Today, Dan and Jordan check in to see how Alex Jones follows up having an interview with a guy about what it's like to go to heaven. Apparently the only fitting follow up is talking about Monkeypox and allowing a guest to recommend listeners get really good with a sniper rifle.
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I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| Need money. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding me. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time calling in my future. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight, I'm Dan. | ||
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Jordan! | |
| We're a couple dudes who like to sit around and worship the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
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Jordan! | |
| Jordan! | ||
| Quick question for you. | ||
| Yeah, what up? | ||
| What's your bright spot today? | ||
| My bright spot today, Jordan, is something I... | ||
| Look, I don't know a lot about a lot of things. | ||
| I know a lot about some very specific things. | ||
| I know a lot about Alex Jones. | ||
| You're a specialist, you're not a polymath. | ||
| I'm not a generalist, really. | ||
| There's a lot of things that I'm unaware of. | ||
| And I believe it was on our last episode, I mentioned that I was starting to play a deck-building game. | ||
| Yes, indeed you were. | ||
| And the audience reached out and said, boy, you should try Magic the Gathering, because there's a way you can play it on a computer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which I didn't know. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| I was unaware of that. | ||
| Yeah, me too. | ||
| I didn't know that thing existed. | ||
| And I started... | ||
| I gave it a try. | ||
| And goodbye. | ||
| Yep, you roped me into this shit too, you dickwad. | ||
| It's been a couple days of dabbling around on it. | ||
| I don't really know what I'm doing exactly yet. | ||
| I wasn't allowed to play when I was a kid because it was demonic. | ||
| But it's scratching a lot of itches. | ||
| It's scratching a lot of itches of the... | ||
| Card collecting, the sort of bizarre magical things. | ||
| Of course, of course. | ||
| Byzantine rules? | ||
| You love Byzantine rules. | ||
| It's basically like logic puzzles. | ||
| Yes, it is. | ||
| In a game form, because there's so many conditional things about, like, you can only play this if and only if these conditions are met. | ||
| Yeah, it does tickle that a little bit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then also, like, there are creatures like owlbears. | ||
| Yes, of course. | ||
| What the fuck is an owlbear? | ||
| It's like a... | ||
| If chess had more imagination and you didn't know what the other player had whenever you started. | ||
| Yeah, and it also is really making me feel a little bit of like this reclaimed stuff from when I was younger. | ||
| This stuff that I wasn't allowed to play. | ||
| And, you know, it makes me realize that I was also the one who decided to accept that rule when I was younger. | ||
| You know, my parents said I couldn't play it, but I could have been more rebellious and gone into this. | ||
| And I kind of, you know, playing it now, I kind of wish I had. | ||
| And it's really cool that it can be online. | ||
| Yeah, that could be real trouble. | ||
| Considering the number of Magic the Gathering cards there are, if you got too into it, this whole place would be fucked. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| Yeah, so I'm enjoying it quite a bit. | ||
| I'm trying to keep an even keel on it so I don't lose myself into the world of playing that. | ||
| I'm struggling. | ||
| We played one match after I tried to make through, and you murdered me so bad that now I'm like, in the back of my head, I'm like, don't get too into it. | ||
| It's not that big a deal. | ||
| But there's a part of me that's like, the next time you play Dan, you better beat the shit out of him, or your dad's never gonna love you. | ||
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I'm never gonna play you again, just so you can't ever get that win back. | |
| Just so my dad will never appreciate me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But yeah, it's great, and I appreciate the people who recommended that. | ||
| To basically inform me that it exists. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Because I had no idea. | ||
| Well done. | ||
| What's your bright spot? | ||
| My bright spot, it could be, I could go with that because I, of course, have begun dabbling as well. | ||
| But instead, I am going to go with the underspoken about album that has just been released that's very good, is Churches. | ||
| Churches' new album, fantastic. | ||
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Oh, that's great. | |
| Very, very good. | ||
| I'll have to check that out. | ||
| I do like them quite a bit. | ||
| Yeah, a couple of standouts, and then you got Robert Smith guesting. | ||
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What? | |
| Being a sad boy for... | ||
| Yeah, synths and sad boys. | ||
| That's what you should have named the album. | ||
| Synth and sad boy summer. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| That's what we're doing now. | ||
| Also, while we're on the topic of new albums, our boy I9, the rapper I9, has a new album called A Little Above Low Key that's out that I enjoy quite a bit. | ||
| Yeah, I enjoyed it a lot. | ||
| I haven't had a chance to listen to it enough to fully digest and have strong opinions, but I enjoyed it. | ||
| And people should go check that out. | ||
| It's available on... | ||
| iTunes. | ||
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Spotify. | |
| Go find i9. | ||
| All over the place. | ||
| Go find him. | ||
| Go find him! | ||
| So, Jordan, today we have an episode where we're going to go back into the past again. | ||
| We're back in 2003 again. | ||
| And part of the reason is I just need to put Alex on timeout. | ||
| And while I was doing that... | ||
| I felt like I was falling down a mountain, or a staircase, where I was hitting a stair over and over, just constantly thump, thump, thump, thump. | ||
| Trying to prepare this episode was not super fun. | ||
| Look, honest to God, I didn't sign up to do an anti-vax podcast. | ||
| That is the one thing that I really didn't want this podcast to be. | ||
| I didn't sign up when we started doing this show to talk about bizarre and stupid conspiracies about vaccination every single go-around. | ||
| Otherwise, I would have started a podcast about Robert Kennedy Jr. or something. | ||
| A lot of present-day stuff is a bummer. | ||
| I was trying to find anything that could be another angle. | ||
| I came up with a pretty decent angle that I thought would be Teachable and interesting. | ||
| And that is to go over an episode of somebody else talking about Alex. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
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Okay. | |
| All right. | ||
| The ways that you can highlight... | ||
| Unawareness that other people have when they comment on Alex. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| You can see the transparent ways in which they've fallen for the tricks that Alex employs. | ||
| This is an evolution of our How Not to Cover Alex Jones series. | ||
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Gotcha. | |
| Yes. | ||
| And so I wanted to do that. | ||
| I put a bit of time into preparing something, and then I just couldn't get over the hurdle of feeling like... | ||
| I'm being a huge asshole to these people. | ||
| It does really feel like before you even said it, I was like, oh no, we're going to be dicks to these people. | ||
| I don't want to be mean. | ||
| It's kind of impossible to do that without putting a specific... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Who maybe is certainly a small YouTube channel. | ||
| Who are we to give you a performance review? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I think that there are things that you can learn from it, and I think I need to find a better way to present that information that doesn't involve kicking some small YouTube channel. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Because it just feels dirty and gross. | ||
| We gotta do some blind quotes or something. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So that was a time sink for me. | ||
| And then, of course, all my efforts and everything get interrupted by Joe Rogan getting fucking COVID. | ||
| What a fucking idiot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex is pretty thrilled that Joe Rogan got COVID and he cured himself with ivermectin. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds about like how it went. | ||
| I think that people are really missing the forest for the trees on that story when they're reporting that he took ivermectin because he says a laundry list of things he took. | ||
| He said he threw the kitchen sink at him. | ||
| He took Z-Pak, the monoclonal antibodies, all sorts of prednisone. | ||
| So he was taking tons and tons of stuff. | ||
| So let's say that any of that helped. | ||
| That's not proof that the ivermectin helped at all. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I think that's the fun thing about science, is that you can't draw a conclusion unless you have isolated the variables. | ||
| If they were going to do a study and they were like, let's just give this group a bunch of shit, and then let's give this group a bunch of different shit, that would not have learned anything from that. | ||
| No, it would just be two different groups of shit. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| We can maybe make some wild speculation about these different piles of shit we give these people. | ||
| It looks like this pile of shit is better than that pile of shit. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But maybe when we do it again, it'll just be a different pile of shit. | ||
| Well, and you know, so he's saying he took all this stuff, and one of the things was ivermectin. | ||
| And it just made me think of like, okay, yeah. | ||
| I had an infection, so I took some antibiotics and also ate gummy bears. | ||
| And so the gummy bears probably cured you. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds about right. | ||
| So, I don't know. | ||
| See, now this is why, what we missed was a real opportunity to find out if hallucinogenics would cure COVID. | ||
| That's our control experiment for this. | ||
| If Joe Rogan gets COVID, he doesn't get to take any regular medication. | ||
| He doesn't get any regular treatment. | ||
| Just shrooms. | ||
| That's what he's for. | ||
| Isolating the variables. | ||
| If only he had a commitment to the public health and to science. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's what we're here for. | ||
| But I will say that when I was, you know, Trying to prepare an episode, and I see a headline, Joe Rogan has COVID, I thought, woohoo! | ||
| Help! | ||
| There we go! | ||
| Didn't see this coming. | ||
| That's today. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| So, I'm sure they'll learn a lot from this, and everything will be fine. | ||
| And I have no interest in this. | ||
| The most sarcastic and devastating thing you can say to somebody now is dismissing them by just saying, I'm sure they'll learn about this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's not happening. | ||
| I'm sure next time this will go a lot smoother. | ||
| This will be a lesson. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| And so all this world together and we are left with... | ||
| June 12, 2003. | ||
| I like June 12, 2003. | ||
| And as you may recall, on our last episode in 2003, Alex interviewed a guy who went to heaven. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That is the day before this. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| So now he's back to being real serious. | ||
| The day before the day we're about to speak of, we had a very serious, calm, and just... | ||
| Honest discussion about what was in the waiting room to heaven. | ||
| Yes, and Alex allowed a guest to discuss how it's your snitch of an imaginary friend that you had from childhood, and he did not push back on this at all. | ||
| Now, so that means that I'm assuming that today I will be taking him very seriously when he complains that the Ba 'ath Party is still in charge of Iraq, correct? | ||
| I will say that there are no updates on the Ba 'ath Party. | ||
| Things are going exactly as they have been on that front. | ||
| But before we get down to business on this, let's take a little moment to say thanks and hello to some wonks. | ||
| Oh, that's a great idea. | ||
| So first, Reverend Dr. Rowdy Karsik, thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much, RDRC! | ||
| K. K. Thank you. | ||
| Knowledge Fights opening arguments have me tuckered out. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you very much! | ||
| Next, Andrew, fake last name. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thanks, Andrew! | ||
| Next, Liz is not a policy wonk, but she plays one on Patreon. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You're now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| No, you play one. | ||
| Okay, thank you, Liz. | ||
| And we got a technocrat out there to say what up to. | ||
| So Ross D, thank you so much. | ||
| You and I are a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Crikey, mate. | ||
| That's fantastic. | ||
| Have yourself a brew. | ||
| How's your 401k doing, bro? | ||
| All right, we got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson, all right? | ||
| Let's just get down to business. | ||
| We ain't making that money off that heroin. | ||
| Why are you pimp so good? | ||
| My neck is freakishly large. | ||
| I declare Infowar on you. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| Also, I'd like to welcome to the family of Selene. | ||
| On behalf of Matthew, I brought a tree kangaroo into the mix. | ||
| A tree kangaroo! | ||
| I did not even know that was a type of kangaroo. | ||
| Are they in the tree, or is it a type of tree? | ||
| Depends on if it's the animal or the magic card. | ||
| That's a tree guru. | ||
| Completely different. | ||
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Yes. | |
| So, like I said, we're starting here on the day after Alex talks about going to heaven. | ||
| All right. | ||
| And, I mean, I guess he's gotten back to Earth now. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| U.S. can't rule out North Korean strike, Rumsfeld. | ||
| Advisor says, this from Reuters, they say that, yes, we leaked the battle plan two months ago to invade... | ||
| North Korea this October. | ||
| My, this is an underreported story. | ||
| Preparing massing troops, pulling them back from the border with North Korea. | ||
| Massing ships and aircraft carriers and aircraft. | ||
| We'll be discussing this when we get back in the next segment. | ||
| See, Alex is pretty preoccupied with the idea that we're going to go start a fight with North Korea at this point. | ||
| He's saying that this leaking of the battle plan is an attempt to get them to attack us so we can have a war with them. | ||
| I'd like to point out that none of this ended up happening. | ||
| It didn't wind up happening. | ||
| No, it didn't. | ||
| No. | ||
| But that was the plan. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I think that there's a decent chance that because Alex covered it on his show... | ||
| He averted this from happening. | ||
| I mean, I didn't hear anybody else talking about it at the time, so I can safely assume that none of them stopped it by talking about it. | ||
| Yeah, it had to have been all Alex is doing. | ||
| It had to have been just him. | ||
| He saved the world once again. | ||
| Just him by himself. | ||
| So this is a little bit, you know, I guess fear-mongery, a little bit putting more into the idea that we're going to go to war in North Korea than is actually there. | ||
| Scaring the audience a little. | ||
| But at least it's on Earth. | ||
| I mean, this is the problem about when you introduce somebody who has been to heaven and then the next day you're talking about war with North Korea. | ||
| All I want to know is what does my imaginary friend think about war with North Korea? | ||
| Because he's the one who's going to be keeping track of how I failed whenever I go to heaven. | ||
| Why are we talking about him? | ||
| I think your imaginary friend is against it. | ||
| Well, then I can't go to... | ||
| I guess you can. | ||
| I also think that there's a big difference between someone being like, we're going to war, and someone saying all options are on the table. | ||
| And when it's like Rumsfeld's assistant or whatever saying that, it's like, I don't know if this is an underreported story. | ||
| I think the fact that anybody has reported on it means it's a... | ||
| Correctly reported story. | ||
| So we got, on the last time too, along with Heaven, we got a little dose of monkeypox. | ||
| Yes, we did. | ||
| And this is a preoccupation of Alex's. | ||
| Okay, so monkeypox stays. | ||
| Heaven goes, but monkeypox stays. | ||
| He talks about monkeypox so much. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And you knew this was going to happen. | ||
| I said this on Monday with the monkeypox. | ||
| I said, watch, they're going to claim that the smallpox shot. | ||
| We'll help you with the monkeypox, and they couldn't get the public to take it. | ||
| 99% plus of the medical workers, firemen, police officers refused the smallpox shot, but now they say monkeypox might spread everywhere. | ||
| It's now up to 60-something cases, and, well, you just might have to have that smallpox shot after all. | ||
| So there was no attempt or initiation or program launched to try and get the general public vaccinated for smallpox in response to monkeypox. | ||
| They should have used Jeff Foxworthy because... | ||
| Monkey Foxworthy? | ||
| Well, that's not bad. | ||
| Well, you just might need a vaccine shot. | ||
| Yeah, if your warning is like, hey... | ||
| Have you been around anybody with monkeypox recently or an infected animal? | ||
| Then get a vaccine. | ||
| If not, you're fine. | ||
| Keep going. | ||
| Keep going about your day! | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That's not scaremongering. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| That's just like regular... | ||
| Hey! | ||
| Hey! | ||
| There's a flood around if you're nearby where the flood is happening. | ||
| You gotta stay aware. | ||
| You gotta stay aware. | ||
| Yeah, it's doing the least that you can to help people make good choices. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So... | ||
| Alex has said this narrative, the beginning of it is the 99.999% of folks rejected the smallpox vaccine. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And that's why they needed to do the SARS and they needed to do the monkeypox in order to scare people in order to get this vaccine. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Presumably, which would then kill them or something. | ||
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I suppose. | |
| I guess. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Same thing he's doing with the COVID vaccine now, but just transplanted in the past. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| History repeats itself. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And one of the interesting things that I've learned on this episode, Is that Alex has made up that stat. | ||
| That sounds right. | ||
| I know I talk about this a lot because it's such good news that in Connecticut, one article talked about they ordered 20,000 health care workers and police to show up to get shots in a two-day period. | ||
| Four people showed up. | ||
| So, again, I haven't done the specific math, but if you've got 20,000 people and four people show up to get the shot in one state, Connecticut, I mean, that's 99.999 something. | ||
| If you've got the ten largest cities with millions they wanted to vaccinate, with the medical workers, the firemen, the police, millions of people in the ten largest cities, well, they refused. | ||
| 296 did it. | ||
| So, somebody can calculate the math on this. | ||
| This is not how stats work, and all Alex is saying is that he made up that number that he cites as the rate of vaccine refusal. | ||
| Yep, 100%. | ||
| Again, this was only a plan to vaccinate a total of a million people, half of whom were in the military and the other half who were frontline workers like at hospitals and such. | ||
| Over 500,000 soldiers did get vaccinated, but in terms of civilians, only 39,213 got the vax. | ||
| Wait, 500,000 military members got the vaccine? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, well, then everything that Alex said is pointless and stupid, right? | ||
| They're fine. | ||
| They all got the vaccine. | ||
| They're all fine. | ||
| So why is he saying all this other shit? | ||
| There was 500,000 people who got the vaccine. | ||
| That 99.99% answer doesn't make any sense because half of them got it. | ||
| No, I know, but if you just read a local news article out of Connecticut and you see that there was low turnout at one place and then you try and do that math, you just use that. | ||
| Fraction, that percentage. | ||
| If in the next five years everybody dies of monkeypox, I'm going to be real mad at the military. | ||
| I think the odds of that are low. | ||
| So yeah, look, the thing you need to understand about the world and information... | ||
| Please tell me there's so much. | ||
| Well, here's the thing. | ||
| Everything that you hear about, you only hear about because the globalists want you to hear about it. | ||
| Oh, that's scary information to know. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| If they didn't want you to know about the monkeypox outbreak, you'd never know about it. | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| Why am I bringing this up with monkeypox and all the rest of this? | ||
| If the Centers for Disease Control doesn't want you to know about an outbreak... | ||
| You won't know about it. | ||
| It'll be in a medical journal a year later. | ||
| Okay, that's what the gatekeepers, the editors, and people do. | ||
| They get calls all the time and get told to shut up, to not talk to the press. | ||
| The AMA will call people. | ||
| The Board of Directors of Hospitals and all the federal people are going to call. | ||
| If they didn't want you to know about this monkeypox, you wouldn't know about it. | ||
| They're doing this to fearmonger and saying maybe everybody needs to take... | ||
| The smallpox shot so they'll be safe. | ||
| Because if they don't want you to know about something, you won't. | ||
| I just think that this is a dumb way to engage with information. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Everything that they tell you is curated and it must be deceit. | ||
| I suppose that's an easier conclusion in 2003. | ||
| It's not the monoculture. | ||
| It's not like you've only got the four channels or whatever. | ||
| But now, if somebody said that the only information you get is curated, you'd be like, dude... | ||
| I got information coming from everywhere always, all the time, and it doesn't matter. | ||
| Joe Rogan has COVID. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| It's coming from everywhere. | ||
| It doesn't matter if it's true or if it's false. | ||
| If they want me to know, if they don't want me to know, it's all of it. | ||
| But I think that some of that was true in 2003, too. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| I mean, the internet was obviously not as bad as it is now, but there were elements of that. | ||
| And I think that if you're just going to say that... | ||
| Even with just the news channels, the mainstream legacy news channels, if you want to say that everything that they are covering ever is highly curated because it's what they want you to be aware of or whatever, that's just a lazy way of abdicating your responsibility to engage with news and figure out what... | ||
| Because, yeah, sure, there are some things that are probably like sponsor content or whatever, but you can have a responsibility to dig through and figure out what's what. | ||
| Yeah, and it's also a good way of saying... | ||
| You can only trust me. | ||
| Never trust anyone else ever about anything, especially if they tell you not to trust me because, again, I'm the only person you can trust. | ||
| They're lying to you. | ||
| So if they point out all of these things that I lied or that I didn't actually know anybody who went to heaven, all of that bullshit, you know you can't trust them. | ||
| That's what they want you to know. | ||
| And what I want you to know is not that. | ||
| It's different things. | ||
| It's that Craig went to heaven. | ||
| That's why they're going to shut me down. | ||
| And I need your money. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| My imaginary friend is broke. | ||
| I think I got that one. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| My imaginary friend's imaginary car is a blue fuse. | ||
| I would love to pay him back, but I owe him 20 bucks. | ||
| So, man, we're all screwed here. | ||
| It's just a mountain of debt. | ||
| He's got an imaginary loan shark he's got to deal with. | ||
| It's brutal. | ||
| That guy's not who you want to see in heaven. | ||
| The imaginary loan shark. | ||
| You do not want to fuck with that man. | ||
| If a loan shark made it into heaven, he's too good. | ||
| Well, like, loan sharks are somebody's friend. | ||
| So imaginary loan sharks must be somebody's imaginary friend. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| You know? | ||
| That's true. | ||
| It's a real sad day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a real sad day-to-day life of the imaginary loan shark friend. | ||
| But what if, like, you're a child in the mafia or something like that? | ||
| You might have an imaginary loan shark friend. | ||
| Yeah, because when you're a kid, you look up to your father. | ||
| It doesn't matter if your father is a brutal loan shark running protection rackets. | ||
| That's not what's important. | ||
| What's important is that he's your dad. | ||
| So, I think we have some bad predictions so far. | ||
| Monkey Pock seems like a much bigger deal to Alex than the rest of the world. | ||
| True. | ||
| Somehow he's thinking that's going to be used to give everyone smallpox vaccines, which it's not. | ||
| Yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| The nuclear war with North Korea thing is... | ||
| Any moment now. | ||
| Yeah, so also apparently the draft is coming back. | ||
| Also, Mr. Rumsfeld says that he wants to go ahead and invade Iran and wants to have a preemptive strike on North Korea. | ||
| And, yes, they've got a national draft lined up for you and your family, and you'll be all for it after the globalists launch a couple more terrorist attacks to get you all prepared for that so they can pose as your savior during that process. | ||
| That was really condescending for something that is totally not accurate. | ||
| Love that smug tone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Shout out to everybody who thinks Alex is right about everything. | ||
| So Alex takes some calls. | ||
| On this episode, nobody has been to heaven. | ||
| I will say that. | ||
| But Alex does have Aaron Zellman, the guy who runs Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| The more extreme version of the NRA that Alex supports at this point. | ||
| He's quite anti-NRA in 2003, but he's in favor of this organization and then Gun Owners of America. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But before Aaron Zellman shows up, Alex takes a call. | ||
| And, man, this call is so funny in 2021. | ||
| Larry, you're on the air. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
|
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Alex, I heard you talking about, oh, with Craig Roberts yesterday, and I think that was a very good topic, even though some might consider that ethereal. | |
| It's important to know that you do have to do something, even if the odds look like they're against you. | ||
| The way I read the Bible, you know, we may not win this, especially if we don't wake up... | ||
| Enough people up, but you've got to know that even though the odds are against you, you've still got to defend your family. | ||
| You still have to try because you are going to answer for what you do. | ||
| I also wanted to thank you for staying pretty much on topic. | ||
| What? | ||
| There's a lot of hosts that are letting topics of aliens and a million Chinese robotoids come across the air. | ||
| It's important to maintain credibility and not let... | ||
| Patriots look like idiots through these kind of topics that are getting out. | ||
| Well, that's done to discredit wider topics. | ||
| They'll mix things in that can't be proven. | ||
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That's it. | |
| I want to thank you. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| They'll mix in things that can't be proven, like your imaginary friend is waiting for you to snitch when you get to heaven. | ||
| Man, that clip really fucks me up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know who's... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe I'm dumb. | ||
| Maybe I'm dumb listening to that clip because they won. | ||
| Well, I think it's a powerful delusion that's being mutually reinforced. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that clip is funny the day after he talks to someone who went to heaven. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then it's also funny considering where he's become. | ||
| Like, the type of shit that Alex covers now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, he, in the past, would look at his show. | ||
| Like, if you modulated the voice of Alex's show in the present day so he couldn't tell it was him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You might not even be able to tell his voice. | ||
| His voice is a bit different. | ||
| But whatever. | ||
| You can put it through some sort of a pitch adjuster. | ||
| You play it for him. | ||
| He'd be like, this person's trying to make the Patriots look terrible. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| He would hate himself. | ||
| 100% would be like, this guy is fucking killing the movement. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Destroying it. | ||
| Alex in the present would be the perfect foil for Alex in the past. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, I feel like Alex in the present would have a pretty unbeatable argument, which is just like, look at how stupid that guy is. | ||
| What he was saying is, tone it down so you can be credible in the real world. | ||
| What won was going as far and as hard and as loud as humanly possible. | ||
| That does seem to be true. | ||
| I feel like maybe that guy's an idiot. | ||
| I mean, I know he's an idiot. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| I know he's still an idiot. | ||
| I was looking in the mirror when I said that. | ||
| I think I might be the dumb one here. | ||
| It's strange. | ||
| It's really strange. | ||
| Because it seems like he's making a really reasonable point. | ||
| But that's a point that Alex makes about what he was trying to differentiate himself from David Icke. | ||
| That's what he would say about him back in the day. | ||
| And now they're best friends. | ||
| Sort of. | ||
| I guess it's just a timing thing. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Go crazy at the right time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Don't be David Icke and go crazy too soon. | ||
| When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| As Hunter S. Thompson said. | ||
| That's what you gotta do. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And when Trump is running for president, the going is getting weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When he wins, it's all over. | ||
| So Aaron Zellman comes in, and I don't know, in as much as somebody just wants people to be allowed to own guns, fine. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But he troubles me in other ways. | ||
|
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Well, my advice to Americans, frankly, is that you're not going to be able to stop this. | |
| You're going to have to fight it. | ||
| And my advice to Americans is to master long-range rifles. | ||
| I hope I don't have to peel that onion anymore for people. | ||
| But that's about the last thought they're going to have, is mastering the use of a long-range rifle. | ||
| You can take your AK-47 and throw it in the fireplace. | ||
| It's going to be useless. | ||
| You've got to learn how to master long-range rifles because you're going to have to deal with it on that level if this cancer spreads. | ||
| On that level? | ||
|
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It's so severe that we have no choice. | |
| Holy shit. | ||
| On that level? | ||
| So yeah, Aaron Zellman's coming in and he's like, hey guys, learn to fucking use a sniper rifle. | ||
| Hey, if this goes south, you're gonna have to be on a rooftop shooting everybody. | ||
| Frankly, why are you even saying sniper rifle? | ||
| You don't need a scope. | ||
| You need extra ammo. | ||
| Yeah, that's upsetting. | ||
| Yeah, that's not great. | ||
| I do think that there's a little bit of a showing your cards a tiny bit when you say... | ||
| I hope I don't have to peel that onion anymore. | ||
| If I say what I think, they'll think I'm going to commit a crime. | ||
| All I really want is to imply heavily that everyone else should commit a crime. | ||
| I'm not going to do it. | ||
| It's about implying. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| Come on! | ||
| You gotta get capable with a sniper rifle. | ||
| And part of the reason is because everybody's out of control. | ||
| The state is out of control. | ||
| What does a fucking society look like if everybody's good with a sniper? | ||
| How do you go into a fucking store if somebody's got a bead on you? | ||
| I know it would be really dangerous to use Instacart. | ||
| Your shit's not going to show up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I guess then, like, elaborate body armor suits might become more popular. | ||
| Yeah, it would have to be, it would turn into a defensive arms race again. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| We'd get mechs. | ||
| It would turn anime instantaneously. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| Or, conversely, underground tunnels. | ||
| Ooh, I do like a good underground tunnel. | ||
| We might become the Morlocks, if Alex and his buddies... | ||
| Wait, we're gonna become the Morlocks because they get the long rifles? | ||
| I mean... | ||
| You gotta do something. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a good rewriting of the time machine. | ||
| So, look, there's a reason for getting into sniping, and it's because, like I said, the state and the government are out of control, as evidenced by this third-hand story that Aaron Zellman wants to tell. | ||
|
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This morning I was talking to somebody who lives in the New York area, and they said that someone was leaning on a fire hydrant the other day, and they got a ticket for loitering. | |
| I mean, I wasn't there, I didn't see it, but I just have to assume the person is telling me exactly what happened. | ||
| But this is almost the situation. | ||
| Let's just see how far we can push the envelope. | ||
| Is this the best example you have? | ||
| I mean, listen, I think it's bullshit. | ||
| Criminalizing just hanging around is a good way to destroy the poor. | ||
| That's what you do. | ||
| I don't disagree. | ||
| Is this evidence everybody needs a long rifle? | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| I also don't know if this story happened as it's being told. | ||
| The loitering charge may have been related to something else that happened. | ||
| It might have been an incident. | ||
|
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Who knows? | |
| It could be completely made up by this person that Aaron Zellman was talking to. | ||
| There's a hundred... | ||
| Why are you even bringing this up? | ||
| Why does this... | ||
| There we go. | ||
| This is so dumb. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Now, see, again, I think it's wrong, and I'm sure, regardless of whether or not this story is exactly true, let's go with, I mean, if you were not a racist, you might just go with the stop-and-frisk policy. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Instead of even bothering with a third-hand story from some asshole who doesn't know any details. | ||
| Who may have been loitering, and you have to admit, I just have to take their word for it. | ||
| I don't know what happened. | ||
| We've got data backing up Stop and Frisk being wrong. | ||
| How impactful does Aaron Zellman expect something like that to be? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, is it really... | ||
| I am not convinced that the government is out of control based on this story. | ||
| Now imagine this, right? | ||
| So you are hanging out on a hydrant and a cop comes up to you and he's like, hey, you can't loiter here. | ||
| And you're like, no, I can absolutely loiter here. | ||
| And he gives you a ticket, right? | ||
| Your long rifle's not gonna do much in that situation. | ||
| You don't have the speed. | ||
| It's too close. | ||
| What's the point of a long rifle if this is your example of how we have to fight back against tyranny? | ||
| It's true. | ||
| You would have snub-nosed for this type of problem. | ||
| One time I was skateboarding around and I jumped up onto a hydrant and I spun around like just a wee, like a top on it and a cop punched me. | ||
| And I fell over. | ||
| The police are out of control. | ||
| They are out of control. | ||
| This was in a video game. | ||
| This was in Tony Hawk. | ||
| I think that's a good call. | ||
| I'm going to tell Aaron Zellman about it and he's going to tell Alex. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| So yeah, Alex has this thought about the drug war. | ||
| More long rifles? | ||
| Plenty of them. | ||
| The more I learn about Alex's positions, about things that I, in theory, thought I agreed with him about, the more convinced I am that I don't really actually agree with him that much. | ||
| And the drug war and legalization of drugs, I think, is one of them. | ||
| Lawdom opium was sold by the bottle at drugstores, and you had less drug abuse then than you do today. | ||
| They ship it in, make it illegal, to jack the prices up. | ||
| It then gives it a fashionable look for low-level drug dealers, and your daughters become crack whores. | ||
| We must decriminalize now. | ||
| That's what I have to say about the drug war. | ||
| I don't feel like I agree with him, and I don't feel like this is the way I understood his position. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I would say the reason that I, the place I've come to with never agreeing with Alex about anything, about anything ever, is because no matter what it is his position is, What I know now is that all of his positions have conditions that can change on his whim and only his whim. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| So whatever it is he thinks his position is or is presenting his position as, given the opportunity to do something about it, he would change the conditions to whatever it is he wanted them to be, and it'd be bullshit. | ||
| Yeah, I think you're right on that count. | ||
| I think that decriminalization is something that's really important because many drug issues should be dealt with as medical issues. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This is something that's not necessarily a punitive approach. | ||
| I don't know if it has the best chance for helping people. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I suppose what it has the best chance of doing is... | ||
| Creating more slaves for California to use to fight their fires. | ||
| And I don't know if a primary motivation for wanting drug legalization to happen is because the globalists make money on drugs. | ||
| That, to me, is empty. | ||
| That one's a little bit meaningless. | ||
| That's what happens when you reduce everything down to capital, isn't it? | ||
| The wrong people. | ||
| I need to choose as a consumer. | ||
| To not let all of these millions of people get fucked over forever. | ||
| But that's only because the wrong people make money off of it. | ||
| If I was making money off of the drug war, yeah, of course we're having the drug war. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| So there's a caller that calls in, and he wants to know why Aaron Zellman is telling people that they need to get sniper rifles. | ||
|
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I do too. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| This made me really... | ||
| Unpeel this onion, sir. | ||
| This made me so uncomfortable. | ||
|
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Yeah, Aaron, I was wondering, why would you recommend being able to shoot long range? | |
| Do you know about the weapons that we're going to be facing? | ||
| Well, that's part of it. | ||
| You know, you want to be as far away from the enemy as you can. | ||
| Can you tell me why? | ||
| Sir, I think you know why from history. | ||
| Thanks for the call, Tom. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| Sir, we're not going to say go kill people, sir. | ||
| You know that's what we mean. | ||
| You'd know that the answer is you can't get close to high-profile people that we would want you to target. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| The quote-unquote globalists. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's fucked up. | ||
| I mean, what he might as well have said is, you think Kennedy's getting his head blown off with a short rifle? | ||
| Seems unlikely. | ||
| Alex later then goes on to be like, you know, obviously what Zelman's talking about is Chinese troops landing in a land invasion. | ||
|
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Sure! | |
| A sniper rifle would not be helpful against a land invasion. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| All right. | ||
| China is storming our beaches. | ||
| What are we going to do? | ||
| All right. | ||
| We're going to line the border with 10 million people with sniper rifles. | ||
| Fire whenever you feel like it. | ||
| Good strategy, Zillman. | ||
|
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Let's go back to the Revolutionary War. | |
| So I feel like, in the same way I've become a little bit disillusioned with Alex's... | ||
| What would seem to be an agreement in terms of drug policy, I feel like I've also become disabused of the notion that he and I actually agreed about Bush either. | ||
| I think that he was using George Bush as a bit of a political tool. | ||
| Well, by not being a hypocrite and exposing the corruption of Bush, liberals tune in, they get converted to being constitutionalists, and they go out and buy guns. | ||
| And realize the New World Order scam. | ||
| Have you found that we're able to deprogram liberals to understand if we're just honest and aren't hypocritical and we'll expose the corruption of the Republicans as well? | ||
|
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Well, I think it goes hand in hand. | |
| I don't know if you're going to reprogram anybody, but I think they begin to take a different look at you and become more tolerant. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Aaron Zellman, Godspeed and take care, my friend. | ||
|
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Okay, you too, Alex. | |
| We'll see you, buddy. | ||
| We'll see you, buddy. | ||
|
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Yeah! | |
| So it's only the liberals that need deprogramming. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And you're able to achieve this by appearing sane, by criticizing Bush. | ||
| So what you're doing is essentially trying to gain credibility for your extreme right-wing positions. | ||
| By throwing the middle right under the bus. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's what you're doing. | ||
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Right. | |
| You're trying to appeal and seem reasonable. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, that's what he's doing now with the big box churches kind of thing, you know? | ||
| He's throwing the... | ||
| Mainstream Christianity. | ||
| The glitter bug churches. | ||
| The glitter bug churches. | ||
| Throwing them under the... | ||
| Look, that kind of bullshit, that's not Christianity. | ||
|
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Uh-huh. | |
| Yeah, you guys believe in all this nonsense. | ||
| We're waking up all these liberal Christians to killing everybody we don't like. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| Yeah, it just seems like an intentional strategy. | ||
| Yeah, it is absolutely an intentional strategy. | ||
| And I think part of that might be because maybe he doesn't have much hope of actually converting all that many Bush fans or, like, neoconservative-leaning people. | ||
| Maybe he's aware of that. | ||
| That's not a fruitful pond for him to fish in. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that's, I guess, and that was borne out because they came to him. | ||
| You know, he never convinced neocons to love him. | ||
| All of a sudden, they just started going fucking crazy, and then he was there for them. | ||
| He was ready and waiting for those dumb, dumb, dumb people to show up at his door. | ||
| The Tea Party and then Trump eroded everything to the point where Alex... | ||
| It's normal. | ||
| It's like a fucking Bilbo Hobbit situation with Beorn. | ||
| A bunch of dwarves showing up one at a goddamn time. | ||
| Can't stop him, Dan! | ||
| Sorry, that's a weird Hobbit reference for no reason. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah, it got there. | ||
| So, Alex takes another call from a guy, and this fellow would like Alex to speak at the University of Austin. | ||
| At UT, Texas, Austin. | ||
| That'd be an interesting day. | ||
| Yeah, I'm gonna tell you that the booking doesn't seem likely for me. | ||
| It doesn't seem like he's gonna get that booking, but there are some conditions upon which he would accept them. | ||
| I've watched the symposiums at UT on cable, the Noam Chomskis, the professors, the rest of them, and it's all a phony left-wing paradigm. | ||
| I do need to come talk to UT, and if they invite me to talk to a big enough crowd... | ||
| I'll come do it. | ||
| I've actually spoken at UT twice before. | ||
| Wow, like into a bullhorn. | ||
| Yeah, I was gonna say, that's a very big tip. | ||
| I've spoken at UT twice before. | ||
| So have I. I visited my dad's office and I said hi to somebody. | ||
| Yeah, I've walked around and said, Hey! | ||
| I've spoken at UT. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I would say go fuck yourself with this. | ||
| If UT gets me a big enough crowd, I'll show up. | ||
| You went to Kansas City to do like an opening of a tire store. | ||
| Later on, you'd go to a fucking... | ||
| You'd fly across the country to open a grocery store. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| Not even open a grocery store. | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| He was just going there because they didn't like masks. | ||
| Bunch of dog. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| If UT got him two people. | ||
| If UT got him a fucking sandwich. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, there's more calls. | ||
| Most of the rest of the show is calls. | ||
| And so, there's actually not a whole lot of meat left on these bones. | ||
| But... | ||
| I don't know if I like that less or more than now. | ||
| Because it seems like he doesn't take too many calls now. | ||
| Yeah, it's not as... | ||
| He talks about taking calls now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A bit. | ||
|
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A bit. | |
| And then it often doesn't happen. | ||
| And then also, he has just the same people calling in the present. | ||
| Like this guy Carlos calls in all the time. | ||
| Pretty much every time the phone lines are open, that dude will get in there. | ||
| That guy's there. | ||
| Yeah, and it makes me wonder if there are just a few people who call. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I really have no idea. | ||
| And I think that in terms of my listening... | ||
| Enjoyment? | ||
| I prefer it like this in 2003. | ||
| Because it feels like a radio show. | ||
| That's what I was thinking. | ||
| I was thinking that about this from a purely enjoyable standpoint. | ||
| I prefer being in the past, and these callers are... | ||
| Some of them suck, and they're boring, but... | ||
| It's still like, at least there is this input of the listeners and Alex has to say yes and with them all the time. | ||
| It's got a little bit of a ramshackle charm to it. | ||
| It does. | ||
| It does. | ||
| And I don't know if I would like that now, though, because I don't know if I would be able to handle what the callers would say now. | ||
| You know, like, back then, the closest we got was that guy being like, hey, what do you think I should use this long rifle for? | ||
| Right now, if somebody called in, I feel like they'd be like, no, no, no. | ||
| I didn't ask you what should I use it for. | ||
| I said, who? | ||
| Who do you want me to kill with this rifle? | ||
| You know, like, I don't want to live there. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I think you're right. | ||
| I think that if I were Alex, I would be aware that it might not be a good idea to trust a lot of the audience with an open phone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That could be rough. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But then again, if I were Alex, I probably wouldn't trust most of the people he has on as guests to speak into a hot mic. | ||
| That is a really good point! | ||
| That's a really good point! | ||
| So this caller... | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| I mean, obviously, this is a sovereign citizen. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Which, there were a lot more of them in Alex's audience at this point. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I would say, you know, I mean, I'm not like Alex, I don't just make up statistics, but I would say 99.9999% of his callers are sovereign citizens. | ||
| Okay, that sounds about right. | ||
| So about 4 out of 20,000? | ||
| Give or take. | ||
| This person believes, this lady, she believes. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That. | ||
| According to God and the Constitution, she does not need a driver's license because her husband owns the car and he gave her permission to use it, which makes sense. | ||
| Sheila in Missouri. | ||
| Sheila, you're on the air. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
|
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Alex, how are you today? | |
| I'm pretty good, Sheila. | ||
| How are you? | ||
|
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Well, being followed. | |
| Monday, I took a trip to town. | ||
| And I was pulled over by a state trooper. | ||
| He was doing his, I don't know what. | ||
| He never gave me an explanation. | ||
| He was just pulling people over. | ||
| He was standing in the middle of the highway and asking to see their driver's license. | ||
| So he had a gentleman on the other side of me looking at his license, and he told me to give him my license. | ||
| And I said, no, sir, I do not have one. | ||
| first mistake so he told me to pull over to the side of the road and i did he came back to me and he noticed that my son and i both had our seat belts on and he said you want to tell me why you don't have a license? | ||
| And I said, yes, sir. | ||
| I believe in the Constitution of the United States. | ||
| And I also believe in the Bible. | ||
| My husband owns this truck. | ||
| He gives me permission to drive it. | ||
| So therefore, unless he tells me to get a driver's license and until you show me where the Constitution of the United States says that I have to have a driver's license or a license at all to operate something that my husband owns and gives me permission to use, then I'll go get one. | ||
| Okay. | ||
|
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He laughed at me. | |
| You don't say. | ||
| And the funny thing about this story is that it ends up with the cop letting her go with a warning. | ||
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Get the fuck! | |
| God damn it. | ||
| And she's actually, I think she's totally right, but in the wrong way. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, she says that, like, she probably wouldn't have been treated this way if she didn't have her kid with her in the car. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| She's saying that she would have gotten roughed up and, like, you know, beaten up for being a patriot. | ||
|
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Sure. | |
| The cops are mad about this kind of thing. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But I think she probably was treated differently because she had a young child in the car, and the guy probably was just like, this is... | ||
| This is going to really fuck up their day. | ||
| I'm just going to let this go. | ||
| Get your kid home. | ||
| I would suspect that this is going to be too much insanity to try and beat through. | ||
| What's going on here? | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| So she calls in to Alex's show to tell this nonsensical story about how if your husband owns the truck and he gives you permission, then the Constitution says you can drive it without a license. | ||
| And the cop was nice and let her go, and then they demonized him about how he wanted to beat her up. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Think about it. | ||
| I imagine being a cop. | ||
| Whenever you ask people, tell me why you do this, you don't want to hear them say, no, I'm not going to tell you. | ||
| Because you're like, that's going to be a lot of work. | ||
| But if you hear them say, yes, I would love to tell you why, you're like, this is some sovereign citizenship. | ||
| It's about to happen. | ||
| The only people who you're like, do you want to tell me why you don't have a license? | ||
| Yes, I do. | ||
| And the Constitution, you're like, no, no, go. | ||
| Go. | ||
| Just go. | ||
| Go. | ||
| Go get into an accident. | ||
| Go do something. | ||
| They pull down on, like, the roof of their car. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| It's a screen. | ||
| Yeah, they have a projector set up. | ||
| Yeah, and you're like, oh, God, no. | ||
| Not only will I explain to you why I don't have a license, I have a presentation ready to go. | ||
| Excuse me, ma 'am. | ||
| You need to understand this question was more rhetorical. | ||
| And I have no interest in the answer. | ||
| The problem is you don't have a license. | ||
| Just pushes in a tape. | ||
| This presentation is a soundtrack. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Put a lot of work into this, officer. | ||
| And you will listen to it. | ||
| Excuse me, officer. | ||
| Would you be happy to know that I have been waiting just for this exact situation with a lot of props? | ||
| I should warn you. | ||
| About half an hour in, I am going to open the door just to do a little soft chew. | ||
| There's a tap number in the middle of the presentation. | ||
| We have to have an intermission. | ||
| So please don't shoot. | ||
| You can't have a three-hour show without an intermission. | ||
| That's just rude. | ||
| I find it really fascinating how many times there are people who call in with horror stories to Alex's show about things that are just like, they're just being annoying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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And then the resolution of the story is, Yeah. | |
| Yep. | ||
| I was bothering somebody and then I didn't receive any consequences for it. | ||
| Alex, can you believe this world? | ||
| I was being super annoying to a cop who just decided to let me go with a warning. | ||
| Man, I must call Alex about this. | ||
| Why do I... | ||
| I feel like so much of Alex's callers with these types of stories, like the unspoken parentheses is... | ||
| And I'm white! | ||
| You know, like, this type of treatment happens to non-whites. | ||
| I can't believe it happened to me! | ||
| I mean, I think a lot of the time there probably is a little bit of that energy, but in this case, I think it's more just... | ||
| Yeah, sovereign citizens are a different world. | ||
| So Alex gets another caller, and this guy wants to know whether or not there was chicanery going on with the 2000 election. | ||
| Yes, there was. | ||
| It was highly documented. | ||
| Oh, was there? | ||
| No, there was a... | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| So documented. | ||
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Do you believe that there was some fraudulent activity with the Gore and Bush election? | |
| Mike, let me explain this to you. | ||
| I only deal in things I can prove. | ||
| Fuck off! | ||
| And occasionally I speculate very rarely. | ||
| And if I do, I'll tell you I'm speculating. | ||
| I know that the military-industrial complex, without a shadow of a doubt, carried out September 11. I know they carried out Oklahoma City. | ||
| I know they killed Kennedy. | ||
| I know that voter news services took over two weeks after they blew his head off in Dallas, Texas. | ||
| I know that it's had different names. | ||
| I know that Voter News Services that night announced that Al Gore was the president. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| And then they announced that Bush was the president. | ||
| And then they announced that Al Gore was the president. | ||
| And it went back and forth. | ||
| And I studied it, and I studied it. | ||
| They caught Democrats in Florida, one legislator, with voting machines in his car, cramming the ballots. | ||
| He has an example of Republicans cheating, too, just to be above board and make sure that I don't... | ||
| I cut it off there because the rest of the clip rambles on a bit, but he does give an example of cases of Republicans. | ||
| He's above the left-right paradigm. | ||
| Yes, of course he is. | ||
| So I didn't know that Voter News Service is behind everything. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| They've had different names. | ||
| Did he imply that the military-industrial complex changed their name to Voter News Service? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That was a real grocery list of being wrong about stuff. | ||
| How is it possible that I've listened to thousands of hours of Alex's show? | ||
| And this is the first time you've heard it? | ||
| I've never heard him weaving yarns about voter news service. | ||
| Because they changed their name, Dad! | ||
| They've had so many names! | ||
| You don't even know what their name is now. | ||
| I don't even know if it was then. | ||
| They don't exist. | ||
| Okay, well there's that. | ||
| And they didn't exist at the time of Alex's recording this episode. | ||
| That's because they had a different day. | ||
| This is just an exit polling group that was formed so various news entities didn't have to do duplicate work, exit polling, doing the same questions. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So they just all have one uniform source. | ||
| The organization did such a bad job with the 2000 election, however, that they were disbanded in January 2003, well before the episode Alex is doing right now that we're going over. | ||
| They were disbanded! | ||
| Yes. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I have no idea how voter news service could have taken over after Kennedy was killed, seeing as they were formed in 1990. | ||
| Also, I think that if Alex knows that people were stuffing ballots into voting machines that they had stored in their cars, then the answer to the question of whether or not he knows of any fraud going on in that election is yes. | ||
| The answer is not a long-winded non-answer about, I only know things that I know. | ||
| No, you know, sometimes when people ask you a yes or no question, they are looking for an answer that is yes or no. | ||
| And when the answer is yes, because there were people... | ||
| Stuffing ballots into voting machines that they had in their cars? | ||
| You can just say yes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We're stuffing... | ||
| Ballots into voting machines in their car. | ||
| Yeah, they're just sitting in the car like, oh my god, I have so many ballots. | ||
| What am I going to do with all these ballots? | ||
| So I'm supposed to believe that fraud occurred. | ||
| Jordan, Jordan, Jordan, you're getting my call right now. | ||
| I am freaking out. | ||
| I have so many ballots. | ||
| I can't stop all these ballots in the machines. | ||
| These people are so bad at stealing an election, all of a sudden they're in their cars and they're fucked. | ||
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Wait. | |
| Wait. | ||
| What if this is Fast 10? | ||
| This is what we do. | ||
| They're stealing an election. | ||
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Yes. | |
| The ultimate thievery! | ||
| This is the plot of Fast 10. This is why they went to Brazil to steal all that fucking money just to train to steal an election. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And they're going back to space, baby. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Roman and Tej realize they belong out there. | ||
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So peaceful. | |
| They take their long rifles, assassinate Elon Musk, and then steal his fucking rocket, go into space in order to steal the next election. | ||
| Alright, alright. | ||
| We can only steal this election if we have ballot machines in cars. | ||
| Call Dominic Toretto. | ||
| Surprise! | ||
| Surprise outcome of the 2024 election! | ||
| Family in! | ||
| It is the president! | ||
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What's this? | |
| It is family! | ||
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Wow. | |
| On the Toretto, Toretto ticket. | ||
| John Cena is the vice. | ||
| Yeah, yes. | ||
| Absolutely, definitely related to Dominic Toretto, John Cena. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| 100%. | ||
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Boy. | |
| Oh, this is good. | ||
| Yeah, I think that Voter News Service is not the nefarious group that Alex is. | ||
| Presenting here. | ||
| I don't know what he's trying to insinuate. | ||
| Is he insinuating that they killed Kennedy or that they just filled the power vacuum after Kennedy was killed? | ||
| No idea. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'd love to learn more. | ||
| I would like to know more about this. | ||
| I wonder if this will come up in other 2003 episodes. | ||
| I wonder if it'll come up again over the next 20 years. | ||
| Boy, tell you what, confusing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, you know, the people, revolutionaries over history, one of the catchphrases that they've used is... | ||
| Where's the beef? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Each one, teach one. | ||
| Oh, yes, of course. | ||
| It's something that gets used, you know, in order to grow a movement. | ||
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Right. | |
| You need, I am one, but I teach you. | ||
| If they tell two friends. | ||
| Then you tell somebody, yes. | ||
| If they tell two friends. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So Alex is talking to somebody who showed his, one of Alex's documentaries at their church function, I believe. | ||
| Great. | ||
| And Alex finds the longest-winded way possible to say each one to each one. | ||
| And what you need to do now is tell those 28 people to bring one more person, and you'll have 56 people next time, and then tell them to bring 56 more, and you'll have 112, and tell them... | ||
| To bring 112 next time, and you'll have 224, and then tell them to bring 224, and you'll have, you know, the numbers just continue from there. | ||
| Yeah, it's unbelievable, Alex. | ||
| It's 448. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know if he realized, like, this was getting a little long, or if he couldn't do that. | ||
| He couldn't do that math? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He seemed to be doing okay up until that point. | ||
| He was doing pretty good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It didn't even seem like it was taking him that long to come to the multiply by two answer. | ||
| Yeah, that's pretty good. | ||
| I just think that there's such an easier way to express that. | ||
| Oh, I mean, a concept that's been around since the beginning of humans trying to, you know, congregate. | ||
| Yeah, I would assume that we would have figured out a shorter way to say it by now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, this next clip I just think is really funny because Alex is talking to this guy who played this video, one of his documentaries for his church, and Alex needs to know, like... | ||
| How did it go? | ||
| How did it go? | ||
| Did I get a standing ovation? | ||
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How did it go? | |
| So what were the reactions during the film? | ||
| Were there any gasps? | ||
| Were there any gasps? | ||
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What an overconfident fucking... | |
| Not even, like, did people like it? | ||
| He went straight to how crazy did people find it? | ||
| Yeah, did people gasp? | ||
| How many church ladies fainted? | ||
| Yeah, I was gonna say. | ||
| How many people brought out their fans? | ||
| Oh, my. | ||
| That's like James Cameron being like, hey, how did they like the new movie? | ||
| Did anybody get down on their knees and begin to worship me? | ||
| Is that... | ||
| No? | ||
| No, zero people? | ||
| Not even one? | ||
| That's unusual. | ||
| I'm going to have to call voter news service. | ||
| They're going to have to get rid of another Kennedy for me. | ||
| There's one last clip here, and it's one of the other big headlines that Alex has been hitting, and that is that there's been a little bit of a stock market downturn, and the United States has lost, North America as a whole has lost some millionaires. | ||
| Oh. | ||
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Oh, no. | |
| I would like you to think about the way in which Alex describes relative wealth. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Stock losses contributed heavily to a decline in the number of North American millionaires last year, even as the world's richest people are getting richer, according to the new report. | ||
| Yeah, the little middle class millionaires, and that's lower middle class. | ||
| You've got over 5 billion. | ||
| and your family founded a few universities, you're kind of mid-level. | ||
| And then if you own the private central banks and print the money and own the military and you're so powerful, people don't even know your name, like the Crumpsian, You're actually an elitist. | ||
| So, that's going on. | ||
| That's pretty interesting. | ||
| That's his conception. | ||
| Also, it's not the Crumps. | ||
| It's the Clumps. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Starring Eddie Murphy. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Yeah, that's like whenever they ask a politician, they're like, how much does a gallon of milk cost? | ||
| $73? | ||
| $7 million or $0.04? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Money isn't real to me anymore. | ||
| It's really strange that Alex in 2003 would have this kind of... | ||
| A perspective. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| CIA dentist's dad, his family comes from oil money. | ||
| I wouldn't be surprised if he's not unfamiliar with the finer things and very unfamiliar with the poorer things. | ||
| I do believe that Alex was a boy of means, let's say. | ||
| But I still think so much of his primary brand is supposed to be like, I'm like you. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Saying that having a couple million is being lower middle class, that's inaccurate. | ||
| Do you know how many people have a couple of million? | ||
| That would be the top 1%. | ||
| There are a lot of millionaires. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| Is that why? | ||
| I mean, yeah, but even if I remember the numbers correctly, it is... | ||
| 90% of the country does not have anywhere near a million dollars. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So, yeah. | ||
| The middle class, which you would suggest is somewhere in the median, you know, they're nowhere near a million dollars. | ||
| No, middle class is going to be, you know, something in the, like, $100,000 a year. | ||
| Let's hope. | ||
| You know, it's going to be in that conversation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Not a couple million dollars. | ||
| Man, at this point, ugh. | ||
| Ugh. | ||
| A couple million dollars? | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
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Yep. | |
| They just don't... | ||
| I feel it disconnect. | ||
| They just don't know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you're rich, you just have no idea. | ||
| If you're listening to Alex in 2003 and you hear that and you're like, I make... | ||
| 30 grand a year. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| You've got to be like, I... | ||
| What am I? | ||
| I am so poor. | ||
| If lower middle class is somebody who has millions of dollars. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| It's just, it's very strange. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think it speaks to his brain. | ||
| He's weird. | ||
| He doesn't know how people live. | ||
| Nope. | ||
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Nope. | |
| Rich people don't. | ||
| Yeah, I think that has also about as much connection to reality as the day before when he talked to somebody who had been to heaven. | ||
| Yeah, that's about true. | ||
| Yeah, I like that we're keeping the fantasy element in this show going strong. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, you know, we come to the end of this year, and we've had a little bit of a ride in 2003 while we have Alex on timeout. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| We'll be back to check in on him in the present day on Monday, but I needed a little bit of that. | ||
| Stay in the past kind of break for my own well-being. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| And we learned that Alex and his friends have been trying to enlist sniper corps. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Yeah, for a long time. | ||
| Long time. | ||
| People have just been thinking that it's a good idea to get sniper rifles for what's coming. | ||
| Also, I think it would be fun if we ever watch another one of Alex's films, if we just gasp at everything. | ||
| How many gasps were there? | ||
| We're going to count. | ||
| We're going to fucking keep count. | ||
| There's going to be a projector screen. | ||
| It's going to count them down. | ||
| Also, I'd really like to try... | ||
| I don't have a car, but you do. | ||
| I'd like to get your permission to drive it without a license. | ||
| Without a license? | ||
| And then try and get myself pulled over and... | ||
| No, see, here's the problem there. | ||
| One, I don't believe in the Bible, so that justification is out. | ||
| And two, I think the Constitution is bullshit. | ||
| Also, if I don't have a driver's license, I can't have insurance. | ||
| Ah, yeah, there is that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway, we're not going to do this. | ||
| We'll figure it out. | ||
| It's silly. | ||
| Permission is not equal license. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Permission granted. | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
| But until then, Jordan, we have a website. | ||
| We do have a website. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Yeah, we're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledge underscore fight and at go to bed, Jordan. | ||
| We're also on Facebook. | ||
| We're on Facebook. | ||
| We could please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people doing God's work. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo. | ||
| I'm Leo. | ||
| I'm DZX Clark. | ||
| I'm Daryl Rundis. | ||
| And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |