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#612: October 31, 2021

#612: October 31, 2021 dissects Alex Jones’ election fraud claims—like Georgia’s pipe burst and ballot "consent decrees"—debunked as baseless, while exposing his misrepresentation of the Lincoln Project’s tiki-torch stunt as a Democratic false flag. Jones ties AT&T’s racial justice training to a "white people are the problem" narrative, ignoring context like Chicago Tribune op-eds, and pivots to Tucker Carlson’s Fox Nation series, framing it as a "plot against America" akin to Nazi propaganda. His shifting alliances—from China/Russia as villains to allies—undermine credibility, yet his "globalist depopulation" conspiracy persists, blending racism with unproven theories. The episode reveals how fringe narratives exploit outrage cycles, normalizing violence under the guise of truth. [Automatically generated summary]

Participants
Main
a
alex jones
infowars 25:29
d
dan friesen
52:58
j
jordan holmes
23:33
Appearances
j
jim acosta
cnn 01:19
Clips
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tucker carlson
dailycaller 00:15
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
I have great respect for knowledge fight.
Knowledge fight.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys.
Shang B are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
alex jones
I need money.
Andy and Pam.
unidentified
Andy and Pandy.
alex jones
Stop it.
Andy and Pam.
Andy in Kansas.
Andy.
unidentified
Andy.
alex jones
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for watching.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a fish pin color.
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your room.
Knowledge fight.
Knowledgefight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
alex jones
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes.
Like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot?
dan friesen
My bright spot today, Jordan, is I started watching finally.
I started watching Better Call Saul.
jordan holmes
Ah, yes.
dan friesen
And I've figured out why people like it.
It's good.
jordan holmes
It's very good.
Yep.
dan friesen
That's basically it.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
Yeah, very enjoyable.
A little different than I expected, honestly, even from the hype that people had surrounding it.
But I've enjoyed it in a different way than I expected.
And well done, folks.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Made a nice show.
jordan holmes
Plus one.
You know what's great about Better Call Saul is it's deeply funny in certain situations.
Yeah.
It's so willing to lean into how funny that it can be.
And then in the next, it can totally change the tone and you're still in.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
There's a lot of like emotional feeling.
There's sentiment and then also good comedy.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Well done.
It's a rare instance, I think, where something has actually lived up to or exceeded the hype that I had in my head for a thing.
Like a lot of times people tell me to watch something.
I'll put it off and then I'll watch it and I'll be like, well, it was all right.
Or like, it sucks.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's a goddamn squid game.
jordan holmes
Like Mortal Kombat.
dan friesen
No one told me to watch that.
jordan holmes
No, that was all you.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I told myself to watch that.
Yeah, but it's always exciting when something's like, ah, ha ha, I get it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway, what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot, Dan, is my partner and I, we went to see Sylvan Eso at the Aragon ballroom over there.
Fantastic.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
It was amazing.
They were great.
Awesome.
dan friesen
Finally, a music act that I've heard of that you bring up.
jordan holmes
But you remember I showed you that the clip of them doing the live performance.
dan friesen
I believe so.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, where they've got the band all together in a circle playing.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I remember that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this concert was really, really great, but it also helped me remember that I'm not just an old crank.
Like, I like analog music.
You know, like, I'm not like that.
It's better with a live band.
You know, their live show touring is the two of them, the producer and the incredibly talented singer.
And it's great.
Their music is really good, but when you've got a couple of drummers, when you've got guitarists, when you've got real musical instruments, it's just better.
dan friesen
I think that's the whole premise of the roots.
jordan holmes
I know.
It's just better.
It's so good.
dan friesen
That's great.
I'm glad you had a good time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we are talking about finally getting back into the present.
I would say that this is a sneaky snake episode since it's Wednesday.
Technically, I think the sneaky snake was Monday when we had a spooktack.
jordan holmes
It was a spooktacular episode.
dan friesen
A sneaky sneak tacular.
jordan holmes
A snooktacular.
unidentified
Sneaky snectacular.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But today you are getting back to the present.
We're looking at October 31st, Halloween 2021.
jordan holmes
I got lost today.
I was too busy going, ooh.
dan friesen
I tricked you with the false start of Halloween.
jordan holmes
You got me.
dan friesen
Halloween was like an eyebrow face in.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then you drained the three after I fell down and broke my ankles.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is Sunday's show, Halloween.
It stinks.
Spoilers.
jordan holmes
All right.
Okay.
All right.
How are we doing?
dan friesen
There's some interesting stuff to talk about and all that, but if I had to rate it in terms of Alex's shows, it's not in the top tier.
jordan holmes
Not in the top tier.
dan friesen
No.
And we'll get down to business on that.
But first, Jordan, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So, first, Wyatt, thank you so much, Jurano Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Thanks, Wyatt.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Jordan, thank you so much.
Not you.
jordan holmes
Not me.
dan friesen
You're an owl policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Jordan.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Ella.
Thank you so much, Juran Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Thanks, Ella.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, Alan.
Thank you so much, John Al Policy Wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Alan.
dan friesen
Thank you.
And finally, we got a technocrat here, Jordan.
This is boy.
I don't know if this is poking fun at my inability to pronounce names.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Okay.
But my fiancé's Irish friends and family pronounce my name Craig, but it's pronounced Craigie.
Thank you.
You're now a technocrat.
I don't know if I mispronounced the mispronunciation correctly.
Oh, boy.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
Crocky, Mike.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a burdo.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
All right, we got to go full-tailed buggy on this, Watson.
All right.
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimps so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare info war on you.
dan friesen
All right, so how would you pronounce this?
Okay.
C-R-A-Y.
Obviously, Cray.
jordan holmes
Yes.
alex jones
Dash G-E-H.
jordan holmes
Craig?
No.
If he's talking about Irish.
dan friesen
Craig.
jordan holmes
If he's talking about Irish.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
His fiancé's Irish friends and family pronounce his name Craig, but it's actually Craig-G-E-H.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Craig.
Okay.
Here's what I would say, knowing what I know about how Irish people talk.
dan friesen
I don't think he's Irish.
jordan holmes
No, he's not Irish, but it's Irish that's important here because they're pronouncing it more like crack, which is in Irish, it's not crack.
It means good.
dan friesen
Essentially, I'm seeing a phonetic spelling of how it's actually pronounced, but not one for how the Irish people pronounce it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, chances are they pronounce it.
It's Crag.
dan friesen
Aggro.
jordan holmes
Yes, it's probably that.
dan friesen
Well, anyway, this mystery shall not be solved.
But thank you.
Here is an out-of-context drop, Jordan, for today from the episode: How Hitler.
alex jones
He'll probably edit me out saying that and say, look, Jones just howled Hitler.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I did.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No, We can do that.
That is available at any time.
dan friesen
Uh-oh.
alex jones
How Hitler.
dan friesen
Hope we don't accidentally use that for nefarious purposes.
jordan holmes
Dan, you're a traitor, Heil Hitler.
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
So we started off today's episode, and there's a couple of main stories that Alex is preoccupied with.
And the first one is one that is going to annoy everybody across the board.
alex jones
Again, thank you for joining us on this Sunday October 31st broadcast.
Wow, the incredible amounts of news here.
First off, Democratic Party operatives got caught again like they did in Charlottesville four years ago, leading the Attempt to stir up racial conflict so that they can try to derail an election and make sure that a Democrat gets into power and replaces the other Democrat, the monster Governor Northam that's leaving.
Caught red-handed right during the national firestorm of basically every newspaper and every so-called news TV program attacking Tucker Carlson and by extension,
yours truly for daring to say that January 6th had feds and NGOs, by the way, provocateuring a small minority of the million people that were there for a peaceful demonstration to break into the Capitol.
dan friesen
Alex has never and will never present any compelling evidence that either the Unite the Right rally in 2017 or the storming of the Capitol on January 6th were provocateur or somehow run by shadowy forces in the government or some unnamed NGO like the Red Cross.
alex jones
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
The standard that's required to claim that something is proven is so low on this show that he can just get away with saying whatever he wants.
Oh, it's proven.
Anyway, as for the current situation, it has to do with a dirty trick type stunt that the Lincoln Project pulled on Virginia gubernatorial candidate Glenn Youngkin.
They had five people dress up in khakis and hold tiki torches near Junkin's bus during a photo op and voice support for the GOP candidate.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
There's a number of angles to this whole thing, but I want to just say up front, so it's totally clear that I'm entirely opposed to what the Lincoln Project did.
The first and most important reason is that a kind of stunt like this strikes me as a bit disrespectful to the folks in the community and the activists who are at the Unite the Right rally.
At very least, it seems like a co-opting in a very crass way of their experience and trauma and using that as a prop for a political rally.
Second, this just isn't an effective strategy, and it's tailor-made to backfire.
The intent was allegedly to create a spectacle that would highlight Jungkin's bigotry and shittiness, but that was never going to be the outcome.
And it's kind of hard for me to believe that the Lincoln Project, a group of Republican strategists who made their brand just not liking Trump, wouldn't know that the right-wing media as it exists would completely tear this apart and immediately shift the conversation to being about how this stunt proves that the left is just creating fake white supremacists to be mad at and make you scared of, and how January 6th was really the Democrats' fault when you get right down to it.
I cannot in good faith believe that the specific people who run the Lincoln Project would be so naive as to not know that this is the result that would happen and that their actions actively hurt the cause that they're pretending to support.
I find that difficult.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, all I saw was Republicans dressing like Republicans.
I didn't see a stunt at all.
dan friesen
Well, sure.
But I mean, like, you could.
The problem is like the various people that were actually the people who dressed up may have been Democrats themselves.
And then that creates the entire optics of a Democrat dirty trick or whatever.
jordan holmes
Don't care.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Fuck them.
dan friesen
As for what Alex is saying, all of this is completely detached from reality.
The Lincoln Project is not the left, as Alex claims.
The Lincoln Project sucks, and it's not aligned with the left, nor is it even as left-leaning as the Democratic Party.
They're essentially a bunch of Republicans who read the room and they realized they didn't want to be on Trump's side and decided to work an anti-Trump but pro-conservative grift targeted at Democrats desperate to find some Republicans who weren't evil.
A May 2020 report from Open Secrets pointed out the following, quote, the Lincoln Project reported spending nearly $1.4 million through March.
Almost all of that money went to the group's board members and firms run by them.
The Super PAC spent nearly $1 million with Summit Strategic Communications, a firm run by Lincoln Project Treasurer Reed Galen.
Another $215,000 went to the Tusk Digital, a company run by Lincoln Project advisor Ron Steslow.
Both companies received little business from other federal committees since Trump's inauguration.
A February 2021 piece on the Huffington Post reports that over $50 million of the $90 million the Lincoln Project had raised had, quote, gone to firms controlled by the group's leaders.
I have a strong suspicion that these folks are just running a scam, and if you needed to be further persuaded of this, I would submit to you the response that their co-founder Steve Schmidt gave when asked about their financial sketchiness.
Quote, we fully comply with the law.
The Lincoln Project will be delighted to open its books for audit immediately after the Trump campaign and all its affiliated super PACs do so, explaining the cash flow of nearly $700 million that flowed through their organizations controlled by Brad Parscal and Jared Kushner.
I don't know if I could come up with a response that makes you look more guilty than that, but that one wasn't that good.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no, you don't get it.
We'll open our books in the exact same way that the theoretical evil person that we don't like should open his books.
And since he won't, we won't, thus proving we're morally superior to them.
dan friesen
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
And I know you are.
But what am I?
dan friesen
And these other evil people kind of, they make the same argument that they'll do it when some other person does.
jordan holmes
Oh, totally.
No, and if Obama did it, then I would do it.
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's just a game of fucking dominoes, and it's really stupid.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the conservative grift is like a fucking pouring water in an uneven tile floor below sea level.
Just like wherever there's a hole to be filled with money, they will find it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And one of the primary things that sparks suspicion about their business model at the Lincoln Project isn't just that the money seems to flow to Lincoln Project folks' other companies.
jordan holmes
It's very suspicious.
dan friesen
But it is, but that's not the only thing.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, not the only part.
dan friesen
The real kicker is that they spend a suspiciously high percentage of their budget on producing their ads.
As that article in Open Secrets points out, they spent $19,000 on an ad against Martha McSally, but only one quarter of that amount was spent on ad placement, quote, with the rest spent on production costs.
These are, of course, production costs that are paid to companies that are run by the people in charge of the Lincoln Project.
jordan holmes
And you can write those off.
dan friesen
That three quarters of the budget going to production costs is juxtaposed with that of the pro-Trump super PAC America First action, which had production costs at about 2%, quote, with the rest of their budget going to ad buying.
The Lincoln Project are not anyone's friend but their own.
And to drive that point home, think about the fact that if George W. Bush was president right now, their organization wouldn't exist.
They don't really care about the things they want you to think they care about.
They just want you to think that they do so they can fundraise.
Also, they had to cut ties with one of their co-founders, John Weaver, after multiple allegations of him, quote, sexually harassing young men looking to break into politics came to the surface.
To their credit, they did put out a statement denouncing Weaver in January 2021.
To the opposite of their credit, they knew about the, quote, at least 10 specific allegations of harassment since June 2020 and chose to ignore it until the outlet the American Conservative began reporting on the allegations.
Anyway, this stupid stunt that they tried to pull at the Youngkin event is exactly what you would expect from them.
It's flashy, it seems like it's making a point, but it actually isn't, and it's red meat for the right-wing media.
The important thing to understand about this is that regardless of the motivation for their actions, what the Lincoln Project did is counterproductive and they should just stop.
jordan holmes
No, I mean, ultimately, the Lincoln Project exists to create a group of people more than willing to lean into whatever right-wing narrative is already being created about the left and thus justify it, giving them more power.
And because the Lincoln Project is theoretically separate from the Conservative Party, you can have the Lincoln Project do exactly what the right needs the lefter media to do that they're not doing.
dan friesen
I wouldn't controlled opposition.
jordan holmes
It's just like that's what's available for the griff.
dan friesen
I wouldn't go as far as what you're suggesting, kind of.
And I know that you don't mean this literally, but that kind of does end up like getting into coordination, like ideas of coordination.
Right.
It's just they're smart enough to know a spot where they can make a little bit of, they can get a piece of the attention economy and use it to fundraise and make a lot of money.
jordan holmes
No, there's great.
I mean, because the thing is, what can happen, and it's, I'm not saying that it's like collusion or that they're they're operating in random.
dan friesen
I don't, I, I don't think that you were saying that it just sounded too close to me.
jordan holmes
I can totally totally understand that.
I just mean like when there is a spot for the left media that the right wants to hate, the right will always go to that left media as well because they hate it so much in the same way that they are afraid of their own media, so they constantly go back to that.
So there's a grift to be made there.
They make it, and it just so happens to dovedale perfectly with what they already want.
Right.
dan friesen
And I think the other thing, too, is that by doing these stunts and also being like, we don't like Trump.
Yeah, we're cool.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They allow themselves to be portrayed as actually Democrats.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
So that's what's useful.
jordan holmes
The media slobbers all over themselves to portray them as Democrats.
Non-stop.
Just like, look at what these brave conservatives are doing.
dan friesen
Right, right.
And then they can be painted as actually secret Democrats by the right-wing media, and it allows them to perpetuate the cycle.
jordan holmes
The whole grift is there.
It's not even hard.
dan friesen
And so what it's all really about is that the left is freaking out because Tucker Carlson is doing this documentary thing about the Patriot Purge.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
With January 6th.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
They're mad that people are mad at Goebbels.
Yeah.
alex jones
And there's Tucker's show.
He's going to be covering it all week on Fox.
Well, they're all freaking out about the three-part series that starts airing tomorrow night, Applaud Against the People.
And the left is celebrating that it's only available on Fox Nation to a few million people.
Tucker's ratings are going to go up to all-time high, and he's going to be covering it all week with the biggest highlights and proof.
So just watching Tucker play the left like a fiddle and really torch all their fraud is a beautiful thing.
It's even more satisfying when I get the credit.
And it is a little bit to do that.
Let's just say I helped wake up Tucker and Joe Rogan.
dan friesen
Cool.
I don't think that I mean, this is pathetic because Alex, I don't think he is dealing with reality that Tucker Carlson would throw him under the bus in a second if it helped his ratings.
jordan holmes
Oh, in an instant.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Whenever the wind blows in another direction, Tucker will get his bow tie back or whatever.
He's not.
jordan holmes
No, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Alex didn't wake him up.
He showed him a profitable lane to be able to have an audience.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no.
When the wind changes, he and Jon Stewart are going to go on a tour debating for 25 cities in six months or whatever.
And they're going to be millionaires all over again.
Stupid.
dan friesen
Whatever the case may be, Alex pretending that he woke him up somehow.
And like whatever Tucker is doing now is somehow like, oh, this is the sincere version of what he really is getting into the facts.
No, no, this is just his brand now.
Give him a couple years, see where he's at.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, this is really just about white people.
It always was and how under attack they are.
White people, Evit bad.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
They got all the major corporations from ATT to Goldman Sachs and J.P. Morgan to you name it saying white people are inherently bad because of the color of their skin.
I have right here, and I got copies of it, the critical race theory training put out by the CEO, signed by him.
jordan holmes
CEO critical race theory.
alex jones
This is a copy of it.
Of the critical race theory training for all AT ⁇ T employees.
It actually says, quote, white people are the problem, close quote.
It goes on and says being white is inherently a genetic trait of being a bad person.
I mean, folks, that's 100% Hitler.
It's just being reversed to say, of course, Hitler said most whites were bad, too.
jordan holmes
What?
Are you fucking talking about that?
alex jones
Uber mentioned the Superman, and then you had just the regular slaves with the rest of the white people, and then everybody else that wasn't white.
Yeah, death was actually what Hitler spoke about.
jordan holmes
So, yeah, he didn't have too much problem with, wait, what?
unidentified
What was your point?
dan friesen
When I hear Alex talk about issues like this, I kind of wonder if he actually even understands what Hitler was up to.
Why did Alex say that Hitler spoke about these things?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
that's the sort of thing you might say if you thought that maybe he didn't act on the things he spoke about.
jordan holmes
Maybe that's fucking weird.
Maybe that all he did was say those things, and then the media came up with this fake narrative about him doing those things.
He was just asking questions, damn it.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
The media always tries to hate people who ask questions.
dan friesen
So these aren't really quotes from AT ⁇ T's training materials.
jordan holmes
That's not surprising.
dan friesen
This is a story about race-related training that had been leaked to a journalist who then made claims about the material without actually, you know, he wasn't actually citing stuff from the material.
jordan holmes
See, there's an issue.
dan friesen
And then those claims are the things that have been repeated by figures in the right-wing media, presented as being from the actual documents, as opposed to a writer's interpretation of them.
jordan holmes
I just wish this was harder.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
For their part, AT ⁇ T released a statement saying that the reporting on this is, quote, filled with misinformation and inaccuracies.
And I'm going to applaud this journalist in question for actually releasing the documents in question here so I can take a look at them and see for myself.
One of the problems that jumps out to me immediately when I see these documents is that it clearly what amounts to a printout of an interactive web platform, basically, or program.
There's like a huge selection of links and different sections, which obviously will take you to other pages that serve as resources to inform the point of the exercise that's being undergone here.
One of the big things that's constantly parroted about this document is that it teaches the employees that if white people want to know who is responsible for racism, they should look in the mirror.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That formulation is in a ton of articles covering this attempt at a scandal.
And here's what that comes from.
It's in a section of links, and it goes to an op-ed in the Chicago Tribune titled, quote, white America, if you want to know who's responsible for racism, look in the mirror.
Yes, those words do appear in this document, but the context is pretty intentionally ignored by the people trying to drum up outrage about this.
The op-ed was written by Delene Glanton, and for the most part, it makes a fair point.
From the article, quote, racism is no different from any other chronic problem.
It occurs as long as it goes unchecked.
Black people, for the most part, are powerless to stop racism.
If we could, we would have done it a long time ago.
In many ways, this op-ed shares some common themes with Martin Luther King Jr.'s letter from a Birmingham jail, particularly the part about being gravely disappointed with the white moderate.
Yeah.
You know, everyone has heard that.
We don't need to belabor that point.
jordan holmes
MLK, if you don't know him, look him up.
Pretty smart dude.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's a good guy.
dan friesen
Glanton's op-ed is essentially an articulation of a challenge for people who are not racist to recognize that their inaction effectively aids racism continuing.
And that the change needed to get where we want to go starts within your own mind.
It isn't saying that white people are evil or bad.
It's just, you know, that's the interpretation you might expect a racist to have.
Sure, sure, sure.
Because it's kind of threatening to racism.
jordan holmes
You can either be anti-racist, racist, or you can facilitate racism, but you can't be in the middle.
dan friesen
The thing about white people being genetically racist isn't actually from the ATT materials, as Alex is sort of presenting it.
jordan holmes
Not surprised.
dan friesen
But if you didn't read anything past the salacious articles about this, you might think that it was.
It's actually just another misrepresentation of something from Glanton's op-ed in the Chicago Tribune.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
Quote: American racism is a uniquely white trait.
Black people cannot be racist towards you.
Racism, by definition, is quote, prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
Black people cannot exude a sense of superiority that we have never experienced.
I guess if you want to get mad about that quote, you can do that, but it would be good if you were mad at the actual context instead of a fake version of what this person's saying.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, and that's all that's going on.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I read over this whole document from ATT, and honestly, it's a well-intentioned but dorky attempt at a corporation to appear to be doing their part.
At the end of it, there's this 21-day challenge that suggests some questions to consider and some books to read.
But it also includes suggestions on things like how you should stay inspired.
They suggest you, quote, create a soundtrack for justice playlist that fuels you and or can serve as a conversation starter with people of all ages.
jordan holmes
All right, well, now I'm mad.
dan friesen
Their suggested soundtrack includes such dorts.
jordan holmes
No, no, don't tell me.
dan friesen
Where is the love by the Black IPs?
Brave by Sarah Barry Ellis.
jordan holmes
Oh my God, no.
dan friesen
And Roar by Katie Perry.
jordan holmes
Wow.
I mean, you just don't get more justice-oriented in a playlist.
dan friesen
There's some good tracks on there, too.
I'm sure you'd love to know that Whitey on the Moon is on that.
jordan holmes
Is Whitey on the Moon on that?
dan friesen
That's it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But there's also three songs by McElmore, so take that for what it's worth.
jordan holmes
Wow.
Wow.
dan friesen
And it's not a huge playlist, and there's three songs.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know, you dream of the day McIlmore walks up to Gil Scott Heron and says, Did I do a good job?
dan friesen
And then Gil Scott Heron says, That's a cold-ass honky.
So the journalist who published this sensational article about the document is a guy named Christopher Ruffo.
And that might not be a name that's familiar to most people, but it probably should be.
He's essentially the entire reason that the right wing is up in arms about critical race theory.
Rufo has leaked some documents from an anti-racism seminar put together by the City of Seattle's Office of Civil Rights.
And after he reported on it as a scandal, he began to get other such slideshows sent to him.
According to a profile of him in the New Yorker, quote, Rufo noticed that they tended to cite a small set of popular anti-racism books by authors such as Ibrahim X. Kendi and Robin D'Angelo.
Ruffo read the footnotes of these books and found that they pointed to academic scholarship from the 1990s by a group of legal scholars who referred to their work as critical race theory, in particular Kimberly Crenshaw and Derek Bell.
Rufo followed that thread and decided that the entire idea of anti-racism is actually kind of a Marxist plot, which I hate to break it to him.
That's exactly what the John Birch Society was saying in the 1960s when they were opposing the civil rights movement.
jordan holmes
No, this is brand new, Dan.
It's critical race theory.
dan friesen
He uncovered this wild new thought.
jordan holmes
Did you see the video on Twitter going around of the guy who's like, what's the biggest issue in the election today?
Critical race there.
And it's like, why are we dunking on him?
All he's saying is that the biggest issue is race.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
He doesn't care about the critical or the theory part.
He's saying, this is about white people dominating.
I don't understand.
dan friesen
I think the reason that people were dunking on that video is because the follow-up question is, what is it?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he has no idea.
jordan holmes
He doesn't care.
The point is, it's race.
dan friesen
Right.
And we're going to get to this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Benjamin Wallace Wells, the author of this piece in The New Yorker, corresponded with Rufo, and this is how Rufo explained his path: quote, We've needed new language on these issues.
Political correctness is a dated term, and more importantly, doesn't apply anymore.
It's not that elites are enforcing a set of manners and cultural limits.
They're seeking to re-engineer the foundation of human psychology and social institutions through the new politics of race.
It's much more invasive than mere correctness, which is a mechanism of social control, but it's not the heart of what's happening.
The other frames are wrong, too.
Cancel culture is a vacuous term that doesn't translate into a political program.
Woke is a good epithet, but it's too broad, too terminal, too easily brushed aside.
Critical race theory is the perfect villain.
jordan holmes
We can say race, but people won't just say, oh, they're saying it's about white people versus everybody else.
dan friesen
Last September, Rufo appeared on Tucker Carlson's show and put the term critical race theory onto the right-wing media's map, and from there it's become the new way for conservatives to express racism while maintaining an appearance of social acceptability.
I also hate to inform conservatives that they are just repeating themselves again.
And for an illustration, I'd like to present to you a passage from a 1981 interview with Republican strategist and Roger Stone buddy Lee Atwater.
jordan holmes
Oh, hey, that guy was great.
dan friesen
Quote, you start, by the way, whenever I say N, it's a hard R. Censoring myself because I'm not Dave Anderson.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, we're not doing that.
dan friesen
Quote, you start out in 1954 by saying N, N, N. By 1968, you can't say N.
That hurts you, backfires.
So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights, and all that stuff.
And you're getting so abstract.
Now you're talking about cutting taxes.
And all these things that you're talking about are totally economic things.
And a byproduct of them is blacks get hurt worse than whites.
We want to cut this is much more abstract than even the busing thing and a hell lot more abstract than yelling NN.
jordan holmes
Hey, you know what's great?
Not doing anything about a pandemic that disproportionately affects minorities over the dominant.
dan friesen
Coding racism in abstract and marketable ways is kind of a standard operation for conservatives, so it's not surprising to see Rufo found a new term to use to play that old game and he thinks he's a genius.
Anyway, Trump saw him on Twitter, got him to come to DC, and he helped Trump draft an executive order.
jordan holmes
Great.
Yep.
I just love that Lee Atwater can just say it and it doesn't matter.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And you just see the exact same thing.
And Rufo said it in this correspondence with the New Yorker.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So that New Yorker article about Rufo also has a bit from Kimberly Crenshaw, the law professor who coined the term critical race theory years ago.
I think her take on this is pretty much exactly correct.
Quote, reform itself creates its own backlash, which reconstitutes the problem in the first place, Crenshaw said, noting that she'd made this argument in her first law review article in 1988.
George Floyd's murder had led to, quote, so many corporations and opinion-shaping institutions making statements about structural racism, creating a new broader anti-racism, racist alignment, or at least the potential for one.
Quote, this is a post-George Floyd backlash, Crenshaw said.
The reason why we're having this conversation is that the line of scrimmage has moved.
As she saw it, the campaign against critical race theory presented a familiar effort to shift the point of the argument so that rather than being about structural racism, post-George Floyd politics were about the seminars that had proliferated to address structural racism.
I think that about sums it up.
Anyway, the guy who got mad about corporate seminars and stumbled into a shiny new buzzword for racists to use to hide behind has found a new corporate seminar to be mad about.
And hopefully he's going to get some airtime on Tucker and his career in this shitty scam could continue.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Fuck all this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the only people being really bilked are the idiots who run everything.
Like everybody who's forced by the rules of television to pretend that this is valuable.
Like, don't.
Don't engage with this garbage.
If somebody says, oh, critical race theory, just go, okay, your problem is race.
Get rid of the critical in the theory.
Your problem is race.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
The end.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, if you want to have like a conversation like this on Tucker Carlson's show about critical race theory, I would just roll up a newspaper.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Can't do it.
Stop it.
Or just bad dog.
Right in the neck.
Yeah, right in the neck.
dan friesen
Got a train this out.
jordan holmes
Give him a treat whenever he says it's good.
dan friesen
Or he just doesn't talk about.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if he stays quiet about race for a while, you get a treat.
dan friesen
So big story number one is basically this Lincoln Project stunt.
Big story number two is.
alex jones
There's a Jim Acosta piece, and I don't normally air Jim Acosta's attacks on myself or anybody else because he's just such a discredited joke.
But Jim Acosta came out and he tried to gaslight everybody in a seven and a half minute clip.
And I'm going to take two segments out today.
It'll take a good 20 minutes to cover this.
I'm going to just play it and stop it, play it and stop it because everything he's saying about myself and Tucker Carlson is what he's doing.
dan friesen
I'm rubber.
He is glued.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We had the promise of another just like analysis of a clip.
I'm going to take this inch by inch.
jordan holmes
Two segments, 20 minutes.
Right.
Thorough.
dan friesen
I always kind of get excited when that happens because I know Alex is just going to find words to hinge his responses on and be like, talk over any part that might involve context that could disagree with him.
Yep.
jordan holmes
This thing.
dan friesen
Classic.
So I was looking forward to that.
And it comes towards the end of the episode.
The problem that the system and the establishment has with Tucker is that he's emblematic of the fact that the GOP is waking up to the new world order.
jordan holmes
Oh, I thought that it was absurdly easy to be a billionaire off of lying.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
And this sort of rhetoric is exactly what leads to people getting hurt.
jordan holmes
Yes, terrorism.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Those are the things.
dan friesen
But no, no.
It's that the GOP is waking up.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
alex jones
The entire Republican Party is waking up to the new world order and the globalist and the great reset and the rest of it.
And the whole neocon arm of Karl Rove and George W. Bush and the rest of them are becoming completely obsolete.
They aren't even really contending anymore for power in the party.
Whoever Trump certifies, whoever Trump supports, out of like 150-plus races, two that he endorsed lost, the 150-plus won.
And that doesn't mean Trump's perfect, but compared to the globalist, I mean, he's the polar opposite.
dan friesen
So that technically isn't true.
Like, he's also mixing things up here because, like, are we talking about general elections or primaries?
Because Trump's endorsement doesn't matter in the general, really.
I mean, just really matters in the primaries.
But he's pretty close.
Alex is pretty close.
It's disturbing as hell.
jordan holmes
It's so funny that when he said races, I was like, well, obviously he said racists.
And then it was like, out of 150 racists he supported, only two lost.
And I was like, that sounds about right.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
At least you're honest.
dan friesen
So ballot pedia tracks endorsements.
And for Trump in the battleground primaries in the 2020 election, he went 21-2 among the candidates he backed.
alex jones
Not bad.
dan friesen
That's even an improvement from the 2018 midterms where he went 15-2.
jordan holmes
That's a solid record.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He has a slightly less successful batting average when those candidates get to the general election.
But, you know, the numbers drop there a little bit.
Honestly, that's not the claim that Alex is making, or at least it's not the relevant claim.
He's saying that the Bush types have lost sway in the Republican Party and that Trump is a kingmaker in the GOP now.
The only metric that's relevant there is how these candidates do in the primary.
And Trump's numbers are undeniably solid there.
jordan holmes
How's the general?
dan friesen
It's worse, but it's still good.
jordan holmes
No, it's still good.
dan friesen
It's still not bad, but it's like 70% or something as opposed to a bit higher in the it's it's terrifying.
And all it really speaks to is how badly they want a king.
jordan holmes
Yeah, oh, totally.
dan friesen
Just want a dictator.
jordan holmes
It's really funny watching the Democrats right now because it does feel like they're mad that lying to their electorate about doing something and then not doing it doesn't work as well as the right wing.
It feels like they're like, this should work.
They do it all the time.
They lie to you nonstop.
They didn't do any of the shit that you said that you wanted them to do.
And you still love Trump.
Why can't we just lie to your faces?
dan friesen
Well, it's because their version of the lying is aspirational.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
And it doesn't actually involve the same sort of bloodthirstiness and anger that the right wing does, which are the appealing parts of it for a lot of the folks who get tricked by it over and over and over and over again.
jordan holmes
They're not going to Trump because they think Trump is going to give them health care.
They're going to Trump because they think Trump is going to let them murder people they don't want to live anymore.
dan friesen
They don't think that Trump is going to give them health care.
They think he's going to take it away from people that don't want to do it.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Yes, yes, absolutely.
And Hope Springs Eternal for that.
dan friesen
So a problem that will be with us for the rest of our lives is that every single election will be stolen.
And that's the case here in the Virginia gubernatorial race.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
alex jones
Infowars.com.
It's a headline.
Trump-hating Virginia elections director says Tuesday's results may have to, quote, wait until Friday or maybe longer because of mail-in votes.
And again, this isn't like absentee voters where you sign it, it's certified you've already voted.
This is a large portion of the state saying, oh, no, we don't want to go vote because of COVID, a same replay we've seen across the nation.
And so they've got stockpiles of all these extra ballots out there that then wait in reserve in warehouses until the middle of the night or until the next middle of the night, a few days later, and then in pull the vans, and then they stick the ballots that are all for the Democrat candidate into the machine.
Remember, we saw the footage of that in Georgia.
We saw the footage of that in Michigan.
We saw the footage of that in Pennsylvania.
We saw the record of that happening in Arizona.
All the places that Trump won by two, three, four, five, or even up to 10 times the numbers he won in 2016.
And all the top-round states, that night when they said we're not counting anymore at one or two or three in the morning, depending on the state, Trump had won by one point, two points, three points, four points, five points.
Most of those states, he barely won by a fraction of a point.
And suddenly he was winning by two, three, four points.
dan friesen
All this is too many numbers.
I mean, if you're listening to this, first of all, none of that's true.
But also, if you're even listening to him and you like this, it's like, oh my God, I can't keep track of all these numbers.
Alex, can you please find a folksy way to help me understand this?
alex jones
You know, my four-year-old daughter got some candy from her grandmother for Halloween.
And we put it away and I told her, stop eating.
You've had too much.
You're going to make yourself sick last night.
And I saw her kind of walk over behind the couch, and she was kind of acting suspicious when she ducked down.
And I went over there and she had a Tootsie roll.
And it was bedtime.
She couldn't have it.
I mean, she's okay, looking, goes over, hides behind the couch.
I mean, this is more obvious.
In Georgia, they look both ways, look around, they say a water bane's broke, they kick everybody out, they put stuff up over the windows, and then they go and flip up the tablecloth and pull out the briefcases and look around.
They start shooting it through there.
And we have to sit here and watch this and put up with this type of crap while these people steal the election in front of us.
dan friesen
Yeah, so don't worry about all those numbers and stuff that Alex was talking about.
The Democrats and all the people were caught red-handed in Georgia, like Alex's child with a Tootsie roll under the table.
jordan holmes
Right.
I'm still kind of stuck on that order of operations problem.
So I've got like 10x parentheses, two plus two points minus negative three points for areas that he's foolish.
dan friesen
You should not do this because you don't understand crazy math.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
I don't.
Yes.
I don't.
dan friesen
You must understand crazy math in order to.
jordan holmes
I mean, non-Euclidean geometry beyond me.
dan friesen
So a bit of what Alex is talking about, like in there with the Georgia video, that's a bit of fiction that the right-wing media put together to serve as a dead to rights proof that the 2020 election was stolen from Trump, but it's bullshit.
jordan holmes
Wow, it was like the Left Behind movie was dead to rights proof that we've already lived through the apocalypse.
dan friesen
Sure.
In Georgia, there was a pipe that burst at the State Farm Arena where absentee ballots were being processed at approximately 6 a.m. on November 3rd.
There's also a video that made the rounds of what appears to be people pulling ballots out from under a table at the State Farm Arena vote counting area.
That video was from about 10.15 the night prior and had nothing to do with the pipe burst.
Some anonymous weirdo called the Hip Hop Patriot decided to combine the two into a compelling story, put it out on Twitter, and from there it became Alex's reality.
jordan holmes
So easy.
dan friesen
It's a way better scene for a detective novel the way Alex is telling this story, but none of it's true.
jordan holmes
Well, that's a problem.
Right.
That's also why detective novels are way better than real life.
dan friesen
Columbo would hear this and be like, Alex, one more thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Just one more thing.
None of this is true.
jordan holmes
I just want to give you one more thing.
dan friesen
All this is bullshit.
jordan holmes
All this is a lie.
You're out of your mind.
dan friesen
Also, after what we learned on our last episode about how evil Halloween is, I can't believe Alex allows his children to take part in it.
That seems really dangerous.
jordan holmes
There are so many witches out there that don't want Alex to know all the shit they're doing to his four-year-old right now.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
I mean, like, think about it.
If this child gets a Tootsie roll, it's going to have a positive association with Halloween.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's devilry now.
dan friesen
You can't allow this.
jordan holmes
That's when the veil between worlds is at its thinnest.
Any moment now she's going to be talking, and she's a woman child.
She's being recruited by witches.
dan friesen
Woman child.
jordan holmes
Alex's woman child?
Got to become a witch.
dan friesen
The power that that woman child is going to have because of the lineage of Alex Jones is going to be so valuable to the coven.
jordan holmes
The Terry Pratchett witches every time he says witches, they just make me laugh so much.
Woman child.
I love it.
dan friesen
Nonsense.
So anyway, Alex has a National File article that he kind of takes issue with.
He's like, I don't know about this.
I don't know.
I got to make a correction on the fly.
alex jones
And look, I'm not knocking this National File article.
Andrew White's a good writer.
There's a problem in this article.
It says the drastic changes to various state election laws nationwide in almost all those states.
It was done by consent decree by the governors outside the legislatures.
It was not the law.
dan friesen
Talking about like absentee power.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Hey, guys, you can vote.
alex jones
And that's why the whole election was a fraud right there.
The 2020 election is a fraud and has to be redone.
Don't hold your breath just under the law because of that fraud right there.
But it's already been certified by Congress.
And that's why Mike Lindell's right about it all being a fraud and Supreme Court should overturn it.
But they don't have the political will.
We need to stop worrying about reinstating Trump.
Don't hold your breath.
And we need to start working on stopping the current fraud in the special elections and the midterms in 12 months and the general election coming up in three years.
unidentified
That's the war.
alex jones
That's the fight.
dan friesen
Wait, I thought we were dead already.
jordan holmes
I could have sworn that we were not going to make it three years to the next election.
dan friesen
Didn't Alex just have like a little tantrum like a week ago?
jordan holmes
I mean, we're all going to die.
Everybody who gets the vaccine dies within six months to a year.
dan friesen
How do we need to worry about the and the rest of the unvaccinated who survive this culling will have to beat down the globalists?
jordan holmes
Yeah, what are we talking about three years from now?
There's an election.
dan friesen
Fuck about 2024.
jordan holmes
You deadly.
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We need to really focus on getting out the vote after the fucking zombies arise from beneath the earth with their vaccines to destroy us.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, honestly, we will have to have a very uncomfortable conversation at that point about whether or not zombies can vote.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't know.
That's a good question.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Look, no matter what we choose, it's going to look bad in high sight.
jordan holmes
It's not going to be good.
It's not going to be good.
Zombie MLK is going to be real pissed at us.
dan friesen
So about a week ago, week and a half ago, everybody's dead because Alex is in a bad mood because he lost that case.
jordan holmes
It's a really bad thing.
Everybody was going to die.
dan friesen
Right.
Everyone's going to die.
Now he's gotten a little bit of time.
He's got a little bit of distance.
And, you know, hey, look, we've got to focus on 2024.
jordan holmes
It's important to remind yourself that they're always a decade behind.
So you think you're going to die in three years.
That's actually 13 years.
dan friesen
So, you know, this kind of discordant thing is in poker another thing that you call a tell.
That all that stuff about how we're going to die in six months, that's just kind of an extreme sensational bullshit thing to keep the audience's attention, keep their emotions heightened, keep them scared in order to funnel their attention towards the political projects that you hope to push in the midterms and in 2024.
That's essentially the grift here that Alex is engaging in.
jordan holmes
Again, it should be harder.
You should have to work harder, but you really don't.
dan friesen
It turns out you don't.
jordan holmes
You just don't.
dan friesen
Well, you know who does have to work hard?
unidentified
Who?
dan friesen
The glovelists.
jordan holmes
And then no one else?
The globalists.
dan friesen
Because they have to pull all these false flags.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
dan friesen
So many false flags.
jordan holmes
That is time consuming.
alex jones
And the deep stage terror attacks run the gamut from actually blowing up a federal building and then blaming it on their Patsy McVay in 1995, and that was open and shut.
You research it.
A staged event by the very same crew in power today.
jordan holmes
No, we wanted him to do it.
alex jones
The Attorney General's fingerprints all over it.
He was one of the operatives heavily involved at the time.
And then you fast forward to things like Charlottesville, where you just get a bunch of Democratic operatives to dress up with tiki torches and to go out.
And then you have a leftist mob shows up actually believing that they're there to fight Nazis.
And then there's a huge explosion of violence and you can blame Trump.
dan friesen
This is stupid and obviously not true, but man, it's so weird how Alex has somehow proven that all of the high-profile acts of violence by bigots in history are real.
jordan holmes
It's so weird.
dan friesen
So weird.
jordan holmes
It's so weird.
And you would think that the party and the people pushing horrific racism as a matter of course would also probably be the ones at fault for the terrorist violence they claim and then are proud of.
dan friesen
But they would be if those things were real.
Yes.
Thankfully they're not because otherwise they'd be responsible for that.
See now that also, it's fascinating to hear that Joe Biden's fingerprints are all over the OKC.
jordan holmes
All over the OKC bombing.
dan friesen
Haven't heard that conspiracy before.
jordan holmes
I like it.
Honestly, I like it.
dan friesen
So I kind of think that he was just a senator in Delaware at the time.
jordan holmes
Now you would think that.
dan friesen
I'm interested to see how Alex would spell this conspiracy out.
And, you know, something just tells me that he was freestyling.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And just he just said whatever.
jordan holmes
Just pull, yeah.
dan friesen
But I think he was just like, that might be fun to say.
I'm going to say.
jordan holmes
Why didn't Biden did OKC?
unidentified
All right.
All right.
jordan holmes
That's a big swing.
That's a pachanic level swing.
If you can back that up with secret deep state sources in the State Department that you used to work with.
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
For sure.
Sometimes, though, Jordan, you have something that appears to be media manipulation.
Right?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But if you don't know anything and you're stupid, sometimes your ignorance about things is actually the cause of what you think is media manipulation.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
dan friesen
Case in point.
alex jones
The Roe v. Wade baby.
The Roe v. Wade baby.
jordan holmes
The Roe v. Wade News.
alex jones
It's all fake.
That's come out.
Mainstream news.
So it's normal to question these things.
Well, it happened again.
Friday, there were people with Tiki torches lining up at the Republicans' bus saying they were there officially with the Republican candidate because he's ahead in the polls and they're panicking.
They don't know if they've got enough warehouses, the Democrats do, full of ballots that they can bring in in the dead of night this time to stop this landslide.
They don't know.
And so they just show up with their tiki torches, and the media, NBC, all of them ran with, oh, the white supremacists, they're there supporting them.
dan friesen
First of all, I don't recall anyone ever claiming that Jane Rowe actually got an abortion.
The case was entirely predicated on the fact that she couldn't get an abortion, which is why there was a lawsuit.
If she'd gotten an abortion, she wouldn't make a good person to base access to an abortion case around for very obvious reasons.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
She had access to.
I think that people just assume that she got an abortion because of the association with that case, but I don't remember ever learning that or the media implying that.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
She gave the baby up for adoption, and I feel like the only way you wouldn't know that is if you never really actively looked into the case at all.
It seems like a mind-blowing bit of trivia for Alex, but like I said, I suspect that's just because he's an idiot.
A couple of quick points, though.
First, the fake protesters didn't say that they were officially there with Jungkin.
They were there to pose as his supporters, not an official wing of his campaign.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
Stupidly.
dan friesen
Second, I never heard this story reported as white supremacists with tiki torches at a Virginia rally.
By the time I saw this making the rounds, the story was already about how this was a PR stunt by the Lincoln Project.
Third, how could the Democrats ever not have enough fake ballots?
If rigging an election is as simple as Alex seems to think it is, they could just print more.
Like, this is dumb.
jordan holmes
No, Deion, you're not understanding.
The Fed controls inflation, okay?
If you print too many ballots, the value of the ballots goes down.
That could destroy the economy entirely.
All elections would become fair.
dan friesen
I know from sending out these buttons and making them that ink is not cheap.
jordan holmes
It is not.
No, that's true.
dan friesen
But then again, I'm not the Democratic Party.
jordan holmes
You're not even the Lincoln Project.
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think they have a little bit more access to postage money or ink money, as it were.
jordan holmes
I do like that arbitrary, oh, they couldn't print anymore.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
They couldn't find any more paper supply chain issues.
dan friesen
Look, dude, they don't know if they have enough warehouses full of fake ballots in order to swing this election.
So they had to send out fake tiki torch guys in order to make Glenn Youngkin look bad.
All right.
jordan holmes
Fine.
dan friesen
Fine.
jordan holmes
I do love just arbitrary.
Oh, man.
These guys are evil, unstoppable, incredible.
However, terrible with infrastructure and paper costs.
dan friesen
Well, actually, look, they're evil.
They run everything.
What are you going to do?
Paper jam.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
We've all been there.
jordan holmes
The devil can't train people on copy machines.
dan friesen
No.
That's just true.
The guy who fixes the copy machine died of COVID.
And so they can't get it fixed.
The evil globalist plan is going to fall apart.
Hence, they needed to get the Lincoln Project to send out some weirdo.
jordan holmes
Every time a copier breaks, the devil kills the guy who fixed it the last time.
And then enough of them were like, well, we just won't fix your copiers anymore.
dan friesen
So Alex believes that the Lincoln Project essentially fell on a grenade here.
This was actually the Democratic Party who did this.
And then because it blew up in their face or whatever, the Lincoln Project came out.
He's like, oh, it was us.
So that's kind of Alex's story on this.
alex jones
And then only after it came out, did then the Lincoln Project come to the rescue, and the Lincoln Project went on CNN.
And CNN said, here's the Republicans taking credit for what they did.
Republican strategist, the Lincoln Project.
That's like saying that Bill Clinton is a Republican or that Thomas was a Republican or Jimmy Carter was a Republican.
That's how dumb they think you are.
So once the Democrats were getting the blame for the false flag they were involved in, the racial false flag, well, here comes as fast as they could, almost falling over themselves as a Lincoln Project and say, oh, no, that's us.
dan friesen
Calling it a false flag is a little bit rich.
But also, Alex laughed in the middle there because he knew he'd fucked up in his list, but it was too late to do anything about it.
Not only could you say that Thomas Jefferson was a Republican, you could say that he literally founded the Democratic Republican Party, also known as the Jeffersonian Republican Party.
Sure.
That isn't the Republican Party that we know today, but none of the parties resemble themselves from even 100 years ago.
So great, whatever.
jordan holmes
Well, the Know Nothing Party has made a very strong comeback.
They may call themselves something different.
dan friesen
The Whigs from somewhere.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So yeah, calling the Lincoln Project Republican is essentially the same as calling Thomas Jefferson a Republican.
And Alex, you can hear him laughing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's like, wow, that shit.
You know, you win some, you lose some.
At least I'm not having a bad day today, and I'm going to tell everybody that millions are going to die tomorrow.
dan friesen
It's kind of interesting to me because he knows so little about Thomas Jefferson in terms of these fake quotes that he throws out all the time.
But that's a clear awareness that he's like, ah, shit, he actually is a Republican.
jordan holmes
Good for him.
dan friesen
Yeah, he knows a little.
jordan holmes
Good for him knowing a thing.
dan friesen
Yes.
So yeah, these actors who were in.
This is why I brought this up at the beginning of the episode.
These actors who were the people who were portraying the Tiki Torch wielding people.
Right.
People have figured out that they're Democrats.
alex jones
Sure.
But you see, Twitter and Instagram salutes actually found out the identities of the people, and they're well-known, high-level Democrat operatives.
So they're wearing disguises, hats with their hair tucked in and glasses, and they're not the Lincoln Project.
But the Lincoln Project itself is a Democrat Party cutout.
So you got Democrats posing as Republicans, the Lincoln Project, and you got Democrats posing as white supremacist, white nationalists as well.
I mean, they're posing as everybody except who they really are, Democrat Party operatives.
And if you blow their cover, well, Georgetown University, with all that taxpayer money they get, oh, they're a private college.
They get taxpayer money.
They come and sue you to shut you up.
dan friesen
This is how Alex is trying to rationalize why he's being sued for defaming Brennan Gilmore in the Unite the Right rally suit that is going to trial fairly soon.
Alex will probably have some troubles with that.
jordan holmes
Nah, he's going to be great.
dan friesen
It's a little less high profile than the Sandy Hook one.
jordan holmes
I'm telling you, I bet he's learned his lesson.
Totally.
dan friesen
So, the people who portrayed the fake white nationalists in the Lincoln Project stunt very well may have been Democrats, but even if you prove that they're involved in politics and swing to the left, that still doesn't prove that they were engaged in this stunt under any official auspices of the Democratic Party.
If you think about it for a second, who else are you going to get to pose as white nationalists at a GOP rally other than Democrats?
Probably highly motivated young ones.
You know, I think that's the pool of people you might be able to get to be, hey, it's a political stunt.
jordan holmes
We're going to, you know, don't forget, it would also have to be somebody who's like, wait a second, you want me to go to a place where horrific violence happened and traumatize a bunch of people just by dressing like an idiot?
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would love to do that.
I'm on the left.
dan friesen
Yeah, you kind of have to be not that thoughtful of a person.
You can't be.
No.
So at this point, we get back to the ATT manual.
And apparently, this is ATT admits that this is just racial re-education, which is not true.
alex jones
Yeah.
Here's ATT's own training manual.
ATT says racial re-education program, that's a close quote, asserts, quote, white people are the problem.
That's a quote.
Radical re-education program.
White people are the problem.
That's a quote.
You ought to go to the article on Infowars.com by Paul Joseph Watson.
You ought to link through to the whole document that got put out.
And it's the CEO of it, John Stanky, S-T-A-N-K-E-Y, Stanky.
And he just says the whole world's problems aren't Chinese slave camps or aren't toxic waste dumping or aren't the forced inoculations killing some of the people, the economy locking down.
No, no, It's white people, says the white person.
Just total divide and conquer.
Super nasty behavior.
dan friesen
I don't think that what you'd come away with from reading these or looking at these documents is that they're arguing that it's the only problem or even the biggest problem in the world.
It's just a problem.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Also, toxic waste dumping is a weird thing for Alex to have on that list.
I mean, how do you want to solve that one?
jordan holmes
Reminds me of white people.
dan friesen
How do you want to resolve that one, Alex?
Maybe regulation?
jordan holmes
No, we should just ask corporations nicely.
dan friesen
They know what's right.
unidentified
Of course.
jordan holmes
That's why ATT is doing this race.
Wait, no.
I don't like that ATT does.
dan friesen
So these Lincoln Project people who went out and did this, this was a racist false flag.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
I mean, like, Alex has already called it that, but I just think that language is a little severe.
jordan holmes
What even is it?
alex jones
So the deep state globalist Democratic Party has been caught in a racial false flag with their operatives posing as white supremacist and saying they support the Republican Party.
That's just a standard thing they do continually, and they do not want you discussing it.
They want you to believe Jesse Smollett really got attacked.
They want you to believe that there's all these racial attacks around the country that in almost every case turn out to be fake.
dan friesen
Right.
So I think that if you are the Lincoln Project, you have a responsibility to understand the right-wing media ecosystem.
And doing something like this so transparently stunt, a PR stunt, is not going to really stick as a negative thing for young Ken.
But it will stick inside the right-wing media ecosystem and that echo chamber as a resounding example of something that had to do with fake racists.
And will be something that could be used to keep people from recognizing larger societal issues.
It'll keep people trapped in that information space that facilitates the racist violence that they believe is fake.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and when you say responsibility, that is true.
I would also say that if you expect people who have worked within the Republican Party strategy and planning and media situations for most of their lives, it would be hopelessly naive to think that they didn't already understand that.
dan friesen
Probably, but I don't know.
I don't know their hearts.
Anyway, I know Alex's heart, and that is that he loves Tucker, and he's very excited about it.
He's so excited about this special.
alex jones
Along comes Tucker Carlson.
With his big report coming out, three-part series on the plot against America, where the federal government openly is branding the American people in official policy.
I told you they were announcing that you were terrorists right when Biden snuck his way in.
They had press conferences saying anybody questioning elections is a terrorist.
Anybody questioning open borders is a terrorist.
And then now they say to go to the school board and say, we don't appreciate you teaching that white people are inherently bad, which is total Nazi crap.
I mean, saying a group is bad because of what race they are is Nazi stuff.
I mean, it's an original sin to be from a certain group.
That is pure Nazi stuff.
And it's all in the official U.S. government stratagem of the National Security Council put out by Joe Biden in June.
And look, I know I've got a lot of news here.
I got a lot of stuff to cover.
Why do I keep harping on this?
Because this is the war on terror 2.0.
This is where we're the enemy.
This is the great reset.
dan friesen
So Alex is actually selling himself incredibly short here by saying that he called this when Joe Biden got into office.
Alex has been claiming that the homeland security apparatus is about to be turned against white people for basically his entire career.
This is one of these instances where illustrating that Alex said this shit 15, 20 years ago really doesn't make him sound like a psychic.
Makes him sound like a broken record or a boy who's crying wolf in a really racist way.
It doesn't help his case that January 6th was a plot to turn counterterrorism against white people if you point out that he said the exact same thing about almost every other terrorist act you can think of.
Turning the power of the state against white people is why Alex claims they framed Timothy McVeigh for the Oklahoma City bombing.
It's why Alex spent so much time pretending that the FBI was going to frame a white Patsy for the Boston bombing.
If you go back to 9-11, that's even part of his conspiracy there.
Passing things like the Patriot Act only happened because the state wanted to make you afraid of foreign terrorists, but it was really about giving the state more power so they could eventually use it against white people or patriots, as Alex prefers to say that.
This is a preoccupation for Alex because he's a racist.
He's been beating the stupid drum for his entire career, and this is going to go on the mantle what he's doing right now.
It's just another time that he insisted the sky was falling.
And, you know, we just don't really have the perspective of hindsight because it's happening in the present.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
You know?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's just going to be another one of those.
jordan holmes
I really hope that that clip of Owen Schroer burning a flag and saying, fuck BLM is going to make it into that Patriot Purge documentary.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
No, I think it will because that's a really important context to the whole thing.
You know, if you realize that the people leading the rally are themselves saying fuck BLM and burning flags, you know, and Alex just talked about something, you know, like when you when you think that.
dan friesen
Oh, they should also play clips of Harrison's broadcast that day on.
unidentified
Oh.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, when the Capitol has fallen.
The Patriots have taken it.
Yeah, I think they're going to play that.
They've got to, because it's going to be a Patriot purge.
So we need to know exactly who the Patriots want to purge.
unidentified
Sure, sure, sure.
Right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And I'm sure they want to get rid of those people to make the Patriots look better, right?
unidentified
Yep.
alex jones
Yep.
dan friesen
Anyway, the system's freaked out.
And they are freaked out because Alex and Tucker, when they talk about these sorts of issues and they bring light to the globalist false flags, it hurts their ability to pull future false flags.
alex jones
Thank God that Tucker Carlson's hammering on it.
And you know that they've got the system scared because they are so freaked out when Carlson raises this, or I raise this, because it's the elephant in the room.
And what is the elephant in the room?
Just as sure as the sun came up this morning, the deep state is going to stage terror attacks in the next year before the midterms, just like they did Oklahoma City in 95 to make sure Clinton would be re-elected.
And the Democratic Party and Bill Clinton said he owed his reelection when he was 20 points behind to the Oklahoma City bombing.
Look it up.
Bill Clinton said he owed his 1996 re-election to Oklahoma City.
Type that in, click web, do a web search, do an image search.
You'll see the headlines.
He told the press corps on Air Force One that.
And they carried out that bombing.
The evidence is just incredible.
It would take hours to go over.
I've been involved in films, books, you name it.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So I don't think Clinton said exactly that, but if Alex wants to provide a specific citation, I'll look into it.
I suspect that this is just Alex putting a dramatic spin on the idea that Clinton saved his re-election with his response to the Oklahoma City bombing.
As the story goes, his numbers were terrible, and it wasn't looking good for him getting a second term.
Then the Murray building is attacked, and he shows up and gives an amazing speech that comforts Oklahoma and the nation in this horrific moment and encourages a path forward.
Many folks have said that that speech and Clinton's leadership after the bombing played a major role in his reelection.
And if Bill himself ever expressed feeling that way, I don't think that would be too surprising.
It doesn't prove that he did the bombing in order to get re-elected, though.
It's still this giant leap that Alex wants us to make, and it's fucking dumb.
jordan holmes
Right.
Yeah, I mean, do you really think Obama would have been elected without a massive financial crash?
But Obama's not going to be like, it's a good thing that financial crash happened.
Otherwise, I wouldn't be president.
That would be bad.
dan friesen
Even with all this being said, if you look at Gallup's approval ratings for Bill Clinton, you'll see that he was hovering around the mid-40% approval prior to the bombing.
46% the week before.
Then 51% for the next two weeks.
By June 5th, it was back down to 47% and around there consistently.
It didn't go back up into the 50s steadily until November.
And I just think that this is a little bit of mythologizing based on how good that speech was after and how that did really cement him as a strong leader.
jordan holmes
Like Robert F. Kennedy's speech on the day MLK died.
Or no, died is a different word.
On the day the government murdered MLK.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I think that more to the point about this stuff, too, like the system's not freaked out because you're going to blow some kind of false flag they're planning.
It's because this is going to get people hurt.
This inevitably leads people down a path that leads to violence.
And not good.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
So Alex likes to pretend that he does a lot of stuff behind the scenes.
He is a man with a hydra with many heads, as he likes to say sometimes.
And one of those heads apparently contributed to Tucker's documentary.
Oh.
Alex apparently did maybe some background work on it.
alex jones
So bigger than this documentary that we contributed to and that we gave Tucker footage for.
I'm going to leave it at that.
But it's powerful.
You're going to see it tomorrow.
I'm going to leave it at that.
And then obviously it'll be a week-long event here in InfoWars because we're all on the same team.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
alex jones
Dozen false flags.
We'll be playing clips of it.
We'll be analyzing it.
We'll be talking about it starting Tuesday morning.
dan friesen
It's so desperate to be associated with this.
And like the people saying, like, oh, my God, like, Tucker's just doing InfoWars shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They're saying that to malign and insult Tucker.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex is like, oh, they're saying that.
I better fucking use this to my advantage.
jordan holmes
It's probably good for me.
dan friesen
Yeah, probably good.
jordan holmes
Hitch my wagon to a horse.
dan friesen
And the reality for Alex is that he doesn't see himself in competition with people like Tucker or Glenn Beck.
You know, they're better than.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's because he's not.
dan friesen
Well, they're better than him at a certain job.
This is actually incredibly introspective on Alex's part.
I agree with him 100%.
jordan holmes
This is a watershed moment.
alex jones
They're both better talk show hosts and probably at the end of the day, smarter than I am when it comes to actual news.
jordan holmes
No, it's hard.
Not hard.
alex jones
But when it comes to firing people up and fighting tyranny and not backing down and having the Holy Spirit, I got more of it.
And I'm not trying to brag.
It's all glory to God.
But I'm here to get people fired up and to take action.
dan friesen
Yeah, I completely 100% agree with this.
People like Glenn Beck and Tucker are smarter and better hosts in a TV show.
Alex's job is not to be accurate.
He's not there to be a good broadcaster or host.
He's there to incite people.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's a sarcastic terrorist.
dan friesen
He's there to fuck with people's emotions, use information as a weapon, whether it's accurate or not, and incite them to action that he will then later call a false flag.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's very odd.
Basically, it's very odd that even he's like, my job is to incite them to action.
Now, obviously, whenever my fans do stuff, I have nothing to do with that.
How could you even claim that I said that?
dan friesen
That was a deep statement.
That's fucking false flag.
unidentified
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
jordan holmes
My job is to inspire people to nonviolent action.
dan friesen
Politically.
jordan holmes
Politically.
unidentified
Yeah, sure.
jordan holmes
All right, buddy.
dan friesen
What a dick.
But I do think that I think that's completely accurate.
jordan holmes
And it also unfortunately shows too much self-awareness to accept that he is unself-aware of so many other things.
alex jones
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That becomes an issue.
Yeah.
Also, here's an issue.
unidentified
What's that?
alex jones
I've told you this for 20-plus years because the first five, six years I didn't understand my calling.
I just know I was being pushed by God to do this.
But about 20 years ago, it was just like a voice in my head almost.
It was so strong and dreams.
And you are going to lay the path.
You're going to be like the archetype.
I'm not comparing myself to a prophet, but to like a John the Baptist in the wilderness.
And I never compared myself to that because 20 years ago, there was big party strategy documents came out and they said, Jones is the John the Baptist of the Tea Party, and he's the main engine our computer studies.
And our analysis has shown he's got to be stopped.
dan friesen
This is delusional nonsense.
But also, I don't think it was the Democratic Party documents said that Alex was a voice in the wilderness.
I think that was just a term that was used like in a rolling stone piece about it.
Like, I don't, I don't, I think that was just in an article.
jordan holmes
Yeah, probably.
dan friesen
I absolutely do not believe that that Democratic Party.
jordan holmes
It wasn't like party consensus.
We got a meeting together at the DNC.
dan friesen
Alex Jones is the wild prophet.
jordan holmes
No, it was somebody who was writing a profile added in that line.
It was like, we've moved on now.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
And yeah, I think that it's kind of fucked up to think that there's any reality to Alex's, even his own subjective perception of 20 years ago he had a vision and prophetic dreams that he was supposed to lay the groundwork for this holy battle.
Like, fuck this.
This is unhinged nonsense.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that pathological self-mythologizing that just like, you know, I was called to this.
Now, I didn't say anything or feel it at the age that I'm claiming that I did.
Right.
But now that I'm claiming it, it was definitely true.
dan friesen
And when I was on air back then, I definitely would never have said I said that shit.
People would think I was crazy.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
And now it's too late because everyone knows I'm crazy.
jordan holmes
I was nuts.
What are you going to say now?
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I won.
I beat you into submission.
dan friesen
Well, we have that perception of Alex, and maybe that's our position.
But there's another position, and that is Alex's.
And that is that he is the light of the world.
Him and his buddies are the only chance.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Yup.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
alex jones
We're now the light of the world.
This fight against the New World Lord and the fight against the great reset, as bad as America is, and as fallen as America is, and as corrupt and out of control as we are sometimes, we're still the best help this planet's got.
So that's why I thank you all for your support and keeping us on air because we're an incredibly historic time to be alive right now.
jordan holmes
We're actively destroying the world.
alex jones
And I use that as a political analogy.
I'm not comparing myself to John the Baptist.
I'm saying if our political movement is to defeat the satanic New World Order and the rest of it, is I've been the mad prophet out in the wilderness.
And that basically now is the spin they've engaged in.
Because that's how they see it as well.
Because that's really archetypally what it is.
Okay, we're going to go to break.
I'm going to come back with a Jim Acosta desperation.
When you hear him talking, it's Jeff Zucker.
It's AT ⁇ T.
It's the desperate, evil globalist corporations that thought they had America defeated, but are just now realizing that they have awakened the sleeping giant.
That is coming up.
And separately, I want to thank all the listeners and viewers for your support.
You're getting great products at the same time.
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dan friesen
Oh, exciting.
Wait, Black Friday comes early.
jordan holmes
Earlier and earlier.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
Fun.
dan friesen
I like the defensiveness about like, I wasn't trying to say I'm John the Baptist.
What's wrong with that?
jordan holmes
Compare yourself to John the Baptist.
John the Baptist was a bit player.
He did a little baptizing.
Maybe he did a little faith healing.
He wasn't that big of a deal.
dan friesen
But also, I like the defensiveness about that after he says that him and his buddies are the light of the world.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which John 8, 12 says, quote, I am the light of the world.
That's Jesus speaking.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, Jesus was a while back.
You know, he needs an assist.
dan friesen
I think that if one thing is more offensive than the other, it's that.
jordan holmes
Oh, sure.
A little light blasphemy is an issue, but I'm not.
I'm no John the Baptist.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because he didn't do that.
dan friesen
So Alex complains about Jim Acosta.
I'm going to skip a couple of these clips just because they're like, I'm like, I could teach a course on this.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
Oh, my God.
It's so Jim Acosta is the embodiment of fake news.
jordan holmes
I will take a course taught by Alex Jones.
dan friesen
I probably would audit it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, for sure.
I wouldn't pay for it.
That's true.
dan friesen
He's complaining about Jim Acosta, and he kind of forgets Brian Stelter's name, which is funny.
Vanny time while someone in his earpiece tells him Brian Stelter.
But this is the beginning of the review.
He finally gets to his Jim Acosta review.
And I will say, my review of this piece is dorky.
A bit too many shitty puns.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Maybe overwritten.
I think it might be overwhelming.
jordan holmes
Acosta's piece?
unidentified
Yes.
alex jones
Ah, yeah.
jordan holmes
That's not surprising.
alex jones
No.
jordan holmes
That's not surprising.
dan friesen
My review of Alex's review is he comes in hot.
jordan holmes
A little underwritten.
alex jones
Here is Acosta accosting the truth.
jordan holmes
Acosta.
jim acosta
Sticksman is releasing his big blockbuster movie on Monday.
While the kids have been calling for a sequel to Dune, Tucker thought they said Loon, as in Crazy as a Loon.
alex jones
All right, pause there.
As in Crazy and a Loon.
Oh, you're going to call us conspiracy theorist and crazy and white supremac.
No facts, no evidence, no proof, just loonatics, conspiracy theorist, white supremacist.
You're about to hear it.
Here it is.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Was he referencing something Tucker said about Dune?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
He was just trying to tie it into something that is kind of culturally relevant right now.
That's why it's overwritten.
jordan holmes
That's what he was trying.
That was the point he was trying to do.
dan friesen
He said that the kids are clamoring for a sequel to Dune, but Tucker thought they said Loon.
That's the joke.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
I thought that Tucker actually said that.
I thought that Tucker made that mistake.
That seems far more reasonable than an adult man writing that.
dan friesen
Think that you might not watch enough of these like 24-hour news channels.
And I don't know if Alex needed to pause it there to respond.
jordan holmes
How is it so hard to get a writing job in TV if Jim Acosta's got one?
Well, that's nuts.
dan friesen
He might not write all of this.
jordan holmes
Ah, he better.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think there's a staff.
jordan holmes
He should take credit for this, or whoever's on his staff should be fired.
dan friesen
So he continues with the Dune metaphor, also.
It's not just a one-off.
unidentified
False flags have happened in this country.
One of which may have been January 6th.
jim acosta
No Zendaya, darn.
But it is about global domination, I guess, in Tucker's eyes.
And yes, Tucker sees himself as kind of a Timothy Chalamet-style messiah.
But the comparisons end there as Tucker attempts to whitewash the white supremacists at the Capitol on January 6th.
And it gets more sinister than that.
Tucker is peddling some deeply dangerous propaganda that the insurrection was actually a false flag operation.
He has floated this before.
It's a ridiculous conspiracy theory that the government was really.
alex jones
Pause again.
It's a ridiculous conspiracy theory that the government was involved.
Just like it's been involved in many other big events and been caught doing it.
I mean, again, all he uses is hyperbole.
All he uses is words like stupid, dumb, conspiracy theorist, white supremacist.
That's all he's got.
dan friesen
Oh, Alex is complaining about people name-calling.
jordan holmes
I mean, I can't imagine what would happen if he said something about the way Alex looked being similar to a demon.
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
So I bet he would be up in arms about somebody who would throw away basic human decency like that and simply claim, based upon appearance, someone looks like a demon.
dan friesen
Alex would never sink to that level.
jordan holmes
No.
He's above the fray.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Call people Ren Fields.
jordan holmes
Oh, man, no.
That's frankly offensive and a little anti-Semitic.
I'm going to go there.
dan friesen
So look, according to Jim Acosta, there's no false flags.
There are some other flags.
jim acosta
But there are plot holes big enough for Alex Jones to drive a monster truck through.
Now, as for flags, there were plenty of Trump flags and Confederate flags on display at the insurrection.
alex jones
Let's just pause again.
Yeah, nothing wrong with the Confederate flag.
It's a symbol of Southern heritage, and it's a battle flag.
And you guys are the ones that say it's racist.
Well, it's not.
God is there.
There might have been one rebel flag for every thousand American flags.
So you're now demonizing a million people that contested an election because there was a few Johnny Reb flags there.
That's all he's got to claim this was a giant white supremacist event.
Let's continue.
dan friesen
I don't think that's all he's got.
jordan holmes
No, there's so much.
dan friesen
Because the next clip has something else.
jim acosta
Republican Congressman Denver Riggleman, who is working for the January 6th Committee, has said at least seven white nationalist groups were involved in the rioting.
Forget Universal Pre-K, some of these guys at the Capitol wanting Universal KKK.
alex jones
I opposing you.
The KKK, all this even Texas Monthly to reports on it decades ago.
Almost every KKK bus they have, them planning violence, is led by the FBI.
And the FBI goes and creates the Klan group and then advertises and then pays short bus type folks, literally, to be part of them.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
I mean, that's so, of course, there were seven white supremacist groups that came there working with the Southern Poverty Law Center, ADL, and the Democratic Party to do that.
That's their M.O. Let's continue.
dan friesen
So this is kind of how you know Alex is riffing this and kind of freestyling is because he was like, oh, yeah, he's mad at the Confederate flag.
That's all he's got.
And then immediately there's a point about how the January 6th committee has shown that there were at least seven white supremacist groups or white nationalist groups.
And in order to be like, uh-oh, that's exactly counter to what I was saying.
Now, my rebuttal is that all the KKK are fake.
They're all the FBI.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
So he has to shift his sort of his response and his rebuttal in order to suit whatever new thing pops up.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
And he just hinges on whatever thing he thinks he can.
Whatever thing is like a hold on the rock.
alex jones
Right.
jordan holmes
That's right.
dan friesen
He paused it after the loon instead of dude.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's like, oh, I can riff on that one.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I can toss a little bit off on that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Finding Nemo is popular amongst the kids, but Trump is finding Nero.
Look, the Roman Emperor.
Who fiddled while Rome burned.
dan friesen
Right.
There's no.
jordan holmes
It actually is kind of fun.
You want to try one?
dan friesen
No.
Oh, come on.
I get the enjoyment in it.
It's a little fun.
jordan holmes
You know what?
I take back all my criticisms.
This is great.
dan friesen
This is going to be your version of my clips where Alex says damn.
jordan holmes
I know.
I'm sorry.
It suddenly became incredibly enjoyable.
dan friesen
I get it.
And I think I hope you have a lot of fun with it.
jordan holmes
I'm not doing it anymore.
I'm not doing it anymore.
dan friesen
Please feel free to.
But the thing, I'm never going to go to bet and defend that style of writing for a newspaper.
jordan holmes
I'm not expecting you to.
dan friesen
It is very cringeworthy.
jordan holmes
You're talking about an overthrow of the United States fucking government.
Like you're reading a puff piece about the cat of the week.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Totally, it's inappropriate.
jordan holmes
It's a little bit problematic.
Yeah.
unidentified
Dune, more like Lune.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
You got me.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Alex, ooh, man, this creeped me out.
alex jones
Tucker Carlson is not a Republican.
Tucker Carlson is not a Democrat.
He's an American.
I got his psycho.
unidentified
Loon.
alex jones
He really wants to defeat the New World Order.
And he grew up in an establishment family, but a family of people that were American patriots.
jordan holmes
Rich.
alex jones
Rich.
He projected his family's own goodness onto the rest of the world.
And then he later learned he was naive.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
The world wasn't nice like his dad.
Or stepmom.
unidentified
Let's see.
jordan holmes
Let's hear about his dad.
alex jones
First brother.
There were bad people in charge.
unidentified
Sure.
alex jones
How do I know that?
Well, Tucker's told me that to my face.
But I already knew his story.
unidentified
It's like so many other people, including mine.
alex jones
You got to stop being naive, ladies and gentlemen.
We've all been there.
You got to admit how much trouble we're in.
We got to recognize who our enemies are.
And stop listening to them.
Stop even debating them.
But here I am.
Breaking my own rule here.
unidentified
Really?
alex jones
And that is giving attention to the system.
dan friesen
Alex didn't break his.
He was breaking his own rule because CNN said his name.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's spending half his show on this because CNN said his name.
jordan holmes
Every time anyone says his name on Twitter for a while.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's so annoying.
jordan holmes
He breaks everything.
Nope, we're not talking about anything in the news.
Here's what's in Alex Jones news.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
This is going to be profitable and self-aggrandizing.
So here we go.
jordan holmes
Here it is.
This is what I'm here for.
dan friesen
The other thing, too, though, is that Alex is doing this weird soft talk ramble about how great Tucker is and his family and all this.
Alex will be like, how do I know?
Because he told me.
I think that anytime Alex reports on something based on something somebody else has told him, you should know that he's an idiot and he's gullible as hell.
jordan holmes
He'll believe anything.
dan friesen
He's the guy who hung out with Steve Pieczenik for like 20 years.
He's the guy who got duped by Roger Stone.
This is not a guy who has a good bullshit radar.
jordan holmes
Do you know how I know that rich people are our betters and should be in charge and are absolutely looking out for us?
dan friesen
I'm going to guess you're not going to say because rich people told you that.
jordan holmes
I mean, it actually is because rich people told me that.
dan friesen
Oh, okay.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and I believe them.
How could you not believe them, Dan?
Sure.
How could they lie?
You can't get rich by lying.
dan friesen
Well, based on what they say, they're better people, so they wouldn't lie.
jordan holmes
They can't lie.
They physically can't lie.
They're too rich for it.
dan friesen
Well, actually, interestingly, you bring that up because Alex also is incapable of lying.
unidentified
Oh, you know one thing, folks.
alex jones
If I ain't shooting you straight, it means I'm dead.
All I can do is shoot straight.
I can't even control myself when I don't want to tell the truth.
unidentified
I basically can't even lie.
alex jones
Decades ago, I could tell little lies.
I can't even do it now.
dan friesen
You physically can't lie.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
Why did I think parody is even possible?
dan friesen
It's not.
jordan holmes
Why would I?
Why would I?
What kind of idiot am I?
Charlie Brown, Lucy, it's all happening every time.
dan friesen
You're running at that football.
jordan holmes
Oh, I'm going to get it someday.
dan friesen
So, also, something that keeps happening, much like you getting duped by trying to be trying to be over the top.
Yeah, it doesn't work.
alex jones
Nope.
dan friesen
Another thing that keeps happening is that whenever Alex breaks his own rule and does these coverage things where he pops up in it, he gets kind of bored once they get past the part where his name comes up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, I mean, it's not about him anymore.
dan friesen
And that kind of happens here, too.
alex jones
All right, so just go back to Acosta.
It's hard to listen to.
And you just said, oh, this has got plot holes big enough you can drive an Alex Jones-sized monster truck through.
Says the guy with no viewers and no support, who's the definition of fake news.
I know the plot holes are your claim.
dan friesen
He just kind of runs out of gas because he's not involved anymore.
jordan holmes
Well, eventually, your only argument to the content is, I know you are, but what am I?
So, you know, once you've lost that personal grievance, you don't have it.
dan friesen
Yeah, and so you try to make the impersonal personal.
And here is, I think this is the last clip actually of the Acosta coverage.
tucker carlson
You don't see people hiding bombs or using bayonets or firing weapons, trying to take over the country in an insurrection.
You see people walking around and taking pictures.
They don't look like terrorists.
They look like tourists.
And all of them, by the way, are American.
jim acosta
Tucker has already described the insurrectionists as tourists.
So they were just tourists while also carrying out a false flag attack on the Capitol.
Sorry, you can't have it both ways.
alex jones
So pause again.
You can't have it both ways, you little liar.
Where you take a 10-second clip out of a 45-minute show he did and then misrepresent it?
I watched those shows.
jordan holmes
He could do something like that.
alex jones
Hell, some of my reporters were on those shows.
Anybody go back and pull those up?
He said a very small group of people got roped into a riot, and then the police were ordered to stand down.
And so then, when that small group went in, then the people behind him didn't know what was happening.
I was there and got waved in by the police who didn't want any more fights.
And so it's those 600 people that have been arrested.
Over 400 were nonviolent.
Some of them are still in jail in solitary confinement.
That's what Tucker was talking about.
So he's saying the feds tried a false flag.
They tried to make this much more violent than it was.
They provocateur groups on record.
CNN paid a guy to go lead antifan, posing as Trump supporters to try to burn the place down.
It's all on record.
CNN.
dan friesen
Incidentally, someone did plant two bombs at the RNC and DNC headquarters the night before January 6th.
So, you know, if you don't see people with bombs or bayonets in the videos at the Capitol, you know, you might want to look at the surveillance videos that the FBI has released because there you'll see some bombs.
jordan holmes
Also, I do appreciate that they are absolutely tourists, and the police stood aside because they were tired of fighting.
You know how when you go on vacation and you want to go to a big monument or something like that, and you're like, I'm just a tourist, and then you fight the cops into submission in order to see it.
Yeah, because you can't pay the fee or whatever.
And what if it's closed?
You got to beat up enough cops to where they quit because you're a tourist.
dan friesen
Yeah, when we went to Hawaii, we had to fight so many cops in order to get those hotels.
jordan holmes
Oh my god, when we went to the palace, we beat the shit out of 50 cops.
dan friesen
So many cops.
jordan holmes
It was amazing.
dan friesen
Ridiculous.
Also, the Antifa leader that Alex is claiming CNN paid to go incite things, that's Jaden X or John Sullivan.
CNN did pay him for some footage that he got inside the Capitol, which is actually the exact same thing that Alex's staff did.
If this satisfies the claim that CNN paid him to incite a riot, then so did Alex.
Alex is trying to claim that he had like 40 Antifa men behind him to burn down the Capitol.
The story has gotten a bit out of control.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, whenever you don't have a government willing to do anything to correct a violent overthrow of the government, they're going to make up stories and then try it again.
dan friesen
Well, actually, they did do something.
And Alex thinks they did a lot in order to punish these people.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
alex jones
You know, you can't have it both ways, Tucker.
Is it a false flag or was it just people that were tourists?
Well, the people that got roped in outside and waved in, they are innocent.
Guys that pooped on Pelosi's desk or drank her beer.
Okay, you gave Democrats charges dropped for burning down federal buildings.
I don't think that's right.
But if you let them go for burning down federal buildings, you got to let somebody go for pooping on Pelosi's desk, especially when he's been in solitary confinement for eight months.
I think that sentence served, don't you?
I don't think he'll be crapping on Pelosi's desk anytime soon.
dan friesen
Okay.
No one shit on Nancy Pelosi's desk on January 6th.
jordan holmes
I wish I could have.
dan friesen
What happened is that a ton of people who stormed the Capitol pissed and shit wherever they wanted and left a huge mess behind.
In addition to that, a guy named Derek Jancart, who was part of the storming of the building, claimed that in his defense, he never considered shitting on Nancy Pelosi's desk, although people were chanting for someone to do so.
jordan holmes
I remember.
dan friesen
And that's where the story.
And someone also, I think it was a little bit before this, but September 2020, if I recall correctly, some YouTuber shit on Nancy Pelosi's driveway.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so I think a lot of this just gets mixed up and conflated.
jordan holmes
Yeah, why?
dan friesen
So Alex has turned it into some guy shit on Nancy Pelosi's desk and has been in solitary confinement for eight months.
jordan holmes
Print the legend, buddy.
Print the legend.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Listen, if you shit on Nancy Pelosi's desk, you do get some respect from me.
You do.
dan friesen
Well, it didn't happen.
jordan holmes
As long as you don't try and overthrow the country and you shit on Nancy Pelosi's desk, great.
alex jones
You win.
dan friesen
So, Alex, there's actually one more clip here, I believe, in relation to the Acosta Peace.
And it has to do with Acosta rightly pointing out that, hey, guys, Trump was president when that happened.
jordan holmes
Well.
dan friesen
And Alex is like, well, he wasn't.
jim acosta
Good White House visitor records, which is a reminder that, oh, yeah, this alleged false flag operation happened when Trump was in office.
alex jones
Oh, so pause again.
Trump was completely cut off.
No one was even giving him any advice.
He couldn't get his executive orders implemented.
They threw him in the trash.
99% of his staff had already quit or left because they were being threatened by people like Acosta.
So now Trump was in charge.
No, Trump asked for 10,000 National Guard.
The Democratic Party refused them two weeks before January 6th.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
His staff was quitting because they were being threatened by Jim McCarthy.
jordan holmes
Totally, totally.
dan friesen
So Alex's claim that Trump tried to request troops but was blocked is actually the exact opposite of the truth.
From a breakdown in the Military Times, you can get a sense of the very precise timeline of this.
On December 31st, 2020, D.C. Mayor Mariel Bowser extended a request and an invitation to the National Guard to come help support local police in the district.
Several hundred troops did respond and they were posted in DC, but they couldn't work with the Capitol Police.
Specifically, they were not allowed to work on federal property without approval from the Capitol Police, who are outside the jurisdiction of Mayor Bowser.
jim acosta
Right.
dan friesen
And they did not approve that.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That was a federal issue.
That is Trump's purview.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
If the Capitol Police had appropriately coordinated with local law enforcement, those National Guard troops would have been there.
They failed to do so.
And, you know, I guess the buck doesn't stop anywhere, according to Alex.
jordan holmes
That's something that, like, my partner stops over there.
My partner and I watched all of Kitchen Nightmares and 24 Hours to Hell.
I'm back, the Gordon Ramsey show, where he goes and he finds small businesses that are struggling and they're about to fall apart, and he tries to help them out.
You know, love that shit.
I love it when a business gets helped.
And it's very funny to me that they can make a lesson out of it.
dan friesen
It's a staffer.
jordan holmes
Yeah, unless it's that.
It's very funny to me that they can make a show about it because every episode is essentially the exact same thing.
Gordon Ramsey goes in there and he says, Hey, do you want to run a good restaurant?
Professionalism and accountability.
That's literally it.
dan friesen
Generally.
jordan holmes
Ultimately, professionalism and accountability.
And it's so obvious once you just hear him continue repeating that.
Like, oh, does somebody continually blame other people for shit?
Then they're probably the problem.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
There's a trend.
Yeah.
Sometimes things are other people's fault.
unidentified
They can't.
dan friesen
And there are other people's problems.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
When it's constantly somebody else's problem.
jordan holmes
When it's always somebody else's fault.
dan friesen
It's suspicious.
jordan holmes
When you're the president of the fucking United States and it's somebody else's fault, guess what?
dan friesen
You're the problem.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
You might be the problem.
jordan holmes
You might be the problem.
alex jones
So, Alex.
jordan holmes
People have been enjoying Jeff Foxworthy's.
Okay, I'm not going to do it.
Alex.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
I don't want you to finish that sentence.
Alex has gotten sort of less interested in this Jim Acosta piece because, again, he is only mentioned briefly.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Now it's really more just about Tucker.
jordan holmes
It's boring.
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex gets distracted by big COVID news.
alex jones
Okay.
I've got some big COVID-19 news, but I tend to start the shows with that.
So I'm going to end the broadcast next segment with it.
Your big news is broke.
Infowars.
unidentified
The Alex Jones show.
alex jones
Because there is a war on for your mind.
Vaccinated Gin Saki test positive for COVID-19.
And I got a big British study saying you're more likely to get COVID-19 or be hospitalized or die.
dan friesen
So, yeah, Jen Saki, White House Press.
jordan holmes
I assume she's dead now.
dan friesen
She got COVID.
jordan holmes
It was tragic when she died.
dan friesen
I don't know if this is big breaking news.
I mean, it's news, I guess.
And also, that British thing is just that Greg Reese report we talked about in a previous episode that's total bullshit.
Yeah.
But yeah, great.
Weird noises Alex is making.
jordan holmes
I am a big fan of how you can tell devil worshipers by how they make these noises whenever they come in contact with you.
unidentified
They're always like, right.
dan friesen
They jump through portals and say, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's so crazy how you can tell when someone's a demon by the weird noises they make.
dan friesen
He was just doing a didgeridoo.
jordan holmes
It did seem like he was trying to make the sound of the music, but he did what he did.
dan friesen
He's trying to make it sound like a voo-voozeo fucking didgery-doo.
See, that's my version of the Jim Acosta.
jordan holmes
See, but that's good.
That's the problem.
That's the problem.
It wasn't a bad pun about something terrible in pop culture.
dan friesen
My man standing out here sounded like he go.
So Alex has some claims about Jim Acosta about how bad he is, and they're not accurate.
alex jones
All right, let's get back to Acosta.
He is such a monster.
He runs around events we're at trying to get our reporters thrown out.
He doesn't do it.
Personally, he runs around.
He's just a horrible person.
He's right in league with the CNN that said Trump took out the Martin Luther King Jr. bust.
Remember that five years ago?
First day Trump's in the White House.
Of course, it wasn't true.
CNN reporter stood in front of it to shoot the video to be able to say it.
dan friesen
See, he's trying to say that CNN did that and that Acosta's in league with that.
I don't know how it is necessarily something that Jim Acosta did.
Also, another problem is that the reporting on that story, that actually wasn't accurate.
And they had to do a very sincere retraction on, and they did because of this journalistic ethics.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's that ability.
dan friesen
Yeah, that reporting on that, that wasn't done by CNN.
That was actually done by Zeke Miller for Time magazine.
So Alex is mixing those things up because who cares?
jordan holmes
It doesn't really matter.
dan friesen
Not really.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
So one of the things that I think is really troubling in the recent past was that clip from a turning point USA meeting event where someone asked Charlie Kirk.
jordan holmes
When's it time to start killing?
dan friesen
When's the time to start using the guns?
How many elections are we going to let them steal?
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
You know, that kind of thing.
jordan holmes
You've whipped us up into this point.
Now give us the answer that you so clearly are teasing us with because you're trying to grift, but I'm not smart enough to figure that out.
So here we are.
dan friesen
So Alex is very predictable in his discussion of this.
He says that the person who asked the question was a plant.
jordan holmes
Sure.
unidentified
Are all the people who've called him asking the same questions, plant?
dan friesen
Obviously.
jordan holmes
Obviously.
Apologies.
dan friesen
So this guy was a plant, and then Charlie Kirk answered the question well, but Alex would have gone a little bit differently.
He would have also added some incitement to it.
alex jones
Now you've got this plant in the audience saying, when do we get to use the guns?
I love how it's always a guy that isn't actually going to use the guns telling us we need to use the guns.
jordan holmes
No, he was asking when.
alex jones
And Kirk says, oh, they want to set us up.
That's their plan.
That's their overall agenda.
They can't win an intellectual battle.
They want to have a physical one, which is totally true.
Bravo.
Kudos to Kirk for getting it.
But I would have continued, which Kirk didn't, explaining, hey, have you seen the Democrats on MSNBC saying we got to take out the mother-effing white people and that we've got to kill Trump and we got to kill all these people?
They're the ones a thousand times more than us calling for violence.
dan friesen
So I would have, in response to a question of when is it time to start shooting people, I would have thrown in a bunch more stuff to fuck with people's emotions and make them scared and feel like they're in danger.
So maybe they'd be more likely to use guns while at the same time I say, ah, it's a trick that they want to trick you into being offensively violent, but also anything you do violent is defensive because they're the ones who are super violent.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
See, Charlie, what you're misunderstanding about answering that question is that the time was, I guess, when Timothy McVay bombed the okay homeless city.
We should have been using guns from the beginning, but you can't tell people that.
So you need to say it without saying it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You should just say now, politically.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
That's exactly what you should have said.
That's what Alex wants you to say.
dan friesen
So Alex comes from a tradition of deep anti-communism, of course.
All of his heroes and role models are dum-dums.
Right.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Cold War holdouts.
jordan holmes
And even anti-communism as another metaphor for, or as another euphemism for just race.
dan friesen
Right, right.
When I say anti-communist, I don't mean someone who's opposed to communism.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean anti-communist as sort of a tradition that has tendrils all over the place.
Right.
Conspiratorial mindset, definitely that links up with all kinds of historical frameworks, be it blood libel, be it the protocols of the elders of Zion, all these sorts of conceptions about the new world order, the Illuminati, all this, which uses opposition to communism as a mask, essentially.
And the actual work that they do is against social welfare programs, against rights for people in minorities.
jordan holmes
We shouldn't even call them anti-communists.
unidentified
Just call them the oppressors.
dan friesen
I think you might be able to do a little better than that.
But I do think that anti-communist could be something of a misleading name.
And I do recognize that.
I've thought about that for a while in terms of how I frame things, how I phrase things.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, anti-communists.
dan friesen
I think there's a more precise term.
I agree with you.
jordan holmes
Right.
I wasn't criticizing your use of communists, of course.
But yeah, that is just such a great, brilliant, and accepted way for them to get away with saying we're white supremacists and everybody just being like, well, they come from an anti-communist tradition of just like, yeah, they come from we should blacklist the Jews tradition.
They come from what black people shouldn't be allowed to drink from the same water fountains tradition.
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
Well, but only not because they don't want black people to drink from the water fountain.
It's states' rights.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, no, no, state's rights.
It's the rebel flag.
unidentified
There's nothing wrong with the rebel flag, Dan.
dan friesen
Right.
So anyway, I bring this up because one of the hallmarks, particularly of the early anti-communist folks, is severe red baiting.
Yeah.
Fear of China and Russia.
jordan holmes
Easy.
Easy stuff.
dan friesen
Apparently, though, Alex is one of these neo-anti-communists.
jordan holmes
I love Russia and China.
dan friesen
It's kind of weird.
alex jones
Yeah.
But let me just get this out there right now.
The corrupt power structure globally is beyond fascist.
unidentified
They're an absolute joke.
alex jones
And they've sold out American power to build up communist China.
I would have gone with corporations to dominate the globe.
But now the communist Chinese have double-crossed them.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
And are saying, we're going to have three children.
We're not going to depopulate.
And we're going to start moving to a more capitalist model.
We're not going to be communist like you want.
And we're not going to feminize our men and screw you.
jordan holmes
I thought you were mad about the genocide.
alex jones
And he's so damn evil.
I mean, I guess all he could was move back towards the other direction.
And then you've got Russia out from under the New World Order.
They got their own problems, not romanticizing that, but they're definitely not Hollywood-level evil.
You got all that going on.
You got the Midwest waking up in the South and all over the world, all over the country.
People on the East Coast are waking up and leaving, and people on the West Coast.
So we're winning hearts and minds.
That's why they're coming in with a global government, a world ID, a vaccine passport, carbon taxes, because they're getting their ass handed to them.
Now, I've learned how the power structure works, not just studying history books, but living it.
And so just because I'm here talking about how we're starting to win the fight doesn't mean we're anywhere close to being out of the woods right now.
dan friesen
I thought we were already dead.
I mean, it's just, it's disorienting.
And then also just the framework that he lives in now where like China and Russia are the good ones.
It's bizarre.
It's really bizarre.
jordan holmes
It is kind of like what he thought was supposed to happen with 9-11 coming.
You know, like they're making you afraid of foreign enemies to bring that home.
And the anti-communist tradition is to make you afraid of foreign enemies.
And now you bring it back home and you should just be afraid of anyone in the world in a densely populated urban center.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah, there's something to that.
So Alex plays a clip to end the show, but before he does, he wants you to know that the globalists, the same people who ran Obama, they run Biden.
jordan holmes
Sure.
But I mean, they would have to, right?
dan friesen
There's a distinction between the two.
jordan holmes
That's nice.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Or is it?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
The same people that control Obama are the ones that are in control of Biden right now.
But I can tell you, Obama, because he's so evil and so hateful and hates America so much, he's actually at the Star Chamber tribunal level.
He's actually in there with the top globalists, less than 100 of them.
Obama is at the table.
Biden is not at the table.
Well, that's Obama.
And Bill Gates.
And Warren Buffett.
And all those people are at the table.
We've gotten the documents.
And they decided the world belongs to them.
And they've all got a lust to literally depopulate you and your family.
And they've cooked up viruses thousands of times worse than COVID-19.
They're ready to release.
So are you going to sit here naively and let them march you to the plank?
Or are you going to wake up and wake others up and say, hell no, I'm not going down your rat hole?
dan friesen
Looks like Alex is doing his job of trying to incite people.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds about right.
dan friesen
So I'd like those documents about the people at the table.
jordan holmes
I would like exactly how big.
All I want, what are the dimensions of this table?
dan friesen
It's got to be huge.
unidentified
It's got to be huge.
jordan holmes
100 people?
dan friesen
And people with big old egos.
jordan holmes
Oh, huge egos.
dan friesen
Yeah, they're not going to be sitting cramped at that table.
jordan holmes
And they're definitely not going to be eating with only one fork.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I would like those documents because I've heard a lot of different things about the relative position of Bill Gates over the course of my time listening to Alex.
jordan holmes
Middleman, gang of 12.
He's been everything.
dan friesen
Yeah, how does this work with the team of 12?
jordan holmes
Yeah, what's the team of 12 doing?
dan friesen
Is that a group within the 100?
jordan holmes
It would have to.
Is it a splinter group or is it even, is there another hierarchy within the hierarchy?
dan friesen
So I guess there's like 88 people who are at the main table.
Right.
That's like the kids' table.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then the adults sit.
The council of 12 sits over there.
Jesus.
Right.
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And the people who are at the kids' table, they don't get wine.
jordan holmes
No, that's just.
See, this is what I'm saying.
Biden doesn't get a seat at the table.
That's unfair.
You know, the kids don't get wine.
That's unfair.
Does Obama get to tell jokes?
dan friesen
And Obama got to this table of 100 just because he hates America so much?
jordan holmes
When, when?
unidentified
When?
jordan holmes
When?
dan friesen
I would argue that there's a lot of people who hate America way more than him who aren't at that table.
jordan holmes
I would argue I should be at that table if that is the prerequisite.
dan friesen
Criterion.
You're in the running.
So anyway, yeah, I told you this is not like the best Alex show, but there are things in there that merit discussion, and there's deeply racist undertones throughout a good part of it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
The quiet part was said loud several times.
dan friesen
Well, here's the loud part.
alex jones
How Hitler.
unidentified
Anyway, we will be back for another episode on Friday.
dan friesen
But until then, Jordan.
jordan holmes
We have a website.
dan friesen
That's right, we do.
jordan holmes
It's KnowledgeFight.com.
dan friesen
And it's please don't kill your family.
jordan holmes
Oh, I'm sorry.
dan friesen
Just use it to don't kill your family.
jordan holmes
I apologize.
dan friesen
Please don't kill your family.
unidentified
I'm glad that they remembered that we're very polite.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Also, we're on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at KnowledgeUnderscoreFight.
Not GoTo-Bed, Jordan.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
alex jones
You're a traitor, Dan.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a fish Tim Color.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
alex jones
I love your work.
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