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Nov. 22, 2021 - Knowledge Fight
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#619: November 16, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss how Alex is holding up after losing a bunch of court cases.  In this installment, Alex rambles about how he's murdered people, drifts into deeply misogynistic and homophobic territory, and has a dumb interview with Mike Flynn. Citations

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Main voices
a
alex jones
15:04
d
dan friesen
31:15
j
jordan holmes
18:17
Appearances
m
michael flynn
02:58
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steve kirsch
03:23
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unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
knowledge fight.
Need money.
Andy and Kansas.
Andy and Kansas.
jordan holmes
Stop it.
alex jones
Andy and Kansas.
Andy and Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.
unidentified
Thanks for holding us.
I'm a Christian caller.
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your world.
unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
KnowledgeFight.com I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody!
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Sleen, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
I have a quick question for you.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot today is possibly something uncharacteristic.
Maybe people wouldn't think this of me, because I don't like violent video games.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Generally, I like...
I think things like Donkey Kong Country, maybe, you know, soothing.
Like, games where the violence is you jump on someplace.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
You jump on a Goomba or a Koopa Troopa.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's almost theoretical violence.
dan friesen
Yeah, cartoony stuff.
Yeah.
But I just saw that Grand Theft Auto 3, Vice City, and San Andreas were released on the Switch.
Uh-huh.
I'm over the moon.
jordan holmes
Over the moon!
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
I played the shit out of those when I was younger.
Like, 17 onward or whatever.
And there's just something about it.
I don't really like the violence aspect of it.
And I kind of try and play that down as much as I can.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Don't commit unnecessary violence.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But they're such a great, like, open world but not too big kind of vibe.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I like...
People telling me what to do, like going on missions and stuff.
It's fun.
It's fun.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I remember playing those games and being like, well, I've seen my friends play this and they just commit violence all the time.
I am going to walk to my next mission like a gentleman.
dan friesen
I'm not going to steal anybody's car.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would be rude!
dan friesen
I think also, I've started on 3. And I think that there are some criticisms that people have that some of the aesthetic of the original version on the PS2 are gone.
And I kind of do agree with that.
It's stylistically a little...
Okay, okay.
But I don't mind.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I actually, I don't mind that too much.
But yeah, just get a thrill out of finding a hidden package.
It's just great.
You're running around like, why am I on this rooftop?
Oh, haha, that's why.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
Anyway, what about you?
jordan holmes
Dan, my bright spot is a little bit of a twilight spot.
I'll tell you, it begins with breaking a commandment.
First, Dan, since you've gotten this desk, I have coveted.
I have coveted.
I've coveted the shit out of this desk.
dan friesen
See, I told you it was a nice desk.
jordan holmes
It's a nice desk, so I was like, I'm not proud of this, but I had to get myself a new desk.
I had to.
I didn't want to.
I just couldn't look at my old desk anymore.
dan friesen
I understand.
unidentified
Right?
jordan holmes
So I got it.
And as you know about how I buy things, I...
Found my price range, got a deal, and then just ordered it with no real consideration.
dan friesen
No, no.
It's probably the first thing.
Check it off.
Like, I don't care.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
So it's huge.
It's way bigger than I thought it was.
dan friesen
You gotta be careful about that.
jordan holmes
Incredibly complicated.
It took me two full days to put together.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
I was so proud of myself.
I completed it.
And then the next morning, I opened the drawer and the whole thing, the whole drawer fell apart.
dan friesen
As if it was just like a cartoon.
jordan holmes
Yes, like an absolute cartoon.
So my bright spot was successfully putting that thing together.
dan friesen
That does feel good.
jordan holmes
It felt great.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And my dark spot is that it has already fallen apart.
dan friesen
But you'll have another bright spot and then you'll get to put it together again.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So congratulations.
jordan holmes
I'm excited.
dan friesen
Double bright spot.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Jordan, today we are going to be going over a Modern Day episode.
We're going to be talking about November.
September 16th.
Blackjack.
21 blackjack.
jordan holmes
I was trying to false start it.
dan friesen
Too soon, kid.
jordan holmes
I was trying to false start it.
dan friesen
Too early, kid.
I can't remember what the real Fast and Furious line is and what the wrong one is that I've taught myself is the right one.
jordan holmes
Oh, the one at the very beginning whenever he hits the NOS too soon.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Too early, too soon.
Who cares?
jordan holmes
Doesn't matter.
dan friesen
Anyway, we're going to be talking about that.
It's...
Fucked up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds about right.
dan friesen
It's a mess.
And also, Alex premieres a bit of his interview with General Flynn.
General Mike Flynn.
unidentified
Gotcha.
dan friesen
And so we'll be taking a brief detour to go over that interview.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
dan friesen
And I'm excited to get down to business on that.
But first, Jordan, let's take a little moment to say thank you and hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Jane, thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Jane.
dan friesen
Take out next, Gregory.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Greg.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Jess.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Jess.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Drew.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Drew.
dan friesen
And Randy and Candy from Arkansas.
Thank you so much.
You are now both policy wonks.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Randy and Candy.
dan friesen
Thank you.
So, Jordan, like I said, this episode's pretty fucked up.
unidentified
I'll...
dan friesen
I don't like some of the content that we're going to end up talking about.
jordan holmes
Well, the world!
I don't like some of the world's content that's been going on.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is a little different, though.
It's not the same kind of fucked up.
It's just...
Anyway, here's another context drop from today's show.
alex jones
I'm the devil!
I've got to be taken over here!
I've been all this...
unidentified
All right!
jordan holmes
Okay!
dan friesen
Yep.
So we're going to start here, actually, not on the episode, but we're going to start with a little video that Alex put out where he is really embodying his current spirit, his current vibe.
This is a little video that he put out on Band.Video.
alex jones
Save InfoWars Defense Fund.
Save InfoWars Defense Fund.
You can find the link at SaveInfoWars.com.
I wrote it on this folder right here.
Look, I'm up against the Democratic Party.
dan friesen
Real quick, I just got to pause it.
Did he think he was going to forget saveinfowars.com?
unidentified
I guess.
dan friesen
He's got to write it on the folder?
jordan holmes
That's the only explanation.
dan friesen
I made a note.
jordan holmes
It's the only thing, but it's the whole thing!
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
...up against people that bankrupt at Remington.
They want to take us off air.
And so we've got to fight this in court.
We've got to go to the jury trials.
Even though I've already been found guilty by default, now they're going to try to...
Tell the jury how guilty I am.
jordan holmes
So guilty.
alex jones
It's going to take a lot of money to fight this and a lot of money for the appeals.
And so I can't spend the money we have paying our crew and running our independent media outlet that reaches millions of people without your support.
Infowars is doing its most important work ever right now.
So this is a no-brainer.
Please go to SaveInfoWars.com.
Make a $10 donation, $1,000 donation.
Wealthy people out there.
Your free speech is being destroyed.
InfoWars is just the first domino to fall.
And if wealthy folks don't start spending their money promoting liberty, promoting freedom, we're going to lose this country.
And we're going to lose.
The world to tyranny.
So, please go to SaveInfoWars.com.
It's Give, Send, Go.
They're great folks.
They're patriots.
We're banned everywhere else even being able to raise money.
And this will help keep us in the fight for the next few years.
So, I've never issued an alert this serious.
I need your help right now.
Stand up for yourself.
Stand up for your rights.
Stand up for free speech.
Stand up for America.
And don't let these bullies intimidate anybody.
Please donate right now at SaveInfoWars.com.
dan friesen
Hey, rich people.
Cough, cough.
Elon Musk.
jordan holmes
Cough, cough.
dan friesen
Joe Rose.
jordan holmes
Amazing.
I love a good appeal to rich people's sense of dignity.
dan friesen
Yeah, and their love of the First Amendment.
jordan holmes
Oh, rich people love the First Amendment so goddamn much.
dan friesen
Yeah, so this is what Alex does.
He has absolutely no standards and doesn't give a fuck about how his actions and words affect other people, so he ends up acting like a total dick, and then every now and then he gets himself into trouble.
He milks that trouble for all the free press that he can get out of it, presenting himself as a persecuted victim the whole time.
If he's allowed to, He ends up settling and he makes quiet apologies to get himself off the hook like he did with James Oliphantus and Hamdi Ulukaya.
When that's not an option or, you know, someone important to Infowars ends up owing a lot of money, you better believe that an emergency money bomb is coming right around the corner.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
We called that pretty...
It was not an ambitious prediction.
jordan holmes
No, it's not...
dan friesen
It's pretty obvious.
jordan holmes
It did not require any psychic powers.
No.
Merely deduction.
dan friesen
This doesn't have anything to do with Alex being able to afford appeals or fight the good fight to clear his name and defend the First Amendment or whatever bullshit he thinks he's doing.
This is trying to trick the audience into paying what he's going to end up being ordered to pay for losing these suits.
This is basically the equivalent of being a teen and begging your parents to give you money to pay off a speeding ticket you got when you were joyriding.
Alex wants someone else to face the consequences for him so he can continue his flagrantly irresponsible bullshit that'll end up leading to more consequences that the audience...
will have to bail him out of them.
Yeah.
unidentified
It's honestly very sad and childish, and I hope the audience doesn't fall for it again.
dan friesen
But I think they might not.
I think they might not be totally convinced.
jordan holmes
You think so?
dan friesen
I went to the Give, Send, Go page.
jordan holmes
How's it going?
dan friesen
He's trying to raise $2 million.
jordan holmes
And we've Give, Sended him?
dan friesen
8% of it.
And it's been up for a bit.
People have had time to find their way to that page to donate.
jordan holmes
That's a Give, Send, Go do not.
Pass go.
Do not collect 200 times.
dan friesen
I suspect he might have banged this gong too many times.
And I don't know.
He might be fishing in a dry well.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think that the audience sees the idea that Joe Rogan just got a $100 million contract with Spotify.
If he believes what Alex says and really thinks that this is that important, $2 million is a drop in the bucket.
He should be able to get that from Rogan easy.
Why do you have to ask the people who are going paycheck to paycheck?
You know, the good people in the audience.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Why are you trying to bilk them?
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Because Rogan knows it's bullshit, too.
jordan holmes
Of course it's bullshit.
Nobody wants to pay for it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Anyway, good luck.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
I'm excited to see how this one goes.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So here we go.
We're going to start off on the 16th, and here's where we're at.
alex jones
Let me tell you what's really huge and got me having butterflies right now.
And I don't get butterflies a lot.
I'm having really big ones today.
I think a big war is about to start.
Something big is about to go down.
My Spidey Sense has never been this strong.
It's like on fire right now.
jordan holmes
Woo!
alex jones
Talk about chills.
Talk about the stomach.
Man, that is some energy right there.
There's some big stuff.
dan friesen
Yep, so big stuff.
jordan holmes
I'm going to lose all of my money!
I'm gonna lose all of my money!
dan friesen
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
jordan holmes
I'm gonna lose it all?
dan friesen
It looks bad if you present yourself that way, so you probably should just say that there's a giant war coming.
jordan holmes
There's probably a huge war coming.
dan friesen
Probably the end of the world is right around the corner.
jordan holmes
I mean, I gotta have to guess that all the world's nuclear powers are gonna start a war against each other immediately, or I'm going to lose all of my money.
I don't know which one...
dan friesen
What you don't understand is me being rich is the only thing that is holding back the end of the world.
jordan holmes
I would not be surprised if he believed that on some level.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It would be good to see him try to pull that one off.
So yeah, Alex is high.
But he's high on fighting Satan.
That's what you should know.
alex jones
I'm high as a kite fighting Satan.
I mean, I would not be anywhere else.
The more I fight tyranny, the more I face down evil, the more I don't back down, just the more the universe opens up to just things I could never even imagine.
And it's a massive brain boost, ladies and gentlemen.
An expansion of the soul, like Narls Barkley talks about.
jordan holmes
What is happening?
alex jones
Going crazy, but he's not going crazy, and there's so much space.
It's just...
Top of your head blows off, and...
It's just so amazing to be in the quiet place at the most high.
dan friesen
Like the philosopher Narls Barkley.
jordan holmes
I mean...
I mean...
Like...
Oh boy, let's just start with CeeLo.
Amazing voice.
dan friesen
No argument there.
jordan holmes
No argument there.
A lot of bad shit.
A lot of bad dude shit going on there.
dan friesen
I was looking over his...
His Wikipedia page.
And it was bizarre how there was sort of this pattern of him saying horrible things on Twitter and then immediately going, hey man, I didn't mean to offend anybody.
jordan holmes
No, listen, I'm sorry.
I just have terrible thoughts that I want to enforce upon people and then I don't want to face any consequences for them.
I'm CeeLo Green.
dan friesen
I didn't cut this clip because it would be too long and I don't really care that much, but the next commercial break he comes in with crazy.
jordan holmes
Of course he does!
dan friesen
And he's just like, Just singing along.
jordan holmes
Just going for it.
Oh, boy.
Does he go for the falsetto?
dan friesen
Maybe I'm crazy.
No, no.
jordan holmes
Oh, come on!
dan friesen
He's Shatnering it.
jordan holmes
Driving me crazy!
dan friesen
I would like to see the upper end of Alex's register.
jordan holmes
I want to know what the falsetto is.
dan friesen
It's probably not great.
Speaking of not great, Alex gets to this clip of Mike Flynn, the interview, pretty quick in the show, pretty early on.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
All right, let's go ahead, my friends, and go to this very important little short clip.
That's from just the intro of the hour-long interview with General Flynn that we shot Saturday in San Antonio.
It's in one of the little green rooms off where he was speaking to a crowd of 5,000 people.
And we're also on Thursday, got some other interviews I did and a speech I gave.
That's going to be on Thursday, and it's very powerful as well with Patrick Byrd.
But this is the interview that really, if people listen to it, will change the world.
This is the battle plan of victory here.
dan friesen
So it's the battle plan of victory.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
So Alex plays this little clip.
It's like a sizzle reel kind of of this interview.
The Flinterview, as I'm going to call it.
jordan holmes
Don't you dare.
unidentified
Come on.
jordan holmes
I'm taking it away from you.
dan friesen
So the part that's hilarious about this is that the overarching theme of the clips that Alex plays on his show is just Flynn saying that Alex was right all along.
It's really self-aggrandizing.
I didn't get any indication that the interview was a battle plan for victory as much as it was a preview almost entirely about how great Alex is.
And that doesn't surprise me, since he's a narcissist and having people talk about how great you are is kind of the road to victory.
Anyway, I didn't feel like I got a good sense of what the interview was about from this sizzle reel, so like I said, I...
Decided to watch the full version and see what I could learn.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And I was really particularly trying to figure out, like, where is the battle plan?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because that's what Alex is saying this is.
There's, like, useful information moving forward.
Absolutely.
This is how we're going to achieve victory.
jordan holmes
We need to divide these certain groups.
We need to flank them, et cetera, et cetera.
Battle plans.
dan friesen
It's mostly complaining.
jordan holmes
Well.
There's a lot to complain about.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So they touch on the sixth a little bit.
unidentified
Sure.
michael flynn
And, you know, I think of people that are following what I'm doing or what's happening in my life and everything that's happening in yours as well, with all of this stuff with the January 6th, they call it the insurrection crucifixion, because that's what it is.
And in a way, you know, from a biblical sense, Nancy Pelosi's like the Pontius Pilate of this operation that they are doing to basically steal away all of the...
The other aspects of what's happening across this country, like you got the Durham report, right?
Whatever comes out of that.
The Durham investigation's ongoing.
And there's been a lot of things dropped.
dan friesen
There haven't been things dropped.
People aren't covering stuff up.
unidentified
Look.
Did anybody try and shit on Pontius Pilate's desk?
dan friesen
Not that I'm aware of.
I don't think he had a desk.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a good point.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He had some water.
dan friesen
I'm trying to follow this metaphor.
jordan holmes
Sure, yeah, I'm struggling.
dan friesen
Who's Jesus?
jordan holmes
I have no idea!
How is Nancy Pelosi Pontius Pilate?
dan friesen
Are the Oath Keepers Jesus?
Collectively?
Who is Nancy Pelosi?
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, did somebody bring something to Nancy Pelosi that she then washed her hands of?
Like, did somebody say, uh, hey, uh, Nancy, we want all of these insurrectionists to be free or whatever because they're the messiah.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
And she was like, nah, dude.
Wait, no, that's even backwards.
She would have been the one saying, no, everybody here is fine, don't kill them.
dan friesen
Is QAnon Barabbas?
jordan holmes
I guess, yeah!
Yeah, then the crowd is chanting for Mike Pence's death, but she's saying, don't kill Mike Pence.
Mike Pence is Jesus.
Wait.
dan friesen
Ugh.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
See, this is a little confusing.
I understand the desire, because insurrection rhymes with crucifixion.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, it's great.
dan friesen
Sort of.
I appreciate that wordplay.
I understand why you want to get as biblical as you can.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
dan friesen
Because it's red meat for the audience.
jordan holmes
They love it.
dan friesen
But this is dumb.
jordan holmes
I don't like it when people get both reality and unreality wrong.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
That's real frustrating.
Pick one.
dan friesen
Speaking of things that are questionable in terms of reality.
Do you think that Mike Flynn thinks that the 2020 election was stolen?
jordan holmes
Boy, that seems too obvious a question, so I'm going to go with no.
dan friesen
Actually, it's yes, but there's a follow-up question.
jordan holmes
Well, that's not fair.
dan friesen
He thinks the 2016 election was stolen.
jordan holmes
I'm going to go with yes.
dan friesen
Yep, you got that right.
michael flynn
In 2016, I believe...
Based on what we've learned in the last nine months, ten months, that I believe that there was massive fraud conducted in the 2016 election.
They just didn't have the mail-in ballots.
So they used the machines to...
To manipulate, but Donald Trump in that case ran, you know, they, I mean, essentially ran the tables, and he outdid the algorithms, you know, this word that everybody's learned, the algorithms of these machines, and he beat the odds, and he became president, and then for four years they tried to take him out.
They tried to cut him off at the knees every single day, and that story is still being told.
And so what they decided, and I think that they decided this right after the 2016 election, they said this is never going to happen again.
We're never going to have another election that we're not going to control the outcome of.
Kick in COVID, right?
Bring in COVID.
Bring in the COVID control mechanisms.
And very, very smart.
They did it in a very masterful way.
I give them a lot of credit.
It's like military strategy at its finest.
And what they did was they used the COVID control mechanisms to bring in the whole mail-in ballot, right?
There's so much fraud in mail-in ballot.
dan friesen
So yeah, we got this whole plan.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Very elaborate.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
dan friesen
So, the 2016 election was stolen, but Trump did so well that he overrode the voter fraud, which is...
That's Alex's narrative.
That's what he says.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
And then, because they're like, fuck, he's too good.
We didn't consider this when we were rigging the election.
We didn't consider that it would be possible that someone could be so popular that they would overcome all efforts to take him down and...
So we have to get COVID.
jordan holmes
I think I would say that if you've started invalidating even the elections you've won, your argument is, let's never hold elections again.
dan friesen
Well, that's kind of what Flynn ends up getting towards in this interview as well, because he's talking about the youngkin.
Yeah.
In Virginia.
And he's basically saying that that was the same thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
They were trying to steal it.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
Even if we win, it's stolen.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
This is not a good path for us to go down.
jordan holmes
There's never a win.
alex jones
No.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
So, 17 minutes into this interview, and it's probably 35 minutes long all day, you know, all things considered.
Sure.
Alex finally asks, what can we do to fight back?
So maybe this is the battle plan.
jordan holmes
Okay, here we go.
dan friesen
And Flynn's response might be a little cliche.
alex jones
What are some basic things the American people can do and that Congress and the states and the legislatures and some of the good senators we have can do to get past the intimidation when we're told don't investigate, don't call for election security, don't call for election integrity.
What can we do to get people moving in the right direction and make sure they don't steal 2020?
michael flynn
Good question.
So first of all, courage is a decision.
jordan holmes
What?
michael flynn
Courage is not something that is in your DNA.
It might be, but at the end of the day, courage is a decision that you have to make.
dan friesen
So you're telling me it's possible that courage might be in your DNA?
jordan holmes
Explain to me how courage is both a decision and something you were innately born with.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Okay, that's a good point.
dan friesen
But I think it's just a cliche thing that sounds fun.
Courage is a choice.
jordan holmes
Honor is a choice for life decisions.
dan friesen
Yeah, you could see that on a poster or something.
jordan holmes
Sure, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Hang in there.
So basically, his advice almost entirely boils down to like...
Think locally.
Act globally.
It'll have global ramifications, basically.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
It's just more cliche nonsense that people have been...
There's some truth to it, but it's kind of an idea that a lot of people in organizing have already known for a long time.
jordan holmes
It's like Jimmy James' The Secret of Management.
Yeah.
Secret number 56. I'm...
With stupid.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's trite at very least and not groundbreaking at best.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
So one of the ways that you can act locally, though, is you gotta get in there to those school board meetings, man.
It's so fun what the right wing is doing at school board meetings.
unidentified
They love it.
jordan holmes
They eat that up.
michael flynn
Why has there been so much...
Visibility about school boards and school board activity around this country.
You kind of say to yourself, where did these people come from?
Why did school boards get like this?
Part of it is that we have taken for granted our freedoms and we have not gotten involved.
We just sort of take it for granted that, oh, this guy Alex, he's on the school board.
And you go, well, where did Alex come from?
And who is he?
What is his background?
And all of a sudden we're finding out that we have these, what I call, democratic socialists that are on these school boards because the...
The education system is the way to change the entire culture of a country.
alex jones
And they brag about that.
michael flynn
And they brag about it.
They write about it.
They've been talking about it for decades.
This is not something that happened because of Donald Trump.
This has been going on for decades.
dan friesen
It's not so much that there's something different going on with school boards as it is people have figured out that they can get viral videos really easily by going and yelling at school boards and people just don't stop them.
I don't know where Flynn's getting any stats about socialists on school boards, but I understand what he's doing.
This is just an attempt to encourage more intimidation and chaos at school board meetings because they're the perfect target for right-wing agitation.
School board members probably aren't going to argue with you.
You just get to yell whatever you want for a few minutes, then you get to post a video of yourself, which encourages more people who want attention to do the same thing.
It's a self-perpetuating cycle.
Now, another important thing to point out is that the people who share Alex and Flynn's politics don't have sway in most school boards because they took their freedom for granted.
They don't have sway there because they don't care about the actual work that school boards do, and their politics would actually advocate for the elimination of public schools and thus school boards.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
They don't care.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and I mean, your argument is more like, hey, this teacher wants you to read, and you're like, oh, well, that's a commie socialist right there.
dan friesen
People who are drawn to serving on school boards generally aren't power-mad socialists.
They're people who care deeply about the community they live in and are often dedicated to educational issues.
This is slightly idealistic on my part, and obviously there's some folks who aren't high-minded and totally altruistic, but being on a school board generally means putting in a ton of extra work that's completely thankless and generally poorly compensated.
According to the National School Board Association, quote, 75% of small district school board members receive no salary.
A lot of school districts have elections for board members, too, so that's an added hurdle that people have to clear in order to get on the board.
You weren't paying attention for a long time, and you didn't give a fuck about the fact that you could have voted for somebody else to be on the school board, you dumb dick.
jordan holmes
I mean, the problem is their argument has to be like...
All that time when you weren't paying attention, all this evil stuff was happening.
Not like, the reason you didn't have to pay attention is because everything was fine.
So now it's like they've been doing this all in secret, despite the fact that if you were to go look at it, you were like, I haven't cared about my school board in my town for 40 fucking years.
I didn't go to school here.
I don't know any of the kids here.
Why would I give a shit about the school board?
And then all of a sudden, now it's like, well...
I'm some asshole who's doing nothing, but I think I'm going to go bother the school board.
dan friesen
Dreadlocked weirdo can go scream at the school board, and he also could have done that ten years ago.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And just no one really...
jordan holmes
No one would have given a shit.
dan friesen
It wasn't that big a deal.
And the right-wing media wasn't in this, like, hey, let's go fuck with school boards thing.
jordan holmes
It wasn't the flavor du jour.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, great.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
dan friesen
This is bad.
jordan holmes
It's good stuff.
dan friesen
Flynn.
You jerk.
Anyway, that's most of his battle plan, is like, fuck with school boards, find out who owns your local paper.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
I don't know if this is a battle plan.
jordan holmes
Let's get five million people together and buy Turner Media.
dan friesen
Yeah, let's bike in there.
So, I think a lot of what Alex wanted out of this interview is he wanted to get Flynn to say that he was going to run for president.
And he doesn't really.
alex jones
You're already traveling around the country working hard to keep people organized and ready and empowering and force multiplying and doing a beautiful job.
And I just think that you could accelerate that if you went ahead soon and did declare that you were running an America First party or something, and that if Trump did run and then built up, that you'd swing that support over.
I mean, I think that would energize what you're doing even more, but that's my opinion.
I know you talked to Trump.
I think he would understand that you're not angling to undercut him.
But I just can't wait to be part of this with you, General.
Thank you so much.
michael flynn
Thanks, Alex.
alex jones
Appreciate it.
michael flynn
Thanks for having me on the time.
dan friesen
So, I like that part of the discussion about, like, come on, you should say you're running for president, is like, you know, Trump wouldn't think you're betraying him.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
That's healthy.
jordan holmes
Hey, hey, listen, we want you to run for president knowing full well you will not win.
It's a waste of your time.
And, and, at all the end of this, your main job is to give all of the stuff that you have worked hard for to somebody who has literally never worked a day in his life.
dan friesen
Sounds good.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
Yeah, that's good stuff.
dan friesen
I think I'd rather spend my time yelling at a school board.
jordan holmes
There we go!
dan friesen
So we get back to the episode proper, and Alex has some, you know, he's always right about things.
We've heard this.
He has some predictions about where we're going with COVID vaccines.
alex jones
Living in denial is only going to let this take place.
And so many people go, well, Jones, I'll just take a third, fourth, fifth, sixth shot.
We're talking about seven to ten a year.
And, of course, that'll be one a day or one an hour.
They're going to do this until you just get used to getting injections that make you sterile and die.
But the evidence is one shot's super bad, two is incredibly horrible, three is just stratospheric problems.
And they're just normalizing it, incremental.
It's like putting a frog in the pot and turning the heat up slowly.
That's exactly what they're doing.
dan friesen
So I guess the conservative estimate that he's making is seven to ten COVID vaccines a year.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And then...
Maybe one a day, one an hour.
jordan holmes
Okay, so that's...
dan friesen
This might be a little bit exaggerated.
jordan holmes
365 multiplied by 24, right?
So that's...
dan friesen
Do you have to take shots while you're sleeping?
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a good question.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I would assume so.
dan friesen
You have to wake up in the middle of the night and give yourself a booster.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
So then let's say you get a good seven hours of sleep a night.
alex jones
Sure.
jordan holmes
All right.
Then the 365 is only multiplied by 17, right?
dan friesen
But you got to take one shot in the middle of the night just to hold you over.
So we'll all have to change into like a broken up sleep schedule.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
So let's say you sleep three hours at a time.
Let's call that 19 shots because you got one before you go to bed, one when you wake up, and then one to boost.
dan friesen
Or possibly the government will mandate that you can only sleep in like 20 minute chunks.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Like that Da Vinci sleep cycle.
jordan holmes
That would be fun.
Or, and let me throw this at you.
dan friesen
Just so you could take a shot every hour.
jordan holmes
Every room is altered to be like a Indiana Jones booby trap room where if you step on a certain tile, 30 vaccine shots get shot at you from the walls.
dan friesen
Or it could be like the hatch in Lost where there's a counter.
Clicking down to an hour and you have to take the shot or else the electromagnetic anomaly will go off and crash a plane.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
unidentified
There's going to have to be stakes if you want me to get the shot on time.
dan friesen
Stupid.
Anyway, he might be fear-mongering a little bit.
jordan holmes
Oh, you think?
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So, one of the side characters in the story of Infowars that I think doesn't get enough play, but definitely does come up more than you'd expect, is Alex's wife's tennis partner.
jordan holmes
Yes!
Surprising both how much it comes up and that it comes up at all.
dan friesen
We've not heard from this tennis partner in a while, but here's an update.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I mean, hell, this woman was bragging to my wife yesterday how she's going to take her 7- and 10-year-old to get vaccinated yesterday.
She was playing tennis with her, and she didn't even warn the lady.
She said, well, it's just Darwinistic.
She wants to kill her kids.
I said, honey, that's terrible.
She said, look, she knows who I am.
She knows who you are.
She shot her mouth off before.
She was just rubbing it in.
So she wants to brain damage her kids.
It's up to her.
I don't think she has a right to hurt her children, but that's where we are.
We'll be right back.
dan friesen
Okay.
Got cut off by the break.
jordan holmes
That's very funny.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's very funny.
Imagine Alex's wife.
I didn't even warn her.
dan friesen
She was talking shit.
jordan holmes
She was just showing off that her husband doesn't run an outlet designed expressly to destroy children.
dan friesen
What does it mean to brag about your children getting vaccinated?
jordan holmes
Oh man, my kids are not gonna die.
Ooh, look at your kids.
They're gonna die all the time.
dan friesen
I think that's a strange phrasing.
jordan holmes
It is weird.
dan friesen
So we're gonna get into a little bit of Alex talking about...
How many abortions he's paid for.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Some of this doesn't quite match up with some of the other comments he's made in the past.
Sure.
Timeline issues certainly come up.
That'll happen.
But I kind of, after the initial shock of him admitting on air that he's paid for over 10 abortions, since the shock of that, I don't want to talk about that too much, because I don't want to give the appearance that...
I would be in any way judgmental of someone making that decision.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we have no moralization against...
Right.
dan friesen
And I don't want that to possibly be misconstrued.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
In this case, you kind of got to bring it up because of where the conversation goes.
Okay.
This is a mess, my man.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
alex jones
Some of my first Access TV shows 28 years ago, I explained to people that I was a Christian, but that I wasn't a Bible thumper, and I wasn't judging people, and I explained how the left would control...
Women and men that had taken part in abortions by saying, you're a sinner, you're going to hell, you killed a baby, and so they go, no, it's not a baby, screw you, and then they commit and harden their hearts instead of, hey, God will forgive you, you got set up, you got lied to, that was a human life, you know your heart deep down, you know it's true.
Just ask God for forgiveness, the Holy Spirit will come into you, and you'll be freed of this weight of what you were involved in.
I know, I paid for quite a few abortions, and it literally cursed me, and I...
Sought God's face and was repenting, not even about the abortions, just the darkness I was in.
And God, literally the Holy Spirit said, you need to say you're sorry to those children you killed, and you need to get on your knees, and you need to ask forgiveness.
And I did, and that was taken away from me.
And then God said, now here's your mission.
I was like 17 years old, and it hit me like a, now I got rid of that curse on you?
Now you're going to go to work.
And I was like, whoa.
Whoa, I just got struck by lightning!
dan friesen
Yeah, that timeline doesn't quite work out for me, based on other comments he's made in the past.
jordan holmes
I mean, wow.
I mean, if it's that young, I guess his dad paid for 10 abortions plus.
dan friesen
Oh, I think that was already understood.
jordan holmes
That was already understood?
dan friesen
I believe so.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Alright.
It seems like his dad doesn't feel too much guilt about it.
dan friesen
He's not on the record.
So, thinking about this headspace that he's in, you know, he's like, I killed these kids.
Oh, no.
That leads him to confess to murder again.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay, good.
alex jones
And that's what happened.
They go, oh, he's a hypocrite.
He's against abortion.
And he admits he's done it.
Well, it's like saying you committed a murder, which I did.
I'm a murderer.
I mean, I didn't just beat my children.
I didn't just cut my children up in pieces.
I've pounded a few skulls in.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
And the issue is that I've repented of that.
And then God said, well, there's going to be a price to pay.
jordan holmes
Is that the issue?
alex jones
So I expect to be fed through a meat grinder.
Well, that's what my children, my little children, I got them chopped up.
Vacuum cleaned up.
Sold for body parts.
I'm a sinner.
I repent.
I'm a bad person.
I'm a killer.
But I'll tell you something.
God forgave me.
dan friesen
So he's trying to give this impression that God has forgiven him and then all the guilt is gone and, you know, all this.
But, like, that is absolutely not true.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
He is intensely motivated by some kind of a guilt that he feels about this.
jordan holmes
I mean, it would be hard to think to yourself after listening to that, oh, repentance gives you...
Clear thoughts and calm of mind and free of heart.
dan friesen
It allows you to see everything clearly and your motivations are just totally above board.
jordan holmes
It seems more like, and I'm going to throw this out there, that he is haunted daily by his past and it tears him apart inside, leading him to do and commit terrible things.
dan friesen
And exaggerate the sins that he's committed, like I've murdered people.
jordan holmes
So in a sense, I would argue that repentance doesn't do shit for you at all.
dan friesen
If Alex is the embodiment of repentance, I would say that it's a bad thing.
jordan holmes
It's a bad deal.
dan friesen
It's a real bad thing.
jordan holmes
It's a raw deal.
Don't take it.
dan friesen
Yeah, but forgiveness is good.
It's good to forgive yourself.
jordan holmes
It is good to forgive yourself.
alex jones
So, I know how sin works, and I know how once you've committed, the devil puts pressure on you and uses the fact that you have a conscience against you to manipulate and control you instead of just going to God and God will wipe it out, ladies and gentlemen.
Doesn't mean you're perfect, but those weights are gone.
jordan holmes
Sure they are.
alex jones
You use the analogy of a Christmas story where his old boss has got all these giant chains and balls on him, all the bad things he did that he's got to carry on his back for eternity.
jordan holmes
Not a Christmas story.
alex jones
You can feel that weight when you've committed really big crimes and sins.
You need to get rid of it.
It's a long way back from hell.
You don't want to cross that line.
Quote Glenn Danzig.
jordan holmes
What is happening?
dan friesen
He's quoted the philosopher Glenn Danzig and Narls Barkley on this episode.
jordan holmes
What is happening?
Okay.
dan friesen
It's great.
jordan holmes
All right.
We know what's on his playlist today.
dan friesen
So that was A Christmas Carol.
Yeah.
Alex is talking about Jacob Marley.
jordan holmes
Indeed.
dan friesen
He wasn't his boss.
He was his business partner.
unidentified
Indeed.
dan friesen
And I believe, if I'm not mistaken...
The chains represented his wealth.
jordan holmes
Yes, correct.
dan friesen
The chains represented him being obsessed with business.
jordan holmes
You indeed got it, yes.
The more money he made, the heavier his chains were.
dan friesen
It's not really about sins in the way Alex is describing it.
jordan holmes
It's about specific ones and their ironic punishment.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, Alex is on one.
As you can see, he's rambling about...
Killing people and how he has done that in the past.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Which is great.
jordan holmes
Good start.
dan friesen
Sure.
Yeah.
And so he gets into talking about how the man needed to get him off air because he was given too much truth.
I have a few thoughts about this that I want to discuss.
alex jones
Okay, we knew this day was coming.
We knew it was going to happen because we had Operation Lockstep and we had Spars 2023, 2025, and we had all our different in-game documents.
And we knew that they were going to have a viral scare for disease X. The UN said this three years ago.
Rockefeller Foundation said it 12 years ago.
That they would bring out the virus, they would scare everybody, they would train everybody to be locked down.
They'd bring out a vaccine passport that would then be tied to a global travel passport and an internal passport that would have a carbon tax attached to it.
That was in the documents 12 years ago.
Right around that same time, China started developing its social credit score and Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, that now redirects Infowars.
At the time, at the time, we're the first to report on all of this.
And that's not, again, it's up here saying, oh, aren't we special?
No, it's saying, we've done the research, we've been the tip of the spear.
That's why the enemy is so upset.
That's why they want us off air.
I mean, can you imagine them panicking three years ago when I was finally banned on Twitter six months after I was banned everywhere else, and there were videos of millions of views saying, I believe they're about to release a deadly virus to create fear and then have lockdowns and bring in a global ID out of the system.
Here's the documents.
What do you think they thought when they saw that?
They said, get him off now.
Shut him up.
How the hell does he know all this?
Well, you guys brag about it.
dan friesen
It's a fun story, but it's not real.
It's not accurate at all.
All the citations that he made at the beginning were all not real.
Operation Lockstep's not a real thing.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Just various documents and scenario exercises that he's completely making shit up about.
And this is what I want to get to.
I don't think...
The idea that Alex has been yelling about them releasing a virus since 1998 Right.
Gives him any credibility.
jordan holmes
No, it gives him so much credibility, he was right.
dan friesen
I think it actually works against his credibility.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Because I can see your argument.
Your argument is if somebody just keeps saying something that might happen, and then when something similar happens, he just takes credit for it.
Sure, that sounds suspicious, like maybe he doesn't know anything and he's just saying it.
dan friesen
Right, like the way that he constantly talks about a coming economic collapse.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And then 2008, 2009 happens.
jordan holmes
Summers of rage?
So many summers of rage.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It doesn't, it actually is, it cheapens the prediction.
jordan holmes
Ah.
dan friesen
And if you add that to all of the predictions that he's made that have not come true.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Primarily the globalists nuking American cities.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
That was a big one that he was pretty obsessed with.
jordan holmes
Well, Chicago was nuked.
dan friesen
Oh, the coming race war.
jordan holmes
Well, there was that.
dan friesen
All of these things that he's been wrong about that you just ignore.
He's shit.
He's shit at predicting things.
jordan holmes
Let me throw this at you.
Because this conspiracy theory is going to break the case wide open, alright?
dan friesen
I'm interested.
jordan holmes
So, Alex is right about everything.
But, the globalists, knowing that he's right, don't do it when he says they're going to do it, over and over and over again, to make him look insane, Dan!
dan friesen
But actually, that is what Alex believes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because he's talked about, like, you know, maybe they won't do it because we've talked about it.
unidentified
Exactly.
dan friesen
We've publicized their plan, and so now they won't do it.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
I don't know.
dan friesen
It's ridiculous.
jordan holmes
It's so stupid.
dan friesen
It's almost painful.
jordan holmes
It really is.
dan friesen
Now, also painful is Alex's deep-seated hatred of women.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, that's in there.
dan friesen
Boy, listen to this.
jordan holmes
That's down there.
alex jones
Statistically, women are 10, 20, 30 times, depending on the study, more likely to get in a van with a man that pulls out a knife or a gun and says, get in.
Most men will just run or fight because they know it's scarier to get in that van.
It's not because the men have a bunch of courage.
It's because they're not naive genetically.
Men are more programmed to fight and actually look through the options.
Women are programmed by their genetics, on average, to try to get along with everybody and try to make people ease back a little bit.
So, okay, sir, don't hurt me.
Everything's okay.
And then she ends up, you know, in a basement torture for two weeks before she's killed.
dan friesen
Yikes.
jordan holmes
You know, you really, really gotta believe that that's an inherently genetic trait.
Otherwise, you have to then deal with the fact that we actually live in a society that's oppressed women for so long and so brutally that the just acquiescence seems like an almost natural state of being as opposed to constant and near, I mean, just bananas.
Just bananas.
You gotta think it's genetic.
Otherwise, we need to change something about society, and we can't do that, Dan.
We can't do that.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm baffled.
I constantly end up in situations where I'm listening to this show, and I'm like, I've listened to hundreds, thousands of hours of his show, and I still am like...
I can't believe you believe that.
You believe that women are genetically subservient or something.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
dan friesen
Acquiescent.
jordan holmes
Then, like, what about, let's, and I'm going to throw this one out there, because we could easily bring up examples.
You know, you could easily bring up, like, a Greta Thunberg or, like, a Sonia Sotomayor or something along those lines.
dan friesen
Maybe someone more in Alex's lane, maybe a Joan of Arc.
jordan holmes
Totally, totally.
You could do that, but that's individuals.
That's anecdotal.
That's not enough to prove that genetically, maybe...
We're not dealing with something.
dan friesen
Alex loves anecdotal shit.
jordan holmes
So let's say there was a time when women weren't allowed to vote, right?
And the only way that they could get the vote was if a lot of them got together courageously.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That wouldn't be possible because genetically they can't do that.
dan friesen
Well, Alex would argue that men were the ones who gave women the right to vote.
jordan holmes
Never mind.
Point retracted.
Obviously I was wrong about this the whole time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So this is pretty gross.
alex jones
Women and children are way more likely to go into Stockholm Syndrome, and maybe that's a survival attribute.
Maybe it's best sometimes.
I mean, that's why the Romans and every other ancient empire where they would take over an area would kill men above the age of 10 or 11, and they would keep the women and girls, because the women and girls would self-enforce on each other and just instantly convert within a few days to make their children survive.
I mean, even if a woman just saw her husband of 20 years cut up and tortured to death, she's going to give those Roman centurions the best blowjob of their life that evening so that they don't kill her children.
I'm sorry to have to talk like that, but this is where real men need to come in and go, hey, women, you're under Stockholm Syndrome.
Stop wearing the mask.
Stop going along with your captors.
This is BS.
dan friesen
Yikes.
There was a look on your face.
Maybe halfway through that clip.
I think right about at the blowjob point.
jordan holmes
The blowjob part really got me.
That one got me.
That one was like, wow!
Really gonna do it, huh?
Really going for it.
dan friesen
I really, really enjoy the, I'm sorry I have to talk like this.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
No, no, no.
That's what you should probably say.
dan friesen
I would say he could illustrate this point that is inaccurate and dumb, but he could illustrate that point without...
The blowjob.
jordan holmes
You know what's ironic?
dan friesen
That's very unnecessary.
jordan holmes
What's ironic is his description of Stockholm Syndrome in this case works, but almost in the opposite that he's...
Like, Stockholm Syndrome actually describes the phenomenon where you're trapped, as the case in Stockholm that it started from, you're trapped with people who are in your socioeconomic status, and then the cops are evil, and you are like, oh, I get it.
But in this situation, his way of getting women out of Stockholm Syndrome is to walk up to them, scream, You're in Stockholm Syndrome!
Get out of there!
Wake up, you idiots!
Which would suggest that they should stay where they are with the people who are not screaming at them.
dan friesen
Yeah, I do think there's a couple things.
First, I don't know if Stockholm Syndrome's even a real thing.
jordan holmes
It's not.
Absolutely not.
It describes the phenomena of cops being assholes.
dan friesen
Second, Alex seems to be...
Saying that women are weak and they are susceptible to the Stockholm Syndrome because they want to give blowjobs to centurions to protect their children.
unidentified
Can't wait.
dan friesen
Now, I think that his solution to this is we need to control.
We need to aggressively threaten women to do what we want them to do.
jordan holmes
It does seem like that is his solution.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that's bad.
jordan holmes
That's probably not.
You know, you catch more flies with screaming in their faces that they're lied to.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex believes that this is the end, my friend.
This is the end of everything, perhaps, because he owes a lot of money soon.
jordan holmes
It's going to be fast.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But he likes to bring up this metaphor of, like, you know, we're about to get pulled in a riptide, right?
We're about to get sucked underwater.
So what you need to do is take a big breath of air.
And that's what he's all about.
He's all about telling people, get a deep breath in.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Right?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And there's some bad stuff.
Some more predictions of what's to come.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's not good.
alex jones
And it's my job, before they cut off all the communications, after a staged cyber attack, or a real war they're about to start, to get as many people as informed so they know what's going on.
It's kind of like you're out in the ocean, you're getting a riptide, you feel it sucking you under, get a breath, and then don't fight it once it pulls you under.
Statistically, it's going to pop you back out in 30 seconds, a minute or two.
Just hold your breath, relax, don't fight.
You're going to pop right back out, but I'm not saying don't fight them physically if they do this.
It's an analogy.
They're just like, oh gosh, I'm going to fight this.
Okay, that popped me out in five seconds.
That wasn't too bad.
Lots of people just fling around in it, panic and get the water down their throat.
Now, I'm just here telling everybody, get your deep breath.
Get your deep breath.
It's a deep breath.
I mean, they may launch a nuclear attack and say that the Russians did it.
I mean, they want us dead.
They want us out of the way.
They've made the decision.
And the fact that they've rolled ahead with this bio-attack means they could do anything.
And that's really why the senators aren't fighting them.
The senators have got their emergency exit plans during martial law.
They've got their underground base cards.
And, of course, once they get them in those bases, they're going to kill them all.
The whole COG system.
This is just the end of everything.
And so everybody else can rearrange deck chairs in the Titanic and everybody else can, you know, pretend like, oh, the liberals are just out of control.
No.
dan friesen
Okay, so maybe there'll be a fake cyber attack.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Or maybe a real war.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Maybe they'll nuke us.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Again, another nuke prediction.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then they'll blame it on Russia.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And then they'll get all the senators into their underground bases that they all have access to.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it's all just a trap to kill them within their underground bases.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
To what end, I'm not sure.
jordan holmes
Is there an end?
dan friesen
Goal?
Yeah, I think so.
And that is because once shit pops off, senators become dukes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, see, that's what I'm...
dan friesen
Dukes and duchesses.
jordan holmes
They always become dukes and duchesses.
dan friesen
Isn't that true?
They have to kill them off lest they control parcels of land.
jordan holmes
I would like insight into the conversation.
If we're down to two options, one of which is stage cyber attack and the other is a real war.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Who's on the, like, I know we could stage a cyber attack.
Be super easy.
No one would die.
I mean, a few people, because, you know, pacemakers.
But we're evil, so we're fine with that.
Or we could kill billions in a real war.
Which do you want to go with?
I feel like that conversation's a lot easier.
dan friesen
Well, but you don't understand how evil the globalists are and how much they like to kill people.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
They love to kill people, but also are putting a heart attack medication in the vaccine to stop people from having heart attacks when they get it.
Okay, great.
jordan holmes
Whatever.
Okay.
dan friesen
So dumb.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So Alex seems pretty mad.
I wonder if you can guess what he's mad about.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
I just don't know.
dan friesen
It has to do with the executive branch.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
Dan, I'm going to go with the Build Back Better Act.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Oh, I'm going to go with other legislation that's being proposed.
I'm going to go with real consequential and important information.
dan friesen
See, I think that your first instinct would be to think that it was that he's mad that Kamala Harris...
Would take over for a while while Joe Biden was under.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
I wouldn't think that because that would be...
It would require somebody so racist to ignore how meaningless it is.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
But there's bigger issues.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
Pete Buttigieg had a baby.
alex jones
Notice, whether it's the New York Times or CBS News, they all cropped it to not show an American flag.
Now, we look at that and go, look what a commie he is.
Look what a traitor he is.
But you know that every photo is him with just that flag.
And why do they do that?
dan friesen
Let's talk about Biden.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
Because they're now going to get ready to get rid of him.
He's served his usefulness.
Now they're like, oh, we've got to have Kamala and Buttigieg.
Hey, Buttigieg had a baby.
His husband laid in the hospital bed, thought you were so dumb.
They put on hospital scrubs and lay in a bed.
Look, we had a baby.
All part of the brainwashing.
It's some kid they got from somebody else.
jordan holmes
I mean...
alex jones
Oh, here we are with our multi-month-old baby.
We just had it.
You know, men have babies.
All about the gaslighting.
All about the mind control.
All about the control.
Oh, it's okay if Biden steps down because Buttigieg is gay.
Oh, my gosh.
But he had that on his resume?
Oh, my gosh.
I mean, can I be vice president?
I tell you what, I'm gay too, folks.
I need to be vice president now.
You know, Tim Cook is to run death camps.
Worst in the world.
On record.
Worst factories in the world.
Suicide nets.
Forced abortion.
16-18 hour work days.
Forced drugging of the slaves.
People living in containers.
But it's alright.
Tim Cook is what?
What's the answer?
G-A-Y.
And he wears a black turtleneck.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
Ha ha ha ha ha!
alex jones
Woo!
dan friesen
So one thing that's important to remember about the context of this clip is that that was not actually Ric Flair.
Dating back 15, 17 years even, Alex has a conspiracy theory that the Child Protective Service is trying to take away straight people's children to give them to gay couples.
So when you hear him talk about it, he's...
Very against gay adoption.
jordan holmes
Yes, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And so this is painfully homophobic.
jordan holmes
Oh, it's incredibly homophobic.
dan friesen
The other thing I want to bring up here is, does Alex really think that the reason that the working conditions in Apple factories isn't more tightly regulated is because Tim Cook is gay?
Like, that's dumb?
And deeply homophobic, too.
It's obviously a function of industry more than it is...
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
Because we can't regulate capitalism.
Because I feel like you're saying that this might be a result of unregulated capitalism.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And I think you're wrong.
This is the...
It's because gay people can get adoptions.
dan friesen
And they can get away with anything.
jordan holmes
Does he think that...
We think that they are telling us they actually had a baby.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Because it sounded like he thinks that they have brainwashed us into us thinking, wow, they really had a baby.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Because a man had a baby.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Because it sounds like that's what he's saying.
dan friesen
I think it's close, but I don't know, man.
I just think he's really angry at gay people.
unidentified
I mean, yes, but that's the problem.
jordan holmes
All of what he said, just boil it down to just be like, I hate gay people.
Because otherwise it sounds like you're mad at a scattershot.
Nonsense barrage.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, what he's saying doesn't make sense if you believe him to be tolerant.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
dan friesen
It all makes sense if you just recognize that he's a bigot.
jordan holmes
Oh, you're a massive bigot.
Okay.
Gotcha.
dan friesen
So Alex has a guy back on the show by the name of Steve Kirsch.
I don't know if you remember this guy.
He's an inventor.
He invented Infoseek, the early search engine.
Also is...
Entirely convinced that Gavin Newsom was paralyzed by a vaccine.
jordan holmes
He was.
We talked to him about it.
dan friesen
He's doubling down on this.
So Alex is going to have him back on to do that.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
alex jones
Coming up, we've got some of the videos of Newsom and his face looking partially paralyzed as sources have said, but that usually goes away in about two weeks.
And also that his children aren't vaccinated.
Steve Kerr has written about that as well on his Substack account.
But I wanted to get just all this cardiac news and information.
Coming out first, but yeah, that photo there, you can really see that he does look paralyzed.
It has the dimple on the other side, not on that side.
Really dramatic.
dan friesen
So there was a video going around that purported to show one side of Gavin Newsom's face drooping, thus proving that the vaccine gave him like Bell's palsy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they got him.
dan friesen
Video was edited.
It was just manipulated by someone who credits themselves as a digital artist.
jordan holmes
Oh, good!
dan friesen
It's fake.
The real version, before editing, is widely available even on Newsom's own Twitter page.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
In terms of the cardiac stuff that they're talking about, it's all just stuff that he's misrepresenting VAERS data on.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's not even worth responding to again.
But this is kind of fun.
Steve is sad.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
No one will debate him.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
steve kirsch
This is a complete disaster.
These vaccines should not be given to anyone under any circumstances, any age, any comorbidity.
The evidence just doesn't support that.
And nobody seems to want to debate me on this.
I have tried to debate anyone in the medical community.
I'll do it.
Because they accused me of spreading misinformation.
But nobody wants to debate me.
That's the best way to silence me is to debate me.
Nobody in mainstream academia, nobody in the CDC, nobody in the FDA, they all want to just ignore everything I'm saying because they don't want to confront what's going on.
dan friesen
Unfortunately, you're not in any of those groups that Steve is desiring to.
But I would say that the reason I don't want to debate him is because he's a weirdo.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's someone you don't want to be seen with in public, maybe.
You don't want to get into the mud with this kind of idiot.
jordan holmes
I wouldn't do it.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
I mean, I would do it, but if I was one of them, I wouldn't do it.
Totally.
That's why I'm not one of them.
dan friesen
Yes, and why you'd be open to debate.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Steve and Alex are talking about the vaccine, and they're saying it's going to be such a disaster for the medical community, and no one will ever trust them again, right?
And the mainstream media, no one will ever trust them.
jordan holmes
But they realize we've had the vaccine for months, months and months, and plenty of people are not dead.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But I want to focus on this part of this.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
So they're talking about, like, the trust is going to be completely gone.
No one's going to trust the medical community or the mainstream media ever again because of the whole charade of the vaccines, right?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I don't understand why they're bringing that up.
They don't want people to trust the mainstream media.
That's exactly what they want.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
It's really dumb for them to be all like, oh no, people won't believe you anymore.
unidentified
Exactly the outcome I rely on to make money.
dan friesen
It's fucking stupid listening to this nonsense.
alex jones
I saw one FDA board member a few months ago saying, in a quote, of course they got off the board, saying you're going to destroy belief and the credibility of vaccines for generations.
I mean, if you actually wanted to destroy medicine, you'd act like this.
steve kirsch
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
And that's exactly what they're doing.
But it's not just in vaccines.
People are not going to believe their doctors anymore.
Right?
That's what's going to come out of this.
They're not going to believe the doctors.
They're not going to believe anything that Congress says.
They're not going to believe anything that the mainstream media says.
And they're not going to believe any of the three letter agencies, the FDA, the CDC, and the NIH.
That's what's going to come out of this.
dan friesen
Those are all positive outcomes for Alex.
jordan holmes
That's exactly what he's always wanted, because he said you should never trust them in the first place.
dan friesen
Exactly, and you shouldn't trust doctors.
You should get the zinc and iodine and shit.
You get the supplements, you'll be fine.
Just take vitamins.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say.
dan friesen
All of this is exactly what Alex would want, and it's a little weird.
jordan holmes
I just...
Here's my...
I want an itemized list of what...
They do trust doctors on now.
Like, clearly they trust them on, like, cancer, right?
dan friesen
No.
Just rub some dirt on it.
jordan holmes
You're fine.
Or, like, I mean, I don't know.
There are diseases and shit that are unquestioned by these people, right?
dan friesen
Maybe a broken arm?
jordan holmes
Yeah, a broken arm!
Somebody will set their broken arm for him, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, the splint.
jordan holmes
But why is that okay and not...
You know, it's like it's all or nothing if you think that the medical establishment is murdering you.
You can't be like, well, I mean, if they give me the vaccine, they'll murder me.
But obviously, if I broke my leg, I need to go get my leg set.
dan friesen
Yeah, you think they're not creative enough to figure out a way to kill you with a broken leg.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
You can get a...
Oh, we got to give you this painkiller.
And then you're dead.
dan friesen
These doctors are evil and they've been doing it for a long time.
They can kill you with a toenail problem.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you should never go to the hospital for anything.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
I just think it's a little silly for them to pretend that they have any investment at all in people having faith or trust in authoritative sources, government agencies.
Their business is to erode that trust.
jordan holmes
No, Dan, there's nothing they want more than to be rendered obsolete by a mainstream media.
Performing exactly their duties.
dan friesen
They want to live in a society where everyone is comfortable and there's no bullshit flying around that people are profiting off of heavily.
jordan holmes
They just want honesty.
alex jones
Yep.
dan friesen
So, speaking of bullshit, here's Steve disqualifying himself as someone you should listen to.
alex jones
How do you look at the data on this?
Because I'm not as technical as you.
I just read all these articles and studies.
Where people, six months after the Pfizer shot, especially if they take the booster, they then get negative immunity, meaning before the shot they had better immunity than after they had it six months later.
That doesn't sound like a very good product to me.
steve kirsch
Yeah, if you look on the exposed...
They have some graphs.
They did some really nice graphs showing vaccine efficacy waning.
So you get the vaccine and it appears to work for just a little while and then it goes down to zero and then it goes negative, which means you're more likely to be infected.
If you get the vaccine.
dan friesen
Amazing.
We talked about this on a previous episode.
This is a doctored set of information.
So if he's somebody who would find that to be compelling and not look into it a little bit further, not recognize that this information has been manipulated very transparently, I don't think I'm going to trust him on much.
jordan holmes
I mean, if you give me any graph...
That clearly has whiteout on it because there's a section you didn't want me to see.
dan friesen
Wait, this is crossed out.
unidentified
What is that?
jordan holmes
Exactly!
You didn't even hide it!
You just used a fucking permanent marker.
Then you're done!
You don't ever get to get listened to again.
dan friesen
Yeah, and among the many sins of that expose article is that the person who put it together did take out lines of data that didn't work for his argument.
That is disqualifying.
jordan holmes
It would be...
It would be like if somebody asked you for some accounting information and you didn't want them to know the full accounting information, so you took the, at random, the QuickBooks file, and then gave it to another person to talk to the information.
dan friesen
So, if you're not convinced by this expose thing, which you shouldn't be, and you're not convinced by the fake video of Gavin Newsom's face...
jordan holmes
Super not convinced.
dan friesen
Maybe.
You will be convinced by Steve having 17 pieces of details and information.
alex jones
Let's start getting into Newsom.
You read a big article about that saying Newsom's lying about his vaccine injury, and here you can prove it.
steve kirsch
Yeah, so look, I've got 17 different sources.
There are 17 different pieces of evidence, and they're all consistent with the hypothesis that Gavin Newsom is vaccine injured.
dan friesen
So I went to his substack, which I should say he's heavily promoting on this appearance.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, I imagine so.
dan friesen
I think that's the game.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But I found his article.
Gavin Newsom is lying about his vaccine injury.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And here he has his list of points.
jordan holmes
17. No, it's grown to 19. What, does he only do prime numbers?
dan friesen
Must.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So I think it was probably like, uh-oh, this is going to get QAnon excited.
It's 17. Oh, shit.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Better add a few more.
So here's the first one.
Kids were in school on November 1st through 3rd during the climate meeting when he was supposed to be there.
So what was his excuse for not attending by Zoom?
It couldn't be to be a good dad since his kids weren't home.
So what was it?
Why didn't he explain it on November 1st?
Why do we still not know?
How come none of the fact checkers ask this question?
Could it be the fact checkers are biased?
jordan holmes
Ooh.
Or...
Could it be that you never looked for the answers to that question?
dan friesen
I don't know.
So here's number three.
So one of his pieces of evidence is...
jordan holmes
A second-hand account of third-hand information.
dan friesen
From Alex, and now he's using this article to make an argument on Alex's show that relies on evidence that he got from Alex.
jordan holmes
You know, that Ouroboros of far-right beliefs are just impenetrable.
dan friesen
Quote, this is number eight, quote, Gavin had his bad side away from the camera when he appeared.
The lighting was poor and the focus was bad, and the shots were long.
Here's number nine.
Quote, we never saw him walk on camera during his first public appearance after the recovery period.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Here's number 12. Quote, multiple Twitter postings suggested Bell's palsy or Guillain-Barre syndrome.
jordan holmes
Just multiple Twitter posts suggested that.
dan friesen
I don't know what that means.
jordan holmes
Oh, it just means multiple Twitter posts suggested that.
That's a piece of evidence.
dan friesen
Sure.
Here's number 18. Quote, clearly I'm not the only one with suspicions here.
And then there's a hyperlink to check out this meme page.
jordan holmes
I want to see that episode of Columbo where he's like, just one more thing.
dan friesen
Check out this meme page.
jordan holmes
Have you seen this meme page?
dan friesen
Here's the last one.
jordan holmes
There's some people who tweeted saying you did it.
dan friesen
Here's the last one on his list.
It's over 19. Quote, I have more, but it would compromise sources.
jordan holmes
What?
No, that's not a detail!
dan friesen
No, it's the absence of a detail.
unidentified
It's an explanation for why you don't have a detail.
jordan holmes
That's not fair.
dan friesen
No, this is a really stupid list.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
I want to go back to all those 1920s drawing room.
Now we get all the suspects together and solve this together in the same room around the dinner table.
I want that, but with this level of information.
I want it to be like, and there, he's Steely Dan over there.
He jumped upside, and then we saw somebody from another town over who met a friend of his over there who said that maybe one time you did it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think that Steve Kirsch is more Hastings than Poirot.
jordan holmes
Yeah, let's go that way.
unidentified
He does not have his little gray cells working.
dan friesen
This is bad.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So, you don't have to believe Steve.
And I don't.
But he has another reason why he's still right.
jordan holmes
Okay.
steve kirsch
I'm now at the stage where I'm willing to risk some money to prove a point.
jordan holmes
All right.
steve kirsch
So, I'm now willing to risk, as of yesterday...
I just put out an offer to say, Gavin, I'm willing to bet you a million dollars that you're a liar.
So I'm risking a million dollars.
You don't have to believe me at all in my analysis in what the evidence showed.
All you have to believe is that there's some millionaire who is willing to risk a million dollars that he's right.
So he probably thinks he's right.
And I can guarantee you, Gavin Newsom is not going to take my bet.
No way.
dan friesen
No shit.
jordan holmes
Wow.
What a great bet.
dan friesen
The governor of California is not going to dignify this bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm going to take all million dollar bets from now on.
Anybody want to bet me anything for a million dollars?
dan friesen
This was on November 16th, he's saying this.
This got bumped up to five million.
And then on November 18th, this is an update on his sub stack.
Quote, I've raised my offer to name your price in a private email to Jennifer Newsom.
No response so far.
Wow.
Unlimited money.
We'd make the Guinness Book of World Records for highest price ever paid for a blank piece of paper.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
He sent Kevin Newsom's wife an email.
He's harassing family members now and being like, I'll give you any amount of money.
jordan holmes
Wow, you know what?
Debate me!
In order to disbelieve this, Dan, you would have to have an operating premise.
With, I mean, I'm sure no evidence, that rich people are willing to blow a lot of money on stupid ideas.
You would have to believe something so insane that no one could ever believe that a rich person would blow their money on a stupid thing.
Never!
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
So, we have one last clip here, and it's Steve explaining exactly how this bet would go.
And as you're listening to this, imagine...
Imagine a world where a sitting governor would engage with this bullshit.
jordan holmes
These are the steps that are going to, if the bed is taken, this is how it will play out.
dan friesen
Just imagine a governor of California deciding, I'm going to get involved with this.
jordan holmes
We're getting some great fanfic.
That's what I'm hearing.
dan friesen
This is so dumb.
steve kirsch
I'm offering him a million dollars.
All he has to do is give me a piece of paper that lists all the doctors that he talked to.
For the purposes of discussing vaccine injury, from the time that he got vaccinated to 21 days later.
I don't want to know anything else.
That's it.
Just the list of doctors.
And on that piece of paper is the permission that he grants to those doctors, and he orders those doctors to discuss with me any conversations relating to vaccine injury.
Now, if Gavin Newsom is telling the truth, He'll give me a blank sheet of paper, and I will give him a check for a million dollars.
Now, to me, that's a deal that most people shouldn't refuse.
He's revealing nothing about any of his personal medical information.
The piece of paper is blank, and he gets a check for a million dollars.
alex jones
And you're a well-known tech guy.
You've got plenty of money.
So what's stopping him?
steve kirsch
Well, what's stopping him is he's not telling the truth.
And that's why he won't accept my bet, because if he's telling the truth, he's going to hand me a piece of paper that is not blank.
And if the piece of paper isn't blank, you know immediately that he lied to people.
dan friesen
So basically, not engaging with this stupid bet is proof for Steve that he's right.
That's ridiculous.
Even talk to this guy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's because what he's doing is essentially engaging in blackmail, but without leverage.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Because if you do give him a blank piece of paper...
That's not going to be the end of it.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
In the same way that if you give in to the demands of a blackmailer, they're going to continue the blackmailing relationship.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's not like we're done.
dan friesen
Right.
This is going to be a thing where, oh, you've given me a blank piece of paper, but what if I were to tell you I know you saw a doctor?
It's fucking stupid.
It's pointless to engage with this nonsense, but it plays.
For PR stuff in the right-wing media.
You can say, oh, if his conscience was clean, you'd have no problem.
I'd give him a million dollars!
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
What's fun about that is that even a reasonable conservative who buys into this as being a good idea would never take that bet.
It's a stupid person who's like...
Oh, you're gonna pay up.
One, you're not.
And two, there's no strings attached to this.
Sure.
Sure, you fucking liar.
It's so weird that they'll believe it in the abstract, but in the personal, they would never believe that.
dan friesen
Even best case scenario, it's still not good.
Like, okay, you got a million dollars, but you had to publicly engage and justify and sort of give credibility to someone like Steve as being worth...
Your time and engagement.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah.
dan friesen
And that alone is...
Publicity that Steve couldn't buy for his sub-stack.
jordan holmes
Yeah, which is why he would never accept it from somebody who doesn't have that to offer him, you know?
He's never going to accept this bet from somebody from the CDC or the FDA, because why would he?
They're not going to give him the juice.
But if it's a Newsom, or if it's somebody on TV, or if it's somebody like that, who he can turn it into a spectacle around, then of course, yeah, that's what he's going to do, and he's not going to pay up on that fucking back!
dan friesen
Probably not.
But maybe!
I mean, he's conceivably quite rich.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and he's also insane, clearly.
dan friesen
It does seem that way.
So this episode was gross in a number of ways.
unidentified
No, it's great!
dan friesen
It's great!
I think, you know, you see a lot of pretty explicit chauvinism, homophobia.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
Just outright bigotry all over the place.
jordan holmes
Just really ticking those boxes.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it sucks.
jordan holmes
It's hard to believe why people want him off the air, Dan.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's hard to understand why people would be like, you suck.
jordan holmes
You gotta go.
unidentified
You suck.
jordan holmes
Go away.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
Anyway, Jordan, we'll be back.
jordan holmes
Indeed we will.
dan friesen
For another episode in the near future.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
We are also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed, Jordan.
dan friesen
Yep.
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
jordan holmes
And now...
Here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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