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Jan. 10, 2022 - Knowledge Fight
02:32:43
#635: January 6-7, 2022

In Knowledge Fight #635, Alex Jones falsely ties January 6, 2022 to a "globalist false flag" while peddling COVID vaccine conspiracies—sterilization, social credit scores, and a California school’s undocumented myocarditis claims—despite debunking by Dan Friesen. He later pivots to Tucker Carlson as the "greatest populist," ignoring their lack of collaboration despite shared rhetoric, before revealing InfoWars’ $165M sales (not profits) and his refusal to take a vacation due to $3M debt, framing it as a fight against the "New World Order." The hosts mock Jones’ shifting narratives, financial hypocrisy, and reliance on fringe theories over facts. [Automatically generated summary]

Participants
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alex jones
infowars 38:43
d
dan friesen
01:13:30
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jordan holmes
32:51
Appearances
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jason miller
01:25
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ted nugent
01:57
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unidentified
Riddler, Riddler, Reddler, Riddler, Riddler, Reddit-Riddler, Riddler, Riddler, Knowledge Fight.
Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
alex jones
Knowledgepight.com.
It's time to pray.
unidentified
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, Shang, we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge and fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
I need money.
Andy and Pansy.
Andy and Pandy.
unidentified
Stop it.
alex jones
Andy and Kansas.
Andy and Kansas.
unidentified
Andy.
alex jones
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding us.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a fish pin colour.
I'm here saying I love your room.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com.
I love you.
unidentified
Hey, everybody.
dan friesen
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
unidentified
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot today.
Jordan, I've been a little bit in the weeds this weekend.
jordan holmes
In the weeds.
dan friesen
I've been a little bit in the grumps.
Let's say.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
The grumps and dumps.
dan friesen
Whatever.
A little down.
You know, I think there's a lot of things that probably contribute to that sort of thing.
I think that there's pressures, there's stresses of this, the work-related stresses.
The anniversary of the 6th is certainly not a pleasant time to be in this line of work.
jordan holmes
Not a great day.
Not a great day for us.
dan friesen
It's not good for America, and it's really not bad if you're somebody who covers people who lie about James.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
It makes you feel real shitty all the time.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
And so my bright spot is that I needed to retreat to something that was painfully sincere and uplifting.
And I think it's been a bright spot in the past, but the Great British Baking Show.
jordan holmes
I'm telling you, man.
dan friesen
Good lord.
jordan holmes
Obscenely sincere and uplifting.
dan friesen
I think that there's nothing that could be more cozy and happy than that.
Like they're competing with each other, but they're not mad at each other.
jordan holmes
They're lifting each other up.
dan friesen
They're happy for each other.
jordan holmes
And everybody wants them to be the best.
dan friesen
Right.
People leave and they're happy for the experience that they had.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
They never talk about what they're competing for because it's just a plate.
jordan holmes
Wait, it's just a fucking plate.
Who gives a shit?
They're competing for 1 million plates.
No, who cares?
dan friesen
And American reality shows or contest shows that they're like, they are challenging for $250,000.
There's no obsession with the outcome.
There is obsession with the process.
And the other thing that I noticed too, watching, I think I was watching season five, is that the people sincerely seem to think that each other are funny.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, like that's something that goes a long way.
jordan holmes
Against all evidence.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Well, you know, I think a lot of times on shows, people don't really seem to enjoy each other's company.
And the hosts, the presenters, Noel is great.
jordan holmes
Little is, once Noel took over, solid 10.
dan friesen
Adds a weird element of chaos.
jordan holmes
So good.
So good.
And absurdity.
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, so I've been enjoying that.
I watched season five.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so that's.
jordan holmes
It is always funny every time I watch that and then be like, you know, that guy on the mighty boosh he liked 20 years ago?
He's going to host the great British Baking Show.
Sure, that makes sense.
Why not?
dan friesen
Yeah, it works well, too.
jordan holmes
Steve Harvey's a judge now.
It's all of it makes sense.
dan friesen
Wait, like in the courts?
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's got a judge TV show.
dan friesen
Oh, that's not the same thing.
jordan holmes
And it's the same thing.
It's legally binding if it's on TV.
dan friesen
Fine.
So what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
Bright spot, Dean, is today we're recording this on Sunday, the 9th, I believe.
That's the official kickoff for Awesome Games Done Quick 2021.
dan friesen
I saw something about that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, I'm a fan of the event because it's all about charity and a bunch of weirdos getting together and having a grand old time doing fun stuff.
dan friesen
It's speed running.
It's great.
jordan holmes
It's great.
dan friesen
Finding glitches to jump through.
jordan holmes
And they're going to break those games.
That's what they're going to do, dude.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't enjoy that as much as you do, but I get it.
There's a lot of fun to that.
jordan holmes
Honestly, I think it's more just I am so excited about like Mario and Mega Man speedruns because it is like playing an instrument.
You know, it's all rhythmic, it's all timing.
It's all, if you see the level as a giant piece of sheet music, it's really kind of beautiful to watch.
I think it's amazing.
dan friesen
That's an interesting take on it.
I guess I've always had such a different relationship with video games because I like enjoying the story.
You know, that's what's such a big part of video games.
Sure.
That it kind of confuses me.
jordan holmes
Speedrunning is getting rid of the only thing that you enjoy.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's breaking the story aspect of it.
Right.
I get it.
I get it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
It's great.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we're going to be talking about the anniversary of January 6th, January 6th, 2022.
jordan holmes
And Skadoo?
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
We'll figure it out.
Yeah.
The seventh, also.
We're going to talk about the sixth and the seventh.
unidentified
Gotcha.
dan friesen
This is quite a monumentous little bit of time.
Maybe we'll get an outburst.
jordan holmes
I think.
I think it's possible.
dan friesen
So we'll get down to business on this, but first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So, first, Hexa Cult.
Thank you so much.
You're an IO Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a Policy Wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Hexa Cult.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, grovel at the feet of your muscle master.
Thank you so much, you're an IO Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Polishy Wonk from Milwaukee.
Thank you so much.
You're an IO Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a Policy Wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, a fruit who really knows where his towel is.
Thank you so much.
You're an IO Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a Policy Wonk.
jordan holmes
Oh, man, that's a frupy dude.
I'll tell you that right now.
dan friesen
Next, Krista, your husband is secretly funneling our money to Dan and Jordan.
Thank you so much.
You're an Iowa Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Hang out.
Next, Matt, King of the Reptoids.
Thank you so much.
You're an Iowa Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Thanks, Matt.
dan friesen
And look, what?
This one, I think it might not have been super timely when this is from the end of December.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Happy birthday to Andrew.
Thank you so much.
You're an IOPOC wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Messages.
You know, we don't do birthday messages anymore, so you should expect it to be three to six months later.
dan friesen
Sure.
Yeah.
So we're going to get going, but here's an out-of-context drop from today's show.
And this should give you a sense of the gravitas we're dealing with.
alex jones
Set the record straight, Ted Nugent, about what really happened on January 6th.
dan friesen
Yeah, Ted Nugent.
jordan holmes
Set the record straight.
Why do I live in this?
Why do I live in this timeline?
dan friesen
It's a silly thing.
There's a better one.
It's a silly thing for Alex to want to happen on the show.
jordan holmes
Excuse me, Ted Nugent.
Please explain all momentous occasions in American history.
dan friesen
To my knowledge, you were not there, Ted Nugent.
jordan holmes
There's a problem.
dan friesen
Cool.
So the January 6th episode of the show has a pretty severe title.
The title is Wake the Fuck Up or Die.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
That was the article headline.
jordan holmes
Full spelling?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No, no asterisks?
dan friesen
No, no, nothing.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Straight up fucks.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Well, then I'm in.
And I actually think that something was very noticeable about this episode as well.
And that is that Alex starts off the show being honest and upfront about the fact that he has to leave early to go to family court.
jordan holmes
Oh.
dan friesen
Because that did happen later in the day.
He had a hearing at like two in the afternoon, so he had to leave.
Owen Schroyer did the third hour.
And Alex doesn't try and obfuscate and say some kind of weird stuff, which I think is progress.
alex jones
It's weird.
jordan holmes
I mean, he should be taken away by the evil globalists, obviously, and said it's just family court, which is almost humanizing.
dan friesen
I guess.
So he starts off the show deep in the weeds, mad at Ted Cruz, because Ted Cruz has tweeted that January 6th was a terrorist terror act.
And this is before he gets humiliated by Tucker Carlson.
jordan holmes
Man, so funny.
dan friesen
And so Alex is a little bit mad about this.
alex jones
It is January 6th, 2022, on this Thursday transmission.
At this time, a year ago, I was sitting there watching Trump give a speech.
And down the road, the feds were busy attacking the undermanned police and with just a few dozen men breaking through the first barricades and the rest is history.
Then the police standing down, waving everybody in so they can get some patsies to put in solitary confinement and set the precedent for Chinese-style torture of political dissidents in America.
And we have Ted Cruz praising it all yesterday.
Obviously, that's just what's wrong with Ted Cruz is he's smart.
He knows what's going on, but he'll bite you.
He'll stab you in the back.
And he just can't help it.
dan friesen
Ted Cruz is smart, but he'll bite you.
jordan holmes
I can't get over how fantastic it is, how funny it is, and how complete of a coward you would have to be to be in a building where you could have been murdered and then a year later be browbeaten by Tucker Carlson into pretending that you weren't going to be murdered.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's kind of a fun thing in this dystopian world we live in to watch that utter humiliation that Ted Cruz had to go through.
Brutal on the national stage.
So he called the storming of the Capitol a violent terrorist attack, and immediately the extremist pundits that essentially guide the GOP now swarmed, showing that he has absolutely no backbone.
Cruz went on Tucker's show on Thursday, the evening of this episode, and he tried to beg for forgiveness, almost as if he was worried about being canceled by a right-wing mob.
jordan holmes
I wish I had been shot by you people.
That would have made me a hero.
dan friesen
It would be a shocking display of cowardice, except I remember the 2016 election when Trump called his wife ugly and said his dad killed JFK, and then Cruz ended up phone banking for it.
This dude's a total loser.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's amazing.
Wouldn't you be sad?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Wouldn't you be sad if you had elected, if I had voted for Ted Cruz, even if I believed in everything Ted Cruz believed in, it's just like, oh, you're such a worm.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's a sniveling worm.
unidentified
You're a worm.
dan friesen
Level of Carlo Ferris Dad.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
Go fucking get tossed off a ledge by Sawroman, you piece of shit.
dan friesen
So watching Tucker not accept Cruz's apology was also really fun, but underneath that, there's a more troubling reality.
Ted Cruz isn't some dumbass media personality.
He's a senator representing one of the most populous states in the country.
He has no ability to express himself if the things he's wanting to express happen to run counter to the narratives that underpin the business models of this group of white nationalist pundits.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
It really doesn't bode well for the GOP and their politics moving forward.
And I mean, they weren't good before, but the idea that the people who are elected officials need to pass an asshole like Tucker's purity test, that's a sign that things are going to get worse.
Oh, yeah.
Another thing that's shocking about this is that these people like Alex and Tucker, they're pretending that this is the first time Ted Cruz called Storming the Capitol terrorism.
Daniel Dale at CNN was able to find at least 17 other times that Cruz has used that wording in the past.
It's a consistent pattern, but they're sort of pretending that it's a one-off thing because that allows them to humiliate him and make this public display of like what happens if you go against the narrative.
jordan holmes
What's so funny about it to me is that this is happening, like I watched that shit happen.
And then you read stuff like I was reading stuff today about how the GOP is officially Trump's party and all that stuff.
And the more I think about it, the more it's like Trump is not involved.
They don't need Trump.
Trump speaking is in the way.
dan friesen
Trump is symbolically involved.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
He's not the leader of the party, though.
No.
That's what needs to be made clear of, is that the GOP is an entirely media-run operation now.
It seems hard to believe anything else.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's interesting.
It seems to be media-threatened, at least.
jordan holmes
Yeah, easily influenced by what the Kingmaker says you have to say.
dan friesen
Yeah, or bizarre social media trends and stuff like that seem to be really potent in terms of guiding stuff.
And obviously, I don't think that someone like Mitch McConnell would be subject to that.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But that's why he's losing power and losing influence and relevance in the GOP.
jordan holmes
There you go.
dan friesen
I mean, it is what it is.
It's just going to be a different brand of horror.
So Ted Cruz used that language, calling January 6th terrorism for a reason.
And Alex knows what the reason is.
It's not what you think.
It's an elaborate plan.
alex jones
Okay.
Let me just let the cat out of the back.
I think you probably know why Cruz did that.
The whole new system, the whole new cosmology is that the American people are all terrorist and that they've got to round up everybody and shut down any populist movement, any conservative movement, any nationalist movement.
And Ted Cruz knows that purge is coming and he wants to position himself so when the stage terror attacks happen, he can point his finger at the Patriots and say, I'm not with the Patriot terrorist.
Instead of saying the evidence shows it's a false flag and the globalists have the motive and we need to stop them staging a false flag sometime the next 300 days.
We're 300 to 6 days out from the midterms.
And if you don't feel the suspense, if you don't feel the danger, if you can't cut it with a knife, you're not dialed in.
dan friesen
So you get that?
Understand what he's saying?
jordan holmes
I guess we're all terrorists now.
dan friesen
Sure.
So the, yes, the globalists are going to pull a false flag.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And they're going to blame it on the Patriots and the good Americans that are left.
And so in order to signal to the globalists that he's on their side and he will help persecute the good Americans, he's using the language of terrorist to describe January 6th.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
All right.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Ted Cruz joined the globalists.
You know, they've been waiting to welcome him with open arms.
dan friesen
Yeah, it seems like the entry and exit of that group is super people are going in and out.
jordan holmes
Dude, I have been part of this team for like 30 fucking years, and I said terrorism one time and I have to get my ass flogged.
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
I did everything.
I bent over backwards for Trump.
jordan holmes
You literally bent over backwards for Trump.
It could not have been less metaphorical.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is just dumb.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
But I think that Alex does recognize that there are probably going to be right-wing attacks between now and the midterm.
Safer thing to think.
There is a high likelihood that that could happen.
And Alex is preemptively writing a script in order to make it very clear to people that he had nothing to do with inspiring.
jordan holmes
Never thought of it.
No.
dan friesen
No.
So there are some lies that Alex has about COVID measures around the world.
alex jones
This is a nightmare takeover.
This is an accelerated takeover.
And so you've seen them in New Zealand and Australia say, you're not allowed to go outside and look at the sunset.
Nothing non-essential.
Well, look at the sunset is essential.
Communicating with what God created and that connection to God.
The sun's not God, but it's God's artwork.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
It's God's cathedral.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
And don't talk to your neighbors, even over a fence.
In fact, don't look them in the eyes.
That's on billboards and on signs in the UK and in places like Australia.
And then you've got government health ministers over major provinces in Canada saying, we're keeping the lockdowns going because we don't want people to talk to each other out in public and stop what we're doing.
We're in a transition.
dan friesen
That thing about the Canada is just a months-old narrative Alex is rehashing and it's nonsense.
There was one comment that a person made that a positive side effect of limiting large gatherings to slow COVID was that people who were spreading misinformation would also not be gathering.
It's kind of a dumb comment, particularly considering the fact that most of this misinformation gets spread digitally, not in in-person meetings.
As for that other stuff, that's all just a load of bullshit.
So that thing about sunsets in Australia is a misrepresentation of comments made by Victoria Premier Daniel Andrews back in August.
He was specifically responding to a question about a bunch of people gathering at Rye Beach on a recent evening.
He said, quote, I'm sure it was a beautiful sunset, but that's not in the spirit or the letter of these rules.
He didn't say that you can't watch the sunset or even that you have to stay indoors all the time, just that the state of things in terms of the pandemic back in August in Victoria, having beach gatherings is a bad idea.
According to Victoria's COVID case tracker, they were having in the neighborhood of like 20 to 50 new cases a day back in August.
In January 2022, they're up to about 20,000 new cases a day.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The thing about looking at people in the eye, that thing, that's a case of even sloppier work on Alex's part.
This was a meme that was making the rounds back in September, which showed a bar in London having posted a list of restrictions they were putting in place in order to limit COVID spread.
One of their rules was, quote, no handshaking, high-fiving, or extended eye contact with anyone not at your table.
This was a joke.
The bar in question is London Fields Brewery, and their event manager, Paris Capone, told Reuters, quote, the health and safety of our customers and staff is our number one priority, and we're strictly adhering to all latest public health guidance inside the tap room.
The reference to no eye contact was intended to be an engaging way to encourage customers to read and take notice of the broader guidelines, but we've since removed it in case it was distracting from the overall serious message around safely enjoying the tap room.
None of the examples that Alex has here he's using to illustrate the nightmare tyranny that's coming, none of them are real.
His argument is so weak that one of his examples that he has to use is a satirical list from a bar that he saw in a meme and he never looked into.
Nothing he's saying means anything.
jordan holmes
This is garbage.
I was thinking about that, you know, in Australia, you can't even look at the sunset.
And I was just, I'm really looking forward to the Australian Open next week.
dan friesen
We're going to talk about Jokovich a little bit later and see if you have any feelings about that.
jordan holmes
Massive tennis tournament the worldwide will enjoy.
Yeah.
Can't look at the sunset.
dan friesen
I see you trying to avoid talking about Jokovich.
jordan holmes
Oh, I don't want to avoid talking about it.
He's a fucking idiot.
dan friesen
It's going to come back.
jordan holmes
He's a moron.
dan friesen
We're going to get to this later.
So yeah, all this bunch of garbage, a bunch of stupid shit.
Alex is either using jokes that people made or misrepresentations of things in order to pretend that, oh my God, tyranny is upon us.
So also in Australia, turns out, can't exercise.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
They're now saying in Australia that you can't go outside and exercise if you don't have your little travel pass.
So there it is.
Now you can't leave your house unless you have the digital ID and then everything it takes to get that ID, the social credit score you must comply with, including the carbon taxes, the injections, all of it.
And you are now in a prison planet.
dan friesen
You might notice some like popping of the audio.
That's on Alex's end.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's, I don't know what's going on, but his audio has been a lot worse fairly recently.
jordan holmes
You know, I'm not mad at the crew.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Now, Alex is actually fairly right about this one, this headline.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
dan friesen
There was a comment made by the chief minister of the Northern Territory, Michael Gunner, and he did say that going to work or exercise, that's not a legitimate reason for an unvaccinated person to leave their home.
This decision was made because their new case numbers jumped about 60% from Tuesday to Wednesday and then over doubled from Wednesday to Thursday.
And so they were putting in this like four-day pretty tight lockup.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
The reason for the vaccine requirements for entry to most public places is just a matter of logistics at this point for the Northern Territory.
As Gunner put it, quote, we know that at-home and in-hospitality settings are the two highest risk settings for catching COVID.
We know that the unvaccinated are at greater risk of needing acute clinical care if they catch COVID.
That's why a vaccine pass will be necessary for entering high-risk hospitality settings.
It's not even like him saying we're trying to stop the spread or anything.
It's just if you're unvaccinated, you're more likely to end up in the hospital.
jordan holmes
And I mean, what do you want from us?
Like, that's the other, that's the question.
Okay, so now what?
You hate that.
That's tyranny.
So what do you want then?
Okay.
dan friesen
The comment about not being able to go out to exercise, it kind of seems like it's actually in reference to unvaccinated people not being allowed to go to gyms.
Even with a vaccine pass system in place, there's no way the Northern Territory has the police capability to check people's vaccine status out on the street, like if someone's going for a jog.
And while we're at it, that's not even how this works.
The police aren't enforcing this at all.
Health Minister Natasha Files was talking to ABC Radio Darwin about how this places an added responsibility on service workers.
And she said, quote, the onus is on the community to abide by the requirements.
That doesn't sound at all like this tyranny thing.
jordan holmes
Hey, come on, do it.
dan friesen
Look, I don't know.
Maybe I'm not the best expert on this because I don't have a knee-jerk reaction to every meme I see that makes me yell about how the devil is upon us.
Now, I said that Alex was fairly right there because the bar is just so low for him.
So the fact that he isn't just basically making this up entirely, I feel like that deserves some recognition.
jordan holmes
Well, there's something to it.
dan friesen
That said, there are a couple other important corrections I need to make.
This isn't for all of Australia, and the rules still allow you to leave your house for essential items.
And everything he was saying about a social credit score and carbon taxes, those are just from his imagination.
This has nothing to do with the story.
This is just him riffing.
jordan holmes
It's meaningless.
I just see somebody walking outside of their house in Sydney, just like slow looking both directions, crossing the street, putting their headphones in to go for a jug, and then 30 Scotland Yard people with billy clubs just show up out of nowhere and just start beating them down.
You can't do this.
You can't do this.
dan friesen
Do you know if Sydney's in the Northern Territory?
unidentified
I don't.
jordan holmes
That's just what I'm seeing in my head.
dan friesen
You're going to offend all our Australian ones.
alex jones
I don't want to say that.
jordan holmes
That's just my vision of it.
dan friesen
So look, the CDC has some evil plans.
jordan holmes
I wish they had evil plans.
That would be better than what it appears to be, which is zero plans.
dan friesen
Well, look, I heard this clip and I'm like, I need a citation, my dude.
alex jones
People say, why do you call it a prison planet?
Well, I read the globalist documents, and what they were building was a prison planet.
And then once everybody's in the prison planet and getting sicker and dying and had 10, 15 shots, the government says it's the uninjected.
They're the reason you're sick.
We've got to finally put them in camps.
And we can't let them be lazy.
They're going to have to work in the camps.
Now, how do I know that?
Well, it's historically happened before with authoritarians demonizing a group and doing that to them for some reason.
They make up different reasons.
But it's also in the CDC documents from a year and a half ago that they want that here where, oh, we're going to put people that don't take the shots in camps and we're going to make you work.
Oh, isn't that good?
dan friesen
I'm going to need this CDC document about putting people in camps, work camps.
jordan holmes
I mean, ridiculous.
I can believe that you would have to work also because apparently you have to work even if you're not in a camp.
dan friesen
So I need that document.
And then second, I just got to say this is a stupid plan.
And actually, it's completely in conflict with the other aspects of the conspiracy that Alex has been trying to promote about COVID and the vaccines.
I thought the whole plan was to kill off everyone so the globalists can enjoy the earth without all of us getting in the way.
But now I guess it's a plan to put Alex and his friends into camps that then they have to oversee.
How fucking awful would that be?
jordan holmes
Okay, so you kill everybody, but instead you create a prison planet to okay, you're right.
This is a bad plan.
dan friesen
Yeah, dumb.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know what's weird?
Like when you go back through Alex's career, it seems like there's an intense preoccupation with him and his friends being put into FEMA camps.
Throughout so many different generations of the show, that's the big fear that he's promoting.
But if you actually track the storylines that he uses to sell that fear, they don't match up at all.
In 2009, it was owning a gun that was going to get you thrown into FEMA camps.
There's going to be large-scale gun confiscation efforts.
And if you resisted, you'd be sent to the camp.
Then a little bit later when Obama was in office, he was always just about to pull the trigger on the FEMA provisional government, which would make him the king of America, which he was planning to turn into an Islamic caliphate.
And if you resisted his power grab, you'd be sent to a FEMA camp.
Yeah, I remember that.
Now, if you don't get vaccinated, you're going to get sent to a FEMA camp.
It's honestly a little bit boring for me at this point, but I guess it works to rile up the audience.
That's the only explanation for why he just keeps going back to that detail and all of his fear porn.
Another reason this is super boring for me is that if the government ever did get the idea to start doing this and rounding up unvaccinated people to send them to work camps, the people who are going to be on the forefront of fighting against that are the very people Alex thinks are demons.
Leftists, the ACLU, politicians like AOC, they're going to be opposed to this on principle.
While Alex's favorite politicians shrivel up like Ted Cruz and go along to get along.
It's total nonsense.
I'm sick and tired of this bullshit.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know, it's really easy to drum up fear of being put into a camp if you're trying to scare white people because historically, it's never been white people who get put into the camps.
dan friesen
So look, there's going to be a situation where in the future, in the next year, everyone's going to be dead.
jordan holmes
Wow.
I mean, sure.
dan friesen
And the globalists are going to say that it's a big bioweapon release, right?
jordan holmes
Why not?
dan friesen
Which I don't know why they would say that.
I have no idea.
Obviously, based on Alex's narratives, it would be so much easier for them to say it's another variation of COVID.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's just something we're already dealing with.
dan friesen
I guess the globalists are going to say there's another bioweapon release.
jordan holmes
So they want to take credit.
dan friesen
Another one, by the way, is murky language.
jordan holmes
That's difficult to sell.
dan friesen
But it's actually just going to be the vaccine killing you.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
Unless.
jordan holmes
Oh.
dan friesen
There's one way.
alex jones
Here's the deal.
They're going to claim a new bioweapons release in a year or two that's going to kill billions.
Really, it's the shot you've taken.
I'm sorry to have to tell folks, but a lot of you, unless we find how to reverse this, are dead.
I mean, it's just the way it is.
Doesn't matter in the military, who you are.
But that's why key globalist personnel are given the sailing shot.
They're all in on it, too.
They know.
They're giving the conservatives, the Christians, the people's property they want.
They've got actuaries.
They've got databases, and it's just, it's incredible, ladies and gentlemen.
And so you see it all happening.
dan friesen
Yeah, you see it all.
jordan holmes
Hey, if you've got an actuary, I believe it.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
I mean, can you show me one of those actuaries, though?
dan friesen
Alex says actuary so goddamn.
jordan holmes
He says it a lot.
dan friesen
Probably says it as much as he says he's not mad at the crew.
jordan holmes
Can I see one of the actuaries?
Nope.
Why not?
dan friesen
They got tables.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, so apparently we're all going to die unless Alex can figure out a cure for the vaccine.
alex jones
Great.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
Great.
jordan holmes
Okay.
So their plan is to vaccinate everybody and then next year announce that a bioweapon hit, but really they're just triggering the vaccine to kill you.
dan friesen
I don't know if they even need to trigger the vaccine, according to Alex.
jordan holmes
But I mean, why do they need to add the bioweapon?
Seems like it's a hat-on-a-hat scenario, I feel like.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't disagree.
Yeah.
I think it's all unnecessary.
Yeah, very dumb.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Speaking of unnecessary and dumb, Alex has a guest.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
It's Ted Nugent.
jordan holmes
Great.
alex jones
Joining us is Ted Cruz in the year, not Ted Cruz, is Ted Nugent to talk about Ted Cruz and more in the year 2022.
So, Mr. Nugent, thank you so much for coming on with us.
ted nugent
Well, greetings to you, Alex, and I got to tell you, I sincerely wish everyone a happy new year in 2022, but it's going to be quite a challenge.
dan friesen
This is a low-energy Ted Nugent coming in.
jordan holmes
I was expecting at least 30 more words to be crammed into that half-second.
dan friesen
Yeah, he needs to take a Tootsky.
jordan holmes
Get it up, man.
Come on.
dan friesen
Yeah, I usually hear him chomping at the bit.
unidentified
Alex, it's so good to come out and say, yeah, yeah.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he does have some thoughts.
He wants to correct the record about January 6th.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And set the record straight, Ted Nugent, about what really happened on January 6th.
ted nugent
Well, and again, you know, I often repeat the obvious that I'm just a guitar player, but I'm actually a we the people experimenter and self-government guitar player, which means I'm tuned into the world around me, especially the old experiment and self-government.
They're sacred, United States of America.
And here's what happened on January 6th.
President Trump did a speech and a presentation and had a rally with good conservative families supporting God, family, country, constitution, Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence, that men in the arena work ethic that has created the greatest quality of life in the history of the world.
Then Ray Epps and a bunch of other saboteurs, a bunch of other provocateurs, federal protected provocateurs, organized a rally.
Well, it was supposed to be a peaceful protest.
But those that created violence, those that turned it into a riot, those were Black Lives Matter punks.
Those were Antifa punks.
And those were Federal Bureau of Investigation, James Comey, J. Edgar Hoover punks that perpetrated all the violence, all the violent activity, dressed in Trump regalia.
unidentified
Who the hell doesn't know this?
dan friesen
Number of people.
jordan holmes
Okay.
So now, hold on.
Let's just throw this one out there.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Did Antifa or BLM ever say, hump the air with their gun and threaten to kill the president?
unidentified
Oh, so many times.
jordan holmes
So I would say the guy who's threatening to hump the air with a gun and kill the president.
dan friesen
Telling Obama to suck on his right hand.
jordan holmes
Yeah, his buddies.
They're more likely to be the ones who are going to the government and shooting them.
I feel like that makes sense.
dan friesen
Nancy Pelosi, I got one of these for you.
jordan holmes
I feel like it makes sense.
I feel like there's just a one-to-one logical connection there.
dan friesen
You just don't get metaphors.
jordan holmes
Really don't.
dan friesen
So it's also got to really suck to be someone like Daniel Rodriguez, who is the guy who tasered Officer Michael Fanon on the 6th.
You know, it's got to suck to hear how easily disavowed and disowned you are by the very people who whipped you into the frenzy where you thought it might be necessary to tase a cop in order to save America.
I have to assume it would be really disillusioning to see this kind of thing where because you took action in the way that these people were clearly indicating that you should, you now have to be cast off as a left-wing provocateur just to make the noble patriots look bad.
They have to turn you into that because you did what they wanted you to.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
It's honestly pathetic, and it's also disrespectful to the insurgents that people like Alex and Ted have radicalized.
Alex always says that you can tell a tree by its fruit, and I think it's a disgrace for these guys to disown their fruit in order to pretend that their tree isn't as shitty as it clearly is.
It's nonsense.
Yeah.
I mean, I hate to, you know, I hate to appeal to, like, hey, have sympathy for this dude who says a cop.
jordan holmes
I kept thinking, like, God, if I was one of these, if I was one of those dudes, I'd be like, I'm going to sue Tucker Carlson for libel because I was fucking there and I did that shit, and I'm proud of it.
dan friesen
Well, you have to know that you were.
You have to see these people trying to cover their asses by pretending it was all false flaggery or whatever.
And it's got to be confusing.
I mean, unless you fully understand, actually, why they're trying to cover their ass.
Well, good on them.
They're covering the rest.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
In which case, it's like, well, you're sad too.
Everybody involved in this is sad.
I would feel more sympathy if I hadn't read in every novel about this type of thing happening every time.
dan friesen
Yeah, but did those novels include Ted Nugent and his suck on my gun, the president?
jordan holmes
And that's why my friends, when they went to the government, were very peaceful, fun-loving, enjoyable Americans who never threatened to murder the president before.
dan friesen
It was all Black Lives Matter.
jordan holmes
All Black Lives Matter, people.
Oh, my God.
You are sad.
dan friesen
So anyway, Ted Nugent's really into denying January 6th, and he wants to get you to bully your people in Congress to do the same.
jordan holmes
Gaslight is a job.
ted nugent
America, take a deep breath and be sure you let your mayor, your senator, your congressman, your governor, and the White House know on a regular basis.
I would say at this point during these tragic times, on a weekly basis, communicate with your elected employees and let them know that you know January 6th was not an insurrection.
It was not Pearl Harbor and it was not 9-11.
It had nothing to do with any of those horrific events.
dan friesen
I don't think this little rant makes a lot of sense.
I don't think that anyone would say that 9-11 or Pearl Harbor were insurrections.
However, Ted is currently talking to a guy who thinks both of those things were false flags.
So I'm not sure it's super impactful to cite them as horrific events that you want to disambiguate from January 6th.
It's all the same.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Nugent's a fucking asshole, but this strategy is probably an effective one to put pressure on the GOP politicians.
It does seem like bullying them into denying reality has been shown to work.
So I wouldn't be too surprised if over time we don't end up seeing an entire political party that fully embraces that conspiracy version of January 6th.
jordan holmes
What you need to do to prove to our elected politicians that this was a peaceful demonstration is to violently intimidate them until they agree with you.
dan friesen
You need to harass the shit out of you.
jordan holmes
You need to really get into their faces, maybe even commit a little violence.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So things take a turn for the worse in this clip.
jordan holmes
With the noog?
dan friesen
No, actually, without him.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a fun refreshment.
dan friesen
Mike's down for this because I'm speaking in riddles.
alex jones
For me, I think you and people like Tucker Carlson are the model of America.
You're just populist.
You believe in our basic rights and freedom.
And that should unify people around all that.
And to have Ted Cruz putting out the same talking points as Chucky Schumer and the Democrats that are also a lie is super dangerous.
And I think it spotlights, as you like to say.
The reason we keep losing this country is we know the Democrats are bad, but if we didn't have Republicans continually stabbing us in the back, we would turn this country around.
What's your view on that?
Ted Nugent.
May have lost audio to him.
ted nugent
I got you.
alex jones
So, Ted, continuing here.
How do we create a populism in America and take the country back?
ted nugent
You got me all right.
alex jones
Yeah, we may have had an issue here with the sound.
Guys, can you punch this phone back up for me?
Ted, are you sure you can't hear me?
All right.
Well, thank you, Ted.
Yeah, I'm having a phone system issue in here.
Ted, can you hear me?
The truth.
unidentified
And the truth shall make us free.
We shall know the truth.
alex jones
What just happened?
dan friesen
It doesn't even go to a special report.
alex jones
It goes to a bike.
jordan holmes
What problem is that?
dan friesen
That's shocking because, I mean, like the phone problems, whatever.
Yeah.
What I find remarkable about this tech glitch is that Alex's mic keeps cutting off, too.
Whenever he's trying to talk, his mic ends up going out.
And then just him just leaving.
Well, I guess maybe his mic was off when he screamed that he's going off to rebroadcast.
jordan holmes
It must be.
dan friesen
So anyway, he leaves.
jordan holmes
That was a fucking 70s bit.
That was a shit.
Not Bob Hope.
What's his name who used to do the one-sided phone conversations?
Now I'm terrible.
What's the point of knowing anything?
dan friesen
If you're saying who's the person who's similar to Bob Hope, I'm going to be.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm going to let you go on that one.
I think it's time to school of conversation.
Listen, I got to get out of here.
Let's go to rebroadcast.
dan friesen
So Alex comes back and he's got, he's going to explain that he had phone issues, which, duh, we know.
alex jones
So if you guys can aim that document cam, the overhead camera over here, I'm going to show people what was going on here.
And it only seems to happen in clusters.
Like it might not happen for another year.
And then this week, it's been happening, as you saw earlier in the week where the mic cut out.
It's this system right here.
I was talking to Ted during the break, trying to go to him, and then hitting the button.
And people in other parts of the building heard that you couldn't hear him, but they thought they could hear him.
So I've just learned not to argue.
I know when I'm off air.
I just shut it down and I go off so I don't get mad.
Because I'm not going to do that amateur thing here on talk radio where there's a problem.
They just keep going, hello, hello, hello, for like five minutes, you know, to like prank callers, like a prank caller will call in and say, hello.
Person says, hello, and you go back and forth for an hour.
Just not doing it.
Not happening.
dan friesen
Alex is known for not doing that amateur bullshit.
jordan holmes
No, no.
I don't do that for five minutes.
I only did that for two and a half minutes, man.
dan friesen
Well, but also, I would say that more amateur is screaming at everybody.
It's storming out.
jordan holmes
There is the little bit of that.
I would even go so far as to say it's immature.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's, I don't know, if you're trying to take a high road on professionalism, that boat has sailed, my friend.
jordan holmes
No, come on.
Alex is a competent broadcaster.
That's what we all know.
That's why we love him, Dan.
dan friesen
Thank God, though, he got it all figured out.
alex jones
Yes.
dan friesen
Because Ted Nugent's gone.
The phones still aren't working.
jordan holmes
Thank God for that.
dan friesen
But Alex's mic is back and he's got some big news to report.
alex jones
And it's all confirmed.
I mean, look at these headlines I've got today.
Report: one in 70 vaccinated students suffer mycocarditis at private school.
One in 70 vaccinated students suffer myocarditis at private school.
A fourth report of mycocarditis at a private children's academy in California brings the incidence rate to roughly one in 70.
Pathologist Stephen Kirsch estimates.
dan friesen
So, first things first, Stephen Kirsch is not a pathologist.
He's a guy whose background is in computer science, who lost his fucking mind during the pandemic, and now he's pretending to be a pathologist, selling dangerous bullshit to the segment of the media that abhors critical thinking, like Alex.
jordan holmes
That's great.
dan friesen
So, I traced down this story on Inforz just in case.
And the only link that it has in this entire article is just to Steve Kirsch's Substack blog.
This is legitimately becoming one of the primary places Alex is pulling COVID conspiracy content from.
Like, so much nonsense just traces back to that blog.
So, the post on the substack has links to exactly zero primary sources.
There is none.
Nothing.
jordan holmes
I think your tone of voice is suggesting that that's a bad thing.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's bad.
There is one link, but it goes to a previous article that Kirsch wrote on his blog.
This previous blog post also had no evidence or proof of any of his claims, but instead relied on reporting based on something someone told him.
Allegedly, a parent had told him that three children at Monta Vista Christian School had been diagnosed with myocarditis.
I'm not saying that this didn't happen, but I am saying that this is something that you need to do some more legwork on if you're going to report it as a definitive claim.
This is sloppy.
But this shit gets so much worse.
So, the ratio and literally every conclusion that Kirsch comes to is just the result of him guessing things from the original post.
alex jones
Okay.
dan friesen
Quote, roughly half the school are boys.
There has never been a vaccine mandate at the school.
So, I'd estimate conservatively that two-thirds of the kids could have been vaccinated by then.
So, 855 divided by 2 times 2 thirds is 285 vaccinated boys.
So, the rate of myocarditis at the school, by my estimate, is 3 out of 285, which is 1 in 95 boys.
That's the original article that has now been updated because he's heard of a fourth.
jordan holmes
I have never been so shaken to my core.
Dan, that type of evidence.
dan friesen
Do you hear how many guessing he has?
How much guessing there is?
jordan holmes
Roughly speaking, zero guessing, Dan.
dan friesen
He can't demonstrate that three children had myocarditis.
He can't demonstrate that vaccination rate.
And I would bet that he's even just guessing with the roughly half the school or boys thing.
This one in 95 number means legitimately nothing.
He can't back this up at all.
So then, his new post is about how he's, quote, heard that there's another case of myocarditis at the school, which of course would make it one in about 70 using the same made-up numbers that he used before.
It's hard to believe that someone could write a blog post like this and hit publish without feeling intense embarrassment.
Listen to this utter horseshit.
alex jones
Okay.
dan friesen
Quote, these are just the cases we know about.
There could be other cases that we simply don't know about because the families decided not to tell anyone.
And there could be subclinical cases where the damage is being done so slowly over time.
And I'd bet the boys with myocarditis are all recently vaccinated.
What a coincidence.
jordan holmes
No, you can't bet that something happened and then say it's a coincidence.
unidentified
What a coincidence.
jordan holmes
It didn't happen.
Or it might have, but you don't know.
dan friesen
That should be a big clue that this isn't just.
unidentified
If it was true, which it's not, which you didn't prove.
dan friesen
Yep.
Bingo.
Kirsch doesn't know what the vaccination rate at the school is, but he's decided that all of the alleged four children who he's heard got myocarditis must be recently vaccinated, which he condescendingly responds to.
jordan holmes
What a coincidence.
dan friesen
What an asshole.
jordan holmes
I think, you know what?
Here's what I'm happy about.
All right.
Local news has been dying.
So I'm grateful at least one person is on the only one private school in California beat.
Okay.
Somebody needs to pound those streets.
dan friesen
I would argue he's not.
He's doing a bad job of pounding that one street.
jordan holmes
You know, but it's that local news is still dying, okay?
dan friesen
Fair.
He's not going to get a job with Sinclair.
I can tell you that right now.
jordan holmes
I don't think he will.
dan friesen
So Kirsch apparently contacted the dean of the school who said that they don't just give out medical information about students to random people, which of course proves that this is a conspiracy and a cover-up.
jordan holmes
No, that's what they all don't do.
dan friesen
To Kirsch, everyone's in on it, from the administration to the parents.
Quote, most of the parents apparently agree with the secrecy.
They could speak out, but chose not to say a word to anyone outside the community.
Even the parents of the injured kids are remaining silent.
Why not speak out?
It reminds me of the fairy tale, The Emperor's New Clothes.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
I disagree.
Don't do it.
I don't think remaining silent is the right thing to do here.
Suppose half the school died after taking the vaccine.
Would the school say nothing?
They could save hundreds of thousands of lives worldwide if they spoke out and others followed their lead.
It would destroy the credibility of the CDC and break people out of their hypnotic trance doing whatever the CDC says.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I, a weirdo without a child, called up a school and asked for all of the kids' social security numbers, and the school wouldn't give them to me.
Does that mean they're working with the government?
dan friesen
Well, and honestly, like, this sounds like it's written by a fucking angsty teenager.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's really bad.
dan friesen
This is, the tone of this is so, first of all, unprofessional.
And second of all, just whiny.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's embarrassing.
jordan holmes
I wouldn't give it a high grade if I were grading it.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
So Steve has some theories about why nobody's talking out.
Nobody wants to talk to him.
jordan holmes
How can he have theories?
dan friesen
Well, it's a clear conspiracy.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
So the first is that some alleged students at the school told him that the school administered vaccines on April 30th, so the school must be afraid of getting sued.
Apparently, Kirsch went on to bother the dean about this.
Quote, she stated in an email to me on January 5th that, quote, Monte Vista Christian School has never administered COVID-19 vaccines to students or anyone else.
And Monta Vista Christian School has never hosted at its real property or anywhere else any clinic or other event at which COVID-19 vaccines were administered.
Okay, then that means someone's lying.
Why would the kids lie about that?
Isn't that a sin?
jordan holmes
Get out of here.
No.
No.
Get the fuck out of here.
dan friesen
This was written by a baby.
jordan holmes
Get this man a job.
dan friesen
His other theory is the parents don't want to hurt the school and think that God will heal the students.
This is the primary source Alex is using to report out this vaccine conspiracy claim.
It's nothing new, really, but this is particularly shitty work.
Also, about that supposed vaccine clinic that the school allegedly had on April 30th.
Like, if that was when the students supposedly got vaccinated, that flies in the face of Kirsch's other made-up point about how they were all recently vaccinated, which you'll remember he made up earlier.
jordan holmes
I do recall that.
What a coincidence.
dan friesen
How weird that all this stuff that he's making up isn't internally consistent.
jordan holmes
That's so weird.
What a coincidence.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The claim is going all over right-wing media and social media, and the only support I can find for it in all of the articles is this stupid blog post written by a grown man who sounds like a tween.
These people are re-reporting this story based on this.
They should be deeply ashamed of themselves.
They have done no checking in on the source, or they're willing to stand behind this stupid blog post.
And I find that unacceptable.
I gotta say, I'm sorry.
I don't mean to keep going on a jet.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no, you're on it.
dan friesen
I find that over time, I have a very different relationship to a couple of Alex's guests.
Okay.
Like, sometimes I find them abhorrent, but kind of funny.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Like a Leo Zagami.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Leo Zagami is crazy.
jordan holmes
All-time Hall of Foam.
All-time Hall of Fame.
He's the Pope.
He's Jesus.
He did 9-11.
He's got it all.
dan friesen
He's, obviously there's problems.
I disagree with him on about everything.
jordan holmes
Maybe.
dan friesen
But he harkens back to an older time of Illuminati Vatican conspiracy.
jordan holmes
The good stuff.
dan friesen
Kind of.
jordan holmes
With 70s house music at the same time.
dan friesen
I kind of can put up with Leo Zagami.
We can have an uneasy truce.
jordan holmes
As long as you don't hurt anybody.
dan friesen
Someone like Steve Kirsch, I hate.
I hate this dude.
I think, first of all, his blog is poorly written.
And this information that he's putting out is so thin, so undocumented.
And the way he writes about it on his blog allows people like Alex to sensationalize it even further.
And it's just deeply dangerous.
It's really hard for me to joke even about how bad this blog post is because I recognize the dangers that are inherent in it.
And that makes me not enjoy covering his shit as much as maybe a Leo Zagami.
jordan holmes
I mean, it fucks me up the most whenever it is this kind of situation where you go back and you're like, there's really only this one dude who is saying this shit and everybody's just running with it.
What fucks me up about that is just like, that is such a positive reinforcement type reward for just gall.
Just having the gall to say something this dumb with the straight face is rewarded beyond your wildest dreams.
That's fucked up.
That's not good.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, dumb or not, like, let's put that aside even.
Just like evil.
Making so many assumptions in terms of justifying the claim that you want to make as opposed to getting the actual information that you can verify out.
Right.
I think that, yeah, the rewarding of that is got to, I mean, it's got to give you all kinds of endorphin rushes if you're that guy.
alex jones
Of course.
dan friesen
Why wouldn't you do it again?
jordan holmes
Always.
Why wouldn't you?
Why would you ever stop doing it?
dan friesen
It's the best thing in the world.
It's a good thing to talk to his dumbass substack, I'm sure.
jordan holmes
And he doesn't even have to learn things.
dan friesen
So Alex talks about this a little bit more, and this is just pathetic.
alex jones
And it's Kirsch reporting on what pathologists are saying.
On Wednesday, Kirsch reported via Substack that he'd privately received a report from a concerned parent that a fourth student at the Monte Vista Christian School in Watsonville had been diagnosed.
Kirsch had already documented three cases at the school with an enrollment of about 855 students last month.
dan friesen
So you'll notice at the beginning there, Alex is correcting because he had said that Steve Kirsch was a pathologist, and now he's saying, oh, he's not a pathologist.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
But Alex is still a liar.
Nowhere in Kirsch's articles is he covering anything that a pathologist told him.
That is just a load of bullshit.
Also, Alex is reading an article from his own website that was written by Adan Salazar that does say that Steve Kirsch is a pathologist.
It's so weird.
Almost like Adan wanted to try and give these stupid claims more weight by lying about Kirsch's credentials.
Also, another major point here is that Kirsch has in no way documented any of these cases.
He's heard a rumor about them and he's repeating that rumor.
But this isn't documented or proven in the least.
Every element of how Kirsch reports this story is an attempt to create certainty out of insinuation.
And then when Alex and Adan cover Kirsch his blog post, they do the same thing all over again.
Any point where it kind of becomes clear that Kirsch's blog post doesn't prove anything, it gets fudged in order to make it look definitive.
Adon calls him a pathologist.
Alex accidentally does because he's just reading Adon's article, but then he realizes he can't justify saying something like that.
So he scales it back to saying it's secondhand from a pathologist.
These cases are documented.
It's all intentional.
Most of this story is made up by Steve Kirsch or just things he's assumed for no reason.
But it helps push the narrative Infowars profits from pushing.
So it's critical to keep the audience from realizing that this is Steve Kirsch fanfic, which is why they dress it up like it's actual reporting.
It's too bad.
This is actually getting people killed because otherwise, dunking on it could be good, clean, fun.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Man, I'm a bummer.
How much does it cost to subscribe to that sub stack?
I mean, if it's like $10,000, you got to use his bullshit.
It's, you know, costs, some cost, man.
dan friesen
I don't know if there's like a premium sub stack, but I was able to find this article for free.
jordan holmes
So I don't.
dan friesen
I don't know what he's doing.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So, look, Aaron Rodgers, kind of dumb.
jordan holmes
The quarterback.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Quarterback Aaron Rodgers.
Yeah.
All right.
dan friesen
Super dumb.
Admittedly good at football.
jordan holmes
Very good at football.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
One of the best there ever was in football.
dan friesen
And this is a tension.
alex jones
He's a bum.
Aaron Rodgers calls out NFL MVP voter who won't back him because he's unvaccinated.
So that's a social credit score.
It's not about if he's the best player.
It's not about if he's the most valuable.
It's about that he submit to the social credit score.
dan friesen
So wait, that's what the social credit score that Alex has been screaming about is just an NFL MVP.
The guy who's not voting for Aaron Rodgers for MVP because he's anti-vex.
I thought it was some kind of like codified and centrally run thing where the government takes points away or gives points based on your behavior.
That seems pretty scary, but I'm not sure I even care about the prospect of people making moral decisions when they're voting for the NFL MVP.
jordan holmes
Let me tell you something.
I hope Alex never hears about the Hall of Fame and Barry Bonds.
dan friesen
This could get real out of hand.
jordan holmes
I'm sure he would care a lot.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
If you actually think about what Alex is saying, then anyone acting on their conscience is kind of an instance of the social credit score.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's weird.
Imagine a situation where a guy was running for a county treasurer position.
He's awesome at the actual work of being a treasurer, but unfortunately, he's also pretty public about his belief that white people are superior to other races.
Would voting against him because of that be the social credit score coming into play?
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
What?
I'm a great treasurer.
I'm a great treasurer.
Just let me do the treasury job.
dan friesen
I really don't even understand what Alex means by this stuff anymore.
Like, it's so thin to the point of it's undefinable.
I had the picture in my head of a government system, but now that he's saying that it's just something as meaningless as MVP voting, I'm really lost.
Also, I could make a very strong argument that even if Rodgers is the best football player in the season, him being an open anti-vex weirdo in the middle of a pandemic kind of reduces his value as a player and may take him out of the running for most valuable player in my mind.
I would rather have a quarterback who's just slightly less good at football than him, but who also isn't a total asshole who's probably going to get a bunch of my team's fans killed.
I think I would have more value in having someone like that on my team than Aaron Rodgers.
jordan holmes
Man, I wonder if NFL stat people have tried to put that together.
Like, if Aaron Rodgers infected like eight of his teammates, what's his wins above replacement value subtracted by them being gone for a few games because of him?
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
We got to get the fantasy nerds.
jordan holmes
We got to get the fantasy nerds on how much damage Rodgers is doing to his team by spreading the disease.
dan friesen
All I'm saying is that most valuable player can mean a lot of different things.
There's a lot of stats to take into consideration.
Anyway, this is all convoluted nonsense Alex is rambling about, but it's cool to see that he cares a lot about football now.
Seem to recall him constantly talking about how dumb football is and how it's a distraction meant to divert men's instinct towards war.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Because they, you know, don't want to fight the globalists.
jordan holmes
You got to get distracted to feminize an entire generation.
dan friesen
But I guess it matters a lot now.
jordan holmes
It's super important.
Aaron Rodgers doesn't like vaccines.
dan friesen
But fun.
So, Alex and the sex.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry.
I can't.
I'm still struggling sometimes whenever we get to those different stakes of like one clip ago, everyone's going to die from the vaccine.
Next clip.
Somebody's not voting for Rodgers for MVP.
This is also a big problem.
dan friesen
Wait, wait till we get to the seventh, man.
The seventh is a robot.
jordan holmes
That's fucking crazy.
dan friesen
Yep.
And there's a massive riddle that I can't wait for you to try and unramble, untangle on the seventh.
But before we get to that, there's another bit of a riddle here that Alex gets into.
He's trying to introduce this clip of Robert Kennedy Jr., who's talking about why Fauci wants to vaccinate people.
Then things go off the rails.
See if you can make sense with this.
alex jones
I want to play a very important clip coming up here in a few minutes of Robert Kennedy Jr. explains why Fauci is going after children.
And what he says is on record and totally true and is a huge evil war crime and scandal in and of itself.
But that's only one level.
This is not about money.
Yeah, the drug reps and the company heads, the people following the directives, it's all about money.
But for the groups above it, it's about sterilization, depopulation, playing God, and engaging in mad scientist behavior where they say they want to merge with silicon and become gods.
Well, the only way to do that is to give enough people these shots and then test what's happening and see what genetic lines are able to merge with this.
What immortal cell lines can be merged with this?
They want to merge biological immortal cell lines with a human synthesis that is able to merge with these nanotech synthetic matrixes.
And then they admit all this.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
They admit all this was carrying a lot of water.
It is.
dan friesen
Trust me.
It's such a weird move on Alex's part to play a clip of Robert Kennedy Jr. talking about how Fauci wanted to vaccinate kids for money, but then he introduces it by saying that the clip you're about to listen to, actually, it isn't true.
I guess if Alex's goal is to make Kennedy's argument look sane in comparison to his own, I guess he's done a good job of that.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
So, yeah.
I mean, obviously, for the CEOs and shit, it's all about money.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
But they don't even know that what they're trying to do is combine.
So if I understand now, the vaccines aren't even also about killing people.
It's about mad scientist behavior where you're taking the vaccine to get the idea of what genes can connect with immortal cell lines so you can combine with silicon in order to become gods.
dan friesen
And I guess that all people, like people are going to die just as a side effect of that.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I guess the killing off of the population actually isn't the primary objective.
It's trying to figure out whose bodies merge with.
jordan holmes
So then let me throw this out there.
Is there a chance that one or all of a bunch of us might have those perfect genetics and then, you know, like we'll be fine?
dan friesen
Well, no, they'll probably kill you and take your cells.
jordan holmes
Oh, goddammit!
Oh, these fucking globalists have got me at every turn.
dan friesen
So I was listening to that clip, and I had to take it real slow.
But one thing I noticed for sure is that Alex is struggling to figure out how to end the sentence.
unidentified
Yeah, oh, yeah.
dan friesen
It's fascinating how you can feel the gears moving in his head, knowing that what he's saying is bullshit word salad, but he's still trying to figure out a way to not sound like he's making it all up for sure.
jordan holmes
And then matrixes.
dan friesen
It's kind of like seeing somebody try and adjust while falling air.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally.
dan friesen
It's basically how am I going to land this?
Absolutely.
So for the globalists, the vaccine is about sterilization, depopulation, playing God, and engaging in, quote, mad scientist behavior.
jordan holmes
Which I do think should be a crime.
dan friesen
Honestly, though, so far, so good.
Yeah, that's not bad.
I don't think we're off the rails yet.
So their plan is to merge with silicon and become gods, which I don't believe is anyone's plan, but I'll allow it so we can move forward.
However, how does merging with silicon make one a god?
I guess there's a possibility of like you wouldn't die of old age, maybe, but that's not the only feature you need to be a god, I don't think.
jordan holmes
I mean, you should probably be able to lift heavy things at least.
dan friesen
The silicon will help your muscles.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
Well, that's good.
dan friesen
Anyway, the only way to merge with silicon is for everyone to take COVID vaccines.
Now, I believe that Alex thinks that the vaccines contain like AI nanotech robots.
So this is all a big test to see whose bodies can merge with the vaccines.
And then from this, they hope to find an immortal cell line that can merge with the vaccines because that'll help them merge with silicon.
I'm not sure.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
There's a lot of nonsense.
And for one thing, I really don't think Alex has any understanding of what an immortal cell line is.
I suspect that he actually, you know.
jordan holmes
The cells never die.
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think he thinks that they're actually immortal.
jordan holmes
His cells last forever.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
And there's a limited supply.
You have to pick each one individually out if you want to do an experiment.
dan friesen
When I hear things like this, I really wonder if the listeners recognize how Alex keeps adding new wrinkles to his conspiracies and how the plans of the globalists seem to change constantly.
But like, man, who am I to naysay?
Like, they admit all this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they admit it.
alex jones
It's all admitted.
jordan holmes
Man, the way he ended that sentence, too, with like those last four words were just choppy, not sure where he's going to land.
And then finally, he was like, no one's going to buy that shit.
That's because that's it.
I'm just saying they admitted it.
dan friesen
It's all admitted.
jordan holmes
No one's going to believe this bullshit.
It's all admitted.
dan friesen
So here are some of the citations that Alex provides for this.
alex jones
And then they admit all this.
I mean, I mentioned some of this earlier.
Look how they spin the people that are behind it as the saviors.
Oh, look, the Deimos group.
Technology will enslave you.
Global elites will save you.
60 minutes.
Human history will end when we become gods.
Oh, there's not room for a lot of gods, though.
It goes on from there.
dan friesen
The headline about human history ending when people become gods isn't some kind of an evil statement or threat.
It's the headline of an interview from 2017 with an Israeli historian named Yuval Noah Harari.
It's basically trying to discuss his new book, Homo Deos, which argued that with the advent of technology that we've created, man was beginning to wield powers that we previously ascribed only to deities, like the ability to create life.
He was speaking in a somewhat poetic way to express that when we are able to create inorganic life, like a sentient AI, we can, quote, go to the earth spirit and say, what do you think about that?
We're equal to the spirit we understand, not you.
Harari has some very interesting thoughts, but this is a futurist theory.
And he's definitely not saying that humanity is going to end, just that we'll take on an entirely new relationship with the world around us.
That hasn't been the case since human history has begun.
It's a meaningless citation for the argument Alex is making.
Interestingly, the other headline from 60 Minutes is another interview with Yuval Noah Harari.
What?
From 2021.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
They're just both interviews.
They're both interviews with the same guy?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
What's the deal here?
Like, has Ray Kurzweil not said anything freaky for Alex to get upset about lately?
So he's moved on to pretending another futurist is secretly telling everyone what's coming?
jordan holmes
Wild.
dan friesen
When Alex says they admit all this, what he's actually saying is that he has a couple sensational headlines for articles about interviews with a futurist who's making predictions about where technology is going.
This isn't admitting anything, and the things that are being predicted aren't even in line with Alex's bullshit.
unidentified
Woo!
dan friesen
Stupid.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's, I mean, fine.
Some guy said something, and I'm like, it's very dumb.
dan friesen
But then Alex has to leave.
Okay.
jordan holmes
He's got to go.
It's got a family court.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
So now, the seventh.
Seventh.
I'm blown away by this episode.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It is one of the weirder things I've heard in quite a while.
jordan holmes
So we got a five-year anniversary present.
dan friesen
Kind of.
I mean, it's weird in a way that's a little different than our usual weird.
Granted, there are some familiar themes, let's say.
But listen to this shit.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And imagine how excited I was when I heard this.
alex jones
All right.
Next segment.
I am going to reveal the most important person in the world.
Hands down.
I'm going to reveal the most important person in the world.
And the reason that's important is if you understand that information, you will then understand everything else.
This is a Rosetta Stone.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
This is a skeleton key.
This is the understanding of everything if you can understand this.
jordan holmes
Don't do this.
Don't do this.
dan friesen
Holy shit.
jordan holmes
I swear to God, if he pulls some fucking ironic ass, it's a mirror, and that you are the most important magazine.
If you fuck with me like that, I'm going to be furious.
dan friesen
Yeah, I kind of thought there was a chance that was what was going to happen.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Look, I mean, you're welcome to have your guesses, and I'm not going to say yes or no.
All right.
I'm not going to give it away because it's a fun game.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, I mean, Alex is going to announce the most important person in the world.
This is amazing.
It's awesome.
Here are some clues.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Now, this most important person in the world.
jordan holmes
Oh, we're really hamming it up, too, huh?
alex jones
Doesn't know they're the most important person in the world.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And that's why we're going to reveal why this person is the most important person in the world.
Because as soon as the most important person in the world understands that, then we will truly be able to turn the tide against the new world order.
dan friesen
So the most important person in the world does not know that they're the most important person.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
I mean, I would like a little bit more parameters on that.
Do they know that they are an important person or do they just not know that they're important at all?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Alex doesn't really clarify, but we can say for sure that they don't know that they're the most important person.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And look, we could cross one person off the list.
jordan holmes
Tommy at Starbucks.
unidentified
No.
Oh.
jordan holmes
So it could be him.
alex jones
Novak Djokovic is not the most important person in the world, but he's right up there at the top.
And the spirit of what he's doing is the essence of what we're about to cover.
Because there's a little twist to who this most important person in the world is.
But here's Paul Joseph Watson talking about what's happening in the land of tyranny.
Formally, you know, it's the land down under.
dan friesen
So, yeah, it's not Jokovich.
jordan holmes
It's not Djokovic.
Well, that's good.
Because I do think Jokovich might believe he is the most important person in the world.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's possible.
jordan holmes
That one's there.
That one's there.
dan friesen
The last I heard, what he's doing is requesting a place where he can train.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, he's not asking to not be in a quarantine.
He's just asking for a quarantine where he can train for the open.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he wants a billionaire's quarantine.
dan friesen
Yeah, basically.
I don't know why Alex is labeling that a hero, but whatever.
jordan holmes
I mean, I assume that he's labeling that a hero because right now they're keeping Jokovich in a notorious refugee hotel that has been housing people for upwards of eight years.
And what was very funny is that the pro-Jokovich protesters were right next to the anti-refugee protesters, and they were like, hey, man, guess what else?
These fucking guys are stuck there.
And all the pro-Jokovich protesters were like, holy shit, we got to solve this problem first.
It was amazing.
Wow.
They bailed out Jokovich.
No, they were like, fuck Djokovic.
unidentified
These people have been trapped in there for eight years.
jordan holmes
It's amazing.
It was amazing.
dan friesen
That's unexpected.
jordan holmes
It was a huge surprise.
dan friesen
Wow.
So something that is less unexpected is that Alex gets sidetracked before he tells us who the most important person in the world.
jordan holmes
That's unexpected.
alex jones
There's nothing more frustrating than knowing we have the answers and the key to defeating this evil takeover and stopping it dead in its tracks.
But instead, I just can't get people conscious.
I can't get people focused.
I can't get the message punched out enough to actually finally finish these people.
And so that means we're going to go into a very long, hellish nightmare.
And most people listening and watching will be dead in 10 years.
That's Klaus Schwab's promise.
He's sworn to kill you and your family.
He's put his people in over 100 nations.
And they're running their global lockdown shutdowns right now, preparing you for the real bioweapon they're going to release.
Cyber lockdowns, cyber shutdowns, collapse of the third world completely, being totally overrun, war on the streets, electricity going off for years, just absolute death and destruction is guaranteed.
dan friesen
Who's the most important person in the world, man?
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't know.
dan friesen
I understand that this is muscle memory, him doing these rants, but like, come on, man.
You started this off.
You teased it.
You can't do this too.
I need to know.
It's not Jokovich.
jordan holmes
Well, if it's five years on, then I suppose it is, it's probably still Netanyahu, right?
Because he was the canary in the coal mine.
dan friesen
It's time to pray.
jordan holmes
And it's time to pray, right?
dan friesen
It's not, well, I can't.
Okay, fine.
I slipped.
It's not Netanyahu.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
But I'm not going to say yes or no to any further possible persons.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex is pissed off and he does not get to the point.
alex jones
And so I'm very frustrated and I'm very angry because I have this weight on my shoulders and I know I'm right and I know it's going down and I have all their own admissions and documents and I can't get people out of their trances.
Everybody's in their comfort zone.
And so the enemy's going to win because they're going to incrementally collapse society while posing as the saviors the whole time.
So I'm going to deliver the most important information ever.
jordan holmes
Wow.
Okay.
dan friesen
So if there's one thing that people aren't in right now, it's their fucking comfort zone.
That's the opposite for most people.
jordan holmes
No, I don't think many people are in their comfort zone.
dan friesen
Alex has talked many times in his career about how his job is to wake people up out of their trances.
That's why he yells and has a gravelly voice instead of the soft-spoken folks at NPR.
They're trying to lull you to sleep where he has to be bombastic to shake you out of that sleep.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
When I'm looking for someone to admire, I can tell you that it's not going to be the person who gives themselves the job of being the one who can wake people up to the globalist plots surrounding them, only to lament that they can't actually wake people up to the globalist plots surrounding them.
When Alex says he can't get people to wake up, that isn't the alleged sleeping person's fault.
It's that there's something wrong with the person yelling at them to wake up.
When Alex says stuff like this, I just hear him saying, I can't do my job, which was imaginary to begin with.
jordan holmes
Woo.
No, it's important that we never take responsibility for our own actions or hold anyone responsible for theirs.
That's what is going to move us forward.
dan friesen
I will say, though, I'm excited to hear what the most important information ever is.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's got to be something really deflating.
dan friesen
Yeah, I wonder if the fact that Alex constantly builds things up to be the most important information ever or how reset wars was the most important work he's ever done and then it's always a bust and means nothing.
I wonder if that has to do anything with him not being able to wake people up.
Maybe people are sick of the bullshit.
jordan holmes
Oh my God, it's not Rand Paul, is it?
dan friesen
I can't say.
jordan holmes
Oh, fuck me.
If it's Rand Paul, I'm going to be furious.
dan friesen
Look, man, Alex has some important news and the most important person in the world to reveal.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I'm going to deliver the most important information ever that if people actually grasp it and get it and understand it, we're going to be able to turn society around and beat this.
But all this other incredible news I've got in front of me, and it's all very important, is a byproduct of the disease that is the new world order.
And so that's where we are, ladies and gentlemen.
I've got to go to rebroadcast for a while because this is just not full of signs.
I may not be able to do the show anymore because I just can't come in here and do it anymore.
I hate it.
I can't stand it.
And I'm sick of just window dressing, talking about all the stuff that's going on.
And just the general public just doesn't even care that we're all falling apart.
I mean, you know, they think it's funny that Klaus Rob's up there murdering everyone.
dan friesen
Oh, God.
We're not going to find out who the most important person in the world is.
jordan holmes
There's got, you know, you remember when I was doing stand-up, you know, sometimes to keep things interesting or keep things fun, they'd be like, we'd be like, you know what?
I'm just going to do none of my material.
I'm just going to do nothing but crowd work tonight.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
And then maybe you'd keep a clock on somebody and be like, ah, you only did 10 out of 20.
If you actually.
Has anybody ever put Alex on a clock for like how long he can just build something up for?
You know, like, how many segments can you go just saying nothing but how important the next thing you're going to say is?
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And he can't even do your job anymore.
jordan holmes
No.
unidentified
I mean, he went so long.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And then he didn't even do it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Brutal.
dan friesen
We'll see if he actually does.
I mean, obviously.
He's got to go to rebroadcast.
That's for sure.
He's going to restart the show later.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
So, see, I don't want to just say a bunch of nasty stuff.
And I'm going to try my best here.
But it's getting hard.
So we got a lot of really good reports here.
And, you know, I'm going to try to relaunch the show later in the hour, but I can't do it right now.
So let's just go ahead.
I tried to come back on.
I just can't do it, guys.
It's let's hear Greg Reese's report from yesterday.
That was a really, really important report about the nanotech they're putting in the shots.
unidentified
Was it?
dan friesen
So let's re-air something we've already aired because I can't do my job.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Wow.
This is admirable.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, I've sometimes been emotionally incapacitated to the point where I cannot do my job.
However, I tried to not do it while I was doing my job.
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
I totally understand people needing to call in sick or take a me day.
jordan holmes
Call in sick?
alex jones
Totally.
dan friesen
Just call in sick.
I think it's worse if you go to your job and then complain about how you need to take a me day.
unidentified
It would have been worse.
dan friesen
To the point where you're actually working against the purpose of what your job is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, you know, when you go to work and you throw a hatchet at the wall, you're in trouble.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's not good.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex is going to go walk around the parking lot.
Sure.
jordan holmes
Because he's got to do it.
dan friesen
Yep.
alex jones
We're going to play Greg Reese's report, and I'm going to go walk around the parking lot and see if I can settle down.
And that's that.
So.
jordan holmes
My God.
alex jones
We'll be back, I guess, after this break.
And I'm going to try to relaunch the show here today.
Infowars.com and newswars.com will still be there.
Hopefully, I don't know how much longer.
And it just doesn't matter.
I guess you've all just got to die.
dan friesen
Really?
alex jones
You don't.
They're going to murder you.
You deserve it.
All of you deserve to die because you don't care.
And Klaus Swab's going to kill your ass.
So get ready to die.
Okay.
And they're going to kill the kids, so we deserve to die.
Okay.
That's basically it.
So enjoy yourselves, everybody.
Here's the clutch.
dan friesen
Wow.
What an intro.
What an intro for Greg Reese.
jordan holmes
God damn.
You just don't get it other places.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
There's nothing corporate that will allow you to do that.
dan friesen
You're fired.
jordan holmes
You're fired.
You're gone.
You don't get multiple those.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
You get one of those and then you're gone.
dan friesen
Let alone it happening over and over and over again.
And honestly, I think I would be totally bored of this if it wasn't within the context of him teasing who's the most important person in the world.
jordan holmes
It's so funny.
I just don't know how you can.
I mean, an actual broadcaster on air just being like, I got to go walk around the parking lot.
dan friesen
And guess what?
You all deserve to die.
jordan holmes
You all deserve to die.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You got to die.
jordan holmes
I should have walked around before I said that.
dan friesen
So Alex takes a breather.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Comes back.
Tries to restart the show.
jordan holmes
Everybody shouldn't.
dan friesen
He's going to get to who the most important person is.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
alex jones
And so who is the most important person in the world?
Start of the show.
I told you I'd come back and do it.
jordan holmes
I told you you all deserve to die.
alex jones
But then I got too angry and didn't.
And you see, here's the problem that it's harder and harder for me to do the show.
I'm 47 and my knowledge base is very advanced now.
So everything I look at, everything I read, everything I see, I have a deep, multifaceted, multi-dimensional understanding of it.
And at a certain level, that becomes painful.
dan friesen
So Alex is not going to reveal who the most important person is, but he's going to complain that he can't do his job because he's so smart it hurts.
jordan holmes
That is.
I mean, I mean, wow.
dan friesen
Amazing.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Just wow.
dan friesen
That's good stuff.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
It's good stuff.
jordan holmes
You're going to look me in the face and tell me that.
dan friesen
He's not going to look you in the face because there's rules against that conviction.
jordan holmes
Well, that's true.
That's true.
That's fair.
dan friesen
But he is going to tell you, I'm so smart it hurts.
jordan holmes
We have to go back to a full home improvement relationship.
Nope.
dan friesen
Can't talk over fence.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right.
dan friesen
Shit.
Yep.
So Alex, man, look.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He just needs to be able to say the right words.
jordan holmes
I quit.
dan friesen
That would be great.
I think he has said those already.
jordan holmes
That's true.
That's true.
dan friesen
The way he's describing what he needs to do in order to defeat the globalists, it almost sounds like he's like, if I can get the spell right, if I can get the word order in the incantation correct, it will work.
This is just ridiculous.
alex jones
I've got this whole thing basically spring-loaded.
I want to say when we come back, that I grasp in my mind, and then if I don't just keep that moment of understanding and all those points I want to make, because I'm not writing this down, I'm not reading a teleprompter.
It all just dissipates like gas into the ether.
And then I don't say the key thing that if I say it just right and explain the thought perfectly or almost perfectly, then the public will grasp it and also absorb it and understand a blueprint for victory, which we need.
And there's nothing more frustrating than knowing you've got the blueprint for victory.
You've proven you can do it.
God's given you the directive and you can't get it done because you are weak.
I'm talking about myself.
So my frustration here is not with the audience, the crew.
My frustration is with the globalists killing everybody and running around enjoying it.
They love it.
See, it hurts us.
They like it.
They have fun doing all this.
Oh, they just love it.
They just love it.
And I have to control myself and not go after them with rage because we're not doing this for them.
They don't deserve our hatred.
We're doing it for the children who we love.
jordan holmes
Oh, the children.
alex jones
But I tell you, the globalists are going to get it now when we come back.
jordan holmes
For the children.
alex jones
I'm going to tell you who the most important person in the world is.
jordan holmes
You are a fucking monster.
alex jones
And if you grasp this, and if you know this, you will have victory.
dan friesen
If you understand this, it will defeat the globalists, that this is the most important person in the world.
jordan holmes
What hour are we in?
dan friesen
We're still in the first hour.
jordan holmes
We're still in the first hour.
unidentified
Alex.
dan friesen
Okay, it was a short walk in the parking lot.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So, but we're still a full.
This is at least 45 minutes into the show.
dan friesen
No, probably in the half-hour range, probably.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Okay.
So we've taken for a while.
dan friesen
You know, it's multiple segments into the show, for sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
When this was supposed to be done already.
jordan holmes
It should have been done so much sooner.
Yeah.
Okay.
dan friesen
Do you have any guesses?
I'd be interested to see where your head's at.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, obviously, I think my guess right now, I'm sticking with Rand Paul.
But that also seems really dumb, which is also why I kind of think it might be true.
dan friesen
You know, you know what I'm saying?
He has been talking about Rand Paul a little bit more.
Right.
He's been trying to bully him.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So that kind of he would be somebody who's on Alex's mind.
jordan holmes
Right.
It could also be somebody who's like the most important person in the world as a target.
You know, like this is the most important person in the world.
And if they're the domino that gets taken out.
dan friesen
See, now that's fascinating because there are multiple ways that you could interpret most of the world.
unidentified
Like most valuable player, yes.
jordan holmes
Yes, indeed.
dan friesen
I'll just say, don't worry about that.
Okay.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
Are we ever going to find out who it is?
dan friesen
We are.
Okay.
We are.
This will pay off.
jordan holmes
Phyllis Schlafly.
Is she dead?
dan friesen
She's dead.
jordan holmes
I'm pretty sure she's dead.
dan friesen
I'm not sure.
I had to look up if Ray Kurzweil was dead.
I'm shocked to report.
He is still alive.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
If it's Betty White, that's going to be beautiful.
dan friesen
I can't say.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
So here's a list.
Alex comes back.
Here's a list of some of the people who might.
jordan holmes
What is this?
alex jones
What is this?
So, who is the most important person in the world today?
And if you understand that point, I know.
So Rosetta Stone is a skeleton cheese into the wider universe.
Oh, my gosh!
An understanding of our tradition and where we're going.
dan friesen
Real quick, I know you're yelling about because it's frustrating.
It's a little bit frustrating how repetitive this is.
jordan holmes
Very repetitive.
dan friesen
I kind of have a little bit of a thick skin built up because I know how repetitive his bullshit is over and over again.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But in this case, I like it.
jordan holmes
No, I find it incredibly grating and annoying.
It is breaking my mind.
dan friesen
It's almost parody.
jordan holmes
It is.
No, it's even more infuriating than it is.
The level of this, like the transparentness of the putting this off is so the methinks you death protests too much does not even come close to covering it.
dan friesen
No.
alex jones
Who is it?
Is it Jeff Bezos?
Is it Elon Musk?
Is it the Queen of England?
Is it Brad Pitt?
Is it Donald Trump?
jordan holmes
Is it?
alex jones
Is it Vladimir Putin?
jordan holmes
Could be.
alex jones
Is it Xi Ji Ping?
unidentified
Maybe.
alex jones
Is it the current Pope?
jordan holmes
Give five more examples.
alex jones
Who is it?
Is it Novak Djokovic?
Who is it?
Who is saying the most truth in the most understandable way that transcends left and right and actually speaks to people in a human?
unidentified
Don't tell me it's fucking Joe Rogan on this planet.
alex jones
And if you know the answer to that, you know the answer to the rest of the story.
dan friesen
Wow.
This is getting to be.
He's moving it around a little bit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Most important person now means like communicating.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Look, this is a riddle.
It's a grand riddle.
jordan holmes
No.
alex jones
Is someone important?
jordan holmes
No, it's a question.
alex jones
$200 million of inflated garbage.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Is someone important because they were the president of the United States like President Trump?
jordan holmes
Yes.
alex jones
Is someone important because they've been in a lot of big movies and are handsome like Brad Pitt?
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
What do you got about Brad Pitt?
jordan holmes
That is how important we are.
alex jones
Is somebody the most important?
Because the way you define who the most important person is says who you are.
There's a big study out that the more celebrity obsessed you are, the lower your IQ and the less money you make.
Translated, the more you believe in the system, the more you go along with its propaganda, The more diseased and dumbed down and poor you are.
And when you go in the poor areas, they're all wearing masks, aren't they?
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
Get to the point.
jordan holmes
What are we talking about?
dan friesen
Well, that study was like a Hungarian study.
It was a small group.
It couldn't even, it doesn't even state conclusive things about being a causal relationship between being interested in celebrities and if you read Us Weekly, you're dead inside.
jordan holmes
Fine, whatever.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex is just obsessed with going off on sidebars like this.
Like, talking about this study and celebrities being dumb.
Or this.
alex jones
Because you see, the establishment wants you to be alone.
The establishment wants you to be dumb.
The establishment wants you to be diseased and die because they see you as a piece of garbage.
Because they see themselves subconsciously as garbage.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
And they believe once they get rid of you and your ugly hovel and your ugly face and your ugly kids in their view that they'll finally be free because you won't be around.
That's their real view.
And just because you got the general mass of people dumbed down, not aware of standing up for themselves, doesn't mean you have a right to kill them just because you're some inbred, occultic globalist that knows the basics of the third dimension.
So that makes you a god because you're willing to crap all over other sentient creatures and keep them in the dark.
That makes you less than a man.
jordan holmes
Talk about you, man.
alex jones
So I ask you again.
unidentified
Ah.
alex jones
Who is the greatest living person in the world?
Who has the greatest potential to empower humanity?
dan friesen
This is such a mess.
Alex has been teasing and rambling this whole episode so far about him revealing who the most important person on earth is, but now he's moving the goalposts.
Apparently, now it's the greatest person on earth or the person with the most potential to empower humanity.
If Alex thinks those things are interchangeable, that's fine, but it also speaks to his subjective beliefs.
Someone else could easily believe that the most important person and the person who has the most potential to empower humanity are two different people, like you touched on.
Like, I think a very strong argument could be made that you can make these separate.
The most important person could actually be a force of evil.
Importance is a value-neutral concept.
So if you were a terrifying dictator who was working against the cause of empowering humanity and you were a threat to everyone, that person could easily be the most important person in the world.
But it's interesting to see how disorganized Alex's thoughts are, even about this clearly intentional tease session he's doing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I just get caught up whenever he's like, oh, they think whenever you're gone, they'll finally be saved.
And it's like, Alex, you think whenever you get rid of all of...
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You just talked about you, man.
That was you.
dan friesen
He does that a bit.
jordan holmes
That was you, dude.
dan friesen
Well, that's what happens when your enemies are imaginary and their plans are things you imagine them doing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is coming from inside the house, isn't it?
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex gets to explaining his criteria for what makes a person the most important.
jordan holmes
See, now I'm interested.
dan friesen
It is a little bit helpful.
jordan holmes
It's a little late.
alex jones
I'm telling you, I don't care if somebody's a movie star.
I don't care if somebody plays football.
dan friesen
That don't impress him much.
alex jones
I detest it so much now.
I don't even want to talk to him.
jordan holmes
You're fine.
alex jones
I don't care if you, what you did in the corrupt system.
I care how much you care about humanity, how much you want to empower people, how much you're a populist, how much you believe in the species made in the image of God.
That's my benchmark.
jordan holmes
That's my sliding off of.
alex jones
That's my pole star.
That's my North Star.
That is my spirit.
That is my anchor.
dan friesen
So I appreciate Alex spelling this out and laying out what his criteria are for the most important person in the world.
Really doesn't make it clear, but it does make it clear to me that this is a subjective opinion Alex has.
It doesn't really mean anything.
Whenever he gives this honorific title, it just means Alex likes this person.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, really, when he said he's going to clarify what it takes to be the most important person, he's just created more questions for me to ask about what it is his new subjective measurements actually mean.
dan friesen
Well, I think that you should keep that in mind, but also throw it right the fuck out the window.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's fair.
dan friesen
Because Alex, it's shifting around a little bit.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
So I ask you again: it isn't just, oh, who's the most famous?
Who's the richest?
That's not the winners.
What does it prophet a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul?
Nothing.
You got a lot of stats.
In the most loving, real, focused, Christ-like way, balanced.
Because I'm not Christ-like at times.
You can say who's the most effective human for humans right now.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
And that'd be Joe Rogan or Alex Jones for a pro-human future.
Tucker Carlson, a close third.
But that's not who's the most effective for humans at this time.
Who's the most important?
dan friesen
So I guess now the most important person title that Alex is giving out is really better described as person disseminating ideas that Alex likes who is also not a well-known lunatic or bigot, so they fly under most people's radar.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Is that how we describe the most important person?
jordan holmes
I think that's exactly how he's describing it.
dan friesen
So who do you do?
Any other guesses?
Because we're getting more information.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, now that the bar is set so low, I almost want to say it's James O'Keefe or something.
dan friesen
It's Ross Perot.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Absolutely.
That's an interesting question.
Thank you, Alex.
Thank you.
Thank you for bringing that up.
dan friesen
That's an interesting guess you have, James O'Keefe.
Now, do you have any other guesses?
So I want to try and get a galaxy of thoughts.
jordan holmes
You know, I mean, God, I want to say it's Steve Pieczenik, but I just can't.
I just can't.
dan friesen
Alex, that timeout's going to last a little bit longer.
jordan holmes
Is it even worse?
Is it Kirsch himself?
Is it that shitty substack that is the most important person in the world?
dan friesen
I would suspect that when Alex isn't reading actively a Steve Kirch headline, he forgets who he is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would make sense.
dan friesen
But also, interestingly, another.
These Steve's are terrible on the other side.
jordan holmes
There are a lot of Steve terribles on InfoWars.
dan friesen
So maybe this will help you out.
There's a couple more clues about the most important person.
alex jones
Who's the most important human in the world?
jordan holmes
The owl.
alex jones
Because that human's going to be a model for us.
Because this person is us, and we are that person.
And once we realize that, we have the keys to destiny.
And so this has to be done.
This has to be said on air because I've seen it.
I've known it.
I've felt it.
I've understood it.
And now I've continued to witness it.
But I'm going to first tell you about this person.
This person does not want to be president of the United States.
This person cannot stand Hollywood.
dan friesen
Okay.
Fine.
I want to tell you something.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I actually knew who it was immediately.
jordan holmes
Okay, fine.
dan friesen
Well, at least I thought I did.
jordan holmes
You thought you did, and then you were confirmed correctly.
Yes, of course you were.
Of course you were.
You're the only person who knew immediately.
dan friesen
Okay.
I don't want to pat myself on the back too much.
But do you have any other ideas?
Like each time there's a new clue, I'll see if you can.
jordan holmes
No, no, I don't.
I don't.
I can't play this game because I don't get to know the answer in advance.
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
Fair enough, but I think if I didn't know the answer, I'd still have a couple of thoughts spinning around.
jordan holmes
That's why it's not fair.
Because when you have those thoughts spinning around in your head, I'm not behind you being like, oh, who do you think it is now?
Who do you think it is?
dan friesen
Trying to do that to embarrass you.
jordan holmes
I know.
alex jones
I understand.
jordan holmes
I'm just feeling a lot of pressure.
I want to get it right.
All right.
I have that kind of brain, man.
dan friesen
Here's some more clues.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
This person cannot stand New York rich people.
They cannot stand Hollywood rich people.
They cannot stand the establishment.
They don't want to hang around with the system.
They don't want to be embraced by the system.
They are disgusted by the system.
They are abhorrent of it.
And that's why the system, when they attack them, says, oh, they're a blue blood.
Oh, they're part of the system.
Oh, oh, look, they're establishment.
dan friesen
Oh, a lot of.
unidentified
Oh.
jordan holmes
Oh.
I know who it is.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Ted Turner.
Is he alive?
dan friesen
The depopulationist in charge.
unidentified
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
It's about time for him to come back.
dan friesen
Ted Turner is on the side of the Patriots now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he is.
dan friesen
No, because I think that you probably should disinclude him because of all the talk about billionaires.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
But he's a blue blood.
True.
I mean, oh, but that makes me think it's Tucker Carlson again.
dan friesen
Well, maybe this will help.
We can disclude one person.
jordan holmes
Ooh, John F. Kennedy Jr.
He's still alive.
dan friesen
Alex isn't going to publicly comment on that, but we can exclude one person from the running.
alex jones
Elon Musk is not the most important person in the world.
dan friesen
Agreed.
alex jones
He can become the most important person.
jordan holmes
Well, he thinks he is.
So he disqualified him immediately.
alex jones
Just like that.
He can become the most potent person in the world.
Just like that.
And he understands that and is now moving towards that.
And as we all move towards that, that center of pro-human gravity, we then learn the secret that I will tell you when we come back in the final segment of this.
Who the most important person in the world is.
But I want you to understand something.
This isn't hype.
This isn't exaggeration.
This isn't BS.
This isn't any of that.
We must recognize from amongst our people who is the best at promoting humanity.
jordan holmes
This is, God damn it.
dan friesen
This is taking on.
jordan holmes
Do you know what I mean?
dan friesen
It's somewhere between grandiose and sacrilegious at this point.
jordan holmes
I re-listened to the Andy Daly podcast pilot project, the episode where they did the long story.
dan friesen
Detective Tony.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
And this is exactly like the moment whenever the cop under Shrimp Scheller, every time he says, who is the most, god damn it?
Who is our dude?
dan friesen
What's your job?
jordan holmes
Okay, I showed you.
I'm a shrimp sheller.
What do you do?
I say, oh, shrimp.
So, wait, what do you do when you go to work?
dan friesen
I shell the shrimp.
jordan holmes
Okay, so if somebody comes up to you and asks you, I shell them.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It is a little bit exactly that.
dan friesen
It's a little bit like playing handball with the curtains, as they say.
You're like trying to figure out, like, all right, who is this person after the break?
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Now, before he goes to break, Alex says this.
This is why I kind of think it's on the verge of sacrilegious.
alex jones
So when we come back, I'll tell you who the most important person in the world is.
And I want you to understand it.
And I want it to sink in.
And I want it to burn into your cells.
And I want you to then ask yourself, is this true to God?
Is this true to the Holy Spirit?
And if you're dialed into the same thing I am, you'll get the answer back that absolutely.
And the example of people like this is the example for all of us.
dan friesen
We got to live like this person who's the most important person in the world.
We have to mold ourselves after them because that's what God wants us to do.
jordan holmes
Okay.
So I assume it's Jesus Christ.
Otherwise, this would be a little bit strugglesome.
dan friesen
I never even considered it.
Not for a second did I think that that was who Alex was going to say.
When I was listening to the episode, and even as we were discussing it, that didn't cross my mind.
jordan holmes
Never crossed your mind.
Nope.
alex jones
Nope.
dan friesen
Well, that sounds about right.
Not at all.
So we're back from break, and Alex is going to give other people some bad news.
You are not the most important person in the world.
unidentified
Joe Troop.
alex jones
So I've thought long and hard about this, and I know I'm right.
And you'll know I'm right as well.
Who is the most important person in the world?
It's not Donald Trump.
jordan holmes
Kate McKinnon.
alex jones
It's not the fake Pope.
jordan holmes
Which fake Pope?
alex jones
It's not anybody in Hollywood.
It's certainly not the poor little reanimated corpse, Joe Biden, or his fake Vice President Kamala Harris.
It's not Vladimir Putin.
Because Vladimir Putin has Russia, the largest landmass in the world, and he has a lot of good people, and he's trying to build a Christian future and going against the globalists, but he's not in America.
dan friesen
So yeah, Putin could be it, but he's not in America.
jordan holmes
He's not in America.
Yeah.
Would he have gotten like a letter from somebody if he had just said Russia and not Russia, the largest landmass in the world?
dan friesen
I think he just likes to add that little.
Well, I mean, you know, I'm watching this British baking show, and I'm like, decoration is important.
jordan holmes
That's true.
Presentation is something.
dan friesen
Yeah, I kind of understand.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
No, I get you.
dan friesen
Are you getting anywhere closer?
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Boris Johnson.
dan friesen
Here's some more.
No, he hates Boris Johnson.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
dan friesen
Here's some new clues.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
The globalists have seized America.
The globalists have occupied America.
If we could take the country back peacefully without the revolution they're trying to artificially trigger around January 6th, then we could really have a future of peace and justice.
We could have a real shot at that with Russia and with China and with Asia and the Middle East and Africa and Latin America.
And I know the individual that I'm going to say is the most important person in the world has that same idea and has that same thought and wants that.
And when I recognize this individual, it's not to put him up on a pedestal, but it's to recognize who's done the best, clean, professional, level-headed job despite all the attacks and what I know they've gone through behind the scenes that people don't know about.
Even stuff they didn't tell me I know about.
Some of it they didn't tell me.
To understand that that's a benchmark.
dan friesen
So Alex knows this person.
jordan holmes
Is it like Ron DeSantis or something?
Is it one of the shittier GOP House members?
Is it like Kevin McCarthy or something?
dan friesen
Can you imagine if it wasn't?
jordan holmes
No, of course not.
Of course not.
dan friesen
It's Jim Jordan.
jordan holmes
That would be fucking hilarious.
dan friesen
All right, we have one last clip.
Before it's revealed.
jordan holmes
These are less than helpful clips.
dan friesen
But this one actually, Alex, completely shifts what the point you did.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
So who is the most important guy?
jordan holmes
Damn it.
alex jones
The most important thing in the world is the people.
That's where we get the world populism.
jordan holmes
I was waiting for it.
alex jones
A politics of the people.
What's common sense, what works, what's equitable, what's fair, what makes sense.
God's law.
Common law.
A Bill of Rights, Constitution, Declaration of Independence.
Those are all just examples of that, just manifestations of people's will.
So who's the greatest populist of them all?
dan friesen
So now it's who's the greatest populist of them all.
Instead of the most important person, the greatest.
jordan holmes
I mean, I'm going to go with Roots Manuva.
No?
dan friesen
I want to say that you have been done dirty by Alex and that you have already said the name of the person.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
All right.
Do you want to make a last guess before it's revealed?
jordan holmes
Of the names that I have said, I'm going to disqualify Sinead O'Connor.
Yes.
alex jones
Good call.
jordan holmes
And that's the only one.
No, I don't know.
dan friesen
You don't?
jordan holmes
No.
Who is it?
dan friesen
Well, let's find out.
Here we go.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
So who's the greatest populist of them all?
In America and as an example around the world, who's listened to in Japan and in South Africa and in Mexico and in Canada and in the United States?
Who all over the world, when I talk off record to world leaders in South America, like Brazil or in Eastern Europe, who do they talk about and who's unifying them to have a pro-human future against the great reset in the new world order?
Well, you know who it is.
It's Tucker Carlson, ladies and gentlemen.
What?
Tucker Carlson.
You said he was third person in the world.
jordan holmes
You said he was third.
dan friesen
I told you he got Don Derby.
jordan holmes
He was third.
He said it's Joe Rogan, me, and then Tucker Carlson in a close third.
I was there.
dan friesen
Well, I know, but he was talking about who's the most effective.
jordan holmes
That's fucking bullshit.
I was, I, from, because you.
You were right.
Because for me, it was either Joe Rogan or Tucker Carlson.
dan friesen
Yeah, no shit.
jordan holmes
Like from the start.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But come on, man.
That's fucking bullshit.
dan friesen
I didn't even think it was Joe Rogan.
Honestly, I thought it was Tucker.
jordan holmes
I'm sure it was Joe Rogan.
I couldn't imagine it being Tucker.
Tucker's too much of a dick.
dan friesen
Well, I think he's exactly who Alex wants to associate himself with right now.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
But also, like, look, I don't want to brag.
I'm not bragging, but I knew from the jump it was Tucker.
Oh, fucking course.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Second thought that I have is like, Alex has so little to talk about on this episode that he spent an hour building up to saying that Tucker is the most important person in the world.
His show is so dumb.
But, God, that's great.
jordan holmes
That's amazing.
dan friesen
That refreshed me.
That reinvigorated me on my.
jordan holmes
You know, I mean, this couple weeks ago, Alex was talking about how the anger is just, it's all juice.
That's what it is.
That's what fuels him.
This has been one of the more infuriating hours of Alex content in my entire life.
dan friesen
But see, that's what makes, that's what makes it fun for me.
jordan holmes
So mad.
Right.
dan friesen
I've transmuted my anger into entertainment for the people as manifested through your anger.
jordan holmes
Right.
That's great.
Explained our show.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex talks a little bit about why Tucker gets this little bit of a title.
alex jones
Somebody like Tucker Carlson knows that Ted Cruz got a talking point from Garland and from the establishment, and that they are preparing to claim that the American people are about to stage terror attacks and try to assassinate Biden.
I told you that months ago, it's in the news today.
And they're going to try to sew us up and bring in martial law.
And the lawyer, the Bush minion, Ted Cruz, who poses as a patriot all these years, who is a wolf in sheep's clothing, Tucker Carlson believes, and he's got better sources than I, I believe him, has to be cut out and destroyed.
And like a populist general, Tucker Carlson just tore his guts up.
dan friesen
Yep.
So it is all just a reaction to Tucker's interview with Ted Cruz the night before.
jordan holmes
Man, I mean, that is, it is such a huge, that really is like a huge interview, though.
Like the idea to me of being alive in the building for the first time in my life, in my entire political career, really being afraid that a mob would tear the walls down and kill me.
And then a year later to have to sit across from that whiny, sniveling piece of shit, Tucker Carlson, and lick his feet.
That is, if me, like in the body of me right now, I'm ready to kill Tucker Carlson.
If that was me and Tucker Carlson was like, if I was Ted Cruz, I would have leaped across the table and started strangling him.
I almost died.
dan friesen
You have to recognize how weak Ted Cruz is.
jordan holmes
Man, so weak.
dan friesen
His track record is pretty shitty.
jordan holmes
Oh, it's bad, but that's bad, man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex talks a little bit more about that interview, actually.
He has a slightly different take on it than you do.
alex jones
Tucker Carlson knows the terror attacks are coming.
Tucker Carlson knows the stage civil war is coming.
Tucker Carlson knows the big event's coming and the end of America.
And he's trying to stop it and making an issue in front of all the other conservatives and all the Christians and all the Fox News Republicans and saying, stop putting up with Mitch McConnell.
And with Ted Cruz and with Rand Paul.
He's come out against the vaccine.
It doesn't work.
It's dangerous to poison.
And Josh Hawley and all of them because they all fear the liberal media.
They all fear the George Soros system.
When they better start fearing us.
And that's the instinct Tucker Carlson's got at the top of his game.
I know off record, not from others, almost paid nothing to get actual free will and have his own voice on Fox.
dan friesen
I think Alex kind of let slip there what actually makes him think that Tucker is the most important person in the world.
It's that in Tucker, Alex sees a person who actually has the ability to humiliate senators and essentially sway power on the right wing.
He sees someone who, if he can piggyback it, Alex can use to reestablish the illusion that he has any effect on the real world.
If Tucker can humiliate Ted Cruz and Alex pretends to be totally in line with Tucker and secretly his best friend, then it's kind of like Alex inspired Tucker to humiliate Ted Cruz and thus Alex is really the one with the power to sway politics.
This is a fine game for Alex to play and though I think it stinks of desperation, it may well work a little bit for a while.
There is an essential problem with this though, and it's that people should ask themselves if they're in Alex's audience, if Tucker and Alex are such good friends and on exactly the same page, why has Tucker never had Alex on any of his shows lately on any of these?
He has multiple shows.
He has a radio show.
He has two TV shows.
Why doesn't Tucker show up as a guest on Infowars periodically if they're a couple of the very few comrades in this fight against Alex's enemies?
Possibly more bitingly, why wasn't Alex interviewed for Tucker's documentary about January 6th?
He was at the Capitol, and clearly Tucker had no problem interviewing shifty weirdos since he had Ali Alexander interviewed in it.
The fact that Tucker seems to have a staunch resistance to being publicly personally associated with Alex should be something that causes the audience to ask themselves some serious questions.
Like, this is Trump all over again, basically.
Trump came on Alex's show once to sell his book in December 2015, and he never came back.
And he never publicly associated himself with Alex in any way.
The narrative that Trump and Alex were on the same page came almost entirely from Alex's stories.
And in the end, I think it's pretty safe to say that most of them were made up.
Now Alex has to jettison that mainstream avatar for him to live vicariously through because Trump likes the vaccine.
So it seems like maybe Alex is trying to lean hard into glomming onto Tucker in order to preserve some image of relevance in the actual world.
Also, there's absolutely no chance that Tucker makes almost no money at Fox.
According to CNN, back in 2020, he was making $10 million a year, largely based on the fact that his show drove 16% of the channel's entire ad revenue.
That number probably went up a bit, but maybe has dipped since because one of his main sponsors was My Pillow, and Mike Lindell might not be shelling out as much ad money these days as he was in the fun salad days.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, with Tucker, though, he's at that type of money that you don't even, his salary, $10 million a year, is nothing to him.
Like he owns part of Fox fucking news.
You know, if he sells out, he's got a billion dollars.
dan friesen
Well, and before he even came in, he's an heir to a large fortune.
jordan holmes
Yeah, money is imaginary to him.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But, you know, it's not.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Bow ties.
jordan holmes
Day.
dan friesen
So, yeah, Alex spent an hour talking about this.
jordan holmes
That was an amazing performance, truly.
There's a certain part of me that respects how hard.
dan friesen
It's a commitment to a bad bit.
jordan holmes
It is.
dan friesen
It's not.
jordan holmes
It's a commitment to a bad bit.
dan friesen
There's a difference between somebody who really muscles through for a bit that's worth it.
And then there's this, which is just like, yes, you will keep saying, I'll tell you after the birth.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
And then rambling about bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, it's not Neil Hamburger, you know, but boy, it's at no point in time did he ever think, man, I got to stop doing this.
I just got it.
I just can't do this.
unidentified
Probably not.
dan friesen
And I think a big part of it, too, is that Alex was keenly aware that, like, if I do this, maybe people will report on me doing an hour about how Tucker's the most important person in the world, which will publicly associate me with him and get me more attention.
And that's exactly what he starts talking about.
unidentified
Right.
alex jones
Now, I want listeners to understand something.
Media Matters and Newsweek and CNN are going to pick up what I said and did in the last hour.
Praising Tucker Carlson.
They're going to say, Alex Jones, I can see the headlines.
Blows Tucker Carlson, something like that.
Probably already out there.
I mean, I know how they operate.
That's not what I did.
I celebrated humanity.
dan friesen
He's just, he's begging for them to write these headlines.
jordan holmes
Somebody, please.
dan friesen
Somebody, please.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's very sad.
That's very, very sad.
jordan holmes
That deflates every bit of enjoyment I had.
dan friesen
That's, yeah, and I think there's a reality to it that you kind of got to wrestle with.
But at the same time, man, fun.
jordan holmes
Yeah, very fun.
Very fun.
You just got to leave the subtext subtext, man.
Don't make the subtext text.
That's just a simple rule.
dan friesen
So Alex says something really weird in this next clip that I think I don't think he actually believes.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
We need to celebrate the people that tell the truth.
We need to promote the populace that are pro-human.
Not the people that tell you they're fighting racism all day.
Not the people that tell you they're fighting for your whatever gay marriage all day.
Those are all red herrings.
But people that are promoting a pro-human future period for everybody.
Anybody that talks about groups is attacking humanity.
Anybody that talks about humanity as a whole and believing in ourselves and coming together is the good guys.
dan friesen
So if you talk about groups, you're the bad guy.
If you talk about humanity as a whole, you're good.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Now, I know that Alex talks about white people all the fucking time.
jordan holmes
Yes, he does.
dan friesen
And I put this together in five minutes.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
But boy, there have been plenty of hate crimes against white people.
And it doesn't matter, ladies and gentlemen, because the leftist judges and the leftist media and the leftist system time and time again say you go free.
Before election, Putin offers 8.6 billion to Russians to have more babies.
Here, the left is saying, if you're white especially, don't have more babies.
I've seen this new movement have bumper stickers or signs put up around town that say it's okay to be white.
They have social workers that ask them questions under this.
Are mommy and daddy spanking you?
Are they yelling at you?
Because we've got a nice foster home, especially if you're blonde-haired and blue-eyed like this little girl.
She better be careful because they can get half a mill for them.
Whites have the highest IQ.
On average.
Who's really being targeted racially is white people.
Does that mean I hate black people?
No.
dan friesen
I mean, that's just from five minutes of looking in our clips.
And also, I miscut that because when he says there's bumper stickers of it's okay to be white, the next thing he says is, I'm going to make a shirt that says, Yeah, I mean, like, he doesn't care.
It's a red herring when it's sort of non-whites.
Well, when it's when it's groups that he is not a part of, discussing issues that are important to them and advocating for their own rights.
When it's white people, it's not really even a group.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Or the alternative is that Alex doesn't think that people who are not white are not part of the totality of humanity.
alex jones
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I guess he could choose whichever he wants either way.
He's a fucking racist.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex kind of realizes, oh, man, I spent an hour of my show doing that Tucker thing.
jordan holmes
That was bad.
dan friesen
I might want to cover other things.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I just spent a lot of time on that, and I wanted to get a tech CEO on right when their platform was exploding.
It just got launched, I don't know, eight months ago or so.
And so the CEO or the head of founder of Getter is going to be joining us to talk about a whole flotilla of issues coming up next segment.
dan friesen
Yeah, so Jason Miller, the CEO of Gitter, who used to be a part of the Trump administration.
jordan holmes
He's got some flotillas to bring about.
dan friesen
So many flotillas.
jordan holmes
Jason.
dan friesen
A tranche of flotillas.
jordan holmes
A tranche of flotillas tossed about.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, this is just pathetic.
Alex is just trying to piggyback on what Rogan did when he drove traffic to Gitter.
jordan holmes
Yep.
alex jones
And welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.
We have Jason Miller with us.
He's an American communications strategist, political advisor, and CEO, best known as the chief spokesperson for the Donald Trump 2016 presidential campaign and transition of Donald Trump.
He was a senior advisor to the Trump 2020 re-election campaign.
In March of 2021, Miller became a contributor for Newsmax.
Miller left his position as Trump spokesperson in June of 2021 to become the CEO of the social network Getter, G-E-T-T-R.
And we've been on there a while, have hundreds of thousands of followers, but I saw my good friend Joe Rogan last week started really promoting it, got millions of people to go over there, and that is very, very exciting.
So we want to promote independent groups out there.
dan friesen
Yep, got the Joe Rogan stamp of approval, so now we're going to promote it as well.
Sweet.
So look, it's supposed to be this free speech platform, but in December, they kicked Nick Fuentes off the site.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
After that happened, Gitter also banned users from posting the word Groyper because Fuentes' fans were posting too much about how he got kicked off.
Fun.
Also, just after Gitter launched, we should not forget that their API was so weak that hackers were able to scrape personal information off a ton of users.
They got hacked immediately.
So also, there was this Stanford Internet Observatory Cyber Policy Center.
They did a review of Getter's operations in August 2021, and they found some kind of some fun stuff and then also some not fun stuff.
Fun stuff, quote, Gitter markets itself as a non-biased social network where users are able to post content more freely than Twitter.
In some ways, however, Gitter is more restrictive with content policy than the platform it contrasts itself with.
For example, in the app, but not on the website, users were initially prevented from posting expletives, presented with an error message of, sorry, we don't allow abusive words.
jordan holmes
You fundamentally don't understand your audience, sir.
Abuse is the point.
dan friesen
Now, more troubling, less funny, this report also found, quote, very few, if any, mechanisms for detecting spam, violent content, pornography, and child exploitation imagery are present.
Gitter instead appears to be relying on community reporting models, which has not proved successful.
Essentially, there is a program that can just entirely block images that are in a database of child exploitation imagery.
And sites like Twitter have that software.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And there are trial images that aren't child exploitation images that are in that data set that are used by researchers like people at the cyber policy center in order to test if people are using that software.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Right.
Okay.
Okay.
I gotcha.
dan friesen
And so they used these test images on Gitter and they were able to post them.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Which means that they don't have these sort of standard blocks on this.
jordan holmes
So if I understand correctly, their first thought was no swears.
And then their next thought was child exploitation is fine.
dan friesen
I don't know if they would be saying it's fine, but they didn't do the requisite steps that most people use in order to safeguard against this concept.
jordan holmes
It's so weird that somebody from the Trump administration would just go off all half-cocked without a full support structure in place.
dan friesen
Seems very strange.
jordan holmes
That's odd.
dan friesen
Yep.
So anyway, also, there's some fun stuff in this interview.
One large question is like, hey, dude, you worked for the Trump administration.
Why isn't Trump on Gitter?
jordan holmes
That would be a big question.
alex jones
So I don't get into any inside baseball, but why isn't Trump promoting Getter?
How do we get him over there?
jason miller
Yeah, so two parts of that answer, Alex, and I'll just be very blunt and upfront with you.
Even before I formally launched Getter, I was in negotiations with President Trump to try to bring him to the platform.
And obviously, he has a big name.
Everyone knows that President Trump is ratings gold.
Everything he touches turns into something that's fantastic and exciting.
I put a big, big offer in the front.
When I say big, like you can go buy a sports franchise big, somebody else came along and made an even bigger offer.
And that's the thing with President Trump: he very much is the dealmaker in chief.
dan friesen
Trump is viable.
jordan holmes
That is the thing about the person you want to be your commander-in-chief is a complete lack of loyalty in the face of a larger offer.
Yeah.
That's just America.
dan friesen
Also, Trump is endorsing the vaccine.
Alex shouldn't want him on Gitter.
I mean, what is even happening at the moment?
jordan holmes
Nothing matters anymore.
dan friesen
Nope.
So anyway, this is a free speech platform.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Except for they kicked off Nick Fuentes.
Well, interesting.
They also have some other restrictions.
jason miller
Really, our kind of value proposition is the fact that we're the free speech platform where nobody is going to get canceled or sent to digital jail or deplatformed or algorithmed for speaking your political opinion.
And you really hit the nail on the head up front where we do not allow pornography.
We do not allow ISIS.
Unlike Twitter, we do not allow the Taliban or the Ayatollah or the political director for Hamas.
But if people want to come on and express their political opinions, then they can.
There has to be a real digital town score, not this nonsense BS where Dorsey and Zuckerberg and those guys say you don't mention climate change or as long as you don't mention election fraud or you don't mention these tyrannical vax mandates, then you can have free speech.
dan friesen
My dude, all those things are widely discussed on Twitter.
I mean, very easy to find tons of climate change denial, vaccine denial, election denial.
Now, yeah, it's interesting the way that he's defining free speech.
Speech I like no pornography, whatever, I guess it's a family site.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Yeah, yes.
dan friesen
You have no Muslim extremism in quotes, but you're really going to just cater this to white extremists.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
That's what we're trying to say.
Free speech meaning white people own.
dan friesen
But then not people who are so overt as Nick Fuentes because you're running a website that could get in trouble.
jordan holmes
Listen, we want a white supremacist website that doesn't have any overt white supremacists on there.
We don't want to be stormfront.
On.
dan friesen
We want to create this thing that caters to the people who are kicked off Twitter, but then we're going to have to kick them off if they behave the way that they did when they got kicked off Twitter.
All right.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Seems like you got a good business model.
jordan holmes
You got it.
dan friesen
So anyway, you also can't use some words.
jason miller
But as long as you're able to essentially control yourself and not threaten illegal activity or go into the racial and religious epithets, you have a welcome place here.
jordan holmes
Then what's free speech mean?
What does it mean to you?
It just means that I can't say capitalism's bad.
That's what free speech is.
dan friesen
Well, I think to him, it's that they want to be able to be in charge of the social media platform and be able to restrict things that they want to restrict as opposed to the things that Twitter sees fit to restrict.
jordan holmes
Things I like, things I don't like.
Yes.
I have thoughts.
My notes are.
dan friesen
I find this to be an incredibly boring prospect.
Do not believe that this website is going to be any like we've done this over and over again.
Parlor, Gab, all this stuff.
jordan holmes
The whole reason they like Twitter is because there are liberals for them to bitch at.
dan friesen
To argue with.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
And if you put them alone, they won't like it.
There's no one to bitch at.
That's the whole point.
They just start bitching at each other.
dan friesen
They're not to antagonize because that's a sport.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's the whole point.
That's the game.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
We would love you to stay on Gutter.
dan friesen
So much of the social media experience for a lot of folks is based on trying to rile other people up because it's funny for them.
That's the whole thing.
And I think that sucks, but in a vacuum where it's all people trying to fuck with each other, it's just not as effective.
jordan holmes
And you're so close to gutter.
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
It's a bad name choice.
dan friesen
So Alex, I don't care about this guy's interview.
I don't really give a shit at all.
jordan holmes
He's shitty.
dan friesen
So Alex comes back.
He has spent quite a while interviewing Gitter.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He spent an hour talking.
jordan holmes
I've changed my mind about who the most important person is.
dan friesen
He's steadfast on that.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
But man, he has not done a whole lot on his show.
alex jones
Now, before I get into that, because there's a lot of stuff coming in, a lot of breaking news, a lot of stuff I want to hit coming up at the bottom of the hour.
I got to talk about something.
I got to talk about our biggest problem in InfoWars and who the main problem is.
And it's me.
It's Alex Jones.
unidentified
Yep.
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, I agree.
alex jones
I know a lot of ways to reach more people.
I know a lot of ways to get more information out.
And I know what I've got to do to win.
I mean, I'm on a path that if I follow it, we will win.
And yesterday I plugged 30 seconds in four hours.
Today I've not plugged during the main show.
People say, well, you got all these ads.
Everybody knows people don't tune into the ads.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, let's see.
I don't know if this is entirely accurate.
I wasn't really paying attention, but like you don't get to give yourself credit for not plugging when you storm out on the show.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there is that.
There is that.
dan friesen
I feel like that balanced.
jordan holmes
I mean, you got one really big, long plug for Tucker Carlson, really.
dan friesen
An hour-long one.
jordan holmes
An hour-long one.
dan friesen
So this is Alex, his response essentially to the news breaking on the Huffington Post.
Sebastian Murdoch on Friday released an article that covered the financial documents that Alex and Infowars turned over in the process of discovery in the phase of the Sandy Hook case they're in.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
The headline is, quote, Alex Jones' Infowars store made $165 million over three years records show, which is fair, but it also leads to a number of inaccurate and possibly just hasty conclusions that I'd like to touch on before Alex even gets into this.
The first thing is that this spreadsheet that was covered in the story, it only reflects sales numbers.
This says nothing about profit or actual money brought in by InfoWars above expenses.
It's very unclear from the available information what kind of profit margin Alex has on these sales, so the actual amount this money reflects InfoWars bringing in could be a number that's within a range, and it's really hard to determine where we are inside that range.
That being said, Alex, the amount of money that he's making after expenses is still a very high amount of money.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
But this number, this 165 million, is also split up over the course of three years, and Alex probably has massive overhead from payroll to lawyers to business-related tank expenses.
He also constantly runs free shipping specials, and there's a column in this spreadsheet that is sales shipping.
You know, if that reflects some expense that he has to cover from free shipping, they could be looking at a decrease of over $7.5 million in this time period.
The impression that I get from these numbers is that I actually would have expected them to be higher.
$165 million actually seems low to me based on what I kind of thought was going on.
jordan holmes
No, you're not wrong.
dan friesen
People don't engage in this kind of shithead grifting that Alex does if it's not massively profitable.
So I'm not sure that any of these sales figures really surprise me that much.
Another thing that really confused me about the discussion surrounding this spreadsheet is the impression that it reflects a sudden and massive jump in sales in November 2015.
The beginning of the spreadsheet is for September 18th, 2015, and it shows $15 worth of sales.
The next entry is for October 5th, 2015, which shows $81.90 in sales, which kind of implies that there weren't any sales in between.
Then, by late November, you're looking at sales over $30,000 a day, and it just goes up from there, occasionally topping $100,000 until April 2016, where it gets pretty routinely 100,000 per day, that pattern.
Some people have suggested that he started making money on the shop around this time, but that's just not possible.
The Infowars store, be it primarily operated at InfoWarsStore.com or InfowarsShop.com, has existed since at least 2010.
And an article from 2010 in Texas Monthly discusses a claim from Alex that he made $1.5 million in ad revenue and sales from the store in the past year.
It's inconceivable that he could be getting periodic sales of less than $100 a day and some days apparently not bringing in any sales at all in this period prior to September 2015.
Then you have to consider the money bombs that he did and has done over the years, which predate the time period this spreadsheet covers.
Money isn't reflected anywhere.
I can't prove this, but my best guess is that this set of data reflects the migration of sales to a different account than they were previously counted in.
I can only theorize on this point, but it seems really bizarre to me that this document begins literally at the exact same time that Ted Anderson, the owner of Midas Resources and Genesis Communications, which syndicates Alex's show and was his primary sponsor, was in court dealing with a case that would lead to him losing his license to sell precious metals.
That case began on September 11th, 2015, and Alex's money bomb in 2015 was on September 16th.
jordan holmes
That's right.
dan friesen
It's very difficult for me to believe that this timing isn't a coincidence.
I mean, it could be, but it seems plausible to me that prior to Ted's legal problems coming to a head, their finances might have been more intertwined than you would expect.
And after Ted was no longer able to engage in his primary business, Infowars started keeping their finances much more separate.
Just on a very basic level, they raised about a million dollars in that money bomb, and that money is absolutely not reflected in this spreadsheet, even though in theory it does cover the time period after the bomb.
It should be in there.
Another thing that's important to remember is that this spreadsheet is barely labeled at all, and it's really up to the person looking at it to try and deduce exactly what these numbers show.
For instance, one column says total sales, but nowhere in this document is explained what this is the total sales of.
It's assumed that this is the total sales from the Infowars store, but that's not concretely shown in the document itself.
It's a pretty good assumption that this is showing Infowars store sales, but it's still a little bit of an assumption.
One point I want to make about the Huffington Post article is that a bit of context is missing.
For instance, the article contains this paragraph: quote, the gamble of backing Trump appeared to pay off.
Of the more than three years of data reviewed by HuffPost, Infowars' most profitable days happened around the 2016 presidential election.
The day of the election, November 8th, the InfoWars store more than doubled its sales from the previous day, making a total of $660,000.
The next day, after Trump won, more than 8,700 orders were placed on the InfoWars website, totaling nearly $850,000 in sales.
It's fine to connect this surge in sales to supporting Trump, but it's also important to point out that InfoWars did a 52-hour marathon over the course of those days, which probably has an increase in sales a bit.
You know, it have that impact.
That is an important context to why the sales are so high.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
It is, it is, it was weird because I couldn't read the, I mean, obviously the conceit of our show, but I couldn't avoid seeing some of the numbers and then going over like we talked about him during that time period and seeing like little things that don't quite make sense in that context, you know?
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And I think, I think that's, you know, the sense that I get from it is like, okay, this is interesting as probably a minimum.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it's a minimum, but then also there's obviously expenses that are taken out of it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Right.
So I don't know.
I think it gives a very fascinating glimpse, but I also don't think it, I think it raises more questions than it answers.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, you're right.
It seems low.
It seems low.
dan friesen
And the time period before this, he was still making a ton of money.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
The stuff with Dr. Group and the supplements was going back to at least 2013.
jordan holmes
No, in 2014 and 20, yeah, that era, I remember Dr. Group being very happy.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think that there is a broader picture that is not available from the information that we have.
And I would be interested in more information as it comes out.
But I do think that the timing of this document starting right when Ted Anderson lost his license and Alex did that money bomb, if it's a coincidence, it's an amazing coincidence.
jordan holmes
It would be an astonishing coincidence, like a very lucky one, too.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex rants about money.
Of course he does.
And look, he doesn't really want money.
alex jones
And so we've never hidden how much money we bring in.
I've told you on air.
Yeah, last year we sold $30 something million worth of food and we made less than 10 million.
Doesn't matter.
It went into what we're doing.
I told you I sold my house to fund the money into this.
My bigger house.
Have a smaller house.
I never liked the big house.
I got it as an investment.
Wait, I'm not.
So then it doesn't mean it's not a leftist that's ashamed of money.
I'm not a leftist that's ashamed of wealth.
Hell, if you made it and you did it, and it's great.
You make a better invention.
Everybody buys it.
You got a freaking spaceship.
That's great.
But my mission's not to just have a bunch of money.
That's way down the line of my hierarchy of needs.
My mission is to build an infrastructure to resist the new world order and take them on.
And they know that.
dan friesen
Man, nothing screams, I only want to make money to build an anti-new world order infrastructure like Alex having to distinguish between which of his multiple houses he allegedly had to sell to stay on air.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it was the investment property.
Let's make sure that we all know that it was money he spent on a home no one could live in.
dan friesen
The fact that he was able to sell this house is clear evidence that he never actually needed it to begin with.
But there was something about having multiple houses that was appealing to him.
Maybe it was the luxury of it.
Maybe it was the convenience, or like he said, maybe it's just the investing aspect of it.
But whatever the case, this was achievable only because of the money he brings in from the show.
That money could easily have gone towards this infrastructure he's pretending to be building, but Alex prioritized things like having multiple homes or buying a tank or having the ridiculous gun collection that he has.
He can claim that he wants to just build an anti-New World Order infrastructure, and that's great.
But honestly, it's just a way to keep the audience pacified about how much money he's actually bringing in and how it's not going to an anti-New World Order infrastructure, unless that's code for his lawyers.
That's possible.
jordan holmes
You know, it's just great when your populist leader has a room where everything's made of gold.
It just makes you feel like, yeah, this guy gets it.
dan friesen
So the other thing, too, is like, I think that Alex is kind of spiritually correct.
I have heard him say that they make like millions of dollars at the store.
jordan holmes
True, yes.
dan friesen
I don't think they've been as high as like 50 million a year.
I don't think that number is close to what he's cited.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But he has said that they sell a lot of stuff because it's at such a discount.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, you're still getting high-quality products.
Yeah, The whole thing.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I don't know.
I think that there's a middle ground that is accurate.
Alex is still lying a little bit.
He's embellishing how honest he has been about his numbers.
But he's not lying totally.
He has talked about bringing in a lot of money at the store.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, he's defensively had to say, listen, I do have a shit ton of money, but it's cool.
dan friesen
This is the first time I think I've heard him say that it's his second home.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that one's new.
dan friesen
Typically, you would just say, I'm selling my house.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, he gets into the actual Huffington Post story itself, and he gets a few details wrong.
alex jones
I'm going to cover this because it's bigger than Alex Jones.
It's all just their attack.
Big tech has its trillions and spies on you and sells your data and censors you.
Oh, but they're good, big tech, with their jumbo jets.
And, you know, Google has more than 20 people worth over $50 million.
Oh, that's okay.
And Jeff Buzzos with 200 million and all.
That's all right.
But look at this.
The left.
Alex Jones InfoWar store made.
They think you're so stupid.
You mean the word is grossed?
$165 million over three years.
That's a little exaggerated, but pretty much accurate.
And they go on to say, Jones has $165 million.
He can pay it to the Sandy Hook families.
dan friesen
I'm curious about him saying that's fairly accurate.
That's interesting.
jordan holmes
It's fairly accurate.
dan friesen
I don't know if I believe that.
jordan holmes
These are the numbers that I gave them, and they're fairly accurate.
dan friesen
Fairly accurate.
jordan holmes
That seems like a little weird thing for you to say, considering it's the information that you gave.
dan friesen
That is a little strange.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They also, the article doesn't say that he has $165 million.
That's a lie that Alex is using to a straw man, if you will.
And also, it doesn't say that he needs to give it to the Sandy Hook families.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
But also, look, this article has some unintended consequences.
And here's one of them.
alex jones
A conservative Christian broadcast has people that run businesses, and they know if your business brings in a million dollars, you're lucky if you get 10,000.
So my listeners, I know off of this, because no weapon formed against us will prosper, and I haven't even plugged in the last two days.
This reminds me, in the name of this, I'm plugging every segment.
And we're going to actually raise the money we need to stay on air and launch all these operations.
I got to see my house.
I should have just gone and raised money from you, but I want it all in here.
But the idea that, oh, Jones, look, he's got gold.
Look at him.
He's like a rapper.
He's got gold like Scrooge McDuck and DuckTales diving into gold.
He says he needs money, but he doesn't.
He's got plenty of money.
dan friesen
This is how you do it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
An article like this comes out and he's like, oh, yeah, fuck you.
I'm going to plug more.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say, why would you think that this would affect him?
At what point do you see a televangelist with their own jet before you go, oh, they don't care if they're rich?
dan friesen
But I also don't think that the, like, obviously, I don't think the intention of the Huffington Post article was to like, no, no, sure.
alex jones
We're going to crush you with this information.
dan friesen
It's reporting out information that I'm almost thinking about Alex's response.
jordan holmes
His is the smart response, if you want to make more money, though, is to be outraged.
alex jones
You bet.
jordan holmes
How dare you, sir?
Yeah, that's right.
dan friesen
They're trying to crush me with this.
And in response, I'm going to raise more money.
jordan holmes
Right, exactly.
Yeah, it makes sense.
dan friesen
Cool.
So Alex goes out to break.
This is disgusting.
alex jones
And that's the great part about it is there isn't any money.
And that's why they're so pissed because they're never going to get anything.
It all goes into the operation and the employees and the bandwidth.
Will they ride back, stay with us?
dan friesen
I mean, look, Alex is essentially laughing at the Sandy Hook families.
That's basically what he's doing.
He's laughing, haha, you're never going to get any money.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I just think, like, even, I mean, it's just bad.
It's just a bad mentality.
It's a mark of a disgusting person.
jordan holmes
It is supervillain-esque.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
It is really, really fucked up.
It's literally in a movie whenever you finally get to the bad guy and they've stolen all your gold and then they're like, ha, I scattered it to the four winds.
You have lost, sir.
And you're like, nah, like, yeah, that's it.
Yeah.
That's a supervillain.
dan friesen
Pretty shitty.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So look, Alex was going to take a week off.
I thought he was going to take the rest of his life off, but he's going to take, he was going to take a week off.
But this article has changed things.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
alex jones
So I pledge this because here's, I was going to take off next week.
I'm not taking off now.
And I'm not coming in here and I'm not whining.
Quite frankly, we were $3 million in the hole.
And I was going to have to spend every dime from our home sale to pay that off, which is fine.
But actually, I want to put that in new projects.
I'm coming in here next week and we're raising $3 million next week in the name of defeating this.
And I'm not going to be a bitch anymore.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
That's television.
alex jones
Our enemy lying about us longest us and leaking this stuff because we knew it was coming.
And I'm not going to back down to these people.
You've got my commitment.
Seriously.
Yeah, you get tired.
You get exhausted.
You feel sorry for yourself to get stabbed in the back, betrayed again.
Good.
That's why I'm here for the children.
I'm standing up for them.
Wow.
dan friesen
So, yeah, $3 million next week.
alex jones
No vacation.
jordan holmes
That's fucking classic, Jim Baker.
Like, those were the days when Jim Baker would be like, they said I'm a fraudster and they're going to give me more money.
And you're like, okay, fine, man.
dan friesen
Yeah, they say I'm a fraudster.
Now I'm going to commit a fraud.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And you guys got to give me money to commit it.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's pretty fun.
I would say that based on the temperature around Infowars prior to this and how Alex was quitting a bit and storming off air, and he started this episode off by saying everyone needed to die and walked around to the parking lot.
jordan holmes
He did say that.
dan friesen
Canceling a vacation is probably not the best idea.
jordan holmes
I would have taken some time off.
dan friesen
I think that if he forces himself to come in to raise this $3 million, he might be quitting every day of that next week.
jordan holmes
It could be a struggle.
It could be a struggle.
Awful.
I mean, he's kind of a little bit like while you're listening to this, you have to be like, I better give Alex some money, otherwise he's going to keep telling me I deserve to die.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And that makes me feel bad.
jordan holmes
That makes me feel bad.
I don't like being told I deserve to die.
I better go buy some lies.
dan friesen
So now, I don't, I don't want to be a dick.
I'm not saying this article is bad at all.
No, no, no, of course not.
A lot of my criticism or the things that I'm responding to are perhaps interpretations of information from this that I've seen on Twitter and on social media.
jordan holmes
Dan, you pick nits.
You're a nitpicker.
dan friesen
A little bit.
jordan holmes
You're a little bit of a nitpicker.
dan friesen
Now, that said, there is an inaccuracy in the article.
And I have to give it up to Alex.
He is totally correct.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
As much begging as I do, we can barely pay the bills, Jones told a caller on Thursday during a segment that was rating a show prompting, promoting the InfoWars store.
That's an ad from years ago.
I'm not going to stop growth and let them push us backwards.
I need your help, Frank.
I need your help.
So they said I said that on Thursday on the show.
Okay.
dan friesen
That's absolutely correct.
jordan holmes
That's an ad.
dan friesen
That's an old ad.
We've talked about this.
jordan holmes
We've talked about that.
I need your help, Frank.
I need your help, Frank.
dan friesen
That's a classic.
And the article does say that he said that on Thursday.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I probably did play that commercial, but that's, yeah, that's.
All right.
I mean, it's, again, picking nits.
jordan holmes
Picking nits.
Picking nits.
dan friesen
But still.
jordan holmes
It's hard to argue that he did not say it Thursday.
unidentified
Look.
jordan holmes
I mean, he didn't say it Thursday, but he did say it Thursday.
dan friesen
I have to give it up when Alex says something that is actually correct.
jordan holmes
You're right.
dan friesen
You're right.
So, look, Trump, he's trying to make his social media thing.
He raised a billion dollars.
Can you imagine what Alex would do with a billion dollars?
alex jones
I got $400 and something thousand dollars in my bank account, which for somebody running an operation this big is nothing.
And the business account's got a few million in it to pay for stuff out in the future and operate.
And I wish we had a billion dollars.
Like Trump raised $2 billion now or whatever his social network that's built on BS.
I wish it was real.
Do you imagine what I do with $2 billion?
I'm not ashamed of money.
I'm not ashamed to have the money, but I don't have money because I spent all the money I had fighting for this country and fighting for freedom and taking these people on.
And then I get to sit there and have them give them everything and then go, he gave us nothing.
unidentified
That's why we have all his documents and put them in the newspaper illegally.
jordan holmes
Weird voice.
alex jones
There's going to come a time where you can't buy our products and can't help us.
And then that's when they're coming for you.
We can beat them, folks, but you got to get pissed.
We're going to see war capital in our accounts now to fight.
Can you stand with us?
I want a million dollars today.
My God, we're down to a couple million here.
I'm going to fight this damn war with no money.
I'll give you everything I got, but I need money.
And these sons of bitches don't want us to have it to fight them.
dan friesen
So the first hour of the show is an outburst and then teasing to announce that Tucker Carlson's the most important person in the world.
Right.
Then the second hour is largely an ad for Gab.
I'm sorry, not Gab, Getter.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
They'll start with G and they're the same thing.
jordan holmes
Gutter.
dan friesen
And then now the third hour has become Alex.
Responding to this article by screaming about needing money.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this is fun.
I mean, this show is worthwhile.
jordan holmes
I'm starting to think that the reason he took such a long time in that first hour was because he really, it's kind of thin today.
dan friesen
Pretty thin.
jordan holmes
I think it might be a little thin on the stats.
dan friesen
I wonder if almost like this news broke in the HuffPost and he's like, oh, thank God.
jordan holmes
I could see him being like, oh, I've got material.
dan friesen
So look, we make jokes.
We do.
That's something we do.
And one of the things we've been joking about is that Alex keeps quitting and storming off his show.
jordan holmes
He has quit and stormed off quite a bit.
dan friesen
And look, there's only one reason that he's still at InfoWars.
jordan holmes
Because of you?
Because of the greatness?
alex jones
Nope.
dan friesen
It's because he loves the crew.
jordan holmes
Oh, it's because he loves the crew.
alex jones
Globalist jokers.
I've only stayed here in InfoWars because I'm loyal to my crew and I like them.
I've got so many deals lined up and so many big things ready to go.
It's that I physically haven't done it yet, but I'm going to.
You ain't shut nothing up.
You're not shutting jack crap down.
Only person doing it's God when he decides my heart goes out.
That's it.
dan friesen
I can't imagine anybody having an offer for Alex.
Like, what?
He's going to get a shoe deal?
jordan holmes
I have no idea.
What are you talking about?
dan friesen
He is unemployable by anybody else.
jordan holmes
He's not even allowed to visit his best friend at the Fox News studio.
He's not allowed in there.
dan friesen
He's also apparently not able to be on his other best friend's podcast.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
And those are the people who love him.
dan friesen
I don't think he's employable even by like OAM.
jordan holmes
Nope.
No, absolutely not.
I don't, he's not employable.
He can only be his own boss.
dan friesen
Right.
He's the worst.
I don't think you'd be interesting for anyone to like give a book deal to him.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I can't imagine that being some sort of a deal he'd have.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
The only thing you could do is if you're like a venture capitalist billionaire who wants to be like, all right, here's a lot of money.
You be weird.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's basically that.
Yeah.
It has to be like a, hey, no strings attached.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Figure out what you're going to do because you can't.
dan friesen
And if he was going to do that, why wouldn't he do that within the auspices of InfoWars?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's certainly not Reset Wars.
He hasn't talked about that.
jordan holmes
Even though it was the most important thing he's ever done.
dan friesen
Apparently not.
jordan holmes
It ran out of steam real quick.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
We'll get to that eventually.
I promise.
So, look, January 6th.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The day of the insurrection.
jordan holmes
Patriots.
Beautiful people.
Happily family loves.
dan friesen
Did you know it's also Alex's wedding anniversary?
jordan holmes
I did not know that.
alex jones
I really want all the Democrats and globalists and, you know, the pedophiles that run the Democratic Party and all the rest of them to know something right now.
I was sitting there when I got married on January 6th, five years ago, when my new wife was pregnant with our wonderful daughter that's four and a half now.
And I looked at her and I said, I want to be out of InfoWars in five years and I want to move on because it obsesses me.
It's all I do and it's killing me.
And I said, I want to hand the baton on to others.
And God has really touched my heart that there's going to be other leaders and just people that are going to stand up and wake up.
My wife looked at me sitting there in the big island at the Four Seasons, which I wouldn't have gone to when Bill Gates owned it.
It was beautiful.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
alex jones
And she said, who?
Who do you think will fill your shoes?
And I said, Joe Rogan.
I said, Joe Rogan is going to be the guy.
Yeah, man.
dan friesen
Joe Rogan will be my successor.
jordan holmes
So if I understand correctly, on his fourth wedding anniversary, he was at the overthrow of the Capitol.
dan friesen
From what I understand, I think his wife was there too.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
Well, that's a great question.
dan friesen
I think she was present.
I might be off on that, but I seem to recall her being there.
But like, yeah.
And also, let's not forget.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
The day we started our show was his wedding day.
jordan holmes
It was his wedding day.
This is too weird.
This is getting too weird, Dan.
dan friesen
This is simulation.
jordan holmes
This is getting simulation as fuck.
dan friesen
Five years ago.
jordan holmes
It's freaking me out, man.
alex jones
Wow.
jordan holmes
It's freaking me out.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So his man, what are we doing?
dan friesen
No idea.
So look, he wanted to quit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He told his wife that five years ago.
jordan holmes
He should have.
dan friesen
Because Rogan will carry the mantle.
jordan holmes
He seems to have.
alex jones
And so I told her, I said, within five years, I commit to you that I'm only going to be on air one day a week and I might write a book a year or make one film a year, but that's it because I really want to transition out of this.
And we're five years later.
jordan holmes
Book a year.
alex jones
Their fifth anniversary.
Yesterday.
January 6th.
We got married on January 6th.
And a few years later, four years later, you saw what happened on January 6th.
jordan holmes
Was that because you guys got married?
alex jones
I never break my promises.
So I don't know, but we're winning.
dan friesen
Okay.
Great.
jordan holmes
What?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What was that?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
You just said I never break my promises and then you revealed that you broke your promise.
dan friesen
We're winning.
jordan holmes
Wow.
That was weird.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That was a deeply personal moment that I did not need to know anything about.
alex jones
Oh, no.
dan friesen
He's talking about the Patriots.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
Not him and his wife.
alex jones
Oh.
No.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So it's been five years.
And that's when his timeline was that he was going to quit.
Right.
He told his wife, and he never breaks his promises.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The implication here is I'm fucking out of here.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's done.
That seems to be the implication.
It's the only implication.
dan friesen
Now, let's try and trace the emotional path through this episode.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You're all going to die.
You all deserve to die.
I'm out of here.
I'm going to go walk around the parking lot.
jordan holmes
Walking around the parking lot, thinking about things.
dan friesen
Tucker Carlson's the most important person in the world.
And if you understand this, you understand everything.
jordan holmes
You understand everything.
dan friesen
Gitter is very exciting.
jordan holmes
It's super exciting.
dan friesen
So exciting.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Hey, look, the globalists are publishing this article about how I make money.
I'm going to make a lot more money, but also I got to quit.
jordan holmes
I got to get out of here.
So we're going to be plugging nonstop for the next week.
alex jones
I got to quit.
jordan holmes
I'm quitting this show.
I promised my wife I would.
We are going to be doing nothing but plugging for the next week, and there's no one to give the show to.
Well, it's just Joe Rogan.
He's not someone who does his own show somewhere else.
dan friesen
In-house, everybody sucks.
jordan holmes
Everybody sucks here.
alex jones
Because I don't say it's the end of InfoWars.
I say it's the dawn of something new.
Where we're going into something big, where a metamorphosis is happening.
And I'm not quite sure until I go through that psychic wall what it is, but I know it's big.
And I know it's a big test.
And I'm going to follow it.
And I'm going to do it.
But it takes your word of mouth and it takes your prayer and it takes your financial support.
So next week, today, a month from now, it's going to be the last time you ever get an Infowars t-shirt.
Literally, I don't describe stuff, folks.
I don't say stuff that I don't actually believe.
I mean, there's a very good chance in the next year we're not here.
I give it well above 50%.
And I'm not trying to curse us.
I'm telling you, it's in God's hands, it's your hands.
But when we go off, the lights go off.
That means they're coming for you.
And quite frankly, at that level, then I can just worry about my family.
I don't want that to happen.
I want to hold them off as long as I can.
But folks, I can't hold them off much longer, okay?
And we've been trying as hard as we can.
And don't worry, though.
God's going to judge all the people that serve us.
They're going to beg as their houses burn down, as they starve to death.
Why did they do this?
But we're sad for them.
dan friesen
Just make a fucking decision.
unidentified
God damn it.
dan friesen
Quit or don't.
Don't do this.
We're going to be gone in a 50% chance.
We'll be gone in a year.
I'm so tired of this game.
He is in and out game.
jordan holmes
There are so many corporations that would kill to be able to get away with an ad pitch that's just, if you don't buy this, you're going to die.
dan friesen
Yeah, if you don't keep us on air, the second we go off the air, the lights go out and you're fucking dead.
unidentified
If you don't buy Kirkland brand bullshit, you're going to die.
dan friesen
The only reason that the globalists are at bay and not killing you and your family is because Alex is sitting right in that chair, which he won't be in for a little bit because he's going to get mad and he has to walk around the parking lot.
jordan holmes
If you don't buy more things, he's not going to be there to protect you.
dan friesen
And I mean, he did plan to take next week off.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
And he's not doing that.
dan friesen
He's not.
jordan holmes
So you can buy more things to keep him from leaving.
dan friesen
We have one last clip here.
Okay.
And this is so much of a bummer.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
So I told my four and a half year old daughter this morning, she keeps asking to go to this particular place.
I'm going to leave it at that.
People will go there if I say where I'm going.
She wants to go to this kind of amusement park thing.
I'll leave it at that in Texas.
She's been asking for a year.
I said, you know what?
She got up at 6 a.m., was asking for it.
I said, we'll take you to the thing tomorrow.
Absolutely.
I'll take you there.
I'm going to go home tonight and I'm going to tell her sorry, honey.
We're not taking you there.
Oh, my God.
Because she has no future if I don't beat these people.
And we're going to come in here with a focused, unedited live global's plan for at least two hours and shove that up the New World Order's ass.
That's what happens when you mess with me.
dan friesen
What happens when you mess with Alex is he disappoints his daughter?
jordan holmes
My, if you don't buy my products, first, you're going to die.
But more importantly, if you don't buy my products, my daughter doesn't get to have a good day.
dan friesen
I also would think that this story flies in the face of Alex saying he always keeps his promises.
alex jones
Right?
dan friesen
He told his daughter.
jordan holmes
This is multiple stories that are told.
unidentified
He told his daughter they were going to the amusement park and now they can't go.
jordan holmes
I mean, I can't imagine growing up where you're just like, Dad, can we go to the amusement park?
You know what?
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yes.
And then a little bit later, no, because I have to fight the devil.
jordan holmes
You are a bad daughter.
dan friesen
Well, you're a fine daughter, but if I don't fight the devil, you're dead.
jordan holmes
That's just the way it is.
alex jones
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Wow.
What a whirlwind of a couple days.
jordan holmes
High stakes parenting.
dan friesen
I am emotionally spent for all that.
jordan holmes
That was a lot.
dan friesen
Just trying to track these two days.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
I think this definitely won't be remembered nearly as much as the previous January 6th.
Sure.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
But yeah, stupid in its own right.
jordan holmes
It's not the capital has fallen, but it is.
dan friesen
Tucker Carlson's the most important person in the world.
jordan holmes
And my daughter's sad.
And it's your fault, Global.
dan friesen
If only people had bought more products.
jordan holmes
If only people had bought more product.
I'm sorry.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, we'll be back.
Yes, indeed we will.
Until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do.
It's KnowledgeFight.com.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at Knowledge Edge, Google Fight, and I go to Bed, Jordan.
alex jones
Yep, we'll be back.
dan friesen
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
jordan holmes
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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