Knowledge Fight - #619: November 16, 2021
Aired: 2021-11-22
Duration: 01:13:23


=== Dan Jordan's Desk Covet (03:54) ===

[00:00:21]  I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
[00:00:29]  Knowledge fight.
[00:00:29]  Dan and Jordan.
[00:00:31]  knowledge fight.
[00:00:32]  Need money.
[00:00:36]  Andy and Kansas.
[00:00:40]  Andy and Kansas.
[00:00:42]  Stop it.
[00:00:42]  Andy and Kansas.
[00:00:43]  Andy and Kansas.
[00:00:44]  It's time to pray.
[00:00:46]  Andy and Kansas, you're on the air.
[00:00:48]  Thanks for holding us.
[00:00:49]  I'm a Christian caller.
[00:00:50]  I'm a huge fan.
[00:00:51]  I love your world.
[00:00:52]  Knowledge Fight.
[00:00:53]  KnowledgeFight.com I love you.
[00:00:59]  Hey, everybody!
[00:01:00]  Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
[00:01:00]  I'm Dan.
[00:01:01]  I'm Jordan.
[00:01:01]  We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Sleen, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
[00:01:06]  Oh, indeed we are.
[00:01:07]  Dan.
[00:01:07]  Jordan.
[00:01:08]  Dan!
[00:01:08]  Jordan.
[00:01:09]  I have a quick question for you.
[00:01:10]  Sure.
[00:01:10]  What's your bright spot today?
[00:01:11]  My bright spot today is possibly something uncharacteristic.
[00:01:15]  Maybe people wouldn't think this of me, because I don't like violent video games.
[00:01:18]  Sure.
[00:01:19]  Generally, I like...
[00:01:20]  I think things like Donkey Kong Country, maybe, you know, soothing.
[00:01:24]  Like, games where the violence is you jump on someplace.
[00:01:27]  Right, right, right, right.
[00:01:28]  You jump on a Goomba or a Koopa Troopa.
[00:01:30]  Yeah, it's almost theoretical violence.
[00:01:32]  Yeah, cartoony stuff.
[00:01:33]  Yeah.
[00:01:34]  But I just saw that Grand Theft Auto 3, Vice City, and San Andreas were released on the Switch.
[00:01:41]  Uh-huh.
[00:01:43]  I'm over the moon.
[00:01:44]  Over the moon!
[00:01:45]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:01:46]  I played the shit out of those when I was younger.
[00:01:51]  Like, 17 onward or whatever.
[00:01:53]  And there's just something about it.
[00:01:55]  I don't really like the violence aspect of it.
[00:01:57]  And I kind of try and play that down as much as I can.
[00:02:00]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:02:01]  Don't commit unnecessary violence.
[00:02:02]  Right.
[00:02:03]  But they're such a great, like, open world but not too big kind of vibe.
[00:02:10]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:02:10]  I like...
[00:02:11]  People telling me what to do, like going on missions and stuff.
[00:02:14]  It's fun.
[00:02:15]  It's fun.
[00:02:16]  Yeah, I remember playing those games and being like, well, I've seen my friends play this and they just commit violence all the time.
[00:02:22]  I am going to walk to my next mission like a gentleman.
[00:02:26]  I'm not going to steal anybody's car.
[00:02:28]  Yeah, that would be rude!
[00:02:30]  I think also, I've started on 3. And I think that there are some criticisms that people have that some of the aesthetic of the original version on the PS2 are gone.
[00:02:42]  And I kind of do agree with that.
[00:02:44]  It's stylistically a little...
[00:02:46]  Okay, okay.
[00:02:47]  But I don't mind.
[00:02:48]  Sure.
[00:02:48]  I actually, I don't mind that too much.
[00:02:51]  But yeah, just get a thrill out of finding a hidden package.
[00:02:58]  It's just great.
[00:02:59]  You're running around like, why am I on this rooftop?
[00:03:01]  Oh, haha, that's why.
[00:03:03]  Great.
[00:03:04]  Anyway, what about you?
[00:03:05]  Dan, my bright spot is a little bit of a twilight spot.
[00:03:09]  I'll tell you, it begins with breaking a commandment.
[00:03:11]  First, Dan, since you've gotten this desk, I have coveted.
[00:03:16]  I have coveted.
[00:03:17]  I've coveted the shit out of this desk.
[00:03:18]  See, I told you it was a nice desk.
[00:03:20]  It's a nice desk, so I was like, I'm not proud of this, but I had to get myself a new desk.
[00:03:26]  I had to.
[00:03:26]  I didn't want to.
[00:03:28]  I just couldn't look at my old desk anymore.
[00:03:31]  I understand.
[00:03:32]  Right?
[00:03:32]  So I got it.
[00:03:33]  And as you know about how I buy things, I...
[00:03:38]  Found my price range, got a deal, and then just ordered it with no real consideration.
[00:03:44]  No, no.
[00:03:44]  It's probably the first thing.
[00:03:45]  Check it off.
[00:03:46]  Like, I don't care.
[00:03:47]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:03:47]  So it's huge.
[00:03:49]  It's way bigger than I thought it was.
[00:03:50]  You gotta be careful about that.
[00:03:52]  Incredibly complicated.
[00:03:53]  It took me two full days to put together.
[00:03:55]  Wow.
[00:03:55]  I was so proud of myself.
[00:03:57]  I completed it.
[00:03:58]  And then the next morning, I opened the drawer and the whole thing, the whole drawer fell apart.

=== Crazy Policy Victory (13:06) ===

[00:04:03]  As if it was just like a cartoon.
[00:04:06]  Yes, like an absolute cartoon.
[00:04:08]  So my bright spot was successfully putting that thing together.
[00:04:11]  That does feel good.
[00:04:12]  It felt great.
[00:04:13]  Yeah.
[00:04:13]  And my dark spot is that it has already fallen apart.
[00:04:16]  But you'll have another bright spot and then you'll get to put it together again.
[00:04:18]  Right.
[00:04:19]  So congratulations.
[00:04:20]  I'm excited.
[00:04:21]  Double bright spot.
[00:04:22]  Yeah.
[00:04:22]  So Jordan, today we are going to be going over a Modern Day episode.
[00:04:26]  We're going to be talking about November.
[00:04:27]  September 16th.
[00:04:28]  Blackjack.
[00:04:29]  21 blackjack.
[00:04:30]  I was trying to false start it.
[00:04:32]  Too soon, kid.
[00:04:33]  I was trying to false start it.
[00:04:34]  Too early, kid.
[00:04:34]  I can't remember what the real Fast and Furious line is and what the wrong one is that I've taught myself is the right one.
[00:04:41]  Oh, the one at the very beginning whenever he hits the NOS too soon.
[00:04:44]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:04:45]  Too early, too soon.
[00:04:46]  Who cares?
[00:04:47]  Doesn't matter.
[00:04:47]  Anyway, we're going to be talking about that.
[00:04:50]  It's...
[00:04:52]  Fucked up.
[00:04:54]  Yeah, that sounds about right.
[00:04:55]  It's a mess.
[00:04:56]  And also, Alex premieres a bit of his interview with General Flynn.
[00:05:01]  General Mike Flynn.
[00:05:02]  Gotcha.
[00:05:02]  And so we'll be taking a brief detour to go over that interview.
[00:05:05]  Excellent.
[00:05:06]  And I'm excited to get down to business on that.
[00:05:08]  But first, Jordan, let's take a little moment to say thank you and hello to some new wonks.
[00:05:11]  Oh, that's a great idea.
[00:05:12]  So first, Jane, thank you so much.
[00:05:14]  You are now a policy wonk.
[00:05:15]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:05:16]  Thank you, Jane.
[00:05:16]  Take out next, Gregory.
[00:05:18]  Thank you so much.
[00:05:18]  You are now a policy wonk.
[00:05:19]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:05:21]  Thanks, Greg.
[00:05:21]  Thank you.
[00:05:22]  Next, Jess.
[00:05:23]  Thank you so much.
[00:05:23]  You are now a policy wonk.
[00:05:24]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:05:25]  Thanks, Jess.
[00:05:26]  Thank you.
[00:05:27]  Next, Drew.
[00:05:27]  Thank you so much.
[00:05:28]  You are now a policy wonk.
[00:05:29]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:05:30]  Thank you, Drew.
[00:05:31]  And Randy and Candy from Arkansas.
[00:05:33]  Thank you so much.
[00:05:34]  You are now both policy wonks.
[00:05:36]  I'm a policy wonk.
[00:05:38]  Thank you very much, Randy and Candy.
[00:05:39]  Thank you.
[00:05:41]  So, Jordan, like I said, this episode's pretty fucked up.
[00:05:44]  I'll...
[00:05:45]  I don't like some of the content that we're going to end up talking about.
[00:05:48]  Well, the world!
[00:05:49]  I don't like some of the world's content that's been going on.
[00:05:52]  Yeah, this is a little different, though.
[00:05:54]  It's not the same kind of fucked up.
[00:05:56]  It's just...
[00:05:57]  Anyway, here's another context drop from today's show.
[00:06:00]  I'm the devil!
[00:06:01]  I've got to be taken over here!
[00:06:02]  I've been all this...
[00:06:03]  All right!
[00:06:06]  Okay!
[00:06:07]  Yep.
[00:06:08]  So we're going to start here, actually, not on the episode, but we're going to start with a little video that Alex put out where he is really embodying his current spirit, his current vibe.
[00:06:19]  This is a little video that he put out on Band.Video.
[00:06:24]  Save InfoWars Defense Fund.
[00:06:27]  Save InfoWars Defense Fund.
[00:06:29]  You can find the link at SaveInfoWars.com.
[00:06:32]  I wrote it on this folder right here.
[00:06:35]  Look, I'm up against the Democratic Party.
[00:06:37]  Real quick, I just got to pause it.
[00:06:39]  Did he think he was going to forget saveinfowars.com?
[00:06:42]  I guess.
[00:06:42]  He's got to write it on the folder?
[00:06:43]  That's the only explanation.
[00:06:45]  I made a note.
[00:06:46]  It's the only thing, but it's the whole thing!
[00:06:48]  Yeah.
[00:06:48]  ...up against people that bankrupt at Remington.
[00:06:50]  They want to take us off air.
[00:06:52]  And so we've got to fight this in court.
[00:06:54]  We've got to go to the jury trials.
[00:06:56]  Even though I've already been found guilty by default, now they're going to try to...
[00:07:00]  Tell the jury how guilty I am.
[00:07:02]  So guilty.
[00:07:02]  It's going to take a lot of money to fight this and a lot of money for the appeals.
[00:07:06]  And so I can't spend the money we have paying our crew and running our independent media outlet that reaches millions of people without your support.
[00:07:14]  Infowars is doing its most important work ever right now.
[00:07:18]  So this is a no-brainer.
[00:07:20]  Please go to SaveInfoWars.com.
[00:07:22]  Make a $10 donation, $1,000 donation.
[00:07:25]  Wealthy people out there.
[00:07:27]  Your free speech is being destroyed.
[00:07:29]  InfoWars is just the first domino to fall.
[00:07:31]  And if wealthy folks don't start spending their money promoting liberty, promoting freedom, we're going to lose this country.
[00:07:38]  And we're going to lose.
[00:07:39]  The world to tyranny.
[00:07:41]  So, please go to SaveInfoWars.com.
[00:07:44]  It's Give, Send, Go.
[00:07:45]  They're great folks.
[00:07:45]  They're patriots.
[00:07:46]  We're banned everywhere else even being able to raise money.
[00:07:49]  And this will help keep us in the fight for the next few years.
[00:07:51]  So, I've never issued an alert this serious.
[00:07:54]  I need your help right now.
[00:07:55]  Stand up for yourself.
[00:07:57]  Stand up for your rights.
[00:07:58]  Stand up for free speech.
[00:07:59]  Stand up for America.
[00:08:00]  And don't let these bullies intimidate anybody.
[00:08:02]  Please donate right now at SaveInfoWars.com.
[00:08:05]  Hey, rich people.
[00:08:06]  Cough, cough.
[00:08:07]  Elon Musk.
[00:08:08]  Cough, cough.
[00:08:08]  Joe Rose.
[00:08:09]  Amazing.
[00:08:10]  I love a good appeal to rich people's sense of dignity.
[00:08:14]  Yeah, and their love of the First Amendment.
[00:08:16]  Oh, rich people love the First Amendment so goddamn much.
[00:08:20]  Yeah, so this is what Alex does.
[00:08:21]  He has absolutely no standards and doesn't give a fuck about how his actions and words affect other people, so he ends up acting like a total dick, and then every now and then he gets himself into trouble.
[00:08:31]  He milks that trouble for all the free press that he can get out of it, presenting himself as a persecuted victim the whole time.
[00:08:37]  If he's allowed to, He ends up settling and he makes quiet apologies to get himself off the hook like he did with James Oliphantus and Hamdi Ulukaya.
[00:08:44]  When that's not an option or, you know, someone important to Infowars ends up owing a lot of money, you better believe that an emergency money bomb is coming right around the corner.
[00:08:53]  Oh, yeah.
[00:08:54]  We called that pretty...
[00:08:55]  It was not an ambitious prediction.
[00:08:59]  No, it's not...
[00:09:00]  It's pretty obvious.
[00:09:01]  It did not require any psychic powers.
[00:09:04]  No.
[00:09:05]  Merely deduction.
[00:09:06]  This doesn't have anything to do with Alex being able to afford appeals or fight the good fight to clear his name and defend the First Amendment or whatever bullshit he thinks he's doing.
[00:09:16]  This is trying to trick the audience into paying what he's going to end up being ordered to pay for losing these suits.
[00:09:21]  This is basically the equivalent of being a teen and begging your parents to give you money to pay off a speeding ticket you got when you were joyriding.
[00:09:29]  Alex wants someone else to face the consequences for him so he can continue his flagrantly irresponsible bullshit that'll end up leading to more consequences that the audience...
[00:09:37]  will have to bail him out of them.
[00:09:38]  Yeah.
[00:09:38]  It's honestly very sad and childish, and I hope the audience doesn't fall for it again.
[00:09:42]  But I think they might not.
[00:09:45]  I think they might not be totally convinced.
[00:09:47]  You think so?
[00:09:47]  I went to the Give, Send, Go page.
[00:09:49]  How's it going?
[00:09:49]  He's trying to raise $2 million.
[00:09:51]  And we've Give, Sended him?
[00:09:54]  8% of it.
[00:09:56]  And it's been up for a bit.
[00:09:58]  People have had time to find their way to that page to donate.
[00:10:04]  That's a Give, Send, Go do not.
[00:10:06]  Pass go.
[00:10:08]  Do not collect 200 times.
[00:10:09]  I suspect he might have banged this gong too many times.
[00:10:14]  And I don't know.
[00:10:15]  He might be fishing in a dry well.
[00:10:17]  Yeah.
[00:10:17]  And I think that the audience sees the idea that Joe Rogan just got a $100 million contract with Spotify.
[00:10:24]  If he believes what Alex says and really thinks that this is that important, $2 million is a drop in the bucket.
[00:10:29]  He should be able to get that from Rogan easy.
[00:10:32]  Why do you have to ask the people who are going paycheck to paycheck?
[00:10:36]  You know, the good people in the audience.
[00:10:37]  Totally.
[00:10:37]  Why are you trying to bilk them?
[00:10:39]  Yeah, absolutely.
[00:10:39]  Because Rogan knows it's bullshit, too.
[00:10:41]  Of course it's bullshit.
[00:10:42]  Nobody wants to pay for it.
[00:10:44]  Yeah.
[00:10:45]  Anyway, good luck.
[00:10:47]  Yeah, I know.
[00:10:48]  I'm excited to see how this one goes.
[00:10:50]  Yeah.
[00:10:50]  So here we go.
[00:10:51]  We're going to start off on the 16th, and here's where we're at.
[00:10:54]  Let me tell you what's really huge and got me having butterflies right now.
[00:11:00]  And I don't get butterflies a lot.
[00:11:02]  I'm having really big ones today.
[00:11:05]  I think a big war is about to start.
[00:11:07]  Something big is about to go down.
[00:11:09]  My Spidey Sense has never been this strong.
[00:11:12]  It's like on fire right now.
[00:11:15]  Woo!
[00:11:16]  Talk about chills.
[00:11:18]  Talk about the stomach.
[00:11:24]  Man, that is some energy right there.
[00:11:27]  There's some big stuff.
[00:11:29]  Yep, so big stuff.
[00:11:30]  I'm going to lose all of my money!
[00:11:33]  I'm gonna lose all of my money!
[00:11:34]  Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
[00:11:35]  I'm gonna lose it all?
[00:11:36]  It looks bad if you present yourself that way, so you probably should just say that there's a giant war coming.
[00:11:42]  There's probably a huge war coming.
[00:11:43]  Probably the end of the world is right around the corner.
[00:11:45]  I mean, I gotta have to guess that all the world's nuclear powers are gonna start a war against each other immediately, or I'm going to lose all of my money.
[00:11:53]  I don't know which one...
[00:11:54]  What you don't understand is me being rich is the only thing that is holding back the end of the world.
[00:11:58]  I would not be surprised if he believed that on some level.
[00:12:01]  Yeah.
[00:12:02]  It would be good to see him try to pull that one off.
[00:12:05]  So yeah, Alex is high.
[00:12:08]  But he's high on fighting Satan.
[00:12:10]  That's what you should know.
[00:12:11]  I'm high as a kite fighting Satan.
[00:12:13]  I mean, I would not be anywhere else.
[00:12:16]  The more I fight tyranny, the more I face down evil, the more I don't back down, just the more the universe opens up to just things I could never even imagine.
[00:12:25]  And it's a massive brain boost, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:12:30]  An expansion of the soul, like Narls Barkley talks about.
[00:12:33]  What is happening?
[00:12:34]  Going crazy, but he's not going crazy, and there's so much space.
[00:12:38]  It's just...
[00:12:39]  Top of your head blows off, and...
[00:12:42]  It's just so amazing to be in the quiet place at the most high.
[00:12:50]  Like the philosopher Narls Barkley.
[00:12:52]  I mean...
[00:12:53]  I mean...
[00:12:54]  Like...
[00:12:56]  Oh boy, let's just start with CeeLo.
[00:12:59]  Amazing voice.
[00:13:00]  No argument there.
[00:13:02]  No argument there.
[00:13:03]  A lot of bad shit.
[00:13:04]  A lot of bad dude shit going on there.
[00:13:06]  I was looking over his...
[00:13:08]  His Wikipedia page.
[00:13:10]  And it was bizarre how there was sort of this pattern of him saying horrible things on Twitter and then immediately going, hey man, I didn't mean to offend anybody.
[00:13:18]  No, listen, I'm sorry.
[00:13:19]  I just have terrible thoughts that I want to enforce upon people and then I don't want to face any consequences for them.
[00:13:25]  I'm CeeLo Green.
[00:13:27]  I didn't cut this clip because it would be too long and I don't really care that much, but the next commercial break he comes in with crazy.
[00:13:36]  Of course he does!
[00:13:37]  And he's just like, Just singing along.
[00:13:40]  Just going for it.
[00:13:41]  Oh, boy.
[00:13:42]  Does he go for the falsetto?
[00:13:43]  Maybe I'm crazy.
[00:13:44]  No, no.
[00:13:44]  Oh, come on!
[00:13:45]  He's Shatnering it.
[00:13:46]  Driving me crazy!
[00:13:48]  I would like to see the upper end of Alex's register.
[00:13:51]  I want to know what the falsetto is.
[00:13:53]  It's probably not great.
[00:13:54]  Speaking of not great, Alex gets to this clip of Mike Flynn, the interview, pretty quick in the show, pretty early on.
[00:14:01]  Okay.
[00:14:01]  All right, let's go ahead, my friends, and go to this very important little short clip.
[00:14:07]  That's from just the intro of the hour-long interview with General Flynn that we shot Saturday in San Antonio.
[00:14:16]  It's in one of the little green rooms off where he was speaking to a crowd of 5,000 people.
[00:14:20]  And we're also on Thursday, got some other interviews I did and a speech I gave.
[00:14:24]  That's going to be on Thursday, and it's very powerful as well with Patrick Byrd.
[00:14:27]  But this is the interview that really, if people listen to it, will change the world.
[00:14:35]  This is the battle plan of victory here.
[00:14:37]  So it's the battle plan of victory.
[00:14:39]  Sure.
[00:14:39]  So Alex plays this little clip.
[00:14:41]  It's like a sizzle reel kind of of this interview.
[00:14:43]  The Flinterview, as I'm going to call it.
[00:14:45]  Don't you dare.
[00:14:46]  Come on.
[00:14:46]  I'm taking it away from you.
[00:14:47]  So the part that's hilarious about this is that the overarching theme of the clips that Alex plays on his show is just Flynn saying that Alex was right all along.
[00:14:57]  It's really self-aggrandizing.
[00:15:00]  I didn't get any indication that the interview was a battle plan for victory as much as it was a preview almost entirely about how great Alex is.
[00:15:08]  And that doesn't surprise me, since he's a narcissist and having people talk about how great you are is kind of the road to victory.
[00:15:14]  Anyway, I didn't feel like I got a good sense of what the interview was about from this sizzle reel, so like I said, I...
[00:15:20]  Decided to watch the full version and see what I could learn.
[00:15:23]  Sure, sure, sure, sure.
[00:15:23]  And I was really particularly trying to figure out, like, where is the battle plan?
[00:15:28]  Right.
[00:15:29]  Because that's what Alex is saying this is.
[00:15:31]  There's, like, useful information moving forward.
[00:15:33]  Absolutely.
[00:15:34]  This is how we're going to achieve victory.
[00:15:36]  We need to divide these certain groups.
[00:15:38]  We need to flank them, et cetera, et cetera.
[00:15:40]  Battle plans.
[00:15:41]  It's mostly complaining.
[00:15:43]  Well.
[00:15:46]  There's a lot to complain about.
[00:15:47]  Yeah.
[00:15:48]  So they touch on the sixth a little bit.
[00:15:50]  Sure.
[00:15:50]  And, you know, I think of people that are following what I'm doing or what's happening in my life and everything that's happening in yours as well, with all of this stuff with the January 6th, they call it the insurrection crucifixion, because that's what it is.
[00:16:08]  And in a way, you know, from a biblical sense, Nancy Pelosi's like the Pontius Pilate of this operation that they are doing to basically steal away all of the...
[00:16:20]  The other aspects of what's happening across this country, like you got the Durham report, right?
[00:16:25]  Whatever comes out of that.
[00:16:26]  The Durham investigation's ongoing.
[00:16:27]  And there's been a lot of things dropped.
[00:16:29]  There haven't been things dropped.
[00:16:31]  People aren't covering stuff up.
[00:16:33]  Look.
[00:16:34]  Did anybody try and shit on Pontius Pilate's desk?
[00:16:37]  Not that I'm aware of.
[00:16:38]  I don't think he had a desk.
[00:16:40]  Ooh, that's a good point.
[00:16:42]  Yeah.
[00:16:43]  He had some water.
[00:16:44]  I'm trying to follow this metaphor.
[00:16:47]  Sure, yeah, I'm struggling.
[00:16:48]  Who's Jesus?
[00:16:50]  I have no idea!
[00:16:51]  How is Nancy Pelosi Pontius Pilate?

=== Speculations on the 2016 Election Fraud (04:38) ===

[00:16:54]  Are the Oath Keepers Jesus?
[00:16:57]  Collectively?
[00:16:58]  Who is Nancy Pelosi?
[00:17:02]  Well, I mean, did somebody bring something to Nancy Pelosi that she then washed her hands of?
[00:17:07]  Like, did somebody say, uh, hey, uh, Nancy, we want all of these insurrectionists to be free or whatever because they're the messiah.
[00:17:16]  Uh-huh.
[00:17:17]  And she was like, nah, dude.
[00:17:18]  Wait, no, that's even backwards.
[00:17:20]  She would have been the one saying, no, everybody here is fine, don't kill them.
[00:17:24]  Is QAnon Barabbas?
[00:17:25]  I guess, yeah!
[00:17:26]  Yeah, then the crowd is chanting for Mike Pence's death, but she's saying, don't kill Mike Pence.
[00:17:32]  Mike Pence is Jesus.
[00:17:33]  Wait.
[00:17:34]  Ugh.
[00:17:34]  Yep.
[00:17:34]  See, this is a little confusing.
[00:17:37]  I understand the desire, because insurrection rhymes with crucifixion.
[00:17:40]  Yeah, no, it's great.
[00:17:41]  Sort of.
[00:17:42]  I appreciate that wordplay.
[00:17:44]  I understand why you want to get as biblical as you can.
[00:17:47]  Oh, of course.
[00:17:47]  Because it's red meat for the audience.
[00:17:49]  They love it.
[00:17:49]  But this is dumb.
[00:17:51]  I don't like it when people get both reality and unreality wrong.
[00:17:56]  Sure.
[00:17:56]  That's real frustrating.
[00:17:57]  Pick one.
[00:17:58]  Speaking of things that are questionable in terms of reality.
[00:18:02]  Do you think that Mike Flynn thinks that the 2020 election was stolen?
[00:18:07]  Boy, that seems too obvious a question, so I'm going to go with no.
[00:18:11]  Actually, it's yes, but there's a follow-up question.
[00:18:14]  Well, that's not fair.
[00:18:16]  He thinks the 2016 election was stolen.
[00:18:21]  I'm going to go with yes.
[00:18:22]  Yep, you got that right.
[00:18:23]  In 2016, I believe...
[00:18:26]  Based on what we've learned in the last nine months, ten months, that I believe that there was massive fraud conducted in the 2016 election.
[00:18:35]  They just didn't have the mail-in ballots.
[00:18:37]  So they used the machines to...
[00:18:40]  To manipulate, but Donald Trump in that case ran, you know, they, I mean, essentially ran the tables, and he outdid the algorithms, you know, this word that everybody's learned, the algorithms of these machines, and he beat the odds, and he became president, and then for four years they tried to take him out.
[00:18:55]  They tried to cut him off at the knees every single day, and that story is still being told.
[00:19:02]  And so what they decided, and I think that they decided this right after the 2016 election, they said this is never going to happen again.
[00:19:09]  We're never going to have another election that we're not going to control the outcome of.
[00:19:16]  Kick in COVID, right?
[00:19:18]  Bring in COVID.
[00:19:19]  Bring in the COVID control mechanisms.
[00:19:22]  And very, very smart.
[00:19:24]  They did it in a very masterful way.
[00:19:26]  I give them a lot of credit.
[00:19:27]  It's like military strategy at its finest.
[00:19:30]  And what they did was they used the COVID control mechanisms to bring in the whole mail-in ballot, right?
[00:19:37]  There's so much fraud in mail-in ballot.
[00:19:39]  So yeah, we got this whole plan.
[00:19:42]  Yeah.
[00:19:43]  Very elaborate.
[00:19:44]  Oh, of course.
[00:19:45]  So, the 2016 election was stolen, but Trump did so well that he overrode the voter fraud, which is...
[00:19:52]  That's Alex's narrative.
[00:19:54]  That's what he says.
[00:19:55]  Right, right, right, right.
[00:19:55]  And then, because they're like, fuck, he's too good.
[00:19:59]  We didn't consider this when we were rigging the election.
[00:20:03]  We didn't consider that it would be possible that someone could be so popular that they would overcome all efforts to take him down and...
[00:20:13]  So we have to get COVID.
[00:20:15]  I think I would say that if you've started invalidating even the elections you've won, your argument is, let's never hold elections again.
[00:20:24]  Well, that's kind of what Flynn ends up getting towards in this interview as well, because he's talking about the youngkin.
[00:20:33]  Yeah.
[00:20:34]  In Virginia.
[00:20:35]  And he's basically saying that that was the same thing.
[00:20:38]  Yeah, of course.
[00:20:39]  They were trying to steal it.
[00:20:40]  Right, right, right, right.
[00:20:41]  Even if we win, it's stolen.
[00:20:43]  Yes.
[00:20:43]  This is not a good path for us to go down.
[00:20:47]  There's never a win.
[00:20:48]  No.
[00:20:48]  Oh, boy.
[00:20:49]  No.
[00:20:49]  So, 17 minutes into this interview, and it's probably 35 minutes long all day, you know, all things considered.
[00:20:57]  Sure.
[00:20:58]  Alex finally asks, what can we do to fight back?
[00:21:02]  So maybe this is the battle plan.
[00:21:04]  Okay, here we go.
[00:21:05]  And Flynn's response might be a little cliche.
[00:21:09]  What are some basic things the American people can do and that Congress and the states and the legislatures and some of the good senators we have can do to get past the intimidation when we're told don't investigate, don't call for election security, don't call for election integrity.

=== Courage Is A Decision (06:32) ===

[00:21:24]  What can we do to get people moving in the right direction and make sure they don't steal 2020?
[00:21:28]  Good question.
[00:21:31]  So first of all, courage is a decision.
[00:21:37]  What?
[00:21:38]  Courage is not something that is in your DNA.
[00:21:41]  It might be, but at the end of the day, courage is a decision that you have to make.
[00:21:46]  So you're telling me it's possible that courage might be in your DNA?
[00:21:49]  Explain to me how courage is both a decision and something you were innately born with.
[00:21:54]  I don't know.
[00:21:55]  Okay, that's a good point.
[00:21:55]  But I think it's just a cliche thing that sounds fun.
[00:21:58]  Courage is a choice.
[00:22:00]  Honor is a choice for life decisions.
[00:22:03]  Yeah, you could see that on a poster or something.
[00:22:05]  Sure, yeah, yeah.
[00:22:06]  Hang in there.
[00:22:07]  So basically, his advice almost entirely boils down to like...
[00:22:12]  Think locally.
[00:22:14]  Act globally.
[00:22:15]  It'll have global ramifications, basically.
[00:22:17]  Sure, sure, sure.
[00:22:18]  It's just more cliche nonsense that people have been...
[00:22:21]  There's some truth to it, but it's kind of an idea that a lot of people in organizing have already known for a long time.
[00:22:30]  It's like Jimmy James' The Secret of Management.
[00:22:32]  Yeah.
[00:22:34]  Secret number 56. I'm...
[00:22:37]  With stupid.
[00:22:38]  Yeah.
[00:22:39]  Yeah, it's trite at very least and not groundbreaking at best.
[00:22:44]  No.
[00:22:45]  So one of the ways that you can act locally, though, is you gotta get in there to those school board meetings, man.
[00:22:51]  It's so fun what the right wing is doing at school board meetings.
[00:22:55]  They love it.
[00:22:55]  They eat that up.
[00:22:56]  Why has there been so much...
[00:23:00]  Visibility about school boards and school board activity around this country.
[00:23:03]  You kind of say to yourself, where did these people come from?
[00:23:05]  Why did school boards get like this?
[00:23:07]  Part of it is that we have taken for granted our freedoms and we have not gotten involved.
[00:23:11]  We just sort of take it for granted that, oh, this guy Alex, he's on the school board.
[00:23:17]  And you go, well, where did Alex come from?
[00:23:18]  And who is he?
[00:23:19]  What is his background?
[00:23:20]  And all of a sudden we're finding out that we have these, what I call, democratic socialists that are on these school boards because the...
[00:23:27]  The education system is the way to change the entire culture of a country.
[00:23:31]  And they brag about that.
[00:23:32]  And they brag about it.
[00:23:33]  They write about it.
[00:23:33]  They've been talking about it for decades.
[00:23:35]  This is not something that happened because of Donald Trump.
[00:23:38]  This has been going on for decades.
[00:23:41]  It's not so much that there's something different going on with school boards as it is people have figured out that they can get viral videos really easily by going and yelling at school boards and people just don't stop them.
[00:23:53]  I don't know where Flynn's getting any stats about socialists on school boards, but I understand what he's doing.
[00:23:59]  This is just an attempt to encourage more intimidation and chaos at school board meetings because they're the perfect target for right-wing agitation.
[00:24:06]  School board members probably aren't going to argue with you.
[00:24:09]  You just get to yell whatever you want for a few minutes, then you get to post a video of yourself, which encourages more people who want attention to do the same thing.
[00:24:16]  It's a self-perpetuating cycle.
[00:24:19]  Now, another important thing to point out is that the people who share Alex and Flynn's politics don't have sway in most school boards because they took their freedom for granted.
[00:24:28]  They don't have sway there because they don't care about the actual work that school boards do, and their politics would actually advocate for the elimination of public schools and thus school boards.
[00:24:37]  Yeah.
[00:24:38]  They don't care.
[00:24:39]  Yeah, and I mean, your argument is more like, hey, this teacher wants you to read, and you're like, oh, well, that's a commie socialist right there.
[00:24:47]  People who are drawn to serving on school boards generally aren't power-mad socialists.
[00:24:51]  They're people who care deeply about the community they live in and are often dedicated to educational issues.
[00:24:57]  This is slightly idealistic on my part, and obviously there's some folks who aren't high-minded and totally altruistic, but being on a school board generally means putting in a ton of extra work that's completely thankless and generally poorly compensated.
[00:25:11]  According to the National School Board Association, quote, 75% of small district school board members receive no salary.
[00:25:19]  A lot of school districts have elections for board members, too, so that's an added hurdle that people have to clear in order to get on the board.
[00:25:25]  You weren't paying attention for a long time, and you didn't give a fuck about the fact that you could have voted for somebody else to be on the school board, you dumb dick.
[00:25:34]  I mean, the problem is their argument has to be like...
[00:25:38]  All that time when you weren't paying attention, all this evil stuff was happening.
[00:25:43]  Not like, the reason you didn't have to pay attention is because everything was fine.
[00:25:48]  So now it's like they've been doing this all in secret, despite the fact that if you were to go look at it, you were like, I haven't cared about my school board in my town for 40 fucking years.
[00:25:57]  I didn't go to school here.
[00:25:59]  I don't know any of the kids here.
[00:26:00]  Why would I give a shit about the school board?
[00:26:03]  And then all of a sudden, now it's like, well...
[00:26:05]  I'm some asshole who's doing nothing, but I think I'm going to go bother the school board.
[00:26:10]  Dreadlocked weirdo can go scream at the school board, and he also could have done that ten years ago.
[00:26:17]  Totally.
[00:26:17]  And just no one really...
[00:26:18]  No one would have given a shit.
[00:26:19]  It wasn't that big a deal.
[00:26:20]  And the right-wing media wasn't in this, like, hey, let's go fuck with school boards thing.
[00:26:25]  It wasn't the flavor du jour.
[00:26:27]  Right.
[00:26:27]  Yeah.
[00:26:28]  So, great.
[00:26:29]  Here we go.
[00:26:30]  This is bad.
[00:26:30]  It's good stuff.
[00:26:31]  Flynn.
[00:26:32]  You jerk.
[00:26:33]  Anyway, that's most of his battle plan, is like, fuck with school boards, find out who owns your local paper.
[00:26:40]  Sure, sure.
[00:26:42]  I don't know if this is a battle plan.
[00:26:44]  Let's get five million people together and buy Turner Media.
[00:26:46]  Yeah, let's bike in there.
[00:26:49]  So, I think a lot of what Alex wanted out of this interview is he wanted to get Flynn to say that he was going to run for president.
[00:26:56]  And he doesn't really.
[00:26:57]  You're already traveling around the country working hard to keep people organized and ready and empowering and force multiplying and doing a beautiful job.
[00:27:04]  And I just think that you could accelerate that if you went ahead soon and did declare that you were running an America First party or something, and that if Trump did run and then built up, that you'd swing that support over.
[00:27:15]  I mean, I think that would energize what you're doing even more, but that's my opinion.
[00:27:19]  I know you talked to Trump.
[00:27:20]  I think he would understand that you're not angling to undercut him.
[00:27:23]  But I just can't wait to be part of this with you, General.
[00:27:26]  Thank you so much.
[00:27:27]  Thanks, Alex.
[00:27:28]  Appreciate it.
[00:27:28]  Thanks for having me on the time.
[00:27:31]  So, I like that part of the discussion about, like, come on, you should say you're running for president, is like, you know, Trump wouldn't think you're betraying him.

=== Abortion Chains and Guilt (15:34) ===

[00:27:38]  Right, right, right, right.
[00:27:40]  That's healthy.
[00:27:41]  Hey, hey, listen, we want you to run for president knowing full well you will not win.
[00:27:46]  It's a waste of your time.
[00:27:48]  And, and, at all the end of this, your main job is to give all of the stuff that you have worked hard for to somebody who has literally never worked a day in his life.
[00:27:57]  Sounds good.
[00:27:58]  Yeah!
[00:27:58]  Yeah, that's good stuff.
[00:27:59]  I think I'd rather spend my time yelling at a school board.
[00:28:02]  There we go!
[00:28:04]  So we get back to the episode proper, and Alex has some, you know, he's always right about things.
[00:28:09]  We've heard this.
[00:28:10]  He has some predictions about where we're going with COVID vaccines.
[00:28:14]  Living in denial is only going to let this take place.
[00:28:16]  And so many people go, well, Jones, I'll just take a third, fourth, fifth, sixth shot.
[00:28:20]  We're talking about seven to ten a year.
[00:28:23]  And, of course, that'll be one a day or one an hour.
[00:28:27]  They're going to do this until you just get used to getting injections that make you sterile and die.
[00:28:31]  But the evidence is one shot's super bad, two is incredibly horrible, three is just stratospheric problems.
[00:28:37]  And they're just normalizing it, incremental.
[00:28:40]  It's like putting a frog in the pot and turning the heat up slowly.
[00:28:43]  That's exactly what they're doing.
[00:28:45]  So I guess the conservative estimate that he's making is seven to ten COVID vaccines a year.
[00:28:49]  Sure.
[00:28:50]  And then...
[00:28:51]  Maybe one a day, one an hour.
[00:28:54]  Okay, so that's...
[00:28:54]  This might be a little bit exaggerated.
[00:28:57]  365 multiplied by 24, right?
[00:29:01]  So that's...
[00:29:02]  Do you have to take shots while you're sleeping?
[00:29:04]  Ooh, that's a good question.
[00:29:06]  Yeah.
[00:29:06]  I would assume so.
[00:29:07]  You have to wake up in the middle of the night and give yourself a booster.
[00:29:10]  Right.
[00:29:10]  So then let's say you get a good seven hours of sleep a night.
[00:29:13]  Sure.
[00:29:13]  All right.
[00:29:14]  Then the 365 is only multiplied by 17, right?
[00:29:17]  But you got to take one shot in the middle of the night just to hold you over.
[00:29:20]  So we'll all have to change into like a broken up sleep schedule.
[00:29:25]  Right, right, right.
[00:29:26]  So let's say you sleep three hours at a time.
[00:29:28]  Let's call that 19 shots because you got one before you go to bed, one when you wake up, and then one to boost.
[00:29:34]  Or possibly the government will mandate that you can only sleep in like 20 minute chunks.
[00:29:39]  Sure.
[00:29:40]  Like that Da Vinci sleep cycle.
[00:29:41]  That would be fun.
[00:29:42]  Or, and let me throw this at you.
[00:29:44]  Just so you could take a shot every hour.
[00:29:46]  Every room is altered to be like a Indiana Jones booby trap room where if you step on a certain tile, 30 vaccine shots get shot at you from the walls.
[00:29:58]  Or it could be like the hatch in Lost where there's a counter.
[00:30:02]  Clicking down to an hour and you have to take the shot or else the electromagnetic anomaly will go off and crash a plane.
[00:30:09]  Yeah, absolutely.
[00:30:10]  There's going to have to be stakes if you want me to get the shot on time.
[00:30:14]  Stupid.
[00:30:16]  Anyway, he might be fear-mongering a little bit.
[00:30:18]  Oh, you think?
[00:30:19]  Yeah.
[00:30:19]  Okay.
[00:30:20]  So, one of the side characters in the story of Infowars that I think doesn't get enough play, but definitely does come up more than you'd expect, is Alex's wife's tennis partner.
[00:30:30]  Yes!
[00:30:30]  Surprising both how much it comes up and that it comes up at all.
[00:30:35]  We've not heard from this tennis partner in a while, but here's an update.
[00:30:38]  Okay.
[00:30:39]  I mean, hell, this woman was bragging to my wife yesterday how she's going to take her 7- and 10-year-old to get vaccinated yesterday.
[00:30:43]  She was playing tennis with her, and she didn't even warn the lady.
[00:30:46]  She said, well, it's just Darwinistic.
[00:30:47]  She wants to kill her kids.
[00:30:49]  I said, honey, that's terrible.
[00:30:50]  She said, look, she knows who I am.
[00:30:51]  She knows who you are.
[00:30:52]  She shot her mouth off before.
[00:30:53]  She was just rubbing it in.
[00:30:55]  So she wants to brain damage her kids.
[00:30:56]  It's up to her.
[00:30:57]  I don't think she has a right to hurt her children, but that's where we are.
[00:31:00]  We'll be right back.
[00:31:01]  Okay.
[00:31:02]  Got cut off by the break.
[00:31:03]  That's very funny.
[00:31:04]  Yeah.
[00:31:04]  That's very funny.
[00:31:07]  Imagine Alex's wife.
[00:31:08]  I didn't even warn her.
[00:31:12]  She was talking shit.
[00:31:16]  She was just showing off that her husband doesn't run an outlet designed expressly to destroy children.
[00:31:24]  What does it mean to brag about your children getting vaccinated?
[00:31:27]  Oh man, my kids are not gonna die.
[00:31:30]  Ooh, look at your kids.
[00:31:32]  They're gonna die all the time.
[00:31:33]  I think that's a strange phrasing.
[00:31:35]  It is weird.
[00:31:36]  So we're gonna get into a little bit of Alex talking about...
[00:31:39]  How many abortions he's paid for.
[00:31:41]  Okay.
[00:31:42]  Some of this doesn't quite match up with some of the other comments he's made in the past.
[00:31:45]  Sure.
[00:31:46]  Timeline issues certainly come up.
[00:31:48]  That'll happen.
[00:31:50]  But I kind of, after the initial shock of him admitting on air that he's paid for over 10 abortions, since the shock of that, I don't want to talk about that too much, because I don't want to give the appearance that...
[00:32:06]  I would be in any way judgmental of someone making that decision.
[00:32:09]  Yeah, we have no moralization against...
[00:32:11]  Right.
[00:32:12]  And I don't want that to possibly be misconstrued.
[00:32:14]  Sure.
[00:32:15]  In this case, you kind of got to bring it up because of where the conversation goes.
[00:32:20]  Okay.
[00:32:21]  This is a mess, my man.
[00:32:23]  Oh, boy.
[00:32:23]  Some of my first Access TV shows 28 years ago, I explained to people that I was a Christian, but that I wasn't a Bible thumper, and I wasn't judging people, and I explained how the left would control...
[00:32:36]  Women and men that had taken part in abortions by saying, you're a sinner, you're going to hell, you killed a baby, and so they go, no, it's not a baby, screw you, and then they commit and harden their hearts instead of, hey, God will forgive you, you got set up, you got lied to, that was a human life, you know your heart deep down, you know it's true.
[00:32:55]  Just ask God for forgiveness, the Holy Spirit will come into you, and you'll be freed of this weight of what you were involved in.
[00:33:00]  I know, I paid for quite a few abortions, and it literally cursed me, and I...
[00:33:05]  Sought God's face and was repenting, not even about the abortions, just the darkness I was in.
[00:33:10]  And God, literally the Holy Spirit said, you need to say you're sorry to those children you killed, and you need to get on your knees, and you need to ask forgiveness.
[00:33:17]  And I did, and that was taken away from me.
[00:33:19]  And then God said, now here's your mission.
[00:33:21]  I was like 17 years old, and it hit me like a, now I got rid of that curse on you?
[00:33:28]  Now you're going to go to work.
[00:33:29]  And I was like, whoa.
[00:33:31]  Whoa, I just got struck by lightning!
[00:33:33]  Yeah, that timeline doesn't quite work out for me, based on other comments he's made in the past.
[00:33:38]  I mean, wow.
[00:33:40]  I mean, if it's that young, I guess his dad paid for 10 abortions plus.
[00:33:44]  Oh, I think that was already understood.
[00:33:46]  That was already understood?
[00:33:47]  I believe so.
[00:33:48]  Oh, okay.
[00:33:48]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:33:49]  Alright.
[00:33:50]  It seems like his dad doesn't feel too much guilt about it.
[00:33:53]  He's not on the record.
[00:33:55]  So, thinking about this headspace that he's in, you know, he's like, I killed these kids.
[00:34:00]  Oh, no.
[00:34:01]  That leads him to confess to murder again.
[00:34:04]  Oh, okay, good.
[00:34:04]  And that's what happened.
[00:34:06]  They go, oh, he's a hypocrite.
[00:34:08]  He's against abortion.
[00:34:10]  And he admits he's done it.
[00:34:13]  Well, it's like saying you committed a murder, which I did.
[00:34:17]  I'm a murderer.
[00:34:19]  I mean, I didn't just beat my children.
[00:34:21]  I didn't just cut my children up in pieces.
[00:34:22]  I've pounded a few skulls in.
[00:34:25]  What?
[00:34:25]  And the issue is that I've repented of that.
[00:34:29]  And then God said, well, there's going to be a price to pay.
[00:34:32]  Is that the issue?
[00:34:33]  So I expect to be fed through a meat grinder.
[00:34:35]  Well, that's what my children, my little children, I got them chopped up.
[00:34:39]  Vacuum cleaned up.
[00:34:41]  Sold for body parts.
[00:34:43]  I'm a sinner.
[00:34:44]  I repent.
[00:34:45]  I'm a bad person.
[00:34:46]  I'm a killer.
[00:34:48]  But I'll tell you something.
[00:34:49]  God forgave me.
[00:34:51]  So he's trying to give this impression that God has forgiven him and then all the guilt is gone and, you know, all this.
[00:34:58]  But, like, that is absolutely not true.
[00:35:00]  No.
[00:35:01]  He is intensely motivated by some kind of a guilt that he feels about this.
[00:35:06]  I mean, it would be hard to think to yourself after listening to that, oh, repentance gives you...
[00:35:14]  Clear thoughts and calm of mind and free of heart.
[00:35:19]  It allows you to see everything clearly and your motivations are just totally above board.
[00:35:24]  It seems more like, and I'm going to throw this out there, that he is haunted daily by his past and it tears him apart inside, leading him to do and commit terrible things.
[00:35:34]  And exaggerate the sins that he's committed, like I've murdered people.
[00:35:39]  So in a sense, I would argue that repentance doesn't do shit for you at all.
[00:35:43]  If Alex is the embodiment of repentance, I would say that it's a bad thing.
[00:35:49]  It's a bad deal.
[00:35:49]  It's a real bad thing.
[00:35:50]  It's a raw deal.
[00:35:51]  Don't take it.
[00:35:51]  Yeah, but forgiveness is good.
[00:35:53]  It's good to forgive yourself.
[00:35:54]  It is good to forgive yourself.
[00:35:56]  So, I know how sin works, and I know how once you've committed, the devil puts pressure on you and uses the fact that you have a conscience against you to manipulate and control you instead of just going to God and God will wipe it out, ladies and gentlemen.
[00:36:10]  Doesn't mean you're perfect, but those weights are gone.
[00:36:14]  Sure they are.
[00:36:15]  You use the analogy of a Christmas story where his old boss has got all these giant chains and balls on him, all the bad things he did that he's got to carry on his back for eternity.
[00:36:28]  Not a Christmas story.
[00:36:29]  You can feel that weight when you've committed really big crimes and sins.
[00:36:33]  You need to get rid of it.
[00:36:35]  It's a long way back from hell.
[00:36:38]  You don't want to cross that line.
[00:36:41]  Quote Glenn Danzig.
[00:36:45]  What is happening?
[00:36:47]  He's quoted the philosopher Glenn Danzig and Narls Barkley on this episode.
[00:36:51]  What is happening?
[00:36:53]  Okay.
[00:36:54]  It's great.
[00:36:54]  All right.
[00:36:55]  We know what's on his playlist today.
[00:36:57]  So that was A Christmas Carol.
[00:36:58]  Yeah.
[00:36:59]  Alex is talking about Jacob Marley.
[00:37:00]  Indeed.
[00:37:00]  He wasn't his boss.
[00:37:01]  He was his business partner.
[00:37:02]  Indeed.
[00:37:03]  And I believe, if I'm not mistaken...
[00:37:05]  The chains represented his wealth.
[00:37:07]  Yes, correct.
[00:37:08]  The chains represented him being obsessed with business.
[00:37:10]  You indeed got it, yes.
[00:37:12]  The more money he made, the heavier his chains were.
[00:37:15]  It's not really about sins in the way Alex is describing it.
[00:37:19]  It's about specific ones and their ironic punishment.
[00:37:22]  Yep.
[00:37:23]  So, Alex is on one.
[00:37:26]  As you can see, he's rambling about...
[00:37:30]  Killing people and how he has done that in the past.
[00:37:33]  Sure, sure.
[00:37:33]  Which is great.
[00:37:34]  Good start.
[00:37:35]  Sure.
[00:37:35]  Yeah.
[00:37:36]  And so he gets into talking about how the man needed to get him off air because he was given too much truth.
[00:37:42]  I have a few thoughts about this that I want to discuss.
[00:37:46]  Okay, we knew this day was coming.
[00:37:49]  We knew it was going to happen because we had Operation Lockstep and we had Spars 2023, 2025, and we had all our different in-game documents.
[00:37:58]  And we knew that they were going to have a viral scare for disease X. The UN said this three years ago.
[00:38:04]  Rockefeller Foundation said it 12 years ago.
[00:38:08]  That they would bring out the virus, they would scare everybody, they would train everybody to be locked down.
[00:38:13]  They'd bring out a vaccine passport that would then be tied to a global travel passport and an internal passport that would have a carbon tax attached to it.
[00:38:23]  That was in the documents 12 years ago.
[00:38:27]  Right around that same time, China started developing its social credit score and Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com, that now redirects Infowars.
[00:38:37]  At the time, at the time, we're the first to report on all of this.
[00:38:44]  And that's not, again, it's up here saying, oh, aren't we special?
[00:38:48]  No, it's saying, we've done the research, we've been the tip of the spear.
[00:38:53]  That's why the enemy is so upset.
[00:38:55]  That's why they want us off air.
[00:38:56]  I mean, can you imagine them panicking three years ago when I was finally banned on Twitter six months after I was banned everywhere else, and there were videos of millions of views saying, I believe they're about to release a deadly virus to create fear and then have lockdowns and bring in a global ID out of the system.
[00:39:12]  Here's the documents.
[00:39:14]  What do you think they thought when they saw that?
[00:39:17]  They said, get him off now.
[00:39:19]  Shut him up.
[00:39:20]  How the hell does he know all this?
[00:39:22]  Well, you guys brag about it.
[00:39:23]  It's a fun story, but it's not real.
[00:39:26]  It's not accurate at all.
[00:39:27]  All the citations that he made at the beginning were all not real.
[00:39:33]  Operation Lockstep's not a real thing.
[00:39:35]  Nope.
[00:39:35]  Just various documents and scenario exercises that he's completely making shit up about.
[00:39:42]  And this is what I want to get to.
[00:39:45]  I don't think...
[00:39:47]  The idea that Alex has been yelling about them releasing a virus since 1998 Right.
[00:39:55]  Gives him any credibility.
[00:39:56]  No, it gives him so much credibility, he was right.
[00:39:58]  I think it actually works against his credibility.
[00:40:02]  No, no, no.
[00:40:03]  Because I can see your argument.
[00:40:04]  Your argument is if somebody just keeps saying something that might happen, and then when something similar happens, he just takes credit for it.
[00:40:12]  Sure, that sounds suspicious, like maybe he doesn't know anything and he's just saying it.
[00:40:16]  Right, like the way that he constantly talks about a coming economic collapse.
[00:40:20]  Sure, sure.
[00:40:21]  And then 2008, 2009 happens.
[00:40:23]  Summers of rage?
[00:40:24]  So many summers of rage.
[00:40:25]  Yeah.
[00:40:26]  It doesn't, it actually is, it cheapens the prediction.
[00:40:30]  Ah.
[00:40:31]  And if you add that to all of the predictions that he's made that have not come true.
[00:40:35]  Sure.
[00:40:35]  Primarily the globalists nuking American cities.
[00:40:38]  Right.
[00:40:39]  That was a big one that he was pretty obsessed with.
[00:40:40]  Well, Chicago was nuked.
[00:40:41]  Oh, the coming race war.
[00:40:43]  Well, there was that.
[00:40:44]  All of these things that he's been wrong about that you just ignore.
[00:40:48]  He's shit.
[00:40:49]  He's shit at predicting things.
[00:40:51]  Let me throw this at you.
[00:40:52]  Because this conspiracy theory is going to break the case wide open, alright?
[00:40:58]  I'm interested.
[00:40:59]  So, Alex is right about everything.
[00:41:01]  But, the globalists, knowing that he's right, don't do it when he says they're going to do it, over and over and over again, to make him look insane, Dan!
[00:41:10]  But actually, that is what Alex believes.
[00:41:13]  Yeah.
[00:41:14]  Because he's talked about, like, you know, maybe they won't do it because we've talked about it.
[00:41:18]  Exactly.
[00:41:18]  We've publicized their plan, and so now they won't do it.
[00:41:21]  Exactly.
[00:41:22]  I don't know.
[00:41:23]  It's ridiculous.
[00:41:23]  It's so stupid.
[00:41:25]  It's almost painful.
[00:41:27]  It really is.
[00:41:28]  Now, also painful is Alex's deep-seated hatred of women.
[00:41:35]  Yeah.
[00:41:35]  Yeah, that's in there.
[00:41:36]  Boy, listen to this.
[00:41:37]  That's down there.
[00:41:38]  Statistically, women are 10, 20, 30 times, depending on the study, more likely to get in a van with a man that pulls out a knife or a gun and says, get in.
[00:41:47]  Most men will just run or fight because they know it's scarier to get in that van.
[00:41:52]  It's not because the men have a bunch of courage.
[00:41:53]  It's because they're not naive genetically.
[00:41:56]  Men are more programmed to fight and actually look through the options.
[00:42:01]  Women are programmed by their genetics, on average, to try to get along with everybody and try to make people ease back a little bit.
[00:42:09]  So, okay, sir, don't hurt me.
[00:42:11]  Everything's okay.
[00:42:12]  And then she ends up, you know, in a basement torture for two weeks before she's killed.
[00:42:16]  Yikes.
[00:42:17]  You know, you really, really gotta believe that that's an inherently genetic trait.
[00:42:22]  Otherwise, you have to then deal with the fact that we actually live in a society that's oppressed women for so long and so brutally that the just acquiescence seems like an almost natural state of being as opposed to constant and near, I mean, just bananas.
[00:42:38]  Just bananas.
[00:42:39]  You gotta think it's genetic.
[00:42:40]  Otherwise, we need to change something about society, and we can't do that, Dan.
[00:42:44]  We can't do that.
[00:42:45]  Yeah.
[00:42:47]  I'm baffled.
[00:42:49]  I constantly end up in situations where I'm listening to this show, and I'm like, I've listened to hundreds, thousands of hours of his show, and I still am like...

=== Genetic Subservience Debate (07:23) ===

[00:42:59]  I can't believe you believe that.
[00:43:00]  You believe that women are genetically subservient or something.
[00:43:04]  I mean, yeah.
[00:43:06]  Acquiescent.
[00:43:06]  Then, like, what about, let's, and I'm going to throw this one out there, because we could easily bring up examples.
[00:43:12]  You know, you could easily bring up, like, a Greta Thunberg or, like, a Sonia Sotomayor or something along those lines.
[00:43:18]  Maybe someone more in Alex's lane, maybe a Joan of Arc.
[00:43:21]  Totally, totally.
[00:43:22]  You could do that, but that's individuals.
[00:43:24]  That's anecdotal.
[00:43:25]  That's not enough to prove that genetically, maybe...
[00:43:28]  We're not dealing with something.
[00:43:30]  Alex loves anecdotal shit.
[00:43:31]  So let's say there was a time when women weren't allowed to vote, right?
[00:43:36]  And the only way that they could get the vote was if a lot of them got together courageously.
[00:43:41]  Yeah.
[00:43:41]  That wouldn't be possible because genetically they can't do that.
[00:43:44]  Well, Alex would argue that men were the ones who gave women the right to vote.
[00:43:49]  Never mind.
[00:43:50]  Point retracted.
[00:43:51]  Obviously I was wrong about this the whole time.
[00:43:53]  Yeah.
[00:43:54]  So this is pretty gross.
[00:43:56]  Women and children are way more likely to go into Stockholm Syndrome, and maybe that's a survival attribute.
[00:44:02]  Maybe it's best sometimes.
[00:44:03]  I mean, that's why the Romans and every other ancient empire where they would take over an area would kill men above the age of 10 or 11, and they would keep the women and girls, because the women and girls would self-enforce on each other and just instantly convert within a few days to make their children survive.
[00:44:23]  I mean, even if a woman just saw her husband of 20 years cut up and tortured to death, she's going to give those Roman centurions the best blowjob of their life that evening so that they don't kill her children.
[00:44:35]  I'm sorry to have to talk like that, but this is where real men need to come in and go, hey, women, you're under Stockholm Syndrome.
[00:44:42]  Stop wearing the mask.
[00:44:43]  Stop going along with your captors.
[00:44:45]  This is BS.
[00:44:46]  Yikes.
[00:44:47]  There was a look on your face.
[00:44:49]  Maybe halfway through that clip.
[00:44:51]  I think right about at the blowjob point.
[00:44:53]  The blowjob part really got me.
[00:44:54]  That one got me.
[00:44:55]  That one was like, wow!
[00:44:57]  Really gonna do it, huh?
[00:44:59]  Really going for it.
[00:44:59]  I really, really enjoy the, I'm sorry I have to talk like this.
[00:45:03]  Oh, yeah.
[00:45:03]  No, no, no.
[00:45:04]  That's what you should probably say.
[00:45:05]  I would say he could illustrate this point that is inaccurate and dumb, but he could illustrate that point without...
[00:45:12]  The blowjob.
[00:45:13]  You know what's ironic?
[00:45:14]  That's very unnecessary.
[00:45:15]  What's ironic is his description of Stockholm Syndrome in this case works, but almost in the opposite that he's...
[00:45:22]  Like, Stockholm Syndrome actually describes the phenomenon where you're trapped, as the case in Stockholm that it started from, you're trapped with people who are in your socioeconomic status, and then the cops are evil, and you are like, oh, I get it.
[00:45:38]  But in this situation, his way of getting women out of Stockholm Syndrome is to walk up to them, scream, You're in Stockholm Syndrome!
[00:45:46]  Get out of there!
[00:45:47]  Wake up, you idiots!
[00:45:49]  Which would suggest that they should stay where they are with the people who are not screaming at them.
[00:45:56]  Yeah, I do think there's a couple things.
[00:45:58]  First, I don't know if Stockholm Syndrome's even a real thing.
[00:46:02]  It's not.
[00:46:04]  Absolutely not.
[00:46:05]  It describes the phenomena of cops being assholes.
[00:46:08]  Second, Alex seems to be...
[00:46:11]  Saying that women are weak and they are susceptible to the Stockholm Syndrome because they want to give blowjobs to centurions to protect their children.
[00:46:20]  Can't wait.
[00:46:20]  Now, I think that his solution to this is we need to control.
[00:46:27]  We need to aggressively threaten women to do what we want them to do.
[00:46:31]  It does seem like that is his solution.
[00:46:33]  Yeah, I think that's bad.
[00:46:34]  That's probably not.
[00:46:35]  You know, you catch more flies with screaming in their faces that they're lied to.
[00:46:39]  Yep.
[00:46:39]  Yeah.
[00:46:40]  So Alex believes that this is the end, my friend.
[00:46:43]  This is the end of everything, perhaps, because he owes a lot of money soon.
[00:46:49]  It's going to be fast.
[00:46:49]  Yeah.
[00:46:50]  But he likes to bring up this metaphor of, like, you know, we're about to get pulled in a riptide, right?
[00:46:57]  We're about to get sucked underwater.
[00:46:58]  So what you need to do is take a big breath of air.
[00:47:01]  And that's what he's all about.
[00:47:02]  He's all about telling people, get a deep breath in.
[00:47:05]  Sure.
[00:47:06]  Right?
[00:47:06]  Yeah.
[00:47:07]  And there's some bad stuff.
[00:47:08]  Some more predictions of what's to come.
[00:47:10]  Oh, that's not good.
[00:47:11]  And it's my job, before they cut off all the communications, after a staged cyber attack, or a real war they're about to start, to get as many people as informed so they know what's going on.
[00:47:22]  It's kind of like you're out in the ocean, you're getting a riptide, you feel it sucking you under, get a breath, and then don't fight it once it pulls you under.
[00:47:30]  Statistically, it's going to pop you back out in 30 seconds, a minute or two.
[00:47:34]  Just hold your breath, relax, don't fight.
[00:47:36]  You're going to pop right back out, but I'm not saying don't fight them physically if they do this.
[00:47:39]  It's an analogy.
[00:47:40]  They're just like, oh gosh, I'm going to fight this.
[00:47:45]  Okay, that popped me out in five seconds.
[00:47:46]  That wasn't too bad.
[00:47:48]  Lots of people just fling around in it, panic and get the water down their throat.
[00:47:54]  Now, I'm just here telling everybody, get your deep breath.
[00:48:00]  Get your deep breath.
[00:48:02]  It's a deep breath.
[00:48:03]  I mean, they may launch a nuclear attack and say that the Russians did it.
[00:48:06]  I mean, they want us dead.
[00:48:08]  They want us out of the way.
[00:48:09]  They've made the decision.
[00:48:10]  And the fact that they've rolled ahead with this bio-attack means they could do anything.
[00:48:14]  And that's really why the senators aren't fighting them.
[00:48:16]  The senators have got their emergency exit plans during martial law.
[00:48:20]  They've got their underground base cards.
[00:48:22]  And, of course, once they get them in those bases, they're going to kill them all.
[00:48:26]  The whole COG system.
[00:48:28]  This is just the end of everything.
[00:48:29]  And so everybody else can rearrange deck chairs in the Titanic and everybody else can, you know, pretend like, oh, the liberals are just out of control.
[00:48:37]  No.
[00:48:38]  Okay, so maybe there'll be a fake cyber attack.
[00:48:42]  Right.
[00:48:42]  Or maybe a real war.
[00:48:44]  Right.
[00:48:44]  Maybe they'll nuke us.
[00:48:46]  Sure.
[00:48:46]  Again, another nuke prediction.
[00:48:47]  Yeah.
[00:48:47]  And then they'll blame it on Russia.
[00:48:48]  Right.
[00:48:49]  And then they'll get all the senators into their underground bases that they all have access to.
[00:48:54]  Yeah.
[00:48:54]  But it's all just a trap to kill them within their underground bases.
[00:48:57]  Right.
[00:48:58]  To what end, I'm not sure.
[00:49:00]  Is there an end?
[00:49:01]  Goal?
[00:49:02]  Yeah, I think so.
[00:49:03]  And that is because once shit pops off, senators become dukes.
[00:49:07]  Yeah, see, that's what I'm...
[00:49:08]  Dukes and duchesses.
[00:49:08]  They always become dukes and duchesses.
[00:49:10]  Isn't that true?
[00:49:11]  They have to kill them off lest they control parcels of land.
[00:49:15]  I would like insight into the conversation.
[00:49:19]  If we're down to two options, one of which is stage cyber attack and the other is a real war.
[00:49:25]  Right.
[00:49:25]  Who's on the, like, I know we could stage a cyber attack.
[00:49:30]  Be super easy.
[00:49:31]  No one would die.
[00:49:32]  I mean, a few people, because, you know, pacemakers.
[00:49:35]  But we're evil, so we're fine with that.
[00:49:38]  Or we could kill billions in a real war.
[00:49:41]  Which do you want to go with?
[00:49:43]  I feel like that conversation's a lot easier.
[00:49:45]  Well, but you don't understand how evil the globalists are and how much they like to kill people.
[00:49:49]  That's true.
[00:49:50]  They love to kill people, but also are putting a heart attack medication in the vaccine to stop people from having heart attacks when they get it.
[00:49:57]  Okay, great.
[00:49:57]  Whatever.
[00:49:59]  Okay.

=== Why Trust Mainstream Media? (15:38) ===

[00:50:00]  So dumb.
[00:50:00]  All right.
[00:50:01]  So Alex seems pretty mad.
[00:50:05]  I wonder if you can guess what he's mad about.
[00:50:08]  Oh, man.
[00:50:09]  I just don't know.
[00:50:10]  It has to do with the executive branch.
[00:50:14]  Oh, boy.
[00:50:15]  Dan, I'm going to go with the Build Back Better Act.
[00:50:17]  No.
[00:50:18]  Oh, I'm going to go with other legislation that's being proposed.
[00:50:23]  I'm going to go with real consequential and important information.
[00:50:27]  See, I think that your first instinct would be to think that it was that he's mad that Kamala Harris...
[00:50:32]  Would take over for a while while Joe Biden was under.
[00:50:36]  No, no, no, no.
[00:50:37]  I wouldn't think that because that would be...
[00:50:39]  It would require somebody so racist to ignore how meaningless it is.
[00:50:44]  No, no, no.
[00:50:44]  But there's bigger issues.
[00:50:45]  Oh, okay.
[00:50:46]  Pete Buttigieg had a baby.
[00:50:48]  Notice, whether it's the New York Times or CBS News, they all cropped it to not show an American flag.
[00:50:54]  Now, we look at that and go, look what a commie he is.
[00:50:57]  Look what a traitor he is.
[00:50:58]  But you know that every photo is him with just that flag.
[00:51:03]  And why do they do that?
[00:51:05]  Let's talk about Biden.
[00:51:06]  Yeah.
[00:51:07]  Because they're now going to get ready to get rid of him.
[00:51:09]  He's served his usefulness.
[00:51:10]  Now they're like, oh, we've got to have Kamala and Buttigieg.
[00:51:14]  Hey, Buttigieg had a baby.
[00:51:16]  His husband laid in the hospital bed, thought you were so dumb.
[00:51:19]  They put on hospital scrubs and lay in a bed.
[00:51:23]  Look, we had a baby.
[00:51:25]  All part of the brainwashing.
[00:51:27]  It's some kid they got from somebody else.
[00:51:31]  I mean...
[00:51:33]  Oh, here we are with our multi-month-old baby.
[00:51:36]  We just had it.
[00:51:37]  You know, men have babies.
[00:51:39]  All about the gaslighting.
[00:51:40]  All about the mind control.
[00:51:42]  All about the control.
[00:51:43]  Oh, it's okay if Biden steps down because Buttigieg is gay.
[00:51:47]  Oh, my gosh.
[00:51:48]  But he had that on his resume?
[00:51:50]  Oh, my gosh.
[00:51:51]  I mean, can I be vice president?
[00:51:53]  I tell you what, I'm gay too, folks.
[00:51:55]  I need to be vice president now.
[00:51:57]  You know, Tim Cook is to run death camps.
[00:51:58]  Worst in the world.
[00:51:59]  On record.
[00:52:00]  Worst factories in the world.
[00:52:01]  Suicide nets.
[00:52:02]  Forced abortion.
[00:52:03]  16-18 hour work days.
[00:52:05]  Forced drugging of the slaves.
[00:52:07]  People living in containers.
[00:52:09]  But it's alright.
[00:52:10]  Tim Cook is what?
[00:52:12]  What's the answer?
[00:52:13]  G-A-Y.
[00:52:14]  And he wears a black turtleneck.
[00:52:18]  Wow.
[00:52:19]  Ha ha ha ha ha!
[00:52:21]  Woo!
[00:52:22]  So one thing that's important to remember about the context of this clip is that that was not actually Ric Flair.
[00:52:32]  Dating back 15, 17 years even, Alex has a conspiracy theory that the Child Protective Service is trying to take away straight people's children to give them to gay couples.
[00:52:43]  So when you hear him talk about it, he's...
[00:52:46]  Very against gay adoption.
[00:52:49]  Yes, yeah, yeah.
[00:52:50]  And so this is painfully homophobic.
[00:52:53]  Oh, it's incredibly homophobic.
[00:52:55]  The other thing I want to bring up here is, does Alex really think that the reason that the working conditions in Apple factories isn't more tightly regulated is because Tim Cook is gay?
[00:53:05]  Like, that's dumb?
[00:53:07]  And deeply homophobic, too.
[00:53:09]  It's obviously a function of industry more than it is...
[00:53:13]  No, no, no, no.
[00:53:14]  Because we can't regulate capitalism.
[00:53:15]  Because I feel like you're saying that this might be a result of unregulated capitalism.
[00:53:21]  Right.
[00:53:21]  And I think you're wrong.
[00:53:22]  This is the...
[00:53:25]  It's because gay people can get adoptions.
[00:53:28]  And they can get away with anything.
[00:53:30]  Does he think that...
[00:53:31]  We think that they are telling us they actually had a baby.
[00:53:36]  I don't know.
[00:53:37]  Because it sounded like he thinks that they have brainwashed us into us thinking, wow, they really had a baby.
[00:53:44]  I don't know.
[00:53:45]  Because a man had a baby.
[00:53:46]  I don't know.
[00:53:47]  Because it sounds like that's what he's saying.
[00:53:48]  I think it's close, but I don't know, man.
[00:53:52]  I just think he's really angry at gay people.
[00:53:54]  I mean, yes, but that's the problem.
[00:53:58]  All of what he said, just boil it down to just be like, I hate gay people.
[00:54:03]  Because otherwise it sounds like you're mad at a scattershot.
[00:54:06]  Nonsense barrage.
[00:54:07]  Yeah.
[00:54:08]  I mean, what he's saying doesn't make sense if you believe him to be tolerant.
[00:54:13]  Yes, exactly.
[00:54:13]  It all makes sense if you just recognize that he's a bigot.
[00:54:17]  Oh, you're a massive bigot.
[00:54:18]  Okay.
[00:54:19]  Gotcha.
[00:54:19]  So Alex has a guy back on the show by the name of Steve Kirsch.
[00:54:23]  I don't know if you remember this guy.
[00:54:25]  He's an inventor.
[00:54:26]  He invented Infoseek, the early search engine.
[00:54:31]  Also is...
[00:54:33]  Entirely convinced that Gavin Newsom was paralyzed by a vaccine.
[00:54:37]  He was.
[00:54:37]  We talked to him about it.
[00:54:38]  He's doubling down on this.
[00:54:41]  So Alex is going to have him back on to do that.
[00:54:43]  Okay, good.
[00:54:43]  Coming up, we've got some of the videos of Newsom and his face looking partially paralyzed as sources have said, but that usually goes away in about two weeks.
[00:54:51]  And also that his children aren't vaccinated.
[00:54:54]  Steve Kerr has written about that as well on his Substack account.
[00:54:57]  But I wanted to get just all this cardiac news and information.
[00:55:02]  Coming out first, but yeah, that photo there, you can really see that he does look paralyzed.
[00:55:07]  It has the dimple on the other side, not on that side.
[00:55:11]  Really dramatic.
[00:55:12]  So there was a video going around that purported to show one side of Gavin Newsom's face drooping, thus proving that the vaccine gave him like Bell's palsy.
[00:55:19]  Yeah, they got him.
[00:55:20]  Video was edited.
[00:55:21]  It was just manipulated by someone who credits themselves as a digital artist.
[00:55:25]  Oh, good!
[00:55:25]  It's fake.
[00:55:26]  The real version, before editing, is widely available even on Newsom's own Twitter page.
[00:55:30]  Yeah.
[00:55:31]  In terms of the cardiac stuff that they're talking about, it's all just stuff that he's misrepresenting VAERS data on.
[00:55:37]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:55:37]  It's not even worth responding to again.
[00:55:42]  But this is kind of fun.
[00:55:44]  Steve is sad.
[00:55:45]  Oh, no.
[00:55:45]  No one will debate him.
[00:55:46]  Oh, no.
[00:55:47]  This is a complete disaster.
[00:55:49]  These vaccines should not be given to anyone under any circumstances, any age, any comorbidity.
[00:55:56]  The evidence just doesn't support that.
[00:55:58]  And nobody seems to want to debate me on this.
[00:56:01]  I have tried to debate anyone in the medical community.
[00:56:04]  I'll do it.
[00:56:05]  Because they accused me of spreading misinformation.
[00:56:08]  But nobody wants to debate me.
[00:56:09]  That's the best way to silence me is to debate me.
[00:56:11]  Nobody in mainstream academia, nobody in the CDC, nobody in the FDA, they all want to just ignore everything I'm saying because they don't want to confront what's going on.
[00:56:25]  Unfortunately, you're not in any of those groups that Steve is desiring to.
[00:56:30]  But I would say that the reason I don't want to debate him is because he's a weirdo.
[00:56:34]  Yeah.
[00:56:35]  He's someone you don't want to be seen with in public, maybe.
[00:56:39]  You don't want to get into the mud with this kind of idiot.
[00:56:43]  I wouldn't do it.
[00:56:44]  No.
[00:56:44]  I mean, I would do it, but if I was one of them, I wouldn't do it.
[00:56:48]  Totally.
[00:56:49]  That's why I'm not one of them.
[00:56:50]  Yes, and why you'd be open to debate.
[00:56:52]  Exactly.
[00:56:54]  Steve and Alex are talking about the vaccine, and they're saying it's going to be such a disaster for the medical community, and no one will ever trust them again, right?
[00:57:06]  And the mainstream media, no one will ever trust them.
[00:57:08]  But they realize we've had the vaccine for months, months and months, and plenty of people are not dead.
[00:57:14]  That's true.
[00:57:15]  Yeah.
[00:57:15]  But I want to focus on this part of this.
[00:57:18]  Oh, okay.
[00:57:18]  So they're talking about, like, the trust is going to be completely gone.
[00:57:22]  No one's going to trust the medical community or the mainstream media ever again because of the whole charade of the vaccines, right?
[00:57:30]  Sure.
[00:57:30]  I don't understand why they're bringing that up.
[00:57:34]  They don't want people to trust the mainstream media.
[00:57:38]  That's exactly what they want.
[00:57:44]  That's a good point.
[00:57:45]  It's really dumb for them to be all like, oh no, people won't believe you anymore.
[00:57:50]  Exactly the outcome I rely on to make money.
[00:57:55]  It's fucking stupid listening to this nonsense.
[00:57:58]  I saw one FDA board member a few months ago saying, in a quote, of course they got off the board, saying you're going to destroy belief and the credibility of vaccines for generations.
[00:58:08]  I mean, if you actually wanted to destroy medicine, you'd act like this.
[00:58:12]  Oh, yeah, absolutely.
[00:58:14]  And that's exactly what they're doing.
[00:58:15]  But it's not just in vaccines.
[00:58:17]  People are not going to believe their doctors anymore.
[00:58:21]  Right?
[00:58:21]  That's what's going to come out of this.
[00:58:23]  They're not going to believe the doctors.
[00:58:24]  They're not going to believe anything that Congress says.
[00:58:26]  They're not going to believe anything that the mainstream media says.
[00:58:29]  And they're not going to believe any of the three letter agencies, the FDA, the CDC, and the NIH.
[00:58:34]  That's what's going to come out of this.
[00:58:36]  Those are all positive outcomes for Alex.
[00:58:38]  That's exactly what he's always wanted, because he said you should never trust them in the first place.
[00:58:43]  Exactly, and you shouldn't trust doctors.
[00:58:44]  You should get the zinc and iodine and shit.
[00:58:47]  You get the supplements, you'll be fine.
[00:58:48]  Just take vitamins.
[00:58:49]  Yeah, I was going to say.
[00:58:50]  All of this is exactly what Alex would want, and it's a little weird.
[00:58:56]  I just...
[00:58:57]  Here's my...
[00:58:58]  I want an itemized list of what...
[00:59:00]  They do trust doctors on now.
[00:59:02]  Like, clearly they trust them on, like, cancer, right?
[00:59:06]  No.
[00:59:07]  Just rub some dirt on it.
[00:59:09]  You're fine.
[00:59:10]  Or, like, I mean, I don't know.
[00:59:12]  There are diseases and shit that are unquestioned by these people, right?
[00:59:16]  Maybe a broken arm?
[00:59:18]  Yeah, a broken arm!
[00:59:19]  Somebody will set their broken arm for him, right?
[00:59:21]  Yeah, the splint.
[00:59:22]  But why is that okay and not...
[00:59:25]  You know, it's like it's all or nothing if you think that the medical establishment is murdering you.
[00:59:30]  You can't be like, well, I mean, if they give me the vaccine, they'll murder me.
[00:59:33]  But obviously, if I broke my leg, I need to go get my leg set.
[00:59:37]  Yeah, you think they're not creative enough to figure out a way to kill you with a broken leg.
[00:59:40]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:59:41]  You can get a...
[00:59:42]  Oh, we got to give you this painkiller.
[00:59:43]  And then you're dead.
[00:59:44]  These doctors are evil and they've been doing it for a long time.
[00:59:47]  They can kill you with a toenail problem.
[00:59:49]  Yeah, you should never go to the hospital for anything.
[00:59:53]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:59:54]  I just think it's a little silly for them to pretend that they have any investment at all in people having faith or trust in authoritative sources, government agencies.
[01:00:04]  Their business is to erode that trust.
[01:00:07]  No, Dan, there's nothing they want more than to be rendered obsolete by a mainstream media.
[01:00:13]  Performing exactly their duties.
[01:00:15]  They want to live in a society where everyone is comfortable and there's no bullshit flying around that people are profiting off of heavily.
[01:00:24]  They just want honesty.
[01:00:25]  Yep.
[01:00:26]  So, speaking of bullshit, here's Steve disqualifying himself as someone you should listen to.
[01:00:31]  How do you look at the data on this?
[01:00:33]  Because I'm not as technical as you.
[01:00:34]  I just read all these articles and studies.
[01:00:37]  Where people, six months after the Pfizer shot, especially if they take the booster, they then get negative immunity, meaning before the shot they had better immunity than after they had it six months later.
[01:00:47]  That doesn't sound like a very good product to me.
[01:00:49]  Yeah, if you look on the exposed...
[01:00:54]  They have some graphs.
[01:00:55]  They did some really nice graphs showing vaccine efficacy waning.
[01:00:58]  So you get the vaccine and it appears to work for just a little while and then it goes down to zero and then it goes negative, which means you're more likely to be infected.
[01:01:07]  If you get the vaccine.
[01:01:09]  Amazing.
[01:01:10]  We talked about this on a previous episode.
[01:01:12]  This is a doctored set of information.
[01:01:15]  So if he's somebody who would find that to be compelling and not look into it a little bit further, not recognize that this information has been manipulated very transparently, I don't think I'm going to trust him on much.
[01:01:29]  I mean, if you give me any graph...
[01:01:32]  That clearly has whiteout on it because there's a section you didn't want me to see.
[01:01:37]  Wait, this is crossed out.
[01:01:38]  What is that?
[01:01:39]  Exactly!
[01:01:40]  You didn't even hide it!
[01:01:41]  You just used a fucking permanent marker.
[01:01:44]  Then you're done!
[01:01:45]  You don't ever get to get listened to again.
[01:01:48]  Yeah, and among the many sins of that expose article is that the person who put it together did take out lines of data that didn't work for his argument.
[01:02:01]  That is disqualifying.
[01:02:03]  It would be...
[01:02:04]  It would be like if somebody asked you for some accounting information and you didn't want them to know the full accounting information, so you took the, at random, the QuickBooks file, and then gave it to another person to talk to the information.
[01:02:22]  So, if you're not convinced by this expose thing, which you shouldn't be, and you're not convinced by the fake video of Gavin Newsom's face...
[01:02:31]  Super not convinced.
[01:02:33]  Maybe.
[01:02:33]  You will be convinced by Steve having 17 pieces of details and information.
[01:02:40]  Let's start getting into Newsom.
[01:02:41]  You read a big article about that saying Newsom's lying about his vaccine injury, and here you can prove it.
[01:02:46]  Yeah, so look, I've got 17 different sources.
[01:02:50]  There are 17 different pieces of evidence, and they're all consistent with the hypothesis that Gavin Newsom is vaccine injured.
[01:02:58]  So I went to his substack, which I should say he's heavily promoting on this appearance.
[01:03:03]  Oh, yeah, I imagine so.
[01:03:04]  I think that's the game.
[01:03:06]  Yeah.
[01:03:07]  But I found his article.
[01:03:08]  Gavin Newsom is lying about his vaccine injury.
[01:03:11]  Okay.
[01:03:11]  And here he has his list of points.
[01:03:14]  17. No, it's grown to 19. What, does he only do prime numbers?
[01:03:18]  Must.
[01:03:19]  Okay.
[01:03:19]  So I think it was probably like, uh-oh, this is going to get QAnon excited.
[01:03:22]  It's 17. Oh, shit.
[01:03:24]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:03:24]  Better add a few more.
[01:03:25]  So here's the first one.
[01:03:27]  Kids were in school on November 1st through 3rd during the climate meeting when he was supposed to be there.
[01:03:32]  So what was his excuse for not attending by Zoom?
[01:03:35]  It couldn't be to be a good dad since his kids weren't home.
[01:03:38]  So what was it?
[01:03:39]  Why didn't he explain it on November 1st?
[01:03:42]  Why do we still not know?
[01:03:43]  How come none of the fact checkers ask this question?
[01:03:46]  Could it be the fact checkers are biased?
[01:03:49]  Ooh.
[01:03:50]  Or...
[01:03:51]  Could it be that you never looked for the answers to that question?
[01:03:54]  I don't know.
[01:03:54]  So here's number three.
[01:03:58]  So one of his pieces of evidence is...
[01:04:08]  A second-hand account of third-hand information.
[01:04:11]  From Alex, and now he's using this article to make an argument on Alex's show that relies on evidence that he got from Alex.
[01:04:18]  You know, that Ouroboros of far-right beliefs are just impenetrable.
[01:04:23]  Quote, this is number eight, quote, Gavin had his bad side away from the camera when he appeared.
[01:04:29]  The lighting was poor and the focus was bad, and the shots were long.
[01:04:33]  Here's number nine.
[01:04:34]  Quote, we never saw him walk on camera during his first public appearance after the recovery period.
[01:04:40]  Okay.
[01:04:41]  Here's number 12. Quote, multiple Twitter postings suggested Bell's palsy or Guillain-Barre syndrome.
[01:04:47]  Just multiple Twitter posts suggested that.
[01:04:49]  I don't know what that means.
[01:04:50]  Oh, it just means multiple Twitter posts suggested that.
[01:04:52]  That's a piece of evidence.
[01:04:54]  Sure.
[01:04:54]  Here's number 18. Quote, clearly I'm not the only one with suspicions here.
[01:04:59]  And then there's a hyperlink to check out this meme page.
[01:05:04]  I want to see that episode of Columbo where he's like, just one more thing.
[01:05:09]  Check out this meme page.
[01:05:10]  Have you seen this meme page?
[01:05:13]  Here's the last one.
[01:05:14]  There's some people who tweeted saying you did it.
[01:05:17]  Here's the last one on his list.
[01:05:19]  It's over 19. Quote, I have more, but it would compromise sources.

=== A Million Dollar Bet (07:25) ===

[01:05:23]  What?
[01:05:23]  No, that's not a detail!
[01:05:25]  No, it's the absence of a detail.
[01:05:27]  It's an explanation for why you don't have a detail.
[01:05:31]  That's not fair.
[01:05:32]  No, this is a really stupid list.
[01:05:34]  Oh, man.
[01:05:34]  I want to go back to all those 1920s drawing room.
[01:05:38]  Now we get all the suspects together and solve this together in the same room around the dinner table.
[01:05:43]  I want that, but with this level of information.
[01:05:47]  I want it to be like, and there, he's Steely Dan over there.
[01:05:51]  He jumped upside, and then we saw somebody from another town over who met a friend of his over there who said that maybe one time you did it.
[01:05:59]  Yeah.
[01:05:59]  I think that Steve Kirsch is more Hastings than Poirot.
[01:06:03]  Yeah, let's go that way.
[01:06:05]  He does not have his little gray cells working.
[01:06:08]  This is bad.
[01:06:10]  Oh, boy.
[01:06:10]  So, you don't have to believe Steve.
[01:06:12]  And I don't.
[01:06:14]  But he has another reason why he's still right.
[01:06:17]  Okay.
[01:06:18]  I'm now at the stage where I'm willing to risk some money to prove a point.
[01:06:23]  All right.
[01:06:23]  So, I'm now willing to risk, as of yesterday...
[01:06:28]  I just put out an offer to say, Gavin, I'm willing to bet you a million dollars that you're a liar.
[01:06:33]  So I'm risking a million dollars.
[01:06:35]  You don't have to believe me at all in my analysis in what the evidence showed.
[01:06:40]  All you have to believe is that there's some millionaire who is willing to risk a million dollars that he's right.
[01:06:46]  So he probably thinks he's right.
[01:06:49]  And I can guarantee you, Gavin Newsom is not going to take my bet.
[01:06:53]  No way.
[01:06:54]  No shit.
[01:06:57]  Wow.
[01:06:58]  What a great bet.
[01:06:59]  The governor of California is not going to dignify this bullshit.
[01:07:02]  Yeah, I'm going to take all million dollar bets from now on.
[01:07:06]  Anybody want to bet me anything for a million dollars?
[01:07:09]  This was on November 16th, he's saying this.
[01:07:11]  This got bumped up to five million.
[01:07:14]  And then on November 18th, this is an update on his sub stack.
[01:07:17]  Quote, I've raised my offer to name your price in a private email to Jennifer Newsom.
[01:07:23]  No response so far.
[01:07:25]  Wow.
[01:07:26]  Unlimited money.
[01:07:29]  We'd make the Guinness Book of World Records for highest price ever paid for a blank piece of paper.
[01:07:34]  Oh my god.
[01:07:35]  He sent Kevin Newsom's wife an email.
[01:07:38]  He's harassing family members now and being like, I'll give you any amount of money.
[01:07:44]  Wow, you know what?
[01:07:45]  Debate me!
[01:07:46]  In order to disbelieve this, Dan, you would have to have an operating premise.
[01:07:52]  With, I mean, I'm sure no evidence, that rich people are willing to blow a lot of money on stupid ideas.
[01:07:58]  You would have to believe something so insane that no one could ever believe that a rich person would blow their money on a stupid thing.
[01:08:08]  Never!
[01:08:09]  Oh, boy.
[01:08:10]  So, we have one last clip here, and it's Steve explaining exactly how this bet would go.
[01:08:16]  And as you're listening to this, imagine...
[01:08:21]  Imagine a world where a sitting governor would engage with this bullshit.
[01:08:25]  These are the steps that are going to, if the bed is taken, this is how it will play out.
[01:08:31]  Just imagine a governor of California deciding, I'm going to get involved with this.
[01:08:38]  We're getting some great fanfic.
[01:08:39]  That's what I'm hearing.
[01:08:40]  This is so dumb.
[01:08:42]  I'm offering him a million dollars.
[01:08:44]  All he has to do is give me a piece of paper that lists all the doctors that he talked to.
[01:08:50]  For the purposes of discussing vaccine injury, from the time that he got vaccinated to 21 days later.
[01:08:58]  I don't want to know anything else.
[01:09:00]  That's it.
[01:09:01]  Just the list of doctors.
[01:09:02]  And on that piece of paper is the permission that he grants to those doctors, and he orders those doctors to discuss with me any conversations relating to vaccine injury.
[01:09:14]  Now, if Gavin Newsom is telling the truth, He'll give me a blank sheet of paper, and I will give him a check for a million dollars.
[01:09:25]  Now, to me, that's a deal that most people shouldn't refuse.
[01:09:30]  He's revealing nothing about any of his personal medical information.
[01:09:35]  The piece of paper is blank, and he gets a check for a million dollars.
[01:09:40]  And you're a well-known tech guy.
[01:09:43]  You've got plenty of money.
[01:09:44]  So what's stopping him?
[01:09:47]  Well, what's stopping him is he's not telling the truth.
[01:09:50]  And that's why he won't accept my bet, because if he's telling the truth, he's going to hand me a piece of paper that is not blank.
[01:09:59]  And if the piece of paper isn't blank, you know immediately that he lied to people.
[01:10:05]  So basically, not engaging with this stupid bet is proof for Steve that he's right.
[01:10:11]  That's ridiculous.
[01:10:17]  Even talk to this guy.
[01:10:19]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:10:19]  It's because what he's doing is essentially engaging in blackmail, but without leverage.
[01:10:24]  Yep.
[01:10:26]  Because if you do give him a blank piece of paper...
[01:10:30]  That's not going to be the end of it.
[01:10:31]  No!
[01:10:32]  In the same way that if you give in to the demands of a blackmailer, they're going to continue the blackmailing relationship.
[01:10:38]  Yeah, it's not like we're done.
[01:10:40]  Right.
[01:10:40]  This is going to be a thing where, oh, you've given me a blank piece of paper, but what if I were to tell you I know you saw a doctor?
[01:10:47]  It's fucking stupid.
[01:10:49]  It's pointless to engage with this nonsense, but it plays.
[01:10:53]  For PR stuff in the right-wing media.
[01:10:55]  You can say, oh, if his conscience was clean, you'd have no problem.
[01:11:00]  I'd give him a million dollars!
[01:11:02]  Sure, sure, sure.
[01:11:03]  What's fun about that is that even a reasonable conservative who buys into this as being a good idea would never take that bet.
[01:11:12]  It's a stupid person who's like...
[01:11:14]  Oh, you're gonna pay up.
[01:11:16]  One, you're not.
[01:11:17]  And two, there's no strings attached to this.
[01:11:20]  Sure.
[01:11:20]  Sure, you fucking liar.
[01:11:23]  It's so weird that they'll believe it in the abstract, but in the personal, they would never believe that.
[01:11:29]  Even best case scenario, it's still not good.
[01:11:33]  Like, okay, you got a million dollars, but you had to publicly engage and justify and sort of give credibility to someone like Steve as being worth...
[01:11:44]  Your time and engagement.
[01:11:46]  Oh yeah.
[01:11:46]  And that alone is...
[01:11:48]  Publicity that Steve couldn't buy for his sub-stack.
[01:11:51]  Yeah, which is why he would never accept it from somebody who doesn't have that to offer him, you know?
[01:11:57]  He's never going to accept this bet from somebody from the CDC or the FDA, because why would he?
[01:12:03]  They're not going to give him the juice.
[01:12:05]  But if it's a Newsom, or if it's somebody on TV, or if it's somebody like that, who he can turn it into a spectacle around, then of course, yeah, that's what he's going to do, and he's not going to pay up on that fucking back!
[01:12:15]  Probably not.
[01:12:16]  But maybe!
[01:12:17]  I mean, he's conceivably quite rich.
[01:12:19]  Yeah, and he's also insane, clearly.
[01:12:21]  It does seem that way.
[01:12:22]  So this episode was gross in a number of ways.
[01:12:27]  No, it's great!
[01:12:27]  It's great!
[01:12:28]  I think, you know, you see a lot of pretty explicit chauvinism, homophobia.

=== Why People Think He Sucks (00:49) ===

[01:12:36]  Oh boy.
[01:12:37]  Just outright bigotry all over the place.
[01:12:40]  Just really ticking those boxes.
[01:12:42]  Yeah.
[01:12:43]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:12:45]  And it sucks.
[01:12:46]  It's hard to believe why people want him off the air, Dan.
[01:12:48]  Yeah.
[01:12:49]  It's hard to understand why people would be like, you suck.
[01:12:53]  You gotta go.
[01:12:54]  You suck.
[01:12:55]  Go away.
[01:12:56]  Uh-huh.
[01:12:57]  Anyway, Jordan, we'll be back.
[01:12:59]  Indeed we will.
[01:12:59]  For another episode in the near future.
[01:13:01]  But until then, we have a website.
[01:13:03]  We do.
[01:13:03]  It's knowledgefight.com.
[01:13:04]  Yes.
[01:13:04]  We are also on Twitter.
[01:13:06]  We are on Twitter.
[01:13:07]  It's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed, Jordan.
[01:13:09]  Yep.
[01:13:09]  We'll be back.
[01:13:10]  But until then, I'm Neo.
[01:13:11]  I'm Leo.
[01:13:12]  I'm DZX Clark.
[01:13:13]  I'm Daryl Rundis.
[01:13:14]  And now...
[01:13:14]  Here comes the sex robots.
[01:13:16]  Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
[01:13:17]  Thanks for holding.
[01:13:20]  Hello, Alex.
[01:13:21]  I'm a first-time caller.
[01:13:21]  I'm a huge fan.
[01:13:22]  I love your work.