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Oct. 8, 2021 - Knowledge Fight
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#603: October 3-4, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan check in on the present day of The Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex needs money, multiple power-point presentations get discussed, and Alex really, really needs money right now. Citations

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alex jones
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dan friesen
55:01
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jordan holmes
32:03
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mike adams
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unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and George.
Knowledge fight.
Need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Stop it.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Andy in Kansas.
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
I have a quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot today.
My bright spot today, Jordan.
Yes, Dan.
Is, I mean, look.
It's going to be couched in sort of a negative...
Right.
But it is a bright spot.
It is all the positive feedback from the last episode.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
On Monday's episode, there was just a flood of people saying such positive things about the episode.
And that is really nice, although it is very hard for me to deal with having the brain that I have.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
It's dastardly.
dan friesen
It's as if I'm being given terrible feedback if I were a normal person.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
That's how my body experiences it.
But it's kind of immersion therapy, you know, to compliment and positive.
And I appreciate that, because I've got to get better at it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, I mean, you're a bit like a balloon.
You can handle a certain amount of puffing up, but go too far and that sucker's going to pop, man.
And that was a flood of positive stuff.
dan friesen
But I'm also like a balloon that can only handle a tiny bit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're a very small balloon.
I was trying to be really nice and not say you were a tiny balloon.
dan friesen
I'm a balloon that functions best when it's about...
Empty.
jordan holmes
Yes, yeah, yeah.
You are the one remaining Luftballon, if you will.
dan friesen
But I'm, you know, it's something that I've been trying to get better at, like accepting positive stuff.
And, you know, I definitely appreciate it.
I was happy with the episode.
Yeah, it was fantastic.
So yeah, thank you everyone for all the kind words.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you to everyone for that.
dan friesen
What about you?
jordan holmes
Me?
I mean, obviously, that was very kind.
I feel like whatever I say after that.
That is going to be a real letdown.
But it's my partner's birthday coming up soon.
dan friesen
Happy birthday.
jordan holmes
And we have decided at this point, you know, I used to go out like four or five nights a week for a decade, you know?
dan friesen
Yeah, doing comedy.
jordan holmes
And then in the past two, three years, it's just dwindled down to almost nothing.
Like, I just stay in all the time.
So we're going to start doing just weird, random stuff.
And so for her birthday this year, we have decided to go to a casino.
dan friesen
Ooh, fun.
jordan holmes
Neither of us gamble.
Neither of us like to gamble.
dan friesen
You're gonna be overwhelmed.
jordan holmes
It's basically a spin the wheel and we'll just go.
dan friesen
You guys are gonna be so overwhelmed.
jordan holmes
Oh no, we're screwed.
dan friesen
We're screwed.
It's gonna be so depressing.
I don't think you understand the type of...
The cross-section you get when you go to a casino.
People just sitting there at the slots, just endlessly pulling.
jordan holmes
Oh, I've been to Vegas twice, and it was the worst both times.
This one, I think, is going to be in...
In either Indiana or Michigan or Wisconsin or whatever.
dan friesen
Oh, it'll be way better.
jordan holmes
So it's going to be a disgusting affair, but I can't wait.
It's just...
Put it on the list, man!
Spin the wheel!
dan friesen
That sounds depressing, but one fun thing that a friend and his...
I guess his wife did.
They would go and they would choose a random L-stop.
On a line that they don't usually go on.
Yeah.
And just get off and spend the day around that L stop.
jordan holmes
That's a fantastic idea.
dan friesen
That's a way to have some kind of excitement, randomness, culture, and it won't be as depressing as going to the fucking casino.
jordan holmes
And see the city that you fucking love so much.
Somehow we just do not see the city.
dan friesen
Stuff that wouldn't be on your normal beaten path.
jordan holmes
Yep, that's way smarter.
Too bad, we're going to a casino, Dan.
dan friesen
I should tell you.
So, in Missouri, there's the Riverboat Casino.
That was a good, like, half-hour drive, maybe 45-minute drive from Columbia.
And so, me and my buddy, Nicky Gifts, and a burger.
I think some other people like to go, too, but those are the two buddies that I remember who, like, we would go to the casino.
Just go to the casino!
And we spent some time down there, wasted.
I don't know how this happened.
jordan holmes
Okay.
That's a good start.
dan friesen
But I think Nick won like a free buffet at the casino.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And we went on Valentine's Day.
jordan holmes
Me, Burger, and Nicky Gifts.
That's the saddest place in the world.
dan friesen
We got a steak at the casino.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Not finest moment, but I do remember it being pretty fun.
jordan holmes
That sounds good.
There are worse ways to spend a few hours and a hundred bucks, right?
dan friesen
A couple of good buddies, a poorly cooked steak.
jordan holmes
Yeah, what are you going to do?
dan friesen
Getting mad at Nick because he keeps winning on the three-card poker.
jordan holmes
Five games of $10 blackjack and then it's all gone.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we have some episode to get into.
We're going to be talking about October 3rd and 4th.
jordan holmes
Oh, I was slow.
dan friesen
Yeah, so I wanted to check in on Alex's response to, of course, losing these cases.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
By default.
jordan holmes
Being a big loser.
dan friesen
Being a huge loser.
jordan holmes
Losiest loser ever?
dan friesen
Quite a big loser.
jordan holmes
Oh, man, what a big loser.
dan friesen
So October 3rd is Sunday's episode, and Monday is...
The fourth.
And so we're going to dive into this.
But before we do, let's say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, Joy.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, David.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, David.
dan friesen
Next, Red the Red Kitty.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Red.
dan friesen
Next, Tiny Bullhorn Operators Union 42021.
And then my addition, Blackjack.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
And we have a technocrat in the mix, so thank you so much.
And hello to Marl Karks.
Thank you so much.
I'm a policy wonk.
alex jones
Crikey, mate.
That's fantastic.
Have yourself a brew.
How's your 401k doing, bro?
All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right?
Let's just get down to business.
We ain't making that money off that heroin.
Why are you pimp so good?
My neck is freakishly large.
I declare Infowar on you.
dan friesen
Thank you, Marl Kirk.
jordan holmes
Yes, thank you very much.
dan friesen
Also, Brandy W. Indeed.
Sent an email.
Wanted to know if we had wished a happy birthday to Greg.
She had emailed us a long time ago.
jordan holmes
During the time period when we were doing birthdays.
Let's make this clear.
We are not restarting birthdays.
That is not happening.
But during the time period wherein we had an obligation to birthday eyes.
dan friesen
Yes.
Well, we didn't have an obligation, but we had a reasonable expectation.
And I think, yeah, she wanted to know when we had done it.
What episode was it on?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
We might have.
jordan holmes
Well, I'm almost positive we did.
dan friesen
I can't remember.
jordan holmes
No clue.
dan friesen
So just in case.
jordan holmes
Yes, 100% just in case.
dan friesen
From Brandy, we'd like to wish you a happy birthday, Greg.
alex jones
Giving someone life is giving someone death.
You could say that...
Life is death.
dan friesen
Happy birthday.
jordan holmes
Happy birthday.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, we jump in here on Sunday, Sunday, Sunday.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex has a headspace that he's in.
Obviously not good.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
unidentified
Why is that?
dan friesen
Well, there's some law things.
But he knows that there's a difference between emotional reaction and thought-out...
Calm decision-making.
jordan holmes
Okay, so he's about to tell us that it's fine for all of humanity to die, then.
dan friesen
Well, somebody's got to die.
alex jones
We really should all just sit back for a moment and take a deep breath and cogitate or meditate or just think very deeply and very calmly and very serenely.
jordan holmes
So stop, meditate, soak in.
And listen?
alex jones
At a cerebral level.
And then we have to make decisions at a cerebral level and then emotionally, once we've made our decisions in a very calm way, use the emotions the good Lord gave us to very aggressively power our intellect against the globalists.
You can intellectually decide that you're going to do something like unscrew a despot's head.
But then if you're going to do it physically, it takes the horsepower psychologically, mentally, and physically to actually break that neck quickly and easily.
I just use that as a historical metaphor.
unidentified
Yes, what a very historical metaphor that is.
jordan holmes
Historically!
As we all know.
dan friesen
You must calmly decide to do something and then let your emotions take over as you kill.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was an adventure.
That was an adventure of like, hey, let's cogitate, let's think, let's think about that, let's cogitate all over this, meditate on it.
I want to tear a despot's head off.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
So I need to emotionally prepare to tear it.
dan friesen
Take the emotion part out of it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
If you just go on emotions, you won't be able to achieve your goal.
jordan holmes
I won't be able to get there.
dan friesen
No, probably not.
jordan holmes
Somebody will stop me in advance.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
Because I'll be like, hey, I'm going to tear your head off!
And the guys are like, no, we are not going to let you do that.
dan friesen
You need to focus in a zen state.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And get your resolve ready and know that your goal is to twist off despot head.
jordan holmes
So I'll paint myself like the wall of a bank, and then when a despot walks by, I'll just appear and tear his head off.
See, now that's how you think things through.
dan friesen
You've been cogitating.
jordan holmes
This is cogitation!
dan friesen
So, this is a no man's land of nonsense.
And then it gets worse, because a little bit into the show, we get a guest.
I'll give you one clue about who he is.
He's a health ranger.
It's Mike Adams.
alex jones
Mike Adams joins us.
He did a great job reporting on a story that broke Thursday evening.
A lot of different angles to it.
He went with the angle of AI-powered...
DOD data analysis program named Project Solace shatters official vaccine narrative, shows ADE accelerating in the fully vaccinated with each passing week.
And there's other angles to it, but ADE is the big one.
And again, for people that saw this and didn't follow the links, I have a whole stack of articles here that I'll show TV viewers first.
This is from Mainstream News.
This is from the Pentagon's...
On site, effectiveness of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines against the Delta variant amongst 5.6 million Medicare beneficiaries 65 years and older.
This is a particular study.
It came out September 28, 2021.
It got discovered by a lawyer that's involved in these lawsuits against him, and it's now come out.
So this is put out by the Pentagon.
dan friesen
So first of all, it's important to note that this is Project Salus, not Project Solus.
Project Solus is a 2D platformer you can buy on Steam, whereas Salus is an AI initiative that's run by the Department of Defense.
unidentified
Fair enough.
dan friesen
The JAIC...
jordan holmes
What about Project Cialus?
dan friesen
That's something else entirely.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
The JAIC, or the Joint Artificial Intelligence Center, launched Project Salus in March 2020 as, quote, a predictive tool to help identify where critical supply chain shortages were occurring during the pandemic.
Essentially, it compiled a ton of data together and used it to make predictions about where resources should be allocated.
This document that Alex is talking about that Mike Adams has apparently reported on is a PowerPoint presentation that was put together by Humetrix, a medical app developer who was seeking to answer some questions by consulting data from Project Salus.
The central questions they were concerned with had to do with vaccine effectiveness and whether or not it waned over time.
They were further interested in reduced effectiveness with the Delta variant and among people in subpopulations within the data.
jordan holmes
Right.
Information that it would be hard to just compile and analyze on your own.
dan friesen
Essentially, they found that there may be some concern about waning effectiveness of the mRNA vaccines, but there's some huge caveats you have to give when discussing this PowerPoint presentation.
The first thing is that the data that they're using only covers people 65 and older.
It's not necessarily something that you can extrapolate out into the entire population.
Also, a very important point is that this is a PowerPoint presentation.
If you're looking at the slides, you can see what are basically the visual aids that someone has put together to help them in giving a lecture.
You're missing the essential context of the person's actual presentation which isn't being captured in the PowerPoint.
Case in point is slide number nine.
They were looking at vaccine effectiveness in a three to four month post-vaccination period and five to six months post.
This slide shows that their age distribution is heavily skewed, with people 85 and older making up 43% of the folks in the five to six month group, but only 14% in the three to four month group.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Conversely, people age 65 to 74 made up 51% of the three to four month group and only 24% of the five to six month group.
The fact that the five- to six-month group skews much older could introduce confounding variables that make the analysis more complicated, and as such, the slide includes a discussion question on the sidebar.
If you only have the PowerPoint to go off of, you have this discussion question, but you don't have the discussion.
Also, none of the stuff that Alex is saying about this having to do with ADE is real at all.
It's just made up explanations for data that they don't care to try to understand.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
It's a bunch of bullshit.
They're going off a PowerPoint presentation.
Yeah.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Could...
Having a large number of people who, six months after anything, might be dead skew our results?
dan friesen
This isn't even about deaths.
This is about breakthrough infections.
jordan holmes
I know, but yes.
I mean, obviously, there's no way that that can't have some effect on your data reporting.
dan friesen
But the data that's being presented in this PowerPoint presentation, if everything is above board, It does introduce some interesting questions for people to look into, but it does not introduce conclusions.
They're being unfair.
jordan holmes
Now, I don't know.
If Mike Adams gets his hand on a PowerPoint presentation, that's all I need to hear.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
That's what I needed to know.
dan friesen
Mike, the Dramatic Ranger, is back.
jordan holmes
It's over for humanity.
mike adams
This has been on the Humetrix website as of Friday.
It was still live on there.
I don't know if it's there now, but this is DOD.
This is their JAIC, their artificial intelligence program.
So no one can argue that this is not some secret source somewhere.
This is open source intelligence.
What it shows, a couple of very important things.
One is that the negative side effects from the vaccine get worse over time with each passing week.
And so the negative outcomes, which includes hospitalizations and ICU outcomes, as well as deaths, it's very bad at three to four months.
Roughly doubles in about six months.
dan friesen
So this PowerPoint presentation has nothing to do with negative side effects of the vaccine that he seems to be applying?
jordan holmes
I was gonna say, is he trying to say that when you get the vaccine you have negative side effects that only continue to get worse?
dan friesen
Apparently.
I mean, like, this document is entirely about the efficacy over time of the vaccine, factoring in age group as a variable.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
While that was totally made up, it's fair to say that this slideshow does seem to indicate that there is an increase in breakthrough cases and thus a decrease in vaccine efficacy between the 3-4 month and 5-6 month groups.
Mike is ignoring all the context and the suggestions of possible explanations for the data presented because he has his own explanation that he just wants to jam down the audience's throat.
Also, on slide 6, it literally says that the rate of hospitalization dropped by a third, comparing breakthrough cases to people in the same age group who just got COVID before the vaccines rolled out in March to December 2020.
Not only that, in breakthrough infections, there was a 2.1% death rate among people age 65 and up compared to a 12% death rate in that same period between March and December 2020.
Mike is entirely misrepresenting this PowerPoint presentation in order to make a fraudulent argument against vaccination.
This is surprisingly weak stuff from the Health Ranger.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
I'm underwhelmed.
jordan holmes
You know, since I was growing up, I always saw Rangers as like...
dan friesen
The lone.
jordan holmes
Like, no.
dan friesen
The Texas.
jordan holmes
Aragorn.
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
I'm talking about Strider.
I'm talking about somebody who's just going from place to place, exiled, used to be a king or whatever, solving problems.
And this man is...
No Aragorn, sir.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No Aragorn at all.
dan friesen
I would love for you to slap Mike Adams with a glove.
jordan holmes
How dare you, sir!
unidentified
I know Aragorn, and you are no Aragorn, sir!
dan friesen
So, not only is Mike misrepresenting and misusing this data, he just decides that he can do whatever he wants with it.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's nice!
dan friesen
Yeah, it's so fun when there's no rules.
jordan holmes
I like it.
mike adams
This looks like a flatline projection, so if we continue to project this out further in time to, let's say, 9 months or 12 months, which is coming up in our immediate future, It looks like this is going to triple the three-month negative effects or perhaps quadruple the three-month negative effects at 12 months.
And it looks like, Alex, that we're going to see probably, this is my estimation, this is not in the report, but by my estimation, we're going to see millions of Americans suffering severe hospitalizations and deaths over the next six months due to the vaccines.
So that's where we are.
dan friesen
So Mike's making all that up.
What he's saying is that he looked at this graph and he decided to draw what he wants after the data stops.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, look, I mean...
dan friesen
That's all he's doing.
jordan holmes
One year, I think Schwarber, I want to say it was 2019 maybe, 2018, 2019.
On the first at bat, Schwarber was leading off and he hit a home run.
This would be exactly like if Mike Adams was like, well, obviously he's going to hit 162 this year.
If he hits it one on one game, that's one every game.
dan friesen
Well, and not only that, but...
Every at-bat.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
It could be anywhere from a 500 home run!
You'll never know!
dan friesen
Just based on the information in this PowerPoint presentation, there are very strong indications that Mike will be totally wrong with these predictions.
For one thing, he seems to be ignoring that this data is just a group of people 65 and older.
Secondly, because the age distribution in the 3-4 month group and the 5-6 month group is so different, there's not necessarily going to be this straight-line phenomenon Mike is predicting.
As time goes on, the average age of people getting vaccinated tends to go down because the elderly were a top priority initially for vaccination.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
The proportion of the people aged 85 and older goes way down in the three to four month group and also the vaccine efficacy numbers go up.
It's entirely possible that there's some relationship between age and mRNA vaccine efficacy that we are yet to discover.
The point is that there's a lot of possible explanations for the data in this PowerPoint slide, and Mike is just making shit up so he can act like a dramatic little baby talking about millions dead on Alex, because that's how they have fun and make money.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's real sad.
It's real sad.
Like, I mean...
To take something that so obviously shows a massive improvement over not getting a vaccine and then being like, see, I bet after three months it's four times as bad as it was after two days!
dan friesen
But you know what?
If the numbers do show that there's a four times higher after nine months...
That will just be those people.
All that will be is an indication that it's even lower numbers for people in the later cohorts.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
So, I don't know.
This is all stupid.
jordan holmes
Insane.
dan friesen
So, there is one piece of information that is in this PowerPoint presentation that Mike latches onto that actually isn't all that surprising.
unidentified
Okay.
mike adams
So, the other major finding of this report is that the...
The number one most important factor that reduced serious complications over time was to have a previous COVID-19 infection.
So this document actually confirms that natural immunity is the number one best protective effect against negative outcomes following vaccination.
Let me state that in a little bit different way, because I know it sounds odd.
alex jones
A lot of people are taking the vaccines even though they've already had the illness and been sick.
And so what we're finding is people that naturally already had it, even though this injection has compromised them and set them up for death, the body is so smart it's able to figure it out if it's already been in contact with it because it's the vaccine itself creating that in the body.
Is that right?
jordan holmes
Is that right?
mike adams
That's part of it.
jordan holmes
Is that part of it?
mike adams
If...
Here's the weird...
alex jones
Start over.
This is really important.
This is really important.
dan friesen
So it makes sense that having had COVID previously would give you a leg up in terms of immune response.
A lot of the science hasn't been totally clear on the exact extent to which people become immune for COVID after they get it, but there is some effect.
It's, you know, we'll know more later.
Again, though, I need to stress that this data set is entirely comprised of individuals age 65 and older, and it's not sensible to think that this can be applied to the general population.
Alex confused himself there because the narrative on Infowars up to this point is that the mRNA vaccines train your body to attack itself.
And Alex has been very clear that he believes that if you get the vaccine after having COVID, you're as good as dead.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
It's gonna fucking kill you.
jordan holmes
You got it.
dan friesen
This slideshow that Mike is covering shows some indications to the contrary.
So Alex has to figure out a way to dance around that in a ton of words, hoping that the audience doesn't realize that this is the exact opposite of what he's been saying for months.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's just a fucking word salad he threw out there.
To avoid saying the very obvious thing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, oh God.
dan friesen
Because it's directly contradictory to this shit.
jordan holmes
God, that's so...
You're so stupid.
dan friesen
Here's where things get a little bit dicey.
jordan holmes
Just here?
dan friesen
A lot of places.
But this one might be...
jordan holmes
This is our fork in the road.
dan friesen
When Mike comes on, there's usually something that's like, oh boy.
jordan holmes
Oh, we're taking exit 121B to Diceville.
dan friesen
Oh yes.
jordan holmes
Okay.
mike adams
If you plan to get vaccinated, according to these data put out by the DOD, the number one thing that you can do to survive the vaccine is to get COVID before you take the vaccine.
That's in the data.
That's what it shows.
So for those people who have been infected and then they get the vaccine, they are probably likely to have lower incidence of negative outcomes versus people who never had any infection.
alex jones
And the report says that shows how incredible our body is.
It gets it learns how it later gets the deadly vaccine and then isn't as apt to go into the ADE.
mike adams
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
I appreciate the restraint, but I mean, like the implication that he's giving is like, if you're going to get the vaccine, go give yourself COVID first.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is getting dangerously close to him saying you should infect yourself on purpose.
jordan holmes
The number one thing you can do to survive a bullet wound is to have it not hit you in the head or the heart.
So, the number one way to survive the vaccine is to not be killed by COVID one way or the other.
Yes.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, I think that this is dangerous advice for a number of reasons.
jordan holmes
A lot of reasons.
dan friesen
You put people around you at greater risk.
You could have severe complications.
You could die.
Yeah, this is...
I mean, he's supposed to be the health ranger.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think...
dan friesen
This is stupid.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, he did try and give everybody Ebola that one time.
dan friesen
Well, that was in the name of curing.
unidentified
Yeah, sure.
jordan holmes
For somebody who doesn't believe in vaccines, drink a little Ebola.
dan friesen
You put some vodka in there.
jordan holmes
Put a little vodka in your Ebola and you'll have a good time.
You want to make sure it's disinfected.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Makes sense.
jordan holmes
I mean, the thing that weirdly got me there is, is this the only way that they can get people to justify getting the vaccine?
Because I'm sure most of his audience has already had COVID.
They haven't been being safe whatsoever.
So is this like the angle that they're doing of like, listen, they're making you get the vaccine now.
We've got all these vaccine mandates.
But guess what?
If you've already had COVID, you're actually going to be fine with this vaccine.
I know I've been telling you that the vaccine is going to murder you and your family and your children and everyone you've ever met.
dan friesen
It might be a way to backdoor like a narrative.
Later, for the vaccine not killing everybody.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Then it could be like, well, you actually had COVID before you got the vaccine, and that's why it didn't kill you.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
I think that that's probably productive for them.
I think that would be a way around this.
But functionally, as it stands, it's also basically saying you should go get COVID.
Which sucks.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
It's like, hey, go and have a...
You know how kids used to have chicken pox parties?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Go do one of those.
And, I mean, one out of every, what?
Ten of you will die.
No big deal.
dan friesen
So anyway, Mike misuses some more of this data in order to claim that this is an ethnic bioweapon.
jordan holmes
Sure.
mike adams
Yeah, exactly.
But also notice the last slide of this, slide 17. It also shows the ethnic groups that are most affected by this.
That's slide 17, and it shows that Native Americans have the highest rate of increased odds of negative outcomes.
So if you're Native American and you're getting this vaccine, you have about a 1.5 times higher risk of death and negative side effects compared to Caucasians.
If you're Hispanic, it's about a roughly 1.3 to 1.4 times greater odds.
If you're black, It's something more like 1.25, roughly in that range.
But the point is, this vaccine has ethnic effects that, you know, there have been many people out there warning about the possibility of this vaccine being a biological weapon.
dan friesen
This is not a responsible reading of this graph at all.
There is a higher risk of hospitalization in breakthrough cases among people of Native American populations, but this slide alone is not enough to demonstrate that there's a causal relationship.
Throughout the pandemic, if you cared to listen, people were talking a bunch about disproportionately high rates of infection and death among Native communities.
This is part of a longstanding conversation, and there are a number of hypotheses given for the numbers, including a higher rate of shared and intergenerational housing, decreased access to health care, and higher prevalence of COVID-19 comorbidities This is something relevant.
For sure, and it's something that researchers are keeping an eye on and discussing, but the way that Mike's talking about this stuff is just not, it's not connected to reality.
jordan holmes
I mean, it does sound like he's literally saying that, once again, smallpox blankets are roaming across this land, tearing everybody to pieces, which is, I mean, not terribly wrong.
dan friesen
So now, in this next clip, what I think is just...
Spectacular.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Is that everything that Alex says is made up.
jordan holmes
Okay, everything?
alex jones
So I want to talk about that here in a few minutes, but just going back to this, because we could talk 10 hours about this, to have the Pentagon's main AI program that's all over the news, monitoring deaths, monitoring what's happening, and then they just put out a report, what it does, and they're honest about it, but no political statements are in it, and it says that you're way more likely to die if you've had these shots.
That it's erasing your regular immune system.
jordan holmes
You said the opposite of that.
alex jones
Turn way up, though, if it comes into contact with a similar virus, not just COVID, but any other coronavirus.
dan friesen
None of that's in the report and the primary sourcing that they're providing.
jordan holmes
What is the Pentagon's main AI?
You know what I'm saying?
Which is the main one?
dan friesen
How?
jordan holmes
Are they still using Hal?
dan friesen
I guess.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I would hope we're way past Hal.
I mean, at least Hal 11,000 by now.
dan friesen
Halbert.
jordan holmes
Halbert?
dan friesen
Halliburton.
unidentified
Holy shit.
dan friesen
Holy shit.
jordan holmes
Nobody in Halliburton's a real human being!
dan friesen
Crack the code.
jordan holmes
It's all artificial intelligence!
dan friesen
Okay.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
That was great.
dan friesen
So Mike believes, without any kind of...
Proof.
That they're spraying cities with COVID.
jordan holmes
Yeah, why not?
dan friesen
Yeah.
And then Alex has an interesting rejoinder.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
mike adams
Can they do aerosolized releases of these toxic nanoparticles this coming winter?
Could they release this in the United States?
Could they target a particular city?
Have they already done so in the past?
Personally, this is my opinion, Alex, but I believe they've already done so, and I think they're planning to do so again, and I think they are going to continue.
To commit genocide against not just the American people, but everybody around the world to try to drive people into the vaccines while they're crashing the economy and causing widespread suffering and death and destitution.
alex jones
And as we said 20 months ago here on air...
They will then blame the unvaccinated for the vaccinated dying and others, but to cover it up, they'll then just spray the general public, like my dad and countless others, and almost kill them.
dan friesen
So apparently Alex's dad got sprayed.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Man, it is easier to say that your dad got sprayed than to take responsibility for almost killing your dad, Alex.
You almost killed your dad.
You, personally, almost...
Killed your dad!
dan friesen
Well, maybe not personally, but his behavior was such that it put his dad at a high...
There's a chance.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it's better if his dad was sprayed, other than saying that as a direct result of everything Alex believes, Alex's dad almost died.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's way more fun if a globalist came up with a little flower on his lapel, sprayed him with COVID.
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
unidentified
Ah!
dan friesen
Or maybe it was a seltzer bottle.
jordan holmes
Ah, the seltzer bottle's good.
If you are putting it in a pie, I think you've gone too far.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
A cream pie is just...
dan friesen
Jordan, that's no longer aerosolized.
jordan holmes
That's true.
That's true.
dan friesen
It's important.
jordan holmes
Yes, good point.
dan friesen
You can transmit COVID via pie to the face, though.
jordan holmes
Well, obviously it gets in your nose.
dan friesen
There is a meringue-based distribution.
jordan holmes
There's a meringue-based distribution.
dan friesen
That is possible.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, it is October.
Obviously there's going to be some pumpkin COVID going around.
dan friesen
Pumpkin spice.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So two years ago or so, a little bit less, Mike Adams appeared on the show and declared that it was over for humanity.
There would only be lone survivors.
jordan holmes
And he was right.
dan friesen
Yes.
So now here's his new dramatic prediction.
jordan holmes
Okay.
mike adams
My prediction is people are going to see troops on the streets by Christmas, and they're going to see bodies piling up in certain areas, of course, with a false narrative stating, no, it couldn't have been the vaccines, but this is what we're going to see.
This is the winter die-off.
This is the sort of soft coup military replacement of the infrastructure of first responders and medical workers, and you may have even, at some point, troops in certain areas at grocery stores checking your vaccine.
dan friesen
So, by Christmas, like in two months, two and a half months, we're going to have military on the street, guarding grocery stores, bodies piling up everywhere.
Okay.
unidentified
That seems unlikely.
jordan holmes
An upgrade still over it's over for humanity.
There will only be lone survivors.
He's not going to compete with that.
Okay?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
You can't get more apocalyptic than it's going to be me and Dave over there against no one.
dan friesen
Right, right.
They really...
They shot their shot too early.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
Fine!
It's over for humanity.
There will only be lone survivors.
It was way too early.
And then Alex has already done the I'm going to eat my neighbors thing.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And that's like...
That's where you should...
We should do that.
When you've got the light.
When someone is giving you the light, that's when you talk about eating your neighbors.
Because you don't have another place to go after that.
jordan holmes
Right.
They got stir-crazy because they assumed that the lockdown and the COVID thing wouldn't last as long, so they thought it would be fun to scaremonger about it.
dan friesen
I think they're like a comic who got overexcited and did their closer three minutes into their set.
jordan holmes
Too bad.
Too bad.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Oh, shit.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
I did not have 20. No.
dan friesen
And so the rest of the set is going to just end up being ranting about how you need to get right with God over and over again.
unidentified
Come on.
jordan holmes
I want more soldiers.
alex jones
I've been around other big national talk show hosts and others.
Everybody knows it's the end.
Everybody understands this.
And I feel so sorry for the public.
That's when people ask, hey, they say you lost your lawsuit.
You don't get a jury trial.
People go, that's unconstitutional.
Seventh Amendment.
They don't care.
They've all been told the country's going down, and they think they're the winners.
But, of course, they won't.
Everybody in the system that served it is going down as well.
In fact, they're most of the people that have taken the shots.
It's going to be Democrats dying in mass from the injections they've taken.
I mean, this is biblical.
Get right with God.
Get prepared.
Get ready.
Because this is going down.
dan friesen
It's going down.
Get right with God.
jordan holmes
That's not going to happen, though.
dan friesen
It's just a lot of buffering.
Like, just a lot of filling time with these sort of...
Meaningless platitudes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was really kind of hoping for maybe a Barnes.
I was kind of thinking that a Barnes would show up to let us know that it's actually, he actually won the lawsuit somehow and there's a secret double powerful constitutional amendment that we're going to have.
dan friesen
I feel like if you're Barnes or Norm and you're smart, you stay away.
jordan holmes
Oh, you're gone.
You're out of the country.
dan friesen
You grow a mustache.
Exactly.
jordan holmes
I'm in Brazil, and I got clones.
That's what I'm doing if I'm Norm.
dan friesen
He responds a little bit more to the Sandy Hook stuff on Monday, because this is mostly about Mike Adams' Mike Adams seems to have paid for some time on the program.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he wants a little bit of time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Rand Paul, who Alex loves and he won't debate you.
jordan holmes
Staunchly refuses to debate me still.
dan friesen
He's acting like it's normal at times, right?
It's normal now, but it's not.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
It's not.
jordan holmes
Democrats are going to be dead in mass.
dan friesen
Right.
alex jones
What can the average person do to lessen the blow?
What can Congress do?
Because I see great people like Rand Paul and others.
They don't seem to know how much danger we're all in.
He's confronting Fauci.
He's talking about illegal spying, you know.
But they're still operating from their cocoon like everything's okay, but it's not okay.
I mean, everything's falling apart, and the hospitals are now full of the vaccinated who are seriously ill.
mike adams
I'm not sure they realize how close we are to the end of the American empire, period.
The end of the dollar.
You see, the only way that they're keeping this going and the way that Biden is bribing all of the Democrat groups to carry out more voter fraud on the ground is through money printing.
So the money printing allows them to distribute these trillions of dollars.
They call it a COVID stimulus, but of course, as you know, almost none of it goes to anything related to COVID.
This just goes...
It gets funneled into other groups to keep the Democrats in power.
jordan holmes
At what point have they ever been in power?
mike adams
It will be, of course, catastrophic for the nation.
It would mean the end of America as we know it, at least.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
unidentified
Oh, the Democrats in power.
jordan holmes
That's very funny.
dan friesen
I just think that these villains that these dudes have, they're spreading themselves too thin.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, there's too many plans.
It just makes no sense.
Why do you have to do all these things?
One plan would work.
jordan holmes
Historically, all right, the most successful plans are simple, they strike the enemy's weak point, and then they are done.
It is a quick, effective, and immediate solution.
All other plans are Rube Goldberg machines that make us look like we're idiots.
Like, say, I don't know, starting a war in Iraq or something.
Makes us look dumb.
Short, small, quick.
dan friesen
When you're the devil, you don't want to have different teams working on goals that are completely antithetical to each other and have nothing to do with the larger objective.
And that seems to be how the organizational chart works.
jordan holmes
Here's what I'm thinking.
dan friesen
For Alex.
jordan holmes
Alright, if I'm the devil...
I have all these people that are working for me, but I'm like, I'm the fucking devil.
I don't care about you.
dan friesen
Does he pay them in devil bucks?
jordan holmes
Totally.
Well, I mean, the only way he can afford it is by money printing, of course.
That's what they do.
He calls it a stimulus.
The hell stimulus.
None of it goes to hell, Dan!
It's all tied up in the courts of heaven!
dan friesen
It's all this pork.
jordan holmes
I'm just saying!
I would want to torture the people who loved me by...
Having them work against me.
See, I'm working at cross-purposes to them, so they're fucking up my plan, but actually, my plan is to torture them by making them fail forever.
You see?
unidentified
Aha!
jordan holmes
Now I'm thinking like the devil, sir.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, I guess that makes sense.
jordan holmes
Yes!
Yes!
I guess that makes sense.
Fine.
That's as good as it's gonna get on anything else.
dan friesen
That's the point at which I have to give up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
dan friesen
Oh, wait.
So you're fighting the devil whose plan is to have his followers fight against himself in order to torture them eternally because their plans will not...
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I gotta go, man.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
That's what it is.
I have other things I need to do.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
You need to stay and hear this because it makes sense.
unidentified
Mm-mm.
dan friesen
So there's going to be a lot of planned disasters, according to Mike.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But he won't give a time frame for it.
Although, if you've been listening, he already gave a bit of a time frame.
jordan holmes
Well, December.
mike adams
It's going to be an engineered famine situation, a release of another bioweapon, an energy collapse resulting in at least regional power grid disruptions, and then followed by, at the worst possible time, in my opinion, they're going to cause an economic catastrophe, which may be bank holidays, it may eventually be the actual collapse of the dollar itself, but we can't know the timing, so I'm not making that prediction for this winter.
It's just we know that's inevitable.
It's going to happen.
dan friesen
You don't need all this shit.
You don't need all those things.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Also, I mean, all of those things have already happened in my lifetime.
And we've...
We've still not collapsed the dollar.
Like, we had the financial collapse in 2008.
We've had this fucking pandemic.
We've had so many power outages in the past year that people are shitting in the streets.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
We're fine!
dan friesen
The reason that Mike does stuff like this, and it's scattershot, there's so many different things that just make no sense why someone would have all of these plans operating, is because, like, let's say that there is a famine.
Then he can be like, I called that.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And let's say that, you know, all the other stuff does.
It doesn't come to pass, but there is a famine.
jordan holmes
There you go.
unidentified
Boom.
dan friesen
I called this.
I know what I'm talking about.
Or there is some kind of a financial downturn.
This is what I was talking about.
As long as you make 100 predictions, people ignore that you got 98 wrong if two happen to be close to what ends up happening.
jordan holmes
And the weirdest part is, to me, the weirdest part of all of this is that those things are all the inevitable...
End result of all of the people that he's ever supported getting power.
Like, all of those things just happen because of the people that you want in power.
That's how it works.
dan friesen
There's an irony to that.
jordan holmes
So, but I mean, wouldn't you be better predicting it then?
You're making it happen, essentially.
unidentified
Well...
dan friesen
You don't want to be too obvious about it.
unidentified
Right.
That's fair.
dan friesen
So, you know, Alex lost these Sandy Hook cases, and it turns out there's a reason for that.
And, I mean, some people would say that the reason is because he flagrantly abused the discovery process and was being a total baby and an asshole.
It turns out that's not what Mike thinks.
Mike thinks that there's a more sinister reason that he lost these cases.
jordan holmes
The devil.
mike adams
Alex, it's going to get...
So bad.
I mean, I'm dedicated to staying on air as you are as long as possible.
And frankly, the reason they're coming after InfoWars with the judgment, you know, the witch trials.
You don't even get a jury.
The reason they're doing that is because I think they know there's going to be a secession or nullification.
We're going to have the Republic of Texas.
And InfoWars is going to be the news hub for the new free Texas, which is why you need to survive.
That's my take.
alex jones
Well, I mean, for those who don't know, we gave them every document, everything they ever asked for, more than anybody ever did.
They removed one judge, put a new one in, and she said, first hearing, first real hearing, I'm defaulting you, you never gave us one document, and then they lie all over the news.
It's stunning.
dan friesen
Oh, man, stunning.
Also, I have bad news for Mike about Alex's relationship with the Republic of Texas.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Not great.
Not great.
dan friesen
Seems to hate those people.
jordan holmes
Those folks are not friends.
dan friesen
No.
They all declare themselves president and everybody just dances around.
jordan holmes
You know what?
I say this is actually a great idea.
Let's do the biggest experiment of its kind, alright?
We give conservatives the Republic of Texas.
Alex is their main news source.
Everybody else just watches.
Let's see what happens.
We'll have definitive proof on what a good country would be.
dan friesen
This is a dangerous experiment that you're proposing.
jordan holmes
Oh, it's a dangerous experiment.
We'd nuke Mexico.
unidentified
But, you know, left...
dan friesen
You know, alone.
And just the world continuing as it is.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
What do you think is going to happen to the average leftist?
jordan holmes
Oh, we're going to...
I don't know.
We're either going to be murdered by the devil or the vaccine or we're going to kill all the Republicans now, too?
dan friesen
This is the average leftist.
jordan holmes
The average leftist.
Oh, we'll just be murdered.
alex jones
Imagine what the average leftist who's all about not being ready and being totally dependent.
What are all the leftist pedophiles and drug addicts going to do when everything collapses?
mike adams
Well, they're going to try to kill others to get the drugs and food that they want, but they have very little discipline and training, and most of them will be killed themselves.
jordan holmes
Who are you?
mike adams
Most of them are going to die.
jordan holmes
Well, as the only people who have gone on air and said, I will murder people in the apocalypse, immediately murder my neighbors in the apocalypse.
Obviously, the first thing the average leftist is going to do is the thing that I have said that I will do.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
And I'm judging them for it.
They're so immoral.
dan friesen
I know that I have some friends who would probably classify themselves as leftists, and I do...
I constantly find myself sitting around with them and they just fucking won't stop talking about how much they love not being prepared.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
It's just like a constant obsession for people on the left.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
I love that people feed me.
I don't go anywhere.
I'm not prepared for...
What if the door is locked?
Not prepared.
dan friesen
No clue.
I even know some people who, if they accidentally find themselves in a position where they are prepared, will unprepare themselves.
jordan holmes
I've got to.
Yeah, absolutely.
I'm wearing shoes for this race that I'm about to run.
Better light them on fire.
dan friesen
They're opposed to cooking, because that's a preparation of food.
jordan holmes
If you want to eat food, you eat the seeds.
And even then, you just eat dirt.
You just eat dirt.
dan friesen
Yep.
So I thought this was a...
Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb show.
And then we get to about a half hour into the second hour.
jordan holmes
Oh my God, it's all right.
dan friesen
And this is where Alex is at.
alex jones
What an incredible time to be alive, ladies and gentlemen.
I have a very important special report we're going to air at the start of the next segment.
And then he's got so much to cover tonight in Sunday Live, 6 to 8 p.m.
I've asked Harrison Smith who's going to be hosting those weekday mornings at 8 a.m.
American Journal here on the InfoWars Network.
He's going to come in and finish the last segment and a half to tell you what's coming up and hit some other news he's got, and then he'll be back tomorrow morning, 8 a.m.
I'll be back at 11 a.m., and Owen Schroyer will be back tomorrow.
dan friesen
Alex leaves half an hour early.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Just like, fuck it, I'm out of here.
jordan holmes
Yeah, screw this.
dan friesen
I came in and I talked to Mike Adams.
Screw it.
Let the little dork finish the show.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
Let boring white supremacy take over.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So before he gets out of the studio, though, he's got to try to pay them bills.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And so he does a My Patriot Supply plug.
And, like, I just thought this was hilarious.
This is not how you do it.
alex jones
Highest quality storable food for the lowest price you're going to find.
Can you pay three, four times more and get more gourmet that tastes better?
Yeah.
But for food that's good and nutritious and quality, a lot of it tastes excellent.
Most of it tastes, you know, really good.
Some taste okay.
But that's just dishes I don't like.
You're not going to find anything near it for this price.
jordan holmes
What?
unidentified
What?
Sure.
jordan holmes
Can you pay more and get better stuff?
That's how everything works.
Sure.
This stuff is pretty good.
It's not great.
It's not great.
unidentified
It's pretty okay.
jordan holmes
I don't like some of it.
It's cheap.
Honestly, it's pretty much garbage.
This is shit.
Listen, there's going to be armed guards at my grocery store.
Buy this fucking food, otherwise you're going to show a vaccine passport.
dan friesen
If he talked for another three minutes, that's where he would have gotten it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally.
He's so defensive.
dan friesen
It stinks, but it's calories.
jordan holmes
Listen, you're going to need it.
Put it in your body!
dan friesen
Wow.
If I were my Patriot Supply, I might call.
I might give him a call after that.
jordan holmes
What, are you going to survive off candy bars?
You're not.
Get them fucking food.
dan friesen
So, this InfoWars thing, right, that sells maybe bad food, it's like the rebel base in Star Wars.
alex jones
We need to be on air when they take everything down.
I mean, the enemy already knows what we got, but if that means radio and...
Satellite relays, if that means our own power supplies, if that means our own microwave relays, I mean, you name it, we got it.
Looks like the Rebel base here, folks.
And the Imperial Walkers are marching towards us.
That means they're coming at you, too.
So people ask, how are you taking all this?
Man, I mean, I know what's going down.
I'm ready for it.
But understanding this.
So, who knows?
It could be your last chance any day to get Ultra 12 or to get down and out sleep support or to get...
Endgame or the new film COVIDland.
We're going to get an InfoWars t-shirt.
I mean, until we turn this around and arrest the globalists, because they're not going to stop until we arrest them.
dan friesen
Might be your last chance.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Get a t-shirt.
Yeah.
Also, I don't know if Down and Out is the best name for your sleep.
That's...
Kind of a depressing name.
jordan holmes
He's really not feeling that great.
Give him some down and out and we'll deal with him later.
dan friesen
Hey, can we get a new sleep aid called Fucking Depressed?
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
unidentified
Can we get a sleep aid called Can't Get Out of Bed?
jordan holmes
Oh, we've got a new product.
It's just called Despair.
It doesn't help you sleep, but you can't get out of bed.
dan friesen
We have a mood stabilizer called Ennui.
jordan holmes
Guaranteed to remove your esprit de corps.
dan friesen
Look, it'll take out the highs.
It'll take out the lows.
unidentified
It'll take out the fins.
dan friesen
You'll just be constantly mildly annoyed.
jordan holmes
You will be empty on the inside, staring from between glass eyes.
dan friesen
I might have given another pass on that name.
I think that might have sucked.
So yeah, he just does these plugs until Harrison comes in.
But he has a couple of news stories that he didn't have time to cover.
jordan holmes
Oh, come on.
alex jones
I've got an article right here I didn't have time to get to.
I'll play it tomorrow.
Where the head congressional individual over the spending package says we can, quote, spend whatever amount of money we want.
We're invincible.
I mean, he actually said we can spend unlimited amounts is the quote.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
Unlimited amounts is the quote.
jordan holmes
That's how it works.
It's imaginary.
alex jones
It devalues everything.
But see, they get the money first while it has value.
They buy up real companies and infrastructure and farms and ranches and weapons and media.
And then we all get handed the debt and the inflation and the hell.
And then they say it's white men that are the problem.
But it's just globalists screwing us all.
It's totally wild.
You're seeing modern war.
The collapse has already begun.
It's accelerating.
You're in World War III.
You're being hit with bioweapons in the vaccines.
And then they blame those of us that are smart and don't take it as the ones that did it.
And I told you a year and a half ago that would happen.
And now it happened.
We know what we're talking about.
Please warn everyone.
There isn't much time left.
They've already injected half the public.
They're already dying.
dan friesen
That was a very fake bit of dramatics out to break.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that one was very clearly like, he was like, oh no, I've still got three seconds, I better try, I gotta stretch.
dan friesen
I gotta amp it up.
jordan holmes
I gotta stretch!
dan friesen
He is basically the sort of radio equivalent of somebody who has NOS boosters.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, like he can hit that switch.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's that final quarter second.
dan friesen
But, I mean, you know, he is too soon a lot of the time.
Too early.
jordan holmes
That'll happen.
dan friesen
So what are you talking about there about the budget thing?
That was about Representative John Yarmuth, who gave a speech back in June at a Rotary Club, and he touched on how we don't actually have to pay off the national debt.
Then I guess people are mad about this now, even though it was back in June.
He explained things pretty well, but Alex didn't have time to get into it today before he left work early, so I guess I'll wait until he covers it to get into the specifics about it.
What a dick.
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is funny, just watching this whole debt ceiling thing, just being like, this is all made up.
This is all imaginary.
What are you people doing?
Why am I reading about it?
Why are you doing this?
This is all pretend.
Please don't make me pretend to care about pretend.
This is insane!
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
dan friesen
Mm-hmm.
So, we get to the 4th.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
And this will always be remembered as the day that Facebook went down.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And we will deal with that in the middle of this episode.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
However, Alex is back from, like, Sunday.
I don't know what the fuck is going on on Sunday, because he just seemed to talk to Mike Adams for about an hour and a half and then leave.
jordan holmes
And then leave.
dan friesen
I don't know what's going on.
jordan holmes
I just didn't want to be there.
dan friesen
But there's an actual audience, maybe, for his Monday show.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
The weekday show.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Can't phone those in.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we get to talking about a little bit of the Sandy Hook business.
And look, when Alex is in trouble, so is America.
And that's important to remember.
jordan holmes
That doesn't sound true.
alex jones
I'm your host, Alex Jones.
And InfoWars has always been the canary in the coal mine.
For when you know InfoWars is in trouble, you know the country is on its knees and willfully sticking its head into the chopping block of the guillotine.
Thank you so much for joining us.
Well, we've been at the top of Twitter all weekend since last Thursday.
The end of Alex Jones.
Jury finds Jones guilty of defamation.
Must pay.
Nobody knows Adam Lanza's name, the man that they say killed those children at Sandy Hook, the young drug addict, devil worshiper.
People don't know his name.
They know my name, though, because the corporate media constantly attaches me to a shooting that happened.
Almost ten years ago, and that I did question, is my right as American?
Because so much stuff has been staged.
dan friesen
A couple of quick points.
One, people do remember Adam Lanza, who he was.
Second, I would say that Alex has more name recognition than Adam Lanza because he has a fucking talk show.
And is somebody who constantly is trolling for attention for people.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And then also, if you listen carefully to that clip, it kind of sounds like Alex might still think Lanza didn't do it.
jordan holmes
I am pretty sure he is, again, describing this in a way that suggests he is still denying Sandy Hook.
unidentified
He says that they say he did it.
jordan holmes
Are we still doing this?
How is this possible?
dan friesen
He can't help himself.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Why even bother with the default judgment?
He's just admitted all of this shit yet again.
dan friesen
Well, he's implied that his mind is still there.
But the issue, dude, is that he's been jammed up.
He's been jammed up!
jordan holmes
I mean, again, I've watched it...
And it's all him.
It's all him.
dan friesen
Democrat judge.
jordan holmes
No, it's him hoisting himself upon a petard of his own build.
dan friesen
Democrat judge.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
alex jones
But yeah, I've got stacks of news here from those controlled corporate press where they don't tell you that a judge says, a Democrat judge that just got elected in Texas, same one trying to block the pro-life bill that's law.
She doesn't have that power as a county judge to do it, but she's trying.
And she took the case over from the last judge that just retired, and at the second hearing, said you didn't give him anything.
And Mr. Jones, you said this is a kangaroo trial on your show, she said in the ruling, a month ago.
The exact quote was, you said this is a show trial.
Well, I said when she said a month ago, now five weeks ago at a hearing, the second hearing, And I think I'm going to default you because you haven't given any evidence because the other lawyers said we hadn't.
It didn't matter what the proof was or the record or the depositions or all of it.
jordan holmes
Yes, it did.
dan friesen
Yeah, and also the day before he was saying it was the first hearing and now it's the second hearing.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The story's a little janky.
jordan holmes
Eh, don't worry about it.
dan friesen
So yeah, I don't buy any of this.
This is pretty soft.
jordan holmes
So she said that I said this, but no, no, no.
What I actually said was this thing, and she said something different.
And I know you read what she said, and she said this, but what she actually said is what I say she said.
This is a very productive way to describe things.
dan friesen
Yeah, definitely.
And believable.
As somebody who watched the depositions and everything, it's very believable.
jordan holmes
It's great.
dan friesen
Alex has a lot of credibility on the subject.
He comported himself with total class.
jordan holmes
All I'm saying is that when that man defines reality, you know reality has been defined.
dan friesen
When that man defines corporate representative.
So yeah, I mean, really one of the only things to fall back on is like every attack on me is an attack on you.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
You have to personalize and experience this as an attack on yourself because I need you to give me money.
alex jones
But for every attack you see on Infowars, you understand that's an attack on you, the infrastructure.
I mean, this announcement...
We'll cover next segment that you don't have juries anymore and that suits against Rachel Maddow get thrown out when she says things way more defamatory than I've said.
That's all okay because she has free speech, but I don't.
dan friesen
What things does Rachel Maddow say that was more defamatory than things you've said?
jordan holmes
Yeah, go ahead.
Pull one of those out there.
Just go ahead and toss it out.
dan friesen
He doesn't give any specifics.
jordan holmes
That's surprising.
dan friesen
I don't love Rachel Maddow, but like...
I don't think that you said more defamatory things than Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm going to go way out on a limb.
Because I don't know if I can back this up.
But I'm going to say Alex is probably within the top ten all-time defamers of anything.
dan friesen
I mean, he probably is.
I mean, if you consider the reach of his program.
Right.
Like, the fact that he's been on air daily for 27 years or so.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, and then you've got him, you've got William Randolph Hearst, I assume.
dan friesen
But how much of that was William Randolph Hearst doing himself?
jordan holmes
Right, well, he wasn't writing it, but he was directing it.
He was very clear about directing public opinion through lies.
dan friesen
Sure, but then, like, you know, his news core, are you going to consider that?
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a good point.
dan friesen
You can't consider, like, entities or bosses.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
I'm talking about people who are saying the word.
jordan holmes
Speaking direct.
Man, I don't know.
It's got to be tough to beat.
dan friesen
Alex is up there, but apparently Rachel Maddow is worse.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Anyway, look, he lost in court, so that means it's time to buy product.
alex jones
That's all okay, because she has free speech, but I don't.
jordan holmes
I don't.
alex jones
You see, Tucker Carlson won't have free speech.
jordan holmes
Well, you laugh.
alex jones
Others won't have free speech under this model, and then the judges will simply say it doesn't matter how much.
Discover you give us on something that has nothing to do with what this case is.
We're just going to say you didn't and default you and say you're guilty and owe money.
That's a violation of the 7th Amendment on its face.
That guy's from the 7th Amendment police.
They're trying to get rid of jury trials for criminal stuff as well.
So that's why you need to understand when I tell you that we need your financial support, when I tell you that we're working with a lot of folks out there to make sure there's serious redundancy and a lot of other things, that takes money.
To fight this war.
And they realize they're losing that war, so they had to bypass the jury altogether.
But I need your financial support, so I'm going to tell you right now.
You never know, this will be your last chance today to get an Infowars t-shirt.
dan friesen
This is going to take a lot of money for me to pay my legal fees.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say.
dan friesen
Ridiculous.
This is so transparent.
jordan holmes
Just the staggering amount of, it's already over.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
We're all dead.
The empire has collapsed.
Right.
Soldiers in front of grocery stores.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
But!
Please buy a t-shirt.
dan friesen
If you buy a t-shirt.
jordan holmes
So InfoWars can protect the Seventh Amendment or something.
dan friesen
If you buy a t-shirt, we can stay on air and defeat the globalists that, look, we're all going to be dead.
jordan holmes
Right!
I'm gonna go to a water park.
dan friesen
Alex wants to be able to pay his legal fees.
jordan holmes
I'm gonna get on a water slide instead of buy your shirt because you've told me you've failed, that it's all over, and that everything that you've done up to this point is meaningless.
dan friesen
I haven't checked back in on Owen's crowdfunding thing, but he fleeced people for like a quarter million dollars on that bullshit.
jordan holmes
What an idiot.
dan friesen
And Alex is probably just trying to do the same thing.
He wants the audience to pay for his bad behaviors that he's now facing the consequences for.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Which, I mean, it's an alright business model if you're a shithead.
jordan holmes
I am asking you, the people.
To once again protect me from feeling any negative effects for all the behavior I've done.
dan friesen
Because if things look bad for me, it's over for humanity.
jordan holmes
Probably, even though it already is.
dan friesen
So anyway, the Seventh Amendment says, quote, In suits at common law where the value in controversy shall exceed $20, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved.
And no fact tried by a jury shall be otherwise re-examined in any court of the United States than according to the rules of the common law.
This would be relevant, except this only applies to federal courts, and very specifically not to civil cases being heard in state courts.
The Supreme Court has thrice affirmed that state courts have no obligation to provide jury trials for civil cases, but many do anyway, just sort of as a formality.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because why not?
dan friesen
Alex's rights have not been violated at all.
He does not know what the Seventh Amendment is.
jordan holmes
I do love, I do love sometimes you really, you know, like, you know the stuff is in there, but then you go back and you actually hear it, and you read it.
You read it again and again, and you're like, wait a second.
We're still listening to a constitution that has a Seventh Amendment that includes a dollar amount in it.
Like a $1776 amount of $20 being like...
Holy shit, this is worth a million dollars in today's money.
dan friesen
I don't know for certain, but I would bet that that has been updated.
jordan holmes
I'm sure, I'm sure.
But it is like, what are we doing?
Rewrite the fucking thing.
We live in the future.
$20, get the fuck out of here.
dan friesen
Come on, man.
jordan holmes
$20, oh man.
dan friesen
This is for 1950.
jordan holmes
What are we talking about?
dan friesen
So, look.
The point is that Alex has been smeared.
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
So let me show you some of these news articles here we've got.
And again, this is a lot bigger than Alex Jones.
And I want to show TV viewers and radio listeners can pull this up.
An article out of the Associated Press was posed to the most respected publication in the world from almost three years ago in 2019.
In June.
Two and a half years ago.
Father of Sandy Hook victim wins defamation lawsuit against Alex Jones.
Alex Jones is the host of the conspiracy-driven Infowars website and wrote a book titled Nobody Died at Sandy Hook.
jordan holmes
That's defamatory.
alex jones
I didn't write a book called Nobody Died at Sandy Hook.
I'm not in the book.
When we called the Wall Street Journal that also published this NAP, they said, go ahead and sue us.
We're not going to retract it.
And then about a month later, they took away my perfect corporate credit rating because of this, saying I lost a suit and used that to charge us more.
For credit card transactions and a bunch of other stuff.
That's just an example of true defamation.
dan friesen
That's probably not true.
But we've covered this before, and in case anyone's forgotten, Alex has a good argument here, just not against the Associated Press.
The headline that Alex is reading is from Market Watch, and someone who works there definitely fucked up and attributed the writing of that book to Alex.
The Market Watch page is just an article that's reposted from the Associated Press, but with a new headline that Market Watch wrote, which does not appear in the original AP story.
Right.
On the AP website, the headline is, quote, Newtown parents score a win in growing fight against hoaxers.
And it's never claimed that Alex wrote Fetzer's book.
As for the Wall Street Journal, I can't find that article posted on their site, but this is an important dynamic to understand.
Alex can threaten to sue the AP all he wants.
They didn't do anything.
His beef is with Market Watch, and I've never heard him complain about them.
And I think that this is intentional.
I'm sure that Alex knows that if he just contacted MarketWatch and complained about this very demonstrably not true claim, they would immediately retract it and probably even issue an apology, which doesn't work for Alex.
jordan holmes
No, that's no good.
dan friesen
That's not good for him.
He gets much more out of it by constantly pointing to the headline and blaming the wrong entity for it and saying that they won't own up to something they didn't do.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
And it's just a stupid game that he's playing.
But he's been smeared!
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
So smeared.
dan friesen
So anyway, what you do is you point to this, this headline, and you use it to imply that all the headlines about you now are not true.
jordan holmes
Hey, if one happened, then the several other thousand are probably...
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that makes sense.
alex jones
So when you see that, remember when you then hear, I just lost a lawsuit to look a little bit deeper.
Let's go through these right now for TV viewers and radio listeners, but TV viewers can see these.
Sandy Hook.
Alex Jones loses case over hoax remarks.
Loses case.
BBC.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
Father Jones.
Alex Jones loses two more Sandy Hook cases.
Oh yeah, like each lawyer files like four or five moments of bankruptcy.
Father Jones.
Alex Jones loses losses over Sandy Hook hoax conspiracy.
ABC News.
Same folks told us there were WMDs in Iraq.
dan friesen
Okay.
The reason there are multiple cases isn't because lawyers are filing multiple.
It's because there's multiple plaintiffs who have different...
Complaints about things that you said about their kids.
jordan holmes
No, whenever you sue somebody, you get a law firm, and all of those lawyers each bring their own individual suits.
That makes perfect sense.
That's how law works.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, Alex just has to find a way to make this fight between him and lawyers as opposed to humanizing the people behind it who are the real victims.
And Alex can't accept that because he's the real victim, according to him.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's really sad.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I'm waiting for...
He might as well have a you-can't-handle-the-truth moment where he's like, look, I'm obviously the real victim because nobody died there.
And then everybody's like, see, we fucking told you!
dan friesen
This is what it was!
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway, he just reads every headline about himself.
jordan holmes
He's got time to fill.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
Raw story.
Now, let's start being more honest here.
Alex Jones fumes after judge rules he must pay for his Sandy Hook conspiracy theories, but not after a jury trial in violation of the Seventh Amendment.
She lies, which is a clear lie, and says we've given him nothing.
And then she goes, and he says this is a show trial.
Well, I did say that a month ago when she announced I'm probably going to default you.
You've given us nothing.
81,000 pages?
Two depositions with myself and my whole crew?
Because we don't have what you claim we have?
The battle plan to say Sandy Hook was a hoax because it'd make us so famous when it was something I barely covered nine years ago?
Imagine they say, give me the smoking gun.
I don't have the smoking gun, but okay, you don't get a jury trial then because we have no case.
dan friesen
Okay.
Good spin, I guess.
jordan holmes
Give me the smoking gun.
dan friesen
I don't have it.
jordan holmes
Well.
Nothing we can do then.
I guess we'll have to ramroll you.
dan friesen
I guess we have to get a default judgment against you.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
You didn't give us the smoking gun.
dan friesen
This also really, really heavily implies an accusation of collaboration between the plaintiffs and the judge.
In order for Alex's argument to make any sense, it has to be a united conspiracy against him.
I think it's become a nice, fun joke amongst people that they get their Soros checks.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
You know, these protesters.
jordan holmes
Everybody loves it.
dan friesen
Getting our Soros checks.
I regret to inform you that Soros is actually involved with this plot against Alex.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
And this judge is known.
She just got elected a year ago as a former CPS lawyer.
She is known as an absolute...
I mean, the things that the Democrat lawyers and everybody say about her, I'm not going to repeat here, but I mean, it's all Soros.
I mean, Soros put the DA in here.
He funded her through these PACs.
I mean, it's Soros, folks.
Soros is doing this to me.
He's going to do it to you, too.
dan friesen
That is just like...
I mean, it's parody.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Soros is doing this to me, and he's going to do it to you.
jordan holmes
I mean, this guy is really...
You kind of have to think he's playing with house money right now because he's about to be like, and I think we should put a million dollars out for anybody who takes care of this judge for me.
Like, he's so close.
dan friesen
Well, I think he learned his lesson about that.
When you do stuff like that, you end up paying $100,000 in sanctions.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
So Judge Gamble actually ran unopposed for this seat in the 459th District Court back in 2018.
Soros probably had to dump a ton of money in there to make sure she beat the lack of opponent she was up against.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, the lack of opponent had so much more name recognition right out of the gate.
You know, everybody knows no one.
dan friesen
It's true.
So all Alex really has to go on is just pointing to this Market Watch headline over and over again and using it to sort of imply that any stories about him now are not true.
alex jones
So they had an article saying Alex Jones loses suit for writing a book Nobody Died at Sandy Hook.
And we call AP up and have a law firm send them a letter.
I mean, a big lawyer.
Norm Pattinson, a big famous lawyer.
They just said, go ahead and sue.
Okay, so I didn't write that book.
I didn't lose that suit.
But it created the thing that I'm guilty.
That's why I was up at The Blaze doing shows.
And I had two different hosts ask me, hey, so you lost those Sandy Hook suits.
This is last week before this happened.
And I said, no, they just said that to create that illusion.
Fake news.
But I said, I will.
They're going to default me very soon.
And they did that.
I was walking out of the building when I just told somebody that, and I get the phone call that it happened Thursday.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
How did you know?
Could it be because you were told repeatedly?
dan friesen
You were given constant warnings that your behavior was going to precipitate this kind of thing?
jordan holmes
You don't need psychic dreams to figure this one out.
dan friesen
No.
And also, that MarketWatch headline had nothing to do with creating the illusion of Alex's guilt.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
His actions did that.
Yeah.
So this case, I mean, it's a setback, obviously.
Alex needs money.
But he doesn't want you to think that this is the biggest issue.
Mic down for this.
This clip is fucked up.
alex jones
But see, behind the scenes, they've done far worse things than for strategic reasons I'm not going to say.
To my family.
To my loved ones.
To people I know.
I mean, folks.
unidentified
Folks.
Look.
alex jones
Let's just say some people in my family ended up dead just to give me a message and I didn't back down.
Okay?
So, this stuff is nothing.
dan friesen
So, apparently, the globalists have killed some of Alex's family members.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
Sure.
dan friesen
I'd like some specifics on this.
jordan holmes
I would like names, dates, as well as method of death and so on and so forth.
dan friesen
And why you're not dead because you didn't back down.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Typically, if some kind of giant mafia cartel syndicate or whatever kills somebody as a warning to somebody else, when they don't back down at that point, they get killed.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because the warning...
jordan holmes
The warning is before you kill somebody.
dan friesen
The warning is a murder.
jordan holmes
Yes.
And then the follow-through is more murder.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But you're pot committed once you've already committed the murder.
jordan holmes
Right.
Exactly.
dan friesen
You're in.
jordan holmes
You're not going to back down.
No.
Why would you?
dan friesen
That's why you do it.
jordan holmes
You've already committed a murder.
dan friesen
That's why you send the message.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Boy.
unidentified
Oof.
jordan holmes
They are bad at what they do.
dan friesen
Yeah, so anyway, I don't believe any of this.
No, absolutely not.
Folks.
Folks.
unidentified
It made me think of Tommy Mac.
dan friesen
Comedian Tommy Mac.
jordan holmes
Yes, that is.
unidentified
Folks.
jordan holmes
That is.
unidentified
That's fantastic.
dan friesen
I'm just waiting for Alex to say, like, you think I give a fuck?
Anyway, I hope the Seventh Amendment has been violated.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure.
alex jones
And that's where we are.
Look at the Seventh Amendment, just in case you're tuning in.
And, oh, well, it's okay to have a judge say you're guilty.
No, not unless you allow a judge to try.
You can give away your Seventh Amendment right, but you cannot do it unwillingly.
This is from the Seventh Amendment.
Might have heard of it.
In suits of common law, the value in controversy shall exceed $20.
The right of trial by jury shall be preserved.
And no fact tried by a jury shall be otherwise re-examined in any court of the United States.
Well, hell, the judge up front examined it and said, I decide you're guilty, no jury.
So that's a total violation.
Then according to the rules of common law, which goes back to Magna Carta 1215, total violation of that, and it violates the Sixth Amendment as well.
Now, that's your rights being stolen.
That's your birthright being stolen.
dan friesen
Alex's Seventh Amendment rights don't apply to state courts, so this argument sucks.
But his claim that his Sixth Amendment rights have been violated are even sillier.
So the first four words in the Sixth Amendment are, quote, in all criminal prosecutions.
jordan holmes
What about it?
dan friesen
This just doesn't apply to his civil suit at all.
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
Now, I get it.
Those two amendments, they don't apply.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Tell me where the Magna Carta does not protect him.
Because under the Magna Carta, which as I remember it...
dan friesen
1215.
jordan holmes
...maintains its status as forever law.
dan friesen
Right.
I'm not sure that Alex really has a really good grasp on this Constitution and Bill of Rights that he loves so much.
jordan holmes
Not a big fan.
dan friesen
He's taken two bites at this apple, and both are rotten.
jordan holmes
No.
As I've stated 10 million times, the people who have a pocket Constitution understand it not at all.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You add it as a prop.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, 100%.
dan friesen
Anyway, the U.S. is being taken over.
jordan holmes
By whom?
dan friesen
Globalists.
jordan holmes
Again?
Haven't they already taken this over?
alex jones
America is in the process of being looted and absorbed and bankrupted right now.
They're going to use a race war to try to cover that all up, what they've done.
And I would just tell you, get ready and dig in.
Because this country's going under judgment.
All right, we'll be right back with the design collapse and where that's going to go next.
dan friesen
I said it earlier, and I just kept having this feeling that the globalists have too many fucking plans.
Why do they need all of these plans?
Like, no evil organization would do this to themselves because so much of it just doesn't matter.
Like, what does the U.S. economy collapsing matter if 90% of the population is killed off by a vaccine bioweapon?
That will happen on its own.
unidentified
None of this makes sense because Alex is just making it up as he goes along.
dan friesen
You don't need a race war to cover up the collapsing economy or whatever.
jordan holmes
Furthermore, let's just get this real straight.
They do not need to cover up anything because we just saw the Pandora Papers come and go so fast.
We know!
Like, we saw it all!
We've got it all written down, and we still don't care.
dan friesen
I think people were more interested in how much Twitch streamers made than...
jordan holmes
You are 100% correct.
dan friesen
But yeah, so what Alex is doing is basically just bigoted, narcissistic, paranoid jazz.
Like, he has the skeleton of these ideas in place, and he just kind of riffs out about whatever he's feeling on these established themes.
That's why you'll get, like, the globalists having a hundred different plans that seem at odds with each other or completely contradictory or...
Seem to be working towards different goals.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's because Alex is just making it up based on his feelings.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm really amazed that you can even try to cover up what they're doing.
No.
No one's covering it up.
It's all very obvious.
You look at the...
Okay.
This senator received $100,000 from this company and now they vote differently.
Yeah, no shit.
They're not covering it up at all.
It's obvious.
You pay for law.
That's fine.
We all get it.
dan friesen
It's not fine.
jordan holmes
It's super bad.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But it's how we live.
dan friesen
So, the supply chains have broken down, my friend.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
And basically what this amounts to is that Alex needs money.
alex jones
The country and the world is in cardiac arrest.
They said they would do it the damn Great Reset, and I told you.
And then we're sitting here running out of our supply chains, running out of product to even fund ourselves.
That's why we need everybody to go to InfowarStore.com.
You've never needed your support now that we need it here to not just stay where we are, but expand.
But we either expand or we implode at this point.
jordan holmes
Expand.
alex jones
I need to expand, and I'm not going to get into strategic regions for hearing you on air.
That gives the enemy too much information.
But listen, I need financial support right now.
So go to InfoWarsStore.com, click on the support button at the top, go to the donation area, give a one-time donation, give a long-term donation, you can do recurring donations, give a hundred bucks.
I need the funds to fight the globalists.
I need the Oh man, what a coincidence that he lost a bunch of cases and now he's...
dan friesen
Mysteriously at a point where he desperately needs the funds to fight the globalists.
jordan holmes
No, no.
He needs to expand.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
There can't possibly be a one-to-one parallel here.
jordan holmes
Now that I am on the hook for an almost about-to-be-astronomical amount of money.
dan friesen
An unknown amount that could be a disaster.
jordan holmes
It is time for me to expand my operation.
dan friesen
And I need your money to do it.
jordan holmes
And I'm going to need your money.
dan friesen
And I also am not going to tell you the things that I'm going to do.
jordan holmes
Right.
Because that would give them two...
dan friesen
Right.
It's going to be paying off my legal fees.
jordan holmes
I will be doing that.
And also, did you read the Pandora Papers?
It is very easy to offshore your money and they won't get it.
dan friesen
Wouldn't the globalists hate it if I could pay my legal fees?
Help me.
jordan holmes
And it'll come as a shock to them.
I'm not even going to tell them what my plans for this money of yours is.
And when I pay off my lawyers, they will be blown away.
The globalists will be like, oh no!
dan friesen
So Alex, you know, the Great Reset is something he's very afraid of.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And he lies about it a little bit here.
unidentified
Well, obviously.
alex jones
And I'm looking for the book.
Ah, here it is.
COVID-19 and the Great Reset.
I don't like Klaus Schwab.
I'm not advertising his book, but this was out a month after the COVID crisis began.
It was already pre-written, and it was already pre-planned.
I'm going to talk about it here right now.
dan friesen
So Klaus Schwab's book, The Great Reset, was released in July 2020, which is a little bit more than a month after the COVID crisis started.
Mm-hmm.
You know, using things that seem like trivial facts, getting you to accept them will bring you closer to accepting his completely nonsensical conclusion.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
It's a manipulation strategy.
jordan holmes
And also, it's just kind of, it's very fun because he can just be like, see, there's no way anyone could write a book in a month.
That's not possible.
I've never heard of Isaac Asimov.
Fuck all of you.
I have no idea, you know?
dan friesen
Right, right.
You could write a book in a month, first of all.
But second of all...
It's not even about that.
It's about making the ultimate conclusion slightly more believable.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
Trapping you in acceptable distortions.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So anyway, there's a Polish journalist who is not allowed to go into the United Kingdom, and Alex is mad about this.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
The social credit score is here.
Polish journalist denied entry to the UK over his opinions.
Big article and video on Infowars.com.
Criticizing the EU, criticizing globalism, criticizing the lockdown.
Sorry, you can't come here.
dan friesen
So this is about a man named Rafal Zimkiewicz.
If you're wondering, he wasn't barred from entering the UK because of his views on globalism or the lockdowns.
As it turns out, he's one of the very fortunate folks to be on the home office's list of people who are such shitheads that they can't enter the country.
This illustrious list includes Americans like Fred Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church and Alex's buddy Michael Savage.
Typically these are people who are bigots and they have a history of agitating and I guess the UK government is smart enough to just say we don't want that kind of bullshit over here.
You cannot come.
jordan holmes
There is something nice about being a sovereign nation that can just say...
You're a dick.
You can't come.
dan friesen
Your values are antithetical to what we believe in, and you have a proven track record of agitating people and causing a public nuisance.
jordan holmes
Right, but it's the UK.
I mean, they don't.
You know, they've got Nigel Farage.
They've got all of those people.
They've got enough, but it's like, you're a dick, and we don't want you.
dan friesen
Yeah, we can't kick Nigel Farage out.
jordan holmes
We can't kick Nigel Farage out.
dan friesen
We cannot let you in.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Barts.
Plural.
dan friesen
As for this guy, Rafal, he's a bigot mostly of the anti-Semitic, Islamophobic, and homophobic variety.
The reality is that he's someone who has called the Holocaust a myth.
And Alex is trying to whitewash away these details and only present him as a Polish journalist because, I mean, that's what he does.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Yep.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, you know, if you have people telling you that you shouldn't say the N-word...
It's a slippery slope.
jordan holmes
I am going to go way past you.
You shouldn't even need to.
dan friesen
Right.
I agree with you, but I think Alex thinks it's a slippery slope.
alex jones
That's the real threat, is the globalist, is the social credit score.
And so many folks are saying, oh, we better do what we're told.
You know how that works?
Do what I say.
I'll ban you if you use the N-word.
I don't ever use the N-word, so, okay, ban them.
Oh, now don't say mother or father.
Now, oh.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, did that happen fast?
alex jones
On government forums all over and schools, you name it.
Oh, okay.
You know, don't use the word manhole.
That's another bad word.
See, there's always something.
They're always going to move the gold post.
While the left runs around, the article's on Infowars.com, and says that white people are inherently bad and are parasites and are evil mutants.
That need to be put away.
I've got an article from Infowars.com with exactly that headline.
That's where we are.
dan friesen
So, first of all, none of the words Alex is saying are banned are actually banned at all.
You can say the N-word if you want.
There just might be consequences for doing so.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's how it works.
dan friesen
You can say mother and father all you want.
They were just conversations about making terms used on official documents gender neutral so as not to stigmatize same-sex parents.
jordan holmes
There you go.
dan friesen
Alex is rambling about nothing, and it kind of just feels like he wants to say the N-word.
That's just what it feels like.
jordan holmes
Tends to be that way.
dan friesen
As for that thing about white people being mutants, this is one of Alex's big headlines for the day.
The left didn't say that.
It was just one person named Francis Cress Welsing.
Welsing was an Afrocentric activist, and I think it might be fair to describe her beliefs as being black supremacist.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
I'm not sure what site people are referring to, but you can find a number of message board posts by people who are very mad that a, quote, Black History Month website quoted her.
I have no idea what's going on, and I can't find a link to the site in question, and even if you assume it's all true, Alex's presentation of it is still bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's nonsense.
And I didn't even cut this clip out, but at one point in the episode, Alex is like, yeah, you know what?
We are all mutants.
jordan holmes
Oh, great.
Okay.
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
Then you retract your complaint?
I guess you're fine.
dan friesen
So, look, it's too late for the NWO.
The new, new, new, new, new world order.
Okay.
Kevin Nash.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Scott Hall.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Hulk Hogan.
Hollywood Hulk Hogan.
jordan holmes
Somebody else who likes to say the N-word.
dan friesen
True.
Yes.
jordan holmes
And destroy journalism.
dan friesen
It's too late for them.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Because Alex is too credible.
alex jones
You're being conquered.
I'm being conquered by a multinational globalist force.
I've been on air 28 years fighting it.
And now it's all out in the open.
So you see, I can't be on air.
I've got to be destroyed.
I've got to be shut down because our credibility is so high.
They don't want us on air now that everybody believes what we're saying and checks into what we're saying and follows up on it.
But I got something for the New World Order to know.
Your whole takeover's not going well.
Your whole forced vaccine program's stalling.
And it's too late.
Everybody knows I'm right now.
Too late, New World Order.
Too late.
unidentified
We know that the 1% globalist elites have hijacked and subverted the U.S. economy, culture, and government.
The battle to take America back begins with Scott McKay, the Patriot Street Fighter, and his advancing the fork-in-line tour.
Now here's Scott.
Hi, this is Scott McKay, better known as Patriot Street Fighter, the high-octane, full-throttle truth hammer.
dan friesen
I don't really care to respond to Alex's claims that he's too credible to be allowed on air.
Just let that sit there.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That commercial sounded weird, though.
jordan holmes
That was...
It's too late, Globalists!
It's too late!
Hi, everybody!
unidentified
We're gonna have a good time with the Patriot Fighter!
dan friesen
So, Patriot Street Fighter, the Truth Hammer, what is this local market-ass commercial doing on Alex's big-time important show?
You think Putin cares about the Street Fighter Patriot guy?
Nonsense.
So, I decided to learn a little bit more about who this guy is, and I found his Twitter.
This is a guy named Scott McKay, and this is his bio.
Quote, former competitive bodybuilder, wellness industry entrepreneur, former political consultant, campaign manager, radio talk show host, Q Patriot Street Fighter.
Huh.
jordan holmes
Q Patriot Street Fighter.
dan friesen
Conveniently dropped that part off for the commercial.
jordan holmes
Seems like it.
dan friesen
Q Patriot Street Fighter, you say.
It seems like Alex will just advertise for anything and anyone.
He doesn't give a fuck, man.
He's called Q a globalist deep state setup, and here he is taking ad money to promote the Q Patriot Street Fighter speaking tour.
jordan holmes
Hey, the enemy of my enemy is my friend when it comes to me needing money to fight these fucking lawsuits.
dan friesen
I guess so.
I scrolled down a little bit on his Twitter page, and I saw a picture of him, and I immediately realized he's a dude that I've seen as a guest on Project Camelot, and we might have actually talked about him on the podcast.
jordan holmes
Get the shit out of here.
dan friesen
I think we talked about the Patriot Street Fighter.
jordan holmes
We've talked about...
About the truth hammer?
dan friesen
Yeah, I think so.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, also, Mike Adams was a guest on his show back in August, so I guess this dude is another direct connection between Infowars and Project Camelot worlds.
jordan holmes
Unreal.
dan friesen
Fun!
jordan holmes
Just everywhere.
dan friesen
Here's a couple of bad signs about his tour.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
The first is that tonight, when this episode comes out, he's speaking at the Farm Boy Garage, which is a car restoration shop.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
This is being billed as a pre-show for the Trump rally, which I'm sure will be spectacular.
jordan holmes
You gotta start small.
dan friesen
So probably more troubling is that he has dates listed on his website from October 16th to December 15th with specific cities on specific dates, but the venue for all of them is TBD.
The page says, quote, site has not been determined.
If you know of potential locations, please go to the contact us page and submit your recommendations.
This is not how you plan a tour.
This is not going to go well.
jordan holmes
Just want to let everybody know we'll be doing the Knowledge Fight Theater Tour across the United States.
We're going to be doing 120 dates next year.
If you know any theaters and can fill them.
dan friesen
Or a Jiffy Lube.
You have a Jiffy Lube?
jordan holmes
You got a Jiffy Lube.
That'll follow up.
unidentified
Whoa.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
I think this is maybe putting the cart before the horse a little bit.
But it's good that he, instead of finding venues, In advance to promote.
You promote first.
Buying an ad on Alex's show.
jordan holmes
You promote first, and then you get the infrastructure.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's how it's always worked.
That's how it always will work.
I've been in the entertainment business for a long time.
dan friesen
And I love that Alex is willing to promote it.
Yeah.
Like a tour that may legit not happen.
Like some of these dates might not happen.
Or they might happen in a park.
jordan holmes
I promoted my first appearance, and I remember this.
I remember promoting the first time I was going to be on CYSK.
And it was about eight months into when I started doing stand-up.
And then about six years later, I did it.
I promoted the shit out of it, and then six years later it happened.
That's the way it works.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's like magic.
I know that sometimes...
You know, this happens in independent touring.
You know, like, maybe you have nine out of ten dates.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
You have a venue, and you're like, well, we'll be between these two cities.
If we can fit in another date there, we'd like to hit this other city.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That happens sometimes.
But this is two months of no venues.
jordan holmes
Hey, if you've got ten dates...
And then all of a sudden one of your venues drops out, they double booked, they couldn't do something, anything along those, something else came up.
dan friesen
That's not this.
jordan holmes
TBD.
This is, I'm going to your city and I'm going to start talking somewhere.
dan friesen
Somewhere.
jordan holmes
Somewhere.
Bakery?
Don't care.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's fine.
Starbucks?
They won't let me in anymore.
I'm banned.
dan friesen
The globalists.
jordan holmes
Truth hammer.
dan friesen
So, Dan gets distracted by a weird commercial on Alex's show portion.
jordan holmes
I like it.
dan friesen
So now we get back, and it turns out Facebook is down.
alex jones
Oh, no.
Okay, obviously this started happening about an hour ago.
Facebook is down along with Instagram, WhatsApp, Messenger, and Oculus VR.
And usually that's when they're doing some backdoor criminal update.
That's all an arm of the NSA, the globalist-controlled NSA.
They're claiming it's outages.
They're all just preparing and testing their internet kill switches where only they'll be online.
Everybody else will be offline, is what I believe is going on there.
dan friesen
I figured that out real quick.
jordan holmes
Yep.
unidentified
That was fast.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Almost like you just made it up.
jordan holmes
Made it up on the spot.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Maybe you just heard and then made it up.
dan friesen
Oh, Facebook's down?
Great.
I know what to say about that.
jordan holmes
Yep.
This one I've been waiting for.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex completely whiffs on this one in a spectacular fashion.
So what's going on is Biden had made some comments about protesters following Sinema.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And Alex is trying to sort of defend Sinema and also attack Biden in this.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
And this is just...
jordan holmes
Incoherent?
dan friesen
A little bit, but it's more embarrassing.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
So here's Biden defending it.
And look, you could say, hey, this is just people pissed off, and that's something that's up to the line, but it's civil disobedience, and it's people being a little bit noisy, and it should be protected.
But the Democrats, though, when conservatives do it, they want us to arrest it.
And they defend Antifa when they shoot people in the back.
So they want to be aggressive and say burning down buildings is mostly peaceful, but then they want to arrest hundreds of people that even go into the U.S. Capitol, like Owen Schroer.
And now others.
So here's Joe Biden.
peter doocy
Mr. President, you're talking about how you have 48 Democratic votes right now.
unidentified
The other two have been pressured over the weekend by activists.
Joe Manchin had people on kayaks show up to his boat.
Senator Sinema last night was chased into a press room.
Do you think that those tactics are crossing a line?
joe biden
I don't think they're appropriate tactics, but it happens to everybody.
The only people it doesn't happen to do are people who have Secret Service standing around them.
unidentified
So it's part of the process.
alex jones
Is it part of the process to have one of your supporters go shoot a bunch of people or try to kill a bunch of people and shoot Congressman Scalise at the baseball field?
The CNN defended that.
dan friesen
That's just embarrassing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's sad.
dan friesen
One thing is, we covered this a hundred times, CNN did not say that the Scalise shooting was a good thing or defended it.
This is something that Alex has completely fabricated and is just total bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Also, it's really fun how that dude who did the shooting was a Bernie Sanders supporter literally every time it's come up, but now I guess he was into Biden.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's almost like Alex is just making shit up as he goes along.
jordan holmes
It doesn't matter.
dan friesen
So what happened here is that Alex thought he had a point that he was going to be able to score on Biden.
jordan holmes
He's going to crush it.
dan friesen
The idea was that Biden was endorsing the protesters following Sinema into a bathroom, which I guess proves Alex's theory that there's different treatment for left and right-leaning protesters, like the right-leaning ones who go into the Capitol and get arrested.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
So the clip...
Alex plays, you know, it doesn't say what Alex said he was saying.
jordan holmes
It's real unfortunate that it doesn't say that.
dan friesen
Biden explicitly says that he didn't think that those are appropriate tactics.
Alex set up this clip completely wrong, and it's painfully obvious as it's playing, so in the moment, he has to find a way to shift attention as soon as the clip is over.
So magically, the guy who shot Scalise is now a Biden supporter.
This is a rhetorical version of Alex waving a red flag at a bull.
And I suppose in this metaphor, the bull is the consequences of his lack of preparation.
Maybe.
I'm not sure.
I've lost track of the metaphor.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that one might have skipped your...
dan friesen
The point is it's a distraction tactic that Alex is engaging in that has no relation to reality.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, and also, what a weird thing.
Leave that one alone.
That's such a weird one to even try and bring up for him.
dan friesen
I think that...
jordan holmes
Because shouldn't he be fine with it?
dan friesen
I think that enough people were talking about it and he figured it was a way he could score a point on Biden.
He probably hadn't watched the clip.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he just had a sense of it, maybe.
jordan holmes
Probably should have watched it.
dan friesen
He'd heard a few things and he's like, ah, here's how I'm going to dunk on this in order to weave it into all of my narratives about right-wing aggrievement.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, we're oppressed.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, these liberal protesters can get away with anything.
They chase people into bathrooms.
alex jones
Man.
dan friesen
Yeah, and it just doesn't work.
It's not...
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It doesn't play.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, I would have been just like...
I would have assumed he would have gone like, yeah, that's all they're doing and they're all complaining about it.
That's...
That's the angle that I would take.
dan friesen
I also think if you're listening to that clip of Biden, you see a bit of self-effacingness, too.
He's like, the only time they don't do that is if you have Secret Service around you.
He's talking about himself.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's his point.
dan friesen
He's like, I am not subjected to this kind of thing.
But the implication is, when I was a senator, I was.
jordan holmes
I was in government for 50 fucking years.
dan friesen
And not that this is okay.
It's not a good tactic.
But it is something that people deal with.
jordan holmes
It would have been more fun if he was like, no, of course I don't support that.
What should happen is every time she wears clean clothes, somebody throws a bucket of fake blood on her, and then the moment she changes her clothes, boom!
Another one!
dan friesen
I think it might be unpresidential.
jordan holmes
Another one!
dan friesen
So the globalists, they're spreading new viruses around.
And this is big news for Alex, but there might be something bigger.
alex jones
This is the real globalist attack that they intend to hide, claiming a new virus has been released, which they're already claiming new variants are about to come out that are going to kill you.
Well, yeah, because you're releasing them.
But first, let me point this out.
We're having one of the biggest flash sales of our history today.
And I can tell you, we need funds big time right now.
unidentified
I bet.
alex jones
Not just to keep this operation on air, but to stay on air and continue on into the future.
And we need funding now to do this, okay?
dan friesen
Almost like you had some expenses pop up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, some things that you didn't maybe budget for for this quarter.
dan friesen
What a dumbass.
jordan holmes
We need money!
Completely unrelated to those lawsuits that I lost, which are totally unconstitutional.
I'm sure I'll be able to challenge them in the higher courts.
dan friesen
Seventh Amendment, baby.
jordan holmes
No big deal.
Seventh Amendment.
Anyways, I need a lot of money very quick.
dan friesen
So much.
jordan holmes
We're having a flash sale.
I am getting rid of everything because when they lay that judgment down, they're going to liquidate it anyway.
dan friesen
Listen, I've worn out anybody giving a shit about me saying that there's a money bomb.
I can't do that again.
Nope.
A big flash sale.
jordan holmes
Flash sale.
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So Alex has a guest on.
This is a guy named Thomas Renz, who's a lawyer, apparently.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And, yeah, this guy's a weirdo.
He has some information about COVID that's not good.
unidentified
And that information showed, and it's incontrovertible, it's straight from the CMS servers, that there are thousands and thousands dying with this vaccine.
48,000 dead within 14 days of getting the vaccination, which is an important number.
Because if you're within 14 days, they don't count you as a vaccine death.
jordan holmes
So you're perfectly healthy.
unidentified
You go get the shot.
Three days later, you're dead.
You're not a vaccine death.
So 48,000 dead within 14 days.
dan friesen
I'm not sure this guy knows what within means.
Because within 14 days includes three days after.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
That's up.
In the set of whole numbers between 1 and 14, within...
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
The three is there, yes.
dan friesen
So this is Thomas Renz, who first made these claims in a speech.
He gave it a Colorado Springs stop on the Reawaken America tour.
jordan holmes
TBD venue.
dan friesen
No, this one had a venue.
jordan holmes
Well, I was talking about his next stop.
dan friesen
It was just a who's that of idiots on the panel, with the headliner being General Flynn.
He also had Stella Emanuel, who we've talked about on the show.
Patrick Byrne, who's also come up on the show.
Alex's favorite grocer, Alfie Oaks, gave a speech.
And what's this?
Oh, the Q Patriot Street.
Hey!
unidentified
There we are!
dan friesen
He was on the bill!
jordan holmes
Of course he was.
dan friesen
Anyway, Renz hasn't produced the data he's claiming this comes from, and it's all very suspicious.
The most likely explanation for what's going on is that he's just trying to repackage the old conspiracies about vaccine deaths that people took from VAERS data.
Going back to July, Renz was serving as the lawyer for America's Frontline Doctors, the wacko group of doctors who love hydroxychloroquine.
He filed a lawsuit on their behalf against the Secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services, and in that filing he included a section about some alleged whistleblower testimony.
He had an expert, Jane Doe, who was a computer programmer who had access to Medicare and Medicaid data.
From the lawsuit, quote, in her expert opinion, VAERS underreported deaths caused by the vaccines by a conservative factor of at least five.
As of July 9th, 2021, VAERS reported 9048 deaths associated with the vaccines.
Jane Doe queried all the data from CMS medical claims and has determined that the number of deaths occurred within three days of injection with the vaccines exceeds those reported by VAERS by a factor of at least five, indicating that the true number of deaths caused by the vaccines is at least 45,000.
At this point, there was this 45,000 figure, which was based on an anonymous expert witness who was guessing that you can multiply the VAERS data by five to get the true vaccine death numbers.
This is absolute garbage, and it means nothing.
She didn't get to this conclusion by way of data or death records.
She was just guessing and multiplying, and then Renz put that into his lawsuit.
I'm not impressed by any of this, and it's clearly him trying to just sort of redo the same hustle.
This new intel that he's bringing about is based on whistleblower information.
Yeah, yeah.
You just found a grift and he's going with it.
He's running with it full steam and good for him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, you know, you can't say that the headliner of that bill is doing anything different than that.
I mean, it's basically the same shit.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Some random person sends him some random bullshit and they grift off of it until they can't.
dan friesen
You passed the bar a couple months ago and you're like, hey, holy shit, here's a career.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'll make my career by being this guy.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And it works.
unidentified
There will never be any negative consequences in the future!
dan friesen
So it turns out he's got some other whistleblower documents that show that if you get vaccinated, you're more likely to get COVID.
jordan holmes
That doesn't make sense.
dan friesen
Holy shit.
jordan holmes
That's observably false.
unidentified
If you look at the last few slides, I'm going to read you this.
This is a direct quote from...
From one of the application for licensure for a booster for the Comunarity.
This is an exact quote from that document.
So this is an FDA document from Pfizer, right?
Pfizer says, an additional analysis appears to indicate that the incidence of COVID-19 generally increased in each group of study participants.
With increasing time post-dose 2. Well, so does that mean that you've got an increased likelihood of getting COVID after this shot?
Sounds like it.
jordan holmes
Are you asking me?
It's supposed to be your information.
dan friesen
I found this presentation on his website.
He has the slides up, and it's really funny.
The first slide is so fucking cocky.
Quote, Fact checkers, please post all apologies for misleading the American public on Facebook and Twitter.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
They will be censored shortly thereafter and you can join the rest of us in social media jail.
jordan holmes
At no point in time...
Look, if there's anything that we should hammer into first graders, this is the...
Before we get to arithmetic...
The definition of and ways to avoid hubris.
That is all we need to start with.
That's a fundament of education.
Avoid hubris.
dan friesen
The story of Icarus is relevant.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
So I scrolled down to the page that Ranz is talking about, and it's apparently an FDA briefing document from the Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee meeting from September 17th, 2021.
This page on his presentation, it includes the heading of it and then a random paragraph from the document.
This is an easily accessible document.
You can find the whole thing.
You do not need a whistleblower to get to it.
In fact, I found it, and what's going on is that the line that he read there is being taken completely out of context.
jordan holmes
That's not surprising.
dan friesen
It does say that, quote, Right.
That is true.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
Because Renz's PowerPoint presentation just chops this paragraph out of the text, you wouldn't know what this is referring to or even what's being analyzed.
jordan holmes
Seems like that would be important information.
dan friesen
Yeah, it is.
So this was a study that Pfizer carried out, and it was meant to, quote, compare rates of COVID-19 among participants who completed the two-dose primary series early in the study, i.e., those who were originally randomized into the experimental group, versus those who completed the two-dose primary series later in the study.
I.e., those who were originally randomized to placebo and then crossed over to the experimental group.
There is not an unvaccinated group that these people are being compared to.
The specific point of the study was just to test to see if there is a waning efficacy of the vaccine, and if so, was it something that should be addressed by boosters?
In the paragraph that Renz uses, they do say that people who got the shot earlier had 70.3 cases per 1,000 person years, compared to 51.6 cases for the group that was vaccinated more recently in the same 1,000 person years.
That would tend to support Renz's argument, or at least imply that vaccine efficacy could drop off a bit.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
However, Renz very clearly intentionally ignored the next paragraph.
Quote, in contrast, during the blinded placebo-controlled follow-up period of the study, with data cut off March 13th, 2021, prior to the Delta variant surge, the incidence of COVID-19 among recipients in the evaluable...
Evaluable efficacy population, nearly 60% of whom had four months or more of blinded follow-up post-dose 2, was 12.6 cases per 1,000 person-years.
This observation suggests that while waning immunity is one potential factor that may have contributed to the higher incidence breakthrough cases during the Delta variant surge, it's possible that other factors, e.g.
dynamics of the Delta variant transmission and potential differences in vaccine effectiveness against the Delta variant, Right.
saying that the vaccine will make you more likely to get COVID.
The part that Rents is using is saying that one data set showed some indications that people who got vaccinated more recently may have better protection than those people who were vaccinated longer ago.
But there's also data that seems to indicate that that conclusion might not be so certain and other vectors could be involved.
And he just ignores that paragraph.
Anyway, Thomas Renz is just cherry-picking bullshit and pretending credible whistleblowers are involved and he's rightly figured out all this stuff.
The only thing that he's figured out is that there's a lot of money to be made in being a lawyer for these right-wing shitheads.
And good.
Just keep doing it, dude.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, in this situation, this is one of those, like, do you not know how to read?
Do you not know how to read and comprehend?
Or are you reading, comprehending, and lying to people?
And it's like, if you pass the bar, even on your fifth try, you can read and comprehend.
dan friesen
Yeah, you'd think.
jordan holmes
Or you memorize the answers to the questions.
dan friesen
Yeah, it does tend to, I mean, all the surrounding context would lead somebody to a reasonable conclusion that he's intentionally ignoring the other part.
And the context that...
It's important.
jordan holmes
It does seem like their entire job is turning something...
And going, God, look at this!
This is so unreasonable!
A reasonable person would never allow this to happen!
And then not going, well, there is a reason for it.
And a bunch of reasonable people...
Came up with it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, also, this guy apparently was the guy who found the AI document that Mike Adams was reporting on.
jordan holmes
He's busy.
dan friesen
Yeah, so he's doing a lot of work.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's got it all.
dan friesen
So, anyway, he also seems to think that there's something going on and the American institutions are under attack.
jordan holmes
Sure.
unidentified
Yeah, meanwhile, you look across our nation at all the other institutions that are, you know, bedrock institutions of our nation, we're under attack.
alex jones
Sir, I had a court do default judgments on me when I gave them everything, and they assigned a new judge, and at the second hearing they just said default, and all of the news it says I've lost, and then I don't get the Seventh Amendment.
I'm just telling you, it's not just me.
It's on every front the bedrock is being removed.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, it really is, and I'm going to tell you, Alex, we want to be peaceful.
We want to do this the right way, but if we don't stand now, We're not going to be able to stand later.
You know, once you've lost freedom, you've lost it.
It's not coming back.
jordan holmes
Just say you want to kill people.
Jesus Christ.
Hey, we want to do this peacefully, but if we don't stand now, then we won't be able to stand later.
So the obvious distinction that I'm making is we should be violent now.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway, I listened to this.
I checked in on some of these documents.
I found some...
Suspicious presentation issues.
And that's why this next clip is really funny.
unidentified
I also have a bunch more information that I'm going to be breaking here coming up as soon as I can get it all analyzed.
We always double-check our work before we say anything because we can't afford to lose our credibility.
dan friesen
Oh, that's gonna be tough.
Wow.
jordan holmes
Just wow.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Just wow.
dan friesen
I can't afford to lose my credibility, so I'm gonna go talk to Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
See, this is the thing.
This is why I can never be in charge, because this type of shit, this is cartoonish, and it requires cartoon-based solutions.
Like, this is when, if somebody does that, in my government, we drop an anvil on your head.
dan friesen
Or a piano that's hoisted.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Exactly.
This is a cartoon.
There's no reason to treat you like you're a real person.
dan friesen
Meringue-based solutions.
jordan holmes
Yes, this is ridiculous.
How dare you?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You're a clown.
dan friesen
So anyway, these documents...
jordan holmes
And I'm a clown!
That's coming from a clown!
dan friesen
So these documents that Renz has...
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
They're just some of the documents that Alex has.
And these are the reasons that he is under attack.
And that's why you need to give him some fucking money.
alex jones
Of course they're trying to take us off the air.
And for what you see on the news with them saying, oh, Jones will be shut down, Jones will have all these judgments, Jones will have all that, on and on and on, that's not going to be the case, ladies and gentlemen, if you support us and spread the word about the articles and the videos and pray for us and have other talk show hosts rally behind us and other folks on Twitter, because Facebook and all that's down right now.
And support us and say, hey, see what you're not supposed to see.
Hear what you're supposed to hear.
Hear the verboten person that's under constant demonization, constant attack.
Why do the globalists fear him so much?
Because I'm covering their own documents.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So, yeah.
I gotta say, like, I know it's probably obvious, but his, like, financial stuff is acute in this episode.
Yeah.
It's excessive.
jordan holmes
He's very, very worried.
dan friesen
Very much so.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he has, for the third hour on Monday, he has Wayne Allen Root on the show, who's a Trumpy talk show host guy.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Also made a name for himself originally in, like, sports gambling.
jordan holmes
Cool.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He sucks.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But he is on because he has apparently written an article.
And maybe even a full book about the necessity of civil disobedience.
I think he wants to brand himself something of a Gandhi for the Trump era.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
I mean, look.
jordan holmes
Nonviolent resistance is not going to get you to the top in today's conservative climate.
dan friesen
No, but at the same time, a lot of this is just him.
Kind of discovering elementary ideas about organization.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
And, like, grassroots activism.
jordan holmes
All the stuff that conservatives have kind of hid from him all these years, he's suddenly discovering.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
wayne allen root
Well, first of all, in the book I list, the whole book is about one way of attacking, which is the way Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have done it for the last four decades.
They intimidate corporate America.
I'm a believer, Alex, that nothing happens from the politicians.
They're a bunch of nobodies, right?
The money is what allows them to be important and to make policy and to ruin our country.
And by the way, all the politicians, in my opinion, the most important ones are owned by China.
They're either owned or blackmailed by China.
So they don't care what we say, even if we are the majority.
And we've been the silent majority.
My book, The Great Patriot Protest, a boycott book, is all about making us the loud majority.
We've got to be loud.
We've got to tell corporate America that writes all the checks and backs all these politicians and backs all the PACs, not with $10 like you and I give, or $100 or $1,000.
They write $1 million and $10 million checks.
So the politicians listen to them, and we've got to bring them to their knees and starve them.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, on an elementary level, putting financial pressure on businesses is...
An effective organizing strategy.
But unfortunately, one of the things that he's going to quickly learn is that a lot of these same people that he would like to pressure also fund all of the information space and the politicians that he supports.
jordan holmes
There is that problem.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's kind of going to end up being shooting yourself in the foot.
jordan holmes
See, now what he doesn't understand, because he can't take it that next step further...
Is that this is endemic to the entire system.
And any idea of him being on the right side is quite laughable and silly.
dan friesen
Yeah, but it's like discovering something that everyone is already aware of for a long time.
But it's cute.
jordan holmes
You know what?
The management is really taking advantage of the workers.
And I just don't think we're being paid well.
And there's just no way to negotiate them with by myself because they can just fire me at any time.
I don't have any protections.
The law doesn't protect me.
This is a free market system.
The only way, the only way is if we all come together and do something like withhold something from these corporate power brokers.
It's, oh, how could we do that?
dan friesen
There's probably not a way to do it.
jordan holmes
There's just no way.
dan friesen
Well, actually, Wayne found a way.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And this is so sad.
wayne allen root
So I went out and I hired a team of telemarketers to dial the 116 most liberal, woke companies in America that survive on our sales.
We, conservatives, Christians, and patriots, are the ones buying their products, but they're spitting in our face, they're insulting us, they're offending us, they're ignoring us.
So I identified what I think are the top 116.
Coca-Cola, AT&T, that owns CNN, Ben& Jerry's.
The list is long.
Victoria's Secret.
And we can bring them to their knees.
So I had the telemarketers find out with hundreds of phone calls.
Pushing, pushing, pushing.
What's the phone number of the CEO?
What's the email for the CEO?
What's the social media accounts?
What's the websites?
What is the physical mailing address?
And I've got the board of directors' names and the CEO's names.
So now you just open the book and you dial.
dan friesen
This implies that it's not as grassroots as he wants to sort of imagine.
I mean, he had to hire a team of telemarketers to harass people.
jordan holmes
Quite literally, they are paid protesters.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah, this isn't fun.
This is kind of stupid.
Also, wasn't there just a recent story about how AT&T...
jordan holmes
AT&T provides 90% of One America News' funding?
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Real woke company.
jordan holmes
Woke as shit, AT&T.
You know that company that has essentially built a truck?
And is unwilling to budge on coverage or anything like that because they completely control them.
dan friesen
So he got these telemarketers.
So woke.
And he paid them to find the contact information for CEOs and stuff.
And he's putting it in his book so you can harass them too.
jordan holmes
You know what?
I'm fine with that.
Because one, I think it's hilarious.
Fine.
If that's how you get to corporations, by picking the most woke ones, fine.
You win.
You got the most woke corporations.
dan friesen
You're not going to like the outcome of it.
Exactly.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Your political interests are not served by these corporations losing whatever power they have.
jordan holmes
I don't know why you think they're woke or liberal, but whatever it is you need to hate those corporations, I'm fine with it.
God bless you.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that if some kind of quote-unquote Antifa group were finding CEOs of right-leaning companies like Hobby Lobby or whatever and posting their contact information, I think Alex would not enjoy that.
jordan holmes
No, no.
Also, I think if an Antifa group picked the most right-leaning corporations, it would be the identical fucking list that this asshole has.
dan friesen
I bet there would be overlap.
jordan holmes
There's significant overlap.
dan friesen
So, look, Wayne, good on you, I guess.
I mean, like, if you're posting, like, ways to get in contact with decision makers for corporations, I don't know if that's bad, but if you're putting, like, home addresses or phone numbers or doxing people, I think that that's still maybe, like, I don't know if that's cool.
I'm not sure what he did.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It might just be a corporate email address that's in his book.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
But anyway.
There's a tale of victory that Wayne has that is the saddest fucking thing I've ever heard.
wayne allen root
And just one person that bought my book, one, on the first day he came out, sent me an email and said, Wayne, I sent an email to the head of Nordstrom's, the head of Costco, and the head of AT&T.
And all three answered back and said, why are you boycotting?
Don't do this to us.
What can I do to make you happy?
That was one.
Can you imagine if we got 100,000 or a million patriots to do this every day?
Five minutes a day, send three out.
Tomorrow, a new three.
The next day, a new three.
alex jones
I totally agree.
Wayne, Wayne, stay there.
We're going to come back and talk about this all.
dan friesen
This guy got, like, customer service emails.
jordan holmes
I've just discovered something!
It's called spam email!
And it's how we're going to take this country back!
unidentified
Huh.
jordan holmes
There's no way they'll figure out how to organize their inbox.
dan friesen
Here I am, the CEO of Costco.
I got 100,000 emails saying the people were going to boycott us, but our numbers are unaffected.
I'll ignore these emails.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
Our sales are up 2% in this quarter.
dan friesen
Or maybe whenever these emails come in, hit them with a form response.
Oh, no.
I'm so sorry.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
Not an email campaign.
Oh, boy.
You know, I was just thinking about that women's march.
You know, the two million just walking through the streets and how effective that was.
But, man.
That did everything.
I can't believe what would have happened if they had run an email campaign.
dan friesen
I can't count the number of times where I've had something that didn't get delivered or something.
I ordered a frame from Wayfair, and it didn't come.
jordan holmes
All you got with that was that little kid.
dan friesen
Yeah, I sent an email about how this sucks.
I got a response.
And they were like, I'm so sorry.
They're going to change their corporate policies.
jordan holmes
The whole thing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Everything.
They are going to pay their workers more.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Stop sending kids in their furniture.
That one they did a little while ago.
Quietly.
dan friesen
So, we have one last clip here of Wayne.
And this is not good.
wayne allen root
And I'm telling you, I'm not the most religious person in the entire world, but I do believe this is the devil.
Rules for Radicals is their Bible, the left, and it's dedicated to Lucifer.
And it's not a coincidence that Joe Biden the other day said, well, we haven't passed my agenda yet, my $3.5 trillion bill.
If it takes six days, six weeks, or six months, we'll pass it.
Six, six, six.
Why did he say it that way?
Pure chance?
alex jones
No, they're sending out codes.
dan friesen
Yeah, man, they're sending out devil codes.
jordan holmes
There's nothing I can do for you, sir.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Sir, I'm gonna have to ask you to leave.
unidentified
Why did he say six days, six weeks, six months?
dan friesen
Well, it's the devil.
jordan holmes
It's the devil.
dan friesen
It's obviously the devil.
jordan holmes
Can't be anything other than the devil.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
So, you know, we see this period of response, and, you know, obviously Alex is in not good mood about the cases.
jordan holmes
He could use some money.
dan friesen
He's desperately trying to fundraise.
Yeah.
I mean, it's hilariously transparent.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is bad.
dan friesen
But he hasn't, you know, on these episodes, he hasn't reached a point yet where it would be like losing his shit.
Right.
You know?
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And I still think that may be on the horizon.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, if I'm listening to this, even for an InfoWars listener, I am absorbing some of this news and I'm just going, this ship.
Is sinking.
And every time he says he needs money to fight the globalists, all I hear is another bucket of water going on that ship.
dan friesen
If you're a fan, even like, how do you not hear this and be like, oh, he's saying he really, really needs money.
He just ended up being on the hook for a lot of money in those lawsuits.
Do you think that's connected?
jordan holmes
I don't know if he's trying to expand, frankly.
And I'm going to search my memory real quick.
His last expansion was Corsi in DC.
dan friesen
Well, no, because he also did that, like, firepower show that got canceled.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
Yeah, not good.
Not a good track record.
unidentified
Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh.
dan friesen
Ooh, what about that show that was all callers that he's going to start?
jordan holmes
Oh, with Old Man Housephone?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Co-hosting?
dan friesen
Yeah, what about that show that's been on the back burner for five years?
jordan holmes
Anytime now.
Anytime now.
Oh my god.
Harrison Smith, he's going to do all calls.
unidentified
I remember that.
dan friesen
Yep.
unidentified
That went well.
dan friesen
Fired David Knight.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Where's Steve?
jordan holmes
I know.
I was kind of hoping for a Steve conspiracy about the lawsuits.
dan friesen
Well, maybe it'll come in the future.
But we'll track some other days after this on Monday's episode.
But, you know, it'll just be too much to bite off all at once.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
But we'll be back for that.
Until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep.
We also are on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are.
It's at knowledge underscore fight and at GoToBedJordan.
dan friesen
And?
jordan holmes
And?
dan friesen
You just launched an Instagram for the show.
jordan holmes
Oh, I did launch an Instagram!
We're knowledge underscore fight on Instagram?
unidentified
Yeah.
Indeed?
dan friesen
We decided we gotta promote a little bit.
jordan holmes
Well, I think we just decided that we should put our cat pictures somewhere.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Promote is a very generous...
dan friesen
We've got to get with it in terms of...
jordan holmes
Everybody wants to see the Celine pics.
dan friesen
Eight years from now, we're going to get on TikTok.
jordan holmes
I don't know if that's ever going to happen for us.
dan friesen
Probably not.
Anyway, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZX Clark, I'm Daryl Rundis.
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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