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Sept. 9, 2021 - Knowledge Fight
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#594: September 7, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan discuss an episode of the Alex Jones Show that Dan has declared "unacceptable."  In this installment, Alex fails to cover a bombshell, tries to record a commercial during his show twice, and interviews someone about how many people may actually secretly be vampire clones. Citations

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alex jones
20:45
d
dan friesen
01:05:04
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jordan holmes
34:40
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dr stella immanuel
04:55
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steve quayle
00:02
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unidentified
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys.
alex jones
Knowledge.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Jordan.
Quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's your bright spot today?
My bright spot today, Jordan, is I was getting a little bit of work done this morning, and I happened to take a little break.
And I looked on YouTube, and I saw that there was a new trailer for the new Matrix movie.
jordan holmes
Ah, yes.
dan friesen
That just got released today.
jordan holmes
Yes, yes.
dan friesen
And I watched it.
jordan holmes
Keanu Reeves, America's Greatest Living Actor.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
I watched it, and I have some interesting thoughts about it.
But the reason it's a bright spot is because I can't wait for Alex's review.
Immediately, I saw this trailer.
I'm like, oh, yes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we're going to get this.
This is going to be great.
Yeah, we're going to be there.
dan friesen
Yeah, and so now I feel like it's my responsibility.
Even if I have to fund InfoWars, I have to keep them on the air.
jordan holmes
We will buy them tickets to the Matrix Resurrections.
dan friesen
I have to keep their show on the air at least until the end of the year.
We can't deprive the world of Alex Jones' Matrix 4 review.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
I'm counting down the minutes.
jordan holmes
When is it?
When's Matrix 4 out?
dan friesen
Christmas.
jordan holmes
Okay, so that means that we're gonna get...
Alex's Dune review.
We're gonna get his Matrix review.
I assume he's gonna watch Cowboy Bebop, the live-action one.
dan friesen
They're doing it in one movie?
jordan holmes
No.
He doesn't even...
So, they don't even have a second movie deal yet, and he's just like, I can only make the first half of this movie, so...
dan friesen
I can only make the first 15 pages.
unidentified
Fuck it.
jordan holmes
I don't care.
If you guys don't watch it, you're not gonna see how it ends.
Good fucking luck.
I like that strategy.
dan friesen
It's bold.
unidentified
I like it.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's gonna be a banner end of the...
jordan holmes
All of the early reviews have been like, Dune is the movie that you've always wanted to see Dune made into.
dan friesen
It's like, fuck yeah, man.
That's encouraging.
jordan holmes
I'm excited.
dan friesen
I don't know how much you can tell from a single trailer, but I will say...
I don't know if I need another Matrix movie that wrestles with whether or not the things he's experiencing are real.
Oh!
jordan holmes
Didn't we establish that?
dan friesen
I feel like they did a couple times.
jordan holmes
If we double back around and they're like, no, it's actually a double secret Matrix, I'm out.
dan friesen
Are you insane, actually?
jordan holmes
Who wrote that?
Roger Stone?
Is that the counter-counter-counter-coup narrative?
dan friesen
That would be Pachanek with Clancy.
Tom Clancy.
jordan holmes
Fair point.
Fair point.
Why didn't they write the Matrix movie?
dan friesen
I think they wrote a spec script and it got rejected because it probably sucked.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Yeah, they tried to replace Keanu Reeves' character, Thomas Anderson, with DZX Clark, intrepid psychologist slash fuck machine.
jordan holmes
I would like it if Harrison Ford made a cameo as himself.
That should be fun.
dan friesen
Why not?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
What's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
My bright spot, Dan, is the TV show Taskmaster!
dan friesen
You mentioned this the other day.
jordan holmes
Did I?
I think so.
I think I might have.
So I tweeted something out about wanting to do a British panel game show.
I love QI.
I'm a huge fan of Stephen Fry.
I will be rhyming the rest of the show.
And now it's time to get out of here.
But yeah, so Taskmaster is another British panel game show, but the conceit behind it is this guy gets a bunch of comics and he gives them this very open-ended task, like, open this thing, or whatever, and then they have to...
do it in an interesting and creative way.
Yeah.
unidentified
And the combination of like different personalities that they get every time ensures that there will be creative solutions that are like out of left field and also there'll be solutions where somebody's like okay and in two seconds just smashes it with That's a fair point.
dan friesen
I'm freaking out right now because I legitimately can't remember if you brought this up on the show or in casual social conversation.
jordan holmes
I can't remember either way.
dan friesen
Wow.
Yeah, but that does sound really interesting.
I did want to check it out.
I'm glad for the reminder.
jordan holmes
It's really, really great.
It really is.
Awesome.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we have an episode to get into.
I think it's one of the weirder ones I've heard in quite a while.
jordan holmes
I'm down.
dan friesen
It's September 7th, 2021.
jordan holmes
Blackjack!
That was pretty close.
That was pretty close.
dan friesen
Wild.
This episode's nuts.
I don't know how else to put it.
It's just nuts.
It's unacceptable.
There are a lot of adjectives.
jordan holmes
That's better than nuts.
dan friesen
So we'll get down to business on that, but before we do, let's take a little moment and say hello to some wonks.
Oh, that's a great idea.
First, Tabor, like Saber with a T. Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Tabor!
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Alana, thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Alana!
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Spooky Scout Alex, thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Spooky Scout Alex.
dan friesen
Thank you.
Next, this one I think is a little bit delayed, and I apologize, but you know how it is with our inboxes.
To Michael in Estonia, happy five years in four countries with two puppies.
Love, Macri!
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Oh, thank you very much.
unidentified
Thank you.
dan friesen
Next, Dirk Stryker.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Oh my god, if that's your real name, you win.
dan friesen
I don't think it is.
jordan holmes
If your real name is Dirk Stryker.
dan friesen
It's a hard name.
jordan holmes
Oh, man, you gotta be an assassin.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Next, Half Asleep in Gay Frog Pajamas.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
And Celine's Secret National Geographic Collection.
Thank you so much.
You are now a policy wonk.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
dan friesen
Also...
I don't know what to include this as, like a policy wonk shoutout or a hostile threat that we're sending over.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But Ville, V-I-L-L-E, again, I don't know how to pronounce anybody's name.
jordan holmes
Could be Via, could be Villa, could be anything.
Could be Vil, I don't know.
Could be anything, yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, they reached out and wanted me to tell Santa that her D&D character should, quote, be prepared for an unconventional family reunion.
unidentified
Ooh.
dan friesen
That definitely sounds like a threat, right?
jordan holmes
No!
No, that's not a threat.
That's a tease.
That means that they're going to, in the game, look, as a former dungeon master myself, that means in the game, something from the past is going to come up and there's going to be an exciting new scenario for them to play out.
dan friesen
It'll be great.
I disagree.
I think that Santa's character's family is dead and her character is going to be joining them in the afterlife.
jordan holmes
That's possible.
That is one reading of that.
dan friesen
Also, let me be...
Super clear about this.
We are not going to send veiled threats for other people.
jordan holmes
No, no veiled threats to anyone.
dan friesen
This is not going to become a thing.
jordan holmes
What a weird situation that would be.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, here is an out-of-context drop from today's show.
alex jones
I'm not stupid.
And you're not stupid, and Rand Paul's not stupid, and Ted Cruz is stupid, and Josh Hawley's not stupid.
dan friesen
I disagree with all of that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a clean slate.
unidentified
That's 0 for 6. Strongly disagree with all of this.
dan friesen
So, I was listening to this episode, and it goes to a lot of places, and there's a lot of things that get covered.
And one of the things that I noticed that wasn't being covered, and I thought it was kind of strange, is, is Owen Schroer still a political prisoner?
Is he still...
jordan holmes
I think he got his money and now he's gonna hang out?
dan friesen
Interesting twist about that.
jordan holmes
Oh, did he get his money?
dan friesen
Well, I went to the Go Give Fund whatever the alternative of GoFundMe.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
The Fuck Give Go, yeah.
He got to $200,000 really fast.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And now they have not even hit the goal yet.
jordan holmes
That's fantastic.
dan friesen
So it's slowed down quite a bit.
jordan holmes
That's great.
dan friesen
But yeah, I feel like this is not something they're talking about as much.
jordan holmes
If you don't hit your goal, do you not get the money?
dan friesen
No, I think you still do.
I don't think it's a Kickstarter.
unidentified
Oh, that sucks.
jordan holmes
That would have been great.
That would have been really fucking great if at the last second they were just like, sorry man, $248,000.
That's not enough.
dan friesen
Nope.
If that were the case, then every one of these grifters would just have a goal of $1.
jordan holmes
$1, yeah, that's fair.
That's a good point.
dan friesen
It's more important that you get the money than it be a lot.
So we start off the show here, and this is a trend that I've been noticing, and I don't know what to think of it, but it might be worrying.
unidentified
Isn't it queer?
Losing my timing this late in my career.
Where are the clowns?
There ought to be clowns.
Where?
Maybe next year.
alex jones
It's Tuesday, September 7th.
dan friesen
Alex has been using Send in the Clown as bumper music a little bit more regularly, and this is how he starts the show.
jordan holmes
This is how he starts the show.
This is what an old man plays before they die.
This is the day before you die.
Just an old man puts his record on, and he's like, it's old blue eyes, and then it's out of here.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I mean, you know, losing my timing this late in my career?
unidentified
Thematically, it's grim.
jordan holmes
It's on the nose, at least.
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, he gets a little introspective when he starts off the episode, obviously.
I mean, if you start with Sinatra's version of Sending the Clowns, you're in a mood.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's like playing only the first ten minutes of It's a Wonderful Life and being like, that was a great movie, right?
alex jones
Alright, I always try to be calm.
Those are really my best broadcasts.
I'm normally pretty even-keeled.
But the mainstream media loves to get the parts where I blow up and yell and scream.
And it's entertaining, but they love to try to...
Pigeonhole us as being maniacs, but you know, it was Barry Goldwater, famous maniac, in the last century, the main people that fought the New World Order and helped build the movement we have today that Ron Paul and Donald Trump and others stood on top of, and myself as well, on his shoulders, that said, extremism in defense of liberty is no vice.
dan friesen
First, very important point, the shows where Alex is calm are not the best ones.
The ones where he drunkenly throws hatchets at one of his own cameras, those are the best shows.
jordan holmes
Top, top, top marks.
dan friesen
And it's not even close.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, not even a little close.
dan friesen
That runaway best.
jordan holmes
Uh-uh, yeah.
dan friesen
Second, this is an interesting Barry Goldwater quote, because Alex isn't wrong that Goldwater did say those words.
However, they were written by a speechwriter, a big-time Lincoln scholar named Harry Jaffa.
Goldwater many times falsely attributed the quote to Cicero.
jordan holmes
Yeah, sure.
dan friesen
Most importantly, though, just because Barry Goldwater said something, that doesn't make it true.
It's a well-written sentence because it was written by a speechwriter, but that doesn't mean that it expresses an accurate point.
It's really just a pithy way of saying like...
If you bomb something for a good reason and you also kind of seem to enjoy bombing things, then you shouldn't be judged just because you secretly enjoy bombing things.
You're doing it for a good reason.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's as useless a platitude as, it is what it is.
dan friesen
Yeah, but it's a little bit, it sounds better in a speech than that.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
But Goldwater not only said this.
jordan holmes
Hey, folks, I'm gonna do whatever the fuck I want.
It's better if I say it like, extremism in the service of good is fine.
dan friesen
To quote Barry Goldwater, do what thou wilt.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
He had some other quotes, along with, would you like to buy antsy pants?
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And also, extremism in defense of liberty is no vice.
And this one isn't one of them.
alex jones
He also said, sometimes silence isn't golden, it's yellow.
dan friesen
Alex is presenting that as a Goldwater quote, and it is not.
It's most famously attributed to Georgia Senator Zell Miller, who was a Democrat in name but was basically a Republican.
You can find the transcript of the congressional record where Miller said these words from February 12, 2004.
And if you read them in their full context, they are fucking absurd.
So this whole thing is about how the U.S. is in a moral decline and it's going to collapse because of it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
The proof...
dan friesen
Quote, the culture of the far-left America was displayed in a startling way during the Super Bowl's now infamous halftime show, a show brought to us on behalf of Valueless Moonves and the pagan temple of Viacom Babylon.
jordan holmes
I am really bummed out.
That the far right can somehow lionize in history another old man bitching in the exact same way they do now.
dan friesen
About the Super Bowl.
jordan holmes
About the fucking Super Bowl.
dan friesen
You scandalized by seeing Janet Jackson's breast.
He goes on to say, quote, How many of you have ever run over a skunk with your car?
I know the president has.
Somewhere over there around Frog Hollow.
I have many times.
I can tell you that the stink stays around for a long time.
You can take the car through the car wash and it's still...
Woo!
jordan holmes
That's the man I want making legislation!
Yeah!
unidentified
Woo!
jordan holmes
I bet you write good policies!
unidentified
Woo!
dan friesen
We will be dealing with this breast for a long time.
jordan holmes
Thank God you're in Congress, the job you were clearly meant to have.
dan friesen
He swore that he wasn't just talking about a titty, going on to say, quote, wouldn't you expect a bumping, humping, trashy routine entitled I'm Gonna Get You Naked to End That Way?
Point of order, that's not the name of the song.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Does any responsible adult ever listen to the words of this rap crap?
I would quote you...
unidentified
It's 2004!
jordan holmes
This is 20 years ago and I'm already...
dan friesen
Calm down.
There's more to the quote.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ!
dan friesen
I would quote you some of the lyrics.
I would quote you some of it, but the sergeant at arms would throw me out of this chamber, as well he should.
Then there was that prancing, dancing, strutting, rutting guy, evidently suffering from jock itch because he kept yelling and grabbing his crotch.
But then, maybe there's a culture of crotch grabbing in this country I don't know about.
But as bad as all that was, the thing that yanked my chain the hardest was seeing this- Shut the fuck up!
This ignoramus with his pointed head sticking up through a hole that he had cut in the flag of the United States of America screaming about having a bottle of scotch and wanting lots of crotch.
jordan holmes
What is it about old white people that just makes them the worst?
They're just the fucking worst.
dan friesen
I went back and I watched that halftime show because I certainly haven't watched it since then.
I did not remember a guy sticking his head through an American flag and yelling, I have scotch and I want crotch.
jordan holmes
I just don't even know.
dan friesen
I don't...
I didn't see it in there.
Maybe there was a part with, like, Lil Jon that got edited out.
jordan holmes
Yeah, why not?
Why not?
Who cares?
Who cares either direction?
He's just gonna whine about it.
I saw a tit!
dan friesen
The performance of Rhythm Nation was pretty good in that halftime show.
jordan holmes
The idea that he's...
It's 2004 and he's like, have you heard some of these lyrics?
These men!
These men!
Perhaps boys would say...
unidentified
Fuck!
jordan holmes
I apologize!
dan friesen
Just rap crap.
jordan holmes
The police!
dan friesen
So this dude was on one in the Senate chamber.
You might be confused about what he was actually speaking about, because he doesn't get to that point until later on.
Quote, The desire and will of this Congress to meaningfully do anything about any of these so-called social issues is non-existent and embarrassingly disgraceful.
The American people are waiting and growing impatient with us.
They want something done.
I'm pleased to be a co-sponsor of SJ Resolution 26. So he's a real SJR...
jordan holmes
SJR...
You, uh, SJR, you, uh...
dan friesen
There was something there.
jordan holmes
There was something there.
dan friesen
It was a nice try.
jordan holmes
I couldn't get there.
dan friesen
So you probably don't remember what that is, SJ Resolution 26. No.
I wonder.
Oh, it was a proposed constitutional amendment defining marriages between one man and one woman.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
The rest of his speech certainly flows around this topic, from the Super Bowl complaints to not liking rap music.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
What a fucking asshole.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
But at least he wasn't speaking alongside a dude who would later be outed as a pedophile.
Oh no, hold on.
Quote, I stand shoulder to shoulder, not only with my Senate co-sponsors and Chief Justice Roy Moore of Alabama, but more importantly with our founding fathers.
jordan holmes
Great, great.
Great.
dan friesen
The quote itself sounds really good when you isolate it, but, you know, because it's not hard to agree with the point that sometimes being silent is the equivalent of being cowardly.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But the context of this quote is pretty important.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex has got the speaker wrong for the quote, and the quote itself is a ridiculous piece of Zell Miller's very, very dumb speech.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's insane.
dan friesen
Gay people can't get married.
jordan holmes
Let's give five minutes to a rebuttal from Senator Jordan from the great state of Illinois.
Let the record show Jordan is making the jerk-off motion, and he is seen as his time.
dan friesen
The floor would like to remind the good senator from Jordan that neighbors.
We don't want people to hear you in Maryland.
jordan holmes
That's a fair point.
dan friesen
So yeah, sometimes it's yellow.
Yes.
To be silent.
jordan holmes
What a great turn of phrase.
dan friesen
It's yellow.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And this gets Alex on another etymological trip.
jordan holmes
Oh, God, no.
alex jones
Like yellow bellies.
Why do they call that?
In war, some people fall to the ground and get the catatonic fetal position and urinate on themselves.
That's where the term yellow belly comes from, is people pissing themselves.
jordan holmes
Is that where the term yellow belly comes from?
dan friesen
Well, I understand how it seems like I'm just nitpicking things Alex says that he's wrong about, but I need to stress that this is part of demonstrating a pattern.
Alex doesn't know anything.
He's just repeating things he's heard as if they're the product of actual investigation or some sort of knowledge on his part.
And he's just hoping that you, as a listener, will be fooled into accepting his confident words as truth when they're not.
In this specific case, he's just imagined that the term yellow belly comes from soldiers who pissed on themselves in war, because that's something he's decided cowards do, and yellow belly is a term that means coward.
alex jones
Hooray!
jordan holmes
I do appreciate that I know for a fact, like when he just starts talking, that he's making that up completely out of his ass, but it does sound like he knows what he's talking about.
I will give him that.
dan friesen
Yeah, I actually kind of...
Would be willing to believe that he thinks that that is actually the etymology of it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, totally.
dan friesen
He's just accepted it as true and never looked into it.
unidentified
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
So it's actually really fascinating, the history of this, because no one actually knows where the term comes from.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
They can't really trace it down to a direct...
Right, right, All right.
There's a reference from 1842 in the U.S. from a newspaper.
That was referring to Mexican soldiers as yellow bellies.
And it's unclear if this is something that's racist or about a uniform.
History has kind of forgotten a bit of the context of that isolated old instance of the term.
jordan holmes
Right.
It could literally be their uniform had a yellow blouse.
dan friesen
It's a possibility.
jordan holmes
I don't know why blouse is the word I thought of.
dan friesen
And then there are some people who suggest that the root of the term has to do with the days when doctors believed that medical issues were all traced back to the humors.
And one of the four humors is...
jordan holmes
That is true.
dan friesen
And so that's another theory that linguists...
jordan holmes
It's not true in the sense that there are...
dan friesen
Well, it's true that it is one of the four.
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
It's not like that is what...
Yeah, I believe in the humors.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, why not?
dan friesen
This is a complicated etymological history that you have going on here, and it's not something that has a definitive answer, but there's one explanation that no one gives for the term.
jordan holmes
And that is that soldiers pee on themselves, and that's where it comes from.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Yep, he just made it up as he was talking.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's kind of astonishing that he could really say that out loud with no context or even background for it and just go with it in such a confident manner.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I feel like if you go see enough improv shows, you see people say things that are incorrect a lot and they just have to learn to keep moving.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
That's fair.
dan friesen
You know, if you stop and you're like, wait, hold on a second.
jordan holmes
That doesn't make any sense at all.
I'm not actually driving a car!
dan friesen
The show is over.
jordan holmes
This whole thing is a lie!
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, look, dude.
Alex is not one to complain.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
But he did a lot of work.
jordan holmes
I'm not mad at the crew.
I'm not mad at the crew.
dan friesen
He's really prepared, though.
alex jones
And again, I'm not complaining.
I did probably three hours of research last night, about four hours of research earlier than that throughout the day.
I did several hours of research late last night.
I couldn't help myself.
And so it's kind of like somebody that goes to a buffet dinner and orders 20 plates, even though you can't consume it all.
But I think I have a responsibility to really try to cover all this.
dan friesen
He couldn't help himself.
It was like a buffet of information.
So what's going on is he's got so much paper on the table, which is evidence of how much work he's done.
He's got so much paper.
jordan holmes
So, he realizes that in his metaphor, by ordering those 20 plates, he has ensured that he cannot consume all of the food on any of those plates, thus making the metaphor him not being able to consume the information that he's ostensibly going to regurgitate towards us.
dan friesen
It's almost like he's lost his timing this late in his career.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, somebody sent in the clowns.
dan friesen
So, at this point, Alex introduces what, like, the...
I don't know, is it MacGuffin?
Isn't that what it's called?
jordan holmes
MacGuffin, yeah, the driving force.
dan friesen
Yeah, the thing that would explain why he's done so much research, but obviously is not at all true.
jordan holmes
Right, whatever's in that fucking suitcase.
dan friesen
It's just the prop that he's using, and it has to do with a story from The Intercept.
alex jones
But let me just do this before I drill into the top stories.
Let me just give you some big announcements.
Major journalistic organizations, we'll get into The Intercept and others, did FOIA requests of Fauci and gain-of-function research at Wuhan and Chapel Hill, North Carolina and USA and China.
And it's hundreds of pages of Fauci directing chimeric merger of five viruses into a COVID SARS virus to then, quote, make a super vaccine.
For something that didn't exist in the entire evolutionary system of this planet.
dan friesen
So Alex has literally all the details wrong about this Intercept story.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They've got a Freedom of Information Act request going against the National Institutes of Health.
And as part of that, they released two really long grant contracts between the NIH and EcoHealth Alliance involving coronavirus-related work, some of which did involve the Wuhan Institute of Vibration.
Yes.
Alex is saying that it's hundreds of pages, but that's because one grant is 528 pages long, and the other is 386.
These are long-ass documents, and one of the problems that comes from using a document like this as evidence of your conspiracy is that they're super granular in terms of detail.
For instance, on page 72 of the first grant, which covered a project that was ongoing from 2014 to 2019, they include a breakdown of expenses related to two doctors who were part of the support team for their phone and internet.
This amounts to $47 per month, but it merits a paragraph in this grant proposal.
If you can't find specifics in this document with this many specifics, your conspiracy stinks.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not good.
dan friesen
So there are two grants here, but one of them doesn't even begin until July 2020, so I'm not going to consider it in terms of the conspiracy that Alex is spinning right now.
The other one is for this one that I mentioned from 2014 to 2019.
The details of it are pretty fascinating.
I read over a bunch of it.
You brought this to my attention because you stay up on the Intercept a little more than I do.
You're like, this is going to be a problem.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I immediately was like, oh, shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, we didn't have a Sneaky Snake episode this Wednesday, partially because of Labor Day.
Right.
Mostly because of Labor Day.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And then also because I was reading these grants.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they were exciting.
dan friesen
Yeah, but ultimately a lot of it got really technical, so I called in the help of our friend.
Who's not a health ranger, and I got a bit of it clarified about what the goals of this project were.
What they were up to was two-pronged.
The first part of the research was to go out and find samples to test for coronaviruses, either ones we've previously identified or new ones.
This would be done by going out to wild bat populations and taking samples from humans who have interactions with wild animal populations and from people who work in and animals at live animal markets.
So they would take these samples and sequence the RNA of the coronaviruses they found in them.
They'd take this RNA to make samples of a cell in a petri dish that would go on to express this virus.
And these were exposed to other cells that were expressing ACE2 receptors.
The reason to do this is because if there were going to be animal-to-human transmission of any of these viruses, it would most likely happen by way of the ACE2 receptors.
So this was a way to concoct circumstances.
Right.
So does that make sense to you?
jordan holmes
Yes.
And to, I would argue, almost all of the extreme right exploiting this, that is Arthur C. Clarke's magic to a T. You might as well have said, like, they take the virus from space and they put it into a hole and then the hole turns more virus around.
dan friesen
And nothing is being created here.
That's one of the really important distinctions to make.
This isn't gain of function, this is nonsense.
jordan holmes
No, they're not ripping the RNA apart.
Putting in their own genetically created sequences to then create a stronger virus and then test it on the ACE2 receptors in order to destroy the fucking population.
dan friesen
So that's the first part of this one, Grant.
The second part of the research was basically the phylogenic research aspect where they were trying to trace evolutionary roots of the coronaviruses that they had discovered.
The reason for doing this research is because there are some of these viruses that they find that only infect bats, and there are some that only infect humans, and there are some that are in the middle, like more likely to infect humans.
Right.
unidentified
Less likely to infect humans.
dan friesen
By studying the variations in these viruses, by determining what's different about them between them on an RNA level, these scientists might be able to make some progress in terms of isolating the part of a virus that makes it dangerous to humans.
Right.
unidentified
It's very important research.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
You can easily see the reasons that these types of grants would be given and how the things they were aiming to look into were pretty relevant.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
The FOIA requests weren't about Fauci.
The FOIA requests did not involve gain-of-function research.
The grants are not Fauci directing chimeric merging of five viruses into one coronavirus.
jordan holmes
That one was really surprising.
I assumed Fauci was trying to create that, but it turns out he wasn't.
dan friesen
Nope.
The end goal of the grant was not to make a super vaccine.
All that stuff is just stuff Alex has made up, and he's using the specter of this Intercept article to lend credibility to his notions, but none of it's real, and it's not even backed up by the article that he's referencing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex is making up these details because he doesn't care about the truth about what's going on.
He just saw a headline that looked useful to him, and he's filling in the details with the pieces of his already existing narratives.
Now, while we're on the subject, I'd like to take a moment to scold the Intercept, just for this article.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we had a good time scolding The Intercept together.
dan friesen
I wholly support journalistic institutions exploring unlikely or even sometimes derided possibilities, and I have no problem at all with people sending FOIA requests to learn more about the research that our government funds.
Totally appropriate.
jordan holmes
We're all on board.
dan friesen
For instance, like, if they were jamming five viruses together into one super coronavirus in order to make a super vaccine...
I think it would be good for somebody with a little bit of credibility to dig into it and try and figure out if there's any proof of this.
jordan holmes
I would like that.
I would like a journalistic outlet with standards to take a real look at it.
dan friesen
Yeah, that would be helpful.
I take issue with the framing of this article, though.
These grants that they found in their FOIA request are not evidence that should be used as any kind of justification for even slightly shifting closer to accepting the lab leak theory, a hypothesis.
The hypothesis that the virus could have escaped from a lab accident, which is still way different than Alex's story, that is possible.
But the current weight of evidence leans more towards a natural origin.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
On page 38 of the grant proposal, in the section where the participants give their personal statements, one of the researchers said this.
Quote, Part of the justification for this grant to be worth funding is that at this point,
in 2014, when they're applying for the grant, they'd already discovered previously unknown SARS-like viruses that could hypothetically...
Directly infect humans.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there was a very real impetus behind this happening when it did.
dan friesen
And we were coming off SARS and MERS.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
They were like, let's not do a SARS or MERS again.
dan friesen
It wouldn't be good.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it really wouldn't.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's almost like if you let it go wild, shit would go bad.
dan friesen
I understand that Alex is insane, but the Intercept should do better in terms of how they frame this story.
The reporting on these grants being released by a FOIA request shouldn't have a headline as vague as, quote, new details emerge about coronavirus research at Chinese lab.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That is not a good headline to accurately portray what's going on in the story.
jordan holmes
Immediate insinuation.
dan friesen
I would allow for this just to be bad, like a clickbait-type headline, except that the tone of this article is incredibly suggestive, and they have some questionable sources.
Here's one paragraph.
Quote, This is a roadmap to the high-risk research that could have led to the current pandemic, said Gary Ruskin, executive director of US Right to Know, a group that's been investigating the origins of COVID-19.
That's great, but the way this is written suggests that US Right to Know is an impartial group that's just trying to get to the bottom of this stuff.
It's the voice of clarity on the issue of the origin of COVID.
That's not true.
U.S. Right to Know is largely funded by the Organic Consumers Association, which is a naturopathic kind of outlet that doesn't seem to like mainstream medicine all that much.
They have a post on their website about how they've been slandered by the media for being anti-vax, when in reality they're just, quote, pro-vaccine safety.
That's the same dodge that literally every anti-vax entity makes when things get tough, like in the middle of a pandemic.
It's basically the way you keep your anti-vax positions, but...
Don't look too ridiculous in public.
unidentified
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
jordan holmes
We're just asking questions of the medical establishment.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Here's a little bit from that post on the Organic Consumers Association website.
Quote, Why should we be injecting experimental drugs into people at all when there are safe, effective, tried-and-true preventative measures?
And then parentheses, healthy food and natural health supplementation to strengthen our immune system and generic drugs for at-home or outpatient treatment to reduce the chances of hospitalization or death in those with serious pre-existing medical conditions.
This is just a slightly better written version of Alex's positions without any fun yelling.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Oh, also on their website, they were promoting a tribunal that they held in April to get to the bottom of the roots of COVID, and it also served as a way to promote Dr. Joseph Mercola's newest book, titled The Truth About COVID-19, Exposing the Great Reset, Lockdowns, Vaccine Passports, and the New Normal.
In fact, their blog routinely reposts things that were originally posted on Mercola's website.
And if you don't know, Joseph Mercola is one of the biggest anti-vax figures that exist in the media.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there we go.
dan friesen
He's huge.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
I've checked out their site, and the Organic Consumers Association, it's hard to tell apart from Mike Adams' natural news, and they are by far...
You got it.
That is not good.
Well, that said, probably the thing that made me most disappointed about this article is the last paragraph.
Quote, the second grant, Understanding Risk of Zoonotic Virus Emergence and Emerging Infectious Disease Hotspots in Southeast Asia, was awarded in August 2020 and extends through 2025.
The proposal, written in 2019, often seems prescient, focusing on scaling up and deploying resources in Asia in case of an outbreak of an emergent infectious disease and referring to Asia as, quote, the hottest of the EID hotspots.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
Here's the deal.
This article is about the conflicting hypotheses about the origin of the novel coronavirus.
The underlying documents gained by the FOIA request aren't really bombshells or evidence that makes the lab theory more compelling, and yet this article is written as if they should be seen that way.
This grant is, quote, prescient, as opposed to reflecting the well-documented history that many emerging infectious diseases pop up in Asia.
It's a huge continent.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say, that was one word that I read, and I was like, this whole thing can be fucking tossed away.
If you say prescient on a thing that is...
Overwhelmingly happened a million times in the past.
You're fucking wrong.
dan friesen
Yeah, and it's insinuative to the point where it's stylistically out of place.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Right to Know is a group that's investigating the roots of COVID, not an advocacy group primarily funded by an anti-vax, I'm sorry, pro-vaccine safety outlet of weirdos.
This isn't good.
I think if we were in normal times, I wouldn't really care that much.
This wouldn't be that huge of a screw-up.
Media outlets have misses from time to time.
Sometimes you interview somebody and you don't check in all the possible conflicts of interest.
Of course.
The problem is that the stakes are too high right now.
jordan holmes
Free of the Intercept to lend its credibility to this shit is damaging.
And not least of which...
How is it that you can be a journalist in 2021 and actually hear the name U.S. Right to Know and not immediately go, I wonder who that is.
Oh, obviously that's an anti-vax girl.
I mean, I saw the quote from U.S. Right to Know and I...
Clicked on the link and immediately I was like, what am I doing here?
I know what this shit is.
dan friesen
U.S. Right to Know is a little bit broader in their scope.
jordan holmes
It is.
dan friesen
There's a lot of the sort of left-wing woo kind of stuff.
jordan holmes
I went through some of that and I was like, this is fucked up.
dan friesen
There's a global pandemic running amok and the connection to reality surrounding that pandemic is being used as a wedge issue for extremists to radicalize people into their ranks.
This is not a time to make unforced errors and play directly into the hands of nefarious actors.
So if I were the editor at The Intercept, I might have given another go on this one before I sent it to print.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, fuck Alex and a wag of the finger to The Intercept.
Slightly different responses.
jordan holmes
I feel like a nice solid tap with a good ruler.
dan friesen
This is all bullshit.
The grants don't prove the lab hypothesis, although it does remain an outside possibility.
It just hasn't been shown to be likely.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
So that's where we're at.
That's his big story.
He doesn't spend much time on it.
He references it a bit.
And we'll see what he spends his time on other than that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, Jordan, I overprepared.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
It's like a buffet of information.
I overprepared.
Oh, no.
I'm not able to make any points.
jordan holmes
It's too much.
Too much information to consume.
dan friesen
Burp.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Info burp.
jordan holmes
That is a good name for the info burps.
Ah, I think that's better.
Yeah, I mean, the more I read the sourcing for that Intercept article, the more I got to the opposite conclusion that it's less likely.
Like, the more I read that, the more I'm like, you guys should have made this.
Look at how reasonable everybody is acting.
That's the headline there, is everybody acting reasonably in best interests.
dan friesen
You know?
jordan holmes
It's crazy.
dan friesen
The context is absolutely missing for a lot of it.
jordan holmes
Astonishingly bad, yeah.
dan friesen
Just can't do that.
So anyway, Alex, talk some more about things that aren't true.
alex jones
It's also a scientific fact in the mainline literature that India basically suspended its vaccine program at 7% of the population because they made their own whole virus vaccine.
And again, the virus is so deadly in its spike protein, not in what it actually carries, that when the body created a response to that, it was also very poisonous.
And so India had to stop because of so many deaths.
People revolted.
And the vaccine they made did knock out all these COVID variants except the Delta variant.
dan friesen
So interesting, and not true.
If you go to India's Ministry of Health and Family Welfare website, you can find they're offering AstraZeneca and Covaxin vaccines.
They also approved Russia's Sputnik V vaccine back in April.
None of these are mRNA vaccines, and the one Alex is talking about is almost certainly the Covaxin, since that was made by India's own Bharat Biotech.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I have no idea where Alex is coming up with all the other stuff, though.
Covaxin recently released data showing their vaccine is 65.2% effective against the Delta variant and 93.4% effective against severe symptomatic COVID.
India currently also has a 12% vaccination rate and is working on getting that number higher, so I don't know what he's talking about with...
Suspended campaigns.
Whatever.
You can just say whatever you want.
jordan holmes
I'm just so furious.
I don't...
I know it's easy for him, but you can't say the virus is quote-unquote so deadly now.
Like, that's unfair.
You've spent the past...
How many months telling me that the virus either doesn't exist or isn't as deadly as they say?
That the virus is a bioweapon, but it's a fake bioweapon and the vaccine is the real thing that's deadly.
And now you get to tell me that the virus is so deadly that...
India's vaccine program is important to talk about now.
dan friesen
What you're not taking into account is that Alex had a mild case of COVID.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Twice.
dan friesen
And he had a more serious one where he felt like a gorilla was on his chest.
And so it's real serious this time.
Yep.
jordan holmes
Great.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
Just get to get away with it.
dan friesen
Boy, I don't think I saw that go around.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
That piece of information that Alex had COVID multiple times.
jordan holmes
Not as penetrative as Joe Rogan.
dan friesen
Or Alex's dumb bullshit stunts of taking COVID on air.
Taking Ivermectin on air.
Anyway, Fauci, evil, created the virus.
And he released it intentionally.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
These documents prove it.
jordan holmes
Chimera.
dan friesen
It's not even debated.
jordan holmes
It's super debated.
dan friesen
It's not.
jordan holmes
It's so debated.
dan friesen
Can I give you a rebuttal?
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It's not.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
That's a debate.
alex jones
It's not debated.
It's like, you don't debate what temperature water freezes at.
You don't debate what temperature it boils at.
Or what the speed of sound is.
Or what the speed of light is.
Or what the atomic weight of uranium is.
Or fluoride.
These are known things.
And that's what's so incredible.
It's known Fauci created this and then released it, obviously, on purpose, then lied about it.
It's known that they knew that if they created a vaccine for even a common cold, it creates deadly super viruses that are much more destructive.
That's why they could never do it.
They've been trying for 70 years.
dan friesen
All of that is debated.
jordan holmes
That's insane.
dan friesen
And, like, the temperature that water boils is, like, a scientific fact, but it also depends on...
jordan holmes
Yeah, all of the things that he just described.
dan friesen
Number of variables.
jordan holmes
All the things that he just described that we know are only what we know in relation to other circumstances.
In these environments, we do know that.
We also know that they change.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, I know that we mentioned this earlier.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But Alex has a lot of stacks of paper.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
So many.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he does have a lot of stacks.
Do any of them say that the speed of light is actually...
dan friesen
So many stacks.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
How many...
You know what?
They probably have a definite weight that's not debated.
alex jones
I'm not even...
That's three stacks of 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17. That's a giant three-inch stack.
jordan holmes
What are you, Pablo Escobar?
alex jones
17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 22 stacks.
Every one of these, you could do a whole show on.
jordan holmes
So do a whole show on one of them.
alex jones
The only stack right here is the UN officially announcing they're going to end parenthood and put children in camps worldwide via COVID, including the U.S. That's a big announcement.
It's the end of the family and that the family's bad.
Officially from the UN, I'm going to show you the official government document.
That's their endgame as your children.
That's one stack right here.
dan friesen
Listen to the rest of the show, and I don't think that he ever provided evidence that the UN has decided to end families.
jordan holmes
That is such a huge official announcement.
That were that to be an official announcement, the next thing you should show me is the official announcement.
Someone announcing it.
dan friesen
The Secretary General being like, look, families suck.
jordan holmes
Families blow!
My family sucks.
Guess what?
No families.
dan friesen
Hey, all my friends complain about going home for Thanksgiving and how annoying it is.
Why don't we just end families?
jordan holmes
Why don't we just end families?
My dad was a real dick when I was a child, so let's just end families.
dan friesen
Also, leaving that aside, here's a good rule for you.
Don't measure something like the news you have to cover by volume.
Having more paper or presumably more stories, that's not an indication that you have a better or more important stories to cover or that you have stories that you understand or can even communicate to an audience.
unidentified
Uh-uh.
jordan holmes
I'm better than mainstream news.
I have more stacks.
dan friesen
Typically, when someone's trying to sell you something in bulk, it's not a high-quality item.
jordan holmes
No, come on.
Sam's Club, Kirkland, you know it's great stuff.
dan friesen
I don't know, man.
Malto meal often isn't as good as more expensive cereals.
jordan holmes
Well, come on now.
dan friesen
Just saying.
Anyway, Alex is a little bit mopey.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He gets a little bit sad.
jordan holmes
Sure.
Send in the clowns.
dan friesen
Send in the clowns.
There should be clowns.
He's in that mood because he realizes, like, man, I used to have a website, prisonplanet.com.
We used to update that website.
No one updates that website anymore.
alex jones
You know, we don't update it anymore.
jordan holmes
Your timing's bad.
alex jones
For Infowars.com and Paul Watson used to update it and Paul Watson quasi does some work with us but really doesn't anymore.
So no one even updates PrisonPlanet.com anymore.
Let's put PrisonPlanet.com used to be bigger than Infowars on screen.
Who knows the last time it was updated.
I'm going to hire some people and reboot that site.
unidentified
Five bucks says you don't.
alex jones
I started that site 20-something years ago.
dan friesen
He's going to get a bunch of callers to do the site.
alex jones
Oh, people quit using it, so I forgot a month ago I directed people to direct them to Bandai Video.
That's right.
But we're going to resurrect that site.
Why?
Thanks for reminding me.
It redirects to Bandai Video.
So that's where we are.
We don't even have the staff or the money or the crew to be able to even have a site that's been around 20 years that predicted everything even stay up.
Or be updated.
I'm not complaining, but so much of our crew that we built up and we expanded and we funded, when I got deplatformed, didn't cut and run, but just kind of stood back.
dan friesen
Yeah, they all left, Chip.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they all left.
dan friesen
Oh boy, this is sad.
This is real sad.
jordan holmes
This is very sad.
dan friesen
Also, I think that generally Prison Planet and Infowars were kind of like...
Duplicate websites?
jordan holmes
Yeah, they were just the...
dan friesen
Very similar content was hosted on both, and Infowars, as a website, goes back to 1999.
Like, you could find stuff on the Wayback Machine that far back.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I don't know what the point is.
You had another URL, and now it's a redirect to your video site.
jordan holmes
I'm not here for wistful reminiscence about websites that I didn't care about in the first place.
dan friesen
And how sad you are that PJW doesn't really do anything for you anymore.
jordan holmes
And you didn't even know!
Oh, you didn't even remember that you've already redirected it to band.video.
dan friesen
It's clearly important.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's clearly something that is relevant.
jordan holmes
You had a staff there who did it for you.
Yeah, you're fine.
dan friesen
So we got send in the clowns that started to become more of the rotation.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And I noticed another song.
I was like, what are you doing?
unidentified
I'm going to leave my living, I'll be even used Just give me something, something I can use People love it when you lose The police are running over people all over the western world with horses.
What?
dan friesen
Alex is clearly an Eagles guy.
jordan holmes
What is happening?
dan friesen
He constantly rants over You Belong to the City by Glenn Frey.
Now we have Dirty Laundry by Don Henley coming in.
If we get Life's Been Good to Me so far, it's not going to be an accident if that song comes in.
jordan holmes
Just switch to Fleetwood Mac.
I'm sick of the Eagles.
I don't need Eagles.
dan friesen
Did Felder have any solo hits?
I don't think he did.
jordan holmes
No, he did not.
dan friesen
Also, Alex playing dirty laundry as bumper music while he launches into a string of sensational headlines about people getting run over by horses all across the Western world and all that kind of bullshit.
That's honestly entering the territory of stuff that could possibly be satire.
This absolutely isn't the case, but if Alex were a performance artist desperately trying to clue his audience in that he's doing a bit, this is exactly the song he would choose.
Dirty Laundry is a song where Don Henley is complaining about the way the news has become more sensationalized and tabloid-focused in the early 80s.
Here's some lyrics from that song, and really imagine, if you were doing satire, how this would be hilarious theme music to play on The Alex Jones Show.
We can do the innuendo.
We can dance and sing.
When it's said and done, we haven't told you a thing.
We all know that crap is king.
Give us dirty laundry.
That would be exactly what you would play for Alex if it was a joke.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if I were about to get a divorce, I'd just be like, hey, listen to Rumors by Fleetwood Mac and then leave the room.
That's all you need to do.
dan friesen
If somebody, like, the evidence is mounting, circumstantial, of course, of a rogue board operator.
jordan holmes
Somebody knows what's up.
Somebody knows what's up.
dan friesen
Who's trying to make me laugh, and that's it.
And if so, if that is the case, well done.
jordan holmes
That would be one of the most romantic Romantic comedies I can think of is the board operator for Infowars is trying to send you messages.
Eventually, after the whole thing's over, you guys reconnect 20 years from now.
dan friesen
All right, all right.
Start playing.
Life's been good to me so far.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Like Joe Walsh.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
That'll be the sign.
jordan holmes
We need a real signal.
dan friesen
Okay.
So Alex talks a little bit about how we're in a depopulation war.
That's what's going on.
Generally, I would say that your position should be against depopulation wars.
It shouldn't be conditional.
jordan holmes
It should not be conditional.
dan friesen
It seems conditional for Alex.
jordan holmes
There shouldn't be conditions.
alex jones
This is an organized depopulation war because the globalists are saying we're overpopulated like deer in the city.
They'll just overpopulate, overpopulate, there's no predators.
So they're naturally going to create artificial cataclysms with viruses and conflicts and starvation that get rid of us.
And you can even argue that in the survival of the fittest mode, that that has a place.
But you see the people running this are pedophiles and Satanists and are Yeah, that's the problem.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
I mean, obviously, Dan, our population should be controlled by natural predators who take care of us and keep us from fucking starving to death by overpopulation.
Obviously, that's the case.
But I don't want pedophile predators doing it.
dan friesen
I don't want Satanists.
jordan holmes
Look, if I was being hunted by a fucking tiger in the jungle, I would be furious if I found out it was a pedophile tiger.
It would be like, what's the fucking point?
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that when I...
Whenever you talk about, like, believing in humanity and, you know, like, liking God and this stuff, I think that generally...
jordan holmes
The indomitable human spirit, if you will.
dan friesen
Typically, that doesn't include also the weak should die.
jordan holmes
Look, I think it's a bad thing that giant herons have started eating humans and pulling them out of their offices.
dan friesen
They're just better adapted.
jordan holmes
However, I will say that the humans who survive are going to be a lot stronger fighting those herons in about 100 years.
dan friesen
And if not, the herons have shown that they are the dominant species.
jordan holmes
God has clearly chosen them.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, the plan, as you probably know, is to kill everyone.
Right?
I mean, sort of?
jordan holmes
Well, not everybody.
dan friesen
But maybe it's to cause a stock market collapse once everybody is killed.
jordan holmes
Well, sure.
You gotta have that.
dan friesen
Maybe it's to have a...
I don't know.
Anyway, they're gonna kill everybody.
jordan holmes
I think the stock market would collapse during everybody being killed.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But anyway, the plan is to kill everyone.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
But this is the ultimate tyranny that wants to actually get us in a position to kill us.
So we must address what we're under attack by.
We must address we're in a war.
Alright, we're gonna go to break, come back, and I'll start drilling into it.
Before I go any further, I'm really excited about this.
I told you that we're going to have a lot of new products coming out.
And I have done a lot with the crew to make sure we have these products.
I'm in the process of selling my house so I can make sure to get even more products in because of supply chain problems.
dan friesen
Schrodinger's house shows up again.
Has it been sold or has it not?
Who knows?
jordan holmes
We're on year four of Housewatch.
dan friesen
Also not entirely sure how selling your house resolves.
Supply chain issues.
jordan holmes
No, it takes care of it.
We can't get our stuff here on time.
If I sell my house, I can bribe truck drivers to bypass their...
I don't know.
dan friesen
Yeah, and that ad pivot from, like, you know, we're all gonna die kind of talk to...
We're doing it.
I have exciting new products.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Man, that would have been fun four years ago.
jordan holmes
It really would have.
dan friesen
Those pleasure centers of our brain are just burned out.
jordan holmes
They are.
The idea of life.
And look, we're all about to die.
Look forward to my new product coming up.
dan friesen
It's so crass and offensive and so just boring and normal for Alex.
jordan holmes
Just wild, yeah.
dan friesen
So, look, we're all going to die, right?
jordan holmes
Don't get depressed.
unidentified
You can still consume before you die.
dan friesen
Capitalism will be here for you.
jordan holmes
Right up until the end.
dan friesen
Now, in addition to that, you've got to get right with God.
alex jones
I am not excited to be proven right.
In fact, I've gotten really close to God.
I've gotten right with God.
unidentified
Have you?
alex jones
And it's only because the times have gotten so bad.
I've never been closer to Jesus.
And I really would tell you, you need to get close to God yourselves.
I'm not lecturing you.
I'm not some goody-two-shoes up here on some high horse.
I'm not one of these fake preachers that's designed to turn you off from God.
This is good versus either the Satanists, the main Satan group that's got millions of supporters in the U.S. I've researched them.
They've had a hit movie, Hail Satan.
jordan holmes
Hit movie?
alex jones
I've watched the Democrats basically adopt Satanism as their operating system.
Their Jacobins 2.0.
French Revolution 2.0.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
They came out and said, we sacrifice babies when we kill children.
dan friesen
They did.
They came out.
They said it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, so did the UN.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
All right, cool.
jordan holmes
Put that official announcement up.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
I need it.
dan friesen
I didn't see it.
jordan holmes
You didn't see it?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Dan, if you don't have any proof, how could you say something like that?
dan friesen
I don't know, but it's troubling.
Also, hit movie.
jordan holmes
I'm blown away by the need to call it a hit movie.
That's just like having prestigious doctors.
You can't just have an under-the-radar indie film movie of Satanists.
It's gotta be fucking Billboard charts.
dan friesen
And anything that Alex has been in is a huge hit, too.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Scanner Darkly was one of the biggest box office smashes.
So God's real.
And you got to stand up.
Because you don't want to be yellow.
You want to be golden or silence or goldwater quote.
jordan holmes
Goldwater quote.
alex jones
And it's not because I'm some damn hero.
God is real.
This is a test.
You better well stand up or I'll tell you what God's going to do to you.
jordan holmes
Nothing.
alex jones
Hell is the absence of God.
God is going to put you into the Phantom Zone with these people.
God is going to dump you.
Into a pit with these people.
And believe me, these are dishonest, dishonorable people that are into betrayal and manipulation because they're weak.
And they're seeking power from the god of this world.
They sold out for their 15 minutes of power.
And even the 15 minutes of power stinks and has nothing in it.
dan friesen
The Phantom Zone, of course, is the parallel dimension from Superman comics where folks get in prison.
Real fun how Alex relates to his holy concepts.
Next thing you know, he's going to be on the show referring to heaven as Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters.
jordan holmes
Honestly, the moment I heard that, I immediately was transported realizing how much power hell had over me as a child.
And if at one point, if at any point in time, the pastor had just been like, hell is the absence of God, and if you don't get right with God, he will send you to the Phantom Zone.
All of my fears would disappear, and I'd be like, you're right, hell is exactly as stupid as the Phantom Zone.
dan friesen
You're gonna be hanging out with General Zod.
jordan holmes
Well done.
You nailed it.
Hell is dumb!
dan friesen
Yeah.
Also, I want to be clear, ultimately this is what Alex's show is about.
If you want to pretend he knows anything about the news topics he's covering, you're making a fucking fool out of yourself.
This is what his show is about.
Talking about the fucking Phantom Zone.
jordan holmes
God will send you to the Phantom Zone!
dan friesen
Yeah, and...
Self-mythologizing.
alex jones
I've been around the real Satanists, folks.
Not these garden-variety pop Satanists.
I've seen it.
I'm going to leave it at that.
I didn't do anything illegal.
unidentified
I hate garden-variety pop Satanists.
alex jones
I've been there with the rich people, the billionaires.
jordan holmes
Do you watch a kid get sacrificed?
alex jones
Because Satan is interdimensional.
Doesn't have long-term omnipresence.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
But does have the capacity, like an AI computer, to...
Direct the lines of the future and see what's going to happen.
Why do you think they tried to recruit me over and over again, no matter where I went or what I did when I was young?
Because they could tell I was going to end up going with God.
And thank God I did.
dan friesen
So let's take a moment and really let that soak in.
When Joe Rogan has Alex Jones on his show and he treats him like someone who should be taken seriously, what he's doing is validating and tacitly condoning this person who claims on air that Satanists have been trying to recruit him his whole life because Satan can see the future and he knew that eventually Alex would be important for God's plans for his side of the battle.
jordan holmes
Now, unfortunately for Satan, he does not have long-term omnipresence, which is a real bummer.
dan friesen
There's a limitation to his power set.
jordan holmes
Raw deal.
Raw deal!
dan friesen
But he does rule over the Phantom Zone.
And if you manage to say his name backwards...
jordan holmes
I was about to make a pixel!
God damn it, Dan!
You're too fast!
You're too fast!
This is blackjack all over again!
dan friesen
See, that's my power.
jordan holmes
And my limitation is never being able to catch up.
dan friesen
Alex doesn't say stuff like that on Joe Rogan's show because it would turn off the broader audience and people would laugh at him, having seen him for what he really is and is a raving idiot.
This kind of talk is for Alex's show, because it's a pretty safe assumption that anyone who's going to make it 45 minutes into this shit, they're already fairly in.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're in.
dan friesen
When Alex goes on Rogan, he essentially is recruiting an army of idiots who will never listen to his show, but who are willing to post snarky bullshit about how, like, actually, Alex Jones is more right than he is wrong often.
unidentified
He's really just a guy who's super worried about government corruption.
dan friesen
These fucking rubes provide Alex and InfoWars the tons of free press and make it so the message, you know, will get out to a wider audience.
And then the odds of sucking in people who will resonate with the idea of fighting the literal devil will increase and those people will get sucked in.
into Alex's revenue stream.
There's nothing really else to say, but shame on you, Joe Rogan.
How dare you?
You know, you have everything reason to know that the show that your friend does that you give support to is this he talks about the devil Trying to recruit him for his entire life because the devil can see the future and he knew that Alex would be important to God's battle plan.
jordan holmes
You got it.
dan friesen
That's fucked up.
Don't fucking treat him like he's a guy who's read documents.
How dare you?
jordan holmes
He's got documents, Dan.
unidentified
Ugh.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex has enjoyed...
Well, enjoyed's the wrong word.
He's experienced some of the energy of Satan, right?
jordan holmes
God.
dan friesen
Damn it.
He's experienced some of the Satanic energy.
jordan holmes
I am so...
Annoyed.
I mean, think about listening to Alex say what Satan can and cannot do.
Like...
What are you doing with a deity at all?
At all!
At all!
If you're going to claim that you can talk to God and God told you that Satan can only do certain things and you know it and that you are allowed to tell everybody, just give up on God.
Just go to the comic books.
dan friesen
Satan can float, but he can't fly.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
What are we doing?
What are we fucking doing here?
Just give up.
Just give up!
dan friesen
He can read your mind, but he can't implant thoughts in your mind.
jordan holmes
Totally!
Sure!
unidentified
Fine!
dan friesen
That's the level of telepathic power he has.
jordan holmes
What else does he got?
Jesus Christ!
dan friesen
Yeah.
Well, Alex knows a little bit about those limitations because he's actually felt the power of Satan.
jordan holmes
I thought it was because he read the Dark Phoenix storyline.
dan friesen
But he probably has.
And he probably thinks it's real.
unidentified
Yes.
alex jones
I've experienced the satanic energy these people are looking for that they get when they kill a baby for just maybe a minute.
Then they gotta have sex with it to do something blasphemous to piss God off and move themselves further from God.
jordan holmes
Why?
alex jones
He's always trying to get his pawns to do bad things to cut God off from them.
And then once they're cut off, then they become like zombies.
dan friesen
Again, I do seriously wonder what Rogan thinks about having a giant role to play and making it acceptable and edgy to say things like Alex is right about a lot of stuff.
I kind of hope he feels like a big pile of shit.
jordan holmes
You know, hey, and while we're at it, I'm going to toss Tim Dillon in there too, because not enough people think he's a piece of shit.
dan friesen
I don't know him personally, but he certainly...
jordan holmes
He's helped out, so fuck him.
dan friesen
He's been on Rogan and supported Alex, so fuck him.
jordan holmes
Fuck him.
dan friesen
Also, I would ask Alex what he had to do to feel that satanic energy for like a minute.
If the Satanists get this from killing kids, did he like kill a kid?
Or did he get a mini rush from that time he killed his dog?
Inquiring minds want to know.
jordan holmes
You know, also, what does Satan give you the rush?
And if so, why does Satan make it so short?
Is it like Reagan and crack cocaine?
Is he trying to get people addicted?
I think it must be.
unidentified
Could be.
jordan holmes
Reagan is Satan.
dan friesen
Oh.
jordan holmes
Yeah?
dan friesen
They sound similar.
jordan holmes
That sounds right.
And?
Done.
dan friesen
There's a hidden truth in things that kind of rhyme.
jordan holmes
If it's a slant rhyme, it's truth.
That's my...
Barry Goldwater said that.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So, when Alex goes out to, you know...
Do things wherever he goes.
There's evidence of Satan.
jordan holmes
Well.
dan friesen
Just Satan.
jordan holmes
For now.
dan friesen
Holy shit.
jordan holmes
His omnipresence is temporary.
dan friesen
No, but if his omnipresence is temporary, that doesn't mean...
I don't even know what that means.
jordan holmes
It means that there's a temporary end date.
dan friesen
Okay, so if you have temporary omnipresence, that means you have omnipresence for a while.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then you also have presence at the other times, right?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I do also...
dan friesen
Temporary omnipresence does not imply or it doesn't require that when you're not omnipresent, you are not present.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
But, I mean, if you are omnipresent, you can always be.
dan friesen
In space.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, space and time are the exact same thing.
dan friesen
Sacrilege.
jordan holmes
It's space time.
dan friesen
I don't really care.
jordan holmes
Fair point.
dan friesen
Because we're talking about the devil.
jordan holmes
I need to really nail down what the devil...
I want a stat sheet for the devil.
dan friesen
I would be interested in that as well.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
See what his buffs are.
jordan holmes
I mean, I think his charisma's got to be off the charts, obviously.
dan friesen
He's like a...
You know, we've started playing a little bit of magic.
He's like a 10-10 gigantosaur.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
unidentified
There's no way you can fuck with him.
dan friesen
So anyway, here's a story about Alex eating some Satanists.
alex jones
I have been at the Capitol on a separate issue, and I said, what's this?
It's a pro-life thing?
And it was all these women praying, and it was all these Democrat women that were in the Capitol came out of the Democrats' offices in suits, like shirts, looked like nice ladies who lived next door that would bake cookies.
So there's these women praying to get an anti-abortion law, pro-life law passed, and I was just having to be there one time.
It's been caught on video before.
jordan holmes
Like Bigfoot.
alex jones
All around the country.
And all of a sudden, I go, what's that?
And I walk into the hallway, and the women are going like this.
Guys, show me.
There's an actual video of this.
And Owen's seen it, too, a few weeks ago.
He got footage of stuff like this.
And there's hours of it.
And there's videos that are famously...
And the women are going...
unidentified
I would be interested in seeing this video.
alex jones
Folks, this is not a joke, okay?
You can call it mass psychosis.
You can call it whatever you want.
I have seen this probably 50 times.
Now, the rich Satanists that I got ran into, because, you know, they'd lure me with their hot daughters or whatever when I was young.
They were not like that.
They were not possessed.
unidentified
They were all in control of it and, oh, yes, and all the rest of it.
alex jones
So when you look at the British Roe family, those are devil worshippers.
Those are blood-drinking people.
And it's come out, they get blood infusions of children.
But it's beyond that, because it's all about them.
Their selfishness, the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers, all of them, their selfishness to take a one-year-old baby and to torture it.
Their favorite's a three-year-old that is old enough to know what's going on and be really horrified.
jordan holmes
Sure, of course.
That makes sense.
alex jones
So you need to come to grips, folks.
That you're not worried about being put in a ghetto or executed or guillotined, because that's what it's going to come down to.
They're coming for us.
You need to worry about your soul, and you need to stand against them.
Go ahead and...
They found one of the clips.
dan friesen
Oh, man, they found one of the clips.
jordan holmes
Yeah, go ahead and play...
dan friesen
That was a repulsive display on his part.
But, interestingly, he does get to the end, and he says he has one of these clips.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
And I've only seen him threaten to play these clips before.
And so he does play it.
And there's one clip, and it's someone clearly fucking with a protester who's telling him that he's evil and that he needs to repent for being involved in abortion.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
This is Dr. Robert Santella, who worked at the Family Planning Center in San Diego.
In 2017, Santella lost his medical license, partially due to claims that he, quote, over-prescribed narcotics to six patients and botched an abortion on another patient.
However, another part of the judgment by the Medical Board of California was that he engaged in unprofessional conduct based on his behavior in that video.
alex jones
There we go.
dan friesen
The protester who's confronting Santella claimed that he was acting hyper-aggressively and threatening him with a pair of scissors.
Whatever the case, quote, As it turns out, Santella was a doctor with a couple of reprimands in his past.
And a five-year probation stretch in the mid-80s for, quote, gross negligence and incompetence.
Overall, it seems like he was kind of a shithead, exactly the sort of doctor you might expect to fuck with a protester by pretending to be a demon instead of just leaving him alone.
But what he wasn't was an actual demon.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so this is something that I...
jordan holmes
That is kind of what a demon would want you to think.
unidentified
Oh.
jordan holmes
Ah, maybe that's...
Just like how raptors go around with the Jurassic Park, then demons go around making...
Yeah.
dan friesen
So dumb.
So dumb.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
I was shocked.
Because Alex talks about this all the time, and he very rarely plays any specifics.
And this is one specific that he's like, this is a slam dunk.
And it's like, this is a quote-unquote famous high-profile video of this doctor.
And he got in trouble for it.
I mean, granted, he also was over-prescribing narcotics.
But there's still consequences for his actions in that video.
That's still part of what he was reprimanded for.
It's interesting to me that there's one side that has consequences, and there's one that does not.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it almost seems like when there's consequences for negative behavior, people are more equipped to learn a lesson from it.
dan friesen
You'd think.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, you know what one thing there's no consequences for?
Alex not getting to the news.
jordan holmes
Ah, well.
alex jones
God help us.
Okay, I haven't gotten to the news yet.
You know, I'm going to try.
I don't even know if I can do this.
I don't even know if I can do this.
I mean, seriously, I...
jordan holmes
I quit.
alex jones
I'm going to expose it all.
It's just every damn evil you can imagine is on this table, and it's just out in the open now.
It's just Satan making his move against everybody, and all we got to do is say no and reject it and not submit to it and ask God to protect us.
But you got to stand up first or God's not going to help you.
God hates cowards.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, you know, I like that moment of crisis that he had, clearly, very authentically.
Yeah.
Moment of, can I get to all this?
No, I can't do it.
unidentified
Oh, Lord.
dan friesen
I'm gonna expose it all.
alex jones
I'm gonna tell him everything.
jordan holmes
Lord, give me strength.
dan friesen
So anyway, he comes back and he talks about this Intercept article.
jordan holmes
There we go.
alex jones
All right, I will be a good boy and I will cover the incredible...
Intercept lawsuit that got the Fauci documents where he said make the chimera bioweapon.
He should be immediately arrested and charged with war crimes.
That's coming up next segment.
I'll go over all the documents.
dan friesen
Okay, well, we'll get to that eventually.
But what's important to get to first?
I mean, there is one thing that's really important.
alex jones
I have been so busy not complaining, it's just true, that I have not cut a new ad, even though this product has been in for a week, and we were supposed to launch it last week, but I've been so busy covering the news, I didn't do it.
So during the snowman's land, some stations don't carry this first little five minutes, but some do.
I'm going to do a plug and an ad that we can run during the network breaks so that I can fund our operation and so you can get a great product at the same time.
dan friesen
And so I don't have to do any work off air.
alex jones
Let me go ahead and get the product and do the plug for you right now.
unidentified
Wow.
alex jones
Several years ago...
I was talking to a lot of the top developers out there of high-end supplements and...
dan friesen
Just staggering.
Staggeringly lazy.
alex jones
Lord.
jordan holmes
Lord, give me strength.
When I come back from the break, please expose it all.
I will tell them everything, Lord.
But first, let me cut a commercial on air because I...
I don't want to stay past five.
dan friesen
This is a no man's land.
Some stations don't carry this part.
jordan holmes
Why would I reveal the truth if some stations won't carry it?
dan friesen
And, you know, I don't want to do work later.
jordan holmes
I don't want to stay past five.
dan friesen
So he talks about this product for a bit.
Unfortunately, there are some...
jordan holmes
Go get that brown bag from my office while I talk about this product.
dan friesen
There are some stray names of things in this ad read that he was unprepared for.
alex jones
An ashwagandha root, an ancient herb used for 3,000 years, botanical name, is favored for its many beneficial properties.
Support yourself and the info org at Brain Force Ultra now for an exclusive launch price before it's gone.
Flip the switch and supercharge.
And folks, I'll just be honest with you.
I'll have to recut this ad later.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no shit.
alex jones
I'm exhausted from reading all this.
jordan holmes
No fucking shit.
alex jones
And I'm so freaked out that I almost took off today.
And I'm not complaining.
I know this is hard for you guys to take, too.
But I just...
unidentified
I'll have to cut this ad later.
alex jones
I just...
I may have to take off again next week.
I gotta just get straight on all this, man.
This is just so horrible.
I mean, my God.
Do you think it's a bad trait of Mike Lindell that he's so optimistic that he's so positive?
dan friesen
This is just grim.
jordan holmes
It doesn't seem real.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Honestly, this seems like a sketch you and I wrote.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He's trying to do an ad so he doesn't have to do it later.
And he fucks up.
He can't read the copy.
So he says on air, look, I'm going to have to redo this.
unidentified
I just wasted everyone's time.
jordan holmes
It's just unreal.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It really doesn't seem like a...
I mean, there's no way that they broadcast that.
And then you stop for a second and you go, that was live.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It was all there.
No one stopped him.
dan friesen
You know what?
What sucks about being me is I think that that's...
The funniest sort of thing I could possibly imagine.
jordan holmes
It's the height of comedy.
dan friesen
Because it's not trying to be funny.
jordan holmes
Not at all.
dan friesen
There's pathos in it.
You don't feel that bad because he's a monster.
jordan holmes
Every bit of it is both in character and 100% impossible to believe.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You couldn't believe it.
dan friesen
I love it.
And the different flavors of this show already, just this one episode, they're all over the place, screaming about the fucking devil and his power set, refusing to actually cover this Intercept article that proves that Fauci custom-ordered a bioweapon.
And then failing to do an ad read so your lazy ass can go home and get drunk.
jordan holmes
I just can't.
I mean, can you imagine Dan Rather just all of a sudden being like, hey, I gotta cut this Lifeline commercial and I don't have the time for it after the show.
My little kid's playing in a baseball game.
So real quick.
Lifeline, have you fallen down or something?
dan friesen
Also, I'm going to send along to Dirty Laundry.
jordan holmes
Honestly, I don't think I'm ready to do this commercial right now.
dan friesen
I'm going to get to the news.
jordan holmes
You know what?
I don't even know if I should be here right now.
I'm just going to go talk to my...
You know, I'll finish the show.
dan friesen
Small point.
What?
He sounds like maybe he's got COVID again.
jordan holmes
I've got to take the next week off.
I'm coughing pretty heavily.
Something's on my chest.
Yeah, I should really get over this, if you will.
dan friesen
So instead of actually covering the Intercept story, you'll notice the way that he does this.
Because if you look at the Intercept story, it's based on two documents that they have posted in their entirety that are available that they got through FOIA.
Instead of covering the documents, some people might cover the Intercept story.
And I think that that would be a way to go about this.
Instead, Alex covers the American Journal coverage of the Intercept story.
jordan holmes
That sounds more like him.
alex jones
FOIA, Freedom of Information Act, confirms Fauci-funded construction of chimeric coronaviruses.
That was the headline from American.
Journal today.
dan friesen
So that's the American Journal coverage that he's got.
But he reads this, and then there's a bit from the Intercept article that he's reading.
And it's just not enough for him.
It's not salacious enough.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
As much as it does have a lot of insinuation that is inappropriate, I believe.
jordan holmes
Right.
At no point does it claim that the royal family has fucked a child.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So it is kind of dry.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's a little bit boring.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So Alex is going through, like, looking through the actual text of the Intercept article, and he gets bored.
alex jones
The documents were released in connection with the ongoing Freedom of Information Act litigation by The Intercept against the National Institutes of Health.
The Intercept is making the full documents available to the public.
unidentified
The Intercept is making the full documents available to the public.
jordan holmes
Real journalism sucks.
alex jones
Now, again, let me show you some of those documents right now, some of the screenshots right here.
CIA release, Fauci-funded coronavirus of, quote, chimeric coronaviruses in Wuhan.
unidentified
Now, thanks to the material here and here, we can go to the Zero Edge article and click and get the document.
dan friesen
So yeah, he goes to the Zero Hedge coverage of the Intercepts article.
Because he needs the filter of some other shithead coming up with the angle for him, or else he doesn't know what he's doing.
He has no context for the story.
He hasn't read...
Any of these documents, he hasn't read probably even the Intercept article.
He's read the American Journal headline and decided, shit, pretty good.
It's that Jesus lizard thing, running on the surface of the water.
jordan holmes
And you can hear how slow it is he cold reads.
So you're like, I can see you maybe spending three hours trying to finish the Intercept article, if that's your research level, if your ability to...
And then they...
Uh, okay.
Let's go to a different article.
dan friesen
The Intercept article is not that long.
jordan holmes
It's not.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Maybe a thousand words.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Maybe.
dan friesen
Now granted, those grants are pretty long.
I would not fault him for not reading those grants.
jordan holmes
I made it through about 50 pages and I was like, what am I doing?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I didn't write this grant and I don't need a grant.
dan friesen
I made it through considerably more, but at the same time, I think it would be silly to demand someone who is not...
Super literate in those sorts of language.
To be like, oh, you didn't read all of it?
But I still think that Alex has no grasp on this story whatsoever.
And he needs...
That's why Paul Joseph Watson has been such an important piece of his workflow for so long.
Paul comes up with these framings for him.
You get the article.
Or like in the Dan Salazar.
These people who do the writing for Alex, they get the story, they post it on Infowars in his voice.
Or in the way that he can use.
jordan holmes
Get the angle.
And let me embellish on top of it.
But I can't self-generate a good angle because I'm a moron.
dan friesen
And he can't even self-generate an angle from the Intercept article.
That's not even enough for him.
He's so lazy, he can't even go...
He can't go from A to C. He needs that B step in there.
Somebody with creativity.
Yeah, so Zero Hedge does that, or American Journal.
jordan holmes
Or just somebody who can read.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex Cold reads a bit of the screenshot that's in the Zero Hedge article from the other grant.
This is the one that started in June 2020.
jordan holmes
The one that's prescient, if you will.
alex jones
We constructed chimeric viruses and re-delivered full-length recombinant SARS-CoV-2 from the Silco sequence.
All three SARS-CoV-2 full-length isolates.
And two chimeric viruses replicated efficiently in vitro, that's in test tubes, E6 cells, and the Hella cells expressing HACE2, SIVERT, and BATACE2.
Wow.
But not in those without the ACE2, 246196.
We use the SARS-CoV-2 reverse genetics.
System 7-2 to generate chimeric virus.
dan friesen
I mean, this is, like, I don't, what is he saying?
jordan holmes
I don't, I don't know.
dan friesen
What do you gain from this coverage?
jordan holmes
I get nothing out of this other than knowing that he can't read.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Just straight up not being able to read.
dan friesen
This second grant is a little bit more complicated.
A friend who is not a health ranger did describe this to me, and again, it's...
It's kind of the same thing in terms of taking viruses that are found in the wild from sampling and putting them in a laboratory setting where you can see if they can infect cells with ACE2 receptor sites.
It's more complicated, but it's very similar in terms of goal and scope.
Some of the language that's used sounds like...
Oh, chimeric.
Oh, that sounds like five viruses jammed into one.
It's not.
Again, still, this isn't gain-of-function research.
This is not at all what Alex is pretending that it is.
It has nothing to do with, like, Fauci being like, ah, I'll order this one.
It's ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was another thing that I learned after reading, like, 50 pages of the grant proposal, is just reading that language, just going, like, even if I read all of this...
It is not my area of understanding.
So just reading all of this information is not going to help me whatsoever.
Just like calling somebody who is not a health ranger is going to be the best way to figure out how the grants work.
dan friesen
That was incredibly helpful.
And also, one of the things that I could suss out on my own and was confirmed in my consult was how not...
A lot of money.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was gonna say.
Every time people are like...
Like with Alex being like, oh, they're killing people for 60 grand.
It's like, that's nothing!
That's nothing!
dan friesen
You wouldn't be able to get these people to design a world-destroying bioweapon for a $600,000 grant.
jordan holmes
I mean, seriously.
dan friesen
It's kind of silly.
jordan holmes
Are you telling me that they wouldn't spend at least a billion on a world-ending virus?
I mean, Bill Gates could spend a billion tomorrow and kill everybody.
Why would they do it so cheaply?
dan friesen
This is the same thing as those fake Antifa contracts, too.
Like, there wouldn't be a grant for this.
If someone were cooking up a super bioweapon, you kind of imagine maybe they wouldn't leave a paper tray.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex, it's just bombshell stuff, man.
Bombshells.
alex jones
Let's put on screen for everybody.
The show headline today.
And just think about what a bombshell that is.
Global Red Alert.
Freedom of Information Act docs confirm Fauci created COVID-19 Chimera bioweapon and lied to Congress.
This is an emergency broadcast.
dan friesen
Alex probably is going to need to retract that.
jordan holmes
How is it that you can call your own headline a bombshell?
That's fucking...
Look at the headline that I made up out of the made-up information that I made up.
unidentified
It's a bombshell.
dan friesen
Because you want attention.
Also, because it's really fun, in that first grant, 528 pages long.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
How many times do you think Fauci's name is in it?
jordan holmes
Um, three.
dan friesen
Zero.
jordan holmes
Oh!
dan friesen
So close.
jordan holmes
I knew it would be small.
dan friesen
So, outside of cold reading and yelling a little bit, like, Alex does not cover these documents at all.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
dan friesen
There's no wrestling with what the actual research that they were doing was.
jordan holmes
Naturally.
dan friesen
Any of this.
I found it hyper-disappointing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because I think that mostly what he's saying could be rebutted just by saying, nope.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
I felt really pissed off that I tried.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a massive, massive disappointment.
dan friesen
Yep.
And you know what else is disappointing?
jordan holmes
There's just nothing to hang your hat on, man.
There's no juice.
There's no juice to it.
Even the Intercept was trying to be insinuative because probably it's just so fucking boring.
dan friesen
I'm not sure if...
You know, you could apply a motive to them.
I have no idea what led that coverage to be what it was.
jordan holmes
Sure, I won't imply a motive.
dan friesen
I could see just sort of a sunk cost kind of thing.
Like, we got these documents.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we might as well put something out about it.
dan friesen
And I could see another angle of it, too, being like, well, if we have these documents that we got through our FOIA lawsuit and we don't report on them...
People will think we're covering something up.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I can see all kinds of different thought processes going in, but I just still think...
jordan holmes
Take another pass at it.
dan friesen
Exactly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what's bad news, though?
jordan holmes
The headline of his show?
dan friesen
Well, it would be.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's not true, though.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
jordan holmes
Well, that's good.
dan friesen
The bad news is that everybody's going to get COVID.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that is bad news.
alex jones
What about the vaccinated?
With 4 million counted in the last four weeks.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
Last year was a hoax.
Last year was fear-mongering.
Last year was bull.
This year, from India, with the Delta variant, it's super infectious.
There's no way to hide it, no way to get away with it.
If you haven't already had COVID before, you're going to get it.
You better have your vitamins and your minerals and your water and your sunshine.
And you better get early treatment, not when you go to the hospital.
My head security guy had a really good friend.
She was in great shape.
And she was a nurse in North Austin.
And she went in and said, man, I'm having trouble breathing.
They said, just go home.
You'll be fine.
When she came back in an ambulance, they intubated her and killed her.
Notice, they're told, do not get early treatment because it's 100%, basically.
So, this is life and death, ladies and gentlemen.
Life and death.
dan friesen
Life and death.
That's a bummer.
jordan holmes
If it is life and death, Alex, then you are responsible for the deaths of a lot of people.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I mean, this blasé, everyone's gonna get it attitude is not something that he's had for a long period of time.
And that attitude, if he had that attitude during some of the other stages of his coverage, that's a problem.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
There's a real problem.
Anyway, he's a liar, and day-to-day he doesn't actually even believe anything he's saying, so who gives a shit?
jordan holmes
Who fucking cares?
dan friesen
Do you want some more bad news?
jordan holmes
Oh, sure.
I'm not busy.
dan friesen
Alex has this new product.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Brain Force Ultra or something?
Brain Ultra.
jordan holmes
All right.
How's the supply chain?
dan friesen
Well, he sold his house, so it's fine.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
dan friesen
But the product might be too strong.
alex jones
But I talked to the crew and I said, I want to make something even stronger, that's super clean, that is the best, strongest formula out there.
jordan holmes
I want to fucking kill people.
Tell me how!
alex jones
Consult your physician.
This isn't a game.
There's twice as much of the product total and it's twice as strong.
So, twice as much and it's twice as strong.
That's four times, basically, what Brain Force Plus is.
And this may be too strong for some people.
Or you might take a third of the dose the first time, just a few drops.
It's got everything in it.
Go on a seed.
unidentified
Oh boy.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This shit'll fuck you up, man!
jordan holmes
If it's twice as strong, and you take a third of it...
Aren't you only taking two-thirds of your regular amount?
dan friesen
No, because it's four times as strong.
It's twice as strong, and there's double the amount.
So if you take a third of it, then it's actually four-thirds.
jordan holmes
One and one-third?
dan friesen
Yeah, it's four-thirds.
Come on, do the math.
jordan holmes
So just slowly take a little bit more of what you...
dan friesen
So he really had trouble with that guarana seeds there at the end.
And it's like, yeah, all energy drinks have guarana.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
That's the...
jordan holmes
Alright, product team.
Let's get together.
I really want to fuck people up with this shit.
What do we do?
Let's double it.
And let's double that!
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, as he was going through this product read about how maybe it's too strong.
jordan holmes
It's too fucking strong.
dan friesen
I had a realization.
Mic down for this because you may have the same realization.
jordan holmes
Tied.
Don't use this product.
It'll turn all your clothes white.
alex jones
Yerba mate leaf, don't need to tell you why that's so powerful.
Green tea leaves, he'll tell you about that, and also its antioxidant levels.
Yerba mate has potassium, magnesium, and manganese in it as well.
Ginkgo leaf, known for its exceptional antioxidant content.
Ginkgo comes from an ancient group of plants that has been the focus of both ancient and modern fascination of science.
Ashwagandha root, herb used for 3,000 years.
Is favored for its many beneficial properties.
dan friesen
That's the line that Alex fucked up in the read that he did earlier.
He's trying to do it again.
jordan holmes
He's doing it again.
unidentified
He's taking a second pass at it on his job.
jordan holmes
He's doing it again, and he's not saying it.
He's not announcing it this time.
What a fucking asshole.
dan friesen
I love it.
jordan holmes
I hate him so much.
dan friesen
It's the only way that comedy could be heightened.
That's the next step in the game.
jordan holmes
It really is.
dan friesen
He's trying to do the same athlete a second time on the show so he doesn't have to stay five minutes after.
Oh my god.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I think he's trying to kill me.
I think he's trying to kill me.
He's trying to see if he can make one person so angry that person explodes.
That is all that I can process through all of this shit.
dan friesen
This whole podcast has really just been a part of a blood pressure medication trial.
unidentified
He's really gonna try and sneak it by everyone.
dan friesen
I loved it.
jordan holmes
Just so fucking great.
dan friesen
Pretty obvious, too.
jordan holmes
And whenever your product is just...
You might as well just say we crammed a bunch of shit in there.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, you're just naming things.
dan friesen
No, but I like that.
jordan holmes
We put it in a blender.
unidentified
Ashwagandha root.
jordan holmes
We put all this crap in a blender and turned it into a pill.
That's how little we care about what it is we do.
dan friesen
As somebody who listens to a lot of Alex's show, I relish those moments.
The ashwagandha root is fun to hear him say.
In the same way when he used to sell the bone broth, he'd always talk about chaga mushroom.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was fun.
Chaga mushroom.
You're right.
That is fun.
dan friesen
So, look.
Alex has not done his job.
We're pretty clear on this.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He struggled, and then he swore to God that he was going to reveal it all.
jordan holmes
I'll tell them everything, Lord.
dan friesen
And then he tried twice to record a new commercial, so he didn't have to do it later.
jordan holmes
Why can't I say this?
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
Ashwagandha road.
dan friesen
But there's only one more hour left of the show.
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
We're going to have to do it five more times.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, I don't normally ask Owen Stroyer to let me co-host with him today, but I definitely kind of want the first hour of it, because Paul Watson's coming up next hour.
I've got a huge guest right now.
And I feel like today I've got to get this on record or I may just tape an emergency report after my show today that we then put out and hopefully own with Aaron on his show.
jordan holmes
You're going to try and cut it through his show, aren't you?
alex jones
Everything breaking right now is totally insane.
It came out today.
The Intercept sued and got it.
Very respected investigative journalist group.
Fuck off.
Where Fauci is in hundreds of pages of documents we showed earlier.
I want all these viruses combined into a chimera for a new SARS virus so we can make a vaccine.
Give me five!
But now it's the documents.
dan friesen
Alex is going to need to take an hour of Owen's show because he hasn't covered this news that he has rambled about.
He doesn't know how to cover this, so he can't do it.
jordan holmes
No, he cannot.
dan friesen
It's a fascinating thing where he's unable to do it, but he's Calling out that he hasn't done it, but he has done it as well as he ever covers any other news story, which is just say a headline from Zero Edge and then yell a bit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I think what's going on is The Intercept appears to have way more credibility than all of his other dumb, dumb shit.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Right.
So he knows that he's got to talk about this because it's a big get for his bullshit, right?
dan friesen
It's as close to a get as he's going to get.
jordan holmes
And then he thought, well, I'll just do it like...
I do my other regular bullshit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So he didn't really do any prep for it, and he thought he could just spin a yarn out of it however much he wanted.
And then, because it's actual attempted journalism, it's written very dryly with information, and he doesn't really know how to deal with that.
dan friesen
And the stakes are too high.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because, like, when Zero Hedge or Infowars is reporting that Fauci created a bioweapon or whatever...
It doesn't really rise any alarms when nothing happens.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
No one listens to those sources anyway.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You know, like, even if you're somebody who treats them as if they're actual journalism or reporting, you've gotten used to, like, oh, wow, another cover-up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or whatever.
But, like, The Intercept is at least an outlet that gets some things done.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
And they've done actual cover-up stories where you've been like, holy shit, they were covering it up.
dan friesen
Their name has been attached to some important pieces of journalism.
And the stakes are really high for Alex to pretend that The Intercept is reporting on documents that prove that Fauci created a bioweapon out of like a drop-down menu.
He's like, ooh, a little bit of this coronavirus.
Ooh, a little bit of this.
Add some mustard.
jordan holmes
You know what it is?
Almost like a canker sore, you know?
He doesn't know how to do it.
He doesn't feel like he can do it, but he can't leave it alone.
He just keeps tapping it and going like, maybe I've got it this time and maybe I'll give it a shot.
And then every time it just looks like he's spinning his wheels like an idiot.
dan friesen
Yeah, and what I mean by the stakes being too high is there's no explanation for why, if that is the case, nothing has happened.
Exactly.
Because Snowden.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Because it was founded by a guy before everybody knew he was fucking insane.
dan friesen
But, you know, if you're Alex, you can't really explain, like, this isn't Infowars.
No.
jordan holmes
Hey, guys, this is real.
These people are real.
These people do like what I would do, but sometimes it's real.
I imagine I'm doing what The Intercept was doing.
dan friesen
So now, The Intercept, they have the reporting that they have.
But I will say, to their credit, They wouldn't do this.
alex jones
So, we've got a very special guest who I really wanted to get on.
She really helped expose hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin and all these other great things that people get early.
Basically have 100% treatment rate.
We had Dr. McCullough on yesterday.
It's in mainline news that India created the mutation of Delta.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
When they vaccinated.
So, I mean, the system knows what they're doing.
Dr. Stella Emanuel, MD, is a successful physician with an active practice in Houston, as well as a founder of Firepower Ministries in Katy, Texas.
dan friesen
So Stella Emanuel is one of the doctors who was out promoting hydroxychloroquine as part of that big push last year by that mysterious group, America's Frontline Doctors.
Almost immediately after she appeared in a video endorsing hydroxychloroquine, people began looking into who this doctor was.
They found a gold mine.
In an article in the Daily Beast, Will Sommer reported, quote, she has often claimed that gynecological problems like cysts and endometriosis are in fact caused by people having sex in their dreams with demons and witches.
jordan holmes
So, what would that be?
Incubi or succubi?
dan friesen
It'd be witches.
jordan holmes
Well, it's definitely witches.
dan friesen
From the article, quote, According to Emmanuel, people can tell if they've taken a demonic spirit husband or spirit wife if they have a sex dream about someone they know or a celebrity, wake up aroused, stop getting along with their real-world spouse, lose money, or generally experience any hardship.
Alternately, they could be having a dream sex with a human witch instead of a demon, she posits.
So, you know, she has some ideas.
jordan holmes
I mean, I'm glad that she posited that as opposed to claimed it.
Yeah.
I mean, she is asking a good question.
dan friesen
Also from the article, quote, she alleges alien DNA is currently used in medical treatments and that scientists are cooking up a vaccine to prevent people from being religious.
And despite appearing in Washington, D.C. to lobby Congress on Monday, she has said that the government is run in part not by humans, but by reptilians and other aliens.
jordan holmes
Okay, so here's why I should be in government.
Because I want to write a law that's just like the you gotta go law.
Where it's like, if you're this, you know what?
Live your life, that's fine.
But you gotta go.
dan friesen
We had a pretty good balance going for a while.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like people would go to Roswell and set up a diner there or whatever.
jordan holmes
Just go.
Just go.
Leave us alone.
dan friesen
After Facebook took down videos of her speech from that frontline doctor rally, she replied, quote, Hello, Facebook.
Put back my profile page and videos up or your computers will start crashing till you do.
You are not bigger than God.
I promise you, if my page is not back up, Facebook will be down in Jesus' name.
unidentified
Uh...
jordan holmes
Wow, I did not know she could call upon the power of Jesus.
dan friesen
To take down Facebook.
jordan holmes
Is that in one of her...
Is that her power set?
Okay.
dan friesen
In addition to all this nonsense, she's claimed that scientists have found a gene that makes people religious and they're trying to find a vaccine against it.
She seems to think that magic 8-ball toys are a nefarious plot to make children witches, and she is super, super anti-LGBTQ.
She's, quote, accused gay Americans of practicing, quote, homosexual terrorism.
In the same sermon, she praised a father's decision not to love his transgender son after a gender transition.
Stella Emanuel is not a serious person and has a ton of very seriously fucked up beliefs.
But...
A year ago, she had a video that went viral, so Alex is going to bend over backwards, see if he can squeeze any of that attention that he can get out of her.
unidentified
Cool.
dan friesen
This is a sad booking for both of them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It should be not good.
Not good.
unidentified
Mm-mm.
Mm.
dan friesen
So she believes in demon sex and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, but that's...
Every time I've ever had Morningwood, I've known that I was sleeping with a demon in my dreams, and that's why I am such a happy person.
Has she ever recognized that sleeping with demons in your dreams brings happiness?
dan friesen
Demons are free.
unidentified
So I have...
dan friesen
So, their conversation is not to be believed, and one of the things, it's one of the reasons that I deemed this episode unacceptable, but there is one thing that comes up that's like, well, maybe this explains something.
alex jones
But if putting the genomes of dead babies and dead women with immortal gene lines, bizarre cells that never die in us isn't satanic, I don't know what it is.
If creating deadly spike proteins in us...
That infect us, and now they want to inject our children, then I don't know what satanic's supposed to be.
You know, it means bad.
dan friesen
Is it possible that this whole time, the issue is that Alex has thought that satanic just means that something's bad?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Do you think that maybe he has, like, that level of...
jordan holmes
Satan means bad.
dan friesen
That level of just, like, linguistic...
jordan holmes
Childish morality?
dan friesen
Or just even, like, not understanding terms.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Because satanic doesn't mean bad.
jordan holmes
I mean, if you're asking me whether he understands words, I think we both know the answer to that question.
dan friesen
I lack the words to describe the specific lack of understanding of words that Alex has.
jordan holmes
I mean, because childish doesn't describe it.
You could ask a four-year-old if satanic means bad, and a four-year-old would say, why would we need the word satanic if it's just a longer version of bad?
dan friesen
Yeah, there's other characters and other characteristics that go into satanic.
Anyway, this interview is out there, man.
It is something else.
dr stella immanuel
This is deeper than science.
This is actually deeper than Big Pharma.
This is deeper than them trying to make money.
We're going straight back into Genesis 6. And it's time for us to wake up.
That's just it.
alex jones
And I totally agree.
When you read Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates, they say they're taking control of humanity and creating a new being.
They say that humans are obsolete.
Explain to people, that's what happened in the days of Noah, didn't it?
dr stella immanuel
Yes.
dan friesen
Wow.
Okay.
So, Klaus Schwab and all these people.
Gates, Fauci, all of them together.
They're having this COVID pandemic in order to get the vaccines into people, which will turn them into a completely new thing, not a human anymore.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Which is, I guess, going to cause a stock market crash.
I don't know anymore, but look, this happened back when Noah was around.
jordan holmes
That was my conclusion as well.
I was specifically thinking, man, history repeats itself.
This is exactly what happened to Noah.
As I was thinking about the stock market collapsing, I was like, man...
Noah's gonna need to take two of every currency with him as the world is left behind.
dan friesen
Do we have any reports of any, like, cryptocurrency billionaires trying to build a giant boat?
Because if so, let's take them seriously.
jordan holmes
I have another question.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
How do we reconcile viruses with the Noah story?
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
We don't.
jordan holmes
Fair point.
dan friesen
The Noah story is really more about there being giants.
jordan holmes
Ah, that's probably true.
dan friesen
Didn't you know that?
unidentified
Ah, yes.
dr stella immanuel
In the days of Noah, the sons of God came and slept with the daughters of men, the watchers.
They left their abode, they came and slept with the daughters of men, and they produced a hybrid.
These hybrid, they were violent.
They were blood drinkers.
If you read in Genesis, they talk about the earth was full of violence.
In Genesis 6. But there were also such blood drinkers.
alex jones
And by the way, all the other ancient cultures have this in their text and in their hieroglyphs.
jordan holmes
All the other ancient cultures.
alex jones
That ships landed, these people got off, they had sex with humans, and then they made these psychotic creatures.
dan friesen
Okay.
So apparently we're talking Nephilim here.
We're talking about the giants and angels came down, had sex with human women, and they created hybrids, and that's why it needed a flood.
Yeah.
Oh, boy.
So we're doing that again now, apparently.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
That's what's happening.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, you know, I'm fine with people believing...
dan friesen
I don't think you are.
jordan holmes
God is real.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
But this is exactly like you telling me that Zeus really had sex with people.
dan friesen
As a swan?
jordan holmes
Yeah, and it's like, no.
No, he didn't.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Nope.
No, we didn't.
None of that's true.
dan friesen
I feel like you might be shooting your shot a little bit too early because this is just the beginning of the interview.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Strong no.
Slap in the face.
No.
dan friesen
It sounds to me like you're a naysayer.
jordan holmes
I'm a super huge naysayer.
Are you telling me that people got off of ships and interbred with humans and sacrificed bodies and that's all God's plan?
dan friesen
As a naysayer, I have bad news for you.
Oh boy.
Stella Emanuel is about to pray for you to be quiet.
jordan holmes
No!
dr stella immanuel
There's something I want to tell people today and I want everybody to hear me.
And I just pray that the minds and everybody will open up and they will hear what I'm saying.
And I take authority over every principality, power, ruler of darkness, spiritual wickedness in high places.
Any voice that wants to jam what I'm saying right now, I silence them.
I command them to go to the pit where they belong in the name of Jesus.
Let the prince of the power of the air be silent so that people can hear and people can wake up and they can be free in Jesus' name.
I need to pray that prayer.
alex jones
Amen to that, Doc.
We're going to go to break.
I'm going to try to give you the floor.
jordan holmes
Oh, Doc.
unidentified
I thought he said amen to that, Doc.
dan friesen
I do enjoy the combination of amen to that and Doc.
jordan holmes
Amen to that, Doc.
dan friesen
Apparently, you're going to have to be quiet because you just got sent to the pit.
jordan holmes
Once again, the great senator from Illinois is making the jerk-off motion.
dan friesen
We come back from break.
jordan holmes
Jesus, keep people quiet.
dan friesen
We get an interesting theory presented, and that seems to be that there are inhuman vampires that walk among us that appear to be humans.
jordan holmes
Oh, come on.
Carrie Cassidy told me that forever ago.
dan friesen
Sure.
dr stella immanuel
I think what is going on right now, Alex, is that we have people among us that, I'm just going to say it, and somebody wake up and hear this.
These people we're dealing with, they are not human beings.
We are dealing with an evil seed in the land that are not human, that are bloodthirsty and blood drinkers.
dan friesen
Oh boy.
So we got an evil seed in the land and they're vampires.
Sure.
So a little bit after this, Stella's Skype goes out.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
And Alex takes this opportunity to try and be rational.
jordan holmes
Ooh, did God take her Skype out?
Is retribution for Facebook not putting her page back on?
dan friesen
No, someone probably hacked in the back end or something.
jordan holmes
Damn it.
Oh, okay.
Scalers.
dr stella immanuel
So basically there's an evil seed in the land that is mingled with the seed of men.
When they start talking about mingling with the seed, that is...
alex jones
Again, her Skype broke up.
But I think you need to hear this, folks.
Doc, stay there while it reconnects.
Depending on how you interpret this, here's what I know.
They're demon-possessed.
dan friesen
Ah, yeah.
So, see, this is Alex trying to be, like, the voice of reason.
They're demon-possessed.
jordan holmes
Depending on how you interpret it.
unidentified
Right, right.
dan friesen
I know this might sound a little bit out there, that there's inhuman vampires walking around, but let me credibly...
And responsibly discuss this.
They're demon-possessed.
jordan holmes
Now, obviously, I agree with you.
Everyone is Satanists that disagrees with me.
And they are working for the devil, and they are trying to kill us all.
Now, what you're saying, that might seem a little out there for some people.
These people are just demon-possessed!
Come on!
dan friesen
You really have to recognize that what's going on is there's an interview where the conservative, rational position, the voice of the center is...
Maybe they're just demon-possessed.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
This show sucks.
jordan holmes
We've gone so far.
We've just gone so far.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He spends an hour on this interview instead of covering the Intercept article.
jordan holmes
That's right.
I completely forgot.
Did he try and cut an ad in the middle of this as well?
Excuse me.
I'm sorry, Doc.
This is our favorite new formula.
dan friesen
Might be too strong for demons.
jordan holmes
Agave demons.
dan friesen
So while the Skype is out, Alex is trying to reframe the conversation a little bit, but Stella stays on point.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
She has a point that she wants to make and is not going to be shaken.
alex jones
Are you saying, like, David Icke, is it actually interdimensionally even taking over?
Or are you saying that it's a spiritual, you know, possession?
Because I agree with you.
We're seeing the Satanists come out and say, abortion is our ritual.
We want to kill babies.
Let me ask you this.
Why do you think they're revealing themselves right now?
dr stella immanuel
Alex, you don't understand.
They are not human beings.
This is not Satanists.
This is not human beings that are possessed.
They are not human.
dan friesen
So we have not humans that are walking around.
And she keeps appealing to Bible verses that don't seem to make her point, but it is really funny because Alex can't argue against the Bible.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you just kind of lose whenever people are making it.
You're using your own power against you.
You can't make up quotes from the Bible.
I make up quotes from the Bible.
And if you make them up, I have to go along with you, otherwise I can't make them up anymore.
dan friesen
So this was a little bit tough to understand exactly the point.
It might have been more complicated than the grant documents, quite frankly, to get to the bottom of.
But as it turns out, Stella believes essentially that people are being cloned.
And then these clones are being taken over by the devil or something?
It's a little bit convoluted, but it'll become more clear as we go along.
dr stella immanuel
I'm going to say this because people need to hear this.
We can no longer just tell you guys the fluff because we're worried about, oh, you might not be able to receive it.
Wake up and receive it and listen and read the Bible.
In Revelation 13, he's saying that the devil will deceive human beings to make images onto the beast.
Okay, people like Gates, Houchi, or whatever.
The devil has told them that he will make them live forever.
So they know that if they die, they can make a clone of themselves.
They will download their mind to the internet Absolutely.
alex jones
Microsoft has patents on that right here.
dan friesen
So now Alex is finding some common ground here.
So now the globalists are being told by the devil, right, that they're going to make this clone.
That'll be immortal, and they're going to download their brain into it, right?
Alex is like, alright, I can go with this.
And these clones are not human.
These clones are not human vampires.
jordan holmes
I just don't like listening to all of that and actually hearing in my brain Alex go, I got a handhold here.
I can jump on this.
This spot, we can roll with this spot right here.
dan friesen
Thank God, it was free fall for a minute.
jordan holmes
I was like, oh, at least he's finally going to have to be like, this might be too much for me.
dan friesen
It's really pathetic.
unidentified
Yeah.
dr stella immanuel
hell.
unidentified
Yes, they'll be cloned.
jordan holmes
The Phantom Zone.
dr stella immanuel
But what if you believe in them?
It's a demonic spirit.
And that is why they are so blood thirsty.
Because what is living in these creatures are demonic spirits.
They're not human beings.
So we don't even know whether some of these people that call themselves globalists whether they are still the human beings Oh, the human beings have been killed off, replaced with their clones and their robots that are pure evil.
alex jones
I know that's definitely the future plan.
That's how I interpret Revelation as well.
jordan holmes
Definitely.
dan friesen
Wow.
jordan holmes
That's exactly how I interpreted Revelation.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yep.
The book of Revelations.
Yep.
dan friesen
I mean, the dangerous thought process that she's advancing and that Alex is agreeing with is that, hey, there's really no way to definitively know if, let's say, Bill Gates...
Is a human.
Or if he's a clone that's been taken over by a demon and isn't really even human.
And if he's not human, I mean, he doesn't really have rights.
And you know what?
There's really no way to tell about anybody.
jordan holmes
Well, I think there is a way to tell.
And that's if they're...
Showing signs of demonry.
And if they're showing signs of demonry, well, I think the only person who could possibly tell me exactly who is a Satanist and who is a demon is somebody who's so confident and who's willing to pray for me to just listen to her.
dan friesen
Perhaps somebody who has discernment.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
I think many different people with discernment will have different conclusions, and yet somehow they'll all look like they care about people.
dan friesen
for this because it's going to really piss you off.
Stella discusses how she had a vision of mingled demons and humans and And boy, all of these people have something very specific in common.
dr stella immanuel
Right.
unidentified
But at that time, I had a vision.
dr stella immanuel
And in that vision, I saw human beings walking with people.
It was like human beings and demons walking.
Or you see two or three people walking, and some are human beings and some are other people.
And I've had many students with the Lord have shown me that.
That there are people that are not human among us.
And I was like, what is this all about?
And I've been talking about it and preaching about it for years.
And they say, oh yeah, you're just crazy.
But really, if you go in the Bible, the Bible talks about it.
But here is what the problem is.
how it affects us right now this this human this genetically modified human beings or whatever they are I don't know what are their nephalums or their clones or they are just demonic spirits in containers in human looking containers you should watch a movie called they live because when the Lord gave me this vision the very next day I don't know I was looking for online I found a movie Yeah, man, it's like in the movie They Live.
jordan holmes
It's always a movie.
dan friesen
It's always a movie.
jordan holmes
It's exactly like a movie.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Every single...
It's so consistent.
These people who have these conspiratorial views and bizarre theories that are distinct from reality...
jordan holmes
Ultimately, they just can't tell the difference.
dan friesen
It does seem like that is a very consistent feature.
Thinking that...
jordan holmes
It's just like a movie.
dan friesen
...inability to grasp themes, inability to grasp metaphor...
unidentified
Symbolism.
dan friesen
That kind of stuff is...
I'm becoming more and more convinced that that kind of concrete thinking is kind of...
Not indicative or diagnostic of having this kind of worldview, but it's something that is shared between a lot of folks in what would appear to be separate Branches of conspiracy.
jordan holmes
You know, I mean, we've talked a lot about ways to avoid certain things.
And for me, I think there's a really easy balance between free speech and kind of controlling this angle of propaganda.
And I think it's so simple, really.
And it's just like, you can't call other people not human.
I feel like that's so simple.
And isn't it at the heart of literally every genocide?
The propaganda almost always begins with dividing people into who is real and who's not, who counts and who doesn't, who's a human being and who's inhuman, or subhuman or below human.
And if the only rule was you just cannot go on the radio or on TV and claim that these people are not humans...
dan friesen
Yeah, a lot of the justifications for massive violent campaigns have been predicated on the idea of people being less than human.
Various groups for whatever reason.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, I don't know if that's the only rule I would have, but I certainly would have that as a rule.
jordan holmes
It seems like a really simple thing.
It just really does.
I'm sure I've called somebody inhuman or subhuman or something along those lines.
dan friesen
Or described behavior as that.
There is a difference.
jordan holmes
But even then, I am totally willing to change my communication style because I feel like it's 100% valuable.
dan friesen
And instances where you have behaved that way, I'm sure you'd be willing to apologize for.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely!
I didn't...
Yeah!
dan friesen
Anyway...
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Look...
Globalists think their brains are going to be re-downloaded into bodies, but it's a trick.
dr stella immanuel
What they're doing is they're telling these globalists, all of them, if they are still human, because it is possible that a lot of them have been killed off, and it's their clone just walking around and doing evil.
So we don't know.
So they're telling them that, don't worry, if you die, we're going to clone you, and then we're going to bring back your brain from the Internet of Things and put it up, and you're going to live forever.
So they're trying to depopulate the world so that they can keep the world for themselves.
They are just useful idiots because the devil is not going to give them eternal life.
They're going to die and go to hell.
They will clone them, all right, but what's going to live inside them is a demonic spirit.
And when those clones go around with those demonic spirits inside them, they are so bloodthirsty because they need...
That is why you hear about child sacrifice and now people are dying in the hospitals because these clones have multiplied and they need flesh and blood to live.
dan friesen
They need blood.
jordan holmes
If demons can possess a spirit, Possess a body that hasn't been cloned.
Why would they need to clone the body?
dan friesen
I got a secondary question.
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
What consent is necessary to make a clone?
Like, there's no reason why human Bill Gates would need to be involved in the plan to make a...
Why don't they just kill Bill Gates and make a clone?
Why don't you just have a complete pod people situation?
jordan holmes
Because you have to get their consent.
And even if you're tricking them...
dan friesen
So you have to go along with the plan where you're promised that your brain will go into a clone later, which seems stupid for someone to be like, oh, this is a great plan!
So you trick the smartest and most entrepreneurial minds around into going along with this plan when you could just clone them after they were dead and put a demon in them.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't understand.
This is really dumb.
jordan holmes
No, I think what's fascinating is that all of their devils are exactly, exactly to the T as stupid as they are.
dan friesen
It's true.
jordan holmes
I mean, I would be insulted if I was God because they think my foil is so dumb.
What's the point of even having an arch enemy if he's this stupid?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, you know...
Actually, you know, the example I was going to use, it brings up a very complicated thing.
I was going to say, like, you know, the Harlem Globetrotters play against the Washington Generals because they like to be fancy.
But at the same time, the people who are the Washington Generals have to be very talented to...
jordan holmes
To really do it well.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
To allow those hijinks to happen.
jordan holmes
What's funny to me is that the God-Satan dynamic that they have created in their minds is exactly like Pinky and the Brain.
Like, that is so much what's going on.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, clones need blood.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Need flesh and blood.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And this is actually kind of, I find this idea fairly offensive, and that is that hospital administrators are possibly clones themselves, and that's why people are dying in the hospitals of COVID and stuff, and that's why they won't give people hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, is because they want people to die in the hospitals because they need blood.
dr stella immanuel
It's not just that they are drinking blood to have the fountain of youth.
They actually need it for survivors, just like vampires, because they are not human.
You know what I'm saying?
We need to realize that some of these CEOs in the hospitals that don't want patients to be treated, that want to intubate people and kill them, they are not human.
They want to drink the blood.
alex jones
Listen, that sounds pretty far out, but it's in the Bible.
But let me say this.
unidentified
What?
dr stella immanuel
What the fuck?
jordan holmes
Hey, listen, that sounds pretty far out, and it sounds like it could get some people killed, but it is in the Bible, so go for it.
dan friesen
Hey, and look, according to the Bible, possibly some hospital administrators are clones that just want your blood.
jordan holmes
Hey, if somebody doesn't give you hydrochloroquine, that's probably because the CEO of the hospital is a clone.
dan friesen
And wants your blood.
jordan holmes
And if it's a clone who wants your blood, fuck it, go kill him.
Who gives a shit?
dan friesen
Well, it's either that or they're going to kill you.
jordan holmes
Or they're going to kill you and steal your fucking blood.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ, these people have no real clue how dangerous they fucking are.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's outrageous.
jordan holmes
That's outrageous.
dan friesen
So Stella has made her points, and Alex, as a responsible engager in the public discourse and conversation, he has a responsibility to probably end this interview by saying, A lot of this stuff has been really dumb and also dangerous.
I hope that by having this conversation, my audience has been exposed to these ideas and knows that you're not someone to be taken seriously.
Instead, he says this.
alex jones
So as crazy as this all sounds, whether she's picking up on this psychically discernment of the Holy Spirit in the future or whether it's actually happening now, and a lot of it is, that's how crazy this is.
dan friesen
So, either, you know, things are crazier than we know and she's right, or the Holy Spirit has given her a vision of the future and this is what's coming.
That's not a good way to wrap up the interview.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep, yep.
dan friesen
Pretty irresponsible.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep, yep, yep.
dan friesen
But we're not done.
jordan holmes
I don't see how that's fucking possible.
That lady...
Is nuts.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
That's straight up lunacy.
dan friesen
It's Project Camelot stuff.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's wild.
It's wild.
dan friesen
It's embarrassing.
jordan holmes
I mean, the problem is...
It's exactly as stupid as stuff that you hear from Joe Rogan or whatever.
You just get Nephilim, so you're like, oh, well, giants are involved, so I can just write it off.
If Joe Rogan just said, I took ivermectin because this guy who believes in fucking Nephilim told me it's a good idea, we could all move the fuck on.
dan friesen
It would help.
jordan holmes
It would be easier.
dan friesen
So if there's one thing that could elevate the comedy of this episode...
jordan holmes
It's him doing that fucking...
He's not going to try and cut that out again.
dan friesen
Rule of threes, Alex does not follow.
alex jones
Come on!
dan friesen
No.
He has to get creative and get mad about a random internet comment about an interview he did the day before.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out.
alex jones
I was looking at the interview I did yesterday with Dr. McCullough.
dan friesen
Oh.
alex jones
It was very powerful, and Luke 86 said, and I hear this a lot, he says, I'm done with Alex.
It's been nine years, and I'm done with him.
The virus doesn't exist, and now he's pushing the Delta BS.
Time and time again, he has shown And he still keeps pushing the virus narrative.
Alex is not fixing anything.
He is muddying the waters of truth.
He has changed since Trump.
What has happened to him?
Okay, let's just stop.
Last year, I saw car wrecks, gunshot wounds, people dying of the flu, calling it Delta.
I knew doctors.
I knew scientists.
I talked to them.
We went to hospitals.
They were empty.
I have family that are doctors.
I have family that are nurses.
They say they're totally overwhelmed.
My dad almost died.
My mom almost died.
I felt like a gorilla was on my chest.
Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and the steroids helped me.
Knocked it right out.
I mean, most of our office has had this, and some of them have been out three to four weeks, okay?
So I go off my own observations.
dan friesen
What kind of fucking denial has he been in about the...
The spreading of this virus that he's been actively participating in.
His whole office had COVID.
His parents had COVID.
He's had it multiple times.
I guarantee that there's someone in this chain that's dead that we just don't know about.
There's somebody in this cluster, let's say, that has had a serious complication from their irresponsible handling of this.
This is outrageous.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And also, just for fun, he interviewed Joseph Mercola the day before.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Fun.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
Remember him?
jordan holmes
Great.
I mean, that's just so fucked up beyond...
I mean, I don't know.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's definitely not something that he's been honest about.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Up till fairly recently, all these people who have gotten fucking COVID.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's just so fucked up.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's just so fucked up.
dan friesen
It's also really funny that he's so mad about this internet comment.
jordan holmes
I mean, 35-year-old Luke has a lot to say.
dan friesen
Look, some people on the internet who have usernames, and I have no idea who they are, think I've changed.
I would like to say.
jordan holmes
DickPickFan45 won't stop claiming that I'm not the same person I used to be!
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
So I'm gonna have a real defensive meltdown over it while I tell people all the shit that I did, that I received the consequences for, that I refuse to learn from.
dan friesen
So that's one way to add an extra layer of farce to this episode.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
We have one last clip, because there's another layer of farce.
jordan holmes
Get out of here.
dan friesen
I don't know if you can handle this.
alex jones
Doctor, why don't you lead us in prayer?
Doctor, lead us in prayer for a couple minutes.
dr stella immanuel
Yes, thank you.
Father, in the name of Jesus, I thank you, O God, for our nation.
I thank you for our people.
I thank you, King of Glory, that you are still God, you're still God in heaven, and you're still the creator of the universe.
I take authority over these foul spirits that are trying to destroy humanity, send the angels of power to go through this land and destroy their plans, set confusion among them, expose them in the name of Jesus.
dan friesen
Yeah, so she prays for a while to close things out.
jordan holmes
Ah.
Ah, prayer.
Send in the clowns.
dan friesen
There should be clowns.
I just think we've said a lot over the course of this episode.
There's been a lot discussed.
And I would just like to, as we end, refocus on...
How proud Joe Rogan should be of convincing his audience that Alex has worthwhile things to say and that he's generally right about things.
jordan holmes
You know what?
Sometimes he's wrong, and when he's wrong, he takes responsibility for it.
dan friesen
You know, he's so straight up about that.
Way more than these other people in the media.
jordan holmes
And you know, people judge him for his outbursts, but he comes to me, we talk privately, and he's a good guy.
unidentified
And look, nothing that he's ever said has actually been that crazy.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
Sometimes it sounds crazy.
jordan holmes
You think it's out there.
dan friesen
Yeah, but no.
jordan holmes
But then later on, you see it happen and you know that it's true.
So I gotta get his words out!
dan friesen
Like when you see...
Blood-drinking demon clones wandering hospital hallways.
jordan holmes
Look, if people didn't know that when they go to the hospital, there's a good chance that it's an evil clone possessed by a demonic spirit trying to kill them, well, they might just be going to the hospital thinking that they're gonna get medical care.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't care who's on whose show, and I don't care any of that stuff.
Cancel culture, blah, blah, blah, whatever the fuck.
I don't care about any of that nonsense, but I do want to be clear.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And just the level of, like, look at all these people trying to kill you as they wade through the blood of people that they have infected.
dan friesen
The whole office.
jordan holmes
Like, the whole fucking thing.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I kind of have been reflecting a little bit on, like, what are we doing?
You know, sometimes, because I listen to this stuff and I'm like, what are we doing?
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
dan friesen
I really worry that some people who listen to our show might have the idea that, like, we have any kind of ability to, like, get Alex off air or...
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Heal the damage that he's caused.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't believe that at all.
And I'm coming around to possibly the thing that we can do is present something that can hopefully be a rebuttal to the point of people who think that Alex has something to say.
That's it.
That's the best I can do, is be the countervailing force against that flood of, actually, Alex is right.
No, he's not.
jordan holmes
Unlike Alex, unlike Alex who claims that world leaders listen to him, I can guarantee to every one of our listeners, zero world leaders listen to this podcast.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
No one with any power gives a shit, okay?
dan friesen
A couple of people who are verified on Twitter have...
jordan holmes
That's as close as we get.
And it's not gonna get more powerful.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
So just let it go.
We do what we can do.
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
What's that?
unidentified
Fuck.
jordan holmes
Are we controlled by the devil?
dan friesen
No.
I had huge breaking news.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
What was that?
Did we run out of time?
dan friesen
Look, I prepared too much and we can't get through it.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit!
All these fucking stacks on your desk.
What's the point of them?
That one has an extra sleep aid.
That's a good stack.
We could have talked about that one.
What's inside of it?
dan friesen
Those are my gummy melatonin.
jordan holmes
We're not selling them.
dan friesen
This is my Sriracha stack.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
See, if we'd had time, we would have talked all about the Sriracha.
dan friesen
I will say that I've gotten back into it a little bit.
I haven't had it in a long time.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Going with other hot sauces.
Tried the Sriracha again after a long...
Absence?
jordan holmes
Come back to it?
dan friesen
Missed it.
jordan holmes
Warm blanket.
dan friesen
Yep.
It was really getting old back then.
Take some time away.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Like a fresh breeze.
jordan holmes
Like a fresh breeze.
dan friesen
Anyway, we're done.
jordan holmes
Are you sure you don't want to pray first?
dan friesen
I got lost in thought because I do think it's kind of funny that Stella was kind of praying for you to shut up.
jordan holmes
If only you had prayed for that a long time ago.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
I enjoy you not shutting up.
So we'll be back, Jordan.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
We're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook and Twitter.
And Twitter is at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed, Jordan.
dan friesen
And we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo.
I'm Leo.
I'm DZX Clark.
I'm Daryl Rundis.
steve quayle
And now here comes the sex robots.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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