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Oct. 11, 2021 - Knowledge Fight
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#604: October 5, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on the deteriorating situation on The Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex makes up a giant story about a video one of his interns found on C-SPAN, interviews a mega-creep, and announces that he's going to have to sell his tank. Citations

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
15:22
d
dan friesen
41:50
j
jordan holmes
21:01
r
rick bright
05:01
Appearances
a
anthony fauci
04:43
t
ted nugent
04:26
Clips
b
barack obama
00:39
d
dr richard bartlett
00:08
m
mike cernovich
00:34
s
steve quayle
00:02
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan, nah.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
unidentified
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Dan?
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot?
dan friesen
My bright spot today is I was able to partake in over the weekend.
I was invited over to friend of the show, friends of the show, Marty DeRosa and Sarah Shockey's house.
jordan holmes
Oh, you got an invite, huh?
dan friesen
I got an invite to go over and watch the GCW, the Game Changer Wrestling pay-per-view.
No, no, that's fine.
Headlined by Nick Gage versus Jon Moxley in a death match.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Which is definitely not my thing.
jordan holmes
You don't like deathmatches?
No!
What's wrong with deathmatches?
They're gross!
Are they, like, real...
dan friesen
Bloody!
jordan holmes
Oh, that's no good.
Why?
Do people like that?
dan friesen
Yeah, apparently some people enjoy that.
jordan holmes
But you know that they're not supposed to bleed, because they're good.
dan friesen
But this whole thing is, like, I didn't understand this fully until kind of, like, watching this match and sort of putting the pieces together.
It's basically, like, with deathmatches, it's like, alright, there's some glass over here.
I'm gonna throw you through that.
Then there's a sharp thing over here.
You're going to throw me through that.
It's just that over and over again.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's very weird.
I don't enjoy it.
jordan holmes
It's competitive, running while innocent bystanders are carrying pained glass everywhere you go.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's not my thing.
I don't enjoy it.
I'm not even the biggest fan of pro wrestling, but when I am, it's not that stuff.
Yeah, and there's a bit of blood.
The rest of the pay-per-view was kind of, like, tame.
Like, I expected there to be more death matches.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because that was, like, sort of their thing.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
There was almost no blood or anything throughout the whole proceedings.
jordan holmes
Were they good?
Like, the matches were good?
dan friesen
There was varying quality.
Some of it was alright.
The audience was kind of weird.
I don't know.
They were a little bit low energy.
unidentified
But the death match itself, here's my review.
jordan holmes
Disappointing.
dan friesen
Underwhelming.
jordan holmes
Not enough, Dad!
dan friesen
I was expecting...
jordan holmes
Only one man should have left!
dan friesen
It was disgusting.
Like, they were bleeding around, and it's like, ugh, why would you do this?
But, like, I wasn't shocked.
There was nothing, like, really exciting about it.
jordan holmes
No, I saw The Wrestler 20 years ago.
It was great.
dan friesen
Right, but when you're doing these things, and, like, I know that you don't know who they are necessarily, but, like, Nick Gage and Jon Moxley are huge names in this sort of arena.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
So the two of them competing for the championship belt in a death match.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
The stakes are high.
Like, they need to deliver something that's like, wow, someone died.
Right.
And I did not see that.
You didn't feel it.
I was very bored.
jordan holmes
And grossed out.
dan friesen
And grossed out.
jordan holmes
That's not great.
You don't want to be bored and grossed out.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
So one of the things that Nick Gage does is he cuts people with a pizza cutter.
Like one of those circular pizza cutters.
He cuts their forehead.
jordan holmes
No, and he can stop whenever he wants.
dan friesen
I would enjoy it if he did.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Jon Moxley got a pizza cutter early in the match and was cutting Nick Gage, right?
Right?
jordan holmes
Don't say those words and act like I'm supposed to act like that's fine.
A grown adult man went and got a pizza cutter to cut another grown adult man's face with it.
dan friesen
They agreed to do this in a match.
jordan holmes
Exactly, yes.
All in good fun.
dan friesen
It's for competition.
jordan holmes
For money.
dan friesen
Nick Gage did not bleed all that much from the cuts.
Then later on in the match, Nick got the pizza cutter and was cutting Moxley.
And I noticed that his technique was different and that he used his thumb to aid.
And I was like, I should not be noticing that during a death match.
That's how bored I am.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's too much awareness.
That's too much awareness.
dan friesen
So anyway, it's not for me.
But it was a fun time, and it was really nice to see Marty and Sarah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is great.
I hope someday they invite me somewhere, too.
dan friesen
You couldn't have come anyway.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
You were exposed or predisposed that evening.
What's the term?
jordan holmes
Indisposed.
dan friesen
That's it.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Well, but that's what makes it more fun whenever you complain about not getting an invite that you couldn't go to anyways.
Everybody knows we're having a great time, and I'm an asshole.
dan friesen
Yeah, so what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot, Dan, is why I was in...
My partner and I celebrated her birthday at the casino, as we talked about earlier.
It was very fun.
Sure.
dan friesen
Lights.
jordan holmes
Casino parts, terrible.
Don't like them.
There's a lot of slot machines, and I don't understand them whatsoever.
dan friesen
There's so many of them, and people just sitting there smoking, pulling it.
jordan holmes
Bananas!
Bananas!
I'm walking over there, and my favorite part, though, was there was a no-smoking area, which, coming from Chicago, I was like, oh, how quaint!
There's a no-smoking area that's very small, and you go over there, and you see those are the saddest, worst slot machines they have.
They're all from 1965.
They look like the cash registers from 1940s, you know, like that kind of thing.
And it was so clear that they're just like...
We can still do this here.
There's nowhere else we can do this.
This is a man with a bone to pick.
Do you know what I mean?
dan friesen
We can sit and smoke and drink really bad free cocktails.
jordan holmes
Everywhere else we go.
Everywhere else we go, people who don't smoke are like, you can't smoke here.
Here, though, you go in the corner.
dan friesen
It's great.
It's such a bummer.
The whole vibe of a casino is a bummer.
After you mentioned this on our last episode, my buddy Berger, who I used to go to the Isle of Capri Casino with, messaged me and it reminded me of some things.
And we were talking about it.
It's like, yeah, the casino's really depressing, but what's worse is the dog track.
jordan holmes
Ooh, you can't go to a dog track.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
No, you can't go to a dog track.
dan friesen
One time when Nicky Gifts was in town, I went along with him to the dog track.
Yes, I remember.
It was so sad.
jordan holmes
I remember.
You were texting.
That's how I remember how bad the dog track is.
And I don't remember shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, so for your partner's next birthday, go to the doctor.
If you really want to plumb the depths of just human desperation.
jordan holmes
Listen up, my dearest heart, I want to go further down the rabbit hole.
dan friesen
Let's see how much our psyches can take.
jordan holmes
Yes, yes.
This is going to make us stronger for the apocalypse.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think I was texting you incessantly because I couldn't leave.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because it's so far away from town.
jordan holmes
You couldn't go anywhere.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we've got an episode to go over.
We're going to be talking about October 5th, 2021 Blackjack.
jordan holmes
Ooh, I jumped the gun on that one.
You hadn't finished the...
dan friesen
You know, we need a photo finish on that.
We need to see who exactly...
This one's going to be up for review.
jordan holmes
I do like if eventually we ever get big enough, there will be people combing through the audio files looking at exactly like, oh, no, no, no.
On October 22nd, Dan lost.
dan friesen
Like the Zabruder film.
Just going back through frame by frame of our audio.
jordan holmes
We've got to stay low before people can...
dan friesen
There's going to be Sabermetrics.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally.
dan friesen
Jordan's value over replacement in terms of Sabermetrics.
jordan holmes
Hey, what can we say?
It's Moneyball.
dan friesen
So, this episode is fun.
Okay.
Alex has the smoking gun of smoking guns.
jordan holmes
Is that the smoking gun that shot another smoking gun and killed it?
dan friesen
I mean, yeah, that would make sense.
It's like the gate of gates.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
jordan holmes
And it worked out well the last time, so I think you should go right back to it.
dan friesen
It's just over-hyping nonsense, but it's actually kind of fun, and I enjoyed looking into it, so I look forward to sharing some of this with you.
jordan holmes
Let's do it.
dan friesen
But first, let's say hello to some new wonks.
So first, Jordan, Deuce Bungalow Yale Juggalo.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Thank you, Deuce.
Next, a thankful and vaccinated disappointment to conspiracy theory and anti-vax parents.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Tom and his cats, a.k.a.
per-illegals.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thanks, Tom.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Tom.
dan friesen
Next, conspicuous newsroom Dixie Cup.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
We're really knocking it out of the park today.
dan friesen
A lot of aliases today.
jordan holmes
A lot of really good ones today.
dan friesen
Next, Wicked Fellow in Smudge the Cat.
Leave a small donation of kibble at the altar of Selene.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Dungeon Master Mike.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Dungeon Master Mike.
Thank you.
dan friesen
I like that.
And finally, Spencer Williams loves non-structural cheese.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
unidentified
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Thank you all.
Now, Jordan.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
To make up for...
unidentified
Sometimes we don't have Out of Context drops.
dan friesen
To make up for it, I have two for you today.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And you can decide which one of these you enjoy more.
Here's the first one.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
I'm designed to be in danger.
I'm designed to challenge the enemy.
I'm designed to piss them off.
I'm designed to work 18 hours a day.
I'm designed to have children and to cook big delicious meals and to love amazing sunsets and to...
Hunt animals and to make love.
I'm alive.
dan friesen
So that's the first one.
jordan holmes
I feel like that's plagiarism.
That's the, like, we want to be free to do what we want to do speech.
That's the same thing.
dan friesen
It was a little bit longer than most of our Out of Context drops, but I felt like it didn't belong in any clip of the episode.
jordan holmes
I want to make love.
I'm alive.
unidentified
I'm alive.
dan friesen
I'm designed to fuck.
So here's the second one.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
So, Jack Spratt could eat no fat.
His wife could eat no lean because between them, they licked the platter clean.
I butchered that.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
See, he can take accountability.
unidentified
Ah, fuck that one up.
Oh, well.
jordan holmes
Hey, you gotta move on.
You know what?
You gotta move on.
Sometimes you fuck up.
You just keep plowing through.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Jack Spratt.
Oh, shit.
I forgot the rest of it.
dan friesen
I don't know if you want to make a choice or if people, listeners can tell us which is the better Out of Context drop.
jordan holmes
That's tough.
I mean, the first one is grosser.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's definitely true.
dan friesen
Yeah.
They're both appealing in different ways.
jordan holmes
They're in a certain death match of their own right now.
unidentified
Indeed.
dan friesen
There's a lot of blood.
And it's disappointing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
So here's the first clip, Jordan.
We start on October 5th.
alex jones
Wow.
Thank you so much for joining us on this live.
Tuesday, October 5th, worldwide transmission.
And everything's out in the open now.
Project Veritas got Pfizer executives on video admitting that they know that the vaccine is destroying people's immune system, that it's a higher rate of people that are sick that are taking the vaccine, and that it's causing ADE, antibody-dependent enhancement.
11-minute report.
It's on Infowars.com.
It's on Project Veritas.
And normally that would be a top story.
dan friesen
But it's not.
jordan holmes
Is it because finally people have kind of gotten the idea that these guys are full of shit all the time?
dan friesen
No, because Alex has a bigger story.
But real quick on this Project Veritas thing.
If you hear that name and you don't immediately be like, ah, boo.
You're either an idiot or a con man yourself.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's too late now.
dan friesen
It's nonsense.
Yeah.
unidentified
So the video that they put out is largely about the idea that natural immunity is better than the immunity one would give.
dan friesen
from vaccination.
This, of course, is a false choice that's being presented, where one option is getting vaccinated and the other is surviving COVID.
This conveniently ignores a whole lot of variables, like the possibility of dying or having severe complications from getting COVID.
These things aren't factored in because the video is arguing a stupid fake point.
There's no evidence in this video that Pfizer knows that vaccines are causing ADE, nor that they're wiping out immune systems.
There's one secretly recorded interview with a guy who's credited as a, quote, senior associate scientist who says that the rise in cases we're seeing with the Delta variant is possibly attributable to a decreased efficacy of the vaccine over time or the immunity waning.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
This is being misrepresented by Alex to be this guy saying that over time the vaccine destroys your immune system when in reality it's just him explaining that the protection you may have went from 95% to 70% effective.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is a person having a loose conversation, not someone who's citing hard information, so I don't know how much I would bank on even the specifics of this.
jordan holmes
Ah, it sounds like they finally got him.
dan friesen
Nailed to the wall.
A lot of the rest of the video is talking about Pfizer profiting from the vaccine, and if that's the conversation that Veritas...
jordan holmes
Fuck yeah, let's start some shit.
dan friesen
I welcome that conversation.
jordan holmes
Hell yeah.
dan friesen
Let's go ahead and nationalize production and distribution of the necessary medical breakthroughs that happen, so the messy suspicion about profit motives, it just goes away.
jordan holmes
I mean, considering the fact that these are financed with federal funds, i.e.
our money, how is it that then they get to make money off of the things that we paid for them to figure out?
dan friesen
I welcome Veritas championing that position, but I suspect that they won't because they're not actually concerned with Pfizer profiting off vaccines.
They just want to use that fact that they do make a profit.
as a prop to attack actual vaccines.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
All in all, this video is lousy with fake arguments that Project Veritas is having with itself, and it's essentially meaningless.
Yeah.
I regret that I watched it.
It's such a waste of time.
jordan holmes
I can't believe you did, but I'm proud of you.
dan friesen
Thank you.
jordan holmes
We gotta not have that.
dan friesen
No.
I know that I say every time that a Project Veritas thing happens, it's like, well, this is the last time I'm going to look into any of this.
And then I'm just like, well, I'm curious.
jordan holmes
You have to.
You do.
It's for you.
Nobody else believes them anymore except for people who already believe the shit that they're just justifying for them.
You're the only person who goes in there curious.
Wanting to find the truth.
dan friesen
And every now and again, I think they really do impress by lying in a new way.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
A creative new way.
So anyway, that's not the top story.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because here is the motherfucking top story.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
But that's our second biggest story.
Ladies and gentlemen, you saw, you heard the broadcast title today of the Alex Jones Show.
October 5th, Tuesday.
Emergency Tuesday broadcast.
Fauci talks about staging health scare with new virus in 2019 video.
Now, our amazing crew ended up staying up here until past 8 o 'clock last night.
To bring you an emergency Monday transmission.
And believe me, I didn't just come up here for fun.
This is an emergency.
So is today's broadcast.
Because this confirms they've premeditatedly done this to us.
And Fauci on the video with the head of Health and Human Services saying we need a new virus out of China, an avian bird flu, a SARS-CoV-2 bird flu, to scare everyone into accepting the new mRNA technology.
dan friesen
This is just a pathetic attempt on Alex's part to grasp its straws to build up and reinforce his COVID conspiracy.
Even before I get into any of the details on this, just take a moment to grasp how stupid Alex is and what nonsense he expects this audience to accept.
Here he is saying that Fauci and other immunology experts got together and discussed how they needed a new SARS COVID bird flu in order to get people to accept vaccines.
Does Alex know that coronaviruses and influenza viruses are completely different?
No!
Because I think he doesn't.
jordan holmes
He absolutely does not know that.
dan friesen
Yeah, what he's saying is just gobbledygook.
It's nonsense.
jordan holmes
It's magic.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So here's what's going on.
In October 2019, Fauci was part of a panel hosted by the Milken Institute, which was broadcast on C-SPAN.
This panel was a discussion about the breakthroughs in science and technology that had made it conceivably possible to create a vaccine that actually worked universally against all strains of influenza.
Most of the discussion is about the frustrating reality that there's a lack of funding and thus a lack of motivation on the part of the industry to pursue this sort of thing, which makes sense and sucks.
There's literally no discussion of staging a pandemic.
This is completely made up.
Alex doesn't actually get to playing this clip.
Any of it?
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, it would say different.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
He gets to playing clips, but 50 minutes into the episode, I was like, where is the fucking clip?
I was furious.
jordan holmes
That's bananas.
dan friesen
But here, I'm going to play for you the clip of the panel that he calls The Smoking Gun.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This is heavily edited and a lot of the things that sound suspicious make perfect sense in the context of the talk.
The only way for these dudes to have created this clip that we're about to listen to is Yes.
Yes.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
He did realize that he was like, I had to stay up late with my team editing this down into something we can lie about.
dan friesen
And we're going to actually take quite a while talking about this, because I think that there's a valuable illustration that we can make by going to the source material and comparing it to the way that Alex presents it.
jordan holmes
Sounds great.
dan friesen
But here is the combined clips of the panel.
unidentified
Why don't we blow the system up?
I mean, obviously we can't just turn off the spigot on the system we have and then say, hey, everyone in the world should get this new vaccine we haven't given to anyone yet.
But there must be some way that we grow vaccines mostly in eggs the way we did in 1947.
anthony fauci
In order to make the transition from getting out of the tried and true...
Egg growing, which we know gives us results that can be, you know, beneficial.
I mean, we've done well with that.
To something that has to be much better.
You have to prove that this works.
And then you've got to go through all of the clinical trials, phase ones, phase twos, phase three, and then show that this particular product is going to be good over a period of years.
That alone, if it works perfectly.
rick bright
There might be a need or even an urgent call for an entity of excitement out there that's completely disruptive, that's not beholden to bureaucratic strings and processes.
anthony fauci
So we really do have a problem of how the world perceives influenza, and it's going to be very difficult to change that unless you do it from within and say...
I don't care what your perception is, we're going to address the problem in a disruptive way and in an iterative way, because you do need both.
rick bright
But it is not too crazy to think that an outbreak of a novel avian virus could occur in China somewhere.
We could get the RNA sequence from that, beam it to a number of regional centers, if not local, if not even in your home at some point, and print those vaccines on a patch and self-administer.
dan friesen
So that's the entirety of the clips that he has cut together from this panel.
rick bright
Right.
jordan holmes
Wow.
How long was the panel?
dan friesen
45 minutes or maybe about 50 minutes.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, they should have edited it down to just that.
dan friesen
Uh-huh, yeah.
jordan holmes
Seems like they didn't have anything else important to say.
dan friesen
No, certainly not.
So we're going to go through this each clip by each clip that Alex put into this compilation and discuss the context, where they come from, and what they're talking about.
Because I did watch this panel, and I thought it was actually really interesting.
So here's the first clip that Alex plays.
unidentified
Why don't we blow the system up?
I mean, obviously we can't just turn off the spigot on the system we have and then say, hey, everyone in the world should get this new vaccine we haven't given to anyone yet.
But there must be some way that we grow vaccines mostly in eggs the way we did in 1947.
dan friesen
So this is the moderator of the discussion, Michael Spector of The New Yorker.
His question was very clearly about technological innovations in the sphere of vaccines.
It was a prompt that had to do with how this is not a space that has kept pace with other fields.
Here is that clip in its full sentence.
unidentified
So as part of my life, I teach at Stanford and people use this word in Silicon Valley, which I mostly hate, but I'm going to use it now, disruption.
Why don't we blow the system up?
I mean, obviously we can't just turn off the spigot on the system we have and then say, hey, everyone in the world should get this new vaccine we haven't given to anyone yet.
But there must be some way that we grow vaccines mostly in eggs the way we did in 1947.
We live in a world where I can download whatever song I want onto my phone at command, and we grow vaccines the way we did 70 years ago.
What is going on with that?
dan friesen
So his conversation is about disruption in the field of technology.
jordan holmes
Yeah, obviously.
dan friesen
It makes a whole lot of sense, but it sounds different based on the isolated portion of it that Alex played.
jordan holmes
Sure, you edit it together, and it sounds like what they're really looking for is a catalyst to make everybody...
To blow up the system.
Exactly.
So if there's not going to be one that is just going to happen naturally, we'll make one in order to blow up the system.
Got it.
dan friesen
So here's the second clip that Alex plays.
That first one of Michael Spector was from eight minutes in.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Now the next clip is Fauci from 22 minutes in.
jordan holmes
Okay.
anthony fauci
In order to make the transition from getting out of the tried and true egg growing, which we know gives us results that can be, you know, beneficial.
I mean, we've done well with that.
To something that has to be much better.
You have to prove that this works.
And then you've got to go through all of the clinical trials, phase 1s, phase 2s, phase 3, and then show that this particular product is going to be good over a period of years.
That alone, if it works perfectly, is going to take a decade.
dan friesen
This is actually kind of fair.
Like, I don't think it's really all that misrepresentative.
Fauci was talking about how there were breakthroughs that scientists were making in terms of a universal flu vaccine, but it would be something that would still take a long time.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's not talking about the timetables that it would take to make an mRNA coronavirus vaccine.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
He's talking about a universal flu vaccine.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
It's a different conversation, but, like, sure, he's saying that something would take a long time.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
That's how it works.
dan friesen
Right.
And it's not like...
I don't know.
This is as close to, like, okay, at least it's not maliciously out of context.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
But it is a completely separate conversation.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
I mean, the obvious thing about that, though, is like...
What they're also describing is not just a decade of research and development and all of that.
I wouldn't be too surprised if they had something that they're building around right now that is like 30% effective against most flu, you know?
And it's like, okay, they can refine that, and then...
Eventually, it's going to have to get down to, let's test it.
If we're going to give it to everybody, we're going to have to test it on everybody.
dan friesen
Yeah, and that's a really good point, because Fauci is also discussing how this is on the shoulders of this research that's already in the process.
jordan holmes
Totally, yeah.
dan friesen
And so, I mean, there's more to it, but it's close.
It's not nearly as bad as the rest of this.
Here is the third clip, which Alex has cut in.
This is from 32 minutes, so 10 minutes after that last clip.
rick bright
There might be a need or even an urgent call for an entity of excitement out there that's completely disruptive, that's not beholden to bureaucratic strings and processes.
dan friesen
So that clip, out of context, makes no sense.
No.
What is he talking about?
jordan holmes
I mean, I guess what he's trying to say is that the government is acting too slow.
Or I guess what Alex is trying to make you think he's saying is that because the government can't act the way that we want it to right now, then there needs to be an outside entity that is not beholden to all of those laws of the evil government that keeps them from doing stuff.
We need fucking Satanism.
dan friesen
Oh, okay.
Well, here's the full context.
jordan holmes
Okay.
rick bright
I think also it's just not sexy anymore.
I mean, it probably hasn't been for quite some time.
I mean, when I was in grad school, everyone was working HIV vaccines.
I was in the laboratory here at Robinson and working on DNA vaccines for HIV.
And I came to the lab and everyone's working HIV.
She said, you can do what everyone else is doing.
I've got a little bit of leftover flu money on a flu grant over there, and no one's interested in influenza.
So I took on that challenge.
To make it sexy, I think we have to...
I like the concept disrupting this field.
If we are just continually thinking we're going to work on another iteration or...
No offense, I think we need to continue what we're doing, but another iteration or another assay or another step, I don't know if that's enough to excite those really creative thinkers.
So in addition to doing what we're doing we're so good at, I think in parallel there might be a need or even an urgent call Well, the HIV field was galvanized when we put a lot of money into it.
anthony fauci
So let's talk about what's reality.
And I think that the easiest way to get a grad student really excited about something that isn't sexy...
It's to, you know, put a gown on it by having a lot of money.
And as you well know, I mean, there has been movements among certain members of Congress.
Ed Markey put a bill in for increasing the influenza for universal flu vaccine by a billion dollars over five years, which is $200 million.
When you put that kind of investment, you will get people excited not to do the same thing they're only doing.
You'll get new people to come in with new ideas that are disruptive and looking at it from different angles.
So when you have an infusion of resources, that's how the field changes because that's exactly what happened with HIV.
dan friesen
So predominantly what they're talking about, and it becomes pretty clear when you listen to the full answer.
And they talk about it a bit more throughout, too, is there needs to be some kind of dedicated flu entity that has funding for this, for flu research.
Because when you have the money, you attract creative thinkers who can attack the problem from other angles, things you wouldn't think of.
They innovate.
It's disruptive to the status quo of how treatment has been modeled up till this point.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
It's very clear.
It makes total sense.
jordan holmes
It's obvious.
I mean, that we need a change is when he's talking about his grad school and all of those people doing one thing, and it's like, oh!
That makes perfect sense, obviously.
It is not this guy trying to steal the powers of the government in order to create a super virus that will wipe out humanity.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
So it's not that?
dan friesen
It's not that.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So here's the fourth clip.
This is Fauci, and this is from 42 minutes.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So we're jumping around 10 minutes.
jordan holmes
We're jumping around quite a bit.
dan friesen
Quite a bit.
jordan holmes
Quite a bit.
anthony fauci
So we really do have a problem of how the world perceives influenza, and it's going to be very difficult to change that unless you do it from within and say, I don't care what your perception is, we're going to address the problem in a disruptive way and in an iterative way, because you do need both.
dan friesen
So, that is out of context, obviously.
And it sounds like, you know, people don't take the flu seriously enough, so we're going to make them take it seriously.
jordan holmes
We're going to teach them a real lesson.
dan friesen
And that's not what he was saying at all.
anthony fauci
It's the diversity of what influenza means to the community.
For some people, they get the flu, the real flu, not like I have a stomach flu, but the real flu, they get better.
So there's sort of this perception.
If it's so serious, how come people get flu each year and it isn't a catastrophe?
When you're dealing with a disease like HIV, if you get HIV, it's serious.
Whether you're young, whether you're middle-aged, whether you're old.
If you get cancer...
That's bad.
Whether you're young or whether it's intermediate.
Whereas with influenza, for some people, they go throughout life, it doesn't impact them at all.
There isn't anybody that's afraid of influenza.
You go in a focus group and you say, are you afraid of getting HIV if you're at risk?
Oh, absolutely.
Are you afraid of getting cancer?
Absolutely.
Are you afraid of the flu?
Don't bother me.
I mean, that's the reality of how people perceive flu.
As Rick said, we're responsible.
For a variety of diseases making countermeasures, malaria, tuberculosis, Zika, Ebola, in the middle of Ebola right now.
So you go to the DRC where I went to a week and a half ago to visit our sites.
And you ask somebody, are you worried about influenza?
They'll laugh at you.
What are you talking about influenza?
They don't vaccinate their people for influenza because they have enough problems with malaria and tuberculosis and now Ebola.
So it is a perception, which is a misperception, that it is not a serious disease.
But as Casey said...
Hundreds of thousands of people die of it each year, and when you get a pandemic, millions and millions of people.
So we really do have a problem of how the world perceives influenza, and it's going to be very difficult to change that unless you do it from within and say, I don't care what your perception is, we're going to address the problem in a disruptive way.
And in an iterative way, because you do need both.
dan friesen
So essentially, if you take the entire context of the clip into consideration, what he's saying is that there's not going to be public pressure ever really to deal with the flu.
The influenza vaccine that would possibly be something that could be created isn't going to come from people who are like, I'm terrified of getting the flu.
jordan holmes
No one's calling their representative being like, if you guys don't fund flu research right now.
dan friesen
Right.
And so essentially, what he is advocating is we need to do this from within.
The people who are the researchers need to treat the problem as it is, not as people perceive it to be.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And that makes total sense, too.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's very obvious.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
That's not even hard.
You could have just guessed that.
You could have been like, hey, do people take the flu seriously?
No.
Is that bad?
Probably.
The end.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Got it.
dan friesen
So what Alex is doing is taking Fauci's words and doing a magic trick with them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, obviously.
dan friesen
Basically.
So here's the fifth clip, which is the one that I strongly suspect is what made Alex cover this clip to begin with.
rick bright
But it is not too crazy to think that an outbreak of a novel avian virus could occur in China somewhere.
We could get the RNA sequence from that, beam it to a number of regional centers, if not local, if not even in your home at some point, and print those vaccines.
unidentified
That's a fascinating...
dan friesen
idea about technology.
jordan holmes
That would be so cool.
dan friesen
But he mentioned China and vaccines.
jordan holmes
And there you go.
dan friesen
The end.
Anyway, here's the full clip.
unidentified
Let's talk about the science a little bit more.
Craig Venter, who is a controversial person but interesting to me, has written that he thinks we ought to have a vaccine such that if you take off in a plane from Hong Kong and are infected...
By the time your plane lands in New York, there ought to be a vaccine assembled and deliverable to you.
How crazy is that?
How far away from that are we ever going to get there?
rick bright
I'm not going to say how far away, but I don't think that's too crazy.
I think that if we move towards the era of synthetic-based vaccines, I think we remove the dependencies of thinking the vaccine has to be something that we have to grow.
If we can grow into something else, an egg or an insect cell, any type of dependency on growth, if we can move into more synthetic, the nucleic acid-based, messenger RNA-based, those sequences can be rapidly shared.
around the world.
Enzymes that can synthesize the small fragments of messenger RNA necessary to go into vaccine can be made in a shoebox size system right now, which is translatable into a 3D printer-like or inkjet printer-like thing.
Now putting those In a system to print those on a patch that a self-administered vaccine could happen.
The technologies are out there.
We haven't demonstrated their true effectiveness and ability for a vaccine.
But it is not too crazy to think that an outbreak of a novel avian virus could occur in China somewhere.
We could get the RNA sequence from that, beam it to a number of regional centers.
If not local, if not even in your home at some point, and print those vaccines on a patch and self-administer.
We're a ways out, but the technology is there to be adapted, assembled, to put in that futuristic view of a rapid response to an emerging novel threat.
dan friesen
That doesn't prove shit for Alex.
It's just the weakest bombshell I've seen him try to pass off.
Like, you hear that, and it's like, oh, they're discussing hypothetical breakthroughs of technology.
And I need to make this very fully clear.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's very specifically in the context of universal flu vaccine.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The entirety of it has nothing to do with coronavirus.
The way that Alex has been, they're saying they planned it!
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Like, nothing.
unidentified
Nothing matches.
jordan holmes
This is a different virus.
dan friesen
And nothing matches the idea that they were planning something.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, he said China!
They're going to stage an outbreak in order to get us to take this new technology.
No, they're discussing...
New technology.
That's what they're doing.
jordan holmes
I swear to you, I cannot believe that you can't sell people on this.
Okay.
Take $10 billion away from the military.
They won't even fucking notice.
They don't have an accounting process.
dan friesen
Apparently not.
jordan holmes
Put it towards making universal flu vaccine printers that you can have in your house.
That's incredible.
dan friesen
Yeah, Alex would have a problem with that.
jordan holmes
Everybody, everybody.
But more importantly, the only people who have a problem with it now are big corporations who can't sell that.
dan friesen
Probably.
So one of the things that I think is really fascinating is that I watched this whole...
This whole panel.
And there's stuff that was very intentionally ignored.
There's one comment that's incredibly bizarre that they left out considering that they cut out clips from before and after this in the panel discussion.
I wonder why they didn't include this.
rick bright
I mean, we're in this room, we're probably vaccinologists, we're probably immunologists, we're probably working on some vaccine, made some vaccine at some point in our life, but we're not the chemical engineers or the other engineers or the anthropologists or others who bring critical insight on how you disrupt and deconstruct an age-old problem.
I mean, we've had these vaccines for 70 years, so this is an age-old construct that requires those creative chefs to come out of the kitchen and deconstruct the carrot cake and make it look like...
It's like something different but the best carrot cake you've ever eaten in your entire life.
We need that for an influenza vaccine.
And we also need to not forget that for influenza, vaccines aren't the only part of the solution.
I mean, it's so easy to get caught up.
If you want to get sexy and influenza, you do stay in the vaccine space.
But if you go into the diagnostic space or the therapeutic space or non-pharmaceutical intervention, those are the early steps that will make a huge impact on bending that epidemic curve for seasonal and a pandemic outbreak.
And so we have to have that single focus on stopping influenza, not only on making a vaccine.
dan friesen
Oh, that's weird.
jordan holmes
So you're saying that they don't necessarily want to only make a vaccine.
They want to use multiple treatment options.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's almost like they're public health professionals and experts who are discussing ways of treating a problem and dealing with a problem as opposed to what Alex is presenting it as, which is they want to just put jabs in everybody.
jordan holmes
It is ironic that he is describing...
The antithesis to Alex.
You know that, like, the creative chef who can come in and turn an amazing carrot cake into something that you don't think is a carrot cake and you can eat deliciously without being like, carrot cake is shit.
dan friesen
Right?
jordan holmes
Alex is the person who takes an amazing carrot cake that won't get you fucking killed by a virus and then goes, that carrot cake is going to kill you!
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
It's the same job!
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
He's asking for the anti-Alex!
dan friesen
So, I watched this and I saw the clips that Alex used.
I just think this is one of the just weakest attempts I've seen to make a bombshell out of something.
jordan holmes
Oh, this does not get a D-grade.
dan friesen
No, I don't think that the staff needed to stay till 8. To get this kind of work done, because this sucks.
Yeah.
I think that the...
I also enjoyed watching the actual presentation.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I appreciate Alex bringing that to my attention.
jordan holmes
That's nice.
dan friesen
But this is the smoking gun.
jordan holmes
This is the smoking gun of smoking guns.
dan friesen
You bet.
jordan holmes
What you just played for me...
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
...is the smoking gun of all smoking guns.
alex jones
The smoking gun of smoking guns of smoking guns.
And when you add it to...
Peter Daszak and the Wuhan lab and Fauci and in the thousands of emails now saying gain of function, merge four viruses, then add the HIV spike protein, which is the COVID-19 virus.
It is just unbelievably open and shut that they did this.
Wow.
dan friesen
I mean, if it's the smoking gun of smoking guns of smoking guns...
jordan holmes
Why do you have to edit it so hard?
dan friesen
There's that.
And then there's also a question of why do you need all of these other...
Narratives.
That's a good question.
Why do you have to combine all of it together for it to be even marginally persuasive if this is the smoking gun of smoking guns?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Stupid.
jordan holmes
It does seem, though, that if that is the smoking gun of smoking guns, then we can at least be sure he's only going to talk about that narrative from here on out, because that's the one.
dan friesen
I mean, it's got to be the most important thing.
jordan holmes
It's got to be the only important thing.
dan friesen
Yeah, he would probably take most of the, you know, the rest of this episode.
jordan holmes
At least the rest of the segment.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, he does talk about it for a little while.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And actually, yeah, I completely agree with you.
If this is the smoking gun, he should be talking about it all day.
jordan holmes
Non-stop!
It's the only important thing!
dan friesen
And he should play...
Three hour show.
He could play the entire thing and still have two hours left.
jordan holmes
The point of a smoking gun is that you no longer need evidence past the gun being smoking.
dan friesen
It's because it's smoking.
jordan holmes
It's smoking?
dan friesen
That they just shot someone.
jordan holmes
You've just shot someone.
There's nobody who's like, okay, but now let's go find out where his shoes came from.
No.
dan friesen
We got him.
We've got the smoking gun.
Open and shut case.
jordan holmes
The end.
Let's just go get it done.
dan friesen
Shut up.
Keep digging.
jordan holmes
No!
We've got it!
dan friesen
Look, we make money on clues, not on solving cases here.
jordan holmes
Oh man, that does sound right for the cops though.
dan friesen
So Alex believes that not only did Fauci do this, there was a specific target.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Was it Alex?
No, it's the countries that Alex thinks are white.
alex jones
And they hit their primary targets.
Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Europe, the UK, the US.
Because...
We have a background of free market and right to self-defense and Christianity and individualism that is against the globalist system.
So we've been targeted with propaganda and abortion and Satanism and multiculturalism.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, how?
alex jones
And now they're hitting us with the actual bioweapon.
No one else is taking it.
dan friesen
That's just not true.
jordan holmes
Did he just make a slippery slope argument that the first...
Look, if you force people...
To recognize that race is a fucking social construct and has nothing to do and we're all just the same people all the time.
What's next?
Bioweapons?
dan friesen
Probably.
So the message that Alex is trying to send is that the mRNA vaccines are a weapon and they're being deployed against the countries that he sees as Christian and white.
That's the subtext here.
It's very clear.
This is all just his own white persecution complex talking, though, since countries all over the world have authorized the use of both the Pfizer and Moderna shots.
When you get right down to it, it's really just about money.
Very few countries have the ability to actually manufacture mRNA vaccines and the companies that do aren't sharing that shit because it would cut into their profits.
The lower-income countries can't afford to buy large amounts of these vaccines for their population, so they may go with less effective but more affordable alternatives, or maybe just not able to vaccinate a vast majority of the public.
Anyway, this is just a load of bullshit, and the only real message Alex is trying to spread here is that white people are under attack, because that's the theme of this show.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it did go to white people a lot faster than I was expecting.
dan friesen
I didn't go faster than I expected.
jordan holmes
No, I mean...
dan friesen
I expected to go immediately.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
That I understand.
I meant more in the context of the sentence he was saying.
I was like, we're talking about bioweapons.
It's all about bioweapons.
They're trying to kill other people.
Multiculturalism.
Wait, what?
Now it's race?
That was fast!
That was fast!
dan friesen
So, look.
Fauci's on this fucking tape.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
From 2019.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And he's bragging.
jordan holmes
Smoking gun.
dan friesen
Bragging.
He's bragging about how they're going to stage this pandemic in order to bring in jabs.
jordan holmes
I didn't hear that, but okay.
dan friesen
You know why he did that?
Because that's what villains in movies do.
jordan holmes
But wait!
dan friesen
Why do villains in movies do it?
jordan holmes
Because they're based off of people like Fauci.
dan friesen
You bet.
alex jones
I'm about to cover the depopulation-ish and the admissions, the facts, the public statements of Fauci, the arrogance of these criminals.
Hiding in plain view.
Because remember, art imitates life.
So why in so many movies with villains or sci-fi films or dystopic films does the villain brag about what they do?
Because that happens in history.
They love to monologue about what they're planning very thinly veiled in front of you before they do it.
Just like the Riddler or the Joker will break in on TV or radio and tell you he's sending you a treat that'll come knocking in the night in the form of...
So that it makes it more fun, like the Zodiac Killer.
dan friesen
So typically, villains bragging in movies is done as an easy way to fill in gaps in the plot with big exposition cups.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's a huge exposition.
That's what it is.
dan friesen
That's typically the narrative function of it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's the movie telling you what the movie did.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's also really convenient because it gives the writer a way to create a situation where the hero is dead to rights and the villain is all but one, but because of hubris, the hero is able to wiggle out of the situation.
It's classic.
jordan holmes
Hubris is Kroosh.
dan friesen
The Riddler sent out Riddles because that was his whole character.
He's just a dude who's obsessed with puzzles and decided that Batman was the best person to test his abilities against.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
The Riddler is not a good choice for Alex to use as an example.
jordan holmes
In Batman Forever, the Riddler actually worked for Bruce Wayne until Bruce Wayne neglected him or he had an accident or something, and then Riddles everywhere.
dan friesen
Look, there's a lot of different variations of characters, but he gives out Riddles because he's the Riddler.
jordan holmes
He's the Riddler.
That's what he does.
dan friesen
As for the Joker, he's criminally insane.
jordan holmes
There was...
There was that.
There was that.
dan friesen
Anyway, this is just a ton of shit, but Alex thinks he's living in a spy movie, so it should come as no surprise that he imagines his pretend villains are taunting him like a Bond villain.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's just really sad to see the lengths he has to go to create the impression that they're actually doing that, though.
This bombshell today is a particularly weak example of that.
He just sees people taunting him at all corners.
It's sad.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it does feel like, you know, movies are realer than the reality you see.
To him.
Yeah, exactly.
In real life, you don't monologue because that would waste time.
Look, they assassinated Khashoggi.
They didn't fucking monologue.
dan friesen
You know what would be interesting is if you are a villain and you're about to commit your crime and you monologue and then you're like...
That didn't feel as good as I thought it would.
jordan holmes
I gotta do that one again.
dan friesen
You know what?
I thought that would really be exciting to monologue my crime out.
jordan holmes
Right.
Because normally I don't do it.
That only happens in movies.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
But I thought I'd really step into those shoes.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And you know what?
It left me cold.
I don't feel fulfilled.
jordan holmes
It's a real bummer.
It's a real bummer.
Yeah.
It's like meeting your heroes.
You never want to meet your heroes and you never want to perform a monologue in a non-monologue situation.
dan friesen
Or maybe that's a sign that you need to check.
If you're depressed.
If you're a villain and you monologue and it doesn't feel good, maybe you're not enjoying the things that you would have.
jordan holmes
Oh my god, can you imagine that on one of those Abilify commercials or whatever?
Are you a villain?
Monologue's not doing it for you these days!
dan friesen
Yeah.
I do think it's really silly that Alex believes this.
jordan holmes
That is bananas.
dan friesen
Yep.
There's other silly things that Alex believes that are actually much more fucked up and dangerous, though.
alex jones
And then in 8.15...
1815, at the Battle of Waterloo, Lord Wellington defeated in his British-Prussian pincer attack.
Napoleon Bonaparte and he sent carrier pigeons to the coast on fast Corvette ships across to announce that morning that Lord Wellington had lost the war.
And the British stock market plunged by 99%.
Rothschild, of course, began selling right up front.
Everybody panicked and began selling.
Then they came in with the news, oh my god, Wellington has lost, British army destroyed, British empire has collapsed, Napoleon rules the earth, and as soon as everybody started selling, he bought it all up.
And now, 200 plus years later, that system rules the entire planet.
Except for Russia and a few other countries.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
So we talked about this in depth in the Endgame coverage, but just as a brief refresher, that story that Alex is telling about Nathan Rothschild is not true.
It has its roots in a pamphlet that was distributed by a giant anti-Semite whose pen name was Satan, but it was actually named Georges Derenvale.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The pamphlet, released in French, was titled The Edifying and Curious History of Rothschild I, King of the Jews.
Sure.
would be dramatized in the 1940 Nazi propaganda film The Rothschild's Shares in Waterloo.
To put it bluntly, Alex either thinks this fake story is true or he knows it's a lie that's been historically used to incite public hatred And he's passing it along to his audience as the truth anyway.
Yeah.
unidentified
I would say whichever is true, Alex is a horrible source of information.
dan friesen
And I'd really like to know what Rogan thinks about it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's bananas.
Wow, if you're writing a tract with comma king of the Jews and it's not about Solomon...
You have already let me know that you're an anti-Semite.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's troubling that Alex, in the year 2021, is still peddling this story, because it's been thoroughly debunked, and there's every reason for him to know that this is an anti-Semitic falsehood that has lingered over the years.
And it's something that he perpetuates.
It's a large part of his worldview, and congratulations to people like Joe Rogan, helping spread that message far and wide.
jordan holmes
Spread the anti-Semitism wherever you can.
I can, Joe Rogan.
dan friesen
So, Jordan.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Let me ask you a question.
jordan holmes
What's up?
dan friesen
Does Alex need money?
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, in a certain sense, he needs less money because all of it's going to go away, so he should start spending all of it now.
dan friesen
Well, let me ask you this.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Has he sold his house?
jordan holmes
No, he has not.
dan friesen
I actually can't tell you whether or not he sold his house.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Although some other stuff might be going up on the block.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And I really want to thank the listeners and viewers for your support because we're under such incredible attack.
And I've got a lot of plans and projects in motion working with other folks, partnering with other folks to be able to circumnavigate all the deplatforming and during key junctures be able to pop up and engage the globalists with the truth into this future time we're going, which we're now entered the beginning of.
So I need major wartime capital to do this, and that's why you're going to see me on air soon, just because there are little side issues, but they're important.
Selling the armored truck.
It's been great.
Had a lot of great coverage with it.
Got a lot of attention with it for our causes, but it's going to be sold.
I'm going to sell most of my guns that I don't need.
I've got too many that are extra.
50 cal, stuff like that.
Everything is going to go in to the full energy of the fight, because that's a ritual for me.
That I need to sell my house, which is being sold right now, finally, and everything into this, of course I'd want to put all in on the total future of humanity and my children and your children in front of God.
I mean, I could spill some blood on there, but that's not that kind of ritual.
But it kind of feels like it should be, doesn't it?
Because there will be blood spilled.
And so, at the end of the day, which we're not looking for, but the enemy's going to bring us into that.
dan friesen
Yikes.
Yikes.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
That's a man who's about to lose all of his money.
dan friesen
Maybe a guy who is having buyer's remorse on that tank.
jordan holmes
I can't believe it took him this long.
dan friesen
But it's interesting to hear him say, when he's talking about the tank, we got a lot of attention on it.
jordan holmes
Got a lot of attention on that tank.
dan friesen
That was obviously the goal all along.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was the point.
dan friesen
Well done.
Yeah.
This is silly.
jordan holmes
That's bad.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He's basically going to have a yard sale.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yep.
Of.50 cal guns.
You know, stuff you want just people buying.
dan friesen
I would maybe buy another bullhorn if he has like a tyranny crusher.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would.
dan friesen
If he has that tiny bullhorn that he used.
I would buy that.
jordan holmes
I don't know if we can find that one.
dan friesen
Yeah, but I'd put an offer on the tiny bullhorn.
jordan holmes
I'll put an offer on the tiny bullhorn.
That'd be fun.
We'll go to an auction like in Hudson Hawk, and you and I will bid against each other for the tiny bullhorn.
dan friesen
That seems counterproductive.
So he's doing this plug, basically, where he's talking about he's going to sell his 50 cals and his tank.
I think this drifts into what I would describe as sacrilegious territory.
alex jones
Be part of that ritual in front of God.
Be part of the resistance.
Don't just get great products you need because they make your life better.
Fund this war and make sure as we go into this fight, as I walk into that arena with my shield and my sword and I got my helmet on, that we're all together on this because you're that gladiator on the field as well and that we are prepared and trained and well-fed and focused and not distracted to make sure we go in there in the Tom Brady zone.
Politically, this is an allegory.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Cut these enemies down with absolute precision.
Total commitment.
And so...
I'm in maximum push zone.
I was born for this.
So were you.
And we are going to see the whole nine yards now unfold.
World government, match extermination, you name it.
But through that, we'll have victory, the greatest awakening ever, and coming back to God.
So get it at Infowarsstore.com before it sells out.
It's going to sell out today.
Rainforest ultra-discounted.
dan friesen
Yeah, man, you've got to buy his products to take part in the holy ritual in front of God.
jordan holmes
Man, that's intense.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is dumb.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that reminds me of in World War II when they had celebrities going around trying to get people to buy war bonds and stuff.
That was, you know, like, patriotism and, like, we gotta defeat the Nazis and all that stuff.
If they were going around being like, listen, you wanna defeat the Nazis?
You gotta buy Brain Force.
People would have been turned off.
dan friesen
It's a ritual.
It's a sort of afterlife-involved spiritual ritual to buy my down-and-out sleep aid.
jordan holmes
Gotta get it now.
It's gonna sell out.
dan friesen
So, look, he has the bombshell of bombshells, smoking gun of smoking guns.
And as we've discussed, you would think he would be like, well, we're going to talk about this all day.
It's the only thing to talk about.
unidentified
Well...
jordan holmes
Do we have personal issues to talk about?
unidentified
Well...
alex jones
Yes, Ted Nugent is at it again, ladies and gentlemen, fighting the tyrants.
And here's a quick clip of what we're about to talk about with him.
unidentified
Well, would you speak to the people who believe it is a worthwhile vaccine and it is saving lives?
alex jones
Are they just dead wrong?
unidentified
They've been fed a line from the federal government?
ted nugent
Jim, I appreciate the opportunity to speak to the people that went ahead and got the jab.
I speak their language.
jordan holmes
I hate the way he starts.
unidentified
I speak to them.
jordan holmes
He always starts with this.
ted nugent
They understand that.
dan friesen
Good bit.
jordan holmes
Wow.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So Ted Nugent.
jordan holmes
Oh, great.
Well, first thing I want to say, Dan, is thank you so much for giving us the opportunity to listen to Ted Nugent.
He's bringing in a lot of different things.
He's really doing it.
And thank you for that.
dan friesen
No problem.
I thank Alex for getting rid of the smoking gun of smoking guns to talk to Ted Nugent.
jordan holmes
I mean, when the Nuge is around.
dan friesen
Noted, suspected, uber creep.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Noted, suspected, confirmed uber creep.
dan friesen
Guy who can't seem to stop writing songs about how he wants to fuck minors.
jordan holmes
Super proudly uber creep.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
I'm going to put that song on an album, the one where I detail my crimes.
dan friesen
The narrative in the story for everyone was, on the right wing, was like, no one's getting this for COVID for a long time.
jordan holmes
It's all a lie.
dan friesen
For a long time.
Now the sort of fever is broken and everyone can just sort of be like, yeah, everyone I know had it.
And Nugent's no exception.
ted nugent
The most important point I can bring out is that when my buddies and my...
My friends and my hunting buddies and my fellow musicians and my wife, Germaine, and I got it.
We went to the frontline doctors, and we did exactly the opposite of what the government told us to do.
I'm sorry, Ted, there's no treatment.
Bull crap!
The frontline doctors recommend, across the board, hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, steroids, and zinc.
I've been taking zinc since October of 2019, and I've always taken CDB12, and I've always eaten good and taken good care of myself, clean and sober.
I get a lot of exercise.
I breathe more wild swamp air than any duck you'll ever meet.
And so I was already in good shape.
jordan holmes
He beats wild swamp?
ted nugent
Yeah, so everyone he knows got COVID.
dan friesen
And they all took ivermectin and got better.
I would wonder if those were PCR-confirmed tests.
Did they even get tested?
Because I bet they didn't.
jordan holmes
Who knows?
Who cares about their dumb story?
dan friesen
It's bullshit.
But it's now shifting to everybody saying that everybody got it.
That's so weird.
jordan holmes
And it's fine.
Everybody just moves on.
dan friesen
So weird.
jordan holmes
They couldn't deny that it even exists for a year.
And all of those people will believe them.
And then they can just suddenly say, well, that year, I had COVID in that year.
And everybody's like, well, who didn't have COVID?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And nobody is just going like, so you were lying to us the whole time!
dan friesen
Yeah, and actively spreading.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
Yeah!
dan friesen
You know, at your no-mask rallies and stuff.
jordan holmes
Oh my god, I hate these people so much.
dan friesen
Yeah, they're pretty bad.
So, one friend of Ted Nugent's who got COVID, unfortunately, apparently didn't believe Ted about the magic of ivermectin.
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
dan friesen
And he died.
jordan holmes
He's dead.
ted nugent
My good friend, one of the greatest Americans that ever drove the asset column of America, Jim Brown from Indiana.
Just a great man, Alex.
And he died two days ago, and we're still mourning.
We are shattered at the loss of our loved ones and our dear friends.
And the reason they're dying is because the United States government is the enemy of America.
And they worked with the communist Chinese devils to weaponize a virus to hurt.
hurt mankind.
So the government of the United States and the communist Chinese devils killed my friend Jim, period.
dan friesen
All right, Ted.
jordan holmes
I feel like now that they've admitted everybody had COVID, can't we then...
Then just...
This can be settled with a simple bet, right?
dan friesen
What's that?
jordan holmes
I bet you take the vaccine and you're fine.
You bet that I take the vaccine and I die.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
That's the bet.
unidentified
Hmm.
dan friesen
I don't think that they would go for that.
jordan holmes
No, because then they would have to admit that it...
That they knew that it was fine.
dan friesen
Yeah, probably.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I just, you know, I hear this, and I can't think of anything other than incitement out of what Ted Nugent's saying.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
My friend died, so we should destroy the American government.
dan friesen
Well, if you have somebody who, you know, a loved one who passed away from COVID, then the government killed them, too.
They murdered your family member or friend, and so they're the enemy of America, and we need to take out the government.
It's a real bad, real bad thing.
jordan holmes
Wild.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Absolutely wild that you can live like this.
dan friesen
Yeah, but you know why Ted Nugent has these thoughts?
Why he has these positions?
jordan holmes
Because he's a lunatic?
dan friesen
Swamp air?
jordan holmes
Yeah, that could be.
That could be.
A lot of ducks have problems determining reality as well.
dan friesen
I would say that if you listen to Ted, he would tell you that it's because he practices critical thinking.
Now, I'm thinking critically about this next clip that I'm about to play.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
It goes off the rails pretty fast.
Watch how quickly this turns to talking about the Great Replacement.
jordan holmes
Sure.
ted nugent
Critical thinking is the DNA of freedom demanding we the people.
The experiment in self-government that is unique in the history of humankind here in the United States of America.
The Founding Fathers critically fought against the king.
The founding fathers critically thought against the arbitrary, punitive, and capricious and demonic rules that the king forced upon its subjects.
So they wrote down what they knew instinctively to be free, to be right, the gift of individual rights from God.
That's called the Constitution, the Bill of Rights.
Well, right now, if you're a critical thinker, if you're a good American, if you critically think, the entrepreneurs, the people in the arena, in the swirling dust of battle, the entrepreneurs that take risks and make sacrifices to start a new business and to employ people, the economic engine of the greatest quality of life in the history of the world, those critical thinkers are being punished and ostracized.
If you're a critical thinker and you're suspicious of the government, which you have to be, if you're honest, you have to be suspicious of everything about this government right now more than ever.
And if you are a critical thinker, you can't shop, you can't go to work, you can't go to school.
If you turn down the most offensive, forced medicine in the history of the world where the government says, "You have to take this shot or you can't go to the movies, you can't eat, you can't have a job, you can't go to school, you can't travel, you can't live." We're not forcing it upon you, but you can't have a life without it.
unidentified
Those critical thinkers are being punished and ostracized while we are importing desperate people from around the world.
jordan holmes
There we go.
ted nugent
Are you using critical thinking now?
We are witnessing the orchestration of an invasion of America by the government of the United States of America.
Make that perfectly clear.
The government, the entire gang of Democrat Marxists infesting our government are orchestrating the invasion of America through our southern border because those people will blindly obey the Democrats.
dan friesen
Holy shit.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
That took some turns.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That was two minutes long, and he started by rambling about critical thinking.
jordan holmes
Critical thinking is what the Founding Fathers used as a weapon against the king.
dan friesen
And within two minutes, we're on replacement.
jordan holmes
Yeah, now they're shipping in...
dan friesen
The Democrats want to replace the Americans with foreigners that they can control.
jordan holmes
I wish we could get rid of the American legend so much.
I wish we could get rid of the American legend, because the American Revolution was dumb.
Here's what happened.
The king stole land from the Native Americans, and then the, quote, founding fathers stole it from the king.
Nobody's a good guy here.
alex jones
That's it.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, granted, there's a little more nuance than that, but that is a more to-the-point version of the story.
So, look, these founding fathers, they'd be super into Alex, according to Ted Nugent, who also says that Alex has a T-Rex ball sack.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
There's some good folks still left the Pentagon.
They have their Project Solace run by the big AI system.
It found that the majority of deaths and hospitalizations were from the vaccinated and that it's destroying their immune system and creating a syndrome called ADE that over time kills about 80% of people that develop it, Ted.
I mean, this is from the Pentagon's own Project Solace.
What do you make of that?
ted nugent
Well, number one, we, the people, salute you, Alex, Joe, because you got a team.
The Shining Coast.
And you're what the Founding Fathers wanted all Americans to be.
Suspicious of all authority.
And you don't do it being spirited, but you look into it.
And before the government can hide their own findings, you expose the findings that support everything you and I believe in and talk about and destroys what they call misinformation because the guaranteed misinformation on planet Earth...
dan friesen
So we talked about that Project Salas on the last episode.
Alex is just lying about that.
Ted Nugent has no idea what he's talking about.
jordan holmes
No clue.
dan friesen
But look, here's the point I want to make.
It's all good and well to be suspicious, but that's not what Alex and Ted are.
This isn't suspicion.
This is coming to a predetermined conclusion and then being combative about anything that doesn't align with that conclusion.
It just so happens that the conclusion that they've arrived at is that the government is evil, so it's easy to paint anyone who doesn't agree with them as blind sheep, but that's just a trick.
That's just a sleight of hand trick.
When someone The appropriate next step is to search for corroborating or disqualifying information.
So you can evaluate that suspicion.
For instance, when I heard Alex covering that C-SPAN clip from Fauci...
I had a suspicion that he wasn't telling the truth about it, so the only way to deal with that productively was to find the raw video and assess it for myself.
jordan holmes
I feel like what you should have done is none of that and blamed the American government for giving him those clips.
dan friesen
Ultimately, it turned out that my suspicion was merited and that Alex was lying his ass off.
It would have been probably fine for me to just hear him talking about this clip and say I'm sure he's lying, but without learning more, I would be being lazy about reaching that conclusion and it wouldn't be based on it.
anything.
unidentified
This show would be really stupid if we just played clips of Alex and said nope without getting into the details of the stories.
dan friesen
It's good to have a healthy distrust and a level Yeah.
That's...
I'm not going to argue with that.
The problem is that what Ted is calling suspicion is actually just him being lazy about rationalizing his knee-jerk anti-government positions.
And then he's like, oh, you go out there and you find the sources that prove what we knew all along was right.
No, Alex finds things and lies about them in such a way to make them reinforce the conclusions that you came to ahead of time.
That's the game that's being played.
And I don't believe that Ted doesn't know that.
Well, maybe not.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Ted cannot know things.
I think Ted is more than capable of not knowing things.
dan friesen
He did write Wango Tango.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's got a real gift for not knowing what it is he's talking about.
But he has adjectives, and that's important.
unidentified
Yes, he does.
jordan holmes
If you bring adjectives, you don't need knowledge.
dan friesen
He has an annoying-ass cadence.
jordan holmes
Oh, I hate him.
dan friesen
So look, we got the smoking gun, smoking guns, smoking guns.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Well, it's not that good of evidence.
dan friesen
We had to talk to Ted.
jordan holmes
Because he's a star.
dan friesen
He wrote Wango Tango.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's going to get the information out.
dan friesen
Right, right.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So now it's time to really get down to business.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Oh, no, it's not.
We have another guest.
alex jones
So, Dr. Barlow, thanks for joining us in the middle of your busy schedule.
unidentified
Alex, thank you.
Your listeners are getting facts.
They're getting science.
Hashtag science.
Science matters.
And what you're giving people is useful information instead of propaganda talking points.
dr richard bartlett
I want to thank you for your diligence, for your tenacity, for not giving up when people have tried to destroy you over and over again.
unidentified
You can't keep a good man down.
Alex Jones is a good man.
dan friesen
So Dr. Bartlett is the person who Alex keeps mentioning as the guy who wrote in the prescriptions for things like ivermectin.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He's made a bunch of waves by claiming that the inhalable steroid budesonide is a, quote, silver bullet against COVID, which is not true.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
There may be some positive effects that a patient could get from the steroid, but in terms of being a cure, which is his claim, there isn't evidence to support that.
There's not a lot to say about this dude.
He's just using the same kind of game that everyone in Alex's world does.
Patients that get better with his steroids are remembered, and the ones that don't conveniently get forgotten.
So the claim of a miracle cure can keep being made, and everyone's trying to cover up the budesonide and whatever.
jordan holmes
Hey, you know what?
All you need to do is claim a miracle cure, because sometimes that's how we get Kellogg's cereal.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
You haven't thought about that.
Maybe Kellogg's cereal is our original down and out.
dan friesen
Oh, could be.
I'll think about this.
Here's something for you to think about.
alex jones
Dr. Richard Bartlett is our guest.
We just had Ted Nugent on, and they're both saying the same thing.
We've got to educate people, we've got to warn people that if you just go and get a ventilator put on you, you're probably going to die.
Or they say 92% of people in New York that got put on one died, or was it 94?
dan friesen
I had a suspicion about this, so I decided to look into it.
So this is a stat that was from a study that was put out in April 2020.
So it really only captured the beginning of the pandemic response.
They found that in their data set of patients, 1,151 of them needed to be put on mechanical ventilators.
They only knew the medical outcomes of 320 of these patients, and of these, 88% had died.
That number does sound really high, but there's a couple important points that you need to remember.
The first is that if you're needing to go on a daily basis, you're going to be able to do that.
And you may have a higher likelihood of dying regardless of ventilation.
Yeah, that's how it works.
Yeah, that's how it works.
since they don't have a final outcome yet, which is to say they hadn't died or been discharged from the hospital.
These 831 people were still in the hospital, and depending how their cases went, the number could be a lot different.
If they'd included these people in the calculation, then at that point, only approximately 25% of the people put on ventilators with COVID had died, which is a big difference.
Other data sets from around this time, from places like Vanderbilt and Emory University, showed death rates that are right in that ballpark of 25 to 30. The point here is that Alex should get into some critical thinking.
It might help him out.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that could go a long way.
dan friesen
Instead of reading and repeating statistics that he's not putting into a proper context.
jordan holmes
They sound nice.
dan friesen
But I mean, why would he?
jordan holmes
Oh, it's a bad idea.
dan friesen
But why would he when he's surrounded by experts like this Dr. Bartlett who's playing fast and loose with fucking details?
jordan holmes
He's one of the most prestigious doctors in the world.
So prestigious.
Did you know that?
dan friesen
I did know that because Alex told me.
unidentified
Yeah.
You need to use your brain, your training, your experience, and this is going to send a shiver down their spines right now.
But if you go to the NIH...
Budesonite guidelines for COVID treatment, Budesonite is talked about.
And they don't know that because they don't read these things.
They don't educate themselves.
dan friesen
So this is true, actually.
Budesonite is mentioned in the NIH's COVID treatment guidelines in the section titled, quote, immunomodulators under evaluation for the treatment of COVID-19.
It's something that they think merits evaluation, which is a little different than Bartlett's silver bullet claim.
Budesonide is mentioned 39 times in the entire 365-page document, like in this passage from page 217.
Quote, there is insufficient evidence for the panel to recommend either for or against the use of inhaled budesonide for the treatment of COVID-19.
Most of the other times it comes up is in the context of the guidelines discussing studies that looked at budesonide's effectiveness in treating COVID and how the studies were inconclusive and further research was required.
The fact that the drug is mentioned in the guidelines means nothing, but it's the sort of thing that a con man might say if he wanted to make the audience think that even the NIH admits that this is a silver bullet, which is the game that's being played by Dr. Bartlett here on Alex's show.
jordan holmes
I think something that they'd never consider about the way they view science, right, is if science actually worked the way that they think it does, we would get a new miracle cure for everything.
Every few months.
Every scientist would constantly be like, I saw it fix one patient, we got the miracle cure!
Every single...
dan friesen
We have a couple anecdotal stories.
unidentified
Totally!
jordan holmes
It'd be non-stop!
dan friesen
Disease is gone.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah, this one kills everybody.
This one doesn't kill anybody.
We've cured this.
This is all...
And then two weeks later, they'd be like, whoops, we didn't, but nobody paid attention.
dan friesen
Right, we're on to another thing already.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's insane!
The idea of if science works like the way they think...
We would live a non-stop chaos life.
dan friesen
We kind of do.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's fair.
dan friesen
So, look, we have the smoking gun of smoking gun of smoking guns.
But we have to talk to Ted Nugent because he's a celebrity.
This is a big time.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
It's a git.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Right.
And look.
We have to talk to Dr. Bartlett, because he's an important doctor in the world of ivermectin and budesonide.
This is important.
jordan holmes
We have to deal with both the origins of the pandemic and the treatment of it now.
dan friesen
It's responsible.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
So now that that's out of the way, we can get to talking about the smoking gun or the smoking gun or the smoking gun.
jordan holmes
It's about time.
dan friesen
Well, actually, I'm sorry.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
I'll tell you all about what happened to him next segment.
He's a very well-known comic, and I've seen him on Ladder with Crowder.
Derek Richards has been banned from a comedy tour.
We'll give you the details of that because, well, the online control freaks, the left said that he said some things they didn't like.
It's always like talking to folks that are being censored.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
Said some things they didn't like.
dan friesen
Another comedian who's going to have to make a half-hour special about how they aren't allowed to say things.
jordan holmes
I never get to talk.
You can't turn this off.
I can't talk so much.
dan friesen
So here's the situation.
There was a tour of military bases put out by the Department of Defense and the American Forces Entertainment.
Apparently, Derek Richards was set to perform on this tour, but then a naval officer found some of his old tweets and sent them to the DOD and AFE.
From an article in the Daily Dot, quote, This is just sad.
While I would be opposed to the DOD and the AFE saying that Richards cannot tweet these things, since that would be, you know, an infringement of free speech kind of thing, I also don't think that they're required to employ him as a comedian if he joked online about killing the president.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Seems like a pretty clear case of behavior that'll get you kicked off a USO tour.
jordan holmes
It is really funny.
I bet it never occurred to him that the DOD would be uncomfortable with that, because in his mind, Trump is the president, and they still work for Trump.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
The idea of him going on a USO tour doesn't make any sense to me because they all work for the guy that you want killed.
Do you realize that it changed hands?
You know what I'm saying?
The DOD would be mad about you tweeting out a...
If a Biden supporter...
If I was a comic and I was booked to do a USO tour three years ago and I was tweeting out all the things that I was tweeting out three years ago, the DOD would have understandably been like, This is not a good idea.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And let's be totally clear, there is a bit of a difference in messaging between, like, I don't like Joe Biden and this meme implying that Mike Lindell would make a better country by killing Joe Biden with a pillow.
jordan holmes
That one's a little aggressive.
dan friesen
Yeah.
There is a difference between those things.
I don't know.
I don't think that it's, like, advocating killing the president to post that meme, but I also don't think that it's...
jordan holmes
Didn't Kathy Griffin have a head or something?
unidentified
We'll get to that.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
We're about to do the whole, it's not fair.
dan friesen
I don't think it's as outrageous to imagine that the USO would cancel his appearance on this tour because of this and other tweets that they found objectionable.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
It's not a free speech issue.
jordan holmes
It's not.
dan friesen
But whatever.
jordan holmes
They're not saying he can't tweet.
dan friesen
Now, I will say that Derek Richards is...
At least he doesn't seem as mad as Alex wants him to be.
unidentified
And I harbor no ill feelings towards Armed Forces Entertainment or the Department of Defense.
I mean, at the end of the day, they're a corporation.
alex jones
No, Derek, I understand all that.
We understand you're a nice guy.
You're the victim here.
We're all the victim here.
These are lying bullies.
I mean, so what if you were a serious Christian or a right-wing Christian and that you thought that homosexuality was a sin?
You know, you're not there attacking them at the event you're telling comedy.
It should be what your comedy is.
And the whole point is, now you've got the LGBT groups attacking people that are straight.
So I've always been an open, inclusive guy.
But the left and their group are not inclusive now.
They're not inclusive of people that are pro-gun or pro-America or pro-Republican.
And it's wrong.
And so this is tyranny.
This is mind control.
And what happened to you is BS.
And this is all part of the leftist takeover and purge inside the military.
You're just a collateral damage of that.
dan friesen
Hey, Derek, can you be a little madder, please?
jordan holmes
Yeah, could you turn this into the biggest, most important issue?
dan friesen
Because I do not like conciliatory tone where you think you may be going to get booked on something again, and so you don't want to say, hey, fuck the DOD.
jordan holmes
Maybe a bad idea.
dan friesen
Yeah, that doesn't play.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
We shop in anger here.
That's our currency.
jordan holmes
Yeah, let's be important, Mr. Richards.
Your career and its future?
Meaningless to me.
Right now, important.
So I want you to burn it all down.
And then maybe I can kind of force you to...
I'm like a drug dealer.
I can force you to work at InfoWars.
dan friesen
Your career is kindling.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
dan friesen
I'd never heard of you before.
My intern told me you were on Louder with Crowder.
And I will never think of you again.
jordan holmes
Ever.
Yep.
Where's the guy who smashed stuff?
dan friesen
Where's the guy with the hammer?
jordan holmes
Yeah, the guy with the hammer.
Is he back on?
Ricky.
How's he doing?
He's having a great time?
dan friesen
Man, that guy made some great memes, and Alex wanted him to have a job.
jordan holmes
People with the last name Richards are not having a good year.
dan friesen
Mark?
jordan holmes
Mark Richards.
This dude.
I don't know.
We might as well go back to Captain Mark.
dan friesen
That's the same guy that I said?
jordan holmes
No, oh no, Mike Richards, the Jeopardy host.
dan friesen
Oh, I said Mark.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's who I was thinking of.
dan friesen
So Alex is like, look, they on the left, they insist you have to be punished for telling jokes.
But what about Obama?
He told jokes at the correspondence dinner.
He told jokes about Trump.
And then Alex plays a clip of Obama being funny at the correspondence dinner.
barack obama
All kidding aside, obviously we all know about your credentials and breadth of experience.
For example, seriously, just recently, in an episode of Celebrity Apprentice at the steakhouse, the men's cooking team did not impress the judges from Omaha Steaks.
And there was a lot of blame to go around, but you, Mr. Trump, recognized that the real problem was a lack of leadership, and so ultimately you didn't blame Little John or Meatloaf.
You fired Gary Busey.
And these are the kind of decisions that would keep me up at night.
alex jones
Yeah, there you go.
So Derek Richards, tell us about some of the evil tweets that the Hollywood folks got up in arms over a guy with...
4,000 Twitter followers or so.
They had to squash you because they've squashed so many others and taken so many others.
dan friesen
Such a weird choice to play that that's actually very funny.
jordan holmes
That's actually very funny.
dan friesen
And well-delivered.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, no, no.
We were laughing.
That was well done.
dan friesen
I had heard it before and I was laughing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's still very good because it is so absurd.
dan friesen
Yeah, and the nuance of the delivery of like, you did not blame Lil Jon.
jordan holmes
No, yeah, the order.
He even did Rule of Threes.
This was whoever wrote.
That joke was really good.
dan friesen
Yeah, definitely.
So yeah, I think it's a strange decision for Alex to do that, but whatever.
jordan holmes
Especially since, here's the difference there.
That was Obama making fun of a man for things he did.
dan friesen
Yeah, and the reason that Trump would even come up is because he was trying to say that Obama had a fake birth certificate, and he did this whole racist attack against him.
Now, if I were Trump...
And I had led this whole charge on the fake birth certificate Obama shouldn't be president thing.
I would simply not show up to the dinner where Obama's speaking.
jordan holmes
The wildest truth.
dan friesen
You're putting yourself in a position where, hey, maybe he's going to take a shot because you've been really offensive to him for a while.
I'd just not go.
But Trump decided, I'll go.
And then he got mad.
jordan holmes
And then when he became president, he decided, I will not go.
I do not like being made fun of.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
And it is very easy to make fun of.
unidentified
Which is why I surround myself with people who refuse to.
dan friesen
So, we're trying to frame this as these liberal Hollywood elites are behind what happened to this guy, this Derek.
jordan holmes
Why not?
dan friesen
It's fair to say that people like Debra Messing, they amplified the calling out of Derek's tweets, but they didn't search it out and try and find it just to destroy this guy.
A naval officer named Travis Akers found the tweets because he's stationed in the Middle East.
He'd heard about the upcoming tour, and he decided to see who the performers coming over were because he loves stand-up.
He found Derek's Twitter, and as he told the Daily Dot, quote, It's fun to pretend that this is just like all fake Hollywood liberal elites being on the warpath, but the reason that this is even being discussed is because this enlisted person was offended by what he saw on Derek's Twitter, and he tagged the DOD in a tweet about it.
In order for Alex's outraged machine to run properly, though, that has to be ignored entirely.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah, you can't have that.
dan friesen
Yeah, that detail is not real.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and it definitely can't also be somebody who was a fan of stand-up, because you've also got that added...
He's not funny enough for me to ignore these tweets.
That is an insult from him.
dan friesen
That is definitely a subtext.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would imagine that he would have been like, oh, Dave Chappelle's coming?
No need to look into that.
dan friesen
Oh, I guess Patrice has said some horrible things.
jordan holmes
Yes!
Patrice, yes!
Oh, my God.
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So, you were bringing up Kathy Griffin, and this is where she enters the proceedings.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But not before Derek tries to pretend that, hey, man, they misinterpreted my meme.
How?
Well, this is where we see his comedic chops.
jordan holmes
Let's hear it.
dan friesen
This is comedic chops.
unidentified
There was one where I was told that I was advocating murdering the president because there was a meme.
Of Mike Lindell from MyPillow, holding a MyPillow, standing next to President Biden, who was lying in a bed.
And so, yeah, that particular one in the upper right-hand corner.
alex jones
And sure, it's like from Godfather 2. It's hilarious.
unidentified
And it says in the headline on it, it says, Make America Great Again.
Now, anybody can take that any way they want.
alex jones
But it's obviously a joke.
unidentified
I see it as Mike Lindell clearly saying that...
President Biden had an uncomfortable pillow, and he was offering one of his good MyPillows for the president to lay upon.
Don't you see that, Alex?
I see that.
alex jones
Well, here's the deal.
Kathy Griffin did a severed head of Trump, and I think it was a protected speech.
She didn't say, go kill him, I want to kill him.
That was telegraphed.
It didn't cross the line, but almost did.
Yours didn't go one-tenth as far as that, and it's obviously good-natured.
dan friesen
It's good-natured.
I'm going to leave aside anything about that.
Fun game that Derek's playing about the tweet.
It's mostly because I don't really care about him tweeting this.
We can do that all day and it's just a dumb, not funny joke.
It does make sense that you'd get kicked off a USO tour for making that kind of joke, though.
You're entitled to your free speech, but you're not entitled to be paid to go on a USO tour.
Also, Kathy Griffin is probably the last example Alex should be bringing up, because she lost so many jobs after that picture came out.
She was fired from CNN, where she'd been one of the hosts of the New Year's Eve show, she got dropped from gigs, and she claims that she wasn't even allowed to fly for two months.
jordan holmes
And then everybody on the left said, everything is okay.
dan friesen
The picture also apparently got Kathy Griffin on the kill list of Caesar Sayoc, the MAGA bomber.
I wonder why he would put a target on someone who's relatively obscure and, you know, just released an admittedly possibly distasteful picture.
I don't know if this had anything to do with it, but allow me to take you back, Jordan, in my time machine to May 31st, 2017, where we can hear Alex's thoughts and Mike Cernovich's thoughts about Kathy Griffin.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
alex jones
And then Kathy Griffin comes out.
Like an ISIS sympathizer and basically promotes chopping the president's head off.
mike cernovich
There's a big terrorist connection between Hollywood and ISIS and that Kathy Griffin thing was a direct effigy.
It was a direct unconscious message to ISIS to say that we love you and we worship you and that we adore you.
That was the whole reason she did that.
It was a tribute to ISIS.
And then by having Kathy Griffin hold that head with all the blood on it.
That was their way of saying, we agree with ISIS.
And of course, the fake news media, CNN has not fired Kathy Griffin, which tells me that CNN therefore supports ISIS.
I can't reach any other conclusion, do you?
alex jones
CNN's who we're targeting, because she works for CNN.
She doesn't just do the ball drop.
She's routinely on CNN.
She does comedy for them.
I see her on there all the time.
I don't even watch much CNN.
She's a CNN worker.
She's a CNN employee.
And to fund this, we're going to sell a t-shirt.
You also get $1,000 or $2,500.
If you're seen wearing the t-shirt on national TV, C-SPAN, your local news, if that then gets picked up nationally or goes viral, I will choose $1,000 or $2,500 until it hits $200,000.
dan friesen
Alex and Mike Cernovich were so up in arms about the Kathy Griffin picture that they started a campaign to get people to buy shirts that said CNN is ISIS.
And then they paid people to yell that on live TV.
The argument, according to these idiots, was that Griffin was signaling to ISIS and if CNN didn't fire her, that means they also support ISIS.
It's very, very stupid.
And I remember it very clearly.
It was a sad day.
And I was listening back to this.
I was like, hey, where's Mike Cernovich at?
Alex hasn't talked to him in a while.
Oh, where's Ali Alexander, Alex?
jordan holmes
Oh, there.
dan friesen
So I guess the message Alex wants to give us about free speech is that when a comedian does something that's politically distasteful, it's a travesty when that person is fired if they're on the right wing.
However, if they're left wing, you need to offer $200,000 to wage a public pressure campaign to label them as an ISIS sympathizer to get their employee to employer to fire them, lest they be labeled ISIS supporters as well.
This is a coherent ideology and totally not Alex just pretending to.
to have principles because he's a dumb piece of shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I can't.
dan friesen
Also, Oscar Sayoc, he tried to bomb the CNN headquarters in Atlanta, too.
So that was strange.
jordan holmes
Who could have seen that coming?
dan friesen
Very weird.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I've not given a fuck about any right-wing cancel culture bullshit.
Mainly because I was alive when the Dixie chick said, war is bad.
And then everyone on every side went apeshit for no reason.
dan friesen
I think that what she said was, Natalie Mayne said that she was ashamed that the president was from Texas.
It's not war is bad.
unidentified
It's slightly different, but I get what you're saying.
jordan holmes
Sorry, it's even less innocuous.
It's even more innocuous.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Canceled.
dan friesen
Hashtag Dixie Chicks burning party.
Burning those CDs.
jordan holmes
Unreal.
Unreal.
They're just full of shit.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So Alex, look, he's got the smoking gun of smoking gun of smoking guns, but he needed to talk to Ted Nugent because he's a big star.
He needed to talk to Dr. Bartlett because he's a guy who's got medical solutions.
And then he needed to talk to this comedian because he got canceled or something.
This guy I've never heard of is on a tour that I would have never known happened.
jordan holmes
Wouldn't have cared either way.
dan friesen
Nope.
But now, now, it's time to get down to the smoking gun of smoking gun of smoking guns.
jordan holmes
Okay.
It's about time.
alex jones
So, this isn't a game.
It's very serious.
And it makes me angry that the system's trying to suppress us and trying to cherry-pick things we've said or done out of context to try to silence us.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, what?
alex jones
When we're fighting this corrupt, murderous system for all of our futures collectively.
So I got a bunch of new breaking news I want to hit.
And I want to just say this right now.
I salute and I commend and I thank all of our affiliates, the great crew that puts up with me, both the production crew and the rest of the crew here at InfoWars, because I'm an intense person, especially these days, and I want to thank my family, and I want to thank God, of course, most importantly, for a hedge of protection if God deems that that needs to be done.
jordan holmes
Did you win an Oscar?
What is happening?
alex jones
I just want you to know how serious this time is.
And how thankful I've been knowing you for 27, 28 years being on air.
Some of you have been listening that long.
It doesn't matter whether you tuned in today for the first time or you tuned in a month ago or you tuned in five years ago or 27 years ago.
I appreciate all of you.
This has been one hell of a fight.
What?
dan friesen
This really sounds like...
jordan holmes
That's a retirement, right?
dan friesen
I mean, it sounds like two things.
One, saying goodbye.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Although I remember like a year ago he recorded his fake last show.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Yep.
I'm looking forward to going back and visiting that one.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So he's sort of pretending he's saying goodbye because it's really dramatic.
But it's also like, I know this is a plug.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I know this is a plug.
I was listening to that and I was like, just get to the fucking plug already.
jordan holmes
Nobody is listening to your thank yous and going, that's genuine.
anthony fauci
No one.
jordan holmes
No one cares.
dan friesen
It's like, this is going to weave towards the fucking plug.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And so here, I'm going to fast forward about two minutes of him rambling.
unidentified
Two minutes!
alex jones
Yeah.
They did this on purpose.
You understand Fauci cooked it up and it's all confirmed.
You understand they bragged on TV how they did it.
And that's now the featured video at Bandai Video.
And so, yeah, great.
It'll get a couple million views.
The globalists see that and go, oh my God, this guy's reaching out.
He's busting through the blockade.
We got to silence him.
And I morally cannot stop what I'm doing.
I morally am over the target.
And I'm hitting the enemy hard.
We're all hitting them together.
And I can't pull off.
I can't pull off.
This bombing run.
I've got to just stay here and keep dropping the bombs even though they've got their spotlights on me and they're shooting and they're hitting me.
Because they're going to get everybody if we don't stay in this position and just keep attacking with the truth.
This isn't like attack a little and then disappear back like a guerrilla operation.
This is information warfare.
This is the truth.
And if I went away tomorrow and backed off, they would demonize me, lie about me, and use me as a tool of evil.
So I can't do that.
But the only way I'm able to get our articles and videos and the truth of what we've said out is you.
I'm banned on all these platforms, but you can take clips.
You can share them.
You can get them out and understand that it's not just about saving Infowars or Alex Jones.
It's about holding up the truth and defending it and celebrating it together.
So I need you to support the show.
I need you to pray for the show.
I need you to buy products that are already great for you and your family.
So I'm going to just say this.
We've got the big sale going right now.
It's the Infowars emergency supply chain breakdown sale.
And it's up to 50% off across the board.
dan friesen
It's the emergency, I'm gonna have to pay out these lawsuits.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
I'm fucked.
jordan holmes
It's the I'm fucked sale.
dan friesen
I mean, it's so shocking to me that he wouldn't recognize how transparent his tone is when it's like, I need to really over-dramatize what is going to end up in a plug.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It takes minutes.
It takes minutes for the preamble of the plug.
jordan holmes
Unfair.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Unfair.
I mean, I was thinking just like, God, if I was there, I would have some sort of like playoff, you know, like at Oscars.
I would just immediately, he's going on too long.
It's just, you can feel it.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
You can taste it.
jordan holmes
And then it gradually gets louder.
He's like, okay, we got to sell some shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, I just.
I think that there are times when you can get a smoothly done ad pitch.
And I could be sitting there and be like, this guy's got the goods.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
You know, but this is not that.
jordan holmes
I mean, I remember back in the day, I was...
Sometimes duly impressed by his throws to ads.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I think some of it is just like being worn down over time.
Like, for us, we just see it over and over again.
But also, this is worse.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, that one's too obvious.
dan friesen
Yeah, so he rambles a bit more, and this is...
alex jones
There's a lot going on, and you've got my commitment to burn the midnight oil.
Because I understand we're in the zeitgeist.
We're in the window of change.
The enemy knows it, and the devil sends the beast with wrath because he knows the time is short, and our time is short as well.
And I'm not risking my life and putting it all on the line to lose this thing.
And losing means losing humanity.
I'm not worried about me.
Seriously, folks, you've got to get in that zone, and then they can do nothing to you.
Like in V for Vendetta, when she's ready to die, and he goes, now you're free.
That's what this is about.
Separately, I would get prepared.
You know, satellite phones are great to have.
You get all the free calls to the cell phone.
It's only the calls out that cost you.
And the phone is a $600-plus value, one of the best phones they've got.
dan friesen
Yeah, so he plugs the satellite phone.
This is outrageous.
jordan holmes
Look, this satellite phone's too good.
We're going to have to put a clock on this one.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
I just...
I mean, it's depressing.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's real sad.
Look.
Okay.
We got the smoking gun of smoking gun of smoking guns.
But we needed to talk to Ted Nugent because he's a star.
We needed to talk to Dr. Bartlett because he's a doctor.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
We needed to talk to a comic because he's canceled.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then we needed to do some ads because we, I'm losing this lawsuit.
jordan holmes
We gotta keep the lights on.
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
Losing the lawsuit.
dan friesen
But now, finally, with a couple minutes left in the show.
jordan holmes
Don't you do this.
Don't you do this.
dan friesen
Oh, God.
alex jones
There's so many cases of Antifa just shooting people randomly.
Oh, you're an anti-vax parade?
We'll just shoot you because you're white.
And it's weirdo, white, devil-worshipper meth-heads nine times out of ten that are doing it.
Absolutely disgusting little rodents.
Usually they're professors or assistant professors.
jordan holmes
Shooting people.
alex jones
In fact, I meant to get to that footage last week of the weird woman with the shaved head and, like, the goat beard.
She's like, I'm ugly.
I love being gross.
Maybe find that for the next segment if you can't remember what I'm talking about.
It was going to air, like, last Friday.
And, and, or maybe last Thursday, but it's just that they're just, yeah, there it is.
Yeah, let's hear from her.
Go ahead and pipe the audio in.
Here she is.
unidentified
I have this thing.
Call it a little quirk, if you will.
I have hair in my armpit.
I have it there for a few reasons.
alex jones
One, lazy.
unidentified
Two, fuck the patriarchy.
And three, your response to them tells me everything I need to know about you.
My response to this is...
I hope you find happiness, but the chances of that are very, very, very low, and I pity you.
I do.
alex jones
I mean, there you go, ladies and gentlemen.
If you're not a radio listener, or you are a radio listener, and you're a TV viewer, you're very lucky that you're a radio listener and did not have to look at her, because she is as disgusting as she can be.
jordan holmes
Wow!
alex jones
She accentuates the weird little role.
jordan holmes
Holy shit, man!
alex jones
She has her hands shaved, except for like a...
Genghis Khan's ponytail on the back.
She's got giant, disgusting sideburns.
dan friesen
What the fuck are we doing, man?
unidentified
I mean...
dan friesen
I thought that we had the bombshell.
I thought we had the smoking gun.
He decides to take up the end of the show complaining about a woman that I guess he's decided is unattractive.
I don't know.
This is so stupid.
The show is the worst.
jordan holmes
Unreal.
They could not have been...
Like, they couldn't...
They couldn't resist.
Her last line is literally, how you react to it tells me everything I need to know about you.
And you guys told her everything you need to know about her.
I mean, it's amazing.
It's amazing how you couldn't...
It was like she teed it up through time itself for them to pay it off.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, basically.
jordan holmes
Wild.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's just armpits.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's just hair, man.
dan friesen
And I would imagine that someone who has armpit hair is very capable of finding whatever happiness someone who shaves their armpits would.
jordan holmes
Not hard.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
It's very easy.
A lot of people, and I'm going to throw this out to you.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
And Alex...
And whoever that guy was.
Was that still the comic?
dan friesen
I have no idea.
I think that was in the clip that Alex was playing.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
I think he took it from somebody else's commentary about this woman.
jordan holmes
Oh, fuck me.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
So, yeah.
I mean, we just can't not shame her for not conforming to your appearance expectations.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
I don't even know how you can live like that.
dan friesen
It seems exhausting.
jordan holmes
Somebody has hairy armpits somewhere!
dan friesen
You know what?
That's probably more emotionally exhausting than the time that it took me to assess the claims that he was making about that C-SPAN video.
You know what would have been easier for Alex, maybe?
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
Actually, it wouldn't.
It would have been infinitely harder for him because he is a liar.
Cover the actual stuff you are supposed to cover.
jordan holmes
Give it a shot.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think that would have been good.
jordan holmes
Hey, let's do two bets.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
All right?
jordan holmes
First bet, you take the vaccine, you die.
I take the vaccine, I live.
We're fine.
All right?
Second bet, try doing your job one day.
See how it goes.
dan friesen
I think it would be a disaster.
I just, I don't know.
I'd love to see him try to be serious and actually cover something.
Brutal.
Look, we didn't learn a lot.
jordan holmes
No.
No, we didn't.
unidentified
Mm-mm.
jordan holmes
Proudly.
dan friesen
Yep.
We already knew that Ted Nugent sucks.
jordan holmes
He sucks so bad.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway, Jordan, that's our episode.
We will be back, though.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's that knowledge underscore fight.
And I go to bed, Jordan.
dan friesen
That is correct.
We will be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robot.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
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