, just endless crowds of people listening and watching right now. | ||
| And I don't choke up because the audience is so big. | ||
| I'd choke up because it's so bad. | ||
| That if I don't come up with words to describe just how damn evil this is, I'm lying to you. | ||
| People always, oh, Jones exaggerates. | ||
| Notice you don't hear that anymore. | ||
| That was always the thing for 20 years. | ||
| Oh, he exaggerates. | ||
| The last five, six, seven, you don't hear that anymore, do you? | ||
| No. | ||
| I'm fine to say that he exaggerates and also lies a lot. | ||
| Yes, I would argue he lies more. | ||
| This is just more killing time. | ||
| This is so stupid. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| Also, it's good that he's not bragging about that audience. | ||
| That he's absolutely exaggerating. | ||
| So if I understand correctly, just on terrestrial radio, there are millions of people listening to him. | ||
| Including his streaming numbers and his downloads, that means that he conservatively has twice the audience of Joe Rogan. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, easily. | ||
| So I assume that Joe will be coming on Infowars to start getting more viewers. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean, we do know that a couple years ago he did cut an ad where he said that conservatively 10% of the world listens to this show. | ||
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Yes, he did say that. | |
| He did say that, yes. | ||
| Nothing could even come close to his ratings. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Yeah, this is stupid. | ||
| I would guess that maybe, maybe... | ||
| Two million people live within the range of the stations that play Alex's show on the radio. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| It is possible that we're a lightning strike to knock out every other form of entertainment available to people within this radius of space. | ||
| I would be surprised if any but the fringiest of fringe radio stations carried his show anymore. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Any of those stations that like maybe played him like on rebroadcast, like on the late shift. | |
| Sure. | ||
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Like a coast to coast. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I imagine those people have gotten... | ||
| Cut the cord. | ||
| It'd just be so funny if the local NPR Chicago affiliate just was like, we're going to play an hour of InfoWars every day. | ||
| We just have to. | ||
| Well, it's tomorrow's news today, and what are we going to do? | ||
| Play another All Things Considered? | ||
| What are we going to do? | ||
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So today we're going to switch things up just a little bit. | |
| On Sunday, we're replacing Garrison Keillor with Alex Jones. | ||
| No more Lake Wobegon, I'll tell you that. | ||
| Oh man, God, that'd be beautiful. | ||
| Here, the men are really strong, women are above average. | ||
| Wait, the children are above average. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| The women are strong, the men are something, and the children are funky, whatever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So yeah, Alex has got a giant audience and things are bad, so he feels a real responsibility. | ||
| So he gets back and I don't think that he actually gets to the news. | ||
| Now, I have stacks of incredible news, each article more insane than the next. | ||
| Like the announcement, the Biden administration has been illegally keeping a list of un-quote vaccinated people and putting in a database that they're now announcing they may come door-to-door and forcibly inject you. | ||
| That's mainstream news. | ||
| Just like denying white people monoclonal antibodies is mainstream news. | ||
| Mainstream. | ||
| So this is yet another story Alex is completely misreporting based on misreporting done by other sloppy blogs. | ||
| This is a story that traces back to the Daily Signal, which you can judge as a media outlet by the fact that one of their featured news categories listed on the homepage of their site is Critical Race Theory. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's an indication that these folks really aren't reporters and they're more of shitheads. | ||
| Yeah, that type of website is like, oh, we need to hire somebody for just our... | ||
| Jews segment. | ||
| Like, oh no, oh boy. | ||
| We have like seven people on the critical race theory beat. | ||
| Alright, whatever. | ||
| So this article was published on January 11th and appears to have been written by two fellows at the Edwin Meese III Center for Legal and Judicial Studies at the Heritage Foundation, which means they're cool. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're reporting on an announcement that was made by the pre-trial services agency in the District of Columbia, who are going to maintain records on employees that have religious exemptions to taking vaccines. | ||
| If you go and you read the posting in the federal registry, it's very clear that this is an administrative decision and it only applies to the employees of this agency. | ||
| They have the ability and the authority to do this, and there's nothing weird about this at all. | ||
| However, the Daily Signal reports this very suspiciously, saying, quote, From there, the article is pretty dumb and boring. | ||
| But using this article, other outlets start to play a little game of telephone. | ||
| On the 12th, the Citizen Free Press published an article with the headline quote, Biden is quietly creating a database of the unvaccinated, which is a mischaracterization of their already dicey source. | ||
| After that, Alex gets his hand on it and, you know, becomes mainstream news, admitting that Biden's creating lists of unvaccinated people so he can come to your house and force you to take a shot. | ||
| Sounds right. | ||
| This is the pathway that bullshit Alex reports typically goes down. | ||
| There's something that's not really that controversial that's the primary source, which gets covered by a group of shitheads who sensationalize it. | ||
| And then that sensationalized article is covered by even more disreputable outlets who slap a dishonest headline on it, at which point Alex reads the headline. | ||
| This is the quality of information you get with someone like Alex. | ||
| His work is just completely meaningless. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I feel like the Heritage Foundation is the world's largest per capita maniacal laughter factory. | ||
| Like, after every evil thing they do, I expect them to be like... | ||
| They run on blahs. | ||
| Like, non-stop. | ||
| Like, oh, look at what I've just written. | ||
| So, as for the white people can't get monoclonal antibodies thing, that's actually way messier on Alex's part. | ||
| This traces back to a video of a person going to a COVID treatment tent and trying to get monoclonal antibodies but being told that he apparently can't get them, but he could if he were black or Hispanic. | ||
| The video is shoddy, and it's not very clear, and it's definitely missing context, but that's what it appears to show. | ||
| I left out one important detail. | ||
| The person in that video trying to get the antibodies is Infowars employee Harrison Smith. | ||
| Oh, well, there is that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There is that. | ||
| When Alex says that the mainstream media admits that white people can't get monoclonal antibodies, he means that Tucker played the video on his show the night before and intentionally edited out the part at the end where the healthcare workers tell Harrison that he can't get the treatment, quote, because of a lack of underlying health conditions. | ||
| Tucker did a painfully racist segment based on this manipulated video that was produced by an InfoWars reporter without disclosing that he's an InfoWars reporter. | ||
| He's just a guy, man! | ||
| Just somebody trying to do a junior varsity... | ||
| Project Veritas bit. | ||
| That's fucked up. | ||
| It is. | ||
| That really needs some sort of intervention. | ||
| If Tucker Carlson is playing an InfoWars video on his fucking show, exposing that many people to it. | ||
| Without any kind of awareness that this is a reporter for InfoWars. | ||
| That's fucked up. | ||
| He has a chyron where they're playing the video, the source of it. | ||
| It's like, at Harrison of Texas or whatever his Twitter handle is. | ||
| And then his slug for where he works is futurenews.news. | ||
| Which I guess is another one of the redirect URLs that Alex has to Infowars or band.video. | ||
| That's fucked up. | ||
| It is. | ||
| Has anybody... | ||
| It's intentional masking of where you got this information from because you know it would be suspicious. | ||
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Yeah, absolutely. | |
| We got this from an Infowars reporter. | ||
| Yes, it would look really, really bad for Tucker if he was trying to carry off this very racist segment. | ||
| And, like, pointing to an InfoWars. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| That is horrific! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I'm sure it's pretty par for the course for Tucker. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| So some of the other stuff I've covered in this episode is really bad work, like the Dutch Parliament thing. | ||
| This isn't bad work. | ||
| This is actively malicious. | ||
| There's no way that Tucker doesn't know that Harrison Smith works at InfoWars. | ||
| There's no way whoever put the piece together didn't know that the nurse explains why he can't get the treatment and decided to cut that part out so they can push their racist narrative. | ||
| And Alex knows that Tucker... | ||
| Tucker is reporting this story based on his employees' bullshit, but still re-reports it as the mainstream media admitting you can't get antibodies if you're white. | ||
| These are all intentional acts, and they're designed to elicit a certain reaction in the audience, and that reaction drifts pretty much all the way into white nationalism. | ||
| These people don't actually think that white people can't get monoclonal antibodies, but pretending that they do think that is the most effective way for them to pass off spreading their racist messages, and they can still hide behind being offended if someone suggests that they're racist. | ||
| They're like, oh my god, what? | ||
| I just, that's so fucking... | ||
| That should be on every news station, right? | ||
| Like, Tucker Carlson plays InfoWars clips. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just, like, non-stop. | ||
| Yeah, Tucker Carlson, what would it be, whitewashes or tries to Trojan horse InfoWars content? | ||
| Deceptively edits an InfoWars video to make his InfoWars point to you. | ||
| That's, I mean, that's, how can you get away with that? | ||
| They won't allow Alex Jones' name to be spoken in a positive way. | ||
| Yeah, and clearly someone at Fox News knew that in the chyron, putting Harrison of Texas or whatever, Infowars.com would have been a problem. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And that's why they do what they do. | ||
| That should be picked up way bigger. | ||
| That's such a fucking blatant example of everything. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fuck me. | ||
| It shows a lot of intent. | ||
| I want to start a riot that's so bad. | ||
| So Alex gets into what I think is the... | ||
| The meat. | ||
| The meat. | ||
| That he's been putting off. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Maybe he's been putting it off because his lawyers have told him, don't talk about this. | ||
| The Arby's lawyers? | ||
| Again, I am very blessed and honored to be here with you today. | ||
| And I have had lawyers and other people basically ask me not to get into this. | ||
| And in respect to them, I went around them so they wouldn't be involved and reverse engineer, but I already knew. | ||
| I guess you'd call that a parallel construction if you were in the Justice Department. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I don't need to even tell you what's personally happened to us because I have it all reverse engineered right here and these stacks I'm about to cover, but this is really bad news. | ||
| This is like 50 mile an hour winds in Northern California and a big fire coming and in an hour your town's going to burn down. | ||
| Get what you got, get what you care about, get out, get on the highway and drive south. | ||
| This is not, I'm not happy up here telling you this, okay? | ||
| And believe me, I'm in this with you up to my eyeballs. | ||
| I'm in this deeper than probably anybody out there, other than like Trump, who they hate, but who doesn't understand his real power. | ||
| So this ties into all that as well. | ||
| But also, why did Trump trigger them so bad? | ||
| I thought you don't like him anymore. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| So, Alex beats around the bush and is really bad at... | ||
| Getting to the point, but his point is he has done a parallel construction and figured out that the FBI has a counterterrorism investigation open into him and that the army is involved or something. | ||
| It's a wide-ranging conspiracy that he's got. | ||
| And I think a lot of his support for this, the evidence, is that some of his vendors have told him that the FBI has asked them questions about their relationship with him. | ||
| I don't know if that's true or not. | ||
| Alex has extrapolated that out into, I have an anti-terrorism investigation, there's FBI agents following me everywhere, they've tapped all my phones, all this. | ||
| And I think some of this is, like I said, because he knows that Stewart's going to get arrested. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. | ||
| I think some of it is pre-preparing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so he talks a little bit more. | ||
| A lot of people have been arrested, and maybe Alex is going to be next. | ||
| So here's where we are. | ||
| What was it, eight months ago, the FBI came, and Sam Montoya was not here at the office. | ||
| And then they later SWAT teamed him with like 20-something officers at his house, a guy with no criminal record, because he was there as a journalist videotaping what happened inside the Capitol. | ||
| And then you all know, I guess it was four months ago, Owen Troyer got arrested and indicted for attacking the Capitol. | ||
| He never won the Capitol. | ||
| That's not what he got indicted for. | ||
| Parole violations. | ||
| So yeah, you got this sort of preamble of, yes, Sam Montoya got in trouble because he videotaped himself doing plugs for Infowars while breaching the Capitol. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Owen got in trouble because he had a deferred judgment. | ||
| From the last time he got in trouble, and then he didn't do his community service, so he was in violation of that when he was at the Capitol. | ||
| I mean, it's all just like, he's trying to build this up as some kind of, they're targeting us specifically. | ||
| There's very clear reasons why people got in trouble that did, and other people didn't. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because they were filming it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But really, it's an attack on white people. | ||
| Yes, that's true. | ||
| And in the cards they brought to Owen, in the cards they brought to Sam, it says FBI counterterrorism. | ||
| And you know, they said it was a counterterrorism investigation, and you know the FBI director said the main terror threat is the American people and white people. | ||
| Imagine, black people are the number one terror threat. | ||
| That'd be wrong and not true and terrible, but white people are? | ||
| Historically. | ||
| Let's deny them the monoclonal antibodies while we're at it. | ||
| What an incredible crime they're committing. | ||
| And I mean, I don't want to be enemies with McCabe. | ||
| I don't want to be enemies with Ray. | ||
| I don't want to be enemies with these people. | ||
| They are enemies of this country. | ||
| So, this is all just an attempt to foment more feelings in the audience that white people are under attack. | ||
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Yep. | |
| That's about all that's going on here, but I have some great news for Alex. | ||
| He doesn't have to worry about Andrew McCabe because he retired from the FBI in March 2018. | ||
| I was gonna say, that made me really uncomfortable. | ||
| I was like, wait, did I forget? | ||
| Did I miss something that big? | ||
| No, it's because he just has a couple names that he remembers. | ||
| Right, from Comey and McCabe. | ||
| Those are the only two. | ||
| From yelling in the past. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And Christopher Wray might actually be troubled because he is still head of the FBI, but he should be cool, right? | ||
| Trump appointed him. | ||
| He's a Republican. | ||
| He should be cool, man. | ||
| No, he's been overtaken by the deep state because he did something I don't like. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But if he does something I like tomorrow, he's actually secretly working against the deep state with Trump, who is still the president. | ||
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Yep. | |
| It's pretty... | ||
| I mean, it's clear. | ||
| It's cut and dry. | ||
| Yeah, it makes total sense. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| So Alex's lawyers have been talking with the January 6th committee, apparently, and this might be some of the stuff that Alex's lawyers didn't want him to talk about. | ||
| So imagine in my life, I'm sitting here now with my lawyers and people talking to the congressional committees that are just the sideshow of what the Justice Department's doing, telling them that I'm a domestic terrorist, | ||
| and they want to charge me with material support of terrorists, the Patriot Act, for organizing all those rallies around the country and the peaceful ones in D.C. that led up to January 6th, where they hijacked our event. | ||
| I mean, we're as innocent as the driven snow when it comes to wanting to attack the Capitol. | ||
| Why the hell would I want to screw up us trying to investigate an election peacefully and go to prison? | ||
| The January 6th committee can't charge Alex with any crime like that. | ||
| That would be the responsibility of the Department of Justice, which the committee is not just the public face of, regardless of what Alex might think. | ||
| I suspect that he thinks that it is because in his ideal version of politics and the government, it would be. | ||
| While Trump was in office, Alex would have loved committees investigating Hillary's emails or Benghazi to just summarily arrest her. | ||
| He wants that kind of abuse of power to be directed towards his enemies, so he imagines that everyone else is behaving the same way when they're not. | ||
| That said, like I said earlier, this is probably what Alex's lawyers don't want him talking about. | ||
| And I doubt that it's because it's actually what the committee is saying, but because he might be in hotter water than it seemed before. | ||
| So this is the day, like I said, this is the day that Stuart Rhodes' news of his arrest broke. | ||
| And I want to make a bit of a retraction on some of the things that I've said before on the show. | ||
| I've been of the opinion that Alex is kind of grandstanding about his concern about the January 6th committee, and I don't think he's in actually any trouble. | ||
| But after reading Stuart's indictment, I want to walk that back. | ||
| I think Alex should be super scared right now, but I still haven't seen any evidence that he could be arrested for active participation in the very clear conspiracy that Stewart and the other Oath Keepers are charged with. | ||
| It's a very clear conspiracy, though, and we know how close Alex and Stewart are and how the two of them promoted the January 6th rallies together and they did damage control together afterwards. | ||
| I don't believe that the two of them weren't in contact with each other on the 6th. | ||
| I don't believe that at all. | ||
| But I just don't know the nature of that contact or any of how it went. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I thought Stewart himself was in the clear because I assumed that he would have maintained a safe distance from incriminating conversations that are maintained in writing. | ||
| But now that I've seen the evidence in the indictment... | ||
| Insane! | ||
| I know that's not the case. | ||
| Insane! | ||
| Stewart is completely fucked. | ||
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You guys were doing a leaderless resistance so you didn't get into this situation! | |
| That's the point. | ||
| That's the whole idea! | ||
| Not knowing what evidence exists of contacts between Alex and Stuart makes it difficult to gauge how worried Alex should be right now, but on the scale, I think it goes from super worried to skipping the border level worried. | ||
| Also, it's hard to tell, but I think that there's a part of me that wonders, like I said, if Alex knew ahead of time that Stuart was going to get arrested. | ||
| It felt like... | ||
| I don't know how to describe this exactly. | ||
| It didn't feel like Alex learning something on the fly. | ||
| No, I mean, but that's normal for these types of high-profile stuff, right? | ||
| Like, the people, like, Roger Stone, when he got popped, was like, he knew they were coming. | ||
| He didn't know the day or when, but he was like... | ||
| I know I'm going to be hit by this eventually. | ||
| Yeah, I would think that in these kinds of cases, it's rarely a flash raid or something. | ||
| And I think that based on what I've heard of Stuart's lawyer... | ||
| That is probably some kind of an indication that they knew ahead of time. | ||
| And that information could have gotten to Alex. | ||
| But like I said, one of the feelings that I get about him knowing is he usually blows up about stuff. | ||
| He can't handle incorporating new information on the fly, whereas this is how he learns. | ||
| We've got some big news that's going to break next segment. | ||
| I'm still going to analyze this and get a little bit more before I announce it, even though it looks like it's confirmed. | ||
| But it fits him with the theme of the show today. | ||
| This is how he's dealing with one of his best friends getting arrested for a conspiracy to storm the Capitol. | ||
| He's heard behind the scenes from Ali Alexander, it turns out, that Stuart Rhodes has been arrested. | ||
| And he's like, well, we got big news next segment. | ||
| It kind of fits in with the entire theme of the show. | ||
| That is not how Alex does this. | ||
| It's so weird how well it fits in within the theme of this show. | ||
| This doesn't feel right to me. | ||
| No, this is a scam. | ||
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It just doesn't... | |
| I can't put it any more succinctly than, like, he loses his shit. | ||
| When there's a tech problem, he storms off air. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is a guy who doesn't handle bad news well. | ||
| No, and far beyond, you know, we're in different stratosphere of awareness of a man's mood when it comes to having listened to thousands upon thousands of hours. | ||
| You've got me beat. | ||
| And if somebody can say... | ||
| Honestly, I know that he's acting out of character for him. | ||
| I'm pretty sure that's you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It smells. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So, he doesn't get to the news right away because he wants to announce that Klaus Schwab needs to fight him. | ||
| Sure! | ||
| Criminal corporate interests engage in a criminal, illegal, hijacking, hostile takeover of the government and our systems. | ||
| And they've stolen all the money, and instead of going to jail for the Ponzi schemes, they just plan on poisoning and sterilizing us and getting rid of us. | ||
| Wait, now they're doing that too? | ||
| Oh, let's demolish the old garage and put a pool in back here, except I'm not a garage. | ||
| I'm not here to be demolished because you just, oh, I don't like these ugly neighborhoods, and I don't like those kids, those, you know. | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| You want to kill me? | ||
| You're going to have to fight me. | ||
| See how that works, Klaus Schwab? | ||
| You don't just do a little Jedi mind trick over here and convince me to go crawl over in a ditch and die. | ||
| You want war? | ||
| You got it. | ||
| And Klaus Schwab's like, join us. | ||
| You're with us. | ||
| You see it. | ||
| We need you. | ||
| You people give me creepy feelings. | ||
| That's it? | ||
| I'd rather get killed or put in prison than hang around with you jerks. | ||
| Hey, you guys give me the willies. | ||
| Hey, you guys that I have accused of orchestrating a decades-long plan to commit genocide. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're a bunch of jerks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Bunch of jerks killing everybody. | ||
| What a bunch of weenies. | ||
| Just a bunch of losers. | ||
| Yeah, I had the exact same response that you did, too. | ||
| It's like, wait, wait, wait, wait. | ||
| They're killing us off now? | ||
| Now they're adding that in? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Huh. | ||
| Weird. | ||
| Almost like nothing means anything. | ||
| Pretty much. | ||
| Anyway, Alex finally does get the go-ahead to announce that Stewart has been arrested. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| And here we go. | ||
| It's beginning. | ||
| Okay, this just broke 20 minutes ago from phone calls we got. | ||
| Now it's in the New York Times. | ||
| So we're going to go ahead and go with it. | ||
| It doesn't mean it's happened for sure, but 99% chance it has. | ||
| And we have the lawyer that was on the phone with Stuart Rose when he got raided by the FBI, reportedly, joining us next hour. | ||
| And Ali Alexander as well, and Attorney Norm Pattis, was also here on the same subject of the takeover of America via the National Security State Patriot Act, which we always knew would be used against the American people. | ||
| It is the Patriot Act. | ||
| Domestic terrorism is to attack Donald Trump's base. | ||
| That's why they rhyme. | ||
| Domestic terrorism, Donald Trump, DT. | ||
| What? | ||
| It's not rhyming. | ||
| That's bananas. | ||
| I don't know what's going on anymore. | ||
| Don't ever say that to me again. | ||
| But what a cast of losers. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| Norm Pettis and Ali Alexander coming up. | ||
| We don't really have any exposure to Stewart's lawyer, Jonathan Mosley. | ||
| So, you know, who knows? | ||
| Maybe he's a great guy. | ||
| He's not. | ||
| But the other two. | ||
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Whoa! | |
| Whoa! | ||
| Top luminaries in their field. | ||
| You hate to hear it when those are the guests that are coming up. | ||
| No, no! | ||
| No, no. | ||
| You want the best of the best. | ||
| And when it comes to being a shithead and being a shithead lawyer, you don't get better. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So I will say that I think that Alex is pretty good at coming up with a narrative like that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So he's learned that Stuart Rhodes has been arrested, and he gets defensive. | ||
| About other people thinking that Stewart was a Fed. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that was what a lot of people in the fringe right-wing communities were saying because he hadn't been arrested. | ||
| Because he hadn't been arrested. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so they're like, well, he must be a Fed. | ||
| He's a snitch. | ||
| He's the one who got everybody. | ||
| And so Alex focuses on that and then comes up with another story. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And again, I've never said Stewart Rhodes was a Fed. | ||
| I've known Stewart Rhodes 13, 14 years. | ||
| Clearly, feds could infiltrate a big group like Oath Keepers, and he would get pissed if he said that. | ||
| But, I mean, that goes on. | ||
| So that's where we had some friction. | ||
| But I've never said that Stewart did that. | ||
| I was wondering why he hadn't been arrested. | ||
| But it doesn't matter. | ||
| He's a distraction from Ray Epps, folks. | ||
| He's been arrested because it came out in Congress, and Ted Cruz talked about it, and now the head of the January 6th committee... | ||
| The head lawyer was in Twitter. | ||
| In fact, Owen had it last night and asked the crew for it and then they said, "Owen's got it and I never got it. | ||
| Can I have it?" The head of the Jan 6th committee lawyer said, oh, Ray Epps didn't go in the building. | ||
| Well, why is Owen Schroyer charged then? | ||
| I can clear that up. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Owen got arrested because he, you know, he was, by being there, he was in violation of deferred judgment from a previous case because Owen failed to complete his community service. | ||
| He violated an agreement that he entered into willingly to avoid consequences for his past actions, and that's why he's in trouble. | ||
| Do your fucking community service, you asshole! | ||
| It'd be nice. | ||
| So this Ray Epps conspiracy is the new preoccupation. | ||
| The FBI released an image of him as somebody that they were looking for information on. | ||
| Then, he didn't get arrested, and so the crack sleuths in Alex's community have put two and two together to prove that he's a fed, and he was the one secretly running the operation. | ||
| This is stupid, and if this logic holds, then I guess Jay Johnston was also there under FBI deep cover. | ||
| Oh my god! | ||
| As far as I know, he hasn't been arrested. | ||
| They got him for Bob's Burgers! | ||
| So, this narrative around this keeps shifting because people like Alex are just throwing out whatever thin bullshit they can, hoping to buy some time and create distraction from the reality that his friends and close associates planned to and followed through on, bringing caches of weapons to the Capitol that day in an explicitly premeditated plan to stop the certification of the election results. | ||
| First, it was a nebulous, unnamed Antifa and BLM folks who were dressed like Trump supporters who must have done it. | ||
| Then it was clearly John Sullivan who was the ringleader. | ||
| And now we've gone through a couple more iterations of this cycle, and Ray Epps is the new sacrificial lamb for the right-wing media. | ||
| They're hoping it'll stick, and it'll just be, we'll figure out another guy down the road. | ||
| Man, reading that indictment, having... | ||
| Clear text messages from Stuart Rhodes like, Hey, I love that you're bringing weapons to overthrow the government, friends. | ||
| We will have a quick response force in place. | ||
| This is a great opportunity to overthrow the government, everybody I'm in a conspiracy with. | ||
| Hey, on the way to the Capitol from Texas, I'm gonna buy tens of thousands of dollars worth of weapons and accessories. | ||
| Oh my god! | ||
| What a fucking bad criminal! | ||
| Yeah, it's very sloppy. | ||
| That's bad. | ||
| So without any actual evidence, this guy Ray Epps has been blamed for running a false flag coup on the Capitol by people like Charlie Kirk, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Matt Gaetz, and Ted Cruz even got into the act after he was roundly humiliated by Tucker Carlson for not being in line enough with the extremist wing of the party. | ||
| As it turns out, this is really simple, and the explanation for the removal of Epps' picture from the persons of interest list is that they just no longer had any questions they needed answers about from him, since the investigation had progressed and they'd got the information they needed. | ||
| There are a bunch of other examples of people whose images have been removed, and not all of them are because they were arrested. | ||
| This isn't a unique case. | ||
| Epps is absolutely not a Fed, and he wasn't running any false flag. | ||
| He was, however, previously the head of the Arizona branch of the Oath Keepers. | ||
| He was interviewed by the January 6th committee, and this baby should be put to bed, but it probably won't be anytime soon. | ||
| Because their high-profile media figures are really closely connected with people who are charged with a seditious conspiracy, There will be targeted campaigns against anyone, even former leaders of Stewart's own organization, if it can help build a narrative where folks like Stewart and Alex are really the victims in this whole thing. | ||
| It's sad and honestly really dangerous. | ||
| I can imagine that Ray isn't feeling very safe right now, seeing as a not insignificant number of heavily armed lunatics think he's responsible for setting a trap that took down the Patriot leadership and thus the country. | ||
| Now look, I think that Ray Epps is probably not a great dude. | ||
| I would assume not. | ||
| But this is bullshit. | ||
| And the way that he's being put up and people in the Congress are trying to use this as a smokescreen to excuse the behavior of people who are right-wing extremists on the 6th. | ||
| He's a private citizen. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This is unacceptable. | ||
| Well, what you're forgetting is that this... | ||
| The whole thing was also funded by billionaires, and there are members of Congress in the conspiracy as well. | ||
| So, I think we're going to find that you can put a lot of money towards fucking up a private citizen's life with no consequences for it. | ||
| It's just... | ||
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| I mean, look, I never want to be in the position of, like, defending a former Oath Keeper who was part of the events of the Sixth, for sure. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But this kind of behavior is so dangerous. | ||
| Well, I mean, it's not so much defending him as refusing to allow a scapegoat to be put in place. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Like, fuck you. | ||
| You don't get to get away from this one. | ||
| Even though you have several billion dollars. | ||
| So anyway, Stuart's not a Fed. | ||
| I just always found it hard to believe that Stewart was a Fed. | ||
| But Ray Epps definitely has, I mean, he's definitely being protected. | ||
| And so Stewart's been arrested because the Ray Epps heat got too hot. | ||
| If you want my analysis... | ||
| That's what's going on. | ||
| So yeah, this is essentially the narrative that Alex is going to run with, and that is that Ted Cruz got out and he started questioning about Ray Epps, what's going on with this guy, and then the heat got too hot so they had to take Stuart Rhodes. | ||
| Yeah, that makes perfect sense. | ||
| I mean, it probably plays with the audience, but it's very stupid. | ||
| That's bad. | ||
| Alex makes a little bit of a tactical error, and that is that he starts saying a bunch of things that really, really make Stewart sound guilty. | ||
| Oh, that's not good. | ||
| Like this. | ||
| I interrogated Stewart on air months and months ago about stuff, and he got so pissed at me because it was a taped show. | ||
| I just decided most shows aren't taped, like 9% to 5%, but we taped a show on Saturday. | ||
| He got so mad at me even asking questions that I just didn't even air it because He made him look guilty as hell. | ||
| And I was just like, wow, why are you flipping out? | ||
| Probably because he's guilty. | ||
| I don't think Stewart's a fed. | ||
| But I'm trying to understand stuff. | ||
| I'm asking real questions here. | ||
| And he flipped out on me. | ||
| And was like, I'll kick this person's ass. | ||
| I'll kick that person's ass. | ||
| And I'm like, listen, dude. | ||
| Boy, I hope that tape doesn't get subpoenaed. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Just revealing the existence of that is a smart move. | ||
| A tape where Stuart completely freaks out on Alex about questions about the sixth. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| This is why the globalists are such shit is because they're the imaginary enemies of people who are like... | ||
| Fucking stupid! | ||
| This is terrible! | ||
| Yeah, I think that Alex should have known better than to grill Stuart Rhodes. | ||
| Ask any difficult question to this guy after the 6th. | ||
| I don't know why he got mad when I asked him direct pointed questions about his involvement in the 6th. | ||
| Well, I think that the question... | ||
| Obviously, he never put this out, so I don't know what he said in it. | ||
| But I think that the presentation that he's trying to make is that... | ||
| The pointed questions and the grilling were about him being a Fed. | ||
| But I also think that any of those questions would touch on things that would be really tough for Stuart to answer. | ||
| Prove you're not a Fed. | ||
| Well, I tried to overthrow the country. | ||
| Ooh, that's not good. | ||
| I don't want that on tape. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm going to have to ask you not air this. | ||
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| Please don't air this. | ||
| So, look. | ||
| I can't stop loving how innocent it looks for you to say, also, I have a tape where he answered questions that makes him look very guilty, that I didn't show you. | ||
| And I'm not going to show you now, because I don't want you to think he's guilty, which he definitely isn't, and that's why I can't show you this information. | ||
| It probably, you know, like, this tape, it's probably Ray Epps' fault. | ||
| Think about the level of conspiracy he would make if somebody else was like, oh, we've got a tape of Hillary Clinton looking real guilty describing how she wasn't on Epstein's island. | ||
| And then she flipped out. | ||
| And then we didn't show it, and we got rid of it. | ||
| She freaked out. | ||
| She was so mad. | ||
| Threatening to kick people's asses. | ||
| Beating the shit out of people. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Nothing suspicious there. | ||
| I feel like, Alex, if ever I were in trouble, I would not want him defending me. | ||
| I would not want him doing PR for me, because he's going to end up accidentally, or maybe even... | ||
| Listen, I can't reveal your source on this. | ||
| It's Donald Trump Jr., but I can't reveal anything about this. | ||
| Holy shit, this is bad. | ||
| Wild. | ||
| So anyway, he also says some other stuff that sounds a little iffy. | ||
| There were a bunch of health keepers there that day that thought they were under secret command of Trump for the Q stuff that went into the building. | ||
| And I don't think Stuart was part of that. | ||
| You can easily have people join a huge group like that with tens of thousands of members and infiltrate it. | ||
| So I just didn't get why he didn't just say that was wrong and say it was improper. | ||
| He was like, well, it's a good thing. | ||
| This government's bad. | ||
| Remember up front he was saying that. | ||
| I'm like, oh, no, it's not a good thing. | ||
| At this point, Alex should be putting the pieces together about this obvious puzzle. | ||
| He hasn't read the indictment, so he hasn't seen the concrete evidence of Stewart's direct involvement with these allegedly delusional Oath Keepers who thought they were under the orders of Trump, so I'll accept that he's still trying to spin this as best as he can. | ||
| But that part about how Stewart wasn't denouncing the Oath Keepers who went in, that makes a whole lot more sense now in hindsight. | ||
| He was hanging strong with them because he knew that they had concrete dirt on him. | ||
| He would get arrested for a seditious conspiracy if they put this dirt out, so he wasn't about to hang them out to dry and risk them talking. | ||
| The stuff that Alex is saying fits incredibly perfectly with the set effects where Stewart was running a group of people who were planning to disrupt the certification of the election results by storming the Capitol if it came to that. | ||
| That's why he blew up at Alex when he was questioned about things on that show. | ||
| That's why he didn't turn on the arrested Oath Keepers. | ||
| Alex is making a compelling circumstantial case that Stewart is guilty as hell. | ||
| This is not good. | ||
| You know, I asked him to say that it was a bad idea, but he wouldn't. | ||
| He said that he loved it and it was a great idea and that he wished that he was the one. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| So this seems really sloppy and shit, but I still think this fits into the notion that Alex knew in advance this was going to happen. | ||
| Oh, totally. | ||
| Because I don't think he would prepare that well. | ||
| No. | ||
| This is still the kind of thing you'd expect him to be rambling about. | ||
| And look, hey man, this is still just cover for Epps. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I think he's a true believer that's been set up this whole time. | ||
| If I had to go with my gut, and that's why he's been arrested, not Ray Epps. | ||
| So we should support Stewart and worry about Stewart and really be concerned here because Stewart's a very smart guy, but he's also extremely romantic. | ||
| He's a romantic. | ||
| And for folks that don't know, they're new listeners maybe, or public school educated like myself, a romantic doesn't just mean like men and women kissing each other. | ||
| Romantics are into romantic stories and fighting and sacrificing yourself. | ||
| I'm a romantic. | ||
| But I'm also a realist romantic in that I'm not going to let my romance with humanity and my romance with being a hero not let me get my full potential. | ||
| I'm not going to be played. | ||
| And I warned Stuart over and over again that he was infiltrated years ago. | ||
| I love the idea that Alex is prefacing that with, like, if there's any new listeners, let me explain what romantic means. | ||
| Like, this is something that we go over a lot. | ||
| Well, this is lore. | ||
| Okay, this is from our earlier episodes on Infowars when I explained what a romantic was. | ||
| I don't expect new listeners to catch up. | ||
| This is so dumb, man. | ||
| Like, I'm not sure how the facts of this case, like, as laid out in the indictment, could possibly be a cover for Ray Epps. | ||
| Alex didn't even know that Ray Epps existed until the right-wing social media decided to blame him recently. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| This is a little while back. | ||
| He came into everyone's mind. | ||
| Also, I get the sense that Alex is maybe making some of the same calculations that Stewart did when Stewart didn't abandon the arrested Oath Keepers. | ||
| Stewart's been coming on Infowars since 2009, and it's about 13 years of the two of them being associates. | ||
| And I wouldn't be too surprised if Alex didn't want to run the risk of Stewart telling some tales about him. | ||
| Maybe about Alex's finances, or the way the show runs, or how little he cares about the audience and the things that he says. | ||
| It kind of feels like there's something, because if you're in the clear, now is exactly the right time to pretend you've never met Stuart Rhodes, and anybody who says that you are friends with him, they're floating a raft of dirty lies around. | ||
| It's the easiest thing to do right now. | ||
| Stuart is fucked. | ||
| Half of all of Alex's audience already thinks he's a Fed. | ||
| And this Ray Epps nonsense might be playing on the social media right now, but it's not going to work for the long term. | ||
| Uh-uh. | ||
| Overcommitting to this is a bad idea. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Just saying, fuck Stuart Rhodes. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| No consequences. | ||
| You know, the thing is, when he says his lawyers say, they're looking into me for material support for terrorism, it's hard not to think, maybe he gave Stuart some money. | ||
| And then we're in real trouble there. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Even if he didn't know what it was for, if Stewart took money from him and then went and bought guns and put him in that cash, that's hard to... | ||
| Yeah, I would wonder about that. | ||
| I think there's an outside possibility, if that's correct, but also I would wonder... | ||
| If Alex was giving him money money. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| I'm saying that that's such a thing that you wouldn't even, you know? | ||
| Well, I mean, definitely Alex allowed Stewart to have airtime to spread conspiracy theories. | ||
| Airtime is worth money. | ||
| Was he recruiting? | ||
| You know, all of that stuff. | ||
| That's all I'm saying. | ||
| Well, I mean, knowing what we know now about Stewart's actions that day, the notion that Alex... | ||
| Allowed him to come on air and create a false version of what happened in order to cast aspersions on his own guilt. | ||
| Provide material support. | ||
| I don't know if it rises to the standard of evidence needed for that, but it's an interesting question. | ||
| And I'm not throwing any conspiracies out there, and I'm not saying that it did happen. | ||
| I'm just saying that once Stewart got really popped for this, that's a different story now. | ||
| I wonder, it kind of feels to me less like Alex is worried about criminal exposure by way of Stewart, and more about, like, he knows a lot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He knows a lot about my shit. | ||
| And then also, like, I can't imagine if you're Stuart Rhodes being like, let's loop Alex in on this. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| We have this military unit that we're going to have weapons caches and stuff. | ||
| Let's tell the guy who can't keep his goddamn mouth shut about anything that is on air for hours a day. | ||
| Let's go ahead and tell him, let's loop him in on comms. | ||
| I highly doubt that. | ||
| Yeah, but you know, thinking back to that time, there was quite a bit of chatter from him, and it's the same stuff that it always was, but like, you know, eh, whatever. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| I think it would be... | ||
| We'll see what happens. | ||
| I think it would be the world's worst idea to... | ||
| It would be a terrible idea. | ||
| ...to tell Alex. | ||
| But look, man, Stuart's a romantic. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Puts guns in caches. | ||
| I think Alex is too. | ||
| Because God is my witness, and I've done this a few times, people have seen it on air, but this time I didn't do it. | ||
| I intended to come on this show today and say, I don't think Stuart Rhodes is fed. | ||
| I think he's been misguided. | ||
| I'm just really worried about Stuart Rhodes. | ||
| I woke up at like 3 in the morning last night. | ||
| I had a dream about Stuart Rhodes last night. | ||
| God is my witness before God on my children. | ||
| And I had a dream about Stuart. | ||
| You know, these dreams were all foggy, but he was key, and I wanted to love him, and he wasn't bad, and I'd been wrong, even though I hadn't said it on air. | ||
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| What is happening? | ||
| I need to reach out to Stuart and get him on air, but Stuart's a jerk and arrogant, and he'll think you're just manipulating him, and he's paranoid, but that I need to reach out to Stuart. | ||
| And here we are. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Okay, so Alex had some dreams about Stuart Rhodes the night before, and he meant to start the show talking about that. | ||
| So amazing. | ||
| I think he might be psychic. | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| I think he's a demon from hell who's wearing the skin of a human being. | ||
| He's so psychic after the fact. | ||
| It's weird how psychic he is after the fact. | ||
| Really, really good at that. | ||
| So, Ali Alexander comes on, and we do learn over the course of their conversation that he is the one who got in touch with Alex and told him about this. | ||
| But Ali's dumb. | ||
| To talk lightly about Stuart Rhodes' arrest... | ||
| You know, I wanted you to be the one that broke the news. | ||
| One of my attorneys, I have four, was on the phone with Stuart Rhodes while he was getting arrested on a case not related to mine. | ||
| And look, there's a lot of questions that I think that Stuart Rhodes needs to answer. | ||
| Look, real quick, that means that they have the same lawyer. | ||
| That means that Ali Alexander and Stuart Rhodes both have Jonathan Mosley as their lawyer. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Before the American public. | ||
| But every American... | ||
| It's presumed innocent, okay? | ||
| Absolutely presumed innocent. | ||
| And my question for the FBI is, is this raid from pressure from congressional Democrats to elaborate on conspiracy charges, to paint the entire Republican Party as a conspiratorial, seditious, you know, paramilitary, which we're absolutely not. | ||
| Ali Alexander seems to not understand that any searching that went on after or along with Stewart's arrest wasn't a fishing expedition. | ||
| They already had all the evidence that was presented in the indictment, which is... | ||
| Plenty to charge him with and arrest him. | ||
| If I had to guess, there may have been a quick search or a raid done because one of the charges Stuart is looking at is for destruction of evidence. | ||
| So it could have been helpful to make sure he doesn't have the opportunity to destroy anything else. | ||
| Yeah, that would make sense. | ||
| I know it sucks for these guys that the facts that are coming out and the basis for the investigations actually being revealed, it has the effect of completely deflating the fan fiction they've been selling their audience this whole time about the 6th. | ||
| I know that sucks. | ||
| That's tough, and it's probably even more so for Ali, considering that he's deeply involved in planning the rally at the Capitol, and the fact that most of the real hardcore right-wing folk probably think he's a fed or a snitch because he agreed to testify before the January 6th committee, it's gotta suck for him. | ||
| But the reality here is that Stuart's arrest and the information that was made public because of it completely demolishes any of the nonsense arguments Alex and Ali have made about the storming of the Capitol being an orchestrated false flag by Antifa and the Deep State. | ||
| Continuing to pursue the conspiratorial narrative is going to force people like Alex to come up with ever more complicated explanations for the new information that comes out, demonstrating that right-wing extremists planned, organized, and carried out the events of January 6th for the purposes of disrupting the transfer of power. | ||
| Of course, they can't really do the opposite either because that would require them admitting that they were either knowingly or unknowingly part of that plan, which would tend to look bad and put them in a corner. | ||
| Wouldn't be good. | ||
| I would guess that Alex is going to soon do the move where he transitions into a new narrative, where he says something like, we know who staged the Sixth, but we need to move on from that because the midterms are coming up and the globalists are going to steal them. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| We're going to focus on something else. | ||
| We're going to be like, hey, let's not re-litigate the Sixth. | ||
| Yeah, I imagine Tucker's documentary is not going to be updated. | ||
| I doubt they're going to be like, hey, listen, we're going to have to issue corrections on this. | ||
| I'll tell you what, we have got a laundry list of things we need to do. | ||
| We're wrong about a lot of stuff, and it might have been on purpose. | ||
| That might conveniently just be taken off. | ||
| They might talk about it. | ||
| Not more. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| So, look, man, Stuart's a romantic. | ||
| So, you know, while there's a temptation on some of the right to just throw Stuart Rhodes, you know, down the barrel, and then there's a temptation to act as a reactionary. | ||
| My God tells me Stuart's innocent. | ||
| It always has. | ||
| I think he's a romantic. | ||
| We know Ray Epps is the guy. | ||
| I've read those texts, man. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, and that's another good question, is why is the J6 committee so hell-bent on clearing Ray Epps' name when he's the only one on camera caught violating the law? | ||
| I can sort this out for Ali. | ||
| The reason that the January 6th committee is tweeting out that they interviewed Ray Epps and that he isn't a Fed is because you and all your shithead friends are insisting that he is and that he caused January 6th. | ||
| That would make sense. | ||
| They're investigating the events of that day, and Epps is someone who was there and is someone who was on tape saying inciting things the night before, so he was a person that they thought they might want to talk to. | ||
| Maybe he had some information. | ||
| That'd be helpful. | ||
| They interviewed him and it turns out he didn't, so they put out a statement that they interviewed him and that the allegations about him aren't true. | ||
| This is a great example of a right-wing media rhetorical trap. | ||
| The January 6th committee did this and they're being criticized for it. | ||
| Why are they so eager to clear this guy's name? | ||
| It's suspicious. | ||
| However, if they didn't interview Epps, Ali would just be saying, why did they refuse to interview Epps? | ||
| If they interviewed him and then they didn't put out a statement, Ali would say, why won't Mm-hmm. | ||
| There isn't any actual interest in the things that are happening in reality. | ||
| There's a predetermined narrative, and facts and events have to be presented to the audience through the filter of that narrative. | ||
| Instances like this question Ali is asking are telltale signs of people who aren't operating from a sincere position who you should never engage with. | ||
| You're never going to convince them of anything because they don't care about reality. | ||
| Also, what Ali is saying about Epps being the only person on camera doing anything illegal is absolutely a lie. | ||
| There are a ton of people who are on camera assaulting police officers, breaking Capitol windows, and other property. | ||
| What he's saying is just absurd. | ||
| Ray Epps also didn't do anything illegal on camera. | ||
| There's a 45-second video that has made the rounds all over social media where he's talking to another guy the night before and he says, quote, I don't even like to say it because I'll be arrested. | ||
| I'll say it. | ||
| We need to go into the Capitol. | ||
| If Ali thinks it's illegal to say that, he has a poor grasp on free speech. | ||
| And if that standard is universally applied, everyone he knows would be in Oh, yeah. | ||
| It's dumb, and it's an indication that he's probably a shithead, but if Ali thinks it's proof of a crime, he needs to go take a high school-level civics class. | ||
| I wonder how Alex is going to feel about his gut prediction after he reads the indictment. | ||
| That gut prediction that Stuart's innocent and all that? | ||
| That's not going to be a good one. | ||
| Actually, I don't really care, because I know he's never going to read it, and he's just going to keep pretending that there's no evidence against Stuart, and he got jammed up to cover up for reps. | ||
| It's all bullshit. | ||
| So, Ali has been on, and now Alex gets Jonathan Mosley, Stewart's lawyer, and apparently Ali's lawyer as well, on. | ||
| And it turns out, like, I don't know if he understands free speech either. | ||
| I'm going to ask the question again. | ||
| Why isn't Ray Epps arrested? | ||
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There's no good reason for it. | |
| There's like, you know, even if he was just being a dumb, you know, No one else? | ||
| No one else. | ||
| I don't want to wish anybody to get arrested. | ||
| Please understand me. | ||
| But in terms of the government's behavior, it just stinks to high heaven. | ||
| It doesn't. | ||
| It doesn't stink to high heaven. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Nothing that is in that tape of Ray Epps is illegal. | ||
| None of it is proof that he is a leader of a seditious conspiracy. | ||
| But the actions taken by Stewart, as illustrated by the evidence of that indictment, show a different picture altogether. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I just can't think of anybody else who could have led any sort of conspiracy. | ||
| Beyond this person who the right wing has just decided is a great patsy. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it's... | ||
| It's underbecoming for this lawyer to be acting like this, too. | ||
| You would need some sort of massive cache of text messages or evidence in order for me to believe that somebody else could have led this. | ||
| Especially somebody's client for the incredibly talented Jonathan Mosley. | ||
| Maybe something that's like 48 pages long or so. | ||
| Quite a long one. | ||
| So, this... | ||
| Lawyer, I got, you know how Alex says he gets bad vibes from the globalists? | ||
| I get bad vibes from this dude. | ||
| Creepy feelings. | ||
| Yeah, and I don't care, because most of his defense is just like, everything is a lie! | ||
| Yeah, they did it! | ||
| I didn't do it! | ||
| He didn't do it! | ||
| Everybody's fine! | ||
| It's just empty proclamations of everything is a lie and I can prove it, and then no proof presented at all. | ||
| Well, it's not the court. | ||
| Right, and so... | ||
| I'm not going to spend much time talking about him because his interview is actually short and boring. | ||
| But we do have to recognize something very important. | ||
| And I don't think anybody can deny that Biden and the Great Reset and the COVID BS and all of this is bad. | ||
| I mean, my God, Joe Rogan was a mainline liberal. | ||
| The system got so bad, he woke up. | ||
| Same thing with Tucker Carlson. | ||
| Join Joe Rogan. | ||
| Join Alex Jones. | ||
| Join Tucker Carlson. | ||
| Join everybody else that just wants to have a good future for our children. | ||
| I think you could make something of an argument that Joe Rogan had a sort of Democrat vibe earlier in his career. | ||
| You know, I think you probably could. | ||
| Maybe you could say that he was a mainline Democrat who took copious amounts of drugs. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Tucker? | ||
| No. | ||
| No. | ||
| He was a professional piece of shit, right-wing asshole. | ||
| He was on Hardball as the Republican. | ||
| As the Republican. | ||
| Who wore a bow tie. | ||
| He was on Hardball as William F. Buckley Jr.'s fucking mini-me. | ||
| Yeah, he staunchly defended the Bush administration's war on terror and the war on Iraq. | ||
| Alex, I think it's fun to say, like, Tucker was just a regular liberal and then he got brought over. | ||
| I think Alex actually can defend that in his mind, because he thinks that neocons are liberals. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| So that I think he could defend, but it's total horseshit. | ||
| Everybody who didn't try and overthrow the Capitol is a liberal in his world. | ||
| Well, I mean, to him, based on his extreme right-wing politics... | ||
| Everybody's to the left of him. | ||
| Relative to him, Tucker, even in, like, 2004, was a liberal. | ||
| I mean, you could probably argue now he's... | ||
| I don't know, they're pretty similar now. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| So anyway, Norm comes in. | ||
| Norm Pattis! | ||
| I think the last time I saw him, he had a gigantic, ridiculous beard. | ||
| But he's shaved. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| But you know what else? | ||
| Like, he's getting angry. | ||
| I think that there's a... | ||
| I don't think his stand-up career is going that well. | ||
| I think that there's a trend with Norm that I find upsetting, and that is every time I hear him, he's angrier. | ||
| I watched last night for the first time Merrick Garland's speech about January 5th or 6th. | ||
| I thought he was unhinged. | ||
| Shut the fuck up! | ||
| I thought he was giving a raw deal when he wasn't set for the United States Supreme Court and thought they at least ought to have voted up or down on him. | ||
| But when I watched him quaking in his loafers in rage, I thought there's something wrong with the man and there's something wrong with the country. | ||
| We also said five police died. | ||
| Well, you know, but here's what he said. | ||
| Here's what he said about the law. | ||
| What he said about the law is whether if you contributed knowingly or unknowingly to events that led to violence, you are a co-conspirator. | ||
| That's simply wrong. | ||
| You are not a co-conspirator in a crime unless you engage self-consciously, deliberately, for unlawful purpose with another and agree with another. | ||
| So Merrick Garland didn't say that five officers died on January 6th. | ||
| He said, quote, five officers who responded selflessly to the attack on January 6th have since lost their lives. | ||
| Alex is lying about what Garland said in order to be able to call him a liar. | ||
| And Norm isn't really doing much better. | ||
| Merrick Garland said nothing even close to what Norm is claiming in the speech that Norm is claiming to have watched. | ||
| This is just entirely made up, as is the characterization of Garland as quaking in his loafers and rage. | ||
| I can't find another instance of Garland saying that, like, in another speech. | ||
| If someone else has a citation, go for it. | ||
| But, Norm, if he wants to clarify where this came from, I... | ||
| I'm not gonna try and hunt this down. | ||
| I read the transcript of the speech that he's referring to, that Norm's referring to, and based on that, he's just making shit up to be mad about. | ||
| Stupid. | ||
| All I needed to hear from him is that casual, nonchalant... | ||
| January 5th or 6th, I don't remember which... | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| You remember goddamn well. | ||
| No, it's because when was the speech? | ||
| The speech was the night before. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So I think that's what he's referring to. | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| In fairness. | ||
| All right. | ||
| But look, man. | ||
| I think Norm might have enjoyed the sixth. | ||
| I think he might have been into it. | ||
| I think this is the great lie on the American people. | ||
| I mean, for Kamala Harris to stand up in front of the nation and say, January 6th was like, you know, September 11th was like Pearl Harbor. | ||
| No, it wasn't. | ||
| January 6th was like 1776. | ||
| It was like Lexington. | ||
| It was like Concord. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait, wait. | ||
| when the people wake up and think enough to appear at a public place and demand answers, Congress ought not to react by investigating the people. | ||
| They ought to look in their own henhouse and say, what are we doing wrong? | ||
| Yeah, man, when Stuart Rhodes and his militia decide that they're going to get weapons caches and then try and storm the Capitol in order to stop the counting of the votes in the Electoral College, you know what Congress should really Yep, yep. | ||
| Look, I'm not saying the Congress doesn't need to make some changes, but that's a ridiculous thing to say. | ||
| Listen, I know that nobody in our far-right movement would do this. | ||
| It's got to be Antifa who is leading it, who is instigating it. | ||
| Now, obviously, in retrospect, I view it exactly the same as the American Revolution. | ||
| Notoriously peaceful American Revolution. | ||
| Much like Lexington and Concord. | ||
| So peaceful. | ||
| I think... | ||
| I think one of the problems with this show and the community around it is they can't even get their stories straight. | ||
| No. | ||
| Alex probably wouldn't want him saying something like that because that's kind of complicated to work in with the other stuff. | ||
| Your lawyer just said he was hoping that the far right would begin a revolution. | ||
| That's your lawyer! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Interestingly, if you pull up the indictment, Stuart Rhodes, one of the things, one of the messages he sent on the 6th, as things were grown down, he said, quote, Hey, the founding generation stormed the governor's mansion in Massachusetts and tarred and feathered his tax collectors, and they seized and dumped tea in the water. | ||
| They didn't fire on them, but they street fought. | ||
| That's where we are now. | ||
| Next comes our Lexington. | ||
| It's coming. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It seems like Norm might be... | ||
| Wow! | ||
| Pretty close in spirit. | ||
| Just real guilty, all these folks. | ||
| Just real guilty! | ||
| Just so fucking guilty! | ||
| What a mess. | ||
| Lying to our fucking faces. | ||
| So, I think that even Norm is smart enough to recognize that there is a threat to his client's ability to operate. | ||
| There is a threat that the world will start looking at... | ||
| People like Alex, people like Stuart, as they are, as opposed to, like, ah, let him be. | ||
| People will recognize the danger that folks like this present. | ||
| It used to be more of a headache to engage than not to, and now it's starting to look like we better engage before it becomes too big of a headache. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And so, Norm, in order to sort of deflect from that, he has to mischaracterize... | ||
| Why Stewart got arrested? | ||
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| Well, you know, I mean, basically, it's an attempt to criminalize ordinary behavior, and it waters down the conspiracy requirement to almost meaningless dimensions. | ||
| If, in fact, agreeing to go to a protest and agreeing to stand outside to try to delay Congress from doing something or a federal agency from doing something or trying to hinder them from doing something, that expression of protest is now considered, under this precedent, sedition. | ||
| You notice how the people who were just standing outside and protesting, like all those hundreds and thousands of people, they weren't arrested for a seditious conspiracy. | ||
| I did notice that! | ||
| Yeah, it's interesting. | ||
| It's also weird how Norm is completely ignoring all the parts in the indictment where Stewart and his buddies make weapons caches and start up quick response teams to bring guns to the Capitol. | ||
| So weird that they're pretending that Stuart didn't discuss how he and others might have to, quote, take to arms in defense of our God-given liberty. | ||
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| So weird that it doesn't come up that a person with Rhodes messaged their group chat during the storming of the Capitol and said, quote, we are acting like the founding fathers, can't stand down, per Stuart and I agree. | ||
| This is just such bullshit of a move for Norm to get on this show and pretend that all Stuart did to get in trouble was to go to a protest with some friends that ended getting up a little out of hand. | ||
| This is such cowardly and a deceitful way to present this information, and he knows what he's doing. | ||
| He's a shitty lawyer, but he's still a lawyer. | ||
| He knows what he's doing. | ||
| No, that should be disbarment level of bullshit right there. | ||
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I think he should have been disbarred from being on air with Alex when he threatened Chris Metty. | |
| Totally, 100%. | ||
| I want this head on a pike. | ||
| A million dollars. | ||
| Alex, no. | ||
| Please don't do this. | ||
| But this is... | ||
| You know he's read the indictment. | ||
| No, he's been clear about this. | ||
| Yeah, you know what he is doing is lying on air. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He is not not lying. | ||
| No, no, there's no way you can tell me that you think he made a mistake or left it out on accident. | ||
| I don't believe that. | ||
| Yeah, you know he's a lying person who went on the airwaves to lie specifically. | ||
| Intentionally. | ||
| Don't let him be a lawyer anymore! | ||
| So look, Norm thinks that this is the end of protesting. | ||
| Now protesting is going to be illegal. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds true. | ||
| Alex thinks something a little different. | ||
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But they have been making it very difficult for us to get documents. | |
| We're spending months just trying to get... | ||
| Yeah, well, basically they're hiding a needle in a haystack. | ||
| And they'd never be permitted to do that in a civil case. | ||
| Well, they're building this constellation of FEMA camps and arrests and solitary confinement and disappearing and how to block lawyers and how to block judges. | ||
| They're just building the beginning of their martial law takeover. | ||
| So I guess COVID's not going to kill us all again. | ||
| We've gone back and forth zigzagging throughout this episode. | ||
| I guess it's back to martial law because that's more relevant to the Stuart Rhodes talk. | ||
| I hate it whenever he has this kind of guest on because he just winds up... | ||
| It just sounds like they're two dudes getting drunk at a bar talking about politics they don't know anything about. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Also, pretty... | ||
| Bold to complain about not producing documents on the Alex Jones show. | ||
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Well, well, well. | |
| But he just lost a bunch of cases by default judgment for Discovery. | ||
| That's because they were in the stacks. | ||
| I couldn't find them. | ||
| That actually might have been a legitimate argument. | ||
| If Alex was like, these five-inch thick stackies. | ||
| Do you not understand how many stackies I have here? | ||
| I can't go through all of them. | ||
| Look, I wanted to print out the documents to give you, but I ran out of toner. | ||
| Too many stacks. | ||
| The toner's expensive. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So here's just a clip of Norm being a dum-dum. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, I mean, the narrative now is the following. | ||
| If you complain about something and you happen to be white, you're a white nationalist or you're a white supremacist. | ||
| I'm neither. | ||
| I happen to be a white misanthrope. | ||
| I don't trust anybody, much less the government. | ||
| Sure, they're trying to change the subject of a multinational criminal takeover into black and white. | ||
| I think that if you say that if you complain you're a white nationalist, they call you a white nationalist. | ||
| I would say that that's a statement that I think is very... | ||
| I would even go so far as to say, if you were just a misanthrope who wasn't a racist, you would have said, I'm a misanthrope, instead of, I'm a white misanthrope. | ||
| I would think that you'd be misanthropic towards Alex, because he's a piece of shit. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Your misanthropy is directed in certain ways. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All you do now. | ||
| They kind of give up. | ||
| They belie what you actually believe. | ||
| All you do now, they do this every time. | ||
| You go out, you complain about one specific race doing one thing that maybe isn't even true, and they all call you a white nationalist now. | ||
| Also, let's not forget what Norm's stand-up bit was. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Woke insurance. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| What a dork. | ||
| Anyway, we have one last clip, and it's Alex giving a sales pitch. | ||
| For woke insurance? | ||
| No. | ||
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Oh. | |
| It's a bummer. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Ultimate Bone Broth's discounted. | ||
| It's all there, Infowarsstore.com. | ||
| And listen, I get it. | ||
| The leaves fall off in autumn, and sometimes stuff shuts down. | ||
| I love this crew. | ||
| I love we've been in the same building 15 years. | ||
| I've been on there 28 years. | ||
| If you guys decide not to support us, and you've already done so much, that's what God wants. | ||
| They'll be happy to go away, but they're going to blow up a bunch of federal buildings and declare martial law and turn your power off and send forced inoculators to your house and rape your wife and children. | ||
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I mean, it's not a joke. | |
| We've done our best here. | ||
| And the good news is, my best work was done 20 years ago, or five years ago, laying landmines in people's minds for when this came. | ||
| So right now, it's all gravy. | ||
| And we're having a huge effect right now, but we already did our work in the past so people would know what was coming. | ||
| So I want you to keep us in the game, but it's up to you. | ||
| You want us in the game? | ||
| Go to Infowarsstore.com, get products you need to make your life better. | ||
| If you don't, kill me. | ||
| You'll never see me again. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| Whoa. | ||
| Listen, listen, I get it. | ||
| Maybe you guys don't like Lucky Charms anymore. | ||
| Maybe you want this leprechaun to go away. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| If you don't want to support Lucky fucking Charms, you don't have to buy any of this shit. | ||
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How about you kill me? | |
| Oh my god, just kill us. | ||
| I mean, that's unbelievable. | ||
| That's beautiful. | ||
| It's very sad. | ||
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That's beautiful ad work. | |
| Mr. Clean. | ||
| You don't want a fucking clean house anymore? | ||
| Fine, Mr. Clean will go away. | ||
| I was thinking about some of the aspects of that, and I do think that, I mean, I think he was bad consistently, but he was better five years ago than he is now. | ||
| I mean, just by virtue of going from a D to an F. It's still worse, sure. | ||
| This is worse. | ||
| And I also do agree that his earlier career has made the present worse. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so he did do his work earlier. | ||
| But, look, dude. | ||
| This kind of sales pitch of like, hey, support us if you want. | ||
| Maybe we're going away. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| That is... | ||
| That makes me sad. | ||
| It feels like what Elizabeth Cady Stanton tried to do for the glass ceiling, Alex is trying to do for the concept of rock bottom. | ||
| He just keeps breaking through it. | ||
| Well, I mean, there's so many different layers of it and different sorts of rock bottom. | ||
| There's the angry, I quit, fuck you. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| This sucks, I'm never coming back. | ||
| There's the... | ||
| We're all going to die. | ||
| He's kind of going through Dabda. | ||
| There's the anger. | ||
| That is the fuck you, fuck you. | ||
| There's the bargaining. | ||
| That is, if you buy our products, we'll stay on air. | ||
| There's denial. | ||
| Him saying, we're winning. | ||
| We're winning. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| There's depression, certainly. | ||
| That's where we are now. | ||
| Yeah, but he never gets to the A. No. | ||
| We're just in a constant cycle of grief without ever making it to acceptance. | ||
| Dabbed, dabbed, dabbed, dabbed. | ||
| Dabbed, dabbed, dabbed. | ||
| That's all my heart, folks. | ||
| You ripped it out. | ||
| We're back. | ||
| We're back to Pigman. | ||
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And that's... | |
| Full circle, baby! | ||
| Is this a herald? | ||
| I think that. | ||
| So, Jordan, we'll be back. | ||
| Yes, indeed we will. | ||
| I do think, though, just to put a little button on this, I don't think that Alex was that surprised by the news of Stuart getting arrested. | ||
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No, I agree. | |
| I don't know how much awareness he had of the specific of him getting arrested that day or anything, but the way he reacted is not how he normally reacts to stuff. | ||
| It seems very, very bizarre and out of character. | ||
| And I don't know. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I wouldn't say that he knew it was going to happen that day, but if he didn't get a text in the past two or three days that's like, it could happen any week now or something like that. | ||
| Shit's getting hot. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I would definitely, absolutely see Stewart himself knowing like, hey. | ||
| This is getting serious now. | ||
| Or Stewart's Lawyer. | ||
| Or Stewart's Lawyer. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| And so, anyway, we'll see what happens as Alex realizes more and more that his buddy is... | ||
| Is straight up fucked. | ||
| Woo! | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
| But until then, Jordan, we have a website. | ||
| We do. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Yeah, we're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's that knowledge underscore fight, and I go to bed Jordan. | ||
| Yeah, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark, I'm Daryl Rundis. | ||
| And now, here comes the sex robot. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |