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July 5, 2021 - Knowledge Fight
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#573: July 1, 2021

Today, Dan and Jordan check in to see how things are going when Alex returned from bothering people in McAllen. In this installment, Alex misreports a story on Covid vaccination and pregnancy, creates a strawman version of the indictment against Trump's company, and warns that soon all children will be Peter Pan.

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alex jones
06:13
d
dan friesen
32:26
j
jordan holmes
18:46
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owen shroyer
01:33
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sherri j tenpenny
04:42
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lauren witzke
00:23
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys, saying we are the bad guys.
Knowledge fight.
unidentified
Dan and Jordan.
Knowledge fight.
I need money.
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
Stop it.
Andy in Kansas.
unidentified
Andy in Kansas.
alex jones
It's time to pray.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first time calling.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your world.
Knowledge Fight.
alex jones
Knowledgefight.com.
unidentified
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Selene, and talk a little bit about Alex Jodens.
jordan holmes
Oh, indeed we are, Dan.
dan friesen
Jordan.
unidentified
Dan.
jordan holmes
Jordan.
unidentified
I have a quick question for you.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
What is your bright spot today?
dan friesen
My bright spot today, Jordan, is Skittles gummies.
I just discovered these at the store.
Oh, are they that good?
I think they're better than Skittles.
unidentified
Probably...
jordan holmes
I don't know.
That's hard for me to say.
dan friesen
I like a gummy, though.
I am a fan of a chew.
jordan holmes
Oh, that'd be...
When is Skittles going to get into the THC gummies?
That's the next question.
Yeah, it's got to be soon, right?
dan friesen
Someone will make a bootleg one, I'm sure.
That would be good.
jordan holmes
That'll be great.
dan friesen
For people who enjoy that.
You know, it's funny.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
I like a chew, but I don't like sneezing.
It's not funny.
What's your bright spot?
Jordan?
Save me?
What's your bright spot?
jordan holmes
I'm gonna be okay.
I'm gonna be okay.
My bright spot is I finally got a new coffee maker.
dan friesen
Hey, that's great.
jordan holmes
You know how much I care about coffee.
dan friesen
You had like a $15 Mr. Coffee forever.
And you drink copious amounts of coffee.
jordan holmes
Yeah, full pot a day at least.
And then, because I got the new coffee maker, I have...
dan friesen
Is this one, what, the timer?
jordan holmes
Oh, it's got a timer.
It's got it all, baby.
No, but because my coffee maker is so garbage, I didn't use that Hawaiian coffee that you bought for me because it would have just come out like garbage.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
So the first thing I did with the new coffee maker had some of that Kona coffee that you got for me.
Fantastic.
dan friesen
They make a good bean over there on the islands.
unidentified
It's a good bean.
jordan holmes
It's a good bean.
dan friesen
That's awesome.
I'm glad to expand your horizons from that Folgers bullshit.
jordan holmes
Good stuff.
I like good coffee, but if I'm going to drink a pot of it, you know, you might as well drink garbage.
dan friesen
I guess.
I mean, I disagree, but I guess if that's where you want to be, that's fine.
jordan holmes
Well, it's like drinking PBR, man, if you're going to do it.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, today we have an interesting episode to go over.
We're going to be talking about July 20...
July 1st?
jordan holmes
July 1st?
dan friesen
2021.
jordan holmes
You're still ahead.
dan friesen
Yeah, so this is Thursday of last week.
Alex was in down by the border, of course, and he had gotten back by Thursday, and I figured, hey, we're going to check in, see what he has to say about Rumsfeld, the Trump organization indictment.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And he talks about a little bit of it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's news.
I imagine he avoids it.
dan friesen
For the most part, yes.
But before we get into today's episode, I thought we'd do a little bit of zip and look into the mailbag.
I like that.
Yeah, so first I'd like to say thank you very much to Lisa, who sent some bath bombs.
jordan holmes
Ooh, those look nice.
dan friesen
Some erotic dinosaur bath bombs I'm excited to give a try.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's good.
dan friesen
And appropriate for your coffee maker, these Cthulhu Starbucks mugs.
jordan holmes
Very cool, I loved it.
dan friesen
Yeah, awesome.
And they preserve the Earth with this reusable eco-mug so Cthulhu can destroy it.
unidentified
Hell yeah.
jordan holmes
It's about time.
dan friesen
Yes.
And then also, I want to say a very special thank you to Tom, who sent a couple of Soviet-era propaganda posters.
jordan holmes
Yes, those are really cool.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Unbelievably awesome.
I've made a point that I do really enjoy that art style.
And I think there's something really cool about communist propaganda posters and also anti-communist propaganda posters.
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And just so cool.
Thank you so much, Tom.
I can't wait to get those framed and put up on the wall.
jordan holmes
There is something.
If you put those right next to each other, there's almost like a duality of man metaphor there.
This is your stepping wolf all over again, man.
dan friesen
No, because I think that these are both actually pro-communist posters themselves.
Although I do have some.
That I've found in various places that are anti-communist ones.
So there would be that disjointedness if I put everything up.
But these two in particular, I think, were both communist in nature.
jordan holmes
Oh, those commies.
dan friesen
Anyway, thank you, Tom.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Tom.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, here, let's get down to business on today's episode.
But before we do, here's an Out of Context drop from today's show.
unidentified
Out of Context What fun.
dan friesen
What fun.
You can tell he's having a great time.
Bow, bow.
unidentified
Bow, bow.
Mau, say tongue.
jordan holmes
What in God's name?
unidentified
Bow, bow, bow, bow, bow, bow, bow, bow.
dan friesen
Rockefeller put in mouth.
jordan holmes
He didn't even have the energy to do it at the right tempo.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Brutal.
dan friesen
So, we start off the show with Alex just getting back to studio, I think.
If I understand correctly, he said he made great time back from McAllen.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So, it's sort of implied that he made it back this morning.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Owen is in studio with him, I think because there was a chance he wasn't going to make it in time.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And so the two of them are riding shotgun for the first bit of the show.
And that does not, it doesn't make for good listening.
jordan holmes
Oh, no?
dan friesen
But they do touch early on on the indictment of the Trump Organization and that CFO.
alex jones
Oh, during a divorce, Trump might have let one of his children Who's getting divorced stay in a condo because he was kicked out of the other condo that his wife was living in.
Oh, and maybe they were able to use company cars.
Maybe company pencils, too, Owen.
owen shroyer
Oh, no, and if he had to, you know, cut a check, it may have been a pen, Alex.
I mean, God forbid.
dan friesen
So Alex and Owen are having some fun here, but the reality of this case is a little bit different than the picture they're painting.
The case had its roots in some questions about Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg's son, who lived in a Trump-owned apartment and paid, quote, far below typical Manhattan prices for it.
This was between the years of 2005 and 2012.
jordan holmes
Oh, I thought it would have been like the 1930s when he could have been like, hey, it's 60 bucks for a room!
That's no big deal!
dan friesen
It was not.
It was more recent.
Additionally, they found that Weisselberg himself reported to be a resident of Long Island, but in fact lived in a company-paid apartment in Manhattan, thereby avoiding, quote, So there's a bunch of things that are like...
You know, payments in kind.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not reporting them on your income.
jordan holmes
It's an entire thing of like, we're not going to pay the government.
We'll do anything.
dan friesen
We'll see how it shakes out as more details emerge, but the image that Alex is trying to portray of this is complete nonsense.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, I just, I don't understand even from their kind of ideological perspective.
What is the percentage, do you think, of businesses at that size?
That don't have some sort of criminal indictment available.
They're eligible for one.
There's so many of these tax schemes and all this stuff going on all the time.
Even if you're an ardent Trump supporter, what you should be like is, hey...
This is the CFO who's been doing all this stuff the whole time.
Trump is clean.
He's clean, man.
His business is clean.
The CFO is embezzling, man.
That's what it really is.
dan friesen
See, that's an interesting angle that you're taking on this.
And Alex does have a kind of similar spin.
Obviously, there's the, you could indict a ham sandwich defense.
jordan holmes
Totally, totally.
dan friesen
And then there's the, also, the way he gets into it, I'm going to skip ahead a little bit since you brought this up.
Roger Stone comes on.
Okay, okay.
To do some defense.
And basically their argument is that, like, this proves that Trump is the cleanest businessman ever.
alex jones
You know what this tells me about Trump?
He's got to be one of the cleanest people that has any big business I've ever heard of.
Because the way they write laws, everybody's doing something wrong.
I mean, if letting people use a condo during a family problem or letting someone use a company car, we have a couple company cars.
I mean, Owen drives a company car.
Does that mean that I paid you off in some criminal action?
I mean, this is just next level.
This shows me that Trump is like an angel.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, if you use the fake version of the story that Alex is telling his audience, then yeah, it does look like this is nothing.
But it's not just driving a company car.
It's payment in the form of a car that's not reported.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and it's also a little bit like, to your question...
It depends, right?
It's the context of, oh, is giving Owen a company car a payment in kind?
Well, if you gave him a company car in order to avoid taxes of some kind, then yes!
That's how it works!
dan friesen
If the company car is his and it's a payment...
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly!
Then yes!
dan friesen
Maybe.
So, anyway, I don't think that this is a robust analysis of this case, and it does not take up much time.
Almost no conversation.
I would say actually zero conversation of Rumsfeld's passing.
jordan holmes
Well, you know.
dan friesen
I was kind of shocked, actually.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is weird.
dan friesen
He does usually like to dance on the graves of the people he doesn't like when they die.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Weird.
I didn't even hear anybody bring up that Errol Morris documentary where he just talked directly to Rumsfeld for a while.
It was, like, you know, with terrifying genocidal psychopaths, you know, like George W. Bush, he's still got that kind of charm, that down-home folksy charm, and when you are just listening to Donald Rumsfeld talk and looking into his eyes, you're like, this is the most terrifying serial killer in the history of this fucking planet.
Like, that guy is terrifying.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I don't think that Errol Morris' aesthetic helps him.
jordan holmes
No, no, and it's just like that, hey!
Donald Rumsfeld, go ahead and talk.
Present yourself to the world.
And he's just like, I am a very normal person, and I have, of course, killed seven million Muslims.
It's no big deal.
Sometimes you kill people, you know?
Like, he's just terrifying.
dan friesen
Yeah, I would have thought that Alex would have something to bring up, but I got nothing.
I got nothing from him here.
And that's kind of because, you know, this Trump indictment, along with all sorts of other bits of business, they are indications that...
You know, it's time.
Shit's going crazy.
Shit's going crazy.
And in this clip, I think if you read this very unfairly, very unfair reading of this clip, Owen is inciting people to suicide bomb.
owen shroyer
That's right.
alex jones
Dracula is lunging on our throat right now.
owen shroyer
And so the analogy of the flame of liberty, you know, the people, half the people going to it, or I don't know, whatever the numbers are.
The communists going towards the light of liberty.
alex jones
They're going to extinguish it.
owen shroyer
Exactly.
They want to put it out.
Meanwhile, freedom lovers are on a kamikaze mission to the flame of liberty to do anything to keep it going, even if that means jumping into it themselves to spontaneously combust.
alex jones
Because we know we're about to go into the tunnel.
We're about to be under total communist...
Takeover.
Re-education.
That's their plan.
dan friesen
Very ungenerous reading of that is Owen saying people need to commit suicide bombing attacks.
jordan holmes
It does sound like he's just basically saying, freedom lovers, suicide bomb.
Duh.
There's nothing more free than your body being small bits all over the place.
dan friesen
I'm telling you that this is an ungenerous reading, but not an impossible one from the words he's saying.
jordan holmes
Nope, nope.
dan friesen
Not good.
jordan holmes
No, that's not good.
dan friesen
Not good.
So, you know, that's one option.
You could throw yourself into the flame of liberty.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or you could, I don't know, do a show on Saturdays.
unidentified
Sure!
alex jones
I also do a lot of special transmissions, and I'm seriously considering, as so much news is breaking, on coming in Saturday and doing a special broadcast, and a special broadcast on Sunday, and maybe even on Monday, because we need to really understand this could be...
We're not honest with ourselves about how much trouble we're in.
We have no hope.
So I'm just asking listeners to realize that this is the moment of truth.
dan friesen
So yeah, we might have had our last 4th of July.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is definitely all about having our last 4th of July and not at all about exploiting a holiday for sales.
That sounds like...
dan friesen
We've got a big 4th of July sale going on.
jordan holmes
I mean, he might have a big 4th of July sale going on that he needs to push on people while the iron's hot.
unidentified
Yeah, might be.
dan friesen
Anyway, it's the last one ever.
alex jones
Oh, okay.
jordan holmes
Bummer.
dan friesen
Pretty severe.
So, I don't know.
Jordan, have you ever...
You've been to Pride before?
jordan holmes
I have.
alex jones
You've been to Parade?
jordan holmes
Yes, absolutely.
dan friesen
Yeah, me too.
It's fun times.
jordan holmes
It's fun times.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Alex has some interesting thoughts about what might or might not go down.
jordan holmes
Suicide bombings?
dan friesen
No.
This next clip is gross and then pretty funny at the end.
alex jones
Then it's just gotten too over-the-top disgusting.
We're going to hit this coming up next segment.
Yes, kink belongs at Pride, and I want my kids to see it.
Men eating feces, drinking urine, and having sex in public.
That's what goes on at the gay pride parades.
I've never been to one, but I've seen the videos.
jordan holmes
Maybe you should go to one!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Yeah, everybody's eating poop.
jordan holmes
I've never been to one, but I've seen the far-right propaganda videos about it, so I'm pretty sure I have a clear-eyed view.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Wow.
I mean, it is so heartless that everyone turns into footloose John Lithgow the moment gay people are like, let's have a party.
That's it.
That's it.
They're just like, no party!
Listen, he's even just like, it's gotten too over the top.
Like, hey, I used to be a huge Pride fan 15 years ago.
Now they're saying kink should be allowed?
No way.
Now I'm off the Pride train.
dan friesen
Oh my god, there's an op-ed in the Washington Post.
I'm furious.
They eat poop.
jordan holmes
I haven't been against the Pride parade since its inception.
No, now it's just gotten too extreme.
dan friesen
I've been real chill.
jordan holmes
Frankly, I've been too nice.
dan friesen
Whatever.
Anyway, Alex, I await his report.
From going to Pride for the first time.
jordan holmes
That'd be nice.
I bet he'd have a great time.
dan friesen
No, I bet he wouldn't.
jordan holmes
He'd have to have a terrible time on air, but the whole time he'd be like, oh, that's so fun.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, on our last episode, we saw him go down to the border and manufacture an entire situation where he saw a blonde, blue-eyed kid being kidnapped.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Imagine what he would make up if he went to Pride.
jordan holmes
Man, isn't it amazing how short of time period ago we discovered that blonde-haired and blue-eyed children were being kidnapped?
At the border, and now it seems like we're not talking about it at all?
dan friesen
I don't think Alex is even talking about it on this episode.
jordan holmes
That's my point!
Shouldn't that be so important?
It was yesterday!
dan friesen
I think they've heard of the Delta variant of COVID-19, though, because that does come up here a little bit.
owen shroyer
Well, that's the problem, is, you know, just like the media is 10 or 20 years behind Infowars, simply just because they don't want to be fully honest with their audience.
Most of the stuff that Alex or I talk about on air...
The average person on Fox News or whatever will talk about behind the scenes with their family at the bar, at dinner, whatever.
They know it's all going on.
They're just not going to talk about it on TV.
So that causes the public to also kind of be 10, 20 years behind.
And that's why they're so stunned when they see Infowars reports from 10 years ago or whatever that are calling out everything that's happening now.
No, we're just being real about what's going on.
It's not that hard to predict the obvious.
And so that's what's going on here.
alex jones
People say, how did you exactly know there'd be a new variant?
Because they said in white papers 10 years ago...
Once we launch this virus, we'll then have new variants to keep people locked down.
And then we'll reduce the lockdowns from time to time to renew hope, but only clamp them down more to save the Earth from carbon.
I mean, it's all stated!
dan friesen
Alex didn't get any of that from some kind of evil globalist plan that he's read.
Anyone could predict that if an outbreak isn't contained quickly, the underlying virus will evolve as it's transmitted.
Every time it replicates, there's a chance for a mutation that could result in a new, more dangerous version of it, and that's something that pretty much everybody...
Yeah, you know, if you let anything reproduce trillions of times, it's gonna make a new variant.
jordan holmes
That's kind of how...
Everything got here.
dan friesen
Yeah, the odds of it are greatly increased.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And, I mean, obviously, not for nothing, Alex's rhetoric and the worldview that he's espoused greatly contribute towards people behaving in ways that increase transmission.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, I don't know.
It's...
jordan holmes
No, it's not even...
It's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
We make sure that people fight against...
dan friesen
I wanted to try and figure out a way to express something close to that without using the term self-fulfilling prophecy.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Because I don't think that's quite right, but it's in there.
jordan holmes
It's not quite right, but it's an outcome that he is warning against whilst acting towards.
So he is essentially saying...
Don't respect the lockdowns, and they're going to create more variants, but by not respecting the lockdowns, you create more variants, and so on and so forth.
dan friesen
At very least, the odds are increased that that outcome will be...
jordan holmes
Which fuels your propaganda more, and then creates the feedback loop that leads us to where you say that 10 years later, Fox News is finally catching up.
No, my friend, it's just an open rebellion now.
The end.
dan friesen
So Alex went down to the border because he was looking for some footage to steal.
He was in a bind.
He's way behind.
I can't do this on the fly.
jordan holmes
Come on.
dan friesen
So he went down to the border and he got that video.
And he has a point that he wants to make.
And that is that right now, the Border Patrol, they are involved in human smuggling.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so they need to go on strike?
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
What's this?
jordan holmes
What is happening?
alex jones
I'll tell you what needs to happen.
The Border Patrol, and even their head guy said this thing got fired, has become the facilitator of the smuggling.
We need the Border Patrol to completely walk off, because right now, they're the ones that organize it and bring it across and actually ferry it.
These people can't even get through or find a bus or go anywhere unless the Border Patrol does it.
And so the Border Patrol needs to have a strike, their union needs to call for it, and you'll walk off.
Because they are facilitating the breach.
Because, I mean, it's insane.
owen shroyer
This is a tough thing to work out, too, because it gets to the larger issue of the fiat currency and how that's used to control us.
A new study came out.
It's now worse since the COVID, obviously.
alex jones
They give the trillions of dollars that they issue a week to themselves.
owen shroyer
But I'm saying most Americans are still living paycheck to paycheck.
alex jones
Oh, no, we don't get any of the money.
Oh, but if you can get to New York, you're a legal alien, you get $15,000 the day you get there.
owen shroyer
But I'm saying...
For some border patrol agents, probably going on strike and not getting that paycheck is not an option.
They've got families, they've got mortgages, they have things to do.
So it's the control over all of us, the fiat currency slavery, that we're all enduring right now.
dan friesen
Interesting.
This is an interesting perspective.
jordan holmes
So what he wants labor to do is organize collectively and take action.
Against management's wishes.
dan friesen
Which, according to Alex, the management's wishes is human smuggling, which I disagree with.
jordan holmes
Well, naturally.
dan friesen
I disagree with that's what's happening.
But, yes, he would like to use labor's power against the management class.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And Owen says that this is a real sticky situation because, you know, these people need a job.
They're living paycheck to paycheck, so their power as workers is threatened by...
Not being able to collectively act.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This is like that...
dan friesen
Boy, I've not heard this sort of conversation from anyone who's not full of shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is Drew Michaels' bit about being so racist you go to the other side.
You know, like, I've just been...
I'm so furious and racist and mad at fucking shit that now I'm a collective socialist.
That's what happened.
God damn it.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
What an awful person.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it's the same thing that happens so often with Alex's rhetoric.
He's like, you know, complaining about stuff that, like, government regulation would solve.
jordan holmes
Would solve easily.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
It's like, nope, I don't have a solution for this problem.
I'm just mad.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the solution is the thing that I'm telling you is bad.
And I'm also telling you that the thing is bad.
And the only real solution is give me complete and total power over all.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex has some white papers that he's found.
These are all publicly available on the World Economic Forum's website.
And he reads the headline of one, and I could tell immediately that he did not read it.
alex jones
And in this newest paper, Global Governance Toolkit for Digital Mental Health, Building Trust.
In disruptive technology for mental health, they say, oh, our technology, our takeover, our end of the family is going to wreck their mental health, so now we've got to take control of them and help them.
jordan holmes
You don't understand what you just read.
Zero idea.
alex jones
With their disruptive post-human takeover.
But they're going to make you feel good and enjoy.
And love, your servitude is exactly what they get into.
Global governance!
dan friesen
Alex obviously didn't read this paper, since he has no idea what these words like disruptive technology even mean.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
He's interpreting the word in a way you might if you didn't understand the concept, and then you were just cold reading a headline and had to come up with a meaning for it on the fly.
jordan holmes
Disruptive technology.
Technology that disrupts things, Dan.
It's very simple.
dan friesen
If you'd actually read the paper, you would have known that this is about a specific topic, namely disruptive technology and its possible applications in helping address mental health issues.
Disruptive technology is a term that's used to describe things that are innovative to an almost upending scale.
A lot of tech startups aim to be disruptive.
If you look at something like Uber, that's kind of an instance of really disruptive innovation in the previous status quo of the taxi industry.
This white paper is looking at ethical implications and other issues surrounding the emergence of disruptive technologies aimed at mental health, quote, from simple educational websites to virtual reality avatars delivering cognitive behavioral therapy.
...
...
Honestly, some of the stuff I think is a little unnerving, like the conversation about using digital phenotyping, quote, where phones, watches and computers measure everything from behavior, language, facial expressions and voice voice tonality in helping to make diagnoses.
But that's not so.
something that's being forced upon people.
It's just a subject of conversation in this paper about tech innovation in the mental health space.
Right.
unidentified
Another thing that they bring up is how, quote, augmented and virtual reality are enabling consumers to experience and practice real-life scenarios within the safe confines of a visit to their psychologist, which seems like a pretty amazing possibility for a disruptive technology breakthrough in mental health.
dan friesen
I think that could be incredibly helpful in a lot of circumstances.
Anyway, the point here is that Alex didn't read this paper.
He has no idea what it's about, and he's just making up a story based on what he thinks the headline means, which is pretty much what he always does.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but in this case, the headline is far too complex for him to even understand.
dan friesen
But it's funny.
It's funny to watch him try.
jordan holmes
It's bananas.
It is like giving a child a cookie and being like, I've never seen a cookie before.
What do I do with this?
And just watching it try and like, oh, it goes in my mouth!
Oh!
Disruptive technology?
I don't know what this is.
It's getting into your brain!
dan friesen
I would love for somebody who really likes Alex to take a look at that and be like, yeah, he read it.
Like, defend him doing any preparation based on that reading of the headline.
It's embarrassing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, that's bad.
dan friesen
So Alex has a guest on the show after, I mean, Roger Stone just dropped in for a couple minutes to be like, Bah!
Trump's great.
jordan holmes
Hey, I've committed crimes, no big deal.
dan friesen
Yeah, we're all persecuted.
jordan holmes
Yeah, sure.
dan friesen
Hooray.
But he has another guest, and this is a woman who ran for Congress, failed, and is now...
jordan holmes
Is it the Loomer?
dan friesen
No, it's Lauren Witzke.
unidentified
Ah!
alex jones
Lauren Witzke has been a guest frequently on shows here at InfoWars.
She's been with us before as well.
I see her prolific work all over the place doing a great job just standing up for freedom.
dan friesen
Oh, freedom.
jordan holmes
Freedom.
dan friesen
So she ran for a Senate seat in Delaware in 2020 and made it through the GOP primary but lost pretty resoundingly in the general election against Chris Coons.
Probably because of cheating.
Probably because the globalists cheated.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that makes sense.
dan friesen
So there's a...
This is an interesting instance of basically like an Ouroboros happening on Infowars, where Alex himself probably had a huge hand in radicalizing Lauren, who he's now interviewing, as if she's some kind of an independent expert in things.
She once said in a podcast that watching Loose Change, the 9-11 documentary that Alex produced, was her, quote, great awakening moment.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
They had a 90% awakening out of that.
Yeah.
dan friesen
She was a big QAnon booster, and an article in the Daily Beast by Will Sommer does a pretty good job of racking up some of her great...
For instance, she stated that she believes the Earth is flat.
Also, she posted an image on Pinterest that said, quote, over 620,000 white people died to free black slaves, and still to this day, not one thank you.
unidentified
Ha!
Oof.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
In another appearance, she was asked if she would be into Trump being the king of the United States.
alex jones
Sure.
dan friesen
And this was her response.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Quote, you know, that would be really cool, because I really think that he's a man who puts America first, and he's the first president I've seen in my lifetime who really puts America first, and the people of America first.
I guess I could get behind Trump lifelong term, I guess.
She's either trolling or she's a lunatic right-wing extremist, and I don't really care which it is.
It doesn't really matter to me anymore.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Anyway, she's a guest who's fighting for freedom.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
Well, if she really was, she would have suicide bombed, according to Owen.
So, I guess she's not really fighting for freedom.
dan friesen
So, the reason that she's on is that she had her bank account closed by Wells Fargo, apparently, recently.
And I don't know the details of this.
I have no idea.
She has made accusations that it's political.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Anyway, she has a reason that she thinks this happened.
It was because she had guest-hosted for Rick Wiles on that True News show.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds like one thing that Wells Fargo is always monitoring.
dan friesen
And she said something on that show that I think she thinks there's retaliation.
alex jones
Lauren, thank you for joining us.
Give us the latest on what's happened to you.
unidentified
Hey!
Alex, thanks so much for having me back on.
So listen, it's no coincidence that they did this to me the same day that I exposed the Equality Act.
lauren witzke
I was filling in for True News host Rick Wiles, and I went on their show, and I talked about the Equality Act.
There is a war on Christians.
They did this, they targeted me, and they made an example out of me because I'm an outspoken Christian who vocally opposes the Equality Act.
Listen, Alex, I don't know if you know much about it, but they're trying to illegalize Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
They're trying to illegalize Jesus Christ.
jordan holmes
I mean, I'm surprised.
It didn't work the first time.
He came back.
dan friesen
Came back.
Yeah.
I don't think that a right-wing ding-dong showing up on a right-wing ding-dong program and talking about how Christians are under attack and the Equality Act is evil, I don't think that is going to even raise anyone's pulse.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
No one's going to notice, because that happens all the time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and not just that, but the people who run Wells Fargo...
Donate to right-wing ding-dongs all the time.
So it's like, yeah, they're probably watching the show being like, finally, somebody's talking about how there's a war on Christians.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Rick Wiles.
He's a Wiles one.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's out there.
jordan holmes
He's out there.
dan friesen
So anyway, I think that what you start to get the sense of is maybe this lady, this Lauren Witsky, maybe...
Is just a little bit anti-LGBTQ.
jordan holmes
Oh, you think?
dan friesen
Yeah, I think she might be.
And I think she's mad about Pride Month.
jordan holmes
Oh, you think?
dan friesen
I think she's very mad.
jordan holmes
Oh, that could be.
alex jones
You start exposing that the left's taking away free speech and they're authoritarian?
The churches will stop groveling.
Most of these churches and institutions aren't on board with evil.
They're just being bullied.
What do you say to that, Lauren?
unidentified
Absolutely, but also they've been cowardly.
They've been spineless.
They've been so afraid of the evil, vile people who hate us and want us dead, calling them names.
So they have refused to speak out against things like gay marriage.
And now look at this.
What do we have?
What have we seen all last month?
You know, 10 years ago, we talked about the slippery slope.
Churches remained silent and did nothing because we were being called bigots.
We were getting pressure.
But in the end, we saw that the end goal was always the children.
Oh, for fuck's sakes.
jordan holmes
Oh, think of the children.
unidentified
Normalized pedophilia.
They were pushing that normalization of pedophilia in children's shows.
Drag queens on blues clues with pedophile paraphernalia.
Oh, they had the pedophile flag on the show!
alex jones
The pedophile flag!
unidentified
Yes, yeah, they did, and they're not even hiding it anymore.
dan friesen
So, you remember how when Alex was on that podcast, Flagrant 2, he was trying to pretend that his problem with things like the Pride flag and Black Lives Matter, where the corporations are trying to mask their evil actions by hiding behind socially conscious signals?
Remember how we had a conversation about that?
jordan holmes
I remember that.
dan friesen
That's something that is used in public because it makes sense?
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's better than just being an out-and-out bigot.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This right here on this show, this is what Alex actually promotes.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is what his actual content entails and is made up of.
Blue's Clues put out a clip on their YouTube channel where Blue sings an alphabet song where the P in it stood for pride.
There's a bunch of flags on the screen momentarily, like the asexual flag, the trans flag, the pansexual flag, and the intersex flag, for instance.
is not concerned with the corporate co-option of LGBTQ plus identities.
He just uses that as a respectable mask to hide his own overt bigotries when he's on a platform where that sort of conversation, like, it would come off as being Yeah.
A podcast where you can bro out and talk about how you gotta trick dick and what have you.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But if you start going down the, like, gay people exist to corrupt our children or something.
jordan holmes
They're gonna be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
dan friesen
You might be showing your cards a little too much, and so you hide behind this respectable facade that is, I'm just not into corporations doing this Pride Month thing where you put up a logo and then all of your past sins are forgotten.
And it's bullshit.
This is the real face of what Alex does.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I do like the retconning of the Christian movement refusing to speak out against gay marriage.
I remember when they were trying to legalize gay marriage, the churches were all silent.
The Christians all silent.
They were too cowardly because then somebody might call them a bigot, Dan.
dan friesen
Just hushed.
jordan holmes
And that's why.
That's why.
They were so silent that gay marriage was passed without any objections at all, and then now look at us, we got pride.
We got kink at pride, Dan.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
It's a slippery slope argument, and it's all because the Christians have been too quiet about LGBT issues.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
It makes sense.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
So, Lauren has some big news to break.
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
And this actually, I think it started to dominate Alex's coverage for the end of the week.
unidentified
In regard to the vaccine...
Alex, did you know that LifeSite just published an article revealing that the vaccine has an 82% miscarriage rate?
Why is nobody talking about this?
It's a depopulation agenda.
This new variant, they're going to be pushing fear on the American people again and censoring information about these deadly vaccines.
And 82% of women are having miscarriages.
It's killing babies.
82%.
They love dead babies.
dan friesen
They love dead babies on the left.
jordan holmes
They love dead babies.
dan friesen
So LifeSite News is a pretty bad outlet with dog shit editorial standards, and I don't usually trust them for shit.
And you always hear things being cited.
It's like Natural News and LifeSite or two that are always like, eh, I don't know about this.
That said, if you try to find this article that Lauren is telling Alex about, you'll find the headline, quote, huge red flag, medical researchers bury data showing 82% miscarriage rate in vaccinated women.
This is followed by no actual article, but instead, there's an editor's note that says, quote, This article has been temporarily pulled for further review, so LifeSite can make adjustments and provide additional clarification regarding the data.
We apologize for the inconvenience.
Thank you for your understanding and patience as we seek to maintain accurate and honest reporting.
jordan holmes
You can leave that headline up?
dan friesen
Yeah, apparently.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Yeah, whoops!
Unfortunately, the damage has already been done, and the talking point has reached Alex by way of this Flat Earth QAnon homophobe.
jordan holmes
You got it.
dan friesen
Even though they've taken down the article, guess what?
It's still the number one article listed on the site's must-read list, so that's cool.
There's a copy of this article on the Wayback Machine, and it relies on comments from an oncologist and a, quote, reader who described herself as a teacher of medical research to insist that a New England Journal of Medicine paper was lying about the conclusions that its data found.
The paper is easily accessible if anybody wants to read it.
What the researchers did was use self-reported information to assess the outcomes of vaccination on pregnancies.
They found that, quote, preliminary findings did not show obvious safety signals among pregnant persons who received mRNA COVID vaccines.
They also found that there seemed to be very low risk in people who were vaccinated in later terms, like third trimester.
jordan holmes
Wow!
I mean, 82% miscarriage rate is low risk, huh?
dan friesen
Well, no, but see, that's the cover-up.
What they said in the paper was the cover-up.
There's some concern in the data about how many people who got vaccinated early in their pregnancy did not end up in a live birth.
However, the data is unclear about exactly the circumstances.
Since everything was self-reported, there is a possibility of...
Another issue is that this study, we need to wait to give more info, and there's an obvious reason.
People who were vaccinated in their first trimester might not have reached the point where they would be giving birth yet, and thus, this data is not going to be particularly useful in terms of assessing those outcomes.
In terms of people who were vaccinated in their third trimester, most of those pregnancies have come to term, so there's a more useful metric for the purposes of what this paper could hope to capture.
The paper literally says this.
Quote, I'm gonna wait and see what comes out on this subject as the fuller scope of information becomes available, but for now, I can say with some certainty, and LifeSite News seems to agree, that the version that's being peddled by Lauren is fucking nonsense.
This is so dumb.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean...
Even if it wasn't in the study, even if we weren't studying it, 82% of pregnant women getting this vaccine...
having a miscarriage would already have been very, very, very obvious.
And everyone would know about it.
be talking about it constantly because the government and science would have been murdering children at an 82% clip.
Yeah, that would have been an issue.
dan friesen
Yeah, it would be very impossible to hide.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Just at any given moment, how many women are pregnant?
On any given day, how many women are pregnant?
At varying stages of, and we've had the vaccine for a long enough time that enough of them were 82% actually winding up in a miscarriage.
dan friesen
I can explain this statistic, and I will once we get to it.
I can explain where the shadiness is.
jordan holmes
And I understand that it's going to, you know, obviously, but just barefaced, you cannot trust that.
Even a little bit.
dan friesen
No, it's silly.
It's an exaggeration to an extent.
jordan holmes
A comical extent.
dan friesen
It's a parody of a stat.
Anyway, this is all about Satan.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah.
unidentified
You know, Satan, he knows that the easiest way to destroy something is when it's in seed form.
That's why they try to murder babies in the womb.
What?
They got a fighting chance.
Yes.
But after that, then they try to indoctrinate these children by smearing their identities.
We don't really know if you're a boy or a girl.
Hey, you're a boy that identifies as a girl?
Let's encourage that.
dan friesen
That's smearing the identity, apparently.
jordan holmes
I hate it when people slander my gender by me saying that I don't like it.
dan friesen
I'm fairly convinced that she's not trolling.
I'm fairly convinced that she's just nuts.
jordan holmes
No, this is like...
This is the exploitation of an insane person.
dan friesen
It does seem that way.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is not a person that can be taken as anything other than completely delusional.
dan friesen
But I think that one of the issues with Alex's show becoming so stupid in the present day is that conversation in other circles would just be like...
Alright, I can't listen to this.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out of here.
dan friesen
You think Satan really wants to kill babies.
Alright, I gotta go.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's totally normalized.
It's a totally, like, it fits in.
jordan holmes
No, yeah.
dan friesen
To his show.
jordan holmes
You don't know, based on the context, that this person is even crazier than what you could imagine.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Not to be taken seriously as a commentator on...
jordan holmes
Not even on InfoWars.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's just that idea.
Satan knows.
That the easiest way to kill things is when it's a seed.
What are you fucking talking about?
What are you fucking talking about?
Why?
Why?
It's actually harder to kill it whenever it's inside a woman because that's a full-grown woman there to protect it!
And you can kill a baby easily!
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
Throw a stone at it and he'll probably die.
Babies are so easy to kill.
They're outside.
They can't fight back.
dan friesen
You need to talk to the devil.
jordan holmes
I need to talk to the devil.
He's got some serious problems.
dan friesen
He's had a lot of time to think about this too.
jordan holmes
Listen, Lauren, I will get back to you when we figure this out.
dan friesen
So Lauren brings up this study to Alex and he has not heard of it.
jordan holmes
Not surprising.
dan friesen
This is the first he's heard.
jordan holmes
Not surprising.
dan friesen
And so she leaves and during the break he's managed to read it and he understands it so well.
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, I just read the study that's using mainline federal numbers from the New England Journal of Medicine, one of the most prestigious journals in the world.
Depopulation alert, the articles on Infowars.com.
Shocking new study reveals COVID vaccine treatments terminates four out of five pregnancies.
Via spontaneous abortions.
dan friesen
So what's going on here is that the anti-vax folks have glommed onto a specific data point from this report in the New England Journal of Medicine, and they're using it to argue that COVID vaccine results in 80 or so percent death rate for pregnancies.
This New England Journal of Medicine article includes a table where they list the number of spontaneous abortions observed as a percentage of the total pregnancies completed captured in their registry.
There were 827 total pregnancies, 104 of which resulted in spontaneous abortion.
This number is in line with the expected incidents.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
The reason why it's a little murky here is it comes from the definition of spontaneous abortion only being relevant until week 20 of pregnancy.
Past that point, it's considered a stillbirth.
So the folks like Alex and such, they insist that what should be done is to not consider the total number of completed pregnancies as the denominator of the fraction.
Instead, it should be the number of people who got vaccinated in the first trimester.
So, you understand what I'm saying?
Basically, you should exclude everyone from that, and then now the number becomes 82%.
jordan holmes
You guys should use the numbers that I choose, and not the ones that you specifically designed for this study.
And since you didn't use the numbers that I chose for the study you designed that I was not involved in, that means you're lying to me.
dan friesen
But Alex and his friends are also being kind of dishonest about what these numbers capture, because these are completed pregnancies.
Right, right, right.
If you want to use the argument that they have and stay honest with it, you can scroll up in the paper and find that 1132 people were vaccinated in their first trimester.
unidentified
So...
dan friesen
You know, the proportion of spontaneous abortions there would be lower than the figure that they use in the actual paper, because the denominator they use is 827 as opposed to 1132.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
dan friesen
So the issue is that 827, that number is all completed pregnancies, which includes known live births and spontaneous abortions or stillbirths.
Many of the people who were vaccinated in the first trimester had not completed their pregnancies at the point when the data was compiled, so the stats look a lot worse in that column, for reasons that should be really obvious.
If you think about it, for any stretch of time longer than one of Alex's stupid commercial breaks.
This makes total sense.
Later, there will be more full information.
We can make a better assessment of it.
This paper is useful in as much as it captures some...
Information about late trimester outcomes in vaccines.
The stuff about the beginning, the first and second trimester, is a little bit murky due to availability of information and incompleteness.
And this is something that is addressed.
They mention it in the study.
And it makes total sense.
jordan holmes
It is hard to learn information that you don't have already documented.
It takes a while.
It's not easy.
You have to take the time to spread it out to learn over time.
And these people are just like, instant reaction.
dan friesen
That's it!
I wondered why this would be published as it is with the sort of other information being forthcoming.
And I think probably just because what they found with third trimester...
Yeah.
And I think that that might be part of why they're like, there's some strong indications that this might be, you know, there's not warning signs.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
It's a sign that we're on the right track, so to speak.
dan friesen
And we'll see when more information comes out.
But Alex reporting this as 82% miscarriage rate is outrageous.
jordan holmes
Insane.
dan friesen
And that's the new talking point.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
It's very stupid.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Anyway, Mike Adams wrote an article about it, I think.
It's on Natural News, so I assume it's Mike Adams.
And here's that analysis.
alex jones
The study authors apparently sought to deliberately obfuscate the truth about the vaccines causing spontaneous abortion.
You understand, this was an attempted cover-up.
By obfuscating numbers in their own calculations, originally brought to our attention by a Life Science News article.
We checked with our own science contacts to review the data and double-check all the math.
In doing so, we were able to confirm, this is natural news, two things.
Yes, the study shows an 82% rate of spontaneous abortions and expectant mothers given COVID vaccines during their first and second trimesters.
They may be the lucky ones.
Imagine what's going to happen to the kids that are born.
Number two, yes, the study authors either deliberately sought to hide the facts in dishonest obfuscation, explained below, or they are incompetent amid a glaring error that brings into question their credibility.
In other words, the study was almost certainly a cover-up to try to calm vaccinated pregnant women.
It's perfectly safe, but the study data actually shows the opposite.
dan friesen
A lot of assumptions in there that are unfounded.
jordan holmes
A lot.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
There was a lot of claims that I don't think he could back up with hard evidence.
No.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Nope, but it works.
It plays, and this story goes around.
I'm sure a lot of people have been bombarded with Jane emails.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Social media posts surrounding this talking point, and it's a load of bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, I really feel like it must suck a lot to just not know anything about science and actively hate it, just to the point where somebody can be like, these scientists were clearly obfuscating deliberately this information and just say...
Sounds true to me.
You know, just like that reactionary hatred of people who have dedicated their lives to learning.
dan friesen
Well, it's a strange response to just be like, this makes me angry.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I love it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, give me some more of that deliberate obfuscation bullshit.
Tell me.
dan friesen
This headline infuriates me, and therefore, it is true?
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Okay.
So Alex gets a surprise guest.
Sherry Tenpenny.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Do you know Sherry Tenpenny?
unidentified
I don't know who Sherry Tenpenny is.
dan friesen
We might not have talked about her too much.
She's an anti-vax weirdo.
Okay.
She's pretty prominent.
She's a pretty big name in the anti-vax game right now.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Tenpenny.
Wow.
dan friesen
I think she just got kicked off Twitter.
jordan holmes
A fucking British barrister is huge in the anti-vax community.
dan friesen
No, I think your name, you're thinking of Moneypenny, like that kind of area.
She's not a British.
Oh.
Okay.
But she does have a webinar that she wants to promote.
sherri j tenpenny
You can hopefully still keep people from getting the shot.
Keep them from getting the second shot.
If they start to have side effects, you know what to look for.
And we're going to talk some new things, some new mechanisms.
We're going to talk about the magnetism.
We're going to talk about myocarditis.
We're going to talk about tissue modification.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
So, yeah, she's into magnetism.
She's pretty big into the vaccines make you a magnet thing.
And she's going to have a webinar where they discuss becoming a magnet.
jordan holmes
I guess that the two things pull towards each other or away from each other without touching.
So that's got to be the highest form of magic that she understands.
dan friesen
How do they work?
jordan holmes
How do they work?
dan friesen
So she just got kicked off Twitter, and I don't know exactly why, but, you know, anyone's guess.
But she seems to be really invested in this idea of teaching people how to teach other people to be oppositionally defiant against medicine.
jordan holmes
Okay, so she's got a bullshit pyramid, a pyramid scheme of bullshit.
dan friesen
It does feel that way, yeah.
sherri j tenpenny
And you know what?
There were a lot of doctors, Alex, a lot of doctors that took our webinar the first time that actually reached out to me, medical doctors, MDs, DOs, naturopaths, who reached out to me after the webinar and they were like, wow, I had no idea.
Thank you so much.
The information you gave us was so valuable.
So if we can convert them one doctor at a time, that one doctor sees 5,000 patients.
So perhaps of those 5,000 patients, we can...
Keep more of them from being injected with this genetic modification technology that will permanently and irreversibly change your genes.
alex jones
We're going to break in a minute and a half.
I'm going to come back for the next 20 minutes.
You've got the floor.
Next 30 minutes, 100%.
Give us a prelude of the top points you're going to hit when we come back.
sherri j tenpenny
We're going to talk about the magnetism.
dan friesen
Oh.
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
I would talk about the genetic modifications that will forever destroy your...
dan friesen
The genetic modifications are that you're going to turn into a fucking magnet.
unidentified
Oh.
jordan holmes
Well, that, I mean, I don't know, you know, this is what I've been saying.
I'm fine with GMOs as long as I can glow in the dark.
Like, I'm fine.
unidentified
If I get magnetism, that'd be fun.
dan friesen
If you become Magneto.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
dan friesen
No, she doesn't really talk too much about the actual...
Science or evidence behind this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would be very hard.
So if I understand correctly, and this is me being stupid, right?
The vaccine's end goal is to teach your white blood cells how to make antibodies for a virus that you haven't already gotten.
And as a herd, we haven't already developed an immunity to, right?
dan friesen
I'm hearing magnets.
jordan holmes
I think magnets might be the only way you could do that, right?
dan friesen
I'm hearing magnets.
jordan holmes
Okay, all right.
Well, that sounds right.
dan friesen
So, obviously, everybody who gets vaccinated is going to die.
I mean, everybody who doesn't is also going to die at some point.
But that's not the conversation we're having.
Tenpenny believes that everybody's going to die.
These shots are going to kill off everybody.
Okay.
unidentified
Except...
dan friesen
Some people.
And you know why?
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
Because they got saline shots.
sherri j tenpenny
And you know, it's interesting that we just got some notifications yesterday that they really are giving some people sailing shots.
And that's because they don't want everybody to die all at once, is my opinion of that.
But every single person that has been injected, even if you say, oh, well, I feel fine, there's nothing wrong with me, I always sadly say, well, I'm glad that you didn't fall into Category 1 of the 20 mechanisms of injuries.
Oh, my God.
Which is anaphylactic shock, heart attack, and stroke.
And so you didn't have one of those, so that doesn't mean you're scot-free.
dan friesen
Yeah, you're probably going to die soon.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you gotta go through one of those 20 mechanisms, or you have to go through all 20 mechanisms to be fine?
dan friesen
To know that you're scot-free, yes.
And if you do, maybe you got a saline shot.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
There are a couple of news stories that I was able to find of people who accidentally were given saline shots.
And that does happen sometimes, and the numbers of people were very low, and these news reports were saying that these people went back and got...
Yeah, of course they did.
jordan holmes
It was not on purpose.
It was not to make sure they didn't die at the same time as everybody else.
dan friesen
But, I mean, look, Tenpenny got a meme about this, and so maybe...
jordan holmes
Can't argue with memes.
sherri j tenpenny
Well, I got this kind of a cluster meme sent to me yesterday, Alex.
It's four screenshots.
I'm looking at it on my computer right now.
Four screenshots from Newswake magazine on different dates.
One was dated April 21st, one's dated April 19th, and one is dated June the 29th.
And there's three different headlines, and I'm going to read them to you.
Headline number one, group of Canadians accidentally received saline injection instead of COVID-19.
jordan holmes
And the globalists don't want to promote that.
sherri j tenpenny
Walgreens stores injects people with saline rather than with COVID vaccine in a mix up.
Title number three, saline injected instead of COVID vaccine in South Carolina.
Is that an accident or is that intentional?
And is this leading to what you just said about clusters?
Are they sending boxes of vials that are just normal saline to certain places and boxes of the real thing to other places?
alex jones
Well, let me tell you, I was told by a retired Army colonel.
Who has a son in special operations that they were told, hey, we're just giving you saline, don't worry.
And then they didn't get sick.
And I've heard from others the exact same thing, that government bureaucrats are just acting like they're getting a shot.
They're not even taking it.
sherri j tenpenny
Exactly.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
That's probably.
jordan holmes
Trump got the vaccine.
dan friesen
You got more than that.
jordan holmes
They know that, right?
dan friesen
You got more than the vaccine.
jordan holmes
Like, Tucker Carlson got the vaccine.
All of their Republican politicians got the vaccine.
dan friesen
Norm did.
Norm Pattis, Alex's lawyer buddy, if you recall.
unidentified
Oh no, what's this?
dan friesen
His fake shocked reaction.
jordan holmes
Bring Norm Pattis on there to have her tell him about the 20 mechanisms that he's about to go through.
Jesus.
dan friesen
Yeah, I was reading a little bit about these saline shots that have happened, and part of the reason is because saline is used to dilute the shot.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
And so some people just accidentally got the unactivated shot, essentially.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know why this retired colonel guy, his son, who's in Special Forces, gets a shot, and the guy tells him, don't worry, we're just giving you saline.
Why would they even go through the play-acting of it?
Why would they even do that?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I just don't know.
dan friesen
Why not just be like, hey, just tell people you got a shot?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or just not tell them.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You would just not tell them.
Why would you give rank-and-file people that kind of information?
dan friesen
Not rank-and-file, any Special Forces.
jordan holmes
Fine.
They're spreading the information around!
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, if you're giving this kind of information to someone who's in Special Forces who's going to tell his dad who's going to tell Alex Jones...
jordan holmes
Who's going to tell Alex Jones?!
unidentified
You've got to be careful.
jordan holmes
You're not disseminating this information to just a Special Forces guy if you know the information is going to get to Alex fucking Jones!
dan friesen
God damn it.
unidentified
So...
dan friesen
People are being magnetized.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Saline shots are being given out in order to make sure that some people survive.
jordan holmes
Permanent genetic reconstruction.
dan friesen
And I have bad news for you.
If you are a parent and you vaccinate your child, they're dead.
They will never grow up.
sherri j tenpenny
Indiana came out with a thing a couple of weeks ago that said, if your kids are vaccinated in great age groups K through 7, They haven't even gotten to that point yet.
But if they've been injected, kindergarteners, through the seventh grade, then those injected children who are now marked forever and forever will have their genetics modified and most likely will not turn into adult women or adult men.
They will be kind of neutered and be a eunuch as they grow up and will not actually evolve into mature adults.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
sherri j tenpenny
But if we've injected them, if parents have been stupid enough to inject their children with these technologies, oh, well, then that will give them privileges.
They won't have to wear a mask.
They can sit with their friends in the lunchroom.
They can play a musical instrument.
They can play with their friends on recess.
jordan holmes
They won't spread it to their grandma and kill her.
sherri j tenpenny
And if they have not been injected, they won't be able to do any of those things.
So now we're separating these kids and making them feel terrible, going home and begging their parents.
alex jones
This sounds like the plot of a nightmare science fiction horror movie.
It does!
sherri j tenpenny
It was really happening.
dan friesen
I think that living through a global pandemic is just the subject of a nightmarish movie.
A lot of movies.
And we've done it.
jordan holmes
And we lived through it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's a lot of tough...
Tough conversations and tough decisions that need to be made, and I'm really glad on some level that I don't have any kids, and I don't have an involvement in those sorts of decisions.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I'm not a teacher, I don't work at a school, any of that.
And I think that figuring out exactly how to navigate this is an incredibly challenging thing.
unidentified
Totally.
dan friesen
And I do not...
jordan holmes
I envy no one with actual power in this situation.
I have zero envy.
I'm like...
Yeah, you guys, good luck.
I'm not even gonna be like, hey, this is what you have to do.
You gotta make that decision.
dan friesen
I think conversations about it are challenging, and I think that there's a lot of more relevant voices than Alex Jones and Tenpenny.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Now, that said...
jordan holmes
If you're listening to Tenpenny, you're going out the window.
dan friesen
No, that said...
jordan holmes
Defenestration.
dan friesen
They're not gonna grow up.
jordan holmes
I don't know if there's anything I can think of that's funnier than them believing that in ten years we're going to have a generation of 18-year-old tiny people just wandering around with their tiny little high-pitched voices and the experience of a lifetime.
dan friesen
I was honestly wondering if that's what she meant, because it makes very little sense to me.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
And it turns out, I think that is what she meant.
jordan holmes
It's what she said.
sherri j tenpenny
If parents get their kids these shots...
They can absolutely, they're just signing away their rights to ever wanting to become a grandparent.
And if they give these kids, these 12 to 15 year old kids these shots, if they give it to a 12 year old girl who's already started her periods, is anybody going to keep track to see whether or not she stops them?
If she hasn't started her periods yet, is anybody going to look to see if she ever does?
jordan holmes
She will.
sherri j tenpenny
What about the little boys?
What about the little boys that...
That will never grow into men, will never go through puberty.
They won't develop body hair and facial hair and lower their voice and get muscles and grow tall.
Is anybody going to monitor to see if that happens?
If we give this to 12-year-old boys, what happens if we don't get females that grow into women and boys that don't grow into men and they can't reproduce?
Well, the nefarious people at the top are spending a whole lot of time killing a lot of people off from the top.
They certainly don't want to have their children.
All of these children repopulate the planet from the bottom.
alex jones
And they say everywhere, get rid of the humans.
We need to sterilize everybody.
unidentified
What?
What the fuck are you talking about?
dan friesen
I don't even know what to do anymore.
There's a certain amount of stuff that can be discussed in terms of like, okay, this study is something that's being misrepresented.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
Blah, blah, blah.
We can talk about the details of that.
Alex didn't read this white paper, and it's funny that he cold read it and came up with a completely different version of it.
jordan holmes
Very funny.
dan friesen
I don't know what to do with Peter Pan.
I don't know what to do with this, because it's nonsense.
First of all, I don't know what she's talking about.
Totally.
It's silly.
jordan holmes
Nonsense.
dan friesen
But then secondarily, what she's saying, this idea of if this happens, will anyone notice?
Yes, categorically, everyone will notice.
jordan holmes
They will have to!
It will be not noticeable!
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't understand that if she thinks that science doesn't have a vested interest in keeping track of data for longitudinal studies.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's the point.
dan friesen
This will be something that will be closely monitored.
jordan holmes
Non-stop.
Yes.
Non-stop.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Non-stop.
Even if it's 30 years from now, there's still going to be like, we've got one study that's been going on tracking how vaccines work over 40 years!
dan friesen
Will anybody notice if there are boys...
jordan holmes
Oh, an entire generation of 12-year-old girls suddenly stopped having their periods at the same time?
Yeah, people are gonna fucking notice!
dan friesen
And boys don't grow and have no body hair.
jordan holmes
We've got a fucking entire generation of Castrettos with beautiful voices.
Yeah, people are gonna notice.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
It seems like one of the more obvious things.
jordan holmes
Also, also, also, the obvious angle on this.
Because her angle is fucking stupid.
The obvious angle for Alex, though, is to say that the reason the elites are doing this is so they can have an infinite amount of pedophile children around.
Because they never grow up.
That's the only angle that makes sense.
dan friesen
I really, I guess I'm glad that he didn't do that.
jordan holmes
I'm really glad that he didn't do that.
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm not glad that you did.
jordan holmes
I'm not stoked about it, but I mean, what else is that?
They're not going to let them grow up because they don't want grandchildren?
dan friesen
I think that was more her saying that if you get your children vaccinated, you won't have grandkids.
jordan holmes
Well, because they don't want another generation of children after this last group.
Of tiny ones.
dan friesen
Maybe?
jordan holmes
That stay tiny forever.
dan friesen
I don't know.
unidentified
Maybe?
jordan holmes
Well, there's so many more easy ways to do it.
dan friesen
Yeah, like things that Alex has talked about, like plan B of the globalists.
jordan holmes
Yes, yes!
dan friesen
Killing off everybody.
jordan holmes
This is the worst plan!
dan friesen
And it seems like it could backfire if it's giving people magnet powers.
Who knows what else is gonna happen?
jordan holmes
So bad.
dan friesen
Yeah.
What if it accidentally turns people into, like, they never grow up, but also they can never die?
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah!
This is a science...
Like, okay.
Okay.
Here's what I would do.
If this is what I thought my sworn enemy was doing, I would feel shame for them and for me for having to fight this.
This is pathetic.
This is a dumb plan.
I can end this plan.
I'll tell you one way to end this plan.
I'm gonna tell a Special Forces guy that I gave...
Give him a saline shot.
Plan over.
A defeated plan.
dan friesen
The silliness of some of the attacks on vaccine and sort of reality are growing.
Yeah.
It's more nonsensical than usual, certainly, checking in.
I was shocked.
There's no real Rumsfeld conversation on this episode, but hey, you know, when you get breaking news like this study that Loren Witzke brings to his attention, you know, sometimes it'll catch you off guard.
jordan holmes
Just gotta ignore the whole Rumsfeld.
dan friesen
And you got this special drop-in from Tenpenny.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, that'll take up.
That's gonna take up a whole hour of the show.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you can't not talk to Tenpenny whenever Tenpenny's around.
dan friesen
Breaking news about kids not growing up.
jordan holmes
I just can't.
I can't get out of my head the idea that when I'm like 90, I'm going to be hanging out with this child who is 87. Just this tiny little child next to me with all the world weariness that comes with that age.
But perfect skin?
Just perfect child.
It's going to be terrible.
dan friesen
I don't think that's going to happen.
jordan holmes
I doubt it.
dan friesen
I guess we'll see in 70 years, 60 years.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we'll be there.
dan friesen
So anyway, Jordan, this is the end of this episode.
Bunch of nonsense.
jordan holmes
That's Project Camelot.
It really is.
We're past any kind of semblance of reality.
dan friesen
Our standards of Alex have deteriorated even without us knowing.
It's just gotten nonsense.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is too much.
Just say it's aliens trying to keep our children the same age and it's the same shit.
dan friesen
It would have the same amount of grounding and support.
So yeah, I'll see what happens in the future with Alex, but I think he's going to be talking about this 82% number, probably for the foreseeable future, which will be annoying.
jordan holmes
I wonder if it's going to make it all the way onto Tucker's show.
dan friesen
I don't know.
That's too silly, right?
I think that someone at Tucker would be able to read.
And be able to be like, eh, we can't back this up.
jordan holmes
We can't do this.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It was taken down on Life News.
dan friesen
Yeah, LifeSite.
jordan holmes
We can't do this.
dan friesen
LifeSite said, we're going to rethink this one a little bit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So yeah, and it's because also one of the problems with it is it's pretty easily explainable based on the context of the study.
And the conclusion that's trying to be pushed by Alex is so incendiary that like...
If you actually believed that 82% of people who got vaccinated lost their pregnancies, I don't know what you would be driven to do to resolve that or to fight back against that.
Maybe jump into the fire of liberty.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, okay, there's a million pregnant women who got the shot.
Let's just say that number.
And you're going to tell me that everyone now knows 820,000 of those women will have a fucking miscarriage or abortion.
Spontaneous.
Spontaneous abortion.
And that wouldn't start a war.
There's no way that that wouldn't start a war.
dan friesen
And I think that the...
How incendiary that idea is, or that conclusion is, is, I mean, I've always been wrong when I think that people will have more restraint.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
But I would think that Tucker would know enough to be like, this could get somebody killed.
jordan holmes
That's a, yeah.
dan friesen
This is, I don't, I don't, like, Alex will do this.
This is what separates me from him a little bit.
jordan holmes
Maybe?
Listen.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
We're the right wing.
We've killed abortion doctors.
We know how this works.
If we go that hard, it's bloodbath for any doctor.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
Like I said, I hope you would have the restraint to realize the danger of playing with that kind of fire, but I've been very wrong about people in the past.
jordan holmes
Everything.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, we'll be back.
Another episode, and we'll see what's going on in Alex Jones' world.
But until then, we have a website.
jordan holmes
We do have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Yes, we're also on Twitter.
jordan holmes
We are on Twitter.
It's at knowledgefight and at go to bedjordan.
dan friesen
Yep, we're also on Facebook.
jordan holmes
We are on Facebook!
If you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people doing God's work right now.
dan friesen
Yep, we'll be back.
But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZXClark, I'm Daryl Rundis.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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