#569: June 23, 2021
Today, Dan and Jordan discuss Alex Jones' knee-jerk reaction to the breaking news of John McAfee's death. Also, the gents discuss some of Alex's other hijinks from the past week.
June 25, 2021 - Knowledge Fight
01:25:20
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| I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys saying we are the bad guys. | ||
| Knowledge fight. | ||
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Dan and Jordan. | |
| Knowledge fight. | ||
| I need, I need money. | ||
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Andy in Kansas. | |
| Stop it. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| It's time to pray. | ||
| Andy in Kansas. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding us. | ||
|
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your room. | ||
|
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Knowledge Fight. | |
| KnowledgeFight.com. | ||
|
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I love you. | |
| Hey everybody, welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes like to sit around to worship at the altar of Selene and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, indeed we are, Dan. | ||
| I was about to say Salter of Selene. | ||
| I heard it. | ||
| I was going to let it go. | ||
|
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Not good. | |
| But, you know, now that you've brought it up, I noticed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How you doing? | ||
| Dan, I have a quick question for you. | ||
| What is your bright spot for today? | ||
| My bright spot today, Jordan, very exciting announcement. | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| So this is something that I've been meaning to get to for a while. | ||
| There have been technical difficulties. | ||
| Which is code for my printer hasn't worked. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I've been wanting to do this again. | ||
| We did it maybe a couple months back, six months back. | ||
| Gave some buttons to folks, sent them out, and I wanted to do another run of these. | ||
| We have some new designs themed around the Cult of Selene. | ||
| Excellent. | ||
| And I would like to announce officially that we're going to be doing another run of these buttons. | ||
| For folks. | ||
| And here's how it's going to work. | ||
| Because last time this completely screwed up all of my inboxes. | ||
| And I am not interested in that. | ||
| A little bit, yeah. | ||
| So I've started a new email address that is specifically for this. | ||
| You do not have to be someone who gives to the show. | ||
| You do not have to be anything. | ||
| Just anybody. | ||
| If you would send your address. | ||
| You do have to be capable of email. | ||
| That is the one limitation on this. | ||
| And you have to send me an address to send a button to. | ||
| Well, true. | ||
| And then I will take care of everything else and you will have a button sent to you. | ||
| The email address is kfbusiness at gmail.com. | ||
| And that's spelled K-F-B-I-Z-N-E-S-S. | ||
| KF Business. | ||
| Let's KF to business! | ||
| At gmail.com. | ||
| If you send an address to that, there's going to be a little bit of time, you know, obviously. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| We've got to make these up, so there could be a little bit of a delay, but we will get this in the works, get some envelopes with your addresses on them, and get these buttons sent out to you. | ||
| I'm very excited. | ||
| I know that last time we did this... | ||
| One of the things that I discovered was I was really, really enjoying the process of making buttons. | ||
| You loved the meditation of buttons. | ||
| Yes, there was something to the crafting of it and the sort of... | ||
| The repetitive... | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
|
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Chunk. | |
| Zen and the art of button making. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And I feel like we're in a safer place now, too. | ||
| There's a lot of precautions that we took the last time around, true, with wearing gloves while making the buttons and everything. | ||
| And now it feels a little bit, you know, we can chill out a little bit and just send out a nice gift. | ||
| Just send out some buttons. | ||
| Yeah, so I'm very excited about that. | ||
| And if you all want to send in some addresses, we'll get those buttons your way. | ||
| Admittedly, this time his gloves will be on and they will be coated with anthrax. | ||
| So it's a little bit of a different problem. | ||
| I met an Elvis impersonator and he had some ideas. | ||
| What about you, Jordan? | ||
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What's your bright spot? | |
| My bright spot is it's low. | ||
| It's in the early stages. | ||
| It's not a super bright spot. | ||
| But after a year of writing nothing but mean things to Taylor Swift and stories about wizards. | ||
| I've started a new project. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| It's much larger. | ||
| Hopefully it'll be about the size of the book I put out last year. | ||
| That's spectacular. | ||
| Yeah, and if it's any longer, people will definitely not finish it, so I'm fine with that. | ||
| Here's to inspiration. | ||
| Yes, I'm very excited. | ||
| Clink. | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| Well, I wish you the best with that. | ||
| Yes, me too. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over, and it's a little bit of a challenge. | ||
| It was a tough challenge for me. | ||
| And here's what happened. | ||
| Alex was out of studio at the beginning of this week. | ||
| He was in New York. | ||
| Is he allowed in New York? | ||
| Maybe, yeah. | ||
| Doesn't Letitia have people on the border? | ||
| Well, see, I think that a lot of people probably, that's the first thing their mind would go to, is that he's probably going to deal with some sort of illegal issue with the Attorney General of New York, Letitia James, who he has threatened on air multiple times. | ||
| And, of course, he had the cease and desist for some of the products that he was selling. | ||
| And I think that there is a possibility that that's the case. | ||
| You know, like, he suspiciously went to Connecticut. | ||
| Yes! | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Recently. | ||
| It's like, oh, why'd you go there? | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Maybe something to do with one of your court cases. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| But also, he was going there to do a podcast. | ||
| He went on that Flagrant 2 podcast. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| When he was drunk last time and said all the weird stuff. | ||
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Well, yeah. | |
| He was so drunk last time that I don't even care to cover it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And so he went there. | ||
| You could think that maybe he's going there for some legal issue, but then also maybe he's just doing this podcast. | ||
|
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Yeah, sure. | |
| And so that was a possibility. | ||
| Maybe we cover that episode. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Simultaneously, kill Tony. | ||
| The podcast had Alex as a guest. | ||
| Tony Hinchcliffe, noted Asian slur purveyor. | ||
| Yeah, hasn't anybody taken that towards his career? | ||
| Let's kill Tony's career. | ||
| Can we do that? | ||
| That's my new podcast. | ||
| He did get dropped by his agent. | ||
| Well, that's good. | ||
| We're on our way. | ||
| So we've at least maimed Tony's career. | ||
| I mean, I don't think it'll matter because the cult of Rogan Enterprises has him ensconced under their umbrella. | ||
| Yeah, so... | ||
| Tony Hinchcliffe is a writer guy and comedian who he formerly wrote for the WWE and such, and he's one of Rogan's buddies. | ||
| And he's one of the ones who decided to go to Austin because their bread is buttered in a very specific place. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| There's no reason to be in LA anymore. | ||
| People don't like me there. | ||
| No! | ||
| Bye! | ||
| Texas is where I'm welcome. | ||
| My career revolves around Joe Rogan. | ||
| Joe Rogan's going to Texas. | ||
| I am too. | ||
| That's so sad. | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| I think it's people understanding where their cottage industry is. | ||
| Oh, no, totally. | ||
| I'm talking about the specifics of my career revolves around Joe Rogan. | ||
| He can do worse. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| So Kill Tony is a podcast that he does that grew out of this open mic at the comedy store. | ||
| I believe it was called Potluck Night or something. | ||
| Something like that, yeah. | ||
| And so I guess they just decided, like, let's find a way to monetize this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Not terrible. | ||
| Not terrible. | ||
| Of the business decisions for an open mic, that one's probably the best I've ever heard. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I've listened to a number of episodes of it because it was a morbid curiosity on my part. | ||
| And a ways back, not just recently, but the show is basically... | ||
| You've got Tony, you've got his producer Brian Redband, and then you've got a guest. | ||
| A celebrity comedian guest. | ||
| And they just act like hot shit while a comic does a minute of material, which is impossible to tell. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| That's all you need. | ||
| That's all you need. | ||
| That's all you need to know if you've got... | ||
| Yeah, and then the guests and the hosts will fuck around and act cool and generally be overly encouraging of some things and overly mean to anybody who doesn't fit into their box. | ||
| And it's just dumb. | ||
| And I wanted to cover it, kind of, because I felt like, alright, this could be fun. | ||
| This could be a fun thing to do an episode about. | ||
| But so much of the episode is like... | ||
| About other people's stand-up sets. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And open mic stand-up sets. | ||
| And I don't want to cover that. | ||
| And Alex was the guest. | ||
| He wasn't due in a minute. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He was the guest judge. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And so, like, I guess I have this drop. | ||
| I want some of that Joe Rogan weed. | ||
| So there's that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
|
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All right. | |
| I guess I have this drop. | ||
| Once a year? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I have this drop. | ||
| You have a beautiful vagina. | ||
| Have a nice night. | ||
| I guess we got that out of it. | ||
| Great. | ||
| There's a part where Alex smells some girl's feet who's in the audience. | ||
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Cool. | |
| They call her up on stage because one of the open micers has a foot fetish and then they get somebody with a foot to smell and I don't know. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Yeah, that's not an episode. | ||
| Great, great. | ||
| I'm loving every part of this right up my alley. | ||
| I'm sure Alex had some insightful criticisms for the comedians. | ||
| There's one guy who had some... | ||
| And Alex is like, I'm drunk, but that was a very cerebral set. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I enjoyed that. | ||
| There is some insightful criticisms there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think actually, surprisingly, at least at the beginning, he was a little bit more thoughtful than Tony or Red Band. | ||
| Yeah, well, familiarity breeds contempt, if you will. | ||
| It's very difficult for me because... | ||
| Critiquing some of this stuff within the comedy space is always going to be walking in molasses. | ||
| There's not, like... | ||
| People will just hide behind the, like, it's comedy, I'm just joking. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Whatever stuff. | ||
| And I don't know. | ||
| I was listening to the Kill Tony and I thought, like, I have a lot of complaints about this, but who cares? | ||
| Yeah, I kind of feel like maybe... | ||
| Listening and criticizing a podcast that's about listening and criticizing comedians is open mic comedians is just a waste of everyone's time. | ||
| Yeah, it felt like challenging, nay, impossible to make worth listening to. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And so I was like, well, maybe we'll do a little bit about that episode of Flagrant 2. Sure. | ||
| You know, why not? | ||
| This is a little bit longer. | ||
| This is a conversational piece. | ||
| Yeah, I want to know what their feet smell like. | ||
| Alex was so drunk on the first time that I just didn't want to cover it. | ||
| This time he's a little bit better. | ||
| But I couldn't handle listening to it. | ||
| It's so annoying. | ||
| And look, I think that the hosts actually make a couple of pretty decent jokes. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| I can see a little bit of why if that's what you like, that's fine. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| If you like bro-y, edgy comedy or whatever, where people are talking about, hey, I had a threesome last week or whatever. | ||
| If you enjoy that, then I can see... | ||
| You know, this being up your alley. | ||
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Sure. | |
| It was insufferable for my purposes. | ||
| Alex takes his shirt off at one point. | ||
| Early. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| Early. | ||
| Early? | ||
| And one of the hosts... | ||
| What is he... | ||
| Did he see Burt Kreischer on Kill Tony? | ||
| Get this. | ||
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What? | |
| One of the hosts calls him Burt Kreischer. | ||
| Okay, well, there we go. | ||
| And then the other host makes the joke, did you say Burt Kreischer's actor? | ||
| Which is not bad. | ||
| Boo! | ||
| See, it's not bad wordplay. | ||
| It's not bad wordplay. | ||
| I understand the wordplay. | ||
| I understand the wordplay. | ||
| But see, it's funny because Alex ruined a bunch of people's lives. | ||
| See, these guys are just making jokes to Alex. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| Not critiquing him about how he ruined a bunch of people's lives by calling them crisis actors. | ||
| No, it's hilarious. | ||
| Yeah, it's funny. | ||
| No, whenever you leave a wake of misery and destruction, what you should do with that is like... | ||
| Make it a funny little bit that you can pun off of. | ||
| Yeah, it's hilarious. | ||
| Yeah, everybody will be like, holy shit, I can't believe he pulled it off. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I mean, like, look, it's obviously only funny because you're talking about something monstrous that the person next to you did. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| But that said, fine wordplay. | ||
| Anyway, I really struggle. | ||
| More like Iraq bore George W. Bush. | ||
| All right, let's all have a fun time. | ||
| See, that's a fun joke to make in a friendly conversation with George W. Bush. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| Very funny. | ||
| Oh, man, that genocide. | ||
| You are... | ||
| Your pictures are dumb. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So we have a couple things that I'm going to talk about towards the end of the episode from the flagrant podcast, because I think there were even... | ||
| As much as it's just like, ah, these guys are just bullshitting and having fun and whatever, I don't care. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| But there are a couple of salient points that I think could be brought up. | ||
| And, you know, whatever. | ||
| We'll talk about that at the end of the episode. | ||
| But, thankfully, something happened that's breaking news. | ||
| in on it. | ||
| And so that's what we'll be talking about today. | ||
| A special report that Alex put out last night as we're recording this. | ||
| Wednesday evening! | ||
| Alright! | ||
| So this is a last minute. | ||
| Is it an emergency report on something that was reported roughly a year ago that we're finally talking about now? | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| This is actually breaking news. | ||
| You know what we're going to talk about. | ||
| Well, yeah, obviously. | ||
| Anyway, we're going to get to this. | ||
| But before we do, let's say hello to some new walks. | ||
| Ooh, that's a good idea. | ||
| So first, Chavez. | ||
| Why Chavez? | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you, Chavez. | ||
| Why? | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Next, Alex in Blunderland. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Next, Chris, and then this is an alias here. | ||
| Jordan's laughter is sweet, sweet music. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Thanks, Chris. | ||
| Next, Dimer, this is Paul. | ||
| Give Dan some money. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| You are now a policy wonk. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| I don't endorse that message. | ||
| Okay, Dimer, this is Paul. | ||
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Okay. | |
| And then, look, technocrat shout out going out to, I don't know how to say this, maybe Dicey, Dico Bros? | ||
| D-I-E-C-O-B-R-O-S. | ||
| Okay. | ||
|
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Thank you so much. | |
| Andrew Dice Bros. | ||
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Ooh. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| You're now a technocrat. | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Crikey, mate. | ||
| That's fantastic. | ||
| Have yourself a brew. | ||
| How's your 401k doing, bro? | ||
|
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All right. | |
| We got to go full tilt boogie on this, Watson. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Let's just get down to business. | ||
| We ain't making that money off that heroin. | ||
| Why are you pimps so good? | ||
| My neck is freakishly large. | ||
| I declare info war on you. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Now, Jordan. | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| We have to get contemplative. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Giving someone life is giving someone death. | ||
| You could say that life is death. | ||
| You could. | ||
| So first, Fiona got a birthday this week. | ||
| So happy birthday, Fiona. | ||
| Happy birthday, Fiona. | ||
| Laura and Lisa reached out and wanted to wish Ron a happy birthday. | ||
| Happy birthday, Ronnie. | ||
| Happy birthday, Ron. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Cooper, got a birthday coming up. | ||
| Jillian says happy birthday. | ||
| Happy birthday, Coops. | ||
| Also, I'd like to wish a happy 21st anniversary to Heather and Phillip, also known as Captain Awesome. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Together they're known as Captain Awesome? | ||
| Probably Mr. and Ms. Awesome. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| All right. | ||
| Well, that's good. | ||
| Also, I checked into this. | ||
| You know, the Hallmark recommends yearly anniversary gifts. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| They got the paper anniversary. | ||
| That's first anniversary. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| What do you think the 21st is? | ||
| I checked into this just to be sure. | ||
| Is it like brass or something? | ||
| Is it one of those? | ||
| It's brass, but it's specifically like a tuba. | ||
| It's that kind of dress. | ||
| Hallmark recommends a 21st tuba anniversary. | ||
|
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Yes. | |
| Gotcha. | ||
| 24th anniversary is woodwind. | ||
| Yes, of course. | ||
| Naturally. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| No, it's a themed gift surrounding the idea of fire. | ||
| So, that's an interesting... | ||
| Alright. | ||
| So, let's go with... | ||
| I mean, I have a tattoo of a firebender's symbol, so we've got that. | ||
| You can get yourself some firebending tattoos. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I think that's a great idea. | ||
| Talk to Zuko. | ||
| Get that out, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah, fire-based gifts. | ||
| Light your house on fire. | ||
| Yep, and finally... | ||
| Black Dragon Queen, Christy. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Our old friend, Christy. | ||
| Happy birthday. | ||
| Coming up this weekend. | ||
| And also, end of last month. | ||
| End of May. | ||
|
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Uh-huh. | |
| Christy and her husband Monty celebrated their 30th anniversary. | ||
| No shit! | ||
| What? | ||
| What in God's name? | ||
| Do you get like a pair of timpani for that? | ||
| What kind of... | ||
| Are we just doing orchestral anniversaries at this point? | ||
| 30th anniversary is office or desk decor. | ||
| That's a lie. | ||
| That's actually the 41st anniversary. | ||
| The 41st... | ||
| So you're telling me that I'm somewhere, I mean, conservatively in my 70s, and you're getting me some office? | ||
| Equipment? | ||
| So even in Hallmark's world, you work till death. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| There is no retirement. | ||
| No Social Security. | ||
|
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No. | |
| Office equipment. | ||
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Yes, office equipment on your 41st anniversary. | |
| 30th is apparently pearls, from what this is saying. | ||
| I would rather have that one. | ||
| End your marriage at 30. Why would you make it all the way to 41? | ||
| You don't need office equipment. | ||
| 30 years is long enough. | ||
| You're gonna love 39th anniversary. | ||
| What's that one? | ||
| Laughter. | ||
| Well, Dan, every day I celebrate my 39th anniversary. | ||
| This list is weird. | ||
| That is a weird list. | ||
| 53rd anniversary? | ||
| That is the list. | ||
| 53rd. | ||
| You've made it a long time. | ||
| You're 53 years into a marriage. | ||
| Keep in mind, 40th anniversary is Ruby, right? | ||
| So, okay. | ||
| So, 53, what is it? | ||
| So, the decades are precious items. | ||
| Yes, 50th is gold. | ||
| And then the intervening years is, I guess, at random. | ||
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It's a bunch of shit pulled out of a hat, I suppose. | |
| So, 50th is gold. | ||
| 50th is gold. | ||
| 60th is diamond. | ||
| 60th is diamond. | ||
| 40th is ruby. | ||
| What's 53? | ||
| 53. I gotta go with marine creature. | ||
| Plastic. | ||
| Plastic! | ||
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Plastic! | |
| So you're telling me that I'm at 90 years old and I'm getting saran wrap for my anniversary? | ||
| If you're lucky. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| If someone's following the Hallmark recommendations. | ||
| Thanks, Hallmark. | ||
| Anyway, happy anniversary, Christy, and happy birthday. | ||
| Also, Alex would like to remind everyone that we were born dead. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Life is death. | ||
| Or something. | ||
| Or something. | ||
| So, Jordan, as you know... | ||
| The big news that was breaking yesterday is that John McAfee is no more. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Or? | ||
| Is he? | ||
| He was found deceased. | ||
| In a prison cell in Spain. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Or he had just gotten word that he would be extradited to the United States to face some criminal charges. | ||
| Yeah, I think if I were being extradited from Spanish prison to United States prison, I'd be like, nah, I'm out. | ||
| It's hard to say, but it's not if you're Alex. | ||
| Hmm. | ||
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John McAfee did not kill himself in public statements and on his own Twitter. | |
| As early as just last week, he said, I will never commit suicide. | ||
| If I die in prison, I have been murdered by the U.S. government. | ||
| I'm going to listen to a man I knew and respected, not the lying corporate media that before his You respected? | ||
| This thing steaks to high heaven, just like Jeffrey Epstein. | ||
| That's a good cold open to his special report that he put out. | ||
| Yeah, that's not bad. | ||
| That's pretty direct. | ||
| So, even if we take his absolute gospel fact that McAfee said he would never kill himself, he was the definition of an unhinged, drugged-out lunatic who said complete bullshit, essentially for a living. | ||
| I would never imagine that a man so respected as John McAfee would perhaps send out a dumb idea very quickly before he thought it through. | ||
| A couple of my favorite things that he said that were complete nonsense were, you know, like when he said that he had nothing to do with his neighbor in Belize's murder. | ||
| No. | ||
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Or that time that he said that if Bitcoin wasn't trading at $500,000 within three years from July 17th, 2017, he would, quote, eat his own dick on national television. | |
| Did he ever do that? | ||
| Oh, I guess it's too late now. | ||
| Some of his more recent work includes that time that he tried to create a publicity stunt hoax where he pretended to have been arrested for refusing to wear a mask, wearing a lace thong on his face. | ||
| Ah, he's brilliant. | ||
| McAfee and his wife publicly claimed he'd been arrested in Norway, but the pictures that they posted as evidence of this were from the Augsburg Airport, which is in Germany. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| And who could forget the ridiculous runs for the libertarian nomination for the presidential race or the very overt and transparent history of involvement in pump and dump cryptocurrency scams? | ||
| Sure. | ||
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In fact, that was one of the cases that McAvee was facing, along with tax evasion, which is what the U.S. was looking to extradite him back to. | |
| From Spain in order to prosecute him for it. | ||
| Soon before he was found dead, a court ruled that he could be extradited to the United States, and this actually really matters. | ||
| McAfee was 75 years old, and he was facing essentially the rest of his life in prison for his fraud and tax crimes, which he absolutely would be convicted for. | ||
| Since there's video that he released of himself where he confesses, which might be tough to refute. | ||
| Let's hear it. | ||
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I have not paid taxes for eight years. | |
| I've made no secret on it. | ||
| I have not filed returns. | ||
| Every year I tell the IRS I'm not filing return. | ||
| I have no intention of doing so. | ||
| Come and find me. | ||
| Yeah, that's gonna be tough. | ||
| You know what bums me out? | ||
| What bums me out so much is that we know for a fact that if you are rich, you literally can get away with not paying taxes. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like, we just got a New York Times report about how you don't have to pay taxes if you're rich. | ||
| And the only way that you can fuck up if you're rich is if you're just an asshole like this! | ||
| It's the only way! | ||
| There's one way! | ||
| It's... | ||
| Some people are too defiant, I guess. | ||
| I'll never pay taxes. | ||
| Well, then use any one of a million loopholes we've created for rich people to not have to do that. | ||
| It's about the principle of the thing. | ||
| Then fine, you're gonna die in a Spanish prison. | ||
| I don't know what to tell you! | ||
| This is on you! | ||
| It's basically like the ceiling, metaphorically, which is taxes, is coming down. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And there's an open door. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And it's like, do you want to go through that door? | ||
| It's open. | ||
| It's open. | ||
| There's nothing on the other side. | ||
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Yes. | |
| There's no punishments. | ||
| It's not a trap. | ||
| You'll just go out to your business. | ||
| This is a loophole for the whole roof thing. | ||
| The whole thing. | ||
| I will not. | ||
| I will be crushed by this roof. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I can't say with certainty that McAfee died from suicide, but if that does end up being the determination that experts end up making, I'm not going to be surprised. | ||
| I wanted to get a sense of how the media was covering this death, so I sampled some of the largest outlets that were covering the story. | ||
| The headline in CNN was, quote, John McAfee found dead in Spanish prison after his extradition to the United States was approved. | ||
| The article doesn't say that there's a known cause of death at all. | ||
| Quote, McAfee was found dead in his cell in a prison near Barcelona on Wednesday around 1 p.m. | ||
| Eastern, and a medical examiner is on the scene, a spokeswoman for the Superior Court of Catalonia told CNN. | ||
| She said the cause of death is under investigation. | ||
| A statement from the Catalonia Regional Government Justice Department, which manages prisons there, said that prison medical personnel and guards attempted to perform life-saving procedures after finding McAfee, but were unsuccessful. | ||
| The statement said, quote, everything indicates, unquote, Quote, He could have died by suicide. | ||
| Wildly so. | ||
| The New York Times story has a headline, | ||
| quote, The NPR story doesn't even talk about the Catalonia Justice Department combat, instead just reporting, This article even goes out of its way to soften McAfee's image and turn him into some kind of a prankster-type outlaw. | ||
| Quote, McAfee took pride in outwitting authorities. | ||
| He once boasted about eluding police by dressing as a German tourist in a Speedo, and another time as an angry homeless man. | ||
| It's like the NPR version of this is really, like, I mean, these things are true. | ||
| McAfee did do. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| He did enjoy creating this outlaw. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| On the run image of himself. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Outsmarting the police. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And, you know, it's not wrong for NPR to report that, but that seems to be the angle that they're taking more. | ||
| Yeah, I would have included more of his bombastic, psychotic criminal acts, but I suppose if you want to paint him as a modern-day, world-traveling, catch-me-if-you-can type con artist, fine. | ||
| Reuters had this headline, quote... | ||
| Larger-than-life software mogul John McAfee dies in Spain by suicide, lawyer says. | ||
| This is because this story isn't about the actual death. | ||
| It's about McAfee's lawyer making a statement that McAfee died by suicide. | ||
| McAfee's lawyer, Javier Villalba, said the antivirus software pioneer died by hanging as his nine months in prison brought him to despair. | ||
| Even so, even though this article is saying this, the article does not say that this in fact was the cause of death, only that McAfee's lawyer had said that it was. | ||
| None of these outlets are reporting anything definitive, and the information that they have to go on is directly from primary source statements, one from the Catalonia Justice Department and one from McAfee's own lawyer. | ||
| This is responsible reporting of the facts. | ||
| I can't find examples of these folks rushing and jumping the gun to call this a suicide. | ||
| No, I can hear every editor of every major outlet screaming, we're not doing an Epstein this time. | ||
| All right? | ||
| No fuck ups. | ||
| No Epstein conspiracy theories. | ||
| Alex is trying to rush and jump the gun on the conclusion that his death was not a suicide. | ||
| And in order to do that, he needs to make the circumstances around the coverage seem as suspicious as possible. | ||
| Alex is reporting a fiction, which is that the media is immediately and without cause declaring McAfee's death a suicide because they're trying to cover something up, because that kernel of suspicion is necessary for Alex to use this story for his own purposes. | ||
| Alex is an opportunist by nature, and he needs to use everything he can for his largest benefit. | ||
| Just last week, Alex was covering that reporter Christopher Sine's death as a definitive professional execution, and his big prediction was that globalists are going to start killing people like himself and Tucker. | ||
| This situation with McAfee isn't a perfect fit, but it's good enough for Alex to use to claim that he was right, so this absolutely cannot be a suicide in Infowars world. | ||
| Yeah, it's almost like it really doesn't matter how responsible the reporting of mainstream outlets is. | ||
| Alex is just going to make it up on his own regardless. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| There's a real danger to this kind of behavior, and it's in how Alex's rhetoric has been shaped over the course of the past year and even further back, honestly. | ||
| The COVID pandemic has been declared the globalists' big move and something that they can't undo. | ||
| This is the endgame coming into reality, which means that there's no going back. | ||
| Alex has said that over and over in so many different constructions. | ||
| Victory or death, no going back. | ||
| They've crossed the Rubicon over and over and over again in different ways, saying there's no going home again. | ||
| Also, I'm very, very sorry, Hamdi. | ||
| It's on me. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| I know I said I would die on that hill, but listen. | ||
| My bad. | ||
| The rhetoric surrounding how this is the endgame and this is the big move, that's dangerous enough on its own. | ||
| And if Alex is now going to start reporting stuff like people like McAfee dying as the globalists killing off brave patriot leaders, what's the logical leap he's expecting his audience to make? | ||
| He constantly talks about how everyone needs to keep lists of globalists in their town and be ready to take them out when things jump off. | ||
| How is killing off patriot leaders not the most explicit evidence that things have jumped off that you could imagine? | ||
| Whether he means to do this or not is kind of irrelevant. | ||
| It's just part of the message that his audience is going to take from that. | ||
| As far as I can tell, all we can really do is hope that the people who get that message aren't the type of listeners that he has who like to take action. | ||
| Yeah, because the only message you can get is, once they're done with all of these people, they're coming for you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So you might as well stop them now before they come for you. | ||
| Yeah, and talking about Epstein as a murder, a Hillary murder, or whatever, It's a little bit different, even, because that's like, alright, they're trying to cover up their tracks. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Or whatever. | ||
| It's not a direct assault on the patriot folks. | ||
| True, true. | ||
| These people that Alex respects. | ||
| Epstein wasn't a patriot. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's for sure. | ||
| He's not like a McAfee, a libertarian, anti-tax weirdo. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| Who actually would go on Infowars. | ||
| He really would. | ||
| Is this a... | ||
| Is this really going to move the needle, though? | ||
| I feel like McAfee is just going to be a blip and then everybody's going to be like, yeah, I'm fine. | ||
| Alex needed it to justify the previous coverage of his predictions of Patriot leaders being killed. | ||
| So it's very important for that piece. | ||
| True. | ||
| He's got to sell it hard. | ||
| But second, I don't think that at this point Alex is aware that McAfee's Instagram posted a big Q right after he died, which is going to complicate things. | ||
| That's going to make it a little weird. | ||
| That's going to make it a little bit dicey, if you will. | ||
| So, Alex talks a little bit about how he got to know McAfee. | ||
| I got a chance to get to know McAfee back in 2012, right after his escape from Belize into Guatemala, and found to be a larger-than-life type character. | ||
| Then a few years later, he came and visited us several times in Austin, Texas. | ||
| I had a chance to go to dinner with him, had a chance to go out shooting with him, and he was even more larger-than-life in person. | ||
| The guy was definitely... | ||
| An American success story. | ||
| He made millions of dollars with his McAfee antivirus software. | ||
| So, in terms of being an American success story, McAfee was born in England. | ||
| And he once told the BBC, quote, I feel as much British as I do American. | ||
| Well... | ||
| He founded McAfee Associates, but he also sold that in 1994. | ||
| And since then, it's not what I would call a glowing success story. | ||
| You know, more like a cautionary tale. | ||
| Or just perhaps an evil motherfucker wandering around. | ||
| Upsetting weirdo. | ||
| Yeah, that's a good way of putting it. | ||
| I'll take that one. | ||
| So Alex has a comparison, a historical comparison that he makes. | ||
| What a shock. | ||
| It has to do with booze. | ||
| Larger than life. | ||
| I would compare the guy to, like, Captain Morgan. | ||
| You see on the side of the rum bottles, the pirate? | ||
| And he certainly tried to go retire down in Belize and live like a pirate. | ||
| Hmm. | ||
| Captain Henry Morgan was a big ol' pile of shit. | ||
| I don't know if this is the person you'd want to be compared to. | ||
| In his later career, he was employed by Jamaica to keep privateers and pirates away from the area surrounding the island. | ||
| They used to call him the Jamocha from Jamaica. | ||
| Instead... | ||
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You're gonna compliment the two-flagrant two one? | |
| What's Jamocha? | ||
| Jamocha. | ||
| Never mind. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Instead, what he did is he decided to just demand money from pirates to allow them to come on to land. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So he just basically was like, you gotta pay me a little... | ||
| Yeah, he was running a protection racket. | ||
| Basically, yeah. | ||
| He was an outrageous drunk, and he declared martial law twice in a two-year span because of fears of a French invasion, which, it should be pointed out, he was accused of collaborating with the French. | ||
| Well, well. | ||
| After all that, until his death, Morgan owned three slave plantations and spent a whole bunch of his time trying to enslave more black Jamaicans. | ||
| He sucked. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, but, you know, now we venerate him for his booze, I guess. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| I would imagine that Alex knows him as a pirate on a bottle of rum. | ||
| Yeah, I very much doubt the true story of Captain Morgan is high on anybody's list of... | ||
| Although, I would guess that if Alex knew some of these things, he'd be like... | ||
| Even more into him. | ||
| That's pretty cool, man. | ||
| I would like to run my own island fortress and collaborate with the French to overthrow my own fucking home. | ||
| Allegedly. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's unclear. | ||
| Okay, that's fair. | ||
| So, um, Alex... | ||
| I would hate to tarnish his name. | ||
| Alex's big piece of evidence that he has really to go on about McAfee and how this could not possibly... | ||
| This has got to be a murder. | ||
| It's the one time he tweeted out that I would never commit suicide and if I die in a prison it's because the United States government murdered me? | ||
| Yeah, it's tweets. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Now he's dead. | ||
| And all we have is his last communications this year and last year and the year before saying he would never commit suicide. | ||
| Here's another one from October of last year, 2020. | ||
| I am content here. | ||
| I have friends. | ||
| The food is good. | ||
| All is well. | ||
| This is in the Barcelona prison. | ||
| Know that if I hang myself, a la Epstein, it will be no fault of mine. | ||
| So that's a second time he's saying I will not commit suicide and if I die in prison. | ||
| It's a setup. | ||
| That's the first instance that I heard in this report of Alex having... | ||
| I don't know why he's saying this is the second time. | ||
| I think it's probably an editing screw-up. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| So this tweet is probably the strongest evidence that Alex has that McAfee didn't kill himself since he said he wouldn't do that in October. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Particularly if they're in a foreign prison and maybe without the drugs that they generally do. | ||
| It could change your mindset. | ||
| McAfee has had a long history of being arrested in foreign countries or being wanted in foreign countries and getting away and going on the run. | ||
| When he was a person of interest in his neighbor's murder in Belize, he fled the country and he got away with it. | ||
| More notably, in 2019, he was arrested and released when he docked his boat in the Dominican Republic. | ||
| He was on the run from the United States for that old tax thing, and he'd taken to living on his yacht, I guess in international waters like some goddamn Andy Daly guy. | ||
| character. | ||
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Yeah, that sounds fun. | |
| Yeah. | ||
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To kill time on the boat, McAfee posted some pictures of himself with a bunch of big old You know what I think about going on the run? | |
| If I was running from the law, I would try also very hard to not be noticed. | ||
| See, that would be part of my strategy. | ||
| If I had the opportunity to tweet out something, I would be like, maybe people will notice this, and I don't think I should do that. | ||
| So you're saying that when you're on the run, it's kind of like you're in the no-flex zone. | ||
| You know, I might even change my name! | ||
| Or at the very least, get a new Twitter handle. | ||
| I would try and get rid of that blue checkmark. | ||
| Yeah, I think it doesn't serve your interests of being on the run to really publicize a bunch of... | ||
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I'm living out on this boat with these giant guns. | |
| No one will ever catch me! | ||
| This is impressing my Instagram followers, but it might be working across purposes of my trying to be on the run. | ||
| I think that might be why he got caught so many times. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| John McAfee has a history of getting in trouble, and then the consequences just disappear. | ||
| So in October, just after he'd been arrested in Spain, if you're him, there's no way you think you're going to be in jail for the next eight months, let alone end up extradited to the United States after that. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Him posting that tweet... | ||
| I can see that kind of as shitposting. | ||
| I mean, it might as well be him saying, like, I'll probably find a way to escape in a week. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, that's what he's doing. | ||
| Until some actual evidence can be presented to the contrary, I see no reason to think that the simplest explanation here isn't possible. | ||
| Yeah, fuck that! | ||
| that do remain to be answered, but making this a hit team murder I think is going to be a really uphill battle for Alex, especially if the thing he's leading with is a tweet from eight months ago. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I mean, because then you just get back to like, really? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Why would they send a hit team? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What's a hit team? | ||
| You could be, I mean, you know. | ||
| Also. | ||
| Like, for McAfee? | ||
| Also, McAfee has very publicly, on Twitter, in interviews, said that he has a dead man switch. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, like. | ||
| Like, okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| Yeah, that's like, okay, anybody who would want to kill him, Presumably because he has some kind of information that they want covered up. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| They don't want him to go on trial. | ||
| Oh wait, if he ends up getting killed, then his wife is just going to release all of these docs or whatever. | ||
| Yeah, it's nonsense. | ||
| This is all just a spy novel. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And it's sad because ultimately the story is a tragic one, I think. | ||
| I mean, you know, to a certain extent you could just describe it as the... | ||
| Quick destruction of one man's mind. | ||
| I don't know if it was that quick. | ||
| And the consequences... | ||
| I think it's been long. | ||
| When you give them a lot of money. | ||
| Don't think it was quick. | ||
| Well... | ||
| I think this has been going on a while. | ||
| No, I mean, his mind was destroyed fairly quickly. | ||
| Perhaps. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, not only did he tweet once, he tweeted another time, too. | ||
| Here's another one that was put out. | ||
| In November of 2019, so a year before the one in 2020, hitting subtle messages from U.S. officials saying, in effect, we're coming for you, McAfee. | ||
| We're going to kill yourself. | ||
| It's a nice turn of phrase. | ||
| We're going to arc inside you. | ||
| We're going to kill yourself. | ||
| I got a tattoo today just in case I am suicide myself. | ||
| I didn't. | ||
| I was whacked. | ||
| Check out my right arm. | ||
| And there. | ||
| Those tweets are real, but also John McAfee was a delusional paranoid drug addict who promised to eat his own dick on TV as a way to promote cryptocurrency, probably as part of a pump and dump activity. | ||
| This isn't compelling evidence of anything, like these tweets and him getting a tattoo that says dollar sign whacked. | ||
| It's not evidence to me of anything other than McAfee was unwell. | ||
| Yeah, and maybe those weren't turns of phrase so much as typos and poor grammar. | ||
| Swacked? | ||
| Yeah, could have something. | ||
| It might not be so much the well-done authorly talents of McAfee. | ||
| I would love if Alex did also try to go through McAfee's... | ||
| Yeah, just start reading. | ||
| Just start going through his Twitter following. | ||
| Try and explain some of this shit. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Go for it. | ||
| Go for it. | ||
| Let's all start talking about whale fucking. | ||
| That's what needs to be in the public eye. | ||
| So Alex needed to jump in front of this really fast. | ||
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Right. | |
| He needed to get a narrative out. | ||
| Can't let the cement dry on this one. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Within minutes of him being announced dead, we're told it's a suicide. | ||
| Just like we were told with Breitbart, it was a heart attack before his body was even cold and no coroner's examination. | ||
| And the coroner that finally looked at him, then was poisoned by arsenic and died. | ||
| Political assassination is a very real thing in America, a very real thing around the So we already talked about this. | ||
| The outlets that Alex thinks are in on this conspiracy did not report that it was a suicide within minutes. | ||
| There was dry, matter-of-fact coverage of the Catalonian statement, and then eventually Reuters reported the statement that was made by McAfee's lawyer. | ||
| I strongly suspect that Alex's claim that within minutes it was called a suicide is based on random tweets he saw, which is meaningless. | ||
| Most likely. | ||
| We did a whole episode about the day after Andrew Breitbart died, and nothing Alex is saying is real about that case either. | ||
| The media didn't immediately call it a heart attack, and the initial reporting that it was suspected to be a heart attack, the place that came from, and the direct line that everyone was quoting, was a press release put out by Breitbart's own website. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| There's no conspiracy there. | ||
| As for the coroner thing, that was just a conspiracy narrative that's based on nothing. | ||
| This was about the death of Michael Cormier, a person who worked at the coroner's office. | ||
| The problem is that he had nothing to do with Breitbart's autopsy, and the amount of arsenic he had in his system was so large that one of the detectives on the case said it would be impossible to poison someone with that much arsenic without them noticing. | ||
| And people were pretty confused by that case. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex can't prove that Cormier's death was a poisoning, or like an intentional poisoning. | ||
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Sure, sure, sure. | |
| And he can't prove that Breitbart didn't die from a heart attack. | ||
| All he can do is pull at strings, real or imagined, in order to create a sensational storyline that fits his purposes. | ||
| One of the most important aspects of this is the narrative that the media immediately calls these deaths suicides, or in Breitbart's case, a heart attack, because that implies that there's a cover-up. | ||
| And if there's a cover-up, that means that there's something to cover-up. | ||
| And that means... | ||
| Yep. | ||
| In Breitbart's case, Alex was just making up that the media immediately called it a heart attack, and in this case, he's doing the same thing with McAfee's death. | ||
| It's a pattern of behavior that exists not because he's responding to real reporting, but because he's operating from a pre-existing script. | ||
| Regardless of what any media outlet published about McAfee's death, as soon as Alex heard that he was dead, he knew the angle was that the media immediately called it a suicide, and that's suspicious. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The rest of this video is kind of... | ||
| I mean, here. | ||
| Alex is just defending himself. | ||
| This is nonsense. | ||
| Of course he's talking about himself. | ||
| I think the evidence is overwhelming that John McAfee was targeted, he told us why, and was killed in a Spanish prison for the cryptocurrency they believe he had or for other secrets. | ||
| But regardless, his work will live on promoting libertarian ideas and basic freedom. | ||
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What? | |
| For the cryptocurrency? | ||
| They just want his money? | ||
| He doesn't have that much money. | ||
| He might have a bunch of Bitcoin or something. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| I'm sure he has tons of money, but the people we're talking about are, like, multi-billionaires. | ||
| McAfee wasn't a multi-billionaire. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| If the globalists were trying to kill him for his money, that's silly. | ||
| Second, it's not like you can kill someone and then automatically you just get their Bitcoin. | ||
| No, see, you don't understand how blockchain works. | ||
| I don't think Alex understands that. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| It operates under Highlander rules. | ||
| If you cut off somebody's head, the power immediately... | ||
| It's the quickening. | ||
| It's the bickening. | ||
| It's basically like in Assassin's Creed when you have auto-loot. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| When it picks it up for you, it's perfect. | ||
| Yeah, so Alex is saying that the evidence is overwhelming, and I listen to this. | ||
| I see no evidence. | ||
| None. | ||
| I see a couple... | ||
| the explanation for events. | ||
| It's the one that makes the most sense to me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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I mean, if I'm 75, I'm a globe-traveling rich dude who's escaped over and over and over again, and now I'm caught. | |
| You've gotten outrageously lucky. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Ducking and dodging. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Boxing above your weight class forever. | ||
| And what are you going to get? | ||
| You're going to get another 10 years of life in an American prison? | ||
| That's awful. | ||
| You don't want to do that, so fucking offer yourself. | ||
| It makes sense. | ||
| It does. | ||
| As tragic as that is, and as much as I don't want to minimize people who are struggling with suicidal ideation, thinking there's no way out or anything like that. | ||
| It is imaginable to put yourself in McAfee's position and be like, the indignity of the trial, the damage that the trial would do to the things that he has made the most important parts of his life, like cryptocurrency. | ||
| You could see taking the outdoor. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't know. | ||
| I think... | ||
| I'm not making any assumptions. | ||
| I'll let the information guide me to whatever conclusion is there. | ||
| But based on the statement from the Catalonian Justice Department, based on the statement from his lawyer that they are saying this is an apparent suicide, I don't see a reason to doubt that. | ||
| The only reasons to doubt that are... | ||
| Nutty tweets from somebody who tweeted nutty shit all the time. | ||
| I'm not going to take that as like, that's not going to stand up in any kind of court, even the court of my mind. | ||
| Oh, this lying liar said something? | ||
| I guess I must believe it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I just, I got nothing here. | ||
| I think the further and maybe larger problem for me is I just don't care. | ||
| I just don't care that McAfee... | ||
| He's just not important. | ||
| He's like a sideshow. | ||
| It's like a carnival barker. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| I just don't see the power that Alex is thinking that he can wield through this. | ||
| Do you know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah, I get what you're saying, and I'm not super interested in the case itself as much as I am the behavior and what it illustrates. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| I think that the important thing to take away from this is really understanding that Alex put out this report that night because what we talk about, that concrete idea, the idea that when concrete is wet, A leaf that falls on it could leave a permanent impression. | ||
| You got it. | ||
| And the information space is fairly similar. | ||
| And when a story, when the details aren't out, when there isn't solidified information surrounding stuff, you can make an indentation in that concrete. | ||
| Yeah, a lot of people are going to think that Subway has never used tuna in their sandwiches before. | ||
| It's already happened. | ||
| It's too late now. | ||
| And with this, Alex is trying to put into his audience's mind, Before there's any solid information, the media immediately reported that it was a suicide and that's suspicious because McAfee tweeted some crazy shit. | ||
| It's a consistent behavior. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's one of the most kind of worrying and disgusting things is that... | ||
| The conservative media has so insulated their listeners and viewers and the like that they can make claims about any other media because they know you're not going to go check. | ||
| You didn't listen. | ||
| You don't read the papers. | ||
| What person who is reading Infowars articles is then going to be like, and now I'll switch over to the Reuters article? | ||
| That's not happening. | ||
| So you can just make any fucking claim that you want about what the media said, because they'll believe anything you say about what the media said. | ||
| You own the mainstream media if you are in the conservative sphere. | ||
| It's a puppet that you can wield. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And even if you are an Alex Jones listener, Because the false version of this story or the presumptive... | ||
| Version of this story is useful for Alex. | ||
| Yeah, no, it's one of their most powerful weapons controlling the narrative that they're telling you is the narrative they're selling. | ||
| That's just, that's complete control over information. | ||
| You know, it's just ironclad. | ||
| You can't escape from that. | ||
| So it's a real bummer. | ||
| So I think a lot of people probably were reflecting on some things when McAfee, the news broke. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Certainly, I was taking a nap, and I woke up, and I had a text from a friend telling me about this news. | ||
| And my immediate response was, well, I bet Hillary did this. | ||
| Did Hillary do it? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Jerry's still out on that. | ||
| Yeah, I think some people had some fun remembering a time he said that he was going to eat his dick on television. | ||
| That was good times. | ||
| But for Alex, he had a slightly different response. | ||
| A lot of our interviews with him over the years were on YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook. | ||
| Dozens of them got banned and knocked off. | ||
| We never re-uploaded them to... | ||
| Band.video, this reminded us to. | ||
| So we're going to create a John McAvee archive page, and we'll post all the interviews we've done with him and any other interviews that are out there that have been censored. | ||
| And so we're going to put a few of the interviews on the tail end of this right now when we're shooting with him, my first interview with him in 2012, and then we'll endeavor to post some of the other archives in a John McAvee section again at Band.video. | ||
| We're going to juice this thing. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Guys, I just got to let you know, the iron's hot and we better be striking. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jeez. | ||
| No one has told me that... | ||
| Instagram posted a cue. | ||
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Quick! | |
| Exploit this! | ||
| Quick! | ||
| We need a new page! | ||
| We need to get traffic to that page and we need to fill it with ads! | ||
| Somebody call Steve Pachanik and tell him to pretend he was on the yacht. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I'm waiting to find out that Stevie Peas is the one who orchestrated the assassination of McAfee. | ||
| He's been getting out of pocket! | ||
| Now my people in Catalonia. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| All right, man. | ||
| Okay, Steve. | ||
| So, like you already sort of suspected, and I think anyone would, Alex does have to make this about himself. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And, you know, it makes sense. | ||
| He's in a big season right now about... | ||
| How he's under threat. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And the globalists are going to come for him and they're going to kill his family and set him up for it. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| We heard this like a week ago on his show. | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| And so he can't not take this opportunity to re-stress that theme. | ||
| Now, just when in closing, I want to say to listeners, we've been getting a lot of threats, a lot of attacks by the globalists as well. | ||
| They are making their move worldwide. | ||
| They are killing so many reporters, so many journalists. | ||
| So it'll be a thousand percent, a trillion percent. | ||
| I will never commit suicide. | ||
| I will never kill myself. | ||
| And if I'm found dead in a jail cell, or if I'm found dead in a hotel room with a needle in my arm, or anything like that, it is the deep state that did it, and I want them held accountable. | ||
| If anything happens to me... | ||
| Look at Bill Gates, Hillary Clinton, the deep state of the New World Order. | ||
| They are the enemies of America, the enemies of humanity, and they're the ones that have long histories of serious criminal activity and never being held accountable. | ||
| So if anything happens to me, the thunderbolts that strike me like the Godfather says, blame those people. | ||
| So, you know, maybe it is Hillary? | ||
| Could be. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| I would prefer if every time he was like, if they find me with a needle in my arm, if he just got really specific into what kind of drugs and alcohol he's doing. | ||
| If they find me in a hotel surrounded by three empty bottles of Jack Daniels, you know they killed me. | ||
| That is their fault 100%. | ||
| Because I'm a Jameson man. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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Everyone knows it. | |
| Yes, everybody knows it. | ||
| So this is the only actual content and analysis that Alex put out. | ||
| It's as boilerplate as you can get. | ||
| There's more information that's yet to come out, and Alex knows that once that information's available, his job of rewriting this narrative is going to be next to impossible. | ||
| The only time to act is immediately. | ||
| So you get this, a rushed, formulaic, meaningless insistence that McAfee didn't kill himself based on a couple of years. | ||
| It just doesn't matter. | ||
| And this episode, I think, is... | ||
| Is still salient. | ||
| And I think it's important to do because it's important to recognize these tricks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is a key trick that Alex uses. | ||
| And the one thing that I find fucking exciting, and I haven't, you know, we're recording this during the day on Thursday, so we haven't had time to listen to the end of the week shows of his. | ||
| I want to know how he incorporates that Q on Instagram. | ||
| Because that's going to be tough. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Alex has already said that QAnon is a globalist intelligence operation. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It seems like this is going to be something he has to either ignore. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Or maybe it's the globalists taunting people on McAfee's Instagram. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| It could be that they put it on there to claim responsibility for his murder. | ||
| That way they put the Q on there so Alex Could be. | ||
| That could be an option for him. | ||
| It's going to be an interesting needle to see him thread, and I'm excited to... | ||
| I'm not really all that excited, but I think it'll be interesting. | ||
| Maybe, actually, we're just finally figuring out the real spelling of John McAfee. | ||
| It's M-Q-A-F-E-E. | ||
| And he had to change it for the software. | ||
| Maybe it's him admitting that he's Q. It could be. | ||
| I don't think so, but it could be. | ||
| So, that's it for the McAfee coverage. | ||
| Sort of exactly what you'd expect. | ||
| A little underwhelming. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| Yeah, it would be nice if there was one... | ||
| You know, when the cement is this soft... | ||
| And you can really just pull off whatever you want. | ||
| I want one big swing. | ||
| You gotta give us at least one big swing of, like, a perpetrator or a group of people or something other than just, like, the globalists and Bill Gates. | ||
| And they want it as crypto. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| There needs to be a good story behind it that you've got, you know? | ||
| You can't just be like, oh, well, the media's lying. | ||
| You have to give me a better story. | ||
| Especially when you're lying about what the media's saying. | ||
| Yeah, when you're not even doing the bare- You're making up media coverage in order to justify your made-up shit. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| It's just stupid. | ||
| Give me something. | ||
| Give me like, oh, did you know that Brian Stelter was in Spain last month? | ||
| And then we're like, aha, now I've got it. | ||
| Give me something like that. | ||
| Somebody was in Spain around that time is what you've got to give me. | ||
| Yeah, that would be good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But no one was in Spain. | ||
| However, Alex was in New York. | ||
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| So we went down to do this Flagrant 2 podcast. | ||
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And, you know, I don't know. | |
| Flagrant 2 is a giant podcast. | ||
| But at the same time, it's still like Joe Rogan Junior Varsity for Alex. | ||
| He can't get on Rogan, at least not regularly or not enough. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so... | ||
| You know, he can get on Kill Tony. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| That's not going to move the needle enough. | ||
| No, no, it won't. | ||
| So, you know, you get this publicity tour. | ||
| He goes all the way to New York, presumably, either to do this podcast or to do this podcast and... | ||
| And something else. | ||
| Maybe have a deposition or something. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| But, yeah, I just... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's really hard for me to cover these sorts of appearances that Alex does because it's like... | ||
| Alright, I get that this is an attempt at a joke. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I don't think it's funny. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I think the subject matter sucks. | ||
| It's probably somewhere on the bigoted spectrum. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And whatever. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You know, like, I oppose this joke. | ||
| I oppose the message that's underlying this joke. | ||
| But... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Where is the line of free speech? | ||
| It's objectionable speech to me, but YouTube should be able to decide whether they want it on the platform or not. | ||
| But in terms of our conversation, it becomes a total mess when you're trying to criticize failed or iffy attempts at humor. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's what's... | ||
| We don't cover shows that are just bros talking all too often. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, like, bros riffing doesn't sound interesting or really that, like, newsworthy, I suppose. | ||
| The exception is, like, when Alex is on Rogan, and that's just kind of, like, because it's a vent. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Level of... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And because Alex really goes for it. | ||
| He does. | ||
| And so, like, I was listening to this, and I was like, well, okay, we do cover Alex when he's on Rogan, and so, like, maybe this is something that we should, you know, like, he is a guest on this show. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, if he makes, if he's got something to say, then I want to hear it. | ||
| If he doesn't have anything to say, then... | ||
| He doesn't have much to say. | ||
| I want to play, like, the beginning. | ||
| This is how it starts. | ||
| Alex, spoiler alert, comes out wearing tinfoil around his arms like bracers. | ||
| That is not funny! | ||
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What's up, everybody? | |
| Welcome to Flagrant 2. I am incredibly excited. | ||
| We have a major, major guest. | ||
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Huge guest. | |
| Huge guest. | ||
| Probably one of the biggest actresses on the planet. | ||
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Icon. | |
| A real icon. | ||
| We figured because it is Women's Empowerment Month, I believe it's Women's Empowerment Month, we bring on maybe the most powerful woman in the galaxy. | ||
| Some might say I'm incredibly excited. | ||
| Everybody right now give it up. | ||
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I wonder who it is. | |
| For Gal Gadot, everybody. | ||
| Wonder Woman is here on Flagrant 2! | ||
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We have Wonder Woman! | |
| Yeah! | ||
| So Alex comes out with a bunch of tinfoil on him, and it just turns into a protracted, transphobic joke. | ||
| It's a load of nonsense, but it's... | ||
| I get this... | ||
| Imagine right before they started recording. | ||
| Alex is like, here's what I'm gonna do. | ||
| I'm gonna put on a wig and some tinfoil. | ||
| I'm gonna pretend to be Wonder Woman. | ||
| That's an idea he had. | ||
| And then these guys were like, that'll be great. | ||
| We gotta do that. | ||
| That'll be great. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| We're gonna sell it. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| And you know, here's Alex taking his shirt off. | ||
| It's disconcerting. | ||
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You can take that shirt off if you want, Alex. | |
| Yo, just go, dog. | ||
| You can go for it if you want. | ||
| I see you sweating. | ||
| Just go. | ||
| Just go. | ||
| Take it off! | ||
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Take it off! | |
| You guys want to see this woman's beautiful body? | ||
|
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Yeah! | |
| Show them fucking heavies! | ||
| Heavies! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Let's go, brother. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| What are you doing, dude? | ||
| Ha ha ha ha ha ha! | ||
| So it's moments like this that just really highlight to me how much of a duplicitous game everyone is playing. | ||
| Alex is there to try to launder his extremist beliefs to a gullible audience, and he's also trying to bring more customers into his revenue stream. | ||
| Simultaneously, these dudes know that if you get Alex to do sensational things, it leads to increased attention and traffic. | ||
| If you get him to run around without his shirt on, you might end up going... | ||
| Viral on Twitter. | ||
| That could be a meme. | ||
| That could turn into something that is a long-lasting reaction gif meme or whatever. | ||
| That's better advertising than you could ever pay for. | ||
| Totally. | ||
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Totally. | |
| So there's this whole game that both of them are playing that is promotional in nature. | ||
| And it's just like, okay, I guess you're trading the possibility of having these moments for willingly or unknowingly... | ||
| Platforming a monster. | ||
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| I just can't believe that people would want to listen to the same social dynamic that one would see at a fucking elementary school. | ||
| Alex might as well be eating worms. | ||
| A drunk elementary school. | ||
| Yeah, just like, eat the worms! | ||
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Eat the worms! | |
| Eat the worms! | ||
| It's the same fucking thing. | ||
| Alex is there to be humiliated for them to exploit. | ||
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And then they laugh at him, and he acts... | |
| I mean, it's so degrading. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| It's degraded. | ||
| Well, you're going to eat even more degraded. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Because Alex is about to talk about his dick. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
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Bro, you got a nice little bowl, Joe. | |
| Dude, you got a nice pecker, bro. | ||
| I have the largest micropenis in North America. | ||
| Now, women get blown away by it. | ||
| It looks like a grub worm with ear muscles, but you've seen... | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| You've seen like... | ||
| Seriously, like those little balloons you buy in the store that get really big? | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| That's me. | ||
| So you're a grower? | ||
| Man, women go, they go, this is a trick dick. | ||
| And then like, this hurts. | ||
| I got a trick dick. | ||
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So it starts out small and then surprises them later on. | |
| It's like a turtle head. | ||
| It goes in. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It actually goes in. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So then it comes out. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| This is not good riffing, and it's unbecoming of someone in Alex's position to act like this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just, imagine this juxtaposed with him fucking preying on air. | ||
| I... | ||
| I got a trick, dick. | ||
| I mean, it's so much, like, I immediately get flashbacks to, like, early on doing stand-up, working with a... | ||
| Established, clean comic headliner, and it's me and a young female comic. | ||
| She and I are at about the same level of talent, and then we're at the bar afterwards, and he starts telling creepy-ass fucking jokes right to her face that is so fucked up and inappropriate, and you're like, this is not okay. | ||
| That is what I'm hearing Alex do right now, that creepy ass shit where he presents himself one place as being a pious, God-fearing man, and then when there's a social situation where he can fucking take advantage of his goddamn position in the hierarchy to fuck around. | ||
| I think that early on in my time doing stand-up, I kind of was susceptible to that. | ||
| And I certainly... | ||
| I would be comfortable with now. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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You know, like, there's sort of an extraversion of, like, let it all out there, man. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I'm a truth teller. | ||
| And I think that that was partially because of youth idiocy and not taking myself seriously enough to know that this wasn't appropriate. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Alex is 47 years old. | ||
| He's been doing this as a... | ||
| He's been an investigative truth-teller reporter for 27 years. | ||
| He thinks he's fighting the literal devil. | ||
| He thinks that governments want to kill him. | ||
| And he's still like... | ||
| Act like I did when I was an early doing comedy guy. | ||
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You know what? | |
| When you're so stressed out, you need an outlet, and that outlet is telling two weird bros while they mock you to your face that you've got a weird penis. | ||
| That makes perfect sense. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| I mean, it should... | ||
| I guess if people want to look at him as... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| The thing that I kept... | ||
| Flashing to was these people like these hosts of Flagrant and I would say even Rogan probably is this way. | ||
| Or Tony Hinchcliffe. | ||
| they have an image of Alex as this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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The drunk guy who talks about his dick or yells about aliens or tells them some weird subsection they've never heard of and is like, I'm going to blow your mind. | |
| I'm going to blow your mind. | ||
| Let me tell you. | ||
| I talked to the weather weapon guy. | ||
| That's the image that they have of him. | ||
| And that's what they think his show is. | ||
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They haven't listened to his actual show. | |
| Probably not, no. | ||
| They don't know, and when Alex comes on these types of shows, he's not crying about fighting the devil. | ||
| He's not, like, yelling all his racist shit. | ||
| He's not doing what he does on his show. | ||
| If these people actually listened to Alex's show, they would either be bored, out of their mind. | ||
| Or they'd be like, wait a second, this is what Alex does? | ||
| I'm not sure I want to be associated with this. | ||
| You know, I don't know. | ||
| Alex's years-long Trojan horse quest to get people to give their life to Jesus. | ||
| Do you think that people like these hosts would be like, oh, I want to be a part of this, bringing people to God? | ||
| I mean, here's what, I could see this. | ||
| I could see them all in their mind because they are all these. | ||
| I mean, what? | ||
| The names of the people that we're dealing with are all traffickers in toxic masculinity by trade, so I could definitely see them being like, oh, you know, we just play it up on our show, Alex just plays it up on his show, and in real life he's this guy, so it's okay for us to be cool with him, despite not realizing all of the fucking destruction that his show does. | ||
| Just because he's a character on the show means it's okay for them to be like, eh, you know what, we'll have... | ||
| See, that's great. | ||
| And I applaud that, except the reverse. | ||
| Yeah, I was gonna say, please do not applaud that. | ||
| No, I think it's worse. | ||
| That's fucked up. | ||
| Yeah, if someone were to make that argument, I think that... | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| I'm saying these people are worse than you give them credit for. | ||
| Yes, because if the argument is that it's a character and this is the real Alex that we're hanging out with bro and down with about our dicks, like, okay. | ||
| Then that person that you're bawling down with is a psychopath. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And they are too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, you could absolutely see them saying something like, you know, the crisis actor joke is funny because it's not Alex's fault. | ||
| It's people taking Alex too seriously who went too far with all that Sandy Hook stuff. | ||
| Alex is an entertainer, man. | ||
| If people take it too seriously, it's not Alex's fault. | ||
| Just like when people take our stuff too seriously and it's like, no, we're making a joke. | ||
| Sure, I made a quote-unquote joke about raping a woman, but that was a joke. | ||
| I don't know why people are taking it too fucking seriously. | ||
| It's that type of shit. | ||
| They even do, you know... | ||
| touch on that a little bit everybody takes me out of context yeah yeah i i i find that to be a pretty boring argument because i've listened to hundreds and hundreds of hours of alex's show i think i got a pretty good sense of what's an actual position and what's him fucking around yeah and i don't take things that he's fucking around about all that seriously yeah um I think that argument is thin. | ||
| No, I would say it's a self-serving and delusional argument that helps you go to sleep at night. | ||
| Because what you're actually doing is exposing people to a fucking monster. | ||
| Yeah, and you're helping make it easier for people to accept the bad arguments and the awful things that Alex does believe by presenting him in a way that's... | ||
| That's positive, that's sociable, that is like, hey, we're having fun! | ||
| And allowing him to perpetuate things that just... | ||
| Explicitly aren't true. | ||
| It's like if Renfield had a fucking podcast. | ||
| Like, he's putting Dracula on, man! | ||
| He's gonna push Dracula on you! | ||
| Well, I mean, if you want to use Alex's own language. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I mean, but there's just things that, like, you allow him to perpetuate that aren't true. | ||
| So they're talking about Colbert and, like, why Colbert isn't funny anymore. | ||
| And here's what Alex says. | ||
| They admit, like, Charles Schumer, the senator of New York, calls him and says what should be in his bits? | ||
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No. | |
| That's in the news. | ||
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No. | |
| Same thing with some funnier late-night guys. | ||
| He used to be really funny. | ||
| You wonder, why aren't they funny now? | ||
| They admit in the news that they get calls from Democrat spokespersons, and Senator Schumer goes, I'd like you to talk to this guy. | ||
| He's my cousin. | ||
| He's a funny guy. | ||
| And those guys know that corporately, their job and their contract is pursuant to a weird New York senator. | ||
| Can you imagine, like, a senator calls up, oh, Andrew, I'd kind of like to see this in your piece. | ||
| You say, fuck you, man. | ||
| Can you imagine, like, I'm out here, like, okay, Senator Schumer says I'm supposed to say this now. | ||
| Here's Schumer's joke so this old man can sit there and watch and go, I control that young man. | ||
| This is entirely about Jimmy Kimmel discussing on air how he'd spoken with Chuck Schumer about the Affordable Care Act, which you might recall was a super important thing to Jimmy because his son lives with a congenital heart defect. | ||
| So he was discussing on air this piece that he did about how the coverage of pre-existing conditions really matters in a very concrete way. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Kimmel was taking issue with the Graham-Cassidy bill, which sought to get rid of some of the provisions of the ACA, and in preparation, he got some assistance from Chuck Schumer's office about the bill's details. | ||
| Alex has taken that kernel from 2017 and embellished it now to the point where he's telling these dudes that Schumer is basically the booker and head writer for all late-night shows. | ||
| This isn't joking around, and it's not even in the territory of embellishment for effect. | ||
| This is just a lie that Alex is specifically deploying to convince these people's audience that all non-crazy entertainment is just secret globalists And they're reacting to it with, like... | ||
| No way. | ||
| That's almost unbelievable. | ||
| And you're like, why wouldn't you stop for one second and go... | ||
| That is unbelievable. | ||
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| No. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I mean, Alex even gave you an example for you to be like, I know people in comedy. | ||
| Of course, they too would say, fuck you, Chuck Schumer. | ||
| You're not funny. | ||
| And the hosts of this show, the two dudes who are the main hosts of it, one of them used to be on MTV's Guy Code, and the other one was on Wild and Out. | ||
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Oh, boy. | |
| They're comedians, people who have worked. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They have done stuff. | ||
| You know people in the industry. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| All of whom would do that, regardless of whatever political affiliation you have, comedians are very, very aggressive about you shutting the fuck up. | ||
| And they probably have some exposure to some of the things that Alex is being completely duplicitous about. | ||
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Totally. | |
| And it's just not worth it to have an actual conversation about it, I don't think. | ||
| If you've been on Guy Code or Wild N' Out or that kind of stuff, there's no way you haven't interacted with people who literally work. | ||
| At SNL or Colbert or the like. | ||
| Like, that's... | ||
| They're there. | ||
| They're everywhere. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that's bananas. | ||
| And that means you know Chuck Schumer. | ||
| Yeah, well, that means they're taking orders from Chuck Schumer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Great. | |
| So I found largely listening to this to be, like I have already said, intolerable. | ||
| I found it so boring. | ||
| Just... | ||
| That's the kind of noise. | ||
| Just put that for two and a half hours. | ||
| Look at us being bros! | ||
| Yeah, so I turned it off after about an hour. | ||
| But there was one really important thing that came up a couple times in the first hour. | ||
| And this is Alex trying to formulate a way to justify some of his bigotries. | ||
| And I found this really, really interesting. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Because all the renaissance is, it's not a utopia. | ||
| It's saying all the old fucking weird shit, we throw it out. | ||
| All the old weird shit's like, oh, rainbow flags. | ||
| Oh, look, black people. | ||
| It's all exploiting gay people and black people. | ||
| There's nothing to do with rainbow flags and gay people. | ||
| They're just literally sitting there putting that out. | ||
| We need a total renaissance to overthrow the entire thing and empower everybody. | ||
| You're not saying let's get rid of rainbow flags and black people. | ||
| That's what it sounded like. | ||
| You're saying they're mascotting the rainbow flags and the black people. | ||
| No, get rid of the front. | ||
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Get rid of the front. | |
| I looked in here and I said, I really like black people. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Do what I say. | ||
| I like black people. | ||
| You're a fucking opportunist. | ||
| I see what you're saying. | ||
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I see what you're saying. | |
| But this is interesting. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I'm saying don't get rid of rainbow flags in black people. | ||
| No, get rid of the people that are using rainbow flags in black people. | ||
| I'm just saying stop listening to them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like when some defense contractor has a rainbow flag, you're like, dude, that's not, you know. | ||
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You're killing people, but you're using this rainbow flag. | |
| That's protection. | ||
| You think you have good intentions and you don't. | ||
| It's super opportunistic. | ||
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It's predatory. | |
| I've listened to countless hours of Alex's show, and I honestly don't think that that's an idea that I've ever heard him articulate like that. | ||
| I really haven't either. | ||
| I think it's intentional. | ||
| This is a very attractive point, and honestly, I don't actually disagree that much with how he's framing it. | ||
| No, I think he's, well, I mean, you see Nancy Pelosi and the like in a fucking, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I see, you know, businesses do pay lip service to communities in meaningless ways in order to garner goodwill, while their actions might not be as supportive as those words may imply. | ||
| Yeah, rainbow flags and donations to Trump do not go together, and yet somehow... | ||
| I think that happens a lot, and it's... | ||
| We treat corporations like people, and all of a sudden they have a brand and a persona to cultivate, and part of that is trite social media gestures, and I think a lot of people see through that. | ||
| By framing Alex's opposition to things like black people and rainbow flags this way, Alex is trying to hook the audience by appealing to something that they could easily believe. | ||
| This could possibly be the belief that Alex has that everyone says is racist. | ||
| You know all those times Alex gets called a racist? | ||
| It's gotta be because people are misrepresenting his stance against corporate use of Black Lives Matter and rainbow flags. | ||
| That's gotta be it. | ||
| He's not actually a racist. | ||
| That's what Alex wants the audience to think. | ||
| Because the reality is that Alex is a gigantic racist. | ||
| And if the audience knows that going in, they won't ever make it to the InfoWars store. | ||
| Trust me. | ||
| The difference in how Alex responds to a murder when the victim is black or when the victim is white has nothing to do with corporate signaling. | ||
| No. | ||
| His behavior is explicitly racist. | ||
| It's homophobic. | ||
| It's transphobic. | ||
| He is those things. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And he's being allowed to launder this in a way that's appealing to not only the hosts, but the audience. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And gives them a way to be like, oh yeah, everyone says Alex is racist. | ||
| It's just he doesn't like... | ||
| He doesn't like this corporate thing where you put a rainbow flag up during Pride Month when you're a bigot. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or you're doing horrible things. | ||
| It's a valid criticism that's trying to be used as a shield for... | ||
| Right, but I mean, that's the feedback loop. | ||
| That's the feedback loop of conspiracy theorists and shitty politicians, is that when the system is so corrupt and so transparent bullshit, it is easy for you to take a pot shot like this and get people towards more conspiratory-laden bullshit. | ||
| Because obviously, Nancy Pelosi is fucking lying to you. | ||
| That's not hard to jump to, you know? | ||
| It's a miniature version of how Alex's... | ||
| Opposition to the Iraq War can trick you into thinking that he is an ally. | ||
| Or ideologically on the same page. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then corrupt and shallow assholes use that conspiracy theory to get elected when they corrupt the government and make it less functional than it was before. | ||
| Then your conspiracy theories get even stronger because the government is so obviously corrupt and it creates that feedback loop of destruction. | ||
| If it were possible... | ||
| I mean, I've said this so many times, but the greatest weapon... | ||
| It's just the governing effectively and they cannot do that. | ||
| They simply cannot. | ||
| True. | ||
| I mean, and that's why we get into these situations. | ||
| I think that even if the Democrats wanted to or had a unified will to govern well, I don't think it's possible. | ||
| No, that's probably true. | ||
| It's probably too late now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's probably way too late now. | ||
| Everyone can just do their best. | ||
| Man, they really had a shot. | ||
| They really had a shot 2008 to 2010. | ||
| If they had just got their shit together, man, we would have avoided so much. | ||
| Ah, we would have had a right-wing terrorism problem. | ||
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Yeah, that's true. | |
| Much more extreme and much faster. | ||
| Yeah, it wasn't going to stop. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I just, I grow weary of these laundering attempts of Alex. | ||
| And I just, I don't think people don't have the right to do it. | ||
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Sure. | |
| I don't think people are, you know, should be banned. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, it's the platform's choice. | ||
| They can do whatever the fuck they want. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I don't think they should be arrested or anything for this, but I wish people would consider a little bit more what they're doing. | ||
| I wish that, like... | ||
| If these guys want to have Alex Jones on their show, I would like them to ask about the devil. | ||
| I would like them to ask about valid criticisms about him, as opposed to allowing him to present his very, very clear racism as opposition to corporate signaling. | ||
| I would like it if they allow... | ||
| This is a rare opportunity, where you have Alex there, and you could ask him, Digging questions. | ||
| And instead, just allow him to poach your audience. | ||
| I mean, there's really only... | ||
| At this point, the bar is so low. | ||
| So there's only two things that happen if you have Alex Jones on. | ||
| It's obviously you're right. | ||
| You have either the option to fucking eviscerate him, and then you will not be on his level. | ||
| You will be over the bar. | ||
| Or you do this, in which case you are under the bar right next to Alex. | ||
| I have no sympathy for people. | ||
| You've turned Flagrant 2 into Infowars, in my mind. | ||
| More or less. | ||
| The end. | ||
| Like, I have no interest in you as people. | ||
| You should fucking stop. | ||
| And if you don't get that, and if you don't make a change towards that, then fuck off forever. | ||
| You're just Infowars. | ||
| Yeah, I think we have probably a very unique... | ||
| And I don't mean unique in necessarily an overly positive way, but a perspective that other people don't have because we focus so much on Alex Jones. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And that is that I think that we have enough of an awareness of what this dude does and what he's up to, his history, the way he lies, the positions that he actually has, that people who would choose to associate with him, it's your right to. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But we know... | ||
| That you are him. | ||
| Yeah, I don't give a fuck about Joe Rogan or Tim Dillon or these fucks or any of these people. | ||
| You are next to Alex Jones forever. | ||
| If you're at a rally surrounded by Nazis, I get maybe you feel like you're not, but if you stay at that rally, guess who's a Nazi now? | ||
| You have Alex on a second time. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| I mean, I guess it probably boosts numbers. | ||
| It probably helps with traffic. | ||
| And these guys have a bunch of assholes. | ||
| Hope their sponsors don't dislike Alex being on. | ||
| It's okay if you destroy the world if your listeners go up. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| It's the trade-off. | ||
| I just don't understand being this irresponsible with presentation. | ||
| That's really what it comes down to. | ||
| It really comes down to a part of you just breaks down and you just go, do you guys just not care? | ||
| Like, is that really it? | ||
| You just don't give a shit? | ||
| I mean, it feels like that's gotta be the most simple explanation. | ||
| Yeah, you don't care about your show, you don't care about the people who listen, and you don't care about what happens because of it. | ||
| That's what you're telling me when you have Alex Jones on. | ||
| Right, I mean, like, because here we have a completely dissonant presentation. | ||
| A week ago on his show... | ||
| Alex is talking about how we're all dead. | ||
| Yes, he was. | ||
| Yes, he was. | ||
| He's talking about how the globalists are going to kill everybody. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, you know, like, I gotta stand and fight against these. | ||
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I promise you, I will take everything in my ability. | |
| Fake crying and shit. | ||
| And within the week, he's in New York wearing a wig. | ||
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Hey, my penis is like a turtle. | |
| Great, great. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| What are any of us doing? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Brutal. | ||
| And then Alex comes back and tries to present McAfee's death as a murder, which can only serve to incite his audience. | ||
| Yeah, just unreal. | ||
| This is just nonsensical. | ||
| That's just so fucked up. | ||
| It's so fucked up how easy it is to jangle the keys of like, hey, I'm a fucking performer in front of these idiots. | ||
| And then they'll just be like, hey, let's talk about dicks for two hours. | ||
| Fuck off. | ||
| And again, maybe... | ||
| I watched most of the first one, and it was not in-depth or interesting. | ||
| I watched the first hour of this one before I turned it off, and the only thing I found interesting, really, was this presentation of Alex's racism as being opposed to corporate artifice. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I guess I could have listened to the rest of it. | ||
| Meh. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, again, if it weren't so reasonable to assume that they are corrupt lying pieces of shit, I think it would be harder to launder your racism behind. | ||
| See? | ||
| Look at those corrupt lying pieces of shit. | ||
| I would like it if this was actually a long game, which it's not. | ||
| But they were trying to lull Alex into a false sense of security. | ||
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Yeah, you missed the last half hour where they just fucking nailed him. | |
| Nailed him to a wall! | ||
| I doubt it. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| I'm somewhat excited to see how Alex tries to incorporate that cue from John McAfee's Instagram. | ||
| So we'll check in on that on Monday, I believe. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But, yeah. | ||
| Until then, Jordan, we have a website. | ||
| We do have a website. | ||
| It's knowledgefight.com. | ||
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Yep. | |
| We're also on Twitter. | ||
| We are on Twitter. | ||
| It's at knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Go to bed, Jordan. | ||
| Yep, we're also on Facebook. | ||
| We are on Facebook and it's out of the show! | ||
| If you could, please find a local charity or bail fund in your area to help out people do God's work. | ||
| Yep, we'll be back. | ||
| But until then, I'm Neo, I'm Leo, I'm DZXClark, I'm Daryl Rundis. | ||
| And now here comes the sex robots. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |
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