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#598: September 17, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan deal with another "unacceptable" episode of The Alex Jones Show. In this installment, Alex does everything in his power to dehumanize refugees from Haiti, interviews a horrible person, and gets a bit defensive about how he's not as hot as he used to be. Citations

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alex jones
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dan friesen
44:45
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jordan holmes
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steve quayle
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tim enlow
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dan friesen
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are.
Dan!
dan friesen
Jordan!
Jordan, quick question for you.
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot today is at long last.
I have finally been able to check off seeing the Mighty Mighty Boss Tones from my bucket list.
I was thinking about it.
I was 12, I think, when the impression that I get came out on the radio.
I was just like, I love these horns!
It was so exciting.
My brother's a little bit older than me, and so more tuned into music, and so he had that album, and he played for me another drinking song.
And that song is so great, it just blew my mind.
And I remember hearing that they were on a radio show being interviewed, and it ended up turning out to be Loveline.
And I remember I stayed up with a radio listening in my bed, listening in to hear the Boss Tones on Loveline.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
And I loved them.
And I went back and I found all their old records.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Yeah, it was just great.
jordan holmes
Built up a lifelong love of Loveline.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't want to talk about it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's fair enough.
That's fair enough.
dan friesen
We were talking before we started recording, and I was telling you, it was not the set list I would have chosen.
And it was a little bit underwhelming.
I got a little depressed, and one of the songs made me think that they might be vaccine skeptics.
And I realized, like, I don't know anything about the Boston's politics.
This isn't good.
I haven't listened to any of their albums since, like, Jackknife to a Swan, so I have no idea what they've been up to in the last decade.
But seeing them do Someday, I suppose, live was really just great.
jordan holmes
Felt good.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It felt like a moment that had been a long time coming in my life.
Like, that song really meant a lot to me when I was younger.
And, man.
They still sound sharp.
I mean, I can't take that away from them.
And for someone who has Dickie Barrett's voice, that growling, like, the fact that he is as old as he is now and can still sound pretty good is not, like...
jordan holmes
No, that's great.
dan friesen
That's impressive.
jordan holmes
It is fantastic.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It is, like, you know, it's a little bit like how baseball players or tennis players, you know, their prime used to be 23, 24, and now you can hit all the way up till 30, 31, you know, like Rafa and Djokovic, all those guys, they're...
The same is true, I feel like, for the rolling stuff.
Like, we've got so much technology now.
dan friesen
Honey and tea technology.
unidentified
Exactly!
jordan holmes
We didn't have that before!
Soft compresses?
They're everywhere.
dan friesen
Vicks VapoRub.
I felt really weird, too, about the idea of going to Riot Fest because, you know, it's a large gathering of people.
But, you know, I talked it over with some people that I trusted their opinions on.
You know, the fact that you had to present a vaccination card to get in.
There was a lot of space to, like, you know, trying.
I wasn't going in the pit or anything.
I wasn't going in the skank circle with the boss tones.
And, you know, masks.
People were still wearing masks and stuff.
So it felt like a responsible risk as far as it went.
But there's still a part of my brain that couldn't get past that.
You know, they couldn't get past, like...
This long period of time readjusting to what is okay.
jordan holmes
I get it.
dan friesen
It's tough.
jordan holmes
You know, the thing that happened for me was whenever...
Because Lollapalooza this year, I was looking at that going...
dan friesen
It was horrifying.
jordan holmes
We're fucked.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This is going to be a nightmare.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And then only a tiny, tiny percentage actually...
It was not a super spreader event.
It's almost like it was the people you came with if it was that number of people, you know?
dan friesen
I remember...
I don't remember the exact statistics on it, but yeah, I remember the follow-up on that.
unidentified
It was like 500 people, yeah.
dan friesen
The numbers were shockingly low in terms of any cases that were traceable to...
And I think that did make me feel a little bit more comfortable.
They're like, well, if you're doing these things, if you can do them responsibly, and especially if it's like, you know, vaccine card checking for entry.
I don't know.
Maybe we're at a point where, you know...
Some reasonable risks can be accepted.
I will still be in my house alone for the next six months.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
Quarantining.
Yeah, gotta make sure.
dan friesen
But it felt worth it to do.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No, it is also a little bit that kind of...
We've talked about it for months now, but that two different Americas, the vaccinated and unvaccinated.
You can go to a fucking festival, you know?
But then you go to an unvaccinated part of America and you can't fuck around.
It's everywhere.
It's bananas.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It is bananas.
dan friesen
It is.
So what's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot today, Dan, is, as you well know, I live a very unhealthy lifestyle.
dan friesen
Boy, do you.
jordan holmes
Boy, do I. That's coming from me.
Pretty ecstatic.
Yeah.
Well, last night, my partner and I...
We've signed up for some, like, healthy thing.
They send you meals.
dan friesen
The food box kind of thing?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They do that whole thing.
dan friesen
No free rides.
Don't give them a shout out.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely not.
But it's not one of the ones that advertises on podcasts, I guess.
It's way more healthy.
And so last night I ate my first Beyond Meat.
dan friesen
Oh, so it's like a meat replacement even.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
It's doing the whole thing.
dan friesen
That's interesting.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I tried it and everybody who says it's like regular meat can fuck off.
It's not.
However, it is not.
Not unlike regular meat.
You know what I mean?
dan friesen
Yeah, that's kind of the sense that I've got from talking to people.
It's like, yeah, there are similarities to meat.
It's not exactly the same, but it's like a drastic improvement over what was there before.
jordan holmes
Oh, totally.
dan friesen
And that alone is still pretty good.
I mean, some progress is being made.
jordan holmes
Oh, we ate a burger.
It was like good.
And yesterday, all vegetables.
unidentified
Nice.
jordan holmes
That was my first all-vegetable day.
Ever, maybe.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
On purpose.
dan friesen
He's gone vegan.
Look at those boots.
jordan holmes
It's not going to last very long, but I did it.
I'm proud of myself.
dan friesen
I'm happy for you, too.
I'm sure the audience is applauding.
jordan holmes
Yes, I'm sure.
dan friesen
I think that that's the best context for those meal delivery things, is within a couple.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because I tried it once, and I was on my own.
I'm just like, I'm not cooking this shit.
jordan holmes
Why?
Why would I?
Why would I do that?
dan friesen
Yeah.
It was very depressing to see the meals just sitting there.
They still take a little bit of preparation.
It's not like I can just pull it out of the fridge and chomp it.
jordan holmes
You know what's amazing about it?
And the thing that is the only big thing for me, because fuck being healthier with vegan nonsense or whatever.
I mean, I do feel...
It took one day of eating vegetables.
I feel way better.
But the point is portion control.
Like, last night, I ate what made me full.
And then I was done.
I didn't have another entire meal of Chinese food to continue jamming into my face, because it tastes good.
It was great.
dan friesen
So you just eat things that are gross, so you eat the right amount.
Exactly.
Well, I look forward to tracking your adventure.
jordan holmes
We'll see what happens.
dan friesen
Today, Jordan, we're in the present day of Alex Jones' show.
jordan holmes
I almost said blackjack.
dan friesen
September 17th, 2021.
jordan holmes
Blackjack.
dan friesen
Oh, shit.
Thought I could sneak it in while you were laughing.
jordan holmes
During present day, I was like, well, that's Blackjack for sure.
dan friesen
That's Blackjack time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, look, this episode's pretty...
White nationalist.
jordan holmes
Oh, great.
Great.
We're going there.
dan friesen
Yeah, a lot of this is not necessarily breaking new ground, but some of the stuff that Alex says is shockingly awful, and also there's a topic that comes up that I would like to talk about.
So we'll get to that, but before we do, let's take a little moment and say hello to some new wonks.
jordan holmes
That's a good idea.
dan friesen
So first, Adam, thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Adam!
dan friesen
Back out next to Sydney.
Thank you so much.
You're now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Sidney!
unidentified
Thank you!
dan friesen
Next, Todd Clorox, the Clorox man with the Clorox plan.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much!
dan friesen
Next, I drink IPAs and have a cool dog.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you!
dan friesen
Jason, also, thank you.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Jason!
unidentified
Thank you!
dan friesen
And finally, I worry I'm subconsciously indoctrinating my son to Alex Jones by listening to this podcast while looking after him.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Do not listen to our podcast around children.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
They don't understand the context.
dan friesen
Yeah, if you are pregnant or with a child, do not listen to this podcast.
You know how they say that, you know, in the womb...
jordan holmes
Mozart.
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
This podcast is the opposite.
jordan holmes
It is not going to end well for you.
No.
And even if your child becomes successful, it's going to be an avenue like this, and you don't want that.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
You don't want that.
dan friesen
Let me tell you, this ain't no life to wish upon a child.
jordan holmes
Get a good union job!
Pipe fitters!
Pipe fitters are a great job!
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we start here, Jordan, on September 17th, Blackjack 2021.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's not even...
unidentified
Ah, shit!
dan friesen
And Alex has a big news story, not so concerned with COVID for most of this episode, although it is apparently a bioweapon that's going to kill everybody.
There's bigger news, and that is there are Haitians in America.
alex jones
Well, now in one bridge in Del Rio, Texas, and there's 20, 30 major bridges or more, there have been over 10,000 Haitians just yesterday.
Now it's over 15,000, and they banned any drones with...
The technocracy with the geofence they put up, the drones are pre-programmed.
We were there with our drones.
They suddenly wouldn't take off.
The Fox News drones wouldn't take off.
And the Border Patrol came and said, we put up a geofence under order of Biden.
You can't fly these.
So we simply went to the Mexico side and got one up.
And we were able to get footage that nobody else has.
Last night as the sun was setting, thousands more surging across.
The border and walking over a dangerous spillway in the Rio Grande, men, women, and children, because Biden eight days ago said any Haitians that get here, we're going to not check their ID, not COVID test them, just bring them into the United States to sign them up for welfare and use them as a permanent underclass.
dan friesen
Yeah, that sounds like what Biden announced.
jordan holmes
Or we were accepting refugees from a nightmarish hellscape that climate change itself has caused, as well as...
Roar and turmoil over the weird assassination of their president by some random-ass doctor in Florida?
dan friesen
We'll get to this in a second, but I want to just put right up front, I'm not entirely sure what was going on with the no-fly area over this bridge in Del Rio.
I presume that there may be a safety reason why that was done.
In terms of not allowing Fox News' drone to fly over.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I don't know, but I do think that that's a legitimate question.
That is the only thing that I think is legitimate within any of this coverage.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Is it appropriate to say media companies cannot fly a drone over this area?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I'm not sure.
jordan holmes
Right.
I mean...
Here's my only rebuttal to that, is at the end of the day, if Fox News and Infowars are trying to put drones over a bridge where refugees are coming, they stop being media organizations and start turning into propagandists trying to get people killed.
dan friesen
I agree.
jordan holmes
So at that point, I was like, the moment he said they wouldn't allow drones to take off, I was like, oh yeah, that's what I would have done.
Because they're just going to get propaganda footage.
dan friesen
I don't know at what point you are able to say that rule is you can't do this because you're going to do bad things with the pictures.
jordan holmes
After the migrant caravan.
dan friesen
I mean, we should have learned our lesson there.
jordan holmes
See?
I think they did by turning all the drones off.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this story, if you just hear it from Alex, is that Joe Biden is begging Haitians to come to the United States where they'll be accepted in with no process at all, put on welfare, and used as a political weapon against people like Alex Reid, white people.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's essentially 100% just the newest articulation of the Great Replacement narrative, and it's little more than white nationalism pretending to be a policy concern.
So here's the real story.
There's approximately...
Yeah, they do that.
If you want to request asylum and plead your case to the United States, you have to be in the United States.
You can't be across the border.
is a tool of the right-wing media.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
So this isn't a situation where this is an invasion point, nor is it a situation that you can extrapolate to every bridge on the Texas-Mexico border.
It's a specific set of circumstances that exist for a reason, and it's a humanitarian and logistical challenge, not a crisis that requires retreating to white supremacist conspiracy theories.
This is kind of the state of things for Alex's information space, though.
Much like there will never be election coverage anymore that isn't rooted in an assumption that the Democrats are cheating and the GOP are secretly always the rightful winners, there's never going to be any coverage of any immigration or refugee-related stories on Alex's show that isn't firmly entrenched in a belief that non-white people coming to the United States is an attack on white people in the United States.
jordan holmes
Explicitly.
dan friesen
Yes.
Yeah.
unidentified
One of the large contributing factors to the specific circumstances we're seeing now is that there was a large influx of people from Haiti seeking asylum for very understandable reasons, like you touched on.
dan friesen
Their president was assassinated in July, and then there's a huge earthquake in mid-August that destroyed over 120,000 homes.
Earlier in the year, immigrant rights groups had noted that Biden's administration had actually been using Title 42 expulsions to deport immigrants back to Haiti more than Trump even did.
Title 42 is part of the U.S. code that says the president can limit the ability of migrants to come to the United States if they come from countries where communicable diseases are present to a level that there's a potential health risk.
Trump evoked this in the context of COVID to limit the ability of migrants to come to the United States.
And unlike how you might have hoped it would go, Biden has continued with this policy.
And many folks on the left have been intensely critical of him for this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I do like how people are like, nobody on the left criticizes Joe Biden!
Yeah.
dan friesen
They are.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
That was spiteful.
Yeah, I know.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
dan friesen
Right.
Side note, if you ever wondered why there are particular countries that end up becoming hot-button topics for right-wing media, you know, like in terms of immigration, it's usually because these countries are on the temporary protected status list.
Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Venezuela, all on the list.
Anyway, Haiti was on the TPS list, and thus deportations should have been halted.
But it turns out that last week, quote, Immigration and Customs Enforcement on Wednesday expelled 86 Haitian nationals from the United States and flew them back to Haiti.
This was fairly shocking, given the prior TPS announcement, and migrant rights groups as well as Democratic House members like Ayanna Pressley had sharp criticism.
There's a lot going on here, and Biden's administration appears to be really dropping the ball in terms of this issue.
In response to the news of the situation at the Del Rio Bridge, ICE announced that they were planning to ramp up deportations, with eight deportation flights within this next week and ten a week after that, which is, there seems to be...
Very incongruous messaging coming from different parts of the government.
jordan holmes
To a not small extent, going back to the Obama administration, ICE has often seemed like they have become just a complete rogue agency.
dan friesen
I don't know how to look at some of the information that you're able to find in the stories about this that don't seem like...
Wait, why are you doing that?
This is exactly against the stated Department of Homeland Security announcement.
jordan holmes
No, you know, it is a little bit like that.
So, all too often, part of the reason that you know that the Chicago PD is a complete rogue agency is because any time they disagree with the mayor or whatever, all of a sudden the mayor agrees with them.
And it's partly because if you really allowed that to go and fought back against them, people would find out that they have just as much power, if not more, than the mayor.
And you don't want to look like you're not as powerful as your own cops.
So, I imagine Biden doesn't want to look like he literally cannot control ICE.
dan friesen
There may be something to that.
I was very confused, though, looking into the details of this story, because, I mean, at my pay grade, I don't understand how this works.
jordan holmes
I mean, you know.
I guess a lot of people in every government have always been like, we've got a certain amount that we can do, and fucking with ICE is going to be a lot more than we can do today.
dan friesen
Maybe.
So we've lived through a number of scares on Alex's part about immigration.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
All of them look kind of embarrassing in hindsight.
jordan holmes
No, they've all come true.
dan friesen
But this Haiti one's real.
And so Alex has sent employees down to the border to take care of it.
But one of them...
I think he was getting married, and then another one couldn't go for another reason, which is really sad.
jordan holmes
Probably because they have code?
dan friesen
No.
alex jones
Drone captures footage of a humongous, gigantic, new Haitian caravan slamming over the Texas border last night, and our crew is there now with no sleep, doing an amazing job.
A skeleton crew is there doing an amazing job on the ground.
Getting even more insane footage as we speak.
So this is ongoing.
One of our camera guys is getting married this weekend.
Another had his own podcast he had to do last night.
That's fine, I understand.
We're just down to a skeleton cruise.
We sent four people down there.
We're doing an amazing job.
We need to hire more crew.
We need to expand.
But that's really up to you and your support, and I appreciate you all.
But Infowarsstore.com is bringing you all this information.
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dan friesen
Wow.
Do you want to plug your employees' podcast?
jordan holmes
AJ, AJ, I have to do my own podcast.
There are anywhere from between 100 to 200 listeners who will be very unhappy if I don't get it out tomorrow.
dan friesen
Hey, Alex, sorry, I can't help you save the border.
I've got to record my podcast.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that tells you just how important a big deal this is, you know?
Like, oh, wow, I gotta do my podcast.
dan friesen
I feel like this is either...
I mean, it definitely indicates an inability on Alex's part to convince his employees of the seriousness of the things that they are paid to cover.
jordan holmes
I would have left that little excuse to just personal reasons.
dan friesen
A wedding?
Great.
You're not gonna reschedule a wedding to agitate against immigrants?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You can't save the country.
dan friesen
Now, podcast recording.
So one of the people who does end up going to the border, I don't know who else is there, because this is the only person they bring up, is Tim Inlow, who's one of the guys who went with Alex the last time they went down to harass the Catholic charity in McAllen.
And he's also former Blackwater, so that's cool.
jordan holmes
Great, great.
dan friesen
And he believes that, you know, the UN's trying to replace us with Haitians.
jordan holmes
Sure.
unidentified
There is no way.
tim enlow
Something like this on such a massive scale that that can occur in a vacuum or that can occur just by happenstance.
unidentified
This is organized.
These people all have cell phones.
We've showed that to you.
These people have the ability to recharge their cell phones, to have cell phone cards to pay for the services.
tim enlow
They have supplies, fresh clothes, food, everything.
unidentified
And this is a journey that takes months for them.
Months.
tim enlow
So this is absolutely a UN-sponsored, Soros-funded invasion of the United States.
unidentified
And the goal is clear.
We know what the goal is.
tim enlow
It is absolutely replacement migration.
unidentified
There is no doubt about that.
dan friesen
Jesus.
Pretty blunt.
jordan holmes
It is weird that a guy who more likely than not committed war crimes in another country that we invaded is now like, oh no!
unidentified
In those sorrows!
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think that it's uncompelling that the evidence of humanitarian aid existing is proof that there's an invasion of our country.
I don't know.
I find that to be unconvincing.
jordan holmes
The UN is feeding and clothing people and then bringing them to the United States.
What they should be doing is invading another country and killing them.
alex jones
Duh!
jordan holmes
That's how this works.
dan friesen
So Tim sucks.
He is very bluntly just, you know, spitting what is essentially watered down white nationalist propaganda.
And it gets worse.
Like, he legitimately seems to...
This is the first instance on this show of someone at Infowars saying dehumanizing things about people from other countries.
unidentified
That's not good.
alex jones
And the Haitians are also just dumping their children off and leaving them in the bushes and never coming back, just like we saw at Bagram Air Base with the women throwing their babies over the walls.
unidentified
That's exactly right, right?
tim enlow
In some of these cultures, children quite honestly are viewed as dispensable, right?
They serve a purpose, whether that purpose is to eventually marry them off for profit or, you know, whatever the purpose is.
unidentified
It varies from culture to culture.
But what they don't have...
Is the very close attachment that we in the West feel, right?
tim enlow
The responsibility to stay with that child and even die for that child if necessary.
alex jones
Wow.
jordan holmes
If you can just take something that somebody says and then put the word gypsy in it and then go, like, that's literally what Nazis said.
You don't get to fly drones over refugees.
dan friesen
That's how you're going to litigate this.
jordan holmes
It seems like a very simple equation.
dan friesen
That's an interesting way to do it.
Yeah, I just think that when you are trying to rally people against refugees, asylum seekers, immigrants, and part of your argument is they don't love their children in the same way.
They don't have that attachment to children the way us in the West do.
You are fucked up.
This is not a policy kind of show.
There's no politics in it.
This is straight demonization.
jordan holmes
I mean, it doesn't surprise me, though.
What would you think somebody who went into another country and committed war crimes would think?
You know?
dan friesen
Allegedly.
jordan holmes
More likely than not.
dan friesen
There you go.
jordan holmes
There's a higher percentage possibility.
dan friesen
I find it to be completely unacceptable.
Like when the conversation is about a situation with Haitians fleeing from this gigantic earthquake and political instability and a myriad other issues trying to find safety and security in the United States.
And your conversation involves they don't love their children like white people do.
Go fuck yourself.
How about that?
You don't get a place at the table.
You don't get to talk.
jordan holmes
You don't.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
What the fuck?
They don't love their children.
Fuck off.
dan friesen
So Alex gets to talking about Klaus Schwab a little bit.
Sure.
Can't not.
You gotta talk Schwab.
jordan holmes
You gotta talk Schwab.
It's today.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And so, you know, Gray Reset, all that good stuff.
Alex has some sources that he wants to point to about Schwab that are a little bit sad.
alex jones
If you go to Wikipedia and Klaus Schwab's own Wikipedia, former head of the Bilderberg Group, head of the corporate fascist group that runs the UN, he said, we are going to capture all the nation states.
And that was six years ago.
dan friesen
Why are you relying on Wikipedia, man?
Shouldn't you...
jordan holmes
High-level sources in Wikipedia.
dan friesen
Klaus Schraub didn't say whatever he said to Wikipedia.
Whatever that is that may or may not be on Wikipedia is a citation from somewhere else.
So you should cite that thing instead if you have any kind of awareness of the larger thing.
jordan holmes
I can really see why he dropped out of community college.
dan friesen
Holy shit.
So Schwab's Wikipedia page, like I said, not a great source for Alex to be pulling out.
But if you do go to it, you'll find a section about a proposal that was put out by the World Economic Forum back in 2010 when Schwab was the head of the organization.
The proposal argued that governments were no longer the, quote, dominant actors on the world stage and that it could be time for a new model of governance that reflected a stakeholder paradigm.
This was a proposal.
The part about capturing the countries, that isn't Schwab saying that he's going to capture the world's countries.
It's a description of this proposal that was given by the Transnational Institute.
The Wikipedia page quotes them, which is what Alex is presenting as something that Schwab said.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Also, Alex would absolutely think that the Transnational Institute were a bunch of globalists because they get funding from the Rockefeller Brothers for...
jordan holmes
Well, that'll do it.
dan friesen
That could be a little difficult for Alex to try and explain when his worldview is so dependent on good versus evil.
Yeah.
unidentified
How could it be possible that this Rockefeller funded group has a sharp criticism of a policy proposal from the World Economic Forum?
dan friesen
They're all evil globalists.
And they're trying to work on the same goals.
This makes no sense!
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is like a...
You know, this is a screenwriting situation.
This is a book adaptation where you combine a couple characters into one character in your movie, and you just kind of move along.
dan friesen
Nonsense.
jordan holmes
Sure, it's not accurate, but come on.
dan friesen
So anyway, Wikipedia, add that to...
I guess on our last episode, we had Alex reporting on a tweet.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
A hoax Facebook meme.
So we're strong stuff here.
This guy's...
Up all night doing his research.
jordan holmes
I would be interested to see his citations page for this episode and I guess his community college career as well.
dan friesen
It's probably just like, you know, like back in the day you'd sit on a Xerox machine and Xerox your ass.
That's his citations page.
jordan holmes
What's MLA format for your ass?
dan friesen
So, more dehumanization of immigrants coming right up.
alex jones
Yeah, there's the UN saying, we want to abolish all borders to solve the world's problems.
And I've got articles here out of the UK and Europe.
Where they're being flooded by millions a month, basically, and they say the UN came to the UK and others and said, please consider just getting rid of your borders.
That's a headline I've got today.
Please consider getting rid of your borders today.
Completely.
And then they cut the food off the third world, tens of millions starve to death, and then giant hordes of military-age men.
Who have grown up in the most vicious slums on the planet and who on average have been malnourished, meaning bad brain development.
I don't care if you're black or white.
And you basically have the equivalent of zombies.
dan friesen
Jeez.
jordan holmes
You know when you put in immediately after the words that you are specifically using to describe black people, I don't care if you're black or white, you are 100% describing black people.
dan friesen
I think you could see through.
I mean, it's the same thing as the code of, like, the West and all this shit.
I think that if Alex actually believed any of the things he's saying and he wasn't just trying to find ways to dehumanize migrants and make his audience think of them as things, not people...
He should be staunchly in favor of government subsidized food programs for all citizens.
If he thinks that malnutrition turns people into zombies then he should support free lunch programs and universal access to nutrition.
I can't imagine he'd want his fellow citizens to be turned into zombies just because they can't afford good food.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I bet he would super support the Black Panther breakfast program, you know?
dan friesen
I bet he'd love it.
jordan holmes
Because they wanted to make sure that people didn't grow up to be zombies and they weren't malnourished.
And he doesn't care if you're black or white.
Obviously, he must have supported the Black Panther Party.
dan friesen
Seems like he would...
Consistency dictates that he should.
jordan holmes
Seems like it.
dan friesen
So anyway, the story about the UN saying that everyone should get rid of borders.
unidentified
Please, please, sir, would you consider getting rid of your borders?
dan friesen
That's just Alex lying and misrepresenting a story about a representative from the UN Human Rights Council suggesting to the UK Parliament that they should not implement a new immigration bill into law because doing so would make criminals of many refugees and asylum seekers.
Tagliucci Lohr said, quote, There's something ironic in the way that we're so concerned about them while they're there,
but we're not ready to consider them when they come to the UK.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So that's what Alex is saying.
This new law that's being discussed.
It's a bill in the UK that could become law.
The UN Human Rights Council was advising, like, you shouldn't do this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
People who are able to flee from countries.
jordan holmes
The UN was like, who the fuck wrote this?
The Koch brothers?
What is wrong with you people?
dan friesen
You may end up then incarcerating.
jordan holmes
Insane.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
Look, this next clip sucks.
There's no way around it.
alex jones
They brainwash these people.
They give them phones.
They give them debit cards with $1,000 to $3,000 on them.
And they bring them here pissed, believing they're all about to get everything free.
It's like all the muzzles being brought into Europe, being told you're going to get all the women you want.
They show up and start raping and saying, I want my women.
90% never get off welfare or brought into Europe.
It's the same thing here.
This is what's going on.
Bringing the third world here not to empower these people, but to bring us down to their level while the globalists fly around on private jets and live in 100,000-acre private ranches guarded by robots.
dan friesen
I think you almost lost track of that sentence at the end.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm trying to be as racist as possible, and then it just fizzled out at the end.
dan friesen
Robot guards.
jordan holmes
I guess.
Robots?
I don't know.
Let's be racist towards them, too.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
That sucks.
jordan holmes
That's real, like, hey, man.
You're talking genocide.
No more talking for you.
dan friesen
Please also cite your sources on the 90% of immigrants never get off welfare.
Particularly considering, I mean, when you say welfare, it's like, what do you mean by welfare?
That's such a broad category of, you know, there's social programs that are involved.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So what are you talking about, first of all?
Are you talking about, like, food assistance?
jordan holmes
SNAP benefits, yeah.
dan friesen
Are you talking about Medicaid?
What are you talking about?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Then you have to think about Well, in the United States, there are rules in place that you can't be on welfare programs for five years after arriving here.
Right.
And so, okay, what about that, Alex?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's talking about Europe.
So look at Europe.
Which country?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Look, what are you talking about?
unidentified
No, no, it's Europe.
jordan holmes
It's a big year.
Big Europe!
dan friesen
There's so many differences in terms of what kind of a welfare state exists between, like, Scandinavian countries and other...
It's outrageous.
Like, I don't...
This means nothing.
jordan holmes
No.
No.
dan friesen
Except that Alex really wants to agitate against immigrants.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Especially considering, I mean, just the sheer volume of immigrant stories that are told about America.
Going back since it fucking began.
Like, that's one of our favorite fucking stories is people who come here from a different country and then turn into a thing here.
Like, that's what we love to hear about.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's our lore.
jordan holmes
It's our favorite story.
Like, I came into Ellis Island, they changed my fucking name, and I still didn't murder anybody.
I'm still a good person.
Brutal.
dan friesen
So, you know, I complained a little bit recently about that meme that went around again of Alex, you know, the Bon Iver song.
And then a little bit after that, there was another thing that went a little viral of Alex.
And it was a clip of him from like, I don't know, sometime in the 90s, back when he was on like public access TV.
It was him when he was young.
jordan holmes
When his dad bought him a show?
dan friesen
It was around then.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he was an attractive dude.
We've talked about this before.
He was an attractive man when he was younger.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And I've seen this video of him a number of times.
I don't know if it was from his...
Just from his show or if he included it in one of his early documentaries.
But it's him on a street in Austin complaining about how one of the council members' houses is overgrown, like the plants in the yard, because someone, I guess probably a right-wing weirdo, had gotten a ticket.
For having an overgrown yard or something.
He's like, well, this city council member.
You know, and it's like, granted, the stakes are pissant.
It's nonsense.
jordan holmes
Go back to those stakes.
dan friesen
Sure.
Whatever.
He doesn't seem like the Alex Jones that you know now.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And that's obviously because of money and drugs, alcohol.
jordan holmes
Everything.
dan friesen
Yes.
Yeah.
Negative reinforcement patterns.
Yeah.
All sorts of things.
jordan holmes
I mean, just basic malignant narcissism.
There's definitely that.
dan friesen
And I think that there were a few people who responded that I would be super against that.
And I don't think I am nearly as much.
Because I think that that is a document of a time in Alex's life.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And pretending that he's still the same person.
That would be stupid.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That would be irresponsible.
But looking back on this and recognizing that from this root grew this disgusting tree, like, that's not...
I mean, I think it would be censorious of me to be like, hey, don't spread that around.
Now, if you're trying to be like, ooh, isn't Alex hot?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I guess it's a waste of time.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But who cares?
It's him in the past.
Yes, he was attractive in the past.
I don't know.
It seems like, at worst, a waste of time.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Whereas the Bon Iver thing is actually dangerous.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I didn't actually have any kind of negative response to people sharing that.
jordan holmes
I think there is a...
The difference between them is that one humanizes and, what, kind of defangs, to a certain extent, Alex's present persona.
And the other one, almost as a contrast, tears Alex in the present down.
Somewhat.
If you go back and you watch that, you look at a young boy who is handsome and who is not...
Fucking calling for genocide.
dan friesen
And not yelling about how the devil walks among us and all Democrats are demon-possessed.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if you look at that video, I'm sure part of what you see is just like, fuck, what did he become?
dan friesen
Right, and I think that that's what a lot of the people who were commenting on it were talking about.
Like, is there brain damage?
What the fuck happened to this guy?
jordan holmes
Instead of listening to a Bon Iver clip and being like, oh, this is kind of fun, and this is, oh, look at him, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I think that also, The fact that you can see, like, okay, this is him back in, like, the 90s.
These are the sorts of issues that, like, really his bread and butter is silly.
And it's grounding, you know?
Like, it's like he's not some kind of guy.
Like, there is a trajectory that went from there to here.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, it's not, there's not, like, a mystical, magical thing that happened.
It's just...
jordan holmes
Look at what happens.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
He would be exactly as famous as he was in that clip if he was still talking about the fucking city council person's yard.
Right?
I mean, that's basically...
He started doing crazier shit.
jordan holmes
And he got more famous.
unidentified
Exactly.
jordan holmes
That's how it works.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex has some thoughts about this video going around.
And I immediately was like, when he started talking about it, I thought like...
I don't know if I'm going to enjoy this coverage of it, but then I did, because he's super defensive about how hot he used to be.
jordan holmes
Because he's hideous now?
dan friesen
Yes.
alex jones
There's a video that popped up last night that now has millions of views on Instagram and hundreds of thousands on Twitter.
People sent me, a bunch of people did.
And they're like, my God, Alex Jones in 1995.
Now, I was like 21 years old then.
I was not a teenager, as they say in the video.
But that is me, ladies and gentlemen.
And my teeth are a little bit longer, the front teeth, because I've grinded them off, grinding my teeth.
So yes, people say, my God, Alex Jones has made quite the transformation.
So I see some of the joke tweets out there.
But yeah, over the years, that's me at 180 pounds, and I ran six miles every other day and lifted weights for about two hours a day.
I could bench press...
400 pounds then, and a squat 600, and I was quite the specimen.
dan friesen
Quite the specimen.
That didn't sound that defensive.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It will be later.
alex jones
Oh.
jordan holmes
I'm grateful for not being that hot when I was young.
Like, it's the fall.
It's that he was too hot and now he's too hideous, you know?
Like, I'm fine.
I wasn't that good looking.
I'm gonna get worse, but it's like the fall isn't gonna be that bad.
dan friesen
And I don't really particularly care that much about his physical being.
I can critique in as much as like, yes.
I can see how he was conventionally attractive before and now...
jordan holmes
Conventionally unattractive.
dan friesen
And also seems to be in poor health.
I'm more concerned about his ideas.
And I honestly think that the idea that's being expressed in that video from his youth, although it is covering up some pretty fucked up beliefs that he just wasn't...
Probably as public with at the time.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
We know he was a bircher.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And had all kinds of anti-government ideas that were a little extreme.
But, like, the idea that's in that video is, hey, ticketing of overgrown lawns should be equally enforced.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Fine.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's great.
dan friesen
Fine.
jordan holmes
You did it.
dan friesen
Things that are being expressed now are ugly.
Immigrants aren't people, basically.
It's far more important how ugly his insides and his ideas are to me than any kind of whether or not you're hot.
But he seems to be very defensive about people saying he's not hot anymore.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there is a certain element of like...
He got the wrong picture of Dorian Gray, you know?
The picture looks gorgeous.
It's only gotten prettier as time goes on.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I used to get a lot of hate mail back when I was in college and I wrote for the paper.
I'd get people who were like...
Saying, like, you look fat, you piece of shit.
unidentified
Sure, sure, sure.
dan friesen
And I would always just laugh.
I was like, it's fun.
jordan holmes
Yeah, what are you going to do?
dan friesen
If I were Alex Jones, and I were listened to by heads of state.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
I was the number one man fighting against the devil in the world.
jordan holmes
Sure.
The Russian intelligence service broke into a, yeah.
dan friesen
And the time is running out.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I might not spend time on my show talking about a video of me and people saying I used to be hot.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but, you know...
dan friesen
I might leave that alone.
jordan holmes
When important stuff comes up, you've got to address it.
Even if it interrupts.
dan friesen
Yeah, and you know what?
The thing that I'm not factoring in is that sometimes you want to have fun.
And, like, it's not fun to talk about the border.
It's fun to talk about people making fun of Alex.
alex jones
I don't look like Orson Welles anymore at that...
unidentified
Wait.
alex jones
That's why I always said I had no problems with the ladies back...
Why talk about it?
I said I would have some fun in the last segment, but I'm already kind of doing it.
And see, that makes me be in a good mood, to just have some fun and show some tweets where people make fun of me, because I like stuff like that.
I don't want to talk about how there's...
I don't know.
Let's put the show, the live show headline up because I wrote it and it really is accurate.
You see, that's what I do.
I don't just go with what the rest of the media is saying.
Oh, there's 10,000 plus migrants smashed over the border.
No, our crew's been there up and down the Rio Grande River for miles in all directions.
It looks like an NFL football game let out.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's like, I don't listen to what other people are saying.
I make up my own numbers.
I estimate crazy shit on my own.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't need their help or facts.
dan friesen
And my conversation about this is going to be flagrantly offensive.
jordan holmes
No, there's nothing flagrantly offensive about that.
dan friesen
Are you sure?
alex jones
So we're bringing in all these wonderful third world people.
A lot of them aren't nice.
But that's not what the globalists want.
But a lot of them are thugs that have a chip on their shoulder.
I mean, look, you saw it at Bagram Air Base, where most of the first flights were like 99% men.
In these other cultures, it's not women and children first.
It's women and children what?
It's survival of the thuggish.
And then that men breed that are like that, and you get people that'll slit your throat for nothing and don't care about you.
Now, there's some nice folks that sometimes come out of these groups.
Yeah, but that's what's happening.
dan friesen
Holy shit.
Congratulations, Joe Rogan.
Hey, Rogan, come get your boy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that might be a little bit...
alex jones
Wow.
jordan holmes
Boy.
dan friesen
Survival of the thuggest.
jordan holmes
I don't know if I have ever heard...
A more black pot.
Make up a black kettle to call black.
dan friesen
This is disgusting.
I mean, there's just...
I don't really have much commentary on this outside of stuff we've said a hundred times on the show.
jordan holmes
It's just disgust.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, it cannot be said enough, though.
It cannot be said enough that this is the rhetoric that precedes a genocide.
It never doesn't.
There's no genocide that just, like, fucking shows up one day.
dan friesen
It doesn't always lead to that, but when those things happen, this is the rhetoric that you find preluding it.
jordan holmes
That's what I meant.
That's what I meant.
dan friesen
Yeah, in the same way that when Alex talks, like, a lot of his, like, ah, they're gonna pull false flags, all this.
You know, the terrorist edging kind of thing.
That doesn't always lead to some kind of violent outburst.
jordan holmes
It's not a McVeigh every time.
dan friesen
But it's the kind of thing that can.
And it's...
Yeah.
Whether or not, it's just unacceptable.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, I think that there are reasonable...
Differences of opinion people can have about immigration policy.
I think that you can.
I think that there's a line where your opinions might veer in too dangerous.
And I still think that there's conversations you can have on those fronts.
When you're talking like this about people from other countries and other cultures, that's not policy-based.
That's not a conversation.
This is just – this can't – there's nothing that you can do to engage with this other than to say this is disgusting.
This deserves condemnation.
And people who would sincerely present ideas like this have no place in public discourse.
unidentified
Yeah, I would very much like...
jordan holmes
The conversation between political parties and even ideologies to be like, should a progressive income tax be at like...
47% or should it be a graduated income tax that starts at 90% for your first million and then gradually decreases from there?
Or should it be...
That'd be a great conversation with different ideologies.
Not, we should kill them because they want to tax us slightly more than we're used to.
Yeah.
Yeah.
dan friesen
And the rest of the world are basically cavemen.
jordan holmes
We should kill them too!
alex jones
This is caveman stuff!
And there are cavemen that come out of every group.
But, you know, you had to look at Christian ideas and trying to get people to love their neighbors and build better societies.
And that's what's built our world was the Christian ethos.
And that's why the globalists who don't want that, they want depopulation.
They want to play God.
They want to merge with machines.
They want live essential technology.
They don't want to have to deal with chivalry and private property and the right to self-defense.
And women and children?
Children are for medical experiments and having sex with.
dan friesen
Yuck.
jordan holmes
Wow.
unidentified
Oof.
jordan holmes
He realizes that America is not that old, right?
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
And that all of our stuff came from somewhere else first.
So, like, some stuff we got from Asia.
Some stuff we got from Africa.
And some stuff we got from Europe.
dan friesen
Right, and I know that Jesus was big on private property.
jordan holmes
Loved it.
dan friesen
And the Second Amendment.
jordan holmes
It is easier to get into heaven for a rich person than it is to even fucking buy a camel.
You just walk into heaven if you're rich.
dan friesen
Look, bro, if you're rich, it's tough to get into heaven, but...
You should have every right to accumulate all your stuff.
jordan holmes
Hold on.
I mean, imagine you're going to heaven, right?
And you're in the waiting room, and you meet your imaginary friend, and he's like, I got some evil shit to tell about you.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
jordan holmes
And then you're like, ah, one second, and you give him a $100 bill, and he's like, well, you had a good day.
See, that's how you get into heaven if you're rich!
dan friesen
You bribe the snitch.
jordan holmes
You bribe the snitches!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's called Ecclesiastical Capture, I believe is what it's called.
dan friesen
I find all of this awful.
jordan holmes
I'm trying to make anything funny because I really want to light fires.
dan friesen
No, I mean, it's just...
Listening to this episode was kind of like an interesting experience on my end because we had two wacky episodes last week.
Everything's been so COVID that I keep being like, come on, anything else.
And then he does this, I'm like, not this.
jordan holmes
And then it's like, hey, quit!
Quit scaremongering about vaccines.
And then he's like, okay, well, I guess I'll go Goebbels.
dan friesen
Yeah, immigrants aren't people.
unidentified
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
Oh, come on, man!
How could you do that to me?
dan friesen
I wanted something fun and interesting.
jordan holmes
Give me demons or heaven.
dan friesen
Well, look, Alex might not be in the best state today.
That might be what's going on.
He got up early.
jordan holmes
He was feeling in a good mood, though.
People were talking about him on Twitter.
That makes him feel good.
dan friesen
His good mood does not last.
Because he got up really early this morning and his wife was all mad at him because he was yelling on the phone.
alex jones
Well, that'll happen.
I'm going to try to calm down.
I got mad again today.
Again, I'm not complaining.
Bald horses can't drag me away.
But I've been up since...
Let's not exaggerate.
I was saying 5.30 because that sounds more reasonable.
I've been up since like 3.27.
And I have been running around the house.
My wife got mad at me because at like 5 a.m.
I woke her up because I was yelling at people on the telephone.
And I mean...
I'm normal, though, you see, watching your country collapse, watching an invasion, watching a takeover, watching the U.N. say why they're bringing these people in to keep them on welfare, piss them off, and make them hate white people, and to know it's all part of the plan and have all these news articles where they're saying officially in campuses whites are bad, whites can't come to these classes, whites can't be in the gym, and it's whites teaching this because it's total divide and conquer.
And we're watching them destroy our culture, destroy our unity.
Destroy everything Martin Luther King Jr. talked about, and then they say they're the good guys.
unidentified
Wild shit!
alex jones
They should be totally repudiated and totally rejected.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So there's a war on whites, and that's why Alex was yelling into the phone in the morning and woke his wife up, and she's mad.
But he's normal.
He's normal.
This is a normal response you have when there's a war on whites.
unidentified
Yeah.
Anyway.
dan friesen
I think that Alex is, like, a big-time racist and a real, like, dangerous anti-immigrant type.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But I also think that this mood really does have to do with that video.
I think that it really does.
jordan holmes
I used to be fucking good-looking.
I used to be gorgeous.
What happened to me?
dan friesen
I think it might have struck a nerve.
alex jones
He don't appreciate what we had, and so we're losing it all right now.
So I'm sorry.
I'm not real happy about all that.
And so, yeah, I don't look like I used to.
I could look a lot better.
I've got a family that looks great at 67 years old.
But I took on all the stress.
I stood up and I stayed up with nothing but coffee probably two nights a week for the first four or five years I was on air.
I worked.
20 hours a day.
I hand edited all the films.
I went and had jobs on top of it.
I did the sales jobs at the radio stations and had all of it taken away from me.
I didn't care because I cared about the mission.
And so do I look like a war-hardened goblin?
Damn right I do and proud of it because I'm not trying to win pretty boy contest around here.
I'm here to take on the pain and take on the attacks and...
Dedicate myself to bringing down the New World Order because I will not spiritually and I will not genetically sign on to what Satan's doing.
So all you people like Brad Pitt and...
Another little globalist that sells tyranny over there.
I mean, there's so many of them.
Leonardo DiCaprio.
You just rub skin creams on your faces all day and try to stay young.
Because when you die, your soul and your energy is going to be sunken to the middle of a black hole with all the energy just like you.
Because like attracts like.
But as for me, I don't care about this body.
dan friesen
So there's a war on whites?
jordan holmes
Let me ask you a question.
For all of his...
Can't you just see how evil they look on TV?
Just evil.
They're ugly.
Their souls are hurtful.
dan friesen
The stelters of the world.
jordan holmes
Now, if you're pretty, then you're evil.
dan friesen
Because you're rubbing skin cream on yourself all day.
unidentified
Right, right.
dan friesen
You're not dedicating yourself to the fight against the New World Order.
jordan holmes
He's good because he's a battle-hardened goblin.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
I am starting to think that he might be a bit of a hypocrite.
dan friesen
I think he's an idiot.
I also do love, though, the idea that he's like, I took on all the stress.
I took on the pain of the world, and that's why I look like a mess.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was definitely him talking to him, not me.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
It's totally fine.
You're a hero.
jordan holmes
Exactly, yeah.
You do not need to do voices.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Look, I'm not in great shape.
And one of the reasons is because I don't try as hard as I should.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I'll be straight up about that.
jordan holmes
I think it's probably because of the fight.
No.
No, I'm going to have to go with it's the fight.
dan friesen
I'm busy.
jordan holmes
You care more about the mission?
dan friesen
No.
I'm busy, but I also choose things like unhealthy food.
Sure.
And I could exercise or I could watch another episode of Survivor.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And sometimes I choose the Survivor.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And, look, I'm a hero.
Nonsense.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
Anyway, look, the globalists, they have a plan.
jordan holmes
What are they up to?
dan friesen
Look, they want to make their cells immortal.
alex jones
All right, I'm going to state something that I say quite a bit in different ways, but I just want to be completely clear about.
I'm trying to think of the best way to say this, because I can sit here and cover all this news all day, but you understand that the big corporations of the world...
Believe that they're going to develop super technologies so that the cells will probably never die and they're going to be able to live forever.
But they're worried that an overpopulated planet will hurt the planet and hurt their nest to live forever on.
And they go on in their own papers, their own statements.
I mean, I saw more of them on TV the other day admitting this.
That they can be killed by wars, though.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
This feels like Highlander.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Like, you know, we're immortal, but we can be killed by violence.
jordan holmes
Right.
Right.
Uh-huh.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Yeah, so the globalists want to create their cells to be immortal, but there's too many people, so if they're immortal, they don't want everyone getting in the way of their fun.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Because you know what?
I think that these immortal people, you know what they would really love to do is spend their time in an agrarian existence.
Growing their own food.
You know, not having people, a society around where there's delegations of labor in places where we can all do different things and not have to deal with our basic necessities all the time.
jordan holmes
This reminds me of...
dan friesen
If there's like a couple thousand globalists, how are they going to have a sanitation system?
Like, what are they going to do?
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, in Asimov's The Robots of Dawn trilogy...
dan friesen
Oh, I forgot about the robots.
jordan holmes
They could...
I believe what happened is they went off to another planet, the immortal rich people, and they had giant massive estates covered with nothing but robots that took care of everything for them, and they never saw another human being in real life.
They always video chatted, essentially.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Can I be honest?
jordan holmes
The Earthman came and he was like, this is terrible.
And then they were like, yeah, I think you might be right.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's dystopian.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is a nightmare.
This is awful.
dan friesen
Yeah, the point of those novels like that are generally like, oh no.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is what happens when rich people have ideas.
dan friesen
Yeah, like there's like technology is a great thing and it can be used in a lot of good ways, but left...
To go entirely in one direction, it's a husky.
Anyway, I believe that Alex has no business speaking on public issues.
He is a toxic, awful shithead.
jordan holmes
Agreed.
dan friesen
Now, the globalists, they might have thought differently at various points in Alex's career.
This is so stupid.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Their argument is, if you can't talk to them at their level about this...
Then you don't deserve to live.
And they've told me that.
They've said, Alex, you know about all this because you're a smart guy.
You have a lot of great ideas.
If you join us, you'll be able to bring your perspective to the table and we will listen.
But if you just oppose what we're doing, when you're going to grow up and find out it's the right thing, that the public is profane, they're evil, they'll tear you apart, they don't want to be empowered, and you'll want to join us later.
dan friesen
He does say that a bit now, like everyone probably just deserves to die.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he does say that quite a bit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Now, I want to say one thing.
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
I don't know if I believe that the devil was trying to enlist Alex when he was a little kid, and then throughout his entire life, and then simultaneously the globalists have been trying to enlist him.
Like, it seems like maybe that's in his head.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's either that or there's a coordinated full court press for the past 30 years to get Alex Jones.
dan friesen
From the time before he ever had political inclinations.
It was like a predestination thing.
When he was a child, he had a magical ability that the devil knew would be a problem for him later.
jordan holmes
He's a little bit psychic.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think one possibility is making all this up.
jordan holmes
Could be.
dan friesen
Another one is he's nuts.
unidentified
Could be.
dan friesen
And a third is, I mean, Alex is the linchpin upon which all time and history relies.
Like, he is...
As goes Alex, so goes history.
jordan holmes
It does feel like that is his central thesis.
unidentified
Yes!
dan friesen
Yeah.
I can't imagine a more important person in the world if the things he's saying are true.
The devil tried to recruit him, and then his enemies have tried to recruit him.
His enemies, who, by the way, control all of the world's governments and all of the monetary systems and everything, they've tried to recruit him, and when they were trying to I was going to say, did he say that the globalists initially wanted him to moderate their globalist plans with his perspective?
Or at least, you know, share in his ideas.
It kind of makes me question whether or not the globalists have had plans for a long time.
jordan holmes
It does seem like if they were still looking for input from a 12-year-old Bircher, their plans were not good.
dan friesen
Might have been flexible.
So fucking stupid.
Yeah, that's bad.
jordan holmes
That's bad.
dan friesen
Again, congratulations, Rogan.
You're hanging out with a fucking xenophobic racist who thinks he's the most important person in the world.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Congrats.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, that's great.
dan friesen
Good work.
So Alex, you know, his show is the way it is because of choices that have been made over the course of the last couple decades.
You know, like, he has fine-tuned his show in ways that, like, this works for me.
This is the way we do things.
But you know what?
It kind of sucks.
And Alex is like, why does this show have to be the way it is?
jordan holmes
That's a good question.
alex jones
So I feel empowered.
I feel enraged at The Globalist.
And when I'm not on air, I feel very, very calm and focused, but once I get on air, I just get angry.
And I really want to strive to start doing a show that's commercial-free, music-free, very small crew.
I'll still have this great crew, because it's hectic, it's crazy, it's the way this show evolved for radio and TV, and I like it, but it's frenetic, and it's frustrating, and it's not really who I am.
I'm not mad at these people, but that's only one aspect.
I want to talk about the good in the world and the beauty in the world and the good part of humanity and why we shouldn't be destroyed.
dan friesen
Hey, I'm Alex Jones, and today on the show we're going to talk about squirrels.
God, they are amazing.
jordan holmes
I'm Alex Jones, and I want to talk to you about the line work that you can see Van Gogh did in Starry Night and how it evokes emotion beyond all reason.
dan friesen
Hey, I'm Alex Jones.
I'm here to tell you about why humanity should not be destroyed.
What a dumb dick.
jordan holmes
I'm Alex Jones and I'm here to advocate for love.
dan friesen
I really do enjoy the way he's like...
Alright, the show evolved the way it did, but this isn't me!
Yes, it is!
unidentified
This isn't me!
This isn't me!
jordan holmes
This absolutely, this show is definitely not an expression of my rapidly deteriorating mind.
dan friesen
It's frenetic and fast, and that's my way of saying I never really cover anything.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
I get mad at the crew, but that's not all of me.
Sometimes I also get mad at the human race.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
The globalists.
dan friesen
My children upset me sometimes.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Look, the devil's coming.
unidentified
Oh, well.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
There are thousands of fake ideologies and thousands of fake gurus and thousands of false schools that the system doesn't block and the system doesn't care about.
Because it gives you part of the truth and part of lie and some weird little thing you do and it's going to make it all okay.
No.
There is a scientific global elite trying to take control of human development.
They've almost got control.
They want to kill everybody because they want to merge the machines and become God.
That's the dominant force on the planet.
That's what we're opposing.
That's what's happening.
And that's what's coming after all of us.
And I have no desire to join with it.
In fact, I have a revulsion and a repulsion of being part of it.
And if you don't have a revulsion of these people, you are not in God's orbit and you've got a serious problem.
dan friesen
You've got a serious problem coming because the devil in the form of these people who want to become robots.
jordan holmes
Yeah, for a guy who wants schools to teach that black people came to America because they were looking for jobs in a free market system, I don't know how much I want him telling me what...
Schools are telling the truth.
dan friesen
No.
No, but I do think that he does have a reasonable point at the beginning there with, like, there are a lot of things that should be banned from YouTube that are.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
And it is a little strange that there's, you know, the things that get the attention that are necessary for them to take action.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And the things that don't, you know?
Like, I can see all kinds of, like...
Space cults.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Probably being as dangerous to somebody.
jordan holmes
I mean, when you look at some of the investigative reporting on Facebook and how they not just kowtow to conservatives, but actively, like, help them out, you're like, you're not wrong.
You're not wrong.
Corporations are evil.
dan friesen
Well, and, you know, there's these ideologies that aren't banned.
Right.
And it's like, yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
All right.
I mean, I guess the answer would be even...
More social media crackdowns?
Because I don't think the answer is just let anyone say whatever they want.
jordan holmes
Doesn't seem like he does either.
dan friesen
Unless YouTube decides that that's exactly what they want their platform to be, and then I think that could lead to some problems for them.
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
But, I don't know, the devil.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's coming.
He's usually coming.
dan friesen
And so Alex knows this because he's connected to God.
And he's also connected to the devil.
Okay.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we've heard him say that he has a weird position living in between both worlds.
dan friesen
And then shit goes real bad.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
alex jones
And I'm connected to God.
And I'm connected to Satan as well.
And I can see these guys.
I've got the sunglasses on.
And I want you to put the sunglasses on.
And then we're not going to be fighting over what color we are and the rest of it.
And someone will say, oh, then let the Haitians in.
The Haitians are a weapon that the globalists have controlled and dominated and enslaved as slaves for hundreds and hundreds of years, sold by slavers to us.
And some of them are great people, some of them are terribly evil people, just like everybody else.
But the point is, they're coming into the globalist hands to be controlled and used as a political weapon.
I'm all for water.
I need to drink it to live.
I love beautiful lakes and waterfalls, and I love to water ski, and I love to do all that stuff.
I love to ride around on a jet ski, but I don't want to be held underwater at 20 feet for five minutes until I die.
And so the Haitians are just like water.
Dirty, corrupted water being brought to our dirty, corrupted country to bring us down with their satanic energy.
dan friesen
Jesus Christ.
jordan holmes
So, Haitians don't care about their children or women.
dan friesen
And many cultures are like that.
jordan holmes
Are thugs.
dan friesen
It's the survival of the thuggist.
jordan holmes
And then, not just that, but they are also a tool and a weapon.
dan friesen
That's pretty standard white nationalist ideology, though, too.
That the other populations from, like, developing countries are being used as a weapon by the globalists.
And something Alex says quite a bit, I just don't like the idea, like, the Haitians are like water.
They're dirty, corrupted water.
alex jones
Ugh.
dan friesen
God, what the fuck is wrong with you?
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's really, really, really disgusting.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So these immigrants are being brought in because that'll take down America.
And then once America's gone, there'll be nothing to fight the Antichrist.
Yeah, that's right.
This is where this is going.
alex jones
But they're being brought here as a political weapon just like every other group is because once the country goes down, there'll be no other example of America and the whole world's going to go down and fall to Antichrist control.
And we know that's foretold to happen, but we're going to put on a hell of a fight before it.
Why?
unidentified
Antichrist only has a short period to rule.
jordan holmes
So you're fighting against him?
unidentified
You see?
alex jones
Satan taking over is only halftime, folks.
It's only the halftime.
This alien force is going to win at halftime but lose in the fourth quarter.
dan friesen
Okay.
So, I don't know.
I think it's a little bit funny that, like, I don't know, skeptics and, you know, those sorts of communities are, you know...
Pretty into being like, hey, what about I?
He's going to be right about a bunch of stuff.
Yeah, he believes that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
You know, I think it's weird.
And then it made perfect sense.
Because for people who prophesy shit all the time, prophecies coming true aren't important.
Because the only thing that could possibly validate your religion...
Is if all of your prophecies come true.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's it.
And the book of Revelations is done.
You can't make more book of Revelations.
So if the book of Revelations doesn't happen as it's written, then your religion is a lie.
It's fake.
dan friesen
Or it requires reinterpretation.
jordan holmes
I mean, sure.
Sure.
But they're basing their...
He's basing his Bible on that it's the literal...
Truth of God.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Written by God himself.
dan friesen
Yes, for him it's a problem.
jordan holmes
So to fight against what happens in the book of Revelations is to blaspheme against God himself and say that you have power over him.
dan friesen
Well, see, I thought about that, but then I think that another way to look at it is that Alex has doomed himself to a losing fight and that he has cast himself in the role of the people who fight against the Antichrist.
That are destined to lose at halftime.
And that's the position he's putting himself in.
Because it helps gain some kind of...
I think it allows him to say these kinds of things that he says about immigrants and give these positions and be such a toxic, awful, dangerous persona and still...
Pretend that he's a good person.
Like, somehow, like, there's integrity to what I'm doing because I'm fighting against the Antichrist.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
In this, like, I'm going down with the ship or whatever.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
As opposed to, like, I'm just trying to get people hurt.
unidentified
Yay.
dan friesen
It's a better way to look at it if you want to sleep.
jordan holmes
I suppose.
Yeah, if you want to sleep, that is a good way to recontextualize your monstrous actions.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Alex said he was going to get back to talking about that video of him from when he was younger because that's fun.
jordan holmes
It is fun.
dan friesen
But it turns out there's no time for fun, Mr. Jones.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
alex jones
You know, I said I'd get to the fun Alex Jones thing, but we just won't get to that.
Because, you know, fun, we've had enough fun, haven't we?
I'm going to make some jokes, too.
Maybe I'll do it next hour.
I have a medical doctor coming on who was in the hospital and watched him basically killing people.
And he was in there with a marathon runner who they wouldn't give medication to.
And when he demanded they give him medication because he was a medical doctor, they SWAT teamed him even though he was happy to leave the hospital.
And tied him up and put him in a restraining chair for four hours and then threw him out of the hospital.
And we said, hey, let us know what happens.
Well, they wouldn't give the guy any aid until he got sicker.
And then, of course, you know what they do?
They intubate you and you die.
So that fellow died a little while after he was in the hospital next to him, in the bed next to him.
And he was a long-term medical doctor.
He's retired.
And he was telling them what the guy needed, you know, antibiotics.
He's got pneumonia.
You can hear it.
And they just said no.
dan friesen
Yeah, so there's no time for fun because he's got to interview this guy who was in a hospital next to a guy and then got SWAT teamed.
I don't know.
That's a pretty confusing sort of...
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would like a more concrete narrative of events.
dan friesen
I'll get to it once the guy comes on the show.
But yeah, that was a little bit...
I don't even think that the guest, dude, this guy would back up this story.
I think that's a little bit sensationalized.
But there is still some time for fun.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
This particular clip has 430,000 views as of last night, and it says, Teenage content creator Alex Jones.
They're going to say, there's an underlying story here.
Did he get a head injury at some point after this?
Because I was so nice and friendly and sweet.
And there's tens of thousands of tweets of women saying, man, he seems like a really nice guy, not the mean guy he is now.
Well, you see, I already knew about all this stuff and I was fighting it, but then I lived it and went through 27, 28 years of it.
And so, yeah, it took a toll on me caring about myself and my family and everybody else.
dan friesen
I care too much.
That's why I'm not this...
Sensible-seeming hot young man anymore.
jordan holmes
Totally.
There's no way I could change my eating habits.
dan friesen
No, but that's what I think is really interesting, is that there's a physical defensiveness that Alex has about how people are saying he used to be hot.
And then there's also a defensiveness about...
He seemed like a normal person.
Yeah.
You have lost it both physically and emotionally and intellectually.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You are essentially a completely different person.
jordan holmes
In the Madden stat levels, they've all gone down universally.
It's like the difference between Madden-Drew Brees in 2001 and Madden-Drew Brees in 2014.
There's a big difference there.
dan friesen
Well, there's one stat category that Alex is still really high in, and that is Bullhorn Technique.
jordan holmes
That's true.
He's still got it.
He does still got it.
dan friesen
One thing that he's getting better at, it turns out, is releasing films.
Because you know it's been a long time.
jordan holmes
I'm confused as to how he's gotten better about that.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it's been like nine years since he did it.
jordan holmes
Well, that is better.
dan friesen
He's getting back on the horse.
unidentified
Shit.
alex jones
Need to fight back against the new lockdowns.
That's why we've made a new film, the first in a five-part series.
It's a full film called COVID Land with Robert Kennedy Jr., Dr. Sherry Tenpenny, myself, and everybody else star-studded researchers and patriots.
Very, very proud of this film.
Our first produced film in nine years.
dan friesen
Because I fired Millie.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because of Shadowgate.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep.
I don't got any in-house production staff anymore, so gotta go somewhere else.
dan friesen
People keep coming up with ideas and I fire them.
jordan holmes
The gate of gates killed me.
dan friesen
So the bat signal has gone up.
I may have to check in on this COVID lamb documentary.
jordan holmes
I suppose we'll have to get there.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
So, this doctor comes on, and he's a guy named Stephen Gufanti.
His deal is that he was in the hospital being treated for COVID, and he decided he would go ahead and play doctor for the person playing...
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
He is a retired doctor, but this is still inappropriate.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, he's way up on current medical technology, I'm sure.
dan friesen
Gufanti looked over the guy's records.
He got permission from the guy in the hospital, so it's not like a total violation.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But he decided that the doctors missed a very simple...
I couldn't listen to him when he brought it up.
The next details are a little bit hazy because it's just Gafanti's telling of the story, because obviously the hospital can't comment on the treatment given to a third person without their consent.
So Gufanti claims that he tried to be named this other patient's advocate, but the nurses wouldn't call the doctor.
So Gufanti decided he was going to check himself out against medical advice.
At that point, allegedly, he was restrained for a while, and then he was discharged from the hospital against medical advice.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that there's some details missing from this story.
I don't know what they are, but there's something that doesn't match up.
unidentified
Anyway...
jordan holmes
I'll tell you one thing that I know for a fact is in that story and left out.
That guy was an asshole to a bunch of people.
dan friesen
Belligerence, I would assume.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
Or I think that there is a possible liability that the hospital could take on if this guy is acting as a doctor inappropriately.
jordan holmes
You can't do that.
dan friesen
Just because this guy says, like, I am his medical advocate or whatever doesn't mean that there isn't still a lawsuit possible.
I don't know exactly, but there's something missing.
I don't really care about what it is.
Right.
Because this guy, Gafonte, comes on Alex's show, and he's talking about this other patient that was there in the hospital with him, and this guy has died, and now there's a funeral that's going to happen.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Alex gets really excited, kind of, about this story in a way that's just disgusting.
alex jones
And by the way, did you talk to the family?
Is that how you got photos of the man?
And would you like to say his name or do they want that to humanize him?
unidentified
His name is Keith and his funeral is next Saturday.
And there's a GoFundMe page for his funeral.
The kids are looking at our orphans now.
alex jones
Well, I didn't know that, so I'm glad you're back on.
Can you, Doc, look that up or let us know?
And while I'd like to get his children on, guys, the producers, can we call and get his children on?
Their mother died of cancer.
You know, it was in the vaccine, folks.
The cancer viruses, the SV40, the rest of it.
And then now dad's dead.
Wow, what a nightmare situation.
Well, I'm glad, Doc, you're telling us about that.
dan friesen
Wow, Alex has just decided that this woman, who he knows nothing about, had a cancer and it must have been caused by vaccines.
Wow, what a way to turn this tragedy into something profitable in your anti-vax grift, you fuck.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
If this doctor is offended by missing a pneumonia diagnosis, he should be really offended by that.
But he's not.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
Because he's...
jordan holmes
Because he's a shithead.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And so one of the things that he did was he took a picture of this guy in the hospital and posted it on Facebook.
Presumably, he got permission from the guy, Keith, to post this picture on Facebook.
But guess what?
The family is not thrilled about this.
jordan holmes
Not surprising.
unidentified
Have you had a chance to talk to the family?
Yes.
They were not happy with me.
Posting his hospital garb on Facebook.
But I'm afraid it was my Facebook post that got him antibiotics and, you know, a chance.
alex jones
You know, that's how young people are, and I'm sure they're just emotional because at first they don't want the attention, but they got more attention.
You know, you knew him when he was talking and begging for help right before they intimidated him.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
Yeah, you knew him better than his kids.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Wow.
I mean, I can't imagine, like, if, because here's the story that you could tell, I guess, is either the patient says, no, no, no, current doctors, listen to this 80-year-old man.
unidentified
Eh, maybe like 70. And then give me what he says.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And then there's no way you wouldn't sue the hospital later and be like, how fucking dare you take the advice of this crazy person?
Right?
But then to do that to him is insane.
dan friesen
I don't understand how...
jordan holmes
Insane.
dan friesen
I don't understand how this guy who's here on Alex's show, this Gafanti, can look in the mirror and...
Recognize that the family of this person, that he, like, Gafonte isn't somebody who's relevant at all.
The only reason that he is even on Alex's show is because he was in the hospital next to this guy.
jordan holmes
He happened to be fucking in an episode of Scrubs.
dan friesen
The other guy is essentially what Gafonte is riding to attention on.
And the family does not appreciate that.
Just appearing on the show and discussing this stuff is legitimately, you can make a pretty safe assumption against the wishes of the family.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's an insult.
dan friesen
Yes, it's degrading.
jordan holmes
And to then have Alex be like, oh yeah, young people don't want attention until...
dan friesen
They're emotional.
jordan holmes
I mean...
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
So he keeps mentioning that they have a GoFundMe for the funeral.
And Alex wants them to plug it.
And I'm very glad, actually, that he doesn't.
I don't think he actually knows what it is.
So it's not like a choice.
But that would have doxed these people.
unidentified
Totally.
jordan holmes
No, it would have been fucked up.
dan friesen
I'm glad that they didn't.
Mostly because it seems pretty clear that the family does not like this guy at all.
alex jones
But I'm sure the family appreciates you now trying to save their father.
unidentified
Yeah, never know.
Remember, doctors are the bringers of bad news.
So I don't know.
I'll find out if they appreciate me or not at the funeral.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no, no.
unidentified
I don't teach that much to go to his funeral.
And, you know, I mean...
alex jones
Hey, I saved a lady once that was choking.
dan friesen
Great.
Look, if you're not sure the family is going to be pissed off at you or not, don't go to the fucking funeral, you pile of shit.
What is wrong with you?
jordan holmes
I will tell you what I would do if I saw him show up at that funeral.
Call a SWAT team and tie him to a fucking chair for four hours.
dan friesen
I don't understand.
unidentified
I don't get it.
dan friesen
How can you live like this?
jordan holmes
What a fucking psycho.
That's just that level of, like, maybe you don't have any empathy.
Like, that's just insane.
That's just so fucking disrespectful.
It's...
I mean, just exploitative.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And all in your own service to make you feel like you were important.
And a hero.
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Yeah, the story of this went from boring, like, okay, maybe this guy had a misdiagnosis of the person next to him in the hospital and I don't care, to like, wow, it's really clear, even from the way you are talking, that this family is not...
Yep.
jordan holmes
I mean, God.
dan friesen
It's treating this guy like a thing.
jordan holmes
God, I would be furious if he went on local access news, let alone to go on fucking Infowars.
dan friesen
Talking about, like, your loved one.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's unthinkable.
I hope they sue him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Anyway, we have one last clip, and it's Alex discussing.
So we've heard him talk a bit about, like, you know, there's people getting COVID around him.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But we haven't really heard him talk about some specifics.
And it turns out his parents, especially his dad, may have had a really severe case.
jordan holmes
That's not surprising.
alex jones
My father, again, and mother got sick with COVID like five weeks ago.
And I've told this story.
It's incredible.
My parents are tough.
They're in pretty good shape.
My mom used to be a triathlete.
She still swims probably like five, six, seven miles a week.
unidentified
Cool.
alex jones
My dad does as well.
He didn't swim that far.
But they didn't tell me they were sick.
So I hear they're sick and I go, well, this is serious.
I go over there and my dad is laying there not knowing who he is, naked in his bed.
And he's never like that.
And he looks like he's 90 years old.
He's 71. And he looks blue and he had like 82 oxygen.
So I called Dr. Bartlett.
He sends over medical doctors.
He knows the house.
They're listeners, great people.
That's one of the French benefits of being Alex Jones.
They're just like, they're in like an hour.
dan friesen
Being rich.
alex jones
They prescribe the stuff.
They say, go get it.
They go, got to use a small pharmacy.
I called a small one.
unidentified
They had it.
alex jones
Other places won't give it to you.
Got the read-esadine.
Got the ivermectin.
Got the pill steroids, they said.
And then they said, get him up.
Make him do this and that.
Make him breathe it.
And I was literally having to, like, not slap him, but, like, pinch him and say, breathe this, breathe this.
He's like, I'm fine.
I'm going back to sleep.
My mom was doing the same thing.
And he lost, like, 20-something pounds.
And he's not fat.
Like I am.
And by the next morning, again, they delivered a bunch of lawn chairs that he hadn't put together because his other ones fell apart.
And he was there putting them together.
Now his mind had a fog for a week or so and it still hadn't come back completely.
But as for his body and his oxygen, two days later it was back at 97%.
And that was the ivermectin.
That was the steroids.
And we know.
dan friesen
I don't believe that.
I don't believe that at all.
For a number of reasons.
One of them is that Alex has always said that these things are like, they're miracle cures.
But you got to give it to people early.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex's dad was deep into a sickness.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
That is not early in.
It's not like the, even based on the conspiracies and the bullshit that Alex spreads.
At that point, ivermectin should not have been helpful to him.
Second, I don't know how much of this is real.
I don't know how much of this is true and how much of it is a story Alex is telling.
But if there is truth to this, I don't see it being impossible that Alex got his dad sick.
jordan holmes
Yeah, totally.
dan friesen
And maybe gave him something that could be permanent.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
This brain fog that wasn't there.
jordan holmes
Long COVID is not a fake thing.
dan friesen
Well, you know, to whatever extent it is, yes, absolutely.
But just based on what Alex is reporting, his dad had a brain fog that has not gone away now five weeks later.
This could be something that he got through exposure from Alex, not taking the virus seriously, and could be something that lasts the rest of his life.
And even if it's not...
It's deeply traumatic to lose 20 pounds if you're 71 and end up not knowing your name.
Presumably a fever so high you don't know where you are.
unidentified
This is just sick shit.
jordan holmes
I mean, and also one thing.
How can COVID be a bioweapon if everybody you know fucking got it and you're fine, I guess, now?
dan friesen
Well, we assume.
I mean, Alex didn't tell these stories about his family being sick, him being sick multiple times, everyone at the office being sick.
He didn't tell those stories for a very long time.
There's a real decent chance that there are friends of friends or other people who you could trace a case back who are dead, and we just don't know it.
He doesn't know it, or if he does, he's not going to talk about it.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
He wouldn't have talked about this before when he was in a different stage of the COVID grift.
Like, it's just...
I find this episode to be like...
I mean, look.
I declared an episode recently unacceptable.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
And I deem this one unacceptable.
jordan holmes
It's not wrong.
dan friesen
This is not fit for human consumption.
jordan holmes
It really isn't.
It's really, really, really, really fucked up.
I don't know how many different ways you can be...
I mean, astonishingly disgusting.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, he and his ex-Blackwater buddy dehumanize the shit out of immigrants in ways that are reminiscent of deeply, deeply troubling times.
He gets really mad and defensive about how he used to be hot and not insane.
He...
Spins weird yarns about how the devil and the globalists have been trying to enlist him.
And then he interviews a guy who's using the memory of someone he was in the hospital with to get attention.
And this is just...
Fuck all of you.
jordan holmes
I mean, this is a real fucking villain's row of just non-stop shittiness.
dan friesen
Yeah, there are times when doing this show is really fun and you learn about stuff.
And then there's times where I'm mad that we do this.
This episode is one that's like, I don't think that I like that this is my job.
jordan holmes
Yeah, sometimes it's interesting and sometimes it's just staring into the gaping maw of the depths of human depravity and disgust.
You know, just like...
How?
How can you do this?
dan friesen
No argumentation is going to convince Alex or ex-Blackwater guy that people from other cultures love their children.
jordan holmes
Or just people.
dan friesen
Yeah.
No response that we have can possibly penetrate that kind of thinking.
And it's depressing that people would...
Either willingly or unwittingly give credence and credibility to someone whose job it is to spread bullshit like this.
And it's, I mean, it's where we are.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is one of those things where you have to step back from them.
Because you realize that these people are fucking disgusting and it's too late to change their mind or anything.
What needs to be addressed is how many famous people, public people, are attaching themselves to this, who are...
I mean, I would hope at least a little more fungible in let's kill all non-white peoples.
dan friesen
You would hope that their support is based on a lack of awareness of the things that Alex actually talks about.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
As opposed to them actually being on board with this horrible, vile bullshit.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's either that or just be like, hey, Joe Rogan is an out-and-out Nazi.
The end.
dan friesen
Hey, now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, well.
dan friesen
Well, anyway, we'll be back.
Hopefully for an acceptable episode.
unidentified
Let's hope.
Yeah.
dan friesen
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed Jordan.
dan friesen
Yeah, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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