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Sept. 13, 2021 - Knowledge Fight
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#595: Boulder Missiles and Gettysburg Nukes

What's wackier than a Wacky Wednesday? Obviously a Wacky Wednesday on a Monday. Today, Dan and Jordan check in on Camelot to learn a bit about JFK Jr, the various people portraying Joe Biden, and Deep State negotiations.

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dan friesen
27:49
j
jordan holmes
18:54
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kerry cassidy
20:39
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alex jones
00:05
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steve quayle
00:02
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unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.
Knowledgefight.com.
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge Fight.
Dan and George.
Knowledge fight.
I need money.
Andy and Kansas.
alex jones
Andy and Kansas.
unidentified
Stop it.
alex jones
Andy and Kansas.
jordan holmes
Andy in Kansas.
Andy?
unidentified
It's time to pray.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
unidentified
Thanks for holding us.
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your world.
unidentified
Knowledge Fight.
KnowledgeFight.com.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
unidentified
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Dan.
Yep.
jordan holmes
Quick question.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What's your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot today is a future bright spot, but I know it's going to be bright.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And that is a couple people have brought to my attention that La Croix now has a plum flavor.
unidentified
Oh!
dan friesen
I am plumped to try it.
jordan holmes
You are plumped to try it.
dan friesen
I'm pumped to try it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I know that the polar plum situation, the flavor was just so good.
Caught me off guard.
And so now I'm very excited to give this a whirl.
But I have not seen it in stores, I don't think.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
dan friesen
But I've heard rumor of it.
jordan holmes
I've heard tell in the Badlands of this new plum LaCroix.
dan friesen
Yep, so there's going to be another year of the seltzer.
jordan holmes
No, there's not.
The year of one seltzer.
dan friesen
I will try the plum one.
jordan holmes
I'll drink one seltzer 500 times.
dan friesen
I might.
If it's good, I might stock up.
jordan holmes
Why not?
dan friesen
Yeah.
I do like plum flavor.
jordan holmes
Call people.
dan friesen
It's good stuff.
Anyway, what about you?
jordan holmes
My Bright Spot, Dan, is today is the final of the United States Open.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Tennis, communications, and development.
And the final is between Novak Djokovic and Medvedev.
And if Djokovic wins, which he almost certainly will, he will have 21 Grand Slam majors.
He will have completed the first calendar Grand Slam since, like, 1960s, Jimmy Connors and stuff.
And he will have cemented himself as the greatest tennis player of all time.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I know a guy who might throw his racket at him.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
John McEnroe?
unidentified
Yep, that's the guy.
dan friesen
I don't have many tennis references.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, how about Sampras?
You got that one?
dan friesen
What would I know about him?
jordan holmes
Hairy.
He's a very hairy man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Andre Agassi.
jordan holmes
Bald.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Even when he had hair, he glued a wig on his head.
Did you know that?
dan friesen
I didn't know that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's an interesting tennis fact about Andre Agassi.
dan friesen
Welcome back to Interesting Tennis Facts About Andre Agassi, our new spinoff podcast.
jordan holmes
I'll take it.
dan friesen
Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.
And what we're doing today is...
I felt like sometimes you have to go off the beaten path.
And sometimes we just need something else in our lives than Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Regeneration.
dan friesen
I worry that we talk too much about him, honestly.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Why?
What makes you think that?
dan friesen
Sometimes it's difficult to make the same point over and over again.
So here's an out-of-context drop from what we're going to be talking about today.
kerry cassidy
Civilizations both inside the planet and off the planet.
Often conduct wars by throwing even neutron stars at each other.
Of course!
And so that they throw planetary, planetoids, rocks, meteors, all of this.
And this is indeed, in part, how Atlantis was sung.
dan friesen
Fascinating.
Fascinating.
This is great.
jordan holmes
Somebody threw a neutron star at Earth and sunk Atlantis.
dan friesen
That was part of it.
unidentified
That was the gist I got.
dan friesen
I like that there was something else.
jordan holmes
Well, the other part of it was the stock market crash.
dan friesen
That's gotta be.
jordan holmes
That was the other part, actually.
dan friesen
So, for the longest time, people have been requesting that we get back to taking some wacky Wednesday breaks.
unidentified
So happy.
dan friesen
Can't wait till Wednesday.
Can't.
We've got to do it.
We're both in that kind of mood where this is very much necessary.
Yes.
And here's the great news.
There's another YouTube clone type website.
Where Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot, a.k.a.
Sweary Carrie, is posting all of her interviews.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out of here!
dan friesen
So they're not behind a paywall.
jordan holmes
Oh, yes!
dan friesen
Things have been resolved.
jordan holmes
This is good news.
dan friesen
It is good news.
jordan holmes
This is good news.
dan friesen
And I kind of feel like the time that we've had away can make us kind of forget that she's maybe a bit anti-Semitic.
unidentified
We can just have fun with it again.
jordan holmes
You know, it's fun because it's kind of just been put in a safe little box for me where it's like, if I need to remember that she's an incredible anti-Semite, I'll be there.
Yeah, I got that.
dan friesen
I think public demand has insisted that we incorporate in some Wacky Wednesdays.
And as I've discovered from trying to find other sources, there's just nobody else.
jordan holmes
There's nobody like her.
dan friesen
You know, nobody does it better.
To quote Warren G. and Nate Dogg.
unidentified
I believe we will be mounting up.
dan friesen
Regulating.
unidentified
No, no.
dan friesen
We're anti-regulation.
jordan holmes
We are anti-regulation here.
dan friesen
So before we get to today's episode, which is an update about the state of the world from September 9th that Kerry put out.
I think it's very important.
jordan holmes
This September 9th?
dan friesen
Yes.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
A couple days back.
I think if there's one thing that's important that Alex has stressed to me, it's that diversity of opinion is something that...
It should be cherished.
unidentified
That's true.
dan friesen
And that's why we need to bring in other voices to find out what's going on with the political sphere, what's going on.
Maybe not about neutron stars being used as weapons, but there's plenty of other things to cover.
jordan holmes
Does she know how heavy neutron stars are?
dan friesen
Yeah, but do you understand the technology that the raptors have?
jordan holmes
I know, but they literally create a sinkhole in space-time.
dan friesen
That's what happened with Atlantis.
jordan holmes
Imagine trying to throw that.
dan friesen
Part of it.
jordan holmes
It's part of what happens.
dan friesen
But first, before we get into this, let's take a little moment to say hello to some wonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a great idea.
dan friesen
So first, don't trust the trees with big limbs.
They're very shady.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
unidentified
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, the Sea Flame.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
unidentified
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, the Sea Flame.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Speckled Jim.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
unidentified
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Why, thank you, Speckled Jim.
dan friesen
And Sega Dream Cat.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
unidentified
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Sega Dream Cat.
dan friesen
And my cat started listening to InFours and now won't stop buying male vitality pills.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
unidentified
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
That's going to make Rob Dew's wife real sore.
dan friesen
Or the cat's wife.
Yes, the cat's wife, of course.
So, Jordan, 9-9.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Not just Herman Cain's tax plan.
Also, the day of Cain's world update.
And as all of these episodes start, we must say hello.
kerry cassidy
Hi, everyone.
I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot.
jordan holmes
Hi, Carrie!
kerry cassidy
I want to talk about my latest articles and also the latest video interviews I've been doing because there are a lot of questions out there.
And obviously, now that everything is not super simple, so we're living in very complex times, and I think it's worth discussing.
dan friesen
It is.
It is definitely worth discussing how complicated the times we're living in are.
jordan holmes
I have a question.
dan friesen
Yes, sir.
jordan holmes
Is it possible in her worldview for things to get more complicated than they already are?
unidentified
Hmm.
jordan holmes
I mean, we've got international space treaties going on.
I feel like, and this is from her perspective?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I feel like a pandemic on Earth is low priority for her.
dan friesen
There's a lot of stuff that's happening that's invisible.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's very complicated.
How could it get more complicated for her?
unidentified
Well, you make a good point.
dan friesen
I honestly don't know.
jordan holmes
It does seem like everything's a little redundant.
dan friesen
We discovered eight new states of matter.
This is complicated.
This is difficult.
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
So what's complicated is you've got to understand the state of play in the world right now.
The forces that are jockeying for control of the world.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You've got the deep state, right?
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And you've got the good guys who are the Trump group.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Why not?
dan friesen
Why not?
Exactly.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we're here wherever you're here.
dan friesen
It turns out that they're in negotiations.
kerry cassidy
Taking a look at my website, I've got an article there which is basically talking about Negotiations going on between the deep state and the Trump group.
And the Trump group can really be thought of as Q, as well as, you know, members of the military, intelligence agencies, etc., who are what we call white hats, who are trying to change the system from within secretly.
Okay, and so that's how they started.
We're entering a time in which they need to, in theory, become much more public.
But it is taking a long time.
dan friesen
In theory, they need to become more public.
And it is also taking a really long time.
Almost like it's not going to happen.
jordan holmes
Almost.
dan friesen
So you've got these white hats.
That's the whole big team.
You've got Q. You've got Pachanek, probably.
jordan holmes
Some people in the military, whoever they may be.
dan friesen
All of Steve Pachanek's Wide-ranging intelligence team.
jordan holmes
Roger Stone's North Korean pals.
dan friesen
Sure.
Some weirdos who Kerry talks to that have funny ideas.
Charlie Freak, maybe?
Jim Semivan?
jordan holmes
I don't know, probably the Tiger King?
dan friesen
Why not?
jordan holmes
Throw it in there.
dan friesen
Joe Exotic?
So yeah, they're the good guys, the White Hats, and they're working against the Deep State, but they're in negotiations, and we're going to learn a little bit later what these negotiations are based on.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
I want to know more about these negotiations real bad.
dan friesen
We will learn a little bit more of that.
But we need to delineate here, again, the state of play.
Who are the teams?
So you have the White Hats, the Q, all that.
That's the good.
The Trump team.
And then it turns out all other political ideologies are the cabal.
kerry cassidy
So just from the outset, let's just set the playing field and understand that, yes, as Jordan Maxwell has always said, there are two wings to the bird.
The Democrats and the Republicans, they both are wings on the same bird.
In other words, there's the...
What we think of as the rhino Republicans and the Democrats working together, part of the deep state.
And then there's the Trump team, white hats, and they're part of the people.
They're reflecting the will of the people.
That's their intention.
That's their stated intention.
Regardless of whether you think they do that, that's what they are attempting to do.
And Trump is their leader.
dan friesen
So for a world that's super complicated, that almost sounds like an oversimplification of things.
jordan holmes
So there's good and bad, and Trump is the leader of good.
That doesn't seem very complicated.
dan friesen
And all the people in government are essentially working against the good.
They're all collaborating together and yet can't get anything done.
jordan holmes
It does seem, though, that...
Like, somehow there are delineations in the Republican.
There's rhinos.
There's a plethora of opinion, as we know, in the Republican Party.
dan friesen
There's rhinos and weirdos.
That's basically what you've got.
jordan holmes
That's the only complicating factor.
Otherwise, it's Republicans and Democrats are the same, except for Trump's people, who are great.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's a couple people like a Bobert or a Green, Marjorie Taylor Greene.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Those people are fine.
unidentified
They're cool.
Super cool.
jordan holmes
Yeah, great.
Crenshaw, he's got one eye or whatever.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's alright.
And then Madison Cawthorn.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah, he's a straight up Nazi in a wheelchair.
That's great.
dan friesen
Yeah, so the weird folk in the GOP are okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, good.
These are the teams.
So I'm...
I'm thinking about going to Riot Fest this coming time here in Chicago.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And one of the reasons is because the Mighty Mighty Boss Tones are playing, and I am an old school Mighty Mighty Boss Tones guy.
jordan holmes
Of course, of course.
dan friesen
And I will not apologize for it.
jordan holmes
Nobody's asking you to.
dan friesen
Someone is out there.
One of these people listening wants me to apologize.
jordan holmes
I want Dan to apologize for the Boss Tones.
dan friesen
And I refuse to.
jordan holmes
Never.
dan friesen
But I also was looking at the lineup, and on that same day, Saturday, Run the Jewels is playing.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And I was like, oh, I'd like to see them.
jordan holmes
Are they opening for Mighty Mighty Boston?
unidentified
I don't think so.
dan friesen
But I was like, I've liked LP since way back.
I'd like to beck in Fantastic Damage and the company flow.
People don't know this shit.
jordan holmes
This is pre-Run the Jewels.
dan friesen
They don't know about the Def Jux days, these motherfuckers.
And I was like, yeah, man.
I'm old school.
I'm being a hipster about my liking LP.
Right.
And that's not cool.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
That's not cool.
jordan holmes
No.
I mean, one of the most current rap groups...
I feel like you cannot also have nostalgia for it.
dan friesen
Yeah, but you have to let that kind of stuff go.
unidentified
True.
dan friesen
Like, just because I was listening to, like, Stepfather Factory and Deep Space Nine Millimeter back in the day, just because of that doesn't mean that I get to act all cool.
Now, the reason I bring this up is because Carrie's been down with this shit since way before Q. Of course.
She's been hanging out with the White Hats way longer than you.
jordan holmes
Why not?
dan friesen
She's a Q hipster.
kerry cassidy
What we know of as the White Hats, and I've been dealing with the White Hats since long before Q became public and Trump was involved.
You know, to my knowledge, the White Hats had a lot to do with a group that were putting out the White Hat reports, and I was working with them and interviewing Paladin, interviewing T-Man, and basically they were talking about...
This group that they're part of that is called the White Hats, that again is made up of people that are in all aspects of the military, retired military, government officials, you name it, around the world, not just in the United States, and that they have created a network, a secret network.
Under the circumstances, that is perhaps not so secret among the cabal because they get attacked by the cabal.
dan friesen
That sounds terrifying.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, that doesn't sound good at all.
dan friesen
I think based on what a lot of people in these conspiracy communities believe about shadowy secret societies, they may not be thrilled with an international group.
Secret ex-military folks who are working to change the direction of the world.
jordan holmes
You know, here's the thing I have with, again, we go back to their limitations on creativity, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
So she's tossing out, like, the government, the military, the cabals, you name it.
For me...
dan friesen
Again, by the way, nice Alex Jones turn of phrase, the you name it.
jordan holmes
The you name it is great.
The you name it is great.
But if you're asking me to name it, here's what's more terrifying to me.
All right?
20 water treatment supervisors.
The end.
Think about a conspiracy of water treatment supervisors all across this fucking country.
It would drive everyone mad!
You don't need to be in the government.
The government can't do shit!
We watch it fail!
All the time!
But water treatment supervisors, effective under the radar.
dan friesen
You make an interesting point.
I think that if you were trying to write some sort of a fiction about the ways that disruption could happen, I think you'd come up with way better things than...
jordan holmes
Shadowy Cabal.
dan friesen
Right.
International group of ex-military people who are all hanging out and working for Trump?
jordan holmes
God, yeah.
I mean, imagine you don't know anything about these 20 water treatment supervisors.
unidentified
Nothing!
jordan holmes
You can't find them.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
They're ghosts.
And then they're gone.
unidentified
Wow.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Is this your next book?
jordan holmes
I hope so.
dan friesen
So, not only do they, unfortunately, no water treatment supervisors on board, but the entire world's militaries and governments or whatever, folks who are really cool and working on a secret team, they also have hyper-intelligent AI.
unidentified
Ooh, that's so good.
kerry cassidy
It's also useful to know that Q and team have clearly indicated that, first of all, we know behind the scenes they're relying on an AI.
Some people might call it QAI.
Then they're also working and relying on the Sun Tzu Art of War.
And if you read that book, you'll see that acting to be much weaker than you are is one of its main principles.
So that the enemy doesn't attack you directly.
And also appearing to go along when in fact you plan to double-cross them.
Towards the end is also one of the principles.
And you can do your own research on that.
dan friesen
I haven't read The Art of War since college, probably.
But I think there's more to it than those ideas.
jordan holmes
It was really short.
dan friesen
I don't think that those were the basic ideas, the primary ideas behind it.
I think it's the things that Trump has brought up.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And maybe have to do with the art of the deal and such.
jordan holmes
Could be.
dan friesen
So you gotta understand that this is what's going on.
These are the teams and this is one of the primary ways that the Q team is figuring out their shit.
Art of War and AI.
jordan holmes
Highly advanced AI that has almost certainly not read the Art of War.
So the AI cannot assimilate concepts from the Art of War into it.
dan friesen
It's almost like a book would be unnecessary.
jordan holmes
It seems like a book would be very unnecessary.
dan friesen
Look, there's a method to Trump's madness, though.
And you gotta understand that he's not working alone.
But he's not working with the person you might think he's working with.
kerry cassidy
So, understanding the methods and the madness of Trump and team, you can...
Kind of figure out why it is Trump does certain things or doesn't do other things.
And also to really keep in mind that Trump does not work alone.
So we're not talking about two men, you know, Biden and Trump.
This is how people refer to it, but that's not really what's going on.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Is that how people refer to it?
dan friesen
I guess that there's a theory that Trump is working or like pulling.
Biden's strings behind the scenes or something?
They're working together?
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
I guess that that's a theory that some people have put forth.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I love it.
dan friesen
That's not one that I've run into too much, so good to know that that's a theory.
jordan holmes
I mean, it would kind of bum me out to have a shitty two-headed white man Hydra running the country, but I mean, you know, it could be worse.
dan friesen
Doodoods you're disappointed with, but in different ways.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Jordan, mic down for this clip.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
Is this going to be a good one?
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
So, in this clip, we learn that Biden is not Biden.
Biden's been being played.
unidentified
Ooh.
dan friesen
But...
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He's probably being played by three entities.
This is so fun.
kerry cassidy
Biden is said to be played by at least three individuals.
One, a clone.
Two, a general that's on Trump's side.
And three, Jim Carrey, who's also been brought over to Trump's side.
That means that in theory, Biden is under control of Trump.
However, that's not quite the case because a lot of the decisions Biden is making are what we call deep state decisions.
Those decisions are being allowed to happen by the Trump team, by the White Hats, again, because what they really want is they have an end in sight.
They want to wake up people who voted for Biden or who fell for the deception.
dan friesen
Sure.
I almost lost it.
When I heard that.
Jim Carrey is one of the three people playing.
jordan holmes
I thought there was no way it was going to end with Jim Carrey.
dan friesen
It's quite a surprise.
jordan holmes
No way.
unidentified
A clone, a general, and Jim Carrey.
Good.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
A clone, a general, and Jim Carrey walk into a bar.
dan friesen
Let me suggest a better plan.
Two clones and a general.
jordan holmes
Two clones and a general.
Clone Jim Carrey!
dan friesen
Why not?
jordan holmes
One of them could entertain the other one with references to his old movies.
I'm sure he would love that.
dan friesen
I think this is fascinating because what you have is you have to be like, okay, Biden's not Biden, right?
So we understand that he's like something else.
So he's a clone Jim Carrey and a general, right?
Great.
He's working with Trump and the Q team.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
And that's what...
The general who's playing him is in with Trump.
jordan holmes
It's a Trump general.
dan friesen
So you would think that Trump has control.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
And so like, yeah, obviously...
So why is it that Biden's doing things we hate?
Well, it must be because Trump wants him to do those globalist deep state decisions in order to wake up the public.
This is fun.
jordan holmes
If you can understand where he's coming from, you can reverse engineer the thought process behind his decisions.
Now, it could be incredibly complex.
Or it could just be very simple.
Does this benefit me or no?
I will do the thing that benefits me.
dan friesen
I think one of the ways you could look at this is, like, what if Joe Biden is just a person?
jordan holmes
What if Jim Carrey was always Joe Biden?
unidentified
That explains everything, though.
dan friesen
No, like, if Joe Biden's not a clone, not a general, and not Jim Carrey, you don't need an explanation for why he's making decisions that the Q team doesn't like.
jordan holmes
That doesn't make sense, because here's the craziest part, and this is gonna blow your mind, alright?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Biden is making decisions that are almost entirely consistent with his 50-year career in government.
So it's obvious, obvious, that while Ace Ventura was filming, Jim Carrey was also in Congress.
There's no other explanation.
That's why it was filmed in Florida.
Because Dan Marino...
That one got away with me.
I don't know where Dan Marino fits into this one.
Dan Marino's George Bush!
dan friesen
We should have known, like, on election night...
When Biden gave his acceptance speech and it ended with, smoking!
jordan holmes
We should have known.
You guys want me to be the president?
Alrighty then!
dan friesen
Somebody stop me!
I couldn't work that into a context.
jordan holmes
I know, it's difficult.
dan friesen
It's really hard.
jordan holmes
It's difficult.
Because it seems like it should be easy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So here's the thing though.
Sure.
My explanation that Biden is president and he's just a person.
That fails one very important test.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And that is the piece of information that Trump is actually president right now.
jordan holmes
That is a problem to fit in with Joe Biden as a person.
dan friesen
Well, we do know that Trump has been sworn in, and he is actually the president.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, what now?
dan friesen
Yep.
unidentified
Okay.
kerry cassidy
And even now, Trump is said to be sworn in by Juan O7.
And now, Juan O7, in my opinion, everything points to the fact that he's JFK Jr.
I do understand there's another guy named Michael.
Protzman, I think is how you say the last name, who is sort of infatuated by numbers, and he's gone on several shows, etc.
Some people think his voice sounds like a young JFK Jr., which to me is neither here nor there, and is certainly no proof of anything.
dan friesen
Agreed.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
What do you mean by he's infatuated by numbers?
jordan holmes
He's infatuated by numbers.
dan friesen
That doesn't sound like a compliment.
jordan holmes
He's kind of a new...
Have you seen the movie Pie?
He's a little bit like that.
You know, he's just infatuated by numbers and it's eventually going to drive him mad.
And then he will believe he's JFK Jr.
dan friesen
Number 23, Jim Carrey playing by...
unidentified
There we go!
jordan holmes
It's all coming together!
dan friesen
So, Wano Savings...
unidentified
Ooh!
jordan holmes
How did they get rid of, clone Joe Biden's memory?
dan friesen
How?
jordan holmes
Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind.
dan friesen
Kate Winslet?
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Hillary Clinton?
dan friesen
Wasn't David Cross in that movie?
Probably.
So, 107 is a guy who's like one of Carrie's...
Now that she can't go to prison and talk to Mark Richards, 107 is like a big insider.
He's a big expert guy.
And I think his name is a play on 007, 107.
I think there's some sort of a numerological thing there.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
dan friesen
I think he fancies himself a bit of a spy type.
But also, his name is intentional to make himself look like he's JFK Jr.
kerry cassidy
I've done several shows on why JFK Jr. and Juan of Savin are the same person, aside from the fact that Juan equals John, O equals Jackie O, and Savin is Savin Hill, where the JFK library is built, and no one would use that moniker.
And come out to the public unless they wanted people to know they actually were JFK Jr. or associated with him in some form or fashion.
So that shows intention on the part of 107 to be known as that other person.
dan friesen
It sure does.
jordan holmes
I mean...
I'm honestly, honestly, I'm almost impressed.
How far did she have to go to get from 107, a very simple 007 pun, into JFK Jr.?
dan friesen
That's amazing.
But I think she's probably right.
You know, 107 may be intentionally chosen names in order to evoke JFK Jr.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
In order to capitalize on the excitement in the Q community.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
The idea that JFK Jr. is alive.
jordan holmes
Why wouldn't you?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Of course you would.
dan friesen
So I think that she might be right that he intentionally did name himself this as a means of like...
Intentionally trying to evoke that, but that also does not prove that he is JFK Jr.
jordan holmes
No, no, there is a problem there.
Although, I have heard that he sounds like a young JFK Jr.
dan friesen
That's not proof of anything.
jordan holmes
No, I mean, if you add it with the 107...
dan friesen
That is neither here nor there.
Nope.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Neither here nor there.
We know that voices don't mean shit.
So, Kerry did a psych profile on 107, and also on JFK Jr.
jordan holmes
Okay.
I think they match up.
dan friesen
Boy, I want to get my hands on these psych profiles.
kerry cassidy
So 107, I did a whole psychological profile as to why this person is JFK Jr.
And I think it holds up.
And I also have also had psychic dreams about this.
And I've had constant on and off dialogue over text and occasional phone calls with...
The person calling himself Wano Sabin.
So, for all intents and purposes, that individual is laying out the philosophy, the plans, and being sort of the liaison, if you want to call him a press liaison for the Trump team.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I guess you've got this guy who, so far, the sense that I'm getting is that he's branded himself a bit of a high High access weirdo.
And now we've decided to accept him as the media attache of the Trump team that involves AI supercomputing and the art of war.
That's good.
This is good.
jordan holmes
I like when we cross genres and you can just see who would be a retired lieutenant colonel and who's a super soldier and you can just kind of see the basic archetypes.
dan friesen
Well, this guy might have actually played multiple roles.
He might have a little bit of a history to him.
jordan holmes
A little bit like Jim Carrey.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
Absolutely.
So you might notice that this is something that, I mean, it's kind of an elephant in the room.
And Carrie's got a...
She kind of has to address this sometimes.
And that is that a lot of her whistleblowers seem to be like...
jordan holmes
Full of shit.
unidentified
Well...
jordan holmes
Fakers.
Liars.
Bullshit artists.
Con men.
Liars.
dan friesen
I think a better way to put it is...
Embellishers?
They were born into Illuminati families.
jordan holmes
There is definitely that.
dan friesen
And now they've switched sides.
jordan holmes
That seems right.
kerry cassidy
These individuals...
All of my whistleblowers, in fact, and all of the individuals, I'm sure, on the Trump team who have worked for the deep state, in other words, many being born into deep state families originally, etc.
What we're talking about is individuals who have changed sides and have decided to come and work with and for the people.
So that's a key, understanding that, you know, these individuals, regardless of their original background, and in fact because of their original background, they actually know what they're talking about.
They have seen the reality behind the scenes having worked for the deep state in various capacities.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
So a lot of these people are like, you know, all of our whistleblowers are from Illuminati families that switch sides.
And like a lot of them are people who are using like deep aliases and stuff.
And like, I don't know who any of these people are.
But one of them who isn't is Leo Zagami.
I can tell you about his history.
Not sure if he...
He's one of the only people I've been able to really break through and figure out a lot of details about, and his story does not check out.
jordan holmes
No, no, it doesn't.
Unless his story was dope beats.
Dope beats.
dan friesen
Sick beats.
jordan holmes
Sick beats.
dan friesen
And a reputation around the Rome club scene for being silly.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Oh, man.
I just...
I mean...
They all have to be from former Illuminatis?
All of them?
This is the problem, though, with all of them being from Illuminati families.
You can't trust any of them, then.
dan friesen
True.
jordan holmes
You know, I mean, if it's a few defectors, you can tell that there's an organized block trying to keep people from defecting, and you've got a couple people coming over who have, like, escaped and they've got really good stories, and you can trust them and they're double agents.
But if it's everybody, that's a sigh up for sure.
dan friesen
Well, but I think that this is just a way to, like, have these people be allowed to have first-hand information about these evil things, and also they're not bad people, because they've turned on it, and they're trying to expose the darkness.
It's a way to...
I think Alex would call it...
No, that's not right.
Sheep dipping isn't the right term.
You're trying to just make someone palatable who's allowed to be like, I was there when they killed all the babies.
Or whatever.
So Juan is in a tough spot.
I don't know why.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm really confused as to why.
It seems like he's doing great.
He's the media liaison for secret Trump press people.
dan friesen
That involves a worldwide network of ex-military people who are controlling everything.
jordan holmes
He's at least pulling down six figures.
dan friesen
I would think so.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you would hope.
dan friesen
But thankfully, because he's JFK Jr., he's cool.
kerry cassidy
It's a fine sort of road to go down, or a difficult tightrope sort of act that 107 has to...
To negotiate.
But as John F. Kennedy Jr., he's in a unique position to do so.
And he does drop hints, by the way, when he does interviews all the time as to the fact that he is actually John F. Kennedy Jr.
jordan holmes
He couldn't be fucking with you.
kerry cassidy
Now, there is probably a so-called 107 pretender behind the scenes who works with him called Wayne Willett.
No doubt there is a Wayne Willett.
There are pictures online and there's been one video where Juan was talking and then they showed a Physical sort of view of Wayne Willett being in the same room, but that's not a surprise to me.
In fact, it's entirely possible that Wayne Willett is not only a comrade of 107, a good friend, but he's also on assignment, and he's on assignment to deflect whatever is necessary to play a double, if you will, and to...
To basically protect him, it's very logical that he might even be a bodyguard.
dan friesen
This checks out?
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
This is a good way to explain away how people have found videos of someone who looks exactly like 107.
jordan holmes
Easy!
dan friesen
Doing conspiracy grifts in the past.
jordan holmes
Well, they've been in the same room.
They've been in the same room.
There's no doubt that Wayne Willett is a person.
dan friesen
I don't know if I...
I have not seen this video where they're in the same room.
I have no idea what she's talking about, but I have found...
A number of people claiming that, hey, this guy looks exactly the same.
unidentified
Jesus.
dan friesen
This guy was doing stuff back in, like, 2014 as a big whistleblower type of thing.
He's done this game before, is basically what I come away from this with.
jordan holmes
You know, what I come away with this is, so long as you say the right stuff, people like Kerry will make up...
Any reason to let you keep going.
Any possible explanation will be way better than just being like, oh, well he's lying to me.
dan friesen
I think that's definitely true, but I also think this comes down to the same issue that a lot of the mainstream media has with access.
A lot of the reporting on Trump, let's say, was maybe not as critical as it could have been, or not as pointed as it could have been because of organizations fearing they would lose access.
And rightfully so.
jordan holmes
He would have probably kicked everybody out of the press pool and he didn't hold a press conference for a fucking year.
Or five years or whatever the fuck.
dan friesen
And unfortunately, in that case, it's the press's role to push the issue.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
If they had a spine.
dan friesen
Right.
But I think that Carrie suffers from the same thing, and that is that she has access to these people who are high-profile weirdos.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
And if she pressed the issue, she would lose access to Juan, she would lose access to Mark Richards.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
And somebody else would go to them and take all of her shit.
dan friesen
It's a vacuum that would be filled.
These people are grifting.
unidentified
That's true.
dan friesen
They need somebody to facilitate their grift.
jordan holmes
That's true, but I mean, goddammit, Carrie really freaks me out sometimes, because I'm on the edge of her knowing that she's fucking with me, and I'm on the edge of her having no clue.
Like, I just don't know.
I know there's no, like, middle ground for her.
She's either in or out, you know?
dan friesen
I don't think she's fucking with you.
jordan holmes
No, I know, but I mean like...
She went back and listened to our earlier episode, and she was like, well, I gotta fuck with Jordan.
dan friesen
Yeah, he seems unhinged.
jordan holmes
He seems nuts.
unidentified
I bet I could tip him over the edge real easy.
dan friesen
So we were talking earlier about the negotiation aspect of this.
There's negotiations going on.
And it turns out that the negotiation has to do with, like, averting a civil war kind of thing.
jordan holmes
Sure.
But isn't their plan already to, like, kill a bunch of people?
dan friesen
The deep state?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But they're gonna have to stop that.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's nice.
dan friesen
Because the deep state is now in a position where they have to negotiate because of three things.
jordan holmes
All three Joe Bidens.
dan friesen
No.
Jim Carrey's.
Here's the first one.
jordan holmes
Okay.
kerry cassidy
So there was the negotiation.
He felt the reason they're at a place of negotiation is because of the following three things, which is what's gone down in Afghanistan, which has suited the Trump administration to expose the poor leadership.
Under Biden and team and the deep state, in essence, their dark intentions and how they would, you know, basically are happy to see Americans suffer and so on and so forth.
So they feel that that is going to be the coup de grace that takes down Biden in the minds of the unenlightened, let's say.
Who voted for him.
dan friesen
So everyone who hasn't woken up is going to see what happened in Afghanistan and wake up that Joe Biden's a blah demon.
jordan holmes
Boy, if you're really thinking that this one reflects poorly on Biden's administration instead of the entirety of the past 20 years of American government, then you're out of your minds.
dan friesen
I mean, it doesn't reflect well on it, but there's a bigger picture.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, so that's the first thing, is Afghanistan.
And here's the second thing, which I think is like, I don't know about this.
kerry cassidy
Then there's Hurricane Ida.
And Hurricane Ida, there was a lot of conversation he said about that.
And again, now Hurricane Ida would have been a deep state, shot across the bow, a weather war, a weather weapon, which they do use hurricanes all the time to do, and earthquakes and all other, you know, so-called climate events.
And basically Hurricane Ida was...
It has multiple purposes, one of which was to shut down the oil production to, again, to cripple the country in theory and to also shut down the area of Louisiana, New Orleans area and related areas and to basically threaten, again, the American people.
dan friesen
Yeah, I guess Hurricane Ida was a weather weapon that was meant to, like, look out, people.
We can do this to you at any time.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Then why didn't they advertise that?
dan friesen
I didn't experience it that way.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I certainly thought it was just a weather event that was tragic in many ways.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, if it's a warning, you have to warn people.
dan friesen
For it to be a warning, yes.
jordan holmes
You can't warn somebody with magic that they have no idea you can do.
dan friesen
Right, and the reason to give a warning is to change someone's behavior.
If the kid is doing something you don't like, you warn them that you'll take away their allowance if they do it again.
jordan holmes
Here are simple consequences which will lead to larger consequences.
dan friesen
Right.
Yes.
I don't understand what behavior is supposed to be stopped, or else we'll get another hurricane.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's like pranking somebody with one of those things where they open the door and then the bucket of water falls on their head, right?
But nobody's around, and nobody ever finds out it's you.
That's not a warning.
That's just a weird thing to do to somebody.
dan friesen
It's also not a prank, even in that...
unidentified
No!
jordan holmes
It's just a weird attack!
It's assault!
Yeah!
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
This is confusing to me.
So, these are the reasons that the deep state's willing to negotiate, though.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Is because of Afghanistan making Biden look bad, and then Ida apparently being a deep state weather weapon.
I don't know how that makes the deep state more willing...
Yeah.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I think the thing I hate most about this type of...
This group of people's admiration for Trump is that the one group of people who understands Trump is the one who likes him because of his psychopathic hatred for human life.
And that allows them to indulge in their violent impulses.
And then you've got Kerry, who's got this whole other narrative where Trump cares about people.
And it's like, somehow...
You're crazier than people who are trying to murder right now, because at least they know what Trump is for.
You're out of your mind if you think he cares about one human who died anywhere.
dan friesen
Yeah, definitely.
jordan holmes
Out of your mind.
dan friesen
So those are the first two things.
So there's a third thing that's making the New World Order deep state willing to negotiate.
kerry cassidy
And then we have the audits.
And this is where I think Phil made his most important point, basically saying that the audits, with an S, were not just Maricopa County, but going into all the other states, and that the evidence was already in and that in essence what they have been doing is sitting on the evidence so that the Trump team is sitting on evidence
Evidence that has come in through these audits that are sort of like this dog and pony show with Michael Lindell and basically going in slow motion to do a count, a recount of something they already have on blockchain.
They knew the election would be stolen, that Trump had won 80-20 percentage-wise, and that all the things that were coming down, they knew this back actually before the election.
So they were totally prepared.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
happened and now that these audits are happening, they're going to reveal the information the Trump team already has that Trump won 80-20 in the election, which is unheard of numbers.
jordan holmes
That would be difficult.
dan friesen
That's outrageous in terms of the popular vote.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Reagan won 48 fucking states or whatever it is, and he did not get AD20.
dan friesen
That's for goddamn sure.
Did not.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Yeah, and so these are the reasons that the deep state's willing to negotiate.
They know they're in trouble.
jordan holmes
That doesn't sound like it makes any sense whatsoever.
Why would the deep state negotiate with people who can...
I mean, essentially, get rid of them at any point in time.
You know, like, if you have the evidence, you can just go, goodbye, Deep State.
dan friesen
Yeah, it really sounds like the bad guys are on the ropes.
So there must be some kind of a reason why this isn't happening.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, there's got to be an explanation for it.
dan friesen
And thankfully, we get that in this next clip.
kerry cassidy
In essence, Trump and team now hold the Trump card that shows that Trump is indeed the legitimate.
You know, Commander-in-Chief and President of the United States.
He has been actually sworn in by the military since, again, March 11th of 2021.
jordan holmes
That doesn't make sense.
kerry cassidy
This is something that Juan has said repeatedly.
And so, basically, we're talking about an acknowledgement of this fact and a recognition of this fact by the American public.
However, what they're...
Holding on the evidence to prevent a civil war because they believe that they still don't have a critical mass of individuals who have awakened.
And last time I heard Juan on one of the shows say they have something like 70%.
They need 80%.
And this, I guess, they think is going to deflect.
dan friesen
Yeah, if you just come out and give this proof definitively, it'll cause a civil war because only 70% of the population is woken up and you need 10 more percent than that.
jordan holmes
Point of order.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
If Trump won 80-20, to find out that he won 80-20 would suggest that 80% of the population would be going, hooray!
dan friesen
80% of the population would already know.
jordan holmes
Yeah, so why would there be a civil war?
20% would get their ass kicked!
They would get murdered!
dan friesen
Also, I want to see some data.
jordan holmes
Ooh!
Is there a Pew research on this?
You can't go to the blockchain, Dan.
We don't have that kind of access.
Only 107 or JFK Jr.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Who knows?
Or Wayne Willett, who has been around for a long time lying to people.
Could be him, too.
dan friesen
Who knows?
jordan holmes
Probably not.
dan friesen
Yeah, I find this to be a fun...
But underwhelming explanation for why the evidence isn't there.
jordan holmes
Really terrible.
Because we need 10% more.
Listen, it's 75% now.
It's like a GoFundMe.
Unless we reach our goal, we don't get to overthrow the country.
It's unfortunate.
dan friesen
So there's an election coming up in California.
Of course, there's the recall.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's going to be really funny whenever he loses and we fall into a nightmare.
dan friesen
Well, look, it's probably going to be stolen.
unidentified
Yeah.
kerry cassidy
By the way, we're about to have a California election in which they've already photographed people stealing the mail-in votes and all this kind of thing.
So there's no doubt that that election is working to be stolen as well, whether it can be rescued.
By the White House.
I don't know.
dan friesen
Isn't that a fascinating turn of phrase?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Can this election be rescued?
jordan holmes
Sure.
Sure.
Not won by voting.
Rescued.
dan friesen
It's already implied.
jordan holmes
We've already lost.
dan friesen
Essentially.
And I think there are a lot of people who have that mentality of like, it's already implied that we're going to lose because of cheating.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So now the only way we can win is by some kind of aggressive tactics to rescue the election.
From this presumed theft.
jordan holmes
Well, we've lost a legitimate election not because our policies and ideas are batshit crazy and everybody hates us.
It is definitely because it's going to be stolen.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
So what we should do to these cheaters is beat them up outside of polling places and then we'll never have to deal with it.
dan friesen
Boy, that's a good way to rescue something.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it rescued me.
dan friesen
So we get off the political...
Intrigue.
Is he not JFK Jr. negotiations with the deep state?
jordan holmes
Yeah, like a real Ross and Rachel situation.
dan friesen
And now we have to learn about a woman who had a vision.
This is very important.
kerry cassidy
Apparently an individual called Anna Marie on 8 to 21 saw a vision and she saw a mushroom cloud in an open field.
In what she thought was a national park, Civil War tents, dark green and color, and then some mountains and a plume of smoke that turned into a mushroom cloud.
She believes it may be Gettysburg or near Gettysburg that this happened.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
kerry cassidy
The reason that's interesting is because I did some research on Gettysburg and found out that during the Civil War...
Actually, Gettysburg was considered to be, supposedly the Battle of Gettysburg was supposed to be the end of the Civil War in the minds of, I guess, the individuals fighting that war at the time.
jordan holmes
The dead ones?
kerry cassidy
And that instead it became not only sort of an instigator, but it...
It actually prolonged the Civil War for another two years.
dan friesen
She might have want to read a couple more pages about the Gettysburg Battle.
jordan holmes
I would have gone with a couple more pages.
dan friesen
Because the people who thought it would be the end of the war were the Confederacy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because Lee was marching.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And the reason it's a turning point in the war, and the war ended up going longer, was because it was a decisive Union victory.
Yeah.
And so I guess if you're saying it should have been the end of the war, then you think the Confederacy should have won.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So congratulations on that interpretation of history that's a little bit weird.
Also, why are we...
jordan holmes
Well, it was the War of Northern Aggression, Dan.
dan friesen
Why are we taking, as gospel, the visions of a random woman?
jordan holmes
I don't know what's going on.
You know, I feel like...
Here's what I feel like.
And I think I've figured out most of human history, right?
You know how no one is interested in your dreams but you?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Well...
If you want to tell somebody a dream story, right, and you know in advance that they're going to be like, I don't give a shit about your dreams, you dumb-dumb.
Keep them to yourself.
They're dreams, right?
So you want to tell this story, you have to say it was a prophetic dream.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Otherwise, people aren't going to listen to your dumb story about your dumb dream about a mushroom cloud in Gettysburg.
Everybody would be like, hey, that's a dumb dream.
dan friesen
It implies a little bit more weight.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it also implies that it has something not to do with just your own psyche.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, maybe the dream is saying something metaphorically about what you're going through.
unidentified
Right, right.
dan friesen
These archetypal images maybe are something that reflect a part of your feelings.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
As opposed to there's actually going to be a nuke set off at Gettysburg.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, it would not make a...
If Matthew was like, hey, dudes, check this out.
I had this dream where Jesus came out of this fucking cave.
Am I right?
Everybody would be like, oh, yeah, of course.
He just died.
That's sad.
dan friesen
But the other possibility is that they're going to nuke Gettysburg.
kerry cassidy
If the Illuminati are looking for a site by which to unleash any kind of weapon, whether it be nuclear or something else that causes a mushroom cloud, I'm not sure what.
Other things do.
jordan holmes
Bombs.
dan friesen
Mushroom bombs.
kerry cassidy
Neutron bombs, etc.
Then perhaps this is what Anna Marie was seeing is something that would be...
Basically set off by them, and she thought this would happen in September.
In fact, I think she thinks it's on September 11th, which is coming up in a couple days.
jordan holmes
Put it on the clock.
dan friesen
Dodge that bullet.
jordan holmes
We got a few hours left, Dan.
dan friesen
Can you confirm or deny that Gettysburg got nuked on September 11th?
jordan holmes
I'm going to go with a no, sir.
It didn't happen.
unidentified
That was close.
jordan holmes
How many score in seven years ago was Gettysburg?
dan friesen
I also think that it does bear mentioning.
Carrie does bring up some other remote viewers.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Some of them have said September 21st.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
We're not out of the woods.
jordan holmes
That's good.
dan friesen
We're not out of the woods.
jordan holmes
I would hate it if we were already past her bullshit.
dan friesen
And they also said that it might be New York.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, there's a lot of options.
dan friesen
Gettysburg or New York on the 11th or the 21st.
jordan holmes
Or any large major city.
Probably is also involved.
dan friesen
Look, if anything happens, we predict it.
jordan holmes
I had a dream.
It's Mushroom Cloud.
dan friesen
Close to the bottom line.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'll find a way to hammer that into a Mushroom Cloud metaphor.
dan friesen
But see, it's not just this random woman, Anna Maria, who saw this.
It's also something that, like I said, these remote viewers that Carrie has heard about.
jordan holmes
Sure.
kerry cassidy
Then what happened was I stumbled on...
Just somebody sending me a crypto video, which normally I wouldn't even bother to watch, but I recognized the individual who was on the cover.
I didn't quite remember who he was offhand, and then I realized it was Dick Allgaier, the famous remote viewer, who I've interviewed in the past.
He used to work with Courtney Brown.
So did Daz Smith, who's on this team of four expert remote viewers, and they were going to look at events in September very recently, and they were going to report about crypto, and instead they all saw a mushroom cloud.
And they saw it in their separate ways, and they didn't know the other ones saw that, and then eventually they came together and discussed it.
dan friesen
Well, I think this kind of puts it to bed.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Someone's gonna nuke Gettysburg.
jordan holmes
I love the idea of a ragtag band of remote viewers just getting together and being like, we gotta stop this apocalypse.
I'm writing books today.
I'm telling you right now.
We got the water treatment supervisors.
We got the four ragtag remote viewers coming out of everywhere.
We got Jim Carrey becoming president.
They're all in there!
dan friesen
I'm a little bit pissed off that Biden did such a bad job as the Riddler.
jordan holmes
He wasn't great.
dan friesen
I do think that that pitch that you have about a ragtag group of remote viewers, that kind of sounds like a forgotten Philip K. Dick novel.
jordan holmes
It does, yeah.
It could be Second Foundation by Asimov.
Maybe that's what I'm thinking of.
dan friesen
So these remote viewers, they all saw this mushroom cloud in September, but they won't come and talk about it.
Bastards.
Carrie will explain that they don't like to...
jordan holmes
Talk about things separately so they don't have their stories in concert?
dan friesen
Man.
Such a naysayer.
jordan holmes
I am a naysayer.
kerry cassidy
What I know about these remote viewers is they don't want to talk about this because they don't want to be implicated in putting out false data if they're wrong.
And number two of even...
Trying to, you know, give energy to this idea.
However, in the interest of deflecting the acts of the dark side, then eliminating the element of surprise is why I'm doing this and why I'm making emphasis on here.
It's simply because this will possibly deflect them if they think they're...
Their plans are known.
They may not carry them out or they may change their plans, whatever that happens to be.
You know, these are the kinds of things you're dealing with.
You're dealing with a lot of variables when you have some kind of dire act.
But I wouldn't put it past them to actually carry it out anyway.
dan friesen
So what you have here is you have Carrie setting up the exact same scenario that Alex does whenever he makes these predictions.
And what you're doing is you're creating a trap where you can never be wrong.
Because you're talking about this thing and the bad guys are gonna maybe hear this and they might change their plans because their plans have been exposed.
But also, you should still be scared because I wouldn't put it past them to do it anyway.
You can never be wrong when you set up...
Predictions and analysis like this.
Because you have a fictional backdoor built into your story already.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's interesting to see these kind of rhetorical similarities.
Right.
Because it is how you keep people stuck.
jordan holmes
Right.
No, I mean, if you were talking to somebody and they were like, I remote viewed the future.
And you were like, okay, so it's going to happen.
And they were like, maybe not.
Then you'd be like, well, then what's the fucking point of you?
I don't know the future, and I know maybe or maybe not, so you don't need to be here.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
So they have to add this element of like, ah, but I did something by...
dan friesen
By my actions, I averted the future that I predicted.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
And, okay.
jordan holmes
Thus, never allowing you to prove me right or wrong.
dan friesen
Yes, we can do nothing with this.
Thank you very much.
jordan holmes
Yes, go away.
Again, once again, your job is useless.
dan friesen
I have to go.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Carrie was talking to someone named Kim Gaugan.
I'm not sure who this person is.
I think it's another radio host of some sort.
Maybe they have another YouTube show.
jordan holmes
She related to Paul Gauguin?
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Distantly.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
There's some talk about whether or not the U.S. went to DEFCON 2 recently.
jordan holmes
When?
dan friesen
Recently.
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Well, actually, Kim has an explanation for why.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Carrie's going to explain what Kim has to say, but I want to be super clear and very fair.
Carrie's not actually saying this.
She's just reporting that this is what Kim said.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
kerry cassidy
Kim Gauguin came back to me and said the DEFCOM 2 on Monday or Tuesday was...
Her information was that the DEFCOM 2 on Monday or Tuesday was stated to be due to Semtex and ballistic missiles found in Boulder, Colorado.
jordan holmes
What?
kerry cassidy
The DHS bomb squad was called in.
Most likely they will pick up...
jordan holmes
For missiles?
kerry cassidy
A boogeyman and go to war.
This was authorized, in quotes, by military agencies.
Otherwise, it would never have made it over the Mexican border.
The story is that it was attempted, repeated attempts to move the financial system to Texas.
It was supposed to deflect a sort of attention from the movement of financial systems to Texas.
That's what she said, okay?
Or her sources said.
dan friesen
So again, Carrie's not necessarily saying this.
She's not saying it's not true.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But she's just reporting this is something that's being chatted about.
So there's a DEFCON tube because there were missiles that came up from Mexico that were found in Boulder, Colorado.
And the DHS was going to find somebody to blame on that and start a war in order to deflect from the fact that they're trying to move the financial market to Texas.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
dan friesen
Wall Street, now in Texas.
jordan holmes
The idea.
The idea.
Of the DHS calling in a bomb squad for missiles is the funniest possible thing I can think of.
dan friesen
It makes sense to me.
jordan holmes
I mean, imagine...
Just imagine there being missiles and the bomb squad is wearing the fucking bomb suits going to be like, hey, maybe I'll survive this fucking missile if I blow it up?
Get the fuck out of here!
dan friesen
That's why you send in the robots.
jordan holmes
You're not gonna send in, like, a missileer?
Maybe somebody whose job it is to deal with missiles?
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Somebody who probably...
We help build the missiles?
It's not like there's a million different types of missiles!
dan friesen
Also, Northrop Grumman has a station in Boulder, so like...
A bunch of people there.
jordan holmes
Probably know what they're doing.
Nope.
Call the DHS to blame it on a patsy.
dan friesen
Right.
In order to distract from the fact that they're moving the financial system to Texas.
jordan holmes
Yes.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
What does that mean?
jordan holmes
Derek Termit has been caught with a missile that he brought in from Mexico, so we're going to start a war.
dan friesen
And this is all to distract from the fact that Joe Rogan and Elon Musk moved to Texas or something.
unidentified
Oh, man.
Cool, cool, cool.
I want it.
jordan holmes
I want to see it.
dan friesen
So there's some other talk going on, and that is that they're going to shut down a state.
I don't know which state, because Carrie doesn't remember which state.
Again, she doesn't sweat the details.
jordan holmes
That's smart.
dan friesen
There's some state in the United States that's going to be shut down.
jordan holmes
Just shut down.
kerry cassidy
Someone recently said they're going to completely close down...
I forget which state it is.
I don't know.
Whatever.
jordan holmes
That would be helpful to know.
You can't just whatever a state!
kerry cassidy
You know, not let people in or out and all kinds of craziness is going to go on.
Apparently, they do want to try to force vaxes.
That's going to cause...
More civil war type issues.
jordan holmes
Sure.
kerry cassidy
You don't want a civil war if the Chinese are at your borders, which they are.
jordan holmes
They are not.
kerry cassidy
In fact, they're even training.
I have data and I reported on it and you can find it on my website saying that they're actually training in Pennsylvania.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
jordan holmes
So shut down Pennsylvania!
dan friesen
The Chinese military is training in Pennsylvania for a land invasion when they're already in the United States.
jordan holmes
I love the idea of the Chinese military anywhere in the United States practicing for anything, because there's zero possibility in the United States that a yokel will not stumble upon you.
Zero.
Zero possibility that somebody will not stumble upon the Chinese military practicing and be like, I gotta get out of here.
dan friesen
And we got data on it.
You're holding your cell phone!
I have to make a confession.
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
I did not...
Go check out her website.
jordan holmes
Oh, Dan!
God damn it!
unidentified
What is...
dan friesen
I let this one sit.
I'm gonna stipulate that whatever.
That's what I'm gonna say.
jordan holmes
Pennsylvania's not big enough.
dan friesen
Yeah.
If she doesn't know what state she's talking about, then I'm not gonna look into the Chinese land invasion by way of Pennsylvania.
jordan holmes
You can't just say...
dan friesen
You know what happened?
You know what happened?
Here's what happened.
jordan holmes
What happened?
dan friesen
The Chinese, they're working with the Pennsylvania Dutch.
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Homish will take over!
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
So, I give Carrie a hard time.
And, you know, some of it is good-spirited and some of it's not.
But I think that there are really salient similarities between the way that she disseminates information and the way Alex does.
And I think there's something you can learn from it.
jordan holmes
Totally.
dan friesen
Now, as a way to punch Alex right in his gut, I would like to play a clip that...
I think goes a long way to show that even Carrie, someone who believes in space raptors and all this nonsense, is still a little bit more sensible than Alex.
kerry cassidy
So, one and two are basically one faction, which is, in essence, the Rhino Republicans and the Democrats.
Then the other group would be, in essence, the White Hats and the people.
unidentified
I was wrong.
kerry cassidy
Part of the people can easily be a person who is a Democrat or a Republican.
These labels actually have to go by the wayside eventually because they don't really symbolize the true depth of what's going on here in the philosophies of the people.
I'm sure there are plenty of Democrats out there that think they don't want to be forced to do anything with their bodies whatsoever, let alone get a vaccine.
Weird that they want.
Democrats that are what I call closet Nazis, and they're just the opposite.
So, you know, I think it's important not to sort of slot somebody automatically into an enemy, if you will, category of humanity.
dan friesen
So, I mean, Kerry's even sensible enough to know that, like, some people who are, like, maybe...
Visually or superficially on a different track than you, they're not necessarily demons.
Whereas Alex spends most of his time talking about how...
jordan holmes
Everyone who disagrees with me is a demon.
dan friesen
Essentially the Democratic Party is all Satanists now, and they've admitted that they're killing babies as a ritual.
Yeah, it's...
It's a bummer.
You have this person who believes that JFK is her weird friend and all this stuff is going on and there's a cabal of secret intelligence people around the world that are working with Trump.
And they still have, in terms of where the rubber meets the road, how you treat other people.
A bit of a more evolved, more tolerant kind of perspective.
jordan holmes
Yeah, especially when you juxtapose it with 2003 Alex being like, these nutbags out there making us all look bad.
They make us look like conspiracy theorists.
These people out there with their, ooh, I've met aliens before.
Nah, man, buddy.
Even she's like...
Hey, let's not be a dick all the time.
dan friesen
You can't just assume that everybody's evil.
jordan holmes
Haven't you heard that thing about judging a book and covers?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we have one last clip, and I was feeling something as I was listening to this, and I was like, where are the fucking aliens?
unidentified
Because I was listening to this, and there is nothing about raptors.
dan friesen
There is nothing about the mercantile dogs.
There is nothing about the feline Contessas.
There is nothing about the mantis beings.
There is nothing about the squid.
I think there's some squid involved somewhere.
jordan holmes
Gotta be.
dan friesen
There's gotta be squid.
I was so disappointed.
And then we get towards the end, and Carrie says this, and I kind of felt like this is lip service.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
But I guess, whatever.
You take what you can get.
kerry cassidy
This situation is also influenced by the E.T. visitors and E.T.'s inhabiting human bodies, the human E.T. hybrids that are here.
Many of us are a mixture of many races of E.T.'s.
There's also said to be a so-called human group that's Adamic, or from Adam, Adam's seed.
But I think that that's also a misunderstanding.
Because if you go into the work of Ashina Dean, and her books are on the front page, on the lower part of the front page of my website.
And read those, you will find out that life on Earth and humans did not just begin when the Anunnaki decided to interfere with our genome.
So the whole Garden of Eden story stems from that period.
And certainly talking about where the Bible stems from, and prior to that time there was no Bible.
A lot of those stories also are slightly, if not completely misleading.
dan friesen
Alex wouldn't like that.
jordan holmes
Uh-uh.
No, that would not be good.
That would not make it easy to talk to somebody who's been to heaven before.
dan friesen
A lot of the Bible is apparently misleading.
jordan holmes
Who would have guessed?
dan friesen
But I felt a little bit sort of unsatisfied by that, because aliens are involved, but how?
What are the aliens doing?
Because, like, this is big stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, like, this is, like, we got a lot going on right now.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Even with what she's talking about.
Someone might nuke Gettysburg.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, the aliens have to be involved.
They were involved in petty bullshit before.
jordan holmes
They were like, oh, there's a trade disagreement between China and the United States, so we've got the mercantile dogs to negotiate.
dan friesen
Yeah, when there was a wildfire, it was actually aliens eating people.
And they had to close off an area.
jordan holmes
They did such small shit back then.
dan friesen
Whenever there was a war, they had to close a portal or something.
This should have something to do with good alien hijinks.
jordan holmes
No mantis beings anywhere.
No beetles.
dan friesen
I was a little disappointed.
jordan holmes
That is a bummer.
dan friesen
It kind of betrays the entire worldview.
jordan holmes
You know, it does seem like, because it either goes one way or the other.
You know, it's got to be small shit with aliens, otherwise we would notice them, right?
So it's got to be that, like, oh, we're showing up in Vietnam during a war or whatever, you know, that thing.
Or it's got to be so big that the only thing that matters is space, you know?
Like, if you're talking about intergalactic travel...
Who gives a fuck about politics in the United States, you know?
Like, the only thing that should matter...
dan friesen
Unless the politics in the United States somehow implicates space.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Or it's part of a larger war between them, and it's a proxy war.
Like, we're everybody...
We're the universe's Vietnam.
You know, that kind of thing.
dan friesen
But what I'm not seeing is, like, how that works in relation to the topics that she's covering here.
Right.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
And I do hear her saying, apparently, you know, like, aliens are involved, and then just sort of letting it drop.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I find that to be not enough.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I need more.
jordan holmes
It's weak tea.
It's weak.
dan friesen
There's something that I wanted by coming back, and it was that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I didn't get that.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
But I did get a nice reprieve.
Yeah.
There was some fun to be found in these here waters.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so, like, I'm glad that I was able to find these not behind a paywall, and now we can sort of ethically discuss.
Get another voice about what's going on in the world, because it's important.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's important to be able to have different information streams.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, I think what really disappoints me, I think what really disappoints me is that...
It's because, I would assume it's because of Carrie's audience that she has to go into politics and shit.
You know what I'm saying?
Because if anybody is set up to be in a situation where even during the Trump and Biden disagreement years, or whatever it is we want to, even during the cold civil war we've been fighting since Obama was elected.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know, I mean, it's like, you can stay above the fray!
You're talking about space!
You're out there!
You know?
And you can apply the grays to whatever's going on, but that's not as important as the international trade disagreements between the fucking blubberbers and the...
You know?
dan friesen
I think social media, algorithm gaming, and a lot of those influences just became such a gold rush for people during the Trump period that I feel like maybe it was impossible to avoid.
jordan holmes
You couldn't not.
dan friesen
There might have not been a place in the marketplace for you to have weird ideas.
Maintain an audience and not have a strong position on Trump.
jordan holmes
Right.
Because there's other people out there who's got alien weirdos, but they've got a strong position on Trump.
And now that those two are intertwined...
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think it's possible.
I don't know.
Maybe someone will write a book about it one day.
jordan holmes
That'd be interesting.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, we'll be back with another episode.
We'll get back to Alex Jones.
Just had to give him a break.
Had to give ourselves a break.
Had to give you, the listeners, a break.
jordan holmes
I feel much better.
dan friesen
I feel a little bit cleansed.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And so we'll be back, but until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
That's right.
We're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight and at GoToBedJordan.
dan friesen
Yeah, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZXClark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robot.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
dan friesen
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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